Transcript – January 26, 2017: Giving and Receiving Advice

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This Week’s Questions

  • How do you determine if someone is a good at giving advice?
  • Why would someone be reluctant to ask for advice? Reluctant to give advice?
  • What are some key things you consider when you give advice?
  • When you give advice do you follow up to see if your advice was taken and was helpful?
  • How has giving or receiving advice impacted your learning?
Please excuse the format of this week’s transcript as our typical capturing method experienced an error.
lrnchat    Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
weisblatt    Excuse the swirl of ideas that is  #lrnchat
lrnchat    Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat
write2tg    Hello there @lrnchat and friends!  #lrnchat
tomspiglanin      Replying to @weisblatt
JD_Dillon    My advice to you … Join #lrnchat right now!
JaneBozarth      Replying to @weisblatt
willconstantine    Hi everyone! I’m resurrected! Sometimes its a good idea to take a break from social media! #lrnchat
weisblatt    Hi Will. Hi Taruna. Hey Tom. #lrnchat
tomspiglanin    Well look at me
weisblatt       Replying to @JaneBozarth @weisblatt
MattGuyan    Hi everyone
rabbitoreg    Hi everyone and others! Zsolt fomr Philly escaping the GOP retreat. #lrnchat
lodtrain    Popping into  #lrnchat for a bit – global instructional designer. Love all things training
tomspiglanin    Playing #geoguessr where am I?  #lrnchat pic.twitter.com/Qrzbu6yBnx
weisblatt    Qintro) Adam Weisblatt explorer of learning possibilities. Connecticut #lrnchat
JaneBozarth      Replying to @tomspiglanin
JD_Dillon    Howdy #lrnchat! JD joining from Orlando
urbie    Good evening #lrnchat I’m urbie
willconstantine    Will Constantine
JaneBozarth    Jane
write2tg    Taruna Goel from Vancouver BC! I am all about learning and performance and swim in provincial red seal trade exams 🙂 #lrnchat
willconstantine      Replying to @weisblatt
spotlessmind82    Greetings from Chicago! It’s been a fast and furious two weeks. Glad I got home in time for #lrnchat!
write2tg      Replying to @JaneBozarth
lrnchat    Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today
write2tg      Replying to @lrnchat
JaneBozarth      Replying to @weisblatt
tomspiglanin    Tom Spiglanin
dawnjmahoney    I was looking forward to #LrnChat tonight! Let’s all sing HAPPY BIRTHDAY to @JaneBozarth! Anna one
DrJessupS    Hi #lrnchat
weisblatt    A0) I learned that people are willing to join you somewhere new if you take them on the journey with you. #lrnchat
write2tg      Replying to @weisblatt
tomspiglanin    A0) lesson yesterday that receiving advice does require listening. Timely for this topic  #lrnchat
spotlessmind82    A0) I learned that my 4 week trainig development timeline has been shortened to 8 business days!? #lrnchat
willconstantine    Q0) I learned that trusting life’s cadence will keep you afloat #lrnchat
weisblatt    Hi Dawn
JD_Dillon    Hmmmmmmmm … Bot? Horrific name + profile? Hmmmmmm … #lrnchat
lodtrain    Q0 learned more about micro training such as short elearning with faciltator led debrief cut class module by 2 hrs #lrnchat
write2tg    A0) This week
spotlessmind82    Happy Birthday
rabbitoreg    A0) Learned that words matter.  #lrnchat
write2tg      Replying to @write2tg
JD_Dillon    It. Is. Jane’s. BIRTHDAY!!!! #lrnchat pic.twitter.com/fdRSshkGXl
JaneBozarth      Replying to @spotlessmind82
weisblatt      Replying to @write2tg
DrJessupS    A0) Question feedback that makes sense to you doesn’t always make sense to learners. #lrnchat
JaneBozarth      Replying to @dawnjmahoney
Quinnovator    Dropping in late: Clark Quinn
urbie    #lrnchat A0 Learned this week.. i should consider getting a 3D printer. #DJI doesn’t sell many of my #MavicPro’s consumables. 2 make my own.
