Transcript – November 12, 2015: Models and Frameworks

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This Week’s Questions

  • Which models and/or frameworks do you use in your professional practice?
  • Which models have you dismissed? Why?
  • What are the advantages to adopting a framework approach?
  • When is a model or framework not an appropriate approach?
  • How do you stay current with new or emerging models or frameworks?
  • How might working with models or frameworks impact innovation/creativity?
  • What did you learn tonight?
8:31 PM lrnchat Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
8:31 PM lrnchat Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat
8:31 PM AssignmentHelpN 10 Doubts Teachers have on Teaching #Coding https://t.co/HvAF9Ohhj6 #mdeschat #MEMSPAchat #mschat #TNedchat #lrnchat https://t.co/QL2MX6QXkZ
8:33 PM JD_Dillon JD in Orlando, FL stopping by for a quick #lrnchat. Focused on building a better onboarding experience! https://t.co/6sdqmjGsPN
8:33 PM CandiceCPLP Hi, all Candice joining from Oregon, my new home. Lately, passionate about finding places to put things as I unpack #lrnchat
8:33 PM beverleybunker RT @AssignmentHelpN: 10 Doubts Teachers have on Teaching #Coding https://t.co/HvAF9Ohhj6 #mdeschat #MEMSPAchat #mschat #TNedchat #lrnchat h…
8:33 PM aboutZPS I am Dani. I am finishing up a large eLearning project for a medical device company. Looking forward to shifting to new project. #LrnChat
8:33 PM lrnchat Any first-time #lrnchatters tonight? Please say hi. Ask for help if you need it. #lrnchat
8:33 PM kloomis10 Karen Loomis, ID. I’m interested in hearing how orgs outline curriculum #lrnchat
8:34 PM DrJessupS Hi #lrnchat, Stephanie an e-learning manager in Wisconsin working on year end reviews for my team. #lrnchat
8:34 PM lrnchat Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:34 PM lcarroll94 RT @BethRheingold: Tonight’s #isedchat topic: #grading. Join us! 9 PM EST. #edchat #education #lrnchat https://t.co/YKiyXjil10
8:34 PM JanniferAdamae #lrnchat #friendsforkeeps #guidance #springsummer Derrick #van #dyke s #affiliate program: Make Seventy Five Perc https://t.co/92rsS5Xnl8
8:34 PM AllisonAnderson @CandiceCPLP Welcome to Oregon, Candace! I’m here in Portland. #lrnchat
8:34 PM urbie #lrnchat urbie instructional designer. All day long I’ve been evaluating existing WBTs for reuse. #owie Passion: rehumanizing learning PD..
8:34 PM CandiceCPLP @JD_Dillon hi, would love to learn more about making of boarding better! #lrnchat
8:35 PM JeremyDBond Jeremy from Connecticut. Entering a time of year when pretty much everything is going on. #lrnchat
8:35 PM JustStormy Howdy…Melissa Hicks, learning designer, Penn State, Passionate about baseball, efficiency, and open resources #lrnchat
8:35 PM JD_Dillon A0) Plenty of fun convos this week about the (potential) evolving role of L&D in workplace performance #lrnchat https://t.co/O8VXBvybmt
8:35 PM herbRcollins Learning and Development Specialist for @hpe_education #lrnchat
8:35 PM jsuzcampos Q0) Hi folks, and fellow #Lrnchat-ters. Jeannette Campos from the mid-Alantic. Trying to #lrnchat tonight, but many windows open at once!
8:35 PM Elham_ab Good day everyone. Experienced all sorts of feelings & emotions this wk.Jay Cross’ passing has a huge impact #lrnchat
8:36 PM AllisonAnderson RT @Elham_ab: Good day everyone. Experienced all sorts of feelings & emotions this wk.Jay Cross’ passing has a huge impact #lrnchat
8:36 PM Tracy_Parish Hey #lrnchat. How is eveyrone tonight.? Tracy Parish, ID Healthcare. Newmarket, Ontario
8:36 PM jyoti__gupta a0) Learned about https://t.co/k9XrNIrYpT for playing around w/ SOQ queries; learned the Fishbowl style of conference session #lrnchat
8:36 PM Quinnovator Clark Quinn, L&D revolution instigator, consultant/speaker/author, learning & tech nerd, Walnut Creek CA #Lrnchat
8:36 PM kloomis10 Researching best in class training orgs… They seem to adopt a See – Do – Test approach… #lrnchat
8:36 PM brunowinck Bruno Winck, softare architect at @Kneaver tweeting from France #Nightowl #lrnchat
8:36 PM urbie #lrnchat A0 Learned this week that the efficacy of certain college placement tests may be in doubt. Chats w/other vets suggests..
8:36 PM aboutZPS Q0) We are implementing @salesforce #pardot. I am learning a ton about that system. More training tomorrow. #LrnChat
8:36 PM CandiceCPLP A0) I learned that Jay Cross was even more loved than I thought (RIP) and that my Corgi is a herding natural #lrnchat
8:37 PM Tracy_Parish Learned that when you click to view someone profile in Blab it also gives them “props”. That’s odd. #lrnchat
8:37 PM 2be2learn Hello from CA. Working on digital badging and leadership development projects.
I learned “let go” #LrnChat
8:37 PM kregerck A0) Learned that the conference I chaired earned $25,000 more than budgeted! Woot! #lrnchat https://t.co/7NZNJ77eIW
8:37 PM Quinnovator a0) learned (and learning tonite) how well @jaycross was respected. Rough to lose a good friend and colleague #Lrnchat
8:37 PM billbollenbach Good evening! I learned today that it is difficult to choose an LMS that fits many perspectives #lrnchat
8:38 PM aboutZPS A0) I also took time for myself..did some shopping at the Title Nine blowout sale and I learned how to find a needle in a haystack. #LrnChat
8:38 PM Jovianshadow #lrnchat Simon from (very wet) Canberra!

A0) I’ve learnt that coding when you have a concussion is very hard work!

8:38 PM AllisonAnderson Hi everyone. Allison in Portland here. Consultant, strategist, author! A0) Learned that we really are all extended family here. #lrnchat
8:38 PM DrJessupS @billbollenbach We recently finished the LMS selection process and now are beginning implementation. Good Luck. #lrnchat
8:38 PM Tazneen #lrnchat learned what kind of usage reports we can run in https://t.co/6G9JixvYuX
8:39 PM lrnchat Q1) Which models and/or frameworks do you use in your professional practice? #lrnchat
8:39 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q1) Which models and/or frameworks do you use in your professional practice? #lrnchat
8:39 PM johngeades Hey all from Charlotte, NC working on a new millennial leadership program on @learn_loft #lrnchat
8:39 PM urbie #lrnchat Multitasking peeling potatoes for stew Mrs is making. Tons of Navy experience with peeling all sorts of stuff.
