Transcript 9 May 2013 Big Data (w/ guest Ellen Wagner)

08:31:19 pm lrnchat: Hello everyone and welcome to tonight’s #lrnchat on #bigdata. How have you been?
08:31:42 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat NOW. 90 mins of rapid tweets. Join or duck and cover, tweeps!
08:32:01 pm kelly_smith01: RT @edwsonoma: did I break the twitter? #lrnchat
08:32:21 pm JD_Dillon: The power of the #lrnchat has overwhelmed the Twitter!
08:32:24 pm OhioInked: @lrnchat great! #lrnchat
08:32:33 pm lodtrain: #lrnchat glad to be here clickity click IT training
08:32:40 pm mdpistilli: For the next 90 mins or so I’m chatting on #learninganalytics with @edwsonoma – join the convo at #lrnchat!
08:32:54 pm lrnchat: Please introduce yourself: WWWW, special interests, etc. #lrnchat
08:32:54 pm JaneBozarth: Oh dear we broke Twitter. Thank goodness for duct tape. #lrnchat
08:32:55 pm kelly_smith01: I am on a coud in keeping with the theme #lrnchat
08:33:18 pm odguru: You need educatin’! join #lrnchat where we’re living under the sword of data!
08:33:24 pm JaneBozarth: @edwsonoma Hello Dr Wagner . Don’t forget the #lrnchat tag.
08:33:25 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Please introduce yourself: WWWW, special interests, etc. #lrnchat
08:34:15 pm JaneBozarth: Jane, Raleigh, home from 2 week vacay. all up in the social media/social learning/antisocial pranks #lrnchat
08:34:15 pm NancySlawski: RT @lrnchat Tonight! “Living Under the Sword of Data” with guest Ellen Wagner. http://t.co/TeXrhQDnZ5 #lrnchat
(http://t.co/nDqPjLDZkm)
08:34:18 pm JD_Dillon: JD from Orlando (aka the town currently hosting @LnDDave), learning strategist, http://t.co/SpKyXQ6kTf partner #lrnchat
08:34:25 pm edwsonoma: @JaneBozarth #lrnchat will do! hello all
08:34:27 pm JaneBozarth: @kelly_smith01 Oh good you’re here. #lrnchat
08:34:35 pm LearnerAdvocate: Hello #lrnchat Angel Green, senior instructional strategist at Allen Interactions excited to be able to join tonight!
08:34:39 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, working on a learnin’ project finally #lrnchat
08:34:40 pm criticallearner: Hey #lrnchat David Glow, Tampa, FL joining after a long absence from the best chat on twitter.
08:34:43 pm odguru: Christy, in Guelph Canada, love and live all things measurement #lrnchat.
08:34:55 pm SeanPutman1: Hey all been a while, Sean from Detroit #lrnchat
08:35:00 pm mdpistilli: Matt Pistilli, Purdue, research scientist looking at analytics and student success. #lrnchat
08:35:01 pm cammybean: #lrnchat The week is certainly better with @edwsonoma in the house!
08:35:02 pm lrnchat: Q0 We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:35:04 pm coffeechugbooks: #lrnchat Aaron from Bettendorf, Iowa and I am a gifted Ed teacher
08:35:33 pm JaneBozarth: Everyone please say hello to @edwsonoma Ellen Wagner , our special guest tonight. She’s real smart. She knows what “E” equals.#lrnchat
08:35:35 pm SeanPutman1: RT @lrnchat: Q0 We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:35:58 pm kelly_smith01: @JaneBozarth I have been off grid for a day or so. #lrnchat
08:36:11 pm edwsonoma: awww, thnx @cammybean Hi all #lrnchat thnx for nice welcome @JaneBozarth
08:36:24 pm OhioInked: #lrnchat Learned how to manage my expressions during a 4 hour Cisco WebEx video conference. Lol
08:36:25 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat Living Under the Sword of Data vs The Burden of Knowing. Wonder which is more of a challenge?
