Transcript – June 30, 2016: Games

8:30 PM lrnchat Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
8:31 PM lrnchat Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat
8:31 PM kat_goyette #games4ed chatters, #lrnchat has topic of “Games”, starting now! Anyone brave enough to participate in 2 chats simultaneously? 🙂
8:31 PM perrinia I’m trying to maintain grace in the face of significant provokation. So i am grateful to be here #lrnchat. https://t.co/y92dm0CpPl
8:31 PM vidyakumar Vidya from India. Realize that to be a game designer, you need to be a gamer first, so trying to play more games. #lrnchat
8:31 PM Quinnovator been on road past 3 weeks, so out of the #lrnchat habit; ready for 60 mins of memestream mayhem, duck or join!
8:32 PM eLearninCyclops Jeff Goldman – eLearning Designer (developer too) at Johns Hopkins Health System in Baltimore #lrnchat
8:32 PM lrnchat Our chats focus on how people learn. #lrnchat
8:32 PM kelly_smith01 Qo) Everything is ducky #lrnchat
8:32 PM mverswijvelen ID working on a time management game for hospital discharge #lrnchat
8:32 PM write2tg Have been away for a while but always happy to be back in great company! #lrnchat
8:32 PM WiredFox_Dom RT @lrnchat: Our chats focus on how people learn. #lrnchat
8:32 PM JD_Dillon Howdy #lrnchat! Popping in as I walk out of Epcot for the evening … Principal Learning Strategist w/ Axonify, overall learning geek …
8:33 PM Quinnovator Clark Quinn, pushing L&D to science, consultant/author/speaker, learning game design geek, Walnut Creek CA #lrnchat
8:33 PM lodtrain Instructional designer and obsessed with Articulate Storyline 😄 #lrnchat
8:33 PM lrnchat Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:33 PM perrinia @JD_Dillon You saying hi to Mickey? #lrnchat
8:33 PM kat_goyette Katherine Goyette, Edtech Integration Consultant from Central California. Latest goal/project: aligning gaming to ccss effectively #lrnchat
8:33 PM JD_Dillon @perrinia we’ve met plenty of times #lrnchat
8:34 PM TheQuietSpeaker Freelance ID – currently working on classroom training for agri coops in Africa #lrnchat
8:34 PM kelly_smith01 Kelly Smith freelancing between gigs #lrnchat
8:34 PM perrinia Hi #lrnchat normally good humoured Perrin in Auckland trying to bring UX to learning strategy and design.
8:34 PM JeremyDBond @JD_Dillon what an awesome place to chat! Joining in here as I walk out of… the living room. #lrnchat
8:34 PM DrJessupS Hi #lrnchat I’m Stephanie an e-learning manager in Wisconsin. Enjoying the steam rising from the trees after the rain.
8:34 PM Joshing I’m a facilitator from the Philly burbs. Focus is on social learning & learning technology trends. #lrnchat https://t.co/9jNReqi3se
8:34 PM Voced_au Brisbane VET sector Manager and consultant #lrnchat
8:34 PM Quinnovator a0) that rebuilding a torture, er, exercise machine may take several attempts #lrnchat https://t.co/kQEJWcCcyA
8:34 PM write2tg TG from Vancouver BC, Learning Consultant currently working with BC Home Inspectors to develop their scope of work #lrnchat
8:35 PM yashmathgame Hello, I’m a math game for kids from 6 and up. #lrnchat
8:35 PM kidd81 Learn Addition & Subtraction https://t.co/PY69vqWlCV #lrnchat #edchat #mlearning #elearning #ipadchat #gbl #edtech https://t.co/sbPWPBLRxK
8:35 PM lodtrain Q0 learned more about using text to speech #lrnchat
8:35 PM theASIDEblog We learned that sometimes work may have its moments, but the friendships we build last a lifetime. #lrnchat
8:35 PM Quinnovator thrilled to see new faces at #lrnchat, clearly have missed a lot!
8:35 PM TheQuietSpeaker A0) Learned how to stop sharing my screen on Webex! I’m getting better at being the Webex host. #lrnchat
8:35 PM Voced_au A0) I learnt that sometimes people don’t like their opinions challenged by facts #lrnchat
8:35 PM RealBethGates Hey #lrnchat Beth Gates here. Learning Sevices Leader at PHILIPS checking in.
8:35 PM JD_Dillon @JaneBozarth @perrinia I’m much tighter with Buzz Lightyear … #lrnchat
8:35 PM CynnamonStelly A0) I learned someone wanted to snatch my voiceover job. Not nice. 😦 #lrnchat
8:36 PM kelly_smith01 Q0) Found out my mechanic coul not “replicate the error” with my car. I am adrift in paranoia about the life span of my car #Lrnchat
8:36 PM mverswijvelen Learned more about creating timers with dependencies. #lrnchat
8:36 PM eLearninCyclops Q0) Learned neat trick to change feedback master slides in SL2 – Change correct to green and incorrect to red #lrnchat
8:36 PM perrinia #lrnchat #twil that there are lots of learning folks out there who think that their experience trumps getting feedback from students.
8:37 PM Quinnovator oh dear! #Lrnchat https://t.co/hSljDnYYg9
8:37 PM perrinia @JD_Dillon @JaneBozarth *snicker #lrnchat
8:37 PM perrinia @Quinnovator oh. yeah. #lrnchat
8:37 PM lodtrain RT @eLearninCyclops: Q0) Learned neat trick to change feedback master slides in SL2 – Change correct to green and incorrect to red #lrnchat
8:37 PM Joshing I learned that it’s no fun to run a class in a hotel with bad Wi-Fi and limited cell phone reception. #lrnchat https://t.co/1RQlb6cWoc
8:37 PM eLearninCyclops Q0) Learned strange things can happen at the beginning of a fiscal year. #lrnchat
8:37 PM Minimologist A little late but I made it! Glad to join the party at #LRNchat tonight.
8:38 PM Voced_au @JaneBozarth usually it doesn’t bother me I was just shocked because of the people who were involved #lrnchat
8:38 PM write2tg A0) Today, I reflected about sharing freely and openly https://t.co/ZdHM9MNfKB #lrnchat
8:38 PM perrinia @Quinnovator nice to see you Clark. Been away a bit too. #lrnchat
8:38 PM Quinnovator @perrinia sigh. Like learning isn’t a continuous thing… #lrnchat
8:38 PM StyleLearn A0) The brain is like a muscle #lrnchat https://t.co/xNKVxhhGZL
8:38 PM kat_goyette A0: From this chat, learned I need to research “articulate storyline” as per @lodtrain There is always new tech tools to check out! #lrnchat
8:38 PM techcoachjuarez RT @kat_goyette: Katherine Goyette, Edtech Integration Consultant from Central California. Latest goal/project: aligning gaming to ccss eff…
8:39 PM The_NthDegree kia ora @lrnchat Nigel rolling in a little late from NZ, how’s it going? #lrnchat
8:39 PM TheQuietSpeaker @lodtrain I’m tempted to take this long weekend to sit down and learn it! I’ve been wanting to do that for ages. #lrnchat
8:39 PM JeremyDBond @DrJessupS snatch a photo? #lrnchat
8:39 PM lrnchat Q1) Do games really teach? if so, how? If no, why not? #lrnchat
8:39 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lrnchat Q1) Do games really teach? if so, how? If no, why not? #lrnchat
8:39 PM lodtrain RT @StyleLearn: A0) The brain is like a muscle #lrnchat https://t.co/xNKVxhhGZL
8:39 PM Minimologist @lrnchat A0: Learned to face down my fear of recording a video to pitch to present at the @apdouk conference in London next year! #LRNchat
8:39 PM StyleLearn @lrnchat Hi this is Alex Salas #elearning dev and #L&D pro from Orlando, FL #lrnchat
8:39 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q1) Do games really teach? if so, how? If no, why not? #lrnchat
8:40 PM The_NthDegree A1 More importantly than whether games teach is whether you can learn something from playing them. Yes, I believe you can 🙂 #lrnchat
8:40 PM massignmenthelp #lrnchat #delachat #G2Great #precalcchat #delachat English Writing Techniques https://t.co/wHj14swfMu
8:40 PM AssignmentHelpN 10 Simple yet Powerful Tools to Kickstart an Elearning Classroom https://t.co/1tLpO4teFl #EduReal #lrnchat #delachat https://t.co/QBfvGkfVuT
8:40 PM JD_Dillon A1) Games can do a lot of useful things when it comes to learning … If used well … #lrnchat https://t.co/V60mwVq7Uj
8:40 PM itknowingness RT @_iblobl: Learn Addition & Subtraction https://t.co/A3F66G1BXt #lrnchat #edchat #mlearning #elearning #ipadchat #gbl #edtech https://t.c…
8:40 PM _iblobl Learn Addition & Subtraction https://t.co/A3F66G1BXt #lrnchat #edchat #mlearning #elearning #ipadchat #gbl #edtech https://t.co/kte636reql
8:40 PM perrinia @JaneBozarth I’m, feeling a smidge fragile. #lrnchat but https://t.co/EphR4LJ8L1
8:40 PM Joshing It depends on the game. Monopoly taught be some financial principles, Operation didn’t make me a surgeon. #lrnchat https://t.co/IL1TO1kTqZ
8:41 PM lodtrain Q1 games engage and if you have the right content you learn having fun effortlesslt #lrnchat
8:41 PM Minimologist @lrnchat A1: The good games do. Strategy, cooperation, negotiation. #LRNchat
8:41 PM lodtrain RT @The_NthDegree: A1 More importantly than whether games teach is whether you can learn something from playing them. Yes, I believe you c…
8:41 PM kelly_smith01 Q0) Exchanged FB posts with Sarah Vowell (I am assume it was her) she liked my comment on the Garfield assassination – made my day #Lrnchat
