Transcript – January 16: What Happens to New Learning As We Grow More Confident

Theme: “What happens to new learning as we grow confident with it?”
Pre-Reading Article: Teen drivers start cautiously, grow careless with time

8:29 PM lrnchat Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
8:29 PM davidbell02 RT @lrnchat Welcome everyone to #lrnchat! How have you been?
8:30 PM write2tg Joining #lrnchat now! Quick prereading: What happens to new learning as we grow confident w it? http://t.co/nbwK1hcfvU
8:30 PM lodtrain IT global education happy to be at #lrnchat even though not a novice still pay attn each time
8:30 PM JaneBozarth @DaveHallmon Indeed i am #lrnchat
8:30 PM DaveHallmon @lrnchat Getting good work done this week finally and it feels good🙂 #LRNchat
8:30 PM DavidDLaCroix Time for a spot of #lrnchat, friends. Do pull up a chair.
8:31 PM kelly_smith01 Working out loud this week almost 100% productively #lrnchat
8:31 PM JaneBozarth @nickfloro hey there Nick. How’s things? #lrnchat
8:31 PM shalineemattoo RT @write2tg: Joining #lrnchat now! Quick prereading: What happens to new learning as we grow confident w it? http://t.co/nbwK1hcfvU
8:31 PM lrnchat Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat
8:32 PM davidbell02 RT @lrnchat Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat
8:32 PM AllisonAnderson Hello #lrnchat friends! Hope you are all well this fine day/eve
8:32 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat
8:32 PM DavidDLaCroix RT @lrnchat: Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat
8:32 PM DaveHallmon @JaneBozarth We all reached multitasking mastery for phones and the driving wheel. #LRNchat
8:32 PM soozietwits #lrnchat
I’m feeling awesome! Been researching and assimilating and writing
8:32 PM soozietwits RT @lrnchat: Please introduce yourselves. Passions? Projects? What are you working on these days? #lrnchat
8:32 PM shalineemattoo I think it is more than being a confident learner…it is the teenage brain too #lrnchat
8:33 PM kelly_smith01 Kelly Smith Plano, TX workin’ in data stuff and learning #lrnchat
8:33 PM lodtrain IT Global Education passionate about all things geeky and training #lrnchat
8:33 PM Quinnovator time again for the 60 min memestream that is #lrnchat. Welcome to new and returning participants
8:33 PM bschlenker What’s up #lrnchat ?
8:33 PM TriciaRansom Hey everyone, this is Tricia in the heart of Silicon Valley from a real-life start up! #lrnchat
8:33 PM JaneBozarth @AllisonAnderson well hey how’ve you been? #lrnchat
8:33 PM AllisonAnderson Allison in Portland. Preparing to exit my current role. LOTS to learn & think about. #lrnchat
8:33 PM soozietwits #lrnchat – I’ve been messing about with Freire & hooks… messing up my assumptions on education and going all democratic ed!
8:33 PM JaneBozarth @shalineemattoo we needed a starting place… #lrnchat
8:33 PM eLearninCyclops Jeff Goldman – eLearning Guy in Baltimore, MD #lrnchat
8:33 PM shalineemattoo Shalinee from Chicago..informal and social learning #lrnchat
8:33 PM 2be2learn Tracy from CA working on speaker-free conference Feb in Portland OR #lrnchat
8:33 PM davidbell02 L&D professional, Houston, Learning about leadership #lrnchat
8:33 PM Quinnovator Clark Quinn, L&D troublemaker, genial malcontent, author/speaker/consultant, Walnut Creek CA #lrnchat
8:33 PM LearnerAdvocate #lrnchat Angel Green sr instructional strategist Allen Interactions. Working on a massive blended learning program. Nearing gold…whew!
8:34 PM write2tg Taruna Goel – L&D consultant/program manager from Vancouver, BC, Passionate about learning and reflecting #lrnchat
8:34 PM TriciaRansom .@2be2learn speaker free conference? Sign me up! #lrnchat
8:34 PM lrnchat Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:34 PM TriciaRansom RT @lrnchat Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:34 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:34 PM brunowinck Good morning ! Bruno Winck, Travelling Software Architect for @kneaver, sipping tea in Madurai, TN, India #lrnchat
8:34 PM DavidDLaCroix Dave in DC (not to be confused w any other #lrnchat Dave). At @VersatilePhD I’m a little less “learning” these days, but still in the zone.
8:34 PM AllisonAnderson @JaneBozarth Well hello! Have been well, getting better! You? #lrnchat
8:34 PM JaneBozarth @2be2learn tell us more? #lrnchat
8:34 PM DaveHallmon @lrnchat I am an #InstructionalDesigner in #HigherEd passionate about learning. #LRNchat
8:35 PM DavidDLaCroix RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:35 PM lodtrain Working on teams 1 hr webinars – called tech tuesdays great new ideas and fun lrning #lrnchat
8:35 PM davidbell02 RT @lrnchat Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:35 PM shalineemattoo Just curious are you all logged in from phones right now? #lrnchat
8:35 PM theASIDEblog We’re looking forward to #lrnchat tonight. We learned that negotiation is a key ingredient of collaboration.
8:35 PM lodtrain Learned that there is more to learn about Snagit (been using for yrs) but look at this #lrnchat http://t.co/gqna82dRE5
8:35 PM kelly_smith01 Reading Edgar H. Schein’s Humble Humble Inquiry #lrnchat
8:35 PM TriciaRansom Q0) I learned that my husband has never seen The Waterboy #lrnchat
8:35 PM DaveHallmon @shalineemattoo And driving? LOL #LRNchat
8:35 PM DavidDLaCroix I (re-)learned that Excel is powerful, just not always in the ways that I want! Plus it’s good to get your hands on the real data. #lrnchat
8:36 PM DaveHallmon @kelly_smith01 Sounds interesting. #LRNchat
8:36 PM JaneBozarth RT @lodtrain: Learned that there is more to learn about Snagit (been using for yrs) but look at this #lrnchat http://t.co/gqna82dRE5
8:36 PM eLearninCyclops Q0) Learned today – My HackLab worksheet from #DevLearn works on just about anything #lrnchat
8:36 PM write2tg A0) I have been reading about Pecha Kucha. Today I decided that the only way to learn is to DO it! Doing is learning🙂 #lrnchat
8:36 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat: Q0) We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
8:36 PM lodtrain RT @DavidDLaCroix: I (re-)learned that Excel is powerful, just not always in the ways that I want! Plus it’s good to get your hands on the …
8:36 PM DavidDLaCroix Howdy, @JaneBozarth! Good to see you. #lrnchat
8:36 PM AllisonAnderson A0) This week, I learned many things about myself. #lrnchat
8:36 PM DaveHallmon @lodtrain saving your link for later🙂 #LRNchat
8:36 PM TriciaRansom Q0) Continued to be reminded that a key mission is for us to continue to educate others on how to educate others #lrnchat
8:36 PM 2be2learn Learned to redesign mental prep away from speaker to focus on attendee experience, prepping Content Leaders, no speaker allowed #lrnchat
8:37 PM davidbell02 Q0) I learned about accounting today including Income Statement, Balance Sheet, Cash Flow…
#lrnchat
8:37 PM JaneBozarth @TriciaRansom to which I told him: “Run, Jimmy. Run like the wind.” #lrnchat
8:37 PM brunowinck Q0) Learned : Content Strategy + Use of open source comes at a price > 0 #lrnchat
8:37 PM JaneBozarth @twubs is failing me tonight. What are y’all using for #lrnchat ?
8:37 PM TriciaRansom Spoilsport…hows he gonna learn bout foosball? RT @JaneBozarth @TriciaRansom to which I told him: “Run, Jimmy. Run like the wind.” #lrnchat
8:37 PM Elham_ab #lrnchat hi. Elham an ID, proj manager from Singapore. Am trying my best to do multi-tasking while sitting in a meeting at the moment
8:37 PM soozietwits #lrnchat Q0 – starting to see how CoP-Action Research-Critical Ped can work together to make adult learning more focused
8:37 PM eLearninCyclops @JaneBozarth – http://t.co/1AVmorQGah #lrnchat
8:37 PM DavidDLaCroix @JaneBozarth Tweetdeck on the laptop here. So far, so good. #lrnchat
8:38 PM DaveHallmon @TriciaRansom I am going to quote you. I love that. #LRNchat
8:38 PM TriciaRansom Using tweetchat, but really slow #lrnchat
8:38 PM AllisonAnderson @JaneBozarth @twubs I’m on the “new&improved” @tweetchat. Sometimes simple is good. #lrnchat
8:38 PM write2tg @shalineemattoo Good to see you here! #lrnchat
8:38 PM shalineemattoo @DaveHallmon lol #lrnchat
8:38 PM Quinnovator RT @DavidDLaCroix: @JaneBozarth Tweetdeck on the laptop here. So far, so good. #lrnchat < working for me, too
8:38 PM brunowinck @JaneBozarth, I’m using @kneaver now, twubs just do it anymore + no transcript #lrnchat
8:38 PM DavidDLaCroix @eLearninCyclops Tweetchat lives? Good for them! @JaneBozarth #lrnchat
8:38 PM DaveHallmon @DavidDLaCroix @JaneBozarth It’s the only way to #Tweet🙂 @Tweetdeck #LRNchat
8:39 PM TriciaRansom I thought Tweetdeck went away? #lrnchat
8:39 PM eLearninCyclops RT @DavidDLaCroix @eLearninCyclops Tweetchat lives? Good for them! @JaneBozarth #lrnchat | It does the trick
8:39 PM shalineemattoo @write2tg it is great and very impressive.. How have you been? #lrnchat
8:39 PM Quinnovator RT @DaveHallmon: @DavidDLaCroix @JaneBozarth It’s the only way to #Tweet🙂 @Tweetdeck #LRNchat < ‘cept killing iPhone/Pad version (grr)
8:39 PM soozietwits #lrnchat – hootsuite & laptop for me
8:39 PM lrnchat Q1 A study shows teen drivers start cautiously but grow careless with time. What happens to learning as we grow more confident? #lrnchat
8:40 PM kelly_smith01 Humble Inquiry – Ed Schein http://t.co/IjGLIT0spC #lrnchat
8:40 PM DavidDLaCroix RT @lrnchat: Q1 A study shows teen drivers start cautiously but grow careless with time. What happens to learning as we grow more confident…
8:40 PM RioPDX Hi! This is Rio from Portland, OR. Learning Strategist/manager #lrnchat
8:40 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q1 A study shows teen drivers start cautiously but grow careless with time. What happens to learning as we grow more confident…
8:40 PM write2tg MT @lrnchat Q1 What happens to learning as we grow more confident? #lrnchat
8:40 PM davidbell02 Q1 A study shows teen drivers start cautiously but grow careless with time. What happens to learning as we grow more confident? #lrnchat
8:40 PM soozietwits Q1 A study shows teen drivers start cautiously but grow careless with time. What happens to learning as we grow more confident? #lrnchat
8:40 PM heikan2003 @janebozarth Hootsuite #lrnchat
