Transcript – July 2, 2015: Thinking Through Complex Problems

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This Week’s Chat Questions

  • Why do we continue to seek simple solutions to complex problems?
  • When has this gotten you in trouble?
  • Describe how you worked through a complex answer to a complex problem?
  • Have/How have you ever combined different approaches to solving a problem to arrive at a superior solution?
  • What frameworks do you use to help yourself understand complexity?
  • How can we combat the idea of “one simple” answer to education, work collaboration, learning…?
  • What did you learn tonight?

Chat Transcript

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8:30 PM lrnchat Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
8:30 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
8:30 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
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8:31 PM lrnchat Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat
8:31 PM urbie #lrnchat Hey @lrnchat & all the ships at sea.. I’m doing okay.
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8:31 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat
8:31 PM sbruington . @lrnchat Do you have to ask? I’ve been longing for our glorious 60-minutes of collaboration and sharing for too many moons! #lrnchat
8:31 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
8:31 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat
8:32 PM SLDoyle67 #lrnchat Awesome! Lacrosse is done, football hasn’t started, & off to Maui next week!
8:32 PM lrnchat What are you READING these days? #lrnchat
8:32 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
8:32 PM JaneBozarth Pondering next edition of “social media for trainers” these days #lrnchat
8:32 PM urbie #lrnchat urbie instructional designer, 33.4500° N, 112.0667° W sketching out cartographic training maps for a nautical-related project
8:32 PM SLDoyle67 #lrnchat – Sharon from Calgary. Just finished first big project at new job. Ask me about lending basics!
8:32 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: What are you READING these days? #lrnchat
8:32 PM willconstantine Will Constantine, Creator of #LearnHaus Indian chef and @NNJASTD chapter president! #lrnchat
8:32 PM ryantracey Apart from blogs, I’ve been wading through On The Origin Of Species for the past year😛 #lrnchat
8:33 PM kregerck RT @lrnchat: Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat
8:33 PM Learning_Dude Stephen from Roanoke, Virginia, USA. Learning Strategist for @AnthemInc. I like to run. Trying to do 500 miles in 100 days. #lrnchat
8:33 PM JaneBozarth Reading Oliver Sacks autobiography #lrnchat
8:33 PM willconstantine Working on some testing and starting two major projects this month…life is good #lrnchat
8:33 PM kelly_smith01 Kelly Smith free-agent data stuff and learning #lrnchat
8:33 PM SLDoyle67 #lrnchat Reading a biography of Freud’s daughter.
8:33 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: What are you READING these days? #lrnchat
8:34 PM duchampian Duchampian in Savannah watching @AndrewReilley set up internet. #riveting #lrnchat
8:34 PM kregerck Hey #lrnchat! I’ve been away too long!
8:34 PM DrJessupS #lrnchat beautiful night. Looking forward to a day of butterfly photography tomorrow.
8:34 PM Learning_Dude Professionally, we’re about to launch an innovative collaboration tool for training. We now have req to use it for teams.🙂 #lrnchat
8:34 PM JaneBozarth @kregerck We noticed. Welcome back! #lrnchat
8:34 PM Salamanca52 #lrnchat Hi @lrnchat! Getting ready to dry run our new Social Media & Me course Thurs. Cutting a bunch of tiny app icons for an activity.
8:34 PM lrnchat Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:34 PM willconstantine I’m reading eLearning and the Science of Instruction and @chelseahandler Uganda Be Kidding Me #lrnchat
8:34 PM JaneBozarth @Salamanca52 ooh tell more? #lrnchat
8:34 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:34 PM annasabramowicz RT @lrnchat: What are you READING these days? #lrnchat
8:34 PM Learning_Dude @Salamanca52 @lrnchat Ha! Very cool. Interesting you’ll be delivering SoMe course in ILT. #lrnchat
8:35 PM urbie #lrnchat Presently reading He’s the Weird Teacher by @TheWeirdTeacher Doug Robertson
8:35 PM SLDoyle67 @kregerck #lrnchat – Me too!! So glad to be back
8:35 PM jennyucf @lrnchat Jenny from sunshine Florida. Started introducing Forum to work. Created Career Strategy session materials. Excited!#lrnchat
8:35 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:35 PM annasabramowicz RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:35 PM Learning_Dude A0) I’ve been waiting 4 this. Today I learned how to power cycle my MacBook. After trying literally everything else, that did it. #lrnchat
8:35 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:35 PM DrJessupS #lrnchat just started mind gym by dr. Sebastian Bailey.
8:35 PM kregerck Christine Kreger, Librarian and Professional Development Consultant from Denver. #lrnchat
8:35 PM Learning_Dude @jennyucf @lrnchat What is Forum? #lrnchat
8:35 PM Salamanca52 Julie 😉 Instructional Designer from Cleveland, OH USA 🇺🇸 #lrnchat
8:35 PM JaneBozarth @kregerck oh i’m in denver next week for http://t.co/uNABBvPfpK #lrnchat
8:36 PM kregerck RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:36 PM willconstantine Q0) I learned that sometimes you just have to write it down #lrnchat
8:36 PM urbie #lrnchat A0 What’d I learn this week? OMG where do I begin.. #iste15 was unattainable. But wait! There’s a solution: #notatiste15. +
8:36 PM Learning_Dude RT @willconstantine: Q0) I learned that sometimes you just have to write it down #lrnchat
8:36 PM SLDoyle67 #lrnchat – I learned it is possible to miss my 13 year old’s noise and smell when he’s not home
8:36 PM JaneBozarth @willconstantine ha. or tell alexa to write it down #lrnchat
8:36 PM duchampian Reading CMS Fraud, Wasted and Abused #lrnchat
8:36 PM ryantracey A0) I learned that human-centered design really works. #lrnchat
8:36 PM Learning_Dude @SLDoyle67 My youngest girls are 2 & 3. We’re convinced we won’t miss them when they start school. Yeah, right. #lrnchat
8:37 PM lrnchat Q1) Why do we continue to seek simple solutions to complex problems? #lrnchat
8:37 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why do we continue to seek simple solutions to complex problems? #lrnchat
8:37 PM jennyucf @lrnchat The New Social Learning. Millionnaire Mind. Triggers. Yoga Manuals. #lrnchat
8:37 PM JeremyDBond A0) Jeremy, parent & education/communications professional, learning to fit it all in and still have a summer. #lrnchat
8:37 PM willconstantine @JaneBozarth in waiting for Alexa to have a Twitter account #lrnchat
8:37 PM kregerck Huge fiction reader. My Goodreads challenge is 110 books this year. #lrnchat https://t.co/IEZXm2kU3B
8:37 PM Learning_Dude A1) If ever there were a silly question…why wouldn’t we?😉 #lrnchat
8:37 PM urbie #lrnchat A0 Oh yeah.. I just learned that having “just” in a sentence somehow lessons the message’s impact.