8:41 PM CynnamonStelly A1) Yes. One can learn an objective through trial and error without the fear of everlasting disater from error. #lrnchat
8:41 PM lodtrain RT @Joshing: It depends on the game. Monopoly taught be some financial principles, Operation didn’t make me a surgeon. #lrnchat https://t.c…
8:41 PM write2tg A1) Good learning design is key. Games are one of the tools available to implement good design. #lrnchat
8:41 PM LnDDave RT @lrnchat: Q1) Do games really teach? if so, how? If no, why not? #lrnchat
8:41 PM lopta @lrnchat @JaneBozarth A1) Some do. How depends on the game but I can think of specific examples. #lrnchat
8:41 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q1) Do games really teach? if so, how? If no, why not? #lrnchat
8:42 PM Quinnovator a1) @raphkoster wrote a whole book (Theory of Fun) about how the fun in games is totally from the learning #lrnchat https://t.co/1scp7KyxYV
8:42 PM write2tg A1) Not all games can teach but gamification of learning can help depending on the objective/content/context #lrnchat
8:42 PM JeremyDBond A1) We LEARN from games. It’s not through the prism of teaching. The learner has the reins. #lrnchat https://t.co/6p4vZOBWuH
8:42 PM TheQuietSpeaker A1) If it’s a well-designed game. Must confess I don’t have much experience with gamification. #lrnchat
8:42 PM Quinnovator a1) to play the game, you have to learn the rules; to play the game well, you have to *master* the rules. #hello #lrnchat
8:42 PM RealBethGates A1) absolutely! They can teach teamwork, skills, change behavior #lrnchat
8:42 PM The_NthDegree @janebozarth I’m not so sure they will, it often seems we focus (wrongly IMHO) more on teaching than learning… #lrnchat
8:42 PM write2tg RT @JeremyDBond A1) We LEARN from games. It’s not through the prism of teaching. The learner has the reins. #lrnchat
8:42 PM Voced_au @JaneBozarth It is almost like they don’t understand it’s not about what they think it is about the numbers #lrnchat
8:43 PM kat_goyette A1: Games teach through student exploration, ongoing feedback to gamers. #lrnchat
8:43 PM bainsbrain A0:Confirmation on the importance of Ss launching their ideas to auth audiences #lrnchat #LaunchBook
8:43 PM eLearninCyclops Q1) Yes – Especially games that simulate real, relevant tasks #lrnchat
8:43 PM perrinia a0 #lrnchat I wonder if games allow for safe failures – and how to lose or fail so more or less well.
8:43 PM vidyakumar @lrnchat Yes they can! Communication, cooperation, strategy, management, decision making… #lrnchat
8:43 PM Joshing I think games can also reinforce or confirm understanding of information that was previously taught. #lrnchat https://t.co/IL1TO1kTqZ
8:43 PM Quinnovator a1) the fun in a good game is that the learning is pitched where it hits the ‘zone’ between boredom and frustration #lrnchat
8:43 PM kelly_smith01 Q1) Games can present multiple situations which can promote learning #Lrnchat
8:43 PM mverswijvelen @write2tg All depends how you define gamification. #lrnchat
8:43 PM LnDDave A1) games can be used to teach, but that on its own doesn’t make the teaching better. #lrnchat
8:43 PM Quinnovator a1) caveat: you can’t decree it’s a game, only your players can tell you if it’s a game or not! #lrnchat
8:43 PM urbie Hola #lrnchat.. urbie, instructional designer from out Arizona way
8:44 PM The_NthDegree @janebozarth the questions… them, they… those? the questions rather than the people 🙂 #lrnchat
8:44 PM JD_Dillon I am now #lrnchat-ing while on a ride about the history of human communication … 😜
8:44 PM Minimologist @Joshing Professional organizer in Allentown, PA. Always on the hunt for new ways to teach efficiency techniques to clients. #LRNchat
8:44 PM write2tg .@mverswijvelen Yes agree. How do you define gamification? #lrnchat
8:44 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q1) Do games really teach? if so, how? If no, why not? #lrnchat
8:44 PM vidyakumar @JeremyDBond Yes, but a game designed well with certain goals in mind has the potential to teach, don’t you think? #lrnchat
8:44 PM Voced_au A1) one problem with ‘teaching’ games is that they really aren’t as engaging as the games I play to relax so why would I play them #lrnchat
8:44 PM Quinnovator @JD_Dillon and doing neither well? #multitasking #lrnchat
8:44 PM RealBethGates And decision-making #lrnchat https://t.co/OYzgp0lcd5
8:44 PM TheQuietSpeaker A1) @duolingo is a great example of adding game aspects to #learning. I found it effective. #lrnchat
8:45 PM StyleLearn A1) The jury still out as more evidence is needed BUT games do increase engagement and behvior mod #lrnchat https://t.co/TFcMWI7gbN
8:45 PM write2tg A1) Games can be immersive, engaging, challenging, social, competitive and fun – all the things we want learning to be #lrnchat
8:45 PM Quinnovator a1) suppose games don’t really ‘teach’, they create an environment that requires learning #distinction #lrnchat
8:45 PM The_NthDegree @janebozarth …it’s not like I haven’t before… no matter, sure 🙂 it’s all about learning one way or another #lrnchat
8:45 PM theASIDEblog Games go back to ancient times, and definitely have a didactic purpose as well as a playful aspect. #lrnchat
8:45 PM JD_Dillon @Quinnovator I’m quite well versed in this content #thankthephonecians #lrnchat
8:45 PM kat_goyette A1: When students participate in team gaming, their desire to achieve leads them to communicate, collaborate, think critically. #lrnchat
8:45 PM write2tg RT @Quinnovator a1) suppose games don’t really ‘teach’, they create an environment that requires learning #distinction #lrnchat
8:46 PM urbie #lrnchat A1 Do games teach? Sort of. They provide performance feedback. Wanting to improve drives us to take note & change. Not wanting, no.
8:46 PM vidyakumar RT @write2tg: A1) Games can be immersive, engaging, challenging, social, competitive and fun – all the things we want learning to be #lrnch…
8:46 PM MrKMaston @Quinnovator They facilitate learning of varying modalities (e.g. dexterity, critical thinking) #lrnchat
8:46 PM Minimologist @Voced_au Thanks! I was trying to find a way to say this without using derogatory language. You did it. #LRNchat
8:46 PM kelly_smith01 Q1) Ideally games “teach” by including decisions and alternate paths with consequences/feedback #Lrnchat
8:46 PM Voced_au @Quinnovator and that is true whether the game is one designed for learning or for entertainment both create a learning environment #lrnchat
8:46 PM JD_Dillon A1) Games don’t have to be about teaching to facilitate learning #lrnchat
8:46 PM Quinnovator @MrKMaston exactly, the game design determines the required learning #lrnchat
8:46 PM lodtrain Q1 games teach in different ways for example can be used as activities in ILT to teach culture #lrnchat
8:47 PM lodtrain RT @kelly_smith01: Q1) Ideally games “teach” by including decisions and alternate paths with consequences/feedback #Lrnchat
8:47 PM lodtrain RT @MrKMaston: @Quinnovator They facilitate learning of varying modalities (e.g. dexterity, critical thinking) #lrnchat
8:47 PM lodtrain RT @urbie: #lrnchat A1 Do games teach? Sort of. They provide performance feedback. Wanting to improve drives us to take note & change. Not…
8:47 PM lrnchat Q2) What elements of games lead to learning? #lrnchat
8:47 PM lodtrain RT @theASIDEblog: Games go back to ancient times, and definitely have a didactic purpose as well as a playful aspect. #lrnchat
8:47 PM Quinnovator @JD_Dillon the phonecians or the phoenicians? #lrnchat
8:47 PM lodtrain RT @Quinnovator: a1) suppose games don’t really ‘teach’, they create an environment that requires learning #distinction #lrnchat
8:47 PM The_NthDegree @janebozarth I’m referring more to the entire L&D community (not to mention education) rather than ‘you’ – don’t even know the who? #lrnchat
8:47 PM JeremyDBond @vidyakumar yes, I guess I just prefer to talk about learning from the standpoint of the learner. #lrnchat
8:47 PM TheQuietSpeaker @write2tg agreed! And gaming aspects must be connected to what we want the learner to achieve. Not random bling bling. #lrnchat
8:48 PM JD_Dillon @Quinnovator them … #lrnchat https://t.co/K8F0wWE0tk
8:48 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lrnchat Q2) What elements of games lead to learning? #lrnchat
8:48 PM LnDDave A1) I think a game designer can build teachable moments into the play experience. Not all teaching looks like school. #lrnchat
8:48 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q2) What elements of games lead to learning? #lrnchat
8:48 PM DrJessupS A2) decision making and repetition. #lrnchat
8:48 PM theASIDEblog Games involve players, rulers, strategies, cooperation, teamwork, etc. Hard not to think they don’t teach. #lrnchat
8:48 PM kat_goyette A2: Games’ implicit formative feedback leads to learning. #lrnchat
8:48 PM perrinia A1 #lrnchat so games require one to learn to play them (the environment) but then there’s the so what question.
