Transcript – May 11, 2017: The Reluctant Learner

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This Week’s Questions

  • What are some characteristics of a reluctant learner?
  • How does the reluctant learner disrupt learning?
  • What are some of the factors which distract learners from being fully engaged?
  • What are some risks associated with giving the learner a “sufficient level of control” when prompting engagement?
  • How can you make your own excitement for learning more contagious to others?
  • As a learner what do you do when you need to recharge or re-engage during a learning effort?
8:30 PM lrnchat Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
8:31 PM LearnNuggets Hi all! Kevin Thorn w/ NuggetHead Studioz. Crossing fingers that I don’t get pulled away tonight! #lrnchat
8:31 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
8:32 PM urbie hey #lrnchat! i been okay, thank you for asking. urbie, learning experience designer doing hard time as a broadcast/video project manager..
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8:32 PM trojan2019 @lrnchat This is my first Twitter chat! #lrnchat I’m excited to see what it’s like!
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8:32 PM lrnchat Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat
8:32 PM eLearninCyclops It’s Jeff in Baltimore. Not reluctantly joining #lrnchat
8:32 PM LearnNuggets @urbie Hey Urbie! #lrnchat
8:32 PM eLearninCyclops @trojan2019 Welcome to #lrnchat !
8:33 PM eRowland_eLearn Eric from Rochester, NY. eLearning Specialist. #lrnchat
8:33 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat Hailing from Sydney! Concurrently tuning in to the #AITD2017 stream (you should too!) #lrnchat
8:33 PM JaneBozarth I’ve been here, thanks. You? #lrnchat https://t.co/cON3cKPqSW
8:33 PM dawnjmahoney Hey, y’all! Been learning about electric meter installation the past two weeks
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8:34 PM urbie @LearnNuggets Hey Kevin! #lrnchat
8:34 PM willconstantine Hey folks! #lrnchat
8:34 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat
8:34 PM EdXUHRD Grad student studying Human Resource Development. Millennial who never touched Twitter before. This is my first #lrnchat and Twitter journey
8:34 PM LearnNuggets Working on all sorts of cool stuff. Stopmotion and rotoscope animations in explainer videos. And studying comics for learning.
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8:34 PM kelly_smith01 Good evening. I am attending a UX developer presentation and attending #lrnchat
8:34 PM lrnchat Any first-time #lrnchatters tonight? Please say hi. Ask for help if you need it. #lrnchat
8:34 PM urbie @LearnNuggets are you going to #atd2017 next week? which way to Atlanta is nicer, I-20 or ? #lrnchat
8:34 PM LearnNuggets @JaneBozarth Welcome home! #lrnchat
8:35 PM willconstantine It’s an interesting thing to go from triage mode to building a curriculum #lrnchat
8:35 PM Joshing Hello. Josh from Philly. Currently working on delivery. #lrnchat https://t.co/tWAUHFQA3x
8:35 PM busynessgirl Hi #lrnchat! What I have been up to … well, we publicly launched our startup on Monday: https://t.co/VKy7In0IoF so I guess that’s news. 🙂
8:35 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat
8:35 PM JaneBozarth Jane, RDU, storming, norming, performing. Gubmint worker. Columnist for @learningsolmag Feral, rabid, whatnot. #lrnchat
8:35 PM lrnchat Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:35 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Any first-time #lrnchatters tonight? Please say hi. Ask for help if you need it. #lrnchat
8:35 PM LearnNuggets @urbie No, missing ATD this year. If I were, I wouldn’t drive. Hate Atlanta traffic. #lrnchat
8:35 PM dawnjmahoney RT @lrnchat Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:35 PM JaneBozarth @LearnNuggets Thank you. I had to wear shoes yesterday. It was awful. #lrnchat
8:36 PM trojan2019 I am a pre service teacher. For a project based instruction class, I helped write a unit lesson for business plans and math. #lrnchat
8:36 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:36 PM LearnNuggets @JaneBozarth Ha! I can relate. #lrnchat
8:36 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A0) This week I learned how to make character tokens for @roll20app using Powerpoint and images from the i… https://t.co/TEZT0UvNCS
8:36 PM urbie RT @busynessgirl: Hi #lrnchat! What I have been up to … well, we publicly launched our startup on Monday: https://t.co/VKy7In0IoF so I gues…
8:36 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:37 PM willconstantine Q0) I learned that as a consultant you still have support the team you’re working with rather than being the lone wolf #lrnchat
8:37 PM LearnNuggets A0) I learned when you upgrade desks not realizing it takes an entire day to disassemble the studio and another day to put it back. #lrnchat
8:37 PM trojan2019 A0) This week I learned that no matter how prepared you think you are, things will NOT be perfect. So be prepared! #lrnchat
8:38 PM urbie #lrnchat A0 Learned this week? Best Buy’s amazing customer service. Bought a #Phantom4Pro in Arizona. DOA in New Mexico. Replaced in Texas.