8:40 PM JustStormy a0) Learned that I’d rather have personalized support on an open CMS rather than voting up technical assistance on a paid one #lrnchat
8:40 PM billbollenbach @DrJessupS we are not looking for a full blown LMS , but one we have LOTS of flexibility and use existing content. What r u using? #lrnchat
8:40 PM jsuzcampos RT @lrnchat: Q1) Which models and/or frameworks do you use in your professional practice? #lrnchat
8:40 PM aboutZPS A1) We use a rapid ID approach, blend of ADDIE and SAM when developing eLearning #LrnChat
8:41 PM JD_Dillon A1) Tend to lift principles from various frameworks based on context #lrnchat https://t.co/dvGAdZ2trd
8:41 PM JustStormy RT @lrnchat: Q1) Which models and/or frameworks do you use in your professional practice? #lrnchat
8:41 PM jsuzcampos Q1) I really like to go back to basics, models and approaches, especially when approaching something complex. #lrnchat
8:41 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q1) Which models and/or frameworks do you use in your professional practice? #lrnchat
8:41 PM JustStormy RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:41 PM johngeades Use a #microlearning framework 1)story (context) 2 how to 3). Key takeaways #lrnchat
8:41 PM eLearninCyclops RT @JustStormy RT @lrnchat: Q1) Which models and/or frameworks do you use in your professional practice? #lrnchat
8:42 PM JeremyDBond @Tracy_Parish I learned that too! I mean, I knew what it did, but I finally learned what it meant. #lrnchat
8:42 PM Quinnovator a1) use 70:20:10, Kirkpatrick (really!), Cognitive Apprenticeship,… #lrnchat
8:42 PM JD_Dillon A1) Often reference the 70/20/10 concept, adapted prices of SAM #lrnchat
8:42 PM CandiceCPLP A1) depends on the problem, though I spend a lot of time with the 5 moments of need lately. #lrnchat
8:42 PM RioPDX Rio from Portland, OR #lrnchat
8:42 PM JeremyDBond @Quinnovator so sorry! #lrnchat
8:42 PM aboutZPS @johngeades Us too. really try to create small bits of learning.#lrnchat
8:42 PM Quinnovator a1) have made habit of collecting models, bringing them out when resonate with current context #lrnchat
8:42 PM DrJessupS A1) We use a fluency approach for our product knowledge courses and some rapid prototyping. #lrncaht #lrnchat
8:42 PM kregerck RT @lrnchat: Q1) Which models and/or frameworks do you use in your professional practice? #lrnchat
8:43 PM chriscarlson I learned about the importance of outcomes focused work and the complexity of org change at an Agile conf. #lrnchat https://t.co/JN3C7eXn8y
8:43 PM SimonBlairTrain I love it! Right tool for the right job. #lrnchat https://t.co/MXn3fp5tsx
8:43 PM 2be2learn A1 organizational development frameworks that put People in the center of processes and systems #LrnChat
8:43 PM kloomis10 1)Know 2) see 3) do/practice 4) test/certify as a process for tiered learning program #lrnchat
8:43 PM robbartlett #lrnchat Q1 use a little of almost all models mainly mashup of Cathy Moore’s performance map and Roy Pollock’s 6ds with a little Prosci
8:43 PM jyoti__gupta a1) we’re heavily invested in social constructivism #lrnchat
8:43 PM Elham_ab RT @lrnchat: Q1) Which models and/or frameworks do you use in your professional practice? #lrnchat
8:43 PM jsuzcampos Q1) I use ADDIE and basic frameworks for writing design plans. ISD From the Ground Up (@ISDatUMBC)is a great go-to for me. #lrnchat
8:44 PM shannongrahamtx @lrnchat my passion is designing learning structures. Working on ITMS selection for 2 clients & competency model for another. #lrnchat
8:44 PM Quinnovator a1) situated and distributed cognition, cognitive processing, constructivism, Mager, ARCS, the list goes on #Lrnchat
8:44 PM CandiceCPLP A1) cognitive apprenticeship/constructivist models for behavioral course development, Gagne, etc. #lrnchat
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8:44 PM kregerck RT @Quinnovator: a1) have made habit of collecting models, bringing them out when resonate with current context #lrnchat
8:44 PM jsuzcampos Q1) Also rely A LOT on five moments of learning need. #lrnchat
8:45 PM JD_Dillon A1) Show me a framework that always holds true/applies regardless of context and I’ll use it! 😉 #lrnchat
8:45 PM ryantracey Hi all, late to the party. #lrnchat
8:45 PM eLearninCyclops MT @jsuzcampos Q1) …. ISD From the Ground Up (@ISDatUMBC)is a great go-to for me. | Chuck’s book is gr8 #lrnchat
8:45 PM Jovianshadow #lrnchat A1) That really depends on my audience…I tend to use Gagnes Events of instruction, but not always…
8:45 PM chriscarlson I use org change models, ADDIE, and Agile frameworks and methodologies. #lrnchat https://t.co/H49wPIC4lw
8:45 PM ryantracey A1) I’ve found the GROW coaching model to be useful. #lrnchat
8:45 PM SimonBlairTrain @JD_Dillon I’m sure such a thing exists, but it’d be too generic to be useful.🙂 #lrnchat
8:45 PM Quinnovator bloody aussies😉 Nice to ’see’ you here. #lrnchat https://t.co/oJF7h5Kd17
8:45 PM jsuzcampos Q1) I see a lot of theories being listed .. are those the same as a framework or model? I think of them differently. #lrnchat
8:45 PM JustStormy a1) I think it depends on what the challenge is #lrnchat…most often it’s been backwards design along with some SAM
8:45 PM shannongrahamtx @lrnchat first timer. Just realized I only have to use hashtag, not @. #lrnchat oops
8:46 PM ryantracey RT @JD_Dillon: A1) Often reference the 70/20/10 concept, adapted prices of SAM #lrnchat
8:46 PM urbie #lrnchat A1 ADTDIE, DOK, SAMR have been my mainstays lo’ the past two years.
8:46 PM JeremyDBond My agency uses @LearningForward as a model for internal development of its education consultants. #lrnchat
8:46 PM JustStormy RT @Quinnovator: a1) have made habit of collecting models, bringing them out when resonate with current context #lrnchat
8:46 PM ryantracey RT @Quinnovator: a1) use 70:20:10, Kirkpatrick (really!), Cognitive Apprenticeship,… #lrnchat
8:46 PM jsuzcampos @shannongrahamtx Hi Shannon, welcome! use Tweetchat which will add the hashtag for you! #lrnchat
8:46 PM eLearninCyclops Q1) ARCS, which works well within Gagne’s 9 events of learning #lrnchat
8:47 PM JustStormy @shannongrahamtx welcome…you’ll get the hang of it…just wait til you see the drinking game😉 #lrnchat
8:47 PM ryantracey @jsuzcampos I’m a fan of ADDIE too, when used right😉 #lrnchat
8:47 PM jsuzcampos Indeed it is! @eLearninCyclops RT @jsuzcampos | Chuck’s book is gr8 #lrnchat
8:47 PM kregerck RT @JD_Dillon: A1) Show me a framework that always holds true/applies regardless of context and I’ll use it! 😉 #lrnchat
8:47 PM ryantracey RT @JeremyDBond: My agency uses @LearningForward as a model for internal development of its education consultants. #lrnchat
8:47 PM CandiceCPLP A1) AND PLN – trying to build models around how people I work with learn (platinum rule). Sometimes it’s just a reaction not model #lrnchat
8:47 PM jsuzcampos It has never failed me! @ryantracey @jsuzcampos I’m a fan of ADDIE too, when used right😉 #lrnchat
8:47 PM aboutZPS @ryantracey We use that too. #lrnchat
