Welcome

November 12, 2009 by Marcia Conner

#lrnchat is an online chat that happens every Thursday night 8:30-10pm EST / 5:30-7pm PST over the social messaging service Twitter. Participants are people interested in the topic of learning from one another and who want to discuss how to help other people learn.

The official Twitter account is @lrnchat. Learn more here. Instruction on how to #lrnchat are always available in the sidebar links.

After each chat we post a transcript of that night’s chat. The times listed in the transcript are based on which member of the #lrnchat moderation crew creates the transcript (and which time-zone they’re creating it from).

We have aspirations of creating a #lrnchat for participants for people in other parts of the world, sleeping while the original lrnchat is taking place, but we haven’t gotten that organized yet. If you’re interested in being a moderator, please let us know through the @lrnchat account.

OFF through the rest of 2009. Have a wonderful holiday season and learn, learn, learn!

Transcript 17 Dec 2009

December 18, 2009 by Marcia Conner

8:30:48 pm lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been? Q0 warm up after the rules.
8:30:53 pm jaycross: Watch out for heavy volume! #lrnchat is about to begin. #lrnchat
8:31:16 pm Quinnovator: @Ginaschreck cat herder, lunatic fringe wrangler #lrnchat
8:31:32 pm lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1) Introduce yourself. (We do this again at the end). Location? Focus? Fave topics?
8:31:36 pm shantarohse: Getting my TweetChat primed for #lrnchat
8:31:39 pm Ginaschreck: @joe_deegan HA HA! Yes bandwidth is definitely a MUST HAVE in virtual worlds :) #lrnchat
8:31:51 pm jaycross: Wonderful day in the Bay Area. Blue skies. Slight nip in the air. #lrnchat
8:31:56 pm marciamarcia: Looking forward to tonight’s #lrnchat on immersive tech. Trying to immerse myself in it all as best as I can.
8:32:26 pm butwait: RT @Quinnovator laptop, check; game on, check; beer, check. Ready for #lrnchat next 90 mins furious tweeting, ignore or better yet, join in!
8:32:31 pm lrnchat: 2) [try to] stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 20 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
8:32:48 pm gwoodill: Gary Woodill, three poodles and two cats from Canada. Brandon Hall Research. #lrnchat
8:33:09 pm KoreenOlbrish: balancing SL and chat is gonna be a challenge ;) #lrnchat
8:33:13 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, Walnut Creek CA, learning design instigator, writer, speaker, consultant, trouble-maker, #lrnchat wrangler
8:33:15 pm BlakeGroup: Amy here! I’m a graphic designer/writer for clients in water utilities, healthcare, education, prof servs. Ready to learn! #lrnchat
8:33:16 pm JaneBozarth: RDU trainer, author, able multitasker, gubmint worker, drive too fast #lrnchat
8:33:19 pm lrnchat: 3) When writing, complete thoughts help followers outside chat learn from you. 4) on #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm, welcome tho.
8:33:28 pm KAKoehler: Looking forward to the next 90 minutes with #lrnchat.
8:33:33 pm jaycross: Jay Cross, speaker and author, Berkeley hills, focus = performance, faves = reality, art, nature, time, learning, sex, travel #lrnchat
8:33:33 pm marciamarcia: Marcia Conner, #lrnchat founder, writing book on social media for learning, hear we’re getting 2ft of snow tomorrow in VA.
8:33:43 pm kkapp: #lrnchat professor Instructional Tech, Bloomsburg University, interested in VIEs, book on topic out in January…Learning in 3D #lrn3d
8:34:05 pm odguru: Christy from Guelph, On, Canada – knowledge networks, mentoring learning transfer and measurement. #lrnchat
8:34:07 pm Ginaschreck: Gina Schreck reporting for duty here in #lrnchat from Denver Colroado
8:34:08 pm JoelFoner: For my followers… I’ll be in a chat on #lrnchat for about an hour… so you’ll see higher than normal volume for an hour. #lrnchat
8:34:13 pm jsuzcampos: Jeannette Campos, ISD, Grad Prof, Small Bus Owner, Signing in from New Hampshire where it is a balmy 3 degrees! #lrnchat
8:34:18 pm sahana2802: Sahana from Pune, India, Instructional designer, passionate abt learning, believe in power of collective knowledge, hate to miss #lrnchat,
8:34:18 pm jaycross: RT When writing, complete thoughts help followers outside chat learn from you. We aim to play nice. Sarcasm, welcome tho. #lrnchat
8:34:23 pm jkmind: #lrnchat Jesse from bitterly cold central NJ. I’m working on sims right now at work so perfect timing on the topic
8:34:25 pm kinda_gay: Hey followers … for next 90min I’ll be chatting about learning on #lrnchat.
8:34:26 pm lrnchat: 5) Periodically RT questions so others outside #lrnchat know what you’re talking about so they can chime in.
8:34:30 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth and twitter celebrity, with groupies and all! #lrnchat
8:34:38 pm ChristyATucker: Lots of activity in the next 90 minutes as I participate in #lrnchat
8:34:38 pm MikeAbrams: Michael Abrams Phoenix AZ #lrnchat
8:34:39 pm kellygarber: <– freelance instructional designer, looking for the lrnchat rehab program #lrnchat
8:34:50 pm gwoodill: Temperature about a nice -10 (that’s for Jay). Refreshing Canadian winter night. #lrnchat
8:35:14 pm reward75: Regina Ward, NYC jack of all things elearning #lrnchat
8:35:15 pm J_Schulz: John Schulz, Learning Techy Guy, Chicago #lrnchat
8:35:26 pm jaycross: Any of you Europeans take the hint to join us here? #lrnchat
8:35:31 pm SueSchnorr: Sue Schnorr, Rochester, NY – independent instructional design consultant #lrnchat
8:35:31 pm Mary_a_Myers: Mary Myers learning consultant trying to stay warm in cold temps in kingston, ON; coming down from a great client meeting high. #lrnchat
8:35:46 pm lrnchat: 6) Remember to include the #lrnchat in all posts. http://tweetchat.com, http://tweetgrid.com & http://twubs.com/lrnchat work well.
8:35:53 pm KoreenOlbrish: Koreen Olbrish (SL: Nina Sommerfleck) immersive learning geek and ready for tonight’s chat. W00t! #lrnchat
8:36:05 pm bschlenker: #lrnchat Brent Schlenker – DevLearn – No books coming out – Arizona 74 degrees and awesome!
8:36:11 pm Mary_a_Myers: @jaycross in that order? #lrnchat
8:36:13 pm Quinnovator: @kellygarber rehab? If #lrnchat is wrong, I don’t want to be right
8:36:38 pm Ginaschreck: @lrnchat Glad to hear that sarcasm is welcome here in #lrnchat
8:36:41 pm lrnchat: 7) 10 min before end, tell us if you need anything from the other #lrnchat participants. Time to reintroduce yourself, too. Links welcome.
8:36:50 pm JaneBozarth: @quinnovator want an autograph? #lrnchat
8:37:40 pm gminks: Gina Minks – elearning person at EMC – more details coming soon, on winter break b4 my last sem @ FSU! :) and I love @janebozarth #lrnchat
8:37:41 pm chambo_online: @KoreenOlbrish what starting place will the #lrnchat SL be? (chamboonline Jillybean) #lrnchat
8:37:42 pm kkapp: @JaneBozarth #lrnchat, I do I do, or just a few books:)
8:37:50 pm lrnchat: 8) Please RT important points & vital questions asked for clarification, so we don’t miss them amid the lively fast-paced #lrnchat
8:37:53 pm gwoodill: On topic – Alex Heiphetz & I have new book-virtual worlds for training & collaboration. http://tinyurl.com/ybw42q6 #lrnchat
8:38:24 pm joshcav: #lrnchat CEO, Lodestone Digital . Adobe Training Partner. Speaker. Captain Captivate. Rapid eLeanring dev tools. http://bit.ly/8HHwBv
8:38:29 pm gminks: RT @gwoodill: On topic – Alex Heiphetz & I have new book-virtual worlds for training & collaboration. http://tinyurl.com/ybw42q6 #lrnchat
8:38:43 pm urbie: #lrnchat urbie delgado, unlv.. doctoral student [owie].. journey-person level instructional designer.. http://www.ifthenmaybe.com..
8:38:51 pm Jenrocoh: hoping to bring elearning into 21st century for my org. Know nothing. Listening fiercely. #lrnchat
8:38:53 pm hjarche: I’m Harold, live on the Net, I’m tired & perhaps cranky (crankier than usual), so I’m just lurking tonight #lrnchat
8:39:04 pm JaneBozarth: And I love @gminks . It’s a Twitter thing. #lrnchat
8:39:07 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @gwoodill: On topic – Alex Heiphetz & I have new book-virtual worlds for training & collaboration. http://tinyurl.com/ybw42q6 #lrnchat
8:39:08 pm Quinnovator: RT @kkapp: @JaneBozarth #lrnchat, I do I do, or just a few books:)
8:39:11 pm kellygarber: @Quinnovator when I’m fixing to miss a project deadline yet I couldn’t miss lrnchat? …wrong, wrong, wrong … #lrnchat
8:39:14 pm lrnchat: Q0 (our weekly #lrnchat welcome, also check out @lrn2day) What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
8:39:37 pm butwait: Likely to be in & out tonite… have to help boy w/ post-practice shower, book-reading, etc. Princeton, NJ… about 12 degrees F. #lrnchat
8:39:41 pm gminks: @JaneBozarth yay. sigh. #lrnchat
8:39:51 pm marciamarcia: For those of you sharing ur SL names, hope you’ll offer advice to the rest on #lrnchat “if I could name myself again…”
8:39:58 pm KoreenOlbrish: @chambo_online http://bit.ly/6aINpd we’re here :) #lrnchat
8:40:00 pm Abhinava: Abhinava from Bangalore, India. Sleep deprived but at #lrnchat. Believe in creating holistic, optimism and elegant learning solutions…
8:40:04 pm Ginaschreck: If you want to pop in #lrnchat Second Life -there are a few of us here tweeting & visiting- location http://bit.ly/6aINpd
8:40:06 pm gminks: I learned that being able to communicate across domains is HARRDDDDD #lrnchat
8:40:10 pm jsuzcampos: @JaneBozarth: And I love @gminks . Its a Twitter thing. <<where’s @cammybean? She was feelin’ the #lrnchat love last week :-) #lrnchat
8:40:17 pm gminks: @hjarche woowoo mr cranky! #lrnchat
8:40:22 pm Mary_a_Myers: I learned my social style: amiable expressive…but I’m not sure what it really means. #lrnchat
8:40:30 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q1) have you been in a virtual world? If so, how? If not, why not? #lrnchat
8:40:33 pm ChristyATucker: Q0: This week I’ve been learning about Brinkerhoff’s Success Case Method for level 3 evaluation #lrnchat
8:40:34 pm JaneBozarth: I work for state govt. Ain’t that enough virtual reality? #lrnchat
8:40:42 pm kkapp: #lrnchat Yes, teach a class called Learning in 3D, we use SL and ProtoSphere
8:40:50 pm MikeAbrams: Just joined the group in Second Life. My SL name is “Milford Revnik”. going on 2 years #lrnchat
8:41:00 pm allisunelearns: Allisun O’Connell here, redwoods of N. Ca, work with Moodlerooms designing eLearning, into everything about eLearning. #lrnchat
8:41:02 pm davegray: Dave Gray checking in from St Louis #lrnchat
8:41:04 pm butwait: @lrn2day I learned today that even an offhand word of encouragement can mean the world to a struggling student. #lrnchat
8:41:09 pm odguru: Well, I’ve just learned about this great new book… http://tinyurl.com/ybw42q6 #lrnchat (via and by @wgoodill)
8:41:19 pm JaneBozarth: @gminks only loves me b/c I am planning her graduation party… #lrnchat
8:41:27 pm hjarche: @jaycross it’s bloody late in Europe #lrnchat
8:41:30 pm Quinnovator: q1) have been in-world, to meet with folks, attend presentations, no real formal learning #lrnchat
8:41:32 pm gminks: I need a new SL name. For my class next semester. I’ve been boycotting SL. grrr. #lrnchat
8:41:34 pm JoelFoner: RT @lrnchat: Q1) have you been in a virtual world? If so, how? If not, why not? #lrnchat
8:41:40 pm urbie: #lrnchat to paraphrase Gen. G.S. Patton, in training as in war, good-enough is the right strategy to pursue.. that’s what i learned..
8:41:40 pm gwoodill: Q0 – learned a political campaign is like a startup business. http://www.brandon-hall.com/workplacelearningtoday/?p=8656 #lrnchat
8:41:41 pm jaycross: Q1: Tried SL but couldn’t get into it. Proton Media works great for meetings. #lrnchat
8:41:47 pm reward75: Q0 I learned that women are socially penalized for negotiating #lrnchat
8:41:50 pm gminks: heh RT @JaneBozarth: I work for state govt. Aint that enough virtual reality? #lrnchat
8:41:53 pm kanor74: I am in SL now and on #lrnchat Come on in…. and join the fun! #lrnchat
8:41:58 pm ThomasStone: Thomas Stone, from Element K in Rochester, NY, where it is a lovely 9 degrees F at the moment. Warm and ready for #lrnchat
8:42:00 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) Never been in a virtual world. All I know about virtual worlds, I learned in one episode of The Office. (true confession) #lrnchat
8:42:01 pm Quinnovator: q0) what I learned this week: relearned to challenge myself (guess they’re called ’stretch goals’ now) #lrnchat
8:42:04 pm gminks: YOU ARE!!!???!!! RT @JaneBozarth: @gminks only loves me b/c I am planning her graduation party… #lrnchat
8:42:12 pm JoelFoner: I’ve been running virtual and “real world” projects and having bus mtgs in Second Life and other vw’s for about three years. #lrnchat
8:42:22 pm BlakeGroup: Q1 Have not yet visited Second Life or other virtual world….curious…what are the benefits? #lrnchat
8:42:24 pm SueSchnorr: checked out Second Life on friend’s account, to see what it’s all about #lrnchat
8:42:30 pm MikeAbrams: q1) used SL for networking meetups, formal/informal training, process mapping, teambuilding, team meetings #lrnchat
8:42:36 pm allisunelearns: Q) I learned yesterday that Blackboard CE does not support Firefox or IE8 #lrnchat
8:42:37 pm shapah: superb @butwait: @lrn2day I learned today that even an offhand word of encouragement can mean the world to a struggling student. #lrnchat
8:42:42 pm gminks: @JaneBozarth I’ve been talking tonight abt taking pics when I walk across the stage so I can tweet them. heh. #lrnchat
8:42:43 pm Mary_a_Myers: @jaycross i should have anticipated that answer ;) #lrnchat
8:42:49 pm sahana2802: RT @Quinnovator q0) what I learned this week: relearned to challenge myself (guess they’re called ’stretch goals’ now) #lrnchat
8:42:56 pm kanor74: I’ve been in SL since ‘06…teach grad class here, manage office for rl company. Tons of educators in SL! #lrnchat
8:43:01 pm Quinnovator: q1) but watching powerpoint presentations just doesn’t seem to me to be real value proposition of VWs #lrnchat
8:43:01 pm ThomasStone: So for this #lrnchat are we all going to consistently use “SL” to mean “Second Life” instead of “Social Learning”? I’m assuming.
8:43:02 pm kellygarber: Q1 the question could be – have you been in the real world.. I could answer that in under 140 #lrnchat
8:43:03 pm JaneBozarth: @jsuzcampos I don’t know where @cammybean is. Her kids usually go to bed right around #lrnchat time
8:43:04 pm kkapp: @jaycross SL can be cumbersome at times #lrnchat still needs some work as does the whole space but moving in leaps and bounds
8:43:42 pm shantarohse: The last time I was in SL was early 2005. Has anything changed? #lrnchat
8:43:44 pm sahana2802: Learned this week that I can set up WebEx sessions on my own in spite of a sometime wonky connection. #lrnchat
8:43:48 pm everyselearning: I’m in now! Eliza Zulaman. Hi all! #lrnchat
8:43:58 pm JaneBozarth: My SL name is Janiebelle Beaumont but not there tonight b/c it would implode my little pink netbook #lrnchat
8:44:12 pm marciamarcia: Yes RT @ThomasStone So for this #lrnchat are we all going to consistently use “SL” to mean “Second Life” instead of “Social Learning”?
8:44:14 pm kkapp: @jsuzcampos That was a great episode, LOL at Dwight. #lrnchat
8:44:15 pm ChristyATucker: Q1) I’ve been in Second Life for an online conference over a year ago, but not anything recently #lrnchat
8:44:21 pm gminks: @JaneBozarth: @jsuzcampos I’m ready for another NE meet up. That will bring @cammybean out of hiding #lrnchat
8:44:24 pm kanor74: @ThomasStone Yes, SL for Second LIfe….but we won’t tell Linden Lab! #lrnchat
8:44:27 pm allisunelearns: Q1) I joined SL a year ago, attended a tour on the SLOODLE integration with Moodle, that’s about the end of it. #lrnchat
8:44:31 pm shapah: this week i re-learned: garbage in, garbage out #lrnchat
8:44:36 pm rbacal: Guilford’s Structure of Intellect: http://bit.ly/6CqaTc Originator of Multiple Intelligences. Born 1897 #lrnchat
8:44:38 pm Quinnovator: RT @kkapp: @jaycross SL can be cumbersome at times #lrnchat still needs some work as does the whole space but moving in leaps and bounds
8:44:39 pm sahana2802: @ErickTaft Good morning! :) missed ur tweet earlier in the stream…#lrnchat
8:44:43 pm JoelFoner: Benefits – better audio than conf calls, more engaging than speakerphone, less complex than video. Can script interactive things. #lrnchat
8:44:47 pm JaneBozarth: @quinnovator I’ll autograph every book you buy. #lrnchat
8:44:48 pm sspaz1000: @lrnchat Q0) I learned today to make sure to triple check stuff when typing up fixes for courses. #lrnchat
8:44:51 pm reward75: Q1 I did SL for a grad class and stayed on for a few months more. Gradually stopped going #lrnchat
8:44:57 pm kkapp: @shantarohse SL a little more stable, search is redesigned, no legal gambling #lrnchat
8:44:59 pm Ginaschreck: I am in Second Life as well as Reaction Grid- getting ready to do a big build project for profes devel in there #lrnchat
8:45:00 pm jaycross: Hi, Karl. Karl Kapp and Tony O’Driscoll have a new book coming out on learning in 3 dimensions. http://bit.ly/8bgrQB #lrnchat
8:45:01 pm Abhinava: To me… The internet is a virtual world… dReams and imagination also create VWs… #lrnchat – VWs are more real than we think… Q1
8:45:04 pm gminks: ok signing up again for SL. First name will be monet, what should my last name be? #lrnchat
8:45:07 pm spotlearning: Hi all. Been away, but glad to be back on #lrnchat
8:45:11 pm ThomasStone: Q0: I learned today that the quirky little book I published last year now has two customer reviews at Amazon http://bit.ly/8oS3ph #lrnchat
8:45:12 pm KoreenOlbrish: Can’t think of too many virtual worlds I haven’t been in… #lrnchat
8:45:13 pm kasey428: Sorry, late to the party: Kay Wood DC metro area, performance and learning specialist, ID extraordinaire #lrnchat
8:45:23 pm sahana2802: RT @gminks @JaneBozarth: @jsuzcampos I’m ready for another NE meet up. That will bring @cammybean out of hiding #lrnchat wish I were there.
8:45:36 pm gwoodill: Q1 – benefits of virtual worlds – presence! You quickly talk to people. Also, some of the sims I’ve seen are quite real. #lrnchat
8:45:38 pm butwait: @everyselearning Hi, Eliza! Glad you made it. 1) I think I’ve an SL account, but haven’t really spent any time. No MUST do impetus. #lrnchat
8:45:42 pm Quinnovator: my SL name is ‘Quinnovate Something’ (seriously!), but not trying tonite with #lrnchat, game, etc #lrnchat
8:45:45 pm joshcav: Q1: I tried Second Life and have used it on and off for a few years. My SL name is Lodestone Loon #lrnchat
8:45:58 pm JaneBozarth: Welcome @kkapp, who has a new book on the way.. Karl, pls tell us title/release date? #lrnchat
8:46:25 pm gminks: @sahana2802 awww I do too!!! #lrnchat
8:46:26 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth pshaw, I’ll do a book *exchange* #lrnchat
8:46:29 pm kellygarber: Q1 – SL is like going on a journey to another planet, every visit is about learning something new. (Cricket Crumb) #lrnchat
8:46:41 pm butwait: Family home, gotta scoot for a while, “Sweeties before tweeties,” as we say around here. Sorry, gang! Keep sharin’ the good stuff! #lrnchat
8:46:56 pm odguru: My first virtual reality experience was with Miramichi College in New Brunswick in 1996… Have done some SL and a few others. #lrnchat
8:47:03 pm Quinnovator: @davegray great to see you here! #lrnchat
8:47:04 pm tomkuehl: Tom eLearning Mgr NYC-yes second life tried to get something going at my org #lrnchat http://myloc.me/2a1Cm
8:47:07 pm jaycross: Does anyone publish books in SL yet? #lrnchat
8:47:09 pm MariaOD: Hi #lrnchat! WoW, its been awhile. Maria from Columbus,Ohio where you never know how the Bucks or the weather will do in any given moment!
8:47:14 pm kasey428: Signed up for SL 18 months ago. Had no clue what to do when I got in. Left & never went back. It’s not intuitive. #lrnchat
8:47:17 pm sahana2802: RT @jaycross Hi, Karl. Karl Kapp and Tony O’Driscoll have a new book coming out on learning in 3 dimensions. http://bit.ly/8bgrQB #lrnchat
8:47:28 pm kinda_gay: 8) Please RT important points & vital questions asked for clarification, so we don’t miss them amid the lively fast-paced #lrnchat
8:47:29 pm MikeAbrams: @kellygarber the beauty is that you get a hand in creating the elements of that journey as well. you can be an architect #lrnchat
8:47:33 pm SueSchnorr: Q1 Has anyone used SL in corp training? #lrnchat
8:47:35 pm chambo_online: Lisa Chamberlin – SL novice, and just discovered social media is the path to enlightenment #justfinishedDan BrownTheLostSymbol #lrnchat
8:47:37 pm J_Schulz: Finally in SL (LearnMe Wizardly) – had to download new viewer. #lrnchat
8:47:37 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator Ok I’ll autograph every book you give me, too. #lrnchat
8:47:56 pm RickNielsen: #lrnchat rick here – the social learning possibilities relative to an internal IS incident reporting – of interest to me…
8:47:59 pm hybridkris: A little late to the #lrnchat party. Kris Rockwell, Pittsburgh, PA. ARG’s and Mobile learning punk.
8:48:06 pm kkapp: @JaneBozarth certainly, Learning in 3D: A New Dimension in Enterprise Learning & Collaboration #lrnchat
8:48:11 pm spotlearning: Q0. I haven’t been on SL in so long I should be embarrassed. Didn’t do much when there either. #lrnchat
8:48:12 pm shapah: good point – also relationships, regardless of plane, require the same ingredients @Abhinava: dreams and imagination create VWs #lrnchat
8:48:13 pm jaycross: RT @kellygarber: Q1 – SL is like a journey to another planet. | | | And the denizens look very odd. #lrnchat
8:48:22 pm kanor74: @kasey428 Sorry u had poor exper. Come back and we can get you started on gr8 new adventure! #lrnchat
8:48:35 pm kkapp: #lrnchat exclusive look at new web site for book under development look at new web site http://www.learningin3d.moonfruit.com/
8:48:37 pm JaneBozarth: My experience is mostly in attending workshops in SL #lrnchat
8:48:54 pm jkunrein: late to the party but happy to be here… Judy Unrein, ID in KC #lrnchat
8:49:00 pm MariaOD: @kasey428 I was on SL and saw lots of “adult” related things. Left because of lack of activities and also hard to use #lrnchat
8:49:09 pm J_Schulz: Apparently I need to figure out how to upgrade my SL appearance. #lrnchat
8:49:10 pm hjarche: I have stayed away from SL but last night was told how well it can work to train front-line hospitality workers #lrnchat
8:49:43 pm sahana2802: Haven’t done too much in SL except roam around now and then. Going to explore it today post the #lrnchat session.
8:49:47 pm kanor74: Adult content now segregated to their own area. #lrnchat
8:49:48 pm kkapp: Q0 #lrnchat virtual worlds work best when there is a reason &purpose to visit informal learning can occur but for 1st experience, have goal
8:49:52 pm Ginaschreck: #lrnchat Virtual worlds are destination & event driven – have a place to go or learing event to attend & its GREAT! without it can be weird
8:49:53 pm JaneBozarth: Karl Kapp’s new book w Tony O’Driscoll: RT @kkapp: “Learning in 3D: A New Dimension in Enterprise Learning & Collaboration” #lrnchat
8:49:57 pm Quinnovator: despite downside of current VW use (ppt presos; NSFW behavior), see huge upside oppt’y for formal & informal learning #lrnchat
8:50:01 pm MikeAbrams: SL has two worlds business/Education and entertainment. The borders are slowly being built to separate the two. Slow going. #lrnchat
8:50:09 pm kasey428: @kanor74 Make it intuitive. I don’t want to take days to figure it out. A clear how-to. #lrnchat
8:50:12 pm hjarche: If I was in SL I could have hair ;-) #lrnchat
8:50:14 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth trying to kill the resale value? #lrnchat
8:50:15 pm Mary_a_Myers: q1) i’ve spent minimal time in a virtual world…mainly due to time. signing up again now…iris magnifico #lrnchat
8:50:40 pm JoelFoner: When you’re in a meeting in a vw, you get a strong feeling of “being there” with the other ppl that goes past text chat or voice. #lrnchat
8:50:41 pm marciamarcia: @hjarche Have an example of org using SL to train front line hospitality workers? #lrnchat
8:50:43 pm JaneBozarth: RT @Ginaschreck: #lrnchat Virtual worlds are destination & event driven – have a place to go or learing event to attend
8:50:56 pm sahana2802: RT @JaneBozarth Karl Kapp’s new bk w Tony O’Driscoll: “Learning in 3D: A New Dimension in Enterprise Learning & Collaboration” #lrnchat
8:50:57 pm kkapp: #lrnchat let’s not forget many new “corporate” focused virtual worlds also available
8:51:01 pm urbie: @SueSchnorr #lrnchat tried it at a certain bank a couple of years ago. didn’t go over. that’s why i decided to strike out on my own..
8:51:02 pm KoreenOlbrish: SL is a pretty horrible intro to virtual worlds for a lot of people. Its too bad thats the only platform most people try out. #lrnchat
8:51:07 pm JaneBozarth: @Ginaschreck Yes that was my prob for a long time — I would go in to SL but then not know what to do #lrnchat
8:51:07 pm MariaOD: RT @hjarche: If I was in SL I could have hair ;-) <<lol #lrnchat
8:51:08 pm gwoodill: @SueSchnorr Our book has about 7-8 case studies of corporate training in SL. #lrnchat
8:51:17 pm Mary_a_Myers: i’ve seen great examples of usage esp for healthcare; hospital set ups, etc. #lrnchat
8:51:27 pm MikeAbrams: A challenge with Virtual worlds is the perception they will be too hard to navigate. Any new application takes time. #lrnchat
8:51:36 pm kkapp: @hjarche Yeah, I’ve got lots of hair in SL, trying to export to RL #lrnchat
8:51:36 pm shantarohse: RT @Ginaschreck: Virtual worlds are destination & event driven…without it can be weird. #lrnchat
8:51:44 pm teachernz: Following some new people in #lrnchat
8:51:47 pm hjarche: @marciamarcia not me, but can try to connect of you want details #lrnchat
8:51:51 pm marciamarcia: RT @JoelFoner When in a meeting in a vw, you get a strong feeling of “being there” w/ other ppl that goes past text chat or voice. #lrnchat
8:51:51 pm odguru: RT@Ginaschreck: #lrnchat Virtual worlds r destination & event driven – have a place to go or learing event to attend. same w/communities
8:51:58 pm reward75: I loved SL, made a few close friend there, I just didn’t have the time to continue #lrnchat
8:52:01 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator Don’t make me get the groupies. #lrnchat
8:52:06 pm Quinnovator: @hjarche hair? You can have wings! Horns! A tail! (I see a theme developing ;) #lrnchat
8:52:09 pm Mary_a_Myers: @KoreenOlbrish so what would you recommend starting with? i am pretty new to VWs. #lrnchat
8:52:10 pm chambo_online: My students often can’t find the “assignments” button, not sure they’d stick around to figure out SL #lrnchat
8:52:12 pm jaycross: vw? My first thought: what does Volkswagen have to do with this? (Sorry, my wife’s father worked at the factor in Wolfsburg.) #lrnchat
8:52:14 pm kellygarber: @JaneBozarth @Ginaschreck Wasn’t it like that with Twitter at first? Got here but didn’t know what to do? #lrnchat
8:52:21 pm MariaOD: RT @shantarohse: RT @Ginaschreck: Virtual worlds are destination & event driven…without it can be weird. #lrnchat
8:52:24 pm hybridkris: @kkapp Let me know how that works out for you. #lrnchat
8:52:33 pm hjarche: @kkapp isn’t there an export hair to RL button? #lrnchat
8:52:36 pm Ginaschreck: If you want to see live feed of the group in SL check this out #lrnchat http://bit.ly/5hPGAt
8:52:38 pm Quinnovator: @kkapp right, Second Life isn’t the only VW platform #lrnchat
8:52:44 pm J_Schulz: @KoreenOlbrish But you’re sleeping in SL! What kind of intro is that?? :-) #lrnchat
8:52:49 pm JaneBozarth: RT @KoreenOlbrish: SL pretty horrible intro to virtual worlds for lots of people.. too bad thats the only platform most people try #lrnchat
8:52:51 pm jkunrein: @Mary_a_Myers i’ve also seen some good examples in health care — latest one was training case mgrs to do home safety evaluations #lrnchat
8:52:54 pm MariaOD: We should take #lrnchat to SL!!! #lrnchat
8:52:56 pm jaycross: …factory… #lrnchat
8:52:58 pm allisunelearns: Seems like the future is development in the intersection of virtual worlds & augmented reality. #lrnchat
8:53:09 pm jkmind: #lrnchat I thnk somthing like twitter which is more intuitive is catching on faster as a lrning tool that SL. I jumped on lrncht but not SL
8:53:11 pm hybridkris: @KoreenOlbrish What VW’s do you recommend people try out? #lrnchat
8:53:19 pm JoelFoner: I’ve had ppl say “video is better”, but then work across time zones, and getting “ok for a webcam” at odd hours gets old :) #lrnchat
8:53:26 pm gminks: ok, they killed my avatar because my card got changed (bank reissued cards). I just hate SL. there I’ve said it :) #lrnchat
8:53:32 pm Quinnovator: RT @Ginaschreck: #lrnchat Virtual worlds are destination & event driven – have a place to go or learing event to attend
8:53:35 pm kasey428: RT @allisunelearns: Seems like the future is development in the intersection of virtual worlds & augmented reality. #lrnchat
8:53:41 pm shapah: @KoreenOlbrish good point – i’ve gathered that metaplace is friendlier for the average bear: http://bit.ly/7Ulgey #lrnchat
8:53:43 pm shantarohse: @reward75 How much time does SL “take” #lrnchat
8:53:43 pm JaneBozarth: @kellygarber Not like it was w/ SL, and I could at least look 4 friends and watch them… #lrnchat
8:53:47 pm KoreenOlbrish: @MariaOD we’re in there, just hard to navigate both SL and tweetchat :) #lrnchat
8:54:04 pm gwoodill: Q1 – U of Kansas School of Nursing has great simulation in SL. #lrnchat
8:54:09 pm jkmind: RT @kellygarber: @JaneBozarth @Ginaschreck Wasn’t it like that with Twitter at first? Got here but didn’t know what to do? #lrnchat
8:54:10 pm sahana2802: RT @kkapp #lrnchat let’s not forget many new “corporate” focused virtual worlds also available. Our org has also created an “SL space”.
8:54:13 pm ThomasStone: Those r good, hotel staff training 2 RT @Mary_a_Myers: i’ve seen great examples of usage esp for healthcare; hospital set ups, etc. #lrnchat
8:54:19 pm jaycross: @Quinnovator I just invited Claudia Linden to join us. Can you ping Joe Miller? #lrnchat
8:54:23 pm kkapp: @KoreenOlbrish No kidding #lrnchat
8:54:25 pm jsuzcampos: Can someone please explain the difference between SL and VW? (I have a lot to learn on this topic!). #lrnchat
8:54:28 pm JoelFoner: @KoreenOlbrish I think it’s only a difficult intro if unguided. We’ve brought lots of people in for events and had them say “wow”. #lrnchat
8:54:41 pm gminks: I had a paid acct, tons and tons of stuff including wonder woman outfit, and it all got deleted. I am not happy w/ SL service… #lrnchat
8:54:43 pm urbie: @KoreenOlbrish #lrnchat – it has a very low barrier to entry – brain-dead simple to use. other vr’s i’ve looked at hurt..
8:54:46 pm hjarche: RT @gminks: ok, they killed my avatar because my card got changed (bank reissued cards). I just hate SL. there Ive said it :) #lrnchat
8:54:47 pm MariaOD: @KoreenOlbrish what is the surl #lrnchat
8:54:49 pm minutebio: RT @jkunrein: @Mary_a_Myers ive also seen some examples in health care –EMTs and rescue workers have used too #lrnchat
8:54:54 pm odguru: @allisunelearns – Yes hearing a lot about augmented reality lately. #lrnchat
8:54:57 pm paulswansen: RT @gwoodill: Q1 – U of Kansas School of Nursing has great simulation in SL. #lrnchat
8:54:59 pm marciamarcia: @KoreenOlbrish So are you tweeting from w/in SL or have both running side by sideish? #lrnchat
8:55:06 pm Ginaschreck: Im excited about getting going in Reaction Grid-more PG rated – lots of educators there and bringing students – #lrnchat
8:55:12 pm shantarohse: @KoreenOlbrish I continue to marvel at your many concurrent skills :-) #lrnchat
8:55:14 pm Mary_a_Myers: @jsuzcampos second life is one virtual world platform. #lrnchat
8:55:17 pm KoreenOlbrish: @hybridkris i think most of the other VWs are easier to navigate…I like Protosphere for biz (high end), VenueGen (low cost) #lrnchat
8:55:18 pm MikeAbrams: @ErickTaft In SecondLife, yes. We are gathered and dancing around while typing in #lrnchat.
8:55:18 pm kellygarber: @JaneBozarth right, but with SL-you get to run around and bump into ppl while you try to figure out how to walk and fly! :) #lrnchat
8:55:24 pm sahana2802: I am not quite sure what to do once I am in SL altho I do have an avatar…and “it” is young and svelte and all things I am not. :) #lrnchat
8:55:31 pm kkapp: #lrnchat VW allow for a feeling of “being” there. research indicates people behave in VW like they do in RL, social space, reactions
8:55:34 pm SueSchnorr: @gwoodill book sounds interesting; pls give title – I’m intersted in case studies of corporate training in SL. #lrnchat
8:55:38 pm kasey428: @gminks I am not moved to take on an alternate persona for some reason. It is a bit disturbing to see how people want to be in VW. #lrnchat
8:55:40 pm JaneBozarth: @jkmind No. #lrnchat
8:55:40 pm Quinnovator: at least a field trip RT @MariaOD: We should take #lrnchat to SL!!!
8:55:50 pm KoreenOlbrish: @marciamarcia side by sideish–not too easy ;) #lrnchat
8:55:54 pm ChristyATucker: Second Life is overwhelming without a guide/mentor and some initial structured activities #lrnchat
8:55:57 pm Quinnovator: or blend RT @allisunelearns: Seems like the future is development in the intersection of virtual worlds & augmented reality. #lrnchat
8:56:00 pm hjarche: barrier to twitter much lower than SL – am I wrong? #lrnchat
8:56:05 pm shantarohse: There are many good SL examples in healthcare. I wonder why that is. #lrnchat
8:56:21 pm Mary_a_Myers: @kellygarber @janebozarth i’ve spent lots of time typing at the wall too :) #lrnchat
8:56:24 pm KoreenOlbrish: @shantarohse LOL, i’m not too “active” in SL right now tho :) #lrnchat
8:56:29 pm gminks: I advised against using SL because the platform wasn’t stable when we tested it #lrnchat
8:56:33 pm jsuzcampos: Thank you @Mary_a_Myers for the explanation “second life is one virtual world platform” (I had no idea!) #lrnchat
8:56:41 pm jaycross: RT @ChristyATucker: Second Life is overwhelming without a guide/mentor and some initial structured activities #lrnchat
8:56:46 pm joshcav: @gminks A wonder woman outfit.. deleted! No way… I can see how you would be turned off by SL #lrnchat
8:56:48 pm sahana2802: RT @kkapp #lrnchat VW allow for a feeling of “being” there.research indicates people behave in VW like they do in RL,social space, reactions
8:56:49 pm MariaOD: I cannot figure out how to put my undergarment on! Dang! Do I need to pay? #lrnchat
8:56:51 pm jkunrein: biggest prob i have w/ SL is my avatar’s clothes are slower to load than my avatar’s body #lrnchat
8:56:58 pm gminks: @kasey428 I looked like me. But I had a WW outfit. Which is alot like me. LOL #lrnchat
8:57:06 pm allisunelearns: @shantarohse I find healthcare to be ahead of other industries in much of eLearning in general, especially nursing #lrnchat
8:57:08 pm marciamarcia: RT @sahana2802 Not quite sure what to do once in SL altho I have an avatar & “it” is young and svelte and all things I am not. :) #lrnchat
8:57:10 pm jmarrapodi: Yay! Back from the freebie Nutcracker performance at the library in time to join the chat. Hi from Jean Marrapodi in Providence, RI #lrnchat
8:57:15 pm JaneBozarth: Yes. RT @hjarche: barrier to twitter much lower than SL – am I wrong? #lrnchat
8:57:18 pm JoelFoner: @hjarche agreed – barrier lower – different advantages. twitter touches everything incl txt on phones. sl is best for other things #lrnchat
8:57:22 pm reward75: @shantarohse As much as you want, but it’s easy to get involved in things. Group meetings, hanging w/ friends. Home life suffered #lrnchat
8:57:26 pm odguru: Would be an interesting study to look at VW personas in comparison to their creators. #lrnchat
8:57:36 pm oxala75: ok, wuddimiss? #lrnchat
8:57:40 pm DavidAKnopf: RT @ChristyATucker: Second Life is overwhelming without a guide/mentor and some initial structured activities | Like First Life! #lrnchat
8:57:45 pm kellygarber: @Mary_a_Myers hahaha – I have a knack for walking into concrete and getting stuck #lrnchat
8:57:48 pm MikeAbrams: she is dancing around to Thriller at the moment with @Ginaschreck @KoreenOlbrish in SL: @shantarohse #lrnchat
8:58:07 pm gwoodill: @SueSchnorr Training & Collaboration w/ Virtual Worlds: How to Create Cost-Saving, Efficient and Engaging Programs McGraw-Hill #lrnchat
8:58:08 pm ThomasStone: @JoelFoner I suspect longterm, for mtgs, video will win out (eg Cisco telepresence), with option of static image if in pajamas #lrnchat
8:58:15 pm urbie: #lrnchat any one know of research on SL in education training? i’m interested in how avatar appearance gates learning
8:58:17 pm KoreenOlbrish: @MariaOD http://bit.ly/6aINpd here we are ;) #lrnchat
8:58:18 pm marciamarcia: WTH? RT @jkunrein Biggest prob i have w/ SL is my avatar’s clothes are slower to load than my avatar’s body #lrnchat
8:58:28 pm kanor74: We are all dancing in SL NOW! #lrnchat
8:58:30 pm hjarche: @JoelFoner thx Joel! I’ve stayed away fm SL as clients just aren’t interested #lrnchat
8:58:34 pm gminks: are ppl in SL right now? slurl plz? #lrnchat
8:58:34 pm chambo_online: Can any VW be accessed on mobile? I tweet, check LMS, etc. from my fone. #lrnchat
8:58:40 pm MariaOD: @jmarrapodi i paid 115 to see it Sat. Lucky you! #lrnchat
8:58:42 pm sahana2802: RT @JaneBozarth Yes. RT @hjarche: barrier to twitter much lower than SL – am I wrong? #lrnchat I have not yet been able to connect to SL.
8:58:57 pm jmarrapodi: @sahana2802 Svelte is a state of mind, dearie. #lrnchat
8:59:06 pm shantarohse: @reward75 OK be frank. On an addiction, how does SL compare to twitter? #lrnchat
8:59:10 pm gwoodill: @kasey428 I took on an alternative persona when I spent a year in France. Every environment does that to you. #lrnchat
8:59:11 pm chambo_online: @urbie Chris Dede is doing science ed research #lrnchat
8:59:14 pm reward75: @marciamarcia That’s a whole other issue with VWs, how to represent urself, can be good and bad at the same time #lrnchat
8:59:23 pm Ginaschreck: #lrnchat we are all doing the THRILLER dance here in SL! Sorry we got distracted :)
8:59:38 pm jmarrapodi: @MariaOD It was pretty good too. New school getting PR and showing of their kids’ talents. #lrnchat
8:59:49 pm kasey428: What subjects are best for VW? Certainly not an accounting or analytics. Group design projects? Science subject? #lrnchat
9:00:03 pm MikeAbrams: @gminks http://slurl.com/secondlife/MSIT/220/147/34 #lrnchat
9:00:03 pm hybridkris: @chambo_online There is a project underway to bring SL to the iPhone. #lrnchat
9:00:03 pm JoelFoner: @hjarche direct experience changes that belief pretty quickly for most. Many pre-decide based on assumptions. #lrnchat
9:00:11 pm marciamarcia: @urbie I’ve been talking with @moehlert a bunch about that this week. He says the opposite of gate. Opens. #lrnchat
9:00:14 pm JaneBozarth: Also RT @gwoodill:Training & Collaboration w/ Virtual Worlds: How to Create Cost-Saving, Efficient & Engaging Programs McGraw-Hill #lrnchat
9:00:28 pm jmarrapodi: RT @ChristyATucker: Second Life is overwhelming without a guide/mentor and some initial structured activities | Like First Life! #lrnchat
9:00:59 pm sahana2802: RT @JaneBozarth RT @gwoodill:Training & Collaboration w/ VWs: How to Create Cost-Saving, Efficient & Engaging Programs McGraw-Hill #lrnchat
9:00:59 pm gwoodill: @shantarohse There are also lots of games in healthcare. I think its because healthcare is expensive – trying to cut costs. #lrnchat
9:01:00 pm hjarche: @JoelFoner still gotta go where the money is :-( #lrnchat
9:01:02 pm hybridkris: @chambo_online Also, there have been a number of MMO’s that have released mobile tie-ins. #lrnchat
9:01:04 pm SueSchnorr: I’m on it! @gwoodill Training & Collaboration w/ Virtual Worlds: How to Create Cost-Saving, Efficient&Engaging Programs McGrawHill #lrnchat
9:01:08 pm Quinnovator: @jaycross I’ve pinged him by email, not online #lrnchat
9:01:12 pm jaycross: RT @hybridkris: @chambo_online There is a project underway to bring SL to the iPhone.||| Good luck with the bandwidth of the iPhone #lrnchat
9:01:13 pm rbacal: @Ginaschreck Just dropping in. THAT is amazing (SL), and you know I’m not easily impressed by social media. #lrnchat Sorry, gotta run.
9:01:14 pm KoreenOlbrish: @gminks SL slurl: http://bit.ly/6aINpd #lrnchat
9:01:21 pm reward75: @shantarohse For me Twitter is easier cuz u can catch up later, SL is more real time, if you’re not there u feel like u miss a lot #lrnchat
9:01:21 pm spotlearning: @hybridkris Oh great, now the guy in the SUV beside me can call a virtual doctor when he runs me off the road! #lrnchat
9:01:30 pm ThomasStone: @kasey428 Agreed re: alternate persona. I’m not oblivious to the reasons for this, but I think that won’t catch on in biz. #lrnchat
9:01:30 pm Quinnovator: @chambo_online believe protosphere has social network accessible inworld or from desktop, not yet via mobile #lrnchat
9:01:34 pm marciamarcia: Well said! RT @JoelFoner Direct experience changes that belief pretty quickly for most. Many pre-decide based on assumptions. #lrnchat
9:01:40 pm sahana2802: RT @jmarrapodi RT @ChristyATucker: Second Life is overwhelming without a guide/mentor and some initial structured activities | Yes! #lrnchat
9:01:41 pm szpak: @marciamarcia What to do in SL? Get to know real people, “from the inside out”, and explore embodiment and presence, yours & theirs #lrnchat
9:01:44 pm jkunrein: oh at&t will loooove that :P RT @hybridkris: @chambo_online There is a project underway to bring SL to the iPhone. #lrnchat
9:01:45 pm minutebio: RT @kasey428: What subjects are best for VW? Soft skills. Sales…I believe Harvard Law even has a court room for role-play #lrnchat
9:01:46 pm Ginaschreck: @shantarohse Anything that is FUN and offers chance to learn and share with others is addicting in my book #lrnchat
9:01:57 pm KoreenOlbrish: I’m kinda amused that I’m dancing to Thriller with a bunch of my #lrnchat peeps. awesome. #lrnchat
9:02:13 pm odguru: In most VWs there is no expectation that URr avatar IS u, just that it REPRESENTS u.Unlike Facebook where it seems creepy to lie… #lrnchat
9:02:18 pm shantarohse: Someone tweeted SL is NOT a good intro. Then what is(for the timid)? #lrnchat
9:02:24 pm allisunelearns: @kasey428 Engineering has been taught w/ SL & a paper written on it https://www.sloodle.org/blog/?p=157 #lrnchat
9:02:29 pm ThomasStone: 100 times lower… multiple barriers lower! RT @hjarche: barrier to twitter much lower than SL – am I wrong? #lrnchat
9:02:38 pm JoelFoner: Just talked to @ginaschreck. She I will put together a guided first experience, discussion, and tour sometime soon. #lrnchat
9:02:47 pm MariaOD: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Im kinda amused that Im dancing to Thriller with a bunch of my #lrnchat peeps. awesome.<<lol #lrnchat
9:02:51 pm shantarohse: RT @reward75: For me Twitter is easier cuz u can catch up later, SL is more real time, if youre not there u feel like u miss a lot #lrnchat
9:02:57 pm jmarrapodi: Looks like Firefox doesn’t like Second Life? Can’t open @ginaschreck’s link there. Says it doesn’t know the program. Odd. #lrnchat
9:03:00 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q2a) which virtual environment (aug.reality, virt.worlds)do you think’s more ready for use in workplace training? #lrnchat
9:03:05 pm everyselearning: I’ve been dancing to Thriller on SL #lrnchat
9:03:08 pm marciamarcia: @szpak Welcome, Mark, where the heck did you come from? First @Ginaschreck, then you? What a day, what an evening! #lrnchat
9:03:14 pm teachernz: dancing to thriller in SL :-) #lrnchat
9:03:15 pm gwoodill: @jkunrein Males have a problem with their bodies in SL – no penis. You have to buy one…. #lrnchat
9:03:18 pm KoreenOlbrish: Once you get past the novelty of it, people and relationships are the reasons to go back into virtual worlds #lrnchat
9:03:18 pm sahana2802: RT @allisunelearns @kasey428 Engineering has been taught w/ SL & a paper written on it https://www.sloodle.org/blog/?p=157 #lrnchat
9:03:36 pm dwilkinsnh: I’ve tried SL on two occasions. Eventually wrote a couple of posts on it: http://bit.ly/8QIVVg and http://bit.ly/7Hl2eA #lrnchat
9:03:39 pm Mary_a_Myers: i’ve seen examples of events with “classroom” set ups too in SL. but i always wondered what the advantage was over webex etc. #lrnchat
9:03:45 pm kanor74: SL is used for training in education, medicine, engineering, architecture, etc. #lrnchat
9:03:46 pm ThomasStone: @shantarohse Because it gives a safe environment to learn from failure — healthcare training nec. very safety conscious. #lrnchat
9:03:50 pm jmarrapodi: @szpak Do you find people are more “real” in SL? Teens create alternate personas. #lrnchat
9:03:51 pm JoelFoner: One way to handle the realtime and catch-up is to record video stream @shantarohse and @reward75. #lrnchat
9:03:57 pm wadatripp: #lrnchat jay cross told me you were all discussing immersive lrng tonight. Out at dinner but wanted to at least say hello!
9:03:58 pm Quinnovator: Q2a) actually think VW closer to being ready for primetime (mobile device layers/compass etc still not ubiquitous) #lrnchat
9:04:01 pm hybridkris: @spotlearning Kind of like the girls in Aus who got caught in the sewer used a phone to post a msg on FB rather than call police. #lrnchat
9:04:01 pm jmarrapodi: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Once you get past the novelty of it, people and relationships are the reasons to go back into virtual worlds #lrnchat
9:04:04 pm MikeAbrams: @gwoodill umm..that isn’t a required purchase for training. lol #lrnchat
9:04:04 pm jkmind: @JoelFoner #lrnchat let me know when. I’d like to join
9:04:08 pm shantarohse: RT @JoelFoner: Just talked to @ginaschreck. She I will put together a guided first experience, discussion, and tour sometime soon. #lrnchat
9:04:25 pm joe_deegan: Definitely great for soft skills and sales RT @minutebio @kasey428: What subjects are best for VW? Soft skills. Sales… #lrnchat
9:04:28 pm sahana2802: RT @KoreenOlbrish Once you get past the novelty of it, people and relationships are the reasons to go back into virtual worlds #lrnchat
9:04:30 pm rbacal: @Ginaschreck Umm. you were calling me, but I’m lost. I’m watchin on joelfone. #lrnchat
9:04:33 pm reward75: @jmarrapodi U can’t access SL via a browser, u have to use an SL viewer – a program to access the platform #lrnchat
9:04:37 pm dwilkinsnh: Was big fan of ProtonMedia for awhile, but they were being shopped last I knew (2 yrs ago). Anyone know if they are still around? #lrnchat
9:04:38 pm jmarrapodi: @KoreenOlbrish Guess that relationship thing is what social media is all about , huh? #lrnchat
9:04:45 pm ChristyATucker: RT @jmarrapodi: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Once you get past the novelty of it, people and relationships are the reasons to go back to VWs #lrnchat
9:04:49 pm Quinnovator: true for twitter too, no? RT @KoreenOlbrish: Once past novelty, people and relationships are reasons to go back into VWs #lrnchat
9:05:05 pm jbrogley: @teachernz Where are you man?! #lrnchat
9:05:05 pm kkapp: Q2A try http://protonmedia.com/trial-download/ or venugen to start for a corporate intro of a VW #lrnchat
9:05:07 pm jkunrein: @gwoodill female SL avatars aren’t really bio-correct either. :P #lrnchat
9:05:08 pm kanor74: the psychology in SL is interesting. Avatars are truly extension in trms of energy, feelings, etc. #lrnchat
9:05:39 pm jmarrapodi: @teachernz Great icon! #lrnchat
9:05:41 pm kanor74: Meeting ‘f2f’ in SL is very important dimention over web conf. #lrnchat
9:05:43 pm urbie: @KoreenOlbrish #lrnchat anecdotal observation or evidence?
9:05:50 pm MariaOD: RT @Quinnovator: true for twitter too, no? RT @KoreenOlbrish:Once past novelty, people and relationships are reasons to go back2VWs #lrnchat
9:05:56 pm jmarrapodi: @kanor74 Love the Santa hat! #lrnchat
9:06:03 pm teachernz: @Quinnovator I guess second life looks like the most ready, but there are others out there, not mature yet #lrnchat
9:06:15 pm hybridkris: Q2: It interests me that folks have looked at WoW for training entrepreneurial skills. #lrnchat
9:06:18 pm wadatripp: #lrnchat Lots of stuff about Immersive learning and the emergence of the “Immernet” on my blog: http://wadatripp.wordpress.com
9:06:19 pm KoreenOlbrish: i almost just bumped into @hybridkris in SL. Sorry! (definitely extension of self) #lrnchat
9:06:29 pm joe_deegan: Second Life lost me at setting up the Avatar. Needs to be easier to get jump started. #lrnchat
9:06:31 pm kkapp: @dwilkinsnh Around stil not being shopped, just integrated with SharePoint, doing neat stuff #lrnchat http://protonmedia.com/trial-download/
9:06:31 pm chambo_online: My learning curve for Twitter – 30 seconds – Still can’t figure out how to dance the Thriller tonight. #lrnchat
9:06:31 pm JoelFoner: SL is not a replacement for F2F, or for voice only, or text chat, but does fill a good space between them. #lrnchat
9:06:37 pm gminks: ok I’m in sl #lrnchat
9:06:39 pm dwilkinsnh: I have to say though I can’t see the majority of learners in a virt world; most still don’t know basic soc media like Wikis & tags #lrnchat
9:06:44 pm jmarrapodi: RT @kanor74: the psychology in SL is interesting. Avatars are truly extension in trms of energy, feelings, etc. #lrnchat
9:06:47 pm gminks: so hating my new avatarar #lrnchat
9:06:50 pm gwoodill: @jkunrein SL is interesting for gender switching. Try being a man for awhile. You’ll see how difficult it really is…:-) #lrnchat
9:06:52 pm kasey428: As a govt. contractor who develops materials in financial mgt. VWs really would be a stretch delivery method. Can’t see it. #lrnchat
9:06:59 pm hybridkris: Q2: Also of note, Aeroflot uses SL to teach English language for aviation. They have AI to teach English. #lrnchat
9:07:06 pm hjarche: @marciamarcia @szpak OK – I’ve met Mark but I’ve talked much more to Marcia (virtually) – weird world #lrnchat
9:07:09 pm Quinnovator: agreed RT @teachernz: @Quinnovator I guess second life looks like the most ready, but there are others out there, not mature yet #lrnchat
9:07:13 pm KoreenOlbrish: @urbie actually, my personal experience…spent 6 months in world and researched what drew people back (and me too!) #lrnchat
9:07:21 pm chambo_online: Now my avatar is dancing and I didn’t do it…longer learning curve in SL for sure. #lrnchat
9:07:25 pm JoelFoner: It allows construction of real simulations – interactive environments that are scripted to respond and teach. Great hospital sims. #lrnchat
9:07:30 pm Ginaschreck: @kanor74 I agree – “Face2FAce” is important benefit in virtual worlds-even if face is avatar face #lrnchat
9:07:35 pm allisunelearns: Has there been any development in blending games & virtual worlds? #lrnchat
9:07:47 pm jmarrapodi: @teachernz If avitars are extensions, do U think people “brand” them like the concepts of “personal branding” -design the persona? #lrnchat
9:07:56 pm sahana2802: @gminks So am I… What do I do now that I am in SL? #lrnchat
9:07:58 pm gminks: I can see it for some types of training #lrnchat
9:07:59 pm odguru: RT: @dwilkinsnh … can’t see the majority of learners in a virt world; most still don’t know basic soc media like Wikis & tags #lrnchat
9:07:59 pm jkunrein: @gwoodill or, for that matter, species-switching… #lrnchat
9:08:05 pm MikeAbrams: http://twitpic.com/tyjbo – Picture of the crowd in Second Life participating in #lrnchat
9:08:20 pm dwilkinsnh: @kkapp Well if ProtonMedia is still around, I’d give them a real look – got a real deep dive a couple of yrs ago, very impressive #lrnchat
9:08:23 pm JoelFoner: Many folks report that once you “do” have a f2f relationship with someone, the connection in a VW is much stronger. #lrnchat
9:08:31 pm gwoodill: @kasey428 Wells Fargo had a presence in SL for awhile – to teach teens about managing money. #lrnchat
9:08:38 pm Ginaschreck: @gminks You will get it jazzed up! I will give you some great clothes and stuff :) #lrnchat
9:08:41 pm jmarrapodi: RT @JoelFoner: SL is not a replacement for F2F, or for voice only, or text chat, but does fill a good space between them. #lrnchat
9:08:43 pm Quinnovator: RT @dwilkinsnh: have to say can’t see majority of learners in a VW; most still don’t know basic soc media like Wikis & tags #lrnchat
9:08:47 pm jkmind: #lrnchat i stl thnk use the right tool for the right content. don’t just do it for the coolness
9:08:51 pm kanor74: Branding..absolutely! I am branded as Emilia Cornwall across my digital footprint #lrnchat
9:09:03 pm Ginaschreck: @jmarrapodi It requires you to set up your fee acct and download program – takes abt 10 min :( #lrnchat
9:09:18 pm gminks: @sahana2802 dance like a zombie apparently #lrnchat
9:09:22 pm jkunrein: @hybridkris it interests me that people use WoW for anything other than entertainment. i play but i don’t consider it a VW. #lrnchat
9:09:32 pm kkapp: #lrnchat F2F not always possible, VWs can add extra learning & collaboration between F2F events.augment not replace existing learning events
9:09:41 pm hybridkris: @allisunelearns There are groups that use MMO’s for learning. I think that would qualify. #lrnchat
9:09:43 pm Ginaschreck: @rbacal Which avatar is YOU? I can’t beleive you are here??!! #lrnchat
9:09:44 pm gminks: RT @jkmind: #lrnchat i stl thnk use the right tool for the right content. dont just do it for the coolness #lrnchat
9:09:47 pm Mary_a_Myers: it’s been diffficult to even get across the value of twitter…but never say never! #lrnchat
9:10:01 pm teachernz: @jmarrapodi i just tried to make me look as much like me as possible. turned out younger and thinner #lrnchat
9:10:02 pm KoreenOlbrish: i actually don’t think SoMe is a stepping stone to virtual worlds…completely different user experience and immersive quality #lrnchat
9:10:22 pm urbie: @SueSchnorr #lrnchat iboggling to me how the training venues in SL look like places in hotels where workshops are held. they don’t get it
9:10:26 pm gminks: RT @Ginaschreck thats my issue. I HAD cool clothes. I got screwed by SL’s horrible support #lrnchat
9:10:33 pm HalellyAzulay: Very cool bunch! RT @MikeAbrams: http://twitpic.com/tyjbo – Picture of the crowd in Second Life participating in #lrnchat
9:10:34 pm jaycross: RT @MikeAbrams: http://twitpic.com/tyjbo – Picture of the crowd in Second Life participating in ||| I love it! Luigi Pirandello #lrnchat
9:10:35 pm chambo_online: I don’t see tech newbies loving anything that has multiple menus for directions – it’s gotta be intuitive. #lrnchat
9:10:39 pm odguru: RT @jkmind: #lrnchat i stl thnk use the right tool for the right content. dont just do it for the coolness
9:10:43 pm kanor74: Cost savings to meet in SL…no travel, hotels, meals, etc. #lrnchat
9:10:47 pm Quinnovator: find interesting similarities between ARG and VWs: both are augmenting world just whether virtual or real #lrnchat
9:10:49 pm teachernz: @Quinnovator and others are open… can host yourself if inclined to or able to #lrnchat
9:10:59 pm kasey428: I would like to learn more about VWs for my own benefit. Just can’t see it for my clients and the subject matter we focus on. #lrnchat
9:10:59 pm dwilkinsnh: I think biggest use of virt world is stuff that benefits from sim of virtual objects like insurance adjusting; what else? #lrnchat
9:11:05 pm jaycross: RT @KoreenOlbrish: i actually dont think SoMe is a stepping stone to virtual worlds…completely different user experience #lrnchat
9:11:09 pm allisunelearns: RT @KoreenOlbrish: i actually dont think SoMe is a stepping stone to virtual worlds…different user experience & immersive quality #lrnchat
9:11:11 pm MariaOD: RT@jkmind: #lrnchat i stl thnk use the rght tool for the right cntent.dnt just do it for thecoolness<yes but dnt underestimate PLAY #lrnchat
9:11:12 pm sahana2802: RT @kkapp #lrnchat F2F not always possible, VWs add extra learning & collaboration btn F2F events, augment not replace existing lrng events
9:11:17 pm chambo_online: Right tool for the right content, but also right tool for the learners #lrnchat
9:11:17 pm Quinnovator: still, think learning design principles for Real world hold for VWs too #lrnchat
9:11:19 pm MikeAbrams: virtual worlds have their place, just like any other training delivery mechanism. Used properly, powerful. Overused…pointless #lrnchat
9:11:22 pm reward75: @dwilkinsnh Each SoMe method is independent of each other, I used and understood SL b4 I ever used a wiki #lrnchat
9:11:23 pm KoreenOlbrish: in other words, just because you don’t “get” Twitter/wikis/blogs doesn’t mean you won’t “get” virtual worlds #lrnchat
9:11:29 pm jkmind: RT @Mary_a_Myers: it’s been diffficult to even get across the value of twitter…but never say never! #lrnchat
9:11:30 pm kanor74: My grad student had no exper. in SL…after 5 sessions, loved it! #lrnchat
9:11:31 pm Ginaschreck: @gminks BOO- great clothes and shoes definitely make the avatar! :D #lrnchat
9:11:33 pm joshcav: Has anyone been involved with a scripted environment roll-out in SL? How much did it cost? #lrnchat
9:11:37 pm JoelFoner: One way to think about vw’s for bus and edu is that if you are trying for social interaction and vid doesn’t work, good option. #lrnchat
9:11:40 pm Quinnovator: @wadatripp you’re not reading my blog, steadily being corrupted ;) #lrnchat
9:11:41 pm Ginaschreck: @rbacal too funny! #lrnchat
9:11:45 pm urbie: @KoreenOlbrish #lrnchat can you share your research or is it proprietary?
9:11:47 pm minutebio: RT @Mary_a_Myers: its been difflt to even get across the value of twitter.. –best way is to get them to use. Need 2 experience it #lrnchat
9:11:55 pm hybridkris: @jkunrein There is a great book about it that was published by MIT Press. I don’t have the title handy though. #lrnchat
9:11:59 pm RobRobertson: Agreed! RT @KoreenOlbrish dont think SoMe is stepping stone to virtual world completely different user experience & immersive qlty #lrnchat
9:12:07 pm kkapp: #lrnchat remember when we had to teach that underlined words on the web were links & opened new windows…now its natural VWs headed there
9:12:10 pm shantarohse: RT @KoreenOlbrish: … SoMe is [not] a stepping stone to virtual worlds…completely different user experience & immersive quality #lrnchat
9:12:13 pm chambo_online: @KoreenOlbrish Reverse is true as well. #lrnchat
9:12:16 pm Quinnovator: @wadatripp still some ‘issues’ however (cf #Lrnchat dialog of ‘overhead)
9:12:19 pm jaycross: RT @kanor74: Cost savings to meet in SL…no travel, hotels, meals, etc. ||| Same deal with telephones, web ex, etc. #lrnchat
9:12:26 pm KAKoehler: RT @Quinnovator: still, think learning design principles for Real world hold for VWs too #lrnchat : agreed
9:12:41 pm gwoodill: @MikeAbrams Where is the #lrnchat group gathering in SL? #lrnchat
9:12:46 pm dwilkinsnh: I wonder though too if maybe I’m not a good exemplar. I mean, I don’t even like to take the time to create a Mii on my Wii… ; ) #lrnchat
9:12:56 pm nancyrubin: Arrived late…ready to tweet though #lrnchat
9:13:01 pm urbie: #lrnchat the problem with relying on VW for learning is fidelity. how do you integrate look and feel with performance?
9:13:08 pm KoreenOlbrish: @urbie I actually use it in most of my presentations and as the basis for my design #lrnchat
9:13:13 pm hybridkris: Q2B – We have a program now that is a good candidate. It requires an airframe that there are very few of. VW’s would be great. #lrnchat
9:13:18 pm kanor74: @jaycross not same since SL adds the f2f dimension #lrnchat
9:13:20 pm odguru: For introduction of both VM & SoMe generational differences are a wild factor, ie. 4 a diverse sales force or engineering co. #lrnchat
9:13:22 pm sahana2802: RT @gwoodill @MikeAbrams Where is the #lrnchat group gathering in SL? #lrnchat
9:13:24 pm Ginaschreck: @marciamarcia mention virtual worlds & we come out of the woodwork! :) #lrnchat
9:13:28 pm JoelFoner: VW also encourages new design approaches. Can design in more interactivity such as 3D active displays, connect to web db’s for data #lrnchat
9:13:30 pm jkunrein: @hybridkris i should say WoW is not a VW in the same sense as SL… it’s a game in which you have 0 ability to affect environment. #lrnchat
9:13:58 pm john_larkin: RT @gminks: RT @jkmind: #lrnchat i stl thnk use the right tool for the right content. dont just do it for the coolness #lrnchat
9:14:02 pm MitchSquires: Love it! RT @teachernz: dancing to thriller in SL :-) #lrnchat
9:14:03 pm nancyrubin: This was a good post about the use of avatars – http://archiespeaksout.blogspot.com/2009/09/characters-in-elearning.html #lrnchat
9:14:11 pm Quinnovator: real unique ‘affordance’ (*drink*) of VWs: collaborative model building, but don’t see a lot of it yet #lrnchat
9:14:12 pm ThomasStone: RT @dwilkinsnh:I can’t see the majority of learners in a virt world; most still don’t know basic soc media like Wikis & tags #lrnchat
9:14:16 pm dwilkinsnh: @reward75 I think that’s legit, but investment to create a presence and learn to navigate a VW is way higher than a wiki #lrnchat
9:14:17 pm bschlenker: @hybridkris got any links for the WoW stuff? Need a good reason to keep my subscription ;-) #lrnchat
9:14:19 pm jaycross: RT @kanor74: @jaycross not same since SL adds the f2f dimension ||| Like a Skype video call? #lrnchat
9:14:20 pm kasey428: RT @dwilkinsnh: I wonder though too if maybe Im not a good exemplar. …I dont even like to take time to create a Mii on my Wii) #lrnchat
9:14:31 pm MikeAbrams: http://slurl.com/secondlife/MSIT/220/147/34 @sahana2802 @gwoodill #lrnchat group gathering in SL #lrnchat
9:14:36 pm gwoodill: @joshcav @Alex_Heiphetz does scripted rollouts. He’s lurking here because posting is not working for him. #lrnchat
9:14:42 pm nancyrubin: Personally, I have found scenarios developed in SL and VLs easier to use with audiences than actually taking them into environment #lrnchat
9:14:51 pm chambo_online: @dwilkinsnh Wii is good to bring up, no real learning curve to “play” most games there. Intuitive “play” breeds success of VW #lrnchat
9:14:56 pm jaycross: RT @Quinnovator: real unique affordance (*drink*) of VWs: collaborative model building, but dont see a lot of it yet #lrnchat
9:15:06 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q2b) What parts of workplace training are ripe for augmented reality, virtual environments? Why? #lrnchat
9:15:10 pm JoelFoner: @ThomasStone Have you tried a vw before for this sort of use? Different sorts of uses.. Have seen new users adapt easily. #lrnchat
9:15:22 pm marciamarcia: @dwilkinsnh I’m with you about the mii wii thing. #lrnchat
9:15:23 pm jkmind: #lrnchat I’m dsng trning for navy. seems good way to trn so new sailors are more ready the moment they board ship
9:15:34 pm KoreenOlbrish: when designing for virtual worlds, i like to think “how could you best teach ppl if money/resources/geography was not an issue?” #lrnchat
9:15:37 pm shantarohse: @JoelFoner The idea of co-constructing 3D objects struck me as a unique learning design #lrnchat
9:15:41 pm kanor74: @jaycross Skype only offers video 1 to 1. SL groups! #lrnchat
9:15:46 pm kkapp: @jkunrein #lrnchat, I view WoW as game/VW & SL & others as metaverse-a platform where learning can be built, like LMS is empty til added to
9:15:46 pm Mary_a_Myers: @nancyrubin so you develop and then share the experience? #lrnchat
9:15:53 pm reward75: @dwilkinsnh I’m also not a good example, I learned how to play chess b4 I learned to play checkers :-) #lrnchat
9:15:55 pm nancyrubin: Q2 – Any real world situation that can be modeled with characters in situations #lrnchat
9:16:16 pm nancyrubin: @Mary_a_Myers exactly #lrnchat
9:16:21 pm odguru: @chambo_online True – Wii has conquered all generations. My husband is a gerontoloigist & there are Wiis o’plenty in long term care #lrnchat
9:16:22 pm jkmind: #lrnchat would be interested if we could interact in vw with wii. Now that I would check out. Should be getting wii sometime this year
9:16:23 pm chambo_online: Q2b – any kind of customer simulation #lrnchat
9:16:23 pm Quinnovator: Q2b) collaborative model building, 3D social learning (and scale is fascinating opportunity not available in real life) #lrnchat
9:16:27 pm ThomasStone: @urbie But that’s b/c most formal training doesn’t require a VW env. to deliver it — overkill. Inappropriate use of latest tech. #lrnchat
9:16:41 pm JaneBozarth: Q2b) What parts of workplace training are ripe for augmented reality, virtual environments? Why? #lrnchat
9:16:46 pm jkunrein: @kkapp good distinction, agreed. #lrnchat
9:16:49 pm bschlenker: @KoreenOlbrish When can I get into 2L from my iPhone? #lrnchat
9:16:59 pm Quinnovator: Q2b) contextualized performance: mapping model to real world, detecting contextual clues/problems, #lrnchat
9:16:59 pm JoelFoner: Medical training simulations have been amazing – one taught emergency room process. AI chars critique process mistakes and grade. #lrnchat
9:17:04 pm Mary_a_Myers: @Quinnovator q2B anytime you require a safe practice environment…or another party to interact with (sales, patients, etc.) #lrnchat
9:17:09 pm nancyrubin: I hope my friend Chris (who has all the experience) is here and that he chimes in tonight #lrnchat
9:17:12 pm MariaOD: RT @bschlenker: @KoreenOlbrish When can I get into 2L from my iPhone? #lrnchat
9:17:13 pm jaycross: RT @kanor74: @jaycross Skype only offers video 1 to 1. SL groups! || True, true. Unless you run it in an Adobe Connect session. (6) #lrnchat
9:17:17 pm sahana2802: RT @KoreenOlbrish when designing for VWs, i like to think “how cld u best teach ppl if money/resources/geography was not an issue?” #lrnchat
9:17:17 pm urbie: @bschlenker #lrnchat there’s an app for that
9:17:30 pm ThomasStone: exactly! VW often overkill RT @odguru: RT @jkmind: #lrnchat i stl thnk use the rt tool for the rt content. dont just do it for the coolness
9:17:37 pm JaneBozarth: @bschlenker Wait till ATT finds out you want SL on your iPhone. They don’t like runnin’ Shazam… #lrnchat
9:17:44 pm JoelFoner: @schlenker @koreenolbrish – I have heard that there is an iPhone app, but haven’t tried it. #lrnchat
9:17:48 pm SueSchnorr: just getting back/so may be out of context but oovoo.com offers more than video 1-1 kanor74 @jaycross. SL groups! #lrnchat -
9:17:55 pm KoreenOlbrish: @bschlenker actually you already can :) #lrnchat
9:17:56 pm espnguyen: I’ve been wanting to use something like Roller Coaster Tycoon as a VW where we can teach basic finance skills among other things #lrnchat
9:17:59 pm nancyrubin: Scenario based learning is great for VW simulations and virtual characters #lrnchat
9:18:05 pm shantarohse: My SL login from 2005 still works! But I can’t remember if I am dressed for the occasion ;-) #lrnchat
9:18:06 pm hybridkris: @bschlenker That’s on the way…Just not exactly how you picture it. #lrnchat
9:18:08 pm Mary_a_Myers: @nancyrubin that’s interesting b/c i’ve taken way more out of observing then taking part up to this point anyway (so far :) ) #lrnchat
9:18:10 pm urbie: @bschlenker #lrnchat look for Touch Life app in the app store
9:18:17 pm Quinnovator: @KoreenOlbrish exactly: what if you had ‘magic’! (Old design trick) #lrnchat
9:18:18 pm allisunelearns: Q2b) Training to work with things, such as parts of computer as you are taking it apart #lrnchat
9:18:32 pm nancyrubin: Good intro to scenario based learning http://www.slideshare.net/kernlearningsolutions/scenario-based-learning-2103566 #lrnchat
9:18:34 pm MariaOD: RT @bschlenker: @KoreenOlbrish When can I get into 2L from my iPhone?<<Open Sim? #lrnchat
9:18:36 pm JoelFoner: RT @nancyrubin Scenario based learning is great for VW simulations and virtual characters #lrnchat
9:18:43 pm reward75: Q2b While I was on SL, I kept trying to get my org to use it for onboarding #lrnchat
9:18:53 pm kkapp: #lrnchat short video showing difference between 2D and 3D learning for same topic
9:19:09 pm Ginaschreck: @jaycross I recently did a meeting with OOVOO which is like Brady Bunch – 6 people lined up – cool #lrnchat
9:19:16 pm gwoodill: WoW book MIT: Digital Culture, Play, & Identity http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Culture-Play-Identity-Warcraft/dp/0262033704 #lrnchat
9:19:26 pm RobRobertson: @shantarohse 2005! impressive! #lrnchat
9:19:41 pm ThomasStone: @KoreenOlbrish fair enough, but I think dave’s pt was that ‘getting’ wikis / tags is usually easier, and yet most in corp. struggle #lrnchat
9:19:52 pm SueSchnorr: Cool! Good 4 u! @urbie #lrnchat tried it at a certain bank a couple of years ago. didn’t go over. that’s why i decided strike out on my own
9:20:09 pm nancyrubin: students love to use avatar software, too. give them a chance to play with oddcast or xtranormal and they will love it! #lrnchat
9:20:13 pm hybridkris: RT @gwoodill: WoW book MIT: Digital Culture, Play, & Identity http://tinyurl.com/ycfxetb #lrnchat <—-THAT’S IT!
9:20:16 pm kanor74: Web conf. has its place; SL offers so many things to see and do! #lrnchat
9:20:17 pm jkunrein: links or it didn’t happen RT @kkapp: #lrnchat short video showing difference between 2D and 3D learning for same topic #lrnchat
9:20:24 pm jaycross: RT @Ginaschreck: @jaycross I did a meeting with OOVOO which is like Brady Bunch 6 people lined up ||| I’ll try ooVoo again. Thx #lrnchat
9:20:38 pm urbie: @SueSchnorr #lrnchat – it’s the phd pursuit that makes me ask so many questions and for the evidence..
9:20:52 pm JoelFoner: This is a hard one to explain, but once used to it, a distributed team meeting in SL “feels like being there” pretty strongly. #lrnchat
9:21:02 pm MariaOD: How’s the Sparkle app for SL? #lrnchat
9:21:11 pm minutebio: RT @reward75: While I was on SL, I kept trying to gt org 2 use for onbrding –gr8t idea & chance to intro new emps to staff & mgt #lrnchat
9:21:13 pm Quinnovator: @Mary_a_Myers yes, but not necessarily cost-effective, unless distributed team, no? (set up costs vs VW develop) #lrnchat
9:21:18 pm marciamarcia: @Ginaschreck Did someone say Brady Bunch? Funny how we go there instead of Rubix cube or even tic tac toe. #lrnchat
9:21:23 pm chambo_online: Difficult to backchannel on SL and stay up with #lrnchat
9:21:28 pm nancyrubin: have students create a virtual field trip in a virtual environment – VFTs are a great tool for engaging students #lrnchat
9:21:34 pm JoelFoner: @jaycross did you find oovoo to be stable? i tried it a few weeks ago and had repeated buggy behavior. maybe fixed now. #lrnchat
9:21:40 pm KoreenOlbrish: i like virtual worlds for “practice,” especially of anything that requires more than one person #lrnchat
9:21:45 pm dwilkinsnh: @chambo_online Yeah, been thinking a lot about casual experiences like Flip, Wii, casual gaming, wonder if its a trend on its own #lrnchat
9:21:45 pm ChristyATucker: Research in Second Life presentation http://bit.ly/7aUJUe by @lyrlobo #lrnchat
9:21:51 pm gwoodill: @JaneBozarth I think augmented reality (AR) is a different experience from virtual worlds. AR is taking off with mobile. #lrnchat
9:22:11 pm kanor74: Cultural, historical, artistic, business, educational sims — something for every1 #lrnchat
9:22:21 pm marciamarcia: RT @KoreenOlbrish I like virtual worlds for “practice,” especially of anything that requires more than one person #lrnchat
9:22:40 pm nancyrubin: Virtual Worlds are great as long as the technology does not DETRACT from the experience – need one or more people just to guide #lrnchat
9:22:43 pm ThomasStone: me three! RT @marciamarcia: @dwilkinsnh I’m with you about the mii wii thing. #lrnchat
9:22:45 pm dwilkinsnh: @ThomasStone You said it better than me… ; ) #lrnchat
9:22:45 pm jaycross: RT @JoelFoner: @jaycross did you find oovoo to be stable? i tried it a few weeks ago and had repeated buggy ||| same here, Joel #lrnchat
9:22:55 pm hybridkris: @KoreenOlbrish I have a great example of that for C-130 cargo drops in a VW. A bit cheaper than doing the real thing. #lrnchat
9:22:58 pm JaneBozarth: @gwoodill Sorry did you mean that for me? #lrnchat
9:23:01 pm Ginaschreck: explainng value of learng in virtual envirnmnts is like trying to explain how great chocolate is to someone who has never had it #lrnchat
9:23:02 pm hjarche: RT @gwoodill: @JaneBozarth I think augmented reality (AR) is a different experience from virtual worlds. AR is taking off w/ mobile #lrnchat
9:23:03 pm JoelFoner: @gwoodill agreed – seems that AR fills a different need – projecting computer and web resources into the real world. #lrnchat
9:23:05 pm reward75: @minutebio It wld have been perfect since my org is national, onboard everyone at once and deliver a consistent message #lrnchat
9:23:07 pm Quinnovator: keep hearing this RT @JoelFoner: hard to explain, but once used to it, distributed team meeting in SL “feels like being there” #lrnchat
9:23:18 pm chambo_online: @dwilkinsnh Been trying to design a course with this in mind – intuitive course progression rather than written directions in LMS #lrnchat
9:23:29 pm urbie: @KoreenOlbrish #lrnchat i like it better than Skype for conference calls – that’s way underutilized Cybergrrl Oh [SL avie] has a cool show
9:23:31 pm nancyrubin: What about geocaching (or is that another discussion)? Being used for entertainment and for teaching geography, etc. #lrnchat
9:23:54 pm Quinnovator: @kkapp and others, any more science to the ephemeral ‘presence’ difference people feel? #lrnchat
9:24:04 pm tonnet: #lrnchat
9:24:20 pm chambo_online: Difference between AR and VW for the novices plz.?? #lrnchat
9:24:26 pm KoreenOlbrish: Ok, I’m gonna admit it…I don’t “get” Augmented Reality for learning. Yet. Might have to immerse myself in it… #lrnchat
9:24:28 pm Mary_a_Myers: @Quinnovator i say that in the context of dreaming. I have no idea what costs are for VWs. #lrnchat
9:24:48 pm gminks: @jaycross what is oovoo?? by that I mean – it looks like skype? #lrnchat
9:24:48 pm Ginaschreck: @marciamarcia I have always wanted to find “an ALICE” and so I hoped using oovoo would bring her into my life :) #lrnchat
9:25:07 pm reward75: @Quinnovator It’s the immersion that makes it feel like ur there, like a really good book or movie can do #lrnchat
9:25:08 pm hybridkris: @KoreenOlbrish Look for the BMW concept design on AR for training/support. #lrnchat
9:25:09 pm nancyrubin: I worked at university that had island in SL. Lots of issues getting students to the island, dressed properly, in time for events #lrnchat
9:25:21 pm SueSchnorr: I use oovoo often; have gd exp. sometime iffy if 5-6 people, usually fine. RT @JoelFoner @jaycross did u find oovoo to be stable? #lrnchat
9:25:01 pm kasey428: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Ok, Im gonna admit it…I dont “get” Augmented Reality for learning. Yet. Might have to immerse myself in it… #lrnchat
9:25:23 pm urbie: @teachernz #lrnchat – true; ease of use a serious barrier to entry; where’s roi in people skinning their knees trying to get it to work?
9:25:25 pm kanor74: I did an adventure race in SL w/VA educators. Had to find ans. to ?’s over 3 sims. #lrnchat
9:25:26 pm Quinnovator: @gwoodill yes AR is mobile, but is augmenting a world, just like VWs, so can be some conceptual similarity #lrnchat
9:25:30 pm Ginaschreck: @nancyrubin I love the ideas of mixing in different technologies and tools – make ANY learning event more fun #lrnchat
9:25:30 pm JoelFoner: @Quinnovator – just talked to someone in the field yesterday about that. Suspect it would be proven in MRI studies – similar to #lrnchat
9:25:46 pm marciamarcia: @KoreenOlbrish So is it that Augmented Reality isn’t social or that it’s not IYHO helping people learn? #lrnchat
9:25:51 pm jkmind: #lrnchat geocaching could be a good tool for certain content out of the classroom. Team building exercise?
9:25:53 pm allisunelearns: I’m excited abt the instant, on-the-spot recall of augmented reality. Play a video clip demoing what you need to do as doing it. #lrnchat
9:25:53 pm JoelFoner: @quinnovator suspension of disbelief in movies, or empathy in f2f settings. Visual cues that brain interprets either way. #lrnchat
9:26:04 pm MikeAbrams: recently we ran a teambuilding event in SL. very simply re-creation of a physical ropes course activity I did with @possibiliteams #lrnchat
9:26:09 pm Mary_a_Myers: VWs you are immersed but with Aug Rea your field of vision (mainly) is enhanced, or augmented. #lrnchat
9:26:12 pm joshcav: How do you evaluate a SL learning expereince? #lrnchat
9:26:17 pm Ginaschreck: Hide clues in virt world- on blogs in wikis – let them go and FIND in real event thru geolocat etc. MIX IT UP! #lrnchat
9:26:19 pm MikeAbrams: the results turned out very well. view online here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kM6WEh5iQk #lrnchat
9:26:27 pm gwoodill: @nancyrubin Geocaching is like Augmented Reality – extra info is added to a real environment. Isn’t everything virtual in the end? #lrnchat
9:26:33 pm kanor74: Over 600 univ./colleges have a presence in SL. #lrnchat
9:26:36 pm Quinnovator: @chambo_online AR=Augmented Reality: mobile devices adds to contextualized real world VW is augmented non-reality #lrnchat
9:26:41 pm JoelFoner: Thanks @SueSchnorr, had similar experience (Oovoo) stable with 2-3, bit shaky as add more. Assumedly that will improve. #lrnchat
9:26:50 pm nancyrubin: Virtual situations being used A LOT in military training and medical fields #lrnchat
9:27:03 pm KoreenOlbrish: @chambo_online AR: augmented overlay on real objects. VW: immersive “world,” where you are represented by an avatar #lrnchat
9:27:06 pm allisunelearns: With AR, can have the recipe steps in front of me as I’m doing the cooking. No more paper. #lrnchat
9:27:18 pm gwoodill: @JaneBozarth response to your question re AR and Virtual worlds. #lrnchat
9:27:24 pm JoelFoner: Eval SL learning exp should be same as eval other – learning objectives… achieved? @joshcav #lrnchat
9:27:24 pm kkapp: #lrnchat VW research resources http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGtzYiEOwEw&feature=player_embedded
9:27:25 pm JaneBozarth: Q3) how do u think learning design needs 2 adapt/change to utilize capabilities of virtual environments? Where 2 start? #lrnchat
9:27:29 pm dwilkinsnh: @chambo_online Yeah I think sometimes perfect & professional = inaccessible; whereas casual = human = accessible #lrnchat
9:27:30 pm Quinnovator: @reward75 I hear that, but I’d love a more psychological explanation (I can live with, but harder to ’sell’) #lrnchat
9:27:38 pm kanor74: US Military has a presence in SL, too #lrnchat
9:27:39 pm J_Schulz: @KoreenOlbrish Based on what I’ve seen, I would think AR would make for good performance support. #lrnchat
9:27:42 pm nancyrubin: @gwoodill Seems to be picking up interest. I read an article in the newspaper just this week. Easy to do now with GPS in phones. #lrnchat
9:27:59 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Darn. Looks like I missed a ton of good stuff
9:28:02 pm allisunelearns: Oh, and when I think of AR, I start thinking really futuristic ala MIT http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2009/02/ted-digital-six/ #lrnchat
9:28:28 pm JoelFoner: @quinnovator, researching the immersion piece as part of a white paper / set of posts, hope to have more soon. #lrnchat
9:28:37 pm odguru: odguru RT@nancyrubin … issues getting students to the island, dressed properly, in time for events #lrnchat < Very life like. #lrnchat
9:28:41 pm shantarohse: Something to chew on… RT @gwoodill …. Isnt everything virtual in the end? #lrnchat
9:28:46 pm gwoodill: @chambo_online AR adds a layer to the real world, VWs are all unreal. #lrnchat
9:28:48 pm Quinnovator: Q3) how do u think learning design needs to adapt/change to utilize the capabilities of virtual environments? Where to start? #lrnchat
9:29:06 pm MariaOD: Been messing around installing SL!!! Missed #lrnchat! Next time I’ll be ready!!!
9:29:31 pm urbie: #lrnchat the thing about species switching is so right-on; talk about immersive and fun. i am researching avie customization n efficacy
9:29:41 pm jkmind: Q3 #lrnchat like all design, capabilities should be driven by the content. Not content being driven by technology. Tht’s why Im leary of sl
9:29:41 pm odguru: @jkmind In a manner of speaking. It can be practiced when the awareness of absence and understanding of principle is there. #lrnchat
9:29:46 pm kkapp: #lrnchat some advantages of 3D for learning http://karlkapp.blogspot.com/2009/02/advantages-of-3d-for-learning.html
9:29:55 pm kanor74: For me, SL is an extension of 1st Life. I work in SL everyday. #lrnchat
9:29:57 pm nancyrubin: Q3) Don’t forget basic ID principles when dealing with media – value-add is my litmus test – does media add value to learning #lrnchat
9:30:10 pm Quinnovator: Q3) needs to think more spatial and social, more engagement (but principles same as I always argue for) #lrnchat
9:30:12 pm JaneBozarth: Great now I’m being inundated w SL spammers #lrnchat
9:30:16 pm ChristyATucker: Q3) We have give up the idea of classrooms for learning in VW. Why sit in rows when you can fly? #lrnchat
9:30:18 pm JoelFoner: @quinnovator – do not start by assuming creation of a “classroom” in vw… “live there” for a bit, then think about how to leverage #lrnchat
9:30:23 pm Quinnovator: @JoelFoner keep me ‘post’ed #lrnchat
9:30:39 pm minutebio: RT @odguru: RT@nancyrubin .. issues getting studtns to island, dressed proper, in time for event –Sorry, stuck in low bandwidth #lrnchat
9:30:48 pm JaneBozarth: @jkmind Yep. It’s a potential variation on the “Let’s start a blog!!” syndrome #lrnchat
9:30:49 pm hybridkris: @KoreenOlbrish Here is the BMW AR concept video. http://tinyurl.com/c6c97u #lrnchat
9:30:50 pm KoreenOlbrish: ok, loving reading the transcript in tweetchat but listening to the discussion in SL. Wish I could get voice working! #lrnchat
9:30:52 pm gwoodill: Q3 – definitely virtual worlds should be experiential learning. Not fact, texts or lectures. #lrnchat
9:30:53 pm Ginaschreck: @Quinnovator I think that is greater challenge- students are ready – it is the teachers/trainers/ etc who have some work to do #lrnchat
9:31:08 pm Ginaschreck: RT @kkapp: #lrnchat some advantages of 3D for learning http://karlkapp.blogspot.com/2009/02/advantages-of-3d-for-learning.html
9:31:10 pm everyselearning: Has anyone got any examples of how this might be used in software training? #lrnchat
9:31:12 pm JoelFoner: Most edu builds start off with “build a lecture hall” – but – for instance can have students build their own env and tools #lrnchat
9:31:21 pm kkapp: #lrnchat teaching higher order learning in VWs http://karlkapp.blogspot.com/2008/10/teaching-higher-order-skills-in-virtual.html
9:31:21 pm kasey428: RT @kanor74: US Military has a presence in SL, too||I have seen some military demos. Interesting. #lrnchat
9:31:29 pm dennisschleiche: Imagine AR to see in a classroom the “by student” information, like timecode of their last handraise #lrnchat
9:31:31 pm MikeAbrams: also classroom can be a journey through SL, not just a place. many places many themes @JoelFoner @quinnovator #lrnchat
9:31:33 pm marciamarcia: We have give up the idea of classrooms for learning in vws. Why sit in rows when you can fly? -@ChristyATucker #lrnchat
9:31:34 pm JoelFoner: Assignments can include students building 3D scripted “answers” to problem set questions. #lrnchat
9:31:42 pm MariaOD: RT @kasey428: RT @kanor74: US Military has a presence in SL, too||I have seen some military demos. Interesting. #lrnchat
9:31:44 pm KoreenOlbrish: @hybridkris gracias :) #lrnchat
9:31:44 pm chambo_online: RT @GinaschreckI think that is greater challenge- students are ready – it is the teachers/trainers/ etc who have some work to do #lrnchat
9:31:49 pm minutebio: RT @Quinnovator: Q3 how do u think learning design needs 3 adapt/change 2 utilize capabilities of virtual environs? #lrnchat
9:31:54 pm Quinnovator: tho’ you can make close to real world RT @gwoodill: @chambo_online AR adds a layer to the real world, VWs are all unreal. #lrnchat
9:32:09 pm JaneBozarth: RT @ginaschreck I think that is greater challenge- students are ready – it is the teachers/trainers/ etc who have some work to do #lrnchat
9:32:18 pm joshcav: Q3: It’s any reality you want to create… I guess scenario based training would be better than a stand-up presentation. #lrnchat
9:32:29 pm Quinnovator: @JoelFoner well, yeah, I come from a ‘game’ design approach: make a meaningful experience, don’t replicate classroom #lrnchat
9:32:58 pm JaneBozarth: @gwoodill There has never been a technology invented that someone hasn’t figured out how to turn into a lecture podium #lrnchat
9:33:00 pm gwoodill: @everyselearning Yes, Microsoft uses SL for support for developers. #lrnchat
9:33:04 pm dwilkinsnh: Wonder if casual-ness should be a principle of VW learning? Not sure how you maintain formality; seems counter to the point. #lrnchat
9:33:06 pm RobRobertson: I think there is value in “standard” classrooms in SL for noobs. Let them have an environ they know while they adjust to VW #lrnchat
9:33:32 pm sahana2802: HATE IT when laptop crashes in the middle of #lrnchat. :(
9:33:32 pm jmarrapodi: RT @marciamarcia: We have give up the idea of classrooms for learning in vws. Why sit in rows when you can fly? -@ChristyATucker #lrnchat
9:33:35 pm chambo_online: VW=simulated environment, AR=add on to the real environment – have I got it? #lrnchat
9:33:39 pm Quinnovator: RT @Ginaschreck @Quinnovator think that is greater challenge-students are ready- it is teachers/trainers/ etc who have work to do #lrnchat
9:33:54 pm everyselearning: @gwoodill I’d love to see an example #lrnchat
9:34:11 pm KoreenOlbrish: against all of my design experience…by all means, start w a classroom, if that’s what ppl are comfy with. Just don’t stop there. #lrnchat
9:34:13 pm Ginaschreck: Q3- YES take learners on “Field Trips!” Make each event a learning ADVENTURE! #lrnchat
9:34:16 pm minutebio: RT @joshcav: Q3: Its any reality you want to create… I guess scenario based training –role-play between students. #lrnchat
9:34:19 pm chambo_online: RT @JaneBozarth: There has never been a technology invented that someone hasnt figured out how to turn into a lecture podium–>true #lrnchat
9:34:22 pm allisunelearns: RT @JaneBozarth There has never been a technology invented that someone hasnt figured out how to turn into a lecture podium #lrnchat
9:34:28 pm reward75: I agree, right method for the right learning RT @gwoodill: Q3 – virtual worlds = experiential learning. Not texts or lectures. #lrnchat
9:34:32 pm everyselearning: For instance, could you do a quiz in SL? #lrnchat
9:34:32 pm ThomasStone: Prediction: Once cisco/other Telepresence video takes off, then SL will not be considered much for mtgs or most formal learning #lrnchat
9:34:38 pm JoelFoner: Absolutely @robrobertson, our team starts with a “very normal room” or platform environment first, few distractions, then other… #lrnchat
9:34:59 pm Quinnovator: @dwilkinsnh don’t agree: saw great ‘formal’ example of insurance damage eval (contextual/3d) by insurance company #lrnchat
9:35:14 pm shantarohse: Familiarity offers comfort? RT @RobRobertson: I think there is value in “standard” classrooms in SL for noobs. #lrnchat
9:35:15 pm gwoodill: @everyselearning In our book – one of the case studies. #lrnchat
9:35:23 pm marciamarcia: @chambo_online That’s how I understand it too. VW=sim env, AR=add to real world. #lrnchat
9:35:24 pm JoelFoner: @koreenolbrish agreed as a stepping stone and to provide psychological transition, but huge $$ only on classrooms misses point. #lrnchat
9:35:29 pm urbie: @Ginaschreck #lrnchat handing off the customization [as much as possible] to the learner is definitely a thing to look at
9:35:30 pm ThomasStone: At that pt., SL/VW will still have a place = where safety of training env. or 3D environment is truly necessity = niche areas #lrnchat
9:35:32 pm nancyrubin: SL allows educators to take students to places they could never have gone before – including back in time to see historical places #lrnchat
9:35:35 pm Ginaschreck: @marciamarcia AMEN- Why build buildings with doors and walls for people to bump into in VWrlds- create a COOL learning environmt #lrnchat
9:35:35 pm jkunrein: RT @JaneBozarth: There has never been a technology invented that someone hasnt figured out how to turn into a lecture podium #lrnchat
9:35:39 pm Mary_a_Myers: um…where are you all again in SL? finally got my avatar and have logged in. #lrnchat
9:35:43 pm chambo_online: @KoreenOlbrish standard scaffolding – start simple and familiar, move to the complex and unfamiliar. #lrnchat
9:36:00 pm kkapp: #lrnchat think of a VW maturity model. Start with Classrooms (low) and end with actual work being done in the VW space (highest)
9:36:04 pm jmarrapodi: RT @kanor74: For me, SL is an extension of 1st Life. I work in SL everyday. {How?} #lrnchat
9:36:12 pm kanor74: @everyselearning Yes, all kinds to tools for quiz,test, creation of product. #lrnchat
9:36:16 pm nancyrubin: Example of army using immersive tech – http://minutebio.com/blog/2009/05/15/us-army-using-interactive-videos/ #lrnchat
9:36:30 pm Mary_a_Myers: so what is the cost of using something like SL for corp? #lrnchat
9:36:39 pm gwoodill: @everyselearning Better than a quiz – you can do a treasure hunt. Make assessment active! #lrnchat
9:36:41 pm jmarrapodi: RT @Ginaschreck: Q3- YES take learners on “Field Trips!” Make each event a learning ADVENTURE! [Second Life- love this idea!!!] #lrnchat
9:36:55 pm allisunelearns: @everyselearning You can take a Moodle quiz in SL with this integration http://slisweb.sjsu.edu/sl/index.php/Sloodle_Quiz_Chair #lrnchat
9:36:55 pm ThomasStone: I say this b/c most people in biz contexts will much prefer for mtg and most learning to interact with the real people, not avatars #lrnchat
9:37:05 pm kanor74: @jmarrapodi I teach grad students; run office for RL company. Meet clients, etc. #lrnchat
9:37:07 pm marciamarcia: Standard scaffolding: start simple and familiar, move to the complex and unfamiliar. -@chambo_online #lrnchat
9:37:28 pm jmarrapodi: RT @JaneBozarth: There has never been a technology invented that someone hasnt figured out how to turn into a lecture podium [ouch] #lrnchat
9:37:30 pm urbie: @shantarohse #lrnchat what makes you think that? it’s hard enough to engage; if they’re home it gets harder still
9:37:32 pm joshcav: @ThomasStone You mean when Telepresence becomes affordable to everyone..? #lrnchat
9:37:32 pm ThomasStone: And Cisco Telepresence is really powerful, and will only get better. (No, I don’t work for cisco. LOL) #lrnchat
9:37:34 pm nancyrubin: Easy to use avatar site – http://oddcast.com/ #lrnchat
9:37:39 pm kasey428: I would like go to a VW and actually learn rather than be lost. I need a VW buddy to hold my virtual hand & guide. #lrnchat
9:37:41 pm Quinnovator: VWs provide seamless environ to embed formal but scaffold informal as well #lrnchat
9:37:47 pm dwilkinsnh: @Quinnovator Fair enough; that’s one of my favorite use cases as well. Still I wonder if it feels as formal as F2F? #lrnchat
9:37:53 pm gwoodill: @ThomasStone Agreed. I’d prefer HD setup like Halo any day. Still expensive. #lrnchat
9:37:59 pm JaneBozarth: @jmarrapodi I think we should have @gminks’s graduation party in SL #lrnchat
9:38:10 pm nancyrubin: Have teachers build there own classrooms in SL – have actually seen this done as a lesson for ed students #lrnchat
9:38:13 pm sahana2802: RT @Quinnovator VWs provide seamless environ to embed formal but scaffold informal as well #lrnchat
9:38:20 pm kanor74: @kasey428 Friend me and I’ll help you. #lrnchat
9:38:27 pm ThomasStone: a good use! RT @nancyrubin: SL allows educators to take students to places they could never have gone before – inc back in time #lrnchat
9:38:27 pm JaneBozarth: WHY do a quiz? Ever? #lrnchat
9:38:36 pm dennisschleiche: But isn’t the simple and familiar for today’s learners actual VW? #lrnchat
9:38:37 pm nancyrubin: RT @JaneBozarth: @jmarrapodi I think we should have @gminkss graduation party in SL #lrnchat
9:38:37 pm Quinnovator: @kkapp can’t we skip the $%^&* classroom? Get them there, lead on a journey (cf @Ginaschreck), *engage* them! #lrnchat
9:38:38 pm jkmind: #lrnchat I dont see military using sl for sensitive trning though but would some of that trning less $ to build
9:38:39 pm gminks: @kasey428 that is my prob w VWs – having to manage the tech side so it doesn’t turn into a learner obstacle #lrnchat
9:38:44 pm chambo_online: @kasey428 I think that is how most newbies feel. Frustration could inhibit learning #lrnchat
9:38:49 pm Ginaschreck: Q3- If students find regular classroom lecture blah blah blah boring -doing that in virtual envir is still BORING! #lrnchat
9:38:57 pm JoelFoner: Also architects use SL for prototyping, let clients adjust things, try ideas. #lrnchat
9:38:58 pm gminks: screw that! I want IRL drinks!! :) RT @JaneBozarth: @jmarrapodi I think we should have @gminkss graduation party in SL #lrnchat
9:39:23 pm dwilkinsnh: @ThomasStone Agree completely. That’s why Clark’s reference of insurance adjusting is key — that’s the use case, not meetings #lrnchat
9:39:23 pm urbie: #lrnchat the public universities in texas are quite far along in implementing SL in higher-ed
9:39:26 pm jkmind: #lrnchat @JaneBozarth don’t call it a quiz. but there should be somekind of asesmnt
9:39:30 pm allisunelearns: @JaneBozarth @gminks and I can walk together with our special summa cum laude robes! #lrnchat
9:39:40 pm gminks: @Mary_a_Myers we had issues w firewall last time I looked into SL #lrnchat
9:39:42 pm ThomasStone: yes, exactly. it will happen. RT @joshcav: @ThomasStone You mean when Telepresence becomes affordable to everyone..? #lrnchat
9:39:51 pm kasey428: @kanor74 I did. #lrnchat
9:39:53 pm dwilkinsnh: RT @ThomasStone: SL/VW will still have a place = where safety of training env. or 3D environment is truly necessity = niche areas #lrnchat
9:40:10 pm JaneBozarth: @Ginaschreck Srsly. “Let’s make them go into SL, then they won’t notice we’re reading bulleted PPT slides to them. ” ? #lrnchat
9:40:31 pm KoreenOlbrish: one thing that holds true against all social media, including virtual worlds…i’ve never understood virtual drinks :) #lrnchat
9:40:39 pm Ginaschreck: Q3- @chambo_online REemember that same feeling applies when we are new to school or job- it just takes a gentle guiding hand to hlp #lrnchat
9:40:43 pm J_Schulz: @gwoodill I never thought I would see Halo and lrnchat used in the same tweet. Awesome! #lrnchat
9:40:53 pm JoelFoner: Something @GinaSchreck just said here… many (most?) kids are fast adapters to SL, often it’s “us” who have the big challenge. #lrnchat
9:40:56 pm nancyrubin: To develop virtual environments (in house) is expensive – requires lots of expertise that is often expensive talent #lrnchat
9:41:10 pm urbie: @KoreenOlbrish #lrnchat virtual comfort zone?
9:41:13 pm kkapp: @Quinnovator #lrnchat links how behavior in SL like RL http://karlkapp.blogspot.com/2009/05/you-are-your-avatar-your-avatar-is-you.html
9:41:29 pm MikeAbrams: *slurps his cocoa at @KoreenOlbrish and sticks out his tongue #lrnchat
9:41:35 pm kanor74: @kasey428 Oh, who are you in SL? #lrnchat
9:41:40 pm Quinnovator: @dwilkinsnh ah, back to the ephemeral ‘feeling’. And agree, but continuum (can be very engaged ‘classroom, just infrequent :o ) #lrnchat
9:41:40 pm ThomasStone: @dwilkinsnh exactly. Ins. adjusting, hotel staff training, health topics where safety an issue, nuclear-related stuff. LOL #lrnchat
9:41:59 pm kasey428: @gminks Technology should nvr interfere w/learning. Always enable learning & create space where people want to learn. #lrnchat
9:42:01 pm kkapp: @KoreenOlbrish #lrnchat Drinks are universal anywhere:) in RL or VW
9:42:08 pm JoelFoner: Re “safety” issue in VW’s – gone to a mall lately? Checked out what kids can get to with clicks on the web? *ready for firestorm* #lrnchat
9:42:13 pm chambo_online: @JoelFoner “kids” only make up a portion of online trainees/students. Many are older – less WoW player-types #lrnchat
9:42:20 pm joshcav: How do office politics effect virtual exchanges in SecondLife??? Also, would legal need to document these sessions. #lrnchat
9:42:25 pm nancyrubin: Do I see a lrnchat in SL in the near future? #lrnchat
9:42:27 pm MikeAbrams: brb. xmas carolers at my door in RL #lrnchat
9:43:09 pm marciamarcia: @jkmind Have started offering alt to quiz/assmnt thinking, bowling ally gutter analogy. Sometimes there are bounds. #lrnchat
9:43:09 pm kasey428: @kanor74 Bebe Audion #lrnchat
9:43:18 pm Quinnovator: RT @kkapp: @Quinnovator #lrnchat behavior in SL like RL http://bit.ly/4JOZqb
9:43:23 pm JoelFoner: @chambo_online – agreed not all, but experience with the concept of characters and vw’s is moving up the age curve. #lrnchat
9:43:29 pm KoreenOlbrish: @joshcav yes, office politics affect. but does legal document the RL water cooler? #lrnchat
9:43:31 pm kanor74: @MikeAbrams :-) #lrnchat
9:43:37 pm sahana2802: RT @kkapp @Quinnovator #lrnchat links how behavior in SL like RL: http://tiny.cc/a8QTZ
9:43:39 pm MariaOD: RT @nancyrubin: Do I see a lrnchat in SL in the near future? <vote! #lrnchat
9:43:42 pm ThomasStone: Longterm, for mtgs / most learning, SL fails my “Star Trek” test: Picard or Janeway wouldn’t use it over high-end video conf. #lrnchat
9:43:43 pm teachernz: @JoelFoner yeah, but virtual harm is so much more dangerouss ;-) #lrnchat
9:43:51 pm SueSchnorr: RT kasey428 @gminks Technology should nvr interfere w/learning. Always enable learning & create space where people want to learn. #lrnchat
9:44:02 pm urbie: @nancyrubin #lrnchat cool idea.. vw lrnchat
9:44:02 pm Ginaschreck: @nancyrubin I am rubbing the crystal ball right now and I see a SEcondLife #lrnchat in our future !
9:44:03 pm Quinnovator: @nancyrubin would rather see a #lrnchat SL tour than trying to run #lrnchat in SL (if you know what I mean)
9:44:15 pm jkunrein: how about a VW that’s easier to use? :) RT @nancyrubin: Do I see a lrnchat in SL in the near future? #lrnchat
9:44:24 pm chambo_online: @JoelFoner Agreed – I do have a mii ;-) #lrnchat
9:44:27 pm allisunelearns: @chambo_online That would depend on where you are…52% of Iranians under 20. #lrnchat
9:44:31 pm nancyrubin: @ThomasStone Beam me up! #lrnchat
9:44:48 pm sahana2802: RT @kkapp @Quinnovator #lrnchat links how behavior in SL like RL http://tiny.cc/amkWg
9:44:48 pm nancyrubin: @Quinnovator Actually I do, first hand. :-) #lrnchat
9:45:14 pm Mary_a_Myers: if #lrnchat moves to SL i will need some help getting there. haven’t moved past getting avatar in the last half an hour. I blame IE #lrnchat
9:45:18 pm Quinnovator: also framework for engaged learning! RT @simbeckhampson: @Quinnovator Train trainer in SL, adoption, access and motivation are key #lrnchat
9:45:27 pm reward75: In SL now (Reine Aeon) #lrnchat
9:45:34 pm ThomasStone: Btw, has Gartner ever issued an amended prediction regarding uptake in VW? Their prediction a few years ago was *insane*. #lrnchat
9:45:39 pm kkapp: @jkunrein I;ll volunteer ProtoSphere demo space in near future as a location #lrnchat (then I’ll verify with Ron)
9:46:04 pm dwilkinsnh: RT @nancyrubin: SL allows educators to take students to places they could never have gone before – including back in time #lrnchat
9:46:04 pm chambo_online: @allisunelearns depends on industry and organization as well – fastest growing group on Fbook=Women 30-55 #lrnchat
9:46:12 pm ThomasStone: agreed! RT @Quinnovator: @nancyrubin would rather see a #lrnchat SL tour than trying to run #lrnchat in SL (if you know what I mean)
9:46:33 pm nancyrubin: Went to conference recently online – think some of you were there – it was a pseudo SL environment – anyone know what it was? #lrnchat
9:46:52 pm kkapp: @ThomasStone That’s how they get press. Google VW Hype cycle and see some interesting results #lrnchat
9:46:56 pm dwilkinsnh: @ThomasStone As much as I respect Gartner and others, they are often wrong — remember LCMS? Another swing and a miss…. #lrnchat
9:47:04 pm odguru: @ThomasStone But old Wil Riker spent plenty of time on holodeck 9!! #lrnchat
9:47:11 pm kasey428: tweet posts not showing up in Tweetchat…again #lrnchat
9:47:14 pm JoelFoner: If you’d like a chance to experience “for real”, I run a wkly inworld global disc group – http://joelfoner.com/we-are-the-network/ #lrnchat
9:47:16 pm Quinnovator: @Mary_a_Myers yes, we’ll want folks to get avatars beforehand, @Ginaschreck had a useful link I think #lrnchat
9:47:21 pm nancyrubin: @chambo_online My people :-) #lrnchat
9:47:28 pm marciamarcia: @ThomasStone I’ve been seeking the analyst reports too. Welcome any you find. I’ll share what I find. #lrnchat
9:47:28 pm dennisschleiche: @ThomasStone Longterm, 4mtgs/most learning,SL fails my”Star Trek”test:Picard wouldn’t use it over high-end video conf. #lrnchat
9:47:34 pm shantarohse: @Mary_a_Myers I blame FF. I am getting an error message when I click teleport now. #lrnchat
9:47:43 pm jkmind: #lrnchat we should have demo sessions before we run lrnchat session in sl. I’d need help
9:48:13 pm kkapp: #lrnchat here is list of SL alternatives http://karlkapp.blogspot.com/2009/05/you-are-your-avatar-your-avatar-is-you.html
9:48:39 pm JaneBozarth: @Mary_a_Myers Remember that when you start thinking of using this w/ your workers. Need orientation/set up time + clear purpose #lrnchat
9:48:59 pm MikeAbrams: RT @kkapp: virtual world alternatives http://karlkapp.blogspot.com/2009/05/you-are-your-avatar-your-avatar-is-you.html #lrnchat
9:49:11 pm minutebio: RT @dwilkinsnh: RT @nancyrubin: SL allws eductrs 2 take students back in time /Gr8t way to lrn History. We could meet Julius Caesar #lrnchat
9:49:14 pm chambo_online: @dennisschleiche @ThomasStone Picard: “On screen!” #lrnchat
9:49:15 pm Mary_a_Myers: @shantarohse i had both browsers trying …had to reboot! #lrnchat
9:49:20 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @JaneBozarth Remember that when you start thinking of using this w/ your workers. Need orientation/set up time + clear purpose #lrnchat
9:49:25 pm kkapp: #lrnchat oops, no here is the link http://karlkapp.blogspot.com/2009/11/alternatives-to-second-life-continued.html
9:49:34 pm ThomasStone: @dwilkinsnh The thing is, many in L&D gobbled up the Gartner insanity, quoting in presos as if had a chance of becoming true. #lrnchat
9:49:54 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @kkapp: virtual world alternatives http://karlkapp.blogspot.com/2009/05/you-are-your-avatar-your-avatar-is-you.html #lrnchat
9:49:55 pm kkapp: @MikeAbrams #lrnchat, wrong lnk use this http://karlkapp.blogspot.com/2009/11/alternatives-to-second-life-continued.html
9:50:17 pm MikeAbrams: http://bit.ly/6QET7h RT @ErickTaft: @MikeAbrams How do I get to where you are at in SL ? #lrnchat
9:50:20 pm nancyrubin: First hand experience – not easy to develop – need to media department devoted to scenarios and VW development (and good writers!) #lrnchat
9:50:22 pm MariaOD: Cold must be coming down with something right in time for the weekend. Nite #lrnchat! #lrnchat
9:50:23 pm Mary_a_Myers: @JaneBozarth definitely #lrnchat
9:50:24 pm ThomasStone: @odguru yeah, but holodeck is *completely* different from SL. #lrnchat
9:50:36 pm urbie: @KoreenOlbrish #lrnchat and interactivity: the scripting and interpersonal kinds, too
9:50:51 pm gwoodill: What is a virtual world? A good book? See – Narrative as Virtual Reality – 2001 by M. Ryan. #lrnchat
9:50:52 pm kanor74: I visited 1870’s NM and AZ a few weeks ago! Also Sistine Chapel on Vassar Is. Renaissance period events. #lrnchat
9:51:03 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links welcome. What can we help you with? #lrnchat
9:51:08 pm chambo_online: What about a hybrid VW – simpler simulation/shorter learning curve – used for specific task, but not entire training? #lrnchat
9:51:19 pm Ginaschreck: If you want to setup avatar & prep B4 hand heres starting point :) It should drop you into my safe campus :) #lrnchat http://bit.ly/6aINpd
9:51:48 pm jkunrein: RT @kkapp: #lrnchat virtual worlds other than sl: http://karlkapp.blogspot.com/2009/11/alternatives-to-second-life-continued.html #lrnchat
9:51:54 pm kasey428: @kanor74 friend me #lrnchat
9:52:02 pm JoelFoner: @nancyrubin agreed big build can be complex. Funny though how much value ppl can get from simple environment. Bld over time. #lrnchat
9:52:10 pm Mary_a_Myers: @ThomasStone i place the holodeck onside with AR. but your entire world is augmented…and you are completely immersed. can’t wait! #lrnchat
9:52:16 pm nancyrubin: @chambo_online Very effective. You can film short scenarios with mult chars in SL and show to learners – then they interact with it #lrnchat
9:52:29 pm lrnchat: If you’re on #lrnchat tonight & your co. does something in VW space or related, prod to sell, serv to offer, would you mention in close? Thx
9:52:29 pm taterunino: RT: @JoelFoner: Re “safety” issue in VW’s – gone to a mall lately? Checked out what kids can get to with clicks on the web? #lrnchat
9:52:33 pm ThomasStone: Like Clark suggested, I predict that we’ll get less of the regular value from #lrnchat from holding it in SL rather than Twitter.
9:52:38 pm Quinnovator: @ThomasStone reckon there is a real value proposition in VWs, however: http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=1379 #lrnchat
9:52:44 pm kkapp: #lrnchat 3 Not so obvious things about virtual worlds http://karlkapp.blogspot.com/2009/12/three-not-so-obvious-obvious-things.html
9:52:45 pm Ginaschreck: @BeyondtheBrink Girlfriend- we are at my place! :) #lrnchat
9:52:59 pm KoreenOlbrish: Koreen Olbrish, Nina Sommerfleck, virtually multitasking and really pleased by the SL/lrnchat experiment today #lrnchat
9:53:02 pm kanor74: @kasey428 I sent you a friend offer in SL..you will need to accept. #lrnchat
9:53:03 pm jkmind: #lrnchat jesse in very cold central nj. I need concrete resources for designing simulations. Particularly for the us navy
9:53:06 pm JaneBozarth: RDU, augmented bureaucrat, author, trainer, Dr. of Learnin’ Stuff (I GOT a robe, @gminks!) http://bozarthzone.blogspot.com #lrnchat
9:53:07 pm Quinnovator: already?!? RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links welcome. What can we help you with? #lrnchat
9:53:07 pm kasey428: Outta here. Much to do. Taking next 2 weeks off! Happy Holidays to all. #lrnchat
9:53:13 pm ThomasStone: There could be *other values* obtained — inc. introducing more of us to SL/VW — but core #lrnchat values would be diminished I suspect.
9:53:28 pm odguru: Christy- Guelph Canada. Got to the SL site but have too much media running. Heard something about sending Shamwows.#lrnchat. Thanks all.
9:53:57 pm britz: RT @gwoodill: Q3 – definitely virtual worlds should be experiential learning. Not fact, texts or lectures. #lrnchat
9:54:17 pm nancyrubin: Greetings from South Florida. Thanks for the great conversation – as always – favorite nite of the week! #lrnchat
9:54:26 pm ThomasStone: @Mary_a_Myers Alas, as much of a Star Trek fan as I am, I think the laws of physics make a real “holodeck” highly unlikely. #lrnchat
9:54:26 pm media1der: made it just in time to wish y’all happiest holidays! Sorry I missed the good stuff. #lrnchat
9:54:29 pm RobRobertson: Night all and robrob McCoy enjoyed hanging out in SL #lrnchat
9:54:36 pm JaneBozarth: @kasey428 Enjoy the time off! #lrnchat
9:54:36 pm jkunrein: qwrap – judy unrein, elearning instructional designer and off-the-wagon blogger in kansas city http://www.onehundredfortywords.com #lrnchat
9:54:46 pm gwoodill: Gary Woodill, Brandon Hall analyst, – new book on VWs with @Alex_Heiphetz. http://tinyurl.com/yzczpua #lrnchat
9:54:49 pm hybridkris: Qwrap Kris Rockwell, Hybrid Learning Systems. ARGs and Mobile Learning. #lrnchat
9:54:54 pm lrnchat: We are off for the next TWO weeks. If you want to drop in and tag with #lrnchat, pls do. Next year in learning!
9:54:57 pm dennisschleiche: Dennis Schleicher, business & industrial anthropologist http://tibetantailor.com/ #lrnchat
9:54:58 pm chambo_online: Lisa Chamberlin – looking for simple game theory to help design comm college composition course #lrnchat
9:55:13 pm ThomasStone: part of my point/warning here! RT @reward75: Wow, I thought keeping up with lrnchat was tough enough, try lrnchat and SL, sheesh #lrnchat
9:55:18 pm everyselearning: Gotta go eat supper. Night all! #lrnchat
9:55:20 pm kasey428: @kanor74 OK I logged in #lrnchat
9:55:22 pm britz: RT @moehlert: #lrnchat Darn. Looks like I missed a ton of good stuff. Me too – Xmas present wrapping night. Duty called.
9:55:27 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman, e-Learning Designer, creator of very silly, but memorable, courses. Oh, I’m in Baltimore, Hon. #lrnchat
9:55:30 pm jkmind: RT @britz: RT @gwoodill: Q3 – definitely virtual worlds should be experiential learning. Not fact, texts or lectures. #lrnchat
9:55:31 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Wow. Sorry to have missed it all. I am ChuckNoris Mission in 2L. Mark Oehlert IRL – virtual worlds, Social Media for Learning
9:55:42 pm everyselearning: Yum Osso Bucco! #lrnchat
9:55:55 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, learn tech design consultant; deeply into learning, fascinated with shiny toys; look to put together for real outcomes #lrnchat
9:55:57 pm Mary_a_Myers: Mary Myers, from Kingston, working and learning , learning and working. thanks for the #lrnchat
9:56:03 pm urbie: #lrnchat urbie delgado, isd n learner; urbie planer in SL
9:56:10 pm jmarrapodi: Jean Marrapodi, Providence, RI. Learning Architect working at the intersection of high tech and low literacy. #lrnchat
9:56:11 pm kkapp: #lrnchat Bye from cold PA, thxs for gr8 discussion, VWs are a great place to explore and like e-learning was 10 yrs ago, VW are there today
9:56:13 pm kanor74: Great chat…. hope you all give SL a try! Happy Holidays to everyone!! G’nite #lrnchat
9:56:19 pm Mary_a_Myers: @ThomasStone sigh, physics. #lrnchat
9:56:20 pm Ginaschreck: @JaneBozarth HA! in SL folks don’t know you are reading 7 pt font…as long as you don’t post them as slides in world! #lrnchat
9:56:26 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: We are off for the next TWO weeks. If you want to drop in and tag with #lrnchat, pls do. Next year in learning!
9:56:36 pm JaneBozarth: @chambo_online You came to the right place @quinnovator and @kkapp are all about games #lrnchat
9:56:43 pm lrnchat: Remember to pls contact @marciamarcia if you’re not already on the http://sn.im/lrnchat-list 127 already there. #lrnchat
9:56:43 pm reward75: @ThomasStone Actually, I meant at the same time, never been much of a multitasker :-) #lrnchat
9:56:45 pm MikeAbrams: Goodnight all. signing out of the tweetchat now. #lrnchat
9:56:48 pm sahana2802: Sahana, Instructional Designer and learner, love #lrnchat, novice blogger but love that too, believer of collaborative lrng & meaning making
9:56:57 pm everyselearning: Thanks to all for the first look at SL #lrnchat
9:57:17 pm ThomasStone: @Quinnovator agreed, there are many niche uses that will win out for L&D in SL/VW. I’ve been giving many such tonight. #lrnchat
9:57:18 pm JoelFoner: Would you guys be interested in We Are The Network topic announces in the #lrnchat group? (don’t want to be spammy – asking) #lrnchat
9:57:20 pm kkapp: #lrnchat I learned Tweeting and being in a VW really difficult
9:57:35 pm JaneBozarth: Rumor of big snow here in NC tomorrow, first in years. And brother does not know I have his childhood sled… #lrnchat
9:57:42 pm reward75: Regina Ward, NYC, jack of all things elearning and learning more :-) #lrnchat
9:57:44 pm KoreenOlbrish: happy holidays and best wishes for 2010! #lrnchat
9:57:50 pm Abhinava: Awww… this was the last #lrnchat for the year?!? :( next year then…! new year… new Ideas… :)
9:57:51 pm ChristyATucker: Christy Tucker, instructional designer near Raleigh, NC, just transitioned from higher ed to corp e-learning #lrnchat
9:57:56 pm shantarohse: Shanta Rohse aka India Vale, immersed in learning in Ottawa in RL #lrnchat
9:57:58 pm everyselearning: @allisunelearns thanks for that tip about moodle! #lrnchat
9:58:03 pm dwilkinsnh: David Wilkins, Exec Director of Product Marketing at Learn.com. Happy Holidays everyone! #lrnchat
9:58:12 pm allisunelearns: Allisun in Arcata, eLearning enthusiast, grad student & eLearning developer for Moodlerooms links on VW here http://bit.ly/6GQQH8 #lrnchat
9:58:18 pm kellygarber: Good night all, enjoy! And Cricket Crumb enjoyed the SL spot also. #lrnchat
9:58:19 pm joshcav: <—- Captivate expert. Lodestone offers classes on Adobe tools, Powerpoint, Camtasia, Moodle. Happy Holidays! http://bit.ly/6Pt9CH #lrnchat
9:58:34 pm everyselearning: @gwoodill OK give us the book name #lrnchat
9:58:58 pm JaneBozarth: @marciamarcia You guys are used to that. We are paralyzed when the first 6 flakes hit the ground. #lrnchat
9:59:02 pm allisunelearns: I have 15 Second Life in education related bookmarks here http://delicious.com/allisun/secondlife #lrnchat
9:59:07 pm planetrussell: I missed most of #lrnchat goodness this evening, too, @moehlert. But, ChuckNoris Mission in 2L = #awesomesauce (I’m Planeteer Steampunk.)
9:59:23 pm everyselearning: Nite all! #lrnchat
9:59:23 pm sahana2802: Playing for real in a virtual world: http://tiny.cc/zUD0e #lrnchat
9:59:39 pm ThomasStone: Thomas Stone, from Element K in Rochester, NY, signing off of #lrnchat this evening. Great conversation everyone!
9:59:44 pm JaneBozarth: Again: Both @gwoodill and @kkapp have new books out on related topics. Check them out! Buy extras as gifts! #lrnchat
9:59:55 pm marciamarcia: Marcia Conner, Sr Enterprise Strategist for Pistachio Consulting, writing book on SoMe for learning. Seeking lotso examples. @ me! #lrnchat
10:00:29 pm J_Schulz: Night all – this was an interesting experiment. #lrnchat
10:00:33 pm gwoodill: @everyselearning Training and Collaboration with Virtual Worlds. McGraw-Hill. Out in Jan. #lrnchat
10:00:47 pm Mary_a_Myers: @allisunelearns Thanks Allisun! #lrnchat
10:00:53 pm sahana2802: Happy holidays everyone. Have a wonderful time and a great 2010! #lrnchat
10:01:01 pm Abhinava: #lrnchat Abhinava from Bangalore, India – Problem Solver by being, ID by Profession and Norm Questioner by interest. :) Good Night/Day all
10:02:09 pm reward75: Happy Holidays to you all. “See” you next year!! #lrnchat
10:02:15 pm lrnchat: Thank you for joining us on #lrnchat. Pls remember to submit Qs & theme ideas for upcoming chats at http://sn.im/lrnchat