8:48 PM JD_Dillon A2) Failure. Repetition. Practice. Adaptation. Levels. Interaction. #lrnchat https://t.co/5UMlWdYecn
8:48 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q2) What elements of games lead to learning? #lrnchat
8:48 PM CynnamonStelly A2) The outcomes from a person’s decison helps learning. #lrnchat
8:48 PM The_NthDegree @janebozarth I do. I question it, question everything. Occasionally someone doesn’t like it much & takes it as criticism of course… #lrnchat
8:49 PM kat_goyette RT @JD_Dillon: A2) Failure. Repetition. Practice. Adaptation. Levels. Interaction. #lrnchat https://t.co/5UMlWdYecn
8:49 PM Joshing Games provide the opportunity to try new things in a “safe environment” without risking real world failure. #lrnchat https://t.co/eOuNfgh3kP
8:49 PM Voced_au @Minimologist If learning games were as engaging as say uncharted, or fallout we would have no problem with learners #lrnchat
8:49 PM Quinnovator a2) well, wrote a book about this (https://t.co/xfugi8fonX 🙂 so… decisions, context, challenge… #lrnchat https://t.co/BxBwZUiST0
8:49 PM Minimologist @lrnchat A2: Is effect linked back to choices players make? Is this relationship apparent to the players? #LRNchat
8:49 PM The_NthDegree A2 That’s the unpredictable part isn’t it? Learning can come from any challenge – it’s the commutable learning skills in particular #lrnchat
8:49 PM bainsbrain A15 Ways Video Games Teach Children Problem Solving Skills #lrnchat
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8:49 PM write2tg A2) Games allow us to make mistakes and learn from them. They are ‘safe’ in that sense #lrnchat
8:49 PM vidyakumar A2) Discovery and exploration. #lrnchat
8:50 PM JeremyDBond A2) Losing. #lrnchat https://t.co/WMz4e96TZA
8:50 PM lodtrain Q2 elements like discovery, competition or collaboration with teams #lrnchat
8:50 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lodtrain Q2 elements like discovery, competition or collaboration with teams #lrnchat
8:50 PM urbie #lrnchat A2 Game element? In and of itself, dunno. Our relationship to element matters more. Will I get that raise after? Yields increase?
8:50 PM write2tg A2) Games teach us about success but mostly about failure, roadblocks and challenges and how to find alternate ways #lrnchat
8:50 PM The_NthDegree @write2tg that’s a good point Taruna – the simulation angle (my boy flying through the air on a skateboard) #lrnchat
8:50 PM eLearninCyclops RT @write2tg A2) Games teach us about success but mostly about failure, roadblocks and challenges and how to find alternate ways #lrnchat
8:50 PM TheQuietSpeaker A2) Has a “sticky” element that makes you want to keep going. Like setting a personal best or achieving the next level. #lrnchat
8:51 PM Minimologist @JeremyDBond True. We’re generally lousy at learning from our successes. Pity, because that would make life more fun. #LRNchat
8:51 PM kat_goyette A2: Gaming leads to increased difficulty as each level is mastered, causing learning to occur in a natural progression. #lrnchat
8:51 PM perrinia @JeremyDBond #lrnchat yeah failing – semisafe except for monopoly which rarely ends well. poker too.
8:51 PM Quinnovator a2) situated decisions and contextualized feedback with graduated challenge #lrnchat
8:51 PM write2tg RT @JaneBozarth Q2 offer sense of competence: I can change my world, adjust my own outcomes #lrnchat
8:51 PM lodtrain RT @TheQuietSpeaker: A2) Has a “sticky” element that makes you want to keep going. Like setting a personal best or achieving the next level…
8:51 PM ryantracey RT @write2tg: A2) Games allow us to make mistakes and learn from them. They are ‘safe’ in that sense #lrnchat
8:51 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A2) The part where you play it #lrnchat
8:51 PM The_NthDegree yup I agree – commutable skills 🙂 RT @lodtrain: Q2 elements like discovery, competition or collaboration with teams #lrnchat
8:51 PM yashmathgame The perfect combination of adventure and math. #lrnchat
8:51 PM urbie #lrnchat A2 Most games I play have a social component. Not competition exactly. But the joy that comes from interaction, strategy working..
8:51 PM StyleLearn A2) If we are talking ID whatever elements enhance the context of learning objectives #MDA #lrnchat https://t.co/kFfz5qCvVY
8:51 PM theASIDEblog Games push players to think, observe, choose, and calculate. #lrnchat
8:51 PM kelly_smith01 Q2) A non linear path is an essential element of a game which prompts learning. It isn’t Jeopardy or Tic Tac Do #lrnchat
8:51 PM vidyakumar A2) Challenge, collaboration, success & failure… #lrnchat
8:51 PM Voced_au A2) tutorials that don’t interrupt the pace of play but teach certain actions. e.g. What buttons to press to draw and shoot #lrnchat
8:51 PM JD_Dillon RT @Quinnovator: a2) situated decisions and contextualized feedback with graduated challenge #lrnchat
8:52 PM Quinnovator a2) or, “a good game is a series of interesting decisions” (S. Maier), “a learning game is a series of important decisions” (me) #lrnchat
8:52 PM bainsbrain A2: prob solving, strategizing, zone of prox dvlpnt #lrnchat
8:52 PM TheQuietSpeaker @JaneBozarth yes, that’s key. Giving #learner sense of control. #lrnchat
8:52 PM kelly_smith01 RT @JD_Dillon: A2) Failure. Repetition. Practice. Adaptation. Levels. Interaction. #lrnchat https://t.co/5UMlWdYecn
8:52 PM JeremyDBond Games, by definition, should involve play. #lrnchat @Voced_au
8:52 PM CynnamonStelly @Voced_au Very good point about the tutorials. I agree! #lrnchat
8:52 PM theASIDEblog Gaming involves more than just knowing the rules. #lrnchat
8:52 PM lodtrain RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) A non linear path is an essential element of a game which prompts learning. It isn’t Jeopardy or Tic Tac Do #lrnchat
8:53 PM urbie #lrnchat A2 One of my fav games, Warp Factor, runs in Apple ][ emulation on my Mac. What makes it fun is remembering playing w/others in ‘80
8:53 PM bainsbrain A2: we should be asking kids this question 😄 #lrnchat
8:53 PM ryantracey A2) Authentic games replicate real-life scenarios that the learner may/will face. #lrnchat
8:53 PM write2tg A2) Games lead to learning because they allow us to explore and reach levels. Though not all levels are linear and that’s fun #lrnchat
8:53 PM lodtrain RT @Quinnovator: a2) or, “a good game is a series of interesting decisions” (S. Maier), “a learning game is a series of important decisions…
8:53 PM lodtrain RT @Voced_au: A2) tutorials that don’t interrupt the pace of play but teach certain actions. e.g. What buttons to press to draw and shoot…
8:53 PM lodtrain RT @bainsbrain: A2: prob solving, strategizing, zone of prox dvlpnt #lrnchat
8:53 PM lodtrain RT @TheQuietSpeaker: @JaneBozarth yes, that’s key. Giving #learner sense of control. #lrnchat
8:53 PM MrKMaston @bainsbrain perhaps our inner child? 😛 #lrnchat
8:53 PM vidyakumar RT @ryantracey: A2) Authentic games replicate real-life scenarios that the learner may/will face. #lrnchat
8:54 PM write2tg A2) Games make us feel empowered. We are in control of our path and the outcomes. #lrnchat
8:54 PM lrnchat Q3) What are the differences between games and gamification? #lrnchat
8:54 PM Voced_au A2) mutiple paths and endings depending on the choices made #lrnchat
8:54 PM Quinnovator @ryantracey actually, argue that games can use ‘fantastic’ settings and exaggeration and still lead to effective transfer #lrnchat
8:54 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lrnchat Q3) What are the differences between games and gamification? #lrnchat
8:54 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q3) What are the differences between games and gamification? #lrnchat
8:54 PM StyleLearn A2) Exploration, collaboration and social interaction #Mechanics #Dynamics #Aesthetics #lrnchat https://t.co/kFfz5qCvVY
8:54 PM JeremyDBond @JD_Dillon is that the ride that ends with the “future” of 1999? #lrnchat
8:54 PM ryantracey A3) This ol’ chestnut. #lrnchat
8:54 PM Quinnovator a3) my short response: gamification is extrinsic motivation, games are intrinsic #lrnchat https://t.co/4INr2GEIHa
8:54 PM Voced_au A3) gamification sucks, games don’t #lrnchat
8:55 PM yashmathgame In this game you can save yourself by answering math questions. That’s how you motivate students to learn an practice. #lrnchat
8:55 PM JeremyDBond Exactly. #gaming #lrnchat https://t.co/YeGqULseeN
8:55 PM JD_Dillon A3) Gamification is the use of game mechanics in non-game context #lrnchat https://t.co/9RNQ8pxzVw
8:55 PM ryantracey @Quinnovator I don’t think that’s untrue. #lrnchat
8:55 PM urbie #lrnchat A2 Games that actively respond to something learner/player does = great. Chance is cool, too. I like when more than 1 right answer.
