Transcript – February 6: “Snake Oil – Relieves Instantly – Cures All”

8:32 PM lrnchat Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
8:33 PM lrnchat Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat
8:33 PM Quinnovator glad I can join #lrnchat after missing a few these past few weeks (nonstop confs: ASTD TK, NexLearn ILU, and Training!)
8:33 PM lodtrain Happy to be back at #lrnchat from IT global “clickity click” training
8:33 PM willconstantine I’ve been great! #lrnchat
8:33 PM bschlenker RT @lrnchat: #lrnchat in 30 min! Snake Oil – Relieves instantly – Cures all. Join us for tonight’s chat! http://t.co/1C8FyloKQv
8:34 PM DaveHallmon @lrnchat Hi Everyone. Looking forward to hearing about snake charming tonight🙂 #LRNchat
8:34 PM lrnchat Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:34 PM willconstantine RT @DaveHallmon: @lrnchat Hi Everyone. Looking forward to hearing about snake charming tonight🙂 #LRNchat
8:34 PM MaddyzDaddy Ed tech coach from so cali checking in. #lrnchat
8:34 PM jackietrains Hi from a rainy South Carolina! #lrnchat
8:34 PM Quinnovator Clark Quinn, L&D change instigator, snake oil skewer, author/speaker/consultant, genial malcontent, Walnut Creek CA #lrnchat
8:34 PM lodtrain A funny thing happened today a proj mgr contacted me to see if I could help her create 3 ecourses in 3 weeks🙂🙂 #lrnchat
8:35 PM brunowinck Q0) Learned about headless software testing with selenium : great stuff #lrnchat
8:35 PM HuthKah126 @lrnchat I have been great! I am excited to be a apart of #lrnchat for the first time!
8:35 PM bschlenker Q0) What I learned this week: Actual Superbowl action can be edited down to 11mins. #lrnchat
8:35 PM eLearninCyclops Jeff Goldman – eLearning Designer in Baltimore. Excited for 2nite’s #lrnchat
8:35 PM willconstantine A0) I learned to stay inside when it ices outside! #lrnchat
8:35 PM Quinnovator a0) learned that I miss #lrnchat when I can’t attend, but great to meet fellow chatters when we get together F2F!
8:36 PM brunowinck Bruno Winck, Software architect and first user of @Kneaver , taking Morning tchai in hot Madurai #lrnchat
8:36 PM Quinnovator a0) learned that dogs need mud flaps when it rains! #lrnchat
8:36 PM jackietrains A0) Learned about editing video in iMovie vs Final Cut Pro vs Pinnacle Studio. My brain hurts a little. #lrnchat
8:36 PM kelly_smith01 Q0) Kelly Smith, Attitude Adjuster Texas #lrnchat
8:36 PM lodtrain RT @bschlenker: Q0) What I learned this week: Actual Superbowl action can be edited down to 11mins. #lrnchat
8:37 PM willconstantine Will Constantine, trainer for EMR solution and service company DocComply. @nnjastd President Elect also! #lrnchat
8:37 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lodtrain Next time that happens, send them this – http://t.co/imdDw26v27 #lrnchat
8:37 PM Quinnovator @lodtrain isn’t that what all that rapid elearning stuff is about? doesn’t actually *have* to change anything, right? #lrnchat
8:37 PM willconstantine RT @jackietrains: A0) Learned about editing video in iMovie vs Final Cut Pro vs Pinnacle Studio. My brain hurts a little. #lrnchat
8:37 PM Tracy_Parish Hey #lrnchat, long time no see. Tracy Parish, ID, healthcare, Newmarket, Ontario
8:37 PM MaddyzDaddy A0) learned that it’s hard to get teachers to commit to PD after school. #lrnchat
8:37 PM Quinnovator RT @kelly_smith01: Q0) Kelly Smith, Attitude Adjuster Texas #lrnchat < and I’m attitude *adjusting* right now (happy hour!)
8:37 PM DaveHallmon @lrnchat a0) I learned to slow down when sending out an emails to individuals when using a template. I need to read and reread🙂 #LRNchat
8:38 PM kelly_smith01 Q0) Learned that I should ask “Do you have a signed contract?” #lrnchat
8:38 PM lodtrain Q0) Learned that in a storm grocery shopping is hilarious – for #lrnchat
8:38 PM willconstantine RT @Tracy_Parish: Hey #lrnchat, long time no see. Tracy Parish, ID, healthcare, Newmarket, Ontario
8:38 PM HuthKah126 @lrnchat I have a passion for art! I am currently working on an assignment to teach children about etching! #lrnchat
8:38 PM Tracy_Parish Q0) Learned if you are going to try to teach an old dog new tricks to make sure you are speaking the same language first. #lrnchat
8:38 PM jackietrains Good one! RT @kelly_smith01: Q0) Learned that I should ask “Do you have a signed contract?” #lrnchat
8:39 PM DaveHallmon @Tracy_Parish Was it literally a different language or metaphorically? #LRNchat
8:39 PM ImmersiveLearn @lrnchat Rajon Tumbokon ID at LinkedIn working on new ways on designing online learning using our homegrown platform LearnIn #lrnchat
8:39 PM lrnchat Q1) What are the best new ideas or tech you’re excited about? Why? (i.e. Pinterest??) #lrnchat
8:39 PM Tracy_Parish Q0) Reminded that even those with the greatest motivation still need encouragement now and then. #lrnchat
8:39 PM Quinnovator @Tracy_Parish I don’t know, that sounds ‘ruff’! #lrnchat
8:39 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lrnchat Q1) What are the best new ideas or tech you’re excited about? Why? (i.e. Pinterest??) #lrnchat
8:39 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are the best new ideas or tech you’re excited about? Why? (i.e. Pinterest??) #lrnchat
8:40 PM DaveHallmon RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are the best new ideas or tech you’re excited about? Why? (i.e. Pinterest??) #lrnchat
8:40 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are the best new ideas or tech you’re excited about? Why? (i.e. Pinterest??) #lrnchat
8:40 PM Tracy_Parish @DaveHallmon Metaphorical. Coming from 2 different depts, each using the same word to refer to different things.🙂 #lrnchat
8:40 PM ImmersiveLearn @lrnchat Q0) I learned that the show Bar Rescue can teach Instructiinal Designers a lot about good training #lrnchat
8:40 PM jadekaz Learned that some really like elearning templates and NOT relieved when saying retiring them #lrnchat
8:40 PM Tracy_Parish Smarty pants.
