Transcript 13 June 2013 on Learner Beliefs about Learning

Prereading paper by Marlene Schommer.

lrnchat @lrnchat Good night everyone. See you next week in #lrnchat!

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Jennifer Shamsy @jshamsy @janebozarth Thank you Jane =) Thanks for a great #lrnchat So behind..Didn’t get to read the article ahead of time – on the list of…

Matthew Guyan @MattGuyan Thanks everybody for another great lrnchat #lrnchat

Milner-Kemp Corp. @MilnerKempCorp #bones #dwts #glee #gossipgirl #graysanatomy #idol #lrnchat #mlearning @Mayerjs #sharktank #survivor #teachers #theoffice #thevoice #xfactor

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth @jsuzcampos thank you #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth @urbie positive deviant… #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth @jshamsy good to see you Jennifer #lrnchat

Elizabeth Stein @ElizabethLStein @Melynda_Conner so true! we remain observant and always connect to deepen our understanding–and then collaborate #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth @jsuzcampos heh #lrnchat

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Jennifer Shamsy @jshamsy #lrnchat Cool ideas…thanks for a great #lrnchat

Jennifer Shamsy @jshamsy #lrnchat Cool ideas…thanks for a great #lrnchat

urbie delgado @urbie #lrnchat Qwrap urbie delgado, instructional designer, tune-hummer: “I saw learning’s face, now I’m a believer. Yeah, yeah, yeah!”

jaycross @jaycross One person’s constant is another person’s variable. #lrnchat
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Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth @MattGuyan So glad to see Oz folks here! Have a good day — #lrnchat

jaycross @jaycross @jaycross #lrnchat I bet my attention span is shorter than yours, Jane.

Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos Qwrap) THANKS to @JaneBozarth for yet another amazing discussion. I feel like #lrnchat is back from the dead and I’m so glad!

Matthew Guyan @MattGuyan @JaneBozarth Lol. Pity the Aussie dollar has dropped against the US #lrnchat

Melissa Tingley @MMTingley Qwrap) Melissa Tingley, ID specialist & general edu-geek, Boston. Always learning something new! #lrnchat

jaycross @jaycross Thanks to Jane Bozarth. Where does she find the time? #lrnchat
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Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos Qwrap) Jeannette Campos, lover of learning, admirer of design. Red Sox Nation. Leaning In and #winning #lrnchat

jaycross @jaycross Thanks to Jane Bozarth. Where does she find the time? #lrnchat
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Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth @jaycross sometimes my lack of patience works in my favor, see? #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth @tomspiglanin it was example of someone who believed learning was inherited, saw himself as not ‘smart’ #lrnchat

Matthew Guyan @MattGuyan Time flies when you’re having fun! Matt ID from Oz, keen to expand my network and learn from others #lrnchat

Angel Green @LearnerAdvocate Q6b Show them the positive consequences of knowing, and negative of not. It is so much more powerful than a score on a test. #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth The reading for tonight was from Schommer at tinyurl.com/khwj7yw #lrnchat
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Melynda Conner @Melynda_Conner A6) Jumping in here…#lrnchat we learn by paying close attention to the material & we help others learn by paying close attention to them.

jaycross @jaycross Thanks to Jane Bozarth. Where does she find the time? #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Qwrap It’s that time again. WWWW, shameless plugs welcome. #lrnchat
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Jennifer Shamsy @jshamsy RT @jsuzcampos: Q6) To help others learn, we must first be experts at our craft. We must first be learners of learning. #lrnchat…

Elizabeth Stein @ElizabethLStein @jshamsy yes! all part of the process of meaningful learning…must want to be on that quest of understanding. #lrnchat

Jane Hart (C4LPT) @C4LPT qwrap) That was quick. Great to part of #lrnchat again – thanks @janebozarth – Jane Hart in NYC for 1 more day😦

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth The reading for tonight was from Schommer at tinyurl.com/khwj7yw #lrnchat

urbie delgado @urbie #lrnchat A6 also (for others) model. Plus yell, loudly, how cool and energizing learning is. I do on FB ALL the time. Hope my kids get it.

Herb Collins @herbRcollins Qwrap. Great time! Until next week. #lrnchat

Clark Quinn @Quinnovator Clark Quinn, L&D innovation instigator, hope to see some at next weeks #mlearncon! #lrnchat

Danielle Paradis @ebooks_dani Thanks for a great session @lrnchat nice to meet everyone #lrnchat

Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos Q6) At work, emphasize learning as a continual process that occurs everywhere everyday. You don’t need a classroom to learn. #lrnchat

Clark Quinn @Quinnovator thanks to new and returning #lrnchat participants for another wise and witty session
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Tom Spiglanin @tomspiglanin @JaneBozarth have experienced that too, plus opposite – I have a degree let me tell u how wrong u are #LrnChat

Matthew Guyan @MattGuyan Q6 tell them about lrnchat #lrnchat
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Jennifer Shamsy @jshamsy @c4lpt #lrnchat Great point! Let’s hope so..if so we can all rest assured that we will be gainfully employed for many many years =)

Danielle Paradis @ebooks_dani @jshamsy great advice #lrnchat

alod @lodtrain Qwrap thanks for another amazing #lrnchat I am sure to retain a lot IT clickity click training #lrnchat

alod @lodtrain Qwrap thanks for another amazing #lrnchat I am sure to retain a lot IT clickity click training #lrnchat

jaycross @jaycross Jay Cross, Berkeley. Great fun being with you peeps. #lrnchat

Clark Quinn @Quinnovator RT @C4LPT: I think that self-learning is going to be the key skill for the future. If you cant learn – you wont be able to get work #lrnchat

Edumorfosis @edumorfosis RT @c4lpt: I think that self-learning is going to be the key skill for the future. If you cant learn – you wont be able to get work #lrnchat

Clark Quinn @Quinnovator a6) support meta-learning: understanding what learning is, and how to be self-effective at it #lrnchat
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Elizabeth Stein @ElizabethLStein @LifelongAttempt @C4LPT @mlmcpherson it’s about re-channeling fear of not knowing into purposeful actions for learning #lrnchat

Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos @JaneBozarth Sing it, sister. Preaching:Choir. #lrnchat

Matthew Guyan @MattGuyan Q6 tell them about lrnchat #lrnchat
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Clark Quinn @Quinnovator thanks to new and returning #lrnchat participants for another wise and witty session

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth @MattGuyan your check’s in the mail #lrnchat

Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos Q6) To help others learn, we must first be experts at our craft. We must first be learners of learning. #lrnchat
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urbie delgado @urbie #lrnchat A6 best practice: never stop. If you do stop (like I did for a long time) grab it with both hands and don’t let go.

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth @jsuzcampos tell it. #lrnchat

Herb Collins @herbRcollins Q6. Leg’s not forget that basic principal to encourage learning: add the WIFM #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth Help workforce stakeholders see that “learning” has almost nothing to do with what they think of as “school” #lrnchat
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Mary Lynn McPherson @mlmcpherson @LifelongAttempt @C4LPT But it’ hard for students to see the “big picture” or the “forrest” when they are stuck in the trees! #lrnchat

Jennifer Shamsy @jshamsy #lrnchat Q6) Don’t get discouraged…sometimes knowing what you don’t know is more important than knowing what you do know.

Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos Q6) To help others learn, we must first be experts at our craft. We must first be learners of learning. #lrnchat
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Matthew Guyan @MattGuyan Q6 tell them about lrnchat #lrnchat

Clark Quinn @Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Qwrap It’s that time again. WWWW, shameless plugs welcome. #lrnchat < already?

