Transcript 31 March 2011 (early)

10:30:15 am lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been?
10:30:28 am urbie: #lrnchat starts in a minute — outgoing tweets increasing in number like nobody’s business (papa used to say that a lot)..
10:30:31 am StephanieDaul: #lrnchat starts in 5 min. This week’s topic is Learning Analytics
10:30:47 am MimiBarbara: #lrnchat starting now. This week’s topic is Learning Analytics! #lrnchat
10:30:58 am alc47: #lrnchat now for 90 mins – lots and lots of Tweets #lrnchat
10:31:23 am juandoming: RT @MoodleMcKean: Google +1 Adds Recommendations to Search Results : Free Technology for Teachers http://bit.ly/fOE108 #edtech #elearning #tlchat #lrnchat
10:31:35 am lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1. Introduce yourself. Location? Focus? Fave topics? What brings you here tonight?
10:31:53 am megbertapelle: @lrnchat gd thx! 🙂 crazy busy, but finishing up a new elearning – incorporating more practice a la @CatMoore, hope 4 gd feedback #lrnchat
10:32:07 am megbertapelle: RT @lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1. Introduce yourself. Location? Focus? Fave topics? What brings you here tonight?
10:32:08 am RyanJSegrist: Learning Analytics sounds like numbers! I like numbers! 🙂 #lrnchat
10:32:17 am RyanJSegrist: RT @lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1. Introduce yourself. Location? Focus? Fave topics? What brings you here tonight?
10:32:20 am MandyRG: I was energised after webinar delivery at 12 today for #lsgwebinar but now I’m feeling knackered. Energised agn now for #lrnchat
10:32:22 am rachelsparrow: trying out #lrnchat for the first time!
10:32:28 am cahlan: #lrnchat Cahlan Sharp. Orem, UT. Focus is Learning Analytics product development.
10:32:30 am lrnchat: Rule2. [try to] stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 15 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
10:32:38 am megbertapelle: @rachelsparrow welcome! #lrnchat
10:32:46 am KristiBroom: RT @MimiBarbara: #lrnchat starting now. This weeks topic is Learning Analytics! #Lrnchat
10:32:50 am derekwwade: Hello to my followers – my Twitter output will increase a bit for the next half hour — join me on #lrnchat
10:32:55 am StephanieDaul: RT @alc47: #lrnchat now for 90 mins – lots and lots of Tweets #lrnchat
10:33:08 am megbertapelle: RT @lrnchat: Rule2. [try to] stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 15 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
10:33:22 am JaneBozarth: Thanks to @weisblatt for this week’s questions #lrnchat
10:33:22 am billcush: Have a minor but annoying cold and cough today! But here with bells on. RT @lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been?
10:33:25 am lrnchat: Rule3. When writing, complete thoughts help followers outside chat learn from you. #lrnchat
10:33:25 am c4lpt: RT @lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1. Introduce yourself. Location? Focus? Fave topics? What brings you here tonight?
10:33:28 am StephanieDaul: @rachelsparrow Welcome, hope you enjoy the discussion #lrnchat
10:33:39 am megbertapelle: RT @lrnchat: Rule3. When writing, complete thoughts help followers outside chat learn from you. #lrnchat
10:33:42 am rachelsparrow: #lrnchat – hi I’m Rachel, based in Bristol, I work predicting the future trends of l&d and future proofing the company. Love social media
10:33:42 am MandyRG: #lrnchat Mandy Randall-Gavin from Brighton UK here. Learning & Development Consultant STILL waiting for the next amazing job opportunity
10:33:49 am adfunkster: I’m participating in #lrnchat in 5min. Ignore my seemingly random messages – or come and participate too! 🙂
10:33:55 am davidakoontz: hi, first timer at learn chat – @derekwwade is guiding me…; Chicago, Agile SW Coach #lrnchat
10:34:04 am urbie: todays #lrnchat topic: something called learning analytics
10:34:05 am LnDDave: Jumping into #lrnchat for the next 90 minutes. Please excuse the excess tweets, and feel free to join us! #lrnchat
10:34:07 am c4lpt: @rachelsparrow Hi Rachel! Enjoy! #lrnchat
10:34:07 am StephanieDaul: @InfoAtOCP Welcome to #lrnchat
10:34:20 am MimiBarbara: Q0) Barbara Smith, Atlanta, GA. Focus is instructional design strategy and innovation. #lrnchat
10:34:24 am lrnchat: Rule4. Remember to include #lrnchat in all posts. http://tweetchat.com http://tweetgrid.com & http://twubs.com work well.
10:34:31 am katridgely: #Lrnchat Kat Ridgely, Senior Learning Tech Spec., VA, just looking to share some good info! Second lrnchat for me.
10:34:36 am JaneBozarth: Raleigh-Durham. Interested in ID, training, and moving past both. Write for Learning Solutions and now editing eLearn magazine. #lrnchat
10:34:49 am megbertapelle: @davidakoontz welcome to #lrnchat! 🙂
10:34:56 am urbie: #lrnchat intro: urbie delgado, instructional designer, interested in (re)humanizing distance ed, washington, dc, former phd stoodent
10:35:00 am megbertapelle: RT @lrnchat: Rule4. Remember to include #lrnchat in all posts. http://tweetchat.com http://tweetgrid.com & http://twubs.com work well.
10:35:04 am wls1961: Wanda Simpson, Ed Tech Coordinator, Morgantown, WV #lrnchat
10:35:16 am dawnjmahoney: RT @LnDDave: Jumping into #lrnchat for the next 90 minutes. Please excuse the excess tweets, and feel free to join us! #lrnchat
10:35:20 am catherine_delia: Will be listening in on #lrnchat for next hour or so. Potentially elevated level of tweeting. Topic: Learning Analytics.
10:35:20 am alc47: @rachelsparrow Welcome – have fun! #lrnchat
10:35:28 am c4lpt: Jane Hart, SoBiz Consultant in the UK and part of the Internet Time Alliance #inttime #lrnchat
10:35:36 am mrch0mp3rs: How we doin’ #lrnchat?
10:35:37 am lrnchat: Rule5. Periodically RT questions so those outside #lrnchat know what you’re talking about & so they can chime in too.
10:35:38 am RyanJSegrist: Q0) Ryan Segrist in DC, learning all the time. I kicked Articulate’s butt this week!!! #lrnchat
10:35:47 am megbertapelle: RT @lrnchat: Rule5. Periodically RT questions so those outside #lrnchat know what you’re talking about & so they can chime in too.
10:35:47 am StephanieDaul: Stephanie Daul, Learning Development Consultant, Chicago, IL #lrnchat
10:35:48 am atomic_jenna: Jenna Papakalos, Online Marketing Manager, Orlando, FL Atomic Training #lrnchat
10:35:58 am kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, Learning Consultant, Finishing project in Denver then back to North Texas #lrnchat
10:36:09 am dbolen: Don Bolen, Atlanta, PM, learning design and strategist #lrnchat
10:36:16 am roquegus: Gus Roque, Instructional Designer @ FIU Online #lrnchat
10:36:16 am npmaven: Debra Beck, Wyoming. Adult educator/online instructor (grad-level)/nonprofit board development wonk. #lrnchat
10:36:22 am billcush: RT @lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1. Introduce yourself. Location? Focus? Fave topics? What brings you here tonight?
10:36:22 am atomic_jenna: @mrch0mp3rs Doing great! You? #lrnchat
10:36:26 am Tina_Barr: Joining in on #lrnchat please excuse the heavy tweeting!
10:36:28 am KatieStroudPro: Hello everyone. Katie Stroud here. Just started out on my own as a training consultant. #lrnchat
10:36:28 am lrnchat: Rule6. On #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm & irony welcome though. Really. Seriously. #bringiton
10:36:30 am edCetraTraining: Nancy Safar, edCetra Training, introducing Jeffrey our PM to lrnchat #lrnchat
10:36:31 am olliegardener: Hi everyone. Ollie here. Co-founder of NoddleSoft. Tweeting from my sunny veranda in Croatia 🙂 #lrnchat
10:36:34 am megbertapelle: RT @lrnchat: Rule6. On #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm & irony welcome though. Really. Seriously. #bringiton
10:36:36 am maritzavdh: Maritza van den Heuvel, Product Manager at Kaplan Learning Technologies. Cape Town, South Africa. #lrnchat
10:36:37 am derekwwade: Derek W. Wade, Chicago IL – helping people learn how to work better by playing better, and play better by working better. #lrnchat
10:36:38 am chettbradley: #lrnchat hello everyone, Chett from Toronto here. PD go-to for health prof. assn. Liking learning models, uxd, infographic design
10:36:58 am KristiBroom: Hi Everyone! Kristi Broom, Minneapolis, MN, learning technology, innovation, social stuff #Lrnchat
10:37:00 am olliegardener: @alc47 evening Nic 🙂 #lrnchat
10:37:06 am JaneBozarth: @RyanJSegrist Hi Ryan! How’ve you been? #lrnchat
10:37:09 am derekwwade: Bringing @davidakoontz into the mix, please welcome 😉 #lrnchat
10:37:15 am RyanJSegrist: @KristiBroom Hi Kristi! #Lrnchat
10:37:16 am c4lpt: Don’t forget the Official Lrnchat Drinking Game™ http://lrnchatdrinkinggame.wikispaces.com/ (drinks at the ready!) #lrnchat
10:37:19 am dawnjmahoney: #lrnchat Dawn Mahoney CPLP -T&D Mgr, ID, Facilitator–passionate learner near Madison WI Welcome all–glad to c u all today!
10:37:19 am lrnchat: Rule7. A few mins before the end of #lrnchat, reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too.
10:37:25 am alc47: Nic Laycock Learning consultant helping organisations through the SoMe transition #lrnchat
10:37:29 am megbertapelle: RT @c4lpt: Don’t forget the Official Lrnchat Drinking Game™ http://lrnchatdrinkinggame.wikispaces.com/ (drinks at the ready!) #lrnchat
10:37:34 am adfunkster: #lrnchat Dirk Funk, Instructional designer from Amarillo school district. First time to participate instead of lurk.
10:37:35 am JudithELS: I’m just about to join #lrnchat so please excuse excessive tweets in the next hour. Pls do join us though … #lrnchat
10:37:40 am Tina_Barr: Hello all, Tina in Boston. Community manager for @carneysandoe #lrnchat
10:37:55 am megbertapelle: RT @lrnchat: Rule7. A few mins before the end of #lrnchat, reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too.
10:38:16 am maritzavdh: Going to catch a few minutes of #lrnchat before I have to be off again. My topics: performance support, mlearning, social learning.
10:38:25 am lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
10:38:27 am megbertapelle: @adfunkster welcome Dirk! #lrnchat
10:38:27 am scogill: #lrnchat intro: Sarah – Atlanta GA – Curriculum Manager responsible for content for new product training interested in social learning
10:38:31 am LauraLJ: Just about to participate in #lrnchat why not join me?
10:38:31 am megbertapelle: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
10:38:31 am alc47: @olliegardener Evening Ollie – how’s your week? #lrnchat
10:38:32 am purplelearning: Just about to participate in #lrnchat why not join me?
10:38:37 am JaneBozarth: Hello @davidakoontz . Say something funny, quick! #lrnchat
10:38:43 am JudithELS: Hi everyone. Judith Christian-Carter here from Warwickshire, UK who lives, breathes & eats learning. Yummy! #lrnchat
10:38:48 am AndreaMay1: #lrnchat Hi everyone, Andrea May in Minneapolis. VP, Inst Design for @dashethomson
10:38:49 am mrch0mp3rs: Aaron Silvers, Chicago, IL. Community Manager for @ADL_Initiative @LrnEXP @learningreg . CLO, Blogger, After Hours Party Person #lrnchat
10:38:50 am StephanieDaul: @adfunkster Welcome Dirk! #lrnchat
10:39:09 am maritzavdh: @JudithELS Hello. 🙂 Nice to be in #lrnchat with you tonight, albeit brief from my side.
10:39:11 am CherylMcLean: Cheryl McLean, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Focus is on ID and social media. Looking forward to #lrnchat discussion on Learning Analytics
10:39:12 am simbeckhampson: Paul Simbeck-Hampson, Consultant: Creativity, Design and Innovation, South Germany… http://simbeckhampson.com – Good evening 🙂 #lrnchat
10:39:12 am billcush: Mountain View, CA. Sales training…among other things…software, leadership dev, etc. #lrnchat
10:39:18 am LnDDave: Greetings #lrnchat – David Kelly, Training Director from NYC. Looking forward to another engaging discussion.
10:39:19 am catherine_delia: Hi Catherine from Rochester, NY, e-learning systems mgr, I usually do late session, but can’t tonite. #lrnchat
10:39:20 am RyanJSegrist: @JaneBozarth Hi Jane! I’ve been good. I’m glad I can get back into #lrnchat again. How have you been?
10:39:27 am atomic_jenna: @JaneBozarth Hi! You will be in my neck of the woods for the ASTD conference. We must get together! #lrnchat
10:39:27 am Tina_Barr: @JudithELS Hello! Good to ‘see’ you. I have not been able to do any chats for some time! #lrnchat
10:39:38 am TriciaRansom: Hi everyone, this is Tricia in Chicago! #lrnchat
10:39:39 am davidakoontz: duck #lrnchat
10:39:50 am KatieStroudPro: Haven’t learned much today–the day just got started over here in the Pacific Northwest. #lrnchat
10:39:57 am RaphaelHickling: #lrnchat Good day everyone. Raphael form Brooklyn NY and founder of StudyBoost.com
10:39:58 am MandyRG: #lrnchat Q0) I’ve learned that preparation is EVERYTHING if you’re delivering an online session. be prepared with technology as well as you
10:39:58 am dawnjmahoney: #lrnchat Q0) Learned that I just may not be as good at multi-tasking as I used to think I am. Dang! Research mt be right!
10:40:03 am alc47: Q0 I’ve learned that being kind brings warmth – even in cyberspace #lrnchat
10:40:09 am simbeckhampson: Twitter followers: Excuse tweet volume, it’s time for #lrnchat – if it gets too noisy, my advice is, join in 🙂
10:40:10 am mrch0mp3rs: @atomic_jenna Can’t complain about a thing. #lrnchat
10:40:11 am chettbradley: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
10:40:18 am TriciaRansom: Attention followers, I’ll be in the weekly online L&D chat called #lrnchat. AVANLANCHE of tweets coming…why dont u stop by?
10:40:29 am cahlan: #lrnchat Q1) learned that Krispy Kremes aren’t always the best start to a morning
10:40:35 am c4lpt: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week? #lrnchat
10:40:35 am atomic_jenna: @mrch0mp3rs Ditto! I’m fresh off vacation and loving life. #lrnchat
10:40:37 am Tina_Barr: Q0) I have learned that nature likes to play April Fool’s too (incoming snow storm tomorrow) #lrnchat
10:40:42 am KristiBroom: @RyanJSegrist Hi Ryan. How are you? #Lrnchat
10:40:45 am purplelearning: Hello #lrnchat peeps, I also Tweet as @LauraLJ and will be using that for my conversations.
10:40:47 am wls1961: Q0) learned my brother is at Photoshop World and I’m not! #lrnchat
10:40:50 am adfunkster: #lrnchat Am learning to create multimedia ePub files for distributing content to our staff using eReaders.
10:40:52 am TriciaRansom: Q0) Just learned all about SharePoint…going to use it for SME review instead of emails #lrnchat
10:40:55 am JudithELS: @maritzavdh Nice to touch base with you too – it’s been too long 😦 #lrnchat
10:40:56 am MimiBarbara: Q0) I’ve learned I function much better when I mind map my work. #lrnchat
10:41:03 am MandyRG: RT @cahlan: #lrnchat Q1) learned that Krispy Kremes aren’t always the best start to a morning>really? Never had that problem meself..
10:41:07 am RyanJSegrist: #lrnchat I have learned that you need more than one set of eyes on a piece of educational material…or else you look goofy
10:41:11 am megbertapelle: RT @dawnjmahoney: #lrnchat Q0) Learned that I just may not be as good at multi-tasking as I used to think I am. Dang! Research mt be right!
10:41:16 am KristiBroom: @TriciaRansom Hi Tricia. Warming up for you in Chicago? #Lrnchat
10:41:19 am dawnjmahoney: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
10:41:21 am simbeckhampson: Q0) I learnt that Google continues to shine in innovation and creativity. Blogger overhaul and +1 launch all within 24 hrs!! #lrnchat
10:41:22 am c4lpt: Q1) I’ve learned you sometime need to behave like an elephant (don’t ask!) #lrnchat
10:41:25 am InfoAtOCP: RT @TriciaRansom: Q0) Just learned all about SharePoint…going to use it for SME review instead of emails #lrnchat <-SharePoint’s tough
10:41:25 am derekwwade: Q0) I have learned how to better quiet my inner self-Judge, and allow learners to have their own experience w/o it being “about me” #lrnchat
10:41:32 am billcush: Hi @triciaransom: Hi everyone, this is Tricia in Chicago! #lrnchat
10:41:34 am RyanJSegrist: @KristiBroom I’ve been doing well. How have you been? #Lrnchat
10:41:36 am janet_frg: Have the rare chance to join in #lrnchat, please excuse the extra tweets.
10:41:39 am urbie: #lrnchat learned that sometimes giving up is the right thing to do
10:41:46 am catherine_delia: Q0) Learning more & more about Articulate and loving it, hoping to find the money to buy it. #lrnchat
10:41:52 am JaneBozarth: Q0 Learning about using PowerPoint on the Ipad. #lrnchat
10:41:52 am StephanieDaul: RT @TriciaRansom: Q0) Just learned all about SharePoint…going to use it for SME review instead of emails <love fewer emails> #lrnchat
10:41:56 am alc47: @c4lpt Really? #lrnchat
10:41:56 am TriciaRansom: @KristiBroom Warm? In Chicago? Coldest March in 28 years according to weatherman. sigh #lrnchat
10:41:58 am Tina_Barr: RT @katridgely: #lrnchat Q0) I learned that snakes in the bronx can post very funny tweets @BronxZoosCobra
10:42:07 am dbolen: Q0 learned that must trust my spidey sense and not fall into this is the way we do it here and resulting bad outcome #lrnchat
10:42:12 am TriciaRansom: @InfoAtOCP Tell me about it #lrnchat
10:42:17 am KristiBroom: Q0) I conquered a pivot table and chart in Excel. Not sure I learned yet though. #Lrnchat
10:42:20 am billcush: Q0) Today I learned I really can host lively discussions on Yammer instead of in a class. #lrnchat It is happening right now.