8:55 PM perrinia @Voced_au ok that made me laugh, thanks.

#lrnchat

8:55 PM Quinnovator 😀 kinda my belief too, but there *are* times when gamification makes sense #lrnchat https://t.co/uSGO0qP3Kv
8:55 PM LnDDave RT @JD_Dillon: A2) Failure. Repetition. Practice. Adaptation. Levels. Interaction. #lrnchat https://t.co/5UMlWdYecn
8:55 PM The_NthDegree @janebozarth I think it’s a start… not the total solution. For me? Sure, I’m happy… not stupid happy, but yup happy 😀 #lrnchat how about u?
8:55 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q3) What are the differences between games and gamification? #lrnchat
8:55 PM JD_Dillon @JeremyDBond more like the jetsons nowadays #lrnchat
8:55 PM kelly_smith01 Q2) Clear and concise rules, manageable time and resources, and time for debriefing are essential elements #Lrnchat
8:55 PM write2tg A3) Gamification is using game-based mechanics in non gaming situations. #lrnchat
8:55 PM CynnamonStelly A3) Not sure yet. Google Doodles have been labeled as gamification. The Bethooven one was extremely fun! Learn about music notes. #lrnchat
8:55 PM lodtrain Q3 Games = fun and maybe not purposeful & gamification = content built for learning #lrnchat
8:55 PM urbie #lrnchat A3 Four syllables..
8:55 PM Voced_au @ryantracey but then I wouldn’t be able to scale mountains and shoot zombies #lrnchat
8:56 PM ryantracey A3) The product of gamification is not a game. #lrnchat
8:56 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A3) Difference being gamification – a recently made-up word for making learning fun #lrnchat
8:56 PM theASIDEblog Playing games is not about moving across a board, or getting to the next level digitally; it’s about decision making for a purpose. #lrnchat
8:56 PM eLearninCyclops RT @LnDDave This. https://t.co/Y62oOb6ThE #lrnchat
8:56 PM write2tg A3) Games may be fun and that may be their only purpose. Gamification has elements that help learn and problem solve #lrnchat
8:56 PM ryantracey @Voced_au Well that depends… 😛 #lrnchat
8:56 PM Quinnovator @JeremyDBond have read paper that talked about negative results of learning game, then admitted learners said “game was boring” 😮 #lrnchat
8:57 PM urbie #lrnchat A3 It’s not so much what we, instructional designers, call it. What matters more is what client knows it as.. play.
8:57 PM Joshing I have seen so much confusion on this topic. Short answer: gamification is about “winning” at learning. #lrnchat https://t.co/BubK2LQPRY
8:57 PM bainsbrain Great definition! #lrnchat https://t.co/AnRxHVG2y4
8:57 PM vidyakumar A3) Gamification is packaging on existing content, game is the content itself. #lrnchat
8:57 PM Minimologist @lrnchat A3: As the saying goes, I know it when I see it.
(specifically, the boredom factor is my clue)
#LRNchat
8:57 PM vidyakumar RT @ryantracey: A3) The product of gamification is not a game. #lrnchat
8:57 PM Quinnovator @write2tg disagree. Good game will require learning & problem-solving, gamification only adds motivation, not extra cog skills #lrnchat
8:58 PM StyleLearn A3) One has a field of study with theories, the other is a marketing strategy to make “games” valid to l&d #lrnchat https://t.co/QbDBSWkUP1
8:58 PM Joshing RT @Quinnovator: a3) my short response: gamification is extrinsic motivation, games are intrinsic #lrnchat https://t.co/4INr2GEIHa
8:58 PM Orindonx1 RT @yashmathgame: In this game you can save yourself by answering math questions. That’s how you motivate students to learn an practice. #l…
8:58 PM The_NthDegree A3 Mostly it’s about fun for games- learning can happen; isn’t the aim, gamification is about learning something; fun can happen.. #lrnchat
8:58 PM Orindonx1 RT @yashmathgame: The perfect combination of adventure and math. #lrnchat
8:58 PM TheQuietSpeaker @lodtrain yes! Good way to differentiate. Gamification applies aspects of gaming to learning. #lrnchat
8:59 PM eLearninCyclops RT @JaneBozarth Q3 gamification stirs intrinsic motivation (I want to keep going) rather than just offer extrinsic rewards (points) #lrnchat
8:59 PM The_NthDegree A3 It’s not whether or not you learn, it’s how you play the game??! #lrnchat
8:59 PM Voced_au A3) gamification often focuses to heavily on the learning at the expense of the engagement. #lrnchat
8:59 PM Joshing RT @Quinnovator: @write2tg disagree. Good game will require learning & problem-solving, gamification only adds motivation, not extra cog sk…
8:59 PM TheQuietSpeaker Anyone else getting “gasification” when they try to type “gamification”?? 🙂 #lrnchat #autocorrect
8:59 PM Quinnovator @Minimologist ‘xactly, or the reverse: engagement is the clue it’s a game! #lrnchat
8:59 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A3) Bonus feedback – does everyone understand what gamification means? #lrnchat
9:00 PM ryantracey A3) Note to self: Gamification isn’t just for learning. #lrnchat
9:00 PM lodtrain RT @eLearninCyclops: RT @JaneBozarth Q3 gamification stirs intrinsic motivation (I want to keep going) rather than just offer extrinsic rew…
9:00 PM Quinnovator @JaneBozarth isn’t that: games stir intrinsic (keep going), while gamification only is extrinsic (points)? #lrnchat
9:00 PM gabriellabroady RT @The_NthDegree: A3 It’s not whether or not you learn, it’s how you play the game??! #lrnchat
9:00 PM vidyakumar A3) Gamification is slapping game elements on content in non-game contexts. #lrnchat
9:00 PM JeremyDBond It’s safe to lose games. It may’ve been @TheWeirdWorld who observed: before video games, we never said “Oh, man! I died!” #lrnchat @perrinia
9:00 PM write2tg I guess Fitbit is an example of gamification of fitness. RT @ryantracey A3) Note to self: Gamification isn’t just for learning. #lrnchat
9:00 PM theASIDEblog Games vs Game-based Learning vs Gamification Infographic (detail) #lrnchat via https://t.co/rfmhfwiU6U https://t.co/JhFZKswy8Z
9:00 PM yashmathgame A great educational game should have the features of a regular game! That would be a successful gamification #lrnchat
9:01 PM kelly_smith01 RT @eLearninCyclops: RT @JaneBozarth Q3 gamification stirs intrinsic motivation (I want to keep going) rather than just offer extrinsic rew…
9:01 PM urbie RT @theASIDEblog: Games vs Game-based Learning vs Gamification Infographic (detail) #lrnchat via https://t.co/rfmhfwiU6U https://t.co/JhFZK…
9:01 PM lrnchat Q4) Which do you feel is better for learning; games or gamification? Why?#lrnchat
9:01 PM lodtrain RT @theASIDEblog: Games vs Game-based Learning vs Gamification Infographic (detail) #lrnchat via https://t.co/rfmhfwiU6U https://t.co/JhFZK…
9:01 PM Quinnovator a3) realize I may be saying ‘game *design*’ vs gamification, not games vs gamification #lrnchat
9:01 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lrnchat Q4) Which do you feel is better for learning; games or gamification? Why?#lrnchat
9:01 PM write2tg A3) Gamification vs Game Design by @ianbogost #devlearn https://t.co/0q3ZU87slA #lrnchat
9:02 PM LnDDave RT @lrnchat: Q4) Which do you feel is better for learning; games or gamification? Why?#lrnchat
9:02 PM ryantracey RT @write2tg: I guess Fitbit is an example of gamification of fitness. RT @ryantracey A3) Note to self: Gamification isn’t just for learnin…