RT @Quinnovator: @Tracy_Parish I don’t know, that sounds ‘ruff’! #lrnchat
8:41 PM lodtrain Q1) Tech excited about are wearables for education BYOW goog glass watches…. #lrnchat
8:41 PM jadekaz T moocs all the way FTW #lrnchat
8:41 PM Quinnovator a1) excited about sensors, distributed and situated cognition, content engineering, to start with #lrnchat
8:41 PM kelly_smith01 Q1) Yes. Pinterest – If (and only if) you cultivate and manage your content #lrnchat
8:41 PM lodtrain RT @ImmersiveLearn: @lrnchat Q0) I learned that the show Bar Rescue can teach Instructiinal Designers a lot about good training #lrnchat
8:41 PM DaveHallmon @lrnchat A1) There is new emerging tech every day. It is how we innovate with the tech that matters. #LRNchat
8:41 PM willconstantine A1) I am really excited about sketchnoting with @rohdesign awesome and I get to draw all day just like kindergarten #lrnchat
8:41 PM brunowinck RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are the best new ideas or tech you’re excited about? Why? (i.e. Pinterest??) #lrnchat
8:41 PM Quinnovator @Tracy_Parish occupational hazard. My claim and I’m sticking to it! #lrnchat
8:41 PM lodtrain RT @Quinnovator: a1) excited about sensors, distributed and situated cognition, content engineering, to start with #lrnchat
8:41 PM Tracy_Parish q1) I’m intrigued more and more by wearable tech. It’s coming a long way fast. #lrnchat
8:42 PM MaddyzDaddy A1) http://t.co/cqMfTMfzk1 Awesome video tool! #lrnchat
8:42 PM lodtrain Q1) Also still love short videos and YouTube for Company- attn span short vids best for educ #lrnchat
8:42 PM Quinnovator a1) getting more excited about diagramming and outlining as thinking prostheses! #lrnchat
8:42 PM willconstantine A1) I am getting into @Pinterest too. Very cool! #lrnchat
8:42 PM kelly_smith01 q1) Pinterest is a great way to share and grow up to date content from different sources.#lrnchat
8:43 PM DaveHallmon @lrnchat A1) Do we really think wearable tech like #GoogleGlass is going to become mainstream in 5 years? #LRNchat
8:43 PM brunowinck Q1) Lately : Curation, Design Thinking #lrnchat
8:43 PM lodtrain “@MaddyzDaddy: A1) http://t.co/wa4snY6pvP Awesome video tool! #lrnchat” video is great for all
8:43 PM Tracy_Parish @kelly_smith01 I often use it as a repository as well. #lrnchat
8:43 PM ImmersiveLearn @lrnchat Q1) Experience API can do for learning what google and Facebook does for Ads. #lrnchat
8:44 PM Quinnovator a1) now I’m going to have to go have a look at Pinterest, darn it! #lrnchat
8:44 PM Quinnovator RT @ImmersiveLearn: @lrnchat Q1) Experience API can do for learning what google and Facebook does for Ads. #lrnchat
8:44 PM DaveHallmon @lrnchat A1) I see more of a place for Augmented Reality Windshields http://t.co/4liHIzw16V #LRNchat
8:44 PM kelly_smith01 q1) Google glass may be used for remote coaching/feedback for unique performance (surgery?) #lrnchat
8:45 PM brunowinck Money ? RT @ImmersiveLearn: @lrnchat Q1) Experience API can do for learning what google and Facebook does for Ads. #lrnchat
8:45 PM Quinnovator @DaveHallmon sounds like a Heads Up Display (cf fighter aircraft)! #lrnchat
8:45 PM rjhogue q1) wonder about the impacts of gamification on T&L … #lrnchat
8:46 PM lodtrain Q1) What about game systems where you can use your hands for commands for educ #lrnchat
8:46 PM Tracy_Parish @kelly_smith01 I’m becoming more interested in what else besides Glass since us Canucks can’t get in on it yet. #lrnchat
8:46 PM DaveHallmon @kelly_smith01 So the #GoogleGlass can bring novice surgeon up to speed so that they can perform a triple bypass? Scary🙂 #LRNchat
8:46 PM lrnchat Q2) What are the most worrisome hyped ideas? #lrnchat
8:46 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lrnchat Q2) What are the most worrisome hyped ideas? #lrnchat
8:46 PM MaddyzDaddy been hearing alot about minecraft but never explored it. anyone use it? #lrnchat
8:46 PM Quinnovator RT @rjhogue: q1) wonder about the impacts of gamification on T&L … #lrnchat < ‘worrying about’ is more my view…
8:46 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are the most worrisome hyped ideas? #lrnchat
8:46 PM willconstantine RT @Tracy_Parish: @kelly_smith01 I’m becoming more interested in what else besides Glass since us Canucks can’t get in on it yet. #lrnchat
8:47 PM ImmersiveLearn @brunowinck @lrnchat haha I mean customizes and personalizes learning experience based on all of the data that’s tracked #lrnchat
8:47 PM jackietrains A1) Pinterest intriguing, wearable tech and sensors – all good. For me, intrigued w/ innovative use of video – like @lodtrain #lrnchat
8:47 PM rjhogue @Quinnovator ya I see that .. gamification might be the MOOC of the corporate world … #lrnchat
8:47 PM willconstantine A2) GOOGLE GLASS #lrnchat
8:47 PM Tracy_Parish Q2) Glass (and such) worry me too. Who’s recording what, when, and who??? #lrnchat
8:47 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are the most worrisome hyped ideas? #lrnchat
8:47 PM eLearninCyclops RT @Tracy_Parish Q2) Glass (and such) worry me too. Who’s recording what, when, and who??? #lrnchat
8:47 PM lodtrain Q2) Worrisome would be too many devices to develop education for, really need a plan for future tech #lrnchat
8:47 PM Quinnovator a2) where do I start? generations, digital natives, learning styles, gamification, rapid elearning…#lrnchat
8:47 PM HuthKah126 @lrnchat The Amazon Kindle Fire HDX is brilliant. It allows you to have tech support by a real live Amazon rep! #lrnchat
8:48 PM DaveHallmon @lrnchat 3D printing of human organs scares me. I would definately buy the warranty for that purchase🙂 https://t.co/c1tt0I9oM4 #LRNchat
8:48 PM brunowinck +1 (disclosure I wear glass already) RT @willconstantine: A2) GOOGLE GLASS #lrnchat
8:48 PM Tracy_Parish q2) Anything without steady panning while viewing….Blah. Makes me dizzy. aka Prezi. #lrnchat
8:48 PM lodtrain RT @Quinnovator: a2) where do I start? generations, digital natives, learning styles, gamification, rapid elearning…#lrnchat
8:48 PM lodtrain RT @HuthKah126: @lrnchat The Amazon Kindle Fire HDX is brilliant. It allows you to have tech support by a real live Amazon rep! #lrnchat
8:48 PM ImmersiveLearn @lrnchat q2) I still haven’t seen any proven results by implementing mobile learning in the workplace #lrnchat
8:48 PM Quinnovator @rjhogue or the ‘rubber chicken’/icebreaker #lrnchat
8:48 PM kelly_smith01 Q2) Maybe the giant flood of apps – how many are worhtwhile or do what is advertised? #lrnchat
8:48 PM Tracy_Parish @DaveHallmon Or stem cells now being created by dipping normal red cells into an acid bath. WOW #lrnchat
8:48 PM willconstantine RT @brunowinck: +1 (disclosure I wear glass already) RT @willconstantine: A2) GOOGLE GLASS #lrnchat
8:48 PM eLearninCyclops Q2) Always concerned about rapid dev tools over-hyped to SMEs “Build a course in just 2 hours…” #lrnchat
8:49 PM brunowinck true and it’s all flash RT @Tracy_Parish: q2) Anything without steady panning while viewing….Blah. Makes me dizzy. aka Prezi. #lrnchat
8:49 PM Quinnovator a2) mobile elearning (e.g. courses on a phone) #lrnchat
8:49 PM lodtrain RT @eLearninCyclops: Q2) Always concerned about rapid dev tools over-hyped to SMEs “Build a course in just 2 hours…” #lrnchat
8:49 PM rjhogue Q2) more bad eLearning .. cause we can build it faster! #lrnchat
8:49 PM MaddyzDaddy A2) teachers using Khan academy to REPLACE their teaching. #lrnchat
8:49 PM willconstantine @DaveHallmon @lrnchat bio printing is a very interesting concept if we take it pas the creation of ears and kidneys! #lrnchat
8:49 PM eLearninCyclops RT @rjhogue Q2) more bad eLearning .. cause we can build it faster! #lrnchat
8:49 PM Tracy_Parish @lodtrain More and more devices and having to program/release for them all at the same time. #lrnchat
8:49 PM ImmersiveLearn @lodtrain it’s all about the context by which the device is used. Not one size fits all #lrnchat
8:49 PM willconstantine RT @eLearninCyclops: Q2) Always concerned about rapid dev tools over-hyped to SMEs “Build a course in just 2 hours…” #lrnchat
8:50 PM Tracy_Parish RT @eLearninCyclops: RT @rjhogue Q2) more bad eLearning .. cause we can build it faster! #lrnchat
8:50 PM Quinnovator @ImmersiveLearn read the elearning guild’s mobile learning report for 2013, lots of case studies #lrnchat
8:50 PM heikan2003 RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Maybe the giant flood of apps – how many are worhtwhile or do what is advertised? #lrnchat
8:50 PM kelly_smith01 q2) Any software or vendor tool that “manages” or “measures” social learning #lrnchat
8:50 PM jackietrains A2) Not much to worry about. If I don’t like an idea (product, device, approach, whatever) I just don’t use it. #lrnchat
8:50 PM willconstantine A2) Gamification has become a worry for me also. Endless possibilities. #lrnchat
8:50 PM rjhogue Q2) actually it isn’t just bad eLearning it is unsustainable eLearning – build it once and walk away … #lrnchat
8:50 PM jadekaz @jadekaz: @Quinnovator Situated cognition + Legitimate Peripheral Participation (social learning) = best goodness #lrnchat
8:50 PM brunowinck lol RT @kelly_smith01: q2) Any software or vendor tool that “manages” or “measures” social learning #lrnchat
8:50 PM ImmersiveLearn @Quinnovator good tip #lrnchat
8:51 PM eLearninCyclops RT @brunowinck lol RT @kelly_smith01: q2) Any software or vendor tool that “manages” or “measures” social learning #lrnchat
8:51 PM DaveHallmon @lrnchat A2) Having a generation of learners who get their PhDs on their phone🙂 #LRNchat
8:51 PM Quinnovator RT @kelly_smith01: q2) Any software or vendor tool that “manages” or “measures” social learning #lrnchat
8:51 PM Tracy_Parish The growing trend that “the man” thinks elearning is the answer to all just in time training…..oh wait, that’s not new. #lrnchat
8:51 PM willconstantine RT @Quinnovator: @ImmersiveLearn read the elearning guild’s mobile learning report for 2013, lots of case studies #lrnchat
8:51 PM kelly_smith01 Q2) Workshops that “show” you how to do social learning #lrnchat
8:51 PM heikan2003 @eLearninCyclops that was funny but not #lrnchat
8:52 PM DaveHallmon I thought we were talking about snakes tonight? #LRNchat
8:52 PM ImmersiveLearn @willconstantine @Quinnovator gamification gets iffy when designers just slap badges on everything #lrnchat
8:52 PM GGlassFan RT @kelly_smith01: q1) Google glass may be used for remote coaching/feedback for unique performance (surgery?) #lrnchat
8:52 PM GGlassFan RT @willconstantine: A2) GOOGLE GLASS #lrnchat
8:52 PM GGlassFan RT @brunowinck: +1 (disclosure I wear glass already) RT @willconstantine: A2) GOOGLE GLASS #lrnchat
8:53 PM Quinnovator a2) misuse of concepts like story, simulation, game, scenario, etc #lrnchat (can we use conceptual clarity, please?)