8:37 PM JaneBozarth q1 because the reality of the complexity intimidates us; it’s too much/too hard to confront. #lrnchat
8:37 PM kelly_smith01 Reading? Peer of Habit and some research on intuition, #lrnchat
8:37 PM JaneBozarth RT @kregerck: Huge fiction reader. My Goodreads challenge is 110 books this year. #lrnchat https://t.co/IEZXm2kU3B
8:38 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why do we continue to seek simple solutions to complex problems? #lrnchat
8:38 PM Learning_Dude A1) Seriously, simplicity allows for easier explanations, understanding, knowledge transfer. #lrnchat
8:38 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why do we continue to seek simple solutions to complex problems? #lrnchat
8:38 PM ryantracey A1) As a species, we’re inherently lazy? #lrnchat
8:38 PM annasabramowicz @urbie Yes! Lowers your credibility🙂 #lrnchat
8:38 PM Learning_Dude A1) The simpler a solution to a problem, the more problems we can solve. (Simple = Less Time?) #lrnchat
8:38 PM ryantracey RT @Learning_Dude: A1) The simpler a solution to a problem, the more problems we can solve. (Simple = Less Time?) #lrnchat
8:38 PM JeremyDBond A1) Because we’re on this Earth for such a limited time, and we’d prefer to solve problems while we’re here. #lrnchat
8:38 PM urbie #lrnchat A1 Maybe ‘cuz complex problems can be more easily solved by working them piecemeal: (little rocks out of big rocks).
8:39 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why do we continue to seek simple solutions to complex problems? #lrnchat
8:39 PM Learning_Dude A1) As humans, we’re naturally curious. In order to share our findings, we have to simplify what we know. #lrnchat
8:39 PM SLDoyle67 RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why do we continue to seek simple solutions to complex problems? #lrnchat
8:39 PM jennyucf @MatthewFarber @lrnchat @JaneBozarth What is one thing you can share from the book? #lrnchat
8:39 PM annasabramowicz @JeremyDBond I like that – nicely said. #lrnchat
8:39 PM DrJessupS A0) optimists live longer. #lrnchat
8:39 PM urbie #lrnchat A1 So the way to solve a complex problem just might be to solve a whole lotta simple ones first. #justsaying
8:39 PM urbie RT @annasabramowicz: @urbie Yes! Lowers your credibility🙂 #lrnchat
8:39 PM livlab #lrnchat Q0) String formatting with % in Python. Sort of.🙂
8:40 PM JeremyDBond @ryantracey or that. #lrnchat
8:40 PM kelly_smith01 Q1) Simple solutions are easy to find and easy to blame in the event of failure #lrnchat
8:40 PM Learning_Dude A1) I think I’m trying to articulate a complex answer. Doh. #lrnchat
8:40 PM urbie @kregerck Hi Christine! Cool chatting with you again. #lrnchat
8:40 PM ryantracey RT @urbie: #lrnchat A1 So the way to solve a complex problem just might be to solve a whole lotta simple ones first. #justsaying
8:40 PM willconstantine Q1) due to research of the lack of critical thinking skills a lot of us might have we don’t know how to #deepthink ah ah 😏 #lrnchat
8:41 PM SLDoyle67 #lrnchat a1) we need to break it down into components we understand
8:41 PM kregerck RT @urbie: #lrnchat A1 So the way to solve a complex problem just might be to solve a whole lotta simple ones first. #justsaying
8:41 PM Learning_Dude Simple is easier. Complex is harder. Energy is finite. Time can’t be gotten back. We’re always trying to conserve. #lrnchat
8:41 PM livlab #lrnchat Q1) We hope to skip the hard work involved in making complexity clear by conflating clear with simple.
8:41 PM JaneBozarth RT @livlab: #lrnchat Q1) We hope to skip the hard work involved in making complexity clear by conflating clear with simple.
8:41 PM jennyucf @lrnchat A1)Simple is better. Info overloaded. Short attention span. Ask 5 whys and the root cause may not be complex. #lrnchat
8:41 PM kregerck RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why do we continue to seek simple solutions to complex problems? #lrnchat
8:41 PM Learning_Dude A1) It’s a matter of perspective. #lrnchat
8:41 PM ryantracey RT @willconstantine: Q1) due to research of the lack of critical thinking skills a lot of us might have we don’t know how to #deepthink ah …
8:42 PM urbie @annasabramowicz I’m trying to quit. It’s just that when something works for me I tend to stay with it. #lrnchat
8:42 PM DrJessupS A1) simple solutions are easier to implement. #lrnchat
8:42 PM Learning_Dude RT @DrJessupS: A1) simple solutions are easier to implement. #lrnchat
8:42 PM kregerck A1) To make it seem not so impossible. Our brains like to break things down. Chunk. #lrnchat
8:42 PM kregerck RT @Learning_Dude: Simple is easier. Complex is harder. Energy is finite. Time can’t be gotten back. We’re always trying to conserve. #lrnc…
8:42 PM annasabramowicz @urbie Hahahahaha😀 #lrnchat
8:43 PM JaneBozarth @kregerck these days i’m just psyched when I can get a direct flight West #lrnchat
8:43 PM lrnchat Q2) When has this gotten you in trouble? #lrnchat
8:43 PM ziolablu Q1) we’re trained that simple solutions are superior. #lrnchat
8:43 PM ryantracey A1) I’m agreeing with all these answers🙂 #lrnchat
8:43 PM duchampian A1) simplicity and elegance are counterpoint to disorder and dysfunction #lrnchat
8:43 PM Learning_Dude The more time and energy you “spend” on problems, the less you have for everything else. #lrnchat
8:43 PM Learning_Dude @duchampian Boom! Well said. #lrnchat
8:43 PM JaneBozarth q1 I’m not convinced our need for simple solutions comes from desire for efficiency/productivity… #lrnchat
8:43 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q2) When has this gotten you in trouble? #lrnchat
8:44 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q2) When has this gotten you in trouble? #lrnchat
8:44 PM annasabramowicz @JaneBozarth elaborate please…#lrnchat
8:44 PM Salamanca52 @JaneBozarth Overview Social Media history, how to build online presence & how employees can help @OnBase promote culture/recruit. #lrnchat
8:44 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q2) When has this gotten you in trouble? #lrnchat
8:44 PM Learning_Dude A2) Assuming I’ve reached the best solution, when actually I just gave up when it felt easier…not easiest. #lrnchat
8:44 PM ryantracey A2) When it’s complicated. #lrnchat
8:44 PM adkpiper A1 Simplicity is easier to debug. #lrnchat
8:44 PM kregerck RT @lrnchat: Q2) When has this gotten you in trouble? #lrnchat
8:44 PM JaneBozarth q1 thinking of one-off cure-alls like “tablets for all will fix education!!” or “3 easy ways to get rich!!” #lrnchat
8:44 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q2) When has this gotten you in trouble? #lrnchat
8:45 PM urbie #lrnchat A2 Trouble is a word best spelled with two ohs: trooble. It’s happened a lot where probslems & opportunities seem esp daunting.+
8:45 PM JaneBozarth @annasabramowicz just did #lrnchat
8:45 PM Learning_Dude A2) When I’ve attempted to solve problems alone. It’s hubris, I guess, but I don’t always have the [best] answer(s). #lrnchat
8:45 PM livlab #lrnchat Q2) The baby doesn’t stop crying because you simply say its hungry. Even if you are right.🙂
8:45 PM MoGoSheeks99 RT @ryantracey: Apart from blogs, I’ve been wading through On The Origin Of Species for the past year😛 #lrnchat
8:45 PM JaneBozarth RT @livlab: #lrnchat Q2) The baby doesn’t stop crying because you simply say its hungry. Even if you are right.🙂
8:45 PM kregerck A2) When we make wrong assumptions while trying to simplify. Can take you way off track! #lrnchat
8:45 PM ryantracey A2) When wishful thinking blinds me to reality. #lrnchat
8:45 PM willconstantine Q2) when trying to SOLVE a problem and not put a band aid over it thinking it will heal itself #lrnchat
8:46 PM kregerck RT @Learning_Dude: A2) Assuming I’ve reached the best solution, when actually I just gave up when it felt easier…not easiest. #lrnchat
8:46 PM JaneBozarth q2 miss something obvious; fail to recognize that problem exists in a system, miss other parts. Fall for myth of ‘best practices’ #lrnchat
8:46 PM Learning_Dude Mmmm. Lots of good stuff coming out of #lrnchat already!🙂
8:46 PM JaneBozarth RT @kregerck: A2) When we make wrong assumptions while trying to simplify. Can take you way off track! #lrnchat
8:46 PM ziolablu Q2) At times the elegant solution makes you deceive yourself by pretending challenging factors don’t matter. #lrnchat
8:46 PM urbie #lrnchat A2 So lately I’ve been using smaller words with fewer syllables. In a verbose world the succinct is suspect.