mattsajn      Replying to @lrnchat
MattGuyan    A0. I learned that it’s easier to buy lamingtons than make them from scratch… #lrnchat https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamington
dawnjmahoney      Replying to @JaneBozarth
lrnchat    Q1.) How do you determine if someone is a good at giving advice? #lrnchat
Quinnovator    Happy BDay Dr @JaneBozarth!  Hope you have a great one!  #lrnchat
willconstantine      Replying to @Quinnovator
write2tg      Replying to @write2tg
Quinnovator    a0) learning all too much about knees and arthroscopic surgery 😦 #lrnchat
rabbitoreg    I learned how to play happy birthday on a uke just for you
dawnjmahoney      Replying to @MattGuyan
lodtrain    Q1 good advice giver = someone you respect for their skills/ideas #lrnchat
weisblatt    A1) If they are perpetually curious themselves. #lrnchat
write2tg      Replying to @Quinnovator
JD_Dillon    A1) Past evidence of success
dawnjmahoney    A1) Guess defining “”good”” would come first #lrnchat
Quinnovator    a1) if it’s listened to and put into practice?  (is this a trick question? 🙂 #lrnchat https://twitter.com/lrnchat/status/824793621392138241 …  QUOTE TWEET                      lrnchat @lrnchat                          Q1.) How do you determine if someone is a good at giving advice? #lrnchat
Quinnovator      Replying to @willconstantine
Quinnovator      Replying to @write2tg
weisblatt    A1) Some one good at giving advice is willing to show you their learning process. #lrnchat
kregerck    Christine Kreger
jyoti__gupta    a0) I learned you should check with like.. 5 … 10 … dealerships before you negotiate a car price. #lrnchat
rabbitoreg    A1) I ask multiple people and see if there’s a pattern. #lrnchat
JaneBozarth      Replying to @rabbitoreg
TWardLearning    A1) Do they practice what they preach? Do they have your best interest in mind? #lrnchat
mattsajn    A0 #lrnchat – I learned about the weird story of Dr.Brinkley
JaneBozarth        Replying to @lodtrain @spotlessmind82 @dawnjmahoney
tomspiglanin    A1) good advice? 1
write2tg    A1) Someone who is good at giving advice would never say so! 🙂  #lrnchat
kelly_smith01    Here is the Bday cake for @JaneBozarth be patient everyone will get a piece #lrnchat pic.twitter.com/r5sG3WzjXs
dawnjmahoney    A1) Can’t say I’ve always gone w/one w/most proven experience
spotlessmind82    A1) To determine if someone is good at giving advice
JaneBozarth    Ok that wins. #lrnchat https://twitter.com/kelly_smith01/status/824794341495410690 …  QUOTE TWEET
Quinnovator    a1) is their advice consonant with their behavior
DrJessupS    A1) Presentation and empathy are important. Don’t talk down to me or lecture me. #lrnchat
write2tg    A1) Someone who is good at giving advice walks the talk.  #lrnchat
jyoti__gupta    a1) If their advice works
dawnjmahoney    @Kelly_Smith01 Now she’ll want this every year!  #lrnchat
tomspiglanin    A1) example: @JD_Dillon suggests  #lrnchat from mobile phone. Done.
JaneBozarth      Replying to @Quinnovator
JD_Dillon    A1) They don’t start advice with “”you know in my day …”” #lrnchat
JaneBozarth      Replying to @write2tg
weisblatt    A1) If their advice works. Sometimes you have to suspend judgement at first if you want to be open to knowledge. #lrnchat
MattGuyan    A1 If it comes from their own  experience
chriscola    Coming in to #lrnchat 2 say Happy Bday @JaneBozarth Gotta run back 2 #GreysAnatomy…have fun all!
JaneBozarth      Replying to @rabbitoreg
JD_Dillon    A1) I probably wouldn’t ask them otherwise … #lrnchat
TWardLearning    A1) They truly listen and understand before offering advice #lrnchat
write2tg    A2) Trust and respect is important before giving and receiving advice #lrnchat
weisblatt      Replying to @JD_Dillon
willconstantine    Q1) If your instinct tells you that what they’re advising sits well with you
rabbitoreg    A1) A piece of advice might be good. But painful. #lrnchat
write2tg      Replying to @rabbitoreg
weisblatt    A1) They show you the scars from when they were wrong. #lrnchat
JD_Dillon    A1) None of the “”I’m just looking out for your best interests …”” #lrnchat
dawnjmahoney    A1) What @Willconstantine said/The gut and instinct matter! #lrnchat
rabbitoreg    A1) Some of the best advisors never gave any advice. Just asked questions. #lrnchat
tomspiglanin    A1) note good advice givers also tend to explain benefit to you
JD_Dillon    A1) Theyre known for building bridges
dawnjmahoney    A1) Advice offered in “”take it if you want to”” vein #lrnchat
kregerck    And as a special treat
FLRichter    Hi #lrnchat Im a school counselor wanting to send a message to DC-make education a priority-join @March4Edu Lets Stand together 4 betterpic.twitter.com/0VVpJVN29W
urbie    #lrnchat A1 If their advice assuages the thing that got me to seek advice then it’s worth a shot..
weisblatt    A1) Their advice challenges your assumptions. #lrnchat
Quinnovator    a1) when it’s couched from experience: €œI was <situation>
willconstantine    Q1) The selection of the source of advice is a culmination of trust
MattGuyan    A1 the advice is offered as a suggestion and not a request #lrnchat
write2tg    A1) I like advice that comes with stories.  #lrnchat
lrnchat    Q2.) Why would someone be reluctant to ask for advice? Reluctant to give advice?  #lrnchat
weisblatt      Replying to @rabbitoreg
JaneBozarth      Replying to @kuriousmind
kregerck    A0) Librarians are passionate fighters against “”alternative facts!”” #lrnchat https://twitter.com/lrnchat/status/824792598586019841 …  QUOTE TWEET                      lrnchat @lrnchat                          Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today
write2tg      Replying to @lrnchat
urbie    #lrnchat A1b Recommendations from others helps. If its an online source their tweets/posts can be a guide
weisblatt    A2) It’s hard to accept change. It’s hard to offer change. #lrnchat
lisadbudzinski    A1 Their track record
JD_Dillon    A2) Afraid to hear contrary opinion. Selfishness. Just pure don’t care. #lrnchat https://twitter.com/lrnchat/status/824795607185444865 …  QUOTE TWEET                      lrnchat @lrnchat                          Q2.) Why would someone be reluctant to ask for advice? Reluctant to give advice?  #lrnchat
Quinnovator    a2) afraid of consequences; it’s not safe. May be ignored
FLRichter    With 3.1 million TEACHERS in the US
JaneBozarth    A1 If they take their own advice #lrnchat
urbie    #lrnchat A2 Fear of appearing lacking.
