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January 20, 2012 by

#lrnchat is an online chat over the social messaging service Twitter. #lrnchat is on Thursdays at 8:30-9:30pm ET/5:30-6:30pm PT.

Participants are people interested in the topic of learning from one another and who want to discuss how to help other people learn in formal, informal, social and mobile ways. This summer we aim to renew our commitment to steer clear of topics that are more “training department” oriented (including topics around LMS and instructional design) and focus this time on rather on how people learn, what they learn, and what we’re learning.

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We look forward to learning with you.

Transcript – May 21, 2015: Authority and Expertise

May 28, 2015 by

#lrnchat is an online chat over the social messaging service Twitter. It is held on Thursdays at 8:30-9:30pm ET/5:30-6:30pm PT.

Participants are people interested in the topic of learning from one another and who want to discuss how to help other people learn in formal, informal, social and mobile ways. We aim to steer clear of topics that are more “training department” oriented and focus on how people learn, what they learn, and what we’re learning.  If you an idea for a topic that you would like to suggest for #lrnchat, please feel free to reach out to any of the Chat Hosts.

This Week’s Chat Questions

  • What is “expertise”?
  • Is there/what is the difference between authority and expertise?
  • How do you determine who is an “expert”? What qualities/behaviors set them apart?
  • How can you tell someone is NOT an expert/authority?
  • How do you (personally) develop expertise?
  • Is it /what is the expert’s role in sharing with others/helping novices?
  • In a world with ever-accelerating information, what’s the future of the expert/expertise?
  • What did you learn tonight?

Chat Transcript

NOTE: Tweets are listed in the order they were posted and are shown in Eastern Time. To visit the actual posting for a particular tweet, click the associated user name for the posting.