8:40 PM shalineemattoo A0) this week I learned about some change management models #lrnchat
8:40 PM JaneBozarth !! Tweetchat lives!! I didn’t know. Thanks –#lrnchat
8:40 PM RioPDX Q1 A study shows teen drivers start cautiously but grow careless with time. What happens to learning as we grow more confident? #lrnchat
8:41 PM bschlenker “@shalineemattoo: Just curious are you all logged in from phones right now? #lrnchat” <Guilty
8:41 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lrnchat Q1 study shows teen drivers start cautiously but grow careless with time. What happens 2 learning as we grow confident? #lrnchat
8:41 PM lodtrain Q1) As we grow more confident, maybe we forget the basics – maybe during train needs assess – and can be key to good course #lrnchat
8:41 PM kelly_smith01 Q1) Lay not see gaps in performance may not recognize 100% performance #lrnchat
8:41 PM TriciaRansom RT @lrnchat Q1 Study shows teen drivers start cautiously-grow careless w/ time. What happens to learning as we grow more confident #lrnchat
8:41 PM AllisonAnderson A1) Seems like a risk of misplaced confidence, too little evidence of competence before we put it on autopilot. #lrnchat
8:41 PM soozietwits #lrnchat Q1 – I believe it is how we absorb the new knowledge/skills into our experience and community
8:41 PM shalineemattoo @brunowinck more insights? #lrnchat
8:41 PM brunowinck Q1) How does careles driving translates to learning, does it hurt to learn to fast🙂 #lrnchat
8:41 PM Quinnovator a1) we get cocky😉 #lrnchat
8:41 PM DaveHallmon @lrnchat A1) We start automating too much on our longterm memory without paying attention to what we are retrieving Not always good #LRNchat
8:41 PM brunowinck @shalineemattoon insights on ? #lrnchat
8:42 PM theASIDEblog As we growing confident in learning, we question what we learn. #lrnchat
8:42 PM LearnerAdvocate Q1) Fact from AutoNation – their new sales folks do better than exp’d ones for the first few months. Why? Recent learning! #lrnchat
8:42 PM 2be2learn a1 we become comfortable and overconfident, we then revert to multitasking #lrnchat
8:42 PM DaveHallmon RT @Quinnovator: a1) we get cocky😉 #lrnchat > HAHA
8:42 PM write2tg A1) Learning adds to our confidence. But when we feel overconfident, that’s when the downfall starts and we stop learning. #lrnchat
8:42 PM shalineemattoo RT @write2tg: MT @lrnchat Q1 What happens to learning as we grow more confident? #lrnchat
8:42 PM lodtrain RT @Quinnovator: a1) we get cocky😉 #lrnchat
8:42 PM TriciaRansom Q1) Brains focus on what’s new/different to process all info bombarding them. Tune out when we know stuff #lrnchat
8:42 PM brunowinck +1 RT @DaveHallmon: @lrnchat A1) We start automating too much on our longterm memory w/o paying attention to what we are retrieving #LRNchat
8:42 PM Quinnovator a1) we play with the boundaries #lrnchat
8:42 PM eLearninCyclops RT @Quinnovator a1) we play with the boundaries #lrnchat
8:42 PM DaveHallmon @write2tg Does this always happen? A downfall? #LRNchat
8:42 PM Elham_ab #lrnchat I learned working in cubicles affect our brain focus and it brings down our efficiency. Blessed to have my own room
8:43 PM bschlenker Q0) today I (re)learned that non-training people don’t have a clue what we do. #lrnchat
8:43 PM shalineemattoo @RioPDX hello Rio #lrnchat
8:43 PM AllisonAnderson A1) We know we learn thru failure, so we speed up that process. #lrnchat
8:43 PM lodtrain Q1) Like driving a while, but then going autopilot driving to work, instead of paying attn to small things, dets lost #lrnchat
8:43 PM Quinnovator a1) we compile it away from conscious access #lrnchat
8:43 PM write2tg A1) Perhaps we get into an ‘auto-pilot’ mode and don’t focus as much as we should #lrnchat
8:43 PM brunowinck Q1) The one risk I see in too much learning is burnout #lrnchat
8:43 PM JaneBozarth q1 we go on autopilot. #lrnchat
8:43 PM Quinnovator RT @AllisonAnderson: A1) We know we learn thru failure, so we speed up that process. #lrnchat <😀
8:43 PM RioPDX A0) I would first answer with Is it really carelessness or is it overconfidence? #lrnchat
8:43 PM heikan2003 A1) as we get more confident we take shortcuts, don’t always follow process #lrnchat
8:43 PM Quinnovator RT @JaneBozarth: q1 we go on autopilot. #lrnchat
8:43 PM davidbell02 Q1) We initially focus on basic steps and then we discover the concept of peripheral vision. It scary after that. #lrnchat
8:43 PM AllisonAnderson RT @bschlenker Q0) today I (re)learned that non-training people don’t have a clue what we do. #lrnchat >> So it’s still our little secret?
8:43 PM TriciaRansom Q1) We turn our attention to the new things we’re learning. My brain only has so much room #lrnchat
8:43 PM LearnerAdvocate Q1) We make mistakes without consequences, which then form bad habits #lrnchat
8:43 PM theASIDEblog Confident learners need to keep themselves in check. #lrnchat
8:44 PM DaveHallmon @brunowinck What if we were engaged? We are all here tonight right? #LRNchat
8:44 PM jshamsy Hi #lrnchat – ers…Jennifer from Atlanta..Sorry so late. Hope I don’t get “found out” that I didn’t do pre-reading yet =(
8:44 PM AllisonAnderson RT @LearnerAdvocate Q1) We make mistakes without consequences, which then form bad habits #lrnchat
8:44 PM Dan_Jacques_LD A1) Learners gain personal experience and they will inevitably cut corners as long as long as the outcome is the same #lrnchat
8:44 PM shalineemattoo @brunowinck on your learning this week.. Have you written about it? #lrnchat
8:44 PM davidbell02 Q1) The more we learn the more we realize how little we know. #lrnchat
8:44 PM eLearninCyclops Q1) We get greedy, and cocky, and start multi-tasking #lrnchat
8:44 PM DaveHallmon @jshamsy Didn’t I chat with you yesterday? #LRNchat #IOLchat
8:45 PM heikan2003 RT @bschlenker: Q0) today I (re)learned that non-training people don’t have a clue what we do. #lrnchat I hear that!
8:45 PM DaveHallmon RT @Dan_Jacques_LD: A1) Learners gain personal experience and they will inevitably cut corners as long as long as the outcome is the same …
8:45 PM 2be2learn No one better be driving now!! During #lrnchat
8:45 PM JaneBozarth @davidbell02 really? I’ve seen that work otherwise… #lrnchat
8:45 PM DavidDLaCroix @jshamsy Graphs and diagrams, easy to absorb in a few seconds.🙂 #lrnchat
8:45 PM write2tg A1) We fail when we think gaining experience means we don’t need to continue to learn anymore. #lrnchat
8:45 PM jshamsy A1) Hazardous attitudes — we got away with it before (texting/distraction/risky behavior) and it turned out okay…invulnerability #lrnchat
8:45 PM bschlenker RT @JaneBozarth: !! Tweetchat lives!! I didn’t know. Thanks –#lrnchat
8:45 PM brunowinck +1 RT @lodtrain:Q1) Like driving a while,but then going autopilot driving to work, instead of paying attn 2 small things, dets lost #lrnchat
8:45 PM Elham_ab RT @lrnchat: Q1 A study shows teen drivers start cautiously but grow careless with time. What happens to learning as we grow more confident…
8:45 PM DaveHallmon @eLearninCyclops Is the ability to multi-task a sign of mastery? #LRNchat
8:45 PM LearningRebels Life is too short not to feel passionate about your work. Do you? #lrnchat
8:45 PM shalineemattoo A1. A confident learner or expert doesn’t have to think much before doing..but this case is peculiar to teenage driving #lrnchat
8:46 PM kelly_smith01 We get tunnel vision #lrnchat
8:46 PM DavidDLaCroix @2be2learn Somebody starting checking to see if the geotags on the tweets changes. #lrnchat
8:46 PM AllisonAnderson RT @DaveHallmon @eLearninCyclops Is the ability to multi-task a sign of mastery? #LRNchat >> Nope. It’s a myth.
8:46 PM DaveHallmon @DavidDLaCroix @2be2learn Just lost connection. Driving through a tunnel🙂 #LRNchat
8:46 PM theASIDEblog We have to be careful that we don’t get too confident and become rigid about new ideas. #lrnchat
8:46 PM RioPDX A1) The teenage behavior is similar to our behavior as adults with most of what we learn. Did we not emphasize safety enough? #lrnchat
8:46 PM bschlenker RT @LearnerAdvocate: Q1) Fact from AutoNation – their new sales folks do better than exp’d ones for the first few months. Why? Recent learn…
8:46 PM kelly_smith01 @Elham_ab Cubicles are hand cuffs for the creativity and collaboration #lrnchat
8:46 PM JaneBozarth @DaveHallmon @DavidDLaCroix @2be2learn YOU are cracking me up. #lrnchat
8:46 PM JaneBozarth RT @theASIDEblog We have to be careful that we don’t get too confident and become rigid about new ideas. #lrnchat
8:46 PM eLearninCyclops RT @DaveHallmon Is the ability to multi-task a sign of mastery? #LRNchat | No, just thinking 1 mastered it. Multitask= +errors
8:47 PM willconstantine RT @JaneBozarth: q1 we go on autopilot. #lrnchat
8:47 PM write2tg A1) We can never truly multi-task. But we think we can. That’s when we fail. #lrnchat
8:47 PM shalineemattoo A1. Can we really correlate and generalize reckless behavior and being confident after having learnt something? #lrnchat
8:47 PM lotus_yon A1 We have to be careful of our biases & remember there is always more to learn & that things constantly change #lrnchat
8:47 PM DavidDLaCroix @JaneBozarth Laugh through your feet, it’s easier to type that way. #lrnchat @DaveHallmon @2be2learn
8:47 PM Elham_ab “@davidbell02: Q1) The more we learn the more we realize how little we know. #lrnchat” > True!
8:47 PM jshamsy @DaveHallmon I made all three this week #profchat #iolchat #lrnchat Yay me! =) Nice to see ya again
8:47 PM theASIDEblog @AllisonAnderson @DaveHallmon @eLearninCyclops It’s a myth. Something always suffers. #lrnchat
8:47 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lotus_yon: A1 We have to be careful of our biases & remember there is always more to learn & that things constantly change #lrnchat
8:47 PM Quinnovator @AllisonAnderson @DaveHallmon @eLearninCyclops argue that compilation allows 1 other task to be addressed (e.g. talk and drive) #lrnchat
8:47 PM lodtrain Q1) Too much of something or something common we get bored, like same ole elearning courses #LRNchat
8:47 PM lrnchat Q2 What are some other areas we show less vigilance as time passes? #lrnchat
8:47 PM jshamsy @DavidDLaCroix good..because keeping up with the #lrnchat stream is a full time job…no multi-tasking here!