8:46 PM JaneBozarth @Learning_Dude Good to see you, by the way, Mr. Dude. #lrnchat
8:46 PM ryantracey RT @kregerck: A2) When we make wrong assumptions while trying to simplify. Can take you way off track! #lrnchat
8:46 PM kmarranzino Hey #lrnchat -ers, sorry I’m late. I was getting a head start on holiday weekend <nudge-nudge, wink-wink>.
8:46 PM JeremyDBond @Learning_Dude I wonder if “everything else” is a “problem” too. Everything we do involves navigating around potential obstacles. #lrnchat
8:46 PM Learning_Dude @JaneBozarth Hey, lady! #lrnchat
8:47 PM ryantracey RT @willconstantine: Q2) when trying to SOLVE a problem and not put a band aid over it thinking it will heal itself #lrnchat
8:47 PM adkpiper A2 I think we sometimes pursue simplicity AND complexity for their own sake rather than bc they solve some specific real problem. #lrnchat
8:47 PM JaneBozarth @ziolablu yes! we fall in love w our own solution, even if it’s way wrong #lrnchat
8:47 PM JaneBozarth RT @adkpiper: A2 I think we sometimes pursue simplicity AND complexity for their own sake rather than bc they solve some specific real prob…
8:47 PM Learning_Dude A2) When I looked at opportunities as problems. #lrnchat
8:47 PM Learning_Dude Rather, when I saw opportunities as problems. #lrnchat
8:47 PM JaneBozarth Sometimes we frame problems in a way that pretty much ensures they can’t be solved. #lrnchat
8:47 PM DrJessupS A2) not taking all the variables into consideration before making a decision. #lrnchat
8:47 PM MatthewFarber @jennyucf @lrnchat @JaneBozarth Aquarium from David Vann is compelling fiction, with pictures, too #lrnchat
8:47 PM kregerck RT @ryantracey: A2) When wishful thinking blinds me to reality. #lrnchat
8:47 PM kregerck RT @livlab: #lrnchat Q2) The baby doesn’t stop crying because you simply say its hungry. Even if you are right.🙂
8:48 PM Learning_Dude @JeremyDBond Touche, Mr. Bond. *spoken with an English accent, of course* #lrnchat
8:48 PM urbie #lrnchat A2 No worries..trouble’s been mostly in my head. It’s happening more that my #designthinking ideas get taken seriously the 1st time
8:48 PM kmarranzino A1) maybe because if we can simplify the complex successfully, the complex becomes more accessible #lrnchat
8:48 PM JeremyDBond This. All the time. #lrnchat https://t.co/FSEHKPf80r
8:49 PM tanvi_gautam #lrnchat when pace of change outruns our response capability- we simplify !
8:49 PM JaneBozarth RT @JeremyDBond: This. All the time. #lrnchat https://t.co/FSEHKPf80r
8:49 PM tbresnahan1 #LrnChat we seek simple solutions to not make complex ?’s or situations even more complex. I always like -Keep It Simple Solution method.
8:49 PM urbie #lrnchat A2 Takeaway has to do with “Seek first to understand before being understood.” Simple jumpstarts conversations. A good thing.
8:49 PM JaneBozarth @kmarranzino but is grabbing simple answers the same as simplifying the complex? #lrnchat
8:49 PM Learning_Dude I’ve been known to downplay the severity, or seriousness, of a problem. That gets me into trouble. #lrnchat
8:50 PM kmarranzino A2) When we over-simplify and miss critical pieces. #lrnchat
8:50 PM lrnchat Q3) Describe how you worked through a complex answer to a complex problem? #lrnchat
8:50 PM Learning_Dude A3) Ah. The real 140-character-limit challenge begins! #lrnchat
8:50 PM jennyucf @MatthewFarber @lrnchat @JaneBozarth Thanks for sharing Matthew and Jane! #lrnchat
8:51 PM kregerck RT @lrnchat: Q3) Describe how you worked through a complex answer to a complex problem? #lrnchat
8:51 PM Learning_Dude Problem > Identified > Verified > Solution > Explain > Verified > Understood > Implemented > Measured > Recliner #lrnchat
8:51 PM JaneBozarth How a Topic is Born: Tonight’s chat started w article touting storytelling as magic answer to STEM educ challenges. #lrnchat
8:51 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q3) Describe how you worked through a complex answer to a complex problem? #lrnchat
8:51 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q3) Describe how you worked through a complex answer to a complex problem? #lrnchat
8:51 PM ziolablu Q3) I do a lot of mapping, to try and get a view of the big picture before I tackle what is manageable. #lrnchat
8:52 PM kregerck A3) It usually starts coming together when I talk to others about it. Many minds. #lrnchat
8:52 PM ryantracey A3) Step 1: Hear from all the stakeholders. #lrnchat
8:52 PM JaneBozarth RT @ziolablu: Q3) I do a lot of mapping, to try and get a view of the big picture before I tackle what is manageable. #lrnchat
8:52 PM Learning_Dude A3) Models seem to be helpful, as long as they’re validated as understood by several sources. #lrnchat
8:52 PM SLDoyle67 Q3 – lots of sticky notes, white boards, grouping, narrowing, tweaking…getting it all “out there” to see all the parts #lrnchat
8:52 PM JeremyDBond @JaneBozarth Discovering one’s own #BestPractices is useful. The myth is that they work best for everybody in unlike situations. #lrnchat
8:52 PM ryantracey RT @kregerck: A3) It usually starts coming together when I talk to others about it. Many minds. #lrnchat
8:52 PM kregerck RT @JaneBozarth: How a Topic is Born: Tonight’s chat started w article touting storytelling as magic answer to STEM educ challenges. #lrnch…
8:52 PM Learning_Dude A3) Otherwise you’re just making abstract art that won’t make sense until after you’re dead. #lrnchat
8:52 PM ziolablu @Learning_Dude that was impressive. #lrnchat
8:52 PM JaneBozarth @ryantracey and being careful to find out who the REAL stakeholders are. #lrnchat
8:52 PM McGough3R A3: Complex problem solving requires the right music and incense to start with and then being open to a unique solution. #lrnchat
8:52 PM urbie #lrnchat A3 We.