kregerck    A1) They let you decide if you will follow it or not #lrnchat https://twitter.com/lrnchat/status/824793621392138241 …  QUOTE TWEET                      lrnchat @lrnchat                          Q1.) How do you determine if someone is a good at giving advice? #lrnchat
write2tg    A2) So many times
Quinnovator    a2) if you’re in the Miranda Organization (anything you say can and will be held against you) #lrnchat
willconstantine    Q2) Sometimes we know that the advice we give could send that person in the wrong direction #lrnchat
JaneBozarth    A1 If they listen before giving it
weisblatt    A2) If your current thinking worked you wouldn’t need advice
rabbitoreg    A2) Why not give? We all know ppl who keep asking advice but never take it. #lrnchat
spotlessmind82    A2) People are reluctant to ask for advice sometimes because they are afraid to admit they need help. #lrnchat
dawnjmahoney    A2) Previous experience–similar circumstances/might not be same person #lrnchat
JD_Dillon    A2) Ready. Shoot. Aim. Mentality. #lrnchat https://twitter.com/lrnchat/status/824795607185444865 …  QUOTE TWEET                      lrnchat @lrnchat                          Q2.) Why would someone be reluctant to ask for advice? Reluctant to give advice?  #lrnchat
jyoti__gupta    a2) To ask – cuz it’s viewed as a weakness; to give – cuz it’ll get used against you if it backfires #lrnchat
tomspiglanin    A2) reluctant to give advice? Inexperience with doing so. Unprepared for how to give it well. Learned over time #lrnchat
write2tg    A2) Asking for advice shows our vulnerability. It also takes courage and an ability to suspend disbelief.  #lrnchat
Quinnovator    a2) if it’s not safe to admit weakness
JD_Dillon    A2) “”Its not my job …”” #lrnchat
dawnjmahoney    A2) For me/Reluctant to give advice to those I in elevated roles or I feel have more experience/often flawed thinking #lrnchat
mattsajn    A2 – comfort level; more reluctant to ask advice from someone who you don’t see eye to eye with. #lrnchat
willconstantine    Q2) Asking for advice – trust level
Quinnovator    a2) also
rabbitoreg    A2) “”Are you testing me?”” “”Who sent you?”” #lrnchat
urbie    #lrnchat A2b Sometimes folk shy away from sharing advice if there’s a chance following it might not work out. Fear o’ #retribution
lodtrain    Q2 “”they think they have all the answers”” #lrnchat
tomspiglanin    A2) reluctant to ask advice? Sad. We all need advice no matter how experienced. #lrnchat
Quinnovator    a2) if the culture isn’t conducive… #lrnchat
write2tg    A2) Reluctance to give advice could come from lack of trust
sbruington    A2) Many are reluctant to ask for advice because of pride. €œIf I ask you
JD_Dillon    A2) “”What do you mean you don’t have all the answers? What good are you?”” #lrnchat
ShannonRenee    A1 Check out the folks they’ve given advice to and how they fared. #LrnChat
willconstantine      Replying to @Quinnovator
lodtrain    A2 they haven’t learned that advice xan be awesome and u can choose to accept or not #lrnchat
JaneBozarth    A2 Reluctant to give: Don’t want to be responsible for it #lrnchat
weisblatt    A2) People are under the mistaken idea that people are obligated to follow your advice. #lrnchat
tomspiglanin      Replying to @JaneBozarth
write2tg      Replying to @Quinnovator
sbruington    A2) There’s also a reluctance to ask for advice from someone you feel you’re always asking for €œstuff€ from. #lrnchat
Kimacus      Replying to @lrnchat
kregerck    A2) Afraid to look like they don’t know everything. Afraid to look like a know it all
write2tg      Replying to @JaneBozarth
write2tg      Replying to @weisblatt
tomspiglanin      Replying to @JaneBozarth
spotlessmind82      Replying to @JaneBozarth
ShannonRenee    A2 I’m reluctant to ask certain folks for advice b/c they suck at giving it. Folks I trust
weisblatt    A1) Sometimes I feel that there is no place for my advice in the chaos that people perpetuate. #lrnchat
learningdudes    That’s dedication! I’ve missed #lrnchat so much! It’s been *cough too long… https://twitter.com/tomspiglanin/status/824797131605176320 …  QUOTE TWEET                      Tom Spiglanin @tomspiglanin                      Replying to @JaneBozarth                           btw I was awake an hour in wait of #lrnchat 🙂
JaneBozarth      Replying to @write2tg
learningdudes    A3) Ironically
JaneBozarth      Replying to @tomspiglanin
ShannonRenee    Good advice givers are 1 in a 100 and great advice givers are 1 in a 1
dawnjmahoney    A2) Oh! “”accountability”” That is the word of the week
MattGuyan    A2 reluctant to ask – not sure how to
JD_Dillon    A3) Offer but don’t push. Focus on defined problems + areas of experience. #lrnchat https://twitter.com/lrnchat/status/824797244620754944 …  QUOTE TWEET                      lrnchat @lrnchat                          Q3.) How does someone establish a reputation for being a good advice giver?