8:47 PM DaveHallmon @eLearninCyclops Always? I don’t think multi-tasking always means errors. I can tie my shoe and talk on the phone at the same time. #LRNchat
8:47 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q2 What are some other areas we show less vigilance as time passes? #lrnchat
8:47 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q2 What are some other areas we show less vigilance as time passes? #lrnchat
8:47 PM DavidDLaCroix RT @lrnchat: Q2 What are some other areas we show less vigilance as time passes? #lrnchat
8:47 PM TriciaRansom RT @lrnchat Q2 What are some other areas we show less vigilance as time passes? #lrnchat
8:47 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q2 What are some other areas we show less vigilance as time passes? #lrnchat
8:48 PM JaneBozarth RT @lrnchat Q2 What are some other areas we show less vigilance as time passes? #lrnchat
8:48 PM davidbell02 RT @lrnchat Q2 What are some other areas we show less vigilance as time passes? #lrnchat
8:48 PM TriciaRansom Q2) Powerpoint clip art #lrnchat
8:48 PM shalineemattoo RT @write2tg: A1) We fail when we think gaining experience means we don’t need to continue to learn anymore. #lrnchat
8:48 PM eLearninCyclops RT @davidbell02 RT @lrnchat Q2 What are some other areas we show less vigilance as time passes? #lrnchat
8:48 PM DavidDLaCroix @lrnchat A2) The child that comes after the first one. #lrnchat
8:48 PM eLearninCyclops Q2) Proof reading #lrnchat
8:49 PM JaneBozarth q2 I admit to catching myself on autopilot for certain job tasks. Hear the horses, can miss the zebras. #lrnchat
8:49 PM write2tg A2) As reviewers/quality editors we start out more cautiously. But as time passes errors tend to creep in. #lrnchat
8:49 PM JaneBozarth RT @eLearninCyclops Q2) Proofreading #lrnchat
8:49 PM TriciaRansom Q2) How we treat other people and awareness of how we present ourselves to the world #lrnchat
8:49 PM Quinnovator a2) things with little: variation, consequence, intrinsic interest #lrnchat
8:49 PM eLearninCyclops RT @DavidDLaCroix @lrnchat A2) The child that comes after the first one. #lrnchat | True – I’m 3rd child🙂
8:49 PM 2be2learn We should teach by example – no tweeting in motion @JaneBozarth @DaveHallmon @DavidDLaCroix #lrnchat Ha Ha
8:49 PM write2tg RT @Quinnovator a2) things with little: variation, consequence, intrinsic interest #lrnchat
8:49 PM AllisonAnderson A2) b/c he is front and center right now, I’ll say dog training. Or my training on dog management. Def less vigilant. #lrnchat
8:49 PM lotus_yon RT @eLearninCyclops Q2) Proof reading #lrnchat
8:49 PM lodtrain Q2) Less vigilant on techniques we use, so devlearn, mlearn and blogs etc can help us get back on the lrning track #LRNchat
8:49 PM kelly_smith01 Q2)May not accept work environment/work force changes #lrnchat
8:49 PM soozietwits #lrnchat Q1 – as we integrate new learning into our worldview, we see how it fits into our past experience and this can taint the new
8:49 PM DaveHallmon @TriciaRansom It’s getting better with @Microsoft #PowerPoint2013🙂 #LRNchat
8:49 PM brunowinck Q2) Lak of vigilance typically reflects in less quality, tracability, documenting work being done, autopilot mode #lrnchat
8:49 PM jshamsy A2) Seeking out information…we know what we can get by with .. the cognitive miser approach #lrnchat
8:50 PM lrnchat Prereading for tonight: “Teen drivers grow more careless with time” : http://t.co/Kj3Z1eRaxD #lrnchat
8:50 PM RioPDX RT @lrnchat: Q2 What are some other areas we show less vigilance as time passes? #lrnchat
8:50 PM soozietwits RT @lrnchat: Q2 What are some other areas we show less vigilance as time passes? #lrnchat
8:50 PM write2tg A2) I think its the monotony of the task and our disinterest in the activity that makes it less vigilant over time #lrnchat
8:50 PM TriciaRansom Q2) Plot lines of favorite tv shows…but we then focus on the details #lrnchat
8:50 PM Elham_ab RT @lrnchat: Q2 What are some other areas we show less vigilance as time passes? #lrnchat
8:50 PM DaveHallmon @jshamsy and relying too much on @Google #LRNchat
8:50 PM davidbell02 Q2) I enjoy hearing myself talk so much that I forget the skill I should be practicing is listening. #lrnchat
8:50 PM TriciaRansom RT @davidbell02 Q2) I enjoy hearing myself talk so much that I forget the skill I should be practicing is listening. #lrnchat
8:50 PM 2be2learn Q2 focused conversation to our family and children #lrnchat Eye Contact people!
8:50 PM RioPDX RT @davidbell02 Q2) I enjoy hearing myself talk so much that I forget the skill I should be practicing is listening. #lrnchat
8:50 PM shalineemattoo @eLearninCyclops I agree proofreading…but can we say some people are just prone to attention to detail and some are not? #lrnchat
8:51 PM TriciaRansom Q2) Maintaining relationships #lrnchat
8:51 PM AllisonAnderson A) Less vigilant about remembering facts. Less vigilant about spelling. #lrnchat
8:51 PM JaneBozarth RT @AllisonAnderson A) Less vigilant about remembering facts. Less vigilant about spelling. #lrnchat
8:51 PM Dan_Jacques_LD A2) Dating and relationships, on those first few dates your in your best behavior as you settle down things begin to slide #lrnchat
8:51 PM eLearninCyclops Q2) Creating thorough design plans – Every once in a while I have to stop and be more vigilant with them #lrnchat
8:51 PM soozietwits #lrnchat Q2 – everywhere. Putting knowledge into action, we always need to reflect and adjust.
8:51 PM TriciaRansom RT @eLearninCyclops Q2) Creating thorough design plans – Every once in a while I have to stop and be more vigilant with them #lrnchat
8:51 PM DavidDLaCroix A2) Vigilance, perceived margin for error are intertwined. Unfortunately, h. sapiens = bad @ margins! #lrnchat HT everything @DanielKahneman
8:51 PM lotus_yon Was just going to say that one! We often lose sight of how important it is to keep RT @TriciaRansom Q2) Maintaining relationships #lrnchat
8:51 PM davidbell02 RT @TriciaRansom Q2) Maintaining relationships #lrnchat
8:51 PM jshamsy @DaveHallmon and Wikipedia!!! #lrnchat
8:51 PM 2be2learn @DaveHallmon @TriciaRansom oh don’t go all PowerPoint on me #lrnchat
8:51 PM kelly_smith01 RT @davidbell02: RT @TriciaRansom Q2) Maintaining relationships #lrnchat
8:52 PM TriciaRansom The importance of planning, planning, planning and flexibility #lrnchat
8:52 PM Elham_ab 2. Things that are consistent with little change involved #lrnchat
8:52 PM AllisonAnderson A2) less vigilant about documenting what’s in my head #lrnchat
8:52 PM write2tg Because we rely on other tools more than ourselves? MT @AllisonAnderson A) Less vigilant about remembering facts/spelling #lrnchat
8:52 PM DavidDLaCroix @eLearninCyclops We’re on our second, and the first one made it this far, so it’s like there’s precedent for dialing down some. #lrnchat
8:52 PM JaneBozarth OH yes RT @AllisonAnderson A2) less vigilant about documenting what’s in my head #lrnchat
8:52 PM TriciaRansom @2be2learn @DaveHallmon Oh, I’m going all kinds of PowerPoint on you….bean art and flying bullet points… #lrnchat
8:52 PM shalineemattoo A2: resistance to change… Autopilot also makes us think there is only one way to do it…our way #lrnchat
8:52 PM DaveHallmon @TriciaRansom Why all the planning? LOL #LRNchat
8:52 PM heikan2003 Q2) we may take for granted that we have a certain role #lrnchat
8:52 PM DavidDLaCroix + all the 1s RT @JaneBozarth: OH yes RT @AllisonAnderson A2) less vigilant about documenting what’s in my head #lrnchat
8:52 PM TriciaRansom @DaveHallmon I have no idea, cause its just going to change anyway #lrnchat
8:53 PM write2tg RT @shalineemattoo A2: resistance to change… Autopilot also makes us think there is only one way to do it…our way #lrnchat
8:53 PM JaneBozarth RT @heikan2003 Q2) we may take for granted that we have a certain role #lrnchat
8:53 PM JaneBozarth @heikan2003 Hi Heidi good to see you #lrnchat
8:53 PM jshamsy @shalineemattoo @elearnincyclops Here Here…attention to detail isn’t a bad thing..but some definitely don’t have it =( #lrnchat
8:53 PM Elham_ab RT @soozietwits: #lrnchat Q2 – everywhere. Putting knowledge into action, we always need to reflect and adjust.
8:53 PM brunowinck Q2) less vigilance -> Shorter attention span, distraction prone #lrnchat
8:53 PM shalineemattoo @write2tg I so agree… Seen it done it… Now don’t want to keep doing it..#lrnchat
8:53 PM DaveHallmon @shalineemattoo But that is what the training documentation says to do! #LRNchat
8:53 PM kelly_smith01 Q2) Not willing to change or adjust #lrnchat
8:54 PM TriciaRansom Q2) Remaining true to our core beliefs. “Compromising” to get by #lrnchat
8:54 PM brunowinck same RT @JaneBozarth: OH yes RT @AllisonAnderson A2) less vigilant about documenting what’s in my head #lrnchat
8:54 PM eLearninCyclops RT @jshamsy @shalineemattoo Find me a good proofreader and a good mechanic – that’s all i need🙂 #lrnchat
8:54 PM heikan2003 @JaneBozarth thanks — need it today. Restructuring going on at work #lrnchat
8:54 PM LearnerAdvocate A2) I am less vigilant about following the “rules” of ID. Instead I now do what I know is best for the learners. #itsagoodthing #lrnchat
8:54 PM TriciaRansom Does anyone else find that they are less vigilant about themselves? #lrnchat
8:55 PM DaveHallmon RT @LearnerAdvocate: A2) I am less vigilant about following the “rules” of ID. Instead I now do what I know is best for the learners. #itsa…
8:55 PM davidbell02 RT @brunowinck same RT @JaneBozarth: OH yes RT @AllisonAnderson A2) less vigilant about documenting what’s in my head #lrnchat
8:55 PM JaneBozarth @TriciaRansom yes. #lrnchat
8:55 PM 2be2learn @DaveHallmon @shalineemattoo you read your own training docs? They must be good! #lrnchat
8:55 PM soozietwits #lrnchat Q2 – it is also about importance, what is important to the situation might be ideas, not spelling – therefore spelling loses out
8:55 PM brunowinck Some letting go is good also @TriciaRansom: Does anyone else find that they are less vigilant about themselves? #lrnchat
8:55 PM DavidDLaCroix @TriciaRansom In any particular way? #lrnchat
8:55 PM heikan2003 RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Not willing to change or adjust #lrnchat Change is hard
8:55 PM davidbell02 RT @JaneBozarth @TriciaRansom yes. #lrnchat
8:55 PM Quinnovator RT @2be2learn: @DaveHallmon @shalineemattoo you read your own training docs? They must be good! #lrnchat < ain’t it the truth!
