Transcript – April 7, 2016: Mentoring and Coaching

8:30 PM lrnchat Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
8:30 PM AdamTilted Hello #lrnchat! Sweating, but doing fine
8:31 PM ziolablu It’s been a pretty good week in my world! #lrnchat
8:31 PM lrnchat Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat
8:31 PM CandiceCPLP Hi, everyone! Been a few weeks, glad to be here with this topic #lrnchat
8:31 PM write2tg Hello #lrnchat! Looking forward to chat about mentoring and coaching tonight. Hope everyone is doing well
8:32 PM lrnchat Any first-time #lrnchatters tonight? Please say hi. Ask for help if you need it. #lrnchat
8:32 PM AdamTilted Adam from Houston. Public speaking coach and comms consultant. And I’m a space nut. #lrnchat
8:32 PM ashleyisbell Hello! My name is Ashley and I am currently in my second semester of the teacher ed program. First time here
#lrnchat #rd3600
8:32 PM ziolablu Building a new online doctoral program at my university. Beginning to take shape! #lrnchat
8:32 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat Me from Sydney. Allrounder. Looking forward to tonight’s #lrnchat
8:32 PM ChadSLowry Chad Lowry, Client Education Manager. Working on a new training program for sales reps. #lrnchat
8:32 PM CandiceCPLP Just finished a project TODAY! Glad to have a Friday off. #lrnchat
8:32 PM gorland2 Hi! I’m new to #lrnchat. Will be starting a new job as tech coach next year!
8:33 PM JD_Dillon Howdy #lrnchat! JD in Orlando, FL. Learning geek w/ @Axonify. Talkin’ org knowledge sharing lately. https://t.co/8JZAm8mvSI
8:33 PM lrnchat Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:33 PM write2tg TG from Vancouver BC. Learning and Performance Consultant. Working on performance standards for home inspectors in BC. #lrnchat
8:33 PM DavidnProgress RT @lrnchat: #lrnchat in 30 min! Tonight’s theme: Mentoring and Coaching. Join us for tonight’s chat!
8:33 PM AceThatTest @lrnchat Hi! We are @doctorwhy @PsyDocCindy @DrSmithRIC
We apply cognitive psychology to education – see https://t.co/cc7xOyvOo3 #lrnchat
8:33 PM vidyakumar Hello #lrnchat-ters! Looking forward to the chat.
8:33 PM SimonBlairTrain @ashleyisbell Welcome to the party, Ashley. I should warn you, we can be silly. #lrnchat
8:33 PM CandiceCPLP Candice in Oregon, Learning Architect and general envelope-pusher. #lrnchat
8:33 PM DrJessupS Hi #lrnchat Stephanie from Wisconsin looking forward to another great topic and conversation.
8:34 PM Tracy_Parish Hi #lrnchat great to see you all again. Tracy Parish, ID health care.
8:34 PM b_cuperus Hello, my name is Brett, and this is my first time doing this #lrnchat
8:34 PM jng13e1 hi everyone, first timer as well but excited to be here! #lrnchat
8:34 PM WonderPix Hi there #lrnchat ! Tweeting in from a drizzly Southern Cal and glad it’s almost Friday!
8:34 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:34 PM sofialvilar Hi, my names Sofia, currently taking an education computing course. First time here! #lrnchat
8:34 PM ChadSLowry A0) Leading by example always beats leading by directive. #lrnchat
8:34 PM ziolablu I’m a bit of a space nut myself. But, You’re in a much better location 🙂 #lrnchat https://t.co/D8sQzLwpan
8:34 PM AdamTilted A0) Unfortunately, I’ve learned that there’s still a lot of hate out there #lrnchat #LGBT
8:34 PM Tracy_Parish I learned about an app call Ghostcode. In beta, helps to find folks snapchat id. #lrnchat
8:34 PM gorland2 Q0: learned keyboard shortcuts for YouTube from @ericcurts https://t.co/X9cg9dx5pv #lrnchat
8:34 PM SimonBlairTrain @gorland2 Welcome aboard, Giovanna. We’re glad you joined us. #lrnchat
8:34 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A0) This week I learned that a positive attitude is far more productive than a negative one when enduring work setbacks #lrnchat
8:35 PM ashleyisbell Q0 I learned to get things done early in a semester and not wait until the end :/ @SimonBlairTrain I like silly #lrnchat #rd3600
8:35 PM Tracy_Parish Yes. Very unfortunate. #lrnchat https://t.co/SLrBnos0vs
8:35 PM JD_Dillon A0) Learning new platform features for knowledge sharing and user-generated content – coming VERY soon! 🙂 #lrnchat https://t.co/FbsHtmVvST
8:35 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat Q0) I learned the difference between “Be Good” or “Be Great” https://t.co/mFinL6QfyB Heidi Halverson
8:35 PM write2tg A1) This week, I have been reflecting about the distinction b/w having a job versus doing work. #lrnchat
8:35 PM KathrynMckinney Hello #lrnchat! I am Secondary Ed student at Oklahoma State University.
8:35 PM CandiceCPLP Learned about the Tesla Model 3. Want! Also, when to pick my battles 😉 #lrnchat
8:36 PM kelly_smith01 I learned that clean-up on data migration project is like vacuuming a bird cage 6 times a day #lrnchat
8:36 PM Tracy_Parish I learned a great deal more about ESNs with #ESNchat today. #lrnchat
8:36 PM carlakarijolich A0 learning about fixed and growth mindsets #lrnchat
8:36 PM JD_Dillon WOW! Lots of first time #lrnchat-ers. Welcome all! https://t.co/3WYsmCGxQs
8:36 PM DavidnProgress @KathrynMckinney go Pokes! #lrnchat
8:36 PM CandiceCPLP @write2tg Sounds interesting! Are you enjoying it? #lrnchat
8:36 PM DrJessupS @CandiceCPLP are you thinking about getting a Tesla? #lrnchat
8:36 PM SimonBlairTrain A0: I learned that when the import template says DD/MM/YYYY some people still think MM/DD/YY will be fine. #LMSpains #lrnchat
8:36 PM CandiceCPLP @b_cuperus Hi, Brett. Welcome! #lrnchat
8:36 PM vidyakumar A0) Learned that managing your energy is more imp. than managing your time. #lrnchat
8:37 PM Tracy_Parish RT @MrKMaston: @lrnchat A0) This week I learned that a positive attitude is far more productive than a negative one when enduring work setb…
8:37 PM JeremyDBond Hi, #lrnchat. Education communications professional from CT.
A0) Just learned a lot from a history day contest, on both history & research.