Transcript 10 Dec 2009

December 11, 2009 by Marcia Conner

8:30:09 pm lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been? Q0 warm up after the rules.
8:31:30 pm Mary_a_Myers: let the #lrnchat begin (many tweets to follow…most likely)
8:31:33 pm Quinnovator: @edwsonoma sitting in crowded gymnasium tonite to #lrnchat, (sigh), not even a desk!
8:31:34 pm KoreenOlbrish: alright! its about time to get this party started! drinks ready, everyone? #lrnchat
8:31:48 pm lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1) Introduce yourself. (We do this again at the end). Location? Focus? Fave topics?
8:32:01 pm roninchef: Tweetchat working for anyone? #lrnchat is going to be rough without it.
8:32:09 pm Quinnovator: rules, we don’t need no stinkin’ rules for #lrnchat (or, maybe, they help)
8:32:21 pm jadekaz: Going to #lrnchat it up, apologies for the ensuing flood.
8:32:25 pm Mary_a_Myers: tonight it’s a lovely cab sauv from the Niagara region. glass is full. ready for #lrnchat
8:32:30 pm mpetersell: What happened to Tweetchat #lrnchat
8:32:37 pm lrnchat: 2) [try to] stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 20 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
8:32:41 pm moehlert: @lrnchat Been great! Thanks for asking #lrnchat!
8:32:45 pm jkmind: #lrnchat yea, lrnchat
8:32:52 pm espnguyen: @roninchef Give tweetgrid a try. It’s my #lrnchat tool of choice
8:33:06 pm rpannoni: #lrnchat
8:33:08 pm magdaZINE: entering #lrnchat now. You have been warned
8:33:13 pm moehlert: FYI #lrnchat, read all my tweets tonight in your best DJ voice. Good.
8:33:13 pm edwsonoma: hi ellen wagner, in sonoma back from berlin and getting ready for boulder #lrnchat
8:33:15 pm Dave_Ferguson: Dave, enduring a readfest disguised as mandatory IT security online course (client rules). #lrnchat
8:33:18 pm Quinnovator: oh, and the official ™ #lrnchat drinking game at: http://lrnchatdrinkinggame.wikispaces.com/
8:33:22 pm lrnchat: 3) When writing, complete thoughts help followers outside chat learn from you. 4) on #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm, welcome tho.
8:33:24 pm KoreenOlbrish: Koreen Olbrish, just like the twitter ID says…not nominated for single edublog award, but some of my fellow moderators are :) #lrnchat
8:33:35 pm kerina: observing #lrnchat
8:33:42 pm bfchirpy: The only time this BritTwit is awake for #lrnchat and I’m about to go and be realia in a Tokyo school. Sigh.
8:34:03 pm JaneBozarth: Jane, Raleigh-ish, ruler of planet Jane, feral, rabid. Waiting to see where training will end up…#lrnchat
8:34:05 pm atsc: Andrew Chambers at big University Sydney, educational designer… Presently reading a new Intro to Business Course… #lrnchat
8:34:11 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, Performance Improvement Specialist , N. Texas – #lrnchat
8:34:20 pm jwillensky: @roninchef Check out tweetgrid; it works really well. #lrnchat
8:34:24 pm lrnchat: 5) Periodically RT questions so others outside #lrnchat know what you’re talking about so they can chime in.
8:34:25 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, Walnut Creek, learning experience design instigator, author, speaker, consultant, #lrnchat troublemaker
8:34:26 pm TerrenceWing: pedagogy… I just wanted an excuse to start drinking #lrnchat
8:34:44 pm allonsdanser: #lrnchat
8:34:47 pm LearningPutty: RT @moehlert: The next 90 minutes is #lrnchat – all about learning and training – jump in!
8:34:48 pm Mary_a_Myers: Mary Myers, from windy Kingston, instructional designer is my life; and this is my song. #lrnchat
8:34:57 pm mpetersell: I’m searching for #lrnchat live on TweetGrid Search – http://tweetgrid.com/search?q=%23lrnchat
8:34:58 pm jkmind: #lrnchat This is Jesse in Ewing NJ. I’m working on Sims right now so that’s my current focus
8:35:01 pm espnguyen: RT @TerrenceWing: pedagogy… I just wanted an excuse to start drinking #lrnchat
8:35:03 pm tgrevatt: Just saying Hi & Bye to #lrnchat migraine-time, no way I can keep up and handle tweetgrid ui too, have a great lrnchat
8:35:09 pm JaneBozarth: And benchmarking. RT @TerrenceWing: pedagogy… I just wanted an excuse to start drinking #lrnchat
8:35:12 pm jwillensky: Jason Willensky, ID consultant, Phoenix AZ #lrnchat
8:35:15 pm tonya_simmons: Tonya Goth Simmons, elearning production designer, Phasient Learning Technologies, Ames IA #lrnchat
8:35:15 pm allonsdanser: Angela Rand South Alabama. Yay semester is over! #lrnchat
8:35:26 pm KoreenOlbrish: straight outta (the western ‘burbs of) Philly, kickin’ it with virtual worlds, games, and sims, y’all! #lrnchat
8:35:38 pm magdaZINE: Multimedia storyteller, learning experience design, et. al. #lrnchat
8:35:45 pm lrnchat: 6) Remember to include the #lrnchat in all posts. http://tweetchat.com, http://tweetgrid.com & http://twubs.com/lrnchat work well.
8:35:46 pm Mary_a_Myers: @TerrenceWing you never need an excuse :) #lrnchat
8:35:48 pm LearningPutty: Renee Robbins, www.learningputty.com, Chicago IL #lrnchat
8:35:54 pm mpetersell: If you are following me tonight I am on… #lrnchat
8:35:56 pm Schnicker: Apologies now for next lot of tweets as they will all be #lrnchat related
8:35:57 pm tonya_simmons: oh and currently buried in snow #lrnchat
8:35:58 pm jwillensky: @tgrevatt Yikes. Feel better. #lrnchat
8:36:13 pm tmiket: Mike Taylor Learning Developer in Columbus, OH #lrnchat
8:36:15 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Mark Oehlert here from outside Washington DC. Virtual worlds, Social Media, anthropology, assorted pot-stirring
8:36:18 pm roninchef: Ahoy, ahoy! Mason Masteka, Elearning Curriculum Developer. Christmas tree wrangler and friend of Open Source #lrnchat
8:36:25 pm jaycross: To my groupies: next 90 minutes you can join me in #lrnchat
8:36:29 pm Quinnovator: stupid gym doesn’t have a bar, well, not a ‘drinking’ bar #lrnchat
8:36:39 pm kerina: Kerina – Instructional Designer in #Utah #lrnchat
8:36:42 pm allonsdanser: @KoreenOlbrish They say Ya’ll in the western burbs of Philly? :) #lrnchat
8:36:47 pm Mary_a_Myers: @tgrevatt I second the feel better! migraines are no fun. #lrnchat
8:36:56 pm edwsonoma: if you create a lrnchat column in tweetdeck it works pretty well, too. I’m using Tweetgrid and that. #lrnchat
8:37:03 pm Dave_Ferguson: First DC-area lrnchat meeting this week. Fine time had by both. #lrnchat
8:37:04 pm LearningPutty: But that doesn’t count right? :) RT @JaneBozarth: And benchmarking. RT @TerrenceWing: pedagogy… wanted excuse to start drinking #lrnchat
8:37:16 pm lrnchat: 7) 10 min before end, tell us if you need anything from the other #lrnchat participants. Time to reintroduce yourself, too. Links welcome.
8:37:22 pm tonya_simmons: @Quinnovator that’s what they make thermoses for #lrnchat
8:37:27 pm dennisschleiche: #lrnchat In Chicago, business anthropologist by education, looking forward to the discussion tonight
8:37:51 pm lrnchat: 8) Please RT important points & vital questions asked for clarification, so we don’t miss them amid the lively fast-paced #lrnchat
8:37:52 pm allisunelearns: Allisun O’Connell, long-time Moodler, eLearning luvva, Online Teaching/Learning grad student in the redwoods of Northern California #lrnchat
8:37:53 pm TerrenceWing: Terrence Wing – Los Angeles – Leadership and Mgmt Consulting: Will work for food too #lrnchat
8:37:57 pm mpetersell: RT @Schnicker: Apologies now for next lot of tweets as they will all be #lrnchat related
8:38:02 pm JaneBozarth: @LearningPutty What doesn’t count? #lrnchat (PS: Heuristic.)
8:38:08 pm roninchef: @jwillensky I’m using TwitterFall. It is my usual next best. I don’t like Tweetgrid for some reason. #lrnchat
8:38:12 pm Schnicker: Nicole Fougere, blogger at Litmos (LMS), living in New Zealand #lrnchat
8:38:16 pm JaneBozarth: @Dave_Ferguson Who else was there? #lrnchat
8:38:20 pm KoreenOlbrish: @allonsdanser no, but i couldn’t think of another slang term…shoulda picked “yuns”–at least that’s Pittsburgh :) #lrnchat
8:38:24 pm rpannoni: Rob Pannoni, enterprise learning consultant (governance, technology), Silicon Valley #lrnchat
8:38:30 pm lrnchat: Q0 (our weekly #lrnchat welcome, also check out @lrn2day) What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
8:38:36 pm edwsonoma: @Quinnovator stupid gymnasium :-( #lrnchat
8:38:36 pm tmiket: @terrencewing I’ll see your pedagogy and raise you an androgogy. #lrnchat
8:38:56 pm LDinSTL_Chimera: Weekly #lrnchat (click to join in) just started. More info: http://twurl.nl/4zdbs8
8:39:06 pm Quinnovator: @tonya_simmons yeah, but I have to drive home after… #lrnchat
8:39:11 pm jadekaz: ade Kazmierski | Freezing in Milwaukee | corp. ID | ID grad student | can’t figure out how to sign in to tweetgrid. wrong password #lrnchat
8:39:11 pm espnguyen: Steve Nguyen, Minneapolis, Technology Lead, Freezing my a$$ off #lrnchat
8:39:21 pm mpetersell: Hello all! Mike from Connecticut Interests are Learning Environments, Management Development and Hockey! #lrnchat
8:39:28 pm lrnchat: Q1) How can media sharing tools like YouTube (& internal counterparts) change the face of corporate education? #lrnchat
8:39:29 pm jwillensky: @roninchef I gotta admit, TG is incredibly ugly. #lrnchat
8:39:38 pm tmiket: I learned of Etherpad today…like Google Wave but much easier to use #lrnchat
8:39:38 pm Mary_a_Myers: i learned that two minds are better than one. #lrnchat
8:39:54 pm atsc: Q0) Communication is critical in and to all things… #lrnchat
8:39:56 pm kelly_smith01: I learned a little (via a blog or two) about use of Yammer in bigger companies #lrnchat
8:39:56 pm hybridkris: Kris Rockwell, Pittsburgh, PA mobile learning, and forgetter of the hashtag. #lrnchat
8:40:08 pm espnguyen: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can media sharing tools like YouTube (& internal counterparts) change the face of corporate education? #lrnchat
8:40:11 pm Dave_Ferguson: @JaneBozarth Oh, sorry, @kasey428 was there. Others wanted to but couldn’t make it. #lrnchat
8:40:11 pm everyselearning: Myra Rhodes Online elearning entrepreneur #lrnchat Problem with tweetchat and tweetdeck tonight Anyone else having same?
8:40:13 pm mpetersell: I learned that we must do more change resilience training for our managers; they are glazing over at the wrong time #lrnchat
8:40:23 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q0 (our weekly #lrnchat welcome) What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
8:40:24 pm atsc: Q1) Is this a rhetorical question? #lrnchat
8:40:32 pm moehlert: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can media sharing tools like YouTube (& internal counterparts) change the face of corporate education? #lrnchat
8:40:46 pm allisunelearns: Oh no tweetchat.com is down what’s an easy to use replacement? #lrnchat
8:40:47 pm tmiket: Q1 YouTube won’t be changing anything in my org…it’s blocked. #fail #lrnchat
8:40:54 pm littleasklab: leslie @littleasklab. I didn’t learn nuffink today. Too cold in Seattle. #lrnchat
8:40:56 pm bschlenker: Brent Schlenker – Phx, AZ – Freezing! – Lovin’ all things eLearning #lrnchat
8:40:59 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can media sharing tools like YouTube (& internal counterparts)change the face of corporate education? #lrnchat
8:41:02 pm allonsdanser: I’m learning to update my online portfolio using projects from my school projects. Rewriting them a bit. #lrnchat
8:41:06 pm LearningPutty: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can media sharing tools like YouTube (& internal counterparts) change the face of corporate education? #lrnchat
8:41:08 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @atsc: Q1) Is this a rhetorical question? #lrnchat
8:41:08 pm jaycross: Q1 Easy to create Show-and-tell videos to explain things. #lrnchat
8:41:19 pm Schnicker: @allisunelearns tweetgrid! #lrnchat
8:41:25 pm tmiket: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can media sharing tools like YouTube (& internal counterparts) change the face of corporate education? #lrnchat
8:41:26 pm jwillensky: Q0 I learned that you really can unclog a drain with baking soda and white vinegar. #lrnchat
8:41:28 pm mpetersell: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can media sharing tools like YouTube change the face of corporate education? #lrnchat
8:41:30 pm hjarche: Been learning a lot – just the stuff I find on Twitter is amalgamated each week here: http://is.gd/5iUrf #lrnchat
8:41:31 pm TerrenceWing: Cheers @tmiket @espnguyen @Mary_a_Myers @LearningPutty @JaneBozarth pedagogy… wanted excuse to start drinking #lrnchat
8:41:33 pm KoreenOlbrish: I learned that if my excuse is “I was busy running a company” then no one really argues with me #lrnchat
8:41:35 pm bschlenker: Q1) I’m all of a sudden feeling like listening to some Journey ;-) #lrnchat
8:41:38 pm jaycross: Q1 Video a la YouTube opens educational opportunities to illiterates. #lrnchat
8:41:39 pm allonsdanser: I just learned how to use http://tweetgrid.com/irc #lrnchat
8:41:55 pm Dave_Ferguson: I’m at my 3rd client in a year with very strong, grumpy firewall. #lrnchat
8:42:00 pm shantarohse: @allisunelearns tweetchat is up again! #lrnchat
8:42:03 pm atsc: @tmiket What about the use of shared open video generally? Is it used for anything in your org? #lrnchat
8:42:07 pm kasey428: Kay Wood, DC area, work for a federal contractor, performance and learning are passions #lrnchat
8:42:07 pm Mary_a_Myers: Q1) it changes things for the better (too obvious?) i learned just today that my company has a youtube channel…best kept secret #lrnchat
8:42:14 pm espnguyen: Q1) It’s helping people understand that learning doesn’t have to come from formal “courses” #lrnchat
8:42:16 pm magdaZINE: Q1 I think there will be “private label” video sharing. Corps not ready to open firewalls #lrnchat
8:42:28 pm KoreenOlbrish: User-generated media sharing tools made it cool & “more authentic” to go low budget with multimedia production :) #lrnchat
8:42:30 pm Mary_a_Myers: @jwillensky oh…thanks for the tip! #lrnchat
8:42:32 pm rpannoni: Media sharing tools allow learning without the usual dev time or cost #lrnchat
8:42:40 pm atsc: @shantarohse Damn and I just got used to tweetgrid! #lrnchat
8:42:47 pm jwillensky: Q1 Can help share expertise/ideas/wisdom/behaviors from anywhere on the org chart. #lrnchat
8:42:52 pm kasey428: RT @magdaZINE: Q1 I think there will be “private label” video sharing. Corps not ready to open firewalls #lrnchat
8:42:57 pm Dave_Ferguson: RT @hjarche: …the stuff I find on Twitter is amalgamated each week here: http://is.gd/5iUrf #lrnchat // an exemplar.
8:42:59 pm Quinnovator: Q0: learned that I can’t recall what I’ve learned when suddenly asked #lrnchat
8:43:04 pm kerina: RT @rpannoni: Media sharing tools allow learning without the usual dev time or cost #lrnchat [agree]
8:43:11 pm atsc: @espnguyen But isn’t video “transmissive”? #lrnchat
8:43:13 pm tmiket: @atsc Only the stuff I schlep in from home most all video blocked except DotSub and couple others #lrnchat
8:43:14 pm allonsdanser: Home depot is using YouTube to both get customers buyin AND it promotes. Check them out. See and learn. #lrnchat
8:43:20 pm mpetersell: Q1 – High Definition Video in small chunks that is searchable could be extremely helpful for just in time learning #lrnchat
8:43:22 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can media sharing tools like YouTube (& internal counterparts) change the face of corporate education? #lrnchat
8:43:25 pm Mary_a_Myers: @bschlenker umm…pls don’t make me laugh. i don’t want to wake the sleeping children. :) …journey..haha #lrnchat
8:43:26 pm jaycross: RT @shantarohse: @allisunelearns tweetchat is up again! #lrnchat
8:43:27 pm kelly_smith01: Social media is a form of informal learning or “pull” learning #lrnchat
8:43:28 pm gminks: hello :) #lrnchat
8:43:33 pm shantarohse: @atsc ah you learned something new today :-) #lrnchat
8:43:39 pm moehlert: @lrnchat #lrnchat Not sure its the tools that will change things but the uses we put them to.
8:43:40 pm LearningPutty: Q1) Corps need tools 2 support “on-the-job” lrng- Online tools like YouTube, wiki’s, twitter, etc. provide opp. 4 instant feedback. #lrnchat
8:43:40 pm allisunelearns: @Schnicker First look Tweetgrid seemed intimidating with long “how to” page but going to straight to search not so bad #lrnchat
8:43:41 pm roninchef: Q1 My team uses Youtube as a resource for ideas while we are brainstorming. Did a bunch of that this week #lrnchat
8:43:47 pm bbaskin: Following along with #lrnchat e-learning thread. No posts, though, since very few of my ppl here are into e-learning
8:43:49 pm littleasklab: RT @Mary_a_Myers: RT @atsc: Q1) Is this a rhetorical question? #lrnchat
8:43:53 pm TerrenceWing: RT @moehlert: #lrnchat Q1) Not sure its the tools that will change things but the uses we put them to.
8:43:56 pm Quinnovator: Q1: allowing quick capture of performance, telling stories, etc for sharing, annotation, discussion #lrnchat
8:43:57 pm jsuzcampos: Jeannette Campos, little late, not here for a long time, just here for a good time :-) #lrnchat
8:44:06 pm shantarohse: I learned to let the data speak. #lrnchat
8:44:09 pm moehlert: @atsc @espnguyen #lrnchat Check out VoiceThread or Seesmic Video
8:44:16 pm tmiket: @atsc Lots of great stuff we are missing – big opportunity being missed I think #lrnchat
8:44:18 pm Dr_KG: I learned that many people still have not yet learned that you don’t have to lack integrity to be successful. #lrnchat
8:44:23 pm magdaZINE: Q1 Video works best illustrating processes or how things work. Should be embraced by companies #lrnchat
8:44:27 pm Mary_a_Myers: @KoreenOlbrish totally agree w/ mm production here! so many clients want the “youtube” look. #lrnchat
8:44:31 pm readtoday: hello #lrnchat
8:44:32 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @Quinnovator: Q1: allowing quick capture of performance, telling stories, etc for sharing, annotation, discussion #lrnchat
8:44:43 pm Dave_Ferguson: Good, TweetChat’s back. Change for change’s sake vastly overrated. (Remember, most learners think that, too.) #lrnchat
8:44:54 pm tmiket: We do use a good bit of video from Flip video cameras and the like. Just no easy way to share it #lrnchat
8:44:55 pm hybridkris: Q1 – It’s something that users can create which gives them a sense of investment and participation in the training program dev. #lrnchat
8:45:09 pm kelly_smith01: Issue with youtube and the like is verifying its validity for application 2 learning #lrnchat
8:45:09 pm kasey428: Federal agencies are using YouTube to market what they are & what they do. Don’t know if there r any use for internal purposes #lrnchat
8:45:11 pm mpetersell: Wonder bar from Unity Media could come in handy http://unitymg.com/products/wonderbar/ #lrnchat
8:45:14 pm dennisschleiche: #lrnchat It mixes OTJ (on the job) training with aspects of formal training ,like multiple viewings with CBT (computer based training)
8:45:19 pm gminks: (what was Q1 – I was late….) #lrnchat
8:45:22 pm jaycross: RT @magdaZINE: Q1 Video works best illustrating processes or how things work. Should be embraced by companies #lrnchat
8:45:23 pm Mary_a_Myers: @gminks hello! #lrnchat
8:45:31 pm JaneBozarth: Tonya TKO makes Fab use of YouTube + comment area to create interactivity w/ participants. Very clever. #lrnchat
8:45:35 pm Dave_Ferguson: Mies van der Rohe on video in learning: less is more. No one, not even speaker, wants an hour. Unless they’re lying. #lrnchat
8:45:49 pm bschlenker: RT @jaycross: RT @magdaZINE: Q1 Video works best illustrating processes or how things work. Should be embraced by companies #lrnchat
8:45:52 pm edwsonoma: @tmiket @jaycross is masterful with his Flip video chronicles!\ #lrnchat
8:45:59 pm gminks: @Mary_a_Myers hi!!! :) #lrnchat
8:46:06 pm readtoday: I think it is really strange that someone besides me used baking soda and white vinegar this week #lrnchat
8:46:20 pm LearningPutty: But some Corps don’t even allow. RT @TerrenceWing: RT @moehlert: #lrnchat Q1) Not sure tools will change things but the uses we put them to.
8:46:26 pm moehlert: #lrnchat How many people have seen www.defense.gov? New DOD portal dripping with all kinds of SoMe tools, etc…don’t know whats changing…
8:46:27 pm minutebio: FYI Tweetchat is running again #lrnchat
8:46:28 pm Quinnovator: @Ginaschreck tells great stories about using Flip videos: folks create vid explaining what their unit does to other parts of biz #lrnchat
8:46:29 pm jaycross: Q1 Quick YouTube videos are great for practicing and sharing presentations. #lrnchat
8:46:30 pm bschlenker: Q1) Video is being adopted more quickly by NON-learning folks – like marketing, and comm #lrnchat
8:46:38 pm Schnicker: @allisunelearns Yeah, it’s not so pretty but works OK. Always hard to keep up with so many tweets anyway! #lrnchat
8:46:43 pm mpetersell: Video useful for training service people on repairing equipment they don’t see very frequently #lrnchat
8:46:49 pm Mary_a_Myers: Q1) for internal use I find it a great way to get employees to “drink the Kool-Aid” and get in tune with corp culture. #lrnchat
8:46:51 pm allonsdanser: RT @roninchef: Q1 My team uses Youtube as a resource for ideas while we are brainstorming. Did a bunch of that this week #lrnchat
8:46:52 pm readtoday: RT@ bschlenker RT @jaycross: RT @magdaZINE: Q1 Video works best illustrating processes or how things work. #lrnchat
8:46:53 pm tmiket: @edwsonoma Love how usable the Flip et al are #lrnchat
8:46:54 pm JaneBozarth: Well, and puts the power directly into hands of trainers/learners #lrnchat
8:47:02 pm kasey428: RT @bschlenker: Q1) Video is being adopted more quickly by NON-learning folks – like marketing, and comm #lrnchat
8:47:10 pm atsc: @jaycross And especially when integrated within lessons and with follow on activities? #lrnchat
8:47:12 pm edwsonoma: @gminks #lrnchat hey Gina!
8:47:16 pm bschlenker: Q1) People are LEARNING tons from video, but for some reason Learning departments are slow to adopt #lrnchat
8:47:17 pm allonsdanser: @KoreenOlbrish hehe #lrnchat
8:47:19 pm readtoday: Actually video is not that great at illustrating how 3D objects work #lrnchat
8:47:22 pm KoreenOlbrish: i love video for the storytelling aspect, and the ability to subscribe to episodes for bits of learning is great #lrnchat
8:47:23 pm Quinnovator: Sun captures best practice sales pitches (with directors notes: cognitive annotation!) #lrnchat
8:47:25 pm espnguyen: Q1) Aside from video, would there be a learning use for an internal Flickr type site? #lrnchat
8:47:53 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) I have seen video/flip used for level I reaction. So MUCH more valuable than the proverbial smile sheet. #lrnchat
8:47:59 pm jaycross: RT @moehlert: New DOD portal dripping with all kinds of SoMe tools, etc…dont know | Is this a PR gimik or the real thing, Mark? #lrnchat
8:48:02 pm bschlenker: RT @Mary_a_Myers: Q1) internal use I find it great way to get employees to “drink the Kool-Aid” and get in tune with corp culture. #lrnchat
8:48:05 pm mpetersell: @bschlenker Learning Departments don’t know how to create video easily #lrnchat
8:48:06 pm tmiket: @bschlenker Could slow adoption be a lack of skill/knowledge thing? Curious #lrnchat
8:48:07 pm allonsdanser: @roninchef So you search YouTube during the session to see what others are doing? Benchmarking? #lrnchat
8:48:16 pm gminks: @edwsonoma hey!!! :) #lrnchat
8:48:18 pm magdaZINE: Q1 Nowadays I would think video might be even cheaper to produce than some learning materials #lrnchat
8:48:19 pm atsc: Q1) I wanna rebuild our new intro to management course using video… Damn the text… #lrnchat
8:48:22 pm bschlenker: RT @Quinnovator: Sun captures best practice sales pitches (with directors notes: cognitive annotation!) <<cool idea! #lrnchat
8:48:23 pm Dr_KG: RT @magdaZINE: Q1 Video works best illustrating processes or how things work. Should be embraced by companies #lrnchat
8:48:23 pm kelly_smith01: Youtube is a type of reusable learning object. #lrnchat
8:48:27 pm Dave_Ferguson: Flip de-mystifies video, the way hmtl demystified IT. But shared video still in gotta-like-to-tinker phase. #lrnchat
8:48:31 pm rpannoni: Even in the bad old days when video required real production it was often cheaper than traditional dev #lrnchat
8:48:34 pm moehlert: @LearningPutty @TerrenceWing #lrnchat and they won’t if we don’t keep pushing for them and talking about bizness needs they can meet
8:48:36 pm hjarche: @espnguyen think internal Flickr would be good for remembering events – storytelling & recall #lrnchat
8:48:38 pm jaycross: RT @readtoday: Actually video is not that great at illustrating how 3D objects work | How so? It works for me… #lrnchat
8:48:45 pm espnguyen: This has helped cross functional collab RT @bschlenker: Q1) Video is being adopted more quickly by NON-learning folks #lrnchat
8:48:46 pm gminks: @lrnchat what is q1 plz? #lrnchat
8:48:53 pm readtoday: RT@jaycross RT @moehlert: New DOD portal dripping with all kinds of SoMe tools, etc.. Is this a PR gimik or the real thing, #lrnchat
8:48:56 pm Dr_KG: RT @roninchef: Q1 My team uses Youtube as a resource for ideas while we are brainstorming. Did a bunch of that this week #lrnchat
8:49:00 pm Tim_M_Martin: RT @jaycross: RT @moehlert: New DOD portal dripping with all kinds of SoMe tools, etc… #lrnchat
8:49:01 pm jadekaz: Q1) Media sharing would allow “experts” to take the stage. Although would have to fight the “playing around” stereotype. #lrnchat
8:49:12 pm tonnet: RT @bschlenker Q1) People are LEARNING tons from video, but for some reason Learning departments are slow to adopt #lrnchat
8:49:22 pm Dave_Ferguson: @espnguyen Re internal Flickr: I think so: stills of process, parts, products, forms, locales…not to mention people. #lrnchat
8:49:24 pm mpetersell: How do we deploy video in orgs without making it public on YouTube – not everything can/should be public #lrnchat
8:49:24 pm JaneBozarth: it’s not just about vid per se– about who creates, controls, speed, how tools can be deployed #lrnchat
8:49:25 pm Dr_KG: RT @Quinnovator: Sun captures best practice sales pitches (with directors notes: cognitive annotation!) #lrnchat
8:49:29 pm jsuzcampos: @gminks Q1) How can media sharing tools like YouTube (& internal counterparts) change the face of corporate education? #lrnchat
8:49:31 pm bschlenker: RT @tmiket: @bschlenker Could slow adoption be a lack of skill/knowledge thing? Curious #lrnchat <could be, but shouldn’t be!
8:49:32 pm espnguyen: @hjarche Good example. Thank you. #lrnchat
8:49:41 pm jaycross: RT @hjarche: @espnguyen think internal Flickr would be good for …profiles and family updates, contests, etc #lrnchat
8:49:49 pm Quinnovator: think of sharing great examples of customer service, contexts of problems needing solved, #lrnchat
8:49:54 pm roninchef: @allonsdanser As we pound through ideas, someone always says “Do you remember such and such?” Youtube usually has it. #lrnchat
8:49:56 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @kelly_smith01: Youtube is a type of reusable learning object. #lrnchat
8:50:04 pm gminks: @jsuzcampos thanks! #lrnchat
8:50:05 pm LearningPutty: exactly – solve don’t sell! RT @moehlert: @LearningPutty @TerrenceWing #lrnchat they won’t if we don’t talk about bizness needs they meet
8:50:16 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) With video, flip, etc, “Learning is fun again.” It’s that simple. #lrnchat
8:50:19 pm Dr_KG: @Tim_M_Martin which new DOD portal? #lrnchat
8:50:22 pm rpannoni: Video works best for learning when people can discuss it. Tools are still immature in this regard. #lrnchat
8:50:22 pm mpetersell: @JaneBozarth creation and deployment capabilities probably the biggest issues #lrnchat
8:50:28 pm bschlenker: @mpetersell There are lots of enterprise YouTube-ish apps or you could create your own – Drupal, Moodle, etc. #lrnchat
8:50:28 pm jadekaz: Q1) We have a Flip at work, but I’ve yet to find a good use for it within our elearning. Words/graphics/audio have always sufficed. #lrnchat
8:50:30 pm moehlert: @jaycross #lrnchat From the Public Affairs standpoint – it is VERY REAL – when a soldier deploys, his family deploys – new mantra on comms
8:50:34 pm magdaZINE: Q1 there are already so many experts teaching on YouTube. Companies should take advantage of it. #lrnchat
8:50:39 pm readtoday: RT @jaycross: RT @readtoday: Actually video is not that great at illustrating how 3D objects work | How so? It works for me… #lrnchat
8:50:41 pm kasey428: @mpetersell agreed. Poorly produced & edited videos are bad, & many training groups don’t have the skills necessary for either #lrnchat
8:50:46 pm bschlenker: RT @Mary_a_Myers: RT @kelly_smith01: Youtube is a type of reusable learning object. <<Good call! #lrnchat
8:50:47 pm Quinnovator: @mpetersell sun’s flogging their solution ;) #lrnchat
8:50:50 pm edwsonoma: @bschlenker slow adoption more likely due to not knowing what’s involved #lrnchat
8:50:56 pm jaycross: Q1 Sun uses videola. It stashes videos behind a firewall by default. #lrnchat
8:50:57 pm espnguyen: @jaycross @dave_ferguson Thank you for the insight #lrnchat
8:51:02 pm KoreenOlbrish: not sure video is better than any other medium–it all depends on the DESIGN (c’mon that warrants a drink, right?!?!) #lrnchat
8:51:12 pm atsc: Hmmm… I wanna give my students flip video… #lrnchat
8:51:12 pm moehlert: RT @JaneBozarth: it’s not just about vid per se– about who creates, controls, speed, how tools can be deployed #lrnchat U said it girl!
8:51:14 pm stickylearning: Late joining #lrnchat. Hi, Michael, in Melbourne currently eating Bento box lunch at a Japanese Soul Food cafe. Let’s hop into the stream!
8:51:19 pm hjarche: video recording of experts was basis of David Merrill’s ID2 CBT engine in mid-90’s (good idea anyway) #lrnchat
8:51:24 pm tmiket: @jadekaz Use of video in elearning depends on the topic. Obviously some better suited than others #lrnchat
8:51:26 pm gminks: Q1 these sort of tools can float experts, comes back to cost and who owns the “service” #lrnchat
8:51:31 pm bschlenker: @jadekaz Video not always good as a learning solution #lrnchat
8:51:33 pm readtoday: @jaycross You need to video around the object to teach anything about the object #lrnchat
8:51:33 pm kasey428: Just because you have the software doesn’t mean anything of value can be produced. #lrnchat
8:51:36 pm magdaZINE: definitely RT @bschlenker: RT @Mary_a_Myers: RT @kelly_smith01: Youtube is a type of reusable learning object. <<Good call! #lrnchat
8:51:46 pm espnguyen: Curious if bandwidth still an issue with regards to video deployment at your orgs? #lrnchat
8:51:50 pm Dave_Ferguson: Medium for ‘how it works’ depends on complexity–animation may be simpler, less distraction. One size doesn’t fit all. #lrnchat
8:51:50 pm atsc: @edwsonoma or are they scared of the tech or the change that would come to their role? #lrnchat
8:51:59 pm bschlenker: RT @KoreenOlbrish: not sure video is better than any other medium–it all depends on the DESIGN (cmon DRINK!) <<Cheers! #lrnchat
8:52:06 pm mpetersell: @gminks ownership is another big issue #lrnchat
8:52:19 pm readtoday: It is very easy to do video badly. YouTube is a great example of a vast garbage can of excess #lrnchat
8:52:27 pm edwsonoma: @KoreenOlbrish was to busy drinking to respond #lrnchat
8:52:27 pm magdaZINE: Is there a YouTube video on “How to use tweetgrid? ;) #lrnchat
8:52:34 pm moehlert: RT @KoreenOlbrish: not sure video is better than any other medium–it all depends on the DESIGN #lrnchat Cheers!
8:52:35 pm jaycross: Not all writing is good writing. Not all video is good video. Can’t blame the medium for that. #lrnchat
8:52:36 pm JaneBozarth: @LearningPutty Well of course it counts. Connectivism. #lrnchat
8:52:40 pm hybridkris: RT @KoreenOlbrish: not sure video is better than any other medium – depends on DESIGN (c’mon that warrants a drink, right?!?!) #lrnchat Yep.
8:52:41 pm minutebio: Q1) Too many corps, like mine, block somed including YouTube. But vid made internally is gr8 way for experts speak to learners #lrnchat
8:52:46 pm gminks: @espnguyen I think how its accessed is a big issue, much more valuable if available on blackberries #lrnchat
8:52:47 pm atsc: @espnguyen Not here, our uni is mostly internally T2 and 100 mbs to desks… #lrnchat
8:52:56 pm Schnicker: @espnguyen Bandwidth is an issue for many of our larger clients #lrnchat
8:52:57 pm Dave_Ferguson: @KoreenOlbrish You bet. It’s ain’t good because it’s on video (on in HTML, or on your iPod) #lrnchat
8:53:00 pm kelly_smith01: YouTube and other SoMe could be used for case study. e.g. Observe an interview and describe good/bad interview points #lrnchat
8:53:02 pm kasey428: RT @bschlenker: RT @KoreenOlbrish: not sure video is better than any other medium–it all depends on the DESIGN. Bloody Mary, pls. #lrnchat
8:53:07 pm jsuzcampos: RT @mpetersell: @gminks ownership is another big issue <<YES, copyright, privacy, permission, etc #lrnchat
8:53:09 pm tmiket: @espnguyen We still have bandwidth issues to deal with – lots of slow connections outside corp offices #lrnchat
8:53:12 pm rpannoni: Good point. RT @atsc: @edwsonoma or are they scared of the tech or the change that would come to their role? #lrnchat
8:53:16 pm roninchef: @readtoday What about 3d animation? Blender, 3ds Max etc? I am using Blender for visualization. #lrnchat
8:53:16 pm LearningPutty: Ha… Krikpatrick. RT @JaneBozarth: @LearningPutty Well of course it counts. Connectivism. #lrnchat
8:53:20 pm Quinnovator: @espnguyen cisco will happily sell you some bandwidth capable routers, if it’s a prob :) #lrnchat
8:53:22 pm atsc: @readtoday No it’s more a can of reusable learning objects… If you search you may find… #lrnchat
8:53:33 pm bschlenker: RT @jaycross: Not all writing is good writing. Not all video is good video. Cant blame the medium for that. <<I’ll drink 2that2! #lrnchat
8:53:34 pm allonsdanser: RT @Quinnovator: tells gr8 stories abt using Flip videos: folks create vid explaining wht their unit does 2 other parts of biz #lrnchat
8:53:37 pm shantarohse: I carry my camera everywhere at work. People get used to. (Dress better too). #lrnchat
8:53:42 pm edwsonoma: @atsc I really don’t think it’s as much fear as it is simply unknown #lrnchat
8:53:44 pm TerrenceWing: Orgs have 2 encourage exploration & accept that it comes with short term neg impact on productivity / long term + imp #lrnchat
8:53:46 pm jadekaz: @tmiket You got it. That’s it exactly – what we teach is best done with Captivate. Video good for soft skills or physical. #lrnchat
8:53:51 pm minutebio: RT @Schnicker: @espnguyen Bandwidth is an issue for many of our larger clients – 2nd that. #lrnchat
8:53:54 pm moehlert: @readtoday #lrnchat That could also describe the entire Internet, ne’ the Western world no?
8:53:59 pm readtoday: RT @roninchef: @readtoday What about 3d animation? Blender, 3ds Max etc? I am using Blender for visualization. #lrnchat
8:54:01 pm Mary_a_Myers: @espnguyen most ppl are in the office…connected to the network…superfast…so not in an issue for internal #lrnchat
8:54:04 pm kelly_smith01: There are few interviews of Geary Rummler (and others) out there #lrnchat
8:54:12 pm JaneBozarth: @KoreenOlbrish Yes, I’ll drink to that. #lrnchat
8:54:19 pm dennisschleiche: #lrnchat Why is it that these learning videos aren’t like all that family vacation video that is dreadful to wade through?
8:54:20 pm moehlert: @atsc @edwsonoma #lrnchat THE CHANGE! No! It Burns!!!
8:54:26 pm gminks: RT @jaycross: Not all writing is good writing. Not all video is good video. Cant blame the medium for that. #lrnchat
8:54:27 pm espnguyen: @gminks Interesting that it’s better if sent to mobile device. #lrnchat
8:54:30 pm hybridkris: @KoreenOlbrish Watching the Steelers play right now I don’t need a #lrnchat excuse to drink.
8:54:32 pm readtoday: @roninchef Yes. Exactly. We did some of the first real-time 3D animations on the Internet–great for education #lrnchat
8:54:33 pm atsc: @edwsonoma Yes until recently I held that same “fear” about video… #lrnchat
8:54:40 pm rpannoni: If you run a dept full of IDs, what will you do with them when users create content? #lrnchat
8:54:41 pm Quinnovator: wow, unintended consequences! RT @shantarohse: I carry my camera everywhere at work. People get used to. (Dress better too). #lrnchat
8:54:46 pm readtoday: RT @moehlert: @readtoday #lrnchat That could also describe the entire Internet, ne’ the Western world no?
8:54:49 pm roninchef: @jaycross Isn’t that Youtube in a nutshell? Signal vs noise. A good signal tends to rise. Really bad noise rises too though. #lrnchat
8:55:10 pm Dave_Ferguson: @edwsonoma I think some “fear” might be worry about (a) time & effort to get up to speed, (b) falling behind in your ohre work. #lrnchat
8:55:14 pm JaneBozarth: Q1 was also about internal tools and OTHER media sharing tools. Slideshare? Other? #lrnchat
8:55:15 pm allonsdanser: @moehlert I had a chat with a University HR mangr yest who told me how evil SoMe is. Interesting that DoD likes. #lrnchat
8:55:18 pm Mary_a_Myers: @shantarohse so what do you shoot? just anything that seems interesting? #lrnchat
8:55:19 pm atsc: @rpannoni users cannot create the pathways… #lrnchat
8:55:20 pm bschlenker: @hybridkris Rats! Thursday night NFL? I didn’t update my FF team #lrnchatsig #lrnchat
8:55:28 pm gminks: DRINK! RT @LearningPutty: Ha… Krikpatrick. RT @JaneBozarth: @LearningPutty Well of course it counts. Connectivism. #lrnchat
8:55:29 pm hjarche: @rpannoni get the ID’s to “connect & communicate” #lrnchat
8:55:30 pm readtoday: @moehlert Well. If we are discussing learning then we don’t want to be in a trash can. No? #lrnchat
8:55:36 pm KoreenOlbrish: are there any media sharing tools orgs use besides Flickr and YouTube? #lrnchat
8:55:38 pm jadekaz: “make a Flip video” sounds easy and quick – until you over think it, formalize it, then stylize it. hours to make 1 in r world. #lrnchat
8:55:44 pm Quinnovator: another benefit, unliterate managers can just film their messages, reviews, and things, rather than write them #lrnchat
8:55:46 pm Dr_KG: @magdaZINE …Only if you can use it as is or design it to be modified easily. #lrnchat
8:55:47 pm tmiket: @roninchef Isn’t that a big part of our role. Highlighting the signals and muting the noise? #lrnchat
8:55:50 pm atsc: @Quinnovator What about privacy of the people you shoot? #lrnchat
8:56:10 pm edwsonoma: @moehlert step into the light…..that’s it… #lrnchat
8:56:12 pm mpetersell: @allonsdanser So we are a circle of evil then. LOL #lrnchat
8:56:12 pm jaycross: RT @roninchef: Signal vs noise. A good signal tends to rise. Really bad noise rises too though. Yes, yes & yes. #lrnchat
8:56:18 pm JaneBozarth: Y’all who are DMing me right now? I ain’t reading them till after 10 ET. #lrnchat
8:56:22 pm bschlenker: Trust me when I say GREAT video is being done for dirt cheap these days! If u can’t then find the people who can. #lrnchat
8:56:27 pm J_Schulz: I hate when I’m late the #lrnchat. What question are we on?? ;-)
8:56:28 pm readtoday: I find Twitter quite educational. It has no video or animation #lrnchat
8:56:37 pm jaycross: RT @atsc: @Quinnovator What about privacy of the people you shoot? | Privacy is overrated. #lrnchat
8:56:42 pm moehlert: #lrnchat as it’s meant to be enjoyed. http://yfrog.com/373rxj
8:56:42 pm hjarche: @KoreenOlbrish slideshare is another media sharing platform (but watch out who controls your data) #lrnchat
8:56:44 pm Quinnovator: but why fear? film, upload, done. Tho’ you have to model that production values don’t matter #lrnchat
8:56:49 pm JaneBozarth: @KoreenOlbrish Slideshare. Does blip count? #lrnchat
8:56:49 pm gminks: @espnguyen depends on where your learners are, right? #lrnchat
8:56:50 pm Dave_Ferguson: @jadekaz Re hours to make video: yes, and avg person’s std is broadcast quality. Need highly compelling content/need to offset. #lrnchat
8:56:51 pm tmiket: @jadekaz Maybe so but Flip video MUCH faster to work with than “regular” video at least for me #lrnchat
8:57:01 pm Dave_Ferguson: @jaycross Not MY privacy. #lrnchat
8:57:02 pm Mary_a_Myers: Great answer! RT @hjarche: @rpannoni get the ID’s to “connect & communicate” #lrnchat
8:57:12 pm jsuzcampos: RT @Quinnovator unliterate managers can just film messages rather than write them<I do this with my students, simple, powerful #lrnchat
8:57:15 pm Dr_KG: @Quinnovator Ppl don’t mind being “captured”. What r the implications? Legalities? #lrnchat
8:57:16 pm readtoday: RT @bschlenker Trust me when I say GREAT video is being done for dirt cheap these days! If u can’t then find the people who can. #lrnchat
8:57:18 pm espnguyen: Anyone effectively using an internal Delicious like ConnectBeam? #lrnchat
8:57:22 pm jaycross: @J_Schultz, question is whether there is a God. #lrnchat
8:57:22 pm minutebio: RT @atsc: @Quinnovator What about privacy of the people you shoot? I have had staff sign agreement..only internal staff in vids #lrnchat
8:57:29 pm roninchef: @KoreenOlbrish Vimeo has been a quiet favorite for me. I brought my team onto Google Wave this week. Kicking and screaming :) #lrnchat
8:57:29 pm edwsonoma: @jadekaz #lrnchat @jaycross is the Flip video master :-)
8:57:38 pm jadekaz: @readtoday But lots of videos are shared via links on Twitter. #lrnchat
8:57:41 pm Quinnovator: @atsc their email’s trolled, phone calls recorded, their searches tracked, it’s part of corporate america :p #lrnchat
8:57:43 pm moehlert: @allonsdanser #lrnchat to paraphrase Forest Gump: evil is as evil does.
8:57:46 pm espnguyen: @gminks Absolutely. Gotta meet your learners where they are. #lrnchat
8:57:49 pm shantarohse: @Mary_a_Myers events, meetings, lunch’n'learns. Anything I think can be used again. #lrnchat
8:57:54 pm J_Schulz: @jaycross I’m glad we’re hitting on the easy questions tonight. #lrnchat
8:57:58 pm readtoday: @bschlenker That is a very depressing idea. Why would you want dirt cheap video? #lrnchat
8:58:02 pm JaneBozarth: YouTube once solved huge problem for me in less than an afternoon. Sometimes just needs to be DONE, not perfect #lrnchat
8:58:07 pm Dave_Ferguson: Privacy v much an issue w: govt agencies, large corps, places where public could get into the picture. Also, all of Washington DC. #lrnchat
8:58:08 pm rpannoni: Maybe, but it’s not what they were trained to do. RT @hjarche: get the ID’s to “connect & communicate” #lrnchat
8:58:11 pm LearningPutty: I like the fact that u can integrate all of these into Facebook. RT @KoreenOlbrish: tools orgs use besides Flickr and YouTube? #lrnchat
8:58:11 pm jaycross: RT @edwsonoma: @jadekaz #lrnchat @jaycross is the Flip video master :-) Thanks, Ellen. I agree. #lrnchat
8:58:15 pm KoreenOlbrish: @JaneBozarth I think blip should count. Now I wanna go record a learning song… #lrnchat
8:58:15 pm tmiket: @roninchef I really like Vimeo too. #lrnchat
8:58:19 pm readtoday: RT @jadekaz: @readtoday But lots of videos are shared via links on Twitter. #lrnchat
8:58:24 pm hjarche: audio quality is much more important than video (for learning & appeal) spend money on a good mic #lrnchat
8:58:27 pm Dr_KG: LOL!RT @Quinnovator: another benefit, unliterate managers can just film their messages, reviews, and things, rather than write them #lrnchat
8:58:35 pm allonsdanser: @mpetersell Ha! Confirmed by an HR manager at Univ. of S. AL. :) #lrnchat
8:58:37 pm jsuzcampos: RT @Quinnovator For speed and impact (not because I am illiterate) #lrnchat
8:58:48 pm Quinnovator: RT @jaycross: RT @atsc: @Quinnovator What about privacy of the people you shoot? | Privacy is overrated. #lrnchat
8:58:59 pm readtoday: @jadekaz Good point! See I learned something;-) I don’t usually look at videos from Twitter. I like the articles. #lrnchat
8:59:01 pm roninchef: @tmiket This is true. I also think the bad has merit in what not to do. And for laughs. #lrnchat
8:59:08 pm atsc: Our Unis answer: http://tv.unsw.edu.au/ #lrnchat
8:59:09 pm kasey428: @allonsdanser DoD uses SoMe for external push. @moehlert works where SoMe is respected because of his efforts. Others not fans. #lrnchat
8:59:16 pm jaycross: RT @hjarche: audio quality is more important than video (for learning & appeal) spend money on a good mic ||| and train your voice #lrnchat
8:59:17 pm hjarche: @rpannoni will have to train ID’s for the future ;-) http://is.gd/5iVpP #lrnchat
8:59:27 pm atsc: @Quinnovator But still a right… #lrnchat
8:59:28 pm Quinnovator: @jsuzcampos meant it as a joke, but it’s true #lrnchat
8:59:28 pm lrnchat: Q2) How can collaborative content creation (wikis, googledocs) lead to new learning in organizations? #lrnchat
8:59:31 pm kelly_smith01: Practice “observational” task analysis by using a YouTube video #lrnchat
8:59:34 pm gminks: IDs can help filter the info needed for job tasks, they can be the oyster shuckers http://bit.ly/6h9f3h #lrnchat
8:59:34 pm jadekaz: Read once that quality of video is not a huge factor to students in content quality is excellent. That’s an inroad for Flip. #lrnchat
8:59:48 pm Quinnovator: @Dr_KG make it part of the workplace agreement: film for your benefit to perform, not to hold against you #lrnchat
8:59:51 pm espnguyen: @KoreenOlbrish Learned at #dl09 about how Microsoft uses the SharePoint podcasting toolkit that nicely merges media in one place. #lrnchat
8:59:54 pm tmiket: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can collaborative content creation (wikis, googledocs) lead to new learning in organizations? #lrnchat
8:59:55 pm mpetersell: @Quinnovator Privacy is not overrated by European Works Councils! #lrnchat
8:59:59 pm moehlert: @jaycross @J_Schultz #lrnchat Didn’t we answer that using the #whackamole Principle?
9:00:00 pm JaneBozarth: AMEN RT @bschlenker: Trust me when I say GREAT video is being done for dirt cheap these days! If u can’t, find the people who can. #lrnchat
9:00:06 pm jadekaz: Students making Flip videos might be better than “professional” ID doing it. Expectations lower and just want to get it done. #lrnchat
9:00:14 pm mpetersell: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can collaborative content creation (wikis, googledocs) lead to new learning in organizations? #lrnchat
9:00:15 pm jaycross: Q2. Uh…. all learning is co-collaborative. #lrnchat
9:00:16 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can collaborative content creation (wikis, googledocs) lead to new learning in organizations? #lrnchat
9:00:16 pm LearningPutty: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can collaborative content creation (wikis, googledocs) lead to new learning in organizations? #lrnchat
9:00:17 pm atsc: @jadekaz Audio is MUCH more problematic than video quality… #lrnchat
9:00:18 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @jaycross: @J_Schultz, question is whether there is a God. #lrnchat
9:00:20 pm minutebio: RT @tmiket: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can collaborative content creation (wikis, googledocs) lead to new learning in organizations? #lrnchat
9:00:21 pm Dr_KG: Not hearing many people raving over GWave. What are your thoughts on it? #lrnchat
9:00:22 pm ThomasStone: Arriving to #lrnchat late tonight… hi all. Thomas Stone from Element K in Rochester, NY.
9:00:25 pm allonsdanser: @jadekaz I know I’ve watched some pretty poorly produced vids. Several times! :) #lrnchat
9:00:26 pm gminks: Q2 in fast moving orgs, wikis can help keep content up-to-date #lrnchat
9:00:28 pm roninchef: @tmiket It tends to lean more arty/insructional. I find myself spend a lot of time cruising the archives. #lrnchat
9:00:44 pm JaneBozarth: RT @jadekaz: Read that quality of video not a huge factor to students if content quality is excellent.That’s an inroad for Flip. #lrnchat
9:00:47 pm tmiket: Q2 Bring a wider perspective and knowledge base to the content being authored..more eyes & minds working on it #lrnchat
9:00:53 pm espnguyen: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can collaborative content creation (wikis, googledocs) lead to new learning in organizations? #lrnchat
9:00:55 pm stickylearning: RT @JaneBozarth YouTube once solved huge problem for me in less than an afternoon. Sometimes needs to be DONE, not perfect #lrnchat – Agree!
9:00:57 pm Mary_a_Myers: @shantarohse that’s fantastic…gonna have to start doing this too. #lrnchat
9:01:02 pm JaneBozarth: LOL RT @allonsdanser: @jadekaz I know I’ve watched some pretty poorly produced vids. Several times! :) #lrnchat
9:01:05 pm bschlenker: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can collaborative content creation (wikis, googledocs) lead to new learning in organizations? #lrnchat
9:01:07 pm magdaZINE: Seriously, bad audio can kill any project RT @jaycross: RT @hjarche: audio quality is more important than video #lrnchat
9:01:14 pm jadekaz: @atsc For the Flip? I agree – no external microphone connection really limits it. #lrnchat
9:01:18 pm jaycross: Q2 Learning is social, business is social, people are social. So collaboration is good. And productive. And necessary. #lrnchat
9:01:21 pm JaneBozarth: @Dr_KG I think Gwave is promising but needs work. #lrnchat
9:01:22 pm moehlert: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can collaborative content creation (wikis, googledocs) lead to new learning in organizations? #lrnchat
9:01:26 pm stickylearning: collaboration fosters innovation #lrnchat
9:01:26 pm Quinnovator: @mpetersell seriously, reckon can be handled by policy (see Scandinavian workplace approaches): how used etc, #lrnchat
9:01:27 pm shantarohse: I must have missed a few tweets from the flip RT @Mary_a_Myers: RT @jaycross: @J_Schultz, question is whether there is a God. #lrnchat
9:01:30 pm allonsdanser: @kasey428 Makes sense. When used internal in HR there are barriers: those not connected, etc. #lrnchat
9:01:35 pm mpetersell: Wikis allow capture and share informal learning – people love this in our Onboarding program. #lrnchat
9:01:58 pm LearningPutty: Q2) Content Creation tools provide ways to better share information across the enterprise. #lrnchat
9:02:00 pm Dr_KG: Why? RT @KoreenOlbrish …I brought my team onto Google Wave this week. Kicking and screaming :) #lrnchat
9:02:00 pm hjarche: online collaboration increases feedback loops and helps orgs deal with complex problems, for which training has no set answers #lrnchat
9:02:03 pm jaycross: RT @jadekaz: @atsc For the Flip? I agree – no external microphone connection really limits it. ||| All too true. The 1 drawback. #lrnchat
9:02:05 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can collaborative content creation (wikis, googledocs) lead to new learning in organizations? #lrnchat
9:02:10 pm atsc: Q2) on to wikis… Tricky one… #lrnchat
9:02:22 pm JaneBozarth: @KoreenOlbrish Learning song concept worked for Sesame Street. #lrnchat
9:02:23 pm Mary_a_Myers: I believe you are correct. RT @moehlert: @jaycross @J_Schultz #lrnchat Didn’t we answer that using the #whackamole Principle?
9:02:26 pm manishmo: Q2 – Can lead to discovering hidden talent within the organization #lrnchat
9:02:30 pm espnguyen: @Dr_KG There’s something there with GWave, but can’t put my finger on it yet. #lrnchat
9:02:37 pm J_Schulz: @ThomasStone I got here late too. Watch @jaycross, he seems a little snarky tonight. :-) #lrnchat
9:02:38 pm tonya_simmons: even in a small company, we use Googledocs to track things like tech support issues, how-to info and who’s bringin what to potluck #lrnchat
9:02:40 pm bschlenker: RT @jaycross: Q2 Learning is social, business is social, people are social. So collaboration is good. And productive necessary. #lrnchat
9:02:41 pm readtoday: We have created some corporate videos that are very high-impact messaging. #lrnchat
9:02:44 pm SuzNet: Q2 Power and wisdom of groups – everyone brings unique perspective to a problem #lrnchat
9:02:46 pm tmiket: @mpetersell Often the people know more/better than the “experts” collab authoring makes their knowledge visible to others #lrnchat
9:02:52 pm Quinnovator: Q2: by using to solve problems, create new solutions #lrnchat
9:02:53 pm Dr_KG: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can collaborative content creation (wikis, googledocs) lead to new learning in organizations? #lrnchat
9:02:57 pm jwillensky: Q2 Learners-as-creators can build a living resource. Who better than those who practice? #lrnchat
9:03:01 pm magdaZINE: Q2 this is a great question because I find getting employees to use wikis very difficult. Only a few take advantage of them #lrnchat
9:03:05 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) How can collaborative content creation (wikis, googledocs) lead to new learning in organizations? #lrnchat
9:03:08 pm jsuzcampos: Q2) Collaborative content creation unleashes the power of collective intelligence. Together we all know more. #lrnchat
9:03:12 pm kasey428: We developed 3 internal wikis in 2009. All used for contractor or employee ramp-up and collaboration. Wild about the wiki. #lrnchat
9:03:13 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Q2) How can it not?
9:03:14 pm jkmind: @JaneBozarth #lrnchat doesn’t it usually come down to the usefulness of the content and not the glitz?
9:03:15 pm manishmo: Joining for the first time. Manish Mohan, Element K India #lrnchat
9:03:17 pm jaycross: RT @manishmo: Q2 – Can lead to discovering hidden talent within the organization ||| Brilliant! #lrnchat
9:03:20 pm LearningPutty: Agreed. Perhaps new gadgets will help. RT @JaneBozarth: @Dr_KG I think Gwave is promising but needs work. #lrnchat
9:03:22 pm JaneBozarth: RT @hjarche:online collab. increases feedback loops, helps orgs deal with complex problems, for which training has no set answers #lrnchat
9:03:32 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q2. opportunities for open brainstorming, asynchronous collaboration is great for global knowledge/information sharing #lrnchat
9:03:38 pm Dr_KG: @Quinnovator Ahh, now we’re back to integrity and trust…. #lrnchat
9:03:41 pm Quinnovator: at 1 co.: not having exp. engineers fill out wiki, but younger ones, then old ones edit: better distribution of task, outcome #lrnchat
9:03:43 pm jadekaz: Q2) A difficult hurdle in knowledge sharing is time, especially with non-management employees/those with structured days. No time. #lrnchat
9:03:52 pm JaneBozarth: @hjarche And good evening Harold. #lrnchat
9:03:55 pm atsc: @jsuzcampos Collective dumbinance? #lrnchat
9:04:00 pm Schnicker: Q2: Collaboration starts conversations & ppl are accountable for their input #lrnchat
9:04:05 pm hjarche: @manishmo welcome to #lrnchat :-) #lrnchat
9:04:05 pm shantarohse: 2) Collab tools solve problems many of us didn’t know we had. #lrnchat
9:04:06 pm KoreenOlbrish: @manishmo welcome! thanks for joining #lrnchat
9:04:06 pm Dr_KG: Like? RT @JaneBozarth: @Dr_KG I think Gwave is promising but needs work. #lrnchat
9:04:06 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @stickylearning: collaboration fosters innovation #lrnchat
9:04:06 pm stickylearning: RT @jsuzcampos Q2) Collaborative content creation unleashes the power of collective intelligence. Together we all know more. #lrnchat
9:04:13 pm bschlenker: @readtoday Let me rephrase – EXCELLENT QUALITY for a “dirt cheap” price! It IS possible #lrnchat
9:04:16 pm jaycross: collaborative content creation=build on others’ ideas, stop re-inventing the wheel, get best & brightest #lrnchat
9:04:19 pm TerrenceWing: Q2) Collaboration = shared ownership = commitment to success = ROI #lrnchat
9:04:27 pm JaneBozarth: Wait a minute let me come up with a bunch of objections..hold on.. #lrnchat Hey! Maybe that should be the drinking game!
9:04:28 pm espnguyen: Q2) First hurdle I’ve faced is getting people to change from what they’re used to…word, excel, powerpoint (Drink!) #lrnchat
9:04:37 pm hjarche: @JaneBozarth Howdy Jane – got any snow down there? #lrnchat
9:04:42 pm mpetersell: @tmiket Agreed – our new hires bring and create new knowledge #lrnchat
9:04:43 pm tmiket: @jadekaz Totally agree that knowledge sharing must be easy/frictionless enough to do in normal workflow Otherwise its “Extra” work #lrnchat
9:04:43 pm LearningPutty: RT @jaycross: RT @manishmo: Q2 – Can lead to discovering hidden talent within the organization ||| Brilliant! #lrnchat
9:04:44 pm manishmo: Q2 – Can lead to collaboration across groups that normally don’t interact with each other #lrnchat
9:04:48 pm Quinnovator: if you don’t have the culture right: if you build it, they may not come RT @moehlert: #lrnchat Q2) How can it not?
9:04:50 pm roninchef: @Dr_KG My team sat in a room taking notes for a project. Then sat in another room combining those notes. Wave is collaboration. #lrnchat
9:04:57 pm kelly_smith01: Q2)Sharing of experience employees had with different clients, products/services, countries, industries… #lrnchat
9:05:00 pm readtoday: RT@jadekaz Q2) A difficult hurdle in knowledge sharing is time, especially with non-management employees/No time. #lrnchat
9:05:05 pm Dr_KG: RT @magdaZINE: Seriously, bad audio can kill any project RT @jaycross: RT @hjarche: audio quality is more important than video #lrnchat
9:05:05 pm jaycross: RT @TerrenceWing: Q2) Collaboration = shared ownership = commitment to success = ROI ||| Worth a drink, that. #lrnchat
9:05:11 pm shantarohse: RT @TerrenceWing: Collaboration = shared ownership = commitment to success = ROI #lrnchat
9:05:13 pm littleasklab: When deploying SoMe tools, need an engagement strategy with the learning design to folks generate content #lrnchat
9:05:24 pm JaneBozarth: RT @manishmo: Q2 – Can lead to discovering hidden talent within the organization ||| Brilliant! #lrnchat
9:05:26 pm rpannoni: In the long run, collab content is self-correcting. But in the short run, there is risk of a wrong answer. #lrnchat
9:05:27 pm kasey428: Employees respond to newbie questions & encouraged to act as mentors thru wiki. #lrnchat
9:05:37 pm readtoday: @Schnicker Well designed educational videos can save time. It is on demand. Folks do it from anywhere #lrnchat
9:05:37 pm ThomasStone: Yes, a big welcome to my colleague Manish! RT @hjarche: @manishmo welcome to #lrnchat :-)
9:05:45 pm atsc: @jadekaz Yes time is a problem… Hen ce why our wikis are disused… Also must integrate in with workflow… #lrnchat
9:05:45 pm minutebio: Q2) I like Wikis for Know Sharing, but always fear from mgt on misinformation. Sometimes oppty to correct thse already misinformed #lrnchat
9:05:49 pm hjarche: RT @tmiket: @jadekaz Totally agree that knowledge sharing must be easy enough to do in normal workflow Otherwise its “Extra” work #lrnchat
9:05:53 pm gminks: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q2. opportunities for open brainstorming, asynchronous collaboration grt for global knowledge/info sharing #lrnchat
9:05:56 pm allonsdanser: #lrnchat I’m at branch campus library. Trying out Wave with main camp librarians to work on projects. I’m learning about their job…
9:05:58 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) Its also that Subject Matter Networks tool. #lrnchat
9:06:02 pm Quinnovator: RT @Dr_KG: @Quinnovator Ahh, now we’re back to integrity and trust…. #lrnchat << absolutely!
9:06:10 pm espnguyen: RT @rpannoni: In the long run, collab content is self-correcting. But in the short run, there is risk of a wrong answer. #lrnchat
9:06:12 pm kasey428: RT @TerrenceWing: Q2) Collaboration = shared ownership = commitment to success = ROI #lrnchat
9:06:19 pm Dr_KG: Finding right tool criticalRT @magdaZINE: Q2 find getting employees to use wikis very difficult. Only a few take advantage of them #lrnchat
9:06:19 pm readtoday: Especially with new video pod capabilities. Design is the key factor. #lrnchat
9:06:32 pm moehlert: @Quinnovator #lrnchat The tools, if available, will change the culture – we anthros have a diff time scope ;-)
9:06:39 pm readtoday: RT @bschlenker: @readtoday Let me rephrase – EXCELLENT QUALITY for a “dirt cheap” price! It IS possible #lrnchat
9:06:43 pm JaneBozarth: @hjarche You kidding? I had top down on convertible yesterday afternoon. Al the Weather went elsewhere. #lrnchat
9:06:48 pm tmiket: @rpannoni But risk is LESS than not doing it collaboratively #lrnchat
9:06:55 pm jsuzcampos: @roninchef @Dr_KG Ever seen someone write on a smartboard, then take a polaroid of it, then transcribe it into a Word doc? I have. #lrnchat
9:07:00 pm jadekaz: @atsc Oh, yes. And factor in the time it takes to find the new content using the new “wiki” tool. “Where did I find that?” #lrnchat
9:07:01 pm manishmo: Thx folks. Good to be here finally @ThomasStone @KoreenOlbrish @hjarche #lrnchat
9:07:02 pm KoreenOlbrish: (preparing to be argued with) i’m not sure i think collaboration tools are always the best learning tools… #lrnchat
9:07:09 pm atsc: @Dr_KG Agreed. Do you find these people are the technically literate ones??? #lrnchat
9:07:12 pm readtoday: @bschlenker Let me rephrase. I hire film people in my business and you get what you pay for;-) #lrnchat
9:07:13 pm tmiket: RT @readtoday: RT @bschlenker: @readtoday Let me rephrase – EXCELLENT QUALITY for a “dirt cheap” price! It IS possible #lrnchat
9:07:14 pm gminks: @JaneBozarth sounds like Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney OBJECTION! #lrnchat
9:07:15 pm jaycross: Is #lrnchat itself collaborative? Or a hundred monkeys typing? #lrnchat
9:07:24 pm Quinnovator: creating a BoK via Wiki (Body of Knowledge), as an community endeavor #lrnchat
9:07:26 pm allonsdanser: RT @hjarche: online collab increases fdback loops and helps orgs deal with complex problems, for which training has no set answers #lrnchat
9:07:29 pm Dr_KG: Q2: has to be a clear reason to employ it; otherwise, ppl will see it as a burdensome something else to do. #lrnchat
9:07:30 pm LearningPutty: Q2) Content Creation tools provide common resource – 1 source reduces duplication and incorrect translation (i.e. “telephone game”) #lrnchat
9:07:38 pm Mary_a_Myers: seems embedding in the workflow is key. #lrnchat
9:07:44 pm JaneBozarth: @Dr_KG Interface too confusing, hard to learn to use, for 2 #lrnchat
9:07:51 pm atsc: Most wikis I’ve used are poorly designed UI wise… And limited editing tools etc…. A problem for newbies… #lrnchat
9:07:53 pm Quinnovator: RT @jaycross: Is #lrnchat itself collaborative? Or a hundred monkeys typing? #lrnchat << depends on your perspective, eh?
9:07:56 pm kelly_smith01: RT @jaycross: Is #lrnchat itself collaborative? Or a hundred monkeys typing? #lrnchat
9:07:57 pm tonnet: #lrnchat
9:07:58 pm tmiket: @KoreenOlbrish I won’t argue I dont’ think collaboration necessarily = learning #lrnchat
9:08:14 pm ThomasStone: Our use of wikis at Element K for three years is not unique: used for large, organic knowledge bases, much better than prev. KBs #lrnchat
9:08:16 pm LearningPutty: Sorry, but always have to side with monkeys. ;) RT @jaycross: Is #lrnchat itself collaborative? Or a hundred monkeys typing? #lrnchat
9:08:19 pm Dr_KG: @jsuzcampos Yeah, I’ve done it myself. :-) #lrnchat
9:08:24 pm JaneBozarth: @jkmind Yes, that’s why I don’t care about perfection/glitz. The fact that it’s expensive doesn’t mean it’s any good #lrnchat
9:08:31 pm rpannoni: Hmm. Thinking about this. RT @tmiket: But risk is LESS than not doing it collaboratively #lrnchat
9:08:38 pm hybridkris: @KoreenOlbrish I agree with that. The group has to want to invest. #lrnchat
9:08:39 pm bschlenker: RT @Mary_a_Myers: seems embedding in the workflow is key < funny! #lrnchat
9:16:46 pm CathyLAnderson: RT @Mary_a_Myers: i feel like the “lifers” know we’re coming for them…it’s all a bit awkward. #lrnchat
9:16:46 pm hjarche: Q3) Whats your wishlist for what inperson conferences do to take advantage of social media? | @moehlert as host! #lrnchat
9:16:47 pm Quinnovator: @LearningPutty disagree: assuming learners are good at improving their skills on own is not doing your job (scaffold informal) #lrnchat
9:16:47 pm jaycross: RT @Schnicker: RT @lrnchat: Q3) Whats your wishlist for what inperson conferences do to take advantage of social media? #lrnchat
9:16:54 pm espnguyen: Can someone please help me convince my org that MOSS 2007 wiki is not a good enterprise wiki? #lrnchat
9:16:58 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What’s your wishlist for what inperson conferences do to take advantage of social media? #lrnchat
9:16:59 pm atsc: Q3) Ban twitter… #lrnchat
9:17:00 pm NahumG: RT @moehlert RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can media sharing tools like YouTube &internal counterparts change face of corporation education? #lrnchat
9:17:09 pm moehlert: @Dr_KG @KoreenOlbrish #lrnchat first-hand knowledge of tool capabilities for one
9:17:12 pm JaneBozarth: @roninchef Yes but then they also say cost = bad. So free= bad. Cost = bad. Hmm. Maybe real issue lies elsewhere? #lrnchat
9:17:14 pm allisunelearns: Q3. I really liked the zombie team building activities DevLearn had; would be great to have something similar as a standard. #lrnchat
9:17:22 pm stickylearning: Q3) read Cliff Atkinson’s “The BackChannel” – along with presenters too! #lrnchat
9:17:23 pm jaycross: RT @kasey428: RT @jaycross: Q3 SoMe can bring hallway into hotel room. May not be a good idea…> funny! ||| Unless it’s YOUR room #lrnchat
9:17:31 pm TerrenceWing: Q3) It’s like Christmas the wish list thing. Naughty or nice #lrnchat
9:17:33 pm tmiket: Me too! RT @espnguyen: Can someone please help me convince my org that MOSS 2007 wiki is not a good enterprise wiki? #lrnchat
9:17:46 pm LearningPutty: Not sometimes… SoMe needs to be prjt mngd like other lrng. RT @kelly_smith01: Sometimes there may be a need for a Wiki moderator. #lrnchat
9:17:54 pm JaneBozarth: You can spend lots of $$ developing dreadful training, vids, etc. #lrnchat
9:17:55 pm manishmo: RT @LearningPutty: Informal lrng is not lrng- its just doing ur job. #lrnchat
9:17:59 pm Quinnovator: @kasey428 yes, don’t assume good social learning skills: make explicit and facilitate! #lrnchat
9:18:22 pm LearningPutty: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What’s your wishlist for what inperson conferences do to take advantage of social media? #lrnchat
9:18:23 pm hjarche: @espnguyen did a study a while back & research showed Confluence one of the best enterprise wikis #lrnchat
9:18:24 pm jadekaz: Q3) Get the presenters up to speed, so they can do follow up Q&A on Twitter. #lrnchat
9:18:36 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @allisunelearns: Q3. I really liked the zombie team building activities #DL09 had; would be great as a standard. #lrnchat
9:18:39 pm tmiket: Q3 Providing common set of tags/hashtags for everyone to follow on various platforms #lrnchat
9:18:43 pm kelly_smith01: RT @allisunelearns: Q3. Liked the zombie team building activities @DevLearn; would B great to have something similar as a standard. #lrnchat
9:19:03 pm Quinnovator: Q3: blended: prep/questions before; social augment during, takeaway actions and followup after #lrnchat
9:19:04 pm JaneBozarth: @learningputty @kelly_smith01 There is perception that wiki, “community” etc will just sustain itself #lrnchat
9:19:04 pm jaycross: RT @manishmo: RT @LearningPutty: Informal lrng is not lrng- its just doing ur job. ||| Uh, I have a book for you to read. #lrnchat
9:19:11 pm espnguyen: @hjarche Totally agree and we are using it. But powers that be are shutting it down in favor of MOSS. Bleh. #lrnchat
9:19:32 pm moehlert: RT @atsc: Q3) Ban twitter… #lrnchat Errrrrr?!
9:19:35 pm PearlFlipper: @roninchef, charge them as you train them to use the free stuff, then they’ll value it! #lrnchat
9:19:43 pm LearningPutty: @Quinnovator my point was our lrners don’t see their “informal lrng” as lrng – they see it as just don’t their job. #lrnchat
9:19:48 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) Are break-out sessions (in a chat room) possible as in Virtual Classroom #lrnchat
9:19:49 pm mpetersell: #zombie could be the new hot topic #lrnchat
9:19:52 pm J_Schulz: I liked @mrch0mp3rs and @moehlert’s efforts to use SoMe to prep people prior to their DevLearn sessions. #lrnchat
9:19:56 pm shantarohse: Learned this the hard way RT @Quinnovator: @kasey428 yes, dont assume good social learning skills: make explicit and facilitate! #lrnchat
9:20:00 pm jadekaz: Q3) Do any “icebreaker” via Twitter so that I don’t actually have to interface with live people. (Just kidding!) #lrnchat
9:20:06 pm moehlert: @tmiket @espnguyen #lrnchat Oh Sheesh! Send them to SocialText!!
9:20:09 pm PearlFlipper: Agree @Quinnovator: Q3: blended: prep/questions before; social augment during, takeaway actions and followup after #lrnchat
9:20:11 pm TerrenceWing: Q3) Include SoMe into pop sessions. Twitter streams during keynotes. ? pulled from streams. Bring back chan forward #lrnchat
9:20:16 pm Dr_KG: @moehlert Knowl of tool cap goes without saying. What else? #lrnchat
9:20:25 pm tmiket: re: wikis they defintely need to have a ‘gardener’ to pull the weeds, etc #lrnchat
9:20:30 pm moehlert: RT @KoreenOlbrish: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What’s your wishlist for what inperson conferences do to take advantage of social media? #lrnchat
9:20:34 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @J_Schulz: I liked @mrch0mp3rs and @moehlert’s efforts to use SoMe to prep people prior to their DevLearn sessions. #lrnchat
9:20:38 pm PearlFlipper: Yes! RT @tmiket: Q3 Providing common set of tags/hashtags for everyone to follow on various platforms #lrnchat
9:20:39 pm ThomasStone: Q3: I consider social networking profiles for in-person conferences a must. None do this better than the last few Learning 200X #lrnchat
9:20:43 pm edwsonoma: RT @J_Schulz: I liked @mrch0mp3rs and @moehlert’s efforts to use SoMe to prep people prior to their DevLearn sessions. #lrnchat
9:20:50 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q3. my conf wishlist: wifi, outlets, twitter IDs on badges, hashtag standard, organized tweetups based on interests… #lrnchat
9:20:51 pm JaneBozarth: @LearningPutty PPl rarely see learning as “learning”, and don’t define themselves as “learners” #lrnchat
9:20:52 pm moehlert: @bschlenker #lrnchat …and that’s when a single shot rang out….
9:20:57 pm J_Schulz: It was a great way to take care of the basics, understand what people expected, and build community. #lrnchat
9:21:00 pm PearlFlipper: #lrnchat I want that job. Wiki weeder.
9:21:00 pm Dr_KG: RT @tmiket: Q3 Providing common set of tags/hashtags for everyone to follow on various platforms #lrnchat
9:21:09 pm MariaOD: RT @PearlFlipper: Agree with Jane! It’s not about the money. It’s about how creatively you can apply what’s already available. #lrnchat
9:21:12 pm jaycross: “How do I know that everything expressed here is reliable? Where’s the proof?” #lrnchat
9:21:26 pm Dr_KG: RT @Quinnovator: Q3: blended: prep/questions before; social augment during, takeaway actions and followup after #lrnchat
9:21:39 pm roninchef: @JaneBozarth I think in many ways we are on the cusp of moving past brand names and using tools that work best for the job. #lrnchat
9:21:39 pm edwsonoma: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q3. my conf wishlist: wifi, outlets, twitter IDs on badges, hashtag standard, organized tweetups… #lrnchat
9:21:40 pm tmiket: @moehlert Would love to be able to go with Social Text…still trying but IT is in love with Sharepoint #lrnchat
9:21:42 pm PearlFlipper: Yes, I’d like to learn more about zombie. RT@mpetersell: #zombie could be the new hot topic #lrnchat
9:21:50 pm hjarche: Q3) the least conferences can do is establish common tags (in advance) for tweets, blogs, etc #lrnchat
9:21:58 pm moehlert: @hjarche #lrnchat um, thanks! And I think I just got REAL busy :-)
9:22:05 pm JaneBozarth: Q3: Conf wishlist: WIRELESS EVERYWHERE! #lrnchat
9:22:05 pm jaycross: BTW, I found @moehlert sessions at DevLearn outstanding. Need more like that. #lrnchat
9:22:07 pm Dr_KG: Hehe! Yes!! RT @tmiket: re: wikis they defintely need to have a ‘gardener’ to pull the weeds, etc #lrnchat
9:22:09 pm littleasklab: @LearningPutty: Not sometimes… SoMe needs to be prjt mngd… and it needs an engagement strategy #lrnchat
9:22:16 pm rpannoni: It’s not ;-) RT @jaycross: “How do I know that everything expressed here is reliable? Where’s the proof?” #lrnchat
9:22:16 pm ThomasStone: @kasey428 I recommend w/ wikis having “informal owners” for most pages. This is a big disincentive for inappropriate edits. #lrnchat
9:22:21 pm LearningPutty: Exactly. RT @JaneBozarth: @LearningPutty PPl rarely see learning as “learning”, and don’t define themselves as “learners” #lrnchat
9:22:26 pm jadekaz: But will #zombie take over #bacon? #lrnchat
9:22:30 pm JaneBozarth: @roninchef I hope.. #lrnchat
9:22:33 pm moehlert: @Mary_a_Myers @J_Schulz @mrch0mp3rs #lrnchat Embrace and extend.
9:22:38 pm jaycross: PowerPoint is tyranny. SharePoint is Stalinism. #lrnchat
9:22:41 pm gminks: RT @hjarche: Q3) the least conferences can do is establish common tags (in advance) for tweets, blogs, etc #lrnchat
9:22:42 pm Quinnovator: btw, @hamtra did a great post-conference book of DevLearn Tweets http://bit.ly/5QOYBM #lrnchat
9:22:43 pm tmiket: Q3 Anything that facilitates conversations before, during & after the conference #lrnchat
9:22:53 pm Mary_a_Myers: Q3) i agree with list from @koreenolbrish and the zombies were amazing! #lrnchat
9:23:02 pm kelly_smith01: RT @jaycross: PowerPoint is tyranny. SharePoint is Stalinism. #lrnchat
9:23:06 pm PearlFlipper: Who cares! Even if not may prompt ideas. RT @jaycross: “How do I know everything expressed here is reliable? Wheres the proof?” #lrnchat
9:23:07 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q3. wishlist cont…ARGs, social networking before, during & after conf…and #zombies #lrnchat
9:23:10 pm tmiket: RT @jaycross: PowerPoint is tyranny. SharePoint is Stalinism. #lrnchat
9:23:11 pm mpetersell: @jadekaz #zombie vs. #bacon LOL #lrnchat
9:23:11 pm kasey428: @ThomasStone Upper mgt. has the final say…as always. #lrnchat
9:23:14 pm MariaOD: @tmiket What do you like about Social Text? #lrnchat I will check that out!
9:23:16 pm marciamarcia: Delighted to return home after a long day of travel to see people #lrnchat tttering away, about social media & learning
9:23:16 pm moehlert: @KoreenOlbrish #lrnchat …What she said.
9:23:17 pm jaycross: RT @tmiket: Q3 Anything that facilitates conversations before, during & after the conference #lrnchat
9:23:17 pm Dr_KG: Q3: Would like to see some follow-up to meaningful topics resulting from social media use at in person conf. #lrnchat
9:23:18 pm kelly_smith01: RT @hjarche: Q3) the least conferences can do is establish common tags (in advance) for tweets, blogs, etc #lrnchat
9:23:22 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @jaycross: PowerPoint is tyranny. SharePoint is Stalinism. #lrnchat
9:23:25 pm Mary_a_Myers: @moehlert was that a hug? #lrnchat
9:23:27 pm espnguyen: Q3) RFID in badges that alert me when people close to me have similar interests #lrnchat
9:23:31 pm roninchef: @PearlFlipper That is one way to monetize Open Source. Some people have a hard time with self directed learning so a class works. #lrnchat
9:23:31 pm PearlFlipper: Yeeeessss. RT @tmiket: Q3 Anything that facilitates conversations before, during & after the conference #lrnchat
9:23:33 pm elatedca: Q3) one wish is ensuring enough WiFi; the last major training conf here was communications quicksand #lrnchat
9:23:37 pm allonsdanser: RT @tmiket: Q3 Providing common set of tags/hashtags for everyone to follow on various platforms #lrnchat Yep! Important!
9:23:39 pm hjarche: RT @jaycross: PowerPoint is tyranny. SharePoint is Stalinism. | LMS is fascism #lrnchat
9:23:44 pm dennisschleiche: #lrnchat large screen monitor display of the twitter feeds
9:23:44 pm Quinnovator: @LearningPutty Yes, but shift learner attitude, informal is: 1) important, 2) supported, 3) scaffolded, 4) valued #lrnchat
9:23:51 pm Mary_a_Myers: bacon-eating zombies #lrnchat
9:23:56 pm nancyrubin: role of content strategist as digital curator – http://www.alistapart.com/articles/content-strategist-as-digital-curator #lrnchat
9:23:58 pm PearlFlipper: RT@gminks: RT @hjarche: Q3) the least conferences can do is establish common tags (in advance) for tweets, blogs, etc #lrnchat
9:24:09 pm moehlert: @tmiket #lrnchat S’ok. Tell them Social Text works right with and alongside Scarepoint
9:24:16 pm ThomasStone: Another wiki tip: SEED with lots of existing content people need to access. This will lead to use and eventually comfort #lrnchat
9:24:21 pm lrnchat: Q4) What are all of the ways people find subject matter experts today? How will that change ahead? #lrnchat
9:24:23 pm Dr_KG: Q3: A multimedia Social Media plan. #lrnchat
9:24:30 pm LearningPutty: Q3) In person conferences should use twitter (et. al.) to engage the audience instead of just using the verbal vomit method. #lrnchat
9:24:35 pm allonsdanser: @jaycross What’s the book? re: informal lrng? #lrnchat
9:24:36 pm mpetersell: @Quinnovator uh oh scaffolding gets people crazy here. #lrnchat
9:24:37 pm roninchef: @JaneBozarth Me too. But at the rate things are going, Open Source can’t help but gain momentum. #lrnchat
9:24:39 pm moehlert: @PearlFlipper @mpetersell #lrnchat What about Zombie #whackamoles?
9:24:47 pm Quinnovator: so what’s benevolent dictatorship? RT @jaycross: PowerPoint is tyranny. SharePoint is Stalinism. #lrnchat
9:24:49 pm edwsonoma: #lrnchat @jaycross, @C4ltp, @@charlesjennings and @hjarche did a nice job with SoMe at #oeb2009 last week
9:24:52 pm PearlFlipper: Yes, it gets the late adopters curious! RT@dennisschleiche: #lrnchat large screen monitor display of the twitter feeds
9:24:59 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What are all of the ways people find subject matter experts today? How will that change ahead? #lrnchat
9:25:00 pm mpetersell: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What are all of the ways people find subject matter experts today? How will that change ahead? #lrnchat
9:25:01 pm stickylearning: RT @Quinnovator @LearningPutty Yes, but shift learner attitude, informal is: 1) important, 2) supported, 3) scaffolded, 4) valued #lrnchat
9:25:05 pm ThomasStone: Three years ago we ported 200+ docs from six portals/databases to one wiki. Heavy use ever since, and organic growth galore. #lrnchat
9:25:07 pm espnguyen: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What are all of the ways people find subject matter experts today? How will that change ahead? #lrnchat
9:25:07 pm kasey428: Those who tweet at conferences can bring the conference in real time to co-workers unable to attend. #lrnchat
9:25:08 pm moehlert: @jaycross #lrnchat Gracias Senor.
9:25:10 pm Mary_a_Myers: Q4) twitter and/or lrnchat #lrnchat
9:25:10 pm shantarohse: But especially after. @tmiket: Q3 Anything that facilitates conversations before, during & after the conference #lrnchat
9:25:11 pm neilstephenson: our school is working on PD plan focused on student learning, not tchr teaching. #lrnchat http://bit.ly/KeXj7
9:25:15 pm jaycross: Q4. Don’t need no SMEs. Need subject matter networks instead. #lrnchat
9:25:18 pm jadekaz: @nancyrubin I like “content strategist,” that was one of my main duties when I did intranet. Never formally said it as well as that #lrnchat
9:25:18 pm hjarche: Q4) are tomorrow’s SME’s today’s customers? #lrnchat
9:25:24 pm tmiket: @ThomasStone Wiki success = Seeding & Weeding @janebozarth can we get a song for that too? #lrnchat
9:25:26 pm PearlFlipper: You’re watching too much TED lol RT @espnguyen: Q3) RFID in badges that alert me when people close to me have similar interests #lrnchat
9:25:29 pm J_Schulz: Not sure many conferences have the same level of Twitter traffic as DevLearn, but the tweetbook is a nice aggregation. #lrnchat
9:25:29 pm nancyrubin: Q4) SMEs present themselves in the Web2.0 space through blogs, wikis, twitter, linkedin #lrnchat
9:25:31 pm Dr_KG: Q3: How many times have you read tweets, from those who couldn’t attend, begging for some visual of the in person conf? #lrnchat
9:25:37 pm LearningPutty: @Quinnovator not saying that it isn’t – just saying that most ppl we consider lrng informally wouldn’t say they are “lrners” #lrnchat
9:25:37 pm Quinnovator: Yep, baseline RT @elatedca: Q3) one wish is ensuring enough WiFi; the last major training conf here was communications quicksand #lrnchat
9:25:40 pm KoreenOlbrish: Moodle RT @Quinnovator: so what’s benevolent dictatorship? RT @jaycross: PowerPoint is tyranny. SharePoint is Stalinism. #lrnchat
9:25:45 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator Flip chart. #lrnchat
9:25:58 pm leadmusicpic: Q4) will twitter and lrnchat take over google or wiki’s #lrnchat
9:26:00 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) Love an opportunity to attend a DevLearn session or two the virtual way. #lrnchat
9:26:01 pm moehlert: @Mary_a_Myers #lrnchat That or a well-orchestrated pincher manuever ;-)
9:26:03 pm roninchef: Q4 Can a community be a SME? #lrnchat
9:26:03 pm jaycross: @moehlert De nada. Well deserved. #lrnchat
9:26:12 pm PearlFlipper: Influence upper management by challenging them to play in it, not scoff at it. #lrnchat
9:26:12 pm allonsdanser: RT @J_Schulz: I liked @mrch0mp3rs and @moehlert’s efforts to use SoMe to prep people prior to their DevLearn sessions. #lrnchat /using what?
9:26:18 pm LearningPutty: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What are all of the ways people find subject matter experts today? How will that change ahead? #lrnchat
9:26:20 pm stickylearning: RT Keynote! @Quinnovator so what’s benevolent dictatorship? RT @jaycross: PowerPoint is tyranny. SharePoint is Stalinism. #lrnchat
9:26:22 pm elatedca: @JaneBozarth it incorporated recent SoMe data points from Conference Board of Canada, & other sources; will post it later #lrnchat
9:26:25 pm Dr_KG: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What are all of the ways people find subject matter experts today? How will that change ahead? #lrnchat
9:26:28 pm JaneBozarth: @roninchef My point was, ppl have learned that $$ is a convenient excuse. First line of resistance, can end conversation there. #lrnchat
9:26:30 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What are all of the ways people find subject matter experts today? How will that change ahead? #lrnchat
9:26:36 pm Quinnovator: @mpetersell let’s see, job description: “make people crazy”. Check. #lrnchat
9:26:36 pm Schnicker: RT @jaycross: Q4. Don’t need no SMEs. Need subject matter networks instead. #lrnchat
9:26:41 pm moehlert: RT @jaycross: PowerPoint is tyranny. SharePoint is Stalinism. #lrnchat
9:26:44 pm mpetersell: SMEs are easier to find thru SoMe than they are inside my own company #lrnchat
9:27:09 pm Quinnovator: @allonsdanser Um author Jay Cross, title Informal Learning. Pfeiffer. #lrnchat
9:27:12 pm PearlFlipper: True, I went to a CU Summit event, and no wifi – really?! #lrnchat
9:27:13 pm mpetersell: RT @Quinnovator: @mpetersell let’s see, job description: “make people crazy”. Check. #lrnchat LOL
9:27:14 pm espnguyen: @PearlFlipper Ha! Yeah TED vids tend to make on a bit jaded, huh. #lrnchat
9:27:15 pm KoreenOlbrish: If @moehlert had a $1 for every time someone quoted him ;) RT @jaycross: Q4. Don’t need no SMEs. Need subject matter networks #lrnchat
9:27:18 pm dennisschleiche: @PearlFlipper #lrnchat Yep, hold up the behavior you want others to emulate
9:27:22 pm JaneBozarth: Me too RT mpetersell SMEs are easier to find thru SoMe than they are inside my own company #lrnchat
9:27:42 pm Steli: RT @moehlert RT @jaycross: PowerPoint is tyranny. SharePoint is Stalinism. #lrnchat
9:27:42 pm MLx: http://twitpic.com/t02ch – meant to #lrnchat but am working on the tree. It’s HUGE.
9:27:44 pm tmiket: @mpetersell Agreed. re: SoMe externally vs internally #lrnchat
9:27:49 pm kasey428: RT @jaycross: Q4. Dont need no SMEs. Need subject matter networks instead.>Where have I read this b4? #lrnchat
9:27:49 pm LearningPutty: Q4) The connection tools that SharePoint offers will be one way. #lrnchat
9:27:52 pm busynessgirl: Missed #lrnchat tonight. Dealing with expensive basement water issues. Ugh.
9:27:56 pm allonsdanser: RT @ThomasStone: Q3: I consider SoMe profiles for in-person conferences a must. None do this better than the last few Learning 200X #lrnchat
9:28:00 pm nancyrubin: How do you hire a subject matter network? #lrnchat
9:28:21 pm littleasklab: RT @jaycross: Q4. Don’t need no SMEs. Need subject matter networks instead. #lrnchat
9:28:26 pm neilstephenson: I love the idea of subject matter networks.. help me to design and build liberating constraints #lrnchat http://bit.ly/6U4VqA
9:28:29 pm jadekaz: People can spot a SME a mile away. “Just go to so-and-so, she knows everything.” SoMe might not change how we find them. #lrnchat
9:28:34 pm Mary_a_Myers: @MLx nice tree! those lights are really, really bright! #lrnchat
9:28:37 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What are all of the ways people find subject matter experts today? How will that change ahead? #lrnchat
9:28:37 pm moehlert: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What are all of the ways people find subject matter experts today? How will that change ahead? #lrnchat
9:28:39 pm Schnicker: @tmiket wow – looks awesome too!! #lrnchat
9:28:42 pm espnguyen: You hire the right person RT @nancyrubin: How do you hire a subject matter network? #lrnchat
9:28:44 pm roninchef: @JaneBozarth That is when actual users of OS tend to wow people. #lrnchat
9:28:44 pm JaneBozarth: I am now working on “Seeding Weeding Wiki” song and will post to blip and YouTube later. Don’t expect perfection. #lrnchat
9:28:45 pm manishmo: External SMEs always have more time for you than internal SMEs #lrnchat
9:28:46 pm gminks: no one has mentioned ROI. Prove how all of this SoMe stuff affects the bottom line & they’ll beg you to do it #lrnchat
9:28:46 pm PearlFlipper: Good idea! Each presenter 2 have a virtual space & bio so we can click & learn if we find them interesting -if RFID tags don’t work #lrnchat
9:28:54 pm allonsdanser: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q3. my conf wishlist: wifi, outlets, twitter IDs on badges, hashtag standard, organized tweetups re interests… #lrnchat
9:28:58 pm jaycross: RT @kasey428: RT @jaycross: Q4. Need subject matter networks instead.>Where have I read this b4? | Mark, at DevLearn #lrnchat
9:29:04 pm leadmusicpic: @nancyrubin will that be another social media site? #lrnchat
9:29:07 pm ThomasStone: yes: seed, weed, and prune RT @tmiket: re: wikis they defintely need to have a ‘gardener’ to pull the weeds, etc #lrnchat
9:29:08 pm kasey428: Those who tweet at conferences can bring the conference in real time to co-workers unable to attend. #lrnchat (re-post) #lrnchat
9:29:13 pm allisunelearns: RT @nancyrubin: How do you hire a subject matter network? #lrnchat
9:29:20 pm Quinnovator: @LearningPutty another target for ‘reeducation camp’ #lrnchat
9:29:24 pm tmiket: @nancyrubin To get SoMe network Be very nice to them and help them with their problems and get that in return #lrnchat
9:29:29 pm espnguyen: Thank you to @moehlert for coining Subject Matter Networks. So true and I came back from #dl09 with one #lrnchat
9:29:30 pm Dr_KG: @roninchef Perhaps the cmty overall is a SME with varying degrees of expertise among its individual members? #lrnchat
9:29:32 pm Steli: We just announced the Educators 2.0 Summit 2010 – let me know if you’re interested in participating :) http://bit.ly/8yiDsW #lrnchat
9:29:35 pm LearningPutty: Q4) Training Departments need to assist in the creation of personal learning networks for employees – help find right connections. #lrnchat
9:29:35 pm PearlFlipper: RT @jadekaz: People can spot a SME a mile away. “Just go 2 so-and-so, she knows everything.SoMe might not change how we find em. #lrnchat
9:29:40 pm jadekaz: Q) SoMe might change where SME content is found. But word of mouth remains the same. Just different tools. #lrnchat
9:29:42 pm Schnicker: @tmiket oops – that was not meant to go to you :o ) #lrnchat
9:29:42 pm jkmind: @KoreenOlbrish #lrnchat hear hear Koreen.
9:29:52 pm neilstephenson: instead of asking how we find experts – how to embed them into meangingful, rich studies, so students are building knowledge? #lrnchat
9:30:05 pm JaneBozarth: @roninchef You know about my first book, right? #lrnchat
9:30:16 pm J_Schulz: @allonsdanser @mrch0mp3rs used a blog site (WordPress?) and @moehlert used a different type of collab site – can recall name. #lrnchat
9:30:17 pm kelly_smith01: Q4)With SoMe you build a virtual Subject Matter Networks (SMNs). Sorry I just like that term & the idea. #lrnchat
9:30:22 pm littleasklab: @nancyrubin like content strategist but think it needs to include community mgr role, too #lrnchat
9:30:24 pm kasey428: You guys r my social media network. #lrnchat
9:30:24 pm jaycross: RT @Dr_KG: @roninchef Perhaps cmty overall is a SME with varying degrees of expertise among its individual members? || That’s SMN #lrnchat
9:30:44 pm Dr_KG: Q4: Some ppl create an illusion of being SMEs. Ppl can find them all over the Inet. #lrnchat
9:30:47 pm espnguyen: @Schnicker Did you just commit a #lrnchat foul? DRINK!
9:30:49 pm JaneBozarth: Better question: How do we help our learners (sorry, Jay, workers) find the people they need to find? Where’s our role in that? #lrnchat
9:30:54 pm tmiket: @Schnicker Oh darn. I was so wanting an awesome…maybe someday 8-) #lrnchat
9:30:55 pm ThomasStone: YES! silly not to RT @hjarche: Q3) the least conferences can do is establish common tags (in advance) for tweets, blogs, etc #lrnchat
9:31:02 pm mpetersell: RT @LearningPutty: Q4) Training Departments need to assist in the creation of personal learning networks – we do thru SharePoint #lrnchat
9:31:05 pm PearlFlipper: Can’t wait! @JaneBozarth: now working on “Seeding Weeding Wiki” song & will post 2blip &YouTube later. Dont expect perfection. #lrnchat
9:31:15 pm LearningPutty: ???? RT @Quinnovator: @LearningPutty another target for ‘reeducation camp’ #lrnchat
9:31:27 pm neilstephenson: too many online cmtys are tech focused, not subjec. Tech will never help us teach better – only support good subject based learning #lrnchat
9:31:31 pm nancyrubin: @littleasklab the article has a few important roles – it puts a lot of importance on content – which i think is good #lrnchat
9:31:32 pm Quinnovator: Q4: through connecting their social networks to yours #lrnchat
9:31:57 pm everyselearning: A little distracted tonight, cooking supper, scanning docs &wrapping xmas presents #lrnchat
9:32:02 pm jkmind: @JaneBozarth #lrnchat our exprtse in tchnlgy allows us to be guides for others
9:32:08 pm littleasklab: @moehlert have you looked at Goingon platform? Has SoMe but can sequence content too #lrnchat
9:32:15 pm shantarohse: I suspect you don’t hire one, you simply intersect??? RT @nancyrubin: How do you hire a subject matter network? #lrnchat
9:32:18 pm Quinnovator: @LearningPutty the learners that don’t think they’re learners: “welcome to the new era” #lrnchat
9:32:19 pm roninchef: @JaneBozarth I know of it, yes, and in some ways I’m living the dream. #lrnchat
9:32:19 pm tmiket: Will that be set to a country tune? @JaneBozarth: now working on “Seeding Weeding Wiki” song #lrnchat
9:32:22 pm moehlert: @espnguyen #lrnchat LOL. No charge! …..yet ;-)
9:32:27 pm mpetersell: @LearningPutty: Our SharePoint Approach: http://mwtl.blogspot.com/2009/11/in-praise-of-sharepoint.html #lrnchat
9:32:31 pm elatedca: Q4) : Trusted Networks will be crucial ; LinkedIn & other credentials verifying portals vital #lrnchat
9:32:35 pm JaneBozarth: @everyselearning You can’t be doing that. Can’t. The data say multitasking is not possible. So stop that. #lrnchat
9:32:36 pm Schnicker: @espnguyen Argh – yes! Luckily I have a bottle of wine on my desk which was a gift :) #lrnchat
9:32:36 pm kasey428: Have to run. Must start another e-course project plan b4 tomorrow. Will use ‘What the Hashtag’ to catch up tomorrow. G-night. #lrnchat
9:32:37 pm Dr_KG: RT @Quinnovator: Q4: through connecting their social networks to yours #lrnchat
9:32:43 pm PearlFlipper: RT @kasey428: You guys r my social media network. #lrnchat
9:32:53 pm rpannoni: Will the experts who really know what they’re doing becom saturated with requests? #lrnchat
9:33:00 pm allonsdanser: PowerPoint is #zombie. #lrnchat
9:33:11 pm jadekaz: Networks have always been important in finding “experts” – but building networks was time consuming. New SoMe tools fixed that. #lrnchat
9:33:11 pm gminks: @kasey428 bye miss k! :) #lrnchat
9:33:24 pm hjarche: RT @dougpete I put our hashtag #RCAC09 on the front page of the printed program | well done! #lrnchat
9:33:26 pm jwillensky: @MLx That is a tree to be reckoned with. #lrnchat
9:33:32 pm nancyrubin: What are must haves in So Me platform? Blogs, wikis, doc sharing, facebook-like connections? What is impt to you in a platform? #lrnchat
9:33:36 pm JaneBozarth: @tmiket It sort of lends itself to that, yes? #lrnchat
9:33:38 pm TerrenceWing: @Schnicker There you go celebrating the weekend while the rest of us iron our clothes for tomorrow #lrnchat
9:33:42 pm moehlert: @J_Schulz @allonsdanser @mrch0mp3rs #lrnchat This one? http://tinyurl.com/nlvudl
9:33:43 pm roninchef: @Dr_KG Nailed it exactly.Perhaps you have heard of Clay Shirky’s Power Law of communities? #lrnchat
9:33:43 pm everyselearning: @JaneBozarth West coast, different priorities sorry #lrnchat
9:33:48 pm espnguyen: Q4) The tools today are helping NEW SMEs emerge and have voices they never had before #lrnchat
9:33:51 pm moehlert: @littleasklab #lrnchat Cool! Will take a look!
9:33:58 pm mpetersell: RT @allonsdanser: PowerPoint is #zombie. Anything with this hashtag must be retweeted! #lrnchat
9:34:09 pm neilstephenson: the SoMe will help with connects, but never replace the hard work of designing learning. #lrnchat
9:34:13 pm kelly_smith01: @Dr_KG Yes. It is critical that we validate and SME/SMN for bias, myopia, and stupidity #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:34:14 pm Quinnovator: @rpannoni the experts will have to mentor others to create their own networks to draw on #lrnchat
9:34:18 pm PearlFlipper: What is question 4? #lrnchat
9:34:22 pm JaneBozarth: @nancyrubin Minimal login nonsense. Minimal emails from. Interface that makes sense. #lrnchat
9:34:24 pm Dr_KG: Q4: By building cult followings? #lrnchat
9:34:26 pm espnguyen: @nancyrubin IMHO the first thing people need is a place to make connections #lrnchat
9:34:30 pm tmiket: @JaneBozarth That’s what I thought too #lrnchat
9:34:40 pm jadekaz: In college, I actually “learned” how to network. Write info on back of business cards, fill out 3×5 for each person met, etc #lrnchat
9:34:42 pm stickylearning: RT @Quinnovator Q4: through connecting their social networks to yours #lrnchat – yep, it’s all about building connectiions
9:34:56 pm Schnicker: @TerrenceWing But how do you think I feel on Mondays when you guys are still relaxing on your Sundays? :o ) #lrnchat
9:35:01 pm allonsdanser: RT @espnguyen: Q3) RFID in badges that alert me when people close to me have similar interests #lrnchat Done!
9:35:05 pm Dr_KG: My pt precisely! :-) RT @kelly_smith01: @Dr_KG Yes. It is critical that we validate and SME/SMN for bias, myopia, and stupidity #lrnchat
9:35:11 pm JaneBozarth: @neilstephenson I think the days of “designing learning” are numbered. #lrnchat
9:35:12 pm PearlFlipper: I like that idea! RT@hjarche: RT @dougpete I put our hashtag #RCAC09 on the front page of the printed program | well done! #lrnchat
9:35:21 pm tmiket: @espnguyen Yes and the people are what it’s all about. #lrnchat
9:35:25 pm moehlert: @elatedca #lrnchat Fear. Trust and Control. The Three Horsemen of Social Media #lrnchat
9:35:25 pm neilstephenson: This might lose me some friends – why I dislike “student-centered” learning: http://bit.ly/6U4VqA #lrnchat
9:35:43 pm ThomasStone: @jaycross Confusing, b/c “expertise” doesn’t float abstractly in the relationships in a network. It resides in individual minds. #lrnchat
9:35:47 pm JaneBozarth: @espnguyen Yes, research shows that people need a place/space to connect. #lrnchat
9:35:58 pm gminks: I think some have, I’m working on it…RT @Dr_KG: @gminks “Proven how all of this SoMe stuff affects the bottom line”? #lrnchat
9:36:02 pm tmiket: RT @moehlert: @elatedca #lrnchat Fear. Trust and Control. The Three Horsemen of Social Media #lrnchat
9:36:07 pm hjarche: I found it! The Sominex commercial (wmv) http://is.gd/5iXvN (just insert Powerpoint p.r.n.) #lrnchat
9:36:12 pm TerrenceWing: @Schnicker I guess that’s fair. #lrnchat
9:36:14 pm neilstephenson: @JaneBozarth why is that? I don’t think students can design there own learning. That’s our role #lrnchat
9:36:15 pm KoreenOlbrish: @JaneBozarth whoa. Jane. Did you say we won’t need to design learning? I need a couple drinks for that one… #lrnchat
9:36:22 pm allonsdanser: @dennisschleiche Like the flight announcement boards in airports! #lrnchat
9:36:23 pm jadekaz: RT @tmiket: RT @moehlert: @elatedca #lrnchat Fear. Trust and Control. The Three Horsemen of Social Media #lrnchat
9:36:38 pm moehlert: RT @kelly_smith01: @Dr_KG Yes. It is critical that we validate and SME/SMN for bias, myopia, and stupidity #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:36:40 pm Dr_KG: Q4: I’m curious about what drives people to want to “go public”. #lrnchat
9:36:43 pm JaneBozarth: @everyselearning Comment not about priorities. About studies saying multitasking is impossible. So you must stop, then. #lrnchat
9:36:46 pm gminks: explain plz? RT @moehlert: @elatedca #lrnchat Fear. Trust and Control. The Three Horsemen of Social Media #lrnchat
9:36:50 pm allonsdanser: RT @Mary_a_Myers: #bacon-eating zombies #lrnchat
9:37:10 pm neilstephenson: @JaneBozarth ooops.. their not there.. trying to get ideas out so fast! #lrnchat
9:37:13 pm jaycross: RT @ThomasStone:@jaycross Confusing, b/c “expertise” resides in individuals. ||| George Siemens and I would disagree. Connectivism. #lrnchat
9:37:21 pm stickylearning: RT @jadekaz RT @tmiket: RT @moehlert: @elatedca #lrnchat Fear. Trust and Control. The Three Horsemen of Social Media #lrnchat
9:37:26 pm LearningPutty: Member Connections – u need way 2 faciliate informal lrng – playing matchmkr is imprt. RT @nancyrubin: What R must haves in So Me? #lrnchat
9:37:33 pm leadmusicpic: RT @everyselearning Comment not about priorities. About studies saying multitasking is impossible. So you must stop, then. #lrnchat
9:37:33 pm kasey428: RT @kelly_smith01: @Dr_KG Yes. It is critical that we validate and SME/SMN for bias, myopia, and stupidity #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:37:37 pm Dr_KG: RT @gminks: explain plz? RT @moehlert: @elatedca #lrnchat Fear. Trust and Control. The Three Horsemen of Social Media #lrnchat
9:37:40 pm mpetersell: RT @allonsdanser: RT @Mary_a_Myers: #bacon-eating zombies – I am compelled to retweet this #lrnchat
9:37:41 pm nancyrubin: Is a place to collaborate in real time impt? Based on this yes http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/12/10/cashmore.realtime.web/index.html #lrnchat
9:37:42 pm rpannoni: Highly unlikely. RT @JaneBozarth: @neilstephenson I think the days of “designing learning” are numbered. #lrnchat
9:37:47 pm allonsdanser: @moehlert Right. because peeps don’t like to let go of what they know, but might adopt new. #lrnchat
9:37:47 pm Mary_a_Myers: what do you mean by public?@Dr_KG #lrnchat
9:38:18 pm everyselearning: @JaneBozarth ok I’ll stop then and go eat supper! #lrnchat
9:38:29 pm Schnicker: @gminks Fear, Trust, Control – discussion from #dl09 http://blog.litmos.com/2009/11/social-learning-camp-devlearn-2009-dl09.html #lrnchat
9:38:34 pm kelly_smith01: RT @LearningPutty: Member Connections – u need way 2 faciliate informal lrng – playing matchmkr is imprt. #lrnchat
9:38:36 pm readtoday: RT @neilstephenson This might lose me some friends – why I dislike “student-centered” learning: http://bit.ly/6U4VqA #lrnchat
9:38:37 pm nancyrubin: RT @LearningPutty: Member Connections – u need way 2 faciliate informal lrng – playing matchmkr is imprt. #lrnchat
9:38:43 pm JaneBozarth: @rpannoni @neilstephenson I didn’t say it was a small number. #lrnchat
9:38:55 pm jadekaz: @kelly_smith01: Bias and myopia rank right up there with wanting to share everything you know. #lrnchat
9:39:01 pm ElektraFi: Passed out on the couch and just woke up. O.o Might see what’s going on w/ #lrnchat since I’m too lazy to get my gaming stuff out now. 
9:39:03 pm atsc: @jaycross I disagree, some expertise lies outside the individual. Not all… Where is the research to prove? #lrnchat
9:39:09 pm allonsdanser: @mpetersell Great! You can be our official #bacon-eating zombies retweeter! #bacon #lrnchat
9:39:10 pm gminks: if we are talking corp ed, some lrning has to be designed, so ppl know what to do w/o leaving it to chance #lrnchat
9:39:10 pm LearningPutty: Nah- there will always be some formal lrng. RT @JaneBozarth: @neilstephenson I think the days of “designing learning” are numbered. #lrnchat
9:39:21 pm mpetersell: I think the days of “designing courses” are numbered; but “designing learning” will be the next evolution of our jobs #lrnchat
9:39:22 pm jaycross: RT @JaneBozarth: @neilstephenson ..days of “designing learning” are numbered. ||| We will be designing environments, not courses. #lrnchat
9:39:24 pm Quinnovator: as *all* we do RT @rpannoni: Highly unlikely. RT @JaneBozarth: @neilstephenson I think days of “designing learning” are numbered. #lrnchat
9:39:51 pm Mary_a_Myers: Yeah! RT @allonsdanser: @mpetersell Great! You can be our official #bacon-eating zombies retweeter! #bacon #lrnchat
9:39:59 pm neilstephenson: @JaneBozarth you cant give me a specific number of days? ;) #lrnchat
9:40:00 pm JaneBozarth: @jaycross Thank you Jay. Others disagreeing w/ me on that… #lrnchat
9:40:05 pm TerrenceWing: Huh?RT @rpannoni: Highly unlikely.@JaneBozarth: @neilstephenson I think the days of “designing learning” are numbered. #lrnchat
9:40:09 pm moehlert: @LearningPutty @JaneBozarth @neilstephenson #lrnchat Diff between “formal” and “designed” no?
9:40:16 pm nancyrubin: Do you see apps like google docs and sharepoint becoming more impt as we need to collaborate on pieces of projects and pass around? #lrnchat
9:40:20 pm readtoday: RT@neilstephenson I think days of “designing learning” are numbered. #lrnchat Not certain what this means
9:40:31 pm mpetersell: RT @jaycross: RT @JaneBozarth: @neilstephenson We will be designing environments, not courses. #lrnchat – I second that!
9:40:38 pm JaneBozarth: I think we are confusing “learning” with “training”… #lrnchat
9:40:42 pm atsc: @readtoday No, I’ll read it later. It’s funny there is a right wing and left wing in education. Somewhere in the middle lies truth #lrnchat
9:40:47 pm everyselearning: @JaneBozarth Actually I have my theories on that. At times I find that multitasking can help focus believe it or not. #lrnchat
9:40:52 pm PearlFlipper: I’m still distracted by bacon-eating zombies, drinking at words never intended to drink to, and wondering what is question #4. #lrnchat
9:41:03 pm stickylearning: RT @mpetersell The days of “designing courses” are numbered; but “designing learning” will be next evolution of our jobs #lrnchat well put!
9:41:04 pm readtoday: Material that is placed before students needs to be designed. That is designed learning material. No? #lrnchat
9:41:12 pm JaneBozarth: @everyselearning Yes I am with you. I was making fun of the studies. Clearly wrong…#lrnchat
9:41:13 pm mpetersell: @nancyrubin SharePoint is becoming very important for us #lrnchat
9:41:18 pm littleasklab: @moehlert Need to get permission to see U Penn stuff on platform, but seems like a hybrid of Collab/Elgg w/ some LMS #lrnchat
9:41:18 pm neilstephenson: @jaycross do we lose the disciplines when we move to environments? That scares me. I think ideas have histories that are necessary #lrnchat
9:41:23 pm allonsdanser: RT @kasey428: Those who tweet at conferences can bring the conference in real time to co-workers unable to attend. #lrnchat Thas what I say
9:41:36 pm jadekaz: I hope so! Exciting time to be in profession. RT @jaycross: We will be designing environments, not courses. #lrnchat
9:41:39 pm Quinnovator: what he said: RT @jaycross ..days of “designing learning” are numbered. ||| We will be designing environments, not courses. #lrnchat
9:41:42 pm jaycross: RT @atsc: @jaycross Some expertise lies outside the individual Where is the research to prove?||| http://www.connectivism.ca/ #lrnchat
9:41:46 pm PearlFlipper: Yep. @nancyrubin: Do you see apps like google docs & sharepoint becoming more impt as we need 2 collaborate on pieces of projects? #lrnchat
9:41:47 pm KoreenOlbrish: Weren’t we supposed to be talking about SoMe at conferences? :) #lrnchat
9:41:54 pm leadmusicpic: @everyselearning unless I’m multitasking, I can’t get anything acccomplished. I’d freak if I had to focus on one thing #lrnchat
9:41:58 pm readtoday: RT@ everyselearning @JaneBozarthAt times I find that multitasking can help focus believe it or not. #lrnchat
9:41:59 pm atsc: @everyselearning multitasking is a disproven myth… #lrnchat
9:42:00 pm jkmind: @JaneBozarth #lrnchat even with training though how often do you really get learning?
9:42:02 pm everyselearning: @JaneBozarth oh darn, thought I had a good argument coming up. #lrnchat
9:42:11 pm rpannoni: For some things, designed learning is (and will always be) better. @JaneBozarth @neilstephenson @Quinnovator #lrnchat
9:42:12 pm MLx: @JaneBozarth I like it. #lrnchat
9:42:14 pm Mary_a_Myers: @PearlFlipper oh sorry! i think i’m implicated in 3/4 of those. #lrnchat
9:42:29 pm nancyrubin: In my last experience with ID team, a rapid ID model was the most effective – analysis, prototyping, review, design – worked well #lrnchat
9:42:30 pm jadekaz: @PearlFlipper LOL that made me laugh that you got stuck on zombies and don’t know Q4 #lrnchat
9:42:31 pm jaycross: RT @neilstephenson: @jaycross do we lose the disciplines ||| The world is multi-disciplinary. We don’t lose, we embrace more… #lrnchat
9:42:34 pm tonnet: I think days of “designing learning” are numbered. #lrnchat RT (@Quinnovator, @rpannoni, @JaneBozarth, @neilstephenson)
9:42:37 pm moehlert: @littleasklab #lrnchat Purdue also working on cool stuff: Hotseat (SoMe for the classroom)
9:42:39 pm allonsdanser: RT @nancyrubin: Q4) SMEs present themselves in the Web2.0 space through blogs, wikis, twitter, linkedin #lrnchat
9:42:42 pm tmiket: @readtoday Not all materials the “students” see designed at all #lrnchat
9:42:52 pm neilstephenson: For me designing learning has to do the nature of knowledge – it’s ontology not just epistemolgy. How do we learn to be something -#lrnchat
9:42:54 pm mpetersell: @rpannoni Like how to pilot a nuclear submarine – probably needs design #lrnchat
9:42:58 pm atsc: I’ve learned something new, stop listening to the false elearning gods… #lrnchat
9:43:04 pm moehlert: @Ross @jaycross #lrnchat Thought you might like that one Ross! :-)
9:43:10 pm Quinnovator: place challenges, not material RT @readtoday: Material that is placed before students needs to be designed. #lrnchat
9:43:16 pm hjarche: @KoreenOlbrish that was on the curriculum, but now we know that curriculum is tyranny – death to the tyrants! #lrnchat
9:43:18 pm nancyrubin: Just like everyone has different def for ADDIE – same thing for rapid instructional design. I used it as a model for our dev team #lrnchat
9:43:21 pm TerrenceWing: Let’s bring the back channel forward in conf. SoMe doesn’t have to be a post event activity. SoMe should be an attendee #lrnchat
9:43:32 pm PearlFlipper: I’d like to respond but am too busy chewing gum. RT @atsc: @everyselearning multitasking is a disproven myth… #lrnchat
9:43:36 pm everyselearning: @atsc what on earth does that mean, what is disproven, that a person can/should/may multitask? #lrnchat
9:43:37 pm JaneBozarth: @jkmind That’s my point. “Training” isn’t “learning”. #lrnchat
9:43:56 pm Quinnovator: can learner to learning, but can’t make ‘em think: design learning experiences #lrnchat
9:44:02 pm KoreenOlbrish: @hjarche omg, i think i just regressed to my teaching days… #lrnchat
9:44:03 pm hjarche: @neilstephenson we learn to be by doing, IMO #lrnchat
9:44:13 pm kelly_smith01: When considering “Knowledge Management” the most critical element is “management” . Some knowledge has limited life #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:44:22 pm mpetersell: @TerrenceWing Isn’t it rude to tweet during conf events? #lrnchat
9:44:30 pm rpannoni: Or most anything for a beginner with no grounding. @mpetersell: Like how to pilot a nuclear submarine #lrnchat
9:44:31 pm everyselearning: @PearlFlipper lol! Funny! #lrnchat
9:44:33 pm Dr_KG: @Quinnovator Material and place are strongly connected. Material designed depends upon place to be used….#lrnchat
9:44:39 pm dennisschleiche: #lrnchat @allonsdanser yes, that big or bigger
9:44:40 pm atsc: @everyselearning Research has shown that mutlitaksing seriously curbs actual learning. People cannot multitaks successfully… #lrnchat
9:44:43 pm neilstephenson: For me the design of lrning is more about introducing students into a ‘way of being’ in a subject more than delivering content. #lrnchat
9:44:44 pm allonsdanser: @mpetersell The masses have elected you #bacon-eating zombies retweeter! ! #bacon #lrnchat
9:44:53 pm ThomasStone: @jaycross presumably your view is more nuanced than 140 chars summary permits, because otherwise you are reifying an abstraction. #lrnchat
9:45:02 pm littleasklab: @moehlert Thanks! Am reviewing platforms right now as we’re lookin’ to build or buy #lrnchat
9:45:05 pm LearningPutty: 3rd this! RT @stickylearning: RT @mpetersell Days of “designing courses” R numbered; “designing lrng” is next evolution #lrnchat well put!
9:45:13 pm espnguyen: Not at a good one RT @mpetersell: @TerrenceWing Isn’t it rude to tweet during conf events? #lrnchat
9:45:14 pm JaneBozarth: @atsc Bad research. #lrnchat
9:45:22 pm jaycross: RT @Quinnovator: can learner to learning, but cant make em think. “You can take a boy to college, but you can’t make him think.” #lrnchat
9:45:29 pm allonsdanser: RT @gminks: explain plz? RT @moehlert: @elatedca #lrnchat Fear. Trust . Control. The Three Horsemen of Social Media #lrnchat Elaborate plz.
9:45:31 pm nancyrubin: One of my all time favorites – Dump the Drone – http://www.cathy-moore.com/courses/dump_drone.html #lrnchat
9:45:32 pm PearlFlipper: DRINK RT@nancyrubin: Just like everyone has different def for ADDIE – same thing for rapid instructional design. I used it as … #lrnchat
9:45:36 pm TerrenceWing: Multi-tasking causes incompetence. The more you do it, the less valuable you are #lrnchat
9:45:42 pm hjarche: @atsc talk to a helicopter pilot about multi-tasking (hmm, maybe that’s why many are ADD) #lrnchat
9:45:54 pm mpetersell: RT @allonsdanser: @mpetersell The masses have elected you #bacon-eating zombies retweeter! ! #bacon – here I go again! #lrnchat
9:45:58 pm everyselearning: @atsc It all depends on the task(s). Sorry. #lrnchat
9:46:07 pm JaneBozarth: @everyselearning See what I mean? Pppl who can’t do it trying to prove the rest of us can’t, either. Didn’t you just do it? LOL #lrnchat
9:46:08 pm PearlFlipper: It’s engagement. RT@espnguyen: Not at a good one RT @mpetersell: @TerrenceWing Isn’t it rude to tweet during conf events? #lrnchat
9:46:10 pm jadekaz: Battling old content is problematic, whether intranet or training or SoMe // RT @kelly_smith01: Some knowledge has limited life #lrnchat
9:46:20 pm neilstephenson: @hjarche I completely agree – we learn by doing – so design in getting students to do thoughtful things – not whatever they want #lrnchat
9:46:20 pm Quinnovator: @ThomasStone reifying? That’s gotta be a drink #lrnchat
9:46:26 pm jaycross: RT @ThomasStone: @jaycross presumably your view is more nuanced than … ||| What are networks if not connected individuals, Tom? #lrnchat
9:46:27 pm TerrenceWing: LOL Call me rude RT @espnguyen: Not at a good one RT @mpetersell: Isn’t it rude to tweet during conf events? #lrnchat
9:46:28 pm Dr_KG: @mrch0mp3rs You’ve proven ROI of SoMe? Got anything u can share besides anecdotal? Seem 2 C alot-not very convincing for execs. #lrnchat
9:46:35 pm espnguyen: @hjarche Look what happened to the NWA pilots that were multitasking :) #lrnchat
9:46:36 pm JaneBozarth: Hey! Who’s multitasking successfully right now? #lrnchat
9:46:41 pm PearlFlipper: Tweeting at conferences ok, probably rude to tweet at the altar though. Still pondering that one. #lrnchat
9:46:49 pm readtoday: @tmiket New media is like the wild west. Kids have very little time. They deserve the best we have to offer #lrnchat
9:46:57 pm littleasklab: “rude to tweet during conferences”… These daze, seems like it’s an insult not to. #lrnchat
9:47:03 pm Mary_a_Myers: definitely.RT @Quinnovator: @ThomasStone reifying? That’s gotta be a drink #lrnchat
9:47:14 pm espnguyen: RT @TerrenceWing: LOL Call me rude RT @espnguyen: Not at a good one RT @mpetersell: Isn’t it rude to tweet during conf events? #lrnchat
9:47:15 pm ThomasStone: Individual minds have knowledge,/skills and in some cases great k/s (expertise). Not “networks” which is an abstraction = no mind. #lrnchat
9:47:27 pm Quinnovator: paraphrasing Dorothy Parker using ‘horticulture’ in a sentence RT @jaycross: “can take boy to college, but can’t make him think.” #lrnchat
9:47:32 pm moehlert: @ThomasStone #lrnchat “reifying an abstraction” DRINK!
9:47:33 pm jaycross: RT @espnguyen: @hjarche Look what happened to the NWA pilots that were multitasking :) Sleeping and flying? #lrnchat
9:47:34 pm mpetersell: @TerrenceWing SoMe Back Channel is part of the new world; But once would have been rude don’t you think? #lrnchat
9:47:37 pm guywwallace: RT @JaneBozarth: I think we are confusing “learning” with “training”… #lrnchat
9:47:46 pm kelly_smith01: RT @littleasklab: “rude to tweet during conferences”… These daze, seems like its an insult not to. #lrnchat
9:47:54 pm TerrenceWing: @PearlFlipper Not if God answers back. #lrnchat
9:47:55 pm Mary_a_Myers: @JaneBozarth i’m drinking wine; formatting a document; watching the #lrnchat stream; and making the wind doesn’t blow my house down.
9:47:56 pm roninchef: @JaneBozarth Me! Chatting w/ Mrs. Roninchef and watching Rachel Maddow and doing this here #lrnchat
9:47:57 pm jaycross: RT @littleasklab: “rude to tweet during conferences”… These daze, seems like its an insult not to. #lrnchat
9:47:57 pm PearlFlipper: Come back to us! RT@KoreenOlbrish: @hjarche omg, i think i just regressed to my teaching days… #lrnchat
9:48:02 pm ThomasStone: Not being a stickler for language use, but rather philosophical about this — entities and abstrations are not the same thing. #lrnchat
9:48:03 pm atsc: @littleasklab Don’t name people. Don’t shame people. How rude… #lrnchat
9:48:04 pm Schnicker: RT @littleasklab: “rude to tweet during conferences”… These daze, seems like it’s an insult not to #lrnchat
9:48:15 pm Dr_KG: RT @Quinnovator: can learner to learning, but can’t make ‘em think: design learning experiences #lrnchat
9:48:18 pm stickylearning: @JaneBozarth I’m eating, drinking, reading, typing, listening to jazz, learning? Looks like I’m multi-tasking #lrnchat
9:48:24 pm LearningPutty: Conf R 4 lrng. if it helps – go 4 it! RT @espnguyen: Not at good 1 RT @mpetersell: @TerrenceWing Is it rude to tweet during conf? #lrnchat
9:48:29 pm everyselearning: @leadmusicpic Exactly!! #lrnchat
9:48:30 pm hybridkris: @espnguyen They weren’t multitasking, that was the problem. #lrnchat
9:48:34 pm guywwallace: RT @gminks: if we are talking corp ed, some lrning has to be designed, so ppl know what to do w/o leaving it to chance #lrnchat
9:48:41 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Fear of people saying wrong, bad, secret things. Trust=SoMe tools expose how much u trust ur people
9:48:41 pm Quinnovator: @Dr_KG actually, have seen quite a few examples of SoMe benefits #lrnchat
9:48:45 pm joewehr: RT @rpannoni: Will the experts who really know what they’re doing becom saturated with requests? #lrnchat
9:48:47 pm rpannoni: Not me. (Unless you count drinking) RT @JaneBozarth: Hey! Who’s multitasking successfully right now? #lrnchat
9:48:51 pm neilstephenson: I think we’re confusing learning with understanding #lrnchat
9:48:56 pm jaycross: RT @ThomasStone: Not “networks” which is an abstraction = no mind. ||| Tom, my personal networks are not abstractions. #lrnchat
9:49:10 pm atsc: @JaneBozarth Not me, I’m concentrating on doing one thing well at a time… #lrnchat
9:49:13 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Control = Are you willing to cede some of the illusion of control for greater rewards?
9:49:26 pm Dr_KG: Do SMN generally see themselves as that? If so, what do they tend to cite as their mission, responsibilities, etc… #lrnchat
9:49:29 pm jadekaz: @JaneBozarth But the real question is whether tomorrow you can remember what you ate tonight. :) #lrnchat
9:49:34 pm PearlFlipper: RT@mpetersell: @TerrenceWing SoMe Backchannel <– Can you define back-channel, I must be too old to know that one. #lrnchat
9:49:41 pm readtoday: RT@guywwallace RT @gminks: if we are talking corp ed, some lrning has to be designed, what to do w/o leaving it to chance #lrnchat
9:49:41 pm moehlert: @JaneBozarth #lrnchat Oh! Oh! Me! Pick me!
9:49:41 pm JaneBozarth: @guywwallace Hey Guy good to see you. How did tonight go? #lrnchat
9:50:00 pm ThomasStone: @JaneBozarth Perhaps we could say the designing will shift up a level, to organizing the otherwise un-designed learning content? #lrnchat
9:50:05 pm everyselearning: Have you ever tried to listen to a boring (but informative) talk while not doing anything else? #lrnchat
9:50:27 pm mpetersell: @PearlFlipper I mean tweeting in the back of the room during a presentation at a conference #lrnchat
9:50:33 pm Dr_KG: @Quinnovator Other than anecdotal? If so, pls share. I’ve seen quite a bit on increased site visits, etc. #lrnchat
9:50:34 pm readtoday: RT @neilstephenson I think we’re confusing learning with understanding #lrnchat
9:50:37 pm PearlFlipper: Agree. RT @littleasklab: “rude to tweet during conferences”… These daze, seems like it’s an insult not to. #lrnchat
9:50:37 pm moehlert: @espnguyen @TerrenceWing @espnguyen @mpetersell #lrnchat Is it rude to take notes? Is it rude to be an unprepared speaker?
9:50:49 pm jaycross: RT @ThomasStone: the designing will shift up a level, to organizing the otherwise un-designed learning content? ||| Right on. #lrnchat
9:50:49 pm Quinnovator: social learning examples from @dwilkinsnh http://bit.ly/K16NU #lrnchat
9:50:53 pm tmiket: Impossible RT @everyselearning: Ever tried to listen to a boring (but informative) talk while not doing anything else? #lrnchat
9:50:54 pm kelly_smith01: @Quinnovator Would Dorthy Parker and those other guys tweet? #lrnchat
9:50:55 pm everyselearning: Much easier done if you are doodling…anything! Allows you to concentrate. OK I’ll stop now. Getting hungry. #lrnchat
9:50:56 pm KAKoehler: And extends the conv RT @espnguyen: Not at a good one RT @mpetersell: @TerrenceWing Isn’t it rude to tweet during conf events? #lrnchat
9:51:03 pm joewehr: RT @jkmind: @JaneBozarth #lrnchat our exprtse in tchnlgy allows us to be guides for others
9:51:05 pm TerrenceWing: @PearlFlipper Back Chan are those tweeting about the event outside of the events controlled comm channels. #lrnchat
9:51:05 pm hjarche: RT @joewehr: RT @rpannoni: Will experts becom saturated with requests? “social learning contract” #lrnchat
9:51:09 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links welcome. What can we help you with? #lrnchat
9:51:11 pm neilstephenson: whats the role in outcomes/targets in learning? #lrnchat
9:51:22 pm jadekaz: @gminks. No kidding. Can you imagine a new emp starting and saying “just use yammer. You’ll find everything you need to know. Bye.” #lrnchat
9:51:25 pm allonsdanser: RT @readtoday: Material that is placed before students needs to be designed. That is designed learning material. No? #lrnchat Uh. I think so
9:51:29 pm espnguyen: After the richness of tweets from #dl09 I can’t imagine not tweeting at a conf event #lrnchat
9:51:29 pm JaneBozarth: @jadekaz Yes and I made it! Domestic goddess… #lrnchat
9:51:33 pm moehlert: @ThomasStone @JaneBozarth #lrnchat Nicely put I think.
9:51:33 pm hjarche: Blog: our part of the social learning contract http://is.gd/5iYm5 #lrnchat
9:51:34 pm rpannoni: In fairness, multi-tasking can sometimes keep you awake. @everyselearning #lrnchat
9:51:35 pm PearlFlipper: Thanks for defining back channel RT @mpetersell: @PearlFlipper tweeting in the back of the room during a presentation at a conf #lrnchat
9:51:41 pm Quinnovator: @neilstephenson think we want to confuse learning with performance; it’s about the outcomes baby! #lrnchat
9:51:42 pm Dr_KG: @moehlert Also exposes how much you empower your people to take chances, engage in collective brainstorming in safe environt, etc. #lrnchat
9:51:54 pm Quinnovator: elready?!? RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links welcome. What can we help you with? #lrnchat
9:52:04 pm JaneBozarth: RT @everyselearning: Ever tried to listen to a boring (but informative) talk while not doing anything else? #lrnchat
9:52:07 pm moehlert: @jaycross @espnguyen @hjarche #lrnchat That wasn’t multitasking – it was ’screwing off’
9:52:08 pm espnguyen: @KAKoehler Good to see you here! #lrnchat
9:52:12 pm ElektraFi: RT @littleasklab: “rude to tweet during conferences”… These daze, seems like it’s an insult not to. #lrnchat [quite a culture shift!]
9:52:13 pm jkmind: @lrnchat #lrnchat Jesse Kramer in Ewing NJ. I’m currently interested in sims. Anyone have any good resources? online or print?
9:52:14 pm Quinnovator: @kelly_smith01 only in my dreams #lrnchat
9:52:14 pm KoreenOlbrish: Isn’t most of the value you get from conferences through interactions w others? Why shouldn’t those interactions cont. thru tech? #lrnchat
9:52:20 pm PearlFlipper: When I tweet while I’m listening, I’m actually doing the digital equivalent of ‘taking notes’ on the things that most interesting. #lrnchat
9:52:36 pm ThomasStone: nope, its the new normal RT @mpetersell: @TerrenceWing Isn’t it rude to tweet during conf events? #lrnchat
9:52:38 pm leadmusicpic: @rpannoni or the short attention span allows the brain to process one thing while moving onto the next (my opinion) #lrnchat
9:52:44 pm LearningPutty: Rude to Tweet during Conf? – I love seeing what everyone else is lrng. Imprt to come full circle on conf material. #lrnchat
9:52:52 pm PearlFlipper: Am I just a rude backchannelling conference attendee then? #lrnchat
9:52:52 pm neilstephenson: @Quinnovator I’m all about the outcomes – performance should be directed at clear outcomes. #lrnchat
9:52:55 pm jadekaz: @everyselearning That’s why keeping attention is one of key ID jobs. Go ARCS! #lrnchat
9:52:57 pm Dr_KG: What do you guys think about orgs that use SoMe, such as Twitter, and only allow “canned, preapproved announcement-like” tweets? #lrnchat
9:52:57 pm moehlert: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links welcome. What can we help you with? #lrnchat
9:52:59 pm tonya_simmons: @everyselearning actually heard a story on NPR that doodling while listening helps ppl learn BETTER #lrnchat
9:53:01 pm nancyrubin: case studies presented using avatars in immersive environments can present extremely engaging lessons for students more next week #lrnchat
9:53:09 pm tmiket: @hjarche Being known as expert more likely to lead to more/better opportunities (RE: experts being saturated) #lrnchat
9:53:21 pm TerrenceWing: Rude is so my middle name now RT @moehlert @espnguyen @mpetersell #lrnchat Is it rude 2 take notes? Is it rude 2 b a bad speaker?
9:53:34 pm rpannoni: Looking for a learning leader who has experience working with corporate boards for a CLO mag article. #lrnchat
9:53:35 pm Dr_KG: @KoreenOlbrish I think they should continue thru tech. It’s one of the great benes of the tech. #lrnchat
9:53:46 pm espnguyen: Steve Nguyen, Minneapolis, Technology Lead, Rabid Ohio State fan #lrnchat
9:53:46 pm LearningPutty: Qwrap) Renee Robbins, www.learningputty.com, Chicago IL – Thanks for a great #lrnchat discussion. Some great points and links!
9:53:49 pm everyselearning: Myra Rhodes Mulitasker www.everyones.com Attend a free webinar www.everyones.com/webinar (web design) #lrnchat
9:53:54 pm JaneBozarth: Author, Doctor of Learnin’ Stuff, Designer, Domestic goddess. Successful multitasker. #lrnchat
9:54:00 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, Performance Improvement Specialist, Texas, Will I read Rummler or Parker tonight? #lrnchat
9:54:03 pm tmiket: @Dr_KG Not much #lrnchat
9:54:05 pm joewehr: RT @JaneBozarth How do we help learners find people they need to find? Where’s our role in that? #lrnchat
9:54:07 pm nancyrubin: RT @tmiket: @hjarche Being known as expert more likely to lead to more/better opportunities (RE: experts being saturated) #lrnchat
9:54:09 pm hjarche: @tmiket agree – we learn through teaching others #lrnchat
9:54:11 pm Mary_a_Myers: Totally Agree! RT @Dr_KG: @KoreenOlbrish I think they should continue thru tech. It’s one of the great benes of the tech. #lrnchat
9:54:40 pm readtoday: OMGosh. I think I learned something tonight. Thanks to everyone at #lrnchat
9:54:45 pm jaycross: Jay Cross, Berkeley. Need a firebrand speaker to shake things up? A new vision? My January schedule is open. http://bit.ly/7hlLcY #lrnchat
9:54:45 pm ThomasStone: Agreed. So me thinks we may have a semantic dispute only here. @jaycross: What are networks if not connected individuals, Tom? #lrnchat
9:54:53 pm stickylearning: Michael Eury, Melbourne Australia – Enjoyed #lrnchat ting with everyone today
9:54:56 pm tonya_simmons: Tonya Goth Simmons, elearning production designer, Phasient Learning Technologies, Ames IA (tho it presently looks like North Pole) #lrnchat
9:54:58 pm hjarche: RT @rpannoni: Looking for a learning leader who has experience working with corporate boards for a CLO mag article. #lrnchat
9:55:07 pm neilstephenson: blogger, masters in Hermeneutics, PD coordinator, can’t multitask worth a shit.. (oops) #lrnchat
9:55:12 pm tmiket: Mike Taylor Columbus, OH Learning nerd and #lrnchat fan
9:55:13 pm mpetersell: Mike from Connecticut; I had fun tonight! Thanksl #bacon #zombie #lrnchat
9:55:24 pm ElektraFi: @PearlFlipper I agree on the tweet as taking notes. It’s a shame most corporate instructors still think of this as being rude. #lrnchat
9:55:30 pm TerrenceWing: Some how I got RT’d to a comment I didn’t make. What the heck? #lrnchat I love tweeting during conf & I don’t think its rude but necessary
9:55:46 pm Dr_KG: Agree! Controlled SoMe is oxymoronic to me! RT @tmiket: @Dr_KG Not much #lrnchat
9:55:47 pm nancyrubin: Content Evangelist, Web2.0 Wunderkind, Instructional Designer and Developer, Project Guru #lrnchat
9:55:54 pm Mary_a_Myers: Mary Myers, Learning Consultant, ID, extreme collaborator and cooperator, negligent on my #dl10 mix, lover of learning and #lrnchat
9:55:57 pm jadekaz: Jade Kazmierski signing off :: corp ID, grad student studying ID, SoMe convert #lrnchat
9:56:01 pm ThomasStone: My pt. is knowledge/skill (and hence at higher level, expertise) reside in indvidual people — not in the “network” as such #lrnchat
9:56:10 pm Schnicker: @moehlert Definitely rude to be an unprepared speaker @espnguyen @terrencewing @mpetersell #lrnchat
9:56:10 pm hybridkris: Kris Rockwell, Pittsburgh, PA. Hybrid Learning Systems, mobile learning punk. Disillusioned Steelers fan. #lrnchat
9:56:16 pm KoreenOlbrish: KO, Phillyish, virtual worlds, games, simulations, and ARGs. And #zombies #lrnchat
9:56:18 pm JaneBozarth: I’m in Nashville TN this weekend. Anyone there? #lrnchat
9:56:26 pm jwillensky: Jason Willensky, distracted (tonight) ID-for-hire, Phoenix. Good night & thanks! #lrnchat
9:56:28 pm moehlert: @lrnchat #lrnchat Mark Oehlert from Washington DC. Check #lrnchat blog for transcript and here for replayable version. This one was rockin
9:56:33 pm leadmusicpic: Bryon Ownby, Knoxville, TN application software instructor, softskills instructor, and leadership study nerd #lrnchat
9:56:50 pm JaneBozarth: @TerrenceWing Speed of #lrnchat . Just hope it was something you wish you’d said.
9:56:50 pm J_Schulz: John Schulz, Learning Strategist (I love fancy titles), Chicago #lrnchat
9:57:10 pm KoreenOlbrish: If anyone participated in the #dl09 zombie apocalypse ARG & would be willing to be interviewed, DM me! #dl09za #lrnchat
9:57:20 pm allisunelearns: Allisun O’Connell, Moodler of 6 years and lover of everything eLearning, night all #lrnchat
9:57:23 pm neilstephenson: this is a great #lrnchat but sadly I gotta go – Skype chat in two minute to get ready for. Thanks everyone.
9:57:25 pm PearlFlipper: What I love about #lrnchat is that I can dive in anywhere in the conversation and find people to stimulate my little brain. Thank you all!
9:57:35 pm kelly_smith01: Keep those links to articles, blogs, comments, etc. coming during the week my fellow #lrnchat folks. #lrnchat
9:57:43 pm ThomasStone: I think the confusion arises here in part because you said “instead”, as to set the SMEs qua individuals as separate from network #lrnchat
9:57:45 pm tonnet: RT @KoreenOlbrish: If anyone participated in the #dl09 zombie apocalypse ARG & would be willing to be interviewed, DM me! #dl09za #lrnchat
9:57:45 pm hjarche: good night & good luck, learnchatters; from Sackville, NB, Canada #lrnchat
9:57:57 pm gminks: Gina outside Boston, 1 semester left in my grad program @ FSU, community mgr & tech training developer for EMC #lrnchat
9:58:05 pm TerrenceWing: Terrence Wing – Los Angeles, CA Leadership and Mgmt Consulting #lrnchat
9:58:09 pm ThomasStone: Love this! RT @littleasklab: “rude to tweet during conferences”… These daze, seems like it’s an insult not to. #lrnchat
9:58:09 pm JaneBozarth: RT @PearlFlipper What I love about #lrnchat is that I can dive in anywhere in the conversation and find people to stimulate my little brain
9:58:12 pm espnguyen: Thanks to all the lrnchatters. Loved this one. Now back to my regularly scheduled tweets… #lrnchat
9:58:17 pm jaycross: RT @ThomasStone: ..knowledge/skill (and expertise) reside in indvidual people. ||| Please read George Siemens, Tom. You’ll enjoy it #lrnchat
9:58:27 pm hybridkris: RT @KoreenOlbrish: If anyone participated in the #dl09 zombie apocalypse ARG & would be willing to be interviewed, DM me! #dl09za #lrnchat
9:58:33 pm Dr_KG: Keysha Gamor, Washington, DC, teacher, writer, ISD-work virtual worlds, virtual reality, games, etc. Dedicated team player…. #lrnchat
9:58:51 pm Schnicker: Nicole Fougere, blogger at Litmos (http://blog.litmos.com) LMS, living in New Zealand #lrnchat
9:59:03 pm atsc: Andrew from Sydney… Almost Friday evening here… Yay! #lrnchat
9:59:11 pm marciamarcia: Writing book bout all this stuff: how social media tools presents big opps to learn. Welcome any examples you think of after #lrnchat
9:59:26 pm jaycross: Good night and good luck. #lrnchat
9:59:31 pm JaneBozarth: Night ‘all. #lrnchat
9:59:43 pm J_Schulz: @hybridkris You may be hatin the Steelers, but you’re kickin ass on the #lrnchatsig! #lrnchat
9:59:46 pm littleasklab: Leslie @littleasklab tweeting with chilled digits in Seattle #lrnchat
9:59:50 pm marciamarcia: @Dr_KG Controlled learning seems just as oxymoronic to me… #lrnchat
10:00:02 pm KoreenOlbrish: Be safe out there people! #lrnchat
10:00:18 pm roninchef: Mason Masteka Elearning Dev, in Portland ME. Linux and Open Source advocate. Looking forward to Joliclouds beta this week! KTHXBAI #lrnchat
10:00:22 pm rpannoni: Thanks Harold. RT @hjarche: Looking for a learning leader who has experience working with corp boards for a CLO mag article. #lrnchat
10:00:27 pm tonya_simmons: Night everyone – the boy apparently wants ME to put him to bed #lrnchat
10:00:36 pm TerrenceWing: @JaneBozarth Not at all. I kept getting all these replies and was like …hello, it wasn’t me. #lrnchat
10:00:45 pm littleasklab: Nice. RT @KoreenOlbrish: Be safe out there people! #lrnchat
10:00:59 pm PearlFlipper: RT @Dr_KG: Agree! Controlled SoMe is oxymoronic to me! RT @tmiket: @Dr_KG Not much #lrnchat
10:01:03 pm lrnchat: Thank you for joining us on #lrnchat. Pls remember to submit Qs & theme ideas for upcoming chats at http://sn.im/lrnchat . See u next week!

