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Transcript #lrnchat 10th Anniversary

From April 11, 2019, Lrnchat’s 10th anniversary. Although the Twitter transcript tools we relied upon early on haven’t lasted, as a community, we have. To read from the beginning, start at the bottom. Like much of the work we all do, this was figured out on the fly.

8:32 PM
Marcia Conner @marciamarcia
#lrnchat was started by the people, for the people, so that the ego-maniacs in the industry didn’t co-opt a chat fo… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

8:32 PM
Dan Pontefract @dpontefract
@marciamarcia @Quinnovator Tempus Fugit. Love the #lrnchat … where it all started for me. ❤️

8:32 PM
TV @tv_vdp
@lrnchat #lrnchat remember that you will always be learning and sometimes it is hard to keep up. If you are passio… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

8:31 PM
Adam Weisblatt @weisblatt
Awrap) Adam Weisblatt Connecticut. Thanks everyone. #lrnchat

8:31 PM
Christine Kreger @kregerck
Well said! #lrnchat

8:30 PM
Adam Weisblatt @weisblatt
The people on this chat changed my life. Thank you. #lrnchat

8:30 PM
unfoll jgn mute @cherylsaraap
Hi, I’m Marcia marciamarcia, founder of #lrnchat, who truly loved hanging out with you tonight. I’m busy writing a… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

8:30 PM
Marcia Conner @marciamarcia
Hi, I’m Marcia @marciamarcia, founder of #lrnchat, who truly loved hanging out with you tonight. I’m busy writing a… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

8:30 PM
lrnchat @lrnchat
Thanks everyone for joining #lrnchat tonight. See you next week!

8:29 PM
Adam Weisblatt @weisblatt
Back to A0) I’ve learned over the past 10 years not to undervalue my creativity. instagram.com/weisblatta/ #lrnchat

8:29 PM
David Kelly #LSCon @LnDDave
This anniversary has me reflecting on how much has changed in ten years, and how truly important #lrnchat and the c… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

8:29 PM
Zsolt Olah @rabbitoreg
AWrap) Zsolt from Philly with Engage the WORL&D! — As a reminder: there’s a much bigger WOR besides L&D!! Go explore. #lrnchat

8:29 PM
urbie #shoestringARVR #arvrinedu #CUEnicorn @urbie
#LRNchat Thank you again @marciamarcia .. in life it’s too often we forget why we do something when we’ve been doin… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

8:29 PM
Clark Quinn @Quinnovator
aW) thanks to @marciamarcia to starting #lrnchat, to the many folks who’ve labored to keep it going, current organi… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

8:29 PM
lrnchat @lrnchat
We’d also like to thank each and everyone that comes out to #lrnchat to share your knowledge, work, inspirations, f… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

8:28 PM
Jennifer S. Murphy @DrJenMurphy
@lrnchat Awrap. Jen Murphy, very loud CEO of @TrainWithQIC #lrnchat

8:28 PM
Harold Jarche @hjarche
@lrnchat Shameless QWrap — jarche.com #lrnchat

8:28 PM
urbie #shoestringARVR #arvrinedu #CUEnicorn @urbie
g’night #LRNchat! I’m urbie, a learning experience designer (mostly broadcast video in support of clinician PD) fro… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

8:28 PM
JD @JD_Dillon
Thanks #lrnchat! Glad to be back on your anniversary. Thank you for EVERYTHING. Hopefully cya next week. Til then… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

8:28 PM
Clark Quinn @Quinnovator
Ax) some extra reading lists: blog.learnlets.com/2018/07/readin… blog.learnlets.com/2016/05/readin… blog.learnlets.com/2016/04/deeper… blog.learnlets.com/2016/04/revolu… #lrnchat

8:28 PM
lrnchat @lrnchat
We’d like to give @marciamarcia a big thank you for starting #lrnchat and a thank you as well for joining us tonigh… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

8:27 PM
lrnchat @lrnchat
QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat

8:26 PM
Marcia Conner @marciamarcia
@lrnchat Please make it #predictiveanalytics #bigdata #bemorethananexpert or #getoutside more. #lrnchat

8:25 PM
urbie #shoestringARVR #arvrinedu #CUEnicorn @urbie
#LRNchat A7a This.. it reminds me of someone who (near as I can tell) isn’t in tonight’s chat.. that instructional… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

8:25 PM
Harold Jarche @hjarche
@lrnchat A7) work collaboratively & learn cooperatively jarche.com/2019/04/workin… #lrnchat

8:25 PM
TV @tv_vdp
@lrnchat #lrnchat I am looking forward to checking out all the books that @hjarche mentioned, there looks like ther… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

8:24 PM
Zsolt Olah @rabbitoreg
A7) Long walks in nature… Books. People to follow. #lrnchat

8:24 PM
Marcia Conner @marciamarcia
The days of banking on how much you know are over or soon to be. Learn to be human. Please. #lrnchat… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

8:24 PM
Susan Genden, PhD @susangenden
A7) Time to review suggestions on books, blogs! #lrnchat

8:24 PM
Adam Weisblatt @weisblatt
A7) unlearnwithus.com #lrnchat

8:24 PM
Christine Kreger @kregerck
A7) Well now I have to go put a bunch of books on hold at the library – elearningindustry.com/learning-and-d… #lrnchat

8:23 PM
Tracy Parish @Tracy_Parish
That depends if you are in the room. 🙂 #lrnchat

8:22 PM
urbie #shoestringARVR #arvrinedu #CUEnicorn @urbie
#lrnchat A6a Don’t take yourself too seriously. You’re developing your brand from day one. “What do you want others… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

8:22 PM
Zsolt Olah @rabbitoreg
A6) Don’t take yourself too seriously. #lrnchat

8:22 PM
Adam Weisblatt @weisblatt
A7) Sometimes “half” is just the right amount of “assed” #lrnchat

8:22 PM
Jennifer S. Murphy @DrJenMurphy
@robertamedia You got this! Just remember you know more about your topic than anyone else in that room. #lrnchat

8:21 PM
Susan Genden, PhD @susangenden
@robertamedia Good luck! #lrnchat

8:21 PM
Clark Quinn @Quinnovator
@robertamedia Good luck! #lrnchat

8:20 PM
David Kelly #LSCon @LnDDave
A6) Put yourself out there. #lrnchat

8:20 PM
Roberta Dombrowski @robertamedia
Time for bed for this gal. I have my defense tomorrow. It’s been nice catching up with folks! #lrnchat

8:20 PM
Jennifer S. Murphy @DrJenMurphy
@JD_Dillon Amazing. Yeah you win @LnDDave #lrnchat pic.twitter.com/R3PaWkNy3e

8:19 PM
Zsolt Olah @rabbitoreg
A6) Listen. People deserve attention. #lrnchat

8:19 PM
Clark Quinn @Quinnovator
And repeat #lrnchat

8:19 PM
David Kelly #LSCon @LnDDave
I’m admittedly a bit concerned at how at the ready you were with this. #lrnchat

8:19 PM
Clark Quinn @Quinnovator
A6) do, review, refine. #lrnchat

8:19 PM
Christine Kreger @kregerck
A6) As my boss @CSLSharon frequently says shoot for better, not best! #lrnchat

8:19 PM
Zsolt Olah @rabbitoreg
A6) Respect the power of negative space. tangyauhoong.com/portfolio/the-… #lrnchat

8:18 PM
Adam Weisblatt @weisblatt
A6) Get connected! #lrnchat

8:17 PM
JD @JD_Dillon
@DrJenMurphy #lrnchat pic.twitter.com/fzbiLVstKM

8:17 PM
Tracy Parish @Tracy_Parish
So much of this! #lrnchat

8:17 PM
urbie #shoestringARVR #arvrinedu #CUEnicorn @urbie
#lrnchat A5a Stuff like this.. it’s a #sketch note from #tldc19 in January. I do this in meetings with clients all… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

8:17 PM
Susan Genden, PhD @susangenden
A6) Stay curious. Learning must never end. That’s the first thing. #lrnchat

8:16 PM
Mark Oehlert @moehlert
@Quinnovator @marciamarcia @tonykarrer I have a gif from the first #lrnchat pic.twitter.com/1DhK6imgVB

8:16 PM
TV @tv_vdp
@lrnchat A4) #lrnchat A4. A manager that guided me into a path of facilitation, training and now design as she saw… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

8:16 PM
Marcia Conner @marciamarcia
When starting #lrnchat I had a 4-yr-old who I put to bed before joining in. Now #boywonder is 14 and will be awake… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

8:16 PM
kphillips@pcsstn.com @kphillipspcsst1
@lrnchat A6. I am a new teacher myself, so I am open to any advice I can get. #lrnchat

8:15 PM
Christine Kreger @kregerck
A5) And more recently, I am honored anytime people ask me to collaborate with them! My happy place. #lrnchat

8:15 PM
Eric Davidove @edavidove
The latest The Future Learn Daily! paper.li/edavidove/futu… Thanks to @cami13 #lrnchat #pkmastery

8:15 PM
Jennifer S. Murphy @DrJenMurphy
@JD_Dillon #lrnchat pic.twitter.com/KaSwSq9dCZ

8:15 PM
Clark Quinn @Quinnovator
@kregerck Oy, I know that chairing conferences is a LOT of work, congrats! #lrnchat

8:14 PM
JD @JD_Dillon
Come on! You KNOW the answer is lighting a cigarette off the burning mouth of Penn Jillette!!! 😳 #lrnchat

8:13 PM
Matthew Barbercheck @JackOfAllLearnn
A5 Proud of trying and accomplishing 31 podcast episodes of anchor.fm/schoolshop #lrnchat

8:12 PM
Roberta Dombrowski @robertamedia
@Quinnovator Anyone who is able to write a book while also juggling other things is a master in my eyes #lrnchat

8:12 PM
urbie #shoestringARVR #arvrinedu #CUEnicorn @urbie
#lrnchat A4b Folk like this guy, @WickedDecent for introducing me to #rigourouswhimsy.. a new way of looking at lea… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

8:12 PM
Roberta Dombrowski @robertamedia
@JD_Dillon So much growth happens outside of your comfort zone #lrnchat

8:11 PM
Roberta Dombrowski @robertamedia
A5: Working full time while working on my masters degree, starting a new job, and recovering from a broken ankle 💪🏽 #lrnchat

8:11 PM
Clark Quinn @Quinnovator
@LnDDave That’s such BS! #lrnchat 🙂

8:11 PM
JD @JD_Dillon
A5) Leaving comfortable roles in order to grow and try new things – repeatedly #lrnchat

8:10 PM
Simon Blair @SimonBlairTrain
A5: Starting my blog Presenting at #DevLearn and (soon) #cdnelearning Participating in DemoFest #lrnchat

8:09 PM
Marcia Conner @marciamarcia
Another amazing recent read: Maze Master by @GearBooks amzn.to/2G6ylZt #lrnchat

8:09 PM
Roberta Dombrowski @robertamedia
@weisblatt @nickfloro I always loved hearing him speak at events. So engaging! #lrnchat

8:09 PM
Tracy Parish @Tracy_Parish
Yes, @tonykarrer was a big influence. #lrnchat

8:09 PM
urbie #shoestringARVR #arvrinedu #CUEnicorn @urbie
#LRNchat A4a For starters, this guy.. at an iPadPalooza event in Austin a while back I came this close to correctin… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

8:08 PM
Clark Quinn @Quinnovator
@marciamarcia @moehlert Ah, yes, @tonykarrer was the other, my email trace says! #lrnchat

8:07 PM
Zsolt Olah @rabbitoreg
A4) Also @stipton @kkapp @Sharon_Boller @cammybean @Quinnovator @WillWorkLearn @amyjokim @LnDDave @elearning #lrnchat

8:06 PM
Marcia Conner @marciamarcia
Fantastic recent reads >>> The Last by @Hanna_Jameson amzn.to/2G0MQh6 #lrnchat

8:05 PM
Zsolt Olah @rabbitoreg
A4) Long list of authors: elearningindustry.com/learning-and-d… Including @JaneBozarth who nagged me to try this #lrnchat

8:05 PM
word girl @gminks
a4) @marciamarcia @aaronesilvers @Quinnovator @hjarche @briandusablon @pollysquires so many more #lrnchat

8:04 PM
Marcia Conner @marciamarcia
Recently read 3 amazing speculative fiction books that I count as professional reading because they opened new parts of my brain. #lrnchat

8:04 PM
Adam Weisblatt @weisblatt
I’ve learned so much from @nickfloro Talk about drinking from the fire hose. I don’t know anyone who knows as much as Nick does. #lrnchat

8:04 PM
David Kelly #LSCon @LnDDave
A4) Admittedly @JaneBozarth. She was one of the first people, largely within #lrnchat, to see what I was sharing an… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

8:03 PM
urbie #shoestringARVR #arvrinedu #CUEnicorn @urbie
#LRNchat A3b Consider this #KidsDeserveIt snippet.. It’s a way different take on what learner centered is like. I g… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

8:03 PM
Zsolt Olah @rabbitoreg
A4) There’s not enough characters in a tweet… Everyone who’s not selling and scheming. #lrnchat

8:03 PM
Harold Jarche @hjarche
@lrnchat A4) No doubt, Jay Cross had a huge influence on my professional & personal life jarche.com/2015/11/farewe… #lrnchat

8:03 PM
Clark Quinn @Quinnovator
A3) for books, don’t let me forget @JaneBozarth’s Show Your Work! #lrnchat

8:03 PM
kphillips@pcsstn.com @kphillipspcsst1
A3. I love “No More Us and Them.” Its all about having an open-minded classroom that is free of judgement. #lrnchat

8:03 PM
Clark Quinn @Quinnovator
A3) blogs I like include that by @britz, @elearningcoach, @DonaldClark. There’s more, but… #lrnchat

8:02 PM
Tracy Parish @Tracy_Parish
And I’m excited that this continues to grow. #lrnchat

8:02 PM
JD @JD_Dillon
A4) Everyone on #lrnchat, especially those with whom I then connected in real life. Helped me realize just how big… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

8:02 PM
Christine Kreger @kregerck
A4) Oops…see my response to #3 🙂 #lrnchat

8:01 PM
Clark Quinn @Quinnovator
A3) Good books include those by @pattishank, @usablelearning’s Design For How People Learn, Make it Stick, Peak. #lrnchat

8:00 PM
Zsolt Olah @rabbitoreg
A3) People who spoke at the ATD ICE conference in San Diego 11 years ago. I made me think that maybe one day I could do that too. #lrnchat

8:00 PM
Christine Kreger @kregerck
A3) #lrnchat obviously! eLearning Heros, @ChristyATucker, @JaneBozarth, @CatMoore @hjarche and countless others wh… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

8:00 PM
urbie #shoestringARVR #arvrinedu #CUEnicorn @urbie
#LRNchat A3a Most influential book? A tie between Teach Like a Pirate by @dbc_inc & Kids Deserve It by… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

8:00 PM
Clark Quinn @Quinnovator
A3) two websites I like are Learning Solutions mag, and eLearn mag. Generally good articles. #lrnchat

8:00 PM
Jennifer S. Murphy @DrJenMurphy
@lrnchat A3. Speaking of books I hear @visualrinse has a new one out and he’s a pretty smart guy. 🤓📱👨‍💻🥽 #lrnamazon.com/dp/1947308807/…a8MWT

8:00 PM
Marcia Conner @marciamarcia
Is it wrong to admit I don’t spend much time reading websites or blogs these days? It’s time outside where life makes sense. #lrnchat

7:59 PM
word girl @gminks
twitter #lrnchat

7:58 PM
Zsolt Olah @rabbitoreg
A3) Influential? @CatMoore @avantgame stuff #lrnchat

7:58 PM
Marcia Conner @marciamarcia
@moehlert @quinnovator Waving. Happy 10th anniversary. And then a hearty how the hell did THAT happen?! #lrnchat

7:57 PM
Matthew Barbercheck @JackOfAllLearnn
A3 Most useful…. Book: Teaching What You Don’t Know /Blog: unlearnwithus.com @MrsRChambers /Website: Instagram #lrnchat

7:57 PM
Kim Maston @MrKMaston
@lrnchat A3) #lrnchat and the people who make it. It has changed my approach and awareness towards the what, how an… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

7:57 PM
Susan Genden, PhD @susangenden
A3) That’s easy. Marcia Conner’s was one!! #lrnchat

7:56 PM
Adam Weisblatt @weisblatt
A2) jarche.com, quinnovation.com, learngeek.co #lrnchat

7:56 PM
Clark Quinn @Quinnovator
A3) ok, informal learning wasn’t the last 10 years. Sorry (pro tip: read the question carefully :p ). #lrnchat

7:56 PM
Harold Jarche @hjarche
@lrnchat A3) Lots of influential books in my life over the past +10 years jarche.com/category/books/ #lrnchat

7:56 PM
Jennifer S. Murphy @DrJenMurphy
@lrnchat A3. Honestly social media although I know that sounds like a cop out answer. #lrnchat

7:55 PM
Tracy Parish @Tracy_Parish
I wish I had professionally moved on early to try more things/experiences/places of work #lrnchat

7:55 PM
JD @JD_Dillon
A3) Learning on Demand by @reubentozman + #lrnchat

7:54 PM
TV @tv_vdp
@lrnchat I learned while dog sitting that a Labrodoodle does shed hair and a lot of it. #lrnchat

7:54 PM
urbie #shoestringARVR #arvrinedu #CUEnicorn @urbie
#LRNchat A2a More of? I did some work for an LEO (Law Enforcement Officer) training organization.. my shtick was de… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

7:53 PM
David Kelly #LSCon @LnDDave
A2) also wish I had learned more about how to deal with an unplanned basement swimming pool. #Sandy #lrnchat

7:53 PM
Adam Weisblatt @weisblatt
A2) Wish I had taken more time to play #lrnchat

7:53 PM
Simon Blair @SimonBlairTrain
@kregerck I know that feeling! Rural internet is a handicap, but better than no internet at all (well, slightly better). #lrnchat

7:52 PM
Susan Genden, PhD @susangenden
A2) wish I’d presented more of my work instead of letting supvisors/mgrs. do it. #lrnchat

7:52 PM
Harold Jarche @hjarche
@lrnchat A2) I wish I had moved faster against the big consultancies #lrnchat

7:52 PM
Clark Quinn @Quinnovator
@weisblatt Yes, to thine own self be true (or so it’s been said 😉 #lrnchat

7:52 PM
urbie #shoestringARVR #arvrinedu #CUEnicorn @urbie
#LRNchat A1d Oh yeah! I remember now.. in ’09 I started a PhD program. That was a BIG mistake. Turns out they’re ha… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

7:52 PM
Christine Kreger @kregerck
This! 🙂 #lrnchat

7:51 PM
Christine Kreger @kregerck
A2) Risk taking…still have to force myself. #lrnchat

7:51 PM
Mark Oehlert @moehlert
@weisblatt @marciamarcia Happy to have helped in some little way Adam. Happy 10th Anniversary #lrnchat

7:51 PM
JD @JD_Dillon
A2) Wish I had done a few more jungle cruises 😜 #lrnchat

7:51 PM
urbie #shoestringARVR #arvrinedu #CUEnicorn @urbie
#LRNchat A1c In ’12 I had a chance to pick up a copy of @Articulate #Storyline for a song. I passed. I feel sometim… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

7:51 PM
Adam Weisblatt @weisblatt
A2) Wish I had not taken other people’s opinion of me so seriously. #lrnchat

7:50 PM
Clark Quinn @Quinnovator
@rabbitoreg Oh, but then you wouldn’t be the same person we’ve come to know and love! #lrnchat

7:50 PM
Marcia Conner @marciamarcia
@lrnchat A big mistake was moving so far from this community that I forgot how much you all have to teach me. Thank you. #lrnchat

7:50 PM
M. Bruce Abbott: eLearning Narrator / Voice Actor @mbruceabbott
A2b) and outsourced more. Can’t do everything yourself #lrnchat

7:50 PM
Clark Quinn @Quinnovator
A2) also wish I was better about breaking out of my introvert mode, and just talking more with colleagues #lrnchat

7:49 PM
Zsolt Olah @rabbitoreg
A2) I wish I had made more money. #lrnchat

7:48 PM
Jennifer S. Murphy @DrJenMurphy
@lrnchat A2. I wish I had learned to code something, anything. Not too late obviously. #lrnchat

7:48 PM
Adam Weisblatt @weisblatt
A2) I’m sorry that s work and life got more complicated I got lazy bout staying connected to the people I’ve met through #lrnchat

7:48 PM
Susan Genden, PhD @susangenden
Very true! Importance of #reflection-on-action #lrnchat

7:48 PM
M. Bruce Abbott: eLearning Narrator / Voice Actor @mbruceabbott
A2) spent too little time getting out and meeting people. Networking. Building Relationships. Needed to get out of the booth more #lrnchat

7:48 PM
Zsolt Olah @rabbitoreg
A2) I wish I had started building relationship outside of L&D earlier. Both in the business and online. #lrnchat

7:48 PM
JD @JD_Dillon
A2) escaped the corporate bubble and developed my own ideas and network much earlier #lrnchat

7:47 PM
urbie #shoestringARVR #arvrinedu #CUEnicorn @urbie
#LRNchat A1b Geez.. there’s been so many. Biggest???

7:46 PM
Jennifer S. Murphy @DrJenMurphy
@Tracy_Parish Same. I can’t think of one enormous catastrophic disaster like that, but 1000000 little ones. #lrnchat

7:46 PM
Roberta Dombrowski @robertamedia
@LnDDave This is such amazing insight! You’re such a huge advocate of people driving their own learning now. Amazing! #lrnchat

7:45 PM
urbie #shoestringARVR #arvrinedu #CUEnicorn @urbie
#LRNchat A1a Biggest #oopsie of the past 10 years, eh? 2009 – 2019.. #Pareto #chart time

7:45 PM
Marcia Conner @marciamarcia
Mindbending. #lrnchat

7:45 PM
Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth
@kregerck We need to pay more attention to that— #LRNchat

7:43 PM
Zsolt Olah @rabbitoreg
Thought that talent is enough. That eventually someone will show up and find you. Wrong. You make your own brand. #lrnchat

7:43 PM
Susan Genden, PhD @susangenden
A1) in an organization, the challenge of being a consultant rather than an order taker. #lrnchat

7:43 PM
Adam Weisblatt @weisblatt
A1) 10 years ago I lost my job and had not built up a network outside my company. I fell flat on my face. #lrnchat… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

7:43 PM
Marcia Conner @marciamarcia
And that. Wow. RT @Tracy_Parish: I learned that a new human species has been found. bit.ly/2X5JL6A #lrnchat

7:42 PM
Simon Blair @SimonBlairTrain
@JaneBozarth @cogdog @PhilOnEdTech The one with the limes and the British navy, right? #lrnchat

7:42 PM
Marcia Conner @marciamarcia
This wk @clarkeconner taught me abt Kugelblitz, converse of #blackholes. He’s been talking them up nonstop. j.mp/2G5dB4e #lrnchat

7:41 PM
Simon Blair @SimonBlairTrain
@robertamedia Definitely handy! Extracting meaning from data is important and (when not used for evil) very valuable. #lrnchat

7:41 PM
Roberta Dombrowski @robertamedia
@susangenden I’m intrigued. Any lessons learned you’d like to share? #lrnchat

7:41 PM
JD @JD_Dillon
A1) I settled. For all the wrong reasons. Backfired … But in a good way. Never settle. #lrnchat

7:41 PM
Adam Weisblatt @weisblatt
A01) I learned that yes human beings are really that stupid. #lrnchat

7:40 PM
Simon Blair @SimonBlairTrain
@mbruceabbott Idea for whom? I’d have thought it would vary with the individual, or is that an average? #lrnchat

7:40 PM
Jennifer S. Murphy @DrJenMurphy
@JaneBozarth @lrnchat Also that #Orlando and #Durham are about the same size population-wise #lrnchat

7:40 PM
Susan Genden, PhD @susangenden
A0) Learning more about Captivate and challenges of virtual, asynchronous teaching. #lrnchat

7:39 PM
Barbara Waxer 🏳️‍🌈 @barbarawaxer
I learned that tiny hard ear bones are a great source of DNA to do a genome of ancient humans and hominids #lrnchat

7:39 PM
Roberta Dombrowski @robertamedia
@JaneBozarth Hello my friend!! It’s good to see you too it’s been so long 🤗 #lrnchat

7:39 PM
Simon Blair @SimonBlairTrain
@robertamedia That sounds like a very handy skill! #lrnchat

7:39 PM
Zsolt Olah @rabbitoreg
Learned why gnomes have red point hats. #lrnchat

7:38 PM
Tracy Parish @Tracy_Parish
I learned that a new human species has been found. bit.ly/2X5JL6A #lrnchat

7:38 PM
Clark Quinn @Quinnovator
@DrJenMurphy @Tracy_Parish Or a doughnut #lrnchat

7:38 PM
Simon Blair @SimonBlairTrain
@Tracy_Parish And that the result looks like the Eye of Sauron. #lrnchat

7:38 PM
Jennifer S. Murphy @DrJenMurphy
@Tracy_Parish I also learned that a #blackhole looks a lot like #Uranus 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 #lrnchat

7:38 PM
Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth
@cogdog @PhilOnEdTech No the citrus story— #lrnchat

7:38 PM
M. Bruce Abbott: eLearning Narrator / Voice Actor @mbruceabbott
A0) I learned that 65db is the ideal listening level for listening to audio narration/learning on a computer. Who knew? #lrnchat

7:38 PM
Roberta Dombrowski @robertamedia
A0: This week I learned some more about how to blend qualitative and quantitative data to tell a story about what’s happening #lrnchat

7:38 PM
Tracy Parish @Tracy_Parish
I learned you need a really complex algorithm and a heck of a lot of memory to create a blackhole image. #lrnchat

7:37 PM
Jennifer S. Murphy @DrJenMurphy
@lrnchat A0. I learned today that #Houston is the 4th biggest city in the US with a population of 2.5 million people. #lrnchat

7:37 PM
Adam Weisblatt @weisblatt
A0) I learned that programming is just another one of the art forms I practice. #lrnchat

7:37 PM
Alan Levine @cogdog
@JaneBozarth @PhilOnEdTech Is that the sauerkraut story? #lrnchat #scurvychat

7:37 PM
lrnchat @lrnchat
Any first-time #lrnchatters tonight? Please say hi. Ask for help if you need it. #lrnchat

7:36 PM
Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth
@robertamedia Good to see you here again! #lrnchat

7:36 PM
Zsolt Olah @rabbitoreg
I learned that this song was never real… youtube.com/watch?v=TlWKrm… #lrnchat

7:35 PM
Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth
I learned about scurvy from @PhilOnEdTech. You had to be there… #lrnchat

7:35 PM
Marcia Conner @marciamarcia
@robertamedia That’s where the interesting conversations happen. #lrnchat

7:35 PM
Clark Quinn @Quinnovator
A0) tended to think of twitter as pointers, but realized it can be for convos, too! #lrnchat

7:35 PM
Marcia Conner @marciamarcia
These days I don’t wade in often enough here. Thx @janebozarth for inviting me to the party… and keeping it going. #trulygrateful #lrnchat

7:35 PM
David Kelly #LSCon @LnDDave
Greetings #lrnchat!

7:35 PM
Roberta Dombrowski @robertamedia
Hey #lrnchat it’s been a while👋🏾 Product manager at Pluralsight. Been working on a lot of learner interviews overtwitter.com/i/web/status/1…5X

7:35 PM
M. Bruce Abbott: eLearning Narrator / Voice Actor @mbruceabbott
Happy Birthday #lrnchat ! Cake and punch is on the back table

7:34 PM
Simon Blair @SimonBlairTrain
A0: I learned that @JaneBozarth‘s anniversary is the day before mine. #SmallWorld #lrnchat

7:34 PM
Adam Weisblatt @weisblatt
Thanks @marciamarcia for starting #lrnchat and thanks @moehlert for turning me on to it 9 years ago.

7:34 PM
Clark Quinn @Quinnovator
Clark Quinn, learning technology geek, author, consultant, speaker, genial miscontent #lrnchat

7:34 PM
lrnchat @lrnchat
Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat pic.twitter.com/LR92WE7o62

7:33 PM
Zsolt Olah @rabbitoreg
Hello @marciamarcia ! Thanks for starting a teenager. #lrnchat

7:33 PM
Marcia Conner @marciamarcia
@urbie Who could have predicted?! #lrnchat

7:33 PM
Christine Kreger @kregerck
Christine Kreger, librarian and trainer for the @COStateLibrary #lrnchat

7:33 PM
Jennifer S. Murphy @DrJenMurphy
@lrnchat #LRNCHAT pic.twitter.com/HOeKQ5Fzck

7:33 PM
Marcia Conner @marciamarcia
Still a gem! RT @hjarche: My first blog post discussing #lrnchat almost 10 years ago jarche.com/2009/06/learni…

7:33 PM
Simon Blair @SimonBlairTrain
@JackOfAllLearnn @lrnchat Glad you joined us! We’re strange, but mostly harmless here. #lrnchat

7:33 PM
Tracy Parish @Tracy_Parish
Time to join the #lrnchat party! pic.twitter.com/Z5ZfvZoo0E

7:32 PM
Zsolt Olah @rabbitoreg
Hello #lrnchat! Zsolt from Philly. Currently collecting 99 JavaScript examples rabbitoreg.com/examples/p99/#/ .

7:32 PM
urbie #shoestringARVR #arvrinedu #CUEnicorn @urbie
Kudos @MarciaMarcia for making #LRNchat happen!

7:32 PM
JD @JD_Dillon
Howdy #lrnchat. It’s been a while. JD in Orlando, FL. LearnGeek, Axonifier, writer, speaker, sharer. Today is my 9t… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

7:32 PM
Adam Weisblatt @weisblatt
Aintro) Adam Weisblatt – Learning Technologist from Connecticut. Creating widgets for filling in the holes in learning experiences. #lrnchat

7:32 PM
Harold Jarche @hjarche
My first blog post discussing #lrnchat almost 10 years ago jarche.com/2009/06/learni…

7:32 PM
Marcia Conner @marciamarcia
@Quinnovator How time flies. #lrnchat

7:32 PM
Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth
@JackOfAllLearnn @lrnchat Welcome to #lrnchat!

7:32 PM
Marcia Conner @marciamarcia
Welcome @JackOfAllLearnn !!! I love hearing people are trying this venue for the first time. #lrnchat

7:32 PM
Clark Quinn @Quinnovator
Dropping in on #lrnchat for the 10th anniversary. I was there at the beginning, at the instigation of @marciamarcia… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

7:32 PM
lrnchat @lrnchat
Please give a big virtual thanks to Marcia Conner for being here this evening and for starting #lrnchat 10 years ag… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

7:31 PM
Matthew Barbercheck @JackOfAllLearnn
@lrnchat First #lrnchat for me. Happy 10th birthday!

7:31 PM
lrnchat @lrnchat
Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat

7:30 PM
lrnchat @lrnchat
Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been? Did I tell you yet that it’s my birthday? I’m 10. pic.twitter.com/N2q1ndQQC6