8:37 PM carlakarijolich Carla in Chicago. Trainer/instructional designer #lrnchat
8:37 PM ziolablu A0) A fumbled web conference is a great time to talk about the upsides and downsides of sync. online learning 🙂 #lrnchat
8:37 PM write2tg @AdamTilted So what’s your take on job vs. work? #lrnchat
8:37 PM JeremyDBond @vidyakumar yes!! #lrnchat
8:38 PM jng13e1 @vidyakumar I can second that lol #lrnchat
8:38 PM MrKMaston RT @vidyakumar: A0) Learned that managing your energy is more imp. than managing your time. #lrnchat
8:38 PM JeremyDBond @SimonBlairTrain we blasted Americans. #lrnchat
8:38 PM KathrynMckinney I learned it is difficult for students to learn in an uncomfortable environment such as a classroom with no AC. #lrnchat
8:38 PM ziolablu Oooh. Me too. On both points. #lrnchat https://t.co/vlcR09ehjD
8:38 PM AdamTilted I think I’ve decided that if it feels like work, I need a new job. #lrnchat https://t.co/9CRrIzmHIe
8:38 PM write2tg @CandiceCPLP Very much Candice. My take: Jobs will be done by machine. Work will be done by us and that’s where we will add value. #lrnchat
8:39 PM JeremyDBond @jng13e1 welcome! glad you’re here. #lrnchat
8:39 PM lrnchat Q1) What are the differences between mentoring and coaching? #lrnchat
8:39 PM SimonBlairTrain @write2tg @CandiceCPLP Sounds like the “vocation” vs “avocation” distinction. #lrnchat
8:39 PM b_cuperus @lrnchat I learned that working a week ahead on homework can make one feel very accomplished #lrnchat
8:39 PM ChadSLowry @carlakarijolich Hi, fellow Chicagoan! #lrnchat
8:40 PM ashleyisbell A1) Coaching is more about the content and mentoring is about you as a person and who you want/need to be #lrnchat #rd3600
8:40 PM JD_Dillon A1) Coaching takes place one time based on single action. Mentoring is an ongoing relationship. #lrnchat https://t.co/tnDnQbO9z3
8:40 PM WonderPix A1) Mentoring seems more long term, goal driven. Coaching seems task specific #lrnchat
8:40 PM write2tg @AdamTilted Isn’t that an interesting way to look at jobs vs work. Here’s what I was thinking about https://t.co/euk75z8DX2 #lrnchat
8:40 PM gorland2 Q1 I’ve never considered this question before. Will have to consider. Interested in what others think. #lrnchat
8:40 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are the differences between mentoring and coaching? #lrnchat
8:40 PM AdamTilted A1) IMO, A mentor is more of a resource and a coach is more of an active developer. #lrnchat
8:41 PM ChadSLowry A1) You have to coach, but you choose to mentor. #lrnchat
8:41 PM carlakarijolich @write2tg @CandiceCPLP I’ve been reading about this in my class! Trying to develop skills that can’t be done by a machine #lrnchat
8:41 PM vidyakumar A1) For one, coaching is for a specific purpose / skill, mentoring is about the overall personality. #lrnchat
8:41 PM JD_Dillon A1) Coaching has a HORRIBLE reputation in the workplace. Mentoring is respected + sought after. #lrnchat https://t.co/tnDnQbO9z3
8:41 PM ziolablu A1) I’ve always thought mentoring=being available; coaching=looking for areas for improvement. #lrnchat
8:41 PM JeremyDBond A1) I think of #mentoring as broader than #coaching, which implies assistance in a certain area. #Mentorship is long-term guidance. #lrnchat
8:41 PM ZakiaRinggold a0) I learned it’s much better to have a success list instead of a to-do list #lrnchat
8:41 PM JD_Dillon A1) Coaches are assigned. Mentors are chosen. #lrnchat
8:41 PM vidyakumar A1) Mentoring – ongoing, coaching – fixed time. #lrnchat
8:42 PM CandiceCPLP A1) Entirely depends on context, I think. There’s a Venn, tho both are meant to help another adapt and thrive. #lrnchat
8:42 PM write2tg A1) Coaching is more tactical. Mentoring is more strategic. #lrnchat
8:42 PM AdamTilted A1) If I hire a coach, I’m expecting some specific direction. A mentor is more like Obi-wan. Points the way, but leaves it to you #lrnchat
8:42 PM write2tg RT @JD_Dillon: A1) Coaches are assigned. Mentors are chosen. #lrnchat
8:42 PM JD_Dillon A1) Coaching is about correction. Mentoring is about exploration. #lrnchat
8:42 PM ziolablu A1) The distinction being whether you offer your advice solicited v. unsolicited. #lrnchat
8:42 PM btopro RT @JD_Dillon: A0) Learning new platform features for knowledge sharing and user-generated content – coming VERY soon! 🙂 #lrnchat https:/…
8:42 PM carlakarijolich Mentoring = informal, developmental, coaching = also developmental, a professional engagement, forward looking and goal oriented #lrnchat
8:42 PM Tracy_Parish Not necessarily in a work environment. Often mentors are paired up with mentees like a “dating service”. #lrnchat https://t.co/Bzqv0C7bWg
8:42 PM vidyakumar A1) Coaching is more structured than mentoring, which can be a bit informal and adhoc. #lrnchat
8:43 PM SimonBlairTrain @JeremyDBond I like that! So coaching is more task-oriented and mentoring is more person-oriented? #lrnchat
8:43 PM AdamTilted Well said. Too bad you couldn’t get a Star Wars reference in there, though 😉 #lrnchat https://t.co/xFe6NBJSSW
8:43 PM JD_Dillon @Tracy_Parish I wouldn’t really call that mentoring – more like a long-term coach. #lrnchat
8:43 PM JeremyDBond @JD_Dillon interesting. It shouldn’t have that negative connotation, but I understand how we got there. #lrnchat
8:43 PM SimonBlairTrain @JD_Dillon Where do volunteers fit in? #lrnchat
8:43 PM btopro A0) I learned that there’s nothing I am incapable of with a deep enough breathe, coffee, clarity, positive team, and time. #lrnchat
8:44 PM carlakarijolich Coaching can involve assessment tools like the hogan assessment where mentoring is more informal #lrnchat
8:44 PM CandiceCPLP What I mean by context: where I work, both are ongoing, the relationship is just different. #lrnchat https://t.co/mZ6llcT6Nq
8:44 PM b_cuperus Coaching is about developing a particular area while mentoring is about improving as a whole #lrnchat
8:44 PM ZakiaRinggold Coaching looks to pull out what’s already there. Mentoring helps to guide #lrnchat
8:44 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat A1) Mentoring is a “tell/model” – Coaching is an “ask” both move someone forward, contribute to succession and develop strengths.
8:44 PM CT_blog A1) Mentors give answers, coaches ask questions #lrnchat https://t.co/NEBQC7DdAB
8:44 PM kelly_smith01 Q1) Coaching is on a “as needed” basis. Mentoring is a long-term plan possibly with an agenda #lrnchat
8:44 PM JD_Dillon A1) Mentor #lrnchat https://t.co/fmmGtKbbW8
8:44 PM JeremyDBond @vidyakumar similar to my thoughts… though in the back of my mind I remembered we have “life coaches.” #lrnchat
8:44 PM AceThatTest Teachers – how can we (researchers) be more helpful to you?
What kind of research would you like to read about, or be involved in?