Transcript 03 Dec 2009

December 4, 2009 by Marcia Conner

8:30:00 pm roninchef: Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. It’s time for #lrnchat
8:30:05 pm lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been? Q0 warm up after the rules.
8:30:22 pm lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1) Introduce yourself. (We do this again at the end). Location? Focus? Fave topics?
8:30:30 pm Abhinava: To all: Will be #lrnchat -ing please forgive possible flood of tweets… #lrnchat
8:30:31 pm sahana2802: Waiting for #lrnchat to start and drinking DD’s vanilla coffee, gift of New England from @jmarrapodi… :)
8:30:36 pm LearningPutty: Well said! RT @Quinnovator: warning, about to flood the tweetstream with #lrnchat for the next 1.5 hours; ignore or, better yet, join in!
8:30:56 pm Quinnovator: and please don’t forget the Official #lrnchat Drinking Game ™: http://lrnchatdrinkinggame.wikispaces.com/
8:31:18 pm sahana2802: RT @Quinnovator warning, about to flood the tweetstream with #lrnchat for the next 1.5 hours; ignore or, better yet, join in!
8:31:24 pm lrnchat: 2) [try to] stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 20 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
8:31:48 pm RobRobertson: Folks pardon the flurry of tweets or better yet… join us via TweetChat at: http://tweetchat.com/room/lrnchat #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:32:00 pm scareytweets: Who is using tweetchat for tonite’s #lrnchat? This is the first time I’ve been able to attend.
8:32:01 pm mpetersell: Mike from Connecticut; Focused on Management De;velopment and Instructional Design; Favorite topic – informal learning; Hi all! #lrnchat
8:32:17 pm gminks: RT @Quinnovator: warning, about to flood the tweetstream with #lrnchat for the next 1.5 hours; ignore or, better yet, join in! #lrnchat
8:32:19 pm JaneBozarth: Heuristic! Drink! #lrnchat
8:32:26 pm gminks: hey everybody!!! #lrnchat
8:32:27 pm lrnchat: 3) When writing, complete thoughts help followers outside chat learn from you. 4) on #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm, welcome tho.
8:32:29 pm busynessgirl: RT @Quinnovator warning, about to flood the tweetstream with #lrnchat for the next 1.5 hours; ignore or, better yet, join in! #lrnchat
8:32:34 pm elatedca: Hope How Community Influences Learning can incorporate a Green component; have an example to share #lrnchat
8:32:46 pm Abhinava: HaHa…RT @Quinnovator: and please dont forget the Official #lrnchat Drinking Game ™: http://lrnchatdrinkinggame.wikispaces.com/ #lrnchat
8:32:59 pm JaneBozarth: Hi from RDU, NC. Trainer. Designer. Writer. Doctor. Pompatus of Love. #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:33:11 pm tgrevatt: Yay, home in time to catch up with folks on #lrnchat It’s been a while, greetings from Treena in Ottawa #lrnchat
8:33:11 pm klowey22: John near Washington DC, knowledge management #lrnchat
8:33:21 pm lrnchat: 5) Periodically RT questions so others outside #lrnchat know what you’re talking about so they can chime in.
8:33:23 pm gwoodill: Gary Woodill from Brandon Hall Research, coming to you from Canada. #lrnchat
8:33:34 pm rmyardley: Russell Yardley Melbourne (Oz) Expert Communities coaching mentoring #lrnchat
8:33:41 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, Walnut Creek CA, learning experience design instigator extraordinaire, learnlets.com blogger, consultant-for-hire #lrnchat
8:33:43 pm klowey22: hi everybody! #lrnchat
8:33:50 pm triciaallen: warning, about to possibly flood the tweetstream with #lrnchat. Please forgive or join in http://tweetchat.com/room/lrnchat
8:33:56 pm azmichelle: Hi everyone. I’m a community college librarian from AZ. #lrnchat
8:33:58 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, North Texas, Performance Technologist, etc. #lrnchat
8:34:00 pm JaneBozarth: @tgrevatt Hi, good to have you back! #lrnchat
8:34:07 pm sillym0nkey: SillyMonkey in ATL – ready to chat! #lrnchat
8:34:09 pm LearningPutty: Renee Robbins, www.learningputty.com, Chicago, IL #lrnchat
8:34:17 pm lrnchat: 6) Remember to include the #lrnchat in all posts. http://tweetchat.com, http://tweetgrid.com & http://twubs.com/lrnchat work well.
8:34:27 pm Quinnovator: and a cheery welcome back after US Thanksgiving to old and new #lrnchat participants!
8:34:27 pm busynessgirl: Math prof in Michigan, ed tech geek, trying to hack higher education a little bit at a time. #lrnchat
8:34:30 pm gminks: Gina from outside balmy Boston, community manager @ EMC, one class away from finishing fall semester in the IS grad program @ FSU #lrnchat
8:34:33 pm JaneBozarth: @sillym0nkey Glad you came back! #lrnchat
8:34:34 pm jsuzcampos: Hello from New Hampshire. Designer! Professor. Small Business Owner. Learning enthusiast. Mother of the Year. #lrnchat
8:34:41 pm scareytweets: Greetins from Houston, Tx. Shawn Carey here #lrnchat
8:34:53 pm reward75: Regina, NYC, jack of all things learning #lrnchat
8:34:53 pm RobRobertson: Hello from a very chilly Dallas! #lrnchat
8:34:54 pm oxala75: craig wiggins, elearning jockey working outside of Washington DC. #lrnchat
8:34:55 pm jmarrapodi: Jean Marrapodi, Providence, RI working at the intersection of high tech, low literacy and higher ed. Instructional Designer, et al. #lrnchat
8:35:09 pm sahana2802: Sahana from Pune, India. Instructional Designer with a passion for learning, social media and all things training. Forgot #lrnchat
8:35:11 pm kellygarber: Kelly Garber, Florida, ISD for hire #lrnchat
8:35:16 pm jmarrapodi: @jsuzcampos Love the mother of the year part! #lrnchat
8:35:20 pm atsc: Can someone remind me the site to aggregate #lrnchat conference session postings? Thanks…
8:35:44 pm Quinnovator: @Abhinava I’ve got my Trader Joe’s Vintage Ale to hand #lrnchat
8:35:51 pm bobbivernon: Bobbi Vernon, instructional design & computer-based testing, Charlottesville, VA. Good evening all! #lrnchat
8:35:53 pm jadekaz: @oxala75 “elearning jockey” – I likes! I’m stealing that :) #lrnchat
8:35:54 pm jmarrapodi: @RobRobertson It was in the 60’s in Providence. A veritable heat wave for December. #lrnchat
8:35:56 pm lrnchat: 7) 10 min before end, tell us if you need anything from the other #lrnchat participants. Time to reintroduce yourself, too. Links welcome.
8:35:56 pm ajeanne: Hello from San Jose, CA. Jeanne Farrington here… taking a break from writing recommendations for designers #lrnchat
8:35:57 pm JaneBozarth: I forgot I am ruler of Planet Jane and keep celebrities alive on Thursdays. #lrnchat
8:36:02 pm ThomasStone: Thomas Stone, from Element K in Rochester, New York. Ready for #lrnchat, with no snow on the ground at present.
8:36:13 pm jmarrapodi: @atsc http://tweetchat.com/room/lrnchat #lrnchat
8:36:16 pm BlakeGroup: Amy here–hello! Writer/graphic designer for utilities, education, healthcare, tech, prov servs. #lrnchat
8:36:23 pm ajeanne: @atsc Maybe you mean http://tweetchat.com/room/lrnchat #lrnchat
8:36:24 pm Abhinava: #lrnchat Abhinava S.N from Bangalore, India. Problem Solver, eLearning Professional, ID (in that order). Like to work with fuzzy ideas… :D
8:36:32 pm klowey22: tweetchat is great for aggregation @atsc #lrnchat
8:36:32 pm minutebio: I will be attending #lrnchat, pardon all the posts. #lrnchat/
8:36:39 pm lrnchat: 8) Please RT important points & vital questions asked for clarification, so we don’t miss them amid the lively fast-paced #lrnchat
8:36:39 pm RobRobertson: @Quinnovator A little Bitburger for me! #lrnchat
8:36:44 pm kelly_smith01: “ToTweet, perchance to lrnchat- ay, there’s the rub.” #lrnchat
8:36:45 pm gminks: important stuff RT @JaneBozarth: I forgot I am ruler of Planet Jane and keep celebrities alive on Thursdays. #lrnchat
8:36:46 pm JaneBozarth: Everyone @sahana2802 is IN India and gets up from sleep just to be with us #lrnchat
8:36:52 pm roninchef: Ahoy, ahoy! Mason Masteka, Elearning Curriculum Developer in Portland, ME. Open Source evangelist. #lrnchat
8:36:56 pm rhysatwork: g’day from Adelaide, Australia #lrnchat
8:37:00 pm Quinnovator: been drinking already, clearly RT @JaneBozarth: I forgot I am ruler of Planet Jane and keep celebrities alive on Thursdays. #lrnchat
8:37:04 pm RobRobertson: @jmarrapodi Love Providence! Got married there! #lrnchat
8:37:09 pm ajeanne: @JaneBozarth Hmm… I am “Queen of the Realm,” which many days is a pretty small place. :) #lrnchat
8:37:13 pm rmyardley: We’re waiting for bushfires so no snow on the ground :-) #lrnchat
8:37:14 pm jmarrapodi: Missing @sahana2802 in New England. So glad to see her @lrnchat. #lrnchat
8:37:23 pm usablelearning: What he said > RT @minutebio I will be attending #lrnchat, pardon all the posts. #lrnchat/
8:37:46 pm lrnchat: Q0 (our weekly #lrnchat welcome, also check out @lrn2day) What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
8:37:49 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator .Well yeah I said heuristic 7 minutes ago that means I win, right? #lrnchat
8:37:51 pm sahana2802: @JaneBozarth I love to be on #lrnchat and wouldn’t miss it for anything.
8:37:54 pm atsc: Andrew Chambers, University New South Wales, Sydney, Educational Developer and eLearning specialist in School of Business #lrnchat
8:37:54 pm elatedca: Gary Zee & a cast of hundreds with eLATED in Toronto, the Great White North #lrnchat
8:37:55 pm Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: “ToTweet, perchance to lrnchat- ay, there’s the rub.” #lrnchat
8:38:13 pm JaneBozarth: RT @kelly_smith01: “ToTweet, perchance to lrnchat- ay, there’s the rub.” #lrnchat
8:38:17 pm minutebio: Jeff, e-Learning Designer Baltimore, MD #lrnchat
8:38:17 pm marciamarcia: Dipping into the #lrnchat chatter tonight on community. Hope to see many concrete examples of their influence on learning.
8:38:17 pm oxala75: @jadekaz feel free! #lrnchat
8:38:18 pm gminks: yeah! RT @jmarrapodi: Missing @sahana2802 in New England. So glad to see her @lrnchat. #lrnchat
8:38:20 pm BlakeGroup: Rt @RobRobertson @jmarrapodi “Love Providence! Got married there!” Love it too: went to RISD!! #lrnchat
8:38:29 pm jsuzcampos: RT @JaneBozarth: Everyone @sahana2802 is IN India. Wakes up just to be with us<& she drinks DD coffee like a native New Englander! #lrnchat
8:38:32 pm lrnchat: Q1)What kinds of communities do you see in your orgs? In/formal? In/voluntary? Sanctioned or stealth?#lrnchat
8:38:34 pm kelly_smith01: Let's be careful with our word usage tonight. I only have one can of beer. #lrnchat
8:38:48 pm jmarrapodi: @scareytweets Welcome! Glad to have you. Love the newbies' ideas. #lrnchat
8:38:51 pm allonsdanser: Hate to miss #lrnchat but I've got to finish this assessment and a summative eval. I'm keeping one eye on it in twhirl though!
8:39:02 pm Abhinava: #lrnchat
8:39:05 pm LearningPutty: Q0 (our weekly #lrnchat welcome) What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week? #lrnchat
8:39:07 pm jadekaz: Q0 Learned that sesame oil is not a cooking oil. Condiment/finishing oil. #lrnchat
8:39:08 pm Quinnovator: @rmyardley fondly remember Xmas at the beach: all Aussies were at home in 40+ roasting dinner! We went to the beach ;) #lrnchat
8:39:14 pm jadekaz: RT @lrnchat: Q1)What kinds of communities do you see in your orgs? In/formal? In/voluntary? Sanctioned or stealth?#lrnchat #lrnchat
8:39:15 pm gminks: Q0 today I learned that nothing ever goes as planned #lrnchat
8:39:16 pm mpetersell: Q0 – today I learned that I will be working on a project that will require 50% of my time for the next 4-5 months #lrnchat
8:39:19 pm espnguyen: Forgive the flurry of #lrnchat posts if you're not into #lrnchat. Topic tonight is community's affect on learning
8:39:19 pm sahana2802: @gminks I am so glad to see you all here at #lrnchat. And now I can put names and faces together. :)
8:39:24 pm mpetersell: RT @lrnchat: Q1)What kinds of communities do you see in your orgs? In/formal? In/voluntary? Sanctioned or stealth?#lrnchat #lrnchat
8:39:27 pm gminks: RT @lrnchat: Q1)What kinds of communities do you see in your orgs? In/formal? In/voluntary? Sanctioned or stealth?#lrnchat #lrnchat
8:39:36 pm gminks: Q1 yes #lrnchat
8:39:39 pm jmarrapodi: RT @lrnchat: Q1)What kinds of communities do you see in your orgs? In/formal? In/voluntary? Sanctioned or stealth?#lrnchat #lrnchat
8:39:44 pm roninchef: @jmarrapodi I'll be down the weekend of the 18th to see the Christmas Carol at Trinity. How are the reviews this year? #lrnchat
8:39:45 pm JaneBozarth: @kelly_smith01 Amateur. #lrnchat
8:40:06 pm LearningPutty: Q0) Learned that use of majority paid and free apps decline significantly within the first three months of use. #lrnchat
8:40:08 pm rmyardley: Q1 ICT sharing expertise with community. Accelerating career development. #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:40:14 pm kellygarber: Q0 I learned that assembling a Bush desk is not, "as easy as 1, 2, 3" #lrnchat
8:40:24 pm cathycrea: Q1 Cathy Crea, reading and study skills instructor at a community college near St. Paul, MN. #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:40:31 pm LearningPutty: RT @lrnchat: Q1)What kinds of communities do you see in your orgs? In/formal? In/voluntary? Sanctioned or stealth? #lrnchat
8:40:31 pm gminks: can we define community first? Are we talking online communities? #lrnchat
8:40:31 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q1)What kinds of communities do you see in your orgs? In/formal? In/voluntary? Sanctioned or stealth? #lrnchat
8:40:32 pm gwoodill: RT Q1)What kinds of communities do you see in your orgs? In/formal? In/voluntary? Sanctioned or stealth?#lrnchat #lrnchat
8:40:34 pm jmarrapodi: Q0 Learned that managers without management skills make for an insane working environment. #lrnchat
8:40:42 pm sahana2802: RT @jmarrapodi RT @lrnchat: Q1)What kinds of communities do you see in your orgs? In/formal? In/voluntary? Sanctioned or stealth? #lrnchat
8:40:42 pm atsc: Q1) Lots of people acting stealthily but that depends on whether structure is firm or soft at the time… i.e. controlled or not… #lrnchat
8:40:45 pm RobRobertson: RT @lrnchat: Q1)What kinds of communities do you see in your orgs? In/formal? In/voluntary? Sanctioned or stealth?#lrnchat #lrnchat
8:40:45 pm reward75: Q0) I learned that visionaries are not practical #lrnchat
8:40:46 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) I see lots of formal communities (also known as committees) and lots of informal communities (also known as networks). #lrnchat
8:40:49 pm elatedca: is feudal an answer? RT @lrnchat: Q1)What kinds of communities..in your orgs? In/formal? In/voluntary? Sanctioned or stealth?#lrnchat
8:40:51 pm Quinnovator: Q0: (re)learned today; once I get past the barrier of actually *starting*, writing goes pretty well! #lrnchat @lrn2day
8:40:54 pm marciamarcia: What kinds of communities do you see in your orgs? In/formal? In/voluntary? Sanctioned or stealth? #lrnchat Q1
8:40:58 pm andrewoshea: Gr8 to be looking at this thread again…. #lrnchat
8:41:00 pm kellygarber: RT @lrnchat: Q1)What kinds of communities do you see in your orgs? In/formal? In/voluntary? Sanctioned or stealth? #lrnchat
8:41:02 pm klowey22: i learned all about the (LONG) process of writing a book… ppl still write books and apparently i'm ready to join :) #lrnchat
8:41:07 pm ajeanne: RT @LearningPutty: Q0) Learned that use of majority paid and free apps decline significantly within the first three months of use. #lrnchat
8:41:07 pm jadekaz: Q1 Large corporation – I see communities based on type of work. (E.g., IS, customer service, law, hr…) #lrnchat
8:41:14 pm rmyardley: Q1 Opportunities for people to share ideas and experiences informally #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:41:15 pm JaneBozarth: Q1: 1 Formal but actually outside confines of the particular org; in state govt, but not within one agency #lrnchat
8:41:23 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q1)What kinds of communities do you see in your orgs? In/formal? In/voluntary? Sanctioned or stealth?#lrnchat
8:41:35 pm BlakeGroup: Q1 I still see silos in cos, which blocks communities. Natural affinities can cross functions, but… #lrnchat
8:41:36 pm northlight: Hello from San Diego, CA #lrnchat
8:41:37 pm oxala75: Q0) learned that untearable paper can, in fact, be torn #lrnchat
8:41:44 pm jmarrapodi: @roninchef Christmas Carol @Trinityrep is always fun and full of surprises. Reviews have been good. #lrnchat
8:41:49 pm busynessgirl: RT @lrnchat: Q1)What kinds of communities do you see in your orgs? In/formal? In/voluntary? Sanctioned or stealth?#lrnchat
8:42:06 pm tgrevatt: This week I got to seen @julien (co-author of Trust Agents) speak – highly recommended reading on building/leading communities #lrnchat
8:42:10 pm RobRobertson: Q1) informal sanctioned but formal sanctioned is making a surge with us layering NewsGator on top of SharePoint…gaining traction. #lrnchat
8:42:11 pm Abhinava: RT @lrnchat: Q1)What kinds of communities do you see in your orgs? In/formal? In/voluntary? Sanctioned or stealth?#lrnchat
8:42:19 pm mpetersell: @jsuzcampos I like that characterization committees = formal; networks = informal #lrnchat
8:42:20 pm atsc: Q0) What I learned today: Restructuring happens… Change happens… People, Politics, Personality… Change can be good… #lrnchat
8:42:24 pm minutebio: Q1) I see communities in LinkedIn and Facebook, but they are more stealth than part of any official org. community #lrnchat
8:42:30 pm azmichelle: Agree RT @BlakeGroup: Q1 I still see silos in cos, which blocks communities. Natural affinities can cross functions, but… #lrnchat
8:42:38 pm ajeanne: Q1 In one org I belong to, people are mostly annoyed by the contributions people make to the group (via a Google Group). #lrnchat
8:42:43 pm gwoodill: Q1 Two layers – 1) senior analysts, 2) support staff – each group feels comfortable with each other. #lrnchat
8:42:46 pm cathycrea: Q1: I teach two learning communities: a group of students who take 2 or more classes together. Instructors work together. #lrnchat
8:42:54 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) I have always fought to be on intenal committees just to know client and/or product pipeline (training not always on radar). #lrnchat
8:43:01 pm ThomasStone: agreed! RT @Quinnovator: Q0: (re)learned today; once I get past the barrier of actually *starting*, writing goes pretty well! #lrnchat
8:43:01 pm JaneBozarth: Agree w/ @jadekaz; tend to form around type of work #lrnchat
8:43:12 pm ajeanne: Q1 I'm pretty sure most would rather the rest would just pipe down & be quiet already. #lrnchat
8:43:12 pm jsuzcampos: Q0) learned to manius aquillius died (literally) by choking on gold. (been saving that one all week, just for you). #lrnchat
8:43:18 pm LearningPutty: Q1) Organizations have all of these. Stealth is often seen as gossip. #lrnchat
8:43:20 pm rmyardley: We are experimenting at the industry association (AIIA) with structured invitations #lrnchat
8:43:21 pm jmarrapodi: Q1) Communities are invisible in virtual orgs. People tend to fly solo, but might attach to a workgroup or someone they've met. #lrnchat
8:43:22 pm Quinnovator: Q1: see (in 1 client) organically grown, self-formalize, voluntary, supported #lrnchat
8:43:25 pm ruth4916: Math teacher at cc in MO always interested in PD. #lrnchat
8:43:34 pm marciamarcia: @gminks I hope the conversation is about both online communities and the old fashion org kinds too. #lrnchat
8:43:35 pm roninchef: @jmarrapodi I grew up going every year (I'm from Warren). The version based on Handel's Messiah was my favorite. Very gothic. #lrnchat
8:43:39 pm atsc: Q1) Presently have lots of formal communities but a lot are hierachically driven so communication and inclusion can be an issue… #lrnchat
8:43:47 pm allonsdanser: I'm IDT PhD student learning how to write about field trials and summative evals. #lrnchat Lots of trials/testing/evaluating going on.
8:43:47 pm klowey22: q1) we see a blend all of those kinds of communities… mostly 'stealth' and informal – cultivated around professional interests #lrnchat
8:43:54 pm busynessgirl: Q1 In academia, many organizations are voluntary or unsanctioned. Committee work is largely voluntary. Cliques are unsanctioned. #lrnchat
8:44:01 pm hjarche: RT @LearningPutty Learned use of most paid & free apps decline significantly within the first 3 months | Twitter is the exception! #lrnchat
8:44:14 pm ajeanne: Q1 In another group, folks have created the best learning community I've seen yet… and quite a few of them are grandmothers. :) #lrnchat
8:44:16 pm kelly_smith01: Don't forget Subject Matter Networks (which could be a committee) #lrnchat
8:44:28 pm oxala75: Q1) Formal, tribal communities inside my workplace. Largely voluntary, mostly formal #lrnchat
8:44:34 pm gminks: @marciamarcia thx for the clarification :) #lrnchat
8:44:34 pm cathycrea: Q1: My department works well together as a community. Common goals, values, philosophy. Can't be forced. #lrnchat
8:44:36 pm rmyardley: The AIIA collaboration group communities are small and few participants drive learning #lrnchat
8:44:36 pm gwoodill: Q1) I hang out w/ the Toronto e-learning community. eLATED is a social group that meets every 2 mths. http://www.elated.ca #lrnchat
8:44:36 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth you're just fishing #lrnchat
8:44:39 pm reward75: Q1) My org doen't learning communities although I am stealthy trying to start some #lrnchat
8:44:42 pm burnhilda: Annie at Boise State but in the UK. Instructor in virtual worlds and social networking, elearning and all that. #lrnchat
8:44:55 pm RobRobertson: Q1) we have a few stealth as well but they are being used to gather best practices to help them go formal/supported #lrnchat
8:45:08 pm BlakeGroup: Q1 Small cos can create comms/let them evolve. More challenging in large orgs. SocMe helps both. Builds bridges. #lrnchat
8:45:17 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) In my experience, communities form around common interest (social, function, expertise) or simply to overthrow bad management #lrnchat
8:45:21 pm klowey22: is anyone mapping these communities in their orgs or just aware of them? #lrnchat
8:45:25 pm JaneBozarth: @marciamarcia no online comms that I know of here #lrnchat
8:45:30 pm ThomasStone: Q0 Learned this week… I should have bought gold many months ago, when I first said I would #lrnchat
8:45:32 pm Abhinava: #lrnchat Q1 Communities are defined need – the organization (and life) creates multiple needs – communities thus form!
8:45:35 pm kelly_smith01: I should have called Subject Matter Networks a "community" #lrnchat
8:45:35 pm mpetersell: Q1 – I see informal communities form within formal committees; people with like/interests and expertise just gravitate together #lrnchat
8:45:44 pm nancyrubin: How do you create a sense of community? How do you turn a project team into a community? #lrnchat
8:45:46 pm ruth4916: Our committee work is part of our contract, but work ethic on committees varies widely. #lrnchat
8:45:51 pm cindyhugg: sorry to miss tonight's #lrnchat… am delivering a virtual training session this evening – look forward to reading transcript
8:45:53 pm marciamarcia: @atsc do you think hierarchical driven means ppl less willing to bond? talk? feel connected? #lrnchat
8:45:56 pm jadekaz: @burnhilda Hi Annie. Nice to see another Boise State student. Are you in the IPT program, too? #lrnchat
8:45:59 pm reward75: Q1) My org doesn't have learning communities although I am stealthy trying to start some #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:46:08 pm BlakeGroup: Interesting chat earlier this week on teams vs communities. Relates to this chat! (looking for transcript) #lrnchat
8:46:09 pm JaneBozarth: RT @jsuzcampos Q1) …communities form around common interest (social, function, expertise) or simply to overthrow bad management #lrnchat
8:46:09 pm RobRobertson: @burnhilda Welcome Burnhilda! #lrnchat
8:46:17 pm gminks: We have formal communities (I manage this one http://bit.ly/C32rh), informal ones based on technologies where I work #lrnchat
8:46:29 pm minutebio: RT @BlakeGroup: Q1 Small cos can create comms/let them evolve. More challenging in large orgs.(TRUE) SocMe helps both.. #lrnchat
8:46:33 pm Quinnovator: in other clients/situations, have seen: emergent & top-down, structured & self-organizing, and even none (officially, at least ;) #lrnchat
8:46:35 pm britz: We are informal, stealth…voluntary… keeps us on our toes…keeps 'em sane :) #lrnchat
8:46:45 pm JaneBozarth: RT @mpetersell see informal comms form within formal committees; people with like/interests and expertise just gravitate #lrnchat
8:46:45 pm gwoodill: Q0, Q1: I joined a local political group. Learning lots about behind the scenes organizing. #lrnchat
8:46:47 pm dpontefract: Communities: situational, hierarchical, communal, project-based, transversal, positional & farcical #lrnchat
8:46:49 pm jmarrapodi: @RobRobertson Providence is an amazing place. Always tons happening. #lrnchat
8:46:59 pm Quinnovator: you go! RT @reward75: Q1) My org doesn't have learning communities although I am stealthy trying to start some #lrnchat
8:47:04 pm moehlert: Hey #lrnchat ! Sorry not making it tonight. Just back from #iitsec and beat. Happy wishes 4 awesome discussion and I look fwd 2 transcript
8:47:05 pm atsc: Q1) Online communities are less represented in our large organisation and almost all focused around large projects. eg Blackboard 9 #lrnchat
8:47:29 pm kelly_smith01: Also industry communities (such as a cross-vendor group) which influence the way business is conducted #lrnchat
8:47:36 pm scareytweets: @reward75 What are some barriers to getting started that you see? #lrnchat
8:47:37 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) I have also see lots of communities form to prove the theory that "common enemies make strange bed-fellows" (self-organized) #lrnchat
8:47:40 pm azmichelle: Q1) Work communities also change based on changing projects, goals, etc. #lrnchat
8:47:41 pm gminks: some of the biggest informal communities I'm in at work are email distro lists #lrnchat
8:47:46 pm pedepede2: Q1) informal corridor networking; some FB, Twitter, LinkedIn though not v. active around work topics; hoping 4 more soon #lrnchat
8:47:48 pm ajeanne: Q1 A friend moderates a bunch of groups–approving every post (or not) by everybody. Sets my teeth on edge just thining about it. #lrnchat
8:47:51 pm jmarrapodi: Q1) Communities form to meet a need. That may be formal or informal. #lrnchat
8:47:53 pm busynessgirl: Here's a subquestion for you all: Are YOU a member of more formal or informal communities in your organization? #lrnchat
8:47:57 pm sahana2802: Q1: I see mostly involuntary ones forming to address a specific need at a point in time, then dissolving and reforming again. #lrnchat
8:48:00 pm bobbivernon: We have a variety of communities, in-person & online, formal & informal. Hierarchy influences participation. #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:48:00 pm gwoodill: @nancyrubin How to form community? French solution – lots of food and drink… #lrnchat
8:48:11 pm Quinnovator: takes nurturing RT @nancyrubin: How do you create a sense of community? How do you turn a project team into a community? #lrnchat
8:48:19 pm jmarrapodi: @moehlert I'll miss your witticisms. Rest well. #lrnchat
8:48:21 pm jadekaz: Q1 Also see communities form based on years of service. Lots of "lifers" in org, long friendships equal communities. #lrnchat
8:48:29 pm atsc: Q1) Have note an uptake of using wikis for some less formal communities but still related to work projects… Roll on Googlewave? #lrnchat
8:48:31 pm Abhinava: #lrnchat I believe need creates…! as learning managers, we ought to try creating need – learning and/or performance is a step away
8:48:34 pm gwoodill: So what does virtual food and drink look like? #lrnchat
8:48:38 pm espnguyen: Q1) Not to focus on a tool, but our Yammer community has shown the value of transparent communications in our org #lrnchat
8:48:46 pm roninchef: Q1 My org has a semi-formal training community. Since each line of biz has their own Training Dept. We get together and swap ideas. #lrnchat
8:48:49 pm gminks: And my I work for the company that owns Documentum (of eRoom fame..) #lrnchat
8:48:49 pm rmyardley: @scareytweets getting critical mass to discussion. starter group seems important. #lrnchat
8:48:57 pm Quinnovator: RT @dpontefract: Communities: situational, hierarchical, communal, project-based, transversal, positional & farcical #lrnchat
8:49:04 pm jadekaz: RT @dpontefract: Communities: situational, hierarchical, communal, project-based, transversal, positional & farcical #lrnchat
8:49:04 pm gminks: RT @gwoodill: @nancyrubin How to form community? French solution – lots of food and drink… #lrnchat
8:49:06 pm kellygarber: Q1) where there are people, there are cliques. These informal groups influence the building of sanctioned, formal communities. #lrnchat
8:49:10 pm mpetersell: Trying to build online communities out of training classes by connecting them and resources using SharePoint #lrnchat
8:49:14 pm britz: @sahana2802 Ditto #lrnchat
8:49:16 pm marciamarcia: Informal corridor networking. Love that phrase from @pedepede2 #lrnchat
8:49:18 pm pedepede2: Q1) we tend toward 'committees' rather than 'communities'. Very different mindset #lrnchat
8:49:18 pm gminks: @espnguyen has invoked the Y demon… #lrnchat
8:49:23 pm minutebio: Q1) Large orgs. tend to try to "formalize" soc med. Currently trying to get my org to grasp infrml learning is pulled, not pushed #lrnchat
8:49:23 pm jmarrapodi: RT @sahana2802: Q1: I see mostly invol. ones forming 2 address a specific need @ point in time, then dissolving & reforming again. #lrnchat
8:49:40 pm sahana2802: RT @Quinnovator RT @dpontefract: Communities: situational, hierarchical, communal, project-based transversal, positional & farcical #lrnchat
8:49:57 pm tgrevatt: Q1) City-wide here in Ottawa, twttr is energising existing & new communities, fascinating to see & be a part of. #lrnchat
8:49:59 pm sillym0nkey: Q1) I have noticed that communities w/i orgs tend to be careful these days- more stealth now – watching thier back #lrnchat
8:50:04 pm badsquare: RT @Quinnovator RT @dpontefract: Communities: situational, hierarchical, communal, project-based, transversal positional & farcical #lrnchat
8:50:07 pm reward75: @scareytweets getting people to join together and willing to try. Many feel they're too busy or it's not business #lrnchat
8:50:09 pm atsc: @jadekaz "lifership" tends to aid inclusion in communities… #lrnchat
8:50:16 pm rmyardley: @mpetersell can social media build class alumni? #lrnchat
8:50:28 pm hjarche: all of my learning communities are informal – not sure I could handle formal ones anymore #lrnchat
8:50:29 pm kelly_smith01: Functional level professional (such as C-level execs) may have a community w/members from multiple organizations #lrnchat
8:50:32 pm busynessgirl: I think I used to be in more formal communities, and now participate (or lead) more informal than formal. #lrnchat
8:50:32 pm bobbivernon: This is intriguing (& so true!). RT @pedepede2: Q1) we tend toward committees rather than communities. Very different mindset #lrnchat
8:50:33 pm Quinnovator: @dpontefract I want to join a farcical community, oh wait, I *am* in one #lrnchat
8:50:34 pm andrewoshea: Q1. How do you differentiate between TEAM and COMMUNITY at work? #lrnchat
8:50:41 pm atsc: @pedepede2 At the top we have committees, lower down we have less formal and at the bottom informal… #lrnchat
8:50:55 pm sahana2802: RT @hjarche all of my learning communities are informal – not sure I could handle formal ones anymore #lrnchat
8:50:58 pm klowey22: @marciamarcia @pedepede2 especially if that corridor is virtual and spans the globe …with the same corridor feeling/engagement :) #lrnchat
8:51:16 pm reward75: Same here! RT @mpetersell: Trying to build communities out of training by connecting them using SharePoint #lrnchat
8:51:17 pm marciamarcia: @mpetersell Curious why you say it's a "community" you're trying to build rather than a team? #lrnchat
8:51:22 pm olavur: #lrnchat Hello from Faroe Islands – between Iceland and Scotland – http://bit.ly/6z8ZMT Burning the midnight oil(sim)
8:51:27 pm KoreenOlbrish: Missing #lrnchat tonight…just getting back from #iitsec and the kiddos get priority! But missing all the fun…sigh.
8:51:36 pm sahana2802: RT @andrewoshea Q1. How do you differentiate between TEAM and COMMUNITY at work? #lrnchat
8:51:37 pm atsc: @andrewoshea Teams work on projects… #lrnchat
8:51:48 pm roninchef: @gminks You know, we say that but it has been a while since ol' Y has popped into a #lrnchat
8:51:54 pm jadekaz: @atsc Yes! The lifers are great informal teachers/learners with each other and with newcomers. #lrnchat
8:51:55 pm sillym0nkey: RT @andrewoshea: Q1. How do you differentiate between TEAM and COMMUNITY at work? Great ? esp forced teams #lrnchat
8:52:01 pm gwoodill: Q1: I moved to the country. Village of 250. Invited village to a garden party. 70 showed up. First time some people met. #lrnchat
8:52:03 pm BlakeGroup: Q1 Teams often are formed top-down. Communities tend to form bottom-up. #lrnchat
8:52:06 pm klowey22: @reward75 @scareytweets – thats exactly what we face….perception of time and priority and value #lrnchat
8:52:09 pm gminks: I think individual classes I teach form little communities for the week. If they don't I feel like I've failed.. #lrnchat
8:52:18 pm Abhinava: Agree +1 RT @sahana2802: RT @hjarche all of my learning communities are informal – not sure I could handle formal ones anymore #lrnchat
8:52:22 pm hjarche: @sahana2802 especially since I'm officially a curmudgeon now ;-) #lrnchat
8:52:33 pm gminks: @roninchef thats true #lrnchat
8:52:40 pm jadekaz: RT @BlakeGroup: Q1 Teams often are formed top-down. Communities tend to form bottom-up. #lrnchat
8:52:44 pm gwoodill: @olavur Hi Olavur. good to see you. #lrnchat
8:52:51 pm cathycrea: RT @BlakeGroup: Q1 Teams often are formed top-down. Communities tend to form bottom-up. #lrnchat
8:52:53 pm mpetersell: @marciamarcia the training participants in our classes come from different geographies and go back to them; so not a pure team #lrnchat
8:52:57 pm JaneBozarth: @andrewoshea Not one thing in common there #lrnchat
8:53:05 pm Quinnovator: RT @gwoodill: moved to the country. Village of 250. Invited village to a garden party. 70 showed up. First time some people met. #lrnchat
8:53:07 pm chambo_online: Lisa Chamberlin – late to the party. #lrnchat
8:53:09 pm kelly_smith01: An informal community within an organization may direct/influence formant/structure of learning/documentation #lrnchat
8:53:11 pm sahana2802: Team can be formed with ppl of diverse interests; Community forms because people with the same interest come together, gravitate. #lrnchat
8:53:11 pm espnguyen: @roninchef @gminks I'll drink :) #lrnchat
8:53:16 pm sillym0nkey: RT @gwoodill: Q1: Moved 2 country.Village of 250. Invited village 2 garden party. 70 showed up. 1st time some met. WOW! #lrnchat
8:53:17 pm britz: Q1 Team – i have to be a part of…community I choose #lrnchat
8:53:19 pm bobbivernon: RT @BlakeGroup: Q1 Teams often are formed top-down. Communities tend to form bottom-up. #lrnchat
8:53:22 pm minutebio: RT @jadekaz: RT @BlakeGroup: Q1 Teams often are formed top-down. Communities tend to form bottom-up. #lrnchat
8:53:26 pm gminks: not sure I agree — RT @jadekaz: RT @BlakeGroup: Q1 Teams often are formed top-down. Communities tend to form bottom-up. #lrnchat
8:53:31 pm klowey22: @andrewoshea teams tend to have reporting relationships #lrnchat
8:53:42 pm chambo_online: Q1) Teams are created, communities grow. #lrnchat
8:53:43 pm Quinnovator: @gwoodill when moved to this neighborhood, invited everyone over. Reignited a moribund 'hood, now twice yearly parties! #lrnchat
8:53:46 pm LearningPutty: Q1) Communities are formed when the individuals of a group see a common benefit #lrnchat
8:53:48 pm JaneBozarth: Well, for one, "Team" is something that repels… #lrnchat
8:53:50 pm rmyardley: @gwoodill ditto moved to small town 1 hr out of Melbourne finding very powerful groups within community. especially for learning. #lrnchat
8:53:53 pm Abhinava: @andrewoshea I think…. A TEAM has a common Goal/Purpose… while a COMMUNITY has a common interest/direction #lrnchat
8:53:56 pm atsc: @jadekaz Staying linkedin is an issue especially if you move within a big organisation. Virtual techs make it easier… #lrnchat
8:53:56 pm pedepede2: How to get pulling in same direction? RT @minutebio: trying to get my org to grasp infrml learning is pulled, not pushed #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:53:57 pm jmarrapodi: @kellygarber Clique intimates exclusion though. #lrnchat
8:54:05 pm mpetersell: @marciamarcia We do try to build a sense of team by having people contribute to the org thru the community work #lrnchat
8:54:06 pm JaneBozarth: Oops did I say that out loud? #lrnchat
8:54:08 pm Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: An informal community within an organization may direct/influence formant/structure of learning/documentation #lrnchat
8:54:12 pm reward75: It's more topic based than project based – RT @marciamarcia: Curious why you say its a "community" rather than a team? #lrnchat
8:54:17 pm roninchef: @gminks Us old timers still carry the scars. To ol' Y. #lrnchat
8:54:26 pm ThomasStone: What do you mean "now"? Heh. RT @hjarche: @sahana2802 especially since I'm officially a curmudgeon now ;-) #lrnchat
8:54:27 pm dpontefract: @Quinnovator you should see some of the 'communities out there – I call them cultumunities' #lrnchat
8:54:28 pm gminks: teams are more transactional than communities (have SLAs with other teams, etc) #lrnchat
8:54:34 pm Quinnovator: @kelly_smith01 agreed; can get communities to start creating learning/documentation! #lrnchat
8:54:37 pm klowey22: RT @Abhinava: @andrewoshea I think…. A TEAM has a common Goal/Purpose… while a COMMUNITY has a common interest/direction #lrnchat
8:54:38 pm hjarche: RT @BlakeGroup Teams often are formed top-down. Communities tend to form bottom-up. | hard to grow a garden top-down ;-) #lrnchat
8:54:38 pm atsc: @bobbivernon Definately agree with that. Is our situation her in a big Uni… #lrnchat
8:54:39 pm sillym0nkey: RT @bobbivernon: RT @BlakeGroup:Q1 Teams formed top-down.Communities tend 2form bottom-up. Yes! unless mgt did good hiring #lrnchat
8:54:52 pm kelly_smith01: Q1 an internal community may provide informal learning of processes/procedures for new employees #lrnchat
8:54:56 pm sahana2802: @hjarche :) Formal groups become too involved with rules and less in collaboration and just exchange. #lrnchat
8:55:03 pm busynessgirl: RT @kellygarber Clique = Good old boys network … now maybe some good old girls networks #lrnchat
8:55:06 pm ryanseltzer: RT @LearningPutty: Q1) Communities are formed when the individuals of a group see a common benefit #lrnchat
8:55:12 pm jadekaz: RT @gminks: teams are more transactional than communities (have SLAs with other teams, etc) #lrnchat
8:55:15 pm reward75: I agree – RT @chambo_online: Q1) Teams are created, communities grow. #lrnchat
8:55:18 pm ajeanne: RT @dpontefract: @Quinnovator you should see some of the communities out there – I call them cultumunities #lrnchat
8:55:19 pm marciamarcia: @mpetersell Very helpful. And probably community phrase resonates more across the world. #lrnchat
8:55:21 pm JaneBozarth: RT @BlakeGroup Teams often are formed top-down. Communities tend to form bottom-up. | hard to grow a garden top-down ;-) #lrnchat
8:55:31 pm azmichelle: For sure! Overused. RT @JaneBozarth: Well, for one, "Team" is something that repels… #lrnchat
8:55:32 pm rmyardley: communities need a biding purpose. saw that problem with comm of practice. #lrnchat
8:55:48 pm atsc: @gminks Are these formal SLA's? I have seen that term used for a while now… #lrnchat
8:56:02 pm busynessgirl: @Quinnovator Cultimunities (LOL) … you mean like this one? #lrnchat
8:56:04 pm kellygarber: @jmarrapodi yes, it does and isn't that what happens? – often times, it is about who you know. #lrnchat
8:56:06 pm minutebio: RT @pedepede2: How to get pulling in same direction? – If business goals were clearly communicated to all it would help. #lrnchat
8:56:08 pm gwoodill: Learning about political communities. Thinking about adding QR tags to political signs to draw people into our group. #lrnchat
8:56:11 pm hjarche: @ThomasStone 'cause @downes wrote about it; it's now "official" ;-) #lrnchat
8:56:25 pm Abhinava: #lrnchat Q1) Infact… We are working on creating a social learning platform – should have the first beta out early next year…
8:56:34 pm gminks: @JaneBozarth unless you have a topsy turvy tomato :) #lrnchat
8:56:40 pm jsuzcampos: You can get cut from a team. I don't think you can get cut from a community? (ex-communicated maybe, but not cut). #lrnchat
8:56:47 pm BlakeGroup: Q1 Teams often have more defined leadership. Communities more flexible, but need leadership too to sustain. #lrnchat
8:56:49 pm jadekaz: Q1 Also see clear "community" lines sometimes drawn between managment and non-management #lrnchat
8:56:51 pm sillym0nkey: RT @Quinnovator you should see some of the communities out there – I call them cultumunities- Well put #lrnchat
8:56:56 pm atsc: @rmyardley More like "Binding" purpose… Communities can be hard to form as less formal but even harder to keep steamed up… #lrnchat
8:57:11 pm Quinnovator: do we want to distinguish between communities and networks? Think community overused, most are networks #lrnchat
8:57:32 pm Quinnovator: reckon isn't community until people actually care about others, support through tough times, help develop, etc #lrnchat
8:57:40 pm gminks: @atsc oh yes formal SLAs. #lrnchat
8:57:49 pm kelly_smith01: RT @BlakeGroup: Q1 Teams often have more defined leadership. Communities more flexible, but need leadership too to sustain. #lrnchat
8:57:51 pm mpetersell: @marciamarcia People feel a sense of community after a shared learning experience; we've tried w/out training first, but no go #lrnchat
8:57:58 pm sahana2802: RT @Quinnovator do we want to distinguish between communities and networks? Think community overused, most are networks #lrnchat
8:58:04 pm rmyardley: @atsc a typo I meant binding! :-) #lrnchat
8:58:06 pm cammybean: Q1: team is about the project; community is about the people, camaraderie, a shared sense of purpose #lrnchat
8:58:08 pm busynessgirl: So, are the students in a class a team or a community? From this discussion, a "team" I think. #lrnchat
8:58:15 pm JaneBozarth: Back to Q1: What communities exist in your orgs? #lrnchat
8:58:24 pm pedepede2: btw, Elgg Campus is newly out RT @Abhinava We are working on creating a social learning platform #lrnchat
8:58:30 pm cammybean: The community is all about the love, man! #lrnchat
8:58:30 pm jsuzcampos: Also, on a team everyone has a unique role (purpose). In a community, roles are much more blended and transient, purpose is shared. #lrnchat
8:58:31 pm andrewoshea: I agree with the comments on the TEAM/COMM comment. Just see some companies trying to promote community feel when it's clearly not! #lrnchat
8:58:34 pm jadekaz: Q1 Like the idea of communities as gardens. Wildflowers exist, but flourishing gardens take care #lrnchat
8:58:38 pm gwoodill: Gary Zee(elated) in Toronto organizes 1 hour PD session, in a bar. Vendor buys food and drink. 50-60 attend. Good model. #lrnchat
8:58:41 pm roninchef: @jsuzcampos I think the term is shunned. #lrnchat
8:58:45 pm lrnchat: Q2) What kinds of activites are communities engaged in? What do they do? How does 'community' occur?#lrnchat
8:58:46 pm sillym0nkey: if we are talking about orgs – then it's communities rather than networks, right? *lrnchat #lrnchat
8:58:48 pm sahana2802: RT @cammybean Q1: team is about the project; community is about the people, camaraderie, a shared sense of purpose #lrnchat Like this!
8:58:52 pm gminks: @jsuzcampos sure you can get dumped frm a community, members can shut off your access to communication #lrnchat
8:58:52 pm ajeanne: Q1 In my community of mostly grandmothers, people actually raise money for those who hit hard times. #lrnchat
8:58:53 pm kellygarber: pass the kool-aid … #lrnchat
8:58:58 pm chambo_online: RT @cammybean: Q1: team is about the project; community is about the people, camaraderie, a shared sense of purpose #lrnchat
8:59:07 pm atsc: Q1) Hmmm… How are teams and communities led? Facilitated? #lrnchat
8:59:08 pm rmyardley: RT @Quinnovator: do we want to distinguish between communities and networks? Think community overused, most are networks Agree #lrnchat
8:59:12 pm kelly_smith01: Are thre virtual communities. I have spent most of my time in the last few years on virtual teams. #lrnchat
8:59:14 pm reward75: @Quinnovator IYO what would be the difference btw community and network? #lrnchat
8:59:21 pm mpetersell: RT @cammybean: Q1: team is about the project; community is about the people, camaraderie, a shared sense of purpose – nice/concise #lrnchat
8:59:26 pm bobbivernon: @Quinnovator What's the difference b/t community and network? #lrnchat
8:59:26 pm marciamarcia: Communities work best when 1) place-based 2) interest-oriented or 3) culture sharing. Purpose may/may not define #lrnchat
8:59:33 pm LearningPutty: RT @jsuzcampos: Also, on a team everyone has a unique role. In community, roles are more blended and transient, purpose is shared. #lrnchat
8:59:34 pm sillym0nkey: RT @ kellygarber: pass the kool-aid … #lrnchat
8:59:41 pm jadekaz: RT @cammybean: Q1: team is about the project; community is about the people, camaraderie, a shared sense of purpose #lrnchat
8:59:43 pm jsuzcampos: RT @roninchef: I think the term is shunned. <>#lrnchat
9:00:07 pm chambo_online: My team is my dept.at work, my community are the ppl I choose. #lrnchat
9:00:09 pm jmarrapodi: RT @marciamarcia: Communities work best when 1) place-based 2) interest-oriented or 3) culture sharing. Purpose may/may not define #lrnchat
9:00:10 pm mpetersell: RT @marciamarcia: Communities work best when 1) place-based 2) interest-oriented or 3) culture sharing. Purpose may/may not define #lrnchat
9:00:27 pm LearningPutty: @marciamarcia can you elaborate on place-based? #lrnchat
9:00:43 pm sillym0nkey: RT @ chambo_online: My team is my dept.at work, my community are the ppl I choose. #lrnchat
9:00:43 pm JaneBozarth: Q2 Also intentionally provides development opps and chance for each other to dry-run, showcase, get feedback #lrnchat
9:00:43 pm sahana2802: RT @jsuzcampos On a team everyone has a unique role (purpose). In a community, roles r more blended & transient, purpose is shared. #lrnchat
9:00:45 pm gminks: RT @cammybean: Q1: team is about the project; community is about the people, camaraderie, a shared sense of purpose – nice/concise #lrnchat
9:00:52 pm klowey22: q2 communities are engaged in webex’s, shared webinars, discussion threads, document sharing..some f2f too #lrnchat
9:00:53 pm mpetersell: Q2 – communities strengthen when they can do something meaningful together #lrnchat
9:00:55 pm busynessgirl: Q2 Many communities form to unite against a perceived problem. Can’t think of a committee that didn’t start this way. #lrnchat
9:00:58 pm chambo_online: @marciamarcia What do you mean by “place-based”? We form community online from diverse places. #lrnchat
9:01:03 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What kinds of activites are communities engaged in? What do they do? How does ‘community’ occur?#lrnchat
9:01:07 pm gwoodill: @Quinnovator Communities = Networks + Food + Drink? I’ve got a theme going. #lrnchat
9:01:07 pm ajeanne: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What kinds of activities are communities engaged in? What do they do? How does community occur? #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:01:08 pm ruth4916: Classes that are weak responding may sometimes be a team but if team exists it may be dysfunctional. #lrnchat
9:01:11 pm rmyardley: Liked the comments about people, place and personality (Richard Florida) #lrnchat
9:01:15 pm bobbivernon: Q1. Does changing nomenclature change the group dynamics? Ex. renaming a “team” to a “community” – what changes besides the name? #lrnchat
9:01:19 pm JaneBozarth: @chambo_online Kind of like relatives! They’re the ones we’re stuck with, friends are who we choose. Sometimes lines blur. #lrnchat
9:01:20 pm oxala75: @jsuzcampos yep. community and its priorities stay with you. #lrnchat
9:01:21 pm nancyrubin: I think teams work better when there is synergy – which to me is a sense of community. Why separate instead of incorporate concepts #lrnchat
9:01:26 pm valdiskrebs: @marciamarcia place may aldso be space… cyberspace… answer is Yes, all three are important for community! #lrnchat
9:01:26 pm busynessgirl: RT @cammybean: Q1: team is about the project; community is about the people, camaraderie, a shared sense of purpose – nice/concise #lrnchat
9:01:40 pm Abhinava: #lrnchat Q2: 90% time-pass 10% actual work – but if a community has critical mass then that 10% translates to a LOT of work! :P
9:01:41 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: Q2: trainer community in NC gov. developed a good competency-based train-the-trainer course on its own Think non billable w/value #lrnchat
9:04:46 pm pedepede2: @Abhinava: @busynessgirl If we all connected perfectly, no need for twitter. Perceived problem = community #lrnchat
9:04:48 pm hjarche: Diff between groups/markets & networks/communities = Co-operation is not collaboration http://is.gd/5bLe7 #lrnchat
9:04:59 pm littleasklab: OH –”the diff between community & network – if someone disappears from a community, it’s noticed.” #lrnchat
9:05:08 pm cammybean: Q2: What helps a community occur? It’s something about the love. (I’m all about the love tonight). #lrnchat
9:05:18 pm sillym0nkey: Communities come together because of common problems, joys or interests. It can also break them apart. #lrnchat
9:05:25 pm LearningPutty: She strikes again! RT @jsuzcampos: Q2) Communities R engaged in activities born from shared purpose – the internal motivator. #lrnchat
9:05:31 pm gminks: @cammybean communities have leaders. usually the 1% of the 90-9-1 #lrnchat
9:05:35 pm roninchef: Q2 Community occurs around a shared interest. Give, take nurture and grow. #lrnchat
9:05:38 pm ajeanne: Communities are groups of people with shared [fill in the blank]. Usually involves some similarity or fellowship. #lrnchat
9:05:40 pm mpetersell: RT @littleasklab: OH –”the diff between community & network – if someone disappears from a community, its noticed.” #lrnchat
9:05:43 pm atsc: @gminks Good point about teams having sense of community. But strength and worth of team may relate to leadership of team too… #lrnchat
9:05:45 pm elatedca: Sounds like strategy vs. tactics RT @andrewoshea Community=fcsed on common goal/s. Team=forced to focus on common goal! Thoughts? #lrnchat
9:05:50 pm SMHoenig: true RT @littleasklab OH –”the diff between community & network – if someone disappears from a community, it’s noticed.” #lrnchat
9:05:52 pm klowey22: @sillym0nkey great point- i find the ‘best’ communities actually have quite a bit of open conflict #lrnchat
9:05:53 pm tgrevatt: Q2) Community also includes support, encouragement (even a little banter, humour etc). #lrnchat
9:05:55 pm RobRobertson: @lrnchat Lrnchat protip – do not forget the bottle opener or you miss a heap-o-tweets grabbing it – Kirkpatrick #lrnchat
9:05:56 pm busynessgirl: @nancyrubin In our college, google chat has done more to create community than anything else (and it’s not a supported app). #lrnchat
9:05:58 pm BlakeGroup: RT @nancyrubin @cammybean IMO, the best teams + best communities share many qualities. Blend the strengths of each. #lrnchat
9:06:04 pm oxala75: Q2) communities engage in classic learning – members learn seamlessly from those with whom they identify. #lrnchat
9:06:08 pm cammybean: RT @littleasklab community motivation often the “love currency” and team motivation more often the “cash currency” #lrnchat
9:06:17 pm jadekaz: @mpetersell I don’t know. I’ve seen communities form without an explicit reason except wanting to learn and share with each other. #lrnchat
9:06:29 pm Quinnovator: Q2: encourage participation, demonstrate caring, share practices. Needs leadership, modeling, nurturing #lrnchat
9:06:34 pm bobbivernon: Q1. Communities are sustainable despite ebb & flow of participants. Teams not so much. #lrnchat
9:06:40 pm gminks: RT @roninchef: Q2 Community occurs around a shared interest. Give, take nurture and grow. #lrnchat
9:06:42 pm ajeanne: A network is a group of people who exchange info, contacts, experience… #lrnchat
9:06:44 pm jadekaz: Ha! RT @littleasklab OH –”the diff between community & network – if someone disappears from a community, its noticed.” #lrnchat
9:06:45 pm sahana2802: Comm may need 1/2 ppl 2 drive towards the purpose. Often many become part of a comm but tend to lurk. In a team, ppl can’t lurk. #lrnchat
9:06:47 pm gwoodill: @littleasklab If a hub disappears from a network it is also noticed. #lrnchat
9:07:00 pm ajeanne: “community” and “network” are not mutually exclusive #lrnchat
9:07:08 pm rmyardley: The best communities are where people look out for each other. When people offer (to help) because they notice… #lrnchat
9:07:27 pm BlakeGroup: Teams often disband when project or whatever is over. Communities seem to devolve more slowly. #lrnchat
9:07:32 pm pedepede2: RT @oxala75: Q2) communities engage in classic learning – members learn seamlessly from those with whom they identify. #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:07:38 pm chambo_online: Q2) Community extends beyond the institution or organization where it formed – doesn’t just meet “there”. #lrnchat
9:07:40 pm marciamarcia: What he said> RT @valdiskrebs place may also be space (cyberspace). All three are important for community! #lrnchat
9:07:43 pm cammybean: @nancyrubin We’re trying to use Yammer to build community within our distributed org. It helps us virtual worker types. #lrnchat
9:07:45 pm elatedca: @andrewoshea while everyone strives to shape community vision, most work on local supporting tactics #lrnchat
9:07:50 pm mpetersell: @jadekaz agreed,but I see my role to help more communities form to share info; it doesnt work until we give them a useful task #lrnchat
9:07:55 pm LearningPutty: That’s what they get RT @mpetersell I’ve seen communities form w/o explicit reason except wanting 2 learn & share w/ each other. #lrnchat
9:08:01 pm JaneBozarth: Back to Q2: What are the communities doing? Activities? . #lrnchat
9:08:05 pm kelly_smith01: RT @BlakeGroup: Teams often disband when project or whatever is over. Communities seem to devolve more slowly. #lrnchat
9:08:08 pm jadekaz: Community are friends network are acquaintences? RT @ajeanne: “community” and “network” are not mutually exclusive #lrnchat
9:08:09 pm valdiskrebs: @SMHoenig IMHO the network is the foundation/structure under the community, community has affection, network has connecton #lrnchat
9:08:12 pm andrewoshea: So what is the best way to create a community from a group of learners that are in front of you? #lrnchat
9:08:23 pm jsuzcampos: RT @jadekaz:@mpetersell Seen communities form w/out an explicit reason except desire to learn w/others.<reason=thirst for knowledge #lrnchat
9:08:25 pm gminks: I don't see a big diff btwn community & network #lrnchat
9:08:29 pm rmyardley: great!!! RT @littleasklab OH –"the diff between community & network – if someone disappears from a community, its noticed." #lrnchat
9:08:32 pm cammybean: @gwoodill I read your post as "if a hug disappears from a network" — and I thought, oh good, Gary's getting all lovey too! #lrnchat
9:08:37 pm bobbivernon: Q1. Does group size matter? Not too big, not too small – the dynamics for "just right" vary for community vs. team vs. cmte etc. #lrnchat
9:08:40 pm sahana2802: RT @hjarche Diff between groups/markets & networks/communities = Co-operation is not collaboration http://is.gd/5bLe7 #lrnchat
9:09:05 pm gwoodill: Get out of the way RT @andrewoshea: So what is the best way to create a community from group of learners that are in front of you? #lrnchat
9:09:10 pm gminks: or maybe the the network connects/feeds communities #lrnchat
9:09:15 pm roninchef: In my head is C. Shirky's Power Law community member, as well. The uber member that usually is at the core of the community. #lrnchat
9:09:21 pm ajeanne: Q2) One community I belong to is busy with plots & subplots in secret… trying to improve things, actually. #lrnchat
9:09:21 pm sillym0nkey: It sound like people either like teams or like communities. Both can b distruptive. There r good &bad teams/communitiies #lrnchat
9:09:25 pm kellygarber: Q2) communities establish protocol, procedure, …rules of engagement #lrnchat
9:09:27 pm rmyardley: it looks like communities are built on networks. Is it that trust is important here? #lrnchat
9:09:51 pm tgrevatt: Have you guys read Seth Godin's 'Tribes'? Talks about breaking out & starting tribe, then others follow. Someone has to start… #lrnchat
9:09:54 pm sillym0nkey: Not sure if size matters as much as who is in the community #lrnchat
9:09:56 pm nancyrubin: I don't think it is what we call it so much that matters but the attitude of the people in the group, network, community, or team #lrnchat
9:10:00 pm ajeanne: Q2) Another community is busy sharing info, photos, hopes & dreams #lrnchat
9:10:14 pm LearningPutty: @andrewoshea Re: forming a community… I like what was said earlier about no distinct roles #lrnchat
9:10:19 pm gwoodill: @cammybean Need a hug? Sending some out to you…OOOOO #lrnchat
9:10:21 pm insynctraining: RT @ajeanne: Q2) One community I belong to is busy with plots & subplots in secret… trying to improve things, actually. #lrnchat
9:10:21 pm Quinnovator: wrote blog post about nurturing: seed, feed, weed (@Dave_Ferguson added breed, where *is* he?) #lrnchat http://bit.ly/sOJYt
9:10:23 pm olavur: In a couple of (formal and semi-formal) organisations that I am involved in, we have used Skype chat as the community builder #lrnchat
9:10:29 pm chambo_online: Q2)Teams do effective activities i.e. work goals, projects, etc., Communities do affective activities i.e. support, challenge, etc. #lrnchat
9:10:34 pm reward75: @JaneBozarth I'm trying to get my communities to help each other with software problems, connect the experts with the novices #lrnchat
9:10:39 pm ajeanne: @rmyardley Well, there can easily be members of a community that few trust. #lrnchat
9:10:42 pm jadekaz: @bobbivernon I think size matters. (chuckle). Need appropriate tools to keep large community working #lrnchat
9:10:54 pm klowey22: RT @rmyardley: it looks like communities are built on networks. Is it that trust is important here? > yes and authenticity #lrnchat
9:10:55 pm marciamarcia: Place-based when community identity based on a region we live/d in, a website we visit, space w/boundaries. #lrnchat
9:11:00 pm gwoodill: @tgrevatt Are you starting a new tribe? Count me in… #lrnchat
9:11:30 pm MLx: @AndrewOShea give them a common problem to solve #lrnchat
9:11:35 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) A community is like a shark it has to keep moving (forward) or it will die #lrnchat
9:11:36 pm cammybean: @atsc But some communities just form spontaneously, don’t they? Leaders may emerge…#lrnchat
9:11:42 pm ajeanne: @Quinnovator I’m missing Dave Ferguson! Where’s my #lrnchat friend? :) #lrnchat
9:11:44 pm hjarche: for some communities you have no choice in being a member, but networks are usually by choice #lrnchat
9:11:46 pm cognovi: Creating opportunity @andrewoshea best way to create a community from group of learners that are in front of you? #lrnchat
9:12:03 pm bobbivernon: Q2. Communities tend to self-police regardless of their cause. #lrnchat
9:12:17 pm tgrevatt: @gwoodill Awesome! We’re brewing something cool up here :-) #lrnchat
9:12:24 pm olavur: @MLx Give them a common enemy #lrnchat
9:12:25 pm atsc: @Quinnovator I’ll go for your tribe, I like seed, feed, weed and breed! #lrnchat
9:12:36 pm mpetersell: @MLx common problems can help bonding #lrnchat
9:12:41 pm kelly_smith01: RT @bobbivernon: Q2. Communities tend to self-police regardless of their cause. #lrnchat
9:12:43 pm insynctraining: @reward75 Great #lrnchat
9:12:45 pm jadekaz: @marciamarcia I see “place-based” communities all over Twitter. Lots of Lists devoted to people in the same city. #lrnchat
9:12:50 pm Quinnovator: @sillym0nkey reckon it’s more: team different than network different than community. Strength of ties, focus, … ? #lrnchat
9:12:50 pm Abhinava: @Quinnovator seed, feed, weed, breed…!? that sounds like a fun party!! where it eej!? #lrnchat
9:13:05 pm atsc: @cammybean Agreed… #lrnchat
9:13:06 pm cammybean: @JaneBozarth Maybe instead of leaders, what a community needs is a circle of elders (although age doesn’t matter) — that 10%. #lrnchat
9:13:16 pm sahana2802: RT @kelly_smith01 Q2) A community is like a shark it has to keep moving (forward) or it will die #lrnchat Right.
9:13:21 pm dpontefract: Communities start specifically or by osmosis; brought together to share toys, ideas & ambitions whilst playing nice in the sandbox #lrnchat
9:13:21 pm insynctraining: RT @tgrevatt: Read Seth Godin’s ‘Tribes’? Talks about breaking out & starting tribe, then others follow. Someone has to start… #lrnchat
9:13:21 pm gminks: today in our community ppl asked tech questions, and I worked behind the scenes on something I can’t talk about (NDA) :) #lrnchat
9:13:23 pm lrnchat: Q3)Are communities actively supported? If no, why not? If yes, how? #lrnchat
9:13:28 pm gwoodill: @tgrevatt Give me a call and tell me about it! #lrnchat
9:13:36 pm ThomasStone: I’ll note that we talk of one’s “personal network”, but we never talk of one’s “personal community”. (right?) #lrnchat
9:13:36 pm oxala75: RT @olavur @MLx Give them a common enemy #lrnchat
9:13:47 pm minutebio: RT @bobbivernon: Q2. Communities tend to self-police regardless of their cause. Can’t control a soc lrning comm, which is OK w me #lrnchat
9:13:48 pm rmyardley: @ajeanne but can a community build if there is widespread lack of trust? #lrnchat
9:13:54 pm jadekaz: RT @lrnchat: Q3)Are communities actively supported? If no, why not? If yes, how? #lrnchat
9:13:55 pm sahana2802: RT @insynctraining RT @tgrevatt: Read Seth Godin’s ‘Tribes’? Talks about breaking out & starting tribe, then others follow. #lrnchat
9:13:59 pm cammybean: Difference between community and tribe? Discuss. #lrnchat
9:14:01 pm jsuzcampos: RT @Quinnovator: wrote blog post about nurturing: seed, feed, weed <this was a great post! (and where is Dave?) http://bit.ly/sOJYt #lrnchat
9:14:18 pm sillym0nkey: Yes! Communitites and teams are overrated! #lrnchat
9:14:20 pm mpetersell: @cammybean the tribe has spoken – that sort of thing? #lrnchat
9:14:21 pm atsc: @cammybean More like a circle of the wise mentoring the newer and less experienced? #lrnchat
9:14:21 pm busynessgirl: Q3 Communities are actively supported with blood, sweat, tears … and if they are lucky … money. #lrnchat
9:14:37 pm ThomasStone: We've also turned "network" into a verb, but no one says they are "community-ing". #lrnchat
9:14:40 pm mpetersell: RT @lrnchat: Q3)Are communities actively supported? If no, why not? If yes, how? #lrnchat
9:14:48 pm rmyardley: @klowey22 see article on small business building trust to share and collaborate http://tinyurl.com/y9gtj2w #lrnchat
9:14:48 pm sahana2802: RT @cammybean Difference between community and tribe? Discuss. #lrnchat
9:14:49 pm scareytweets: @jadekaz now that twitter is geocoding tweets, that could become even more relevant #lrnchat
9:15:33 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q3)Are communities actively supported? If no, why not? If yes, how? #lrnchat
9:15:34 pm LearningPutty: Q3) communities are supported by those that like their purpose & can be actively destroyed by those that dislike their purpose. #lrnchat
9:15:34 pm BlakeGroup: Q3 The issue of virtual vs face-2-face: as humans, we need f2f, but virtual means fewer limits to size, location, access. #lrnchat
9:15:36 pm cammybean: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) A community is like a shark it has to keep moving (forward) or it will die #lrnchat
9:15:44 pm insynctraining: RT @kelly_smith01: I like any commimity that does not get mad when I take a while to mow the lawn #lrnchat
9:15:47 pm reward75: Will there b a rite of passage also? @atsc @cammybean More like a circle of the wise mentoring the newer and less experienced? #lrnchat
9:15:49 pm mpetersell: q3 – I see my job as to foster development of communities; support them until they get going #lrnchat
9:16:05 pm sillym0nkey: Q3) Are communities actively supported? Yes – community decides to do so. And No when community bands agst #lrnchat
9:16:12 pm jadekaz: Q3 Not always, but hopefully communities are actively supported. Communities get more done/ have more value if they are. #lrnchat
9:16:36 pm gminks: so we support communities with resources, which is very very important #lrnchat
9:16:38 pm cammybean: RT @ajeanne: Q3) My favorite community has some structure. Theres a "List Mom," who rarely interferes. There are leaders that serve #lrnchat
9:16:40 pm RobRobertson: Q3) by supporting communities (even those we are not naturally a part) we help the whole…rising tide sort of thing #lrnchat
9:16:55 pm gwoodill: What a concept! RT @ajeanne: There are leaders that serve. #lrnchat
9:17:00 pm atsc: How would the structure of a community, tribe or team be visually represented? #lrnchat
9:17:07 pm mpetersell: Informal communities form on their own and support themselves; I'm connecting people who need each other but don't know it yet #lrnchat
9:17:09 pm oxala75: Q3) communities are supported from within (homeostasis, evolution), but not necessarily from without. (CoP, anyone?) #lrnchat
9:17:11 pm rmyardley: communities seem to require people who need and people who need to give. #lrnchat
9:17:12 pm cammybean: @reward75 I'll pass the pipe. #lrnchat
9:17:17 pm elatedca: They vary by type of support, beit public/private entities, needs, etc. RT @lrnchat: Q3)Are communities actively..? #lrnchat
9:17:22 pm nancyrubin: Six Conditions that Form Online Communities http://www.nicklewis.org/node/956 – a lot of the same ideas we have identified here #lrnchat
9:17:24 pm Quinnovator: so thrilled everyone is so green ;) #lrnchat
9:17:25 pm ajeanne: @rmyardley Without trust, I think a community is headed for stormy waters–maybe for extinction. #lrnchat
9:17:33 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) Maybe add "is the community acknowledged"? #lrnchat
9:17:35 pm LearningPutty: help 2 establish other's PLN RT @mpetersell: q3 – I see my job as to foster dev of communities; support them until they get going #lrnchat
9:17:44 pm olavur: Q3) Doesn't the community support it self? #lrnchat
9:18:07 pm BlakeGroup: Must cut out early–excellent chat tonight, thanks all (will thank for RTs later)! #lrnchat
9:18:23 pm cammybean: @mpetersell I was thinking Seth Godin's tribes. #lrnchat
9:18:24 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q3)Are communities actively supported? If no, why not? If yes, how? #lrnchat
9:18:26 pm chambo_online: Explain "support" – by the members? by outside entitites? by imposing structures and rules of behavior (i.e. no ALL CAPS)? #lrnchat
9:18:27 pm jadekaz: Q3 Dedication is required support. But it helps a lot to support with money, influence, resources, etc. #lrnchat
9:18:30 pm reward75: Q3 Mine isn't "officially" supported yet, but working on showing the value of it #lrnchat
9:18:32 pm rmyardley: @atsc a mud map #lrnchat
9:18:37 pm ThomasStone: We can also speak meaningfully of a "network of communities" I think, where the nodes aren't people but groups of people #lrnchat
9:18:38 pm atsc: @atsc Helping people visualise less formal structures may help them understand their design, roles and purpose? #lrnchat
9:18:52 pm sillym0nkey: RT@nancyrubin: 6Conditions that Form Online Communities http://www.nicklewis.org/node/956 – same ideas we identified here #lrnchat
9:19:01 pm pedepede2: Q3) communities not actively supported; why not? recognising common focus, time, purpose, value #lrnchat
9:19:09 pm mpetersell: @olavur once established it does; we try to get people started; they need help #lrnchat
9:19:10 pm RobRobertson: @olavur only when it reaches critical mass (contribution) until then it needs deliberate nurturing #lrnchat
9:19:13 pm nancyrubin: Does your org/company portal that is well maintained? Mine did – updated news and featured employee stories for each week – events #lrnchat
9:19:13 pm Abhinava: #lrnchat Do communities need support!? they are driven/sustained by interest and need… you CANT force-form a community
9:19:17 pm pedepede2: RT @mpetersell connecting people who need each other but don't know it yet #lrnchat
9:19:18 pm roninchef: Q3 Communities are actively supported until they aren't. It is so easy to create an ad hoc community today. Nothing is permanent. #lrnchat
9:19:37 pm ajeanne: @chambo_online Norms will develop, such as taking a drink when seeing certain words flash by. :) #lrnchat
9:19:43 pm LearningPutty: @kelly_smith01 don't think you can add "acknowledged" due to some communities' need for "stealth" – doesn't make them less of comm. #lrnchat
9:19:44 pm atsc: @rmyardley Good… I like it, a mud map for communities… #lrnchat
9:19:45 pm gwoodill: RT@nancyrubin: 6 Conditions that Form Online Communities http://www.nicklewis.org/node/956 #lrnchat
9:19:57 pm ThomasStone: My point is just that networks is a fairly "thin" concept — implies relations between nodes of some kind. Communities are richer. #lrnchat
9:20:03 pm jadekaz: Q3 Communities often self-support and ppl give what they have. Also "fundraise" whether that's money, knowledge, space, etc. #lrnchat
9:20:03 pm Abhinava: #lrnchat in the context of things… support is immaterial methinks… it is but a booster not a sustainer… cannot be
9:20:13 pm sillym0nkey: @atsc Helping people visualise less formal structures may help them understand their design, roles and purpose? #lrnchat
9:20:18 pm JaneBozarth: @roninchef Well but that may be the point — to everything there is a season, and all that. Temporary structures. #lrnchat
9:20:21 pm Quinnovator: Q3: communities need to be supported, can be internal/informally, but if org wants to develop, needs to be formally, no? #lrnchat
9:20:22 pm scareytweets: RT @gwoodill: RT@nancyrubin: 6 Conditions that Form Online Communities http://www.nicklewis.org/node/956 #lrnchat
9:20:24 pm sillym0nkey: I love mud map! #lrnchat
9:20:27 pm ajeanne: Q3 I guess it's important to remember that it's not about the community for its own sake: we don't form them just to HAVE them #lrnchat
9:20:28 pm cammybean: Q3: We support communities with our time, our energy, our intellect, our passion. And our love :) #lrnchat
9:20:29 pm littleasklab: See similar roles in healthy communities – power center, listener, administrator – can rotate, be self-selected #lrnchat
9:20:54 pm reward75: @cammybean I like this better than the drinking game! :-) #lrnchat
9:20:54 pm gminks: there is value in capturing the informal communities, and nurturing (fostering?) it into something formal #lrnchat
9:21:00 pm olavur: RT chambo_online Explain "support" – by the members? by outside entitites? by imposing structures and rules of behavior? #lrnchat
9:21:08 pm gwoodill: @ThomasStone You mean networks are all bones, but communities have meat? #lrnchat
9:21:10 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) Not sure if I would always want my community supported. If supported you may have to play by the "rules." #lrnchat
9:21:13 pm JaneBozarth: RT @Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q3)Are communities actively supported? If no, why not? If yes, how? #lrnchat
9:21:13 pm atsc: @atsc Visualisation would also help in showing networks and relationships and even resources… #lrnchat
9:21:20 pm nancyrubin: Ning and drupal make it easy to form communities – it is sustaining them that is difficult (LT) – lots of ST activity on a topic #lrnchat
9:21:36 pm marciamarcia: We support communities with our time, our energy, our intellect, our passion. And our love RT @cammybean #lrnchat
9:21:38 pm Quinnovator: @insynctraining you just did, of course. Drink! #lrnchat
9:21:44 pm LearningPutty: Agreed RT @ThomasStone: "Networks" is a fairly "thin" concept as only implies relations btwn nodes of some kind. Comm.s are richer. #lrnchat
9:21:44 pm rmyardley: @Quinnovator if formal support structure will that break the sense of community… #lrnchat
9:21:50 pm mpetersell: @gminks careful not to kill them in the conversion #lrnchat
9:21:51 pm jadekaz: Most definitely RT @gminks: value in capturing the informal communities, and nurturing (fostering?) it into something formal #lrnchat
9:21:55 pm atsc: @reward75 Ugh don't remind me… #lrnchat
9:22:01 pm busynessgirl: Now I'm sitting here and thinking about communities that I've tried to "create" that have failed, and what elements were missing. #lrnchat
9:22:05 pm roninchef: Q3 Keeping with that thought. Do we need old world broad spectrum community now? The niche community certainly seems to be winning. #lrnchat
9:22:05 pm nancyrubin: @gminks I think wikis can be used for a lot of that – especially in academia – do you? #lrnchat
9:22:10 pm scareytweets: @nancyrubin I love drupal #lrnchat
9:22:11 pm gminks: @kelly_smith01 but in a corporate environment, everything is regulated, isnt it? #lrnchat
9:22:11 pm dpontefract: Communities are supported if they have to be … or if they want to be (push vs. pull or real vs. forced) #lrnchat
9:22:16 pm ThomasStone: Awww! RT @cammybean: Q3: We support communities with our time, our energy, our intellect, our passion. And our love :) #lrnchat
9:22:19 pm cammybean: @roninchef Yes! Temporary communities form in response to an event, a crisis. And when it's over, the community may fade away. #lrnchat
9:22:19 pm Quinnovator: @kelly_smith01 that's not the *only* definition of 'supported' #lrnchat
9:22:21 pm ajeanne: Oh and hey… at least we're not typing "e-communities" (channeling @dave_ferguson). #lrnchat
9:22:33 pm lrnchat: Q4)What evidence that communities they impact learning? What evidence could there be? #lrnchat
9:22:50 pm roninchef: @JaneBozarth I was just filling out that idea. Dern fool 140 characters:) #lrnchat
9:22:53 pm busynessgirl: I think communities definitely require someone to continually input energy to keep them going. #lrnchat
9:23:01 pm jsuzcampos: RT @gminks: @kelly_smith01 but in a corporate environment, everything is regulated, isnt it? < I have had both #lrnchat
9:26:27 pm bobbivernon: Q4. The evidence is in trending topics! How information spreads like wildfire. Knowledge instantly attained. #lrnchat
9:26:34 pm kelly_smith01: RT @rmyardley: most communities have both explicit and implicit “rules” #lrnchat
9:26:36 pm Quinnovator: RT @marciamarcia: If no one has said so already, community comes from 2 Latin words that mean “with gifts.” #lrnchat
9:26:47 pm nancyrubin: Q4 – watch this video to see how a community can have an impact – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEdVfyt-mLw #lrnchat
9:26:51 pm ThomasStone: I’m pleased that this tweetchat has, until now, not used the phrases “communities of practice” or “it takes a village” #lrnchat
9:26:56 pm sahana2802: RT @JaneBozarth Curious: How many find that their best communities exist outside of the org? #lrnchat
9:27:02 pm ajeanne: Q4) My fave community is full of people who are more knowledgeable about our favorite passion than folks out there acting alone. #lrnchat
9:27:08 pm atsc: @mpetersell I like it. Innovation would be a good indicator. So would devpt of resources or guidelines that live on for others… #lrnchat
9:27:09 pm busynessgirl: Web 2.0 communities thrive off the infusion of energy. When the energy source goes, the blog, tweetstream, or wiki goes too. #lrnchat
9:27:15 pm dpontefract: @marciamarcia also, biologically speaking, community is ‘a group of interacting organisms sharing an environment’ #lrnchat
9:27:16 pm gwoodill: Q4: So far no one has suggested that evidence = measurement. Good thing, too. #lrnchat
9:27:18 pm rmyardley: I’ve seen investors teach entrepreneurs in their communities :-) #lrnchat
9:27:18 pm sillym0nkey: Best communities mostly outside of the org #lrnchat
9:27:25 pm RobRobertson: @JaneBozarth: How many find that their best communities exist outside of the org?-> Certainly true for me but I hope to help that #lrnchat
9:27:40 pm kelly_smith01: @sillym0nkey I have had good and bad experiences with communities outside the org. #lrnchat
9:27:49 pm cammybean: @ThomasStone You had to be the one, didn’t cha? #lrnchat
9:27:51 pm ajeanne: Q4) So, you’d have to test those folks & a control group… or we could just take my word for it. :) )) #lrnchat
9:27:54 pm chambo_online: Real proof though? Community effects on learning…do scores go up with it? Do scores go down w/o it? Specifics vs. anecdotal. #lrnchat
9:27:55 pm jadekaz: Q4 It takes a community to raise a child. I.e., involvement will shape the participant, so measurements should be available #lrnchat
9:27:56 pm pedepede2: @busynessgirl failed community ideas: too many other options, no nurturer, unclear purpose, too few members, no critical mass #lrnchat
9:28:00 pm Quinnovator: @espnguyen yes, but that’s because of a lot of work *building* the community (lots of work behind scenes) #lrnchat
9:28:04 pm atsc: @Quinnovator If there are gifts for others then that shows a communities worth… #lrnchat
9:28:06 pm busynessgirl: I propose that “it takes a village” get added to the #lrnchat drinking game. #lrnchat
9:28:17 pm minutebio: RT @bobbivernon: evidnce in trending topics Hw info spreads like wldfire. Knwldge instntly attained If U can show it is applied too #lrnchat
9:28:19 pm jsuzcampos: RT @ThomasStone: Im pleased that until now, no one said the phrases “communities of practice” or “it takes a village”<Roger that. #lrnchat
9:28:19 pm cammybean: Lone practitioners may be forced to seek community outside of the org. #lrnchat
9:28:23 pm reward75: good and bad info RT @bobbivernon: evidence is trending topics! information spreads like wildfire. Knowledge instantly attained. #lrnchat
9:28:33 pm sillym0nkey: RT nancyrubin: Q4 – watch this video 2 see how a community can have an impact – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEdVfyt-mLw #lrnchat
9:28:37 pm olavur: #lrnchat seems to be a good example of a community supported "from within" – difficult to imagine effective external support…
9:28:37 pm Quinnovator: RT @sahana2802: Q4: #lrnchat is a community that I have personally learned from and keep learning each time. That for me is evidence.
9:28:41 pm marciamarcia: Biologically speaking, community is 'a group of interacting organisms sharing an environment' RT @dpontefract #lrnchat
9:28:46 pm rhysatwork: got pulled away from twitter and now no time to catch up on #lrnchat
9:28:52 pm mpetersell: @gwoodill what would we measure? #lrnchat
9:29:00 pm sillym0nkey: We can learn alot from failed communities #lrnchat
9:29:02 pm ajeanne: Want to kill a community? Give them stupid tools for communicating. #lrnchat
9:29:03 pm JaneBozarth: RT @gwoodill: Q4: So far no one has suggested that evidence = measurement. Good thing, too. #lrnchat
9:29:17 pm atsc: @sillym0nkey Seriously? Perhaps wider and bigger communities are outside the org, but better for the org??? #lrnchat
9:29:23 pm reward75: That's me! RT @cammybean: Lone practitioners may be forced to seek community outside of the org. #lrnchat
9:29:33 pm olavur: Q4) if the community behaves like a shark (i.e. moves forward) #lrnchat
9:29:36 pm gminks: Q4 http://bit.ly/5pSoJO and http://bit.ly/4SnWxP look like learning to me #lrnchat
9:29:38 pm kelly_smith01: @busynessgirl Just don't say "It takes an LMS." #lrnchat
9:29:40 pm Quinnovator: @busynessgirl A secret. As far as I know, *anyone* can add to the drinking game. So, now it's not a secret. Have at it. #lrnchat
9:29:41 pm cammybean: There is a difference between community and a mob. #lrnchat
9:29:41 pm roninchef: @JaneBozarth Mine are. I love my org and my group, but I am still a dev team of one. Outside I'm a part of something bigger. #lrnchat
9:29:41 pm andrewoshea: Thanks all that responded to my Qs. Being in Oz I need to get back to work. To those in other parts, sleep well! #lrnchat
9:29:43 pm bobbivernon: Good catch. Why is that? RT @gwoodill: Q4: So far no one has suggested that evidence = measurement. Good thing, too. #lrnchat
9:29:52 pm littleasklab: @Quinnovator if formal support structure will break … Help them get going & trust members to break structures when needed #lrnchat
9:29:59 pm atsc: @Quinnovator But how is your learning demonstrated? #lrnchat
9:30:18 pm sillym0nkey: RT @cammybean: There is a difference between community and a mob. #lrnchat
9:30:18 pm ajeanne: Q4) There are many kinds of evidence. Cosmic question is: what form of evidence will you accept that something's true? #lrnchat
9:30:29 pm gminks: RT @cammybean: There is a difference between community and a mob. #lrnchat
9:30:39 pm jadekaz: Oh crap. #lrnchat
9:30:52 pm atsc: @kelly_smith01 It takes an LMS for our student courses… ;-) We even have facilitators to lead the students in a merry dance… #lrnchat
9:30:58 pm gminks: evidence of learning is not seen in community but the impact on something else #lrnchat
9:30:58 pm dpontefract: I find communities in any shape or form are a necessary non-formal/unexpected piece to the learning puzzle. Imagine life without? #lrnchat
9:31:07 pm Quinnovator: sponsorship? ;) RT @olavur: #lrnchat seems good example of community supported “from within” – difficult to imagine external support…
9:31:15 pm kelly_smith01: RT @cammybean: Lone practitioners may be forced to seek community outside of the org. –> yesss thats what lrnchat is for me. #lrnchat
9:31:21 pm chambo_online: Measurement is what speaks to researchers. Got asked the other day, “Where’s the research proving community improves learning?” #lrnchat
9:31:33 pm busynessgirl: Off topic: Totally forgot to share the Tweetborg with you all! http://bit.ly/qDAho Thanks to @ohmgee #lrnchat
9:31:35 pm gwoodill: Maybe there aren’t any measurement fetishists on lrnchat. RT @bobbivernon: Good catch. Why is that? #lrnchat
9:31:36 pm espnguyen: @quinnovator And we’re all thankful for the work that has been done to build this community. Demo’d by the passion we see here in #lrnchat
9:31:40 pm roninchef: @gminks That would be which side of the pitchforks and torches you are on. #lrnchat
9:31:43 pm sillym0nkey: RT @ajeanne: Q4) There r many kinds of evidence. Cosmic ? is: what form of evidence will uaccept that something’s true? :) #lrnchat
9:31:48 pm JoanVinallCox: Joining late – Joan Vinall-Cox – a prof with all her marking done! #lrnchat
9:31:55 pm olavur: @atsc @Quinnovator isn’t learning demonstrated by behaviour? #lrnchat
9:32:05 pm abigrace: Ditto RT @jsuzcampos In my exp, communities form arnd common intrst (social, functn, exprtse) or simply to overthrow bad management #lrnchat
9:32:14 pm rmyardley: Outcomes from learning communities need to be observed, shared and valued. Outcomes I think will be different for different people #lrnchat
9:32:15 pm Quinnovator: RT @littleasklab: if formal support structure will break … Help them get going & trust members to break structures when needed #lrnchat
9:32:30 pm littleasklab: RT @gminks: evidence of learning is not seen in community but the impact on something else #lrnchat
9:32:36 pm LearningPutty: Q4) In terms of measurement for a community – I think you can get Kirkpatrick level one and two. :) #lrnchat
9:32:40 pm gminks: measurement is what speaks to stakeholders. Why should they support/fund a community if you can’t measure what it does #lrnchat
9:32:42 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @olavur: @atsc @Quinnovator isnt learning demonstrated by behaviour? #lrnchat
9:32:48 pm elatedca: Q4) nearly impossible to measure for some learning modalities; sometimes a subjective, smile-sheet like evaluate #lrnchat
9:32:48 pm busynessgirl: Should we “measure” communities in English or Metric? #lrnchat
9:33:02 pm Abhinava: @Quinnovator Are you sponsoring the ale…? ;) that would really ’support’ #lrnchat :D
9:33:11 pm rmyardley: @olavur isn’t it what the behaviour produces that needs to be measured? #lrnchat
9:33:11 pm olavur: @Quinnovator sponsorship without engagement is pretty tame #lrnchat
9:33:15 pm Quinnovator: problems solved, performance improvement… RT @gminks: evidence of learning is not seen in community but impact on something else #lrnchat
9:33:27 pm atsc: @olavur Yes so change in behaviour is the evidence… #lrnchat
9:33:31 pm nancyrubin: Q4 – Just did process mgmt training – you can measure effectiveness of processes through satisfaction measures and quality measures #lrnchat
9:33:34 pm kelly_smith01: RT @LearningPutty: Q4) In terms of measurement for a community – I think you can get Kirkpatrick level one and two. :) #lrnchat
9:33:36 pm ajeanne: Hey, if there are no goals, then there’s nothing to measure. #lrnchat
9:33:38 pm minutebio: RT @olavur: @atsc @Quinnovator isnt learning demonstrated by behaviour? AND RESULTS #lrnchat
9:33:46 pm chambo_online: RT @gminks: measurement is what speaks to stakeholders. Why should they support/fund a community if you cant measure what it does #lrnchat
9:34:01 pm gminks: @Quinnovator exactly #lrnchat
9:34:06 pm busynessgirl: @Quinnovator As a matter of fact, evidence of success might be the breakup of the community. #lrnchat
9:34:11 pm espnguyen: Q4) What does it mean if you feel more valued in a community outside org vs inside? Is that normal? #lrnchat
9:34:14 pm kasey428: Very late, Kay Wood, DC area. #lrnchat
9:34:17 pm Quinnovator: @Abhinava communities happen with scaffolding, whether informal/leader or formal is all #lrnchat
9:34:28 pm reward75: LOL! RT @busynessgirl: Should we “measure” communities in English or Metric? #lrnchat
9:34:30 pm Quinnovator: ideally, by meaningful outcomes RT @olavur: @atsc @Quinnovator isn’t learning demonstrated by behaviour? #lrnchat
9:34:37 pm atsc: @Quinnovator impact on people? On outcome? #lrnchat
9:34:38 pm rmyardley: @nancyrubin surely it is the measurement of the desired outcome… #lrnchat
9:34:39 pm sillym0nkey: ajeanne: Hey, if there are no goals, then there’s nothing to measure. Unless Learning Happened! #lrnchat
9:34:41 pm gminks: @elatedca but you can measure problems the training solves #lrnchat
9:34:54 pm Abhinava: Common sense here? RT @gwoodill: Maybe there aren’t any measurement fetishists on lrnchat RT @bobbivernon: Good catch Why is that? #lrnchat
9:34:57 pm Mary_a_Myers: i am very sad…am sitting in a train station and have missed most of #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:35:11 pm atsc: @minutebio Agreed, behaviour and results… But the two can be inextricably linked… #lrnchat
9:35:19 pm Quinnovator: @olavur we’ve got engagement, we just want cash ;) #lrnchat
9:35:22 pm tonnet: @doctorjeff #edchat, #lrnchat, #edtechtalk or any other. Still, p2p should it be best rewarded. I try to connect w/ real ppl any time I can
9:35:26 pm sahana2802: RT @Quinnovator problems solved, performance improvement. RT @gminks: evidence of lrng is not seen in comm but impact on smthg else #lrnchat
9:35:31 pm JoanVinallCox: Scientific American Mind – learning seen in brain scans – http://www.scientificamerican.com/sciammind/ #lrnchat
9:35:31 pm gminks: @roninchef aw come on now…. #lrnchat
9:35:36 pm mpetersell: @chambo_online because it might produce something terrific. #lrnchat
9:35:36 pm bobbivernon: @sillym0nkey Do communities fail? If they’re fluid & informal, what determines success and failure? Can they naturally fizzle out? #lrnchat
9:35:39 pm ajeanne: @sillym0nkey You’re right! We can measure “what happened” even if we didn’t have any goals. #lrnchat
9:35:46 pm Mary_a_Myers: i’ll now just read and try to catch the drift #lrnchat
9:35:53 pm LearningPutty: Q4) simple to measure reaction – but key is a clear definition of “community” 2 ensure you are evaluating the right group #lrnchat
9:35:54 pm atsc: @Abhinava No they are starting to come out of the woodwork now… #lrnchat
9:35:58 pm MarWarrender: RT @tgrevatt: Q1) City-wide here in Ottawa, twttr is energising existing & new communities, fascinating to see & be a part of. #lrnchat
9:36:04 pm chambo_online: @Quinnovator Social presence is impacted by Teacher presence = your scaffolding. #lrnchat
9:36:12 pm scareytweets: RT @JoanVinallCox: Scientific American Mind – learning seen in brain scans – http://www.scientificamerican.com/sciammind/ #lrnchat
9:36:24 pm Quinnovator: of teams, but community? RT @busynessgirl: @Quinnovator evidence of success might be the breakup of the community. #lrnchat
9:36:38 pm allonsdanser: I think I already belong to my tribe at work, but I’m working to establish a community of learners. #lrnchat
9:36:43 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @chambo_online: @Quinnovator Social presence is impacted by Teacher presence = your scaffolding. #lrnchat
9:36:46 pm kelly_smith01: @Mary_a_Myers Mmmmm sitting in train station – sad – misssed much of lrnchat — sounds like a song #lrnchat
9:36:48 pm rmyardley: @atsc if the link is not understood then the measures could be abused?? #lrnchat
9:36:48 pm kasey428: RT @Mary_a_Myers: ill now just read and try to catch the drift #lrnchat
9:36:49 pm atsc: @ajeanne But without goals one has no direction, no focus and surely a poorer outcome? I guess this relates to team vs community… #lrnchat
9:36:51 pm cammybean: @unorder We’re essentially talking about COPs on #lrnchat tonight.
9:36:53 pm sillym0nkey: Communities can fail when all the systems fail – Katrina #lrnchat
9:36:55 pm gminks: @Mary_a_Myers don’t be sad, jump in!! #lrnchat
9:37:08 pm Quinnovator: say more? RT @chambo_online: @Quinnovator Social presence is impacted by Teacher presence = your scaffolding. #lrnchat
9:37:08 pm minutebio: RT @atsc: @minutebio Agreed, behaviour and results. But the 2 can be inextricably linked…Yes, but specifically positive results #lrnchat
9:37:10 pm olavur: Exactly! @Quinnovator @olavur we’ve got engagement, we just want cash ;) #lrnchat
9:37:15 pm kasey428: RT @allonsdanser: I think I already belong to my tribe at work, but Im working to establish a community of learners. #lrnchat
9:37:24 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @cammybean: @unorder Were essentially talking about COPs on #lrnchat tonight. #lrnchat
9:37:28 pm roninchef: @gminks With great power… something, something, right? #lrnchat
9:38:02 pm ajeanne: @atsc I guess if you aren’t trying to get anywhere, then anyplace you end up is fine (with apologies to the Cheshire Cat). #lrnchat
9:38:07 pm bobbivernon: @reward75 True. Like @minutebio mentions, it all depends on how that knowledge is applied. Cmnty can be a bad thing w/bad info. #lrnchat
9:38:14 pm kasey428: RT @sillym0nkey: Communities can fail when all the systems fail – Katrina #lrnchat
9:38:22 pm gminks: @roninchef yes uncle ben #lrnchat
9:38:27 pm Quinnovator: Homeward Bound RT @kelly_smith01: @Mary_a_Myers Mmmmm sitting in train station – sad – misssed much of lrnchat — sounds like song #lrnchat
9:38:36 pm Mary_a_Myers: @kelly_smith01 hehehe…i could continue…hunched over my laptop waiting for the train police to cut off my wifi… #lrnchat
9:38:57 pm elatedca: SocMed version of Pygmalion Effect? RT @chambo_online: @Quinnovator Social presence impacted by Teacher presence..your scaffolding. #lrnchat
9:39:18 pm atsc: @kasey428 I wish nI could get “my” academics to be an open community of learners! #lrnchat
9:39:20 pm Abhinava: Question: How do you guys define a Tribe…? the way I see it a tribe has more than one common interest/direction #lrnchat
9:39:28 pm chambo_online: @Quinnovator Social, Teacher, and cognitive presence all linked, but research (Garrison, I think) says social improves w/teach pres #lrnchat
9:39:28 pm busynessgirl: @sillym0nkey And communities can flourish when all the systems fail, as this gives them a common purpose (bringing the system back) #lrnchat
9:39:28 pm Quinnovator: where’s @JaneBozarth? Must’ve been the drinking game! #lrnchat
9:39:52 pm gminks: @roninchef but really, who should be trying to influence this behind the firewall? You can’t change things w/o being in the game #lrnchat
9:39:57 pm Quinnovator: @gwoodill “Kirkpatrick”. Drink! #lrnchat
9:40:03 pm busynessgirl: Country-western song … my dog died, my wife left me, and … the worst of all? I missed #lrnchat
9:40:05 pm gwoodill: Learning = Brain change? Or more? RT @JoanVinallCox: Scientific American Mind – learning seen in brain scans. #lrnchat
9:40:23 pm LearningPutty: Question: How do you measure informal “community” based learning against expected outcomes when u aren’t planning ahead of time? #lrnchat
9:40:28 pm Abhinava: #lrnchat but with the above definition, do tribes really exist in our corporate/work structures? our abilities to multi-task in groups is :(
9:40:37 pm gminks: yoo hoo Jane!! RT @Quinnovator: wheres @JaneBozarth? Mustve been the drinking game! #lrnchat
9:40:45 pm JoanVinallCox: I can scaffold a CoP but, like horses, students have to choose to drink – or rather becaome a community #lrnchat
9:40:48 pm Mary_a_Myers: @busynessgirl that is truly beautiful. #lrnchat
9:41:00 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @busynessgirl: Country-western song … my dog died, my wife left me, and … the worst of all? I missed #lrnchat
9:41:13 pm Quinnovator: LOL RT @busynessgirl: Country-western song … my dog died, my wife left me, and … the worst of all? I missed #lrnchat
9:41:20 pm ajeanne: RT @busynessgirl: Country-western song … my dog died, my wife left me, and … the worst of all? I missed #lrnchat
9:41:21 pm bobbivernon: @sillym0nkey Are people considered part of the system? Wondering if community is defined by WHO + WHAT + HOW. #lrnchat
9:41:22 pm chambo_online: Social, Teacher, and Cognitive presence http://www.ucalgary.ca/~nvaughan/coiissues.pdf #lrnchat
9:41:27 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: @gwoodill Right. Kirkpatrick just a taxonomy anyway. Not a model or theory. #lrnchat
9:41:28 pm gwoodill: Definitely not measurement. RT @JaneBozarth: @gwoodill Right. Kirkpatrick just a taxonomy anyway. Not a model or theory. #lrnchat
9:41:34 pm chambo_online: RT @JoanVinallCox: I can scaffold a CoP but, like horses, students have to choose to drink – or rather becaome a community #lrnchat
9:41:43 pm hjarche: @busynessgirl that’s a real hurtin’ song! #lrnchat
9:41:46 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator @gminks I’m here! I said ‘taxonomy’! #lrnchat
9:42:08 pm Quinnovator: RT @chambo_online: @Quinnovator Social, Teacher, & cognitive presence all linked, but research says social improves w/teach pres #lrnchat
9:42:08 pm atsc: @JoanVinallCox Facilitation helps community building process especially for learning students… And who better to lead – a teacher #lrnchat
9:42:14 pm Abhinava: @gwoodill You gave the first drink term! drinka drinka drinka lily the pinka pinka pinka… #lrnchat
9:42:27 pm Mary_a_Myers: could/is sustainment and evolution evidence of success? (did i already post this thought) #lrnchat
9:43:23 pm kelly_smith01: Homer Simpson: Mmmmmmmmmmm taxonomyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy #lrnchat
9:43:24 pm ajeanne: Q4) You could measure longevity. If anybody cares about that. #lrnchat
9:43:25 pm pedepede2: Tribes, peers, identity, community, presence. Who you are by who you hang out with; trust and social capital; multi-idents #lrnchat
9:43:35 pm busynessgirl: My legs are getting tired … have done three tweetchat nights in a row on the exercise bike. Can I last 15 min more? #lrnchat
9:43:47 pm sahana2802: Have to go…sorry to leave #lrnchat but office beckons. See you online…
9:43:49 pm Quinnovator: Our abilities to multi-task is :( , Period. RT @Abhinava: #lrnchat our abilities to multi-task in groups is :(
9:44:03 pm atsc: @Abhinava I need some medicinal compound… Bless you Lydia Pinkham… #lrnchat
9:44:06 pm kasey428: RT @JoanVinallCox: I can scaffold a CoP but, like horses, students have to choose to drink – or rather becaome a community #lrnchat
9:44:19 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @Mary_a_Myers: could/is sustainment and evolution evidence of success? |yes| (did i already post this thought) | & no.| #lrnchat
9:44:24 pm Mary_a_Myers: @busynessgirl you are truly inspiring for the bike and the song. #lrnchat
9:44:33 pm ajeanne: @busynessgirl Way to multi-task! #lrnchat
9:44:35 pm busynessgirl: Longevity could also be stagnation. Have seen this in many professional organizations. @ajeanne #lrnchat
9:44:37 pm sillym0nkey: there have been lots of drink terms. kirkpatrick, taxonomy, I have been trying to do my assigned drinking #lrnchat
9:44:42 pm JaneBozarth: RT @kelly_smith01: Homer Simpson: Mmmmmmmmmmm taxonomyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy #lrnchat
9:44:44 pm gminks: @sahana2802 bye good to see you!! #lrnchat
9:45:14 pm kelly_smith01: @busynessgirl Think, Lance , Lance #lrnchat
9:45:15 pm tgrevatt: @busynessgirl Awesome, pick up the tempo for the final push! Smart multitasking, need pic of your bike/pc setup, lol #lrnchat
9:45:19 pm atsc: Thank god it is Friday… #lrnchat
9:45:22 pm JaneBozarth: PS See Jane not use the retweet button. #lrnchat
9:45:28 pm olavur: Time to sleep – thanks for the wise words tonight #lrnchat
9:45:29 pm roninchef: @gminks Let it happen organically, then pave the cow path. If there is a need a community will arise, #lrnchat
9:45:31 pm busynessgirl: We’re drinking water, right? #lrnchat
9:45:35 pm ajeanne: Taxonomies rock, but poor Homer, he wouldn’t get that. #lrnchat
9:45:41 pm Abhinava: Actually.. :| RT @Quinnovator: Our abilities to multi-task is :( , Period. RT @Abhinava: #lrnchat our abilities to multi-task in groups is :(
9:45:42 pm JaneBozarth: @sahana2802 Bye! USA misses you! #lrnchat
9:45:42 pm nancyrubin: Another good post – http://elearningtech.blogspot.com/2009/11/selling-learning-communities-not.html #lrnchat
9:45:48 pm Quinnovator: Wait, isn’t Kirkpatrick, like, a god? *drink* RT @JaneBozarth: @gwoodill Right. Kirkpatrick just taxonomy. Not a model or theory. #lrnchat
9:45:57 pm pedepede2: Or measure longevity w/ less active moderation, ie does it sustain itself? RT @ajeanne: Q4) You could measure longevity. #lrnchat
9:45:58 pm kellygarber: RT @busynessgirl: Longevity could also be stagnation. Have seen this in many professional organizations. @ajeanne #lrnchat
9:46:03 pm Mary_a_Myers: so what about the communities you choose and the ones you “live in”… #lrnchat
9:46:09 pm Quinnovator: *hic* RT @sillym0nkey: there have been lots of drink terms. kirkpatrick, taxonomy, I have been trying to do my assigned drinking #lrnchat
9:46:12 pm kasey428: I suspect there are more failures of CoPs than there are successes to date. Too many places CoPs are created top down w/o buy-in. #lrnchat
9:46:20 pm sillym0nkey: RT @busynessgirl: We’re drinking water, right? Yes WE are #lrnchat
9:46:57 pm Abhinava: @sahana2802 Bye..! :) have a great day…! pummel them! #lrnchat
9:47:06 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @Mary_a_Myers: so what about the communities you choose and the ones you “live in”… #lrnchat
9:47:18 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator Yes, a god without a theory. #lrnchat
9:47:27 pm roninchef: ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE. #lrnchat
9:47:28 pm cammybean: The community is wilting… #lrnchat
9:47:32 pm ajeanne: Hey, I’m mostly kidding about the longevity measure… Unless we’re having a community just to have it, who cares about that? #lrnchat
9:47:40 pm reward75: @Quinnovator http://www.thepeasegroup.com/_blog/Articles/post/The_Brain_Can_NOT_Multi-task #lrnchat
9:47:44 pm kasey428: Bourbon, double, one cube of ice and shaking my head over Kirkpatrick… #lrnchat
9:47:48 pm JaneBozarth: Not convinced you can create a community and make people participate in it.. #lrnchat
9:47:59 pm gminks: @roninchef but communities do already exist, getting them to port to diff technology is all we’re doing so more ppl can benefit #lrnchat
9:48:03 pm bobbivernon: @Abhinava @gwoodill Some forms of measurement are starting to pop up in the chat… #lrnchat
9:48:10 pm atsc: @roninchef Your scaring me… #lrnchat
9:48:17 pm chambo_online: @roninchef drink drank drunk on that one. #lrnchat
9:48:19 pm kelly_smith01: My personal community has LOL much tonight #lrnchat
9:48:22 pm Mary_a_Myers: or it has had too much to drink RT @cammybean: The community is wilting… #lrnchat
9:48:31 pm Quinnovator: I’d rather measure outcomes: new ideas, more practitioners or experts, … RT @ajeanne: Q4) You could measure longevity. #lrnchat
9:48:37 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: Not convinced you can create a community and make people participate in it.. #lrnchat
9:48:41 pm gminks: @roninchef you know you can just take a drink if you are that thirsty #lrnchat
9:48:50 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @gminks: @roninchef communities do already exist, getting them to port to diff tech is all were doing so more ppl can benefit #lrnchat
9:48:54 pm gwoodill: Baby boomers care about longevity…RT @ajeanne: Hey, I’m mostly kidding… who cares about that? #lrnchat
9:48:56 pm minutebio: RT @JaneBozarth: Not convinced you can create a community and make people participate in it.. Does it Have to evolve? #lrnchat
9:48:56 pm atsc: @kasey428 Bourbon and L&P but you’ll have to go to New Zealand to try it… #lrnchat
9:49:02 pm Mary_a_Myers: @JaneBozarth what about neighbourhoods? you can’t choose your neighbours but you need to deal/work/talk/avoid them. #lrnchat
9:49:16 pm Quinnovator: *get* them to participate! RT @JaneBozarth: Not convinced you can create a community and make people participate in it.. #lrnchat
9:49:17 pm kasey428: DC Tweetup for Lrn-Chat folks, Fado’s, Chinatown, 6:30 PM Tues. 12/8 #lrnchat
9:49:29 pm gminks: wait – I could have actually drank tonight! shoot! #lrnchat
9:49:46 pm busynessgirl: @JaneBozarth How about the Obama campaign community? Carefully crafted and highly successful. #lrnchat
9:49:50 pm kelly_smith01: I like when my community is a bit stealth. We don’t need any stinking badges. #lrnchat
9:50:08 pm sillym0nkey: Like someone said earlier – community is a lot like family – you can choose some members of your communitiy but not all #lrnchat
9:50:12 pm JoanVinallCox: What about measuring vibrancy and period it lasts – Possible? Like lrnchat #lrnchat
9:50:13 pm rmyardley: perhaps we can know we have a great community but always too late. The great community emerges but can’t be always anticipated #lrnchat
9:50:18 pm nancyrubin: When starting a community – a few natl leaders will emerge who need to mentor others who are interested but need help and on and on #lrnchat
9:50:19 pm bobbivernon: Agreed. RT @JaneBozarth: Not convinced you can create a community and make people participate in it.. #lrnchat
9:50:28 pm kelly_smith01: RT @busynessgirl: @JaneBozarth How about the Obama campaign community? Carefully crafted and highly successful. #lrnchat
9:50:30 pm kasey428: RT @kelly_smith01: I like when my community is a bit stealth. We dont need any stinking badges. #lrnchat
9:50:36 pm chambo_online: @Mary_a_Myers neighborhoods are not community unless ppl in them choose to associate. Otherwise, just ppl who share space #lrnchat
9:50:46 pm ThomasStone: @Mary_a_Myers In an important sense, every community I belong to is chosen by me — except family. #lrnchat
9:50:54 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links welcome. What can we help you with? #lrnchat
9:50:55 pm JaneBozarth: @Mary_a_Myers I wouldn’t call that a ‘community’ as we’re discussing here #lrnchat
9:51:03 pm Abhinava: #lrnchat Just to help things along: Dialoguing, Thiagi, Mager, MBTI, Multiple Intelligences, rapid, Csikszentmihalyi Talk about support!
9:51:09 pm Quinnovator: exactly! RT @reward75: @Quinnovator http://bit.ly/4ABC2p #lrnchat
9:51:16 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @rmyardley: we can know we have great community but always too late. The great community emerges but cant be always anticipated #lrnchat
9:51:30 pm sillym0nkey: If you can’t get the community to participate then some one is probably trying to lead aone man parade #lrnchat
9:51:36 pm cammybean: There are intentional communities and then there are your neighbors. #lrnchat
9:51:39 pm roninchef: @gminks I know and I’m with you. But like what @JaneBozarth is getting at, can you make them do it, use it? You need the Power Law! #lrnchat
9:51:41 pm Mary_a_Myers: @chambo_online although i’d argue that there is an element of sharing space that allows for community. #lrnchat
9:52:08 pm chambo_online: RT @cammybean: There are intentional communities and then there are your neighbors. #lrnchat
9:52:10 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @Abhinava: #lrnchathelp things along: Dialoguing, Thiagi, Mager, MBTI, Multiple Intelligences, rapid, Csikszentmihalyi #lrnchat
9:52:20 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links welcome. What can we help you with? #lrnchat
9:52:28 pm gminks: you have to make community relevant so ppl will want to connect (& stay connected) #lrnchat
9:52:29 pm Mary_a_Myers: @JaneBozarth i like to equate the idea of community to the larger world … find commonalities… #lrnchat
9:52:35 pm rmyardley: Love it RT @sillym0nkey: If you cant get the community to participate then some one is probably trying to lead aone man parade #lrnchat
9:52:35 pm Abhinava: @Quinnovator #lrnchat I would also measure new directions and purposes
9:52:36 pm chambo_online: @Mary_a_Myers agreed – it is one component…others needed to be community tho. #lrnchat
9:52:37 pm nancyrubin: Attended Campus Tech Virtual Conference today – lots of comm. building in lounge and sessions. Good connections and conversations #lrnchat
9:52:42 pm gwoodill: @ThomasStone Actually, once you are an adult, you can choose who in your family is part of your community. #lrnchat
9:52:46 pm tgrevatt: Communities come out of authenticity, can’t force them. Also they form (created or ntly) to serve a need, if needs met, folks join. #lrnchat
9:52:51 pm gminks: @roninchef I agree w that, you have to make it mean something for them, so they’ll want to connect #lrnchat
9:53:00 pm reward75: @Mary_a_Myers True, even if it’s cyberspace. #lrnchat
9:53:07 pm sillym0nkey: RT @Quinnovator: exactly! RT @reward75: @Quinnovator http://bit.ly/4ABC2p #lrnchat
9:53:11 pm kasey428: Obama had more than scaffolding. He had massive campaign staff. Enough participated to get the job done though. #lrnchat
9:53:26 pm Quinnovator: Wow, that time already? Thanks to all you great #lrnchat participants. Laughs, great thoughts, always a great time! Truly, a community!
9:53:33 pm pedepede2: Qwrap) Natalie in Sydney. Embarking on community *building*coaxing*pursuading*, crossed fingers. #lrnchat
9:53:35 pm JoanVinallCox: Joan Vinall-Cox – from Oakville Ontario – interested in how we all learn differnetly, & tech & social #lrnchat
9:53:48 pm mpetersell: Mike from Connecticut; thanks for letting me be part of this community: http://bit.ly/87T8tm #lrnchat
9:53:55 pm gminks: I’m Gina outside Boston, I’m hoping if I post a link to our Rummler presentation (for grad class) some of you will evaluate it! #lrnchat
9:53:57 pm cognovi: communities emerge when there is a need. To have people participate you need to create a need …#lrnchat
9:53:58 pm ThomasStone: Important to note how fortunate we are to live in USA/Canada/etc. In some countries, you don’t choose work or housing community. #lrnchat
9:53:58 pm Mary_a_Myers: @JaneBozarth b/c what works or doesn’t work 4 “neighbourhoods” may be handy when thinking about the type of co we r talking about #lrnchat
9:54:02 pm hjarche: My latest thoughts on communities: Success depends on who we work with http://is.gd/58Xbe #lrnchat
9:54:05 pm kasey428: RT @tgrevatt: Communities come out of authenticity, cant force them. …serve a need, if needs met, folks join. #lrnchat
9:54:11 pm rmyardley: Bye everyone enjoyed the chat. Russell Yardley Woodend (out of Melbourne) Australia. It’s Fri afternoon think I’ll get a drink! :-) #lrnchat
9:54:19 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @tgrevatt: Communities from authenticity, cant force. Also they form (created or ntly) 2 serve a need, if needs met, folks join. #lrnchat
9:54:20 pm gminks: @kasey428 Obama used old-school community building #lrnchat
9:54:22 pm bobbivernon: RT @cammybean: There are intentional communities & then there are urnneighbors.–>Then there are intentional n’bors, like the MIL!? #lrnchat
9:54:27 pm ajeanne: Night everyone. In San Jose, signing off for dinner. Nice to see y’all. #lrnchat
9:54:30 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, learning technology strategy consultant, learning experience design instigator, learnlets.com blogger, #Lrnchat
9:54:36 pm busynessgirl: Help me get Ch3 of my dissertation finished. If you see me goofing off, ask how Ch3 is coming along. #lrnchat
9:54:36 pm scareytweets: RT @cognovi: communities emerge when there is a need. To have people participate you need to create a need …#lrnchat #lrnchat
9:54:45 pm JaneBozarth: Good night! RDU, NC, USA http://bozarthzone.blogspot.com. And oh yes, dissertation on … communities of practice #lrnchat
9:54:49 pm cammybean: Go team, go! Cammy Bean signing off from New England. Thx for the community. #lrnchat
9:54:50 pm Mary_a_Myers: @JoanVinallCox hey oakville was where i was born! #lrnchat
9:54:51 pm nancyrubin: Thanks for a great topic tonight. Great conversation with fascinating people – my favorite night of the week. #lrnchat
9:54:55 pm chambo_online: Lisa Chamberlin – conference proposal writer on the topic of community bldg affecting learning…this has been helpful :-) #lrnchat
9:55:01 pm kasey428: Darn, next week, maybe, just maybe I won’t work so late. #lrnchat
9:55:02 pm atsc: Andrew from Sydney, need help with Blackboard 9. Can I show you our course template? #lrnchat
9:55:03 pm reward75: Regina, NYC, jack of all things learning and learning more thanks to #lrnchat
9:55:15 pm gwoodill: Gary Woodill near Cobourg, Ontario. Enjoyed the chat. #lrnchat
9:55:16 pm roninchef: @gminks I’d love to have my org adopt better community methods. All I can do is be ready for when they want to. #lrnchat
9:55:28 pm gminks: @cammybean hi! and bye! #lrnchat
9:55:29 pm minutebio: Been great, thanks – Jeff from Baltimore, e-Learning Designer #lrnchat
9:55:31 pm ThomasStone: @gwoodill I was referring to the family qua community. You are born into it, not chosen like others (in free countries at least) #lrnchat
9:55:32 pm kellygarber: IMO – we are all part of communities whether we want to be or not – communities are labeled segments of the whole. #lrnchat
9:55:40 pm JoanVinallCox: @Mary_a_Myers Cool! #lrnchat
9:55:45 pm kasey428: RT @gminks: @kasey428 Obama used old-school community building >Concur, but with a massive campaign staff engineering the effort. #lrnchat
9:55:52 pm Mary_a_Myers: Mary Myers enroute from Toronto to Kingston, going home to deal with another type of community, happy to catch even a minute of #lrnchat
9:55:56 pm sillym0nkey: Deb in ATL – game-based learning – had lots of fun chatting tonight #lrnchat
9:55:59 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, North Texas, Kirkpatricking the night away, ISD person and procrastinating blogger #lrnchat
9:56:03 pm Abhinava: Qwrap: Abhinava S.N From Bangalore, India – making drunks in #lrnchat now – advocate of CTCA – Clear thinking Concise Articulation
9:56:15 pm cammybean: I just have to say that scaffolding is a complete learning geek word. #lrnchat
9:56:17 pm ronindotca: I like when my community is a bit stealth. We don’t need any stinking badges. #lrnchat (via @kelly_smith01)
9:56:32 pm busynessgirl: Nice to be part of your community tonight. Legs tired. Signing off. #lrnchat
9:56:35 pm cammybean: @gminks hi bye! #lrnchat
9:56:38 pm pedepede2: Believe some still have little choice of work/housing community in USA/Canada etc @ThomasStone #lrnchat
9:56:49 pm tgrevatt: Good to visit w you again. Treena from Ottawa, recovering physics prof & SoMe junkie, making mischief up here when I can. #lrnchat
9:56:53 pm cognovi: Good night for Ontario Canada, enjoyed the chat #lrnchat
9:56:54 pm bobbivernon: G’night from Charlottesville, VA, where I’m left to ponder my fascination with definitions & their impact on process/acceptance #lrnchat
9:56:56 pm ThomasStone: Thomas Stone, Product Design Architect at Element K, in Rochester, New York. Another good #lrnchat tonight!
9:57:00 pm JaneBozarth: @Mary_a_Myers Not interested in joining that ‘community’ . Bought house and will put up with what I must. #lrnchat
9:57:14 pm kasey428: RT @cammybean: I just have to say that scaffolding is a complete learning geek word. >Sooooooo true. #lrnchat
9:57:16 pm kelly_smith01: RT @cammybean: I just have to say that scaffolding is a complete learning geek word. #lrnchat
9:57:18 pm trishuhl: I agree – communities need to start / grow organically – eg study groups that evolve from a training cohort – w common need / goal #lrnchat
9:57:19 pm atsc: @cammybean Yes quit with the scaffolding, I don’t want to be a builder… #lrnchat
9:57:23 pm JoanVinallCox: @Abhinava that’s a great phrase – “CTCA – Clear thinking Concise Articulation” thanks #lrnchat
9:57:31 pm ThomasStone: Hey all folks in #lrnchat tonight… here is a laugh for you… may your Friday be more productive than this! http://bit.ly/4AgZ3u
9:57:32 pm chambo_online: RT @cammybean: I just have to say that scaffolding is a complete learning geek word. #lrnchat
9:57:35 pm kellygarber: RT @cammybean: I just have to say that scaffolding is a complete learning geek word. #lrnchat
9:57:55 pm atsc: Good afternoon to you all… #lrnchat
9:57:56 pm Quinnovator: I resemble that remark RT @cammybean: I just have to say that scaffolding is a complete learning geek word. #lrnchat
9:58:15 pm sillym0nkey: RT @ronindotca: I like community a bit stealth. don’t need stinking badges. > Who needs Mensa Card? #lrnchat (via @kelly_smith01)
9:58:26 pm chambo_online: I am a learning geek *high five* #lrnchat
9:58:30 pm Mary_a_Myers: @JaneBozarth gonna read transcript and figure out the topic…prob with jumping and not really knowing what’s going on… #lrnchat
9:58:35 pm JaneBozarth: RT @cammybean I just have to say that scaffolding is a complete learning geek word. #lrnchat
9:58:45 pm trishuhl: Nodding RT @kelly_smith01 @busynessgirl: @JaneBozarth How @ the Obama campaign community? Carefully crafted and highly successful. #lrnchat
9:58:47 pm marciamarcia: If you aren’t listed on the http://sn.im/lrnchat-list yet, pls let me know. Marcia Conner, #lrnchat founder & goofball.
9:59:03 pm mpetersell: I never scaffold #lrnchat
9:59:07 pm kelly_smith01: Judging from the RTs the term scaffolding has legs #lrnchat
9:59:18 pm elatedca: Good night from eLATED in the GTA! #lrnchat
9:59:36 pm cammybean: @Quinnovator You and all the other learning geeks here! #lrnchat
10:00:13 pm roninchef: Mason Masteka, Elearning Curriculum Dev in ME. Go get Alchemy http://al.chemy.org/ and sketch something! It’s my new favorite app. #lrnchat
10:00:14 pm cammybean: @Mary_a_Myers It had something to do with scaffolding and neighbors. #lrnchat
10:00:16 pm kellygarber: <— Freelance Instructional Designer, good night lrnchat community! #lrnchat
10:00:23 pm lrnchat: Thank you for joining us on #lrnchat. Pls remember to submit Qs & theme ideas for upcoming chats at http://sn.im/lrnchat. See u next week!