10:42:26 am LnDDave: Q0) I learned that hooking my iPad up to my HDTV is pretty damned awesome, and something I can leverage for learning. #lrnchat
10:42:29 am TriciaRansom: @billcush Hey! How you doin’? #lrnchat
10:42:34 am edCetraTraining: Q0) More ppl use celoxis as a pm tool than i thought #lrnchat
10:42:37 am atomic_jenna: @LnDDave Love that #lrnchat
10:42:38 am megbertapelle: love it! > RT @MimiBarbara: Q0) I’ve learned I function much better when I mind map my work. #lrnchat
10:42:42 am TriciaRansom: @StephanieDaul Everyone loves fewer emails, right? #lrnchat
10:42:43 am olliegardener: @c4lpt an invaluable skill I find – in certain circumstances ;/ #lrnchat
10:42:46 am MimiBarbara: @dbolen I trust your spidey sense. #lrnchat
10:42:47 am rachelsparrow: Q0 I’ve learnt how to set up an external group on Yammer! #lrnchat
10:42:51 am davidakoontz: Q0) Schneider’s Culture model: Collaboration, Control, Cultivation, Competence are the quadrants #lrnchat
10:42:52 am StephanieDaul: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week? #lrnchat
10:42:56 am katridgely: RT @billcush: Q0) Today I learned I really can host lively discussions on Yammer instead of in a class. #lrnchat It is happening right now.
10:43:04 am MandyRG: RT @KristiBroom: Q0) I conquered a pivot table and chart in Excel. Not sure I learned yet though. #Lrnchat>gotta start somewhere right?
10:43:05 am KristiBroom: @RyanJSegrist I’m doing well too. Glad to see you here again! #Lrnchat
10:43:06 am Tina_Barr: Q0) I (re)learned to just have faith at times that things can work out positively, even when you have no control #lrnchat
10:43:08 am megbertapelle: RT @derekwwade: Q0) I have learned how to better quiet my inner self-Judge, and allow learners to have their own experience w/o it being “about me” #lrnchat
10:43:14 am TriciaRansom: Q0) Learned that the Dept. of Streets & Sanitation is cutting workforce…mainly rat catchers. UGH #lrnchat
10:43:18 am dawnjmahoney: #lrnchat I’ve learned that we have an official drinking game Wiki–who knew?
10:43:18 am janet_frg: Q0) I learned that @Dave_Ferguson writes great blogs http://bit.ly/huMBUM (okay I already knew it but this one is really good!) #lrnchat
10:43:20 am billcush: Cool. I find it difficult..maybe its the change. RT @mimibarbara: Q0) I’ve learned I function much better when I mind map my work. #lrnchat
10:43:21 am RaphaelHickling: #lrnchat Q0) I’ve learned rain cannot stop progress. Its raining here in NY.
10:43:23 am jennystaley: Q0: Trying out Basecamp as a way to share online student portfolios #lrnchat
10:43:24 am JaneBozarth: Q0 Also learned about Storyline, coming soon from Articulate oohhhh, shiny…. #lrnchat
10:43:32 am rachelsparrow: @JaneBozarth that sounds very interesting #lrnchat
10:43:38 am OpenSesameNow: Good morning, #lrnchat! Kelly from OpenSesame elearning marketplace in Portland. Learned I am much better @ recording screencasts @ home
10:43:39 am kelly_smith01: Q0) Learning (in process) Google +1 as mentioned by #LRNCHAT folks (it is in test mode)
10:43:41 am catherine_delia: Q0) Contemplating how we can use Adobe X to maintain 100+ pg manual for elearning module. #lrnchat
10:43:43 am dbolen: RT @jennystaley: Q0: Trying out Basecamp as a way to share online student portfolios #lrnchat great tool
10:43:44 am KristiBroom: @TriciaRansom Ugh. Hope it warms up soon. #Lrnchat
10:43:46 am mrch0mp3rs: Q0) culling data from Facebook Questions, ppl like when I post something serious about food including a music or movie reference. #lrnchat
10:43:53 am JudithELS: Q0) I’ve learned this week that I can produce better work when I slow down a bit! #lrnchat
10:43:53 am maritzavdh: Q0) I’ve learnt that just because people are in the same building doesn’t mean they’re going to speak to each other. #lrnchat
10:43:56 am RyanJSegrist: @KristiBroom Good to go! I’m glad to be back. #Lrnchat
10:44:05 am MimiBarbara: RT @JaneBozarth: Looks fascinating! Q0 Also learned about Storyline, coming soon from Articulate oohhhh, shiny…. #lrnchat
10:44:06 am megbertapelle: RT @LnDDave: Q0) I learned that hooking my iPad up to my HDTV is pretty damned awesome, and something I can leverage for learning. #lrnchat
10:44:09 am mrch0mp3rs: RT @maritzavdh: Q0) I’ve learnt that just because people are in the same building doesn’t mean they’re going to speak to each other. #lrnchat
10:44:10 am StephanieDaul: Q0) This week I’m playing with Articulate…learning lots of cool tricks. #lrnchat
10:44:19 am TriciaRansom: @JaneBozarth That sounds interesting…Storyline that it #lrnchat
10:44:20 am billcush: @janebozarth Creating (from scratch) ppt on iPad or viewing? Both? #lrnchat
10:44:24 am LauraLJ: learned today (or was reminded) how colleagues can be the best therapists when needing to rationalise #lrnchat
10:44:30 am rachelsparrow: @JaneBozarth PP on IPad! #lrnchat
10:44:35 am maritzavdh: Reduce to speed up! T @JudithELS: Q0) I’ve learned this week that I can produce better work when I slow down a bit! #lrnchat #pkflow
10:44:37 am Tina_Barr: RT @rachelsparrow: @JaneBozarth PP on IPad! #lrnchat
10:44:40 am KatieStroudPro: Q0) This week I learned the psychology behind why we use “ahs” and “ums” in our speech. #lrnchat
10:44:44 am simbeckhampson: @maritzavdh Oooh, stress in the office? #lrnchat
10:44:45 am dawnjmahoney: RT @TriciaRansom: Q0) Learned that dept cutting workforce…mainly rat catchers. UGH #lrnchat |wow! beware in summer by the river!
10:44:52 am catherine_delia: @StephanieDaul Me Too! #lrnchat
10:44:53 am JaneBozarth: @billcush both. and editing existing #lrnchat
10:44:53 am TriciaRansom: Q0) I’ve re-introduced myself to the wonders of Captivate 5. #lrnchat
10:44:59 am LauraLJ: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
10:45:01 am megbertapelle: RT @janet_frg: Q0) I learned that @Dave_Ferguson writes great blogs http://bit.ly/huMBUM (okay I already knew it but this one is really good!) #lrnchat
10:45:03 am KristiBroom: Q0) and for @chambo_online, I did learn a new noun/verb: “you can Excel it” #Lrnchat
10:45:07 am LnDDave: Q0) I also confirmed my belief that following backchannels like #LS2011 and #CLOSYM can be very rewarding. #lrnchat
10:45:08 am purplelearning: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
10:45:09 am lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat
10:45:11 am StephanieDaul: RT @JaneBozarth: Q0 Also learned about Storyline, coming soon from Articulate oohhhh, shiny…. <can’t wait to see it> #lrnchat
10:45:14 am MimiBarbara: @KatieStroudPro Um, why? #lrnchat
10:45:16 am anetqedu: Q0) Today I learned that #lrnchat now has a chattime not in the middle of the night. (I still don’t get the info on something AM or EST PST)
10:45:19 am RyanJSegrist: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat
10:45:22 am alc47: Q0 This week I’ve learned in practice what i saw before – how baby elephants learn #lrnchat
10:45:25 am Tina_Barr: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat
10:45:27 am caseywaid: Do tell more abt storylon i luv shiny stuff #lrnchat
10:45:34 am megbertapelle: YAY! 🙂 I wanna check it out 2! 🙂 RT @JaneBozarth: Q0 Also learned abt Storyline, coming soon from Articulate oohhhh, shiny…. #lrnchat
10:45:34 am innerquest: @KatieStroudPro Ahh, right, that, um, sounds really, er, interesiting… #lrnchat
10:45:37 am c4lpt: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat
10:45:38 am derekwwade: @KatieStroudPro Psych behind “um” and “uh”? Interesting! Link please? #lrnchat
10:45:39 am TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat
10:45:39 am billcush: Giddy Up! RT @janebozarth: @billcush both. and editing existing #lrnchat
10:45:42 am LnDDave: @RaphaelHickling I’m working in Brooklyn Raphael – where are you based? #lrnchat
10:45:43 am davidakoontz: @mrch0mp3rs @maritzavdh some studies show that 100 feet in a building might as well be a airplane trip #lrnchat
10:45:43 am MimiBarbara: RT @LnDDave: Amen! Q0) I also confirmed my belief that following backchannels like #LS2011 and #CLOSYM can be very rewarding. #lrnchat
10:45:44 am AndreaMay1: Q0) Learned that polleverywhere.com can have many useful and fun applications. #lrnchat
10:45:47 am web20education: RT @c4lpt: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat
10:45:48 am JaneBozarth: @StephanieDaul We hear ‘game changer’ a lot. Storyline may be it. #lrnchat
10:45:49 am JudithELS: @Tina_Barr Gr8 to see you again too. Like you I’ve missed this weekly quality chat. #lrnchat
10:45:51 am catherine_delia: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat
10:45:52 am chettbradley: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat
10:46:06 am simbeckhampson: @alc47 How do baby elephants learn, Nic? #lrnchat
10:46:17 am MimiBarbara: Q0) I’ve learned following David Kelly’s blog helps me pull together my backchannel comments and thoughts. #lrnchat
10:46:19 am davidakoontz: Q1) none #lrnchat
10:46:21 am JudithELS: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat
10:46:22 am KristiBroom: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #Lrnchat
10:46:29 am billcush: @triciaransom Great. Being productive…having fun. Going skiing this weekend. #lrnchat
10:46:31 am dawnjmahoney: RT @KatieStroudPro Psych behind “um” and “uh”? Interesting! Um.. more info pls! #lrnchat
10:46:32 am LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat
10:46:32 am wls1961: Q1) butts in seats #lrnchat
10:46:33 am katridgely: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat
10:46:40 am roquegus: RT @chettbradley: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat #lrnchat
10:46:43 am StephanieDaul: RT @JaneBozarth: @StephanieDaul We hear game changer a lot. Storyline may be it. <Really. We have someone in the beta group> #lrnchat
10:46:43 am urbie: #lrnchat speaking of things learned today — new iPhone app coming tomorrow — Nexercise — exercise encouragement is good
10:46:50 am MandyRG: #lrnchat Q1) Bums on seats, Rather than changing behaviour. Why bother I say.
10:46:50 am megbertapelle: RT @LnDDave: Q0) I also confirmed my belief that following backchannels like #LS2011 and #CLOSYM can be very rewarding. #lrnchat
10:46:53 am simbeckhampson: @maritzavdh Nail biting, hair pulling – got it, nasty – wish you luck 😉 #lrnchat
10:46:55 am megbertapelle: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat
10:47:04 am TriciaRansom: Q1) We did a survey last November… #lrnchat
10:47:10 am MimiBarbara: Q1) We collect the learning standards: Level 1, 2, 3 data. So little Level 4. #lrnchat
10:47:13 am alc47: @simbeckhampson They have a helping trunk when needed but have to take responsibility. Ask @c4lpt #lrnchat
10:47:16 am maritzavdh: Q1) Dare I say it – we don’t collect learning data. We’ve tried, but we’re so busy building learning tools, we don’t get to it. #lrnchat
10:47:20 am KristiBroom: +1 RT @dawnjmahoney: RT @KatieStroudPro Psych behind “um” and “uh”? Interesting! Um.. more info pls! #Lrnchat
10:47:31 am LnDDave: Q0) I also learned that I need to remember to send @MimiBarbara her check – 🙂 Thanks for the comments! #lrnchat
10:47:31 am StephanieDaul: RT @MandyRG: #lrnchat Q1) Bums on seats, Rather than changing behaviour. Why bother I say. #lrnchat
10:47:32 am dbolen: Q0 shouldn’t you be collecting data on business results ? #lrnchat
10:47:33 am urbie: #lrnchat org trying to solve keeping bad people out — collects lots of data (that i can’t talk about)..
10:47:34 am simbeckhampson: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat
10:47:34 am Tina_Barr: @TriciaRansom what format did you use for the survey? #lrnchat
10:47:35 am TriciaRansom: Q1) We do Level 1 for ILT #lrnchat
10:47:42 am LnDDave: RT @wls1961: Q1) butts in seats #lrnchat
10:47:44 am billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat
10:47:52 am barrydahl: Q0) I’ve learned that college employees don’t want to be graded on work performance by A-F scale. It’s OK for students, though. #lrnchat
10:47:57 am sahana2802: Are we wired for mobile learning? #mlearning #workplace_learning #lrnchat http://icio.us/KXGLTu
10:47:57 am catherine_delia: Q1) Collect mostly quantitative data. Num modules, users, completions. Solves, demonstrated compliance regs. #lrnchat
10:47:58 am RyanJSegrist: We seem to try and collect data about what people “should” do as part of public service. #lrnchat
10:48:04 am MimiBarbara: Q0) We collect numbers. What do we then do with the numbers? Not much. Report out. #lrnchat
10:48:04 am Barb_D: #lrnchat New Here. Barb David, ed mgr for NAIOP (association). Resp for content and speakers.
10:48:07 am StephanieDaul: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) We do Level 1 for ILT #lrnchat
10:48:07 am davidakoontz: Q1) I’ve done smile sheets for training classes – with some success – using dot voting on big visible chart #lrnchat
10:48:08 am dawnjmahoney: RT @maritzavdh: Q1)Dare I say it-dont collect learning data. Weve tried, but were so busy building learning tools- dont get to it. #lrnchat
10:48:10 am TriciaRansom: @Tina_Barr Survey Gizmo…a lot like SurveyMonkey #lrnchat
10:48:25 am simbeckhampson: @alc47 Aha, very interesting research, if not a little out of the box 😉 #lrnchat
10:48:28 am Tina_Barr: Q1) What do you do with any numbers you do collect? #lrnchat
10:48:31 am InfoAtOCP: Q1) In training salespeople, we measure performance after they have taken the program to determine ROI #lrnchat
10:48:32 am katridgely: #lrnchat Q1) Look at levels 1 and 2, but that’s about it. Send data for clients to review, use the data for improving designs.
10:48:38 am JudithELS: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) We did a survey last November… <We’ve done those too but for clients not for us. #lrnchat
10:48:38 am derekwwade: Q1) Org is trying to change corp process. Data is “# of teams that have attended training” #lrnchat
10:48:44 am billcush: Q1) Collect learning data? Do people have USB ports next to their ears? #lrnchat
10:48:46 am LnDDave: Q1) I collect learning and performance data; in truth, I’m not asked for it, but it’s valued when I share it. #lrnchat
10:49:00 am Tina_Barr: @TriciaRansom I am very familiar with SurveyMonkey (that is our go to) but I love to learn new systems, glad I asked thx! #lrnchat
10:49:01 am dawnjmahoney: Q1) Associate Satisfaction…. (dit dit dit dah–gasp) #lrnchat
10:49:07 am alc47: @simbeckhampson Simply observing community behaviour and applying it #lrnchat
10:49:09 am MimiBarbara: Q0) Don’t think org considers problems to solve but tries to prove activity. #lrnchat
10:49:12 am simbeckhampson: @JudithELS Hi Judith, nice to see you. It’s been a while… #lrnchat
10:49:14 am scogill: #lrnchat we count how many people attend and smile sheet at the end – if we’re good we’ll also conduct a level 2 test
10:49:20 am c4lpt: @simbeckhampson @alc47 Will show you a picture. Hold on will need to get it organised. #lrnchat
10:49:24 am JaneBozarth: Q1 Completion– how many, not necessarily whether right ones completed 1/2 #Lrnchat
10:49:25 am chettbradley: Q1- i work for a prof. assn, so data relates to clinical knowledge gaps and $$ feasible solutions to fill them. #lrnchat
10:49:27 am barrydahl: Q1) state system was building a very good analytics tool for our LMS – but then pulled funding right before it was fully cooked. #lrnchat
10:49:29 am katridgely: #lrnchat Q1) quant and qual data, that is.
10:49:30 am olliegardener: q1) Christ.. I’m in the wrong business. Should have developed a “but detector” #lrnchat
10:49:37 am StephanieDaul: Q1) we just started using Cameo after a class for level 2 #lrnchat
10:49:45 am OpenSesameNow: Q1) We look at time spent on courses/pages; ease of finding what you need. Hope to make UI intuitive. #lrnchat
10:49:46 am chettbradley: keep forgetting to put #lrnchat in my msgs! such a noobie at this!
10:49:48 am ivan_eLearning: RT @sahana2802: Are we wired for mobile learning? #mlearning #workplace_learning #lrnchat http://icio.us/KXGLTu
10:49:49 am anetqedu: Q1) Not much – haven’t got time to document what we do – too busy doing it most of the time… #lrnchat
10:49:52 am atomic_jenna: Q1) Training activity, usage reports on courses #lrnchat
10:49:59 am dawnjmahoney: Q1) Not enough is my real answer. Nor does it truly link to solutions #lrnchat
10:50:00 am TriciaRansom: RT @olliegardener: q1) Christ.. I’m in the wrong business. Should have developed a “but detector” #lrnchat
10:50:05 am c4lpt: Q1) We don’t collect learning data – because it’s a meaningless activity. We are only interested in performance data #lrnchat
10:50:20 am Tina_Barr: RT @dawnjmahoney: Q1) Not enough is my real answer. Nor does it truly link to solutions #lrnchat SAME!