8:53 PM rjhogue I’m a bit out of touch – are we seeing digital badges actually being used in training? #lrnchat
8:53 PM lrnchat Q3) What were some things that initially excited you that you grew skeptical about? Explain. #lrnchat
8:53 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lrnchat Q3) What were some things that initially excited you that you grew skeptical about? Explain. #lrnchat
8:53 PM Tracy_Parish That a new operating system will solve everything. #lrnchat
8:53 PM Quinnovator RT @DaveHallmon: I thought we were talking about snakes tonight? #LRNchat < gotta milk a few first, right? Hype ~= snake oil
8:53 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q3) What were some things that initially excited you that you grew skeptical about? Explain. #lrnchat
8:54 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q3) What were some things that initially excited you that you grew skeptical about? Explain. #lrnchat
8:54 PM willconstantine @ImmersiveLearn @Quinnovator that’s like moving ILT to LMS is “eLearning” Badges = Gamification #lrnchat
8:54 PM Tracy_Parish There are several tools that let you share what you are learning with others. I haven’t found one yet that really grabs me. #lrnchat
8:54 PM Quinnovator a3) virtual worlds. Limited but valuable affordances overwhelmed by hype! #lrnchat
8:55 PM Tracy_Parish Ya, just fund to fly around in. RT @Quinnovator: a3) virtual worlds. Limited but valuable affordances overwhelmed by hype! #lrnchat
8:55 PM willconstantine RT @Tracy_Parish: That a new operating system will solve everything. #lrnchat
8:55 PM DaveHallmon @lrnchat A3) PowerPoint. Should I say more? #LRNchat
8:55 PM lodtrain RT @Quinnovator: a3) virtual worlds. Limited but valuable affordances overwhelmed by hype! #lrnchat
8:55 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q3) What were some things that initially excited you that you grew skeptical about? Explain. #lrnchat
8:55 PM rjhogue RT @urbie RT @lrnchat: Q3) What were some things that initially excited you that you grew skeptical about? Explain. #lrnchat
8:55 PM brunowinck Q3) became skeptical after experimenting (hype increases expectations) : xAPI, responsive design #lrnchat
8:55 PM Tracy_Parish Don’t blame PPT, blame the presenter/user.😉 RT @DaveHallmon: @lrnchat A3) PowerPoint. Should I say more? #LRNchat
8:55 PM Quinnovator RT @DaveHallmon: @lrnchat A3) PowerPoint. Should I say more? #LRNchat < powerpoint doesn’t kill people…
8:56 PM rjhogue Q3) rapid eLearning tools that say they work on the iPad #lrnchat
8:56 PM Quinnovator RT @brunowinck: Q3) became skeptical after experimenting (hype increases expectations) : xAPI, responsive design #lrnchat
8:56 PM rjhogue RT @Tracy_Parish Don’t blame PPT, blame the presenter/user.😉 RT @DaveHallmon: @lrnchat A3) PowerPoint. Should I say more? #LRNchat
8:56 PM Tracy_Parish Agree.
RT @rjhogue: Q3) rapid eLearning tools that say they work on the iPad #lrnchat
8:56 PM JD_Dillon @Quinnovator @DaveHallmon But PPT does make it REALLY easy to suck! #lrnchat
8:56 PM HuthKah126 @lrnchat @DaveHallmon This is incredible. Imagine how hard it would be putting together all those cells! #lrnchat
8:56 PM ImmersiveLearn @lrnchat Q3) MOOCS in the workplace, too time consuming for busy employees and the content does not engage #lrnchat
8:56 PM lodtrain Q3) Try all, I have more demos and trial versions, then rule out #lrnchat
8:57 PM rjhogue Q3) learners who want to use their iPads to learn how to use PC applications (Electronic Medical Records) #lrnchat
8:57 PM brunowinck And on all _future_ mobile devices RT @rjhogue: Q3) rapid eLearning tools that say they work on the iPad #lrnchat
8:57 PM kelly_smith01 Q3) Learning Theories – Theory not bad. Has been misapplied and misunderstood #lrnchat
8:57 PM eLearninCyclops RT @rjhogue Q3) rapid eLearning tools that say they work on the iPad | & if they do, don’t send info to the LMS #lrnchat
8:57 PM urbie #lrnchat A3 I grew skeptical about how ‘real’ a recent gamification project would go. Needn’t have worded as it goes on all-weather
8:57 PM willconstantine I think mobile has had some hype recently. People that claim they can do mobile and they have never touched the stuff #lrnchat
8:57 PM eLearninCyclops RT @kelly_smith01 Q3) Learning Theories – Theory not bad. Has been misapplied and misunderstood #lrnchat
8:57 PM DaveHallmon @JD_Dillon @Quinnovator A3) Let’s be innovative and use Prezi🙂 #LRNchat
8:57 PM Quinnovator RT @JD_Dillon: @Quinnovator @DaveHallmon But PPT does make it REALLY easy to suck! #lrnchat < yep. like rapid tools, eh?