kelly_smith01    A2) Some trust applying their knowledge but may not trust others applying their shared knowledge #lrnchat
FLRichter    TY @lisadbudzinski I figure we can either sit idly by; be apathetic like in the election or UNITE & make ED beter #lrnchat join @March4Edu
JD_Dillon    A3) Tweet literally everything you’re thinking. Just go for it. No filter. Huge rep builder. #lrnchat https://twitter.com/lrnchat/status/824797244620754944 …  QUOTE TWEET                      lrnchat @lrnchat                          Q3.) How does someone establish a reputation for being a good advice giver?
tomspiglanin    A2) when I was younger I listened a lot and thought I knew a lot. Rarely gave advice. Now I know that I know little
ShannonRenee    Clients pay for my expertise (aka advice). It’s up to them whether to follow it or not. #lrnchat
write2tg      Replying to @JaneBozarth
dawnjmahoney    So
learningdudes    A3) Credentials
weisblatt      Replying to @tomspiglanin
TWardLearning    A3) Solid track record
Quinnovator    a3) offering good advice? advising with context
MattGuyan    A3 Approachable
ShannonRenee    For clients
write2tg    A3) To establish a reputation of being a good advice giver
learningdudes    A3) Age. As we get older
JD_Dillon      Replying to @dawnjmahoney
ShannonRenee    For friends
willconstantine      Replying to @learningdudes
dawnjmahoney    A3) Are we supposed to “”give”” advice? Whenever? Or
spotlessmind82    A3) They listen!! And demonstrate empathy! #lrnchat
write2tg      Replying to @JD_Dillon
dawnjmahoney      Replying to @JD_Dillon
lodtrain    Q3 they are respected and you seek their advice
JffZllr    #lrnchat a) live the advice you give.
weisblatt    A3) They listen more than they talk #lrnchat
rabbitoreg    A3) Someone who can seperate System 1 and System 2 to provide the right kind of advice (rational or emotional) #lrnchat
tomspiglanin    A3) Reputation for giving good advice? Truly care
TWardLearning    A3) Can be honest and direct in a positive
ShannonRenee    A3 Reputations are built on past experience
urbie    #lrnchat A3a By being visible
jyoti__gupta    a3) Provide advice that can be substantiated with evidence #lrnchat
Quinnovator    a3) refrain from advising unless consequences too costly? #lrnchat
weisblatt    A3) A good advice giver doesn’t need you to take their advice. #lrnchat
dawnjmahoney    Can someone please RT Q3 (darn porn) #lrnchat
learningdudes    Well said
write2tg    A3) If I have some good advice that was beneficial
learningdudes      Replying to @dawnjmahoney
write2tg      Replying to @weisblatt
sbruington    …for @dawnjmahoney. 😉  #lrnchat https://twitter.com/lrnchat/status/824797244620754944 …  QUOTE TWEET                      lrnchat @lrnchat                          Q3.) How does someone establish a reputation for being a good advice giver?
JffZllr    #lrnchat a2) reluctant to ask bcz most want advice that aligns w what they r already thinking
LearnKotch    And so say all of us! #ozlearn #lrnchat #LT17ukhttps://twitter.com/jd_dillon/status/824788145673818113 …  QUOTE TWEET                      JD  ðŸ‘¨ðŸ»€ðŸ’» @JD_Dillon                          I’m tired of debunking myths and telling L&D what it’s doing wrong. Can we shift to talking about great ideas that have proven results?
JaneBozarth      Replying to @dawnjmahoney
lrnchat    Q4.) What are some key things you consider when you give advice? #lrnchat
dawnjmahoney      Replying to @learningdudes
VilmaBonilla    A3) Reputation is built on experience via referrals
urbie    #lrnchat https://twitter.com/lrnchat/status/824797244620754944 …  QUOTE TWEET                      lrnchat @lrnchat                          Q3.) How does someone establish a reputation for being a good advice giver?
willconstantine    Q3) I think that it’s experience
write2tg      Replying to @JaneBozarth
JaneBozarth       Replying to @learningdudes @dawnjmahoney
tomspiglanin    A3) and a good advice giver will still be there to help on failure #lrnchat https://twitter.com/write2tg/status/824799142723584000 …  QUOTE TWEET                      Taruna Goel @write2tg                      Replying to @weisblatt                           RT @weisblatt A3) A good advice giver doesn’t need you to take their advice. #lrnchat
weisblatt    A4) Most important: frame the advice in terms of what they are focused on. #lrnchat
learningdudes    A4) When giving advice
rabbitoreg    a4) It’s all about the other person
Quinnovator    a4) besides the WIIFM? 😉  Seriously: whether it’s useful
willconstantine    Q3) I think it also comes from what you experience and versatility of those experiences #lrnchat
JD_Dillon    A4) Understand the problem as best I can. Realize I may not be right person to give advice. Listen. Be specific. #lrnchat https://twitter.com/lrnchat/status/824799258532528129 …  QUOTE TWEET                      lrnchat @lrnchat                          Q4.) What are some key things you consider when you give advice? #lrnchat
urbie    #lrnchat A4a Resources. Do I have what following the advice requires? Motivation. Do I really want to follow-through on the advice?