10:50:20 am dbolen: RT @C4LPT: Q1) We don’t collect learning data – because it’s a meaningless activity. We are only interested in performance data #lrnchat yes
10:50:25 am kelly_smith01: Q1) Most of the time (it seems) a company lacks the money, time, or expertise to capture and “ise” learning evaluation data. #lrnchat
10:50:30 am chettbradley: Q1- as for how well we fill said gaps w/ our programs…let’s just say we’re still building those metrics. 😉 #lrnchat
10:50:39 am buckinsand: RT: @C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat #lak11
10:50:41 am billcush: Q1) Problem 1: Run training more efficiently, so we collect cost per hour of ISD time and time it takes to dev training. #lrnchat
10:50:43 am StephanieDaul: Q1) Mainly how many courses we delivered and how many took the online stuff #lrnchat
10:50:44 am edCetraTraining: Q1) collecting data is one thing,but i’m not sure that the ultimate question of what problem they are trying to solve is answered. #lrnchat
10:50:45 am barrydahl: Q1) data from LMS would have been used as early warning 4 struggling students, w/interventions to try to bring them back to success #lrnchat
10:50:47 am LearningGrump: @lrnchat hello all, am fleeting in and out this afternoon. Apologies. #lrnchat
10:50:48 am KatieStroudPro: @dawnjmahoney @DerekWWade @innerquest @mimibarbara Um it started when Mom said WHO BROKE IT!? You needed time to think so said um #lrnchat
10:51:02 am katridgely: RT @c4lpt: Q1) We don’t collect learning data – because it’s a meaningless activity. We are only interested in performance data #lrnchat
10:51:02 am krueger: RT @c4lpt: Q1) We don’t collect learning data – because it’s a meaningless activity. We are only interested in performance data #lrnchat
10:51:05 am bayuadhitya: RT @c4lpt: Q1) We don’t collect learning data – because it’s a meaningless activity. We are only interested in performance data #lrnchat
10:51:21 am JaneBozarth: @chettbradley try tweetchat.com — it will add the hashtag #lrnchat
10:51:22 am maritzavdh: Would love to stay and chat more, but alas. Life is calling. Keep the faith in learning, all. #lrnchat
10:51:24 am MimiBarbara: RT@C4LPT:Nice!!! Q1) We dont collect learning data – because its a meaningless activity. We are only interested in performance data #lrnchat
10:51:26 am adfunkster: #lrnchat Collecting subjective information (not real data) did staff change behavior? Did student performance improve.
10:51:31 am LnDDave: Q1) Org asks about activity, but cares about performance. They have grown to see me as the bridge between the 2 #lrnchat
10:51:33 am TriciaRansom: Q1) I think often the problem we (as L&D professionals) are trying to solve is justifying our existence #lrnchat
10:51:50 am JaneBozarth: Q1 one year we had 2,000 more people complete online new hire orientation than we actually hired. Success!! #lrnchat
10:51:59 am JaneBozarth: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) I think often the problem we (as L&D professionals) are trying to solve is justifying our existence #lrnchat
10:52:07 am RyanJSegrist: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1 one year we had 2,000 more people complete online new hire orientation than we actually hired. Success!! #lrnchat
10:52:10 am InfoAtOCP: RT @LnDDave: Q1) Org asks about activity, but cares about performance. They have grown to see me as the bridge between the 2 #lrnchat
10:52:11 am billcush: Q1) Problem 2: NH Time to Proficiency: How long does it take a NH to meet performance goals..sales, calls per hour, etc #lrnchat
10:52:12 am dawnjmahoney: @KatieStroudPro Huh. How much did this course cost again? (I want in on that action!) <wink, nudge, grin> #lrnchat
10:52:18 am JudithELS: Q1) My experience is that only L&D people take any notice of learning data #lrnchat
10:52:22 am KristiBroom: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) I think often the problem we (as L&D professionals) are trying to solve is justifying our existence #Lrnchat
10:52:24 am alc47: RT @katridgely: Q1) dont collect learning data – its a meaningless activity. We are only interested in performance data #lrnchat
10:52:33 am OpenSesameNow: I think @CharlieSheen is working on this RT @olliegardener q1) Christ. I’m in wrong business. Should have developed “butt detector” #lrnchat
10:52:34 am scogill: #lrnchat Q1) problem we’re trying to fix is how to get our training content to the right people – role based learning paths in our future
10:52:34 am simbeckhampson: Collecting data is not meaningless if your purpose is to extract the a synthesis which can be better used to affect performance. #lrnchat
10:52:35 am katridgely: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) I think often the problem we (as L&D professionals) are trying to solve is justifying our existence #lrnchat
10:52:44 am LnDDave: Q1) Honestly, I have very little interest in the reports I get from my LMS; why should I expect anyone else to? #lrnchat
10:52:47 am TriciaRansom: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1 one year we had 2,000 more people complete online new hire orientation than we actually hired. Success!! #lrnchat
10:52:48 am billcush: Q1) Problem 3: Increase revenues. How to help sales people sell better, more, etc. #lrnchat
10:52:51 am dawnjmahoney: RT @c4lpt: Q1) We dont collect learning data – because its a meaningless activity. We are only interested in perf data|Agree! #lrnchat
10:53:00 am StephanieDaul: RT @JudithELS: Q1) My experience is that only L&D people take any notice of learning data <needs to be biz data for ppl to see it> #lrnchat
10:53:01 am MimiBarbara: RT @JudithELS: So true! Q1) My experience is that only L&D people take any notice of learning data #lrnchat
10:53:03 am cahlan: #lrnchat Q1) we try to help clients gather content data & survey data for finding insights about online course usage and attitudes
10:53:09 am anetqedu: Q1) But we collect lots of teaching data… completion, on-time, delayed, hours etc. All part of our funding model w. the state #lrnchat
10:53:10 am LnDDave: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) I think often the problem we (as L&D professionals) are trying to solve is justifying our existence #lrnchat
10:53:21 am JaneBozarth: RT @JudithELS: So true! Q1) My experience is that only L&D people take any notice of learning data #lrnchat
10:53:27 am Tina_Barr: RT @anetqedu: Q1) But we collect lots of teaching data… completion, on-time, delayed, hours etc. All part of our funding model w. the state #lrnchat
10:53:34 am JaneBozarth: Really surprising info coming out in #lrnchat this morning…
10:53:39 am billcush: Funny! RT @barrydahl: Q0) ..learned that college emps don’t want to be graded on work perf by A-F scale. OK for students, though. #lrnchat
10:53:46 am dawnjmahoney: RT @MimiBarbara: RT @JudithELS: So true! Q1) My experience is that only L&D people take any notice of learning data #lrnchat
10:54:06 am RyanJSegrist: Q1 How does one quantify ethical behavior in a measurable way? Counting mere compliance doesn’t work. I keep running into that #lrnchat
10:54:15 am billcush: Yep RT @c4lpt: Q1) We don’t collect learning data – because it’s a meaningless activity. We are only interested in performance data #lrnchat
10:54:20 am InfoAtOCP: Q1) The key to collecting data is asking questions that measure the programs objective, otherwise wasted activity #lrnchat
10:54:24 am anetqedu: RT @LnDDave: Q1) Honestly, I have very little interest in the reports I get from my LMS; why should I expect anyone else to? #lrnchat
10:54:25 am mrch0mp3rs: RT @RyanJSegrist: Q1 How does one quantify ethical behavior in a measurable way? Counting mere compliance doesn’t work. I keep running into that #lrnchat
10:54:26 am simbeckhampson: Making sense of the data is work. Collective intelligence is the future. Combining AI and HI. #insights feed #success #lrnchat
10:54:27 am LearningGrump: @lrnchat Q1, I don’t even have an LMS. I should, but as a one man team I have enough to get on with.
10:54:32 am alc47: RT @JudithELS: Q1) My experience is that only L&D people take any notice of learning data #lrnchat
10:54:34 am adfunkster: RT @LnDDave: Q1) Honestly, I have very little interest in the reports I get from my LMS; why should I expect anyone else to? #lrnchat
10:54:35 am c4lpt: Q1) Course completions, happy sheets, etc tell you very little . What counts is can people do their jobs (better) #lrnchat
10:54:46 am caseywaid: We use lrn data for marketing our trning #lrnchat
10:54:48 am LnDDave: Q1) I rarely share data. I collect data so I can tell a credible story. #lrnchat
10:54:48 am scogill: @MimiBarbara @JudithELS we’ve had success lately getting sales mgrs to look @ data, so far all they care for is time spent training #lrnchat
10:54:51 am Tina_Barr: RT @InfoAtOCP: Q1) The key 2 collecting data is asking ?s that measure the programs objective, otherwise wasted activity #lrnchat AGREE
10:54:53 am flowersprof: Q1) We also collect data on what % of time trainers are spending against key activities, e.g. delivery, perf suppt #lrnchat
10:54:53 am JaneBozarth: @RyanJSegrist well, that goes back to whether ethics can be ‘taught’, maybe? #lrnchat
10:55:06 am StephanieDaul: RT @c4lpt: Q1) Course completions, happy sheets, etc tell you very little . What counts is can people do their jobs (better) #lrnchat
10:55:07 am cahlan: #lrnchat learning data is important, but only as it connects to performance data. We want to solve for better perf. by improving learning
10:55:12 am alc47: RT @c4lpt: Q1) Course completions, happy sheets, etc tell you very little . What counts is can people do their jobs (better) #lrnchat
10:55:23 am LearningGrump: @lrnchat Q1 and I started to use evaluation sheets until I realised only I was caring about them. No one has asked me for them, even my boss
10:55:29 am simbeckhampson: RT @LnDDave: Q1) I rarely share data. I collect data so I can tell a credible story. < point in case… #lrnchat
10:55:30 am JudithELS: RT @c4lpt: Q1) Course completions, happy sheets, etc tell you very little . What counts is can people do their jobs (better) <Yes #lrnchat
10:55:32 am OpenSesameNow: RT @c4lpt: Q1) We don’t collect learning data – because it’s a meaningless activity. We are only interested in performance data #lrnchat
10:55:33 am dawnjmahoney: RT@RyanJSegrist:Q1 How does 1 quantify ethical behavior n measurable way? Counting mere compliance doesnt work-keep running into it #lrnchat
10:55:42 am Jeffrey_Furtado: Jeffrey Furtado, Project Manager #edcetratraining.com, Toronto ON – hello all #lrnchat
10:55:55 am catherine_delia: So what is learning data, really? #lrnchat
10:56:06 am lress: RT @c4lpt: Q1) We don’t collect learning data – because it’s a meaningless activity. We are only interested in performance data #lrnchat
10:56:15 am TheBobPikeGroup: RT @LnDDave: Q1) Org asks about activity, but cares about performance. They have grown to see me as the bridge between the 2 #lrnchat
10:56:18 am RyanJSegrist: @JaneBozarth You’re right. Sheesh, this ethics & learning business begs one question after another. #lrnchat
10:56:20 am Tina_Barr: Q1) Learning data is only really valuable if you are able to adjust given the analytics. Otherwise, why do it? #lrnchat
10:56:25 am KristiBroom: Good question RT @catherine_delia: So what is learning data, really? #Lrnchat
10:56:27 am InfoAtOCP: RT @catherine_delia: So what is learning data, really? #lrnchat <-good question!
10:56:27 am TriciaRansom: Good question! RT @catherine_delia: So what is learning data, really? #lrnchat
10:56:31 am Barb_D: @Jeffrey_Furtado Hi Jeffrey #lrnchat
10:56:44 am chrstphr_adams: Q1) If more learning pros would care about business data, more business pros would care about learning data. #lrnchat
10:56:46 am adfunkster: how to measure this? RT @c4lpt: Q1) …….. What counts is can people do their jobs (better) #lrnchat
10:56:56 am InfoAtOCP: RT @Tina_Barr: Q1) Learning data is only really valuable if you are able to adjust given the analytics. Otherwise, why do it? #lrnchat <True
10:57:06 am Jeffrey_Furtado: Q1) – Agreed. Data is collected, but how many follow up #lrnchat
10:57:07 am TheSkyHighGuy: #lrnchat Q)0 – I learned that practice and persistence can help you win the Kerry & Limerick round toastmasters international speech contest
10:57:07 am scogill: #lrnchat Q1) does L&D have insight to performance data or do we have to rely on the business? learning data is in our control to collect
10:57:10 am 2GFred: RT @JaneBozarth: Really surprising info coming out in #lrnchat this morning… #lrnchat
10:57:10 am OpenSesameNow: RT @chrstphr_adams: Q1) If more learning pros would care about business data, more business pros would care about learning data. #lrnchat
10:57:13 am TriciaRansom: Q1) As a recovering Type A Consultant, I can honestly tell you I can spin any data to tell the story I want to tell…not reality #lrnchat
10:57:17 am KristiBroom: Q1) I’m watching all the tweets and wondering if we are suffering from data admiration. #Lrnchat
10:57:22 am katridgely: RT @catherine_delia: So what is learning data, really? #lrnchat
10:57:24 am rachelsparrow: @alc47 @c4lpt totally agree Nic – proof is in the pudding! #lrnchat
10:57:28 am LauraLJ: RT @OpenSesameNow: RT @c4lpt: Q1) We don’t collect learning data – because it’s a meaningless activity. We are only interested in performance data #lrnchat
10:57:28 am KatieStroudPro: Q1) I’m a consultant now, so my reply is…It depends! #lrnchat
10:57:32 am RyanJSegrist: RT @KristiBroom: Q1) I’m watching all the tweets and wondering if we are suffering from data admiration. #Lrnchat
10:57:33 am Jeffrey_Furtado: @Barb_D @Jeffrey_Furtado – Hello Barb D #lrnchat
10:57:36 am derekwwade: RT @LnDDave: Q1) Org asks about activity, but cares about performance. They have grown to see me as the bridge between the 2 #lrnchat
10:57:46 am dawnjmahoney: RT @JudithELS Sales mgrs comment-this is hilarious-they breathe data! #lrnchat
10:58:09 am dawnjmahoney: @RyanJSegrist @KristiBroom yes #lrnchat
10:58:09 am alc47: RT RT @chrstphr_adams: Q1) If learning pros would care about business data, more business pros would care about learning data. #lrnchat
10:58:14 am 2GFred: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat
10:58:17 am Barb_D: (q1) whats the diff between learning data and performance data? #lrnchat
10:58:53 am LnDDave: Q1) I’m always amazed by the amount of data that is collected, and never used. Be brave enough to stop if it doesn’t make sense. #lrnchat
10:59:04 am alc47: @Barb_D There should be no diff between learning data and performance data #lrnchat
10:59:08 am MimiBarbara: @Barb_D Learning data is knowledge-based. Performance data is how the learning application impacted business metrics. #lrnchat
10:59:12 am adfunkster: #lrnchat I think we have to start with the question what is the purpose of data. That will help define what the data is we should collect.
10:59:15 am TriciaRansom: Q1) I think often its difficult for us to have access to performance data…IT silos, dept. silos, mng silos #lrnchat
10:59:15 am Barb_D: and does the data collected vary depending on if it is an internal vs external training? #lrnchat
10:59:18 am scogill: RT @LnDDave: Q1) I’m always amazed by the amount of data that is collected, and never used. Be brave enough to stop if it doesn’t make sense. #lrnchat
10:59:35 am dawnjmahoney: @RyanJSegrist @KristiBroom But to fund projects etc need the data-good & bad #lrnchat
10:59:36 am AndreaMay1: q1) Does the business simply want compliance data, or actual evidence of improvement through training? #lrnchat
10:59:36 am StephanieDaul: Q1) with the data we collect (butts in seats) we are trying to justify your being here #lrnchat
10:59:41 am OpenSesameNow: @barb_d Learning data measures engagement/participation/success in learning process. Perf. data measures in the on-the-job context. #lrnchat
10:59:41 am katridgely: RT @adfunkster: #lrnchat I think we have to start with the question what is the purpose of data. That will help define what the data is we should collect.
10:59:50 am krueger: RT@Barb_D Barb David (q1) whats the diff between learning data and performance data? | Should be the same! #lrnchat
10:59:50 am scogill: @LnDDave #lrnchat I had that problem in a previous role, no one used my data so I stopped the endless excel spreadsheet reports!
10:59:55 am npmaven: RT @alc47: @Barb_D There should be no diff between learning data and performance data #lrnchat
10:59:59 am tenartemis: Kristen, Orlando, unemployed trainer Q1) is completion data, learning data? #lrnchat
11:00:03 am jeffreytaekman: RT @Callooh: Visual Storytelling: Interview with Nancy Duarte, – http://goo.gl/y86AD #lrnchat #elearning
11:00:09 am JaneBozarth: DUH y’all that’s what cardboard boxes are for. A place to put the data after we print it out. #lrnchat
11:00:18 am adfunkster: RT @AndreaMay1: q1) Does the business simply want compliance data, or actual evidence of improvement through training? #lrnchat
11:00:24 am JaneBozarth: Gloria Gery: “Why don’t we just weigh them?” #lrnchat
11:00:25 am mrch0mp3rs: RT @tenartemis: Kristen, Orlando, unemployed trainer Q1) is completion data, learning data? #lrnchat
11:00:27 am catherine_delia: RT @npmaven: RT @alc47: @Barb_D There should be no diff between learning data and performance data #lrnchat
11:00:27 am chettbradley: RT @chrstphr_adams: “Q1) If more learning pros would care about business… ” for us not in priv. enterprise that doesn’t hold up #lrnchat
11:00:28 am kelly_smith01: Q1) Sometime learning data is used as a “performance measure” for trainers, ISDers, etc. #lrnchat
11:00:37 am alc47: @OpenSesameNow @barb_d Not sure about the assertion of success – can only be measured in workplace performance #lrnchat
11:00:39 am Barb_D: @OpenSesameNow so for external customers, perf data is more difficult to collect #lrnchat
11:00:40 am KristiBroom: Q1) I also think that sometimes because data collection can be automated, it’s easy to keep it “just in case.” #Lrnchat
11:00:41 am LnDDave: Q1) Ever notice that orgs ask for data from external vendors that they don’t ask for internally? #Hypocrisy #lrnchat
11:00:47 am JudithELS: RT @JaneBozarth: DUH yall thats what cardboard boxes are for. A place to put the data after we print it out <LOL #lrnchat
11:00:53 am dgeaston: RT @simbeckhampson: Making sense of the data is work. Collective intelligence is the future. Combining AI and HI. #insights feed #success #lrnchat
11:00:58 am mrch0mp3rs: RT @LnDDave: Q1) Ever notice that orgs ask for data from external vendors that they don’t ask for internally? #Hypocrisy #lrnchat
11:00:59 am LnDDave: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) I think often its difficult for us to have access to performance data…IT silos, dept. silos, mng silos #lrnchat
11:01:05 am LearningGrump: Hmm. Just had an interesting notion from #lrnchat regarding data collection and reporting.