8:57 PM ImmersiveLearn @Quinnovator why would someone virtually walk to a lecture or a library for 5 minutes #lrnchat
8:57 PM bschlenker RT @lrnchat Q3) What were some things that initially excited you that you grew skeptical about? Explain. #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:58 PM bschlenker #lrnchat
8:58 PM Tracy_Parish @willconstantine Or people that think mobile is purely having your site/content seen on a phone. #lrnchat
8:58 PM heikan2003 Q3) mLearning mainly due to our tech support. #lrnchat
8:58 PM willconstantine @rjhogue we have that going on now at my company. They don’t realize the iPad is a tool, not a complete solution #lrnchat
8:58 PM Tracy_Parish As long as you hand out gravol. RT @DaveHallmon: @JD_Dillon @Quinnovator A3) Let’s be innovative and use Prezi🙂 #LRNchat
8:58 PM rjhogue RT @Tracy_Parish As long as you hand out gravol. RT @DaveHallmon: @JD_Dillon @Quinnovator A3) Let’s be innovative and use Prezi🙂 #LRNchat
8:59 PM Quinnovator a3) brain-based learning. Sounds good, but Willingham makes good point about how you can’t make direct inferences across levels #lrnchat
8:59 PM willconstantine @Tracy_Parish in that case we are using mobile learning right now! #lrnchat
8:59 PM Tracy_Parish BRENT!!! (if only you could hear that sound like a cry from “Cheers”) RT @bschlenker: #lrnchat
8:59 PM willconstantine RT @Quinnovator: a3) brain-based learning. Sounds good, but Willingham makes good point about how you can’t make direct inferences across l…
8:59 PM Tracy_Parish LOL RT @willconstantine: @Tracy_Parish in that case we are using mobile learning right now! #lrnchat
9:00 PM kelly_smith01 Q3) Some elearn design tools may have made authoring to simple – removes realdesign #lrnchat
9:00 PM rjhogue RT @kelly_smith01 Q3) Some elearn design tools may have made authoring to simple – removes realdesign #lrnchat
9:00 PM DaveHallmon @Quinnovator Forgot the hash. Have you checked out http://t.co/1g4fwST5WK ? #LRNchat
9:00 PM bschlenker A3) Instructional Design Degrees #lrnchat
9:00 PM urbie #lrnchat A1 Excited by repurposing some #edcamp #tlap strategies/ideas/activities for use with my T-POP. #geniushour assessment for 1
9:00 PM Tracy_Parish Surveys!!! Sick and tired of all the surveys about everything. my experience, the service,…. #lrnchat
9:00 PM JD_Dillon @willconstantine @DaveHallmon @Quinnovator Love Haiku Deck … The anti-PPT #lrnchat
9:00 PM Tracy_Parish RT @bschlenker: A3) Instructional Design Degrees #lrnchat
9:00 PM rjhogue Q3) or worse, the thought that SMEs can do ID because they can use rapid eLearning tools #lrnchat
9:00 PM kelly_smith01 RT @bschlenker: A3) Instructional Design Degrees #lrnchat
9:01 PM willconstantine RT @Tracy_Parish: Surveys!!! Sick and tired of all the surveys about everything. my experience, the service,…. #lrnchat
9:01 PM jackietrains RT @rjhogue: Q3) or worse, the thought that SMEs can do ID because they can use rapid eLearning tools #lrnchat
9:01 PM lrnchat Q4) How can we be open to new ideas or tech while being wary of “Snake Oil”? http://t.co/1C8FyloKQv #lrnchat
9:01 PM heikan2003 RT @bschlenker: A3) Instructional Design Degrees #lrnchat I would agree with that.
9:01 PM willconstantine Uh oh now some my attention is going to Reign! #lrnchat
9:01 PM brunowinck +1 RT @Tracy_Parish: Surveys!!! Sick and tired of all the surveys about everything. my experience, the service,…. #lrnchat
9:01 PM Quinnovator RT @rjhogue: Q3) or worse, the thought that SMEs can do ID because they can use rapid eLearning tools #lrnchat
9:01 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q4) How can we be open to new ideas or tech while being wary of “Snake Oil”? http://t.co/1C8FyloKQv #lrnchat
9:01 PM rjhogue RT @lrnchat Q4) How can we be open to new ideas or tech while being wary of “Snake Oil”? http://t.co/Wlv5nEy5s2 #lrnchat
9:01 PM eLearninCyclops Q3) When told a course design plan was written, only to see an outline at best #lrnchat
9:01 PM DaveHallmon @brunowinck @Tracy_Parish Those monkeys🙂 #LRNchat
9:01 PM rjhogue Q4) read blogs on real peoples experience rather than the product hype #lrnchat
9:01 PM urbie #lrnchat A2 Most worrisome hyped ideas are #edtech with no thought to learners’ life, experience, context (aka story).
9:01 PM heikan2003 RT @lrnchat: Q4) How can we be open to new ideas or tech while being wary of “Snake Oil”? http://t.co/3ODy9sUdmG #lrnchat
9:02 PM Quinnovator a4) do the research, or get an independent opinion #lrnchat
9:02 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are the best new ideas or tech you’re excited about? Why? (i.e. Pinterest??) #lrnchat
9:02 PM jackietrains A4) Test the waters with your little toe first. #lrnchat
9:02 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lrnchat Q4) How can we be open to new ideas or tech while being wary of “Snake Oil”? http://t.co/Qj921ZvARd #lrnchat
9:02 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are the most worrisome hyped ideas? #lrnchat
9:02 PM willconstantine A4) we have to try things out for ourselves so we can be smart enough to clear out the “snake oil” #lrnchat
9:02 PM lodtrain Q4) Do a POC (proof of concept) with tech tools with good team #lrnchat
9:02 PM Tracy_Parish RT @rjhogue: Q4) read blogs on real peoples experience rather than the product hype #lrnchat
9:02 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q4) How can we be open to new ideas or tech while being wary of “Snake Oil”? http://t.co/1C8FyloKQv #lrnchat
9:02 PM Tracy_Parish Q4) Someone said it early. Test every free trial you can and then pick. #lrnchat
9:02 PM willconstantine RT @eLearninCyclops: Q3) When told a course design plan was written, only to see an outline at best #lrnchat
9:02 PM JD_Dillon RT @rjhogue: Q4) read blogs on real peoples experience rather than the product hype #lrnchat
9:02 PM heikan2003 Q4) By starting at the end. Will the new idea help learners reach the objective? #lrnchat
9:02 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q4) How can we be open to new ideas or tech while being wary of “Snake Oil”? http://t.co/1C8FyloKQv #lrnchat
9:02 PM eLearninCyclops Q4) Good thing is – can usually see it in action (30 day trial) #lrnchat
9:03 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q3) What were some things that initially excited you that you grew skeptical about? Explain. #lrnchat
9:03 PM Tracy_Parish Tap into a PLN and ask what they like, what have they used, what they recommend regarding “X”. #lrnchat
9:03 PM rjhogue RT @Tracy_Parish Tap into a PLN and ask what they like, what have they used, what they recommend regarding “X”. #lrnchat
9:03 PM HuthKah126 @lrnchat Aliens and their involvement with the ancient pyramids. The History channel is so convincing sometimes. #lrnchat
9:03 PM kelly_smith01 RT @rjhogue: RT @lrnchat Q4) How can we be open to new ideas or tech while being wary of “Snake Oil”? http://t.co/Wlv5nEy5s2 #lrnchat
9:03 PM willconstantine RT @Tracy_Parish: Q4) Someone said it early. Test every free trial you can and then pick. #lrnchat
9:03 PM lodtrain “@eLearninCyclops: Q4) Good thing is – can usually see it in action (30 day trial) #lrnchat”ex Storyline Articulate
9:03 PM brunowinck Q4) innovating, differentiating is may be more about adding ideas than just changing tools or tech #lrnchat
9:03 PM JD_Dillon A4) Align new ideas to your objectives. Don’t jump in because a keynote speaker said it’s important. #lrnchat
9:04 PM Quinnovator a4) do your own research: free trials (@Tracy_Parish), test @jackietrains, learn #lrnchat
9:04 PM DaveHallmon @lrnchat A4) When we hear the community vet the tech by talking more about the verb than noun. How can we innovate with the tech? #LRNchat
9:04 PM willconstantine RT @JD_Dillon: A4) Align new ideas to your objectives. Don’t jump in because a keynote speaker said it’s important. #lrnchat
9:04 PM lodtrain RT @JD_Dillon: A4) Align new ideas to your objectives. Don’t jump in because a keynote speaker said it’s important. #lrnchat
9:04 PM urbie #lrnchat A4 No snake oil here: borrow a page from #DesignThinking & prototype Check out @JaneBozarth book on #ShowYourWork. might work 4 you
9:04 PM Tracy_Parish Best tweet of the night goes to: @HuthKah126: Aliens & their involvement with pyramids. History channel is so convincing. #lrnchat
9:04 PM eLearninCyclops Q4) Look for the tools that support your design, not vice versa #lrnchat
9:04 PM kelly_smith01 Q4) Push out questions about the idea/technology on social media particpate in chats like #lrnchat
9:04 PM Quinnovator a4) we need to be doing more experiments, be willing to fail. Find the key affordances, and don’t let go! #lrnchat
9:04 PM eLearninCyclops RT @kelly_smith01 Q4) Push out questions about the idea/technology on social media particpate in chats like #lrnchat
9:05 PM willconstantine A4) above all work with what works for you. Not all snake oil concepts are made for everyone #lrnchat
9:05 PM JD_Dillon A4) Find ways to prove that new concepts will work for your audience before you go all in. #lrnchat
9:05 PM Tracy_Parish Great point Jeff. RT @eLearninCyclops: Q4) Look for the tools that support your design, not vice versa #lrnchat
9:05 PM DaveHallmon RT @eLearninCyclops: RT @kelly_smith01 Q4) Push out questions about the idea/technology on social media particpate in chats like #lrnchat
9:05 PM heikan2003 RT @eLearninCyclops: Q4) Look for the tools that support your design, not vice versa #lrnchat
9:05 PM HuthKah126 @lrnchat Research is always helpful! If there is uncertainty there are always credible resources somewhere. #lrnchat
9:05 PM willconstantine RT @Quinnovator: a4) we need to be doing more experiments, be willing to fail. Find the key affordances, and don’t let go! #lrnchat
9:05 PM Quinnovator RT @JD_Dillon: A4) Find ways to prove that new concepts will work for your audience before you go all in. #lrnchat
9:05 PM JD_Dillon A4) Fail quickly. #lrnchat
9:05 PM lodtrain “@eLearninCyclops: Q4) Look for the tools that support your design, not vice versa #lrnchat”and try to stdize on tools (small toolkit)
9:05 PM rjhogue A4) willingness to fail works when you are an employee, not so much when you are a consultant! #lrnchat
9:05 PM willconstantine RT @Tracy_Parish: Great point Jeff. RT @eLearninCyclops: Q4) Look for the tools that support your design, not vice versa #lrnchat
9:05 PM jadekaz @heikan2003 @bschlenker So dont agree. Loved my degree from Boise State. Great mix of practical, theory and experience. #lrnchat
9:05 PM Quinnovator RT @JD_Dillon: A4) Fail quickly. #lrnchat < and learn from it😉
9:06 PM heikan2003 There is something to be said for running a pilot. #lrnchat
9:06 PM willconstantine @JD_Dillon the faster you fail, hopefully the faster you learn #lrnchat
9:06 PM JaneBozarth Sorry too many timezones lately! Whassup #lrnchat?