#lrnchat
8:44 PM btopro RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are the differences between mentoring and coaching? #lrnchat
8:45 PM CandiceCPLP Yes, like behavioral & people skills 😉#lrnchat https://t.co/s56wfVPFsJ
8:45 PM KathrynMckinney A1) Coaches encourage improvement for a specific skill while mentors choose to help in many areas. #lrnchat
8:45 PM AdamTilted Unless he’s strapped to your back and making you run. Then, maybe a coach. #lrnchat https://t.co/rNSLlOEuMO
8:45 PM ziolablu Yes, in K12 our district assigned a mentor. #lrnchat https://t.co/Xp8AFkXK9b
8:45 PM JD_Dillon @SimonBlairTrain Typically on the mentor side in workplace #lrnchat
8:45 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A1) I’ve found mentors to be sharers of wisdom and experience, and coaches to be facilitators/guides for performance #lrnchat
8:45 PM write2tg RT @CT_blog: A1) Mentors give answers, coaches ask questions #lrnchat https://t.co/NEBQC7DdAB
8:45 PM btopro A1) when I mentor I offer advice. When I coach, I manipulate / poke / prod via suggestion to help someone achieve the best them #lrnchat
8:45 PM write2tg RT @MrKMaston: @lrnchat A1) I’ve found mentors to be sharers of wisdom and experience, and coaches to be facilitators/guides for performanc…
8:45 PM reward75 RT @MrKMaston A1) I’ve found mentors to be sharers of wisdom and experience, and coaches to be facilitators/guides for performance #lrnchat
8:45 PM JD_Dillon A1) Coach #lrnchat https://t.co/gz6zAkJJAJ
8:46 PM JeremyDBond @ChadSLowry good distinction from the point of view of the coach/mentor. Wonder if it’s seen the same way from the coached/mentee. #lrnchat
8:46 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat A1) the mentee owns the agenda – a coach does not have an agenda
8:46 PM vidyakumar @JeremyDBond Hmmm point to ponder. But isn’t that also about a specific skill – ‘life’? #lrnchat
8:46 PM write2tg A1) With mentoring, the focus is on the individual. Coaching focuses on performance. #lrnchat
8:46 PM AdamTilted I think that’s a common prob. Many expect a mentor to be a coach. #lrnchat https://t.co/JvlGclIq1H
8:46 PM carlakarijolich @CT_blog coaching involves helping someone see the gap between their goals and current abilities. Good questions help! #lrnchat
8:46 PM OU812Jensen RT @MrKMaston: @lrnchat A1) I’ve found mentors to be sharers of wisdom and experience, and coaches to be facilitators/guides for performanc…
8:46 PM reward75 A1) They are not distinct. A good mentor can coach as well. #lrnchat
8:47 PM lrnchat Q2) Have you ever seen a successful mentoring or coaching relationship? What made it work? #lrnchat
8:47 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lrnchat: Q2) Have you ever seen a successful mentoring or coaching relationship? What made it work? #lrnchat
8:47 PM ChadSLowry @JeremyDBond I think that depends in large part on the attitude of the person doing the coaching. #lrnchat
8:47 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q2) Have you ever seen a successful mentoring or coaching relationship? What made it work? #lrnchat
8:47 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lrnchat Q2) Have you ever seen a successful mentoring or coaching relationship? What made it work? #lrnchat
8:47 PM jng13e1 Q1) mentoring is a relationship, coaching is an instruction #lrnchat
8:47 PM JeremyDBond @SimonBlairTrain that sounds about right. #lrnchat
8:47 PM AdamTilted A2) I’ve been on both ends and it all comes down to trust in the end. #lrnchat
8:48 PM kelly_smith01 Mentor is a guide and will eventually fade as the mentee assumes accountability. #lrnchat
8:48 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat A2) successful mentoring is the result of having clear outcomes, formalized approach and clarity around roles of mentor and mentee
8:48 PM CandiceCPLP Absolutely! #lrnchat https://t.co/Iqva23E5mt
8:48 PM write2tg A2) What makes a mentoring or coaching relationship work? Clear expectations, mutual trust and respect. #lrnchat
8:48 PM ChadSLowry A2) We use call coaching all the time for our Product Support Reps. Makes a huge difference for them. #lrnchat
8:48 PM ashleyisbell A2) Yes! The knowledge of the coach and the respect she has for the teachers that she is coaching. #lrnchat #rd3600
8:48 PM btopro RT @lrnchat: Q2) Have you ever seen a successful mentoring or coaching relationship? What made it work? #lrnchat
8:48 PM gorland2 Q2 I think the relationship between the people is key #lrnchat
8:48 PM ZakiaRinggold A2) for coaching and mentoring to be successful both parties must be vested #lrnchat
8:48 PM CT_blog A2. Humility & commitment from everyone involved. #lrnchat https://t.co/rPvDW2x4Ag
8:48 PM AdamTilted You also can’t coach someone who doesn’t want to be coached. No matter how much they pay. #lrnchat
8:48 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat A2) in order for someone to be coached they must be coachable, there must be trust and rapport and the coachee owns the actions.
8:48 PM DrJessupS A2) Trust, good communication and a common goal are all important to make a the relationship work. #lrnchat
8:49 PM JeremyNegrey Hey #lrnchat! Jeremy, e-learning team leader @onbase, checking in from Cleveland, OH USA!
8:49 PM ziolablu A2) I’ve certainly never been part of one. My experience as a paired mentor and mentee in K12 was less than stellar. #lrnchat
8:49 PM JD_Dillon A2) Sure – more coaching than mentoring. Trust. Credibility. Proactive receiver open to feedback. #lrnchat https://t.co/Rc95B3itXR
8:49 PM CandiceCPLP A2) yes, when all parties take it seriously and are willing to do the work necessary. #lrnchat
8:49 PM Tracy_Parish I agree, but can you elaborate on Trust?. #lrnchat https://t.co/fpy95IAbIB
8:49 PM kregerck Late to #lrnchat!
8:49 PM ChadSLowry A2) What makes it work is that the Reps know it will be taking place, and know how their improvement will be measured. #lrnchat
8:49 PM ziolablu A2) I’ve also never done well with personal trainers 🙂 #lrnchat
8:49 PM DavidnProgress @lrnchat Q1 #lrnchat my mentor brings a big picture perspective that goes beyond career and looks at the full picture of my life
8:49 PM PML33T A2: @DFSWest has amazing program that helps mentor/ee put a lot of structure, expectations into place early #lrnchat https://t.co/rzJPNiCASQ
8:49 PM btopro A2) genuine respect and being humble by both parties to give and receive advisement from a peer. #lrnchat
8:49 PM SimonBlairTrain A2: The mentor’s willingness to let the mentee drive (and to get out of the way when not needed) is a huge help. #lrnchat
8:49 PM write2tg RT @btopro A2) genuine respect and being humble by both parties to give and receive advisement from a peer. #lrnchat
8:49 PM JD_Dillon A2) For coaching to work failure must be viewed as learning opportunity within org culture, not just a punitive step. #lrnchat
8:49 PM carlakarijolich A2 a certain amount of expertise helps. For mentors it was expertise in our field. Coaches: how to help me move towards goals. #lrnchat
8:49 PM jng13e1 Q2) patience, encouragement, and believing in the learner made it successful #lrnchat
8:50 PM JeremyDBond @ChadSLowry good point! That distinction might be less significant for them; it might be more about feeling positive or negative. #lrnchat
8:50 PM AdamTilted You need to allow vulnerability in order to make progress. That takes trust on both sides. @Tracy_Parish #lrnchat
8:50 PM ChadSLowry @JaneBozarth Welcome! #lrnchat
8:50 PM kelly_smith01 #2) I have been a successful coach (or I believe I have) and have helped design a mentoring program #lrnchat
8:50 PM AdamTilted yep #lrnchat https://t.co/UDnYnfx8AY
8:50 PM carlakarijolich A2 being open and humble counts. You have to be willing to accept feedback, even when it’s hard to listen to #lrnchat
8:50 PM StyleLearn A2) Yoda vs Pat Riley? #lrnchat
8:50 PM eLearninCyclops RT @StyleLearn A2) Yoda vs Pat Riley? #lrnchat
8:50 PM write2tg A2) Coaching and mentoring is not always about having a formal system in place. It needs openness and humility. #lrnchat
8:50 PM AdamTilted RT @JD_Dillon: A2) For coaching to work failure must be viewed as learning opportunity within org culture, not just a punitive step. #lrnch…
8:51 PM JeremyDBond @AdamTilted @ChadSLowry or vice versa. It may help to establish the nature of the relationship. #lrnchat
8:51 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A2) For me, a cabal of individuals who are approachable, receptive, and engage informally have been successful as mentors #lrnchat
8:51 PM gorland2 @PML33T Is there documentation you could share? #lrnchat
8:51 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat A2) a coaching relationship needs to be clearly defined with a contract for desired outcomes.
8:51 PM DavidnProgress RT @lrnchat: Q2) Have you ever seen a successful mentoring or coaching relationship? What made it work? #lrnchat
8:51 PM carlakarijolich A2 good coaches have helped me challenge my assumptions #lrnchat
8:51 PM ziolablu I’d argue that I never really shy away from work and openly communicate. I’ve never found a “good match.” #lrnchat https://t.co/rOhdv6GRYe
8:51 PM kregerck RT @JD_Dillon: A2) For coaching to work failure must be viewed as learning opportunity within org culture, not just a punitive step. #lrnch…
8:51 PM JeremyDBond @vidyakumar true! And life coaches do have specific goals in mind — often related to career. #lrnchat
8:52 PM kelly_smith01 Q2) The mentoring program I worked on had specific goals – CDL truck drivers. #lrnchat
8:52 PM b_cuperus (Q2) patience, trust, respect, and both sides feeling comfortable around each other #lrnchat
8:52 PM vidyakumar A2) For coaching, its more the coach’s knowledge of the skill, while mentoring is a two-way street. #lrnchat
8:52 PM KathrynMckinney @KathrynMckinney #lrnchat
8:52 PM LnDDave Greetings #lrnchat! David from NY, checking in. Hope everyone is well.