11:01:09 am JaneBozarth: YES RT @LnDDave: Q1) Ever notice that orgs ask for data from external vendors that they dont ask for internally? #Hypocrisy #lrnchat
11:01:09 am alc47: RT @JaneBozarth: Gloria Gery: “Why dont we just weigh them?” Brilliant – about as much use!! #lrnchat
11:01:09 am sahana2802: Mobile learning 101 by Judy Brown #mlearning #workplace_learning #lrnchat http://icio.us/LHbElt
11:01:10 am StephanieDaul: RT @kelly_smith01: Q1) Sometime learning data is used as a “performance measure” for trainers, ISDers, etc. #lrnchat
11:01:45 am lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:01:45 am OpenSesameNow: @alc47 @Barb_D Agreed! I meant success measured in learning through “quiz/assessment”; did not mean to imply actual measurement. #lrnchat
11:01:59 am Tina_Barr: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:02:06 am 2GFred: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:02:08 am TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:02:08 am MimiBarbara: RT @OpenSesameNow: Lrng data measures engagement/participation/success in learning process. Perf. data measures on-the-job context. #lrnchat
11:02:11 am RyanJSegrist: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:02:15 am alc47: @StephanieDaul @kelly_smith01 Really – I need to be convinced #lrnchat
11:02:16 am chettbradley: RE: @chrstphr_adams probably true for “training” but for PD we need the org to recognize the trends we spot in order to lead prof. #lrnchat
11:02:24 am JaneBozarth: Q2 Lord yes. #lrnchat
11:02:27 am dawnjmahoney: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:02:28 am JudithELS: RT @kelly_smith01: Q1) Sometime learning data is used as a “performance measure” for trainers, ISDers, etc. <As with teachers! #lrnchat
11:02:28 am billcush: Tweet of the day. RT @lnddave: Q1) Ever notice that orgs ask for data from vendors that they don’t ask for internally? #Hypocrisy #lrnchat
11:02:29 am catherine_delia: We need to track compliance, which is just evidence of completion for the regulatory and accreditation agencies. #lrnchat
11:02:37 am LnDDave: @scogill Oooo, I hate the Excel Export. I’ve actually caught cheats there. (HINT: The LMS won’t misspell COMPLETED) #lrnchat
11:02:39 am Barb_D: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:02:39 am KristiBroom: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #Lrnchat
11:02:40 am Tina_Barr: Q2) anonymity is not always ethical but if info is not it can create ethical issues #lrnchat
11:02:42 am c4lpt: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:02:45 am KatieStroudPro: Q1) no. 1 purpose for collecting learning data in my space is to measure increased revenue. #lrnchat
11:02:46 am JudithELS: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:02:51 am LearningGrump: @lrnchat Hmm. I don’t think so. It’s as ethical as collecting Census data. #lrnchat
11:02:53 am TriciaRansom: Q2) I know that there may sometimes be issues w/how it’s used especially for people in unions. #lrnchat
11:02:55 am MimiBarbara: RT @KristiBroom: Q1) I also think that sometimes because data collection can be automated, its easy to keep it “just in case.” #lrnchat
11:02:56 am JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:02:58 am LauraLJ: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:02:59 am StephanieDaul: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:02:59 am alc47: @OpenSesameNow So what does that prove – that people are good at quizzes! #lrnchat
11:03:06 am katridgely: #lrnchat Q1) learning data is also used as a mktng for business. “Telling” with learn data is easier than “showing” with perf. data
11:03:06 am chettbradley: RT @Barb_D: and does the data collected vary depending on if it is an internal vs external training? #lrnchat Very much so i think!
11:03:09 am solveh: Q1) completion data for compliance documentation, plus happy sheets #lrnchat
11:03:11 am LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:03:16 am catherine_delia: Learning data and performance efficiencies is another beast entirely. #lrnchat
11:03:17 am gjcannon: Q1) L&D reports on what it can measure and what it can directly attribute to itself which isn’t bottom line performance. #lrnchat
11:03:21 am katridgely: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:03:24 am dgeaston: RT @c4lpt: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat
11:03:25 am JaneBozarth: I have seen the data used for harm/to punish. #lrnchat
11:03:26 am kelly_smith01: Q1) I think Level 1 “smile” sheets are used more to satisfy the customer (they think we care) than improve the product #lrnchat
11:03:32 am LearningGrump: @lrnchat Q2 I guess it’s more about how the data is used like @TriciaRansom has just said #lrnchat
11:03:34 am KatieStroudPro: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:03:34 am billcush: And thats the only data L&D pros should get…RT @triciaransom: Q1) Its difficult to get perf data > silos, dept. silos, mng silos #lrnchat
11:03:45 am InfoAtOCP: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat <-Are the ethical issues in how you use the data?
11:03:45 am OpenSesameNow: @alc47 That’s what I mean, yes. I did not say it was a useful measure. #lrnchat
11:03:48 am TriciaRansom: Q2) It depends on what data you’re collecting. If it’s name, age, race, gender, and test scores you are a lawyer’s dream! #lrnchat
11:03:49 am JaneBozarth: Also data gathered in such a way as to skew perception. #lrnchat
11:03:52 am dawnjmahoney: RT @billcush: Tweet of the day. RT @lnddave: back to justification again #lrnchat
11:03:53 am billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:03:54 am Tina_Barr: RT @kelly_smith01: Q1) I think Level 1 “smile” sheets R used more 2 satisfy the customer (they think we care) than improve product #lrnchat
11:03:59 am RyanJSegrist: Q2 If the data are anonymous, does the issue go away? (Pardon the Platonic Dialogic reponses today 😉 #lrnchat
11:04:03 am mrch0mp3rs: Q2) There are all sorts of ethical issues with collecting learning data. Starting with who’s collecting it; what data; what purpose #lrnchat
11:04:09 am LnDDave: RT @JaneBozarth: I have seen the data used for harm/to punish. #lrnchat
11:04:14 am anetqedu: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:04:26 am KatieStroudPro: RT @InfoAtOCP: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat <-Are the ethical issues in how you use the data?
11:04:28 am JudithELS: RT @JaneBozarth: I have seen the data used for harm/to punish. <Yes, me too, & sadly all too often #lrnchat
11:04:30 am JaneBozarth: @mrch0mp3rs and who has access to it, and why. #lrnchat
11:04:32 am katridgely: #lrnchat Q2) too easy to spin! you might need to actually change a design but someone might spin it to make it look good – learner loses
11:04:35 am chettbradley: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:04:52 am OpenSesameNow: RT @billcush: And that’s only data L&D should get..RT @triciaransom Its difficult to get perf data > silos, dept. silos, mng silos #lrnchat
11:04:56 am StephanieDaul: Q2) you have to ask why you are collecting data #lrnchat
11:04:57 am _Kavi: Later entry is entry nevertheless ! #lrnchat
11:04:58 am cahlan: Q2) It boils down to being good stewards of data. Data by itself is not nefarious. #lrnchat
11:05:01 am chettbradley: RT @JaneBozarth: Q2 Lord yes. #lrnchat
11:05:08 am JaneBozarth: Are there ethical implications to collecting data that is never used or analyzed? #lrnchat
11:05:15 am mrch0mp3rs: Q2) That said, I’m VERY CLEARLY in support of generalized capture of a person’s experience with content. Check @LrnEXP on why. #lrnchat
11:05:15 am adfunkster: Q2) #lrnchat yes – depending on intended and actual use of the data collected.
11:05:18 am buckinsand: RT: @C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat #lak11
11:05:20 am _Kavi: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:05:20 am scogill: #lrnchat Q2) I see no harm in collecting the data- but when all you have is #s you can present ’em just to show what YOU want them to see
11:05:22 am 2GFred: Q2) Ethical issues arise from what you do or DON’T do with information. Is learning data turned into information? #lrnchat
11:05:23 am Tina_Barr: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q2) Starting with who’s collecting it; what data; what purpose #lrnchat (Agree with WHO/purpose ++ how collected)
11:05:23 am chettbradley: Q2 Where do we begin with that one…? #lrnchat
11:05:26 am JaneBozarth: @katridgely yes too much spin #lrnchat
11:05:32 am MimiBarbara: RT @cahlan: So true! Q2) It boils down to being good stewards of data. Data by itself is not nefarious. #lrnchat
11:05:34 am katridgely: RT @cahlan: Q2) It boils down to being good stewards of data. Data by itself is not nefarious. #lrnchat
11:05:37 am TriciaRansom: Q2) Look at that BP employee who lost a laptop w/gulf resident’s SSN, names, etc. What’s your storage protocol? #lrnchat
11:05:37 am AndreaMay1: @catherine_delia That’s by far the easiest training outcome to track #lrnchat
11:05:37 am JaneBozarth: RT @chettbradley: Q2 Where do we begin with that one…? #lrnchat
11:05:37 am LnDDave: Q2) Any time data is collected without a set plan for it’s use, you’re opening the door to ethical issues. #lrnchat
11:05:41 am c4lpt: Q2) Yes, because assumptions can be made on flimsy evidence #lrnchat
11:05:51 am katridgely: @JaneBozarth good point! #lrnchat
11:05:52 am KristiBroom: RT @2GFred: Q2) Ethical issues arise from what you do or DONT do with information. Is learning data turned into information? #Lrnchat
11:05:55 am urbie: #lrnchat ethical issues in collecting learning data? nope, so long as you use it for good and not evil (thank you Maxwell Smart)..
11:05:59 am StephanieDaul: RT @LnDDave: Q2) Any time data is collected without a set plan for its use, youre opening the door to ethical issues. #lrnchat
11:06:09 am alc47: RT @chettbradley: Q2 Where do we begin with that one…? Not sure – seems irrelevant to me #lrnchat
11:06:14 am JaneBozarth: Right. Evidence is not proof. RT @c4lpt: Q2) Yes, because assumptions can be made on flimsy evidence #lrnchat
11:06:16 am dawnjmahoney: Q2) Yes. I get LMS report requests all of the time for the carrot/stick of performance #lrnchat
11:06:16 am Barb_D: Q2 we need age, gender info when doing a needs assessment.. helps us understand our market and who we are reaching. #lrnchat
11:06:23 am kelly_smith01: Q2) Does the company seperate learning data from performance evaluation and do the make it clear to everyone. #lrnchat
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11:06:35 am dawnjmahoney: RT @JaneBozarth: Right. Evidence is not proof. RT @c4lpt: Q2) Yes, because assumptions can be made on flimsy evidence #lrnchat
11:06:38 am mrch0mp3rs: Q2) How do you audit/guarantee that the data will be used for the purposes intended or afforded in ways that protect the ind? #lrnchat
11:06:47 am billcush: Q2) Those issues could be reduced/elim if L&D pros had access to same reports as ops leaders..sales, CSat, costs, etc #lrnchat
11:06:48 am RyanJSegrist: Q2 Privacy isn’t the only issue. Misuse or falsification of data could be a problem too. #lrnchat
11:06:49 am JaneBozarth: Also re ethics of data, like child’s ‘permanent record’– how long kept, how long followed on particular employee? #lrnchat
11:06:53 am mrch0mp3rs: Q2) Who owns the data once its been collected? #lrnchat
11:07:02 am chettbradley: Q2 for health profs. lrning/pract. data can result in continued/revoked license to practice. So YES there are ethics involved #lrnchat
11:07:15 am LnDDave: Q2) Honesty Regarding Lvl1- is it ethical to tell someone their opinions matter when in truth the data is not changing anything? #lrnchat
11:07:28 am _Kavi: Q2) When learning data is used for ‘promotion’ recommendation, it still isnt ethical. IMHO #lrnchat
11:07:31 am alc47: @kelly_smith01 That makes more sense as a question – if data collected is related to performance can there be ethical issues? #lrnchat
11:07:33 am solveh: Q2) all data collection has been verified & cleared w/ authorities & unions. Clearly defined usage & purpose! Transparency helps #lrnchat
11:07:40 am RyanJSegrist: RT @_Kavi: Q2) When learning data is used for ‘promotion’ recommendation, it still isnt ethical. IMHO #lrnchat
11:07:44 am cahlan: Q2) btw, check out “Web analysts code of ethics”, interesting read: http://bit.ly/ev5qxg #lrnchat
11:07:49 am _Kavi: RT @dawnjmahoney: Q2) Yes. I get LMS report requests all of the time for the carrot/stick of performance #lrnchat
11:07:56 am Barb_D: @RyanJSegrist: Q2 Privacy isnt the only issue. Misuse or falsification of data could be a problem too. <EW falsification of data… #lrnchat
11:08:03 am TriciaRansom: Q2) If you collect this data, such as age, gender, etc. for needs assessment, what happens if those ppl sue org (Walmart) #lrnchat
11:08:07 am leavittm: @chettbradley also implications for healthcare employers – continued/denied accreditation, fines #lrnchat
11:08:10 am OpenSesameNow: Q2) This is a depressing question & answer set. Does anyone’s org have ethics policies on this stuff that they could share? #lrnchat
11:08:13 am LnDDave: RT @JaneBozarth: Are there ethical implications to collecting data that is never used or analyzed? #lrnchat <Could have just RTed this…
11:08:13 am AndreaMay1: RT @JaneBozarth: I have seen the data used for harm/to punish. #lrnchat Me too – those organizations are NOT pleasant places to be .
11:08:14 am JaneBozarth: What about learners who don’t know what we collect/ what we have access to and keep? It’s become the Panopticon in many ways… #lrnchat
11:08:19 am katridgely: Data can be so misleading – take “Mars Needs Moms”. Thought the data showed audiences would love it. Wrong! Off subj., but relates #lrnchat
11:08:21 am gjcannon: Q2) not doing something at all with the data is potentially an ethical issue. Status quo, no smoke without fire etc #lrnchat
11:08:32 am RyanJSegrist: @Barb_D That’s what I say too! Boo cold fusion!! #lrnchat
11:08:38 am _Kavi: Q1) My first question…Does the learner know that data about his learning is being collected ? #lrnchat
11:08:38 am KatieStroudPro: Q2) …it depends 😉 #lrnchat but seriously, what is collected, how it’s stored, how it’s used & what “learners” know about the process
11:08:39 am chettbradley: RT @InfoAtOCP: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat <-Are the ethical issues in how you use the data?
11:08:45 am barrydahl: Q2) Maybe the Q should be – is it unethical to sit on this mountain of student learning data and do nothing with it? #lrnchat
11:08:56 am JaneBozarth: http://bozarthzone.blogspot.com/2009/02/e-learning-and-panopticon.html #lrnchat
11:08:58 am simbeckhampson: Q2) btw, check out “Web analysts code of ethics”, interesting read: http://bit.ly/ev5qxg #lrnchat
11:09:01 am chettbradley: RT @JaneBozarth: Also data gathered in such a way as to skew perception. #lrnchat
11:09:06 am _Kavi: Q2) My first question…Does the learner know that data about his learning is being collected ? #lrnchat
11:09:15 am Tina_Barr: RT @barrydahl: Q2) mayB the Q shld B – is it unethical 2 sit on mountain of student learning data & do nothing w/ it? #lrnchat Agree! 🙂
11:09:31 am cahlan: Q2) in summary, points are 1. keep data secure, 2. full disclosure, 3. allow user opt-out, 4. accountability http://bit.ly/ev5qxg #lrnchat
11:09:33 am chettbradley: RT @JaneBozarth: Also data gathered in such a way as to skew perception. #lrnchat All too often – hence the “ethics”
11:09:35 am LnDDave: Q2) Ethical concerns are one reason I don’t share ‘data’ unless specifically asked for. I share stories based on my data. #lrnchat
11:09:44 am katridgely: @barrydahl I think it depends on what the data is really saying. Guess you won’t know til you climb down the mtn. #lrnchat
11:09:44 am billcush: Q2) “There are so many stocks to analyze, where does one begin?” Warren Buffet’s reply, “Begin with the letter A.” #lrnchat
11:09:45 am TriciaRansom: Q2) Giving people opt-out rights is ethical…as long as clearly explain whats collected, why, how used/stored/accessed. #lrnchat
11:09:55 am mrch0mp3rs: Q2) The sitting on the data is a problem. Lifecycle mgmt of data always an issue. Think about your Gmail. I just deleted 2005. #lrnchat
11:09:55 am RussMK: @_Kavi #lrnchat absolutely there are, may be regulatory ones in some countries (EU) as well.