8:56 PM lodtrain RT @soozietwits: #lrnchat Q2 – it is also about importance, what is important to the situation might be ideas, not spelling – therefore spe…
8:56 PM JaneBozarth @heikan2003 keep breathing #lrnchat
8:56 PM shalineemattoo @write2tg @AllisonAnderson but is that a case of autopilot? Confident learning? Or outsourcing LOL #lrnchat
8:56 PM DaveHallmon @2be2learn @shalineemattoo Yuup. Very interactive, engaging, and the learner knows what’s in it for them🙂 #LRNchat
8:56 PM soozietwits RT @TriciaRansom: Does anyone else find that they are less vigilant about themselves? #lrnchat – my 2014 incl. taking care of my body!
8:56 PM TriciaRansom @DavidDLaCroix Just in general. Some people its diet, sleep, health. Basically inner zen #lrnchat
8:56 PM eLearninCyclops Q2) I’m less vigilant about run those stinky LMS reports. #lrnchat
8:56 PM shalineemattoo @JaneBozarth @AllisonAnderson agree more and more things become tacit #lrnchat
8:56 PM TriciaRansom RT @eLearninCyclops Q2) I’m less vigilant about run those stinky LMS reports. #lrnchat
8:57 PM manage_lead A2) we become less vigilant in realizing that other people are also becoming less vigil & get annoyed at them #lrnchat
8:57 PM heikan2003 @soozietwits we are all doomed by auto type. #lrnchat🙂
8:57 PM write2tg A2) Reduced vigilance: when we are skimming over everything – content, context and capacity #lrnchat
8:57 PM lrnchat Q3 As we become more expert our knowledge moves beneath a conscious level. Upsides/downsides to this? #lrnchat
8:57 PM DavidDLaCroix One can be vigilant, but if you’re not attending to the right things, you might just crash the plane, careful as you are. #lrnchat
8:57 PM TriciaRansom RT @lrnchat Q3 As we become more expert our knowledge moves beneath a conscious level. Upsides/downsides to this? #lrnchat
8:57 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lrnchat Q3 As we become more expert our knowledge moves beneath a conscious level. Upsides/downsides to this? #lrnchat
8:57 PM DaveHallmon @manage_lead You must be very intimidating🙂 #LRNchat
8:57 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q3 As we become more expert our knowledge moves beneath a conscious level. Upsides/downsides to this? #lrnchat
8:57 PM Quinnovator a2) start reacting on stereotypes #lrnchat
8:57 PM DavidDLaCroix RT @lrnchat: Q3 As we become more expert our knowledge moves beneath a conscious level. Upsides/downsides to this? #lrnchat
8:57 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q3 As we become more expert our knowledge moves beneath a conscious level. Upsides/downsides to this? #lrnchat
8:57 PM davidbell02 RT @lrnchat Q3 As we become more expert our knowledge moves beneath a conscious level. Upsides/downsides to this? #lrnchat
8:57 PM Elham_ab RT @lrnchat: Q3 As we become more expert our knowledge moves beneath a conscious level. Upsides/downsides to this? #lrnchat
8:57 PM brunowinck Q2) Sometime also easier to learn when less vigilant, less barriers to memorizing #lrnchat
8:57 PM kelly_smith01 RT @Quinnovator: a2) start reacting on stereotypes #lrnchat
8:58 PM soozietwits RT @lrnchat: Q3 As we become more expert our knowledge moves beneath a conscious level. Upsides/downsides to this? #lrnchat
8:58 PM 2be2learn @eLearninCyclops but do you still run the TPS reports? Movie ref #lrnchat
8:58 PM TriciaRansom Q3) downside: forgetting the learner’s experience, pain, frustration. You know, SME Syndrome #lrnchat
8:58 PM kelly_smith01 Not tracking changes in practice through tools like #lrnchat
8:58 PM Quinnovator a3) allows more complex behaviors, makes it difficult to share what we do (experts can’t tell us 70% of what they do) #lrnchat
8:58 PM jshamsy @TriciaRansom Absolutely..I always put off “me” to the last priority..when it should really be the first! =( #lrnchat
8:58 PM JaneBozarth Jeez you #lrnchat people are a chatty bunch.
8:58 PM DaveHallmon @lrnchat A3) Should we only define a downside as a mistake? #LRNchat
8:58 PM heikan2003 @eLearninCyclops that made me laugh! I hate running reports. #lrnchat
8:58 PM shalineemattoo RT @LearnerAdvocate: A2) I am less vigilant about following the “rules” of ID. Instead I now do what I know is best for the learners. #itsa…
8:58 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q3 As we become more expert our knowledge moves beneath a conscious level. Upsides/downsides to this? #lrnchat
8:58 PM lodtrain Q3) Upsides we become expert and can coach/mentor, downsides we are not “present” aware of new techniques.. #lrnchat
8:58 PM brunowinck true RT @write2tg: A2) Reduced vigilance: when we are skimming over everything – content, context and capacity #lrnchat
8:58 PM KCASTD RT @lrnchat: Q3 As we become more expert our knowledge moves beneath a conscious level. Upsides/downsides to this? #lrnchat
8:58 PM eLearninCyclops RT @2be2learn @eLearninCyclops but do you still run the TPS reports? Movie ref #lrnchat | I use them to wrap fish
8:58 PM heikan2003 RT @lrnchat: Q3 As we become more expert our knowledge moves beneath a conscious level. Upsides/downsides to this? #lrnchat
8:58 PM TriciaRansom Q3) Upside: More room in the brain to learn more stuff! #lrnchat
8:58 PM Quinnovator a3) lowers cognitive load, decreasing problem-solving fatigues #lrnchat
8:59 PM soozietwits #lrnchat Q3 – Mastery does make things drop into implicit or tacit – our goal as Educators is to teach people how to tap those levels
8:59 PM DavidDLaCroix A4) Professional downside: further submerged = inability to articulate it. No raise for you! Good luck on that job interview! #lrnchat
8:59 PM davidbell02 Q3) Downside is that I search for something else to learn. Gaining expertise requires discipline and passion about the topic. #lrnchat
8:59 PM jshamsy @JaneBozarth Having a hard time keeping up tonight!!! #lrnchat
8:59 PM DaveHallmon @Quinnovator A3) I don’t see a downside to this except for when it comes to training. #LRNchat
8:59 PM kelly_smith01 Q3) Downside –> Thinking, calling or labeling ourself as an expert #lrnchat
8:59 PM JaneBozarth @jshamsy that means it’s a good #lrnchat
8:59 PM eLearninCyclops RT @kelly_smith01 Q3) Downside –> Thinking, calling or labeling ourself as an expert #lrnchat
8:59 PM TriciaRansom Q3) Downside: arrogance #lrnchat
8:59 PM write2tg A3) Downside: It’s difficult to interview experts and gather ‘content’. They don’t know why they can do what they can do! #lrnchat
9:00 PM 2be2learn A3 we do not readily share our deep tacit knowledge #lrnchat How can we capture and share “expertise”?
9:00 PM shalineemattoo @LearnerAdvocate yes.. Now it’s in our blood. No Gagne bloom need to be summoned and yes it is a Good thing. #lrnchat
9:00 PM lotus_yon A3 egos and biases #lrnchat
9:00 PM AllisonAnderson RT @shalineemattoo @write2tg but is that a case of autopilot? Confident learning? Or outsourcing LOL #lrnchat >> We do! Transactive Memory!