08:36:28 pm JD_Dillon: RT @lrnchat: Q0 We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:36:32 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q0 We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:36:44 pm JaneBozarth: @kelly_smith01 We’ve missed you some in #lrnchat lately too
08:36:51 pm mdpistilli: Q1 Compelling stories can be told with pictures and a relatively narrow focus even if lots of info about the topic exists. #lrnchat
08:36:55 pm cammybean: #lrnchat I’ll be joining as soon as I finish reading tonight’s chapters of Charlotte’s Web (of Big Data)…
08:36:58 pm kelly_smith01: Q0 Reading a poorly written RFP for an LRS #lrnchat
08:37:02 pm odguru: @JaneBozarth @edwsonoma Good evening!@ A priviledge.#lrnchat
08:37:28 pm JaneBozarth: @odguru @JD_Dillon wont’ be the first time #lrnchat
08:37:33 pm JD_Dillon: A0) Helping others learn the value of collaboration and social performance support this week! #lrnchat
08:37:50 pm criticallearner: Q0 #lrnchat I learned LMS vendors are resistant to provide recorded webcasts to potential clients.
08:37:56 pm SeanPutman1: Today I learned about creating a GUI to display LRS data #lrnchat
08:37:57 pm lrnchat: Q1 What does big data mean to you? #lrnchat
08:38:02 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q0 We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:38:05 pm odguru: I learned cadence is king in the agile new world. Context still good too… #lrnchat
08:38:22 pm mdpistilli: RT @odguru: I learned cadence is king in the agile new world. Context still good too… #lrnchat
08:38:25 pm NancySlawski: Welcome @edwsonoma to #lrnchat
08:38:25 pm JD_Dillon: RT @lrnchat: Q1 What does big data mean to you? #lrnchat
08:38:27 pm edwsonoma: “Data is a new class of economic asset, like currency or gold” (Steve Lohr, NY Times 11 Feb 2012). #lrnchat
08:38:33 pm lodtrain: Q0) #lrnchat Learned that feedback is not only a gift but sometimes a learning wake up call
08:38:33 pm SeanPutman1: RT @lrnchat: Q1 What does big data mean to you? #lrnchat
08:38:45 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q1 What does big data mean to you? #lrnchat
08:38:51 pm JaneBozarth: @odguru say more? #lrnchat
08:38:58 pm odguru: Q1: Big data is a marketing way of saying `we are creating a lot of records.`#lrnchat
08:39:05 pm NancySlawski: Do share RT @JD_Dillon: A0) Helping others learn the value of collaboration and social performance support this week! #lrnchat
08:39:10 pm criticallearner: RT @edwsonoma: “Data is a new class of economic asset, like currency or gold” (Steve Lohr, NY Times 11 Feb 2012). #lrnchat
08:39:15 pm coffeechugbooks: @lrnchat A0 I learned how amazing kids are when given platform to pursue passions #lrnchat #choose2matter
08:39:15 pm MBS_learning: Notice: Will be joining #lrnchat =] be aware of the overflowing of discussion to come
08:39:19 pm lodtrain: Q1) Big data is all, to education, connecting and healthcare… #lrnchat
08:39:24 pm kelly_smith01: And she has cool pets. #lrnchat
08:39:39 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q1 What does big data mean to you? #lrnchat
08:39:45 pm JaneBozarth: q0 learned more about the possibilities of 3d printing #lrnchat
08:39:46 pm mdpistilli: A1 Big data: opportunity to examine phenomena (for me, stdt success) from angles beyond the normal ones, looking for rels & imptnce #lrnchat
08:39:49 pm SeanPutman1: Q1) For me big data is real time data from applications #lrnchat
08:40:00 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q1 What does big data mean to you? #lrnchat
08:40:09 pm dinamoati: RT @coffeechugbooks: @lrnchat A0 I learned how amazing kids are when given platform to pursue passions #lrnchat #choose2matter
08:40:15 pm odguru: @JaneBozarth i.e. Pacing and chunking the work to get the right end user input without bogging down. #lrnchat
08:40:37 pm edwsonoma: 5% data comes structured, in columns and rows. 95% is unstructured, from blogs, emails, tweets, photos, phone calls #lrnchat
08:40:39 pm criticallearner: Q1 #lrnchat Bigdata means who we are and what we do is a product being sold every day.
