Transcript – April 16, 2015: “Dillution of Great Ideas”

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This Week’s Chat Questions

  • We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week?
  • How can we encourage people to understand a PLN is more than twitter followers?
  • How can we encourage people to understand that performance support is more than a job aid?
  • How can we encourage people to understand that mLearning is not just “a course on a phone”?
  • How can we encourage people to understand that social learning is not just social media?
  • What other great learning-related ideas have been diluted?
  • Why does the dilution happen? Why is there such a need to dilute new ideas?

Chat Transcript

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8:30 PM lrnchat Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
8:31 PM chriscarlson RT @lrnchat: #lrnchat happens tonight! We’re talking about dilution of great ideas. Join us! 8:30 pm ET,5:30-PT, Friday Oz
8:31 PM lrnchat Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat
8:31 PM Ruthie_HB RT @lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
8:31 PM danno4krist Oops, no laptop today, meaning no Tweetdeck, hope I’ll cope with my device 🙈#lrnchat
8:31 PM JLichtenberg RT @ChatSalad: Only 5 minutes to go ’til the #LrnChat chat. #ChatSalad
8:32 PM MelMilloway Hi Everyone at #lrnchat. I’m doing dandy and I am back from Thailand + fully back to my social media interactions. https://t.co/ztg2jY4pXa
8:32 PM urbie #lrnchat urbie, instructional designer somewhere in the vicinity of 33.3000° N, 111.8333° W #tlap
8:32 PM JD_Dillon RT @lrnchat: Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat
8:32 PM Ruthie_HB Hello #lrnchat! Ruth here. Learning enthusiast from upstate NY.
8:32 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
8:32 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: #lrnchat in 30 min! Tonight’s theme: “Dilution of Great Ideas”. Join us for tonight’s chat!
8:32 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat Been away for awhile- dabbling in the world of being an independent working on designing an expansion module for a new hire program
8:32 PM herbRcollins Stoked to return to #lrnchat. Been a while.
8:32 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
8:33 PM Tracy_Parish Hi #lrnchat – Tracy Parish, Newmarket, Ontario. ID in healthcare. reat to see eveyone again this evening.
8:33 PM danno4krist Daniel from SA, glad to be part of this today again… #lrnchat
8:33 PM JD_Dillon Howdy! JD in Orlando, FL stopping in for a bit. Learning geek, sharer, disappointed Flyers fan. #lrnchat
8:33 PM kmarranzino RT @lrnchat: Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat
8:33 PM JaneBozarth @herbRcollins Hiya Herb! Welcome back == #lrnchat
8:33 PM MelMilloway It’s officially Philly Tech Week tomorrow. I’m hoping to kick off some cool learning games this weekend. #lrnchat https://t.co/PAkTfKyiOv
8:34 PM lrnchat Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:34 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:34 PM kmarranzino .@herbRcollins Same here! #lrnchat
8:34 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:34 PM deacti_vate Hi #lrnchat! I dove head first into freelance! current passion project is an unnamed awesome course😀 https://t.co/l0vui8QmP3
8:34 PM Ruthie_HB RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:34 PM JaneBozarth Learned a lot about creating opportunities for serendipitous learning. #lrnchat
8:34 PM kmarranzino RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:35 PM deacti_vate Q0) This week I am reading Telling Ain’t Training, and diving into ILT! #lrnchat https://t.co/OWsxXlIiXB
8:35 PM urbie #lrnchat A0 Learned about something called ‘stakeholder mapping’
8:35 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:35 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat A0) I learned a ton about the organization that I’m partnering with on new project. Exciting and overwhelming – new terrain for me
8:35 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:35 PM Tracy_Parish I learned today about all the facets of a font. Thx to @elearningcoach and her new book – http://t.co/GlugMgmBc3 #lrnchat
8:35 PM blomquisteg A0) This week I learned a lot about the structure of different social media platforms like BuzzFeed, Pinterest, etc #lrnchat
8:35 PM MelMilloway A0 I started learning JS on Code Academy. #lrnchat https://t.co/3VsqpMMQ8V
8:35 PM willconstantine I learned that #lrnchat
8:36 PM Quinnovator time again for mindful mayhem: it’s #lrnchat! Duck or join.
8:36 PM NikkiDRobertson Is ur Twitter Chat going to #iste15? Tell us more! https://t.co/zwtn3WzdT5 #lrnchat
8:36 PM lrnchat Q1) How can we encourage people to understand a PLN is more than twitter followers? #lrnchat
8:36 PM jyoti__gupta #lrnchat a0) I learned today that, tho I’ve been a trainer for years, it was hard for me to distinguish basic from adv. training skills
8:36 PM danno4krist A0 Leant the difference between Blended learning, Technology Integration and Flipped Classroom #lrnchat
8:36 PM nickfloro Hello. Going to play and collaborate with #lrnchat community…outside Phila. Just got back from Chicago working on a secret learning app.
8:36 PM herbRcollins Learned that it’s OK to sometimes do nothing on a week day. #lrnchat #restore
8:36 PM JaneBozarth Q0 Learned so very much from Connie Malamed’s new “Visual Design Solutions” http://t.co/PISN7S4mEc #lrnchat
8:36 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can we encourage people to understand a PLN is more than twitter followers? #lrnchat
8:37 PM Ruthie_HB Q0) I learned always to double check with the nurse before they give your child a vaccine. #lrnchat
8:37 PM deacti_vate A1) Wait, you mean Twitter isn’t only about being popular? What am I even doing here?! #lrnchat https://t.co/yoQJXhtTMr
8:37 PM kmarranzino A0) Ken Marranzino, Learning Manager in fin. services industry. Re-learned this week that a good book can be detrimental to sleep. #lrnchat
8:37 PM Ruthie_HB RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can we encourage people to understand a PLN is more than twitter followers? #lrnchat
8:37 PM kelly_smith01 Learned that there is no end to new hire paperwork? #lrnchat
8:37 PM paul_learning A0) #lrnchat that sometimes you have to take the small win and be satisfied.
8:37 PM Tracy_Parish A1) I think sharing with others what you are learning & ALL the places you are learning from is one method.#lrnchat
8:37 PM JustRogering ROger, building adobe connect pods Dallas area Plano to be exact #lrnchat A0) learned new things about co workers.
8:37 PM willconstantine Time can be your best friend or your enemy! #lrnchat
8:37 PM urbie RT @JaneBozarth: Q0 Learned so very much from Connie Malamed’s new “Visual Design Solutions” http://t.co/PISN7S4mEc #lrnchat
8:37 PM JaneBozarth @blomquisteg say more? #lrnchat
8:37 PM Quinnovator Clark Quinn, L&D change instigator, consultant/author/speaker, Walnut Creek CA #lrnchat
8:37 PM nickfloro RT @JaneBozarth: Q0 Learned so very much from Connie Malamed’s new “Visual Design Solutions” http://t.co/PISN7S4mEc #lrnchat
8:37 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can we encourage people to understand a PLN is more than twitter followers? #lrnchat
8:37 PM Tracy_Parish RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can we encourage people to understand a PLN is more than twitter followers? #lrnchat
8:37 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can we encourage people to understand a PLN is more than twitter followers? #lrnchat
8:37 PM danno4krist A0 Leant I’m not in competition with others, I just must keep learning! #lrnchat
8:38 PM Ruthie_HB Q1) By showing the expanded relationships that comes from a PLN. #lrnchat
8:38 PM nickfloro Q1 Creating a community, interacting online, offline and everywhere to create a team to inspire, share and play (ok to have fun) #lrnchat
8:38 PM Quinnovator a1) Examples, case studies, great stories. Show how additional media has led to big wins #Lrnchat
8:39 PM deacti_vate A1) But forrealizies. Ask people what exactly they’re getting out of their so-called PLN. Is it enough? #lrnchat https://t.co/yoQJXhtTMr
8:39 PM Ruthie_HB RT @Tracy_Parish: A1) I think sharing with others what you are learning & ALL the places you are learning from is one method.#lrnchat
8:39 PM urbie #lrnchat A1 Maybe a Jeopardy activity?
8:39 PM paul_learning RT @Tracy_Parish: A1) I think sharing with others what you are learning & ALL the places you are learning from is one method.#lrnchat
8:39 PM willconstantine Will Constantine, LearnHaus, chef and learning archeologist #lrnchat
8:39 PM jyoti__gupta #lrnchat a1) Is it a matter of convincing? Or enabling? I think most people know they need more, just don’t know how to get there easily
8:39 PM Ruthie_HB RT @Quinnovator: a1) Examples, case studies, great stories. Show how additional media has led to big wins #Lrnchat
8:39 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can we encourage people to understand a PLN is more than twitter followers? #lrnchat
8:39 PM JaneBozarth Helping them understand PLN relationships. I have a lot of friends in the biz, but I don’t learn from all of them. #lrnchat
8:39 PM Quinnovator a1) analogize to their life, how do they learn amongst friends and colleagues that are proximal? #lrnchat
8:39 PM scogill @lrnchat hello #lrnchat – happy to catch tonight’s excitement, could use to learn a bit RE PLN! #BringItOn
8:39 PM Quinnovator RT @JaneBozarth: Helping them understand PLN relationships. I have a lot of friends in the biz, but I don’t learn from all of them. #lrnchat
8:40 PM willconstantine Q1) when the real relationship building and learning happens #lrnchat
8:40 PM herbRcollins Q1 Um… what is a PLN? #lrnchat
8:40 PM kmarranzino RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can we encourage people to understand a PLN is more than twitter followers? #lrnchat
8:40 PM jyoti__gupta @kelly_smith01 The things they make you sign these days… #lrnchat
8:40 PM JaneBozarth @herbRcollins Personal Learning Network #lrnchat
8:40 PM danno4krist Remember and be grateful to all who helped in several little ways, when you were not celebrated #lrnchat
8:40 PM urbie #lrnchat A1 Ask ’em where there PLN is/are.. maybe it is is all Twitter followers?
8:40 PM JustRogering @urbie I just made one of those #lrnchat
8:40 PM MelMilloway A PLN is definitely more than about followers and using SM strategically will help you learn more & more efficiently. #lrnchat
8:40 PM blomquisteg @JaneBozarth for starters, a group presented on BuzzFeed and reported the company is worth $850 million! #crazy #lrnchat
8:40 PM Ruthie_HB Q1) Introducing others to those in your PLN benefits everyone as well. #lrnchat
8:41 PM herbRcollins Thanks Jane! #lrnchat
8:41 PM paul_learning A1) That the people you learn from and the people you follow are not always the same people #lrnchat
8:41 PM JaneBozarth @scogill we did a whole chat on that not long ago, and @lnddave did some great blog posts earlier this year #lrnchat
8:41 PM jyoti__gupta @willconstantine #lrnchat What is a learning archeologist?
8:41 PM kkelsoe RT @NikkiDRobertson: Is ur Twitter Chat going to #iste15? Tell us more! https://t.co/zwtn3WzdT5 #lrnchat
8:41 PM KarMa_C4 RT @urbie: #lrnchat A1 Ask ’em where there PLN is/are.. maybe it is is all Twitter followers?