9:06 PM DaveHallmon @lrnchat A4) Usability test with real users, on their devices, and in their environment. Then see if they can perform… #LRNchat
9:06 PM rjhogue @jadekaz @heikan2003 @bschlenker I’d say the issue with ID degrees is the PhDs teaching who have never had jobs outside of academia #lrnchat
9:06 PM JD_Dillon A4) Iterate. I’ve used 3 calendar apps so far this year. Always a new toy that matches my needs more effectively. Say flexible. #lrnchat
9:06 PM lodtrain “@Quinnovator: RT @JD_Dillon: A4) Fail quickly. #lrnchat < and learn from it ;)” and share with others like at #lrnchat
9:06 PM brunowinck Good morning jane, we are at Q4 @JaneBozarth #lrnchat
9:07 PM ImmersiveLearn RT @lrnchat: Q4) How can we be open to new ideas or tech while being wary of “Snake Oil”? http://t.co/1C8FyloKQv #lrnchat
9:07 PM heikan2003 @jadekaz I would never diss someone’s further ed. or any learning for that matter. Just have questioned it for myself. #lrnchat
9:07 PM kelly_smith01 Q4) Ask: Does the tech tool push or pull? Focus on pull tools – (Brown/Hagel) #lrnchat
9:07 PM DaveHallmon @JaneBozarth We are milking snakes😉 #LRNchat
9:07 PM Quinnovator RT @JaneBozarth: Sorry too many timezones lately! Whassup #lrnchat? < welcome Dr. Jane!
9:07 PM lrnchat Next up: Think of frameworks: theories, models, 70:20:10, generations, Problem-based learning, learning styles, etc…#lrnchat
9:08 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Next up: Think of frameworks: theories, models, 70:20:10, generations, Problem-based learning, learning styles, etc…#lrnchat
9:08 PM willconstantine RT @DaveHallmon: @JaneBozarth We are milking snakes😉 #LRNchat
9:08 PM rjhogue 70:20:10? #lrnchat
9:08 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Next up: Think of frameworks: theories, models, 70:20:10, generations, Problem-based learning, learning styles, etc…#lrnchat
9:08 PM lrnchat Q5) What are the benefits of new frameworks to learning (ideas/approaches)? #lrnchat
9:08 PM eLearninCyclops Q4) Don’t hesitate to looks to other fields to find new tools and solutions – & get their recommendations #lrnchat
9:08 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q5) What are the benefits of new frameworks to learning (ideas/approaches)? #lrnchat
9:08 PM JaneBozarth RT @jadekaz: @heikan2003 @bschlenker So dont agree. Loved my degree from Boise State. Great mix of practical, theory and experience. #lrnc…
9:08 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q5) What are the benefits of new frameworks to learning (ideas/approaches)? #lrnchat
9:08 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lrnchat Q5) What are the benefits of new frameworks to learning (ideas/approaches)? #lrnchat
9:08 PM heikan2003 Hey @janebozarth Hope we did not wake you.🙂 #lrnchat
9:08 PM rjhogue RT @lrnchat Q5) What are the benefits of new frameworks to learning (ideas/approaches)? #lrnchat
9:09 PM jadekaz @rjhogue @heikan2003 @bschlenker I hear you. The quality of programs (instructors, curriculum, methodology) vary. #lrnchat
9:09 PM Tracy_Parish Here’s one example: https://t.co/EztoA9uJu6 #lrnchat
9:09 PM DaveHallmon @lrnchat A5) New frameworks make us think twice about old frameworks. #LRNchat
9:09 PM Quinnovator a5) frameworks give us conceptual relationships to leverage to solve problems, explain outcomes, predict consequences #lrnchat
9:09 PM Tracy_Parish RT @lrnchat: Q5) What are the benefits of new frameworks to learning (ideas/approaches)? #lrnchat
9:09 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q5) What are the benefits of new frameworks to learning (ideas/approaches)? #lrnchat
9:09 PM ImmersiveLearn @lrnchat Q4) try a lean approach. Start small so that you can Look at the data for effectiveness and iterate or pivot #lrnchat
9:09 PM JD_Dillon A5) New awesome learning strategy wall posters?🙂 #lrnchat
9:09 PM Tracy_Parish RT @JD_Dillon: A5) New awesome learning strategy wall posters?🙂 #lrnchat
9:10 PM JaneBozarth RT @DaveHallmon: @lrnchat A5) New frameworks make us think twice about old frameworks. #LRNchat
9:10 PM Quinnovator a5) if new frameworks are grounded in new understandings, give us new power #lrnchat
9:10 PM rjhogue RT @Tracy_Parish Here’s one example: https://t.co/wgdokVNEIU #lrnchat << dumb website, doesn’t tell you what it is on the title page!
9:10 PM heikan2003 @jadekaz Boise State distance program? Noticed your bio mentions a fave city-Milwaukee. #lrnchat
9:10 PM DaveHallmon @JD_Dillon Infographics! Let’s learn from those instead of reading the actual source🙂 #LRNchat
9:10 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q5) What are the benefits of new frameworks to learning (ideas/approaches)? #lrnchat
9:10 PM Quinnovator a5) even in new frameworks only reframe, can make more accessible to others, give new insights, more approaches to solve #lrnchat
9:10 PM Tracy_Parish Q5) New frameworks – challenge the old. If it’s good it will stick, if it’s not then time to through it out. #lrnchat
9:10 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q5) What are the benefits of new frameworks to learning (ideas/approaches)? #lrnchat
9:10 PM JaneBozarth @DaveHallmon If we don’t spend all our time defending the old framework #lrnchat
9:11 PM Quinnovator RT @DaveHallmon: @JD_Dillon Infographics! Let’s learn from those instead of reading the actual source🙂 #LRNchat
9:11 PM lodtrain Q5) New Frameworks and thinking such as #ShowYourWork help us to reach learners depend upon their style #lrnchat
9:11 PM heikan2003 Q5) New frameworks may grab the attention of learners who have not connected to other methods. #lrnchat
9:11 PM rjhogue Q5) I hope there are benefits, since my PhD research involves creating one🙂
#lrnchat
9:11 PM Quinnovator RT @JaneBozarth: @DaveHallmon If we don’t spend all our time defending the old framework #lrnchat < but I’m invested!