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth Help workforce stakeholders see that “learning” has almost nothing to do with what they think of as “school” #lrnchat

Jane Hart (C4LPT) @C4LPT Speed is not important. Momentary understanding is not enough. Learning is slow burn #lrnchat
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Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos Q6) Be clear with terminology. Training may take a week, but learning takes a lot longer. #lrnchat

Jane Hart (C4LPT) @C4LPT I think that self-learning is going to be the key skill for the future. If you cant learn – you wont be able to get work #lrnchat

Clark Quinn @Quinnovator a5a) research says those who are rewarded for effort do better than those rewarded for achievement #lrnchat
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lrnchat @lrnchat Qwrap It’s that time again. WWWW, shameless plugs welcome. #lrnchat

Jane Hart (C4LPT) @C4LPT q6) Helping people to learn starts in kindergarten – it’s not about force-feeding them stuff. #lrnchat
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Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos Q6) To help others learn, we must first be experts at our craft. We must first be learners of learning. #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth Model for learners, mgmt, HR: ok to make mistakes, ok for something to take time, ok to learn on own rather than handed down #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Q6 How can we help ourselves/others learn to learn? #lrnchat
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Matthew Guyan @MattGuyan Q6 spark their curiosity #lrnchat
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Faye Anderson @LifelongAttempt Yes! RT @C4LPT @mlmcpherson There should be more fear in NOT understanding than in learning #lrnchat

Melissa Tingley @MMTingley Q6) Attitude! Enthusiasm goes a long way. #lrnchat
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Elizabeth Stein @ElizabethLStein @LearnerAdvocate so true! Which raises the question…”what motivates these folks?” #lrnchat

Angel Green @LearnerAdvocate Q5b Don’t deny the power of the ego. It feels good to know something, to do something right. Capitalize on that motivation #lrnchat

Matthew Guyan @MattGuyan Q6 spark their curiosity #lrnchat

Melissa Tingley @MMTingley Q6) Attitude! Enthusiasm goes a long way. #lrnchat

Sarah @sarahdateechur A6. Encourage open discussion. Allow for choice in learning. People are always more engaged when they can follow their passions. #lrnchat

Jane Hart (C4LPT) @C4LPT q6) Helping people to learn starts in kindergarten – it’s not about force-feeding them stuff. #lrnchat

Herb Collins @herbRcollins Q6. Be a role model learner. Do not evangelize, but explain when asked. No heche margaritas a Los cerdos. #lrnchat
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jaycross @jaycross Q6 How can we help ourselves/others learn to learn? Ponder the alternative. #lrnchat
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Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth

Elizabeth Stein @ElizabethLStein A6 It’s all about staying curious–wondering why and always seeking answers to meaningful questions #lrnchat

Herb Collins @herbRcollins Q6. Be a role model learner. Do not evangelize, but explain when asked. No heche margaritas a Los cerdos. #lrnchat

ScienceEvolved @ScienceEvolved #bones #dwts #glee #gossipgirl #graysanatomy #idol #lrnchat #mlearning @Mayerjs #sharktank #survivor #teachers #theoffice #thevoice #xfactor

jaycross @jaycross Q6 How can we help ourselves/others learn to learn? Ponder the alternative. #lrnchat
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jaycross @jaycross Q6 How can we help ourselves/others learn to learn? Ponder the alternative. #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth Pay attention to our beliefs about source, stability, organization, speed, control of learning and how it affects us? #lrnchat

Matthew Guyan @MattGuyan @Quinnovator I wrote a blog post the other day about Dwecks fixed v growth mindset, praising effort = growth, intelligence = fixed #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Q6 How can we help ourselves/others learn to learn? #lrnchat
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Angel Green @LearnerAdvocate Q5a wrote I Love School on my notebooks. Born lover of learning. But I believe in power of motivation for those unlike me #lrnchat

Alison Seaman @AlisonSeaman A4b it’s often unpredictable. Previously ‘disparate’ knowledge/experiences coalesce & worldview shifts. #lrnchat

Danielle Paradis @ebooks_dani Q6 #lrnchat learning objectives and clear purpose. For adults make sure they understand how this knowledge applies to them.

Clark Quinn @Quinnovator a6) support meta-learning: understanding what learning is, and how to be self-effective at it #lrnchat

Jennifer Shamsy @jshamsy #lrnchat Q5B- failure is the biggest opportunity to learn – especially when it hurts. Check out @cliveshepard post -Cognitive Power of…

alod @lodtrain Q6) Help others by positive influence, good information that meets needs – ask what success looks like for them & train #lrnchat

Jane Hart (C4LPT) @C4LPT RT @lrnchat Q6 How can we help ourselves/others learn to learn? #lrnchat
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Elizabeth Stein @ElizabethLStein @Prugelmeister yes, and they learn from mistakes and feel inspired by the learning process #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth @tomspiglanin he felt he was not as smart as others. He was wrong. #lrnchat

Mary Lynn McPherson @mlmcpherson @jaycross @C4LPT Depends on the stakes too! #lrnchat

Jane Hart (C4LPT) @C4LPT RT @lrnchat Q6 How can we help ourselves/others learn to learn? #lrnchat

Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos Q5) Learning is change. I follow Heath Bros advice (Switch) and help learners “follow the bright spots”A strengths-based approach. #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth

Danielle Paradis @ebooks_dani Gone mobile now! #lrnchat

urbie delgado @urbie #lrnchat A5b my belief: if you build it (and it’s timely, engaging, real) they will come. Esp if manager, peers buy-in with deliverables.

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth @Quinnovator @jsuzcampos not according to Schommer’s research #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Q6 How can we help ourselves/others learn to learn? #lrnchat
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lrnchat @lrnchat Q6 How can we help ourselves/others learn to learn? #lrnchat

jaycross @jaycross “@C4LPT: @mlmcpherson There should be more fear in NOT understanding than in learning #lrnchat”

Jane Hart (C4LPT) @C4LPT @tomspiglanin And as “educators” our role is to help others to find that spark to learn – not force learning upon them #lrnchat
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Elizabeth Stein @ElizabethLStein @urbie and scripted curriculum that requires a “one right answer kinda feel.” just so sad. #lrnchat

Jane Hart (C4LPT) @C4LPT @mlmcpherson There should be more fear in NOT understanding than in learning #lrnchat

jaycross @jaycross “If a man says he can do a thing or that he can’t do a thing, he’s right.” Henry Ford. #lrnchat

Tom Spiglanin @tomspiglanin @JaneBozarth how does anyone know what another person knows? Sheesh. Everyone knows something I don’t #lrnchat

alod @lodtrain No one talked about the psychology of reinforcement to encourage lrning/ gamification anyone? #lrnchat

Jennifer Shamsy @jshamsy @mlmcpherson #lrnchat Absolutely..it isn’t comfortable to not be a big fish in a small pond and “not know” nobody likes to be a…

Peter Stoyko @Prugelmeister CHAT. Learner beliefs? Society: encourage L’ers to be well-rounded, worldly. L’ers: question own beliefs; be inquisitive; mindful. #lrnchat

Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos No, Schommer says opposite @Quinnovator: pressures on time induce interest in speed, I reckon; not related to learning beliefs #lrnchat

Melissa Tingley @MMTingley Q5) Too many learners think it’s unchanging. “Can’t learn a language.” “Not good at math” #lrnchat
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Elizabeth Stein @ElizabethLStein 5b: implications for practice must include learner variability #udl for all to have access to information #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Q5b Learners’/Your beliefs about ability to learn: implications for practice? #lrnchat
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Andrea May @AndreaMay1 @ElizabethLStein absolutely! #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth @jaycross YES #lrnchat

jaycross @jaycross “@JaneBozarth: 5b Help them learn to reframe mistakes not as “i failed” but ‘here’s opp to learn” = ties to trust, org climate #lrnchat”

jaycross @jaycross Perception is reality. Let’s demonstrate how easy it can be to learn. Model it. Tout it. #lrnchat
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Jane Hart (C4LPT) @C4LPT #lrnchat The more you learn for yourself, the easier it is to learn
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Jane Hart (C4LPT) @C4LPT @LifelongAttempt Whether or not our orgs value it, it is something that cannot be taken away form us as individuals #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth 5b Help them learn to reframe mistakes not as “i failed” but ‘here’s opp to learn” = ties to trust, org climate #lrnchat

urbie delgado @urbie #lrnchat A5 ability to learn: yes. Look at babies, the young. Something happens in K-12 to low it down. Social angst I think. Later: zoom.