8:52 PM kregerck RT @DavidnProgress: @lrnchat Q1 #lrnchat my mentor brings a big picture perspective that goes beyond career and looks at the full picture o…
8:53 PM carlakarijolich @SimonBlairTrain good mentoring has emergent qualities. The relationship can grow in unexpected ways. #lrnchat
8:53 PM margiemeacham #lrnchat Hi all. Sorry I’m late. Just finished a round of golf. Gotta have priorities. 🙂 https://t.co/xJUA3baWo8
8:53 PM kregerck RT @write2tg: A2) What makes a mentoring or coaching relationship work? Clear expectations, mutual trust and respect. #lrnchat
8:53 PM JeremyNegrey @gorland2 hey Giovanna! Welcome to #lrnchat 😀
8:53 PM CandiceCPLP A2) I believe that a good coach or mentor also must have a customer service mentality. It’s not about ego. #lrnchat
8:53 PM ziolablu @CandiceCPLP There certainly is 😉 Not for lack of trying, or trust, or communication though. So what is it? #lrnchat
8:53 PM CandiceCPLP @LnDDave Hi, Dave! #lrnchat
8:54 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat A2) leader as coach can happen in the moment by asking questions vs. rescue fixing solving & saving- the individual knows what 2 do
8:54 PM BigRoarCreative RT @JD_Dillon: A1) Coaching is about correction. Mentoring is about exploration. #lrnchat
8:54 PM LnDDave A2) The most successful coaching relationships I’ve been involved in had value for both the coach and the person being coached. #lrnchat
8:54 PM SimonBlairTrain @JaneBozarth Like a soundtrack or like the playable audio on some Wikipedia pages? #lrnchat
8:54 PM lrnchat Q3) Who should choose the mentor/coach, the mentee/coachee or the organization? More importantly, Why? #lrnchat
8:54 PM JeremyNegrey A2) coaching is aimed at developing a specific skill. Mentoring is developing a range of skills-it’s more personal. #lrnchat
8:55 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lrnchat Q3) Who should choose the mentor/coach, the mentee/coachee or the organization? More importantly, Why? #lrnchat
8:55 PM carlakarijolich @CandiceCPLP coaches can be fired at any time! They have to approach the relationship like a consultant. #lrnchat
8:55 PM JD_Dillon A3) Coach should be chosen by the org – with feedback along way by coachee re: value. #lrnchat https://t.co/0je0am75Ct
8:55 PM write2tg A2) Any relationship, coaching or mentoring, is about give and take. If there’s isn’t something for both parties, it wont work. #lrnchat
8:55 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q3) Who should choose the mentor/coach, the mentee/coachee or the organization? More importantly, Why? #lrnchat
8:56 PM JD_Dillon A3) Mentor should be chosen by the mentee – long-term relationship heavily based on trust + matching style #lrnchat https://t.co/0je0am75Ct
8:56 PM AdamTilted A3) Best case: the mentee chooses. It’s her development. She should pick one she feels comfortable with and wants to learn from #lrnchat
8:56 PM gorland2 Q3 Mutually agreed upon by mentor/mentee would start things off positively. #lrnchat
8:56 PM carlakarijolich A3 I like when mentoring is organic. With a coach I’d like to shop around. The org picking one for you changes the dynamic #lrnchat
8:56 PM SimonBlairTrain A3: The org should ID potential coaches (i.e. who has the skills), but the mentee should be able to pick their own (or have a veto) #lrnchat
8:56 PM CandiceCPLP A3) Again, it depends on context. Me tee/coachee may not know who is available. #lrnchat
8:56 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A3) tricky q! Contextual. Encouraged to seek coach/mentor out, and guided by ldrship in org to help if req. (lack of xp) #lrnchat
8:56 PM margiemeacham A3 #lrnchat Because it is such a personal and intimate relationship, I think coach and mentee should find each other.
8:56 PM LnDDave RT @lrnchat: Q3) Who should choose the mentor/coach, the mentee/coachee or the organization? More importantly, Why? #lrnchat
8:56 PM kregerck RT @write2tg: A2) Any relationship, coaching or mentoring, is about give and take. If there’s isn’t something for both parties, it wont wor…
8:56 PM ashleyisbell A3) A mentor should be chosen by the mentee but a coach should be chosen by the organization #lrnchat #rd3600
8:56 PM carlakarijolich A3 although an org can use its resources to connect you with someone you otherwise might it know, which could be great #lrnchat
8:56 PM kregerck RT @carlakarijolich: @CandiceCPLP coaches can be fired at any time! They have to approach the relationship like a consultant. #lrnchat
8:56 PM ChadSLowry A3) Org chooses and directs the coach, but mentor chooses whom and how to mentor. #lrnchat
8:56 PM kregerck RT @JeremyNegrey: A2) coaching is aimed at developing a specific skill. Mentoring is developing a range of skills-it’s more personal. #lrnc…
8:57 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat A3) it depends, what the desired outcomes are, can b leader driven or individual, engagement in the process belongs with the person
8:57 PM AdamTilted A2) 2nd best: Mentor offers to guide mentee b/c sees potential for growth. #lrnchat
8:57 PM DrJessupS A3) I think the mentee should chose because the relationship is key. Organization may offer suggestions especially for new hires. #lrnchat
8:57 PM jng13e1 Q3) the learner should be choosing the mentor/coach, the system only works both ways if there is cooperation between the two #lrnchat
8:57 PM SimonBlairTrain A3 (ctd): The org knows who has the knowledge, but only the mentee can select for personality compatibility. #lrnchat
8:57 PM write2tg @JaneBozarth That’s interesting. How did the matching characteristics go? Did they use any specific system or was it informal? #lrnchat
8:57 PM eLearninCyclops Q3) Best is often not planned – Relationship that develops over time. Both have to be dedicated and willing to invest a lot #lrnchat
8:57 PM JeremyDBond A3) Self-directed choice, just as the best learning is. Because independence is the ultimate goal. #lrnchat https://t.co/tT2Xgumrb7
8:57 PM margiemeacham @ashleyisbell #lrnchat Interesting distinction. Makes sense.
8:57 PM PML33T .@gorland2 @lrnchat Here’s one doc sample. Wk over wk status updates w/ progress. Was good jump off point #lrnchat https://t.co/C4u2PzFPpF
8:57 PM vidyakumar A3) Coaches, since they’re for specific skills, should be chosen by the org. #lrnchat
8:58 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat A3) important to have a good match coach/mentor, relationship is key to individual showing up and being genuine.
8:58 PM pixlz RT @CT_blog: A1) Mentors give answers, coaches ask questions #lrnchat https://t.co/NEBQC7DdAB
8:58 PM write2tg A3) I think we should choose our own mentors. But organization may choose our coaches since its about skills. #lrnchat
8:58 PM vidyakumar A3) Mentors are automatically picked by mentees, irrespective of whether a mentoring program exists or not. #lrnchat
8:58 PM StyleLearn A3) The mentor/coach should choose because of the commitment involved. #lrnchat https://t.co/SFgo0qVaLk
8:58 PM PsyDocCindy RT @AceThatTest: @lrnchat Hi! We are @doctorwhy @PsyDocCindy @DrSmithRIC
We apply cognitive psychology to education – see https://t.co/cc7…
8:58 PM reward75 A3) Whatever works for the situation and the people in it. I’ve see successful relationships regardless of who chooses who #lrnchat
8:58 PM JD_Dillon A3) Coaching shouldn’t be based solely on hierarchy. Should match style + experience w/ employee needs. #lrnchat
8:58 PM AdamTilted I used to be forced to match ppl with mentors despite my objections. What a giant failure. #lrnchat
8:58 PM LnDDave A3) It depends a lot on the driver. Whose idea was the relationship in the first place? #lrnchat
8:59 PM PsyDocCindy RT @AceThatTest: Teachers – how can we (researchers) be more helpful to you?