9:02 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q4) Which do you feel is better for learning; games or gamification? Why?#lrnchat
9:02 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q4) Which do you feel is better for learning; games or gamification? Why?#lrnchat
9:02 PM Quinnovator @JaneBozarth sorry, I take gamification to mean ‘points’, not ‘intrigue me to keep going’ (by which I mean game design) #lrnchat
9:02 PM SpotLightCard RT @Quinnovator: a2) or, “a good game is a series of interesting decisions” (S. Maier), “a learning game is a series of important decisions…
9:02 PM JD_Dillon A4) It’s not about either/or. It’s about using best idea based on context. #lrnchat https://t.co/k3uvtMvDIM
9:02 PM The_NthDegree A3 Gamification and games are surely on the same scale, they’re different, but there again games & games are differnt! #lrnchat
9:02 PM SpotLightCard RT @write2tg: A2) Games teach us about success but mostly about failure, roadblocks and challenges and how to find alternate ways #lrnchat
9:02 PM btopro A4) compassionate teachers. Enough with making life a game already! 🙂 #lrnchat all gamed out
9:02 PM lodtrain q4 – it depends – games for icebreakers ILT, gamification for course content/elearning #lrnchat
9:03 PM lodtrain RT @write2tg: A3) Gamification vs Game Design by @ianbogost #devlearn https://t.co/0q3ZU87slA #lrnchat
9:03 PM StyleLearn A3) Gamification is not exclusive to #L&D #marketing took the first stab at it Every reward card you have is gamification #lrnchat
9:03 PM Quinnovator a4) I am a big fan of focusing on intrinsic motivation first, using extrinsic as a last resort, so games #lrnchat https://t.co/L4MRTyap9O
9:03 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A4) To answer this question, one must ask “what is a game?” #lrnchat
9:03 PM The_NthDegree A4 That really depends on what you’re trying to learn I guess. If what your learning is what the game is offering then bonus!! #lrnchat
9:03 PM urbie #lrnchat A4a What’s better, games or gamification? Methinks to learners they’re the same thing. Getting out of learners way is more better..
9:03 PM Joshing Don’t make me choose! 😉 It depends on the the content and the audience. #lrnchat https://t.co/hHecPrQWeG
9:03 PM ryantracey RT @The_NthDegree: A4 That really depends on what you’re trying to learn I guess. If what your learning is what the game is offering then b…
9:03 PM CynnamonStelly A4) I feel it depends on how you want to present the subject matter. Pros and cons of each that will not realy fit in this tweet. #lrnchat
9:03 PM kelly_smith01 Q3) Gamification seem to me to be tied to on the job performance results rather than scoring points for knowledge #Lrnchat
9:03 PM vidyakumar A3) Gamification: LinkedIn profile completeness, air miles, loyalty programs; Game: Flight Simulator, Factorio. #lrnchat
9:03 PM mverswijvelen Q3) https://t.co/ywcMaw1EL8 #lrnchat
9:03 PM perrinia #lrnchat i think we really underestimate games in terms of work &design. TBS the talented ID’s I know r moving there cause real interactive.
9:03 PM write2tg A4) Games vs gamification depends on the purpose or objective #lrnchat
9:03 PM lodtrain RT @Joshing: Don’t make me choose! 😉 It depends on the the content and the audience. #lrnchat https://t.co/hHecPrQWeG
9:03 PM ryantracey A4) This. RT @Joshing Don’t make me choose! 😉 It depends on the the content and the audience. #lrnchat
9:04 PM JeremyDBond @Minimologist how is it different to learn from successes? What do we learn then? #lrnchat
9:04 PM Quinnovator reminded to point to https://t.co/zkwlq9jFHd on When to Gamify #Lrnchat
9:04 PM lodtrain RT @mverswijvelen: Q3) https://t.co/ywcMaw1EL8 #lrnchat
9:04 PM Joshing Agreed. @Starbucks does a great job of it with their stars. #lrnchat https://t.co/g76MRlkTY5
9:04 PM theASIDEblog The learning potential is inherent in both games and gamification. Choosing the best tool for the purpose is what matters. #lrnchat
9:04 PM write2tg .@TheQuietSpeaker @ryantracey Yes, there is potential to learn from both games and gamification. It really is about the purpose #lrnchat
9:04 PM ryantracey @Quinnovator Early shameless plug. #lrnchat
9:05 PM kelly_smith01 RT @ryantracey: A4) This. RT @Joshing Don’t make me choose! 😉 It depends on the the content and the audience. #lrnchat
9:05 PM eLearninCyclops @JaneBozarth Going great – Hope things r well with u too. #lrnchat
9:05 PM The_NthDegree Could you say games are games by design, gamification is like other things by design, repurposed to be game-like?? #lrnchat
9:05 PM vidyakumar @lrnchat I’d say it depends on the context, and content, and audience, and budget #lrnchat
9:05 PM Quinnovator looks like something I’ll have to peruse (after #lrnchat) https://t.co/ZsWnfgcdQB
9:05 PM Minimologist @JeremyDBond “Hey look that worked! I’ll try that again!” versus “Well crap better not do that again…” #LRNchat
9:06 PM urbie #lrnchat A4 Differences between gamification and games.. https://t.co/6FpwgJu8Wx .. I think they’re different sides of the same coin tho..
9:06 PM AzzedineTDownes I’m looking for simulation games that will uncover gaps in business intelligence. Any suggestions? #lrnchat
9:06 PM Quinnovator RT @perrinia: #lrnchat i think we really underestimate games in terms of work &design. TBS the talented ID’s I know r moving there cause re…
9:06 PM StyleLearn A4) Learning is a process and part of everything. #gamedesign beats #gamification any day 🤓 #lrnchat https://t.co/UQA4va4WoH
9:06 PM lodtrain RT @Quinnovator: reminded to point to https://t.co/zkwlq9jFHd on When to Gamify #Lrnchat
9:06 PM lodtrain RT @Joshing: Agreed. @Starbucks does a great job of it with their stars. #lrnchat https://t.co/g76MRlkTY5
9:06 PM Quinnovator RT @vidyakumar: A3) Gamification: LinkedIn profile completeness, air miles, loyalty programs; Game: Flight Simulator, Factorio. #lrnchat
9:06 PM RealBethGates A4) yes, it depends on what you are trying to achieve… Just like w/ any other learning method #lrnchat https://t.co/5DgFVBFFBf
9:06 PM Quinnovator @ryantracey been there, done that, on round 2 😉 #lrnchat
9:07 PM PatriceKiraly RT @Quinnovator: a4) I am a big fan of focusing on intrinsic motivation first, using extrinsic as a last resort, so games #lrnchat https://…
9:07 PM JeremyDBond @perrinia when my brother would lose, he learned how to throw chips across the room. #lrnchat
9:07 PM Quinnovator @JaneBozarth @kkapp and he’d prefer that to #lrnchat?!?!? #masochismtango 🙂
9:07 PM StyleLearn @Joshing @Starbucks keeps you coming back for more right? as in the coffee was not enough ; ) #Lrnchat
9:08 PM mindcraft1ed @lrnchat HI everyone- sorry I’m late- I got the wrong time zone! I’m Rada- teacher for 10 years and new to twitter. #lrnchat
9:08 PM lrnchat Q5) What are obstacles to learning from games? #lrnchat
9:08 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q5) What are obstacles to learning from games? #lrnchat
9:08 PM Minimologist @JeremyDBond @perrinia … and you’d learn how to duck… #LRNchat
9:08 PM CynnamonStelly @mindcraft1ed @lrnchat Hello! Welcome! #lrnchat
9:09 PM The_NthDegree A5 According to my daughter it’s when I walk in front of the tv #lrnchat
9:09 PM perrinia @JeremyDBond a) brothers. amirite? and B) reminds me of when my aunt taught me how to play 52 card pickup.