8:47 PM Elham_ab A1) in theory we refer to all learning design models but in reality following templates (rapid dev) have become the practice! #lrnchat
8:47 PM lrnchat Q2) Which models have you dismissed? Why? #lrnchat
8:47 PM Quinnovator @ryantracey @jsuzcampos more sympathetic to SAM #lrnchat
8:47 PM JustStormy so many cool frameworks…so little time! #lrnchat :::Taking notes:::
8:47 PM herbRcollins RT @ryantracey: @jsuzcampos I’m a fan of ADDIE too, when used right😉 #lrnchat
8:47 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q2) Which models have you dismissed? Why? #lrnchat
8:47 PM shannongrahamtx @JustStormy I would excel at THAT game lol #lrnchat
8:48 PM jsuzcampos Q2) Which models have you dismissed? Why? #lrnchat
8:48 PM JustStormy RT @lrnchat: Q2) Which models have you dismissed? Why? #lrnchat
8:48 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lrnchat Q2) Which models have you dismissed? Why? #lrnchat
8:48 PM PatriceKiraly RT @Quinnovator: a1) situated and distributed cognition, cognitive processing, constructivism, Mager, ARCS, the list goes on #Lrnchat
8:48 PM JD_Dillon A2) LEARNING STYLES!!!! I’m sorry – too loud? 😜 #lrnchat https://t.co/NOv9umyU74
8:48 PM JustStormy MT @Elham_ab: A1) in theory we refer to all learning design models… templates (rapid dev) have become the practice! #lrnchat
8:49 PM eLearninCyclops Q2) Usually models dismiss me… Oh, you mean ISD models #lrnchat
8:49 PM jsuzcampos Never too loud! RT @JD_Dillon A2) LEARNING STYLES!!!! I’m sorry – too loud? 😜 #lrnchat
8:49 PM RioPDX A1) Several and even combinations of them. They are sometimes a good starting point but sometimes you have to adapt them. #lrnchat
8:49 PM Quinnovator a2) Bloom’s Taxonomy, Learning Styles, Digital Natives/Generations, ADDIE, Dale’s Cone #lrnchat
8:49 PM kregerck RT @lrnchat: Q2) Which models have you dismissed? Why? #lrnchat
8:49 PM AllisonAnderson Nope, not loud enough! RT @JD_Dillon: A2) LEARNING STYLES!!!! I’m sorry – too loud? 😜 #lrnchat https://t.co/Tp1weBc6SK
8:49 PM 2be2learn The contenders tonight include early favs — ADDIE or LMS. Don’t all LMS make you want a drinking game? #lrnchat https://t.co/UWYqlgTnra
8:49 PM Jovianshadow #lrnchat A2) The model that gets heaps of airtime, but is of no use to me is the 70:20:10 rule…dosen’t apply in my field
8:49 PM eLearninCyclops RT @JD_Dillon A2) LEARNING STYLES!!!! I’m sorry – too loud? 😜 #lrnchat https://t.co/4QxauyiUgR
8:49 PM DrJessupS A2) generational learning and learning styles #lrnchat
8:49 PM jsuzcampos Interesting, I find Bloom’s very useful when working with non-learning folks. RT @Quinnovator a2) Bloom’s Taxonomy, #lrnchat
8:50 PM ryantracey @Quinnovator Anything that uses the word “Millennials”. #lrnchat
8:50 PM Elham_ab @JustStormy hi Melissa. Nice to see you here this week too🙂 #lrnchat
8:50 PM Quinnovator I resemble that remark! #Lrnchat https://t.co/tIfISv48ld
8:50 PM jyoti__gupta a2) personally, badging. I really don’t get motivated by badges for non-extracurricular stuff. #lrnchat
8:50 PM Quinnovator RT @ryantracey: @Quinnovator Anything that uses the word “Millennials”. #lrnchat
8:50 PM ryantracey @Quinnovator @jsuzcampos SAM is good🙂 #lrnchat
8:50 PM jsuzcampos Q2) I’ve learned to dismiss any models that add complexity without value. I want low-drag, high-return. #lrnchat
8:50 PM RioPDX A2) SAM and generational stereotyping. #lrnchat
8:50 PM 2be2learn Where is my visual image for that loud statement? #lrnchat https://t.co/seHUioVYvL
8:51 PM JustStormy @quinnovator — where have the rules for the #lrnchat drinking game gone?😛
8:51 PM urbie #lrnchat A1 Adding #DesignThinking to ADDIE helps reduce rework & time getting approvals given SMEs & decision makers are integral to team..
8:51 PM JD_Dillon A2) I’m sorry but as a MILLENNIAL I find it important to always be yourself and not adhere to models 😷💩 #lrnchat
8:51 PM jsuzcampos Agreed. So much airtime. @Jovianshadow #lrnchat A2) The model that gets heaps of airtime, but is of no use to me is the 70:20:10 rule.
8:51 PM CandiceCPLP A2) 70/20/10, cause it’s really different for everyone, Dale’s Cone, don’t really use ADDIE anymore, have to work too AGILE (erm) #lrnchat
8:51 PM eLearninCyclops RT @jsuzcampos Q2) I’ve learned to dismiss any models that add complexity without value. I want low-drag, high-return. #lrnchat
8:51 PM Jovianshadow @jyoti__gupta Badges are an interesting phenom…I am not sure where it will end up. #lrnchat
8:51 PM Quinnovator @jsuzcampos I think Brenda Surge’s critique of Blooms’s is pretty apt: too and unnecessarily complex #lrnchat
8:51 PM ryantracey @jsuzcampos It’s a balance between simplification and applicability. #lrnchat
8:51 PM robbartlett #lrnchat Q2 Learning Styles
8:52 PM jsuzcampos I don’t know Dale’s Cone but it’s been mentioned here more than once … what it is? @Quinnovator @CandiceCPLP #lrnchat
8:52 PM aboutZPS @Quinnovator Bloom’s Tax. Tell me more… #lrnchat
8:52 PM ryantracey @jsuzcampos @Jovianshadow Really? I use 7-:20:10 as a lens. #lrnchat
8:52 PM CandiceCPLP @JD_Dillon @lrnchat Is learning styles a model? Then I’m adding Myers Briggs 🙃#lrnchat
8:52 PM JustStormy a2) Dismiss those models that discourage innovation #lrnchat
8:52 PM chriscarlson Do most L&D practitioners only focus on L&D frameworks and models and not larger organizational change models? #lrnchat
8:52 PM jsuzcampos Will read, thanks! RT @Quinnovator think Brenda Surge’s critique of Blooms’s is pretty apt: too and unnecessarily complex #lrnchat
8:52 PM kregerck RT @Jovianshadow: @jyoti__gupta Badges are an interesting phenom…I am not sure where it will end up. #lrnchat
8:52 PM urbie #lrnchat A1 SAMR model makes easy to communicate to customers, SMEs where to target learning/performance objectives https://t.co/47AicXmf8c
8:52 PM JeremyDBond @JD_Dillon ok, I’ll bite… why? Implying that people fit neatly into one or another? #lrnchat
8:53 PM jyoti__gupta @Jovianshadow Agree. They are not a panacea. Def. not a one-size-fits-all solution. #lrnchat
8:53 PM jsuzcampos Great Q. @chriscarlson Do most L&D practitioners only focus on L&D frameworks & models; not larger organizational change models? #lrnchat
8:53 PM kregerck RT @urbie: #lrnchat A1 Adding #DesignThinking to ADDIE helps reduce rework & time getting approvals given SMEs & decision makers are integr…
8:53 PM JD_Dillon @JeremyDBond nope – just showing how ridiculous putting people into generational boxes is … #lrnchat
8:53 PM ryantracey All models are wrong, but some are useful. https://t.co/Lt1V7xvGHB😉 #lrnchat
8:53 PM PatriceKiraly RT @Quinnovator: a2) Bloom’s Taxonomy, Learning Styles, Digital Natives/Generations, ADDIE, Dale’s Cone #lrnchat
8:54 PM robbartlett #lrnchat Learning styles and 70:20:10 fit in the really wrong circle https://t.co/mtJCInQilB
8:54 PM aboutZPS @jyoti__gupta I am totally motivated by badges. I’m highly competitive. I love to earn them for my small achievements. I am dork. #lrnchat
8:54 PM JeremyDBond @CandiceCPLP I’m either an INFP or INFJ because I still don’t understand what the last one means. #lrnchat
8:54 PM Jovianshadow @ryantracey @jsuzcampos I have no access to my learners except online, and only then because they have to be there… #lrnchat