Andrea May @AndreaMay1 @JaneBozarth well now, that is a whole different question! #lrnchat

jaycross @jaycross Perception is reality. Let’s demonstrate how easy it can be to learn. Model it. Tout it. #lrnchat

Melissa Tingley @MMTingley Q5) Too many learners think it’s unchanging. “Can’t learn a language.” “Not good at math” #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Q5b Learners’/Your beliefs about ability to learn: implications for practice? #lrnchat
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Jennifer Shamsy @jshamsy #lrnchat Q5) learning to “learners who love to learn” isn’t really learning..it is just engaging in a passion/way of life…learning to…

lrnchat @lrnchat Q5b Learners’/Your beliefs about ability to learn: implications for practice? #lrnchat
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Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth 5a once in a T3 class where 1 guy mentioned 3X a day that he was only one w/o a degree.He knew way more than rest about his field #lrnchat

Mary Lynn McPherson @mlmcpherson I think there’s the fear factor too – how comfortable are you with being uncomfortable? #lrnchat

Jane Hart (C4LPT) @C4LPT @tomspiglanin And as “educators” our role is to help others to find that spark to learn – not force learning upon them #lrnchat

Faye Anderson @LifelongAttempt How do we/orgs value that time, realize it? MT @C4LPT Every day I learn ..It takes time to build competence/expertise/understanding #lrnchat

Herb Collins @herbRcollins Q5A. Intelligence is inherited, learning how to learn can be learned. How’s that for a buzz phrase? #lrnchat

Jane Hart (C4LPT) @C4LPT Speed is not important. Momentary understanding is not enough. Learning is slow burn #lrnchat
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lrnchat @lrnchat Q5b Learners’/Your beliefs about ability to learn: implications for practice? #lrnchat

Elizabeth Stein @ElizabethLStein @AndreaMay1 and the process must take on different paths for individuals–leading to the same objective of learning #lrnchat

jaycross @jaycross “They are able because they think they are able.” Virgil #lrnchat

Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos Q4) Learning (deep learning that is proven and applied) is often slow. It contradicts the press of business. #lrnchat
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Angel Green @LearnerAdvocate Q4b spaced repetition, reinforcement thru perf support tools support gradual learning. Practice based facilitates rapid learning #lrnchat

Mary Lynn McPherson @mlmcpherson I think there’s a huge element of “WIIFM” esp with adults – what’s in it for me? #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth @AndreaMay1 but do THEY believe they can learn? #lrnchat

Jane Hart (C4LPT) @C4LPT #lrnchat The more you learn for yourself, the easier it is to learn
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Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth 5a I have seen plenty of people who thought they ‘couldn’t’ learn. Affects persistence, ownership of the learning #lrnchat

jaycross @jaycross “

Jennifer Shamsy @jshamsy #lrnchat Q5) Absolutely genetic and changeable…I think some are “learners” by nature..but anyone can be better learner. Given another…

Andrea May @AndreaMay1 Q5) anyone can learn, but some enjoy the process a whole lot more than others #lrnchat
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lrnchat @lrnchat Q5a What do Learners/you believe about ability to learn? Inherited/unchangeable, or can improve over time? #lrnchat
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Tom Spiglanin @tomspiglanin A5) it may be environmental but that spark for learning starts somewhere, then can’t be extinguished #lrnchat

Andrea May @AndreaMay1 Q5) anyone can learn, but some enjoy the process a whole lot more than others #lrnchat

Clark Quinn @Quinnovator @jsuzcampos pressures on time induce interest in speed, I reckon; not related to learning beliefs but pressures? #lrnchat

Elizabeth Stein @ElizabethLStein 5a the ability to learn most definitely improves over time! (I will step off my soap box now) #lrnchat

TeachThought @TeachThought 3 Ways To Use Vine In The Project-Based Learning Classroom teachthought.com/technology/3-w… #edtech #lrnchat
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Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos Yes @mlmcpherson, I always try to be sensitive to that. @jsuzcampos Happens with adult learners too – feeling out of their element! #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth @mlmcpherson Yes, Schommer talks at length about that #lrnchat

jaycross @jaycross Q5. Once again, depends on context. Learning basketball differs from learning to code. It’s always a mix. #lrnchat

Jane Hart (C4LPT) @C4LPT #lrnchat The more you learn for yourself, the easier it is to learn

alod @lodtrain Q5a) Its all – learned, inherited, and once find passion become expert in that area and continue lrning #lrnchat

Danielle Paradis @ebooks_dani #lrnchat @Q5a they forget they’ve been learning ever since!

Mary Lynn McPherson @mlmcpherson Like any skill, it takes practice. Learners need to develop critical thinking skills! #lrnchat

jaycross @jaycross Life is perpetual beta. This throws change into a positive light. Also provides motivation to learn. #lrnchat
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Mary Lynn McPherson @mlmcpherson @jsuzcampos @JaneBozarth Happens with adult learners too – feeling “out of their element!” #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Q5a What do Learners/you believe about ability to learn? Inherited/unchangeable, or can improve over time? #lrnchat
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lrnchat @lrnchat Q5a What do Learners/you believe about ability to learn? Inherited/unchangeable, or can improve over time? #lrnchat
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lrnchat @lrnchat Q5a What do Learners/you believe about ability to learn? Inherited/unchangeable, or can improve over time? #lrnchat
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Melissa Tingley @MMTingley Q4) I definitely like to have background on the info you are giving me. I need the “why.” #lrnchat
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lrnchat @lrnchat Q5a What do Learners/you believe about ability to learn? Inherited/unchangeable, or can improve over time? #lrnchat

Jennifer Shamsy @jshamsy @ebooks_dani And I agree with you too =) #lrnchat

Clark Quinn @Quinnovator a4b) need to space learning out, practice over time, reactivate; quantity and spacing depends on complexity, freq of practice, etc #lrnchat

Elizabeth Stein @ElizabethLStein @MattGuyan @Quinnovator so true, it’s only true learning if it goes beyond those moments–and manipulated & applied by the learner #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth 4a… and yet we deal w a mandate that 2 hours to ‘learn’ the rules about harassment prevention.. #lrnchat

Tom Spiglanin @tomspiglanin @jaycross yup active learning is synthesis between what’s new with what we already know #lrnchat

Matthew Guyan @MattGuyan Q4b provide ongoing learning/performance support after the training is ‘finished’ #lrnchat

Herb Collins @herbRcollins

Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos I gave up too,not “getting it” made me feel stupid. RT @JaneBozarth: As a kid: if I did not ‘get’ math quickly I gave up #lrnchat

Melissa Tingley @MMTingley Q4) I definitely like to have background on the info you are giving me. I need the “why.” #lrnchat

alod @lodtrain Q4) JIT – just in time training, helps learner #lrnchat

Danielle Paradis @ebooks_dani @JaneBozarth @q4b Yes route-memorization and behaviourism over scaffolding #lrnchat

Kate Small @katsma77 Q4 – if I really want to learn it I try to-but sometimes my brain says no. Motivation has a place in speed as much as content #lrnchat

urbie delgado @urbie #lrnchat A4b it depends on vehicle (strategies): activity, evidence-based = quick. Especially when it’s anchored to an expectation w/mgr.

Mary Lynn McPherson @mlmcpherson

Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos Totally love seeing so many #EDUC689 colleagues here, learning in new ways, challenging themselves to learn differently! #lrnchat

Jane Hart (C4LPT) @C4LPT Speed is not important. Momentary understanding is not enough. Learning is slow burn #lrnchat
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Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth 4a I know this affected me as a kid: if I did not ‘get’ math quickly I gave up #lrnchat

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Clark Quinn @Quinnovator a4b) practice ’til they can’t get it wrong #lrnchat
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Tom Spiglanin @tomspiglanin @JaneBozarth imagine that, Jane. Many of us are, and we have that right. Learning is pull after all #lrnchat

Matthew Guyan @MattGuyan @Quinnovator agree, you can to it today but what about next week, next month? #lrnchat

jaycross @jaycross “@C4LPT: Every day I learn something new, something on top of something. It takes time to build competence/expertise/understanding #lrnchat”

Jennifer Shamsy @jshamsy #lrnchat Q4a) Agree with @DaniParadis – deep learning takes a lot of time and experience – time & effort
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Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth @ebooks_dani @q4b ties back to q1 – belief that “knowing” means “recalling”? #lrnchat

Elizabeth Stein @ElizabethLStein @jsuzcampos agreed! It’s the meaning that matters, not the speed. #lrnchat