8:30 PM lrnchat Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
8:30 PM MelMilloway RT @JD_Dillon: Hey #ATD2015 crowd! Keep the convo going with #lrnchat …. Starting NOW!
8:30 PM caitsteinbach RT @lrnchat: #lrnchat tonight! Theme: Authority & Expertise. Join us! 8:30 pm ET 5:30pm PT, Friday 10:30 am AEST
8:31 PM lrnchat Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat
8:31 PM write2tg Joining #lrnchat now to get my weekly doze of inspiration. Today’s topic: “Authority & Expertise”
8:31 PM MelMilloway I am here back from #Atd2015 and ready for #lrnchat keeping on keeping on.
8:31 PM JaneBozarth @trainersleaders Hi Paul. How’s things? #lrnchat
8:31 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
8:31 PM JD_Dillon Tired … That’s about it for this week … But a good tired … Mostly … #lrnchat https://t.co/uviGBdv7Vf
8:31 PM trainersleaders Intro: Paul Signorelli, San Francisco-based writer-trainer-instructional designer-consultant; immersed in #ConnectedLearning #lrnchat
8:31 PM JaneBozarth @JD_Dillon YOU didn’t even have to get on a plane… #lrnchat
8:32 PM MelMilloway @JD_Dillon Are you and @willconstantine doing #lrnchat F2F?!
8:32 PM caitsteinbach Haven’t made a #lrnchat in a few weeks! Excited to tune in
8:32 PM Jovianshadow Hi, Simon, in Canberra. Working on learning how to use the Adapt tool. #lrnchat @lrnchat
8:32 PM JD_Dillon JD in Orlando, FL. Learning geek and sharer – recuperating from and reflecting on #ATD2015. #lrnchat https://t.co/xXi6qkaU3v
8:32 PM Ruthie_HB Good evening #lrnchat! Ruth here in upstate NY. Learning enthusiast.
8:32 PM ryantracey Ryan from Sydney, glad to make it here again after a while. #lrnchat
8:32 PM TriciaRansom RT @lrnchat: Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat
8:33 PM OhThatRachel Hey #lrnchat! I’m Rachel, ID & e-learning dev, working w/ some awesome clients and finishing up a blog post as we chat!
8:33 PM MelMilloway Melissa here from Philly. Working on a post about #ATD2015 on what happens at ATD stays on social media. #lrnchat https://t.co/izV6EPgJfC
8:33 PM SimonBlairTrain Hi, another Simon, this one in Ontario. Projects: work: prepping for our LMS, home: finishing my veggie garden. #lrnchat
8:33 PM write2tg Good evening everyone! Taruna Goel or TG as some would like to call me. Instructional Designer, Program Manager from Vancouver BC #lrnchat
8:33 PM InfinityTRS Jeff from Venice, Fl. Working on building my own stock photos for projects. #lrnchat
8:34 PM TriciaRansom Hi, this is Tricia in the San Fran Bay area rocking out to Bob Marley and LOVING my work #lrnchat
8:34 PM jyoti__gupta #Lrnchat Doing good. Bummed that Survivor is over. Very interesting to see the transformative learning that happens on that show.
8:34 PM JaneBozarth @caitsteinbach Hi Caitlin good to see you! #lrnchat
8:34 PM lrnchat Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:34 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:34 PM rfs426 Ryan from Round Rock, TX gearing up for the summer professional learning season. #lrnchat
8:34 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:34 PM MelMilloway @sueprendo Hi Sue!!! #lrnchat
8:34 PM TriciaRansom RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:35 PM Ruthie_HB RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:35 PM trainersleaders q0) Learned, this morning, that getting up by 6:30am to write left me more energized than an extra hour of sleep would have #lrnchat
8:35 PM sueprendo #lrnchat created a video about my experience on the #ATD2015 Backchannel, stay tuned!
8:35 PM write2tg @sueprendo Doing good! Nice to see you again. Can we say ‘see’ in #lrnchat? :)
8:35 PM rfs426 Q0: Learned how to make Compliance training “fun” today. We’ll see how that works out. #lrnchat
8:35 PM jyoti__gupta #Lrnchat – Passions – curriculum! Projects – trying to get over a blogging rut, which has been bad since graduating (ugh)
8:35 PM JaneBozarth Q0 learned that 10 years out “elearning on a shoestring” (my first book) is still relevant if not current… #lrnchat
8:35 PM kelly_smith01 Where are the singing cats? #lrnchat
8:35 PM OhThatRachel A0) I’m in the process of learning how to make a good blog header graphic and failing a little ;) #lrnchat
8:35 PM JaneBozarth Q0 learned a bit more about flat design and web accessibility #lrnchat
8:35 PM write2tg A0) Learned and reflected about how we need to remove the stigma attached to failure and make failure our friend. #lrnchat
8:35 PM Jovianshadow Lots of learning this week. Learnt that being an eLearning dev within a secure gov network is a pain in the [redacted] @lrnchat #lrnchat
8:35 PM MelMilloway I learned way too much at #ATD2015 this week and found some awesome tools like Umu. #lrnchat https://t.co/dT82CuXoRI
8:35 PM ndyanksWWE RT @BritannicaLearn: 📱 Should kids be able to use their phones in class? What do you think? 📱 #edtech #edchat #lrnchat #blendchat #elearnin…
8:36 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A0) The old adage ‘walk a mile in someone’s shoes’ really does apply, especially when unusual exec. decisions are made #lrnchat
8:36 PM TriciaRansom q0) Learned listening/dancing to Bob Marley whilst working makes work a blast #lrnchat
8:36 PM JaneBozarth @rfs426 well how very alliterative #lrnchat
8:36 PM JD_Dillon A0) Well it was a conference week … I’m going with the continued value of a strong, engaged PLN. #lrnchat https://t.co/JeiMK4UZKF
8:36 PM Ruthie_HB Q0) It’s always hard for me to pinpoint what I’ve learned. Busy-ness leaves less time for reflection!#lrnchat
8:36 PM InfinityTRS Q0) I learned it’s possible to have four Monday’s in a week!!! #lrnchat
8:36 PM MelMilloway @sueprendo OMG I can’t wait to see it. That’s very clever. #lrnchat
8:36 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:36 PM joansie74 @lrnchat #lrnchat changing how we approach l&d is my passion #jem15
8:36 PM trainersleaders Reassuring! MT @JaneBozarth learned that 10 years out “elearning on a shoestring” (my 1st book) is still relevant if not current #lrnchat
8:36 PM Quinnovator time for #lrnchat, Clark Quinn, L&D improvement instigator, consultant/author/speaker, cognitive explorer, Walnut Creek CA
8:36 PM theASIDEblog Looking forward to #lrnchat tonight on expertise and authority.
8:36 PM hjarche @lrnchat I learned how to assemble a lawnmower, in spite of the manual #lrnchat
8:36 PM JaneBozarth RT @hjarche: @lrnchat I learned how to assemble a lawnmower, in spite of the manual #lrnchat
8:37 PM JD_Dillon A0) I also learned that @MelMilloway is very disappointed if you don’t give her a ride in a classic mustang … Darn newer cars! #lrnchat
8:37 PM JaneBozarth @hjarche I so get that. #lrnchat
8:37 PM rfs426 A0: Also learned today that I love @asana to manage my teams. #lrnchat
8:37 PM MelMilloway @JD_Dillon But we didn’t learn how to properly take a selfie. #lrnchat
8:37 PM caitsteinbach Q0: currently relearning how difficult it is to #lrnchat on my phone. How does @JD_Dillon do it?! https://t.co/JQOciy1TT4
8:37 PM JaneBozarth @rfs426 say more? #lrnchat
8:37 PM TriciaRansom q0) learned that America is not post-racial thanks to google maps and POTUS on twitter. sigh #lrnchat
8:37 PM SimonBlairTrain A0: I learned that goats can stand on their hind legs if there’s chicken feed involved. #lrnchat
8:37 PM willconstantine Hi everyone! #lrnchat
8:37 PM ryantracey RT @Jovianshadow: Lots of learning this week. Learnt that being an eLearning dev within a secure gov network is a pain in the [redacted] @…
8:38 PM JD_Dillon @caitsteinbach @lrnchat SkillZ … :-) #lrnchat
8:38 PM JaneBozarth @trainersleaders well it’s sure a popular topic… #lrnchat
8:38 PM brunowinck Q0) Learned about Badges, Promises (the one for coding:) #Lrnchat
8:38 PM rfs426 @JaneBozarth Anything to move conversations out of email streams is great for me. @asana does that. #lrnchat
8:38 PM lrnchat Q1) What is “expertise”? #lrnchat
8:38 PM gabriellabroady A0. Learned about ASME standards for CAD design. #lrnchat
8:38 PM MelMilloway @JD_Dillon and we almost died in a M Night film like style on the way to the airport. #lrnchat
8:38 PM jsuzcampos Good evening, Jeannette Campos, from northern Virginia #lrnchat
8:38 PM willconstantine What a week in Orlando! #lrnchat
8:38 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q1) What is “expertise”? #lrnchat
8:38 PM TriciaRansom we all want to know how @JD_Dillon #lrnchat on his phone
8:38 PM ryantracey @brunowinck Learned about Credly :P #lrnchat
8:38 PM Quinnovator a0) learned that a soft-shell crab po-boy LA-style is yummy (310 eatery) #lrnchat
8:38 PM sueprendo #lrnchat cool new SoMe tools +how to make explainer videos. Oh and the value of post its during task analysis! https://t.co/fbUNjZEuiR
8:38 PM MelMilloway @willconstantine Hi again! #lrnchat
8:38 PM TriciaRansom Hey…what’s up? @willconstantine: Hi everyone! #lrnchat
8:38 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q1) What is “expertise”? #lrnchat
8:39 PM jsuzcampos Q1) What is expertise? Deep knowledge and experience with a topic, subject, or skill. #lrnchat
8:39 PM TheRealAirton A0) learned that I walked way to much @ #ATD2015 #lrnchat
8:39 PM TriciaRansom RT @lrnchat: Q1) What is “expertise”? #lrnchat
8:39 PM gabriellabroady RT @lrnchat: Q1) What is “expertise”? #lrnchat
8:39 PM brunowinck Bruno, Night Owl Coder, coding from far far away central France *wave* #lrnchat
8:39 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q1) What is “expertise”? #lrnchat
8:39 PM Ruthie_HB RT @lrnchat: Q1) What is “expertise”? #lrnchat
8:39 PM trainersleaders q1) Expertise is that flimsy, gauzy veil behind which we sometimes believe we can hide–until a breeze pushes it aside #lrnchat
8:39 PM patswiney @lrnchat I learned to take the positive approach even if I’m not sure. It works out in the end #lrnchat
8:39 PM jyoti__gupta @Ruthie_HB I have that problem too this week. Brain so stuffed that it’s a mess. #lrnchat
8:39 PM kmarranzino Hey all. Feels like forever since I #lrnchat -ed with you.
8:39 PM Quinnovator a1) expertise is a level of understanding that goes beyond being able to do, to being able to improve on #lrnchat
8:39 PM Jovianshadow I was asked in an interview once “what are you an expert in?” my response “nothing, but I am very good at lots of things” #lrnchat @lrnchat
8:39 PM TheRealAirton A0) learned that just cuz you can present doesn’t me you should #lrnchat
8:39 PM sueprendo #lrnchat being able to perform automatically. Using that fact to innovate. https://t.co/EnPI0CWU6D
8:40 PM JaneBozarth @TheRealAirton lol #lrnchat
8:40 PM ryantracey A1) Knowing more about something than other people. Therefore, apparently I’m an IT expert. #lrnchat
8:40 PM JD_Dillon A1) Subjective but recognized capability from which others can benefit #lrnchat https://t.co/LyQtmtzThG
8:40 PM TriciaRansom q1) Expertise is what makes a SME not the best teacher/facilitator. Too much embedded knowledge #lrnchat
8:40 PM JaneBozarth RT @ryantracey: A1) Knowing more about something than other people. Therefore, apparently I’m an IT expert. #lrnchat
8:40 PM SimonBlairTrain A1: Expertise is being able to handle the unexpected, not just the expected. #lrnchat
8:40 PM urbie #lrnchat urbie, education engineer. Learned today about the difference between design & engineering. Former creates, latter prevents failure
8:40 PM JaneBozarth RT @urbie: #lrnchat urbie, education engineer. Learned today about the difference between design & engineering. Former creates, latter prev…
8:40 PM willconstantine Q1) not being an expert! #lrnchat
8:40 PM gabriellabroady A1. Knowing enough about something to be a resource-and enough to know you don’t know everything! #lrnchat
8:40 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q1) What is “expertise”? #lrnchat
8:40 PM Quinnovator a1) expertise is the ability to not only do, but to understand why and how in flexible and adaptive ways #lrnchat
8:40 PM patswiney @lrnchat A1) expertise is an expert opinion on a subject or topic #lrnchat
8:40 PM ryantracey RT @SimonBlairTrain: A1: Expertise is being able to handle the unexpected, not just the expected. #lrnchat
8:40 PM OhThatRachel A1) I would have to go beyond just saying “knowing a lot” but actually being validated in that knowledge. #lrnchat
8:40 PM kmarranzino RT @lrnchat: Q1) What is “expertise”? #lrnchat
8:40 PM hjarche @lrnchat expertise today is access to a diverse, giving, knowledgeable professional network of trusted relationships #lrnchat
8:41 PM Quinnovator a1) expertise is such a great ability to do that one can’t even articulate how! #lrnchat
8:41 PM MelMilloway A1 That’s a good ? because I feel like someone pushes it to the next level. Every area has a dif definition #lrnchat https://t.co/Qc2GcAmK26
8:41 PM JD_Dillon Quote from @willconstantine (sitting next to me): “I can’t listen to you. I’m tweeting right now.” #lrnchat
8:41 PM gabriellabroady RT @JD_Dillon: A1) Subjective but recognized capability from which others can benefit #lrnchat https://t.co/LyQtmtzThG
8:41 PM JaneBozarth @SimonBlairTrain yes! Expertise often means exception handling #lrnchat
8:41 PM odguru RT @hjarche: @lrnchat expertise today is access to a diverse, giving, knowledgeable professional network of trusted relationships #lrnchat
8:41 PM write2tg A1) Expertise is perhaps closer to wisdom. Definitely more than just knowledge or skill. #lrnchat
8:41 PM jyoti__gupta a1) actually knowing what you’re talking about – expertise #lrnchat
8:41 PM ryantracey @hjarche How connectivist :) #lrnchat
8:41 PM Ruthie_HB Q1) Expertise is being able to explain/share with or teach others what you know/your experiences. #lrnchat
8:41 PM trainersleaders RT @hjarche @lrnchat expertise today is access to a diverse, giving, knowledgeable professional network of trusted relationships #lrnchat
8:41 PM Harrison_CH73 #lrnchat Chris from Cincy. Just completed my first year of grad school in my HRD program!
8:41 PM kelly_smith01 Q1) You get it the old fashioned way, you “earn” it #lrnchat
8:41 PM write2tg RT @hjarche @lrnchat expertise today is access to a diverse, giving, knowledgeable professional network of trusted relationships #lrnchat
8:41 PM rfs426 A1: Expertise is making complicated things simple. #lrnchat
8:41 PM Ruthie_HB RT @gabriellabroady: A1. Knowing enough about something to be a resource-and enough to know you don’t know everything! #lrnchat
8:41 PM TriciaRansom q1) My husband thinks since I’m comfortable playing w/tech, I’ve deep expertise in tech. Ha- don’t know difference tween giga/tetra #lrnchat
8:42 PM brunowinck A1) Expertise: having a deep enough knowledge to cover a domain sufficiently well that u can act or share with a relative assurance #lrnchat
8:42 PM Quinnovator a1) the ability to get *paid* to do it, or speak about it, or write about it (he says, cynically ;) #lrnchat
8:42 PM theASIDEblog We learned the power of colleagues and friends gets reinforced everyday through sharing. There is no “I” in team. #lrnchat
8:42 PM ryantracey RT @rfs426: A1: Expertise is making complicated things simple. #lrnchat
8:42 PM kelly_smith01 RT @Quinnovator: a1) expertise is the ability to not only do, but to understand why and how in flexible and adaptive ways #lrnchat
8:42 PM TheRealAirton A1) the ability to do, improve, create, and if need be able to change the foundational elements of respective area #lrnchat
8:42 PM InfinityTRS @lrnchat Q1) Expertise is knowing enough to know that you don’t know every! #lrnchat
8:42 PM jyoti__gupta a0) Finally thought of one – learned how to make my avatar online for free! #lrnchat
8:42 PM kmarranzino A1) expertise is knowing something or how to do something so well that you are unconsciously competent. #lrnchat
8:42 PM gabriellabroady RT @hjarche: @lrnchat expertise today is access to a diverse, giving, knowledgeable professional network of trusted relationships #lrnchat
8:42 PM rfs426 A1: Brevity #lrnchat
8:42 PM JaneBozarth @TriciaRansom but that’s a good point. “Expertise” may be a small niche, not the whole field. Wait for Q6… #lrnchat
8:42 PM ednaks RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:42 PM kelly_smith01 RT @SimonBlairTrain: A1: Expertise is being able to handle the unexpected, not just the expected. #lrnchat
8:42 PM SimonBlairTrain @TriciaRansom That’s easy. Giga is a giant Japanese monster. Tetra is a fish. #lrnchat
8:42 PM Training_Geek RT BritannicaLearn: 📱 Should kids be able to use their phones in class? What do you think? 📱 #edtech #edchat #lrnchat #blendchat #elearning…
8:42 PM patswiney RT @brunowinck: A1) Expertise: having a deep enough knowledge to cover a domain sufficiently well that u can act or share with a relative a…
8:42 PM sueprendo RT @write2tg: A1) Expertise is perhaps closer to wisdom. Definitely more than just knowledge or skill. #lrnchat
8:42 PM BeingExample RT @Training_Geek: RT BritannicaLearn: 📱 Should kids be able to use their phones in class? What do you think? 📱 #edtech #edchat #lrnchat #b…
8:42 PM ryantracey A1) Expertise is more than memory, it’s true understanding. #lrnchat
8:42 PM write2tg RT @kelly_smith01 RT @SimonBlairTrain: A1: Expertise is being able to handle the unexpected, not just the expected. #lrnchat
8:42 PM patswiney RT @Quinnovator: a1) expertise is the ability to not only do, but to understand why and how in flexible and adaptive ways #lrnchat
8:43 PM JaneBozarth For me now expertise is less having it all in my head and more being resourceful/knowing where to find/knowing who #lrnchat
8:43 PM trainersleaders RT @ryantracey A1) Expertise is more than memory, it’s true understanding. #lrnchat
8:43 PM ednaks RT @hjarche: @lrnchat expertise today is access to a diverse, giving, knowledgeable professional network of trusted relationships #lrnchat
8:43 PM write2tg So knowing how to handle the unexpected comes to play RT @ryantracey A1) Expertise is more than memory, it’s true understanding. #lrnchat
8:43 PM gabriellabroady RT @rfs426: A1: Expertise is making complicated things simple. #lrnchat
8:43 PM ednaks RT @Quinnovator: a1) expertise is the ability to not only do, but to understand why and how in flexible and adaptive ways #lrnchat
8:43 PM ATDCentralFL RT @JaneBozarth: For me now expertise is less having it all in my head and more being resourceful/knowing where to find/knowing who #lrnch…
8:43 PM TheRealAirton RT @Quinnovator: a1) the ability to get *paid* to do it, or speak about it, or write about it (he says, cynically ;) #lrnchat
8:43 PM caitsteinbach A1: expertise = consistently meaningful contribution #lrnchat
8:43 PM ryantracey RT @write2tg: So knowing how to handle the unexpected comes to play RT @ryantracey A1) Expertise is more than memory, it’s true understandi…
8:43 PM Ruthie_HB @gabriellabroady Yes! Being a resource and if you don’t know helping others find the appropriate resource. #lrnchat
8:43 PM JD_Dillon RT @JaneBozarth: For me now expertise is less having it all in my head and more being resourceful/knowing where to find/knowing who #lrnch…
8:43 PM ednaks RT @ryantracey: A1) Expertise is more than memory, it’s true understanding. #lrnchat
8:43 PM kelly_smith01 Q1) It is not a job title #lrnchat
8:43 PM TriciaRansom a1) expertise is the ability to do whatever you’re expert in w/out thinking about what you’re doing. #lrnchat
8:43 PM sueprendo RT @JaneBozarth: For me now expertise is less having it all in my head and more being resourceful/knowing where to find/knowing who #lrnch…
8:43 PM mairithomson Sorry – a bit late to #lrnchat Mairi from Brisbane, Australia. Working on a proposal to set up Innovation Lab.
8:43 PM willconstantine En route #lrnchat
8:43 PM joansie74 @lrnchat #lrnchat a2) skills+experience+education+success=expert
8:44 PM brunowinck A1) Being recognized as expert on the topic by Klout or having tons of recommandation on LinkedIn #Lol #Lrnchat
8:44 PM Mucky1217 My key learnings from #ATD2015 are available here #lrnchat @CLDtraining http://t.co/5lczF7awpa
8:44 PM write2tg True that. Just because your title says ‘Expert’ doesn’t make you one! RT @kelly_smith01 Q1) It is not a job title #lrnchat
8:44 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A1) the ability to put a lawnmower together without a manual? #lrnchat @hjarche
8:44 PM JD_Dillon A1) Stealing from everyone and responding with “being a valuable resource for those who need” #lrnchat
8:44 PM SimonBlairTrain @JaneBozarth Yes! Why keep it in your head if you can have it at your fingertips? #lrnchat
8:44 PM JaneBozarth @mairithomson Hi Mairi! Thanks for making it! #lrnchat
8:44 PM lrnchat Q2) Is there/what is the difference between authority and expertise? #lrnchat
8:44 PM hjarche RT @urbie: #lrnchat urbie, education engineer. Learned today about the difference between design & engineering. Former creates, latter prev…
8:44 PM patswiney @Ruthie_HB teaching is a great use of expertise! #lrnchat
8:44 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is there/what is the difference between authority and expertise? #lrnchat
8:44 PM JaneBozarth @brunowinck Oh is that the trick? #lrnchat
8:44 PM Ruthie_HB RT @brunowinck: A1) Expertise: having a deep enough knowledge to cover a domain sufficiently well that u can act or share with a relative a…
8:44 PM Jovianshadow A1) If you can teach something with a level of authority, you could be heading toward being an expert… #lrnchat
8:44 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q2) Is there/what is the difference between authority and expertise? #lrnchat
8:44 PM gabriellabroady Expertise is being the one people seek out to assist in that topic. #lrnchat
8:44 PM ryantracey A2) Aren’t they inversely correlated? #lrnchat
8:44 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is there/what is the difference between authority and expertise? #lrnchat
8:44 PM jsuzcampos Q2) Authority, to me, is derived from positional power. You can have authority without expertise. #lrnchat
8:44 PM Quinnovator a2) assuming you mean authority ‘on a topic’ versus just authority (e.g. by fiat or position)? #Lrnchat
8:45 PM Ruthie_HB RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is there/what is the difference between authority and expertise? #lrnchat
8:45 PM urbie #lrnchat A1 Depends. Working at the top of your game or playing it safe? Very good at what you do if former. Latter, your mistakes are okay.
8:45 PM JD_Dillon The definition of sarcasm is … :-) #lrnchat https://t.co/jy0BT0VPjG
8:45 PM patswiney @lrnchat Q2) authority is the thought of being an expert. Expertise is actually knowing the material #lrnchat
8:45 PM kmarranzino A1) Expertise is knowing something so well you can explain it to an eight-year-old, no matter how complex it is. #lrnchat
8:45 PM MelMilloway I’m a bit fuzzy on “expertise” it’s knowing/understanding enough but no one can truly know/understand it all in their area. #lrnchat
8:45 PM theASIDEblog Expertise is a deep knowledge of a topic or skill for doing something. #lrnchat
8:45 PM rfs426 A2: They are both overrated #lrnchat
8:45 PM trainersleaders Ditto: RT @jsuzcampos Q2) Authority, to me, is derived from positional power. You can have authority without expertise. #lrnchat
8:45 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is there/what is the difference between authority and expertise? #lrnchat
8:45 PM ryantracey RT @MelMilloway: I’m a bit fuzzy on “expertise” it’s knowing/understanding enough but no one can truly know/understand it all in their area…
8:45 PM Ruthie_HB RT @Quinnovator: a2) assuming you mean authority ‘on a topic’ versus just authority (e.g. by fiat or position)? #Lrnchat
8:45 PM hjarche @brunowinck maybe expertise is whomever has the most badges ;) #lrnchat
8:45 PM TriciaRansom a1) according to http://t.co/C9sHrI7rY7: expert skill or knowledge; expertness; know-how #lrnchat
8:45 PM mairithomson A1) Expertise is being able to meaningfully connect information, people, systems to build understanding for self and others #lrnchat
8:45 PM joansie74 @lrnchat #lrnchat a2) position
8:45 PM gabriellabroady RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is there/what is the difference between authority and expertise? #lrnchat
8:45 PM brunowinck @JaneBozarth yep discovered I was an expert in Education #Lol #Lrnchat
8:45 PM Quinnovator a2) there is authority that comes from expertise, and authority that comes from fiat, the former has a relation, the latter doesn’t #lrnchat
8:45 PM OhThatRachel A2) Authority, to me, is when you can make an impact in your field/topic of expertise. You’re widely recognized as an expert. #lrnchat
8:46 PM JD_Dillon A2) One is given. One is earned. #lrnchat https://t.co/irneaHwqxi
8:46 PM brunowinck RT @JD_Dillon: The definition of sarcasm is … :-) #lrnchat https://t.co/jy0BT0VPjG
8:46 PM mairithomson @JaneBozarth Thanks for the welcome! :) #lrnchat
8:46 PM TheRealAirton RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is there/what is the difference between authority and expertise? #lrnchat
8:46 PM ryantracey A2) I think authority derives from expertise. #lrnchat
8:46 PM TriciaRansom a1) for me, having expertise isn’t about connecting or helping others. It’s personal, what I’m good at (sorry for poor grammar) #lrnchat
8:46 PM sueprendo Being an expert means you’ve got a well used and connected mental model of the topic/subject in your brain #lrnchat
8:46 PM write2tg A2) Authority doesn’t make you an expert. Having the expertise is no guarantee to use authoritative power. #lrnchat
8:46 PM JaneBozarth This was catalyst tweet for tonight’s #lrnchat http://t.co/HOgGQ2G9SV
8:46 PM willconstantine A2) I actually don’t have an answer to this question… #lrnchat
8:46 PM NeilFarber RT @rfs426: A1: Expertise is making complicated things simple. #lrnchat
8:46 PM TriciaRansom RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is there/what is the difference between authority and expertise? #lrnchat
8:46 PM urbie #lrnchat A1 Paraphrasing @DonWettrick.. You’re not an expert if you been doing it the same way for 20 years.
8:46 PM ShitGrownupsSay RT brunowinck: JaneBozarth yep discovered I was an expert in Education #Lol #Lrnchat
8:46 PM Quinnovator @ryantracey reckon there’s authority that *doesn’t* come from expertise #lrnchat
8:46 PM rfs426 A2: Both limit innovation and motivation. #lrnchat
8:46 PM ryantracey @TheRealAirton or Ninja. #lrnchat
8:47 PM InfinityTRS @lrnchat A2) Authority is having vast knowledge of a subject and expertise is having many hours of experience using the knowledge #lrnchat
8:47 PM write2tg Interesting! RT @JaneBozarth This was catalyst tweet for tonight’s #lrnchat http://t.co/SC2cOeApfK
8:47 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is there/what is the difference between authority and expertise? #lrnchat
8:47 PM JD_Dillon A2) Authority COULD come from expertise – but it can also be unrelated and misinterpreted #lrnchat
8:47 PM kmarranzino RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is there/what is the difference between authority and expertise? #lrnchat
8:47 PM TheRealAirton A2) my dad was my authority but not an expert on parenting #lrnchat #BowlHairCuts
8:47 PM hjarche @gabriellabroady good point, in networks, leadership comes through reputation, whereas in organizations it’s from position #lrnchat
8:47 PM brunowinck @hjarche I can deal some, got a bakery ready :) supply the pics, I bake #lrnchat
8:47 PM nevadajack RT @urbie: #lrnchat urbie, education engineer. Learned today about the difference between design & engineering. Former creates, latter prev…
8:47 PM write2tg RT @JD_Dillon A2) Authority COULD come from expertise – but it can also be unrelated and misinterpreted #lrnchat
8:47 PM JaneBozarth @mairithomson well we appreciate it when people swim all the way from Australia for #lrnchat !
8:47 PM patswiney @Quinnovator I wouldn’t say you have to get paid to be an expert. Respect is payment enough. It’s being asked that counts #lrnchat
8:47 PM ryantracey @Quinnovator Depends on what we mean by authority. I don’t mean in the hierarchical sense. #lrnchat
8:47 PM MelMilloway A2 Authority means being in control, a figurehead but maybe not an expert. You don’t know as much. #lrnchat https://t.co/SP4uUpe3fH
8:47 PM sueprendo #lrnchat Authority is having the knowledge or resources? And expert is knowledge and skill? Good question!! https://t.co/95EdRryhjB
8:48 PM Ruthie_HB Q1) If authority on topic, see as the individual everyone goes to for the be all. Expertise- is putting all of that into practice. #lrnchat
8:48 PM kelly_smith01 Q2) Authority is a book or reference – Expertise is doing or guiding others doing the doing #lrnchat
8:48 PM TriciaRansom a2) I can have authority w/out expertise. Many of my managers have had authority w/out expertise. #lrnchat
8:48 PM write2tg RT @TriciaRansom a2) I can have authority w/out expertise. Many of my managers have had authority w/out expertise. #lrnchat
8:48 PM JaneBozarth @ryantracey @Quinnovator #lrnchat http://t.co/q3dHrvMt1d
8:48 PM SimonBlairTrain A2: To me, expertise is objective (you have the know-how), whereas authority is subjective (others recognize your expertise). #lrnchat
8:48 PM OhThatRachel I guess when I think of authority in the context of expertise, I’m not envisioning your boss or someone like that. #lrnchat
8:48 PM ryantracey RT @JD_Dillon: A2) Authority COULD come from expertise – but it can also be unrelated and misinterpreted #lrnchat
8:48 PM JaneBozarth @SimonBlairTrain yes — authority is something others assign #lrnchat
8:48 PM mairithomson A2) Authority doesn’t imply expertise is also present. But someone with expertise will probably be considered a knowledge authority #lrnchat
8:48 PM patswiney @rfs426 I think false authority and expertise are overrated but not genuine. It would be inefficient to not use expertise #lrnchat
8:48 PM Ruthie_HB RT @InfinityTRS: @lrnchat A2) Authority is having vast knowledge of a subject and expertise is having many hours of experience using the kn…
8:48 PM gabriellabroady RT @ryantracey: @Quinnovator Depends on what we mean by authority. I don’t mean in the hierarchical sense. #lrnchat
8:48 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A2) Authority is undisputed #lrnchat
8:48 PM TriciaRansom a2) Authority = Control over external. Expertise = Control over internal #lrnchat
8:48 PM JaneBozarth Have seen plenty of ‘authorities’ who have no expertise… #lrnchat
8:48 PM MelMilloway RT @write2tg: RT @TriciaRansom a2) I can have authority w/out expertise. Many of my managers have had authority w/out expertise. #lrnchat
8:49 PM JaneBozarth RT @patswiney: @rfs426 I think false authority and expertise are overrated but not genuine. It would be inefficient to not use expertise #l…
8:49 PM dbuckedu If you’re considered the authority on a specific topic, it’s because others recognize your deep expertise. #lrnchat
8:49 PM Quinnovator @ryantracey yes, definitely an authority earned by expertise, and different than hierarchical #lrnchat
8:49 PM sueprendo It’s interesting. I’m not sure who I’d choose if I had the choice between an authority and an expert to help me :) #lrnchat
8:49 PM JD_Dillon Update: now engaging in mini-#lrnchat live with @willconstantine at Starbucks …
8:49 PM Ruthie_HB RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Authority is a book or reference – Expertise is doing or guiding others doing the doing #lrnchat
8:49 PM write2tg A2) Expertise is when other’s acknowledge. When it comes to authority, they have no choice! #lrnchat
8:49 PM brunowinck A2 Learn recently that Authority as a complicated ethymology like a combo of “Autorité” (power) and being from the Author. #lrnchat
8:49 PM TriciaRansom a2) There are many people working in government who have authority and no expertise in the field #lrnchat
8:49 PM jyoti__gupta a2) an authority on a topic can be just the most popular one, not the best #lrnchat
8:49 PM urbie #lrnchat A2 Practitioners model expertise to varying degrees. Authorities, methinks, don’t model so much. Context of application maybe?
8:49 PM SimonBlairTrain A2 (ctd): and you can have either without the other. E.g. medium-level skills might make me an authority to neophites. #lrnchat
8:50 PM JD_Dillon They’re usually called “managers” #lrnchat https://t.co/dXJuZtIxSJ
8:50 PM MelMilloway RT @write2tg: A2) Expertise is when other’s acknowledge. When it comes to authority, they have no choice! #lrnchat
8:50 PM patswiney @sueprendo maybe we can strive to be both :-) in a perfect world #lrnchat
8:50 PM theASIDEblog Authority is not expertise. #lrnchat
8:50 PM MelMilloway @write2tg That’s so very true. #lrnchat
8:50 PM Quinnovator have to disagree: creative friction between expertise is the source of innovation #lrnchat https://t.co/XjWqo4tVah
8:50 PM urbie RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Authority is a book or reference – Expertise is doing or guiding others doing the doing #lrnchat
8:51 PM JD_Dillon RT @Quinnovator: have to disagree: creative friction between expertise is the source of innovation #lrnchat https://t.co/XjWqo4tVah
8:51 PM patswiney @dbuckedu too many times we don’t think authority and expertise can coincide. We should strive to have both #lrnchat
8:51 PM TriciaRansom Has anyone else noticed that responses depend on how you personally define words? Authority on a topic vs Authoritative person #lrnchat
8:51 PM brunowinck A2) nothing to do, you can be the authority without being an expert, suffice to the be author and the rights to put forth it #Lrnchat
8:51 PM noorno21 RT brunowinck: JaneBozarth yep discovered I was an expert in Education #Lol #Lrnchat
8:51 PM theASIDEblog People in position of authority should consult with experts in the trenches. #lrnchat
8:51 PM lrnchat Q3) How do you determine who is an “expert”? What qualities/behaviors set them apart? #lrnchat
8:51 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q3) How do you determine who is an “expert”? What qualities/behaviors set them apart? #lrnchat
8:51 PM gailfus #lrnchat Authority and management are NOT the same thing.
8:51 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you determine who is an “expert”? What qualities/behaviors set them apart? #lrnchat
8:51 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A2) Or is this simply a case of semantics, lending as much weight to the credibility of an individual as one can? #lrnchat
8:51 PM lindapuritz RT @JD_Dillon: Quote from @willconstantine (sitting next to me): “I can’t listen to you. I’m tweeting right now.” #lrnchat
8:51 PM JaneBozarth Q2 well, in choosing things like who we go to for advice/counsel, don’t we assign ‘authority’ based on our perception of expertise? #lrnchat
8:51 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you determine who is an “expert”? What qualities/behaviors set them apart? #lrnchat
8:51 PM ryantracey RT @MrKMaston: @lrnchat A2) Or is this simply a case of semantics, lending as much weight to the credibility of an individual as one can? #…
8:52 PM TriciaRansom RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you determine who is an “expert”? What qualities/behaviors set them apart? #lrnchat
8:52 PM Quinnovator @JaneBozarth @ryantracey but that’s hard *work* (he whines ;) #lrnchat https://t.co/F3B37x4aDh
8:52 PM Ruthie_HB RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you determine who is an “expert”? What qualities/behaviors set them apart? #lrnchat
8:52 PM gabriellabroady I think of authority as having the “D” around what gets done and experts having the deepest know-how to get it done #lrnchat
8:52 PM TheRealAirton @ryantracey I’d add ninja for my ability to make my expertise disappear #lrnchat
8:52 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you determine who is an “expert”? What qualities/behaviors set them apart? #lrnchat
8:52 PM JD_Dillon A3) Those who need help recognize/respect their knowledge/ability and seek it out #lrnchat https://t.co/ga4QbUr3Od
8:52 PM kmarranzino A2) Authority is the “right” to tell people what to do. Expertise is people actively wanting you to tell them how to do it right. #lrnchat
8:52 PM willconstantine Q3) they openly share their knowledge with others #lrnchat
8:52 PM JaneBozarth RT @TheRealAirton: @ryantracey I’d add ninja for my ability to make my expertise disappear #lrnchat
8:52 PM kelly_smith01 RT @InfinityTRS: @lrnchat A2) Authority is having vast knowledge of a subject and expertise is having many hours of experience using the kn…
8:52 PM gabriellabroady RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you determine who is an “expert”? What qualities/behaviors set them apart? #lrnchat
8:52 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you determine who is an “expert”? What qualities/behaviors set them apart? #lrnchat
8:52 PM gabriellabroady A3. They share. #lrnchat
8:52 PM sobith RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you determine who is an “expert”? What qualities/behaviors set them apart? #lrnchat
8:53 PM sueprendo #lrnchat I’d be looking for what they produce, not what they say they can do. The proof is in the pud https://t.co/PEh8shA4du
8:53 PM Ruthie_HB Q3) More open about sharing and seeing how you use what’s learned. That discovery adds to their expertise. #lrnchat
8:53 PM MelMilloway A3 Being an “expert” is extremely fluid these days. You have to continually know/understand the topic. #lrnchat https://t.co/Yjl6mdoK0n
8:53 PM TriciaRansom a3) I consider myself a novice expert in my field. Others, who don’t know L&D may not agree since I don’t lecture. #lrnchat
8:53 PM write2tg A3) An expert is a trusted adviser who shares wisdom and knowledge that is based on their experience. #lrnchat
8:53 PM gailfus @JaneBozarth Authority and expertise don’t necessarily go hand-in-hand. #lrnchat
8:53 PM willconstantine Q3) they have growth mindset yes I’m quoting Carol Dweck #lrnchat
8:53 PM write2tg RT @willconstantine Q3) they have growth mindset yes I’m quoting Carol Dweck #lrnchat
8:53 PM brunowinck @JaneBozarth IMO you don’t assign authority, it the adviser who claim authority or some 3rd party recognize it #lrnchat
8:53 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you determine who is an “expert”? What qualities/behaviors set them apart? #lrnchat
8:53 PM JD_Dillon A3) Experts seek to share … Otherwise we wouldn’t know they were “experts” #lrnchat
8:53 PM OhThatRachel A3) I’d consider someone an expert if their work is advanced and *proven* in some way. #lrnchat
8:53 PM ryantracey A3) Real experts welcome the knowledge and experience of others (rather than be threatened by them). #lrnchat
8:53 PM write2tg RT @JD_Dillon A3) Experts seek to share … Otherwise we wouldn’t know they were “experts” #lrnchat
8:53 PM joansie74 @lrnchat #lrnchat a3) expressed knowledge + portfolio + work experience
8:54 PM JaneBozarth They are knowledgeable in practical ways. They can cite real research/data. They write well and a lot. They contribute to the field #lrnchat
8:54 PM hjarche @lrnchat social network analysis (SNA) is a good tool to find experts, as determined by their peers & colleagues #lrnchat
8:54 PM urbie #lrnchat A3 Someone who excels at what they do inspires. That’s my take. I want to learn to be like them.
8:54 PM TheRealAirton A3) ability to explain thought origin and future direction #lrnchat
8:54 PM kmarranzino RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you determine who is an “expert”? What qualities/behaviors set them apart? #lrnchat
8:54 PM OhThatRachel Yup! This #lrnchat https://t.co/jvRI6Z6Ape
8:54 PM TriciaRansom a3) The qualities/behaviors I expect of an “expert” vary based on how much I know about their subject #lrnchat
8:54 PM jyoti__gupta a3) credentials? experience? perspective? Sometimes popularity and wealth too #lrnchat
8:54 PM Quinnovator a3) for what purpose? Experts to do job? Ones that handle ‘hard’ problems as well as easy. Ones who can serve as SMEs? Different #lrnchat
8:54 PM theASIDEblog Authority figures that make decisions in concert with experts build stronger organizations. #lrnchat
8:54 PM IOErikaO An expert can demonstrate their expertise rather than just talk about it. #lrnchat
8:54 PM JaneBozarth Q3 Their knowledge/understanding extends beyond the theoretical/conceptual #lrnchat
8:54 PM Harrison_CH73 Q3) they are will to lead others even if they don’t have authority #lrnchat
8:54 PM JaneBozarth RT @IOErikaO: An expert can demonstrate their expertise rather than just talk about it. #lrnchat
8:54 PM sueprendo RT @JD_Dillon: A3) Experts seek to share … Otherwise we wouldn’t know they were “experts” #lrnchat
8:54 PM write2tg RT @JaneBozarth Q3 Their knowledge/understanding extends beyond the theoretical/conceptual #lrnchat
8:54 PM mairithomson A3) Experts I seek out are generous, questioning, continually improving and adding to the knowledge base #lrnchat
8:54 PM Ruthie_HB Q3) Experts are fantastic explainers in hopes of you understanding context with confidence. Don’t want you to fail. #lrnchat
8:54 PM JaneBozarth @IOErikaO amen #lrnchat
8:54 PM ryantracey RT @IOErikaO: An expert can demonstrate their expertise rather than just talk about it. #lrnchat
8:54 PM JaneBozarth RT @theASIDEblog: Authority figures that make decisions in concert with experts build stronger organizations. #lrnchat
8:55 PM brunowinck A2) 2nd big diff, authority is established once for all (unless it’s fake), expert is for a time only #lrnchat
8:55 PM InfinityTRS @lrnchat A3) proven results. They have confidence in their process that confirms their results. #lrnchat
8:55 PM kmarranzino A3) Experts are able to explain complex concepts and processes in simple terms. #lrnchat
8:55 PM sobith A3) ability to learn and unlearn, think critically #lrnchat
8:55 PM ryantracey A3) Experts explain the “how” as well as the “what”. #lrnchat
8:55 PM Quinnovator a3) lesson learned: not all experts are good SMEs, need to be able to articulate underlying models, key ‘do’ differences #lrnchat
8:55 PM patswiney @ryantracey I wish this was more commonplace. Not everyone will know everything. #lrnchat
8:55 PM SimonBlairTrain A3: If you say you’re an expert, you probably aren’t. It’s all in the actions and the knowledge. #lrnchat
8:55 PM hjarche @gabriellabroady Another good point! What happens to experts who don’t share in the network era? #lrnchat
8:55 PM urbie #lrnchat A3 That story about Steve Jobs’ dad finishing cabinetry inside n out even if it can’t be seen. The expert knows and cares.
8:55 PM JD_Dillon A3) How many letters do they have after their name? Maybe? No? #lrnchat
8:55 PM caitsteinbach A3: Passionate about growth of the field, themselves, others…sharing and contributing to that growth. #lrnchat https://t.co/jkhFrMkQML
8:55 PM TheRealAirton RT @IOErikaO: An expert can demonstrate their expertise rather than just talk about it. #lrnchat
8:55 PM Quinnovator RT @caitsteinbach: A3: Passionate about growth of the field, themselves, others…sharing and contributing to that growth. #lrnchat https://…
8:55 PM write2tg RT @sobith A3) ability to learn and unlearn, think critically #lrnchat
8:55 PM OhThatRachel A3) I don’t know if I agree that someone needs to share their knowledge to be an expert in something. #lrnchat
8:55 PM SavvyOD RT @TriciaRansom: a2) Authority = Control over external. Expertise = Control over internal #lrnchat
8:56 PM kelly_smith01 Q3) Observation of behavior in multiple situations/conditions over time #lrnchat
8:56 PM write2tg A3) Experts are lifelong learners. They are continuously finding ways to learn something new #lrnchat
8:56 PM ryantracey A3) Experts are happy to answer questions. #lrnchat
8:56 PM gailfus @JD_Dillon You’re cheeky tonight!! #lrnchat
8:56 PM TriciaRansom a3) anyone can say they’re expert. I need external unbiased validation; and not from their good friends #lrnchat
8:56 PM brunowinck @TriciaRansom true we are always expert relatively to someone else
BTW isn’t expert part of of the jargon “SME” #lrnchat
8:56 PM MelMilloway Experts take it to the next level. They create the expertise that people want to achieve and create themselves. #lrnchat
8:56 PM JaneBozarth @JD_Dillon Not sure. Have seen in orgs people who are considered “experts” who hoard it. #lrnchat
8:56 PM jyoti__gupta @JaneBozarth Interesting that you included communication skills #lrnchat
8:56 PM ryantracey RT @write2tg: A3) Experts are lifelong learners. They are continuously finding ways to learn something new #lrnchat
8:56 PM trainersleaders q3) An expert is like a great work of art: sometimes hard to describe, but I recognize it when I see it #lrnchat
8:56 PM sueprendo RT @SimonBlairTrain: A3: If you say you’re an expert, you probably aren’t. It’s all in the actions and the knowledge. #lrnchat
8:56 PM JaneBozarth RT @SimonBlairTrain: A3: If you say you’re an expert, you probably aren’t. It’s all in the actions and the knowledge. #lrnchat
8:57 PM dbuckedu A3: True experts can bring the praxis, rather than simply the theory. They “do” way more than they “say.” #lrnchat
8:57 PM write2tg A3) Experts don’t hoard knowledge. They thrive on sharing and making it available to everyone. #lrnchat
8:57 PM TriciaRansom @brunowinck See, I’m such an expert of my thoughts, I did a mind dump w/out thinking of what SME stands for. duh. #lrnchat
8:57 PM ryantracey @trainersleaders Art, eh ;) #lrnchat
8:57 PM Ruthie_HB Q3) Makes me think that experts are learners themselves. Sometimes they may not have the solutions but can steer you towards it. #lrnchat
8:57 PM TheRealAirton A3) I am an expert on napping but only scientists with authority in sleep science can provide clarity on reasons/need for it #lrnchat
8:57 PM JaneBozarth I have seen PLENTY of experts who hoard knowledge. #lrnchat
8:57 PM Quinnovator thought that was the definition of smut ;) #lrnchat https://t.co/PFJWp2zQkJ
8:57 PM urbie #lrnchat A3 Most of the experts I know have a humanity about them. They fart. They laugh at themselves.
8:57 PM mairithomson @OhThatRachel How would anyone know they were an expert if they didn’t share or talk about what they know? That’s how I see it… #lrnchat
8:58 PM TriciaRansom a3) I know an expert when I can prove it to myself. Otherwise, I only know they are selling themselves as an expert #lrnchat
8:58 PM JD_Dillon @JaneBozarth Then I would take away their “expert” card … 😜 #lrnchat
8:58 PM JaneBozarth @Ruthie_HB good point. Experts are learners. #lrnchat
8:58 PM gailfus Expertise is about knowledge and execution. Authority is about recognized leadership. @julianstodd has a lot to say on this topic #lrnchat
8:58 PM brunowinck @OhThatRachel they could be selfish and keep what they know just for themselves, still experts #Lrnchat
8:58 PM write2tg They think they are experts. But in my eyes, they aren’t. RT @JaneBozarth I have seen PLENTY of experts who hoard knowledge. #lrnchat
8:58 PM OhThatRachel .@write2tg What if someone becomes an expert in a technical program that doesn’t update/change? #lrnchat
8:58 PM trainersleaders Yes: MT @Ruthie_HB Q3) …experts are learners themselves. Sometimes they may not have the solutions but can steer you towards it. #lrnchat
8:58 PM AmberBrownTeach A3) The Degree to which one is readily able and wiling to share, teach, or help others in their first field of expertise. #lrnchat
8:58 PM ryantracey A3) Experts listen to contrarian views. #lrnchat
8:58 PM gabriellabroady A3. What happens when you’re seen as an expert you don’t feel you’re qualified for–or don’t want to be known for? #lrnchat
8:58 PM MelMilloway @TheRealAirton LOL ME TOO. I have some competition. #lrnchat
8:58 PM TriciaRansom Far far far too many. Experts are not always connectors RT @JaneBozarth: I have seen PLENTY of experts who hoard knowledge. #lrnchat
8:58 PM hjarche @JaneBozarth “contribute to the field” – I think that’s critical #lrnchat
8:58 PM IOErikaO An expert recognizes things evolve & stays on top of the changes. #lrnchat
8:58 PM gabriellabroady RT @urbie: #lrnchat A3 Most of the experts I know have a humanity about them. They fart. They laugh at themselves.
8:59 PM OhThatRachel @mairithomson they can still produce fantastic results without sharing the knowledge of how they got to that result #lrnchat
8:59 PM kelly_smith01 Q3) Yes – Experts do not hoard – they expand, collaborate, and share #lrnchat
8:59 PM trainersleaders RT @IOErikaO An expert recognizes things evolve & stays on top of the changes. #lrnchat
8:59 PM write2tg RT @kelly_smith01 Q3) Yes – Experts do not hoard – they expand, collaborate, and share #lrnchat
8:59 PM TriciaRansom a3) My grandpa was an expert in guns and machinery. Once he gained his expertise, he quit learning #lrnchat
8:59 PM patswiney @SimonBlairTrain most probably aren’t the expert when they say it. But for those who have earned the title, it’s known by others #lrnchat
8:59 PM write2tg A3) Experts are also humble. Most experts I know would never say they are a 10/10. There is always a need to improve. #lrnchat
8:59 PM ryantracey RT @hjarche: @JaneBozarth “contribute to the field” – I think that’s critical #lrnchat
8:59 PM dbuckedu A3: Run for the hills from one who proudly says, “I am an expert.” #lrnchat
8:59 PM JD_Dillon @MelMilloway @TheRealAirton Y’all are actually experts in swag … Admit it … Except Airton doesn’t share … #lrnchat
8:59 PM TheRealAirton RT @Quinnovator: @SimonBlairTrain that’s because they don’t have access to 70% of what they ‘do’, but 100% of what they *know* #lrnchat
8:59 PM OhThatRachel @write2tg I can agree to disagree – I think that they’re still an expert specifically on that program, it doesn’t have to transfer #lrnchat
8:59 PM sobith @JaneBozarth that’s how they reign over – authority 😜 #lrnchat
8:59 PM jmarrapodi RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you determine who is an “expert”? What qualities/behaviors set them apart? #lrnchat
8:59 PM write2tg That’s how we recognize them! RT @ryantracey RT @hjarche: @JaneBozarth “contribute to the field” – I think that’s critical #lrnchat
9:00 PM TriciaRansom If you’re an expert in a static/stagnant field, do you have to be a learner? Do you have to share? Nope #lrnchat
9:00 PM Quinnovator think there’s a distinction between experts who ‘do’, and those that can help others (and we’re talking about the latter) #lrnchat
9:00 PM JaneBozarth Y’all are gonna love the next question. ;-) #lrnchat
9:00 PM OpLaunch @urbie @hjarche DESIGN=prepare preliminary sketch or plan. The origin is to ‘mark out.’ Could be good or bad. Training varies. #lrnchat
9:00 PM gabriellabroady Experts are not condescending–rather go to someone darn good & approachable than a sanctimonious jerk! #lrnchat
9:00 PM Ruthie_HB RT @gabriellabroady: A3. What happens when you’re seen as an expert you don’t feel you’re qualified for–or don’t want to be known for? #lr…
9:00 PM urbie #lrnchat A3 An expert’s like a surfer in that they’re right out there where the action is. Visible.
9:00 PM MelMilloway @JD_Dillon @TheRealAirton I didn’t even get any t-shirts. Non-expert level. #lrnchat
9:00 PM lrnchat Q3a) How can you tell someone is NOT an expert/authority? #lrnchat
9:00 PM jmarrapodi A3) Experts have extended experience in the field of conversation
#lrnchat
9:00 PM kelly_smith01 Q3) Experts contribute outside their silo, organization and into the community #lrnchat
9:00 PM PatriceKiraly RT @Quinnovator: a3) lesson learned: not all experts are good SMEs, need to be able to articulate underlying models, key ‘do’ differences #…
9:01 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q3a) How can you tell someone is NOT an expert/authority? #lrnchat
9:01 PM OhThatRachel There are some fascinating views on what makes an expert #lrnchat – I think we’re just defining a good, smart person, not an expert
9:01 PM write2tg A3) You can be an expert in one area and a novice in another. Being an all rounder expert is not possible! #lrnchat
9:01 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q3a) How can you tell someone is NOT an expert/authority? #lrnchat
9:01 PM brunowinck @write2tg @JaneBozarth lets further distinguish experts/altrustic open minded experts. I know many of the first type #lrnchat
9:01 PM hjarche @OhThatRachel experts who don’t share are less useful in a networked society http://t.co/57BdEFkv1M #lrnchat http://t.co/dwU1HSI1d3
9:01 PM Quinnovator a3a) doesn’t listen to an opposing viewpoint #lrnchat
9:01 PM JaneBozarth RT @OhThatRachel: There are some fascinating views on what makes an expert #lrnchat – I think we’re just defining a good, smart person, not…
9:01 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q3a) How can you tell someone is NOT an expert/authority? #lrnchat
9:01 PM sueprendo Mr miyagi, yoda….experts- defined by their teaching #lrnchat
9:01 PM ryantracey RT @Quinnovator: a3a) doesn’t listen to an opposing viewpoint #lrnchat
9:01 PM jmarrapodi RT @lrnchat: Q3a) How can you tell someone is NOT an expert/authority? #lrnchat
9:01 PM ryantracey A4) They try to impose their view on you, because that’s all they know. #lrnchat
9:01 PM OhThatRachel Million times agree! You don’t even need to be “nice” or anything to be an expert – #lrnchat https://t.co/MT5egvcuJa
9:01 PM mairithomson @OhThatRachel True. But the result would be shared? And they would talk about it? How does one get an expert badge otherwise? #lrnchat
9:01 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A3a) When they tell you to go ask someone else #lrnchat
9:01 PM JaneBozarth @OhThatRachel yes. My definitions differ considerably from some here. #lrnchat
9:01 PM sobith @write2tg agreed! You must watch the documentary – Jiro dreams of sushi #lrnchat
9:02 PM Ruthie_HB @gabriellabroady Great ?! It backs them into a corner. Wonder if it stunts their own growth and development in other areas. #lrnchat
9:02 PM kmarranzino RT @lrnchat: Q3a) How can you tell someone is NOT an expert/authority? #lrnchat
9:02 PM JD_Dillon A3a) Inability or unwillingness to walk the talk #lrnchat https://t.co/s4FNII5wUL
9:02 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q3a) How can you tell someone is NOT an expert/authority? #lrnchat
9:02 PM brunowinck @JaneBozarth It’s not fair if you know the questions in advance :) #Lrnchat
9:02 PM Ruthie_HB RT @lrnchat: Q3a) How can you tell someone is NOT an expert/authority? #lrnchat
9:02 PM TheRealAirton @MelMilloway @JD_Dillon got 8 and gas cards and fitbit and scoliosis #lrnchat
9:02 PM Quinnovator RT @JD_Dillon: A3a) Inability or unwillingness to walk the talk #lrnchat https://t.co/s4FNII5wUL
9:02 PM TriciaRansom Want arrogant surgeon if need brain surgery, all-knowing pilot if plane going down MT @write2tg: A3) Experts are also humble… #lrnchat
9:02 PM OhThatRachel @mairithomson we’re discussing sharing the knowledge though… results would be shared, but that isn’t the knowledge behind it #lrnchat
9:02 PM TheRealAirton RT @lrnchat: Q3a) How can you tell someone is NOT an expert/authority? #lrnchat
9:02 PM jmarrapodi Q3a) Not experts think they know more than they really know. “Faking it” #lrnchat
9:02 PM JaneBozarth Q3a When it is evident they have never actually worked in the field. And they don’t even know that shows. #lrnchat
9:02 PM OhThatRachel @hjarche I agree but that doesn’t make them less of an expert #lrnchat
9:02 PM TriciaRansom RT @lrnchat: Q3a) How can you tell someone is NOT an expert/authority? #lrnchat
9:02 PM trainersleaders q3a) You can tell someone is not really an expert if he/she mentions his/her Ph.D./ivy-league connections early in conversation #lrnchat
9:02 PM urbie @OpLaunch @hjarche understanding came from @williams_paige blog https://t.co/oK55MIBQo0 #lrnchat
9:02 PM JD_Dillon A3a) Their book on learning technology came out in 1972 … #lrnchat https://t.co/s4FNII5wUL
9:02 PM jyoti__gupta @kelly_smith01 Agree. Speaks to a level of passion and true interest #lrnchat
9:02 PM ryantracey Reminds me of when someone told me they weren’t “that kind of IT”. #lrnchat
9:03 PM willconstantine Q3) they don’t have the applied to practice to back up their “authority” #lrnchat
9:03 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q3a) How can you tell someone is NOT an expert/authority? #lrnchat
9:03 PM Ruthie_HB Oh Q3a) stirring the pot of so-called names experts. ;) j/k #lrnchat
9:03 PM JaneBozarth Q3a When they show that they not only have not read the literature in their field, they don’t even know it exists. smh. #lrnchat
9:03 PM theASIDEblog Authority & expertise are different. Depending on point of view, they could be positive or negative. Gotta put them in context. #lrnchat
9:03 PM sobith RT @lrnchat: Q3a) How can you tell someone is NOT an expert/authority? #lrnchat
9:03 PM write2tg A3a) Unreal experts flaunt their lack of expertise in more ways than one. You can spot them easily! #lrnchat
9:03 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q3a) How can you tell someone is NOT an expert/authority? #lrnchat
9:03 PM lrnchat Q4) How do you (personally) develop expertise? #lrnchat
9:03 PM brunowinck @hjarche they could share for a price, stand on their IP or sell the best pieces to their employer only @OhThatRachel #lrnchat
9:03 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you (personally) develop expertise? #lrnchat
9:03 PM TheRealAirton @write2tg I believe you can be a polymath. Michaelangelo… #lrnchat
9:03 PM sueprendo #lrnchat overconfident, overpromise and underdeliver, hide their mistakes/failings, Afraid to share https://t.co/GG2HDM3h49
9:03 PM mairithomson A3a) A non-expert wouldn’t welcome challenges, builds, or extensions of their knowledge #lrnchat
9:03 PM OhThatRachel Agree! #lrnchat that would be my A3 as well :) https://t.co/zWT1OtkuoP
9:03 PM TriciaRansom a3) They try too hard to prove it. #lrnchat
9:03 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q4) How do you (personally) develop expertise? #lrnchat
9:03 PM Quinnovator a4) do, review, refine #lrnchat
9:04 PM IOErikaO A3a) From my experience they can never demonstrate a small level of proficiency #lrnchat
9:04 PM jmarrapodi A3a) Experts can have old knowledge too. Dated info. Has-been of expertise. Knowledge is ever growing. Experts are ever learning. #lrnchat
9:04 PM gabriellabroady RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you (personally) develop expertise? #lrnchat
9:04 PM Mucky1217 A3) They don’t set off my BS detector ;) #lrnchat
9:04 PM theASIDEblog Expertise needs proof; authority is an action. #lrnchat
9:04 PM JD_Dillon A4) Work your ass off … #lrnchat https://t.co/IBkJe5GbYb
9:04 PM TriciaRansom RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you (personally) develop expertise? #lrnchat
9:04 PM hjarche @TriciaRansom I noted that the pilot on the Hudson River crash landing was very humble @write2tg #lrnchat
9:04 PM JD_Dillon RT @Quinnovator: a4) do, review, refine #lrnchat
9:04 PM jyoti__gupta @JaneBozarth Totally agree. #lrnchat
9:04 PM Quinnovator a4) like wisdom: err and err and err again, but less and less and less #lrnchat
9:04 PM jmarrapodi RT @TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you (personally) develop expertise? #lrnchat
9:04 PM trainersleaders q4) I work toward developing expertise through experimentation, absorbing all I can from available resources–including colleagues #lrnchat
9:04 PM gabriellabroady A4. Putzing. Reading. Listening. #lrnchat
9:04 PM JaneBozarth Note: writing/publishing helps ME determine someone’s expertise. I don’t know that “sharing” in itself has anything to do w it #lrnchat
9:04 PM ryantracey A4) Learn from others, try it for yourself, share it, get feedback. #lrnchat
9:04 PM sueprendo #lrnchat set goals, use and expand resources, practice, believe https://t.co/MmEO6NY8Vo
9:04 PM JD_Dillon A4) Avoid thinking of yourself as an expert – refuse to be “finished” with your development #lrnchat
9:05 PM kelly_smith01 Q3a) They talk (or write) more they listen or act or solve or share #lrnchat
9:05 PM urbie #lrnchat A3a That wizard in one of the Harry Potter books who was more about himself and marketing books. If it talks with a cluck..
9:05 PM theASIDEblog Someone in a position of authority can also be an expert. #lrnchat
9:05 PM write2tg A4) You fail and learn. When you feel confident, you apply and receive feedback. Hit Repeat! #lrnchat
9:05 PM Quinnovator RT @JaneBozarth: Note: writing/publishing helps ME determine someone’s expertise. I don’t know that “sharing” in itself has anything to do …
9:05 PM caitsteinbach A4: Continuous Learning. Permanent Beta. #lrnchat https://t.co/YQfVsqiVWO
9:05 PM JaneBozarth THINGS ARE JUST ROCKIN’ TONIGHT I DO LOVE ME A FUN FAST #lrnchat
9:05 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you (personally) develop expertise? #lrnchat
9:05 PM TheRealAirton RT @Quinnovator: a4) like wisdom: err and err and err again, but less and less and less #lrnchat
9:05 PM jyoti__gupta q4) reading, reflecting, practicing, socializing about it #lrnchat
9:05 PM ryantracey RT @JD_Dillon: A4) Avoid thinking of yourself as an expert – refuse to be “finished” with your development #lrnchat
9:05 PM TriciaRansom a4) by doing (includes asking, thinking, reading, talking, sharing, teaching, questioning, self-editing, etc.) #lrnchat
9:05 PM sobith RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you (personally) develop expertise? #lrnchat
9:05 PM sueprendo RT @JD_Dillon: A4) Avoid thinking of yourself as an expert – refuse to be “finished” with your development #lrnchat
9:05 PM MelMilloway A4 Make what you do a part of your life not just a 9-5 job. #lrnchat https://t.co/pqMdtk592d
9:05 PM jmarrapodi A4) Attending #lrnchat! Maintaining and reading my PLN. Networking at conferences. Attending Conferences.
9:05 PM JD_Dillon A4) Share and let others help you refine your knowledge. Be open to failure and adjust. #lrnchat
9:05 PM caitsteinbach RT @JD_Dillon: A4) Avoid thinking of yourself as an expert – refuse to be “finished” with your development #lrnchat
9:05 PM brunowinck A3) they use a lot of second hand information from unverified sources that can be shown to lack valid points #lrnchat
9:05 PM ryantracey RT @TriciaRansom: a4) by doing (includes asking, thinking, reading, talking, sharing, teaching, questioning, self-editing, etc.) #lrnchat
9:05 PM OhThatRachel A4) Learn, practice, apply, repeat until mastery #lrnchat
9:05 PM willconstantine Q4) I try to put my learning into practice but I also get other perspectives from people and how they applied it #lrnchat
9:05 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you (personally) develop expertise? #lrnchat
9:05 PM InfinityTRS @lrnchat Read, research and hours of practice for results! #lrnchat
9:05 PM Ruthie_HB Q3a) If they lead you away from context? As I begin to question experts/authorities. #lrnchat
9:05 PM kmarranzino A3a) Someone who is not an expert may be able to explain the “what” and maybe even “how,” but not the “why.” #lrnchat
9:06 PM jmarrapodi A4) And Practice, practice, practice. Experiment. Discover. Explore. #lrnchat
9:06 PM patswiney @lrnchat Q4) I develop it through self study, practice, and real life application. #lrnchat
9:06 PM SimonBlairTrain A4: Immerse myself in the subject. Try things, break them, try to fix them, repeat. #lrnchat
9:06 PM jmarcielrozzi RT @JD_Dillon: A4) Share and let others help you refine your knowledge. Be open to failure and adjust. #lrnchat
9:06 PM mairithomson @OhThatRachel I don’t think I’d consider that person an expert then. If they couldn’t show/share their work and explain it… #lrnchat
9:06 PM write2tg RT @JD_Dillon RT @Quinnovator: a4) do, review, refine #lrnchat
9:06 PM hjarche @OhThatRachel no, but they will be perceived as less of an expert over time #lrnchat and that may result in the same effect
9:06 PM write2tg RT @jmarcielrozzi RT @JD_Dillon: A4) Share and let others help you refine your knowledge. Be open to failure and adjust. #lrnchat
9:06 PM TriciaRansom @hjarche @write2tg He also had an internal self-assurance that his knowledge of the plane and emergency procedures was 10/10 #lrnchat
9:06 PM jsuzcampos Q4) I find that teaching helps me develop expertise. I can only explain things I thoroughly understand. #lrnchat
9:06 PM jmarrapodi RT @jsuzcampos: Q4) I find that teaching helps me develop expertise. I can only explain things I thoroughly understand. #lrnchat
9:06 PM urbie #lrnchat A3a Story maybe. Is it easy to tell stories about them?
9:06 PM brunowinck A3) Most of their badges are baked by themselves after midnight on nights without moon light #Lrnchat
9:06 PM kmarranzino RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you (personally) develop expertise? #lrnchat
9:06 PM TheRealAirton A4) seek, ask, share, get corrected, rinse, repeat #lrnchat
9:06 PM patswiney @jmarrapodi I agree. An expert can’t be stagnant or static. Needs to keep up with material/experience #lrnchat
9:06 PM Ruthie_HB @JaneBozarth Hee. Isn’t writing/publishing still sharing? ;) #lrnchat
9:07 PM ryantracey A4) Read, ask questions, listen… #lrnchat
9:07 PM gailfus And practice your trade. #lrnchat
9:07 PM sobith A4) by sharing the so called expertise, constantly improvising your skills, keep an open mind #lrnchat
9:07 PM JD_Dillon A4) Practice doesn’t make perfect. Purposeful practice + feedback = improvement #lrnchat
9:07 PM OhThatRachel @hjarche why will they be perceived as less of an expert if they’re still producing results that only an expert could produce? #lrnchat
9:07 PM sueprendo Also passion and immersion #lrnchat
9:07 PM write2tg RT @JD_Dillon A4) Practice doesn’t make perfect. Purposeful practice + feedback = improvement #lrnchat
9:07 PM Ruthie_HB RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you (personally) develop expertise? #lrnchat
9:07 PM urbie #lrnchat A3a if the stories don’tv one or have a false ring then probably not.
9:07 PM MelMilloway A4 Collaborate learn from others. You will learn more if you get feedback. #lrnchat
9:07 PM TriciaRansom a4) I fail and learn from my failures. I share my failures, and take in feedback. #lrnchat
9:07 PM Quinnovator a4) er: do, review, refine, *repeat* #lrnchat https://t.co/jrO5hpjSy8
9:07 PM gailfus RT @JD_Dillon: A4) Share and let others help you refine your knowledge. Be open to failure and adjust. #lrnchat
9:07 PM patswiney @jsuzcampos can you teach holistically if you aren’t an expert yet? #lrnchat
9:07 PM jmarrapodi @willconstantine Yes. Laptop on. Ready to rock and roll.
#Rednoseday and all #lrnchat
9:07 PM mairithomson A4) I keep reading, thinking, doing, experimenting, listening, talking, connecting, adapting, applying… #lrnchat
9:08 PM write2tg A4) I think acknowledgement from others is what define’s one as an expert. #lrnchat
9:08 PM hjarche @lrnchat I constantly push at the edges of my profession, trying new things out, many of which fail #lrnchat
9:08 PM Ruthie_HB Q4) Be a sponge and be open to trying, trying and trying again. #lrnchat
9:08 PM JaneBozarth Q4 I try to be reflective and think of what worked, didn’t, what I’d do next time. Some days more successful at that than others. #lrnchat
9:08 PM JD_Dillon A4) Commit #lrnchat
9:08 PM jyoti__gupta @TriciaRansom that’s brave #lrnchat
9:08 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you (personally) develop expertise? #lrnchat
9:08 PM Quinnovator a4) reflect! #lrnchat
9:08 PM OhThatRachel @mairithomson they literally could, but because they only choose to share it how they want to doesn’t make them less of an expert #lrnchat
9:08 PM TriciaRansom @write2tg @hjarche These are good points – I need to do some reflection and think about them. #lrnchat
9:08 PM jmarrapodi RT @mairithomson: A4) I keep reading, thinking, doing, experimenting, listening, talking, connecting, adapting, applying… #lrnchat
9:08 PM Ruthie_HB RT @sueprendo: Also passion and immersion #lrnchat
9:08 PM Quinnovator RT @JaneBozarth: Q4 I try to be reflective and think of what worked, didn’t, what I’d do next time. Some days more successful at that than …
9:08 PM JaneBozarth I try to document it somehow — esp if solved difficult problem take screenshot, write it, do something w it #lrnchat
9:08 PM IOErikaO A4. Never accept I know it all it, and continue to learn, stay connected, and share. #lrnchat
9:08 PM write2tg A4) Being an expert is perhaps also about reflection. Your learning experiences are as good as how you reflect about them. #lrnchat
9:08 PM Harrison_CH73 A4) Be open to feedback. Never stop learning #lrnchat
9:09 PM willconstantine FYI: I am also waiting for @atdlearntech to join #lrnchat
9:09 PM brunowinck A4) In my field expertise & mastery r quite different.Expertise comes mostly from acquiring formal K,while mastery is more practice #Lrnchat
9:09 PM JaneBozarth RT @JD_Dillon: A4) Practice doesn’t make perfect. Purposeful practice + feedback = improvement #lrnchat
9:09 PM jmarrapodi @patswiney @jsuzcampos Lots of people teaching who are not experts – reading to keep ahead of the students. #lrnchat
9:09 PM JaneBozarth RT @gailfus: And practice your trade. #lrnchat
9:09 PM ryantracey A4) Think deeper than the obvious. #lrnchat
9:09 PM TheRealAirton A4) copy…um emulate the experts in said field #lrnchat
9:09 PM write2tg RT @JaneBozarth I try to document it somehow — esp if solved difficult problem take screenshot, write it, do something w it #lrnchat
9:09 PM hjarche @OhThatRachel they are perceived as less of an expert because nobody knows who they are #lrnchat it’s the curse of a networked society
9:09 PM JD_Dillon A4) Don’t make it about you. Focus on what you can do for others – for the community #lrnchat
9:09 PM kmarranzino A4) Research, study, try, fail, try again, explain, fail at explanation, study more, try again, explain again, person gets it. #lrnchat
9:09 PM write2tg RT @JD_Dillon A4) Don’t make it about you. Focus on what you can do for others – for the community #lrnchat
9:09 PM JaneBozarth @gailfus it’s critical. I see a lot of people who are all theory and no application #lrnchat
9:09 PM urbie #lrnchat A4 If at first you don’t succeed, try again. Missed on the second attempt? Ask for help. Do experts happen in a vacuum? Nope.
9:09 PM TheRealAirton Authority and expert should’ve been a drinking game #lrnchat
9:09 PM Quinnovator RT @hjarche: @lrnchat I constantly push at the edges of my profession, trying new things out, many of which fail #lrnchat
9:09 PM sueprendo Keep applying your knowledge to new areas of the topic to grow the connections #lrnchat
9:10 PM write2tg RT @sueprendo Keep applying your knowledge to new areas of the topic to grow the connections #lrnchat
9:10 PM AmberBrownTeach A4) surrounding yourself and learning from other experts, then teaching others your newfound knowledge #lrnchat
9:10 PM patswiney @jmarrapodi @jsuzcampos I agree that happens but is it comprehensive or a holistic approach? #lrnchat
9:10 PM JD_Dillon @gailfus it makes better … And better … #lrnchat
9:10 PM mairithomson @OhThatRachel Might not make them less of an expert, but would probably make their expertise less valuable and useful #lrnchat
9:10 PM trainersleaders MT @urbie #lrnchat If at first you don’t succeed, try again. Missed on second attempt? Ask for help. Do experts happen in a vacuum? Nope.
9:10 PM jmarrapodi @Harrison_CH73 He Chris! Welcome to Twitter! You’re diving in the deep end to jump in on #lrnchat. Good for you. Congrats on grad yr.1!
9:10 PM Ruthie_HB Q4) Lots of reading and practice but also bouncing thoughts w/ others whether they are experts or novices. Requires interaction. #lrnchat
9:10 PM TriciaRansom @jyoti__gupta For me, failure= extraordinarily personal and effective learning. Sharing gives even more value.#lrnchat
9:10 PM JaneBozarth Hang out with other experts. Choose the company you keep. Grow your PLN. Note: That’s not a “club”. #lrnchat
9:10 PM OhThatRachel @hjarche why do a lot of people have to know who they are to be an expert? I’d argue that would be someone who’s an authority #lrnchat
9:10 PM write2tg A4) Experts also tend to transfer more skills from one area to another. More connections in the brain and connections outside. #lrnchat
9:10 PM JaneBozarth RT @hjarche: @lrnchat I constantly push at the edges of my profession, trying new things out, many of which fail #lrnchat
9:10 PM gabriellabroady RT @Ruthie_HB: Q4) Lots of reading and practice but also bouncing thoughts w/ others whether they are experts or novices. Requires interact…
9:10 PM OhThatRachel @mairithomson that’s fine – I agree with that :) but they’re still an expert #lrnchat
9:10 PM urbie #lrnchat A4 A couple years ago deep in a rut I started gong off the beaten path to learn/grow. #edcamp. Later #tlap, #devlearn.
9:10 PM gailfus @JaneBozarth I’m caught between the desire to spend more time learning and doing and the everyday “stuff” that takes precedence. #lrnchat
9:11 PM JaneBozarth Admit mistakes and learn from them rather than waste energy covering up. #lrnchat
9:11 PM SimonBlairTrain @JaneBozarth @gailfus “I’m an expert on the theory. Theoretically, I’m an expert.” :-) #lrnchat
9:11 PM jmarrapodi RT @SimonBlairTrain: @JaneBozarth @gailfus “I’m an expert on the theory. Theoretically, I’m an expert.” :-) #lrnchat
9:11 PM JaneBozarth RT @SimonBlairTrain: @JaneBozarth @gailfus “I’m an expert on the theory. Theoretically, I’m an expert.” :-) #lrnchat
9:11 PM Quinnovator a4) learn and work out loud, show your work & thinking and solicit feedback #lrnchat
9:11 PM lrnchat Q5) Is it /what is the expert’s role in sharing with others/helping novices? #lrnchat
9:11 PM jmarrapodi RT @lrnchat: Q5) Is it /what is the expert’s role in sharing with others/helping novices? #lrnchat
9:11 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q5) Is it /what is the expert’s role in sharing with others/helping novices? #lrnchat
9:11 PM JaneBozarth @SimonBlairTrain @gailfus Here let me write a book on effective workplaces although I’ve never actually had a job #lrnchat
9:11 PM mairithomson @OhThatRachel Definitely! Maybe in their own mind more than others :) #lrnchat
9:11 PM jyoti__gupta @TriciaRansom absolutely. so many people are SO afraid of public failure and it’s gotta be stifling and stressful #lrnchat
9:11 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat: Q5) Is it /what is the expert’s role in sharing with others/helping novices? #lrnchat
9:11 PM urbie #lrnchat A4 Crowdsourcing PD basically. Not just best practices. But spinning them around to my context. Occasional gold results.
9:12 PM TriciaRansom a4) No one is all-knowing about a subject. All teachers, experts or not, teach that which is unknown to them #lrnchat
9:12 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q5) Is it /what is the expert’s role in sharing with others/helping novices? #lrnchat
9:12 PM brunowinck @OhThatRachel @hjarche Rachel as a point here #lrnchat In many fields network are often asymetric
9:12 PM gabriellabroady RT @lrnchat: Q5) Is it /what is the expert’s role in sharing with others/helping novices? #lrnchat
9:12 PM TheRealAirton RT @lrnchat: Q5) Is it /what is the expert’s role in sharing with others/helping novices? #lrnchat
9:12 PM Ruthie_HB RT @lrnchat: Q5) Is it /what is the expert’s role in sharing with others/helping novices? #lrnchat
9:12 PM jmarrapodi A5) would love to say that experts “owe it to the field” to share their knowledge. Not sure most would agree. #lrnchat
9:12 PM TriciaRansom RT @lrnchat: Q5) Is it /what is the expert’s role in sharing with others/helping novices? #lrnchat
9:12 PM MelMilloway Don’t get cocky. Keep it real. Look at yourself from other’s perspectives and find out where you need to improve. #lrnchat
9:12 PM joansie74 @lrnchat #lrnchat a4) learn, explore, build collaboration, and start the cycle over
9:12 PM Quinnovator a5) an expert should be interacting w/ other experts, mentoring those below; serving as a SME may be reserved for specials #lrnchat
9:12 PM write2tg A5) When experts make their knowledge transparent, novices feel more confident in giving it a shot #lrnchat
9:12 PM kmarranzino RT @lrnchat: Q5) Is it /what is the expert’s role in sharing with others/helping novices? #lrnchat
9:12 PM mairithomson @JaneBozarth @SimonBlairTrain @gailfus That would be an interesting book :) #lrnchat
9:12 PM JD_Dillon A5) It’s the point of becoming an “expert” … #lrnchat https://t.co/9twCQdBLZa
9:12 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q5) Is it /what is the expert’s role in sharing with others/helping novices? #lrnchat
9:12 PM OhThatRachel A5) Whatever they’d like it to be #lrnchat
9:12 PM ryantracey @jmarrapodi I’d say they at least owe it to their employer. #lrnchat
9:12 PM trainersleaders q5) A great expert recognizes that sharing with others/helping novices is payback for all that contributed to his/her expertise #lrnchat
9:12 PM PatriceKiraly RT @lrnchat: Q3a) How can you tell someone is NOT an expert/authority? #lrnchat
9:12 PM Ruthie_HB Q5) Without novices, we wouldn’t need experts. #lrnchat
9:12 PM sueprendo #lrnchat to realize that they have to get there themselves-provide the support and scaffolding https://t.co/o5LX0cO2Mu
9:13 PM JaneBozarth Hire bosses who are not threatened by workers with expertise. #lrnchat
9:13 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q5) Is it /what is the expert’s role in sharing with others/helping novices? #lrnchat
9:13 PM willconstantine Q5) growing the community in a direction that enables knowledge sharing #lrnchat
9:13 PM sobith @write2tg As Steve Jobs said its all about connecting the dots #lrnchat
9:13 PM gailfus @JaneBozarth Thank you! I’d rather apologize, propose a solution, and move on. Covering up never really works. #lrnchat
9:13 PM jmarrapodi A5) I love working with new IDs and students. I enjoy their discoveries. Is that teacher-think or expert-sharing? #lrnchat
9:13 PM Quinnovator RT @JaneBozarth: Hire bosses who are not threatened by workers with expertise. #lrnchat
9:13 PM TriciaRansom a5) Expert’s role is whatever they want it to be. Just because I develop extpertise via sharing/helping doesn’t mean others do so #lrnchat
9:13 PM write2tg RT @trainersleaders q5) A great expert recognizes that sharing with others is payback for all that contributed to his/her expertise #lrnchat
9:13 PM gabriellabroady A5. Guide by the side. Encourage questions, applaud efforts even if not successful right away #lrnchat
9:13 PM hjarche @OhThatRachel most people seek expertise on the web, if they can’t find you, you are not a recognized expert #lrnchat not saying it’s good
9:13 PM patswiney @urbie definitely not in a vacuum. Time and experience build experts.#lrnchat
9:13 PM sobith RT @lrnchat: Q5) Is it /what is the expert’s role in sharing with others/helping novices? #lrnchat
9:13 PM TheRealAirton A5) share in order to allow reflection and correction from outside views. Hopefully #lrnchat
9:13 PM jmarrapodi YES! RT @Ruthie_HB Q5) Without novices, we wouldn’t need experts. #lrnchat
9:14 PM MarielaLlovera RT @JaneBozarth: Hire bosses who are not threatened by workers with expertise. #lrnchat
9:14 PM JaneBozarth #lrnchat en fuego
9:14 PM InfinityTRS @lrnchat I think true professionals with pride help those who seek help and contribute to the community. #lrnchat
9:14 PM patswiney @lrnchat they are not obligated to share but everyone advances if they do share #lrnchat
9:14 PM gabriellabroady RT @jmarrapodi: YES! RT @Ruthie_HB Q5) Without novices, we wouldn’t need experts. #lrnchat
9:14 PM cwalms RT @MelMilloway: Don’t get cocky. Keep it real. Look at yourself from other’s perspectives and find out where you need to improve. #lrnchat
9:14 PM JD_Dillon RT @jmarrapodi: YES! RT @Ruthie_HB Q5) Without novices, we wouldn’t need experts. #lrnchat
9:14 PM mairithomson A5) IMO an experts role is to share their work/work out loud so that others can see the process and better understand the content #lrnchat
9:14 PM urbie #lrnchat A5 Experts role? Roll. Expert gathers no moss. They’re out there sharing actively, challenging others. Like @TechNinjaTodd #eduls.
9:14 PM Ruthie_HB Q5) I think novices help further an expert’s expertise by growing the problem space for a solution to be found. #lrnchat
9:14 PM jyoti__gupta a5) works both ways. in fast moving industries, experts have to assume sometimes they aren’t the experts and the young ‘uns are #lrnchat
9:14 PM write2tg A5) Experts should be confident in themselves and not be threatened by novices becoming an expert some day. #lrnchat
9:14 PM IOErikaO A5. I don’t think there is an obligation to share.Its just good manners(southern accent) & being an engaging member of your field. #lrnchat
9:14 PM JaneBozarth @mairithomson @SimonBlairTrain @gailfus They are interesting, all right. AND THERE ARE SO MANY. SO VERY MANY. #lrnchat
9:14 PM OhThatRachel @hjarche I think it’s just semantics here, to me a “recognized expert” = an “authority” #lrnchat
9:15 PM TriciaRansom a5) at one point in his career, my dad was an expert in his field. He was not, nor will be, a sharer/developer/helper #lrnchat
9:15 PM kelly_smith01 Q5) Expert must also know how to share – not to overwhelm or overload #lrnchat
9:15 PM patswiney @TriciaRansom yes, they get to decide if they want to or not. We hope they do but not obligated #lrnchat
9:15 PM ryantracey @patswiney Even if you are paying them for their expertise? As an employer, I would want a team player. #lrnchat
9:15 PM caitsteinbach A5: Absolutely! What is progress without knowledge sharing? Stunted. #lrnchat https://t.co/ZPMiIeV0Nb
9:15 PM sobith A5) that’s how most folks in the trades learn #mentorship #apprenticeship #lrnchat
9:15 PM Ruthie_HB Yes! RT @write2tg: A5) Experts should be confident in themselves and not be threatened by novices becoming an expert some day. #lrnchat
9:15 PM MelMilloway A5 In a perfect world experts would share/collaborate but many have such large egos that it never happensn #lrnchat
9:15 PM urbie #lrnchat A5 Like @JaneBozarth calling me out to #ShowYourWork
9:15 PM write2tg They hoard or they let go completely! RT @kelly_smith01 Q5) Expert must also know how to share – not to overwhelm or overload #lrnchat
9:15 PM gailfus A5) As someone else mentioned, part of being an expert is sharing. Taking on novices and helping them along should be mandatory. #lrnchat
9:15 PM OhThatRachel @hjarche but to me, you can be an expert if you’re producing expert results. I can be an expert gardener and only my friends know #lrnchat
9:16 PM SimonBlairTrain A5: An expert who doesn’t share/help is like a tree falling in a forest with nobody to hear it. #lrnchat
9:16 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A5) Sharing is caring. You learn more and refine your expertise by sharing with others than by hoarding your expertise. #lrnchat
9:16 PM patswiney @ryantracey as an employer yes but just speaking in general about expertise, not so much #lrnchat
9:16 PM ryantracey RT @SimonBlairTrain: A5: An expert who doesn’t share/help is like a tree falling in a forest with nobody to hear it. #lrnchat
9:16 PM lrnchat Q6) In a world with ever-accelerating information, what’s the future of the expert/expertise? #lrnchat
9:16 PM JaneBozarth RT @urbie: #lrnchat A5 Like @JaneBozarth calling me out to #ShowYourWork
9:16 PM
9:16 PM Ruthie_HB @write2tg Ditto! I think the goal would be for the novice to become the expert. It’s cyclic. #lrnchat
9:16 PM OhThatRachel Yup! A lot of experts live outside the realm of a perfect world #lrnchat https://t.co/j4OYyE06v7
9:16 PM write2tg A5) Its important to acknowledge that not all experts make great coaches. Expertise and coaching are separate competencies. #lrnchat
9:16 PM TheRealAirton A5) openness to begin again and again and again and …. #lrnchat
9:16 PM Quinnovator that’s what I’m talking about, the difference between an expert and a useful SME #lrnchat https://t.co/KbeZoy1Okq
9:16 PM brunowinck @jyoti__gupta true and this force them to open up if they want to stay in the race #Lrnchat valid only in open knowledge market places
9:16 PM Ruthie_HB RT @SimonBlairTrain: A5: An expert who doesn’t share/help is like a tree falling in a forest with nobody to hear it. #lrnchat
9:16 PM margiemeacham @lrnchat #lrnchat So experts tend to learn or rediscover something by helping novices
9:16 PM jmarrapodi A6) Learn faster! Keep sharing. Feed the stream. #lrnchat
9:16 PM kmarranzino A5) I think real experts let novices fail (when safe to do so) then coach through reflection and practice. Create teachable moments #lrnchat
9:16 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q6) In a world with ever-accelerating information, what’s the future of the expert/expertise? #lrnchat
9:16 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q6) In a world with ever-accelerating information, what’s the future of the expert/expertise? #lrnchat
9:17 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q6) In a world with ever-accelerating information, what’s the future of the expert/expertise? #lrnchat
9:17 PM TriciaRansom .@JaneBozarth raised key point – THEORETICAL vs APPLIED expertise. Completely different. #lrnchat
9:17 PM write2tg @Ruthie_HB I agree. If the novice becomes an expert, its the reward that the expert should seek! #lrnchat
9:17 PM jsuzcampos Q6) Expertise will be about connections, not knowledge or skill. #lrnchat
9:17 PM sobith @willconstantine agree! Trust plays a major role there #lrnchat
9:17 PM jmarrapodi A6) Learn more. Hone your skills. You don’t need to know it all. There’s plenty to share. #lrnchat
9:17 PM hjarche @OhThatRachel not semantics. networked societies different from market/institutional societies. knowledge & expertise will shift #lrnchat
9:17 PM ryantracey A6) The future of expertise is knowing where rather than what (thank you Mr Siemens) #lrnchat
9:17 PM Learning_Dude Oh, please @Storify this #lrnchat. How did I miss this?!
9:17 PM SimonBlairTrain A6: The “expert” will be the person who learns the fastest, not the one who knows the most. #lrnchat
9:17 PM trainersleaders q6) Future of expert/expertise includes commitment to lifelong learning, immersion in collaboration, & contributing to community #lrnchat
9:17 PM sueprendo According to the highest level of blooms tax, they should influence, persuade, validate, assess…Does the highest level = expert? #lrnchat
9:17 PM Quinnovator a6) increasing narrowness of expertise (the wedge of the ever expanding circle) #lrnchat
9:17 PM JaneBozarth I don’t know that sharing is a defining feature of “expert” but I am likely to see those who share as more credible #lrnchat
9:17 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat: Q6) In a world with ever-accelerating information, what’s the future of the expert/expertise? #lrnchat
9:17 PM margiemeacham @lrnchat #lrnchat I’d say when they overstate everything in broad generalized terms. Experts more likely see the nuance of things
9:17 PM ryantracey @Learning_Dude Only experts knew about it. #lrnchat
9:17 PM mairithomson @OhThatRachel @hjarche Your plants would know too. And they’d love you :) #lrnchat
9:17 PM sobith RT @lrnchat: Q6) In a world with ever-accelerating information, what’s the future of the expert/expertise? #lrnchat
9:17 PM jmarrapodi RT @TriciaRansom: .@JaneBozarth raised key point – THEORETICAL vs APPLIED expertise. Completely different. #lrnchat
9:18 PM gabriellabroady @OhThatRachel @hjarche Agreed! #lrnchat
9:18 PM urbie #lrnchat A5 @ryantracey nailed it with rhizomatic learning tweet. I love it when a tweet sends me to a dictionary
9:18 PM Ruthie_HB RT @lrnchat: Q6) In a world with ever-accelerating information, what’s the future of the expert/expertise? #lrnchat
9:18 PM write2tg A6) Future of expertise: hmmm…calling the experts… #lrnchat
9:18 PM brunowinck @OhThatRachel @hjarche true but after some time your peers experts will be less inclined to share with you edge knowledge #lrnchat
9:18 PM Quinnovator a6) and a new type of expertise: across the fields, integrating (attention to connections, not attention to detail) #lrnchat
9:18 PM JD_Dillon A6) Decentralized and crowdsourced … The community will define expertise #lrnchat https://t.co/GVZRmpOWF1
9:18 PM JaneBozarth Q6 we’re realizing we just can’t know it all. expert like Buddah at the end of the hall may not exist for much longer. #lrnchat
9:18 PM MelMilloway @OhThatRachel Yea, we miss out on a lot. Experts should treat everyone as equals, we’re not lesser ppl for not being experts. #lrnchat
9:18 PM patswiney @lrnchat Q6) it is moving to technology and social media. Instant information and availability. That’s the future #lrnchat
9:18 PM jmarrapodi A6) There will always be someone who knows more than you do. Continue to learn from others. #lrnchat
9:18 PM urbie RT @hjarche: @OhThatRachel experts who don’t share are less useful in a networked society http://t.co/57BdEFkv1M #lrnchat http://t.co/dwU1…
9:18 PM gailfus @MelMilloway I think they are also afraid of becoming redundant, of losing their position in the community. #lrnchat
9:18 PM gabriellabroady RT @write2tg: RT @lrnchat: Q6) In a world with ever-accelerating information, what’s the future of the expert/expertise? #lrnchat
9:18 PM JaneBozarth q6 we’ll learn that expertise can belong to a crowd, not individual #lrnchat
9:18 PM margiemeacham @lrnchat #lrnchat I’m guessing that “expert” is coming to mean someone who curates the info and knows how to access it.
9:18 PM EllenBJohnson RT @jmarrapodi: A6) There will always be someone who knows more than you do. Continue to learn from others. #lrnchat
9:18 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q6) In a world with ever-accelerating information, what’s the future of the expert/expertise? #lrnchat
9:19 PM JaneBozarth RT @gailfus
I think they are also afraid of becoming redundant, of losing their position in the community. #lrnchat
9:19 PM IOErikaO A6. Simple answer but I believe to be creators and facilitators of said information. #lrnchat
9:19 PM Quinnovator @JaneBozarth yes, ability to do is 1 point, ability to articulate is greater insight into their ability #lrnchat
9:19 PM write2tg A6) Expertise will not be about age, authority, position or power. It will be about community, contribution and coaching. #lrnchat
9:19 PM sueprendo #lrnchat knowing how and when to filter the information. Being able to judge relevancy. Adapting skills to new ways https://t.co/VHdyD0VkC4
9:19 PM hjarche @OhThatRachel many farmers I know share expertise through networks, especially as climate change impacts them #lrnchat
9:19 PM TriciaRansom a6) in today’s world, expertise is simply knowing how to learn quickly, unlearn quickly, and adapt quickly #lrnchat
9:19 PM write2tg RT @TriciaRansom a6) in today’s world, expertise is simply knowing how to learn quickly, unlearn quickly, and adapt quickly #lrnchat
9:19 PM ryantracey RT @write2tg: A6) Expertise will not be about age, authority, position or power. It will be about community, contribution and coaching. #l…
9:19 PM brunowinck @OhThatRachel @hjarche now there is another variant is the expert good at answering closed ques but poor at sharing knowledge #lrnchat
9:19 PM kmarranzino RT @lrnchat: Q6) In a world with ever-accelerating information, what’s the future of the expert/expertise? #lrnchat
9:19 PM write2tg RT @sueprendo #lrnchat knowing how and when to filter the information. Being able to judge relevancy. Adapting skills to new ways
9:19 PM trainersleaders Increasing our vocabularly, 140 characters at a time: MT @urbie #lrnchat I love it when a tweet sends me to a dictionary
9:19 PM EllenBJohnson RT @JD_Dillon: A6) Decentralized and crowdsourced … The community will define expertise #lrnchat https://t.co/GVZRmpOWF1
9:19 PM sueprendo RT @Quinnovator: a6) and a new type of expertise: across the fields, integrating (attention to connections, not attention to detail) #lrnch…
9:19 PM MelMilloway RT @write2tg: A6) Expertise will not be about age, authority, position or power. It will be about community, contribution and coaching. #l…
9:19 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 Crowdsourcing. #DesignThinking How does that quote go: All of us is smarter than any of us. That.
9:20 PM JaneBozarth @Quinnovator I have a hard time with self-proclaimed “thought leaders” who don’t publish #lrnchat
9:20 PM EllenBJohnson RT @write2tg: A6) Future of expertise: hmmm…calling the experts… #lrnchat
9:20 PM jyoti__gupta @brunowinck Agree. I try to make a point to keep reading/learning, tho it’s been a challenge since graduating #lrnchat
9:20 PM OhThatRachel @hjarche I agree, but expert farmers who don’t share aren’t less experts for that fact. They’re just not as good of people #lrnchat
9:20 PM Ruthie_HB Q6) I think someone else mentioned this but we will need to rely on our #PLN vs. the popular. #lrnchat
9:20 PM TriciaRansom a6) part of learning/unlearning quickly is knowing that network more expert than single person, and networks only work via sharing #lrnchat
9:20 PM KeithCEnochs RT @MelMilloway: Don’t get cocky. Keep it real. Look at yourself from other’s perspectives and find out where you need to improve. #lrnchat
9:20 PM mairithomson A6) Great question! The future is collaboratively developing and sharing expertise in real-time. Mass connectedness #lrnchat
9:20 PM InfinityTRS @lrnchat Q6) If you don’t act on the information or practice what is learned, then no impact. #lrnchat
9:20 PM ryantracey RT @Ruthie_HB: Q6) I think someone else mentioned this but we will need to rely on our #PLN vs. the popular. #lrnchat
9:20 PM LTWorth RT @theASIDEblog: People in position of authority should consult with experts in the trenches. #lrnchat
9:20 PM gailfus A6) I fear that “expertise” will become an overused word like “diva” or “epic.” Its true meaning will be diluted. #lrnchat
9:20 PM trainersleaders Nice observation re future of expertise: RT @JaneBozarth q6 we’ll learn that expertise can belong to a crowd, not individual #lrnchat
9:21 PM CaveoLearning Q: What should we call #Learning & Development?
A: It’s not important.
http://t.co/cbwHX6ZfUZ #lrnchat #training #atd
9:21 PM Ruthie_HB RT @JD_Dillon: A6) Decentralized and crowdsourced … The community will define expertise #lrnchat https://t.co/GVZRmpOWF1
9:21 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q6) In a world with ever-accelerating information, what’s the future of the expert/expertise? #lrnchat
9:21 PM OhThatRachel A6) I think experts who want to share are finding more ways to, but so are non-experts, so it gets cloudy at times #lrnchat
9:21 PM sueprendo The question is, will expertise be needed anymore? If knowledge is so transparent and available? #lrnchat
9:21 PM JaneBozarth @Ruthie_HB Finding the idea of PLN reduced to closed mutual cheerleading club. Not how I see it. My PLN = people I learn from. #lrnchat
9:21 PM patswiney @sueprendo @lrnchat that sounds like now. Are we already in the future :-) #lrnchat
9:21 PM TriciaRansom My point exactly RT @OhThatRachel: @hjarche…expert farmers who don’t share aren’t less experts They’re just not as good of people #lrnchat
9:21 PM kmarranzino A6) I have no idea. Will expertise even exist? Will Google become the expert on everything? It’ll be interesting/terrifying to see. #lrnchat
9:21 PM InfinityTRS @lrnchat Passion however has no limits to success and expertise. #lrnchat
9:21 PM jyoti__gupta a6) machine-assisted expertise – those who have access to AI will be experts and have access to millions of times more knowledge #lrnchat
9:21 PM JaneBozarth @triciaransom yes expertise will be in the network #lrnchat
9:21 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat Edit: A6) The future will see less of experts and more of ‘informed citizens’ as societies become increasinly networked #lrnchat
9:21 PM mairithomson RT @urbie: #lrnchat A6 Crowdsourcing. #DesignThinking How does that quote go: All of us is smarter than any of us. That.
9:22 PM kelly_smith01 Q6) Certainly more tools for sharing and collaboration #lrnchat
9:22 PM MelMilloway @OhThatRachel @hjarche I know so many ppl like that. Esp. in sciences and mathematics. You don’t have to be a ppl person. #lrnchat
9:22 PM TheRealAirton @JaneBozarth @Quinnovator exactly. I want to scream Show Your Work! Or gift them your work.. #lrnchat
9:22 PM TheRealAirton @JaneBozarth @Quinnovator exactly. I want to scream Show Your Work! Or gift them your work.. #lrnchat
9:22 PM gabriellabroady A6. Experts need to collaborate w/other experts to write, market, globalize, etc knowledge product. No one has all skills. #lrnchat
9:22 PM JaneBozarth RT @TheRealAirton: @JaneBozarth @Quinnovator exactly. I want to scream Show Your Work! Or gift them your work.. #lrnchat
9:22 PM lrnchat Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
9:22 PM gailfus @JaneBozarth I like this thought. Each contribution adding to the whole picture. #lrnchat
9:22 PM DrBrewhaha Check out the twitter chat check out #lrnchat #usu5010
9:22 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
9:22 PM brunowinck A6) future connected experts and mastering the right learning+social+knowledge management tools.Good example Stack Overflow+Github #lrnchat
9:22 PM write2tg A6) Sharing, collaboration and collective expertise might be the way into the future of experts. #lrnchat
9:22 PM Quinnovator @JaneBozarth how can they be ‘leading’ thought if they’re not *showing* it? #lrnchat
9:22 PM jmarrapodi RT @lrnchat: Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
9:22 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
9:22 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
9:22 PM ryantracey A7) Nothing. I knew it all. #lrnchat
9:22 PM TriciaRansom I hereby declare that expertise now doesn’t mean deep knowledge, it means deep networks and intense sharing/helping/questioning #lrnchat
9:22 PM JaneBozarth @Quinnovator Because they say so. ? #lrnchat
9:22 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
9:23 PM kelly_smith01 RT @TriciaRansom: a6) part of learning/unlearning quickly is knowing that network more expert than single person, and networks only work vi…
9:23 PM TriciaRansom RT @lrnchat: Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
9:23 PM hjarche @OhThatRachel Good point. If expert status is ‘conferred’ by society, then not sharing could result in not being seen as expert #lrnchat
9:23 PM patswiney @sueprendo @lrnchat very true. We are in the prime of the Internet and accessible information #lrnchat
9:23 PM anchalmanocha A 6. Expertise will lie more in the connections of our mind, the social network and in existing knowledge to new knowledge. #lrnchat
9:23 PM willconstantine That if I ever become an “expert” I’m going to be the kind described here. #lrnchat
9:23 PM JaneBozarth RT @hjarche: @OhThatRachel Good point. If expert status is ‘conferred’ by society, then not sharing could result in not being seen as exper…
9:23 PM JaneBozarth RT @willconstantine: That if I ever become an “expert” I’m going to be the kind described here. #lrnchat
9:23 PM rickzanotti RT @JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator I have a hard time with self-proclaimed “thought leaders” who don’t publish #lrnchat
9:23 PM kmarranzino RT @lrnchat: Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
9:23 PM Quinnovator @JaneBozarth right: you can’t call yourself a ‘thought leader’, others do so #lrnchat
9:23 PM InfinityTRS @lrnchat Q7) Expertise is someone else’s perspective #lrnchat
9:23 PM jmarrapodi A7) Despite your expertise, there is always someone who knows more that you can learn from. #lrnchat
9:23 PM trainersleaders An expert, responding to the question “What did you learn tonight?”: RT @ryantracey A7) Nothing. I knew it all. #lrnchat
9:23 PM OhThatRachel @JaneBozarth isn’t it strange that “Twitter” as a collective is an absolute expert at L&D? But few individuals are #lrnchat
9:23 PM JD_Dillon A7) We need more experts to understand the value of expertise, and @willconstantine won’t go to Panera. #lrnchat https://t.co/Pot82Qr8VJ
9:23 PM MelMilloway @ryantracey LOL stay golden, Ryan. #lrnchat
9:23 PM IOErikaO I learned that I love the learning community! #lrnchat
9:23 PM jyoti__gupta @kmarranzino True – part terrifying. Google’s “morality” is in the hands of its programmers #lrnchat
9:24 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A7) I learned that I will need to think more on what I don’t know. Good questions tonight. Provoked deeper thinking #lrnchat
9:24 PM patswiney @lrnchat Q7) that people have differing opinions on experts and how to apply #lrnchat
9:24 PM hjarche @lrnchat I learned that expertise is in the eye of beholder ;) #lrnchat
9:24 PM JaneBozarth @JD_Dillon @willconstantine por quoi? Panera is delicious. #lrnchat
9:24 PM kelly_smith01 RT @willconstantine: That if I ever become an “expert” I’m going to be the kind described here. #lrnchat
9:24 PM jmarrapodi RT @hjarche: @OhThatRachel Good point. If expert status is ‘conferred’ by society, then not sharing could result in not being seen as exper…
9:24 PM TriciaRansom I learned that because I declare I’m an expert, I can be an expert…as long as I can google faster than others #lrnchat
9:24 PM urbie #lrnchat A7 70 minutes. The time it takes from ingestion of Claritin-D to relief for a person like me.. Also scaled of idea of expert.
9:24 PM trainersleaders q7) Learned, from our #lrnchat session this evening, that differentiating btwn authority & expertise is more challenging than expected
9:24 PM sobith A7) Experts turn the Adblocker ON #lrnchat
9:24 PM gabriellabroady @JaneBozarth @Quinnovator sometimes folks struggle w/being 100th blog on topic X, not being quiet to hoard; not easy to toot horn #lrnchat
9:24 PM DrBrewhaha What and when is #lrnchat? http://t.co/TZqYTzhS2P #usu5010
9:24 PM sueprendo #lrnchat the collective brain is the new expert…the potential of that is unbelievable!! https://t.co/arMzZbtbca
9:24 PM MelMilloway @JD_Dillon @willconstantine He has had enough of that in his life. Boycott the bread. Slogan of the night. #lrnchat
9:24 PM write2tg A7) I learned that I don’t want to ‘become’ an expert. But I want to be ‘known’ as one by my PLN and connections. #lrnchat
9:24 PM OhThatRachel @hjarche yup! agreed! being seen as an expert, and just being one are different to me, depends on what is important to the expert! #lrnchat
9:24 PM Ruthie_HB @JaneBozarth Right. Do you trust the YouTube video that has millions of views or one that’s share amongst your learning network? #lrnchat
9:24 PM gabriellabroady RT @hjarche: @OhThatRachel Good point. If expert status is ‘conferred’ by society, then not sharing could result in not being seen as exper…
9:24 PM gabriellabroady RT @TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
9:25 PM TheRealAirton A7) I’m an expert on getting expo swag and an authority napping #lrnchat
9:25 PM Harrison_CH73 @jmarrapodi Thank you! I am enjoying every bit of it! #lrnchat has some great insight!
9:25 PM lrnchat Many new faces tonight. #lrnchat was hopping and we may not have welcomed all. Did you have a good time? -jb
9:25 PM Ruthie_HB RT @lrnchat: Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
9:25 PM urbie #lrnchat A7 Did anyone’s autocorrect change expert to ex-spurt? #AskingForaFriend
9:25 PM ryantracey A7) I learned that my peers think of expertise much they same way that I do, and I’m glad. #lrnchat
9:25 PM kmarranzino A7) I learned that there seem to be fewer definitions of “expertise” than “authority!” #lrnchat
9:25 PM TriciaRansom Also learned that our entire belief systems are revealed when trying to publicly define word. Expose all subconscious connotations #lrnchat
9:25 PM JaneBozarth RT @kmarranzino A7) I learned that there seem to be fewer definitions of “expertise” than “authority!” #lrnchat
9:25 PM urbie RT @ryantracey: A7) Nothing. I knew it all. #lrnchat
9:25 PM gabriellabroady A7. Expertise is not always what you know, but how you share it. #lrnchat
9:25 PM JaneBozarth @TriciaRansom ha! yes #lrnchat
9:25 PM JaneBozarth RT @ryantracey: A7) Nothing. I knew it all. #lrnchat
9:25 PM Quinnovator what he said #lrnchat https://t.co/DEoflCSSUO
9:25 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A7) I also learned that I should think about the work distinction between ‘experienced’ and ‘expert’.#lrnchat
9:25 PM gabriellabroady RT @hjarche: @lrnchat I learned that expertise is in the eye of beholder ;) #lrnchat
9:26 PM brunowinck A7) that the E in SME is subject to interpretation in the materiality of it in #LrnChat.
Everything is relative http://t.co/a1qYzscytx
9:26 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Many new faces tonight. #lrnchat was hopping and we may not have welcomed all. Did you have a good time? -jb
9:26 PM gailfus A7) That this community is full of experts who share! :-) #lrnchat
9:26 PM Ruthie_HB Q7) I learned if I should not categorize individuals as experts/authorities as it can corner them sometimes. #lrnchat
9:26 PM write2tg A7) I was reassured that the experts in this chat epitomize the definition of experts and I would like to emulate them! #lrnchat
9:26 PM trainersleaders The type of question that fosters great community: MT @lrnchat Many new faces tonight…Did you have a good time? -jb #lrnchat
9:26 PM Ruthie_HB RT @hjarche: @lrnchat I learned that expertise is in the eye of beholder ;) #lrnchat
9:26 PM TheRealAirton Next expo I will be sharing my expo-swag-acquisition authority to padawans like @MelMilloway #lrnchat
9:26 PM mairithomson A7) Different views on what being an expert means. Is it a noun or a verb? I think a verb… #lrnchat
9:26 PM JD_Dillon Always a good time – especially with a crowd of new and familiar faces! Thanks Dr. J! #lrnchat https://t.co/i9eopMohs0
9:26 PM OhThatRachel A7) I learned a lot about what people want experts to be :) #lrnchat (I want them to be sharing and thoughtful too!)
9:26 PM urbie #lrnchat yup. Good times like these keeps me coming back
9:26 PM Ruthie_HB RT @TriciaRansom: Also learned that our entire belief systems are revealed when trying to publicly define word. Expose all subconscious con…
9:26 PM JaneBozarth @Ruthie_HB @hjarche … and I was kind of surprised by that. #lrnchat
9:26 PM write2tg RT @OhThatRachel A7) I learned a lot about what people want experts to be :) #lrnchat (I want them to be sharing and thoughtful too!)
9:26 PM JaneBozarth RT @mairithomson: A7) Different views on what being an expert means. Is it a noun or a verb? I think a verb… #lrnchat
9:26 PM gabriellabroady RT @Ruthie_HB: Q7) I learned if I should not categorize individuals as experts/authorities as it can corner them sometimes. #lrnchat
9:26 PM JD_Dillon RT @Quinnovator: what he said #lrnchat https://t.co/DEoflCSSUO
9:27 PM lrnchat QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:27 PM Quinnovator that #lrnchat https://t.co/n1Yy6qDrRu
9:27 PM ryantracey Had fun, already looking forward to next week! #lrnchat
9:27 PM TriciaRansom I’m an expert and authority on TriciaWorld. Never been, never discussed/mentored/shared expertise or authority. I am because I am #lrnchat
9:27 PM Ruthie_HB @TriciaRansom Yeah! Makes me think I should stop putting “experts” on pedestals. #lrnchat we can find a little bit of that in ourselves.
9:27 PM TheRealAirton A?) I still trust my grandma’s expertise in apple pies over the authority of Martha Stewart #lrnchat
9:27 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:27 PM TriciaRansom What they said RT @Quinnovator: what he said #lrnchat https://t.co/Z3V3je7OJW
9:27 PM OhThatRachel @kmarranzino someone’s got to put the knowledge into Google! #lrnchat
9:27 PM patswiney @Learning_Dude thanks for turning me on to the #lrnchat. Very fun and informative. A lot of great minds
9:27 PM Ruthie_HB RT @urbie: #lrnchat A7 Did anyone’s autocorrect change expert to ex-spurt? #AskingForaFriend
9:27 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:27 PM sueprendo #lrnchat What he said that he said https://t.co/FLhzVnwsL1
9:27 PM write2tg A7) Learned that expertise is not a position driven by authority or power but its a state of mind driven by community. #lrnchat
9:27 PM caitsteinbach RT @OhThatRachel: A7) I learned a lot about what people want experts to be :) #lrnchat (I want them to be sharing and thoughtful too!)
9:27 PM brunowinck @TriciaRansom sadly correct #lrnchat, You are now expert in expertise, For 15 minutes :)
9:28 PM trainersleaders Wrap-up: Paul Signorelli, writing-training-learning-consulting from San Francisco; blogging at http://t.co/SHnvJ7P8j6 #lrnchat
9:28 PM Quinnovator aW) blogging at http://t.co/Nm5yXCtwur, consulting at http://t.co/FfFRKQew2t, instigating trouble at http://t.co/riPao8fpZx #lrnchat
9:28 PM ryantracey AWrap) Ryan signing off from down under. Have a great weekend everyone. #lrnchat
9:28 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat: QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:28 PM MelMilloway I think we are all connected on LinkedIn but if not, ya know connect w. me. http://t.co/8dajmY6YjT #lrnchat
9:28 PM ryantracey APlug) From the vault… “Everyone is an SME” http://t.co/FLejzFNr0S + “See the wood for the SMEs” http://t.co/WV7zWxnaRa #lrnchat
9:28 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:28 PM JD_Dillon JD in Orlando, FL. Thanks for an engaging #lrnchat everyone! Blogging away at http://t.co/8xKUK5eqMk. https://t.co/4UTz7O4lev
9:28 PM urbie #lrnchat urbie, education engineer.. Mrs n me in DC next weekend. #EdCampUSA on the 29th sightseeing right after.
9:28 PM sueprendo #lrnchat dinner time! Thanks everyone – it’s been stellar as always :)
9:28 PM InfinityTRS @lrnchat another hour passed quickly. Go Lightning!! #lrnchat
9:28 PM JD_Dillon RT @Quinnovator: aW) blogging at http://t.co/Nm5yXCtwur, consulting at http://t.co/FfFRKQew2t, instigating trouble at http://t.co/riPao8fpZ…
9:28 PM Harrison_CH73 @lrnchat as a grad student, its great to soak up all of this information. Can’t wait to share with the class. #lrnchat
9:28 PM Quinnovator read his recent post (about my book ;) #lrnchat https://t.co/jPnHVGvB7b
9:28 PM Ruthie_HB Q7) Learned that #lrnchat can make you question yourself! Reflection is good.
9:29 PM willconstantine Will Constantine, LearnHaus is my creation. Really excited for the future! #lrnchat
9:29 PM SimonBlairTrain AWrap: Simon Blair, blogging at http://t.co/XaecrZKLnp. I also have expertise at not being an expert. #lrnchat
9:29 PM JaneBozarth Jane, author of “Show Your Work” and “Social Media for Trainers”. Headed for conference gigs in Vancouver, Denver, Portland OR #lrnchat
9:29 PM TheRealAirton Airton, expo swag acquirer, nap expert, sharer, friend, connector, griller of meat #lrnchat
9:29 PM trainersleaders MT @Quinnovator blogging at http://t.co/QetRZyxfvy … instigating trouble at http://t.co/nHS0uu0ZDg #lrnchat
9:29 PM OhThatRachel @MelMilloway same! say hello! connect! http://t.co/hMheVUKa5c #lrnchat
9:29 PM caitsteinbach Cait Steinbach – Annapolis, MD – Missed this! Until next time #lrnchat https://t.co/yrXDgqM1QU
9:29 PM kmarranzino @OhThatRachel Good point… until Google builds the AI that can do it itself! #lrnchat
9:29 PM mairithomson QWrap) Mairi from Australia. Having a great time building and sharing my expertise in learning, performance, innovation. Thanks #lrnchat :)
9:30 PM write2tg Qwrap) TG in Vancouver BC. Thank you for such an engaging conversation. Blog at http://t.co/oqgk8by82G #lrnchat
9:30 PM OhThatRachel Hi again :) I’m Rachel of http://t.co/m6wmjDfT3E | check out http://t.co/uf58IWcpY2 as well! #lrnchat
9:30 PM hjarche Plug: We do a deep dive into expertise on my PKM workshop http://t.co/x4g7Wdt6Vt registration closes Friday #lrnchat http://t.co/wFzB9K1tS9
9:30 PM trainersleaders MT @JaneBozarth author of “Show Your Work” & “Social Media for Trainers”. Headed for conference gigs… #lrnchat
9:30 PM TheRealAirton Don’t follow @TheAirton he was awful #lrnchat #eviltwin
9:30 PM jmarrapodi Qwrap) Jean Marrapodi, working at the intersection of high tech and low literacy. Celebrating #rednoseday for the kids. #lrnchat
9:30 PM TriciaRansom Shared topic w/co-worker. She mentioned that ppl can have authority over a person w/out being an authority in the field. #lrnchat
9:30 PM ryantracey Anyone going to EduTech in Oz, say hi. #lrnchat
9:30 PM JaneBozarth RT @TriciaRansom: Shared topic w/co-worker. She mentioned that ppl can have authority over a person w/out being an authority in the field. …
9:30 PM jyoti__gupta aWrap) #lrnchat Good night… Latest blog on 2015 #instructionaldesign conferences: https://t.co/7DkKN4yn6A
9:30 PM lrnchat Thanks everyone for joining #lrnchat tonight. See you next week! Look for weekly transcripts at http://t.co/ijNIXq164N

Transcript – May 14, 2015: How does your learning change across situations?