8:38 PM Joshing Noting new, but a reminder. There is a lot to learn from the people in your network… but only if you keep the con… https://t.co/jB5uT3Cyl2
8:38 PM eRowland_eLearn A0) I learned how I could approach my role better to help the team. #lrnchat
8:38 PM willconstantine Whoops, Will Constantine, and @WeAreExponent is my current project. We’re building our learning from the ground up! #lrnchat
8:39 PM busynessgirl A0) Learned to stop asking kids what to be when they grow up. Ask what problems they want to solve. Future jobs a mystery. #lrnchat
8:39 PM LearnNuggets A0) Learned that a client who doesn’t know how to manage their client is not my problem. #lrnchat
8:39 PM willconstantine @Joshing Very true Josh! #lrnchat
8:39 PM JaneBozarth A0 teaching myself about responsive design tools/HTML5. Love it. THIS IS SO MUCH EASIER THAN IT USED TO BE. #lrnchat
8:40 PM lrnchat Q1.) What are some characteristics of a reluctant learner? #lrnchat
8:40 PM dawnjmahoney RT @lrnchat Q1.) What are some characteristics of a reluctant learner? #lrnchat
8:40 PM eLearninCyclops Q0) Learned again today, sometimes you have to remind the higher ups how much eLearning is valued by those in the trenches #lrnchat
8:40 PM kelly_smith01 Q0) Learning about developer – designer relationship as I type this – multitasking #lrnchat
8:40 PM trojan2019 @MrKMaston @lrnchat @roll20app What are character tokens? #lrnchat
8:40 PM LearnNuggets A0) And…just like that I learned the dinner bell rang. Shoot. Hopefully I’ll be back before ending. #lrnchat
8:40 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q1.) What are some characteristics of a reluctant learner? #lrnchat
8:40 PM busynessgirl Join us in #lrnchat for the next hour if you want to talk about reluctant learners. https://t.co/dlDWFiSiPl
8:40 PM EdXUHRD A0) I learned that there’s a great community of learning professionals that meet on Twitter every week 🙂 #lrnchat
8:40 PM eLearninCyclops RT @JaneBozarth A0 teaching myself about responsive design tools/HTML5. Love it THIS IS SO MUCH EASIER THAN IT USED TO BE. #lrnchat | So Tru
8:41 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lrnchat Q1.) What are some characteristics of a reluctant learner? #lrnchat
8:41 PM dawnjmahoney A0) “Prove to me I need to learn this stuff” #lrnchat
8:41 PM willconstantine Q1) lack of value in what they are learning, level of uncomfort, failure, new responsibility #lrnchat
8:42 PM eLearninCyclops Q1) Not focused on development or taking it to the next level. #lrnchat
8:42 PM Joshing In my experience they are salespeople that think taking time to learn is really losing time to make money rather th… https://t.co/Som1O51uOg
8:42 PM trojan2019 @lrnchat A1) seeming engaged but trying to look disengaged in order to not draw attention to themselves #lrnchat
8:42 PM ShafPatel @lrnchat A1: Reluctant to learn things which could possibly benefit them in the future. #lrnchat
8:42 PM busynessgirl Characteristics of a reluctant learner: no show, procrastination, minimum viable responses to prompts, snarkiness #lrnchat
8:42 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q1.) What are some characteristics of a reluctant learner? #lrnchat
8:42 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q1.) What are some characteristics of a reluctant learner? #lrnchat
8:43 PM EdXUHRD A1) Disengaged, uninspired. Change-averse. #lrnchat
8:43 PM urbie #lrnchat A1 A reluctant learner’s probably been burned once or twice. Once subjected to poor learning experience twice shy some say..
8:43 PM dawnjmahoney A1) choosing not to engage #lrnchat
8:43 PM eLearninCyclops Q1) Not engaged in current job or pursuit – Unwilling to invest in it. #lrnchat
8:44 PM trojan2019 @lrnchat A1) always wanting to know why the subject is important, or what they will benefit from it. #lrnchat
8:44 PM eLearninCyclops RT @dawnjmahoney A1) choosing not to engage #lrnchat
8:44 PM JaneBozarth A1 Me? Eyerolling, trying to rush through/find way to hack. Sometimes surprised when I just stop and pay attention a minute. #lrnchat
8:44 PM kelly_smith01 Q1) Learner’s interest and motivation fades #lrnchat
8:44 PM rabbitoreg Hi everyone! Joining late after business trip. #lrnchat
8:44 PM JaneBozarth A1 “I don’t have time.” #lrnchat
8:45 PM eRowland_eLearn A1) They wont want to waste their time with learning. #lrnchat
8:45 PM urbie #lrnchat A1b It really depends on which side of the street you’re perspective is from. A little empathy goes a long way. “Where’s it hurt?”
8:45 PM kelly_smith01 RT @dawnjmahoney: A1) choosing not to engage #lrnchat
8:45 PM dawnjmahoney A1) Challenge the trainer, content #lrnchat
8:46 PM MelMilloway Hey #lrnchat peeps. Popping in for a moment to say howdy.
8:46 PM busynessgirl @karadefrias @lrnchat Sounds like a bad leader to me. Is a know-it-all same/different than a reluctant learner? #lrnchat
8:46 PM ShafPatel @trojan2019 I’d say that’s them being more questioning and curious than reluctant. #lrnchat
8:46 PM eLearninCyclops A1) Does not see the relevance btwn the learning event and their job #lrnchat
8:46 PM EdXUHRD A1) Doesn’t look at learning as an opportunity, but as a compliance activity #lrnchat
8:46 PM mohammadhassam @lrnchat #lrnchat Mohammad here, instructional designer at #Citrix. My passion is Learning
8:46 PM urbie #lrnchat A1c The “What’s in it for me?” either doesn’t ring true for a reluctant learner or.. Anyway, they passively/actively hang back.
8:47 PM MrKMaston @trojan2019 @lrnchat @roll20app They represent each player’s character on the tabletop client. You can embed them w… https://t.co/tUfw9CNNTP
8:47 PM rabbitoreg A1) I’ll be in and out. Mentally. #lrnchat
8:47 PM busynessgirl I think this is right. Reluctant learners are “employee” learners. Just tell me what to do and I’ll fill the menu o… https://t.co/JR7ZkXo4qT
8:47 PM lrnchat Q2.) How does the reluctant learner disrupt learning? #lrnchat
8:47 PM eLearninCyclops A1) Doesn’t even own a thinking cap. #lrnchat
8:47 PM dawnjmahoney RT @lrnchat Q2.) How does the reluctant learner disrupt learning? #lrnchat
8:47 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q2.) How does the reluctant learner disrupt learning? #lrnchat
8:47 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lrnchat: Q2.) How does the reluctant learner disrupt learning? #lrnchat
8:47 PM mohammadhassam @lrnchat Busy but great!. Hello Everyone! #lrnchat #elearning
8:47 PM trojan2019 @lrnchat A1) they seem to put up a fight, but it could stem from insecurities in the subject. #lrnchat
8:48 PM MelMilloway A1 Whenever anyone says: They are too old, too non-tech savvy, too something, to not be able to learn. #lrnchat https://t.co/opOyiXbZFP
8:48 PM ShafPatel @lrnchat A2: think they know all the answers and refuses to see different perspectives, opinions and ways to do things. #lrnchat
8:48 PM willconstantine Q2) skepticism, challenging questions, we don’t do it that way #lrnchat
8:48 PM urbie #lrnchat A1d An oft missed characteristic of a reluctant learner.. they may be right [to reluct]. Is training appropriate? Designed well?