8:53 PM ryantracey RT @JaneBozarth: @ryantracey and being careful to find out who the REAL stakeholders are. #lrnchat
8:53 PM kregerck RT @Learning_Dude: Problem > Identified > Verified > Solution > Explain > Verified > Understood > Implemented > Measured > Recliner #lrnchat
8:53 PM McGough3R RT @JaneBozarth: How a Topic is Born: Tonight’s chat started w article touting storytelling as magic answer to STEM educ challenges. #lrnch…
8:53 PM Learning_Dude . @ziolablu Back at you. You’re #lrnchat-ing from your iPhone. Impressive!😉
8:53 PM JaneBozarth @JeremyDBond yes. the myth is the transfer part #lrnchat
8:53 PM Learning_Dude @ziolablu …and thank you, Melissa.😉 #lrnchat
8:53 PM ryantracey A3) Define the problem you are trying to solve, explicitly. #lrnchat
8:53 PM adkpiper A3 I find it helpful to *expect* that solving complex problems will require reworking several incorrect assumptions along the way. #lrnchat
8:53 PM JaneBozarth RT @adkpiper: A3 I find it helpful to *expect* that solving complex problems will require reworking several incorrect assumptions along the…
8:53 PM Salamanca52 A3) We reserve a mtg room at the end of the day, order food, open a bottle of wine, and brainstorm the complex issue together. #lrnchat
8:53 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q3) Describe how you worked through a complex answer to a complex problem? #lrnchat
8:53 PM JaneBozarth @adkpiper i know this will surprise everyone but I’m not very patient. #lrnchat
8:53 PM Learning_Dude @adkpiper I love that. I refer to it as getting messy. Just throw stuff out there, work through it and iterate. #lrnchat
8:54 PM McGough3R @kregerck Crowdsourcing is a great problem solution strategy. #lrnchat #minitech
8:54 PM jennyucf @lrnchat Using simple and short words?! lol #lrnchat
8:54 PM adkpiper @JaneBozarth my jaw just hit the floor. #lrnchat
8:54 PM McGough3R RT @JeremyDBond: @JaneBozarth Discovering one’s own #BestPractices is useful. The myth is that they work best for everybody in unlike situa…
8:54 PM JaneBozarth so… taking time to think through, leaving room for revising assumptions… #lrnchat
8:54 PM MrKMaston Sad to be missing today’s @lrnchat, but not sad about spending such a beautiful day outside! #recharge #lifebeinit #lrnchat
8:54 PM McGough3R @JeremyDBond @JaneBozarth So true! #lrnchat
8:54 PM JaneBozarth @adkpiper right? #lrnchat
8:54 PM kelly_smith01 RT @JaneBozarth: @ryantracey and being careful to find out who the REAL stakeholders are. #lrnchat
8:54 PM Learning_Dude @JaneBozarth @adkpiper *insert kitschy GIF* #lrnchat
8:54 PM TheWeirdTeacher RT @urbie: #lrnchat Presently reading He’s the Weird Teacher by @TheWeirdTeacher Doug Robertson
8:54 PM tbresnahan1 #LrnChat A2 When trying to complete certain tasks or projects without clearly thinking it through. Some decisions are simple- some complex.
8:54 PM ryantracey A3) Something about how to eat an elephant… #lrnchat
8:55 PM kmarranzino @JaneBozarth I don’t think so. Simplification requires deep understanding so you can both explain it simply & chunk it logically. #lrnchat
8:55 PM urbie #lrnchat A3 Complex problems are the way they are because of how perceive them. One pair o’ eyes & a mind on a vexing problem is constraint.
8:55 PM JaneBozarth I time travel back to Q1 to say: “I got other stuff to do can we please get this resolved and move on?” #lrnchat
8:55 PM JaneBozarth RT @urbie: #lrnchat A3 Complex problems are the way they are because of how perceive them. One pair o’ eyes & a mind on a vexing problem is…
8:56 PM JaneBozarth @kmarranzino well, right. q1 asked why we look for simple solutions #lrnchat
8:56 PM adkpiper @JaneBozarth You’re the one in charge of when @lrnchat asks the questions…😉 move on at will! #lrnchat #notwhatyoumeant
8:56 PM siddharthnagpal A3 Break down complexity into smaller simpler pieces and then build solution bottom up #lrnchat
8:56 PM kmarranzino RT @lrnchat: Q3) Describe how you worked through a complex answer to a complex problem? #lrnchat
8:56 PM Learning_Dude I’m tackling a complex problem now. I don’t feel well – not sure why – and the kids are eating pizza. Mmmm. Oh. Ugh.😦 #lrnchat
8:56 PM McGough3R @jennyucf @lrnchat Sometimes it’s about clearing out all that makes an issue complex to find simple solutions. #lrnchat #minitech
8:56 PM JeremyDBond .@urbie Scientists are allowed to speak complexly. Some are unconvinced that what we do (#education, parenting, etc.) is a science. #lrnchat
8:56 PM tanvi_gautam #lrnchat complex problems require one to have an opposable mind as Roger Martin’s book notes
8:56 PM McGough3R RT @urbie: #lrnchat A3 Complex problems are the way they are because of how perceive them. One pair o’ eyes & a mind on a vexing problem is…
8:56 PM adkpiper Worth differentiating between naive simplicity and expert simplicity. #lrnchat
8:56 PM Learning_Dude A3) It helps to define a vision for the future; solution to the problem, if you will. Then don’t lose sight of that. #lrnchat
8:56 PM 4KM Joining #lrnchat late; hope it’s ok.
8:57 PM McGough3R RT @Learning_Dude: I’m tackling a complex problem now. I don’t feel well – not sure why – and the kids are eating pizza. Mmmm. Oh. Ugh.😦 …
8:57 PM lrnchat Q4) Have/How have you ever combined different approaches to solving a problem to arrive at a superior solution? #lrnchat
8:57 PM JeremyDBond @kmarranzino ah. Fireworks. #lrnchat
8:57 PM JaneBozarth @4KM well, provided you brought cupcakes. #lrnchat
8:57 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q4) Have/How have you ever combined different approaches to solving a problem to arrive at a superior solution? #lrnchat
8:57 PM perrinia Mapping (esp. the action type) all the way. also asking what you want learners to DO #lrnchat
8:57 PM 4KM A3 I often use diverse groups and problem-based learning to help clients with #complex problems #lrnchat
8:57 PM urbie #lrnchat A3 35+ years ago w/Navy on Diego Garcia a PDP-11 died. Experts were 9,000 miles “over that way”. Conversation over MARS: a start..