9:11 PM urbie #lrnchat A5 Benefits of frameworks are repeat ability and (after you’ve moved on to bigger and better) sustainability.
9:11 PM willconstantine RT @Tracy_Parish: Q5) New frameworks – challenge the old. If it’s good it will stick, if it’s not then time to through it out. #lrnchat
9:11 PM jadekaz New frameworks, new ideas. Environment and needs change and the frameworks should to. #lrnchat
9:11 PM DaveHallmon @JaneBozarth Thinking twice usually happens pretty quick. #LRNchat
9:11 PM ImmersiveLearn @Quinnovator I agree everything new is an experiment even if it’s proven. Try. Fail. Learn. Iterate #lrnchat
9:12 PM JaneBozarth Q5 Help us fit new ideas in to existing practice #lrnchat
9:12 PM kelly_smith01 Q5) Learner directed – Not all the time but most of the time #lrnchat
9:12 PM bschlenker RT @lodtrain: Q1) Also still love short videos and YouTube for Company- attn span short vids best for educ #lrnchat
9:12 PM Quinnovator RT @rjhogue: Q5) hope there are benefits, since my PhD research involves creating one🙂
#lrnchat < getting the PhD is benefit enough!🙂
9:12 PM JD_Dillon A5) Always good to explore new approaches, but your objectives and culture should dictate adoption. #lrnchat
9:12 PM rjhogue Q5) Help us fit/integrate new technologies into practice #lrnchat
9:12 PM jackietrains A5) Any new perspective brings fresh ideas. #lrnchat
9:12 PM bschlenker RT @willconstantine: A1) I am really excited about sketchnoting with @rohdesign awesome and I get to draw all day just like kindergarten #l…
9:12 PM kelly_smith01 RT @JaneBozarth: Q5 Help us fit new ideas in to existing practice #lrnchat
9:12 PM DaveHallmon @lrnchat A5) Is the new always built on the foundations of the old? #LRNchat
9:12 PM lodtrain RT @JD_Dillon: A5) Always good to explore new approaches, but your objectives and culture should dictate adoption. #lrnchat
9:13 PM willconstantine A5) Learner anything is more important than anything #lrnchat
9:13 PM lodtrain RT @jackietrains: A5) Any new perspective brings fresh ideas. #lrnchat
9:13 PM ImmersiveLearn RT @lrnchat: Q5) What are the benefits of new frameworks to learning (ideas/approaches)? #lrnchat
9:13 PM JaneBozarth @Tracy_Parish well, sometimes if it’s bad it still sticks #learningstyles #generations #MBTI …. #lrnchat
9:13 PM willconstantine RT @JD_Dillon: A5) Always good to explore new approaches, but your objectives and culture should dictate adoption. #lrnchat
9:13 PM jadekaz Our understanding of brain and learning is in infancy. If our frameworks werent changing, i’d be worried. Old can be snake oil too #lrnchat
9:13 PM jackietrains There ya go! RT @jadekaz: Old can be snake oil too #lrnchat
9:13 PM Tracy_Parish Agreed! RT @JaneBozarth: @Tracy_Parish well, sometimes if it’s bad it still sticks #learningstyles #generations #MBTI …. #lrnchat
9:14 PM JaneBozarth @DaveHallmon I wish some would just think ONCE. #lrnchat
9:14 PM ImmersiveLearn Q5) Lean approaches, agile, rapid prototyping… They lead to quick feedback, failing quickly, and learning quickly #lrnchat
9:14 PM rjhogue In practice we don’t always have the time to do the thorough needs analysis, in research hopefully we can … #lrnchat
9:14 PM willconstantine A5) frameworks could become the biggest source of snake oil #lrnchat
9:14 PM jadekaz @heikan2003 Yes it was all online…for me. All their classes were in classroom too. #lrnchat
9:14 PM DaveHallmon Who wants to buy some #snakeoil? All your learners have to do is take two drops a day and they will be geniuses! #LRNchat
9:14 PM lodtrain RT @ImmersiveLearn: Q5) Lean approaches, agile, rapid prototyping… They lead to quick feedback, failing quickly, and learning quickly #lr…
9:14 PM theASIDEblog There’s lots of snake oil remedies tied to technology because the device is put ahead of the learning. #lrnchat
9:14 PM rjhogue I just worry about framework hype – there is already too much about learning styles and net generation learners! #lrnchat
9:15 PM Tracy_Parish RT @theASIDEblog: There’s lots of snake oil remedies tied to technology because the device is put ahead of the learning. #lrnchat
9:15 PM ImmersiveLearn @JaneBozarth @DaveHallmon think slow, do more #lrnchat
9:15 PM Quinnovator RT @willconstantine: A5) frameworks could become the biggest source of snake oil #lrnchat < over-hyped, under-thought, yes!
9:15 PM brunowinck 🙂 @DaveHallmon: Who wants to buy some #snakeoil? All your learners have to do is take two drops a day and they will be geniuses! #LRNchat
9:15 PM kelly_smith01 Q5) Sometimes a gentle wrap on the knucles works #lrnchat
9:15 PM willconstantine RT @DaveHallmon: Who wants to buy some #snakeoil? All your learners have to do is take two drops a day and they will be geniuses! #LRNchat
9:15 PM JD_Dillon A5) Remember that new approaches for L&D don’t have to come from L&D. #lrnchat
9:15 PM Quinnovator RT @JD_Dillon: A5) Remember that new approaches for L&D don’t have to come from L&D. #lrnchat
9:15 PM JaneBozarth RT @JD_Dillon: A4) Align new ideas to your objectives. Don’t jump in because a keynote speaker said it’s important. #lrnchat
9:15 PM rjhogue RT @Tracy_Parish Agreed! RT @JaneBozarth: @Tracy_Parish well, sometimes if it’s bad it still sticks #learningstyles #generations #lrnchat
9:15 PM jackietrains Soooo true. RT @JD_Dillon: A5) Remember that new approaches for L&D don’t have to come from L&D. #lrnchat
9:16 PM lrnchat Q6) What are the dangers of new frameworks? #lrnchat
9:16 PM HuthKah126 @lrnchat Technological innovation is the key to success. Using it as a tool has advantages that support various learning styles. #lrnchat
9:16 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q6) What are the dangers of new frameworks? #lrnchat
9:16 PM JD_Dillon RT @lrnchat: Q6) What are the dangers of new frameworks? #lrnchat
9:16 PM jackietrains A6) Shaky scaffolding? #lrnchat
9:16 PM Quinnovator a6) hype! “Our LMS will meet *all* your learning needs!” #lrnchat
9:16 PM kelly_smith01 Sorry about my spelling – TweetDeck has made in worse #lrnchat
9:17 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q6) What are the dangers of new frameworks? #lrnchat
9:17 PM ImmersiveLearn RT @lrnchat: Q6) What are the dangers of new frameworks? #lrnchat
9:17 PM JD_Dillon A6) Shoehorning a model into your culture because it’s all the rage in your industry. #lrnchat
9:17 PM theASIDEblog It’s okay to challenge the status quo, but the remedy needs to work. Too many are shouting tablets as the end and be all. #lrnchat
9:17 PM JaneBozarth @rjhogue amen. Being driven crazy lately by people who fall for ‘generations’ talk. And why isn’t that age discrimination, anyway? #lrnchat
9:17 PM Quinnovator a6) frameworks can be conceptually clear and well grounded. Or not. Latter is concern #lrnchat
9:17 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q6) What are the dangers of new frameworks? #lrnchat
9:17 PM kelly_smith01 RT @Quinnovator: a6) hype! “Our LMS will meet *all* your learning needs!” #lrnchat
9:17 PM JD_Dillon A6) Pseudo-science meant to sell tech. #lrnchat
9:17 PM lodtrain Q6) Dangers of new frameworks are someone saying lets redo all earler ecourses etc to new framework… #lrnchat
9:17 PM ImmersiveLearn @lrnchat q6) Staff that doesn’t know how to implement them correctly #lrnchat
9:18 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q6) What are the dangers of new frameworks? #lrnchat
9:18 PM DaveHallmon @lrnchat Who needs teachers when the textbook publishers offer an automated LMS? #LRNchat
9:18 PM rjhogue RT @lrnchat Q6) What are the dangers of new frameworks? #lrnchat
9:18 PM ImmersiveLearn @lrnchat q6) May sound good in theory but may not be practical in the real world #lrnchat
9:18 PM Tracy_Parish Or ppl that don’t take time to understand them to begin with.RT @ImmersiveLearn: @lrnchat q6) Staff doesn’t know how to implement #lrnchat
9:18 PM HuthKah126 @lrnchat New frameworks bring new ideas and new ideas can sometimes be dangerous. #lrnchat
9:18 PM heikan2003 RT @ImmersiveLearn: @lrnchat q6) Staff that doesn’t know how to implement them correctly #lrnchat amen.