Transcript 19 Nov 09

November 20, 2009 by Marcia Conner

8:30:00 pm lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been? Q0 warm up after the rules.
8:30:44 pm lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1) Introduce yourself. (We do this again at the end). Location? Focus? Fave topics?
8:31:09 pm jsuzcampos: rapid fire #lrnchat tweets in 3 – 2 – 1 #lrnchat
8:31:57 pm gminks: RT @JaneBozarth: Followers: #lrnchat not your thing? You can filter out with Tweetdeck(via roninchef)http://pic.gd/fab1fd #lrnchat
8:32:11 pm busynessgirl: For all my followers, expect a lot of tweets for the next 90 min. Join if you’d like I’m about to begin participating in #lrnchat
8:32:18 pm gminks: hello #lrnchat
8:32:32 pm lrnchat: 2) [try to] stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 20 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
8:32:42 pm insynctraining: Jennifer Hofmann, CT, passionate about helping people be effective in virtual classroom #lrnchat
8:33:13 pm JaneBozarth: RDU, Trainer/IDer, Pompatus of love #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:33:17 pm gwoodill: Gary Woodill, living on a lake in Canada. Working for Brandon Hall Research. #lrnchat
8:33:17 pm lrnchat: 3) When writing, complete thoughts help followers outside chat learn from you. 4) on #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm, welcome tho.
8:33:18 pm bschlenker: RT @JaneBozarth: Followers: #lrnchat in 6 minutes. Not your thing? You can filter out with Tweetdeck(via roninchef)http://pic.gd/fab1fd
8:33:32 pm KoreenOlbrish: hello lrnchatters! Koreen Olbrish, fresh back from #dl09 and zombie free. Just west of Philly. Games, virtual worlds… #lrnchat
8:33:33 pm nancyrubin: South Florida; eLearning, Web2.0, Instructional Design, Project and Process Mgmt #lrnchat
8:33:42 pm sahana2802: Sahana, India, ID. Keen on exploring potentials of SoMe in learning, sharing, making sense of world arnd us.Try hard not to miss #lrnchat
8:33:47 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, Texas, #learntrends burn out, hope to stay awake, and be social #lrnchat
8:34:08 pm BlakeGroup: Amy here–hello! I do creative services (writing/graphic design/SM) for utilities, education, healthcare, tech, prof serv clients. #lrnchat
8:34:15 pm jaycross: Just in from #learntrends. Whew. Three days, man. Three days! #lrnchat
8:34:20 pm SueSchnorr: Hi everyone, Good to ’see’ you, from Sue, freelance instructional designer, Rochester, NY #lrnchat
8:34:21 pm lrnchat: 5) Periodically RT questions so others outside #lrnchat know what you’re talking about so they can chime in.
8:34:25 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman Corporate e-Learning Baltimore, MD USA #lrnchat
8:34:31 pm jsuzcampos: Q1, Jeannette Campos, New Hampsha, lover of all things #lrnchat-ish, logging in for 30 mins #lrnchat
8:34:37 pm Mary_a_Myers: I’m Mary in Kingston, focus is learning: all kinds, fave topics of the week include conference learning and sharing. #lrnchat
8:34:38 pm espnguyen: Time to #lrnchat then some Buckeye bball tweets.
8:34:39 pm busynessgirl: Maria Andersen, math prof, social media & tech enthusiast, hacking higher education to the best of my ability. #lrnchat
8:34:43 pm willswords: Will Findlay, Lee’s Summit Missouri, Healthcare Information Technology #lrnchat
8:34:50 pm gminks: Gina, community manager & tech training developer @ #EMC, ISD grad student @ FSU, outside Boston and ready for a vacation!!! #lrnchat
8:34:50 pm instructron: Instructron, EDTEC student at SDSU, interested in social media learning. #lrnchat
8:34:55 pm sillym0nkey: I am Deb Thomas – SillyMonkey! my first #lrnchat I have read the tweets as they show up in fb or twtr but never participated!
8:35:02 pm JaneBozarth: Hey @jaycross aren’t you exhausted? Great work on #learntrends #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:35:15 pm kelly_smith01: I am a zombie tonight after 8 hours of chat #lrnchat
8:35:17 pm ValerieRoberts: Hi, I’m Valerie Roberts, Sr Instructional Designer, geek, Phoenix #lrnchat
8:35:17 pm LearningPutty: Renee Robbins, Chicago www.learningputty.com #lrnchat
8:35:23 pm jaycross: Jay here. Changing from consultant to speaker/gadfly/change agent. In Berkeley at the moment #lrnchat
8:35:25 pm roninchef: Mason Masteka Elearning Dev in Portland, ME. This week has been about my PLN and Blender 3d. I can almost make stuff in it now. #lrnchat
8:35:26 pm DavidAKnopf: David Knopf, San Francisco, ID and eLearning for healthcare #lrnchat
8:35:31 pm nickfloro: Hi, WashX PA, learning, design and helping people to learn new things. Fighting the flu bug with the family. #lrnchat
8:35:32 pm Mary_a_Myers: @jaycross well done Jay! my head is exploding with ideas from #learntrends #lrnchat
8:35:35 pm jsuzcampos: @sillym0nkey Welcome Deb! #lrnchat
8:35:37 pm jclarey: Janet Clarey. Balmy Upstate New York. Work for Brandon Hall Research as a researcher and analyst. #lrnchat
8:35:37 pm lrnchat: 6) Remember to include the #lrnchat in all posts. http://tweetchat.com, http://tweetgrid.com & http://twubs.com/lrnchat work well.
8:35:38 pm LearningPutty: @sillym0nkey Welcome!!! #lrnchat
8:35:39 pm tonya_simmons: Tonya Goth Simmons, elearning production designer for Phasient Learning Technologies in Ames, IA #lrnchat
8:35:49 pm hybridkris: Kris Rockwell, Pittsburgh, PA – Mobile learning, ARG’s and, apparently, the occasional fifth of bourbon. #lrnchat
8:36:07 pm jaycross: JaneBozarth Hey @jaycross aren’t you exhausted? Great work on #learntrends. Yeah, I’m punchy now. Watch out! #lrnchat
8:36:08 pm roninchef: @jaycross Great job this week Jay! Thank you for all the hard work. #lrnchat
8:36:14 pm lrnchat: 7) 10 min before end, tell us if you need anything from the other #lrnchat participants. Time to reintroduce yourself, too. Links welcome.
8:36:33 pm SrtaOwens: Cheers from Wisconsin #lrnchat
8:36:52 pm kelly_smith01: @jaycross did a great job today as one of the hosts of #devlearn #lrnchat
8:36:55 pm jaycross: We plugged #lrnchat six times in the last three days. Wonder how many people are here for first time? #lrnchat
8:37:11 pm jadekaz: Jade, training developer, Milwaukee. Student at BSU. #lrnchat
8:37:32 pm JaneBozarth: @jclarey YOU did a good job in #learntrends, too! #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:37:41 pm lrnchat: 8) Please RT important points & vital questions asked for clarification, so we don’t miss them amid the lively fast-paced #lrnchat
8:37:51 pm kasey428: Kay Wood, metro DC, performance consulting, passionate abt instructional design & e-learning #lrnchat
8:38:02 pm dpeter: David Peter, Director Center for Teaching/Learning, VIncennes University – Indiana #lrnchat
8:38:08 pm joe_deegan: Making it just in time for #lrnchat Watch out for storm of learning tweets/
8:38:15 pm lrnchat: Q0 (our weekly #lrnchat welcome, also check out @lrn2day) What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
8:38:22 pm JffZllr: Jeff Zoller – Learning Developer, Columbus OH (also father of two who won’t go to sleep.) #lrnchat
8:38:34 pm kelly_smith01: I mean #learntrends – zombies forget the name of event #lrnchat
8:38:42 pm jaycross: Warning to followers: #lrnchat lightening ready to strike. Join in if you want to feel the power of the Twiitersphere #lrnchat
8:39:07 pm denniscallahan: Checking in for a little while… #lrnchat/
8:39:12 pm dpeter: Q0 – Used mindomo to develop workshop. #lrnchat
8:39:17 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q0 I learned that my 7 yo would trade both his legs for a lifetime supply of pudding. #momfail #lrnchat
8:39:20 pm jsuzcampos: Q0) I am SO excited to announce that I learned a new word today that I bet even @Dave_Ferguson doesn’t know, and he’s not here! #lrnchat
8:39:30 pm JffZllr: to followers… will be busy next hour w/ #lrnchat
8:39:47 pm marciamarcia: @jaycross About 20 new ppl followed @lrnchat in last 3 days. ~Same after #dl09 & #l2009. Welcome everyone! #lrnchat
8:39:48 pm rmyardley: Russell Yardley Melbourne Australia developing SoMe learning communities. Here for the first time. #lrnchat
8:39:54 pm Mary_a_Myers: i learned that it is hard to articulate everything I experienced at #dl09 in a coherent way to my peers @ work. #lrnchat
8:39:56 pm insynctraining: Learned about effectiveness of vid v. ‘live’ in patient education #lrnchat
8:39:56 pm joe_deegan: Instructional Designer/eLearning developer from Sacramento. Glad to make it this week. #lrnchat
8:40:05 pm busynessgirl: RT @lrnchat: Q0 (our weekly #lrnchat welcome) What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week? #lrnchat
8:40:12 pm bschlenker: RT @bschlenker: Brent Schlenker – Phx, AZ – DevLearn Guy – still pumped from #dl09 – planning #dl10 – All things eLearning #lrnchat
8:40:14 pm JaneBozarth: @jsuzcampos ok what’s the word? #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:40:19 pm Mary_a_Myers: @KoreenOlbrish what kind of pudding? #lrnchat
8:40:20 pm kathreenriel: #lrnchat hi everyone I’m looking forward to discovering what it’s like to “drink from the firehose” as mentioned earlier today
8:40:21 pm dpeter: Q0 developing totally digital workshops for next semester #lrnchat
8:40:45 pm cindyhugg: Cindy Huggett, Raleigh NC (or anywhere my suitcase is), ASTD volunteer, and Training Consultant w/ AchieveGlobal. #lrnchat
8:40:51 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q0 also started using linoit.com and etherpad.com this week…both awesome collaboration tools #lrnchat
8:40:51 pm gminks: Q0 this week I learned that when an opportunity appears it may not be exactly what you expected (it may be even better!!) #lrnchat
8:40:52 pm busynessgirl: Q0 This week I’ve learned just how much I rely on having Internet access to connect with the world. (hit my FAP and am w/o) #lrnchat
8:40:53 pm janet_frg: Janet, indiana, elearning and business transformation. Stuck in a mtg, but still fired up from #learntrends now at #lrnchat
8:40:56 pm nancyrubin: Q0 – learned there is a lot of confusion between the role of LMS and SNS (social network service) although I like systems better #lrnchat
8:41:02 pm jaycross: RT @jsuzcampos: Q0) I am SO excited to announce that I learned a new word today YOU gonna share? #lrnchat
8:41:03 pm gminks: RT @JaneBozarth: @jsuzcampos ok whats the word? #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:41:05 pm Mary_a_Myers: going to get drink… #lrnchat
8:41:14 pm willswords: Q0) found prof’s super textbook: http://webpub.byu.net/asg33/isdtoc.html and great way to embed mp3: http://flash-mp3-player.net/ #lrnchat
8:41:17 pm KoreenOlbrish: @Mary_a_Myers i asked…he said chocolate or vanilla. #lrnchat
8:41:21 pm dpeter: This is the convergence of ideas, get ready … to LEARN #lrnchat
8:41:21 pm kelly_smith01: I learned some trends associated with informal learning via #learntrends #lrnchat
8:41:25 pm jaycross: Is @quinnovator here or still on some fool airplane? #lrnchat
8:41:27 pm jsuzcampos: RT @JaneBozarth ok whats the word? <<CONCINNITY #lrnchat
8:41:27 pm LearningPutty: 0) Took Google Wave out for a spin with other #learntrends folks and found it can be a great learning tool! #lrnchat
8:41:40 pm BlakeGroup: Learned (not for first time) that the best way to test if you know something is to explain it to someone else! #lrnchat
8:41:45 pm joe_deegan: Learned how to use hands in eLearning via @elearning art http://bit.ly/Njb6b #lrnchat
8:42:01 pm kelly_smith01: Also learned Internet speed can be slow in Norway #lrnchat
8:42:15 pm wlonline: Getting into #lrnchat….
8:42:23 pm kasey428: Q0 My desire to learn grows exponentially. So little time. #lrnchat
8:42:23 pm ajeanne: Jeanne Farrington, San Jose, CA…. learned to be careful what I talk about–might just have to give a presentation on it :) #lrnchat
8:42:28 pm cindyhugg: Q0 this week I've re-learned not to take things for granted. a good reminder. #lrnchat
8:42:29 pm joe_deegan: @BlakeGroup That's also the best way to learn something #lrnchat
8:42:37 pm JaneBozarth: @LearningPutty #learntrends conversations did a lot to help me learn to be better w/ Google Wave #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:42:47 pm jaycross: RT @kelly_smith01: Also learned Internet speed can be slow in Norway | Funny. Geo Siemens learned the same lesson today #lrnchat
8:42:50 pm sahana2802: @jsuzcampos Tht reminds me: I lrnd the word "kaflooey" today & loved it. Has such a happy ring to it in contrast to its meaning. #lrnchat
8:42:52 pm roninchef: The firehose is like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXc5ltzKq3Y #lrnchat
8:42:58 pm JaneBozarth: That reminds me: I have a couple of Google Wave invites left. Anyone in #lrnchat need one? #lrnchat
8:43:01 pm dpeter: RT @kasey428: Q0 My desire to learn grows exponentially. So little time. #lrnchat
8:43:01 pm ValerieRoberts: Q0- Learned that New Oxford Amer Dictionary's word of the year is UNFRIEND http://bit.ly/kuJqz #lrnchat
8:43:02 pm hybridkris: I learned that @moehlert is "The Don" of eLearning. And that the LMS standard still isn't. #lrnchat -And that I need an auto hashtag feature
8:43:03 pm gminks: definition? can you use it in a sentence? :D RT @jsuzcampos: RT @JaneBozarth ok whats the word? <<CONCINNITY #lrnchat
8:43:08 pm kelly_smith01: Started working on my PKM (Personal Knowledge Network) #lrnchat
8:43:12 pm marciamarcia: Me? Virginia-based, #lrnchat founder, lurking tonight while cranking on book about SM for #e20 learning.
8:43:32 pm busynessgirl: Q0 Learned how powerful the use of manipulatives can be in teaching math from seeing students succeed where they have past failed. #lrnchat
8:43:38 pm kasey428: @sahana2802 Kaflooey is a great word! #lrnchat
8:43:39 pm bacigalupe: When will Google launch an LMS that forces Blackboard to grow up and be a better product? #lrnchat
8:43:52 pm kelly_smith01: Still have not caught the Wave? #lrnchat
8:44:07 pm KristiBroom: Kristi Broom, MN, learned there is a limit to my multi-tasking. I can do 2 things well, 3 pretty well, 4 very poorly. #lrnchat
8:44:07 pm minutebio: Learned this today that sometimes clients limit what they reveal to you, but tell the world via Twitter and LinkedIn. #lrnchat
8:44:16 pm LearningPutty: @JaneBozarth awesome! Using Wave was a great experience. Looking forward to doing it again! #lrnchat
8:44:17 pm nickfloro: Q0 – learned about gamesalad.com, amazing software for the mac to create iphone based apps with drag and drop. Exciting! #lrnchat
8:44:19 pm busynessgirl: @bacigalupe Try moodle? #lrnchat
8:44:24 pm jadekaz: Q0 Learned how to add Google Analytics to a blog. (very easy) #lrnchat
8:44:34 pm jaycross: Uh, munipulatives? #lrnchat
8:44:43 pm jsuzcampos: @gminks @JaneBozarth: Concinnity: A skillful and harmonious adaption or piecing together of parts. *brilliant!* #lrnchat
8:44:44 pm hjarche: . @hybridkris use http://tweetchat.com/room/lrnchat for auto hashtag feature #lrnchat
8:44:46 pm kelly_smith01: RT @minutebio: Learned this today that sometimes clients limit what they reveal to you, but tell the world via Twitter & LinkedIn. #lrnchat
8:44:48 pm dpeter: @kelly_smith01 DM me for an invite #lrnchat
8:44:48 pm Mary_a_Myers: smithwicks has been poured #lrnchat
8:44:54 pm denniscallahan: @kelly_smith01 – I haven't either…hoping to in near future #lrnchat
8:44:54 pm cindyhugg: @JaneBozarth I just got my Google Wave invite this week, need to start playing. Tips for getting started? #lrnchat
8:44:59 pm wlonline: @bacigalupe Mb we wont be talking LMS but wider, learning networks, etc #lrnchat
8:45:07 pm joe_deegan: @busynessgirl You took the words right out of my mouth by recommending moodle #lrnchat
8:45:08 pm kasey428: @bacigalupe @busynessgirl yes, Moodle. #lrnchat
8:45:19 pm kathreenriel: #lrnchat ahh…this is like an idea moshpit:):)
8:45:28 pm bacigalupe: RT @moehlert @lrnchat learn today that some people don't believe Wikipedia is "credible" & have no criteria to base that belief on #lrnchat
8:45:28 pm lrnchat: Q1) How can internal social networks impact the performance of the org? What can we do to further this along? #lrnchat
8:45:33 pm jaycross: Concinnity: bricolage with joy. #lrnchat
8:45:35 pm busynessgirl: @jaycross Stuff you can play with to understand math concepts (fraction bars, decimal blocks, etc) #lrnchat
8:45:37 pm BlakeGroup: @ValerieRoberts @joe_deegan We are best as teachers when we remember how to be students, eh?! #lrnchat
8:45:40 pm rmyardley: #lrnchat Q0 I have learnt that people use new tools (Wave) just like old ones (email). Need to use imagination more.
8:45:45 pm Mary_a_Myers: @cindyhugg seach with "with:public" to see what's out there… #lrnchat
8:45:50 pm wlonline: @cindyhugg there's a complete wave guide http://completewaveguide.com/ #lrnchat
8:45:52 pm joe_deegan: @Mary_a_Myers Sounds good. You've inspired me to grab a Full Sail Amber Ale #lrnchat
8:45:53 pm JaneBozarth: @cindyhugg There's a good Wave cheat sheet somewhere– remind me later? #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:45:54 pm jadekaz: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can internal social networks impact the performance of the org? What can we do to further this along? #lrnchat
8:45:55 pm gwoodill: Q0 – learned that the disease "halitosis" was made up to sell more Listerine, which was a disinfectant. #lrnchat
8:45:58 pm hjarche: @Mary_a_Myers not a local Kingston brew? #lrnchat
8:46:00 pm kelly_smith01: Don't run with Wave open you may poke out an eye #lrnchat
8:46:04 pm Mary_a_Myers: @kathreenriel nice! i like that! #lrnchat
8:46:08 pm SrtaOwens: QO "Children are likely to live up to what you believe in them." Ladybird Johnson #lrnchat
8:46:08 pm espnguyen: Steve Nguyen, Mpls, Excited about the explosion of Yammer in our org #lrnchat
8:46:20 pm tmiket: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can internal social networks impact the performance of the org? What can we do to further this along? #lrnchat
8:46:21 pm JaneBozarth: RT @rmyardley: #lrnchat Q0 I have learnt that people use new tools (Wave) just like old ones (email). Need to use imagination more. #lrnchat
8:46:24 pm jaycross: One of our #learntrends speakers, Laura, kept her maiden name because she couldn't handle having the initials LMS #lrnchat
8:46:24 pm dpeter: Q1 Internal networks can work to further or impede performance #lrnchat
8:46:29 pm sahana2802: RT @lrnchat Q1) How can internal social networks impact the performance of the org? What can we do to further this along? #lrnchat
8:46:36 pm kelly_smith01: I need a cheat sheet for my cheat sheets #lrnchat
8:46:37 pm gminks: @lrnchat Q1 haven't there always been internal social nws? Are we talking about tools to expose the existing nws? #lrnchat
8:46:47 pm busynessgirl: Q1 "What can we do to further it along" depends on whether it's a good thing. LOL #lrnchat
8:46:54 pm kasey428: @cindyhugg Thus far I am disappointed in Wave. Not sure what the excitment is abt. #lrnchat
8:46:54 pm Dave_Ferguson: @espnguyen Always good to hear about this stuff being done at actual workplaces. #lrnchat
8:46:57 pm jaycross: RT @gwoodill: Q0 – learned that the disease "halitosis" was made up to sell more Listerine, which was a disinfectant.| Is that so? #lrnchat
8:47:04 pm bschlenker: #lrnchat Q0) learned that the eLearning community is made up of many amazing diverse wicked cool people!
8:47:04 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can internal social networks impact the performance of the org? What can we do to further this along? #lrnchat
8:47:05 pm espnguyen: Q0 I learned how McDonalds manages multilane drivethrus. They take pictures. I think they are taking before and after pics #lrnchat
8:47:09 pm Mary_a_Myers: @hjarche ah no…too bad…although there are a few good microbrews close by #lrnchat
8:47:11 pm roninchef: RT @jaycross: One of our #learntrends speakers, Laura, kept her maiden name because she couldnt handle having the initials LMS #lrnchat
8:47:16 pm Dave_Ferguson: Hey, how come TweetChat doesn't update when you hit enter? Is it THAT hard? #lrnchat
8:47:24 pm LM1: I think social networks can improve organizations #lrnchat
8:47:28 pm nancyrubin: @busynessgirl have you seen this? http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/david_merrill_demos_siftables_the_smart_blocks.html #lrnchat
8:47:30 pm JaneBozarth: Q1 Smoother sailing in the event of turnover, even building/office moves #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:47:30 pm jsuzcampos: Google wave cheat sheet: http://www.googlewaveinfo.com/200911/google-wave-cheat-sheet/?utm_source=twitterfeed #lrnchat
8:47:32 pm LearningPutty: RT @lrnchat Q1) How can internal social networks impact the performance of the org? What can we do to further this along? #lrnchat
8:47:33 pm bacigalupe: RT @wlonline: @cindyhugg there's a complete wave guide http://completewaveguide.com/ #lrnchat
8:47:34 pm DavidAKnopf: @gminks And grow new ones … #lrnchat
8:47:36 pm dpeter: Q1 To move performance along requires ALL to use social networks in all aspects or organization. Use it and GROW #lrnchat
8:47:40 pm BlakeGroup: Q1 Internal SM is a great way to communicate w/ employees who don't sit at desks. Can use laptop, mobile. #lrnchat
8:47:48 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can internal social networks impact the performance of the org? What can we do to further this along? #lrnchat
8:47:56 pm denniscallahan: How do you identify where it is working/not working? Who decides? #lrnchat
8:47:56 pm cindyhugg: @JaneBozarth thanks, will do (re: wave) #lrnchat
8:47:59 pm ajeanne: Apologizing in advance for avalanche of tweets from #lrnchat.
8:48:09 pm busynessgirl: Q1 Oldest internal social network is the water cooler chat. Is that a good or bad thing? #lrnchat
8:48:10 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) How can internal social networks impact the performance of the org? What can we do to further this along? RT @lrnchat #lrnchat
8:48:12 pm bschlenker: RT @jsuzcampos: @gminks @JaneBozarth: Concinnity: A skillful and harmonious adaption or piecing together of parts. *brilliant!* #lrnchat
8:48:18 pm kelly_smith01: Work with IT they are our friends. They like us. need to get buy in from them #lrnchat
8:48:22 pm espnguyen: @StephanieDaul Welcome to #lrnchat
8:48:28 pm JffZllr: q1 – it is the virtual watercooler. But I still have to filter the relevant out … #lrnchat
8:48:28 pm BlakeGroup: @lrnchat: Q1) How can internal social networks impact the performance of the org? What can we do to further this along? #lrnchat
8:48:38 pm dpeter: RT @denniscallahan: How do you identify where it is working/not working? Who decides? #lrnchat
8:48:40 pm cindyhugg: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can internal social networks impact the performance of the org? What can we do to further this along? #lrnchat
8:48:43 pm Dave_Ferguson: (1/2) I'm utterly convinced most compelling use of social network is: a respected colleague gets stuff done using it… #lrnchat
8:48:44 pm jadekaz: Use the tools and learn how to work them and what they are about. Experiment with sn yourself. #lrnchat
8:48:44 pm busynessgirl: @nancyrubin Yes, blogged about that in past. Will have to remember to show to my class. #lrnchat
8:48:48 pm JaneBozarth: Yes RT @kelly_smith01: Work with IT they are our friends. They like us. need to get buy in from them #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:48:49 pm LM1: internal social networks allow employees to share ideas & knowledge quickly, & it provides a spot to search for specific info #lrnchat
8:48:55 pm gminks: RT @kelly_smith01: Work with IT they are our friends. They like us. need to get buy in from them #lrnchat
8:48:57 pm Dave_Ferguson: (2/2) Validation, demonstration, not proselytization. #lrnchat
8:48:58 pm JffZllr: 1) But like any tool… it can be abused/misused. #lrnchat
8:49:00 pm badsquare: RT @kelly_smith01 Work with IT they are our friends. They like us. need to get buy in from them #lrnchat
8:49:05 pm kelly_smith01: Use catch phrases like "collaboration" to sell to management #lrnchat
8:49:09 pm jaycross: Social networks can help the organization keep from going into the toilet from cluelessness. #lrnchat
8:49:11 pm espnguyen: RT @jsuzcampos: Q1) How can internal social networks impact the performance of the org? What can we do to further this along? #lrnchat
8:49:13 pm DavidAKnopf: Q1)Can have a huge impact, but we are not always ideally positioned to push it forward. #lrnchat
8:49:14 pm joe_deegan: @chet_stevenson Welcome to Twitterville! Follow the hashtag #lrnchat to meet some training/learning tweeps. Live chat right now.
8:49:17 pm LearningPutty: Q1) The larger companies get the harder it is to find the SME you need. Internal social networks can help to connect ppl. #lrnchat
8:49:19 pm nancyrubin: Q1 – Social networks can create synergy in an organization – enhanced sense of community – if implemented and supported right #lrnchat
8:49:23 pm tmiket: @JffZllr Many more ppl and more interesting at the twitter water cooler no? 8-) #lrnchat
8:49:31 pm dpeter: Q1 Who determines the impact of the network? The members? #lrnchat
8:49:33 pm gminks: Q1 being serious – social nw tools can expose existing social networks for everyone to use #lrnchat
8:49:34 pm LM1: Are there negative aspects to internal social networks? #lrnchat
8:49:37 pm denniscallahan: To those that follow me: I'm participating in #lrnchat for a while – please ignore.
8:49:39 pm kasey428: Q1 One of my performance measures for nxt yr is to design & implement a social network for IDs and curriculum develoeprs at work #lrnchat
8:49:42 pm JaneBozarth: @kelly_smith01 and learn to speak in IT's terms #lrnchat
8:49:42 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) Internal social networks have always impacted performance. Know, we're just admitting it and making it "strategic" #lrnchat
8:49:46 pm BlakeGroup: @busynessgirl Love the water cooler, but too many people work away from office now. Maybe SM is the new water cooler! #lrnchat
8:49:46 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @bschlenker: #lrnchat Q0) learned that the eLearning community is made up of many amazing diverse wicked cool people! #lrnchat
8:49:50 pm rmyardley: SoMe shows you people and ideas in your organisation you didn't know existed. #lrnchat
8:49:54 pm kelly_smith01: Plus I have more fun at Happy Hour with IT folks. But I do go home before they do #lrnchat
8:50:02 pm busynessgirl: Q1 Or the "grapevine" … another old-fashioned social network in organizations. Can be used for good or evil. #lrnchat
8:50:03 pm hybridkris: @LearningPutty I agree with that, especially when the are located across the country. #lrnchat
8:50:05 pm LM1: What are some of the most common internal social networks? #lrnchat
8:50:08 pm JffZllr: RT @LearningPutty: Q1) The larger companies get the harder it is to find the SME you need. Internal social networks can help #lrnchat
8:50:17 pm chrisstjohn: Next version of Outlook 2010 will auto display Twitter/FB personal info. http://bit.ly/uSSK8 #lrnchat
8:50:21 pm jaycross: Oehlert last week at DevLearn #dl09. IT people are okay. They don't eat puppies. (I think the cards are still out on that) #lrnchat
8:50:23 pm tmiket: @kasey428 How will you be measured? use? Or just the existence of it? #lrnchat
8:50:27 pm minutebio: RT @jsuzcampos Internal social networks have always impacted performance. Know, were just admitting it and making it "strategic" #lrnchat
8:50:32 pm Dave_Ferguson: @dpeter Great Q. I think indivs determine value of the nodes they know… & often realize "the network" is far larger. #lrnchat
8:50:34 pm joe_deegan: Q1) I'm having a hell of time furthering Social media along. I'm the only early adopter advertising the benefits like a mad man. #lrnchat
8:50:41 pm dpeter: @BlakeGroup SM may be the new water cooler, but it's good to have the real face-to-face contact #lrnchat
8:50:50 pm busynessgirl: Our office grapevine now travels through a lightning-fast network of 15 of us that all use gmail (and gchat) to spread gossip. #lrnchat
8:50:55 pm IzzyNeis: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q0 I learned that my 7 yo would trade both his legs for a lifetime supply of pudding. #momfail #lrnchat
8:50:56 pm kelly_smith01: @JaneBozarth Plus get to know IT's math. The math of the budget and of the bandwidth used by SoMe #lrnchat
8:50:59 pm roninchef: @gminks I am in IT and the SM buzzwords I hear are Office Communicator and Sharepoint. I don't flinch so much any more. #lrnchat
8:50:59 pm tmiket: @LM1 Yammer seems to be fairly common #lrnchat
8:51:04 pm Stephanie_Diaz: RT @LM1: What are some of the most common internal social networks? #lrnchat
8:51:07 pm kellygarber: RT @jsuzcampos: Q1) Internal social networks have always impacted performance. now, just admitting it and making it "strategic" #lrnchat
8:51:17 pm sillym0nkey: Q1 Internal networks cd become better than the current trng dept – that cd be why gatekprs worry #lrnchat
8:51:22 pm espnguyen: Q1) The social network is the foundation for the connectivity within the org to happen #lrnchat
8:51:23 pm kasey428: Q1 our ppl work in stove-piped divisions; communication channels will be opened up w/social networking. #lrnchat
8:51:32 pm jkunrein: late is better than never! astd chapter board meeting over, time for #lrnchat
8:51:32 pm LM1: Measuring performance enhancement or hindrance is hard. #lrnchat
8:51:35 pm jaycross: RT @joe_deegan: Q1) Im having a hell of time furthering Social media along. Im the only early adopter | Time for a new job #lrnchat
8:51:41 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q1. internal social networks are what keep orgs alive and relevant, facilitating & encouraging them is what distinguishes leaders #lrnchat
8:51:45 pm lrnchat: Think you're participating in #lrnchat but not seeing your posts show up in stream? Try logging in & out again. Some ppls tweets not showing
8:51:49 pm piercemr: Seems motivation to be involved will be huge – if SME's don't want to be involved SM doesn't help though #lrnchat
8:51:50 pm dpeter: RT @espnguyen: Q1) The social network is the foundation for the connectivity within the org to happen #lrnchat
8:51:53 pm tmiket: @joe_deegan: I feel your pain…I'm not only one but one of very few #lrnchat
8:52:06 pm chrisstjohn: I'm having a hard time furthering social media in the face of FBI saying it is large security danger. #lrnchat
8:52:07 pm jsuzcampos: Internal social networks will thrive without IT. I once saw quoted, that Web 2.0 is a social, not a technical, revolution. #lrnchat
8:52:17 pm Mary_a_Myers: we use msn for internal to communicate b/c i am remote…it's really the only thing and sometimes ppl don't like it. sad for me. #lrnchat
8:52:24 pm hjarche: internal social networks increase feedback loops in the org; without them, the org cannot learn & will fail to adapt to adversity #lrnchat
8:52:26 pm ajeanne: I feel the pain of early adopters who get looked at funny when suggesting using 2.0 anything. #lrnchat
8:52:31 pm joe_deegan: Q1) I'm just starting to see success with a wiki as a knowledge mgmt tool. #lrnchat
8:52:34 pm tonnet: What each Q means in the context of the #lrnchat meetup?
8:52:34 pm chrisstjohn: RT @jaycross: Oehlert at DevLearn #dl09. IT people are okay. They don't eat puppies. (I think the cards are still out on that) #lrnchat
8:52:35 pm LearningPutty: Q1) Internal social networks provide a rich knowledge pool, but also greater accessibility. someone always available 2 answer ur ? #lrnchat
8:52:38 pm sillym0nkey: Q1 internal networks cd allow for new leaders! Woohoo! #lrnchat
8:52:42 pm kelly_smith01: I think I like Yammer. Have yet to meet Yammer. But I kinda like their profile. I wonder if yammer would be a good match? #lrnchat
8:52:49 pm tmiket: @jsuzcampos SoMe thrive without or in spite of IT? 8-) #lrnchat
8:52:52 pm kathreenriel: @LM1 those who choose not work with internal social net. feel excluded from f 2 f conversations spawned from online dialogue #lrnchat
8:52:55 pm sahana2802: RT @KoreenOlbrish intnl SN are wht keep orgs alive & relevant, facilitating & encouraging them is wht distinguishes leaders #lrnchat
8:52:56 pm gminks: @piercemr has to be a reason for SMEs to participate (WIFM) #lrnchat
8:53:00 pm JaneBozarth: @sillym0nkey Right. What we tout as benefits is exactly what they fear. #lrnchat
8:53:07 pm MariaOD: @joe_deegan how about creating a SoMe position or changing or adding to a job description of a current PR role? #lrnchat
8:53:07 pm wlonline: Q1 There is some tentative dipping of toes in water #lrnchat
8:53:10 pm jsuzcampos: RT @hjarche: internal social networks increase feedback loops; without them, the org cannot learn & will fail to adapt to adversity #lrnchat
8:53:10 pm roninchef: My org actually has a fairly good sneaker-net. If you can do something word gets around and people show up at your door #lrnchat
8:53:12 pm nancyrubin: Q1) Do you find approved SN's and homegrown SN's? I see that on FB and LinkedIn…software links you together based on similarities #lrnchat
8:53:15 pm jkunrein: Q1) How can internal social networks impact the performance of the org? What can we do to further this along? #lrnchat
8:53:17 pm Dave_Ferguson: @chrisstjohn Yes, lots of gov't / security / high-risk orgs are (justifiably) concerned about exposure. #lrnchat
8:53:24 pm JffZllr: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can internal social networks impact the performance of the org? What can we do to further this along? #lrnchat
8:53:26 pm tmiket: @sillym0nkey Yes, leaders are not always the ones with the job title..de facto leaders #lrnchat
8:53:34 pm LM1: Are internal social networks receiving equal support? Is it generational? #lrnchat
8:53:38 pm JaneBozarth: RT @jsuzcampos: Internal social networks will thrive without IT… #lrnchat
8:53:46 pm BlakeGroup: @dpeter Yes. Ex: in past, employees preferred info from supervisors. Now, often less time face-to-face. Very challenging. #lrnchat
8:53:46 pm Mary_a_Myers: recently a blog was started but i sense ppl are timid; feel any posts may not be reflective of the corp culture maybe. #lrnchat
8:53:47 pm chrisstjohn: RT @ajeanne: I feel the pain of early adopters when suggesting using 2.0 anything. (How can you do 2.0 when there is no 1.0?) #lrnchat
8:53:57 pm denniscallahan: internal social networks also bring out the importance of f2f #lrnchat
8:54:00 pm gminks: its more than PR RT @MariaOD: @joe_deegan #lrnchat
8:54:02 pm marciamarcia: Anyone have a solution when some ppls # aren't showing up in search stream but others are? 2+ instances on #lrnchat now
8:54:03 pm LearningPutty: 2 Fix… adopt early RT @sillym0nkey: Q1 Internal networks cd become better than the current trng dept – cd be why gatekprs worry #lrnchat
8:54:12 pm jsuzcampos: RT @tmiket: SoMe thrive without or in spite of IT? 8-) <<good question! #lrnchat
8:54:15 pm MariaOD: We can't seem to get Yammer going either. Everybody is too busy working #lrnchat
8:54:15 pm Dave_Ferguson: Twitter fans (as example) often fail to realize what a bad reputation it has among people who've never used. Thanks, evening news. #lrnchat
8:54:16 pm kasey428: Social networking is actually gaining some traction @ work, but it was started by a groundswell from non-mgt. #lrnchat
8:54:18 pm dpeter: RT @LM1: Are internal social networks receiving equal support? Is it generational? – Interesting. #lrnchat
8:54:21 pm DavidAKnopf: Curious how social networks will thrive with no IT support. #lrnchat
8:54:22 pm espnguyen: Q1) As learning profesionals, we need to connect functional groups together to make the network thrive #lrnchat
8:54:22 pm busynessgirl: RT @ajeanne: I feel the pain of early adopters when suggesting using 2.0 anything. (How can you do 2.0 when there is no 1.0?) #lrnchat
8:54:23 pm roninchef: @kelly_smith01 You are invoking a dark god with the Y speak. The early #lrnchat sessions we were assaulted by them #lrnchat
8:54:23 pm kelly_smith01: MUST work with IT. They control the universe and have some good ideas of their own. #lrnchat
8:54:25 pm JaneBozarth: My org is trying, and we're state govt. Baby steps, but new Governor and other upper mgmt is moving forward #lrnchat
8:54:27 pm jaycross: The word "social" is superfluous, is it not? Work is social. Learning is social. Hell, people are social. #lrnchat
8:54:34 pm jkunrein: saw a great presentation a few weeks ago from cerner with great examples of how uCern connects ppl inside w/ each other & customers #lrnchat
8:54:44 pm ajeanne: Q1) If there's something that everybody should know about right now… or a subset of folks… can post it immediately & get thru. #lrnchat
8:54:46 pm gminks: RT @hjarche: internal social networks increase feedback loops; without them, the org cannot learn & will fail to adapt to adversity #lrnchat
8:54:49 pm denniscallahan: [Reply] [Retweet] [User Control] [Favorite] @ JaneBozarth @jsuzcampos: Internal social networks DO thrive without IT… #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:54:52 pm cindyhugg: Agreed! RT @Dave_Ferguson: most compelling use of social network is: a respected colleague gets stuff done using it… #lrnchat
8:54:53 pm tmiket: Internal ntwks help you find who the right person IS to have the F2F with in the first place #lrnchat
8:54:55 pm gminks: RT @jaycross: The word "social" is superfluous, is it not? Work is social. Learning is social. Hell, people are social. #lrnchat
8:54:56 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @jaycross: The word "social" is superfluous, is it not? Work is social. Learning is social. Hell, people are social. #lrnchat
8:55:20 pm JaneBozarth: @DavidAKnopf They don't need IT support — #lrnchat
8:55:20 pm chrisstjohn: Still like Ellen Wagner's supposed quote at dl09: "SM is like sex. If you're not doing it, you're not getting it." #lrnchat
8:55:21 pm jaycross: RT @DavidAKnopf: Curious how social networks will thrive with no IT support. | Same as the internet, no? #lrnchat
8:55:27 pm minutebio: RT @kelly_smith01: MUST work with IT. They control the univ& have some good ideas of their own – helps when they benefit too #lrnchat
8:55:38 pm willswords: Q1) Internal Social Networks help people find where their questions can be answered. Making them more visible is a catalyst. #lrnchat
8:55:41 pm joe_deegan: @MariaOD Web content mgr is using Twitter as an advertising/branding tool but I am twisting arms to use SoMe for learning #lrnchat
8:55:42 pm LearningPutty: Best quote of #learntrends "to start – just start." That's the answer. Start small with your own group – wiki, blog, twitter, etc #lrnchat
8:55:43 pm StephanieDaul: Leadership has alot to do with internal networks. #lrnchat
8:55:44 pm gwoodill: Q1 Is "performance of the org" a worthy goal? What if org needs radical change? What if social media punches holes in the org? #lrnchat
8:55:45 pm tonya_simmons: Q0 – I just learned that I'm MUCH too tired to keep up with answers to Q1 – I'll look forward to the transcript, nite all #lrnchat
8:55:49 pm sahana2802: RT @ jaycross The word "social" is superfluous, is it not? Work is social. Learning is social. Ppl are social. #lrnchat
8:56:00 pm tonnet: RT @gminks: RT @jaycross: The word "social" is superfluous, is it not? Work is social. Learning is social. Hell, people are social. #lrnchat
8:56:06 pm ajeanne: RT @jaycross: The word "social" is superfluous, is it not? Work is social. Learning is social. Hell, people are social. #lrnchat
8:56:08 pm dpeter: Hmm, social network, social media, social organization – social life, social work. Where do you draw the line? #lrnchat
8:56:09 pm kasey428: @kelly_smith01 IT has been a huge roadblock. Working w/them rather than against them to implement. We already have Yammer. #lrnchat
8:56:12 pm Mary_a_Myers: i still get smirks when i mention some tools like twitter @ work but @moehlert luckily gave me some ways to deal with this! #lrnchat
8:56:14 pm jaycross: iPhones route around IT. #lrnchat
8:56:22 pm tmiket: @minutebio Depends on your IT dept…some more open/helpful than others no? #lrnchat
8:56:25 pm NahumG: RT @moehlert: RT @lrnchat: If you participate in #lrnchat and @marciamarcia hasn't yet added you to http://sn.im/lrnchat-list pls @ or D …
8:56:28 pm DavidAKnopf: @jaycross But there was an infrastructure for the net .. #lrnchat
8:56:34 pm jkunrein: uCern example reminded me of how people connect when they both smoke, or play on a company team. connexions are difficult otherwise #lrnchat
8:56:35 pm ValerieRoberts: Q1 Social Networks can help with collaboration – people can find each other easier #lrnchat
8:56:39 pm nancyrubin: Q1) Lead by example – show others what can be done with tools you want to use in org #lrnchat
8:56:41 pm kasey428: RT @dpeter: Hmm, social network, social media, social organization – social life, social work. Where do you draw the line? #lrnchat
8:56:41 pm sillym0nkey: Q1 the most exciting thing about soc med is that we may hear from the quiet for the 1st time #lrnchat
8:56:41 pm kellygarber: Q1 internal SN creates unplanned collaboration and orgs can encourage that by using SN as orientation tool. #lrnchat
8:56:50 pm kathreenriel: @tmiket great question do social networks amplify unrecognized leaders #lrnchat
8:56:53 pm JaneBozarth: @sahana2802 @jaycross "social" also conjures up wrong images. McAfee says it makes CLevel think "Woodstock" #lrnchat
8:56:59 pm jadekaz: @Mary_a_Myers the smirks are the worst #lrnchat
8:57:03 pm dpeter: RT @tmiket: @minutebio Depends on your IT dept…some more open/helpful than others no? (Loaded question?!) #lrnchat
8:57:05 pm tmiket: Good article in WSJ other day about having better tech at home than at work. #lrnchat
8:57:06 pm cindyhugg: Q1 social networks in orgs allow for working in & around 'white space' of org charts. breaks down barriers & helps productivity. #lrnchat
8:57:12 pm joe_deegan: RT @chrisstjohn: Still like Ellen Wagners supposed quote at dl09: "SM is like sex. If youre not doing it, youre not getting it." #lrnchat
8:57:12 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @sillym0nkey: Q1 the most exciting thing about soc med is that we may hear from the quiet for the 1st time #lrnchat
8:57:16 pm ajeanne: RT @ValerieRoberts: Q1 Social Networks can help with collaboration – people can find each other easier #lrnchat
8:57:22 pm allonsdanser: @ChristyATucker Thanks for turning me on to #lrnchat ! Awesome group of ID twitterers!
8:57:24 pm bschlenker: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q1 internal social networks keep orgs alive & relevant, facilitating & encouraging them distinguishes leaders #lrnchat
8:57:27 pm kasey428: RT @sillym0nkey: Q1 the most exciting thing about soc med is that we may hear from the quiet for the 1st time #lrnchat
8:57:28 pm JaneBozarth: I don't need no IT. I have an iPhone. Circumvent the Man. #lrnchat
8:57:31 pm minutebio: RT @tmiket: @minutebio Depends on your IT dept…some more open/helpful than others no? True. Need to get "inside" connection #lrnchat
8:57:32 pm gminks: this is a joke right? RT @JaneBozarth: @DavidAKnopf They dont need IT support — #lrnchat
8:57:36 pm Dave_Ferguson: Q1: seek examples of success in orgs similar to yours (cos. in your field) — e.g., blog policies, internal wikis. #lrnchat
8:57:41 pm LearningPutty: Agreed. Social media is a tool – not new philosophy RT @jaycross: "Social" is superfluous… Work, Learning, and People are social #lrnchat
8:58:03 pm JaneBozarth: @allonsdanser and we're glad you're here! #lrnchat
8:58:04 pm jkunrein: i sympathize… will look this up RT @tmiket: Good article in WSJ other day about having better tech at home than at work. #lrnchat
8:58:05 pm ValerieRoberts: RT @chrisstjohn: Next version of Outlook 2010 will auto display Twitter/FB personal info. http://bit.ly/uSSK8 #lrnchat
8:58:09 pm Mary_a_Myers: @jadekaz i know! but some they will see the error in their ways ;) #lrnchat
8:58:09 pm tmiket: @minutebio Yes inside and underground 8-) #lrnchat
8:58:18 pm dpeter: Q1 Social networks? PLN? PLC? PLE? Collaboratory? How about COMMUNITY? #lrnchat
8:58:20 pm Dave_Ferguson: Yes, in general, leave out "social," any x.0, and above all SoMe. Don't let the terms be the enemy of the grasp. #lrnchat
8:58:22 pm espnguyen: Q1) Social networks break down silos across functions and regions. #lrnchat
8:58:22 pm sahana2802: An organization has to be culturally open to both positive and negative feedback to allow SN to officially flourish within…#lrnchat
8:58:26 pm ajeanne: Q1) Tell them if they want to know what's going on, they'll embrace 2.0. (I am not fond of the "social media" term.) #lrnchat
8:58:27 pm BlakeGroup: Q1 SNs are one of the only ways to reach across silos in orgs. And not all can. #lrnchat
8:58:37 pm Mary_a_Myers: I like your style! RT @JaneBozarth: I dont need no IT. I have an iPhone. Circumvent the Man. #lrnchat
8:58:40 pm JaneBozarth: It's bad enough to have a paradigm without having to shift it, too. #lrnchat
8:58:40 pm DavidAKnopf: @JaneBozarth I don't need no IT either – the 15K people I work with, on the other hand … #lrnchat
8:58:51 pm chrisstjohn: @kasey428 Its the quiet ones in the back that need watching. #lrnchat
8:58:53 pm sillym0nkey: RT JaneBozarth: @sahana2802 @jaycross "social" conjures wrong images. "Woodstock" Maybe that is the right image, ha! #lrnchat
8:58:54 pm kasey428: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Q1: seek examples of success in orgs similar to yours (cos. in your field) e.g., blog policies, internal wikis. #lrnchat
8:58:57 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @Mary_a_Myers: @jadekaz i know! but some DAY they will see the error in their ways ;) #lrnchat
8:58:58 pm hjarche: people are only open with others they know/trust; no social networks then no learning between people #lrnchat
8:58:58 pm jkunrein: RT @BlakeGroup: Q1 SNs are one of the only ways to reach across silos in orgs. And not all can. #lrnchat
8:59:05 pm denniscallahan: @ LearningPutty – agree. Social tools can also be anti social. Depends on your thinking & participation #lrnchat
8:59:08 pm tmiket: @jkunrein WSJ article http://bit.ly/1TvsAn #lrnchat
8:59:12 pm dpeter: RT @JaneBozarth: Its bad enough to have a paradigm without having to shift it, too. #lrnchat
8:59:22 pm JaneBozarth: @sillym0nkey Ha! #lrnchat
8:59:23 pm kelly_smith01: RT @espnguyen: Q1) Social networks break down silos across functions and regions. #lrnchat
8:59:26 pm busynessgirl: If you move much faster than your IT support, it's not that we don't need it, just not useful. @gminks #lrnchat
8:59:28 pm ajeanne: Too funny! RT @JaneBozarth: Its bad enough to have a paradigm without having to shift it, too. #lrnchat
8:59:28 pm espnguyen: Q1) In our Yammer network, sharing happens regardless of role, location, or job title. Communication is beautiful and transparent #lrnchat
8:59:31 pm KoreenOlbrish: so get rid of social. call them communication tools. oh, and its not a "game"…its "competitive learning environment" #lrnchat
8:59:40 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @hjarche: people are only open with others they know/trust; no social networks then no learning between people #lrnchat
8:59:41 pm pedepede2: Q1) question with question: are social networks 'open' to others or kept to organisation, eg yammer – balance bet open and private? #lrnchat
8:59:43 pm tonnet: RT @hjarche: people are only open with others they know/trust; no social networks then no learning between people #lrnchat
8:59:53 pm jkunrein: thanks! RT @tmiket: @jkunrein WSJ article http://bit.ly/1TvsAn #lrnchat
8:59:55 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: Its bad enough to have a paradigm without having to shift it, too. #lrnchat
9:00:00 pm gminks: why isn't IT considered to be part of the internal social network? #lrnchat
9:00:01 pm cindyhugg: RT @sillym0nkey: Q1 internal networks cd allow for new leaders! #lrnchat <= yes. some might be fearful of this, but its a good thing!
9:00:02 pm sillym0nkey: Q1 what if everyone wanted to pile into the learning moshpit! like woodstock! then we have done our job #lrnchat
9:00:08 pm Dave_Ferguson: @sillym0nkey yeah, but how many are old enough to possibly have GONE to Woodstock? (Those who did get AARP junk mail now.) #lrnchat
9:00:15 pm Mary_a_Myers: i agree with @hjarche the theme of trust is huge…i guess for most interactions w/ppl really #lrnchat
9:00:23 pm lrnchat: RT @moehlert: #lrnchat Lemme just say to all the folks who may be joining becuz I talked about this endlessly at #dl09 ; Welcome!!
9:00:24 pm bschlenker: Q1) help employees get past the newness – lrng curve – once they're in they'll do most of the rest #lrnchat
9:00:27 pm JaneBozarth: RT @KoreenOlbrish: get rid of social. call them communication tools. oh, and its not a "game"but "competitive learning environment" #lrnchat
9:00:33 pm kellygarber: Q1 SN was "bad" and hidden by users for so long-need to market the message that SN is okay and desired. #lrnchat
9:00:35 pm dpeter: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @espnguyen: Q1) Social networks break down silos across functions and regions. – They build bridges also #lrnchat
9:00:37 pm chrisstjohn: In a heavily silo'd group, SN is the devil's brew, along with sharing and any thought of community. #lrnchat
9:00:44 pm willswords: Social networks already exist without IT. IT just helps make them more visible and their conversations archivable. #lrnchat
9:00:45 pm gminks: RT @hjarche: people are only open with others they know/trust; no social networks then no learning between people #lrnchat
9:00:48 pm lrnchat: We're going to start RTing those who aren't showing up in #lrnchat stream here.
9:00:53 pm hjarche: @kelly_smith01 and without a clutch, at that #lrnchat
9:00:54 pm JaneBozarth: I'd like that RT @sillym0nkey:what if everyone wanted to pile into the learning moshpit! like woodstock! then we have done our job #lrnchat
9:00:56 pm SueSchnorr: RT @KoreenOlbrish: get rid of social. call them communication tools. not a "game"its "competitive learning environment" #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:00:58 pm kelly_smith01: Collaboration tools instead of social media #lrnchat
9:01:02 pm Dave_Ferguson: @pedepede2 I think the balance is essential, but how you achieve it varies. Some orgs: yammer, not twitter. Others: use your head. #lrnchat
9:01:05 pm jaycross: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @sillym0nkey yeah, but how many are old enough to possibly have GONE to Woodstock? Me.me.me #lrnchat
9:01:17 pm dpeter: RT @chrisstjohn: In a heavily silod group, SN is the devils brew, along with sharing and any thought of community. #lrnchat
9:01:18 pm JaneBozarth: RT @chrisstjohn: In a heavily silod group, SN is the devils brew, along with sharing and any thought of community. #lrnchat
9:01:21 pm bschlenker: RT @kasey428: Social networking is actually gaining some traction @ work, but it was started by a groundswell from non-mgt. #lrnchat
9:01:23 pm kasey428: My co. has an active forum for IDs and CDs. Am pushing social tools at the meetings. #lrnchat
9:01:31 pm Mary_a_Myers: @bschlenker this is key. b/c once they get a taste…they see the power and benefit. #lrnchat
9:01:45 pm ajeanne: 'Xactly: RT @kelly_smith01: Collaboration tools instead of social media #lrnchat
9:01:47 pm espnguyen: Q1) Should we start calling it "collaborative networks" vs. "social networks" to take a cue from @amcafee? #lrnchat
9:01:59 pm nancyrubin: Q1) Lots of IT apps (particularly help desk) have Web2.0 features today – IT people probably don't label them as collaborative #lrnchat
9:02:13 pm wlonline: RT @bschlenker: @kasey428: Soc networking actually gaining some traction @ work, but it was started by a groundswell from non-mgt #lrnchat
9:02:19 pm kasey428: @jaycross I was too young, but I do remember…does that count? #lrnchat
9:02:22 pm LearningPutty: My vote for next #lrnchat: What is a more appropriate term than "social learning" to describe what we are discussing? #lrnchat
9:02:24 pm Dave_Ferguson: @jaycross Me, too, but for most in workplace, Woodstock might as well have been First Manassas #lrnchat
9:02:24 pm bschlenker: RT @MariaOD: We can't seem to get Yammer going either. Everybody is too busy working #lrnchat << someday that will BE working ;-)
9:02:26 pm gminks: Since we've already invoked it, we don't have yammer implemented behind the firewall, so its mostly used for fluffy stuff #lrnchat
9:02:33 pm tmiket: Best ones start this way @kasey428: gaining some traction @ work, but it was started by a groundswell from non-mgt. #lrnchat
9:02:34 pm DavidAKnopf: @espnguyen Yes! "collaborative network" a big improvement over SN, when talking to the PHBs. #lrnchat
9:02:36 pm roninchef: @JaneBozarth I think @sillym0nkey may have to go on my lrnarchist list. Well met! #lrnchat
9:02:48 pm JaneBozarth: Did I see the phrase "rainbows and unicorns" somewhere today? Is that better than "social". Maybe not… #lrnchat
9:02:50 pm kathreenriel: Social media doesn't replace relationship building RT@Mary_a_Myers i agree with @hjarche the theme of trust is huge.. #lrnchat
9:02:51 pm joe_deegan: Here's the gory details of my attempt at social medial implementation http://bit.ly/ElVdm #lrnchat
9:03:00 pm sillym0nkey: RT @chrisstjohn: In a heavily silod group, SN is the devils brew, . i love twhat that conjurs up – devils brew #lrnchat
9:03:02 pm jennystaley: RT @hjarche: people are only open with others they know/trust; no social networks then no learning between people #lrnchat
9:03:09 pm LM1: We had an internal posting place for new information to be posted, but it had an outdated search engine – could not find anything #lrnchat
9:03:16 pm JaneBozarth: Like this RT @espnguyen: Q1) Should we start calling it "collaborative networks" vs. "social networks" to take a cue from @amcafee? #lrnchat
9:03:18 pm Dave_Ferguson: @espnguyen Really, call the stuff things that the people listening will be comfy with. (Suggestion: avoid "affordance enablers.") #lrnchat
9:03:18 pm jaycross: RT @kasey428: @jaycross I was too young, but I do remember… that count? | Sure. The people who were there don't really remember #lrnchat
9:03:24 pm nancyrubin: Lots of orgs struggling with how to implement SNS on enterprise level – want to host internally but not sure how (yet) #lrnchat
9:03:31 pm sahana2802: RT @moehlert #lrnchat Just have to say -SoMe can move us away from subject-matter experts and toward subject-matter networks.
9:03:33 pm kelly_smith01: I knew some folks in the oil industry who had a form of social media more than 20 years ago for international collaboration #lrnchat
9:03:40 pm LM1: Anyone know of any studies that have been done on the impact of internal social networks? #lrnchat
9:03:40 pm kasey428: @espnguyen Collaborative would be received better by mgt. Social anything is just too…social. #lrnchat
9:03:43 pm lrnchat: RT @moehlert: #lrnchat Just have to say -SoMe can move us away from subject-matter experts and toward subject-matter networks ;-)
9:03:44 pm hjarche: @espnguyen I would prefer 'cooperative' over 'collaborative' networks – collab means a common obj, which is not always the case #lrnchat
9:03:52 pm JaneBozarth: @roninchef Agreed. @sillym0nkey would fit right in #lrnchat
9:03:54 pm willswords: One thing that makes a social network good is when it is easy to find. #lrnchat
9:04:05 pm chrisstjohn: @moehlert But an subj matter net doesnt build courseware or sit on aa design committee. #lrnchat
9:04:12 pm ldanakos: @gminks @hjarche I disagree to a point as I've networked and learned from social media contacts I don't know nor ever met #lrnchat
9:04:16 pm Dave_Ferguson: @kathreenriel Agree — many I trust via Twitter I got to know first thru blogs–more connections w/ ideas. #lrnchat
9:04:22 pm bschlenker: RT @jaycross: The word "social" is superfluous, is it not? Work is social. Learning is social. Hell, people are social. #lrnchat
9:04:23 pm badsquare: Q – What is the ROI for social learning networks? A – Who cares! What is the ROI for traditional structured learning? #lrnchat
9:04:30 pm tmiket: @kasey428 ..and we can't have any socializing at work now can we? #lrnchat
9:04:34 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @moehlert: Just have to say -SoMe can move us away from subject-matter experts and toward subject-matter networks ;-) #lrnchat
9:04:34 pm ajeanne: @Dave_Ferguson Oh, time to start drinking, Mr. Affordance Monitor! :) ) #lrnchat
9:04:39 pm Mary_a_Myers: @JaneBozarth i have list envy. #lrnchat
9:04:42 pm kelly_smith01: Thats my term of the week “subject matter network” #lrnchat
9:04:48 pm marigo: internal social networks increase feedback loops in the org; without them, the org cannot learn & will fail to adapt #lrnchat (via @hjarche)
9:04:48 pm joe_deegan: I just recently won the battle of getting Twitter unblocked from IT. But I’m a special case. Everyone else is screwed. #lrnchat
9:04:50 pm ThomasStone: Tom Stone, from Element K in Rochester NY, joining #lrnchat a bit late tonight. Hi Jay, Jane B., Mary M., Harold, Dave F., and all!
9:04:51 pm LM1: Internal social networks could be costly bcuz companies may need to perform PC & software updates #lrnchat
9:04:52 pm espnguyen: @hjarche To me ‘collaborative’ implies problem solving. ??? #lrnchat
9:04:53 pm dpeter: RT @lrnchat: RT @moehlert: Just have to say -SoMe can move us away from subject-matter experts and toward subject-matter networks #lrnchat
9:04:54 pm denniscallahan: @hjarche: agree. Trust is huge and affects much of work…not just learning (realize u were not suggesting that) #lrnchat
9:04:56 pm jaycross: Folks, Jesus had a social network. This is not new. #lrnchat
9:04:57 pm kathreenriel: Each curve is different how do u address all the individual needs?@bschlenker Q1) help employees get past the newness – lrng curve #lrnchat
9:04:59 pm kasey428: @moehlert, didn’t you coin that phrase last week? subject matter networks… #lrnchat
9:05:18 pm chrisstjohn: I met a large group of govt lawyers that have an active social network aka Community of Practice. Works well. #lrnchat
9:05:24 pm Mary_a_Myers: @ldanakos this happens to me all the time too, but i often how nice it would be to meet f2f…the magic that could happen :) #lrnchat
9:05:32 pm LM1: When we are talking about internal social networks are we mostly referring to blogs and databases? Or chat rooms as well? #lrnchat
9:05:33 pm tmiket: @badsquare Saw good saying..somethings don’t need ROI aka what’s the ROI of wearing pants? You should just do it! #lrnchat
9:05:43 pm KoreenOlbrish: @kasey428 @moehlert just quoted himself ;) #lrnchat
9:05:44 pm jaycross: I store my knowledge in my network. #lrnchat
9:05:48 pm gminks: @kasey428 no SME hating tonight :) (hi!!) #lrnchat
9:05:48 pm kasey428: @tmiket Socializing must be kept to a minimum, but we can collaborate all we want. #lrnchat
9:05:52 pm Mary_a_Myers: @ThomasStone hello! #lrnchat
9:05:52 pm joe_deegan: RT @jaycross: Folks, Jesus had a social network. This is not new. #lrnchat
9:05:59 pm kelly_smith01: Jesus has the longest running social network #lrnchat
9:06:00 pm kathreenriel: tell us more @chrisstjohn In a heavily silo’d group, SN is the devil’s brew, along with sharing and any thought of community. #lrnchat
9:06:00 pm jenniswenson: RT @moehlert: #lrnchat Just have to say -SoMe can move us away from subject-matter experts and toward subject-matter networks ;-)
9:06:18 pm ajeanne: Let’s speed up and aggregate communications… Twitter is amazing if you want to follow a breaking news story, for example. #lrnchat
9:06:22 pm lrnchat: RT @moehlert: Nooo!!!! The ROI Demon has appeared!!! And Lo! BF Skinner rides atop the scaly beast! (Too much?) #lrnchat
9:06:31 pm hjarche: @espnguyen yes, but not always solving probs in social networks, sometimes just sharing stuff http://is.gd/4ZfUP #lrnchat
9:06:34 pm badsquare: Looking too! RT @LM1 Anyone know of any studies that have been done on the impact of internal social networks? #lrnchat
9:06:38 pm CathyLAnderson: RT @kasey428: @moehlert, didn’t you coin that phrase last week? subject matter networks… #lrnchat I like this!
9:06:43 pm tmiket: RT @joe_deegan: RT @jaycross: Folks, Jesus had a social network. This is not new. #lrnchat
9:06:49 pm chrisstjohn: Firmly convinced that ROI is dead and replaced by VALUE added networks (VOI). #lrnchat
9:06:51 pm espnguyen: @LM1 To me the network is the connection people have made with one another. The network also manages those connections. #lrnchat
9:06:56 pm ThomasStone: @Mary_a_Myers Re: smirks, my advice is regularly note all the stuff you learn from Twitter, that the smirkers are missing out on! #lrnchat
9:06:58 pm Dave_Ferguson: @tmiket ROI of wearing pants: % of interviews followed by callbacks. #lrnchat
9:06:59 pm KoreenOlbrish: why is everyone afraid of words? you either get “it” or you don’t. if an exec doesn’t get it, chances are the org will suffer #lrnchat
9:07:02 pm gminks: drink to ROI #lrnchat
9:07:06 pm LM1: Senior Mgmt wants to know the benefits of it to offset the potential costs for upgrades #lrnchat
9:07:13 pm sillym0nkey: RT hjarche: @espnguyen ‘cooperative’ over ‘collaborative’ networks – collab =a common obj, not always case So True! #lrnchat
9:07:18 pm lrnchat: Q2) How can internal SNs impact individual performance? What can individuals and org practices do to ensure this? #lrnchat
9:07:21 pm BlakeGroup: Before SM tools, anything network-based was owned by IT. Now, anyone can play. Great opps for internal comm. #lrnchat
9:07:22 pm nancyrubin: Q1) Focus on apps that allow for collaboration on work product – Sharepoint – (don’t boo), Zoho (Google app), collab doc editing #lrnchat
9:07:24 pm JaneBozarth: Oh no not ROI… #lrnchat
9:07:28 pm kasey428: RT @chrisstjohn: Firmly convinced that ROI is dead and replaced by VALUE added networks (VOI). #lrnchat
9:07:40 pm jaycross: RT @chrisstjohn: Firmly convinced that ROI is dead and replaced by VALUE added networks (VOI). YES #lrnchat
9:07:43 pm tmiket: @Dave_Ferguson Call backs or calls to the police? 8) #lrnchat
9:07:43 pm JaneBozarth: Ok everyone ROI is here. Let’s have a toast to him. #lrnchat
9:07:52 pm Dave_Ferguson: @kasey428 And Moses had STANDARDS. #lrnchat
9:07:54 pm krinhoh: @hjarche “Collaborative” implies common purpose and diversity of thought. Sometimes it can go long way without problem solving. #lrnchat
9:07:54 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can internal SNs impact individual performance? What can individuals and org practices do to ensure this? #lrnchat
9:07:56 pm busynessgirl: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can internal SNs impact individual performance? What can individuals and org practices do to ensure this? #lrnchat
9:07:57 pm Mary_a_Myers: @hjarche (didn’t mean to mess with your tweet; it just made me think as trust as a general theme of positive interaction) #lrnchat
9:08:01 pm jaycross: Q2 Well, without a network, you are toast. #lrnchat
9:08:02 pm LM1: @kasey428 that makes sense #lrnchat
9:08:03 pm espnguyen: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can internal SNs impact individual performance? What can individuals and org practices do to ensure this? #lrnchat
9:08:05 pm JaneBozarth: Wait let me get my slide rule #lrnchat
9:08:06 pm hjarche: “blog” went mainstream, in spite of it being a really weird term #lrnchat
9:08:11 pm cindyhugg: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can internal SNs impact individual performance? What can individuals and org practices do to ensure this? #lrnchat
9:08:13 pm lrnchat: RT @moehlert: @LM1 Anybody know the “wind turbine” story from #dl09? :-) #lrnchat
9:08:15 pm sillym0nkey: RT kasey428: RT @chrisstjohn: Firmly convinced that ROI is dead and replaced by VALUE added networks (VOI).Let’s hope so! #lrnchat
9:08:15 pm jaycross: Not that kind of toast #lrnchat
9:08:21 pm nancyrubin: Social Media Revolution – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIFYPQjYhv8&feature=player_embedded #lrnchat
9:08:25 pm BlakeGroup: ROI = Return on Influence, Information. Not just Investment anymore. #lrnchat
9:08:36 pm dpeter: Q2) How can internal SNs impact individual performance? – Growth, development, connection, collaboration, personal worth #lrnchat
9:08:38 pm gminks: Q2 I think you have to determine performance measures before trying to use a SN as the intervention. (semester is almost over!!) #lrnchat
9:08:48 pm wlonline: RT @EDUCAUSEreview: What are your favorite Twitter lists for edtech? #lrnchat
9:08:49 pm LearningPutty: We know that the data for lrning outcomes is “lacking” so I would suggest looking at marketing data for SoMe outcomes… #lrnchat
9:08:50 pm jkunrein: webinar RT @hjarche: “blog” went mainstream, in spite of it being a really weird term #lrnchat
9:08:50 pm JaneBozarth: @jaycross @chrisstjohn Not only is ROI dead, he never existed in the first place. #lrnchat
9:08:52 pm Mary_a_Myers: @ThomasStone exactly and @moehlert suggested a focus on the dynamic rather than tools; what problems are solved, or perf nudged. #lrnchat
9:09:00 pm jaycross: the “wind turbine” story . I retold it today at #learntrends #lrnchat
9:09:06 pm krinhoh: If there is no real investment in learning , there can be no ROI. Social is often without investment #lrnchat
9:09:07 pm kasey428: RT @BlakeGroup: ROI = Return on Influence, Information. Not just Investment anymore. #lrnchat
9:09:10 pm ajeanne: Q2) Can ask for info about something…. most obvious individual performance enhancer. #lrnchat
9:09:13 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: Wait let me get my slide rule #lrnchat
9:09:28 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can internal SNs impact individual performance? What can individuals and org practices do to ensure this? #lrnchat
9:09:32 pm busynessgirl: Q2 I think it’s mixed. A social learning network can improve performance, a social SOCIAL network can impede (think students+FB). #lrnchat
9:09:33 pm DavidAKnopf: Q2) Individuals can participate, orgs can encourage/reward participation. #lrnchat
9:09:43 pm roninchef: Q2 The learner can call out their own knowledge gap and the network will respond to that call. #lrnchat
9:09:45 pm nancyrubin: Q2) Easier to keep track of personal achievements accomplishments – build a PLN and showcase portfolio #lrnchat
9:09:48 pm hjarche: @Mary_a_Myers I agree on foundational nature of trust – it’s in the defn of wirearchy http://is.gd/4Zg38 #lrnchat
9:09:52 pm sillym0nkey: Q2) How can internal SNs can allow for individual performance. They can get credit for thier good ideas, etc. #lrnchat
9:09:54 pm minutebio: Participants can reflect on own KSAs and inspire / instruct others via SN. #lrnchat
9:09:59 pm espnguyen: Q2) SNs are like the crowd of people behind the guy in the Verizon commercial. They support and empower. #lrnchat
9:10:01 pm badsquare: RT @krinhoh If there is no real investment in learning , there can be no ROI. Social is often without investment #lrnchat
9:10:05 pm JaneBozarth: Q2 Give workers the TIME they need for this! It doesn’t happen on a punch-clock #lrnchat
9:10:05 pm cindyhugg: RT @BlakeGroup: ROI = Return on Influence, Information. Not just Investment anymore. #lrnchat <= I like this, think its important.
9:10:11 pm BlakeGroup: Q2 SNs can be used to deliver news/events/info/training/benefits/etc. …with feedback!! #lrnchat
9:10:12 pm willswords: Q1) to further this along people need one place to go for social networking in the organization, not a jambalaya of websites #lrnchat
9:10:21 pm lrnchat: RT @moehlert: @JaneBozarth So ROI and ADDIE walk into this bar…. #lrnchat
9:10:24 pm bschlenker: @kathreenriel addressing personal needs- no longer our responsibility-community steps up via altruism- it's amazing 2see it happen #lrnchat
9:10:28 pm chrisstjohn: I did a study for Johns Hopkins – looked at 133 med schools. The test score diff between those SME users & those who didnt was 2%. #lrnchat
9:10:29 pm LearningPutty: Q2) How can SoMe impact employees? One of the major impacts is the constant feedback opportunities social networks provide #lrnchat
9:10:33 pm JaneBozarth: Q2 Let workers do what they need to do– don't overmanage/direct/control. Oh there I go again… #lrnchat
9:10:42 pm Dave_Ferguson: @roninchef I do think you can only call so many gaps before people start wondering why you have the job you do. #lrnchat
9:10:43 pm espnguyen: Have to give credit to @moehlert for the Verizon analogy. Something about how a person brings their whole network to a job #lrnchat
9:10:45 pm krinhoh: much better RT @BlakeGroup: ROI = Return on Influence, Information. Not just Investment anymore. #lrnchat
9:10:48 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @badsquare: RT @krinhoh If there is no real investment in learning , there can be no ROI. Social is often without investment #lrnchat
9:10:49 pm ThomasStone: Perhaps "social" not best word to convince C-suite of value, but we need a word to diff. what IBM does internally, and most don't! #lrnchat
9:10:51 pm gminks: @badsquare Social is never w/o investment… #lrnchat
9:11:03 pm ldanakos: @Mary_a_Myers it's always nice to be able to meet as you can get more interaction #lrnchat
9:11:08 pm dpeter: Q2) What can individuals and org practices do to ensure this? Provide the tools, the support, the environment and the need for use #lrnchat
9:11:10 pm JaneBozarth: Q2 TRUST the workers w/ time, information, getting what they need. Trust. Oh now I've said it. Oh dear. #lrnchat
9:11:10 pm ajeanne: Q2) If you run into a good article or blog, you can post it if will be of help to others in your organization (obvious, again) #lrnchat
9:11:13 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) SME (SMN) relationships, mentor relationships, follow-up to training, maybe follow up questions of learners via SoMe #lrnchat
9:11:17 pm krinhoh: understd how much time it takes RT @JaneBozarth: Q2 Give workers the TIME they need for this! It doesn't happen on a punch-clock #lrnchat
9:11:18 pm KristiBroom: Q2 it's easy for orgs to look at the negative impacts to productivity w/out recognizing the positive impacts #lrnchat
9:11:25 pm sillym0nkey: RT JaneBozarth: Q2 Let workers do what they need to do– don't overmanage/direct/control. Oh there I go again…Love that! #lrnchat
9:11:25 pm busynessgirl: Easier to participate in social networks from a job that already has flexible hours (i.e. academia) @JaneBozarth #lrnchat
9:11:27 pm Dave_Ferguson: @JaneBozarth A hidden evil in most org online learning: you cram it in around your "real" job. Or outside. #lrnchat
9:11:42 pm Steli: RT @jaycross: I store my knowledge in my network. #lrnchat
9:11:50 pm JaneBozarth: Good @chrisstjohn Say more about the study? #lrnchat
9:11:51 pm minutebio: SMEs can share info directly with staff without those pesky e-learning designers in the way…oops, nevermind #lrnchat
9:11:52 pm Steli: RT @jaycross: Folks, Jesus had a social network. This is not new. #lrnchat
9:11:59 pm nancyrubin: Portals can be electronic doorway to an org today if well managed (think wiki gardner). Info needs to be relevant and timely. #lrnchat
9:12:04 pm JaneBozarth: @Dave_Ferguson That's what I used to do. Better now. #lrnchat
9:12:05 pm hjarche: FWIW, I've thought long & hard on collaboration, but it's "cooperation" that happens in networks http://is.gd/4ZfUP #lrnchat
9:12:06 pm krinhoh: THk YOU RT @JaneBozarth: Q2 TRUST the workers w/ time, information, getting what they need. Trust. Oh now I've said it. Oh dear. #lrnchat
9:12:08 pm ValerieRoberts: RT @espnguyen: Q2) SNs are like the crowd of people behind the guy in the Verizon commercial. They support and empower. #lrnchat
9:12:09 pm espnguyen: Q2) What can individuals and org practices do to ensure this? TRUST. #lrnchat
9:12:09 pm sahana2802: RT @Dave_Ferguson @JaneBozarth A hidden evil in most org online learning: you cram it in around your "real" job. Or outside. #lrnchat
9:12:11 pm dpeter: Q2) Trust? or Empower? Engage? Enrich? #lrnchat
9:12:21 pm kellygarber: Q2 – SN can make employees that use it well look like a rock star b/c they will get more answers faster than others. #lrnchat
9:12:30 pm marciamarcia: RT @krinhoh: If there is no real investment in learning, there can be no ROI. Social is often without investment #lrnchat
9:12:34 pm bacigalupe: @espnguyen besides potential empowerment, a big crowd behind could also immobilize #lrnchat
9:12:38 pm chrisstjohn: But feedback opportunities mean exposure. Silo'd organizations resist sharing that they think equates to loss of control. #lrnchat
9:12:51 pm tmiket: @minutebio If it was easy enough we certainly wouldn't need as many right? #lrnchat
9:12:51 pm wlonline: Q2 try it rather than avoid it #lrnchat
9:12:55 pm jkunrein: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can internal SNs impact individual performance? What can individuals and org practices do to ensure this? #lrnchat
9:12:59 pm nancyrubin: RT @dpeter: Q2) Trust? or Empower? Engage? Enrich? — EMPOWER – sounds dangerous :-) #lrnchat
9:13:04 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) expand – enhance inforal learning possibly document some informal learning #lrnchat
9:13:07 pm gminks: but don't you think if you can prove you are hitting performance measures there would be more support? #lrnchat
9:13:18 pm dpeter: RT @wlonline: Q2 try it rather than avoid it #lrnchat
9:13:19 pm StephanieDaul: Fear, control, trust #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:13:34 pm ajeanne: Q2) To encourage, a manager might say "Hey, good tweet about X the other day." #lrnchat
9:13:38 pm Dave_Ferguson: @hjarche Your point is good. W/in an org, both collab & coop have their place (collab for a cross-dept team, f'rinstance). #lrnchat
9:13:39 pm Mary_a_Myers: embrace it RT @wlonline: Q2 try it rather than avoid it #lrnchat
9:13:41 pm espnguyen: RT @hjarche: FWIW, I've thought long & hard on collaboration, but it's "cooperation" that happens in networks http://is.gd/4ZfUP #lrnchat
9:13:46 pm kasey428: Q2 Create a rating system for contributors. Those who contribute the highest rated info could be acknowledged. #lrnchat
9:13:57 pm espnguyen: RT @dpeter: RT @wlonline: Q2 try it rather than avoid it #lrnchat
9:13:57 pm dpeter: RT @nancyrubin: RT @dpeter: Q2) Trust? or Empower? Engage? Enrich? — EMPOWER – sounds dangerous :-) – Have to take a chance? #lrnchat
9:14:02 pm minutebio: RT @tmiket: @minutebio If it was easy enough we certainly wouldnt need as many right? I wouldn't have a job-JG #lrnchat
9:14:02 pm BlakeGroup: One of the toughest things in an internal comm effort is feedback. But also very valuable. A good SN has it. #lrnchat
9:14:05 pm Mary_a_Myers: @gminks i think so; actually i know so. #lrnchat
9:14:30 pm jkunrein: q2) back to uCern example from #kcastd: someone in legal asks for an outline, someone in training has it. no one recreates wheel. #lrnchat
9:14:32 pm theherocc: What is #lrnchat? I'm missing something important, I can tell.
9:14:35 pm abhijitkadle: RT @moehlert: Nooo!!!! The ROI Demon has appeared!!! And Lo! BF Skinner rides atop the scaly beast! (Too much?) #lrnchat
9:14:39 pm StephanieDaul: You are going to particpate if you see your manager posting #lrnchat
9:14:41 pm kelly_smith01: Hey man, my boss RTed me today. Cool. #lrnchat
9:14:50 pm joe_deegan: @ajeanne Yes, I try to bring up as many positive examples as I can for execs. #lrnchat
9:14:54 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q2 intrnl social networks help ppl find the other ppl that they need, whether they realize it or not. it is often who you know… #lrnchat
9:14:55 pm tmiket: It's about how you apply your SocNetwks..just another tool..it's HOW you use it #lrnchat
9:14:56 pm Dave_Ferguson: We don't often talk about the individual's need to manage / filter; outsiders worry but maybe can't phrase the question. #lrnchat
9:14:59 pm chrisstjohn: RT @kasey428: Q2 Create a rating system for contributors. Those who contribute the highest could be acknowledged. (or persecuted) #lrnchat
9:15:00 pm sillym0nkey: RT ajeanne: Q2) A mngr might say "Hey, good tweet about X …" Iit cd garner comments from mgrs not usually accessible #lrnchat
9:15:00 pm ajeanne: Q2) Also, if managers use and refer to stuff they saw online, then others will think they should pay attention, too. #lrnchat
9:15:01 pm kasey428: RT @chrisstjohn: feedback opportunities mean exposure.Silod organizations resist sharing that they think equates to loss of control #lrnchat
9:15:02 pm kathreenriel: @bschlenker to maxmize these altruistic opportunities we need to expand our notions of community as Nancy White suggested #lrnchat
9:15:10 pm espnguyen: @dpeter Some employees need to be empowered in their orgs though. Many have gone far too long without a voice #lrnchat
9:15:22 pm busynessgirl: @theherocc Search twitter for the hashtag #lrnchat and you'll see. #lrnchat
9:15:24 pm kellygarber: RT @StephanieDaul: You are going to particpate if you see your manager posting #lrnchat
9:15:26 pm lrnchat: #lrnchat Just so you know…one company from #dl09, deploying Yamm*r, estimate savings at $3-5 million per year in linking global repair ops
9:15:34 pm willswords: Q2) Over time searchable social networks give individuals access to collective intelligence #lrnchat
9:15:39 pm BlakeGroup: One way to rate SN contribs is by comments from readers. Like blogs do. #lrnchat
9:15:41 pm Dave_Ferguson: @theherocc see lrnchat.wordpress.com ; twitter-based conversation on learning issues, use #lrnchat hashtag #lrnchat
9:15:55 pm badsquare: Social tech platforms finally bring organic order to the slew of disconnected comm & productivity tools…email, IM, "documents" #lrnchat
9:16:00 pm kasey428: @kelly_smith01 Does that mean a raise is in your future? #lrnchat
9:16:01 pm hjarche: @theherocc it is: http://lrnchat.wordpress.com/ #lrnchat
9:16:10 pm urbie: @marciamarcia it requires investment in people. no investment = sad/mad people and probably not the social interaction you wanted. #lrnchat
9:16:18 pm dpeter: RT @willswords: Q2) Over time searchable social networks give individuals access to collective intelligence – and growth #lrnchat
9:16:19 pm cindyhugg: needing to step away from #lrnchat, hope to be back…
9:16:27 pm JaneBozarth: RT @StephanieDaul: You are going to particpate if you see your manager posting #lrnchat
9:16:42 pm joe_deegan: Never underestimate the importance of marketing when it comes to implementing social learning. It doesn't just happen. #lrnchat
9:16:42 pm sahana2802: RT @lrnchat #lrnchat …one company from #dl09, deploying Yamm*r, estimate savings at $3-5 million per year in linking global repair ops
9:16:50 pm jkunrein: how does that get factored into performance review? RT @kasey428: @kelly_smith01 Does that mean a raise is in your future? #lrnchat
9:16:51 pm tmiket: @badsquare I like organic…add to it naturally #lrnchat
9:16:56 pm tgrevatt: Hey social media followers – check out the discussion going on with the #lrnchat gang tonight. Well worth the read.
9:17:03 pm chrisstjohn: RT @willswords: Q2) Social networks give indivs access to collective intelligence. (But like the BORG, what is the collective?) #lrnchat
9:17:03 pm krinhoh: @hjarche Collaboration also happens – but it's hit or miss #lrnchat
9:17:08 pm kellygarber: RT @willswords: Q2) Over time searchable social networks give individuals access to collective intelligence #lrnchat
9:17:15 pm DavidAKnopf: @BlakeGroup Content & contributor ranking can really help but can be a double-edged sword, too. #lrnchat
9:17:22 pm debs: I store my knowledge in my network. #lrnchat (via @jaycross)
9:17:22 pm NahumG: @moehlert @marciamarcia @krinhoh Learning could be indirect & thus hard to measure investment. Does that make investment not real? #lrnchat
9:17:23 pm joe_deegan: @kasey428 @kelly_smith01 Do raises still exist? #lrnchat
9:17:26 pm gminks: they had metrics to prove this ROI RT @lrnchat: 1 company deploying Yamm*r, est savings at $3-5M per year linking global repair ops #lrnchat
9:17:27 pm kelly_smith01: I see big value for SoMe with field techs. In the field they sometimes need support & direction big $$$ for time and manpower #lrnchat
9:17:31 pm LearningPutty: Forethought maybe… but always invstmt RT @krinhoh: If no real invstmt in lrng, then no ROI. Social is often without investment #lrnchat
9:17:43 pm kasey428: RT @badsquare: Social tech platforms finally bring organic order to the slew of disconnected comm & productivity tools…email… #lrnchat
9:17:48 pm hjarche: social networks create the grist for your PKM (personal knowledge management) mill #lrnchat
9:17:49 pm ThomasStone: I really don't like idea of changing name of something just to get C-suite to accept it. Social is accurate, so I say stick with it #lrnchat
9:17:51 pm marciamarcia: Several great enterprise microsharing solutions: For example, check out Socialtext Signals http://sn.im/free-50 #lrnchat
9:17:53 pm lorireed: RT @jaycross: Folks, Jesus had a social network. This is not new. #lrnchat
9:17:54 pm BlakeGroup: A good SN can be collective corporate database. People come + go, but here is way to capture some knowledge. #lrnchat
9:17:57 pm KoreenOlbrish: social networks grow out of a collective need that's not being met otherwise. what are those unmet org needs? #lrnchat
9:18:02 pm ajeanne: Thankfully, we are not BORGS, at least, not yet. :) #lrnchat
9:18:04 pm dpeter: RT @debs: I store my knowledge in my network. #lrnchat (via @jaycross) #lrnchat
9:18:05 pm StephanieDaul: using sn to identify talent in an organization #lrnchat
9:18:12 pm nancyrubin: RT @willswords: Q2) social networks give individuals access to collective intelligence – and more and more competitive intelligence #lrnchat
9:18:25 pm Dave_Ferguson: "The collective" is also knows as your industry or your field. Ain't as scary that way. #lrnchat
9:18:26 pm LearningPutty: RT @lrnchat: One company from #dl09, deploying Yamm*r, estimate savings at $3-5 million per year in linking global repair ops #lrnchat
9:18:33 pm krinhoh: @LearningPutty not necessarily. social networks and tech often left to grassroots #lrnchat
9:18:34 pm busynessgirl: RT @ajeanne: Thankfully, we are not BORGS, at least, not yet. :) #lrnchat
9:18:35 pm insynctraining: RT @StephanieDaul: You are going to participate if you see your manager posting #lrnchat
9:18:42 pm hjarche: @krinhoh collaboration has an objective, cooperation doesn't – both can succeed or fail for many reasons #lrnchat
9:18:45 pm badsquare: RT @marciamarcia Several great enterprise microsharing solutions: For example, check out Socialtext Signals http://sn.im/free-50 #lrnchat
9:18:46 pm nancyrubin: RT @BlakeGroup: A good SN can be collective corporate database. — New form of expert system from back in the day #lrnchat
9:18:53 pm sillym0nkey: RT dpeter: RT @willswords: Q2 Searchable social ntwrks give individuals access 2 collective intelligence YES & it's huge #lrnchat
9:18:54 pm sahana2802: RT @KoreenOlbrish social networks grow out of a collective need that's not being met otherwise. what are those unmet org needs? #lrnchat
9:18:55 pm Steli: Educators 2.0 is an example of a newly launched social learning network http://bit.ly/2mVNqA #lrnchat
9:18:55 pm supercoolSchool: Educators 2.0 is an example of a newly launched social learning network http://bit.ly/2mVNqA #lrnchat
9:19:00 pm kasey428: RT @marciamarcia: Several great enterprise microsharing solutions: For example, check out Socialtext Signals http://sn.im/free-50 #lrnchat
9:19:01 pm lrnchat: RT @marciamarcia: Several great enterprise microsharing solutions: For example, check out Socialtext Signals http://sn.im/free-50 #lrnchat
9:19:02 pm BlakeGroup: @DavidAKnopf That's why I like comments! People have to explain their reactions, not just rate. Adds context. #lrnchat
9:19:03 pm busynessgirl: Are the Borg a social learning network? #lrnchat
9:19:04 pm instructron: Q2 Negative perspective – employees want to hold on to their knowledge for fear of job security? #lrnchat
9:19:08 pm espnguyen: @ThomasStone Problem is the word "social" has gotten a bad wrap being linked to other [perceived] time wasters #lrnchat
9:19:11 pm dpeter: Social networks provide the link to the past, the understanding of the present, and the vision for the future. #lrnchat
9:19:16 pm joe_deegan: Q2) So far internal SN is making an impact by reducing tech support calls. Search the wiki before emailing the helpdesk! #lrnchat
9:19:17 pm gminks: RT @marciamarcia: Several great enterprise microsharing solutions: For example, check out Socialtext Signals http://sn.im/free-50 #lrnchat
9:19:26 pm StephanieDaul: Collective intellegence scares some organizations #lrnchat
9:19:38 pm wlonline: RT @dpeter: Social networks provide the link to the past, the understanding of the present, and the vision for the future. #lrnchat
9:19:39 pm Mary_a_Myers: social networks bring out the human aspects, the real vs. the cloak of "professionalism" often maintained in the workplace. #lrnchat
9:19:42 pm bmo: @hjarche not really social networks are about love #lrnchat
9:19:50 pm krinhoh: right RT @moehlert: @nahumg @marciamarcia #lrnchat Think the pt is that social networks don't rely on external $$ to exist – tuff to measure
9:19:51 pm kelly_smith01: @hjarche PKM is great for indexing expertise from inside/outside corporate wall. The issue is organizing knowledge for access #lrnchat
9:19:54 pm ThomasStone: Ha! in Twitter-like jargon, Jesus had *followers* :-) RT @jaycross: Folks, Jesus had a social network. This is not new. #lrnchat
9:19:56 pm allonsdanser: RT @hjarche: social networks create the grist for your PKM (personal knowledge management) mill #lrnchat
9:20:03 pm chrisstjohn: RT @ajeanne: But it is the fear of the Borg, not the realization that scares boomer managers. #lrnchat
9:20:07 pm Dave_Ferguson: @busynessgirl No, the Borg mainly concentrate on SCORM compliance. #lrnchat
9:20:08 pm JaneBozarth: yes RT @instructron: Q2 Negative perspective – employees want to hold on to their knowledge for fear of job security? #lrnchat
9:20:12 pm tmiket: @instructron I'd rather share and we are all better off..I know that's not always common #lrnchat
9:20:14 pm kathreenriel: gotta go now! I just discovered the true meaning of virtual surfing! Thanks #lrnchat
9:20:17 pm busynessgirl: Better question, is twitter a "hive mind" ? #lrnchat
9:20:18 pm jkunrein: RT @Mary_a_Myers: SNs bring out the human aspects, the real vs. the cloak of "professionalism" often maintained in the workplace. #lrnchat
9:20:26 pm ajeanne: RT @joe_deegan: Q2) ..Internal SN is making an impact by reducing tech support calls. Search the wiki before emailing the helpdesk! #lrnchat
9:20:29 pm nancyrubin: RT @joe_deegan: Did case study on this for a univ a few years ago – cut help desk calls over 50% (understatement) #lrnchat
9:20:29 pm hamtra: Joined in late and lurking. #lrnchat
9:20:32 pm StephanieDaul: Sn becomes the buzzword without any definition #lrnchat
9:20:34 pm krinhoh: well said RT @hjarche: @krinhoh collaboration has an objective, cooperation doesn't – both can succeed or fail for many reasons #lrnchat
9:20:35 pm tmiket: SoMe gives me access to expertise that doesn't even exist internally #lrnchat
9:20:40 pm jkunrein: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @busynessgirl No, the Borg mainly concentrate on SCORM compliance. #lrnchat
9:20:40 pm sillym0nkey: RT instructron: Q2 Neg perspective-employees want 2hold on 2their knowledge 4fear of job security?Yes! &tht prty is over #lrnchat
9:20:42 pm BlakeGroup: RT @dpeter Social networks provide link to the past, understanding of the present, + vision for the future. Excellent! #lrnchat
9:20:48 pm bschlenker: RT @kellygarber: RT @willswords: Q2) Over time searchable social networks give individuals access to collective intelligence #lrnchat
9:20:53 pm JaneBozarth: @instructron You're right– we're all assuming that all workers want all this sharing #lrnchat
9:20:53 pm dpeter: CSI mentions Twitter – Sgt Brass tweets! #lrnchat
9:20:58 pm busynessgirl: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @busynessgirl No, the Borg mainly concentrate on SCORM compliance. (and learning objects) #lrnchat
9:21:10 pm Dave_Ferguson: There are lots of knowledge-hoarders in any org / bureaucracy. And not a few academi departments. #lrnchat
9:21:10 pm deanna128: ooh I like that!! RT @KoreenOlbrish: … its not a "game"…its "competitive learning environment" #lrnchat
9:21:14 pm gminks: drink…. RT @Dave_Ferguson: @busynessgirl No, the Borg mainly concentrate on SCORM compliance. #lrnchat
9:21:20 pm sillym0nkey: RT tmiket: SoMe gives me access to expertise that doesn't even exist internally The REAL value #lrnchat
9:21:33 pm kasey428: @StephanieDaul I see that client environments (federal agencies). The collective can let loose the fear of a god for the gov't. #lrnchat
9:21:44 pm espnguyen: s'okay You're doing great work with the Tweetbook I'm sure. RT @hamtra: Joined in late and lurking. #lrnchat
9:21:50 pm krinhoh: RT @Dave_Ferguson: There are lots of knowledge-hoarders in any org / bureaucracy. And not a few academi departments. #lrnchat
9:21:51 pm Mary_a_Myers: helps me discover the hidden talents of my network #lrnchat
9:22:09 pm bschlenker: RT @lrnchat: #lrnchat A company from #dl09, deploying Yamm*r, estimate savings at $3-5 million per year in linking global repair ops <<nice!
9:22:17 pm denniscallahan: RT @willswords: Q2) Over time searchable social networks give individuals access to collective intelligence #lrnchat
9:22:19 pm KoreenOlbrish: @busynessgirl i think Twitter is a hive mind…you have to get past the buzzing #lrnchat
9:22:20 pm MariaOD: Tweetie, Twittlelators are hung! Cnt #lrnchat. :-( . #fb http://twitpic.com/q6eh4
9:22:20 pm JaneBozarth: @gminks First ROI, now SCORM, and I have to work tomorrow… #lrnchat
9:22:32 pm Dave_Ferguson: I like the def. of ‘value’ as “better, faster, cheaper, more.” The noun those modify depends on you & your organization. #lrnchat
9:22:39 pm tmiket: @krinhoh Down with knowledge hoarders! #lrnchat
9:22:42 pm nancyrubin: Help Desk KB (Wiki) http://www.parature.com/casestudy/ParatureSuccessStory_FAU.pdf #lrnchat
9:22:43 pm kellygarber: Q2 in an rancid environment employees fear sharing b/c it has meant their ideas are “stolen” and they do not get credit. #lrnchat
9:22:44 pm ajeanne: Many boomers I know just shake their heads & think that people using Twitter, e.g., are “way out there” technologically. Sad. #lrnchat
9:22:51 pm JaneBozarth: RT @Dave_Ferguson: There are lots of knowledge-hoarders in any org / bureaucracy. And not a few academic departments. #lrnchat
9:22:52 pm StephanieDaul: Why aren’t SN part of talent management systems? #lrnchat
9:23:00 pm dpeter: RT @KoreenOlbrish: @busynessgirl i think Twitter is a hive mind…you have to get past the buzzing #lrnchat
9:23:01 pm kelly_smith01: RT @dpeter: RT @debs: I store my knowledge in my network. #lrnchat (via @jaycross) #lrnchat
9:23:06 pm jkunrein: @Dave_Ferguson i think SNs and COPs work because most ppl really aren’t knowledge hoarders, though #lrnchat
9:23:07 pm willswords: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_intelligence #lrnchat
9:23:08 pm dpeter: RT @tmiket: @krinhoh Down with knowledge hoarders! #lrnchat
9:23:10 pm lrnchat: RT @KoreenOlbrish: @busynessgirl i think Twitter is a hive mind…you have to get past the buzzing #lrnchat
9:23:10 pm Dave_Ferguson: @JaneBozarth We’ll lunch at Addie’s restaurant… #lrnchat
9:23:12 pm bschlenker: RT @kathreenriel: @bschlenker to maxmize these altruistic opportunities we need to expand our notions of community < http://sn.im/Socialcast-signup #lrnchat
9:23:59 pm krinhoh: YES YES RT @dpeter: RT @tmiket: @krinhoh Down with knowledge hoarders! #lrnchat
9:24:07 pm busynessgirl: Instead of offering you the option to sign up for a twitter account, Twitter should offer to “assimilate you” #lrnchat
9:24:14 pm ajeanne: You mentioned my best girlfriend! :) )) RT @Dave_Ferguson: @JaneBozarth Well lunch at Addies restaurant… #lrnchat
9:24:26 pm dpeter: So, Twitterers are bees … drones, working in the hive, bringing pollen (knowledge) back and sharing it with others? Buzz buzz #lrnchat
9:24:28 pm hamtra: The moment you RT are you part of the collective then? Contributing to the hive. #lrnchat
9:24:31 pm dresingleton: @dpeter orgs have to be receptive to social networks. those that control security have to understand why this is needed #lrnchat
9:24:34 pm kelly_smith01: Will there be a “SCORM” for social media #lrnchat
9:24:45 pm Dave_Ferguson: @jkunrein Absolutely SNs & CoPs work. Only meant not everyone values / buys into them. And some will resist if not sabotage. #lrnchat
9:24:46 pm busynessgirl: @urbie Agreed, the new spam tweets that are @ replies are particularly annoying because you can’t get rid of them. #lrnchat
9:24:56 pm espnguyen: @StephanieDaul Especially since the best talent in most orgs aren’t the ones the org has “officially” identified #lrnchat
9:25:05 pm lrnchat: RT @hamtra: The moment you RT are you part of the collective then? Contributing to the hive. #lrnchat
9:25:12 pm bschlenker: RT @hamtra: Joined in late and lurking. #lrnchat << cuz ur wrkn on that killer devlearn tweetbook right? ;-)
9:25:13 pm tmiket: @kelly_smith01 What would SoMe SCORM do? #lrnchat
9:25:24 pm sillym0nkey: krinhoh: YES YES RT @dpeter: RT @tmiket: @krinhoh Down with knowledge hoarders Yes! We win! They lose!! #lrnchat
9:25:24 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @espnguyen: @StephanieDaul Especially since the best talent in most orgs arent the ones the org has "officially" identified #lrnchat
9:25:24 pm dpeter: @Dave_Ferguson I hope no SCORM for SoMe! #lrnchat
9:25:24 pm DavidAKnopf: RT @kelly_smith01: Will there be a "SCORM" for social media | hmm … wonder how that would work #lrnchat
9:25:28 pm ajeanne: Well, you could keep your intelligence to yourself… oh wait… #lrnchat
9:25:32 pm Dave_Ferguson: @kelly_smith01 I have no doubt. And SoMe SCOs, and SoMe manifests… #lrnchat
9:25:37 pm krinhoh: @LearningPutty grassroots is how we got 75 percent of our stuff done….maybe more..it's what pushed us forward. Fortune 100 co. #lrnchat
9:25:38 pm JaneBozarth: @kelly_smith01 Please no #lrnchat
9:25:42 pm KevinDJones: @kelly_smith01 The SCORM for SM is the trail of contributions you leave behind – sharing and networking. #lrnchat
9:25:47 pm busynessgirl: Maybe the "SCORM" for social media is the 140-character limit, which originated in texting. #lrnchat
9:25:48 pm KoreenOlbrish: @dpeter I'd rather like to think i'm the bee pollenating the flowers… #lrnchat
9:25:55 pm chrisstjohn: As Microsoft builds Twitter into Outlook 2010, it will be the sames as a SCORM. #lrnchat
9:25:55 pm ethang: would love to #lrnchat but busy finishing paper about #ict4d – i'm there in twirit
9:26:02 pm kellygarber: If "someone" decides it must be measured, right? RT @kelly_smith01: Will there be a "SCORM" for social media #lrnchat
9:26:04 pm JaneBozarth: Is someone who never RTs then considered a knowledge hoarder? #lrnchat
9:26:04 pm sillym0nkey: RT lrnchat: RT @hamtra: The moment u RT r u part of the collective then? Contributing 2the hive.Maybe but in a good way #lrnchat
9:26:08 pm krinhoh: #lrnchat
9:26:20 pm krinhoh: Just cuz you need to know…you guys all rock. #lrnchat
9:26:20 pm JaneBozarth: RT @ajeanne: Well, you could keep your intelligence to yourself… oh wait… #lrnchat
9:26:23 pm kasey428: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @kelly_smith01 I have no doubt. And SoMe SCOs, and SoMe manifests… #lrnchat
9:26:31 pm ajeanne: @KevinDJones Hi Kevin! :) #lrnchat
9:26:33 pm joe_deegan: I'm so over SCORM #lrnchat
9:26:35 pm kelly_smith01: RT @tmiket: @kelly_smith01 What would SoMe SCORM do? Something like #hashtags? #lrnchat
9:26:40 pm jadekaz: ha ha ha ha RT @chrisstjohn: As Microsoft builds Twitter into Outlook 2010, it will be the sames as a SCORM. #lrnchat
9:26:47 pm busynessgirl: If you're following and confused by all the tweets, search for #lrnchat on twitter and join us. #lrnchat
9:26:52 pm sillym0nkey: RT chrisstjohn: As Microsoft builds Twitter into Outlook 2010, it will be the sames as a SCORM. /??? what does that mean? #lrnchat
9:26:53 pm tmiket: @JaneBozarth The hoarders don't even tweet in the 1st place #lrnchat
9:26:57 pm dpeter: RT @KoreenOlbrish: @dpeter Id rather like to think im the bee pollenating the flowers… :) Spreading the knowledge here and there #lrnchat
9:27:08 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @joe_deegan: Im so over SCORM #lrnchat
9:27:10 pm bmo: @hjarche it's not rocket science and it may not be quanitifable buit iit is human #lrnchat
9:27:13 pm Dave_Ferguson: @JaneBozarth I prefer to think it's someone who "hasn't yet" retweeted. Speramus meliora. #lrnchat
9:27:15 pm KevinDJones: @ajeanne Hi! Joining late, but always good to be here. #lrnchat
9:27:18 pm sillym0nkey: RT joe_deegan: I'm so over SCORM – SCORM is dead #lrnchat
9:27:24 pm bschlenker: RT @sillym0nkey: RT tmiket: SoMe gives me access to expertise that doesn't even exist internally The REAL value #lrnchat
9:27:25 pm valdiskrebs: RT it is futile 2 resist!
9:27:46 pm kelly_smith01: SCORM thinks it is to cool for school. They are so proud of themselves. #lrnchat
9:27:53 pm JaneBozarth: I’m going to pitch a reality show about slide rule- wielding control freaks named Roi. He works for SCORM, Inc. #lrnchat
9:28:01 pm nancyrubin: Do you tag your own personal content or just blog posts? How important is tagging in organizing info in your PLN? Still assessing. #lrnchat
9:28:02 pm espnguyen: Can we please leave AICC, SCORM, et al out of this? They’ll just cause things to break #lrnchat
9:28:04 pm bacigalupe: Q2 In a networked world, people connect to ppl like thmslves. What flows is at the edges of similarity (Boyd) http://bit.ly/2yjxHw #lrnchat
9:28:10 pm KevinDJones: Seriously, I think we spend too much time trying to take old notions to fit them in to the modern world. Time to think totally new. #lrnchat
9:28:14 pm krinhoh: YES RT lrnchat: RT @hamtra: The moment u RT r u part of the collective then? Contributing 2the hive.Maybe but in a good way #lrnchat
9:28:14 pm JaneBozarth: RT @KoreenOlbrish: RT @joe_deegan: Im so over SCORM #lrnchat
9:28:18 pm roninchef: @hamtra Yes! The RT passes the knowledge on and reaffirms the knowledge through repetition. The hive mind grows stronger. #lrnchat
9:28:20 pm kasey428: RT @joe_deegan: Im so over SCORM > I wish could be ’so over SCORM’. Everything we do must be compliant. Darn. #lrnchat
9:28:24 pm espnguyen: @KevinDJones By the way, I miss the social learning strategies and trends podcast. #lrnchat
9:28:25 pm busynessgirl: Can we coin the phrase tweetborg here? #lrnchat
9:28:28 pm chrisstjohn: @sillym0nkey Wall Street Journal today reported that Outlook 2010 will have Twitter and Facebook built in. #lrnchat
9:28:31 pm instructron: Over time a SN may accrue outdated knowledge. Moderation of content necessary. #lrnchat
9:28:39 pm marciamarcia: Also for enterprise microsharing Present.ly, Cubetree… #lrnchat
9:28:42 pm urbie: urbie@bschlenker in the small shops where i typically work the real value of SoMe is knowing there are others “out there” #lrnchat
9:28:44 pm tmiket: RT @espnguyen: Can we please leave AICC, SCORM, et al out of this? They’ll just cause things to break #lrnchat
9:28:45 pm JaneBozarth: LOL! RT @espnguyen: Can we please leave AICC, SCORM, et al out of this? Theyll just cause things to break #lrnchat
9:28:46 pm ethang: don’t worry i drank #lrnchat
9:28:49 pm krinhoh: you could say that…the grazers and gawkers RT @JaneBozarth: Is someone who never RTs then considered a knowledge hoarder? #lrnchat
9:28:53 pm lrnchat: RT @marciamarcia: Also for enterprise microsharing Present.ly, Cubetree… #lrnchat
9:28:55 pm kellygarber: @dpeter @KoreenOlbrish if you all bring birds into that analogy we are going to have to expand the drinking list. #lrnchat
9:28:56 pm KevinDJones: RT @espnguyen: Can we please leave AICC, SCORM, et al out of this? They’ll just cause things to break #lrnchat > AMEN!
9:29:01 pm jkunrein: @Dave_Ferguson optimistic, but… SNs and COPs could cure knowledge hoarding b/c once you answer someone’s q, you’re the expert #lrnchat
9:29:02 pm kelly_smith01: I want one of those giant slide rules the math teacher used to have #lrnchat
9:29:08 pm krinhoh: LMAO RT @espnguyen: Can we please leave AICC, SCORM, et al out of this? They’ll just cause things to break #lrnchat
9:29:12 pm Mary_a_Myers: @JaneBozarth Roi is King (also so is Elvis) #lrnchat
9:29:12 pm sahana2802: RT @JaneBozarth I’m going to pitch a reality show about slide rule- wielding control freaks named Roi. He works for SCORM, Inc. #lrnchat :)
9:29:18 pm tmiket: Does SCORM, AICC etc come with too much friction to be successful in SoMe realm? #lrnchat
9:29:23 pm chrisstjohn: RT @busynessgirl: Can we coin the phrase TWEETBORG here? #lrnchat
9:29:31 pm krinhoh: @nancyrubin tagging is critical for searchability and context in learning #lrnchat
9:29:32 pm JaneBozarth: @KevinDJones AND too much time acting as if things that have been around forever are brand-new. Think differently about that, too. #lrnchat
9:29:32 pm Dave_Ferguson: A RT is ‘hey, look at this.’ Some people, 90% of their RTs: their own stuff. Genius, or personality disorder? #lrnchat
9:29:35 pm sillym0nkey: RT JaneBozarth: I’m going 2 pitch reality show about slide rule- wielding control Roi, works 4 SCORM, Inc. Can I help? #lrnchat
9:29:35 pm BlakeGroup: Sorry all, gotta run. Great #lrnchat ! Thanks, @marciamarcia and @lrnchat
9:29:40 pm gminks: so the 90% lurkers are all info hoarders? #lrnchat
9:29:42 pm KevinDJones: @espnguyen Me too. Dave and I are going to start it up again when he gets back from the UK. #lrnchat
9:29:52 pm espnguyen: In fact, we should add SCORM to the list of words that make you take a drink during #lrnchat
9:29:56 pm chrisstjohn: i hope that is the start of a beautweetful relationship!! #lrnchat
9:29:58 pm dpeter: @nancyrubin: I do tag my blog posts. Easier to find and sort. SoMe seems to work better with some taxonomy of sorts #lrnchat
9:30:05 pm kelly_smith01: Getting back to IT. I still want to know more of the bandwidth chewing of SoMe #lrnchat
9:30:13 pm ajeanne: Let us not borgify the whole tweeting thing! #lrnchat
9:30:15 pm joe_deegan: SCORM in internal Social Media would promote internal spamming. #lrnchat
9:30:20 pm sillym0nkey: ROI just left the building #lrnchat
9:30:28 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @Dave_Ferguson: A RT is hey, look at this. Some people, 90% of their RTs: their own stuff. Genius, or personality disorder? #lrnchat
9:30:31 pm nancyrubin: Examples of SM at use in orgs? Wikis for what? Project building, document collaboration, knowledge bases? Blogs for pers info? #lrnchat
9:30:41 pm JffZllr: Hive concept is only better if collective knowledge is greater than individual knowledge. #lrnchat
9:30:46 pm espnguyen: @KevinDJones Super! If you didn’t I was considering asking you for the rights to it :) #lrnchat
9:30:48 pm DavidAKnopf: SCORM, AICC, etc. not designed to measure things that SoMe is good at. #lrnchat
9:30:53 pm lrnchat: Q3) How can internal SNs impact relationships with partners and customers? Actions to take to improve the odds? #lrnchat
9:31:00 pm tmiket: @kelly_smith01 Ah default reason for IT to deny something…too much bandwith #lrnchat
9:31:01 pm ThomasStone: @espnguyen yeah, I know it has bad rap. But if we stray from most accurate word, we’ll regret it later. If there is better word, ok #lrnchat
9:31:01 pm Philip_Cummings: RT @SrtaOwens: QO “Children are likely to live up to what you believe in them.” Ladybird Johnson #lrnchat
9:31:14 pm marciamarcia: nahumg Learning could be indirect & thus hard to measure investment. Does that make investment not real? #lrnchat RT @nahumg
9:31:14 pm JaneBozarth: Sorry did I miss something? I was hiding some knowledge under the floorboards in the kitchen. #lrnchat
9:31:15 pm tmiket: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can internal SNs impact relationships with partners and customers? Actions to take to improve the odds? #lrnchat
9:31:18 pm kellygarber: They take more from their network then they give. RT @gminks: so the 90% lurkers are all info hoarders? #lrnchat
9:31:24 pm dpeter: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can internal SNs impact relationships with partners and customers? Actions to take to improve the odds? #lrnchat
9:31:30 pm StephanieDaul: Lurkers don’t feel empowered to speak #lrnchat
9:31:36 pm ErickTaft: Joining in on #lrnchat. #lrnchat
9:31:45 pm marciamarcia: Learning could be indirect & thus hard to measure investment. Does that make investment not real? #lrnchat RT @nahumg
9:31:46 pm krinhoh: Damn. Who just said we need to start thinking differently? That is DEAD ON! #lrnchat
9:31:47 pm ajeanne: RT @JaneBozarth: Sorry did I miss something? I was hiding some knowledge under the floorboards in the kitchen. #lrnchat
9:31:50 pm ErickTaft: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can internal SNs impact relationships with partners and customers? Actions to take to improve the odds? #lrnchat
9:31:54 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can internal SNs impact relationships with partners and customers? Actions to take to improve the odds? #lrnchat
9:31:56 pm espnguyen: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can internal SNs impact relationships with partners and customers? Actions to take to improve the odds? #lrnchat
9:32:07 pm nancyrubin: Q3) Feature customers as Case Studies – showcase their successes along with yours #lrnchat
9:32:14 pm sillym0nkey: Q3) How can internal SNs impact relationships w/partners &customers? they can let us know they hear us #lrnchat
9:32:17 pm gminks: @kellygarber which nw? the online social nw, maybe, but what if they forward URLs, talk about content IRL…. #lrnchat
9:32:20 pm busynessgirl: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can internal SNs impact relationships with partners and students? Actions to take to improve the odds? #lrnchat
9:32:21 pm chrisstjohn: RT @StephanieDaul: Lurkers don’t feel empowered to speak. (U have to watch the quiet ones in the back.) #lrnchat
9:32:22 pm ajeanne: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can internal SNs impact relationships with partners and customers? Actions to take to improve the odds? #lrnchat
9:32:23 pm dpeter: Q3) How can internal SNs impact relationships with partners and customers? Improve communication, share expectations #lrnchat
9:32:33 pm joe_deegan: Q3) Internal social networks are the only way to maintain relationships with distant co workers #lrnchat
9:32:36 pm JaneBozarth: Q3 Yes can make for a better customer experience. I’d say “seamless” but people in #lrnchat would have to drink on that #lrnchat
9:32:38 pm Dave_Ferguson: “Lurker” ain’t a bad thing, necessarily. Some folks need a while to choose to dip a toe in. #lrnchat
9:32:50 pm ErickTaft: Q3) I can’t get my job done without internal SNs whether they are through microsharing, in-person, etc. #lrnchat
9:32:55 pm KoreenOlbrish: Exactly. RT @DavidAKnopf: SCORM, AICC, etc. not designed to measure things that SoMe is good at. #lrnchat
9:33:00 pm urbie: does SN have a change management component? #lrnchat
9:33:10 pm KevinDJones: @marciamarcia My fave: What is the ROI of putting your pants on in the morning #lrnchat (Don’t remember who said that.)
9:33:15 pm krinhoh: Right. How do we turn them from lurkers into actives? RT @StephanieDaul: Lurkers don’t feel empowered to speak #lrnchat
9:33:18 pm allonsdanser: #lrnchat something to soothe your SCORM soul. EBSCOhost: Role-Based Design: A Contemporary Perspective for Innovation in Instruction…
9:33:20 pm ThomasStone: RT @tmiket: @krinhoh Down with knowledge hoarders! #lrnchat
9:33:23 pm busynessgirl: Need a graphic designer out there to take the twitter bird and make it into a cube to represent the tweetborg. #lrnchat
9:33:24 pm gminks: Q3 internal SNs can accelerate learning about competitive issues, this can be spread to all orgs at 1 time #lrnchat
9:33:27 pm jkunrein: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can internal SNs impact relationships with partners and customers? Actions to take to improve the odds? #lrnchat
9:33:29 pm krinhoh: @ErickTaft Welcome #lrnchat
9:33:36 pm kelly_smith01: Use SN to share knowledge of customers or partners or industry from past/present experience #lrnchat
9:33:37 pm roninchef: @JaneBozarth I get all Howard Hughes with my info. I keep it in pickle jars and empty kleenex boxes. #lrnchat
9:33:39 pm DavidAKnopf: Q3) Simple: better internal communication means better external communication. #lrnchat
9:33:47 pm ErickTaft: @Dave_Ferguson Good analogy – I used that recently in a presentation to a local ASTD chapter. #lrnchat
9:33:49 pm JaneBozarth: @KoreenOlbrish Don’t you think lots of things are measures for the sake of measures? #lrnchat
9:33:53 pm espnguyen: @Dave_Ferguson I’ve had great in person interactions with lurkers as a result of their experience lurking on SoMe #lrnchat
9:33:59 pm ajeanne: Q3) You can ask your customers what they want. You could do that already, but you can add a little immediacy & collaboration. #lrnchat
9:34:00 pm busynessgirl: Q3 Only helps with customer/student experience if they are participants in that social network (sometimes a small fraction). #lrnchat
9:34:00 pm krinhoh: @StephanieDaul often it’s the lurkers that either have the information or most need it #lrnchat
9:34:06 pm sillym0nkey: just found out my app is ready for sale! sorry to go off subject but I am psyched! “#lrnchat
9:34:07 pm wlonline: RT @gminks: Q3 internal SNs can accelerate learning about competitive issues, this can be spread to all orgs at 1 time #lrnchat
9:34:13 pm dpeter: Q3 What IS an internal SN? Office-mate? Email list? Phone number? #lrnchat
9:34:19 pm urbie: are there barriers (firewall, etc) to SN with external peeps? #lrnchat
9:34:20 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q3. SNs allow you to show your customers you’re human. that counts for a lot. #lrnchat
9:34:21 pm denniscallahan: @Dave_Ferguson: agree. Listening can be social too. #lrnchat
9:34:22 pm chrisstjohn: “I just love having knowledge.” Malika Obama via POTUS.#lrnchat
9:34:29 pm Schnicker: Just in! (Friday long lunch) Catching up on tweets.. #lrnchat
9:34:30 pm kasey428: Q3 We use a collaborative space (via a platform similar to SharePoint) where we can interact w/clients on projects. It is OK. #lrnchat
9:34:32 pm kellygarber: @gminks they are giving back just via different avenues-but if covert, and the network doesn’t know, can it *damage* their SN rep? #lrnchat
9:34:49 pm KevinDJones: @DavidAKnopf Yep. Better communication overall is a culture. If it happens in, it will happen out as well. #lrnchat
9:34:50 pm JaneBozarth: RT @chrisstjohn: “I just love having knowledge.” Malika Obama via POTUS.#lrnchat #lrnchat
9:34:51 pm gminks: Lurkers don’t have to speak to be active. Lurking is an action! #lrnchat
9:34:51 pm kelly_smith01: Use SNs to share information on business processes 4 customers/partners or industry 4 product development/customer service #lrnchat
9:35:05 pm nancyrubin: Q3) Use SNs to inform employees about company info, have Q and A section, CEOs are blogging – doing YouTube broadcast ala Obama #lrnchat
9:35:10 pm minutebio: SN – customer following and learning Company culture, Company staff can learn customer culture…and needs too #lrnchat
9:35:13 pm busynessgirl: @KoreenOlbrish Unless, of course, you are part of the tweetborg. #lrnchat
9:35:18 pm NahumG: @moehlert @marciamarcia @krinhoh In open world-social is more spontaneous than in organizations-Soc networks in orgs can rely on $ #lrnchat
9:35:18 pm gminks: @kellygarber if they are lurkers do they *care* about a sn rep? #lrnchat
9:35:20 pm Dave_Ferguson: RT @gminks: Lurkers dont have to speak to be active. Lurking is an action! #lrnchat
9:35:21 pm espnguyen: RT @gminks: Lurkers don’t have to speak to be active. Lurking is an action! #lrnchat
9:35:46 pm StephanieDaul: How do you measure lurking as participating? #lrnchat
9:35:53 pm ajeanne: Depends, @urbie, on the org. RT @urbie: are there barriers (firewall, etc) to SN with external peeps? #lrnchat
9:35:53 pm espnguyen: @Schnicker Welcome! #lrnchat
9:35:55 pm krinhoh: yes. but must speak sometime. it’s a balance RT @denniscallahan: @Dave_Ferguson: agree. Listening can be social too. #lrnchat
9:35:56 pm dpeter: RT @gminks: Lurkers dont have to speak to be active. Lurking is an action! – Lurking is STILL active learning. Cognitive processing #lrnchat
9:36:03 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q3. SNs allow you to show your customers youre human. that counts for a lot. #lrnchat
9:36:12 pm ThomasStone: I don’t get why knowledge hoarders fear SN / Web 2.0 tools. They make it quite transparent who shared an idea first. Archived. #lrnchat
9:36:13 pm jadekaz: Q3 SN can increase sales through “micro”-local focused marketing (e.g., restaurant announcing a special to followers) #lrnchat
9:36:25 pm sillym0nkey: RTnancyrubin: Q3) Use SNs 2 inform employees about company info, QA section, CEOs are blogging… #lrnchat
9:36:34 pm JaneBozarth: Q3 Who is it that I just read about making such good use of SNs/customers? Was it Hewlett-Packard, maybe? Don’t remember. #lrnchat
9:36:41 pm KevinDJones: RT @StephanieDaul: How do you measure lurking as participating? #lrnchat> Why would you measure that?
9:36:42 pm zaana: Internal social networks increase feedback loops in th org; without -th org cannot learn & will fail 2 adapt #lrnchat (via @hjarche @marigo)
9:36:46 pm Dave_Ferguson: Do remember that not all social networks are 2.0. Hallways, phone, email, etc. have served many well for a long time… #lrnchat
9:36:49 pm Schnicker: @espnguyen thanks :o ) #lrnchat
9:36:50 pm kellygarber: Good point-maybe they aren’t aware? SN etiquette training? :) RT @gminks: if they are lurkers do they *care* about a sn rep? #lrnchat
9:36:52 pm bacigalupe: Q3: Assume yr professional & personal life will merge online http://bit.ly/5NxEo #hcsm (thx @cindythroop @MeredithGould @BFFox) #lrnchat
9:36:58 pm bschlenker: RT @KevinDJones: @marciamarcia My fave: What is the ROI of putting your pants on in the morning #lrnchat (Don’t remember who said that.)LOL
9:37:00 pm TBsocialmedia: Social media doesn’t replace relationship building RT@Mary_a_Myers i agree with @hjarche the theme of trust is huge.. #lrnchat
9:37:04 pm jkunrein: okay, back to uCern example: custs share custom code w/ each other, making the co’s products more valuable FOR the company #lrnchat
9:37:07 pm hamtra: @ThomasStone Great point. (Web 2.0 tools. They make it quite transparent who shared an idea first. Archived. #lrnchat)
9:37:13 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone But then someone else would know what they know. #lrnchat
9:37:16 pm NahumG: @moehlert @marciamarcia @krinhoh Part 2: e.g., community management requires investment. Same 4 develop soc tools 4 the enterprise #lrnchat
9:37:17 pm Dave_Ferguson: …the Vatican had email more than 20 years ago. (My employer at the time supplied it.) #lrnchat
9:37:25 pm tmiket: Knowledge hoarders don’t want anyone else to be seen as smarter than them…usually doesn’t work tho does it? #lrnchat
9:37:28 pm ThomasStone: @marciamarcia Do you have or know of any comparison charts for SocialCast vs. Yammer? #lrnchat
9:37:29 pm roninchef: @gminks That depends on the network. I lurk GameFAQs forums for info. But I do not want to partake in that conversation. #lrnchat
9:37:32 pm allonsdanser: #lrnchat. Again. Balm for the Scorm soul. http://www.springerlink.com/content/n4k4376×25552874/
9:37:46 pm kelly_smith01: No use hoarding knowledge unless others know you have knowledge not much value in hoarding unless you share #lrnchat
9:37:47 pm gminks: @kellygarber you can’t force ppl to connect to a SN. They connect in the way that makes sense for them. Show lurkers love #lrnchat
9:37:53 pm wlonline: @JaneBozarth Dell was one #lrnchat
9:38:02 pm busynessgirl: There have been times that I’ve blogged JUST because I knew someone else was getting close to the same idea. #lrnchat
9:38:24 pm gminks: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Do remember that not all social networks are 2.0. Hallways, phone, email, have served many well for a long time #lrnchat
9:38:32 pm Mary_a_Myers: Scary are these thoughts. RT @JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone But then someone else would know what they know. #lrnchat
9:38:35 pm JaneBozarth: @gminks mmmmmmm…. I have a hard time loving the lurkers. #lrnchat
9:38:46 pm kasey428: RT @busynessgirl: There have been times that Ive blogged JUST because I knew someone else was getting close to the same idea. #lrnchat
9:39:04 pm krinhoh: sometimes it’s the grassroots actions that bring enuff attention for investment 2 occur #lrnchat
9:39:06 pm chrisstjohn: @jadekaz Can be done using location-based marketing, ie walking by a Starbucks = announcing specials on your iPhone. #lrnchat
9:39:08 pm tmiket: @JaneBozarth Lurkers are people too #lrnchat
9:39:12 pm KoreenOlbrish: I worked for a tech company that had an annual “user’s conference” to get their customers together…now you can do that every day #lrnchat
9:39:12 pm kellygarber: Q3 how many of us know when we are on a conf. call and people on the call are participating in side chats? Damage to ext.? #lrnchat
9:39:17 pm ldanakos: RT @gminks: Lurkers don’t have to speak to be active. Lurking is an action! #lrnchat <I prefer this when new to get feel for environment
9:39:21 pm ajeanne: @Dave_Ferguson Oh, you're such a Luddite, with your telephones & stuff. :) #lrnchat
9:39:22 pm lyford: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Do remember that not all social networks are 2.0. Hallways, phone, email, have served many well for a long time #lrnchat
9:39:24 pm instructron: Without lurkers, we may end up with information overload. #lrnchat
9:39:35 pm KevinDJones: @gminks So true. It is like we are trying to force culture, community and sociality. Guide it, adv. it, but don't force it. #lrnchat
9:39:42 pm JaneBozarth: @tmiket I'm not so sure. How can I tell if all they do is lurk? #lrnchat
9:39:47 pm kelly_smith01: HP had something on SN also Nokia – need to review transcript @JaneBozarth #lrnchat
9:39:52 pm sillym0nkey: RT bschlenker: RT @KevinDJones: @marciamarcia fave: What is ROI of putting ur pants on nthe morning #lrnchat ( who said that.)LOL
9:39:55 pm espnguyen: Q3) I think our internal SNs have the ability to connect previously disparate BUs that worked with the same customer #lrnchat
9:39:55 pm dpeter: @JaneBozarth There's always time needed to process, evaluate, reflect and then … do something. #lrnchat
9:40:03 pm gminks: @KoreenOlbrish that's one of the things the community I manage does! :) #lrnchat
9:40:12 pm ValerieRoberts: RT @nancyrubin: Q3) Use SNs to inform employees about co info, have Q & A sec, CEOs are blogging-doing YouTube broadcast ala Obama #lrnchat
9:40:15 pm jjjohnson01: @chrisstjohn Msft & Outlook virtually killed NNTP; I have confidence they will find a way to screw up Twitter/Facebook interface, 2 #lrnchat
9:40:16 pm Dave_Ferguson: @ajeanne Guess the approximate year of the first wireless phone call… #lrnchat
9:40:32 pm SuzNet: Lurkers may be just be waiting to have something new to say #lrnchat
9:40:32 pm bschlenker: @sillym0nkey congrats! That must be exciting. Go ahead and send a link. #lrnchat
9:40:40 pm JaneBozarth: Not just picking on them– actually have experienced a couple of real instances of problems caused by lurkers #lrnchat
9:40:42 pm gminks: @JaneBozarth but the lurkers love you…or they wouldn't stay around to lurk :) #lrnchat
9:40:50 pm KevinDJones: @KoreenOlbrish Us, too. But when they got back home, it was business as usual and they forgot all about connecting and sharing. #lrnchat
9:40:53 pm Dave_Ferguson: @instructron Without lurkers, the world would be filled with shaved-headed social media guys at TED. #lrnchat
9:41:07 pm sillym0nkey: RT lyford: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Remember not all social networks r 2.0. Hallways, phone, email, served many well 4 long time #lrnchat
9:41:09 pm krinhoh: @moehlert I agree, Tim. But they also need credibility. Acknowledge the value. #lrnchat
9:41:17 pm ErickTaft: @espnguyen And do they use it? Or do they prefer the old channels? #lrnchat
9:41:26 pm lrnchat: RT @moehlert: @marciamarcia @krinhoh @nahumg I dunno. I think "community" needs us 2 get out of way more than "manage" -connections #lrnchat
9:41:30 pm sillym0nkey: RT Dave_Ferguson: @instructron Without lurkers, the world would be filled with shaved-headed social media guys at TED. #lrnchat
9:41:32 pm JaneBozarth: @gminks How is lurking not knowledge hoarding? #lrnchat
9:41:41 pm jjjohnson01: Q3 – when they forget to mute the phone? Disruptive for other participants. #lrnchat
9:41:42 pm joe_deegan: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @instructron Without lurkers, the world would be filled with shaved-headed social media guys at TED. #lrnchat
9:41:47 pm kasey428: @gminks Agree. We encourage, but can't force SN. When SN becames a dictate, it is doomed to fail. #lrnchat
9:41:56 pm lrnchat: RT @moehlert: @instructron "info overload" is just a code for bad info design that I can't change (IMHO) #lrnchat
9:41:58 pm busynessgirl: @Dave_Ferguson Uh oh, if I get in to TED, do I have to shave my head? #lrnchat
9:42:05 pm ThomasStone: @Dave_Ferguson a RT of your own tweet is a retweet in name only. A nominal re-tweet. Pathetic. #lrnchat
9:42:10 pm dpeter: Are lurkers another form of back channeling? We never hear them, but they've got to be doing something, right? #lrnchat
9:42:19 pm krinhoh: bless the lurkers. but they are smart! RT @gminks: @JaneBozarth but the lurkers love you…or they wouldn't stay around to lurk :) #lrnchat
9:42:20 pm denniscallahan: @kelly_smith01: The perceived power of hoarding knowledge is that "they can't do it w/out you" #lrnchat
9:42:20 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat RT @moehlert: @marciamarcia I dunno. I think "community" needs us 2 get out of way more than "manage" -connections #lrnchat
9:42:22 pm jadekaz: Q3 In a CoP, lurkers are the reason for "experts" at the top to be involved and support the newbies. Encourage participation. #lrnchat
9:42:26 pm ajeanne: 1926? RT @Dave_Ferguson: @ajeanne Guess the approximate year of the first wireless phone call… #lrnchat
9:42:28 pm kellygarber: @gminks IMO-networks are about a give/take-you can lurk but if you limit what you give, you will have less to take. #lrnchat
9:42:30 pm Dave_Ferguson: @JaneBozarth Lurking, from Lawrence Berra: you can observe a lot just by watching. #lrnchat
9:42:30 pm gminks: @JaneBozarth I think lurkers share. Just not in the same network. #lrnchat
9:42:34 pm StephanieDaul: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Do remember that not all social networks are 2.0. Hallways, phone, email, have served many well for a long time #lrnchat
9:42:34 pm tmiket: Agreed RT @kasey428: @gminks Agree. We encourage, but can't force SN. When SN becames a dictate, it is doomed to fail. #lrnchat
9:42:38 pm chrisstjohn: Evolve dammit! EVOLVE! #lrnchat
9:42:38 pm bschlenker: @Schnicker I KNEW we were missing someone tonight! Glad you're here, we've missed you #lrnchat
9:42:39 pm espnguyen: @ErickTaft It's taking some time, but I we're seeing potential #lrnchat
9:42:45 pm allonsdanser: @dpeter So true.I lurked #edchat for a while b4 participating.Same with #lrnchat. Lurking has value.SNs facilitate it.eventual participation
9:42:45 pm roninchef: @instructron Lurkers are just using the network to gather info like reading a textbook. That's how I lurk at least. #lrnchat
9:43:11 pm kelly_smith01: Make a friend of a lurker. Take a lurker to lunch. Buy them a Starbucks card. Friend them on FB. #lrnchat
9:43:12 pm KevinDJones: Did you all see the backchannel tweeting at #w20 this week on Tuesday? It was bad. #lrnchat
9:43:13 pm lyford: RT @gminks: @JaneBozarth I think lurkers share. Just not in the same network. #lrnchat
9:43:14 pm kasey428: RT @ThomasStone: @Dave_Ferguson a RT of your own tweet is a retweet in name only. A nominal re-tweet. Pathetic. #lrnchat
9:43:17 pm ErickTaft: @JaneBozarth @gminks Some may choose to not participate rather than lurk. They are the ultimate knowledge hoarders. #lrnchat
9:43:26 pm gminks: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @instructron Without lurkers, the world would be filled with shaved-headed social media guys at TED. #lrnchat
9:43:37 pm JaneBozarth: Really– did a study about a CoP– eventually the more active contributors got tired of the lurkers never sharing anything. #lrnchat
9:43:38 pm joe_deegan: I’m fine with lurkers. They just make me look like an expert. #lrnchat
9:43:51 pm ajeanne: There are some people one might wish would lurk forever & never type a public word. :) #lrnchat
9:43:56 pm SrtaOwens: @Dave_Ferguson The first wireless phone call was in 1973…yes? #lrnchat
9:44:00 pm dpeter: @allonsdanser Yup. Lurking encourages participation — eventually! Patience is a VIRTUE #lrnchat
9:44:16 pm urbie: @StephanieDaul don’t forget the message in a bottle form of SN. #lrnchat
9:44:19 pm nancyrubin: Most SN projects (just like others) require guidelines for success…they are just tools. Newbies need incentives/ideas to start #lrnchat
9:44:19 pm espnguyen: RT @joe_deegan: I’m fine with lurkers. They just make me look like an expert. #lrnchat
9:44:20 pm jjjohnson01: Agreed. Which helps spread the “word.” RT: @gminks @JaneBozarth I think lurkers share. Just not in the same network. #lrnchat
9:44:20 pm chrisleblanc: Lurkers don’t have to speak to be active. Lurking is an action! #lrnchat (via @gminks) I’m in lurking acquisition mode = listening
9:44:29 pm kelly_smith01: Am a a lurker if I am watching “the Birds” while in #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:44:34 pm krinhoh: @ErickTaft Then again, they may be taking the information back to other. Thus, supporting the process #lrnchat
9:44:35 pm sillym0nkey: I have been a lurker and then got very involved with groups in the past. people lurk for different reasons #lrnchat
9:44:36 pm Schnicker: @bschlenker Thanks! Here now, was out at Friday lunch :o ) #lrnchat
9:44:41 pm SueSchnorr: you can’t ’stereotype’ lurkers. One may be quiet because of lack of knowledge to share, taking it in, & 1 day providing insights #lrnchat
9:44:59 pm bschlenker: @StephanieDaul web intranet tracking tools can help track both actives AND lurkers #lrnchat
9:45:02 pm ajeanne: In Europe, radio telephony was first used on the first-class passenger trains between Berlin and Hamburg in 1926. #lrnchat
9:45:06 pm gminks: RT @espnguyen: RT @joe_deegan: Im fine with lurkers. They just make me look like an expert. #lrnchat
9:45:08 pm rmyardley: SN impacts partners and customers when trust is built. See impact of trust on GDP per capita. See http://tinyurl.com/SMBtrust #lrnchat
9:45:21 pm wlonline: @chrisleblanc I think lurkers are perhaps reflecting… #lrnchat
9:45:41 pm KoreenOlbrish: just realized i’ve been lurking on this lurkers conversation. #lrnchat
9:45:42 pm JaneBozarth: @kelly_smith01 Yes, and you’re multitasking, and lots of research says that’s not possible. So stop it. #lrnchat
9:45:44 pm kelly_smith01: What will Clark say about the frequency of the word “lurkers” tonight? #lrnchat
9:45:47 pm ErickTaft: @krinhoh The lurker taking the knowledge back to non-participant. Hmmm.. #lrnchat
9:45:51 pm allonsdanser: @sillym0nkey #lrnchat One must lurk before running off at the tweet.
9:45:55 pm NahumG: @moehlert @marciamarcia @krinhoh From my work experience, within orgs it’s different from the open world- but sometimes similar #lrnchat
9:45:57 pm Dave_Ferguson: @SrtaOwens Close. You’re only off by 93 years. http://bit.ly/4qXpYF #lrnchat
9:45:58 pm Mary_a_Myers: i lurk, you lurk, they lurk, we lurk…(sung to the tune of Shebop) #lrnchat
9:46:06 pm sillym0nkey: RT SueSchnorr: ucan’t ’stereotype’ lurkers. May b quiet because of lack of knowledge 2share, taking it n, OR just quiets #lrnchat
9:46:07 pm kellygarber: no, you are a multi-tasker! RT @kelly_smith01: Am a a lurker if I am watching “the Birds” while in #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:46:12 pm KevinDJones: Trust is the currency of socializing – on or offline. #lrnchat
9:46:16 pm krinhoh: @so 2 be clear.we do love the lurkers. But we want 2 make sure they’re getting what they need. And giving the oppty 2 contribute. #lrnchat
9:46:29 pm dpeter: RT @wlonline: @chrisleblanc I think lurkers are perhaps reflecting… – yes, critically reflecting! #lrnchat
9:46:33 pm roninchef: In defense of lurking- http://www.cbc.ca/spark/2009/04/jim-lebans-in-defense-of-lurking/ #lrnchat
9:46:44 pm mrch0mp3rs: #lrnchat hey everybody!
9:46:48 pm gminks: I think lurker has a societal negative connotation – silly participation inequality rule! #lrnchat
9:46:51 pm krinhoh: But that’s not bad…if it’s info they need RT @ErickTaft: @krinhoh The lurker taking the knowledge back to non-participant. Hmmm.. #lrnchat
9:46:51 pm busynessgirl: With a lurk lurk here and a lurk lurk there … here a lurk, there a lurk, everywhere a lurk lurk … #lrnchat
9:46:53 pm wlonline: When time is right, some lurkers won’t lurk and will be ready contribute #lrnchat
9:46:53 pm tmiket: RT @KevinDJones: Trust is the currency of socializing – on or offline. #lrnchat
9:46:58 pm krinhoh: RT @KevinDJones: Trust is the currency of socializing – on or offline. #lrnchat
9:46:59 pm kelly_smith01: I came, I saw, I lurked #lrnchat
9:47:01 pm sillym0nkey: KoreenOlbrish: just realized i’ve been lurking on this lurkers conversation. — ha #lrnchat
9:47:05 pm Schnicker: Lurkers might just want to absorb more info, before voicing an opinion #lrnchat
9:47:12 pm Dave_Ferguson: Lurkers: some study; some adopt; some just snooze. But you don’t know how many there are, nor why, so why worry? #lrnchat
9:47:15 pm krinhoh: @kellygarber OMG The Birds is on? #lrnchat
9:47:25 pm wlonline: Have you never lurked? #lrnchat
9:47:30 pm planetrussell: Chance the Gardener from _Being There_ does #lrnchat: “I like to lurk.” (I sure did before participating.)
9:47:31 pm ajeanne: I’ve been in f2f meetings where we were all better off if a few attendees said nothing at all… why different on line? #lrnchat
9:47:32 pm dpeter: RT @KevinDJones: Trust is the currency of socializing – on or offline. #lrnchat
9:47:38 pm nancyrubin: Use polls to encourage lurkers to contribute to conversation. Interactive polls are a good way to gauge “temperature” on an issue. #lrnchat
9:47:40 pm roninchef: @mrch0mp3rs Hi mrch0mp3rs! #lrnchat
9:47:51 pm KoreenOlbrish: @Schnicker @mrch0mp3rs hey you two :) #lrnchat
9:47:53 pm krinhoh: agreed RT @Schnicker: Lurkers might just want to absorb more info, before voicing an opinion #lrnchat
9:47:57 pm gminks: @mrch0mp3rs have you been lurking! #lrnchat
9:48:13 pm KevinDJones: Many lurkers lurk because they don’t want to speak up and look stupid. #lrnchat
9:48:15 pm mbogle: @wlonline I’m lurking right now :) #lrnchat
9:48:17 pm Mary_a_Myers: what was the question again? (welcome @mrch0mp3rs) #lrnchat
9:48:27 pm gminks: some lurkers may not be in a position to speak. #lrnchat
9:48:30 pm chrisstjohn: RT @mrch0mp3rs: #lrnchat hey everybody! (Speaking of lurkers… :) ) ) #lrnchat
9:48:32 pm espnguyen: I used to wonder what value lurkers had until a lurker told me they liked what I post on Yammer :) #lrnchat
9:48:35 pm joe_deegan: Can I get that printed on a shirt? RT @kelly_smith01: I came, I saw, I lurked #lrnchat
9:48:37 pm Dave_Ferguson: I don’t lurk so much as lollygag. #lrnchat
9:48:37 pm kasey428: RT @KevinDJones: Trust is the currency of socializing – on or offline. #lrnchat
9:48:55 pm lrnchat: @nahumg @krinhoh @marciamarcia #lrnchat @KoreenOlbrish had grt pnt at #dl09 re combining personal & professional 2 create human connection
9:49:02 pm bschlenker: RT @gminks: @JaneBozarth I think lurkers share. Just not in the same network. #lrnchat << great point! I lurk in some share in others
9:49:02 pm mrch0mp3rs: @gminks #lrnchat just got the kids in bed. No lurking for me.
9:49:04 pm gminks: participation inequality: http://www.useit.com/alertbox/participation_inequality.html #lrnchat
9:49:05 pm Dave_Ferguson: @KevinDJones No problem. There are TONS of experts willing to speak up and BE stupid. #lrnchat
9:49:11 pm KoreenOlbrish: @KevinDJones ha, i've never been afraid of looking stupid…often to my detriment #lrnchat
9:49:34 pm jadekaz: lurking is a natural part of the learning curve. #lrnchat
9:49:35 pm roninchef: @wlonline From that link. At absolute best maybe 20% of the regular visitors are contributors. Via CBC Spark #lrnchat
9:49:47 pm JaneBozarth: Well I think then we must spread the love and assume knowledge hoarders are just like lurkers, too. #lrnchat
9:49:49 pm busynessgirl: Come to think of it, I think we have a lot of "lurkers" in the classroom. There, but not participating. #lrnchat
9:49:51 pm chrisleblanc: @chrisleblanc I think lurkers are perhaps reflecting… #lrnchat (via @wlonline) :) *nod* affirmative
9:49:51 pm gminks: @mbogle we know the way to get you to stop working is to start talking about blackboard #lrnchat
9:50:02 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @kasey428: RT @KevinDJones: Trust is the currency of socializing – on or offline. #lrnchat
9:50:05 pm KevinDJones: @Dave_Ferguson Agreed, but that is a roadblock for too many. Hey, look at me – I'm with ya, @koreenolbrish ! #lrnchat
9:50:10 pm KoreenOlbrish: yes, agree… RT @jadekaz: lurking is a natural part of the learning curve. #lrnchat
9:50:21 pm kasey428: @wlonline Yes, I have lurked and I felt like a Peeping Tom. #lrnchat
9:50:21 pm bschlenker: RT @chrisstjohn: Evolve dammit! EVOLVE! #lrnchat << is dammit or evolve in the drinking game?
9:50:29 pm tmiket: @KoreenOlbrish If you're afraid of looking dumb will you EVER look smart? #lrnchat
9:50:30 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links welcome. What can we help you with? #lrnchat
9:50:36 pm krinhoh: @moehlert oh my heavens…it's all 24/7…personal & prof are ONE..we are who we are…yes, human connection! #lrnchat
9:50:41 pm chrisstjohn: RT @wired: Can an unannounced product be delayed? Sure — if it's an Apple iTablet http://bit.ly/2H5GmL #lrnchat
9:50:50 pm roninchef: @Dave_Ferguson I like to think of it as browsing. I am using a browser after all. #lrnchat
9:50:54 pm espnguyen: Absolutely! RT @busynessgirl: Come to think of it, we have a lot of "lurkers" in the classroom. There, but not participating. #lrnchat
9:50:57 pm urbie: @KoreenOlbrish maybe it's because they don't have anything to say: they don't know what they don't know #lrnchat
9:50:59 pm StephanieDaul: Or aren't comfortable with format #lrnchat
9:51:01 pm kelly_smith01: I have lurked. Good way to get and evaluate information or situation #lrnchat
9:51:03 pm Dave_Ferguson: @JaneBozarth I didn't really hoard that knowledge about 1st wireless phone call… but I did hide it long ago on my blog. #lrnchat
9:51:04 pm instructron: What methods encourage shy lurkers to participate? Anonymous rating/commenting? #lrnchat
9:51:05 pm KevinDJones: But in trad. training done poorly, all you have are lurkers – it was encouraged. #lrnchat
9:51:16 pm chrisstjohn: @bschlenker Okay, okay. I'll get another glass of wine. #lrnchat
9:51:17 pm JaneBozarth: I'm sorry, did I miss anything? I was unfriending learners on Facebook. #lrnchat
9:51:18 pm ajeanne: I want my Apple iTablet!!! #lrnchat
9:51:21 pm ThomasStone: I don't mind lots of lurkers. Afterall, SNs are not AA meetings, where everyone has to talk and tell their story. #lrnchat
9:51:26 pm KoreenOlbrish: @tmiket if you're never afraid of looking dumb, will you ever look smart? ;) #lrnchat
9:51:37 pm mrch0mp3rs: #lrnchat was just talking about phases of community maturity with @StephanieDaul today. Lurking is a first step.
9:51:40 pm krinhoh: these wl B some of your smartest people RT @tmiket: @KoreenOlbrish If you're afraid of looking dumb will you EVER look smart? #lrnchat
9:51:40 pm SueSchnorr: lurkers have introverted preference 4chatting. Think 1st, reflect be4 'talking', vs. extroverted chatters who type as they think! #lrnchat
9:51:41 pm jadekaz: RT @KevinDJones: But in trad. training done poorly, all you have are lurkers – it was encouraged. #lrnchat
9:51:49 pm Schnicker: @KoreenOlbrish hello! :o ) lurking on lurking, ha.. love it #lrnchat
9:51:52 pm chet_stevenson: Regarding Social Media, How can you overcome an organizational fear of negative/shared input from customers? #lrnchat
9:51:59 pm dpeter: Qwrap) Dave Peter, Director Center for Teaching/Learning, Vincennes University, Indiana – GREAT chat tonight #lrnchat
9:52:12 pm trcuth: RT @KevinDJones: Trust is the currency of socializing – on or offline. #lrnchat
9:52:16 pm sillym0nkey: RT instructron: What methods encourage shy lurkers 2participate? Anonymous rating/commenting? YES &positive reinforcement #lrnchat
9:52:16 pm ajeanne: Some people don't have anything to say, so they lurk. Or, they are learning how to participate in a new venue, so they watch. #lrnchat
9:52:22 pm busynessgirl: I write a blog at http://teachingcollegemath.com (not just math, also ed tech, future of higher ed, and various musings) #lrnchat
9:52:30 pm ErickTaft: @instructron Provide them with a back channel like SoMe, or a hallway conversation. #lrnchat
9:52:31 pm krinhoh: RT @ThomasStone: I don't mind lots of lurkers. Afterall, SNs are not AA meetings, where everyone has to talk and tell their story. #lrnchat
9:52:35 pm Dave_Ferguson: In traditional training done poorly, you don't have lurkers; you have victims. #lrnchat
9:52:36 pm KevinDJones: @instructron To get lurkers talking think about how you would do it in real life… #lrnchat
9:52:42 pm sillym0nkey: RT instructron: What methods encourage shy lurkers to participate? no mean people allowed! #lrnchat
9:52:51 pm roninchef: @JaneBozarth I see what you did there. With that call back. Good, very good. #lrnchat
9:52:52 pm bschlenker: RT @mbogle: @wlonline I'm lurking right now :) #lrnchat << nuh uh! You just participated ;-)
9:52:54 pm dpeter: Thinking more about the value of participation in ANY SN or CoP – and what constitutes REAL participation #lrnchat
9:52:56 pm krinhoh: send 1 plsRT @dpeter: Qwrap) Dave Peter, Director Center for Teaching/Learning, Vincennes University, Indiana – GREAT chat tonight #lrnchat
9:53:00 pm ErickTaft: RT @Dave_Ferguson: In traditional training done poorly, you dont have lurkers; you have victims. #lrnchat
9:53:01 pm chrisstjohn: Chris St.John. Exec Dir Pres' Council of Inspectors Gen Training Acad. I love knowledge! #lrnchat
9:53:02 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, past-lurker, ISD for hire, Texas, recovering from #learntrends #lrnchat
9:53:09 pm tmiket: RT @Dave_Ferguson: In traditional training done poorly, you don't have lurkers; you have victims. #lrnchat
9:53:09 pm minutebio: Been great. Jeff, e-Learning Guy – Baltimore #lrnchat
9:53:12 pm espnguyen: @erickttaft Yeah, I guess a lurkers back channel is in person #lrnchat
9:53:15 pm lrnchat: RT @Dave_Ferguson: In traditional training done poorly, you don't have lurkers; you have victims. #lrnchat
9:53:21 pm urbie: in effective communication what's the ratio of talking to listening [lurking]? #lrnchat
9:53:22 pm gminks: & they only lurk in the classroom RT @Dave_Ferguson: In traditional training done poorly, you dont have lurkers; you have victims. #lrnchat
9:53:26 pm kasey428: RT @Dave_Ferguson: In traditional training done poorly, you dont have lurkers; you have victims. #lrnchat
9:53:38 pm mrch0mp3rs: #lrnchat Aaron Silvers, Chicago. Learning Strategist, straight outta #dl09 and coming at ya soon at #iitsec09
9:53:42 pm Dave_Ferguson: Dave Ferguson, Wash-DC area (lrnchat meetup week of 11/30); need to know more re org internal comm strategy. #lrnchat
9:53:44 pm ThomasStone: LOL RT @ajeanne: There are some people one might wish would lurk forever & never type a public word. :) #lrnchat
9:53:52 pm KevinDJones: @dpeter Real Participation is individualized – whatever works for that person #lrnchat
9:53:56 pm sillym0nkey: RT kasey428: RT @Dave_Ferguson: In traditional training done poorly, you dont have lurkers; you have victims. #lrnchat
9:54:05 pm urbie: urbie, id @ unlv http://bit.ly/4bxmWy #lrnchat
9:54:06 pm nancyrubin: Over and out in So Fla…see you on the beach tomorrow…virtually or in person :-) #lrnchat
9:54:09 pm KevinDJones: RT @tmiket: RT @Dave_Ferguson: In traditional training done poorly, you don't have lurkers; you have victims. #lrnchat
9:54:10 pm JaneBozarth: RDU, Pompatus of love & world's oldest Millenial. #lrnchat Next book, mid-2010 "Social Media in Training" http://bozarthzone.blogspot…
9:54:12 pm Mary_a_Myers: I'm Mary, in Kingston, knowledge worker, non-hoarder of knowledge, working for the weekend, and my smithwicks is almost done. #lrnchat
9:54:15 pm busynessgirl: RT @Dave_Ferguson: In traditional training done poorly, you dont have lurkers; you have victims. #lrnchat
9:54:15 pm planetrussell: Good, @kelly_smith01! Veni, Vidi, Latiti. – I came, I saw, I lurked. (Latito = I lay concealed.) #lrnchat
9:54:16 pm SuzNet: Lurking might be the introvert's approach to participation …but you always have to wonder about the quiet ones #lrnchat
9:54:17 pm dpontefract: Sometimes lurking is simply irregular participation – like me, here, now, due to 6, 4, & 2 year old & being on west coast time zone #lrnchat
9:54:18 pm ErickTaft: Qwrap) Erick, learning junkie. Northwest Arkansas. #lrnchat
9:54:21 pm dpeter: My blog – http://quality-instruction.blogspot.com/ #lrnchat
9:54:29 pm Dave_Ferguson: So if YOU are Wash-DC area & want to meet, let me know. (If you just want to lurk, bingo, you're already done) #lrnchat
9:54:31 pm joe_deegan: Joe Deegan, Instructional Design/eLearning Dev, SCORM Hater #lrnchat
9:54:33 pm bschlenker: @mrch0mp3rs Hey! Have YOU been lurking just to prove a point? #lrnchat
9:54:34 pm Bob_MacKie: Fire hose absorbing lurker signing off. BTW I still live with the guilt of talking a friend out of going to Woodstock. #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:54:44 pm krinhoh: Sorry. Recently laid off Learning Professional…believe educ is key 2 everything…amazed at our capacity if we could do it right #lrnchat
9:54:45 pm tmiket: Mike Taylor Learning developer & sometime lurker in Columbus OH please don't hate me @janebozarth 8-) #lrnchat
9:54:47 pm chrisstjohn: Is a classroom lurker the one who is asleep in the back? #lrnchat
9:54:47 pm quincyconley: RT @ValerieRoberts: RT @chrisstjohn: Next version of Outlook 2010 will auto display Twitter/FB personal info. http://bit.ly/uSSK8 #lrnchat
9:54:53 pm sillym0nkey: Mary_a_Myers: I'm Mary, in Kingston, knowledge worker, non-hoarder of knowledge, working for the weekend …Ha. #lrnchat
9:54:54 pm ValerieRoberts: RT @ajeanne: Some people don't have anything to say, so they lurk. Or, they are learning to participate in new venue, so they watch #lrnchat
9:54:55 pm JaneBozarth: @roninchef Thank you. It's a gift, really. #lrnchat
9:55:01 pm krinhoh: We have ALL lurked. :) RT @kelly_smith01: I have lurked. Good way to get and evaluate information or situation #lrnchat
9:55:02 pm roninchef: Good night all. Mason Masteka Elearning Dev in Portland, ME. Gotta go do some lurking. #lrnchat
9:55:05 pm ErickTaft: RT @krinhoh: But that's not bad…if it's info they need RT @ErickTaft The lurker taking the knowledge back to non-participant. #lrnchat
9:55:07 pm kellygarber: Qwrap – Kelly, freelance ISD, great chat tonight – thanks. If you need me, shout-I'll be lurking out there somewhere… #lrnchat
9:55:10 pm JoanVinallCox: Totally missed #lrnchat. Drat! Meep! Did, however, get the newsletter done for tomorrow so I can get to my app't and mark!
9:55:18 pm dpeter: @KevinDJones True, participation like education is a personal experience – learning is a one-on-one venture, a journey #lrnchat
9:55:20 pm mrch0mp3rs: @bschlenker The Beard doesn't even know how to lurk. #lrnchat
9:55:27 pm gminks: Gina, non-lurker type living outside Boston, working, grad school, next week VACAY!!! #lrnchat
9:55:36 pm bschlenker: RT @kasey428: RT @KevinDJones: Trust is the currency of socializing – on or offline. #lrnchat << nice! Now THATs a t-shirt!
9:55:43 pm chrisstjohn: Goona miss this years IITSEC. Darn. #lrnchat
9:55:44 pm kelly_smith01: My next book "lurkers in social media" #lrnchat
9:55:53 pm rmyardley: Enjoyed my first #lrnchat experience. Being Friday afternoon here in Melbourne I look forward to a drink this evening and then a great w/e.
9:56:00 pm espnguyen: Steve Nguyen, Mpls, a BIG GO BUCKEYES to all you OSU fans! BEAT MICHIGAN! Signing off to watch bball Bucks #lrnchat
9:56:02 pm krinhoh: and I'm in L.A. area #lrnchat
9:56:15 pm ajeanne: Jeanne Farrington, San Jose, CA… night night to lurkers and tweeters, all. #lrnchat
9:56:16 pm KoreenOlbrish: @mrch0mp3rs you just made me LAUGH OUT LOUD. Or The Beard did. #lrnchat
9:56:25 pm nancyrubin: I could never lurk… I have way to much to say…just ask me…or don't…isn't that what Twitter is all about. :-) #lrnchat
9:56:25 pm KevinDJones: @bschlenker Great idea!!!! #lrnchat
9:56:31 pm kelly_smith01: RT @bschlenker: RT @kasey428: RT @KevinDJones: Trust is the currency of socializing – on or offline. nice! Now THATs a t-shirt! #lrnchat
9:56:33 pm joe_deegan: RT @kelly_smith01: My next book "lurkers in social media" #lrnchat
9:56:35 pm krinhoh: @JoanVinallCox We talked about you. :) #lrnchat
9:56:39 pm kasey428: Kay Wood, Wash-DC area (lrnchat meetup week of 11/30), see @DaveFerguson, eh, tweet @DaveFerguson, Goodnight, all. #lrnchat
9:56:42 pm Schnicker: Nicole Fougere, New Zealand, Litmos (http://twurl.nl/8ctit0) Blogger girl… missing the buzz of #dl09 but lovin' #lrnchat :)
9:56:45 pm jkunrein: qwrap) Judy Unrein, instructional designer currently in Kansas City, shortform blogger at http://www.onehundredfortywords.com #lrnchat
9:56:49 pm ValerieRoberts: Valerie, ID in Phoenix #lrnchat
9:56:53 pm krinhoh: @ajeanne Night Jeanne #lrnchat
9:56:58 pm ThomasStone: Yes, you are a professional lollygagger (is that a word?) RT @Dave_Ferguson: I don't lurk so much as lollygag. #lrnchat
9:57:01 pm krinhoh: RT @KoreenOlbrish: @mrch0mp3rs you just made me LAUGH OUT LOUD. Or The Beard did. #lrnchat
9:57:01 pm jjjohnson01: QWrap) JJ Hi-Ed WA state.#lrnchat Caught only the end and had to lurk for a few.~
9:57:02 pm chrisstjohn: RT @Tanya_J90: I still live with the guilt of talking a friend out of going to Woodstock. (THAT'S serious guilt!) #lrnchat
9:57:21 pm mrch0mp3rs: @KoreenOlbrish now imagine The Beard is a llama. Good. #lrnchat
9:57:23 pm KoreenOlbrish: Koreen Olbrish, Phillyish, learner, gamer, entrepreneur, writer, need to be a better blogger, rarely a lurker #lrnchat
9:57:36 pm SueSchnorr: , Rochester, NY, freelance instructional designer and rarely a lurker… thanks for the chat, have a good week! #lrnchat
9:57:54 pm kelly_smith01: night lurkers #lrnchat
9:57:57 pm JaneBozarth: RT @mrch0mp3rs: @bschlenker The Beard doesnt even know how to lurk. #lrnchat
9:57:59 pm KevinDJones: RT @mrch0mp3rs: @KoreenOlbrish now imagine The Beard is a llama. Good. #lrnchat HA!
9:58:18 pm JaneBozarth: RT @mrch0mp3rs: @KoreenOlbrish now imagine The Beard is a llama. Good. #lrnchat
9:58:19 pm jadekaz: qwrap) Jade – training developer from Milwaukee. CoPs, stories, imagery are on my radar right now. #lrnchat
9:58:33 pm kasey428: RT @kelly_smith01: My next book “lurkers in social media” #lrnchat
9:58:58 pm ethang: FYI there’s an Colorado EduIsland Open House at 10:30am MST tomorrow, my first foray into second life #lrnchat #edchat
9:59:07 pm allonsdanser: So! I learned lots tonight by mostly lurking through the entire #lrnchat session. I’ll be back….
9:59:16 pm espnguyen: @mrch0mp3rs No way that beard is lurking ANYWHERE. We can hear that thing coming! #lrnchat
9:59:17 pm busynessgirl: Glad my Broadband2Go got me through #lrnchat. Now back to life without Internet. Where is broadband for all? #lrnchat
9:59:21 pm lrnchat: Thank you for joining us on #lrnchat. Pls remember to submit Qs & theme ideas for upcoming chats at http://sn.im/lrnchat. See u next week!
9:59:46 pm kasey428: RT @moehlert: @kasey428 But compliance is a threshold not a ceiling right? #lrnchat> yes.
9:59:50 pm chrisstjohn: RT @KoreenOlbrish now imagine The Beard is a llama. (Llama no. Lama yes. There’s wisdom/philosophy in that Beard.) #lrnchat
9:59:53 pm planetrussell: ♫ So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, goodnight, #lrnchat: http://tr.im/solong
9:59:55 pm ThomasStone: Tom Stone, from Element K in Rochester NY. Rarely a lurker, as my colleagues can attest! Great conversation tonight all! #lrnchat
10:00:06 pm krinhoh: and I see a multi-volume set of lurking tomes. Go, y’all! #lrnchat
10:00:13 pm kelly_smith01: Imagine the lurker is a llama #lrnchat
10:00:18 pm marciamarcia: If you participate in #lrnchat & I *still* haven’t added you to http://sn.im/lrnchat-list pls @ or DM me.
10:00:26 pm krinhoh: This was spectacular. You’ll never get rid of me now. xoxox #lrnchat
10:00:28 pm busynessgirl: @lrnchat Possible topic: How to make learning through games less scary / more palatable. #lrnchat
10:00:34 pm sillym0nkey: Deborah Thomas of game-based learning geek -ATL signing off – will think on the wisdome from tonite and chuckle #lrnchat
10:00:41 pm ThomasStone: And a big hello to those I didn’t say “hi” to earlier… Kevin, Brent, Tracy, and Sue x 2 #lrnchat
10:00:54 pm Dave_Ferguson: @ThomasStone Sometimes I lollygag. Sometimes I gallivant. Comedy, love, a bit with a dog — that’s what they want. #lrnchat
10:00:59 pm mrch0mp3rs: @espnguyen lol. Subtlety ain’t its bag. #lrnchat
10:01:02 pm espnguyen: @ThomasStone Is the recording of your webinar from this week available? #lrnchat
10:01:26 pm bschlenker: Brent Schlenker – AZ – needing a @mrch0mp3rs hug – miss you AND The Beard! – help me find speakers for #dl10 #lrnchat
10:01:43 pm mrch0mp3rs: @chrisstjohn @koreenolbrish that’s quite a compliment. #lrnchat
10:02:07 pm krinhoh: @marciamarcia i’m guessing i’m not on there, marcia! #lrnchat
10:02:31 pm KevinDJones: Fun gabb’n with you all. – KJ, Father of 7, husband of 1. Taking NASA into the E2.0 world kicking & screaming – with love #lrnchat
10:02:32 pm lrnchat: Thanks for joining us, participants and lurkers alike. #lrnchat
10:02:49 pm allonsdanser: @kpett Been participating in #lrnchat. IDT tweet session. Pretty cool. How’s life? Semester’s almost over. Tired.
10:03:02 pm mrch0mp3rs: @bschlenker count me in. I’ll run a disruption boot camp. #lrnchat. Only requirement: lunch and bio breaks.
10:03:13 pm chrisstjohn: Good nite all. The dawg needs to go out. He senses when I have had enough.. #lrnchat
10:03:26 pm krinhoh: a spitting llama? RT @kelly_smith01: Imagine the lurker is a llama #lrnchat
10:03:44 pm allonsdanser: @JaneBozarth Thank you. I enjoyed my first #lrnchat. Does anyone compile the tweets?
10:03:52 pm krinhoh: @planetrussell Are you dancing on your way out? #lrnchat
10:03:55 pm bschlenker: RT @mrch0mp3rs: @KoreenOlbrish now imagine The Beard is a llama. Good. #lrnchat << okay – I just blew Guinness out my nose! LOL!
10:04:12 pm ThomasStone: Will be very soon. RT @espnguyen: @ThomasStone Is the recording of your webinar from this week available? #lrnchat
10:04:30 pm mrch0mp3rs: I dont know where this is going but im there. RT @kelly_smith01: Imagine the lurker is a llama #lrnchat
10:04:31 pm krinhoh: Thx back! C ya next week! RT @lrnchat: Thanks for joining us, participants and lurkers alike. #lrnchat