lodtrain    Q4 key is to listen
kelly_smith01    Q3.) How does someone establish a reputation for being a good advice giver? #lrnchat
learningdudes    A4) Be prepared to have your advice both not listening to
urbie    #lrnchat A4b From the perspective of giving advice
ShannonRenee    Getting advice from my Mom. #lrnchat pic.twitter.com/plfdVwau3i
JffZllr    #lrnchat  a3) good advice is also well timed. Too early and may not be heeded.
weisblatt    A3) Is the person in a place where my advice would help? #lrnchat
JaneBozarth        Replying to @write2tg @dawnjmahoney @TweetChat
tomspiglanin    A4 I don’t much think about giving advice
willconstantine    Q4) I always listen first…ask questions…listen…then give advice with warnings around the potential variables #lrnchat
learningdudes       Replying to @JaneBozarth @dawnjmahoney
rabbitoreg    A4) Find out what real problem is. Often not what the advice is about. #lrnchat
spotlessmind82    A4) I consider my audience
TWardLearning    A4) What filters will the advice go thru en route? Are they ready to listen? #lrnchat
weisblatt    A4) Telling a story is better than telling the person what to do. #lrnchat
write2tg    A4) I consider listening – deeply
jyoti__gupta    a4) whether someone’s in a headspace to receive it; most people just want an empathetic ear  #lrnchat
kregerck    A4) What questions I can ask to fully understand the need. (A reference interview in libraryland)  And then listen #lrnchat https://twitter.com/lrnchat/status/824799258532528129 …  QUOTE TWEET                      lrnchat @lrnchat                          Q4.) What are some key things you consider when you give advice? #lrnchat
VilmaBonilla    A4) A key consideration when giving advice is knowing your audience. Being respectful to their needs and appropriate in delivery. #lrnchat
ShannonRenee    A4 If you give it
learningdudes    A4) Before giving advice
rabbitoreg    A4) Think “”What would Alexa say?”” #lrnchat
tomspiglanin    A4) advice received yesterday: “”Tom trust me you don’t want xxx and yyy if you do zzz.”” #hewasright #lrnchat
weisblatt      Replying to @ShannonRenee
JD_Dillon    A4) I prefer to give advice while standing on a pedestal of some type
ShannonRenee    A4 THINK before you open your mouth to give advice
write2tg    A4) I also realize that sometimes good advice doesn’t work because of different value systems.  #lrnchat
urbie    #lrnchat A4c The biggie tho: Are you ready for the fame
Quinnovator    a4) one point is to not offer what’s already been said; if it’s not unique
write2tg      Replying to @Quinnovator
ShannonRenee    A4 Don’t give any advice you wouldn’t take yourself. #lrnchat
MattGuyan    A4 that it’s appropriate for the person you’re giving it too #lrnchat
TWardLearning    A4) If possible
write2tg    A4) Before giving advice
FLRichter    #lrnchatA3 1st don’t give advice; LISTEN first; help ppl find solutions; they need to be invested in their solution & the outcome #lrnchat
weisblatt    A4) Can I give someone the logic and let them figure out the answer for themselves? #lrnchat
piercemr    Am late to the party… I’ll lurk for a bit to get caught up. Advice on best way to get caught up? 😉 #lrnchat
rabbitoreg    A4) Ask Why. Three times. #lrnchat
learningdudes    A4) If in a forum where others are giving advice
dawnjmahoney    #LrnChat Will likely have to stop using #TweetChat Ugly again!
write2tg      Replying to @TWardLearning
learningdudes      Replying to @piercemr
ShannonRenee    I’m thinking about my clients. They will hold me accountable–even for advice I didn’t give them LOL. #LrnChat https://twitter.com/weisblatt/status/824800373303029761 …  QUOTE TWEET                      Adam Weisblatt @weisblatt                      Replying to @ShannonRenee                           Are you sure? People hear what they want to hear. Can you really be accountable? #lrnchat
tomspiglanin      Replying to @Quinnovator
TWardLearning    Great to see you Matt! Advise you to dive right in 🙂 #lrnchat https://twitter.com/piercemr/status/824800738018734081 …  QUOTE TWEET                      Matt Pierce @piercemr                          Am late to the party… I’ll lurk for a bit to get caught up. Advice on best way to get caught up? 😉 #lrnchat
dawnjmahoney    A?) My head keeps going to what is the defn of “”good”” but also “”advice””/Spoonfeed the answers/Or provide resources for discovery? #lrnchat
JaneBozarth      Replying to @piercemr
JffZllr    #lrnchat a4 – I find giving good advice is helping the person work through and verbalize the problem… then finding own solution.