8:41 PM Ruthie_HB Q1) Share your learning but also share your PLN. #lrnchat
8:41 PM jyoti__gupta @herbRcollins #lrnchat PLN = Personal Learning Network
8:41 PM nickfloro Q0 Reading Creativity, Inc by pixar ceo ed catmull…full of stories, ideas + how they grew +stumbled getting there. Creativity. #lrnchat
8:42 PM urbie #lrnchat A1 It’s cool when, in the course of my PD travels, I meet up with someone(s) from Twitter. #justsayin
8:42 PM nickfloro RT @Quinnovator: a1) Examples, case studies, great stories. Show how additional media has led to big wins #Lrnchat
8:42 PM OU812Jensen RT @MelMilloway: A PLN is definitely more than about followers and using SM strategically will help you learn more & more efficiently. #lrn…
8:42 PM danno4krist . @JaneBozarth @herbRcollins PLN… Yeah and what is it? Maybe I just need to be clearer on its definition… #lrnchat
8:42 PM deacti_vate A1) Also, you learn a lot more when you take it out of the context of just 140 characters #lrnchat
8:42 PM blomquisteg RT @herbRcollins: Q1 Um… what is a PLN? #lrnchat
8:42 PM JustRogering @nickfloro Great read listen, Well mp3 on books 24×7 #lrnchat
8:42 PM willconstantine RT @jyoti__gupta: @herbRcollins #lrnchat PLN = Personal Learning Network
8:42 PM ryantracey RT @paul_learning: A1) That the people you learn from and the people you follow are not always the same people #lrnchat
8:43 PM JaneBozarth RT @paul_learning: A1) That the people you learn from and the people you follow are not always the same people #lrnchat
8:43 PM MelMilloway Don’t get me wrong because having followers is super important, esp. to raise awareness of our industry. #lrnchat
8:43 PM herbRcollins Q1 I have learned to guard my network but am happy to share with only some people. #lrnchat
8:43 PM Tracy_Parish Here’s a concept map I made for a MOOC I was in. Shows all of my “learning interconnections” in it. #lrnchat http://t.co/OUXvNdEp31
8:43 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat A1) both add value depending on the situation/project – I get a ton of value out of networking on Twitter, resources, advice, etc.,
8:43 PM ryantracey @MelMilloway Maybe get on a list?😉 #lrnchat
8:43 PM kelly_smith01 RT @willconstantine: Q1) when the real relationship building and learning happens #lrnchat
8:44 PM Ruthie_HB We are a part of it! #lrnchatters RT @jyoti__gupta: @herbRcollins #lrnchat PLN = Personal Learning Network
8:44 PM MelMilloway @danno4krist Social Media. #lrnchat
8:44 PM ryantracey Always powerful… FOMO – rt @Quinnovator a1) Examples, case studies, great stories. #lrnchat
8:44 PM theASIDEblog A PLN has nothing to do with collecting followers, but all to do with connecting with others. #lrnchat
8:44 PM Ruthie_HB RT @willconstantine: Q1) when the real relationship building and learning happens #lrnchat
8:44 PM kmarranzino A1) IT IS?!?!?! #lrnchat
8:44 PM JaneBozarth Helping them articulate specific idea/help they have offered or been given, and tracing that back to individuals/moments #lrnchat
8:44 PM MelMilloway @ryantracey Haha that’s the way. #lrnchat
8:44 PM Learning_Dude Hello, #lrnchat. Better late than never, I guess. Stephen from Roanoke, Virginia, USA. http://t.co/YlGtewyfYv
8:44 PM nickfloro @JustRogering Yes, I flip flop between the tablet and audible versions… based on where I am #lrnchat
8:44 PM JaneBozarth @theASIDEblog exactly #lrnchat
8:44 PM JaneBozarth RT @theASIDEblog: A PLN has nothing to do with collecting followers, but all to do with connecting with others. #lrnchat
8:45 PM Tracy_Parish Showcase the PEOPLE of your PLN. It’s them that really makes the network live/grow. #lrnchat
8:45 PM Learning_Dude A1) Show them the value of a PLN, and shift the vantage point from Twitter. #lrnchat
8:45 PM kelly_smith01 RT @Tracy_Parish: Here’s a concept map I made for a MOOC I was in. Shows all of my “learning interconnections” in it. #lrnchat http://t.co/…
8:45 PM theASIDEblog A PLN serves to support, engage, and challenge. #lrnchat
8:45 PM gevans119 RT @Tracy_Parish: Here’s a concept map I made for a MOOC I was in. Shows all of my “learning interconnections” in it. #lrnchat http://t.co/…
8:45 PM JaneBozarth @danno4krist @herbRcollins http://t.co/QWOqVGIk3U #lrnchat
8:45 PM nickfloro RT @Tracy_Parish: Here’s a concept map I made for a MOOC I was in. Shows all of my “learning interconnections” in it. #lrnchat http://t.co/…
8:45 PM Learning_Dude A1) Blog about it – the value of those connections you’ve made that are now your PLN. #lrnchat
8:46 PM nickfloro @Tracy_Parish So cool. #lrnchat Have to look closer…
8:46 PM Ruthie_HB RT @Tracy_Parish: Showcase the PEOPLE of your PLN. It’s them that really makes the network live/grow. #lrnchat
8:46 PM Tracy_Parish Don’t even mention a tool. #lrnchat https://t.co/p2Jn9tapYF
8:46 PM JaneBozarth RT @Learning_Dude: A1) Show them the value of a PLN, and shift the vantage point from Twitter. #lrnchat
8:46 PM JaneBozarth @Learning_Dude Hey Mr. Dude. How’s things? #lrnchat
8:46 PM nickfloro RT @Ruthie_HB: We are a part of it! #lrnchatters RT @jyoti__gupta: @herbRcollins #lrnchat PLN = Personal Learning Network
8:47 PM lrnchat Q2) How can we encourage people to understand that performance support is more than a job aid? #lrnchat
8:47 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can we encourage people to understand that performance support is more than a job aid? #lrnchat
8:47 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can we encourage people to understand that performance support is more than a job aid? #lrnchat
8:47 PM Learning_Dude @JaneBozarth Jane! All is well, my lady. How are you? #lrnchat
8:47 PM blomquisteg @Tracy_Parish can you elaborate? Are you talking about employees or the targeted market? #lrnchat
8:47 PM Ruthie_HB RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can we encourage people to understand that performance support is more than a job aid? #lrnchat
8:47 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can we encourage people to understand that performance support is more than a job aid? #lrnchat
8:47 PM lizsledpln A0 I virtually tutor an ELL, it can be extremely frustrating. Today I learned that with time, things can improve SO much! #lrnchat
8:47 PM jyoti__gupta http://t.co/2IBhuBtzfQ #lrnchat
8:47 PM kmarranzino RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can we encourage people to understand that performance support is more than a job aid? #lrnchat
8:47 PM MelMilloway @Learning_Dude It’s all about strategy for sure. Ppl probably think I’m weird becuz I follow almost everyone but it’s strategic. #lrnchat
8:47 PM theASIDEblog The beauty of a PLN is curation. You decide how to connect, and with whom. #lrnchat
8:47 PM Quinnovator a2) use examples, stories, case studies #heardthisbefore?). E.g. TurboTax. #lrnchat
8:47 PM scogill RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can we encourage people to understand that performance support is more than a job aid? #lrnchat
8:47 PM sbruington A1) Solve a real problem by leveraging your PLN. Give credit to those who helped you. Say to ‘people,’ “Told you so.” #lrnchat
8:47 PM JaneBozarth @Learning_Dude rockin, rollin, takin names… the usual #lrnchat
8:48 PM Learning_Dude @MelMilloway Shotgun? #lrnchat
8:48 PM Tracy_Parish Here’s all the connections at just #LS2011. Excellent PLN growth. http://t.co/P34G4FENqd #lrnchat
8:48 PM JD_Dillon A1) Attribute our learning. Share resources and insights from outside our org bubbles. #lrnchat https://t.co/2cfIvplWmI
8:48 PM MelMilloway A2 Give them real life samples of PS in their every day lives. #lrnchat https://t.co/bK2n2RI0l5
8:48 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat A1) still some fear from PLN around Twitter that it’s not value added – even with referrals, recommendations and tangible resources
8:48 PM jyoti__gupta a2) by discussing “more than job aid” solutions that work for others – this works! #lrnchat
8:48 PM scogill RT @theASIDEblog: The beauty of a PLN is curation. You decide how to connect, and with whom. #lrnchat
8:48 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can we encourage people to understand that performance support is more than a job aid? #lrnchat
8:48 PM Learning_Dude @MelMilloway I’m a horrible follow-back-er, but that’s because it takes time to figure someone out. #lrnchat
8:48 PM opurt11 Q2) Create more than just job aids as performance support. Quick videos, Help topics, wikis, etc. #lrnchat
8:48 PM urbie #lrnchat A2 Depends. Where’s the support com from? If it’s external and they didn’t have a hand in its creation then harder to call ‘mine’.
8:49 PM MelMilloway @Learning_Dude LOL. My bf kept asking me why I follow everyone who follows me. #lrnchat
8:49 PM herbRcollins Q2) Shown them the ongoing help we all get from our mobile devices. #lrnchat
8:49 PM deacti_vate A2) What else is it? I develop friendships through it too of course, but curious what else #lrnchat https://t.co/pz5Qwutcgv
8:49 PM Quinnovator a2) help them see how they use their smartphone to make themselves smarter #lrnchat (many apps are great examples)
8:49 PM Ruthie_HB Q2) By showing how effective it can be at the moment of need. #lrnchat
8:49 PM JD_Dillon A2) Ask people who do the job what they need – without filtering through the “training lens” #lrnchat https://t.co/MROgbFSclr
8:49 PM Tracy_Parish The real point to make here is that a PLN is not about twitter or any other tool. That is the myth we must dispell. #lrnchat
8:49 PM urbie #lrnchat A2 If the performance support was made via #designthinking or similar process then heck yeah it’s more than a job aid. it’s mine!
8:49 PM danno4krist So PLN is about PEOPLE not TOOLS, we may only find People via these tools #lrnchat
8:49 PM Tracy_Parish RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can we encourage people to understand that performance support is more than a job aid? #lrnchat
8:49 PM willconstantine One way is showing the value the learner gets from using the performance support. #lrnchat
8:49 PM Learning_Dude A2) Remove all the job aids, see what they use then, point out that that’s performance support. #lrnchat
8:49 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can we encourage people to understand that performance support is more than a job aid? #lrnchat
8:49 PM Tracy_Parish RT @Learning_Dude: A2) Remove all the job aids, see what they use then, point out that that’s performance support. #lrnchat
8:49 PM MelMilloway @Learning_Dude It’s all about the lists! #lrnchat
8:50 PM JD_Dillon A2) Align support to the needs of customers, not employees #lrnchat https://t.co/MROgbFSclr
8:50 PM ryantracey RT @danno4krist: So PLN is about PEOPLE not TOOLS, we may only find People via these tools #lrnchat
8:50 PM herbRcollins @Quinnovator Smarter or just more knowledgeable? #lrnchat
8:50 PM Learning_Dude @MelMilloway I know. I have one. *gulp, sigh* I have work to do. #lrnchat
8:50 PM deacti_vate @Learning_Dude @MelMilloway We’re all very complicated, us learning-and-development-ers😉 #lrnchat
8:50 PM paul_learning RT @Learning_Dude: A2) Remove all the job aids, see what they use then, point out that that’s performance support. #lrnchat
8:50 PM kelly_smith01 A2) Show examples of performance support embedded in a job #lrnchat
8:50 PM Quinnovator a2) show ‘em ToDos/Reminder, , Yelp, Calculator, etc #lrnchat
8:50 PM Tracy_Parish Sometimes I wish they would figure out a jobaid would be better than a full day workshop on how to fill out a form. #lrnchat
8:50 PM Quinnovator RT @herbRcollins: @Quinnovator Smarter or just more knowledgeable? #lrnchat < more *effective*
8:50 PM nickfloro A2 What @Quinnovator said in A1. Share stories, demonstrate, encourage, show them @JaneBozarth style🙂 and invite them into play #lrnchat
8:50 PM MelMilloway @deacti_vate @Learning_Dude There’s more than meets the eye! LOL. #lrnchat
8:51 PM Learning_Dude A2) Hahaha! Have them Google the term “performance support.” The answer is obvious. #lrnchat
8:51 PM blomquisteg I guess a plan is all about the people you’re trying to reach, not the medium through which you are communicating #lrnchat
8:51 PM Ruthie_HB Q2) Demonstrate the pain points and illustrate what support can be used to help improve performance. #lrnchat
8:51 PM ryantracey A2) Brainstorm “how to” when you need to. #lrnchat
8:51 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat A2) when its real time, just in time and is sustainable and relevant 2 their needs – could be coaching, visual aid, knowledge base
8:51 PM kmarranzino A2) Show the alternatives and their benefits. Like video how-to demos; allows imitation rather than direction-following. #lrnchat
8:51 PM Ruthie_HB RT @Learning_Dude: A2) Remove all the job aids, see what they use then, point out that that’s performance support. #lrnchat
8:51 PM lrnchat Tonight’s #lrnchat theme is: “Dilution of great ideas”.