9:00 PM DavidDLaCroix Clearly, I’m slightly less than vigilant about what Q we’re on…. #lrnchat
9:00 PM jshamsy A3) Upside is processing is quicker..have a framework to stick “new factoids” into..Downside is less metacognition #lrnchat
9:00 PM brunowinck Q3) Downsize : harder to share or teach skills becoming inconscious #lrnchat
9:00 PM lotus_yon MT @write2tg It’s difficult to interview experts and gather ‘content’. They don’t know why they can do what they can do! #lrnchat
9:00 PM Quinnovator @DaveHallmon makes it harder to reflect/change (but not just training: mentoring/coaching, sharing) #lrnchat
9:00 PM eLearninCyclops @soozietwits Thx for the flair #lrnchat
9:00 PM lodtrain RT @TriciaRansom: Q3) Downside: arrogance #lrnchat
9:00 PM DavidDLaCroix SMEEEEE! RT @TriciaRansom: Q3) downside: forgetting the learner’s experience, pain, frustration. You know, SME Syndrome #lrnchat
9:00 PM kelly_smith01 Q3) Thinking in terms of generational defferences #lrnchat
9:00 PM heikan2003 Q3) sometimes our “expert” autopilot misses the key detail that says “this is different.” #lrnchat
9:00 PM eLearninCyclops RT @brunowinck Q3) Downsize : harder to share or teach skills becoming inconscious #lrnchat
9:01 PM Elham_ab @kelly_smith01 that’s so very right. #lrnchat
9:01 PM AllisonAnderson A3) Downside: It’s harder to UNlearn when we need to let go/replace. #lrnchat
9:01 PM DaveHallmon @write2tg That is just our problem. It doesnt effect what they do unless they need someone to cover them when they are on vacation #LRNchat
9:01 PM Quinnovator a3) upside: more efficiency, downside: less transparency #lrnchat
9:01 PM DavidDLaCroix And difference in general, yes. RT @kelly_smith01: Q3) Thinking in terms of generational differences #lrnchat
9:01 PM write2tg A3) Upside: Experts can make quick decisions and help us see patterns #lrnchat
9:01 PM davidbell02 Q3) Downside is that we may close our mind to the ideas that others have to offer. #lrnchat
9:01 PM shalineemattoo @manage_lead whoa that’s a real good one. So we need to empathize. But then who will fix the bugs LOL. #lrnchat
9:01 PM DaveHallmon RT @Quinnovator: a3) upside: more efficiency, downside: less transparency #lrnchat
9:01 PM eLearninCyclops Q3) Downside – Can make it look ez and quick to others, which it probably isn’t. #lrnchat
9:02 PM TriciaRansom Innternalized knowledge can make it difficult when you interact w/non-experts.. Think talking to a mechanic or tax PnD #lrnchat
9:02 PM kelly_smith01 @lodtrain My concern is thinking to pushing to strong on the “espert” label #lrnchat
9:02 PM DaveHallmon RT @write2tg: A3) Upside: Experts can make quick decisions and help us see patterns #lrnchat
9:02 PM soozietwits @Quinnovator #lrnchat – which is where we need mentoring-coaching and other methods of training
9:02 PM lodtrain RT @Quinnovator: a3) upside: more efficiency, downside: less transparency #lrnchat
9:02 PM shalineemattoo RT @lrnchat: Q3 As we become more expert our knowledge moves beneath a conscious level. Upsides/downsides to this? #lrnchat
9:02 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lodtrain RT @Quinnovator: a3) upside: more efficiency, downside: less transparency #lrnchat
9:02 PM lodtrain RT @AllisonAnderson: A3) Downside: It’s harder to UNlearn when we need to let go/replace. #lrnchat
9:02 PM kelly_smith01 RT @eLearninCyclops: RT @lodtrain RT @Quinnovator: a3) upside: more efficiency, downside: less transparency #lrnchat
9:02 PM 2be2learn @lotus_yon You admit egos and biases? Pass it on. #training #leadership #lrnchat
9:02 PM write2tg A3) Downside: Experts have ‘their’ way which is not visible to others. They also don’t always like any other way! #lrnchat
9:02 PM write2tg RT @kelly_smith01 RT @eLearninCyclops: RT @lodtrain RT @Quinnovator: a3) upside: more efficiency, downside: less transparency #lrnchat
9:02 PM RioPDX A3) Upside, speed of knowledge application is increased to a phenomenal level. #lrnchat
9:02 PM Quinnovator RT @kelly_smith01: Q3) Thinking in terms of generational differences #lrnchat < ? no evidence of meaningful gen diffs, so don’t get this
9:03 PM LearnerAdvocate A3) Can’t teach an old dog new tricks. Old habits die hard.There is meaning behind these sayings. We must break through to change #lrnchat
9:03 PM davidbell02 Q3) The upside is that we can be a resource to others. #lrnchat
9:03 PM DavidDLaCroix A3: Not seeing a lot of “upside” ideas, so I’ll throw one out: Just getting it done already! #lrnchat
9:03 PM DaveHallmon @RioPDX A3) Then just maybe there will be some room for some #Innovation #LRNchat
9:03 PM soozietwits @kelly_smith01 #lrnchat – I believe everyone is expert at something – therefore we do not need a single source of knowledge, but a community
9:03 PM manage_lead @shalineemattoo fix the bugs with empathy? #lrnchat
9:03 PM Elham_ab “@heikan2003: Q3) sometimes our “expert” autopilot misses the key detail that says “this is different.” #lrnchat” that’s right.
9:03 PM TriciaRansom Q3) Upside: Once you’re aware of it, It’s a fascinating process to try to explore your own knowledge/brain #lrnchat
9:04 PM brunowinck RT @jshamsy: A3) Upside is processing is quicker..have a framework to stick “new factoids” into..Downside is less metacognition #lrnchat
9:04 PM Quinnovator @soozietwits but if compiled away, not accessible for mentoring/coaching! Needs scaffolding… #lrnchat
9:04 PM kelly_smith01 RT @soozietwits: @kelly_smith01 #lrnchat – I believe everyone is expert at something – therefore we do not need a single source of knowledg…
9:04 PM TriciaRansom Q3) You see/do what you’ve always seen/done. #lrnchat
9:04 PM bschlenker RT @davidbell02: Q3) Downside is that I search for something else to learn. Gaining expertise requires discipline and passion about the to…
9:04 PM davidbell02 Q3) The upside is that someone may pay you for your knowledge. #lrnchat
9:05 PM bschlenker RT @write2tg: A3) Downside: It’s difficult to interview experts and gather ‘content’. They don’t know why they can do what they can do! #lr…
9:05 PM soozietwits RT @davidbell02: Q3) The upside is that we can be a resource to others. #lrnchat — agreed, it doesn’t have to be explicit to be shared
9:05 PM Dan_Jacques_LD A3) Upside sharing that knowledge, Downside keeping it to yourself #lrnchat
9:05 PM eLearninCyclops RT @davidbell02 Q3) The upside is that someone may pay you for your knowledge. #lrnchat | How much?
9:05 PM kelly_smith01 RT @Dan_Jacques_LD: A3) Upside sharing that knowledge, Downside keeping it to yourself #lrnchat
9:05 PM brunowinck RT @TriciaRansom: Q3) Upside: Once you’re aware of it, It’s a fascinating process to try to explore your own knowledge/brain #lrnchat
9:05 PM RioPDX A3) Downside, the quality of the knowledge application depends on the quality of the knowledge acquired. If bad then…😦
#lrnchat
9:05 PM DaveHallmon @davidbell02 But as @Quinnovator told us. We can only give them 70% of it😦 #LRNchat
9:05 PM shalineemattoo A3. Upside: efficiency, accuracy, expertise, intuitive problem solving, ease, comfort #lrnchat
9:05 PM audioswhite Q2 (I think) developed safety video for high power lineman – most electrocuted had 10 years + exp. autopilot = safety shortcuts #lrnchat
9:05 PM guywwallace RT @Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: Q3) Thinking in terms of generational differences #lrnchat < ? no evidence of meaningful gen diffs, so …
9:05 PM write2tg A3)Downside: Training doesn’t come naturally to experts. Many trg initiatives fail because orgns want experts to train. #lrnchat
9:05 PM lrnchat Q4 How does/can the work environment pull us away from doing the things the way we learned them? #lrnchat
9:06 PM davidbell02 RT @lrnchat Q4 How does/can the work environment pull us away from doing the things the way we learned them? #lrnchat
9:06 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lrnchat Q4 How does/can the work environment pull us away from doing the things the way we learned them? #lrnchat
9:06 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q4 How does/can the work environment pull us away from doing the things the way we learned them? #lrnchat
9:06 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q4 How does/can the work environment pull us away from doing the things the way we learned them? #lrnchat
9:06 PM soozietwits RT @eLearninCyclops: RT @davidbell02 Q3) The upside is that someone may pay you for your knowledge. #lrnchat | How much? – I want some too!
9:06 PM DavidDLaCroix Helps if they hear abt it from an earlier gig, when less submerged MT @davidbell02: Q3) upside: someone may pay for your knowledge. #lrnchat
9:06 PM kelly_smith01 Downside or challenge – Knowing when you have to learn or re-learn #lrnchat
9:06 PM lodtrain MT “@soozietwits: everyone is expert @ something – we dont need a single source o knowledge, but a community” yes like #lrnchat
9:06 PM TriciaRansom I am guru of World Domination. send $ to learn my secrets RT @davidbell02 Q3) someone may pay you for your knowledge #lrnchat
9:06 PM DavidDLaCroix RT @lrnchat: Q4 How does/can the work environment pull us away from doing the things the way we learned them? #lrnchat
9:06 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q4 How does/can the work environment pull us away from doing the things the way we learned them? #lrnchat
9:06 PM bschlenker A3) we should all be practicing “beginners mind” and learn to draw that out of our SMEs. #lrnchat
9:06 PM Quinnovator a4) if we didn’t learn in the work context, work context changes the game #lrnchat
9:06 PM guywwallace RT @Quinnovator: a3) allows more complex behaviors, makes it difficult to share what we do (experts can’t tell us 70% of what they do) #lrn…
9:06 PM TriciaRansom Q4) Process vs Systems #lrnchat
9:06 PM Quinnovator RT @bschlenker: A3) we should all be practicing “beginners mind” and learn to draw that out of our SMEs. #lrnchat
9:06 PM bschlenker RT @soozietwits: @kelly_smith01 #lrnchat – I believe everyone is expert at something – therefore we do not need a single source of knowledg…
9:07 PM AllisonAnderson RT @bschlenker A3) we should all be practicing “beginners mind” and learn to draw that out of our SMEs. #lrnchat —- oooh, like!
9:07 PM Elham_ab RT @lrnchat: Q4 How does/can the work environment pull us away from doing the things the way we learned them? #lrnchat
9:07 PM write2tg A4) The way we learned to do things is not the ONLY way to do it. The real work environment teaches us that! #lrnchat
9:07 PM DaveHallmon @lrnchat A4) We should always learn them in the same environment that we will be applying them. #inaperfectworld #LRNchat
9:07 PM DavidDLaCroix RT @Quinnovator: a4) if we didn’t learn in the work context, work context changes the game #lrnchat
9:07 PM eLearninCyclops Q4) There is how we learned it and how we must do it with the limited resources and time given #lrnchat
9:07 PM TriciaRansom Q4) At work, you learn “Best Practices”…that always tells me there is an EASIER and QUICKER way to do things #lrnchat
9:07 PM soozietwits @audioswhite #lrnchat – assumption that this situation has already been encountered rather then each having their own difficulties
9:08 PM lotus_yon A4 Culture & resources influence how we do things at work, which can be very different than what we learned #lrnchat
9:08 PM write2tg A4) If we didn’t learn it right the first time, our work environment will teach us and things will change #lrnchat
9:08 PM RioPDX Downside, it makes it harder to pass down knowledge to others. #lrnchat
9:08 PM jshamsy A4) Organization/Safety Culture – Operational Drift – In this case do as I do not as I say #lrnchat
9:08 PM kelly_smith01 Q4) Sometimes work envirnment changes by the time we apply the learned skills #lrnchat
9:08 PM soozietwits RT @lrnchat: Q4 How does/can the work environment pull us away from doing the things the way we learned them? #lrnchat
9:08 PM bschlenker RT @lrnchat: Q4 How does/can the work environment pull us away from doing the things the way we learned them? #lrnchat
9:08 PM shalineemattoo A3: downside: tacit info, sharing cripple ness, overconfidence, glued to comfort zone #lrnchat
9:08 PM JaneBozarth @TriciaRansom Dilbert says if everyone is doing it then “best practice” is mediocre #lrnchat
9:08 PM DaveHallmon RT @write2tg: A4) If we didn’t learn it right the first time, our work environment will teach us and things will change #lrnchat
9:08 PM DavidDLaCroix Is there an “it” btw “learn” & “in”? RT @Quinnovator: a4) if we didnt learn [it] in the work context, work context changes the game #lrnchat
9:08 PM lotus_yon RT @JaneBozarth @TriciaRansom Dilbert says if everyone is doing it then “best practice” is mediocre #lrnchat
9:08 PM kelly_smith01 RT @JaneBozarth: @TriciaRansom Dilbert says if everyone is doing it then “best practice” is mediocre #lrnchat
9:08 PM waltdesign RT @write2tg: A3) Downside: It’s difficult to interview experts and gather ‘content’. They don’t know why they can do what they can do! #lr…
9:08 PM 2be2learn A4 because “that’s the way we have always done things!” Pulls us away from how things should be done at work #lrnchat Fear #innovation
9:08 PM brunowinck +1 RT @shalineemattoo: A3: downside: tacit info, sharing cripple ness, overconfidence, glued to comfort zone #lrnchat
9:08 PM shalineemattoo “@jshamsy: A3) Upside is processing is quicker..have a framework to stick “new factoids” into..Downside is less metacognition #lrnchat”
9:08 PM Dan_Jacques_LD A4) Not allowing enough time for on the job application of what was learnt and lack of support back on the job, so it ends up lost #lrnchat
9:09 PM DavidDLaCroix @Quinnovator I mean, I like it with or without the “it.”🙂 #lrnchat
9:09 PM soozietwits #lrnchat Q4 – the skills & knowledge must be able to be applied into the work situation – otherwise it is of little use.