What kind of research would you like to read about, or be inv…
8:59 PM Tracy_Parish RT @AdamTilted: You need to allow vulnerability in order to make progress. That takes trust on both sides. @Tracy_Parish #lrnchat
8:59 PM carlakarijolich @OU812Jensen I like this prospective. Being a good leader will entail discerning what’s appropriate when trying to help someone #lrnchat
8:59 PM gorland2 RT @PML33T: .@gorland2 @lrnchat Here’s one doc sample. Wk over wk status updates w/ progress. Was good jump off point #lrnchat https://t.co…
8:59 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat A3) if not a good mentor match less likely to value and respect the process which impacts learning and impedes development
8:59 PM JD_Dillon A3) Coaching should also be EXPLICITLY part of the coaches job, not an afterthought/add-on bc its convenient for org #lrnchat
8:59 PM vidyakumar RT @JeremyDBond: A3) Self-directed choice, just as the best learning is. Because independence is the ultimate goal. #lrnchat https://t.co/…
8:59 PM ziolablu A3) You have to actively choose a mentor based on your aspirations. Coaches seem situationally dependent. #lrnchat
8:59 PM ZakiaRinggold RT @SimonBlairTrain: A3 (ctd): The org knows who has the knowledge, but only the mentee can select for personality compatibility. #lrnchat
8:59 PM LnDDave A3) While any party may suggest a coach/mentor, I think all parties need to agree on the choice for success. #lrnchat
8:59 PM margiemeacham Of course, sometimes you probably don’t know if its a fit until you give it a try. #lrnchat. https://t.co/Ik1wywu65G
9:00 PM write2tg @JaneBozarth I wonder if mentees can describe WIFM for mentors. Wouldn’t each mentor find and value different things? #lrnchat
9:00 PM SimonBlairTrain @JaneBozarth @write2tg Just curious, was the person asking the potential mentee or a third party? #lrnchat
9:00 PM JeremyNegrey There is a lot of truth in this! Formally or informally, people are always watching! #lrnchat https://t.co/GfSz5Fpgja
9:00 PM JeremyDBond Yes! … And as life is an endless series of both questions and answers, we need both kinds. #lrnchat https://t.co/fKYzUXmpre
9:01 PM CandiceCPLP Yes, and less likely to try again. We’ve all had those experiences! #lrnchat https://t.co/Y2iOvO0Fpy
9:01 PM SimonBlairTrain @JaneBozarth I hear that! I tried recording my first “talking head” video last week. I couldn’t bear to watch it! #lrnchat
9:01 PM write2tg @jng13e1 You bet. Sometimes we feel stuck. But we all know it is better to walk away when you can #lrnchat
9:01 PM jng13e1 @write2tg and there is nothing wrong with leaving a relationship when nothing is benefitting both #lrnchat
9:01 PM KathrynMckinney A3) I think the mentee should choose based on their previous experience and respect with that mentor/coach. #lrnchat
9:01 PM carlakarijolich @JD_Dillon and there should be clear links to the developmental goals in the coaching work. #lrnchat
9:01 PM lrnchat Q4) How do mentoring and coaching support reflective learning? #lrnchat
9:01 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do mentoring and coaching support reflective learning? #lrnchat
9:02 PM JeremyNegrey A3) The mentee chooses; 1st, they must be open to being mentored. You can take a horse to water but can’t make it drink! #lrnchat
9:02 PM JeremyDBond Sometimes a mentor is our only hope. #lrnchat https://t.co/IifAMGUdhC
9:02 PM kregerck RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do mentoring and coaching support reflective learning? #lrnchat
9:02 PM CosmoCat RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do mentoring and coaching support reflective learning? #lrnchat
9:02 PM ziolablu Good point. It certainly is a time commitment. #lrnchat https://t.co/b28h5Xv0TC
9:02 PM JD_Dillon A4) Coaching process should recall the specific event + raise questions re: preferred action/outcome #lrnchat https://t.co/nsy7ENiAtM
9:02 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat A4) they can if reflection is encouraged and part of the process – a good coach will leave an individual with a inquiry or request
9:02 PM carlakarijolich A4 anytime someone can help you gain insight into your blind spots, you prime yourself for better reflection #lrnchat
9:03 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do mentoring and coaching support reflective learning? #lrnchat
9:03 PM AdamTilted A4) It’s helpful to have someone else giving you regular feedback towards a specific purpose. #lrnchat
9:03 PM margiemeacham A4 I think all #learning has a component of #reflection in it. That’s how we internalize what we’ve learned. #lrnchat
9:03 PM SimonBlairTrain @JaneBozarth @write2tg Sounds like those people on LinkedIn who want to connect just to add another notch to their belts. #lrnchat
9:03 PM gorland2 Q4 by building in the expectation, time & a person to work through thoughts #lrnchat
9:03 PM ChadSLowry A4) Coaching requires participants to acknowledge how they could’ve improved their performance. #lrnchat
9:03 PM JD_Dillon A4) Mentoring should dig deeper into experience/reflection to identify desired path and long-term outcomes #lrnchat https://t.co/nsy7ENiAtM
9:03 PM JeremyNegrey RT @ziolablu: A3) You have to actively choose a mentor based on your aspirations. Coaches seem situationally dependent. #lrnchat
9:03 PM CandiceCPLP A4) good coaches expect meta-thinking, to understand motivations. #lrnchat
9:03 PM write2tg A4) A mentee sets an agenda and goals for the relationship. Mentoring starts with reflection and moves to learning. #lrnchat
9:03 PM carlakarijolich A4 coaching that’s uses scientifically valid assessments can be helpful too. #lrnchat
9:03 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat A4) a good mentor will ask the individual to reflect on how the experience can serve them, what they’re prepared to do differently.
9:03 PM AdamTilted You also a bound to be more conscious of what you are doing if a coach is watching. #lrnchat
9:03 PM LnDDave @jeremynegrey There’s always plenty new at the Guild. 🙂 #lrnchat https://t.co/xw0BbyTEkp
9:03 PM PML33T .@gorland2 @lrnchat the @DFSWest program is extremely well put togthr. Indv Q&As, intros, progress docs, exit docs. Serious biz 🙂 #Lrnchat
9:04 PM carlakarijolich RT @CandiceCPLP: A4) good coaches expect meta-thinking, to understand motivations. #lrnchat
9:04 PM ashleyisbell A4) shows that the teacher is using all resources to give the best lesson possible #lrnchat #rd3600
9:04 PM LnDDave RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do mentoring and coaching support reflective learning? #lrnchat
9:04 PM LnDDave A4) Good coaches don’t tell; they help you connect the dots on your own. #lrnchat
9:04 PM vidyakumar A4) A good mentor-mentee relationship should support reflective learning for both. #lrnchat
9:04 PM margiemeacham @AdamTilted #lrnchat I’m a terrible coachee. When I take golf lessons for example, I get so focused on mechanics I can’t move. Typical?