8:51 PM nickfloro RT @Quinnovator: a2) help them see how they use their smartphone to make themselves smarter #lrnchat (many apps are great examples)
8:51 PM nickfloro RT @Tracy_Parish: The real point to make here is that a PLN is not about twitter or any other tool. That is the myth we must dispell. #lrn…
8:51 PM JD_Dillon A2) Talk about how people get help with everyday tasks … Do they have stacks of job aids at home? #lrnchat https://t.co/MROgbFSclr
8:52 PM nickfloro RT @JD_Dillon: A2) Ask people who do the job what they need – without filtering through the “training lens” #lrnchat https://t.co/MROgbFSc…
8:52 PM Learning_Dude @Ruthie_HB Ruthie! Hello. I see we’re not at a bar tonight. How goes it? #lrnchat
8:52 PM avanbarn Q2 #lrnchat show evidence of value to performance
8:52 PM JD_Dillon RT @lrnchat: Tonight’s #lrnchat theme is: “Dilution of great ideas”.
8:52 PM nickfloro RT @Tracy_Parish: Sometimes I wish they would figure out a jobaid would be better than a full day workshop on how to fill out a form. #lrnc…
8:52 PM JaneBozarth RT @nickfloro: A2 What @Quinnovator said in A1. Share stories, demonstrate, encourage, show them @JaneBozarth style🙂 and invite them into…
8:52 PM kmarranzino “@Learning_Dude: A2) Remove all the job aids, see what they use then, point out that that’s performance support. #lrnchat” <–Brilliant!
8:52 PM jenisecook RT @Tracy_Parish: Sometimes I wish they would figure out a jobaid would be better than a full day workshop on how to fill out a form. #lrnc…
8:52 PM urbie RT @JaneBozarth: Pay attention to things you use all day to ‘support’ you: alarm clock. cruise control. ‘popcorn’ button on the microwave. …
8:52 PM Tracy_Parish @JaneBozarth IFTTT.🙂 #lrnchat
8:52 PM Quinnovator @kmarranzino yes: video how-tos, annotated photo stepbystep #Lrnchat
8:52 PM willconstantine RT @kelly_smith01: A2) Show examples of performance support embedded in a job #lrnchat
8:53 PM JaneBozarth RT @Tracy_Parish: @JaneBozarth IFTTT.🙂 #lrnchat
8:53 PM deacti_vate A2) You learn beyond “immediate need” things through your PLN, which job aids are typically structured for #lrnchat
8:53 PM Ruthie_HB RT @JD_Dillon: A2) Ask people who do the job what they need – without filtering through the “training lens” #lrnchat https://t.co/MROgbFSc…
8:53 PM Learning_Dude Take “people” to a task with which they’re unfamiliar; don’t give them a job aid. They’ll figure it out. #lrnchat
8:53 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Tonight’s #lrnchat theme is: “Dilution of great ideas”.
8:53 PM JaneBozarth @Tracy_Parish YES IFTTT !! #lrnchat
8:53 PM avanbarn Q2 #lrnchat – UNDERSTANDING the value of something is not enough – need action.
8:53 PM Quinnovator RT @JaneBozarth: @Tracy_Parish YES IFTTT !! #lrnchat < great example!
8:54 PM danno4krist Thanks was needed! “@lrnchat: Tonight’s #lrnchat theme is: “Dilution of great ideas”.” #lrnchat
8:54 PM kelly_smith01 Q2) Show/tell them that performance support is not necessarily a tangible/visible/physical entity #lrnchat
8:54 PM Learning_Dude What if there’s a vision impairment and can’t see the job aid without a magnifying device. Which is the performance support? #lrnchat
8:54 PM Ruthie_HB @Learning_Dude Hi Stephen! Missing the shenanigans at #lrnchat #LSCon!
8:54 PM Quinnovator a2) mixed initiative dialogs: HVAC calculators, mediation cost tradeoffs (mobile examples I use) #lrnchat
8:54 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat A2) create an experience to demonstrate the value of perf. support vs. what it is – sustainment & relevancy key, quick & accessible
8:54 PM Learning_Dude @Ruthie_HB Good times. #LSCon #lrnchat I’ll be at @devlearn in September/October in Vegas.
8:54 PM urbie @Learning_Dude Isn’t there a Hippocratic Oath for instructional designers? Taking away their job aids.. #owie #lrnchat
8:55 PM JaneBozarth @Learning_Dude @Ruthie_HB I miss you both… #lrnchat
8:55 PM danno4krist @JaneBozarth Are these Performance Support or Job aid? #lrnchat
8:55 PM scogill Lead by example? #lrnchat
8:55 PM Learning_Dude @urbie Love that. #lrnchat
8:55 PM blomquisteg You have to provide your employees with hands-on problem solving so they will learn how to handle similar events in the future #lrnchat
8:55 PM nickfloro A2 I think one key is to Listen and help them help themselves, so if you can connect or provide quick input on how to do it (GREAT) #lrnchat
8:55 PM Learning_Dude You could always wave a job aid in their face and yell repeatedly, “It’s not the only performance support tool!” #lrnchat
8:56 PM ryantracey @urbie @Learning_Dude There’s a Hypocritical Oath for doctors. #lrnchat
8:56 PM deacti_vate A2) Wow I failed miserably. I was still on the topic of PLN, and read performance support as personal learning network #lrnchat
8:56 PM lrnchat Q3) How can we encourage people to understand that mLearning is not just “a course on a phone”? #lrnchat
8:56 PM danno4krist Hey guys, am I the only one not knowing the difference between Performance Support and Job Aid yet? 😞#lrnchat
8:56 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can we encourage people to understand that mLearning is not just “a course on a phone”? #lrnchat
8:56 PM nickfloro A2 Think quick, small and use what you have to help, build, learn, share #lrnchat
8:56 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can we encourage people to understand that mLearning is not just “a course on a phone”? #lrnchat
8:56 PM deacti_vate I was completely confused by the conversations happening. OOPS. #lrnchat
8:56 PM Ruthie_HB RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can we encourage people to understand that mLearning is not just “a course on a phone”? #lrnchat
8:56 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can we encourage people to understand that mLearning is not just “a course on a phone”? #lrnchat
8:56 PM Quinnovator RT @deacti_vate: A2) Was still on the topic of PLN, and read performance support as personal learning network #lrnchat < need a job aid?
8:56 PM urbie #lrnchat A3 An article in the weekly Restroom Reader?
8:57 PM willconstantine Q2) Performance support can also be self defined and not dictated to #lrnchat
8:57 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can we encourage people to understand that mLearning is not just “a course on a phone”? #lrnchat
8:57 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can we encourage people to understand that mLearning is not just “a course on a phone”? #lrnchat
8:57 PM ryantracey A3) I must revert back to @Quinnovator’s previous answer… Examples & stories. #lrnchat
8:57 PM Learning_Dude A3) Aha! I was interviewed by @inkling about this https://t.co/BKVqY5Mm0n #lrnchat
8:57 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Tonight’s #lrnchat theme is: “Dilution of great ideas”.
8:57 PM kmarranzino RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can we encourage people to understand that mLearning is not just “a course on a phone”? #lrnchat
8:57 PM JD_Dillon A3) Again, refer to everyday use of mobile to support LIFE, not just work #lrnchat https://t.co/STyQniPKED
8:57 PM tomspiglanin RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can we encourage people to understand that mLearning is not just “a course on a phone”? #lrnchat
8:57 PM scogill #JUSTDOIT?? #lrnchat
8:57 PM aaronesilvers RT @mbr1online: Check out my #xAPiCamp presentation:’Using the #xAPI to Drive Innovation in Teacher Education’.http://t.co/ZOYTwrzUr4 #edch…
8:57 PM KnowledgeAdvntg Hello from Ruth in #CT a little late A2) we can’t know everything and need to remind each other it’s ok to get “a little help” #lrnchat
8:57 PM ryantracey RT @JD_Dillon: A3) Again, refer to everyday use of mobile to support LIFE, not just work #lrnchat https://t.co/STyQniPKED
8:57 PM MelMilloway A3 Because we are already mLearning without courses. We use things like YouTube videos etc… to mLearn. #lrnchat https://t.co/j9WkA1qE0W
8:57 PM Learning_Dude A3) Start by explaining that mLearning is not a course, period. (Well, not necessarily anyway.) #lrnchat
8:57 PM deacti_vate @Quinnovator Clearly!! #lrnchat

Or perhaps performance support (having a device that reads it to me)?

8:58 PM Quinnovator a3) ask them “how do you use your phone to make yourself more effective?” After they list, ask “how much of that was a course?” #lrnchat
8:58 PM nickfloro A3 Funny, I know who wrote that question. Best way again is to listen to the challenge and then brainstorm and demonstrate ideas. #lrnchat
8:58 PM ryantracey This. rt @MelMilloway A3 Because we are already mLearning without courses. We use things like YouTube videos etc… to mLearn. #lrnchat
8:58 PM JaneBozarth RT @Quinnovator: a3) ask them “how do you use your phone to make yourself more effective?” After they list, ask “how much of that was a cou…
8:58 PM willconstantine Q3) I think that need to understand what mobility means first…strictly mobility #lrnchat
8:58 PM Learning_Dude @Quinnovator Bingo! #lrnchat
8:58 PM nickfloro A3 Sketch, prototype the ideas and if they can see it, they can understand and you get a green light to move forward. #lrnchat
8:58 PM Ruthie_HB Q3) By showing how real mLearning is done. Learning in a hot air ballon, learning while on the train… in a boat. #lrnchat
8:58 PM opurt11 Q3) Be sure mLearning includes use of device’s affordances & note these – how the experience couldn’t be duplicated on laptop #lrnchat
8:58 PM TriciaRansom RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can we encourage people to understand that mLearning is not just “a course on a phone”? #lrnchat
8:58 PM JaneBozarth @willconstantine and the concept of ‘learning everywhere’. “Mobile” doesn’t necessarily mean any device. #lrnchat
8:58 PM tomspiglanin A3) ask when the last time they learned something on their phone, then ask if that was a course #oddsverylow #lrnchat
8:58 PM ryantracey @Quinnovator Sir, you are on fire tonight. #lrnchat
8:59 PM urbie #lrnchat A3 For it to stick it has to be lived, touched, experienced. What was the title of that book??? http://t.co/rnizrLEWUT
8:59 PM jyoti__gupta #lrnchat a3) these questions are making me lol. someone have a bad week at work?