9:09 PM TriciaRansom Q4) “I know you learned XXXX in training class, but in this department, we do ABC bippity boppity boo” #lrnchat
9:09 PM RioPDX @lrnchat: Q4 How does/can the work environment pull us away from doing the things the way we learned them? #lrnchat
9:09 PM davidbell02 Q4) We may discover a better approach in the workplace than the way we originally learned. #lrnchat
9:09 PM Quinnovator a4) culture, mismatch between ideal and real, agendas, #lrnchat
9:09 PM write2tg RT @davidbell02 Q4) We may discover a better approach in the workplace than the way we originally learned. #lrnchat
9:09 PM bschlenker A4) Corporate Culture kills! #lrnchat
9:09 PM lodtrain Q4) The work environ or culture at work can chg the way we do things, say dictate vs collaborate #lrnchat
9:09 PM jshamsy A4) That is given that the rules/methods are actually a good thing..or regulation requires..if not -almost always a better way #lrnchat
9:09 PM robbartlett RT @JaneBozarth: @TriciaRansom Dilbert says if everyone is doing it then “best practice” is mediocre #lrnchat
9:09 PM heikan2003 Q4) Oh, easy one. Need for speed. #lrnchat
9:09 PM NudgeVillage RT @dpontefract: If yer teaching the topic of trust, feel free to use this free PDF of mine http://t.co/hSfGVdGGhm The Simple Act of Trusti…
9:09 PM guywwallace RT @lrnchat: Prereading for tonight: “Teen drivers grow more careless with time” : http://t.co/Kj3Z1eRaxD #lrnchat
9:09 PM lodtrain RT @davidbell02: Q4) We may discover a better approach in the workplace than the way we originally learned. #lrnchat
9:09 PM DaveHallmon @Dan_Jacques_LD That pesky PD knowledge falls inert all the time! #LRNchat
9:09 PM kelly_smith01 Current practice as modified or adjusted – thus differes from the learned practice #lrnchat
9:09 PM shalineemattoo “@AllisonAnderson: A3) Downside: It’s harder to UNlearn when we need to let go/replace. #lrnchat”
9:09 PM LearnerAdvocate A4)There is the way it’s taught in training, and then the way it’s done in real world. We need to do a better job matching that #lrnchat
9:09 PM TriciaRansom Q4) Seriously, if there isn’t alignment between what you learn and what you DO, t #lrnchat
9:10 PM eLearninCyclops Q4) “…and all other duties as assigned” #lrnchat
9:10 PM soozietwits #lrnchat Q4 – fear of change or innovation, reliance on experience and hierarchy to solve problems… these kill new ideas/procedures/etc
9:10 PM brunowinck Q4) Since environment will change it’s wise to be able to adapt one’s experience to new conditions,helps also 2 maintain vigilance #lrnchat
9:10 PM AllisonAnderson RT @bschlenker A4) Corporate Culture kills! #lrnchat >> yes, but wouldn’t it be nice if we could help solve that problem? #2late4me
9:10 PM lodtrain RT @LearnerAdvocate: A4)There is the way it’s taught in training, and then the way it’s done in real world. We need to do a better job matc…
9:10 PM jshamsy RT @JaneBozarth: @TriciaRansom Dilbert says if everyone is doing it then “best practice” is mediocre #lrnchat
9:11 PM DaveHallmon RT @soozietwits: #lrnchat Q4 – fear of change or innovation, reliance on experience and hierarchy to solve problems… these kill new ideas…
9:11 PM write2tg A4) When contexts change, everything should change. And its not a bad thing if we have to relearn. #lrnchat
9:11 PM Elham_ab 4. By demanding us to follow fixed given format of things not allowing minimal liberty. We’ll turn into robots without thinking #lrnchat
9:11 PM soozietwits #lrnchat Q4 – Lewin’s Freeze Stages – we need to unfreeze, change, refreeze
9:11 PM AllisonAnderson A4) with everyone on autopilot, we tend to share less. “We all know…” is a learning buzz-kill. #lrnchat
9:11 PM lodtrain “@eLearninCyclops: Q4) “…and all other duties as assigned” #lrnchat” giggle
9:11 PM RioPDX A4) FEAR!!!!!!!!!!! #lrnchat
9:11 PM TriciaRansom I think the gap between what you are supposed to know and what you actually is “Opportunity for improvement” #lrnchat
9:11 PM kelly_smith01 That is why learning should occur close to the palce and time of performance #lrnchat
9:11 PM bschlenker @LearnerAdvocate LOVE Subject Matter ENTHUSIASTS! I’m on the hunt for those people! #lrnchat
9:11 PM TriciaRansom RT @bschlenker @LearnerAdvocate LOVE Subject Matter ENTHUSIASTS! I’m on the hunt for those people! #lrnchat
9:12 PM write2tg +1 RT @kelly_smith01 That is why learning should occur close to the place and time of performance #lrnchat
9:12 PM lodtrain RT @kelly_smith01: That is why learning should occur close to the palce and time of performance #lrnchat
9:12 PM TriciaRansom What was the question again? #lrnchat
9:12 PM heikan2003 RT @TriciaRansom: Q4) At work, you learn “Best Practices”…that always tells me there is an EASIER and QUICKER way to do things #lrnchat
9:12 PM jshamsy A4) too much thinking — remembering way it is actually done and the way it should be done when someone is watching #memoryoverload #lrnchat
9:12 PM shalineemattoo @manage_lead nope but at least not yell at someone if they are not vigilant, when on autopilot. #lrnchat
9:12 PM lrnchat Q5 How can we be aware when formation of a habit starts to degrade performance? How do we keep improving/avoid mistakes? #lrnchat
9:12 PM DavidDLaCroix RT @lrnchat: Q5 How can we be aware when formation of a habit starts to degrade performance? How do we keep improving/avoid mistakes? #lrnc…
9:12 PM soozietwits @Elham_ab #lrnchat – totally agree – we need the training to be assimilated into the workplace in meaningful ways, owned by the workers
9:12 PM eLearninCyclops RT @lrnchat Q5 How can we be aware whn formation of a habit starts to degrade performance? How do we keep improving/avoid mistakes? #lrnchat
9:12 PM shalineemattoo RT @write2tg: A3)Downside: Training doesn’t come naturally to experts. Many trg initiatives fail because orgns want experts to train. #lrn…
9:12 PM davidbell02 Q5 How can we be aware when formation of a habit starts to degrade performance? How do we keep improving/avoid mistakes? #lrnchat
9:12 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q5 How can we be aware when formation of a habit starts to degrade performance? How do we keep improving/avoid mistakes? #lrnc…
9:12 PM TriciaRansom RT @lrnchat Q5 How can we be aware when formation of habit starts to degrade performance? How do we keep improving/avoid mistakes? #lrnchat
9:13 PM write2tg RT@lrnchat Q5 How can we be aware when formation of a habit starts to degrade performance?How do we keep improving/avoid mistakes? #lrnchat
9:13 PM TriciaRansom Q5) Be aware #lrnchat
9:13 PM AllisonAnderson Q5) Looking forward to your answers. I’m currently stumped. #lrnchat
9:13 PM DaveHallmon @lrnchat Is everyone against autopilot? Robots? If we can accomplish the objectives to a master level… what else is there? #LRNchat
9:13 PM jshamsy A5) Have to tune in..think about what you are thinking about and doing – be realistic about performance, be willing to change #lrnchat
9:13 PM soozietwits RT @lrnchat: Q5 How can we be aware when formation of a habit starts to degrade performance?How do we keep improving/avoid mistakes?#lrnchat
9:13 PM lotus_yon A5 Self-reflection, willingness to learn and ability to seek out/accept/use feedback #lrnchat
9:13 PM write2tg RT @lotus_yon A5 Self-reflection, willingness to learn and ability to seek out/accept/use feedback #lrnchat
9:13 PM Quinnovator a5) work ‘out loud’ (expecting Dr. @janebozarth to beat me to this one) #lrnchat
9:13 PM TriciaRansom Q5) Empower people to self-monitor and reflect and reward for changing #lrnchat
9:13 PM jshamsy A5) can’t always avoid mistakes – may not want to..that is where real learning takes place..but make sure you DO learn from them #lrnchat
9:14 PM shalineemattoo RT @lrnchat: Q5 How can we be aware when formation of a habit starts to degrade performance? How do we keep improving/avoid mistakes? #lrnc…
9:14 PM heikan2003 @lodtrain I would agree with that. We can learn to adapt a little better. #lrnchat
9:14 PM MaddyzDaddy A5: peer review, peer assessment, don’t work in isolation. Look for feedback and give it when asked for.
#lrnchat
9:14 PM write2tg A5) We need to be aware of ourselves and share our ‘work’/habits with others so we receive feedback #lrnchat
9:14 PM LearnerAdvocate A4)Incentives encourage shortcuts. Managers have their own agenda. Peer pressure. Real world contexts are vital for application! #lrnchat
9:14 PM soozietwits #lrnchat Q5 – if we are working in an environment that works through critical and reflective practices, we can stay away from degradation
9:14 PM lodtrain Q5) To avoid making same mistakes get good feedback, ask the tough colleagues for good advice, commetns, “reality chk” #lrnchat
9:14 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q5 How can we be aware when formation of a habit starts to degrade performance? How do we keep improving/avoid mistakes? #lrnc…
9:14 PM DavidDLaCroix @AllisonAnderson A5) For starters, it’s good to have people you trust, who have your back in that way. #lrnchat
9:14 PM lotus_yon RT @MaddyzDaddy A5: peer review, peer assessment, don’t work in isolation. Look for feedback and give it when asked for.