Jane Hart (C4LPT) @C4LPT Every day I learn something new, something on top of something else. It takes time to build competence/expertise/understanding #lrnchat

alod @lodtrain Q4b – Look at us at #lrnchat and the speed of our learning tonite

Clark Quinn @Quinnovator a4b) practice ’til they can’t get it wrong #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Q4b Learners’/Your beliefs about SPEED of learning: implications for practice? #lrnchat
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Angel Green @LearnerAdvocate Q4 aHot stove = burned hand that’s rapid. When consequences are experienced in training speed to learn will be greater. #lrnchat

Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos Q4) “I am always willing to learn. I do not always like being taught.” ~Churchill, #lrnchat

Herb Collins @herbRcollins Q4A. In my world, the firehose approach is acceptable. This, of course, is ridiculous. Slow and sure is the way to make it stick. #lrnchat

Mary Lynn McPherson @mlmcpherson @jsuzcampos Yeah, but the old grade is due at the end of the semester! #lrnchat

alod @lodtrain Q4a) I have to learn fast to tech tech, but LOVE it #lrnchat

jaycross @jaycross Then there’s the matter of how long the learning sticks. Rapid decay or gradual? #lrnchat

Clark Quinn @Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q4b Learners’/Your beliefs about SPEED of learning: implications for practice? #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth 4a Every time I see something like “Learn to Build an Effective Team” in 3 hours.. it sends message re speed of learning #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth 4a I am not always a patient learner. Shocking to those who know me, I’m sure. #lrnchat
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Elizabeth Stein @ElizabethLStein Hey @danieldmccabe great to connect with you! #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Q4b Learners’/Your beliefs about SPEED of learning: implications for practice? #lrnchat

Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos Q4) Difference between training and learning. Training ends, learning never does. So, what’s the rush? #lrnchat
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Mary Lynn McPherson @mlmcpherson Student suck up content, vomit it back all the time. Doesn’t mean they “learned” it or retain! #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth 4a I am not always a patient learner. Shocking to those who know me, I’m sure. #lrnchat

Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos Q4) Speed is of no interest to me. I like to see gradual improvement. #lrnchat
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Andrea May @AndreaMay1 Q4a) Speed of learning is most often a function of motivation. #lrnchat
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Danielle Paradis @ebooks_dani @q4b lrns tend to cram knowledge rather than attain gradually prefer to get “over and done with” so they can get back to work. #lrnchat

urbie delgado @urbie #lrnchat A4a it depends on perspective. If you get “it” it takes a snail’s pace for others. If you don’t and peers do it. Happens too fast.

Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos Q4) Speed is of no interest to me. I like to see gradual improvement. #lrnchat

Sarah @sarahdateechur A4. I think learning may be slower than acquisition. Acquisition = natural, learning = a conscious process. #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Q4a What do Learners/you believe about SPEED of learning? Quick or not at all? Gradual? #lrnchat
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Jane Hart (C4LPT) @C4LPT Speed is not important. Momentary understanding is not enough. Learning is slow burn #lrnchat
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Jane Hart (C4LPT) @C4LPT Speed is not important. Momentary understanding is not enough. Learning is slow burn #lrnchat

Elizabeth Stein @ElizabethLStein 4a: speed of knowledge varies by individual processing abilities and it becomes speedier with deeper background knowledge base #lrnchat

Faye Anderson @LifelongAttempt Ultimate game of thrones🙂 ‏@jaycross Change dethrones experts. #lrnchat

Mary Lynn McPherson @mlmcpherson @JaneBozarth Sure, when necessary. Often it’s correcting a misperception of “what I [thought] know to be true!” #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Q4a What do Learners/you believe about SPEED of learning? Quick or not at all? Gradual? #lrnchat

Jennifer Shamsy @jshamsy #lrnchat Q4a) Agree with @DaniParadis – deep learning takes a lot of time and experience – time & effort

Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos Q4) Difference between training and learning. Training ends, learning never does. So, what’s the rush? #lrnchat
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Andrea May @AndreaMay1 Q4a) Speed of learning is most often a function of motivation. #lrnchat

Jane Hart (C4LPT) @C4LPT #lrnchat

Jane Hart (C4LPT) @C4LPT #lrnchat Speed not important, momentary “understanding” is not enough, learning is slow-burn.

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth @jaycross that’s coming up as q 4 #lrnchat

jaycross @jaycross Most rapid eLearning is crap IMHO. #lrnchat

Clark Quinn @Quinnovator a4a) but systems condition learners to believe it’s quick (’til you get it right) #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Q4a What do Ls/you believe about SPEED of learning? Quick or not at all? Gradual? #lrnchat
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Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos Q4) Difference between training and learning. Training ends, learning never does. So, what’s the rush? #lrnchat

Clark Quinn @Quinnovator a4a) not surprisingly, answer is ‘it depends’: on complexity, relation to prior experience, etc #lrnchat
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Susan Horsey @SusanHorsey @JaneBozarth @jsuzcampos And often we look to experts for stability, that assurance that they know the answers.#lrnchat

jaycross @jaycross Q3 depends on context. Some learning is fast, some is not. Depends on what’s being learned… and the learner. #lrnchat
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Andrea May @AndreaMay1 “@jaycross: Change dethrones experts. #lrnchat” Yep!
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urbie delgado @urbie #lrnchat A3b change happens slow mostly. Leaders have a non-rational fear of needing to update skills/practice now. Quarterly updates rule.

Clark Quinn @Quinnovator a4a) not surprisingly, answer is ‘it depends’: on complexity, relation to prior experience, etc #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth Unlearning

alod @lodtrain Q4a) Speed of learning, seeing quick learning – short elearn with map to support topics, 1 hr webinar, 3 hr f2f #lrnchat

jaycross @jaycross Q3 depends on context. Some learning is fast, some is not. Depends on what’s being learned… and the learner. #lrnchat

Helen Blunden @ActivateLearn RT @lrnchat: Q4a What do Ls/you believe about SPEED of learning? Quick or not at all? Gradual? #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth @mlmcpherson what if it isn’t building, but unlearning, overwriting? #lrnchat

Jennifer Shamsy @jshamsy #lrnchat Q3B) I think perspective changes – what “what you have learned” means in context of constantly changing mental hierarchy

Andrea May @AndreaMay1 “@jaycross: Change dethrones experts. #lrnchat” Yep!

Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos Q4) Learning (deep learning that is proven and applied) is often slow. It contradicts the press of business. #lrnchat

Angel Green @LearnerAdvocate Q3b Don’t put learning on the shelf and let them reside forever. Update, maintenance should be planned prior to launch #lrnchat

Elizabeth Stein @ElizabethLStein 3b: only thing stable about stability of knowledge is the fact that learning evolves as it builds upon prior knowledge #lrnchat

Danielle Paradis @DaniParadis #lrnchat Q4 can be either but gradual sticks for a longer period of time!

lrnchat @lrnchat Q4a What do Ls/you believe about SPEED of learning? Quick or not at all? Gradual? #lrnchat
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Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth q3 another challenge w those who believe learning is fixed: they interpret ‘tentative’ as ‘certain’ #lrnchat

jaycross @jaycross Change dethrones experts. #lrnchat

Herb Collins @herbRcollins @JaneBozarth LOL #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Q4a What do Ls/you believe about SPEED of learning? Quick or not at all? Gradual? #lrnchat
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lrnchat @lrnchat Q4a What do Ls/you believe about SPEED of learning? Quick or not at all? Gradual? #lrnchat

Kate Small @katsma77 @jsuzcampos totally agree – training is seen as just for what you do not about performance! I love the surprise when u link it #lrnchat

Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos @JaneBozarth Hi Jane, yes agree — I think that’s true of many “experts” who resist new ideas/tools/approaches #lrnchat

Mary Lynn McPherson @mlmcpherson @JaneBozarth Isn’t that a principle of adult learning – building on prior experiences? #lrnchat