8:57 PM kmarranzino A3) By breaking down the question and the subsequent answer into smaller components. #lrnchat
8:57 PM DrJessupS A3) lots of iteration. #lrnchat
8:58 PM willconstantine @JaneBozarth @adkpiper poor Alexa #lrnchat
8:58 PM JaneBozarth @adkpiper let’s talk about that? Say more ? #lrnchat
8:58 PM adkpiper One looks at the problem and sees an easy solution. The other looks at the complexity and uncovers a simple solution after study. #lrnchat
8:58 PM JaneBozarth RT @adkpiper: One looks at the problem and sees an easy solution. The other looks at the complexity and uncovers a simple solution after st…
8:58 PM kregerck RT @lrnchat: Q4) Have/How have you ever combined different approaches to solving a problem to arrive at a superior solution? #lrnchat
8:58 PM urbie #lrnchat A3 Opening up to others and asking their help is the best way I know of making mole hills out of mountains. Each takes a slice.
8:58 PM sbruington . @lrnchat Problems can often be broken down. Different solutions might work for different parts of a problem. #lrnchat
8:58 PM jennyucf @McGough3R @lrnchat Good point! #lrnchat
8:58 PM 4KM A3 I actually find it risky to define to define complex problems tightly too early in the process #lrnchat
8:58 PM Learning_Dude RT @urbie: #lrnchat A3 Opening up to others and asking their help is the best way I know of making mole hills out of mountains. Each takes …
8:58 PM Learning_Dude @4KM Good point. #lrnchat
8:59 PM adkpiper Example: it’s easy for me to adjust my student’s bagpipe reeds. I have 16 years of practice knowing what needs to be done. Simple. #lrnchat
8:59 PM kregerck A4) All my solutions are superior…not! #lrnchat
8:59 PM kmarranzino @JaneBozarth oh! Did I mention I got a head start on the weekend…?😉 #lrnchat
8:59 PM Learning_Dude A4) I’ve found the best way is to involve other people. BOOM! Different approaches because no two minds think alike. #lrnchat
8:59 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q4) Have/How have you ever combined different approaches to solving a problem to arrive at a superior solution? #lrnchat
8:59 PM 4KM @JaneBozarth With sprinkles! #lrnchat
8:59 PM ryantracey A4) Have two groups work on it independently, then re-group to compare notes. #lrnchat
8:59 PM kregerck RT @urbie: #lrnchat A3 Opening up to others and asking their help is the best way I know of making mole hills out of mountains. Each takes …
8:59 PM ziolablu Q4) The best solutions pull in diverse experiences, strict adherence to one mode is problematic. #lrnchat
9:00 PM urbie #lrnchat A3 An aircraft carrier or Intel Pentium factory started out as someone’s shiny object. Bunches n bunches of helpers made ’em real.
9:00 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q4) Have/How have you ever combined different approaches to solving a problem to arrive at a superior solution? #lrnchat
9:00 PM SLDoyle67 Thanks for letting me play. Dinner’s ready. Will chat next week from Maui! Aloha #lrnchat
9:00 PM siddharthnagpal A4 Creative solutions are derived from creative problem solving approaches #lrnchat
9:00 PM Learning_Dude A4) You may be *req to have diff solutions (i.e., browser incompatibility). Knowing your audience/customers is crucial. #lrnchat
9:00 PM JaneBozarth @kregerck @urbie agreed. people will usually help. #lrnchat
9:00 PM adkpiper If my student saw a simple solution, it would draw on less expertise and *might* understand different/fewer things. #lrnchat
9:00 PM tbresnahan1 #lrnchat A3 Like to collaborate w/others to work through difficult & complex situations. Too many smart people not to get input -leadership
9:00 PM kmarranzino @JaneBozarth Because complexity is hard?😉 #lrnchat
9:00 PM ryantracey @Learning_Dude Real diversity. #lrnchat
9:00 PM 4KM Yes, I think mixed methods help a lot with complexity: alternate divergence and convergence #lrnchat
9:01 PM sbruington . @lrnchat Like it or not, there are two sides to every coin. Always. Flip the damn thing over. #lrnchat
9:01 PM JeremyDBond 140-character genius. #lrnchat https://t.co/a8eDbhsiAP
9:01 PM siddharthnagpal A4 We solved a Talent Acquisition problem using concepts of supply chain and marketing /branding #lrnchat
9:01 PM kmarranzino @JeremyDBond Yes! Of course! What else would it be?!?! #lrnchat
9:01 PM JaneBozarth RT @siddharthnagpal: A4 We solved a Talent Acquisition problem using concepts of supply chain and marketing /branding #lrnchat
9:01 PM Learning_Dude @JeremyDBond Double-favorite, my man. Thanks for the kind words! #lrnchat
9:02 PM 4KM With complex problems, the “right” answer this month might not be next month. Good to develop capacity & agility #lrnchat
9:02 PM JaneBozarth RT @4KM: With complex problems, the “right” answer this month might not be next month. Good to develop capacity & agility #lrnchat
9:02 PM Learning_Dude @siddharthnagpal Very cool. #lrnchat
9:02 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q4) Have/How have you ever combined different approaches to solving a problem to arrive at a superior solution? #lrnchat
9:02 PM kregerck RT @Learning_Dude: A4) You may be *req to have diff solutions (i.e., browser incompatibility). Knowing your audience/customers is crucial. …
9:02 PM JaneBozarth @4KM true– and be careful not to keep applying old answers. #lrnchat
9:02 PM tbresnahan1 #lrnchat A3 Good leaders use other people’s strengths to sure up one’s weaknesses -we hall have certain strengths – tap into them. #edchat
9:02 PM kregerck RT @ryantracey: A4) Have two groups work on it independently, then re-group to compare notes. #lrnchat
9:02 PM livlab #lrnchat Q3) Exploring different visualizations for the same problem so each exposed a different issue/facet more prominently.
9:03 PM adkpiper Yes. It’s partly about the simplicity and partly that what looks like a valid solution depends on where you stand and what you see. #lrnchat
9:03 PM JaneBozarth RT @adkpiper: Yes. It’s partly about the simplicity and partly that what looks like a valid solution depends on where you stand and what yo…
9:03 PM Learning_Dude A4) Get to a certain point. Sleep. Get to another point. Sleep. Repeat. Don’t kill yourself solving problems. You’ll die. #lrnchat
9:03 PM kmarranzino RT @lrnchat: Q4) Have/How have you ever combined different approaches to solving a problem to arrive at a superior solution? #lrnchat
9:03 PM tbresnahan1 RT @siddharthnagpal: A4 Creative solutions are derived from creative problem solving approaches #lrnchat
9:03 PM JaneBozarth Imma go all crazy and say sometimes people agree to solution because it’s boss’s. #lrnchat
9:03 PM ryantracey A4) “What would X do?” shakes the tree. #lrnchat
9:04 PM Learning_Dude . @Learning_Dude Oh, and the problems will still be there for someone else to solve while you’re 6-feet under. #lrnchat
9:04 PM livlab #lrnchat Q4) Exploring a solution collaboratively. The ways others find to explain the same thing reveal better combinations to answers.