8:54 PM Quinnovator Bloom’s Taxonomy Critique by Brenda Sugrue: https://t.co/33I7O5U9fn #lrnchat
8:54 PM urbie #lrnchat A1 DOK (Depth of Knowledge) is another (might say simpler) way of communicating taxonomies to SMEs, customers & she who signs check
8:54 PM RioPDX @ryantracey I wouldn’t they are all wrong, they are just a baseline that we must adapt to our own environment. #lrnchat
8:54 PM Elham_ab @ryantracey hi Ryan. Been a while. Of course I haven’t been a regular myself either. #lrnchat
8:55 PM robbartlett #lrnchat I use Prosci tool kit among others in my L and D work https://t.co/SwtJihF82r
8:55 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q2) Which models have you dismissed? Why? #lrnchat
8:55 PM Quinnovator Dale’s Cone problems by @WillWorkLearn: https://t.co/IMyLnFitEe #Lrnchat
8:55 PM JustStormy @Quinnovator LOL…Got it. #smh #lrnchat ADDIE ADDIE ADDIE
8:55 PM CandiceCPLP @jsuzcampos https://t.co/VO9J0t6qJU. The numbers have never been proven #lrnchat
8:56 PM lrnchat Q3) What are the advantages to adopting a framework approach? #lrnchat
8:56 PM jsuzcampos Thank you! I’ve never heard of it, will read! @CandiceCPLP @jsuzcampos #lrnchat
8:56 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q3) What are the advantages to adopting a framework approach? #lrnchat
8:56 PM jyoti__gupta @aboutZPS Agree. For me tool, but only for topics where a competitive element is fun / motivating. Not all topics r like that 4 me. #lrnchat
8:56 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lrnchat Q3) What are the advantages to adopting a framework approach? #lrnchat
8:56 PM JustStormy RT @lrnchat: Q3) What are the advantages to adopting a framework approach? #lrnchat
8:56 PM JeremyDBond @Quinnovator wow, we’re challenging everything tonight. Personal rejection doesn’t mean outright rejection of the idea, does it? #lrnchat
8:56 PM DrJessupS A3) Consistency and repeatability #lrnchat
8:57 PM jsuzcampos RT @lrnchat Q3) What are the advantages to adopting a framework approach? #lrnchat
8:57 PM ryantracey +1 RT @DrJessupS A3) Consistency and repeatability #lrnchat
8:57 PM Elham_ab RT @lrnchat: Q2) Which models have you dismissed? Why? #lrnchat
8:57 PM Quinnovator a3) “essentially, all models are wrong, but some are useful” – George Box #lrnchat
8:57 PM urbie #lrnchat Dismissed? ARCS. Before #DesignThinking I loved the model.. https://t.co/JdqBrgD6N9. DT’s empathy, prototyping reveal all.
8:57 PM JustStormy a3) provides a framework for efficiency so that you can focus on doing something more innovative and engaging #lrnchat
8:57 PM JD_Dillon A3) You’d think it would be proven success but it’s often laziness/aversion to risk #lrnchat https://t.co/ws7G1VLYiP
8:57 PM ryantracey A3) Not forgetting something important. #lrnchat
8:57 PM chriscarlson Frameworks give structure to the work. Remind us of what’s important. Help to bring focus. #lrnchat https://t.co/BRP0bG6eru
8:58 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q3) What are the advantages to adopting a framework approach? #lrnchat
8:58 PM RioPDX A3) It helps demonstrate effort and results but only if done correctly and based on your environment and not someone elses. #lrnchat
8:58 PM Elham_ab A2) ADDIE since it wasn’t really used well. #lrnchat
8:58 PM ryantracey RT @JustStormy: a3) provides a framework for efficiency so that you can focus on doing something more innovative and engaging #lrnchat
8:58 PM ryantracey RT @chriscarlson: Frameworks give structure to the work. Remind us of what’s important. Help to bring focus. #lrnchat https://t.co/BRP0bG6e…
8:58 PM CandiceCPLP A3) frameworks can provide a shared understanding in metacommunication, but have a dark side. Better to have standards IMO #lrnchat
8:58 PM jyoti__gupta a3) easier to have consistency & accuracy & measurability all across the board – from process to output #lrnchat
8:58 PM 2be2learn Frameworks can provide structure for stakeholder inputs/outputs. Or just give me a great #infographic #lrnchat
8:58 PM Quinnovator @JeremyDBond some models have evidence that they’re not valid: https://t.co/A44TNTuFYl #lrnchat
8:58 PM jsuzcampos AGREE! 100% @chriscarlson Frameworks give structure to the work. Remind us of what’s important. Help to bring focus. #lrnchat
8:58 PM urbie MT @Quinnovator: Bloom’s Taxonomy Critique by Brenda Sugrue: https://t.co/23fzA3iXCh #lrnchat #txeduchat #caedchat #edcamp
8:58 PM jsuzcampos Agree 100%! @2be2learn Frameworks can provide structure for stakeholder inputs/outputs. Or just give me a great #infographic #lrnchat
8:59 PM JeremyDBond A3) I’m going to pretend I know what I’m talking about and suggest that frameworks allow flexibility. They’re not prescriptive. #lrnchat
8:59 PM robbartlett #lrnchat Q3 You are going to use a model even if you aren’t aware, may as well be explicit about it
8:59 PM JD_Dillon A3) I’ll echo consistency – but when you find a framework that functions in context and can be evolved #lrnchat
8:59 PM Quinnovator a3) when models can be mapped to the context, they can provide guidance for productive action #lrnchat
8:59 PM Jovianshadow A3) being able to replicate your workflow so you don’t miss anything and help scheduled your reviews #lrnchat
8:59 PM kregerck RT @JeremyDBond: A3) I’m going to pretend I know what I’m talking about and suggest that frameworks allow flexibility. They’re not prescrip…
8:59 PM JD_Dillon RT @Quinnovator: a3) when models can be mapped to the context, they can provide guidance for productive action #lrnchat
8:59 PM chriscarlson They also allow you to work more easily with others on a product or project. #lrnchat https://t.co/BRP0bG6eru
8:59 PM herbRcollins A3) Consistency. Ability to improve over time due to evolution #lrnchat
8:59 PM kregerck RT @jsuzcampos: AGREE! 100% @chriscarlson Frameworks give structure to the work. Remind us of what’s important. Help to bring focus. #lrnc…
8:59 PM ryantracey @JD_Dillon Absolutely. No need to take it at face value. #lrnchat
9:00 PM SimonBlairTrain A3: Structure which streamlines some of the work. (A4?) But they can put blinders on us. #lrnchat
9:00 PM jsuzcampos Fake it til you make it! @JeremyDBond A3) I’m going to pretend I know what I’m talking about; suggest frameworks allow flexibility. #lrnchat
9:00 PM aboutZPS A3) A framework can sometimes help communicating with SMEs or other stakeholders. With some, it can build credibility #LrnChat
9:00 PM Quinnovator a3) evidence suggests that flexibly applying models is a more robust/agile approach than rote execution of processes/procedures #lrnchat
9:00 PM jsuzcampos Absolutely! @aboutZPS A3) A framework can help communicating with SMEs or other stakeholders. With some, it can build credibility #LrnChat
9:00 PM JD_Dillon A3) Frameworks often assist in promoting scalable change in approach and mentality #lrnchat
9:00 PM robbartlett #lrnchat Q3 Clients like them, gives them confidence in you
9:01 PM urbie #lrnchat A3 Frameworks are like shoe hangers.. https://t.co/ohDxNUoU9V help with organization, others picking up where you left off..