Herb Collins @herbRcollins Q3B. Trust but verify! #lrnchat

Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos Q3b) Implications: UPSKILLING is requisite among our own cadre of workplace learning professionals. #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth @jsuzcampos I think that’s true of many “experts” who resist new ideas/tools/approaches #lrnchat

alod @lodtrain q3b) Stability of knowledge nah – find different ways of educating to keep folks learning – ask expert session, elrn, webinar #lrnchat

jaycross @jaycross Lack of change is psychologically comforting, it’s just not the way the world works. #lrnchat
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jaycross @jaycross Life is perpetual beta. This throws change into a positive light. Also provides motivation to learn. #lrnchat
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Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth @herbRcollins I can’t hear you until you fill out form A34XY in triplicate #lrnchat

jaycross @jaycross “@JaneBozarth: 3b we need to help them learn to unlearn/overwrite, not just “sell” some new idea #lrnchat”

Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos Q3a) Never confuse momentary understanding with deep learning. Trainers do it all the time. #lrnchat
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Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth 3b we need to help them learn to unlearn/overwrite, not just “sell” some new idea #lrnchat

Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos Q3a) Never confuse momentary understanding with deep learning. Trainers do it all the time. #lrnchat
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Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos Q3a) In workplace, I see lots of trainers who prefer to think of knowledge as stable and fixed. Comforts them to have mastery. #lrnchat

Herb Collins @herbRcollins @JaneBozarth And we know what a mess the gubmint is in! #lrnchat

Andrea May @AndreaMay1 Qa3) knowledge is anything but stable, experience constantly reshapes it #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth Amen to that RT @jsuzcampos Q3a) Never confuse momentary understanding with deep learning. Trainers do it all the time. #lrnchat

Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos Q3a) At its embryonic level, learning IS change. Learning is evolution. #lrnchat
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lrnchat @lrnchat Q3b Learners’s/Your beliefs about STABILITY of knowledge: implications for practice? #lrnchat
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Mary Lynn McPherson @mlmcpherson It can be a little disheartening. Everything I think “I got this!” only to find out, no, not so much! Shifting sands! #lrnchat

jaycross @jaycross Life is perpetual beta. This throws change into a positive light. Also provides motivation to learn. #lrnchat
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lrnchat @lrnchat Q3b Learners’s/Your beliefs about STABILITY of knowledge: implications for practice? #lrnchat
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Clark Quinn @Quinnovator a3b) give up on practice ’til they get it right, practice *has* to be ’til they can’t get it wrong #lrnchat

jaycross @jaycross Life is perpetual beta. This throws change into a positive light. Also provides motivation to learn. #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Q3b Learners’s/Your beliefs about STABILITY of knowledge: implications for practice? #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Q3b L’s/Your beliefs about STABILITY of knowledge: implications for practice? #lrnchat
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Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos Q3a) Never confuse momentary understanding with deep learning. Trainers do it all the time. #lrnchat

Herb Collins @herbRcollins @lodtrain does accounting actually remain the same? As regulations change, accounting practices and technology change. #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Q3b L’s/Your beliefs about STABILITY of knowledge: implications for practice? #lrnchat
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jaycross @jaycross Everything flows. #lrnchat

urbie delgado @urbie #lrnchat A3a institutional knowledge is slow changing. Its inertia rubs off on community. Thankfully PD to the rescue.

lrnchat @lrnchat Q3b L’s/Your beliefs about STABILITY of knowledge: implications for practice? #lrnchat

Faye Anderson @LifelongAttempt What needs to be ‘known’ keeps evolving as well! ‏RT @MattGuyan Q3a I think knowledge is evolving, it’s hard to keep up! #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth q3 schommer: believing learning is fixed = “the illusion of knowing” #lrnchat
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Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth q3 schommer: believing learning is fixed = “the illusion of knowing” #lrnchat
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jaycross @jaycross Lack of change is psychologically comforting, it’s just not the way the world works. #lrnchat
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Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos Q3a) At its embryonic level, learning IS change. Learning is evolution. #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth q3 schommer: believing learning is fixed = “the illusion of knowing” #lrnchat

Tom Spiglanin @tomspiglanin @jaycross it ain’t great, Jay, but it works #lrnchat

Angel Green @LearnerAdvocate Q3a Evolving…daily. There are few things I learned long ago that I haven’t evolved understand of over time. Even the basics #lrnchat

Dana Willett @drwillett 3a knowldg is recognized as evolving by the learner when there is discomfort in holding on to status quo #lrnchat

jaycross @jaycross Lack of change is psychologically comforting, it’s just not the way the world works. #lrnchat

Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos Q3a) At workplace, learners don’t always equate learning/training as way to bring about change in the form of improved performance. #lrnchat

Jennifer Shamsy @jshamsy @jsuzcampos #lrnchat That is safe..you can learn it, take the test, know it..gives confidence to spit out a bunch of information. i.e-…

Herb Collins @herbRcollins Q3a. In my world of software there is base knowledge and new knowledge, both of which are accepted to constantly evolving. #lrnchat

Mary Lynn McPherson @mlmcpherson @jsuzcampos I agree; students in particular are reluctant to consider variables that influence decision-makgin #lrnchat
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Clark Quinn @Quinnovator a3) our systems imply belief in ‘fixed’ knowledge, despite research showing everything reconstituted ‘on the fly’, in context #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth @sarahdateechur most of us are workplace, not academia #lrnchat

Jane Hart (C4LPT) @C4LPT @MMTingley Hopefully at a much earlier age #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Q3a What do Learners/you believe about STABILITY of knowledge? Unchanging? Evolving? #lrnchat
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alod @lodtrain Q3b) Depends on what you do with lrning chging like accounting stays same, but medicine chges #lrnchat

Sarah @sarahdateechur Hey #lrnchat, do any of you happen to teach MS ELA, with ESL students in your class? Looking for participants for dissertation research, thx
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Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth 3a I work for gubmint. DEEP belief that things are “known” and unchanging #lrnchat

Helen Blunden @ActivateLearn RT @mattguyan: Q3a I think knowledge is evolving, it’s hard to keep up! #lrnchat
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Mary Lynn McPherson @mlmcpherson @jsuzcampos I agree; students in particular are reluctant to consider variables that influence decision-makgin #lrnchat

Jennifer Shamsy @jshamsy #lrnchat Q3a) Depends on the topic – some knowledge will be constant while other knowledge should/does change as context changes. Have…

Sarah @sarahdateechur Hey #lrnchat, do any of you happen to teach MS ELA, with ESL students in your class? Looking for participants for dissertation research, thx

Melissa Tingley @MMTingley @C4LPT Possibly when we choose our major in college. #lrnchat

Dina Moati @dinamoati @JaneBozarth @mlmcpherson WOW, good doc Jane, would love to chat with you about this one #lrnchat

Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos I find learners are typically more comfortable with knowledge that is “stable”howevdr unreasonable. #lrnchat
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jaycross @jaycross @tomspiglanin @jaycross #lrnchat Thanks, Tom. I’m in.

Helen Blunden @ActivateLearn A3a) Believe that learning IS change & evolution. #lrnchat
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Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth 3a this is wear fear-based advertising etc comes from. “News said applesauce wil kill you!” #lrnchat

Jennifer Shamsy @jshamsy @janebozarth #lrnchat 2b- but that isn’t what they teach us in school. Everything goes in a nice neat individual box =(

Helen Blunden @ActivateLearn RT @mattguyan: Q3a I think knowledge is evolving, it’s hard to keep up! #lrnchat

Mary Lynn McPherson @mlmcpherson Evolving, but sometimes hard to convince learners that they must recall previous content and build on it #lrnchat

Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos I find learners are typically more comfortable with knowledge that is “stable”howevdr unreasonable. #lrnchat

Tom Spiglanin @tomspiglanin Knowledge is in the mind of the holder. If it’s not evolving, well, that’s a problem. #lrnchat

Michael Sutton @VirtualMCS @lrnchat forever changing. The organic nature of it means our challenge is how to make access to learning and knowledge organic #lrnchat

Helen Blunden @ActivateLearn A3a) Believe that learning IS change & evolution. #lrnchat

Clark Quinn @Quinnovator RT @VirtualMCS: That one right answer gives our Compliance managers a lot of comfort LoL #lrnchat < sadly, wrongly.

jaycross @jaycross One person’s constant is another person’s variable. #lrnchat

Jane Hart (C4LPT) @C4LPT #lrnchat as an ID you CANT connect current learning to previous learning cos you dont know what it is. Only individual can do that

Dina Moati @dinamoati @mlmcpherson true, while some learners fear uncertainty, others see opportunities for creativity and innovation #lrnchat

Mary Lynn McPherson @mlmcpherson @JaneBozarth I think it depends on the scenario. Learners need to know WHEN one answer is the goal, vs. interpretation. #lrnchat

alod @lodtrain Q3a) thats the beauty of knowledge it changes (I have old txt books and really funny to c chgs) more to lrn #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth Not necessarily @mlmcpherson @dinamoati see tinyurl.com/khwj7yw #lrnchat

Matthew Guyan @MattGuyan Q3a I think knowledge is evolving, it’s hard to keep up! #lrnchat

Susan Horsey @SusanHorsey Hello #lrnchat. Jumping in late. Will try to catch up.