Transcript 12 Nov 2009

November 13, 2009 by Marcia Conner

8:30 pm lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been? Q0 warm up after the rules.
8:30 pm JaneBozarth: @TerrenceWing Spelling is harder w/ people watching #lrnchat
8:30 pm dwilkinsnh: I think it’s sweet that so many of you all notify your followers of the flood of emails from lrnchat. I like to shock them… ; ) #lrnchat
8:30 pm kelly_smith01: @briandusablon Isn’t @moehlert. leading an ongoing session? #lrnchat
8:31 pm ranig2u: let the games begin…. #lrnchat
8:31 pm Schnicker: Hey im in the middle there! :) RT @visualrinse: #lrnchat – picture of DemoFest – say cheese! http://twitpic.com/panb6
8:31 pm lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1) Introduce yourself. (We do this again at the end). Location? Focus? Fave topics?
8:31 pm dwilkinsnh: Wish I could have been at DevLearn this year — just too much travel lately. And a whole of sick family : ( #lrnchat
8:31 pm kelly_smith01: @JaneBozarth Yeah that’s a good excuse for me with my speliling #lrnchat
8:31 pm written_in_sand: following along on #lrnchat
8:32 pm Quinnovator: welcome, familiar and new #lrnchat participants!
8:32 pm lrnchat: 2) [try to] stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 20 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
8:32 pm mpetersell: Intro: Mike from Connecticut Love Instructional Design, Management Development; essentially have no life! #lrnchat
8:32 pm startup_school: Hi :) – I am Bjoern – working with @Steli on Supercool School for individuals http://bit.ly/2wCd0k and corp http://bit.ly/4oUWxU #lrnchat
8:32 pm JaneBozarth: Jane, more or less living at RDU. ID/Trainer/Author. Love learnin’ stuff. World’s oldest Millenial. #lrnchat
8:33 pm gps03: Greg Sweet, Albany NY, CBRNE preparedness and response, synchronous learning, social media #lrnchat
8:33 pm TerrenceWing: Terrence Wing -Los Angeles via San Jose Devlearn – Leadership and Management Development – All topics favorite #lrnchat
8:33 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat Kae form Colorado – learner engagement, immersive environments, virtual worlds, and serious games
8:33 pm insynctraining: My first time in #lrnchat. Be gentle…
8:33 pm bjoernlasse: Hi :) – I am Bjoern – working with @Steli on Supercool School for individuals http://bit.ly/2wCd0k and corp http://bit.ly/4oUWxU #lrnchat
8:33 pm lrnchat: 3) When writing, complete thoughts help followers outside chat learn from you. 4) on #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm, welcome tho.
8:33 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith ISD in waiting – Just-In-Time Learning Social Media as Learnin’ tool somewhere in Texas #lrnchat
8:33 pm AlwaysBreaking: Looking for @badsquare at #dl09 #lrnchat. Anyone seen him?
8:33 pm mpetersell: @insynctraining welcome to the madness; you’ll have a great time! #lrnchat
8:33 pm TerrenceWing: @insynctraining WELCOME #lrnchat
8:33 pm urbie: intro: urbie, instructional designer @ unlv – elearning for corp., higher-ed, & k-12. doctoral student. http://www.urbie.com #lrnchat/
8:33 pm gminks: Gina, outside Boston, tech training developer, ISD grad student, member of the #ld09NOT army :) #lrnchat
8:34 pm allisunelearns: Hello #lrnchat, Allisun from Arcata, CA Long-time Moodler & lover of everything eLearning, especially interested in games atm. #lrnchat
8:34 pm espnguyen: @brentschlenker is trying to get all the lrnchatters at #dl09 together for a group pic. Meet in the middle of the ballroom #lrnchat
8:34 pm JoanVinallCox: JoanVinallCox from Oakville ON, love social media, think it’s changing the way we humans think, want to teach how it’s affecting us #lrnchat
8:34 pm jonll: #lrnchat – expect great discussions around #dl09 and remembering #L2009
8:34 pm insynctraining: Q0: Specialty: training trainers to do better than just ?webinars?. Do lots of work w/ @janebozarth! #lrnchat
8:34 pm lrnchat: 5) Periodically RT questions so others outside #lrnchat know what you?re talking about so they can chime in.
8:34 pm lyford: Howdy! I am Lyford – working in K12 private education in San Diego. Part of the SDSU EdTec Master’s progam #lrnchat
8:34 pm dwilkinsnh: David Wilkins, itinerant farm worker, lover of all things soc media, and (full disclosure) Exec Dir of Prod Marketing at Learn.com #lrnchat
8:34 pm kelly_smith01: Group photo at 10 Est 9 CST and 7 PST #lrnchat
8:34 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, Walnut Creek CA, learning experience design afficionado, consultant to enlightened firms, #lrnchat troublemaker #lrnchat
8:35 pm gminks: ok I’m participating in #lrnchat, listening to @downes, and writing a mind map for school. I am crazy crazy.
8:35 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat #Educause09 had over 7500 tweets with their conference last wk – how are you doing at #dl09 so far?
8:35 pm kellygarber: Kelly, virtually everywhere, literally Florida. Freelance ISD. #lrnchat
8:35 pm sahana2802: Sahana, ID India, started as classroom teacher,then virtual trainer for adult learners of EFL, now ID; interested in SoME, learning #lrnchat
8:35 pm JaneBozarth: @insynctraining Welcome! #lrnchat
8:35 pm kay_lehmann: Hi #lrnchat Kay from Walla Walla, WA online professor and author, interested in eLearning and mLearning
8:35 pm ranig2u: corporate learning, living in Palo Alto, blog/visual learn/games #lrnchat
8:35 pm jilliant: Jillian in Vermont – eLearning, content dev and learning strategist – checking in for #lrnchat
8:35 pm JaneBozarth: @gminks yes you are are #lrnchat
8:35 pm lrnchat: 6) Remember to include the #lrnchat in all posts. http://tweetchat.com, http://tweetgrid.com & http://twubs.com/lrnchat work well.
8:35 pm nancyrubin: Nancy R., South Florida, eLearning, ID, ISD, social media, lifelong learner #lrnchat
8:35 pm kelly_smith01: A mind map is a terrible thing to waist #lrnchat
8:36 pm gminks: @dwilkinsnh are you still speaking next week at ASTD Boston? #lrnchat
8:36 pm JaneBozarth: Didn’t know the #dl09 people were coming tonight. Made up a game called “Pin the Drink on @Quinnovator” #lrnchat
8:36 pm JffZllr: Jeff Zoller – Learning Developer, Columbus OH #lrnchat
8:36 pm lrnchat: 7) 10 min before end, tell us if you need anything from the other #lrnchat participants. Time to reintroduce yourself, too. Links welcome.
8:36 pm _jude: Jude from Cambridge, MA. Learning for health professionals in the developing world. #lrnchat
8:36 pm dbolen: Don Bolen, ATL PM and learning strategist missed the last 6 #lrnchat due to travel #lrnchat
8:37 pm Quinnovator: @gminks overachiever; I’m only watching 49er/Bears game and participating in #lrnchat
8:37 pm allisunelearns: Hi Kay! Glad to finally see someone else from CSUEB here : ) #lrnchat
8:37 pm ajeanne: Warning… lotsa tweets may be coming from #lrnchat.
8:37 pm jadekaz: Jade Kazmierski – training developer, Milwaukee, Boise IPT student #lrnchat
8:37 pm dwilkinsnh: @gminks Yes, still on schedule. Then off to London to speak at HRO Summit at some posh posh hotel… ; ) #lrnchat
8:37:33 pm lrnchat: 8) Please RT important points & vital questions asked for clarification, so we don’t miss them amid the lively fast-paced #lrnchat
8:37:45 pm startup_school: @sahana2802 cool – I would really like to hear your feedback on our product for individuals http://bit.ly/4srM3m it launches mon #lrnchat
8:37:56 pm rec54: Richard Culatta – Learning Innovator, Washington DC #lrnchat #dl09
8:37:57 pm ValerieRoberts: I’m Valerie – Sr. Instructional Designer in Phoenix, interest in social media #lrnchat
8:37:57 pm gwoodill: Gary Woodill – Brandon Hall Research. First time in. #lrnchat
8:38:03 pm pedepede2: Natalie in Sydney. Will soon be at Fri BBQ lunch, but will return-want 2 know strategies 4 developing comms & participation w/ SoMe #lrnchat
8:38:06 pm kelly_smith01: Watching Dial M for Murder & Lrnchat tweeting #lrnchat
8:38:08 pm Schnicker: Nicole Fougere, at #dl09 from Auckland, New Zealand. Blogger for web-based LMS Litmos #lrnchat *excited* :)
8:38:16 pm chrisstjohn: 5-4-3-2-1 Nearly time for the worlds LARGEST lrnchat!! #lrnchat #dl09
8:38:21 pm neillasher: RT @neillasher: Addie addie addie. Oy oy oy. Where is the bar! In case you missed it firdt time! Lol. #lrnchat
8:38:22 pm lrnchat: Q0 (our weekly #lrnchat welcome, also check out @lrn2day) What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
8:38:28 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth sounds better than pour a drink on me #lrnchat
8:38:31 pm espnguyen: Let’s make #lrnchat a trending topic tonight!
8:38:38 pm JaneBozarth: @gwoodill Hey good to see you here! #lrnchat
8:38:40 pm gminks: @dwilkinsnh fancy! :) #lrnchat
8:38:46 pm amandachetwynd: RT @Schnicker: Nicole Fougere, at #dl09 from Auckland, New Zealand. Blogger for web-based LMS Litmos #lrnchat *excited* :)
8:38:51 pm reward75: Regina Ward, NYC, currently focusing on knowledge sharing #lrnchat
8:38:53 pm kelly_smith01: RT @gwoodill: Gary Woodill – Brandon Hall Research. First time in. (like your webinars) #lrnchat
8:38:54 pm KoreenOlbrish: Looks like they gave up our #lrnchat space for a bar at demo fest. Fair trade :) #dl09
8:38:55 pm dwilkinsnh: I learned today that you can’t really overcook a pot roast. An extra hour just means extra tender… so delicious… #lrnchat
8:38:56 pm Mary_a_Myers: Mary Myers live from #dl09 instructional designer, lover of conferences #lrnchat
8:38:59 pm gwoodill: In the 1960s, we called this a “happening”…. #lrnchat
8:39:15 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @JaneBozarth: @gwoodill Hey good to see you here! #lrnchat
8:39:15 pm TerrenceWing: @JaneBozarth That’s why I have spell check. Thank goodness. #lrnchat
8:39:24 pm JaneBozarth: Q0 Learning a lot from Stephen King’s “On Writing” #lrnchat
8:39:32 pm ranig2u: Q0) learned that keynote has better animations than PPT #lrnchat
8:39:35 pm ajeanne: Jeanne Farrington, J. Farrington Consulting, from San Jose, CA. Learning, management, & performance improvement consulting. #lrnchat
8:39:42 pm mpetersell: Q0 – Today I learned that my staff appreciates my open honest communication – warts and all #lrnchat
8:39:48 pm espnguyen: Steve Nguyen, from Mpls, Tech Lead and realizing I’m a big dork. #lrnchat
8:40:00 pm kelly_smith01: Re-reading Marc Rosenberg and Blended Learning knowledge management formal and informal learning #lrnchat
8:40:08 pm dbolen: @gwoodill I’ve read about that ;) #lrnchat
8:40:08 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q0 (weekly #lrnchat welcome, also check out @lrn2day) What have you learned today? If nothing fab what learned this week?
8:40:14 pm SueSchnorr: Putting finishing touches on surprise video for my sister’s 50th birthday and #lrnchat tweeting
8:40:16 pm chambo_online: Going to be at #lrnchat for awhile – please excuse voluminous tweeting for the next hour or so.
8:40:24 pm gwoodill: @kelly_smith01 @janebozarth Thanks for the welcome, Jane and Kelly. #lrnchat
8:40:28 pm ajeanne: I learned today that it’s safer to fax your credit card info than to send it in a .pdf via email. #lrnchat
8:40:28 pm allisunelearns: Q0) I learned today that LMS RFP’s produce the most head-scratching, confusing material I’ve ever seen. #lrnchat
8:40:32 pm kelly_smith01: @espnguyen We are all dorks here #lrnchat
8:40:32 pm marksylvester: Mark Sylvester bummed to not be at #dl09, just back from #L2009 and ready to rumble #lrnchat
8:40:37 pm richchetwynd: Rich Chetwynd – Geek at Litmos. Missed #dl09 this yr :-( First time in #lrnchat -> Hello!
8:40:44 pm nancyrubin: learned that I want to know more about pechu kucha #lrnchat
8:40:47 pm JoanVinallCox: @JaneBozarth “Misery” illustrates what he wrote in “On Writing” #lrnchat
8:40:47 pm jonll: #lrnchat would love to hear one word descriptions of #dl09, what’s going on in SanJose?!
8:40:52 pm mpetersell: @espnguyen this is dork heaven; you are in the right place #lrnchat
8:40:52 pm badsquare: RT @Schnicker Nicole Fougere, at #dl09 from Auckland, New Zealand. Blogger for web-based LMS Litmos #lrnchat *excited* :)
8:41:03 pm ranig2u: @ajeanne – ouch! #lrnchat
8:41:15 pm alexismac: About to do some extra tweeting for #lrnchat Alexis MacMillan creator of interactive media, eLearning
8:41:20 pm gminks: today I learned that sometimes you have to go back to basics (a full disk will impact application performance doh!) #lrnchat
8:41:29 pm gwoodill: I learned the names of some Russian LMSs. Had to answer a question… #lrnchat
8:41:29 pm ajeanne: I’ll bet! RT @allisunelearns: Q0) I learned today that LMS RFPs produce the most head-scratching, confusing material Ive ever seen. #lrnchat
8:41:30 pm espnguyen: @kelly_smith01 That’s why I’ve felt so at home at #dl09 and #lrnchat
8:41:33 pm JaneBozarth: RT @kelly_smith01: @espnguyen We are all dorks here #lrnchat
8:41:51 pm TerrenceWing: @KoreenOlbrish We’re up front near the stage. Still space #lrnchat
8:41:52 pm JaneBozarth: @JoanVinallCox Yes he said that. He’s the writer…cocaine was the crazy nurse #lrnchat
8:41:55 pm Mary_a_Myers: I learned too much today to even summarize here. #dl09 has been fab. Key note re: games and play was a highlight for sure. #lrnchat
8:42:04 pm pedepede2: Q0) remember IT support for new ideas #lrnchat
8:42:07 pm gminks: yay dorks!! RT @JaneBozarth: RT @kelly_smith01: @espnguyen We are all dorks here #lrnchat
8:42:10 pm mpetersell: @ajeanne LMS – that just means you are doing it right! #lrnchat
8:42:11 pm chambo_online: Lisa Chamberlin, freelance online instructor. Today I learned a nor’easter can dump as much rain as a hurricane in my backyard. #lrnchat
8:42:11 pm richchetwynd: RT @mpetersell: @espnguyen this is dork heaven; you are in the right place #lrnchat
8:42:15 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat learned 2 develop quick rapport with 11th graders – ask if they have ever helped adult on a computer, you become comrades in arms.
8:42:15 pm ajeanne: It’s okay @ranig2u–I didn’t learn the hard way. :) #lrnchat
8:42:18 pm kay_lehmann: Q0 #lrnchat learned today a little about Google Wave, just got my first invite, much more to learn though
8:42:18 pm jadekaz: Q0 learned that we still don’t know much about short/long term memory #lrnchat
8:42:23 pm kellygarber: Q0 – learned that not all the green tea bags in the cupboard are decaffeinated #lrnchat
8:42:38 pm ajeanne: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @kelly_smith01: @espnguyen We are all dorks here #lrnchat
8:42:50 pm dwilkinsnh: @ajeanne I learned that the RFP’s themselves produce a heck of a lot of head scratching… #lrnchat
8:42:51 pm urbie: learned that it’s gonna take a whole lot of networking for me to find an ISD job back home [phoenix metro].. #lrnchat/
8:42:52 pm kelly_smith01: We need LRNCHAT dork gear – pocket pen holder, special tool kit w/lrnchat logo #lrnchat
8:42:55 pm chrisstjohn: One word description of DL09? ENGAGING #lrnchat #dl09
8:43:02 pm reward75: I second that! RT @allisunelearns I learned today that LMS RFPs produce the most head-scratching, confusing material Ive ever seen. #lrnchat
8:43:18 pm Quinnovator: learned that mobile is picking up steam #lrnchat
8:43:26 pm SueSchnorr: I learned that I must be more patient w. people who waste my time losing emails and continually asking me to resend…#lrnchat #lrnchat
8:43:32 pm jadekaz: Q0 learned about a crazy MIT invention that could change how we interact digitally #lrnchat
8:43:34 pm chambo_online: @kay_lehmann Using Tweetchat? Makes #lrnchat a lot easier! #lrnchat
8:43:41 pm Quinnovator: don’t forget the official #lrnchat drinking game: http://lrnchatdrinkinggame.wikispaces.com/
8:43:41 pm JaneBozarth: THe recaps coming out of #dl09 are great, btw. Take a look if you haven’t seen them #lrnchat
8:43:44 pm bjoernlasse: @ajeanne what is LMS RFPs? #lrnchat
8:43:48 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: learned that mobile is picking up steam –> Coool…. #lrnchat
8:43:58 pm dwilkinsnh: My wife just turned on Family Guy. This is why we’ll be together forever… #lrnchat
8:44:20 pm marciamarcia: Marcia Conner, #lrnchat founder, obsessively curious, social media explorer, writing a book on learning socially at work.
8:44:23 pm ajeanne: @Quinnovator Oh, are we supposed to be drinking? Hmmm, I’m blowing it. #lrnchat
8:44:25 pm gwoodill: @Quinnovator What are the indicators of mobile learning picking up steam? #lrnchat
8:44:26 pm JaneBozarth: Also learned that you really can’t explain the Gubmint work experience to others. They must live it to understand. #lrnchat
8:44:36 pm gps03: I just learned there’s an official #lrnchat drinking game! #lrnchat
8:44:43 pm kelly_smith01: @JaneBozarth Yes thanks to all the Siskel and Eberts providing reviews and feedback on #dl09 #lrnchat
8:44:53 pm pedepede2: @jadekaz what’s the crazy MIT invention? #lrnchat
8:44:55 pm ronindotca: Cameron campbell, walking through beautiful downtown Dunedin new Zealand doing some xtreme mulittasking. #lrnchat ( pls to not hit me car)
8:44:58 pm ajeanne: @bjoernlasse LMS = Learning Management System; RFP = Request for Proposal #lrnchat
8:44:58 pm reward75: You don’t want to know :’( RT @bjoernlasse: @ajeanne what is LMS RFPs? #lrnchat
8:45:03 pm carmean: Late. Pulled myself away from DemoFest at #dl09. Colleen Carmean. Phoenix. Dreamer, designer, tired introvert today. #lrnchat
8:45:04 pm chambo_online: Procrastinating correcting essays for #lrnchat…I *heart* #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:45:17 pm JaneBozarth: …and I’m writing book on incorporating SoMe into training #lrnchat
8:45:29 pm alexismac: This week I’ve really been learning how important collaboration is – even with your potential competitors! #lrnchat
8:45:36 pm lrnchat: Q1) What questions do you hear at work that make you nervous to pitch social media as part of your education approach? #lrnchat
8:45:41 pm ranig2u: i learned that Microsoft is actually doing cool mobile learning #lrnchat
8:45:57 pm gps03: RT @JaneBozarth: Also learned that you really cant explain the Gubmint work experience to others. They must live it to understand. #lrnchat
8:45:57 pm JoanVinallCox: Read Toronto Star’s series on Neuroscience & ed – learned http://bit.ly/2JtnxH #lrnchat
8:45:57 pm Schnicker: I learned that I’m one among many geeks, and that’s OK :) #lrnchat
8:46:05 pm kellygarber: now that I need everything to be bigger, learners want it smaller…RT @Quinnovator: learned that mobile is picking up steam #lrnchat
8:46:07 pm gminks: I also learned I am not the only one who couldn’t go to #dl09 #dl09not #lrnchat
8:46:09 pm sahana2802: RT @JaneBozarth …and I’m writing book on incorporating SoMe into training #lrnchat Hoping to read it soon.
8:46:15 pm allisunelearns: @marciamarcia Q0) I also learned today about the great resources you’ve written over at agelesslearner.com : ) #lrnchat
8:46:15 pm written_in_sand: One word: Jealous. Didn’t get to attend #dlo9 #lrnchat
8:46:19 pm mpetersell: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What questions do you hear at work that make you nervous to pitch social media as part of your education approach? #lrnchat
8:46:27 pm jonll: @bjoernlasse #L2009 “request for proposal” – collection of requirements for the vendors to submit why they rock #lrnchat
8:46:28 pm jadekaz: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What questions do you hear at work that make you nervous to pitch social media as part of your education approach? #lrnchat
8:46:29 pm gminks: Q1: how do you measure it #lrnchat
8:46:29 pm ranig2u: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What questions do you hear at work that make you nervous to pitch social media as part of your education approach? #lrnchat
8:46:34 pm ValerieRoberts: Q0 Learned that even w/ a process, something can still grind to a halt when the person who normally does it is not around #lrnchat
8:46:36 pm JaneBozarth: @sahana2802 Summer 2010! #lrnchat
8:46:41 pm mpetersell: Q1 – How do you measure its impact? What is the RO!? #lrnchat
8:46:43 pm TerrenceWing: @ronindotca Did you meet @shnicker She hails from your neck of the woods #lrnchat
8:46:44 pm Quinnovator: @ajeanne well, yes, you should be drinking, on principle, but particularly when we tweet things like ADDIE #lrnchat
8:46:49 pm JffZllr: Q0 – sometimes it’s better to pick up the phone… #lrnchat
8:46:51 pm sahana2802: RT @lrnchat Q1) What questions do you hear at work that make you nervous to pitch social media as part of your education approach? #lrnchat
8:46:53 pm Mary_a_Myers: Q1 people can’t see the potential, and sometimes find it hard to convince. seen as big time waster #lrnchat
8:46:53 pm chambo_online: Q1) From fellow educators: Why would you use Twitter…isn’t it it just for fans of celebrities? #lrnchat
8:46:58 pm jadekaz: Q1 what is twitter? what is facebook? what is linkedin? #lrnchat
8:46:58 pm gminks: me too! RT @sahana2802: RT @JaneBozarth …and Im writing book on incorporating SoMe into training #lrnchat Hoping to read it soon. #lrnchat
8:46:58 pm JaneBozarth: @gps03 Learning by doing, you know. #lrnchat
8:47:01 pm dwilkinsnh: Q1) What questions do you hear at work that make you nervous to pitch social media as part of your education approach? #lrnchat
8:47:01 pm ajeanne: I’m working on bringing remote learners to traditional classroom activities. Some are so interactive. Challenging in a good way. #lrnchat
8:47:08 pm espnguyen: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What questions do you hear at work that make you nervous to pitch social media as part of your education approach? #lrnchat
8:47:09 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Social media is a security and/or bandwidth issue #lrnchat
8:47:14 pm gminks: @JaneBozarth are you going to do a book tour?? #lrnchat
8:47:14 pm Mary_a_Myers: fear of rogues #lrnchat
8:47:15 pm marksylvester: Re Q1 – heard that the word ’social’ is the first thing to not say when pitching to management #lrnchat
8:47:16 pm Quinnovator: @gwoodill more mobile sessions with very good attendance #lrnchat
8:47:21 pm bjoernlasse: @jonll @ajeanne ok :) thx #lrnchat
8:47:23 pm tmiket: Me too! RT @written_in_sand: One word: Jealous. Didn’t get to attend #dlo9 #lrnchat
8:47:24 pm SueSchnorr: Q1 What is it? and no, I’m not kidding. #lrnchat
8:47:29 pm marciamarcia: I learned my brother is staying w/us tonight & tomorrow night — and that the guest room was more frenetic that #lrnchat
8:47:30 pm alexismac: I did an ID talk last month (how not to make learners angry and go away), and was called out for using of some #lrnchat drinking terms.
8:47:31 pm pedepede2: Q1) Isn’t twitter a waste of time? I’ve got too much to do as it is. #lrnchat
8:47:32 pm ranig2u: Q1 – “Why do we need e-anything?” #lrnchat
8:47:32 pm gps03: Q1: Has security approved it? #lrnchat
8:47:34 pm JaneBozarth: RT Q1) What questions do you hear at work that make you nervous to pitch social media as part of your education approach? #lrnchat
8:47:34 pm ajeanne: @Quinnovator Excuse me, are we not in love with ADDIE? She’s such a great gal!! #lrnchat
8:47:36 pm carmean: ADDIE? I sip my vodka tonic. thnx, @quinnovator! #lrnchat
8:47:41 pm nancyrubin: Q1) Hard to implement and support on enterprise level #lrnchat
8:47:43 pm chrisstjohn: As soon as you say “social” media, the doors slam shut. The unknowing become the “not doing” it. #lrnchat
8:47:44 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What questions do you hear at work that make you nervous to pitch social media as part of your education approach? #lrnchat
8:47:46 pm TerrenceWing: Security, Security, Security…. #lrnchat
8:47:58 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat need to run that past marketing, legal, human resources ………
8:47:59 pm JffZllr: Q1) Negatively impacts productivity… #lrnchat
8:48:02 pm minutebio: Q1 “We can’t control it. Anybody can say anything” #lrnchat
8:48:03 pm dbolen: Q1 isn’t this a big time waster? #lrnchat
8:48:06 pm alexismac: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What questions do you hear at work that make you nervous to pitch social media as part of your education approach? #lrnchat
8:48:10 pm tjmeister: Trevor Meister Edmonton, soon to be official e-learning developer, long time Virtual World Explorer #lrnchat
8:48:12 pm RobRobertson: Q1) What if someone says something inappropriate? (I will be referring them to McAfee) #lrnchat
8:48:12 pm tjmeister: #lrnchat
8:48:15 pm gminks: RT @jadekaz: Q1 what is twitter? what is facebook? what is linkedin? #lrnchat
8:48:16 pm atsc: Q0) I learned that black fridays don’t always happen… #lrnchat
8:48:31 pm reward75: Q1) I hear “What is [insert any social media]?” #lrnchat
8:48:35 pm gminks: RT @JffZllr: Q1) Negatively impacts productivity… #lrnchat
8:48:39 pm minutebio: IT won’t go for it #lrnchat
8:48:42 pm carmean: Q1: “People will waste time and productivity with social media.” How do we disprove without trying? #lrnchat
8:48:49 pm kelly_smith01: Access to social media creates a more engaged workforce. http://bit.ly/31M8IX (Harvard Buss.) #lrnchat
8:48:54 pm jadekaz: Exactly. RT @gps03: Q1: Has security approved it? #lrnchat
8:48:55 pm mpetersell: Q1 – Won’t the competition get ahold of our “secrets” if we use social media? #lrnchat
8:48:59 pm espnguyen: Q1 “Twitter is blocked because stuff on Twitter can be found on un-blocked websites” #lrnchat
8:49:00 pm dwilkinsnh: Q1) Won’t they just socialize like on Facebook? #lrnchat
8:49:08 pm chambo_online: Q1) What is social media? #lrnchat
8:49:11 pm ranig2u: RT @RobRobertson: Q1) What if someone says something inappropriate? (I will be referring them to McAfee) #lrnchat
8:49:15 pm marciamarcia: @allisunelearns Thx for agelesslearner.com plug. This winter moving content elsewhere but will provide pointers. #lrnchat
8:49:18 pm tmiket: Q1 What is people put out ‘wrong/incorrect information? #lrnchat
8:49:18 pm kellygarber: Q1 – “can’t we save a lot of time by just giving them the information they need?” #lrnchat
8:49:19 pm Quinnovator: Q1: “what, talk about mistakes?”, “share? you can’t share here, you’ll be eviscerated”, “won’t I lose my job?” #lrnchat
8:49:19 pm ajeanne: Q1 Who wants to read about people’s trivial little sayings? What a waste of time! #lrnchat
8:49:23 pm pedepede2: Q1) Your managers should be giving you everything you need. Why do you need to talk to each other? #lrnchat
8:49:23 pm TerrenceWing: “We don’t need social we need people to work” – That would make me hesitant. #lrnchat
8:49:27 pm gps03: RT @RobRobertson: Q1) What if someone says something inappropriate? hear this all the time! #lrnchat
8:49:42 pm alexismac: Q1) Why do I want to know what someone ate for breakfast? #lrnchat
8:49:47 pm urbie: @chrisstjohn that’s odd considering that old-time technologies like newspapers, radio, n tv are prime examples of social media #lrnchat
8:49:51 pm Schnicker: @TeamBuildingNY well I’m here at #devlearn09 geeking out with hundreds of learning ppl on #lrnchat :) #dl09
8:49:54 pm tjmeister: I started exploring Unity3D as a Multi-user Environment along with Unreal 3 SDK, both released just recently for free… #lrnchat
8:49:55 pm dwilkinsnh: Q1) Lack of awareness of any successes from other companies that have already started down that path #lrnchat
8:49:56 pm JaneBozarth: 1/2 @chrisstjohn McAfee said at #dl09 :Social word not helpful.Has neutral/negative connotations to business types. #lrnchat
8:49:58 pm gminks: RT @kelly_smith01: Access to social media creates a more engaged workforce. http://bit.ly/31M8IX (Harvard Buss.) #lrnchat
8:49:59 pm Quinnovator: Q1: “if we want social, we’ll throw a party. Heck, they waste enough time on the phone and email!” #lrnchat
8:49:59 pm tmiket: Q1 Why do I care what someone had for lunch? #lrnchat
8:49:59 pm jadekaz: Q1 Why do you want to talk to strangers? Why do you want to use a computer after work? #lrnchat
8:50:03 pm TerrenceWing: HR issues may be a concern. Isn’t it like myspace? #lrnchat
8:50:08 pm nancyrubin: Q1 – too many choices – everyone doing their own thing instead of focused approach #lrnchat
8:50:11 pm eduinnovation: Q 1) Won’t we lose control and not be able to monitor what is being said about us? #lrnchat
8:50:16 pm JaneBozarth: 2/2 @chrisstjohn “Execs don’t want to make business more social. They want to make it more agile, lean, productive, etc. ” #lrnchat
8:50:17 pm ranig2u: RT @TerrenceWing: “We dont need social we need people to work” – That would make me hesitant. (kinda funny) #lrnchat
8:50:20 pm atsc: Q1) Will it work on the iPhone, Kindle… (whatever dvice they have) Or: I only want it if it works on the insert dvice name here #lrnchat
8:50:23 pm tmiket: RT @gminks: RT @kelly_smith01: Access to social media creates a more engaged workforce. http://bit.ly/31M8IX (Harvard Buss.) #lrnchat
8:50:23 pm kelly_smith01: No one ever says anything inappropriate in lrnchat #lrnchat
8:50:25 pm minutebio: That’s just another water cooler for people to gather around! #lrnchat
8:50:28 pm chrisstjohn: To repeat a Speaker earlier today at DL09, “Social media is like sex. If you are not doing it, you are not getting it.” #lrnchat
8:50:29 pm gwoodill: Last week I played an alternative reality game at mLearn2009 in Orlando. Great experience. #lrnchat
8:50:30 pm AlwaysBreaking: @briandusablon I think @moehlert finally collapsed. #lrnchat #dl09
8:50:41 pm mpetersell: RT @gminks: RT @kelly_smith01: Access to social media creates a more engaged workforce. http://bit.ly/31M8IX (Harvard Buss.) – cool #lrnchat
8:50:48 pm tmiket: Q1 What’s the ROI? #lrnchat
8:50:52 pm marciamarcia: “share? you can’t share here, you’ll be eviscerated” RT @Quinnovator WOW. Eviscerated?! #whynotSM #lrnchat
8:50:56 pm jadekaz: Good one! :) RT @alexismac: Q1) Why do I want to know what someone ate for breakfast? #lrnchat
8:50:58 pm Quinnovator: Has legal approved it? RT @gps03: Q1: Has security approved it? #lrnchat
8:51:01 pm SueSchnorr: Q1 Won’t that hurt productivity? #lrnchat
8:51:03 pm chambo_online: Q1) Why would I want to read about someone’s status, much less their update? #lrnchat
8:51:07 pm alexismac: Hey – I heard some of these Q1 questions at the #elearn conference. in Oct. Scary. #lrnchat
8:51:13 pm rec54: Q0) Allen Interactions has a great tool for rapid prototyping of online learning #lrnchat #dl09
8:51:13 pm eduinnovation: How can we control it? #lrnchat
8:51:18 pm ranig2u: RT @chrisstjohn: To repeat Speaker at DL09, “Social media is like sex. If you are not doing it, you are not getting it.” #lrnchat
8:51:21 pm insynctraining: Q1: Get Qs about how to measure, how do we “know” what they’re doing #lrnchat
8:51:21 pm JffZllr: RT @chrisstjohn: To repeat from DL09, “Social media is like sex. If you are not doing it, you are not getting it.” #lrnchat
8:51:22 pm hybridkris: @tjmeister Cartoon Network used Unity as the platform for their MMO. It’s pretty cool. #lrnchat
8:51:24 pm chambo_online: RT @kelly_smith01: No one ever says anything inappropriate in lrnchat #lrnchat
8:51:29 pm minutebio: I use social learning as the term… more palatable to management that social media #lrnchat
8:51:33 pm sahana2802: Q1: Getting hooked to SoMe will just keep people from doing the work they are supposed to do. They’ll just socialize, right? #lrnchat
8:51:36 pm ValerieRoberts: Q1 Second Life? Isn’t that a game? #lrnchat
8:51:38 pm jadekaz: Q1 Who has time for that? #lrnchat
8:51:43 pm TerrenceWing: RT @chrisstjohn: 2 repeat a Speaker earlier today at DL09, “Social media is like sex. If you r not doing it, U R not getting it.” #lrnchat
8:51:44 pm ranig2u: RT @minutebio: Thats just another water cooler for people to gather around! #lrnchat
8:51:44 pm Tesfacom: RT @Schnicker: @TeamBuildingNY well Im here at #devlearn09 geeking out with hundreds of learning ppl on #lrnchat :) #dl09
8:51:54 pm ajeanne: Q0 I just learned not to click on a link when I have soooo many tabs open in Firefox. :) #lrnchat
8:52:00 pm rec54: @marksylvester the idea of not using the word “social” was reiterated by Andrew McAffee yesterday at #dl09 #lrnchat
8:52:06 pm carmean: q1 round two: “Who’s Andrew McAfree???” #lrnchat
8:52:10 pm gminks: oh my! RT @chrisstjohn: To repeat a Speaker today at DL09, “Social media is like sex if you arent doing it, you arent getting it.” #lrnchat
8:52:15 pm nancyrubin: Q1 – What social media tools are being used in the workplace? Social media has become a catch-all phrase – like “everything” 2.0 #lrnchat
8:52:19 pm jonll: lack of connection to performance of the business #lrnchat
8:52:20 pm Quinnovator: @minutebio so they don’t know that the watercooler is where org probs are solved? #lrnchat
8:52:25 pm marciamarcia: Why would I want to read about someone’s status, much less their update? RT @chambo_online <:-) #whynotSM #lrnchat
8:52:31 pm gminks: RT @eduinnovation: How can we control it? #lrnchat
8:52:41 pm kellygarber: Q1 – “how do we measure it? how do we know how much time is spent? value for that time?” #lrnchat
8:52:46 pm gps03: @ValerieRoberts second life is blocked as a game by my proxy, #lrnchat
8:52:48 pm Quinnovator: @ajeanne ADDIE’s a lush, poor thing #lrnchat
8:52:57 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @gminks: oh my! RT @chrisstjohn: Speaker today at DL09, “Social media is like sex if you arent doing it, you arent getting it.” #lrnchat
8:52:58 pm pedepede2: RT @chrisstjohn: 2 repeat a Speaker earlier today at DL09, “Social media is like sex. If you r not doing it, U R not getting it.” #lrnchat
8:53:02 pm ValerieRoberts: Q1 Why do I need this? How is it going to help me? #lrnchat
8:53:04 pm jadekaz: Q1 Employees have zero extra time, how will we get managers to approve? #lrnchat
8:53:06 pm urbie: @rec54 powerpoint [and cocktail napkins] are great rapid-proto tools #lrnchat
8:53:06 pm bjoernlasse: Q 1) If people are inspired to work – social media makes them more productive. If not – social media is an nice alt to work #lrnchat
8:53:07 pm JaneBozarth: McAfee says this is what execs think when they hear the word “social”: http://tinyurl.com/pxdgdw #lrnchat
8:53:08 pm kelly_smith01: SM does not have to be Twitter. There are a number of enterprise-only social media tools for collaboration & the like. #lrnchat
8:53:11 pm gminks: we stopped saying social media and used the term collaboration tools #lrnchat
8:53:12 pm TerrenceWing: @Quinnovator DRINK #lrnchat
8:53:14 pm klowey22: how do you have time to do that? :( #lrnchat
8:53:25 pm ajeanne: Q1 – I think maybe the “social” word could be a drawback for some folks. Aren’t we here to work? What’s all this “social” stuff? #lrnchat
8:53:29 pm Mary_a_Myers: @oehlert told me to focus on dynamic and the probs social media could solve w/o naming the tools = better reception when proposing #lrnchat
8:53:30 pm minutebio: RT @Quinnovator: @minutebio so they dont know that the watercooler is where org probs are solved? I don’t think they do know that #lrnchat
8:53:39 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator We should take ADDIE to The Betty. Palm Springs is nice. #lrnchat
8:53:39 pm espnguyen: http://andrewmcafee.org/blog/ RT @carmean: q1 round two: “Who’s Andrew McAfree???” #lrnchat
8:53:46 pm atsc: Q1: But googlewave will do that… (despite it not ever having been seen by anyone at the table) #lrnchat
8:53:55 pm chrisstjohn: I learned at DL09 that you CAN herd cats. Just move their food… Think about it. #lrnchat
8:53:56 pm marciamarcia: I’m here at #devlearn09 geeking out with hundreds of learning ppl on #lrnchat :) #dl09 RT @Schnicker HUNDREDS??!!
8:53:56 pm SueSchnorr: RT @gminks we stopped saying social media and used the term collaboration tools #lrnchat
8:53:58 pm tmiket: @gminks good idea re: using social media terms #lrnchat
8:53:58 pm carmean: q1: IT doesn’t allow it thru the firewall, and we can’t fight IT. #lrnchat
8:54:07 pm ValerieRoberts: RT @alexismac: Q1) Why do I want to know what someone ate for breakfast? #lrnchat {hear things like this all the time}
8:54:09 pm ranig2u: RT @gminks: we stopped saying social media and used the term collaboration tools – agreed #lrnchat
8:54:10 pm sahana2802: RT @gminks: Frm a Speaker today at DL09 “Social media is like sex if u arent doing it,u arent getting it.” #lrnchat This is going to stick!
8:54:12 pm JffZllr: RT @gminks: we stopped saying social media and used the term collaboration tools #lrnchat
8:54:15 pm TerrenceWing: @JaneBozarth DRINK DRINK #lrnchat
8:54:22 pm mpetersell: RT @ajeanne: Q1 – I think maybe the “social” word could be a drawback . Arent we here to work? Whats all this “social” stuff? #lrnchat
8:54:23 pm allisunelearns: RT @carmean: q1: IT doesnt allow it thru the firewall, and we cant fight IT. #lrnchat
8:54:28 pm dwilkinsnh: @JaneBozarth I guess, but I think it’s better than “informal” — what else should we call it? #lrnchat
8:54:35 pm insynctraining: @JaneBozarth I love Palm Springs! Remember when we played golf there? #lrnchat
8:54:39 pm gminks: ok not doing the mindmap anymore…. #lrnchat
8:54:40 pm jonll: RT @gminks we stopped saying social media and used the term collaboration tools #lrnchat
8:54:42 pm ajeanne: I like this: RT @SueSchnorr: RT @gminks we stopped saying social media and used the term collaboration tools #lrnchat
8:54:44 pm reward75: RT @chrisstjohn: I learned at DL09 that you CAN herd cats. Just move their food… Think about it. #lrnchat
8:54:50 pm gps03: @gminks nice one! I am definitely stealing that. #lrnchat
8:54:53 pm tmiket: @carmean Sometimes I feel like fighting IT *IS* my job. 8-) #lrnchat
8:54:55 pm JffZllr: ITs default answer is usually ‘NO’ #lrnchat
8:55:00 pm JaneBozarth: RT @gminks we stopped saying social media and used the term collaboration tools #lrnchat
8:55:05 pm urbie: @ValerieRoberts massively networked something or another. great for low-fidelity learning #lrnchat
8:55:12 pm jadekaz: @gminks that didn’t take very long :) #lrnchat
8:55:13 pm alexismac: RT @bjoernlasse: Q1) If people are inspired to work – SoMe makes them more productive. If not – social media is an nice alt to work #lrnchat
8:55:19 pm bjoernlasse: RT @gminks: we stopped saying social media and used the term collaboration tools – agreed #lrnchat
8:55:20 pm jolynnhernandez: True!RT @chrisstjohn: To repeat a Speaker today at DL09, “Social media is like sex if you arent doing it, you arent getting it.” #lrnchat
8:55:22 pm rec54: @carmean that would be the twin brother of Andrew Mcafee (sorry for my bad spelling) andrewmcafee.org #dl09 #lrnchat
8:55:29 pm dwilkinsnh: Oooh, I like “collaboration tools” — nice #lrnchat
8:55:31 pm JaneBozarth: @insynctraining Yes, I do. Miniature golf is still golf, after all. #lrnchat
8:55:41 pm chrisstjohn: I just bought MarciaMarcia’s book #lrnchat
8:55:45 pm JaneBozarth: RT @chrisstjohn: I learned at DL09 that you CAN herd cats. Just move their food… Think about it. #lrnchat
8:55:46 pm gminks: @gps03 :) happy to share!! #lrnchat
8:55:48 pm espnguyen: @janebozarth @dwilkinsnh The word “social” is still okay. Just need to use sparingly depending on audience (execs) #lrnchat
8:55:54 pm gps03: I work in IT. Remember that IT Security. Many IT folks want to use social media too and are stymied by Security. #lrnchat
8:55:55 pm Quinnovator: RT @kellygarber: Q1 – “how do we measure it? how do we know how much time is spent? value for that time?” #lrnchat
8:55:58 pm minutebio: Q1 – Do we have to buy everyone smartphones for this? #lrnchat
8:56:03 pm atsc: @JffZllr Then IT aren’t being managed properly… #lrnchat
8:56:05 pm sahana2802: RT @gminks we stopped saying SoMe & used the term collaboration tools #lrnchat. Collaboration-appealing 2 corporates than social #lrnchat
8:56:13 pm gminks: @jadekaz well I got the main nodes up. I think I have the grad student version of senioritus #lrnchat
8:56:14 pm richchetwynd: RT @tmiket: @carmean Sometimes I feel like fighting IT *IS* my job. 8-) #lrnchat
8:56:14 pm ajeanne: Q1 One could always start talking about “affordances.” Which is a huge part of what 2.0 can provide for us. #lrnchat
8:56:25 pm marciamarcia: New to tweetchats? There’s no expectation (or way) you’ll catch everything. Consider what you see as serendipity. #lrnchat
8:56:29 pm urbie: @nancyrubin social media is the table you and your co-workers sit at to have lunch – knowledge sharing events. #lrnchat
8:56:30 pm reward75: I’ve started referring to social media as knowledge channels – akin to marketing channels #lrnchat
8:56:41 pm kelly_smith01: Gartner: Loosen up on social netwks, security – http://bit.ly/3J1J5d (hope this link works if not use SM for Gartner & social media #lrnchat
8:56:44 pm JaneBozarth: @espnguyen was citing McAfee #lrnchat
8:56:52 pm Quinnovator: RT @chrisstjohn: I learned at DL09 that you CAN herd cats. Just move their food… Think about it. #lrnchat
8:56:54 pm kelly_smith01: RT @reward75: Ive started referring to social media as knowledge channels – akin to marketing channels #lrnchat
8:56:57 pm rec54: @urbie absolutely! although they tend to lead to more linear products than what Michael Allen showed today #dl09 #lrnchat
8:57:03 pm JffZllr: @atsc No argument here! ;-) #lrnchat
8:57:05 pm TerrenceWing: RT @reward75: Ive started referring to social media as knowledge channels – akin to marketing channels #lrnchat
8:57:10 pm gminks: @JffZllr be nice to IT! There is a reason they say no, some tools are hard to support #lrnchat
8:57:13 pm jadekaz: @gminks I feel ya. 3 classes to go for me. #lrnchat
8:57:27 pm atsc: @sahana2802 I’m surprised they like the term collaboration. I guess it depends on the political structure within your organisation. #lrnchat
8:57:35 pm JaneBozarth: @atsc @JffZllr IT being managed? Half the time they are holding the orgs hostage. #lrnchat
8:57:39 pm Schnicker: @marciamarcia Yep, if they’re not on it tweeting, they’re watching & learning :) #lrnchat
8:57:41 pm mpetersell: @reward75 – I like knowledge channels; I could see folks in my company going for that term #lrnchat
8:57:45 pm ranig2u: RT @reward75: Ive started referring to social media as knowledge channels – akin to marketing channels #lrnchat
8:57:49 pm espnguyen: @janebozarth Yep. But he said that the word “isn’t inaccurate, just not helpful (to business people)” #lrnchat
8:57:55 pm gminks: If you have ever had to work 18 hrs straight to fix a virus spread by IM (I HAVE) you’d understand #lrnchat
8:58:04 pm tmiket: @gminks Some are hard but they shouldn’t default to NO and make you prove otherwise should they? #lrnchat
8:58:05 pm atsc: @kelly_smith01 Does the average person understand what knowledge is? #lrnchat
8:58:12 pm tmiket: RT @JaneBozarth: @atsc @JffZllr IT being managed? Half the time they are holding the orgs hostage. #lrnchat
8:58:13 pm dwilkinsnh: Q1) I hate to raise this issue for all sorts of reasons, but… in general I see a lot of “ignorance” among the older execs #lrnchat
8:58:16 pm marciamarcia: I’ve started referring to social media as knowledge channels – akin to marketing channels RT @reward75 #lrnchat
8:58:16 pm ajeanne: @atsc “Collaboration” is bad? Who thinks so? :) #lrnchat
8:58:17 pm mpetersell: RT @mpetersell: @reward75 – I like knowledge channels; I could see folks in my company going for that term from far off places! #lrnchat
8:58:23 pm JffZllr: @gps03 I’ll send you our job postings! Could use more of that mindset… #lrnchat
8:58:27 pm gminks: @jadekaz lots of us on #lrnchat almost done – we should have a #lrnchat graduation. LOL #lrnchat
8:58:28 pm RobRobertson: OK folks going to try and Ustream from Lrnchat Live! http://ustre.am/3Ei2 might be shaky! #lrnchat
8:58:29 pm TerrenceWing: IT is gOD in tech language RT @gminks: @JffZllr be nice to IT! There is a reason they say no, some tools are hard to support #lrnchat
8:58:35 pm richchetwynd: @minutebio No. Mobile participation should be optional. Own time, own pace, own phone. #lrnchat
8:58:36 pm atsc: @JaneBozarth Exactly, it is managements fault for letting IT get away… #lrnchat
8:58:39 pm nancyrubin: Wikis are being embraced for knowledge bases especially when help desk or FAQs are involved. #lrnchat
8:58:40 pm jonll: collaboration via real time knowledge communities? #lrnchat
8:58:41 pm gwoodill: The affordances of mobile learning are the mirror opposite of the affordances of the classroom. #lrnchat
8:58:42 pm JaneBozarth: @atsc Good question, and no. #lrnchat
8:58:43 pm alexismac: I tell them we’ve found two great people to join our team using Twitter – that opens up their minds to the possibilities. #lrnchat
8:58:45 pm carmean: Drink! RT@ajeanne Q1 One could always start talking about “affordances.” Which is a huge part of what 2.0 can provide for us. #lrnchat
8:58:54 pm Dave_Ferguson: @JaneBozarth And the other half of the time, IT is trying to help Caesar go water-skiing. #lrnchat
8:58:57 pm sahana2802: RT @marciamarcia I’ve started referring to social media as “knowledge channels” – akin to marketing channels RT @reward75 #lrnchat
8:59:08 pm urbie: @rec54 i disagree – cocktail napkins especially: sometimes it takes one [cocktail] to enable creativity. #lrnchat
8:59:10 pm JaneBozarth: @espnguyen Yes… I didn’t say it was inaccurate. #lrnchat
8:59:11 pm marciamarcia: Social media is the table you and your co-workers sit at to have lunch – knowledge sharing events. RT @urbie #lrnchat
8:59:11 pm Quinnovator: don’t talk about social learning, talk about innovation, problem-solving, creativity, research, experimentation… #lrnchat
8:59:18 pm gminks: @tmiket NO, that is not smart from a biz perspective. You could make it easier by proving it won’t be resource intensive to support #lrnchat
8:59:28 pm atsc: @alexismac Interesting idea, thanks… #lrnchat
8:59:29 pm ranig2u: RT @gwoodill: The affordances of mobile learning are the mirror opposite of the affordances of the classroom. #lrnchat
8:59:31 pm jonll: LinkedIn is already one of the leading recruiting tools…#lrnchat
8:59:33 pm allisunelearns: Yup I’m done in May! RT @gminks: @jadekaz lots of us on #lrnchat almost done – we should have a #lrnchat graduation. LOL #lrnchat
8:59:38 pm JaneBozarth: @atsc Yep.#lrnchat
8:59:43 pm Dave_Ferguson: Why is ‘affordances’ a better word than, say, ‘benefits,’ which is what people care about? #lrnchat
8:59:43 pm rec54: Amen!: RT @dwilkinsnh: Oooh, I like “collaboration tools” — nice #lrnchat #dl09
8:59:59 pm JaneBozarth: RT @alexismac: I tell them we’ve found two great people to join our team using Twitter – opens up their minds to possibilities. #lrnchat
9:00:04 pm bjoernlasse: @dwilkinsnh how do you overcome ignorance? how do you implement new technologies & mindset? #lrnchat
9:00:11 pm lukegrange: RT @marciamarcia: Social media is the table you and your co-workers sit at to have lunch – knowledge sharing events. RT @urbie #lrnchat
9:00:11 pm urbie: @jonll i have a problem with ‘collaboration’ – maybe it’s all the b/w ww2 movies on amc – why not call it what it is: sharing. #lrnchat
9:00:12 pm minutebio: RT @richchetwynd: @minutebio No. Mobile participation should be optional. Own time, own pace, own phone I agree & can access on PC #lrnchat
9:00:14 pm kelly_smith01: @atsc May bot know definition in “knowledge management” the way Marc Rosenberg (and many others have used it) #lrnchat
9:00:15 pm nancyrubin: working on a remote team of 40, we teach newbies early to post to wiki and not hit reply all button on email :-) #lrnchat
9:00:16 pm espnguyen: RT @Quinnovator: don’t talk about social learning, talk about innovation, problem-solving, creativity, research, experimentation… #lrnchat
9:00:17 pm TerrenceWing: @reward75 Are you at devlearn? If so we have to meet face to face before it ends. #lrnchat
9:00:23 pm Dave_Ferguson: RT @Quinnovator: dont talk social learning [but] innovation, problem-solving, creativity, research, experimentation. / & drop E- ! #lrnchat
9:00:26 pm bjoernlasse: RT @marciamarcia: Social media is the table you and your co-workers sit at to have lunch – knowledge sharing events. RT @urbie #lrnchat
9:00:33 pm shapah: engage stealth scarf mode @JaneBozarth: RT @chrisstjohn: I learned at DL09 that you CAN herd cats. Just move their food… #lrnchat
9:00:40 pm gwoodill: Perhaps social should be changed to “collective” – the result is (sometimes) the production of collective intelligence. #lrnchat
9:00:47 pm JffZllr: RT @marciamarcia: Social media is the table you and your co-workers sit at to have lunch – knowledge sharing events. #lrnchat
9:00:49 pm tmiket: @bjoernlasse overcome ignorance with learning? #lrnchat
9:00:51 pm gminks: @allisunelearns are you walking? If I get done (internship pending) I’ll walk May 1 #lrnchat
9:00:54 pm insynctraining: RT @nancyrubin: working on a remote team of 40, we teach newbies early to post to wiki and not hit reply all button on email :-) #lrnchat
9:01:00 pm urbie: @richchetwynd agreed – it’s my dime that pays for the device – who wants to work away from work? #lrnchat
9:01:04 pm tmiket: RT @nancyrubin: working on a remote team of 40, we teach newbies early to post to wiki and not hit reply all button on email :-) #lrnchat
9:01:09 pm atsc: @kelly_smith01 Yes have just read some academic stuff on KM… interesting… #lrnchat
9:01:13 pm TeamBuildingNY: @Schnicker @Tesfacom #devlearn09 #lrnchat #dl09 – jealous I wish I was there!!! it sounds great #devlearn09 #lrnchat #dl09
9:01:17 pm ranig2u: RT @Quinnovator: dont talk social learning [but] innovation, problem-solving, creativity, research, experimentation. / & drop E- ! #lrnchat
9:01:18 pm insynctraining: RT @Quinnovator: don’t talk about social learning, talk about innovation, problem-solving, creativity, research, experimentation. #lrnchat
9:01:18 pm Dave_Ferguson: @urbie You realize WW II ended 64 years ago… #lrnchat
9:01:28 pm TerrenceWing: RT @bjoernlasse: @marciamarcia: SoME is table you and your co-workers sit at to have lunch – knowledge sharing events. RT @urbie #lrnchat
9:01:28 pm lrnchat: Q1b) If you’ve braved the social media for learning pitch already, what suggestions do you have for others? #lrnchat
9:01:29 pm dwilkinsnh: @bjoernlasse My strategy has always been to share real world stories from companies who have already gone “there” — always works #lrnchat
9:01:32 pm ajeanne: @Dave_Ferguson “Affordance” is maybe more like “advantage” than “benefit.” #lrnchat
9:01:32 pm gminks: @urbie isn’t collaboration more 2-way than sharing? #lrnchat
9:01:37 pm nancyrubin: @gwoodill isn’t that the borg? ;-) #lrnchat
9:01:43 pm atsc: @gwoodill Ugh, how are you going to sell the word “collective”? #lrnchat
9:01:49 pm mpetersell: RT @gwoodill: social should be changed to “collective” – the result is (sometimes) collective intelligence. – like the borg! #lrnchat
9:01:58 pm ranig2u: RT @lrnchat: Q1b) If youve braved the social media for learning pitch already, what suggestions do you have for others? #lrnchat
9:02:02 pm reward75: count me in! i’m done in may RT @jadekaz lots of us on #lrnchat almost done – we should have a #lrnchat graduation. LOL #lrnchat
9:02:05 pm Mary_a_Myers: i suppose the best way to convince is to “show” how it can be effective etc. see…use… #lrnchat
9:02:08 pm tmiket: RT @lrnchat: Q1b) If you’ve braved the social media for learning pitch already, what suggestions do you have for others? #lrnchat
9:02:08 pm urbie: @ajeanne collaboration is bad if there isn’t some amount of social commitment over time – otherwise it’s a form of prostitution. #lrnchat
9:02:09 pm ajeanne: Or, we could just say that plugging in to 2.0 tools makes us smarter. :) #lrnchat
9:02:14 pm sahana2802: RT @rnchat Q1b) If you’ve braved the social media for learning pitch already, what suggestions do you have for others? #lrnchat
9:02:15 pm nancyrubin: @mpetersell jinks #lrnchat
9:02:17 pm Quinnovator: @Dave_Ferguson affordances are inherent, benefits are realized affordances; may have affordances not yet found bennies for #lrnchat
9:02:18 pm Dave_Ferguson: @gminks Yes! Co-labore, to WORK TOGETHER. #lrnchat
9:02:26 pm dwilkinsnh: Q1b) Tell stories with real data about brand name companies that have had success #lrnchat
9:02:26 pm atsc: @dwilkinsnh Or in my case show real world applications by other teachers… I agree this is the best strategy… #lrnchat
9:02:28 pm tjmeister: All of the connections leading up to most recent Emplyment with awesome e-learning co. made through social networking. ;-) #lrnchat
9:02:33 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q1b) If you’ve braved the social media for learning pitch already, what suggestions do you have for others? #lrnchat
9:02:37 pm rec54: @Dave_Ferguson Affordances are not the same as benefits – it is more closely aligned with “features” #dl09 #lrnchat
9:02:40 pm ajeanne: @atsc Senator McCarthy would have a field day with “collective.” #lrnchat
9:02:41 pm JaneBozarth: Q1b) If you’ve braved the social media for learning pitch already, what suggestions do you have for others? #lrnchat
9:02:44 pm jonll: via #L2009, CLOs think ROI is overrated, ROE-return on engagement, what better way than mass personalization through collaboration #lrnchat
9:02:50 pm klowey22: collaboration and innovation are typically great terms, look for terms your org can tie directly to business impact/results… #lrnchat
9:02:56 pm kelly_smith01: @atsc Read marc Rosenberg’s Beyonf E-Learning for KM in the learning world #lrnchat
9:03:00 pm Dave_Ferguson: @Quinnovator I don’t care. “Affordances” is a geeky, incrowd word. #lrnchat
9:03:07 pm gwoodill: @atsc Just say it over and over again. The essence of selling is persistance. People will buy to make you go away. #lrnchat
9:03:10 pm atsc: @Dave_Ferguson Is that the basis of the word? I guess it is, hadn’t thought about it… #lrnchat
9:03:18 pm hjarche: social learning should be feared, it encourages uncontrolled connections – hyper-learning subverts hierarchies – beware! #lrnchat
9:03:19 pm ranig2u: RT @dwilkinsnh: Q1b) Tell stories with real data about brand name companies that have had success #lrnchat
9:03:22 pm gminks: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Yes! Co-labore, to WORK TOGETHER. #lrnchat
9:03:26 pm espnguyen: Q1 How do we combat the question “Our culture isn’t like that”? #lrnchat
9:03:38 pm elatedca: Let us know how that goes RT @marciamarcia: Marcia Conner, #lrnchat founder..writing a book on learning socially at work.
9:03:41 pm carmean: Q1b) Case studies. Storytelling. Evidence. #lrnchat
9:03:43 pm nancyrubin: Q1b – it is not really a question of if you will implement any more but when you will implement (embrace) earlier the better #lrnchat
9:03:45 pm AveyCa: Q0- I enjoyed learning something new about Augmented Reality. got to try on glasses tonight for first hand experience #lrnchat
9:03:49 pm dwilkinsnh: Q1b) Relate it to stuff people already do — ppl already learn and collaborate socially already, we just extend it w/ tools #lrnchat
9:03:50 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @gwoodill: @atsc Just say it over and over again. The essence of selling is persistance. People will buy to make you go away. #lrnchat
9:03:52 pm tmiket: surely somebody is drinking right now for affordances aren’t they? #lrnchat
9:04:00 pm JaneBozarth: I work for gubmint; they saw success Obama campaign had w/ using social tools. Our new Gov on YouTube, my new big boss on Facebook. #lrnchat
9:04:02 pm klowey22: i heard a new one recently… ’social business design’ #lrnchat
9:04:05 pm kellygarber: RT @gwoodill: @atsc Just say it over and over again. The essence of selling is persistance. People will buy to make you go away. #lrnchat
9:04:09 pm ajeanne: @Dave_Ferguson Were you here when we established that this is a group of dorks already? :) #lrnchat
9:04:10 pm kelly_smith01: RT @hjarche: social learning should be feared, it encourages uncontrolled connections -hyper-learning subverts hierarchies -beware! #lrnchat
9:04:14 pm urbie: @salhir it takes a village [of talents] to produce really cool [as assessed via kirkpatrick 1-4] elearning #lrnchat
9:04:14 pm gminks: Q1b listen to the execs, they want to do this, but need to tie it to the biz req. Figure out the biz req and fill the gap with SoMe #lrnchat
9:04:17 pm TerrenceWing: RT @espnguyen: Q1 How do we combat the question “Our culture isnt like that”? #lrnchat
9:04:17 pm Dave_Ferguson: Q1b: try not to talk about carts before horses. Better, talk about destinations. #lrnchat
9:04:18 pm mpetersell: @espnguyen everybody’s doing it! Jump on the bandwagon #lrnchat
9:04:18 pm JaneBozarth: …so saw pos model relevant to them. #lrnchat
9:04:22 pm carmean: @Dave_Ferguson Geeky in-crowd word users? hey, I resemble that! #lrnchat
9:04:26 pm nancyrubin: @ranig2u establish corporate usage guidelines – http://bit.ly/53np9 #lrnchat
9:04:29 pm Quinnovator: Q1b) focus on: biz case; need to go beyond execution to continual innovation; collective intelligence. #lrnchat
9:04:29 pm ranig2u: @gwoodill – persistance in selling works for transactions – but for learning? #lrnchat
9:04:36 pm gminks: yes folks I am taking TWO performance classes this semester :) #lrnchat
9:04:40 pm atsc: @carmean definately evidence of effectiveness. But how do you measure this? #lrnchat
9:04:43 pm JaneBozarth: @urbie Yeah, needs to be more than singing Kum Ba Ya! #lrnchat
9:04:46 pm gps03: Q1b) no one wanted to hear the pitch so we are just doing it through any unblocked channels. Mainly twitter. #lrnchat
9:04:47 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @nancyrubin: @ranig2u establish corporate usage guidelines – http://bit.ly/53np9 #lrnchat
9:04:49 pm alexismac: RT @hjarche: social learning should be feared, it encourages uncontrolled connections – hyper-learning subverts hierarchies beware! #lrnchat
9:04:50 pm gwoodill: @Dave_Ferguson What new word in not geeky? We need metaphors for everything.. #lrnchat
9:04:52 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @carmean: Q1b) Case studies. Storytelling. Evidence. #lrnchat
9:05:01 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: Q1b) focus on: biz case; need to go beyond execution to continual innovation; collective intelligence. #lrnchat
9:05:02 pm JaneBozarth: Mgrs want to hear that you can solve their problem. #lrnchat
9:05:10 pm atsc: @Quinnovator Ohoh this sounds like Star-Trek… #lrnchat
9:05:12 pm ajeanne: RT @dwilkinsnh: Q1b)Relate to stuff people already do-ppl already learn and collaborate socially already, we just extend w/ tools #lrnchat
9:05:18 pm sahana2802: 1b. Identify a few who are enthusiastic,have the “power” to influence others & take decisions; show them how you have benefited #lrnchat
9:05:19 pm mpetersell: @nancyrubin corp usage guidelines – that will kill it fast #lrnchat
9:05:20 pm Quinnovator: @Dave_Ferguson we’re the incrowd that should be looking at tech affordances for learning #lrnchat
9:05:25 pm dwilkinsnh: Turn major objection on it’s head: “we can’t control it” becomes “you don’t control it anyway, this gives influence & visibility” #lrnchat
9:05:28 pm urbie: @JaneBozarth i don’t think it’s the social tools per se – it’s the economy of scale the technology enables . #lrnchat
9:05:29 pm allisunelearns: RT @JoanVinallCox @carmean: Q1b) Case studies. Storytelling. Evidence. #lrnchat
9:05:36 pm AveyCa: Q1) Most clients fear- lack of control over inappropriate use. #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:05:36 pm gminks: @espnguyen we tied informal learning to value networks, and tied that to ITIL (I work in high tech). That worked #lrnchat
9:05:42 pm gwoodill: @ranig2u Absolutely persistance is necessary for learning. #lrnchat
9:05:45 pm TerrenceWing: @espnguyen Sales techniques – have them define their ideal culture. Chances r it includes collaborative learning by employees #lrnchat
9:05:47 pm JaneBozarth: RT @hjarche: social learning should be feared, it encourages uncontrolled connections – hyper-learning subverts hierarchies beware!#lrnchat
9:05:54 pm gminks: I actually have a presentation about this to post… #lrnchat
9:05:57 pm JaneBozarth: I want to subvert a hierarchy! #lrnchat
9:05:57 pm atsc: @JaneBozarth Yes…. #lrnchat
9:06:03 pm Quinnovator: @Dave_Ferguson don’t use affordances with those who don’t need, but good to use right concept with those who do #lrnchat
9:06:05 pm gps03: Q1b) helps that many Fed agencies I deal with are also on twitter, esp. Gov’t lessons learned information sharing. #lrnchat
9:06:11 pm bjoernlasse: @dwilkinsnh hmm – yes to sell smth stories are excellent. But how do you implement new tech & sharing mindset? #lrnchat
9:06:15 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @ranig2u: @gwoodill – persistence in selling works 4 transactions – but for learning? Sure – repetition sinks in & ppl turn to u #lrnchat
9:06:16 pm SueSchnorr: Q1b Excellent way to reinforce skills with small time/dollar commitment/ maximize investment in training event #lrnchat
9:06:21 pm carmean: Q1b: Wait till they want to solve a problem, propose social media (by some stealth name) as solution. As Pilot. Low risk. Hi-yield. #lrnchat
9:06:22 pm gwoodill: @Quinnovator Agreed. If not us, who is going to talk about this stuff… #lrnchat
9:06:23 pm atsc: @AveyCa Then allow them to control it… #lrnchat
9:06:23 pm jadekaz: How do you combat past 2.0 failures (e.g., blogs/wikis) #lrnchat
9:06:34 pm sahana2802: RT @JaneBozarth social learning should be feared, encourages uncontrolled connections – hyper-learning subverts hierarchies beware!#lrnchat
9:06:35 pm scottmerrett: RT @AveyCa: Q1) Most clients fear- lack of control over inappropriate use. #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:06:37 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @gwoodill: @ranig2u Absolutely persistance is necessary for learning. #lrnchat
9:06:43 pm klowey22: RT @JaneBozarth: Mgrs want to hear that you can solve their problem. #lrnchat
9:06:43 pm ajeanne: RT @Quinnovator: @Dave_Ferguson we’re the incrowd that should be looking at tech affordances for learning #lrnchat
9:06:44 pm mpetersell: Q1Response: We can connect to our customers better this way; $$$$$$ #lrnchat
9:06:50 pm Quinnovator: @hjarche you subversive! #lrnchat
9:06:51 pm kelly_smith01: 1b) Maybe a C-level person has an ipod and will be an easy sell #lrnchat
9:06:52 pm rec54: @Quinnovator @Dave_Ferguson Affordances vs. Benefits – think potential vs kenetic energy (still a bit geeky, I realize) #lrnchat #ld09
9:06:54 pm Mary_a_Myers: Me too! RT @JaneBozarth: I want to subvert a hierarchy! #lrnchat
9:07:02 pm gminks: LOL! RT @aboynamedart: social media & sex. on twitter, brevity is a virtue. #lrnchat
9:07:02 pm salhir: RT @urbie: collaboration is bad if thr isn’t sum amount of social commitment ovr time – otherwise it’s a form of prostitution. #lrnchat
9:07:14 pm atsc: @atsc or at least let them think they control it… #lrnchat
9:07:18 pm chrisstjohn: Collective intelligence = transparency. Stove piping equates with CONTROL. #lrnchat
9:07:21 pm insynctraining: We deal w/ external clients; use collab tools (wiki) as intersession work. t’s part of the course so no ‘pitching’ #lrnchat
9:07:38 pm jadekaz: ha ha ha RT @kelly_smith01: 1b) Maybe a C-level person has an ipod and will be an easy sell #lrnchat
9:07:40 pm dwilkinsnh: Q1b) Use the age thing: 50% of the workforce is Gen X / Gen Y so even tho “you” don’t get it, more than 50% of team already uses #lrnchat
9:07:40 pm ranig2u: RT @dwilkinsnh: Turn objection on its head: “we cant control it” > “you dont control it anyway, this gives influence & visibility” #lrnchat
9:07:50 pm AveyCa: @atsc or trial to overcome fears about control as another option :) #lrnchat
9:07:55 pm SueSchnorr: Q1 SoMe is aligned perfectly with adult learning principles. #lrnchat
9:07:56 pm Dave_Ferguson: @salhir Prostitution isn’t collaboration, it’s exploitation, like boss getting you to work for free on crappy stuff. #lrnchat
9:08:02 pm elatedca: I’m thinking a Laugh-in reunion: SocMed to Me! RT #lrnchat
9:08:09 pm atsc: @chrisstjohn You need to carefully define what you mean by collective intelligence… #lrnchat
9:08:11 pm ajeanne: A dictionary is an affordance. Put it online & it becomes a faster source of looking stuff up. #lrnchat
9:08:26 pm Quinnovator: @TerrenceWing @espnguyen if our culture isn’t like that, we won’t be able to compete #lrnchat
9:08:28 pm JaneBozarth: @dwilkinsnh In case you missed this, I am the world’s oldest Millenial. #lrnchat
9:08:29 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Mary_a_Myers: Me too! RT @JaneBozarth: I want to subvert a hierarchy! Mmmmmmmmm subvertion #lrnchat
9:08:30 pm allisunelearns: RT @dwilkinsnh: Q1b) Use the age thing: 50% workforce Gen X / Gen Y so even tho “you” dont get it, more than 50% team already uses #lrnchat
9:08:38 pm tmiket: @gminks agreed it’s not smart re:IT totally agreed #lrnchat
9:08:39 pm TerrenceWing: @jadekaz probe,then discuss how problems could’ve been avoided if we accessed more SMEs & others to help us solve the problem #lrnchat
9:08:44 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @SueSchnorr: Q1 SoMe is aligned perfectly with adult learning principles. #lrnchat
9:08:48 pm urbie: @JaneBozarth soup-cans connected by kite-string was social media in 50s – slack string good indicator of ineffectiveness. #lrnchat
9:08:49 pm ajeanne: Water cooler talk can be an affordance. Putting it on Twitter can increase the efficiency of picking up new stuff. #lrnchat
9:08:52 pm espnguyen: Find people in the org who are the culture you want >> RT Q1 How do we combat the question “Our culture isn’t like that”? #lrnchat
9:08:58 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @elatedca: Im thinking a Laugh-in reunion: SocMed to Me! RT #lrnchat
9:09:07 pm JaneBozarth: Are we talking too high-level? All this “collaboration” and “social space” a little vague? What specifics does mgmt want to hear? #lrnchat
9:09:17 pm atsc: You will be able to find the answers to what you seek in the collective intelligence??? #lrnchat
9:09:17 pm dwilkinsnh: @bjoernlasse sharing “mindset” is a legit issue, but that’s why you need to start with real issues, core team to get things rolling #lrnchat
9:09:23 pm mpetersell: RT @Quinnovator: @TerrenceWing @espnguyen if our culture isnt like that, we wont be able to compete – Like this one. #lrnchat
9:09:29 pm gwoodill: @atsc a definition on Twitter? – there isn’t enough room!!! #lrnchat
9:09:30 pm Quinnovator: we are the geeks our mothers warned us about? #lrnchat
9:09:43 pm JaneBozarth: @ranig2u @dwilkinsnh Boy do they ever not want to hear “you don’t control it anyway”…they sure think they do #lrnchat
9:09:56 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: I want to subvert a hierarchy! #lrnchat
9:09:58 pm dwilkinsnh: @JaneBozarth LOL — I seem to recall something about that… #lrnchat
9:10:12 pm JaneBozarth: RT @urbie: soup-cans connected by kite-string was social media in 50s – slack string good indicator of ineffectiveness. #lrnchat
9:10:15 pm atsc: @JaneBozarth Does it improve the bottom line… #lrnchat
9:10:20 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: I want to subvert a hierarchy! #lrnchat
9:10:22 pm Mary_a_Myers: we are indeed. RT @Quinnovator: we are the geeks our mothers warned us about? #lrnchat
9:10:25 pm Dave_Ferguson: @JaneBozarth Yes. “Social space” won’t fly far at the state dept of highways. #lrnchat
9:10:34 pm gminks: this is our company’s motto right now RT @TerrenceWing @espnguyen if our culture isnt like that, we wont be able to compete #lrnchat
9:10:38 pm tmiket: RT @JaneBozarth: @ranig2u @dwilkinsnh Boy do they ever not want to hear “you don’t control it anyway”…they sure think they do #lrnchat
9:10:40 pm JaneBozarth: RT @JoanVinallCox: RT @SueSchnorr: Q1 SoMe is aligned perfectly with adult learning principles. #lrnchat
9:10:44 pm gps03: RT @JaneBozarth: et.al. Boy do they ever not want to hear “you dont control it anyway”…they sure think they do — AMEN! #lrnchat
9:10:52 pm lrnchat: Q2) What are some of the answers you’ve offered that haven’t been as well received as you’d hoped they’d be? Ideas why? #lrnchat
9:10:56 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: we are the geeks our mothers warned us about? —>Some are the dorks our mothers warned us about. #lrnchat
9:10:58 pm gwoodill: RT @atsc: You will be able to find the answers to what you seek in the collective intelligence??? It’s one more source of answers. #lrnchat
9:11:01 pm Quinnovator: rings my chimes RT @elatedca: I’m thinking a Laugh-in reunion: SocMed to Me! RT #lrnchat
9:11:05 pm nancyrubin: soc media tools need right application in organization. My team is totally remote – all our tools “technically” for collaboration. #lrnchat
9:11:12 pm reward75: Argh, you don’t suddenly learn differently when u grow up @SueSchnorr: Q1 SoMe is aligned perfectly with adult learning principles. #lrnchat
9:11:17 pm atsc: Hmmm… I miss out on Gen X by 1 year. I shouldn’t be here! #lrnchat
9:11:23 pm jadekaz: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some of the answers youve offered that havent been as well received as youd hoped theyd be? Ideas why? #lrnchat
9:11:29 pm hjarche: my advice, only intro 1 social media app at a time in large orgs – start small, like social bookmarks or a blog for training dept #lrnchat
9:11:38 pm chrisstjohn: (Showing my age) When I was young, we didnt have geeks, we had NERDS. #lrnchat
9:11:39 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some of the answers youve offered that havent been as well received as youd hoped theyd be? Ideas why? #lrnchat
9:11:43 pm insynctraining: RT @JoanVinallCox: RT @SueSchnorr: Q1 SoMe is aligned perfectly with adult learning principles. #lrnchat
9:11:45 pm SueSchnorr: RE: Adult learning; For example: Relevant, on their own terms/time/ with peers Interested in your perspective #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:11:45 pm ConnectIrmeli: using ‘implementing transformation’ i.s.o. ’social’ or ‘collective’ #lrnchat – connective, non-linear, complex, simple also good learn terms
9:11:51 pm mpetersell: My company uses Yammer -mostly just IT geeks so far; A small brood of marketing people…and me! #lrnchat
9:11:56 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some answers you’ve offered that haven’t been as well received as you’d hoped they’d be? Ideas why? #lrnchat
9:11:56 pm JoanVinallCox: Q2 I’m often too soon – I can see it working but ppl don’t see it. #lrnchat
9:12:04 pm urbie: ur@gminks gets down to acknowledging you need someone’s help to do something – collaboration hides the need to share component #lrnchat
9:12:04 pm ranig2u: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some of the answers youve offered that havent been as well received as youd hoped theyd be? Ideas why? #lrnchat
9:12:05 pm jadekaz: @nancyrubin Good example of context setting groundwork for SoMe! #lrnchat
9:12:11 pm tmiket: @nancyrubin Yes just like ANY tool the trick is to apply it for best RESULTS #lrnchat
9:12:13 pm gminks: q2 defining informal learning. It took a long time to get that right, tying to technical processes helped (I think…) #lrnchat
9:12:22 pm Dave_Ferguson: @atsc You can get a Gen X dispensation from Doug Copeland. Or Steve Jobs. #lrnchat
9:12:34 pm JaneBozarth: @Dave_Ferguson No, but NC Dept of Highways (Transport.) DOES kind of get it– they use Twitter 4 traffic updates. Kudos to them #lrnchat
9:12:35 pm mpetersell: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some of the answers youve offered that havent been as well received as youd hoped theyd be? Ideas why? #lrnchat
9:12:49 pm alexismac: I once called some of my non-twitter friends dinosaurs at a party (after answering bkfast ?). Kindof killed the mood. Q2 #lrnchat
9:12:49 pm gminks: tell them! :) RT @chrisstjohn: (Showing my age) When I was young, we didnt have geeks, we had NERDS. #lrnchat
9:12:51 pm tmiket: @mpetersell Curious to hear your take on yammer’s benefits in your org #lrnchat
9:12:55 pm allisunelearns: RT @hjarche: my advice, intro 1 social media app at time in large orgs – start small, like social bkmarks or blog for training dept #lrnchat
9:12:56 pm gwoodill: @chrisstjohn I’m so old we had “eggheads”. #lrnchat
9:12:56 pm shapah: At last, The Cluetrain Manifesto surfaces in Ed #cluetrainmanifesto @JaneBozarth: I want to subvert a hierarchy! #lrnchat
9:12:56 pm espnguyen: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some answers you’ve offered that haven’t been as well received as you’d hoped they’d be? Ideas why? #lrnchat
9:13:05 pm urbie: @Dave_Ferguson who said “those whom fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it”? #lrnchat
9:13:16 pm AveyCa: Q2 Go ahead and open that portal for 3D…no worries :) #lrnchat
9:13:26 pm ajeanne: Unimpressed with generational differences & 2.0. #lrnchat
9:13:27 pm JaneBozarth: RT @hjarche:Advice: intro 1 social media app at a time in large orgs – start small, like social bookmarks or blog 4 training dept #lrnchat
9:13:28 pm atsc: @JaneBozarth Yes but twitter is simple to understand. Tried selling googlewave??? #lrnchat
9:13:35 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @gwoodill: @chrisstjohn Im so old we had “eggheads”. #lrnchat
9:13:36 pm jadekaz: Oh no. Are we the CB talkers? #lrnchat
9:13:43 pm ranig2u: RT @hjarche: advice, only intro 1 social media app at a time in lrg orgs-start small, like social bkmarks or a blog for train dept #lrnchat
9:13:45 pm salhir: @Dave_Ferguson: Agree, notice, @urbie said collaboration is bad if thr isn’t commitment … #lrnchat
9:13:47 pm elatedca: What of the classic ‘telephone’ training game?RT @JaneBozarth: RT @urbie: soup-cans connected by kite-string was social media.. #lrnchat
9:13:50 pm chrisstjohn: @Quinnovator It was good enuf for me (classrooms), so it should be good enuf for you. #lrnchat
9:14:01 pm JaneBozarth: Q3 Believe it or not I may overwhelm.. #lrnchat
9:14:01 pm hjarche: advised non-profit ed client to use blog to connect with public – “we don’t want to know what they have to say, we’re the experts” #lrnchat
9:14:14 pm gps03: Q2) Removing app promotion control from static web content (Dev — Eval — Prod) was shot down. #lrnchat
9:14:17 pm Quinnovator: Q2 games (because called games), mobile (because ‘too hard’), strategy (because think they know), social (see Q1) #lrnchat
9:14:29 pm TerrenceWing: Proctor and Gamble, Pfizer, and GE are doing it… #lrnchat
9:14:30 pm nancyrubin: how do you integrate social media tools with LMS? #lrnchat
9:14:31 pm gwoodill: This experience is like having a shower together. Whose got the soap? #lrnchat
9:14:38 pm atsc: @allisunelearns I wish they had told people here, we have gazillions of new apps and things to play with… Too many! #lrnchat
9:14:45 pm dwilkinsnh: Q2) I’m not sure I’ve ever used a bad answer, but I have hit many a brick wall — execs who just “don’t get it” & likely never will #lrnchat
9:14:52 pm Quinnovator: RT @AveyCa: Q2 Go ahead and open that portal for 3D…no worries :) #lrnchat
9:14:59 pm salhir: @Dave_Ferguson no one said “Prostitution is collaboration”!!! #lrnchat
9:14:59 pm ajeanne: RT @TerrenceWing: Proctor and Gamble, Pfizer, and GE are doing it… #lrnchat
9:15:06 pm JaneBozarth: @atsc Sorry? #lrnchat
9:15:10 pm jadekaz: That’s good, but IT still has to approve as whole RT @hjarche:Advice: intro 1 social media app at a time #lrnchat
9:15:14 pm ranig2u: @JaneBozarth – NC dept on Twitter – cool! they do this *after* i leave NC!? #lrnchat
9:15:16 pm mpetersell: @hjarche that is a hard culture to crack – good luck #lrnchat
9:15:19 pm JoanVinallCox: @nancyrubin You link from the LMS to the SoMe tools #lrnchat
9:15:47 pm chrisstjohn: How do you sell Social Media to executives when they barely have anything “e” and are afraid of it? #lrnchat
9:15:49 pm Dave_Ferguson: – @urbie George Santayana, “The Life of Reason.” #lrnchat
9:15:58 pm Quinnovator: @atsc tried *using* googlewave? :) #lrnchat
9:16:00 pm ajeanne: :::uploading soap::: for @gwoodill #lrnchat
9:16:13 pm atsc: @nancyrubin Tricky one… That is often a technical problem… The LMS systems are often closed… Aren’t we trying to replace them #lrnchat
9:16:19 pm AveyCa: At DevLearn, if you’re here…go to Demo. Check out Augmented Reality, FAA airspace, Wine “tagging”… What are your favs? #lrnchat
9:16:20 pm ThinkPhysics: Q2) There is a lot of paranoia about student data and technology. #lrnchat
9:16:20 pm hjarche: @mpetersell no, we just parted company, and that’s fine with me #lrnchat
9:16:21 pm tmiket: @JoanVinallCox What are you tracking in the LMS from SoMe arena? #lrnchat
9:16:23 pm ajeanne: RT @chrisstjohn: How do you sell Social Media to executives when they barely have anything “e” and are afraid of it? #lrnchat
9:16:25 pm JaneBozarth: @ranig2u They were prolly just waiting for you to leave ;-) #lrnchat
9:16:37 pm ranig2u: RT @chrisstjohn: How do you sell Social Media to executives when they barely have anything “e” and are afraid of it? – good Q #lrnchat
9:16:41 pm kellygarber: Q2 – *collaboration* is starting to wear thin, b/c corps are realizing higher project costs as a side effect. don’t overuse terms. #lrnchat
9:16:46 pm mpetersell: @tmiket Yammer has had limited success so far; Marketing people yammer from events to get answers for questions at expos #lrnchat
9:16:47 pm kelly_smith01: RT @nancyrubin: how do you integrate social media tools with LMS? —> Saw a blog 2day on SMS (S is for social) #lrnchat
9:16:50 pm JaneBozarth: RT @Quinnovator: @atsc tried *using* googlewave? :) #lrnchat
9:17:19 pm Dave_Ferguson: @atsc @nancyrubin Not trying to replace LMSs if we sell them, no… #lrnchat
9:17:29 pm bjoernlasse: @nancyrubin we gave it a try http://bit.ly/2wCd0k ;) check out #lrnchat
9:17:34 pm tmiket: @mpetersell Prob. needs to reach some critical mass you think? #lrnchat
9:17:37 pm atsc: @Quinnovator Yes, tried wave, not convinced… yet… It needs a killer use… Looks very niche to me… #lrnchat
9:17:37 pm allisunelearns: @nancyrubin You can embed Google #Wave in Moodle, embed Twitter streams, embed almost everything : ) #lrnchat
9:17:39 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @tmiket: @JoanVinallCox What are you tracking in the LMS from SoMe arena? Actually, I just skip the LMS & set up private wiki #lrnchat
9:17:51 pm ajeanne: You could maybe show the execs how to quickly get the latest ballgame scores on Twitter. Then you might show them other info, 2 #lrnchat
9:17:53 pm AveyCa: @chrisstjohn Find the business driver that motivates the execs in to reconsidering. Then get them in the tool(s). #lrnchat
9:18:05 pm hjarche: @kelly_smith01 easy to integrate soc media tools with LMS – dump the LMS ;-) #lrnchat
9:18:07 pm minutebio: Q2) Tried to sell Linked In.. moderate success until 500 lay-offs announced. Could not get on linkedIn quick enough #lrnchat
9:18:09 pm JaneBozarth: @ajeanne Quit saying “e”/”social” &use their terms. “We need to capture tacit knowledge”, “we need to shore up succession planning” #lrnchat
9:18:14 pm gps03: @Quinnovator yep see: http://bit.ly/2ea5MV used wave & webex for realtime drag & drop #lrnchat
9:18:18 pm atsc: @allisunelearns Yes and you can embed wave in Blackboard as well… #lrnchat
9:18:19 pm gwoodill: @chrisstjohn Start by making them e-Xecutives…Find their interests and seduce them into the experience. #lrnchat
9:18:24 pm bjoernlasse: @mpetersell @tmiket I have really good experience with yammer! works great!! #lrnchat
9:18:28 pm urbie: @Dave_Ferguson not familiar with GS – a little reflection makes me wonder if it’s same-old-same-old – but with new terms? #lrnchat
9:18:33 pm allisunelearns: @nancyrubin in the case of Second Life there is a way cool two way integration with Moodle. Is SL considered SoMe? #lrnchat
9:18:40 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @hjarche: @kelly_smith01 easy to integrate soc media tools with LMS – dump the LMS ;-) #lrnchat
9:18:47 pm mpetersell: @tmiket Yes so far just IT and marketing and a few others – far from critical mass #lrnchat
9:18:49 pm TerrenceWing: RT @AveyCa: @chrisstjohn Find the business driver that motivates the execs in to reconsidering. Then get them in the tool(s). #lrnchat
9:18:52 pm joshlittle: @chrisstjohn You sell it by integrating in areas with high ROI. Salesforce communication is lacking in every org. #lrnchat
9:18:53 pm ranig2u: RT @nancyrubin You can embed Google #Wave in Moodle, embed Twitter streams, embed almost everything : ) – not stable enuf! #lrnchat
9:18:53 pm tmiket: @JoanVinallCox My exp has been that the LMS creates to much “friction” and gets in the way sometimes #lrnchat
9:18:58 pm atsc: Wave is a document sharing and creation system. Do we really need a worldwide one of these? #lrnchat
9:18:58 pm Dave_Ferguson: RT @kellygarber: collaboration [as term] wears thin b/c corps are realizing higher project costs as side effect. dont overuse. . #lrnchat
9:19:01 pm gwoodill: RT @ajeanne: You could maybe show the execs how to quickly get the latest ballgame scores on Twitter. Exactly! #lrnchat
9:19:08 pm marciamarcia: Margaret Mead speaks of “just 1″ committed person being able to change the world. RT @ChristianLong #lrnchat <starts w/U
9:19:11 pm JaneBozarth: Sorry have had it pointed out that I used Q3 a moment ago. I of course meant Q2. Time traveling again. #lrnchat
9:19:14 pm gminks: what?? RT @atsc: @allisunelearns Yes and you can embed wave in Blackboard as well… #lrnchat
9:19:14 pm Quinnovator: @atsc similar experience; seems good for short uses, otherwise seems to get unmanageable (but haven't finished online guide yet) #lrnchat
9:19:25 pm nancyrubin: soc media tools – do you use open source or enterprise apps? These are things that you'll have to consider. #lrnchat
9:19:26 pm mpetersell: @bjoernlasse share specifics on yammer? #lrnchat
9:19:28 pm jadekaz: RT @minutebio: Q2) Tried to sell Linked In.. moderate success until 500 lay-offs announced. Could not get on linkedIn quick enough #lrnchat
9:19:30 pm ajeanne: @gwoodill You could point them to some great exec blogs & twitter feeds. #lrnchat
9:19:32 pm sahana2802: RT @JaneBozarth Use their terms. "We need to capture tacit knowledge" we need to shore up succession planning #lrnchat Tacit knowldg works!
9:19:34 pm ValerieRoberts: RT @allisunelearns: @nancyrubin You can embed Google #Wave in Moodle, embed Twitter streams, embed almost everything : ) #lrnchat
9:19:34 pm bjoernlasse: RT @JaneBozarth: Quit saying social use their terms. "We need to capture tacit knowledge" we need to shore up succession planning" #lrnchat
9:19:38 pm Dave_Ferguson: @urbie Got that from Wikiquote; read a little GS as undergrad. I prefer history repeats, 1st as tragedy, 2nd as farce. #lrnchat
9:19:39 pm minutebio: RT @bjoernlasse: @mpetersell @tmiket I have really good experience with yammer! works great!! –IT should accept quicker too #lrnchat
9:19:44 pm rec54: @JoanVinallCox LMS? Do we still use those? :-) #lrnchat #dl09
9:19:45 pm urbie: @gwoodill "Run Forrest! Run!" – just do it n see what happens? #lrnchat
9:19:48 pm reward75: We have a link from our LMS to our SharePoint wikis and boards. Can't do the reverse easily though. #lrnchat
9:19:55 pm chrisstjohn: David Pogue reports that starting next week, Verizon will DOUBLE the early termination fee for smartphones. http://bit.ly/3EDqeO #lrnchat
9:19:58 pm rec54: RT @JoanVinallCox: RT @hjarche: @kelly_smith01 easy to integrate soc media tools with LMS – dump the LMS ;-) #lrnchat
9:20:00 pm gps03: @atsc Yes becasue it is much more than just documents #lrnchat
9:20:01 pm JaneBozarth: @gminks Yes you CAN embed Wave in BBoard #lrnchat
9:20:04 pm ajeanne: @gwoodill I thought you'd like the ballgame idea… What interests them? What do they need to know in the moment? #lrnchat
9:20:11 pm dwilkinsnh: Until you can get rid of govt requirements, we aren't getting rid of the LMS – we should focus on how we use soc learning w/ LMS #lrnchat
9:20:22 pm nancyrubin: @ValerieRoberts also love Polldaddy for quick polls – students like better than surveys #lrnchat
9:20:22 pm Quinnovator: @gps03 thanks, will check out #lrnchat
9:20:25 pm elatedca: @SueSchnorr: naturally, adult learning principles are at play in SocMed..we were raised by other humans not wolves ;-) #lrnchat
9:20:31 pm chrisstjohn: How about “Learning at the Point of NEED” ? #lrnchat
9:20:35 pm jadekaz: RT @rec54: RT @JoanVinallCox: RT @hjarche: @kelly_smith01 easy to integrate soc media tools with LMS – dump the LMS ;-) #lrnchat
9:20:44 pm atsc: @rec54 Our university is just migrating to Blackboard 9… From WebCT Vista 4… #lrnchat
9:20:46 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @rec54: @JoanVinallCox LMS? Do we still use those? :-) #lrnchat #dl09 Not me! #lrnchat
9:21:07 pm klowey22: RT @chrisstjohn: How about “Learning at the Point of NEED” ? #lrnchat
9:21:11 pm JaneBozarth: @ValerieRoberts @sahana2802 Oooh Oooh “We need to HARNESS their knowledge!” Yeah, that’s the ticket…sounds like control… #lrnchat
9:21:15 pm ajeanne: RT @chrisstjohn: How about “Learning at the Point of NEED” ? #lrnchat
9:21:17 pm Dave_Ferguson: @elatedca You sure about the “no wolves” group? #lrnchat
9:21:28 pm bjoernlasse: Which LMS is used most often? Why is there no killer LMS out there? #lrnchat
9:21:33 pm JaneBozarth: @rec54 had that conversation today… some think yes. #lrnchat
9:21:37 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @klowey22: RT @chrisstjohn: How about “Learning at the Point of NEED” ? #lrnchat
9:21:39 pm hjarche: types of orgs that are scared of a single word http://is.gd/4TP1y probably aren’t receptive to social media for learning either #lrnchat
9:21:41 pm Dave_Ferguson: I don’t use LMS, but if you think orgs don’t, you need to get out more. #lrnchat
9:21:45 pm ajeanne: RT @sahana2802 Oooh Oooh “We need to HARNESS their knowledge!” Yeah, thats the ticket…sounds like control… #lrnchat
9:21:51 pm atsc: @dwilkinsnh But there are already unused tools in the LMS… Discussion, chat… Aren’t these social tools? #lrnchat
9:21:56 pm gwoodill: @ajeanne I once got a reluctant faculty member to use a computer because she played the horses. Showed her gambling sites. #lrnchat
9:22:00 pm alexismac: I have shown Twitter power by asking a question suggested by the person and seeing how long the answer takes. Worked so far. #lrnchat
9:22:01 pm Quinnovator: @dwilkinsnh yes, but social for both formal and informal, LMS really just formal, no? #lrnchat
9:22:06 pm allisunelearns: I feel like Social Media tools are scattered without the organization of an LMS and ability to check in on student reports. #lrnchat
9:22:06 pm bjoernlasse: To implement new SoMe tech is active support of executive level good or bad? #lrnchat
9:22:11 pm urbie: what’s the web 2.0 equivalent of online social (media) disease? #lrnchat
9:22:18 pm rec54: @dwilkinsnh The govt requires you to use an LMS? #lrnchat #dl09
9:22:22 pm usablelearning: Good Question! RT @bjoernlasse Which LMS is used most often? Why is there no killer LMS out there? #lrnchat
9:22:35 pm dwilkinsnh: If we already have LMS, why not take a federated approach and use best of breed apps at what they are good at, aggregate in LMS? #lrnchat
9:22:44 pm AveyCa: @bjoernlasse LMS came out of the data world, not the user world. #lrnchat
9:22:49 pm kelly_smith01: Was wathing History channel show on inventions1st invention was fire, then an LMS, third invention a club for the LMS #lrnchat
9:22:49 pm SrtaOwens: Hello, I’m a first timer. What’s the topic for tonight? #lrnchat
9:22:50 pm jadekaz: RT @alexismac: I have shown Twitter power by asking a question suggested by the person and seeing how long the answer takes. Worked #lrnchat
9:23:00 pm JaneBozarth: @ranig2u yes #lrnchat
9:23:06 pm reward75: @bjoernlasse there isn’t a killer one because LMSs are all about training and learning is more than just training. #lrnchat
9:23:14 pm carmean: @usablelearning Blackboard bought and killed the killer LMS. (angel) #lrnchat
9:23:15 pm JaneBozarth: @usablelearning There is. It’s called Facebook. #lrnchat
9:23:20 pm gminks: viruses, some nasty ones floating around right now RT @urbie: whats the web 2.0 equivalent of online social (media) disease? #lrnchat
9:23:27 pm Quinnovator: RT @alexismac: have shown Twitter power by asking question suggested by the person and seeing how long answer takes. Worked so far. #lrnchat
9:23:29 pm ajeanne: RT @alexismac: I have shown Twitter power by asking a question suggested by the person and seeing how long the answer takes. Worked #lrnchat
9:23:31 pm dwilkinsnh: @usablelearning Does this mean you didn’t see that Learn has won best LMS three years in a row? /end advertising #lrnchat
9:23:33 pm chambo_online: RT @kelly_smith01: History channel show on inventions1st invention was fire, then an LMS, third invention a club for the LMS #lrnchat
9:23:33 pm espnguyen: HA! RT @rec54: @dwilkinsnh The govt requires you to use an LMS? #dl09 #lrnchat
9:23:46 pm Mary_a_Myers: i think LMS just formal…”tracking” of informal could be a gentler experience (they get the “job” done, find what they need. #lrnchat
9:23:47 pm Dave_Ferguson: @SrtaOwens Getting people/orgs to add social tools to learning. And not using the word “affordance.” #lrnchat
9:23:54 pm urbie: @bjoernlasse anecdotal evidence suggests someone not-in-the-know made a decision – kinetics des the rest #lrnchat
9:23:54 pm nancyrubin: LMS is our online classroom – structures everything else – not all are as “open” as others #lrnchat
9:23:59 pm atsc: @reward75 You must be from the corporate LMS world… Our LMS use is all about learning… #lrnchat
9:24:00 pm ranig2u: @SrtaOwens welcome. its about getting social media into your org #lrnchat
9:24:00 pm allisunelearns: @AveyCa I think Moodle came out of a user world : ) #lrnchat
9:24:01 pm mpetersell: RT @jadekaz: RT @alexismac: I have shown Twitter power by asking a question and seeing how long the answer takes. – clever #lrnchat
9:24:04 pm AveyCa: RT @reward75: @bjoernlasse there isnt a killer one because LMSs are all about training and learning is more than just training. #lrnchat
9:24:07 pm minutebio: RT @SrtaOwens: Q1b) If you’ve braved the social media for learning pitch already, what suggestions do you have for others? #lrnchat
9:24:26 pm dwilkinsnh: @Quinnovator Agreed, but there are some good tools in LMS — discussion, chat, VILT, ask an expert, shared spaces, social profiles #lrnchat
9:24:30 pm tmiket: No killer LMS cause it takes to much effort to get stuff into it..turn around is too slow and only certain people can make entries #lrnchat
9:24:30 pm gwoodill: @carmean We are listing 108 LMSs in our database. The market is not dead yet. #lrnchat
9:24:36 pm bjoernlasse: @mpetersell 1st must have a #yammer champion – then ppl just used it more and more – it grew organically just like twitter #lrnchat
9:24:40 pm ValerieRoberts: RT @bjoernlasse: Which LMS is used most often? Why is there no killer LMS out there? #lrnchat {our LMS tries to kill us, does that count?}
9:24:44 pm hjarche: @dwilkinsnh sounds like the federalist papers, Dave; what about small pieces “loosely” joined for system resilience? #lrnchat
9:24:48 pm espnguyen: LMS’s don’t need to be only formal. Need to be adaptive, right @rec54? #lrnchat
9:24:52 pm chambo_online: BB=Blackboard=Big Brother…coincidence? I think not. #lrnchat
9:24:52 pm atsc: @nancyrubin I didn’t think any LMS systems were truly open… Even open source ones like Moodle… #lrnchat
9:24:55 pm spotlearning: @SrtaOwens Welcome. I’m running behind and l8 myself, but you can always peek @lrnchat for the questions #lrnchat.
9:25:12 pm allisunelearns: LOL RT @kelly_smith01: Watchng History channl show on invntions1st invntion was fire, then an LMS, third invntin a club for the LMS #lrnchat
9:25:09 pm billbrandon: http://twitpic.com/pav54 – lrnchat live board at #dl09 #lrnchat
9:25:15 pm chrisstjohn: A LMS gives numbers, ie data. Isnt that what ROI is all about? I trashed the ROI idea. It should be “VOI”/VALUE on investment #lrnchat
9:25:18 pm nancyrubin: Social Media ROI – http://www.viddler.com/explore/thebrandbuilder/videos/4/ #lrnchat
9:25:25 pm Dave_Ferguson: Agree w/ @dwilkinsnh re LMS — and many in orgs don’t want to / lack time to stitch together a bunch of loosely joined stuff… #lrnchat
9:25:28 pm da5idm: @dwilkinsnh aggregate, yes. In the island lms, i am unconvinced. #lrnchat
9:25:30 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @chambo_online: BB=Blackboard=Big Brother…coincidence? I think not. #lrnchat
9:25:31 pm bjoernlasse: RT @reward75: @bjoernlasse there isn’t a killer one because LMSs are all about training and learning is more than just training. #lrnchat
9:25:36 pm dwilkinsnh: @Mary_a_Myers Anything but, tracking of social learning is going to be deep — just look at marketing equivalents #lrnchat
9:25:37 pm Dave_Ferguson: …that’s neither good nor bad, it’s just their reality. #lrnchat
9:25:39 pm rec54: @carmean @usablelearning the “killer LMS” is not going to be an LMS #lrnchat #dl09
9:25:42 pm reward75: @atsc We’re trying but every creative step is met by an LMS wall, hence why we’ve added SharePoint. I’m ready to dump our LMS #lrnchat
9:25:45 pm billbrandon: http://twitpic.com/pav91 – lrnchat table at #dl09 #lrnchat
9:25:49 pm usablelearning: Like that! > JaneBozarth @usablelearning There is [a good learning management system]. It’s called Facebook. #lrnchat
9:25:59 pm ajeanne: @chambo_online Blackboard has a discussion feature… I guess that might count. #lrnchat
9:26:09 pm tmiket: Nice! Hello DevLearners RT @billbrandon: http://twitpic.com/pav54 – lrnchat live board at #dl09 #lrnchat
9:26:10 pm bjoernlasse: RT @AveyCa: @bjoernlasse LMS came out of the data world, not the user world. #lrnchat
9:26:13 pm mpetersell: RT @nancyrubin: Social Media ROI – http://www.viddler.com/explore/thebrandbuilder/videos/4/ #lrnchat
9:26:15 pm gminks: here is a presentation on SoMe we made to our execs: http://bit.ly/yitrh #lrnchat
9:26:31 pm atsc: @reward75 Yes we have an LMS and sharepoint now… It is going to get interesting… #lrnchat
9:26:49 pm espnguyen: Hey that’s me! RT @billbrandon: http://twitpic.com/pav91 – lrnchat table at #dl09 #lrnchat
9:26:49 pm bjoernlasse: @gminks good job ;) #lrnchat
9:26:51 pm rec54: Ha! RT @kelly_smith01: watching History channel on inventions1st invention was fire, then an LMS, third was a club for the LMS #lrnchat
9:26:53 pm reward75: Kewl! RT @billbrandon: http://twitpic.com/pav91 – lrnchat table at #dl09 #lrnchat
9:26:55 pm Schnicker: Were trying to be that killer LMS, takes time to change ppls ideas RT @bjoernlasse: Why is there no killer LMS out there? #lrnchat
9:27:01 pm hjarche: minions need to show ROI to get an audience – executives just make gut-level decisions #lrnchat
9:27:01 pm dwilkinsnh: @hjarche Microblog, blog, wiki where they make sense, aggregate via RSS, links, embeds in LMS when it makes sense #lrnchat
9:27:04 pm Quinnovator: RT @billbrandon: http://twitpic.com/pav91 – lrnchat table at #dl09 #lrnchat
9:27:07 pm Dave_Ferguson: @rec54 Good rhetorical Q. LMS will fade like WordStar when better-than-LMS sneaks in. #lrnchat
9:27:08 pm gminks: Hi everyone @ #dl09 – where is @cammybean ????? #lrnchat
9:27:19 pm JaneBozarth: @rec54 @carmean @usable learning. The “killer LMS” is Facebook. #lrnchat
9:27:26 pm chambo_online: @ajeanne Not open, taggable, or searchable… not what I would define as SoMe. #lrnchat
9:27:27 pm mpetersell: @gminks did you have success with this? #lrnchat
9:27:27 pm urbie: i’m fond of the ANGEL LMS. Drop-dead simple to use. #lrnchat/
9:27:37 pm JaneBozarth: @Dave_Ferguson Promise? #lrnchat
9:27:51 pm jadekaz: Thought: (the right) training is hard enough to sell, much less *scary* Internet “collaboration” tools #lrnchat
9:27:52 pm JaneBozarth: RT @hjarche: minions need to show ROI to get an audience – executives just make gut-level decisions #lrnchat
9:27:57 pm alexismac: RT @billbrandon: http://twitpic.com/pav91 – lrnchat table at #dl09 #lrnchat
9:28:03 pm bschlenker: Devlearn #lrnchat -ers meet at DemoFest for group photo 6:45 #dl09
9:28:06 pm hjarche: @dwilkinsnh agree – RSS is the glue that keeps it all together #lrnchat
9:28:08 pm JaneBozarth: May I just point out that @hjarche is being quite brilliant this evening? #lrnchat
9:28:11 pm SueSchnorr: RT @JaneBozarth: @rec54 @carmean @usable learning. The “killer LMS” is Facebook. #lrnchat
9:28:13 pm carmean: @gminks Cammy is doing DemoFest, rocking it showing Kineo. #lrnchat
9:28:14 pm ajeanne: @chambo_online Thanks! #lrnchat
9:28:15 pm Quinnovator: @hjarche @dwilkinsnh federalist papers, mandated LMSs? Sounds like socialism #lrnchat
9:28:23 pm atsc: @JaneBozarth You will force everyone to use facebook? #lrnchat
9:28:25 pm spotlearning: I find that we’re trying to reinvent SoMe tools so they work behind the firewall…tho it’s a fool’s errand and a bandaid bridge. #lrnchat
9:28:30 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @hjarche: @dwilkinsnh agree – RSS is the glue that keeps it all together #lrnchat
9:28:31 pm Mary_a_Myers: @gminks @cammybean is demo-ing in demofest at #dl09 #lrnchat
9:28:36 pm gminks: @mpetersell yes, we were already doing some things, we were able to get them more interested in doing more #lrnchat
9:28:42 pm gminks: @carmean ahhh cool!!! #lrnchat
9:28:42 pm JaneBozarth: RT @gminks: Hi everyone @ #dl09 – where is @cammybean ????? #lrnchat
9:28:45 pm Dave_Ferguson: @JaneBozarth Whaddya mean “this evening?” #lrnchat
9:29:01 pm JaneBozarth: @atsc What? #lrnchat
9:29:09 pm espnguyen: @gminks @cammybean just stopped by here. she said she’s beat. #dl09 #lrnchat
9:29:12 pm hjarche: @Quinnovator nah, just good ol’ fashioned fascism #lrnchat
9:29:13 pm tmiket: RT @JoanVinallCox: RT @hjarche: @dwilkinsnh agree – RSS is the glue that keeps it all together #lrnchat
9:29:14 pm atsc: @JoanVinallCox But confusing glue for the unkowledgeable #lrnchat
9:29:26 pm SrtaOwens: @minutebio @spotlearning That makes sense now. Check out @lrnchat for ed questions. I’m warming up and ready to give my 2c #lrnchat
9:29:28 pm JaneBozarth: @Dave_Ferguson Well, I should have said, “as usual” LOL #lrnchat
9:29:31 pm kellygarber: RT @hjarche: minions need to show ROI to get an audience – executives just make gut-level decisions #lrnchat
9:29:33 pm bjoernlasse: How can LMS and SoMe merge? #lrnchat @reward75
9:29:34 pm dwilkinsnh: @Quinnovator I think you’re trolling me Clark. Libertarian != socialist… ; ) #lrnchat
9:29:41 pm bjoernlasse: @Schnicker whats your URL? #lrnchat
9:29:49 pm nancyrubin: LMS is probably here to stay – publishers investing in them big time – Pearson/eCollege and NY Times and Epsilen (just bought) #lrnchat
9:29:51 pm jadekaz: @atsc Hope not, because I quit Facebook. Twitter is my only love now. #lrnchat
9:30:00 pm chambo_online: #dl09 table wave hello to #lrnchatters in your next photo… :-) #lrnchat
9:30:01 pm Quinnovator: @chambo_online 5ables: searchable, tagable, editable, feedable, linkable #lrnchat
9:30:05 pm gminks: @espnguyen awww. hug @cammybean for the new england folks!! #lrnchat
9:30:07 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @atsc: @JoanVinallCox But confusing glue for the unkowledgeable – True, and hard to intro b/c no print equivalent #lrnchat
9:30:16 pm SueSchnorr: RT @kellygarber: RT @hjarche: minions need to show ROI to get an audience – executives just make gut-level decisions #lrnchat
9:30:17 pm atsc: @bjoernlasse Seriously, you think they should merge? #lrnchat
9:30:25 pm rec54: @espnguyen you got it – Hamish Coates correctly warned that the current LMS is homogenizing the learning experience #dl09 #lrnchat
9:30:25 pm RedScareBot: Socialism tomorrow? RT @dwilkinsnh @Quinnovator I think you’re trolling me Clark. Libertarian != socialist… ; ) #lrnchat
9:30:28 pm nancyrubin: @tmiket probably XML (as I am learning) backbone of all portable content #lrnchat
9:30:28 pm gwoodill: @lyford Sure. List of LMSs is here. http://bit.ly/2AwaP #lrnchat
9:30:31 pm kelly_smith01: Hi to fellow Texan @billbrandon #lrnchat
9:30:33 pm RedScareBot: Don’t be CCCP RT @Quinnovator @hjarche @dwilkinsnh federalist papers, mandated LMSs? Sounds like socialism #lrnchat
9:30:39 pm Schnicker: And me! RT @espnguyen: Hey that’s me! RT @billbrandon: http://twitpic.com/pav91 – lrnchat table at #dl09 #lrnchat
9:30:41 pm gps03: RT @Quinnovator: @chambo_online 5ables: searchable, tagable, editable, feedable, linkable #lrnchat
9:30:47 pm lrnchat: Q3) Which tips, tools, approaches, links, lessons-learned can you offers here to help others with their pitch? #lrnchat
9:30:53 pm dwilkinsnh: Here’s the thing: LMS = people data, existing feeds (HRIS etc..), web services, API’s, permissions, and **we own it** #lrnchat
9:30:58 pm bjoernlasse: Maybe FB style will be a standard to future apps @atsc: @JaneBozarth #lrnchat
9:31:06 pm hjarche: RSS and other techie talk – don’t tell folks what they don’t need to know #lrnchat
9:31:13 pm pedepede2: RT @Quinnovator: @chambo_online 5ables: searchable, tagable, editable, feedable, linkable #lrnchat
9:31:15 pm gminks: @dwilkinsnh @Quinnovator y’all invoked the red scare. LOL #lrnchat
9:31:22 pm ranig2u: RT @lrnchat: Q3) Which tips, tools, approaches, links, lessons-learned can you offers here to help others with their pitch? #lrnchat
9:31:26 pm tmiket: Always preaching thisRT @gps03: RT @Quinnovator: @chambo_online 5ables: searchable, tagable, editable, feedable, linkable #lrnchat
9:31:33 pm mpetersell: RT @lrnchat: Q3) Which tips, tools, approaches, links, lessons-learned can you offers here to help others with their pitch? #lrnchat
9:31:33 pm urbie: urbi@SueSchnorr killer LMS is text-messaging on a cell phone – the community makes it work – #lrnchat
9:31:48 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q3) Which tips, tools, approaches, links, lessons-learned can you offers here to help others with their pitch? #lrnchat
9:31:48 pm chambo_online: @bjoernlasse open it up- RT@Quinnovator @chambo_online 5-ables: searchable, tagable, editable, feedable, linkable #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:31:49 pm tmiket: RT @lrnchat: Q3) Which tips, tools, approaches, links, lessons-learned can you offers here to help others with their pitch? #lrnchat
9:31:55 pm elatedca: heard “killer app” in SocMed is other people RT @rec54: @carmean @usablelearning the “killer LMS” is not going.. #lrnchat #dl09
9:32:00 pm jmarrapodi: RT @spotlearning: We’re trying to reinvent SoMe tools so they work behind the firewall–tho its a fools errand & bandaid bridge. #lrnchat
9:32:03 pm LearningPutty: Q3 – tips to help with Social Media pitch: focus on the tool not on the technology #lrnchat
9:32:06 pm usablelearning: It’s a tiny box we put ourselves in > RT @rec54 … current LMS is homogenizing the learning experience #dl09 #lrnchat
9:32:07 pm dwilkinsnh: Crazy for us to push for Wave / Sharepoint etc… –> IT owns these and they lack HRIS feeds, shared profile data… etc… #lrnchat
9:32:10 pm Dave_Ferguson: @RedScareBot It ain’t socialism if you claim Ayn Rand said it. #lrnchat
9:32:10 pm reward75: @bjoernlasse We’re working on that. LMSs should be more open and not closed to innovation #lrnchat
9:32:12 pm ajeanne: Joseph McCarthy is turning over in his grave. #lrnchat
9:32:16 pm JoanVinallCox: Q3 Be ready for “teachable moments” & tell relevant stories, over & over #lrnchat
9:32:23 pm bjoernlasse: @atsc How do fit traditional top-down edu and informal bottom-up learning together? #lrnchat
9:32:25 pm sahana2802: RT @lrnchat Q3) Which tips, tools, approaches, links, lessons-learned can you offers here to help others with their pitch? #lrnchat
9:32:30 pm tmiket: Q3 Use example of RSS to bring info TO you instead of you trying to go and get it #lrnchat
9:32:36 pm carmean: Focus on ROI? Cost savings? Solving specific problems? #lrnchat
9:32:37 pm Steli: It’s not about implementing social media apps / its about implementing social design #lrnchat
9:32:39 pm spotlearning: Q3) Focus on biz value; not simply learning value. Look at SoMe for perf. support applications first…easier to quantify #lrnchat
9:32:45 pm hjarche: Q3) My pitch on social media for learning: http://is.gd/4Np6U #lrnchat
9:32:48 pm espnguyen: RT @bschlenker: Devlearn #lrnchat -ers meet at DemoFest for group photo 6:45 #dl09
9:32:50 pm jmarrapodi: RT @jadekaz: Thought: (the right) training is hard enough to sell, much less *scary* Internet “collaboration” tools #lrnchat
9:32:55 pm gminks: Q3 listen for the biz need, don’t be disappointed the first 15 times you try & explain it. keep revising the pitch to meet the biz #lrnchat
9:32:57 pm allisunelearns: I feel like Facebook = space for my social non-work non-schl life. I wouldn’t want more, as millenial this is one of our ‘traits’. #lrnchat
9:33:05 pm gminks: RT @tmiket: Q3 Use example of RSS to bring info TO you instead of you trying to go and get it #lrnchat
9:33:09 pm lyford: @gwoodill Thanks that will be very informative. #lrnchat
9:33:13 pm JaneBozarth: 1/2 Q3: baby steps, outcomes/benefits, not “look ain’t this cool”…and DEMO something useful, don’t just TALK #lrnchat
9:33:14 pm ranig2u: q3 – start small, think big, play a lot with SoMe #lrnchat
9:33:16 pm da5idm: Forward thinking lms providers r making features, tracking, & data models avail via web service & portlet-so can happen anywhere #lrnchat
9:33:26 pm urbie: @lrnchat find the earlier-adopter in your work-group to use as a sounding-board/pilot – if you can’t get her on-board you’re lost. #lrnchat
9:33:28 pm atsc: @bjoernlasse If I had the answer to that I would be a little richer and more god like than I am now!!! ;-) #lrnchat
9:33:31 pm LearningPutty: Q3) Try to leverage current expenses… employer already pay for cell use? Use text message to reinforce key points… #lrnchat
9:33:32 pm jmarrapodi: RT @lrnchat Q3) Which tips, tools, approaches, links, lessons-learned can you offers here to help others with their pitch? #lrnchat
9:33:33 pm hjarche: @JaneBozarth I’m blushing #lrnchat
9:33:40 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @ajeanne: Joseph McCarthy is turning over in his grave. Good! Hope he’s VERY uncomfortable #lrnchat
9:33:41 pm JaneBozarth: 2/2 Drives me crazy…”Let me tell you about Twitter”.. #lrnchat
9:33:43 pm Mary_a_Myers: q3) i find this social media revolution video makes ppl think http://bit.ly/4DLpNK #lrnchat
9:33:44 pm MariaOD: RT @espnguyen RT @bschlenker: Devlearn #lrnchat -ers meet at DemoFest for group photo 6:45 #dl09<< use at mtg, use at conf, etc. #lrnchat
9:34:22 pm pedepede2: RT @ranig2u: q3 – start small, think big, play a lot with SoMe #lrnchat
9:34:22 pm JaneBozarth: RT @JoanVinallCox Q3 Be ready for “teachable moments” & tell relevant stories, over & over #lrnchat
9:34:24 pm DesignRT: RT: RT @Steli: Its not about implementing social media apps / its about implementing social design #lrnchat http://bit.ly/14cGRX
9:34:29 pm nancyrubin: 100 ways to use social media in learning – http://c4lpt.co.uk/handbook/examples.html #lrnchat
9:34:30 pm usablelearning: RT @lrnchat: Q3) Which tips, tools, approaches, links, lessons-learned can you offers here to help others with their pitch? #lrnchat
9:34:32 pm minutebio: Q3) Prototype with SoMe friendly group first and show/demo results. Show positive results, even if anecdotal #lrnchat
9:34:33 pm jadekaz: RT @marciamarcia: Wow. This is what a roomfull of ppl at #devlearn09 doing #lrnchat looks like. http://twitpic.com/pav91 #dl09 #lrnchat
9:34:35 pm atsc: Q3: Find the problem, analyse the need, develop the solution using Social tools… #lrnchat
9:34:35 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) Transcript from #lrnchat – or plan showing case studies and a way to show ROI and value outside traditional training value #lrnchat
9:34:39 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat Q3 – have an unofficial organizational SoMe – twitter, FB, etc. for educational purposes !
9:34:42 pm ajeanne: @marciamarcia Thanks for posting the pic! #lrnchat
9:34:45 pm dwilkinsnh: Q3) Sell existing stories, esp Cisco, Best Buy, Intel, Ace Hardware, Caterpillar, Ford, GE, P&G, Scottrade, British Airways… #lrnchat
9:34:50 pm JaneBozarth: @marciamarcia They’re being productive and collaborative. #lrnchat
9:34:53 pm JaneBozarth: RT @marciamarcia: Wow. This is what a roomfull of ppl at #devlearn09 doing #lrnchat looks like. http://twitpic.com/pav91 #dl09
9:34:53 pm hjarche: RT @marciamarcia Wow. This is what a roomfull of ppl at #devlearn09 doing #lrnchat looks like. http://twitpic.com/pav91
9:34:55 pm richchetwynd: Amazed the massive +ve influence Twitter has had on #dl09 It’s hard to imagine social media not having a big role in learning #lrnchat
9:34:57 pm gminks: RT @JaneBozarth: 1/2 Q3: baby steps, outcomes/benefits, not “look aint this cool”…and DEMO something useful, dont just TALK #lrnchat
9:35:01 pm LearningPutty: exactly – right tool 4 job. RT @lyford: RT @Steli: Its not implementing social media apps / its about implementing social design #lrnchat
9:35:09 pm chrisstjohn: RT @marciamarcia: Wow. This is what a roomfull of ppl at #devlearn09 doing #lrnchat looks like. http://twitpic.com/pav91 #dl09
9:35:10 pm Quinnovator: Q3: I point others to @dwilkinsnh excellent list of success stories: http://bit.ly/K16NU #lrnchat
9:35:16 pm JaneBozarth: RT @kzenovka: #lrnchat Q3 – have an unofficial organizational SoMe – twitter, FB, etc. for educational purposes !
9:35:16 pm bjoernlasse: @da5idm Is improving an LMS like repairing an old tire ? #lrnchat @Quinnovator @chambo_online
9:35:16 pm allisunelearns: RT @Mary_a_Myers: q3) i find this social media revolution video makes ppl think http://bit.ly/4DLpNK #lrnchat
9:35:18 pm gminks: RT @Steli: Its not about implementing social media apps / its about implementing social design #lrnchat http://bit.ly/14cGRX #lrnchat
9:35:20 pm Dave_Ferguson: Q3: I think it’s also good not to overclaim/overhype. Highlight flexibility / adaptability, “not cast in concrete.” #lrnchat
9:35:20 pm ajeanne: RT @minutebio: Q3) Prototype with SoMe friendly group first and show/demo results. Show positive results, even if anecdotal #lrnchat
9:35:29 pm jmarrapodi: Hi #devlearn09 folks! You look great in @marciamarcia’s picture. #lrnchat
9:35:37 pm JaneBozarth: RT @Quinnovator: Q3: I point others to @dwilkinsnh excellent list of success stories: http://bit.ly/K16NU #lrnchat
9:35:42 pm tmiket: RT @Quinnovator: Q3: I point others to @dwilkinsnh excellent list of success stories: http://bit.ly/K16NU #lrnchat
9:35:44 pm reward75: Q3) Get to know the IT people and ask questions, understand their limitations. You won’t be such a bother if you’re understanding #lrnchat
9:35:44 pm Quinnovator: @gminks yeah, and that’s more scary than my comment! #lrnchat
9:35:46 pm allisunelearns: RT @nancyrubin: 100 ways to use social media in learning – http://c4lpt.co.uk/handbook/examples.html #lrnchat
9:35:49 pm marciamarcia: It’s “think, and do” followed by “show, don’t tell.” RT @Dave_Ferguson #lrnchat
9:35:52 pm ajeanne: RT @dwilkinsnh: Q3) Sell existing stories, esp Cisco, Best Buy, Intel, Ace Hardware, Caterpillar, Ford, GE, P&G, … #lrnchat
9:35:56 pm chambo_online: Q3) Promote it with a few forward thinkers, get core “believers” and inspire others by modeling benefits. #lrnchat
9:35:58 pm ranig2u: RT @Steli: Its not about implementing social media apps / its about implementing social design #lrnchat http://bit.ly/14cGRX #lrnchat
9:36:03 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: Q3: I point others to @dwilkinsnh excellent list of success stories: http://bit.ly/K16NU #lrnchat
9:36:05 pm MariaOD: @espnguyen better than Cancun Ida was relentless. Food always awesome at conferences probably cuz our brains are fried! Lol #lrnchat #dl09
9:36:10 pm tmiket: @Dave_Ferguson ..as in under promise and over deliver..good advice #lrnchat
9:36:11 pm bjoernlasse: RT @LearningPutty: exactly RT @lyford: RT @Steli: Its not implementing social media apps / its about implementing social design #lrnchat
9:36:17 pm gwoodill: @chrisstjohn Brandon Hall doesn’t ignore any LMS – you just have to fill out our questionnaire to be l #lrnchat
9:36:23 pm atsc: Q3: Don’t sell, don’t market. Find a solution to a problem… #lrnchat
9:36:25 pm gminks: RT @marciamarcia: Its “think, and do” followed by “show, dont tell.” RT @Dave_Ferguson #lrnchat
9:36:25 pm dwilkinsnh: Q3) Another great tactic: ask them if they have ever made a major purchase without checking ratings / reviews… enough said #lrnchat
9:36:34 pm LearningPutty: These tips have been well received: http://bit.ly/ShSvf #lrnchat
9:36:39 pm JaneBozarth: I am photoshopping the #dl09 photo now… #lrnchat
9:36:44 pm minutebio: Get execs on Twitter or yammer and tweet results from SoMe including increased sales, reduced errors/losses etc. #lrnchat
9:36:49 pm chum: RT @atsc: Q3: Find the problem, analyse the need, develop the solution using Social tools… #lrnchat
9:36:53 pm ValerieRoberts: @dwilkinsnh We use the ‘My Site’ add to SharePoint and it does include profile data but, yep – lots of discussion about who owns #lrnchat
9:36:54 pm ajeanne: @JoanVinallCox I agree about Joseph McCarthy. He was twisted in life & I’m guessing he’ll have to spin a long time after. #lrnchat
9:36:59 pm Dave_Ferguson: Panel discussion on ADDIE: http://bit.ly/q6GcY #lrnchat
9:37:03 pm jmarrapodi: RT @ranig2u: RT @Steli: Its not about implementing SoMe apps / its about implementing social design #lrnchat http://bit.ly/14cGRX #lrnchat
9:37:05 pm mpetersell: Q3 – pick a simple media tool to start with – we chose wiki for onboarding new hires – easy for us to manage; no security concerns #lrnchat
9:37:08 pm chrisleblanc: tell them! :) RT @chrisstjohn: (Showing my age) When I was young, we didnt have geeks, we had NERDS. #lrnchat (via @gminks) Gifted not ADHD
9:37:13 pm JaneBozarth: RT @Steli: Its not about implementing social media apps / its about implementing social design #lrnchat http://bit.ly/14cGRX #lrnchat
9:37:15 pm bjoernlasse: @atsc hehe :) isn’t there a god in all of us? #lrnchat
9:37:15 pm usablelearning: Yep – never just about the technology > RT @gminks RT @Steli … its about implementing social design #lrnchat
9:37:18 pm marciamarcia: Credit goes to @billbrandon for the #lrnchat #dl09 photo. Thank you Bill.
9:37:24 pm ajeanne: RT @dwilkinsnh: Q3) Another great tactic: ask them if they have ever made a major purchase without checking ratings / reviews… #lrnchat
9:37:29 pm jmarrapodi: RT @dwilkinsnh: Q3) Another great tactic: ask them if they have ever made a major purchase without checking ratings / reviews #lrnchat
9:37:33 pm gminks: RT @reward75: Q3) Get to know the IT people & ask questions, understand their limitations. wont be such a bother if understanding #lrnchat
9:37:39 pm tmiket: Can I just set this thing to auto-retweet @dwilkinsnh? #lrnchat
9:37:49 pm insynctraining: Q3 RT @janebozarth Solve a problem #lrnchat
9:37:51 pm scottmerrett: RT @LearningPutty: These tips have been well received: http://bit.ly/ShSvf #lrnchat
9:38:01 pm LearningPutty: Q3) start something easy – like a blog for your group – so “doubters” can experience the opportunity first hand before “selling it” #lrnchat
9:38:04 pm ranig2u: make it personal – let them twitter with the stars ;) #lrnchat
9:38:12 pm sahana2802: 3. Engaged Learning: http://engagedlearning.net/ #lrnchat Posts that makes you think…on SoMe…
9:38:14 pm bjoernlasse: How do you change metrics for learning in companies? #lrnchat
9:38:16 pm ajeanne: @Steli: Isn’t it about improving performance? #lrnchat
9:38:22 pm jmarrapodi: RT @chum: RT @atsc: Q3: Find the problem, analyse the need, develop the solution using Social tools… [love that idea!] #lrnchat
9:38:22 pm hjarche: social media strategy framework http://is.gd/4TPsd can work for training & ed too #lrnchat
9:38:35 pm nancyrubin: social media is a great way to build community among workforce, something most business/corporations are interested in doing. #lrnchat
9:38:47 pm alexismac: If you’re not a part of SoMe you have no idea what people are saying about you, or your organization, or your training… #lrnchat Q3
9:38:50 pm dwilkinsnh: RT @Steli: Its not implementing social media apps / its about implementing social design #lrnchat
9:38:53 pm ValerieRoberts: RT @JaneBozarth: 1/2 Q3: baby steps, outcomes/benefits, not “look ain’t this cool”…and DEMO something useful, don’t just TALK #lrnchat
9:38:55 pm minutebio: Show the advantages the competitor has made using SoMe. #lrnchat
9:39:11 pm chambo_online: Q3)Post “first person to reply to this tweet gets a bonus in their paycheck”. They’ll become glued to Twitter. #lrnchat
9:39:13 pm Dave_Ferguson: Q3: ask people about their problems, what they’d like to [ have fixed | be easier | not have to guess at]. Start w/ needs. #lrnchat
9:39:15 pm dwilkinsnh: RT @sahana2802: 3. Engaged Learning: http://engagedlearning.net/ #lrnchat Posts that makes you think Kevin is the bomb! #lrnchat
9:39:20 pm JaneBozarth: @alexismac Right. They ARE talking. #lrnchat
9:39:27 pm Quinnovator: standard org change: start small, focus on a good success story, leverage the er, heck out of it #lrnchat
9:39:31 pm jmarrapodi: RT @scottmerrett: RT @LearningPutty: These tips on implementing SoMe have been well received: http://bit.ly/ShSvf #lrnchat
9:39:31 pm atsc: @LearningPutty Have tried wikis but they fall into disuse… They must be an integrated solution to a need or problem from start… #lrnchat
9:39:31 pm ranig2u: RT @minutebio: Show the advantages the competitor has made using SoMe. (or your clients!) #lrnchat
9:39:32 pm jadekaz: RT @richchetwynd: Amazed the massive +ve influence Twitter has had on #dl09 hard to imagine SoMe not having a big role in lrning #lrnchat
9:39:35 pm da5idm: Does lms=old tire? If they are not very careful, yes. @bjoernlasse #lrnchat
9:39:39 pm kelly_smith01: RT @minutebio: Show the advantages the competitor has made using SoMe. #lrnchat
9:39:40 pm ajeanne: RT @JaneBozarth: 1/2 Q3: baby steps, outcomes/benefits, not “look aint this cool”…and DEMO something useful, dont just TALK #lrnchat
9:39:49 pm jmarrapodi: RT @chambo_online: Q3)Post “first person to reply to this tweet gets a bonus in their paycheck”. Theyll become glued to Twitter. #lrnchat
9:39:50 pm urbie: @chrisleblanc i self-reported as a nerd back when Beanie wore a propellor on his chapeau – #lrnchat
9:39:52 pm espnguyen: @marciamarcia Have to admit it’s hard to #lrnchat and socialize, but I’m not complaining #dl09
9:40:05 pm Quinnovator: RT @chambo_online: Q3) Promote with a few forward thinkers, get core ‘believers’ and inspire others by modeling benefits. #lrnchat
9:40:09 pm kellygarber: RT @alexismac: If you’re not a part of SoMe you have no idea what people are saying about you, or your org, or your training… #lrnchat
9:40:09 pm eduinnovation: Do you want voice, reach, information, connection, knowledge, insight, then you want social media #lrnchat
9:40:18 pm ajeanne: RT @richchetwynd: Amazed the massive +ve influence Twitter has had on #dl09 hard to imagine SoMe not having a big role in lrning #lrnchat
9:40:20 pm nancyrubin: my company just released a new LMS/social learning tools system for HR and personal development. Lots of applications for pers. dev #lrnchat
9:40:29 pm JffZllr: @chrisstjohn: To repeat a Speaker today at DL09, “Social media is like sex if you arent doing it, you arent getting it.” #lrnchat
9:40:46 pm allisunelearns: Resources on Social Media – I have 20 bookmarks & counting at Delicious http://delicious.com/allisun/socialmedia #lrnchat
9:40:54 pm TerrenceWing: @bjoernlasse contact @schnicker if you have LMS questions. She is one of the most knowledgeable person I know on the topic of LMS. #lrnchat
9:40:55 pm atsc: @kellygarber You believe this??? How can you monitor that much traffic? #lrnchat
9:40:56 pm jmarrapodi: @sahana2802 Just got home. Glad to be in time for #lrnchat
9:41:03 pm mpetersell: Q3 – Introduce someone by saying I met them thru their blog or twitter or linked in #lrnchat
9:41:06 pm LearningPutty: IT is about security – SM scares = as it scares execs. RT @gminks: RT @reward75: Q3) Know IT & ask ?s, understand their limits. #lrnchat
9:41:09 pm kasey428: RT @chrisstjohn: To repeat a Speaker today at DL09, “Social media is like sex if you arent doing it, you arent getting it.” #lrnchat
9:41:11 pm JaneBozarth: @nancyrubin That’s good what’s the system/how did they combine? #lrnchat
9:41:22 pm jadekaz: Q3 Build your credibility and get small wins in what you do. Then, no matter how crazy your ideas are, people will listen. #lrnchat
9:41:26 pm minutebio: RT @chambo_online: Promote with a few forward thinkers, get core believers and inspire others by modeling benefits #lrnchat
9:41:28 pm ajeanne: I told the folks at a gov’t org that shall remain nameless that they are handicapped by not allowing 2.0. Security is king, tho. #lrnchat
9:41:29 pm Quinnovator: LOL (but drink!) RT @Dave_Ferguson: Panel discussion on ADDIE: http://bit.ly/q6GcY #lrnchat
9:41:39 pm tferraro: @jmarkow that’s not acceptable. it should not be that far behind. let me check it. #lrnchat? right?
9:41:43 pm marciamarcia: Have to admit it’s hard to #lrnchat and socialize, but I’m not complaining #dl09 RT @espnguyen <tough life :-)
9:41:43 pm tmiket: @kellygarber Totally agree and SoMe also includes F2F conversations which are like gold #lrnchat
9:41:49 pm usablelearning: Q3) Read "Diffusion of Innovation" :) #lrnchat
9:42:07 pm LearningPutty: @atsc True… you need to find the right tool for right problem… otherwise technology is of no use. #lrnchat
9:42:19 pm sahana2802: Reading:"7 Creative Ways to Introduce Social Media to Your Team", http://bit.ly/3VUo4V via #lrnchat
9:42:27 pm atsc: Develop an "integrated system"… #lrnchat
9:42:40 pm nancyrubin: @JaneBozarth looks like it is outsourced (as many are) – software as a service app targeted for that market all apps bundled #lrnchat
9:42:47 pm jwillensky: Good evening, #lrnchat posse. Hate when air travel is scheduled during #lrnchat.
9:42:55 pm gminks: LOL!!! RT @Quinnovator: LOL (but drink!) RT @Dave_Ferguson: Panel discussion on ADDIE: http://bit.ly/q6GcY #lrnchat
9:42:56 pm bjoernlasse: @TerrenceWing thx ;) #lrnchat
9:43:04 pm ranig2u: Is there a measurement of the SoMe economy? selling point? #lrnchat
9:43:08 pm mpetersell: @usablelearning is it longer than 140 characters? #lrnchat
9:43:10 pm carmean: @JffZllr @chrisstjohn The sex speaker was the amusing Ellen Wagner. #lrnchat
9:43:16 pm urbie: @MariaOD it's even better to involve the peeps with the solution – buy-in is a powerful/beautiful thing. #lrnchat
9:43:17 pm bjoernlasse: RT @sahana2802: Reading:"7 Creative Ways to Introduce Social Media to Your Team", http://bit.ly/3VUo4V via #lrnchat
9:43:23 pm gwoodill: @JffZllr Maybe social media is like casual sex. You might be getting it, but you're not quite sure what just happened. #lrnchat
9:43:26 pm kellygarber: @atsc Easy, you don't read it all, you read only what applies. What would execs learn if they did a keyword search of their corp? #lrnchat
9:43:27 pm carmean: @jwillensky Well, aren't you late! #lrnchat
9:43:27 pm MariaOD: @tmiket yep…one day we shall chat f2f!!! Ever go to the library? #lrnchat
9:43:41 pm JaneBozarth: YES. RT @usablelearning: Q3) Read "Diffusion of Innovation" :) #lrnchat
9:43:42 pm gminks: @kasey428 hey! #lrnchat
9:43:42 pm ranig2u: @jwillensky – fly virgin next time :) hiya #lrnchat
9:43:43 pm gps03: @ajeanne Smart Gov't agencies do web 2.0, we just make you push a "this is for business purposes button" every few seconds. #lrnchat
9:43:50 pm kasey428: Hello, from the DC area. Wish I were in San Jose. Work kept me away from lrnchat. #lrnchat
9:43:50 pm kelly_smith01: RT @ranig2u: Is there a measurement of the SoMe economy? selling point? #lrnchat
9:43:55 pm LearningPutty: BTW – Can I just say that I am jealous of all those at #dl09?!?! :) Keep sending good stuff back!! #lrnchat
9:44:05 pm chrisstjohn: Build your SoMe BIG plan using small successes. (aka Low Hanging Fruit) Start small and build a foundation. Increase over time. #lrnchat
9:44:13 pm JaneBozarth: @jwillensky Hey glad you made it. You feeling better? #lrnchat
9:44:29 pm LearningPutty: @sahana2802 Hope you find it helpful!! #lrnchat
9:44:30 pm tmiket: @MariaOD At the library all the time…in Worthington but would love to catch up F2F anytime #lrnchat
9:44:32 pm dwilkinsnh: Q3) Another idea: focus on analogues – Encyclopedia & News Industries — same thing is happening to us; be the change or be changed #lrnchat
9:44:33 pm ValerieRoberts: RT @mpetersell: Q3 – Introduce someone by saying I met them thru their blog or twitter or linked in #lrnchat
9:44:34 pm ajeanne: @gps03 I’m sure some gov’t agencies CAN do 2.0… some, however, are extremely security conscious. #lrnchat
9:44:40 pm gminks: what she said RT @LearningPutty: BTW – Can I just say that I am jealous of all those at #dl09?!?! Keep sending good stuff back!! #lrnchat
9:44:45 pm carmean: Social media as sex: To be good at it, you need practice. Might be painful at first. #lrnchat
9:44:59 pm nancyrubin: great video – social media revolution – http://bit.ly/1saZv #lrnchat
9:45:00 pm ConnectIrmeli: “listen, don’t be disappointed the first 15 times you try & explain it, keep revising” – best advice for unlearning! #lrnchat by @gminks Q3
9:45:01 pm jadekaz: Me, too. RT @LearningPutty: BTW – Can I just say that I am jealous of all those at #dl09?!?! :) Keep sending good stuff back!! #lrnchat
9:45:15 pm gminks: @kelly_smith01 selling point = expose the value networks, help everyone learn faster #lrnchat
9:45:18 pm reward75: Tru but knowing the limits helps you to work w/in them RT @LearningPutty: IT is about security – SM scares = as it scares execs. #lrnchat
9:45:23 pm drmmtatom: RT @eduinnovation: Do you want voice, reach, information, connection, knowledge, insight, then you want social media #lrnchat
9:45:33 pm kasey428: I followed the #dl09 tweet stream at lunch today hoping to pick up ideas on how to integrate SoMe with our existing content. #lrnchat
9:45:37 pm sahana2802: @LearningPutty It is well-written with some great links. #lrnchat
9:45:44 pm chambo_online: -@chrisstjohn @quinnovator “low hanging fruit” needs to be added to drinking game. #lrnchat
9:45:57 pm bjoernlasse: RT @nancyrubin: great video – social media revolution – http://bit.ly/1saZv #lrnchat
9:46:02 pm urbie: @ValerieRoberts i used that technique to get my job at unlv – helped me “know” the faculty interview team before i met them. #lrnchat
9:46:02 pm SrtaOwens: @carmean bad carmean, this is a public site #lrnchat
9:46:03 pm gminks: RT @dwilkinsnh: Q3) focus on analogues Encyclopedia & News Industries — same thing is happening to us; be the change or be changed #lrnchat
9:46:08 pm Quinnovator: :) RT @chambo_online: -@chrisstjohn @quinnovator “low hanging fruit” needs to be added to drinking game. #lrnchat
9:46:09 pm LearningPutty: Execs are afraid of new – but this technology is not new. Blogs, wikis, etc have been around but we have not used them 4 lrng. #lrnchat
9:46:10 pm dwilkinsnh: Q3) I’d also trot out some govt stories — Airforce, IRS, Intelligence community, Navy — kind of negates “security” concerns… #lrnchat
9:46:16 pm carmean: @gminks Sitting with @edwsonoma. She misses you too. #lrnchat
9:46:17 pm kelly_smith01: RT @LearningPutty: BTW – Can I just say that I am jealous of all those at #dl09?!?! :) Keep sending good stuff back!!>-> ditto #lrnchat
9:46:19 pm spotlearning: RT @dwilkinsnh: Q3) Another idea: focus on analogues … be the change or be changed #lrnchat < yes! Good tactic!
9:46:20 pm kasey428: @gminks Hi, Gina-girl #lrnchat
9:46:23 pm JaneBozarth: RT @chambo_online: -@chrisstjohn @quinnovator "low hanging fruit" needs to be added to drinking game. #lrnchat
9:46:35 pm gminks: DEFINITELY RT @chambo_online: -@chrisstjohn @quinnovator "low hanging fruit" needs to be added to drinking game. #lrnchat
9:46:37 pm tmiket: @reward75 knowing the limits also helps you PUSH them further! 8-) #lrnchat
9:46:38 pm ValerieRoberts: @jwillensky Hey Jason, glad you could make it! #lrnchat
9:46:45 pm allisunelearns: SoMe=power RT @eduinnovation: Do you want voice, reach, information, connection, knowledge, insight, then you want social media #lrnchat
9:46:58 pm gps03: @ajeanne No doubt! I happen to work for one. #lrnchat
9:47:09 pm kasey428: RT @dwilkinsnh: Q3) Id also trot out some govt stories — AF, IRS, Intel community, Navy — kind of negates "security" concerns… #lrnchat
9:47:10 pm ajeanne: RT @dwilkinsnh: Q3) focus on analogues Encyclopedia & News Industries -same thing is happening to us; be the change or be changed #lrnchat
9:47:13 pm chrisstjohn: RT @Quinnovator: :) R@chrisstjohn @quinnovator "low hanging fruit" needs to be added to drinking game. (OK, I'll get another beer.) #lrnchat
9:47:21 pm minutebio: RT @LearningPutty: BTW Can I just say that I am jealous of all those at #dl09?!?! Keep sending good stuff back! 3rd #lrnchat
9:47:26 pm da5idm: !!!! :) RT @chambo_online: -@chrisstjohn @quinnovator "low hanging fruit" needs to be added to drinking game. #lrnchat (via @Quinnovator)
9:47:31 pm gps03: @dwilkinsnh If only that worked! #lrnchat
9:47:35 pm reward75: Definitely that too! RT @tmiket: @reward75 knowing the limits also helps you PUSH them further! 8-) #lrnchat
9:47:52 pm dwilkinsnh: RT @LearningPutty: …this technology is not new. Blogs, wikis, etc have been around but we have not used them 4 lrng. #lrnchat
9:48:05 pm LearningPutty: Can't work w/in the limits when u are trying to branch out RT @reward75: Tru but knowing IT limits helps u 2 work w/in #lrnchat
9:48:07 pm chambo_online: @chrisstjohn lol #lrnchat
9:48:28 pm kasey428: @da5idm I will drink to that. #lrnchat
9:48:40 pm kellygarber: If execs know employees will use it, like it, and learn from it but execs don’t have to learn it, use it, or like it – sold! #lrnchat
9:48:41 pm gminks: I miss her too!! Come back to Boston!!!!! RT @carmean: @gminks Sitting with @edwsonoma. She misses you too. #lrnchat
9:48:43 pm jwillensky: @ValerieRoberts Hiya Val. Glad you’re representing us Phoenicians. #lrnchat
9:48:44 pm alexismac: A simple SoMe description: “Twitter is word-of-mouth on steroids.” Think this was from @ChrisLaBossiere #lrnchat
9:48:51 pm marciamarcia: Listen for biz need, don’t be disappointed the first 15x you try & explain it. Keep revising the pitch RT @gminks #lrnchat
9:48:56 pm Dave_Ferguson: Going forward, we will drive our libations toward low hanging fruit at the end of the day. Also its affordances. #lrnchat
9:49:01 pm LearningPutty: I agree with that!! RT @tmiket: @reward75 knowing the limits also helps you PUSH them further! 8-) #lrnchat
9:49:04 pm eduinnovation: Do you want to connect w/ pepl/customers +share ideas/comments or let them go elsewhere 2 talk about you behind your “virtual” back #lrnchat
9:49:07 pm chambo_online: RT @minutebio: RT @LearningPutty: BTW Can I just say that I am jealous of all those at #dl09?!?! —–>I’ll 4th that. #lrnchat
9:49:15 pm ValerieRoberts: RT @urbie: i used that technique to get my job at unlv-helped me “know” the faculty interview team before i met them. #lrnchat {great idea!}
9:49:24 pm ConnectIrmeli: “be the change or be changed” – the choice is yours! #lrnchat by @dwilkinsnh Q3
9:49:29 pm nancyrubin: Good definition of soc med – organized chaos – http://bit.ly/iVnb3 #lrnchat
9:49:34 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @dwilkinsnh: RT @LearningPutty: technology not new. Blogs, wikis, etc around but not used 4 lrng. Started w/ wiki ‘04 #lrnchat
9:49:42 pm jadekaz: Q3 WWTHPTMD? (what would the HPT model do?) #lrnchat
9:49:44 pm dwilkinsnh: Just to extend @LearningPutty, marcom is way, way ahead and has been using these technologies for years, nothing new here… #lrnchat
9:50:00 pm JaneBozarth: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Going forward, we’ll drive our libations toward low hanging fruit at the end of the day. Also its affordances. #lrnchat
9:50:05 pm urbie: another benefit of web 2.0 social media: you can’t contract H1N1 when you use it. #lrnchat/
9:50:09 pm da5idm: Social learning predates formal, & it will outlast it as well RT @LearningPutty: …this technology is not new. #lrnchat (via @dwilkinsnh)
9:50:10 pm Quinnovator: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Going forward, we will drive our libations toward low hanging fruit at the end of the day. Also its affordances. #lrnchat
9:50:11 pm tmiket: RT @ConnectIrmeli: “be the change or be changed” – the choice is yours! #lrnchat by @dwilkinsnh Q3
9:50:18 pm LearningPutty: Remind execs – Social Media is all about accessability and collaboration – nothing that would be “scary” if not for technology #lrnchat
9:50:22 pm TerrenceWing: Ask more questions than provide answers. Understand their challenges, problems, obstacles. U can’t sell until you understand #lrnchat
9:50:28 pm JaneBozarth: @Dave_Ferguson And I will explore the vicissitudes of the epistemologies and ontologies, along with taxonomies and ROI. #lrnchat
9:50:29 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links welcome. What can we help you with? #lrnchat
9:50:46 pm reward75: Here’s a good example of how less control is more, bit long but excellent – http://digs.by/lvt #lrnchat
9:50:54 pm gminks: I blogged about why you have to work with IT. To ward off zombies. http://bit.ly/niBZl #lrnchat
9:50:54 pm kelly_smith01: RT @ConnectIrmeli: “be the change or be changed” – the choice is yours! #lrnchat by @dwilkinsnh Q3 #lrnchat
9:51:13 pm JaneBozarth: My goodness look at the time ! How I love #lrnchat
9:51:14 pm gminks: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Going forward, we will drive our libations toward low hanging fruit at the end of the day. Also its affordances. #lrnchat
9:51:14 pm ajeanne: RT @JaneBozarth: … And I will explore the vicissitudes of the epistemologies and ontologies, along with taxonomies and ROI. #lrnchat
9:51:25 pm gminks: is that the #lrnchat manifesto? #lrnchat
9:51:26 pm LearningPutty: Great 2 hear! Share!!RT @dwilkinsnh: Just to extend @LearningPutty, marcom is way ahead & has been using these technologies 4 years #lrnchat
9:51:52 pm eduinnovation: The McFly Effect ” the Internet changed how orgs/biz work. Social media is changing the web. H McFly, this stuff is important” #lrnchat
9:51:56 pm tmiket: Mike Taylor, learning developer in Columbus, OH looking fwd to more tweets and recaps from #DL09 Keep ‘em coming and THANKS! #lrnchat
9:52:01 pm reward75: RT @gminks: I blogged about why you have to work with IT. To ward off zombies. http://bit.ly/niBZl< Awesome :) ) #lrnchat
9:52:01 pm Quinnovator: @jadekaz recent handbook basically ignored social media: http://bit.ly/2AtXoq #lrnchat
9:52:02 pm kellygarber: @urbie no H1N1 but the the virus you can catch could cripple a corp server… :) #lrnchat
9:52:03 pm chambo_online: @JaneBozarth @Dave_Ferguson @Quinnovator "hiccup" #lrnchat
9:52:06 pm urbie: urbie, migrant digital storyteller & instructional designer.. urbie.com #lrnchat
9:52:06 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @JaneBozarth: @Dave_Ferguson & will explore vicissitudes of epistemologies & ontologies, along / taxonomies & ROI. Drinks 4 me 2 #lrnchat
9:52:13 pm kasey428: Kay Wood, DC area, performance consultant to federal agencies & military, looking forward to reading #lrnchat transcript #lrnchat
9:52:23 pm JaneBozarth: Ruler of Planet Jane, RDU, Doctor of Learnin' Stuff. Naysayer and charlataon. Love trainin' learnin', #lrnchat.
9:52:32 pm usablelearning: It does fly by, doesn't it? RT @JaneBozarth My goodness look at the time ! How I love #lrnchat
9:52:37 pm ajeanne: :::Uploading a case of affordances for @Dave_Ferguson::: #lrnchat
9:52:46 pm gps03: Greg Sweet, Albany NY, CBRNE preparedness and response, synchronous learning, SoMe https://www.myciscocommunity.com/groups/sle #lrnchat
9:52:53 pm Quinnovator: Wow, that time already? Wow, goes by SO fast! So fun! #lrnchat
9:52:55 pm cammybean: I am ready to lie under a table after demofest is where I am. #lrnchat #dl09
9:52:55 pm chrisstjohn: Chris St.John (Pres Council of Inspectors General Training Inst) Standing up 3 new academies in FY10. #lrnchat
9:53:00 pm TerrenceWing: RT @TerrenceWing: Terrence Wing -Los Angeles via San Jose Devlearn – Leadership and Management Development – Lovin life #lrnchat
9:53:04 pm espnguyen: Steve Nguyen, from Mpls, Tech Lead and loving #dl09. Heading to Henry's Hi-Life tonight. #lrnchat
9:53:06 pm gwoodill: Gary Woodill, Brandon Hall Research, at home on a lake in Canada. #lrnchat
9:53:09 pm jadekaz: @Quinnovator That really surprises me. SoMe is the darling. #lrnchat
9:53:12 pm Dave_Ferguson: Org learning consultant, DC area; daveswhiteboard.com; like to collaborate; miss my dad (that's him in pic). #lrnchat
9:53:14 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith –wishing was at #dl09 but keeping up with the Tweets while in Texas #lrnchat
9:53:19 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman-Corporate e-Learning Guy. Once again, its been great and I look forward to next Thurs. And enjoy DevLearn #lrnchat
9:53:22 pm JaneBozarth: Next book: "Social Media in Training" with, like, real activities. Summer 2010. Let me know if you want to submit something. #lrnchat
9:53:31 pm SueSchnorr: RT @Quinnovator: @jadekaz recent handbook basically ignored social media: http://bit.ly/2AtXoq #lrnchat
9:53:40 pm chrisstjohn: Mark Oehlert, wherever you are. You and Alicia Sanchez did a 4.0 job at DL09!! #lrnchat
9:53:48 pm LearningPutty: Renee Robbins – Chicago, IL – www.learningputty.com (Great chatting with you all hope to see you next week!!) #lrnchat
9:53:50 pm dwilkinsnh: David Wilkins, lover or lrnchat, Executive Director of Product Marketing at Learn.com #lrnchat
9:53:50 pm chambo_online: Lisa Chamberlin – survivor of "The Atlantic Assault", "The November Nor'Easter", and "The Weather Channel Alliteration Team" #lrnchat
9:54:02 pm sahana2802: Sahana–trying to keep up with the tweets and the links and learn as much as I can. Love #lrnchat
9:54:09 pm reward75: Regina Ward, NYC, Jack of all and learning more :-) #lrnchat
9:54:19 pm LearningPutty: @JaneBozarth Details! I love this topic!! #lrnchat
9:54:21 pm ajeanne: Jeanne Farrington, J. Farrington Consulting in San Jose, CA, where the weather is still pretty warm & the leaves are changing. #lrnchat
9:54:21 pm jwillensky: @carmean Hey, had to show my respect for the men & women who make #lrnchat so formidable and enlightening.
9:54:23 pm JffZllr: Jeff Zoller , Learning Developer, Columbus OH. New to this and hanging on by the skin on my teeth! #lrnchat
9:54:31 pm insynctraining: We specialize in training synchronous trainers in delivering engaging, interactive sync. programs. Ask @gps03! #lrnchat
9:54:33 pm kasey428: I want to know the #dl09 attendees who are blogging on the sessions. I do read blogs. Dave's Whiteboard and others. #lrnchat
9:54:40 pm jadekaz: Wrap up: Jade Kazmierski, training developer, Milwaukee, Boise IPT student, all things nerdy #lrnchat
9:54:41 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat Kae from Colorado – learner engagement, immersive environments, virtual worlds, and serious games
9:54:42 pm alexismac: Alexis MacMillan, Edmonton, Alberta Canada – thinking about what project we should go after next to make the world a bit better. #lrnchat
9:54:50 pm JaneBozarth: @sahana2802 You're doing great! Where are you tonight? #lrnchat
9:55:00 pm marciamarcia: Ask more questions. Listen for challenges, problems, obstacles. Can't sell til you understand. RT @TerrenceWing #lrnchat
9:55:05 pm gminks: Gina, srsly behind in my homework, doing cool stuff at #EMC supporting our #Ionix products & community managing :) #lrnchat
9:55:07 pm Dave_Ferguson: Welcome to all #lrnchat first-timers. You're now journeypersons. C'mon back. #lrnchat
9:55:12 pm allisunelearns: G'nite all, Allisun in Arcata (moving to NYC in March!), Moodling my way through instructional design & everything eLearning luvva. #lrnchat
9:55:14 pm gps03: @JaneBozarth Depends on how much progress Google makes with wave before your deadline. #lrnchat
9:55:15 pm kasey428: @Dave_Ferguson Your Dad was a distinguished looking guy. #lrnchat
9:55:16 pm LearningPutty: @JffZllr It gets easier Jeff! Promise! #lrnchat
9:55:16 pm SueSchnorr: : freelance IDer, Amazingly participated in #lrnchat, finished video for sister's surprise party, while Chewing gum! #lrnchat
9:55:16 pm ValerieRoberts: Valerie, Sr Instructional Designer, Phoenix. Thx for all the great info! #lrnchat
9:55:19 pm JaneBozarth: @ajeanne Hey had fun with you tonight! #lrnchat
9:55:21 pm tmiket: @JffZllr Glad you could make it!!! #lrnchat
9:55:33 pm gminks: love you guys at #dl09 – please keep distracting us with your updates!! #lrnchat
9:55:36 pm SrtaOwens: Jessie Owens from WI – lstriving to be the teacher version of the real Jesse Owens #lrnchat
9:55:39 pm TerrenceWing: RT @chrisstjohn: Mark Oehlert, wherever you are. You and Alicia Sanchez did a 4.0 job at DL09!! #lrnchat
9:55:39 pm nancyrubin: I tweet, therefore I am… #lrnchat
9:55:40 pm kellygarber: Kelly, near your area, freelance instructional designer – thanks for the great tips tonight, I collected a bounty of websites! #lrnchat
9:55:42 pm da5idm: Amen ! Mark Oehlert, wherever you are. You and Alicia Sanchez did a 4.0 job at DL09!! #lrnchat (via @chrisstjohn)
9:55:43 pm carmean: colleen carmean. digital knowledge architect @ AZ state and res consultant for Sage Road Solutions. #lrnchat
9:55:46 pm JoanVinallCox: JVC learner by teaching & playing on web, web evangelist, lrnchat addict, wrote thesis about going from technophobe to technophile #lrnchat
9:56:02 pm usablelearning: Julie Dirksen / Minneapolis / ID Geek (currently collecting game ideas / stories here, if you'd like to add http://bit.ly/imgame) #lrnchat
9:56:03 pm Schnicker: Nicole Fougere, Auckland New Zealand, blogger at Litmos http://www.litmos.com – at devlearn09 #dl09 #lrnchat
9:56:04 pm ranig2u: Rani Gill, Palo Alto, trying to sell SoMe to former employer :) #lrnchat
9:56:09 pm JaneBozarth: @LearningPutty Details on what, Ms. Putty? #lrnchat
9:56:16 pm chrisstjohn: RT @nancyrubin: I tweet, therefore I am… #lrnchat
9:56:26 pm richchetwynd: Rich Chetwynd – Litmos. #dl09 sounds like blast! thanks for a crazy intro to #lrnchat Safe travels Devlearners
9:56:27 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @kasey428: @Dave_Ferguson Your Dad was a distinguished looking guy. #lrnchat
9:56:31 pm ajeanne: @JaneBozarth #lrnchat is fun & I have some great links. Thx to you & everyone for organizing and participating. #lrnchat
9:56:38 pm kelly_smith01: You can sell the #lrnchat transcript from a booth at #dl09 for big $$$$ #lrnchat
9:56:45 pm atsc: Andrew Chambers, Sydney, Educational Developer,a big university… #lrnchat
9:56:46 pm kasey428: RT @nancyrubin: I tweet, therefore I am… #lrnchat
9:56:52 pm JaneBozarth: @SueSchnorr See don't believe that lit saying multitasking can't be real. We know better. #lrnchat
9:56:53 pm chambo_online: RT @nancyrubin: I tweet, therefore I am… #lrnchat
9:56:56 pm LearningPutty: @JaneBozarth your new book in 2010!! #lrnchat
9:57:08 pm marciamarcia: Marcia Conner, Virginia. Avid learner, loyal friend, general goofball. Thrilled to be learning w/ so many 2nite on #lrnchat
9:57:32 pm LearningPutty: Don't sell – solve. RT @marciamarcia: Ask ?s. Listen for chlgs, problems, obstacles. Cant sell til you understand. RT @TerrenceWing #lrnchat
9:57:41 pm gminks: SOMEONE GET A PIC OF THIS!! RT @cammybean: I am ready to lie under a table after demofest is where I am. #lrnchat #dl09 #lrnchat
9:57:50 pm iJimCoyle: RT @eduinnovation: " the Internet changed how orgs/biz work. Social media is changing the web. H McFly, this stuff is important" #lrnchat
9:57:54 pm kelly_smith01: Sell the #lrnchat trascript from a booth at #dl09 for $$$$ #lrnchat
9:57:57 pm ranig2u: RT @chrisstjohn: RT @nancyrubin: I tweet, therefore I am… #lrnchat
9:58:00 pm spotlearning: Joe Fournier, learning geek; passionate about engaging learning, especially e-L…missing #dl09; looking for a new job opp. #lrnchat
9:58:04 pm carmean: rt @dave_ferguson Welcome to all #lrnchat first-timers. You're now journeypersons. C'mon back. #lrnchat
9:58:04 pm gwoodill: Thanks for the group shower. It was fun. #lrnchat
9:58:13 pm mpetersell: Mike from Connnecticut; http://mwtl.blogspot.com; help me create a virtual management development program #lrnchat
9:58:14 pm da5idm: David Mallon, Sr Analyst, Enterprise Learning, Bersin&Associates, first time @ #lrnchat, thanks for having me…
9:58:18 pm Dave_Ferguson: @kelly_smith01 I made $85,000 in one month selling #lrnchat transcripts…you can too! #lrnchat
9:58:35 pm dwilkinsnh: I think my IQ goes up every time I do this, not just from the awesome conversation, but from the effort of keeping up w/ the stream #lrnchat
9:58:37 pm ranig2u: RT @JaneBozarth: @SueSchnorr See dont believe that lit saying multitasking cant be real. We know better. – #lrnchat improves focus #lrnchat
9:58:45 pm gminks: RT @carmean: rt @dave_ferguson Welcome to all #lrnchat first-timers. Youre now journeypersons. Cmon back. #lrnchat
9:58:49 pm kasey428: For those who can make it, come to GMU's Innovations in Elearning, June 2010, in Fairfax VA. Close to DC. It is great! #lrnchat
9:58:49 pm elatedca: RT @bhc3: From archives: Why the 10/20/30 @guykawasaki rule of presentations fails in social media http://bit.ly/k3Hsn #lrnchat
9:59:03 pm SueSchnorr: @da5idm Welcome! Glad you joined us. #lrnchat
9:59:05 pm dwilkinsnh: @gwoodill "Mom, Gary just made me feel dirty…" #lrnchat
9:59:11 pm ConnectIrmeli: experienced the most active SoMe experience ever @ #lrnchat – a real energy boost!
9:59:13 pm kelly_smith01: Sorry for my self-RT system slow #lrnchat
9:59:15 pm lrnchat: Thank you for joining us on #lrnchat. Pls remember to submit Qs & theme ideas for upcoming chats at http://sn.im/lrnchat. See u next week!
9:59:26 pm jmarrapodi: Jean Marrapodi, Providence, RI. Learning architect happily working at the interesection of low literacy and high tech. #lrnchat
9:59:28 pm chambo_online: @Dave_Ferguson @kelly_smith01 Follow #lrnchat and increase your following tenfold. #lrnchat
9:59:28 pm eduinnovation: Great #lrnchat. Time for my mind to decompress
9:59:30 pm LearningPutty: @da5idm Wow… Bersin! You guys rock. :) #lrnchat
9:59:32 pm JaneBozarth: @Dave_Ferguson And I got whiter teeth! #lrnchat
9:59:41 pm marciamarcia: Welcome [& Thanks!} to all #lrnchat first-timers. You're now journeypersons. C'mon back. RT @Dave_Ferguson #lrnchat
10:00:07 pm Dave_Ferguson: Hey, Greater DC area #lrnchat folks — let’s get that meetup going. #lrnchat
10:00:08 pm JaneBozarth: @spotlearning Want to sell social learning tools door to door? #lrnchat
10:00:24 pm krishvenkatesh: RT @elatedca: RT @bhc3: From archives: Why 10/20/30 @guykawasaki rule of presentations fails in social media http://bit.ly/k3Hsn #lrnchat
10:00:27 pm lisagualtieri: Hi @marciamarcia, played Scrabble with @mgualtieri instead of joining #lrnchat; what were the highlights?
10:00:31 pm ajeanne: Goodnight all! #lrnchat
10:01:04 pm dwilkinsnh: @da5idm Thanks for joining David. It was good to have you here; hope you can join us on a weekly basis. #lrnchat
10:01:08 pm gminks: bye #lrnchat
10:01:12 pm SueSchnorr: @JaneBozarth … Next week, I’ll be getting a pedicure as well! ;) #lrnchat
10:01:13 pm ranig2u: goodnight #dl09 #lrnchat
10:01:27 pm kasey428: @marciamarcia Goodnight, Marcia, Goodnight, Dave. Goodnight, Clark.Goodnight, Jane. And Goodnight, John-Boy wherever you are. #lrnchat