8:48 PM dawnjmahoney A2) Disrupt? or be Disruptive? #lrnchat
8:49 PM EdXUHRD A2) In social contexts, a reluctant learner can prevent the rest of the group from having a positive learning experience #lrnchat
8:49 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q2.) How does the reluctant learner disrupt learning? #lrnchat
8:49 PM kelly_smith01 Q1) Looks at the bright and shiny objects #lrnchat
8:49 PM eLearninCyclops RT @willconstantine Q2) skepticism, challenging questions, we don’t do it that way #lrnchat
8:49 PM mohammadhassam I learn how to design interactive and engaging simulations #lrnchat https://t.co/tKn5JYrCt9
8:49 PM trojan2019 @lrnchat A2) can be very closed minded, thus steering peers away from the instructor #lrnchat
8:49 PM rabbitoreg A2) “In reality…” #lrnchat
8:49 PM MelMilloway LOL whoops when I misread a question. #lrnchat
8:49 PM Joshing Sometimes they are a distraction. Or they become a bad influence on those who otherwise embrace learning. 😢#lrnchat https://t.co/GV8uDX9V5B
8:49 PM urbie #lrnchat A2a Depends.
8:49 PM busynessgirl A2) disruptive body language, loud sighs, off-topic rants/distractions, opinionated disagreements #lrnchat
8:49 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q2.) How does the reluctant learner disrupt learning? #lrnchat
8:50 PM MelMilloway A2 They cause an outbreak and you start to hear the same thing from all of your learners. #lrnchat
8:50 PM JaneBozarth A2 Reluctant people can always find a way to make something not work. #lrnchat
8:50 PM eLearninCyclops Q2) Discourages others… Doesn’t share knowledge with peers either. #lrnchat
8:50 PM rabbitoreg A2) Bringing up the exceptions. “Yes, that’s too but…” #lrnchat
8:51 PM JaneBozarth @ShafPatel Hi– glad you’re here tonight. #lrnchat
8:51 PM eLearninCyclops RT @JaneBozarth A2 Reluctant people can always find a way to make something not work. #lrnchat
8:51 PM willconstantine @rabbitoreg It should be that way if the solution is designed right 😉 #lrnchat
8:51 PM eLearninCyclops RT @rabbitoreg A2) Bringing up the exceptions. “Yes, that’s too but…” #lrnchat
8:51 PM trojan2019 @lrnchat A2) can make the learning environment a negative place for their peers because of them being combative of instruction #lrnchat
8:51 PM JaneBozarth RT @eLearninCyclops: Q2) Discourages others… Doesn’t share knowledge with peers either. #lrnchat
8:51 PM urbie #lrnchat A2b To what extent do her peers agree with the reluctant learner? They ask lots of questions. They don’t ask any questions.
8:51 PM JaneBozarth @eLearninCyclops Yes– don’t just hurt their own learning but interfere with others. #lrnchat
8:52 PM karadefrias @lrnchat A2: “Well, actually…” #lrnchat
8:52 PM eLearninCyclops Q2) Asks, “Can you just send me the PowerPoint slides?” #lrnchat
8:52 PM mohammadhassam @lrnchat A1) Pretends to learn. Just like an empty box. #lrnchat
8:52 PM dawnjmahoney I’ll say it. I’ll bet every single one of us is a reluctant learner, most of the time #lrnchat
8:53 PM urbie #lrnchat A2x Compliance training.. where a learner *has* to be in the course for two hours. Maybe they finish in 2 minutes & put feet up?
8:53 PM MelMilloway @dawnjmahoney Oh my gosh. *raises hand* I have to convince myself to just jump right in and not care if I mess up. #lrnchat
8:53 PM willconstantine @karadefrias @lrnchat Perhaps skeptic rather than recluse #lrnchat
8:53 PM kelly_smith01 Q2) No contribution, reluctant to collaborate, does not share accomplishments or knowledge gained #lrnchat
8:53 PM dawnjmahoney RT @eLearninCyclops Q2) Asks, “Can you just send me the PowerPoint slides?” <– ICK/Not reluctant to me. Idiotic. #lrnchat
8:53 PM eLearninCyclops @dawnjmahoney Well, some of the time. 😉 #lrnchat
8:53 PM willconstantine @mohammadhassam @lrnchat Yes! Motions! #lrnchat
8:54 PM lrnchat Q3.) What are some of the factors which distract learners from being fully engaged? #lrnchat
8:54 PM dawnjmahoney RT @lrnchat Q3.) What are some of the factors which distract learners from being fully engaged? #lrnchat
8:54 PM urbie RT @dawnjmahoney: I’ll say it. I’ll bet every single one of us is a reluctant learner, most of the time #lrnchat
8:54 PM busynessgirl RT @lrnchat: Q3.) What are some of the factors which distract learners from being fully engaged? #lrnchat
8:54 PM MelMilloway A3 I think the fear that they won’t do it the *right* way. #lrnchat https://t.co/yTwSs5Zxph
8:54 PM eLearninCyclops @dawnjmahoney True – Idiotic, but they are out there. #lrnchat
8:55 PM JaneBozarth @eLearninCyclops YES. OH MY YES. Before you even start. #lrnchat
8:55 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lrnchat Q3.) What are some of the factors which distract learners from being fully engaged? #lrnchat
8:55 PM willconstantine @busynessgirl Some of the behavior that can be contagious to the rest of the learners. #lrnchat
8:55 PM EdXUHRD A3) Well, disruptive learners can distract other learners from being engaged #lrnchat
8:55 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q3.) What are some of the factors which distract learners from being fully engaged? #lrnchat