May 14, 2015 by

#lrnchat is an online chat over the social messaging service Twitter. It is held on Thursdays at 8:30-9:30pm ET/5:30-6:30pm PT.

Participants are people interested in the topic of learning from one another and who want to discuss how to help other people learn in formal, informal, social and mobile ways. We aim to steer clear of topics that are more “training department” oriented and focus on how people learn, what they learn, and what we’re learning.  If you an idea for a topic that you would like to suggest for #lrnchat, please feel free to reach out to any of the Chat Hosts.

This Week’s Chat Questions

  • When you’re learning something new, what sort of resources do you use? How do you learn about a completely new topic?
  • How do your efforts to learn something change once you have a foundational base of knowledge?
  • How do you learn on-the-job or in the task? What does that look like?
  • Much learning happens when we encounter exceptions to the norm. What resources help you learn during problem-solving?
  • When situations change, existing habits and skills may become outdated. How do you break habits so you can apply new skills?
  • See prereading on Apply- Solve- Change. How do you get new learning into your workflow?
  • What did you learn tonight?

Chat Transcript

NOTE: Tweets are listed in the order they were posted and are shown in Eastern Time. To visit the actual posting for a particular tweet, click the associated user name for the posting.

8:30 PM lrnchat Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
8:31 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
8:31 PM avanbarn @lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?” Busy week – great to be home! And you?
8:31 PM danno4krist Running to read the article and be back to join #lrnchat this morning on learning needs
8:31 PM MelMilloway Hi #lrnchat friends! I’ve been doing well but super busy! I missed everyone.
8:31 PM The_NthDegree @lrnchat Good afternoon/evening/morning everyone Nigel from NZ joining in :) #lrnchat
8:31 PM lrnchat Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat
8:32 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
8:32 PM MelMilloway @The_NthDegree @lrnchat Hi Nigel! #lrnchat
8:32 PM trainersleaders Joining weekly #lrnchat discussion–tonight’s topic Meeting *your* 5 moments of learning need. Reading: http://t.co/pEaL1hb0gs
8:32 PM sueprendo Hello #lrnchat ! Enjoying sunny vancouver right now. Looking forward to the chat.
8:32 PM urbie #lrnchat urbie, at the point in #designthinking where SMEs are running with it
8:32 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat: Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat
8:32 PM MelMilloway I’m getting ready for #ATD2015 and hope to see some of my fellow #lrnchat friends there!
8:33 PM learndrops Hi all. Laura with the Learndrops Project – lots of work on crowdsourcing #lrnchat
8:33 PM SLDoyle67 Good Evening, #lrnchat. Sharon from Calgary enjoying some quiet time while the boys are out.
8:33 PM MelMilloway @sueprendo Hi Sue! Nice to see you too. #lrnchat
8:33 PM trainersleaders Intro: Paul Signorelli, San Francisco-based writer-trainer-instructional designer-consultant; pursuing #ConnectedLearning opps #lrnchat
8:33 PM The_NthDegree @MelMilloway @The_NthDegree @lrnchat Hey Melissa :) Glad to make a lrnchat for a change :) #lrnchat
8:33 PM write2tg Hello #lrnchat Taruna Goel from Vancouver. Finished making pasta for dinner! Just-in-time for #lrnchat
8:33 PM SimonBlairTrain It’s time for #lrnchat! Today’s topic is Situational learning. Join us!
8:33 PM sobith Hi @MelMilloway @The_NthDegree #lrnchat
8:34 PM avanbarn @lrnchat #lrnchat: Biggest project is planning next move. Minor projects are conference presos. Blah.
8:34 PM MelMilloway @sobith @The_NthDegree Hi there! #lrnchat
8:34 PM SLDoyle67 Starting to introduce social media to my company to engage learners #lrnchat
8:34 PM lrnchat Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:34 PM willconstantine Hi. Heading home from RI #lrnchat
8:34 PM learningmark RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:34 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:34 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:34 PM sobith Hi @write2tg #lrnchat
8:34 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
8:34 PM WorkBrightNZ Jacinta from New Zealand @lrnchat Nice to be back for #lrnchat
8:35 PM write2tg @sobith Hello there! #lrnchat
8:35 PM rjpanetti Robert in Atlanta. I heard no one goes on #lrnchat any more. It’s too popular…
8:35 PM gabriellabroady Gabriella @ Yellow Giraffe Learning Partners in MN. Working on Growing Biz Thru SoMe for finance org, a safety course, & med device #lrnchat
8:35 PM sobith Hi @SLDoyle67 #lrnchat
8:35 PM write2tg @sueprendo The family will evaluate! No smily sheets here :) #lrnchat
8:35 PM learningmark Mark from Fayetteville/Fort Bragg NC. Packing for #ATD2015
#lrnchat
8:35 PM gabriellabroady RT @write2tg: RT @lrnchat Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:35 PM sueprendo #lrnchat sue, freelance in vancouver BC. Irish, working on gamification workshop for the CSTD Symposium in June!
8:35 PM kelly_smith01 Kelly Smith consulting in learning and telecom #lrnchat
8:35 PM SLDoyle67 Q0) I’m learning the rules of lacrosse this week #lrnchat
8:36 PM trainersleaders q0) Learned today that there’s always light at the end of the tunnel on intensely challenging projects #lrnchat
8:36 PM MelMilloway A0 @JD_Dillon introduced me to the Haystack app for sending and receiving business cards. Pretty nifty! #lrnchat https://t.co/DGfwU804ju
8:36 PM sobith RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:36 PM The_NthDegree A0 would be easier to ask what I didn’t learn! New job, new sector, new systems, budgets oh my! #lrnchat
8:36 PM WorkBrightNZ @lrnchat #lrnchat This week I learned how to take the player off Storyline modules so its better suited for mobile learning & looks better!
8:36 PM rjpanetti This week i learned how to become an expert… #lrnchat http://t.co/02ORK7kIRg
8:36 PM urbie A0 #lrnchat @urbie learned this cool infographic about teaching flow via @urban_teacher & @gazneedle http://t.co/fQgZoBK47q”
8:36 PM MelMilloway @learningmark Me too! I am so excited for #ATD2015. Have you been to many before? #lrnchat
8:37 PM learningmark A0) Learned that the best lessons aren’t necessarily in the content. #lrnchat
8:37 PM trainersleaders Succinct! RT @rjpanetti This week i learned how to become an expert… #lrnchat http://t.co/4IwJHi2h9f
8:37 PM Quinnovator Clark Quinn, L&D improvement instigator, consultant/author/speaker, facilitator of change, Walnut Creek CA #lrnchat
8:37 PM sueprendo #lrnchat I learned how useful #trello is, and I’m testing out some iPad apps to support my design and development https://t.co/7AcYc0u4Uv
8:37 PM learningmark @MelMilloway This is year 2 for me at the ICE. #ATD2015 #lrnchat
8:37 PM write2tg A0) This week I learned all about collaborative work spaces. This is what got me started https://t.co/czNUSyTUT1 #lrnchat
8:38 PM avanbarn “@rjpanetti: This week i learned how to become an expert… #lrnchat” And how is that going?
8:38 PM lrnchat Q1) When you’re learning something new, what sort of resources do you use? How do you learn about a completely new topic? #lrnchat
8:38 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q1) When you’re learning something new, what sort of resources do you use? How do you learn about a completely new topic? #lrn…
8:38 PM MelMilloway @learningmark Very nice! I was in that convention center for SHRM but not ATD. I bet it is just as large. #lrnchat
8:38 PM JeremyBond_film A0) Jeremy, parent from CT. Learned a lot of new things this week from 5th graders’ projects in the town’s gifted/talented program. #lrnchat
8:38 PM willconstantine Q0) all good things come in time #lrnchat
8:38 PM Quinnovator a0) this week I learned that having all the things in a pile to be taken doesn’t mean you’ll not forget one (doh!) #lrnchat
8:38 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q1) When you’re learning something new, what sort of resources do you use? How do you learn about a completely new topic? #lrn…
8:38 PM sellio7 RT @lrnchat: #lrnchat tonight! Meeting *your* 5 moments of learning need. READ THIS FIRST http://t.co/276FH96nzk . See you soon!
8:38 PM learningmark RT @lrnchat: Q1) When you’re learning something new, what sort of resources do you use? How do you learn about a completely new topic? #lrn…
8:38 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q1) When you’re learning something new, what sort of resources do you use? How do you learn about a completely new topic? #lrn…
8:38 PM avanbarn “@learningmark: A0) Learned that the best lessons aren’t necessarily in the content. #lrnchat” Where are they?
8:38 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A0) motivating colleagues to embrace a lrning mindset is hard when they believe lrning is outside work – hence no time #lrnchat
8:38 PM sellio7 RT @lrnchat: Q1) When you’re learning something new, what sort of resources do you use? How do you learn about a completely new topic? #lrn…
8:38 PM sobith A0) was at the @skillsalberta today! Learnt many cool things 🎯 #lrnchat
8:39 PM sobith RT @lrnchat: Q1) When you’re learning something new, what sort of resources do you use? How do you learn about a completely new topic? #lrn…
8:39 PM write2tg What was the highlight? RT @sobith A0) was at the @skillsalberta today! Learnt many cool things 🎯 #lrnchat
8:39 PM rjpanetti Q1) Google is invaluable for getting context on any subject #lrnchat
8:39 PM SimonBlairTrain @Quinnovator Especially if gremlins mess with your pile. #JustSaying :-) #lrnchat
8:39 PM urbie #lrnchat A1 My Fav way of learning something new? Asking trainer to shhhh, get out of my way, and go for it. Bumps along the way to efficacy
8:39 PM The_NthDegree A1 Anywhere I can. People in person, virtual people, err… Google and wherever that may take me… #lrnchat
8:39 PM learningmark A1) Web for breadth, trusted friend for depth. #lrnchat
8:39 PM willconstantine Q1) I search the web for article or encode de based practice #lrnchat
8:39 PM gabriellabroady a0. Learned 1) Lotsa changes to starting middle school when boys are 6 yrs apart! 2) my eyes water when oldest tries on prom tux! #lrnchat
8:39 PM kelly_smith01 Learned that the only thing constant about change is change (see item 2 from tonight’s reading) #lrnchat
8:39 PM Quinnovator a1) the google (e.g. wikipedia, other resources found by search), the library (picking up the definitive book) #lrnchat
8:39 PM JeremyDBond A0) Jeremy, parent from CT. Learned a lot of new things this week from 5th graders’ projects in the town’s gifted/talented program. #lrnchat
8:40 PM MelMilloway A1 Try it out. Google first and foremost. Then I look up free online courses i.e. MOOCs and Youtube. #lrnchat https://t.co/8ZsJDiEhSx
8:40 PM trainersleaders Q1) When learning something new, I use all resources possible (e.g., course materials, colleagues, books, articles, videos…) #lrnchat
8:40 PM avanbarn @lrnchat: A1: Start by searching Google for different angles on the topic. #lrnchat
8:40 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat: Q1) When you’re learning something new, what sort of resources do you use? How do you learn about a completely new topic? #lrn…
8:40 PM willconstantine My sister is also participating in #lrnchat she’s a student in college.
8:40 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q1) When you’re learning something new, what sort of resources do you use? How do you learn about a completely new topic? #lrn…
8:40 PM MelMilloway I have to start saying learnt, everyone in the US says learned but we are not in the majority. #lrnchat
8:40 PM gabriellabroady RT @lrnchat: Q1) When you’re learning something new, what sort of resources do you use? How do you learn about a completely new topic? #lrn…
8:40 PM SLDoyle67 Q1) I start with the internet, then talk to people who know the topic, more reading, more talking, application #lrnchat
8:41 PM JustStormy good evening #lrnchat – better late than sorry
8:41 PM learndrops I reread some old provencal texts. Had forgotten the fun of deciphering phonetically written poetry! #lrnchat https://t.co/W0kKxnBKiQ
8:41 PM Quinnovator a1) starting with what pointed me to new thing in the first place, and its recommendations (“um, where do I find out more”?) #lrnchat
8:41 PM sobith A1) start from learning the basics, then build on #lrnchat
8:41 PM SimonBlairTrain @MelMilloway US vs UK English can get tricky. It’s a labor/labour of love. :-) #lrnchat
8:41 PM write2tg A1) Resources for learning: Google, People, Books and then try! #lrnchat
8:41 PM willconstantine Q1) She reads articles. She’s a bit of a book worm #lrnchat
8:41 PM gabriellabroady a1. Ears, Eyeballs, Internet, place to jot down notes (OneNote, for example). #lrnchat
8:41 PM JustStormy a1) i used to check out books, but now i leverage my communities (and I have many) #lrnchat
8:41 PM PatriceKiraly RT @Quinnovator: a1) starting with what pointed me to new thing in the first place, and its recommendations (“um, where do I find out more”…
8:41 PM JeremyDBond This is my new favorite thing! #lrnchat #personalgrowth #persistence https://t.co/Z31gkof5ap
8:41 PM gabriellabroady RT @SLDoyle67: Q1) I start with the internet, then talk to people who know the topic, more reading, more talking, application #lrnchat
8:41 PM MelMilloway @SimonBlairTrain I love adding the u’s there is something beautiful about colour versus color. #lrnchat
8:42 PM learningmark A1) different if curiosity-driven or need-driven
#lrnchat
8:42 PM SimpsonChar1 Trying to join a twitterchat, can someone help me with this #lrnchat
8:42 PM susangenden Susan in Michigan – happy to be here. Learned it feels good to graduate- new PhD! #Lrnchat
8:42 PM Quinnovator a1) make it up and see what feedback you get ;) #lrnchat
8:42 PM SimonBlairTrain A1: Almost always Google. Sometimes a book (if I have one around). #lrnchat
8:42 PM kelly_smith01 Q1) Look to my PLN (personal learning network) #lrnchat
8:42 PM learningmark @SimpsonChar1 yer in!
#lrnchat
8:42 PM write2tg RT @Quinnovator a1) make it up and see what feedback you get ;) #lrnchat
8:42 PM sueprendo Depending on topic, I really like to get straight in there and try it out first. #lrnchat then I’ll start asking https://t.co/MncZLFrWIe
8:42 PM trainersleaders q1) An oft-overlooked resource for learning resources: our onsite and online public #libraries #lrnchat
8:42 PM Quinnovator a1) depends on importance: does it need to be definitive, close enough, or I can just fake it! #lrnchat
8:42 PM write2tg Yes! +1 RT @trainersleaders q1) An oft-overlooked resource for learning resources: our onsite and online public #libraries #lrnchat
8:42 PM danno4krist Joining late after prereading the article, Daniel from SA #lrnchat
8:42 PM MelMilloway Sometimes I start to learn subjects through Twitter chats and research them further i.e. xAPI was one of them. #lrnchat
8:42 PM The_NthDegree funny how we often research 2 not look daft – but actually being daft is the quickest way to learn – easier to learn from not knwng #lrnchat
8:42 PM sobith A1) Internet, YouTube, online journals, books #lrnchat
8:43 PM urbie #lrnchat A1 Bactine (my old mainstay for skinned knees — hydrogen peroxide — is bad).
8:43 PM MelMilloway @susangenden Congrats, Susan! That’s huge news! #lrnchat
8:43 PM rjpanetti @MelMilloway use learnt because it confuses Americans. Also spell theater as theatre #lrnchat
8:43 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A1) Using visual aids where possible. Learn new things by iteration, chunking it down, and using real-world application #lrnchat
8:43 PM urbie #lrnchat A1 Soliciting (usually not a problem) feedback on how others perceive my performance, results.
8:43 PM learndrops A1:: Progressive searches on Google, until I isolate the key phrases and resources I need to go deeper. #lrnchat https://t.co/dRuClJozDN
8:43 PM SimonBlairTrain @MelMilloway Just don’t take it too “faur”. :-) #lrnchat
8:43 PM write2tg @trainersleaders Have often found some great stuff in libraries especially to understand job contexts before I start analysis #lrnchat
8:43 PM The_NthDegree (most overlooked resource – ask your spouse – mine definitely seems to know more than me) :) #lrnchat
8:43 PM MelMilloway @SimpsonChar1 Welcome, Charlotte! Don’t fear the chat. Everyone was new at one point. It takes getting used to. #lrnchat
8:43 PM gabriellabroady a1. I learn by listening, observing, doing…and some good ol’ fashioned research (online, talking to people, youtube, etc).#lrnchat
8:43 PM SimpsonChar1 How do I give my professor the link to the feed?@learningmark #lrnchat
8:43 PM SLDoyle67 @Quinnovator That’s what I tell SMEs I’ll do if they don’t get content to me in time #lrnchat
8:44 PM Quinnovator @danno4krist wait, there’s pre-reading? You mean this: http://t.co/ipbtxZj8ri? #lrnchat
8:44 PM learningmark @SimpsonChar1 Link? just use hashtag #lrnchat
8:44 PM MelMilloway @rjpanetti I do spell theater, theatre because our acting teacher forced it upon us! #lrnchat
8:44 PM lrnchat Q2) How do your efforts to learn something change once you have a foundational base of knowledge? #lrnchat
8:44 PM patswiney RT @lrnchat: #lrnchat tonight! Meeting *your* 5 moments of learning need. READ THIS FIRST http://t.co/276FH96nzk . See you soon!
8:44 PM learningmark RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do your efforts to learn something change once you have a foundational base of knowledge? #lrnchat
8:44 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do your efforts to learn something change once you have a foundational base of knowledge? #lrnchat
8:44 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do your efforts to learn something change once you have a foundational base of knowledge? #lrnchat
8:44 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q2) How do your efforts to learn something change once you have a foundational base of knowledge? #lrnchat
8:44 PM SLDoyle67 @Quinnovator I like your style! #lrnchat
8:44 PM kelly_smith01 Q1) Get up ride until I fall get back up – repeat #lrnchat
8:45 PM sellio7 RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do your efforts to learn something change once you have a foundational base of knowledge? #lrnchat
8:45 PM avanbarn “@Quinnovator: @danno4krist wait, there’s pre-reading? You mean this: http://t.co/QPqWN91bZ7? #lrnchat” Yes
8:45 PM rjpanetti @avanbarn slow but steady… #lrnchat
8:45 PM urbie #lrnchat A2 Unless I use it everyda, have permission to try n make it better (not a given) i get bored and move on to the next #shinyobject
8:45 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do your efforts to learn something change once you have a foundational base of knowledge? #lrnchat
8:45 PM SpellingCity What do “optic” & “scope” have in common? They are both Greek roots. http://t.co/YzNEFdOpWm #LrnChat http://t.co/tpZgzIhgbB
8:45 PM Quinnovator a2) see if there’re sessions at conferences, see if there’re books available from the library, see if anyone I know knows more #lrnchat
8:45 PM learningmark a2) focus in from broad understanding towards specific applications #lrnchat
8:45 PM jamesrolle Summer PD to transform your teaching. The tech tools AND the whys and wherefores.
http://t.co/NYw5vLoJKZ #lrnchat #k12 #web20
8:45 PM SimpsonChar1 I am so new to this. Finishing my masters and this is a requirement. She said she wants the link to the feed
#lrnchat@learningmark
8:46 PM MelMilloway A2 I feel a bit more daring once I know a little on a subject. I will play around a lot more. #lrnchat #fearless https://t.co/SMbEFbfJr3
8:46 PM SimonBlairTrain @MelMilloway @rjpanetti Phase 2: using “s” in words like “dramatise”, “specialise” and “organisation”. #lrnchat
8:46 PM sueprendo #lrnchat once you get the base the learning becomes easier as you have a mental Map to link new information too https://t.co/UC61J2h9xO
8:46 PM write2tg A2) I move from generic to specific. Once I have a base of understanding, it is easier to ask more intelligent questions #lrnchat
8:46 PM SLDoyle67 Q2) That’s when I want to know, “What if I try…” “What happens when..” #lrnchat
8:46 PM Quinnovator a2) assuming I’m motivated enough to learn more: some benefit intellectually, financially, or… #lrnchat
8:46 PM trainersleaders q2) How my efforts to learn something change once I have foundational base of knowledge: more focused explorations, more hands-on #lrnchat
8:46 PM patswiney @lrnchat Personally I use all types of media to research and encompass all aspects of the topic. How will it affect me or others? #lrnchat
8:46 PM avanbarn #lrnchat: A2: I move to more specific sources – go from broad to narrow.
8:46 PM learndrops A2: Once there is structure, it is easier to fill in the gaps. Time to go deep. #lrnchat https://t.co/MWUHGfih6c
8:46 PM MelMilloway @SimonBlairTrain @rjpanetti That is one thing I do not do, yet…! #lrnchat
8:46 PM write2tg Aha! RT @MelMilloway A2 I feel a bit more daring once I know a little on a subject. I will play around a lot more. #lrnchat
8:46 PM The_NthDegree A2 This is the vital part. We often stop learning once gathered ‘knowledge’ – this should be very start – need to interact next #lrnchat
8:46 PM urbie #lrnchat A2 Lately for the stuff i learn via #edcamp I try and figure out how to share with others. #tlap helps with that.
8:46 PM gabriellabroady RT @write2tg: RT @lrnchat Q2) How do your efforts to learn something change once you have a foundational base of knowledge? #lrnchat
8:47 PM MelMilloway @susangenden Yes! These chats have changed my life. I started using Twitter in Oct. I can see a huge difference. #lrnchat
8:47 PM The_NthDegree @The_NthDegree and try and climb higher levels by using that little bit of knowledge #lrnchat
8:47 PM avanbarn #lrnchat A2: I start to seek out ‘names’, SMEs, authors – look through academic databases.
8:47 PM patswiney @JeremyDBond I think a child’s perspective or someone not used to the “norm” is a great way to look at a new topic. #lrnchat
8:47 PM Quinnovator a2) blog about it and/or diagram it; see if I understand it! #lrnchat
8:47 PM willconstantine Q2) if I can I’ll try to apply it #lrnchat
8:47 PM Quinnovator RT @willconstantine: Q2) if I can I’ll try to apply it #lrnchat
8:47 PM MelMilloway @SLDoyle67 I do that too! You sort of feel like a mad scientist. #lrnchat
8:47 PM JustStormy So informal learning MT @SimpsonChar1:.Finishing my masters. This is a requirement. She wants the link to the feed
#lrnchat@learningmark
8:47 PM SimonBlairTrain @MelMilloway @rjpanetti I’ll send Hugh Laurie around. He can be very convincing. :-) #lrnchat
8:47 PM audioswhite Hi all – hopping in a little late a1) ask some one to show me, can be PLN or forum or colleague coworker #lrnchat
8:47 PM danno4krist A1 I guess Google is my first stop! And sometimes, I may refine it with the word image, pdf or video! #lrnchat https://t.co/EMxBSlXFix
8:48 PM RiderSchoolofEd RT @lrnchat: Q1) When you’re learning something new, what sort of resources do you use? How do you learn about a completely new topic? #lrn…
8:48 PM sobith A2) if it is for personal interest, curiosity must drive it. If for work, how easily can I learn the rest #lrnchat
8:48 PM MadBlackWoman RT @SpellingCity: What do “optic” & “scope” have in common? They are both Greek roots. http://t.co/YzNEFdOpWm #LrnChat http://t.co/tpZgzIhg…
8:48 PM write2tg A2) I need to understand the concepts more deeply – whatever it takes: writing, talking, trying, sharing, showing #lrnchat
8:48 PM MelMilloway @SimonBlairTrain @rjpanetti The man from HOUSE!? #lrnchat
8:48 PM JustStormy RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do your efforts to learn something change once you have a foundational base of knowledge? #lrnchat
8:48 PM gabriellabroady a2. Go to “apply” mode; am a trial & error girl. If I’m developing learning, I will get skeleton knowledge, fill in gaps w stories #lrnchat
8:48 PM patswiney @The_NthDegree I agree, we want to research and be an expert on many subjects but attention and thirst for a topic is how we learn #lrnchat
8:48 PM SimpsonChar1 Starting a weebly in the fall. Will try to incorporate new learning from twitter #lrnchat
8:48 PM Quinnovator a1) depends on where the interest came from: a person? Ask. A ‘pointer’? Search. #lrnchat
8:48 PM gabriellabroady RT @avanbarn: #lrnchat: A2: I move to more specific sources – go from broad to narrow.
8:49 PM JustStormy a2) Initially, it depends on time #lrnchat Lately though, I’ve had faculty exploring things and that kind of buys me some time.
8:49 PM danno4krist A1 if Google doesn’t seem to know, I may consider asking someone I know may know about that subject #lrnchat https://t.co/EMxBSlXFix
8:49 PM sueprendo #lrnchat q2 I generally tend to get excited once I pass the initial hump… Ah ha moments appear! Things click easier.
8:49 PM SimonBlairTrain @MelMilloway @rjpanetti Yup. He’s a Brit. Was in Blackadder with Rowan Atkinson (aka Mr Bean). #lrnchat
8:49 PM rjpanetti @SimonBlairTrain @MelMilloway I’ll have to consult my secatree about my shedule…#lrnchat
8:49 PM The_NthDegree RT @patswiney: @The_NthDegree I agree, we want to research and be an expert on many subjects but attention and thirst for a topic is how we…
8:49 PM SLDoyle67 @MelMilloway Those who know me would agree with the “mad” part (in a good way!) #lrnchat
8:49 PM write2tg RT @sueprendo #lrnchat q2 I generally tend to get excited once I pass the initial hump… Ah ha moments appear! Things click easier.
8:49 PM SimonBlairTrain Yes! If I can figure out the mechanics/rules, it sticks. #lrnchat https://t.co/ywidLeO5rX
8:49 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A2) Depends on the something. If conceptual, my learning efforts gravitate towards tangential and specific extension #lrnchat
8:50 PM learndrops Yes, application is a key part of discovery and mastery. @The_NthDegree #lrnchat https://t.co/9covh6cCcT
8:50 PM JustStormy a2) sometimes, I’d like to construct knowledge as a group to create that base #lrnchat
8:50 PM SLDoyle67 Q2) Try to explain what you’ve learned to someone else. See what gaps are still missing #lrnchat
8:50 PM JeremyDBond A2) Once you have a foundation of #knowledge, you begin to see where the mainstream understanding is wrong. You work to change it. #lrnchat
8:50 PM MelMilloway @SLDoyle67 I feel that way. I figure something out and keep adding on to it. Esp. with technology and coding. #lrnchat
8:50 PM write2tg Yes that’s a good one! RT @SLDoyle67 Q2) Try to explain what you’ve learned to someone else. See what gaps are still missing #lrnchat
8:50 PM The_NthDegree quickest way to learn is to dive in and get it wrong – is that the same as the best? maybe/maybe not, but it’s often what we do #lrnchat
8:51 PM cthomasknight A2. It moves from desperation back to applying my established process of objectives and alignment. #continuousimprovement #lrnchat
8:51 PM sobith RT @SLDoyle67: Q2) Try to explain what you’ve learned to someone else. See what gaps are still missing #lrnchat
8:51 PM sueprendo RT @SLDoyle67: Q2) Try to explain what you’ve learned to someone else. See what gaps are still missing #lrnchat
8:51 PM learningmark a2) learn practice apply fail repeat #lrnchat
8:51 PM kelly_smith01 RT @write2tg: Yes that’s a good one! RT @SLDoyle67 Q2) Try to explain what you’ve learned to someone else. See what gaps are still missing …
8:51 PM lrnchat Q3) How do you learn on-the-job or in the task? What does that look like? #lrnchat
8:51 PM learningmark RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you learn on-the-job or in the task? What does that look like? #lrnchat
8:51 PM MelMilloway I approach learning/trying new things by reminding myself I am not going to blow anything up. I try to throw caution to the wind. #lrnchat
8:51 PM learndrops Yes, a great way to really examine understanding! @SLDoyle67 #lrnchat https://t.co/fhJrajwRJZ
8:51 PM avanbarn A2: I find that I have to draw my understanding to see if I’m clear on things…and where gaps are. #lrnchat
8:51 PM willconstantine What happens too is if you have your own understanding of what you’re learning it encodes better #lrnchat
8:51 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you learn on-the-job or in the task? What does that look like? #lrnchat
8:51 PM JohnLacey RT @trainersleaders: Succinct! RT @rjpanetti This week i learned how to become an expert… #lrnchat http://t.co/4IwJHi2h9f
8:51 PM write2tg A2) To know if I know enough, I apply what I know. When I get stuck, I know exactly what I don’t know! #toomanyknows #lrnchat
8:51 PM The_NthDegree @learningmark yes but not so formal – you don’t have to go round the full loop eh? #evolve #lrnchat
8:51 PM trainersleaders How to move past foundational stage of learning something new: RT @learningmark a2) learn practice apply fail repeat #lrnchat
8:51 PM susangenden A2) That’s when application / experience / problem solving really has impact #Lrnchat
8:51 PM Quinnovator yes, but less and smaller #lrnchat https://t.co/At9aLZLji2
8:52 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you learn on-the-job or in the task? What does that look like? #lrnchat
8:52 PM JustStormy RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you learn on-the-job or in the task? What does that look like? #lrnchat
8:52 PM avanbarn A2: Have I also mentioned that I talk out loud to myself to see if I make sense in my explanation? #lrnchat
8:52 PM cthomasknight RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you learn on-the-job or in the task? What does that look like? #lrnchat
8:52 PM willconstantine @The_NthDegree I think it’s a great way to start. I think the issue is procrastination. #lrnchat
8:52 PM patswiney @willconstantine Applying it is great for kinesthetic learners who are more hands on. applying helps us as learn to remember more #lrnchat
8:52 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you learn on-the-job or in the task? What does that look like? #lrnchat
8:52 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you learn on-the-job or in the task? What does that look like? #lrnchat
8:52 PM The_NthDegree A3 on the job is often flipped – only by doing to we understand where our shortfalls know – then seek out knowledge and practise #lrnchat
8:52 PM kelly_smith01 Q2) Write a performance-based test for yourself. #lrnchat
8:52 PM SimonBlairTrain @MelMilloway You’ll never make the bomb squad with that attitude. :-) #lrnchat
8:52 PM urbie #lrnchat A3 Shock and awe. Usually the OJT comes fast/furious. Once feeling comes back I try a little, show a little.
8:53 PM sueprendo #lrnchat Google, ask, command and T, play around, try it out, walk if I get frustrated and come back fresh https://t.co/HO1bK1blmg
8:53 PM willconstantine Q3) lots of post it notes for quick jots #lrnchat
8:53 PM SLDoyle67 Q3) I try to observe people who know the job, try it myself, and ask questions #lrnchat
8:53 PM MelMilloway A3 Pay close attention to detail. I did this in Adobe Connect today. Go off what you already know. #lrnchat https://t.co/rHwnUZxxib
8:53 PM danno4krist Yeah a good way to check understanding! #lrnchat https://t.co/183rVZMOY5
8:53 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you learn on-the-job or in the task? What does that look like? #lrnchat
8:53 PM trainersleaders q3) To learn on-the-job/in the task, I focus on low-hanging fruit & an effort that produces greatest payoff first #lrnchat
8:53 PM theASIDEblog Learning something new makes you hungry where you want more to feed your appetite. #lrnchat
8:53 PM sobith @The_NthDegree Agree. Creating a safe to fail environment is good! #lrnchat
8:53 PM avanbarn A3: On the job, I tend to seek out knowledgeable people. Different approach than when topic is simply of interest to me. #lrnchat
8:53 PM sueprendo RT @write2tg: A2) To know if I know enough, I apply what I know. When I get stuck, I know exactly what I don’t know! #toomanyknows #lrnchat
8:53 PM learndrops A3: Tend to jump in, try things, evaluate results. When creating training, provide job aids, peer network. #lrnchat https://t.co/RK1fo1ffD0
8:53 PM sobith RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you learn on-the-job or in the task? What does that look like? #lrnchat
8:53 PM MelMilloway @SimonBlairTrain LOL I only advise it under circumstances that no one gets injured. #lrnchat
8:53 PM trainersleaders RT @theASIDEblog Learning something new makes you hungry where you want more to feed your appetite. #lrnchat
8:53 PM Quinnovator @learningmark “The road to wisdom? Well, it’s plain
and simple to express:
Err
and err
and err again
but less
and less
and less.” #lrnchat
8:53 PM write2tg A3) Learning on the job happens with job shadowing, mentoring, formal training, social learning, informal learning #lrnchat
8:54 PM cthomasknight A3. Looks like overtime. Hope for a mentor or patient person to ask q’s. Less efficient but not lower quality #lrnchat
8:54 PM trainersleaders Fundamental! RT @danno4krist Yeah a good way to check understanding! #lrnchat https://t.co/mxj5r2uf0G
8:54 PM RiderSchoolofEd Q3: Learning on the job requires observation, analysis, and then trial and error. #lrnchat
8:54 PM theASIDEblog Learning something new depends on what type of learner you are, and your level of engagement. #lrnchat
8:54 PM rjpanetti Q2) depends on the situation. often if I have the foundation that’s it. How often can you really go deep? #lrnchat https://t.co/HbMlkfttcp
8:54 PM gabriellabroady RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you learn on-the-job or in the task? What does that look like? #lrnchat
8:54 PM Quinnovator a3) take on tasks that require learning #lrnchat
8:54 PM JeremyDBond A3) Learning on-the-job looks like doing. To others it may look like already knowing. So it’s important to insist on space to grow. #lrnchat
8:54 PM JaneBozarth Sorry, missing #lrnchat for “Pippin”. Y’all having fun?
8:54 PM learningmark @Quinnovator Inverse relationship? Failure diminishes as learning increases? #lrnchat
8:54 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A3) My pref is to immediately pursue the ‘bigger picture’ relevance, then ‘just do it’, slowly but surely #lrnchat
8:54 PM kelly_smith01 RT @Quinnovator: @learningmark “The road to wisdom? Well, it’s plain
and simple to express:
Err
and err
and err again
but less
and less
an…
8:55 PM urbie #lrnchat A3 I like trying to make things better. Learning by tinkering. I think I got it from my Uncle Andrew, a C47 loadmaster during WW2.
8:55 PM learndrops @learningmark @Quinnovator :) When exploring, lots of ever decreasing “err”! #lrnchat https://t.co/MsYjkdsDgo
8:55 PM theASIDEblog We learn on the job from each other and from a collaborative network of colleagues. #lrnchat
8:55 PM danno4krist A2 I guess it does depend on how critical it is for my work or current ‘project’… If it is, I keep at it! #lrnchat https://t.co/FFXAkOwo9C
8:55 PM urbie RT @Quinnovator: @learningmark “The road to wisdom? Well, it’s plain
and simple to express:
Err
and err
and err again
but less
and less
an…
8:55 PM write2tg RT @theASIDEblog We learn on the job from each other and from a collaborative network of colleagues. #lrnchat
8:55 PM audioswhite A3 for my job it’s right to search. Then post q via PLN. Then help/support forums (shld be first but other 2 get better results) #lrnchat
8:55 PM Quinnovator @learningmark just quoting Piet Hein, seemed appropriate. Fail less and less on any 1 topic, but keep failing I think #lrnchat
8:55 PM gabriellabroady a3. Observe, Ask, Do. Adjust, Ask, Do. Also fan of the “top 10 things I need to know” to get started. #lrnchat
8:55 PM trainersleaders Eating apples instead of polishing them here in #lrnchat??? RT @JaneBozarth Sorry, missing #lrnchat for “Pippin”. Y’all having fun?
8:55 PM rjpanetti @JaneBozarth miss your wit #lrnchat
8:55 PM SimonBlairTrain With healthy doses of “d’oh!” and “oops” #lrnchat https://t.co/BukXyXmjlc
8:55 PM willconstantine Q3) I also try to add some method to how I keep track of the learning bites #lrnchat
8:55 PM learningmark @urbie Successive approximation? #lrnchat
8:55 PM gabriellabroady RT @JeremyDBond: A3) Learning on-the-job looks like doing. To others it may look like already knowing. So it’s important to insist on space…
8:55 PM JeremyDBond @write2tg Just enough “know”s. I know exactly what you mean! #lrnchat
8:56 PM write2tg How do you do that Will? RT @willconstantine Q3) I also try to add some method to how I keep track of the learning bites #lrnchat
8:56 PM JustStormy Learning on the job requires direct input from experts @btopro and @_mike_collins showing me how it (#elmsln) works #lrnchat
8:56 PM sobith RT @avanbarn: A3: On the job, I tend to seek out knowledgeable people. Different approach than when topic is simply of interest to me. #lrn…
8:56 PM trainersleaders Yes; strongly suggest we contact Interpol to report that it’s missing: RT @rjpanetti @JaneBozarth miss your wit #lrnchat
8:56 PM patswiney Q3) Learning on the job is in actual production phase. Not training or scenario. Where you make mistake and you learn from them #lrnchat
8:56 PM learndrops Good point. #lrnchat https://t.co/XN2dccsWO1
8:56 PM urbie @learningmark #lrnchat Yes! It’s how I learned design and problem solving at DeVry back in the 70s. Served me well lo these many years.
8:56 PM MelMilloway I feel like when we are learning we have a lot of fears. We have to let go of them and just try without that fear. #lrnchat
8:56 PM Quinnovator a3) work out loud #showyourwork #lrnchat
8:56 PM kelly_smith01 Q3) On the job as long as failure does not have catastrophic impact to self, system, others, ecology #lrnchat
8:57 PM theASIDEblog So many new things, so little time! We need each other to help master the pervasive amount of NEW. #lrnchat
8:57 PM cthomasknight A3 Learning on the job looks like growth mindset and perseverance. What is important is applying what you’ve learned on the fly #lrnchat
8:57 PM write2tg RT @avanbarn: A3: On the job, I tend to seek out knowledgeable people. Different approach than when topic is simply of interest to me. #lrn…
8:57 PM egmathews A1 What is being learned dictates resources. If new topic, start w/ Google, get context, dig for experts. #lrnchat https://t.co/k9wNe3G7Dc
8:57 PM The_NthDegree @sobith Let’s have an environment where it’s okay to learn rather than just safe to fail – same thing, different slant I guess #lrnchat
8:57 PM avanbarn @JaneBozarth: Sorry, missing #lrnchat for “Pippin”. Y’all having fun?” So far, so good!
8:57 PM gabriellabroady RT @Quinnovator: a3) work out loud #showyourwork #lrnchat
8:57 PM danno4krist A3 Can be quite tricky… Mistakes, but I guess it sinks in better since its in practical context already #lrnchat https://t.co/P1mK0CWj2n
8:57 PM write2tg RT @JeremyDBond: A3) Learning on-the-job looks like doing. To others it may look like already knowing. So it’s important to insist on space…
8:57 PM Dan_Jacques_LD A3 Jump in at the deep end takes a lot of effort to stay above water at first but over time you develop your own technique #lrnchat
8:57 PM kelly_smith01 RT @Quinnovator: a3) work out loud #showyourwork #lrnchat
8:58 PM urbie #lrnchat A3 This is true even when things go bad I don’t like to kvetch. I’m a kluge’r from way back.
8:58 PM sueprendo Learning on-the-job for me as a freelancer means I have to draw on the resources I’ve built up, generally online #lrnchat
8:58 PM patswiney @SLDoyle67 I like observing others and the asking questions. Helps to get another perspective and see why something is. #lrnchat
8:58 PM learningmark a3) use resources – job aids, peers, PLN – to overcome challenges as they happen #lrnchat
8:58 PM The_NthDegree @willconstantine yup easiest doesn’t necessarily equal best (nor isthe converse true) – environment that embraces lrning though :) #lrnchat
8:58 PM theASIDEblog We want our students to jump in to learn and forget risk. We try to do the same by practicing what we preach. #lrnchat
8:58 PM trainersleaders Sounds like great advice I found while reading a book by someone named Clark Quinn: RT @Quinnovator a3) work out loud #showyourwork #lrnchat
8:58 PM write2tg A3) The more I am able to do (different work, different people), the more I learn on the job. #learningbydoing #lrnchat
8:59 PM trainersleaders Yes! RT @theASIDEblog We want our students to jump in to learn and forget risk. We try to do the same by practicing what we preach. #lrnchat
8:59 PM learndrops Yes. Wiki. Journal. Creating a personal (or group) reference. @willconstantine #lrnchat https://t.co/3FTMmGygEB
8:59 PM gabriellabroady RT @sueprendo: Learning on-the-job for me as a freelancer means I have to draw on the resources I’ve built up, generally online #lrnchat
8:59 PM danno4krist Yeah! Effect of failure must be considered… But whoever expected me to learn on the job sold check that! #lrnchat https://t.co/ol1rCN3fct
8:59 PM sobith RT @trainersleaders: Yes! RT @theASIDEblog We want our students to jump in to learn and forget risk. We try to do the same by practicing wh…
8:59 PM SimonBlairTrain “Failing with purpose” as opposed to just “failing”. #lrnchat https://t.co/2u7UIxFGrA
9:00 PM MelMilloway Learning is also about trying different things/ways of doing things. We can find more efficient routes that way too. #lrnchat
9:00 PM patswiney @theASIDEblog forgetting risk is key. The fear of failing can hold us back from our potential and our learning of a topic #lrnchat
9:00 PM patswiney RT @theASIDEblog: We want our students to jump in to learn and forget risk. We try to do the same by practicing what we preach. #lrnchat
9:00 PM Quinnovator a3) celebrating the lesson learned #lrnchat
9:00 PM learningmark a3) Fail fast. Fix. Do again. #lrnchat
9:00 PM write2tg A3) I learn by being a sponge: observe and absorb – mirror my mentors and people I admire and respect #lrnchat
9:00 PM SimonBlairTrain A3: Depending on the consequences, sometimes by trial and error. #lrnchat
9:00 PM danno4krist Learning to do this! The fear of the public has kept ‘stuff’ in for quite some time… #lrnchat https://t.co/zHauXQO6CD
9:00 PM theASIDEblog RT @write2tg: RT @theASIDEblog We learn on the job from each other and from a collaborative network of colleagues. #lrnchat
9:01 PM sueprendo #lrnchat it’s also wise to know when to go for it and take a risk and when to run something by someone else
9:01 PM theASIDEblog RT @patswiney: @theASIDEblog forgetting risk is key. The fear of failing can hold us back from our potential and our learning of a topic #l…
9:01 PM egmathews A2 After preliminary research, I consider how further research can benefit me. Reflect on new info b4 con’t #lrnchat https://t.co/r0wd1VnOaL
9:01 PM write2tg Reflection is the way to learn but we often miss the point RT @Quinnovator a3) celebrating the lesson learned #lrnchat
9:02 PM plearnchat Build communities of practice – 5Ws of PL eCourse http://t.co/ndjwP5bh97 #MEMSPAchat #mschat #lrnchat ##glhsedchat http://t.co/sxNNAQnJc2
9:02 PM write2tg RT @MelMilloway: Learning is also about trying different things/ways of doing things. We can find more efficient routes that way too. #lrnc…
9:02 PM MelMilloway You don’t have to follow a guide/tutorial to learn. You can find your own route, that may be better, and change that guide/tutorial.#lrnchat
9:02 PM The_NthDegree Like it – the stylish way to fail :) #lrnchat https://t.co/xiViy2vIgt
9:02 PM chriscola RT @MelMilloway: Learning is also about trying different things/ways of doing things. We can find more efficient routes that way too. #lrnc…
9:02 PM trainersleaders RT @write2tg A3) I learn by being a sponge: observe and absorb – mirror my mentors and people I admire and respect #lrnchat
9:02 PM JeremyNegrey @lrnchat A1) I am a fact collector, so when I need to learn something new, I try to read as much about it as I can first. #lrnchat
9:02 PM JaneBozarth RT @jsuzcampos: #lrnchat tonight talking about this one of my favorite topics http://t.co/0iT5pmDSjk JOIN US!
9:02 PM avanbarn A3: Do, reflect. Do, reflect. #lrnchat
9:03 PM Quinnovator a3) family tradition: when you stumble, say “ta-da”; pretend like you did it on purpose ;) #lrnchat
9:03 PM lrnchat Q4) Much learning happens when we encounter exceptions to the norm. What resources help you learn during problem-solving? #lrnchat
9:03 PM Kimacus @The_NthDegree And the mindset of “I failed” rather than “I am a failure” #lrnchat
9:03 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q4) Much learning happens when we encounter exceptions to the norm. What resources help you learn during problem-solving? #lrn…
9:03 PM learndrops Agree. Need to give yourself the opportunity to “become” & keep at it until you succeed. @cthomasknight #lrnchat https://t.co/b8uy5kFlOA
9:03 PM JustStormy RT @lrnchat: Q4) Much learning happens when we encounter exceptions to the norm. What resources help you learn during problem-solving? #lrn…
9:03 PM The_NthDegree For those that learn like a sponge, don’t you find it has too many holes in it? ;) I really don’t- sponges can’t hold that much wtr #lrnchat
9:03 PM theASIDEblog @SimonBlairTrain Yes, we need “positive failure.” #lrnchat
9:03 PM JeremyNegrey @lrnchat A2) once I have solid base knowledge, I like to dive in- get hands on, ask questions, try to identify exceptions. #lrnchat
9:03 PM SimonBlairTrain @Quinnovator What a great tradition! I need to start doing that. #lrnchat
9:04 PM Quinnovator @avanbarn a motto I had was “do, review, refine” (with an implicit: repeat) #lrnchat
9:04 PM write2tg MT @lrnchat Q4) Much learning happens when we encounter exceptions to the norm. What resources help you during problem-solving? #lrnchat
9:04 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q4) Much learning happens when we encounter exceptions to the norm. What resources help you learn during problem-solving? #lrn…
9:04 PM kelly_smith01 Q3) Recognizing failure or where, when failure occurred. #lrnchat
9:04 PM gabriellabroady RT @lrnchat: Q4) Much learning happens when we encounter exceptions to the norm. What resources help you learn during problem-solving? #lrn…
9:04 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q4) Much learning happens when we encounter exceptions to the norm. What resources help you learn during problem-solving? #lrn…
9:04 PM MelMilloway A4 Keyword searches help me if I find an exception that others may have run into. #lrnchat https://t.co/s8V62KjVAx
9:04 PM patswiney @The_NthDegree @sobith There is definitely a difference but we need to promote growth from failing. Not a culture of doing wrong #lrnchat
9:04 PM Quinnovator RT @Kimacus: @The_NthDegree And the mindset of “I failed” rather than “I am a failure” #lrnchat
9:04 PM SLDoyle67 Q4) Peers, SMEs, PLN…trial and error #lrnchat
9:04 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q4) Much learning happens when we encounter exceptions to the norm. What resources help you learn during problem-solving? #lrn…
9:04 PM danno4krist @MelMilloway I think its bcos learning has som uncertainty in it… With dat usually comes fear. Learning w/o fear builds ova time #lrnchat
9:04 PM cthomasknight RT @lrnchat: Q4) Much learning happens when we encounter exceptions to the norm. What resources help you learn during problem-solving? #lrn…
9:04 PM sueprendo #lrnchat trying and applying builds confidence in ability which increases motivation and passion
9:04 PM The_NthDegree A4 We only encounter exceptions to the norm because we’re obsessed with knowledge as a thing – this limits our ability to solve… #lrnchat
9:05 PM trainersleaders Sometimes we must dive into deep end to learn how to swim: MT @MelMilloway don’t need tutorial to learn…find your own route #lrnchat
9:05 PM SLDoyle67 RT @lrnchat: Q4) Much learning happens when we encounter exceptions to the norm. What resources help you learn during problem-solving? #lrn…
9:05 PM sobith RT @lrnchat: Q4) Much learning happens when we encounter exceptions to the norm. What resources help you learn during problem-solving? #lrn…
9:05 PM urbie #lrnchat A4 In the 21st Century? Google, YouTube, #EdCamp, #CUE & that segment of world on twitter into L&D.. resources that help me learn.
9:05 PM Quinnovator a4) feedback: from the world, peers, stakeholders, innocent (or not so) bystanders, etc #lrnchat
9:05 PM gabriellabroady a4. If technical: online performance support “things to try.” If people-oriented, contact mentor or other trusted resource. #lrnchat
9:05 PM patswiney @sueprendo How do we find that balance though? Is this natural intuition or is it a skill we can improve upon? #lrnchat
9:05 PM MelMilloway @trainersleaders Yes! Sometimes you just need to be thrown in without a life preserver! #lrnchat
9:05 PM The_NthDegree @Kimacus @The_NthDegree yeah – like coaching – focus on behaviours and outcomes not the individual #lrnchat
9:05 PM write2tg A4) Real learning happens when there is an exception to the norm. I learn more when my underlying assumptions are wrong #lrnchat
9:06 PM rjpanetti Q4) this is insightful about learning from exceptions. So much can be learned from unexpected consequences #lrnchat
9:06 PM trainersleaders q4) One huge resource that helps me learn during problem-solving is plenty of time for reflection #lrnchat
9:06 PM SLDoyle67 Q4) Being an exception to the norm in many ways, I just be myself ;) #lrnchat
9:06 PM sueprendo #lrnchat the resources can be unlimited, it’s also a question of knowing where to look and checking your attitude. https://t.co/UmSIG9Oqjm
9:06 PM gabriellabroady RT @Quinnovator: a4) feedback: from the world, peers, stakeholders, innocent (or not so) bystanders, etc #lrnchat
9:06 PM Quinnovator a4) data, models, folks with complementary skills #lrnchat
9:06 PM write2tg RT @rjpanetti Q4) this is insightful about learning from exceptions. So much can be learned from unexpected consequences #lrnchat
9:06 PM Dan_Jacques_LD A4 People you work with and your work effects feedback and bouncing ideas help guide you through the exceptions to the norm #lrnchat
9:06 PM Quinnovator a4) questions #lrnchat
9:06 PM write2tg A4) I think we learn when expectations fail. So I am glad they do. #lrnchat
9:06 PM danno4krist A4 Yeah much learning… Find original learning material or just go back to Google… Image, pdf, video #lrnchat https://t.co/ghiugQ8LJ4
9:06 PM learndrops A4: Ask. Search. Then scientific method: experimenting until you figure out how something really works. #lrnchat https://t.co/C9fZ4u6t0M
9:07 PM trainersleaders q4) Another huge resource that helps me learn during problem-solving is–as others have noted here–willingness to initially fail #lrnchat
9:07 PM willconstantine Q4) definitely reaching out to others for help #lrnchat
9:07 PM learningmark a4) problems arise in practice, challenge current understanding, cause us to dig in + learn to overcome #lrnchat
9:07 PM The_NthDegree @sobith @SimonBlairTrain But everybody wants to improve and learn? Failure is part of the journey-you can’t learn without learning #lrnchat
9:07 PM patswiney @JeremyNegrey @lrnchat Have you ever been weighed down by a lot of facts in the beginning? I like this approach and am curious #lrnchat
9:07 PM SimpsonChar1 New learning can be scary and frustrating to students-caution needs to be taken #lrnchat
9:07 PM write2tg A4) To learn and problem-solve, I talk to others who have been there, done that. I call for help! #lrnchat
9:07 PM MelMilloway Maybe it’s not about giving people their learning. Maybe it’s about teaching people how to own their learning successfully. #lrnchat
9:07 PM rjpanetti Q4) you guys read Learning Fast and Slow? Engaging system 2 is when the learning happens #lrnchat
9:07 PM Quinnovator a4) data to look for patterns, models to map to potential solutions, people with complementary skills to provide new perspective #lrnchat
9:07 PM trainersleaders MT @write2tg Real learning happens when there is an exception to the norm. I learn more when my underlying assumptions are wrong #lrnchat
9:07 PM Dan_Jacques_LD A4 Good old Google & Twitter look for people who have come across the same exceptions to the norm #lrnchat
9:07 PM The_NthDegree @patswiney @sobith exactly – well said – ‘promote growth from failing’ not promote failing ‘cos it’s easy :) #lrnchat
9:07 PM Quinnovator RT @rjpanetti: Q4) you guys read Learning Fast and Slow? Engaging system 2 is when the learning happens #lrnchat
9:08 PM danno4krist @MelMilloway I agree Melissa, keyword search is a good way to find what I’m looking for quicker #lrnchat
9:08 PM jadekaz @SimonBlairTrain @The_NthDegree @sobith My orchestra teacher always said to make mistakes as loud as possible. That’s style #lrnchat
9:08 PM audioswhite RT @urbie: #lrnchat A4 In the 21st Century? Google, YouTube, #EdCamp, #CUE & that segment of world on twitter into L&D.. resources that hel…
9:08 PM write2tg RT @Quinnovator RT @rjpanetti: Q4) you guys read Learning Fast and Slow? Engaging system 2 is when the learning happens #lrnchat
9:08 PM WorkBrightNZ @lrnchat A1) Reading articles, then googling other articles on same subject. And mostly seeing examples #lrnchat
9:08 PM MelMilloway @danno4krist That’s what I do. I’m trying to think of everything I do when I am learning something new & running into difficuluties #lrnchat
9:08 PM cthomasknight A4 Ask strategic &essential q’s in order to determine need without projecting incompetence. Don’t forget audience! Who, what, etc #lrnchat
9:09 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A4) Using the age old method of “why?” and drawing on collective talent & wisdom. #lrnchat
9:09 PM Quinnovator a4) reflection #lrnchat
9:09 PM write2tg RT @trainersleaders: q4) Another huge resource that helps me learn during problem-solving is–as others have noted here–willingness to ini…
9:09 PM The_NthDegree @jadekaz @SimonBlairTrain @sobith I’d jump on that bandwagon (sorry) – but yes – work& fail out loud as long as the aim is learning #lrnchat
9:09 PM JaneBozarth Woman in ladies’ room has broken heel of shoe. Attendant called for duct tape. #custserv #South #lrnchat
9:09 PM Quinnovator RT @MrKMaston: @lrnchat A4) Using the age old method of “why?” and drawing on collective talent & wisdom. #lrnchat
9:09 PM urbie #lrnchat A4 Oh, and the sum total of 50+ years of life/work experience. Fun times repurposing old know-how.
9:09 PM JustStormy a4) iteration with the community and collaboration. Love it when you have a support net #lrnchat
9:09 PM danno4krist @trainersleaders just wondering if there’s usually that time for reflection in the midst of problems 😞 #lrnchat
9:09 PM sobith RT @jadekaz: @SimonBlairTrain @The_NthDegree @sobith My orchestra teacher always said to make mistakes as loud as possible. That’s style #l…
9:10 PM SimonBlairTrain @JaneBozarth Duct tape can fix just about anything! #lrnchat
9:10 PM jsuzcampos RT @lrnchat: Q4) Much learning happens when we encounter exceptions to the norm. What resources help you learn during problem-solving? #lrn…
9:10 PM write2tg No reflection, no learning @danno4krist @trainersleaders #lrnchat
9:10 PM SLDoyle67 @JaneBozarth I love the “Squirrel!” moments in our chats :) #lrnchat
9:10 PM WorkBrightNZ @lrnchat A2) I still like to see more examples, other ways to use it, and experiment with it myself, applying it to real situations #lrnchat
9:10 PM The_NthDegree @SimonBlairTrain @JaneBozarth I’m not sure there’s much that can’t be fixed with a good attitude :) #lrnchat
9:10 PM willconstantine Alright peeps I’m out #lrnchat
9:10 PM jsuzcampos Hi all, dropping in late … just getting home from a long busy day. #lrnchat
9:10 PM avanbarn @JaneBozarth: Woman in ladies’ room has broken heel of shoe. Attendant called for duct tape. #lrnchat” On-the-job problem-solving!
9:10 PM JeremyDBond .@The_NthDegree @sobith If you get it right, you know you’ve learned something. You also learn something when you get it “wrong.” #lrnchat
9:11 PM learningmark A4) problem solving in work context has less margin for error, higher consequences for failure. #lrnchat
9:11 PM lrnchat Q5) When situations change, existing habits and skills may become outdated. How do you break habits so you can apply new skills? #lrnchat
9:11 PM learningmark RT @lrnchat: Q5) When situations change, existing habits and skills may become outdated. How do you break habits so you can apply new skill…
9:11 PM The_NthDegree @avanbarn @JaneBozarth to all those that said read a book – how would that work in a customer service environment?? ;) #lrnchat
9:11 PM kelly_smith01 RT @willconstantine: Q4) definitely reaching out to others for help #lrnchat
9:11 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q5) When situations change, existing habits and skills may become outdated. How do you break habits so you can apply new skill…
9:11 PM learndrops Yes, with unknowns, have to explore & be willing for some attempts to not work. Innovate. @trainersleaders #lrnchat https://t.co/yv9pzbW4jH
9:11 PM willconstantine @write2tg some way that I can retrieve the Info later. Like an Evernote notebook or something #lrnchat
9:12 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat: Q5) When situations change, existing habits and skills may become outdated. How do you break habits… #lrnchat
9:12 PM kelly_smith01 RT @JustStormy: a4) iteration with the community and collaboration. Love it when you have a support net #lrnchat
9:12 PM SLDoyle67 RT @lrnchat: Q5) When situations change, existing habits and skills may become outdated. How do you break habits so you can apply new skill…
9:12 PM The_NthDegree A5 Don’t try and store knowledge. Recognize everything is relative and have a great attitude above all else #lrnchat
9:12 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q5) When situations change, existing habits and skills may become outdated. How do you break habits so you can apply new skill…
9:12 PM learningmark a5) Be willing to ‘Let It Go…’. Harder in practice than theory. #lrnchat
9:12 PM jsuzcampos Q4) learning during problem-solving. what helps me? Sitting alone with a whiteboard and thinking it through, charting it out. #lrnchat
9:12 PM avanbarn A4: Look for several perspectives on the problem – from more knowledgeable/experienced. SMEs don’t always see things the same way #lrnchat
9:12 PM urbie #lrnchat A5 No, no, no. Breaking habits doesn’t work. Replacing habits is the thing. Old, redundant, obsolete practices can be respurposed.
9:12 PM cthomasknight RT @lrnchat: Q5) When situations change, existing habits and skills may become outdated. How do you break habits so you can apply new skill…
9:12 PM jsuzcampos RT @lrnchat: Q5) When situations change, existing habits and skills may become outdated. How do you break habits so you can apply new skill…
9:12 PM JustStormy a5) get a new job? #lrnchat
9:12 PM Quinnovator a5) break habits? That’s *work*! No way. I’ll just stumble along here… #lrnchat
9:12 PM The_NthDegree @JeremyDBond @sobith Assuming there’s a right and wrong. It’s probably more like a gradient of how much you learn :) #lrnchat
9:13 PM patswiney @sueprendo that’s a great point. The environment and management have to buy in. But is that natural or a workable skill? #lrnchat
9:13 PM SimonBlairTrain @The_NthDegree @avanbarn @JaneBozarth “I’d love to help you. Just let me find the right chapter.” <opens book> :-) #lrnchat
9:13 PM write2tg A5) Old habits die hard. Unless you work harder at switching them with something better #lrnchat
9:13 PM danno4krist @write2tg @trainersleaders Yeah! Just nt sure I’m really learning yet, mayb I want to solve d problem 1st, then reflect/learn later #lrnchat
9:13 PM kelly_smith01 Q4) Go to the videotape, journal, or ask others for feedback #lrnchat
9:13 PM jsuzcampos Q5) This requires self-awareness and an honest assessment of one’s ability. It’s harder than it sounds! #lrnchat
9:13 PM trainersleaders q5) I find that trying to break habits so I can apply new skills requires a great deal of focus/effort/patience/persistence #lrnchat
9:13 PM MelMilloway A5 I think this is when change management comes into play…right? #lrnchat
9:13 PM Quinnovator a5) only with the harshest of consequences, painful readjustment, and extrinsic rewards #lrnchat
9:13 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q5) When situations change, existing habits and skills may become outdated. How do you break habits so you can apply new skill…
9:13 PM The_NthDegree @SimonBlairTrain @avanbarn @JaneBozarth Damn you’re good – I was still on my way out to the library!! #lrnchat
9:14 PM jsuzcampos Q5) To break a habit, you need need recognize that you have habits. Start with self-assessment and reflection. #lrnchat
9:14 PM learningmark a5) 29 days, lots of group meetings, and a sponsor #lrnchat
9:14 PM sueprendo #lrnchat be cognizant about how habits are formed, know it’s possible to break. Be led by your “executive” brain https://t.co/zBrxRP3R4A
9:14 PM SLDoyle67 @Quinnovator Funny, I didn’t see you at work today… #lrnchat
9:14 PM WorkBrightNZ @lrnchat #lrnchat To learn new skills, I usually need guidelines to work off, then slowly gain confidence to apply my own ideas
9:14 PM avanbarn A5: Adaptability and flexibility and creativity and a willing spirit. #lrnchat
9:14 PM The_NthDegree A5b the more you know the less you know and learn. Know nothing, learn everything (or something like that!) #lrnchat
9:14 PM danno4krist A5 Tough one there… But happens a lot! #lrnchat https://t.co/ZrbUK3DH8m
9:14 PM write2tg And consequences RT @avanbarn A5: Adaptability and flexibility and creativity and a willing spirit. #lrnchat
9:15 PM urbie #lrnchat A5 Sometimes I dredge up ancient stuff to build rapport with SMEs, customers. Useless knowledge makes for engaging anecdotes, too.
9:15 PM gabriellabroady RT @lrnchat: Q5) When situations change, existing habits and skills may become outdated. How do you break habits so you can apply new skill…
9:15 PM Quinnovator a5) Duhigg’s Power of Habit, Fogg’s Tiny Habit’s, and bribes (food/drink) #lrnchat
9:15 PM MelMilloway I think there also have to be changes that change the habits of others. An overall change in general. #lrnchat
9:15 PM gabriellabroady a5. Play devil’s advocate. #lrnchat
9:16 PM learndrops A5: Constantly learn, explore. Recognize the value of the past, but only keep practices that move forward. #lrnchat https://t.co/3l4QHw6ogW
9:16 PM Dan_Jacques_LD A5 mindset: you can stay on the beach & get washed up when the tide comes in, or and ride the waves and be the master of the ocean #lrnchat
9:16 PM trainersleaders Looks as if learning revolution is over: RT @Quinnovator a5) break habits? That’s *work*! No way.I’ll just stumble along here #lrnchat
9:16 PM lrnchat Q6 See prereading on Apply- Solve- Change. How do you get new learning into your workflow? #lrnchat
9:16 PM jsuzcampos Q5) Resilience. You might have to fail in order to realize the limitations of behaviors/habits that had always worked previously. #lrnchat
9:16 PM danno4krist A5 How easy is it to ‘break’ an existing habit? Don’t do it for long? Replace with something new? #lrnchat https://t.co/ZrbUK3DH8m
9:16 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q6 See prereading on Apply- Solve- Change. How do you get new learning into your workflow? #lrnchat
9:16 PM JeremyDBond @jsuzcampos that’s a great point. How would we know what’s a #habit in the first place? #lrnchat
9:16 PM urbie #lrnchat A5 Is this idea of outdated skills/habits an American culture thing? Other cultures feel the same way about it?
9:16 PM learndrops RT @Dan_Jacques_LD: A5 mindset: you can stay on the beach & get washed up when the tide comes in, or and ride the waves and be the master o…
9:16 PM MelMilloway @JeremyNegrey @trainersleaders It is. I think some ppl adapt better than others. I’m the type that likes to play around. #lrnchat
9:16 PM Quinnovator @SLDoyle67 I’m a work ‘ninja’, you’ll never see me until it’s too late! Bwahaha! #lrnchat
9:16 PM learningmark RT @lrnchat: Q6 See prereading on Apply- Solve- Change. How do you get new learning into your workflow? #lrnchat
9:16 PM sobith A5) If it is unless a safety issue, I would rather look how the habits and skills could be transferred #lrnchat https://t.co/pDL9cEgsQK
9:17 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q6 See prereading on Apply- Solve- Change. How do you get new learning into your workflow? #lrnchat
9:17 PM The_NthDegree Who has the most capacity to learn – someone who knows everything, someone who knows nothing or s/o who wants to learn?? #attitude #lrnchat
9:17 PM jsuzcampos @JeremyDBond It all begins with self-awareness and an honest, inquisitive, conversation with oneself. #lrnchat
9:17 PM JustStormy RT @lrnchat: Q6 See prereading on Apply- Solve- Change. How do you get new learning into your workflow? #lrnchat
9:17 PM SLDoyle67 Q5) Sometimes, determine the WIFM and decide if it’s worth the effort to change. #lrnchat
9:17 PM JeremyDBond RT @Dan_Jacques_LD: A5 mindset: you can stay on the beach & get washed up when the tide comes in, or and ride the waves and be the master o…
9:17 PM sueprendo #lrnchat it also helps to see the benefit to your workflow from the change, you’ll have desire to do it then! #anythingforaneasierlife
9:17 PM learndrops RT @jsuzcampos: Q5) Resilience. You might have to fail in order to realize the limitations of behaviors/habits that had always worked prev…
9:17 PM avanbarn “@MelMilloway: I think there also have to be changes that change the habits of others.An overall change in general. #lrnchat” Change others?
9:17 PM gabriellabroady a5. Try to explain it to someone else completely out of the scope (kid? parent?); the questions they ask may shake your assumptions #lrnchat
9:17 PM theASIDEblog Thanks for an engaging #lrnchat tonight.
9:17 PM patswiney @sueprendo I think it’s both. Some are more natural at it but it is a skill I’ve tried to hone as I’ve grown in my career. #lrnchat
9:17 PM Quinnovator a6) practice practice practice #lrnchat
9:17 PM danno4krist Exactly my point Taruna! I guess just building new habits may eventually extint old ones… #lrnchat https://t.co/kwrEMWl0Ya
9:18 PM urbie #lrnchat A5 Crazy observation.. that thing you do in #designthinking, prototyping with whatever is handy? Obsolete rocks during these times.
9:18 PM sobith RT @lrnchat: Q6 See prereading on Apply- Solve- Change. How do you get new learning into your workflow? #lrnchat
9:18 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q6 See prereading on Apply- Solve- Change. How do you get new learning into your workflow? #lrnchat
9:18 PM jsuzcampos Q6) Getting new learning in the workflow. This sounds weird, but I am always running a dialogue in my head. “This works! Why?” #lrnchat
9:18 PM trainersleaders q6) To get new learning into workflow, we need to see it as a process, not an event (Yes, @Quinnovator, I’m echoing the master) #lrnchat
9:18 PM jsuzcampos Q6) Getting new learning in the workflow. Sounds weird, but I am always running a dialogue in my head. “This didn’t work! Why?” #lrnchat
9:18 PM JeremyNegrey @lrnchat iterative changes. We try to make small changes ever dev cycle so change is the norm and we don’t get stuck in ruts. #lrnchat
9:18 PM avanbarn A6: Try. Reflect. Adjust. More a learn by doing situation. #lrnchat
9:18 PM SimonBlairTrain A6: When I discover that what I’m doing stopped working. #lrnchat
9:18 PM gabriellabroady a5. sometimes I start by trying to figure out what’s the “Stop, Start, Continue” to verbalize behaviors/actions etc needing change. #lrnchat
9:18 PM sueprendo #lrnchat I like to use visuals and have it in front of me, sketchnoting, post its, and most importantly – practice https://t.co/4GCV7lS2DS
9:19 PM cthomasknight A5 I dig deep to work on something that drives my passion in order to reduce the anxiety and feelings of less than… #lrnchat
9:19 PM write2tg A6) Apply, get feedback, make mistakes, learn some more. Simply put: practice #lrnchat
9:19 PM jsuzcampos Q6) Getting new learning in the workflow. Run a dialogue in your head: “That took a long time. Could I do it faster? How?” #lrnchat
9:19 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 S-l-o-w-l-y. D-e-l-i-b-e-r-a-t-e-l-y.
9:19 PM The_NthDegree A6 New learning/old learning/learning – drives what we do rather than process – 5 is just a model – recognise learning is pervasive #lrnchat
9:19 PM learndrops A6: Set time to reflect. Explore. Proactively demand innovation of yourself, your team, your organization. #lrnchat https://t.co/skqAs2EGqC
9:19 PM Quinnovator a6) leveraging our cog architecture: forcing functions, external support, incentives, celebrations #lrnchat
9:19 PM learningmark a6) acknowledge that learning is continuous, allowing us to do the work, solve problems as they arise, and adapt to changes #lrnchat
9:19 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A5) Mindset + Micro-goals + skills transfer = work in progress #lrnchat
9:19 PM jsuzcampos Q6) Getting new learning in the workflow. Run a dialogue in your head: “I hate how that worked out. What can I change next time?” #lrnchat
9:20 PM sobith RT @write2tg: A6) Apply, get feedback, make mistakes, learn some more. Simply put: practice #lrnchat
9:20 PM MelMilloway @avanbarn An overall feeling of “newness” or change. Change the environment a bit and other things to make it seem new/different. #lrnchat
9:20 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 When I work with teams they’re not willing to change willy-nilly. Then there’s management and their take it slow approach.
9:20 PM cthomasknight A6. Reduce fear by accepting some level of failure or inefficiency #lrnchat
9:20 PM write2tg RT @Quinnovator: a6) practice practice practice #lrnchat
9:20 PM learndrops RT @learningmark: a6) acknowledge that learning is continuous, allowing us to do the work, solve problems as they arise, and adapt to chang…
9:20 PM cthomasknight RT @lrnchat: Q6 See prereading on Apply- Solve- Change. How do you get new learning into your workflow? #lrnchat
9:20 PM The_NthDegree (if process drives what you do, where’s the magic in that?) #lrnchat
9:20 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 Working alone I have the most fun applying new stuff. It gets crazy tho when I do it with customers around.
9:20 PM guywwallace RT @rjpanetti: Q4) you guys read Learning Fast and Slow? Engaging system 2 is when the learning happens #lrnchat
9:20 PM theASIDEblog @crottymark @Learn21Tech You bet. Educators don’t need meaningless evaluations for a paper trail. #lrnchat
9:21 PM kelly_smith01 Q5) Yes reflection. Journaling. See Wernher von Braun notes example in Show Your Work #lrnchat #showyourwork
9:21 PM urbie RT @Quinnovator: a6) practice practice practice #lrnchat
9:21 PM patswiney A5) Being ready for change or constantly looking to improve helps lessen the challenge this can become. Repetition of new skills #lrnchat
9:21 PM trainersleaders Loved “Thinking Fast & Slow” MT @rjpanetti: you guys read Learning Fast and Slow? Engaging system 2 is when the learning happens #lrnchat
9:21 PM cthomasknight RT @learndrops: A6: Set time to reflect. Explore. Proactively demand innovation of yourself, your team, your organization. #lrnchat https:…
9:21 PM Quinnovator a6) commit, document, evaluate (or do, review, refine) #lrnchat
9:21 PM JeremyDBond @gabriellabroady I think of how to teach something to relatives at the [insert holiday] table. Nontraditional learning environment. #lrnchat
9:22 PM rjpanetti Q6) I find explaining new learning to another person is a good way to really understand it. Much to my wife’s chagrin #lrnchat
9:22 PM lrnchat Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
9:22 PM lrnchat Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
9:22 PM learningmark RT @lrnchat: Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
9:22 PM avanbarn “@cthomasknight: A6. Reduce fear by accepting some level of failure or inefficiency #lrnchat” Perhaps accept multiple levels of opportunity!
9:22 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
9:22 PM JustStormy RT @lrnchat: Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
9:22 PM sobith RT @rjpanetti: Q6) I find explaining new learning to another person is a good way to really understand it. Much to my wife’s chagrin #lrnch…
9:22 PM learndrops Agree. Need a mindset that improvements and adjustments are part of the process. Polish. @JeremyNegrey #lrnchat https://t.co/sJD9lf5g3E
9:22 PM SimonBlairTrain @JeremyDBond @gabriellabroady That’d help with handling unruly participants! :-) #lrnchat
9:22 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 The thing to do, or try to, is ask the question: How does this <new thing> let me do cheaper, faster, better? Yes? Then know.
9:22 PM write2tg RT @Quinnovator: a6) commit, document, evaluate (or do, review, refine) #lrnchat
9:22 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
9:23 PM gabriellabroady a6. screen shot the steps you need to change next time. Write stories on situation;what you learned. Tell others 4 accountability. #lrnchat
9:23 PM gabriellabroady RT @lrnchat: Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
9:23 PM JustStormy a7) not to be late and not everyone listens to you #lrnchat
9:23 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
9:23 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A6) By ensuring my workflow is responsive and adaptive to change #lrnchat
9:23 PM patswiney @JeremyNegrey @lrnchat I find the “extra” facts makes me look more like an expert but facts and learning it can be different #lrnchat
9:23 PM The_NthDegree A7 That learning people often forget about learning and focus on knowledge and process… but it’s the interactions that shape me #lrnchat
9:24 PM CaveoLearning A strong #Learning & Development brand builds credibility and enthusiasm for #training. http://t.co/Tnbvuc3fea #atd #elearning #lrnchat
9:24 PM Quinnovator a7) that #lrnchat is a continuing incentive to improving my practice
9:24 PM sueprendo #lrnchat becoming better is as much about your own attitude as it is the resources you have access to https://t.co/m0wzrBP3PJ
9:24 PM danno4krist Consistency is key 4me… Kip doing it until it gets it,difficult/slow at d onset, once in u won’t notice #lrnchat https://t.co/Tu6lENRpab
9:24 PM The_NthDegree @The_NthDegree so even though I don’t agree with lots of you – it does help me learn :) #lrnchat
9:24 PM write2tg MT @The_NthDegree A7 That learning people often forget about learning and focus on knowledge and process… #lrnchat
9:24 PM JustStormy a7) what I know is that my community is always here and has my back #lrnchat
9:24 PM WorkBrightNZ @lrnchat #lrnchat Tonight I learned that you really have to do the prereading if you want to get the most out of the session. Here & in gen!
9:24 PM learningmark a7) I learned that I learn more through interacting with others. Like all y’all. #lrnchat
9:24 PM patswiney @lrnchat This is my first one but I learned about other’s perspectives and how to have more of an open mind to new learning #lrnchat
9:24 PM Quinnovator RT @gabriellabroady: a6. screen shot the steps you need to change next time. Write stories on situation;what you learned. Tell others 4 acc…
9:24 PM SLDoyle67 Q7) I learned I enjoy this chat more than sitting on a hard bench watching a lacrosse or football practice #lrnchat
9:24 PM cthomasknight RT @lrnchat: Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
9:24 PM trainersleaders q7) Learned tonight, during #lrnchat, that even reviewing familiar material/ideas always produces new insights/deep appreciation
9:25 PM urbie #lrnchat A7 Figure 1 was interesting. It looks something like https://t.co/z9pJHT9jYR .. the rate at which a capacitor charges 1/2
9:25 PM WorkBrightNZ @lrnchat #lrnchat Gotta sign off, busy busy, thanks guys!
9:25 PM write2tg A7) We learn by doing and by sharing and interacting with others. Like today! #lrnchat
9:25 PM patswiney We need to be constantly learning and growing as individuals. #lrnchat https://t.co/LPzN4rrdzc
9:25 PM Quinnovator RT @trainersleaders: q7) Learned tonight, during #lrnchat, that even reviewing familiar material/ideas always produces new insights/deep ap…
9:25 PM gabriellabroady a7. none of us are perfect learners. we bring our curiosity and do our best. #lrnchat
9:25 PM The_NthDegree @sueprendo I think processes are a lot like religion – it’s a model and if it helps you that’s great :) if it helps lots evn better #lrnchat
9:26 PM gabriellabroady RT @write2tg: A7) We learn by doing and by sharing and interacting with others. Like today! #lrnchat
9:26 PM danno4krist A6 Aha… Now comes d point for reflection! Major in getting real stuff in… Let me also add Sharing too. #lrnchat https://t.co/sEo8mCCIa4
9:26 PM urbie #lrnchat A7 The curve is a natural function appearing all over. W/capacitors it takes a constant voltage applied. Learn something? Work it.
9:26 PM Quinnovator reinforce the motivation, yes! #lrnchat https://t.co/3U9FIpCzz4
9:26 PM PatriceKiraly RT @Quinnovator: a6) leveraging our cog architecture: forcing functions, external support, incentives, celebrations #lrnchat
9:26 PM patswiney @cthomasknight This can be hard to do but valuable if you can excel at this skill in life and in learning. Great point #lrnchat
9:26 PM write2tg A7) I learn when I want to learn. If I am committed, learning happens. #lrnchat
9:26 PM trainersleaders Yes! #lrnchat as flipped classroom: MT @WorkBrightNZ learned you have to do prereading to get most out of the session. Here & in gen!
9:27 PM urbie #lrnchat A7 So something I learned in 1974 at DeVry helps me transfer new learning.
9:27 PM lrnchat QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:27 PM coachnikibray RT @write2tg: Causing Serendipity by Jane Bozarth: http://t.co/lSGYdg3mvU > Ideas on how to support learning. Loved ‘rocks in the path’ con…
9:27 PM learningmark RT @lrnchat: QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:27 PM Quinnovator a7) ’tis a far better thing to try and fail than never to try at all #lrnchat
9:27 PM The_NthDegree AWrap – O #lrnchat
9:27 PM jsuzcampos Q7) I like that the questions tonight required us to reflect on our own learning habits. #lrnchat
9:27 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A7) Need to explore the ‘how’ in encouraging learners to embrace failure as an opportunity and not a reflection of them #lrnchat
9:27 PM JustStormy RT @lrnchat: QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:27 PM write2tg I enjoyed that too RT @jsuzcampos Q7) I like that the questions tonight required us to reflect on our own learning habits. #lrnchat
9:27 PM sueprendo RT @write2tg: A7) I learn when I want to learn. If I am committed, learning happens. #lrnchat
9:27 PM cthomasknight A7. Collaboration+ some level of acceptance of failure can help drive innovation. Journaling reminds how far we’ve come. #lrnchat
9:28 PM write2tg Wise words Clark RT @Quinnovator a7) ’tis a far better thing to try and fail than never to try at all #lrnchat
9:28 PM trainersleaders Wrap-up: Paul Signorelli, writer-trainer-instructional designer-consultant; blogging at http://t.co/SHnvJ7P8j6 #lrnchat
9:28 PM learndrops A7: That perhaps attitude is as key a factor as the structures we build to support continuous learning. #lrnchat https://t.co/b0RBcPHH6y
9:28 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:28 PM sobith RT @Quinnovator: a7) ’tis a far better thing to try and fail than never to try at all #lrnchat
9:28 PM danno4krist Yes…2 key words! Most things we do deliberately, we do them slowly… And we get them in to us eventually #lrnchat https://t.co/iGRulxo9F5
9:28 PM Quinnovator @JustStormy who’s not creating the #newthings? just created a better ‘turn to your neighbor’! http://t.co/awTNGS4U25 #lrnchat
9:28 PM urbie #lrnchat awrap urbie sharing some crazy ideas with legs at http://t.co/OXrxpblJh8 + I get to particpate in #EdCampUSA in 2 weeks.
9:28 PM The_NthDegree Awrap I’m Nigel from NZ – managing quality, teaching&learning 4 BOP Polytechnic – when I figure out wat that means I’ll let u know! #lrnchat
9:28 PM jsuzcampos Qwrap) Wish I could have been here for the entire conversation. One of my favorite topics! #lrnchat
9:28 PM gabriellabroady RT @jsuzcampos: Q7) I like that the questions tonight required us to reflect on our own learning habits. #lrnchat
9:29 PM learningmark AWrap) doing laundry for #ATD2015 in Orlando. http://t.co/v01Z0Xxwz8
#lrnchat
9:29 PM avanbarn A7: Learned that an hour can really fly! Holy smokes! #lrnchat
9:29 PM JeremyDBond A7) I just learned the five moments of #learning need. For the benefit of those not on #lrnchat: http://t.co/hKeo1sg7Up @learningsolmag
9:29 PM MelMilloway Fantastic chat! You can find me at #ATD2015 if you are going. Check out my post on what I will be bringing. https://t.co/xwpkJOeLCZ #lrnchat
9:29 PM urbie RT @MelMilloway: Fantastic chat! You can find me at #ATD2015 if you are going. Check out my post on what I will be bringing. https://t.co/x…
9:29 PM Quinnovator aW) blogging at http://t.co/Nm5yXCbV5R, instigating at http://t.co/gfA9TvI2KL, working through http://t.co/FfFRKPWUDT #lrnchat
9:29 PM cthomasknight Have a great night all. Cheryl, Sr ISD @TriCedu in the #cle #lrnchat
9:29 PM rjpanetti This really is the most important part. If you care about it you’ll figure it out. Same with anyone else.#lrnchat https://t.co/zDNLIMCdzg
9:30 PM trainersleaders Nice twist on #lrnchat tonight: after firehose levels of info, we were encouraged to mention what we learned. Simple, but effective
9:30 PM lrnchat Thanks everyone for joining #lrnchat tonight. See you next week! Look for weekly transcripts at http://t.co/ijNIXq164N