Transcript – October 2: How Social media enables/prevents your ability to learn

8:41 PM shalineemattoo A0) I learned rather thought Rubrics are a cheatsheet..your assignment should have complete success criteria #lrnchat
8:41 PM Quinnovator a0) learned how to take a pic with my laptop 😉 #lrnchat
8:41 PM lrnchat Q1) When/why do you decide to interact with someone new on social media? #lrnchat
8:41 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q1) When/why do you decide to interact with someone new on social media? #lrnchat
8:41 PM weisblatt RT @lrnchat Q1) When/why do you decide to interact with someone new on social media? #lrnchat
8:41 PM tomspiglanin Evening, all. Tom joining from hot So. Calif. And good day to my friends in Oz. #lrnchat
8:41 PM JD_Dillon RT @lrnchat Q1) When/why do you decide to interact with someone new on social media? #lrnchat
8:41 PM rhappe @dreid63 I love Nancy Duarte’s work – great resource #lrnchat
8:41 PM urbie #lrnchat A0 Thanks to @christycate this week i learned a bit about transitioning to a K-12 educator role in Texas.. http://t.co/iT9rVQIgPQ
8:42 PM kmarranzino RT @lrnchat: Q1) When/why do you decide to interact with someone new on social media? #lrnchat
8:42 PM JaneBozarth RT @weisblatt RT @lrnchat Q1) When/why do you decide to interact with someone new on social media? #lrnchat
8:42 PM SheilaS A0. I’ve re-learned that regular exercise helps to keep me sane. #lrnchat
8:42 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q1) When/why do you decide to interact with someone new on social media? #lrnchat
8:42 PM TejasTPatel @lrnchat A1) When I can learn from them or add value to the conversation or their needs #lrnchat
8:42 PM JD_Dillon A1) Shared interest … #lrnchat
8:42 PM weisblatt Q1) I connect with someone new if I can learn from them. #lrnchat
8:42 PM JD_Dillon A1) I need information. They have it. #lrnchat
8:42 PM Tracy_Parish A1) Easy, they either are in the pursuit of the same knowledge/idea as me or one that I want to know more about #lrnchat
8:42 PM ryantracey RT @TejasTPatel: @lrnchat A1) When I can learn from them or add value to the conversation or their needs #lrnchat
8:42 PM tomspiglanin Today (re)learned I make a difference. It’s important to stay the course. #sociallearning rocks. #lrnchat
8:42 PM LnDDave RT @lrnchat: Tonight’s topic: How your use of social media enables/prevents learning through use of social media. #lrnchat
8:42 PM JaneBozarth q1 Depends. Esp interested in people who want to talk LEARNING, not TRAINING. oh look #lrnchat
8:42 PM anicole87 Will miss you #lrnchat’ers but need to run some errands tonight in the midst of all my unpacking! Have fun!
8:42 PM Quinnovator a1) when there’s something I can offer or something I can gain #lrnchat
8:43 PM JaneBozarth @anicole87 Miss you back. Enjoy your new digs. #lrnchat
8:43 PM AjayPangarkar A1) exhibit A: try doing a live #lrnchat at this pace, nobody would get a word in edgwise
8:43 PM AdamTilted A1) If someone says something that resonates, I usually reach out. 2 of 10 interactions turn into something. #lrnchat
8:43 PM tomspiglanin RT @lrnchat: Q1) When/why do you decide to interact with someone new on social media? #lrnchat
8:43 PM willconstantine Q1) the topics they talk about interest me. #lrnchat
8:43 PM SteveSwinkTN A0) learned my new car has an umbrella holster in the door. 😉 #lrnchat
8:43 PM Tracy_Parish A1) Similar sense of humour is a great social gatherer #lrnchat
8:43 PM srLeoSalazar . @ChayneDaisy And here I thought I’d be the only one from Europe! #lrnchat
8:43 PM nancyrubin A1) when they ask questions, post interesting content, seem like someone I want in my network #lrnchat
8:43 PM WonderPix A1) When I think we can learn and/or share ideas. Or if they seem interesting 😉 #lrnchat
8:43 PM gminks RT @lrnchat: Tonight’s topic: How your use of social media enables/prevents learning through use of social media. #lrnchat
8:43 PM dreid63 Social media enables spontaneous connection – sharing of information (current articles/research, question form, learner support. #lrnchat
8:43 PM Quinnovator a1) when someone engages *me* #lrnchat
8:43 PM ryantracey A1) When I want another opinion. #lrnchat
8:43 PM weisblatt A1) If I can provide value to them or if they have interesting things to share. #lrnchat
8:43 PM JD_Dillon A1) When they tell me how I can make $2000 a week by working from home … #lrnchat
8:43 PM MaryGMSEd “@Quinnovator: a1) when there’s something I can offer or something I can gain #lrnchat” This
8:43 PM JaneBozarth q1 Humor, references to evidence or new reading, view not quite same, bit o’ snark. #lrnchat
8:43 PM Dan_Jacques_LD A1) I interact when I require information, want to express myself or respond to something that I am passionate about #lrnchat
8:43 PM rhappe Q1) Something piques my interest – what they share, their profile, who they are talking to #lrnchat
8:44 PM brunowinck A1) When I want to say that I learned something from them #giveback #lrnchat
8:44 PM willconstantine Q1) conferences, need to learn something, varies perspectives, #lrnchat
8:44 PM Tracy_Parish @JD_Dillon HA! Nice. #lrnchat. How’s that going for you.
8:44 PM srLeoSalazar RT @lrnchat: Q1) When/why do you decide to interact with someone new on social media? #lrnchat
8:44 PM LnDDave RT @lrnchat: Q1) When/why do you decide to interact with someone new on social media? #lrnchat
8:44 PM nancyrubin RT @dreid63: Social media enables spontaneous connection – sharing of information (current articles/research, question form, learner suppor…
8:44 PM weisblatt A1) When they see something I haven’t #lrnchat
8:44 PM dreid63 @rhappe I’m learning so much Rachel.#lrnchat
8:44 PM AjayPangarkar A1) communicate to a group larger than 1 – facilitates the process #lrnchat
8:44 PM everlearningnow A1) usually have a question and use twitter vs. email #lrnchat
8:44 PM kmarranzino A1) Already know them, or respect them, or share a common interest, or based on recommendation from someone I do know & respect. #lrnchat
8:44 PM JaneBozarth q1 someone w really interesting/different experience. Teaching English in China. Desiging environments for people on the spectrum #lrnchat
8:44 PM JD_Dillon @Tracy_Parish Slow … I have a feeling something’s up … #lrnchat
8:44 PM amcunningham @lrnchat q1 I see them say something interesting, or someone I know mentions them or shares a link to their work #lrnchat
8:44 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Tonight’s topic: How your use of social media enables/prevents learning through use of social media. #lrnchat
8:44 PM JustStormy RT @lrnchat: Q1) When/why do you decide to interact with someone new on social media? #lrnchat
8:44 PM tomspiglanin A1) Interact with #SoMe network daily. It’s about relationships, not need. We’re there for each other when needed. #lrnchat
8:44 PM JaneBozarth RT @weisblatt A1) When they see something I haven’t #lrnchat <YES THAT
8:44 PM SheilaS A1. I’m starting to be more deliberate in connecting on social w/those who are NOT in my field….sorry, marketers. 🙂 #lrnchat
8:44 PM weisblatt A1) When someone I respect, respects them. #lrnchat
8:44 PM willconstantine @JD_Dillon and give you your horoscope BONUS! #lrnchat
8:45 PM Tracy_Parish A1) Certainly when I reach out for and answer and someone has it. I follow, they usually have more to teach. #lrnchat
8:45 PM everlearningnow A1) when there is something interesting to add to their post / tweet #lrnchat
8:45 PM Quinnovator RT @weisblatt: A1) When they see something I haven’t #lrnchat
8:45 PM AdamTilted +1 snark RT @JaneBozarth
q1 Humor, references to evidence or new reading, view not quite same, bit o’ snark. #lrnchat
8:45 PM JaneBozarth @SheilaS @jseelybrown advises to “Expand your surface area”. That’s one way. #lrnchat
8:45 PM ozbecky “@WonderPix: A1) When I think we can learn and/or share ideas. Or if they seem interesting 😉 #lrnchat” Me too!
8:45 PM ryantracey RT @weisblatt: A1) When someone I respect, respects them. #lrnchat
8:45 PM SteveSwinkTN A1) when they post intriguing, relevant information. 😉 #lrnchat
8:45 PM rhappe RT @SheilaS: A1. I’m starting to be more deliberate in connecting on social w/those who are NOT in my field….sorry, marketers. 🙂 #lrnchat
8:45 PM JD_Dillon RT @ryantracey RT @weisblatt: A1) When someone I respect, respects them. #lrnchat
8:45 PM TejasTPatel A1) When I can sense similar values or purpose/ When I need a different perspective #lrnchat
8:45 PM srLeoSalazar A1) I follow when someone offers value. Of course everyone needs to define for themselves what “value” means. #lrnchat
8:45 PM Tracy_Parish RT @TejasTPatel: A1) When I can sense similar values or purpose/ When I need a different perspective #lrnchat
8:45 PM JustStormy a1) must be interesting, smart, and incredibly sarcastic #lrnchat
8:45 PM willconstantine Q1) also if you’re a comedian #lrnchat
8:45 PM Quinnovator @JD_Dillon first I need your bank account number to deposit the money… #lrnchat
8:45 PM JaneBozarth @ChayneDaisy @JustRogering @netflix don’t forget the #lrnchat tag. I like http://t.co/VfqEHNEsXW for help w that.
8:45 PM AjayPangarkar A1) use it but don’t have like it…takes the “social” out social media, in person/voice always preferred #lrnchat
8:45 PM LnDDave A1) the referral of someone I know. #lrnchat
8:45 PM JD_Dillon A1) When they share something I never would have previously considered – can’t just play with people who agree with me #lrnchat
8:45 PM LnDDave RT @JD_Dillon: A1) I need information. They have it. #lrnchat
8:45 PM nancyrubin RT @JD_Dillon: RT @ryantracey RT @weisblatt: A1) When someone I respect, respects them. #lrnchat
8:46 PM Quinnovator RT @LnDDave: A1) the referral of someone I know. #lrnchat < !
8:46 PM rhappe @SheilaS I have a Twitter list called ‘Think Differently’ for the same reason #lrnchat
8:46 PM JaneBozarth I love when MrDrJane says, “Do you have #lrnchat tonight?”
8:46 PM JD_Dillon @Quinnovator I didn’t know you were the new prince of Nigeria … #lrnchat
8:46 PM ryantracey A2) When I see they engage in conversation, rather than talk “at” you. #lrnchat
8:46 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q1) When/why do you decide to interact with someone new on social media? #lrnchat
8:46 PM cherylannmc A1 – I am most interested when someone has a unique point of view, different than what I know or typically hear #lrnchat
8:46 PM MaryGMSEd A1) When we have similar acquaintances and/or interests. #lrnchat
8:46 PM weisblatt @rhappe @SheilaS My Twitter List is called Retweetables #lrnchat
8:46 PM TejasTPatel @rhappe @SheilaS and I maintain a list called “Thinkers” #lrnchat
8:46 PM dreid63 If they post interesting content, are in a related career circle, demonstrate the rules of social engagement online. #lrnchat
8:46 PM Tracy_Parish a1) When they are a participant of chats that I participate in as well. #lrnchat [wink wink] (similar interests)
8:46 PM everlearningnow A1) they don’t work in L and D #lrnchat
8:46 PM fugu13 A1) When they offer a perspective I have less access to #lrnchat
8:46 PM weisblatt RT @Tracy_Parish a1) When they are a participant of chats that I participate in as well. #lrnchat [wink wink] (similar interests)
8:46 PM JaneBozarth RT @fugu13 A1) When they offer a perspective I have less access to #lrnchat
8:46 PM TejasTPatel RT @fugu13: A1) When they offer a perspective I have less access to #lrnchat
8:46 PM weisblatt RT @JaneBozarth RT @fugu13 A1) When they offer a perspective I have less access to #lrnchat
8:47 PM rhappe A1) I tend to like people who make unexpected connections between things – and observe something new as a result of that connection #lrnchat
8:47 PM shalineemattoo A1) when I buy/sell/rent things..when I like someone’s curated page..or seek info..or reply to a query #lrnchat
8:47 PM ChayneDaisy #lrnchat A1 To learn & engage with/from L&D professionals #lrnchat
8:47 PM WonderPix RT @Tracy_Parish: a1) When they are a participant of chats that I participate in as well. #lrnchat [wink wink] (similar interests)
8:47 PM JaneBozarth We have LOTS of new folks tonight. Don’t let us lose you in the stream. We’ll ask for more info about you as we wrap. #lrnchat
8:47 PM lrnchat Q2) What makes someone credible/interesting online? #lrnchat
8:47 PM tomspiglanin A1) I’ll interact with nearly anyone who wants to engage and not lurk #lrnchat
8:47 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat Q2) What makes someone credible/interesting online? #lrnchat
8:47 PM JD_Dillon RT @lrnchat Q2) What makes someone credible/interesting online? #lrnchat
8:47 PM weisblatt RT @lrnchat Q2) What makes someone credible/interesting online? #lrnchat
8:47 PM Quinnovator RT @ChayneDaisy: #lrnchat A1 To learn & engage with/from L&D professionals #lrnchat < and others in related field but *not* L&D
8:47 PM JustStormy a1) must have superpowers #lrnchat
8:47 PM Tracy_Parish A1) When they are Darth Vader @DepressedDarth #lrnchat
8:47 PM tomspiglanin RT @JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat Q2) What makes someone credible/interesting online? #lrnchat
8:47 PM gminks Q1) if it comes across my stream and I can contribute to the conversation #lrnchat
8:47 PM JaneBozarth q2 when they don’t mention learning styles? #lrnchat
8:47 PM DrJimboNHS RT @amcunningham: Not going to have time for all of #lrnchat but wonder what participants think of this… http://t.co/Slv2h6nDGr
8:47 PM rhappe @TejasTPatel @SheilaS I also have one called ‘Givers of Good Tweet’ but that’s less learning, more fun 🙂 #lrnchat
8:47 PM brunowinck good Ques RT @lrnchat: Q2) What makes someone credible/interesting online? #lrnchat
8:47 PM weisblatt Q2) They add context to what they share. #lrnchat
8:47 PM kmarranzino RT @TejasTPatel: RT @fugu13: A1) When they offer a perspective I have less access to #lrnchat
8:47 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q2) What makes someone credible/interesting online? #lrnchat
8:47 PM John_Gravitt A1, When they are transparent, human, and interesting. I’m also a sucker for common geekiness. #lrnchat
8:47 PM JD_Dillon A2) I lean on my PLN to help certify credibility for new contacts. #lrnchat
8:48 PM Tracy_Parish Oh that’s a great point Gina. RT @gminks: Q1) if it comes across my stream and I can contribute to the conversation #lrnchat
8:48 PM kmarranzino RT @lrnchat: Q2) What makes someone credible/interesting online? #lrnchat
8:48 PM Quinnovator @JD_Dillon the Prince formerly known as Artist #Lrnchat
8:48 PM brunowinck Learning strategies may be ? RT @JaneBozarth: q2 when they don’t mention learning styles? #lrnchat
8:48 PM SheilaS @rhappe Good idea! #lrnchat
8:48 PM everlearningnow A2) who they know / what they share #lrnchat
8:48 PM JD_Dillon A2) Interesting = engages in the conversation and doesn’t just agree to be part of the group #lrnchat
8:48 PM willconstantine Q2) that they provide new fresh perspectives but know what they are talking about #lrnchat
8:48 PM nancyrubin RT @John_Gravitt: A1, When they are transparent, human, and interesting. I’m also a sucker for common geekiness. #lrnchat
8:48 PM tomspiglanin A2) Credibility is usually tied to integrity. Are people who they say they are? Do they mean what they ‘say’? #lrnchat
8:48 PM shalineemattoo @JustStormy hahah I loved your pun #lrnchat
8:48 PM AjayPangarkar a2) when they can provide substance and evidence of fact, not blow a lot of hot air (everything on the net is true 😉 ) #lrnchat
8:48 PM JaneBozarth RT @willconstantine Q2) that they provide new fresh perspectives but know what they are talking about #lrnchat
8:48 PM fugu13 A2) strong opinions tempered by an open perspective #lrnchat
8:48 PM ryantracey A2) Actually my “A2” typo still holds – A2) When I see they engage in conversation, rather than talk “at” you. #lrnchat
8:48 PM willconstantine Q2) a “verified” Twitter account. #lrnchat
8:48 PM urbie #lrnchat A1 When I come across something interesting I reflect on it for a minute. I reply, retweet or modify the tweet if it resonates.
8:48 PM TejasTPatel @lrnchat honesty, transparency and domain knowledge is a good starting point for me #lrnchat
8:48 PM AjayPangarkar RT @tomspiglanin: A2) Credibility is usually tied to integrity. Are people who they say they are? Do they mean what they ‘say’? #lrnchat
8:48 PM srLeoSalazar Added! >>> “@JD_Dillon: A1) When they tell me how I can make $2000 a week by working from home … #lrnchat”
8:48 PM tomspiglanin A2) Nothing raises my eyebrows more than blatant manipulation. #lrnchat
8:49 PM JD_Dillon A2) The answer is NOT number of followers … just sayin’ … #lrnchat
8:49 PM rhappe @dreid63 I’m a bit of a slide jockey so she speaks my language, as they say #lrnchat
8:49 PM AdamTilted A2) Adding something to a conversation, not just reposting what others say. #lrnchat
8:49 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q2) What makes someone credible/interesting online? #lrnchat
8:49 PM ryantracey RT @AjayPangarkar: a2) when they can provide substance and evidence of fact, not blow a lot of hot air (everything on the net is true 😉 ) …
8:49 PM LnDDave A1) sometimes I just invite new contacts by openly asking a question to anyone. #lrnchat
8:49 PM JustRogering @JaneBozarth @ChayneDaisy oops had the @ but for got the # #lrnchat
8:49 PM WonderPix A2) They have something to say and do so cleverly. Good profile helps. #lrnchat
8:49 PM JaneBozarth RT @AdamTilted A2) Adding something to a conversation, not just reposting what others say. #lrnchat
8:49 PM fugu13 A2, alternative) also, pictures of ponies (*waves at @seriouspony*) #lrnchat
8:49 PM LnDDave RT @ryantracey: A1) When I want another opinion. #lrnchat
8:49 PM weisblatt A1) When its clear that they get a kick out of their domain of interest. #lrnchat
8:49 PM willconstantine Q2) oh yea and @EmegencyKitten #lrnchat
8:49 PM kmarranzino A2) Thoughtful responses. Unique point of view. Respectful of opposing points of view (not a troll). #lrnchat
8:49 PM JaneBozarth Excellent. Yes. RT @weisblatt A1) When its clear that they get a kick out of their domain of interest. #lrnchat
8:49 PM JD_Dillon A2) If they’re interesting and credible in person … #lrnchat
8:49 PM JaneBozarth RT @kmarranzino A2) Thoughtful responses. Unique point of view. Respectful of opposing points of view (not a troll). #lrnchat
8:49 PM vpsingh RT @rhappe: A1) I tend to like people who make unexpected connections between things – and observe something new as a result of that connec…
8:49 PM brunowinck A2) You need some tweets to make your mind, it seems sounded, authentic, informative #lrnchat
8:49 PM ryantracey RT @JaneBozarth: RT @AdamTilted A2) Adding something to a conversation, not just reposting what others say. #lrnchat
8:49 PM AjayPangarkar RT @kmarranzino: A2) Thoughtful responses. Unique point of view. Respectful of opposing points of view (not a troll). #lrnchat
8:49 PM willconstantine @JD_Dillon it’s the level of ENGAGEMENT #lrnchat
8:49 PM Quinnovator a2) when they are authentic and worthwhile #Lrnchat
8:49 PM SheilaS @TejasTPatel @rhappe @weisblatt I like to mix the occasional “out there” voice into my Key Tweeps List, which I track closely. #lrnchat
8:50 PM JaneBozarth RT @Quinnovator a2) when they are authentic and worthwhile #Lrnchat
8:50 PM LnDDave RT @JaneBozarth: q1 Humor, references to evidence or new reading, view not quite same, bit o’ snark. #lrnchat
8:50 PM nancyrubin A2) interesting, authentic, funny, intelligent, like all of you 😁 #lrnchat
8:50 PM lopta What’s a #lrnchat?
8:50 PM AdamTilted @JaneBozarth I should’ve expected that 😉 #lrnchat
8:50 PM JustStormy RT @lrnchat: Q2) What makes someone credible/interesting online? #lrnchat
8:50 PM MaryGMSEd “@AdamTilted: A2) Adding something to a conversation, not just reposting what others say. #lrnchat” I just had to do that. #lrnchat
8:50 PM kelly_smith01 Q2) When they show (or provide links or resources) to showing rather than telling #lrnchat
8:50 PM ryantracey Amen. RT @kmarranzino A2) Thoughtful responses. Unique point of view. Respectful of opposing points of view (not a troll). #lrnchat
8:50 PM JD_Dillon A2) If they share photos of shiba inus, they’re automatically interesting … #lrnchat
8:50 PM nancyrubin RT @weisblatt: A1) When its clear that they get a kick out of their domain of interest. #lrnchat
8:50 PM JustStormy a2) they don’t SPAM you #lrnchat
8:50 PM rhappe A2) For me, credibility accrues over time – and it requires both saying thoughtful things and interacting (being social/curious) #lrnchat
8:50 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q2) What makes someone credible/interesting online? #lrnchat
8:50 PM cherylannmc RT @rhappe: A1) I tend to like people who make unexpected connections between things – and observe something new as a result of that connec…
8:50 PM kelly_smith01 RT @JaneBozarth: RT @Quinnovator a2) when they are authentic and worthwhile #Lrnchat
8:50 PM tomspiglanin A2) Someone who stimulates new thought, not an echo chamber #lrnchat
8:50 PM WonderPix RT @nancyrubin: A2) interesting, authentic, funny, intelligent, like all of you 😁 #lrnchat
8:50 PM shalineemattoo @JaneBozarth @lrnchat a2) virtual identity you can verify across different sites. #lrnchat
8:50 PM JD_Dillon A2) They don’t try to sell me anything … #lrnchat
8:50 PM Quinnovator a2) when they have a unique and credible point of view #lrnchat
8:50 PM SheilaS When they talk to folks & don’t just squirt out links. RT @lrnchat: Q2) What makes someone credible/interesting online? #lrnchat
8:50 PM LnDDave RT @lrnchat: Q2) What makes someone credible/interesting online? #lrnchat
8:51 PM dreid63 Q2) Content that interests them is new to me, their job (I follow a lot of journalists), engage in meaningful (conversational) way. #lrnchat
8:51 PM brunowinck yes RT @kmarranzino A2) Thoughtful responses. Unique point of view. Respectful of opposing points of view (not a troll). #lrnchat
8:51 PM AjayPangarkar A2) no need for blowhards…need those that’re open, genuine, interesting, & willing to listen/interact, ya’know, good smart peeps #lrnchat
8:51 PM weisblatt RT @tomspiglanin A2) Someone who stimulates new thought, not an echo chamber > I like that Tom (echo echo) #lrnchat
8:51 PM JD_Dillon A2) They can answer the question WHY? #lrnchat
8:51 PM sealizis When they are interested in something bigger than promoting themselves. Takes an interest in what others have to say/ask. #lrnchat
8:51 PM JustStormy RT @JaneBozarth: We have LOTS of new folks tonight. Don’t let us lose you in the stream. We’ll ask 4 more info about u as we wrap. #lrnchat
8:51 PM gminks RT @ryantracey: A1) When I want another opinion. #lrnchat
8:51 PM John_Gravitt A2, I respect believable social proof. Show me someone credible who has benefited from their product or idea. #lrnchat
8:51 PM stipton A2) The ability to make me laugh, they share stories & offer intersting perspectives & encourage healthy debate. #LRNchat
8:51 PM weisblatt RT @JD_Dillon A2) They can answer the question WHY? >Yes #lrnchat
8:51 PM srLeoSalazar RT @JustStormy: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What makes someone credible/interesting online? #lrnchat
8:51 PM JaneBozarth RT @dreid63 Q2) Content that interests them is new to me, their job , engage in meaningful (conversational) way. #lrnchat
8:51 PM LnDDave A2) transparency. #lrnchat
8:51 PM fugu13 RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) When they show (or provide links or resources) to showing rather than telling #lrnchat
8:51 PM kelly_smith01 Q2) When they share #lrnchat
8:51 PM AjayPangarkar a2) those that challenge the status quo (birds of a feather:) ) #lrnchat
8:51 PM nancyrubin A2) I connect with people that add value to my network #lrnchat
8:51 PM JustStormy YES! RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) When they show (or provide links or resources) to showing rather than telling #lrnchat
8:51 PM WonderPix A2) I think I can learn something from most anyone…may not always be good tho #lrnchat
8:51 PM JD_Dillon A2) They don’t still have an egg … #lrnchat
8:51 PM TejasTPatel RT @AjayPangarkar: a2) those that challenge the status quo (birds of a feather:) ) #lrnchat
8:52 PM weisblatt A1) People are credible when they own their stuff. #lrnchat
8:52 PM urbie #lrnchat A2 When I know them in RL or someone i know from RL says #wow. If they’re mentioned on #eduallstars or other networks #bonafide
8:52 PM tomspiglanin @weisblatt “echo chamber” is HT @euan #lrnchat
8:52 PM kmarranzino I see what you did there:“@JaneBozarth: RT @AdamTilted A2) Adding something to a conversation, not just reposting what others say. #lrnchat”
8:52 PM LnDDave RT @JaneBozarth: Excellent. Yes. RT @weisblatt A1) When its clear that they get a kick out of their domain of interest. #lrnchat
8:52 PM Quinnovator a2) if I can track back and validate their trajectory (trust and transparency) #lrnchat
8:52 PM kelly_smith01 A2) They credit other’s ideas and work #lrnchat
8:52 PM stipton A2) I think credibility & trust comes with time. But first engage with me #LRNchat
8:52 PM John_Gravitt A2, When they answer questions and share value. Don’t just say, “It’s in my book” or program. #lrnchat
8:52 PM JaneBozarth New folks: Consider keeping tweets short enough tonight so others can RT you. #lrnchat
8:52 PM JustRogering @lrnchat a2) I take advantage of the net and do a little snooping #lrnchat
8:52 PM JD_Dillon RT @kelly_smith01 A2) They credit other’s ideas and work #lrnchat
8:52 PM brunowinck @fugu13 Hi Russell How are you doing ? @kelly_smith01 #lrnchat
8:52 PM AdamTilted “squirt out links”. I’ll never get that out of my head now. @SheilaS #lrnchat
8:52 PM lopta A2) Someone who engages in conversation with an open mind. Someone who isn’t looking for an echo chamber. #lrnchat
8:52 PM gminks Q2) someone who is a real user, can talk the real talk and not just jargon or trendy b.s. #lrnchat
8:52 PM JustStormy a2) Love when someone brings a new perspective to the table or changes my mind #lrnchat
8:52 PM nancyrubin RT @kelly_smith01: A2) They credit other’s ideas and work #lrnchat
8:52 PM MargieLJohnson3 A2) engages with others #lrnchat
8:53 PM Tracy_Parish Good point. RT @JustStormy: a2) Love when someone brings a new perspective to the table or changes my mind #lrnchat
8:53 PM shalineemattoo @sealizis yes engages than self-promoters #lrnchat
8:53 PM ryantracey RT @kelly_smith01: A2) They credit other’s ideas and work #lrnchat
8:53 PM AjayPangarkar a2) follow revolutionaries, they will change the world! (only the ones for good please) #lrnchat
8:53 PM LnDDave RT @JaneBozarth: New folks: Consider keeping tweets short enough tonight so others can RT you. #lrnchat
8:53 PM JaneBozarth q2 people who engage, try to extend ideas, give credit, participate #lrnchat
8:53 PM urbie #lrnchat A2 For tweeps no in education if they’re funny, if something about their message strikes chord.. like if they tweet about kids.
8:53 PM rhappe RT @JustStormy: a2) Love when someone brings a new perspective to the table or changes my mind #lrnchat
8:53 PM Quinnovator RT @JaneBozarth: q2 people who engage, try to extend ideas, give credit, participate #lrnchat
8:53 PM gminks RT @JustStormy: a2) Love when someone brings a new perspective to the table or changes my mind #lrnchat
8:53 PM SheilaS @AdamTilted That was the idea. 🙂 #lrnchat
8:53 PM LearnNuggets A2) they participate, engage, and support others. #lrnchat
8:53 PM rhappe @JustStormy I also love people who are not afraid to challenge me (respectfully) #lrnchat
8:53 PM ChayneDaisy RT @stipton: A2) The ability to make me laugh, they share stories & offer intersting perspectives & encourage healthy debate. #LRNchat
8:53 PM MaryGMSEd Q2) when they aren’t afraid to share what they know. #lrnchat
8:53 PM christycate RT @urbie: #lrnchat A0 Thanks to @christycate this week i learned a bit about transitioning to a K-12 educator role in Texas.. http://t.co/…
8:53 PM JD_Dillon A2) People who aren’t ONLY professionals – let personality show too #lrnchat
8:53 PM LearnNuggets RT @JD_Dillon: A2) They don’t still have an egg … #lrnchat
8:53 PM JaneBozarth RT @MaryGMSEd Q2) when they aren’t afraid to share what they know. #lrnchat
8:53 PM LnDDave RT @JaneBozarth: q2 people who engage, try to extend ideas, give credit, participate #lrnchat
8:53 PM weisblatt A2) They don’t contradict themselves unless preceded by “I was wrong”. #lrnchat
8:53 PM JustStormy a2) never hurts to have a nice profile pic and a smile #lrnchat
8:54 PM urbie RT @JD_Dillon: A2) They don’t try to sell me anything … #lrnchat
8:54 PM ryantracey RT @LearnNuggets: A2) they participate, engage, and support others. #lrnchat
8:54 PM brunowinck #lrnchat Q2) People how participate in twitter chat and get retweets from tweeps I know
8:54 PM dreid63 I like it when someone can make me laugh #lrnchat
8:54 PM stipton or unafraid to ASK why. RT @JD_Dillon: A2) They can answer the question WHY? #lrnchat
8:54 PM lrnchat Q3) How do you find relevant people online? #lrnchat
8:54 PM JaneBozarth @kmarranzino @AdamTilted It’s very meta, isn’t it? #lrnchat
8:54 PM JD_Dillon RT @lrnchat Q3) How do you find relevant people online? #lrnchat
8:54 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat Q3) How do you find relevant people online? #lrnchat
8:54 PM FerventLoveMedi RT @lrnchat: Q2) What makes someone credible/interesting online? #lrnchat
8:54 PM tomspiglanin A2) also people who engage across platforms. Get to know the person from multiple perspectives. #integrity #lrnchat
8:54 PM kmarranzino A2) writes passionately about the topic in which s/he is interested and of which s/he has knowledge. #lrnchat
8:54 PM weisblatt RT @lrnchat Q3) How do you find relevant people online? #lrnchat
8:54 PM ryantracey Golden rule: RT @JD_Dillon A2) They don’t still have an egg … #lrnchat
8:54 PM JustStormy @rhappe Yes! Always nice to engage in lively discourse! #lrnchat
8:54 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you find relevant people online? #lrnchat
8:54 PM JaneBozarth Other chats. I find #custserv chat has MANY parallels to our work, often meet good folks there. #lrnchat
8:54 PM JD_Dillon A3) Build a PLN and follow/curate the resources and contacts they share #lrnchat
8:54 PM tomspiglanin RT @JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat Q3) How do you find relevant people online? #lrnchat
8:54 PM JaneBozarth RT @JD_Dillon A3) Build a PLN and follow/curate the resources and contacts they share #lrnchat
8:54 PM dreid63 @JustStormy Yes, I like a good avatar. #lrnchat
8:55 PM Tracy_Parish I ask @JaneBozarth 🙂 #lrnchat
8:55 PM rhappe RT @JD_Dillon: A2) People who aren’t ONLY professionals – let personality show too #lrnchat
8:55 PM JaneBozarth RT @Tracy_Parish I ask @JaneBozarth 🙂 #lrnchat
8:55 PM LearnNuggets Yes! RT @kelly_smith01: A2) They credit other’s ideas and work #lrnchat
8:55 PM srLeoSalazar “@JD_Dillon: A2) They can answer the question WHY? #lrnchat” <<< Outstanding!! Both ‘what’ & ‘how’ they answer is key to learning
8:55 PM JaneBozarth RT @rhappe RT @JD_Dillon: A2) People who aren’t ONLY professionals – let personality show too #lrnchat
8:55 PM weisblatt Q3) People refer to what the person says not just retweet it. #lrnchat
8:55 PM urbie RT @weisblatt: A2) They don’t contradict themselves unless preceded by “I was wrong”. #lrnchat
8:55 PM sealizis Q3 – googling & recommendations #lrnchat
8:55 PM gminks “@JD_Dillon: A2) They don’t still have an egg … #lrnchat” lol
8:55 PM AjayPangarkar a3) seek out those that you enjoy hearing and then follow, then find out who they follow #lrnchat
8:55 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you find relevant people online? #lrnchat
8:55 PM Quinnovator a3) the network: recommendations, see who else is paying attention to them, hearing them speak #lrnchat
8:55 PM John_Gravitt A2 In person, I respect someone who admits they don’t know. Online, the admission is usually silence. Challenging. #lrnchat
8:55 PM fugu13 A3) Serendipity, recommendations, and tracing interactions through multiple platforms #lrnchat