11:10:01 am npmaven: RT @LnDDave: Q2) Ethical concerns are one reason I dont share data unless specifically asked for. I share stories based on my data. #lrnchat
11:10:03 am RyanJSegrist: Q2 In terms of terribleness, which is worse: Collecting data and not using it? or NOT collecting potentially useful data? #lrnchat
11:10:12 am katridgely: RT @TriciaRansom: Q2) Giving people opt-out rights is ethical…as long as clearly explain whats collected, why, how used/stored/accessed. #lrnchat
11:10:19 am Barb_D: RT @cahlan: Q2) in summary, points are 1. keep data secure, 2. full disclosure, 3. allow user opt-out, 4. accountability < Nice #lrnchat
11:10:19 am npmaven: RT @TriciaRansom: Q2) Giving people opt-out rights is ethical… clearly explain whats collected, why, how used/stored/accessed. #lrnchat
11:10:36 am jennystaley: RT @barrydahl: Q2) Maybe the Q should be – is it unethical to sit on this mountain of student learning data and do nothing with it? #lrnchat
11:10:36 am JaneBozarth: RT @mrch0mp3rs sitting on the data is a problem. Lifecycle mgmt of data always an issue.Think about your Gmail.I just deleted 2005. #lrnchat
11:10:44 am dawnladams: Who needs evidence to make assump? Usually only 1 comment. RT @C4LPT: Q2) Yes, because assumptions can be made on flimsy evidence. #lrnchat
11:10:45 am mrch0mp3rs: Q2) Here’s the other side of the coin: fear of the ethical issues resulting in avoidance doesn’t change the problem set #lrnchat
11:10:49 am LauraLJ: @janebozarth There are lies, damned lies and statistics #lrnchat
11:11:08 am LauraLJ: Q2) ethical issues with collecting learning data? only if misused #lrnchat
11:11:09 am RyanJSegrist: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q2) Here’s the other side of the coin: fear of the ethical issues resulting in avoidance doesn’t change the problem #lrnchat
11:11:14 am KristiBroom: Q2) do we ever know about all the data collected on us? Clicks on websites, satellite images. The ethics question goes beyond lrng #Lrnchat
11:11:15 am mrch0mp3rs: Q2) Also, worth noting, this is a very hard problem for which there will likely be no universal solution. #lrnchat
11:11:17 am npmaven: @barrydahl: Q2) Maybe the Q should be – is it unethical to sit on this mountain of student learning data and do nothing w/it? #lrnchat
11:11:18 am chettbradley: @JaneBozarth what would the answer be if we asked the ethical implications of collecting health info docs never used? #lrnchat
11:11:19 am JaneBozarth: Ethical? Buying an expensive LMS so you can get 96 reports you don’t intend to ever view? #lrnchat
11:11:26 am katridgely: RT @LauraLJ: @janebozarth There are lies, damned lies and statistics #lrnchat
11:11:27 am tenartemis: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q2) the other side of the coin: fear of the ethical issues resulting in avoidance doesnt change the problem set #lrnchat
11:11:30 am adfunkster: RT @LnDDave: Q2) Ethical concerns are one reason I don’t share data unless specifically asked for I share stories based on my data. #lrnchat
11:11:34 am LnDDave: Q2) Another ethical concern: Excel Exports are not data; they are COPIES of data that can be ALTERED. #lrnchat
11:11:40 am OpenSesameNow: Alarming thought. RT @janebozarth: What about learners who don’t know what we collect/what we have access to & keep? … #lrnchat
11:11:42 am Barb_D: RT @LauraLJ: Q2) ethical issues with collecting learning data? only if misused #lrnchat
11:11:47 am _Kavi: RT @LnDDave: Q2) Another ethical concern: Excel Exports are not data; they are COPIES of data that can be ALTERED. #lrnchat
11:11:48 am StephanieDaul: RT @JaneBozarth: Ethical? Buying an expensive LMS so you can get 96 reports you dont intend to ever view? #lrnchat
11:11:50 am rachelsparrow: computer is playing up – so bye for now. Really enjoyed reading the input! #lrnchat
11:11:56 am c4lpt: RT @JaneBozarth: Ethical? Buying an expensive LMS so you can get 96 reports you dont intend to ever view? <or actually need #lrnchat
11:11:59 am billcush: Would think thats everyone’s expectation…in a company. RT @_kavi: Q2) Does learner know that data is being collected ? #lrnchat
11:12:03 am TriciaRansom: Good point RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q2) Here’s the other side: fear of ethical issues resulting in avoidance doesn’t change problem #lrnchat
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11:12:12 am flowersprof: RT @KristiBroom: Q2) do we ever know about all the data collected on us? Clicks on websites, satellite images. The ethics question goes beyond lrng #Lrnchat
11:12:13 am scogill: RT @LnDDave: Q2) Another ethical concern: Excel Exports are not data; they are COPIES of data that can be ALTERED. #lrnchat
11:12:14 am katridgely: RT @LnDDave: Q2) Another ethical concern: Excel Exports are not data; they are COPIES of data that can be ALTERED. #lrnchat
11:12:14 am urbie: RT @npmaven @TriciaRansom Q2) Giving people opt-out rights #lrnchat good luck with that
11:12:34 am billcush: @lauralj @janebozarth Figures never lie…but liars sure can figure. #lrnchat
11:12:45 am mrch0mp3rs: Q2) There will be more wicked problems to deal with. The abundance of data we can’t control is something we need to get comfy with #lrnchat
11:12:47 am _Kavi: @RussMK Well I guess we havent reached that level of regulatory awareness in this part of the world ! #lrnchat
11:12:48 am chettbradley: RT @2GFred: Q2) Ethical issues arise from what you do or DON’T do with information. Is learning data turned into information? #lrnchat
11:12:50 am smarte_pants: RT @JaneBozarth: Ethical? Buying an expensive LMS so you can get 96 reports you dont intend to ever view? #lrnchat
11:12:51 am wls1961: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q2) There will be more wicked problems to deal with. The abundance of data we can’t control is something we need to get comfy with #lrnchat
11:12:53 am chettbradley: @2GFred good point #lrnchat
11:13:07 am wls1961: RT @billcush: @lauralj @janebozarth Figures never lie…but liars sure can figure. #lrnchat
11:13:12 am catherine_delia: RT @urbie: RT @npmaven @TriciaRansom Q2) Giving people opt-out rights #lrnchat good luck with that < agree #lrnchat
11:13:15 am mrch0mp3rs: Q2) Also something we need to get comfy with: forgiveness. You’re going to find stuff out about others you don’t want to know. #lrnchat
11:13:21 am katridgely: @urbie @npmaven @TriciaRansom well the problem with that too is you get the people who love or hate – not the inbetween. #lrnchat
11:13:21 am JudithELS: Feathers are being spat> RT @JaneBozarth: Ethical? Buying an expensive LMS so you can get 96 reports you dont intend to ever view? #lrnchat
11:13:34 am bschlenker: Hi #lrnchat! Sorry I’m late. Catching up now. Cheers! #lrnchat
11:13:44 am alc47: RT @KristiBroom: Q2) ethics Q is beyond lrng – if constrain selves to data about ability to perform is there an issue? #lrnchat
11:13:51 am StephanieDaul: We collect the data but do we ever change our behavior because it? I’ve never been asked to change a course based on lrn data #lrnchat
11:13:53 am LnDDave: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q2) Also, worth noting, this is a very hard problem for which there will likely be no universal solution. #lrnchat
11:13:54 am KristiBroom: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q2) There will be more wicked problems. The abundance of data we cant control is something we need 2 get comfy with #Lrnchat
11:13:56 am Tina_Barr: @bschlenker Welome! Better late than never! #lrnchat
11:14:01 am leavittm: RT @leahmacvie: Mobile tech may, in fact, change the way we learn: Content, Compute, Capture, Communicate. -Clark Quinn #lrnchat
11:14:03 am mrch0mp3rs: Q2) We’re goint to have to learn not to sweat the small stuff. You can’t have all this ubiquity and tailored services and not share #lrnchat
11:14:07 am ICTEvangelist: RT @MoodleMcKean: 5 Free iPhone Apps for the Classroom –SimpleK12 http://bit.ly/hoUdme #ipad #ipod #iphone #apps #edapp #mlearning #edtech #elearning #lrnchat
11:14:11 am betseymerkel: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q2) Also something we need to get comfy with: forgiveness. You’re going to find stuff out about others you don’t want to know. #lrnchat
11:14:19 am alc47: Q2 Is the real Q being asked here about the ethics of an LMS? #lrnchat
11:14:30 am ICTEvangelist: RT @MoodleMcKean: ICT – Those who can, tweet – Features – TES Connect http://bit.ly/g7uOcz #edtech #elearning #lrnchat #cpchat #edchat #tlchat
11:14:30 am JaneBozarth: I myself am a wicked problem. #lrnchat
11:14:43 am mrch0mp3rs: RT @JaneBozarth: I myself am a wicked problem. #lrnchat
11:14:45 am catherine_delia: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q2) We’re goint to have to learn not to sweat the small stuff. You can’t have all this ubiquity and tailored services and not share #lrnchat
11:14:45 am gjcannon: Q2) ethics = capturing data you analyse and then turn into action #lrnchat
11:14:51 am dawnladams: @ Cisco we have legalize on eval tools. RT @JaneBozarth: What about learners who don’t know what we collect, have access to, keep? #lrnchat
11:14:58 am Barb_D: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q2) Were goint to have to learn not to sweat the small stuff. <<ah.. but what IS the small stuff…? #lrnchat
11:15:05 am 2GFred: add Comply? RT @leavittm: RT @leahmacvie: Mobile tech maychange the way we learn: Content, Compute, Capture, Communicate #lrnchat
11:15:10 am LnDDave: Q2) I don’t think collecting data is unethical. It’s how we collect it and how the data is used that raises ethical concerns. #lrnchat
11:15:15 am Barb_D: @JaneBozarth LOL #lrnchat
11:15:26 am KristiBroom: @alc47 Good question. Feels like the answer should be no concerns about perf data, but I’m seeing lots of concerns. #Lrnchat
11:15:36 am LnDDave: RT @bschlenker: Hi #lrnchat! Sorry I’m late. Catching up now. Cheers! <Hi Brent!
11:15:41 am bschlenker: @mrch0mp3rs Q2) I’m a big fan of forgiveness. Been afraid to mention as I didn’t want people to roll eyes at me 😉 #lrnchat
11:15:44 am Dave_Ferguson: @dawnladams Legalese is always in plentiful supply. Demand, though, is variable. #lrnchat
11:15:50 am betseymerkel: @mrch0mp3rs Q2) There’ll be more wicked problems to deal w/. Abundance of data we can’t control’s something we need 2get comfy w/ #lrnchat
11:15:53 am lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:15:55 am RyanJSegrist: @LnDDave Q2) I agree. The actual “collection” is morally neutral. #lrnchat
11:16:04 am _Kavi: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:16:11 am RyanJSegrist: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:16:13 am KristiBroom: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #Lrnchat
11:16:13 am InfoAtOCP: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:16:16 am c4lpt: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:16:19 am mrch0mp3rs: Good follow-up by @Barb_D: What is the small stuff? < The small stuff is whatever is not vitally important to the context, IMHO #lrnchat
11:16:21 am alc47: @KristiBroom Exactly. How people learn is not our issue – except to help them – the key is the outcome #lrnchat
11:16:23 am Barb_D: RT @RyanJSegrist: @LnDDave Q2) I agree. The actual “collection” is morally neutral. #lrnchat
11:16:23 am JudithELS: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:16:23 am bschlenker: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:16:27 am TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:16:28 am Barb_D: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:16:32 am KatieStroudPro: RT @janebozarth: Ethical? Buying an expensive LMS so you can get 96 reports you don’t intend to ever view? #lrnchat
11:16:48 am katridgely: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:16:50 am chettbradley: Very true! RT @leavittm: @chettbradley also implications for healthcare employers – continued/denied accreditation, fines #lrnchat
11:16:53 am 2GFred: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:16:54 am LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:16:57 am billcush: @_kavi Should be disclosed up front, right. People should be told how…I think. #lrnchat
11:17:06 am JaneBozarth: q3 Formative: usability testing, watching learners, testing along the way, including learners in design and tryout phases #lrnchat
11:17:11 am urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:17:16 am JaneBozarth: RT @leavittm: @chettbradley also implications for healthcare employers – continued/denied accreditation, fines #lrnchat
11:17:21 am TriciaRansom: Q3) Ok, I’ll admit it – I have no idea what this question means. What is formative and summative data? #lrnchat
11:17:26 am alc47: RT RT @janebozarth: Ethical? Buying an expensive LMS so you can get 96 reports you dont intend to ever view? Agreed #lrnchat
11:17:31 am Dave_Ferguson: @janebozarth In my skeptical experience, the decision makers viewed the LMS reports. Once. At the sales pitch. #lrnchat
11:17:36 am bschlenker: aside) Seeing lots of new faces today! Great to meet you all! #lrnchat
11:17:39 am mrch0mp3rs: @bschlenker I love that Don Henley song #lrnchat
11:17:42 am RyanJSegrist: RT @TriciaRansom: Q3) Ok, I’ll admit it – I have no idea what this question means. What is formative and summative data? #lrnchat <Me too!
11:17:44 am Barb_D: RT @TriciaRansom: Q3) Ok, Ill admit it – I have no idea what this question means. What is formative and summative data? <TY! #lrnchat
11:17:56 am chettbradley: Re: ethics – how many here have had formal training in ethical practice and/or psychometrics? #lrnchat
11:18:05 am StephanieDaul: Q3) I would love to say we collect formative but we never change anything…even during a pilot program #lrnchat
11:18:10 am Barb_D: @bschlenker Hiya! 🙂 #lrnchat
11:18:12 am LauraLJ: Does Data Protection Act (UK) give guidelines on collecting data ref: Q2) #lrnchat
11:18:13 am billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:18:19 am _Kavi: Q3) Theres some data in the numbers. How many ? Who all ? Who did ? How long? Real data is at the work place! “Whats changed ?” #lrnchat
11:18:22 am Dave_Ferguson: @TriciaRansom Formative: as things are happening (like feedback during a course). Summative: afterward (like post-course). #lrnchat
11:18:22 am mrch0mp3rs: RT @chettbradley: Re: ethics – how many here have had formal training in ethical practice and/or psychometrics? #lrnchat
11:18:23 am dawnjmahoney: Q2) Some projects/not all. True ISD & ADDIE only present sum of the time #lrnchat
11:18:25 am KatieStroudPro: Q3) currently not collecting any data. Clients all in development mode. #lrnchat
11:18:31 am LnDDave: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? < I like to watch (Keep the context people…) #lrnchat
11:18:33 am web20education: RT @MoodleMcKean: ICT – Those who can, tweet – Features – TES Connect http://bit.ly/g7uOcz #edtech #elearning #lrnchat #cpchat #edchat #tlchat
11:18:39 am KatieStroudPro: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:18:46 am JaneBozarth: RT @Barb_D: RT @TriciaRansom: Formative = tasting soup as you prepare it. Summative = tasting after it’s served. #lrnchat
11:18:57 am JudithELS: Q3) We’re not but many of our clients are, via feedback Qs (formative) and tests/workbooks (summative). #lrnchat
11:18:59 am bschlenker: RT @Barb_D: @bschlenker Hiya! 🙂 <Hi Barb! #lrnchat
11:19:18 am cahlan: Q3) formative: during the learning process, summative: after the learning process (after the fact) #lrnchat
11:19:29 am dawnladams: RT @c4lpt: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:19:33 am RyanJSegrist: Q3 We collect summative data with evaluation surveys. Very Bleah #lrnchat
11:19:38 am OpenSesameNow: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @Barb_D: RT @TriciaRansom: Formative = tasting soup as you prepare it. Summative = tasting after it’s served. #lrnchat
11:19:40 am JaneBozarth: Agree RT @LnDDave: < I like to watch (Keep the context people…) #lrnchat
11:19:43 am LnDDave: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @TriciaRansom Formative: as things are happening (like feedback during a course). Summative: afterward (like post-course). #lrnchat
11:19:51 am onsSara: Hello all, joining late #lrnchat
11:19:51 am KristiBroom: Q3) we collect formative during proofs of concept and pilots, and summative after. Lots of surveys/reactions #Lrnchat
11:19:56 am dawnjmahoney: Q3) How:Smiley sheets, focus group, survey, OJT observation, interviews-before, during & after pilot #lrnchat
11:19:58 am urbie: #lrnchat Q3 formative/summative: depends on the course.. could be on the gunnery range, practice in class, online asssessment, observation
11:19:59 am lingsc: RT @MoodleMcKean: ICT – Those who can, tweet – Features – TES Connect http://bit.ly/g7uOcz #edtech #elearning #lrnchat #cpchat #edchat #tlchat
11:20:10 am JaneBozarth: Summative eval= summation. After it’s over. Formative: as it is being developed, before people finish course, etc. #lrnchat
11:20:10 am bschlenker: @LauraLJ Those puppies are darn cute! Dang! there goes my ADD again 😉 What’s the question? #lrnchat
11:20:10 am tenartemis: Q3) while I tailor learning based on formative, most data that’s collected and stored is summative #lrnchat
11:20:14 am Barb_D: We use a volunteer focus group to review our courses, then we review the test results and eval (smile sheets) after #lrnchat
11:20:21 am c4lpt: Q3) Formative = en route; summative = end of journey #lrnchat
11:20:32 am MimiBarbara: Q3) Hit and miss on collection of formative and summative data. #lrnchat
11:20:34 am KatieStroudPro: RT @TriciaRansom: Q3) Ok, I’ll admit it – I have no idea what this question means. What is formative and summative data? #lrnchat
11:20:41 am kelly_smith01: Q3) I have done much formative evaluation – not always sure of how we handled reliability but validity was addressed strong #lrnchat
11:20:44 am Barb_D: RT @JaneBozarth: Formative = tasting soup as you prepare it. Summative = tasting after its served. #lrnchat
11:20:44 am LnDDave: Q3) I stop talking and start listening. #lrnchat
11:20:45 am JaneBozarth: Q3 Blogs, wikis, other social tools good for intersession reflective work = good for getting formative info #lrnchat
11:20:51 am bschlenker: RT @c4lpt: Q3) Formative = en route; summative = end of journey <Well played! #lrnchat
11:20:54 am Dave_Ferguson: Formative: hey, we’re making good time. Summative: Cleveland? I was heading to Denver! #lrnchat
11:21:01 am mrch0mp3rs: RT @JaneBozarth: Q3 Blogs, wikis, other social tools good for intersession reflective work = good for getting formative info #lrnchat
11:21:03 am KatieStroudPro: RT @c4lpt: Q3) Formative = en route; summative = end of journey #lrnchat
11:21:05 am billcush: Q3) Summative data: obtain perf reports the biz already produces: sales figures, calls per hour, quality scores, etc. #lrnchat
11:21:10 am allthingsnoisy: Q3) Each course has a pass/fail score (formative). Our summative eval is whether or not they pass enough courses to gain cert #lrnchat
11:21:12 am dbolen: Q3 depends on course, full motion simulator formative and then used for debrief #lrnchat
11:21:14 am _Kavi: Q3) I always have a group discussion with learners post ‘event’ with the learners ! There is a wealth of info in listening in! #lrnchat
11:21:17 am JaneBozarth: Q3. Last week we… how have you used, what have you seen… ? #lrnchat
11:21:24 am Tina_Barr: Heading out for lunch. Thanks for the #lrnchat
11:21:30 am StephanieDaul: RT @LnDDave: Q3) I stop talking and start listening. <would love to see more of that going on!> #lrnchat
11:21:35 am bschlenker: RT @JaneBozarth: Q3 Blogs, wikis, other social tools good for intersession reflective work = good for getting formative info <like! #lrnchat
11:21:44 am chettbradley: RT @JaneBozarth: I myself am a wicked problem. #lrnchat Love it!d
11:21:45 am c4lpt: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Formative: hey, were making good time. Summative: Cleveland? I was heading to Denver! #lrnchat
11:21:46 am JaneBozarth: Evaluation data should be used to IMprove, not just prove. Am I really the only one who thinks that? #lrnchat
11:21:47 am _Kavi: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @Barb_D: RT @TriciaRansom: Formative = tasting soup as you prepare it. Summative = tasting after it’s served. #lrnchat
11:21:49 am KristiBroom: LOL! RT @Dave_Ferguson: Formative: hey, were making good time. Summative: Cleveland? I was heading to Denver! #Lrnchat
11:21:52 am bschlenker: @Tina_Barr Bye, Tina! See ya next week! #lrnchat
11:22:03 am RyanJSegrist: Q3 Much of our education is always being revised and improved. It blurs the line btw formative and summative #lrnchat
11:22:17 am JudithELS: RT @JaneBozarth: Evaluation data should be used to IMprove, not just prove. Am I really the only one who thinks that? <NO #lrnchat
11:22:22 am bschlenker: RT @KristiBroom: LOL! RT @Dave_Ferguson: Formative: hey, were making good time. Summative: Cleveland? I was heading to Denver! #lrnchat
11:22:25 am KatieStroudPro: RT @KristiBroom: LOL! RT @Dave_Ferguson: Formative: hey, were making good time. Summative: Cleveland? I was heading to Denver! #Lrnchat
11:22:27 am alc47: RT @StephanieDaul: Q3) I stop talking and start listening. <would love to see more of that going on!>better than gathering data #lrnchat
11:22:30 am c4lpt: Q3) So since most people’s learning never ends it’s about constantly seeing how they are doing on the job – are they still en route #lrnchat
11:22:31 am kkapp: @JaneBozarth Evaluation data should be used to IMprove, not just prove. Am I really the only one who thinks that? #lrnchat with u on that!