9:18 PM jadekaz A6) Ignorance of any type of theory or evidence. Looks great on a PPT screen and And sounds fun, though. #lrnchat
9:18 PM Quinnovator a6) making plausible and appealing claims on no further basis! (*cough* generations *cough*) #lrnchat
9:18 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q6) What are the dangers of new frameworks? #lrnchat
9:18 PM JD_Dillon A6) Getting everyone else to come along for the ride when it is a good idea. #lrnchat
9:19 PM ImmersiveLearn @lrnchat q6) May be successful in other contexts but not successful in L&D #lrnchat
9:19 PM kelly_smith01 Q6) Our LMS will easily adapt to new learning practices and methodologies #lrnchat
9:19 PM theASIDEblog Like all “remedies” they come with side affects. Tech has its issues, because it is sometimes pushed down throats. #lrnchat
9:19 PM jackietrains Well, TweetDeck only says very nice things about you. RT @kelly_smith01: Sorry about my spelling – TweetDeck has made in worse #lrnchat
9:19 PM Quinnovator a6) frameworks that’re appealing, plausible, but wrong! #lrnchat
9:19 PM rjhogue A6) frameworks that don’t consider sustainability / longer term maintenance … short term answers #lrnchat
9:19 PM lodtrain “@kelly_smith01: Q6) Our LMS will easily adapt to new learning practices and methodologies #lrnchat”🙂
9:19 PM JD_Dillon A6) Angering the ADDIE gods. #lrnchat
9:19 PM rjhogue RT @Quinnovator a6) frameworks that’re appealing, plausible, but wrong! #lrnchat
9:20 PM willconstantine @ImmersiveLearn @lrnchat just like “sounds good on paper….” #lrnchat
9:20 PM Quinnovator RT @JD_Dillon: A6) Angering the ADDIE gods. #lrnchat < or the vested interests!
9:20 PM urbie #lrnchat A6 The dangers of new frameworks are being too attached to them. Develop framework, fail try something new should be how it works.
9:20 PM ImmersiveLearn RT @willconstantine: @ImmersiveLearn @lrnchat just like “sounds good on paper….” #lrnchat
9:20 PM rjhogue I think also the need to stick to a framework rather than adapt it to your context #lrnchat
9:21 PM JD_Dillon A6) Then you have to buy a whole new ASTD learning kit ….🙂 #lrnchat
9:21 PM kelly_smith01 @jackietrains TweetDeck as always been nice to me – maybe not always fast #lrnchat
9:21 PM rjhogue I think permission to adapt to your context might be the first line in my dissertation! #lrnchat
9:21 PM robbartlett RT @Tracy_Parish: Agreed! RT @JaneBozarth: @Tracy_Parish well, sometimes if it’s bad it still sticks #learningstyles #generations #MBTI ……
9:21 PM lrnchat Q7) How do you (personally) evaluate new ideas/approaches (proposals for frameworks)? #lrnchat
9:21 PM DaveHallmon @lrnchat A6) They become a track on your next conference. #LRNchat
9:21 PM rjhogue RT @lrnchat Q7) How do you (personally) evaluate new ideas/approaches (proposals for frameworks)? #lrnchat
9:22 PM JD_Dillon RT @lrnchat: Q7) How do you (personally) evaluate new ideas/approaches (proposals for frameworks)? #lrnchat
9:22 PM ImmersiveLearn @Quinnovator @JD_Dillon or the outdated #lrnchat
9:22 PM willconstantine RT @JD_Dillon: A6) Then you have to buy a whole new ASTD learning kit ….🙂 #lrnchat
9:22 PM brunowinck RT @lrnchat: Q7) How do you (personally) evaluate new ideas/approaches (proposals for frameworks)? #lrnchat
9:22 PM willconstantine RT @lrnchat: Q7) How do you (personally) evaluate new ideas/approaches (proposals for frameworks)? #lrnchat
9:22 PM Quinnovator RT @rjhogue: think also the need to stick to a framework rather than adapt it to your context #lrnchat < best principles vs best practices
9:22 PM Tracy_Parish Q7) I wait for @JaneBozarth to set me straight.😉 #lrnchat
9:22 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q7) How do you (personally) evaluate new ideas/approaches (proposals for frameworks)? #lrnchat
9:22 PM jadekaz New eye candy…tools, frameworks, etc…detract from valuable progress in old work. Loses funds, attention, and leadership support #lrnchat
9:22 PM ImmersiveLearn RT @Tracy_Parish: Or ppl that don’t take time to understand them to begin with.RT @ImmersiveLearn: @lrnchat q6) Staff doesn’t know how to i…
9:22 PM ImmersiveLearn RT @heikan2003: RT @ImmersiveLearn: @lrnchat q6) Staff that doesn’t know how to implement them correctly #lrnchat amen.
9:22 PM JD_Dillon A7) Talk to people who know a heck of a lot more than me … And LISTEN! #lrnchat
9:22 PM rjhogue Q7) Depends .. I build … and I read blogs of other people who build .. please blog your experiences! #lrnchat
9:22 PM jackietrains Q7) Run it through the filter of my experience, see if it resonates, and go from there. #lrnchat
9:22 PM lodtrain Q7) We evaluate as a team and then each member teaches others their researched approach and then we c if it makes sense for us #lrnchat
9:22 PM kelly_smith01 Acronym Devilishly Designed to Impress Executives (ADDIE) #lrnchat – sorry
9:23 PM willconstantine A7) you have to try them out for yourself and make sure they suit your LEARNERS needs #lrnchat
9:23 PM DaveHallmon RT @kelly_smith01: Acronym Devilishly Designed to Impress Executives (ADDIE) #lrnchat – sorry
9:23 PM brunowinck A7) Does it stick to my case, bring new ideas, offer new perspectives ? If not be circonspect #lrnchat
9:23 PM willconstantine RT @DaveHallmon: @lrnchat A6) They become a track on your next conference. #LRNchat
9:23 PM kelly_smith01 RT @jackietrains: Q7) Run it through the filter of my experience, see if it resonates, and go from there. #lrnchat
9:23 PM Tracy_Parish Q7) I’d love to find stuff on my own, but usually I’m trying to tune in and find out what others are raving on.#lrnchat
9:23 PM willconstantine RT @Tracy_Parish: Q7) I wait for @JaneBozarth to set me straight.😉 #lrnchat
9:23 PM Quinnovator a7) apply ‘sniff’ test: on principle what are key affordances? Mesh with what I know? Run some mental simulations #lrnchat
9:23 PM JD_Dillon A7) Read. Discuss. Experiment. Share. Repeat. #lrnchat
9:23 PM heikan2003 Q7) I usually have to map it out; analyze it; talk it through with others. read some blogs. #lrnchat
9:23 PM theASIDEblog Looking at new ideas and approaches is all about balance. Too much, too fast can cause problems. #lrnchat
9:24 PM Tracy_Parish Q7) This is why I have several email accounts – free trial, free trial, free trial #lrnchat
9:24 PM DaveHallmon @lrnchat A7) Vet their research. Vet where their research is published. Vet who has veted their research. #LRNchat
9:24 PM ImmersiveLearn @lrnchat Q7) Look for opportunities for success. Start small, implement quickly, evaluate quickly. #lrnchat
9:24 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: Q7) How do you (personally) evaluate new ideas/approaches (proposals for frameworks)? #lrnchat
9:24 PM JD_Dillon A7) Share new ideas with the people you’re trying to help, even if they aren’t “learning people.” #lrnchat
9:24 PM Tracy_Parish You missed Rinse in there, but yes.🙂 RT @JD_Dillon: A7) Read. Discuss. Experiment. Share. Repeat. #lrnchat