8:55 PM LnDDave A2) people who are actually doing things, instead of just talking about them. #lrnchat
8:55 PM JD_Dillon A3) Look for ways to connect with people who write content you enjoy #lrnchat
8:55 PM JustStormy RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you find relevant people online? #lrnchat
8:55 PM JaneBozarth See who my friends are talking to, esp on twitter. #lrnchat
8:55 PM WonderPix RT @stipton: A2) The ability to make me laugh, they share stories & offer intersting perspectives & encourage healthy debate. #LRNchat
8:55 PM Tracy_Parish Usually it is from others in my PLN and then through chats, conferences, communities #lrnchat
8:55 PM everlearningnow A3) Not by using ‘Who to follow’ list on Twitter 🙂 #lrnchat
8:55 PM krovine Q1) if i can learn something new or if they link to good resources #lrnchat
8:55 PM tomspiglanin A3) Find relevant people: Read. Use trusted peers as filters to amplify signals over noise. #lrnchat
8:55 PM VilmaBonilla RT @tomspiglanin: A2) Credibility is usually tied to integrity. Are people who they say they are? Do they mean what they ‘say’? #lrnchat
8:56 PM kmarranzino RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you find relevant people online? #lrnchat
8:56 PM Tracy_Parish RT @tomspiglanin: A3) Find relevant people: Read. Use trusted peers as filters to amplify signals over noise. #lrnchat
8:56 PM ChayneDaisy #lrnchat A2) People who engage, challenge & share positive experiences & viewpoints #lrnchat
8:56 PM brunowinck A3) Blog -> Twitter (often), Tweeps -> Tweeps (often), Twitter chat (often), Mail -> twitter (rare), other network -> very rare #lrnchat
8:56 PM everlearningnow A3) Seeing who other interesting people hang out with #lrnchat
8:56 PM weisblatt Q3) When bloggers I admire write their thoughts about someone else’s work, I find that person and follow them. #lrnchat
8:56 PM JaneBozarth Find good curators. I know if @c4lpt tweets it that she’s read it. It’s not just a blind RT. #lrnchat
8:56 PM MaryGMSEd @LnDDave: A2) people who are actually doing things, instead of just talking about them. #lrnchat” This.
8:56 PM stipton A3) when first started out: Found interesting ppl & looked who they follow, look at the stream. if I like what I see, I followed. #LRNchat
8:56 PM brunowinck Yes a good one RT @JaneBozarth: See who my friends are talking to, esp on twitter. #lrnchat
8:56 PM gminks @LnDDave: A2) people who are actually doing things, instead of just talking about them. #lrnchat” <yassssssss
8:56 PM JustStormy a3) friends of friends of friends….retweets…curated lists #lrnchat
8:56 PM nancyrubin A2) find I retweet posts with really good visuals #lrnchat
8:56 PM AjayPangarkar a3) participate in chats like this and follow some interesting people participating in the chat #lrnchat
8:56 PM AdamTilted A3) That was hard for me at first. Then I built a network over time that keeps growing. Like life, but with a keyboard. #lrnchat
8:56 PM JustStormy LOL RT @Tracy_Parish: I ask @JaneBozarth 🙂 #lrnchat #AskJane
8:56 PM JaneBozarth AMEN TO THAT RT @LnDDave: A2) people who are actually doing things, instead of just talking about them. #lrnchat
8:56 PM ryantracey A3) When I read an insightful blog post, I look for the twitter icon. #lrnchat
8:56 PM rhappe A3) My two best ways to find people on Twitter – look at the lists people put you on and look at who else interesting people follow #lrnchat
8:56 PM dreid63 Q3) If I read something I like I generally look for a social media contact, meet someone in RL. #lrnchat
8:56 PM TejasTPatel A3) Through networks is usually a good starting point. #lrnchat
8:57 PM nancyrubin RT @everlearningnow: A3) Seeing who other interesting people hang out with #lrnchat
8:57 PM urbie #lrnchat A3 Over the weekend at #EdCampWestTexas I learned the Right Way reading @DonWettrick #PureGeniusBook .. authenticity
8:57 PM MargieLJohnson3 A3) online searches, networkin at conferences #lrnchat
8:57 PM LearnNuggets A3) by searching keywords of relative interests. And hashtags of course! #lrnchat
8:57 PM nancyrubin RT @ryantracey: A3) When I read an insightful blog post, I look for the twitter icon. #lrnchat
8:57 PM Quinnovator RT @JaneBozarth: AMEN TO THAT RT @LnDDave: A2) people who are actually doing things, instead of just talking about them. #lrnchat
8:57 PM weisblatt Everything about how I interact online started with #lrnchat
8:57 PM LearnNuggets LOL RT @Tracy_Parish: I ask @JaneBozarth 🙂 #lrnchat
8:57 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you find relevant people online? #lrnchat
8:57 PM TejasTPatel @lrnchat Then follows going through discussions and identifying people that make the list followed by reviewing system suggestions #lrnchat
8:57 PM JD_Dillon RT @LnDDave: A2) people who are actually doing things, instead of just talking about them. #lrnchat
8:57 PM brunowinck +1 RT @JaneBozarth: AMEN TO THAT RT @LnDDave: A2) people who are actually doing things, instead of just talking about them. #lrnchat
8:57 PM JustStormy RT @AjayPangarkar: a3) participate in chats like this and follow some interesting people participating in the chat #lrnchat
8:57 PM ryantracey +1 RT @gminks “@LnDDave: A2) people who are actually doing things, instead of just talking about them.” <yassssssss #lrnchat
8:57 PM LnDDave RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you find relevant people online? #lrnchat
8:57 PM TejasTPatel RT @ryantracey: +1 RT @gminks “@LnDDave: A2) people who are actually doing things, instead of just talking about them.” <yassssssss #lrnchat
8:57 PM urbie #lrnchat A3 Scientists and researchers who use pseudonyms are fun to follow and learn from. Really deep, really real stuff lemme tell you.
8:57 PM willconstantine Q3) searching hashtags that align to what you’re looking for #lrnchat
8:57 PM stipton A3) Now, try to search out new chats one can always find someone with intersting perspective. #LRNChat
8:57 PM MargieLJohnson3 RT @LnDDave: A2) people who are actually doing things, instead of just talking about them. #lrnchat
8:58 PM JD_Dillon A3) Throw a question or idea out into the world and see what comes back … #lrnchat
8:58 PM LucileWooters RT @weisblatt: RT @tomspiglanin A2) Someone who stimulates new thought, not an echo chamber > I like that Tom (echo echo) #lrnchat
8:58 PM JustStormy True RT @weisblatt: Everything about how I interact online started with #lrnchat
8:58 PM LucileWooters RT @weisblatt: RT @JD_Dillon A2) They can answer the question WHY? >Yes #lrnchat
8:58 PM eLearninCyclops RT @LnDDave RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you find relevant people online? #lrnchat
8:58 PM LnDDave RT @weisblatt: Everything about how I interact online started with #lrnchat
8:58 PM JustRogering A3) usually recommendations and research #lrnchat
8:58 PM JaneBozarth RT @LnDDave RT @weisblatt: Everything about how I interact online started with #lrnchat
8:58 PM brunowinck @rhappe many lists are now curated automatically #lrnchat
8:58 PM LnDDave RT @ryantracey: A3) When I read an insightful blog post, I look for the twitter icon. #lrnchat
8:58 PM Tracy_Parish I never think to do that. I should. RT @willconstantine: Q3) searching hashtags that align to what you’re looking for #lrnchat
8:58 PM krovine Q3) search hashtags, search people that share and comment on articles i read. #lrnchat @lrnchat
8:58 PM JustStormy Yes! RT @JD_Dillon: A3) Throw a question or idea out into the world and see what comes back … #lrnchat
8:58 PM stipton So true! RT @rhappe: A2) People who aren’t ONLY professionals – let personality show too #lrnchat
8:58 PM kmarranzino A3) Network with respected colleagues who share common interests – expand on that network; then tweak it – make it your own. #lrnchat
8:58 PM John_Gravitt @willconstantine Yes, and interesting people often use hastags in their bios. #lrnchat
8:58 PM eLearninCyclops Entering late, but glad to get in the last 1/2 #lrnchat
8:58 PM LnDDave A3) conference backchannels. #lrnchat
8:58 PM dreid63 Q3) Will also scan relevant lists, followers of people of interest. #lrnchat
8:58 PM allthingsnoisy Q1) Well, someone has to be the first person to reach out. At least I know I will have tried! #lrnchat
8:58 PM nancyrubin RT @kmarranzino: A3) Network with respected colleagues who share common interests – expand on that network; then tweak it – make it your ow…
8:58 PM JustStormy @rhappe what makes it harder for you?? #lrnchat
8:59 PM AdamTilted RT @JD_Dillon: A3) Throw a question or idea out into the world and see what comes back … #lrnchat
8:59 PM urbie #lrnchat A3 Some incredible people go to #edcamp. I learn of many whilst there. @KleinErin @burgessdave @TechNinjaTodd .. real people.
8:59 PM CandiceCPLP RT @LnDDave: A2) people who are actually doing things, instead of just talking about them. #lrnchat
8:59 PM JD_Dillon RT @LnDDave A3) conference backchannels <<< he would … 🙂 #lrnchat
8:59 PM Tracy_Parish RT @LnDDave: A3) conference backchannels. #lrnchat
8:59 PM JaneBozarth Oh yeah. RT @LnDDave A3) conference backchannels. <esp those curated by, oh, @lnddave #lrnchat
8:59 PM audioswhite A3) search – topics interests, then almost entirely through network connections. filter & share = others who filter & share #lrnchat
8:59 PM SteveSwinkTN A3) Referrals, trusted followers – much the same way as offline. #lrnchat
8:59 PM brunowinck same MT @Tracy_Parish: Often randomly from someone I followr, they RT a post, it’s relevant, suddenly I’m following the person #lrnchat
8:59 PM rhappe A3) People live-tweeting conferences are also a great way to discover people #lrnchat
8:59 PM weisblatt RT @CandiceCPLP RT @LnDDave: A2) people who are actually doing things, instead of just talking about them. #lrnchat
8:59 PM gminks Q3) from reading. Books, articles, blog posts…I look for them!! #lrnchat
8:59 PM gminks RT @ryantracey: A3) When I read an insightful blog post, I look for the twitter icon. #lrnchat
8:59 PM willconstantine @Tracy_Parish the Discover area of Twitter is great! Or search Instagram hashtags for images #lrnchat
8:59 PM kmarranzino RT @LnDDave: A3) conference backchannels. #lrnchat
8:59 PM stipton Good One! RT @weisblatt: Q3) When bloggers I admire write their thoughts about someone else’s work, I find person & follow them. #lrnchat
8:59 PM audioswhite RT @LnDDave: A3) conference backchannels. #lrnchat
9:00 PM nancyrubin RT @rhappe: A3) People live-tweeting conferences are also a great way to discover people #lrnchat
9:00 PM allthingsnoisy Q3) I find relevant people online by searching, stalking, and stumbling. Not always in that order. #lrnchat
9:00 PM rhappe @brunowinck you can usually tell the auto-generated lists by their title or tool used though #lrnchat
9:00 PM tomspiglanin Like > @JaneBozarth: Oh yeah. RT @LnDDave A3) conference backchannels. <esp those curated by, oh, @lnddave #lrnchat
9:00 PM MaryGMSEd @JD_Dillon @LnDDave that was on the tip of my fingers…#lrnchat
9:00 PM VilmaBonilla A4) I have several topics of interest in mind that I lost and then search for on a regular basis on @twitter and and other apps #lrnchat
9:00 PM weisblatt RT @allthingsnoisy Q3) I find relevant people online by searching, stalking, and stumbling. Not always in that order. #lrnchat
9:00 PM everlearningnow A3) Do you learn more (quantity) if you follow more and more people? #lrnchat
9:00 PM nancyrubin RT @allthingsnoisy: Q3) I find relevant people online by searching, stalking, and stumbling. Not always in that order. #lrnchat
9:00 PM weisblatt RT @everlearningnow A3) Do you learn more (quantity) if you follow more and more people? > Maybe less #lrnchat
9:00 PM rhappe @JustStormy just more volume – separating out those who engage vs those who primarily share. And finding time myself #lrnchat
9:00 PM willconstantine @LnDDave you’re doing one for DevLearn too right? I’m depending on you! #lrnchat
9:00 PM kelly_smith01 Q3) Connect. I connected to M. Conner then I connected to #lrnchat No I have the best network on Earth #lrnchat
9:00 PM urbie #lrnchat A3 Taxonomy of tweet follows: Educators>teachers, instructional designers, Scientists>pseudonyms, gurus>job hunt experts
9:00 PM TejasTPatel @everlearningnow I would say get more perspectives #lrnchat
9:01 PM eLearninCyclops RT @kelly_smith01 Q3) Connect. I connected to M. Conner then I connected to #lrnchat No I have the best network on Earth #lrnchat
9:01 PM stipton RT @LnDDave: Everything about how I interact online started with #lrnchat < totally agree!!
9:01 PM urbie RT @JaneBozarth: AMEN TO THAT RT @LnDDave: A2) people who are actually doing things, instead of just talking about them. #lrnchat
9:01 PM John_Gravitt A2 Interesting people sometimes in Google Hangouts or making good YouTube videos. Interviewed in blogposts and hangouts. #lrnchat
9:01 PM CandiceCPLP A3) reading articles in related industries #lrnchat ( sorry I’m late!)
9:01 PM lrnchat Q4) How do you identify the anchors in your PLN who hold you back & keep conversation from moving forward? #lrnchat
9:01 PM LearnNuggets A3) Write more. Those who comment and share may have relevant interests. #lrnchat
9:01 PM JD_Dillon A3) Ask for help – see who’s willing #lrnchat
9:01 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat Q4) How do you identify the anchors in your PLN who hold you back & keep conversation from moving forward? #lrnchat
9:01 PM JD_Dillon RT @lrnchat Q4) How do you identify the anchors in your PLN who hold you back & keep conversation from moving forward? #lrnchat
9:01 PM weisblatt RT @lrnchat Q4) How do you identify the anchors in your PLN who hold you back & keep conversation from moving forward? #lrnchat
9:01 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lrnchat Q4) How do you identify the anchors in your PLN who hold you back & keep conversation from moving forward? #lrnchat
9:01 PM rhappe RT @gminks: Q3) from reading. Books, articles, blog posts…I look for them!! #lrnchat
9:01 PM dreid63 @gminks Me too. Reading is such an important connector for me. #lrnchat
9:01 PM LnDDave A3) luckily, it’s kind of my job to find these people now. 😉 #lrnchat
9:01 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you identify the anchors in your PLN who hold you back & keep conversation from moving forward? #lrnchat
9:01 PM SheilaS A3. I find interesting people on Twitter during chats like this + by noticing RTs of ppl from folks I respect. #lrnchat
9:02 PM kelly_smith01 #3) Back channel a conference via Twitter (or something similar) #lrnchat
9:02 PM tomspiglanin A3) also a question of integrity for me, engage with people who don’t overreact to what’s written. words can be misconstrued. #lrnchat
9:02 PM JaneBozarth q4 the echo echo echo… #lrnchat
9:02 PM n4th4nk 3) As a newb, lurking in Twitter chats like #lrnchat
9:02 PM LnDDave RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you identify the anchors in your PLN who hold you back & keep conversation from moving forward? #lrnchat
9:02 PM brunowinck A4) I don’t get “who hold you back”, how could they ? #lrnchat
9:02 PM gabriellabroady RT @kelly_smith01: A2) They credit other’s ideas and work #lrnchat
9:02 PM srLeoSalazar RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you identify the anchors in your PLN who hold you back & keep conversation from moving forward? #lrnchat
9:02 PM AjayPangarkar A4) must be careful not to lose the critical thinkers from the “anchor time wasters…can be tough sometimes #lrnchat
9:02 PM weisblatt Q4) is a tough question. I get something from everyone in my PLN #lrnchat
9:02 PM everlearningnow @TejasTPatel Probably learn a wider variety of things but not more things (unless you increase time spent reading social media) #lrnchat
9:02 PM andicSD Joining late tonight, hope you’ll still have me! #lrnchat
9:02 PM tomspiglanin RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you identify the anchors in your PLN who hold you back & keep conversation from moving forward? #lrnchat
9:02 PM Tracy_Parish A4) That tends to be the people that criticize unproductively or argumentative without a point. ##lrnchat
9:02 PM John_Gravitt .@SheilaS found from local Tweets search when I lived in Texas. #lrnchat
9:03 PM CandiceCPLP Q4 – complainers with no ideas #lrnchat
9:03 PM SheilaS A3. I find interesting people on Instagram through niche hashtags like #builtheritage. #lrnchat
9:03 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you identify the anchors in your PLN who hold you back & keep conversation from moving forward? #lrnchat
9:03 PM WonderPix “@brunowinck: A4) I don’t get “who hold you back”, how could they ? #lrnchat” >and why?
9:03 PM eLearninCyclops Q4) Ez to just ignore, unfollow if necessary #lrnchat
9:03 PM JaneBozarth q4 People who just want something. That starts to show pretty quickly. #lrnchat
9:03 PM weisblatt Q4) Hate when people fill your feed pushing everyone else out. #lrnchat
9:03 PM JD_Dillon A4) Avoid unnecessary drama … Hold people accountable as part of your PLN #lrnchat
9:03 PM tomspiglanin RT @AjayPangarkar: A4) must be careful not to lose the critical thinkers from the “anchor time wasters…can be tough sometimes #lrnchat
9:03 PM JaneBozarth RT @weisblatt Q4) Hate when people fill your feed pushing everyone else out. #lrnchat
9:03 PM willconstantine Q4) BLOCK! #lrnchat
9:03 PM LearnNuggets Yep. Me too! RT @stipton: RT @LnDDave: Everything about how I interact online started with #lrnchat < totally agree!!
9:03 PM everlearningnow @weisblatt Sounds like a paradox for @davegray to add to his book 🙂 – https://t.co/ZCb27qeGwl #lrnchat
9:03 PM allthingsnoisy My issue is that most of my PLNs are now blocked at work. #lrnchat
9:03 PM brunowinck @AjayPangarkar critical thinker move forward after a round while professional negators keep bringing back #lrnchat
9:03 PM schoolscatinfo Today we are following the #lrnchat, #aida2014 and of course keeping an eye on #acec2014
9:03 PM JD_Dillon A4) Certain retweets can do it … Like the reply all … #lrnchat
9:03 PM nancyrubin RT @JD_Dillon: A4) Avoid unnecessary drama … Hold people accountable as part of your PLN #lrnchat
9:03 PM AjayPangarkar a4) I keep the critical thinkers around me, they challenge to think further, anchors only see negative and no solutions #lrnchat
9:03 PM urbie @stipton @weisblatt #lrnchat With bloggers, it’s hit or miss with me. do they get comments, do they respond to comments? Real 2-way, sure.
9:03 PM stipton A5) Wow. Good question. I think you can sense the resistance, or (heaven help me) bad vibe. #LRNChat
9:03 PM lopta A3) I look for people with oscilloscope probes or network cables in their paws. #lrnchat
9:03 PM Quinnovator a4) the negative, the self-aggrandizer, the dollar focused, the PR hack, the liar, the misleader #Lrnchat
9:03 PM audioswhite @JaneBozarth: q4 the echo echo echo… #lrnchat” ECHO ECho echo
9:03 PM rhappe What’s a PLN? and how also not sure how people online would hold me back… #lrnchat
9:04 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you identify the anchors in your PLN who hold you back & keep conversation from moving forward? #lrnchat
9:04 PM brunowinck Yes RT @stipton: A5) Wow. Good question. I think you can sense the resistance, or (heaven help me) bad vibe. #LRNChat
9:04 PM AdamTilted A4) Those people get ignored fast. #lrnchat
9:04 PM LearnNuggets A4) they whine instead of contribute. #lrnchat
9:04 PM VilmaBonilla A3) Also read a lot and follow journalist and sources whose perspective I appreciate. #lrnchat
9:04 PM MaryGMSEd #lrnchat Q4) those who talk but have nothing to show for it
9:04 PM kelly_smith01 Q4) There are a number of folks on #lrnchat that helped extend/expand my thinking #lrnchat
9:04 PM Quinnovator a4) they take the easy way #lrnchat
9:04 PM tomspiglanin +RT from me @JaneBozarth: RT @weisblatt Q4) Hate when people fill your feed pushing everyone else out. #lrnchat
9:04 PM brunowinck @rhappe Personal Learning network the tweeps you go to first to ask for ques #lrnchat
9:04 PM TejasTPatel @rhappe Personal Learning Networks #lrnchat
9:04 PM weisblatt A4) People who have buzzwords on autocomplete. #lrnchat
9:04 PM lopta A4) Does PLN mean Peer Learning Network? #lrnchat
9:04 PM LnDDave RT @JaneBozarth: q4 People who just want something. That starts to show pretty quickly. #lrnchat
9:04 PM JaneBozarth Their Initial approach is to start a fight. Ain’t nobody got time for that. #lrnchat
9:04 PM eLearninCyclops Q4) Don’t consider them “PLN” They r your PAN – Personal AGGRAVATION Network #lrnchat
9:04 PM kmarranzino RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you identify the anchors in your PLN who hold you back & keep conversation from moving forward? #lrnchat
9:04 PM AjayPangarkar A4) also, lose those with big egos, (must remind myself to do same), they’ll waste your time about themselves #lrnchat
9:05 PM JaneBozarth RT @AjayPangarkar A4) also, lose those with big egos, (must remind myself to do same), they’ll waste your time about themselves #lrnchat
9:05 PM JaneBozarth RT @eLearninCyclops Q4) Don’t consider them “PLN” They r your PAN – Personal AGGRAVATION Network #lrnchat
9:05 PM Quinnovator RT @JaneBozarth: Their Initial approach is to start a fight. Ain’t nobody got time for that. #lrnchat < THAT’S SO WRONG!
9:05 PM LearnNuggets A3) those who use PLN’s as a platform to propagandize their other interests. #lrnchat
9:05 PM willconstantine Q4) well #lrnchat is my PLN
9:05 PM dreid63 Q4) If part of a learning community they may need guidance or help in sharing, support and encouragement to engage. #lrnchat
9:05 PM weisblatt A3) They can twist any topic into the one they obsess on. #lrnchat
9:05 PM allthingsnoisy A4) Read between the lines. If they’re profit-focused or attention-grubbing, it will manifest itself. #lrnchat
9:05 PM stipton @urbie @weisblatt totally agree. I think its a good sign to see a blogger interact with audience. THAT bilds credility to me. #LRNchat
9:05 PM MaryGMSEd Q4) those who bash others on SM – makes you wonder what they really think of you. #lrnchat
9:05 PM SheilaS A4. (Thx @cfanch for teaching me about PLNs.) When they annoy me a LOT & following becomes a chore, they’re outta my feed. #lrnchat
9:05 PM VilmaBonilla This! 👍 >> @stipton: A2) The ability to make me laugh, share stories & offer intersting perspectives & encourage healthy debate. #LRNchat
9:05 PM brunowinck @JaneBozarth yes and they give strange feeling because they see the negative side #lrnchat
9:05 PM srLeoSalazar “@rhappe: What’s a PLN? and how also not sure how people online would hold me back… #lrnchat” <<< personal learning network.
9:05 PM tomspiglanin A4) anchors holding you back means you chose poorly Choose wings instead #lrnchat
9:05 PM JD_Dillon A4) Don’t regress to high school rules … #lrnchat
9:05 PM rhappe @brunowinck ahh, thank you! I have not gotten to putting an acronym on my personal network 🙂 #newbie #lrnchat
9:05 PM willconstantine RT @rhappe: What’s a PLN? and how also not sure how people online would hold me back… #lrnchat
9:05 PM JaneBozarth @Quinnovator See it happen to more famous twitter folk. I think it’s intended to make it look like person is engaging w them. #lrnchat
9:06 PM LnDDave A) People that present themselves one way when you know they are different. You question their motives. #lrnchat
9:06 PM Tracy_Parish RT @tomspiglanin: A4) anchors holding you back means you chose poorly Choose wings instead #lrnchat
9:06 PM DonWettrick RT @urbie: #lrnchat A3 Over the weekend at #EdCampWestTexas I learned the Right Way reading @DonWettrick #PureGeniusBook .. authenticity
9:06 PM andicSD Q4) silence is a powerful scream #lrnchat
9:06 PM JaneBozarth @rhappe Personal Learning Network. Maybe better: How/why do you cull your garden? #lrnchat
9:06 PM CandiceCPLP “@LearnNuggets: A3) those who use PLN’s as a platform to propagandize their other interests. #lrnchat”..and ‘build their brand’
9:06 PM brunowinck @rhappe between SME and CoP but in network form #lrnchat
9:06 PM everlearningnow @weisblatt People who have #buzzwords in their #twitter #bio #lrnchat
9:06 PM LearnNuggets RT @Quinnovator: a4) the negative, the self-aggrandizer, the dollar focused, the PR hack, the liar, the misleader #Lrnchat
9:06 PM LnDDave RT @JD_Dillon: A4) Avoid unnecessary drama … Hold people accountable as part of your PLN #lrnchat
9:07 PM JaneBozarth MT @LearnNuggets: A3) those who use PLNs as a platform to propagandize their other interests. #lrnchat”..& ‘build their brand’
9:07 PM srLeoSalazar @rhappe I had to look it up. 🙂 #lrnchat
9:07 PM JaneBozarth RT @JD_Dillon: A4) Avoid unnecessary drama … Hold people accountable as part of your PLN #lrnchat
9:07 PM ryantracey RT @Tracy_Parish: A4) That tends to be the people that criticize unproductively or argumentative without a point. ##lrnchat
9:07 PM OhhSocialMedia RT @SheilaS: A3. I find interesting people on Instagram through niche hashtags like #builtheritage. #lrnchat
9:07 PM OhhSocialMedia RT @SheilaS: A3. I find interesting people on Twitter during chats like this + by noticing RTs of ppl from folks I respect. #lrnchat
9:07 PM leahdesouza @lrnchat Authenticity, Relevance, + Value Add. #lrnchat
9:07 PM rhappe A4) I guess my biggest challenge is people in my network that revisit the same themes or don’t change/challenge the conversation #lrnchat
9:07 PM sambrookg RT @JaneBozarth: MT @LearnNuggets: A3) those who use PLNs as a platform to propagandize their other interests. #lrnchat”..& ‘build their br…
9:07 PM weisblatt RT @andicSD Q4) silence is a powerful scream #lrnchat
9:07 PM eLearninCyclops RT @weisblatt RT @andicSD Q4) silence is a powerful scream #lrnchat
9:07 PM KleinErin RT @urbie: #lrnchat A3 Some incredible people go to #edcamp. I learn of many whilst there. @KleinErin @burgessdave @TechNinjaTodd .. real p…
9:07 PM Quinnovator @JaneBozarth and so many other reasons: threatened, fearful, … #Lrnchat
9:07 PM brunowinck #lrnchat A4) Anyway you can’t hold arguments on twitter so better step back and ignore
9:07 PM CandiceCPLP @LnDDave: A) People that present themselves one way when you know they are different. You question their motives. #lrnchat” Indeed
9:07 PM tomspiglanin A4) When starting out, super important to be well-founded, connect with those who help you fly, not sink #lrnchat
9:07 PM kmarranzino A4) They don’t contribute, or they only contribute when selling something, or they only troll everyone else’s contributions. #lrnchat
9:07 PM kelly_smith01 RT @JaneBozarth: RT @JD_Dillon: A4) Avoid unnecessary drama … Hold people accountable as part of your PLN #lrnchat
9:07 PM everlearningnow @CandiceCPLP @LearnNuggets Isn’t that what social media was invented for? 🙂 #marketing #lrnchat
9:07 PM LnDDave A4) people that always take and never give. #lrnchat
9:07 PM The_FEEL_Center I Was an Entrepreneur Masquerading as an Employee #10 – https://t.co/8wp3QYxlnQ #marketing
#education #lrnchat
#SmallBiz
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9:07 PM JaneBozarth The idea of participating & listening is new for many in learning-related fields. Lifetime of creating/pushing content. #lrnchat
9:07 PM The_FEEL_Center I Was an Entrepreneur Masquerading as an Employee #10 – https://t.co/3aT5qd5B6r #marketing
#education #lrnchat… http://t.co/Q1tu6WEiBv
9:07 PM The_FEEL_Center I Was an Entrepreneur Masquerading as an Employee #10 – https://t.co/8wp3QYxlnQ #marketing
#education #lrnchat… http://t.co/widEm7YAJ9
9:08 PM urbie #lrnchat A4 Hm? That’s a hard one.
9:08 PM ChayneDaisy #lrnchat A4) if they’re in my PLN we’re sharing & learning – we have the option to block ppl who are negative
9:08 PM The_FEEL_Center I Was an Entrepreneur Masquerading as an Employee #10 – https://t.co/3aT5qd5B6r #marketing
#education #lrnchat
#SmallBiz
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9:08 PM Quinnovator a4) those who spam, who want something for nothing, who want to ‘pick my brain’, who take liberties, … #lrnchat
9:08 PM lrnchat Q5) Can social media usage detract from learning? #lrnchat
9:08 PM stipton A5) People who seem to have aggressive POV’s but can’t back it up once you engage or dig deeper. #LRNchat
9:08 PM VilmaBonilla RT @JD_Dillon: A4) Avoid unnecessary drama … Hold people accountable as part of your PLN #lrnchat
9:08 PM JD_Dillon RT @lrnchat Q5) Can social media usage detract from learning? #lrnchat
9:08 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lrnchat Q5) Can social media usage detract from learning? #lrnchat
9:08 PM rhappe @JaneBozarth that’s much easier to answer. People who just throw links at me (particularly if they cover old ground again & again) #lrnchat
9:08 PM everlearningnow @JaneBozarth @JD_Dillon how do you do that? #lrnchat
9:08 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q5) Can social media usage detract from learning? #lrnchat
9:08 PM LnDDave A4) people that ask questions that are easily answered in a Google search. #lrnchat
9:08 PM AjayPangarkar a5) oh ya! it can! #lrnchat
9:08 PM JaneBozarth @Quinnovator Q. Can I pick your brain? A. Sure, will you paint my kitchen? #lrnchat
9:08 PM weisblatt RT @JaneBozarth idea of participating/listening new 4 many in learning-related fields. Lifetime of creating/pushing content.>YES! #lrnchat
9:08 PM JD_Dillon A5) Anything can detract from learning – tools must be used with purpose to drive impact #lrnchat
9:08 PM tomspiglanin @JaneBozarth so true. Even the concept of expert is challenged today, thankfully #lrnchat
9:08 PM John_Gravitt RT @JD_Dillon A5) Anything can detract from learning – tools must be used with purpose to drive impact #lrnchat
9:09 PM stipton All this. RT @LearnNuggets: a4) the negative, the self-aggrandizer, the dollar focused, the PR hack, the liar, the misleader #Lrnchat
9:09 PM Quinnovator a5) of course not, because…oh squirrel! #Lrnchat
9:09 PM JD_Dillon A5) Social media means something different to everyone – for some it’s not meant for “learning” #lrnchat
9:09 PM JaneBozarth @AjayPangarkar Spoken like a true Canadianianian. #lrnchat
9:09 PM Tracy_Parish A5) I’m going to say yes. People might not dig past the 140 chars to learn more. And there is SO MUCH MORE to learn. #lrnchat
9:09 PM weisblatt RT @lrnchat Q5) Can social media usage detract from learning? #lrnchat
9:09 PM LnDDave RT @lrnchat: Q5) Can social media usage detract from learning? #lrnchat
9:09 PM eLearninCyclops Q5) Many classroom trainers still see it as a distraction in the classroom #lrnchat
9:09 PM kmarranzino RT @lrnchat: Q5) Can social media usage detract from learning? #lrnchat
9:09 PM cherylannmc RT @Tracy_Parish: A5) I’m going to say yes. People might not dig past the 140 chars to learn more. And there is SO MUCH MORE to learn. #lrn…
9:09 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q5) Can social media usage detract from learning? #lrnchat
9:09 PM sealizis Q5 – depends on how it’s used. Learning can be done anytime anywhere. #lrnchat
9:09 PM rhappe @srLeoSalazar glad I’m not the only #newbie 🙂 #lrnchat
9:09 PM TejasTPatel A5) rarely if you keep learning from conversations at the back of your mind always #lrnchat
9:09 PM Tracy_Parish Woot!
RT @AjayPangarkar: a5) oh ya! it can! #lrnchat
9:09 PM tomspiglanin RT @lrnchat: Q5) Can social media usage detract from learning? #lrnchat
9:09 PM LearnNuggets @JaneBozarth Yes, that too! #lrnchat
9:09 PM AjayPangarkar @JaneBozarth yes ma’am eh! #lrnchat
9:09 PM JD_Dillon @everlearningnow @JaneBozarth Sometimes you may have to call people out if they’re causing problems for your community #lrnchat
9:09 PM weisblatt I’m sorry, did you say something? I was tweeting. #lrnchat
9:09 PM JaneBozarth @rhappe Didn’t think you’d feel new. OK? #lrnchat
9:09 PM LnDDave A5) anything in excess can be a distraction. #lrnchat
9:09 PM andicSD Q5) arguably, yes and no. I’m THAT profound. 🙂 #lrnchat
9:09 PM WonderPix RT @sealizis: Q5 – depends on how it’s used. Learning can be done anytime anywhere. #lrnchat