#lrnchat
9:09 PM bainsbrain Agreed! Games integrate. Gamification can be contrived- not nec bad, but not integrated #lrnchat https://t.co/eYWv5gpHcB
9:09 PM Quinnovator @AzzedineTDownes sounds like something we should design! 🙂 #lrnchat
9:09 PM TheQuietSpeaker A5) Obstacle=not knowing audience. Some people will not be receptive to games or certain types of games. #lrnchat
9:09 PM Joshing Focusing on the destination (winning) not the journey (learning). #lrnchat https://t.co/2wvVonGYlV
9:09 PM JeremyDBond @perrinia apt name. #lrnchat
9:10 PM Quinnovator a5) the negative reaction to the word ‘game’, for one! #lrnchat https://t.co/B1WuZzBWrY
9:10 PM Voced_au A4) one of the best pieces of gamification I have seen is a task and schedule app that treated your life like an RPG #lrnchat
9:10 PM bainsbrain I’ll follow u! Welcome to Twitter! #lrnchat 😊 https://t.co/YQT2xL4iL2
9:10 PM lodtrain q5 some learners think these are silly and won’t take seriously for training, and has to be designed well (good content) #lrnchat
9:10 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A5) Poor design, access, fun police…. #lrnchat
9:10 PM Minimologist @lrnchat A5: Sufficient time to build, teach, play, and debrief an excellent learning game. #LRNchat
9:10 PM DrJessupS A5) Afraid to be on the bottom of the leader board. #lrnchat
9:10 PM perrinia @JeremyDBond the name does give away the game, in fairness we only played once. #lrnchat
9:10 PM write2tg A5) Poorly designed games are the biggest obstacle. #lrnchat
9:10 PM The_NthDegree A5 Poor games, poor attitude, wrong level of difficulty… #lrnchat
9:10 PM JD_Dillon A5) Influencing people to accept games/mechanics as useful workplace learning tools #lrnchat https://t.co/eobisAmbiT
9:10 PM Quinnovator a5) badly design games. #lrnchat
9:10 PM CynnamonStelly A5) Obstacle – When attention switches to completion of the objective and not every aspect of reaching the completion. #lrnchat
9:10 PM mindcraft1ed Q4 I think Games are better. Games can be individualized learning opportunities w/ repetition, assessments before progressing, etc #lrnchat
9:10 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q5) What are obstacles to learning from games? #lrnchat
9:10 PM TheQuietSpeaker A5) I’m highly sensitive and can’t stand highly-competitive games. It has sometimes made me recoil in a classroom. #lrnchat
9:10 PM eLearninCyclops @JaneBozarth Just a quick connection to somewhere fun, I hope. Old Bay Goes well on everything – Crabs, popcorn, Bloody Marys… #lrnchat
9:10 PM mverswijvelen A5 One thing can be it is a game style the learner does not like, like MMORPG as compared to Candy Crush #lrnchat
9:10 PM StyleLearn A5) There are game types and player types. A mismatch can compromise learning outcomes. Dev costs $$$ #lrnchat https://t.co/T9ntaSEmm1
9:10 PM Quinnovator a5) when someone decrees it a game, but it’s really not fun #lrnchat
9:10 PM vidyakumar RT @The_NthDegree: A5 Poor games, poor attitude, wrong level of difficulty… #lrnchat
9:11 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q5) What are obstacles to learning from games? #lrnchat
9:11 PM JD_Dillon RT @Quinnovator: a5) badly design games. #lrnchat
9:11 PM perrinia @StyleLearn hence #ux 😛
#lrnchat
9:11 PM vidyakumar A5) When they are applied in the wrong context. #lrnchat
9:11 PM Quinnovator a5) dev costs, or perceptions thereof #lrnchat
9:11 PM Minimologist @Quinnovator Huge. I usually want to run when I hear the word. #LRNchat
9:11 PM write2tg A5) There is no learning from games when they don’t seem believable #lrnchat
9:12 PM kelly_smith01 When the game or Gamification tool become the event or a type of circus #Lrnchat
9:12 PM Quinnovator @Minimologist and the bigger problem, so do execs #lrnchat
9:12 PM Voced_au A5) integrating the learning into the game is such a way that it doesn’t make the player disengage from the game #lrnchat
9:12 PM TheQuietSpeaker @CynnamonStelly exactly. The game objective doesn’t align with the learning objective. Becomes a game for game’s sake. #lrnchat
9:12 PM write2tg A5) If there is no fun in a game, it is tough to learn from it. #lrnchat
9:12 PM urbie #lrnchat A5 Rigidity. Inflexibility. Boredom..Think Kobayashi Maru.. https://t.co/EEoJiUhCj1
9:12 PM Quinnovator RT @write2tg: A5) There is no learning from games when they don’t seem believable #lrnchat
9:12 PM theASIDEblog Games are a definite motivation tool and challenge players to achieve for personal or team goals. #lrnchat
9:12 PM Quinnovator RT @kelly_smith01: When the game or Gamification tool become the event or a type of circus #Lrnchat
9:12 PM The_NthDegree A5 From a user perspective I would say it’s ‘gameplay’ from the other end we call that ‘game design’ I guess… #lrnchat
9:12 PM vidyakumar @StyleLearn Yes! I shudder to think someone will make me play a game based on cricket, and call it fun. #lrnchat
9:13 PM Minimologist @TheQuietSpeaker As a learner, I live in fear of “Get in a group and real quick spontaneously do ____” #LRNchat
9:13 PM ryantracey A5) When there’s nothing to transfer. #lrnchat
9:13 PM eLearninCyclops @JaneBozarth Maine is great, have a lobster roll for me. #lrnchat
9:13 PM StyleLearn RT @mverswijvelen: A5 One thing can be it is a game style the learner does not like, like MMORPG as compared to Candy Crush #lrnchat
9:13 PM perrinia #lrnchat there’;s a fine balance to games. in learning we tend to make games too easy. what;s the fun in that?
9:13 PM write2tg A5) There is no learning when the focus is only on game elements and design components and the game looses its purpose #lrnchat
9:13 PM write2tg RT @ryantracey A5) When there’s nothing to transfer. #lrnchat
9:13 PM lodtrain Attended event with Mario Herger – he has excellent ideas about gamification and getting started with it #lrnchat
9:13 PM JeremyDBond A5) They’re not perceived as learning. It helps to have a learning mindset. #lrnchat https://t.co/0Of3xg1fNk
9:13 PM ryantracey RT @write2tg: A5) There is no learning when the focus is only on game elements and design components and the game looses its purpose #lrnch…
9:13 PM perrinia @mverswijvelen convinced me that plants vs zombies has the best scaffolding. it’s v clever. #lrnchat
9:13 PM Voced_au @write2tg I would disagree I play a lot of games that are wildly unbelievable and still learn from them #lrnchat
9:13 PM MrKMaston @ryantracey Heh, when you’re made to sit and watch instead of play #lrnchat
9:14 PM vidyakumar A5) If players are not motivated by what’s in the game. #lrnchat
9:14 PM perrinia @MrKMaston @ryantracey like…. learning? #lrnchat
9:14 PM urbie #lrnchat A5 Best elearning game I ever saw was an assessment a peer did. Answer questions before a descending ceiling crushed you..
9:14 PM TheQuietSpeaker @Minimologist me too! Also fear horrible ice breakers. One time they asked us to make silly poses (individually). I was mortified. #lrnchat
9:14 PM Joshing @urbie Kirk cheated to win that one! #nerdhumor #lrnchat
9:14 PM write2tg . @Voced_au That’s interesting. What aspects of these games creates the learning potential for you? #lrnchat
9:14 PM kelly_smith01 Gaming for gaming’s sake. It is used by demand of management or influenced by trend #Lrnchat
9:14 PM theASIDEblog With any type of game strategy, players need to use a variety of tools to advance. #lrnchat
9:14 PM write2tg RT @kelly_smith01 Gaming for gaming’s sake. It is used by demand of management or influenced by trend #Lrnchat
9:15 PM Quinnovator RT @kelly_smith01: Gaming for gaming’s sake. It is used by demand of management or influenced by trend #Lrnchat
9:15 PM urbie #lrnchat A5 Word-of-mouth baby! People in other divisions took the course just to see how well they did in the game/assessment.
9:15 PM StyleLearn @vidyakumar the solution involves target audience analysis and smaller audiences to launch mini games with same content #lrnchat
9:15 PM Voced_au @perrinia Dark Souls for example, hardest game around, super steep learning curve, incredibly engaging to the point of addictive #lrnchat
9:15 PM urbie @Joshing #lrnchat If you can’t cheat at a game (make it your own) why play it? Okay, maybe cheat’s too strong but it has to enable a win.