08:40:50 pm NancySlawski: Q0. I learned some techy lrng stuff… #lrnchat
08:40:55 pm SeanPutman1: Q1) It is also about creating patterns from inputs and using them to provide better assistance #lrnchat
08:41:06 pm LearnerAdvocate: #lrnchat – hello @edwsonoma
08:41:14 pm JaneBozarth: RT @edwsonoma: 5% data comes structured, in columns and rows. 95% is unstructured, from blogs, emails, tweets, photos, phone calls #lrnchat
08:41:15 pm lodtrain: RT @SeanPutman1: Q1) It is also about creating patterns from inputs and using them to provide better assistance #lrnchat
08:41:25 pm dinamoati: A1: current data supported by reliable and accurate facts
#lrnchat
08:41:39 pm criticallearner: @seanputman1 Any resources to share on this? #lrnchat
08:41:55 pm criticallearner: RT @edwsonoma: 5% data comes structured, in columns and rows. 95% is unstructured, from blogs, emails, tweets, photos, phone calls #lrnchat
08:42:01 pm odguru: @JaneBozarth For goal attainment in constant change, have to be self aware – how fast should I go, what`s next, who`s coming. #lrnchat
08:42:01 pm JaneBozarth: @SeanPutman1 well said #lrnchat
08:42:15 pm OhioInked: Q1). Big data means there’s a lot of information out there that someone is obtaining & maintaining. #lrnchat
08:42:20 pm JaneBozarth: ‏Big data: RT @SeanPutman143s
Q1) It is also about creating patterns from inputs and using them to provide better assistance #lrnchat
08:42:22 pm edwsonoma: In 2011 global output of data estimated at 1.8 zettabytes. *each ZB = 1 billion TBs. #lrnchat
08:42:30 pm JaneBozarth: @SeanPutman1 …and good to see you again. #lrnchat
08:42:34 pm JD_Dillon: A1) Big data reminds me how far behind the workplace is in leveraging analytics while social networks and Google lead the way. #lrnchat
08:42:42 pm MBS_learning: A1) Big data is an overflow of information from here and there conveniently in one place #lrnchat
08:42:42 pm mdpistilli: Crazy huge number. RT @edwsonoma: In 2011 global output of data estimated at 1.8 zettabytes. *each ZB = 1 billion TBs. #lrnchat
08:42:42 pm lodtrain: #Q1) #lrnchat How about Lrnchat on Twitter and Twitter being big data to share and connect us all
08:42:44 pm trainingleader: Hello #lrnchat! It’s been a while since I have participated! Good to see it still going strong!
08:42:45 pm criticallearner: Q1 #lrnchat BigData means that all the data feeding bigdata will fuel more bigdata #exponentialgrowth
08:42:55 pm odguru: RT @lodtrain: Q0) #lrnchat Learned that feedback is not only a gift but sometimes a learning wake up call
08:43:05 pm SeanPutman1: @JaneBozarth You to Jane thanks #lrnchat
08:43:34 pm JaneBozarth: @trainingleader Hi Maureen good to see you. #lrnchat
08:43:35 pm Dan_Jacques_LD: A1) Big Data is large amounts of data sets that can be difficult to process in traditional means #lrnchat
08:43:36 pm JD_Dillon: A1) Big data is not a replacement for observation, skill, and experience. Brings to light new opportunities and connections. #lrnchat
08:43:42 pm SeanPutman1: @criticallearner Right now I don’t, it is a project we are working on and will be blogging about soon #lrnchat
08:44:00 pm mdpistilli: A1 pt 2 Big data is elegant and ugly all at the same time. Informative and overwhelming. A realm of untapped knowledge #lrnchat
08:44:07 pm JaneBozarth: When your boss etc mentions big data, what do THEY think it means? #lrnchat
08:44:08 pm trainingleader: RT @edwsonoma: 5% data comes structured, in columns and rows. 95% is unstructured, from blogs, emails, tweets, photos, phone calls #lrnchat
08:44:11 pm edwsonoma: Not all data is big. Big data refers to data sets that are beyond huge. Massive.so big we dont need inferential statistics #lrnchat
08:44:29 pm LearnerAdvocate: A1) Big data – feared by Instructional Designers, heralded by organizational leaders #lrnchat