8:55 PM urbie @dawnjmahoney i think you’re on to something. We shouldn’t dismiss a reluctant learner w/o asking ‘em what up? #lrnchat
8:55 PM ShafPatel @lrnchat A3: A boring topic, a bad instructor, general lack of interest in the topic being taught. #lrnchat
8:55 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q3.) What are some of the factors which distract learners from being fully engaged? #lrnchat
8:55 PM Joshing I’m not reluctant when it is something I choose to do. I also think there is a difference between reluctant & easil… https://t.co/iDWKg3thIH
8:55 PM trojan2019 @lrnchat A3) home life; even though we can’t control what goes on at their house, it effects our students in our class too #lrnchat
8:55 PM karadefrias @lrnchat A3: The business of everyday life: family, kids, Twitter, gov, groceries, Scandal, pets. #lrnchat
8:55 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q3.) What are some of the factors which distract learners from being fully engaged? #lrnchat
8:55 PM busynessgirl Life distracts learners from being engaged: environment, relationships, job dissatisfaction, financial issues, responsibilities. #lrnchat
8:56 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A3) Relevance. Delivery. #lrnchat
8:56 PM willconstantine Q3) SMARTPHONE! Anxiety over what they’re learning, the disruptive learner and the reluctant learner #lrnchat
8:56 PM rabbitoreg A3) No relevance.Either because topic, timing or role. #lrnchat
8:56 PM trojan2019 @lrnchat A3) personal problems; sometimes students need a minute, but all too often they are seen as students rather than people #lrnchat
8:56 PM busynessgirl And everyone on #lrnchat goes to check their phone … https://t.co/HHbhtwT5mF
8:56 PM KatieStroudPro Late to #lrnchat. What’d I miss?
8:56 PM EdXUHRD A3b) Time is a huge factor. If they can’t see how the learning exp. will provide immediate benefit to them, they check out #lrnchat
8:56 PM willconstantine @EdXUHRD Roger that! #lrnchat
8:56 PM urbie #lrnchat A3a Windows (the kind you look out of and think, “If only I’d called out today I could be riding my bike in the park, too..”
8:57 PM eLearninCyclops Q3) Being overwhelmed by the job and/or being overworked #lrnchat
8:57 PM urbie #lrnchat A3b It’s not readily apparent how the training can be used in their real life.
8:57 PM dawnjmahoney RT @eLearninCyclops Q3) Being overwhelmed by the job and/or being overworked #lrnchat
8:57 PM Joshing Outside responsibilities, the Internet, shiny things… 🎆🐶🎈What was I talking about again? #lrnchat https://t.co/HNQVLx06qf
8:57 PM EdXUHRD @willconstantine All it takes is one person to ruin it for everyone else! #lrnchat
8:57 PM zarstardesigns Nothing teaches you more about yourself than #parenting https://t.co/I3GZW4JFp3 #moms #mombiz #parentpreneurs #SAHM #Kids #lrnchat #momceos
8:57 PM willconstantine @ShafPatel @lrnchat And if they can use what’s in the topic #lrnchat
8:57 PM kelly_smith01 Q3) They feel like a rat trapped in a maze – no feeling of accomplishment or cannot identify a path #lrnchat
8:58 PM eLearninCyclops Q3) Cognitive overload #lrnchat
8:58 PM MelMilloway I think it’s also, do I have the right tools? Like I want to learn how to bake but I don’t have the tools :’D #lrnchat
8:58 PM willconstantine @Joshing I believe there is #lrnchat
8:58 PM KatieStroudPro Heck NO! I love to learn! #lrnchat Call me a nerd, but…well, I might be a nerd. 🤓 https://t.co/bVbPboXP1g
8:58 PM eLearninCyclops RT @kelly_smith01 Q3) They feel like a rat trapped in a maze – no feeling of accomplishment or cannot identify a path #lrnchat
8:58 PM willconstantine @MrKMaston @lrnchat Nice! #lrnchat
8:58 PM gabriellabroady RT @lrnchat: Q3.) What are some of the factors which distract learners from being fully engaged? #lrnchat
8:58 PM dawnjmahoney A3) I don’t think devices is really the answer these days/Many can multitask with them just fine/Emotionally checking out is harder #lrnchat
8:58 PM eLearninCyclops RT @MelMilloway I think it’s also, do I have the right tools? Like I want to learn how to bake but I don’t have the tools :’D #lrnchat
8:58 PM urbie @KatieStroudPro are you a reluctant learner? Late to #lrnchat
8:59 PM ShafPatel @MelMilloway Or I don’t have a big enough kitchen to actually bake what I want #lrnchat
8:59 PM eRowland_eLearn A3) perhaps some level of prejudice to learning or training. #lrnchat
8:59 PM willconstantine @busynessgirl Ah ha! 😉 #lrnchat
8:59 PM mdragoNYC @lrnchat A1) They sometimes can smell what’s been put before them is an attempt to hijack learning to fix a different problem #lrnchat
8:59 PM willconstantine @KatieStroudPro That’s exactly what a distracted learner might say! #lrnchat
8:59 PM MelMilloway @ShafPatel LOL yes! I need a kitchen island to do my best baking or cooking. I don’t have enough counter space. #lrnchat
9:00 PM urbie #lrnchat A3x Watercooler talk by their peers describing a painful learning experience. Maybe no clear way to apply learning back at work?