9:16 PM perrinia @Voced_au #lrnchat yeah mastery is a hell of a driver (ping @DanielPink )
9:16 PM Minimologist @TheQuietSpeaker Golly yes. Flashbacks to a cooperative living statue game. It’s been years I still have the willies. #LRNchat
9:16 PM lrnchat Q6) What’s your favorite game for learning? Why? #lrnchat
9:16 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q6) What’s your favorite game for learning? Why? #lrnchat
9:16 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q6) What’s your favorite game for learning? Why? #lrnchat
9:16 PM JeremyDBond Is there anything left to learn after winning? And anywhere to go after reaching your destination? #lrnchat @Joshing
9:16 PM mverswijvelen #lrnchat https://t.co/HdxYDqgWhs Wonderful talk of the P v Zombies maker. Amazing for learning designers.
9:17 PM write2tg A6) My fav games are the ones that can keep me engaged, make me think in new ways and keep me coming back for more #lrnchat
9:17 PM TheQuietSpeaker @perrinia I guess you always have to find the balance. If games are too hard, people give up. #lrnchat
9:17 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 I have to admit to a soft spot in my heart for adolescent birthday games (circa early ’60s) involving a donkey or record player.
9:17 PM ryantracey A6) Diner Dash. I explain why here: https://t.co/mLdNcTHw7d #earlyshamelessplug #lrnchat
9:17 PM lodtrain Q6) Legos! Used these for team building, and for elearning like football, soccer, and point scoring game ideas #lrnchat
9:17 PM TheQuietSpeaker @Minimologist that’s what happens when people don’t consider that not everyone is like them. #lrnchat
9:17 PM lodtrain RT @ryantracey: A6) Diner Dash. I explain why here: https://t.co/mLdNcTHw7d #earlyshamelessplug #lrnchat
9:17 PM Voced_au @write2tg The learning is created by the intricacy of the game play, resource management in scare environments for example. #lrnchat
9:18 PM WrayMelissa A6) there’s this old PC game called Gazillionaire. It’s still available. Monopoly in space. Perfect lesson in supply and demand. #lrnchat
9:18 PM The_NthDegree A6 Scrabble still after all these years because it’s about word & words are awesome https://t.co/B9Hb0u0PJo #lrnchat
9:18 PM vidyakumar @StyleLearn No amount of audience analysis will reveal my aversion for cricket, unless I’m part of the pilot group that’s studied. #lrnchat
9:18 PM Quinnovator a6) Quest (https://t.co/BQSurE6nX0), not just because we wrote it :), but because it hit a real need #lrnchat https://t.co/W1Zdc6LuDU
9:18 PM theASIDEblog One big obstacle to learning from games is when others think games are just for fun. PLAY does matter. #lrnchat
9:18 PM Minimologist @lrnchat A6: So much to learn playing Pandemic. Cooperation, resource management, efficient movement. #LRNchat
9:18 PM vidyakumar @StyleLearn So, give such users (me) a cop out, by providing content in alternate form. I wouldn’t mind reading a simple web page. #lrnchat
9:18 PM write2tg A6) Back in 2013, I had written about ‘Why Training Should Be More Like Candy Crush?’ https://t.co/tTaijf9syl #lrnchat
9:19 PM Minimologist @TheQuietSpeaker This often shows up as an introvert/extrovert clash. #LRNchat
9:19 PM Quinnovator a6) AFAIK, Quest was the first serious game playable on the web (willing to be wrong) #lrnchat
9:19 PM cpoole27 The Value of “Invisible Learning” via @willrich45 https://t.co/dArAhriOw4 #edchat #ISTE2016 #education #lrnchat #cpchat #education
9:19 PM theASIDEblog Play is to the 21st century what work was to the 20th century. – The Play Ethic #lrnchat
9:19 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 Depends.
9:19 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A6) How can I have a favourite when… I HAVE YET TO PLAY ALL THE GAMES #lrnchat
9:19 PM perrinia @MrKMaston @ryantracey Touche to you sir! #lrnchat ;-D
9:19 PM StyleLearn A6) Most of the #elearning games I and others share at @Articulate #elhchallenge #lrnchat https://t.co/9pBXLWvAs5
9:19 PM mverswijvelen #lrnchat A6 Papers Please, shows how the most boring subject (paperwork) can be made exciting by good game design
9:19 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 What makes me want to play a game? The backstory.
9:19 PM write2tg . @Voced_au Yes but scarcity of resources is very believable for me 🙂 But I do hear your point #lrnchat
9:19 PM perrinia @TheQuietSpeaker Too easy and they give up too. This i see more often. #lrnchat
9:19 PM The_NthDegree @urbie yeah that’s true Urbie – different moods, different games… #lrnchat
9:20 PM CynnamonStelly A6) I like those Japanese picture puzzles (Nonograms) and I still struggle with this game called Tap to On. Challenging. #lrnchat
9:20 PM The_NthDegree A6 Life. #lrnchat
9:20 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 It’s why I love Warp Factor so much.. https://t.co/nP6Y6w9wQT
9:20 PM TheQuietSpeaker @perrinia interesting. Maybe we’re more likely to underestimate learners. #lrnchat
9:20 PM The_NthDegree A6b Parenthood. #lrnchat
9:20 PM RealBethGates I like to hire former athletes because the behaviors and skills acquired during the ‘games’ they play are valuable in biz #lrnchat
9:20 PM kelly_smith01 Q6) Have no found one yet as a learner or administrator. Have seen some things that have potential via online demos #Lrnchat
9:21 PM mverswijvelen A6 https://t.co/fQYfZchQ4G is also a favourite because of simplicity and emotional impact. #lrnchat
9:21 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 What made Matthew Broderick want to play War Games? Grab my interest and I’ll happily play Old Maid for hours (w/grand kid)..
9:21 PM WrayMelissa A6) Typing Shark and Typing of the Dead all have special place in my heart. #lrnchat
9:21 PM audioswhite Erk – missing a good #lrnchat tonight. First played w game design in grad music comp study. Involve audience in creation/outcome
9:21 PM perrinia I still love Dominoes. I learned my 5s timetables on them #lrnchat online i play starwars with my kid and we are learning strategy and mgmt
9:21 PM Minimologist @mverswijvelen Excellent challenge. As a paper organizer I wonder if this could be done. #LRNchat
9:21 PM StyleLearn A6) I have learned a ton from regular #videogames though 🙃 #lrnchat
9:21 PM lodtrain Saw this today by Brian Washburn #lrnchat https://t.co/fr1G2qjYtD he has a puzzle game idea
9:21 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 Pin-the-tale..
9:21 PM MrKMaston @The_NthDegree A6) Game of Life is deceptive. Why was I so pleased to fill my car up with children? Two is hard enough! #lrnchat
9:22 PM The_NthDegree @perrinia have you got the 15s one – that’s cool too – great for pattern recognition 🙂 #lrnchat
9:22 PM mindcraft1ed @lrnchat as a special ed teacher I enjoyed the hands on math games with manipulatives. students get a kick out of it! #lrnchat
9:22 PM JeremyDBond @Quinnovator although I bet games are more boring if there’s no learning. (No challenge.) #lrnchat
9:22 PM lrnchat Q7) What is something that you learned tonight or will try? #lrnchat
9:22 PM lrnchat Q7) What is something that you learned tonight or will try? #lrnchat
9:22 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q7) What is something that you learned tonight or will try? #lrnchat
9:22 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q7) What is something that you learned tonight or will try? #lrnchat
9:22 PM perrinia @The_NthDegree NO! that sounds good. #lrnchat
9:22 PM TheQuietSpeaker A6) No games are coming to mind except Boggle! Was obsessed with it as a kid. Then got obsessed with it again on my phone. #lrnchat
9:22 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lrnchat Q7) What is something that you learned tonight or will try? #lrnchat
9:22 PM write2tg A7) I learned that the definitions of games, gamification, game-based design are evolving and I must read up some more #lrnchat
9:23 PM The_NthDegree @perrinia Here you go! https://t.co/m0g0y48772 #lrnchat and dominoes
9:23 PM lodtrain Q7 Favorited several great ideas and thoughts on games and gamification that I can chat with colleagues about THANKS @ #lrnchat
9:23 PM CynnamonStelly A7) I will try to create a little game for my learners. 😉 #lrnchat
9:23 PM mindcraft1ed @mverswijvelen I’m not familiar with papers please…
this is a game? #lrnchat
9:23 PM RealBethGates Hmm, questions tonight we’re pretty weak. No offense #lrnchat
9:23 PM perrinia I got three articles lined up, and a few games i gotta go try. #lrnchat https://t.co/KWi5V2PkjL
9:23 PM vidyakumar A7) I reinforced my thinking that I have to play more games. #lrnchat
9:23 PM urbie #lrnchat A7 I might crack open my copy of Teach Like A Pirate to review some game (hook) ideas..