9:10 PM audioswhite A4) blatant promoters and other ballast. Important to filter to build effective engaging PLN. @britz is a good role model #lrnchat
9:10 PM stipton RT @lrnchat: Q5) Can social media usage detract from learning? #lrnchat
9:10 PM AjayPangarkar RT @Tracy_Parish: Woot!
RT @AjayPangarkar: a5) oh ya! it can! #lrnchat
9:10 PM brunowinck A5) Hardly, learning happens anyway though exhange of information, but could be hectic, slow, contradictory #lrnchat
9:10 PM rhappe @stipton @LearnNuggets I’m seeing characters/cartoons of these… #lrnchat
9:10 PM sealizis @Tracy_Parish but social media isn’t ONLY @twitter. #lrnchat
9:10 PM LearnKotch RT @JD_Dillon: A3) Build a PLN and follow/curate the resources and contacts they share #lrnchat
9:10 PM CandiceCPLP .@everlearningnow @LearnNuggets So PLNs are an ‘unintended consequence ‘. #lrnchat 😄
9:10 PM lopta A4) People who dredge up the same tired old shoes without anything new to contribute. #lrnchat
9:10 PM kelly_smith01 A5) SoMe must be cultivated and you must remove the weeds – many many weeds #lrnchat
9:10 PM weisblatt A5) Going down rat holes with huge signs above saying “TIMESUCK” #lrnchat
9:10 PM Tracy_Parish Some SOME needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Small, narrow perspective. need to ensure you are finding the larger contenxt. #lrnchat
9:10 PM AjayPangarkar @Quinnovator Love it 🙂 #lrnchat
9:10 PM eLearninCyclops Q5) Helps when using it to learn together, but detracting if listening to too many yahoos #lrnchat
9:10 PM VilmaBonilla A5) If time is not well managed and allocated, social media use may be detrimental. #lrnchat
9:11 PM JaneBozarth RT @eLearninCyclops Q5) Helps when using it to learn together, but detracting if listening to too many yahoos #lrnchat
9:11 PM LnDDave “@willconstantine: @LnDDave you’re doing one for DevLearn too right? I’m depending on you! #lrnchat” <<oh yes.
9:11 PM Tracy_Parish Exactly – I ran out of chars on that last thought RT @sealizis: @Tracy_Parish but social media isn’t ONLY @twitter. #lrnchat
9:11 PM WonderPix A5) Sure, so can thoughts, clouds, outside noises…but at least SoMe can enhance learning #lrnchat
9:11 PM lopta A5) If it does, you’re doing it wrong. #lrnchat
9:11 PM rhappe @JaneBozarth lol – it’s all OK – I’m good with asking the dumb questions. You learn something, right? #lrnchat
9:11 PM stipton RT @JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator Q. Can I pick your brain? A. Sure, will you paint my kitchen? < Jane you crack me up #lrnchat
9:11 PM tomspiglanin A5) Can #SoMe detract from learning? Let me count the ways… (1) when it’s forced #lrnchat
9:11 PM Quinnovator a5) definitely a problem for those easily distracted (e.g. me) #Lrnchat
9:11 PM CandiceCPLP @LnDDave – that is a pet peeve of mine, too #lrnchat
9:11 PM srLeoSalazar @rhappe One can’t know everything, and you had the courage to ask. Kudos! #lrnchat
9:11 PM kmarranzino A5) Yes. Anything can be a distraction when used out of context. #lrnchat
9:11 PM everlearningnow @JD_Dillon @JaneBozarth Got it. Like this right? #lrnchat http://t.co/pmFPBMAZl5
9:11 PM MaryGMSEd Q5) it can be if you are looking kittens. Note: I have nothing against kittens. #lrnchat
9:12 PM AjayPangarkar a5) learning from social media sources requires focus and discipline, and a good eye for what is valid #lrnchat
9:12 PM JaneBozarth Yes, when you tell someone they have to go learn something on social media on Tuesday between 10 and 11:15. #lrnchat
9:12 PM urbie #lrnchat A4 I need to branch out to blog (deeper conversations). Thanks to #ATDSoMe I learned about Groups. How’d I miss that??
9:12 PM tomspiglanin A5) Can #SoMe detract from learning? When the noise in your feed overhelms the signal. #lrnchat
9:12 PM ryantracey RT @lopta: A4) People who dredge up the same tired old shoes without anything new to contribute. #lrnchat
9:12 PM LnDDave A5) when you lack the technical skill to block out the noise. #lrnchat
9:12 PM weisblatt A5) If your SoME world is filled with mirrors you wont learn a thing. #lrnchat
9:12 PM burgess_shelley RT @urbie: #lrnchat A3 Over the weekend at #EdCampWestTexas I learned the Right Way reading @DonWettrick #PureGeniusBook .. authenticity
9:12 PM ChayneDaisy @LnDDave they could be new to SoMe and trying to connect, perhaps? #lrnchat
9:12 PM JaneBozarth When you get sucked into drama and panic headlines and trending stuff you don’t even care about. #BeCarefulOutThere #lrnchat
9:12 PM tomspiglanin RT @LnDDave: A5) when you lack the technical skill to block out the noise. #lrnchat
9:12 PM brunowinck @Quinnovator distracted without learning or distracted from work #lrnchat
9:12 PM CandiceCPLP “@Quinnovator: a5) definitely a problem for those easily distracted (e.g. me) #Lrnchat”. Me, too. squirrel!
9:12 PM AjayPangarkar RT @LnDDave: A5) when you lack the technical skill to block out the noise. >> SO TRUE!!! #lrnchat
9:12 PM JD_Dillon A5) When the conversation is dominated by a single perspective … #lrnchat
9:12 PM WeArePromo RT @The_FEEL_Center: I Was an Entrepreneur Masquerading as an Employee #10 – https://t.co/8wp3QYxlnQ #marketing
#education #lrnchat
#Smal…
9:12 PM eLearninCyclops Q5) Have found myself missing info in class or presentation due to giving too much attn to PLN instread #lrnchat
9:13 PM SheilaS This, big time —> RT @weisblatt: A5) If your SoME world is filled with mirrors you won’t learn a thing. #lrnchat
9:13 PM dreid63 Q5) I don’t know. Aside from Twitter’s limitations there are other forums that allow for thoughtful, creative, and longer comment. #lrnchat
9:13 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q5) Can social media usage detract from learning? #lrnchat
9:13 PM eLearninCyclops RT @SheilaS This, big time —> RT @weisblatt: A5) If your SoME world is filled with mirrors you won’t learn a thing. #lrnchat
9:13 PM AdamTilted A5) I missed question 5 because I was responding to Facebook #lrnchat (had to scroll way back)
9:13 PM stipton A5) Wait, let me check out that sale that’s “just for me” on Amazon and I’ll get back to ya. #LRNchat
9:13 PM kelly_smith01 RT @eLearninCyclops: RT @SheilaS This, big time —> RT @weisblatt: A5) If your SoME world is filled with mirrors you won’t learn a thing. …
9:13 PM willconstantine Q5) when I am spending too much time tweeting rather than focusing on my projects…. #lrnchat
9:13 PM LnDDave @ChayneDaisy yes, but if skill doesn’t develop, distraction will come. #lrnchat
9:13 PM weisblatt A5) If your critical thinking lens is broken, SoMe becomes a wave of nothingness. #lrnchat
9:13 PM eLearninCyclops RT @weisblatt A5) If your critical thinking lens is broken, SoMe becomes a wave of nothingness. #lrnchat
9:13 PM JaneBozarth RT @stipton A5) Wait, let me check out that sale that’s “just for me” on Amazon and I’ll get back to ya. #LRNchat
9:14 PM JD_Dillon @weisblatt Whoa … #lrnchat
9:14 PM rhappe @stipton @JaneBozarth @Quinnovator also a personal favorite: ‘Can I call *back* and pick your brain’ No! That was you picking! #lrnchat
9:14 PM LnDDave RT @SheilaS: This, big time —> RT @weisblatt: A5) If your SoME world is filled with mirrors you won’t learn a thing. #lrnchat
9:14 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q5) Can social media usage detract from learning? #lrnchat
9:14 PM kmarranzino RT @AjayPangarkar: a5) learning from social media sources requires focus and discipline, and a good eye for what is valid #lrnchat
9:14 PM andicSD “@AdamTilted: A5) I missed question 5 because I was responding to Facebook #lrnchat (had to scroll way back)” so true 🙂
9:14 PM brunowinck A5) timeline -> distraction -> serendipidy != interactions (filter trolls) = exchanges = focused = productive #lrnchat
9:14 PM JaneBozarth @rhappe ha #lrnchat
9:14 PM weisblatt RT @JD_Dillon A5) When the conversation is dominated by a single perspective … #lrnchat
9:14 PM rhappe RT @SheilaS: This, big time —> RT @weisblatt: A5) If your SoME world is filled with mirrors you won’t learn a thing. #lrnchat
9:14 PM everlearningnow A5) “Tools designed to increase productivity decrease productivity.” via @davegray – https://t.co/ZCb27qeGwl #lrnchat
9:14 PM allthingsnoisy A5) I think social media + learning is when we need to filter out the noise in an effort to learn and take action. #lrnchat
9:15 PM cherylannmc RT @allthingsnoisy: A5) I think social media + learning is when we need to filter out the noise in an effort to learn and take action. #lrn…
9:15 PM Interactyx Have you joined the social evolution? http://t.co/9k4hSzew39 #lrnchat #edchat #sociallearning #mlearning
9:15 PM srLeoSalazar @LnDDave: A5) when you lack the technical skill to block the noise #lrnchat” <<interesting that #ello categorizes “friends” vs “noise”
9:15 PM JustRogering @lrnchat a5) a device in hand has a strong temptation to get off focus. But if used well and focused it can be useful. #lrnchat
9:15 PM CandiceCPLP RT @everlearningnow: A5) “Tools designed to increase productivity decrease productivity.” via @davegray – https://t.co/ZCb27qeGwl #lrnchat
9:15 PM LearnNuggets @rhappe @stipton that could happen! #lrnchat
9:15 PM LnDDave A5) if you lack purpose in what you’re doing. #lrnchat
9:15 PM TejasTPatel RT @LnDDave: A5) if you lack purpose in what you’re doing. #lrnchat
9:15 PM JaneBozarth @everlearningnow @JD_Dillon I carry a big stick. #lrnchat
9:15 PM weisblatt RT @everlearningnow A5) “Tools designed to increase productivity decrease productivity.” via @davegray – https://t.co/vjlNXand4e #lrnchat
9:15 PM rhappe @srLeoSalazar stupidity/courage… it’s a fine line. The key is to not really care because if you don’t, you learn more 🙂 #lrnchat
9:15 PM stipton A5) I can fall down the discovery rabbit hole, one tweet leads to a blog, which leads to an article, which leads to a video… #LRNchat
9:15 PM rhappe RT @JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator Q. Can I pick your brain? A. Sure, will you paint my kitchen? #lrnchat
9:15 PM lrnchat Q6) What behaviors are critical to being able to use social media effectively for learning? #lrnchat
9:15 PM ryantracey Q5) Sometimes social media can promote superficiality over deep thinking. #lrnchat
9:15 PM weisblatt @everlearningnow Love this @davegray – https://t.co/vjlNXand4e They’re like Zen Koans #lrnchat
9:16 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat Q6) What behaviors are critical to being able to use social media effectively for learning? #lrnchat
9:16 PM Tracy_Parish RT @Quinnovator: a5) definitely a problem for those easily distracted (e.g. me) #Lrnchat http://t.co/3tQIzxLkLs
9:16 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lrnchat Q6) What behaviors are critical to being able to use social media effectively for learning? #lrnchat
9:16 PM kmarranzino RT @LnDDave: A5) if you lack purpose in what you’re doing. #lrnchat
9:16 PM JD_Dillon @JaneBozarth @everlearningnow Jane Roosevelt Bozarth #lrnchat
9:16 PM tomspiglanin A6) Oh, and when you suffer from… SQUIREL syndrome #lrnchat
9:16 PM rhappe @LearnNuggets @stipton looking forward to that! #lrnchat
9:16 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q6) What behaviors are critical to being able to use social media effectively for learning? #lrnchat
9:16 PM JaneBozarth 6. PARTICIPATE. Don’t just consume. #lrnchat
9:16 PM dreid63 Q5) Social media has been such a powerful tool for learning for me. #lrnchat
9:16 PM JustStormy missing part of #lrnchat to speak with the world renowned @Chicks_88
9:16 PM paul_learning one of the problems with social media is the validity of the source of information which can have a huge effect on learning #lrnchat
9:16 PM JD_Dillon RT @lrnchat Q6) What behaviors are critical to being able to use social media effectively for learning? #lrnchat
9:16 PM SheilaS @JaneBozarth The world needs a big THWOCK on its head rather often. #lrnchat
9:16 PM krovine RT @lrnchat: Q6) What behaviors are critical to being able to use social media effectively for learning? #lrnchat
9:16 PM JustStormy RT @lrnchat: Q5) Can social media usage detract from learning? #lrnchat
9:16 PM JD_Dillon A6) Curation … #lrnchat
9:16 PM eLearninCyclops RT @JaneBozarth 6. PARTICIPATE. Don’t just consume. #lrnchat
9:16 PM willconstantine @stipton which leads to 4 hours later #discovery #lrnchat
9:16 PM AjayPangarkar A5) learning through social media is like the rabbit hole in Alice in Wonderland #lrnchat
9:16 PM tomspiglanin RT @lrnchat: Q6) What behaviors are critical to being able to use social media effectively for learning? #lrnchat
9:16 PM Quinnovator a6) trust, transparency, open mind, appreciation of differences, safe to contribute #lrnchat
9:16 PM LnDDave RT @lrnchat: Q6) What behaviors are critical to being able to use social media effectively for learning? #lrnchat
9:16 PM urbie #lrnchat A5 When you’re so busy texting you don’t see the iceberg you’re bearing down on at 20 knots.
9:16 PM kmarranzino RT @lrnchat: Q6) What behaviors are critical to being able to use social media effectively for learning? #lrnchat
9:16 PM JaneBozarth @JustStormy @Chicks_88 MrDrJane will be thrilled . #lrnchat
9:16 PM JD_Dillon A6) Concise communication … #lrnchat
9:16 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q6) What behaviors are critical to being able to use social media effectively for learning? #lrnchat
9:17 PM LnDDave RT @JaneBozarth: 6. PARTICIPATE. Don’t just consume. #lrnchat
9:17 PM JD_Dillon A6) Curiosity … #lrnchat
9:17 PM Tracy_Parish Critical thinking and investigation. #lrnchat
9:17 PM stipton RT @lrnchat: Q6) What behaviors are critical to being able to use social media effectively for learning? #lrnchat
9:17 PM tomspiglanin A6) intelligence and critical thinking #lrnchat
9:17 PM ryantracey Q6) Empathy. #lrnchat
9:17 PM LnDDave RT @JD_Dillon: A6) Curation … #lrnchat
9:17 PM rhappe Q6) to really learn, you have to feel supported/safe. So the key is to build a network where you feel supported, seen & encouraged #lrnchat
9:17 PM JaneBozarth Separating wheat from chaff. Skill at determining credibility of person/material #lrnchat
9:17 PM AjayPangarkar a6) as said, discipline, focus, not being myopic but open to new concepts, and validating sources #lrnchat
9:17 PM willconstantine Q6) discipline and focus #lrnchat
9:17 PM JustStormy RT @lrnchat: Q6) What behaviors are critical to being able to use social media effectively for learning? #lrnchat
9:17 PM everlearningnow @weisblatt @davegray Next year they’ll be a book http://t.co/kNxMiF1ux3 #lrnchat
9:17 PM paul_learning finally made it to #lrnchat
9:17 PM kelly_smith01 RT @JaneBozarth: 6. PARTICIPATE. Don’t just consume. #lrnchat
9:17 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q6) What behaviors are critical to being able to use social media effectively for learning? #lrnchat
9:17 PM JaneBozarth MT @rhappe Q6) to really learn have to feel supported/safe. key is to build network where you feel supported, seen & encouraged #lrnchat
9:17 PM lopta A6: Discernment (perhaps especially filtering), time management and being able to find the right venue (IRC, twitter, G+ etc) #lrnchat
9:17 PM JustStormy a6) focus….Focus…FOCUS #lrnchat
9:17 PM allthingsnoisy A6) Focus. Engagement. Curiosity. Leadership. Listening! #lrnchat
9:17 PM LnDDave A6) filtering to find what you need, context to recognize what has value. #lrnchat
9:17 PM Tracy_Parish So do you mean not going on & on & on about something or other in such a was as to..RT @JD_Dillon: A6) Concise communication … #lrnchat
9:17 PM eLearninCyclops Q6) Follow a diverse crowd – other industries and definitely other opinions #lrnchat
9:17 PM AlwaysBreaking #lrnchat Moderation. Don’t overload people.
9:18 PM weisblatt The generation of my #PLN: @davegray recommended @moehlert who participated in #lrnchat
9:18 PM JaneBozarth RT @eLearninCyclops Q6) Follow a diverse crowd – other industries and definitely other opinions #lrnchat
9:18 PM stipton A6) The ability to filter, organize and properly curate what you are consuming. #LRNchat
9:18 PM Tracy_Parish RT @LnDDave: A6) filtering to find what you need, context to recognize what has value. #lrnchat
9:18 PM JD_Dillon A6) Exploration … Willingness to be uncomfortable … #lrnchat
9:18 PM JustStormy @paul_learning welcome! #lrnchat
9:18 PM CandiceCPLP A6) Engage! #lrnchat
9:18 PM Tracy_Parish RT @eLearninCyclops: Q6) Follow a diverse crowd – other industries and definitely other opinions #lrnchat
9:18 PM LnDDave RT @ryantracey: Q6) Empathy. #lrnchat
9:18 PM JustStormy RT @eLearninCyclops: Q6) Follow a diverse crowd – other industries and definitely other opinions #lrnchat
9:18 PM weisblatt RT @JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat Q6) What behaviors are critical to being able to use social media effectively for learning? #lrnchat
9:18 PM AjayPangarkar RT @AlwaysBreaking: #lrnchat Moderation. Don’t overload people.> like tweet chats? 😉
9:18 PM cherylannmc A6 – focus – know what you are looking for / need #lrnchat
9:18 PM dreid63 Curiosity, seeking, desire to connect, understand rules of engagement, technological confidence, concentration… #lrnchat
9:18 PM kmarranzino A6) Clear instructions for use. A goal. The use of social media is just the means to a desired end. #lrnchat
9:18 PM JD_Dillon A6) Open to new ideas – don’t buy into the ‘creepy’ factor #lrnchat
9:18 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 Play nice. Set ground rules. Critical dialogue is okay. But don’t be mean about it.
9:18 PM weisblatt A6) Critical thinking #lrnchat
9:18 PM Quinnovator a6) question asking, answer evaluation, tool discrimination, social etiquette #Lrnchat
9:18 PM JaneBozarth @JD_Dillon @everlearningnow ha #lrnchat
9:18 PM ryantracey A6) Ask questions before telling others the way it is. #lrnchat
9:18 PM krovine “@stipton: A6) The ability to filter, organize and properly curate what you are consuming. #LRNchat” agree with that
9:18 PM ChayneDaisy @dreid63 yes, me too – I have learnt so much from insightful blogs which I’d never had the opp to read #lrnchat
9:18 PM MaryGMSEd A6) the ability to zero in on exactly what you’re interested in #lrnchat
9:19 PM Tracy_Parish RT @ryantracey: A6) Ask questions before telling others the way it is. #lrnchat
9:19 PM LearnNuggets Apologies for being late and leaving early. 60ft tree fell & I need ice cream to figure out how to remove it. Thanks for the chat! #lrnchat
9:19 PM tomspiglanin A6) don’t rigidly apply rules. behaviors can be adjusted to manipulate rules #lrnchat
9:19 PM JaneBozarth DON”T LURK. I WILL SO OUT YOU. #lrnchat
9:19 PM willconstantine Q6) no Twitter rants or fights with people otherwise be a pseudo-celebrity #lrnchat
9:19 PM JaneBozarth RT @LearnNuggets Apologies for being late and leaving early. 60ft tree fell & I need ice cream to figure out how to remove it. ! #lrnchat
9:19 PM weisblatt A6) BOTH Critical Thinking AND Openess at the same time. #lrnchat
9:19 PM rhappe A6) Find connectors/cruise directors who will make introductions, pull you in, etc – like @JaneBozarth for example #lrnchat
9:19 PM kelly_smith01 Q6) Critical thinking, sharing, accepting new ideas #lrnchat
9:19 PM JustStormy a6) the ability to know when to be quiet works well #lrnchat (i need to work on that one…) 😉
9:19 PM AjayPangarkar RT @JaneBozarth: DON”T LURK. I WILL SO OUT YOU. >> the call is coming from inside the house #lrnchat
9:19 PM LnDDave A6) the ability to recognize someone that is full@of cr@p. #lrnchat
9:19 PM kmarranzino RT @LnDDave: A6) filtering to find what you need, context to recognize what has value. #lrnchat
9:19 PM andicSD Q6) curate, filter #lrnchat
9:19 PM kwooleyy RT @rhappe: A6) Find connectors/cruise directors who will make introductions, pull you in, etc – like @JaneBozarth for example #lrnchat
9:19 PM ryantracey RT @LnDDave: A6) filtering to find what you need, context to recognize what has value. #lrnchat
9:19 PM tomspiglanin RT @LnDDave: A6) the ability to recognize someone that is full@of cr@p. #lrnchat
9:19 PM JD_Dillon A6) Understand the technology and how to apply it to get what you want out of it #lrnchat
9:19 PM allthingsnoisy A6) Using new tools in new ways to learn new things. #lrnchat
9:19 PM stipton A6) Sometimes it helps to go in w/goal in mind – need to find an answer to XYZ or just set a timer. To much great info out there! #LRNchat
9:20 PM johnYSchen You have to find me first! RT @JaneBozarth: DON”T LURK. I WILL SO OUT YOU. #lrnchat
9:20 PM weisblatt @JaneBozarth @LearnNuggets My dog knocked down my tree last year. Not fun. #lrnchat
9:20 PM JD_Dillon A6) Don’t get too attached to one tool – a new one is coming out tomorrow #lrnchat
9:20 PM Quinnovator a6) give, communicate clearly, have a sense of humor, don’t take yourself too seriously #lrnchat
9:20 PM brunowinck A6) be cooperative, acknowledge what you learn, be helpful, don’t insist, be patient, give back #lrnchat
9:20 PM JaneBozarth Make friends. Don’t just engage in businesschat. @learnnuggets draws. I love ukulele. @tracy_parish likes camping. Like that. #lrnchat
9:20 PM paul_learning A6) Critical thinking and Analysis #LRNCHAT
9:20 PM eLearninCyclops RT @Quinnovator a6) give, communicate clearly, have a sense of humor, don’t take yourself too seriously #lrnchat
9:20 PM JustStormy @LnDDave is there an app for that? #lrnchat
9:20 PM paul_learning RT @LnDDave: A6) the ability to recognize someone that is full@of cr@p. #lrnchat
9:20 PM LnDDave A6) the confidence to be transparent without fear. #lrnchat
9:20 PM AdamTilted A6) You must be willing to take the risk to engage. And it takes work to maintain networks. #lrnchat
9:20 PM kelly_smith01 RT @JaneBozarth: DON”T LURK. I WILL SO OUT YOU. #lrnchat <– She means it – You have been warned!!!
9:20 PM JD_Dillon A6) Pick your spots – you can’t be on every social network #lrnchat
9:20 PM WonderPix RT @Quinnovator: a6) give, communicate clearly, have a sense of humor, don’t take yourself too seriously #lrnchat
9:20 PM rhappe A6) Knowing where you are in the learning cycle helps use social media effectively… are you casting a wide net? Refining? #lrnchat
9:20 PM weisblatt Why do people diss lurkers. If you don’t see them how do they bother you? #lrnchat
9:20 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 The odd thing is, you don’t want to constrain yourself too much. Hanging with like minded people, how much can you learn?
9:20 PM SheilaS A6. Often overlooked – a willingness to be public, incl. w/questions. This freaks a lot of ppl out, hence, lurking. #lrnchat
9:21 PM JaneBozarth Help move interactions from chitchat to real community. Talk to @rhappe about that. #lrnchat
9:21 PM LnDDave RT @JD_Dillon: A6) Understand the technology and how to apply it to get what you want out of it #lrnchat
9:21 PM LProbus RT @urbie: #lrnchat A6 Play nice. Set ground rules. Critical dialogue is okay. But don’t be mean about it.
9:21 PM brunowinck @JaneBozarth yes it must be a pleasure, something enjoyable @learnnuggets @tracy_parish #lrnchat
9:21 PM JaneBozarth @weisblatt takers takers takers. Give back. #lrnchat
9:21 PM kelly_smith01 RT @Tracy_Parish: Critical thinking and investigation. #lrnchat
9:21 PM CandiceCPLP “@AdamTilted: A6) You must be willing to take the risk to engage. And it takes work to maintain networks. #lrnchat” So true!
9:21 PM JD_Dillon A6) Remember that there’s nothing wrong with food porn … #lrnchat
9:21 PM JaneBozarth RT @JD_Dillon A6) Remember that there’s nothing wrong with food porn … #lrnchat
9:21 PM lopta A6b) Perception checking: did that person mean what you think he or she just said? #lrnchat
9:21 PM LnDDave RT @JaneBozarth: Help move interactions from chitchat to real community. Talk to @rhappe about that. #lrnchat
9:21 PM weisblatt Lurkers don’t learn, they consume. #lrnchat
9:21 PM JaneBozarth @JD_Dillon or pictures of #corgis #lrnchat
9:21 PM JustStormy This resonates MT @JaneBozarth: Make friends. Don’t just engage in businesschat. #lrnchat
9:21 PM paul_learning I love survival horror video games RT @JaneBozarth: Make friends. Don’t just engage in businesschat. #lrnchat
9:21 PM everlearningnow Q6) Asking questions. See -> #lrnchat http://t.co/YQNFcOx8Cz
9:22 PM ChayneDaisy #lrnchat A6) respect other’s opinions; challenge respectfully & be consistent #lrnchat
9:22 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 Stretch a little or a lot, right to the edge of your comfort zone. Try new things. Oh yeah, don’t drink from a glass. Bottles.
9:22 PM JD_Dillon @JaneBozarth or shiba inus … #lrnchat
9:22 PM kmarranzino .@LnDDave Context is king. #lrnchat
9:22 PM weisblatt @JaneBozarth but we can keep giving infinitely so who cares? #lrnchat
9:22 PM LnDDave A6) be intentional about your brand to better invite the connections you are looking for. #lrnchat
9:22 PM dreid63 @SheilaS That is so true Sheila. I think there is some connection to introverts and extroverts also. #lrnchat
9:22 PM JustStormy @JD_Dillon Oh THANK HEAVENS #foodporn #lrnchat
9:22 PM JaneBozarth @weisblatt Well, I do. #lrnchat
9:22 PM weisblatt RT @kmarranzino .@LnDDave Context is king. #lrnchat
9:22 PM everlearningnow @weisblatt all the cool kids are doing it? #lrnchat
9:22 PM brunowinck yes but hard (timezone, cultural differences ) RT @JaneBozarth: RT @JD_Dillon A6) Remember that there’s nothing wrong w/ food porn #lrnchat
9:22 PM audioswhite Dig “@Quinnovator: a6) give, communicate clearly, have a sense of humor, don’t take yourself too seriously #lrnchat”
9:22 PM Quinnovator a6) know everything, let everyone know, be certain of your wonderfulness. Or maybe not #lrnchat
9:22 PM paul_learning @Tracy_Parish @LearnNuggets could sketch you and @JaneBozarth playing #lrnchat
9:22 PM dreid63 @allthingsnoisy Me too. I love it when that happens. #lrnchat
9:22 PM kelly_smith01 Complement and credit others #lrnchat
9:22 PM JustStormy a6) make friends with many wise, wise people #lrnchat
9:22 PM rhappe @JaneBozarth we updated the engagement ladder to: lurkers -> contributors -> creators -> collaborators #lrnchat
9:23 PM JaneBozarth RT @rhappe @JaneBozarth we updated the engagement ladder to: lurkers -> contributors -> creators -> collaborators #lrnchat
9:23 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 @DonWettrick advises to really look at another’s profile. How well does it mesh with yours? Old-timey poster from Sears: THIMK.
9:23 PM everlearningnow @JD_Dillon Oh what! #lrnchat
9:23 PM rhappe RT @JaneBozarth: Make friends. Don’t just engage in businesschat. @learnnuggets draws. I love ukulele. @tracy_parish likes camping. Like th…
9:23 PM briandusablon For realz. Some of my best friendships started on Twitter. RT @JaneBozarth: Make friends. Don’t just engage in businesschat. #lrnchat
9:23 PM ChayneDaisy @JaneBozarth how do you know ppl are lurking? #lrnchat
9:23 PM JaneBozarth @rhappe am guessing you’ve seen Wenger on ‘circles’ of participation? #lrnchat
9:23 PM SheilaS .@weisblatt I run #awcchat & when no one answers/participates, it’s v. frustrating. Lurkers need to (wo)man up at some point. #lrnchat
9:23 PM stipton Sorry if seem behind in answers tonight, my laps been commandeered. They don’t care about social learning. #LRNchat http://t.co/6D56jLKtGJ
9:24 PM ryantracey RT @rhappe: @JaneBozarth that’s much easier to answer. People who just throw links at me (particularly if they cover old ground again & aga…
9:24 PM lrnchat QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:24 PM JD_Dillon RT @lrnchat QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:24 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat < already?
9:24 PM JaneBozarth @SheilaS @weisblatt Testify. #lrnchat
9:24 PM krovine RT @JustStormy: a6) make friends with many wise, wise people #lrnchat
9:24 PM weisblatt @SheilaS I guess I’m getting spoiled by very active chats. I can understand your problem. #lrnchat
9:24 PM everlearningnow A6) Stop RT everything. #lrnchat
9:24 PM rhappe @ChayneDaisy @JaneBozarth seems to have a good handle on digital body language 🙂 #lrnchat
9:24 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:24 PM kwooleyy RT @LnDDave: A6) be intentional about your brand to better invite the connections you are looking for. #lrnchat
9:24 PM weisblatt RT @lrnchat QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:24 PM everlearningnow A6) Stop RT more than one tweet every few hours. #lrnchat
9:24 PM mirgray RT @JaneBozarth: DON”T LURK. I WILL SO OUT YOU. #lrnchat
9:24 PM Quinnovator thanks to participants and moderators for another wise and witty #lrnchat!
9:24 PM dreid63 @LnDDave That kind of clarity is so helpful particularly in creating meaningful discussion and connection David. #lrnchat
9:24 PM MaryGMSEd @stipton cuuuuuuuuuuuute! #lrnchat
9:24 PM kmarranzino RT @lrnchat: QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:25 PM WonderPix RT @everlearningnow: A6) Stop RT everything. #lrnchat
9:25 PM JaneBozarth RT @SheilaS: .@weisblatt I run #awcchat & when no one answers/participates, it’s v. frustrating. Lurkers need to (wo)man up at some point. …
9:25 PM everlearningnow A6) Use @buffer if you’ve got something new to share #lrnchat
9:25 PM AjayPangarkar a6) when seeking out learning remember, stupid people don’t know they’re stupid, but smart people know when they’re stupid #lrnchat
9:25 PM lopta AWrap: I am lopta. I drive around and plug things in. #lrnchat
9:25 PM Tracy_Parish Going to #DevLearn Join me & @trinarimmer for “Designing & Adapting eLearning Projects to the Real-world” #lrnchat http://t.co/6XU4gd2CaE
9:25 PM rhappe @JaneBozarth I obviously know his stuff but would have to refresh on circle of participation #lrnchat
9:25 PM krovine RT @lrnchat: QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:25 PM JustStormy @rhappe isn’t it crazy how we get older we somehow lose that time thing??? #lrnchat
9:25 PM stipton A6) make good use of the “favorites”. send straight to Diigo so I can review when I’m not in danger of “squirrel” #LRNchat
9:25 PM LearnNuggets RT @JaneBozarth: Make friends. Don’t just engage in businesschat. @learnnuggets draws. I love ukulele. @tracy_parish likes camping. Like th…
9:25 PM sealizis @Quinnovator Thanks for having these! #lrnchat
9:25 PM WonderPix @everlearningnow >Sorry, had to 🙂 #lrnchat
9:25 PM JustStormy RT @lrnchat: QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:25 PM srLeoSalazar “@weisblatt: RT @kmarranzino .@LnDDave Context is king. #lrnchat” <<< love it! Mind if I adopt that as my personal motto?
9:25 PM dreid63 Deborah from Toronto (newcomer). It’s been fun – thanks! #lrnchat
9:26 PM JD_Dillon Thanks for a fun #lrnchat! If you’re headed to #DevLearn you better say HI.
9:26 PM rhappe @SheilaS @weisblatt in our community, we totally call people out… shamelessly, and put them on the spot (a bit) #lrnchat
9:26 PM Tracy_Parish Tracy Parish, ID, Healthcare. Great to see so many new faces here tonight & amazing to see others return time & time again. Great #lrnchat
9:26 PM SheilaS AWrap. I co-founded @TourismCurrents; online & in-person training in social media for tourism. #lrnchat
9:26 PM LnDDave RT @lrnchat: QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
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Thanks for another fun chat.
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9:26 PM MaryGMSEd Qwrap) Mary G from Greenbelt, MD. And Os are ahead 12-4 In case you follow baseball.#lrnchat
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9:27 PM kmarranzino AWrap) Ken Marranzino: Learning manager, car-guy, father, husband, bad-pun-maker, cartoon voice impersonator… #lrnchat
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9:28 PM SheilaS @cherylannmc Thank you for saying Hi! 🙂 #lrnchat
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9:30 PM JaneBozarth RT @rhappe: @ChayneDaisy @JaneBozarth seems to have a good handle on digital body language 🙂 #lrnchat
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9:30 PM lrnchat Thanks everyone for joining #lrnchat tonight. See you next week! Don’t forget to look for weekly transcripts at http://t.co/ijNIXq164N