9:01 PM ebayrt @urbie Honey Can Do Sft 01242 Over The Door Clear Shoe Organ… https://t.co/CdEQfdUZmr #lrnchat #Amazon #AmazonUS https://t.co/f0jD1pFpgz
9:01 PM kregerck A3) A starting point, and common language for collaborators. #lrnchat https://t.co/AS5TAlYKWv
9:01 PM 2be2learn Yes. Good one. Knowledge management and retain institutional wisdom. Also repetition. #lrnchat https://t.co/pnoEV1grZ1
9:01 PM MrKMaston Late to @lrnchat! Obscenely full from lunch. *scans Q & A* #lrnchat
9:01 PM ryantracey @JeremyDBond I agree. #lrnchat
9:01 PM lrnchat Q4) When is a model or framework not an appropriate approach? #lrnchat
9:01 PM jsuzcampos RT @lrnchat Q4) When is a model or framework not an appropriate approach? #lrnchat
9:01 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q4) When is a model or framework not an appropriate approach? #lrnchat
9:01 PM robbartlett RT @Quinnovator: a3) evidence suggests that flexibly applying models is a more robust/agile approach than rote execution of processes/proce…
9:01 PM JustStormy RT @Quinnovator: a3) when models can be mapped to the context, they can provide guidance for productive action #lrnchat
9:01 PM btopro a3) see educator teaching concept, build something for that educator, adapt to colleagues #lrnchat
9:02 PM kregerck RT @Quinnovator: a3) when models can be mapped to the context, they can provide guidance for productive action #lrnchat
9:02 PM urbie #lrnchat A3 A couple years ago doing work with a LEO academy frameworks grounded everyone (SMEs) in making development process repeatable.
9:02 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lrnchat Q4) When is a model or framework not an appropriate approach? #lrnchat
9:02 PM btopro a4) #lrnchat when there’s finite resources whether time, money, knowledge, capacity; then we fall back on mundane tools / ways of buisness
9:02 PM ryantracey A4) When you treat it as gospel rather than guidance. #lrnchat
9:02 PM eLearninCyclops Q4) Guerrilla Training #lrnchat
9:02 PM kregerck RT @lrnchat: Q4) When is a model or framework not an appropriate approach? #lrnchat
9:02 PM JeremyDBond @Quinnovator hunh. I’ll check it out. #lrnchat
9:03 PM Quinnovator a4) when the situation is unknown or uncertain. Cynefin framework: when things are chaotic https://t.co/3DftchxcmH #lrnchat
9:03 PM JD_Dillon A4) When it’s adopted simply bc it worked somewhere else or bc an authority says it’s a good idea #lrnchat https://t.co/wn0k92S4cZ
9:03 PM jsuzcampos RT @ryantracey: A4) When you treat it as gospel rather than guidance. #lrnchat
9:03 PM chriscarlson When it will add unnecessary overhead to a simple problem or project. #lrnchat https://t.co/INPXzCrEHx
9:03 PM RioPDX A4) When it disrupts productivity, doesn’t apply, not applicable to your situation. #lrnchat
9:03 PM JustStormy RT @lrnchat: Q4) When is a model or framework not an appropriate approach? #lrnchat
9:03 PM Jovianshadow A4) When it restricts you from exploring options that may be more appropriate to your audience. #lrnchat
9:03 PM chriscarlson Or when you don’t fully understand the WHY behind the framework or model. #lrnchat https://t.co/INPXzCrEHx
9:03 PM JD_Dillon A4) When it has no basis in science, research, context, or practical application #lrnchat https://t.co/wn0k92S4cZ
9:03 PM Quinnovator RT @JD_Dillon: A4) When it has no basis in science, research, context, or practical application #lrnchat https://t.co/wn0k92S4cZ
9:03 PM Quinnovator RT @chriscarlson: Or when you don’t fully understand the WHY behind the framework or model. #lrnchat https://t.co/INPXzCrEHx
9:04 PM jsuzcampos Q4) A model must be followed purposefully and with full thought to be valuable. Not habitually. Auto-pilot is not creative. #lrnchat
9:04 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q4) When is a model or framework not an appropriate approach? #lrnchat
9:04 PM robbartlett #lrnchat Q4 when the model or framework overrides being Solution Agnostic
9:04 PM aboutZPS A3) They also help me estimate amount of effort and work on a project based on past experience. #LrnChat
9:04 PM ryantracey A4) Context is king. No point trying to push a square peg through a round hole. #lrnchat
9:04 PM Quinnovator a4) when it’s a known problem with a known solution #lrnchat
9:04 PM DrJessupS A4) When it’s used because that’s the way we’ve always done it. #lrnchat
9:04 PM kregerck RT @jsuzcampos: Q4) A model must be followed purposefully and with full thought to be valuable. Not habitually. Auto-pilot is not creative.…
9:04 PM jsuzcampos RT @aboutZPS A3) They also help me estimate amount of effort and work on a project based on past experience. #LrnChat
9:04 PM 2be2learn A4 when the framework suggested is a “pet project” with no org alignment or resources #lrnchat
9:04 PM kregerck RT @Jovianshadow: A4) When it restricts you from exploring options that may be more appropriate to your audience. #lrnchat
9:04 PM JustStormy RT @JD_Dillon: A4) When it has no basis in science, research, context, or practical application #lrnchat https://t.co/5oo5B61Fua
9:05 PM Quinnovator hear hear #lrnchat https://t.co/qf6DMsNp6U
9:05 PM kregerck RT @chriscarlson: When it will add unnecessary overhead to a simple problem or project. #lrnchat https://t.co/INPXzCrEHx
9:05 PM JustStormy Ooooh…yes RT @DrJessupS: A4) When it’s used because that’s the way we’ve always done it. #lrnchat
9:05 PM Elham_ab @chriscarlson I echo that #lrnchat
9:05 PM kregerck RT @ryantracey: A4) When you treat it as gospel rather than guidance. #lrnchat
9:05 PM urbie #lrnchat A4 When evaluations indicate that efficacy/transfer aren’t where they should be. Something in the environment has changed.
9:05 PM motay86 #lrnchat Q3 – I see frameworks as a process that takes cognitive load off off the “how” so you can focus on the “what”.
9:06 PM aboutZPS A4) I have seen too many IDs get so hung up on the model, they can never get anything accomplished on time or within budget.#LrnChat
9:06 PM 2be2learn Copy paste copy paste because we have always …………. #lrnchat https://t.co/6AHFZX3tEr
9:06 PM eLearninCyclops Q4) When solution is not training at all (e.g. asked to do things that don’t really involve training solution – ugh) #lrnchat
9:06 PM Jovianshadow I’ve seen this too often… #lrnchat https://t.co/NEAwHooEvf
9:07 PM ryantracey RT @eLearninCyclops: Q4) When solution is not training at all (e.g. asked to do things that don’t really involve training solution – ugh) #…
9:07 PM Elham_ab RT @ryantracey: All models are wrong, but some are useful. https://t.co/Lt1V7xvGHB😉 #lrnchat
9:07 PM jyoti__gupta a4) when it doesn’t align to your goals. e.g. the Wii teaches me rules/basics of tennis, but can’t prep me for a real tennis match #lrnchat
9:07 PM jsuzcampos nice! @motay86 #lrnchat Q3 – I see frameworks as a process that takes cognitive load off off the “how” so you can focus on the “what”.