Transcript 5 Nov 2009

November 6, 2009 by Quinnovate

5:30 pm lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been? Q0 warm up after the rules.
5:30 pm Quinnovator: for the next 90 mins, will be tweeting furiously in #lrnchat pardon or join!
5:31 pm jaycross: Life is grand. #lrnchat
5:31 pm lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1) Introduce yourself. (We do this again at the end). Location? Focus? Fave topics?
5:31 pm bschlenker: Dear Followers: Its #lrnchat time! Cue theme music…ready camera 1…prep for lots of tweets…3,2,…
5:32 pm dpeter: @lrnchat Been having fun exploring Google Wave #lrnchat
5:32 pm lrnchat: 2) [try to] stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 20 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
5:32 pm jaycross: Have we been whaled? #lrnchat
5:32 pm Quinnovator: welcome new and familiar to the happening place for cool chats #lrnchat
5:33 pm Dave_Ferguson: @laviniafrances Just don’t say “ADDIE” too often; you’ll be fine. Or, say it every tweet. #lrnchat
5:33 pm jkunrein: be prepared for learning-related tweets in the next 90 mins… it’s time for #lrnchat! #lrnchat
5:33 pm lrnchat: 3) When writing, complete thoughts help followers outside chat learn from you. 4) on #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm, welcome tho.
5:33 pm nancyrubin: @dpeter lots of good stuff posted this week – guides to using Google Wave, etc. #lrnchat
5:33 pm Mary_a_Myers: Mary Myers, learning strategist, ID, focus is on prepping for DevLearn, fave topics this week: zombies, mobile, leadership & trust. #lrnchat
5:34 pm ThomasStone: @jaycross Hey, great 2004 photo Jay! #lrnchat
5:34 pm oxala75: craig wiggins, elearning jockey for the fed’rul gubmint. Outside Washington DC. #lrnchat
5:34 pm lrnchat: 5) Periodically RT questions so others outside #lrnchat know what you?re talking about so they can chime in.
5:34 pm dpeter: @nancyrubin Found some good Wave info on the Educator’s PLN on Google Wave #lrnchat
5:35 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @ThomasStone: @jaycross Hey, great 2004 photo Jay! ( i like it too!) #lrnchat
5:35 pm richardsheehy: Join us in the #lrnchat conversation for the next 90 minutes, why don cha?
5:35 pm reward75: Regina Ward, NYC, current focus=KM #lrnchat
5:35 pm lrnchat: 6) Remember to include the #lrnchat in all posts. http://tweetchat.com, http://tweetgrid.com & http://twubs.com/lrnchat work well.
5:35 pm nancyrubin: eLearning guru and general know-it-all…just ask me I will tell you… #lrnchat
5:35:38 pm tmiket: Mike Taylor Learning developer in Columbus Ohio #lrnchat
5:35:47 pm shantarohse: @Mary_a_Myers zombies? what zombies? #lrnchat
5:35:54 pm Dave_Ferguson: Dave Ferguson, learning consultant, genial technoskeptic, the still-silent daveswhiteboard.com, still telling tales. Wash DC area #lrnchat
5:35:54 pm chrisstjohn: lrnchat rah! lrnchat rah! #lrnchat
5:36:05 pm allisunelearns: Allisun O’Connell, redwoods of N. Cali, Moodler, ID, and into everything eLearning…gotta find that focus #lrnchat
5:36:16 pm richardsheehy: #lrnchat Richard Sheehy bringing some southern hospitality to elearning
5:36:18 pm jaycross: RT @Mary_a_Myers: RT @ThomasStone: @jaycross Hey, great 2004 photo Jay! ( i like it too!) Thanks, everyone. It’s actually 1974. #lrnchat
5:36:18 pm lrnchat: 7) 10 min before end, tell us if you need anything from the other #lrnchat participants. Time to reintroduce yourself, too. Links welcome.
5:36:18 pm JaneBozarth: New blog post “What I learn from #lrnchat” at http://bozarthzone.blogspot.com
5:36:19 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, Walnut Creek CA, learning design troublemaker, player with all things geeky, available to make learning better #lrnchat
5:36:26 pm jkunrein: Judy Unrein, instructional designer, forever student #lrnchat
5:36:35 pm Quinnovator: and forgetter of hastags #lrnchat
5:36:38 pm everyselearning: Myra Rhodes Everyone’s E-Learning Inc. www.everyones.com Dreamweaver CS4 Web Design online training #lrnchat
5:36:41 pm Dave_Ferguson: Oh, currently focused on focusing my focus. That and ephemera. And mocking tireless self-retweeters. #lrnchat
5:36:46 pm jilliant: Jillian in Vermont – eLearning, content dev and learning strategist – checking in for #lrnchat
5:36:51 pm jadekaz: Howdy from Milwaukee. elearning dev and ID in corp environment. IPT student at BSU. #lrnchat
5:36:59 pm TerrenceWing: Terrence Wing (Consultant) – Los Angeles – Focus on Leadership and Learning #lrnchat
5:37:02 pm JaneBozarth: I dealt with some policy-sucking zombies just yesterday #lrnchat
5:37:18 pm tferraro: @lrnchat twubs has added a lot of things tht will enhance speed & the ability 2 tweet wn twttr is down. snd me an email tferraro@360hubs.com
5:37:20 pm tonya_simmons: Tonya Goth Simmons, elearning production, Phasient Learning Technologies, Ames, IA #lrnchat
5:37:22 pm jaycross: Jay Cross, polymath for the day #lrnchat
5:37:23 pm Mary_a_Myers: @Quinnovator every week i read walnut grove instead of walnut creek. little house runs deep. #lrnchat
5:37:24 pm Dave_Ferguson: @jaycross 1974, pfft. My photo’s 1934. Of course, it’s not me… #lrnchat
5:37:28 pm Quinnovator: a reminder: this isn’t fun, this is serious! http://lrnchatdrinkinggame.wikispaces.com/ #lrnchat
5:37:30 pm lrnchat: 8) Please RT important points & vital questions asked for clarification, so we don’t miss them amid the lively fast-paced #lrnchat
5:37:31 pm ajeanne: Jeanne Farrington, San Jose, CA, performance improvement…. training, management consulting #lrnchat
5:37:37 pm sahana2802: Sahana, ID from India, currently in CT. Love #lrnchat
5:37:46 pm Erick1970: Erick from Arkansas, focus on org. effectiveness, favorite topics are alignment & talent. #lrnchat
5:37:54 pm chrisstjohn: Chris St.John, Exec Dir of Council of IGs Training Academies (Wash DC) +lrnchat
5:37:59 pm shantarohse: Shanta Rohse, learning designer, been away from lrnchat too long. #lrnchat
5:38:01 pm jkunrein: will your tweet get blogged tonight? http://bit.ly/1NUXsz #lrnchat
5:38:03 pm ajeanne: @Dave_Ferguson Loving that focus, Dave! #lrnchat
5:38:03 pm dpeter: David Peter, Director of Center for Teaching and Learning at Vincennes University #lrnchat
5:38:06 pm jaycross: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Oh, currently focused on focusing my focus. That and ephemera. And mocking tireless self-retweeters. #lrnchat
5:38:17 pm lrnchat: Q0 (our weekly #lrnchat welcome, also check out @lrn2day) What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
5:38:21 pm SueSchnorr: arriving late, Sue Schnorr, NY, instructional designer, #lrnchat
5:38:28 pm Mary_a_Myers: @Dave_Ferguson but of course it’s not you. i love mounties. #lrnchat
5:38:45 pm Quinnovator: @Mary_a_Myers we don’t have groves, but the creek’s decent. Bit of marketing hype, really #lrnchat
5:39:03 pm MarkMorganMA: #lrnchat – I relearned today that going to the doctors office is better for getting the flu than getting the flu cured
5:39:10 pm chrisstjohn: Chris St.John, Exec Dir of Council of IGs Training Academies (Wash DC) #lrnchat
5:39:15 pm lisagualtieri: I teach in a classroom http://twitpic.com/h00m5 but H1N1 fears leads to contingency planning for online, others seeing same? #lrnchat
5:39:18 pm jaycross: Q0 Wave takes a while to figure out. #lrnchat
5:39:21 pm ichrisbarnes: Chris Barnes, design strategist/founder of Emphatic Communications, specialize in bringing clarity to healthcare ed, info, & mktg #lrnchat
5:39:27 pm RobRobertson: Rob from Dallas focused on introducing Social Media to the corporate L&D folks #lrnchat
5:39:32 pm dpeter: Q0 – Google Wave is different. Still trying to see how it could be used #lrnchat
5:39:45 pm ajeanne: Q0 I learned that expert instructional designers can totally & reasonably agree about stuff that looks basic on the surface #lrnchat
5:39:46 pm roninchef: Mason Masteka, Elearning Curriculum Developer, Portland ME. Digging Ubuntu 9.10, Open Source learning and picture in picture tricks #lrnchat
5:39:48 pm JaneBozarth: 2day learned to check assumptions. Found out friends didn’t have Facebook profile pics b/c they didn’t know how, not antisocial #lrnchat
5:39:56 pm JaneBozarth: PS learned AGAIN #lrnchat
5:40:02 pm TerrenceWing: learned a little bit of SL architecture. But quickly forget. I guess I didn’t learn than #lrnchat
5:40:05 pm Quinnovator: @lrn2day that fooling with images for presentation decks takes longer than you think, even when you take that into account #lrnchat
5:40:10 pm ThomasStone: Thomas Stone, from Element K, in Rochester, NY, where the snow has not yet started to fall… but no doubt soon will. #lrnchat
5:40:11 pm kristineshaheen: Christine Shaheen, first time on #lrnchat, just getting into T&D officially after doing it organically. Looking to learn, as always!
5:40:15 pm reward75: Q0) I learned that I am way too involved with Google #lrnchat
5:40:16 pm Erick1970: RT @lrnchat: Q0 What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week? #lrnchat
5:40:31 pm Abhinava: Abhinava, Problem Solver, ID from India, Currently still sleepy #lrnchat
5:40:42 pm shannypez: oops forgot the tag. Let me try that again. Shannon in Phoenix Corp ID and Master student at ASU edtech program #lrnchat
5:40:46 pm nancyrubin: RT @dpeter: Q0 – Could probably be used for something like what we are doing on Twitter #lrnchat
5:40:52 pm ajeanne: @dpeter I’d like to play more with Google Wave… but have to find peeps, it seems. #lrnchat
5:40:58 pm Mary_a_Myers: i learned that how to play zombie apocalypse #lrnchat
5:41:00 pm jaycross: RT @dpeter: Q0 – Google Wave is different. Still trying to see how it could be used | I think plug-ins will make it worthwhile. #lrnchat
5:41:00 pm Dave_Ferguson: @TerrenceWing You learned that there’s more to learn. #lrnchat
5:41:02 pm JaneBozarth: Also learned from @davecormier about “building slides” #lrnchat
5:41:10 pm jkunrein: q0) today re-learned that people don’t read words on the screen. they don’t. #lrnchat
5:41:14 pm JaneBozarth: I’m getting real-time search results at TweetGrid http://tweetgrid.com/ #lrnchat
5:41:24 pm hjarche: I learned 2 weeks ago that both @JaneBozarth and I talk very fast ;-) #lrnchat
5:41:32 pm lisagualtieri: Lots of @eLearnMag authors on #lrnchat – @Quinnovator, @jaycross, @jkunrein, @Dave_Ferguson – others too if only I could read fast enough
5:41:37 pm Erick1970: Learned that if you help people dip their toes in the water (SoMe) they will come back for more. #lrnchat
5:41:39 pm minutebio: I learned I am way too accommodating to SMEs #lrnchat
5:41:40 pm jilliant: Q0 I learned that I am the only one on #lrnchat without a Wave invite. #lrnchat
5:41:51 pm richardsheehy: #lrnchat Q0: unwinding previous procedures and processes to find out what is “really” going on takes time & concentration
5:41:57 pm TerrenceWing: Pretty much RT @Dave_Ferguson: @TerrenceWing You learned that theres more to learn. #lrnchat
5:41:58 pm roninchef: @reward75 So you checked your Dashboard? Me too and I have 10 apps pending for Dashboard display. #lrnchat
5:42:08 pm JaneBozarth: @hjarche Speed of Jane #lrnchat
5:42:09 pm chrisstjohn: I learned that the new Google Dashboard has WAY TOO MUCH information on what I do on the keyboard. #lrnchat
5:42:10 pm oxala75: Q0) i learned that they actually make cardboard cutouts of coyotes to keep Canadian geese away. Scare the daylights outta me. #lrnchat
5:42:11 pm jaycross: RT @jkunrein: q0) today re-learned that people dont read words on the screen. they dont. | What did you just say?? #lrnchat
5:42:18 pm SueSchnorr: learned that I’m a bit over my head with my new THESIS wordpress template, but AM NOT giving up #lrnchat
5:42:18 pm jkunrein: hiya @lisagualtieri! #lrnchat
5:42:22 pm tonya_simmons: Q0 – I learned about the purpose of chromium in the human diet while working on a course #lrnchat
5:42:25 pm ThomasStone: Q0: Learned, or re-learned, today that “Echoes” by Pink Floyd was always unique, in each live perf. & it makes for good #lrnchat background
5:42:26 pm JaneBozarth: RT @jkunrein: q0) today re-learned that people don’t read words on the screen. they don’t. #lrnchat
5:42:30 pm TerrenceWing: Me too. RT @jilliant: Q0 I learned that I am the only one on #lrnchat without a Wave invite. #lrnchat
5:42:33 pm nancyrubin: Learned I have even less patience than I thought I did… #lrnchat
5:42:35 pm kristineshaheen: I learned to check the obvious places multiple times, and then do it again. #lrnchat
5:42:39 pm bschlenker: Q0)I learned about keynotetweet – automatically sends text to twitter while presenting – So fun! #lrnchat
5:42:53 pm hjarche: @jilliant wait for Google Wave, it’s in pre-Alpha, IMO #lrnchat
5:43:01 pm ichrisbarnes: Q0 Today, I (re)learned that I like helping elementary kids understand math. #lrnchat
5:43:05 pm reward75: @jilliant no you’re not :-( #lrnchat
5:43:08 pm jadekaz: Q0 LinkedIn doesn’t stay up to date unless you update it. #lrnchat
5:43:11 pm jaycross: RT @jilliant: Q0 I learned that I am the only one on #lrnchat without a Wave invite. | D me; I can fix that. #lrnchat
5:43:12 pm tmiket: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @jkunrein: q0) today re-learned that people don’t read words on the screen. they don’t. #lrnchat
5:43:26 pm Erick1970: Me three. RT @TerrenceWing: Me too. RT @jilliant: Q0 I learned that I am the only one on #lrnchat without a Wave invite. #lrnchat
5:43:26 pm RobRobertson: Q0 learned that google wave will be doing an app store…find the thought of lots of developers intriguing #lrnchat
5:43:31 pm tmiket: @JaneBozarth Good reason not to put words on the screen in the 1st place #lrnchat
5:43:39 pm JaneBozarth: COOL RT @bschlenker: Q0)I learned about keynotetweet – automatically sends text to twitter while presenting – So fun! #lrnchat
5:43:45 pm ajeanne: RT @bschlenker: Q0)I learned about keynotetweet – automatically sends text to twitter while presenting – So fun! #lrnchat
5:43:47 pm Dave_Ferguson: I solved longstanding glitch at cousinagamfhein.net (non-work, share family story website). God bless WordPress. #lrnchat
5:43:50 pm Quinnovator: learned that the Google invite fairy has a twisted sense of humor #lrnchat
5:43:52 pm RobRobertson: @oxala75 that literally made me lol #lrnchat
5:43:59 pm ichrisbarnes: @TerrenceWing @jilliant I don’t have a Wave invite either (and boy am I jealous) ;) #lrnchat
5:44:18 pm TerrenceWing: @bschlenker so does socialOomph.com : Auto tweet replies and timed too #lrnchat
5:44:22 pm jkunrein: @jaycross i know, right? #lrnchat is screwed :) #lrnchat
5:44:36 pm shannypez: I’m searching for #lrnchat live on TweetGrid Search – http://tweetgrid.com/search?q=%23lrnchat
5:44:38 pm kristineshaheen: Also learned that Steve Jobs should be my business idol. Should have been obvious, but confirmed. #lrnchat
5:44:48 pm RandySmithCan: Randy Smith – developing a personal learning environment to facilitate problem solving and improved decision-making #lrnchat #lrnchat
5:44:55 pm tonya_simmons: me four & not sure what the big deal is – Google Wave #lrnchat
5:45:11 pm chrisstjohn: I learned that the new Business Card Reader for the iPhone is only a 7 +lrnchat
5:45:17 pm SueSchnorr: You all are note alone! Me neither. Erick1970: RT @TerrenceWing: RT @jilliant: Q0 the only one on #lrnchat without a Wave invite. #lrnchat
5:45:19 pm lrnchat: Q1) ePortfolios have traction in the academic world. Is there an equivalent in corpEd to demonstrate competencies? Should there be? #lrnchat
5:45:25 pm nancyrubin: Will follow up twith some of you to connect for a wave #lrnchat
5:45:29 pm chrisstjohn: I learned that the new Business Card Reader for the iPhone is only a 7 #lrnchat
5:45:30 pm ajeanne: I learned that Dave Ferguson loves WordPress. :) )) #lrnchat
5:45:37 pm Mary_a_Myers: @kristineshaheen is it too late? can he still be your business idol? #lrnchat
5:45:47 pm littleasklab: leslie lannan, tardy, learning strategist from dark ‘n dank Seattle who learned too much today to itemize. #lrnchat
5:45:50 pm oxala75: @RobRobertson true story :) what’s worse, they keep moving them #lrnchat
5:45:55 pm nancyrubin: ePortfolios – can serve multiple purposes– assessment of work and presentation of work. #lrnchat
5:46:06 pm Dave_Ferguson: I’m sure Google Wave will outdo sliced bread; I’m also sure it’s using Beanie Baby marketing strategy: fake access limit. #lrnchat
5:46:08 pm sahana2802: RT @lrnchat Q1) ePortfolios have traction in the academic world. Is there an equivalent in corpEd to demonstrate competencies? #lrnchat
5:46:10 pm ajeanne: Q0 Relearned how amazing TweetDeck is for following breaking news. #lrnchat
5:46:16 pm RandySmithCan: Learned that @hjarche knows how to cut through the hype surrounding social learning. #lrnchat
5:46:23 pm roninchef: Q0 I learned about re-skinning a wiki for a better looking collaboration web site. #lrnchat
5:46:24 pm jkunrein: RT @lrnchat: Q1) ePortfolios have traction in the academic world. Is there an equivalent in corpEd? Should there be? #lrnchat
5:46:26 pm Erick1970: RT @lrnchat: Q1) ePortfolios have traction in the academic world. Is there an equivalent in corpEd to demonstrate competencies? #lrnchat
5:46:34 pm nancyrubin: Reference – Great resource that discusses evolution of ePortfolios and Web 2.0 technologies #lrnchat
5:46:43 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q1) ePortfolios have traction in the academy. Is equivalent in corpEd to demonstrate competencies? Should there be? #lrnchat
5:46:45 pm jadekaz: RT @lrnchat: Q1) ePortfolios have traction in the academic world. Is there an equivalent in corp 4 competencies? Should there b? #lrnchat
5:46:54 pm chrisstjohn: ePortfolios have a niche following here but only if it can link to the LMS #lrnchat
5:46:55 pm jaycross: Q2 Should be some form of portfolio for business world. There is none that I know of. #lrnchat
5:46:57 pm allisunelearns: Q0. Learned that if you’re going 2 teach about non-text content dev’l methods, you better model them too for stdnts #gradschoolfail #lrnchat
5:46:58 pm nancyrubin: Collection of evidence that shows your learning journey over time. Can relate to specific academic fields or lifelong learning. #lrnchat
5:47:04 pm JaneBozarth: RT Q1) ePortfolios have traction in the acad world. Is there equiv. in corpEd to demonstrate competencies? Should there be? #lrnchat
5:47:44 pm nancyrubin: RT @jaycross: Should be transportable from school to work #lrnchat
5:47:55 pm nancyrubin: http://www.educause.edu/Resources/Browse/eportfolios/17180 #lrnchat
5:47:57 pm jkunrein: q1) personally, i know of nothing within any company i’ve worked for that’s similar in purpose to an e-portfolio. #lrnchat
5:48:02 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) YES! Portfolios should be part of performance management and documentation of performance improvement and competency. #lrnchat
5:48:08 pm Quinnovator: q1) definitely should be eportfolio equivalent: triangulating on competency more valuable than just one-dimensional eval #lrnchat
5:48:13 pm jaycross: Q1 An effective ePortfolio combines functions of (1) resume, (2) transcript, (3) recommendations, (4) accomplishments, etc. #lrnchat
5:48:14 pm ajeanne: Q1 Why not? Folks look for blogs now… could include work samples, wiki entries, etc. #lrnchat
5:48:15 pm reward75: Q1) I would really like to know of some. Sounds like an area LMSs should look into. #lrnchat
5:48:23 pm nancyrubin: education passport – way for students and professionals to represent their learning and carry it with them from setting to setting #lrnchat
5:48:31 pm kelly_smith01: Sorry Im late. Working on Venn Diagram of Windows Vista/Hell #lrnchat
5:48:42 pm richardsheehy: RT @jaycross: Q2 Should be some form of portfolio for business world. There is none that I know of. #lrnchat (I don’t know of any either)
5:48:47 pm oxala75: Q1) i’m interested in answers to this question #lrnchat
5:48:49 pm JaneBozarth: Q1 MUCH needed, but I haven’t seen it #lrnchat
5:48:54 pm jaycross: Q1 Fully agree that should be transportable from school — or other experiences. The Europeans are way ahead of us on this. #lrnchat
5:48:55 pm Quinnovator: Q2learning has system that lets you build eval across approaches: test, mentor, 360, etc. Not a bad model. #lrnchat
5:48:56 pm Dave_Ferguson: Q1: I think smart or crafty workers have always had portfolios (documentation of results actual or claimed). #lrnchat
5:48:59 pm kellygarber: Q1 – could end up representing corp initiatives/projects more than individual skills #lrnchat
5:49:03 pm ajeanne: Q1 Also, people sometimes submit resumes as websites; can include samples. #lrnchat
5:49:05 pm JoanVinallCox: Joining lrnchat & will be producing many tweets per minute over the next while. Learned again that wifi guarantees don’t work. #lrnchat
5:49:06 pm Mary_a_Myers: q1) i find them present in diff formats; related to individual employees; profiles for each employee to complete; for internal use. #lrnchat
5:49:09 pm nancyrubin: RT @reward75: http://www.educause.edu/Resources/Browse/eportfolios/17180 #lrnchat
5:49:17 pm jaycross: RT @nancyrubin: education passport – way for students and professionals to represent their learning and carry it with them YES! #lrnchat
5:49:19 pm chrisstjohn: ePortfolios shud represent your academic, publishing and career achievements in toto. For that reason there will be great pushback #lrnchat
5:49:23 pm Quinnovator: probably greater need for portfolio as you move along continuum from training to ‘education’ #lrnchat
5:49:33 pm jkunrein: @kelly_smith01 PLEASE SEND WHEN DONE #lrnchat
5:49:34 pm nancyrubin: RT @JaneBozarth: https://www.optimalresume.com/optimalefolio.html #lrnchat
5:49:43 pm kristineshaheen: @jaycross, @nancyrubin This is just sounding like LinkedIn to me. #lrnchat
5:49:58 pm Dave_Ferguson: And please, please can we drop the silly e from portfolio? Or will we write with epens on epaper for efiling in efolders? #lrnchat
5:49:58 pm hjarche: ePortfolios should stay outside the corporate walls; create your own, connect parts to your current job, but own your own $%#@ data #lrnchat
5:50:01 pm Quinnovator: RT @jsuzcampos: Q1) YES! Portfolio should be part of performance mgmt and documentation of performance improvement and competency. #lrnchat
5:50:08 pm TerrenceWing: RT @kelly_smith01: Speaking of ePortfolios –> http://bit.ly/19oPLl Article #lrnchat
5:50:13 pm nancyrubin: Could be considered an important part of PLE – lifelong learning #lrnchat
5:50:18 pm JaneBozarth: Don’t see why wouldn’t work on wiki/blog. Projects/plans there, teachbacks via video, etc? #lrnchat
5:50:20 pm Mary_a_Myers: q1) although i find them present, i also find them incomplete. no motivation to complete really. #lrnchat
5:50:21 pm Callooh: Problem in corporate settings may be confidentiality issues. #lrnchat
5:50:28 pm RobRobertson: Q1 I like the thought of an eport. I would like to find one for personal use that I could point both corp and acad entities toward #lrnchat
5:50:31 pm richardsheehy: RT @Quinnovator: probably greater need for portfolio as you move along continuum from training to ‘education’ #lrnchat
5:50:34 pm jadekaz: Q1 Privacy of corp’s sensitive info could be problem with transferability #lrnchat
5:50:44 pm JoanVinallCox: I see LinkedIn and a page with links to your projects on your website as your eportfolio #lrnchat
5:50:52 pm ThomasStone: I’d say that the open parts of corp. e-Portfolio should be part of/linked to your internal corp. social networking profile #lrnchat
5:51:01 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @nancyrubin: Could be considered an important part of PLE – lifelong learning #lrnchat
5:51:05 pm kristineshaheen: @RandySmithCan While simultaneously reinforcing it. Right, @hjarche? ;) #lrnchat
5:51:05 pm SueSchnorr: LinkedIn is close; not transcript RT@ jaycross: Q1 effective ePortfolio = resume, transcript, recommendations, accomplishments, . #lrnchat
5:51:09 pm allisunelearns: I have several good eportfolio links here: http://delicious.com/allisun/eportfolios #lrnchat
5:51:16 pm ichrisbarnes: Q1 Of course. It’s always good idea to be able to succintly, visually, and electronically tell your story. #lrnchat
5:51:18 pm jaycross: @kristineshaheen LinkedIn is not validated anywhere. An ePortfolio could contain a vetted transcript if you wished. #lrnchat
5:51:26 pm JaneBozarth: Agree with @dave_ferguson about dropping the silly e #lrnchat
5:51:26 pm TerrenceWing: Would the size of the organization matter? #lrnchat
5:51:27 pm spotlearning: Late for #lrnchat…but diving in. Nice picture @jaycross ;-)
5:51:28 pm kelly_smith01: Sometime there may be a proptetary issue for product I work on as a consultant for an ePortfolio #lrnchat
5:51:28 pm Mary_a_Myers: agree with @hjarche own your own data! personally i like to maintain some kind of boundaries between me and my place of employment. #lrnchat
5:51:30 pm hjarche: @kristineshaheen Linkedin is a variant of a personal portfolio, but lacks functionality and you don’t own the data #lrnchat
5:51:37 pm Erick1970: Your ePortfolio should showcase your talents in a dynamic way – it’s your career story. #lrnchat
5:51:49 pm kristineshaheen: @JoanVinallCox I agree. Or an embedded widget on LinkedIn with samples of your work. #lrnchat
5:51:50 pm minutebio: RT @Callooh: Problem in corp settings may be confidentiality issues. Many materials are proprietary, but good for internal rvw #lrnchat
5:51:54 pm JaneBozarth: I get resume, etc. What about demonstrating competencies post-training/learning effort? #lrnchat
5:51:54 pm kprentiss: RT @hjarche: ePortfolios should stay outside the corp walls; create your own, connect parts to your job, but own your own $%#@ data #lrnchat
5:51:55 pm ajeanne: RT @ichrisbarnes: Q1 Of course. Its always good idea to be able to succintly, visually, and electronically tell your story. #lrnchat
5:52:05 pm jaycross: Q1 Your ePortfolio won’t be a one-size-fits-all affair. You decide what pieces to expose to whom. #lrnchat
5:52:08 pm Dave_Ferguson: @jadekaz Yes; presumption for org folks is that what they produce is ‘work made for hire’ & belongs to org. #lrnchat
5:52:09 pm JaneBozarth: Or am I getting ahead of planned discussion? #lrnchat
5:52:20 pm Erick1970: Q1 I wonder how many active & passive job seekers have portfolios – e or not. #lrnchat
5:52:27 pm littleasklab: RT @hjarche: @kristineshaheen Linkedin is a variant of a personal portfolio, but lacks functionality and you don’t own the data #lrnchat
5:52:42 pm shannypez: Is an e-portfolio an amped up resume? #lrnchat
5:52:42 pm kristineshaheen: @JaneBozarth Starting to agree with @hjarche that everyone should have a blog. But where does one find that time? #lrnchat
5:52:46 pm JaneBozarth: I don’t get LinkedIn the way other people say they don’t get Twitter, anyway #lrnchat
5:52:47 pm nancyrubin: Blogs can be used as a form of an ePortfolio focusing on reflection and inquiry #lrnchat
5:52:48 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @jaycross: Q1 Your ePortfolio wont be a one-size-fits-all affair. You decide what pieces to expose to whom. #lrnchat
5:52:48 pm chrisstjohn: But your achieving competencies at any level shud b recorded despite corp, acad, or others. Much like a transcript for your life #lrnchat
5:52:54 pm jaycross: Q1. My e-elevator pitch. A small fraction of my ePortfolio. #lrnchat
5:52:55 pm Erick1970: RT @jaycross: Q1 Your ePortfolio wont be a one-size-fits-all affair. You decide what pieces to expose to whom. #lrnchat
5:53:07 pm richardsheehy: @Quinnovator @jsuzcampos #lrnchat More & more workers, corporate or not, seem to be realizing that every job is “temporary”
5:53:10 pm bacigalupe: RT @Dave_Ferguson Please, can we drop the silly e from portfolio? Or will we write with epens on epaper, efolders for…? #lrnchat OK edave
5:53:17 pm oxala75: @hjarche totally agree. haven’t done it yet, but looking forward to an ePortfolio as a very personalized, stylized thing. #lrnchat
5:53:20 pm hjarche: my blog (with my domain) is my permanent presence on the Web. All other services du jour (LinkedIn, Twitter, FB) point to it #lrnchat
5:53:28 pm nancyrubin: Lots of design jobs require examples – what better way to organize than ePortfolio #lrnchat
5:53:31 pm SueSchnorr: or an embedded widget on your blog? Q1 #lrnchat
5:53:41 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @jaycross: Q1. My e-elevator pitch. A small fraction of my ePortfolio. #lrnchat
5:53:41 pm ichrisbarnes: @Erick1970 Q1 And I wonder about the quality of said portfolios (both of content and presentation) #lrnchat
5:53:45 pm jadekaz: @Dave_Ferguson Bingo. I can’t share any of my work because my corp owns it. Plus there’s sensitive info in it. #lrnchat
5:53:46 pm jaycross: Q1 @Erick1970 Almost all job seekers have ePortfolios. Most are awful at representing their owners. #lrnchat
5:53:48 pm kelly_smith01: RT @minutebio: RT @Callooh: Problem in corp maybe confidentiality issues. Many materials r proprietary, but good for internal rvw #lrnchat
5:53:49 pm Dave_Ferguson: @JaneBozarth I’ll send you all the LinkedIn crapmail I get for seminars to transform your life. #lrnchat
5:53:49 pm kellygarber: @JaneBozarth yea, like how do you know just b/c someone has it in their portfolio that it was created by them? #lrnchat
5:53:54 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) My grad students develop portfolios as a way to demonstrate their skill (newly acquired or maturing). Valuable as job seekers. #lrnchat
5:53:56 pm Quinnovator: consider multiple forms of eval of your skill like multiple forms of validation that training works (e.g. kirkpatrick, *drink*) #lrnchat
5:53:57 pm tonya_simmons: @Erick1970 usually only had a portfolio when I was ACTIVELY looking for new job – story clips/design pieces etc. #lrnchat
5:54:15 pm TerrenceWing: Isn’t the Performance Appraisal and eport if done appropriately? #lrnchat
5:54:15 pm chrisstjohn: or a portfolio of your publications #lrnchat
5:54:20 pm hjarche: @kristineshaheen you can blog once a month and it’s still a blog #lrnchat
5:54:33 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @hjarche: my blog (my domain)- my permanent presence on the Web. All other services du jour (LinkedIn, Twitter, FB) point to it #lrnchat
5:54:34 pm ajeanne: Q1 New clients who don’t know me sometimes ask for work samples. Usually, they don’t all want the same thing. Have to make choices. #lrnchat
5:54:37 pm Dave_Ferguson: RT @hjarche: my blog w/ domain= my permanent presence on Web. All other svcs du jour (LinkedIn, Twitter, FB) point to it #lrnchat
5:54:39 pm everyselearning: RT @Dave_Ferguson Please, can we drop the silly e from portfolio? Or will we write with epens on epaper, efolders for…? #lrnchat
5:54:52 pm JaneBozarth: @kristineshaheen Find I’m blogging less and less since Twitter. Also, people respond/comment to me on Twitter rather than on blog! #lrnchat
5:54:57 pm Quinnovator: triangulation: your skill test, your workplace eval, your projects/products, your contributions in print/speaking on a topic #lrnchat
5:54:58 pm jaycross: Q1 I just got an assignment from a fellow who only read my Flickrstream and jaycross.ponderous.com Secondary sources IMHO #lrnchat
5:55:04 pm Erick1970: @jaycross If you mean a resume then I agree with you that they have an ePortfolio that is an awful representation. #lrnchat
5:55:17 pm Callooh: Could also be a platform for volunteerism. Creating public projects for non-profits. #lrnchat.
5:55:22 pm JaneBozarth: @kristineshaheen But finding time less hard than finding topics. Most I can just tweet. Also can do ahead/schedule to post #lrnchat
5:55:25 pm Dave_Ferguson: I think finding time to blog, in part, means choosing a frequency that works for you. Regular > sporadic, all considered. #lrnchat
5:55:25 pm ajeanne: Q1 Can sometimes sanitize experts from proprietary stuff…. Removing all the juicy parts. #lrnchat
5:55:28 pm sahana2802: RT @nancyrubin Blogs can be used as a form of an ePortfolio focusing on reflection and inquiry #lrnchat
5:55:35 pm spotlearning: an e-portfolio could be a useful device, especially w/a peer rating system…vote up competency validation #lrnchat
5:55:40 pm Erick1970: @tonya_simmons Why wouldn’t you be putting one together when not looking for a job? #lrnchat
5:55:51 pm jaycross: RT @JaneBozarth: @kristineshaheen Find Im blogging less and less since Twitter. ME TOO, Jane. #lrnchat
5:55:51 pm TerrenceWing: @everyselearning has an e-headache with e words lol #lrnchat
5:55:53 pm jadekaz: To tie this with edu- schools should teach students how to create professional portfolios. I had to and it was very beneficial. #lrnchat
5:55:56 pm Quinnovator: think we’re talking 2 types: 1 is our overall portfolio, but also consider separate portfolios for different competencies #lrnchat
5:56:02 pm kelly_smith01: lrnchat is a group blog with tags or is it a portfolio #lrnchat
5:56:05 pm kristineshaheen: @JaneBozarth Hence calling it “microblogging”, I suppose. Currently I’m reading a “twovel”. lol #lrnchat
5:56:10 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @JaneBozarth: @kristineshaheen blogging less & less since Twitter. Also, people respond to me on Twitter rather than on blog! #lrnchat
5:56:12 pm ichrisbarnes: Q1. I’d say the best portfolio is public thinking, meaningful engagement in professional community. Blogs everyone? #lrnchat
5:56:14 pm minutebio: 3rd that RT @JaneBozarth: @kristineshaheen Find I blog less since Twitter. people respond/comment on Twitter rather than on blg #lrnchat
5:56:22 pm oxala75: re: eportfolios RT @kellygarber how do you know just b/c someone has it in their portfolio that it was created by them? #lrnchat
5:56:28 pm roninchef: Q1 I try to gather the ideas and techniques I learn along the way in non-branded projects. Not only are they examples but templates #lrnchat
5:56:31 pm Dave_Ferguson: @jadekaz Yes, exactly. I worked for a small outfit called GE. Majority of profs are employees. #lrnchat
5:56:31 pm Quinnovator: @kellygarber it’s not just the work product, it’s the associated discussion! #lrnchat
5:56:38 pm gminks: sad I’m missing #lrnchat. I have to have my ePortfolio done to graduate
5:56:39 pm jaycross: Q1 Do people hire ghost writers for their blogs? #lrnchat
5:56:39 pm mrch0mp3rs: Just passing through, #lrnchat, but my blog/site is/will be the hub for my social presence (and it’s optimized as such, as you guys know)
5:56:39 pm kelly_smith01: I sometimes have bloggers block #lrnchat
5:56:41 pm tonya_simmons: @Erick1970 journalism (where I come from) = procrastination #lrnchat
5:56:46 pm ajeanne: Q1 Best idea I’ve heard for blogs is to write posts that have value for your readers. #lrnchat
5:56:55 pm Erick1970: @kelly_smith01 A living portfolio. :) #lrnchat
5:56:59 pm hjarche: a blog can be written, a photo blog, a video blog or just stuff that you’ve done (the original life-streaming) #lrnchat
5:57:05 pm sahana2802: RT @ichrisbarnes Q1. The best portfolio is public thinking, meaningful engagement in professional community. Blogs everyone? #lrnchat
5:57:05 pm RandySmithCan: Q1) If we asked woman/man on the street if they have/will create a portfolio, will they get it? Needs defining? App driven like FB? #lrnchat
5:57:06 pm Quinnovator: RT @spotlearning: an e-portfolio could be a useful device, especially w/a peer rating system…vote up competency validation #lrnchat
5:57:11 pm nancyrubin: Considered important (very) in higher ed today – does that transfer to corporate (real) world? Is it just for education? wondering? #lrnchat
5:57:15 pm RobRobertson: if you are a person who enjoys prose perhaps a blog is a good eport but if you are not bent that way it is just a scary blank slate #lrnchat
5:57:24 pm JaneBozarth: @kelly_smith01 I say closer to group blog. How’s the Walrus Venn diagram coming? #lrnchat
5:57:24 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @jaycross: Q1 Do people hire ghost writers for their blogs? #lrnchat
5:57:28 pm kelly_smith01: RT @ichrisbarnes: Q1. Id say the best portfolio is public thinking, meaningful engagement in professional community. #lrnchat
5:57:31 pm Quinnovator: I’ve seen *guest* bloggers… RT @jaycross: Q1 Do people hire ghost writers for their blogs? #lrnchat
5:57:34 pm davegray: @hjarche not sure you should own your own. When it comes to resume/reputation, other’s opinions and authentication matter too #lrnchat
5:57:36 pm JffZllr: A little late… Jeff Zoller; Learning Developer.. Columbus OH #lrnchat
5:57:38 pm jadekaz: Q1 Elearning is especially difficult to capture in portfolio if it’s published to intranet. #lrnchat
5:57:45 pm reward75: @Erick1970 Almost all job seekers have ePortfolios. Most are awful at representing their owners. – How should a good one be? #lrnchat
5:57:51 pm JaneBozarth: RT @Quinnovator: think we’re talking 2 types: 1 is overall portfolio, but also… separate portfolios for different competencies #lrnchat
5:57:52 pm mrch0mp3rs: @oxala75 Think the issue is more complex. There are various ways one contributes to a project. Context is needed for portfolio incl #lrnchat
5:57:58 pm kristineshaheen: @JaneBozarth I think topics are the easy part; until commiting to them being “relevant”. Should every experience have value ? #lrnchat
5:58:07 pm hjarche: @jaycross I find I’m blogging BETTER with advent of Twitter and other media – keeps me focused and extra stuff goes elsewhere #lrnchat
5:58:15 pm TerrenceWing: Coaching reports, Perf Appr, resume, all ports e or not. How do orgs manage the data to access? #lrnchat
5:58:17 pm tonya_simmons: and I know that I’m doing this elearnin’ stuff – I have no idea how put anything together – our courses are the prop of our clients #lrnchat
5:58:23 pm Dave_Ferguson: @ajeanne Agree, Jeanne, tho’ lots of value for me in blog as thinking-out-loud-for-myself. #lrnchat
5:58:32 pm RandySmithCan: Q1) App driven to spur adoption? Like Twitter and FB? #lrnchat
5:58:35 pm kasey428: RT @ichrisbarnes: Q1. Id say the best portfolio is public thinking, meaningful engagement in professional community. #lrnchat
5:58:41 pm Mary_a_Myers: in corp world i see more team capes being showcased; not individual, which makes sense i guess. #lrnchat
5:58:45 pm Callooh: As a writer I have been hired to write blog content. #lrnchat.
5:58:49 pm gminks: ok I’m in #lrnchat now. :) hi everyone :) the barebones for my portfolio is on my blog #lrnchat
5:58:55 pm shantarohse: @RobRobertson Blogs are not prose only. e.g. Tumblr. In fact portfolios should not be prose only. #lrnchat
5:59:02 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @mrch0mp3rs: @oxala75 issue more complex. Various ways one contributes to a project. Context is needed for portfolio incl #lrnchat
5:59:05 pm hjarche: @davegray think you should own your data but still connect to other services & people; just don’t depend on them #lrnchat
5:59:07 pm chrisstjohn: But when does a comment become a blog? Is it all about regularity? #lrnchat
5:59:16 pm kelly_smith01: @JaneBozarth Must determine the number of circles. Need to review my old K-5 teacher manual Venn: mountain/jungle #lrnchat
5:59:16 pm tmiket: RT @kasey428: RT @ichrisbarnes: Q1. Id say the best portfolio is public thinking, meaningful engagement in professional community. #lrnchat
5:59:23 pm jaycross: RT @hjarche: @jaycross I find Im blogging BETTER with advent of Twitter and other media; keeps me focused and extra goes elsewhere #lrnchat
5:59:24 pm mrch0mp3rs: Concur. RT @hjarche: @jaycross I find I’m blogging BETTER w/ advent of Twitter, other media – keeps me focused #lrnchat
5:59:39 pm jadekaz: @tonya_simmons I feel you. I’m in same boat. Screen captures of elearning are not helpful. The good stuff is how it works. #lrnchat
5:59:41 pm jsuzcampos: Good article in the May 2009 CLO magazine on Portfolios and the May 2009 #astd Infoline. #lrnchat
5:59:48 pm Erick1970: @Mary_a_Myers So it is important to frame the ePortfolio in a meaningful context. #lrnchat
6:00:06 pm gminks: I also have it started on visualcv. #lrnchat
6:00:09 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @shantarohse: @RobRobertson Blogs are not prose only. e.g. Tumblr. In fact portfolios should not be prose only. Visuals needed #lrnchat
6:00:10 pm kristineshaheen: Hmmm. RT @Dave_Ferguson Please, can we drop the silly e from portfolio? Or will we write with epens on epaper, efolders for…? #lrnchat
6:00:10 pm davegray: I’m an artist & journalist. In those fields we can show work: illustrations we did, articles we wrote. In many fields it’s your rep #lrnchat
6:00:12 pm mrch0mp3rs: Google will show you most everything you need to see in my portfolio #lrnchat
6:00:26 pm sahana2802: RT @jsuzcampos Good article in the May 2009 CLO magazine on Portfolios and the May 2009 #astd Infoline. #lrnchat
6:00:28 pm jadekaz: RT @kasey428: RT @ichrisbarnes: Q1. Id say the best portfolio is public thinking, meaningful engagement in professional community. #lrnchat
6:00:29 pm ThomasStone: We seem to like idea of ePortfolios in corp. world… but would average manager care, or those in HR? I wonder. #lrnchat
6:00:30 pm kasey428: I just got in. Had dinner w/fellow lrnchat professional, Jeanette Campos. Ready to think about my e-portfolio #lrnchat
6:00:31 pm jaycross: Q1 I can tell more about a person from their contacts than their self-descriptions. #lrnchat
6:00:36 pm Dave_Ferguson: Like@hjarche, I get uneasy about data backup. Recall recent smartphone fiasco? #lrnchat
6:00:43 pm kelly_smith01: RT @jsuzcampos: Good article in the May 2009 CLO magazine on Portfolios and the May 2009 #astd Infoline. (Will check…) #lrnchat
6:00:44 pm JaneBozarth: @chrisstjohn Good Q. Length, and my need to Hold Forth at length rather than just a line or 2 #lrnchat
6:00:45 pm shantarohse: @mrch0mp3rs Twitter keeps you focused? Me too. And beer keeps me sober. #lrnchat
6:01:06 pm RobRobertson: @shantarohse completely concur they should not be completely prose need to check out tumblr as blogs to me seem to be open letters #lrnchat
6:01:14 pm JaneBozarth: I’m searching for #lrnchat live on TweetGrid Search – http://tweetgrid.com/search?q=%23lrnchat
6:01:17 pm lrnchat: Just joining us and not sure what’s the question? You can always check @lrnchat
6:01:27 pm mrch0mp3rs: Question for @lrnchat (and #lrnchat): are we only looking at ourselves in this question or are we thinking beyond?
6:01:32 pm lrnchat: Q2) How can Web 2.0 tools be used to help assess people’s competencies and/or knowledge? #lrnchat
6:01:37 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @shantarohse: @mrch0mp3rs Twitter keeps you focused? Me too. And beer keeps me sober. #lrnchat
6:01:41 pm SueSchnorr: True!@ jaycross: Q1 I can tell more about a person from their contacts than their self-descriptions. #lrnchat
6:01:45 pm davegray: When reputation is what distinguishes your professional work, others’ opinions matter more than your own. Need to recognize that #lrnchat
6:01:48 pm Mary_a_Myers: if a corp has a strong learning team for example, you’d think they’d want to promote via portfolio or otherwise #lrnchat
6:01:58 pm RobRobertson: @jaycross my contacts are blue…what do you know about me now ;-) #lrnchat
6:01:59 pm JaneBozarth: RT @kasey428: RT @ichrisbarnes: Q1. Id say the best portfolio is public thinking, meaningful engagement in professional community. #lrnchat
6:02:07 pm shannypez: someone have a good example of e-portfolio? I’ve heard of people doing video resumes, but haven’t seen one #lrnchat
6:02:08 pm Dave_Ferguson: @chrisstjohn To me, blog is regular first, then frequent. Like easing into exercise. Of course, I haven’t posted in 3 weeks… #lrnchat
6:02:10 pm Erick1970: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can Web 2.0 tools be used to help assess peoples competencies and/or knowledge? #lrnchat
6:02:12 pm Quinnovator: what would constitute good evidence for a competency? Thinking: independent task skill test, … #lrnchat
6:02:13 pm kelly_smith01: Much of my stuff was produced by a team – I was a co-author maybe did the A & DD of ADDIE #lrnchat
6:02:17 pm tmiket: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can Web 2.0 tools be used to help assess people’s competencies and/or knowledge? #lrnchat
6:02:17 pm mrch0mp3rs: @shantarohse I’m not kidding when I agree re: focus. Scarcity of 140chars brings me clarity of thought. #lrnchat
6:02:23 pm ajeanne: @Dave_Ferguson Awesome if blogging is of value 2 blogger. If to help with other goals, needs value or folks won’t read. #lrnchat
6:02:26 pm nancyrubin: can easily be done with Google tools – http://bit.ly/2TaJl6 #lrnchat
6:02:27 pm sahana2802: RT @lrnchat Q2) How can Web 2.0 tools be used to help assess people’s competencies and/or knowledge? #lrnchat
6:02:29 pm JaneBozarth: My interest 2night: Q2) How can Web 2.0 tools be used to help assess people’s competencies and/or knowledge? #lrnchat
6:02:32 pm oxala75: @kasey428 am jealous. #lrnchat
6:02:40 pm Quinnovator: …, work-related product with ‘directors notes’ style reflection, comments from co-workers/manager, … #lrnchat
6:02:54 pm Erick1970: RT @Quinnovator: what would constitute good evidence for a competency? Thinking: independent task skill test, … #lrnchat
6:02:57 pm tmiket: Q2 2.0 tools seem to spotlight the more competent people naturally #lrnchat
6:03:00 pm kasey428: Last e-portfolio I pulled together was for grad school, 7 years ago. Much of what I do now is proprietary. #lrnchat
6:03:01 pm shantarohse: Q1 Wondering if portfolios would work as part of a formal part of a performance mgt system. #lrnchat
6:03:05 pm davegray: I agree with you Jay Q1 I can tell more about a person from their contacts than their self-descriptions. #lrnchat (via @jaycross)
6:03:06 pm reward75: @ThomasStone IMO, HR would care, it would be easier to match an candidate. A portfolio provides more context than a resume #lrnchat
6:03:10 pm Quinnovator: …and contributions to discussions on topics, including blog posts, discussion messages, presentations. #lrnchat
6:03:18 pm Dave_Ferguson: Most of my career, I’ve worked on custom learning for outside clients–so details are theirs. Clever analogies are mine. #lrnchat
6:03:29 pm JaneBozarth: @shannypez Video Resume: Elle Woods in “Legally Blonde”! #lrnchat
6:03:32 pm littleasklab: RT @Quinnovator: …, work-related product with ‘directors notes’ style reflection, comments from co-workers/manager, … #lrnchat
6:03:33 pm jadekaz: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can Web 2.0 tools be used to help assess peoples competencies and/or knowledge? #lrnchat
6:03:38 pm spotlearning: Small samples of the *kinds* of innovations you dev help describe your competency…as well as share ideas with others #lrnchat
6:03:40 pm Quinnovator: RT @RobRobertson: @jaycross my contacts are blue…what do you know about me now ;-) #lrnchat
6:03:40 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: …, work-related product with directors notes style reflection, comments from co-workers/manager, … #lrnchat
6:03:41 pm kasey428: @oxala75 You should be. She is mah-vah-lous. #lrnchat
6:03:44 pm hjarche: social web tools can assess how much one is able to connect and to whom (in all directions) – one node in the network #lrnchat
6:03:44 pm everyselearning: can someone provide an example or two of an eportfolio? #lrnchat
6:03:45 pm jaycross: Q2 Web 2.0 begets transparency — both ways — and that makes for a better fit of who’s needed and who the person is. #lrnchat
6:03:45 pm Erick1970: RT @reward75: @ThomasStone HR would care, it would be easier to match an candidate. A portfolio provides more context than a resume #lrnchat
6:03:46 pm gminks: Q2 growth, as opposed to static resume? more rounded view of skills? #lrnchat
6:03:47 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: …and contributions to discussions on topics, including blog posts, discussion messages, presentations. #lrnchat
6:03:47 pm roninchef: @mrch0mp3rs It does help clarify a thought. Rewritten many a tweet to get a full idea across. #lrnchat
6:04:00 pm mrch0mp3rs: @davegray Same could be said about who’s Twitter lists you’re in right? I mean, we’re all thinking it… #lrnchat
6:04:04 pm TerrenceWing: Q2) I’ve read blogs where I assessed the blogger was a complete INcompetent #lrnchat
6:04:04 pm kristineshaheen: Q1 I find a whole portfolio to be superfluous for business, except for reference. Key samples are appreciated, but rep still #1. #lrnchat
6:04:05 pm Dave_Ferguson: @tmiket The 2.0 tools may more likely spot competent people who use 2.0 tools. Can get a bit in-crowdish. #lrnchat
6:04:18 pm jsuzcampos: RT @mrch0mp3rs @shantarohse Re: the focus of140 characters <I just read an article that called Twitter "haiku-like precision" #lrnchat
6:04:26 pm JoanVinallCox: Q2 Web2.0 tools – demonstrate individual work and drive to keep up in communication #lrnchat
6:04:27 pm Quinnovator: agree with @jaycross, would add to portfolio components in competency: who you value, listen to, follow, etc #lrnchat
6:04:35 pm chambo_online: Lisa Chamberlin, freelance online educator, currently house sitting and watching my neighbor's kids – lame wifi here. #lrnchat
6:04:39 pm SueSchnorr: tell us more -sounds interesting… @tmiket: Q2 2.0 tools seem to spotlight the more competent people naturally #lrnchat
6:04:44 pm kristineshaheen: #lrnchat But, I think that portfolio is still primarily important to focus career goals, marketing material, etc. Your brand in general.
6:04:45 pm RobRobertson: we actually have an eport of sorts in our corp…but its cumbersome and lack of portability keeps me from embracing it #lrnchat
6:04:48 pm jaycross: Q2 Malcolm Gladwell: Job interviews two minutes long would save us all a lot of time and the choices made would not suffer. YouTube #lrnchat
6:04:51 pm oxala75: @SueSchnorr i think that leads into an answer to Q2: web 2.0 social media networks may go far in giving ppl a idea of who u r #lrnchat
6:04:55 pm gminks: Here's me playing around with visual CV – needs work though http://www.visualcv.com/gminks #lrnchat
6:05:00 pm odguru: @ThomasStone Gladwell tells us a look around their office is the most revealing #lrnchat …
6:05:01 pm spotlearning: Q2) Web 2.0 tools show how and whether competent others interact with your ideas. #lrnchat
6:05:06 pm TerrenceWing: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can Web 2.0 tools be used to help assess people's competencies and/or knowledge? #lrnchat
6:05:07 pm laurajohannsen: Hi-missed several wks, but here now. #lrnchat
6:05:13 pm Erick1970: Q2 2.0 can better help people develop new competencies. #lrnchat
6:05:18 pm nancyrubin: http://bit.ly/4bNd3Z #lrnchat
6:05:19 pm allisunelearns: Q2) Web 2.0 tools make it easy to create the mashups of content that make a slick portfolio possible. #lrnchat
6:05:23 pm gminks: @stevetodd where are you? we are talking about my idea in #lrnchat
6:05:23 pm davegray: Like this idea. But not fair to all eg "John Smith" Google will show u most everything u need to see in my portfolio #lrnchat RT @mrch0mp3rs
6:05:25 pm jaycross: Q2 People adept with web 2.0 tools ARE better knowledge workers, I'd bet #lrnchat
6:05:28 pm JaneBozarth: RT @mrch0mp3rs Re: the focus of140 characters <I just read an article that called Twitter "haiku-like precision" #lrnchat
6:05:43 pm jadekaz: @mrch0mp3rs So, may want to add your Lists to your portfolio. :) Or not depending on the lists you're on. #lrnchat
6:05:47 pm roninchef: Q2 Web 2.0 apps will display how broad or narrow your spectrum is. Who your tribe is and what you bring to the table. #lrnchat
6:05:59 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @jaycross: Q2 M Gladwell: Job interviews 2 minutes – would save us a lot of time and the choices made would not suffer. YouTube #lrnchat
6:06:12 pm Erick1970: RT @allisunelearns: Q2) Web 2.0 tools make it easy to create the mashups of content that make a slick portfolio possible. #lrnchat
6:06:37 pm chambo_online: Q2) Those w/o competence usually can't figure out the tools easily – they self-identify by pleas for help. #lrnchat
6:06:39 pm odguru: RT: @Dave_Ferguson 2.0 tools spot competent people who use 2.0 tools. A bit in-crowdish.#lrnchat << like asking for it in braille for some.
6:06:42 pm ThomasStone: @reward75 Right… I was thinking about ePortfolios internally, as part of perf. review process or similar. #lrnchat Not sure HR would care
6:06:45 pm shantarohse: Interesting RT @gminks: Heres me playing around with visual CV – needs work though http://www.visualcv.com/gminks #lrnchat
6:06:46 pm Dave_Ferguson: @davegray Yes, and "Dave Ferguson" gets you a pastor and an athlete. Neither from Cape Breton Island. #lrnchat
6:06:47 pm jaycross: RT @gminks: Heres me playing around with visual CV – Make it more visual, Gina. :-) #lrnchat
6:06:55 pm laurajohannsen: Interesting idea. RT @shantarohse: Q1 Wondering if portfolios would work as part of a formal part of a performance mgt system. #lrnchat
6:06:57 pm kelly_smith01: portfolio comments could include approach to accessing needs, working with a SMEs or expert performer – notes,project history #lrnchat
6:07:06 pm jadekaz: Q2 How do you take a web 2.0 portfolio to a traditional job interview? Sit side by side looking at computer together? #lrnchat
6:07:10 pm TerrenceWing: Q2) I guess, usage and followership, feedback, Retweets, etc are signs of performance #lrnchat
6:07:10 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @Erick1970: RT @allisunelearns: Q2) Web 2.0 tools – easy to create the mashups of content that make a slick portfolio possible. #lrnchat
6:07:16 pm oxala75: @mrch0mp3rs sorry, missed this tweet. yes, i agree – but a good opportunity to convey what kinds of positions you play. #lrnchat
6:07:16 pm shannypez: @gminks I'm beginning to get the picture! thanks for being my example! #lrnchat
6:07:17 pm ajeanne: Q2 If having a network is important, 2.0 tools can show evidence of an online network, anyway. #lrnchat
6:07:19 pm davegray: Like this. RT @quinnovator agree with @jaycross, would add components in competency: who you value, listen to, follow, etc #lrnchat
6:07:22 pm Callooh: @jaycross And demonstrate they keep up with tech advances/are flexible about tools #lrnchat
6:07:27 pm JaneBozarth: A.M.E.N !!! RT @jaycross: Q2 People adept with web 2.0 tools ARE better knowledge workers, I'd bet #lrnchat
6:07:35 pm Dave_Ferguson: @JaneBozarth Casual observation suggests it's very easy to write bad haikus. #lrnchat
6:07:39 pm nickfloro: @shannypez example, not exactly, but I love the idea to ve applied to what we do – 37signals haystack.com – it's to showoff wrk #lrnchat
6:07:40 pm spotlearning: @jaycross Q2 pple are definitely better virtual collaborators. #lrnchat
6:07:44 pm tmiket: @SueSchnorr More talented folks have more followers, linked to more frequently, come up higher on list of Google searches, etc #lrnchat
6:07:44 pm RobRobertson: You guessed it! It is Thursday night and I am with learning peeps at lrnchat…where are you? #lrnchat
6:07:44 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can Web 2.0 tools be used to help assess people's competencies and/or knowledge? #lrnchat
6:08:03 pm ThomasStone: Context for my question is in light of heavy emphasis on "objectives" for perf. reviews. Where would ePortfolio fit in? #lrnchat
6:08:07 pm allisunelearns: @roninchef Web 2.0 makes it evident really quickly if you have no presence = no tribe #lrnchat
6:08:11 pm nancyrubin: what types of tools are you using to create your own social networks? #lrnchat
6:08:12 pm mrch0mp3rs: @roninchef It happens to me about every half-hour I'm on Twitter. That might be conservative estimating, too. #lrnchat
6:08:13 pm tonya_simmons: @Dave_Ferguson yeah well, you should see what comes up when you put Goth in a search – and yes, it's my actual birth cert. name #lrnchat
6:08:23 pm Quinnovator: Q2: capture contributions in social media, support evaluations from others #lrnchat
6:08:24 pm tmiket: @Dave_Ferguson Good point re: "in-crowdish" #lrnchat
6:08:26 pm sahana2802: RT @roninchef Q2 Web 2.0 apps will display how broad or narrow your spectrum is. Who your tribe is and what you bring to the table. #lrnchat
6:08:30 pm kelly_smith01: Q2 Web2 could show you "play well with others" with smiley face #lrnchat
6:08:32 pm ajeanne: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @JaneBozarth Casual observation suggests its very easy to write bad haikus. #lrnchat
6:08:42 pm ichrisbarnes: Q1 Agree w @jaycross @davegray @Quinnovator @mrch0mp3rs about rep & company one keeps. ; ) #lrnchat
6:08:50 pm jadekaz: Q2 How would web 2.0 technologies help portray soft skills and personality? Those are often main sellers at interviews. #lrnchat
6:08:54 pm kristineshaheen: #lrnchat *Evaluating* competencies in Web 2.0? Seems more of a development tool, to me. : / What am I missing (with technophobes)?
6:08:57 pm davegray: @mrch0mp3rs exactly. Don’t want to give extra points for being a suck-up. Unless you’re hiring for that :) #lrnchat
6:08:58 pm shantarohse: Not just job interviews! RT @jaycross: Gladwell: Job interviews 2 min – would save us a lot of time, choices made would not suffer. #lrnchat
6:09:00 pm NicoleLazzaro: Web 2.0 Tools: It’s not who you know, but how you collaborate with them. #lrnchat
6:09:10 pm kellygarber: when “work” is proprietary, have to spend time creating pieces you can own and show. #lrnchat
6:09:12 pm JaneBozarth: @Dave_Ferguson Speaking of… have you seen Tonight show vid of Shatner reading Levi of Wasilla’s tweets? #lrnchat
6:09:17 pm reward75: How many people really know what competencies (not skills) they have? Would be fruitless to demonstrate what you don’t know. #lrnchat
6:09:19 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @roninchef Q2 Web 2.0 apps will display how broad or narrow your spectrum is. Who your tribe is and what you bring to the table. #lrnchat
6:09:25 pm jkunrein: @tmiket hmm… by “more talented” do you mean “more internet savvy”? #lrnchat
6:09:28 pm mrch0mp3rs: That’s my MO – RT @jadekaz: Q2 How do you take a web 2.0 portfolio to interview? Sit side by side looking at computer together? #lrnchat
6:09:37 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @NicoleLazzaro: Web 2.0 Tools: Its not who you know, but how you collaborate with them. #lrnchat
6:09:41 pm nancyrubin: Anyone using http://elgg.org/ #lrnchat
6:09:43 pm TerrenceWing: Web 2.0 has to be deployed with purpose otherwise it will be ineffective with gauging competence #lrnchat
6:09:48 pm bschlenker: RT @JaneBozarth: A.M.E.N !!! RT @jaycross: Q2 People adept with web 2.0 tools ARE better knowledge workers, I’d bet #lrnchat
6:09:52 pm kristineshaheen: Ah. True! RT @roninchef Q2 Web 2.0 apps will display how broad or narrow your spectrum is. Who your tribe is and what you bring…. #lrnchat
6:09:55 pm kellygarber: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2 Web2 could show you “play well with others” with smiley face #lrnchat
6:10:02 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @NicoleLazzaro: Web 2.0 Tools: Its not who you know, but how you collaborate with them. #lrnchat
6:10:03 pm kelly_smith01: Q2> Could show you are hip with the times and can pull in info/experts from variety of sources #lrnchat
6:10:03 pm Quinnovator: web 2.0 can support, capture, represent your stage in migration from periphery to center of Community of Practice #lrnchat
6:10:14 pm hjarche: RT @NicoleLazzaro Web 2.0 Tools: It’s not who you know, but how you collaborate with them #lrnchat
6:10:17 pm oxala75: RT @allisunelearns Web 2.0 makes it evident really quickly if you have no presence = no tribe #lrnchat
6:10:18 pm Dave_Ferguson: @JaneBozarth I’d rather be trampled to death by hamsters than hear Levi in any form. #lrnchat
6:10:22 pm allisunelearns: @JaneBozarth Saw the Shatner vid today. LM…Aoh. #lrnchat
6:10:25 pm kristineshaheen: RT jadekaz Q2 How would web 2.0 technologies help portray soft skills and personality? Those are often main sellers at interviews. #lrnchat
6:10:25 pm jaycross: RT @NicoleLazzaro: Web 2.0 Tools: Its not who you know, but how you collaborate with them. BUT you gotta know ‘em first, eh? #lrnchat
6:10:26 pm tonnet: RT @Quinnovator: capture contributions in social media, support evaluations from others #lrnchat
6:10:33 pm Callooh: @jadekaz Think it only gets you to the interview. Soft skills tested at the interview. #lrnchat
6:10:34 pm ichrisbarnes: RT @NicoleLazzaro: Web 2.0 Tools: Its not who you know, but how you collaborate with them. #lrnchat
6:10:35 pm bschlenker: RT @iChrisBarnes: Q1 Agree w @jaycross @davegray @Quinnovator @mrch0mp3rs about rep & company one keeps. < see what I did there? #lrnchat
6:10:36 pm nancyrubin: @mrch0mp3rs often you are asked to provide a link before you can send one as follow up – not to replace resume #lrnchat
6:10:42 pm JaneBozarth: Ok– Have trainers. Have "training". How can we use Web 2.0 to assess "learning", learner development, learner competence? #lrnchat
6:10:43 pm sahana2802: RT @Quinnovator web 2.0 can support, capture, represent your stage in migration from periphery to center of Community of Practice #lrnchat
6:10:47 pm Quinnovator: @ichrisbarnes LOL #lrnchat
6:10:48 pm ThomasStone: @Dave_Ferguson early days, so in-crowd is an issue. But someday, Web 2.0 tools will be water we all swim in. #lrnchat
6:10:50 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @jkunrein: @tmiket hmm… by "more talented" do you mean "more internet savvy"? #lrnchat
6:10:58 pm Mary_a_Myers: to me it's like walking the walk and talking the talk (is that the right expression?) … if you want to use 2.0 in learning… #lrnchat
6:10:58 pm jkunrein: RT @Quinnovator: web 2.0 can support, capture, represent your stage in migration from periphery to center of Community of Practice #lrnchat
6:10:58 pm spotlearning: @kellygarber Yes, I've done this before, demonstrating concepts rather than full work products in a portfolio. #lrnchat
6:11:02 pm ichrisbarnes: RT @Quinnovator: web 2.0 can support, capture, represent your stage in migration from periphery to center of Community of Practice #lrnchat
6:11:03 pm tmiket: @jkunrein Good point but depending on the field that could equate somewhat to more talented couldn't it? #lrnchat
6:11:10 pm kristineshaheen: @JoanVinallCox @NicoleLazzaro I think that's idealistic. Sometimes, it's exactly about who you know. #lrnchat
6:11:14 pm lisagualtieri: Hi @jkunrein! Left to tell bedtime story, can not catch up #lrnchat
6:11:16 pm oxala75: @kellygarber yeah, that's been my slow revelation. #lrnchat
6:11:16 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: web 2.0 can support, capture, represent your stage in migration from periphery 2 center of Community of Practice!! #lrnchat
6:11:18 pm Quinnovator: @davegray ot #lrnchat
6:11:20 pm davegray: RT @NicoleLazzaro: Web 2.0 Tools: Its not who you know, but how you collaborate with them. #lrnchat (via @JoanVinallCox)
6:11:24 pm Mary_a_Myers: then you should be using it and connecting with others #lrnchat
6:11:28 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @nancyrubin: Anyone using http://elgg.org/ Used to, in old version. Still trying to learn new #lrnchat
6:11:43 pm ajeanne: Q2 Have to be careful, though. Some exceptional people are not (yet) playing with 2.0. #lrnchat
6:11:47 pm allisunelearns: RT @jaycross: RT @NicoleLazzaro: Web 2.0 Tools: Not who you know, but how you collaborate with them. BUT gotta know em first, eh? #lrnchat
6:11:48 pm roninchef: @mrch0mp3rs There are times I feel like I am channeling Bukowski when the thought is full and the words are spare. Magic. #lrnchat
6:11:55 pm ThomasStone: IBM uses Web 2.0 tools internally so heavily and well… do they have ePortfolio concept as part of formerly-named BluePages? #lrnchat
6:11:56 pm mrch0mp3rs: @nancyrubin I don't think you can replace resume as the executive summary, but once you're there – open up the browser and share #lrnchat
6:12:00 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Heyoooo! Sorry I'm late.
6:12:00 pm Quinnovator: @davegray it’s like academia, your intellectual heritage (who your advisor was, and who his or her advisor was…) #lrnchat
6:12:04 pm shannypez: My first #lrnchat and I am already blown away by the collective genius here. wheels are a-spinning
6:12:05 pm JaneBozarth: RT @Quinnovator: web 2.0 can support, capture, represent your stage in migration from periphery to center of Community of Practice #lrnchat
6:12:05 pm gminks: here are the guidelines to my program’s required portfolio: http://bit.ly/owXKc #lrnchat
6:12:07 pm spotlearning: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @JaneBozarth I’d rather be trampled to death by hamsters than hear Levi in any form. #lrnchat <– too funny!
6:12:13 pm jkunrein: @tmiket definitely could but not necessarily for all fields… or even most, in my opinion #lrnchat
6:12:15 pm nancyrubin: @kristineshaheen or who knows you #lrnchat
6:12:21 pm hybridkris: @mrch0mp3rs You know, I keep a portfolio on my iPhone. It's a great way to showcase things. Plus it's geek bonus points. #lrnchat
6:12:29 pm allisunelearns: @JaneBozarth By the frequency at which they Tweet/blog/comment about topics learned? #lrnchat
6:12:34 pm kellygarber: @spotlearning right – especially when the work you CAN do is greater than what a client has wanted you to do. #lrnchat
6:12:38 pm Quinnovator: RT @kellygarber: when work is proprietary, have to spend time creating pieces you can own and show. #lrnchat
6:12:42 pm mrch0mp3rs: @roninchef Never read Bukowski, but you hit it on the head for me. #lrnchat
6:12:44 pm TerrenceWing: Ultimately isn't W2.0 the tool. How can we measure the carpenter's competence by looking at the hammer. OUTCOMES #lrnchat
6:12:46 pm shantarohse: Q2 Web tools work for if your medium is web 2.0 I have seen good paper "e"-portfolios too. #lrnchat
6:12:47 pm SueSchnorr: Is it ok to ask new question? #lrnchat -What are your fav sites for finding new contractor- instr design projects?
6:12:47 pm JoanVinallCox: @allisunelearns You can start online & meet later #lrnchat
6:12:55 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @mrch0mp3rs There are times I feel like I am channeling Bukowski when the thought is full and the words are spare. Magic. #lrnchat
6:13:00 pm gminks: @JaneBozarth maybe web 2.0 could be leveraged to show how you have gained mastery using informal methods #lrnchat
6:13:02 pm mrch0mp3rs: RT @roninchef:There are times I feel like I am channeling Bukowski when the thought is full and the words are spare. Magic. #lrnchat
6:13:02 pm oxala75: @moehlert Norm #lrnchat
6:13:02 pm hjarche: @JoanVinallCox @nancyrubin I find new version of Elgg much improved. Been using it off & on since '04 #lrnchat
6:13:04 pm ajeanne: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @JaneBozarth Id rather be trampled to death by hamsters than hear Levi in any form. #lrnchat #lrnchat
6:13:08 pm jaycross: RT @ThomasStone: IBM … do they have ePortfolio concept as part of formerly-named BluePages? YES but they have trouble filling it #lrnchat
6:13:12 pm kristineshaheen: #lrnchat Think we're assuming a hiring manager. Are there deliberate applications for learning evaluations post-hire? New competencies?
6:13:12 pm Dave_Ferguson: @ajeanne I figure we're nearly thru 2nd of the 6 standard deviations of 2.0 adoption. #lrnchat
6:13:20 pm moehlert: RT @hybridkris: @mrch0mp3rs I keep a portfolio on my iPhone. It's a great way to showcase things. Plus it's geek bonus points. #lrnchat
6:13:22 pm sahana2802: RT @bschlenker RT @JaneBozarth: A.M.E.N !!! RT @jaycross: Q2 People adept with web 2.0 tools ARE better knowledge workers, I'd bet #lrnchat
6:13:27 pm JaneBozarth: @allisunelearns Yes, but want them to do more than write. Also have some not strong writers. #lrnchat
6:13:28 pm tmiket: @jkunrein what about our field of learning? just curious #lrnchat
6:13:30 pm mrch0mp3rs: @hybridkris Unfortunately, Flash doesn't run on the phone (nor do the ADL SCORM 2004 Content Examples) #lrnchat
6:13:31 pm Erick1970: @hybridkris Smart idea #lrnchat
6:13:36 pm nancyrubin: http://www.digication.com/personal #lrnchat
6:13:47 pm ajeanne: Good point: RT @shantarohse: Q2 Web tools work for if your medium is web 2.0 I have seen good paper "e"-portfolios too. #lrnchat
6:13:48 pm allisunelearns: I'm at this. RT @Quinnovator: web 2.0 can support, capture, represent your stage from periphery to center of Community of Practice #lrnchat
6:13:56 pm kristineshaheen: @SueSchnorr Talking to real people in the real world. Nothing else is every the same. #lrnchat As much as I love the Internet!!
6:13:57 pm richardsheehy: @shannypez just don't have a blow out on your first trip :) #lrnchat
6:13:58 pm Quinnovator: @nancyrubin actually, think elgg is basis of Jane Hart's (@c4lpt )social media system! #lrnchat
6:13:59 pm jaycross: RT @gminks: @JaneBozarth maybe web 2.0 could be leveraged to show how you have gained mastery using informal methods #lrnchat
6:14:02 pm kelly_smith01: Collaboration via web 2.0 could save time and $$$$$ and foster partner relationships for business #lrnchat
6:14:34 pm Callooh: @Quinnovator. That's probably good since you can demonstrate range and do projects that are good for the soul. #lrnchat.
6:14:36 pm odguru: Ok to gauge adoption and CoP migratory patterns provided quality AND quality measures can be accessed. #lrnchat
6:14:38 pm moehlert: @oxala75 What's going Mr Peterson? Let's talk about what's going IN Mr Peterson #lrnchat
6:14:43 pm mrch0mp3rs: Thanks to @hybridkris I'm now srsly wondering how I ever get hired to begin with. I #fail. #lrnchat
6:14:53 pm Erick1970: mrch0mp3rs @hybridkris I think android supports that stuff… or so I've heard. #lrnchat
6:14:56 pm roninchef: @mrch0mp3rs You, sir, are missing out. His poetry and stories are real things of beauty. In a dirty, grimy, drunken king of way. #lrnchat
6:14:56 pm oxala75: @mrch0mp3rs yeah, i was wondering about that. #lrnchat
6:15:00 pm kasey428: RT @kelly_smith01: Collaboration via web 2.0 could save time and $$$$$ and foster partner relationships for business #lrnchat
6:15:05 pm chambo_online: Q2 – Assess lrning by creating authentic tasks vs mult. choice quizzes. If W2.0 is authntic 2 the task, it will assess the lrning. #lrnchat
6:15:09 pm allisunelearns: @JaneBozarth I like the web2.0 tool Animoto to create mashups of content, Voicethread to leave audio commentary #lrnchat
6:15:13 pm Mary_a_Myers: @roninchef opps sorry i attributed the bukowski note not to you…trying to …keep…up #lrnchat
6:15:16 pm nancyrubin: Instead of ePortfolio how about Personal Learning System http://bit.ly/1PeFVN #lrnchat
6:15:20 pm bacigalupe: Q2: Web2.0 tools may aid in the interactive/collaborative and display element of the portfolio but not necessarily in its quality #lrnchat
6:15:34 pm ichrisbarnes: Q2. In part, skilled use of 2.0 tools suggests (but does not prove) an inclination to learn and engage. #lrnchat
6:15:35 pm JaneBozarth: @jaycross I like that– mastery using informal methods — #lrnchat
6:15:40 pm mrch0mp3rs: @oxala75 This is a topic for a whole other #lrnchat
6:15:47 pm jaycross: RT @Quinnovator: @nancyrubin elgg is basis of Jane Harts (@c4lpt )social media system! NB: After investigating many alternatives #lrnchat
6:15:47 pm NicoleLazzaro: @hybridkris @mrch0mp3rs I keep slides from my talks and PlayShops like this one: http://bit.ly/1E9WKp on my iPhone #lrnchat
6:15:52 pm gminks: here is my collection of portfolio "stuff" http://bit.ly/1XcfXk & http://gminks.edublogs.org/portfolio/ #lrnchat
6:15:53 pm ajeanne: Q2 Certainly, a person can write seriously stupid things online & some of those things can be accessed just about forever. #lrnchat
6:15:58 pm nancyrubin: Web 2.0 tools encourage collaboration – allow groups to work more effectively #lrnchat
6:16:00 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @Quinnovator: @nancyrubin actually, think elgg is basis of Jane Harts (@c4lpt )social media system! It is. Since Dave & Ben? #lrnchat
6:16:14 pm Quinnovator: me too! RT @hybridkris: @mrch0mp3rs keep a portfolio on my iPhone. A great way to showcase things. Plus it's geek bonus points. #lrnchat
6:16:18 pm mrch0mp3rs: @roninchef Putting on Kindle app now. I am easily goaded. #lrnchat
6:16:26 pm jaycross: Bukowski would love it here. Clark, do you have the alcohol out? #lrnchat
6:16:34 pm nancyrubin: RT @JaneBozarth: @jaycross I like that– mastery using informal methods — critical literacies for success #lrnchat
6:16:35 pm jkunrein: @tmiket more and more, yes, but maybe not in other knowledge work. #lrnchat
6:16:36 pm odguru: Ok to gauge adoption and CoP migratory patterns provided quantity AND quality measures can be accessed. I see a lot of usage #s #lrnchat
6:16:41 pm davegray: I really like #lrnchat. Great use of #Twitter. If you're into learning give it a look. Happening now!
6:16:42 pm JaneBozarth: RT @ajeanne: a person can write seriously stupid things online & some of those things can be accessed just about forever. #lrnchat
6:16:47 pm hybridkris: @Erick1970 @mrch0mp3rs Android does support a lot of stuff. With a little coding, it's fairly easy to develop a simple system. #lrnchat
6:16:50 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @nancyrubin: Instead of ePortfolio how about Personal Learning System http://bit.ly/1PeFVN YES!!! #lrnchat
6:16:51 pm jkunrein: @tmiket and i think that also measures an inclination to be social, not *just* web savvy #lrnchat
6:16:58 pm hjarche: @JoanVinallCox Ben no longer with Elgg #lrnchat
6:17:03 pm ajeanne: Q2 There was that poor speaker at #heweb09 this week, last? Lots of posts analyzing his #fail & reactions on Twitter. #lrnchat
6:17:05 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @allisunelearns: @JaneBozarth I like the web2.0 tool Animoto to create mashups of content, Voicethread to leave audio commentary #lrnchat
6:17:19 pm Erick1970: @gminks But how do you take it beyond the text to a descriptive & concise story? #lrnchat
6:17:32 pm shantarohse: Terrific idea! RT @mrch0mp3rs keep a portfolio on my iPhone. A great way to showcase things. Plus its geek bonus points. #lrnchat
6:17:33 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @ichrisbarnes: Q2. In part, skilled use of 2.0 tools suggests (but does not prove) an inclination to learn and engage. #lrnchat
6:17:34 pm kristineshaheen: Yes! Best for web / computer based skills? RT chambo_online Q2 If W2.0 is authntic 2 the task, it will assess the lrning. #lrnchat
6:17:36 pm JaneBozarth: RT @JoanVinallCox: RT @nancyrubin: Instead of ePortfolio how about Personal Learning System http://bit.ly/1PeFVN YES!!! #lrnchat
6:17:36 pm moehlert: . RT @davegray: I really like #lrnchat. Great use of #Twitter. If you're into learning give it a look. Happening now!
6:17:39 pm mrch0mp3rs: Now I'm paranoid I don't have an iPhone portfolio with me. I think I'm going to freak out now. Panic setting in. #lrnchat
6:17:50 pm Erick1970: @hybridkris Hoping to pick up one of those android 2.0 devices tomorrow. #lrnchat
6:18:04 pm JaneBozarth: @allisunelearns THAT is what I am looking for 2night. Thank you! #lrnchat
6:18:22 pm ajeanne: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Now Im paranoid I dont have an iPhone portfolio with me. I think Im going to freak out now. Panic setting in. #lrnchat
6:18:22 pm davegray: Q2. In part, skilled use of 2.0 tools suggests (but does not prove) an inclination to learn and engage. #lrnchat (via @iChrisBarnes)
6:18:22 pm tmiket: @jkunrein I'm with you…altho all things being equal I think I'd rather have the more social person working for/with me #lrnchat
6:18:23 pm jaycross: Q2 Sorry, dude, your social network is not the caliber we're looking for in this position. #lrnchat
6:18:32 pm jkunrein: @mrch0mp3rs yeah, i'm wondering… is there an app for that?? #lrnchat
6:18:32 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @hjarche: @JoanVinallCox Ben no longer with Elgg – Is Dave? #lrnchat
6:18:35 pm oxala75: @ajeanne one's ability to minimize stupid things said on the intarwebz is a skill that deserves some recognition #lrnchat
6:18:42 pm roninchef: @mrch0mp3rs Post Office, Factorum and Ham on Rye for stories. Love is a Dog From Hell is my favorite book of poems. #lrnchat
6:18:48 pm moehlert: @mrch0mp3rs Easy Big Fella…deep breaths…. #lrnchat
6:18:51 pm kasey428: Using Google Sites to create e-portfolios for students http://bit.ly/1zxCo, might be a good place to start. #lrnchat
6:18:53 pm sahana2802: RT @davegray I really like #lrnchat. Great use of #Twitter. If you're into learning give it a look. Happening now!
6:18:58 pm hybridkris: @mrch0mp3rs We'll chat. I'm here to help. #lrnchat
6:19:01 pm kellygarber: Q2 because no one has said Wave in the past 20 minutes – could Wave become a collaborative portfolio …of sorts? #lrnchat
6:19:03 pm JaneBozarth: RT @jaycross: Q2 Sorry, dude, your social network is not the caliber we're looking for in this position. #lrnchat
6:19:06 pm gminks: @Erick1970 I don't know yet. That is for next semester – hoping to get ideas tonight! #lrnchat
6:19:09 pm Quinnovator: that's me! RT @JaneBozarth: a person can write seriously stupid things online & those things can be accessed just about forever. #lrnchat
6:19:16 pm moehlert: RT @jaycross: Q2 Sorry, dude, your social network is not the caliber we're looking for in this position. #lrnchat Love it!
6:19:17 pm Erick1970: RT @iChrisBarnes: Q2. In part, skilled use of 2.0 tools suggests (but does not prove) an inclination to learn and engage. #lrnchat
6:19:23 pm ichrisbarnes: @jaycross LOL. #lrnchat
6:19:27 pm JaneBozarth: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Now I'm paranoid I don't have an iPhone portfolio with me. I think I'm going to freak out now. Panic setting in. #lrnchat
6:19:27 pm hjarche: @JoanVinallCox Yup! #lrnchat
6:20:00 pm spotlearning: @mrch0mp3rs Think I could use this as a valid excuse to get an iPhone? '-) #lrnchat
6:20:04 pm chambo_online: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @jaycross: Q2 Sorry, dude, your social network is not the caliber were looking for in this position. #lrnchat
6:20:04 pm odguru: RT @jaycross Sorry, dude, your social network is not the caliber we're looking for in this position. #lrnchat
6:20:11 pm Erick1970: @gminks Maybe an animoto video? #lrnchat
6:20:12 pm TerrenceWing: @allisunelearns Tx for the Animoto tip. I hadn't heard of it before. Pretty cool #lrnchat
6:20:15 pm kristineshaheen: #lrnchat Sorry to edit down RT's… we're all pushing the character limit. :)
6:20:24 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator @quinnovator Sorry, does someone need a drink? #lrnchat
6:20:27 pm NicoleLazzaro: @jaycross Indeed. Web 2.0 collaboration expands networks and deepens social bonds and emotions like trust. #lrnchat
6:20:29 pm jadekaz: @mrch0mp3rs I know. Me: No I don't have a portfolio with me. But look at this neat app! It tells me what song is playing. #lrnchat
6:20:35 pm Erick1970: RT @kasey428: Using Google Sites to create e-portfolios for students http://bit.ly/1zxCo, might be a good place to start. #lrnchat
6:20:38 pm shannypez: RT @oxala75: one's ability to minimize stupid things said on the intarwebz is a skill that deserves some recognition #lrnchat <–well said
6:20:42 pm moehlert: @jaycross And can I just say "holy Crap Jay!!" Nice pic! #lrnchat
6:20:48 pm Quinnovator: Tell me more! RT @allisunelearns: I'm at this. RT @Quinnovator: web 2.0 can support… your stage from periphery to center of CoP #lrnchat
6:20:51 pm bschlenker: Dang it! Y'all keep RT'ing the good stuff before I get a chance too :( #lrnchat
6:20:52 pm nickfloro: Q2 posterous.com & tumblr.com are also great for portfolio. I use post more but you can setup free w/pw and collab with peers. #lrnchat
6:21:04 pm jaycross: People, you realize, I hope, that #lrnchat is simply a screening tool for IBM recruiters. The system analyzes everything you tweet #lrnchat
6:21:06 pm mrch0mp3rs: @spotlearning If your portfolio is not made up exclusively of kids Flash content, Flash e-learning and SCORM 2004 content? hell yes #lrnchat
6:21:07 pm davegray: Hah! It happens IRL Jay! RT @jaycross: Q2 Sorry, dude, your social network is not the caliber were looking for in this position. #lrnchat
6:21:08 pm Mary_a_Myers: stupid is subjective. i've talked more about zombies in the last week then ever before and I'm sure that will come back to haunt me #lrnchat
6:21:08 pm nancyrubin: @Erick1970 http://bit.ly/VtapO #lrnchat
6:21:09 pm roninchef: @oxala75 Do more good than stupid is my motto. My Col. Kurtz style ramblings from when I was a chef are still out there, somewhere. #lrnchat
6:21:12 pm Erick1970: RT @NicoleLazzaro: @jaycross Indeed. Web 2.0 collaboration expands networks and deepens social bonds and emotions like trust. #lrnchat
6:21:14 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @NicoleLazzaro: @jaycross Indeed. Web 2.0 collaboration expands networks and deepens social bonds and emotions like trust. #lrnchat
6:21:17 pm oxala75: @kellygarber i was thinking that, but current instability puts me off. def possible – like little ecosystems of past collaborations #lrnchat
6:21:28 pm JaneBozarth: @spotlearning Yes, if you don't have an iPhone, then you obviously need one for your eportfolio #lrnchat
6:21:30 pm Quinnovator: RT @jaycross: Q2 Sorry, dude, your social network is not the caliber we're looking for in this position. #lrnchat
6:21:47 pm RandySmithCan: @jaycross You would be better off back at the Patent Office Mr. Einstein? Serious learning and innovation working long before web2. #lrnchat
6:22:09 pm jaycross: RT @JaneBozarth: @spotlearning Yes, if you dont have an iPhone, then you obviously need one for your eportfolio #lrnchat
6:22:13 pm chambo_online: @gminks – I've been playing with a "visual" CV also. Check out Wix. http://www.wix.com/chamblan/ChamberlinCV #lrnchat
6:22:16 pm spotlearning: Q2) Yeah, I’m thinking Android & portfolio before someone kicks me out of #lrnchat for insufficient geek-factor.
6:22:17 pm Erick1970: @nancyrubin Thank you for the link. #lrnchat
6:22:18 pm Quinnovator: @oxala75 you youngsters weren’t around in the early days when we didn’t know it would live *forever* #lrnchat
6:22:36 pm ThomasStone: RT @jaycross: Q2 Sorry, dude, your social network is not the caliber we’re looking for in this position. #lrnchat
6:22:38 pm nickfloro: Q2 How important do you think it is to measure or have peers measure your strengths via app or should this be done traditionally? #lrnchat
6:22:43 pm laurajohannsen: Ha-ha! RT @jaycross: Q2 Sorry, dude, your social network is not the caliber we’re looking for in this position. #lrnchat
6:22:48 pm ajeanne: Great rationale: RT @JaneBozarth: @spotlearning Yes, if you dont have an iPhone, then you obviously need one for your eportfolio #lrnchat
6:22:48 pm JaneBozarth: @jaycross Sorry, Jay, what will you be having? #lrnchat
6:22:48 pm odguru: Cop doing a background check once said 2 me: you’ve been good, skilled or lucky. SoMe artifacts tell a certain type of story #lrnchat
6:22:51 pm bacigalupe: RT @Quinnovator @jaycross: Q2 Sorry, dude, your social network is not the caliber we’re looking for in this position #lrnchat Auchh!
6:22:52 pm roninchef: @mrch0mp3rs You’ll love it. I pull it down every now and then and skim a few. Good, good stuff. Watch Barfly too. #lrnchat
6:22:54 pm shantarohse: @Mary_a_Myers According to bitly, my most popular tweet link is to “Pride and Prejudice and Zombies.” #lrnchat
6:22:59 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth not (hic) me! #lrnchat
6:23:00 pm chrisstjohn: Sorry guy, but we dont need a Yammerer, just a Twitter Jedi… #lrnchat
6:23:16 pm jkunrein: RT @jaycross: Q2 Sorry, dude, your social network is not the caliber were looking for in this position. #lrnchat
6:23:21 pm kellygarber: @oxala75 right! as a freelancer, i would love a way to show what I could bring to the table collaborating with my network. #lrnchat
6:23:22 pm nancyrubin: LOVE THIS – blortfolios – blog/portfolio – http://bit.ly/19mDVv #lrnchat
6:23:29 pm kristineshaheen: Did I mention Steve Jobs, yet? lol RT JaneBozarth Yes, if you don’t have an iPhone, then you obviously need one for your eportfolio #lrnchat
6:23:33 pm nickfloro: @ajeanne Great way to this is just using the photos area to share and tell your story or a pdf #lrnchat
6:23:37 pm kelly_smith01: Q2 Someday Web 2.0 will be the pet rock or Edsel of our time #lrnchat
6:23:40 pm SueSchnorr: @Quinnovator: Thanks for the link and for being so diplomatic! :) #lrnchat
6:23:40 pm Erick1970: @spotlearning Why not Android? Why does everything have to be iphone? (heresy, I know) #lrnchat
6:23:53 pm oxala75: @Quinnovator hey, we all have photos that will haunt us. #lrnchat
6:23:56 pm kasey428: May I stream my e-portfolio film on your TV? Credits would include many of you guys! #lrnchat
6:24:04 pm NicoleLazzaro: RT @jaycross: Q2 Sorry, dude, your social network is not the caliber we’re looking for in this position. #lrnchat
6:24:39 pm oxala75: @roninchef hopefully, appraisers of your online imprint have their own Orkut-style awkward moments and sympathize :) #lrnchat
6:24:53 pm kasey428: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2 Someday Web 2.0 will be the pet rock or Edsel of our time #lrnchat
6:24:54 pm JaneBozarth: @kelly_smith01 And then we can say, in disdainful tones, “That is SO Web 2.0.” #lrnchat
6:24:56 pm spotlearning: @Erick1970 Is there an app for that? #lrnchat
6:25:05 pm reward75: RT @Erick1970: @spotlearning Why not Android? Why does everything have to be iphone? #lrnchat
6:25:06 pm kelly_smith01: All photos haunt me. But the photo guy at the DMV looked like Amsel Adams #lrnchat
6:25:06 pm nancyrubin: Digital storytelling – combining narrative with digital content – very important skill today #lrnchat
6:25:13 pm richardsheehy: RT @nancyrubin: LOVE THIS – blortfolios – blog/portfolio – http://bit.ly/19mDVv #lrnchat
6:25:16 pm kristineshaheen: Well, except it’s really just lingo, isn’t it? RT @kelly_smith01 Q2 Someday Web 2.0 will be the pet rock or Edsel of our time #lrnchat
6:25:17 pm JaneBozarth: RT @nancyrubin: LOVE THIS – blortfolios – blog/portfolio – http://bit.ly/19mDVv #lrnchat
6:25:27 pm odguru: RT: @kelly_smith01 Q2 Someday Web 2.0 will be the pet rock or Edsel of our time #lrnchat
6:25:33 pm Quinnovator: @SueSchnorr just don’t tell anyone, or you’ll ruin my reputation #lrnchat
6:25:36 pm ajeanne: Maybe Web 2.0 will be the Web 1.0 of our time. :) RT @kelly_smith01: Q2 Someday Web 2.0 will be the pet rock or Edsel of our time #lrnchat
6:25:43 pm davegray: We are talking a lot about social fluency, or should I say social media fluency? It’s a literacy that will only increase in value #lrnchat
6:25:50 pm allisunelearns: I love Web 2.0’s digital storytelling capabilities, good summary here http://bit.ly/1Rk1zP & some here http://bit.ly/1fVHpF #lrnchat
6:25:57 pm kristineshaheen: #lrnchat This has become comedy hour… I’m loving it!!
6:26:04 pm Quinnovator: @oxala75 photos? No, I’m talking recipes, movie reviews, and surf guides. Pretty much text back then… #lrnchat
6:26:08 pm jaycross: RT @JaneBozarth: @jaycross Sorry, Jay, what will you be having? | Aping Bukowski, I think I’d like a cup of swill. #lrnchat
6:26:08 pm nancyrubin: Web 2.0 focus is on content creation – portfolio natural progression – assemblage of content for presentation purposes #lrnchat
6:26:22 pm bschlenker: @Erick1970 Android will be good some day once the Opensource effect kicks in – just takes longer than the Jobs effect ;-) #lrnchat
6:26:36 pm Mary_a_Myers: @shantarohse that is too funny! #lrnchat
6:26:37 pm moehlert: @JaneBozarth I blortfolio’ed once, after I drank too much during #lrnchat
6:26:37 pm kristineshaheen: WOTD?! RT @nancyrubin: LOVE THIS – blortfolios – blog/portfolio – http://bit.ly/19mDVv #lrnchat
6:26:45 pm nancyrubin: @allisunelearns On the same wave length. #lrnchat
6:26:48 pm jaycross: RT @richardsheehy: RT @nancyrubin: LOVE THIS – blortfolios – blog/portfolio – http://bit.ly/19mDVv GREAT I need one of these #lrnchat
6:26:50 pm ajeanne: @kristineshaheen :) )) #lrnchat
6:27:01 pm jadekaz: Super geeked out thinking about an iPhone portfolio shown using the new iphone projector. http://bit.ly/14fDS4 #lrnchat
6:27:01 pm odguru: How about “blurtfolios” for your most memorable gaffs online #lrnchat.
6:27:14 pm Erick1970: @bschlenker I hope so. #lrnchat
6:27:17 pm gminks: @chambo_online thats neat but its so tiny! #lrnchat
6:27:22 pm hjarche: @jaycross Jay, change your poison and stop drinking swill; you deserve the good stuff #lrnchat
6:27:26 pm Quinnovator: RT @moehlert: @JaneBozarth I blortfolio’ed once, after I drank too much during #lrnchat
6:27:26 pm kellygarber: technically …the web didn’t change, how we used it changed. so what will we make of web 3.0? #lrnchat
6:27:28 pm roninchef: @oxala75 Not long ago I got Googled and was told what I add to the Web was over the head of the Googler & I had a good looking kid. #lrnchat
6:27:30 pm moehlert: @nancyrubin Kinda thought 2.0 was focused on network creation not content…. #lrnchat
6:27:38 pm kasey428: @jaycross A Bukowski lover? (BTW, love the “do”) #lrnchat
6:27:45 pm kelly_smith01: I am going to try to mention Web 2.0 on my resume er… blortfolio #lrnchat
6:27:53 pm spotlearning: They got your 1990’s portfolio right here: http://www.archive.org/index.php #lrnchat
6:28:02 pm chrisstjohn: Web 3.0 according to Vint Cerf. Now there is a focus! #lrnchat
6:28:08 pm JaneBozarth: I am mixing up some circa 1970s Tequila Sunrises for anyone who needs that. Just sayin’. #lrnchat
6:28:11 pm mrch0mp3rs: @moehlert I predict there will be a lot of blortfolio next week. #lrnchat
6:28:11 pm magdaZINE: Super late to #lrnchat. 30 min better than nothing? #lrnchat
6:28:16 pm gminks: RT @kristineshaheen: WOTD?! RT @nancyrubin: LOVE THIS – blortfolios – blog/portfolio – http://bit.ly/19mDVv #lrnchat
6:28:18 pm nancyrubin: @odguru exists already but not totally censored :-) My kids showed it to me (website) #lrnchat
6:28:20 pm Quinnovator: @kristineshaheen it’s just the usual antics of the cast, bunch of cutups and hams, the lot of ‘em #lrnchat
6:28:22 pm jaycross: RT @hjarche: @jaycross Jay, change your poison and stop drinking swill; you deserve the good stuff | I’ll have a single-malt swill #lrnchat
6:28:22 pm jadekaz: @allisunelearns I like the idea of digital storytelling done in portfolio. That would take some skill for ppl to get hang of. #lrnchat
6:28:24 pm oxala75: @roninchef ha. that’s at least definitely half complimentary! #lrnchat
6:28:47 pm kasey428: Maybe we should add Web 2.0 to the drinking game. #lrnchat
6:28:50 pm JaneBozarth: RT @roninchef:Not long ago got Googled, told what I add to the Web was over the head of the Googler & I had a good looking kid. #lrnchat
6:29:13 pm JaneBozarth: HA! RT @spotlearning: They got your 1990’s portfolio right here: http://www.archive.org/index.php #lrnchat
6:29:22 pm ajeanne: Fun to chat with y’all. I’m signing off now…. Hope to attempt worthwhile & fun SM with you nex time. #lrnchat
6:29:42 pm chrisstjohn: Blortfolio is a key symptom of H1N1 #lrnchat
6:29:42 pm Erick1970: RT @jadekaz: @allisunelearns Like the idea of digital storytelling done in portfolio. Would take some skill for ppl to get hang of. #lrnchat
6:29:43 pm bschlenker: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @nancyrubin: LOVE THIS – blortfolios – blog/portfolio – http://bit.ly/19mDVv #lrnchat 30 yrs & I was infected with learning/teaching bug. Love it. Hope to meet u at Devlearn.#lrnchat
6:58:43 pm bschlenker: RT @NicoleLazzaro: The Web allowed sharing documents. Web 2.0 allows sharing verbs. #lrnchat < beautiful!
6:58:45 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Can't wait to see all you #lrnchat'ers at #dl09 next week!! San Jose…we are inbound to your location…requesting flyby…..
6:58:52 pm NicoleLazzaro: FYI Mon I've a Seattle PlayShop on emotions that drive social distribution + monetization http://bit.ly/1E9WKp #lrnchat
6:58:59 pm kellygarber: Qwrap – Kelly Garber, freelance ISD – great discussion and ideas tonight, thanks! night all. #lrnchat
6:59:01 pm oxala75: @allisunelearns "elearning luvva"…ha #lrnchat
6:59:02 pm nancyrubin: eLearning addict, Instructional Systems Designer/ Developer, Interdisciplinary Ph.D. (last one gets me lots of letters after name) #lrnchat
6:59:04 pm Quinnovator: @SueSchnorr have to think, believe I've seen one but can't remember where! Try Clarity Consultants? #lrnchat