kregerck    A4) Follow up? Not to see if they took your advice
lrnchat    Q5.). When you give advice do you follow up to see if your advice was taken and was helpful? #lrnchat (99)
write2tg      Replying to @piercemr
spotlessmind82    People support what they create! #lrnchat https://twitter.com/FLRichter/status/824800684247773184 …  QUOTE TWEET                      Sean Richter @FLRichter                          #lrnchatA3 1st don’t give advice; LISTEN first; help ppl find solutions; they need to be invested in their solution & the outcome #lrnchat
learningdudes      Replying to @lrnchat
weisblatt    The Most Interesting Man In The World http://po.st/t4Y2yH  via @imgflip #lrnchat
Plock2009    A4) setting
JD_Dillon    A5) Depends … #lrnchat https://twitter.com/lrnchat/status/824801123664089093 …  QUOTE TWEET                      lrnchat @lrnchat                          Q5.). When you give advice do you follow up to see if your advice was taken and was helpful? #lrnchat (99)
dawnjmahoney    @pierceMr Wins! Master of the double entendre! #lrnchat
arunzpradhan    my first #lrnchat
Quinnovator    a5) usually no
JffZllr    #lrnchat a4 advice may also be specific to the person
JaneBozarth    Don’t mind giving it
lodtrain    Q5 with mgr she gives or asks advice and when we meet we review. Really rewarding #lrnchat
JD_Dillon       Replying to @learningdudes @lrnchat
weisblatt    A5) No. I ask them if there is any thing else I can do to help them. #lrnchat
urbie    #lrnchat A5a Usually not. Almost never. If I did that’d be more like mentoring wouldn’t it?
Quinnovator    agreed
rabbitoreg    A5) I would say yes of course. But I’ve learned through the Harvard AIT test that I’m biased. Really biased. #lrnchat
dawnjmahoney    A5) Think following back is rare. Matters muchly
spotlessmind82    A5) It depends… #trickquestion #lrnchat
JffZllr    #lrnchat a4 -is there such thing as alternate advice? 😉
willconstantine    Q5) Usually…I give advice to the people who I have good relationships with so I get the feedback #lrnchat
JaneBozarth      Replying to @arunzpradhan
weisblatt      Replying to @JffZllr
JD_Dillon    A5) Depends on the topic + relationship #lrnchat
jyoti__gupta    a5) if it’s convenient to do so
lisadbudzinski    A3 By word of mouth of the seekers of the advice that was spot on & helped they heeded the advice given #lrnchat https://twitter.com/lrnchat/status/824797244620754944 …  QUOTE TWEET                      lrnchat @lrnchat                          Q3.) How does someone establish a reputation for being a good advice giver?
arunzpradhan    Q5. Used to take it on but then found qte: You can help 1000 people
willconstantine    Q5) If I am hired for advisement then I see first hand whether the advice I give leads to an action and what the outcome is #lrnchat
write2tg    A5) After I give advice
tomspiglanin    A5) follow up on advice given? Honestly
FLRichter      Replying to @spotlessmind82
Quinnovator      Replying to @arunzpradhan
weisblatt    A%) When I give advice
willconstantine    Q5) In that situation it is never my advise alone that makes an action
JD_Dillon       Replying to @Quinnovator @arunzpradhan
carlakarijolich    A4 I would consider if I have permission to give advice. It’s not always wanted.  #lrnchat
weisblatt    A6) Just send your advice out into the world and let it go. It’s not yours anymore. #lrnchat
palilonm      Replying to @lrnchat
learningdudes    A5) I
spotlessmind82      Replying to @FLRichter
carlakarijolich    A5 I usually don’t follow up to see if someone took my advice
write2tg    A5) If one is genuinely interested in the receivers success
lisadbudzinski    A5 Definitely do follow ups. Do not want to advise & throw them out to sink or swim. To remain credible always check in. #lrnchat https://twitter.com/lrnchat/status/824801123664089093 …  QUOTE TWEET                      lrnchat @lrnchat                          Q5.). When you give advice do you follow up to see if your advice was taken and was helpful? #lrnchat (99)
VilmaBonilla      Replying to @weisblatt
tomspiglanin    A5) in hindsight
carlakarijolich       Replying to @palilonm @lrnchat
Quinnovator    sorry
FLRichter      Replying to @spotlessmind82
weisblatt      Replying to @Quinnovator
willconstantine    Q5) When someone asks me for advice I consider it humbling…I take it as a compliment #lrnchat
lrnchat    Q6.) How has giving or receiving advice impacted your learning? #lrnchat
urbie      Replying to @tomspiglanin
learningdudes    A6) I can’t give advice until I’m confident and competent enough to do so. That forces me to learn. #lrnchat
lisadbudzinski      Replying to @carlakarijolich
arunzpradhan    Q6.) helped me to develop coaching skills because I generally have no clue what to do #lrnchat
write2tg    A5) I mentor new immigrants and provide advice. When I follow up
DrJessupS    A6) Advice often leads to a different path or way to look at a problem. #lrnchat
willconstantine    Q6) The feedback that I receive will help me with something I don’t know…organic conversation back and forth #lrnchat
dawnjmahoney    A6) When I fact check or verify before giving the info
JD_Dillon    A6) In every possible way. Opened up new directions
jyoti__gupta    a6) Just took a course on Premiere – learning from an expert – wow
weisblatt    A6) Advice is just the part of your learning where you let people in. #lrnchat
kregerck    Nice! #lrnchat https://twitter.com/write2tg/status/824803345743351809 …  QUOTE TWEET                      Taruna Goel @write2tg                          A5) I mentor new immigrants and provide advice. When I follow up
write2tg    A6) When someone asks me for advice and I don’t know what to say that’s my clue to learn more.  #lrnchat
weisblatt    A6) When you give advice
carlakarijolich    A6 receiving advice helps me consider the boundary between advice and feedback. #lrnchat
write2tg      Replying to @weisblatt
urbie    #lrnchat A6a Since 2013 a number of K-12 teachers have remarked that some advice is just crazy/insane enough to have a chance of working
kregerck    A6) Like most things
carlakarijolich    A6 giving advice has helped me cultivate humility. I remind myself people can take or leave it. I never know their full situation. #lrnchat
learningdudes    A6) Taking advice requires humility
urbie    #lrnchat A6b Which makes me wonder if the world of L&D and K-12 are more similar than might appear at first glance.