9:07 PM JeremyDBond Other than that we’re good. #lrnchat https://t.co/CuyFqrwMUl
9:07 PM Quinnovator RT @jsuzcampos: nice! @motay86 #lrnchat Q3 – I see frameworks as a process that takes cognitive load off off the “how” so you can focus on …
9:08 PM jyoti__gupta @eLearninCyclops Agree. Sometimes a well-designed job aid will do ya! #lrnchat
9:08 PM herbRcollins A4) When changes are continuously occurring adherence to a static framework or model might not do. #adaptation may be needed #lrnchat
9:08 PM lrnchat Q5) How do you stay current with new or emerging models or frameworks? #lrnchat
9:08 PM SimonBlairTrain A4: When it’s not the right tool for the job at hand. You don’t drive screws with a hammer. Well.. you shouldn’t.🙂 #lrnchat
9:08 PM jsuzcampos RT @lrnchat Q5) How do you stay current with new or emerging models or frameworks? #lrnchat
9:08 PM 2be2learn Hey now. Aren’t random conceptual models the best? #lrnchat https://t.co/gBJODBnjVb
9:09 PM rickmanelius RT @btopro: a4) #lrnchat when there’s finite resources whether time, money, knowledge, capacity; then we fall back on mundane tools / ways …
9:09 PM eklavyasinha A3: When you visit a new place, a map is useful even though it may not be 100% accurate. I think of frameworks in the same manner. #lrnchat
9:09 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A5) By first subscribing to #lrnchat😉
9:09 PM chriscarlson Co-workers. Professional organizations. Conferences. Industry magazines. Books. Twitter. #lrnchat https://t.co/BJP2acjP7o
9:09 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q5) How do you stay current with new or emerging models or frameworks? #lrnchat
9:09 PM ryantracey RT @MrKMaston: @lrnchat A5) By first subscribing to #lrnchat😉
9:09 PM SimonBlairTrain A5: I “stand on the shoulders of giants”. I tend to hear about things from the smart people on Twitter or blogs. #lrnchat
9:09 PM ryantracey A5) My answer for this question and many others: Read blogs. #lrnchat
9:09 PM jsuzcampos Q5) Read, read, read! Observe. #lrnchat
9:09 PM urbie #lrnchat A4 A tweet today (that I can’t find atm) about how L&D is changing. Old has given way to new practices. Anyone else see it? That.
9:09 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q5) How do you stay current with new or emerging models or frameworks? #lrnchat
9:10 PM jsuzcampos That was @c4lpt RT @urbie A tweet today (that I can’t find atm) about how L&D is changing. Old has given way to new practices. #lrnchat
9:10 PM urbie #lrnchat A5 You people.
9:10 PM Jovianshadow A5) Look at job ad’s! They will reflect in the selection criteria which model they are looking for knowledge of!😀 #lrnchat
9:10 PM chriscarlson Has anyone on #lrnchat ever created their own model or framework?
9:10 PM ryantracey A5) Look at what they’re doing in other professions & industries. #lrnchat
9:10 PM JustStormy RT @lrnchat: Q5) How do you stay current with new or emerging models or frameworks? #lrnchat
9:10 PM JD_Dillon A5) Sharing via PLN, plenty of blogs, meet ups, research reports, conferences, trying my own stuff #lrnchat https://t.co/XjSBSUjs1y
9:10 PM DrJessupS A5) Blogs, twitter, conferences, #lrnchat, articles #lrnchat
9:11 PM Elham_ab RT @lrnchat: Q3) What are the advantages to adopting a framework approach? #lrnchat
9:11 PM Jovianshadow A5) also this… #lrnchat https://t.co/dmcz6kj8M8
9:11 PM eklavyasinha A4: Models are means to an end. The problem happens when the means become more important than the end. #lrnchat https://t.co/3Ivyrzb0ow
9:11 PM kregerck RT @ryantracey: A5) Look at what they’re doing in other professions & industries. #lrnchat
9:11 PM jsuzcampos Here it is @urbie #lrnchat : https://t.co/aGgJExxIVc
9:11 PM Quinnovator a5) track sources within and in related fields #lrnchat
9:11 PM ryantracey @chriscarlson Yes: Here’s my framework for content curation https://t.co/x74eBVxQPl #lrnchat
9:11 PM kregerck RT @Jovianshadow: A5) Look at job ad’s! They will reflect in the selection criteria which model they are looking for knowledge of!😀 #lrnc…
9:11 PM urbie @jsuzcampos Yep! Awesome read. @c4lpt is on to something. #lrnchat
9:11 PM JustStormy a5) apparently participating in #lrnchat tonite is going to keep me current for the next few months
9:11 PM JD_Dillon THIS! #lrnchat https://t.co/U1o5F4e8SA
9:11 PM aboutZPS A5) #LrnChat, conferences, blogs, networking with others in my profession outside my org, #showyourwork
9:11 PM 2be2learn A5 I admit it. I like a good practice based “white paper” with a research bibliography #lrnchat
9:11 PM chriscarlson It’s interesting to think about why new frameworks and models emerge. #lrnchat https://t.co/BJP2acjP7o
9:11 PM jsuzcampos LOVE. @2be2learn A5 I admit it. I like a good practice based “white paper” with a research bibliography #lrnchat
9:11 PM jsuzcampos RT @chriscarlson: It’s interesting to think about why new frameworks and models emerge. #lrnchat https://t.co/BJP2acjP7o
9:12 PM Quinnovator a5) by being a diagramophile #lrnchat
9:12 PM jyoti__gupta a5) really hard to stay on top of emerging learning theory & science. easier to stay on top of ed tech via old-fashioned listservs #lrnchat
9:12 PM eklavyasinha A5: Reading, PLN, Participating in scintillating chats such as these.🙂 #lrnchat https://t.co/MeVshyGDvm
9:12 PM kregerck RT @aboutZPS: A5) #LrnChat, conferences, blogs, networking with others in my profession outside my org, #showyourwork
9:12 PM Quinnovator RT @ryantracey: @chriscarlson Yes: Here’s my framework for content curation https://t.co/x74eBVxQPl #lrnchat
9:12 PM urbie @kregerck Yes! Jane Hart.. https://t.co/IaqH73JpfS via @jsuzcampos @c4lpt #lrnchat
9:13 PM jsuzcampos Q5) I love @FastCompany’s annual issue, Masters of Design. #lrnchat
9:13 PM robbartlett #lrnchat Q5 look in other disciplines ( communication, marketing, advocacy groups) at their models
9:13 PM JustStormy RT @aboutZPS: A5) #LrnChat, conferences, blogs, networking with others in my profession outside my org, #showyourwork
9:13 PM urbie #lrnchat A5 #EdCamp #cue and lately #azk12 has greatly opened my eyes/mind to new models/frameworks/ways of knowing & assessing.