9:24 PM audioswhite Feel that way abt multimedia learning application – involve participants in creation/outcomes over points/badges etc. #lrnchat
9:24 PM WrayMelissa A7) ha! I learned to pay attention to the clock so I don’t miss the #lrnchat about my favorite topic! (Looking forward to the transcript)
9:24 PM TheQuietSpeaker A7) That I need to check out #elearningheroes (thanks @lodtrain!). #lrnchat
9:24 PM StyleLearn @vidyakumar right, I meant this in an #l&d context but prefering a webpage might tell me that a game is not the best option ; ) #lrnchat
9:24 PM eLearninCyclops It takes more time, which is hard to find, to utilize games and games elements, but worth doing. Need to do more. #lrnchat
9:24 PM ryantracey A6) The Australian Bureau of Statistics created Run That Town https://t.co/Xkm7XMC3Ik #lrnchat
9:24 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A7) I…I will try and give my game design another crack. Finish it, I must. And read this again! https://t.co/69c5bm44vw #lrnchat
9:24 PM DrJessupS A7) I couldn’t convince my boss that naps were beneficial, how do I convince him I need to play games to be a better ID? #lrnchat
9:24 PM The_NthDegree A7 It’s good to remember that games are meant to be about fun… I’m sure we’ve said that about teaching too eh? #lrnchat
9:25 PM Voced_au @ryantracey typical only available on iPhone when will people learn #lrnchat
9:25 PM ryantracey A7) I’m going to check out all the games everyone mentioned. #lrnchat
9:25 PM Joshing There is still a great deal of confusion about gamification within the learning community. #lrnchat https://t.co/uycQ9xxPzl
9:25 PM write2tg A7) A good resource that I will go back to https://t.co/umHlJshshC – three-part series on Gamifiying Your Instruction by @kkapp #lrnchat
9:25 PM eLearninCyclops RT @ryantracey A7) I’m going to check out all the games everyone mentioned. #lrnchat
9:25 PM ryantracey @Voced_au Yes, uber annoying. #lrnchat
9:25 PM lodtrain RT @DrJessupS: A7) I couldn’t convince my boss that naps were beneficial, how do I convince him I need to play games to be a better ID? #lr…
9:26 PM lodtrain RT @write2tg: A7) A good resource that I will go back to https://t.co/umHlJshshC – three-part series on Gamifiying Your Instruction by @kka…
9:26 PM kelly_smith01 Liked the design of the old Simcity games #Lrnchat
9:26 PM mverswijvelen #lrnchat A7 Really want to prove good learning games are all in the design & don’t have to be expensive productions to be effective and fun
9:26 PM urbie #lrnchat A7 Oh yeah! Remember Twister? I love games that encourage/require movement. #boos (butts-out-of-seats) learning rocks!
9:26 PM StyleLearn @vidyakumar it depends if you like to play online games don’t you think? I prefer a good game to a reading #zzz #lrnchat
9:26 PM Quinnovator a6) Fluxx is a hoot, a card game where play changes the rules. teaches lots about game design #lrnchat
9:26 PM Voced_au Q7) Playing uncharted 4, getting history lesson on famous pirates at the same time, while shooting things and climbing walls #lrnchat
9:26 PM MrKMaston Holy moley, I’ma checkin’ this out #lrnchat https://t.co/3uUMJQLKAM
9:26 PM TheQuietSpeaker @write2tg @kkapp thanks—will read this. #lrnchat
9:27 PM vidyakumar @StyleLearn Only if it has cricket as a theme. If it’s engaging to me, I’d prefer to play of course :-). #lrnchat
9:27 PM ryantracey A7) I’m also going to ponder @quinnovator’s intrinsic/extrinsic differentiator between games & gamification. #lrnchat
9:27 PM urbie #lrnchat Anybody care to share memories of playing Oregon Trail in school? It’s after my time but I’m curious how it went for others..
9:27 PM fvandenburg RT @write2tg: A7) A good resource that I will go back to https://t.co/umHlJshshC – three-part series on Gamifiying Your Instruction by @kka…
9:27 PM lrnchat QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:27 PM The_NthDegree A6 When I was in the Navy it had to be ‘Uckers’ that game is an art form – definitely high-elements of cheating though!! #lrnchat
9:27 PM write2tg . @ryantracey @quinnovator I am with you on that one. I have a long weekend ahead to ponder 🙂 #lrnchat
9:27 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:27 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lrnchat QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:27 PM perrinia @JaneBozarth @JeremyDBond @Quinnovator How to win (exhibit mastery)? #lrnchat
9:27 PM kelly_smith01 Q7) I did get some good links that I anxiously want to read #lrnchat
9:27 PM mverswijvelen @mindcraft1ed #lrnchat iPad game about visa processing in a ‘cold war’-like country
9:28 PM urbie #lrnchat urbie, instructional designer looking to transition from project management back to learning experience design..
9:28 PM JeremyDBond @JaneBozarth @Quinnovator well, they’d call it playing. They wouldn’t call it playing if they weren’t into it enough to learn. #lrnchat
9:28 PM lodtrain Thanks all for a great #lrnchat from a global Instructional designer. I learn so much from this group!
9:28 PM Quinnovator will read article pointed to from learning world design #lrnchat https://t.co/rMNI70QBQu
9:28 PM eLearninCyclops QWrap) Jeff Goldman – eLearning Guy in Baltimore, MD. Thx again for a great #lrnchat
9:28 PM StyleLearn A7) Games are not for everyone regardless of generation. Leave the #millennials and #GenZ folks alone #lrnchat https://t.co/a4YKil8Zn0
9:29 PM ryantracey AW) Well that was fun. Who won? #lrnchat
9:29 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat Awrap) Happily waving from Sydney. Aspiring board game designer (among many things) #lrnchat
9:29 PM WrayMelissa @urbie well, it’s how I learned about dysentery… #lrnchat
9:29 PM mindcraft1ed @mverswijvelen have to look that one up! thanks #lrnchat
9:29 PM Voced_au Remember Australia while its important to vote, getting your democracy sausage is just as important https://t.co/RzdUjdnGAe #lrnchat
9:29 PM The_NthDegree AWrap I jst wrote this on the use of eportfolios as a better way to assess;u could include snaps of games 2 https://t.co/2PVyCSrtrm #lrnchat
9:29 PM Joshing @urbie https://t.co/CcOwzMzuY2 #lrnchat
9:29 PM perrinia Perrin Auckland NZ giving a talk on how elearning SUX (lets focus on the Student UX) at UX homegrown 22 July. #lrnchat
9:29 PM ryantracey Wanna shoot zombies like @Voced_au does? “The future of entertainment” https://t.co/iQuddwYfdl #shamelessplug #GBL #lrnchat
9:29 PM Quinnovator aW) blog at https://t.co/Nm5yXCbV5R, book on game design at https://t.co/xfugi8fonX, available thru https://t.co/FfFRKPWUDT #lrnchat
9:30 PM gabriellabroady RT @urbie: #lrnchat urbie, instructional designer looking to transition from project management back to learning experience design..
9:30 PM urbie #lrnchat I was at iPadPalooza #iplza16 last week. Check out the hashtag for lots o’ fun learning, like.. https://t.co/pume7xcYx5
9:30 PM Voced_au AW) we even make a game out of elections and sausage sizzles #lrnchat https://t.co/RzdUjdnGAe
9:30 PM mverswijvelen Working on learning game about hospital discharge paperwork, so def hoping it can be done! #lrnchat https://t.co/3h9ZesS54X
9:30 PM JeremyDBond I learned that Boos = Yays. #lrnchat https://t.co/QsdKJT7pul
9:30 PM vidyakumar @lrnchat AWrap) Thanks for the great session everyone! Didn’t realize how much I’ve been missing it until I got back here today. #lrnchat
9:30 PM write2tg Qwrap) TG from Vancouver BC – Learning Consultant. I blog at https://t.co/oqgk8by82G Thanks for a great chat everyone! #lrnchat
9:30 PM LearnKotch Really ? I must check the transcript #lrnchat https://t.co/AAxlrpsNi9
9:30 PM JD_Dillon Glad I could make it for half of #lrnchat! Blogging away at https://t.co/8xKUK5eqMk + https://t.co/pbUEYUHS6u. https://t.co/W2IwqWnKzo
9:30 PM Minimologist @lrnchat QWrap: Efficiency consultant and office organizer in eastern PA. Life transition simplifier. https://t.co/blsrQaoLMk #LRNchat
9:30 PM lrnchat Thanks everyone for joining #lrnchat tonight. See you next week! Look for weekly transcripts at https://t.co/ijNIXq164N