9:00 PM Joshing Another aspect is a trainer that is not empathetic to their audience and has no sense of their needs. #lrnchat https://t.co/HNQVLx06qf
9:00 PM mohammadhassam @lrnchat Lots of words on the screen, no highlighters, not having concise content, misalignments, bad audio or video quality #lrnchat
9:00 PM syamsularifin RT @Catlin_Tucker: Save Your Sanity w/Things to Revamp for Next Year List https://t.co/3dSVm6IwXL #edchat #adminchat #lrnchat #ntchat https…
9:00 PM trojan2019 @lrnchat A3) delivery of information; giving information is an intimidating way can discourage students from giving… https://t.co/vV19n8qNGy
9:00 PM dawnjmahoney A?) Reluctant = Rushing through the content to get done/Not to engage with the content & plan to tweak their own performance #lrnchat
9:00 PM gabriellabroady A3. Life. Disorganized facilitators, poorly designed activities, bosses calling u during training #lrnchat
9:00 PM gabriellabroady RT @eLearninCyclops: Q3) Cognitive overload #lrnchat
9:00 PM eLearninCyclops Q3) Courses that has nothing to do with your job or the goal of your org. #lrnchat
9:01 PM urbie #uhoh.. #pedagome’s on at the same time as #lrnchat .. yikes!!
9:01 PM MelMilloway Speaking of food. I’m off to get dinner, everyone! See you next week perhaps! It was great chatting. #lrnchat
9:01 PM urbie #lrnchat https://t.co/UNNwvQlD4z
9:01 PM rabbitoreg A3) Myths. Like learning styles, how much we remember, using 10% of the brain… #lrnchat
9:01 PM eLearninCyclops MT @dawnjmahoney A?) Reluctant = Rushing through the content to | NEXT #lrnchat
9:01 PM kelly_smith01 Q3/ Pressing a Next or arrow button #lrnchat
9:01 PM urbie #lrnchat https://t.co/CZ0FI9EH94
9:01 PM lrnchat Q4.) What are some risks associated with giving the learner a “sufficient level of control” when prompting engagement? #lrnchat
9:02 PM dawnjmahoney RT @lrnchat Q4.) What are some risks associated with giving the learner a “sufficient level of control” when prompting engagement? #lrnchat
9:02 PM eLearninCyclops RT @rabbitoreg A3) Myths. Like learning styles, how much we remember, using 10% of the brain… #lrnchat
9:02 PM KatieStroudPro @willconstantine You may have a point. #lrnchat
9:02 PM willconstantine @mdragoNYC @lrnchat An informed learner! #lrnchat
9:02 PM RitaWirtz @lrnchat Q3: What a Q! #lrnchat Think Dewey. Ss fully engaged and flow state when interested and have schema!
9:02 PM KatieStroudPro A0) I learned that people think you’re a nut job when they catch your bike climbing the walls. #lrnchat https://t.co/B54uzAjIah
9:02 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lrnchat Q4.) What are some risks associated with giving the learner a “sufficient level of control” when prompting engagement? #lrnchat
9:02 PM willconstantine @gabriellabroady These are all real life problems too! #lrnchat
9:03 PM EdXUHRD A4) The possibility of a “hostile takeover” by a participant who “knows more” than the facilitator! #lrnchat
9:03 PM RitaWirtz @EdXUHRD A3b: Truth. #lrnchat
9:03 PM trojan2019 @lrnchat A4) misuse of power by the learner, biting off more they can chew then getting behind #lrnchat
9:03 PM eLearninCyclops Q4) Taking away control doesn’t keep them, relevance and “hooking” them does. #lrnchat
9:03 PM urbie #lrnchat A4a That conversation should have happened early in the analysis [if contractor then in the SOW/contracting] phase..
9:03 PM rabbitoreg A4) They would ask the questions that they are really want to know. #CorporateBS #lrnchat
9:04 PM dawnjmahoney A4) Involve them #lrnchat
9:04 PM willconstantine Q4) can derail the entire experience for others and even themselves…until they realize it’s too late! #lrnchat
9:04 PM ShafPatel @lrnchat A4: You have to give them some level of control or they will shut down and not want to learn at all. #lrnchat
9:04 PM gabriellabroady A5. They might break it (tongue in cheek) #lrnchat
9:04 PM Joshing Losing control of the class to the person that is reluctant and/or a distraction and therefore losing the rest of t… https://t.co/2FNsJnC03w
9:04 PM urbie @KatieStroudPro Are there outtakes to go with the bike climbing walls? Security camera footage? That’d be cool. #lrnchat
9:04 PM gabriellabroady RT @EdXUHRD: A4) The possibility of a “hostile takeover” by a participant who “knows more” than the facilitator! #lrnchat
9:04 PM mohammadhassam @lrnchat A4) The biggest risk I think of is losing tracks and matrixes. #lrnchat
9:04 PM KatieStroudPro A1) class clown, procrastinator, bully, know-it-all #lrnchat Am I missing any? https://t.co/Hm2U5G2Uu9
9:04 PM dawnjmahoney A4) Andragogy is a real thing and we need to pay attention to it through our needs assessment/Dev/Facilitation/Evaluation/Iteration #lrnchat
9:04 PM WillWorkLearn A4) Research suggests learner control is not beneficial: https://t.co/TIP0Q0fEFC #lrnchat #driveby… https://t.co/Ne9oOQgCaq
9:04 PM willconstantine @RitaWirtz @lrnchat Interesting perspective #lrnchat
9:05 PM gabriellabroady A4. Beware of rabbit holes #lrnchat
9:05 PM willconstantine @KatieStroudPro Or about to jump! #lrnchat
9:05 PM RitaWirtz @dawnjmahoney Interesting! I think there has to be Schema, interest, a need to know, motivation & knowing what & how to do it. #lrnchat
9:06 PM KatieStroudPro A2) Disrupt? They cause teachers/facilitators to design for the lowest common denominator #lrnchat https://t.co/9wFo9E0AzV
9:06 PM EINS_Institute RT @WillWorkLearn: A4) Research suggests learner control is not beneficial: https://t.co/TIP0Q0fEFC #lrnchat #driveby #doingmystupidaccount…
9:06 PM willconstantine @KatieStroudPro Sounds like a cast for a movie! #lrnchat
9:06 PM EdXUHRD @gabriellabroady Sometimes that rabbit hole can be good! If a Q is asked that spurs a new/deeper discussion. But still risky! #lrnchat