9:05 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A4) Mentor: By asking you to share your experiences and following up with gentle but probing questions. No time pressure #lrnchat
9:05 PM JeremyNegrey A3 continued) 2nd-the mentee must find someone they want to learn from. Of course, the mentor must be open to it as well. #lrnchat
9:05 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat A4) a coach helps ind. seek deeper understanding of what it is they’re really wanting,what shows up on the surface usually isn’t it
9:05 PM kelly_smith01 RT @LnDDave: A4) Good coaches don’t tell; they help you connect the dots on your own. #lrnchat
9:05 PM ziolablu A4) The mentor/coach can lead the reflection. While your diving into something new it’s not intuitive to step back and think. #lrnchat
9:05 PM audioswhite A3) have successfully been mentor and mentee, roles developed organically, through relationship building. No formal declaration #lrnchat
9:06 PM JeremyNegrey @JeremyDBond @AdamTilted no…there is another. 😀 #lrnchat
9:06 PM AdamTilted You need a better coach 😉 That’s not unusual, but a good coach would be on the lookout for that. #lrnchat https://t.co/d9pfgj8W5D
9:06 PM margiemeacham #lrnchat For example, we just released videos of keynotes and others from #LSCon. Great conference, as always. https://t.co/CQMhSITXnU
9:06 PM vidyakumar A4) Good, long, deep conversations always promote reflective learning. #lrnchat
9:06 PM JD_Dillon A4) Coaching is very specific, doesn’t over-rely on questions/reflection. Targeted questions, specific feedback, measured outcome. #lrnchat
9:06 PM LnDDave A4) I don’t think good coaching supports reflective learning; I think good coaching IS reflective learning. #lrnchat
9:07 PM AdamTilted RT @LnDDave: A4) I don’t think good coaching supports reflective learning; I think good coaching IS reflective learning. #lrnchat
9:07 PM vidyakumar @JeremyNegrey Right. I can’t count the # of mentors I’ve had in my life. #lrnchat
9:07 PM write2tg A4) Coaches focus on skills. I personally feel there is less reflection but definitely more feedback along that route. #lrnchat
9:07 PM JD_Dillon Good managers are not necessarily good coaches … and are very often not good mentors. #lrnchat
9:07 PM carlakarijolich RT @LnDDave: A4) I don’t think good coaching supports reflective learning; I think good coaching IS reflective learning. #lrnchat
9:08 PM jng13e1 Q4) a mentor will go deeper into the expectations and the reasons by relating it to the learner #lrnchat
9:08 PM kregerck RT @LnDDave: A4) I don’t think good coaching supports reflective learning; I think good coaching IS reflective learning. #lrnchat
9:08 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat A4) both contribute to the 70% of where we learn OTJ from others and through reflection
9:08 PM MrKMaston Can attest to this. Good phone chats or going out for coffee with “mentors” #lrnchat https://t.co/CM6ytFA4L1
9:08 PM lrnchat Q5) Is learning a natural result of mentoring/coaching, or does there need to be a specific focus on learning? Why? #lrnchat
9:08 PM reward75 A4) A coach mentee should help you consider “What could I have done better?” or “How can I do better?” ie reflect #lrnchat
9:08 PM write2tg A4) With mentors, I find myself talking about the universe! Conversations are deeper and reflective. They linger. #lrnchat
9:09 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q5) Is learning a natural result of mentoring/coaching, or does there need to be a specific focus on learning? Why? #lrnchat
9:09 PM margiemeacham @LnDDave A4 #lrnchat – I’ll go even further – All #learning is reflective. That’s where your #brain does the encoding] for long-term memory
9:09 PM ZakiaRinggold a4)If crafted correctly both the coach and coached mentor and mentee grow from the experience through reflection #lrnchat
9:09 PM gorland2 @MrKMaston I’m going for coffee with @AnnRad21 this weekend. She has the same position that I’ll have next year! Can’t wait. #lrnchat
9:09 PM SimonBlairTrain @write2tg @JaneBozarth Maybe not. When I mentored another software developer, for me it was a reminder of my previous L&D role. #lrnchat
9:09 PM AdamTilted A5) It’s possible, but without a goal who knows? And why bother? #lrnchat
9:09 PM carlakarijolich @write2tg I think it depends on the models the coach uses. Some coaching models are highly reflective #lrnchat
9:09 PM LnDDave @JD_Dillon I’d argue that a lot of people viewed as good managers are also not… good managers. #lrnchat
9:09 PM JD_Dillon A5) Not always “learning” as typically understood, esp. w/ mentoring. Can be evolution or realization. #lrnchat https://t.co/RN4LPS9Pam
9:09 PM b_cuperus (Q3) I think that the organization should suggest people to be the mentor, but the mentee should make the final decision #lrnchat
9:09 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q5) Is learning a natural result of mentoring/coaching, or does there need to be a specific focus on learning? Why? #lrnchat
9:10 PM LnDDave RT @lrnchat: Q5) Is learning a natural result of mentoring/coaching, or does there need to be a specific focus on learning? Why? #lrnchat
9:10 PM vidyakumar @MrKMaston Or even by the water cooler? #lrnchat
9:10 PM CandiceCPLP have always thought of a mentor as someone who introduces u to what u don’t know, and coach helps u change something u do. #lrnchat
9:10 PM KathrynMckinney A4) A mentor should ask the individual to reflect upon experiences and how it changed their perspective and why. #lrnchat
9:10 PM margiemeacham #lrnchat It may be a natural result of effective mentoring or coaching, but #learning is never a given. Learners must actively participate.
9:10 PM JD_Dillon @LnDDave well there’s always that … and we can go down the manager does not equal leader path too 🙂 #lrnchat
9:10 PM gorland2 RT @margiemeacham: #lrnchat It may be a natural result of effective mentoring or coaching, but #learning is never a given. Learners must ac…
9:10 PM ChadSLowry A5) Don’t think you ever want to leave learning to chance. Also, important to have those being coached recognize their progress. #lrnchat
9:10 PM DrJessupS A5) Yes because the outcome of coaching/mentoring is growth and growth requires learning. #lrnchat
9:10 PM ziolablu A5) Learning is a part of any relationship. #lrnchat
9:11 PM ashleyisbell A5) No, reflection on the coaching is important and then putting it into practice #lrnchat #rd3600
9:11 PM carlakarijolich A4 I’m a believer that a learning goal is necessary to guide the relationship, but I’m also open to serendipity #lrnchat
9:11 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat A5) in coaching we learn a deeper understanding of our authentic self, beliefs values, assumptions, inner critic & how it shows up
9:11 PM kelly_smith01 Q5) There should not be a primary focus on learning although the result may be learning #lrnchat
9:11 PM CandiceCPLP One would hope so. Otherwise, it’s a waste of time and energy. #lrnchat https://t.co/cAytVZJ20d
9:11 PM write2tg @carlakarijolich Perhaps. And also the kind of skills you are trying to target. #lrnchat
9:11 PM KathrynMckinney @DavidnProgress I agree! Some of the best lessons learned are through experience, reflection, and growth. #lrnchat
9:11 PM carlakarijolich @AdamTilted agreed! That’s like baking a cake without the goal is making it tasty! #lrnchat
9:11 PM ZakiaRinggold @b_cuperus what should the mentee base their decision on?#lrnchat
9:11 PM JD_Dillon A5) Goal isn’t always “to learn” – more like improving performance (coaching) or understanding/path/mindset (mentoring) #lrnchat
9:11 PM write2tg A5) Wish there was someway to point to a single thing that causes ‘learning’. Anything and everything impacts it! #lrnchat
9:12 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A5) Depends on the efficacy of the mentor/coach. Mentorship is not just about learning. Also about connection. #lrnchat
9:12 PM LnDDave A5) I often feel too narrow a focus on learning can shift the conversation away from true learning and more towards teaching. #lrnchat
9:12 PM b_cuperus @lrnchat (A4) the mentee shares experiences and the mentor asks follow up questions, so they both reflect on the experiences #lrnchat
9:12 PM write2tg MT @LnDDave A5) too narrow a focus on learning can shift the conversation away from true learning and more towards teaching. #lrnchat
9:12 PM vidyakumar A5) Learning is important, but the focus of mentoring/coaching is, rightly, on performance, the holy grail of the L&D industry. #lrnchat
9:12 PM JeremyNegrey A5) Learning is a natural consequence of mentor/mentee relationship. Engaging opens you to feedback, reflection & growth (learning) #lrnchat
9:12 PM JD_Dillon A5) Learning is inevitable part of the process, a step towards something more meaningful/tangible/measurable #lrnchat
9:12 PM AdamTilted Good point. #lrnchat https://t.co/5mTalcggGg
9:13 PM carlakarijolich @MrKMaston very true. It’s not purely a professional relationship. #lrnchat
9:13 PM LnDDave A5) If learning isn’t a natural part of the process, then the mentoring/coaching isn’t really effective. #lrnchat
9:13 PM SimonBlairTrain @JaneBozarth @write2tg More fools them! The trick to picking YOUR brain is to read what you’ve already written. 🙂 #WOL #lrnchat
9:13 PM jng13e1 Q5)A mentor/coach can help set up the goals but the learner is in fact learning from their own mistakes as they aim for achievement #lrnchat
9:13 PM CT_blog A5. If learning is not occurring, mentoring is not occurring. Learning IS the outcome by definition. #lrnchat https://t.co/cMgJWDH0qW
9:13 PM JeremyNegrey @margiemeacham but aren’t you engaging by definition if you are in a mentoring relationship? #lrnchat
9:13 PM gorland2 RT @CT_blog: A5. If learning is not occurring, mentoring is not occurring. Learning IS the outcome by definition. #lrnchat https://t.co/cM…
9:13 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat A5) mentor helps individual transfer knowledge, skills & experiences that provide development opp. 4 individual, provides feedback
9:14 PM SimonBlairTrain @LnDDave If learning isn’t part of the process, aren’t you just two people hanging out and socializing? #JustSaying #lrnchat
9:14 PM reward75 RT @JaneBozarth Funny — the stuff I’d LIKE to mentor someone about is not what they ask for #lrnchat
9:14 PM margiemeacham @jng13e1 Ah, there’s that reflection again. #lrnchat
9:15 PM MrKMaston @vidyakumar Possibly not. It’ll just make me want to pee and end the conversation prematurely 😉 #lrnchat
9:15 PM JeremyDBond RT @LnDDave: A4) I don’t think good coaching supports reflective learning; I think good coaching IS reflective learning. #lrnchat
9:15 PM JeremyNegrey @ashleyisbell yes, but is putting it into practice a requirement for learning? I learned CPR but I don’t practice it daily #lrnchat
9:15 PM lrnchat Q6) Are mentoring / coaching relationships strictly 1:1? Are there ways that mentoring/coaching can be scaled?#lrnchat
9:15 PM carlakarijolich @write2tg yep. reading a book (Immunity to change) & it’s reflection city. improving technical skills 4 example, not so much. #lrnchat
9:15 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat A5) we forget that mentoring is a OJT learning experience and sometimes don’t build structures/processes to support.