Transcript of #lrnchat 5/7/09

5:31:00 pm  Quinnovator: welcome! To start, as always, “What did you
learn today?” #lrnchat
5:31:46 pm KoreenOlbrish: Good evening learning tweeps! I’m covering
for @marciamarcia tonight with her usual partner in crime,
@quinnovator #lrnchat
5:31:53 pm Quinnovator: @marciamarcia and @moehlert are at a special
event, so @KoreenOlbrish and I are your hosts, as much as anyone is 🙂
#lrnchat
5:31:58 pm gminks: I am too braindead to remember if I learned
anything today!! #lrnchat
5:32:27 pm Quinnovator: @gminks well, you learned that! #lrnchat
5:32:40 pm KoreenOlbrish: I learned that often you just need to ask
for what you want #lrnchat
5:33:27 pm silverchirps: Today I learned about @tweetgrid. #lrnchat
5:33:51 pm Quinnovator: wonder who all is out there tonite? if nothing
else, just say “hello” #lrnchat
5:34:00 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator 2day learned sometimes you have
to build a new box. #lrnchat
5:34:20 pm Quinnovator: @silverchirps that’s something I *don’t* know,
what’s @tweetgrid? #lrnchat
5:34:31 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth to think out of? #lrnchat
5:34:36 pm starweaver: Today I learned how complacent I’d become with
a big accomplishment when continuing to push myself will make it an
even bigger one #lrnchat
5:34:41 pm gminks: I learned that talking to executives can be very
taxing #lrnchat
5:35:01 pm Quinnovator: @starweaver that sounds like a great lesson!
#lrnchat
5:35:06 pm jilliant: Hi! I’m out here, but not full of any exciting
new things learned today! #lrnchat
5:35:13 pm KoreenOlbrish: @starweaver wow, that’s a great lesson!
#lrnchat
5:35:15 pm Quinnovator: @gminks when we should be taxing the
executives? #lrnchat
5:35:23 pm silverchirps: @Quinnovator @tweetgrid is like tweetchat and
does a little bit more. #lrnchat
5:35:30 pm Quinnovator: @jilliant only so far! #lrnchat
5:35:37 pm KoreenOlbrish: @Quinnovator jinx! i owe you a Coke…
#lrnchat
5:35:49 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator yes, sometimes out of box not
enough. #lrnchat
5:36:17 pm Quinnovator: @silverchirps will have to check it out!
#lrnchat
5:36:58 pm shantarohse: Hi all. Today I learned I can’t multitask.
Actually I knew this already. #lrnchat
5:37:36 pm Quinnovator: I learned a bit more about managing groups in
Ning #lrnchat
5:37:42 pm tgrevatt: Good evening from Ottawa! #lrnchat/
5:37:56 pm KoreenOlbrish: @shantarohse lol, with all the windows i
keep open, i usually *lose* my multi tasks #lrnchat
5:38:04 pm shantarohse: @JaneBozarth Where else can you go once you
are out of the box? #lrnchat
5:38:08 pm Quinnovator: @shantarohse well, most people can multitask,
but they’re not as effective as when they don’t (research says) #lrnchat
5:38:22 pm silverchirps: @Quinnovator @tweetgrid is great for live
events such as this and now I am using tweetgrid.com #lrnchat
5:38:23 pm Quinnovator: @tgrevatt g’day! #lrnchat
5:38:25 pm JaneBozarth: @shantarohse Friend says she “unitasks”.
#lrnchat
5:39:21 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth I try to ‘unitask’ but get..oh,
look at the shiny new email! #lrnchat
5:39:55 pm jilliant: @Quinnovator and @shantarohse For some reason I
am only effective when I multitask. #lrnchat
5:39:59 pm gminks: @BlancheMaynard you should join #lrnchat!!
5:40:15 pm starweaver: @KoreenOlbrish yeah got me totally refocused on
a very important thing to me that I’d been letting slide a bit –
thanks to a friend #lrnchat
5:40:16 pm tgrevatt: I’m having issues getting tweetchat to display
posts, can anyone recommend another easy way to view the chat, pls
#lrnchat
5:40:19 pm Quinnovator: OK, here’s Q1: “how is play different for
adults, and how does that affect games for learning?” #lrnchat
5:40:38 pm shantarohse: @jilliant You MUST share your secret! #lrnchat
5:40:50 pm Quinnovator: @jilliant some cognitive overhead keeps you
from diverging, (i play solitaire on phone conferences), but too
much… #lrnchat
5:41:06 pm KoreenOlbrish: @starweaver its a true friend that will call
you out 😉 #lrnchat
5:41:14 pm silverchirps: RT @Quinnovator: @shantarohse The brain
cannot really do multitask it is just switching rapidly from one task
to another. #lrnchat
5:41:21 pm Quinnovator: @tgrevatt @silverchirps recommended tweetgrid
#lrnchat
5:41:21 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator I am learning right now that
participating in #lrnchat on iphone in moving car harder than I
expected…
5:41:23 pm BradnDeedo: #lrnchat: hello all upgrading OS now so using
iPod to lurk
5:41:25 pm dbolen: games should allow us to discover something, not
just win #lrnchat
5:41:46 pm KoreenOlbrish: I think play is different in that most
adults play with a purpose…don’t usually play for play’s sake #lrnchat
5:41:52 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth LOL #lrnchat
5:41:53 pm BlancheMaynard: I’ve learned that there’s something good in
everyone, but that it takes longer to figure out what it is in some
people #lrnchat
5:41:56 pm CConkey: Conkey is listening tonight on LrnChat – I just
learned from @Jimmysky and @moehlert that Everynote now has a link
into twitter
5:42:27 pm Quinnovator: @dbolen Raph Koster says all games are
learning, but yes! #lrnchat
5:42:27 pm KoreenOlbrish: @JaneBozarth oh drive safe!!! #lrnchat
5:42:40 pm silverchirps: @JaneBozarth I used my Iphone last week and I
was always 5 to 10 minutes behind everybody. #lrnchat
5:42:53 pm Priaak: I learned about the problems colored text boxes
create when a word file is converted into pdf #lrnchat/
5:42:53 pm starweaver: @KoreenOlbrish Indeed! This is a person who has
been instrumental in this particular accomplishement & whose opinion I
value a lot #lrnchat
5:42:57 pm VWassessments: listening 2 presentation in SL, scanning all
tweets showing up on tweetdeck & tweeting this. #lrnchat
5:42:58 pm Quinnovator: @KoreenOlbrish I sometimes play just as a
break…tho’ maybe that’s a purpose #lrnchat
5:43:00 pm roninchef: Hi everyone. I learned that a little bit of
discipline goes a long way. #lrnchat
5:43:07 pm CConkey: Conkey is listening tonight on LrnChat – I just
learned from @Jimmysky and @moehlert that Everynote now h… less than
a minute ago #lrnchat
5:43:16 pm gminks: @KoreenOlbrish I play for play’s sake — as an
escape #lrnchat
5:43:19 pm jmarrapodi: Evening, #lrnchat from Providence. #lrnchat
5:43:24 pm BradnDeedo: #lrnchat learned to put a few pieces to the
puzzle together. Need to bring some colleagues onboard so I can
collaborate
5:43:52 pm starweaver: @BlancheMaynard lol – I like that! I think that
one goes up in my cube! #lrnchat
5:43:54 pm KoreenOlbrish: @dbolen i like that…do you think adults
play to learn, or play to win? #lrnchat
5:43:57 pm shantarohse: Are there any gamers among us? #lrnchat
5:44:05 pm Quinnovator: @gminks but I’d play for purpose if there were
games that were about what I need to learn #lrnchat
5:44:19 pm Quinnovator: @shantarohse I design them, does that count? I
play some… #lrnchat
5:44:46 pm KoreenOlbrish: i’d consider myself a gamer, and i typically
play to relax…but i do want to win 😉 #lrnchat
5:44:57 pm tgrevatt: Hmmm, let’s see how quickly I can learn
tweetgrid, apologies for the test post #lrnchat
5:45:01 pm shantarohse: @Quinnovator 🙂 #lrnchat
5:45:04 pm jmarrapodi: @KoreenOlbrish I think it may not necessarily
be an adult differential about playing to win, but gender related.
#lrnchat
5:45:12 pm BlancheMaynard: I’ve learned that 2 people can be very
different yet be the best of friends if they forget about judging
everything the other does #lrnchat
5:45:22 pm Quinnovator: play is different for adults in that they can
do more abstract reasoning, but still need meta-cog reflection to get
lesson #lrnchat
5:45:30 pm rthorprichard: @silverchirps @Quinnovator, I’m a fan of
twitterfall for these real-time conversations. #lrnchat
5:45:35 pm starweaver: @gminks @KoreenOlbrish I don’t play enough
these days. Need to remember to do that more #lrnchat
5:45:39 pm dbolen: @koreenolbrish hope to learn, remember you learn
from failing #lrnchat
5:45:50 pm gminks: @Quinnovator I would too – but I also play just to
play. It is why I love rock band #lrnchat
5:45:51 pm tgrevatt: @shantarohse I work with them too, learning
games. Play them v poorly. #lrnchat
5:45:59 pm rthorprichard: I’m a little late to the chat, so a little
catching up is in order… #lrnchat
5:46:03 pm VWassessments: Was sent this today – been out 4 a couple
wks IQ loss from multitasking http://bit.ly/GB5CE #lrnchat
5:46:32 pm gminks: @shantarohse I game but not as much as the rest of
the members of my household #lrnchat
5:46:43 pm carolwhit: I’ve learned that I still don’t want to work for
stifling corps, but may have to go back to that if I want a roof and a
bed! #lrnchat
5:46:51 pm jmarrapodi: Many hate to fail. Won’t take risks. Think that
influences the gamer-liking or not? #lrnchat
5:46:56 pm starweaver: @jmarrapodi that’s how I see it – but not
entirely gender related – mainly though #lrnchat
5:46:59 pm Quinnovator: @gminks I’d play more, but time! Wish the
casual game movement would get more steam; I want an RPG I can play
casually #lrnchat
5:47:10 pm dbolen: play like dancing, important to try, to dance, even
badly like Matt Harding #lrnchat
5:47:10 pm KoreenOlbrish: funny, i’ve designed learning forever, but
if i had to learn something i’d rather play. teachers make the worst
students 🙂 #lrnchat
5:47:15 pm shantarohse: My only experience has been in WOW. I am a
rank beginner and self conscious. But have a friend showing me. #lrnchat
5:47:17 pm rthorprichard: @jilliant Multitasking the the curse of the
competent. Or at least that’s what I like to think. 🙂 #lrnchat
5:47:59 pm Quinnovator: @jmarrapodi games can mitigate perf-anxiety
when you play on your own, but games for hard-core gamer aren’t that
approachable #lrnchat
5:48:11 pm jilliant: @shantarohse I guess I’m a gamer too. #lrnchat
5:48:12 pm roninchef: I tend to go between open world games and linear
games as my mood suits me. Somedays you just want a clear goal. #lrnchat
5:48:14 pm BlancheMaynard: I’ve learned to get teased without getting
angry. It’s part of the teasing game, a game that I enjoy thoroughly
#lrnchat
5:48:20 pm jmarrapodi: @starweaver Wondering how far the tilt is.
Females tend to collaborate naturally. Watch 8 year old boys on the
playground. Compete! #lrnchat
5:48:34 pm VWassessments: gamer #lrnchat
5:48:40 pm Quinnovator: @shantarohse I did the free 10day trial, and
stopped WoW after that; addiction risk! #lrnchat
5:48:50 pm tmiket: @KoreenOlbrish Best would be they learn WHILE they
play to win? #lrnchat
5:48:52 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @dbolen play like dancing, important to
try, to dance, even badly like Matt Harding #lrnchat
5:48:57 pm tgrevatt: @Quinnovator Agree, any games requiring
sophisticated controllers drive me crazy, make me feel a failure. Love
one click games #lrnchat
5:49:30 pm jilliant: @rthorprichard I’ll buy that! #lrnchat
5:49:32 pm jmarrapodi: @BlancheMaynard Oh, do tell the secret. I still
want to sock ’em. #lrnchat
5:49:54 pm starweaver: @jmarrapodi I’d say pretty – but I never like
to talk in absolutes about gender cause I break just bout all of the
“girl rules” 🙂 #lrnchat
5:49:53 pm tgrevatt: I think adults need to remember the importance of
play (watch kids) and the value of whimsy too. Never too old for
whimsy. #lrnchat
5:49:55 pm roninchef: Now casual pick up and play games are a
different animal. Lower entry point broader appeal. Bejeweled for
example. #lrnchat
5:50:06 pm rthorprichard: @jmarrapodi Do you think the fear of failure
is learned over time or something generational? #lrnchat
5:50:13 pm Quinnovator: RT tgrevatt Agree, any games requiring
sophisticated controllers drive me crazy, make me feel a failure. Love
one click games #lrnchat
5:50:28 pm BradnDeedo: I like Civilization series n loved myst series
#lrnchat
5:50:30 pm VWassessments: what do you consider adult? lot of 30
something gamers out there. #lrnchat
5:50:35 pm jmarrapodi: @rthorprichard Glad your here though. 🙂 #lrnchat
5:50:44 pm KoreenOlbrish: @jmarrapodi i ❤ the gender dynamics of
games! but designing for everyone is the challenge for learning #lrnchat
5:50:45 pm starweaver: @tmiket best to learn you don’t always win when
you play – the younger the better #lrnchat
5:51:08 pm rthorprichard: best games ever: The Oregon Trail. Lemonade
Stand. #lrnchat
5:51:17 pm shantarohse: @Quinnovator Am currently readying Digital
culture, play, and identity : a World of Warcraft reader – academic +
funny #lrnchat
5:51:20 pm Quinnovator: @roninchef thinking a hybrid: story,
exploration, advancement, but not complicated key commands, and
reasonable level of diff #lrnchat
5:51:22 pm jmarrapodi: @gminks Do you think gaming is “caught” like
reading? Families that read a lot produce kids that like to read.
#lrnchat
5:51:26 pm dbolen: prefer physical games, tactile badminton, team
volleyball, there you learn #lrnchat
5:51:31 pm tgrevatt: @rthorprichard Feel of failure also related to
willingness to attempt things – eg. degree student vs technicians in
Physics #lrnchat
5:51:46 pm Quinnovator: @starweaver great point: best to learn you
don’t always win when you play – the younger the better #lrnchat
5:51:48 pm jmarrapodi: @rthorprichard Thou art showing thy age, sir.
#lrnchat
5:51:50 pm VWassessments: @tgrevatt – watch a kid play a minigame in
Club Penguin – great demonstration #lrnchat
5:51:50 pm jilliant: Are there any games where the goal isn’t winning?
#lrnchat
5:51:58 pm roninchef: @VWassessments 30 somethings make up the
majority these days. It isn’t really a kids thing anymore. #lrnchat
5:52:08 pm bschlenker: #lrnchat World of Warcraft still has my
attention – Many different ways to play – You’re never really “done”
5:52:23 pm starweaver: @VWassessments adult is whatever age you put a
roof over yer own head & food in yer own mouth without anyones help
#lrnchat
5:52:23 pm KoreenOlbrish: @jmarrapodi interesting idea! my kids love
games…i have *NO* idea where they get that from… #lrnchat
5:52:25 pm Quinnovator: @jmarrapodi yes, my kids read, but they game,
and I didn’t much (son’s practically an addict 🙂 #lrnchat
5:52:37 pm tgrevatt: @jilliant check out Flower on the PS3, beautiful
game #lrnchat
5:52:49 pm CConkey: @shantarohse Did Wow for 4 months with Acedemic
guild out of UoInd – that was a blast and of course it was all
academic 🙂 #lrnchat
5:52:49 pm Quinnovator: @jilliant you mean, like the goal is
losing? 🙂 #lrnchat
5:53:02 pm jmarrapodi: @dbolen A vote for the kinesthetic learner!
Volleyball etc. Had someone try to convince me that computer gaming
was kinesthetic-NOT #lrnchat
5:53:04 pm gminks: @jmarrapodi I think gaming + reading are very
related #lrnchat
5:53:10 pm KoreenOlbrish: @bschlenker is it frustrating to never be
done playing a game? i wonder what you learn from that? #lrnchat
5:53:11 pm VWassessments: @roninchef – I’m one of them. #lrnchat
5:53:15 pm MariaOD: @Quinnovator I don’t play games but a big believer
that games enhance learning #lrnchat
5:53:19 pm roninchef: @jilliant Peggle (SP?) #lrnchat
5:53:43 pm starweaver: @Quinnovator best lessons I’ve ever learned
have come through failure. #lrnchat
5:53:43 pm Quinnovator: @jmarrapodi try the Wii, great innovation in
motion-sensing game play, a real advancement #lrnchat
5:53:54 pm JaneBozarth: Are there any games where the goal isn’t
winning? #lrnchat (via @jilliant)
5:54:07 pm Quinnovator: @MariaOD sound like a theorist! 😉 #lrnchat
5:54:08 pm jmarrapodi: @Quinnovator Wonder then if it’s a peer thing.
Like the digital natives. The trendy toys. Then the parents catch on
like Facebook? #lrnchat
5:54:11 pm KoreenOlbrish: I think the Wii is by far the most gender-
neutral gaming experience i’ve seen. Ease of use, kinesthetic
controls, simple design… #lrnchat
5:54:14 pm shantarohse: @CConkey Maybe the Q should be Academics
rather than adults and games. 😉 #lrnchat
5:54:24 pm rthorprichard: @tgrevatt Very true. Maybe it’s about using
positive reinforcement for curiosity. #lrnchat
5:54:33 pm tgrevatt: I had a Rockband guitar breakthrough on Tue eve,
can now get through easy levels, woo hoo! Very satisfying. #lrnchat
5:54:36 pm KoreenOlbrish: @Quinnovator Srsly, you’re in my head
tonight! #lrnchat
5:54:39 pm BlancheMaynard: I like slow games that give you time to
develop a relationship with your opponents. Games should be
challenging for the mind + soul #lrnchat
5:54:44 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth @jilliant but whatever the goal
is, even losing, you win if you obtain it, no? #lrnchat
5:55:02 pm jmarrapodi: @Quinnovator Agreed. That is kinesthetic, for
sure. Total body invovlement. Moving a mouse, I’m not so sure. #lrnchat
5:55:14 pm starweaver: @JaneBozarth depends on yer definition of
winning! #lrnchat
5:55:20 pm gminks: me too RT @starweaver: @Quinnovator best lessons
I’ve ever learned have come through failure. #lrnchat
5:55:20 pm rthorprichard: @twfall instead of calling it “fall size”,
how about “tweet history”? #lrnchat
5:55:37 pm KoreenOlbrish: @tgrevatt oh, i need a break through on
Guitar Hero. I’m losing my Rock Goddess confidence 😉 #lrnchat
5:55:46 pm Quinnovator: @BlancheMaynard absolutely: Sid Maier “games
are a series of interesting decisions” #lrnchat
5:56:03 pm dbolen: all the world’s a game, we’re merely players, Billy
Shakespere #lrnchat
5:56:05 pm gminks: @JaneBozarth sure — D&D is not a win game. unless
you play with jerks. #lrnchat
5:56:09 pm jmarrapodi: @BlancheMaynard Q- Are you usually social in
life too? If you have a Myers Briggs world, there’s an E and an F in
your profile? #lrnchat
5:56:14 pm VWassessments: w/ games & reading – have u ever started 2
read a book/play a game get so immersed that u continued until the sun
came up. #lrnchat
5:56:15 pm KoreenOlbrish: interesting to think about the tipping point
from challenging to frustrating…what makes us *quit* playing? #lrnchat
5:56:23 pm Priaak: @jmarrapodi try Wii Fit #lrnchat/
5:56:24 pm Quinnovator: @gminks @starweaver Shank: “you’ve got to
fail, to learn” #lrnchat
5:56:24 pm roninchef: I tend to develop software sims like I would a
video game. Add the chance of failure and people tend to remember.
#lrnchat
5:56:39 pm rthorprichard: @KoreenOlbrish I completely agree WRT Wii.
It’s as fundamental as the GUI was to computing in the early 80s.
#lrnchat
5:56:43 pm tgrevatt: @KoreenOlbrish I wish I knew how it happened!
Still can’t play with my tongue in though! #lrnchat
5:56:47 pm roninchef: @gminks Or for money. #lrnchat
5:56:48 pm jmarrapodi: @rthorprichard Tell me more about reinforcing
curiousity. I like that. #lrnchat
5:57:21 pm jilliant: @Quinnovator True – but the goal could be to
explore, to learn, to play. If that is achieved, it isn’t really
winning… #lrnchat
5:57:33 pm tgrevatt: @KoreenOlbrish I quit when there is not good
scaffolding, no fail mode on Rockband is fab. I am a lazy learner
these days. #lrnchat
5:57:35 pm Quinnovator: @KoreenOlbrish right, we spend a lot of time
wondering how to make games fun, what makes them ‘unfun’? #lrnchat
5:57:46 pm shantarohse: @jilliant Perhaps it is easier to talk about
games that aren’t about competition? #lrnchat
5:58:09 pm starweaver: @gminks we teach our kids that there is no
failure & that “everyone is a winner” all the time which fails them as
adults #lrnchat
5:58:12 pm Quinnovator: @roninchef moreover, the failure can be
useful: if you have the right alternatives (misconceptions), you can
address them! #lrnchat
5:58:30 pm CConkey: @KoreenOlbrish Not being able to break 100
landings in FlightControl (Iphone app) is what makes me quit – gets
frustrating #lrnchat
5:58:36 pm jmarrapodi: @VWassessments Oh yeah. Another example of
Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi’s Flow. #lrnchat
5:59:05 pm KoreenOlbrish: in designing learning games, most
organizations don’t like people to be able to fail, yet failure’s a
powerful lrng tool #lrnchat
5:59:05 pm rthorprichard: @KoreenOlbrish Great question! (But
incredibly tough to answer w/o thinking too hard. Certainly not easy
to answer in 140 chars!) #lrnchat
5:59:09 pm Quinnovator: @jilliant one theorist-four types of players:
social, explorer, achiever, trouble-maker #lrnchat
5:59:14 pm tgrevatt: @Quinnovator ‘unfun’ if failure comes too
quickly, for me Forza Racing was too tricky, so gave up. WII is
forgiving, incremental #lrnchat
5:59:31 pm roninchef: @shantarohse Like the SIMS or Spore? There has
to be a hook something for people to come back to. #lrnchat
6:00:01 pm gminks: @Quinnovator we have a game to teach ITIL
principles, and you fail for the first part of the day. LOL its a
great game #lrnchat
6:00:03 pm Quinnovator: @tgrevatt yep, right level of challenge:
Czikszentmihalyi’s Flow #lrnchat
6:00:14 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @Quinnovator @jilliant one theorist-four
types of players: social, explorer, achiever, trouble-maker. I know
which one i am… #lrnchat
6:00:14 pm dbolen: how many play solitaire on conference calls? #lrnchat
6:00:26 pm BradnDeedo: @jilliant winning is rather nebulous acheiving
a goal is that winning? I feel exhiliration solving problems I see
myself as winning #lrnchat
6:00:26 pm VWassessments: @jmarrapodi – it helps me explain immersion
to non-gaming instructors who have had that experience w/ reading
#lrnchat
6:00:28 pm jmarrapodi: @tgrevatt Maybe that’s why I liked WII. One of
the only games I played longer than a bit. #lrnchat
6:00:37 pm gminks: RT @KoreenOlbrish: in designing learning games,
most orgs don’t like people to be able to fail, yet failure’s a
powerful lrng tool #lrnchat
6:00:51 pm roninchef: Good games are a lot like good books. I just
need one more minute, I want to see what happens next. #lrnchat
6:01:14 pm VWassessments: @tgrevatt – like Papert’s discussion of
“hard fun” #lrnchat
6:01:21 pm rthorprichard: @starweaver @gminks Granted, that’s an
issue. But for gaming (and learning more broadly) emphasis on
experimentation is good. #lrnchat
6:01:31 pm tgrevatt: @gminks better to fail in a game than in real
life, hence such widespread military adoption of training games #lrnchat
6:01:32 pm KoreenOlbrish: Love the momentum! So, Question 2: how are
you making your learning experiences more engaging? #lrnchat
6:01:34 pm starweaver: @dbolen normally I’m coding during conference
calls – poorly, but I’m at least getting work done #lrnchat
6:01:37 pm Priaak: I wouldn’t mind failing if its just me and the
computer/game in isolation but if there is a team I wouldn’t like
failing #lrnchat/
6:01:53 pm jmarrapodi: @roninchef Games then, must have a good story
in them to keep you compelled. #lrnchat
6:01:59 pm roninchef: @gminks I you design a game without the element
of failure is it still a game? Nothing ventured and all that. #lrnchat
6:02:13 pm VWassessments: @dbolen – depends on where I am – sometimes
its WoW #lrnchat
6:02:24 pm Quinnovator: elements of game include challenge: implies
risk/failure #lrnchat
6:02:33 pm rthorprichard: @jmarrapodi Essentially, it’s about teaching
brainstorming, systematic evaluation, trial and observation, and
honing each time. #lrnchat
6:02:41 pm KoreenOlbrish: is failure engaging? I love the challenge of
trying to win something difficult #lrnchat
6:02:53 pm starweaver: @rthorprichard @gminks but what do you learn if
your experiment doesn’t fail vs. If it does?that’s the point I was
making #lrnchat
6:03:03 pm rthorprichard: Wow. I’m surprised I could answer that in
140 chars! #lrnchat
6:03:08 pm Quinnovator: (other elements: meaningful story that learner
cares about, feedback, choice, … ) #lrnchat
6:03:17 pm VWassessments: started you use the phrase cytie ( causes
you to ignore everything) #lrnchat
6:03:24 pm postrockalypse: @lrnchat Hey sexy, haven’t seen you around
before! Do you come here, often?
6:03:27 pm KoreenOlbrish: @rthorprichard well played, sir #lrnchat
6:03:30 pm starweaver: @Priaak no one LIKES to fail. #lrnchat
6:04:01 pm MariaOD: @KoreenOlbrish element of competition and teams
with reward #lrnchat
6:04:01 pm bschlenker: @jmarrapodi how then would you explain card
games, and other “casual game”? No story line there, but VERY
addictive. #lrnchat
6:04:04 pm Quinnovator: they who fail fastest win? #lrnchat
6:04:10 pm shantarohse: RT KoreenOlbrish is failure engaging? I love
the challenge of trying to win something difficult #lrnchat
6:04:20 pm roninchef: @jmarrapodi To a degree, but it is more than
that. Games are movies, books, and our own imagination braided
together. #lrnchat
6:04:26 pm postrockalypse: @lrnchat when the answer is ready the
question will appear. if the artist cannot find the way, then the way
cannot be found. @mckenna @thc
6:04:35 pm rthorprichard: I learned to speak Japanese (and can still
speak it to this day) because I was taught to blurt it out, even if I
think it’s wrong. #lrnchat
6:04:50 pm starweaver: @KoreenOlbrish If someone or something tells me
I cant do something my stubborn hot headed italian side comes out &
says “oh yeah?” #lrnchat
6:04:54 pm dbolen: do you remember the successes or the failures?
#lrnchat
6:04:55 pm gminks: @starweaver no one likes to fail, but I love to
break things and put them back together. is that the same thing?
#lrnchat
6:04:59 pm Quinnovator: @KoreenOlbrish believe there’s vastly
different levels of comfort with ‘fail’ depending on self-confidence,
context, reward, etc #lrnchat
6:05:07 pm KoreenOlbrish: @starweaver no one likes to fail, but does
it prompt you to try harder? is failure a catalyst for engagement &
ultimately success ? #lrnchat
6:05:12 pm tgrevatt: Failure is engaging if you are compelled to try
again, ie close failure. Or think of gambling – I’ll win it next time
etc #lrnchat
6:05:13 pm jilliant: @KoreenOlbrish Failure is more engaging if
winning is nearly attainable. I’ll try again as long as winning still
seems possible #lrnchat
6:05:36 pm silverchirps: RT @Quinnovator: (other elements: meaningful
story that learner cares about, feedback, choice, … ) and consider
prior knowledge #lrnchat
6:05:39 pm jmarrapodi: @bschlenker So much for THAT theory. Good
point. The winning, maybe there. #lrnchat
6:05:40 pm MariaOD: @bschlenker build on the tried and true #lrnchat
6:05:50 pm VWassessments: @priaak – teams fail too one of most famous
LeRoy Jenkins http://bit.ly/TuHEj warning strong language #lrnchat
6:06:00 pm JaneBozarth: JaneBozarth@tgrevatt Love yr description of
figuring it out being ‘satisfying’. Why I love platform iPhone games
like Bobby Carrot #lrnchat
6:06:05 pm shantarohse: @rthorprichard How were you taught to “blurt
it out” And was it engaging? #lrnchat
6:06:05 pm Priaak: wouldn’t what is failure be different from person
to person unless the game defines it? #lrnchat/
6:06:17 pm starweaver: @dbolen does that have to be an either or? I
remember both for a success usually doesn’t come without a failure or
two alongside it #lrnchat
6:06:18 pm starweaver: @dbolen does that have to be an either or? I
remember both for a success usually doesn’t come without a failure or
two alongside it #lrnchat
6:06:19 pm VWassessments: @rthorprichard good job! #lrnchat
6:06:21 pm Quinnovator: @jilliant then there’s behaviorist research
about reinforcement schedules: partial random reinforcement most
powerful (e.g. Vegas) #lrnchat
6:06:24 pm rthorprichard: @starweaver wow. now that’s impressive
(coding during conf. calls). #lrnchat
6:06:26 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @jilliant Failure is more engaging if
winning is nearly attainable. I’ll try again as long as winning still
seems possible YES! #lrnchat
6:06:58 pm starweaver: @gminks noooo – yer just inquisitive.. And a
little strange but I digresss 😛 #lrnchat
6:06:58 pm roninchef: I didn’t like failure for a long time. Now
failure is part of the process. Just a step on the road to success.
#lrnchat
6:07:44 pm jmarrapodi: RT @Roninchef “Games are movies, books, and our
own imagination braided together.” Love that. #lrnchat
6:07:46 pm VWassessments: @dbolen in games you remember the failures
(quests) that turned into successes #lrnchat
6:07:48 pm starweaver: @KoreenOlbrish for me personally? HELL Yes. For
others? Not necessarily. #lrnchat
6:08:00 pm rthorprichard: @starweaver unless it causes the whole class
to start laughing. (Common occurrence while learning Japanese.) 😉
#lrnchat
6:08:00 pm tgrevatt: Engagement also tied to relevancy of material, we
see it with usability testing, choose the right demographic for
testing #lrnchat
6:08:14 pm bschlenker: @JaneBozarth There might be a game in
that…#lrnchat while driving…can anyone code that and have it for
us for next week?
6:08:45 pm roninchef: Without failure how do you know if your doing it
right? #lrnchat
6:08:48 pm starweaver: @jilliant for me, the more impossible &
improbable the more I strive for it. But that comes from my background
#lrnchat
6:08:51 pm Quinnovator: @tgrevatt yep, two types of meaningful: action
really related to context, and context of interest to learner/player
#lrnchat
6:08:54 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q2: how are you making your learning
experiences more engaging? (perhaps besides failure 🙂 #lrnchat
6:09:18 pm gminks: @starweaver heh so you love me. 🙂 #lrnchat
6:09:24 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @roninchef Without failure how do you
know if your doing it right? #lrnchat
6:09:49 pm Quinnovator: RT KoreenOlbrish Q2: how are you making your
learning experiences more engaging? (perhaps besides failure 🙂 #lrnchat
6:10:06 pm tgrevatt: @KoreenOlbrish Also appropriate use of humour and
audio usually have to tone it down for clients though 😦 #lrnchat