11:22:32 am AndreaMay1: We collect a lot of summative data about training success by monitoring trends in help desk issues after software implementations. #lrnchat
11:22:33 am _Kavi: Me AGREE ! RT @JaneBozarth: Evaluation data should be used to IMprove, not just prove. Am I really the only one who thinks that? #lrnchat
11:22:50 am Barb_D: RT @RyanJSegrist: Q3 Much of our education is always being revised and improved. << Ours Too! #lrnchat
11:22:58 am JaneBozarth: @_Kavi Hi Kavi always good to see you! #lrnchat
11:22:59 am KristiBroom: Q3) formative: good to be f2f where possible to get multiple levels of reaction and for quick changes #Lrnchat
11:23:00 am LauraLJ: RT @JaneBozarth: Evaluation data should be used to IMprove, not just prove. Am I really the only one who thinks that? #lrnchat
11:23:08 am dawnladams: Q3) Formative during dev-concept doc,design doc,alpha,beta,pilot. Summative-Metrics That Matter#lrnchat
11:23:11 am npmaven: Nope. RT @JaneBozarth: Evaluation data should be used to IMprove, not just prove. Am I really the only one who thinks that? #lrnchat
11:23:17 am chettbradley: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:23:20 am adfunkster: I agree! RT @JaneBozarth: Evaluation data should be used to IMprove, not just prove. Am I really the only one who thinks that? #lrnchat
11:23:22 am JaneBozarth: RT @KristiBroom: Q3) formative: good to be f2f where possible to get multiple levels of reaction and for quick changes #lrnchat
11:23:24 am mrch0mp3rs: Q3) Activity Streams/paradata are formative. Look at facebook: you “liked” something.; Kindle: you highlight and take notes. #lrnchat
11:23:26 am kelly_smith01: RT JaneBozarth:‎ Evaluation data should be used to IMprove, not just prove. Am I really the only one who thinks that? #lrnchat
11:23:33 am LnDDave: Q3) Formative: “My car is running like cr@p…”; Summative, from a mechanic: “Your car needs a new engine”. #lrnchat
11:23:46 am billcush: Nope. RT @janebozarth: Evaluation data should be used to IMprove, not just prove. Am I really the only one who thinks that? #lrnchat
11:23:48 am MimiBarbara: Q3) Design shop started focusing on formative eval last year. Still trying to figure out how to manage long-term. #lrnchat
11:23:49 am JudithELS: Using evaluation data to ‘prove’ anything is fraught with problems & is greatly abused. #lrnchat
11:23:58 am onsSara: Q3) I do formative= discussion posts, learning checkpoints (‘tho data not retained on this one) #lrnchat
11:24:09 am _Kavi: Great to chat with you Jane ! 😀 RT @JaneBozarth: @_Kavi Hi Kavi always good to see you! #lrnchat
11:24:13 am LnDDave: RT @JaneBozarth: Evaluation data should be used to IMprove, not just prove. Am I really the only one who thinks that? #lrnchat
11:24:13 am chettbradley: Really? By nature or by design? RT @Barb_D: RT @RyanJSegrist: @LnDDave Q2) I agree. The actual “collection” is morally neutral. #lrnchat
11:24:18 am StephanieDaul: Q3) my organization it still complete design and move on…check it off the list. We really just do the summative #lrnchat
11:24:19 am bschlenker: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q3) Activity Streams/paradata are formative. Look at facebook: you “liked”.; Kindle: highlight and take notes. #lrnchat
11:24:19 am LauraLJ: RT @janebozarth :Evaluation data should be used to IMprove, not just prove. #lrnchat >> with you there
11:24:29 am Dave_Ferguson: @LnDDave Summative from car dealer: “You need a new car.” Of course, for him, that’s formative, too. #lrnchat
11:24:32 am c4lpt: RT @JaneBozarth: Evaluation data should be used to IMprove, not just prove. Am I really the only one who thinks that? <I agree #lrnchat
11:24:39 am JaneBozarth: Ok back to Q1 Do people revise based on data collected? Did you fix temperature in room ppl have complained about since 1983? #lrnchat
11:24:39 am katridgely: #lrnchat fire alarms going off – gotta go!
11:24:53 am JaneBozarth: RT @StephanieDaul: Q3) my org it still complete design and move on…check it off the list. We really just do the summative #lrnchat
11:25:09 am mrch0mp3rs: Q3) Note to self – I need to start explaining paradata more in terms of formative data for broader instructional crowds #lrnchat
11:25:15 am adfunkster: #lrnchat evaluating and improving should be a never ending process. It’s the bushiness of learning we are in.
11:25:18 am nimblecopy: RT @learnchat Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:25:21 am dawnjmahoney: RT @StephanieDaul: Q3) my organization it still complete design; move on…check it off the list. We really just do the summative #lrnchat
11:25:23 am billcush: That’s excellent! Issues should drop after training. RT @andreamay1: …monitor help desk issues after software implementations. #lrnchat
11:25:25 am StephanieDaul: RT @LauraLJ: RT @janebozarth :Evaluation data should be used to IMprove, not just prove. #lrnchat >> with you there #lrnchat
11:25:39 am kelly_smith01: Q3) You can use Twitter (if you have a plan) for formative and summative evaluation. #lrnchat
11:25:40 am dawnjmahoney: RT @LnDDave: RT @JaneBozarth: Evaluation data should be used to IMprove, not just prove. Am I really the only one who thinks that? #lrnchat
11:25:59 am dawnjmahoney: RT @MimiBarbara: Q3) Design shop started focusing on formative eval last year. Still trying to figure out how to manage long-term. #lrnchat
11:26:03 am RyanJSegrist: @chettbradley I think by nature. When you add an intentionality for using the data, then it starts to get into ethics #lrnchat
11:26:05 am npmaven: @janebozarth Finding that the ‘iMprove’ motive is harder to sell than it should be. 😉 But absolutely, I agree. #lrnchat
11:26:05 am bschlenker: Q3) Formative = repetition, 30secs, 2hours…| Summative = TEN YEARS – Dr. Medina (short to long term memory) #lrnchat
11:26:07 am KatieStroudPro: RT @JaneBozarth: Ok back to Q1 Do people revise based on data collected? Did you fix temperature in room ppl have complained about since 1983? #lrnchat
11:26:10 am alc47: RT @c4lpt: Q3) If peoples learning never ends issue is seeing how they perform – are they still en route. Formative only internal #lrnchat
11:26:12 am Barb_D: RT @adfunkster: #lrnchat evaluating and improving should be a never ending process. Its the business of learning we are in. #lrnchat
11:26:23 am scogill: #lrnchat @JaneBozarth Q1 – it took 5 yrs but we just reorganized the furniture in our training room to actually be comfortable for a class!
11:26:27 am ourfounder: RT @maritzavdh: Reduce to speed up! T @JudithELS: Q0) I’ve learned this week that I can produce better work when I slow down a bit! #lrnchat #pkflow
11:26:28 am adfunkster: #lrnchat finding effective forms of form.. and summ.. evaluation is the trick. forms that will tell you what you need to know to improve.
11:26:30 am 2GFred: @JaneBozarth room temp s/b formative not summative. Why have that Q on smile sheet collected at end? too late! #lrnchat
11:26:30 am onsSara: q3) Our summative=immediate post course eval, 6 mo. checkin w/students re: their personal dev. action plan #lrnchat
11:26:32 am JaneBozarth: @mrch0mp3rs start now? #lrnchat
11:26:33 am tenartemis: @JaneBozarth Is the temperature change in the room going to increase profit? If yes, we will change. #lrnchat
11:26:35 am MimiBarbara: Q3) Today lead ID is in charge of formative evaluation while course is under design. #lrnchat
11:26:39 am chettbradley: Q3 due to complexities, rely on mbrs/anec. to ID gross gaps. then refine with focus groups. #lrnchat
11:26:45 am npmaven: Too familiar RT @StephanieDaul: Q3) my organization it still complete design; move on…check it off the list. We just do summative #lrnchat
11:26:53 am _Kavi: Q3) Data can be diced to death! Statistics being the lampost to the drunkard, Not for light but for support, is famous #lrnchat
11:27:07 am LauraLJ: #lrnchat learning programmes living and breathing things always evolving. Use data to help them grow not whither and die
11:27:07 am urbie: #lrnchat Q3 summative assessments: a car that instructor can make skid — the student recovers safely, or..
11:27:09 am dawnjmahoney: RT @JaneBozarth:back to Q1 lolololo #lrnchat
11:27:13 am dawnladams: If not revising don’t ask question. Timeframe a factor too.RT @JaneBozarth: Ok back to Q1 Do people revise based on data collected?#lrnchat
11:27:16 am scogill: #lrnchat Q3) I’m on a global team who hands content to regional teams in hope that they implement and measure
11:27:35 am JaneBozarth: I really am curious: Do orgs use all that data towards revising and improving? #lrnchat
11:27:42 am lisacrispin: RT @maritzavdh: Reduce to speed up! T @JudithELS: Q0) I’ve learned this week that I can produce better work when I slow down a bit! #lrnchat #pkflow
11:27:51 am 2GFred: RT @_Kavi: Q3) Data can be diced to death! Statistics being the lampost to the drunkard, Not for light but for support, is famous #lrnchat
11:27:51 am Dave_Ferguson: @tenartemis You would think “increase profit” would be a cure-all for corporate ill. But then there’s General Motors. #lrnchat
11:27:54 am cahlan: Gotta go, great discussion. Shameless plug for our learning analytics gathering & reporting tool: (http://enfuseanalytics.com) #lrnchat
11:28:10 am JaneBozarth: Summative evaluation = evaluation by autopsy. Examine after the patient has died… #lrnchat
11:28:12 am StephanieDaul: Q3) Do some of our CLOs even know why you would do both? #lrnchat
11:28:15 am LnDDave: edited: RT @JaneBozarth: I really am curious: Do orgs use ANY that data towards revising and improving? #lrnchat
11:28:18 am InfoAtOCP: RT @JaneBozarth: I really am curious: Do orgs use all that data towards revising and improving? #lrnchat <-We do, else what’s the point?
11:28:22 am mrch0mp3rs: Q3) Everytime a learner asks a question in a class, hits google to clarify in context of a learning activity — it’s formative #lrnchat
11:28:37 am nimblecopy: Q3) I don’t always have access to learners through my clients, but when possible I interview them & get valuable improvement ideas. #lrnchat
11:28:40 am Dave_Ferguson: @scogill “In hope?!?” #lrnchat
11:28:45 am dawnjmahoney: RT @dawnladams: If not revising dont ask question. Timeframe a factor too. |here! Here! #lrnchat
11:28:49 am _Kavi: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q3) Everytime a learner asks a question in a class, hits google to clarify in context of a learning activity — it’s formative #lrnchat
11:29:09 am Barb_D: RT @LnDDave: edited: RT @JaneBozarth: I really am curious: Do orgs use ANY that data towards revising and improving? < We do. #lrnchat
11:29:11 am mrch0mp3rs: Q3) Your after-action review is a summative evaluation. What did we do? What worked? What could we IMPROVE #lrnchat
11:29:11 am c4lpt: RT @JaneBozarth: Summative evaluation = evaluation by autopsy. Examine after the patient has died… <LOL #lrnchat
11:29:14 am KatieStroudPro: RT @2GFred: RT @_Kavi: Q3) Data can be diced to death! Statistics being the lampost to the drunkard, Not for light but for support, is famous #lrnchat
11:29:28 am scogill: #lrnchat when I delivered our 1wk new hire program I’d get feedback when we took the class out to dinner & made improvements based on that
11:29:29 am _Kavi: Awesome ! RT @JaneBozarth: Summative evaluation = evaluation by autopsy. Examine after the patient has died… #lrnchat
11:29:38 am LauraLJ: RT @JaneBozarth: I really am curious: Do orgs use all that data towards revising and improving? #lrnchat
11:29:38 am LnDDave: RT @JaneBozarth: Summative evaluation = evaluation by autopsy. Examine after the patient has died… #lrnchat
11:29:41 am chettbradley: @RyanJSegrist perhaps – but what if a handy “use” only becomes apparent after the fact? unless IDs gross trends only… danger #lrnchat
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11:29:52 am ddrrnt: RT @simbeckhampson: Making sense of the data is work. Collective intelligence is the future. Combining AI and HI. #insights feed #success #lrnchat
11:29:52 am dawnladams: No. But time,resources,money,value dictate improve. RT @C4LPT: RT @JaneBozarth: Eval data s/be used to IMprove, not just prove. #lrnchat
11:30:08 am Dave_Ferguson: The less orgs use eval data to improve processes, likelier they are to believe in sage-on-the-stage / sheep-dip training. #lrnchat
11:30:14 am JaneBozarth: To @mrch0mp3rs ‘s excellent point: How many do after-action reviews? #lrnchat
11:30:18 am lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:30:27 am dawnjmahoney: RT @JaneBozarth: I really m curious: Do orgs use data towards revising & improving?|Sales Compliance Regulatory Mortality-some yes #lrnchat
11:30:28 am _Kavi: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:30:29 am KatieStroudPro: RT @_kavi: Awesome ! RT @JaneBozarth: Summative evaluation = evaluation by autopsy. Examine after the patient has died… #lrnchat
11:30:40 am JaneBozarth: @dawnladams no, eval data shouldn’t be used to improve? really? #lrnchat
11:30:40 am npmaven: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:30:43 am jpb_ellicom: RT @JaneBozarth: Summative evaluation = evaluation by autopsy. Examine after the patient has died… #lrnchat
11:30:47 am KristiBroom: We do RT @JaneBozarth: To @mrch0mp3rs s excellent point: How many do after-action reviews? #Lrnchat
11:30:48 am RyanJSegrist: @chettbradley Good point. I can’t help parsing it out though. I was a philosopher in another life… #lrnchat
11:30:49 am 2GFred: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:30:52 am LauraLJ: RT@JaneBozarth I really am curious: Do orgs use all that data towards revising and improving? #lrnchat… very unlikely
11:30:53 am Barb_D: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:30:55 am KristiBroom: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #Lrnchat
11:30:56 am LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:30:59 am JudithELS: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:31:02 am KatieStroudPro: RT @janebozarth: I really am curious: Do orgs use all that data towards revising and improving? #lrnchat <–the training or the business?