9:15 PM write2tg @JaneBozarth @SimonBlairTrain So, as a mentor, should we help them by defining the kind of mentoring useful for them? #lrnchat
9:16 PM LnDDave A5) I’d argue coaching/mentoring always implies learning is needed. If not, you should replace the coach with a job aid. #lrnchat
9:16 PM b_cuperus @lrnchat Learning comes naturally from the experiences and reflection of mentoring #lrnchat
9:16 PM JeremyNegrey @JD_Dillon aren’t those both examples of learning? #lrnchat
9:16 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat: Q6) Are mentoring / coaching relationships strictly 1:1? Are there ways that mentoring/coaching can be scaled?#lrnchat
9:16 PM ChadSLowry A6) I think mentoring works best 1:1, but coaching can be 1:many or many:many. #lrnchat
9:16 PM carlakarijolich RT @LnDDave: A5) I’d argue coaching/mentoring always implies learning is needed. If not, you should replace the coach with a job aid. #lrnc…
9:16 PM write2tg RT @ChadSLowry: A6) I think mentoring works best 1:1, but coaching can be 1:many or many:many. #lrnchat
9:16 PM margiemeacham #lrnchat 🙂 So true. When I was a training manager I often had mentees ask me how to become VPs in 3 years, etc. https://t.co/oN9H64cgMw
9:16 PM AdamTilted A6) I’ve seen groups work for coaching skills, but I think deep development would be hard #lrnchat
9:16 PM Anton4th RT @OU812Jensen: #lrnchat A4) a good mentor will ask the individual to reflect on how the experience can serve them, what they’re prepared…
9:16 PM LnDDave RT @lrnchat: Q6) Are mentoring / coaching relationships strictly 1:1? Are there ways that mentoring/coaching can be scaled?#lrnchat
9:17 PM write2tg A6) Coaching can be scaled but mentoring should be 1:1. #lrnchat
9:17 PM vidyakumar @MrKMaston Gotta remember that if I ever start a conversation by the water cooler :-). #lrnchat
9:17 PM JD_Dillon @JeremyNegrey learning as part of the process that leads to the desired outcome (which isn’t just learning) #lrnchat
9:17 PM SimonBlairTrain @JaneBozarth @write2tg Brings up a good Q. What if the mentor has something they feel is important, but the mentee’s not interested?#lrnchat
9:17 PM JeremyNegrey @b_cuperus @lrnchat or the opposite – the mentee asks questions & the mentor shares experiences. #lrnchat
9:17 PM jng13e1 @LnDDave agreed, there is no coaching if there is no learning #lrnchat
9:18 PM vidyakumar A6) Mentoring’s strictly got to be 1:1. #lrnchat
9:18 PM write2tg @SimonBlairTrain @JaneBozarth Yes, that’s what I was trying to get at. Who defines the mentoring relationship? Mentor or Mentee? #lrnchat
9:18 PM JD_Dillon A6) Coaching is often scaled due to logistics (ex: large operation, same people not always together) #lrnchat https://t.co/RMl5MxvPQp
9:18 PM gorland2 Q6 In my PLN, we all learn a lot from each other. It’s like informal group mentoring over monthly dinners and weekly chats #lrnchat
9:18 PM JeremyNegrey @vidyakumar disagree! Focus of coaching may be on performance, but mentoring is about growth! #lrnchat
9:18 PM ChadSLowry @ZakiaRinggold True. You have to take note of whom you’re coaching, and how they’re responding. Adapt as needed. #lrnchat
9:18 PM SimonBlairTrain @write2tg @JaneBozarth I think so, but you can only take it so far. You can lead a horse to water… #lrnchat
9:18 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat A6) orgs. set them up to be 1:1 in mentoring, but coaching is a culture mindset that can happen with anyone at any level & not 1:1
9:18 PM carlakarijolich @vidyakumar although without learning, often times there can be no performance improvement, esp over the long term #lrnchat
9:18 PM LnDDave A6) Can coaching/mentoring be scaled? Absolutely. But not with the same effectiveness as have it applied 1:1. #lrnchat
9:18 PM JD_Dillon A6) Mentoring often 1:1 due to long-term, more intimate nature of relationship #lrnchat
9:18 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A6) Sky’s the limit! I have at least 4-5 mentors from different walks of life. Diversity in wisdom. Works vice versa #lrnchat
9:19 PM JeremyNegrey Spot on! #lrnchat https://t.co/HoxRAO76e3
9:19 PM CandiceCPLP A6) Traditionally 1:1, tho there are mentors who are more like teachers to a group, and possibly AI ‘mentors/coaches’ soon. #lrnchat
9:19 PM carlakarijolich A6 without some attention to the one on one won’t individual goals clash with group goals? #lrnchat
9:20 PM ashleyisbell Yes!!!! #lrnchat #rd3600 https://t.co/a3sS05nxfx
9:20 PM JD_Dillon A6) Scaled coaching requires effective back-end communication between designated coaches to ensure consistency of message #lrnchat
9:20 PM AdamTilted A6) This chat is an example of a group coaching experience. #lrnchat
9:20 PM vidyakumar @JeremyNegrey Isn’t growth about getting better and better at performance? #lrnchat
9:20 PM reward75 @SimonBlairTrain @JaneBozarth @write2tg The mentor should be patient & wait for the right times to bring it up #lrnchat
9:20 PM JeremyNegrey @lrnchat excellent question! #lrnchat
9:20 PM SimonBlairTrain A6: I suspect that it’s hard enough to get org support for the time it takes to mentor 1 person. Mentoring many… not so sure. #lrnchat
9:20 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat A6) ideally I could have several mentors depending on my goals & each mentor serves those specific outcomes.
9:20 PM jng13e1 Q6) Not strictly, but mentoring/coaching works best 1:1 with full attention on one learner #lrnchat
9:21 PM write2tg @SimonBlairTrain @JaneBozarth Its about being ready and open. When there’s trust, a mentor can lead a bit but not too much. #lrnchat
9:21 PM carlakarijolich @gorland2 I didn’t even think about PLNs. Good point! #lrnchat
9:21 PM ZakiaRinggold RT @AdamTilted: A6) This chat is an example of a group coaching experience. #lrnchat
9:21 PM NJShadow RT @CT_blog: A5. If learning is not occurring, mentoring is not occurring. Learning IS the outcome by definition. #lrnchat https://t.co/cM…
9:21 PM CandiceCPLP A6) Performance support systems can be thought of as coaches in some contexts, too. #lrnchat
9:21 PM vidyakumar @carlakarijolich Exactly! So the goal shouldn’t be to stop with learning, but to see that it translates to better performance. #lrnchat
9:21 PM Dave_Ferguson .@SimonBlairTrain #lrnchat Mentor: important! Mentee: (zzz) — unfortunate, but part of probably every learning path.
9:21 PM b_cuperus (A6) I would say that it generally happens in a 1:1 situation, but one may have multiple mentors/coaches #lrnchat
9:21 PM SimonBlairTrain A6 (ctd): … but one mentee with multiple mentors (maybe diff. areas of expertise) sounds interesting. A personal advisory board. #lrnchat
9:21 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat A6) you can coach an intact team towards a common purpose/goal by focusing on their strengths and values they bring to the team.