write2tg    A6) Giving and receiving advice helps me self reflect. I can see my own blind spots.  #lrnchat
write2tg      Replying to @learningdudes
rabbitoreg    A6) I was told once to be more assertive with creative ideas on the spot. Good advice. But creativity doesn’t work that way. #lrnchat
weisblatt    A6) When you give advice
spotlessmind82    A6) Giving advice requires reflection on your own experience
lisadbudzinski    A6 Taking advice by an esteemed mentor provides invaluable learning. #lrnchat https://twitter.com/lrnchat/status/824803117330001921 …  QUOTE TWEET                      lrnchat @lrnchat                          Q6.) How has giving or receiving advice impacted your learning? #lrnchat
tomspiglanin    A6 Following advice is listening + learning from experience. Giving advice is listening + sharing from experience + still learning. #lrnchat
urbie    #lrnchat A6c So I guess as much as anything else it explains why I’m an #EdCamp fanboy..
MattGuyan    A6 Learn from the experience of others
kregerck    A6) I also learn what things people think (rightly or wrongly) that I know! #lrnchat https://twitter.com/lrnchat/status/824803117330001921 …  QUOTE TWEET                      lrnchat @lrnchat                          Q6.) How has giving or receiving advice impacted your learning? #lrnchat
urbie    #lrnchat A6d It’s got a dark side tho.. some advice
write2tg    A6) Receiving good advice from a mentor is like receiving a slice of their life
rabbitoreg    A6) What’s the difference between feedback and advice? #lrnchat
urbie    #lrnchat A6e Times like that i wonder how i might better present/package the sharing to appear more €œadult€?
carlakarijolich    A6 I’ve learned that advice isn’t about learning by hearing it
JaneBozarth      Replying to @urbie
weisblatt    A6) Being able to share a toll that someone can use to change their life is reward in itself. #lrnchat
lrnchat    Q7) What did you learn tonight?  #lrnchat
spotlessmind82      Replying to @rabbitoreg
JffZllr    #lrnchat a6- helps by expanding the list of questions I should be asking myself.
learningdudes    A7) Do you want my advice? 😉 #lrnchat
write2tg      Replying to @rabbitoreg
learningdudes    A7) I was reminded that Twitter chats are a great space for learning
arunzpradhan    Q7) that i kind of like #lrnchat
tomspiglanin    A6) I think it can be difficult to transition from receiving advice to coaching (advice-giving)
JD_Dillon    A7) Apparently @dawnjmahoney has some kind of porn addition filter in her #lrnchat setup  https://twitter.com/lrnchat/status/824804538922172418 …  QUOTE TWEET                      lrnchat @lrnchat                          Q7) What did you learn tonight?  #lrnchat
dawnjmahoney    A7) I am going to read the curated tweets and relearn from them. We can all keep learning this set of lessons  #lrnchat
write2tg    A7) I have some great folks I know here who can offer me some fantastic advice 🙂 #lrnchat
urbie    #lrnchat A6w Huge #EdCamp takeaway.. multiple minds mulling/conversing about problem/advice often yields ideas not otherwise considered
dawnjmahoney    A7) Hey THANKS @JDDillon Now you have it too! #lrnchat
JffZllr    #lrnchat a7) Learned I need to reflect more on question before giving advice.