Transcript – May 7, 2015: Eliminating Learning

May 8, 2015 by

#lrnchat is an online chat over the social messaging service Twitter. It is held on Thursdays at 8:30-9:30pm ET/5:30-6:30pm PT.

Participants are people interested in the topic of learning from one another and who want to discuss how to help other people learn in formal, informal, social and mobile ways. We aim to steer clear of topics that are more “training department” oriented and focus on how people learn, what they learn, and what we’re learning.  If you an idea for a topic that you would like to suggest for #lrnchat, please feel free to reach out to any of the Chat Hosts.

This Week’s Chat Questions

  • @shackletonjones offers examples of eliminating learning: London Tube map, pilot flight plans. What are others?
  • How do you design a system that people don’t have to learn how to use? Tradeoffs?
  • What does “expertise” look like in a system where learning has been eliminated from the design?
  • What things other than learning can improve performance?
  • Should we build sat-nav/GPS like systems for everything? Eliminate learning from everything? Why/Why not?
  • In a world of learning machines, what will learning look like in the future?
  • What is something that you learned, surprised you, or you’ll do different after from tonight’s chat?

Chat Transcript

NOTE: Tweets are listed in the order they were posted and are shown in Eastern Time. To visit the actual posting for a particular tweet, click the associated user name for the posting.

lrnchat Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
urbie RT @lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
adkpiper Hi #lrnchat! It’s been a busy week but I’m doing okay. Helping out on some one-off instructional design products lately, which is fun!
DanHirtEsq heading into a #lrnchat for as long as I can! Heads up!
lrnchat Special news: The #lrnchat team is pleased to welcome new moderator @jsuzcampos !
urbie RT @lrnchat: Special news: The #lrnchat team is pleased to welcome new moderator @jsuzcampos !
trainersleaders Joining #lrnchat colleagues for next hour to explore “is learning necessary, or better to go straight to performance?”–hope you’ll be there
sobith @lrnchat snow yesterday, sunny today #yeg #lrnchat
abahr08 My first #lrnchat I am really excited to be a part of it. #lrnchat
kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
write2tg Hello #lrnchat. What a week this has been! Good to see familiar faces :) #lrnchat
AssignmentHelpN Keeping Students Interested in Classroom Teaching:Teacher’s Guide #TNedchat #G2Great #lrnchat http://t.co/ghoAiPYoTa http://t.co/VIX4PAdbMY
JaneBozarth Hey y’all. #lrnchat
MCFraserElvira #lrnchat Been away from the conversation for a LONG time! Excited to join tonight!
opurt11 @abahr08 Welcome! #lrnchat
learndrops Hi all at #lrnchat !
trishuhl RT @lrnchat: Tonight’s #lrnchat: Based on @shackletonjones ideas on “eliminating learning” PLEASE READ http://t.co/WSvaDvQwjG
lrnchat Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat
urbie RT @lrnchat: Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat
write2tg @MCFraserElvira Welcome! #lrnchat
JaneBozarth @abahr08 welcome! #lrnchat
audioswhite Hello #lrnchat
JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Special news: The #lrnchat team is pleased to welcome new moderator @jsuzcampos !
adkpiper Hollis Easter. Finding ways to teach faster, but also trying to build environments where the need for learning is minimized. #lrnchat
kregerck RT @lrnchat: Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat
JaneBozarth I am just home from 2 weeks in Sint Maarten. I am unhappy about wearing shoes. Thanks for asking. #lrnchat
DanHirtEsq @abahr08 Ahoy! Welcome to the party! #lrnchat
write2tg RT @lrnchat: Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat
opurt11 Chad Lowry, Customer Education Manager, Chicago. Trying to find the balance between training and performance support. #lrnchat
trishuhl .@lrnchat I’m well, THNX! Busy w projects and getting ready for #ATD2015 And you? How are you? #lrnchat
MCFraserElvira @write2tg Howdy howdy! #lrnchat
trainersleaders Intro: Paul Signorelli, San Francisco-based writer-trainer-instructional designer-consultant; immersed in #ConnectedLearning #lrnchat
jyoti__gupta #lrnchat Exciting week – submitted a proposal to an ID conference this week. Trying to get others to submit as well!
adkpiper @JaneBozarth truly we all share your pain and sorrow as if it were our own. #lrnchat
JeremyDBond RT @lrnchat: Tonight’s #lrnchat: Based on @shackletonjones ideas on “eliminating learning” PLEASE READ http://t.co/WSvaDvQwjG
MattGuyan G’day #lrnchat it’s been a while :-)
JaneBozarth @adkpiper well then you have surely come to the right place tonight. #lrnchat
learndrops I’m working on a crowdsourcing project for elearning courses. #lrnchat
urbie #lrnchat urbie, rather fond of engaging learning experiences (i.e. that gets butts out of seats)
roswellsaintx The benefit of sitting up late in Scotland watching election (1:30am) results….hello #lrnchat
DanHirtEsq Dan from Michigan, finding that sweet spot between ‘sink’ and ‘swim’ #lrnchat
learningmark Hey, all y’all! Been a bit, but glad to see everyone. Fighting my tweetchat tonight…. #lrnchat
odguru Shifting from course to resource on #lrnchat tonight. The Learning Elimination Team http://t.co/VJttBBk36g
write2tg Taruna Goel, learning consultant from Vancouver BC, Currently immersed in designing career profiles for the mining industry #lrnchat
DanHirtEsq @roswellsaintx did anyone win? #lrnchat
kelly_smith01 Kelly Smith, Consultant learning & tech North Texas #lrnchat
abahr08 A0) I am currently trying to find my next master’s thesis topic for development in employees #lrnchat
write2tg RT @lrnchat: Tonight’s #lrnchat: Based on @shackletonjones ideas on “eliminating learning” PLEASE READ http://t.co/WSvaDvQwjG
Learning_Dude Hello, #lrnchat. Stephen from Norfolk, VA tonight. I’m facilitating a @CompTIA CTT+ Boot Camp this week. :)
JaneBozarth Was hoping @TweetChat would be working tonight. But noooooo #lrnchat
ConsultMontreal RT @write2tg: Taruna Goel, learning consultant from Vancouver BC, Currently immersed in designing career profiles for the mining industry …
willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
opurt11 @JaneBozarth How about tchat.io? #lrnchat
lrnchat Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
MCFraserElvira #lrnchat Meghan, learning consultant from Orlando ☀️
JeremyDBond @JaneBozarth I feel your pain. I was in Aruba recently. #lrnchat
brunowinck @JaneBozarth @Kneaver works fine as usual, reliable @TweetChat #LrnChat
urbie RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
willconstantine Hi Everyone! Greetings from #LearnHaus #lrnchat
write2tg Try http://t.co/xujr1JtZaZ RT @JaneBozarth: Was hoping @TweetChat would be working tonight. But noooooo #lrnchat
trishuhl .@lrnchat Trish Uhl #Chicago PASSION > helping L&D pros raise their game Projects > marketing training, how2 build biz /consultancy #lrnchat
write2tg RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
JaneBozarth @DanHirtEsq lol nice… #lrnchat
kregerck Christine Kreger, librarian and trainer. Counting the days (4) until vacation! #lrnchat
opurt11 Q0) Learned about a software tool my company has had for years that I had no idea existed. #lrnchat
MattGuyan Q0 I learned that sometimes things aren’t always what they seem… #lrnchat
jyoti__gupta @abahr08 Interesting. What are you leaving toward? #lrnchat
Learning_Dude Today I re-realized that facilitation is truly my passion. It’s been a great week! @toddgreider #lrnchat
saranshgarg 10 Signs You Are a Tech-Savvy Teacher – EdTechReview http://t.co/JpHno0Vvpf #educator #edtechchat #edtech #ntchat #lrnchat #ntchat #BFC530
trishuhl .@opurt11 Seems like the right mission for tonight’s discussion, Chad! #lrnchat
lrnchat Tonight’s #lrnchat theme comes to us from @shackletonjones with questions from him and from @adkpiper
JaneBozarth @adkpiper thank you . weeping, rocking #lrnchat
CandiceCPLP Hi all, greetings from NC. Candice here. #lrnchat
brunowinck Q0) Learn that very few users upgrade from free to premium service (My day is only 2h old) #LrnChat
kregerck RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
abahr08 A0) I have been learning how different people learn and that it is important to constantly learn from each individual #lrnchat
RobynKraus Hi, I’m Robyn, an instructional writer for health IT from Colorado #lrnchat
odguru @JaneBozarth @TweetChat I know right… #lrnchat.
learningmark A0) learned that looking up answers on smartphones helps students stay engaged. So forget the old rules. #lrnchat
urbie #lrnchat A0 Learned this week that i like the part in the ID process where SMEs dream about their role..
trainersleaders q0) Learning right now that tweetchat & twubs seem to be down, making #lrnchat a bit challenging
write2tg A0) Learned How We Win By Looking Dumb http://t.co/TGplsAycDN #lrnchat
brunowinck Love this >> RT @Learning_Dude: Today I re-realized that facilitation is truly my passion. It�s been a great week! @toddgreider #lrnchat
willconstantine @Learning_Dude @toddgreider that’s great! #lrnchat
opurt11 @trishuhl Hope we get it all sorted! :) #lrnchat
willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Tonight’s #lrnchat theme comes to us from @shackletonjones with questions from him and from @adkpiper
adkpiper A0 I learned that job postings nearly always expect training, which makes me think: “but what about non-training interventions?” #lrnchat
Learning_Dude @CandiceCPLP Hey…can’t tell from your profile picture, but I think we met at Learning Solutions. #lrnchat
MrKMaston @lrnchat A0) This week I learnt that most Learning activities occurring in the office are invisible, and often not shared #lrnchat
sobith Q0) stories are powerful in learning #lrnchat
kelly_smith01 Learned that multi-vendor projects can be a Tower of Babel #lrnchat
brunowinck Bruno Winck, Epicurian Software Vendor currently eating fine Indian food and tweeting late #LrnChat
adkpiper @lrnchat @shackletonjones WOOO FAMOUS GUEST INQUISITORS #lrnchat
sobith RT @MrKMaston: @lrnchat A0) This week I learnt that most Learning activities occurring in the office are invisible, and often not shared #l…
opurt11 Q0) Also learned Spotify now allows you to see the lyrics to your tracks. #lrnchat
Learning_Dude RT @MrKMaston: @lrnchat A0) This week I learnt that most Learning activities occurring in the office are invisible, and often not shared #l…
learningmark Tweetchat letting me post, Twitter letting me read… Oy vey! #lrnchat
CandiceCPLP I learned that anonymity has a different meaning than I expected. #lrnchat #difficultday
Dave_Ferguson @kelly_smith01 …more often, Tower of Babble. #lrnchat
trishuhl RT @lrnchat: Tonight’s #lrnchat theme comes to us from @shackletonjones with questions from him and from @adkpiper
write2tg RT @MrKMaston: @lrnchat A0) This week I learnt that most Learning activities occurring in the office are invisible, and often not shared #l…
abahr08 @jyoti__gupta currently, looking at cultural differences in individuals and the skills that are needed in the workplace #lrnchat
lrnchat Q1) @shackletonjones offers examples of eliminating learning: London Tube map, pilot flight plans. What are others? #lrnchat
roswellsaintx Q0 to stay true to your beliefs #lrnchat
urbie RT @lrnchat: Q1) @shackletonjones offers examples of eliminating learning: London Tube map, pilot flight plans. What are others? #lrnchat
write2tg RT @lrnchat: Q1) @shackletonjones offers examples of eliminating learning: London Tube map, pilot flight plans. What are others? #lrnchat
Learning_Dude I also learned that engagement, in a facilitated session, doesn’t necessarily equal learning. #lrnchat
DanHirtEsq a0) i learned to block my calendar whenever possible. “When Meetings Attack!” #lrnchat
brunowinck @opurt11, hum, I saw you already somehere today #LrnChat
DanHirtEsq RT @lrnchat: Q1) @shackletonjones offers examples of eliminating learning: London Tube map, pilot flight plans. What are others? #lrnchat
odguru RT @kelly_smith01: Learned that multi-vendor projects can be a Tower of Babel #lrnchat
kregerck RT @lrnchat: Q1) @shackletonjones offers examples of eliminating learning: London Tube map, pilot flight plans. What are others? #lrnchat
kelly_smith01 @adkpiper Oh no we must have a product as part of our intervention – must not think outside the box #lrnchat
willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q1) @shackletonjones offers examples of eliminating learning: London Tube map, pilot flight plans. What are others? #lrnchat
opurt11 @brunowinck We get around, don’t we? #lrnchat
learningmark RT @lrnchat: Q1) @shackletonjones offers examples of eliminating learning: London Tube map, pilot flight plans. What are others? #lrnchat
lrnchat First timers: There are tools that will add the #lrnchat tag for you. @twubs seems to be working tonight . -jb
Learning_Dude A1) I’m not familiar with eliminating learning, or the @shackletonjones examples. Hmmm. I’m listening. #lrnchat
CandiceCPLP @Learning_Dude Did not have that pleasure, But perhaps at mLearn? #lrnchat
DanHirtEsq a1) Menus! #lrnchat
MCFraserElvira RT @lrnchat: Q1) @shackletonjones offers examples of eliminating learning: London Tube map, pilot flight plans. What are others? #lrnchat
jyoti__gupta @abahr08 Interesting. Def. feel that culture influences leadership style. Good luck. #lrnchat
Learning_Dude @CandiceCPLP No. Hmmm. Oh well. Hello, anyway. :) #lrnchat
Dave_Ferguson Learned greatest term, easily applied: Seagull profess. develpmnt: swoop in, make a lot of noise, leave mostly crap. #lrnchat
JaneBozarth @CandiceCPLP learned doing dissertation that ‘confidentiality’ and ‘anonymity’ are different #lrnchat
JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q1) @shackletonjones offers examples of eliminating learning: London Tube map, pilot flight plans. What are others? #lrnchat
CandiceCPLP “@kelly_smith01: Learned that multi-vendor projects can be a Tower of Babel #lrnchat” > True that!
Dave_Ferguson Or, more briefly, Swoop & Poop. #lrnchat
opurt11 Q1) Digital labels on my phone that tell me what each button does. #lrnchat
brunowinck @lrnchat @twubs heard #Nurph could do it also (plus they run a kickstarter) #LrnChat
write2tg A1) Restaurant Menu – no learning only performance :) #lrnchat
sobith Q1) GPS and google maps #lrnchat
JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Tonight’s #lrnchat theme comes to us from @shackletonjones with questions from him and from @adkpiper
MCFraserElvira A1) #lrnchat What about a cookbook?
adkpiper A1 Websites that follow Google-esque interface design. Car interfaces. (Good) cell phone interfaces. Automatic safety interlocks. #lrnchat
StyleLearn All your maps should be apps #lrnchat
willconstantine @lrnchat @twubs tweeting from iPhone app works but not the iPad app? @twitter I believe I have asked for a fix before? #lrnchat
jyoti__gupta a0) Dyson vacuum has the instructions for cleaning it molded into the plastic – don’t even have to look for paper instructions #lrnchat
JaneBozarth @adkpiper No one expects the #lrnchat inquisitors
kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q1) @shackletonjones offers examples of eliminating learning: London Tube map, pilot flight plans. What are others? #lrnchat
audioswhite A1) well, not always a shining example – ikea instructions #lrnchat
JeremyDBond A1) Twitter! Some have said I need to sit down sometime and show them how to do it. But I don’t. #lrnchat
odguru 0) Christy from Guelph Canada. Learning this week about finding resources, handily enough, to support my work. #lrnchat
Dave_Ferguson Job aids, in general, reduce if not eliminate “learning” of things that could/should be referred to. #lrnchat
Learning_Dude A1) My wife, @saysayok, says “Apple Watch.” #lrnchat
learningmark a1) enabling work groups to share planning with others, reduces need for formal training implementing #lrnchat
brunowinck A1) isn’t this example of information instead of knowledge ? I don’t learn a timetable, a todo list, weather forecast, chat list #LrnChat
trishuhl LOL Courses or Resources? I use tools / methods by @bmosh and @arossett as guidelines #lrnchat https://t.co/raeoasYEiA
adkpiper A0 GPS devices. #lrnchat
write2tg Oh there’s plenty to learn (or unlearn) from those! RT @audioswhite: A1) well, not always a shining example – ikea instructions #lrnchat
JaneBozarth RT @adkpiper: A1 Websites that follow Google-esque interface design. Car interfaces. (Good) cell phone interfaces. Automatic safety interlo…
CandiceCPLP “@Learning_Dude: @CandiceCPLP No. Hmmm. Oh well. Hello, anyway. :) #lrnchat” Back atcha! 😀
DanHirtEsq Our parents! “How do you spell x?” “how long should I boil an egg?” #lrnchat
Learning_Dude I think it’s a bit unfair to use the phrase “eliminate learning.” Learning still occurs, but a formality has been removed. #lrnchat
JaneBozarth I remember first time i took Kindle out of box: screen said ‘mover power button to the right’ #lrnchat
jyoti__gupta @MCFraserElvira Agree with “cookbook” #lrnchat
sueprendo I also learned that video game music helps me concentrate :) #lrnchat
StyleLearn Data + Context = Information? #lrnchat
Dave_Ferguson In this kind of discussion, for me, ‘learn’ means ‘store in memory for later application.’ #lrnchat
JaneBozarth RT @DanHirtEsq: Our parents! “How do you spell x?” “how long should I boil an egg?” #lrnchat
urbie #lrnchat A1 How about those infographics, like this one http://t.co/6dp3DGoud6
kelly_smith01 Q1) A job aid? (Hopefully verified). #lrnchat http://t.co/6spZVKbZVU
willconstantine Q1) Lego instructions #lrnchat
AllisonAnderson Hello all. Allison in Portland. Slightly distracted, watching AFOne land at PDX. #prezvisit #lrnchat
trishuhl Q0) This week I learned little bit about quite a lot of software And was reintroduced to joys of riding ATV thru fields n forest! #lrnchat
brunowinck @Learning_Dude frictionless learning ? #LrnChat
kregerck Just learned that a tornado warning is in effect. May be ducking out soon! #lrnchat
willconstantine A pre-set cook menu on a microwave #lrnchat
Learning_Dude @brunowinck I like that. #lrnchat
write2tg A1) A job aid, like a checklist, reduces the dependence on a course or on our memory. #lrnchat
DanHirtEsq They are SO! GOOD! #lrnchat https://t.co/EtDvG7Ixec
RobynKraus A1) Anything where the design itself provides the answer so you don’t have to search for it #lrnchat
JeremyDBond @brunowinck does seem as if we should make a distinction between the two. #lrnchat
urbie RT @lrnchat: First timers: There are tools that will add the #lrnchat tag for you. @twubs seems to be working tonight . -jb
audioswhite @Learning_Dude a had some semantic issues with article but get the gist. #lrnchat
sueprendo Job aids, infographics, mobile apps, talking to peers? #lrnchat https://t.co/1FBjJvNue5
CandiceCPLP A1) Good EPSS’s #lrnchat
lrnchat Q2) How do you design a system that people don’t have to learn how to use? Tradeoffs? #lrnchat
Learning_Dude RT @RobynKraus: A1) Anything where the design itself provides the answer so you don’t have to search for it #lrnchat
urbie RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design a system that people don’t have to learn how to use? Tradeoffs? #lrnchat
odguru 1) mentors and other learning partners are most excellent course replacements #mentoring #lrnchat
willconstantine Q1) oh oh I know! …a mirror #lrnchat
DanHirtEsq RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design a system that people don’t have to learn how to use? Tradeoffs? #lrnchat
write2tg RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design a system that people don’t have to learn how to use? Tradeoffs? #lrnchat
adkpiper I think we’re talking abt learning as non-productive time spent preparing for future work, so eliminating = all time is productive. #lrnchat
Learning_Dude A2) Go meditate by Steve Jobs’ grave. #lrnchat
MCFraserElvira RT @write2tg: A1) A job aid, like a checklist, reduces the dependence on a course or on our memory. #lrnchat
opurt11 Q2) It should have few functions, and fewer distractions. #lrnchat
jyoti__gupta a1) Robots and / or AI that does things for you #lrnchat
learningmark RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design a system that people don’t have to learn how to use? Tradeoffs? #lrnchat
willconstantine @trishuhl what software? BTW HI! MISS YOU! See you soon! #lrnchat
willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design a system that people don’t have to learn how to use? Tradeoffs? #lrnchat
sobith Q1) my grocery list #lrnchat
kregerck RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design a system that people don’t have to learn how to use? Tradeoffs? #lrnchat
Learning_Dude @audioswhite Confession: didn’t do any pre-reading, so I’m probably unprepared for this. *gulp* #lrnchat
StyleLearn A1) Any Apple device #lrnchat
DanHirtEsq a2) remove all the words #lrnchat
lrnchat Tonight’s #lrnchat is based on this piece by @shackletonjones http://t.co/VAehOSO0hO
opurt11 Q2) Tradeoff is that it won’t provide the context of a more robust approach. #lrnchat
kregerck A2) Have current users help. Ask new folks where the pain points are. #lrnchat
willconstantine Q2) It’s kind of like the concept of providing a fork with a plate #lrnchat
Learning_Dude A2) Iterate. Iterate. Iterate. Get the user involved throughout the design process. #lrnchat
urbie #lrnchat A1 Ask a group of people from your learner population that question and start a #designthinking project to solve
brunowinck TY RT @lrnchat: Tonight’s #lrnchat is based on this piece by @shackletonjones http://t.co/n8hT2dZsMH
adkpiper Q2 Watch ppl using existing systems, see where they fail, and design systems that work properly in those cases. Do what’s expected. #lrnchat
JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design a system that people don’t have to learn how to use? Tradeoffs? #lrnchat
MrKMaston @lrnchat A2) By considerating automation #lrnchat
sobith Q2) Keep the design simple #lrnchat
learningmark a2) build new system on what they already know. Connection to existing knowledge. #lrnchat
JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Tonight’s #lrnchat is based on this piece by @shackletonjones http://t.co/VAehOSO0hO
DanHirtEsq a2) have information appear only when you need it #lrnchat
MattGuyan Q2 simple design, not complex #lrnchat
learndrops A2: Good UI. Then contextual help with leveling up. Understanding goals important. #lrnchat https://t.co/6Z98HtgvII
JaneBozarth RT @StyleLearn: A1) Any Apple device #lrnchat
kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design a system that people don’t have to learn how to use? Tradeoffs? #lrnchat
write2tg A2) People should not be expected to learn how to use a ‘system’ that helps them learn something else. #lrnchat
trishuhl q1) @lrnchat @shackletonjones Learning hasn’t changed – still need to learn – what we’ve done outsourced memorization to resources #lrnchat
kregerck RT @odguru: 1) mentors and other learning partners are most excellent course replacements #mentoring #lrnchat
write2tg RT @DanHirtEsq: a2) have information appear only when you need it #lrnchat
willconstantine Q2) Use case and UX/UI meaning know the details of the task and how the system becomes a part of that #lrnchat
kregerck RT @write2tg: A1) A job aid, like a checklist, reduces the dependence on a course or on our memory. #lrnchat
sueprendo #lrnchat
brunowinck A2) Build the learning in inobstrusive way : hints, affordance larger at the beginning, simplified + progressive exposure #LrnChat
DanHirtEsq heard a story today of a book written only in emojis and other pictograms. neat! #lrnchat
CandiceCPLP A2) if based on performance, a task analysis does a lot of the work for you. #lrnchat
MCFraserElvira A2) #lrnchat User-friendly and intuitive. Never needed a job aid for Twitter…
urbie #lrnchat A2 google the question?
write2tg A2) Intuitive design, simple interface, easy to navigate #lrnchat
Learning_Dude A2) Be ruthlessly critical of initial designs. You can’t break perfection out of a mold, you have to chip, chisel and polish. #lrnchat
kregerck RT @MattGuyan: Q2 simple design, not complex #lrnchat
CandiceCPLP RT @write2tg: A2) People should not be expected to learn how to use a ‘system’ that helps them learn something else. #lrnchat
adkpiper A2 Consider whether the flexibility of complexity is worth the cost in users’ learning effort and time. If not, simplify. #lrnchat
MattGuyan RT @MCFraserElvira: A2) #lrnchat User-friendly and intuitive. Never needed a job aid for Twitter…
abahr08 A2) Use something that people are already familiar with #lrnchat
RobynKraus RT @adkpiper: Q2 Watch ppl using existing systems, see where they fail, and design systems that work properly in those cases. Do what’s exp…
brunowinck A2) sometimes it can go as far as redesigning the use case , even ahead of features => benefits of prototypes #LrnChat
JaneBozarth @trishuhl @shackletonjones according to R Kelly’s longitudinal study it has changed. #lrnchat
willconstantine Q2) I use the term UX/UI loosely and not always related to tech #lrnchat
kregerck RT @adkpiper: Q2 Watch ppl using existing systems, see where they fail, and design systems that work properly in those cases. Do what’s exp…
write2tg RT @adkpiper: Q2 Watch ppl using existing systems, see where they fail, and design systems that work properly in those cases. Do what’s exp…
trishuhl Q1) @lrnchat @shackletonjones Used to have2 memorize Tube map, prior to smartphone or paper – but memorization was never “learning” #lrnchat
JaneBozarth @brunowinck why build learning? Skip learning. #lrnchat
JaneBozarth RT @Learning_Dude: A2) Be ruthlessly critical of initial designs. You can’t break perfection out of a mold, you have to chip, chisel and po…
sueprendo Use something they already know? Make it simple and clean. Follow UX And graphic design principles #lrnchat
JaneBozarth @urbie there you go… #lrnchat
willconstantine Q2) embedded PS but not having to say that the system is PS…it just is #lrnchat
RobynKraus A2) End-user testing. Don’t make assumptions. Lots of iterations to get it right. #lrnchat
brunowinck @JaneBozarth sorry build applies to what should be learned not he learning itself (example gps, apple) #LrnChat
odguru A2) invisible design principles leap to mind https://t.co/w3DbKiWMlW. watch where people walk and build the path #lrnchat
theASIDEblog There is a difference between learning and finding. #lrnchat
write2tg RT @MCFraserElvira: A2) #lrnchat User-friendly and intuitive. Never needed a job aid for Twitter…
trishuhl EXACTLY! We never learned those things — we memorized them Carried in our heads instead of our pockets #lrnchat https://t.co/5CkVyKvcHM
kelly_smith01 Q2) Have all job levels contribute to design – see Gawande’s Checklist Manifesto #lrnchat (surgery pre-check)
willconstantine Q2) Sometimes the system is there but it is just broken and missing the piece #lrnchat
jyoti__gupta a3) tradeoff = doing too much for people leads to lack of innovation – doesn’t force people to tinker with it #lrnchat
JaneBozarth RT @willconstantine: Q2) I use the term UX/UI loosely and not always related to tech #lrnchat
JaneBozarth RT @MCFraserElvira: A2) #lrnchat User-friendly and intuitive. Never needed a job aid for Twitter…
DanHirtEsq for every assumption…you shall be thwacked in the ear. #lrnchat https://t.co/dZjdWq4Fqu
JaneBozarth RT @adkpiper: Q2 Watch ppl using existing systems, see where they fail, and design systems that work properly in those cases. Do what’s exp…
kregerck RT @Learning_Dude: A2) Be ruthlessly critical of initial designs. You can’t break perfection out of a mold, you have to chip, chisel and po…
adkpiper @kelly_smith01 I wanted to like Gawande’s Checklist Manifesto book more than I did. #lrnchat
learningmark a2) be a concierge, rather than a ‘tour starts in five minutes’ guide #lrnchat
edrevONLINE A2)Use systems that are already familiar #lrnchat
visualrinse A2) @lrnchat user centered design #lrnchat
willconstantine Going to make a quick Shrikand #lrnchat
sueprendo #lrnchat also, make it easy to explore and difficult to break… q2
theASIDEblog We should not dwell on items that can be Googled in learning. That’s finding. #lrnchat
kregerck RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Have all job levels contribute to design – see Gawande’s Checklist Manifesto #lrnchat (surgery pre-check)
JaneBozarth @adkpiper YES THAT #lrnchat
lrnchat Q3) What does “expertise” look like in a system where learning has been eliminated from the design? #lrnchat
DanHirtEsq RT @lrnchat: Q3) What does “expertise” look like in a system where learning has been eliminated from the design? #lrnchat
write2tg You make me miss Indian food every time we chat! RT @willconstantine: Going to make a quick Shrikand #lrnchat
JaneBozarth @adkpiper @kelly_smith01 me too. my least favorite of his #lrnchat
write2tg RT @lrnchat: Q3) What does “expertise” look like in a system where learning has been eliminated from the design? #lrnchat
JeremyDBond .@MCFraserElvira Yet when Twitter doesn’t work right we have little recourse. So a tradeoff is a limited ability to adapt. #lrnchat
DanHirtEsq a3) super speed? #lrnchat
CandiceCPLP @theASIDEblog Indeed! #lrnchat
learningmark RT @lrnchat: Q3) What does “expertise” look like in a system where learning has been eliminated from the design? #lrnchat
JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q3) What does “expertise” look like in a system where learning has been eliminated from the design? #lrnchat
InfographicsIts RT @sueprendo: Job aids, infographics, mobile apps, talking to peers? #lrnchat https://t.co/1FBjJvNue5
adkpiper @JaneBozarth @kelly_smith01 It seemed like a 200 page book with about 12 pages of ideas. They were good ideas! But still. #lrnchat
trishuhl .@JaneBozarth @shackletonjones Learning has changed in that we no longer have to memorize / store ref material to take it w us? #lrnchat
InfographicsIts RT @urbie: #lrnchat A1 How about those infographics, like this one http://t.co/6dp3DGoud6
visualrinse RT @RobynKraus: A2) End-user testing. Don’t make assumptions. Lots of iterations to get it right. #lrnchat
urbie RT @lrnchat: Q3) What does “expertise” look like in a system where learning has been eliminated from the design? #lrnchat
JaneBozarth RT @theASIDEblog: We should not dwell on items that can be Googled in learning. That’s finding. #lrnchat
kregerck RT @lrnchat: Q3) What does “expertise” look like in a system where learning has been eliminated from the design? #lrnchat
kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q3) What does “expertise” look like in a system where learning has been eliminated from the design? #lrnchat
theASIDEblog Online knowledge is not a user’s knowledge. There’s nothing committed to memory or understanding; it’s good searching. #lrnchat
urbie #lrnchat A2 Sketchnote a lecture then share with your learners?
JaneBozarth @trishuhl @shackletonjones discussion on this in the prereading — #lrnchat
odguru A3) Expertise and experince that has come at a price and can be presented in context. #lrnchat
sueprendo Problem solving and critical thinking – thinking in a more strategic way. More freedom to be creative #lrnchat https://t.co/0LUe40URIc
MrKMaston @lrnchat A3) User advocacy or evangelism #lrnchat
MattGuyan A3 Everyone would be the expert #lrnchat
MCFraserElvira A3) Need to know how to fish #lrnchat
CandiceCPLP Q3) Wikipedia #lrnchat
urbie #lrnchat A3 Messy.
learndrops A3: To what extent are you an expert, if you are device dependent? If never learned & can’t it on your own? #lrnchat https://t.co/GOsYuQmxES
edrevONLINE A3) Expertise = expansion. Take what’s there to make connections and expand #lrnchat
adkpiper A3 Expertise stops being as relevant a concept. Think about stick shift vs. automatic transmission cars. #lrnchat
visualrinse A3) speed, accuracy, lack of error or defect, reduced safety issues. Better results. #lrnchat
DanHirtEsq a3) single handed operation? or NO handed?!? “it can’t be done!” #lrnchat
kregerck a3) Knowing how to blend finding/using of resources and tools into the daily work. Modeling for others. #lrnchat
jyoti__gupta #a3) tall tales – thinking of filling out taxes – should be straightforward, but it’s not — leads to a lot of “i heard… ” #lrnchat
JaneBozarth Is @visualrinse in the house? #lrnchat
MCFraserElvira @JeremyDBond #lrnchat For the end-user or for the tech team?
JeremyDBond A3) Doing. To continue the Twitter example, people who don’t use it think I’m some sort of expert. #lrnchat
CandiceCPLP Q3) seriously, lots of granularity and crowd sources #lrnchat
learningmark a3) expertise = ‘help on call’, not ‘lecture hall’ #lrnchat
trishuhl .@JaneBozarth @shackletonjones I’m missing connection EZ access 2 resources changd how we train/teach but not learning process -no? #lrnchat
learndrops A3b: If you use the reference (subway map) enough, you do in fact learn it. Stop needing it. #lrnchat
write2tg A3) Expertise means the ability to move to interdependence. #lrnchat
urbie #lrnchat A3 I suppose expertise goes the way of the do-do so long as there’s a pictograph for every possible eventuality.
abahr08 A3) Everyone has a chance of learning something new and are able to learn different perspectives from different individuals #lrnchat
odguru RT @visualrinse: A3) speed, accuracy, lack of error or defect, reduced safety issues. Better results. #lrnchat
kelly_smith01 @JaneBozarth Sometimes Gawande suffers from being the “expert” for the world on some topics #lrnchat
audioswhite A2) intuitive minimal systems that can be represented graphically or simply to guide to deeper resources #lrnchat
opurt11 Q3) Expertise might be the same, but will take longer to get there. #lrnchat
trishuhl .@JaneBozarth @shackletonjones I read the pre-reading. Didn’t see this depth. #lrnchat
visualrinse RT @trishuhl: .@JaneBozarth @shackletonjones Learning has changed in that we no longer have to memorize / store ref material to take it w u…
JaneBozarth @visualrinse examples of systems that don’t require ‘learning’ to use? #lrnchat
CandiceCPLP A3) expertise is expensive. Most co.s don’t want to pay for it #lrnchat
kregerck RT @write2tg: A3) Expertise means the ability to move to interdependence. #lrnchat
write2tg RT @kregerck: a3) Knowing how to blend finding/using of resources and tools into the daily work. Modeling for others. #lrnchat
willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q3) What does “expertise” look like in a system where learning has been eliminated from the design? #lrnchat
urbie #lrnchat A3 It’s been a while since I was in a McDonald’s.. those registers with pictures of items, does it make order-takers experts?
StyleLearn A3) What does failure look like? #lrnchat
willconstantine RT @visualrinse: A3) speed, accuracy, lack of error or defect, reduced safety issues. Better results. #lrnchat
learndrops A3c: Seems like eliminating up front formal learning may be more of way to help expedite performance, not eliminate learning. #lrnchat
DanHirtEsq all pictures?…ruh-roh…#lrnchat http://t.co/JPte7EU01s
jbernoff RT @theASIDEblog: We should not dwell on items that can be Googled in learning. That’s finding. #lrnchat
kregerck A3) Mentoring. Point of need contact. Answer questions. #lrnchat
visualrinse @JaneBozarth coffee machines! A new automatic transmission on your next car. Basic operations on remote controls. #designpatterns #lrnchat
JaneBozarth RT @willconstantine Q2) embedded PS but not having to say that the system is PS…it just is #lrnchat
willconstantine Q3) expertise is not burning a meal #lrnchat
JaneBozarth RT @visualrinse: @JaneBozarth coffee machines! A new automatic transmission on your next car. Basic operations on remote controls. #designp…
MrKMaston RT @MattGuyan: A3 Everyone would be the expert #lrnchat
kelly_smith01 Q3) If you don’t have “experts” you will not have people kidnapping or hoarding information #lrnchat
sobith Q3) Expertise will be access to information #lrnchat
MCFraserElvira @JeremyDBond SoMe = Magic #lrnchat
urbie #lrnchat A3 When does learning become reflex? What about that human tendency towards lazy learners? http://t.co/4152n0hIiJ
theASIDEblog Expertise is not about location of information; it’s knowing the information. #lrnchat
write2tg A3) The purpose of most job-aids I have seen is to standardize behavior and ensure consistency. Expertise is not an outcome. #lrnchat
adkpiper A3 I think part of the job of systems design is to reduce the size of the gap between experts and beginners. Obviate expertise. #lrnchat
DanHirtEsq good god, can you imagine? that’d be wonderful. #lrnchat https://t.co/hyENhWjvNl
JeremyDBond @MCFraserElvira the user. #lrnchat
odguru RT @DanHirtEsq: all pictures?…ruh-roh…#lrnchat http://t.co/JPte7EU01s
trishuhl q2) @lrnchat People still have to learn the system — if you need them to internalize, execute, apply the process – that’s LEARNING #lrnchat
edrevONLINE A3) Ref the tube map. An expert will know which connections need to be made to get somewhere will learn to not need the tool. #lrnchat
kelly_smith01 @adkpiper I liked his detailed listing of references. #lrnchat
willconstantine Q3) walking (for most people) #lrnchat
trishuhl Q2) @lrnchat Sounds like we’re confusing the tool we call “training” with the process that is “learning” #lrnchat
jyoti__gupta @kelly_smith01 interesting perspective tho some experts genuinely care to share the (knowledge) wealth. #lrnchat
write2tg A3) Expertise has to be built within the design – Here’s the best way to do it and everyone now does it this way. #lrnchat
StyleLearn A3) Information systems distribute expertise. Learning is what we want to happen so why eliminate it? #lrnchat
brunowinck Good point, like reading a blog while cooking => distracted => burn RT @willconstantine: Q3) expertise is not burning a meal #lrnchat
bschlenker One reason we have jobs is because software designers aren’t very good at theirs. #lrnchat
urbie @write2tg #lrnchat i like job-aids the practitioners produce.. home-grown performance support can rock.
trainersleaders RT @trishuhl: Q2) @lrnchat Sounds like we’re confusing the tool we call “training” with the process that is “learning” #lrnchat
kregerck What if your expertise is knowing where to find the information…asks the librarian? :) #lrnchat https://t.co/u2l8gpDmtb
willconstantine Q3) there is learning in using the system but it is a process, could be shorter or longer depending on the curve ~ #lrnchat
JaneBozarth Um… THere aren’t any ‘learners’ if no one has to learn the thing #lrnchat
StyleLearn RT @trishuhl: q2) @lrnchat People still have to learn the system — if you need them to internalize, execute, apply the process – that’s LE…
urbie RT @kregerck: What if your expertise is knowing where to find the information…asks the librarian? :) #lrnchat https://t.co/u2l8gpDmtb
trishuhl Q2) @lrnchat Just because neither 8 yr old or 80 yr old needs instruction or training to use iPad they still LEARNED how to use it #lrnchat
sobith @write2tg true! Mapping the outcome will help focus on the skills for expertise #lrnchat
brunowinck Understood RT @bschlenker: One reason we have jobs is because software designers aren’t very good at theirs. #lrnchat
DanHirtEsq BAHAHAHAH oh man, you got me on that one #lrnchat https://t.co/ME6uSHJd7Q
abahr08 With expertise though don’t you still have to be learning? so shouldn’t there be some level of expertise in a field? #lrnchat
brunowinck @JaneBozarth learning still take place if only to internalize habits it’s just firctionless #LrnChat
visualrinse . @JaneBozarth most can operate Twitter without instructions – learn by observing, doing, trying, exploring #lrnchat
jyoti__gupta @StyleLearn I would love for robots and such to eliminate my need to know housework. there r things I don’t want to know #lrnchat
RobynKraus A3) Do we need “expertise”? A person who knows ALL the tube stops? Or do they just need 2 know how to get from here to there? #lrnchat
kregerck RT @trishuhl: Q2) @lrnchat Just because neither 8 yr old or 80 yr old needs instruction or training to use iPad they still LEARNED how to u…
adkpiper Nobody’s saying to totally ditch learning.