9:22 PM eklavyasinha Mentors are like Obi-wan who focus on overall life while coaches are like Yoda who focus on specific goals. #lrnchat https://t.co/VwxVeKVyBE
9:22 PM JeremyNegrey A6) it’s too much to ask 1 mentor to be all things – it is fair to have multiple mentors for different facets & times in your life #lrnchat
9:22 PM 4KM I meant to be there in #lrnchat! Took a deep dive into feedback on grad student papers and time flew by.
9:22 PM JD_Dillon A6) I welcome input from multiple coaches based on unique experience/knowledge #lrnchat
9:22 PM lrnchat Q7) How will tonight’s chat influence your personal use of mentoring and coaching? What might you do differently? #Lrnchat
9:22 PM carlakarijolich @vidyakumar yep. You’re going to have to show your stakeholders the added value at some point. #lrnchat
9:23 PM Anton4th RT @SimonBlairTrain: A6 (ctd): … but one mentee with multiple mentors (maybe diff. areas of expertise) sounds interesting. A personal adv…
9:23 PM Dave_Ferguson .@SimonBlairTrain Some orgs do little to prep mentors-just anoint.Little support, little release time, little comp. #lrnchat
9:23 PM JD_Dillon RT @lrnchat: Q7) How will tonight’s chat influence your personal use of mentoring and coaching? What might you do differently? #Lrnchat
9:23 PM vidyakumar @carlakarijolich Hidden agenda ;-). #lrnchat
9:23 PM AdamTilted A7) As a coach, I’m going to look for opportunities to be a mentor. #lrnchat
9:23 PM carlakarijolich A7 I’m learning about coaching formally in grad school, so I’ll be mindful of the differences #lrnchat
9:23 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat: Q7) How will tonight’s chat influence your personal use of mentoring and coaching? What might you do differently? #Lrnchat
9:23 PM odguru @lrnchat Co-mentoring groups! #lrnchat
9:23 PM SimonBlairTrain @JaneBozarth @write2tg That does sound interesting (and maybe familiar). My career has basically been a free-association story. #lrnchat
9:24 PM jng13e1 @b_cuperus exactly, and 1:1 coaching/mentoring makes the learning more personal and important to the learner #lrnchat
9:24 PM DrJessupS A7) I’m going to try and mentor my new hire more than coach them. #lrnchat
9:24 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A7) This chat has prompted me to take a deeper look into my org and follow up on coaching/mentorship across all lvls #lrnchat
9:24 PM gorland2 Q7 Thanks to @PML33T I have an idea to develop a framework for tracking and recording the mentoring/coaching process #lrnchat
9:24 PM margiemeacham Q7 I have a mentor who has become a good friend. I’m to write her and tell her how much she has helped me over the years. #lrnchat
9:24 PM ashleyisbell A7) increase my time spent with coaches and mentors to better increase my support #lrnchat #rd3600
9:24 PM Dave_Ferguson I do think coach-or-mentor distinction more important to the practitioners than to the person doing the learning. #lrnchat
9:25 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat A7) when it comes to mentoring we need to formalize the process & outcomes a little more – I invite any recommendations/suggstions
9:25 PM CandiceCPLP A7) Be more prescriptive when discussing coaching programs with clients (developing them) and clarifying expectations. #lrnchat
9:25 PM odguru SO sorry to be joining only the tail end of #lrnchat. #mentoring is my main modality. Speed reading the stream…
9:25 PM SimonBlairTrain @JaneBozarth @write2tg We don’t know what we don’t know, right? Maybe it never occurred to them that they COULD ask. #lrnchat
9:25 PM write2tg A7) I need to reflect some more about what when to use coaching vs mentoring. I noticed some blurred lines in the chat. #lrnchat
9:26 PM carlakarijolich @vidyakumar haha and of course there’s creating metrics to report on the results of the agenda.. #lrnchat
9:26 PM JeremyDBond @CandiceCPLP can’t see replacing human mentors, tho. #lrnchat
9:26 PM odguru @Dave_Ferguson Prolly. When you need help you need help. #lrnchat.
9:26 PM jng13e1 A7) Im going to reconsider who was actually the coach and who was actually the mentor in my life #lrnchat
9:26 PM SimonBlairTrain @odguru The rate these people type – speed-reading is a must-have skill. 🙂 #lrnchat
9:26 PM write2tg @SimonBlairTrain @JaneBozarth I am with Simon. People don’t know what they don’t know. And worse, they are afraid to ask. #lrnchat
9:26 PM odguru @SimonBlairTrain IKR! and me with no drink. #lrnchat
9:27 PM Dave_Ferguson .@OU812Jensen Do you follow @arossett? Heard her present years ago on mentorship program at a big real estate firm… #lrnchat
9:27 PM carlakarijolich @vidyakumar sometimes I feel like I’m sneaking in the learning vegetables into the meatloaf of performance #lrnchat
9:27 PM CandiceCPLP @JeremyDBond I don’t know, so,e of those avatars are getting pretty good… #lrnchat
9:27 PM AdamTilted And if they do know, they’re usually wrong. #lrnchat https://t.co/kaZjnrWKoF
9:27 PM write2tg A7) This chat has been thought-provoking! I’d probably be blogging about this soon.Will let you when I do 🙂 #lrnchat
9:27 PM vidyakumar @SimonBlairTrain @odguru and speed typing too, I guess. #lrnchat
9:27 PM JeremyDBond @JaneBozarth @SimonBlairTrain @write2tg you’ve hit on something important here. Self-promotion doesn’t belong in mentorship. #lrnchat
9:27 PM Dave_Ferguson @odguru #lrnchat It’s also (apologies) inside baseball, like training/learning/education talmudic disputes. 😉
9:28 PM LnDDave A7) This chat reminds me to be a reflective learner in relationships where I am the coach as well. #lrnchat
9:28 PM lrnchat QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:28 PM AdamTilted RT @LnDDave: A7) This chat reminds me to be a reflective learner in relationships where I am the coach as well. #lrnchat
9:28 PM margiemeacham 185 words a minute in high school typing class. Not quite so fast now, but pretty speedy. 🙂 #lrnchat https://t.co/o5ovWYNbCl
9:28 PM SimonBlairTrain @vidyakumar @odguru And macros for memes… although I haven’t spotted that many today. #lrnchat
9:28 PM carlakarijolich @gorland2 @vidyakumar I live to give! My trainees say my silly metaphors help them remember content… So it’s working for me. 😉 #lrnchat
9:28 PM Dave_Ferguson .@carlakarijolich @vidyakumar If you’ve convinced people about performance improvement, they’re already eating good veggies. #lrnchat
9:29 PM ChadSLowry Awrap) Chad Lowry, Client Education Manager. Trying to figure out which conference to attend next. #lrnchat
9:29 PM JeremyNegrey @gorland2 @PML33T careful not to make the relationship too data driven-a level of trust must develop organically to be successful. #lrnchat
9:29 PM LnDDave RT @lrnchat: QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:29 PM AdamTilted Cross your fingers for clear skies in Chile. Telescope time has been clouded out lately. https://t.co/lUVH46jYmP #lrnchat
9:29 PM gorland2 QWrap I really enjoyed the chat tonight! Went by so fast. Thanks everyone! #lrnchat
9:29 PM JeremyDBond Important takeaway: With #mentoring and #coaching, the learning is circular. Each party should be learning. #lrnchat https://t.co/zwY7kPlPH2
9:29 PM JD_Dillon Thanks #lrnchat! JD in Orlando. Cya at #ATD2016 next month. https://t.co/8xKUK5eqMk + https://t.co/pbUEYUHS6u https://t.co/CkX7DVBskc
9:30 PM SimonBlairTrain @margiemeacham Still impressive. I marvel at the fact that some ppl can do this with less than a full keyboard (e.g. mobile device) #lrnchat
9:30 PM CandiceCPLP Great chat all! Candice in OR, will be presenting at FocusOn Learning in Austin, and possibly elsewhere. #lrnchat
9:30 PM odguru RT @write2tg: A4) With mentors, I find myself talking about the universe! Conversations are deeper and reflective. They linger. #lrnchat
9:30 PM lrnchat Thanks everyone for joining #lrnchat tonight. See you next week! Look for weekly transcripts at https://t.co/ijNIXq164N
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