6:59:14 pm kristineshaheen: @JaneBozarth Haven't had a chance to tell you I saw you speak at the #CSTD conference. Compelling and hilarious. Thank you! #lrnchat
6:59:17 pm lrnchat: Thank you for joining us on #lrnchat. Pls remember to submit Qs & theme ideas for upcoming chats at http://sn.im/lrnchat. See u next week!

Transcript 29 October 2009

October 30, 2009 by Marcia Conner

8:30 pm lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been? Q0 warm up after the rules.
8:30 pm Quinnovator: @chambo_online no, the questions are queued up in a locked safe, only opened by goblins with the secret password #lrnchat
8:31 pm wlonline: In #lrnchat session, so apologies in advance for coming tweets
8:31 pm lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1) Introduce yourself. (We do this again at the end). Location? Focus? Fave topics?
8:31 pm Quinnovator: @LearnNuggets thanks for pointing to the rules, cold frosty one at my fingertips (and pretzels) #lrnchat
8:31 pm mkfrie: Been working so hard in eLearning, have not been thinking much about eLearning! Irony. #lrnchat
8:32 pm lrnchat: 2) [try to] stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 20 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
8:32 pm oxala75: on a shaky wifi connection, but will be getting my #lrnchat on as long as radio waves allow.
8:32 pm mkfrie: Mark Friedman, Advanced Technologies research for the Military, Suffolk, VA – mini games, flash training modules, Thin client VW #lrnchat
8:32 pm kelly_smith01: 1) Kelly Smith in Texas ISD/Performance nomad #lrnchat
8:32 pm joe_deegan: Known as the guy who does training things with computers located in Sacramento, CA #lrnchat
8:32 pm eduinnovation: I love how everyone in #lrnchat warns their followers that their about to see some super frenetic tweeting.
8:33 pm marciamarcia: Hilarious> RT @chambo_online Csikszentmihalyi … (Had to do something to loosen up my cold fingers…) #lrnchat
8:33 pm littleasklab: Attending #lrnchat for next hour. Please excuse the high twecival level and typos. Leslie in Seattle.
8:33 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, learning design mercenary, Walnut Creek CA, fringe explorer: mobile, social, games, virtual worlds, #lrnchat
8:33 pm lrnchat: 3) When writing, complete thoughts help followers outside chat learn from you. 4) on #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm, welcome tho.
8:33 pm jadekaz: My first #lrnchat! Chilling in Milwaukee as an ID in corp. environment. IPT student at BSU.
8:33 pm mrch0mp3rs: #lrnchat Aaron Silvers, Learning Strategist , nerd and “evangelist.” Chicago. Focus on better ways to connect, learn and grow virtually.
8:33 pm gminks: hi everyone, Gina, New England, IS grad student & education person @ #EMC. fav topic right now is performance + collaboration tools #lrnchat
8:33 pm eduinnovation: RT @lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1) Introduce yourself. (We do this again at the end). Location? Focus? Fave topics?
8:33 pm gminks: @mrch0mp3rs nerd!! :) #lrnchat
8:34 pm matt_murray: Training Manager at Dealer.com. Blog at etrainertalk.com. Lover of all things learning. Focusing on building trng organization. #lrnchat
8:34 pm roninchef: This aught to be fun. I’m upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10 while participating in #lrnchat
8:34 pm TerrenceWing: Terrence Wing in Los Angeles focus on leadership dev and learning favs elearning and simulation #lrnchat
8:34 pm eduinnovation: RT @lrnchat: 2) [try to] stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new ? will be asked every 20 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
8:34 pm lrnchat: 5) Periodically RT questions so others outside #lrnchat know what you?re talking about so they can chime in.
8:34 pm mrch0mp3rs: @gminks Oh like anyone here doesn’t know that already. Yet I volunteer it anyway. #lrnchat
8:34 pm lrnchat: @jadekaz Welcome! #lrnchat
8:34 pm Jeffhurt: Director Education & Events for a nonprofit in DFW Fav topic right now: Disruptive Innovatioin in Events & conference learning #lrnchat
8:34 pm chambo_online: Lisa Chamberlin Chesapeake, Va (Hi Mark), Freelance online educator, author, Chief janitor at my house also. Into OER and Open Ed #lrnchat
8:34 pm LearnNuggets: Kevin Thorn, a.k.a., NuggetHead. LMS Admin, elearn dev for AutoZone, Memphis. Currently in Boston #lrnchat
8:34 pm minutebio: Jeff, e-Learning Designer (corporate training) in Baltimore, USA #lrnchat
8:35 pm wlonline: WL Wong, ICT, uni, sydney, Australia interested in empowering learners #lrnchat
8:35 pm mrch0mp3rs: @jadekaz Welcome! Finally! Gawwwwwd! #lrnchat
8:35 pm peterflom: #lrnchat Introduction Peter, a stats geek from NYCC
8:35 pm peterflom: #lrnchat Introduction Peter, a stats geek from NYC
8:35 pm andrewoshea: hi all. AndrewOShea in Melb Australia. Trainer/Facilitator looking for contacts to discuss lots around Corporate OD… #lrnchat
8:35 pm lrnchat: 6) Remember to include the #lrnchat in all posts. http://tweetchat.com, http://tweetgrid.com & http://twubs.com/lrnchat work well.
8:36 pm Quinnovator: we used to use flying monkeys, but we had to sack them when they went on a banana liqueur binge #lrnchat
8:36 pm lrnchat: 7) 10 min before end, tell us if you need anything from the other #lrnchat participants. Time to reintroduce yourself, too. Links welcome.
8:36 pm Jeffhurt: @wlonline For my own edification, what time is it in Australia right now? #lrnchat
8:36 pm peterflom: @lrnchat #lrnchat I am on tweetdeck
8:36 pm oxala75: craig wiggins. elearning jockey for the fed’ral gubmint. DC metro area #lrnchat
8:36 pm roninchef: Ahoy, ahoy. Mason Masteka Elearning Curriculum Developer. Open Source advocate and maker of things. #lrnchat
8:36 pm wlonline: @JeffHurt 11:36 am in sydney #lrnchat
8:37 pm andrewoshea: 11.30am In Austrtalia – Ea Coast #lrnchat
8:37 pm lrnchat: 8) Please RT important points & vital questions asked for clarification, so we don’t miss them amid the lively fast-paced #lrnchat
8:37 pm Jeffhurt: @oxala75 I like that title eLearning jockey! Cool. #lrnchat
8:38:01 pm peterflom: #lrnchat not sure this is the right group for me, I know nothing about elearning
8:38:03 pm Jeffhurt: @wlonline Thanks. So it’s Friday morning there, right? #lrnchat
8:38:06 pm spotlearning: Q0 Joe Fournier, long-time learning pro (e-L spec) host of thelearningleaders.com podcast. Employed, but looking for a good change. #lrnchat
8:38:13 pm lrnchat: Q0 (our weekly #lrnchat welcome, also check out @lrn2day) What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
8:38:31 pm jadekaz: @mrch0mp3rs I know. I finally ran out of excuses :) Maternity leave sort of frees up all of your time. #lrnchat #lrnchat/
8:38:45 pm andrewoshea: Sure is.. #lrnchat
8:38:47 pm leavittm: Hi there, I’m Michelle Leavitt, upstate NY, asynchronous e-learning courseware product manager primarily for health care. #lrnchat
8:38:53 pm LearnNuggets: @peterflom No prob! If you like learning in general, you’ll enjoy this! #lrnchat
8:39:19 pm gminks: Q0 today I learned you never know when everything can change. :) #lrnchat
8:39:35 pm RobRobertson: Rob from Dallas interested in social media in the corp learning environ…Howdy Y’all #lrnchat
8:39:38 pm LearnNuggets: Q0: I learned drawing caricatures “Barcatures” of drunks while eating dinner is the best fun I’ve had all week! #lrnchat
8:39:41 pm wlonline: @Jeffhurt Yes, Friday morning here #lrnchat
8:39:56 pm mkfrie: @chambo_online Just followed you tonight – nice to know local LRN CHATTERS. #lrnchat
8:40:01 pm butwait: Shelley Krause, formerly of upstate NY (hi, @leavittm!), academic matchmaker (aka college counselor) & elearning evangelist in NJ #lrnchat
8:40:10 pm peterflom: Q0 #lrnchat today I learned about multiplicative coefficients method of assessing mediation in regression models
8:40:15 pm mrch0mp3rs: I learned how to set up and properly balance lighting, microphones and HD cameras for our first video shoot run internally #lrnchat
8:40:21 pm RobRobertson: Q0 learned that NASA has an iphone app keeping you up to date on current missions #lrnchat
8:40:23 pm Quinnovator: @lrn2day Q0: learned that 3×5 cards are great way to organize workshop: put topics on & shove around ’til looks good #lrnchat
8:40:27 pm kasey428: Kay Wood, performance consultant, elearning, training, social media fan and general knowledge junkie. DC area. #lrnchat
8:40:35 pm joe_deegan: Learned story boarding elearning can be fun if it’s a good story. #lrnchat
8:40:40 pm Quinnovator: @LearnNuggets they were even fun vicariously! #lrnchat
8:40:45 pm chambo_online: Q0 – Windows Vista – network icon in tray disappears…Fix: switch to classic view and then back…I lrned a great fix this week #lrnchat
8:40:56 pm roninchef: I learned today that I am a connector on Twitter and that @Quinnovator, @gminks, @shantarose are my puppet masters. #lrnchat
8:41:24 pm chambo_online: @mkfrie Thought I was the only Virginian for a while…lol #lrnchat
8:41:31 pm LearnNuggets: @Quinnovator Twitpics of them through @delanotho :) #lrnchat
8:41:33 pm kelly_smith01: Reading articles/books/etc. on virtual learning #lrnchat
8:41:49 pm mkfrie: Q0 – Learned that Vista 64bit File Explorer does not work like it did in XP – horrible job by MS teaching us that. #lrnchat
8:41:51 pm oxala75: @lrnchat i learned that i’m not done kicking in doors. I am looking forward to it, actually. #lrnchat
8:41:55 pm kelly_smith01: Or I should say Virtual Classroon #lrnchat
8:42:07 pm Quinnovator: Q0 @lrn2day also learned to look for clues in DevLearn Zombie Apocalypse #dl09za #lrnchat
8:42:08 pm matt_murray: @chambo_online You also learned that Vista really does make life more difficult! #lrnchat
8:42:11 pm busynessgirl: Laptop battery dead. Had to find power cord. Now fashionably late to #lrnchat (again).
8:42:24 pm spotlearning: Q0. Learned how Motorola implemented social learning across the org. #lrnchat
8:42:29 pm chambo_online: RT @peterflom: Q0 #lrnchat today I learned about multiplicative coefficients method of assessing …Me: he hurt my brain with that. #lrnchat
8:42:30 pm kasey428: Learned Murphy (of Law fame) works everywhere. Subcontractor misplaced an elearning database. Looking for it right now… #lrnchat
8:42:32 pm littleasklab: Today, I learned how to title public Twitter Llsts judiciously #lrnchat
8:42:33 pm kelly_smith01: RT @oxala75: @lrnchat i learned that im not done kicking in doors. I am looking forward to it, actually. #lrnchat
8:42:50 pm peterflom: #lrnchat I learned that I like Sam Smith Winter Welcome ale
8:42:52 pm busynessgirl: I learned so much about #WolframAlpha in the last week that it will take me months to blog about it all. #lrnchat
8:42:53 pm andrewoshea: Anyone know what the key growth area in corporate training is at the moment? Some say OD is the way to go! #lrnchat
8:42:57 pm chambo_online: @matt_murray Knew that already…lesson was reinforced. #lrnchat
8:43:07 pm minutebio: Today, I learned Adobe Flash CS3 should have a bullet icon in its menu, but does not. #lrnchat
8:43:10 pm LearnNuggets: @oxala75 Ha! Kicking in doors…”Hey, take your elearning or else!’ #lrnchat
8:43:44 pm kelly_smith01: Learned although I could have been in Denver I prefer real Oct. weather waiting 4 next project #lrnchat
8:43:45 pm joe_deegan: Learned how to do a near search in Twitter. http://bit.ly/3s50sk #lrnchat
8:43:52 pm nosnitsap: Sarcasm? RT @eduinnovation I love how everyone in #lrnchat warns their followers that they’re about to see some super frenetic tweeting.
8:43:59 pm jadekaz: @andrewoshea elearning #lrnchat
8:44:01 pm TerrenceWing: converting ppt to flash #lrnchat
8:44:01 pm Jeffhurt: Learning #1 from this week: We need to become information synthesizers. #lrnchat
8:44:12 pm busynessgirl: Dear followers: I will be in #lrnchat for the next 90 minutes. Either join us (search #lrnchat) or put up with lots of tweets. :)
8:44:17 pm peterflom: #lrnchat I also learned (again) that I am glad I work for nonprofits and academics
8:44:23 pm butwait: Q0: Today I learned that having an awesome PLN makes the old scouting adage “be prepared” one HECK of a lot easier to achieve. #lrnchat
8:44:25 pm Jeffhurt: Lrn #2: The more important a call or an action is to our soul’s evolution, the more resistance we will feel toward pursuing it. #lrnchat
8:44:33 pm marciamarcia: @andrewoshea Key growth area? I’d say delivering content via mobile devices. Guessing that will come up w/the Qs. #lrnchat
8:45:01 pm LearnNuggets: Q0: Learned that @jmarrapodi is the epitome of hospitality. Enjoyed a very warm welcome in her home w/ hubby and dinner. #lrnchat
8:45:11 pm Quinnovator: Q0: learned today that I have no idea what I might do with twitter lists #lrnchat
8:45:24 pm kelly_smith01: Also saw some cool demos of Adobe applications – I am little behind some folks #lrnchat
8:45:34 pm lrnchat: Q1) What are the benefits of focusing intentionally on learning socially during formal learning programs? #lrnchat
8:45:47 pm Jeffhurt: RT @busynessgirl (sort of RT): Dear followers: I will be in chat for next 90 mins. Either join us or prepare for lots of tweets. :) #lrnchat
8:45:48 pm Quinnovator: or facilitators? RT @Jeffhurt: Learning #1 from this week: We need to become information synthesizers. #lrnchat
8:45:48 pm TerrenceWing: learned some advantages of Android over Apple’s OS hmmm #lrnchat
8:45:58 pm kelly_smith01: Developing some checklist for Just In Time training – preparation #lrnchat
8:45:59 pm busynessgirl: @littleasklab Not the bike, although I did also have to change clothes. Not about to do the exercise bike in my magic boots. :) #lrnchat
8:46:00 pm roninchef: @LearnNuggets How is Ol’ New England treating you? #lrnchat
8:46:04 pm chambo_online: @marciamarcia @andrewoshea – I learned that I don’t know even the tip of the iceburg in mlearning -lol #lrnchat
8:46:07 pm oxala75: @JeffHurt thx. it suits :) #lrnchat
8:46:11 pm LearnNuggets: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are the benefits of focusing intentionally on learning socially during formal learning programs? #lrnchat
8:46:14 pm butwait: RT Dear followers: I’ll be in #lrnchat for the next 90 min. Either join us (search #lrnchat) or put up w/ lots of tweets. [me too!] #lrnchat
8:46:17 pm Quinnovator: RT @marciamarcia: @andrewoshea Key growth area? I’d say delivering content via mobile devices. Guessing that will come up w/the Qs. #lrnchat
8:46:32 pm mrch0mp3rs: Bonus learning today: Wave is… hinky. #lrnchat http://twubs.com/lrnchat
8:46:42 pm matt_murray: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are the benefits of focusing intentionally on learning socially during formal learning programs? #lrnchat
8:46:42 pm littleasklab: @Quinnovator I’m not sure the point is to “use” the lists as much as be on many lists – the good ones, of course #lrnchat
8:46:46 pm Quinnovator: not surprised RT @LearnNuggets: Q0: Learned that @jmarrapodi is epitome of hospitality. Enjoyed a warm welcome in her home #lrnchat
8:46:47 pm joe_deegan: Q 1)Social learning extends learning opportunities beyond the classroom. #lrnchat
8:46:51 pm Dave_Ferguson: I learned that my dad was a hell of a networker. #lrnchat
8:46:54 pm busynessgirl: Am also learning that Chrome may, in fact, be faster for TweetChat. #lrnchat
8:46:57 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are the benefits of focusing intentionally on learning socially during formal learning programs? #lrnchat
8:47:03 pm joe_deegan: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are the benefits of focusing intentionally on learning socially during formal learning programs? #lrnchat
8:47:04 pm jadekaz: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are the benefits of focusing intentionally on learning socially during formal learning programs? #lrnchat
8:47:07 pm LearnNuggets: @roninchef Rainy mostly, but its been a productive visit thus far #lrnchat
8:47:11 pm peterflom: #lrnchat Q1 I do not understand … define ’social’ and ‘formal’
8:47:13 pm oxala75: @LearnNuggets oh, they’ll take it and they’ll like it. #lrnchat #InappropriateThreats
8:47:23 pm spotlearning: Q1) Social learning intentionality generates learning outcomes for others and broadens perspectives. #lrnchat
8:47:25 pm Jeffhurt: @mrch0mp3rs Curious more about hinky but don’t want to get too far off chat topics. #lrnchat
8:47:29 pm busynessgirl: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are the benefits of focusing intentionally on learning socially during formal learning programs? #lrnchat
8:47:42 pm chambo_online: Q1 – Builds community quickly – “social” atmosphere breeds liberal discussion beyond the minimum course requirements. #lrnchat
8:47:48 pm mrch0mp3rs: Q1: Recognizes that there’s a backchannel (implicit goals) to our explicit learning goals. Possibility exists to leverage that. #lrnchat
8:47:57 pm roninchef: @mrch0mp3rs But think of the “back in the day” stories you will tell. You kids have it easy! #lrnchat
8:48:00 pm nancyrubin: Benefits of learning socially in formal environment is that students learn real world skills in addition to formal learning #lrnchat
8:48:00 pm gminks: Q1 I find it hard to teach if I don’t intentionally create a community with each class #lrnchat
8:48:03 pm busynessgirl: Q1: Benefits of focusing on social learning: Engagement, motivation, seeing learning through the eyes of others. #lrnchat
8:48:14 pm Quinnovator: Q1: 1) social can add to depth of formal learning outcomes, 2) can serve as segue to informal #lrnchat
8:48:23 pm hjarche: Q1) Is formal learning so damn different from life that you can remove the social aspect of humanity? A very clinical approach #lrnchat
8:48:24 pm jadekaz: Q1: power of using social learning- Using the power of what’s right in front of you #lrnchat
8:48:32 pm LearnNuggets: Q1: Social learning enhances and expands a formal experience to extend the learning beyond the classroom #lrnchat
8:48:37 pm peterflom: #lrnchat q1 seems to me that learning can be social or asocial, formal or informal, any of 4 combos
8:48:52 pm nancyrubin: How are you forming community – through DBs or through Web2.0 applications? #lrnchat
8:49:11 pm busynessgirl: For example, my students see that other students struggle with the same concepts, catch the enthusiasm of others, give pep talks. #lrnchat
8:49:15 pm Quinnovator: @peterflom much of formal is individual (e.g. async elearning), social is group activity, discussion… #lrnchat
8:49:19 pm minutebio: It empowers all of the audience and can celebrate the “mentors” in the audience. #lrnchat
8:49:23 pm joe_deegan: Social=what you are doing now. Formal=Structured course… RT @peterflom do not understand … define social and formal #lrnchat
8:49:29 pm andrewoshea: Never underestimate the mind power in a group of people gathered together.. #lrnchat
8:49:43 pm gminks: RT @hjarche: Q1) Is formal learning so damn different from life that you can remove the social aspect of humanity? #lrnchat
8:49:43 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Social learning considers current status, environment, & expereince of learners #lrnchat
8:49:44 pm nancyrubin: Hard to get buy-in from faculty to accept social learning tools as valid classroom devices. Anyone else have that experience? #lrnchat
8:49:47 pm chambo_online: @nancyrubin “yes” #lrnchat
8:49:47 pm TerrenceWing: Learners take personal responsibility more with social learning and possibly fill the gap faster #lrnchat
8:49:54 pm Quinnovator: @peterflom @marciamarcia adds dimension of accidental – intentional #lrnchat
8:49:57 pm jadekaz: Q1 Activation – using experiences to enhance transfer. Engagement – being involved with others. #lrnchat
8:49:58 pm littleasklab: Q1) These 3 social lrning design models from Jane Hart @c41pt may help http://twurl.nl/q02z3h #lrnchat
8:49:58 pm busynessgirl: @nancyrubin Definitely through Web2.0 … blogs, mindmaps, twitter, … #lrnchat
8:50:07 pm minutebio: Or tap into the brain of the mentors rather than celebrate #lrnchat
8:50:13 pm joegerstandt: RT @JeffHurt The more important a call or action is to our soul’s evolution, the more resistance we will feel toward pursuing it. #lrnchat
8:50:20 pm peterflom: #lrnchat Q1 although I am leery of ALL categories. I think nearly everything is on a continuum
8:50:24 pm Quinnovator: @littleasklab sounds good, but you can’t choose what lists you’re on, eh? :) #lrnchat
8:50:38 pm wlonline: @nancyrubin That is common: lack of buy-in #lrnchat
8:50:43 pm Priaak: Q1) What would qualify as learning socially? A workshop, group learning, collaborative tools? #lrnchat
8:50:45 pm mrch0mp3rs: RT @spotlearning: Q1) Social learning intentionality generates learning outcomes for others and broadens perspectives. #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:51:06 pm spotlearning: Social learning is not so time-bound…in many ways, the walls recede for fluid exchange. #lrnchat
8:51:10 pm kelly_smith01: In my exp. social learning critical for team building for accounting and risk assessment consultants #lrnchat
8:51:13 pm Quinnovator: Q1: the room is smarter than the smartest person in the room *if* you manage the process right ;) #lrnchat
8:51:15 pm peterflom: @Quinnovator #lrnchat I like that accidental intentional! I’ve learned lots by accident
8:51:23 pm busynessgirl: Most faculty don’t USE social learning tools, nor were THEY taught that way. We teach (mostly) how we were taught. @nancyrubin #lrnchat
8:51:32 pm mkfrie: rt @minutebio: Or tap into the brain of the mentors rather than celebrate #lrnchat
8:51:39 pm Jeffhurt: Much of formal lrn requires turn taking, social can be more collaborative and supersynchrony – polylogues like this more productive #lrnchat
8:51:42 pm LearnNuggets: RT @Quinnovator: Q1: the room is smarter than the smartest person in the room *if* you manage the process right ;) #lrnchat
8:51:46 pm lrnchat: Reminder there is NO EXPECTATION you’ll keep up w/ all the chatter on #lrnchat. It goes by fast. There’ll be a transcript after.
8:51:52 pm joe_deegan: I struggle to get participation with social learning. Not everyone jumps on the bandwagon like us. #lrnchat
8:51:55 pm minutebio: RT @Quinnovator: Q1: the room is smarter than the smartest person in the room *if* you manage the process right ;) #lrnchat
8:52:06 pm Jeffhurt: @Quinnovator Q1: Yes, trust the network, they usually know more than you do. #lrnchat
8:52:14 pm andrewoshea: The greatest sessions I have conducted are the ones that draw on the hidden knowledge in the room (virtual or live)! #lrnchat
8:52:25 pm nancyrubin: @busynessgirl Agreed – lots of training to get faculty comfortable using tools and THEN to apply to classroom. #lrnchat
8:53:03 pm mrch0mp3rs: @joe_deegan Full participation isn’t the goal, for me. Engagement is. You can be engaged and not directly contribute. #lrnchat
8:53:04 pm busynessgirl: @Quinnovator Didn’t you argue exactly the opposite of that statement just a few months ago? ;) #lrnchat
8:53:12 pm kelly_smith01: Role play or case study walk through with groups of learners w/feedback direction from experienced leader = social learning #lrnchat
8:53:13 pm Priaak: RT lrnchat Q1) What are the benefits of focusing intentionally on learning socially during formal learning programs? #lrnchat
8:53:18 pm nancyrubin: Anyone using rubrics for social learning tools – blogs, wikis, etc. – in the classroom? #lrnchat
8:53:20 pm peterflom: #lrnchat OTOH, a lot of geniuses were very solitary – asocial learners Newton and Turing and Godel for 3
8:53:20 pm chambo_online: “Intentional” use=as in I +’d the use of Twtr to my course design 2 have students interact beyond just my formal course questions. #lrnchat
8:53:21 pm gminks: not sure about this, but they will make you think twice @Quinnovator Q1: trust the network, they usually know more than you do. #lrnchat
8:53:34 pm roninchef: Q1 A class is a kind of micro-community. Adding a social learning goal can gel that sense of community. #lrnchat
8:53:38 pm mrch0mp3rs: @Jeffhurt all/many of us is abundantly smarter than any one of us. #lrnchat
8:53:40 pm kasey428: One of my performance goals for 2010 is to integrate appropriate social media tools as an adjunct to elearning and ILT courses. #lrnchat
8:53:43 pm Quinnovator: @Priaak yes, and discussion, group project, role-playing, commenting on other’s thoughts… #lrnchat
8:53:48 pm TerrenceWing: Does the value of the experience of the masses depend on the subject.? #lrnchat
8:53:56 pm matt_murray: Q)1 This questions begs for an idea of participant demographic an industry #lrnchat
8:54:01 pm spotlearning: @joe_deegan Bribing learners often works…even in social learning. Praise and status are powerful motivators…validation works #lrnchat
8:54:08 pm mrch0mp3rs: RT @Quinnovator: Q1: the room is smarter than the smartest person in the room *if* you manage the process right ;) #lrnchat
8:54:15 pm busynessgirl: For faculty: Teach them to PLAY with the tools in their own professional networks, then it starts making more sense. #lrnchat
8:54:23 pm Quinnovator: yes, can build relationships! T @kelly_smith01: In my exp. social learning critical for team building… #lrnchat
8:54:25 pm tmiket: OK. Late and trying to catch up…already off to a fast pace I see. #lrnchat
8:54:25 pm kelly_smith01: Or a virtual team w/role play or case study using social media = social learning #lrnchat
8:54:37 pm marciamarcia: Reminded the benefits of old friends in cities where you travel on biz when under the weather. You can just be. #lrnchat Q0 Thx @nyc_mom
8:54:55 pm nancyrubin: @kasey428 :-) . One of my performance goals is better adoption of the social learning tools we have licensed. #lrnchat
8:55:01 pm Jeffhurt: RT @spotlearning: Social learning…walls recede 4 fluid exchange. [more flexible, open-ended, multidirectional &multidimensional] #lrnchat
8:55:12 pm tmiket: @joe_deegan Most don’t know the bandwagon even exists #lrnchat
8:55:15 pm busynessgirl: @RobinThailand Join us in #lrnchat
8:55:15 pm jadekaz: re: the intentional aspect – planning and encouraging the unexpected #lrnchat
8:55:19 pm Quinnovator: Got to use, to get! RT @busynessgirl: Most faculty don’t USE social learning tools, nor taught that way. We teach how taught. #lrnchat
8:55:27 pm mrch0mp3rs: @Quinnovator I’d go as far as to reverse that – team building is critical for social learning #lrnchat
8:55:35 pm nancyrubin: @kelly_smith01 Do you pick tools they use or let them choose? For example, wikis for group activities vs blog for individual? #lrnchat
8:55:38 pm butwait: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are the benefits of focusing intentionally on learning socially during formal learning programs? #lrnchat
8:55:48 pm joe_deegan: Learning that adoption of social learning resources in an organization is a hard fought battle. #lrnchat
8:55:49 pm Quinnovator: @busynessgirl consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds ;) #lrnchat
8:56:10 pm hjarche: Q1) Working in networks means learning in networks & that is social, because you need multiple feedback loops #lrnchat
8:56:20 pm kellygarber: Q1) we learn more when we can use our experiences, double that when we can be an observer to the experiences of others. #lrnchat
8:56:30 pm minutebio: RT @joe_deegan: Learning that adoption of social learning resources in an organization is a hard fought battle. agreed #lrnchat
8:56:32 pm chambo_online: RT @Jeffhurt: RT @spotlearning: Social learning…walls recede 4 fluid exchange. [more flexible, open-ended,etc.] #lrnchat
8:56:52 pm peterflom: #lrnchat Solitude is the school of genius Emerson Q1
8:57:05 pm Quinnovator: @peterflom ah, but research shows that innovation is *not* individual #lrnchat
8:57:09 pm busynessgirl: Model that might work for training faculty: Spend 2-4 weeks using each tool, decide at the end of semester which work for them. #lrnchat
8:57:09 pm marciamarcia: @busynessgirl IMHO you can’t actually teach people to play. You can just show them it’s safe for them to do it. #lrnchat
8:57:12 pm andrewoshea: I.T.Security nazis aremy bigest hurdle followed by old fashioned business owners who refusetowengage innew things.. #lrnchat
8:57:22 pm Jeffhurt: Q1: Todays social learning is interactive without walls. learn anywhere, anytime, and with greater ease than ever before. #lrnchat
8:57:35 pm littleasklab: @nancyrubin 2009 U of Washington big survey on learning and technology might be helpful.Have pdf . “#lrnchat
8:57:35 pm kelly_smith01: @nancyrubin (choosing tools) depends on what tools are used in working environment – hopefuly tools used on job PC, mobile devise #lrnchat
8:57:57 pm busynessgirl: @Quinnovator I’m a mathematician you know, I have to pay attention to details like that. #lrnchat
8:58:05 pm mrch0mp3rs: @hjarche What are you playing the part of @moehlert tonight? :P #lrnchat
8:58:13 pm nancyrubin: @littleasklab Would love to see! #lrnchat
8:58:13 pm tmiket: @joe_deegan Just being in the fight improves your chances of ‘winning” #lrnchat
8:58:14 pm marciamarcia: We learn more when we can use our experiences, double that when we can be an observer to the experiences of others. #lrnchat RT @kellygarber
8:58:15 pm littleasklab: RT @Quinnovator: @peterflom ah, but research shows that innovation is *not* individual #lrnchat
8:58:21 pm Quinnovator: @mrch0mp3rs don’t know, I’ve learned a lot from some real, er, jerks #lrnchat
8:58:22 pm busynessgirl: @marciamarcia I think that with adults you DO have to teach them to play (again). If I just say “play” it doesn’t work … #lrnchat
8:58:30 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Jeffhurt: Q1: Todays social learning is interactive without walls. learn anywhere, anytime, and with greater ease than before. #lrnchat
8:58:38 pm chambo_online: For those stuck behind LMS, social learning is a secret escape route. #lrnchat
8:58:41 pm hjarche: @mrch0mp3rs no one can do that! #lrnchat
8:58:46 pm Quinnovator: RT @kellygarber: Q1) learn more when can use our experiences, double that when can be an observer to the experiences of others. #lrnchat
8:58:54 pm jadekaz: Q1 creating opportunity for lasting connections through trust and accomplishments #lrnchat
8:58:59 pm joe_deegan: @tmiket Great response. #lrnchat
8:59:04 pm busynessgirl: @marciamarcia But if I give an end goal, that involves play to get there, that seems to work. But safe is certainly required. #lrnchat
8:59:14 pm ArtPandscience: in classrooms students learn as much from each other as they do from the teacher..#lrnchat
8:59:25 pm mrch0mp3rs: @Quinnovator Just because we can learn that way doesn’t mean we always have to, right? #lrnchat
8:59:27 pm gminks: Isn’t all learning social? #lrnchat
8:59:32 pm urbie: @marciamarcia ideally you want the learner to be aroused by something in the presentation to the point they want to play with it #lrnchat
8:59:35 pm Quinnovator: @busynessgirl on any issue with n perspectives, I have n+1 opinions ;) #lrnchat
8:59:37 pm matt_murray: @chambo_online What about integrating LMS and socme? #lrnchat
8:59:39 pm busynessgirl: @chambo_online Especially since most LMS do not do social media well … definitely nice escape route! #lrnchat
8:59:45 pm spotlearning: RT @jadekaz: Q1 creating opportunity for lasting connections through trust and accomplishments #lrnchat
8:59:55 pm kasey428: Will experiement w/social media tools to determine which are approrpriate & effective in building community around subject areas. #lrnchat
8:59:56 pm hjarche: RT @gminks: Isnt all learning social? Yes #lrnchat
8:59:56 pm Priaak: Q1) better attention span, retention, motivation, fun and also a break from work, monotony #lrnchat
8:59:57 pm gminks: RT @hjarche: Q1) Working in networks means learning in networks & that is social, because you need multiple feedback loops #lrnchat
9:00:00 pm mrch0mp3rs: I’d argue it’s the main route already. RT @chambo_online: For those stuck behind LMS, social learning is a secret escape route. #lrnchat
9:00:03 pm busynessgirl: @gminks Ever been in a typical math class? LOL (not very social) #lrnchat
9:00:06 pm chambo_online: @gminks Try CISCO training for an answer to that. #lrnchat
9:00:23 pm chambo_online: @matt_murray Definitely…that is what we have to do. #lrnchat
9:00:28 pm dwilkinsnh: Not sure if it’s been said yet (just joining) — forming bonds that last beyond the formal event is a big one #lrnchat
9:00:28 pm Jeffhurt: q1: Formal lrn must integrate more collaborative, horizontal, networked lrng structures. Lrng as connectivity & Interactivity #lrnchat
9:00:30 pm kelly_smith01: RT @jadekaz: Q1 creating opportunity 4 lasting connections through trust & accomplishments (virtual teams – complex collaborations) #lrnchat
9:00:34 pm busynessgirl: @Quinnovator is a closet mathematician (and now has been outed) #lrnchat
9:00:35 pm tmiket: @urbie Yes agreed. Best learning is a starting point not an ending point. Curiosity to learn more is great #lrnchat
9:00:55 pm gminks: @busynessgirl oh I don’t agree. What happens after the lecture – the social filling in the blanks #lrnchat
9:01:00 pm spotlearning: @gminks I don’t think all learning is necessarily social, but all learning DOES have social implications, IMHO #lrnchat
9:01:02 pm mrch0mp3rs: #lrnchat If all you have is the LMS, trust me… there’s a lot more learning happening in your org than you’re tracking.
9:01:03 pm Quinnovator: @mrch0mp3rs much rather learn with (read: party) with good folks than jerks, absolutely. Can you say DevLearn? #dl09 #lrnchat
9:01:05 pm busynessgirl: RT @dwilkinsnh: Not sure if its been said yet (just joining) — forming bonds that last beyond the formal event is a big one #lrnchat
9:01:10 pm tmiket: RT @dwilkinsnh: Not sure if it’s been said yet (just joining) — forming bonds that last beyond the formal event is a big one #lrnchat
9:01:17 pm lrnchat: Just joining us and not sure what’s the question? You can always check @lrnchat #lrnchat
9:01:24 pm gminks: and my kids got taught in class but learned at home with pennies, apples, etc… #lrnchat
9:01:25 pm busynessgirl: Let me just repeat how wicked fast Chrome is with TweetChat … wow! #lrnchat
9:01:36 pm kasey428: @gminks Same is true for the standard accounting class…far from social. #lrnchat
9:01:40 pm matt_murray: @chambo_online I find the LMS is still the training metrics champion…agree? #lrnchat
9:01:40 pm gminks: oh and Schoolhouse rocks tapes #lrnchat
9:01:45 pm mrch0mp3rs: @Quinnovator DevLearn! #dl09 #lrnchat
9:01:51 pm jmarrapodi: @Quinnovator @LearnNuggets Aw shucks! #lrnchat Open doors and hearts in RI. Tweeting from car at red lights or I’d be there now. Hi all!
9:02:02 pm gminks: RT @mrch0mp3rs: #lrnchat If all you have is the LMS, trust me theres a lot more learning happening in your org than youre tracking. #lrnchat
9:02:03 pm Quinnovator: @dwilkinsnh bringing in all that touchy-feely stuff, gotta move you out here to California ;) #lrnchat
9:02:06 pm chambo_online: RT lrnchat Q1) What are the benefits of focusing intentionally on learning socially during formal learning programs? #lrnchat
9:02:15 pm Jeffhurt: q1: Key for social & informal learning: Fostering and managing levels of trust. #lrnchat
9:02:18 pm urbie: @busynessgirl depends on how it’s presented. give learners a context and ask them to do something with it can work #lrnchat
9:02:20 pm tmiket: @mrch0mp3rs I’d say there’s always more learning happening than LMS tracks…and LMS tracks stuff other than ‘learning’ #lrnchat
9:02:21 pm jadekaz: Yes! RT @dwilkinsnh: Not sure if its been said yet (just joining) — forming bonds that last beyond the formal event is a big one #lrnchat
9:02:34 pm andrewoshea: @tmiket It’s huge for most events to have a lasting impression. Any thoughts on the best way with people across a country? #lrnchat
9:02:40 pm hjarche: @gminks all learning is social, but not all teaching & training is social – hence the disconnect #lrnchat
9:02:41 pm busynessgirl: @mrch0mp3rs Bummed I won’t be at #dl09. Will have to follow the tweetstream. Instead I’ll be at a conference with NO Internet. #lrnchat
9:02:43 pm LearnNuggets: @jmarrapodi Not while driving I hope! #lrnchat
9:02:56 pm Jeffhurt: @jmarrapodi Oh, be careful! We need you well so we can pick your brain. #lrnchat
9:02:56 pm mrch0mp3rs: @matt_murray If measuring completions and quiz scores are your metrics, then yes. #lrnchat
9:02:58 pm Quinnovator: @busynessgirl it was computer science that did it, analysis of algorithms, yum! #lrnchat
9:03:03 pm kasey428: RT @dwilkinsnh: Not sure if its been said yet (just joining) — forming bonds that last beyond the formal event is a big one #lrnchat
9:03:05 pm busynessgirl: @urbie Are we talking play or math (or both?) ;) #lrnchat
9:03:07 pm nancyrubin: Social learning in formal situations allows the learning to take place outside the LMS (which can be restricting in an online env) #lrnchat
9:03:11 pm Quinnovator: RT @mrch0mp3rs: #lrnchat If all you have is the LMS, trust me… there’s a lot more learning happening in your org than you’re tracking.
9:03:11 pm ArtPandscience: #lrnchat short bursts of learning need to be integrated into the full picture somehow or expertise will be broken
9:03:35 pm gminks: agree!!! RT @hjarche: @gminks all learning is social, but not all teaching & training is social – hence the disconnect #lrnchat
9:03:44 pm dwilkinsnh: @Quinnovator LOL — I’m a big softie at heart… #lrnchat
9:03:47 pm matt_murray: @mrch0mp3rs What about LMS that delivers ALL training, tracks clicks on all learning media and reports who has accessed it? #lrnchat
9:03:48 pm mrch0mp3rs: @tmiket You make my point far better than I do. :) #lrnchat
9:04:05 pm tmiket: LMS more for CYA than for great learning IMHO #lrnchat
9:04:15 pm LearnNuggets: @tmiket @mrch0mp03 I don’t think an LMS will ever track ALL learning/training #lrnchat
9:04:17 pm busynessgirl: I met @Quinnovator @mrch0mp3rs @KoreenOlbrish and several others at a conference last summer – learning from them ever since. #lrnchat
9:04:19 pm matt_murray: @mrch0mp3rs The learner just never really sees it #lrnchat
9:04:21 pm cammybean: Watching my son in kindergarten — it’s all about the social learning — playing nice and all that. #lrnchat
9:04:30 pm chambo_online: @matt_murray I lack the data to give a good answer – just anecdotal (and my own experiences in training) #lrnchat
9:04:30 pm littleasklab: RT @chambo_online: For those stuck behind LMS, social learning is a secret escape route. #lrnchat
9:04:32 pm mrch0mp3rs: #lrnchat One thing we might want to gnaw on: when left to the network, they may learn something you don’t exactly want them to.
9:04:40 pm cammybean: RT @peterflom: #lrnchat Solitude is the school of genius Emerson Q1
9:04:43 pm mrch0mp3rs: @LearnNuggets That’s also my point. #lrnchat
9:04:46 pm Quinnovator: @ArtPandscience but this is short bursts, who’s responsible for the integration? #lrnchat
9:04:47 pm urbie: @busynessgirl best lesson i ever had in geometry was the french lieutenant having to figure out how much was needed to ford a river #lrnchat
9:04:47 pm ArtPandscience: #lrnchat in most companies 70% of the learning is done outside of the courses in the LMS, benchmarked this with 8 companies recently
9:04:54 pm LearnNuggets: @matt_murray @mrch0mp3rs Not sure ANY LMS can do that. #lrnchat
9:04:54 pm cammybean: RT @Quinnovator: @peterflom ah, but research shows that innovation is *not* individual #lrnchat
9:04:58 pm tmiket: @LearnNuggets Not even close..totally agree re:LMS #lrnchat
9:05:06 pm kellygarber: RT @gminks: oh and Schoolhouse rocks tapes http://voicethread.com/#home #lrnchat
9:20:10 pm busynessgirl: More importantly, I give a mid-project progress report to push the projects in the direction they need to go. I use Jing for that. #lrnchat
9:20:11 pm Priaak: Q2 difference in culture especially if across geographies , different learning capabilities can be a barrier… #lrnchat
9:20:13 pm hjarche: If the CIA can use social media for learning, why can’t your org? #lrnchat
9:20:26 pm gminks: one of my profs has a program that tracks interactions on discussion boards… #lrnchat
9:20:26 pm mrch0mp3rs: #lrnchat there are technical security risks in going social — potential for relaxed monitoring of online behavior, phishing, etc. in ur org
9:20:27 pm peterflom: #lrnchat Q2 also, some learning disabilities make social learning harder
9:20:28 pm kelly_smith01: I see published “stats” that say CIO & other C folks reject social tools – however maybe a sucurity issue – still reluctant though #lrnchat
9:20:32 pm Jeffhurt: @TerrenceWing Clarify how tech can isolate the learner #lrnchat
9:20:41 pm TerrenceWing: @Quinnovator but then their personality drives their involvement. Recognition is an inhibitor even if virtual. #lrnchat
9:20:48 pm matt_murray: @moehlert hey there! Thanks for stopping by etrainertalk.com the other day. #lrnchat
9:20:48 pm BradStokes: @roninchef can be directionless as well if not organised well #lrnchat
9:20:51 pm minutebio: RT @Priaak: Q2 difference in culture especially if across geographies , different learning capabilities can be a barrier… #lrnchat
9:20:56 pm oxala75: @mrch0mp3rs oh, absolutely. social learning invites subversion (best of it makes use of it, imho). #lrnchat
9:20:57 pm spotlearning: RT @hjarche: Don’t assess social lrng..enable practitioners to produce results, they will handle the social aspect if you let them #lrnchat
9:21:00 pm Quinnovator: RT @hjarche: Don’t assess social learning, enable practitioners to produce results, they will handle social aspect if you let them #lrnchat
9:21:01 pm tmiket: RT @hjarche: If the CIA can use social media for learning, why can’t your org? #lrnchat
9:21:01 pm wlonline: @nancyrubin Have to design the learning around technologies to promote learning and use tools for analysis and improve design #lrnchat
9:21:06 pm RobRobertson: Q2 not having best/breed social tools (or a least good ones) can have a neg impact on the learner exp Many orgs have limited tools #lrnchat
9:21:27 pm minutebio: RT @BradStokes: @roninchef can be directionless as well if not organised well Strong facilitator needed #lrnchat
9:21:27 pm busynessgirl: Weighing benefits and risks of using social media for formal learning: http://bit.ly/Syohc (first link) #lrnchat
9:21:29 pm jmarrapodi: @JeffHurt. Tx Jeff. That’s why I’m only checking replies & not watching whole #lrnchat feed. :) if only I could fig out voice activated twts
9:21:29 pm Quinnovator: @hjarche but sometimes social is one of your outcomes, and don’t assume social learning skills, assess and develop! #lrnchat
9:21:33 pm wlonline: @nancyrubin see eg given by @gminks #lrnchat
9:21:36 pm butwait: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are the downsides of focusing on learning socially amid formal learning programs? #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:21:37 pm moehlert: @hjarche I’m familiar with their efforts and I think they might say they use it for fulfilling their “need to share” aegis #lrnchat
9:21:39 pm oxala75: @hjarche that’s what I say. #lrnchat
9:21:41 pm chambo_online: RT @tmiket: RT @hjarche: If the CIA can use social media for learning, why cant your org? #lrnchat
9:21:42 pm TerrenceWing: @Jeffhurt If they are not familar or comfortable with the tech. They may feel isolated. #lrnchat
9:21:53 pm dwilkinsnh: RT @hjarche: Don’t assess social learning, enable practitioners to produce results, they will handle social aspect if you let them #lrnchat
9:21:55 pm kelly_smith01: that is a “security” issue for social tools – #lrnchat
9:22:02 pm tmiket: @RobRobertson Poor tools = more friction = less use/less learning #lrnchat
9:22:02 pm nancyrubin: STOLEN principle for wikis – pedagogy – http://stolenprinciple.pbworks.com/ #lrnchat
9:22:03 pm BradStokes: @RobRobertson Or they restrict access to the ones they use #lrnchat
9:22:05 pm bschlenker: Its sad when workers must leave work in order to get onto a network that will allow them to get work/learning done. #lrnchat
9:22:07 pm gminks: RT @mrch0mp3rs: #lrnchat there are tech security risks in going social for relaxed monitoring of online behavior, phishing, etc #lrnchat
9:22:09 pm mrch0mp3rs: @tmiket Because they’re the CIA, and above the law (like Seagal) #lrnchat
9:22:17 pm jadekaz: Q2 Multitasking :) #lrnchat
9:22:18 pm moehlert: @hjarche But good point. I use it all the time to talk about the 3 Pillars of Social Media – Fear, Control and Trust #lrnchat
9:22:19 pm wlonline: there are lots of tools in CSCL Computer Supported Collaborative learning #lrnchat
9:22:47 pm TerrenceWing: @kelly_smith01 Time to take the social learning offsite or use personal comps #lrnchat
9:22:50 pm hjarche: @moehlert yah, and there are orgs who don’t have a need to share? #lrnchat
9:22:52 pm tmiket: @bschlenker Amen brother!!! #lrnchat
9:22:54 pm kellygarber: Q2 – if socially I’ve “passed” does that mean I’ve learned? What happens when I have to perform the task alone? #lrnchat
9:22:55 pm mrch0mp3rs: @moehlert I thought that was the weapons of the Spanish Inquisition #lrnchat
9:23:00 pm tmiket: RT @bschlenker: Its sad when workers must leave work in order to get onto a network that will allow them to get work/learning done. #lrnchat
9:23:15 pm jwillensky: Q2 Cliques, varying levels of comfort, institutional resistance, alpha wolves #lrnchat
9:23:16 pm matt_murray: @nancyrubin that’s great thanks! #lrnchat
9:23:20 pm cammybean: @dwilkinsnh @hjarche the source of the 80/20 split… #lrnchat 1/2
9:23:30 pm TerrenceWing: RT @kellygarber: Q2 – if socially Ive “passed” does that mean Ive learned? What happens when I have to perform the task alone? #lrnchat
9:23:39 pm tmiket: @hjarche or they have the need but not the mind or will to do so? #lrnchat
9:23:45 pm hjarche: 3 principles of Training: fear, sarcasm & ridicule (old joke from the Army) #lrnchat
9:23:47 pm Jeffhurt: @peterflom Online learning like this gives you the ability to break & restore communication linearity. #lrnchat
9:23:47 pm mrch0mp3rs: @oxala75 Subversion is my business and brother business is a-boomin’ #lrnchat
9:24:02 pm bschlenker: #lrnchat is a great way to get all you cool people into my eLearning list ;-) #lrnchat
9:24:12 pm moehlert: @hjarche :-) That’s an actual Directive that came down from the last Dir. of Natl Intelligence – from need to know to need 2 share #lrnchat
9:24:12 pm BradStokes: @jwillensky “alpha wolves” I like #lrnchat
9:24:14 pm dwilkinsnh: Q2) Dominant “experts” might subvert real expertise of formal instructor or content #lrnchat
9:24:16 pm wlonline: @joe_deegan Yes, hv success with few B , not many #lrnchat
9:24:21 pm RobRobertson: @BradStokes Very true! #lrnchat
9:24:23 pm Quinnovator: @TerrenceWing Recognition an inhibitor? One of the reliable results as a motivator is the research outcome, I think. ? #lrnchat
9:24:26 pm chambo_online: Q2: Socme – there can be too much of a good thing. #lrnchat
9:24:27 pm Jeffhurt: @peterflom Learners can scroll back from the moment statements was posted, while interacting presently in the here-and-now #lrnchat
9:24:29 pm gminks: @TerrenceWing what happens if you are in an industry like mine that constantly changes, you need social contacts even when alone #lrnchat
9:24:32 pm kelly_smith01: No one expect the Spanish Inquistion or Twitter and IM tools for training or regular business tools #lrnchat
9:24:45 pm moehlert: @mrch0mp3rs The good ones are timeless my friend. #lrnchat
9:24:46 pm busynessgirl: Wow! I’ve out-exercised the CD (Depeche Mode) … yes, CD (in basement) and do not want to tax wireless satellite Internet. #lrnchat
9:24:46 pm RobRobertson: @tmiket Agreed Agreed! #lrnchat
9:24:47 pm gminks: me too!! RT @BradStokes: @jwillensky “alpha wolves” I like #lrnchat
9:24:48 pm cammybean: @dwilkinsnh @hjarche 2002 study at Sara Lee by Atos KPMG-80% of learning occurred spontaneously dring wrk http://bit.ly/CXoxN #lrnchat 2/2
9:24:49 pm tmiket: RT @bschlenker: #lrnchat is a great way to get all you cool people into my eLearning list ;-) #lrnchat
9:25:01 pm tmiket: RT @dwilkinsnh: Q2) Dominant “experts” might subvert real expertise of formal instructor or content #lrnchat
9:25:03 pm mrch0mp3rs: @matt_murray leveraging content to perform at time of need = pull. LMS formats for content are difficult for media translation #lrnchat
9:25:05 pm kelly_smith01: RT @dwilkinsnh: Q2) Dominant “experts” might subvert real expertise of formal instructor or content #lrnchat
9:25:12 pm spotlearning: @bschlenker: Its sad when workers must leave work…to get…work/learning done. #lrnchat or bring pers. laptop to enable same…Arrgh.
9:25:12 pm jadekaz: Q2 That “social” is a current trend and trends are either disdained or used frivously #lrnchat
9:25:28 pm tmiket: Dang..you guys are on top of it tonight..yet again. #lrnchat
9:25:28 pm RobRobertson: RT @bschlenker: Its sad when workers must leave work in order to get onto a network that will allow them to get work/learning done. #lrnchat
9:25:32 pm gminks: Dr. Jeong’s (#fsu) Discussion Analysis Tool: http://mailer.fsu.edu/~ajeong/DAT/ #lrnchat
9:25:41 pm minutebio: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @dwilkinsnh: Q2) Dominant “experts” might subvert real expertise of formal instructor or content #lrnchat
9:25:54 pm bschlenker: @tmiket Dude, I love your twitter background design. Nice! #lrnchat
9:25:54 pm Quinnovator: @kellygarber pull together your network, or a ‘team’? Seriously, assessment can be #lrnchat
9:25:59 pm mrch0mp3rs: @cammybean Matches pretty closely with what @ArtPandscience tweeted earlier, too #lrnchat
9:26:00 pm oxala75: @dwilkinsnh true. always ran this risk when i taught bartenders #lrnchat
9:26:05 pm matt_murray: @mrch0mp3rs ahh I see. That’s a tough one for sure. #lrnchat
9:26:37 pm roninchef: What about those that just don’t want to deal with the social aspect? Ppl in my org pull a face when I try to describe the benefits #lrnchat
9:26:38 pm busynessgirl: Two kinds of social learning … we all work together to accomplish something OR we work individually but learn from each other. #lrnchat
9:26:39 pm chambo_online: Enemy to me following #lrnchat – having The Office on TV in the same room…argh. #lrnchat
9:26:50 pm Quinnovator: @kellygarber pull together your network, or a ‘team’? Seriously, assessment can be blended too #lrnchat (keyboard’s been drinking, not me)
9:27:04 pm tmiket: @bschlenker Thanks. Did it in #PPT #lrnchat
9:27:16 pm randomdazzle: I think people have always had to leave work to learn and get advice. It’s just that they had to log miles instead of log on. #lrnchat
9:27:18 pm dwilkinsnh: @oxala75 You taught bartenders? You must have learned a whole lot socially… ; ) #lrnchat
9:27:26 pm TerrenceWing: @chambo_online DVR #lrnchat
9:27:27 pm mrch0mp3rs: @jadekaz That’s the mindset. Without a direct tie to the business benefits in a commercial org, it’s hot today; gone tomorrow #lrnchat
9:27:37 pm hjarche: @cammybean several other studies cited in Jay Cross book on informal learning show ~80/20 split #lrnchat
9:27:40 pm tmiket: @oxala75 Taught bartenders? Sounds like some good stories behind that? #lrnchat
9:27:41 pm moehlert: @roninchef What is their pain point? #lrnchat
9:27:47 pm chambo_online: RT @busynessgirl: Two kinds of social learning … we all work togthr to accmplsh sumthing OR work ind. but learn from each other. #lrnchat
9:28:11 pm PearlFlipper: Q2) That social learning isn’t just a tool. It’s the way we learn, and now there are tools that help us do that faster, broader #lrnchat
9:28:15 pm marciamarcia: A moment of silence (amid smiles) as @nancyrubin points us to http://bit.ly/1GfhIT junction. #lrnchat
9:28:17 pm chambo_online: @TerrenceWing That presupposes Verizon sent me my DVR…lol. #lrnchat
9:28:18 pm andrewoshea: Not fair! Would like glass of red but not able to get it at work! #lrnchat
9:28:21 pm oxala75: @roninchef i know that face. it can only be overcome with WIIFM in-action examples. #lrnchat
9:28:21 pm urbie: @chambo_online not really – it takes care of the noise, the tweets ur not interested in – you come by when your interest is aroused #lrnchat
9:28:21 pm mrch0mp3rs: RT @randomdazzle: I think people have always had to leave work to learn and get advice. they had to log miles instead of log on. #lrnchat
9:28:32 pm nancyrubin: Tie game (sorry World Series moment) #lrnchat
9:28:36 pm bschlenker: @matt_murray Interesting…Dealer.com? Would love to hear about your eLearning challenges. Do you like to give presentations? #lrnchat
9:28:46 pm oxala75: @tmiket because there are :) #lrnchat
9:28:47 pm ahravelo: @#lrnchat wish i could be there… follow tweetstream will have to do
9:28:56 pm busynessgirl: If you’ve read outliers, do you think that social learning is a problem for those who were raised with parents w/o social skills? #lrnchat
9:28:59 pm urbie: @chambo_online most of the online higher ed courses i’ve seen are like that – learn from each other #lrnchat
9:29:01 pm Priaak: @roninchef yes getting a business sponsor buy in is difficult #lrnchat
9:29:06 pm Jeffhurt: RT @randomdazzle: I think ppl have always had 2 leave work 2 learn. Its just that they had to log miles instead of log on. #lrnchat
9:29:12 pm nancyrubin: @marciamarcia I was watching these the other day and the Electric Company (I am dating myself)… #lrnchat
9:29:41 pm onEnterFrame: RT @bschlenker Its sad when workers must leave work in order to get onto a network that will allow them to get work/learning done. #lrnchat
9:29:47 pm TerrenceWing: @chambo_online RT @busynessgirl social learning, we all work togthr to accmplsh sumthing o work ind.but learn from each other. #lrnchat
9:30:01 pm tmiket: @ahravelo There is no “there” Tweetstream is it. #lrnchat
9:30:10 pm busynessgirl: @peterflom Well, if you show up at 5:30am for a tweet chat, you can help me avoid paying Palin! #lrnchat
9:30:15 pm roninchef: @moehlert Doing it. They see it as another thing to learn/do. Or it is a “So what” face. But it comes back to doing it. #lrnchat
9:30:19 pm bschlenker: @marciamarcia @nancyrubin I’m tearing up. LOVE conjunction junction. My band played an industrial/ska version in the day. #lrnchat
9:30:25 pm mrch0mp3rs: @roninchef Getting biz sponsor who actually commits vs. “saying” they’ll commit? very tough (imho) #lrnchat
9:30:42 pm chambo_online: @onEnterFrame Especially sad when those workers are K12 educators. #lrnchat
9:30:47 pm lrnchat: Q3) How do you create effective groups? #lrnchat
9:30:48 pm matt_murray: @bschlenker I love to present. What did you have in mind? #lrnchat
9:30:49 pm kellygarber: @Quinnovator yes, we can blend the learning and assessment – some tasks are critical to measure solo performance. right? #lrnchat
9:31:08 pm nancyrubin: Wikis for formal group work provide insight into how the group functioned and there are rich assessment opps in the history of pgs #lrnchat
9:31:09 pm dktoney: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are the downsides of focusing on learning socially amid formal learning programs? #lrnchat
9:31:14 pm gminks: and commits RESOURCES RT @mrch0mp3rs: @roninchef Getting biz sponsor who actually commits vs. “saying” theyll commit? very tough #lrnchat
9:31:16 pm hjarche: Peter Senge: indiv learning in orgs is irrelevant: value is created by teams & networks but only spreads through social networks #lrnchat
9:31:19 pm spotlearning: @busynessgirl I don’t think so. Sometimes soc. skills blossom in those even more than others…rebellion…or revolution? #lrnchat
9:31:20 pm PearlFlipper: Q2) Giving them ‘examples’ that make sense to them. #lrnchat
9:31:25 pm busynessgirl: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you create effective groups? // YAY!!! Really curious about this one. #lrnchat
9:31:30 pm dktoney: Q2) Difficult to summarize points from social interactions. #lrnchat
9:31:32 pm joe_deegan: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you create effective groups? #lrnchat
9:31:34 pm Jeffhurt: @lrnchat Clarify what you mean by effective groups #lrnchat
9:31:39 pm tmiket: Q3 Is it more effective to create the groups or to let the groups create themselves? #lrnchat
9:31:40 pm nancyrubin: @lrnchat Most effective groups I have seen usually have roles to perform each week. #lrnchat
9:31:43 pm peterflom: #lrnchat Q3 let them form on their own
9:31:47 pm jadekaz: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you create effective groups? #lrnchat
9:31:54 pm Quinnovator: @kellygarber agreed, I like to triangulate with several different forms of info #lrnchat
9:31:59 pm moehlert: @onEnterFrame I rail against our IT and firewall all the time but the truth is, as a DOD site we get attacked literally 3k per day #lrnchat
9:32:01 pm chambo_online: Q3 – my teaching partner’s PhD research…we group by social satisfaction…Self-identified A’s with A’s and Type B’s with B’s #lrnchat
9:32:08 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you create effective groups? #lrnchat
9:32:09 pm tmiket: #lrnchat created itselft with some key help of course (you know who you are.)
9:32:12 pm PearlFlipper: Q3) the best groups are mixed, like place cards at a dinner gathering, to ensure robust perspectives and interesting conversations #lrnchat
9:32:15 pm TerrenceWing: Do social problems translate into social learning too? #lrnchat
9:32:19 pm wlonline: Q3 Need some ground “rules” #lrnchat
9:32:20 pm butwait: @roninchef re: ppl pulling faces… I’ve been working the old Show & Tell angle. Try 2 find sites that’ll wow ‘em, THEN explain how #lrnchat
9:32:22 pm tmiket: RT @jadekaz: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you create effective groups? #lrnchat
9:32:25 pm busynessgirl: Effective groups = not dysfunctional groups #lrnchat
9:32:43 pm moehlert: @hjarche Gotta love Senge and he prob wrote that in what ‘90? #lrnchat
9:32:43 pm kelly_smith01: RT @hjarche: Peter Senge: indiv learning in orgs is irrelevant: value is created by teams/networks butspreads through social ntwrks #lrnchat
9:32:49 pm roninchef: @oxala75 My boss sees the value of me knowing about social learning and online collaboration. The time isn’t right yet for them. #lrnchat
9:32:50 pm dwilkinsnh: Q3) Effective groups start w/ trust, self-efficacy, and shared interests – emphasis on *start*… #lrnchat
9:32:58 pm jadekaz: @peterflom Unless I know ppl, forming my own group is always ackward for me. #lrnchat
9:33:02 pm urbie: @tmiket create themselves? most effective when they can migrate as need/capability allows #lrnchat
9:33:06 pm nancyrubin: Lots of interest in new Map2.0 tools so online students can “find”others to connect with locally. #lrnchat
9:33:13 pm gminks: sorry to disagree but THIS is the best SHR video: http://bit.ly/OEgbZ #lrnchat
9:33:15 pm minutebio: To make groups effective – Tie to business goals, front line involved in design, topics/focus must be relevant to all members. #lrnchat
9:33:17 pm mrch0mp3rs: #lrnchat I think my word for the week is: give groups a model to understand the context of their group work, engage them w/ leadership.
9:33:19 pm Quinnovator: Q3: my experience: set clear expectations, provide guidance, balance diversity or let choose but let know the value of diversity #lrnchat
9:33:22 pm zaana: RT @hjarche Senge: indiv learning in orgs is irrelevant: value is creatd by teams & networks but only spreads through soc networks #lrnchat
9:33:24 pm moehlert: @roninchef The other powerful piece is be ready to tell them what they’re gonna STOP doing – don’t make it additive #lrnchat
9:33:24 pm PearlFlipper: Q3) in some groups, having the learners be a close match in terms of competencies or social groups to help them feel ‘part of’ #lrnchat
9:33:25 pm chambo_online: Effective groups=educational goal gets met utilizing all group talent. #lrnchat
9:33:30 pm moehlert: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you create effective groups? #lrnchat
9:33:30 pm TerrenceWing: @chambo_online Hulu, NBC.com or youtube, you’re still okay. #lrnchat
9:33:31 pm marciamarcia: Twitter Lists now available for everyone. Adding as fast as I can from #lrnchat to http://sn.im/lrnchat-list. Pls follow.
9:33:35 pm hjarche: @moehlert but Senge said it last week (again) based on more research & observation #lrnchat
9:33:39 pm Quinnovator: let know what is expected about how they work together #lrnchat
9:33:41 pm oxala75: @TerrenceWing yes, in my experience. still need to account for motives, angles and egos. #lrnchat
9:33:42 pm busynessgirl: @hjarche But if there are no individuals learning, then there are no ideas to spread? #lrnchat
9:33:46 pm butwait: Q3) We had faculty self-org based on their own sense of where they belong. Similar to pool lanes w/ “slow, medium, & fast” labels. #lrnchat
9:33:47 pm wlonline: RT @marciamarcia: Twitter Lists now available for everyone. Adding as fast as I can from #lrnchat to http://sn.im/lrnchat-list. Pls follow.
9:33:48 pm spotlearning: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you create effective groups? #lrnchat >> Diversity; enable communication/collaboration; challenge; tension; need.
9:33:54 pm Quinnovator: provide guidance about how to work together well, how to communicate #lrnchat
9:33:58 pm littleasklab: Seen some organizational shifts from focus on individual productivity to networked productivity – big social component #lrnchat
9:34:05 pm ndcollier: RT @marciamarcia: Twitter Lists now available for everyone. Adding as fast as I can from #lrnchat to http://sn.im/lrnchat-list. Pls follow.
9:34:06 pm oxala75: RT @wlonline Q3 Need some ground “rules” #lrnchat
9:34:16 pm randomdazzle: Q3 Create versus laissez faire. Is there no other choice? How about guiding and mentoring? #lrnchat
9:34:17 pm BradStokes: Two words direction/structure #lrnchat
9:34:17 pm chambo_online: @TerrenceWing God bless Hulu…LOVE it. #lrnchat
9:34:22 pm tmiket: @urbie isn’t that a form of re-creating? #lrnchat
9:34:24 pm busynessgirl: RT @Quinnovator: set clear expectations, provide guidance, balance diversity or let choose but let know the value of diversity #lrnchat
9:34:28 pm gminks: We did a project about this in school – on collaborative computer supported learning (CSCL): http://cscl.ginaminks.com/ #lrnchat
9:34:29 pm moehlert: @hjarche Well there you go. :-) #lrnchat
9:34:31 pm RobRobertson: Q3 I find having a “mole” to challenge the topic/presenter can help create a strong open discussion/group sorta “good/bad cop” #lrnchat
9:34:39 pm PearlFlipper: Q3) Depends. What do we want them to learn? Executive leadership? Mix it up. But How to breastfeed may require someone with exper. #lrnchat
9:34:54 pm mrch0mp3rs: #lrnchat Okay… How did the guilds do it? They learned… in groups… to perform…
9:34:55 pm hjarche: @busynessgirl individuals may learn, but for the org, it doesn’t matter, unless they act upon it and then it becomes social #lrnchat
9:34:57 pm peterflom: well, bedtime for me. Time to curl up and do some solitary reading and learning #lrnchat
9:34:59 pm busynessgirl: Important to explain WHY using a group for the activity. I think @Quinnovator is dead right on this. Forgot about that. #lrnchat
9:34:59 pm moehlert: . RT @marciamarcia: Twitter Lists now available 4 everyone. Adding as fast as I can from #lrnchat to http://sn.im/lrnchat-list. Pls follow.
9:35:03 pm Priaak: Q3) The strategy used to create an effective group will vary based on required learning outcome… #lrnchat
9:35:05 pm eduinnovation: RT @hjarche Senge: indiv learning in orgs is irrelevant: value is creatd by teams + networks but only spreads through soc networks #lrnchat
9:35:09 pm PearlFlipper: Q3) Form the group around a shared goal, solution or idea. #lrnchat
9:35:10 pm kelly_smith01: Teams should have case studies (4 example) to learn socially & build a team #lrnchat
9:35:15 pm urbie: @spotlearning ideally, yes.. hopefully the interface technology is up to the task #lrnchat
9:35:23 pm minutebio: Members are facilitators…someone who applies the skills but also knows how to facilitate/teach #lrnchat
9:35:36 pm tmiket: @RobRobertson Devious…I like it. #lrnchat
9:35:44 pm lisagualtieri: Should @eLearnMag publish a weekly column with the highlights of #lrnchat?
9:35:48 pm chambo_online: Also depends on the medium (blended may be able to group differently than fully online) #lrnchat
9:35:54 pm gminks: @marciamarcia that snipeurl is private or deleted… #lrnchat
9:36:06 pm jadekaz: @wlonline your lists link isn’t working for me #lrnchat
9:36:09 pm oxala75: @RobRobertson ha! i like that. #lrnchat
9:36:13 pm wlonline: RT @gminks: We did a project about this in school – on collaborative computer supported learning (CSCL): http://cscl.ginaminks.com/ #lrnchat
9:36:24 pm urbie: @tmiket what’s wrong with that? sometimes training wastes resources – do you want logistics to get in the way of the experience? #lrnchat
9:36:27 pm busynessgirl: Hypothetical: 24 millennial students, want to foster learning in groups (work to be done outside of class). Suggestions? #lrnchat
9:36:42 pm PearlFlipper: Q3) I think Gladwell called them ‘mavens’, good to sprinkle a few in to help create connections. #lrnchat
9:36:46 pm wlonline: RT @lisagualtieri: Should @eLearnMag publish a weekly column with the highlights of #lrnchat?
9:36:48 pm moehlert: RT @lisagualtieri: Should @eLearnMag publish a weekly column with the highlights of #lrnchat? Awesome!! Yes!!
9:36:54 pm jadekaz: I like that. Give projects and form around those.RT @kelly_smith01: Teams should have case studies to learn socially & build a team #lrnchat
9:37:03 pm tmiket: @lisagualtieri yes #lrnchat
9:37:08 pm hjarche: @lisagualtieri plus some added commentary & analysis (would be appreciated) #lrnchat
9:37:16 pm gminks: RT @mrch0mp3rs: #lrnchat Okay… How did the guilds do it? They learned… in groups… to perform… #lrnchat
9:37:18 pm Jeffhurt: Q3: Need groups that are collaborative & democratic, w/ community of varied voices. #lrnchat
9:37:19 pm wlonline: @busynessgirl High school students? #lrnchat
9:37:20 pm busynessgirl: RT @wlonline: RT @lisagualtieri: Should @eLearnMag publish a weekly column with the highlights of #lrnchat? AMEN! Awesome! #lrnchat
9:37:23 pm jwillensky: Q3 If no obvious division, give them a forum to discuss what groups are needed, desirable ground rules, etc. #lrnchat
9:37:24 pm PearlFlipper: Sure why not? RT @wlonline: RT @lisagualtieri: Should @eLearnMag publish a weekly column with the highlights of #lrnchat? #lrnchat
9:37:37 pm kellygarber: Q3 good mix of knowledge so that the “experts” can elevate their skills by teaching instead of being detached and bored. #lrnchat
9:37:38 pm tmiket: @urbie nothing wrong. I’m agreeing w/ you #lrnchat
9:37:50 pm PearlFlipper: RT @urbie: @tmiket create themselves? most effective when they can migrate as need/capability allows #lrnchat
9:37:57 pm minutebio: RT @jwillensky: Q3 If no obvious division, give them a forum to discuss what groups are needed, desirable ground rules, etc. #lrnchat
9:37:57 pm dwilkinsnh: Q3) Not sure there’s such a thing as self created group. #lrnchat is run by experts & participants are all “high potentials” ; ) #lrnchat
9:38:05 pm Priaak: RT @Jeffhurt Q3: Need groups that are collaborative & democratic, w/ community of varied voices. #lrnchat
9:38:06 pm chambo_online: Self forming groups in fully online class lasting 6-8 weeks…almost don’t get formed in time to be effective. #lrnchat
9:38:08 pm busynessgirl: @wlonline JUST out of high school (Community College) … I’ve had two group projects go so-so … they cant’ communicate. ??? #lrnchat
9:38:14 pm wlonline: @jadekaz Ok… I started last night to build it and haven’t finished it, sorry #lrnchat
9:38:34 pm PearlFlipper: RT @nancyrubin: @lrnchat Most effective groups I have seen usually have roles to perform each week. <–She’s right. #lrnchat
9:38:42 pm oxala75: @lisagualtieri easy copy content, pre-chewed! :) #lrnchat
9:38:43 pm wlonline: RT @rjacquez: If you want to explore Social Language Learning, check out Livemocha.com, it’s very well done: http://bit.ly/1kVRM2 #lrnchat
9:39:01 pm busynessgirl: And that’s 60 minutes of exercise + #lrnchat
9:39:04 pm matt_murray: @bschlenker Are you in the automotive internet marketing industry? #lrnchat
9:39:07 pm TerrenceWing: @RobRobertson Trust Trust Trust. I can no longer trust training if there is a mole somewhere. #lrnchat
9:39:09 pm Quinnovator: @lisagualtieri I refuse to answer on the grounds someone might construe that as volunteering, and it’s NOT #lrnchat
9:39:12 pm eduinnovation: I call it Wisdom Stewardship surrounding, broadening, lrning, capturing, sharing best ideas + solutions http://twurl.nl/p33qmk #lrnchat
9:39:14 pm spotlearning: RT @dwilkinsnh: Q3)Not sure there’s such thing as self created group. #lrnchat is run by experts & parts are"high potentials" ; ) #lrnchat
9:39:16 pm moehlert: @Jeffhurt Collaborative sure, varied voices – OK – but democratic? Sure, as long as someone is gonna pull the trigger on something #lrnchat
9:39:27 pm dougsymington: RT @hjarche: If the CIA can use social media for learning, why can’t your org? #lrnchat
9:39:39 pm gminks: @busynessgirl you have to set ground rules to enforce communication. one prof I have requires us to fill out weekly surveys #lrnchat
9:39:40 pm HRMargo: RT @JeffHurt The more important a call or action is to our soul’s evolution, the more resistance we will feel toward pursuing it. #lrnchat
9:39:40 pm roninchef: @moehlert I need someone else to sell it and I’ll help them. I’m the guy in the Jedi costume telling you how awesome Star Wars is. #lrnchat
9:39:47 pm urbie: @dwilkinsnh in my kid’s online high school sometimes it’s learners who get it that create the breakout room – why inhibit that? #lrnchat
9:39:55 pm nancyrubin: Group discussion roles – http://bit.ly/4Fk4b1 #lrnchat
9:39:59 pm Quinnovator: @dwilkinsnh high potential for *what* is the question. Subversion, mayhem, jail time? #lrnchat
9:40:10 pm mrch0mp3rs: @busynessgirl In some ways, I kinda think YOU need to facilitate each group until they learn the ropes #lrnchat
9:40:15 pm NahumG: RT @marciamarcia: Twitter Lists now available for everyone. Adding as fast as I can from #lrnchat to http://sn.im/lrnchat-list. Pls follow.
9:40:16 pm PearlFlipper: Thanks #lrnchat for this topic. Frustrated explaining that Social Learning isn’t just about the technology . . . enjoy the outlet. #lrnchat
9:40:27 pm moehlert: @Jeffhurt Unless of course, we’re talking about "Communities" vice groups – I was thinking task-oriented. #lrnchat
9:40:31 pm wlonline: @busynessgirl Can we chat further after #lrnchat? May be later. Let’s use google wave. Might have few suggestions? Others interested?
9:40:39 pm mrch0mp3rs: @roninchef You need Black Swan Society, my friend. #lrnchat
9:40:43 pm dwilkinsnh: @Quinnovator All of the above. And also drunkeness… ; ) #lrnchat
9:40:51 pm tmiket: @Quinnovator You took the words right out of my mouth #lrnchat
9:40:59 pm RobRobertson: @TerrenceWing mole may not be the right term but the point is to demonstrate it is OK to disagree with the presenter and engage #lrnchat
9:41:04 pm jadekaz: Time for the entire cycle: storming, forming, norming….finally, performing #lrnchat
9:41:10 pm DeltaKnowledge: @zaana Prob with Senge is that science showed this social learning is actually an individual cognitive process #lrnchat
9:41:18 pm Jeffhurt: @moehlert Not democratic? Dictactorship then? Allow them to self-police & have ground rules established. #lrnchat
9:41:21 pm busynessgirl: @mrch0mp3rs You might be right, but if they won’t communicate … how to do it is tricky. #lrnchat
9:41:35 pm kellygarber: RT @nancyrubin: Group discussion roles – http://bit.ly/4Fk4b1 Well Said #lrnchat
9:45:10 pm mrch0mp3rs: @oxala75 Well, it keeps crashing on me. The crashing distracts me. I’ve only started 20 waves so far :) #lrnchat
9:45:11 pm busynessgirl: RT @moehlert: RT @mrch0mp3rs: @roninchef Obviously, we need a Black Swan Wave :) #lrnchat Hells Yes #lrnchat
9:45:12 pm kelly_smith01: RT @TerrenceWing: Better quest, how do you encourage effective groups to form? Instead of creating groupsPeople naturally group #lrnchat
9:45:24 pm spotlearning: @reward75 I like your “mantra”. You found the right group. #lrnchat
9:45:26 pm wlonline: @cammybean Do say hi :-) #lrnchat
9:45:32 pm moehlert: @mrch0mp3rs Right. How about we look at where groups have formed & been successful and see what we can emulate? #lrnchat
9:45:33 pm urbie: maybe Paine had the right idea: http://bit.ly/15feMc – let the learners sort it out for themselves – role of facilitator: rehash #lrnchat
9:45:37 pm dwilkinsnh: @tmiket I think it depends. Sometimes there is more authenticity in “informal” leaders, but sometimes you want experiences leaders #lrnchat
9:45:42 pm busynessgirl: I’m actually in the midst of reading Black Swan. Anyone else read it (or reading it)? #lrnchat
9:45:43 pm kellygarber: RT @reward75: To get people to communicate they have to have something in common. Either they find it or you provide it. #lrnchat
9:45:55 pm mrch0mp3rs: @busynessgirl Is it A way? Yes. Is it a GOOD way? Probably not, but need more context #lrnchat
9:45:56 pm Quinnovator: @urbie now you made me go look up Tuckman’s model. Seems to me everywhere. #lrnchat
9:45:57 pm dwilkinsnh: @eduinnovation Thanks. Will definitely check it out. #lrnchat
9:45:59 pm eduinnovation: @DeltaKnowledge In other words, Social Learning is context, but learning is indiv cognitive process? #lrnchat
9:46:16 pm roninchef: @mrch0mp3rs By all means, make it so. #lrnchat
9:46:18 pm PearlFlipper: Who didn’t learn by making mistakes? Darn I just read somewhere that the mistakes actually help us learn. Where did I read that? #lrnchat
9:46:18 pm mrch0mp3rs: @busynessgirl I thought you were kidding hte other day. Link? #lrnchat
9:46:34 pm Quinnovator: @nancyrubin btw, thanks for pointer on voicethread, have tab open to check out #lrnchat
9:46:34 pm busynessgirl: @wlonline 7.75 hours from now. #lrnchat
9:46:43 pm tmiket: @dwilkinsnh Yes, experience doesn’t necessarly = formal though does it? #lrnchat
9:47:01 pm mrch0mp3rs: True RT @dwilkinsnh: @tmiket Sometimes there is more authenticity in “informal” leaders, but sometimes you want experiences leaders #lrnchat
9:47:03 pm chambo_online: @Quinnovator Voicethread (thumbs up) #lrnchat
9:47:24 pm tmiket: @PearlFlipper I just saw that too Scientific American? maybe? #lrnchat
9:47:35 pm Quinnovator: @cammybean and somehow they never get that you’d gladly trade and sleep! #lrnchat
9:47:36 pm PearlFlipper: RT @urbie: maybe Paine had the right idea: http://bit.ly/15feMc – let learners sort it out 4 themselves-role of facilitator: rehash #lrnchat
9:47:47 pm mrch0mp3rs: RT @eduinnovation: @DeltaKnowledge In other words, Social Learning is context, but learning is indiv cognitive process? #lrnchat
9:48:07 pm Quinnovator: @busynessgirl well, failure is part of learning, if done right #lrnchat
9:48:08 pm gminks: @busynessgirl as a current student I think thats very unfair to allow that to happen. #lrnchat
9:48:11 pm mrch0mp3rs: RT @moehlertHow about we look at where groups have formed & been successful and see what we can emulate? #lrnchat
9:48:18 pm eduinnovation: I wonder how Seth Godin would view this convo on groups. Maybe we are talking about Tribes? #lrnchat
9:48:25 pm gminks: Set rules so the real course objectives can be met, no one is there to learn to work in a group. I HATE that. #lrnchat
9:48:28 pm kellygarber: @PearlFlipper Maybe we just need to title the class “Trial and Error” and more people will be interested in signing up. #lrnchat
9:48:55 pm chambo_online: @mrch0mp3rs Social constructivism #lrnchat
9:49:05 pm jadekaz: @PearlFlipper I saw that article on mistakes helping learning, too. But I also read one that said we learn better from doing right. #lrnchat
9:49:10 pm urbie: @Quinnovator you’d need time to dilate. real-time happens too quickly #lrnchat
9:49:12 pm TerrenceWing: We’re a tribe withot a chief #lrnchat
9:49:14 pm Quinnovator: @chambo_online oh, was that you? Sorry. Blame it on the drinking… #lrnchat
9:49:20 pm nancyrubin: @eduinnovation I was just thinking that…http://bit.ly/14VqMv #lrnchat
9:49:26 pm spotlearning: @tmiket @PearlFlipper just had a student share his learn-by-mistakes premise in a social learning setting today #lrnchat
9:49:30 pm tmiket: @gminks Don’t we all have to work in groups in the real world? #lrnchat
9:49:35 pm PearlFlipper: RT @TerrenceWing: better question, how 2encourage effective groups 2form? Instead of creating eff. groups. People naturally group #lrnchat
9:49:47 pm reward75: Failure = Learning – Don’t we all wish more people learned from their mistakes #lrnchat
9:49:55 pm oxala75: @Quinnovator @busynessgirl group fail is good too, if done with proper review #lrnchat
9:49:59 pm urbie: moving to my mac – iPhone siezed trying to keep up #lrnchat
9:50:08 pm busynessgirl: @gminks I’ve called students, emailed them, talked to students before, during, and after class, but they won’t talk to each other. #lrnchat
9:50:28 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links welcome. What can we help you with? #lrnchat
9:50:29 pm PearlFlipper: RT @mrch0mp3rs: RT @moehlertHow about we look at where groups have formed & been successful and see what we can emulate? Like here. #lrnchat
9:50:30 pm chambo_online: #fail=learning what NOT to do… #lrnchat
9:50:38 pm urbie: @reward75 they do when given the freedom to screw up #lrnchat
9:50:39 pm randomdazzle: Musing about how one measures success of a group. #lrnchat
9:50:50 pm Quinnovator: @gminks actually businesses *beg* that students learn to work in a group, more than any particular curriculum! #lrnchat
9:50:55 pm littleasklab: @urbie been to any “open space” event like Mind Camp? Exemplifies self-select facilitation, content, etc. Vote value w/ your feet. #lrnchat
9:51:07 pm Quinnovator: @urbie ok, after-action reviews #lrnchat
9:51:09 pm wlonline: @gminks Do u think assessment of process not just the end result of group work ie report might help? #lrnchat
9:51:17 pm jadekaz: Found it! Learning from getting it right: http://bit.ly/37hufb #lrnchat
9:51:19 pm gminks: @tmiket I work in the real world. I’m in class w/ all sorts of ppl. I’m fine working in grp, not fine if prof doesn’t manage class #lrnchat
9:51:21 pm PearlFlipper: RT @urbie: @reward75 they do when given the freedom to screw up <– I was trying to think how to say that! #lrnchat
9:51:29 pm kellygarber: If it is social "trial and error" learning – taking a pretty good hit to confidence if setting them up to fail in front of peers. #lrnchat
9:51:32 pm mrch0mp3rs: @randomdazzle You can measure anything. Come on! What are the questions you'd most want answered? #lrnchat
9:51:34 pm tmiket: @chambo_online Great thomas edison quote on failure..I've learned many ways that it doesn't work. #lrnchat
9:51:42 pm TerrenceWing: Failure + coaching = learning RT @reward75: Failure = Learning – Don't we all wish more people learned from their mistakes #lrnchat
9:51:50 pm busynessgirl: @mrch0mp3rs Here's the link: http://tinyurl.com/yknjomn #lrnchat
9:51:55 pm spotlearning: RT @urbie: moving to my mac – iPhone siezed trying to keep up #lrnchat iPhone #FAIL Wonder if there's an app for it to learn from that ;-)
9:51:55 pm Quinnovator: Amen. And others! RT @reward75: Failure = Learning – Don't we all wish more people learned from their mistakes #lrnchat
9:51:58 pm gminks: Clarifying my point: if you are going to have group work make sure that the processes for group work are defined. #lrnchat
9:52:07 pm urbie: @littleasklab i'm in higher-ed – every day #lrnchat
9:52:09 pm Quinnovator: RT @chambo_online: #fail=learning what NOT to do… #lrnchat
9:52:10 pm chambo_online: @busynessgirl Community college students? I teach them 2 – it is all forming community and trust to get them to speak 2 each other #lrnchat
9:52:14 pm Jeffhurt: @TerrenceWing we have several chiefs here that structure and facilitate the discussion. #lrnchat
9:52:22 pm kelly_smith01: RT randomdazzle Musing about how one measures success of a gr #lrnchat
9:52:34 pm nancyrubin: @wlonline Yes. Social tools make it easier to assess group process along with final product + peer evaluations of group members. #lrnchat
9:52:35 pm busynessgirl: @gminks So, do you think no group work outside of class? Just curious. #lrnchat
9:52:36 pm roninchef: @mrch0mp3rs Go watch a busy restaurant kitchen on a Friday night. Group is formed and groomed for success. #lrnchat
9:52:39 pm wlonline: @TerrenceWing There is some research on productive failure #lrnchat
9:52:39 pm gminks: @busynessgirl but did you make communication part of the grade? #lrnchat
9:52:46 pm Quinnovator: wow, that time already? Another great #lrnchat, all, THANKS!
9:52:53 pm PearlFlipper: @TerrenceWing Exactly! Failure+Coaching means the learning sticks too! #lrnchat
9:53:02 pm moehlert: @lrnchat Mark Oehlert-outside Washington DC. SoMe, Virtual Worlds, Innovation, Anthro, help me here: http://tinyurl.com/nlvud #lrnchat
9:53:11 pm ThomasStone: Hi all… sorry to have missed #lrnchat this evening… but watching the World Series takes priority!
9:53:13 pm TerrenceWing: Chief or Facilitator RT @Jeffhurt: @TerrenceWing we have several chiefs here that structure and facilitate the discussion. #lrnchat
9:53:16 pm wlonline: @busynessgirl @gminks We do have group work outside of class #lrnchat
9:53:16 pm busynessgirl: @wlonline How about 6am EDT in Google Wave to continue conversation. #lrnchat
9:53:37 pm gminks: @Quinnovator but that group work has to be designed, or it can fall to pieces. And the content of the class isnt learned. #lrnchat
9:53:42 pm dwilkinsnh: @tmiket Yeah absolutely. Experience != formal. Experience = experience, wherever it comes from… #lrnchat
9:53:44 pm Quinnovator: @kellygarber gotta make failing safe, first. Cf Brown & Palincsar's reciprocal teaching #lrnchat
9:53:45 pm busynessgirl: @gminks Yes, each group member had to report on their contribution to the group. And one got graded SOLELY on being the leader. #lrnchat
9:53:51 pm eduinnovation: @wlonline I think that is hugely important. I review and reflect on process w/ my Prof Learn Comm. all the time. #lrnchat
9:53:54 pm PearlFlipper: The group has to measure their own success (process), whereas we have to measure the success (outcome). Both need measurement. #lrnchat
9:54:10 pm wlonline: RT @busynessgirl: @wlonline How about 6am EDT in Google Wave to continue conversation. #lrnchat <– Yes, and any one else interested
9:54:10 pm chambo_online: Practice doesn't make perfect – it just makes muscle memory. Practicing #fails = … #lrnchat
9:54:13 pm gminks: not sure I follow … RT @busynessgirl: @gminks So, do you think no group work outside of class? Just curious. #lrnchat
9:54:15 pm tmiket: Mike Taylor Learning Developer in Columbus, OH trying to ignore the pile of Halloween candy in front of me #lrnchat
9:54:15 pm moehlert: RT @wlonline: @TerrenceWing There is some research on productive failure #lrnchat Its called Game Design ;-)
9:54:22 pm randomdazzle: Success for one? For all? For individual learning? For organizational learning? Point is – need to define success first. #lrnchat
9:54:31 pm busynessgirl: Wrap up: Teach college math in Michigan, figuring out how to hack higher ed, writing dissertation, exercising on bike! (still) #lrnchat
9:54:36 pm mrch0mp3rs: #lrnchat Aaron Silvers, Chicago http://bit.ly/KWcdZ If you're at #dl09, I hope you'll catch up with me, grab a bite/drink
9:54:52 pm kelly_smith01: RT @gminks: Clarifying my point: if you are going to have group work make sure that the processes for group work are defined. #lrnchat
9:54:54 pm wlonline: RT @moehlert: RT @wlonline: @TerrenceWing There is some research on productive failure #lrnchat Its called Game Design ;-) <- LOL
9:55:06 pm RobRobertson: @lrnchat are we going to an "in person" lrnchat in San Jose? Make sure folks are compliant with the consumption rules? :-) #lrnchat
9:55:11 pm busynessgirl: @gminks Hard to monitor how the groups are functioning when not under direct supervision. #lrnchat
9:55:15 pm chambo_online: RT @PearlFlipper: The group has 2 measure their own success (process); we have 2 measure the sccss (outcome). Both nd measurement. #lrnchat
9:55:15 pm Quinnovator: @gminks agreed, needs things I mentioned at beginning, expectations, guidance, …. #lrnchat
9:55:16 pm TerrenceWing: A must RT @Quinnovator: @kellygarber gotta make failing safe, first. Cf Brown & Palincsar's reciprocal teaching #lrnchat
9:55:18 pm Jeffhurt: Networked learning, committed to vision of social that stresses cooperation, interactivity, mutual benefit & social engagement. #lrnchat
9:55:20 pm ThomasStone: Also, I hope the work @dwilkinsnh and I did last Friday will bring more good folks to #lrnchat; we talked it up in Phoenix at @ASTD_VOS
9:55:22 pm tmiket: @dwilkinsnh Curious to hear about your take on that sometime experience=formal #lrnchat
9:55:26 pm matt_murray: Matt Murray, Training Manager Dealer.com. Assembling a team of workplace learning superstars. The blog: http://etrainertalk.com #lrnchat
9:55:41 pm busynessgirl: @mrch0mp3rs I hope you appreciate the snarkiness of the link I sent you. ;) #lrnchat
9:55:42 pm oxala75: craig wiggins. elearning jockey for the fed'ral gubmit. outside Washington DC. in favor of Google Waves for pre- & post-#lrnchat discussion
9:55:46 pm wlonline: Wrap up WL Wong, ICT, uni, Sydney; mom of 2 gamers #lrnchat
9:55:49 pm PearlFlipper: Week 10 of 16 teaching class, and then I'm eager to jump back into #lrnchat on time with a valid reason to sip more than knowledge. #lrnchat
9:55:57 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith ISD Performance nomad – North Texas #lrnchat
9:56:04 pm reward75: Regina Ward, Jack of all training things NYC – looking for ways to manage knowledge in a conservative organization #lrnchat
9:56:07 pm minutebio: It's been great, thanks. Jeff, e-Learning Designer, Baltimore, MD, USA #lrnchat
9:56:09 pm eduinnovation: Wrap up: Educ admin from Orange County, CA. Work a lot with Prof. Learning Communities. Love #lrnchat
9:56:11 pm jwillensky: Good night, #lrnchat . Jason Willensky, Phoenix. Sorry to miss #dl09 !
9:56:15 pm mrch0mp3rs: @busynessgirl Keep on riding! #lrnchat
9:56:19 pm jadekaz: Jade Kazmierski, Milwaukee, ID and elearning developer in corp. IPT student at BSU. #lrnchat
9:56:20 pm urbie: urbie delgado [http://www.ifthenmaybe.com], instructional designer, unlv – distance learning :) #lrnchat
9:56:23 pm chambo_online: Lisa Chamberlin – freelance online educator – procrastinator of correcting by using #lrnchat as an excuse. Chesapeake, VA #lrnchat
9:56:35 pm kellygarber: Qwrap) Kelly Garber, freelance ISD – when you have one project too many, I'm a tweet away. #lrnchat
9:56:44 pm Quinnovator: @chambo_online I like the line "amateurs practice 'til they get it right, pros practice 'til they can't get it wrong" #lrnchat
9:56:45 pm TerrenceWing: RT @wlonline @moehlert: @wlonline: @TerrenceWing There is some research on productive failure #lrnchat Its called Game Design ;-) <- LOL
9:56:46 pm Jeffhurt: Thanks for chat all – Director of Education & Events for national nonprofit #lrnchat
9:56:51 pm busynessgirl: Many calories burned tonight. Thanks all for being my personal trainers … you may have no idea just what's at stake! #lrnchat
9:57:02 pm wlonline: @gminks Ok we will ping you #lrnchat (and @busynessgirl)
9:57:14 pm jilliant: Jillian Torres in Vermont – who only lurked tonight. Thanks all! #lrnchat
9:57:23 pm spotlearning: QWrap: Joe Fournier, e-Learning, SoMe, Learning Strategy. Looking 4 next career move to help fix messy problems with engaging lrng. #lrnchat
9:57:27 pm PearlFlipper: Laura landlocked in the middle of the US, daytime VP Innovation. Nightime dog lover. Sometime grad. professor. Glad 2 tweetchat! #lrnchat
9:57:32 pm Quinnovator: @ThomasStone always room for more good folks; thanks for the promo! #lrnchat
9:57:32 pm gminks: @busynessgirl my profs do surveys. you submit one for each group member every week on how you think they worked w the group #lrnchat
9:57:35 pm dwilkinsnh: @tmiket Not sure I ever said experience = formal, sorry if I implied. I don't even like the term UGC because most U's are experts. #lrnchat
9:57:45 pm nancyrubin: Thanks all! – Nancy Rubin – Curriculum Specialist, Kaplan University – South Florida USA #lrnchat
9:57:58 pm Priaak: Thanks all. Will have to read the transcript. sivapriya from san Mateo, CA #lrnchat
9:57:59 pm Jeffhurt: @busynessgirl I'm impressed you can do that. HTs to you. #lrnchat
9:58:03 pm BradStokes: Brad Stokes http://www.mtraining.com.au Education Designer/Web everything person #lrnchat
9:58:08 pm roninchef: Mason Masteka Elearning Developer in Portland, Maine. Multi Media generalist. Good chatting with you all. #lrnchat
9:58:20 pm dwilkinsnh: David Wilkins, Executive Director of Product Marketing at Learn.com and high potential for mayhem and jail time… ; ) #lrnchat
9:58:23 pm RobRobertson: @lrnchat Qwrap: Working in the corp space in learning architecture…banging the social learning drum #lrnchat
9:58:36 pm BradStokes: Night all, or good day for those in Oz :) #lrnchat
9:58:37 pm jwillensky: Must say that @ThomasStone , @dwilkinsnh , and @odguru were great advocates for social media / learning at #vosastd #lrnchat
9:58:42 pm Quinnovator: as always, so grateful for all the fabulous contributions to #lrnchat
9:58:47 pm andrewoshea: Andrew O'Shea- Corporate Trainer – Melb Oz. Thanks all from a virgin. Not any more! #lrnchat
9:59:02 pm kasey428: Kay Wood, DC area,(was a lurker tonight, distracted by work) looking forward to transcript & signing off #lrnchat
9:59:03 pm PearlFlipper: @spotlearning thought you said engagement ring lol "Looking 4 next career move to help fix messy problems with engaging lrng." #lrnchat
9:59:14 pm lrnchat: Thank you for joining us on #lrnchat. Pls remember to submit Qs & theme ideas for upcoming chats at http://sn.im/lrnchat. See u next week!
9:59:23 pm marciamarcia: Marcia Conner, improving work & collaboration by helping people get back to the basics of learning from one another. #lrnchat
9:59:35 pm gminks: Gina – MA – FSU grad student, EMC technical course developer, blogger, & community manager http://bit.ly/C32rh #lrnchat
9:59:37 pm dwilkinsnh: @jwillensky Thanks Jason. I had a great time. Great crowd. #vosastd #lrnchat
9:59:48 pm urbie: great article on productive failure: Learning Inquiry, v3 n1 p1-19 Apr 2009 #lrnchat – not making mistakes? you're a savant or ? #lrnchat
10:00:55 pm Jeffhurt: Thanks Moderators @Quinnovator @marciamarcia @moehlert [& @koreenolbrish @janebozarth if U were lurking] #lrnchat
10:01:01 pm PearlFlipper: @reward75 Good luck to you. This group is a start! #lrnchat
10:01:13 pm kelly_smith01: Good night and have a pleasant tomorrow #lrnchat
10:01:38 pm TerrenceWing: Terrence Wing http://bit.ly/4gwtHW Loved tonight. Must where wrist brace next week. Tips on E-learning very welcome #lrnchat
10:01:54 pm spotlearning: @PearlFlipper My wife would be quite upset if I was looking for an engagement ring now…diamond 4 her – yes…engagement – no. #lrnchat
10:01:59 pm Quinnovator: thought: what works in #lrnchat is parallelism; multiple threads can work in simultaneity, cf old work on asynch vs classroom (pub in '83)
10:02:12 pm tmiket: @dwilkinsnh Funny story, my boss was impressed by your keynote and was excited to tell me about #lrnchat She said you were great.
10:02:28 pm tonya_simmons: bah! missed #lrnchat again tonight, well maybe next week
10:02:48 pm butwait: Wrap) Shelley, wiki wrangler | 250+ unusual coll. lists (e.g. ballet for non-majors? jazz studies?): http://bit.ly/collegewiki #lrnchat
10:03:32 pm PearlFlipper: @tonya_simmons Tonya, upload a photo and come back next week! #lrnchat
10:03:44 pm allonsdanser: RT @jwillensky: Must say that @ThomasStone , @dwilkinsnh , and @odguru were great advocates for social media / learning at #vosastd #lrnchat
10:04:39 pm Jeffhurt: @Quinnovator Yes, parallelism, polylogues, supersynchrony http://bit.ly/3FKoH3 #lrnchat
10:06:12 pm marciamarcia: @JeffHurt Thanks for joining us. Always grt to have a lively crowd for #lrnchat
10:06:21 pm mrch0mp3rs: @busynessgirl That’s like some ROFLs with syrup #lrnchat
10:06:43 pm zaana: RT @DeltaKnowledge ie: Splitting social and personal learning is problematic. It's all mixed together. #lrnchat
10:06:51 pm mrch0mp3rs: Link for a pre/post #lrnchat Wave is here: http://bit.ly/2hxuPK Plz let me know if you can’t get in