8:59 PM kelly_smith01 Q3) Show that mlearn enables learning/performance support regardless of time or place #lrnchat
8:59 PM danno4krist RT @MelMilloway: A3 Because we are already mLearning without courses. We use things like YouTube videos etc… to mLearn. #lrnchat https:/…
8:59 PM herbRcollins Q3) Invite a new person to #lrnchat A whole new way to learn using a mobile device designed for mobile…not retrofitted
8:59 PM nickfloro A3 or you go rouge with a idea, concept and build traction to build IT (whatever works) #lrnchat
8:59 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat A3) give it 2 them 2 try in various forms of media on various devices/formats – my exp. learners fear mlearning think complex
8:59 PM Learning_Dude A3) You could argue that reading a book is “technically” mLearning, if you think about it. #lrnchat
8:59 PM willconstantine @JaneBozarth agreed. #lrnchat
8:59 PM danno4krist RT @Learning_Dude: A3) Start by explaining that mLearning is not a course, period. (Well, not necessarily anyway.) #lrnchat
9:00 PM ryantracey It sure is. RT @Learning_Dude A3) You could argue that reading a book is “technically” mLearning, if you think about it. #lrnchat
9:00 PM stipton A3) start by creating more than a course on a phone. Starts with us, and proper content and context. #lrnchat
9:00 PM JaneBozarth RT @ryantracey: It sure is. RT @Learning_Dude A3) You could argue that reading a book is “technically” mLearning, if you think about it. #l…
9:00 PM Learning_Dude Again, waving hands and yelling louder and louder is a great way to make people listen…right?😉 #lrnchat
9:00 PM Tracy_Parish RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can we encourage people to understand that mLearning is not just “a course on a phone”? #lrnchat
9:00 PM JaneBozarth @Learning_Dude well YEAH #lrnchat
9:00 PM inkling RT @Learning_Dude: A3) Aha! I was interviewed by @inkling about this https://t.co/BKVqY5Mm0n #lrnchat
9:00 PM MelMilloway It might also be fun to have people develop their own mLearn solutions as an activity and reflect. #lrnchat
9:00 PM deacti_vate A3) Ask them how they learn while mobile. Podcasts, that stupid trivia game (guh) #lrnchat https://t.co/FgXQhXn5l3
9:00 PM kmarranzino A3) It’s whatever is needed to perform, exactly when it’s needed, WHEREVER THE PERFORMER IS, regardless of delivery medium. #lrnchat
9:00 PM TriciaRansom a3) point out that when they google something on their phone, they’re mlearning #lrnchat
9:00 PM Ruthie_HB RT @kelly_smith01: Q3) Show that mlearn enables learning/performance support regardless of time or place #lrnchat
9:01 PM Learning_Dude A3) Turn off their phone and tell them to learn something new. When they do, tell them they’ve just experienced mLearning. #lrnchat
9:01 PM jyoti__gupta #lrnchat a3) would be easier to diversity mLearning if support existed for it standard learning authoring tools.
9:01 PM Ruthie_HB RT @Quinnovator: a3) ask them “how do you use your phone to make yourself more effective?” After they list, ask “how much of that was a cou…
9:01 PM ryantracey A3) Project-based learning requiring use of the phone. #lrnchat
9:01 PM Learning_Dude RT @JaneBozarth: Constantly ask, “how did you learn that?” “why do know that?” of yourself and others. #lrnchat
9:01 PM MelMilloway @deacti_vate LOL I was so into the stupid trivia games for like 2 weeks. #lrnchat
9:01 PM herbRcollins @ryantracey @Learning_Dude On my Kindle I read books. mLearning or an old paradigm on new technology? #lrnchat
9:01 PM sbruington . @lrnchat A3) Haha! Have them take a course + assessment on their phone, then asked what they learned. #lrnchat
9:02 PM Quinnovator a3) ask them to share their favorite/most used apps. Bet they’re not *courses*! #lrnchat
9:02 PM ryantracey RT @JaneBozarth: Constantly ask, “how did you learn that?” “why do know that?” of yourself and others. #lrnchat
9:02 PM urbie #lrnchat A3 Take an activist approach. Organize a march on the L&D department. Posters w/catchy slogans. Folk music. Chants. Shticky shtuff.
9:02 PM tomspiglanin @ryantracey @Learning_Dude Might debating a topic while driving with a colleague also result in mobile learning? #lrnchat
9:02 PM danno4krist Yeah… “@kelly_smith01: Q3) Show that mlearn enables learning/performance support regardless of time or place #lrnchat”
9:02 PM annasabramowicz RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can we encourage people to understand that mLearning is not just “a course on a phone”? #lrnchat
9:02 PM ryantracey @herbRcollins @ryantracey @Learning_Dude Both?🙂 #lrnchat
9:02 PM Quinnovator RT @sbruington: . @lrnchat A3) Haha! Have them take a course + assessment on their phone, then asked what they learned. #lrnchat <😀
9:02 PM nickfloro A3 show them how you can build a add-on to the course to compliment or encourage connections or assist after the course #lrnchat
9:02 PM Learning_Dude @herbRcollins @ryantracey We get to a place where we’re arguing semantics, and missing the point, I think. #lrnchat
9:02 PM kelly_smith01 @danno4krist Performance support comes in many forms including but not limited to coaching, job design, error messages, etc. #lrnchat
9:03 PM JaneBozarth Walk the talk on this and on perf support. Make your use explicit. #lrnchat
9:03 PM mattgfrost RT @JaneBozarth: Constantly ask, “how did you learn that?” “why do know that?” of yourself and others. #lrnchat
9:03 PM Learning_Dude @tomspiglanin @ryantracey Yes. The one who comes out with the fewest bruises wins. #lrnchat
9:03 PM JD_Dillon For every question so far … Don’t talk like a learning professional! Speak the language of the user … #lrnchat
9:03 PM stipton A3) problem stems from word learning, people associate it with course rather than performance support, need to work on perception #lrnchat
9:03 PM ryantracey @tomspiglanin @Learning_Dude I guess so…. thought provoking! #lrnchat
9:03 PM blomquisteg #lrnchat you have show them the different ways they can access information. Ex being in a new city & using the “Around Me” app to find food
9:03 PM Quinnovator a3) discriminate between learning and *augmenting* learning #lrnchat
9:03 PM lrnchat Q4) How can we encourage people to understand that social learning is not just social media? #lrnchat
9:03 PM KnowledgeAdvntg A3) Agree @ryantracey mLearning is around us in everything we do in how we use phone or ipad to find info & help us do something #lrnchat
9:03 PM nickfloro A3 starts again with what do you want to do? What are u trying to solve? Then what can you do to get there with that device thingy #lrnchat
9:03 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q4) How can we encourage people to understand that social learning is not just social media? #lrnchat
9:03 PM willconstantine @nickfloro mobile aids in the process of learning and is that pivot point to performance #lrnchat
9:03 PM deacti_vate Super good point Shannon! #lrnchat https://t.co/G5VggowP1O
9:03 PM Quinnovator RT @avanbarn: @Quinnovator A3: who do we need to convince – the end use or the developers/designers? < yes (and managers) #Lrnchat
9:03 PM Ruthie_HB RT @lrnchat: Q4) How can we encourage people to understand that social learning is not just social media? #lrnchat
9:03 PM willconstantine RT @JaneBozarth: Walk the talk on this and on perf support. Make your use explicit. #lrnchat
9:04 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q4) How can we encourage people to understand that social learning is not just social media? #lrnchat
9:04 PM TriciaRansom RT @lrnchat: Q4) How can we encourage people to understand that social learning is not just social media? #lrnchat
9:04 PM Learning_Dude . @lrnchat A4) This is freaky. I have a post in draft ready to publish on this right now.🙂 #lrnchat
9:04 PM tomspiglanin RT @lrnchat: Q4) How can we encourage people to understand that social learning is not just social media? #lrnchat
9:04 PM scogill RT @lrnchat: Q4) How can we encourage people to understand that social learning is not just social media? #lrnchat
9:04 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q4) How can we encourage people to understand that social learning is not just social media? #lrnchat
9:04 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q4) How can we encourage people to understand that social learning is not just social media? #lrnchat
9:04 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat A3) it’s the key stakeholders that hold the purse strings & need 2 be encouraged on mlearning & get their head out of protecting IP
9:04 PM Quinnovator a4) connect to their own experience #heardthisbeforetoo #lrnchat
9:04 PM nickfloro RT @JD_Dillon: For every question so far … Don’t talk like a learning professional! Speak the language of the user … #lrnchat
9:04 PM Learning_Dude A4) Talk to that person. Teach them something, anything. Now explain they’ve learned without social media. #lrnchat
9:04 PM JD_Dillon A4) Ask people how they learn … Bet it’s from other people in some way … Social! #lrnchat https://t.co/Xyr0d1Hypf
9:04 PM TriciaRansom q4) sit a group of ppl in a room, pose a problem to them, and get their answer. Ask if they talked. If yes, social learning #lrnchat
9:04 PM deacti_vate .@JD_Dillon I don’t think that the average user would care that it’s even called “mLearning” #lrnchat
9:04 PM avanbarn Q3 #lrnchat ask what they need to get done while being mobile.
9:04 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q4) How can we encourage people to understand that social learning is not just social media? #lrnchat
9:04 PM Ruthie_HB Q4) Because it already happens at the water cooler or via IM, text msg if you’re remote.😉 #lrnchat
9:05 PM Quinnovator RT @JD_Dillon: A4) Ask people how they learn … Bet it’s from other people in some way … Social! #lrnchat https://t.co/Xyr0d1Hypf
9:05 PM ryantracey RT @KnowledgeAdvntg: A3) Agree @ryantracey mLearning is around us in everything we do in how we use phone or ipad to find info & help us do…
9:05 PM JD_Dillon A4) Stop calling it “social learning” … #lrnchat https://t.co/Xyr0d1Hypf
9:05 PM JaneBozarth Show them videos of dogs or dolphins learning socially. They don’t even have pockets for iphones. #lrnchat
9:05 PM JaneBozarth RT @JD_Dillon: A4) Stop calling it “social learning” … #lrnchat https://t.co/Xyr0d1Hypf
9:05 PM annasabramowicz RT @lrnchat: Q4) How can we encourage people to understand that social learning is not just social media? #lrnchat
9:05 PM willconstantine Q3) it really comes down to the need and the context of the need #lrnchat
9:05 PM tomspiglanin A4) Remind people that the best thing about IRL courses is/was learning from one another #lrnchat
9:05 PM JaneBozarth @JD_Dillon RIGHT? #lrnchat
9:05 PM ryantracey @JaneBozarth A4) Poor dolphins. #lrnchat
9:05 PM Ruthie_HB RT @TriciaRansom: q4) sit a group of ppl in a room, pose a problem to them, and get their answer. Ask if they talked. If yes, social learni…
9:05 PM urbie #lrnchat A4 I don’t know that I’d want to. Social media PLN’ing is all about leverage.. may not be all social but it’s lion’s share o’ mine
9:05 PM Learning_Dude A4) Explain that social media has become a much smaller component of social collaboration; connecting people. #lrnchat
9:05 PM JaneBozarth RT @TriciaRansom: q4) sit a group of ppl in a room, pose a problem to them, and get their answer. Ask if they talked. If yes, social learni…
9:05 PM opurt11 Q4) Ask when the last time was they had a conversation w/ someone where they learned something. (Starting to get the hang of this) #lrnchat
9:05 PM jyoti__gupta #lrnchat a4) that’s tough. Lesson planning and grading with social media is VERY difficult
9:05 PM TriciaRansom a4) I tell ppl that I USE social media to connect. I tell them I learn WITH others. One=tool, other=activity #lrnchat
9:05 PM JaneBozarth RT @TriciaRansom: a4) I tell ppl that I USE social media to connect. I tell them I learn WITH others. One=tool, other=activity #lrnchat
9:06 PM willconstantine @Quinnovator that and in relation to other as well, in different buckets #lrnchat
9:06 PM MelMilloway A4 Because it’s learning w./from ppl, in general. Working together/sharing. We do this even through email. #lrnchat https://t.co/40a1tzKfvd
9:06 PM tomspiglanin A4) or ask how learning in college really works – it’s not the lecture, but solving problems with others = social learning #lrnchat
9:06 PM kmarranzino RT @lrnchat: Q4) How can we encourage people to understand that social learning is not just social media? #lrnchat
9:06 PM blomquisteg very good point #lrnchat https://t.co/h6iHbbGgs3
9:06 PM JD_Dillon A4) Stop trying to own/manage/control social technology in the workflow as the training people … Foster connections! #lrnchat
9:06 PM TriciaRansom a4) difference between a hammer (tool) and building (activity). #lrnchat
9:06 PM tomspiglanin RT @JaneBozarth: Show them videos of dogs or dolphins learning socially. They don’t even have pockets for iphones. #lrnchat
9:06 PM Tracy_Parish RT @tomspiglanin: A4) or ask how learning in college really works – it’s not the lecture, but solving problems with others = social learnin…
9:06 PM danno4krist RT @Learning_Dude: A4) Talk to that person. Teach them something, anything. Now explain they’ve learned without social media. #lrnchat
9:06 PM danno4krist RT @JD_Dillon: A4) Ask people how they learn … Bet it’s from other people in some way … Social! #lrnchat https://t.co/Xyr0d1Hypf
9:06 PM urbie #lrnchat A4 90% of the books I’ve read (not to mention journal articles) came from tweeps on social media. What am I missing?