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth 3a I believe evolving, but any of us who’ve worked with change mgmt know how fixed “knowledge” can be … #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Q3a What do Learners/you believe about STABILITY of knowledge? Unchanging? Evolving? #lrnchat
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jaycross @jaycross Q3 Always evolving. The present is but a moment. #lrnchat

Melissa Tingley @MMTingley @JaneBozarth depends on how the “expert” handles it #lrnchat

Angel Green @LearnerAdvocate Q2b As an ID, I try to connect the current learning to previous learning. Orgs must be careful not to confuse info with learning #lrnchat

Expertus @ExpertusONE MT @stipton Great info! RT @tmiket Ultimate Guide To Becoming An Amazing Twitter Curator bit.ly/HcIFgB #lrnchat #chat2lrn #content
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lrnchat @lrnchat Q3a What do Learners/you believe about STABILITY of knowledge? Unchanging? Evolving? #lrnchat
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lrnchat @lrnchat Q3a What do Learners/you believe about STABILITY of knowledge? Unchanging? Evolving? #lrnchat
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Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth @mlmcpherson so then who has created the problem? It’s chicken/egg.. #lrnchat

Mary Lynn McPherson @mlmcpherson @dinamoati Sometimes yes one right answer, sometimes no! Learners hate that! #lrnchat

Expertus @ExpertusONE MT @stipton Great info! RT @tmiket Ultimate Guide To Becoming An Amazing Twitter Curator bit.ly/HcIFgB #lrnchat #chat2lrn #content

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth @dinamoati @mlmcpherson see tinyurl.com/khwj7yw #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Q3a What do Learners/you believe about STABILITY of knowledge? Unchanging? Evolving? #lrnchat
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Faye Anderson @LifelongAttempt Good learning points us towards this path, again & again MT @C4LPT #lrnchat but at what point do we realise it is up to us as individuals?

lrnchat @lrnchat Q3a What do Learners/you believe about STABILITY of knowledge? Unchanging? Evolving? #lrnchat

Matthew Guyan @MattGuyan Q2b But if you don’t take a test, I can’t give you a score then I can’t rank you or tick my box #lrnchat
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Melissa Tingley @MMTingley Coming in late to #lrnchat is tougher for this one…

Jeannette Campos @jsuzcampos Hi #lrnchat, having some difficulty with connectivity tonight, but trying to participate!

Jane Hart (C4LPT) @C4LPT @MattGuyan thank goodness #lrnchat

Danielle Paradis @ebooks_dani @jaycross I use Tweetdeck #lrnchat they have a broswer based Chrome option

Dina Moati @dinamoati @jaycross try twubs, it’s working #lrnchat

Michael Sutton @VirtualMCS @Quinnovator @mlmcpherson That one right answer gives our Compliance managers a lot of comfort LoL #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth 2b those who view learning as networked, connected = better at complex prob solv, integrating/applying new info #lrnchat

Tom Spiglanin @tomspiglanin @jaycross #lrnchat tchat.io

Matthew Guyan @MattGuyan Q2b But if you don’t take a test, I can’t give you a score then I can’t rank you or tick my box #lrnchat

Dina Moati @dinamoati @mlmcpherson Do you think there’s one right answer all the time? It depends on the context, no? #lrnchat

jaycross @jaycross Damn. SmartSteam has frozen on me. What alternatives are people using? #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth @tomspiglanin Don’t we teach them that? #lrnchat

alod @lodtrain Q2b) All about WIFM WIFC (co.) WIFB (bonus) #lrnchat

Amar Dhaliwal @adhaliwal Q2a) Most learners in most organizations spend zero time thinking about the organization of knowledge. Personal value is all. #lrnchat

Clark Quinn @Quinnovator RT @mlmcpherson: But learners are often assessed on “one right answer” #lrnchat < you’re so right, and it’s *so* wrong
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Tom Spiglanin @tomspiglanin A2) I fear many believe there’s a right answer or a recipe for everything. #sayitaintso #lrnchat
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Herb Collins @herbRcollins Q2a. Lrng can be ad hoc. But, for most is best put in some type of wrapper like a curriculum which leads to focused learning. #lrnchat

Tom Spiglanin @tomspiglanin A2) I fear many believe there’s a right answer or a recipe for everything. #sayitaintso #lrnchat
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Clark Quinn @Quinnovator RT @mlmcpherson: But learners are often assessed on “one right answer” #lrnchat < you’re so right, and it’s *so* wrong
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Clark Quinn @Quinnovator RT @mlmcpherson: But learners are often assessed on “one right answer” #lrnchat < you’re so right, and it’s *so* wrong

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth 2b Schommer says those who believe learning = bits, memorize, recall may have trouble applying #lrnchat

Jane Hart (C4LPT) @C4LPT #lrnchat Learning only happens “on top” of existing understanding; if authority doesn’t lay the foundation – you wil have to DIY

Tom Spiglanin @tomspiglanin A2) I fear many believe there’s a right answer or a recipe for everything. #sayitaintso #lrnchat

Angel Green @LearnerAdvocate Q2a I believe interconnected, though with advances in JIT availability to info I can see it becoming bits. I watched a video…#lrnchat

Clark Quinn @Quinnovator AND, we need to help learners understand their responsibility in learning! #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth 2b see pic.twitter.com/GUChHpXwUZ If ‘learning’ = recall , studying = memorizing, proof = passing test or some such #lrnchat
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Mary Lynn McPherson @mlmcpherson But learners are often assessed on “one right answer” #lrnchat

Clark Quinn @Quinnovator a2b) need to activate concepts in concert while solving problems in concert #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth 2b see pic.twitter.com/GUChHpXwUZ If ‘learning’ = recall , studying = memorizing, proof = passing test or some such #lrnchat

Matthew Guyan @MattGuyan Q2b while networks are great, sometimes there is too much to process effectively #lrnchat

alod @lodtrain Q2b) Organization of knowledge should be BYOB bring your own browser – find from tablets, ipads, pc, phone.. #lrnchat

Clark Quinn @Quinnovator a1) to paraphrase Dorothy Parker, you can lead a learner to learning, but you can’t make ’em think #lrnchat
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lrnchat @lrnchat Q2b Beliefs about ORGANIZATION of knowledge: implications for ourselves/ practice? #lrnchat
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Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth 2b those who believe learning = discrete bits want ‘one right’ answer, may not look for alternative paths #lrnchat

Clark Quinn @Quinnovator a2a) learning: concepts activated in concert in context w/ reflection, but ‘school’ says learning is ‘fact’ regurgitation #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Q2b Beliefs about ORGANIZATION of knowledge: implications for ourselves/ practice? #lrnchat
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Sarah @sarahdateechur @ebooks_dani Hello! Do you write eBooks with your students? Just a wild guess from your SN lol. #lrnchat

Matthew Guyan @MattGuyan Q2a I’m learning a lot thru networks at the moment, I also like to learn WINI (When I Need It) #lrnchat

Jennifer Shamsy @jshamsy @quinnovator #lrnchat For “test,” by deadline-cause someone else says need to know something in particular format-no emphasis on application

lrnchat @lrnchat Q2b Beliefs about ORGANIZATION of knowledge: implications for ourselves/ practice? #lrnchat

Dina Moati @dinamoati +1 RT @TomSpiglanin A2) Me? I think knowledge is everywhere, let me connect the dots. #lrnchat

alod @lodtrain Q2a) My learners love Perf Support – job aids , quick cards, short videos, me too love elearning heros site #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Just joining? #lrnchat tonight is based on article tinyurl.com/khwj7yw see esp p 128