9:06 PM urbie Yes! #lrnchat https://t.co/lQxHfU7z8j
9:06 PM trojan2019 @lrnchat A4) control is important, but If it is not used productively the whole class may become a mad house #lrnchat
9:06 PM kelly_smith01 RT @WillWorkLearn: A4) Research suggests learner control is not beneficial: https://t.co/TIP0Q0fEFC #lrnchat #driveby #doingmystupidaccount…
9:07 PM KatieStroudPro A2) They also cause pros in the field to find the most enjoyable and easiest way to present info. #lrnchat https://t.co/9wFo9EibYv
9:07 PM urbie @dawnjmahoney Speaking of adults.. does a reluctant learner acting out appear childish? #lrnchat
9:08 PM eklavyasinha @lrnchat A4: You could win the battle and lose the war! We need to ask what will be in the ‘greater common good’ & act accordingly. #lrnchat
9:08 PM JaneBozarth Reminder: Sometimes reluctant “learners” have every right to be. We’ve all been sent to stuff we didn’t want/need, haven’t we? #lrnchat
9:08 PM urbie #geniushour #pbl #lrnchat https://t.co/YPoKMQH5l9
9:08 PM eRowland_eLearn A4) well the risks stay the same. They can still be disengaged. More “faith” must be given to the learner. #lrnchat
9:08 PM KatieStroudPro A3) Personal issues for sure. Chaotic environment. Stale environment. Unused channels for receiving info. #lrnchat https://t.co/QBIavPiloV
9:08 PM WillWorkLearn #lrnchat #driveby Well, sure, there may be exceptions. But hostility isn’t a given is it? Maybe good learning desig… https://t.co/SHW0HaMQIQ
9:08 PM lrnchat Q5.) How can you make your own excitement for learning more contagious to others? #lrnchat
9:09 PM JaneBozarth Did I miss the part where we asked WHY they are reluctant? Is there a good reason? #lrnchat
9:09 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lrnchat Q5.) How can you make your own excitement for learning more contagious to others? #lrnchat
9:09 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q5.) How can you make your own excitement for learning more contagious to others? #lrnchat
9:09 PM willconstantine @eklavyasinha @lrnchat Interesting way of thinking about that! #lrnchat
9:09 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q5.) How can you make your own excitement for learning more contagious to others? #lrnchat
9:09 PM KatieStroudPro A4) A certain amount of control is another thing to “learn.” Engage all their senses instead. #lrnchat https://t.co/uXibCmcdiK
9:09 PM gabriellabroady RT @eLearninCyclops: RT @lrnchat Q5.) How can you make your own excitement for learning more contagious to others? #lrnchat
9:10 PM WillWorkLearn Hey #lrnchat, I might as well see if you know anyone who wants to save American democracy. https://t.co/PN1fGvkNDI #nowmyaccounting #sigh
9:10 PM ShafPatel @lrnchat A5: Make the topic more interesting to them: be inthusiastic. Give them a reason for them to learn and explain why. #lrnchat
9:10 PM busynessgirl A5) Learning structured as a puzzles to solve is hard to ignore. Even the reluctant get sucked in. Fun to watch. #lrnchat
9:10 PM willconstantine Q5) define what success looks like, allow them to feel it and see it #lrnchat
9:10 PM eLearninCyclops Q5) We’ll fix up the old barn and put on a show. #lrnchat
9:10 PM Joshing Passion! Empathy! Being Genuine! #lrnchat https://t.co/AhBGGDh1qc
9:10 PM gabriellabroady A5. Make a mistake-fast-and laugh about it; drives safe environment #lrnchat
9:10 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q5.) How can you make your own excitement for learning more contagious to others? #lrnchat
9:10 PM willconstantine You all have such great responses! #lrnchat
9:10 PM eLearninCyclops RT @willconstantine Q5) define what success looks like, allow them to feel it and see it #lrnchat
9:11 PM trojan2019 @lrnchat A5) by being real with your students; don’t “love learning” because you’re a teacher. Love and share it be… https://t.co/DAATJ19CCS
9:11 PM rabbitoreg RT @WillWorkLearn: Hey #lrnchat, I might as well see if you know anyone who wants to save American democracy. https://t.co/PN1fGvkNDI #nowm…
9:11 PM gabriellabroady RT @Joshing: Passion! Empathy! Being Genuine! #lrnchat https://t.co/AhBGGDh1qc
9:12 PM eLearninCyclops Q5) Share the exciting things you are learning, how you are applying it, and how it has benefited you. #lrnchat
9:12 PM rabbitoreg A5) Show them the money. #lrnchat
9:12 PM JaneBozarth Show how it solves their problem #lrnchat
9:12 PM trojan2019 @lrnchat A5) I’ve had teachers that LOVED learning, rather it be science or mechanics. Learning sparked their inter… https://t.co/72FATlfJxs
9:12 PM EdXUHRD A5) Authenticity goes a long way! I like to emphasize how curiosity leads to discovery…w/o it, there’s no intrinsic motivation #lrnchat
9:12 PM urbie #lrnchat A5a I like employing 1 of @burgessdave’s #tlap hooks. A story [case study] raises curiosity & fire up innate sense of “I got this”
9:13 PM gabriellabroady A5. Bring on the ‘real’–“what would you do” scenarios #lrnchat
9:13 PM willconstantine @rabbitoreg 5’s, 10’s or 20’s? #lrnchat
9:13 PM EdXUHRD A5b) some people have a higher natural “need for cognition.” Hard to implant that in someone if they don’t have it already! #lrnchat
9:13 PM willconstantine @JaneBozarth Duh! #lrnchat
9:13 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A5) Consistent behaviour and connection. Being interested in what others do and connecting it to the bigger picture. #lrnchat
9:13 PM UpAndAtom2 A5: show that you’re passionate about what you’re teaching. If you are, your audience will be too. #lrnchat
9:13 PM urbie #lrnchat A5b Crime scene tape can go a long way towards revving up excitement. Wrap it around a chalk figure of a [not trained] victim?