9:06 PM willconstantine @deacti_vate @JD_Dillon most call it Google #lrnchat
9:06 PM Learning_Dude It also depends on the definition of social media. People learn from one another outside of Facebook, Twitter, etc. #lrnchat
9:06 PM deacti_vate A4) Who are the “people”? I don’t think users care what “social learning” is – L&D needs to implement well #lrnchat https://t.co/RvTT6rQ7NT
9:06 PM MelMilloway My tweets are getting too complex LOL. Not being able to simplify what I want to say is the worst. #lrnchat
9:06 PM ryantracey #Facebookdown #lrnchat
9:07 PM TriciaRansom a4) Ask how they learned what was cool to wear in high school. #lrnchat
9:07 PM urbie RT @deacti_vate: A4) Who are the “people”? I don’t think users care what “social learning” is – L&D needs to implement well #lrnchat https…
9:07 PM JaneBozarth RT @TriciaRansom: a4) Ask how they learned what was cool to wear in high school. #lrnchat
9:07 PM JD_Dillon A4) Don’t require the use of SoMe. Let people share how they prefer (within reason). Recognize that some people don’t like SoMe! #lrnchat
9:07 PM Quinnovator @JaneBozarth or even just kids playing #lrnchat
9:07 PM danno4krist RT @TriciaRansom: q4) sit a group of ppl in a room, pose a problem to them, and get their answer. Ask if they talked. If yes, social learni…
9:07 PM Tracy_Parish @JaneBozarth Chimps learning how to “fish” for ants with sticks from the elders in the group. #lrnchat
9:07 PM Learning_Dude Share the bobo doll experiment with them. http://t.co/WBxcIdJPUc @simplypsych #lrnchat
9:07 PM Quinnovator a4) kids negotiating rules of a game #lrnchat
9:07 PM stipton Why is this important? Why do people need to be alerted to fact they are “social learning”? Why can’t they just get on with job? #lrnchat
9:07 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat A4) sometimes I think it’s just a simple shift in language & perspective- term “social” seen as fun, not value add “collaborative?”
9:08 PM TriciaRansom a4) When ppl ask my “what is a twitterchat”, and the lightbulb goes off, I tell them they just did social learning…not SoMe #lrnchat
9:08 PM danno4krist @JD_Dillon @lrnchat and call it…?? #lrnchat
9:08 PM deacti_vate .@urbie everyday conversations I suppose? #lrnchat
9:08 PM herbRcollins Q4) Serve as a role model for social learning, use it and share with those who are interested. #lrnchat
9:08 PM TriciaRansom RT @stipton: Why is this important? Why do people need to be alerted to fact they are “social learning”? Why can’t they just get on with jo…
9:08 PM Learning_Dude @OU812Jensen Yes. YES! It IS a shift in language and perspective. Cindy nailed it. Next! #lrnchat
9:08 PM avanbarn A4. Does social learning require technology? Maybe non-tech examples? #lrnchat
9:08 PM Quinnovator @tomspiglanin er, or sharing cheatsheets, answers, how to game the questions/professor😉 #lrnchat
9:08 PM Learning_Dude @Ruthie_HB Love that. Well said, Ruthie. #lrnchat
9:08 PM blomquisteg @Learning_Dude @simplypsych yes it’s just another learned behavior #lrnchat
9:08 PM tomspiglanin A4 perhaps also an opportunity to show skeptics that using social media is not a waste of time in trusted hands #lrnchat
9:08 PM kmarranzino A4) If I channel @Learning_Dude: Throw a bunch of learners in a coffee shop and take away all web access. If they learn together… #lrnchat
9:08 PM TriciaRansom a4) building on @quinnovator…collecting all the $$$ when you land on Free Parking #lrnchat
9:08 PM JD_Dillon @danno4krist All learning is inherently social … #lrnchat
9:09 PM Learning_Dude @blomquisteg @simplypsych Precisely, but sans social media. #lrnchat
9:09 PM willconstantine Q4) perhaps social learning should be called subconscious or invisible learning? I think that most of it is subconscious #lrnchat
9:09 PM nickfloro RT @Learning_Dude: @OU812Jensen Yes. YES! It IS a shift in language and perspective. Cindy nailed it. Next! #lrnchat
9:09 PM ryantracey @Learning_Dude @simplypsych I see your Bobo and raise you a lift (elevator) experiment https://t.co/1Cadeg5CbB #lrnchat
9:09 PM Learning_Dude @kmarranzino Just don’t take away the coffee.😉 #lrnchat
9:09 PM kelly_smith01 Q4) A gallon bucket of sand representing all social learning about a teaspoon of the sand would be social media #lrnchat
9:09 PM bschlenker @tomspiglanin @ryantracey @Learning_Dude So, mLearning doesn’t necessarily require technology? #lrnchat
9:09 PM Learning_Dude @ryantracey @simplypsych Hahaha! You got me to literally LOL. Thanks, Ryan.😉 #lrnchat
9:09 PM stipton RT @JD_Dillon: @danno4krist All learning is inherently social … #lrnchat
9:10 PM urbie @jyoti__gupta #lrnchat SoMe is that and more. It’s collaborative. It’s #make and share. I’d still be in New Mexico if not for SoMe.
9:10 PM joansie74 RT @JD_Dillon: A4) Ask people how they learn … Bet it’s from other people in some way … Social! #lrnchat https://t.co/Xyr0d1Hypf
9:10 PM Learning_Dude @bschlenker @tomspiglanin @ryantracey IMO. #lrnchat
9:10 PM joansie74 RT @Learning_Dude: A4) Talk to that person. Teach them something, anything. Now explain they’ve learned without social media. #lrnchat
9:10 PM JaneBozarth At the moment I just wish people understood that social learning isn’t NEW. #lrnchat
9:10 PM urbie RT @JaneBozarth: At the moment I just wish people understood that social learning isn’t NEW. #lrnchat
9:10 PM deacti_vate A4) Quick reminder that the construct of “social learning” was around well before social media or even tech: http://t.co/nITUtnta5p #lrnchat
9:10 PM Learning_Dude @urbie @jyoti__gupta Finally. I’ve been struggling with “SoMe” for a while now. *lightbulb* SoMe = Social Media. Doh. #lrnchat
9:10 PM Quinnovator RT @JaneBozarth: At the moment I just wish people understood that social learning isn’t NEW. #lrnchat < yes
9:11 PM theASIDEblog Googling is not learning or acquiring knowledge; it’s searching and nothing committed to memory. #lrnchat
9:11 PM kmarranzino .@Learning_Dude Absolutely NOT!😉 #lrnchat
9:11 PM danno4krist RT @JaneBozarth: At the moment I just wish people understood that social learning isn’t NEW. #lrnchat
9:11 PM JustRogering @JaneBozarth Just ask them about sunday school #lrnchat
9:11 PM avanbarn “@bschlenker: @tomspiglanin @ryantracey @Learning_Dude So, mLearning doesn’t necessarily require technology? #lrnchat” it doesn’t? Say more!
9:11 PM lrnchat Q5) What other great learning-related ideas have been diluted? #lrnchat
9:11 PM urbie #lrnchat A4 Like @janebozarth and #showyour work.. w/o SoMe how many could you show? It’s leverage and a plethora of ideas.
9:11 PM TriciaRansom a4) Social learning = answers around water cooler. Social Media = 21 century water cooler #lrnchat
9:11 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q5) What other great learning-related ideas have been diluted? #lrnchat
9:11 PM scogill @JaneBozarth: At the moment I just wish people understood that social learning isn’t NEW. #lrnchat” agree
9:11 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q5) What other great learning-related ideas have been diluted? #lrnchat
9:11 PM willconstantine @Learning_Dude welcome to Earth, it is a planet. #lrnchat
9:11 PM danno4krist RT @Ruthie_HB: Q4) Social media makes explicit what already is happening amongst colleagues. But transparency helps others hop on the learn…
9:11 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q5) What other great learning-related ideas have been diluted? #lrnchat
9:11 PM Learning_Dude @avanbarn @bschlenker @tomspiglanin @ryantracey IMO, mLearning is learning everywhere. Reading a book. Talking to someone. #lrnchat
9:11 PM Ruthie_HB RT @lrnchat: Q5) What other great learning-related ideas have been diluted? #lrnchat
9:11 PM KnowledgeAdvntg A4) what’s been natural, now is labeled so it needs to be explained. social learning is lrng by being alive, interacting w others #lrnchat
9:11 PM joansie74 RT @TriciaRansom: a4) Social learning = answers around water cooler. Social Media = 21 century water cooler #lrnchat
9:12 PM JD_Dillon A5) Measurement … #lrnchat https://t.co/9ParvFpcLb
9:12 PM Learning_Dude @avanbarn @bschlenker @tomspiglanin @ryantracey …picking up a brochure at a museum. Going to a museum! #lrnchat
9:12 PM TriciaRansom RT @lrnchat: Q5) What other great learning-related ideas have been diluted? #lrnchat
9:12 PM opurt11 Q5) Learning only happens if it can be measured and tracked. #lrnchat
9:12 PM joansie74 RT @JaneBozarth: At the moment I just wish people understood that social learning isn’t NEW. #lrnchat
9:12 PM KnowledgeAdvntg RT @theASIDEblog: Googling is not learning or acquiring knowledge; it’s searching and nothing committed to memory. #lrnchat
9:12 PM Learning_Dude @opurt11 I bow down to you. Oh, Great Chad Lowry. THIS IS IT! Next. #lrnchat
9:12 PM MelMilloway @deacti_vate I think it’s because it sounds so much like social media learning and confuses people. People jump the gun. #lrnchat
9:12 PM herbRcollins Today I saw a guy walking down the street while reading a book. mLearning? #lrnchat https://t.co/RSGX3xF1bm
9:12 PM urbie @Learning_Dude @jyoti__gupta Hmm SoMe to the rescue! #lrnchat
9:12 PM scogill A5) “let’s just build everything like a college!” #lrnchat
9:12 PM bschlenker If learning isn’t new and social learning isn’t new… and media isn’t new… then social media isn’t new? #lrnchat
9:13 PM Learning_Dude @opurt11 I favorited it this twice. You said it. Thank you. #lrnchat
9:13 PM Quinnovator a5) individual learner differences, authoring tools, instructional design, games, lots of things mis- or under-interpreted #lrnchat
9:13 PM tomspiglanin RT @TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What other great learning-related ideas have been diluted? #lrnchat
9:13 PM stipton A4) social learning in all its facets need to be part of the regular conversation as part of nurturing an organizational culture #lrnchat
9:13 PM Learning_Dude @bschlenker Not quite… #lrnchat
9:13 PM tomspiglanin A5) diluted? metrics, evaluation #lrnchat
9:13 PM Quinnovator a5) informal learning #lrnchat
9:13 PM theASIDEblog Looking up content online is locating information; it’s more about finding than it is about acquiring knowledge. #lrnchat
9:13 PM Learning_Dude A5) That only someone who is a “learning professional” understands how people learn. #lrnchat
9:13 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q5) What other great learning-related ideas have been diluted? #lrnchat
9:13 PM ryantracey A5) Gamification = points & badges. #lrnchat
9:13 PM TriciaRansom a5) Apprenticeships. Great learning method, especially for pure expertise #lrnchat
9:13 PM joansie74 RT @stipton: A4) social learning in all its facets need to be part of the regular conversation as part of nurturing an organizational cultu…
9:13 PM bschlenker @Learning_Dude How so? #lrnchat
9:13 PM opurt11 @Learning_Dude Someone is going to read this tweet on my timeline someday (maybe me), and think I am an idiot. #lrnchat
9:14 PM avanbarn “@Learning_Dude: IMO, mLearning is learning everywhere. Reading a book. Talking to someone. #lrnchat” is that diluted?