#lrnchat
9:14 PM Quinnovator a5) take time for reflection, leave tracks, solicit feedback #lrnchat
9:14 PM jshamsy @write2tg Sometimes accepting feedback is hard – but the gain is worth the pain or tug at pride! #lrnchat
9:14 PM TriciaRansom Q5) The organization must support continual learning/improvement. #lrnchat
9:15 PM soozietwits #lrnchat Q5 – Communities of practice, within and external to the organisation
9:15 PM brunowinck Q5) Overconfidence is a good warning sign of stagnating habits if one accepts to hear it as a signal #lrnchat
9:15 PM DaveHallmon @lrnchat A5) Why is the formulation of habits a degredation of performance? #LRNchat
9:15 PM heikan2003 Q5) get a good, truthful mentor #lrnchat
9:15 PM heikan2003 RT @Quinnovator: a5) work ‘out loud’ (expecting Dr. @janebozarth to beat me to this one) #lrnchat
9:15 PM kelly_smith01 Q5) Incident reports – not to rat out performers – to identify skill gaps and process errors #lrnchat
9:15 PM 2be2learn A5 work at peak performance – change things up, mix up teams, hold people accountable, allow creativity & innovation #lrnchat
9:15 PM BrianSMcGowan @lrnchat @Quinnovator #surgery #screening #quality #empathy –> welcome to my world! #lrnchat
9:15 PM DavidDLaCroix A5) And thanks to Twitter, you can always run something past #lrnchat
9:15 PM Quinnovator RT @heikan2003: Q5) get a good, truthful mentor #lrnchat < true, that
9:15 PM lodtrain Q5) We must do continual learning, truly up to us as individuals – thats why I like #lrnchat
9:15 PM TriciaRansom Worked at a place where only promoted based on length of service in a particular silo (Finance, Acct). Why would I want to improve? #lrnchat
9:16 PM lodtrain RT @heikan2003: Q5) get a good, truthful mentor #lrnchat
9:16 PM soozietwits #lrnchat Q5 – do not ‘push’ from the top – but have people engaged in their own unlearning, learning and relearning
9:16 PM TriciaRansom Q5) Don’t reward mediocrity #lrnchat
9:16 PM DaveHallmon @lrnchat I tie my shoe really well. Not much #innovation there. Is this a degradation of performance? #LRNchat
9:16 PM kelly_smith01 RT @heikan2003: RT @Quinnovator: a5) work ‘out loud’ (expecting Dr. @janebozarth to beat me to this one) #lrnchat
9:16 PM lodtrain RT @DavidDLaCroix: A5) And thanks to Twitter, you can always run something past #lrnchat
9:16 PM write2tg A5) Add variety to your work, have someone look at it, learn continuously and voraciously. #lrnchat
9:16 PM 2be2learn RT @TriciaRansom: Q5) Don’t reward mediocrity #lrnchat
9:16 PM lodtrain RT @write2tg: A5) Add variety to your work, have someone look at it, learn continuously and voraciously. #lrnchat
9:17 PM TriciaRansom Actively seek new experiences/connections #lrnchat
9:17 PM Elham_ab RT @Quinnovator: a5) take time for reflection, leave tracks, solicit feedback #lrnchat
9:17 PM manage_lead @MaddyzDaddy Yes, ask for and listen closely to feedback! #lrnchat
9:17 PM heikan2003 RT @lodtrain: A5) And thanks to Twitter, you can always run something past #lrnchat
9:17 PM jshamsy @DaveHallmon Isn’t that the point of “habits” “cognitive shortcuts” to speed it up? Sometimes inc. sometimes dec. performance #lrnchat
9:17 PM DaveHallmon @write2tg So we have to rely on the learner’s ability to do this? Is this something we can train them? #LRNchat
9:17 PM AllisonAnderson RT @lodtrain RT @heikan2003: Q5) get a good, truthful mentor #lrnchat
9:17 PM davidbell02 Q5) You will gain a greater sense of awareness when clients begin to leave. #lrnchat
9:17 PM heikan2003 RT @TriciaRansom: Q5) Don’t reward mediocrity #lrnchat yes!
9:17 PM Quinnovator a5) challenge yourself #lrnchat
9:17 PM TriciaRansom At what point does an action become a habit? #lrnchat
9:17 PM DaveHallmon RT @davidbell02: Q5) You will gain a greater sense of awareness when clients begin to leave. #lrnchat
9:18 PM shalineemattoo A5: continuous learning is the key.be a seeker of new knowledge,get it from everywhere.Not a hoarder, who doesn’t share. Let it go.#lrnchat
9:18 PM tanyalau RT @Quinnovator: a5) take time for reflection, leave tracks, solicit feedback #lrnchat < and get into a habit of doing this
9:18 PM LearnerAdvocate A5)Keep current. Remain an active participant in your life and work. There is no time passivity – LIVE for continual improvement #lrnchat
9:18 PM DaveHallmon @TriciaRansom When we don’t have to think about it. Habits are a good thing🙂 #LRNchat
9:18 PM lodtrain RT @Quinnovator: a5) challenge yourself #lrnchat
9:18 PM Elham_ab 5.observe and connect to others. Reflect and change #lrnchat
9:18 PM Quinnovator RT @tanyalau: RT @Quinnovator: a5) take time for reflection, leave tracks, solicit feedback #lrnchat < and get into a habit of doing this
9:18 PM brunowinck @TriciaRansom habit = when you can’t remember you decided to engage the action #lrnchat
9:18 PM TriciaRansom Q5) As a waitress, I was continually improving…instant feedback via tips #lrnchat
9:18 PM soozietwits @DaveHallmon #lrnchat – this can certainly be taught! (CoP, Action Reserach, etc)
9:18 PM jshamsy RT @davidbell02: Q5) You will gain a greater sense of awareness when clients begin to leave. #lrnchat
9:19 PM davidbell02 Q5) We keep learning by staying engage.
#lrnchat
9:19 PM lodtrain “@TriciaRansom: Q5) As a waitress, I was continually improving…instant feedback via tips #lrnchat” gamification??
9:19 PM TriciaRansom CASH RT @lodtrain “@TriciaRansom: Q5) As a waitress, I was continually improving…instant feedback via tips #lrnchat” gamification??
9:20 PM DaveHallmon @soozietwits Paid time off to develop a #PLN in a sabbatical or something. I work at Joe’s Burgers, but I don’t get a sabbatical. #LRNchat
9:20 PM Elham_ab RT @lrnchat: Q5 How can we be aware when formation of a habit starts to degrade performance? How do we keep improving/avoid mistakes? #lrnc…
9:20 PM Quinnovator a5) make the workplace safe to share, fail, learn #lrnchat
9:20 PM RioPDX A5) By continuing to learn about the subject. “Learning is like rowing upstream; not to advance is to fall back.” #lrnchat
9:20 PM TriciaRansom Q5) Look to change yourself if people actively avoid you, or glaze over when your mouth opens #lrnchat
9:20 PM Dan_Jacques_LD A5) Measure the performance, what are the expectations from what was taught and continuously measure #lrnchat
9:20 PM write2tg RT @RioPDX A5) By continuing to learn about the subject. “Learning is like rowing upstream; not to advance is to fall back.” #lrnchat
9:20 PM sorokti RT @shalineemattoo: A5: continuous learning is the key.be a seeker of new knowledge,get it from everywhere.Not a hoarder, who doesn’t share…
9:20 PM shalineemattoo A5: never be ashamed of learning from anyone, even if you are a noted expert. People can judge but you’ll end up getting better. #lrnchat
9:20 PM onceharby RT @NancySlawski: Interesting article shared in #lrnchat. The dark side of emotional intelligence http://t.co/johqgUz6CS
9:20 PM JaneBozarth @jshamsy @davidbell02 Or not. I’ve seen people write that off as clients “don’t get it” “don’t deserve me” #lrnchat
9:20 PM TriciaRansom RT @JaneBozarth @jshamsy @davidbell02 Or not. I’ve seen people write that off as clients “don’t get it” “don’t deserve me” #lrnchat
9:20 PM LearnerAdvocate A5)I don’t think I want to avoid mistakes…great things often come from complete failure the first few times. #lrnchat
9:20 PM soozietwits #lrnchat Q5 – also – model this behaviour at every level and every opportunity
9:21 PM lrnchat Q6 How can we learn in situations where failure is not an option (such as driving a car)? #lrnchat
9:21 PM Quinnovator a5) learn with others: talk to other experts, watch them, compare, share notes #lrnchat
9:21 PM TriciaRansom RT @lrnchat Q6 How can we learn in situations where failure is not an option (such as driving a car)? #lrnchat
9:21 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q6 How can we learn in situations where failure is not an option (such as driving a car)? #lrnchat
9:21 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat Q6 How can we learn in situations where failure is not an option (such as driving a car)? #lrnchat
9:21 PM davidbell02 Q5) We can really improve performance if we are receptive to all kinds of feedback. #lrnchat
9:21 PM DavidDLaCroix RT @lrnchat: Q6 How can we learn in situations where failure is not an option (such as driving a car)? #lrnchat
9:21 PM shalineemattoo Need to sign off…very interesting chat..good night..god bless you all #lrnchat
9:21 PM davidbell02 RT @lrnchat Q6 How can we learn in situations where failure is not an option (such as driving a car)? #lrnchat
9:21 PM RioPDX RT @lrnchat Q6 How can we learn in situations where failure is not an option (such as driving a car)? #lrnchat
9:21 PM kelly_smith01 RT @lrnchat: Q6 How can we learn in situations where failure is not an option (such as driving a car)? #lrnchat
9:21 PM Elham_ab “@Quinnovator: a5) make the workplace safe to share, fail, learn #lrnchat”> I wish all organizations consider this
9:22 PM Quinnovator a6) scaffolded learning: observation, simulation, safe contexts; develop skills *before* it counts! #lrnchat
9:22 PM TriciaRansom Q6) Failure is always an option. Learn to flex w/the failure. Icy roads? Practice skidding in mall parking lot at night #lrnchat
9:22 PM davidbell02 Q6) Failure is always a possibility. #lrnchat
9:22 PM lodtrain Q6) To learn in situations whr failure not an option train ourselves to be aware, present, open, listen… #lrnchat
9:22 PM heikan2003 RT @Quinnovator: a5) make the workplace safe to share, fail, learn #lrnchat I so believe in training as a safe place.
9:22 PM write2tg A6) Failure is always an option! Even when driving. Accidents do happen. But you don’t have to fail in real-life to learn. #lrnchat
9:22 PM soozietwits RT @lrnchat: Q6 How can we learn in situations where failure is not an option (such as driving a car)? #lrnchat
9:22 PM DaveHallmon @lrnchat A6) My 4 year old is using training wheels on her bike. #LRNchat
9:22 PM DavidDLaCroix RT @TriciaRansom: Q6) Failure is always an option. Learn to flex w/the failure. Icy roads? Practice skidding in mall parking lot at night #…
9:22 PM JaneBozarth @onceharby @NancySlawski that’s from last week’s chat, yes #lrnchat
9:22 PM brunowinck Q6) Learned I shouln’t drive (to easily distracted) #lrnchat
9:22 PM kelly_smith01 Q6) Job aids/performance support integrated in the work environment #lrnchat
9:22 PM AllisonAnderson A6) Don’t think it can be done w/out failure. Got to find a way to fail safely. Pilot use simulators for example. #lrnchat
9:22 PM lodtrain RT @heikan2003: RT @Quinnovator: a5) make the workplace safe to share, fail, learn #lrnchat I so believe in training as a safe place.