9:24 PM jadekaz Listen, read, and THINK. Then test, try, reflect. That seems like a framework for all of life’s problems. #lrnchat
9:24 PM Quinnovator RT @Tracy_Parish: You missed Rinse in there, but yes.🙂 RT @JD_Dillon: A7) Read. Discuss. Experiment. Share. Repeat. #lrnchat
9:24 PM ImmersiveLearn RT @JD_Dillon: A7) Read. Discuss. Experiment. Share. Repeat. #lrnchat
9:24 PM brunowinck Lol RT @Tracy_Parish: Q7) This is why I have several email accounts – free trial, free trial, free trial #lrnchat
9:24 PM Quinnovator RT @jadekaz: Listen, read, and THINK. Then test, try, reflect. That seems like a framework for all of life’s problems. #lrnchat
9:24 PM willconstantine RT @Tracy_Parish: Q7) I’d love to find stuff on my own, but usually I’m trying to tune in and find out what others are raving on.#lrnchat
9:25 PM willconstantine RT @Tracy_Parish: Q7) This is why I have several email accounts – free trial, free trial, free trial #lrnchat
9:25 PM rjhogue @Tracy_Parish VM Ware is also good for extending trials🙂 #lrnchat
9:25 PM kelly_smith01 RT @brunowinck: Lol RT @Tracy_Parish: Q7) This is why I have several email accounts – free trial, free trial, free trial #lrnchat
9:25 PM willconstantine @Tracy_Parish what kind of trials lately? #lrnchat
9:25 PM theASIDEblog The evaluative process must be 360 degrees or something gets missed. #lrnchat
9:25 PM Quinnovator a7) wait until the initial blush is off, and then see if it’s still standing #lrnchat
9:25 PM ImmersiveLearn Q7) implementing new frameworks into a large long term strategy without experimentation usually leads to big failure #lrnchat
9:25 PM kelly_smith01 RT @theASIDEblog: The evaluative process must be 360 degrees or something gets missed. #lrnchat
9:26 PM Quinnovator RT @DaveHallmon: @lrnchat A7) Vet their research. Vet where their research is published. Vet who has veted their research. #LRNchat
9:26 PM JD_Dillon A7) Ask yourself … “Could this possibly help me achieve my objective?” If no, move on. #lrnchat
9:26 PM Tracy_Parish Q7) Share you ideas and get feedback. You may not have even thought of a way to use your favourite tool or “framework” #lrnchat
9:26 PM McGough3R #lrnchat A7: I ask myself if my Ss are going 2 benefit from the new concept or strategy. Practical application is key 4 my approval.
9:26 PM kelly_smith01 Q7) See if it comes up as a question in #lrnchat weekly chat
9:26 PM DaveHallmon @lrnchat A7) see if it becomes a topic of #LRNchat
9:27 PM urbie #lrnchat A7 prototyping is THE way to ideate/evaluate frameworks.
9:27 PM brunowinck Rinse is the key RT @Tracy_Parish: You missed Rinse in there, but yes.🙂 RT @JD_Dillon: A7) Read.Discuss.Experiment.Share.Repeat. #lrnchat
9:27 PM DaveHallmon @kelly_smith01 I just thought the same thing🙂 #LRNchat
9:27 PM robbartlett A6 all models are wrong some are useful- G. Box #lrnchat
9:27 PM willconstantine @kelly_smith01 we only talk about quality here!🙂 #lrnchat
9:27 PM robbartlett RT @Quinnovator: RT @rjhogue: think also the need to stick to a framework rather than adapt it to your context #lrnchat < best principles v…
9:28 PM lrnchat QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:28 PM DaveHallmon What if I lower the price of my #snakeoil? #LRNchat
9:28 PM brunowinck Q7) Framework in, framework out, see what’s left when dust settled, we got many framework in Software tech, oups powerbreak #lrnchat
9:29 PM McGough3R @Quinnovator Great turn of phrase…”after the first blush wears off.” Staying power is important to innovation. #lrnchat
9:29 PM Tracy_Parish Great chat everyone. Great to be back in the thick of #lrnchat.
9:29 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat < already?
9:29 PM MCFraserElvira RT @ImmersiveLearn: Q7) implementing new frameworks into a large long term strategy without experimentation usually leads to big failure #l…
9:29 PM urbie RT @lrnchat: QWrap. It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:29 PM Tracy_Parish Cheers #lrnchat folks. Tracy Parish, ID, healthcare – Toronto, Ontario
9:29 PM brunowinck QWrap) Bruno Winck at Kneaver -> Registration is open ! get your for the next #lrnchat : chat and learn
9:29 PM Quinnovator another wild and wise #lrnchat, thanks to new and returning perpetrators!
9:30 PM lodtrain QWrap) Great #lrnchat and thx from IT Global Education, and not a snake(oil) in sight
9:30 PM JD_Dillon QWrap) JD from Orlando, FL. Presenting at #LSCon in March. Come say hi! #lrnchat
9:30 PM DaveHallmon What if I offer some #snakeoil swag? And provide free training? #LRNchat
9:30 PM rjhogue QWrap) Rebecca Hogue, PhD Candidate, Parttime professor, Consultant (Storyline development, web programming, ID) #lrnchat
9:30 PM Quinnovator RT @kelly_smith01: Q7) See if it comes up as a question in #lrnchat weekly chat
9:30 PM MCFraserElvira RT @DaveHallmon: What if I lower the price of my #snakeoil? #LRNchat
9:30 PM ImmersiveLearn @lrnchat Sr. Instructional Designer at @LinkedIn . This was my first #lrnchat . It was fun!
9:30 PM willconstantine QWrap) Will Constantine, EMR trainer, @nnjastd President Elect, researcher of learning #lrnchat
9:31 PM Tracy_Parish Glad you made it. RT @ImmersiveLearn: @lrnchat Sr. Instructional Designer at @LinkedIn . This was my first #lrnchat . It was fun!
9:31 PM urbie #lrnchat awrap urbie delgado, instructional designer, urbie dot com
9:31 PM McGough3R #lrnchat A7 I also find the iterative process to work well: prototype & refine until success. FAIL does mean first attempt in learning.
9:31 PM willconstantine RT @DaveHallmon: What if I offer some #snakeoil swag? And provide free training? #LRNchat
9:31 PM jadekaz @rjhogue Not familiar with the education dept’s program. I did the one in the engineering dept for performance/learning #lrnchat
9:31 PM bschlenker RT @ImmersiveLearn @lrnchat Sr. Instructional Designer at @LinkedIn . This was my first #lrnchat . It was fun! <good to meet you! #lrnchat
9:31 PM kelly_smith01 QWrap) Kelly Smith – I always ask the question – Do you have a signed contract #lrnchat
9:31 PM willconstantine RT @Tracy_Parish: Glad you made it. RT @ImmersiveLearn: @lrnchat Sr. Instructional Designer at @LinkedIn . This was my first #lrnchat . It …
9:31 PM jackietrains QWrap) Thanks for another fun #lrnchat! Jackie Van Nice – happy freelance ID making her own frameworks and paradigms in SC.
9:31 PM Quinnovator Clark Quinn, instigating an L&D revolution (stay tuned), hope to see you at Guild’s Learning Solutions or ASTD ICE! #lrnchat
9:32 PM willconstantine RT @McGough3R: #lrnchat A7 I also find the iterative process to work well: prototype & refine until success. FAIL does mean first attempt i…
9:32 PM rjhogue Thanks everyone for the great chat. It was nice to re-connect. Its been awhile … #lrnchat
9:32 PM thatlearningguy Rats! Looks like I just missed #lrnchat.
9:32 PM lrnchat Thanks everyone for joining #lrnchat tonight. See you next week! Look for weekly transcripts at http://t.co/ijNIXq164N