11:31:02 am JaneBozarth: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:31:07 am c4lpt: Q3) If we see learning as ongoing and not as ad hoc events thats why performance data is more valuable #lrnchat
11:31:09 am billcush: Bye all-y’all. Gotta go. #lrnchat
11:31:12 am _Kavi: Q4) Do we measure conversations over coffee ? #lrnchat
11:31:19 am mrch0mp3rs: Q3) the more granular you can collect, the more often you collect, the more evidence you build of what and how learning takes place #lrnchat
11:31:24 am c4lpt: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:31:24 am dawnjmahoney: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:31:25 am urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:31:26 am JaneBozarth: @RyanJSegrist How did that pay? #lrnchat
11:31:31 am KatieStroudPro: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:31:33 am dawnladams: No. Most use as measuring stick to reach goal. RT @JaneBozarth: Do orgs use all that data towards revising and improving? #lrnchat
11:31:34 am JaneBozarth: RT @c4lpt: Q3) If we see learning as ongoing and not as ad hoc events thats why performance data is more valuable #lrnchat
11:31:48 am 2GFred: those conversing do. 🙂 RT @_Kavi: Q4) Do we measure conversations over coffee ? #lrnchat
11:31:49 am barrydahl: Q4) Colleges give credit 4 life exper, or things learned on the job. Why would informal/social learning not get the same treatment? #lrnchat
11:31:50 am derekwwade: Afraid I have to jump off, all – just when the informal learning fun starts too! #lrnchat
11:31:50 am JaneBozarth: If L&D could find way to get ‘credit’ for it… RT @_Kavi: Q4) Do we measure conversations over coffee ? #lrnchat
11:31:57 am mSenbetta: Why not pass measurement to the leader to see if performance has improved? #lrnchat
11:32:07 am dawnjmahoney: RT @_Kavi: Q4)Do we measure conversations over coffee?|M w/Kavi. Informal lng in halls has happened 4ever. No measurement #lrnchat
11:32:08 am LnDDave: Q4) It’s about measuring performance changes; we can always backtrack to what influenced the change. #lrnchat
11:32:13 am RyanJSegrist: @JaneBozarth You know the expression about starving philosophers? It’s true! #lrnchat
11:32:14 am c4lpt: Q4) Whoooa don’t even go there! Social activity data is as meaningless as LMS data #lrnchat
11:32:15 am mrch0mp3rs: Q3) The collection of all this formative data (paradata) leads to the ethical questions. #lrnchat
11:32:15 am Dave_Ferguson: @mrch0mp3rs I’m a fan of data, but if you get too granular, you end up with bags of beach sand. Don’t collect just b/c you CAN. #lrnchat
11:32:22 am _Kavi: LOL RT @JaneBozarth: If L&D could find way to get ‘credit’ for it… RT @_Kavi: Q4) Do we measure conversations over coffee ? #lrnchat
11:32:23 am mrch0mp3rs: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @mrch0mp3rs I’m a fan of data, but if you get too granular, you end up with bags of beach sand. Don’t collect just b/c you CAN. #lrnchat
11:32:31 am KristiBroom: Depends who paid for the coffee 😉 RT @_Kavi: Q4) Do we measure conversations over coffee ? #Lrnchat
11:32:32 am JaneBozarth: @derekwwade The informal learning fun started at 11:30 ET 🙂 #lrnchat
11:32:43 am JaneBozarth: RT @Dave_Ferguson Im a fan of data, but if you get too granular, you end up with bags of beach sand. Dont collect just b/c you CAN. #lrnchat
11:32:50 am mrch0mp3rs: @Dave_Ferguson To my last point, that’s gets to the ethics. Why collect what will not be used? #lrnchat
11:32:53 am OpenSesameNow: Q4) You could measure employees’ subjective perception of the acceleration of the access to info, morale, are they having fun? #lrnchat
11:32:54 am _Kavi: LOL RT @KristiBroom: Depends who paid for the coffee 😉 RT @_Kavi: Q4) Do we measure conversations over coffee ? #Lrnchat
11:32:57 am JaneBozarth: RT @c4lpt: Q4) Whoooa dont even go there! Social activity data is as meaningless as LMS data #lrnchat
11:32:59 am nimblecopy: @scogill Yes, you get many ideas for improving the training when you get the learners together in a group..consensus and compromise #lrnchat
11:32:59 am alc47: Q4 The answer is still the same – what is happening to business and individual performance #lrnchat
11:33:03 am JudithELS: Too right! RT @c4lpt: Q4) Whoooa dont even go there! Social activity data is as meaningless as LMS data #lrnchat
11:33:09 am chettbradley: @RyanJSegrist would love to get to that point! #lrnchat
11:33:10 am Barb_D: RT @mrch0mp3rs Im a fan of data, but if you get too granular, you end up with bags of beach sand. Dont collect just b/c you CAN. #lrnchat
11:33:10 am KatieStroudPro: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat <–indeed, how?
11:33:11 am scogill: #lrnchat Q4) we’ve tried tracking conversations / job shadowing – it gets out of hand and there is no standard!
11:33:11 am LauraLJ: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:33:20 am _Kavi: 🙂 RT @2GFred: those conversing do. 🙂 RT @_Kavi: Q4) Do we measure conversations over coffee ? #lrnchat
11:33:36 am sparkandco: RT @dawnjmahoney: RT @LnDDave: RT @JaneBozarth: Evaluation data should be used to IMprove, not just prove. Am I really the only one who thinks that? #lrnchat
11:33:37 am LnDDave: RT @c4lpt: Q4) Whoooa don’t even go there! Social activity data is as meaningless as LMS data #lrnchat
11:33:40 am urbie: #lrnchat Q4 measuring informal/social learning.. damn straight we should: how?.. indirectly: noisy breakrooms after a change; observe later
11:33:41 am kelly_smith01: Q4) Evaluation of informal/social learning seems to fall into a non-statistical area – relates more to motivation – self-reliance #lrnchat
11:33:48 am Dave_Ferguson: @mrch0mp3rs Even short of ethics, just plain efficiency. I collected lotsa data in tryouts of online courses; little after rollout. #lrnchat
11:33:49 am barrydahl: Q4) Unfortunately, when colleges give credit for things other than a class – you almost have to take a class to get the credit. #lrnchat
11:33:51 am dawnjmahoney: And m OK not measuring what doesnt need to be. N my world I care abt Compliance & Regulatory measures getting more consistent #lrnchat
11:33:51 am JaneBozarth: RT @2GFred: those conversing do. 🙂 RT @_Kavi: Q4) Do we measure conversations over coffee ? #lrnchat
11:34:14 am Dave_Ferguson: (well, okay, much less, rather than “little”) #lrnchat
11:34:19 am RyanJSegrist: @chettbradley I wish you luck! I tried but couldn’t feed myself on it #lrnchat
11:34:19 am nimblecopy: RT @lrnchat Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:34:22 am mSenbetta: Measuring informal and social learning!! Humm, is that formalizing it totally chaning the intent #lrnchat
11:34:28 am Barb_D: q4) You HEAR the feedback, but is it measurable? I think it is more real-world reference to support other data #lrnchat
11:34:28 am bschlenker: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:34:29 am LauraLJ: #lrnchat Q4) measuring informal learning? not in the sense we currently measure otherwise we’ll kill it
11:34:32 am KristiBroom: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @mrch0mp3rs Im a fan of data, if u get 2 granular, u end up w/ bags of beach sand. Dont collect just b/c u CAN. #Lrnchat
11:34:38 am dawnladams: Q4: Social/informal-old metrics don’t apply. Need to show biz impact to enable use. Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:34:39 am KatieStroudPro: Q4) I feel challenged. Going to have to think about this one. How to measure social/informal learning… #lrnchat
11:34:52 am JaneBozarth: @barrydahl that is why a workplace learning experience should be more clearly distinguished from an academic ‘course’ #lrnchat
11:35:03 am _Kavi: RT @JaneBozarth: @barrydahl that is why a workplace learning experience should be more clearly distinguished from an academic ‘course’ #lrnchat
11:35:16 am KristiBroom: RT @alc47: Q4 The answer is still the same – what is happening to business and individual performance #Lrnchat
11:35:21 am mrch0mp3rs: @JaneBozarth @C4LPT I disagree a little; have to consider the purposes of an LMS. Might be useful if it makes sense of the data. #lrnchat
11:35:23 am JaneBozarth: Then won’t it go away? LOL RT @LauraLJ: measuring informal learning? not in sense we currently measure otherwise we’ll kill it #lrnchat
11:35:32 am RyanJSegrist: RT @JaneBozarth: @barrydahl that’s why workplace learning should be more clearly distinguished from an academic ‘course’ #lrnchat
11:35:37 am bschlenker: RT @JaneBozarth: @barrydahl that is why a workplace learning experience should be more clearly distinguished from a “course” #lrnchat
11:36:04 am JaneBozarth: Had prof once who graded based on # of posts to discuss. board. Friend’s goal was to have 100 meaningless posts. Nice shirt, Jane. #lrnchat
11:36:12 am urbie: #lrnchat Q4 measuring informal/social learning how-to: like this: http://t.co/Xpx7PZn — with an iPad or iPhone, an app, facebook, twitter..
11:36:21 am mrch0mp3rs: Q4) Along with previous set of wicked problems, we have to re-examine what we mean by “measure.” Not interested in counting tweets #lrnchat
11:36:24 am StephanieDaul: @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:36:31 am c4lpt: RT @alc47: Q4 The answer is still the same – what is happening to business and individual performance #lrnchat
11:36:37 am RyanJSegrist: Q4 OJT usually seems to be more outcome-directed. Shouldn’t it be easier to measure in a utilitarian sense? #lrnchat
11:36:42 am JaneBozarth: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4)… we have to re-examine what we mean by “measure.” Not interested in counting tweets #lrnchat
11:36:53 am scogill: #lrnchat Q4) isn’t it part of social lrning to build an environment- nurture it- and let go? measuring every little detail isn’t letting go!
11:36:56 am _Kavi: Q4) learners always know how to get you data for data’s sake ! #lrnchat
11:37:00 am nimblecopy: Q4) Get feedback about informal learning in an informal way…through conversations…interviews or online communications. #lrnchat
11:37:02 am Barb_D: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4) Along with previous set of wicked problems, we have to re-examine what we mean by “measure.” #lrnchat
11:37:04 am Dave_Ferguson: @JaneBozarth Oh, nowadays there are entire web sites filled with nothing but meaningless posts. #lrnchat
11:37:07 am LauraLJ: RT @c4lpt Q3) If we see learning as ongoing and not as ad hoc event……..#lrnchat >> need to think learning not training.
11:37:11 am MimiBarbara: Q4) Still trying to decide if social learning impact on performance is measurable. #lrnchat
11:37:18 am mrch0mp3rs: Q4) Very interested in seeing how ideas spread in an org over time. We can measure that. It’s valuable. #lrnchat
11:37:24 am bschlenker: Q4) I remember hearing about a Management/Leadership course that required mandatory blogging. <faceinhands> #lrnchat
11:37:25 am JaneBozarth: Have book somewhere that talks about ‘karma points’: adding to discussion, encouraging further thinking, engaging at deep level… #lrnchat
11:37:26 am tenartemis: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4) we have to re-examine what we mean by “measure.” Not interested in counting tweets #lrnchat
11:37:29 am dawnjmahoney: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4) w/prev set of wicked problems/ have to re-examine what we mean by “measure.” Not interested in counting tweets #lrnchat
11:37:33 am _Kavi: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4)… we have to re-examine what we mean by “measure.” Not interested in counting tweets #lrnchat
11:37:43 am JaneBozarth: @Dave_Ferguson Yep. We learned to do that in college. #lrnchat
11:37:43 am LnDDave: RT @tenartemis: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4) we have to re-examine what we mean by “measure.” Not interested in counting tweets #lrnchat
11:37:44 am catherine_delia: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4) Along with previous set of wicked problems, we have to re-examine what we mean by “measure.” Not interested in counting tweets #lrnchat
11:37:48 am Barb_D: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4) Very interested in seeing how ideas spread in an org over time. We can measure that. Its valuable. #lrnchat
11:37:57 am StephanieDaul: Q4) how do you measure someone who is reading but not participating but still improving their performance? #lrnchat
11:38:03 am dawnladams: RT @JaneBozarth: @dawnladams no, eval data shouldn’t be used to improve? really? The right eval data s/b used 4 improve. #lrnchat
11:38:05 am chettbradley: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:38:06 am MimiBarbara: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4) Very interested in seeing how ideas spread in an org over time. We can measure that. Its valuable. #lrnchat
11:38:28 am JaneBozarth: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4) Very interested in seeing how ideas spread in an org over time. We can measure that. Its valuable. #lrnchat
11:38:34 am adfunkster: #lrnchat Q4) yes. Start with defining what skills, behaviors, knowledge, etc. should change a result of social/informal learning.
11:38:34 am LauraLJ: #lrnchat training = straight-jacket; learning = an open door
11:38:37 am KristiBroom: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4) Very interested in seeing how ideas spread in an org over time. We can measure that. Its valuable. #Lrnchat
11:38:39 am chettbradley: Q4 can’t answer that one…yet. #lrnchat
11:38:40 am NonprofResMemo: RT @JaneBozarth: Evaluation data should be used to IMprove, not just prove. Am I really the only one who thinks that? #lrnchat
11:38:44 am mrch0mp3rs: Q4) Very interested in how people find information that ties to their performance and improving that seeking speed. Measureable #lrnchat
11:38:45 am JaneBozarth: @dawnladams you said no, it shouldn’t ? I don’t understand. #lrnchat
11:38:45 am catherine_delia: Good point. RT @MimiBarbara: Q4) Still trying to decide if social learning impact on performance is measurable. #lrnchat
11:38:49 am 2GFred: Ethics in business has to do with how people treat each other… interact… social learning/feedback… possibilities? #lrnchat
11:38:55 am c4lpt: Q4) So watch out for all the new systems that are going to “measure” social learning! #lrnchat
11:39:00 am bschlenker: Q4) More interesting is seeing the curation of social info turning into solid biz solution #lrnchat
11:39:17 am _Kavi: Q4) There needs to be a movement against ‘measuring everything’ ! Somethings cant be. Lets get real ! #lrnchat
11:39:20 am catherine_delia: RT @StephanieDaul: Q4) how do you measure someone who is reading but not participating but still improving their performance? #lrnchat
11:39:24 am StephanieDaul: RT @c4lpt: Q4) So watch out for all the new systems that are going to “measure” social learning! #lrnchat
11:39:28 am JaneBozarth: @dawnladams but ok. Respect your opinion. #lrnchat
11:39:28 am JaneBozarth: @dawnladams but ok. Respect your opinion. #lrnchat
11:39:39 am KristiBroom: RT @bschlenker: Q4) More interesting is seeing the curation of social info turning into solid biz solution #Lrnchat
11:39:40 am alc47: Q4@LauraLJ @c4lpt disagree – we need to think performance not learning or training – #lrnchat
11:39:42 am urbie: @bschlenker: Q4) required mandatory blogging. <faceinhands> #lrnchat .. forced is no good.. George Carlin: “They gotta wanna!”
11:39:47 am JaneBozarth: Gold rush. RT @c4lpt: Q4) So watch out for all the new systems that are going to “measure” social learning! #lrnchat
11:39:58 am Dave_Ferguson: @stephaniedaul What is it that causes you to say the performance has improved? #lrnchat
11:40:16 am dawnjmahoney: Q4) Kind of Gladwell’s premise in The Tipping Point #lrnchat
11:40:25 am dawnjmahoney: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @stephaniedaul What is it that causes you to say the performance has improved? #lrnchat
11:40:31 am StephanieDaul: Q4) we don’t even know what social learning is…how can you measure what you can’t define. #lrnchat
11:40:33 am janet_frg: @Dave_Ferguson: “sheep-dip training.” just made me choke on my coffee 🙂 #lrnchat
11:40:33 am chettbradley: Q4 first thots: provide ops not defined outcomes. constant form. evals. can ID trends for formal progs ltr. #lrnchat
11:40:37 am dawnjmahoney: RT @KristiBroom: RT @bschlenker: Q4) More interesting is seeing the curation of social info turning into solid biz solution #lrnchat
11:40:42 am mrch0mp3rs: Q4) Interested in an org who are the amplifers for org messages, who are the idea generators. We can analyze that for good reasons #lrnchat
11:40:48 am catherine_delia: @dawnjmahoney Gladwell came to my mind as well. #lrnchat
11:40:51 am MimiBarbara: RT @KristiBroom: RT @bschlenker: Q4) More interesting is seeing the curation of social info turning into solid biz solution #lrnchat
11:40:51 am Barb_D: Participating in my first Twitter Chat! Cool!!! #lrnchat
11:40:55 am OpenSesameNow: @janebozarth @c4lpt Social learning measurement tools probably just as useful as the tools to measure ROI on social media. #lrnchat
11:40:57 am _Kavi: q4) No one can ever be 100 % sure that the changes are (only) because of the social learning program in vogue ! #lrnchat
11:41:04 am KristiBroom: Q4) To show value…sell solutions, we have to be able to tell a story. Informal/social are big players in that story #Lrnchat
11:41:06 am JaneBozarth: I expect all of you to show up on time for my new mandatory social learning program.Tomorrow 10 am ET.You must participate. & blog. #lrnchat
11:41:07 am kelly_smith01: Q4)Just do NOT use MBPI to measure social or informal learning. #lrnchat
11:41:11 am LnDDave: Q4) I see it as more connecting than measuring. We measure performance; we connect that performance to what influenced it. #lrnchat
11:41:15 am dawnladams: Didn’t mean shouldn’t use, meant most orgs don’t use. RT @JaneBozarth: @dawnladams you said no, it shouldn’t ? I don’t understand. #lrnchat
11:41:16 am c4lpt: For me (and ITA #inttime) learning=working=learning @alc47 @LauraLJ #lrnchat
11:41:17 am dawnjmahoney: RT @StephanieDaul: Q4) how do you measure someone who is reading but not participating but still improving perf? #lrnchat
11:41:17 am tenartemis: Q4) Can you tie performance metrics into social learning experiences? Can you prove improvement over time? #lrnchat
11:41:23 am LauraLJ: #lrnchat Q4) it’s risk assessment: the benefits of supporting (not forcing) informal learning opportunities outweigh the risks
11:41:28 am nimblecopy: RT @C4LPT Q4) So watch out for all the new systems that are going to “measure” social learning! #lrnchat
11:41:30 am JaneBozarth: yeah…RT @OpenSesameNow Social learning measurement tools probably just as useful as the tools to measure ROI on social media. #lrnchat
11:41:40 am mrch0mp3rs: RT @tenartemis: Q4) Can you tie performance metrics into social learning experiences? Can you prove improvement over time? #lrnchat
11:41:47 am Barb_D: RT @StephanieDaul: Q4) we dont even know what social learning is…how can you measure what you cant define. <Amen #lrnchat
11:41:50 am JaneBozarth: @dawnladams you said no before. Ok… #lrnchat
11:41:53 am dawnjmahoney: @catherine_delia yay! (hoped I wasn’t all the way out on my own there) #lrnchat
11:42:08 am LnDDave: RT @Barb_D: Participating in my first Twitter Chat! Cool!!! #lrnchat WELCOME!
11:42:23 am adfunkster: #lrnchat it’s not always the tool that needs to be measured. more often it is the result of interaction with the tool that needs measuring.