9:13 PM jsuzcampos RT @robbartlett #lrnchat Q5 look in other disciplines ( communication, marketing, advocacy groups) at their models
9:13 PM robbartlett RT @2be2learn: A5 I admit it. I like a good practice based “white paper” with a research bibliography #lrnchat
9:13 PM Quinnovator a5) eternal curiosity and a touch of ADD #lrnchat
9:14 PM 2be2learn Yes. Attend conferences outside of our own peer cohort. #lrnchat https://t.co/a3WRoif5r4
9:14 PM JD_Dillon RT @Quinnovator: a5) eternal curiosity and a touch of ADD #lrnchat
9:15 PM Quinnovator and interface design/UX, software engineering, graphic design, business strategy, comics, story, … #lrnchat https://t.co/JIltWIRU8O
9:15 PM CandiceCPLP A5) I also ‘take coffee’ with new vendors, to see where tech trends are going #lrnchat
9:15 PM SimonBlairTrain @Quinnovator Too true! “Time to work… but wait! Look at that shiny new framework!”🙂 #lrnchat
9:15 PM 2be2learn Clark. Can you color code my file folder of frameworks for me? #LrnChat https://t.co/0PyKLXV99d
9:15 PM Elham_ab A3) mainly efficiency. I don’t agree with using them for consistency. #lrnchat
9:15 PM lrnchat Q6) How might working with models or frameworks impact innovation/creativity? #lrnchat
9:15 PM jsuzcampos RT @lrnchat Q6) How might working with models or frameworks impact innovation/creativity? #lrnchat
9:15 PM kregerck RT @Quinnovator: a5) eternal curiosity and a touch of ADD #lrnchat
9:16 PM Quinnovator @2be2learn oh yeah, let me get right on that😉 #lrnchat
9:16 PM kregerck RT @jsuzcampos: Q5) I love @FastCompany’s annual issue, Masters of Design. #lrnchat
9:16 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q6) How might working with models or frameworks impact innovation/creativity? #lrnchat
9:16 PM shannongrahamtx A4) when the model isn’t elegant enough to understand in 60 seconds. I like simplicity. #lrnchat
9:16 PM urbie #lrnchat A5 @LnDDave curates some cool stuff. Likewise the Learning Rebel & @Quinnovator Learnlets blog are thought leaders.
9:16 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q6) How might working with models or frameworks impact innovation/creativity? #lrnchat
9:16 PM JustStormy RT @lrnchat: Q6) How might working with models or frameworks impact innovation/creativity? #lrnchat
9:16 PM SimonBlairTrain A5: The (silly, but common) human tendency to try to make the situation fit the tools. #lrnchat
9:16 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lrnchat Q6) How might working with models or frameworks impact innovation/creativity? #lrnchat
9:16 PM jsuzcampos @shannongrahamtx If you haven’t yet read it, try “In Pursuit of Elegance” (matthew may) – he says the same thing! #lrnchat
9:16 PM JD_Dillon A6) Driving high level consistency can also enable innovation within context/application #lrnchat https://t.co/xHeH9csJmk
9:17 PM Quinnovator a6) depends on ‘level’ of the framework. Can be useful when it provides new insights, can hinder when constrains exploration #lrnchat
9:17 PM shannongrahamtx A6) when you try to force a solution to the model. It’s a framework, not THE answer. #lrnchat
9:17 PM DrJessupS A6) You don’t think you only plug content into boxes. #lrnchat
9:17 PM Elham_ab @Quinnovator that’s the reason I’m against consistency #lrnchat
9:17 PM CandiceCPLP A5) also ScoopIt! #lrnchat
9:17 PM aboutZPS RT @Quinnovator: a6) depends on ‘level’ of the framework. Can be useful when it provides new insights, can hinder when constrains explorat…
9:17 PM jsuzcampos RT @shannongrahamtx A6) when you try to force a solution to the model. It’s a framework, not THE answer. #lrnchat
9:17 PM JD_Dillon A6) Blind adherence to models can stifle innovation based on the “how we do it” mentality #lrnchat https://t.co/xHeH9csJmk
9:18 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 It can put one out on the bleeding edge where stuff gets fuzzy. Which is awesome btw. It’s really organic & human.
9:18 PM 2be2learn A6 good frameworks have a feedback and evaluation loop to encourage reflection, innovation and creativity #lrnchat
9:18 PM Quinnovator a6) mapping appropriate frameworks can provide a useful match, prematurely applying one will hinder #lrnchat
9:18 PM ryantracey A6) This could go positively or negatively! #lrnchat
9:18 PM shannongrahamtx A5) Bersin is a great resource. Obsessive research on my part helps. #lrnchat
9:18 PM ryantracey RT @Quinnovator: a6) mapping appropriate frameworks can provide a useful match, prematurely applying one will hinder #lrnchat
9:18 PM kloomis10 A6) if it’s a good model it allows more time for creativity and removes uncertainty/ambiguity #lrnchat
9:18 PM ryantracey RT @2be2learn: A6 good frameworks have a feedback and evaluation loop to encourage reflection, innovation and creativity #lrnchat
9:19 PM ryantracey A6) By prompting us to think about something else – for example, how can we facilitate the 70 & 20 in 70:20:10? #lrnchat
9:19 PM kregerck RT @urbie: #lrnchat A5 @LnDDave curates some cool stuff. Likewise the Learning Rebel & @Quinnovator Learnlets blog are thought leaders.
9:19 PM kregerck RT @lrnchat: Q6) How might working with models or frameworks impact innovation/creativity? #lrnchat
9:19 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 One of the books I’m reading atm (Gamestorming) talks about Fuzzy Goals.. https://t.co/jgxADtIu8V cool stuff lemme tell you.
9:19 PM SimonBlairTrain @kloomis10 What if the creativity comes from the uncertainty/ambiguity? Mine often does. #lrnchat
9:19 PM Quinnovator “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds” Ralph Waldo Emerson #Lrnchat https://t.co/nGuJirz4Q0
9:19 PM aboutZPS @urbie I love that word…organic…that’s when the most innovative stuff gets built. #lrnchat
9:20 PM Quinnovator RT @ryantracey: A6) By prompting us to think about something else – for example, how can we facilitate the 70 & 20 in 70:20:10? #lrnchat
9:20 PM jsuzcampos I want to talk more about that! T @ryantracey A6) For example, how can we facilitate the 70 & 20 in 70:20:10? #lrnchat
9:20 PM eklavyasinha RT @JeremyDBond: My agency uses @LearningForward as a model for internal development of its education consultants. #lrnchat
9:20 PM JustStormy RT @SimonBlairTrain: @kloomis10 What if the creativity comes from the uncertainty/ambiguity? Mine often does. #lrnchat
9:20 PM jyoti__gupta a6) Ed/learning: intersection of language, neuroscience, psych., tech, art, culture – many frameworks can be valid at any time #lrnchat
9:20 PM kregerck A6) When you can build on them to create your own. Customize it to your needs #lrnchat
9:20 PM lrnchat Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
9:20 PM motay86 #lrnchat Q6 | Journals, social media and professional communities mostly. I will integrate into my own model/framework if useful.
9:20 PM ryantracey @SimonBlairTrain @kloomis10 I like the point someone else made about frameworks allowing your mind to think on the creative. #lrnchat
9:20 PM designthinkbot RT @urbie: #lrnchat Dismissed? ARCS. Before #DesignThinking I loved the model.. https://t.co/JdqBrgD6N9. DT’s empathy, prototyping reveal a…
9:20 PM eklavyasinha RT @urbie: #lrnchat A6 One of the books I’m reading atm (Gamestorming) talks about Fuzzy Goals.. https://t.co/jgxADtIu8V cool stuff lemme t…
9:21 PM jsuzcampos RT @lrnchat Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
9:21 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat A7) I learned about a few models thanks to this #lrnchat session. The power of social networks…
9:21 PM ryantracey @SimonBlairTrain @kloomis10 EDIT: I should say “freeing” your mind. #lrnchat
9:21 PM jsuzcampos Q7) I learned about Dale’s Cone and I am predisposed to think its hogwash. #lrnchat
9:21 PM urbie @aboutzps Since embracing the #edcamp unconference PD (@gcouros says Professional Learning) model organic, messy is my #BKM #lrnchat
9:21 PM Quinnovator a7) to keep up my search to create or find new models #lrnchat
9:21 PM CandiceCPLP A5) Calendaring professional dev helps me keep on top of stuff, too, so I don’t go down a rat-hole. #lrnchat It’s just too easy…
9:21 PM Elham_ab RT @Quinnovator: “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds” Ralph Waldo Emerson #Lrnchat https://t.co/nGuJirz4Q0
9:21 PM SimonBlairTrain @ryantracey @kloomis10 Good point. When they work well, they take your mind off the routine aspects so that it can do other stuff. #lrnchat
9:21 PM ryantracey A7) I learned that many of us find models useful, but with a healthy dose of realism. #lrnchat
9:22 PM JustStormy RT @lrnchat: Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
9:22 PM JustStormy RT @lrnchat: Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
9:22 PM designthinkbot RT @urbie: #lrnchat A1 Adding #DesignThinking to ADDIE helps reduce rework & time getting approvals given SMEs & decision makers are integr…
9:22 PM Elham_ab RT @lrnchat: Q4) When is a model or framework not an appropriate approach? #lrnchat
9:22 PM motay86 #lrnchat Q7 | That these chats were going on! #firsttimer
9:22 PM kregerck A7) Have some great new articles to read! #lrnchat https://t.co/4BNTx2eS63
9:22 PM SimonBlairTrain A7: I learned that I’m not the only L&D person with ADD/ADHD. Come to think of it, I bet there are a lot of us. #lrnchat Squirrel!