9:14 PM kelly_smith01 RT @Quinnovator: a5) individual learner differences, authoring tools, instructional design, games, lots of things mis- or under-interpreted…
9:14 PM Quinnovator RT @ryantracey: A5) Gamification = points & badges. #lrnchat < hear hear
9:14 PM Learning_Dude A5) That you can create “training” in a vacuum and it will actually work to solve real problems. #lrnchat
9:14 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q5) What other great learning-related ideas have been diluted? #lrnchat
9:14 PM MelMilloway People only think social learning means social media learning because no one says social except for “social media” these days. #lrnchat
9:14 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat A5) as soon as we talk money or time it gets diluted regardless of idea – all mechanisms 4 learning have their place when relevant.
9:14 PM deacti_vate @ryantracey guuuuuh #lrnchat
9:14 PM Ruthie_HB Attending = checkbox for learning complete. RT @opurt11: Q5) Learning only happens if it can be measured and tracked. #lrnchat
9:14 PM ryantracey A5) Moocs are a fad. #lrnchat
9:14 PM JaneBozarth RT @ryantracey: A5) Moocs are a fad. #lrnchat
9:14 PM jyoti__gupta #lrnchat : a5) Badges… diluted and oversold at the same time
9:14 PM MelMilloway @Learning_Dude @bschlenker Social media isn’t super new? #lrnchat
9:14 PM danno4krist @Learning_Dude @avanbarn @bschlenker @tomspiglanin @ryantracey used 2think mLearning needed 2involve a mobile device & some tech #lrnchat
9:14 PM Learning_Dude @avanbarn Maybe I’m misunderstanding dilution. #lrnchat
9:14 PM JD_Dillon A5) Data … #lrnchat https://t.co/9ParvFpcLb
9:15 PM Quinnovator a5) instructional design = content and a quiz, authoring tools = make that easy #lrnchat
9:15 PM deacti_vate A5) Just because it’s a game doesn’t mean it’s better, nor does it mean it’s juvenile, nor is it even novel #lrnchat
9:15 PM tomspiglanin A5) ironically, the dilution of complex courses results in more complexity, not simplicity #lrnchat
9:15 PM kmarranzino RT @lrnchat: Q5) What other great learning-related ideas have been diluted? #lrnchat
9:15 PM urbie @Learning_Dude @avanbarn methinks me misunderstands dilution, too. #lrnchat
9:15 PM Ruthie_HB Q5) Certification representing expert knowledge. #lrnchat
9:15 PM TriciaRansom a5) don’t know if it was ever a great idea, but “since it was in the course, they know it” #lrnchat
9:15 PM JaneBozarth RT @JD_Dillon: A5) Data … #lrnchat https://t.co/9ParvFpcLb
9:15 PM urbie RT @Learning_Dude: @avanbarn Maybe I’m misunderstanding dilution. #lrnchat
9:15 PM JaneBozarth @JD_Dillon ain’t THAT the truth! #lrnchat
9:15 PM danno4krist @joansie74 @JaneBozarth Hmm… As we usually do! #lrnchat
9:15 PM theASIDEblog Social learning is great for sharing. Deep learning requires more than sharing. #lrnchat
9:15 PM Learning_Dude A5) There’s a business problem, must have training to solve that problem. #lrnchat
9:16 PM CaveoLearning Effective Employee Onboarding: Making It Count from Day 1 http://t.co/LRaEieq3zv #lrnchat #shrm #hr247 #atd
9:16 PM Learning_Dude @theASIDEblog Whoa! That’s deep.😉 #lrnchat
9:16 PM stipton @bschlenker is Kevin Bacon at the end of that stream of thought? #lrnchat
9:16 PM TriciaRansom a5) classroom learning #lrnchat
9:16 PM Learning_Dude A5) Assessments. #lrnchat
9:16 PM JD_Dillon Again to every question … It’s our fault ideas get diluted in application! 😫 #lrnchat
9:16 PM bschlenker RT @MelMilloway @Learning_Dude @bschlenker Social media isn’t super new? #lrnchat <If social learning isn’t, then how can social media be?
9:16 PM MelMilloway @stipton @bschlenker Kevin Bacon is a god. #lrnchat
9:16 PM danno4krist RT @Ruthie_HB: Q5) Certification representing expert knowledge. #lrnchat
9:16 PM Learning_Dude A5) Facilitation. #lrnchat
9:17 PM JaneBozarth @theASIDEblog ? social learning isn’t only about sharing. #lrnchat
9:17 PM Learning_Dude A5) Sage on the Stage. #lrnchat
9:17 PM willconstantine @ryantracey I think what a MOOC needs understanding #lrnchat
9:17 PM tomspiglanin @danno4krist @Learning_Dude @avanbarn @bschlenker @ryantracey many think m = device, just as they think learning needs instruction #lrnchat
9:17 PM TriciaRansom a5) knowledge checks #lrnchat
9:17 PM avanbarn “@urbie: @Learning_Dude @avanbarn methinks me misunderstands dilution, too. #lrnchat” Maybe it’s me! How do we see dilution? Watered down…
9:17 PM Tracy_Parish RT @JaneBozarth: At the moment I just wish people understood that social learning isn’t NEW. #lrnchat
9:17 PM annasabramowicz Can diluted also result in availability to more people? can we say general access to idea is worse than limited? touching more ppl #lrnchat
9:17 PM joansie74 RT @TriciaRansom: a5) knowledge checks #lrnchat
9:17 PM urbie @theASIDEblog Sure, deep learning requires doing. But SoMe opens up many more possibilities. Hard to beat diversity, crowdsourcing #lrnchat
9:17 PM TriciaRansom a5) Smile sheets #lrnchat
9:17 PM ryantracey A5) Assessment, in general. #lrnchat
9:17 PM stipton A5) Corporate universities, rapid eLearning tools, analysis, evaluations. #lrnchat
9:17 PM blomquisteg A5) Strategic problem solving techniques #lrnchat
9:17 PM danno4krist @Ruthie_HB Not necessarily… Very true Ruth! #lrnchat
9:18 PM JaneBozarth RT @blomquisteg: A5) Strategic problem solving techniques #lrnchat
9:18 PM avanbarn “@Learning_Dude: @avanbarn Maybe I’m misunderstanding dilution. #lrnchat” if something (mL) can be anything, is that not dilution?
9:18 PM Learning_Dude @avanbarn @urbie That’s how I’m interpreting it: watered down, skewed, not working as intended. #lrnchat
9:18 PM kelly_smith01 Q5) Testing, learner interaction, gaming – not saying the mentioned are all bad – but some needs improvement #lrnchat
9:18 PM MelMilloway @bschlenker @Learning_Dude I don’t think SM is new. I also think they are 2 diff. things. Social learning/social media learning #lrnchat
9:18 PM ryantracey RT @stipton: A5) Corporate universities, rapid eLearning tools, analysis, evaluations. #lrnchat
9:18 PM TriciaRansom a5) “If you know it, you can teach it”. puh-leeze #lrnchat
9:18 PM herbRcollins A5) Reading and spelling are getting lost. Chalk boards and those projectors on which you wrote on plastic sheets. Gone! #lrnchat #sad
9:18 PM Ruthie_HB RT @annasabramowicz: Can diluted also result in availability to more people? can we say general access to idea is worse than limited? touch…
9:18 PM annasabramowicz I’m thinking piano concertos vs everyone has a keyboard = more creative evolution of music? diluted but evolved? #lrnchat
9:18 PM willconstantine @Quinnovator this is almost condescending to the topic🙂 #lrnchat
9:18 PM JaneBozarth I see it happening w positive deviance concepts: it’s about making better use of resources, not just breaking rules. #lrnchat
9:18 PM kmarranzino A5) “Whiteboard” videos! #lrnchat
9:18 PM joansie74 A5) certificate of completion #lrnchat
9:18 PM Learning_Dude @MelMilloway @bschlenker Social media, powered by technology, is new. I see your point, Brent. #lrnchat
9:18 PM ryantracey RT @annasabramowicz: Can diluted also result in availability to more people? can we say general access to idea is worse than limited? touch…
9:18 PM TriciaRansom a5) purpose of learning #lrnchat
9:19 PM Ruthie_HB @annasabramowicz Even limited could bias learning with only specific/narrow opinions? #lrnchat
9:19 PM stipton @JD_Dillon totally agree, why is the question “how can we make them think?” Not how we should adapt as industry #lrnchat
9:19 PM Learning_Dude @kmarranzino Oh geez. They were once a niche, creative, entertaining thing. Now I get dizzy and have to look elsewhere. #lrnchat
9:19 PM lrnchat Q6) Why does the dilution happen? Why is there such a need to dilute new ideas? #lrnchat
9:19 PM urbie @Learning_Dude @avanbarn #lrnchat Is that bad though? From the military I know that plans go out the window on first contact. 1/2
9:19 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q6) Why does the dilution happen? Why is there such a need to dilute new ideas? #lrnchat
9:19 PM bschlenker @MelMilloway @Learning_Dude SoLrn vs. SoMeLrn? #lrnchat
9:19 PM MelMilloway @Learning_Dude @bschlenker I mean I guess but people were learning via SM like 20 years ago. #lrnchat
9:19 PM Learning_Dude @urbie @avanbarn No, not necessarily. #lrnchat
9:19 PM avanbarn @tomspiglanin @danno4krist @Learning_Dude @bschlenker @ryantracey – then what does m=? great chat! #lrnchat
9:20 PM JaneBozarth q6 vendors trying to ride some the sociallygamifiedmobilepln train #lrnchat
9:20 PM tomspiglanin RT @lrnchat: Q6) Why does the dilution happen? Why is there such a need to dilute new ideas? #lrnchat
9:20 PM Learning_Dude @bschlenker @MelMilloway Oh geez! #lrnchat
9:20 PM TriciaRansom a5) Knowledge that bling isn’t teaching. Old-school sometimes best school #lrnchat
9:20 PM annasabramowicz @Ruthie_HB I agree.. there will always be that…and silos!