11:42:25 am Dave_Ferguson: @tenartemis I’m conducting my own n=1 experiment on tracking improvement following informal learning. #lrnchat
11:42:30 am mrch0mp3rs: @tenartemis With the data, you can make the case for correlation between social learning (by any definition) and performance #lrnchat
11:42:35 am JudithELS: Got to dash (slowly!). Thanks for having me & the superb chat this pm. See you all next week. #lrnchat
11:42:37 am bschlenker: @mrch0mp3rs @tenartemis Yes. But the proof is in the biz results. #lrnchat
11:42:40 am RyanJSegrist: Q4 Maybe instead of performance, we could measure influence in social learning. Define outcomes in terms of behavior probability #lrnchat
11:42:45 am MimiBarbara: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4) Very interested in how people find information that ties to their performance and improving that seeking speed. #lrnchat
11:42:54 am dawnladams: But ask right q’s. Temp isn’t one I’d ask. RT @JaneBozarth: @dawnladams you said no, it shouldn’t ? I don’t understand. #lrnchat
11:43:06 am alc47: RT @c4lpt: For me (and ITA #inttime) learning=working=learning @alc47 @LauraLJ Agreed so the measure is performance! #lrnchat
11:43:09 am anthonyloftis: Q4) Marketers struggle to measure the impact of social media, and their jobs depend on results from campaigns. #lrnchat
11:43:14 am chettbradley: RT @RyanJSegrist: RT @JaneBozarth: @barrydahl that’s why workplace learning should be more clearly distinguished from an academic ‘course’ #lrnchat
11:43:14 am LauraLJ: #lrnchat Q4) perhaps if we have more conversations with people- find out how they learned to do their job instead of ticking boxes…
11:43:24 am LnDDave: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4) Very interested in how people find information that ties to their performance and improving that seeking speed. #lrnchat
11:43:36 am dawnjmahoney: @JaneBozarth Title: SoMe for FUN & business improvement (publish or perish inherent subtext) #lrnchat
11:43:40 am urbie: @bschlenker: @mrch0mp3rs @tenartemis Yes. But the proof is in the biz results. #lrnchat .. and human factors: less absenteeism, accidents..
11:43:43 am mrch0mp3rs: Q4) The “measuring” isn’t rocket science. Getting us to stop mesauring what’s “easy” to measure and start on what’s important is. #lrnchat
11:43:48 am bschlenker: @Barb_D I didn’t realize this was you first chat. I hope you take some time to reflect at the end and report back. #lrnchat
11:43:48 am 2GFred: RT @LauraLJ: #lrnchat Q4) perhaps if we have more conversations with people- find out how they learned to do their job #lrnchat
11:43:50 am _Kavi: RT @LauraLJ: #lrnchat Q4) perhaps if we have more conversations with people- find out how they learned to do job instead of ticking boxes
11:43:53 am LnDDave: RT @LauraLJ: #lrnchat Q4) perhaps if we have more conversations with people- find out how they learned … instead of ticking boxes…
11:44:11 am OpenSesameNow: A case study! RT @dave_ferguson: I’m conducting my own n=1 experiment on tracking improvement following informal learning. #lrnchat
11:44:29 am Barb_D: RT @bschlenker: @Barb_D I hope you take some time to reflect at the end and report back. <Will do! #lrnchat
11:44:32 am KristiBroom: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4) The “measuring” isnt rocket science. Getting us to stop mesauring whats “easy” and start on whats important is. #Lrnchat
11:44:39 am mpalko: Q4) maybe we need to work backwards. Find the top performers first, then ask how they became that way #lrnchat
11:44:51 am dawnjmahoney: RT @LauraLJ: Q4) perhaps if we have more conversations with people- find out how they learned …instead of ticking boxes|huh! #lrnchat
11:44:54 am langholloman: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @mrch0mp3rs I’m a fan of data, but if you get too granular, you end up with bags of beach sand. Don’t collect just b/c you CAN. #lrnchat
11:45:01 am bschlenker: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4) The “measuring” isnt rocket science. stop mesauring whats “easy” to measure and start on whats important is. #lrnchat
11:45:05 am JaneBozarth: RT @mpalko: Q4) maybe we need to work backwards. Find the top performers first, then ask how they became that way #lrnchat
11:45:16 am Dave_Ferguson: Tom Gilbert noted that before you can measure, you have to ID the requirements for performance. Orgs tend to forget that part. #lrnchat
11:45:17 am mrch0mp3rs: I’d argue this goes as much on our collective shoulders as it does to the leaders of orgs: expect better. Seriously. #lrnchat
11:45:17 am RyanJSegrist: RT @mpalko: Q4) maybe we need to work backwards. Find the top performers first, then ask how they became that way #lrnchat
11:45:17 am catherine_delia: Like it. RT @mpalko: Q4) maybe we need to work backwards. Find the top performers first, then ask how they became that way #lrnchat
11:45:24 am tenartemis: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4) “measuring” isnt rckt sci Getting us to stop mesauring whats “easy” to measure and start on whats important is #lrnchat
11:45:24 am Barb_D: RT @mpalko: Q4) maybe we need to work backwards. Find the top performers first, then ask how they became that way #lrnchat
11:45:26 am adfunkster: I agree @mrch0mp3rs: Q4) … Getting us to stop mesauring what’s “easy” to measure and start on what’s important is. #lrnchat
11:45:30 am JaneBozarth: @mpalko bet some wouldn’t like the answer to that. #lrnchat
11:45:36 am LauraLJ: #lrnchat Q4) doesn’t it come back to measuring performance
11:45:41 am scogill: @mpalko also interview average / poor performers and see what’s different! #lrnchat
11:45:45 am LnDDave: RT @Dave_Ferguson: … before you can measure, you have to ID the requirements for performance. Orgs tend to forget that part. #lrnchat
11:45:51 am sifowler: <drive-by> Hello #lrnchat tweeps. Man, I miss you guys. Just not the space for it these days. Hope that’ll change soon.
11:45:55 am elliotross: Good Q RT @KatieStroudPro: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:45:57 am lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too. #lrnchat
11:45:58 am LnDDave: RT @mrch0mp3rs: I’d argue this goes as much on our collective shoulders as it does to the leaders of orgs: expect better. Seriously. #lrnchat
11:46:00 am alc47: RT @LauraLJ: #lrnchat Q4) more chat with people- how learned to do job instead of ticking boxes…Maybe tells us what to do to help #lrnchat
11:46:01 am dawnjmahoney: I feel like we’ve come completely full circle here. What is measured/why/why not/who cares/No don’t do it… 🙂 #lrnchat
11:46:06 am RyanJSegrist: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too. #lrnchat
11:46:16 am KatieStroudPro: RT @LnDDave: RT @Dave_Ferguson: … before you can measure, you have to ID the requirements for performance. Orgs tend to forget that part. #lrnchat
11:46:21 am _Kavi: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too. #lrnchat
11:46:21 am JaneBozarth: @mpalko Bet answer will never be, “Oh, I am a top performer because I spent 6 days of my career in your leadership academy.” #lrnchat
11:46:22 am gdochuk: As former prof I tried to ‘force’ postings. utter failure! @JaneBozarth Had prof who graded based on # of posts to discuss. board. #lrnchat
11:46:26 am c4lpt: q4) This fixation with “measuring learning” is old world thinking; we’re moving into new world thinking #lrnchat
11:46:33 am LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too. #lrnchat
11:46:39 am LeeMarkDavies: “Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat” – isn’t that for individuals to do?
11:46:39 am KristiBroom: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too. #Lrnchat
11:46:41 am nimblecopy: RT @LauraLJ: #lrnchat Q4) perhaps if we have more conversations with people- find out how they learned to do their job instead of ticking boxes…
11:46:54 am catherine_delia: RT @c4lpt: q4) This fixation with “measuring learning” is old world thinking; were moving into new world thinking #lrnchat
11:46:58 am Barb_D: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too. #lrnchat
11:47:01 am urbie: #lrnchat qwrap.. urbie delgado, instructional designer, washington (cherry trees in bloom), dc, focus: (re)humanizing distance ed..
11:47:05 am c4lpt: Qwrap) To explain the elephant references earlier this is Elephant Learning aka E-Learning 😉 #lrnchat http://twitpic.com/4fd5du
11:47:09 am KristiBroom: Really good questions again today. Many thanks to the author! #Lrnchat
11:47:26 am chettbradley: Deets? RT @JaneBozarth: I expect all of you to show up on time for my new mandatory social learning program.Tomorrow 10 am ET.#lrnchat
11:47:28 am Dave_Ferguson: Dave Ferguson, 6 hours into reorg of my digital files–like re-articulating your own skeleton. Or mine. #lrnchat
11:47:30 am 2GFred: QW) Fred Stevens, Bus Perf Improvement & Pers Growth Coaching. Joined late, but learned a lot as usual! Thanks everyone! #lrnchat
11:47:37 am jungleejanwar: RT @_Kavi: Q4) There needs to be a movement against ‘measuring everything’ ! Somethings cant be. Lets get real ! #lrnchat
11:47:43 am JaneBozarth: Jane, Raleigh, world’s oldest millenial, new iPad2 owner, wicked problem. Buy all my books. #lrnchat
11:47:59 am bschlenker: Qwrap) Brent Schlenker – PhxAZ – Pumped for mLearnCon in June – Plotting for DevLearn in Nov. – [insert letter]Learning #lrnchat
11:48:02 am chettbradley: RT @adfunkster: #lrnchat it’s not always the tool that needs to be measured. more often it is the result of interaction with the tool that needs measuring.
11:48:03 am mpalko: Qwrap) Michael Palko trainer / community mgr Raleigh NC. Spent my lunch hour with a bunch of top performers #lrnchat
11:48:07 am alc47: RT @c4lpt: q4) This fixation with “measuring learning” is old world thinking; were moving into new world thinking. Totally agree #lrnchat
11:48:11 am LnDDave: QW) David Kelly, Training Director from NYC, looking forward to future opportunities! #lrnchat
11:48:13 am MimiBarbara: Qwrap) Barbara Smith, Atlanta #lrnchat
11:48:33 am dawnjmahoney: I’m still here near Mad-Town USA (heard of r Gov lately?) Enjoy you all! #lrnchat
11:48:33 am tenartemis: Qwrap) Kristen Boettcher, Formerly Employed Trainer, Orlando, FL. First full #lrnchat participation. #lrnchat
11:48:38 am Barb_D: Barb David. Education Manager. DC area association. Loved my first chat here! Enjoyed “meeting” you all! I’ll be back 🙂 #lrnchat
11:48:47 am alc47: RT @c4lpt: Qwrap) To explain the elephant refs this is Elephant Learning aka E-Learning 😉 #lrnchat http://twitpic.com/4fd5du #lrnchat
11:48:58 am chettbradley: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @tenartemis I’m conducting my own n=1 experiment. #lrnchat Don’t forget to fill in your ethical consent form!
11:48:59 am RyanJSegrist: QW) Ryan Segrist in DC, learn learn learning all the time. Thanks everyone for a great #lrnchat!
11:49:05 am OpenSesameNow: Kelly, from the OpenSesame elearning marketplace. Shameless plug for our sweet learning blog: www.opensesame.com/blog #lrnchat
11:49:07 am MimiBarbara: RT @KristiBroom: Really good questions again today. Many thanks to the author! #lrnchat
11:49:16 am _Kavi: RT @_Kavi: Kavi. Mumbai. Learner. For a long time now. #lrnchat
11:49:21 am 2GFred: @tenartemis Hope you enjoyed it. Thanks for getting involved! #lrnchat
11:49:23 am scogill: will there be donuts? RT @JaneBozarth I expect all of you to show up on time for my new mandatory social learning program. #lrnchat
11:49:36 am nimblecopy: RT @lrnchat Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too. #lrnchat
11:49:37 am urbie: #lrnchat http://t.co/VhAEwi0
11:49:37 am JaneBozarth: Love having new folks here. Hope y’all had fun! #lrnchat
11:49:48 am bschlenker: Good topic folks! I’m looking forward to hearing what the night crowd has to say about the topic. Cheers! #lrnchat
11:49:55 am _Kavi: Good questions and wonderful connections ! Thanks all ! RT @_Kavi: RT @_Kavi: Kavi. Mumbai. Learner. For a long time now. #lrnchat
11:49:57 am LnDDave: QW) I often reflect on #lrnchat discussions via my blog, found here: http://bit.ly/aTHCdY
11:49:57 am mrch0mp3rs: Qwrap) Aaron Silvers, Chicago, IL. Follow @LrnEXP. Read my blog (aaronsilvers.com). Ask the hard questions, fight the good fight! #lrnchat
11:50:02 am KristiBroom: Qwrap) Kristi Broom, Minneapolis, MN, learning technology #Lrnchat
11:50:08 am JaneBozarth: @scogill No, but if y’all write that on smile sheets for 10 years, and I don’t look at them, then we will have collected data. #lrnchat
11:50:20 am JaneBozarth: Good stuff> RT @LnDDave: QW) I often reflect on #lrnchat discussions via my blog, found here: http://bit.ly/aTHCdY #lrnchat
11:50:24 am jungleejanwar: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @Barb_D: RT @TriciaRansom: Formative = tasting soup as you prepare it. Summative = tasting after it’s served. #lrnchat
11:50:27 am scogill: #lrnchat Qwrap) Sarah – Atlanta – always looking to learn how to do things better and MAKE improvements! Thanks for a great hour! #lrnchat
11:50:38 am catherine_delia: Fast pace w/ the early group. Adios from Rochester, at the intersection of employee ed and academics. Thanks All! #lrnchat
11:50:46 am nimblecopy: Qwrap) Signing off…Jennie, Nimble Copy, instructional design and copywriting, Portland, Oregon #lrnchat
11:50:46 am flowersprof: Qwrap) Turea Flowers, Atlanta, GA #lrnchat
11:50:48 am dawnjmahoney: @scogill @JaneBozarth And we will have the room temp fixed at least w/in 2-12 degrees of how u like it–promise 🙂 #lrnchat
11:50:50 am chettbradley: RT @KristiBroom: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4) The “measuring” isnt rocket science. Getting us to stop mesauring whats “easy” and start on whats important is. #Lrnchat
11:50:50 am KatieStroudPro: Qwrap) Katie Stroud, training consultant currently partnered with @1080Group take our survey http://ow.ly/4quWN #lrnchat
11:50:51 am adfunkster: #lrnchat Qwrap) Thank you everyone! I enjoyed the time to think and reflect with you. – Dirk Funk, instructional designer from Amarillo, TX
11:51:27 am KavisMusings: Oldest millenial ! Thats aspiraational ! RT @JaneBozarth: Jane, Raleigh, world’s oldest millenial, new iPad2 owner,……. #lrnchat
11:51:34 am LauraLJ: #lrnchat Qwrap) thanks guys for a great conversation see me also @purplelearning and www.purplelearning.co.uk (blog).
11:51:35 am purplelearning: #lrnchat Qwrap) thanks guys for a great conversation see me also @purplelearning and www.purplelearning.co.uk (blog).
11:51:43 am mrch0mp3rs: AND DEFINITELY check out @LnDDave ‘s blog. His #lrnchat reflections are gold http://bit.ly/aTHCdY
11:51:50 am gdochuk: Qwrap) Vancouver BC, new to the field (but not learning), was late to #lrnchat always interested in new opportunities to explore this field
11:52:05 am mrch0mp3rs: And for all my new followers, thanks for pushing me over 1900 today. W00T!!!!! #lrnchat
11:52:10 am chettbradley: Qwrap – relieved I did SO much better this time. Spent 20 minutes ABOVE the 1/2 way mark on the chat scroll bar! 🙂 #lrnchat
11:52:34 am _Kavi: Oldest millenial ! Thats aspirational ! RT @JaneBozarth: Jane, Raleigh, world’s oldest millenial, new iPad2 owner……. #lrnchat
11:52:34 am alc47: We need some real debates here – not creeping concensus. – see you all next week #lrnchat
11:52:48 am 2GFred: @chettbradley congrats! That takes focus and effort! #lrnchat
11:52:49 am mrch0mp3rs: @chettbradley It’s six weeks of hell before the epiphany strikes of how to manage Twitter. Good job! #lrnchat
11:53:16 am JaneBozarth: I’m a little disappointed that our wit and beauty did not attract @BronxZoosCobra in today… #lrnchat
11:53:19 am AndreaMay1: @billcush We hope to see drops in help desk issues, but it also gives real insights about items that are still a training problem. #lrnchat
11:53:39 am LnDDave: For an archive of my #lrnchat posts, check this post: http://bit.ly/g5Qsk7 Thanks for the feedback!
11:54:57 am cristinadiezm: RT @c4lpt: Qwrap) To explain the elephant references earlier this is Elephant Learning aka E-Learning 😉 #lrnchat http://twitpic.com/4fd5du
11:55:04 am RyanJSegrist: @JaneBozarth I’m not disappointed to not see @BronxZoosCobra…Its tweets are poisonous! #lrnchat
11:55:10 am cristinadiezm: RT @c4lpt: Q4) So watch out for all the new systems that are going to “measure” social learning! #lrnchat
11:55:33 am chettbradley: Qwrap – Chett, Toronto. Thanks everyone – that was brilliant fun. I’m going to try putting my brain back together now… #lrnchat
11:55:51 am OpenSesameNow: @tenartemis Welcome to #lrnchat! Hope it was engaging.
11:56:22 am TerrenceWing: Congrats RT @mrch0mp3rs: And for all my new followers, thanks for pushing me over 1900 today. W00T!!!!! #lrnchat
11:57:10 am JaneBozarth: @RyanJSegrist @BronxZoosCobra VENOMous, not POISONous. She’s really sensitive about that. #lrnchat
11:57:16 am StephanieDaul: QWrap) Stephanie Daul, Learning Consultant, Chicago – looking for someone with an eval background #lrnchat
11:57:23 am joostrobben: RT @c4lpt: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:57:44 am joostrobben: RT @c4lpt: Q3) If we see learning as ongoing and not as ad hoc events thats why performance data is more valuable #lrnchat
11:58:18 am AndreaMay1: qwrap) Great discussion today. Visit our blog @dashethomson http://bit.ly/dX18Bt #lrnchat
11:59:13 am lrnchat: Thank you for joining us on #lrnchat. We’ll post the transcript later on http://lrnchat.com. See you next week!
11:59:17 am ReichundRanicki: RT @simbeckhampson: Making sense of the data is work. Collective intelligence is the future. Combining AI and HI. #insights feed #success #lrnchat
11:59:19 am chambo_online: My Twitter BFFs: @lnddave @janebozarth @lrnchat @mrch0mp3rs @kristibroom @cammybean @profgesser. Find yours @ http://twitterbffs.com
11:59:30 am chambo_online: My Twitter BFFs: @lnddave @janebozarth @lrnchat @mrch0mp3rs @cammybean @kristibroom @profgesser. Find yours @ http://twitterbffs.com
11:59:38 am Barb_D: RT @LnDDave: For an archive of my #lrnchat posts, check this post: http://bit.ly/g5Qsk7 Thanks for the feedback! <you are too cool! #lrnchat
12:00:15 pm megbertapelle: looking