9:04 PM Learning_Dude @JaneBozarth *insert MORE kitschy GIF than before*😉 #lrnchat
9:04 PM 4KM Find ways of shaking up expert knowledge (passionate diverse groups help) #complexity #lrnchat
9:04 PM ziolablu @Learning_Dude the lost art of thinking. #lrnchat
9:04 PM willconstantine @Learning_Dude sleeping and 6 feet under are two different things… #lrnchat
9:05 PM JaneBozarth sometimes ask someone completely removed from problem. Ask an 8 year old. Ask barista. #lrnchat
9:05 PM Learning_Dude @livlab I love this! This is the essence of working out loud. Knowing HOW is such a learning oppty! #lrnchat #WOL
9:05 PM ryantracey Surely we don’t need solutions anyway. We need photos of eagles soaring. #lrnchat
9:05 PM adkpiper @JaneBozarth is this where we say “GOOD POINT”?🙂 #lrnchat
9:05 PM kregerck RT @JaneBozarth: Imma go all crazy and say sometimes people agree to solution because it’s boss’s. #lrnchat
9:05 PM lrnchat Q5) What frameworks do you use to help yourself understand complexity? #lrnchat
9:05 PM 4KM A4 I like to have participants generate powerful questions as launch pads to subsequent activities #lrnchat
9:05 PM Learning_Dude @kregerck …and then you wake up. #lrnchat
9:05 PM siddharthnagpal A4 Prototyping – Trial running – Measuring results – Fine tuning is an endless loop #lrnchat
9:05 PM urbie #lrnchat A4 A long time ago in a career far away a LAM etcher http://t.co/v9GGfZ7ybF died. Kumbaya moment: holding hands and brainstorming.
9:05 PM ziolablu @JaneBozarth I almost always go with the boss’ answer. It’s a survival skill. #lrnchat
9:05 PM JaneBozarth RT @ziolablu: @JaneBozarth I almost always go with the boss’ answer. It’s a survival skill. #lrnchat
9:05 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q5) What frameworks do you use to help yourself understand complexity? #lrnchat
9:06 PM Learning_Dude @willconstantine True. I can’t tell if you’re joking. I’m simply saying if you kill yourself, you’re dead and underground. #lrnchat
9:06 PM JeremyDBond Eek, “problems” of bedtime. Gotta go. #lrnchat
9:06 PM Learning_Dude @willconstantine Maybe I’m trying to hard. (Can we get 200-characters here, please?) #lrnchat
9:06 PM adkpiper I like the Engineering Effective Performance models for helping me pay attention to different aspects of the situation. #lrnchat
9:06 PM DrJessupS A4) cross domain thinking. #lrnchat
9:06 PM kregerck RT @JaneBozarth: sometimes ask someone completely removed from problem. Ask an 8 year old. Ask barista. #lrnchat
9:06 PM willconstantine @JaneBozarth ask Alexa #lrnchat
9:06 PM JaneBozarth @adkpiper Lately I’ve seen some make decisions that were like a new ad for Bad Idea jeans. #ohthatdatesme #lrnchat
9:06 PM kregerck RT @lrnchat: Q5) What frameworks do you use to help yourself understand complexity? #lrnchat
9:06 PM 4KM @JaneBozarth As lots of us shake our heads trying to remove memories of top down “solutions” #lrnchat
9:06 PM adkpiper A5 I like the Engineering Effective Performance models for helping me pay attention to different aspects of the situation #lrnchat
9:06 PM Learning_Dude A4) Explain the problem(s) to someone else. In formulating your thoughts, you might gain insights you hadn’t considered. #lrnchat
9:07 PM JaneBozarth @4KM srsly #lrnchat
9:07 PM urbie #lrnchat A5 Two frameworks. #designthinking & putting on my #PositiveDeviant ball-cap (which btw I lost at #mLearnCon).
9:07 PM tbresnahan1 @siddharthnagpal Agree. Step outside the box sometimes to solve issues. Schools need to do this http://t.co/RCa9IkOLcO needs of S’s #lrnchat
9:07 PM kmarranzino @JaneBozarth <GASP!!!> That happens?!?! #lrnchat
9:07 PM Learning_Dude I just want to say, “I love you” to my wife, @saysayok. While I’m #lrnchat-ing, she’s putting the kids in bed.🙂
9:08 PM livlab #lrnchat Q5) I’ve started using concept maps lots. Defining terms really helps cement my understanding of a domain http://t.co/YHc5cDe2TS
9:08 PM 4KM Once had a firefighter absolutely shocked that the best ideas came from a woman in housing. #lrnchat
9:08 PM JaneBozarth @urbie and yes– what would positive deviant do? https://t.co/utTt72Gft7 #lrnchat
9:08 PM Learning_Dude @kmarranzino @JaneBozarth Where’s the GIF? I need to laugh at a GIF! #lrnchat
9:08 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q5) What frameworks do you use to help yourself understand complexity? #lrnchat
9:08 PM urbie #lrnchat A5 The latter approach borrows heavily from #tlap (teach like a pirate).. being fearless and tossing ideas/observations out there.
9:08 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q5) What frameworks do you use to help yourself understand complexity? #lrnchat
9:08 PM tanvi_gautam A4: #lrnchat all the time ! Storytelling and statistics🙂
9:09 PM siddharthnagpal A5 1. Benchmarking 2. Value Stream mapping 3. Fish bone 4. 5 Why’s questioning #lrnchat
9:09 PM urbie #lrnchat A5 What she said.. https://t.co/PqS681Z0h4
9:09 PM ryantracey A5) Believe it or not, Lean’s DMAIC framework helps. A lot. #lrnchat
9:09 PM DrJessupS @ryantracey I have lots of pictures of Eagles soaring if you need some. 😃 #lrnchat
9:09 PM JaneBozarth Someone said mapping earlier. I often turn to pen/legal pad and try to sort columns, buckets, themes. #dissertation #lrnchat
9:09 PM 4KM Oh yes, and right up there with the boss’s pet solution to a complex problem is the “software solution” #lrnchat
9:09 PM kregerck RT @JaneBozarth: @urbie and yes– what would positive deviant do? https://t.co/utTt72Gft7 #lrnchat
9:09 PM adkpiper @siddharthnagpal Fish bone? #lrnchat
9:09 PM JaneBozarth @4KM that made me cry #lrnchat
9:10 PM Learning_Dude A5) Lists with pen on paper. I also like mind mapping (both on whiteboard and with software). #lrnchat
9:10 PM ziolablu A5) concept mapping and modeling, lately #lrnchat
9:10 PM tbresnahan1 #lrnchat A4 Must try multiple ways sometimes to solve complex issues – Have many tools in the toolbox. No two situations are the same
9:10 PM willconstantine @Learning_Dude Oh now I understand🙂 #lrnchat
9:10 PM 4KM A5) Lots. Snowden’s Cynefin, Ralph Stacey’s, Uhl-Bien’s complex leadership approaches and many others. I’m hooked. #lrnchat
9:11 PM ryantracey @DrJessupS I should qualify – eagles soaring alongside inspirational quotes🙂 #lrnchat
9:11 PM JaneBozarth Saw surgeons recently doing 3D modeling prior to planning surgery #lrnchat
9:11 PM adkpiper A5 I use de Bono’s Six Thinking Hats model a lot and find it helpful. Here’s my summary: http://t.co/xud7W5470m #lrnchat
9:11 PM Learning_Dude @4KM Good stuff. New to me, mostly. Thank you! This is what #lrnchat-ing is all about.🙂