6:10:13 pm starweaver: @rthorprichard heh. Something to pass the time
and keep the mind occupied. Its usually crappy & errored filled, but
its something #lrnchat
6:10:26 pm VWassessments: always have to test the physics of the game
#lrnchat
6:10:27 pm Quinnovator: I find that you can make even multiple choice
Q’s like mini-scenario challenges #lrnchat
6:10:38 pm jmarrapodi: @dbolen Leaders are remembered for the success
of saving something from failure. Particularly new CEOs. #lrnchat
6:11:14 pm gminks: more engaging – adding more multi-media (camtasias
instead of text, etc) #lrnchat
6:11:21 pm KoreenOlbrish: i try to develop characters and storyline
for engagement. Give learners something to relate to, to get invested
in. #lrnchat
6:11:22 pm rthorprichard: Wieden+Kennedy (marketers for Coke, Nike)
are big on failure. They have a HUGE sign that says “Fail Harder” http://bit.ly/8WLue
#lrnchat
6:11:52 pm shantarohse: Learning from / being engaged by failure. I
don’t know. Failure might be over-rated. #lrnchat
6:11:57 pm dbolen: jmarrapodi except when they fail months/years later
#lrnchat
6:12:06 pm emd5005: RT @tgrevatt Engagement also tied to relevancy of
material, we see it w/ usability testing, choose right demographic for
testing #lrnchat
6:12:06 pm victorlopezg: @Quinnovator hi there! can you explain
further “mini-scenario challenges”? I’m paying attention 🙂 #lrnchat
6:12:08 pm Quinnovator: I like Cathy Moore’s action mapping as a help
towards making elearning engaging/gamelike http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=817
#lrnchat
6:12:08 pm roninchef: @tgrevatt I am using more music these days. As
well as humor. My org builds Vet lab equipment so there is a ton of
potential comedy #lrnchat
6:12:09 pm jmarrapodi: Q2 To make more engaging- connect with the
learner’s reality #lrnchat
6:12:37 pm Quinnovator: @gminks if done well, but can interfere, and
too often see production values trump design #lrnchat
6:12:38 pm JaneBozarth: Q2: really working to find ways of providing
real-world problems for learners to work on #lrnchat
6:12:38 pm KoreenOlbrish: @jmarrapodi LOL, funny to think that as a
new CEO that success might = saving something from failure 🙂 #lrnchat
6:13:21 pm Priaak: provide feedback for both success and failure
#lrnchat/
6:13:25 pm silverchirps: RT @jmarrapodi: Q2 To make more engaging-
connect with the learner’s reality (empathy) #lrnchat
6:13:41 pm rthorprichard: @Quinnovator @jilliant YES! That was just
starting to seep through my mind too. Several lines of research there
related to this. #lrnchat
6:13:47 pm jmarrapodi: To make more engaging – connect with the
learner’s actual need #lrnchat
6:13:56 pm Quinnovator: @victorlopezg instead of “is X a Y or Z”,
something like “in situation A, and have to choose to do Y or Z, you
have been given X” #lrnchat
6:14:00 pm JaneBozarth: There was a tweet earlier today to the tune of
“learning occurs at the edges of the learner’s prior knowledge” #lrnchat
6:14:04 pm roninchef: @jmarrapodi getting to know your audience is key
here. What makes them come to work? #lrnchat
6:14:18 pm KoreenOlbrish: @Quinnovator agree that scenario-based
learning can be powerful. mini-lessons, mini-stories #lrnchat
6:14:32 pm silverchirps: RT @jmarrapodi: To make more engaging –
connect with the learner’s actual need #lrnchat
6:14:46 pm carolwhit: @rthorprichard That’s a Google philosophy too.
Fail many times to get it right, hence all the betas #lrnchat
6:14:46 pm VWassessments: more role play ; more Shaffer’s epistemic
games – placing students in roleplaying where they act as if they are
in profession #lrnchat
6:14:55 pm dbolen: re q2 must be relevant #lrnchat
6:15:00 pm Quinnovator: @victorlopezg it’s about rewriting Q’s to be
interesting decisions, not knowledge recitation #lrnchat
6:15:15 pm gminks: RT @JaneBozarth: There was a tweet earlier today to
the tune of “learning occurs at the edges of the learner’s prior
knowledge” #lrnchat
6:15:30 pm JaneBozarth: Q2 involve target learners in the needs assess
process (usually mgmt, others, not learners) to find THEIR real needs
#lrnchat
6:15:39 pm KoreenOlbrish: @JaneBozarth i like that…relates to an
earlier tweet i saw on scaffolding. support learners till they achieve
the next level #lrnchat
6:16:07 pm Priaak: you can also create branched scenarios based on the
answer the learner selects #lrnchat/
6:16:08 pm marciamarcia: Hoping #lrnchat is great fun tonight. Off to
sleep now after a long day at #ttiv. Speaking tmorrw at 10:50a.
@moehlert will likely tweet it.
6:16:23 pm VWassessments: anybody ever play Budget Hero?#lrnchat
6:16:27 pm rthorprichard: Q2: Making it meaningful and relevant on an
individual level (neither of which are easy) are key ingredients.
#lrnchat
6:16:32 pm tgrevatt: @JaneBozarth Absolutely – get inside the
learners’ heads, and understand their fears too #lrnchat
6:16:37 pm Quinnovator: @victorlopezg for a brief treatment, see: http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=801
#lrnchat
6:16:40 pm jmarrapodi: @marciamarcia Loved following you today. Thanks
for all the updates. #lrnchat
6:16:57 pm KoreenOlbrish: @marciamarcia good night Marcia! Break a leg
tomorrow! #lrnchat
6:16:57 pm JaneBozarth: Ditto on @Quinnovator: trick is to find an
interesting treatment for the instruction. #lrnchat
6:17:17 pm roninchef: @KoreenOlbrish Like a good game, the users
experience should be cumulative. We’re building you up here. #lrnchat
6:17:37 pm Quinnovator: @marciamarcia rock ’em! #lrnchat
6:17:51 pm BlancheMaynard: I’ve learned than when you have to get up
early, you have to go to bed early..even when you don’t feel like it.
Good night! #lrnchat
6:18:12 pm jmarrapodi: Epistemic games for those who don’t know, like
me! http://epistemicgames.org/eg/?cat=5 #lrnchat
6:18:36 pm rthorprichard: Random side question. This is my first
#lrnchat, though I’ve participated in #educhat a few times. How do the
two groups compare/contrast?
6:18:37 pm Quinnovator: @Priaak yep, branching better than linear or
mini and next to full model-driven, pretty good approximation: high
value for low cost #lrnchat
6:18:47 pm carolwhit: @Quinnovator Nice post! Will have to go back and
read it all, but first bits look really helpful. #lrnchat
6:19:01 pm KoreenOlbrish: @roninchef interesting difference btwn games
that “build” & games that you replay. both have their place in
learning design! #lrnchat
6:19:14 pm JaneBozarth: Q2: make sure emphasis is on what they need to
DO, not KNOW #lrnchat . (“Know” is what mgmt says; “do” is what
learner needs).
6:19:26 pm KoreenOlbrish: @BlancheMaynard thanks for joining us!
#lrnchat
6:19:48 pm Quinnovator: @rthorprichard don’t know educhat, think this
is more general (corp/org) rather than K12/highered (that’s a guess)
#lrnchat
6:19:53 pm silverchirps: RT @tgrevatt: @JaneBozarth Absolutely – get
inside the learners’ heads, and understand their fears too (empathy)
#lrnchat
6:20:37 pm KoreenOlbrish: @JaneBozarth VERY important distinction that
ties directly to engagement & motivation. What do they need to DO
differently? #lrnchat
6:20:55 pm rthorprichard: @KoreenOlbrish @roninchef And, there’s using
games for entirely new purposes. E.g., Red vs. Blue series http://bit.ly/pUiCN
#lrnchat
6:20:59 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth make sure emphasis is on what
they need to DO, not KNOW. (“Know” is what mgmt says; “do” is what
learner needs.) #lrnchat
6:21:01 pm jmarrapodi: RT @gminks RT @JaneBozarth: “learning occurs at
the edges of the learner’s prior knowledge” Know what they do know to
bring new. #lrnchat
6:21:24 pm Quinnovator: @KoreenOlbrish yep, what ‘decisions’ do they
need to be able to make that they can’t do now? #lrnchat
6:21:36 pm tgrevatt: @KoreenOlbrish Games are great for learning and
assessing skills, more diff to make them for pure knowledge transfer,
less fun too #lrnchat
6:21:51 pm KoreenOlbrish: @rthorprichard nice! I need to check this
out! Thanks! #lrnchat
6:21:59 pm JaneBozarth: Find real objectives. No one ‘s ever stopped
me in a hallway and asked me to “list” anything. #lrnchat
6:22:23 pm KoreenOlbrish: @tgrevatt lol, yes, sometimes games just
aren’t the answer (unfortunately! ) #lrnchat
6:22:39 pm roninchef: @jmarrapodi Isn’t that one of Gagne’s rules?
#lrnchat
6:22:45 pm jmarrapodi: RT @tgrevatt Games are great for learning and
assessing skills, more diff to make them for pure knowledge transfer,
less fun too #lrnchat
6:23:39 pm Priaak: RT @JaneBozarth: Find real objectives. No one ‘s
ever stopped me in a hallway and asked me to “list” anything. #lrnchat
#lrnchat/
6:23:46 pm gminks: goodnight #lrnchat peoples!
6:23:47 pm VWassessments: @rthorprichard re-watched some Red v. Blue
last night – wondering are the fcaulty ready for this at the inhouse
conference #lrnchat
6:23:53 pm rthorprichard: @KoreenOlbrish The whole premise of RvsB was
based on a bug that allowed the characters to mimic speaking by
bobbing their head. #lrnchat
6:24:25 pm victorlopezg: @Quinnovator nice! assessment and learning
become one -> practice #lrnchat
6:25:12 pm starweaver: @KoreenOlbrish Give someone a reason that they
will need to access this in <insert amount of years> & you will to get
them to learn #lrnchat
6:25:13 pm rthorprichard: @KoreenOlbrish RvsB became so popular that
Microsoft left the bug in (and added other theatrical “bugs”) in later
versions. #lrnchat
6:25:18 pm KoreenOlbrish: @rthorprichard wait, so it was accidental
learning? my favorite 😉 #lrnchat
6:25:38 pm tgrevatt: @victorlopezg Yes, we can do that – it’s a bit
ahead of the adoption curve though, orgs still comfy with train + test
#lrnchat
6:25:47 pm Quinnovator: @KoreenOlbrish sacrilege; games can *always*
be the answer! #lrnchat
6:26:11 pm tgrevatt: @Quinnovator LOL! #lrnchat
6:26:47 pm KoreenOlbrish: @Quinnovator i know, i know…must surrender
my game designer card now. <sigh> #lrnchat
6:26:49 pm roninchef: @KoreenOlbrish Not really accidental. Some
gamers look for the flaws first. To get the edge. RvB was a happy
result of that. #lrnchat
6:26:58 pm Quinnovator: ok, Q3: How do you link games into formal,
performance support, social media? What are the relations? #lrnchat
6:27:14 pm JaneBozarth: @starweaver or number of days! LOL #lrnchat
6:27:27 pm Quinnovator: (we’ve got a game movement going here that I’m
just not going to break) #lrnchat
6:27:51 pm KoreenOlbrish: @roninchef Ah, then a happy accident 🙂
Those are pretty good too. #lrnchat
6:28:09 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator SM could provide good platform
for role-playing games #lrnchat
6:28:10 pm tgrevatt: Q3 – use output of games performance to create
adaptive learning path (game based or otherwise) #lrnchat
6:28:17 pm roninchef: @KoreenOlbrish Bob Ross FTW!!!! #lrnchat
6:28:25 pm KoreenOlbrish: @Quinnovator I actually love the idea of
games for assessment, but tying assessment to games makes them less
fun 😉 #lrnchat
6:28:54 pm rthorprichard: Q3: Staff Trading Cards. The rule: you can’t
do your own. #lrnchat
6:28:57 pm jmarrapodi: @roninchef Gagne’s third event is “Stimulate
recall of prior learning” so yes, it’s connected. Just googled 2 see
if his quote, no. #lrnchat
6:29:03 pm Quinnovator: I obviously think games aren’t learning tools
‘in and of themselves’ (great research project), needs guided
reflection, hence SoMe #lrnchat
6:29:41 pm Quinnovator: @KoreenOlbrish no, games are inherently
assessment, you have to perform! Just matter of ‘framing’ #lrnchat
6:29:55 pm jmarrapodi: @KoreenOlbrish However! if we use a game to
assess and the learner doesn’t know it’s an assessment, we can measure
skill w/out fear #lrnchat
6:30:05 pm MariaOD: RT@JaneBozarth make sure emphasis is on what they
need to DO, not KNOW. (“Know” is what mgmt says; “do” is what learner
need)#lrnchat
6:30:06 pm tgrevatt: @KoreenOlbrish I even find those personality
assessment quizzes fun (like DISC), imagine a game giving you
behaviour info… #lrnchat
6:30:10 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth great idea! SoMe for RPG #lrnchat
6:30:30 pm KoreenOlbrish: @roninchef look at all the happy little
trees! one right here, let’s make another one over here…<3 Bob
Ross 😉 #lrnchat
6:30:50 pm Quinnovator: reckon games should incorporate same perf
support tools that they’d see in the world, too #lrnchat
6:30:59 pm rthorprichard: Oh, and for those that want to followup re:
gender and gaming, the best resource I know on the topic is Sherri
Graner Ray. #lrnchat
6:31:14 pm jilliant: @jmarrapodi How can you hide the fact that it’s
an assessment? #lrnchat
6:31:32 pm Priaak: games can be used for more than assessment, for
instance you can use a game format to create-entire module content
using scenarios #lrnchat/
6:31:47 pm Quinnovator: @tgrevatt ah, learning characteristics via
game: Room with 2 doors, speaker says door A, sign says door B, which
do you pick? #lrnchat
6:31:54 pm roninchef: @jilliant Have a loot drop at the end. #lrnchat
6:31:55 pm rthorprichard: @KoreeenOlbrish Okay, at first I totally
missed the Bob Ross reference. But then you mentioned “happy little
trees”. Perfect! #lrnchat
6:31:56 pm KoreenOlbrish: @jmarrapodi but if they don’t know, is it
true assessment? part of play is sometimes just seeing what happens
when u lose #lrnchat
6:32:02 pm tgrevatt: @Quinnovator Agree, we have to build effective
reflection into game-based learning – SoMe is great for regular gaming
#lrnchat
6:32:09 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator Here let’s try: I’ll be the
cranky trainer, you be the noncompliant subject matter expert 🙂
#lrnchat
6:32:52 pm KoreenOlbrish: @rthorprichard YES! Saw her speak on gender
and games at Austin GDC last fall–INSPIRING #lrnchat
6:33:10 pm roninchef: @Quinnovator Zork as training tool? #lrnchat
6:33:19 pm silverchirps: Good night #lrnchat colleagues! I will check
the transcript later. I enjoyed the session. See you again here next
week.
6:33:31 pm rthorprichard: @KoreenOlbrish @jmarrapodi Am I missing
something (it’s getting late)? Why does the learner need to know it’s
an assessment? #lrnchat
6:33:43 pm starweaver: @KoreenOlbrish but isn’t that assessing your
handling of failure? #lrnchat
6:33:54 pm JaneBozarth: @KoreenOlbrish Oh I loved the guy with the
happy little trees! Found it very soothing and mesmerizing. I miss him
— #lrnchat
6:34:05 pm Quinnovator: @rthorprichard still don’t get it, who’s Bob
Ross? (cultural literacy lack #232) #lrnchat
6:34:05 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth been there, done that (it’s an
activity in my game design workshop!) #lrnchat
6:34:06 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth been there, done that (that’s an
activity in my game design workshop!) #lrnchat
6:34:40 pm KoreenOlbrish: @starweaver lol, but organizations typically
aren’t big on allowing people to fail 😉 oh, the crazy cyclical
process… #lrnchat
6:34:48 pm Quinnovator: g’night to the folks who’re leaving, thanks
for playing! #lrnchat
6:34:58 pm starweaver: @rthorprichard and wouldn’t a better assessment
be when someone isn’t oin edge about being assessed? #lrnchat
6:35:02 pm rthorprichard: RT (while laughing): @JaneBozarth Here,
let’s try: I’ll be the cranky trainer, you be the noncompliant subject
matter expert 🙂 #lrnchat
6:35:36 pm roninchef: @Quinnovator http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Bob_Ross You know, for later:) #lrnchat
6:35:51 pm Quinnovator: @KoreenOlbrish ah, culture’s a, er, bear.
#lrnchat
6:36:11 pm jmarrapodi: @jilliant Tell them it’s a game. They don’t
need to know it’s an assessment. It’s all in framing. #lrnchat
6:36:22 pm tgrevatt: in-game assessment can be a cost effective
alternative to a live observation, especially if scenario is v
realistic- calibration #lrnchat
6:36:31 pm Quinnovator: @roninchef Thanks! Open in New Tab is a
wonderful thing. #lrnchat
6:36:31 pm rthorprichard: @starweaver Exactly. “Hidden Assessment”
Hmm… interesting product idea… real potential in the K12 market
for that. #lrnchat
6:37:00 pm Quinnovator: @tgrevatt yep, better to fail in a sim/game
than when people’s lives are at stake! #lrnchat
6:37:05 pm Priaak: games don’t have to be always scored – create games
where people don’t feel they are being tested. #lrnchat/
6:37:14 pm roninchef: @Quinnovator It is all about the fan brush.
#lrnchat
6:37:18 pm jmarrapodi: Hey all you gaming thinkers is anyone going to
be at LEEF? http://www.harrisburgu.net/LEEF2009/index.php #lrnchat
6:37:20 pm rthorprichard: Great chat everyone. Oh, and just a
reminder, this account is my Twitter avatar. The real me is
@thorprichard (follow that one). #lrnchat
6:37:27 pm Quinnovator: @rthorprichard though I don’t buy the whole
‘stealth learning’ thing #lrnchat
6:37:33 pm starweaver: @rthorprichard Hidden assessment is what anyone
does with a kid in play or art therapy if they’re any good at it
#lrnchat
6:37:47 pm tgrevatt: @jmarrapodi alas no, but will be at ICELW, wish I
could be at LEEF too #lrnchat
6:38:10 pm Quinnovator: @starweaver and it should be portfolio
*anyway* so everything they do is an assessment! #lrnchat
6:38:26 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator Bob Ross did a painting show on
PBS years ago. Everything he did included ‘happy little trees’. #lrnchat
6:38:33 pm Quinnovator: @jmarrapodi LEEF? frayed knot #lrnchat
6:38:40 pm KoreenOlbrish: i think people know when they are
learning…trying to manufacture “stealth” seems forced and maybe
dishonest? #lrnchat
6:38:40 pm allisunelearns: Darn! I keep meaning to join in on my first
#lrnchat and missing it. Distracted by travel arrangements for
MoodleMoot in San Fran. Next wk!
6:39:10 pm jmarrapodi: @tgrevatt I wonder if there’s a way to get a
game-ish assessment for my lowest level adult readers that doesn’t
look like kidstuff? #lrnchat
6:39:17 pm JaneBozarth: RT @jmarrapodi: @jilliant Tell them it’s a
game. They don’t need to know it’s an assessment. It’s all in framing.
#lrnchat
6:39:27 pm KoreenOlbrish: @jmarrapodi I’m presenting at LEEF! will you
be there? #lrnchat
6:39:33 pm Quinnovator: @KoreenOlbrish and for transfer, you kinda
gotta make it explicit or you risk not having it happen (from analogy
research, my PhD) #lrnchat
6:39:34 pm roninchef: @allisunelearns We still have about 20 minutes
left. #lrnchat
6:39:54 pm jmarrapodi: @allisunelearns Hey! We’re here! Just like the
Whos in Whoville. 🙂 Glad you joined in. #lrnchat
6:40:11 pm Quinnovator: @jmarrapodi short answer, yes! What are you
assessing, reading skills? Just a matter of making it meaningful…
#lrnchat
6:40:36 pm tgrevatt: @jmarrapodi Anything is possible with a will and $
$ 😉 #lrnchat
6:40:39 pm KoreenOlbrish: @Quinnovator i hadn’t thought of the
transfer angle! that makes a lot of sense, if you don’t know you’re
learning it, y apply it? #lrnchat
6:41:17 pm jmarrapodi: @KoreenOlbrish Likely not. Still on the fence
though. I’m so not a game developer. #lrnchat
6:41:36 pm Quinnovator: one of the interesting opportunities, too, is
ARGs, making games mobile, and spread throughout your environment
#lrnchat
6:41:55 pm KoreenOlbrish: @tgrevatt it just struck me that will and $$
are 2 of the biggest motivators, too #lrnchat
6:42:07 pm Quinnovator: @tgrevatt right, the limits are no longer the
tech, the limits are between our ears (and our pocketbooks 🙂 #lrnchat
6:42:25 pm shantarohse: Manipulation, stealth assessment vs portfolio.
Great topics for future lrncht (or moral decay)? #lrnchat
6:42:31 pm starweaver: @KoreenOlbrish Does a kid really get that
they’re learning math when learning music or building a birdhouse?
Stealth is possible. #lrnchat
6:42:32 pm jmarrapodi: @tgrevatt Oh yes, true true. Adult Education is
using listservs and proud of their “technology”. #lrnchat
6:42:45 pm Quinnovator: @KoreenOlbrish or if it’s contextualized,
you’ll never abstract and apply in another relevant context #lrnchat
6:43:03 pm hybridkris: @Quinnovator I agree games are assessments in a
sense. As an example Flt Sim rated you on performance. #lrnchat
6:43:06 pm jilliant: @KoreenOlbrish Yes – hard to be sneaky re lrng/
assessment OK to let them know what it is, then surprise them by
making it fun. #lrnchat
6:43:22 pm Quinnovator: @starweaver right, layering it on, but when
it’s made meaningful, it’s still math, but it’s *relevant*! #lrnchat
6:43:36 pm tgrevatt: @jmarrapodi The spectrum of eLearning these days
is incredibly broad, even in the learning games space the spread is
huge #lrnchat
6:43:44 pm starweaver: @jmarrapodi adult ed is more and more becoming
distance learning which is a lot more than just listservs #lrnchat
6:44:11 pm KoreenOlbrish: @starweaver maybe that’s a difference in
play/games for adults? are we always aware or looking for hidden
meaning/value? #lrnchat
6:44:16 pm Quinnovator: @jilliant or do it the other way, get them
doing something interesting, then point out the relevant math/science/
reading/lesson #lrnchat
6:44:34 pm VWassessments: @jmarrapodi but u may want 2 look at ARGs –
u may find the story development, clues plot twists &”puppetmastery”
interesting #lrnchat
6:44:45 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @jilliant hard to be sneaky re lrng/
assessment OK to let them know what it is, then surprise them by
making it fun #lrnchat
6:45:03 pm jmarrapodi: @Quinnovator Yes, reading skills,
comprehension. Need to determine where the holes are in the Swiss
cheese @ 2nd GrLv reader adult. #lrnchat
6:45:06 pm starweaver: @KoreenOlbrish I think you hit the nail on the
head. We don’t have time if it doesn’t have a point. #lrnchat
6:45:26 pm Quinnovator: what about different pedagogies, instead of
concept/example/practice-game; Game surrounded with concept and
example resources? #lrnchat
6:45:46 pm jmarrapodi: @VWassessments What’s ARGs? #lrnchat
6:45:49 pm MrsMica: @Quinnovator software for learning languages uses
game-like competition against self and immediate feedback to enhance
learning #lrnchat
6:46:25 pm KoreenOlbrish: ARG = alternate reality games (mix of real
and digital) #lrnchat
6:46:26 pm roninchef: @jmarrapodi Alternative Reality Games #lrnchat
6:46:30 pm jmarrapodi: @MrsMica Talk to me. What software. Rosetta
Stone? #lrnchat
6:46:34 pm Quinnovator: @MrsMica it is just scored practice, or
contextualized? #lrnchat
6:46:46 pm JaneBozarth: I think sometimes what we call “learning” is
what the learner calls “solving a problem”. ? #lrnchat
6:47:19 pm starweaver: @Quinnovator look @ Mythbusters! when was
Science in a classroom ever that much fun? learn more science watching
that than college #lrnchat
6:48:04 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @JaneBozarth I think sometimes what we
call “learning” is what the learner calls “solving a problem” #lrnchat
6:48:11 pm jmarrapodi: @Quinnovator Isn’t “Game surrounded with
concept and example resources” just scenario based case studies?
#lrnchat
6:48:18 pm Quinnovator: we did an ARG demo that had messages coming in
via email/voicemail/SMS: sales training spread out over players life
like real #lrnchat
6:48:35 pm roninchef: @JaneBozarth We want to have that grander role
in their hearts. When all they want is it fixed. #lrnchat
6:48:37 pm VWassessments: AR = augmented reality, ARG = alternate
reality game but they a game could be both #lrnchat
6:48:48 pm tgrevatt: @starweaver lol – science training does such a
disservice to the discipline, it’s way more fun in practice #lrnchat
6:48:52 pm Quinnovator: @starweaver my kids LOVE Mythbusters! Over
dinner tonite wondered what having them as Sci teachers would be like
#lrnchat
6:49:00 pm 360Kid: @VWassessments Q: anybody ever play Budget Hero?
Find it here, developed by my company, 360KID, for APM http://tr.im/
kNf8 #lrnchat
6:49:19 pm Quinnovator: @jmarrapodi yep, case-based or problem/project-
based learning #lrnchat
6:49:25 pm jmarrapodi: @JaneBozarth Yup & they don’t even know it
sometimes. 🙂 The kindergarten model. What did you learn today.
Nothing. We just played. #lrnchat
6:49:34 pm JaneBozarth: May I just interject that this is so much fun
I can hardly stand it? #lrnchat
6:49:39 pm KoreenOlbrish: ARGs have great potential for passing
heavier tech like VWs and MMO games for learning purposes…realistic
context, low cost #lrnchat
6:49:54 pm starweaver: @tgrevatt Totally! Show me how to blow things
up you teach me for a day, let me blow things up & I learn for a
lifetime 😛 #lrnchat
6:49:57 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth yep, learning = problem-solving,
design, innovation, creativity… #lrnchat
6:50:10 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth scandalous! We don’t allow fun
here! #lrnchat
6:50:19 pm jmarrapodi: @Quinnovator That sales demo sounds fab. #lrnchat
6:50:20 pm MrsMica: @jmarrapodi Rosetta the most recent example I have
seen, but seen many similar #lrnchat
6:50:43 pm jmarrapodi: @MrsMica Seen anything for ESL? #lrnchat
6:50:48 pm KoreenOlbrish: OK, all of you smart lrnchatters! Last 10
minutes are open for public “asking for help.” If you’ve got a
problem, let us help! #lrnchat
6:50:55 pm Quinnovator: @jmarrapodi ahead of it’s time; we couldn’t
get traction! #lrnchat
6:51:24 pm jmarrapodi: @JaneBozarth Oh, and in our fun are we *gasp*
learning too? #lrnchat
6:51:55 pm Quinnovator: last 10 mins: offers, requests, can we help
you or you us (I’m sure RFPs most welcome 😉 #lrnchat
6:51:58 pm VWassessments: @KoreenOlbrish & I think instructor could
understand them easier – develop an assignment similar to National
Treasure #lrnchat
6:52:10 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator I know. I won’t tell anyone on
the outside. #lrnchat
6:52:14 pm allisunelearns: I am excited by possibilities of 3D Gaming.
How might gaming dev 4 learning be diff in 3D enviro? http://bit.ly/iKm3E
at 3:30 #lrnchat
6:52:32 pm KoreenOlbrish: There is a blasphemous rumor floating around
that learning can be fun. Who’s spreading this? 🙂 #lrnchat
6:53:38 pm Quinnovator: @KoreenOlbrish oh no, we’re not having fun
here,honest! #lrnchat
6:53:48 pm carolwhit: I’m looking for new ID consulting gigs. Have
tried all the usual places, hoping to build some new networks. #lrnchat
6:53:54 pm jilliant: OK but language & scenarios =easy to see a
connection to fun/games.What about when the subject isn’t so spicy?
Accounting?Software? #lrnchat
6:54:02 pm starweaver: @KoreenOlbrish tell that to my psych profs –
they’re all about as fun as paint drying 😛 #lrnchat
6:54:35 pm Quinnovator: @allisunelearns shoulda been here last week!
(Sorry, old surfer joke, no matter how good or bad, “you shoulda been
here yesterday”) #lrnchat
6:54:39 pm KoreenOlbrish: Anyone in the Chicago area next week? I’ll
be in town for a conference; maybe a tweet up is in order? #lrnchat
6:54:50 pm MrsMica: @jmarrapodi besides Rosetta? they have English,
too #lrnchat
6:55:04 pm starweaver: @jilliant that’s where we earn our money isn’t
it? Real world sims with present day twists perhaps? #lrnchat
6:55:22 pm MariaOD: Where does learning fit in during times of tight
budget and bare bone staffing? #lrnchat
6:55:37 pm starweaver: @KoreenOlbrish tell that to my psych profs –
they’re all about as fun as paint drying 😛 #lrnchat
6:55:44 pm KoreenOlbrish: @carolwhit DM me your info and I’ll keep my
ear to the ground! #lrnchat
6:55:50 pm tgrevatt: @jilliant Non-spicy stuff can be done, it takes
some design effort, we made games for ISO9001 training and similar
#lrnchat
6:55:57 pm VWassessments: @jilliant have accounting instructor who
does Budget Hero, WoW & an ARG based on D.B. Cooper & AR using
GoogleMapmashups & twitter #lrnchat
6:56:16 pm Quinnovator: @carolwhit lot of that going around! #lrnchat
6:56:21 pm carolwhit: @KoreenOlbrish Thanks! Will do. I appreciate it.
#lrnchat
6:56:26 pm starweaver: @MariaOD we see learning as an investment in
our current staff & clients as a way to retain them #lrnchat
6:56:42 pm Quinnovator: @starweaver they should know better! #lrnchat
6:56:43 pm KoreenOlbrish: @MariaOD tighter budgets demand creative
solutions–sometimes more money does not = better learning! #lrnchat
6:57:07 pm carolwhit: @Quinnovator Yes, that’s what’s making it so
difficult this time! 🙂 #lrnchat
6:57:23 pm Quinnovator: @MariaOD investment in capacity, so better
able to respond when things turn up again! #lrnchat
6:57:35 pm allisunelearns: #lrnchat I’m available for any Moodle Q’s
6:57:42 pm KoreenOlbrish: @VWassessments now that’s an accounting
class I would take! #lrnchat
6:57:42 pm VWassessments: @KoreenOlbrish bootstrapping all the way
#lrnchat
6:58:10 pm roninchef: @KoreenOlbrish That is straying into Edupunk
territory I think. DIY. Another night for that talk. #lrnchat
6:58:36 pm Quinnovator: @MariaOD seriously, seeing investing in ways
for people to help each other (Social Media) is paying off #lrnchat
6:58:50 pm jilliant: RT @KoreenOlbrish: @VWassessments now that’s an
accounting class I would take! #lrnchat AMEN!!
6:59:13 pm KoreenOlbrish: @roninchef i know, i’m going to put myself
out of business, talking like that 😉 that is a great topic for a
future chat! #lrnchat
6:59:14 pm msmithpds: responding to the video gaming disc. – seen this
ted? #lrnchat http://tinyurl.com/3epfp7
7:00:22 pm Quinnovator: we’re at the end of formal time, thanks SO
much for great thoughts, contributions, questions, and fun! (oops,
scratch that last 🙂 #lrnchat
7:00:39 pm KoreenOlbrish: 10 pm and all’s well! Thanks @quinnovator &
@marciamarcia for allowing me to crash-host the #lrnchat party! #lrnchat
7:00:55 pm allisunelearns: @roninchef @KoreenOlbrish would luv to chat
on Edupunk next week; I tried to start a Sudbury School – almost as
radical as u get. #lrnchat
7:00:59 pm Quinnovator: g’night, and hope to ‘see’ you next week!