9:22 PM Quinnovator a6) failure always an option? Fail before it counts, not when #lrnchat
9:23 PM write2tg A6) If training could mirror real-life and allow failure in a safe environment with feedback – that’s what we need. #lrnchat
9:23 PM tanyalau RT @soozietwits: #lrnchat Q5 – Communities of practice, within & external to the organisation <yes! Seeing others’ work prompts reflection
9:23 PM DavidDLaCroix RT @Quinnovator: a6) failure always an option? Fail before it counts, not when #lrnchat
9:23 PM jshamsy A6) Visualization, scenario based training, thinking about situations before they happen #lrnchat
9:23 PM soozietwits #lrnchat Q6 – know that each time driving is a new experience and you must be ‘within the moment’ while doing it
9:23 PM AllisonAnderson A6) Failure is not only an option, it’s a requirement. Get creative. #lrnchat
9:23 PM JaneBozarth Let’s rephrase Q6: Do you want your heart surgeon to learn by failure? What are other ways? #lrnchat
9:23 PM TriciaRansom Life is all about choices and decisions. Sometimes they’re good, sometimes they’re not…but depends on lens of individual #lrnchat
9:23 PM heikan2003 Q6) we insist on doing the process, no shortcuts #lrnchat
9:23 PM DaveHallmon RT @kelly_smith01: Q6) Job aids/performance support integrated in the work environment #lrnchat
9:23 PM lotus_yon A6 Practice and ask for feedback before attempting to perform the task/project/assignment #lrnchat
9:23 PM LearnerAdvocate A6)Fail where it is safe. Simulation training. Doctor shoudl fail on the sim doll and not me. Scaffolding. Drive in parking lots. #lrnchat
9:23 PM TriciaRansom RT @JaneBozarth Let’s rephrase Q6: Do you want your heart surgeon to learn by failure? What are other ways? #lrnchat
9:23 PM RioPDX A6) Failure is ALWAYS an option, even driving. #lrnchat
9:24 PM lodtrain Q6) Use resources, twitter, colleagues, mentor, coach and get advice, pilot ur stuff… #lrnchat
9:24 PM 2be2learn A6. Sink or swim. Drive the stick shift up the hill, burn the clutch. Build your own confidence #lrnchat
9:24 PM lotus_yon Sometimes, failure is the best way to learn #lrnchat
9:24 PM jshamsy @TriciaRansom In some industries not so much. Different types of failures – small versus big.. Big failure = big loss #lrnchat
9:24 PM heikan2003 @shalineemattoo great comments. Have a great weekend. #lrnchat
9:24 PM davidbell02 Q6) Be present in whatever you are doing and you will have an opportunity to learn. #lrnchat
9:24 PM TriciaRansom Q6) Simulation training is fine, but who really wants to be the first person they practice on? #lrnchat
9:24 PM Quinnovator @JaneBozarth yes, I *do* want my surgeon to learn by failure, many times! But in a simulation, not on me! #lrnchat
9:24 PM DaveHallmon RT @Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth yes, I *do* want my surgeon to learn by failure, many times! But in a simulation, not on me! #lrnchat
9:24 PM JaneBozarth @Quinnovator well then that’s the answer to the q #lrnchat
9:24 PM brunowinck A6) Surgeons learned by trial and errors also, just not your and on you #lrnchat
9:25 PM davidbell02 RT @JaneBozarth @Quinnovator well then that’s the answer to the q #lrnchat
9:25 PM heikan2003 RT @jshamsy: A6) Visualization, scenario based training, thinking about situations before they happen #lrnchat yes.
9:25 PM soozietwits @DaveHallmon #lrnchat – paid time off is not always necessary – if you work at Joe’s then talking with coworkers & customers count
9:25 PM DaveHallmon @lrnchat A6) There just isn’t a way to make it work 100% of the time. If there was, what kind of a world would we be living in? #LRNchat
9:25 PM kelly_smith01 Q6) Checklist – pre-operation meetings described in Checklist Manifesto – Atul Gawande #lrnchat
9:25 PM DavidDLaCroix A6: In case of catastrophe, leave good records behind you! #lrnchat #glovecompartment
9:25 PM write2tg A6) Not all training simulations can prepare you for failure. It still may happen in real-life. But you’ll know how to respond #lrnchat
9:25 PM Quinnovator a6) knowledge test won’t do it; practice, practice, practice #lrnchat
9:25 PM lrnchat QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:25 PM manage_lead RT @JaneBozarth: Let’s rephrase Q6: Do you want your heart surgeon to learn by failure? What are other ways? #lrnchat
9:25 PM DavidDLaCroix RT @lrnchat: QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:25 PM RioPDX A6) To be honest, I think this is a bad question. Sorry! #lrnchat
9:26 PM davidbell02 RT @lrnchat QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:26 PM Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat < already?
9:26 PM write2tg RT @lrnchat QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:26 PM kelly_smith01 Hard to keep up tonight #lrnchat
9:26 PM lodtrain Q6) Pilot, get feedback, make learning better, and then rollout with less issues, also do chg impact map first #lrnchat
9:26 PM TriciaRansom Wait, what? It’s over? It’s not over till I say it’s over #lrnchat
9:26 PM DaveHallmon @soozietwits So is this how you like to fry the fries? The job aid says to add 1tbs of salt? You just added 2tbs… #LRNchat
9:27 PM soozietwits #lrnchat #6 – I’d want my surgeon to have experience, community, knowledge to bring to the situation, and the all important ability to adapt
9:27 PM Quinnovator another witty and wise #lrnchat, thanks to new and returning participants
9:27 PM tanyalau A6) set up opps for practice & failure in ‘safe’ environments – and reflect on failure and get support to improve #lrnchat
9:27 PM write2tg The chat moved fast, time went by quickly, good discussions happened and I enjoyed. Wish all training was like that! #lrnchat
9:27 PM soozietwits RT @lrnchat: QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourselves. Shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
9:27 PM RioPDX RT @TriciaRansom Wait, what? It’s over? It’s not over till I say it’s over #lrnchat
9:27 PM Quinnovator Who’ll be at TK14 next week? Say hi! #lrnchat
9:27 PM Dan_Jacques_LD A6) Simulations in a safe environment, sharing stories of failure and close calls #lrnchat
9:27 PM kelly_smith01 To help avoid failure Checklist Manifesto http://t.co/xZvwQ3dCTP #lrnchat
9:27 PM JaneBozarth RT @TriciaRansom Wait, what? It’s over? It’s not over till I say it’s over #lrnchat
9:27 PM Elham_ab 6. Observe other failures. That’s what worked for me to change the way I used to drive #lrnchat
9:27 PM jshamsy As @JaneBozarth says..that was a great #lrnchat .. could hardly keep up! Thanks for so many great thoughts. Jenn in Atlanta signing off…
9:27 PM 2be2learn Thanks #lrnchat for insight and learning humor. I need that as I go back to my EdD course homework.
9:27 PM lodtrain QWrap) Thanks 4 #lrnchat where autopilot not an option and learning always great, from IT global education
9:28 PM JaneBozarth @Quinnovator I’m at #ASTDTK2014 next week. #lrnchat
9:28 PM Elham_ab RT @lrnchat: Q6 How can we learn in situations where failure is not an option (such as driving a car)? #lrnchat
9:28 PM heikan2003 Qwrap) thanks #lrnchat I needed you guys tonight. Heidi in Kansas. See you next week.
9:28 PM Quinnovator RT @JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator I’m at #ASTDTK2014 next week. #lrnchat < that’s what I meant, me too!
9:28 PM TriciaRansom This is Tricia signing off from the San Fran Bay area. I had a BLAST tonight #lrnchat
9:28 PM brunowinck autopilot chat,lol,RT @lodtrain: QWrap) Thanks 4 #lrnchat where autopilot not an option and learning always great, from IT global education
9:28 PM soozietwits #lrnchat QWrap – Soozie, über edu progressive, finishing my PostGrad while writing articles & speaking – having the time of my life
9:28 PM simmons_m RT @AllisonAnderson: A6) Failure is not only an option, it’s a requirement. Get creative. #lrnchat
9:28 PM kelly_smith01 Was it over when Edison invented slice bread? #lrnchat
9:28 PM TriciaRansom RT @kelly_smith01 Was it over when Edison invented slice bread? #lrnchat
9:29 PM davidbell02 QWrap) An enjoyable hour. May you share your knowledge and experience with others. #lrnchat
9:29 PM DaveHallmon @kelly_smith01 He invented sliced bread? #LRNchat
9:29 PM AllisonAnderson AWrap) Allison Anderson, soon-to-be free agent, looking for a career chat to gather ideas/feedback! Interested? DM me. #lrnchat
9:29 PM chadlockart RT @JaneBozarth: Let’s rephrase Q6: Do you want your heart surgeon to learn by failure? What are other ways? #lrnchat
9:29 PM write2tg Taruna Goel, signing off. Enjoy my new post http://t.co/p2NPpbs3rK #lrnchat
9:29 PM simmons_m RT @AllisonAnderson: A6) Don’t think it can be done w/out failure. Got to find a way to fail safely. Pilot use simulators for example. #lrn…
9:29 PM Quinnovator Clark Quinn, L&D status quo critic, genial malcontent, speaker/author/consultant #lrnchat
9:29 PM RioPDX Rio from Portland, OR Learning Strategist helping @AllisonAnderson find a learning leadership position. #lrnchat
9:29 PM TriciaRansom A checklist for checklists? RT @kelly_smith01 To help avoid failure Checklist Manifesto http://t.co/VgNlC5WU8E #lrnchat
9:30 PM lotus_yon TY #lrnchat for another great learning opportunity. Here are my blogs on leadership, career development & HR http://t.co/3bngPaEOPU
9:30 PM soozietwits @DaveHallmon #lrnchat – procedural work is very different to the creative workforce – certainly!
9:30 PM DaveHallmon @lrnchat @DaveHallmon from #STL trying to make a living out of loving learning. #LRNchat
9:30 PM Elham_ab #lrnchat so glad to be able to make it today. Elham from Singapore. ID & Proj manager+multitasker. Bye everyone. Have a great weekend!
9:31 PM bschlenker @AllisonAnderson the corporate culture problem is bigger than training. But I love your attitude🙂 #lrnchat
9:31 PM DaveHallmon @soozietwits I don’t think we saw much of that distinction tonight #LRNchat
9:31 PM lrnchat Thanks all for joining #lrnchat tonight. See you next week at this same time.