9:11 PM 4KM A5 Also find social network analysis and org network analysis very helpful #lrnchat
9:11 PM jennyucf @lrnchat A4)I found this question complex to answer…. :) #lrnchat
9:12 PM siddharthnagpal @4KM Yes all these are new to me #lrnchat
9:12 PM ryantracey A5) I’ve proposed a framework for content curation http://t.co/x74eBVxQPl #earlyplug #lrnchat
9:12 PM Learning_Dude A5) I feel like I’m shopping genius here; cherry-picking the best stuff and bingeing on new knowledge! #lrnchat
9:12 PM urbie #lrnchat A5 Also.. what he said. https://t.co/MMibspzVVP
9:12 PM JaneBozarth @jennyucf oh here let me make you a spreadsheet #lrnchat
9:12 PM urbie RT @adkpiper: A5 I use de Bono’s Six Thinking Hats model a lot and find it helpful. Here’s my summary: http://t.co/xud7W5470m #lrnchat
9:12 PM Learning_Dude @ryantracey I love that: ryan2point0. #lrnchat
9:13 PM lrnchat Q6) How can we combat the idea of “one simple” answer to education, work collaboration, learning…? #lrnchat
9:13 PM Salamanca52 @4KM I’m gonna need to Google these later tonight 😉 Thanks! #lrnchat
9:13 PM DrJessupS A5) paper napkins and scratch paper. #lrnchat
9:13 PM 4KM “Elevate yourself above ambiguity” #lrnchat http://t.co/ZO6PXcuKDu
9:13 PM ryantracey @4KM Have you done a SNA? #lrnchat
9:13 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q6) How can we combat the idea of “one simple” answer to education, work collaboration, learning…? #lrnchat
9:13 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q6) How can we combat the idea of “one simple” answer to education, work collaboration, learning…? #lrnchat
9:14 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q6) How can we combat the idea of “one simple” answer to education, work collaboration, learning…? #lrnchat
9:14 PM kregerck RT @lrnchat: Q6) How can we combat the idea of “one simple” answer to education, work collaboration, learning…? #lrnchat
9:14 PM jennyucf @JaneBozarth haha, great framework to get started…#lrnchat
9:14 PM ryantracey RT @Learning_Dude: A5) I feel like I’m shopping genius here; cherry-picking the best stuff and bingeing on new knowledge! #lrnchat
9:14 PM 4KM And there are complexity people in disguise as well, such as Helgesen and The Female Advantage #lrnchat http://t.co/18yiNfZF4C
9:14 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 What @ryantracey calls #rhizomatic learning. It has something to do with a plant’s root system..
9:15 PM burgessdave @urbie Thanks for the #tlap shout out, Urbie! Looking forward to having you host this coming week! #lrnchat
9:15 PM JaneBozarth RT @4KM: And there are complexity people in disguise as well, such as Helgesen and The Female Advantage #lrnchat http://t.co/18yiNfZF4C
9:15 PM Learning_Dude @4KM …and you asked if would be OK for you to stay after arriving late. Please, grace us weekly! #lrnchat
9:15 PM ryantracey @urbie It’s not my brain child, but yes🙂 #lrnchat
9:15 PM ziolablu A6) Accepting there are no magic pills, and putting in the work. Diet industry take note. #lrnchat
9:15 PM 4KM @ryantracey In small gigs and sandboxes. I know several people with more expertise as needed #lrnchat
9:16 PM kregerck Oh! New things to look up after tonight’s #lrnchat!
9:16 PM IDTInsights I’m getting so many great ideas from my first #lrnchat! Thanks everyone for sharing your knowledge and ideas!
9:16 PM adkpiper A6 I like divergent thinking exercises and the habit of analyzing strengths/weaknesses BEFORE investing in the solution. #lrnchat
9:16 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 The way I understand it you get up and walk around. Talk to others. Oxygenate your brain. Hydrate. It’ll come to you/team.
9:16 PM tbresnahan1 #lrnchat A6 How about using Bloom’s Taxonomy to help solve complexity? http://t.co/hq8477VLGp
9:17 PM ryantracey A6) Tell less, converse more. #lrnchat
9:17 PM 4KM Thanks @Learning_Dude I used to join regularly; #lrnchat dropped of my radar for a long time. I like this group.
9:17 PM livlab #lrnchat Q6) Show your work! Answers as articulations of thought process (process + outcome), not just an abstract artifact with no context!
9:17 PM kmarranzino A5) A matrix… or a #GearyRummler process flowchart with “swim lanes.” #lrnchat
9:17 PM JaneBozarth RT @livlab: #lrnchat Q6) Show your work! Answers as articulations of thought process (process + outcome), not just an abstract artifact wit…
9:18 PM ryantracey @tbresnahan1 I’d say it’s helpful when assessing someone’s understanding of it. #lrnchat
9:18 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 A complex problem’s solution just might be a bunch o’ people’s one simple answer. #rhizomes baby!
9:18 PM Hannah_Claire94 A6) by requiring students to share reasoning, applauding complex answers, and encouraging next thinking steps and collaboration. #lrnchat
9:18 PM willconstantine whoops ducked out for a bit #lrnchat
9:18 PM ryantracey @livlab You’re now in @janebozarth‘s good books. #lrnchat
9:18 PM ziolablu It also helps if we are students of our own history, and see things for what they are, not the package. #lrnchat
9:18 PM JaneBozarth @willconstantine alexa told me. I asked her to keep an eye on you. #lrnchat
9:18 PM 4KM “Solve complexity” is an important phrase when thinking about approaches. #lrnchat
9:18 PM kregerck RT @livlab: #lrnchat Q6) Show your work! Answers as articulations of thought process (process + outcome), not just an abstract artifact wit…
9:19 PM ryantracey A6) Insist on a contrarian POV. #lrnchat
9:19 PM kregerck RT @ryantracey: A6) Tell less, converse more. #lrnchat
9:19 PM JaneBozarth RT @ryantracey: A6) Insist on a contrarian POV. #lrnchat
9:19 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 Heard of #samr? Take a look-see.. https://t.co/4y3vxh6DFa
I’ve heard lots of good things about it.
9:20 PM Hannah_Claire94 A6) by starting with the simplistic components before moving to complex combos. Like moving from concrete ideas to abstract ones. #lrnchat
9:20 PM ryantracey @4KM I think it’s severely underrated in corp. #lrnchat
9:20 PM kmarranzino A6) Learn all you can about it until you have a deep enough understanding that you can explain the complexities… simply #lrnchat #irony
9:20 PM lrnchat Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
9:20 PM adkpiper A6 I like point of failure analysis: “what would have to go wrong for this system to fail?” #lrnchat
9:20 PM JaneBozarth remember q1. there are reasons people jump to simple solutions. try to address those. #lrnchat
9:20 PM tbresnahan1 #lrnchat A6 Education is way to complex to have one simple answer but if all decisions are in best interest of S’ s, it becomes more clear.