9:13 PM trojan2019 @lrnchat A5) remind them that you are continuously learning, and give them real examples #lrnchat
9:13 PM KatieStroudPro A5) Ask them to share their story! #lrnchat https://t.co/9Qox9tdQiq
9:14 PM rabbitoreg A5) Street credit. Stories. Personal ones. Emotion. #lrnchat
9:14 PM willconstantine @gabriellabroady Take it a step further and have them actually do it…closer to performance and their job #lrnchat
9:14 PM KatieStroudPro A5) Seriously, if we make it about showing them how much WE love learning, we’ll never pull it out of THEM #lrnchat https://t.co/9Qox9tdQiq
9:14 PM eRowland_eLearn A5) share the kool aid. Get buy in. #lrnchat
9:14 PM JaneBozarth @willconstantine Yeah you’d be surprised. Telling people something is “AWESOME!” doesn’t really make them leap up and embrace it. #lrnchat
9:15 PM dawnjmahoney @urbie Once built a course w/chalk outline on the floor/Crime tape on the door until I let attendees in/”Death of Customer Service” #lrnchat
9:15 PM willconstantine @UpAndAtom2 That is not always the case. The value or problem they are solving will have more impact #lrnchat
9:15 PM dawnjmahoney A5) Give learners the info, tools – Get out of their way to learn as they need to #lrnchat
9:15 PM lrnchat Q6.) As a learner what do you do when you need to recharge or re-engage during a learning effort? #lrnchat
9:16 PM ShafPatel @JaneBozarth @willconstantine Right, they’re not going to understand how awesome it is until you explain how and why. #lrnchat
9:16 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q6.) As a learner what do you do when you need to recharge or re-engage during a learning effort? #lrnchat
9:16 PM dawnjmahoney RT @lrnchat Q6.) As a learner what do you do when you need to recharge or re-engage during a learning effort? #lrnchat
9:16 PM gabriellabroady RT @lrnchat: Q6.) As a learner what do you do when you need to recharge or re-engage during a learning effort? #lrnchat
9:16 PM rabbitoreg A6) I watch a TED talk. #lrnchat
9:16 PM ApraRalli RT @lrnchat: Q3.) What are some of the factors which distract learners from being fully engaged? #lrnchat
9:16 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A6) Drink wine. Failing that, take a rest. Meditate. Reflect. Exercise. Whatever floats your boat #lrnchat
9:16 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A6) Drink wine. Failing that, take a rest. Meditate. Reflect. Exercise. Whatever floats your boat #lrnchat
9:16 PM gabriellabroady A6. Stand. #lrnchat
9:17 PM trojan2019 @lrnchat A6) this is the hardest for me. I look for something I can connect to. If it’s not there I ask questions u… https://t.co/Tmbpfv8lUU
9:17 PM ShafPatel @lrnchat A6: Take a break, eat, maybe even do something refreshing that doesn’t require learning. Take a walk. #lrnchat
9:17 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q6.) As a learner what do you do when you need to recharge or re-engage during a learning effort? #lrnchat
9:17 PM busynessgirl Try to identify and write down a couple key learnings, actions to take as a result of learning… #lrnchat https://t.co/P9QVJpxicE
9:17 PM gabriellabroady @willconstantine Yep #lrnchat
9:17 PM willconstantine Q6) I will step away first, then reflect on why this is important. Shouldn’t have to convince yourself…unless compliance 😉 #lrnchat
9:17 PM JaneBozarth Try to find a new challenge with it. (See Jane Google: “Long Cool Woman Ukulele”) . #lrnchat
9:18 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A6) Also, let’s avoid calling people “learners” please? Rephrase question to “when learning, what do you do…” #lrnchat
9:18 PM Joshing Take a short break to refresh and refocus. #lrnchat https://t.co/ovh1zSyO2c
9:18 PM dawnjmahoney A6) Step back/apply it to real world situation & how I will use the learning–if I will #lrnchat
9:18 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q6.) As a learner what do you do when you need to recharge or re-engage during a learning effort? #lrnchat
9:18 PM JaneBozarth Nope, sticking with it. #lrnchat
9:19 PM trojan2019 @lrnchat A6) I’ve had to completely disengage, explore on my own for a minute or two, and then reconnect. #lrnchat
9:19 PM KatieStroudPro A6) Go for a nature walk. It reduces the intrinsic cognitive load (gives your brain a break). #lrnchat https://t.co/yikoEFTNpz
9:19 PM urbie #lrnchat A6a I was that reluctant learner a while back when I started doing broadcast/video project management. “It ain’t design” said i..
9:19 PM ShafPatel @MrKMaston Why? Everybody’s a learner. #lrnchat
9:19 PM willconstantine Q6) Netflix and chill! 😉 #lrnchat
9:19 PM EdXUHRD A6) Depends on the type of learning. ILT? Take a walk, cuppa coffee. eLearning? Step away. On 2nd thouggh, I guess they’re the same #lrnchat
9:20 PM urbie #lrnchat A6b What helped me to engage with it and [slowly] learn the ropes was being reminded that it’s the same food chain.. helping train.
9:20 PM kelly_smith01 Q6) Curse. Throw soft pillows. Look at cute dog videos/pictures – Find Franklin #lrnchat
9:20 PM andykfoley Q5) smile. be honest. care about what you are learning and speak about it with passion! #lrnchat
9:20 PM eRowland_eLearn A6) remember why Im doing this. #lrnchat
9:20 PM busynessgirl I’ve got to bow out of #lrnchat. Sorry to bail early. Please check out our product launch video for Coursetune? https://t.co/b4Ff7ruOxT
9:20 PM willconstantine @kelly_smith01 Franklin the turtle? #lrnchat
9:21 PM urbie #lrnchat A6c In the military [Navy] we’d have occasional stand downs. Back to basics. Sometimes involving volleyball & topless BBQs. #ground
9:21 PM eRowland_eLearn A6) Play some games. #lrnchat
9:21 PM andykfoley joining the #lrnchat late tonight – just catching up now!