But learning capacity is a really scarce resource; why spend it unnecessarily? #lrnchat

JaneBozarth @brunowinck ok so what are some examples of systems that require minimal learning, and how can we design more? #lrnchat
brunowinck @visualrinse reason why Twitter has now a 5 screen onboarding tunnel? @JaneBozarth #LrnChat
write2tg @urbie Yes, I agree. Practitioners know and recognize what will be used easily.#lrnchat
sobith @JaneBozarth yes! We need to know what the real thing is. #outcomes #lrnchat
lrnchat Q4) What things other than learning can improve performance? #lrnchat
sueprendo Learning = problem solving and innovation. and being an expert means things that a non-expert finds difficult, become automatic #lrnchat
urbie RT @lrnchat: Q4) What things other than learning can improve performance? #lrnchat
write2tg RT @lrnchat: Q4) What things other than learning can improve performance? #lrnchat
JaneBozarth @trishuhl ok how can we design more/better systems that minimize that? #lrnchat
learndrops #lrnchat Agree. Expertise for me implies internalization of the learning. https://t.co/wp7tuJbgLG
CandiceCPLP “ most can operate Twitter without instructions – learn by observing, doing, trying, exploring #lrnchat” that’s experiential learning
visualrinse The training industry really is a big workaround for bad hires, processes and tools. Build better work environments and reduce it. #lrnchat
JeremyDBond .@learndrops Learning can focus on big-picture things–like collaborative & facilitation skills–rather than the technical things. #lrnchat
opurt11 Q4) Proper experience improves performance, provided you, uh, learned to do it correctly in the first place. #lrnchat
trishuhl q3) “Expert” implies application, experience, wisdom > not simply a knowledge savant To be expert means some ability not recitation #lrnchat
sueprendo And then when things are automatic, you can use your brain power to focus on the tougher problems or creative goals #lrnchat
DanHirtEsq @adkpiper I have a feeling @shackletonjones is hinting at it #lrnchat
learningmark RT @lrnchat: Q4) What things other than learning can improve performance? #lrnchat
CandiceCPLP A4) Practice! #lrnchat
urbie #lrnchat A4 A really bad outcome (Titanic hitting an iceberg) can improve safe sailing. Like how the NTSB investigates and recommends.
DanHirtEsq RT @lrnchat: Q4) What things other than learning can improve performance? #lrnchat
kregerck RT @lrnchat: Q4) What things other than learning can improve performance? #lrnchat
JaneBozarth RT @visualrinse: The training industry really is a big workaround for bad hires, processes and tools. Build better work environments and re…
write2tg A4) Experience, Failure, Collaboration with others, Feedback, Mentors – all improve performance #lrnchat
jyoti__gupta @StyleLearn Same thing. Any admin-y task that can be automated is good. I don’t want to know how my expense report gets paid. #lrnchat
JaneBozarth @visualrinse amen. #lrnchat
trishuhl Q3) @willconstantine Although, someone w nerve disorder eg Parkinson’s needs expert occ therapist to learn new walking gait #lrnchat
brunowinck @JaneBozarth IMO it’s heavily related to the very early design: reuse paradigm, add unconscious kaizen learning inside operation #LrnChat
RobynKraus Yes! Teaching the wrong way is as bad as not teaching at all! #lrnchat https://t.co/MTyraHRCo4
kregerck A4) Motivation for doing the job. Passion. #lrnchat
JaneBozarth RT @audioswhite: A3) well, eliminating the learning burden in this context means expertise is not required to “operate” or “do” ie charts v…
JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q4) What things other than learning can improve performance? #lrnchat
brunowinck Taking example of Twitter : new features on some users, then sometimes, then more often, then remove old one etc #LrnChat
sobith RT @write2tg: A4) Experience, Failure, Collaboration with others, Feedback, Mentors – all improve performance #lrnchat
kregerck RT @sueprendo: And then when things are automatic, you can use your brain power to focus on the tougher problems or creative goals #lrnchat
learningmark a4) 3 things improve performance: learning, process, motivation. Fix whatever is lacking. #lrnchat
kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q4) What things other than learning can improve performance? #lrnchat
kregerck RT @visualrinse: The training industry really is a big workaround for bad hires, processes and tools. Build better work environments and re…
duchampian A4) great design. simple, elegant, intuitive #lrnchat
urbie #lrnchat These are hard questions.
kregerck RT @CandiceCPLP: “ most can operate Twitter without instructions – learn by observing, doing, trying, exploring #lrnchat” that’s experienti…
learndrops #lrnchat Yes. Making things simple to use can allow people to get to core activities faster, but still need learning https://t.co/EyGxVS2Wsl
MrKMaston @lrnchat A4) Motivation, goals, value, capability… and for some, coffee. #lrnchat
JaneBozarth RT @duchampian: A4) great design. simple, elegant, intuitive #lrnchat
DanHirtEsq a4) removing anything that not value-added #lrnchat
trishuhl .@JaneBozarth Atunement and empathy Apple didn’t just stumble onto intuitive UI They designed for ease and habit :) #lrnchat
abahr08 A4) Teambuilding, involvement in the organization and allowing for input within the company #lrnchat
jyoti__gupta a4) bio-aids – like steroids and meditation – improve the person so performance can improve #lrnchat
urbie #lrnchat A4 Improve performance? Like getting something done quicker, safer, efficiently? Automate it.
visualrinse A4) thoughtful play, reflective thought, mindful observation. If that doesn’t help, try Redbull. #lrnchat
kelly_smith01 Q4) Sharing of ideas/stories before, during, and after. #lrnchat
adkpiper brb #lrnchat
write2tg RT @visualrinse: A4) thoughtful play, reflective thought, mindful observation. If that doesn’t help, try Redbull. #lrnchat
DanHirtEsq reptition #lrnchat
edrevONLINE A4) Discovery and exploration expand performance. Give people a chance to “play” and you will see greater results. @kckatalyst #lrnchat
CandiceCPLP A4) get back to adult learning– impact, belonging, etc #lrnchat
learndrops #lrnchat Q4a: Well-designed highly convenient references (wiki, documentation, job aids). https://t.co/TpC3R6cvpl
sobith RT @kelly_smith01: Q4) Sharing of ideas/stories before, during, and after. #lrnchat
trishuhl .@JaneBozarth “Design of Every Day Things” gets into science of design How ingrained conventions are in us Those are known, charted #lrnchat
odguru @visualrinse So many performance issues are wrong person/wrong seat on the bus. #lrnchat. U r a flower, but we will train u to be a shrub.
JaneBozarth Like for instance tonight when @tweetchat failed (again) I didn’t have to “learn” @twubs… #lrnchat
JaneBozarth RT @trishuhl: .@JaneBozarth “Design of Every Day Things” gets into science of design How ingrained conventions are in us Those are known, c…
RobynKraus RT @trishuhl: .@JaneBozarth Atunement and empathy Apple didn’t just stumble onto intuitive UI They designed for ease and habit :) #lrnchat
write2tg A4)Observing, exploring, engaging, participating impact performance #lrnchat
sueprendo #lrnchat first you have to make sure that the learning or performance support is solving the performance problem https://t.co/Tc33KCZDe7
StyleLearn @jyoti__gupta That’s great but, how realistic? I love automation but, expense reports don’t affect performance thou #lrnchat
lrnchat Q5) Should we build sat-nav/GPS like systems for everything? Eliminate learning from everything? Why/Why not? #lrnchat
JaneBozarth @learningmark :-) #lrnchat
learndrops #lrnchat A4b: Social network structure with tags for specialization, so can IM to get quick help.
trishuhl .@JaneBozarth It’s why when intuitively push a door and find we have to pull to open frustrates us Door design broke convention #lrnchat
CandiceCPLP “Give people a chance to “play” and you will see greater results. @kckatalyst #lrnchat” > There it is: Gamification!
urbie #lrnchat A4 The thing with learning this way, job-aiding away, is it requires a high functioning person to use. Reading skills for example.
write2tg RT @lrnchat: Q5) Should we build sat-nav/GPS like systems for everything? Eliminate learning from everything? Why/Why not? #lrnchat
JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q5) Should we build sat-nav/GPS like systems for everything? Eliminate learning from everything? Why/Why not? #lrnchat
duchampian A4) I hate to get all Kirkpatrick up in here but, assessing a system’s effectiveness and inefficiency makes a better loop #lrnchat
JeremyDBond @CandiceCPLP exactly. And that’s a type of learning. #lrnchat
sobith @JaneBozarth @TweetChat @twubs transfer of learning #lrnchat
edrevONLINE @urbie Reading skills = high functioning? :) I must some kinda expert #lrnchat
sueprendo #lrnchat surely this approach is subject matter dependent. Where’s the practice? Safe failure? https://t.co/RxuzTu2yQo
opurt11 Q5) What will people do when the human-built system fails? #lrnchat
odguru Q4) Incubators and experiments so people can try stuff out with some hands on support and see what happens. #lrnchat
learningmark RT @lrnchat: Q5) Should we build sat-nav/GPS like systems for everything? Eliminate learning from everything? Why/Why not? #lrnchat
StyleLearn Treat adult learners as adults, stop asking for acknowledgement of training completion #lrnchat
jyoti__gupta @StyleLearn It’s realistic to me – it removes noise. Allows me to concentrate on my real job. #lrnchat
JD_Dillon Popping in to say howdy to the #lrnchat crew! Sorry to miss but it’s hockey night. Hope to cya in a week+ at #ATD2015!
audioswhite Typing slow tonight… A3 & 4 removing learning from “operating” opens the door for deeper learning or exploration #lrnchat
urbie #lrnchat A4 It’s like that quote about standing on the shoulders of giants. Handing a job aid to a baby yields 0 performance improvement.
kregerck RT @lrnchat: Q5) Should we build sat-nav/GPS like systems for everything? Eliminate learning from everything? Why/Why not? #lrnchat
learndrops RT @sueprendo: #lrnchat first you have to make sure that the learning or performance support is solving the performance problem https://t.c…
trishuhl .@JeremyDBond @lrnchat Yes! “Training delivery” is expert download of content Used to be main tool in edu n corp learning toolbox #lrnchat
willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q5) Should we build sat-nav/GPS like systems for everything? Eliminate learning from everything? Why/Why not? #lrnchat
MattGuyan Q5 do we need learning to keep our brains active? #lrnchat
JeremyDBond A5) Self-reflection. Self-awareness: I have room to improve. #lrnchat
kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q5) Should we build sat-nav/GPS like systems for everything? Eliminate learning from everything? Why/Why not? #lrnchat
JaneBozarth @duchampian lol tweet of the night #lrnchat
JaneBozarth RT @CandiceCPLP: “Give people a chance to “play” and you will see greater results. @kckatalyst #lrnchat” > There it is: Gamification!
adkpiper A5 I think learning is satisfying for some adults, and there are some systems we can’t design to function autonomously. #lrnchat
opurt11 Q5) We shouldn’t, b/c learning is in our nature. Figure out how to best work with our innate abilities, not circumvent them. #lrnchat
visualrinse @trishuhl @JaneBozarth you should come to my workshop on UI design at mlearncon! #lrnchat
JaneBozarth @urbie there we go again.. #lrnchat
DanHirtEsq RT @lrnchat: Q5) Should we build sat-nav/GPS like systems for everything? Eliminate learning from everything? Why/Why not? #lrnchat
urbie @edrevonline #lrnchat It took me a while (ask @JaneBozarth) to use social media well and I had TONS of pictographs to ‘learn’ from
abahr08 @odguru @visualrinse What are some ways that we can get around these issues? #lrnchat
willconstantine Q5) When you start to rely on technology you lose human ability. “I don’t know how I got here my GPS told me how” #lrnchat
trishuhl People learned things by rite and stored up info in their memory ‘cuz they had to take it w them #lrnchat https://t.co/94Etvg6epM
adkpiper It’s more a philosophical stance: ask learning systems to justify *why* it’s important to have learning be a part of their use. #lrnchat
DanSpira RT @lrnchat: Q4) What things other than learning can improve performance? #lrnchat
StyleLearn @jyoti__gupta I wonder how Google does expense reports LOL #lrnchat
duchampian A5) I’ve been told I need to “strap a GPS to my ass”, the day might come. Just sayin’. #lrnchat
JaneBozarth @visualrinse @trishuhl I gotta be in Vancouver. #burden #lrnchat
DanHirtEsq We should not. I present my case: Idiocracy #lrnchat
write2tg A5) Learning is satisfying. Does reading a map or listening to GPS ever make you feel that you accomplished something. #lrnchat
willconstantine @JD_Dillon see you soon :-) #lrnchat
urbie RT @lrnchat: Q5) Should we build sat-nav/GPS like systems for everything? Eliminate learning from everything? Why/Why not? #lrnchat
learndrops #lrnchat A5a: Not for everything. We need to be able to think outside the box. Innovate. Create. https://t.co/vQndDCvxZI
JaneBozarth RT @adkpiper: It’s more a philosophical stance: ask learning systems to justify *why* it’s important to have learning be a part of their us…
trishuhl Now we need to learn -deeply -and unlearn / relearn And terabytes of info we can put in pocket for lookup #lrnchat https://t.co/94Etvg6epM
sueprendo I think it’s more realistic to say “eliminate poorly designed, aligned and delivered training” #lrnchat
theASIDEblog @kregerck Agreed. Librarians don’t have to know anything, but it’s more than finding. It’s about evaluating what they find. #lrnchat
kelly_smith01 Q5) Learning can provide examples of rare or unique situations which differ from day2day performance #lrnchat
brunowinck A5) depends on type of learning but learning design, coding, foreign languages without learning ? I doubt #lrnchat
jyoti__gupta #lrnchat a5) it’s coming! AI will help us with everything, including learning and will give rise to “personalized learning”. I welcome it.
JaneBozarth @JeremyDBond well that’d be a start. #lrnchat
learndrops #lrnchat A5b: Sat-nav puts you in follow-directions mode. Not explorer mode. Not creator mode.
edrevONLINE @learndrops I agree. Automation works opposite of innovation. (though I do love my Waze in traffic) #lrnchat
write2tg RT @sueprendo: I think it’s more realistic to say “eliminate poorly designed, aligned and delivered training” #lrnchat
odguru Q5) Really, this is how I would like to get all future knowledge. Anyone written code for that? https://t.co/spDoOURV6Z #lrnchat
learningmark a5) GPS shows where the restaurants are. Still need recommendations for which is good one. #lrnchat
coachnikibray RT @StyleLearn: Treat adult learners as adults, stop asking for acknowledgement of training completion #lrnchat
RobynKraus Agreed! You can spend time learning things of value when simple things don’t require so much brain-power! #lrnchat https://t.co/tMBlt7pX4W
visualrinse A5) it’s never good to speak in absolutes. #seewhatididthere #lrnchat
urbie #lrnchat A5 Who designs the aids? Is there an aid for that?
trishuhl It should be required reading! Helps us see how form follows function and how enslaved to form we are! #lrnchat https://t.co/yPj8lnzbKT
kregerck A5) Machines can break. May need to know how to do http://t.co/EPuZGsg4z9 to get things done with the Internet is down! #lrnchat
abahr08 A5 People are going to have to learn something no matter what with or without the navigation system in place it makes no difference #lrnchat
JaneBozarth RT @jyoti__gupta: #lrnchat a5) it’s coming! AI will help us with everything, including learning and will give rise to “personalized learni…
urbie RT @kregerck: A5) Machines can break. May need to know how to do http://t.co/EPuZGsg4z9 to get things done with the Internet is down! #lrnc…
sobith Q5) focus only on the needs aka outcomes to perform on the job; remove stuffs that overload learning #lrnchat
visualrinse RT @trishuhl: .@JaneBozarth “Design of Every Day Things” gets into science of design How ingrained conventions are in us Those are known, c…
JeremyDBond A5) The personal skills that are most important to learn can’t be gained by something that does it for you. Tech only facilitates. #lrnchat
duchampian @JaneBozarth yay!! And… yay!! I guess that justifies my wearing a tiara during #lrnchat (tonight).
learndrops #lrnchat Agree. A time and a place for everything. But fundamentally learning / ability to learn is critical. https://t.co/G4flbXi4iF
write2tg A5) Learning is important to innovate but it is intensive. We must Choose what to learn and where apps and maps are more useful. #lrnchat
brunowinck @write2tg you rejoin my response to @visualrinse on weather reports, maps, or timetables #lrnchat
kregerck RT @urbie: #lrnchat A5 Who designs the aids? Is there an aid for that?
DanHirtEsq Some processes don’t lend themselves to a point-and-click system. #lrnchat
lrnchat Q6) In a world of learning machines, what will learning look like in the future? #lrnchat
JaneBozarth Self-driving freightliners are on the road now http://t.co/mgL9qxcVgq #lrnchat
learndrops RT @JeremyDBond: A5) The personal skills that are most important to learn can’t be gained by something that does it for you. Tech only faci…
edrevONLINE @learningmark +1 but Yelp seems less reliable these days #lrnchat
CaveoLearning 10 Tips for Engaging #Millennials Through #Learning & Development http://t.co/uMZTZQSoN9 #atd #training #lrnchat http://t.co/EqTKgdwgvA
kregerck RT @learndrops: #lrnchat A5b: Sat-nav puts you in follow-directions mode. Not explorer mode. Not creator mode.
sueprendo We learn by exploring, trying, asking, failing, listening to stories. our “training” and performance solutions should mirror that #lrnchat
JaneBozarth @duchampian yes! #lrnchat
learndrops RT @kregerck: A5) Machines can break. May need to know how to do http://t.co/EPuZGsg4z9 to get things done with the Internet is down! #lrnc…
JaneBozarth RT @duchampian: @JaneBozarth yay!! And… yay!! I guess that justifies my wearing a tiara during #lrnchat (tonight).
urbie #lrnchat A5 I think maybe DC Metro went that route. That’s why so many escalators are broke all the time.
willconstantine @trishuhl :-( Now I feel insensitive #lrnchat
audioswhite A5 see, I think removing learning from things that shouldn’t require learning in the first place is key. #lrnchat
JonCampbell66 RT @visualrinse: A5) it’s never good to speak in absolutes. #seewhatididthere #lrnchat
kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q6) In a world of learning machines, what will learning look like in the future? #lrnchat
CandiceCPLP A6) learning to fix the machines, of course. #lrnchat
willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q6) In a world of learning machines, what will learning look like in the future? #lrnchat
JaneBozarth @kregerck people break more. #lrnchat
urbie RT @lrnchat: Q6) In a world of learning machines, what will learning look like in the future? #lrnchat
opurt11 Q6) We will spend more time thinking creatively than critically. #lrnchat
trishuhl Would love to! I used 2do UI n usability 4software dev in 90s Not just aesthetics – playing on user habit #lrnchat https://t.co/zJKveeU9PE
edrevONLINE A6) The machines aren’t actually learning but following what we’ve told them. #lrnchat
StyleLearn A5) Eliminate training is much better for this case, we learn something every day whether we realize it or not #lrnchat
urbie #lrnchat A6 Shiny?
write2tg RT @lrnchat: Q6) In a world of learning machines, what will learning look like in the future? #lrnchat
DanHirtEsq a5) a simpler design is cheaper than compensentory devices #lrnchat
learndrops #lrnchat That does create a conundrum! https://t.co/rMrAv6uNFI
JaneBozarth RT @audioswhite: A5 see, I think removing learning from things that shouldn’t require learning in the first place is key. #lrnchat
JaneBozarth @audioswhite yep #lrnchat
kregerck RT @lrnchat: Q6) In a world of learning machines, what will learning look like in the future? #lrnchat
kregerck RT @write2tg: A5) Learning is important to innovate but it is intensive. We must Choose what to learn and where apps and maps are more use…
JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q6) In a world of learning machines, what will learning look like in the future? #lrnchat
visualrinse You might have a problem when you build training on how to use your training/lms/job aids/mobile learning app. #lrnchat #youredoingitwrong
learningmark RT @lrnchat: Q6) In a world of learning machines, what will learning look like in the future? #lrnchat
JaneBozarth @DanHirtEsq yet #lrnchat
audioswhite RT @CandiceCPLP: A6) learning to fix the machines, of course. #lrnchat
willconstantine Q6) accessible and in demand, the mediums in which/how we learn will change. #lrnchat
trishuhl Oh no! Did not mean that! You are right – we learned to walk on our own But even something … #lrnchat https://t.co/qbl8k6me0Q
sobith RT @lrnchat: Q6) In a world of learning machines, what will learning look like in the future? #lrnchat
write2tg A6) Learning will look like a lot of different things. As long as it feels the same as always, I am game :) #lrnchat
sueprendo #lrnchat more social, even if it’s through online interactions. The collective brain will lead to major innovation https://t.co/F22tbTzwtD
DanHirtEsq a6) so. many. beveled. edges. #lrnchat
JaneBozarth @learndrops @urbie Snapguide #lrnchat
adkpiper A6 We’ll still learn, but more of our effort can go toward high-level tasks. Think of da Vinci surgical robots vs. surgery by hand. #lrnchat
kelly_smith01 Q6) Hopefully, learning will integrate into the job performance with performance support or job design #lrnchat
brunowinck @JaneBozarth never understood what took so long , people just want to be in control of their car even at the cost of learning #lrnchat
RobynKraus Couldn’t have said that better myself! :-) #lrnchat https://t.co/dsesArebew
terrylgoins RT @CaveoLearning: 10 Tips for Engaging #Millennials Through #Learning & Development http://t.co/uMZTZQSoN9 #atd #training #lrnchat http://…
visualrinse RT @DanHirtEsq: a5) a simpler design is cheaper than compensentory devices #lrnchat
visualrinse RT @StyleLearn: A5) Eliminate training is much better for this case, we learn something every day whether we realize it or not #lrnchat
theASIDEblog @kregerck You bet! :) #lrnchat
JaneBozarth @sueprendo agreed #lrnchat
kelly_smith01 RT @willconstantine: Q6) accessible and in demand, the mediums in which/how we learn will change. #lrnchat
opurt11 Q6) We will learn what the machines predict we want. #lrnchat
kregerck RT @write2tg: A6) Learning will look like a lot of different things. As long as it feels the same as always, I am game :) #lrnchat
adkpiper No need to practice muscle memory and hand stillness—“just” learn what to do and the machine takes care of those parameters. #lrnchat
trishuhl … we learned intuitively via trial / error may require an expert and actual instruction … #lrnchat https://t.co/qbl8k6me0Q
DanHirtEsq I hate this answer, but…augmented reality. #lrnchat
learndrops #lrnchat A6a: Systems that can help analyze your current mastery level and help get to next level. To learn. https://t.co/U3vzkpxu4x
JaneBozarth @willconstantine i knew what you meant #lrnchat
willconstantine @trishuhl Interesting. see how technology can misconstrue human contact. :-) #lrnchat
trishuhl … Like relearning how to walk due to illness or injury #lrnchat https://t.co/qbl8k6me0Q
brunowinck I have the impression that most of the learning that could elminated is more a learning first imposed to us by machine and systems #lrnchat
learningmark A6) Tech provides access to info. People still give meaning, relevance, value. #lrnchat
odguru @DanHirtEsq Yes! When it is finally expressed more seamlessly, it will be less hateful #lrnchat
visualrinse A6) same as it ever did. Just faster, easier, safer, better outcomes. #lrnchat #greattastelessfilling
kregerck A6) Somehow I am envisioning holograms or computers in our brains anticipating any queston we may have and providing the answer. #lrnchat
visualrinse RT @JaneBozarth: Self-driving freightliners are on the road now http://t.co/mgL9qxcVgq #lrnchat
DanHirtEsq @odguru it better….#lrnchat
kregerck RT @brunowinck: I have the impression that most of the learning that could elminated is more a learning first imposed to us by machine and …
lrnchat Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
write2tg RT @kregerck: A6) Somehow I am envisioning holograms or computers in our brains anticipating any queston we may have and providing the answ…
write2tg RT @kregerck: A6) Somehow I am envisioning holograms or computers in our brains anticipating any queston we may have and providing the answ…
abahr08 A6) Hopefully, people not relying on search engines to learn #lrnchat
MrKMaston @lrnchat A6) Learning may be oriented towards cultural/sociological/philosophical conundrums as utility moves towards automation. #lrnchat
kregerck RT @DanHirtEsq: I hate this answer, but…augmented reality. #lrnchat
learndrops #lrnchat A6b: Systems that facilitate mastery, s.a. subway maps, allow infrequent users to gain performance quickly. .
brunowinck yes, it was a design weakness, lazyness to use learning for that, very 1970 mindset #lrnchat https://t.co/QHSANnNOQ3
trishuhl RT @visualrinse: A6) same as it ever did. Just faster, easier, safer, better outcomes. #lrnchat #greattastelessfilling
urbie #lrnchat A6 That thing about preparing kids for a future that doesn’t exist yet..
trishuhl RT @learningmark: A6) Tech provides access to info. People still give meaning, relevance, value. #lrnchat
willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
urbie RT @lrnchat: Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
sobith @lrnchat a6) humans learning from robots 😇 #lrnchat
JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
RobynKraus @DanHirtEsq Yes, still kinda scary, isn’t it? #lrnchat
jyoti__gupta a6) #lrnchat It looks good! Very personalized, tailored learning. I wrote about it here: https://t.co/FVcxwQsBuM
write2tg RT @lrnchat: Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
learningmark RT @lrnchat: Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
duchampian A6) “Ok Google… ” #lrnchat
DanHirtEsq a7) there are a SO. MANY. good looking people that hang out in #lrnchat
adkpiper A7 Today I learned that #lrnchat is not in unanimity about the definitions of “learning”, “training”, “education”, or “systems”. :)
audioswhite @brunowinck yes centuries worth #lrnchat
learndrops #lrnchat A6c: But to be a subway “master”, you have to be able to do it on your own.
JaneBozarth @adkpiper no kidding #lrnchat
sueprendo Less structured. Less being told what to do http://t.co/Re97pQ5O0n #lrnchat
jyoti__gupta a7) #lrnchat I learned more about the people in my Twitter PLN
JaneBozarth RT @DanHirtEsq: a7) there are a SO. MANY. good looking people that hang out in #lrnchat
urbie #lrnchat A7 What’d I learn tonight? That sometimes participating in twitter chats can hurt. Gonna have to do some serious reflection.
StyleLearn A6) You won’t have to ask the questions and we won’t have to answer them: The machines will. We would just play games all day. #lrnchat
JaneBozarth @DanHirtEsq truth #lrnchat
kregerck RT @urbie: #lrnchat A6 That thing about preparing kids for a future that doesn’t exist yet..
willconstantine Q7) Learned to make shrikand and that expertise is not so general in the sense of knowing everything but a piece of the puzzle #lrnchat
opurt11 Q7) In reconsidering the usefulness of training for any/all performance, we also need to question the need for learning. #lrnchat
sobith @lrnchat A7) we need to learn on how to learn and unlearn #lrnchat
adkpiper @urbie What do you mean, Urbie? Would you elaborate more? #lrnchat
kregerck RT @lrnchat: Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
bschlenker RT @visualrinse: A6) same as it ever did. Just faster, easier, safer, better outcomes. #lrnchat #greattastelessfilling
CandiceCPLP A7) I infer lots of different interpretations of ‘learning’ #lrnchat
brunowinck A7) Read this nice post on Learning Elemination http://t.co/n8hT2dZsMH and new knowledge worker http://t.co/OqLjRPuWH4 #LrnChat
JaneBozarth HEY FIRST TIME #lrnchat-ters!! Did you have fun tonight?
write2tg A7) I learned that we all have a great capacity to learn and share. This is a well-oiled L&D dream team right here :) #lrnchat
Kimacus @lrnchat A7) I learnt that tonight’s questions and answers warrants further learning #lrnchat
DanSpira @lrnchat Q6) In a world of learning machines, learning looks like delegation to software #lrnchat
abahr08 A7) How the future of learning is already affecting the way we are currently learning #lrnchat
duchampian A7) Many things, mostly the second half of #lrnchat is well worth the effort of joining even if I miss the first half
learndrops RT @MrKMaston: @lrnchat A6) Learning may be oriented towards cultural/sociological/philosophical conundrums as utility moves towards automa…
odguru RT @DanHirtEsq: a7) there are a SO. MANY. good looking people that hang out in #lrnchat
trishuhl Q6) I, for one, will welcome our AI overlords… ;) #matrix #MrRoboto #lrnchat https://t.co/g7V1sSrzwi
DanHirtEsq a7) despite a simpler design making training useless, I have no fear of my job security. #lrnchat
sueprendo #lrnchat L&D needs big change. But not elimination. https://t.co/XRmCQpCpB1
kregerck RT @opurt11: Q7) In reconsidering the usefulness of training for any/all performance, we also need to question the need for learning. #lrnc…
JaneBozarth @urbie you ok? #lrnchat
JaneBozarth RT @DanSpira: @lrnchat Q6) In a world of learning machines, learning looks like delegation to software #lrnchat
kregerck RT @DanHirtEsq: a7) there are a SO. MANY. good looking people that hang out in #lrnchat
brunowinck because of them RT @sobith: @lrnchat a6) humans learning from robots ???? #lrnchat
CandiceCPLP RT @Kimacus: @lrnchat A7) I learnt that tonight’s questions and answers warrants further learning #lrnchat
adkpiper Seems like many people are comfortable delegating learned tasks to coworkers—but not if those “coworkers” are systems, not people. #lrnchat
visualrinse RT @sueprendo: #lrnchat L&D needs big change. But not elimination. https://t.co/XRmCQpCpB1
JaneBozarth @DanSpira and I don’t think that’s a bad thing #lrnchat
willconstantine RT @JaneBozarth: HEY FIRST TIME #lrnchat-ters!! Did you have fun tonight?
urbie @adkpiper #lrnchat I get called in when people are having problems doing. If the aids are that good where does improvement come from? +
RobynKraus Yes I did! You guys are awesome! #lrnchat https://t.co/A3Ebp3BNAv
urbie @adkpiper #lrnchat Where is the motivation to improve/change/adapt ?
sueprendo We need become more in tune with our natural and innate motivations and abilities while leveraging tech. #lrnchat https://t.co/XRmCQpCpB1
kregerck Agreed! Feeling a bit unsettled! #lrnchat https://t.co/sJda20vWy5
JaneBozarth RT @adkpiper: Seems like many people are comfortable delegating learned tasks to coworkers—but not if those “coworkers” are systems, not pe…
learningmark a7) ‘Learning’ efforts come and go, tech comes and goes, but PEOPLE are still what matters. Focus on people. #lrnchat
write2tg RT @urbie: #lrnchat A7 What’d I learn tonight? That sometimes participating in twitter chats can hurt. Gonna have to do some serious reflec…
willconstantine I want to learn Adobe RoboHelp #lrnchat
visualrinse A7) more people might be open to rethinking what “learning” means than I previously thought. #lrnchat
trishuhl Q6) Srsly. This is KEY! Instructional design n tech writing will be automated 10 yrs Won’t need humans #lrnchat https://t.co/g7V1sSrzwi
lrnchat QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
odguru RT @jyoti__gupta: a6) #lrnchat It looks good! Very personalized, tailored learning. I wrote about it here: https://t.co/FVcxwQsBuM
adkpiper @urbie I don’t think these approaches need to be mutually exclusive—maybe a choice of which suits the current situation best? #lrnchat
edrevONLINE A7) Learning cannot be automated. Questions can be answered but expertise does not come from automation. #lrnchat
write2tg @urbie I participated in two chats today and my head hurts…from all the good stuff! But its all worth it :))) #lrnchat
urbie @JaneBozarth #lrnchat That thing about Snake Oil @lnddave describes. This no need for learning feels icky.
opurt11 Q7) As usual, @JaneBozarth won’t let us take the easy, comfortable route to recycling same old ideas. She always challenges us. #lrnchat
StyleLearn A7) The meaning of learning still seems a subjective connundrum. It’s almost a belief based process #lrnchat #learningreligion
CandiceCPLP @urbie It comes from changing the processes, policies, etc. Chang is constant. #lrnchat
JeremyDBond RT @audioswhite: A5 see, I think removing learning from things that shouldn’t require learning in the first place is key. #lrnchat
JaneBozarth @RobynKraus I’m glad. Please come back. We’re always up for topics/Qs. Message me or @LnDDave or @Tracy_Parish or @jsuzcampos #lrnchat
TonySearl Do What Serves You,Stand For Something & Don’t Fit In #yes #learning #lrnchat #edchat #schools #shift https://t.co/FAEKR9rVJP @rebelletweet
willconstantine RT @lrnchat: QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
audioswhite A7 learning is a loaded term and the phrase “eliminate the learning” can be disarming. The pre-reading really sets the context #lrnchat
learndrops #lrnchat A7: That there may be a range of understandings of “expertise” and what that implies.
learningmark RT @lrnchat: QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
write2tg RT @lrnchat: QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
trishuhl Q6) So future of learning pros is find ways 2provide VALUE that can’t be automated n outsourced to machines #lrnchat https://t.co/g7V1sSrzwi
kregerck RT @abahr08: A7) How the future of learning is already affecting the way we are currently learning #lrnchat
urbie @write2tg #lrnchat but what drives the change if people aren’t learning? learning is change.
DanHirtEsq Good times, folks. Dan from Michigan. trainer/blogger/podcaster/new father. http://t.co/e8QIqC1WoL #lrnchat
visualrinse A7) learning is…

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…becoming working.
#lrnchat

MrKMaston @lrnchat Thank you everyone! Lots of ideas and questions to think about. Looking forward to the next #lrnchat!
CandiceCPLP RT @trishuhl: Q6) So future of learning pros is find ways 2provide VALUE that can’t be automated n outsourced to machines #lrnchat https://…
JaneBozarth MT @shackletonjones
hard to overcome ‘learning’ as an intellectual horizon; learning elimination is the product of good design. #lrnchat
adkpiper Crisis hotline director for my day job. I write about learning (and other stuff) at http://t.co/VRtQi9aRuO #lrnchat
brunowinck Qwrap) Bruno, same but more instructed, less hungry (more fed), more tired, awesome life #LrnChat
learningmark awrap) Mark Regensburger, headed to ATD ICE in 9 days! Who else is there? #lrnchat
urbie @write2tg #lrnchat when i learn, i make connections with what i already know. if there is a vacuum of learning then no new connections?
JaneBozarth @urbie @LnDDave we didn’t say never #lrnchat
brunowinck Plug -> Any self-directed lifelong learners around? take my survey http://t.co/QVby1lYxKp #LrnChat
willconstantine I am always looking for new projects, opportunities and ways to give back! #lrnchat
opurt11 QWrap) Chad Lowry, Customer Education Designer, Chicago. Newly minted Master’s degree holder from @pa_ldt. #lrnchat
adkpiper Congrats, @opurt11 ! #lrnchat
urbie @sueprendo @write2tg #lrnchat tweeting out loud
bschlenker Training is an event. Learning is a process. Tech supports both. Improved performance is our goal. #lrnchat http://t.co/0Koe0asYYh
lrnchat Thanks everyone for joining #lrnchat tonight. See you next week! Look for weekly transcripts at http://t.co/ijNIXq164N

Transcript – April 30: “Persistence” (Lightning Round)

May 5, 2015 by

#lrnchat is an online chat over the social messaging service Twitter. It is held on Thursdays at 8:30-9:30pm ET/5:30-6:30pm PT.

Participants are people interested in the topic of learning from one another and who want to discuss how to help other people learn in formal, informal, social and mobile ways. We aim to steer clear of topics that are more “training department” oriented and focus on how people learn, what they learn, and what we’re learning.  If you an idea for a topic that you would like to suggest for #lrnchat, please feel free to reach out to any of the Chat Hosts.

Lightning Round

This week we tried something new and pushed out 10 questions over the course of the hour rather than the typical 5-6. The chat was fast, dynamic, and energetic.

This Week’s Chat Questions

  • What are some things that you persisted at until you were skilled? What drove your persistence?
  • What factors drive someone to give up trying or learning something knew?
  • How can we use this knowledge to help motivate learning?
  • How do you know when to stop persisting? (When is it wiser to stop than to persevere?)
  • Has persistence ever worked against you? Why/how?
  • Do you think persistence internally or externally motivated? Why?
  • What is the role of persistence in community? Can persistence be shared is it an individual effort?
  • What is the relationship between persistence and learning?. Are they co-dependent?
  • How does persistence impact performance?
  • What is something that you learned, surprised you, or you’ll do different after from tonight’s chat?

Chat Transcript

NOTE: Tweets are listed in the order they were posted and are shown in Eastern Time. To visit the actual posting for a particular tweet, click the associated user name for the posting.