9:20 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
9:20 PM JaneBozarth @ryantracey @livlab oh yeah #lrnchat
9:20 PM 4KM @ryantracey @urbie I use principles from nature a lot in work w #complexity. Emphasis on interactions, synergies, flows #lrnchat
9:21 PM JaneBozarth RT @4KM: @ryantracey @urbie I use principles from nature a lot in work w #complexity. Emphasis on interactions, synergies, flows #lrnchat
9:21 PM willconstantine @JaneBozarth oh I have an idea @amazon allow Alexa to call to other people and we can speak through Alexa! #lrnchat
9:21 PM jaclynbstevens RT @urbie: #lrnchat A6 Heard of #samr? Take a look-see.. https://t.co/4y3vxh6DFa
I’ve heard lots of good things about it.
9:21 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
9:21 PM urbie #lrnchat A7 Reminded of the Ginzu Knife commercial.. circa 1978 https://t.co/iy4T2n8bUw
9:21 PM willconstantine Q7) I learned that solving a problem is solving problem #lrnchat
9:21 PM ziolablu A7) I have a lot of problem-solving models to look up🙂 #lrnchat
9:22 PM CaveoLearning Tin Can API and the Age of Informal #Learning http://t.co/pdsSQyyZ1t #atd #edtech #shrm #ispi #lrnchat
9:22 PM ryantracey A7) I’ve learned that *someone* has worked on social network analysis, ping @4KM #lrnchat
9:22 PM JaneBozarth RT @ziolablu: A7) I have a lot of problem-solving models to look up🙂 #lrnchat
9:22 PM lrnchat QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:22 PM JaneBozarth RT @ryantracey: A7) I’ve learned that *someone* has worked on social network analysis, ping @4KM #lrnchat
9:22 PM JaneBozarth RT @ryantracey: A7) I’ve learned that *someone* has worked on social network analysis, ping @4KM #lrnchat
9:22 PM adkpiper A7 Learned some new buzzwords to go look up! #lrnchat
9:22 PM 4KM Agree @ryantracey And SNA could help to replace un-helpful metrics. But the graphs frighten a lot of managers. #lrnchat
9:22 PM urbie #lrnchat A7 Slice n dice that complex problem into chunks that can be delegated.
9:22 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:22 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:22 PM JaneBozarth Q7 i want to learn more about social network analysis #lrnchat
9:22 PM ryantracey @4KM They have the most to lose! #lrnchat
9:22 PM livlab #lrnchat Q7) That I missed doing this Q&A after so many months. Thank you!🙂
9:22 PM tbresnahan1 #lrnchat A7 Great outlook and opinions from several educators. Some issues need simplicitic answers & some need more detail & collaboration
9:22 PM adkpiper A7 Hollis, performance improvement guy. I write at http://t.co/3n4iFCVHKL and love thinking about how systems work. #lrnchat
9:23 PM IDTInsights A7 I still have a lot to learn! I’m going to spend some time researching some of the concepts mentioned tonight! #lrnchat
9:23 PM ryantracey APlug) Please contribute your own recommendations… http://t.co/inNUE93QWs “5 papers every learning professional should read” #lrnchat
9:23 PM DrJessupS A7) things don’t seem so complex when your working with a group of diverse and dedicated learn chatters. #lrnchat
9:23 PM tbresnahan1 #lrnchat Thanks for a great chat. Have a good night.
9:23 PM kregerck That I have more to learn! (models etc) #lrnchat https://t.co/jhKK7gZEzy
9:23 PM urbie #lrnchat urbie delgado, instructional designer.. a rumor going ’round I’m helping to moderate a pirate chat this Sunday evening. More later.
9:23 PM JaneBozarth Keynoting Blended Learning Conf in Denver next week, then Online Learning, Devlearn, more.. And about that new book… #lrnchat
9:23 PM willconstantine QWrap) doing some research in learning informatics so be on the look out for a blog post this summer #lrnchat
9:23 PM Salamanca52 A7) This! #lrnchat Sent myself a note to research them first thing Monday morning! https://t.co/QZuzPNWgFv
9:24 PM ryantracey AWrap) Ryan from Sydney signing out. Thanks all! #lrnchat
9:24 PM kregerck RT @lrnchat: QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:24 PM tbresnahan1 RT @DrJessupS: A7) things don’t seem so complex when your working with a group of diverse and dedicated learn chatters. #lrnchat
9:25 PM MeliRodriguez67 RT @urbie: #lrnchat urbie delgado, instructional designer.. a rumor going ’round I’m helping to moderate a pirate chat this Sunday evening.…
9:25 PM 4KM She has gotten flack for being accessible (arguably not true to science) It’s too bad. We need poets. #lrnchat http://t.co/VnaG1WOGwv
9:25 PM willconstantine Everyone from America have a fantastic 4th of July weekend! #lrnchat
9:25 PM urbie #lrnchat Oh yeah, I’m enamored by recent #notatiste15 learning experience. I’m wondering what #NotAtDevLearn15 might look like. Interested?
9:25 PM kregerck Qwrap) Christine Kreger librarian and chair of the Colorado Association of Libraries Conference. Only 4 months out! Yikes🙂 #lrnchat
9:25 PM 4KM I learned that I miss this community and should bring cupcakes more often #lrnchat
9:26 PM kmarranzino A7) Ditto! #lrnchat https://t.co/SkddkSltC8
9:26 PM JaneBozarth @4KM we missed you too. Good to see you here. #lrnchat
9:26 PM Salamanca52 AWrap) Julie ~ Instructional Desiner @OnBase in Cleveland, OH #lrnchat
9:26 PM IDTInsights Grad student in Ed Tech at CSULA, Twitter newbie. http://t.co/FfB6PjPCdF is my site, but still working on it! #lrnchat
9:26 PM 4KM @ryantracey Or that is the only way they can process it in a win/lose framework? #lrnchat
9:27 PM urbie #lrnchat Last 14 days I’ve deepened learning/understanding of Pinterest & Periscope in back channel. Shoutout to @MrsPixel5 & @coburncori.
9:27 PM kregerck I also learned that I have been missing my #lrnchat peeps! Won’t stay away so long🙂 https://t.co/jhKK7gZEzy
9:27 PM JaneBozarth @IDTInsights New to twitter? Good for you for trying a chat. #lrnchat
9:28 PM JaneBozarth RT @urbie: #lrnchat Last 14 days I’ve deepened learning/understanding of Pinterest & Periscope in back channel. Shoutout to @MrsPixel5 & @c…
9:28 PM kmarranzino AWrap) Thanks all! Happy US Independence Day weekend to all my fellow ‘mericans! Git ‘er done! #lrnchat
9:28 PM ziolablu AWrap) instructional designer in higher Ed #lrnchat
9:28 PM JaneBozarth @urbie @MrsPixel5 @coburncori tell me more? #lrnchat
9:28 PM adkpiper @urbie @MrsPixel5 @coburncori More details please! #lrnchat
9:29 PM 4KM AWrap) Alice MacGillivray Straw bale home. #leadership #complexity #KM #learning and work with mid-career grad students. #lrnchat
9:29 PM nmarzano @lrnchat brainstorming works best when it’s brainwriting or cyberstorming #lrnchat
9:30 PM lrnchat Thanks everyone for joining #lrnchat tonight. See you next week! Look for weekly transcripts at http://t.co/ijNIXq164N