9:23 PM Elham_ab RT @JustStormy: RT @Quinnovator: a3) when models can be mapped to the context, they can provide guidance for productive action #lrnchat
9:23 PM ryantracey RT @SimonBlairTrain: A7: I learned that I’m not the only L&D person with ADD/ADHD. Come to think of it, I bet there are a lot of us. #lrnch…
9:23 PM JustStormy a7) i learned so much tonite! Bunch of new frameworks, ordered a new book, and it was reinforced that you all rock #lrnchat
9:23 PM jsuzcampos RT @CandiceCPLP A5) Calendaring professional dev helps me keep on top of stuff, too, so I don’t go down a rat-hole. #lrnchat
9:23 PM 2be2learn A7 my husband just thought “learning models” had to do with fashion. Ever have one of those “what is your work” really moments? #lrnchat
9:23 PM Quinnovator RT @JustStormy: a7) i learned so much tonite! Bunch of new frameworks, ordered a new book, and it was reinforced that you all rock #lrnchat
9:23 PM CandiceCPLP A7) how many different models folks use! #lrnchat Have to be sure we’re on the same page always.
9:23 PM jsuzcampos @JustStormy What’s new book did you order! Love new books! #lrnchat
9:23 PM ryantracey RT @JD_Dillon: A6) Driving high level consistency can also enable innovation within context/application #lrnchat https://t.co/xHeH9csJmk
9:24 PM DrJessupS @2be2learn Don’t tell HR that I have a picture of a model on my office wall. #lrnchat
9:24 PM Quinnovator @2be2learn never could even explain what I do to mom/dad. #lrnchat https://t.co/JO5HUDGobe
9:24 PM urbie #lrnchat A5 Almost forgot, #ed103 #ed113 @staciecgreen are cool resources for fresh ways of looking at stuff.
9:24 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
9:25 PM shannongrahamtx @SimonBlairTrain it’s a gift and a curse. Shiny squirrels are everywhere. #lrnchat
9:25 PM lrnchat QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:25 PM JeremyDBond @urbie @aboutZPS so you like? #lrnchat
9:25 PM motay86 RT @Quinnovator: Bloom’s Taxonomy Critique by Brenda Sugrue: https://t.co/33I7O5U9fn #lrnchat
9:25 PM Quinnovator aX) btw, keep models (diagrams) on my mobile devices just to share when problem solving, very helpful #lrnchat
9:25 PM jsuzcampos RT @lrnchat QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:25 PM JustStormy @jsuzcampos some very wise person recommended “In Pursuit of Elegance…” #lrnchat
9:26 PM jyoti__gupta A7) everyone is reading as much as I am. phew! #lrnchat
9:26 PM JustStormy RT @Quinnovator: a7) to keep up my search to create or find new models #lrnchat
9:26 PM Elham_ab 4) when not relevant to context and needs. Simply adopted because everyone else used it #lrnchat
9:26 PM 2be2learn And so we all connect on #lrnchat ! https://t.co/oXgwn1iHgi
9:26 PM JustStormy RT @ryantracey: A7) I learned that many of us find models useful, but with a healthy dose of realism. #lrnchat
9:26 PM JeremyDBond A7) I learned more new models and why they aren’t really models so never mind. #lrnchat
9:26 PM ryantracey ShamelessPlug) The caveat of content curation https://t.co/sV0CKxCSQl ‘Til next time y’all!🙂 #lrnchat
9:26 PM jsuzcampos Oh, duh! Right! RT @JustStormy @jsuzcampos some very wise person recommended “In Pursuit of Elegance…” #lrnchat
9:26 PM Quinnovator aW) instigating at https://t.co/riPao8x0R5, blogging at https://t.co/Nm5yXCbV5R, available thru https://t.co/FfFRKPWUDT #lrnchat
9:26 PM SimonBlairTrain @Quinnovator @2be2learn I live in farm country. Not sure anybody around here knows what I do.🙂 #lrnchat
9:26 PM urbie #lrnchat A7 Sharing is caring.
9:26 PM CandiceCPLP A7) and no one mentioned competency models. Yay! #tiredofboxes #lrnchat
9:26 PM JD_Dillon Thanks #lrnchat! JD in Orlando. Hope to cya at #ATDTK. Until then https://t.co/8xKUK5eqMk https://t.co/IwnXD6g7eC
9:27 PM aboutZPS Another great hour. Thanks. Follow our blog at https://t.co/D298ZwaTJ7 #LrnChat
9:27 PM Quinnovator aW) hope to see you at Online Educa, either my mobile workshop, or just attending! #lrnchat
9:27 PM MrKMaston @lrnchat AWrap) Me, Sydney. Currently participating in #NaGaDeMon (and loving it), and enjoying these valuable #lrnchat sessions.
9:27 PM SimonBlairTrain @shannongrahamtx So my dogs keep telling me.🙂 #lrnchat
9:27 PM ryantracey @CandiceCPLP Ughh. #lrnchat
9:27 PM urbie #lrnchat Who’s participating in #ReimaginePD tonight at 9 pm PT? Ok, I know it’s late but it’s going to be *amazing*.
9:27 PM jyoti__gupta awrap) My latest blog post: 13 Types of Educational Conference Sessions: https://t.co/AkOiMcveRP #lrnchat #STEM #Education Good night!
9:27 PM JustStormy I need to read MORE! RT @jyoti__gupta: A7) everyone is reading as much as I am. phew! #lrnchat
9:27 PM twhalen805 Any chat where hogwash and hobgoblin are used, then I’m all for it. #lrnchat. I like the “Just Learn Stuff” Model.
9:28 PM shannongrahamtx @CandiceCPLP I still love competency models. I do. I heart them much. #lrnchat
9:28 PM aboutZPS @JD_Dillon I’ll be there too. See you then. #lrnchat
9:28 PM spreading_JAM RT @urbie: #lrnchat Who’s participating in #ReimaginePD tonight at 9 pm PT? Ok, I know it’s late but it’s going to be *amazing*.
9:28 PM JustStormy RT @lrnchat: QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:28 PM Elham_ab RT @lrnchat: Q5) How do you stay current with new or emerging models or frameworks? #lrnchat
9:28 PM CandiceCPLP Candice in Oregon, practicing Performance Support at https://t.co/Cqu0k41m4T #lrnchat
9:29 PM SimonBlairTrain @twhalen805 I’ll complete your trifecta with “hogtie”. As in “don’t get hogtied to a model that doesn’t work”. #lrnchat
9:29 PM lrnchat Thanks everyone for joining #lrnchat tonight. See you next week! Look for weekly transcripts at https://t.co/ijNIXq164N