8:30 PM lrnchat Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
8:31 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
8:31 PM jsuzcampos Hello to all the good people getting ready to #lrnchat
8:31 PM MelMilloway I’m here for #lrnchat. Please pardon the flood of tweets.
8:31 PM sobith RT @lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
8:31 PM write2tg Today’s chat is all about #Persistence in #Learning. Hope to dive in and out of this one-hour chat! #lrnchat
8:31 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
8:31 PM danno4krist @lrnchat Fine thanks… I’ve had a busy long week though! #lrnchat
8:31 PM lodtrain Been great, new job and having fun and happy 2 b @ #lrnchat
8:31 PM Tracy_Parish Hello #lrnchat. Good to see you all again. Here we go! This is going to be a fun one.
8:31 PM lrnchat Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat
8:32 PM Tracy_Parish Tracy Parish, ID healthcare, Newmarket, Ontario. #lrnchat
8:32 PM urbie #lrnchat urbie, instructional designer from arizona
8:32 PM WonderPix “@MelMilloway: I’m here for #lrnchat. Please pardon the flood of tweets.” Hey Melissa!
8:32 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat
8:32 PM deacti_vate Hi #lrnchat :)
8:32 PM willconstantine Hi all! Ready for action! #lrnchat
8:32 PM JaneBozarth @lodtrain ooh tell more about the new job? #lrnchat
8:32 PM jyoti__gupta #lrnchat Hello! Been a crazy week!
8:32 PM trainersleaders Intro: Paul Signorelli, San Francisco-based writer-trainer-instructional designer-consultant; exploring learning w/Google Hangouts #lrnchat
8:32 PM MelMilloway @WonderPix Hi Trish!! #lrnchat
8:32 PM JaneBozarth Why look, y’all! It’s #lrnchat !
8:32 PM jsuzcampos Jeannette Campos, #RedSox nation, working on (and fascinated by) a new project on language learning. #lrnchat
8:33 PM lodtrain Sr Tech Trainer, passionate about all things learning and #lrnchat working on selecting LMS
8:33 PM lrnchat Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:33 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat
8:33 PM deacti_vate Hi! I’m Rachel &amp; a freelance instructional designer/e-learning dev working on lots of things :) #lrnchat
8:33 PM write2tg Taruna Goel, Learning Consultant, Vancouver BC. Currently focused on performance consulting for technical trades #lrnchat
8:33 PM kregerck Christine Kreger, Professional Development Consultant for the Colorado State Library. Holdin’ on ’till vacation in one week! #lrnchat
8:33 PM JaneBozarth @trainersleaders whatcha exploring? #lrnchat
8:33 PM kregerck RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:33 PM danno4krist Hi, Daniel from SA… #lrnchat https://t.co/mkVzFfason
8:33 PM Sandola Hi Sandy McArthur, senior ID at Hanover Ins. #lrnchat
8:33 PM willconstantine Will Constantine working on some xAPI stuff and starting my Indian food blog! #lrnchat
8:34 PM jyoti__gupta #lrnchat This week – need your help – Helping friend, Snr Program Mngr in Learning, find new job. Any ideas?
8:34 PM Tracy_Parish I learned that it takes 2 hours to put a whiteboard together. #lrnchat
8:34 PM DanHirtEsq Hey #lrnchat! Dan Hirt from Michigan (as a trainer/podcaster/blogger)
8:34 PM deacti_vate A0) I’m learning about ILT, and right now messing with my new wacom tablet I found at a yard sale #lrnchat
8:34 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:34 PM urbie #lrnchat projects: something that’s gonna keep me busy the next two years designing learning experiences where comfy footwear is only prereq
8:34 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:34 PM Tracy_Parish Sounds excellent. #lrnchat https://t.co/BxfGgOiUyB
8:34 PM MelMilloway Q0 I’m taking a course on http://t.co/WWsYQKSXmz on Cinemagraphs, so that is what I am learning about! #lrnchat https://t.co/96SbQ9bFVG
8:34 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:34 PM danno4krist A0) Learnt? Quite a lot!
“Time waits for no one, what you have to do, do quick” Due dates are real! #lrnchat https://t.co/fzFdytatRS
8:34 PM write2tg A0) This is what I learned today! You can control someone else’s arm with your brain. Fascinating! http://t.co/4IyVyjGMao #lrnchat
8:34 PM annasabramowicz Anna Sabramowicz – Instructional Designer – Just got back in from the rainy bike ride to chat with y’all #lrnchat
8:34 PM willconstantine Q1) how to make onion pakoras and that people that think like me are alive and well @SeanPutman1 @jleffron #lrnchat
8:34 PM DanHirtEsq RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:34 PM lrnchat Great ready for tonight’s “Lightning Round”. The Qs are going to becoming quick tonight. We have lots to cover. #lrnchat
8:35 PM avanbarn #lrnchat All is well!
8:35 PM lodtrain Q0) Learned that there are so many LMS systems and it is good to use a scorecard to sort through all #lrnchat
8:35 PM jsuzcampos Q0) Learning all I can about the ILR scale for language proficiency. http://t.co/bh8mZ2xfad #lrnchat
8:35 PM jyoti__gupta #lrnchat q0) learned that some people don’t know the difference b/t documentation and training. Sigh.
8:35 PM jsuzcampos RT @lrnchat: Great ready for tonight’s “Lightning Round”. The Qs are going to becoming quick tonight. We have lots to cover. #lrnchat
8:35 PM trainersleaders q0) Learned importance of having spare pair of glasses nearby when presenting in case lens falls out of pair you’re wearing #lrnchat
8:35 PM JaneBozarth Reading Goodwin’s book about Nellie Bly’s trip around the world. Connecting railroads changed the world…#lrnchat
8:35 PM urbie #lrnchat A0 What’d I learn today? That music hath charms to soothe the restless instructional designer. Around noon ideating like mad.
8:35 PM DanHirtEsq a0 Today I learned that no matter how many times you’ve heard it, it’s still new to someone, so don’t be so damn jaded. #lrnchat
8:35 PM kelly_smith01 Kelly Smith waiting for a project to start. #lrnchat
8:35 PM JaneBozarth @lodtrain good for you. #lrnchat
8:36 PM annasabramowicz A0) Learned that small adjustments can make a ton (a TON) of difference to your performance – just need an expert to observe #lrnchat
8:36 PM WrayMelissa A0) that a multiplayer game engine just might be easier to build than I thought. #lrnchat
8:36 PM kregerck Q0) I am always overly ambitious when writing my yearly goals. I have a great boss who helps me reign it in! #lrnchat
8:36 PM Tracy_Parish I learned that I love tower style fans. #lrnchat
8:36 PM lodtrain RT @urbie: #lrnchat A0 What’d I learn today? That music hath charms to soothe the restless instructional designer. Around noon ideating lik…
8:36 PM write2tg My fav too! RT @Tracy_Parish I learned that I love tower style fans. #lrnchat
8:36 PM JaneBozarth RT @jsuzcampos: Q0) Learning all I can about the ILR scale for language proficiency. http://t.co/bh8mZ2xfad #lrnchat
8:36 PM trainersleaders RT @write2tg This is what I learned today! You can control someone else’s arm with your brain. Fascinating! http://t.co/aqZaNo5QHx #lrnchat
8:36 PM MelMilloway @WrayMelissa You must tell me more! #lrnchat
8:36 PM Skardrup Hey eveyone, I’m a game developer in the South West of the UK, new here and would love to get to know everyone! :D #lrnchat
8:36 PM deacti_vate I’m weirdly nervous #lrnchat https://t.co/tv3GhtfXuH
8:37 PM Jovianshadow #LRNChat I learnt that installing the new Adapt tool is not easy! Should be worth it though…
@lrnchat
8:37 PM kelly_smith01 Q0) Learned that sub-contracting for a sub-contractor is like being nibbled to death by ducklings #lrnchat
8:37 PM annasabramowicz @write2tg This is going on my watch later list – Awesomeness! #lrnchat
8:37 PM danno4krist A0) Tools…
@Pinwords for creative images, @flipgrid for feedback, @zaption for adding interactivty 2vid! #lrnchat https://t.co/fzFdytatRS
8:38 PM sobith A0) learnt a lot about community and sharing #lrnchat
8:38 PM avanbarn “@deacti_vate: I’m weirdly nervous #lrnchat ::: Breathe – just breathe. &lt;wink&gt;.
8:38 PM JeremyDBond Parent, education/communication professional…. Looking forward to learning tonight. #lrnchat
8:39 PM JaneBozarth @sobith say more? #lrnchat
8:39 PM Quinnovator Clark Quinn, instigating L&amp;D Revolution, consultant/author/speaker, generally genial malcontent, Walnut Creek CA #lrnchat
8:39 PM R2d2Reed RT @kelly_smith01: RT @guywwallace: Other ‘Zombie’ Theories That Should Rest In Peace http://t.co/Bz2sYWgii2 #lrnchat http://t.co/dVnrGg48…
8:39 PM lrnchat Q1) What are some things that you persisted at until you were skilled? What drove your persistence? #lrnchat
8:39 PM theASIDEblog We learned that patience pays off. #lrnchat
8:39 PM trainersleaders @JaneBozarth Google Hangouts for combined onsite-online learning: 1st piece in this feed summarizes http://t.co/FiXFafjtlR
#lrnchat
8:39 PM kregerck RT @danno4krist: A0) Tools…
@Pinwords for creative images, @flipgrid for feedback, @zaption for adding interactivty 2vid! #lrnchat https:…
8:39 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are some things that you persisted at until you were skilled? What drove your persistence? #lrnchat
8:39 PM jsuzcampos RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are some things that you persisted at until you were skilled? What drove your persistence? #lrnchat
8:40 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are some things that you persisted at until you were skilled? What drove your persistence? #lrnchat
8:40 PM write2tg @annasabramowicz Yup! was imagining all sorts of things with this technology. Move away google glass. electrophysiology is here! #lrnchat
8:40 PM fugu13 A0) learned to write beautiful SQL CTEs :) #lrnchat
8:40 PM Quinnovator a1) surfing; fun. #lrnchat
8:40 PM deacti_vate A1) Storyline… I needed to learn it to keep my job ;) #lrnchat but honestly I enjoyed it so much anyways, wasn’t much of a chore
8:40 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q1) What are some things that you persisted at until you were skilled? What drove your persistence? #lrnchat
8:40 PM DanHirtEsq RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are some things that you persisted at until you were skilled? What drove your persistence? #lrnchat
8:40 PM avanbarn “@danno4krist: Just saw Flipgrid – like it. #lrnchat
8:40 PM annasabramowicz RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are some things that you persisted at until you were skilled? What drove your persistence? #lrnchat
8:40 PM kelly_smith01 @JaneBozarth Love researching/reading about railroads. Brainerd was a big Northern Pacific hub for ore and dead trees. #lrnchat
8:40 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are some things that you persisted at until you were skilled? What drove your persistence? #lrnchat
8:41 PM trainersleaders q1) Persisted in many things to develop skills: language studies, tech skills, writing–all driven by passion for the subject #lrnchat
8:41 PM fugu13 A1) ballet. I was never especially talented, but I was enthralled and determined, and danced for a decade #lrnchat
8:41 PM Tracy_Parish A1) Moutain biking. reason, fun, defying gravity, trying not to hurt myself, the thrill/excitement #lrnchat
8:41 PM ednaks RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are some things that you persisted at until you were skilled? What drove your persistence? #lrnchat
8:41 PM Jovianshadow #lrnchat Learning HTML &amp; CSS et al…still going through the coding lessons. Hoping it will make my eLearning creation fancier! @lrnchat
8:41 PM MelMilloway A1 Building elearning. I couldn’t stand when things weren’t working exactly how I pictured them in my mind #lrnchat https://t.co/alnxpItOu4
8:41 PM jsuzcampos Q1) Distance running. What drove me? The challenge of one more mile. #lrnchat
8:41 PM DanHirtEsq a1 Writing. Did #NaNoWriMo last year. hell of a motivator #lrnchat
8:41 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A0) This week I learned of the power of retrospection: reviewing past training material and asking what could be improved #lrnchat
8:41 PM RRid RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are some things that you persisted at until you were skilled? What drove your persistence? #lrnchat
8:41 PM JaneBozarth Q1. Musical stuff. Often persisted b/c I saw others do it–&amp; I believed I could #lrnchat
8:41 PM JeremyDBond A1) Piano. Practice. And parents. #lrnchat
8:41 PM WonderPix A1) Photoshop, juggling, sports…I wanted to learn so stuck with them #lrnchat
8:41 PM jsuzcampos RT @JeremyDBond: A1) Piano. Practice. And parents. #lrnchat
8:41 PM dbuckedu A1: Parenting. Not yet skilled; thus, I continue to persist. #lrnchat
8:42 PM kregerck RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are some things that you persisted at until you were skilled? What drove your persistence? #lrnchat
8:42 PM jyoti__gupta #lrnchat a1) pretty much all the software I’ve ever used I’ve learned thru brute force learning
8:42 PM Quinnovator a1) writing papers (professional obligation), designing games (job, then research, then work), speaking (marketing/money) #lrnchat
8:42 PM JaneBozarth @trainersleaders cool #lrnchat
8:42 PM Tracy_Parish I am with you on that one. #lrnchat https://t.co/2Doy7m0Mke
8:42 PM avanbarn a1: Persisted in my undergrad stats course until I could finally understand how to calculate beta. Why? Just stubborn! #lrnchat
8:42 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are some things that you persisted at until you were skilled? What drove your persistence? #lrnchat
8:42 PM kregerck A1) Math. Took algebra several times. although still not very good at it. #lrnchat
8:42 PM annasabramowicz @kelly_smith01 ahahahah – well put, god I’ve been there #lrnchat
8:42 PM trainersleaders No need for nervousness here: RT @deacti_vate I’m weirdly nervous #lrnchat https://t.co/Lrc4J8pbq0
8:43 PM write2tg A1) Designing learning, writing courses, and learning software. My persistence continues…. #lrnchat
8:43 PM kregerck A1) Networking. #lrnchat
8:43 PM kelly_smith01 Learning business process documentation. Had a need to know what was in the white spaces. #lrnchat
8:43 PM WillWorkLearn #lrnchat A1: Persisted in many things for many different reasons. Still learning how to be a learning consultant. Maybe someday…
8:43 PM JaneBozarth @sobith recorded somewhere? That was grad school interest #lrnchat
8:43 PM lrnchat Q2) What factors drive someone to give up trying or learning something knew? #lrnchat
8:43 PM jleffron @willconstantine nothing like some good conversation about real learning to bring me out of Twitter hibrenation :) cc: @SeanPutman1 #lrnchat
8:43 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q2) What factors drive someone to give up trying or learning something knew? #lrnchat
8:43 PM MelMilloway A1b Cooking too. I had to build up my skills but I am still not a great cook. #lrnchat
8:43 PM JaneBozarth @jsuzcampos and brunch w me at the end #lrnchat
8:44 PM sobith RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are some things that you persisted at until you were skilled? What drove your persistence? #lrnchat
8:44 PM MelMilloway @kregerck I would say that too. I am kind of shy. #lrnchat
8:44 PM annasabramowicz @write2tg I am thinking I need a willing participant and I can get my house cleaned just by thinking about it :) #lrnchat
8:44 PM lodtrain RT @write2tg: A1) Designing learning, writing courses, and learning software. My persistence continues…. #lrnchat
8:44 PM Tracy_Parish Q2) Being told “It’s good for you”. Some how that reasoning never works. #lrnchat
8:44 PM urbie #lrnchat A1 Screen printing on a shoestring. Wanting to have a creative outlet on the (really) cheap was the driver.
8:44 PM DanHirtEsq RT @lrnchat: Q2) What factors drive someone to give up trying or learning something knew? #lrnchat
8:44 PM deacti_vate .@MelMilloway ooh cooking is a good one, I wanted people to tell me food was good without me asking #lrnchat
8:44 PM avanbarn “@jsuzcampos: Q1) Distance running. What drove me? The challenge of one more mile. #lrnchat” Totally get the attraction of a challenge.
8:44 PM JeremyDBond Me too! It also helps that you can’t exactly give it up. #lrnchat https://t.co/Qk9KKr6kHO
8:44 PM theASIDEblog We pushed to be on the leading edge of teaching our learners the skills of graphicacy. We saw a need, and found engagement. #lrnchat
8:44 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q2) What factors drive someone to give up trying or learning something knew? #lrnchat
8:44 PM Tracy_Parish RT @lrnchat: Q2) What factors drive someone to give up trying or learning something knew? #lrnchat
8:44 PM WonderPix A2) Failing repeatedly without grace and commitment. #lrnchat
8:44 PM trainersleaders q2) Among factors driving someone to give up trying or learning something knew: lack of time, support, interest, need… #lrnchat
8:44 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q2) What factors drive someone to give up trying or learning something knew? #lrnchat
8:45 PM littlemacf650 New to this chat 6th grade self contained from Ca
A1= definitely writing, although not sure I am totally skilled at this
#lrnchat
8:45 PM dbuckedu A2: Lack of support and a clear vision of the expected results of that learning. Failure w/ no feedback for improvement. #lrnchat
8:45 PM Tracy_Parish A2 Bordom, lack of results, lack of enough time, lack of challenge, lack of understandig, #lrnchat
8:45 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q2) What factors drive someone to give up trying or learning something knew? #lrnchat
8:45 PM MelMilloway A2 I would say it is either a hill (obstacle), will (they just don’t want to) or they don’t have the skill #lrnchat https://t.co/2Lq3gtPy7A
8:45 PM urbie #lrnchat A1 Sometimes even the most dogged persistence was for naught. Take marbles. Try though I did I never mastered the Fudgie Technique.
8:45 PM willconstantine Q2) FAILURE #lrnchat
8:45 PM jsuzcampos Indeed @lJaneBozarth,brunch with you was a driver, although that was a short race (comparatively!) #lrnchat
8:45 PM deacti_vate A2) A little laziness &amp; no immediate need for the knowledge (won’t really negatively affect them to stop trying) #lrnchat
8:45 PM DanHirtEsq a2, survival, the need of a pay cheque, #lrnchat
8:45 PM lodtrain A2) Give up when feedback is negative, or person feels that there is no value for them to continue #lrnchat
8:45 PM jsuzcampos Q2) Lack of feedback. #lrnchat
8:45 PM SpellingCity Read-A-Word is ideal for beginning readers &amp; students who need extra practice. http://t.co/eacpiAUXK5 #lrnchat http://t.co/lpUSPeTezv
8:45 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q2) What factors drive someone to give up trying or learning something knew? #lrnchat
8:45 PM annasabramowicz A1) Languages, because of necessity – go to a country and don’t bring a translator #lrnchat
8:45 PM write2tg A2) Having fun, an emotional connection and positive reinforcement help us continue to persist #lrnchat
8:45 PM MelMilloway @deacti_vate I have no cutting skills in the kitchen but I also don’t have good equipment LOL #lrnchat
8:45 PM jsuzcampos Q2) Unrealistic expectations. #lrnchat
8:45 PM willconstantine Mmmmm chai #lrnchat
8:46 PM KnowledgeAdvntg Q1) writing. the joy of doing it and knowing it was of good quality upon completion #lrnchat
8:46 PM write2tg A2) Giving up happens when there’s no feedback, no perceived value, failure #lrnchat
8:46 PM jsuzcampos Q2) Environments that don’t support or encourage persistence. #lrnchat
8:46 PM urbie #lrnchat A2 With respect to the aforementioned marbles anecdote.. replacing marbles lost to neighborhood marble sharks got expensive.
8:46 PM trainersleaders Oh, man: #lrnchat just got me bigtime: copied/retweeted phrase with typo without proofing; how will I ever live this down? #mortified
8:46 PM kelly_smith01 Q2) Lack of seeing or understanding what final product or expert performance is #lrnchat
8:46 PM kelly_smith01 RT @Tracy_Parish: Q2) Being told “It’s good for you”. Some how that reasoning never works. #lrnchat
8:46 PM DanHirtEsq I think i misunderstood the question (already) #lrnchat
8:46 PM annasabramowicz A2) Giving up happens when failure is not as scary as success #lrnchat
8:46 PM Jovianshadow #lrnchat Boredom, tedium and annoying aspects of the learning… @lrnchat
8:46 PM jsuzcampos RT @annasabramowicz: A2) Giving up happens when failure is not as scary as success #lrnchat
8:46 PM whitneykilgore This is a killer!! Or the dreaded “Good job” #lrnchat https://t.co/Q0keUS5BBi
8:47 PM JeremyDBond A2) Comfort, multiple priorities, preference for more immediate reward, and… Look! Squirrel! #lrnchat
8:47 PM avanbarn A2: lack of encouragement – no cheerleader. #lrnchat”
8:47 PM lodtrain RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Lack of seeing or understanding what final product or expert performance is #lrnchat
8:47 PM theASIDEblog People give up learning something new when they don’t have choice in the process. #lrnchat
8:47 PM kregerck RT @lrnchat: Q2) What factors drive someone to give up trying or learning something knew? #lrnchat
8:47 PM write2tg RT @avanbarn A2: lack of encouragement – no cheerleader. #lrnchat”
8:47 PM lodtrain RT @Jovianshadow: #lrnchat Boredom, tedium and annoying aspects of the learning… @lrnchat
8:47 PM danno4krist This is sooo true! #lrnchat I feel frustrated w/out suffiecient support, looks like a setup kind of! https://t.co/TqSQwirCzb
8:47 PM JaneBozarth Q2. Per Schommer beliefs about speed of learning affects persistence #lrnchat
8:47 PM herbRcollins Q2. People sometimes give up when they realize that they will not be perfect. #lrnchat
8:47 PM JaneBozarth RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Lack of seeing or understanding what final product or expert performance is #lrnchat
8:47 PM lodtrain RT @avanbarn: A2: lack of encouragement – no cheerleader. #lrnchat”
8:47 PM Plock2009 Q1) ballroom – waltz #lrnchat
8:47 PM jsuzcampos Q2) Disbelief … when you begin to believe it is more impossible than possible. #lrnchat
8:47 PM kregerck A2) Lack of confidence. Fear of failure. #lrnchat
8:47 PM WillWorkLearn #lrnchat Many reasons people give up. Many, many, many, reasons… And people aren’t always driven. They can decide. https://t.co/9HEF2b9MAO
8:47 PM JaneBozarth @trainersleaders that will be on your Permanent Record, Paul. #lrnchat
8:48 PM milandobrota A1: Many things – basketball, programming, psychology, to name a few #lrnchat
8:48 PM write2tg RT @herbRcollins Q2. People sometimes give up when they realize that they will not be perfect. #lrnchat
8:48 PM lrnchat Q3) How can we use this knowledge to help motivate learning? #lrnchat
8:48 PM whitneykilgore lack of clarity regarding expectations and no chances to edit on high stakes assessment only #lrnchat https://t.co/wm0XnedFWc
8:48 PM deacti_vate A2) When the goal seems a LONG time coming #lrnchat (but don’t you wish you started a year ago?)
8:48 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q3) How can we use this knowledge to help motivate learning? #lrnchat
8:48 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A2) Some come to mind: Delivery, simplicity, access to learning resources, opportunity for application, encouragement… #lrnchat
8:48 PM kelly_smith01 Q2) Being told you did a good job w/o being told specifically what was done well #lrnchat
8:48 PM KnowledgeAdvntg Q2) Frustration &amp; too much effort for not enough return. realizing that you can’t accomplish what you want at the highest level #lrnchat
8:48 PM urbie #lrnchat A2 Peer pressure plays a hand as well. Boss pressure, too. Some of the finer points of project management elude me.
8:48 PM theASIDEblog We’ve witnessed plenty a student push themselves to learn when they realized the process is not graded by a letter or number. #lrnchat
8:48 PM sobith A1) Cooking food – driven by need for healthy food #lrnchat @willconstantine
8:48 PM JaneBozarth Q2 fear of failure is bigger than perceived positive outcome of success #lrnchat
8:48 PM dbuckedu Agreed! Low tolerance for risk and failure. #lrnchat https://t.co/JTyJKvAP1Z
8:48 PM danno4krist A2) Maybe consistent failure/obstacles after trying severally and not knowing how to improve! #lrnchat https://t.co/HYVRDfC0sO
8:48 PM write2tg RT @JaneBozarth Q2 fear of failure is bigger than perceived positive outcome of success #lrnchat
8:49 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can we use this knowledge to help motivate learning? #lrnchat
8:49 PM littlemacf650 @dbuckedu definitely this can make you feel lost and unworthy of EVER “getting” it.
#lrnchat
8:49 PM jsuzcampos Q3) Design learning experiences that are reasonable in their intended outcomes. #lrnchat
8:49 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can we use this knowledge to help motivate learning? #lrnchat
8:49 PM dotmem2 A1) Pursuing my master’s. Writing, storyboarding. Renovating a house and learning how to wield a router. #lrnchat
8:49 PM whitneykilgore Let’s make a pact to never create bad e/m-Learning!! #lrnchat https://t.co/99uOmiVAlN
8:49 PM avanbarn “@willconstantine: Q2) FAILURE #lrnchat” Exactly.
8:49 PM lodtrain A3) Motivate Learning by giving them the WIFM and show benefits of learning this topic &amp; reward via games etc #lrnchat
8:49 PM milandobrota A1: What drove me was my interest in them and belief that I can improve as long as I tried hard enough #lrnchat
8:49 PM jsuzcampos Q3) As a learner, check my expectations, ensure they reasonable. #lrnchat
8:49 PM WonderPix A3) Support both the learner and the learning without negativity #lrnchat
8:49 PM Tracy_Parish Keep the learning challenging, provide check points, milestones, constructive criticism. Make it fun, entertaining, criticism #lrnchat
8:49 PM danno4krist How much we sometimes don’t want to admit this but its a great motivation! #lrnchat https://t.co/04GgPHeu2n
8:50 PM JaneBozarth @annasabramowicz mais oui #lrnchat
8:50 PM dbuckedu A3: Provide the right soil for seed of learning to grow. Proper attention, some watering, some weeding, plenty of fertilizer. #lrnchat
8:50 PM theASIDEblog Cut off choice and empowerment, and learners give up. They need the “so what” to have meaning. #lrnchat
8:50 PM write2tg A3) Design learning that allows people to fail in a safe environment or not be afraid of failing and know how to get better. #lrnchat
8:50 PM AssignmentHelpN 5 Simple Tips for Learning #English the Easy Way http://t.co/lWeD0azsl1 http://t.co/OSkroqwd0K #lrnchat #EFL #ELL #ESL #atPLC
8:50 PM sobith Q2) fear of failure #lrnchat
8:50 PM JeremyDBond Yes! Helps to have others along with us and guiding us. #lrnchat https://t.co/ec7VjgcySf
8:50 PM kregerck RT @JaneBozarth: Q2 fear of failure is bigger than perceived positive outcome of success #lrnchat
8:50 PM jsuzcampos RT @Tracy_Parish Keep the learning challenging, provide check points, milestones, constructive criticism. Make it fun
#lrnchat
8:50 PM KnowledgeAdvntg Q3) as carriers of learning intent we can motivate thru engaging delivery but there must also be intrinsic motivation / desire #lrnchat
8:50 PM trainersleaders Didn’t earlier @lrnchat confirm we have no permanent record? RT @JaneBozarth that will be on your Permanent Record, Paul. #lrnchat
8:50 PM Tracy_Parish RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can we use this knowledge to help motivate learning? #lrnchat
8:50 PM MelMilloway A3 Provide a solution i.e. if it is an issue of not having access to equipment help get them get it #lrnchat https://t.co/KEMchULb6L
8:50 PM avanbarn “@herbRcollins: Q2. People sometimes give up when they realize that they will not be perfect. #lrnchat” That makes me crazy!
8:50 PM dotmem2 A2) Doubt in one’s ability to success. Perception that there’s no value to the task at hand. No grit or tenacity. #lrnchat
8:50 PM JaneBozarth Q2 because we don’t really want to. #lrnchat
8:50 PM deacti_vate A3) Creating small attainable goals, rather than just one large scary comprehensive one #lrnchat
8:50 PM milandobrota Q2: Frustration. Slow progress. Seeing how much there is to learn. #lrnchat
8:51 PM urbie #lrnchat A3 Okay, I know there’s no such thing as learning styles. But I been known to try/fail long into the night to get something right..
8:51 PM jsuzcampos Q3) Set the conditions for learners so that they want, and CAN, persist. #lrnchat
8:51 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can we use this knowledge to help motivate learning? #lrnchat
8:51 PM Food_Choices A1) Cooking food – driven by need for healthy food #lrnchat @willconstantine
8:51 PM SparkyTeaching For schools where character counts… &gt;&gt;&gt; https://t.co/xqMEqwkLqT
#lrnchat #mdeschat #mschat #whatisschool #ChristianEducators #wgsdchat
8:51 PM write2tg A3) Offer goals, feedback, follow-ups/reinforcements and help learners define their own value of learning. #lrnchat
8:51 PM nsamuell A3: Show people real evidence of progress #lrnchat
8:51 PM lodtrain RT @deacti_vate: A3) Creating small attainable goals, rather than just one large scary comprehensive one #lrnchat
8:51 PM Tracy_Parish A3) Partner up, find like minded folks to work with, or unlike minded to expand your horizons. #lrnchat (push past comfort zone @LnDDave
8:51 PM urbie #lrnchat A3 It’s not pride that keeps me going. Who’d be proud of that pile of failures overflowing the waste bin?
8:51 PM WillWorkLearn #lrnchat NFL DRAFT UPDATE: San Francisco 49’ers chose Fullback Clark Quinn w/ their first round pick. Why: “He’s always busting thru da line
8:51 PM Tracy_Parish RT @nsamuell: A3: Show people real evidence of progress #lrnchat
8:51 PM Jovianshadow #lrnchat use engaging and relevant content. In my space, the use of recognisable athletes in my education videos lends authenticity
8:52 PM dbuckedu Good point! Must be able to “tap” into the learner’s intrinsic motivation and leverage it. #lrnchat https://t.co/Jalay7wISc
8:52 PM willconstantine Q3) let them know by failing they just learning something far better that succeeding. Failure is success. #lrnchat
8:52 PM MelMilloway A3b If it’s an issue of skill point them in the right direction of attaining the skill. #lrnchat
8:52 PM danno4krist Yes, true Jeannette! #lrnchat Sometimes, it’s just better to focus on finishing than expecting to fail! https://t.co/WLcpWt9WsN
8:52 PM kregerck RT @jsuzcampos: RT @Tracy_Parish Keep the learning challenging, provide check points, milestones, constructive criticism. Make it fun
#lrnc…
8:52 PM deacti_vate A3) be transparent in the learning, show exactly what they’re going to get out of it #lrnchat
8:52 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can we use this knowledge to help motivate learning? #lrnchat
8:52 PM MelMilloway A3c If it is an issue of will provide them with the WIIFM to learn that skill. #lrnchat
8:52 PM dbuckedu Right! Scaffolding key to small wins. #lrnchat https://t.co/Ay1jJht9aK
8:52 PM littlemacf650 A3 Extra help and real encouraging phrases, “I know you can do this” “I believe in you” and mean it.
#lrnchat
8:52 PM avanbarn A3: Support, guide, reinforce, encourage, give feedback. And hug, did I mention that one? #lrnchat”
8:52 PM write2tg A3) Create and foster a learning culture that defines failures as the milestones on the road to success. #lrnchat
8:53 PM JaneBozarth @trainersleaders have you met the internet? #lrnchat
8:53 PM Tracy_Parish Keep it short, concise, to the point so the results are seen and the motivate to improve continues. #lrnchat
8:53 PM LnDDave Sorry to be missing #lrnchat. Just waiting to get my Avengers geek on. Have fun everyone! http://t.co/3BOyHF3nAo
8:53 PM dotmem2 A3) Design an experience that excites people. Include milestones to build lrnr confidence while incrementally adding difficulty. #lrnchat
8:53 PM trainersleaders q3) One great way to use our experiences to motivate learning: don’t do unto others what has been done unto us to discourage us #lrnchat
8:53 PM herbRcollins Q3 Explain the WIIFM #lrnchat
8:53 PM MelMilloway @deacti_vate Yes, exactly. That’s my answer for if the learner does’t have the will to learn. #lrnchat
8:53 PM annasabramowicz A3) Imagine success, imagine yourself there, you have to sell it to yourself first – realize there is a tradeoff (time etc) #lrnchat
8:53 PM WillWorkLearn @willconstantine #lrnchat Well, well Will, Failure sometimes leads to success. Not always…Missing ingredients?
8:53 PM write2tg Belief can take us so far. RT @littlemacf650 A3 “I know you can do this” “I believe in you” and mean it. #lrnchat
8:53 PM urbie #lrnchat A3 Collaboration with others in a meaningful way helps motivate.
8:53 PM dbuckedu A3: Celebrate failures as expected milestones on the path to learning. #lrnchat
8:53 PM danno4krist This could be true guys… #lrnchat Maybe I might too! https://t.co/soVmWH5d4U
8:53 PM kregerck A3) Don’t just talk at them. Involve them. Learn together. #lrnchat
8:53 PM sobith Promote self-directed learning #lrnchat
8:54 PM dotmem2 RT @nsamuell: A3: Show people real evidence of progress #lrnchat
8:54 PM write2tg Create those opportunities to collaborate…RT @urbie #lrnchat A3 Collaboration with others in a meaningful way helps motivate.
8:54 PM JaneBozarth Q3 find your own motivations/outcomes. Confront your own Stuff: fear of failure, laziness, whatever. #lrnchat
8:54 PM avanbarn “@dbuckedu: Agreed! Low tolerance for risk and failure. #lrnchat::: why do we have that fear? Where did it come form?
8:54 PM theASIDEblog A3 Design the learning environment around feedback, not grades. #lrnchat
8:54 PM trainersleaders No, but I understand all those tubes &amp; wires help stimulate learning: RT @JaneBozarth have you met the internet? #lrnchat
8:54 PM milandobrota A3: Being aware of it is a good start. Here’s a model that explain the emotional cycle of change: http://t.co/FRw9BLCohM #lrnchat
8:54 PM lodtrain RT @JaneBozarth: Q3 find your own motivations/outcomes. Confront your own Stuff: fear of failure, laziness, whatever. #lrnchat
8:54 PM lodtrain RT @theASIDEblog: A3 Design the learning environment around feedback, not grades. #lrnchat
8:54 PM urbie #lrnchat A3 When I was learning to code in Flash ActionScript being able to work with the pros made for success.
8:54 PM Madelineh28 RT @Food_Choices: A1) Cooking food – driven by need for healthy food #lrnchat @willconstantine
8:54 PM write2tg RT @lodtrain RT @theASIDEblog: A3 Design the learning environment around feedback, not grades. #lrnchat
8:54 PM willconstantine @WillWorkLearn I thought about that the other day cooking and learning. I sense a blog post coming soon… #lrnchat
8:54 PM lrnchat Q4) How do you know when to stop persisting? (When is it wiser to stop than to persevere?) #lrnchat
8:55 PM kelly_smith01 Q3/ No punishment. Let them know what went well and how to recognize exemplary performance #lrnchat
8:55 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you know when to stop persisting? (When is it wiser to stop than to persevere?) #lrnchat
8:55 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q4) How do you know when to stop persisting? (When is it wiser to stop than to persevere?) #lrnchat
8:55 PM annasabramowicz RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you know when to stop persisting? (When is it wiser to stop than to persevere?) #lrnchat
8:55 PM trainersleaders Great pitch for #ConnectedLearning &amp; collaboration: RT @kregerck A3) Don’t just talk at them. Involve them. Learn together. #lrnchat
8:55 PM btopro RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you know when to stop persisting? (When is it wiser to stop than to persevere?) #lrnchat
8:55 PM JaneBozarth RT @urbie: #lrnchat A3 Collaboration with others in a meaningful way helps motivate.
8:55 PM WillWorkLearn @willconstantine There’s no recipe for a good blog post #lrnchat
8:55 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you know when to stop persisting? (When is it wiser to stop than to persevere?) #lrnchat
8:55 PM Tracy_Parish Q4) When you’ve spent too much time, money, will little to no results, and little to no improvement. #lrnchat
8:55 PM jsuzcampos Q4) Great book on knowing when to quit, “The Dip” by Seth Godin #lrnchat
8:56 PM deacti_vate A4) If what I’m learning has already become obsolete and I’m not getting any fun/value out of it otherwise #lrnchat
8:56 PM theASIDEblog Motivation is not a problem when learning if the process that builds on tangible outcomes. #lrnchat
8:56 PM urbie #lrnchat A4 If, no matter how fast you bail, the boat you’re in continues to sink it’s time to try something else.
8:56 PM MelMilloway A4 I don’t think you should stop persisting at anything if you enjoy it. #lrnchat https://t.co/GNGrP9mRGd
8:56 PM littlemacf650 @kregerck Yes, learning together, no matter how many times you have to do it.
#lrnchat
8:56 PM JaneBozarth RT @annasabramowicz: A3) Imagine success, imagine yourself there, you have to sell it to yourself first – realize there is a tradeoff (time…
8:56 PM lodtrain A4) Wise to stop when it adds no value or joy to your learning/job/life #lrnchat
8:56 PM dbuckedu A4: When the energy spent persisting could be better leveraged toward seeking another pathway or a different pursuit. #lrnchat
8:56 PM btopro A4) when your citing yourself ;) #lrnchat
8:56 PM write2tg A4) I guess when I know I have spent myself enough – time, resources, mind space – and there is still no progress #lrnchat
8:56 PM btopro RT @lodtrain: A4) Wise to stop when it adds no value or joy to your learning/job/life #lrnchat
8:56 PM lodtrain RT @Tracy_Parish: Q4) When you’ve spent too much time, money, will little to no results, and little to no improvement. #lrnchat
8:56 PM PatriceKiraly RT @Quinnovator: a1) writing papers (professional obligation), designing games (job, then research, then work), speaking (marketing/money) …
8:56 PM jsuzcampos Q4) “You only have two good choices: quit or be exceptional. Average is for losers.” ~Seth Godin, The Dip #lrnchat
8:56 PM lodtrain RT @urbie: #lrnchat A4 If, no matter how fast you bail, the boat you’re in continues to sink it’s time to try something else.
8:56 PM willconstantine RT @jsuzcampos: Q4) Great book on knowing when to quit, “The Dip” by Seth Godin #lrnchat
8:56 PM write2tg RT @jsuzcampos Q4) “You only have two good choices: quit or be exceptional. Average is for losers.” ~Seth Godin, The Dip #lrnchat
8:56 PM Sandola RT @dbuckedu: A4: When the energy spent persisting could be better leveraged toward seeking another pathway or a different pursuit. #lrnch…
8:57 PM kregerck RT @write2tg: A3) Create and foster a learning culture that defines failures as the milestones on the road to success. #lrnchat
8:57 PM duchampian A4) Persistence is omnipotent, some smart person said #lrnchat
8:57 PM jsuzcampos Q4) “The temptation to be average is just another form of quitting.” ~Seth Godin, The Dip #lrnchat
8:57 PM jamesrolle Summer PD to transform your teaching. It’s not about the tools but what you do with them. http://t.co/NYw5vLoJKZ #lrnchat #k12 #web20
8:57 PM dbuckedu Perhaps the toughest part of facilitating learning pursuits. #lrnchat https://t.co/whIA7XBDKj
8:57 PM Tracy_Parish RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you know when to stop persisting? (When is it wiser to stop than to persevere?) #lrnchat
8:57 PM write2tg RT @kregerck: A3) Don’t just talk at them. Involve them. Learn together. #lrnchat
8:57 PM lodtrain RT @jsuzcampos: Q4) “You only have two good choices: quit or be exceptional. Average is for losers.” ~Seth Godin, The Dip #lrnchat
8:57 PM trainersleaders q4) One sign that it’s time to stop persisting in learning: when effort required outweighs benefits #lrnchat
8:57 PM DanHirtEsq if you doing it for kicks, you dont stop #lrnchat for funds? once you start loosing friends
8:57 PM JaneBozarth Q4 when the very idea of trying just makes you unhappy. Life’s too short. #lrnchat
8:57 PM deacti_vate A4) When my other skills are beginning to suffer due to spreading myself too thin #lrnchat
8:58 PM Tracy_Parish I’ll often quit something just because I’m bored and know my time can be better spent do something else. Anything else. #lrnchat
8:58 PM annasabramowicz Q4) Stop digging 6feet from gold? That’s hard, but it’s the aftermath that teaches us most? Sometimes letting go is #1 lesson #lrnchat
8:58 PM JeremyDBond As we chat, my fifth grader is frustrated after getting parental feedback on her science project. Expected it would be good to go. #lrnchat
8:58 PM JaneBozarth RT @jsuzcampos: Q4) “The temptation to be average is just another form of quitting.” ~Seth Godin, The Dip #lrnchat
8:58 PM Quinnovator love it when good news biz calls come in, not as much that they’re during #lrnchat, but life happens. ok, back into the fray
8:58 PM HenCatherine Q10: how do you keep SPED students engaged and motivated with technology? #avilaedtech #lrnchat
8:58 PM danno4krist A3) First I must know that most nothing comes w/out some level of persistence in it #lrnchat https://t.co/2hOIGTpxAO
8:58 PM WillWorkLearn Q3) #lrnchat: I remember reading something about how some folks who persevere actually hurt their outcomes — I think in being creative.
8:58 PM kregerck RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you know when to stop persisting? (When is it wiser to stop than to persevere?) #lrnchat
8:58 PM herbRcollins A4 Eyes glazing over. :-) #lrnchat
8:58 PM jyoti__gupta #lrnchat a4) when you’re not improving – at least get help
8:58 PM avanbarn “@kregerck: A3) Don’t just talk at them. Involve them. Learn together. #lrnchat”::: is talking at them considered learning?
8:58 PM theASIDEblog @write2tg @lrnchat Politics and punishment stifle learning. It stops the process. #lrnchat
8:58 PM elearning RT @JaneBozarth: Q4 when the very idea of trying just makes you unhappy. Life’s too short. #lrnchat
8:58 PM dbuckedu A4: When it’s not in the best interest of those who are affected by the repeated failures. #lrnchat
8:58 PM Quinnovator a2) lack of support, failure without feedback, perceived incapability, #lrnchat
8:58 PM kregerck A4) If you don’t have to, and you don’t enjoy it. #lrnchat
8:59 PM anetah RT @jsuzcampos: Q4) “The temptation to be average is just another form of quitting.” ~Seth Godin, The Dip #lrnchat
8:59 PM trainersleaders When to stop persisting in learning: RT @JaneBozarth Q4 when the very idea of trying just makes you unhappy. Life’s too short. #lrnchat
8:59 PM urbie #lrnchat A4 Teaming with others has tremendous potential as a persistence aid. Just because you can’t do something doesn’t others can’t.
8:59 PM write2tg RT @kregerck A4) If you don’t have to, and you don’t enjoy it. #lrnchat
8:59 PM Plock2009 RT @deacti_vate: A4) When my other skills are beginning to suffer due to spreading myself too thin #lrnchat
8:59 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you know when to stop persisting? (When is it wiser to stop than to persevere?) #lrnchat
8:59 PM lrnchat Q5) Has persistence ever worked against you? Why/how? #lrnchat
8:59 PM Tracy_Parish I’ll quit persisting on something when I also know that I don’t have final say on the task at hand. ” jump how high, you got it” #lrnchat
8:59 PM jsuzcampos RT @lrnchat: Q5) Has persistence ever worked against you? Why/how? #lrnchat
8:59 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q5) Has persistence ever worked against you? Why/how? #lrnchat
8:59 PM danno4krist A3) 2nd, I must keep telling my studnts d same! Persistence is a very critical key 2every success in life #lrnchat https://t.co/2hOIGTpxAO
8:59 PM trainersleaders Another sign that it’s time to stop persisting in learning: RT @herbRcollins A4 Eyes glazing over. :-) #lrnchat
8:59 PM dotmem2 A4) Don’t think there’s a hard/fast rule. If you enjoy it, then cont. Like bowling, I still do it even though I don’t break 100. #lrnchat
8:59 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q5) Has persistence ever worked against you? Why/how? #lrnchat
8:59 PM JaneBozarth RT @JeremyDBond: As we chat, my fifth grader is frustrated after getting parental feedback on her science project. Expected it would be goo…
8:59 PM Quinnovator a3) provide support, create and reward success, make failure safe and focus on lessons, #lrnchat
8:59 PM jsuzcampos Q5) no matter how hard it tried that fish never could climb that tree. #lrnchat
8:59 PM kregerck RT @trainersleaders: When to stop persisting in learning: RT @JaneBozarth Q4 when the very idea of trying just makes you unhappy. Life’s to…
8:59 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q5) Has persistence ever worked against you? Why/how? #lrnchat
9:00 PM JeremyDBond A4) Sometimes #failure leads us in another direction. Nothing wrong with that. #lrnchat
9:00 PM annasabramowicz @jsuzcampos That throws many of my “hobbies” out the window. Ha! #lrnchat
9:00 PM milandobrota A4: When you can’t make progress unless you intinsically enjoy doing it no matter what #lrnchat
9:00 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A4) When taking a step back to look at the big picture and feel satisfied that you tried and with how far you’ve come. #lrnchat
9:00 PM avanbarn A4: honestly, sometimes I cannot tell when it’s time to give it up. #lrnchat”
9:00 PM duchampian A4) sometimes giving up is just waiting for the right moment, just sayin’ #lrnchat
9:00 PM willconstantine Q5) if you are working towards the wrong goal #lrnchat
9:00 PM Tracy_Parish Unlike @jsuzcampos, my persistence to run cause me some severe hip damage some time ago. #lrnchat – or it was just old age ;)
9:00 PM Plock2009 RT @lrnchat: Q5) Has persistence ever worked against you? Why/how? #lrnchat
9:00 PM urbie #lrnchat A5 Yes. Stationed on Diego Garcia for 354 days no number of messages in a bottle helped to get me back home quicker. 1/2
9:00 PM JaneBozarth @Tracy_Parish srsly. I can hire somebody to do fractions. #lrnchat
9:00 PM dotmem2 A4) Maybe the theme here is “when it stops being fun and starts causing anxiety…or stress. #lrnchat
9:00 PM MelMilloway @dotmem2 Exactly. I am bad at SO many thing but I still enjoy them. i.e. art and everything looks like a 5 yr old did it. #lrnchat
9:00 PM jsuzcampos @avanbarn then you must read The Dip! —-&gt; honestly, sometimes I cannot tell when it’s time to give it up #lrnchat
9:00 PM JaneBozarth @avanbarn yeah… #lrnchat
9:00 PM danno4krist One of my favs tonight! #lrnchat https://t.co/HwJRkVgqtL
9:00 PM write2tg Yes, organizations do that often :) RT @willconstantine Q5) if you are working towards the wrong goal #lrnchat
9:01 PM kelly_smith01 Q4) When you cannot navigate your performance without a constant need for feedback or direction #lrnchat
9:01 PM Quinnovator a4) when cost is too high, when other things become more important, #lrnchat
9:01 PM lodtrain A5) Persistence has always helped, in fact I call it being politely persistent – always learn from it when to keep going or stop #lrnchat
9:01 PM MelMilloway A5 No, if anything I have not persisted enough in my life. #lrnchat https://t.co/7GZpESabE2
9:01 PM dbuckedu Agreed! The hidden value of failure can be missed if one is not looking for it. #lrnchat https://t.co/10r9tloWSG
9:01 PM urbie #lrnchat A5 There were so many other things I could have been doing: like continuing distance learning classes with U of Hawaii.
9:01 PM duchampian A5) I’m a Taurean, persistence has NEVER failed me #truth #lrnchat
9:01 PM danno4krist Another good point here! #lrnchat https://t.co/YKlEnyW2H3
9:01 PM jsuzcampos Q4) Quitting the projects that don’t go anywhere is essential to committing to the projects that will. Quit smart. #lrnchat
9:01 PM ednaks RT @lrnchat: Q5) Has persistence ever worked against you? Why/how? #lrnchat
9:01 PM trainersleaders q5) Persistence in learning works against me when I know I’m incapable of retaining anything, but stick with it #WastingTime #lrnchat
9:01 PM JeremyDBond A5) A relative insisted on improving and adding to a dish that was already burned. I sympathized. Hard to let work go to waste. #lrnchat
9:01 PM Quinnovator a5) probably have pissed a few people off (probably? Ha!) with stubbornness #lrnchat
9:01 PM jyoti__gupta a5) #lrnchat absolutely – persistently believing a person or situation out of my control will change if I only wait &lt;– waste of time
9:01 PM deacti_vate A5) Once I persisted until I evaded school’s firewall for a priv. chat room for my comp class – first time in principal’s office #lrnchat
9:01 PM JaneBozarth @annasabramowicz @jsuzcampos i’m happy being an average uke player. I just want to have fun and be marginally competent. #lrnchat
9:02 PM urbie #lrnchat A5 It’s a tricky thing sometimes. I used to manage a basic skills program at Intel. I had an idea once involving tubs. 1/2
9:02 PM herbRcollins Q5 Persistence can wear out SMEs creating resistance or avoidance on their part. Not good. #lrnchat
9:02 PM Inclusive_Class Watch this video! “Using Visuals to Support Learners” via #TheInclusiveClassProject
https://t.co/nY2HXsfjBq #lrnchat @edchat #spedchat
9:02 PM btopro Q5) I get too invested I ignore my family, friends, sleep. when life is out of balance, the work result doesn’t end up mattering #lrnchat
9:02 PM kelly_smith01 Q5) when I stopped and started counting the sharks in the water #lrnchat
9:02 PM MelMilloway @deacti_vate LOL best story. #lrnchat
9:02 PM jsuzcampos Q5) Failure to acknowledge diminishing returns. #lrnchat
9:02 PM theASIDEblog Top down management and people in power managing up are a recipe for disaster. #lrnchat
9:02 PM JaneBozarth @elearning hi–good to see you in #lrnchat
9:02 PM write2tg A5) When persistence turns into obsession – I know I have to stop! #lrnchat
9:02 PM danno4krist @JaneBozarth Hmmm….true Jane! Thanks, I will 😊 #lrnchat
9:03 PM Plock2009 A5) cigars pipe and whiskey – Unhealthy yet I persist #lrnchat
9:03 PM sobith RT @MrKMaston: @lrnchat A4) When taking a step back to look at the big picture and feel satisfied that you tried and with how far you’ve co…
9:03 PM trainersleaders MT @deacti_vate Persisted until I evaded school’s firewall for a priv. chat room for comp class – 1st time in principal’s office #lrnchat
9:03 PM annasabramowicz @JaneBozarth @jsuzcampos scarf I’ve been knitting is a mess but I’ll wear it with pride when done &amp; then give up knitting for eva! #lrnchat
9:03 PM Jovianshadow #lrnchat Persistence has cost me other work, priorities get mucked up…
9:03 PM lopta @lrnchat A1) Technology, because desperation. #lrnchat
9:03 PM elearning @JaneBozarth I’m a veteran #lrnchat gleaner:-)
9:03 PM urbie #lrnchat A5 Idea was stage materials to deliver during downtime. A peer figured it out. I could have moved on earlier had I handed it off.
9:04 PM duchampian A5) shifting course, learning as you go is not giving up, is the epitome of persistence imho #lrnchat
9:04 PM lrnchat Q6) Do you think persistence internally or externally motivated? Why? #lrnchat
9:04 PM MelMilloway Whenever I haven’t persisted it is because I let other people get to me. I held myself up to other people’s standards. #lrnchat
9:04 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q6) Do you think persistence internally or externally motivated? Why? #lrnchat
9:04 PM avanbarn Q5) Has persistence ever worked against you? Why/how? #lrnchat::: I think when I was trying to make whipped cream, once. Not pretty.
9:04 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q6) Do you think persistence internally or externally motivated? Why? #lrnchat
9:04 PM annasabramowicz RT @lrnchat: Q5) Has persistence ever worked against you? Why/how? #lrnchat
9:04 PM Tracy_Parish Great to have you stop by and join us tonight. #lrnchat https://t.co/hEOwNCrxXw
9:04 PM Tracy_Parish RT @lrnchat: Q6) Do you think persistence internally or externally motivated? Why? #lrnchat
9:04 PM urbie #lrnchat A5 At an #EdCamp I heard someone say we shouldn’t fall in love with our babies (projects). Get others critical eyes to take a look.
9:04 PM deacti_vate A5) I’ve seen people fall into the trap of persisting until they feel it’s perfect… but it was fine 10 iterations ago #lrnchat
9:04 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q6) Do you think persistence internally or externally motivated? Why? #lrnchat
9:04 PM JaneBozarth @danno4krist i was wondering why everyone suddenly jumped to the word “them” #lrnchat
9:04 PM kelly_smith01 RT @Jovianshadow: #lrnchat Persistence has cost me other work, priorities get mucked up…
9:04 PM kregerck RT @lrnchat: Q5) Has persistence ever worked against you? Why/how? #lrnchat
9:04 PM KnowledgeAdvntg Q5) persistence doesn’t help if you don’t have talent i.e. to be an artist knowing when to quit. (missed Q4 – about when to quit #lrnchat
9:05 PM Quinnovator a6) yes: internal when own desire, external when extrinsic rewards that one cares about (e.g. *created* desire) #lrnchat
9:05 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q6) Do you think persistence internally or externally motivated? Why? #lrnchat
9:05 PM herbRcollins Naw. Obsession is when it starts to get interesting. :-) @write2tg #lrnchat https://t.co/Gr1JDAgebv
9:05 PM kregerck RT @urbie: #lrnchat A4 Teaming with others has tremendous potential as a persistence aid. Just because you can’t do something doesn’t other…
9:05 PM MelMilloway A6 I think it is internally motivated but can be elevated or deteriorated by others. #lrnchat https://t.co/D77Q5j3zA9
9:05 PM Tracy_Parish Both. It if is something I am interested in and challenging myself to accomplish it’s entirely internally motiviated. #lrnchat
9:05 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 Yes.
9:05 PM lodtrain a6) persistence for me is internally motivated but sometimes pushed by an external influence family/boss… #lrnchat
9:05 PM JeremyNegrey Q5) if persistence can mean – by extension- obsessive attention to detail, then yes. It certainly wears on my team. #lrnchat
9:05 PM trainersleaders q60 Persistence appears to be both internally &amp; externally motivated: sometimes learn from desire, sometimes because required #lrnchat
9:05 PM Quinnovator darn, it’s hard to catch up on this fast-moving #lrnchat!
9:06 PM dotmem2 Well said. It’s not easy, but that’s a where one’s support system comes in. To keep eyes on the prize. #lrnchat https://t.co/H1CAqEc9i8
9:06 PM lodtrain RT @MelMilloway: A6 I think it is internally motivated but can be elevated or deteriorated by others. #lrnchat https://t.co/D77Q5j3zA9
9:06 PM Tracy_Parish If it has to do with my job, it’s probably more 60/40 on the extrnal motivation scale. #lrnchat
9:06 PM deacti_vate A6) Definitely overlapping. Externally by boss, needing to do well in class, etc. internally by actual desire, goals in life #lrnchat
9:06 PM HenCatherine A4: hen effort is greater than what is being recieved. How do we change lack of motivation? #lrnchat #avilaedtech
9:06 PM kregerck A5) If I keep trying, but it is making me cranky. Everyone loses then! #lrnchat
9:06 PM JeremyDBond A6) The stuff we have to do is external. The stuff we want to do is internal. #lrnchat
9:06 PM willconstantine Q6) motivation is internal persistence and external persistence is for the extrinsic #lrnchat #notsureisaidthatright
9:06 PM lopta @lrnchat A2) Discouraging remarks from other people. The financial cost to tool up. General sense of despair. #lrnchat
9:06 PM trainersleaders Wanted to respond to this, but it flashed by too quickly: RT @Quinnovator darn, it’s hard to catch up on this fast-moving #lrnchat!
9:06 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 Mrs wanting that house in ’96 despite losing her job meant *someone* had to really persist. Mama’s not happy, no one is.
9:06 PM avanbarn “@Quinnovator: a5) probably have pissed a few people off (probably? Ha!) with stubbornness #lrnchat”::: You, Clark? (LOL)
9:06 PM write2tg A6) I think both internal and external motivation are important. One may be more important than the other. #lrnchat
9:06 PM JaneBozarth @annasabramowicz http://t.co/UvXtgkcGfR #lrnchat
9:06 PM Tracy_Parish If it’s something to do with my nephews or brother 100/100% both internal and externally motivated. :) #lrnchat
9:06 PM dbuckedu A6: Must originate from intrinsic motivation in response to external factors like goals, feedback, collaboration, need. #lrnchat
9:06 PM kregerck RT @MelMilloway: A6 I think it is internally motivated but can be elevated or deteriorated by others. #lrnchat https://t.co/D77Q5j3zA9
9:06 PM danno4krist @dbuckedu Hmm…could be tricky tho! S/times, they’re also waiting 4ur success #lrnchat
9:07 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q6) Do you think persistence internally or externally motivated? Why? #lrnchat
9:07 PM lodtrain Persistently participating in #lrnchat internally motivated
9:07 PM Dave_Ferguson I’m imagining a Venn diagram; one circle is PERSISTENCE, one is DENIAL. Overlap area is DON’T BE PIGHEADED. #lrnchat
9:07 PM trainersleaders New mascots for #lrnchat: The Flash &amp; Quicksilver: RT @Quinnovator darn, it’s hard to catch up on this fast-moving #lrnchat!
9:07 PM kregerck RT @lrnchat: Q6) Do you think persistence internally or externally motivated? Why? #lrnchat
9:07 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 Speaking of intrinsic persistence.. wanting to fly (https://t.co/QkzRMIKtcD) will get me one someday. No clue how yet tho.
9:07 PM Quinnovator RT @Dave_Ferguson: I’m imagining a Venn diagram; one circle is PERSISTENCE, one is DENIAL. Overlap area is DON’T BE PIGHEADED. #lrnchat
9:07 PM jsuzcampos Q6) I think it boils down to intrinsic. No one can want it for you more than you want it for yourself. #lrnchat
9:07 PM MelMilloway You can be very good at something but if everyone picks on you then you may not persist. #lrnchat
9:07 PM kregerck RT @duchampian: A5) shifting course, learning as you go is not giving up, is the epitome of persistence imho #lrnchat
9:07 PM ednaks RT @jsuzcampos: Q5) Failure to acknowledge diminishing returns. #lrnchat
9:08 PM JeremyNegrey Q4) you’ve got to draw the line before the total value you will earn is less the resources you expend to get there. #lrnchat
9:08 PM Tracy_Parish RT @jsuzcampos: Q6) I think it boils down to intrinsic. No one can want it for you more than you want it for yourself. #lrnchat
9:08 PM annasabramowicz There are so many situations where being a “quitter” is a good thing… right up there with saying “no”. #lrnchat
9:08 PM JaneBozarth Q6 both . Internal first, but being part of a community of learners helps provide extrinsic. #lrnchat
9:08 PM herbRcollins Q6 Both. Persistence externally motivated by life needs such as work. Internally motivated by passion and drive and love. #lrnchat
9:08 PM duchampian @Quinnovator tell me about it +the draft +hotel bar conversation +chardonnay geesh #lrnchat problems
9:08 PM milandobrota A6: It could be both internally and externally motivated #lrnchat
9:08 PM KnowledgeAdvntg Q6) persistence is internal and external – there’s a driving force – external that must respond to meet it – internal.#lrnchat
9:09 PM dbuckedu Great point, especially when others have expectations that don’t align with your internal motivation. #lrnchat https://t.co/YpOTVGMMA3
9:09 PM sobith Q6) definitely internal coz its curiosity which drives it #lrnchat
9:09 PM lrnchat Q7) What is the role of persistence in community? Can persistence be shared is it an individual effort? #lrnchat
9:09 PM EmmanuelleEN RT @Dave_Ferguson: I’m imagining a Venn diagram; one circle is PERSISTENCE, one is DENIAL. Overlap area is DON’T BE PIGHEADED. #lrnchat
9:09 PM avanbarn A6: it can be either, of course – I think if it’s external, I may feel less ownership of it. Not sure. #lrnchat”
9:09 PM Sandola RT @herbRcollins: Q6 Both. Persistence externally motivated by life needs such as work. Internally motivated by passion and drive and love.…
9:09 PM trainersleaders Observation about #lrnchat lightning rounds: more challenging/inspiring than the force of nature that provided the nomenclature #fried
9:09 PM JaneBozarth @willconstantine lol good enough #lrnchat
9:09 PM JeremyDBond RT @jsuzcampos: Q6) I think it boils down to intrinsic. No one can want it for you more than you want it for yourself. #lrnchat
9:09 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q7) What is the role of persistence in community? Can persistence be shared is it an individual effort? #lrnchat
9:09 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q7) What is the role of persistence in community? Can persistence be shared is it an individual effort? #lrnchat
9:10 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q6) Do you think persistence internally or externally motivated? Why? #lrnchat
9:10 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q7) What is the role of persistence in community? Can persistence be shared is it an individual effort? #lrnchat
9:10 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A6) Both. What we do and think, especially our motivations – all shaped by the dance between biology and socialisation #lrnchat
9:10 PM deacti_vate A7) Well I’ve spent plenty a midnight oil with project teams #lrnchat that’s persistance with a community right? #NeverAgain
9:10 PM Quinnovator a7) interesting q. I think may be a cultural value that can be shared, cultivated #lrnchat
9:10 PM jsuzcampos Q7) Community can provide both a great sense of support when things get tough AND accountability when you’re close to giving up. #lrnchat
9:10 PM HenCatherine A1: persisted until I mastered the foundations of music theory. I did this to further my opera singing. #avilaedtech #lrnchat
9:10 PM JaneBozarth RT @trainersleaders: Observation about #lrnchat lightning rounds: more challenging/inspiring than the force of nature that provided the nom…
9:10 PM RoundAboutChat RT @Inclusive_Class: Watch this video! “Using Visuals to Support Learners” via #TheInclusiveClassProject
https://t.co/nY2HXsfjBq #lrnchat …
9:10 PM write2tg A7) All team achievements are made of shared persistence! #lrnchat
9:10 PM KnowledgeAdvntg Q6) all internal motivation / persistence has an outward drive – we are motivated internally for an external recognition or goal #lrnchat
9:10 PM lopta @lrnchat A3) Emphasise the positive. Promote affordable tools. Encourage. #lrnchat
9:10 PM annasabramowicz Q7) I think persistence in teams is like a baton, when you get tired, you pass it on and someone else can take the next sprint #lrnchat
9:10 PM MelMilloway A7 Having a support system helps people persist. I would say more than not having one. #lrnchat https://t.co/yo9DIPlqyP
9:10 PM Dave_Ferguson Ultimate in external “motivation” – barrier troops in WW II Red Army, intended to block “deserters” and “spies.” #lrnchat
9:10 PM lodtrain RT @Quinnovator: a7) interesting q. I think may be a cultural value that can be shared, cultivated #lrnchat
9:11 PM lodtrain RT @write2tg: A7) All team achievements are made of shared persistence! #lrnchat
9:11 PM trainersleaders q7) One role of persistence in a learning community: makes us realize it takes time to create something as valuable as community #lrnchat
9:11 PM JaneBozarth @trainersleaders confession: we had so many good Qs we couldn’t cut any #lrnchat
9:11 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 Maybe off topic.. I was in military during peacetime. Even so, long hours under hazardous conditions.. shipmates kept me going.
9:11 PM dotmem2 A6) Intrinsic. External may help get you started, but to stick with something or surmount obstacles – that takes internal drive. #lrnchat
9:11 PM dbuckedu A7: Yes! Best part of persistence is that it can be modeled. Kids can learn it from observing parents. #lrnchat
9:11 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q7) What is the role of persistence in community? Can persistence be shared is it an individual effort? #lrnchat
9:11 PM EmmanuelleEN @lrnchat Q6 #lrnchat As humans are social, anything extrinsic is socially motivated, which is threfore in part intrinsic&gt; We like to fit in
9:11 PM duchampian A7) It’s called healthy competition, no? #lrnchat
9:11 PM Tracy_Parish Agree, but I think before that even happens you end up “cheering” each other on anyways. #lrnchat https://t.co/dorpplYl9C
9:11 PM theASIDEblog Persistence requires stamina – not for the drive, but for the acceptance of failure. #lrnchat
9:11 PM nsamuell A7) Communities exist about as long as at least a core membership persists. But handing over the reins is difficult #lrnchat
9:11 PM JaneBozarth @annasabramowicz yes that #lrnchat
9:11 PM JaneBozarth RT @annasabramowicz: Q7) I think persistence in teams is like a baton, when you get tired, you pass it on and someone else can take the nex…
9:11 PM Quinnovator a7) is there a difference between persistence and commitment? #lrnchat
9:11 PM danno4krist A6) Maybe its internal for me… though it can also be increased from external sources #lrnchat https://t.co/uefKykZjDb
9:11 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 So shared pain or feeling others’ and wanting to salve can work miracles.
9:11 PM willconstantine Q7) We like to think we have individual persistence towards something but in the bigger picture we are going towards the same goal #lrnchat
9:11 PM trainersleaders RT @dbuckedu A7: Yes! Best part of persistence is that it can be modeled. Kids can learn it from observing parents. #lrnchat
9:11 PM EmmanuelleEN RT @lrnchat: Q7) What is the role of persistence in community? Can persistence be shared is it an individual effort? #lrnchat
9:11 PM deacti_vate A7) I definitely gain a lot of inspiration from community, makes me continually persist to be better #lrnchat
9:11 PM lodtrain RT @trainersleaders: q7) One role of persistence in a learning community: makes us realize it takes time to create something as valuable as…
9:11 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q7) What is the role of persistence in community? Can persistence be shared is it an individual effort? #lrnchat
9:11 PM jyoti__gupta #lrnchat a7) probably easier to motivate a group when you have a common goal or common reward, or only get reward if ALL get reward
9:11 PM JeremyDBond A7) Group persistence is what brings real change. Like social justice. It’s a perfect melding of internal and external motivation. #lrnchat
9:12 PM lodtrain RT @Quinnovator: a7) is there a difference between persistence and commitment? #lrnchat
9:12 PM JaneBozarth Welcome to tonight’s #lrnchat, in which @annasabramowicz demonstrate our shared brain
9:12 PM urbie #lrnchat A7 Uh oh. My last two A6 responses woulda gone well for this answer.
9:12 PM danno4krist @write2tg Great perspective Taruna! #lrnchat
9:12 PM write2tg A7) Persistence can become a part of the learning culture and when it is a shared value, goals are met. #lrnchat
9:12 PM kelly_smith01 Primarily persistence is an internal motivation for me – (unless there is an under the table bribe) #lrnchat
9:12 PM milandobrota A7: Of course it can be shared. :) #lrnchat
9:12 PM JaneBozarth @Quinnovator good q #lrnchat
9:12 PM btopro A7 individuals acting as collective foster persistence. open arms, open hearts, positivity is contagious in collectives #lrnchat
9:12 PM JaneBozarth RT @Quinnovator: a7) is there a difference between persistence and commitment? #lrnchat
9:12 PM dotmem2 RT @dbuckedu: A7: Yes! Best part of persistence is that it can be modeled. Kids can learn it from observing parents. #lrnchat
9:12 PM Tracy_Parish I think so, but it comes down to an emotional involvement in the end goal/task. #lrnchat https://t.co/3wyQoTE4zW
9:12 PM lopta @lrnchat A4) When you’ve learned what you can learn and found another path forward. #lrnchat
9:12 PM KnowledgeAdvntg Q7) persistence can be cultivated within a team environment – tho it has to be a really cohesive one #lrnchat
9:12 PM trainersleaders Fair game; great #learning #challenge: RT @JaneBozarth @trainersleaders confession: we had so many good Qs we couldn’t cut any #lrnchat
9:13 PM lodtrain RT @btopro: A7 individuals acting as collective foster persistence. open arms, open hearts, positivity is contagious in collectives #lrnchat
9:13 PM jsuzcampos I think of persistence as involving much more effort than commitment a7) is there a difference between persistence and commitment? #lrnchat
9:13 PM MelMilloway Even if a community is not supporting you, you should still persist if it is what you enjoy. Don’t let others get to you. #lrnchat
9:13 PM kregerck RT @theASIDEblog: Persistence requires stamina – not for the drive, but for the acceptance of failure. #lrnchat
9:13 PM annasabramowicz @JaneBozarth if you wanna come up with a “brangelina” type name for us… I’m game #lrnchat
9:13 PM urbie #lrnchat A7 On TV police dramas going after the perp is a community of practice effort. So in art then yes.
9:13 PM duchampian I’m always impressed by how differently people in interpret many of the #lrnchat questions. It’s a beautiful thing (mostly)
9:13 PM dbuckedu Yes! Especially when we view the positive outcomes coming out of places like Baltimore. Community goals. #lrnchat https://t.co/sJ4KVV9Z9B
9:13 PM Dave_Ferguson @Quinnovator To me commitment suggests external more (e.g. to a project, ideal); persistence suggests internal. Connotation tho. #lrnchat
9:13 PM trainersleaders We’re allowed to bring brains? MT @JaneBozarth Welcome to tonight’s #lrnchat, in which @annasabramowicz demonstrate our shared brain
9:13 PM Quinnovator @annasabramowicz @JaneBozarth Janna? BoSabra? #lrnchat
9:14 PM JaneBozarth May be that the Thing is shared. You do the fractions, I’ll do the rhymes. #lrnchat
9:14 PM PatriceKiraly RT @lrnchat: Q6) Do you think persistence internally or externally motivated? Why? #lrnchat
9:14 PM avanbarn A7: I think persistence can definitely be a community endeavour and’ in times of disaster! often is. #lrnchat
9:14 PM lopta @lrnchat A5) Probably …but I can’t think of a significant example. #lrnchat
9:14 PM kelly_smith01 RT @JaneBozarth: Q6 both . Internal first, but being part of a community of learners helps provide extrinsic. #lrnchat
9:14 PM Dave_Ferguson @duchampian Beautiful except when it drives you nuts. ;-) #lrnchat
9:14 PM lrnchat Q8) What is the relationship between persistence and learning?. Are they co-dependent? #lrnchat
9:14 PM urbie #lrnchat A7 At Intel I helped open two Pentium factories (I was an MT/Automation trainer). Being a plank-owner was wonderful.
9:14 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q8) What is the relationship between persistence and learning?. Are they co-dependent? #lrnchat
9:14 PM jyoti__gupta a7) #lrnchat persistence is proof of commitment
9:14 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q8) What is the relationship between persistence and learning?. Are they co-dependent? #lrnchat
9:14 PM kregerck RT @jsuzcampos: Q7) Community can provide both a great sense of support when things get tough AND accountability when you’re close to givin…
9:14 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q8) What is the relationship between persistence and learning?. Are they co-dependent? #lrnchat
9:14 PM Tracy_Parish I suggest @ AnnaBozarthowicz or @ JaneSambramarth #lrnchat https://t.co/FKg2uqlT3z
9:14 PM EmmanuelleEN RT @lrnchat: Q8) What is the relationship between persistence and learning?. Are they co-dependent? #lrnchat
9:14 PM avanbarn A7: collaborative learning could also be an exercise in persistence within a community #lrnchat
9:15 PM JeremyDBond .@jsuzcampos #Commitment, which gets you moving, is a prerequisite to #persistence, which keeps you moving. #lrnchat
9:15 PM jsuzcampos Q8) You may persist, but without learning, you will not persist AND improve. #lrnchat
9:15 PM kregerck RT @lrnchat: Q7) What is the role of persistence in community? Can persistence be shared is it an individual effort? #lrnchat
9:15 PM dotmem2 A7) Community allows for fwd movement rather than giving up. It can introduce you to others who can assist and sustain you. #lrnchat
9:15 PM JaneBozarth @duchampian beleive it or not we spend a lot of time anticipating that when we’re writing them. And still miss some… #lrnchat
9:15 PM JeremyNegrey A6) intrinsic. I work for a paycheck, but it’s not for the paycheck itself – it’s what it allows me to do for my family. #lrnchat
9:15 PM lopta @lrnchat A6) Externally up to a point. Ultimately it’s internal though: there’s only so much you’ll endure for the audience. #lrnchat
9:15 PM MelMilloway A8 When you are applying what you learn you won’t always be 100% right, you have to get back on the horse. #lrnchat https://t.co/h4pCrKPFUo
9:15 PM sobith A7) movements lead to revolution; movement=persistence; community=sharing #lrnchat
9:15 PM Tracy_Parish RT @jsuzcampos: Q8) You may persist, but without learning, you will not persist AND improve. #lrnchat
9:16 PM Quinnovator RT @JeremyDBond: .@jsuzcampos #Commitment, which gets you moving, is a prerequisite to #persistence, which keeps you moving. #lrnchat
9:16 PM JaneBozarth RT @urbie: #lrnchat A7 At Intel I helped open two Pentium factories (I was an MT/Automation trainer). Being a plank-owner was wonderful.
9:16 PM trainersleaders q8) One element of relationship between persistence &amp; learning: in right situation, they can seamlessly support each other #lrnchat
9:16 PM lodtrain a8) persistence helps you meet a goal, learning is the result of your persistence #lrnchat
9:16 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q8) What is the relationship between persistence and learning?. Are they co-dependent? #lrnchat
9:16 PM Dave_Ferguson “Learning” a mighty big label. Me: great deal of basic learning (receive, store, retrieve, apply) occurs w/o much persistence. #lrnchat
9:16 PM write2tg A8) Learning can happen without persistence. But with every project of persistence, there is something to learn. #lrnchat
9:16 PM Tracy_Parish RT @Dave_Ferguson: “Learning” a mighty big label. Me: great deal of basic learning (receive, store, retrieve, apply) occurs w/o much persis…
9:16 PM dbuckedu A8: Learning is predicated on persistence, but I’m not sure persistence always leads to learning. Can be persistent 4 wrong reason. #lrnchat
9:16 PM jyoti__gupta #lrnchat a8) not always. some things you can learn on the first try. no persistence needed
9:16 PM JeremyNegrey A7) History shows examples of community persistence, but it’s few &amp; far between. Usually when existence itself is threatened. #lrnchat
9:16 PM danno4krist A8) Almost no learning without some form of persistence! #lrnchat https://t.co/OYafr7x8b2
9:16 PM avanbarn “@Quinnovator: a7) is there a difference between persistence and commitment? #lrnchat”::: need commitment to persist, yes? Vice versa?
9:16 PM kregerck Somehow I am 2 questions behind! But I will persist! #lrnchat
9:16 PM KnowledgeAdvntg Q8) learning requires persistence or focus or concentration – it can still be fun – but learning is work. yes codependent #lrnchat
9:16 PM urbie #lrnchat A8 Yes. Cool thing: people learning don’t have to do much persisting themselves. Put it in a story so they FEEL others’ helps them.
9:16 PM JaneBozarth @MrKMaston @trainersleaders later we’ll probably say “ontology”, too. #lrnchat
9:16 PM EmmanuelleEN Q8 #lrnchat Persistence has to do with growth mindset (Dweck). So does learning.
9:16 PM Quinnovator RT @avanbarn: “@Quinnovator: a7) is there a difference between persistence and commitment? #lrnchat”::: need commitment to persist, yes? V…
9:16 PM lopta @lrnchat A7) It can be modelled for a community and if enough people buy in, perhaps exhibited by one. #lrnchat
9:16 PM annasabramowicz @EmmanuelleEN @lrnchat Sounds like “player types” from game theory – although some people are just motivated by ultimate glory :) #lrnchat
9:17 PM trainersleaders q8) If something is easy enough to learn, persistence may not be necessary; if it’s difficult, lack of persistence=failure #lrnchat
9:17 PM Tracy_Parish It is a quick one tonight. :) #lrnchat https://t.co/AVK9P1TiU5
9:17 PM milandobrota @dbuckedu Well, extrinsic doesn’t mean it’s imposed by others. It simply means it’s indirect e.g. money, pwr, fame, social status #lrnchat
9:17 PM Quinnovator gesundheit #lrnchat https://t.co/RjqEBY9pte
9:17 PM MelMilloway @Dave_Ferguson Yes! Applying! #lrnchat
9:17 PM deacti_vate A8) I can persistently bang my head against the wall and not learn anything new #lrnchat so…
9:17 PM danno4krist True friend! Not all persistence leads to learning! #lrnchat https://t.co/tDGQ94YBub
9:17 PM Dave_Ferguson Higher Bloom-level learning requires duration, feedback, reflection, etc., and so persistence. #lrnchat
9:17 PM kelly_smith01 Q7) Persistence can be shared as part of collaborative efforts within communities &amp; with those on the edge #lrnchat
9:17 PM szopa333 Q8) You may persist, but without learning, you will not persist AND improve. #lrnchat
9:17 PM Quinnovator RT @szopa333: Q8) You may persist, but without learning, you will not persist AND improve. #lrnchat
9:17 PM write2tg This chat is a persistence test. That was the plan all along :) RT @kregerck Somehow I am 2 questions behind! But I will persist! #lrnchat
9:17 PM Dave_Ferguson @MelMilloway I don’t know what learning is if not applying, even if it’s covert application. #lrnchat
9:18 PM lopta @lrnchat A8) I’ve said in the past that a degree is primarily a test of endurance. That’s certainly true in my case. #lrnchat
9:18 PM danno4krist LOL! Guess it was a tricky one for us all from @lrnchat just to model persistence tonight at #lrnchat https://t.co/wkqXj68Nrv
9:18 PM milandobrota RT @MelMilloway: Even if a community is not supporting you, you should still persist if it is what you enjoy. Don’t let others get to you. …
9:18 PM MelMilloway @Dave_Ferguson It’s all about the doin’ #lrnchat
9:18 PM annasabramowicz @Tracy_Parish For sure… you have to take on those two jobs the cheering and the running #lrnchat
9:18 PM HenCatherine A8: if you persist with your students it either motivates them or does the complete opposite. #avilaedtech #lrnchat
9:18 PM avanbarn #lrnchat This chat is moving so fast today with so many questions. Why?
9:18 PM sobith A8) Curiosity makes us persistent which drives learning #lrnchat
9:18 PM Dave_Ferguson Practice (persistence) does not make perfect, but permanent. Ease to embed bad performance. #lrnchat
9:18 PM urbie #lrnchat A8 Deep thought.. if you’re REALLY into what you’re doing/learning to where you go flow state, is it still persistence? #unordinary
9:18 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q8) What is the relationship between persistence and learning?. Are they co-dependent? #lrnchat
9:18 PM annasabramowicz @deacti_vate @Quinnovator @JaneBozarth I’ll get those T-shirts ready? Who wants one? #lrnchat
9:19 PM danno4krist @kregerck You’re not alone Christine, I’m persisting too…#lrnchat
9:19 PM JeremyNegrey @jyoti__gupta totally agree #lrnchat
9:19 PM adkpiper Oh hey #lrnchat. Check out how I thought it started an hour later than it actually does. #duh #longday
9:19 PM avanbarn #lrnchat There’s another one – maybe rapid rate of change is a discouragement to persistence. Just saying…
9:19 PM lrnchat Q9) How does persistence impact performance? #lrnchat
9:19 PM duchampian A8) Persistence is the long countryside road of learning. #lovepoems #lrnchat #purplerain
9:19 PM MelMilloway I have so much coffee. I am going to be up all. #lrnchat
9:19 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q9) How does persistence impact performance? #lrnchat
9:19 PM jsuzcampos RT @duchampian: A8) Persistence is the long countryside road of learning. #lovepoems #lrnchat #purplerain
9:19 PM urbie #lrnchat A8 Wonder if Einstein’s TofR with they bicycle dude applies to persistence?
9:19 PM dbuckedu Absolutely — both direct and direct factors can be challenges to internal motivation. #lrnchat https://t.co/tgBLzzvdVm
9:19 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q9) How does persistence impact performance? #lrnchat
9:19 PM willconstantine Q8) I think persistence can lead to deeper understanding. Initial learning is due to curiosity #lrnchat
9:19 PM kregerck RT @Dave_Ferguson: “Learning” a mighty big label. Me: great deal of basic learning (receive, store, retrieve, apply) occurs w/o much persis…
9:19 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q9) How does persistence impact performance? #lrnchat
9:19 PM trainersleaders Our #lrnchat organizers moved their clocks ahead; must catch up: MT @avanbarn This chat is moving so fast today with so many questions. Why?
9:19 PM EmmanuelleEN @annasabramowicz #lrnchat Still, “ultimate glory” ties in to social prestige. The intrinsic/extrinsit business is not so easily untangled.
9:20 PM JeremyDBond A8) If there’s any need to persist, that implies obstacles. #Learning is the natural process to overcome them. #personalgrowth #lrnchat
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9:20 PM Quinnovator a9) persistence can lead to good performance if it breaks thru barriers; perhaps can impede if keeps you from moving on #lrnchat
9:20 PM Dave_Ferguson @avanbarn Rapid change is absolutely a deterrent to many. Change agents often forget many are perfectly content. #lrnchat
9:20 PM kregerck RT @lrnchat: Q9) How does persistence impact performance? #lrnchat
9:20 PM jsuzcampos RT @JeremyDBond: A8) If there’s any need to persist, that implies obstacles. #Learning is the natural process to overcome them. #personalgr…
9:20 PM EmmanuelleEN RT @lrnchat: Q9) How does persistence impact performance? #lrnchat
9:20 PM deacti_vate @annasabramowicz @Quinnovator @JaneBozarth do a remake w/ the uke https://t.co/hbNQF7sjoA #Jananna #lrnchat
9:20 PM dotmem2 A8) Codependent? No. Symbiotic, yes. Learning+visible progress spur prolonged participation in activity, which can lead to more…#lrnchat
9:20 PM Tracy_Parish Persistence can get you bogged down on details that halt your performance momentum. #lrnchat
9:20 PM avanbarn “@kregerck: Somehow I am 2 questions behind! But I will persist! #lrnchat”::: LOL!!!
9:21 PM Quinnovator @avanbarn they wanted to see if you’re persistent? #lrnchat
9:21 PM urbie #lrnchat A9 Persistence can impact performance via bruising. How many times have you held head up high because you did something that hurt?
9:21 PM MelMilloway A9 I think it can be tiring but also rewarding. Once you see results you are more driven to do it again. #lrnchat https://t.co/vXpTU4o5JG
9:21 PM lodtrain a9) persistence impacts your approach and tenacity to learn, your performance depends on how well you learn #lrnchat
9:21 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q9) How does persistence impact performance? #lrnchat
9:21 PM milandobrota A9: It helps, unless you overdo it and it burns you out #lrnchat
9:21 PM Dave_Ferguson .@Quinnovator Consistency we like: persistence. Consistency we don’t stubbornness or resistance. Front line folks know this. #lrnchat
9:21 PM dbuckedu A9: Quality of performance can be affected when persistence is lacking. Can’t be satisfied with first attempts at times. #lrnchat
9:21 PM Plock2009 RT @avanbarn: “@kregerck: Somehow I am 2 questions behind! But I will persist! #lrnchat”::: LOL!!!
9:21 PM trainersleaders q9) If persistence produces positive/valuable results, it by definition impacts performance positively–nice payoff #lrnchat
9:21 PM Quinnovator RT @Dave_Ferguson: .@Quinnovator Consistency we like: persistence. Consistency we don’t stubbornness or resistance. Front line folks know t…
9:21 PM write2tg A9) I think we need to choose our projects for persistence wisely. It is an energy-consuming activity. #lrnchat
9:21 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q9) How does persistence impact performance? #lrnchat
9:21 PM danno4krist LOL…So not all persistence leads to learning! #lrnchat The Q is what are you being persitent in? https://t.co/0DXTCcnPFG
9:22 PM kregerck RT @MelMilloway: A9 I think it can be tiring but also rewarding. Once you see results you are more driven to do it again. #lrnchat https:/…
9:22 PM deacti_vate A9) Well, see, when I want to stay within budget and your persistence is making me go over budget then you’re not performing hotly. #lrnchat
9:22 PM JaneBozarth @trainersleaders @avanbarn allow me to introduce you to Diet Mt Dew #lrnchat
9:22 PM JaneBozarth @trainersleaders @avanbarn allow me to introduce you to Diet Mt Dew #lrnchat
9:22 PM willconstantine Q9) in that case it is a friend or foe. Friend if achieving performance, foe if preventing performance #lrnchat
9:22 PM jsuzcampos Q9) Persistence: betterment is perpetual labor. ~Gawande #lrnchat
9:22 PM EmmanuelleEN Q9 #lrnchat Well, the 10 000 hours rule says it all ;)
9:22 PM trainersleaders MT @milandobrota A9: It [persistence in learning] helps, unless you overdo it and it burns you out #lrnchat
9:22 PM lodtrain RT @write2tg: A9) I think we need to choose our projects for persistence wisely. It is an energy-consuming activity. #lrnchat
9:22 PM lodtrain RT @trainersleaders: q9) If persistence produces positive/valuable results, it by definition impacts performance positively–nice payoff #l…
9:22 PM Quinnovator RT @jsuzcampos: Q9) Persistence: betterment is perpetual labor. ~Gawande #lrnchat
9:22 PM lodtrain RT @willconstantine: Q9) in that case it is a friend or foe. Friend if achieving performance, foe if preventing performance #lrnchat
9:22 PM annasabramowicz @EmmanuelleEN I love this topic -Gabe Zimmerman had a great talk at Google about intrinsic motivation being dead (in 2005) Right! #lrnchat
9:22 PM urbie #lrnchat A9 In Navy, Intel it was cheaper, faster, better. Persistence, in and of itself, isn’t a performance enhancer. Sometimes it’s dumb.
9:22 PM kregerck RT @write2tg: A9) I think we need to choose our projects for persistence wisely. It is an energy-consuming activity. #lrnchat
9:22 PM trainersleaders On the theme of “the value of persistence in learning”: RT @EmmanuelleEN Q9 #lrnchat Well, the 10 000 hours rule says it all ;)
9:23 PM kelly_smith01 Q9/ Practice, practice, practice #lrnchat
9:23 PM Dave_Ferguson The people who are still using WordPerfect (or, for all I know, WordStar) are relentlessly persistent. #lrnchat
9:23 PM deacti_vate A9) It does totally depend on how your performance is measured, or who’s measuring it. #lrnchat
9:23 PM urbie #lrnchat A9 Persistence with feedback, scaffolding can have a significant impact on performance. Don’t go it alone. Be smart about it.
9:23 PM danno4krist @avanbarn It’s the persistence test Angela! A good way to learn persistence is by just simply being persistent! #lrnchat
9:23 PM urbie RT @dbuckedu: Absolutely — both direct and direct factors can be challenges to internal motivation. #lrnchat https://t.co/tgBLzzvdVm
9:23 PM annasabramowicz @EmmanuelleEN He obviously missed the community aspect.. but there is a way to influence this as well &amp; yes hard to untangle #lrnchat
9:23 PM Plock2009 A9) when persisting to master the old version of the software…(cuz can’t egg the update approved by IT) #lrnchat
9:23 PM Dave_Ferguson Like 20 years experience (1 year repeated 19 times), the 10,000 hours can be 1,000 hours + 9,000 hrs of war story. #lrnchat
9:23 PM write2tg A9) Not all persistence leads to performance. Sometimes, this can move us away from not only that goal but other related goals. #lrnchat
9:23 PM sobith RT @willconstantine: Q9) in that case it is a friend or foe. Friend if achieving performance, foe if preventing performance #lrnchat
9:24 PM deacti_vate @avanbarn they warned at the beginning it was a lightening round! #lrnchat (gotta be persistent, right? :P)
9:24 PM MelMilloway @willconstantine I feel like you could make that a visual in a comic haha. #lrnchat angel v. devil.
9:24 PM urbie RT @Quinnovator: a9) persistence can lead to good performance if it breaks thru barriers; perhaps can impede if keeps you from moving on #l…
9:24 PM lrnchat Q10) What is something that you learned, surprised you, or you’ll do different after from tonight’s chat? #lrnchat
9:24 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q10) What is something that you learned, surprised you, or you’ll do different after from tonight’s chat? #lrnchat
9:24 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q10) What is something that you learned, surprised you, or you’ll do different after from tonight’s chat? #lrnchat
9:24 PM trainersleaders Wait! Wait! I’m still getting to know the Internet; #InfoOverload: RT @JaneBozarth allow me to introduce you to Diet Mt Dew #lrnchat
9:24 PM KnowledgeAdvntg Q9) Persistence may lead to improved perf but it not, that may mean you’re not doing something right, need to change direction #lrnchat
9:24 PM JaneBozarth @MrKMaston @trainersleaders reification #lrnchat
9:24 PM adkpiper A9 persistence is good but not infinitely so—sometimes you have to cut your losses. But up until that point, it’s key. #lrnchat
9:24 PM urbie #lrnchat A9 That Clint Eastwood character in Heartbreak Ridge: Improvise, overcome, adapt. How your persist matters. #unordinary
9:24 PM dotmem2 RT @write2tg: A9) Not all persistence leads to performance. Sometimes, this can move us away from not only that goal but other related goal…
9:25 PM lopta @lrnchat A9) I think that depends what you’re persistent about: if you keep banging your head against a wall, it doesn’t help. #lrnchat
9:25 PM Tracy_Parish Q10) I’m surprised that I liked the lightning format. Quick yes, but there was a ton of great information packed into the hour. #lrnchat
9:25 PM KnowledgeAdvntg Q9) Can’t have blind persistence and expect performance results #lrnchat
9:25 PM kregerck RT @lrnchat: Q10) What is something that you learned, surprised you, or you’ll do different after from tonight’s chat? #lrnchat
9:25 PM willconstantine @MelMilloway maybe @LearnNuggets would want to do an interpretation? #lrnchat
9:25 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q10) What is something that you learned, surprised you, or you’ll do different after from tonight’s chat? #lrnchat
9:25 PM trainersleaders Not fair: you’re making me spend more time looking up words than tweeting: RT @JaneBozarth @MrKMaston @trainersleaders reification #lrnchat
9:25 PM willconstantine Q10) I can’t believe we are at 10! #lrnchat
9:25 PM danno4krist @avanbarn That’s where u come in Angela! Face it, it’s just a way to push u off…Don’t allow it! Keep at it, success at d corner #lrnchat
9:25 PM dbuckedu A10: Surprised by how all-consuming persistence is to daily life. Can be applied in any facet of our experience! #lrnchat
9:25 PM Quinnovator @Tracy_Parish not sure; wasn’t as much time for reflection #lrnchat
9:25 PM urbie #lrnchat A9 Humor, too, along with persistence can yield tremendous gains in performance.
9:25 PM annasabramowicz @deacti_vate @Quinnovator @JaneBozarth I just attended a cardboard box parade (small town) these guys were in it + YES! #Jananna #lrnchat
9:25 PM lodtrain a10) learned that it is great to be persistent in attending #lrnchat so that I can continue to learn lots of stuff from this community
9:26 PM lodtrain RT @willconstantine: Q10) I can’t believe we are at 10! #lrnchat
9:26 PM write2tg A10) Persistence can be a friend or a foe. #lrnchat
9:26 PM willconstantine Q10) pay attention to how I persist and what the outcome is. #lrnchat
9:26 PM JeremyDBond @urbie ya know, at that point it probably doesn’t matter. Time to feel good about yourself. #lrnchat
9:26 PM Dave_Ferguson #lrnchat Persistent Calum MacLeod, spent 10 years building 1.75 miles of road — by himself. http://t.co/UbxTxh2hcz
9:26 PM urbie RT @JeremyDBond: @urbie ya know, at that point it probably doesn’t matter. Time to feel good about yourself. #lrnchat
9:26 PM kregerck A9) Hopefully persistence pays off and can increase performance. #lrnchat
9:26 PM JustRogering @lrnchat A10) not miss next weeks #lrnchat like I did this weeks.
9:26 PM annasabramowicz RT @EmmanuelleEN: Q8 #lrnchat Persistence has to do with growth mindset (Dweck). So does learning.
9:26 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q10) What is something that you learned, surprised you, or you’ll do different after from tonight’s chat? #lrnchat
9:26 PM avanbarn “@Quinnovator: @avanbarn they wanted to see if you’re persistent? #lrnchat” I am such a good lab rat!!!
9:26 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q10) What is something that you learned, surprised you, or you’ll do different after from tonight’s chat? #lrnchat
9:26 PM Dave_Ferguson I do not know what Mrs. MacLeod thought of Calum’s persistence, or his accomplishment. #lrnchat
9:26 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A10) I learned that I need to update my vocabulary, thanks to @JaneBozarth &amp; @trainersleaders #lrnchat
9:27 PM sobith A10) Reflect before I decide to persist #lrnchat
9:27 PM JaneBozarth @trainersleaders @avanbarn we want to keep the veteran #lrnchat-ters on their toes #ShakeItUp
9:27 PM trainersleaders q10) Something I’ll do differently after tonight’s #lrnchat: bring extra sets of hands/eyes/brains to lightning-round tweetchats
9:27 PM MelMilloway This. #lrnchat http://t.co/shRJA83sCF
9:27 PM lopta @lrnchat A10) If I persist with #lrnchat it’ll get dark outside before I put the lawnmower away.
9:27 PM trainersleaders #MissionAccomplished: RT @JaneBozarth we want to keep the veteran #lrnchat-ters on their toes #ShakeItUp
9:27 PM dotmem2 A10) Keep persisting &amp; creating rather than giving into the temptation of pursuing what’s easy or safe. #lrnchat
9:27 PM lodtrain RT @trainersleaders: q10) Something I’ll do differently after tonight’s #lrnchat: bring extra sets of hands/eyes/brains to lightning-round …
9:27 PM Tracy_Parish Reflect on it tomorrow and right a blog post for us. :) #lrnchat https://t.co/Ywrp44PyfW
9:27 PM Quinnovator a10) try not to have distractions during a lightning storm chat #lrnchat
9:27 PM JustRogering @MelMilloway @willconstantine @LearnNuggets for who? #lrnchat
9:27 PM kregerck A10) Be more mindful of my persistence. Remind my self of the end goal AND reflect on what I learn along the way. #lrnchat
9:27 PM JaneBozarth RT @adkpiper: A9 persistence is good but not infinitely so—sometimes you have to cut your losses. But up until that point, it’s key. #lrnch…
9:27 PM write2tg A10) Persistence can drain you and it can motivate you. As Yoda would say “When to persist, choose wisely you must.” #lrnchat
9:27 PM danno4krist Learning + visible progress spur prolonged participation….. True Maria! #lrnchat https://t.co/NY9LhhbSsR
9:28 PM annasabramowicz @Dave_Ferguson @MelMilloway I like that “covert application” he he! #lrnchat
9:28 PM urbie #lrnchat A10 I had a meeting with a client today. Tight deadline. Ideating like crazy (dumb ideas) helped us get to #EduWin. 1/2
9:28 PM deacti_vate A10) honestly, I have always been wary of “persistence” – I did learn more about how positively people view it #lrnchat
9:28 PM trainersleaders Something learned from this #lrnchat session: RT @Quinnovator a10) try not to have distractions during a lightning storm chat #lrnchat
9:28 PM urbie #lrnchat A10 What keeps us at it, chatting away about persistence long into the night? Enjoying others’ company.
9:28 PM annasabramowicz @sobith Does not always work for cats though? :P #lrnchat
9:28 PM kregerck RT @dotmem2: A10) Keep persisting &amp; creating rather than giving into the temptation of pursuing what’s easy or safe. #lrnchat
9:28 PM avanbarn “@write2tg: A9) Curious – do you think one must plan their persistence on projects? #lrnchat”
9:28 PM Dave_Ferguson .@annasabramowicz I’m serious. If you say “I learned Finnish,” what’s the proof? You read the newspaper? Covert (just you). #lrnchat
9:29 PM EmmanuelleEN RT @annasabramowicz: @EmmanuelleEN He obviously missed the community aspect.. but there is a way to influence this as well &amp; yes hard to un…
9:29 PM Quinnovator RT @kregerck: A10) Be more mindful of my persistence. Remind my self of the end goal AND reflect on what I learn along the way. #lrnchat
9:29 PM danno4krist A10) No real learning w/out some form of persistence! Keep at it Daniel…#lrnchat https://t.co/u2LTk9jAU0
9:29 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A9) 140 characters is just not going to cut it. Here goes: persistence is positively correlated with performance #lrnchat
9:29 PM lrnchat QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:29 PM annasabramowicz @EmmanuelleEN Yes, I think I spelled his name right (bald, funny – likes Mary Poppins) #lrnchat
9:29 PM MelMilloway @dotmem2 LOL I lost where I was in #lrnchat looking for that photo.
9:29 PM jyoti__gupta @deacti_vate Agree – lots of different views about it. Interesting to see how some people own persistence – regardless of the cost #lrnchat
9:29 PM Tracy_Parish Not necessarily, but that’s an interesting thought. Wonder how that would play out to the end result. #lrnchat https://t.co/TmystSqKzS
9:29 PM EmmanuelleEN RT @lrnchat: Q10) What is something that you learned, surprised you, or you’ll do different after from tonight’s chat? #lrnchat
9:29 PM kregerck RT @dbuckedu: A10: Surprised by how all-consuming persistence is to daily life. Can be applied in any facet of our experience! #lrnchat
9:29 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:30 PM trainersleaders Just have to say it: #lrnchat managers’ decision to toss lightning rounds into #lrnchat was a brilliant #innovation; thanks
9:30 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:30 PM MelMilloway @annasabramowicz So much coffee I didn’t even finish my sentence haha. #lrnchat
9:30 PM jsuzcampos RT @trainersleaders Just have to say it: #lrnchat managers’ decision to toss lightning rounds was a brilliant #innovation; thanks
9:30 PM avanbarn “@deacti_vate: A9) Au contraire – if I can get you to wander off budget despite your resistance, perhaps I am performing well #lrnchat”
9:30 PM Dave_Ferguson Dave Ferguson, Victoria BC, actively seeking job aid examples good and…in need of improvement…for http://t.co/6WHDV4x9UV #lrnchat
9:30 PM Quinnovator aW) blogging at http://t.co/Nm5yXCbV5R, instigating at http://t.co/gfA9TvI2KL, consulting at http://t.co/FfFRKPWUDT #lrnchat
9:30 PM kregerck RT @urbie: #lrnchat A9 That Clint Eastwood character in Heartbreak Ridge: Improvise, overcome, adapt. How your persist matters. #unordinary
9:30 PM annasabramowicz @MelMilloway ggggitters #lrnchat
9:30 PM Tracy_Parish Attending #eACH15? Check out the great workshops being held this year. http://t.co/I3rUOj8IzX http://t.co/3yreK0niGZ #lrnchat
9:31 PM casey6777 Agreed!! #edchat #ntchat #lrnchat https://t.co/2uqGtggnw9
9:31 PM write2tg @avanbarn Not everything in life is at the same level/meaning/value. Projects are the same. What do you think? #lrnchat
9:31 PM lodtrain Sr Tech Trainer, thanks for the lightening fast and persistent lrnchatters @ #lrnchat as always learn so much from this community
9:31 PM EmmanuelleEN RT @urbie: #lrnchat A9 That Clint Eastwood character in Heartbreak Ridge: Improvise, overcome, adapt. How your persist matters. #unordinary
9:31 PM JaneBozarth RT @jsuzcampos: RT @trainersleaders Just have to say it: #lrnchat managers’ decision to toss lightning rounds was a brilliant #innovation; …
9:31 PM willconstantine Will Constantine, President of LearnHaus and Indian chef. Be on the look out for my food blog in the next week or two #Lrnchat
9:31 PM lopta BTW, what’s #lrnchat?
9:31 PM trainersleaders Wrap-up: Paul Signorelli, writer-trainer-instructional designer-consultant-#lrnchat fan; blogging at http://t.co/SHnvJ7P8j6
9:31 PM lodtrain RT @Quinnovator: aW) blogging at http://t.co/Nm5yXCbV5R, instigating at http://t.co/gfA9TvI2KL, consulting at http://t.co/FfFRKPWUDT #lrnch…
9:31 PM MelMilloway Great chat all! If we are not connected please please feel free to connect w me! See some of u at #ATD2015? http://t.co/kO7DhsVv24 #lrnchat
9:31 PM deacti_vate AW) Oh geez! Already! Hi again, Rachel, ID &amp; e-learning dev | http://t.co/m6wmjDfT3E | &amp; check out http://t.co/uf58IWcpY2 #lrnchat
9:31 PM adkpiper QW Hollis, from northern NY! I dig helping people learn–and designing systems they don’t have to spend time learning how to use. #lrnchat
9:31 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:31 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat: QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:31 PM kregerck RT @lrnchat: QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:31 PM Tracy_Parish Please look to lrnchat dot com. It’s well explained there. #lrnchat https://t.co/ajGhEEv3ZL
9:32 PM Quinnovator evangelizing L&amp;D revolution at elearning symposium in Austin nxt wk; CSTD Symposium in Vancouver 2nd week of June, hope to see you! #lrnchat
9:32 PM danno4krist A10)D best way 2learn a virtue, is 2b passd thru an experience dt evokes it lik #lrnchat hs jst don! https://t.co/u2LTk9jAU0
9:32 PM lodtrain RT @Dave_Ferguson: Dave Ferguson, Victoria BC, actively seeking job aid examples good and…in need of improvement…for http://t.co/6WHDV4…
9:32 PM lrnchat Thanks everyone for joining #lrnchat tonight. See you next week! Look for weekly transcripts at http://t.co/ijNIXq164N