Transcript of #lrnchat 4/30/09

8:31:17 pm moehlert: Hey #lrnchat! What’s going on tonight? Mark Oehlert logging in from outside Washington DC…where ya’ll at?
8:31:28 pm lrnchat: Everyone ready? #lrnchat
8:32:20 pm row4it: ready! #lrnchat
8:32:32 pm lrnchat: Looking forward to a lively conversation tonight. Let’s start off with a warmup question. #lrnchat
8:33:10 pm richardsheehy: Hey there, Richard Sheehy here from SC #lrnchat
8:33:10 pm lrnchat: Q0 (warmup): What did you learn today … or at least recently… you’re willing to share? #lrnchat
8:34:23 pm jimsky7: Today I learned how to use Garageband to quickly turn video into an audio podcast with added segments and effects. #lrnchat
8:35:01 pm richardsheehy: I was sighting in the scope of a pellet gun to discourage the squirrels from the pecan trees #lrnchat
8:35:17 pm marciamarcia: Thrilled to be participating in #lrnchat tonight, from VA, while trying *not* to stress abt a presentation next week.
8:35:43 pm KoreenOlbrish: is this thing on? tweetchat is failing me… #lrnchat/
8:36:05 pm moehlert: #lrnchat I learned that sometimes if I stare at the screen long enough, the answer WILL come.
8:36:27 pm carolwhit: How easy it is to lose track of time when recording for screencasts #lrnchat
8:36:41 pm hjarche: I learned how to make a tweet longer than 140 characters http://appendr.com/ #lrnchat
8:36:50 pm row4it: #lrnchat Unfortunately, I learned that my organization is changing under new leadership which isn’t as comfortable as before.
8:37:19 pm KoreenOlbrish: i learned that sometimes the right thing to do is volunteer #lrnchat
8:37:21 pm moehlert: @hjarche #lrnchat No fair! Rule breaker! 🙂 #lrnchat
8:37:36 pm silverchirps: Learning & teaching might be inseparable especially in this social learning environment such as twitter. #Lrnchat
8:38:34 pm hjarche: @moehlert rulz R made for breaking 🙂 didn’t u lrn tht in skool? #lrnchat
8:38:44 pm moehlert: @silverchirps #lrnchat I like that. Shouldn’t those two always travel together?
8:38:50 pm marciamarcia: What did I learn today? Just because you know a topic inside and out, it can be tough to clear away extra, focus on essential. #lrnchat
8:40:04 pm dbolen: multiple conf calls dull brain #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:40:32 pm shantarohse: I learned that you can indeed drive over a flash drive and it still keeps on ticking. #lrnchat
8:40:36 pm ethang: ahoy #lrnchat ethang hailin from denver
8:40:42 pm lrnchat: Q1: What the hottest (or most promising) technology you’ve seen recently for helping people learn? What makes it so interesting? #lrnchat
8:40:57 pm moehlert: @hjarche #lrnchat You’re such a rebel, what with all your 3l3t typing skilz!
8:41:01 pm richardsheehy: #lrnchat we all know @moehlert is a gubnent man and always goes by the book
8:41:24 pm thecleversheep: Continually learning to be humble, working in a community of extraordinarily committed learners. #lrnchat
8:41:29 pm KoreenOlbrish: don’t know if its necessarily a technology, but i’m loving ARGs #lrnchat
8:41:57 pm lrnchat: Seems like as a group, we learned a bunch this week. Let’s encourage newcomers tonight to intro w/ what they’ve learned. #lrnchat
8:42:10 pm lrnchat: @KoreenOlbrish Say more. ARGs? #lrnchat
8:42:15 pm moehlert: @richardsheehy #lrnchat It’s a big, complicated book too!
8:42:18 pm jimsky7: Hottest learning tech for me today is ebooks on my iPhone! $4.99 for 587 pages of good info. #lrnchat
8:42:19 pm richardsheehy: #lrnchat I am learning to remember the hashtag BEFORE posting #lrnchat#lrnchat#lrnchat#lrnchat
8:42:24 pm roninchef: Good evening from Maine. This week I learned to accept clip art if job warrants it. #lrnchat
8:42:46 pm carolwhit: anything that allows ppl to learn from mobile device, not much out there now, waiting for killer iphone app to change things #lrnchat
8:43:05 pm kdwashburn: Been learning the value of a professional editor. Humbling & yet exciting! kdwashburn from Pelham, AL, and a newbie to this chat. #lrnchat
8:43:38 pm moehlert: #lrnchat C’mon folks….let’s fire up the learning discussion…my fav tech right now is the emerging new tools for virtual worlds…
8:43:48 pm hjarche: @kdwashburn a good editor is very important, IMO – like a good teacher #lrnchat
8:43:54 pm jilliant: Newbie here too, learned that sometimes trainers make the toughest learners. Speaking of myself, of course. #lrnchat
8:43:56 pm thecleversheep: Most promising technology for expanding the classroom has to be Skype. Personal; Free; Global; Multi-media; Mobile… #lrnchat
8:44:11 pm KoreenOlbrish: @lrnchat ARG = alternate reality games. Pitching 2 projs incorporating digital w real life learning experiences. So much design fun #lrnchat
8:44:47 pm roninchef: Comic books on mobile phones. Very open for elearning. #lrnchat
8:44:50 pm richardsheehy: @carolwhit #lrnchat don’t forget about us crackberry when it comes to mobile. Can’t all just get along? #lrnchat
8:45:06 pm hjarche: @thecleversheep skype is a good starter tech – seems twitter is better for those used to SoMe, as Tony Karrer wrote today #lrnchat
8:45:09 pm marciamarcia: @kdwashburn Even after serving as an editor for years, I find them invaluable. So many lessons and techniques. #lrnchat
8:45:23 pm moehlert: @jilliant #lrnchat Welcome! Glad u jumped in!
8:45:27 pm carolwhit: @richardsheehy of course, but seems like the iPhone developers are working overtime right now! #lrnchat
8:45:47 pm BradnDeedo: Greetings all – sorry I’m late #lrnchat
8:45:55 pm moehlert: @roninchef #lrnchat Nice. Got a link?
8:46:03 pm hjarche: @roninchef is Dan Pink’s Johnny Bunko available on mobile yet – could be a good format (?) #lrnchat
8:46:23 pm carolwhit: @roninchef this seems like an idea with tons of potential, and not just for young people #lrnchat
8:46:38 pm row4it: RT @roninchef: Comic books on mobile phones. Very open for elearning. #lrnchat My son said the same to me today!
8:46:43 pm kdwashburn: @marciamarcia Think they see what the writer knows deep down is/isn’t there but doesn’t know how to fix. #lrnchat
8:46:56 pm lrnchat: Welcome to everyone who has joined us tonight. Please consider starting w/ a short intro & something you’ve learned this week. #lrnchat
8:46:58 pm JeffLowe: Just learned how to sort large data sets based on xyz orientation in LSL #lrnchat
8:47:32 pm roninchef: @moehlert These folks are doing nice stuff. http://www.robotcomics.net/ #lrnchat
8:48:05 pm moehlert: @JeffLowe #lrnchat OK. U win for most obscure yet potentially useful item of the day! 🙂
8:48:16 pm shantarohse: Combining Q1 and Q2: I learned that it is best not to think of technology in terms of the hottest (or most promising). #lrnchat
8:48:21 pm roninchef: @hjarche I haven’t seen that yet but Cory Doctorow’s “Anda’s Game ” on my G1 got me thinking this week. #lrnchat
8:48:28 pm BradnDeedo: I learned again how nice it is to work for a supportive administrator. #lrnchat
8:48:56 pm KoreenOlbrish: @JeffLowe is that for 3D data visualization? because that sounds sweeeet! #lrnchat
8:49:02 pm gminks: hi. I learned you can survive finals and working full time (hi everyone!) #lrnchat
8:49:34 pm hjarche: @roninchef thx, one more to check out, enjoyed Doctorow’s last book, “Little Brother” #lrnchat
8:49:36 pm marciamarcia: @kdwashburn My favorite editor recently is not a techy so she also points out (and finds better terms for) jargon I don’t notice. #lrnchat
8:49:51 pm moehlert: @roninchef #lrnchat Don’t forget…this Saturday, May 2 is Free Comic Book Day! http://www.freecomicbookday.com/
8:49:53 pm thecleversheep: @hjarche Potentially tranformative… and vastly underutilized for education is Skype. #lrnchat
8:49:59 pm gminks: I also learned how to use branching in Articulate #lrnchat
8:50:02 pm ethang: #lrnchat i learned to cajole 6 departments to cooperate on a live webcast this weekend http://tr.im/ka2y not the hottest tech but fun prolly
8:50:13 pm shantarohse: @gminks congratulations on finding that balance! #lrnchat
8:50:16 pm rdeis: Hi from Canada. Learned about 140 | The Twitter Conference 2009 #lrnchat
8:50:17 pm roninchef: @carolwhit Smartphone screens are better with each rev. I love the idea of delivering JIT traing this way. #lrnchat
8:50:31 pm jimsky7: The best editor is one who can “become a novice” when reading your text, and help you explain it better to the reader. #lrnchat
8:50:34 pm kdwashburn: @marciamarcia Yes, that’s been a big contribution of my editor. Too much academic writing will do that to you! #lrnchat
8:50:43 pm marciamarcia: I learned that it is best not to think of technology in terms of the hottest (or most promising). via @shantarohse #lrnchat
8:51:13 pm JeffLowe: @KoreenOlbrish @moehlert for my BrainBoard virt collab tool. Breakthrough today in sorting export based on viewer position #lrnchat
8:51:26 pm carolwhit: @roninchef That’s what I’m thinking too. That, and ways to reach all those who can only see the net on a phone #lrnchat
8:51:30 pm roninchef: @moehlert I know. I have been off that horse for many moons and my kidlet is still a few years out from comics. #lrnchat
8:51:50 pm rdeis: I’ve thought about doing the comic book idea. Any suggestions on software to use #lrnchat
8:52:30 pm thecleversheep: @rdeis Comic Life is the master choice… some online tools are also available… #lrnchat
8:52:41 pm gminks: @roninchef @moehlert I love how comics is always mentioned in #lrnchat
8:52:49 pm roninchef: @carolwhit Basically everyone in developing countries. Mobiles are how a lot of the world is getting on the web. #lrnchat
8:52:52 pm moehlert: @JeffLowe #lrnchat Aww yeah….need to hear more about this…
8:52:56 pm marciamarcia: Considered myself a great learner, usually picking up new apps & techniques easily. iWork apps, tho, are kickin my butt. Humbling. #lrnchat
8:53:50 pm roninchef: @rdeis You probably already have it. PowerPoint. #lrnchat
8:53:59 pm hjarche: RT @thecleversheep Lessig’s challenged presentation embeds some compelling mashup exemplars http://bit.ly/XzloZ #lrnchat
8:54:02 pm carolwhit: @roninchef Exactly, the potential for learning is huge and largely untapped now. People just aren’t doing it yet. #lrnchat
8:54:17 pm BradnDeedo: @marciamarcia ME too – I want it to do what Appleworks did and can’t make the transition #lrnchat
8:54:26 pm moehlert: @gminks #lrnchat ….I know…maybe, oh, I don’t know stories combining text and visuals are great storytelling / teaching tools.. 😉
8:55:37 pm roninchef: @carolwhit Rapid development for Android based phones and iPhones have a pretty low entry barrier. I just need more hours in a day. #lrnchat
8:57:03 pm carolwhit: @roninchef Yeah, I’m not a coder, only an ID, when you get the app going, we can work on teaching the world! In all our free time! #lrnchat
8:57:20 pm shantarohse: ASIDE: TweetChat users – if I favourite a tweet in TweetChat, will I find it with my other tweet favs? #lrnchat
8:57:24 pm lrnchat: So far I’ve seen here “waiting for iphone learning apps”, comic book tech (tools suggestions?), ARGs. Others? #lrnchat
8:57:51 pm rdeis: I find the CommonCraft type videos really good http://www.commoncraft.com/ Anyone tried making these? #lrnchat
8:58:02 pm JeffLowe: Oh yeah, also learned about Prezi (cool zooming online story/preso maker) plan to use it soon http://twurl.nl/so3oo4 #lrnchat
8:58:03 pm roninchef: @carolwhit I have the e-book for Android dev and will open it one day. #lrnchat
8:58:17 pm lrnchat: @shantarohse Yes, if you fave a tweet in the chat, it will appear under your fave tab. Also, you can dm here. #lrnchat
8:58:42 pm thecleversheep: @iteachag Limitless possibilities for guest speakers; classroom partnerships; international current events… a global perspective #lrnchat
8:59:14 pm marciamarcia: @rdeis Love the commoncraft style vids, too. Boywonder & I have begun trying to make a few ourselves but not ready to share yet. #lrnchat
8:59:27 pm kdwashburn: @JeffLowe Hearing alot about Prezi. Does it seem to have elements that make it effective, not just flashy? #lrnchat
8:59:29 pm jilliant: @JeffLowe Lots of buzz about Prezi in our org too. Very cool tool! #lrnchat
9:00:04 pm shantarohse: If pressed to choose a fav technology, I would pick Google Docs. #lrnchat
9:00:34 pm J_Schulz: I learned how to hook up a Slingbox #lrnchat
9:00:37 pm roninchef: @kdwashburn http://prezi.com/showcase/ Check these out and make the call #lrnchat
9:00:43 pm silverchirps: @marciamarcia technology by itself is useless. The human brain gives meaning to it, the way we use it. #Lrnchat
9:01:05 pm thecleversheep: @kdwashburn @JeffLowe Brain research says movement commands attention. Words, images, in zoom are compelling creative opps for kids #lrnchat
9:01:40 pm roninchef: @silverchirps “The street finds it’s own uses for things.” -William Gibson #lrnchat
9:01:42 pm marciamarcia: Technology by itself is useless. The human brain gives meaning to it, the way we use it. via @silverchirps #lrnchat
9:02:11 pm ethang: very cool @thecleversheep #lrnchat i’ve used skype for conducting interviews, recorded them with CamStudio and edited video into report
9:02:13 pm moehlert: @silverchirps #lrnchat Not just the brain but the socially mediated brain…John Seely Brown calls it a “network of imagination”
9:03:59 pm marciamarcia: @thecleversheep Movement commands attention for ppl of all ages. Just need to remember not to overwhelm. #lrnchat
9:04:33 pm moehlert: RT @roninchef: @silverchirps “The street finds it’s own uses for things.” -William Gibson #lrnchat Nice pull.
9:04:38 pm richardsheehy: #lrnchat for those interested in Common Craft and @leelefeever her is a podcast link http://twurl.nl/rn7o8s
9:04:42 pm Priaak: With the ever-changing technologies how do you maximize the reuse of the existing learning materials? #lrnchat/
9:05:25 pm lrnchat: So any more technologies (that whole-body thinking can work with) worth mentioning? #lrnchat
9:05:36 pm silverchirps: My fav tech at the moment is twitter combined with iphone. #Lrnchat
9:05:38 pm kdwashburn: Since there are several edtech tweeps here, what camera & mic should I get to use for webinar presentations? Needs to work w?Mac. #lrnchat
9:05:49 pm roninchef: @moehlert Yeah I went there. Any chance I get to pull the Neuromancer quotes I’ll do it. #lrnchat
9:06:53 pm benduffy: hey tweeps, sorry for the late entry. Refinancing the house…. #lrnchat
9:07:07 pm roninchef: @kdwashburn What kind of Mac? #lrnchat
9:07:17 pm gminks: I am loving Articulate, and Centra classroom #lrnchat
9:07:25 pm kdwashburn: @roninchef MacBook Pro. #lrnchat
9:07:36 pm ethang: @Priaak #lrnchat use an open document or or CC license, for firsts, make it available freely…
9:07:36 pm row4it: Priaak, I agree. We are often accused of moving to the most recent “fad” when learners may not always be ready to move. #lrnchat
9:07:51 pm moehlert: @Priaak #lrnchat great argument for a larger strategy that looks at larger goals for use of technology…
9:07:51 pm richardsheehy: @roninchef #lrnchat I would say to maximize reuse keep information and presentation separate as much as possible. Also a good web dev tip.
9:08:22 pm roninchef: @kdwashburn Use your onboard cam and get a Snoball mic. The onboard mic isn’t all that bad either. #lrnchat
9:08:44 pm JeffLowe: Prezi seems to be good at visually reenforcing the “big picture” and how certain elements fit within #lrnchat
9:09:09 pm kdwashburn: @roninchef Thanks! #lrnchat
9:09:10 pm lrnchat: Looks like we’re on to Q2 from @Priaak: How do you maximize the reuse of the existing learning materials? #lrnchat
9:09:13 pm carolwhit: @roninchef I second this assessment. The Snoball mic works great for screencast recordings, too. #lrnchat
9:09:17 pm hybridkris: Sorry i’m late folks. #lrnchat
9:09:52 pm jilliant: @kdwashburn Not sure about cams, but very happy with the Blue Snowball mic. #lrnchat
9:10:03 pm shantarohse: @roninchef @kdwashburn I’ve started to look at information differently. There is so much of it, it is not worth my time to update. #lrnchat
9:10:46 pm kdwashburn: @carolwhit @jilliant Excellent. Thanks for the suggestions! #lrnchat
9:10:48 pm lrnchat: @benduffy @hybridkris Thanks for joining us. We began w/ what we’ve been learning. Now also talking about materials re-use. #lrnchat
9:10:58 pm edwsonoma: @shantarohse #lrnchat disposable learning objects 🙂
9:11:04 pm KoreenOlbrish: I think creating smaller learning segments is keye–video, animations, graphics, mini-mods that can be leveraged for reuse #lrnchat
9:11:13 pm row4it: I guess there is always opportunity to put existing content into new technologies to keep current. #lrnchat
9:11:38 pm benduffy: Reuse of Articulate through deeplinking to usable nuggets linked from on screen help files. #lrnchat
9:11:57 pm ethang: @kdwashburn #lrnchat anybody used the agent V4? http://tr.im/ka7T looks cool, like the original iSight
9:12:04 pm thecleversheep: @murphymath Currently not in the classroom, I record conversations with folks all around the world for Teacher 2.0 Podcast #lrnchat
9:12:56 pm shantarohse: Sticky! RT @edwsonoma @shantarohse #lrnchat disposable learning objects 🙂 #lrnchat
9:13:03 pm roninchef: @lrnchat When developing I look at what I already have on hand and If I have to create I make sure it has potential for recycling. #lrnchat
9:13:21 pm benduffy: Articulate deeplink = /(course)/player.html?slide=4 #lrnchat
9:13:36 pm marciamarcia: You heard it here first: Disposable learning objects (when you just can’t bear to update content) via @edwsonoma @shantarohse #lrnchat
9:14:19 pm silverchirps: @moehlert sociallly mediated brain gives meaning to technology i like it,we human beings are ONE. #Lrnchat
9:14:31 pm J_Schulz: To @moehlert ‘s point though, there needs to be a larger tech strategy to your content reusability decisions on. #lrnchat
9:14:50 pm roninchef: @marciamarcia I am cranking out a few CBT with just raw PPT clip art for assets. Can’t get any more disposable than that. #lrnchat
9:15:10 pm ThomasStone: We author in XML, then have transforms that produce various courseware book outputs for ILT, plus storyboards/etc. for e-learning #lrnchat
9:15:13 pm J_Schulz: It must align with broader org’s info strategy – you don’t want to be creating content that only works in the T&D department. #lrnchat
9:15:18 pm marciamarcia: I look at what I already have on hand and if I have to create I make sure it has potential for recycling. via @roninchef #lrnchat
9:15:39 pm gminks: @KoreenOlbrish I like your idea about creating smaller learning segments #lrnchat
9:15:50 pm ThomasStone: This is our single-source model, and we use it on a large scale. #lrnchat
9:15:51 pm edwsonoma: @marciamarcia #lrnchat just as important to know what to toss as what to reuse. We need to take some lessons from archivists
9:16:25 pm gminks: like this RT @benduffy: Articulate deeplink = /(course)/player.html?slide=4 #lrnchat
9:16:47 pm roninchef: @gminks Yay, micro-training! I try to advocate that when ever I can. Mix and match FTW #lrnchat
9:17:03 pm hybridkris: We divide our courseware into reusable segments and bind it all in a Flash interface with XML. We can reuse pieces for new lessons. #lrnchat
9:17:19 pm ThomasStone: The trick with single-source authoring is for the ID to be aware of all the modalities that the content will be used in. #lrnchat
9:17:39 pm jimsky7: Every time I toss old publs I need them 2 mo later for legal reasons. Make everything digital and toss the paper instead! #lrnchat
9:17:40 pm gminks: mine almost is disposable – training for software that changes rapidly. But try to reuse across different courses #lrnchat
9:17:40 pm KoreenOlbrish: its the old “reusable learning object” problem –too much context & its difficult to reuse, not enough context & it loses relevance #lrnchat
9:17:57 pm marciamarcia: @J_Schulz Excellent point. I don’t know any orgs who want content just for the T&D dept. #lrnchat
9:17:56 pm carolwhit: @edwsonoma Agreed, depending on your subject matter, you may not be able to reuse because it changes too quickly #lrnchat
9:18:25 pm benduffy: Google YouTube training nuggets for all Google App training. Nice, simple, effective. I organized the nuggets into a single page. #lrnchat
9:18:49 pm marciamarcia: Just as important to know what to toss as what to reuse. We need to take some lessons from archivists. via @edwsonoma #lrnchat
9:18:51 pm roninchef: @KoreenOlbrish That is what photoshop filters are for 😉 #lrnchat
9:19:02 pm richardsheehy: RT @roninchef: @gminks Yay, micro-training! I try to advocate that when ever I can. Mix and match FTW #lrnchat (now that’s deep linking)
9:19:29 pm shantarohse: Good advice via @jimsky7 Make everything digital and toss the paper instead #lrnchat
9:19:33 pm KoreenOlbrish: @roninchef lol, NOW you tell me 😉 #lrnchat
9:19:36 pm Priaak: so I guess modular content, content nougats and a plan for reuse right at the start #lrnchat/
9:19:57 pm moehlert: RT @hybridkris: We divide R courseware in2 reusable segments & bind it all in a Flash interface w/ XML. reuse pieces 4 new lessons. #lrnchat
9:20:30 pm moehlert: @Priaak #lrnchat design design design 🙂
9:20:46 pm ThomasStone: Koreen described the problem nicely. One way around it is to author core nuggets (reuseable) and “glue” content for context. #lrnchat
9:20:48 pm roninchef: @shantarohse digital is ment for the remix and mashup. Infinite copies are awesome. #lrnchat
9:20:49 pm hybridkris: Also, the AICC tried to spec the Smart Graphic which would allow you to have an XML configed aircraft panel. Set the xml and reuse. #lrnchat
9:21:00 pm benduffy: @Priaak Re-use can be can be determined later as long as the nuggets are small and concise. That adds to their flexibility later.. #lrnchat
9:21:06 pm ThomasStone: Then use transforms/etc. to piece them together for each modality. That way, you at least get partial re-use. #lrnchat
9:21:36 pm hybridkris: @moehlert We also keep the audio and text separate so reworking in a new language or in a new context is easy(er). #lrnchat
9:22:01 pm edwsonoma: #lrnchat @Priaak sounds a lot like tech writing to me. DITA gives people the structure needed to create content for multiple uses.
9:22:13 pm lrnchat: @Priaak Modular content, content nougats and a plan for reuse right at the start. Great plan. (oh, and borrow whatever you can!) #lrnchat
9:22:28 pm gminks: RT @marciamarcia: @J_Schulz Excellent point. I don’t know any orgs who want content just for the T&D dept. #lrnchat
9:22:43 pm KoreenOlbrish: @ThomasStone and tools available now make this so much easier. design isnt confined by reuse, its supported by it #lrnchat
9:22:46 pm moehlert: @hybridkris #lrnchat Well played sir.
9:22:53 pm hybridkris: @edwsonoma DITA also has learning objects in a draft spec. We’re using it for content. #lrnchat
9:23:05 pm lrnchat: New question coming in a few minutes. Get your reusability tips in now! #lrnchat
9:23:27 pm moehlert: @benduffy #lrnchat @priaak Doesn’t reuse also have to be supported by a business case?
9:23:43 pm roninchef: Reminds me of menu planning. I tried to overlap my core ingredients, but would give each plate it’s own unique thing. #lrnchat
9:24:08 pm silverchirps: @shantarohse isn’t it possible that all human intelligence always existed and learning objects have always been recycled? #Lrnchat
9:24:15 pm KoreenOlbrish: @moehlert i believe the typical biz case is “save money” 🙂 #lrnchat
9:24:30 pm ethang: nuggets and nougats, #lrnchat makes me hungry
9:24:36 pm benduffy: Content reuse needs to be supported by the learning program requirements dictated by business case. #lrnchat
9:24:43 pm carolwhit: @roninchef good analogy! #lrnchat
9:24:47 pm hybridkris: @moehlert We did a language conversion from English to Japanese in 4.5 days, 4 of which were the translator, half day to implement. #lrnchat
9:25:08 pm roninchef: @benduffy and deadlines. #lrnchat
9:25:21 pm KoreenOlbrish: @silverchirps wow, you took it THERE? all knowledge already exists. we’ve just yet to discover it…or reuse it. #lrnchat
9:25:35 pm gminks: RT @benduffy: Content reuse needs to be supported by the learning program requirements dictated by business case. #lrnchat
9:25:55 pm J_Schulz: OMG: @KoreenOlbrish; so that’s what I’ve been doing wrong! #lrnchat
9:26:22 pm benduffy: @roninchef Roger that. Deadlines influence reuse vs scratch create. I often want to put in more production value than is necessary #lrnchat
9:26:40 pm roninchef: @carolwhit Thanks, I pull on my years in the kitchen foe almost everything I do. #lrnchat
9:26:46 pm KoreenOlbrish: @silverchirps oh, i forgot the smiley 😉 #lrnchat
9:27:06 pm benduffy: I have gotten better at limiting production value to key areas. #lrnchat
9:27:09 pm moehlert: @KoreenOlbrish #lrnchat Right. Which in turn has to be supported by the right tools, processes, and design methodology. Chick meet egg 🙂
9:27:10 pm ThomasStone: Sorry @silvershirps, but I really don’t think “knowledge” exists as a floating abstraction, independent of individual minds. #lrnchat
9:27:47 pm ThomasStone: All of a sudden this took a philosophical turn, eh? Good thing I took 18 courses in philosophy in college and grad. school. LOL #lrnchat
9:28:03 pm shantarohse: @silverchirps That is a very comforting thought. I need to think about that a little more. #lrnchat
9:28:11 pm dangerdj: RT @hjarche: I learned how to make a tweet longer than 140 characters http://appendr.com/ #lrnchat
9:28:18 pm roninchef: @benduffy I was only half joking about the PS filters. I like to look at them as parameters. #lrnchat
9:28:23 pm marciamarcia: Deadlines influence reuse vs scratch create. I can want to put in more production value than necessary. via @benduffy for @moehlert #lrnchat
9:29:04 pm Priaak: reuse may be required for content that requires frequent updates #lrnchat/
9:29:19 pm lrnchat: Q3 via @shantarohse: Who is responsible for learning? How do we let them know? (Them = learner & educator) #lrnchat
9:29:28 pm roninchef: @marciamarcia Stanley Kubrik VS Roger Corman. #lrnchat
9:30:31 pm jilliant: @Priaak Yet reuse can also sometimes be nearly impossible for content that requires frequent updates… #lrnchat
9:30:36 pm lrnchat: Oh, so what that’s too philosophical after that other little riff? #lrnchat
9:31:05 pm carolwhit: @lrnchat Traditional thought says educator, I think learner is getting better at being responsible for their own learning now #lrnchat
9:31:17 pm benduffy: @lrnchat I’m stumped by the zenlike question re: who is responsible for learning… Isn’t that the student? #lrnchat
9:32:09 pm silverchirps: @KoreenOlbrish thanks for noticing me. It is so nice to be heard;) #Lrnchat
9:32:18 pm jimsky7: Learn-er == the student is responsible for learning. Teach-er == the teacher is responsible for learning. Simple? #lrnchat
9:32:28 pm shantarohse: I think the training department must be responsible. We get all the funding. #lrnchat
9:32:44 pm jimsky7: I’m a learn-er. #lrnchat
9:32:45 pm row4it: Believe it is the learner, but we assist in setting the environment and provide guides/resources. #lrnchat
9:32:48 pm J_Schulz: Most organizations that I am aware of do a very poor job preparing learners to take control of their own learning. #lrnchat
9:32:51 pm kdwashburn: Student’s brain constructs learning; teacher should provide whatever is needed & possible for the constructing. #lrnchat
9:33:05 pm roninchef: @benduffy He who is responsible for learning already knows but does not realize it. #lrnchat
9:33:58 pm carolwhit: @kdwashburn Guess we’re headed back to that design issue, provide the framework for the learner to learn in #lrnchat
9:34:00 pm benduffy: @roninchef lol you’re the zenmaster can you hear my one hand clapping? #lrnchat
9:34:01 pm J_Schulz: There is more to giving them responsibility than simply making it available. #lrnchat
9:34:27 pm moehlert: @lrnchat #lrnchat “responsibility” for learning…does this equate to motivation?
9:34:54 pm ThomasStone: For humans, the learner is responsible for learning. For pets/animals, the trainer is because no concept of responsibility for them #lrnchat
9:35:06 pm roninchef: @benduffy Everybody put one hand together. It is bad Zen pun time! #lrnchat
9:35:07 pm worksmarts: @J_Schulz Yes – you can be responsible for driving a car and have to skills to do so #lrnchat
9:35:17 pm marciamarcia: @J_Schulz Many orgs also do a poor job of removing obstacles so we can learn naturally. #lrnchat
9:35:23 pm row4it: I agree with @J_ Schulz, and we should spend greater time in setting that environment. #lrnchat
9:35:39 pm benduffy: Responsibility lies in the creator making something meaningful and necessary. Can’t force people to learn un-needed information. #lrnchat
9:36:02 pm KoreenOlbrish: we’re trained in schools 2 b passive receptacles but systems fail the individuals. we should all b empowered 2 advocate 4 ourselves #lrnchat
9:36:21 pm gminks: RT @kdwashburn: Student’s brain constructs learning; teacher should provide whatever is needed & possible for the constructing. #lrnchat
9:36:34 pm Priaak: learner is responsible for learning… the educator shares the responsibility in measurement #lrnchat/
9:36:44 pm richardsheehy: #lrnchat many organization place more obstacles in the way of effective learning instead of removing them
9:36:57 pm worksmarts: RT @marciamarcia @J_Schulz Many orgs also do a poor job of removing obstacles so we can learn naturally. #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:37:08 pm carolwhit: @KoreenOlbrish Funny thing is, we don’t start out that way. Young children want to learn. #lrnchat
9:37:27 pm lrnchat: So putting on our educator hats, what are we doing to help people recognize and embrace their inner learner? #lrnchat
9:37:47 pm worksmarts: @richardsheehy What does an environment need to be free of most obstacles to learning? #lrnchat
9:37:50 pm roninchef: Responsibility is shared between the teacher and the student. One to teach one to learn. Co-operation is key here. #lrnchat
9:38:06 pm KoreenOlbrish: @carolwhit absolutely. they don’t see any barriers, or think there is anything they CAN’T learn #lrnchat
9:38:20 pm Quinnovator: you can’t *cause* learning, only can create environments conducive; learner has some responsibility (but you can entice 🙂 #lrnchat
9:38:21 pm richardsheehy: @KoreenOlbrish #lrnchat that is exactly the difference between school and learning
9:38:30 pm kdwashburn: Celebrate growth, no matter how small. Help the learner recognize when he/she has grown. #lrnchat
9:38:58 pm carolwhit: @lrnchat start with providing just what they need, when they need it #lrnchat
9:39:16 pm Quinnovator: @richardsheehy as I often say: we’re the ones who’ve retained our love of learning *despite* schooling #lrnchat
9:39:17 pm roninchef: @Quinnovator The idea of ambient learning, perhaps? #lrnchat
9:39:20 pm silverchirps: @kdwashburn Yes, I agree. Teacher’s role is to create optimal learning environment for learners. #lrnchat
9:39:52 pm marciamarcia: @carolwhit Ask group of adults how many can sing & ~50% say yes. Ask group of 5yr olds & 100% say yes. System failed us somewhere. #lrnchat
9:39:57 pm Quinnovator: @roninchef ambient learning, mentoring, making meaningful, … #lrnchat
9:40:11 pm worksmarts: @lrnchat 2 recognize + embrace inner learner people need 2 “see” thought processes + end products visually, eg mind maps, ROI #lrnchat
9:40:13 pm shantarohse: Learning to learn is a key part of my training strategy. #lrnchat
9:40:26 pm Quinnovator: @marciamarcia same with drawing, acting, etc #lrnchat
9:40:46 pm richardsheehy: @worksmarts #lrnchat I just thing some organizations make it harder for the people who are interested in improving the learning environment
9:40:48 pm benduffy: @Quinnovator (RT) you can’t *cause* learning, only can create environments conducive; learner has some responsibility #lrnchat
9:41:03 pm Quinnovator: RT @shantarohse Learning to learn is a key part of my training strategy. #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:41:16 pm moehlert: RT @shantarohse: Learning to learn is a key part of my training strategy. #lrnchat
9:41:22 pm kdwashburn: @shantarohse Learning to learn should be the central goal of formal education! #lrnchat
9:41:24 pm carolwhit: @Quinnovator seems the system is still part of the problem #lrnchat
9:41:29 pm lrnchat: @shantarohse Seems to be some irony there. Hoping part of your strategy is to help them rediscover their capacity to learn. #lrnchat
9:41:45 pm worksmarts: @marciamarcia Yes, confidence is eroded through traditional approaches to schooling – makes teachers important + learners less so #lrnchat
9:42:10 pm shantarohse: @Quinnovator RE:entice. Sometimes I feel I am in marketing, not training. #lrnchat
9:42:41 pm richardsheehy: #lrnchat anothe rrole for the teacher is to follow up with the learner (dare I say the a word)
9:42:46 pm Quinnovator: @lrnchat but augmenting their skills, too! May love learning, but maybe could be more effective? #lrnchat
9:42:53 pm benduffy: I’m not sure we need to teach people how to learn, that’s human nature. We need to make necessary and relevant learning #lrnchat
9:42:57 pm MariaOD: RT @Quinnovator RT @shantarohse Learning to learn is a key part of my training strategy. #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:43:08 pm carolwhit: @shantarohse I’ve found marketing classes something that were lacking in my ID program, but have to use constantly now #lrnchat
9:43:14 pm KoreenOlbrish: @shantarohse don’t you think we have an intrinsic capacity to learn? is it learning to learn, or recognizing our capacity to learn? #lrnchat
9:43:23 pm Quinnovator: @shantarohse motivation is a part of learning: need to help them see why it’s important to them (but you should know why 😉 #lrnchat
9:43:53 pm worksmarts: Interesting that many of us see marketing as a core competency for learning pros #lrnchat
9:44:01 pm lrnchat: I’m going to toss in a bonus question. Please stay to answer if you can. If not, please answer during the week and mark #lrnchat
9:44:11 pm Quinnovator: @benduffy there’s evidence that most folks aren’t effective self-learners #lrnchat
9:44:13 pm gminks: maybe we need to develop learning events, not classes #lrnchat
9:44:21 pm richardsheehy: @KoreenOlbrish #lrnchat I think the intrinsic capacity is curiosity and the consequences are to be learned from . or not
9:44:37 pm lrnchat: Q4: If you could say 1 thing to Fortune 500 CEOs & CTOs about learning, what would it be? #lrnchat
9:45:04 pm KoreenOlbrish: @richardsheehy in the case of my middle kiddo, usually not 😉 #lrnchat
9:45:05 pm Quinnovator: YES! RT @gminks maybe we need to develop learning events, not classes #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:45:09 pm worksmarts: @gminks How about learning incubators, not events #lrnchat
9:45:34 pm ThomasStone: Q4 answer: “Value learning.” #lrnchat
9:45:45 pm tgrevatt: Good evening #lrnchat – just rushed home to catch the last few mins (does that mean I’m addicted?!) #lrnchat
9:45:48 pm kdwashburn: @lrnchat Unless you and your people are engaged in learning, your irrelevance is already in process. #lrnchat
9:45:52 pm Quinnovator: @lrnchat don’t think of learning as ‘training’ think of it as problem-solving, design, creativity, innovation… #lrnchat
9:45:55 pm carolwhit: @lrnchat Allowing your staff time to learn what they need to do their job will only help the company (not just formal training) #lrnchat
9:46:07 pm hybridkris: @lrnchat Continual education of your teams is one of the most important things you can offer. #lrnchat
9:46:09 pm Priaak: we seem to be assuming that there is a 1-1 interaction – in many cases there may not be a educator with self paced learning – mgr #lrnchat/
9:46:26 pm Quinnovator: @tgrevatt in the same boat, (er, same ‘fix’…? 🙂 #lrnchat
9:46:55 pm marciamarcia: @worksmarts Marketing is a core competency for everyone today. Educing (bring out w/ education) too. #lrnchat
9:47:03 pm gminks: @lrnchat I’d tell them: you are measuring it wrong #lrnchat
9:47:10 pm jilliant: RT @Quinnovator: @lrnchat don’t think of learning as ‘training’ think of it as problem-solving, design, creativity, innovation… #lrnchat
9:47:21 pm silverchirps: @Quinnovator “You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him find it within himself.”- Galileo Galilei #quote #lrnchat
9:47:24 pm roninchef: @gminks That is part of the SoMe approach. Build up a buzz in the org. Value is perception. Payoff is what they take away. #lrnchat
9:47:26 pm rdeis: @richardsheehy I agree with the curiosity thought. That’s what brought me to this event for the first time #lrnchat
9:47:27 pm gminks: I would also say: you’re funding learning wrong #lrnchat
9:47:42 pm Quinnovator: @hybridkris oh, I wouldn’t use the ‘e’ word! (Pink Floyd: “We don’t need no edukashun”) #lrnchat
9:47:50 pm gminks: @worksmarts cuz no one will fund an incubator #lrnchat
9:47:51 pm KoreenOlbrish: encourage critical thinking, not skill development #lrnchat
9:48:03 pm worksmarts: @lrnchat CEOs & CTOs stop trying to replicate + adopt learning programs of other companies. Be on the forefront – allow innovate #lrnchat
9:48:04 pm tgrevatt: Q4 Answer – never stop learning and never stop facilitating others to learn. No learning == no innovation. #lrnchat
9:48:09 pm jimsky7: I make learning “materials” that stay constant (modular) and then create “stories” that wrap them into “courses” when needed. #lrnchat
9:48:13 pm richardsheehy: RT @kdwashburn: @lrnchat Unless U & yr ppl R engaged in learning, yr irrelevance is alrdy in process. #lrnchat (very Demmingesque)
9:48:21 pm marciamarcia: Don’t think of learning as training, think of it as problem-solving, design, creativity, innovation… via @Quinnovator #lrnchat
9:48:22 pm Quinnovator: @silverchirps yes, facilitation, not presentation! #lrnchat
9:48:26 pm worksmarts: RT @KoreenOlbrish encourage critical thinking, not skill development #lrnchat
9:48:29 pm gminks: the only competitive advantage you have is how fast your people can learn #heyceos #lrnchat
9:48:33 pm ThomasStone: Oooh Quinn busts out with the Floyd! (my favorite group) #lrnchat
9:48:46 pm benduffy: Learning is’t about telling someone what you think they need to know. It’s about providing a ripe method to fill the knowledge gap. #lrnchat
9:49:25 pm mfubib: RT @benduffy:I’m not sure we need to teach people how to learn, thats human nature We need to make necessary and relevant learning #lrnchat
9:49:46 pm worksmarts: Build the “container” for the conversation and innovation in the workplace and in digital collaboration environments #lrnchat
9:50:06 pm Quinnovator: RT @benduffy Learning isn’t about telling someone what…they need to know. It’s about providing a ripe method to fill the…gap #lrnchat
9:50:37 pm moehlert: RT @worksmarts: RT @KoreenOlbrish encourage critical thinking, not skill development #lrnchat
9:51:01 pm thecleversheep: As Wesch might ask: Is it more important for students to be knowledgeable or knowledge-able? #lrnchat
9:51:41 pm marciamarcia: My msg to execs about learning: It’s useful everywhere. Discovery and learning are competitive advantages throughout your org. #lrnchat
9:52:06 pm ethang: Cool, build a container for innovation @worksmarts #lrnchat – and make sure everybody gets a key
9:52:10 pm tgrevatt: fostering curiosity and creating a culture (just back from a culture workshop 🙂 )of enquiry on many levels is imp. #lrnchat
9:52:14 pm marciamarcia: Is it more important for people to be knowledgeable or knowledge-able? via @thecleversheep #lrnchat
9:52:24 pm worksmarts: @ethang You bet! #lrnchat
9:53:09 pm tgrevatt: @marciamarcia I could be knowledgeable but not able to be a practioner though…interesting word play #lrnchat
9:53:10 pm Quinnovator: @ethang don’t contain it, set innovation free! #lrnchat
9:54:16 pm carolwhit: @marciamarcia …and allow innovation to drive the discovery process, too often innovation is the first thing to get killed #lrnchat
9:54:24 pm row4it: @marciamarcia, but is the discovery piece too mushy for some senior leader to get? #lrnchat
9:54:58 pm moehlert: RT @ethang: Cool, build a container for innovation @worksmarts #lrnchat – and make sure everybody gets a key
9:55:19 pm roninchef: @row4it Are they not discovering something when they use Google? #lrnchat
9:55:49 pm ethang: @Quinnovator #lrnchat well put! no bricks, no walls
9:55:51 pm moehlert: @Quinnovator #lrnchat I look at the “container” as process….innovation needs systematic support
9:55:58 pm row4it: My point @carolwhit! most execs don’t get what it take to create the innovation and creativity environment #lrnchat
9:56:13 pm Quinnovator: @roninchef, actually, I think labels are a big barrier for us, as @rowit is hinting at #lrnchat
9:56:57 pm roninchef: @Quinnovator It is the action. Not the label. #lrnchat
9:57:32 pm Quinnovator: @moehlert agree w/ systemic support, but needs to be enabled throughout workplace & workday, not something apart, ubiquitous #lrnchat
9:57:55 pm lrnchat: Last thing we do here (tho feel free to keep chattin) is to ask you to tell us abt something your working on & if we can assist you #lrnchat
9:58:24 pm Quinnovator: @roninchef it’s not what you mean by the label, it’s what the CEO thinks the label means 😮 #lrnchat
9:58:29 pm Priaak: exec must also allow time for learning… no one wants to take mandatory learning after work hours #lrnchat/
9:58:51 pm lrnchat: @row4it They may not know how to create discovery-friendly environment, but most execs know they want it. #lrnchat
9:58:53 pm carolwhit: @Quinnovator guess we’re back to marketing again! #lrnchat
9:59:24 pm moehlert: @lrnchat #lrnchat Working on slides for BIG presentation next week. Need thoughts/images of virtual worlds & learning. KTHX! 🙂
9:59:35 pm shantarohse: @roninchef Without a common language, CEO can stop any action while it is still a label. #lrnchat
9:59:35 pm Quinnovator: @carolwhit I like to think of it as making it meaningful, relevant, motivating 😉 #lrnchat
9:59:38 pm tgrevatt: I’m pondering a submission for #devlearn, call for papers is now out, blimey – is is that time already, time flies…. #lrnchat
9:59:50 pm roninchef: @Quinnovator Fair enough. 🙂 #lrnchat
10:00:10 pm Quinnovator: @moehlert how’d that LOLcat get in here? #lrnchat
10:00:26 pm roninchef: @shantarohse Isn’t the Google common enough? #lrnchat
10:00:51 pm carolwhit: @Quinnovator Yes, as learning professionals, we have a higher use for marketing, don’t we? 🙂 #lrnchat
10:01:09 pm shantarohse: @Quinnovator @marciamarcia @carolwhit Is it marketing or rhetorical skills you are talking about? #lrnchat
10:01:42 pm Quinnovator: @carolwhit LOL #lrnchat
10:02:04 pm Quinnovator: @shantarohse I’m talking making learning engaging, but… #lrnchat
10:02:31 pm marciamarcia: @shantarohse Marketing. Making the case for value, presenting the benefits and return. #lrnchat
10:02:45 pm carolwhit: @shantarohse If you have to “sell” it to a CEO/CLO, then there has to be some marketing involved to make it relevant to them #lrnchat
10:03:00 pm Quinnovator: @lrnchat Apologies for showing up late, and thanks for the participation of all of you! #lrnchat
10:03:20 pm MariaOD: working to build a culture of learning one small group at a time. Rented the hall, got a band and great food..where are the guests?#lrnchat
10:03:30 pm KoreenOlbrish: we learning people could stand to be a little more like sales lizards 🙂 #lrnchat
10:04:30 pm KoreenOlbrish: Thanks for ANOTHER great chat session! Always leave inspired! #lrnchat
10:04:31 pm silverchirps: I need good existing examples for how Twitter can be used in langauge teaching/learning. #lrnchat
10:04:34 pm row4it: Told 2 combine a Corp. Univ & Quality office in2 1 dept that provides laser focus assistance 2 move cty on efficiency journey #lrnchat
10:04:39 pm roninchef: @KoreenOlbrish Lizards? I thought they were weasels. #lrnchat
10:04:43 pm Quinnovator: @MariaOD did you send out the invitations? #lrnchat
10:04:55 pm marciamarcia: Working on presentation for next week & welcome thoughts/images for “reinventing enterprise learning.” Sales lizards welcome. #lrnchat
10:05:08 pm shantarohse: Thank you all for another engaging evening. I have dozens of little yellow stars on the right of my screen 🙂 Many thanks. #lrnchat
10:05:16 pm benduffy: Thanks all, another inspiring Thursday night chatting with you about learning. #lrnchat
10:05:26 pm moehlert: @Quinnovator #lrnchat I believe that’s how you spell CULTURE. 🙂
10:05:39 pm tgrevatt: @KoreenOlbrish I find the sales & marketing folks a fascinating species to study – the sales process is akin to dating #lrnchat
10:06:13 pm lrnchat: Thank you everyone for participating. Please consider writing about your experience and sending me links. We need to market 🙂 #lrnchat
10:06:17 pm gminks: thanks #lrnchat!
10:06:17 pm Quinnovator: @marciamarcia just been doing presentations on that, remind me to lob in your direction #lrnchat
10:06:25 pm roninchef: Good night chatters. See you all on the internets. #lrnchat
10:06:34 pm benduffy: Welcome all to participate online in next week’s http://www.eLearningplaygroup.com meeting Tuesday 8:30 AM to 10:00 am, fee, url 4 details #lrnchat
10:07:09 pm Quinnovator: thanks and good night all you wonderful tweeple! #lrnchat
10:07:18 pm lrnchat: If you haven’t done so already, please go to https://lrnchat.wordpress.com and click through to “Whos-who”. #lrnchat
10:07:48 pm benduffy: @benduffy meant to say FREE… lol we’re examining eLearning course best practices. #lrnchat
10:07:50 pm KoreenOlbrish: sales= speak with authority, ask for what you want, leverage relationships, be confident & armed with data 🙂 #lrnchat
10:08:18 pm silverchirps: And build on prior knowledge. @Quinnovator @carolwhit I like to think of it as making it meaningful, relevant, motivating 😉 #lrnchat
10:08:21 pm row4it: RT @row4it: You are a great group to hang with on a Thursday evening. Always take away something. Thanks. #lrnchat
10:08:22 pm moehlert: #lrnchat GREAT job ‘chatters. Thx for all the learnin’s !
10:08:24 pm carolwhit: Thanks for another great evening! #lrnchat
10:08:27 pm J_Schulz: ‘night all #lrnchat
10:09:02 pm hybridkris: Thanks for the great chat! #lrnchat