#lrnchat
9:20 PM Ruthie_HB RT @lrnchat: Q6) Why does the dilution happen? Why is there such a need to dilute new ideas? #lrnchat
9:20 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q6) Why does the dilution happen? Why is there such a need to dilute new ideas? #lrnchat
9:20 PM willconstantine A5) innovation #lrnchat
9:20 PM ryantracey @JaneBozarth Which version? #lrnchat
9:20 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q6) Why does the dilution happen? Why is there such a need to dilute new ideas? #lrnchat
9:20 PM bschlenker @avanbarn @tomspiglanin @danno4krist @Learning_Dude @ryantracey Perhaps just not sitting at a desk? #lrnchat
9:20 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat A5) here’s one I’ve heard – “they’re a SME (engineer) they can design and deliver the content – Really?
9:20 PM Quinnovator a6) because our brains hurt #lrnchat
9:20 PM MelMilloway @bschlenker @Learning_Dude I’m fine with keeping things simple. Not trying to rock the boat LOL. #lrnchat
9:20 PM Learning_Dude @MelMilloway @bschlenker No. No one learning anything before Twitter!😉 #lrnchat
9:20 PM blomquisteg @lrnchat the fear of failing, being wrong, or could even be intimidation #lrnchat
9:20 PM urbie #lrnchat is it a gem or what @lnddave calls ‘snake oil’ ? 2/2
9:20 PM kmarranzino RT @lrnchat: Q6) Why does the dilution happen? Why is there such a need to dilute new ideas? #lrnchat
9:20 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q6) Why does the dilution happen? Why is there such a need to dilute new ideas? #lrnchat
9:20 PM annasabramowicz RT @lrnchat: Q6) Why does the dilution happen? Why is there such a need to dilute new ideas? #lrnchat
9:20 PM TriciaRansom q6) consultants. gurus. experts. #lrnchat
9:21 PM Quinnovator RT @JaneBozarth: q6 vendors trying to ride some the sociallygamifiedmobilepln train #lrnchat < definitely part of it
9:21 PM theASIDEblog Great ideas come from social learning whether it’s the coffee house or a PLN. #lrnchat
9:21 PM willconstantine Q6) people need something to reference so buzz words are created for that purpose #lrnchat
9:21 PM JD_Dillon A5) Forgetting that performance is the desired outcome- not learning #lrnchat
9:21 PM JaneBozarth q6 laziness: people don’t take time to really learn about it, scape the easy bits off the top, go with that #lrnchat
9:21 PM ryantracey a^) Because people eat up the headlines. #lrnchat
9:21 PM bschlenker @MelMilloway @Learning_Dude PLEASE rock the boat!🙂 #lrnchat
9:21 PM Ruthie_HB Q6) I think dilution almost puts it into a silo, so that others can get a grasp of it. Almost human nature. #lrnchat
9:21 PM urbie RT @JaneBozarth: q6 laziness: people don’t take time to really learn about it, scape the easy bits off the top, go with that #lrnchat
9:21 PM Learning_Dude . @lrnchat The same a liquid gets diluted. People = Water. The more there are, the more diluted ideas become. #lrnchat
9:21 PM deacti_vate A6) Words take on new meanings (as seen in *social* learning & personal learning *network*) #lrnchat https://t.co/fFq5mwszvc
9:21 PM Quinnovator a6) some folks aren’t willing to do the hard yards, others are too pressured by time, easy to take a superficial version, … #lrnchat
9:21 PM MelMilloway @Learning_Dude @bschlenker To catch a predator might be coming back. It was on over 8 yrs ago! LOL. #lrnchat
9:21 PM TriciaRansom q6) look to hollywood. Easier to re-purpose something than create something new #lrnchat
9:21 PM stipton .@Learning_Dude @kmarranzino I still love white board videos! Great way to connect points and key ideas. #lrnchat
9:21 PM The_NthDegree Oops late again for lrnchat🙂 Just playing catchup – sorry, was onsite with a client🙂 #lrnchat
9:21 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat A6) lack of time, money and resources been on the receiving end of that one-want continuous improvement for a penny or less.
9:21 PM avanbarn “@annasabramowicz: Can diluted also result in availability to more people? #lrnchat – don’t think reach = dilution. Others?
9:21 PM JaneBozarth @The_NthDegree hi Nigel! #lrnchat
9:22 PM Learning_Dude @stipton @kmarranzino When done right, I still love them, too. #lrnchat
9:22 PM danno4krist @bschlenker @avanbarn @tomspiglanin @Learning_Dude @ryantracey Hmm… Great learning! #lrnchat
9:22 PM ryantracey Boom. rt @JaneBozarth q6 laziness: people don’t take time to really learn about it, scape the easy bits off the top, go with that #lrnchat
9:22 PM The_NthDegree @JaneBozarth @The_NthDegree Hi Jane🙂 #lrnchat
9:22 PM Learning_Dude Everything awesome gets diluted.😥 #lrnchat
9:22 PM Learning_Dude Everything awesome gets diluted.😥 #lrnchat
9:22 PM Ruthie_HB Naive me. Yes the profit machine! RT @TriciaRansom: q6) consultants. gurus. experts. #lrnchat
9:22 PM kmarranzino A6) Sign of the times: Rapid pace leads to rapid adoption leads to rapid use leads to rapid dev leads to rapid OVERuse. #lrnchat
9:22 PM Quinnovator a6) set effects, functional fixedness, regression to the mean #psychobabble #lrnchat
9:22 PM KnowledgeAdvntg A6) to make it easier to understand & digest for everyone – then it becomes like a game of telephone – it changes along the way #lrnchat
9:22 PM jyoti__gupta #lrnchat a6) cuz everyone wants to try it, but not everyone has the means. Why most mLearning sux? – can’t afford a JS coder
9:22 PM bschlenker RT @deacti_vate: A6) Words take on new meanings (as seen in *social* learning & personal learning *network*) #lrnchat https://t.co/fFq5mwsz…
9:22 PM JaneBozarth Monetizationismitis #lrnchat
9:22 PM TriciaRansom q6) We filter ideas/words through internal filters…and each thinks something slightly different. Wonderful part of being human #lrnchat
9:23 PM deacti_vate @bschlenker @MelMilloway @Learning_Dude Social learning is just learning w/ people http://t.co/nITUtnta5p around since the 60s🙂 #lrnchat
9:23 PM Learning_Dude @Quinnovator Yes, #psychobabble. I read that and said to myself, “Huh?” *scratches head* #lrnchat
9:23 PM ryantracey @avanbarn @tomspiglanin @danno4krist @Learning_Dude @bschlenker Learning wherever YOU are, not where someone else say to be? #lrnchat
9:23 PM Quinnovator a6) because we interpret the new from the familiar and we are far too optimistic about our own understanding #lrnchat
9:23 PM deacti_vate @bschlenker @MelMilloway @Learning_Dude & social media is just a new method for that to happen #lrnchat
9:23 PM theASIDEblog @urbie Agreed, it’s a combination that needs interaction. #lrnchat
9:23 PM joansie74 @lrnchat a6) lack of accountability #lrnchat
9:23 PM Learning_Dude @deacti_vate @bschlenker @MelMilloway …but if you’re alone, learning about social… OK. I’ll stop. #lrnchat
9:23 PM tomspiglanin A6) some dilution results from jumping on bandwagon to be with the cool kids #lrnchat
9:23 PM Dave_Ferguson -@stipton After my first 35 hours of watching a hand sketching on a whiteboard, I started to ask what the added value of that is. #lrnchat
9:23 PM JD_Dillon A6) We don’t take time/make effort to learn, try, fail, adjust – we jump at trends b4 we know what we have #lrnchat https://t.co/VYwelAFgEJ
9:23 PM ryantracey A6) Fear of change? #lrnchat
9:23 PM tomspiglanin A6) some dilution results from marketing buzzwords #lrnchat
9:24 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 It sounds like dilution is laminar flow. The further from its source the fewer True Believers. So local dogma mixes stuff up.
9:24 PM joansie74 RT @TriciaRansom: a5) Knowledge that bling isn’t teaching. Old-school sometimes best school #lrnchat
9:24 PM TriciaRansom q6) dilution isn’t only for good ideas. Think “reality tv”. Do I really want to see naked dating? #lrnchat
9:24 PM deacti_vate @Learning_Dude @bschlenker @MelMilloway LOL. All about context😉 #lrnchat
9:24 PM Learning_Dude The side convos tonight are a real hoot. Thanks, @bschlenker, @MelMilloway, @avanbarn, @urbie! #lrnchat
9:24 PM MelMilloway @deacti_vate @bschlenker @Learning_Dude I’m going to agree to disagree LOL. #lrnchat
9:24 PM Ruthie_HB Q6) you have to admit, the shiny new toy always grabs our attention. Satisfies our appetite vs. actually experiencing discovery. #lrnchat
9:24 PM kelly_smith01 elearn Magazine: If Mobile Learning and Support are Wonderful, Why aren’t They Everywhere? http://t.co/xQzPULiMPH #lrnchat
9:24 PM joansie74 RT @TriciaRansom: q6) look to hollywood. Easier to re-purpose something than create something new #lrnchat
9:24 PM stipton A6) because original concept was difficult to explain/implement/measure or poorly designed. We water it down. #lrnchat
9:24 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat A6) I think Queen says it best https://t.co/cFrnfg3UPh
9:24 PM JaneBozarth RT @Ruthie_HB: Q6) you have to admit, the shiny new toy always grabs our attention. Satisfies our appetite vs. actually experiencing discov…
9:24 PM danno4krist Which further proves it’s authenticity! “@Learning_Dude: Everything awesome gets diluted.😥 #lrnchat”
9:24 PM bschlenker @deacti_vate @MelMilloway @Learning_Dude So then wouldn’t Social media = consuming media w/ people?…since before the ’60s. #lrnchat
9:24 PM The_NthDegree Is dilution always a bad thing? We seem happy to slate it, but what if a great idea is a bit extreme and the dilution is better? #lrnchat
9:24 PM avanbarn #lrnchat A5: don’t think there is sneed to dilute. Perhaps lack of understanding or needing to make a name? Variations on a theme?
9:24 PM MelMilloway @bschlenker @deacti_vate @Learning_Dude Ain’t nobody got time for the 60s. #lrnchat
9:25 PM Quinnovator a6) because if I can sidetrack it into something I can profit from, I will #lrnchat (channeling @JaneBozarth)
9:25 PM danno4krist RT @deacti_vate: @bschlenker @MelMilloway @Learning_Dude Social learning is just learning w/ people http://t.co/nITUtnta5p around since the…
9:25 PM JaneBozarth @avanbarn good point. it was ref to the earlier questions #lrnchat
9:25 PM kmarranzino .@stipton @Learning_Dude I still like them when they’re done how you just described, but too often they’re just used as a gimmick. #lrnchat
9:25 PM JD_Dillon A6) We start with strategy and technology rather than the needs of the user … #lrnchat
9:25 PM PatriceKiraly RT @lrnchat: Q6) Why does the dilution happen? Why is there such a need to dilute new ideas? #lrnchat
9:25 PM joansie74 RT @stipton: A6) because original concept was difficult to explain/implement/measure or poorly designed. We water it down. #lrnchat
9:25 PM Learning_Dude @willconstantine Social learning is learning with people. *sarcasm* If you’re alone, learning about social…is that social learning? #lrnchat
9:25 PM bschlenker @OU812Jensen I like your style! Queen says everything best! #lrnchat
9:25 PM ryantracey @The_NthDegree Stop diluting #lrnchat Nigel.