Transcript – April 23: “Potpourri”

May 5, 2015 by

#lrnchat is an online chat over the social messaging service Twitter. It is held on Thursdays at 8:30-9:30pm ET/5:30-6:30pm PT.

Participants are people interested in the topic of learning from one another and who want to discuss how to help other people learn in formal, informal, social and mobile ways. We aim to steer clear of topics that are more “training department” oriented and focus on how people learn, what they learn, and what we’re learning.  If you an idea for a topic that you would like to suggest for #lrnchat, please feel free to reach out to any of the Chat Hosts.

This Week’s Chat Questions

  • We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week?
  • In a rapidly changing world how do you prepare yourself for acquiring new skills
  • How do unexpected challenges impact your ability to solve a problem?
  • Without clear instruction\guidance how can curiosity help you solve a problem?
  • How do you find communities to learn from and contribute to (other than #lrnchat)?
  • How does social media positively or negatively impact acquiring new skills?
  • How do our skills/talents cultivate our imagination to solve to solve new problems? #lrnchat

Chat Transcript

NOTE: Tweets are listed in the order they were posted and are shown in Eastern Time. To visit the actual posting for a particular tweet, click the associated user name for the posting.

8:30 PM lrnchat Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
8:30 PM The_NthDegree Hi everyone, Nigel from NZ here (for the start at least.. I’m hungry and it’s lunch time :) #lrnchat
8:31 PM lrnchat Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat
8:31 PM danno4krist Been fine! Plenty to catch up with but great all the same! #lrnchat https://t.co/dl2H1qZOXw
8:31 PM willconstantine Fantastic! #lrnchat
8:31 PM paul_learning #lrnchat its been a awesome with with more to come next week.
8:31 PM lodtrain Happy to be @ #lrnchat started amazing new job :) still in Tech Training
8:32 PM The_NthDegree I’m working on learning technologies as always, but got a new job starting soon at the local polytechnic :) #lrnchat
8:32 PM write2tg Feeling great and ready to get started with a stream of tweets! RT @lrnchat Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
8:32 PM lodtrain Technical Training passionate about all things learning – elearning, videos, vilt… #lrnchat
8:32 PM Tracy_Parish Hello #lrnchat Great to see you all again.
8:32 PM willconstantine Will from NJ, creator of LearnHaus http://t.co/ODAbM5i6rW and chef #lrnchat
8:32 PM MeganMoisand Hey Y’all! Aspiring teacher here! Excited to hear what everyone has to say about tonight’s topic! #lrnchat
8:32 PM briandusablon Brian Dusablon, Learning Ninja – outside of Houston – rugger, coach, consultant, explorer. Cheers, everyone. #lrnchat
8:32 PM 2be2learn Good evening #lrnchat. Working in San Antonio TX this week. Listening to Fiesta festival music.
8:33 PM StefaniaMonti18 Future educator here from Elon University! So excited to for my first twitter chat! #lrnchat #EDU211
8:33 PM Tracy_Parish @briandusablon Wow. The big guns are here tonight and early. #lrnchat. :)
8:33 PM danno4krist Daniel from SA! Glad to be here tonight..#lrnchat Busy with my research on Mobile technology acceptance in higher ed https://t.co/sfADuLj6rq
8:33 PM JaneBozarth RT @JD_Dillon: I’ll take Potpourri for $1000, Alex … It’s time for #lrnchat. Join the L&amp;D fun!
8:33 PM LnDDave Greetings #lrnchat! David from NY, looking forward to this week’s chat.
8:33 PM JD_Dillon JD checkin’ in from Orlando, FL. Gettin’ ready for #ATD2015 in a few weeks! #lrnchat https://t.co/aUnagjymlX
8:33 PM deacti_vate Hi #lrnchat! Barely in time :) I’m Rachel, a freelance ID and e-learning dev of http://t.co/8lYdPxU1c5
8:33 PM write2tg Taruna Goel, a life-long learner who is helping others learn. Signing in from Raincover, BC, Canada #lrnchat
8:33 PM lodtrain @StefaniaMonti18 Welcome to #lrnchat
8:33 PM LnDDave @StefaniaMonti18 Welcome to the chat! #lrnchat
8:34 PM lrnchat Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:34 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:34 PM JaneBozarth Why, hello, #lrnchat !
8:34 PM Tracy_Parish Tracy Parish, ID Healthcare, Newmarket Ontario. Listening to the @BlueJays spank Baltimore. :) #lrnchat
8:34 PM BigRoarCreative NewB here ! eLearning program manager in Pediatric Healthcare… Excited to see what his is all about! #lrnchat
8:34 PM The_NthDegree A0 the value of the right shade of green :) #lrnchat
8:34 PM annasabramowicz Anna here! What a week! Signing in from beautiful Tofino – instructional design and eLearning are my game :) #lrnchat
8:34 PM juliannapolitan Hello #lrnchat! Busy as usual…working from SF this week :)
8:35 PM Tracy_Parish KEN!!!! It’s about time you showed up. I think I invited you 5 years ago. #lrnchat https://t.co/jhlZKHV6va
8:35 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:35 PM paul_learning Paul from Brisbane, Australia, evaluating govt changes to Voc Ed Qualification Development in Australia #lrnchat http://t.co/lAT07Hs8ul
8:35 PM jadekaz Jade Kazmierski, wishing for warmer weather, loving learning, living change, heralding something #lrnchat
8:35 PM InfinityTRS Jeff from Venice, Fl. I primarily do law enforcement online training but currently working with some different clients. #lrnchat
8:35 PM danno4krist A0) Taking a MOOC on Advanced Instrructional Strategies for virtual teaching! Its been great so far…#lrnchat https://t.co/xEDiuqO6IE
8:35 PM willconstantine I learned a mean dish tonight :-) #lrnchat
8:35 PM JD_Dillon A0) Leadership is about maximizing the available talent to reach your goal, not making everyone equal #lrnchat https://t.co/vllSMkxX1E
8:35 PM The_NthDegree @willconstantine basketball assist or food? #lrnchat
8:35 PM deacti_vate A0) I’ve been taking some instructor led training courses on http://t.co/YYFLuyBgH2, so that’s been fun! #lrnchat
8:36 PM Tracy_Parish Felt first hand the passion and loyality employees truly feel when they are know they are part of “Good Work”. #lrnchat
8:36 PM 2be2learn A1. I learned that my hotel room door opened without any electronic key – yikes. Traveler safety tip #lrnchat
8:36 PM danno4krist Yes….Meaning??? #lrnchat https://t.co/b6MRB5wHOF
8:36 PM lrnchat Q1) In a rapidly changing world how do you prepare yourself for acquiring new skills? #lrnchat
8:36 PM JD_Dillon Darn! I’d go as high as $1000! :-) #lrnchat https://t.co/F4I24gZGih
8:36 PM petersonandrew #lrnchat Andrew Peterson, Instructional Technologist, Game-Based Learning TIL: qualitative data is messy.
8:36 PM briandusablon Q0) Today I learned more about turning services into products. #lrnchat
8:36 PM willconstantine @The_NthDegree food! #lrnchat
8:36 PM write2tg A0) Learned that we all want to feel like we made a contribution and we matter. #lrnchat
8:36 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q1) In a rapidly changing world how do you prepare yourself for acquiring new skills? #lrnchat
8:36 PM LnDDave @Tracy_Parish Oh you want to trash talk baseball? Let’s trash talk baseball. Also… Let’s Go @Mets #lrnchat
8:36 PM InfinityTRS A0) I learned that if you want to miss two connecting flights due to mechanical issues–fly US Airways! #lrnchat
8:36 PM kmarranzino RT @lrnchat: Q1) In a rapidly changing world how do you prepare yourself for acquiring new skills? #lrnchat
8:37 PM willconstantine #ShowYourWork #lrnchat http://t.co/XkYXCeLZaD
8:37 PM LnDDave RT @lrnchat: Q1) In a rapidly changing world how do you prepare yourself for acquiring new skills? #lrnchat
8:37 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q1) In a rapidly changing world how do you prepare yourself for acquiring new skills? #lrnchat
8:37 PM lodtrain A0) Learning new technology for Intelligent Business Continuity and happy #lrnchat
8:37 PM JaneBozarth @paul_learning does that involve fractions? #lrnchat
8:37 PM Holly_Harkness #lrnchat Holly from Atlanta checking in.
8:37 PM Jovianshadow #lrnchat Simon in Canberra, working on a video project showing footage from a education tradestand
8:37 PM juliannapolitan A0) Don’t mess with comms #lrnchat
8:37 PM The_NthDegree A1 ..same as always… with the right attitude; an open mind and wanting to learn are the key :) #lrnchat
8:37 PM Tracy_Parish @LnDDave @Mets They can’t always be good. We’ll see. We’ll see. @BlueJays #lrnchat
8:37 PM deacti_vate A1) By being constantly aware of new skills that may be beneficial to me #lrnchat
8:37 PM annasabramowicz A0) Learned that if you start the call on Skype you are the chair and everyone else loses their adding new ppl superpower #lrnchat
8:37 PM Tracy_Parish RT @lrnchat: Q1) In a rapidly changing world how do you prepare yourself for acquiring new skills? #lrnchat
8:37 PM JD_Dillon A1) Never believe I’m “done” or the best – recognize there is always something new coming #lrnchat https://t.co/rOyl4Di7PZ
8:37 PM jadekaz Q1) I channel What would #lrnchat do
8:37 PM paul_learning A1) by giving everything a go and seeing what works #lrnchat
8:37 PM annasabramowicz RT @lrnchat: Q1) In a rapidly changing world how do you prepare yourself for acquiring new skills? #lrnchat
8:38 PM InfinityTRS A1) I find myself constantly reading and learning new skills with http://t.co/cjBvDxuwAl #lrnchat
8:38 PM willconstantine Q1) I plan what I want to acquire and then break it down into my workflow and schedule time for it. #lrnchat
8:38 PM lodtrain A1) Read blogs, talk to experts and chat ie #lrnchat with experts, try new things free tech, tedtalks…
8:38 PM JD_Dillon A1) Prioritize and build in time for continued exploration – stay curious #lrnchat https://t.co/rOyl4Di7PZ
8:38 PM 2be2learn @LnDDave @Tracy_Parish no no the @SFGiants swept LA. That is all #lrnchat
8:38 PM lodtrain RT @JD_Dillon: A1) Never believe I’m “done” or the best – recognize there is always something new coming #lrnchat https://t.co/rOyl4Di7PZ
8:38 PM JeremyDBond A0) Parent &amp; lifelong learner … Starting to educate myself about games-based learning. #lrnchat
8:38 PM LnDDave Q0) Today I learned that when you step away from the day to day for a few days, the day to day doesn’t stop and wait for you. #lrnchat
8:38 PM briandusablon Q1) Stay connected. Talk to people. Build your network outside your industry. Read. Read. Read. #lrnchat
8:38 PM Tracy_Parish A1) It’s hard to keep track of all the things I want to learner/explore/try I keep tons of Evernotes and growing Pinterest boards #lrnchat
8:38 PM Jovianshadow #lrnchat A1) reading, reading, reading…keeping abreast of changes is about looking at what others are doing &amp; thinking about how to use it
8:38 PM juliannapolitan A1) Find out more about the paths others have already taken #lrnchat
8:38 PM Quinnovator a0) learned today that today’s my day to be late to chats #lrnchat
8:39 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q1) In a rapidly changing world how do you prepare yourself for acquiring new skills? #lrnchat
8:39 PM MeganMoisand A1) Always be prepared to learn something new every single day. Live life with an open mind. #lrnchat https://t.co/ooVz0kRLTX
8:39 PM petersonandrew #lrnchat Don’t go insane trying to be an expert in everything. Learn what interests you and curiosity will lead you to fun places.
8:39 PM Tracy_Parish A1) Building in dedicated time to try/learn/explore is key as well. #lrnchat
8:39 PM lodtrain RT @briandusablon: Q1) Stay connected. Talk to people. Build your network outside your industry. Read. Read. Read. #lrnchat
8:39 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q1) In a rapidly changing world how do you prepare yourself for acquiring new skills? #lrnchat
8:39 PM write2tg A1) Prepare for acquiring new skills by reading, courses, webinars, interacting with peers, learning from clients and learners #lrnchat
8:39 PM Holly_Harkness #lrnchat A1 Ooh, good topic! I try to read widely and plug into social media.
8:39 PM The_NthDegree @Quinnovator I think it’s great we take turns :) #lrnchat
8:39 PM 2be2learn A1. Ask employees to write their job description and skills needed in 2017. Then draw a roadmap to get there #lrnchat
8:39 PM briandusablon Working on teaching #xAPI, a performance support community for disease surveillance, and coaching local HS rugby team to state. #lrnchat
8:39 PM Quinnovator a1) prepare myself? Just do it! #lrnchat
8:39 PM write2tg RT @Quinnovator: a1) prepare myself? Just do it! #lrnchat
8:39 PM jadekaz A1) I let new ideas wash over me and then prototype. Ask smart people dumb questions and try to listen #lrnchat
8:39 PM lodtrain RT @Tracy_Parish: A1) Building in dedicated time to try/learn/explore is key as well. #lrnchat
8:39 PM lodtrain RT @petersonandrew: #lrnchat Don’t go insane trying to be an expert in everything. Learn what interests you and curiosity will lead you to…
8:39 PM lodtrain RT @write2tg: A1) Prepare for acquiring new skills by reading, courses, webinars, interacting with peers, learning from clients and learner…
8:39 PM paul_learning @JaneBozarth Factions more like it and it hurts my head #lrnchat
8:40 PM JD_Dillon A1) Set my own standards that exceed those I’m held accountable to on the job #lrnchat
8:40 PM agallowaylearn RT @2be2learn: A1. Ask employees to write their job description and skills needed in 2017. Then draw a roadmap to get there #lrnchat
8:40 PM lodtrain “@2be2learn: A1. Ask employees to write their job description and skills needed in 2017. Then draw a roadmap to get there #lrnchat”nice!
8:40 PM LnDDave A1) I prepare myself by developing the skills I need today, and monitoring for the skills I’ll need tomorrow. #lrnchat
8:40 PM Quinnovator Clark Quinn, L&amp;D revolution instigator, consultant/author/speaker, Walnut Creek CA #lrnchat
8:40 PM lodtrain RT @Quinnovator: a1) prepare myself? Just do it! #lrnchat
8:40 PM write2tg @Quinnovator I almost thought the same! I don’t prepare for acquiring skills. I just try and acquire. Wonder if that makes sense #lrnchat
8:40 PM JaneBozarth 1. I have a strong, smart PLN and often look to the folks there to see what’s coming/what to pay attention to #lrnchat
8:40 PM 2be2learn @Quinnovator fashionably late #lrnchat always on time
8:40 PM JaneBozarth RT @paul_learning: A1) by giving everything a go and seeing what works #lrnchat
8:40 PM kmarranzino A1) Just gonna jump into #lrnchat with no intro… oh wait, that’s how I prepare myself to acquire new skills – just jump in.
8:40 PM The_NthDegree A1b …instead of learning from experts we should try more learning from non-experts – fresh experience and ideas – eg children! #lrnchat
8:40 PM paul_learning RT @Quinnovator: a1) prepare myself? Just do it! #lrnchat I agree why waste time preparing just dive in and have fun
8:40 PM lodtrain RT @LnDDave: A1) I prepare myself by developing the skills I need today, and monitoring for the skills I’ll need tomorrow. #lrnchat
8:40 PM lodtrain RT @JaneBozarth: 1. I have a strong, smart PLN and often look to the folks there to see what’s coming/what to pay attention to #lrnchat
8:40 PM LnDDave RT @Tracy_Parish: A1) Building in dedicated time to try/learn/explore is key as well. #lrnchat
8:41 PM deacti_vate .@juliannapolitan yes! if there’s a type of job I’m interested in, I go scour people who do that job’s LinkedIn or websites #lrnchat
8:41 PM petersonandrew @Quinnovator #lrnchat “Do or Do Not, there is no try” – Yoda
8:41 PM JD_Dillon RT @JaneBozarth: 1. I have a strong, smart PLN and often look to the folks there to see what’s coming/what to pay attention to #lrnchat
8:41 PM lodtrain @JaneBozarth and read jane’s books and blogs #lrnchat
8:41 PM agallowaylearn RT @willconstantine: Q1) I plan what I want to acquire and then break it down into my workflow and schedule time for it. #lrnchat
8:41 PM Tracy_Parish It’s that how we are all learning Minecraft if we’re over 10 yrs old. #lrnchat https://t.co/owSRCcy0aB
8:41 PM annasabramowicz RT @The_NthDegree: A1 ..same as always… with the right attitude; an open mind and wanting to learn are the key :) #lrnchat
8:41 PM write2tg RT @petersonandrew @Quinnovator #lrnchat “Do or Do Not, there is no try” – Yoda
8:41 PM lodtrain RT @deacti_vate: .@juliannapolitan yes! if there’s a type of job I’m interested in, I go scour people who do that job’s LinkedIn or website…
8:41 PM briandusablon RT @JaneBozarth: 1. I have a strong, smart PLN and often look to the folks there to see what’s coming/what to pay attention to #lrnchat
8:41 PM lodtrain RT @petersonandrew: @Quinnovator #lrnchat “Do or Do Not, there is no try” – Yoda
8:41 PM JaneBozarth 1. Follow the things that interest me. There’ll be something I’ll end up passionate about #lrnchat
8:41 PM kmarranzino A1) Participate in #lrnchat
8:41 PM Quinnovator a1) by having questions I need answered, by cultivating channels, by committing to things in Zone of Proximal Development #lrnchat
8:41 PM JaneBozarth RT @lodtrain: @JaneBozarth and read jane’s books and blogs #lrnchat
8:42 PM JD_Dillon A1) Never fear failure … #lrnchat
8:42 PM briandusablon Q1) Be willing to share your successes and failures as you try new things. #ShowYourWork #lrnchat
8:42 PM write2tg A1) For acquiring new skills, I try to suspend my disbelief or too much belief in tools, technology, methods, models #lrnchat
8:42 PM jadekaz a1) connect, follow, subscribe to many in many fields and walks of life. Then I read. And try to find themes. #lrnchat
8:42 PM JaneBozarth @paul_learning i bet! #Lrnchat
8:42 PM Tracy_Parish RT @briandusablon: Q1) Be willing to share your successes and failures as you try new things. #ShowYourWork #lrnchat
8:42 PM LnDDave RT @JaneBozarth: 1. I have a strong, smart PLN and often look to the folks there to see what’s coming/what to pay attention to #lrnchat
8:42 PM The_NthDegree A1c …never closing the door on learning. (never being an expert, never worrying about knowledge and not being afraid to be wrong #lrnchat
8:42 PM annasabramowicz A1) FOCUS #lrnchat
8:43 PM JaneBozarth @lodtrain remind me to mail your check… #lrnchat
8:43 PM The_NthDegree RT @JD_Dillon: A1) Never fear failure … #lrnchat &lt;&lt; Yes :)
8:43 PM paul_learning RT @lodtrain: @JaneBozarth and read jane’s books and blogs #lrnchat Doesn’t everyone read all of Jane’s stuff already. :)
8:43 PM Quinnovator a1) by sharing my interim thoughts (shoutout to @JaneBozarth and #showyourwork) #lrnchat
8:43 PM lodtrain RT @briandusablon: Q1) Be willing to share your successes and failures as you try new things. #ShowYourWork #lrnchat
8:43 PM Dan_Jacques_LD A1 Being ready for change has to part of who you are, life is about growing and learning a little each day #lrnchat
8:43 PM LnDDave A1) I always have a eye on what’s just outside my comfort zone. #lrnchat
8:43 PM JD_Dillon A1) Get outside your bubble or comfort zone (workplace, peer group, industry, etc.) #lrnchat
8:43 PM JaneBozarth RT @The_NthDegree: A1c …never closing the door on learning. (never being an expert, never worrying about knowledge and not being afraid …
8:43 PM petersonandrew @Tracy_Parish #lrnchat I have invested 12 years into creating my own household expert in Minecraft. He sometimes goes outside and plays too
8:43 PM JD_Dillon RT @Quinnovator: a1) by sharing my interim thoughts (shoutout to @JaneBozarth and #showyourwork) #lrnchat
8:43 PM BigRoarCreative A1) never settling. Being willing to try some thing new (technique or technology) every week, willing to fail forward. #lrnchat
8:43 PM Quinnovator RT @JaneBozarth: 1. Follow the things that interest me. There’ll be something I’ll end up passionate about #lrnchat
8:43 PM annasabramowicz Booya! @Quinnovator: a1) by sharing my interim thoughts (shoutout to @JaneBozarth and #showyourwork) #lrnchat
8:43 PM JaneBozarth RT @jadekaz: a1) connect, follow, subscribe to many in many fields and walks of life. Then I read. And try to find themes. #lrnchat
8:43 PM JeremyDBond A1) If overwhelmed by new things, learn them thru an existing context (Twitter? Coursework?) with which you’re already comfortable. #lrnchat
8:43 PM lodtrain RT @Dan_Jacques_LD: A1 Being ready for change has to part of who you are, life is about growing and learning a little each day #lrnchat
8:44 PM danno4krist Yes sharing is a major one for me, I’m learning to share #lrnchat https://t.co/nJYgSiXToE
8:44 PM write2tg A1) by staying away from the ‘Expert’ trap and not be concerned about titles and designations #lrnchat
8:44 PM JaneBozarth RT @kmarranzino: A1) Participate in #lrnchat
8:44 PM lodtrain RT @JD_Dillon: A1) Get outside your bubble or comfort zone (workplace, peer group, industry, etc.) #lrnchat
8:44 PM Quinnovator a1) find those itches that need scratching, or those questions that need answering #lrnchat
8:44 PM lodtrain RT @BigRoarCreative: A1) never settling. Being willing to try some thing new (technique or technology) every week, willing to fail forward.…
8:44 PM write2tg RT @JD_Dillon: A1) Get outside your bubble or comfort zone (workplace, peer group, industry, etc.) #lrnchat
8:44 PM SimonBlairTrain A1: By listening. Someone else willl almost always have learned it before me. #lrnchat
8:44 PM lrnchat Q2) How do unexpected challenges impact your ability to solve a problem? #lrnchat
8:44 PM briandusablon RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do unexpected challenges impact your ability to solve a problem? #lrnchat
8:44 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q2) How do unexpected challenges impact your ability to solve a problem? #lrnchat
8:44 PM JaneBozarth @paul_learning @lodtrain aw shucks thanks #lrnchat
8:44 PM annasabramowicz RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do unexpected challenges impact your ability to solve a problem? #lrnchat
8:44 PM petersonandrew @JD_Dillon I get worse at failure every day #lrnchat
8:44 PM btopro RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do unexpected challenges impact your ability to solve a problem? #lrnchat
8:45 PM danno4krist RT @JaneBozarth: 1. Follow the things that interest me. There’ll be something I’ll end up passionate about #lrnchat
8:45 PM write2tg A2) Unexpected challenges make me what I am. That’s how I learn. So, it’s all good :) #lrnchat
8:45 PM briandusablon Q2) Unexpected or expected challenges just allow you to be more creative. #lrnchat
8:45 PM Tracy_Parish They hijack my amygdala and I’m done for….challenge over. ;) #lrnchat
8:45 PM danno4krist RT @JeremyDBond: A1) If overwhelmed by new things, learn them thru an existing context (Twitter? Coursework?) with which you’re already com…
8:45 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do unexpected challenges impact your ability to solve a problem? #lrnchat
8:45 PM btopro #lrnchat Q2) they don’t, they make you a better problem solver… unless it produces more email, more ppl TO HAVE TO TALK TO. stupid humans :)
8:45 PM deacti_vate A2) I try to treat unexpected challenges as a learning experience, but sometimes I just need to walk away from my desk for a min #lrnchat
8:45 PM jadekaz A1) when I feel too smart I watch Jeopardy #lrnchat
8:45 PM JaneBozarth @willconstantine tell? #lrnchat
8:45 PM LnDDave RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do unexpected challenges impact your ability to solve a problem? #lrnchat
8:45 PM SimonBlairTrain @petersonandrew @JD_Dillon What happens if you fail at failure? #lrnchat
8:45 PM Holly_Harkness .@Quinnovator Zone of Proximal Development? Explain pls. #lrnchat
8:45 PM write2tg RT @deacti_vate: A2) I try to treat unexpected challenges as a learning experience, but sometimes I just need to walk away from my desk for…
8:45 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do unexpected challenges impact your ability to solve a problem? #lrnchat
8:45 PM Tracy_Parish Wait….what @briandusablon said.
#lrnchat https://t.co/z13mRjSDnm
8:45 PM The_NthDegree A2 with the right attitude they don’t – they’re just opportunities to learn and grow &lt; a bit too corny even for me #lrnchat
8:45 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do unexpected challenges impact your ability to solve a problem? #lrnchat
8:45 PM petersonandrew RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do unexpected challenges impact your ability to solve a problem? #lrnchat
8:45 PM kmarranzino “@Quinnovator: a1) by committing to things in Zone of Proximal Development #lrnchat”