Transcript of #lrnchat 4/23/09

8:33:28 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Lots of Virtual Worlds +Learning going on this week between #3DTLC & #fcvw #fcvw09
8:34:03 pm lrnchat: Great to see everyone dropping by. I’ll be tossing out the questions tonight from this acct (mild-mannered @marciamarcia IRL) #lrnchat
8:34:19 pm hybridkris: Kinda paying attention to #lrnchat whilst at the Penguins playoff game.
8:34:54 pm lrnchat: Q1: (starting slow) What did you learn today? What did you teach? #lrnchat
8:34:57 pm Quinnovator: @moehlert not to forgetn #learntrends, also this week #lrnchat
8:35:14 pm lynneliz: Dropping in on #Irnchat tonight to check it out #lrnchat
8:35:18 pm cammybean: Tips for keeping up on an iPod? #lrnchat
8:35:25 pm damonregan: @hybridkris I’m impressed with your attempt. #lrnchat
8:35:25 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Asked some Virtual World (VW) peers about predictions for VW+Learning…answers No more courses, no more univ’s, no more answers
8:35:55 pm tgrevatt: Yup, congrats to all involved with #learntrends neat to see that travel around the time zones #lrnchat
8:36:19 pm damonregan: @moehlert no more answers? #lrnchat
8:36:22 pm moehlert: @Quinnovator #lrnchat Quite right! #learntrends …busy week
8:36:31 pm carolwhit: For next 90min I’ll be chatting bout learning on #lrnchat with some brilliant peeps. Join us! Deets: http://sn.im/lrnin
8:36:49 pm moehlert: @cammybean #lrnchat iPhone? iTouch? Tweetie is for me…
8:37:30 pm hybridkris: @damonregan I do the best I can. #lrnchat
8:37:32 pm roninchef: #learntrends ended up being my talk radio while I did a final push on a project this week. #lrnchat
8:37:42 pm moehlert: @damonregan #lrnchat Yeah, the idea being that we’ll teach ppl how to ask the right questions and how to investigate/analyze/synthesize
8:37:43 pm ThomasStone: For next 90min I’ll be chatting bout learning on #lrnchat with some brilliant peeps. Join us! Deets: http://sn.im/lrnin
8:38:49 pm cammybean: @moehlert #lrnchat on tweetie but it’s sort of awkward to keep up with pace
8:39:05 pm marciamarcia: What did I learn today? Ppl in training dept should be sharing how they’re using microsharing to help build pool of use cases. #lrnchat
8:39:21 pm Quinnovator: @moehlert no more answers? what if learners come out of VWs with them? need reflection on top of experience, I reckon #lrnchat
8:39:31 pm moehlert: @cammybean #lrnchat Summizer is also good…and free
8:40:26 pm marciamarcia: As part of #twitterprise webinar series I was talking about formal & informal learning use cases, & realized very few published #lrnchat
8:40:36 pm Mike_Fishman: For next 90min I’ll be lurking – learning on #lrnchat with some brilliant peeps. Join us! Deets: http://sn.im/lrnin #lrnchat
8:40:56 pm moehlert: What did I learn today? That you can’t fix a bicycle into an airplane #lrnchat
8:41:23 pm roninchef: @marciamarcia Can you elaborate? I am always talking about smaller pieces in our training. #lrnchat
8:41:26 pm Quinnovator: @marciamarcia seems to be same for social media (SoMe) in general; few are touting wins yet (but they’re happening) #lrnchat
8:41:45 pm moehlert: @Quinnovator #lrnchat Whoa. Learners coming up w/ answers? 😉
8:41:48 pm marciamarcia: RT @lrnchat Q1: What did you learn today? What did you teach? #lrnchat
8:42:32 pm Quinnovator: @moehlert well, *negotiating* answers… 🙂 #lrnchat
8:42:42 pm worksmarts: @marciamarcia Learning case studies are often buried in HBR articles by consultants like Amy Edmonson and Marilyn Darling #lrnchat
8:42:55 pm shantarohse: What did I learn today? Contrary to all the change seminars I’ve attended that suggest otherwise, people really do try to change. #lrnchat
8:43:10 pm Quinnovator: what did I learn today? that changing the way you are takes work, support, models, and more #lrnchat
8:43:25 pm cammybean: #lrnchat I learned it’s harder to keep up with 3 kids than to “work”
8:43:28 pm gminks: I learned that not everyone has the same view of the business that training has #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:43:34 pm tgrevatt: I learnt from AAA game postmortems that similar challenges affect them too http://tinyurl.com/clc6c4 #lrnchat
8:43:39 pm Quinnovator: @shantarohse “There is no try, there is only *do*” 🙂 #lrnchat
8:44:00 pm gminks: I also learned that I am presenting a case study to a conference in July 🙂 🙂 #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:44:08 pm cammybean: #lrnchat but I already knew that
8:44:12 pm BradnDeedo: Looking for any info on starting up mobile learning. #lrnchat/
8:44:14 pm moehlert: @marciamarcia #lrnchat Quote from #3DTLC “there is no formal or informal, only effective & ineffective”
8:44:17 pm marciamarcia: @roninchef How can we talk about what we’re doing differently inside Ed to rest of org? #lrnchat
8:44:23 pm worksmarts: I learned that the barriers to performance of some mid-level supervisors are created with great skill by their managers #lrnchat
8:44:48 pm Quinnovator: @cammybean if only we could harness that energy, world’s problems are solved! #lrnchat
8:44:49 pm shantarohse: @Quinnovator Less try, yes. But sometimes less do would be nice too 😉 #lrnchat
8:45:07 pm Dave_Ferguson: #lrnchat I learned how messy and how tech-dependent a hacked website leaves you feeling.
8:45:09 pm tgrevatt: @worksmarts lol #lrnchat
8:45:11 pm gminks: @worksmarts good one! LOL #lrnchat
8:45:22 pm marciamarcia: @worksmarts Case studies can be daunting (and too often academic). I hope we can see more talk of simply how we’re using tools. #lrnchat
8:45:32 pm hjarche: learned lots from the web today – my head is about to asplode #lrnchat
8:45:39 pm gminks: @marciamarcia I’m finding it harder to talk about anything — too busy #lrnchat
8:45:58 pm Quinnovator: @worksmarts is it easier to posit stupidity than conspiracy? #lrnchat
8:46:24 pm worksmarts: @Quinnovator perhaps #lrnchat
8:46:27 pm gminks: @marciamarcia so talking about tools isn’t enough sometimes, have to have the story too right? #lrnchat
8:46:28 pm Quinnovator: @hjarche blowing up Harold’s head? or the training department? #lrnchat
8:46:31 pm row4it: Thanks to some great tweets I learned about some SN policy sites/locations, thanks @marciamarcia #lrnchat
8:46:53 pm mfrancone: #lrnchat i learned a lot of people say they want to try SoMe but then don’t ever *try*
8:47:01 pm roninchef: I learned my audience is not always my team mates. #lrnchat
8:47:20 pm hjarche: @Quinnovator many months before Guy Fawkes day, when we can blow it all up #lrnchat
8:47:23 pm marciamarcia: @gminks Then lets tweet some of the ways we’re using the tools to help educate and learn. Time nuff for that, yes? #lrnchat
8:47:37 pm Quinnovator: @marciamarcia do we need a simpler case study format that supports ease of reporting: problem, resasoning, approach, lessons? #lrnchat
8:47:53 pm Quinnovator: @roninchef ouch. Valuable lesson, but also sounds painful! #lrnchat
8:48:01 pm marciamarcia: @roninchef “I learned my audience is not always my team mates.” Don’t leave us hangin. #lrnchat
8:48:31 pm ethang: @lrnchat I learned this week that it’s difficult to be a low-level SoMe innovator (hierarchically)… but not impossible #lrnchat
8:48:48 pm BradnDeedo: I’ve learned the farther I go the behinder I get. How did this happen????? #lrnchat/
8:48:53 pm Quinnovator: @mfrancone sadly interesting; wonder what it takes to get them to *try*? Just late adopters, resisters, ? #lrnchat
8:49:14 pm marciamarcia: @Quinnovator I’m all for more (and easier) case format. Have some ideas. Dang, just what I need, a do-list. Seriously tho, grt idea #lrnchat
8:49:19 pm moehlert: @marciamarcia #lrnchat #1 Way….Expertise locator…
8:49:28 pm Quinnovator: @ethang that’s inspiring! tips? #lrnchat
8:49:41 pm shantarohse: @roninchef There’s a follow up tweet I hope! #lrnchat
8:49:54 pm tgrevatt: @ethang yup, a little critical mass really helps get things adopted, keeping things fresh and alive help too #lrnchat
8:50:06 pm marciamarcia: I learned this week that it’s difficult to be a low-level SoMe innovator (hierarchically) but not impossible. via @BradnDeedo #lrnchat
8:50:08 pm worksmarts: Using wikis 2 nlrge vista of HR+SrMgrs who are subscribed to my Learning + OD Portal – they are reminded via email of new topics + #lrnchat
8:50:11 pm JaneBozarth: Rt @shantarohse Contrary to all the change seminars I’ve attended that suggest otherwise, people really do try to change. #lrnchat
8:50:23 pm roninchef: I am a developer. I make all the purty pictures. I need to remember my audience may not always have the same esoteric tastes as us. #lrnchat
8:50:24 pm hjarche: think constraints can help a lot in learning on Web, such as pecha kucha – 20 slides & 20 secs/slide #lrnchat
8:50:24 pm Dave_Ferguson: #lrnchat “For complex learning, there is no such thing as correct behavior.” (Doesn’t mean it’s easy to learn the complex.)
8:51:17 pm MariaOD: RT @moehlert @marciamarcia #lrnchat Quote from #3DTLC “there is no formal or informal, only effective & ineffective” yes!
8:51:19 pm moehlert: @hjarche #lrnchat Spot on! Constraints are THE key to creativity
8:51:22 pm worksmarts: @Dave_Ferguson Yes, Complexity needs to be messy #lrnchat
8:51:53 pm mfrancone: yes, agree pecha kucha is powerful #lrnchat
8:51:55 pm roninchef: I often have to step outside of my knowledge zone and ask myself how would my mother-in-law navigate this? #lrnchat
8:52:01 pm dougsymington: think constraints can help a lot in learning on Web, such as pecha kucha – 20 slides & 20 secs/slide #lrnchat via @hjarche
8:52:07 pm tgrevatt: I discovered an innovative new presentation tool, it has the neatest interface http://prezi.com/ #lrnchat
8:52:07 pm Quinnovator: RT worksmarts Using wikis 2 nlrge vista of HR+SrMgrs who are subscribed to my Learning + OD Portal – they are reminded via email #lrnchat
8:52:11 pm hjarche: In complex environments, all learning is emergent – first the test, then the lesson – jump in folks, the water’s just fine #lrnchat
8:52:21 pm marciamarcia: Twitterprise #1 Usecase: Expertise locator. via @moehlert (don’t need middle-person who knows you both like in the old days) #lrnchat
8:52:40 pm hjarche: @moehlert I knew we could agree on something 😉 #lrnchat
8:52:56 pm roninchef: @tgrevatt I was on they’re beta test. I love that app! #lrnchat
8:53:18 pm gminks: @Mike_Fishman are you using tweetchat fro #lrnchat? http://tweetchat.com/room/lrnchat
8:53:37 pm cammybean: I often have to step outside of my knowledge zone and ask myself how would my mother-in-law navigate this? #lrnchat (via @roninchef)
8:53:47 pm traininginn: RT @Dave_Ferguson “For complex learning, there is no such thing as correct behavior.” #lrnchat
8:53:53 pm roninchef: their beta (sorry) #lrnchat
8:53:55 pm moehlert: @hjarche Exactly. The opposite of imposed structure isn’t chaos it’s emergent structure…. #lrnchat
8:53:55 pm worksmarts: @marciamarcia Weaving the social network will get both the expertise and the wisdom, though #lrnchat
8:53:56 pm Quinnovator: @hjarche exactly, you’ve got to be in it to ‘get’ it (lesson from #learntrends, many talked about how had to use to ‘get’) #lrnchat
8:54:02 pm tgrevatt: @roninchef Super cool, I loved the zoom/rotate widget. Such a refreshing approach. Must have been a fun beta. #lrnchat
8:54:05 pm ethang: @tgrevatt @Quinnovator a good plan, persistence, and some friends in higher places #lrnchat
8:54:06 pm carolwhit: #lrnchat I learned that when I forget to eat because I’m working too much, I shouldn’t
8:54:27 pm moehlert: @hjarche #lrnchat Surely, that’s not the first!
8:54:39 pm marciamarcia: In complex environments, all learning is emergent. First the test, then the lesson. Jump in folks, the water’s just fine @hjarche #lrnchat
8:54:40 pm gminks: RT @traininginn RT @Dave_Ferguson “For complex learning, there is no such thing as correct behavior.” #lrnchat
8:54:52 pm roninchef: @tgrevatt I would lose hours just noodling. I will be purchasing soon. #lrnchat
8:54:57 pm Mike_Fishman: @gminks Yes – i am using tweetchat … tweetdeck wasn’t tenable – but it’s moving really fast AND the phone rings #lrnchat
8:55:14 pm Dave_Ferguson: @carolwhit #lrnchat Not by work alone was man bre(a)d.
8:55:43 pm worksmarts: @Mike_Fishman Click on Refresh Speed below text box to slow it down #lrnchat
8:56:04 pm Quinnovator: #twitterprise win: quick feedback to ideas, queries #lrnchat
8:56:19 pm carolwhit: @Dave_Ferguson #lrnchat Too true!
8:56:27 pm roninchef: @marciamarcia often the lesson and the test are one and the same in my org. #lrnchat
8:56:31 pm mfrancone: oop. thought i could hang out longer, but 3 y/o is not in a good mood tonight. this is fun! hope to be back. #lrnchat
8:56:53 pm Dave_Ferguson: @cammybean #lrnchat Didja ever notice, it’s only OTHER folks who need to get out of their comfort zones?
8:57:05 pm moehlert: @worksmarts #lrnchat http://tweetchat.com/room/lrnchat is VERY cool 🙂 #lrnchat
8:57:14 pm marciamarcia: Weaving the social network will get *both* the expertise and the wisdom. via @worksmarts #lrnchat
8:57:35 pm gminks: so the problem with twitter: what if you can’t be public? #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:57:47 pm dtitle: There is no learning without cognitive dissonance… every else must be re-evaluated to encompass new concepts #lrnchat
8:57:48 pm Mike_Fishman: @worksmarts – Phwew! this is much better .. thanks. #lrnchat
8:57:56 pm Quinnovator: @mfrancone gotta have your priorities straight, hope to ‘see’ you again #lrnchat
8:58:00 pm gminks: RT @roninchef @marciamarcia often the lesson and the test are one and the same in my org #lrnchat
8:58:04 pm roninchef: @gminks better crypto! #lrnchat
8:58:12 pm Quinnovator: @Dave_Ferguson that makes me uncomfortable #lrnchat
8:58:25 pm hjarche: had comment on learning products today; tools are fine, but what is the output? pecha kucha was example of learning output; others? #lrnchat
8:58:46 pm marciamarcia: Didja ever notice, it’s only OTHER folks who need to get out of their comfort zones? via @Dave_Ferguson #lrnchat
8:58:46 pm Mike_Fishman: BTW – this week i learned it’s OK not to learn EVERYTHING and OK to let my team get smarter than I. #lrnchat
8:58:57 pm gminks: @roninchef ha ha #lrnchat
8:59:11 pm Quinnovator: @gminks whatever you do, don’t use the ‘Y’ word, or the trolls come out #lrnchat
8:59:33 pm hjarche: RT @dtitle There is no learning without cognitive dissonance .. every else must be re-evaluated to encompass new concepts #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:59:47 pm moehlert: @gminks #lrnchat Enterprise Twitter? #lrnchat
9:00:18 pm worksmarts: RT hjarche @dtitle There is no learning without cognitive dissonance .. every else must be re-evaluated to encompass new concept #lrnchat
9:00:23 pm Quinnovator: learned today: great tips/hints/more at lrnchat.wordpress.com for this #lrnchat
9:00:30 pm moehlert: @hjarche #lrnchat I seem to remember hearing that ‘all progress begins w/ dissatisfaction’ too #lrnchat
9:00:33 pm gminks: @Quinnovator yes, notice I restrained myself. but I may have opened the door (sorry!!) #lrnchat
9:00:33 pm shantarohse: @Mike_Fishman I relearn this everyday. It seems I forget overnight. #lrnchat
9:00:46 pm tgrevatt: @hjarche@dtitle – really like that. My best personal learning comes when I fail and have to fathom out how to succeed. #lrnchat
9:00:48 pm dtitle: Trouble with learning in life in general is the test usually comes before experience got to remember to append #lrnchat lol
9:00:52 pm BradnDeedo: I must thrive on dissonance – just wish the learning would follow #lrnchat
9:01:16 pm roninchef: @Quinnovator need to add a note about leaving the troll bait @ home #lrnchat
9:01:23 pm marciamarcia: @Dave_Ferguson The thing I miss most as an independent is being pushed out of my comfort zone, hair on fire, dealing w/ BHAG #lrnchat
9:01:50 pm Quinnovator: @BradnDeedo dissonance tolerance, a valuable attitude? dealing with ambiguity… #lrnchat
9:02:13 pm marciamarcia: I must thrive on dissonance – just wish the learning would follow via @BradnDeedo #lrnchat
9:02:37 pm roninchef: @dtitle try this http://tweetchat.com/room/lrnchat #lrnchat
9:02:42 pm Quinnovator: @moehlert so “I can’t get no *satisfaction*” is a good thing? #lrnchat
9:02:44 pm worksmarts: Learned that young learning professionals need to focus on learner characteristics – they are always relevant #lrnchat
9:02:45 pm dtitle: When my students say “I’m confused” I reply “then you’re learning” Got to have that dissonance factor to really see true learning #lrnchat
9:02:51 pm marciamarcia: Trouble with learning in life in general is the test usually comes before experience got to remember to append. via @dtitle #lrnchat
9:03:08 pm moehlert: @tgrevatt #lrnchat This is why games are popular…you just described Game Design Principle #1 🙂 #lrnchat
9:03:36 pm tgrevatt: @marciamarcia lol, I had to google BHAG #lrnchat
9:03:36 pm cammybean: @Dave_Ferguson I’m about to be out of my comfort zone and I can’t wait #lrnchat
9:03:36 pm Quinnovator: @marciamarcia as an independent you’re not pushed out of your comfort zone? I must be doing it wrong! #lrnchat
9:03:38 pm gminks: or just warn others of common troll calls RT @roninchef @Quinnovator need to add a note about leaving the troll bait @ home #lrnchat
9:03:45 pm row4it: I learned today that often what we think is in place in a organization and shift quickly without notice. #lrnchat
9:03:48 pm lrnchat: New question coming in a few minutes. Anything else big you learned today? #lrnchat
9:03:57 pm ethang: nice @BradnDeedo I’m learning that I thrive on synchopation #lrnchat
9:04:17 pm hjarche: @dtitle that’s the difference between life & school – in life, the test comes first #lrnchat
9:04:18 pm dtitle: failure is learning, Thomas Edison failed 10,000 times b4 he made a lightbulb. We learn what does not work as well as what does #lrnchat
9:04:36 pm Dave_Ferguson: #lrnchat Broad, deep learning also needs cog support, deliberate reflection; lots of orgs (and indivs) have trouble managing that.
9:04:36 pm worksmarts: RT @dtitle When my students say “I’m confused” I reply “then you’re learning” Got to have that dissonance factor to really see t #lrnchat
9:04:56 pm tgrevatt: @moehlert Oh yes indeed – although I usually need a bit of ‘scaffolding’ #lrnchat
9:05:10 pm roninchef: @gminks true true #lrnchat
9:05:15 pm gminks: I learned not everyone likes to work as hard as I do #lrnchat
9:05:33 pm hjarche: I was out of my comfort zone handling multiple channels during learntrends conference – lotsa learning going on #lrnchat
9:05:41 pm worksmarts: New managers are ripe to accept, learn and use the most cutting edge stuff we’re offering – much more than current managers #lrnchat
9:06:22 pm dtitle: To be a life long learner we must learn to embrace our failures as well as our successes, or we simply give up #lrnchat
9:06:31 pm BradnDeedo: @dtitle brilliant #lrnchat
9:06:39 pm marciamarcia: @gminks There are a growing number of terrific “inside the firewall” twitter-like tools. http://sn.im/4yo8i #lrnchat
9:06:57 pm Quinnovator: @worksmarts but I found many students are not comfortable with that ambiguity, have to scaffold it! #lrnchat
9:07:18 pm marciamarcia: To be a life long learner we must learn to embrace our failures as well as our successes, or we simply give up. via @dtitle #lrnchat
9:07:20 pm shantarohse: @Dave_Ferguson Nice “Lot of orgs and individuals have trouble remembering that…” (too many words to RT) #lrnchat
9:07:23 pm moehlert: #lrnchat If you are at all interested in Virtual Worlds for lrng/training – I am very impressed w/ Protosphere http://www.protonmedia.com #lrnchat
9:07:41 pm cammybean: The 10,000 hours of practice to achieve ‘greatness’ (just started Outliers) #lrnchat
9:07:50 pm Quinnovator: I’ve learned that a great way to learn is to volunteer to do something you know you need to learn! Great motivator! #lrnchat
9:08:02 pm silverchirps: @lrnchat I found out about tweetchat. I do a workshop on it to teach language teacher to use this for a live language instruction. #lrnchat
9:08:24 pm hjarche: @marciamarcia is inside the firewall twitter (yammer) as effective at emergent learning as the open web? rhetorical question #lrnchat
9:08:46 pm worksmarts: @Quinnovator When I mentioned scaffolding to an HR manager, I got an odd look – well, they think I’m strange anyway #lrnchat
9:09:00 pm marciamarcia: @Quinnovator So few people have clue what mentalscaffolding means. I use that often wishing it would enter meme stream. Good link? #lrnchat
9:09:23 pm KoreenOlbrish: I’m missing it! Aack! #lrnchat
9:09:33 pm gminks: @hjarche Y is not strictly inside the firewall, but if you think about it you have a preselected pool of expertise (sort of) #lrnchat
9:09:45 pm marciamarcia: @hjarche You didn’t just ask that did you! X-) #lrnchat
9:09:59 pm Mike_Fishman: I’ve learned that volunteering can get contagious. It can also get arduous. Who needs more work 🙂 #lrnchat
9:10:01 pm dtitle: right nowlearning diigo, activestudio, wordpress, & getting my own personal fail whale popping up alot, I accept it & try again #lrnchat
9:10:20 pm Dave_Ferguson: @hjarche #lrnchat Inside firewall only can be gateway drug / free sample to build interest / demand for the outside.
9:10:20 pm Quinnovator: btw, recommend don’t use any company ‘brand names’ (e.g. Y*****), unless you want to activate the marketing trolls #lrnchat
9:10:39 pm gminks: I learn best when I break something and have to fix it (yes I’m a techie..) #lrnchat
9:10:40 pm Mike_Fishman: oh ….. “Y” ….. lol — @gminks That “Y” right? #lrnchat
9:11:03 pm Quinnovator: gotta run, lad’s band concert, have a great chat! #lrnchat
9:11:16 pm gminks: @Mike_Fishman 🙂 yes. #lrnchat
9:11:21 pm hjarche: @Quinnovator oops! #lrnchat
9:11:27 pm dtitle: Mental Scaffolding is an exterior structure to build an internal one… very nice metaphor for what one must do in new situations #lrnchat
9:11:43 pm tgrevatt: @Mike_Fishman I use volunteering to get my ‘teaching fix’, very rewarding but needs to be managed to keep under control for sure #lrnchat
9:11:46 pm marciamarcia: @hjarche Our research shows amazing emergent learning happening inside the firewall too. Ppl sitting sideXside weren’t sharing #lrnchat
9:12:05 pm silverchirps: @Quinnovator I learn best by teaching. #lrnchat
9:12:31 pm roninchef: I am in a constant state of break and fix with my software and hardware. Working my way to some kind of tech no-mind. #lrnchat
9:12:36 pm moehlert: @marciamarcia #lrnchat I heard similar story from someone in 36 person company… #lrnchat
9:13:17 pm gminks: If there is a big org (like the one I work in) having an internal way to look for experts turns up all sorts of people #lrnchat
9:13:32 pm tgrevatt: @moehlert @marciamarcia Yup, even traditional non-digital social networks in orgs need encouraging #lrnchat
9:13:32 pm Mike_Fishman: @tgrevatt almost forgot my volunteer teaching for 15 yrs – thanks … Yes, great way to get outside your day-to-day #lrnchat
9:13:36 pm marciamarcia: @tgrevatt As a Edu mgr, I always had at least 1 class I could drop in and teach anytime I needed that connection. #lrnchat
9:13:54 pm dtitle: Poeple sidexside often need prompts to get conversation going.. twitter provides infinte prompting #lrnchat
9:14:08 pm ethang: I learned that I’m interested enough in learning to spend 90 minutes chatting about it with strangers in my free time #lrnchat
9:14:20 pm Dave_Ferguson: @gminks #lrnchat And in a big org, there are LOTS of nooks and crannies. Bigger they are, more opportunity to experiment w/o being noticed.
9:14:21 pm tgrevatt: @gminks so how do you acheive that in your org? #lrnchat
9:14:26 pm cammybean: @moehlert how about at an 8 person company ?! #lrnchat
9:14:46 pm hjarche: If interested in scaffolding, look at work by Barbara Means or David Jonassen #lrnchat
9:14:47 pm tgrevatt: @ethang watch out, this is addictive and highly entertaining! #lrnchat
9:15:01 pm BradnDeedo: @ethang That’s why I’m here. Need to learn too far behind not to. #lrnchat
9:15:10 pm moehlert: @ethang #lrnchat Good one. 🙂 #lrnchat
9:15:33 pm gminks: @Dave_Ferguson sshhhh don’t give that away! #lrnchat
9:15:42 pm dtitle: I find that teaching electives really stretches me in new ways, tried a pschology class this year talk about cognitiv dissonance! #lrnchat
9:15:46 pm hjarche: @KoreenOlbrish missing http://tweetchat.com/room/lrnchat ? #lrnchat
9:16:05 pm marciamarcia: Watch out, this is addictive and highly entertaining! via @tgrevatt #lrnchat
9:16:13 pm gminks: @tgrevatt we have an internal social media site, and we use “Y” to a point – its not behind the firewall so we have to be careful #lrnchat
9:16:22 pm Mike_Fishman: RT @ethang: I learned that I’m interested enough in learning to spend 90 minutes chatting about it with strangers in my free time #lrnchat
9:16:55 pm gminks: and I keep bringing people to things like this (right @Mike_Fishman) #lrnchat
9:17:07 pm hjarche: No strangers here, just learners #lrnchat
9:17:16 pm Mike_Fishman: @gminks NOW YOU TELL ME 🙂 – i don’t trust any site to be “safe” – And I have a bad habit of blurting … #lrnchat
9:17:17 pm worksmarts: @ marciamarcia DYK Dentists who work solo form social + learning networks by joining volunteer clinical staff at dental schools #lrnchat
9:17:21 pm Dave_Ferguson: @ethang #lrnchat I find I add 5 – 6 people to follow from each session. Not one has offered a free laptop or told me how to market.
9:17:31 pm gminks: @tgrevatt I think we still have ways to make that better though. #lrnchat
9:17:36 pm BradnDeedo: Excuse me but I’ve always been strange #lrnchat
9:17:46 pm lrnchat: Q2: How do you keep it real in your work? So far I’ve heard volunteering as a “teaching fix,” teaching electives… You? #lrnchat
9:18:08 pm roninchef: @gminks I tried with my team… they just looked at me. But that’s is your job, they said. #lrnchat
9:18:17 pm worksmarts: @Dave_Ferguson Did anyone get that laptop offer? #lrnchat
9:18:32 pm dtitle: must also have passion 4 what you are learning about, things that don’t connect with you on a visceral level are quickly forgotten #lrnchat
9:18:35 pm gminks: @lrnchat what do you mean “how do you keep it real in your work” #lrnchat
9:19:06 pm gminks: @roninchef I’m lucky to work with really curious smart people. They are hard to train though- they are almost too smart 😉 #lrnchat
9:19:37 pm worksmarts: RT @dtitle must also have passion 4 what you r learning about, things that don’t connect w/ you on visceral level are quickly 4gtn #lrnchat
9:19:41 pm marciamarcia: @gminks How do you stay connected to the people you are ultimately serving? Focus on the customer/learner. #lrnchat
9:20:08 pm Mike_Fishman: smart people are very hard to train … but they CAN be taught #lrnchat
9:20:10 pm gminks: @roninchef and – I don’t work in the same org as @Mike_Fishman, just the same company. I don’t think we’ve ever met f2f have we? #lrnchat
9:20:22 pm roninchef: @gminks I work with a batch of new parents. The thought of being up after 8 scared them some. #lrnchat
9:20:32 pm tgrevatt: @gminks – and the teachers can make the worst students too, I’m the annoying one with the hand up saying ‘pick me!’ #lrnchat
9:20:45 pm hjarche: @marciamarcia & get out of your office to see what’s happening – too many people stuck to the monitor #lrnchat
9:20:51 pm BradnDeedo: I’m lucky I teach 12-14 y-o. They have a thirst – they do like to try to hide it but it’s there. #lrnchat
9:21:07 pm gminks: @marciamarcia we are required to teach what we develop, we also include our audiences in material reviews #lrnchat
9:21:24 pm Mike_Fishman: @gminks #lrnchat
9:21:25 pm ThomasStone: When training smart people, pay close attention to the moment they “get” something. Then quickly move on. #lrnchat
9:21:27 pm dtitle: not just focus on the learner, but listen & make personal connection w/learner… must be at a visceral level for teacher too #lrnchat
9:21:45 pm roninchef: @gminks Same with us. #lrnchat
9:22:13 pm marciamarcia: Easy to get fascinated by bright objects (cool tools, great theories) & we’re curious after all. How do u keep learner focus #lrnchat
9:22:30 pm worksmarts: Got to say bye for now – keep learning and chatting! #lrnchat
9:22:32 pm tgrevatt: @marciamarcia I’ve got inside the learners’ heads by attending their training courses, observing them in action #lrnchat
9:22:33 pm moehlert: @tgrevatt #lrnchat aka “Spring Butt” 🙂 #lrnchat
9:22:58 pm marciamarcia: Not just focus on learner, but listen & make personal connection w/learner. Must be at a visceral level for teacher too via @dtitle #lrnchat
9:22:59 pm shantarohse: Q2 How do I keep it real? I go to their conferences and professional events and let myself get absorbed for a couple days. #lrnchat
9:23:00 pm moehlert: @marciamarcia #lrnchat You mean focus on learner as ultimate customer? #lrnchat
9:23:01 pm Dave_Ferguson: #lrnchat 1/2 Prime way for me to stay real(istic): spend time w/ actual learners; see how they work, what they work on.
9:23:01 pm row4it: @hjarche, I so agree and have to remind myself of my action often….we need to be out where the learning can assist. #lrnchat
9:23:06 pm gminks: @marciamarcia find out why they are at training, make sure to tie lesson back to what they came to learn #lrnchat
9:23:16 pm dtitle: true learning must be re enforced, yes move on, but bring it back next day, next week, then next month.. establish neural pathway #lrnchat
9:23:31 pm lrnchat: @worksmarts Thanks for joining us, learning with us and teaching with us! #lrnchat
9:23:45 pm roninchef: @marciamarcia We try to emphasize the value of the training. You will be this % faster if you learn this. #lrnchat
9:23:46 pm hjarche: training astronauts is quite different from training cashiers – some people used to HUGE amounts of information #lrnchat
9:23:52 pm Dave_Ferguson: #lrnchat 2/2 And like unto it: be skeptical of filters: boss, grandboss, project manager, SME who don’t do that job any more.
9:23:57 pm tgrevatt: @moehlert lol, I thought you were refreshing to my warm weather cycling regime problems! #lrnchat
9:24:06 pm Mike_Fishman: i “Teach” everyday working with folks my junior. Fine line between mentoring and teaching. – I also train BIG groups on technology #lrnchat
9:24:31 pm BradnDeedo: There is teaching and then there is learning. Learning comes with application and practice. #lrnchat
9:24:47 pm marciamarcia: Help build neural pathways. It’s my job as an educator, a learner, a parent, and a citizen. #lrnchat
9:24:49 pm tgrevatt: doh – referring not refreshing, brainfreeze #lrnchat
9:25:24 pm hjarche: @tgrevatt did I read “cycling”? I’m off on a tangent! #lrnchat
9:25:27 pm Mike_Fishman: “geeks” resist formal training – how do you reach them? #lrnchat
9:25:48 pm shantarohse: @marciamarcia Help build neural pathways? Please say more! #lrnchat
9:26:10 pm jerridkruse: #lrnchat @dtitle yes, cause learning is first and foremost emotional!
9:26:11 pm BradnDeedo: @Mike_Fishman Let them be the discoverers #lrnchat
9:26:22 pm tgrevatt: I find the big challenge, and reward of teaching is not saying too much and letting the students develop their own approaches. #lrnchat
9:26:22 pm Dave_Ferguson: @Mike_Fishman Doesn’t have to be formal. Prolly has to have structure, depth. Or instant relevance. #lrnchat
9:26:27 pm marciamarcia: Training astronauts is quite different from training cashiers – some people used to HUGE amounts of information. via @hjarche #lrnchat
9:26:36 pm dtitle: mentoring is showing which fork to take in the road… teaching is where do you want to go before you start down the road #lrnchat
9:26:39 pm hjarche: @marciamarcia looking at communication paths in an org may be the first step to good learning design, IMO #lrnchat
9:26:47 pm row4it: RT @marciamarcia: Help build neural pathways. It’s my job as an educator, a learner, a parent, and a citizen. #lrnchat I like this!!
9:27:13 pm roninchef: @Mike_Fishman Put it in their path with little or no instruction at first. #lrnchat
9:27:20 pm gminks: @Mike_Fishman geeks love formal training if you do it right. Esp if labs are involved #lrnchat
9:27:28 pm Mike_Fishman: RT @BradnDeedo: @Mike_Fishman Let them be the discoverers #lrnchat <that burns the neural pathway #lrnchat
9:31:00 pm marciamarcia: @shantarohse Will point you to more on neural paths offchat. Could go on for a while. A favorite topic. #lrnchat
9:31:18 pm Dave_Ferguson: @gminks #lrnchat Only marketing (and bored middle managers) like marketing slides.
9:31:20 pm roninchef: @gminks Who likes marketing slides? Put what ever it is in their laps for an hour. then tell ’em what it is. #lrnchat
9:31:28 pm shantarohse: @marciamarcia Of course in 140 chars! Always in 140 chars. Constraints! #lrnchat
9:31:35 pm Mike_Fishman: @gminks this girl knows her stuff HATE marketing slides – LOVE hands on stuff – #lrnchat
9:31:54 pm lrnchat: Remember, if you have something you want to ask these amazing tweeple, send them my way. #lrnchat
9:32:02 pm BradnDeedo: Time to fly – Thanks all for your abundant collective wisdom. #lrnchat
9:32:02 pm tgrevatt: I had interesting experience teaching technician vs BS level students in Physics – tech level much more hands on and dive-in #lrnchat
9:32:16 pm gminks: @Mike_Fishman you know the group I support right now don’t you? GEEKIEST set of people I have ever written for #lrnchat
9:32:35 pm dtitle: yes tangents are good, but teacher must make the tangent relevant to the learning arc to make even more solid connections #lrnchat
9:32:44 pm lrnchat: @BradnDeedo Thanks for joining us. Pls come back next week and tell yur friends. #lrnchat
9:33:13 pm gminks: @dwilkinsnh geeks may be great a self starting, but usually it is what *they* want – it may not relate back to their job duties #lrnchat
9:33:30 pm marciamarcia: @dtitle That darn scaffolding again. Here here! #lrnchat
9:34:04 pm gminks: @dtitle very good point! #lrnchat
9:34:13 pm tgrevatt: @dtitle Jeesh, how I wish that was there for my undergrad – no-one told is why stuff was cool at the time – relevancy helps so much #lrnchat
9:34:48 pm Mike_Fishman: @gminks Actually I have no clue what you do – but we can take that offline – typically R&D and internal training != #lrnchat
9:35:40 pm Mike_Fishman: BTW – who started this GEEK theme anyway? #lrnchat
9:35:41 pm carolwhit: @gminks agreed that geeks go out on their own, but often not for what you want them to learn! #lrnchat
9:35:59 pm lrnchat: Ready for a tangent? #lrnchat
9:36:36 pm planetrussell: @marciamarcia Really enjoying inspiring #lrnchat exchange. Will schedule time next week to dedicate, participate.
9:36:47 pm moehlert: @lrnchat #lrnchat Bring the tangent! #lrnchat
9:36:53 pm roninchef: @Mike_Fishman Yeah, I resemble that remark. #lrnchat
9:37:00 pm gminks: @Mike_Fishman I do post-GA training for Voyence & Smarts (nothing secret – I just know the secrets) heh #lrnchat
9:37:15 pm damonregan: @lrnchat Ready! #lrnchat
9:37:33 pm silverchirps: @carolwhit Has anyone realized that there is a huge gap between what you teach and what is being learned? #lrnchat
9:37:34 pm dwilkinsnh: @gminks – is that always bad? some of the best stuff I’ve ever seen has come from geeks who went off the reservation… #lrnchat
9:37:39 pm gminks: @lrnchat bring on the tangent!! #lrnchat
9:37:48 pm roninchef: @lrnchat Light that candle! #lrnchat
9:38:00 pm Mike_Fishman: This geek needs to get some food and other work done – THANK YOU folks – this was fun! – AND I learned a lot from great educators #lrnchat
9:38:01 pm lrnchat: Q3: Where do Virtual Worlds play in this conversation? Or is that too geeky? #lrnchat
9:38:20 pm dtitle: Biggest challenge to teacher is relevance, is different for every learner.. teacher must be fluid & ready to fill any container #Lrnchat
9:38:35 pm carolwhit: @silverchirps Absolutely. #lrnchat
9:38:39 pm marciamarcia: @planetrussell Look forward to you joining us whenever you can. We have plenty to learn from you, with you! #lrnchat
9:39:09 pm lrnchat: @Mike_Fishman Enjoy. Look forward to learning with you again. #lrnchat
9:39:19 pm gminks: @dwilkinsnh only if youre training for a specific task & they can’t tie what they *want* to learn back to what they *have* to learn #lrnchat
9:39:24 pm carolwhit: @silverchirps the trick is making it all come together in the end! #lrnchat
9:39:28 pm dtitle: if there is a gap between what is being taught & learned, then you are not making the bridges from you to your audience #lrnchat
9:39:58 pm gminks: @lrnchat virtual worlds are great if you have unlimited resources #lrnchat
9:40:19 pm moehlert: @lrnchat #lrnchat Been spending all week looking at use of VW’s for training and learning…course, I am geek #lrnchat
9:40:20 pm roninchef: @lrnchat Virt Worlds are a bridge to enhanced reality. Not a long term solution IMHO #lrnchat
9:40:31 pm damonregan: Are there still objectives with SoMe and VW? #lrnchat
9:40:37 pm silverchirps: @dtitle And still feel good about self even if you could not teach all what you intended. #lrnchat
9:40:44 pm tgrevatt: re Q3 I haven’t managed to have a powerful personal virtual world experience yet, still looking for that killer moment #lrnchat
9:40:53 pm moehlert: @gminks #lrnchat What is your guess on what it would cost to get started in a VW? #lrnchat
9:41:17 pm KoreenOlbrish: whoa, i’ve done nothing but investigate VWs for learning for the last year. unlimited potential but no killer app yet. #lrnchat
9:41:25 pm dwilkinsnh: Virtual Worlds? Too geeky for 95% of our client base; for most, blogs & wikis are just becoming accepted – flying penises less so #lrnchat
9:41:31 pm Dave_Ferguson: @gminks #lrnchat “If we had worlds enough, and time…?”
9:41:40 pm moehlert: @damonregan #lrnchat Are there objectives with an LMS? Authoring tool? These are tools and the secret is how we use them.. #lrnchat
9:41:45 pm dtitle: @silverchirps agree that is a must, failure is part of success… we must live with that, embrace that #lrnchat
9:41:53 pm tgrevatt: Don’t VWs need to be melded with some of the gaming principles to be powerful? #lrnchat
9:41:54 pm gminks: @moehlert not sure. I think for what I do for training, it would be hard to maintain virtual objects. #lrnchat
9:42:01 pm marciamarcia: @damonregan If not formal objectives, then there ought to be aims, directions… And purpose. #lrnchat
9:42:06 pm silverchirps: @carolwhit Yes. My favorite approach is to find out what the learner already knows. Then I modify my teaching to close the gap. #lrnchat
9:42:47 pm dwilkinsnh: @gminks well said on the geek thing #lrnchat
9:43:10 pm gminks: @Dave_Ferguson time. #lrnchat
9:43:20 pm row4it: Participated in first SL conference a few weeks ago…different, engaging, and social…while learning all good was Gov folks too! #lrnchat
9:43:21 pm dtitle: virtual worlds can distract from learning experience, like playing with a new laptop during a conference. Must practice first #lrnchat
9:43:26 pm carolwhit: @silverchirps That’s an excellent approach, but much harder to do if you’re dealing with online learning. #lrnchat
9:43:28 pm marciamarcia: @moehlert So help us bridge here. What’s a great use-case for Virtual worlds (coming back around and all…) #lrnchat
9:43:35 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Why Virtual Worlds Can Matter http://www.johnseelybrown.com/needvirtualworlds.pdf #lrnchat
9:43:36 pm JeffLowe: Immersive Worlds enable “face-2-face” interactions despite geographic dispersion #lrnchat
9:43:38 pm Dave_Ferguson: #lrnchat VW as VW = city as a city. You have to have a reason / goal / purpose. Can be done, but it’s not Hamburger Helper.
9:43:48 pm tgrevatt: @KoreenOlbrish I agree, I’m still waiting for that killer app #lrnchat
9:43:52 pm gminks: @dwilkinsnh well said with the flying …well you know what you said. 🙂 #lrnchat
9:44:36 pm tgrevatt: @JeffLowe but so does Skype with a real person not avatar #lrnchat
9:44:39 pm dtitle: If virtual world has same comfort level as regular world, then you have the chance for killer experience #lrnchat
9:44:42 pm gminks: I think sales training may be a good use case for VW #lrnchat
9:44:47 pm marciamarcia: Immersive Worlds enable “face-2-face” interactions despite geographic dispersion. via @JeffLowe #lrnchat
9:44:55 pm kairyl: i remember messing with some VRML editors back in ~1997. It was cool, but still think it’s too impractical for business #lrnchat
9:44:56 pm roninchef: As a gamer I haven’t seen any VW training that has sold me on the idea. #lrnchat
9:45:25 pm KoreenOlbrish: there’s a big gap in the perception of virtual worlds & the reality. There are only flying penises in SL. There are 100+ vws #lrnchat
9:45:34 pm tgrevatt: @gminks but would you then need trained ‘actors’ to interact. NLG could really help. Otherwise you’re in a sim anyway #lrnchat
9:45:34 pm silverchirps: @carolwhit I do not teach online. How is it different online? #lrnchat
9:45:57 pm JeffLowe: Saw several applications of Immersive Tech to allow learners to experience being “the other” in diversity trainings #lrnchat
9:46:05 pm gminks: the coolest thing I’ve seen in SL: I have a house on Broadway Isle, a producer owns it, he previews music from off-Broadway shows #lrnchat
9:46:09 pm KoreenOlbrish: @roninchef the VW space has been dominated by the tech companies to this point. Need more learning peeps to develop effective lrng #lrnchat
9:46:11 pm moehlert: #lrnchat liked the idea of using VWs to create ‘place bound’ knowledge…VW class gathers wisdom of every class that passes thru… #lrnchat
9:46:13 pm damonregan: @moehlert @marciamarcia good to hear. @moehlert thanks for the jsb link #lrnchat
9:46:30 pm marciamarcia: Part of my issue w/ VW is that I’m just getting excited about seeing real peoples’ faces! #lrnchat
9:46:31 pm gminks: @tgrevatt why not have SME’s or trainers be the actors? IDK, that is the best use case I see #lrnchat
9:46:35 pm dtitle: AS a teacher I see poverty as the new distance between learners in schools, can’t be a “flat world” if some can’t access the door #lrnchat
9:46:49 pm moehlert: #lrnchat for some amazing insight into VW +learning, try #3DTLC #lrnchat
9:47:04 pm dwilkinsnh: 1/2 best cases for virtual worlds? When 3D matters: insurance adjusters for instance – model a car that’s been in an accident #lrnchat
9:47:23 pm tgrevatt: @gminks true for sure, but then you have still got big overhead – with a game you can drop that down #lrnchat
9:47:33 pm Dave_Ferguson: #lrnchat My VW aha: voice-chat French in Second Life w/ native speakers. Took time to find ’em. En forgeant, on devient forgeron. (hashtag)
9:47:32 pm damonregan: I felt lost in SL today #lrnchat
9:47:33 pm carolwhit: @silverchirps Online (synchronous, like webinar), similar to face2face; online (asynchronous) means you have to know audience well #lrnchat
9:47:33 pm gminks: @moehlert how does a VW gather wisdom? #lrnchat
9:47:54 pm KoreenOlbrish: @gminks sales trng is a great topic for VWs–also process improvement, leadership training, comm skills, proj mgmt…2 name a few #lrnchat
9:48:11 pm dwilkinsnh: 2/2 adjusters can “walk around” the car & assess damage: far less costly than wrecking real cars & can do multiple scenarios cheap #lrnchat
9:48:19 pm JeffLowe: @tgrevatt skype experiences lack a spacial sense of presence…engages more portions of the mind thereby increasing engagement #lrnchat
9:48:19 pm marciamarcia: @moehlert So you’re saying we’re at early stage. Each group learning more? Do we need new design models, new approaches to dvlpmnt? #lrnchat
9:48:22 pm KoreenOlbrish: @damonregan IMHO, SL is not a good platform for learning–there are LOTS of others! #lrnchat
9:48:45 pm damonregan: @KoreenOlbrish what are the more learning oriented VWs if SL isn’t it? #lrnchat
9:49:08 pm dwilkinsnh: Ditto for home insurance adjusters; ditto of NSTB investigators, etc… #lrnchat
9:49:15 pm gminks: @marciamarcia I would say if there was an easier way to develop objects, it would be easier to develop learning events #lrnchat
9:49:25 pm kairyl: Good example. But 3D modeling is different that stuff like ‘Second Life’ worlds #lrnchat
9:49:30 pm ThomasStone: Exactly Dave… when 3D matters, then VW can be good solution. And another reason is safety contexts (novice medical learning). #lrnchat
9:49:49 pm KoreenOlbrish: @damonregan some options: OpenSim, Multiverse, Protosphere, Active Worlds–its all about designing the experience tho #lrnchat
9:50:00 pm roninchef: @JeffLowe I must fall into that camp. I have found myself to be more at ease on skype than a VW. #lrnchat
9:50:04 pm moehlert: @marciamarcia #lrnchat oh boy do we! We are like kids w/ lasers. #lrnchat
9:50:15 pm shantarohse: Is anyone familiar with disaster training case in SL, with different weather condition, innocent bystanders? #lrnchat
9:50:26 pm marciamarcia: Hmm. Would someone explain diff between sims (often used well for ed) and VWs? I see them being interchanged here. That OK? #lrnchat
9:50:31 pm dtitle: only way to gather wisdom is 2 apply your knowledge..interactions w/others gives you channels for applications you may not consider #lrnchat
9:50:35 pm CeydaAM: wikipedia says that Edward Castronova called VWs “synthetic worlds” – I agree, VW space is just not natural #lrnchat
9:50:55 pm tgrevatt: @ThomasStone Isn’t the problem that VWs are unstructured, all the apps here are well served by ILS/ILE etc – very blurred overlap #lrnchat
9:51:00 pm Dave_Ferguson: RT @Wendy: awesome feeling…not really knowing what ur doing, feeling like whatever it is …is exactly what u should be doing #lrnchat
9:51:05 pm john__: @dtitle Your thoughts remind me of Aristotle: The educated differ from the uneducated as much as the living from the dead #lrnchat
9:51:09 pm ThomasStone: For many VW learning scenarios, having pre-programmed NPCs would be important I think. #lrnchat
9:51:11 pm KoreenOlbrish: @shantarohse there’s a good flood response sim done in the UK–I’ll look for the link! #lrnchat
9:51:16 pm row4it: @kairyl Share the differences, please #lrnchat
9:51:23 pm moehlert: #lrnchat One of most compelling uses of VWs from this week – diversity training. Actually walking in someone else’s shoes… #lrnchat
9:51:26 pm cammybean: Has anyone experimented with that VW development tool from the UK (Cas* Lrng)? #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:51:31 pm silverchirps: @carolwhit I see. With asynchronous you need to be more structured. Especially, when part of a formal training program. #lrnchat
9:51:51 pm dtitle: sims you control externaly, VW you are immersed #lrnchat
9:52:05 pm tonykarrer: Sorry I was not able to join for #lrnchat this evening – looks like it was an interesting conversation
9:52:05 pm Dave_Ferguson: @shantarohse #lrnchat I saw demo of trauma-room training (initial diagnosis/treatment) in SecondLife; instr/expert ran ‘victim’ avatar
9:52:17 pm gminks: @ThomasStone What is NPC? #lrnchat
9:52:28 pm moehlert: @CeydaAM #lrnchat Is Twitter “natural”? 🙂 #lrnchat
9:52:33 pm dwilkinsnh: I think @gminks hit it on the head; lot of work to build wrecked cars, natural disasters, medical… if it were easy? More use #lrnchat
9:52:49 pm marciamarcia: @dtitle Putting knowledge to use gives you new channels for application and a wider reference set. #lrnchat
9:52:54 pm moehlert: @gminks #lrnchat Non-player character …bot #lrnchat
9:52:55 pm damonregan: @KoreenOlbrish thanks for the options. Is there a design model for VW? #lrnchat
9:53:00 pm row4it: @moehlert Yea, on the diversity, I saw a FutureWork site regarding Diversity that was really good. #lrnchat
9:53:01 pm roninchef: @gminks Non player character. Any other folks play games? #lrnchat
9:53:09 pm ThomasStone: Agree Mark… Diversity training a good use case for VW as platform for learning. #lrnchat
9:53:15 pm lrnchat: Wow, time has flown! #lrnchat
9:53:24 pm gminks: @moehlert twitter is natural to me – but I like to talk. 🙂 #lrnchat
9:53:39 pm tgrevatt: Great discussion on games vs sims here http://www.nasaga.org/webx/.1ad53ba4 I think VW are places to put games/sims in #lrnchat
9:53:48 pm gminks: @roninchef should have known that — @brianrosenthal will be ashamed of me. LOL #lrnchat
9:53:57 pm carolwhit: @silverchirps You definitely need to know what will keep their interest and make sure your pacing is appropriate for the audience #lrnchat
9:54:28 pm dwilkinsnh: 1/2 Sims have multiple levels – simulating a damaged car by modeling not the same as other kinds of sim, but it can be done in SL #lrnchat
9:54:34 pm KoreenOlbrish: @damonregan there needs to be a design model–very few designers are working in VWs (but I’ve got lots of opinions on this) 🙂 #lrnchat
9:54:43 pm lrnchat: The last thing we do here is give everyone a chance to tell us what they’re working on and a chance to ask for assistance. #lrnchat
9:54:54 pm moehlert: @gminks #lrnchat I hear ya. I like to walk and talk at the same time. 😉 #lrnchat
9:55:06 pm gminks: RT @tgrevatt Great discussion on games vs sims here http://www.nasaga.org/webx/.1ad53ba4 #lrnchat
9:55:07 pm dwilkinsnh: 2/2 and it provides an opportunity to review model as a class and individually to both learn and reinforce learning #lrnchat
9:55:07 pm tonykarrer: Does anyone have experience creating programmed NPCs in VWs? I want a Plymouth Plantation experience online. #lrnchat
9:55:16 pm KoreenOlbrish: @shantarohse oops, flood scenario wasn’t SL–its a serious game: http://www.seriousgamesinstitute.co.uk/research/case-studies.aspx? #lrnchat
9:55:38 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Brilliant chat! #lrnchat
9:55:54 pm KoreenOlbrish: @tonykarrer check out Active Worlds–they have pretty simple bot programming #lrnchat
9:55:57 pm tgrevatt: @KoreenOlbrish hehe, easily done #lrnchat
9:56:04 pm row4it: Would appreciate leads, links etc. on creating SN policies, esp. in local gov. #lrnchat
9:56:10 pm tonykarrer: @gminks – I enjoyed the real-time conversation on #learntrends yesterday. I don’t feel twitter is as good. concall + twitter? #lrnchat
9:56:14 pm shantarohse: @KoreenOlbrish @Dave_Ferguson Thank you for the leads! #lrnchat
9:56:22 pm dtitle: @marciamarcia yes new reference sets make you see how to use knowledge :that is the underlying basis for brainstorming, c’est non? #lrnchat
9:56:27 pm gminks: I am working on finals. I am sure no one wants to help with that. 🙂 #lrnchat
9:56:32 pm lrnchat: No requirement to end now either. If you need to dash, tho, please reintroduce yourself and tell us if there’s a way we can help u. #lrnchat
9:57:01 pm cammybean: @tonykarrer But I think more people are actually ‘talking’ here then on conference call? #lrnchat
9:57:17 pm dwilkinsnh: Great idea from this chat? A Google Earth-based Disaster Sim Engine. That would be cool. #lrnchat
9:57:23 pm tgrevatt: @tonykarrer Conf call is scary to try to get the tech to work correctly, and a bit more intimidating than twitter #lrnchat
9:57:25 pm shantarohse: @row4it I have seen quite a few tweets about this recently. Perhaps a twitter search? #lrnchat
9:57:35 pm gminks: @tonykarrer I enjoyed that too. I am missing the voices, so maybe. Or Centra/Elluminate + Twitter. #lrnchat
9:57:48 pm tonykarrer: @row4it – Corporate Social Media Policies – #lrnchat – not quite local government http://bit.ly/SEOqY
9:57:57 pm tgrevatt: @gminks Good luck! #lrnchat
9:57:59 pm marciamarcia: @dtitle It’s one of the many things that makes these chats so enjoyable. Thank you for the wide thinking. #lrnchat
9:58:01 pm damonregan: @cammybean yes, that is my sense too — is that just because it is “new”? #lrnchat
9:58:12 pm gminks: @dwilkinsnh the I-95 diaster agency did that sort of training in SL (I think) #lrnchat
9:58:13 pm moehlert: @tonykarrer #lrnchat @cammybean is right..so much more going on here than conf call – plus I’d need totally diff environ on my end #lrnchat
9:58:28 pm ThomasStone: I agree with CammyBean… far more good chatter on Tweet-Chat than a conf. call. #lrnchat
9:58:31 pm tgrevatt: @dwilkinsnh Bloody good idea – we need to be able to mash-up the stuff already out there #lrnchat
9:58:41 pm cammybean: @damonregan It’s less scary to type something than to speak out loud. #lrnchat
9:59:19 pm Dave_Ferguson: #lrnchat Conf call is sequential one-to-many. Not bad, prone to abuse.
9:59:20 pm tonykarrer: Interesting to see that people feel that there’s more convo when you avoid a voice channel in addition to a text channel? #lrnchat
9:59:29 pm dtitle: just wish I could type w/more than 2 fingers! almost a disability as the tweets fly by here #lrnchat
9:59:42 pm damonregan: can a theme analysis be done on a chat like this to make this useful for others? or is this useful as a raw record? #lrnchat
9:59:43 pm carolwhit: @cammybean plus, tweetchat is different culture (less structure) than conf call #lrnchat
10:00:07 pm roninchef: Wrapping up an New Emp Desktop CBT. Lining up 2 big app introductions and a video of how we move things through our org. #lrnchat
10:00:11 pm silverchirps: Thanks for the interesting conversation. My first tweetchat experience. See you again. #lrnchat
10:00:15 pm ThomasStone: Plus can reflect (quickly) before hitting send button… one reason actual voice chatting is intimidating for some. #lrnchat
10:00:17 pm cammybean: Mash up sounds good. On conf call, noone wants to interrupt the moderator. Here, that’s all we do… #lrnchat
10:00:19 pm tonykarrer: Does anyone else have this deja vu feeling of BBS experience? #lrnchat
10:00:23 pm lrnchat: For those of you who have missed all the chatter going on here, we’ll have a real transcript this week. Even I learn (eventually)! #lrnchat
10:00:23 pm dwilkinsnh: Airforce Social Media policy – no quite SL but in that direction http://twurl.nl/7s8i58 #lrnchat
10:00:43 pm row4it: @tonykarrer thanks will check it out….will need to bridge to local gov. #lrnchat
10:00:43 pm gminks: @carolwhit the culture is true, you could see that in learntrend I think. Diff culture in the chat box/twitter #lrnchat
10:00:55 pm carolwhit: @tonykarrer have been on webinars where chat is used extensively and voice very little, seems to be more comfort there #lrnchat
10:01:01 pm cammybean: TweetChat beats the iPod hands down for trying to follow (and participate) in this thing! #lrnchat
10:01:07 pm gminks: I also did some camtasias, trying to show this to folks who won’t try it #lrnchat
10:01:15 pm tgrevatt: @tonykarrer lol, too young 😉 #lrnchat
10:01:19 pm dtitle: can’t type over someone or shout them down & can scroll back with tweets, but you can talk over or miss things in conf. call #lrnchat
10:01:21 pm Dave_Ferguson: @lrnchat #lrnchat The strongest memory is weaker than the palest ink.
10:01:34 pm cammybean: @tonykarrer BBS? #lrnchat
10:01:53 pm dwilkinsnh: @cammybean Not sure we’re interrupting as having multiple time-shifted conversations (while watching time-shifted TV in my case) #lrnchat
10:02:08 pm damonregan: @tonykarrer wow… exactly! BBS grouped somewhat like minded it seems. Internet made one big public. Are we grouping again? #lrnchat
10:02:23 pm cammybean: #learntrends had more a feeling of listen and learn from the experts. #lrnchat
10:02:32 pm ThomasStone: Advice for introducing colleagues to Twitter/Y*mmer? That is what I’m working on. Execs, then all. #lrnchat
10:02:36 pm kairyl: Http://tinyurl.com/coga7s is a google-earth disaster modeling tool #lrnchat
10:03:07 pm damonregan: @cammybean bulletin board system (BBS) #lrnchat
10:03:08 pm moehlert: @gminks #lrnchat Cool. Check out ScreenToaster as well. Browser-based screen capture w/ audio #lrnchat
10:03:09 pm carolwhit: @cammybean That’s it exactly. People don’t feel their voice is as important as the presenter #lrnchat
10:03:14 pm marciamarcia: Not wanting to wade deep in learning styles pit here, can’t but think some learn best when vocalizing and hearing. #lrnchat
10:03:34 pm cammybean: @dwilkinsnh Or putting children to bed (in my case) #lrnchat
10:03:40 pm dtitle: Thanks all, great flow with many meanderings ! #lrnchat
10:04:23 pm roninchef: @gminks Did you get the whole chat? Love to hear what the file size is on that. #lrnchat
10:04:44 pm cammybean: @damonregan Ah, yes. BBS. That was before I became a geek. #lrnchat
10:05:03 pm tgrevatt: Good night all, that was fun. Time to watch BBC Top Gear. Good luck on challenges this week. #lrnchat
10:05:23 pm dwilkinsnh: @thomasstone Start with colleagues who would benefit, build around execs, and then win by default (that’s what I did ; ) #lrnchat
10:05:27 pm lrnchat: Our official time tonight has ended. Please join us again next week. Perhaps some can organize a call too. Great learning with you! #lrnchat
10:05:32 pm gminks: @roninchef oh no! I got little snippets – mostly showed the setup #lrnchat
10:05:50 pm damonregan: Thanks all! #lrnchat
10:05:50 pm Dave_Ferguson: @tonykarrer #lrnchat Do an analysis of those conf calls; see how air time is distributed. Compare w/ this.
10:05:53 pm tonykarrer: I’m working on improving eLearning Learning http://bit.ly/17KkQu and it’s sibling topic hubs – fun stuff launching in May #lrnchat
10:06:09 pm dwilkinsnh: @kairyl well, so much for my brilliant idea… lol — cool though that somebody already did it #lrnchat
10:06:43 pm gminks: @lrnchat thanks for hosting again! It was great! #lrnchat
10:06:48 pm cammybean: I’m just getting rolling here and now it’s done. Ah well. Thanks #lrnchat
10:07:05 pm lrnchat: Please remember to add yourself to https://lrnchat.wordpress.com/whos-who/ #lrnchat
10:07:09 pm roninchef: @gminks whew! you had me worried there for a sec or really impressed with the rig you must have to record something like this. #lrnchat
10:07:28 pm dwilkinsnh: Great stuff – this is like a live version of @slqotd — very cool. #lrnchat
10:08:13 pm carolwhit: @lrnchat Thanks for a very fast, but great evening chat! #lrnchat