Transcript 22 October 2009

October 23, 2009 by Quinnovate

5:30:06 pm jsuzcampos: calling on transit … we’re going radio free with #lrnchat for the next 90 #lrnchat
5:30:47 pm bschlenker: Dear Followers: ITS LRNCHAT TIME & INTERNATIONAL CAPS LOCK DAY – Woohoo!!! #lrnchat
5:30:50 pm gminks: RT @jsuzcampos: calling on transit … were going radio free with #lrnchat for the next 90 #lrnchat
5:31:07 pm tgrevatt: @lrnchat sens are 3-0 down – bet #lrnchat will be more rewarding! Have a great one!
5:31:09 pm Quinnovator: are you ready for some #lrnchat? For the next 90 mins I’ll be tweeting up a storm. Hope to see you there!
5:31:21 pm jsuzcampos: @kelly_smith01 your new profile pic looks so egyptian! (and sort of sad?) #lrnchat
5:31:24 pm roninchef: @gminks Good luck I just watched Mrs. Roninchef crash out. Must be the weather. #lrnchat
5:31:36 pm lmardennh: wow – actually on line on time for #lrnchat. go easy on me, this is my first time…
5:32:11 pm gminks: @bschlenker oooh no NOT CAPS LOCK DAY!!! #lrnchat
5:32:24 pm lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1) Introduce yourself. (We do this again at the end). Location? Focus? Fave topics?
5:32:25 pm lrnchat: 2) [try to] stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 20 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
5:32:27 pm kelly_smith01: @jsuzcampos ITS A HOLIDAY THING FOR 2NITE ONLY #lrnchat
5:32:29 pm jrschifff: gonna try a lrnchat while i wait for dinner to get ready #lrnchat
5:32:40 pm jsuzcampos: @lmardennh welcome welcome! you’re gonna love it here! #lrnchat
5:32:41 pm stevenbrent: hello, all at #lrnchat. first time here. this will be my only non-substantive tweet, promise.
5:32:41 pm gminks: @roninchef I had the flu, feeling better after 4 long icky days #lrnchat
5:32:42 pm Quinnovator: will have to leave early (family duties call), but questions queued up and we’re ready to go! #lrnchat
5:32:47 pm jkunrein: @lmardennh Welcome! #lrnchat
5:33:16 pm Quinnovator: welcome to new and old #lrnchat participants!
5:33:20 pm wlonline: #lrnchat is on so pls excuse the coming tweets…
5:33:26 pm jsuzcampos: @stevenbrent welcome welcome steven! #lrnchat
5:33:28 pm lrnchat: 3) When writing, complete thoughts help followers outside chat learn from you. 4) on #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm, welcome tho.
5:33:48 pm JoanVinallCox: Time for #lrnchat – so my tweets with be fast & frequent & on workplace learning #lrnchat
5:34:37 pm gminks: Hi all! Gina, outside Boston, IS grad student @ #FSU, develop tech training for #EMC, blogging lots about women in it lately… #lrnchat
5:34:44 pm joe_deegan: Information architect from Sacramento CA. Instructional design/elearning dev/corporate training #lrnchat
5:34:48 pm lrnchat: 5) Periodically RT questions so others outside #lrnchat know what you’re talking about so they can chime in.
5:35:02 pm lmardennh: #lrnchat intro: name=Laurin, where=Kingston, NH, what=techwriter/trainer/website goddess for small accounting software firm in Nashua, NH
5:35:08 pm jwillensky: Pls. excuse seemingly random tweets. Doing weekly #lrnchat for 90 minutes
5:35:14 pm roninchef: @gminks Glad you’re feeling better. With a toddler in daycare we always have something kicking us in our immune systems. #lrnchat
5:35:20 pm everyselearning: Welcome @lmardennh Nice to see you here. Got your seat belt on? #lrnchat
5:35:20 pm jkunrein: Judy Unrein, e-learning designer and MEd candidate, keeping it up to date in Kansas City #lrnchat
5:35:20 pm gminks: @stevenbrent welcome, intros are never non-substantive! #lrnchat
5:35:28 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman eLearning Designer in banking -Baltimre MD USA #lrnchat
5:35:29 pm kasey428: Kay Wood, Client Engagement Mgr., ID, performance consultant, project mgr, learner, sometimes geek #lrnchat
5:35:37 pm lrnchat: 6) Remember to include the #lrnchat in all posts. http://tweetchat.com, http://tweetgrid.com & http://twubs.com/lrnchat work well.
5:35:38 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat Kae from Colorado – instructional designer, immersive environments, serious games, virtual worlds, ARGs & COTS
5:35:57 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, Walnut Creek, learning design agent provocateur, interested in new tech for better outcomes. Available to assist. #lrnchat
5:36:07 pm oxala75: craig wiggins – e-learning jockey for the gubmint. alexandria, va #lrnchat
5:36:14 pm jrschifff: Hi, Jana from Vancouver Canada. Learning technologist/instructional designer #lrnchat
5:36:18 pm mglazer: Hi, Michael from NYC @ PR firm Burson-Marsteller. Helping the company solve business issues with education. #lrnchat
5:36:18 pm gminks: @kasey428 hey girl! :) #lrnchat
5:36:27 pm lrnchat: 7) 10 min before end, tell us if you need anything from the other #lrnchat participants. Time to reintroduce yourself, too. Links welcome.
5:36:49 pm spotlearning: Q0. #lrnchat – JoeFournier – US – passionately distracted by convergence of soMe and e-Learning. Looking for ops to apply said passion.
5:36:52 pm usablelearning: Hi #lrnchat – Julie Dirksen – Minneapolis – lots of e-learning, instructional design, and a little too much project management (lately)
5:36:52 pm everyselearning: Myra Rhodes of www.everyones.com Dreamweaver CS4 trainer / online learning developer #lrnchat
5:37:01 pm stevenbrent: Technical trainer based in NYC, Adobe Flex enthusiast, esp. interested in collaboration and project-based learning. #lrnchat
5:37:02 pm jsuzcampos: Jeannette Campos from north of boston (now just over the line in New Hampshire) … ISD, grad prof, workplace learning #lrnchat
5:37:14 pm rpannoni: INTERNATIONAL CAP LOCKS DAY? GOT MY EARPLUGS IN. #lrnchat
5:37:27 pm kelly_smith01: KELLY SMIth ISD ghoul and bat – North Texas – (all caps gets old) #lrnchat
5:37:30 pm lrnchat: NEW 8) Please RT important points and vital questions asked for clarification, so we don’t miss them amid the lively and fast-paced #lrnchat
5:37:32 pm Erick1970: RT @lisagualtieri @eLearnMag #lrnchat article by @dave_ferguson @odguru w links to @daviesAZ @erick1970 & @marciamarcia http://bit.ly/4APd7h
5:37:37 pm joe_deegan: @oxala75 Love eLearning jockey as a job title #lrnchat
5:37:39 pm spotlearning: #lrnchat re:Rule 6 – twitterfall.com may come in handy for slow readers – like me.
5:37:50 pm roninchef: Ahoy, ahoy! Mason Masteka, Elearning Curriculum Developer in Portland ME. Spreading the word on Open Source when ever I can. #lrnchat
5:37:54 pm littleasklab: #lrnchat Leslie Lannan learning strategist from littleAsklab in Seattle
5:38:07 pm odguru: Christy Pettit -enjoying warm Phoenix tonight. Mez, knowledge transfer through social networks, mentoring, communities of practice.#lrnchat
5:38:07 pm JoanVinallCox: Joan Vinall-Cox from Oakville Ontario, communications professor & web evangelist #lrnchat
5:38:19 pm lmardennh: #lrnchat focus and fave topics = Sole Technical Writer, Help Systems – - > to the next level, social media as tool for / in software support
5:38:20 pm Erick1970: #lrnchat Q0 Erick from Arkansas, Org. Effectiveness Consultant, @ASTDNWA 2009 President.
5:38:34 pm lrnchat: Q0 (our weekly #lrnchat welcome, also check out @lrn2day) What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
5:38:40 pm jwillensky: Jason Willensky, freelance ID, currently failing at home improvement, Phoenix AZ #lrnchat
5:38:57 pm LearningPutty: Renee Robbins, Chicago, interested in corporate learning and social media #lrnchat
5:39:04 pm jsuzcampos: @gminks @kasey428 hey ladies! fancy seeing you here! #lrnchat
5:39:07 pm wlonline: WL Wong ICT, University, Sydney, Australia #lrnchat
5:39:26 pm britz: mark britz, Syracuse, NY ID, elearning designer #lrnchat
5:39:34 pm kelly_smith01: think i will go ee cummings style #lrnchat
5:39:42 pm jwillensky: @odguru What are you up to in PHX? This isn’t warm :-) #lrnchat
5:39:44 pm tmiket: Mike Taylor, Columbus OH Learning Developer #lrnchat
5:39:47 pm oxala75: @joe_deegan it suits :) #lrnchat
5:39:51 pm jwindsor: Howdy! Jeff Windsor, Denton TX, Product Manager at Schoolwires, growing my PLN via Twitter. #lrnchat
5:40:07 pm gminks: Q0 I have learned that you should not sing on RockBand until you are 100% over the flu. #lrnchat
5:40:09 pm JoanVinallCox: lrned 2day? There’s nothing good on tv when I want an excuse to avoid work. #lrnchat
5:40:32 pm Quinnovator: Q0: learned today that a quick pep talk is a good prep for an important meeting #lrnchat
5:40:42 pm oxala75: Q0: i learned that not everyone loves data visualization and infographics the way that i do. #lrnchat
5:40:50 pm visualrinse: @lrnchat Q0) today I learned a bit more about Flash Catalyst, I may actually have some use for it! #lrnchat
5:40:56 pm kelly_smith01: reading ruth clarks virtual classroom #lrnchat
5:41:03 pm jsuzcampos: Q0) today i learned, sometimes it is rewarding to show your cards and watch everyone else fold. #lrnchat
5:41:31 pm usablelearning: What did I learn today? That @FakeAPStylebook is hilarious *and* informative #lrnchat
5:41:33 pm Quinnovator: and tho’ Jane says you don’t need rules, keeps it a game and not just a binge: http://lrnchatdrinkinggame.wikispaces.com/ #lrnchat
5:41:38 pm wlonline: Q0 Learnt about this fab and nifty draw application Livebrush.com – can make anyone look like artist :-) #lrnchat
5:41:42 pm roninchef: Q0 I learned about adult learning disabilities at my local ASTD meeting. I also got a little deeper on Google Wave and Prezi. #lrnchat
5:41:43 pm rpannoni: Learned that if you ask 5 Chicago-ans who has the best deep dish pizza in town, you’ll get at least 6 answers. #lrnchat
5:41:53 pm britz: I learned that repetition of your words is a sincere form of flattery …even when people think they thought of it themselves #lrnchat
5:41:56 pm gminks: nice! RT @jsuzcampos: Q0) today i learned, sometimes it is rewarding to show your cards and watch everyone else fold. #lrnchat
5:41:56 pm everyselearning: @Quinnovator are you the pep-er or the pep-ee? #lrnchat
5:41:58 pm JoanVinallCox: lrned this week? When I try to prepare a seminar on researching using the web, it keeps changing. Bing & Twitter, Google & Twitter! #lrnchat
5:42:06 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat trying to learn how to setup bridge between SL and Metaplace ; i’m sure once i learn how to get it to work it will be fabulous.
5:42:06 pm kelly_smith01: read a scary book 2day it’s called SCORM standards #lrnchat
5:42:09 pm jwillensky: Q0 I learned that I still get excited about going to learning conferences. #lrnchat
5:42:11 pm jkunrein: Q0 I re-learned that there really is no such thing as overpreparation to present at a conference >.< #lrnchat
5:42:11 pm AndrewBlanda: Q0: I learned today that people are willing to help if you are willing to ask :-) #lrnchat
5:42:17 pm jrschifff: learned that sometimes you have to learn when to cut bait and look for other alternatives #lrnchat
5:42:32 pm jwillensky: @usablelearning It is hilarious! Just found it yesterday. #lrnchat
5:42:35 pm roninchef: @oxala75 Could you put that in a Venn Diagram for me? #lrnchat
5:42:59 pm stevenbrent: I learned that there is such a thing as team-based restaurant service. At first I was nervous, but then it was fine. #lrnchat
5:43:02 pm gminks: @roninchef cool about adult ld's #lrnchat
5:43:21 pm oxala75: @roninchef dude, i'm not allowed to touch PowerPoint or Excel for at least a week. #lrnchat
5:43:22 pm gminks: haha (and drink!) RT @kelly_smith01: read a scary book 2day its called SCORM standards #lrnchat
5:43:30 pm littleasklab: RT @gminks: nice! RT @jsuzcampos: Q0) today i learned, sometimes it is rewarding to show your cards and watch everyone else fold. #lrnchat
5:43:35 pm kasey428: I have learned it isn't fun to have to physician appointments in one day with a major deadline tomorrow. #lrnchat
5:43:40 pm Quinnovator: @everyselearning I was the pep-ee, and requested the pep-er for the pep #lrnchat
5:43:45 pm LearningPutty: @rpannoni Was Gino's East on that list for best Chicago pizza? #lrnchat
5:43:59 pm wlonline: Q0 dabbled with google wave #lrnchat
5:44:08 pm visualrinse: @rjacquez do you do #lrnchat ? You should join in!
5:44:16 pm wlonline: RT @AndrewBlanda: Q0: I learned today that people are willing to help if you are willing to ask :-) #lrnchat
5:44:26 pm mglazer: very true RT @AndrewBlanda I learned today that people are willing to help if you are willing to ask #lrnchat
5:45:00 pm jsuzcampos: @oxala75 dude, you can make a sweeeeeet venn diagram in MS 2007 Word, go get'em. #lrnchat
5:45:16 pm lmardennh: #lrnchat Q0 lrned this week? uh, that if I start NOW to set up my projects for 2010, I have a fighting chance to get them done by 2011
5:45:34 pm lrnchat: Q1) What new trends, approaches, etc are you suspicious of? #lrnchat
5:45:34 pm allisunelearns: Hi, Allisun here, N. Cali Moodler/eLearner, learned I can get cust. service's attention posting a Twitpic of me 'n crappy product #lrnchat
5:45:47 pm spotlearning: Q0. learned today – some WordPress blogs don't play nicely with HTML…but you can turn design mode off. :-) #lrnchat
5:45:50 pm oxala75: @jsuzcampos the loophole! thx :) #lrnchat
5:45:52 pm Quinnovator: learned today how to present like Steve Jobs: http://bit.ly/rrngA #lrnchat
5:46:00 pm joe_deegan: Learned how to make beer can chicken. It was delicious! http://bit.ly/mtuTz #lrnchat
5:46:20 pm roninchef: @gminks The presenter is a Elearning Playgroup chum. I was therefor support (and bacon) and ended up learning. Go figure! #lrnchat
5:46:22 pm rjacquez: @visualrinse I haven't participated yet, but I do follow the hashtag and find it fascinating. #lrnchat
5:46:44 pm everyselearning: @Quinnovator that was very pep-pro active of you! OK enough! #lrnchat
5:46:55 pm jsuzcampos: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What new trends, approaches, etc are you suspicious of? #lrnchat
5:47:00 pm LearningPutty: Q1) Even though I love social media, I am suspicious of Second Life as a tool for effective and efficient learning. #lrnchat
5:47:02 pm Erick1970: Q0) learned more about work-arounds to working with data in SPSS. #lrnchat
5:47:03 pm gminks: Q1: this will sound weird – but “informal learning”. Just afraid we’ll process all the informal out & it will — well — suck #lrnchat
5:47:04 pm Quinnovator: @oxala75 @jsuzcampos you keep talking MS Office, and you’ll have to drink! #lrnchat
5:47:05 pm rjacquez: Well said! RT @jkunrein: Q0 I re-learned that there really is no such thing as overpreparation to present at a conference >.< #lrnchat
5:47:08 pm tmiket: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What new trends, approaches, etc are you suspicious of? #lrnchat
5:47:24 pm spotlearning: @joe_deegan Party at Joe's house – beer can chicken rocks. #lrnchat
5:47:27 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What new trends, approaches, etc are you suspicious of? #lrnchat
5:47:34 pm tgrevatt: #lrnchat I learned to get out there and pitch an idea. Be brave and the community will support and help.
5:47:35 pm lmardennh: #lrnchat: Q1)Hate to admit it, but still wary of web-based applications. Companies come and go – how can we be sure our stuff is safe?
5:47:38 pm gminks: @roninchef what is elearning playgroup? and what LDs did you talk about? #lrnchat
5:47:58 pm joe_deegan: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What new trends, approaches, etc are you suspicious of? #lrnchat
5:48:11 pm Quinnovator: Q1: digital natives, multi-generational learning, and learning styles #lrnchat
5:48:13 pm minutebio: I am suspicious of Rapid eLearning And SMEs creating elearning #lrnchat
5:48:13 pm gminks: @joe_deegan beer can chicken is awesome!! #lrnchat
5:48:15 pm roninchef: @oxala75 I found a piece of ActionScript that pulls Excel data into a interactive pie chart once. People got sick of that one. #lrnchat
5:48:16 pm timesecrets: RT @/usablelearning Hi #lrnchat – Julie Dirksen – Minneapolis – lots of e-learning, instructional design, and a.. http://bit.ly/LduI9
5:48:17 pm rpannoni: RT @LearningPutty: @rpannoni Was Gino's East on that list for best Chicago pizza? Yes, but I settled on Uno. #lrnchat
5:48:24 pm Erick1970: @gminks informal learning has been taking a lot of flack in blog-land lately. #lrnchat
5:48:24 pm jkunrein: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What new trends, approaches, etc are you suspicious of? #lrnchat
5:48:25 pm LearningPutty: Agree RT @gminks: Q1: this will sound weird – but "informal learning". Just afraid well process all the informal out & it will suck #lrnchat
5:48:59 pm kasey428: RT @lmardennh:: Q1)H…still wary of web-based applications. Companies come and go – how can we be sure our stuff is safe? #lrnchat
5:49:06 pm gminks: @lmardennh of all web-based applications? #lrnchat
5:49:06 pm tmiket: Q1 Nothing jumping immediately into mind on this one #lrnchat
5:49:13 pm oxala75: Q1: i'm always suspicious of VW, but mostly because of its implementation, not its potential. #lrnchat
5:49:17 pm Quinnovator: RT @gminks: Q1: this will sound weird-but "informal learning". Just afraid we'll process all the informal out & it will–well -suck #lrnchat
5:49:19 pm allisunelearns: Q1) I use Google docs so much already, and now w/ Wave's potential, wary of life w/o Google access #lrnchat
5:49:24 pm wlonline: Q1 Ha ha maybe it's old trends / approaches that we shd be suspicious of, no? #lrnchat
5:49:42 pm usablelearning: Yes – it's a tool, not an outcome, people. RT @LearningPutty Q1) Am suspicious of Second Life for effective and efficient learning. #lrnchat
5:49:43 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) I worry that there is a movement to reinvent learning entirely & all the good stuff will go out like baby with the bath water. #lrnchat
5:49:56 pm roninchef: @gminks It is an offshoot of my ASTD chapter, fun and informal. Mostly the different types of Dyslexia with a dash of ADD/ADHD #lrnchat
5:49:56 pm kelly_smith01: Q1 Always learning styles and multi-generation #lrnchat
5:50:01 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat some social media expert claims are scary!
5:50:06 pm joe_deegan: RT @minutebio Suspicious of Rapid eLearning And SMEs creating elearning. Owning a wrench doesn't mean you can fix a car. #lrnchat
5:50:15 pm jkunrein: Q1) I'm HIGHLY suspicious — no, I'm derisive — of tools claiming to "convert" training into multiple delivery methods #lrnchat
5:50:16 pm KoreenOlbrish: I can help :) RT @oxala75: Q1: i'm always suspicious of VW, but mostly because of its implementation, not its potential. #lrnchat
5:50:26 pm allisunelearns: Yes, & a 'letting go' here too. RT @minutebio: I am suspicious of Rapid eLearning And SMEs creating elearning #lrnchat
5:50:37 pm usablelearning: RT @lrnchat Q1) What new trends, approaches, etc are you suspicious of? #lrnchat
5:50:52 pm dpeter: Q1 Too many pedagogical innovations #lrnchat
5:51:00 pm gminks: RT @jsuzcampos: I worry that there's a movement to reinvent learning entirely &the good stuff will go out like baby w bath water. #lrnchat
5:51:03 pm joe_deegan: @Quinnovator I'm suspicious of learners catching on to informal learning. #lrnchat
5:51:05 pm Quinnovator: I think @gminks was talking about people over formalizing informal, and that could be a prob. Otherwise, good. #lrnchat
5:51:06 pm jwillensky: @odguru Never mind. I figured it out! :-) #lrnchat
5:51:14 pm oxala75: @roninchef why would they be sick of that? #lrnchat (you see the problem)
5:51:22 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @gminks: Q1: this will sound weird – but "informal learning". Just afraid well process all the informal out & it will – suck #lrnchat
5:51:25 pm gminks: @roninchef cool! are you in NE (can't remember) #lrnchat
5:51:27 pm mglazer: Q1) tools, tech. & trends that can't easily be explained in plain lang. esp. if the benefits can't easily be explained w/o jargon #lrnchat
5:51:31 pm jsuzcampos: Roger that: @minutebio Suspicious of Rapid eLearning And SMEs creating elearning. Owning a wrench doesnt mean you can fix a car. #lrnchat
5:51:31 pm LearningPutty: RT @lrnchat Q1) What new trends, approaches, etc are you suspicious of? #lrnchat
5:51:35 pm KoreenOlbrish: Missing #lrnchat tonight due to last minute client trip to Orlando. Sigh.
5:51:35 pm jkunrein: @KoreenOlbrish Wondering if you were around… :) #lrnchat
5:51:39 pm oxala75: @minutebio am definitely suspicious of the latter, but i am a bit biased. #lrnchat
5:51:42 pm lmardennh: #lrnchat Q1 I've been in the arena for over 20 years now, have seen so many companies rise and fall (CRM, OfficeProd, HelpAuthoring)
5:51:42 pm kelly_smith01: Q1 Also folks with little or no experience in learning pushing ADDIE since the model is EZ to "get" #lrnchat
5:51:42 pm spotlearning: Q1 – suspicious of any learning that fails the fun test..but that's nothing new. Engage my mind. Please! #lrnchat
5:51:46 pm Erick1970: 1) Wary of self-proclaimed social media experts. #lrnchat
5:52:05 pm JoanVinallCox: Not enough pedagogical innovations based on how communication is changing #lrnchat
5:52:06 pm littleasklab: Lance Dublin makes distinction between formal, informal and "intentional" informal that's useful for design #lrnchat
5:52:16 pm oxala75: @KoreenOlbrish what, is the mention of VW like the Batsignal to you? :) #lrnchat
5:52:22 pm jwillensky: Q1 Suspicious of calls for complete reinvention of field during economic downturn. #lrnchat
5:52:26 pm kasey428: RT @Erick1970: 1) Wary of self-proclaimed social media experts. #lrnchat
5:52:33 pm gminks: oh no not again… RT @joe_deegan: RT @minutebio Suspicious of Rapid eLearning And SMEs creating elearning. #lrnchat
5:52:35 pm dpeter: Q1, Trendy learning ideas and strategies #lrnchat
5:52:48 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Erick1970: 1) Wary of self-proclaimed social media experts. #lrnchat
5:52:48 pm jsuzcampos: RT @kelly_smith01: Q1 Also folks with little or no experience in learning pushing … #lrnchat
5:52:51 pm joe_deegan: @Erick1970 Seems like everyone with a Twitter account is a social media expert all of a sudden. #lrnchat
5:52:58 pm jkunrein: Also wary of “I’m not a social media expert BUT…” RT @Erick1970: 1) Wary of self-proclaimed social media experts. #lrnchat
5:52:59 pm roninchef: Q1 Virtual Worlds still haven’t sold me on there practicality yet. Maybe it is still too close to the edge right now. Too Dadaist. #lrnchat
5:53:00 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q1. Any tool that claims it’s “rapid” :) #lrnchat
5:53:12 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @spotlearning: Q1 – suspicious of any learning that fails the fun test..but thats nothing new. Engage my mind. Please! #lrnchat
5:53:16 pm gminks: yes RT @Quinnovator: I think @gminks was talking about people over formalizing informal, and that could be a prob #lrnchat
5:53:21 pm eduinnovation: RT @JoanVinallCox: Not enough pedagogical innovations based on how communication is changing #lrnchat
5:53:25 pm LearningPutty: Agree – if some one thinks they R an expert they R missing something RT @Erick1970: 1) Wary of self-proclaimed social media experts #lrnchat
5:53:33 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @Erick1970: 1) Wary of self-proclaimed social media experts. #lrnchat
5:53:37 pm gminks: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @Erick1970: 1) Wary of self-proclaimed social media experts. #lrnchat
5:53:39 pm allisunelearns: Agreed, & educaiton needs to keep up. RT @JoanVinallCox: Not enough pedagogical innovations based on how communication is changing #lrnchat
5:53:44 pm Quinnovator: @joe_deegan analog: teachers finding that better learning design means guiding good discussion instead of lecturing #lrnchat
5:53:49 pm lmardennh: #lrnchat Q1 a little paranoia + sturdy contingency plans would be a healthy approach, when committing to web-based apps. but I like control.
5:53:51 pm roninchef: @gminks Up heah in Maine, yessah. Aren’t we doing a Tweetup soon? #lrnchat
5:53:54 pm joe_deegan: Suspicious of training being the solution. #lrnchat
5:54:02 pm kelly_smith01: RT @jwillensky: Q1 Suspicious of calls for complete reinvention of field during economic downturn. #lrnchat
5:54:17 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) Though, I admit, I don’t often use the term “suspicious” often in relation to learning, need to percolate on this one. #lrnchat
5:54:20 pm mglazer: @jkunrein good one! #lrnchat
5:54:32 pm oxala75: @center4EduPunx ha – yeah, i recently listened in on a call where someone did exactly that. not inspiring. #lrnchat
5:54:34 pm Quinnovator: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q1. Any tool that claims it’s ‘rapid’ :) #lrnchat
5:54:36 pm littleasklab: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q1. Any tool that claims it’s “rapid” :) #lrnchat
5:54:44 pm LearningPutty: I think @quinnovator said “multi-generational” classrooms? I tend to agree. #lrnchat
5:54:48 pm everyselearning: RT joe_deegan @Erick1970 Seems like everyone with a Twitter account is a social media expert all of a sudden.$to be made me thinks #lrnchat
5:54:49 pm kasey428: Any software that says, “So easy to learn and use!” #lrnchat
5:55:13 pm stevenbrent: I worry about drowning in an ocean of content which is devoid of context. #lrnchat
5:55:16 pm wlonline: Q1 Suspicious of interests only in compliance training #lrnchat
5:55:19 pm Quinnovator: @roninchef we should talk, I’m being converted to the dark side re: virtual worlds #lrnchat
5:55:22 pm minutebio: RT @joe_deegan: Suspicious of training being the solution. Good Needs analysis will cure nthat #lrnchat
5:55:28 pm spotlearning: @KoreenOlbrish Processes can be “rapid” but it’s the right outcomes we seek. Well founded fear, IMHO. #lrnchat
5:55:36 pm gminks: @roninchef I think so — IDK sickness messed the schedule in my head up :) #lrnchat
5:55:36 pm tmiket: @joe_deegan Yep many OTHER issues often designated as training issue #lrnchat
5:55:57 pm gminks: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @jwillensky: Q1 Suspicious of calls for complete reinvention of field during economic downturn. #lrnchat
5:56:04 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @stevenbrent: I worry about [students]drowning in an ocean of content which is devoid of context. #lrnchat
5:56:04 pm Erick1970: RT @stevenbrent: I worry about drowning in an ocean of content which is devoid of context. #lrnchat
5:56:08 pm usablelearning: #lrnchat Q1 – Kind of a reverse, but I’m dubious of the new trends and approaches lms vendors are NOT taking
5:56:14 pm oxala75: RT @jwillensky Q1 Suspicious of calls for complete reinvention of field during economic downturn. #lrnchat
5:56:15 pm kelly_smith01: RT @wlonline: Q1 Suspicious of interests only in compliance training (Say: Yesss) #lrnchat
5:56:29 pm Quinnovator: RT @spotlearning: Q1 – suspicious of any learning that fails the fun test..but that’s nothing new. Engage my mind. Please! #lrnchat
5:56:34 pm eduinnovation: I love collaboration, but I am suspicious of those who make collaboration the point of everything in teaching and learning #lrnchat
5:56:38 pm jkunrein: Me too, slowly. RT @Quinnovator: @roninchef we should talk, Im being converted to the dark side re: virtual worlds #lrnchat
5:56:44 pm Erick1970: Q1) Suspicious of learning vendors that already have solutions. #lrnchat
5:56:46 pm oxala75: @Quinnovator @roninchef are lightsabers involved? #lrnchat
5:56:49 pm tmiket: @kasey428 I like easy to use software but ….just b/c you have a wrench doesn’t make you a mechanic..need 2 know what 2 do with it #lrnchat
5:57:00 pm spotlearning: RT @stevenbrent: I worry about drowning in an ocean of content which is devoid of context. #lrnchat
5:57:06 pm oxala75: @kasey428 i don’t even believe that in infomercials. #lrnchat
5:57:10 pm mglazer: @minutebio @joe_deegan yes. maybe better to say that it can be a part of the solution. #lrnchat
5:57:11 pm melburgluft: @KoreenOlbrish what, is the mention of VW like the Batsignal to you? :) #lrnchat: @KoreenOlbrish what,.. http://bit.ly/2QKVZv #retweet
5:57:15 pm joe_deegan: @minutebio Magers books on needs analysis changed my outlook on corporate training #lrnchat
5:57:19 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) Suspicious of any tool that “simply converts your powerpoint to engaging interactive online self-paced learning” (*snap*!) #lrnchat
5:57:19 pm odguru: RT @jwillensky: Q1 Suspicious of calls for complete reinvention of field during economic downturn. #lrnchat
5:57:22 pm LearningPutty: YESSS!RT @kelly_smith01: RT @wlonline: Q1 Suspicious of interests only in compliance training (Say: Yesss) #lrnchat
5:57:22 pm everyselearning: so easy to say…’training issue”, “work around”, “SEP” #lrnchat
5:57:32 pm Quinnovator: @littleasklab not sure I buy that ‘non-formal’ line of Lance’s, but if it’s useful #lrnchat
5:57:35 pm usablelearning: Yeah – been trying to be open-minded, but I also mistrust RT @KoreenOlbrish Q1. Any tool that claims it’s “rapid” :) #lrnchat
5:57:53 pm roninchef: @Quinnovator Love to hear about it. I think AR is the better bet. Everyone in my org has a smartphone but might not like VW #lrnchat
5:57:57 pm allisunelearns: Suspicious about the proliferation of screencasting (ie rise of screenr) and people actually making the effort of accessibility. #lrnchat
5:58:06 pm jwillensky: Q1 Suspicious of Adobe Captivate help files, including all adjectives and punctuation. #lrnchat
5:58:08 pm jkunrein: RT @kasey428 I like easy to use software but ….just b/c you have a wrench doesnt make you a mechanic #lrnchat
5:58:10 pm dpeter: RT @Erick1970: RT @stevenbrent: I worry about drowning in an ocean of content which is devoid of context. #lrnchat
5:58:17 pm Quinnovator: @oxala75 can be; it’s virtual, after all #lrnchat
5:58:20 pm jsuzcampos: RT @stevenbrent: I worry about drowning in an ocean of content which is devoid of context. #lrnchat
5:58:36 pm oxala75: @jsuzcampos i heard that one today! my throat tightened a little. #lrnchat
5:58:39 pm kelly_smith01: Suspicious of training departments converting all ILT training to e-learning w/o justification. #lrnchat
5:58:46 pm Erick1970: @everyselearning Sometimes it is a process issue or an org design issue. #lrnchat
5:58:58 pm Quinnovator: .@usablelearning actually, kind of dubious re: LMS at all! #lrnchat
5:59:05 pm odguru: Not new but I am highly suspicious of leadership rollouts and their true value. #lrnchat
5:59:12 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @jsuzcampos: Q1) Suspicious any tool “simply converts your powerpoint to engaging interactive self-paced learning” (*snap*!) #lrnchat
5:59:20 pm LearningPutty: Right tool 4 right job RT @eduinnovation: I lv collab, but suspicious of those who make collaboration pnt of evrythng in tchg&lrng #lrnchat
5:59:31 pm joe_deegan: Almost forgot to grab a drink for #lrnchat
5:59:52 pm odguru: RT @stevenbrent: I worry about drowning in an ocean of content which is devoid of context. #lrnchat
6:00:05 pm Quinnovator: RT @jsuzcampos: Q1) Suspicious of any tool that “simply converts your powerpoint to engaging interactive online self-paced learning#lrnchat
6:00:09 pm roninchef: @allisunelearns I have to say I have learned a ton from Screenr. I think it is exactly the kind of nimble apps we need right now. #lrnchat
6:00:24 pm everyselearning: @lmardennh just wait til we get warmed up! #lrnchat
6:00:24 pm MariaOD: Hi #lrnchat! Interesting comments. I think “rapid” is getting a bad rap here!
6:00:29 pm kasey428: RT @jsuzcampos: Q1) Suspicious any tool “simply converts your powerpoint to engaging interactive self-paced learning” (*snap*!) #lrnchat
6:00:36 pm minutebio: RT @kelly_smith01: Suspicious of training departments converting all ILT training to e-learning w/o justification.Big Problem #lrnchat
6:00:54 pm tmiket: @JoanVinallCox YES!! If PPT wasn’t engaging NO tool will make it so. #lrnchat
6:00:55 pm Quinnovator: @roninchef no right answers, only tradeoffs, but certain things are powerful in VW’s (e.g. collab creation) #lrnchat
6:01:06 pm lmardennh: #lrnchat Q1 – I am deeply suspicious of anyone (salespeople) who wants to “reach out” to me. I would want to go out to dinner first.
6:01:07 pm eduinnovation: I worry about too much staff development that is conducted outside of the context of work. #lrnchat
6:01:18 pm ronindotca: @LearningPutty I agree, and same same anyone who gets ahold of one tool/theory and won’t let go. Everything is a nail! #lrnchat #lrnchat
6:01:22 pm jkunrein: Got that, @rjacquez? ;) RT @jwillensky: Q1 Suspicious of Adobe Captivate help files, including all adjectives and punctuation. #lrnchat
6:01:37 pm mglazer: So now we know what everyone is suspicious of. What’s everyone have faith in? #lrnchat
6:01:47 pm allisunelearns: @roninchef Exactly why I’m concerned – it’s a great learning tool for us who can see & hear. Don’t want others left out. #lrnchat
6:01:53 pm wlonline: Q1 Suspicious of one perfect tool for all training needs/requirements #lrnchat
6:02:03 pm Quinnovator: suspicious of software training that’s based upon ‘copy this example’ #lrnchat
6:02:05 pm everyselearning: @Erick1970 or a bug in the application! #lrnchat
6:02:08 pm littleasklab: RT @roninchef: @allisunelearns I have learned a ton from Screenr. I think it is exactly the kind of nimble apps we need right now. #lrnchat
6:02:09 pm spotlearning: @joe_deegan Just make sure it’s one of the 5 that didn’t go under the chicken. #lrnchat
6:02:11 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat I’m suspicious of the term Web 3.0 – is it the semantic web ? has it started like has been claimed w/ Twitter/Google/Bing deal?
6:02:17 pm jsuzcampos: RT @roninchef: @allisunelearns I have learned a ton from Screenr. A nimble/modern app #lrnchat
6:02:21 pm odguru: Still suspicious of execs who say “we’re gettin behind this” and do little to show it. #lrnchat
6:02:23 pm MariaOD: It’s not about the tool…it’s the design st*pid! #lrnchat I love having a variety of tools in my arsenal and I am excited about Screenr.
6:02:33 pm minutebio: RT @MariaOD: Hi #lrnchat! Interesting comments. I think “rapid”is getting a bad rap here! Ys, term abused but represents thebad nw #lrnchat
6:02:39 pm kasey428: RT @Quinnovator: suspicious of software training thats based upon copy this example #lrnchat
6:02:41 pm usablelearning: Agreed – relevance? utility? @Quinnovator actually, kind of dubious re: LMS at all! #lrnchat
6:02:43 pm kelly_smith01: RT eduinnovation I worry about too much staff development that is conducted outside of the context of work. #lrnchat #lrnchat
6:02:43 pm Quinnovator: RT @lmardennh: #lrnchat Q1 – am suspicious of anyone (salespeople) who wants to “reach out” to me. I want to go out to dinner first.
6:02:44 pm lrnchat: Just joining us and not sure what’s the question? You can always check @lrnchat #lrnchat
6:02:44 pm ronindotca: (things I’ve learned today – don’t have to put hash tag on posts within tweetchat!) #lrnchat
6:02:49 pm tmiket: @roninchef Me too on learning lots via Screenr @allisun #lrnchat
6:02:49 pm tmiket: @roninchef Me too on learning lots via Screenr @allisun #lrnchat
6:02:54 pm drmmtatom: Embedded PD is best – RT @eduinnovation: I worry about too much staff development that is conducted outside of the context of work. #lrnchat
6:02:57 pm jwillensky: @jkunrein Oh, thanks Judy! :-) #lrnchat
6:02:59 pm jsuzcampos: RT @mglazer: So now we know what everyone is suspicious of. Whats everyone have faith in? #lrnchat
6:03:10 pm MariaOD: RT @Quinnovator: suspicious of software training thats based upon copy this example #lrnchat<<<right on!
6:03:10 pm joe_deegan: @spotlearning Budweiser for the Chicken. Mirror Pond Pale Ale for me. #lrnchat
6:03:11 pm rjacquez: @jwillensky @jkunrein Haha, I sure did :-) #lrnchat
6:03:36 pm dpeter: Q1 Professional development that isn't professional or development #lrnchat
6:03:38 pm Quinnovator: @kzenovka my take: web 1.0 = producer-generated content, web 2.0 = user-generated content, web 3.0 system-generated content #lrnchat
6:03:39 pm oxala75: @lmardennh seriously. at least a little wine and soft music. #lrnchat
6:03:44 pm stevenbrent: YES! RT @odguru: Still suspicious of execs who say "we're gettin behind this" and do little to show it. #lrnchat
6:03:45 pm gminks: RT @wlonline: Q1 Suspicious of one perfect tool for all training needs/requirements #lrnchat
6:04:06 pm roninchef: @Quinnovator I think I am just not in an environment where I can see the value of VW. Collab w/ apps like skype and Gdocs work here #lrnchat
6:04:34 pm Quinnovator: @jsuzcampos you're jumping the question queue! #lrnchat
6:04:36 pm minutebio: RT @jsuzcampos: RT @mglazer: So now we know what everyone is suspicious of. Whats everyone have faith in? Learning & Audience #lrnchat
6:04:50 pm dpeter: RT @kzenovka my take: web 1.0 = producer-generated content, web 2.0 = user-generated content, web 3.0 system-generated content #lrnchat
6:04:51 pm jkunrein: My husband, @scottu, wants to weigh in that he's suspicious of an industry that just makes up words. He's still not over "webinar". #lrnchat
6:04:51 pm wlonline: RT @LearningPutty: Right tool 4 rt job @eduinnovation Iv collab but suspicious of those who make collaboration pnt of evrythng T&L #lrnchat
6:04:54 pm ronindotca: By the way, pardon for random tweets/updates in facebook, following/commenting in #lrnchat
6:04:58 pm cybraryman1: RT @gminks: RT @wlonline: Q1 Suspicious of one perfect tool for all training needs/requirements #lrnchat
6:05:12 pm lmardennh: Definitely – it's almost useless. RT @Quinnovator: suspicious of software training thats based upon copy this example #lrnchat
6:05:31 pm gminks: the snake is outside now…whew #lrnchat
6:05:36 pm nancyrubin: Anyone played with Google Wave yet? Thoughts for eLeanring? #lrnchat
6:05:36 pm Quinnovator: @roninchef long term view is part, but 3D domains benefit (may not be yours, but I'm being surprised) #lrnchat
6:05:43 pm JoanVinallCox: Suspicious of admin that says use new tools but tells you how to use them, demonstrating lack of understanding #lrnchat
6:05:51 pm oxala75: @jkunrein i can't necessarily disagree. #lrnchat
6:05:57 pm stevenbrent: I don't employ faith in any area of my life…haven't found a need for it! #lrnchat
6:06:00 pm LearningPutty: Q1) I am suspicious of technologies that make learning too hard. Twitter is easy, other tools take too much time to explain 2 user #lrnchat
6:06:08 pm hybridkris: Q0) Kris Rockwell, Hybrid Learning Systems, Nomadic Learning geek. #lrnchat
6:06:11 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @lmardennh: Definitely – its almost useless. RT @Quinnovator: suspicious of software training thats based upon copy this example #lrnchat
6:06:19 pm kelly_smith01: Suspicious of technical writing looked as or called learning #lrnchat
6:06:22 pm jsuzcampos: RT @Quinnovator: you're jumping the question queue! my bad, got excited, ants in my pants. #lrnchat
6:06:27 pm littleasklab: RT @jkunrein: My husband, @scottu, wants to weigh he's suspicious of an industry that makes up words. He's still not over webinar. #lrnchat
6:06:31 pm Quinnovator: :) RT @jkunrein: My husband, @scottu, is suspicious of an industry that just makes up words. He's still not over 'webinar'. #lrnchat
6:06:33 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @nancyrubin: Anyone played with Google Wave yet? Thoughts for eLeanring? #lrnchat
6:06:34 pm oxala75: @JoanVinallCox every. single. day. #lrnchat
6:06:41 pm spotlearning: Q1 – Yeah, "rapid" doesn't have to mean "crappy"; it's all according to the context/need/design. Had much success with RE #lrnchat
6:06:59 pm joe_deegan: @lmardennh @Quinnovator Suspicious of software training organized according to order of the applications menu. #lrnchat
6:07:06 pm J_Schulz: @hybridkris You're late Kris! (But then again, so am I.) #lrnchat
6:07:12 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat @dpeter That's been my understanding but the twitterverse has been using that term in vain this week along with web squared.
6:07:13 pm lmardennh: @oxala75 I keep hearing that song "I'll Be There" whenever I hear it. #lrnchat. one of those buzz phrases (Reach Out) that needs to die
6:07:24 pm ronindotca: @nancyrubin so far it feels like early voice chat, Hello?? Anyone there? I guess I need more contacts. #lrnchat
6:07:24 pm jsuzcampos: @abigrace you should join #lrnchat RIGHT NOW ….!!!!
6:07:44 pm roninchef: @Quinnovator Been on the web too long and a gamer too long to not be sceptical about it. Willing to give the benefit of the doubt. #lrnchat
6:07:46 pm nancyrubin: We have a Wave going – a few of us at work – if your interested in joining let me know #lrnchat
6:07:47 pm Quinnovator: and vendors that claim! RT @wlonline: Q1 Suspicious of one perfect tool for all training needs/requirements #lrnchat
6:07:50 pm dpeter: Q0 David Peter, Director of Center for Teaching and Learning – sorry for out of sequence!! #lrnchat
6:07:54 pm MariaOD: RT Q1 – Yeah, "rapid" doesn't have to mean "crappy"; it's all according to the context/need/design. Had much success with RE #lrnchat< I think so! #lrnchat
6:09:20 pm stevenbrent: Wow, are we still on Question 1 !? #lrnchat
6:09:21 pm Quinnovator: @hybridkris ah, sorry. Scary how high is normal for a kid that’d basically kill an adult #lrnchat
6:09:23 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @joe_deegan: @ronindotca Try participating through http://tweetchat.com Much easier to follow that way. I second that. #lrnchat
6:09:29 pm MariaOD: Eating blue crabs and #lrnchating doesn’t work well!!! lol #lrnchat
6:09:39 pm moehlert: @lrnchat Q1 Anything that “9″ of this or “7″ of that. The universe ain’t that neat. #lrnchat
6:09:42 pm wlonline: RT @nancyrubin: We have a Wave going – a few of us at work – if your interested in joining let me know #lrnchat
6:09:45 pm jwillensky: @oxala75 Kicked out? I think that might be this club’s manifesto. #lrnchat
6:09:53 pm media1der: @gminks coming in middle of second act, but of course tech writing is used in learning for technical subject matter #lrnchat
6:09:54 pm roninchef: @moehlert Look at what the cat dragged in! #lrnchat
6:09:54 pm J_Schulz: @Quinnovator Re: LMS – then you must have seen this: http://bit.ly/3tgldq (sign in to read comments). #lrnchat
6:10:05 pm minutebio: I am just plain suspicious. #lrnchat
6:10:22 pm gminks: @Erick1970 wait – are we agreeing on something? ;) #lrnchat
6:10:22 pm jwillensky: @MariaOD Mmmm. Blue crabs. #lrnchat
6:10:48 pm joe_deegan: RT @minutebio: I am just plain suspicious. #lrnchat
6:10:58 pm jsuzcampos: RT @minutebio: I am just plain suspicious. #lrnchat
6:11:03 pm jkunrein: suspicious of long silences… on to the next question! #lrnchat
6:11:04 pm everyselearning: @nancyrubin I’d like to join. Please DM me. #lrnchat
6:11:06 pm lrnchat: Q2) What skills are we missing in the suite necessary for good learning design? #lrnchat
6:11:10 pm busynessgirl: I am fashionably late tonight (forgot I am in another time zone). #lrnchat
6:11:12 pm Quinnovator: wanted enough time to vent, love this stuff ;) RT @stevenbrent: Wow, are we still on Question 1 !? #lrnchat
6:11:16 pm Erick1970: @gminks I think so. :) #lrnchat
6:11:18 pm ronindotca: @joe_deegan Oh I am.. I was taking about wave #lrnchat
6:11:20 pm kelly_smith01: Yes pure technical writing can be very useful part of training #lrnchat
6:11:26 pm jwillensky: @wlonline @nancyrubin I’ll Wave with you! #lrnchat
6:11:27 pm minutebio: RT @MariaOD: Eating blue crabs and #lrnchating doesnt work well!!! lol MD Crabcakes work better. Hey from Baltimore! #lrnchat
6:11:46 pm jkunrein: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What skills are we missing in the suite necessary for good learning design? #lrnchat
6:11:59 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What skills are we missing in the suite necessary for good learning design? #lrnchat
6:12:03 pm dpeter: Q2 Time, patience, and good old fashion communication #lrnchat
6:12:06 pm kelly_smith01: I am not paranoid everyone just thinks I am. #lrnchat
6:12:09 pm roninchef: @oxala75 I can’t say I’m a fan either. Unless they’re paying for freelance work :) #lrnchat
6:12:15 pm gminks: Q2 – negotiation skills with biz leaders #lrnchat
6:12:16 pm moehlert: @roninchef #lrnchat Why thank you! I think….
6:12:30 pm jkunrein: Q2) Creativity. Ability to take risks. Ability to write good plot and dialogue. #lrnchat
6:12:32 pm Quinnovator: @J_Schulz read about it? I’d rather opine in ignorance ;) #lrnchat
6:12:38 pm mglazer: Q2) strong business acumen #lrnchat
6:12:38 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @dpeter: Q2 Time, patience, and good old fashion communication #lrnchat
6:12:40 pm busynessgirl: Q2: We’re missing the idea that play and flexible learning is necessary for motivation. Most learning design is so inflexible. #lrnchat
6:12:40 pm moehlert: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What skills are we missing in the suite necessary for good learning design? #lrnchat
6:12:41 pm usablelearning: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What skills are we missing in the suite necessary for good learning design? #lrnchat
6:12:58 pm wlonline: @jwillensky: @wlonline @nancyrubin I’ll Wave with you! #lrnchat necessary for motivation. Most learning design is so inflexible. #lrnchat
6:13:52 pm nancyrubin: @jwillensky let me know how to connect with you on Wave #lrnchat
6:13:57 pm tmiket: RT @jsuzcampos: Q2) Context. Great one! #lrnchat
6:14:00 pm stevenbrent: People learn through narrative. Fail to create that and the lesson won’t stick. #lrnchat #lrnchat
6:14:02 pm SheSeeksHim: #lrnchat What’s the discussion tonight? d Erick 1970
6:14:19 pm allisunelearns: Q2) Personally, I need to improve upon the skill to display humor through writing. #lrnchat
6:14:19 pm Erick1970: Q2) Designers need to get out of the “this is the way we design” box & learn to see differently. #lrnchat
6:14:21 pm ronindotca: RT @jwillensky: Q2 Writing, basic graphic design, writing, OD fundamentals, writing #lrnchat
6:14:21 pm jwillensky: RT @jsuzcampos: Q2) Context. <–Yup. #lrnchat
6:14:22 pm gminks: me either – tech moves too fast! RT @lmardennh: I dont have the luxury of separating techdoc and training #lrnchat
6:14:23 pm lmardennh: Q2: what are we missing? solid tools to justify our existence (ROI) and obtain needed resources. or maybe it's just me. #lrnchat
6:14:23 pm stevenbrent: RT @oxala75: Q2: been said before, but an appreciation for storytelling and the benefits of associations #lrnchat
6:14:29 pm Quinnovator: RT @jkunrein: Q2) Creativity. Ability to take risks. Ability to write good plot and dialogue. #lrnchat
6:14:29 pm busynessgirl: Isn't there a more fundamental question here? Can you "design" learning? You can design an environment, but … #lrnchat
6:14:31 pm jkunrein: @rpannoni Exactly. He's a composer. "Counterpuntal"??? C'mon… ;) #lrnchat
6:14:33 pm joe_deegan: Q2) Focus more on improving analysis and design skills and less on tech #lrnchat
6:14:35 pm Quinnovator: RT @mglazer: Q2) strong business acumen #lrnchat
6:14:39 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat @busynessgirl agree we are missing designer who create engaging game-like environments!
6:14:39 pm wlonline: Q2 poor choice of words; shd be support them better in our learning design #lrnchat
6:14:43 pm nancyrubin: Learning Activities that connect to the real world #lrnchat #lrnchat
6:14:49 pm usablelearning: #lrnchat Q2 – Learning designers missing the ability to persuade / convince / inspire – learnin' 'em ain't enough
6:14:52 pm roninchef: @moehlert Whose going to be there for my end of chat spiral into nerdom if not you? #lrnchat
6:14:52 pm kellygarber: Q2 missing intuition #lrnchat
6:14:57 pm minutebio: RT @Quinnovator: Q2: a willingness to go to the mat for the user experience, supporting fun over seriousness 100% agree #lrnchat
6:14:58 pm kelly_smith01: Q2 More support develop just-in-time and or short/brief training modules. Instead of big & bulky #lrnchat
6:15:00 pm oxala75: @jsuzcampos too true. #lrnchat
6:15:05 pm wlonline: @SheSeeksHim workplace learning #lrnchat
6:15:14 pm kasey428: RT @joe_deegan: Q2) Focus more on improving analysis and design skills and less on tech #lrnchat
6:15:15 pm jwillensky: @nancyrubin @wlonline I'll DM you. #lrnchat
6:15:16 pm Quinnovator: Q2: I'll add 'project management' #lrnchat
6:15:18 pm LearningPutty: Q2) I think we are missing the time to devote to enhancing current curriculum to leverage new technologies where appropriate. #lrnchat
6:15:22 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @stevenbrent: People learn through narrative. Fail to create that and the lesson wont stick. #lrnchat #lrnchat
6:15:28 pm mglazer: @jkunrein the ability to write complete sentences is, sadly, a missing skill for many people #lrnchat
6:15:33 pm dpeter: @busynessgirl Hmm, design learning? Facilitate, engage, empower, enable learning maybe #lrnchat
6:15:41 pm oxala75: Q2: real, earnest appreciation for learner's time/situation? #lrnchat
6:15:44 pm chambo_online: Will be on lrnchat for a while – pls ignore rapid tweeting for the next 1.5 hours
6:15:45 pm media1der: basics of good story writing are essential for authoring scenario based training. Designing and writing are two different things. #lrnchat
6:15:46 pm tmiket: @joe_deegan Totally agree that the tech part is over emphasized #lrnchat
6:15:49 pm KoreenOlbrish: @melburgluft I felt a disturbance in the force :) #lrnchat
6:15:53 pm joe_deegan: Small chunks and lots of practice #lrnchat
6:15:57 pm Quinnovator: Q2: a laser focus on 'meaningful outcomes' and a willingness to battle SMEs to get to key decisions, not just knowledge #lrnchat
6:15:58 pm jkunrein: WORD. RT @Quinnovator: Q2: a willingness to go to the mat for the user experience, supporting fun over seriousness #lrnchat
6:16:02 pm nancyrubin: RT @Quinnovator: Q2: Ill add project management #lrnchat
6:16:04 pm media1der: RT @mglazer: @jkunrein the ability to write complete sentences is, sadly, a missing skill for many people #lrnchat
6:16:08 pm oxala75: @Quinnovator that deserves a drink of some sort. #lrnchat
6:16:11 pm moehlert: RT @Quinnovator: RT @mglazer: Q2) strong business acumen #lrnchat Yeah, That.
6:16:13 pm allisunelearns: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2 More support develop just-in-time and or short/brief training modules. Instead of big & bulky #lrnchat
6:16:21 pm nancyrubin: I think project management is underestimated. #lrnchat #lrnchat
6:16:25 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @LearningPutty: Q2) we are missing time2 devote 2 enhancing current curriculum to leverage new technologies where appropriate. #lrnchat
6:16:28 pm jsuzcampos: Q2) Focus more on improving analysis and design skills and less on tech RT @kasey428 @joe_deegan #lrnchat
6:16:38 pm Quinnovator: @oxala75 thanks, I’ll take that suggestion! #lrnchat
6:16:39 pm gminks: q2 how about missing necessary resources altogether #lrnchat
6:16:40 pm hybridkris: @Erick1970 I agree with that and it goes hand in hand with my feeling about courseware on a mobile. Traditional doesn’t work. #lrnchat
6:16:44 pm moehlert: @lrnchat So if these skills are missing #1 Why and #2 What do we do about it? #lrnchat
6:16:48 pm minutebio: Needs analysis and identifying learners needs, not assume customer knows what they need. #lrnchat
6:16:49 pm Erick1970: Q2) Need to really know the business too (inside & out). Tools & skills are useless without context. #lrnchat
6:16:52 pm lmardennh: amen, sistah! RT @LearningPutty: Q2) we are missing time to devote to enhancing current curriculum to leverage new technologies #lrnchat
6:16:54 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @joe_deegan: Small chunks and lots of practice #lrnchat
6:16:56 pm roninchef: Q2 More bandwidth and free reign to maximise on it, please. #lrnchat
6:17:03 pm jsuzcampos: RT @Quinnovator: Q2: a laser focus on meaningful outcomes and a willingness to battle SMEs to get to key decisions #lrnchat
6:17:05 pm nancyrubin: Fluid processes – the process should not get in the way of the design. #lrnchat #lrnchat
6:17:05 pm dpeter: RT @mglazer: @jkunrein the ability to write complete sentences is, sadly, a missing skill for many people #lrnchat
6:17:06 pm tmiket: Yes, yes yes!!! RT @Quinnovator: Q2: a willingness to go to the mat for the user experience #lrnchat
6:17:09 pm LearningPutty: Q2) We are missing the lrng research data needed to support social media when questioned by Legal, IT, and execs. #lrnchat
6:17:11 pm Erick1970: RT @moehlert: RT @Quinnovator: RT @mglazer: Q2) strong business acumen #lrnchat Yeah, That. #lrnchat
6:17:14 pm media1der: RT @tmiket: @joe_deegan the tech part is over emphasized <– Wonders if that is a misconception of true goal of prof. tech writing #lrnchat
6:17:17 pm Quinnovator: Q2: an understanding of minimalism and willingness to give credit to learner intelligence, and challenge them #lrnchat
6:17:21 pm allisunelearns: Yes, so needed. RT @Quinnovator: Q2: a willingness to go to the mat for the user experience, supporting fun over seriousness #lrnchat
6:17:30 pm chambo_online: Once again…late to the party. Lisa Chamberlin, freelance online educator, writer, open ed enthusiast. #lrnchat
6:17:35 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @Erick1970: Q2) Need to really know the business too (inside & out). Tools & skills are useless without context. #lrnchat
6:17:36 pm ronindotca: RT @tmiket: @joe_deegan Totally agree that tech part is over emphasized: there's not enough thought about appropriateness of tech #lrnchat
6:17:38 pm media1der: good tech writing for learning is not the same thing as technical documentation #lrnchat
6:17:45 pm nancyrubin: @gminks that is a problem we face a lot. Especially since we have a fairly condensed development cycle. #lrnchat
6:17:49 pm oxala75: @kelly_smith01 if i could, i'd spend the next year on that topic alone #lrnchat
6:17:57 pm kellygarber: Q2 passion for the experience #lrnchat
6:18:09 pm minutebio: Measuring audience for prior knowledge #lrnchat
6:18:20 pm timesecrets: RT @/Quinnovator Q2: I'll add 'project management' #lrnchat http://bit.ly/11Sgou
6:18:22 pm timesecrets: RT @/nancyrubin RT @Quinnovator: Q2: Ill add project management #lrnchat http://bit.ly/5PplE
6:18:25 pm gminks: and abs. req. for tech training… RT @media1der: good tech writing for learning is not the same thing as technical documentation #lrnchat
6:18:25 pm nancyrubin: Going through BPM training right now – understanding the process and quantifying is a whole different perspective #lrnchat #lrnchat
6:18:29 pm usablelearning: #lrnchat Q2 – Learning Designers also struggle with letting go of control ("But they might miss something!")
6:18:30 pm MariaOD: I am feral because I can eat blue crabs and #lrnchat! And I needed to drink the Rolling Rock!! lol sorry!
6:18:33 pm kellygarber: RT @LearningPutty: Q2) We are missing the lrng research data needed to support social media when questioned by Legal, IT, execs. #lrnchat
6:18:37 pm kasey428: @media1der Agree 100% #lrnchat
6:18:38 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @kellygarber: Q2 passion for the experience #lrnchat
6:18:43 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @minutebio: Measuring audience for prior knowledge #lrnchat
6:18:44 pm jkunrein: Q2) Willingness to say "lack of time allotted for training dev on your part doesn't necessitate working this weekend on my part" #lrnchat
6:18:44 pm LearningPutty: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What skills are we missing in the suite necessary for good learning design? #lrnchat
6:18:47 pm stevenbrent: RT @stevenbrent: People learn through narrative. Fail to create that and the lesson wont stick. #lrnchat #lrnchat
6:18:48 pm media1der: RT @Quinnovator: [missing] understanding of minimalism and willingness to give credit to learner intelligence #lrnchat
6:18:57 pm lmardennh: Q2 also missing earlier input into software usability and development – constantly finding issues only when doc'ing "finished" s/w. #lrnchat
6:18:59 pm rpannoni: @MariaOD: 'Eating blue crabs and #lrnchating doesn't work well!!! lol' – Try a different color? #lrnchat
6:19:01 pm littleasklab: RT @media1der: good tech writing for learning is not the same thing as technical documentation #lrnchat
6:19:04 pm busynessgirl: Q2: We're missing motivation and fostering a positive attitude about learning. "I have to go to training today" (instead of I want) #lrnchat
6:19:39 pm J_Schulz: @Quinnovator Learners have intelligence? I thought we had to lead them by the nose using Prev and Next buttons. Hmmm, … #lrnchat
6:19:50 pm jsuzcampos: Q2) Connections. #lrnchat
6:19:50 pm wlonline: Q2 can we involve pp we r training in learning design? #lrnchat
6:19:51 pm spotlearning: Q2) Meeting the learners where they are and apply enough passion to help them engage in the learning. #lrnchat
6:20:02 pm mglazer: & add to that the ability to see things from the audience's POV RT @kellygarber: Q2 passion for the experience #lrnchat
6:20:08 pm dpeter: Q2 We're missing time (to get the job done), patience (to learn to do it right) #lrnchat
6:20:16 pm kelly_smith01: RT @busynessgirl: Q2: missing motivation & fostering positive attitude about learning. "I have to go to training today" #lrnchat
6:20:29 pm media1der: I think formally trained tech writers CAN make excellent ISDs with coaching and ed in adult learning theory #lrnchat
6:20:30 pm allisunelearns: @lmardennh Not asking for early enough input into software usability? You described a lot of my life there :) #lrnchat
6:20:30 pm kelly_smith01: RT @spotlearning: Q2) Meeting the learners where they are and apply enough passion to help them engage in the learning. #lrnchat
6:20:32 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @wlonline: Q2 can we involve pp we r training in learning design? #lrnchat
6:20:42 pm jkunrein: RT @spotlearning: Q2) Meeting the learners where they are and apply enough passion to help them engage in the learning. #lrnchat
6:20:43 pm dpeter: RT @spotlearning: Q2) Meeting the learners where they are and apply enough passion to help them engage in the learning. #lrnchat YES YES YES
6:20:51 pm busynessgirl: Now sure what #lrnchat is, it's a 90=min conversation about learning. To join, search #lrnchat and add the hashtag in your tweets.
6:20:54 pm tmiket: Q2 Failing to learn FROM the learners #lrnchat
6:20:56 pm wlonline: @dpeter Could time be pressures from demands of management to get them done quicker? #lrnchat
6:21:04 pm SheSeeksHim: The venue for adult lrnrs to share their experience w/out "taking over the class" and a good facilitator to bring out the best #lrnchat
6:21:04 pm media1der: And I've had to let go more than one degreed ISD that could not write well. #lrnchat
6:21:21 pm wlonline: RT @tmiket: Q2 Failing to learn FROM the learners #lrnchat
6:21:24 pm gminks: isnt that part of the A in *****? RT @wlonline: Q2 can we involve pp we r training in learning design? #lrnchat
6:21:29 pm jsuzcampos: RT @dpeter: Q2 Were missing time (to get the job done), patience (to learn to do it right), & often #lrnchat
6:21:31 pm oxala75: @LearningPutty i fully support this tweet. #lrnchat
6:21:35 pm bschlenker: RT @spotlearning: Q2) Meeting the learners where they are and apply enough passion to help them engage in the learning. #lrnchat
6:21:35 pm moehlert: RT @busynessgirl: Now sure wht #lrnchat is, it’s a 90=min conversation abt learning. 2 join, search #lrnchat & add the hashtag in yr tweets.
6:21:38 pm kelly_smith01: Follow up with learning (when back on the job) to verify/clarify performance in question #lrnchat
6:21:44 pm busynessgirl: I think @dpeter just had a #lrnchat orgasm. YES YES YES #lrnchat
6:21:49 pm minutebio: RT @busynessgirl: Q2: missing motivation & fostering positive attitude about learning. “I have to gototrainingtoday Market benefits #lrnchat
6:21:53 pm Quinnovator: RT @tmiket: Q2 Failing to learn FROM the learners #lrnchat
6:21:58 pm jwillensky: RT @tmiket: Q2 Failing to learn FROM the learners #lrnchat
6:22:02 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @tmiket: Q2 Failing to learn FROM the learners #lrnchat
6:22:05 pm nancyrubin: How are you (are you) using avatars in elearning/training? What would you use for (not just to guide)? #lrnchat #lrnchat
6:22:13 pm bschlenker: RT @wlonline: Q2 can we involve pp we r training in learning design? #lrnchat
6:22:21 pm moehlert: RT @eduratireview: Curiosity: The Curricular Cinderella: By Flom, Ecology of EducationCuriously http://bit.ly/3ayIlh #lrnchat
6:22:26 pm dpeter: RT @wlonline: @dpeter Could time be pressures from demands of management to get them done quicker? #lrnchat – Maybe. Quicker is not better.
6:22:27 pm hashtager: # RT @busynessgirl: Now sure wht #lrnchat is, it’s a 90=min conversation abt learning. 2 join, search #lrnchat & add the hashtag in yr t..
6:22:37 pm oxala75: @busynessgirl our first When Harry Met Sally moment! #lrnchat
6:22:51 pm jkunrein: RT @JoanVinallCox: RT @tmiket: Q2 Failing to learn FROM the learners #lrnchat
6:22:57 pm moehlert: @busynessgirl Was that #lrnchat’s first one of those? #lrnchat
6:23:11 pm media1der: RT @bschlenker: RT @spotlearning: Q2) Meeting learners where they are and … passion to help them engage <— aka facilitation! #lrnchat
6:23:14 pm J_Schulz: @busynessgirl Is that considered an HR moment?? #lrnchat
6:23:16 pm littleasklab: RT @wlonline: Q2 can we involve pp we r training in learning design? #lrnchat – think this can be useful to incr. engagement & adoption
6:23:25 pm JoanVinallCox: @nancyrubin Using icons in assignments – non-verbal indicators #lrnchat
6:23:31 pm busynessgirl: @oxala75 How do you know it's the first? ;) #lrnchat
6:23:37 pm wlonline: @dpeter Acknowledge quicker is not better ; just mentioning about realities #lrnchat
6:23:38 pm littleasklab: RT @JoanVinallCox: RT @tmiket: Q2 Failing to learn FROM the learners #lrnchat
6:23:38 pm MariaOD: RT jwillensky RT @tmiket: Q2 Failing to learn FROM the learners #lrnchat<<we must listen and do needs analysis and measurement. Right on!
6:23:51 pm jsuzcampos: RT @dpeter @wlonline @dpeter Could time be pressures from demands of management to get them done quicker? #lrnchat
6:23:55 pm jkunrein: I’ll have what @dpeter’s having #lrnchat
6:24:10 pm kelly_smith01: Should “those” be on the drinking list? #lrnchat
6:24:14 pm kellygarber: @nancyrubin yes, to express emotions or other nonverbal cues back to facilitator #lrnchat
6:24:15 pm oxala75: @busynessgirl much like Harry, I haven’t a clue :) #lrnchat
6:24:16 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @busynessgirl: @oxala75 How do you know its the first? ;) #lrnchat
6:24:35 pm Quinnovator: @busynessgirl Um, TMI? #lrnchat
6:24:43 pm LearningPutty: @oxala75 Completely agree – lrng prof hardly have time to prepare lessons. It’s hard to also publish research too! But needed! #lrnchat
6:24:44 pm everyselearning: RT @spotlearning: Q2) Meeting learners where they are and … passion to help them engage (still don’t like that facilitation word) #lrnchat
6:24:47 pm tmiket: @busynessgirl Or that he wasn’t faking it? #lrnchat
6:24:49 pm nancyrubin: @JoanVinallCox We are using them in scenarios. Just worried about overuse when team gets a hold of something novel. #lrnchat
6:24:56 pm dpeter: OK, come on …. that was a hearty agreement! #lrnchat Where’s the passion? Where’s the excitement?
6:25:05 pm oxala75: @kelly_smith01 i would think so. #lrnchat
6:25:15 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @kelly_smith01: Should “those” be on the drinking list? Oh please;-> #lrnchat
6:25:23 pm rpannoni: I am so behind… and I haven’t even been playing the drinking game. #lrnchat
6:25:24 pm kelly_smith01: Improve learner feedback during/within e-learning #lrnchat
6:25:32 pm SheSeeksHim: So true Suz, any solutions for your observation other than becoming the boss/decision maker? #lrnchat
6:25:45 pm jkunrein: @dpeter We love it! :) #lrnchat
6:25:48 pm kasey428: Helping learner identify gaps & allowing them to develop their own learning plan for success. It should be about a learner’s needs. #lrnchat
6:25:51 pm chris_haddad: @lmardennh thought about hosting a wiki/forum/community and let customers help each other? #lrnchat
6:26:03 pm roninchef: @busynessgirl I think this was a bad night to invite my mom to #lrnchat
6:26:20 pm wlonline: Q2 does “training” need a new word in the workplace? #lrnchat
6:26:31 pm moehlert: RT @rpannoni: I am so behind… and I haven’t even been playing the drinking game. #lrnchat You can play catch up. Here…ADDIE!!
6:26:38 pm kelly_smith01: RT @SheSeeksHim: So true Suz, any solutions for your observation other than becoming the boss/decision maker? (heeheee) #lrnchat
6:26:49 pm stevenbrent: #lrngasm #lrnchat #lrnchat
6:26:49 pm Erick1970: RT @spotlearning: Q2) Meeting learners where they are and … passion to help them engage #lrnchat
6:26:52 pm allisunelearns: @chris_haddad We have a community for customers to help e/o, question is how to build/encourage activity. #lrnchat
6:26:58 pm kelly_smith01: RT @wlonline: Q2 does “training” need a new word in the workplace? #lrnchat
6:27:09 pm spotlearning: @rpannoni I have to drink coffee just to keep up with the tweet stream…but it’s coffee with a bite #lrnchat
6:27:12 pm jsuzcampos: RT @kasey428: Helping learners identify gaps & develop their own learning plan for success. It should be about a their needs. #lrnchat
6:27:13 pm everyselearning: Darn, I have to go. Real life calls! Cheers! #lrnchat
6:27:16 pm Quinnovator: @dpeter agreed, a continued resonance around the need to consider engagement #lrnchat
6:27:17 pm gminks: @chris_haddad @lmardennh we are doing that (community where learners can help each other) #lrnchat
6:27:18 pm dpeter: RT @wlonline: Q2 does “training” need a new word in the workplace? #lrnchat
6:27:19 pm moehlert: @lrnchat So how do we start addressing these skill gaps? Whose responsibility is it? #lrnchat
6:27:27 pm Erick1970: RT @kasey428: Helping learner identify gaps & allowing them to develop own plan for success. It should be about a learners needs. #lrnchat
6:27:29 pm busynessgirl: I always tell people that participating in #lrnchat is like getting high on learning. #lrnchat
6:27:29 pm media1der: @everyselearning Facilitate = make easier; help bring about. What’s wrong with that? #lrnchat
6:27:33 pm J_Schulz: @wlonline Oh please … no more new words!! We confuse people as it is. #lrnchat
6:27:35 pm gminks: hopefully we’ll be expanding that.. #lrnchat
6:27:42 pm jwillensky: My classically trained neighbor is singing opera while this is going on, which makes #lrnchat extra awesome.
6:28:02 pm busynessgirl: Okay, back to the question. Engagement, enthusiasm, motivation … these are really key. Without them, there’s no point. #lrnchat
6:28:08 pm dpeter: Q2 Training = development = learning = growth = collaborating #lrnchat
6:28:08 pm jwillensky: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @wlonline: Q2 does “training” need a new word in the workplace? #lrnchat
6:28:09 pm gminks: @allisunelearns you have to treat it like a garden, hard work up front #lrnchat
6:28:11 pm spotlearning: @kelly_smith01 Better yet, use social to let the learners add to the e-learning experience for all who follow. #lrnchat
6:28:16 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @busynessgirl: I always tell people that participating in #lrnchat is like getting high on learning. #lrnchat
6:28:16 pm tmiket: RT @busynessgirl: I always tell people that participating in #lrnchat is like getting high on learning. #lrnchat
6:28:16 pm joe_deegan: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @wlonline: Q2 does “training” need a new word in the workplace? (No…too many already!) #lrnchat
6:28:23 pm Quinnovator: @roninchef oh, c’mon, *everyone* is welcome, even your mum #lrnchat
6:28:41 pm moehlert: RT @J_Schulz: @wlonline Oh please … no more new words!! We confuse people as it is. #lrnchat Ditto
6:28:44 pm gminks: cheater!! RT @moehlert: RT @rpannoni: You can play catch up. Here…ADDIE!! #lrnchat
6:28:47 pm tmiket: @J_Schulz Agreed…I could do with LESS words well understood than vice versa #lrnchat
6:28:50 pm Abhinava: @lrnchat Q2) common sense… If we can make a model to simulate it…
6:29:11 pm Quinnovator: get a room RT @stevenbrent: #lrngasm #lrnchat
6:29:32 pm LearningPutty: How about this… we need the ability to change the perception of “training” from somethng bad to something good. #lrnchat
6:29:39 pm J_Schulz: @moehlert Good question. Does business even care (or know why they should)? If not, they won’t pitch in. #lrnchat
6:29:44 pm allisunelearns: Twitter in gen. does it 4 me RT @busynessgirl: I always tell people that participatng in #lrnchat is like getting high on learning. #lrnchat
6:29:52 pm Quinnovator: @moehlert well, I recommend they take my workshop ;) #lrnchat
6:29:55 pm kzenovka: RT @wlonline: Q2 does training need a new word in the workplace? #lrnchat learning maybe?
6:29:56 pm wlonline: RT @moehlert: RT @J_Schulz: @wlonline Oh please … no more new words!! We confuse people as it is. #lrnchat <– isn't this part of learning
6:30:08 pm kasey428: @wlonline The word training does bother me. I train my dog. I don't train people. Performance improvement event. 2 many words… #lrnchat
6:30:18 pm spotlearning: @J_Schulz Have you heard of blearning? Ask @bschlenker '-) #lrnchat
6:30:26 pm kelly_smith01: RT @LearningPutty: How about this… we need the ability 2 change the perception of "training" from somethng bad 2 something good. #lrnchat
6:30:35 pm media1der: good facilitator should be more like orchestra leader than talking head #lrnchat
6:30:43 pm wlonline: @moehlert What has happened to negotiating new meanings in learning, etc? #lrnchat
6:30:49 pm roninchef: @gminks Been seeing the garden analogy a lot lately. That and Rhizomatic learning. Pruning is crucial here. #lrnchat
6:30:55 pm tmiket: @wlonline Yes but not new words for old things…right? #lrnchat
6:31:07 pm stevenbrent: On-topic, sorta: http://bit.ly/rFvqH #lrnchat
6:31:13 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @media1der: good facilitator should be more like orchestra leader than talking head #lrnchat
6:31:28 pm kelly_smith01: After all it is the Chief Learning Officer not the Chief Training Officer #lrnchat
6:31:29 pm dpeter: b-learning, m-learning, e-learning … p-learning, c-learning #lrnchat
6:31:30 pm wlonline: RT @kasey428: the word training does bother me. I train my dog. I don't train people. #lrnchat
6:31:35 pm gminks: but sometimes all you need is training. Other times you need more — (education?) sometimes you need less (informal?) #lrnchat
6:31:37 pm kellygarber: it is training …do we make bad training better by changing the name? #lrnchat
6:31:39 pm jmarrapodi: Q2) Trends in the workplace called us Learning and Development. Now Talent Management (AAAACK) They still think of us as training. #lrnchat
6:31:42 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @roninchef: @gminks Been seeing the garden analogy a lot lately. That and Rhizomatic learning. Pruning is crucial here. #lrnchat
6:31:51 pm oxala75: @spotlearning 'blearning'? sounds like something one does after too much #lrnchat drinking game.
6:31:53 pm rpannoni: The skill I see missing in learning design is psychology – what makes people care; what makes people change. #lrnchat
6:31:53 pm nancyrubin: Are most people developing training classes? Anyone developing content for online universities? #lrnchat
6:31:59 pm mglazer: Perhaps that word is "money" ;-) Q2 does training need a new word in the workplace? #lrnchat
6:32:00 pm wlonline: @tmiket Not just change of word but the way it is done, too #lrnchat
6:32:06 pm gminks: @roninchef I've started saying you need to know how to bait the hook. Garden analogy is better though… #lrnchat
6:32:07 pm busynessgirl: RT @media1der: good facilitator should be more like orchestra leader than talking head. #lrnchat
6:32:09 pm jmarrapodi: Though HR isn't called "personnel" anymore. Wonder how long that took? #lrnchat
6:32:15 pm Erick1970: RT @tmiket: @wlonline Yes but not new words for old things…right? (let's stop doing this) #lrnchat
6:32:17 pm dpeter: RT @wlonline: @moehlert What has happened to negotiating new meanings in learning, etc? #lrnchat Hmm, interesting, negotiation?
6:32:23 pm moehlert: @wlonline My issue isn't with new meanings, it's w new buzzwords that could the real dynamics. I'd rather we pare down to the core #lrnchat
6:32:26 pm J_Schulz: @wlonline The people who pay us just want people to perform. It's all about learning and performance. Why complicate it? #lrnchat
6:32:38 pm spotlearning: RT @media1der: good facilitator should be more like orchestra leader than talking head #lrnchat Agreed…and the learners make the music.
6:32:42 pm allisunelearns: @nancyrubin I'm developing content for a community college's online program atm #lrnchat
6:32:44 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @rpannoni: The skill I see missing in learning design is psychology – what makes people care; what makes people change. #lrnchat
6:32:45 pm gminks: Garden is better because at first you have to plant, water mulch, wait, repeat — if you do THAT right you will have to prune :) #lrnchat
6:32:51 pm jsuzcampos: RT @nancyrubin: Are most people developing training classes? Anyone developing content for online universities? #lrnchat
6:32:59 pm jmarrapodi: Rhizomatic learning? #lrnchat
6:33:03 pm media1der: training semantics reminds me of words we use to describe races: we come up with new terms but never get at the core issues #lrnchat
6:33:06 pm kasey428: Work w/client to identify competencies & behaviors that demonstrate them. Design & develop specifically 4 organizational gaps. #lrnchat
6:33:12 pm busynessgirl: Just thinking here: “I have to go to training today” vs. “I have to go play today” … not quite the same, is it? #lrnchat
6:33:15 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @nancyrubin: Are most people developing training classes? Anyone developing content for online universities? for blended uni #lrnchat
6:33:24 pm wlonline: @moehlert this evening topic workplace learning not workplace training #lrnchat
6:33:28 pm bschlenker: RT @LearningPutty: How about this: we need the ability to change the perception of “training” from somethng bad 2 something good. #lrnchat
6:33:38 pm Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: After all it is the Chief Learning Officer not the Chief Training Officer #lrnchat
6:33:43 pm roninchef: @dpeter Are you doing kegstands tonight? Hardcore! #lrnchat
6:33:46 pm jsuzcampos: I wonder if the Army would rename Basic Training … #lrnchat
6:33:58 pm oxala75: RT @rpannoni The skill I see missing in learning design is psychology – what makes people care; what makes people change. #lrnchat
6:34:04 pm wlonline: @J_Schulz Problem is some places have replaced pp who train with “elearning” #lrnchat
6:34:04 pm kelly_smith01: Recall the “garden” anolog from Being There? #lrnchat
6:34:05 pm Quinnovator: @kellygarber no, but we don’t bring our full game if we only think of training #lrnchat
6:34:05 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @jmarrapodi: Rhizomatic learning? – George Seimens, I think. #lrnchat
6:34:21 pm media1der: RT @rpannoni: skill I see missing in learning design is psychology – what makes people care; what makes people change. RT @rpannoni what makes people care; what makes people change. #lrnchat
6:36:11 pm lrnchat: Q3) What are you seeing as positive trends and developments in learning design? #lrnchat
6:36:13 pm kzenovka: @jmarrapodi http://bit.ly/jtxov Innovate Online Article David Cormier #lrnchat but relates to Connectivism
6:36:14 pm jmarrapodi: @kasey428 HCM? Gov’t must have it’s acronyms. #lrnchat
6:36:15 pm tmiket: Me too. I do both RT @nancyrubin: training classes & developing content for online universities #lrnchat
6:36:20 pm SheSeeksHim: I think using personality profiling helps w/ the learner’s motivation as well as learning style. I agree that learning must be fun! #lrnchat
6:36:20 pm busynessgirl: For a while, we had choice of 3 trainings for seminar days on campus – only time faculty have been happy about attending. #lrnchat
6:36:30 pm dpeter: @busynessgirl Lack of choice? or lack of control? #lrnchat
6:36:40 pm J_Schulz: @wlonline “We” use ‘learning’ instead of ‘training’ to try to get past stigma. Learning is personal, training is performance, … #lrnchat
6:36:43 pm oxala75: Q3) the fact that informal learning is getting attention. #lrnchat
6:36:43 pm gminks: most ppl I know love to go to training. I don’t get the negative connotation thing… #lrnchat
6:36:44 pm jmarrapodi: @gminks Figures it would be George Siemens. Good stuff. #lrnchat
6:36:45 pm roninchef: @dpeter How hard is it to not laugh when you hear them? #lrnchat
6:36:55 pm jkunrein: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What are you seeing as positive trends and developments in learning design? #lrnchat
6:36:57 pm Quinnovator: @JoanVinallCox no, actually Dave Cormier. Siemens (& Downes) are connectivism, but they refer to Cormier #lrnchat
6:37:02 pm busynessgirl: Job satisfaction comes from autonomy, complexity, and relationship between effort and reward. What defines learning satisfaction? #lrnchat
6:37:02 pm MariaOD: RT JoanVinallCox RT @jmarrapodi: Rhizomatic learning? – George Seimens, I think. #lrnchat<<interesting need to read up on this-rhizomes=soMe
6:37:02 pm spotlearning: I'm studying "influence" now; it's not so much about training as selling, sometimes…to the learners and to the suite. #lrnchat
6:37:03 pm wlonline: @dpeter That was in relation to our chats about social learning #lrnchat
6:37:05 pm jmarrapodi: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What are you seeing as positive trends and developments in learning design? #lrnchat
6:37:11 pm nancyrubin: Talking about choice (learner), are scenarios an important part of your content? #lrnchat
6:37:22 pm mglazer: No, I think training is a tactic. The umbrella concept is larger. @jmarrapodi: Isn't training the umbrella concept? #lrnchat
6:37:34 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What are you seeing as positive trends and developments in learning design? #lrnchat
6:37:37 pm dpeter: Are we lifelong learners? or lifelong trainers? #lrnchat
6:37:46 pm kasey428: @oxala75 I nvr cottoned to the word cottoned. (: #lrnchat
6:37:46 pm J_Schulz: @wlonline What we really do is train or educate (based on situation), hoping they will learn and alter performance. #lrnchat
6:37:49 pm moehlert: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What are you seeing as positive trends and developments in learning design? #lrnchat
6:37:52 pm Erick1970: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What are you seeing as positive trends and developments in learning design? #lrnchat
6:37:53 pm gminks: q3 total contradiction for me: but that ppl want to figure out how to enable informal learning #lrnchat
6:37:54 pm tmiket: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What are you seeing as positive trends and developments in learning design? #lrnchat
6:37:59 pm Quinnovator: education versus training: which would you want your daughter to have in high school? #lrnchat
6:38:07 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @Quinnovator: @JoanVinallCox no, actually Dave Cormier. Siemens (& Downes) are connectivism, but refer 2 Cormier Right. Thanks! #lrnchat
6:38:08 pm chris_haddad: @gminks I like training b/c it usually means "no normal work" and "free food" – think that's the psychology? #lrnchat
6:38:15 pm media1der: "training" implies being bent to someone else's will; "learning" implies gaining knowledge & personal growth #lrnchat
6:38:16 pm minutebio: Positive trend – learners are much more tech saavy and adopting social media too #lrnchat
6:38:20 pm spotlearning: @moehlert @wlonline Tony O'Driscoll said 3 yrs ago that our biggest competitor was Google. Ppl will learn if they need to. #lrnchat
6:38:23 pm dpeter: @roninchef :) #lrnchat
6:38:26 pm Erick1970: @dpeter or both? #lrnchat
6:38:30 pm Quinnovator: er,,, sex education or sex training: which would you want your daughter to have in high school? #lrnchat
6:38:39 pm wlonline: @moehlert Though I do agree with ur POV about buzzwords – I don't like buzzword for its sake either. #lrnchat
6:38:41 pm mglazer: Q3) learning and developing business at the same time #lrnchat
6:38:47 pm nancyrubin: @Quinnovator More acceptance/interest in using blogs and wikis in the classroom. #lrnchat
6:38:53 pm joe_deegan: Positive Trend: using "Informal Learning" to back up "Formal Training." #lrnchat
6:38:56 pm oxala75: @kasey428 strangely, i have. #lrnchat #MyAncestorsDisapproveOfMyVerbalChoices
6:38:56 pm bschlenker: Q3) people are finally talking about new and social media as part of their learning solutions. #lrnchat
6:38:57 pm gminks: depends on what it is RT @Quinnovator: education versus training: which would you want your daughter to have in high school? #lrnchat
6:39:00 pm kellygarber: @Quinnovator imo, what we call it doesn't matter …putting a pretty bow on an empty box doesn't change the contents #lrnchat
6:39:01 pm SheSeeksHim: In our retail world, there is so much functional skills as well as leadership/soft skils. "Boring" vs. fun #lrnchat
6:39:06 pm busynessgirl: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What are you seeing as positive trends and developments in learning design? (uh oh, this Q involves optimism) #lrnchat
6:39:14 pm media1der: In a collaborative environment, our job is to facilitate learning #lrnchat
6:39:15 pm usablelearning: Training is too narrow a term, too – it's informal learning, job aids, better tools&sytems, embedded knowledge AND training #lrnchat
6:39:17 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @busynessgirl: Job satisfaction from