piercemr    I probably don’t ask for enough advice. Or do I follow-up enough
carlakarijolich    A7 advice giving usually comes from a good place. Even If the advice is not useful
VilmaBonilla    A5) After giving or receiving advice is good practice to follow up. The follow up is an opportunity to build rapport and trust. #lrnchat
spotlessmind82    A7) I learned that it’s @JaneBozarth‘s Birthday! #lrnchat
write2tg      Replying to @arunzpradhan
TWardLearning    A7) Whether giving or receiving advice
JD_Dillon       Replying to @dawnjmahoney @jddillon
rabbitoreg    A7) Learned that we are more alike than different. #lrnchat
tomspiglanin    A7) learned: I really can #lrnchat by mobile
kregerck    A7) Several of my #lrnchat peeps are very poetic in their answers. https://twitter.com/lrnchat/status/824804538922172418 …  QUOTE TWEET                      lrnchat @lrnchat                          Q7) What did you learn tonight?  #lrnchat
DrJessupS    A7) I need to do more follow up after advice. #lrnchat
spotlessmind82    What @write2tg said! #lrnchat https://twitter.com/write2tg/status/824804851200774144 …  QUOTE TWEET                      Taruna Goel @write2tg                          A7) I have some great folks I know here who can offer me some fantastic advice 🙂 #lrnchat
lrnchat    QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
jyoti__gupta    a7) how singularly the term “”good advice”” is keyed to 2-3 people in my life #lrnchat
write2tg      Replying to @carlakarijolich
urbie    #lrnchat A7a Learned I should have muted my MacBook Pro speaker before snapping this #oldpa photo of Lily.. #Awakepic.twitter.com/Kd9lG8ptqC
kregerck    Feedback may come after an event
VilmaBonilla    A7) It’s not easy to give or receive advice but it is a necessary life skill that helps people learn and grow. #lrnchat
lisadbudzinski    A7 I learned a lot from the article: http://ln.is/hbr.org/2015/01/0L8OH &#8230; #lrnchat https://twitter.com/lrnchat/status/824804538922172418 …  QUOTE TWEET                      lrnchat @lrnchat                          Q7) What did you learn tonight?  #lrnchat
willconstantine    Q7) I learned that there are many components to giving/asking for advice #lrnchat
weisblatt    A7) I learned that I really miss my friends on lrnchat and I need to make sure I get to do it more often. #lrnchat
tomspiglanin    A7) indeed @TWardLearning – “”Wisdom left unshared is not.”” (I just made that up) #lrnchat https://twitter.com/twardlearning/status/824805127118675968 …  QUOTE TWEET                      Trish @TWardLearning                          A7) Whether giving or receiving advice
JD_Dillon    Thanks for the advice on advice #lrnchat! Cya next week. Til then http://jddillon.com  + http://axonify.com  https://twitter.com/lrnchat/status/824805432669638657 …  QUOTE TWEET                      lrnchat @lrnchat                          QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
dawnjmahoney    Shameless plug: Leading 2 panels on Level 3
willconstantine    QWrap) Will Constantine
write2tg    Someone famous once said
kelly_smith01    #lrnchat Thank for the great advice #lrnchat people
jyoti__gupta    awrap) Stay warm and safe. Visit: http://jg602.wordpress.com  #lrnchat
TWardLearning    I like it! #lrnchat https://twitter.com/tomspiglanin/status/824805696646549505 …  QUOTE TWEET                      Tom Spiglanin @tomspiglanin                          A7) indeed @TWardLearning – “”Wisdom left unshared is not.”” (I just made that up) #lrnchat https://twitter.com/twardlearning/status/824805127118675968 &#8230;
weisblatt    Awrap: Adam Weisblatt from Fairfield
tomspiglanin    Parting final birthday wishes for @JaneBozarth
JffZllr    #lrnchat a7) I also need to recognize and learn from times I give bad advice.
TWardLearning    See you there! #lrnchat https://twitter.com/dawnjmahoney/status/824805744528748544 …  QUOTE TWEET                      Dawn J Mahoney CPLP @dawnjmahoney                          Shameless plug: Leading 2 panels on Level 3
write2tg    Taruna Goel
dawnjmahoney    Qwrap Little ole me near Madison WI/crafting content/fighting the good fight/Am all over SoMe/Also tweet as @LeaderIn140 #lrnchat
urbie    #lrnchat I’m at #EdCampSummit in San Diego this weekend. Expect much sharing via Twitter from yours truly.. #MavicPro video/photos too!
weisblatt    Goodnight  #lrnchat
spotlessmind82    Thanks for another fabulous #lrnchat! Exactly the break I needed. Now to get motivated to do more work…
JaneBozarth    QWrap Headed to San Diego for @TrainingConf tomorrow. #LSCon in March. #lrnchat
arunzpradhan    QWrap) thanks all. Shamesless plug:  Just blogged on Workflow Learning http://tinyurl.com/z6xdrj4   #lrnchat
urbie      Replying to @SteeleThoughts
JaneBozarth      Replying to @tomspiglanin
kelly_smith01    #lrnchat Has spunk. I like spunk
urbie    #lrnchat Sound advice.. https://twitter.com/bethhill2829/status/824806426405109760 …  QUOTE TWEET                       ðŸŒŸBethany Hill  ðŸŒŸ @bethhill2829                          Spokien by an amazing #JoyfulLeaders 🙂  #ArkEdChat https://twitter.com/PaulONeill1972/status/824806309090512896 &#8230;
arunzpradhan    final request for advice
tomspiglanin    Awrap) why I’m here https://www.facebook.com/tom.spiglanin/posts/10210785717466508 &#8230; #lrnchat
VilmaBonilla    Thank you for hosting this discussion! Me llano Vilma. Corporate L&D change management consultant and independent contractor.  #lrnchat
dawnjmahoney    A7) “”that”” will forever now be referred to as #pern #lrnchat
lrnchat    Thanks everyone for joining #lrnchat tonight. Look for weekly transcripts at http://lrnchat.com
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