9:25 PM jyoti__gupta @TriciaRansom Did that show have a second season? #lrnchat
9:25 PM JaneBozarth @ryantracey @The_NthDegree lol #lrnchat
9:25 PM tomspiglanin A6) a lot of dilution results from the masses looking for the silver bullet, turnkey answer to all problems #lrnchat
9:25 PM stipton RT @tomspiglanin: A6) some dilution results from jumping on bandwagon to be with the cool kids #lrnchat
9:25 PM kelly_smith01 @danno4krist A job aid is something designed specifically for a job/task – Like a airline pilots preflight checklist #lrnchat
9:25 PM deacti_vate @bschlenker @MelMilloway @Learning_Dude depends on what definition of “social media” you want to take on #lrnchat
9:25 PM JaneBozarth @tomspiglanin oh yeah #lrnchat
9:26 PM JaneBozarth RT @tomspiglanin: A6) a lot of dilution results from the masses looking for the silver bullet, turnkey answer to all problems #lrnchat
9:26 PM annasabramowicz RT @Quinnovator: a6) because we interpret the new from the familiar and we are far too optimistic about our own understanding #lrnchat
9:26 PM herbRcollins Q6) What is seen as dilution may be evolution by combining ideas while gaining new ideas. To meet changing ways. #lrnchat
9:26 PM joansie74 RT @tomspiglanin: A6) some dilution results from jumping on bandwagon to be with the cool kids #lrnchat
9:26 PM Learning_Dude This ice is diluting my Dew. #lrnchat
9:26 PM The_NthDegree @ryantracey @The_NthDegree I’m probably the one that needs diluting… ‘dilute to taste’🙂 #lrnchat
9:26 PM ryantracey RT @tomspiglanin: A6) a lot of dilution results from the masses looking for the silver bullet, turnkey answer to all problems #lrnchat
9:26 PM deacti_vate @bschlenker @MelMilloway @Learning_Dude but I’m going with this one😉 http://t.co/RsWCQZA8vW #lrnchat
9:26 PM stipton @Dave_Ferguson yikes I would too if had to watch 35 hours of it. #lrnchat
9:26 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q6) Why does the dilution happen? Why is there such a need to dilute new ideas? #lrnchat
9:26 PM TriciaRansom q6) Dilution happens because the masses aren’t smart enough to understand…or so we tell ourselves #lrnchat
9:26 PM MelMilloway @deacti_vate @bschlenker @Learning_Dude Life and words are too subjective. *passes out* #lrnchat
9:26 PM Quinnovator social media: cave paintings, campfire stories, songs, poems, books, movies, radio, … #lrnchat
9:26 PM willconstantine I think everyone is diluting #lrnchat
9:26 PM Ruthie_HB RT @tomspiglanin: A6) a lot of dilution results from the masses looking for the silver bullet, turnkey answer to all problems #lrnchat
9:27 PM Learning_Dude @MelMilloway @deacti_vate @bschlenker WAKE UP! *smacks Mel (gently) on the face* (Or maybe I splash water. Hmmm.) #lrnchat
9:27 PM TriciaRansom q6) Dilution may not be dilution. Think of it as new angles on an idea. It actually may be learning #lrnchat
9:27 PM lrnchat QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:27 PM deacti_vate @MelMilloway @bschlenker @Learning_Dude I feel like we’re contributing to dilution – I’ve always wanted to contribute to something #lrnchat
9:27 PM MelMilloway @Learning_Dude @deacti_vate @bschlenker My bf is harassing me to stop learning on social media. #lrnchat
9:27 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat < already?
9:27 PM annasabramowicz RT @The_NthDegree: Is dilution always a bad thing? We seem happy to slate it, but what if a great idea is a bit extreme and the dilution is…
9:27 PM danno4krist RT @kelly_smith01: @danno4krist Performance support comes in many forms including but not limited to coaching, job design, error messages, …
9:27 PM Ruthie_HB Less concentration of caffiene is good for you! RT @Learning_Dude: This ice is diluting my Dew. #lrnchat
9:27 PM danno4krist RT @kelly_smith01: @danno4krist A job aid is something designed specifically for a job/task – Like a airline pilots preflight checklist #lr…
9:27 PM Dave_Ferguson .@danno4krist Job aid is a form of performance support. In general tells you what to do, when to do it. Doesn’t usually say why. #lrnchat
9:27 PM Learning_Dude I knew it would happen. I’ve been more engaged in the hallway than the auditorium during this #lrnchat!
9:27 PM ryantracey AWrap) That’s was uber cool. Thanks guys! #lrnchat
9:27 PM TriciaRansom ooohhhh— Maybe what we’re calling dilution is ppl taking an idea and interacting with it. Active learning #lrnchat
9:27 PM lrnchat Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
9:27 PM opurt11 QWrap) Chad Lowry, Customer Education Manager, Chicago. Two weeks from graduation! #lrnchat
9:27 PM deacti_vate @Learning_Dude @MelMilloway @bschlenker water is good, water dilutes and we are diluting right now – it comes full circle! #lrnchat
9:27 PM Ruthie_HB RT @Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat < already?
9:28 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
9:28 PM kmarranzino RT @lrnchat: QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:28 PM willconstantine @Quinnovator don’t forget about Pinewood Derby car carving! #lrnchat
9:28 PM kelly_smith01 Q6) Good ideas maybe misunderstood or repackaged or marketed to be sold #lrnchat
9:28 PM tomspiglanin @MelMilloway @Learning_Dude @deacti_vate @bschlenker just say no! #lrnchat
9:28 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
9:28 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:28 PM danno4krist RT @Dave_Ferguson: .@danno4krist Job aid is a form of performance support. In general tells you what to do, when to do it. Doesn’t usually …
9:28 PM Quinnovator aW) thanks to participants and moderators for another wise and witty #lrnchat!
9:28 PM Ruthie_HB RT @The_NthDegree: Is dilution always a bad thing? We seem happy to slate it, but what if a great idea is a bit extreme and the dilution is…
9:28 PM jyoti__gupta @herbRcollins True… it just fleshes the practical out of the theoretical #lrnchat
9:28 PM TriciaRansom I think Naked Dating has had several seasons, right? RT @jyoti__gupta: @TriciaRansom Did that show have a second season? #lrnchat
9:28 PM Learning_Dude . @lrnchat OMG. Don’t get me started! I learned that I don’t know what social media or social learning actually mean. #lrnchat
9:28 PM annasabramowicz RT @herbRcollins: Q6) What is seen as dilution may be evolution by combining ideas while gaining new ideas. To meet changing ways. #lrnchat
9:28 PM The_NthDegree A7 That I miss making it to lrnchat on time… seemed like a good discussion🙂 #lrnchat
9:28 PM blomquisteg @willconstantine I think everyone is diluting everything everywhere #lrnchat
9:28 PM deacti_vate @Learning_Dude @lrnchat LOL do you know now? #lrnchat
9:28 PM Quinnovator aW) blogging at http://t.co/Nm5yXCtwur, consulting at http://t.co/FfFRKQew2t, instigating at http://t.co/riPao8fpZx #lrnchat
9:28 PM MelMilloway I learned that side convos dilute #lrnchat too much. Sorry all. https://t.co/FDnC1Mo1op
9:29 PM opurt11 Q7) Ironically, avoiding dilution of good ideas can require expanding your mind about normative practices in the ID space. #lrnchat
9:29 PM TriciaRansom Now I’m all focused on this diluted drink next to me. I had diluted drinks #lrnchat
9:29 PM bschlenker RT @blomquisteg: @willconstantine I think everyone is diluting everything everywhere #lrnchat
9:29 PM Dave_Ferguson .@stipton In general I find it a tiring technique, like excess use of allegedly cool builds / transitions in PowerPoint. #lrnchat
9:29 PM Learning_Dude @deacti_vate No, Rachel, I don’t. You have confused me!😛 #lrnchat
9:29 PM tomspiglanin RT @lrnchat: Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
9:29 PM stipton .@kmarranzino @Learning_Dude Hence dilution… In same breath as overkill. We seriously need to understand concept of mixing it up. #lrnchat
9:29 PM bschlenker RT @blomquisteg @willconstantine I think everyone is diluting everything everywhere #lrnchat <That’s how we roll!
9:29 PM herbRcollins Learning and Development Specialist for @HPSoftware Central MA #lrnchat
9:29 PM jyoti__gupta #lrnchat a7) when you’re really passionate about ID, it can suck when an industry is built around sub-par practices
9:29 PM kelly_smith01 Q7) I learned I must type faster or get anew device #lrnchat
9:29 PM Learning_Dude It’s been fun. I love #lrnchat. Thanks to all. Stephen from Roanoke, Virginia, USA. Posting to http://t.co/YlGtewyfYv tonight! #lrnchat
9:29 PM deacti_vate @Learning_Dude bahahha what, you don’t trust wikipedia?! #lrnchat
9:29 PM urbie #lrnchat A7 Learnt (learned?) that my PLN is a diverse thing indeed. An amorphous thing with tentacles. Crazy and sane real and unreal.
9:29 PM annasabramowicz @herbRcollins I totally agree Rock and Rolll – is that not a dilution of earlier music? I am sure someone complained #lrnchat
9:29 PM deacti_vate This is incredibly insightful! good share. #lrnchat https://t.co/Th2jNMltnr
9:29 PM kmarranzino AWrap) Ken Marranzino: Dad, husband, learning manager, skier, car guy, bad-pun-maker, cartoon-voice-impersonator. Order varies. #lrnchat
9:29 PM Ruthie_HB @annasabramowicz @The_NthDegree Agreed! A less concentrated solution may work for others. #lrnchat Adapt to what’s relevant.
9:30 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat QWrap Nice to connect with the like minded again – reminds me of why I care so much about what I do and how I do it – Cheers!
9:30 PM joansie74 @TriciaRansom diluted drinks have no flavor, let’s run with this metaphor!:0) #lrnchat
9:30 PM tomspiglanin A7) Tonight learned (reminded) how much can be learned by considering the informed options of others #lrnchat
9:30 PM willconstantine QWrap) Will Constantine, LearnHaus is exploring the Indian Spice Route…Stay Tuned! #lrnchat
9:30 PM danno4krist A7 That mLearning is learning away from your desk, everywhere including but not necessarily limited to a device and tech #lrnchat
9:30 PM TriciaRansom Is it possible to dilute your brain? #lrnchat
9:30 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q7) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
9:30 PM jennyrhill @lrnchat Oops, missed #lrnchat tonight! Hope it was good, hi all, bye all!🙂
9:30 PM MelMilloway @deacti_vate We may have been doing that! #lrnchat
9:30 PM DictionaryVoice RT @deacti_vate: @bschlenker @MelMilloway @Learning_Dude depends on what definition of “social media” you want to take on #lrnchat
9:30 PM urbie #lrnchat awrap urbie, instructional designer.. i’m in the vicinity of 28.4158° N, 81.2989° W next week if anyone in my PLN wants a meetup
9:30 PM kmarranzino JUST DON’T DILUTE MY COFFEE!!! #lrnchat
9:30 PM TriciaRansom I learned that twubs hates me, and that I need a new chat tool. Suggestions? #lrnchat
9:30 PM stipton .@Dave_Ferguson good one! Stopped using builds, animations, transitions ages ago. Talk motion sickness. #lrnchat
9:30 PM JaneBozarth @kmarranzino srsly #lrnchat
9:31 PM Ruthie_HB QWrap) Always a pleasure! #lrnchat
9:31 PM Learning_Dude From years of conditioning as a youngster, I now think it’s Friday night whenever I have pizza.😉 #lrnchat
9:31 PM willconstantine Q7) what diluting looks like😉 #lrnchat
9:31 PM tomspiglanin RT @JaneBozarth: Thanks to @The_NthDegree learned sometimes things get diluted for good reason, not bad #lrnchat
9:31 PM MelMilloway @willconstantine Your shrimp dish looked amazing! Share w. us your recipez. #lrnchat
9:31 PM OU812Jensen #lrnchat QWrap trying the world being an independent, new learnings, new terrain, relationships and discovery.
9:31 PM lrnchat Thanks everyone for joining #lrnchat tonight. See you next week! Look for weekly transcripts at http://t.co/ijNIXq164N