Did anyone else have to look up ZPD? :-|

8:45 PM kelly_smith01 RT @write2tg: RT @JD_Dillon: A1) Get outside your bubble or comfort zone (workplace, peer group, industry, etc.) #lrnchat
8:46 PM SimonBlairTrain @deacti_vate Amen! #lrnchat
8:46 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do unexpected challenges impact your ability to solve a problem? #lrnchat
8:46 PM Quinnovator a2) um, unexpected challenges *are* a problem to be solved. Is this a trick question? #lrnchat
8:46 PM lodtrain A2) Focus is needed when unexpected things happen, think about role/what’s needed and not just tasks #lrnchat
8:46 PM briandusablon Q2) Even if challenges hinder your progress or problem solving, you can learn something from that experience. #lrnchat
8:46 PM kmarranzino RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do unexpected challenges impact your ability to solve a problem? #lrnchat
8:46 PM The_NthDegree A2 I like unexpected changes – it proves my #evolve theory of always being able to change and avoid the knowledge trap #lrnchat
8:46 PM thevarnish #lrnchat A1 Cry, panic, pout, breathe, man-up, dive-in, learn, fail, laugh at self, repeat until laughing with delight at success. Repeat.
8:46 PM JaneBozarth RT @Quinnovator: a2) um, unexpected challenges *are* a problem to be solved. Is this a trick question? #lrnchat
8:46 PM lodtrain “@jadekaz: A1) when I feel too smart I watch Jeopardy #lrnchat” :)
8:46 PM paul_learning A2) I love undocumented features :) they make life interesting and often help to solve problems you don’t know exist yet. #lrnchat
8:46 PM Quinnovator #winning #lrnchat ;) https://t.co/75BEBFerIL
8:46 PM write2tg Yup! That brings me right down to planet Earth! RT @jadekaz A1) when I feel too smart I watch Jeopardy #lrnchat
8:47 PM JD_Dillon A2) I credit my years in high-volume ops with my ability to quickly break down and solve problems today #lrnchat https://t.co/XTIQHtEqCX
8:47 PM lodtrain RT @The_NthDegree: A2 I like unexpected changes – it proves my #evolve theory of always being able to change and avoid the knowledge trap #…
8:47 PM JaneBozarth RT @annasabramowicz: Booya! @Quinnovator: a1) by sharing my interim thoughts (shoutout to @JaneBozarth and #showyourwork) #lrnchat
8:47 PM briandusablon Q2) Or, just be omniscient. Then nothing is unexpected. #boring #lrnchat
8:47 PM lodtrain RT @thevarnish: #lrnchat A1 Cry, panic, pout, breathe, man-up, dive-in, learn, fail, laugh at self, repeat until laughing with delight at s…
8:47 PM willconstantine Q2) well it definitely takes minute to rethink what you’re doing #lrnchat
8:47 PM Tracy_Parish Unexpected challenges almost always result in unexpected and often wonderful results. #lrnchat
8:47 PM annasabramowicz A2) A problem/challenge is a learning opportunity – although in the moment I sometimes need to reflect to come to this conclusion #lrnchat
8:47 PM paul_learning @JaneBozarth @lodtrain I couldn’t resist #lrnchat
8:47 PM InfinityTRS A2) First, expect the unexpected. Then let that challenge feed your creativity or critical thinking skills. #lrnchat
8:47 PM Quinnovator @Holly_Harkness Vygotsky’s concept of the place between where you’re capable and where you’re hopeless: where learning happens #lrnchat
8:47 PM JD_Dillon A2) Getting creative inside “the box” often fosters unexpected innovation #lrnchat https://t.co/XTIQHtEqCX
8:47 PM 2be2learn Unexpected challenge: a)keep focused to solve problem or b) away time/focus to loudest complaining voice? #lrnchat
8:47 PM petersonandrew @SimonBlairTrain @JD_Dillon #lrnchat if I don’t not ever sometimes fail at failure I’ll succeed 90% of half the time.
8:47 PM JaneBozarth @Quinnovator how are you doing that, mostly? Blogging? #lrnchat
8:48 PM briandusablon RT @Tracy_Parish: Unexpected challenges almost always result in unexpected and often wonderful results. #lrnchat
8:48 PM kmarranzino A2) Can distract, break focus, take you on a tangent. But that also could be where most of the learning happens… #lrnchat
8:48 PM The_NthDegree unexpected challenges = life = sh!t happens? &gt; time to use your brain for what it’s meant for (not storing useless ‘facts’) #lrnchat
8:48 PM kloomis10 #lrnchat need to be adaptable. We need to look at alternatives. Can’t always use the same templates/ideas
8:48 PM SimonBlairTrain If you expect the unexpected, does that make the expected unexpected? :-) #lrnchat https://t.co/ol7M3wZpVt
8:48 PM Tracy_Parish Unexpected challenges is why many women can use a nail file like a swiss army knife #lrnchat
8:48 PM Quinnovator a2) unexpected challenges require conscious attention; reflection is a wonderful tool #lrnchat
8:48 PM MeganMoisand A2) they teach you quick thinking skills. Expect the unexpected. #lrnchat #EDU211 https://t.co/cYh25wrxo1
8:48 PM paul_learning A1) it is not so much the challenge, but the swearing and kicking things that impacts my problem solving ability. :) #lrnchat
8:48 PM jadekaz A2) ahhh. Unexpected challenges. That’s the stuff of life. I let them humble me first and foremost. Then I look around. #lrnchat
8:48 PM The_NthDegree @SimonBlairTrain only if the unexpected you expected was the same as the expected unexpected #lrnchat
8:48 PM Tracy_Parish RT @paul_learning: A1) it is not so much the challenge, but the swearing and kicking things that impacts my problem solving ability. :) #…
8:48 PM petersonandrew @lodtrain @jadekaz #lrnchat that only works if it’s not celebrity jeopardy week.
8:48 PM LnDDave A2) unexpected challenges don’t affect your ability to solve problem “a”. They change problem “a” to problem “b”. #lrnchat
8:48 PM write2tg A2) Unexpected challenges can be a speed bump or a learning catalyst. Depends on how I am feeling that day! Honest #lrnchat
8:49 PM write2tg RT @LnDDave A2) unexpected challenges don’t affect your ability to solve problem “a”. They change problem “a” to problem “b”. #lrnchat
8:49 PM 2be2learn @lodtrain @jadekaz Jeopardy…A: What is #lrnchat ?
8:49 PM Quinnovator blogging mostly, yes #lrnchat https://t.co/n8g4ViDQYU
8:49 PM thevarnish #lrnchat A2 Unexpected changes are welcome. It means I breaking new ground. Expected changes are boring and unsettling.
8:49 PM JD_Dillon A2) There’s nothing like a facility fire to challenge your problem-solving and decision-making skills! #lrnchat
8:49 PM adkpiper A2 Unexpected challenges show you that you need a more robust solution that you might have thought, and may need extra help. #lrnchat
8:49 PM paul_learning @The_NthDegree but if it wasn’t for useless facts my brain would be a vast empty desert. #lrnchat
8:49 PM deacti_vate A2) I also try to keep any stakeholders up to date. “Actually, this is going to take me a little longer because…” #lrnchat
8:49 PM write2tg RT @deacti_vate: A2) I also try to keep any stakeholders up to date. “Actually, this is going to take me a little longer because…” #lrnch…
8:49 PM JeremyDBond RT @LnDDave: A2) unexpected challenges don’t affect your ability to solve problem “a”. They change problem “a” to problem “b”. #lrnchat
8:50 PM Quinnovator a2) expect the unexpected #lrnchat #hazycosmicquote
8:50 PM Dan_Jacques_LD A2 The path to a solution is rarely a straight one, how you handle the bumps and curves depends on how you travel that path #lrnchat
8:50 PM Tracy_Parish Isn’t everything unexpected? If not I’m in a chat filled with psychics. #lrnchat
8:50 PM The_NthDegree @paul_learning @The_NthDegree can you still learn in a desert? (okay, you need water and shade I’ll grant you :) #lrnchat
8:50 PM deacti_vate .@LnDDave well, if I throw my controller at the tv and break both the controller and the tv, then they’re both still my problem #lrnchat ;)
8:50 PM Quinnovator RT @LnDDave: A2) unexpected challenges don’t affect your ability to solve problem “a”. They change problem “a” to problem “b”. #lrnchat
8:50 PM annasabramowicz @jadekaz I love that you mentioned “humble” – it’s essential to learning and continually growing #lrnchat
8:50 PM fugu13 A0 belated) I learned over the weekend what it feels like to have a walrus whistle at you #lrnchat
8:50 PM write2tg RT @annasabramowicz @jadekaz I love that you mentioned “humble” – it’s essential to learning and continually growing #lrnchat
8:50 PM 2be2learn @kmarranzino good- when the tangent is the actual path to a creative solution #lrnchat
8:50 PM brunowinck Hi #lrnChat kind of joining late but will catchup :)
8:50 PM SimonBlairTrain @Tracy_Parish None of whom have won the lottery. Now THAT’S unexpected! :-) #lrnchat
8:50 PM The_NthDegree @Tracy_Parish I replied to this before you typed it… ‘no’ :) #lrnchat
8:51 PM duchampian A0) joining late #lrnchat it’s tennis season, again
8:51 PM JD_Dillon A2) Unexpected is expected #lrnchat
8:51 PM lrnchat Q3) Without clear instruction\guidance how can curiosity help you solve a problem? #lrnchat
8:51 PM JaneBozarth q2 Unexpected challenge? Ask: What would the positive deviant do? #lrnchat
8:51 PM lodtrain RT @write2tg: RT @annasabramowicz @jadekaz I love that you mentioned “humble” – it’s essential to learning and continually growing #lrnchat
8:51 PM petersonandrew #lrnchat if the challenge is related, it might be worth exploring what caused it to rise at the time it did.
8:51 PM JaneBozarth RT @Tracy_Parish: Isn’t everything unexpected? If not I’m in a chat filled with psychics. #lrnchat
8:51 PM deacti_vate .@LnDDave and I probably have a problem too if I do that, all individual in their own way #lrnchat
8:51 PM breecouch_ No matter what, be resilient. #lrnchat https://t.co/u7w0G9kPGt
8:51 PM LnDDave @deacti_vate see, I’d argue that’s an example of a TV problem that went away, and an anger management problem that emerged. #lrnchat. ;-)
8:51 PM JaneBozarth @Tracy_Parish good point. #lrnchat
8:51 PM brunowinck Bruno, Software vendor type, Chating from sunny mountains of central France (Night now) #lrnchat
8:52 PM PatriceKiraly RT @Quinnovator: a2) um, unexpected challenges *are* a problem to be solved. Is this a trick question? #lrnchat
8:52 PM annasabramowicz RT @lrnchat: Q3) Without clear instruction\guidance how can curiosity help you solve a problem? #lrnchat
8:52 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q3) Without clear instruction\guidance how can curiosity help you solve a problem? #lrnchat
8:52 PM InfinityTRS @SimonBlairTrain Touche! #lrnchat
8:52 PM briandusablon Q3) I use my natural curiosity to preemptively solve problems I don’t know exist yet. R&amp;D helps you prepare… #lrnchat
8:52 PM kmarranzino RT @lrnchat: Q3) Without clear instruction\guidance how can curiosity help you solve a problem? #lrnchat
8:52 PM Tracy_Parish A3) Curiosity leads to trial and failutre, trial and learning, and trial and success. Sometimes in that order. #lrnchat
8:52 PM LnDDave RT @lrnchat: Q3) Without clear instruction\guidance how can curiosity help you solve a problem? #lrnchat
8:52 PM fugu13 A1 belated) constant exploration, diverse Twitter follows, deliberate seeking #lrnchat
8:52 PM petersonandrew #lrnchat it could be a piece to the puzzle, a bigger puzzle, or a random piece of chewed cardboard from the dog, you need to figure it out.
8:52 PM SimonBlairTrain A3: Without clear instruction/guidance, curiosity and creativity are critical to solving the problem. #lrnchat
8:52 PM breecouch_ How big is the challenge? Sometimes I reevaluate the desired solution. Other times,make small adjustments. #lrnchat https://t.co/u7w0G9kPGt
8:52 PM The_NthDegree A3 more to the point with instruction and guidance CAN you still solve the problem? viva free thinking I say :) #lrnchat
8:52 PM Tracy_Parish RT @SimonBlairTrain: A3: Without clear instruction/guidance, curiosity and creativity are critical to solving the problem. #lrnchat
8:52 PM juliannapolitan A2) With open arms! Unexpected challenges are better surfaced sooner than later #lrnchat
8:52 PM Quinnovator a3) well, research says that if not in our domain of expertise, we retreat to trial and error problem solving #lrnchat
8:53 PM briandusablon Q3) By preparing, researching, playing, I can say, “oh, I have a solution for that…” or “oh, I know someone who can help you.” #lrnchat
8:53 PM 2be2learn A3 curiosity = when you don’t perceive a problem as being a problem…but a new way to learn #lrnchat
8:53 PM kloomis10 Q3) No clear instruction means we need to focus on solving the problem rather than relying on formulaic solutions. Innovation. #lrnchat
8:53 PM JD_Dillon A3) Curiosity means your open to new approaches, ideas, and collaboration #lrnchat https://t.co/OVo7sCKsY0
8:53 PM adkpiper A3 Curiosity helps you step outside the first framework you see and consider what other approaches might work/discover connections. #lrnchat
8:53 PM kmarranzino A3) I think curiosity causes you to ask all the right questions, even the “dumb” ones you might otherwise suppress. #lrnchat
8:53 PM brunowinck A0) Learn to write a decent blog post, in English, on L&amp;D (learning on progress) #Lrnchat
8:53 PM lodtrain a3) Approach like a child, examine, try things, fail and try again, curiosity helps you learn in an unbiased way #lrnchat
8:53 PM SimonBlairTrain Did anybody else read that in a Yoda voice? #lrnchat https://t.co/W0N1rd2FOM
8:53 PM paul_learning A3) It allows you to play, which lets you solve problems in unique and interesting ways. #lrnchat
8:53 PM JD_Dillon RT @Quinnovator: a3) well, research says that if not in our domain of expertise, we retreat to trial and error problem solving #lrnchat
8:53 PM JaneBozarth q3 Show what problem you solved, even if you had to find the problem yourself. #lrnchat
8:53 PM write2tg RT @lodtrain a3) Approach like a child, examine, try things, fail and try again, curiosity helps you learn in an unbiased way #lrnchat
8:53 PM duchampian A3) curiosity often lacks instruction, but does curiosity ever lack motivation? #lrnchat
8:53 PM JD_Dillon RT @2be2learn: A3 curiosity = when you don’t perceive a problem as being a problem…but a new way to learn #lrnchat
8:53 PM Quinnovator a3) skills/mindsets that help: be willing to fail, be systematic, record the outcomes #lrnchat
8:53 PM deacti_vate A3) “Based on what I learned with this puzzle thing, this looks like it would fit here sooooo let’s try it” #lrnchat http://t.co/QRBkRjrbfy
8:54 PM Holly_Harkness A3 #lrnchat like Alice in Wonderland, I follow the rabbit down the rabbit hole and adventures happen!
8:54 PM annasabramowicz A3) Trial and error will work, but we have the interwebs – communities, meetups, checking out others on LinkedIn :D #lrnchat
8:54 PM The_NthDegree RT @duchampian: A3) curiosity often lacks instruction, but does curiosity ever lack motivation? #lrnchat &lt; no it doesn’t – great Tweet!
8:54 PM fugu13 A2) can definitely derail, as a lot on plate. But depends on priority of project #lrnchat
8:54 PM petersonandrew #lrnchat A3) since when does curiosity need guidance?
8:54 PM kmarranzino RT @lodtrain: a3) Approach like a child, examine, try things, fail and try again, curiosity helps you learn in an unbiased way #lrnchat
8:54 PM Quinnovator apt; curiosity *is* motivation! #lrnchat https://t.co/YNl3Bb4H7H
8:54 PM duchampian @SimonBlairTrain @Tracy_Parish that, I did. #lrnchat
8:54 PM write2tg A3) Curiosity is a tool for evolution and learning. If we are not curious, no instruction or guidance can help us. #lrnchat
8:54 PM JeremyDBond Because it makes you want to do it! #lrnchat https://t.co/FbjrRY64F0
8:55 PM JD_Dillon A3) Curiosity leads to asking questions and digging for answers #lrnchat
8:55 PM kelly_smith01 RT @Holly_Harkness: A3 #lrnchat like Alice in Wonderland, I follow the rabbit down the rabbit hole and adventures happen!
8:55 PM briandusablon @Tracy_Parish @JaneBozarth I expected you to say that. #lrnchat
8:55 PM annasabramowicz Well said! @write2tg Curiosity is a tool for evolution and learning. If we are not curious, no instruction or guidance can help us. #lrnchat
8:55 PM brunowinck A1) Reading and trying which skill could help and how to learn it (could be a MOOC, a course or learning from others directly) #LrnChat
8:55 PM jadekaz A3) I have yet to find clear guidance. It’s all mud. Learning to swim in mud is where fun is at #lrnchat
8:55 PM briandusablon RT @JaneBozarth: q3 Show what problem you solved, even if you had to find the problem yourself. #lrnchat
8:55 PM Quinnovator @JaneBozarth but also speaking, demofesting, #lrnchat
8:55 PM willconstantine Masala curry made of a paste of cilantro, chilis, garlic, ginger, #lrnchat
8:55 PM The_NthDegree Curiosity killed the cat… I don’t think it’s relevant but I’m not a huge cat fan so I don’t see it as a negative… #justsayin’ #lrnchat
8:55 PM LizZakos Breaking habits and patterns, creates new connections in the brain #lrnchat https://t.co/bx5yEdJXj6
8:55 PM LnDDave A3) creativity is often the difference between a problem simply going away, and a problem going away leaving learning behind. #lrnchat
8:55 PM JMoiseMTL @JaneBozarth @hjarche U know how many times I’ve said of late I’m now committed to working out loud and here’s how? Thx! #lrnchat #PKM2015
8:55 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q3) Without clear instruction\guidance how can curiosity help you solve a problem? #lrnchat
8:55 PM thevarnish #lrnchat A3 If you aren’t curious about the lack of direction, then you might need your pulse checked. It is an essential trait.
8:55 PM adkpiper A3 Guidance is sometimes a disease vector for bad ideas. Not an asset if it passes along unhelpful preconceptions. #lrnchat
8:56 PM Tracy_Parish RT @LizZakos: Breaking habits and patterns, creates new connections in the brain #lrnchat https://t.co/bx5yEdJXj6
8:56 PM willconstantine RT @JD_Dillon: A3) Curiosity leads to asking questions and digging for answers #lrnchat
8:56 PM BigRoarCreative A3) curiosity = motivation to seek answers or self teach. #lrnchat
8:56 PM annasabramowicz @The_NthDegree Oh that is cold! Just cold! #lrnchat ;)
8:56 PM Tracy_Parish RT @lrnchat: Q3) Without clear instruction\guidance how can curiosity help you solve a problem? #lrnchat
8:56 PM juliannapolitan A3) By enabling creativity and removing unnecessary barriers #lrnchat
8:56 PM write2tg +1 RT @adkpiper A3 Guidance is sometimes a disease vector for bad ideas. Not an asset if it passes along unhelpful preconceptions. #lrnchat
8:56 PM fugu13 A3) there are huge resources out there, plus exploration (careful or otherwise). Poke things and see what happens! #lrnchat
8:56 PM brunowinck Yep #lrnChat https://t.co/OkL3XzCCEF
8:56 PM SimonBlairTrain @The_NthDegree And the second mouse gets the cheese. Sometimes it doesn’t pay to be an early adopter. #lrnchat
8:56 PM briandusablon Q3) Curiosity never needs permission or guidance. #lrnchat
8:56 PM Dan_Jacques_LD A3 curiosity taps into the explorer spirit that you may not normally tap into, embrace your inner magellan #lrnchat
8:56 PM Quinnovator Can that be a ’thing’, “be the problem”? ;) #lrnchat https://t.co/wHYurTpIad
8:56 PM willconstantine Q3) curiosity leads to deeper thinking #lrnchat
8:56 PM annasabramowicz @willconstantine Sounds like OmNOMNOM to me #lrnchat
8:56 PM LnDDave RT @briandusablon: Q3) I use my natural curiosity to preemptively solve problems I don’t know exist yet. R&amp;D helps you prepare… #lrnchat
8:56 PM brunowinck and if there is too much to learn? #lrnchat https://t.co/DkCJzGtRN1
8:56 PM JaneBozarth @JMoiseMTL @hjarche oh that’s excellent! Send something for me to add to the Pinterest examples? #lrnchat
8:57 PM urbie uh oh.. i got the #lrnchat time zone wrong.. argh :(
8:57 PM petersonandrew #lrnchat guidance and instruction are only important if the destination is known and prescribed.
8:57 PM breecouch_ Curiosity=safe zone. Failure doesn’t exist bc you’re not committed. It gives permission to try new things. #lrnchat https://t.co/vR7xL4bVyf
8:57 PM willconstantine Veggies were carrots, parsnips, potato and Indian eggplant #lrnchat
8:57 PM SimonBlairTrain @Quinnovator My school teachers definitely thought I was good at “being” the problem. :-) #lrnchat
8:57 PM LnDDave A3) curiosity naturally explores how things work, making it easier to notice where things may not be working. #lrnchat
8:57 PM Vitzkrieg RT @briandusablon: Q3) Curiosity never needs permission or guidance. #lrnchat
8:58 PM annasabramowicz @urbie Oh I’m sure you still have time to drop some knowledge/insight bombs! as per usual :) #lrnchat
8:58 PM write2tg RT @Vitzkrieg RT @briandusablon: Q3) Curiosity never needs permission or guidance. #lrnchat
8:58 PM InfinityTRS A3) Sometimes not being told what the problem is, allows a fresh unbiased view to give good solutions. #lrnchat
8:58 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q1) In a rapidly changing world how do you prepare yourself for acquiring new skills? #lrnchat
8:58 PM briandusablon Q3) Wait, was that supposed to be a capital C (Curiosity)? Because I’m pretty sure it does have guidance chips. #lrnchat
8:58 PM JD_Dillon Anyone read Brian Grazer’s new book on curiosity? http://t.co/jSes3AzhHA #lrnchat
8:58 PM petersonandrew #lrnchat guides on the side should not always know the destination where curiosity is leading them
8:58 PM SimonBlairTrain @write2tg @Vitzkrieg @briandusablon True, but sometimes it needs forgiveness. #lrnchat
8:58 PM lodtrain RT @InfinityTRS: A3) Sometimes not being told what the problem is, allows a fresh unbiased view to give good solutions. #lrnchat
8:58 PM Quinnovator a3) seems like a good meta-learning thing would be to “be the problem you solve” #lrnchat #soundslikeaselfhelpbook
8:59 PM brunowinck A2) Unexpected challenges in my job are huge time suckers so impact learning by reducing time available #LrnChat
8:59 PM write2tg A3) Curiosity is what leads to discovering the unexpected! And then that’s the problem you solve. #lrnchat
8:59 PM urbie #lrnchat A1 Acquire new skills.. elearning guild is amazing for PD. The events it hosts, #devlearn, #mlearncon are right in my swim lane
8:59 PM The_NthDegree It can bring you back down to earth? https://t.co/xf2lJMonce just carying on my curiosity cat theme ;) #lrnchat
8:59 PM Quinnovator we have ways of guiding your curiosity! bwahaha! #lrnchat https://t.co/7DzgQmTkVH
8:59 PM briandusablon @SimonBlairTrain @write2tg @Vitzkrieg I will never ask for forgiveness for being curious. #lrnchat
8:59 PM adkpiper A3 I feel like guidance is a faster approach; curiosity often requires more time to reach the same goal—but may also unlock others. #lrnchat
8:59 PM petersonandrew @briandusablon @MarsCuriosity does sometimes lead us to wonderful places #lrnchat
9:00 PM JaneBozarth RT @urbie: #lrnchat A1 Acquire new skills.. elearning guild is amazing for PD. The events it hosts, #devlearn, #mlearncon are right in my s…
9:00 PM annasabramowicz @JD_Dillon Have you? Are you recommending? #lrnchat
9:00 PM SimonBlairTrain Sounds like Mahatma Ghandi on L&amp;D. #lrnchat https://t.co/S82gMq3gyl
9:00 PM Quinnovator that #lrnchat https://t.co/DzqXpZye2W
9:00 PM urbie #lrnchat A1 #EdCamp too. I love meeting with way motivated educators. then #cue and @TCEA. In August taking it up a notch: @CUERockStar
9:00 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do unexpected challenges impact your ability to solve a problem? #lrnchat
9:00 PM kmarranzino .@Quinnovator Like “be the ball” in sports… #lrnchat
9:00 PM brunowinck @annasabramowicz but if there unexpected who do you make time to learn? #lrnchat
9:00 PM duchampian A3) Curiosity is the hallmark of a creative brain. But curious exploration is often creative problem solving in disguise, no? #lrnchat
9:00 PM 2be2learn @Quinnovator — mind control will not work on #lrnchat crew
9:00 PM briandusablon Q3) If @oxala75 we here, he’d post this: http://t.co/zDNdGMG28b via @giphy #curiosity #lrnchat
9:01 PM urbie #lrnchat A2 You know what? The whole #tlap thing.. it encourages me to be real. This week just went out and ideated. Most ideas went nowhere
9:01 PM jadekaz A3) illusion of clear guidance is biggest barrier to learning #lrnchat
9:01 PM SimonBlairTrain @jadekaz So true! #lrnchat
9:01 PM Quinnovator ever have one of those streaks where suddenly you can’t do anything but respond in silly ways? #apologies #lrnchat #iwilltryharder
9:01 PM brunowinck A2) often when facing unexpected challenge I swicth to something else,let some time like a night and replan it again #lrnchat
9:01 PM annasabramowicz @adkpiper Nice observation – do you think we always benefit from the shortcut? #lrnchat Also, HI!!!
9:01 PM urbie #lrnchat A2 But some drew laughs. In that moment people gave the ideas a chance.. laughter enables that leap of faith.
9:02 PM brunowinck exactly #lrnchat https://t.co/k4Dn9rZR9o
9:02 PM The_NthDegree @Quinnovator you call it a streak.. I call it life – can’t help it :) #lrnchat
9:02 PM JaneBozarth @adkpiper Hi Hollis. How’s things? #lrnchat
9:02 PM SimonBlairTrain Yes, It tends to happen to me on days that end in “y”. #lrnchat https://t.co/vM2OSHjMSC
9:02 PM Quinnovator @2be2learn this is not the chat you’re thinking of #lrnchat
9:02 PM urbie #lrnchat A2 So it ended well. Three days later we have a plan and some solid strategies do work with.
9:02 PM adkpiper .@annasabramowicz Ain’t no “always” in learning. ;-) I think it really depends on the goal. Also, hi back! #lrnchat
9:02 PM SimonBlairTrain @Quinnovator @2be2learn This is not the chat I’m thinking of. #lrnchat
9:03 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q3) Without clear instruction\guidance how can curiosity help you solve a problem? #lrnchat
9:03 PM petersonandrew #lrnchat with enough caffeine and curiosity (and maybe duct tape) there is no problem that can’t be challenged.
9:03 PM adkpiper @JaneBozarth It has been one heck of a rough spring, let me tell you. Thus my persistent (and regretful) absence from #lrnchat.
9:03 PM JaneBozarth Just now switched from Tweetchat to Twubs and laughed out loud over “register your hashtag!”. I’ll take PT Barnum for $200, Alex.#lrnchat
9:03 PM SimonBlairTrain @petersonandrew Pretext lies and duct tape! Solve any problem. #lrnchat
9:03 PM lrnchat Q4) How do you find communities to learn from and contribute to (other than #lrnchat)? #lrnchat
9:03 PM urbie #lrnchat A3 Funny thing that.. The clear instruction/guidance got us in the mess we’re in: zip collaboration, faint critical thinking..
9:04 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q4) How do you find communities to learn from and contribute to (other than #lrnchat)? #lrnchat
9:04 PM annasabramowicz @brunowinck U have to give something to get something – maybe saying no to “unexpected” and saying OK to be your own #1 priority? #lrnchat
9:04 PM The_NthDegree I’ve got to run… tummy rumbling will try and be better organised next week :) carry on without me please ;) #lrnchat
9:04 PM Tracy_Parish RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you find communities to learn from and contribute to (other than #lrnchat)? #lrnchat
9:04 PM JaneBozarth @adkpiper ack sorry to hear that. Good to see you tonight! #lrnchat
9:04 PM urbie #lrnchat A3 Risk. Take a chance. Get those crazy ideas out there. The best take root. Or not. But you won’t be worse off because others 1/2
9:04 PM 2be2learn I am curious if we can focus on potpourri #lrnchat now??
9:04 PM LnDDave RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you find communities to learn from and contribute to (other than #lrnchat)? #lrnchat
9:04 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you find communities to learn from and contribute to (other than #lrnchat)? #lrnchat
9:04 PM briandusablon RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you find communities to learn from and contribute to (other than #lrnchat)? #lrnchat
9:04 PM urbie #lrnchat A3 Others will be encouraged to take a chance, too.
9:04 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you find communities to learn from and contribute to (other than #lrnchat)? #lrnchat
9:04 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you find communities to learn from and contribute to (other than #lrnchat)? #lrnchat
9:04 PM kmarranzino @lrnchat: Q4) How do you find communities to learn from and contribute to (other than #lrnchat)? #lrnchat”

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9:05 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you find communities to learn from and contribute to (other than #lrnchat)? #lrnchat
9:05 PM paul_learning need sugar hit off to raid our CEO’s lollie stash #lrnchat
9:05 PM briandusablon Q4) Talk to people. Show your work. Don’t be an asshole (then, you’ll probably get invited). Go outside the industry. #lrnchat
9:05 PM Quinnovator a4) see the communities my peers are engaged in #lrnchat
9:05 PM jadekaz A4) curiousity plus several searches #lrnchat
9:05 PM JD_Dillon A4) Share your thoughts and interests and see what comes back at you #lrnchat https://t.co/w7A8WBov9S
9:05 PM petersonandrew @lrnchat #lrnchat Q4) more importantly, how do you abandon communities that don’t promote learning.
9:05 PM urbie #lrnchat A4 Communities? I find ’em in Twitter. That first one, #EdCampWestTexas was straight outta google. Since it’s been PLN all the way
9:05 PM Quinnovator a4) follow the hashtag #lrnchat
9:05 PM willconstantine Q4) through other groups in other professions #lrnchat
9:05 PM LnDDave A4) I look into the hashtags members of my PLN are using. #lrnchat
9:05 PM write2tg A4) I try and participate in other online communities through MOOC courses, local ISPI CSTD Chapters, HR organizations #lrnchat
9:05 PM lodtrain a4) #LinkedIn great forums Q&amp;A, local ATD chapters, groups and resources @work, elearning heroes #articulate #lrnchat
9:05 PM MeaganJSchmidt Q4: sorry I’m late…but I have found communities and even contribute to some via LinkedIn. #lrnchat
9:06 PM SimonBlairTrain A4: Sometimes I stumble across them in the feeds of people I’m stalking… I mean following on Twitter. #lrnchat
9:06 PM Tracy_Parish a4) Seeking out other chats is a good start. Networking with peers in my PLN and expanding it when I can. See what they are in. #lrnchat
9:06 PM JD_Dillon RT @briandusablon: Q4) Talk to people. Show your work. Don’t be an asshole (then, you’ll probably get invited). Go outside the industry. #l…
9:06 PM deacti_vate A4) Through word of mouth, or through searching. I’m mostly active on the @Articulate community forums and http://t.co/uf58IVUP6u #lrnchat
9:06 PM 2be2learn A4. I find birds of a feather from being an active #volunteer to build my learning community #lrnchat
9:06 PM Tracy_Parish RT @SimonBlairTrain: A4: Sometimes I stumble across them in the feeds of people I’m stalking… I mean following on Twitter. #lrnchat
9:06 PM briandusablon Q4) Start your own. #lrnchat
9:06 PM jadekaz RT @LnDDave: A4) I look into the hashtags members of my PLN are using. #lrnchat
9:06 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you find communities to learn from and contribute to (other than #lrnchat)? #lrnchat
9:06 PM paul_learning A4) Talk to and listen to friends and people I trust. #lrnchat
9:06 PM petersonandrew @briandusablon #lrnchat don’t stay in your silo, the view changes from different windows.
9:06 PM lodtrain RT @2be2learn: A4. I find birds of a feather from being an active #volunteer to build my learning community #lrnchat
9:06 PM LnDDave A4) I review the social media updates of recent connections to look where hey engage in conversation. #lrnchat
9:06 PM JaneBozarth @The_NthDegree No. I’m going to sit under my desk and rock and cry. #lrnchat
9:06 PM urbie #lrnchat A4 It’s cliche now, but if you want a different result you gotta do something (go somewhere, hang out with someone) different
9:07 PM write2tg A4) Twitter, hashtags, LinkedIn groups, Blogs and using curious google searches! #lrnchat
9:07 PM JD_Dillon A4) Contribute. Make an effort. Provide value to the community. #lrnchat
9:07 PM annasabramowicz @brunowinck agree, I do best on long walks…. brain works in the background to solve problems #lrnchat
9:07 PM lodtrain RT @petersonandrew: @briandusablon #lrnchat don’t stay in your silo, the view changes from different windows.
9:07 PM jadekaz RT @petersonandrew: @briandusablon #lrnchat don’t stay in your silo, the view changes from different windows.
9:07 PM JD_Dillon RT @briandusablon: Q4) Start your own. #lrnchat
9:07 PM write2tg RT @LnDDave A4) I review the social media updates of recent connections to look where hey engage in conversation. #lrnchat
9:07 PM urbie #lrnchat A4 http://t.co/XhSM99LItk
9:07 PM briandusablon Q4) Comment on blogs. Respond to people you follow on Twitter – even the umm…”famous” ones. They’ll respond in most cases. #lrnchat
9:07 PM InfinityTRS A4) I find many good communities on LinkedIn with good discussions and feedback. #lrnchat
9:07 PM Holly_Harkness #lrnchat A4. You have to start where you are, with your coworkers. Don’t underestimate what you can learn from your immediate peers
9:07 PM lodtrain RT @urbie: #lrnchat A4 It’s cliche now, but if you want a different result you gotta do something (go somewhere, hang out with someone) dif…
9:07 PM kloomis10 Q4) Collaboration with like-minded co-workers. Following thought experts on twitter. Well written books about innovation. #lrnchat
9:07 PM lodtrain RT @JD_Dillon: A4) Contribute. Make an effort. Provide value to the community. #lrnchat
9:07 PM Tracy_Parish @GnosisMedia and #tweetchatshappeniningnow is a good place to check through. #lrnchat
9:07 PM write2tg RT @2be2learn A4. I find birds of a feather from being an active #volunteer to build my learning community #lrnchat
9:07 PM annasabramowicz @urbie Yeah, otherwise it’s the definition of “insanity” he he! #lrnchat
9:07 PM thevarnish #lrnchat A3 Curiosity killed the cat, but also put a man on the moon. Be a man. Don’t be a cat. Goals are your direction.
9:08 PM lodtrain RT @kloomis10: Q4) Collaboration with like-minded co-workers. Following thought experts on twitter. Well written books about innovation. #l…
9:08 PM JaneBozarth @adkpiper ok. 2014 was hard healthwise for MrDrJane. Still reeling a bit. #lrnchat
9:08 PM deacti_vate A4) I made a small post on social media communities for instructional design and ed tech #lrnchat http://t.co/VNi1Lr8sMB
9:08 PM kelly_smith01 RT @briandusablon: Q4) Talk to people. Show your work. Don’t be an asshole (then, you’ll probably get invited). Go outside the industry. #l…
9:08 PM kmarranzino A4) Colleagues and their networks, professional organizations, PLNs… #lrnchat
9:08 PM Quinnovator RT @briandusablon: Q4) Start your own. #lrnchat
9:08 PM sobith @lrnchat A3) @sobith: A4) “I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious.”
~Albert Einstein #lrnchat
9:08 PM breecouch_ I find people who like to talk about what I like to talk about. Then, I hold them hostage. #lrnchat https://t.co/A30q7tXR4X
9:08 PM JD_Dillon A4) Head to meet-ups in various industries – there’s an app for that! #lrnchat
9:08 PM adkpiper A4 Stumble through lots of communities waiting for one to “stick”. Sometimes move along, sometimes stay. Watch others. Listen. #lrnchat
9:08 PM JaneBozarth RT @briandusablon: Q4) Comment on blogs. Respond to people you follow on Twitter – even the umm…”famous” ones. They’ll respond in most ca…
9:08 PM petersonandrew @urbie #lrnchat learn something you have no business learning, just because.
9:08 PM annasabramowicz RT @JaneBozarth: @adkpiper Hi Hollis. How’s things? #lrnchat – see? we missed you!
9:08 PM JaneBozarth @briandusablon yes — important to engage #lrnchat
9:08 PM briandusablon Q4) Go to non-traditional conferences – unconferences, small retreats, etc. #WDS, #UP2US15, #WordCamp #BarCamp #lrnchat
9:09 PM urbie #lrnchat A4 These books + authors really rock: Teach Like a Pirate @burgessdave, Pure Genius @donwettrick, Show Your Work @JaneBozarth
9:09 PM lodtrain RT @JD_Dillon: A4) Head to meet-ups in various industries – there’s an app for that! #lrnchat
9:09 PM LnDDave A4) Contribute to the world openly and you won’t need to find new communities; they’ll often find you. #lrnchat
9:09 PM willconstantine Q4) you can always talk to strangers #lrnchat
9:09 PM urbie RT @LnDDave: A4) Contribute to the world openly and you won’t need to find new communities; they’ll often find you. #lrnchat
9:09 PM JD_Dillon A4) Engage before, during, and after formal events #lrnchat
9:09 PM MeaganJSchmidt A4: word of mouth…at conferences, often hear about communities etc #lrnchat
9:09 PM jadekaz A4) lurking is not overrated in this domain. Best way to dip in on unexpected #lrnchat
9:09 PM write2tg RT @LnDDave A4) Contribute to the world openly and you won’t need to find new communities; they’ll often find you. #lrnchat
9:09 PM annasabramowicz RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you find communities to learn from and contribute to (other than #lrnchat)? #lrnchat
9:09 PM entensive RT @MeaganJSchmidt: A4: word of mouth…at conferences, often hear about communities etc #lrnchat
9:09 PM urbie #lrnchat A4 What he said: https://t.co/X42qWomecR
9:09 PM JD_Dillon RT @LnDDave: A4) Contribute to the world openly and you won’t need to find new communities; they’ll often find you. #lrnchat
9:10 PM lodtrain RT @MeaganJSchmidt: A4: word of mouth…at conferences, often hear about communities etc #lrnchat
9:10 PM JaneBozarth RT @urbie: #lrnchat A4 These books + authors really rock: Teach Like a Pirate @burgessdave, Pure Genius @donwettrick, Show Your Work @JaneB…
9:10 PM LnDDave RT @JD_Dillon: A4) Engage before, during, and after formal events #lrnchat
9:10 PM briandusablon @2be2learn Heh. Well, if you want an order, I’d say “don’t be an asshole” is first. :) #lrnchat
9:10 PM brunowinck @annasabramowicz thing is if it’s unexpected I don’t have time for it and I don’t learn well when I’m stressed, i tend to hack only #LrnChat
9:10 PM kelly_smith01 A4) As someone already mentioned. Go outside your industry. Look at the benchmarks of others. #lrnchat
9:10 PM urbie @burgessdave @donwettrick @JaneBozarth You saved my bacon yesterday Mr. Burgess. #lrnchat
9:10 PM lrnchat Q5) How does social media positively or negatively impact acquiring new skills? #lrnchat
9:10 PM JaneBozarth @briandusablon good to see you here tonight, btw. #FellowFrenchie #lrnchat
9:10 PM kelly_smith01 RT @briandusablon: Q4) Go to non-traditional conferences – unconferences, small retreats, etc. #WDS, #UP2US15, #WordCamp #BarCamp #lrnchat
9:10 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q5) How does social media positively or negatively impact acquiring new skills? #lrnchat
9:10 PM brunowinck @annasabramowicz impressive how prblems are fixed when I open my eyes in the morning or after walks (twice a day) #lrnchat
9:11 PM 2be2learn @LnDDave I agree. Open your mind to new possibilities and they often find you #lrnchat
9:11 PM susangenden #lrnchat A3) Curiosity leads to serendipitous learning.
9:11 PM adkpiper Want to be an ID/trainer for my friend’s crisis hotline in Houston? Starting salary $62k.

http://t.co/mJMJegoJD8 #lrnchat

9:11 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q5) How does social media positively or negatively impact acquiring new skills? #lrnchat
9:11 PM petersonandrew @briandusablon #THATcamp #lrnchat is a great unconference too (Esp @THATCampGames ) biased disclaimer
9:11 PM kelly_smith01 RT @JD_Dillon: A4) Engage before, during, and after formal events #lrnchat
9:11 PM urbie @annasabramowicz #lrnchat We all do. But do we? Today I admitted I was clueless about a topic and how that made me the perfect reviewer.
9:11 PM thevarnish #lrnchat A4 The usual suspects: twitter, etc. The good ones bubble up fast. Latch on, B a leech. Then turn it around and provide for others.
9:11 PM briandusablon Q4) True story. I’d never be close to where I am or what I am today had I not commented on @aaronesilvers Flash For Learning blog. #lrnchat
9:11 PM briandusablon RT @lrnchat: Q5) How does social media positively or negatively impact acquiring new skills? #lrnchat
9:11 PM urbie RT @petersonandrew: @briandusablon #THATcamp #lrnchat is a great unconference too (Esp @THATCampGames ) biased disclaimer
9:11 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q5) How does social media positively or negatively impact acquiring new skills? #lrnchat
9:11 PM briandusablon Q5) SoMe makes it easier to find sources, but you still have to put in the work. #lrnchat
9:11 PM JaneBozarth That’s right, #lrnchat. “Bozarth” is French. Beaux-Arts, see?
9:12 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q5) How does social media positively or negatively impact acquiring new skills? #lrnchat
9:12 PM willconstantine Q5) if you know how to manage it, GREAT! If not DISTRACTION #lrnchat
9:12 PM jadekaz a4) bacon can often get you into new communities. Just check the #bacon hashtag #lrnchat
9:12 PM adkpiper And I’d love your help telling @battle4justice where to post that job to attract lots of great IDs.

http://t.co/mJMJegoJD8
#lrnchat

9:12 PM 2be2learn @jadekaz agree. Learn by lurking and then ask someone to teach you what they know and then include you #lrnchat
9:12 PM paul_learning A5) some early work suggests it is limiting ability of children to deal with complex sentence structures. #lrnchat
9:12 PM Tracy_Parish #lrnchat http://t.co/z1UYzWtYEE
9:12 PM deacti_vate A5) Positive: I learn about all the new skills I want to learn. Negative: I have too much to learn now #lrnchat
9:12 PM JD_Dillon A5) Provides opportunities for filtering info through trusted sources and sharing rapidly at scale #lrnchat https://t.co/orfIZpS1Gm
9:12 PM brunowinck A4) if i really want to learn I would do an investigation, who wrote on it, chat on it, from whom they take ideas #lrnchat
9:12 PM briandusablon @JaneBozarth Ditto. #lrnchat is always better with Wonder Twins. :-)
9:12 PM JD_Dillon RT @briandusablon: Q5) SoMe makes it easier to find sources, but you still have to put in the work. #lrnchat
9:12 PM urbie #lrnchat A5 Positive: a couple months ago Mrs went with me to #EdCampAwesome. 2000 mi there and back over four days together. #wow
9:12 PM LnDDave RT @briandusablon: Q5) SoMe makes it easier to find sources, but you still have to put in the work. #lrnchat
9:12 PM Quinnovator a5) social media, well done, facilitates you finding sources to follow, allows you to filter, part of successful #PKM #lrnchat
9:12 PM kmarranzino RT @lrnchat: Q5) How does social media positively or negatively impact acquiring new skills? #lrnchat
9:12 PM Tracy_Parish RT @lrnchat: Q5) How does social media positively or negatively impact acquiring new skills? #lrnchat
9:13 PM JaneBozarth @jadekaz srsly. show up w bacon and you’re set #lrnchat
9:13 PM SimonBlairTrain Quelle surprise! :-) #lrnchat https://t.co/VtuHJEaBTK
9:13 PM briandusablon I concur whole-heartedly. RT @jadekaz a4) bacon can often get you into new communities. Just check the #bacon hashtag #lrnchat
9:13 PM JD_Dillon A5) I can read the article AND contact the author to learn more #lrnchat
9:13 PM petersonandrew RT @lrnchat: Q5) How does social media positively or negatively impact acquiring new skills? #lrnchat
9:13 PM JaneBozarth RT @briandusablon: @JaneBozarth Ditto. #lrnchat is always better with Wonder Twins. :-)
9:13 PM StefaniaMonti18 RT @lrnchat: Q5) How does social media positively or negatively impact acquiring new skills? #lrnchat
9:13 PM briandusablon @jadekaz and, at the very least, you still have the bacon. #lrnchat
9:13 PM urbie #lrnchat A5 Negative: late 2013 on the way home from #EdCampPlano a crate off a semi slammed into my Pilot. 3 days downtime in Pecos, TX.
9:13 PM lodtrain A5) POSITIVELY IMPACTS new skills for me, I learn one new thing a day via SocMe – grateful! #lrnchat
9:13 PM InfinityTRS A5) Social media can introduce you to new things to entice your curiosity. #lrnchat
9:13 PM 2be2learn A5. First determine if social media engagement itself is a skill. #lrnchat
9:14 PM Tracy_Parish Social media is “very shiny” and can be distracting when trying to learn new……SQUIRREL #lrnchat
9:14 PM annasabramowicz @urbie Ha! I love this! My favourite line is “imagine me as a 9yo, now explain it to me… slowly” I get the best info this way #lrnchat
9:14 PM urbie #lrnchat A5 But there was a silver lining.. time for reflection + I got to take a deep dive into fracking.
9:14 PM petersonandrew #lrnchat Q5) 50% distraction, 50% motivator, depends on the day and the topic.
9:14 PM SimonBlairTrain @JaneBozarth @jadekaz Everything’s better with bacon! #lrnchat
9:14 PM Quinnovator a5) social media can be an attention sink, managing it successfully is a personal knowledge mastery #PKM skill #Lrnchat
9:14 PM LnDDave RT @lrnchat: Q5) How does social media positively or negatively impact acquiring new skills? #lrnchat
9:14 PM write2tg A5) Positive impact of SoMe to acquire new skills: ‘New’ is easy to find and positive reviews from people you trust matter. #lrnchat
9:14 PM JD_Dillon A5) SoMe lets me throw out new ideas and get immediate, diverse feedback #lrnchat
9:14 PM kmarranzino A5) It does both; it’s entirely dependent on how the learner uses the social media. It can either be great resource or distraction #lrnchat
9:14 PM JaneBozarth RT @Tracy_Parish: Social media is “very shiny” and can be distracting when trying to learn new……SQUIRREL #lrnchat
9:14 PM paul_learning RT @Tracy_Parish Social media is “very shiny” and can be distracting when trying to learn new……SQUIRREL #lrnchat
9:15 PM brunowinck A5) great benefit of social media for learning get instantly to the latest point of K available on this day, saves catchup #lrnchat
9:15 PM Holly_Harkness A5 negatively, if you cling to your familiars. Positively, if you get out of your comfort zone. #lrnchat
9:15 PM susangenden #lrnchat A5 impact of social media is up to you. Use curiosity to grow.
9:15 PM write2tg A5) Negative impact of SoMe to acquire new skills: Biases creep in, it is a sea of information, can be draining to learn #lrnchat
9:15 PM jadekaz RT @SimonBlairTrain: @JaneBozarth @jadekaz Everything’s better with bacon! #lrnchat
9:15 PM petersonandrew #lrnchat don’t make me link to cute cat videos…….
9:15 PM JaneBozarth @briandusablon @jadekaz #WINNING #lrnchat
9:15 PM briandusablon Q5) Drawbacks to SoMe? Trolls. Tunnel vision. Too many fans, “yes” peeps. #lrnchat
9:15 PM annasabramowicz @deacti_vate If I didn’t say earlier – your new site looks gooourgeousss! Nice work! #lrnchat
9:15 PM paul_learning @janebozarth another comment from that could have been from you. #lrnchat
9:15 PM write2tg RT @JD_Dillon A5) SoMe lets me throw out new ideas and get immediate, diverse feedback #lrnchat
9:16 PM adkpiper A5 SoMe can be an amplifier, boosting both signal and noise. Useful if you can find helpful people who guide or inspire you. #lrnchat
9:16 PM brunowinck @JaneBozarth like pot pourri is also French, different meaning though :) #lrnchat
9:16 PM Tracy_Parish Social media is an amazing way to connect with people that you otherwise could not connect . #lrnchat
9:16 PM LnDDave A5) one social media limitation is the overuse of the label “expert” and the challenge of verifying it. #lrnchat
9:16 PM lrnchat Q6) How do our skills/talents cultivate our imagination to solve to solve new problems? #lrnchat
9:16 PM deacti_vate @annasabramowicz aw thank you!! #lrnchat
9:16 PM LnDDave RT @Tracy_Parish: Social media is “very shiny” and can be distracting when trying to learn new……SQUIRREL #lrnchat
9:16 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q6) How do our skills/talents cultivate our imagination to solve to solve new problems? #lrnchat
9:16 PM petersonandrew #lrnchat perfect example, I should be working on my EdD dissertation on Game-Based Learning currently, but i’m not….. thanks
9:16 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q5) How does social media positively or negatively impact acquiring new skills? #lrnchat
9:16 PM brunowinck true? examples ? #lrnchat https://t.co/R1uZZxqV5g
9:16 PM paul_learning @petersonandrew It should though cute cat videos are the best thing about the internet. #lrnchat
9:16 PM adkpiper @battle4justice You’re welcome! #lrnchat is the place to find all the cool instructional designers and learning people hanging out on Thu.
9:16 PM juliannapolitan A5) It’s a great place to start looking for self-directed resources on pretty much anything #lrnchat
9:16 PM breecouch_ Without #lrnchat, I wouldn’t have access to all of you. This chat motivates me to learn and do more. https://t.co/T4Z3H87MNx
9:16 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q6) How do our skills/talents cultivate our imagination to solve to solve new problems? #lrnchat
9:16 PM SimonBlairTrain @LnDDave We need an expert-spotting expert. :-) #lrnchat
9:17 PM MeaganJSchmidt RT @Tracy_Parish: Social media is an amazing way to connect with people that you otherwise could not connect . #lrnchat
9:17 PM urbie #lrnchat A5 Oh yeah.. selfies. You got those don’t/won’t under any circumstance. Then there’s them that does/a lot. Good, bad? Dunno.
9:17 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q6) How do our skills/talents cultivate our imagination to solve to solve new problems? #lrnchat
9:17 PM jadekaz a5) honestly, downside is “credibility” with Luddites. “Oh, you’re one of those” #lrnchat
9:17 PM JaneBozarth SoMe puts so many things in my path that I might never see otherwise #lrnchat
9:17 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q6) How do our skills/talents cultivate our imagination to solve to solve new problems? #lrnchat
9:17 PM LnDDave A5) social media helps me solve performance problems much faster than Google. #lrnchat
9:17 PM LnDDave RT @briandusablon: Q5) Drawbacks to SoMe? Trolls. Tunnel vision. Too many fans, “yes” peeps. #lrnchat
9:17 PM JeremyDBond A5) Scheduled Twitter chats have caused people to sit at home and regularly converge around common topics. #lrnchat https://t.co/FiJEKMw4zK
9:18 PM deacti_vate A6) Can typically apply knowledge from one skill to another. PowerPoint-&gt;Storyline, variables in Storyline to programming #lrnchat
9:18 PM jadekaz @brunowinck I ate bacon tonight. And look what happened. #lrnchat
9:18 PM LnDDave RT @lrnchat: Q6) How do our skills/talents cultivate our imagination to solve to solve new problems? #lrnchat
9:18 PM lodtrain A6) Skills/Talents help solve new problems by giving you a leg up on some basics and dive into the true solution… #lrnchat
9:18 PM MeaganJSchmidt RT @JaneBozarth: SoMe puts so many things in my path that I might never see otherwise #lrnchat
9:18 PM JD_Dillon A6) One little spark of inspiration is at the heart of all creation … Anyone? #lrnchat https://t.co/K6on2CzPMo
9:18 PM lodtrain RT @JaneBozarth: SoMe puts so many things in my path that I might never see otherwise #lrnchat
9:18 PM Quinnovator a6) um, can someone explain the question? my curiosity and imagination are taxed #lrnchat #bearofverylittlebrain
9:18 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 On my 4th career. Old ones were electronics engineer, US Navy, technical trainer. Now empathy engineer (instructional designer)
9:18 PM lodtrain RT @deacti_vate: A6) Can typically apply knowledge from one skill to another. PowerPoint-&gt;Storyline, variables in Storyline to programming …
9:18 PM thevarnish #lrnchat A5 SoMe can help find new sources for new learning, but learning (and teaching) still has to take place. That takes normal effort.
9:18 PM LizZakos #princeharry says no to selfies Won’t #lrnchat https://t.co/YnvDvSVvjE
9:19 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 The reality is I know a LOT of useless (old) stuff. Wait, wait, wait.. all is not hopeless though.. 1/2
9:19 PM write2tg A6) When we cultivate transferable skills, we are much more imaginative in solving problems! #lrnchat
9:19 PM aaronesilvers RT @briandusablon: Q4) True story. I’d never be close to where I am or what I am today had I not commented on @aaronesilvers Flash For Lear…
9:19 PM LnDDave A5) expanding your skill set provides extra context to pull from to imagine solutions to problems. #lrnchat
9:19 PM The_NthDegree Just to add an ironic twist I’m at Le Chat Noir for lunch – curious if you know French of course #lrnchat
9:19 PM 2be2learn A6. Apply your knowledge and skills to ask the better question #lrnchat
9:19 PM brunowinck @jadekaz didn’t have bacon since my first trp in UK, was 8yo:) , never understood #lrnchat
9:19 PM briandusablon Q6) I think skills/talent is more a means to execute what your imagination produces to solve problems. #lrnchat
9:19 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 Turns out that old know-how is just waiting for a nudge or trigger to reactivate/repurpose it
9:19 PM willconstantine We’re able to apply a concept to a different context. My cooking translates to my business more than I think! #lrnchat
9:19 PM kmarranzino @lrnchat: Q6) How do our skills/talents cultivate our imagination to solve new problems? #lrnchat”
9:19 PM JaneBozarth RT @jadekaz: @brunowinck I ate bacon tonight. And look what happened. #lrnchat
9:19 PM Quinnovator a6) isn’t it the other way around, our imagination spurs on our skills and talents? #lrnchat
9:19 PM LnDDave RT @JaneBozarth: SoMe puts so many things in my path that I might never see otherwise #lrnchat
9:19 PM karenlkaye RT @JaneBozarth: Constantly ask, “how did you learn that?” “why do know that?” of yourself and others. #lrnchat
9:19 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 I think that’s what #EdCamp and #tlap did. They made me see old stuff in a new light.
9:19 PM lodtrain RT @2be2learn: A6. Apply your knowledge and skills to ask the better question #lrnchat
9:19 PM write2tg RT @lodtrain RT @2be2learn: A6. Apply your knowledge and skills to ask the better question #lrnchat
9:19 PM aaronesilvers @briandusablon I would not be where I am today had you not commented. #lrnchat #forserious
9:20 PM DonWettrick RT @urbie: #lrnchat A4 These books + authors really rock: Teach Like a Pirate @burgessdave, Pure Genius @donwettrick, Show Your Work @JaneB…
9:20 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 For sure #tlap made me realize I was foolish to be afraid of writing/submitting a #DevLearn presentation proposal.
9:20 PM JaneBozarth RT @deacti_vate: A6) Can typi