9:21 PM urbie #lrnchat A6x As a learner.. realize it’s not a perfect world. Deal with the drag in the moment [take notes, persevere] & email author..
9:22 PM kelly_smith01 @willconstantine Franklin the tri color corgi on Facebook #lrnchat
9:22 PM JaneBozarth @andykfoley HI– good to see you here. #lrnchat
9:22 PM willconstantine @andykfoley It’s never too late! #lrnchat
9:22 PM lrnchat Q7) What is something that you learned tonight, will research further, or will try based on tonights discussion? #lrnchat
9:22 PM urbie @rabbitoreg I was stationed on NavCommSta Diego Garcia.. men only at the time [circa 1978]. Can you say hot & humid? No tees. #lrnchat
9:23 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q7) What is something that you learned tonight, will research further, or will try based on tonights discussion? #lrnchat
9:23 PM andykfoley Q6) drink a glass of water and take a big stretch 🙂 #Lrnchat
9:23 PM rabbitoreg A7) Reluctant to say that. #lrnchat
9:23 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q7) What is something that you learned tonight, will research further, or will try based on tonights discussion? #lrnchat
9:24 PM EdXUHRD A7) Going to be more aware of my own attitudes/behaviors when I’m in the learner’s seat #lrnchat
9:24 PM lrnchat QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:24 PM mohammadhassam @lrnchat A5) By telling them the benefits #lrnchat
9:24 PM willconstantine Q7) Focus on the problem not the pizazz! #lrnchat
9:24 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:24 PM trojan2019 @lrnchat A7) I want to try looking for those reluctant learners. Being a pre-service teacher, this is something I n… https://t.co/0G5ny6eioX
9:25 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:25 PM andykfoley @JaneBozarth I am going to try to always be on now! 🙂 #lrnchat
9:25 PM JaneBozarth QWrap Jane, still wondering how someone with no real skills, aside from self-marketing, keeps finding gainful employment #lrnchat
9:25 PM urbie #lrnchat A7 This. I’ll read up on it. Is it different with #pedagogy? I hear this is a good thing with kids. So yes… https://t.co/RBerWlshWa
9:25 PM urbie RT @WillWorkLearn: A4) Research suggests learner control is not beneficial: https://t.co/TIP0Q0fEFC #lrnchat #driveby #doingmystupidaccount…
9:25 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:25 PM andykfoley @willconstantine True story! Always so much to read up and learn! #lrnchat
9:25 PM dawnjmahoney AWrap) If you are at #ATD17 I will be there/Also UW PD Distance Learning Conf & eACH Conf in Toronto #lrnchat
9:26 PM willconstantine QWrap) Will Constantine, check out my latest contribution! https://t.co/okHfdFDw4a #lrnchat
9:26 PM rabbitoreg AWrap) Two weeks before #atd2017 Don’t be reluctant to say hi there! #lrnchat
9:26 PM urbie #lrnchat Awrap.. urbie, learning experience designer. I’ll be in Atlanta for #atd2017 next week. Lots of #periscope & #snaps #drone too!
9:26 PM JaneBozarth Qwrap Jane, taking the “show your work” show next to Montreal, Portland OR, Portland Maine, NoLa, Vegas. #wol #lrnchat
9:26 PM trojan2019 @lrnchat A7) I learned that we can all be reluctant learners. With that we should all be able to connect with them. #lrnchat
9:26 PM unevoie RT @urbie: #lrnchat A6x As a learner.. realize it’s not a perfect world. Deal with the drag in the moment [take notes, persevere] & email a…
9:26 PM Joshing Goodnight all! I’m looking forward to #ATD2017 in just over a week and seeing some #lrnchat people IRL. https://t.co/Zd4oWew0U1
9:27 PM willconstantine @JaneBozarth Hmmmmm #lrnchat
9:27 PM EdXUHRD AWrap) Ed, Grad Student/L&D Manager. Thanks for sharing your insights with this Twitter novice! #lrnchat
9:27 PM KatieStroudPro Wrap) I’m writing a book about using story to design training (not to design training with story) #lrnchat https://t.co/BLdew3wCb4
9:27 PM mohammadhassam @lrnchat A6) Will do some changes in design depending what necessary. #lrnchat
9:27 PM Atif__Shahab RT @urbie: #lrnchat A6a I was that reluctant learner a while back when I started doing broadcast/video project management. “It ain’t design…
9:27 PM willconstantine Bye bye #lrnchat
9:27 PM urbie #lrnchat A3a Up front [analysis, design] talk to lots of people. #designthinking is good. Maybe something like #innovationcompass #input
9:28 PM KatieStroudPro Wrap) Also, keynoting at https://t.co/eyvXYu3pH6 In June. Check it out! #lrnchat
9:28 PM trojan2019 @lrnchat AWrap) This was my first Twitter chat! I loved it and learned so much from all of you!
❤ Jennifer
#lrnchat
9:29 PM JaneBozarth Jane, just back from vacay. Here’s my beach reading: #lrnchat https://t.co/nztFjyzx4r
9:29 PM KatieStroudPro @willconstantine Enjoyed having you in #lrnchat
9:30 PM mdragoNYC @lrnchat A6) Step away, if possible. Change of scenery. Something different, even for a few minutes. Get up, move around. #lrnchat
9:30 PM andykfoley Q7) I’ll make a list of thing I hate as a learner + make sure to avoid when designing learning. I’ll read through #Lrnchat responses too!
9:30 PM lrnchat Thanks everyone for joining #lrnchat tonight. See you next week! Look for weekly transcripts at https://t.co/ijNIXqiGWl
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