Danielle Paradis @ebooks_dani @sarahdateechur hello! #lrnchat

Dina Moati @dinamoati A2: I see learning through a constructivist module where info is connected to prior knowledge #lrnchat

Sarah @sarahdateechur Hello everyone, I’m Sarah, an ELA/Tech Teacher in MD. Jumping on late…just saw hashtag in my newsfeed. #lrnchat

Tom Spiglanin @tomspiglanin A2) Me? I think knowledge is everywhere, let me connect the dots. #lrnchat

Mary Lynn McPherson @mlmcpherson Lots of experts can’t “teach” their way out of a brown paper bag #lrnchat
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Jane Hart (C4LPT) @C4LPT #lrnchat our 1st exposure to “learning” comes at school (as authority) but at what point do we realise it is up to us as individuals?
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Danielle Paradis @ebooks_dani Q2) My lrnrs tend to attempt to cram knowledge and therefore retain less until chance for hands-on practice #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth 2a Schommer talks about learners who believe in “simple knowledge”: bits that can be memorized/stored/recalled #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Q2a What do Learners/you believe about ORGANIZATION of knowledge? Bits? Networks? Loose? Interrelated? #lrnchat
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alod @lodtrain Q2a) Networks/collaborating like in #lrnchat is a great way to learn

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth 2a beliefs in bits/recall = “Jeopardy” … #lrnchat

Angel Green @LearnerAdvocate Q1b authoritative learning lacks desire to apply, so org. mandates might be necessary to reach application. #lrnchat

Jane Hart (C4LPT) @C4LPT #lrnchat our 1st exposure to “learning” comes at school (as authority) but at what point do we realise it is up to us as individuals?

lrnchat @lrnchat Q2a What do Learners/you believe about ORGANIZATION of knowledge? Bits? Networks? Loose? Interrelated? #lrnchat
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Herb Collins @herbRcollins Q1B. Perhaps to encourage folks to listen and learn we need to exude authority. #lrnchat

Clark Quinn @Quinnovator @jshamsy ‘xactly! problem-solving in meaningful context sticks & leads to valuable skills, so *why* do we cram knowledge? #lrnchat

Danielle Paradis @ebooks_dani Q2) speaking for self knowledge is chunked and there are networks which is how you can do memory recall! #lrnchat

jaycross @jaycross Whoops. Interrupted by a phone call. Now back and raring to get into this one. #lrnchat

Mary Lynn McPherson @mlmcpherson Lots of experts can’t “teach” their way out of a brown paper bag #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth 2a I see increasing awareness that learning = networked info, not just discrete bits. Has changed in past 5 years #lrnchat
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alod @lodtrain Q2a) Learners believe knowledge is everywhere informal, formal, google, chat with colleagues but want it located in one spot #lrnchat

Dawn Adams Miller @dawnladams 2a) Yes. Depends on learning need. #lrnchat

Jennifer Shamsy @jshamsy @Quinnovator #lrnchat many inundated with what they have to learn.. Learning for the test or “cramming” isn’t really learning
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Amar Dhaliwal @adhaliwal A1) We know good learning when we experience it but often difficult to describe it #lrnchat
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Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth 2a I see increasing awareness that learning = networked info, not just discrete bits. Has changed in past 5 years #lrnchat

Jennifer Shamsy @jshamsy @Quinnovator #lrnchat many inundated with what they have to learn.. Learning for the test or “cramming” isn’t really learning

Dina Moati @dinamoati @Quinnovator couldn’t agree more, passive vs active #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Q2a What do Learners/you believe about ORGANIZATION of knowledge? Bits? Networks? Loose? Interrelated? #lrnchat
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Clark Quinn @Quinnovator RT @JaneBozarth: Doesn’t ‘school’ reinforce idea that learning = coming from expert? #lrnchat < when done badly (i.e. most)

Amar Dhaliwal @adhaliwal A1) We know good learning when we experience it but often difficult to describe it #lrnchat

Clark Quinn @Quinnovator a1b) believe evidence is that learners who believe they’ve a role in learning actually do better (just can’t recall source) #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Q2a What do Learners/you believe about ORGANIZATION of knowledge? Bits? Networks? Loose? Interrelated? #lrnchat
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Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth Doesn’t ‘school’ reinforce idea that learning = coming from expert? #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth 1b Schommer: learners who believe that learning comes from outside authority wil likely have issues w initiative #lrnchat
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lrnchat @lrnchat Q2a What do Learners/you believe about ORGANIZATION of knowledge? Bits? Networks? Loose? Interrelated? #lrnchat

Angel Green @LearnerAdvocate Q1a struggle to generalize. Some learning authoritative. (how to submit time sheets cause job forced me to) others I want to know #lrnchat

Clark Quinn @Quinnovator @LifelongAttempt oh, you said the ‘E’ word! (seriously, epistemology is a lovely concept🙂 #lrnchat
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Clark Quinn @Quinnovator a1b) we know learning is best from w/in, but afraid learners often feel learning is ‘done to us’ #lrnchat
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Clark Quinn @Quinnovator @LifelongAttempt oh, you said the ‘E’ word! (seriously, epistemology is a lovely concept🙂 #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth 1b Schommer: learners who believe that learning comes from outside authority wil likely have issues w initiative #lrnchat
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alod @lodtrain Q1B) Learned that no matter what type of learner they want short pointed info – tooo much training is thrust on them, give them PS #lrnchat

Dina Moati @dinamoati Don’t we also shape our learning?If we believe that learning happens to us,don’t we learn 2 b helpless?#leanredhelplessness #lrnchat

Danielle Paradis @ebooks_dani @LifelongAttempt That was me yesterday! Hallway or bathroom in this apt building #lrnchat

Matthew Guyan @MattGuyan Q1b I think learners should be the source of learning, then go to the source of knowledge/info etc #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Q1b Beliefs about SOURCE of learning: Implications for ourselves/our practice? #lrnchat
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Clark Quinn @Quinnovator a1b) we know learning is best from w/in, but afraid learners often feel learning is ‘done to us’ #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Tonight’s #lrnchat:”Learner beliefs about learning.” Based on Schommer article tinyurl.com/khwj7yw L=”Learner”
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Faye Anderson @LifelongAttempt Today I learned the best place in house to hide out in case of tornado! This is officially my 2nd #lrnchat. Closet epistemology enthusiast.

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth 1b Schommer: learners who believe that learning comes from outside authority wil likely have issues w initiative #lrnchat

Michael Sutton @VirtualMCS A1b Credibility is really important. In design we use SME’s a lot in live sessions. Eg.g Senior Bankers #lrnchat

Dawn Adams Miller @dawnladams 1b) we are all still struggling to shift from order takers to trusted partners. Just today my VP told me to set up a VC session. #lrnchat

Danielle Paradis @ebooks_dani When ppl believe learning happens to them they feel less agency #lrnchat

Tom Spiglanin @tomspiglanin @C4LPT #lrnchat Natural born learners. I get that. I think I am that, so makes sense to me. Many don’t want to invest…

alod @lodtrain Q1b) hmmm – Add both sources to your learning to Cater learning to audiences #lrnchat

Clark Quinn @Quinnovator a1) but afraid that learners may believe that learning is something that ‘happens to them’ #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Q1b Beliefs about SOURCE of learning: Implications for ourselves/our practice? #lrnchat
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lrnchat @lrnchat Q1b Beliefs about SOURCE of learning: Implications for ourselves/our practice? #lrnchat
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Dawn Adams Miller @dawnladams @JaneBozarth – Aint that the truth. After all they went to school so know it all. How hard can it be right? #lrnchat

Matthew Guyan @MattGuyan To quote a good book ‘Telling Ain’t Training #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Q1b Beliefs about SOURCE of learning: Implications for ourselves/our practice? #lrnchat

Michael Sutton @VirtualMCS I think that our learners ‘in the business’ often think authority as a source has no clue, it’s about what’s on the job #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth 1a Stakeholders often believe telling/presentation = ‘learning’ #lrnchat
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Clark Quinn @Quinnovator @C4LPT agreed, at least they TRY to make people learn #lrnchat

Herb Collins @herbRcollins Herb Collins Learning and Development Specialist with HP Vertica. #lrnchat

Jennifer Shamsy @jshamsy #lrnchat q1) I agree with others-Very little learning is not purposeful. You may sense the stimuli but you have to perceive and give meaning

Danielle Paradis @ebooks_dani The trades I work for tend to believe learning is authority-driven #lrnchat they prefer SMEs

alod @lodtrain Q1) Push vs Pull – depends on the WIFM #lrnchat

Jane Hart (C4LPT) @C4LPT @Quinnovator agreed – andt isn’t that what most corporate learning is all about – MAKING people learn #lrnchat
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Jane Hart (C4LPT) @C4LPT @Quinnovator agreed – andt isn’t that what most corporate learning is all about – MAKING people learn #lrnchat

Matthew Guyan @MattGuyan “@JaneBozarth: 1a I think mgmt/HR believe learning is ‘handed down’ by authority #lrnchat” > and because you are deficient in something

Dawn Adams Miller @dawnladams a1) Mostly authority driven I’m afraid. #lrnchat

Danielle Paradis @ebooks_dani Learners I know are split some subscribe to behaviour, others to cognitive and scaffolding #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth 1a Stakeholders often believe telling/presentation = ‘learning’ #lrnchat

Jane Hart (C4LPT) @C4LPT #lrnchat a1) some of us are born learners; some have learning thrust upon them
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alod @lodtrain “@C4LPT: #lrnchat a1) some of us are born learners; some have learning thrust upon them” or both sides work for lrners

Angel Green @LearnerAdvocate Angel, instructional strategist at Allen Interactions and mom of 3 crazed summer loving kiddos #lrnchat
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Clark Quinn @Quinnovator RT @C4LPT: #lrnchat a1) some of us are born learners; some have learning thrust upon them <🙂 but really, hard to *force* someone to learn

Michael Sutton @VirtualMCS A1a Source of learning: I think both are valid sources of learning. In my industry (Banking) both are common sources of learning #lrnchat

Jane Hart (C4LPT) @C4LPT #lrnchat a1) some of us are born learners; some have learning thrust upon them

Tom Spiglanin @tomspiglanin A1) I believe what works. Give me a hint, let me try it. If it works I’ll continue and experiment a bit more. Then I really learn #lrnchat

Clark Quinn @Quinnovator a1) to paraphrase Dorothy Parker, you can lead a learner to learning, but you can’t make ’em think #lrnchat
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Dina Moati @dinamoati

Clark Quinn @Quinnovator a1) to paraphrase Dorothy Parker, you can lead a learner to learning, but you can’t make ’em think #lrnchat

Danielle Paradis @ebooks_dani Q1a Learning is primarily constructed imo, but there is the base potential for learning inherent and so disability may inhibit. #lrnchat

Jennifer Shamsy @jshamsy @dinamoati ready for the firehose?🙂 #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Q1a What do you/Ls believe about SOURCE of learning? Handed down by authority, or acquired via evidence/reason? #lrnchat
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Clark Quinn @Quinnovator a1) learning is largely intentional and effortful #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth 1a I think mgmt/HR believe learning is ‘handed down’ by authority #lrnchat

alod @lodtrain Q1) Nature – taught parents/teachers v Nurture – develop ability to Learn and keep lrning #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Q1a What do you/Ls believe about SOURCE of learning? Handed down by authority, or acquired via evidence/reason? #lrnchat
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Tom Spiglanin @tomspiglanin @JaneBozarth The pool? The ducks? The quiet? Or the good drinks? (they are) #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth @dinamoati no we just started #lrnchat

Helen Blunden @ActivateLearn I learned about the issues with iPad and Webex training centre. #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Q1a What do you/Ls believe about SOURCE of learning? Handed down by authority, or acquired via evidence/reason? #lrnchat
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Dina Moati @dinamoati @jshamsy good to see you here Jen🙂 #lrnchat

Clark Quinn @Quinnovator a

Dina Moati @dinamoati hello everyone, I think I’m a bit late #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Q1a What do you/Ls believe about SOURCE of learning? Handed down by authority, or acquired via evidence/reason? #lrnchat

Angel Green @LearnerAdvocate Today I learned that it is now time for me to admit I can see better with readers. Oh the joy of becoming more mature #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth

Jennifer Shamsy @jshamsy Hello! This is my second #lrnchat .. Jennifer from Atlanta. Excited to learn about learning and read great insights🙂

Clark Quinn @Quinnovator Clark Quinn, L&D revolutionary, consultant/author/speaker, genial malcontent, Walnut Creek CA #lrnchat

Tom Spiglanin @tomspiglanin A

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth @VirtualMCS just in time, from the looks of it. Welcome. #lrnchat

Amar Dhaliwal @adhaliwal Hello #lrnchat. Amar from Saba joining from Redwood Shores, CA.

Clark Quinn @Quinnovator Oh boy, time for the memestream mayhem that is #lrnchat. Duck or, better yet, join! Welcome to new and returning participants.

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth @tomspiglanin oh we love Palm Desert. Enjoy. It’s not the heat, it’s the.. oh, wait… #lrnchat

Matthew Guyan @MattGuyan #lrnchat G’day I’m Matt an ID from Australia. It’s a beautiful Fri morning here

Danielle Paradis @ebooks_dani When I first heard about epistemology it took about a month for it to click #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth HEY LOOK JANE HART IS HERE! Yay! @c4lpt #lrnchat
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Tom Spiglanin @tomspiglanin RT @lrnchat Tonight Qs broken into 2 sections: part A= what are beliefs about ______ . Part B = implications for practice #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Tonight Qs are broken into 2 sections: part A= what are beliefs about ______ . Part B = implications for practice #lrnchat
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Tom Spiglanin @tomspiglanin Tom in a hotter-than-hades Palm Desert, CA, loving the learning I can squeeze in #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Tonight Qs are broken into 2 sections: part A= what are beliefs about ______ . Part B = implications for practice #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth Q

alod @lodtrain Q

Danielle Paradis @DaniParadis #lrnchat I’ve been studying research methods and learned a lot about Canada’s Tri-Council research policies this week.

Helen Blunden @ActivateLearn Hello everyone. Helen from Melbourne Aus! Producing for a virtual classroom at the moment! Will read feed and get in when I can. #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth HEY LOOK JANE HART IS HERE! Yay! @c4lpt #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth Jane, Raleigh-ish, trainingpersonIDerish, author, on fire lately about #ShowYourWork & Positive Dev!ance #lrnchat

Angel Green @LearnerAdvocate Angel, instructional strategist at Allen Interactions and mom of 3 crazed summer loving kiddos #lrnchat

alod @lodtrain IT Global Education “Clickity click” training and happy to b back @ #lrnchat

Danielle Paradis @DaniParadis #lrnchat Hello everyone! Taking my MA in Learning and technology. Develop vocational ed material as a day job!

lrnchat @lrnchat Q

Amar Dhaliwal @adhaliwal Key learning moment today – looking up the definition of epistemology!! #lrnchat

Jane Hart (C4LPT) @C4LPT Good to be joining in #lrnchat as I am in the US today having keynoted at #ICELW in NYC

lrnchat @lrnchat Tonight’s #lrnchat:”Learner beliefs about learning.” Based on Schommer article tinyurl.com/khwj7yw L=”Learner”
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lrnchat @lrnchat Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. Please introduce yourselves: WWWW. How have you been?
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lrnchat @lrnchat Q

lrnchat @lrnchat Tonight’s #lrnchat:”Learner beliefs about learning.” Based on Schommer article tinyurl.com/khwj7yw L=”Learner”
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lrnchat @lrnchat Tonight’s #lrnchat:”Learner beliefs about learning.” Based on Schommer article tinyurl.com/khwj7yw L=”Learner”
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Tom Spiglanin @tomspiglanin It’s been a wonky afternoon, looking forward to as much of tonight’s chat as I can #lrnchat

Jane Bozarth @JaneBozarth @jaycross This was a favorite piece from grad school Invited author but don’t know if we’ll see her #lrnchat

lrnchat @lrnchat Tonight’s #lrnchat:”Learner beliefs about learning.” Based on Schommer article tinyurl.com/khwj7yw L=”Learner”

lrnchat @lrnchat Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. Please introduce yourselves: WWWW. How have you been?