08:44:31 pm edwsonoma: great question! RT @JaneBozarth: When your boss etc mentions big data, what do THEY think it means? #lrnchat
08:44:36 pm wallyboston: RT @edwsonoma: 5% data comes structured, in columns and rows. 95% is unstructured, from blogs, emails, tweets, photos, phone calls #lrnchat
08:44:40 pm JD_Dillon: A1) Big data can easily overwhelm the small-minded. #lrnchat
08:44:42 pm odguru: @OhioInked @OhioInked Obtaining, maintaining, sense- and meaning making – new skills and the new art and science of data driven biz #lrnchat
08:45:20 pm mdpistilli: And the big minded too. So much to comprehend for anyone. RT @JD_Dillon: A1) Big data can easily overwhelm the small-minded. #lrnchat
08:45:27 pm edwsonoma: RT @LearnerAdvocate: A1) Big data – feared by Instructional Designers heralded by org leaders #lrnchat <will force accountability, for sure>
08:45:27 pm JaneBozarth: @JD_Dillon lol #lrnchat
08:45:28 pm EpistelosRE: MT Good question @JaneBozarth When your boss etc mentions big data, what do THEY think it means? #lrnchat
08:45:28 pm criticallearner: @janebozarth Q1 #lrnchat Bosses think “automated decisions and predictive analytics” almost invariably in my experience #justaintso
08:45:39 pm TrainerBrew: RT @JD_Dillon: A1) Big data can easily overwhelm the small-minded. #lrnchat
08:45:41 pm lodtrain: Q1) #lrnchat we need to connect the various systems to help us organize the data – ex global HR data for an organization
08:45:52 pm odguru: @edwsonoma The physics of data – like space the rules change at the level of `big` #lrnchat
08:45:56 pm JaneBozarth: @mdpistilli ‘elegant and ugly’ — great — #lrnchat
08:45:58 pm edwsonoma: love RT @TrainerBrew: RT @JD_Dillon: A1) Big data can easily overwhelm the small-minded. #lrnchat
08:46:09 pm EpistelosRE: I’m increasing thinking same @criticallearner Q1 #lrnchat Bigdata means who we are and what we do is a product being sold every day.
08:46:26 pm trainingleader: How many organizations can actually produce Big Data? #lrnchat
08:46:28 pm odguru: RT @lodtrain: Q1) #lrnchat we need to connect the various systems to help us organize the data – ex global HR data for an organization
08:46:42 pm odguru: RT @criticallearner: @janebozarth Q1 #lrnchat Bosses think “automated decisions and predictive analytics” almost invariably in my experience #justaintso
08:46:47 pm mdpistilli: Fab question. RT @trainingleader: How many organizations can actually produce Big Data? #lrnchat
08:46:52 pm JaneBozarth: RT @criticallearner: @janebozarth Q1 #lrnchat Bosses think “automated decisions and predictive analytics” almost invariably in my experience #justaintso
08:47:02 pm JaneBozarth: RT @trainingleader: How many organizations can actually produce Big Data? #lrnchat
08:47:02 pm dinamoati: RT @JD_Dillon: A1) Big data can easily overwhelm the small-minded. #lrnchat
08:47:08 pm audioswhite: Hi all. A1) big data is not just the oceans of data generated & collected, but the tools/business that analyze & “make sense” of it #lrnchat
08:47:13 pm SeanPutman1: @trainingleader I think most, can it is simply where you look and what you need to get from it #lrnchat
08:47:24 pm lrnchat: Q2 What are best uses/possibilities of big data? #lrnchat
08:47:30 pm odguru: RT @EpistelosRE: I’m increasing thinking same @criticallearner Q1 #lrnchat Bigdata means who we are and what we do is a product being sold every day.
08:47:41 pm criticallearner: RT @trainingleader: How many organizations can actually produce Big Data? #lrnchat >All CAN, many don’t (harvest and cross ref issues)
08:47:46 pm edwsonoma: but big data is more than that. its behavioral tracking, machine learning, neural networks. making sense of the clickstream #lrnchat
08:47:47 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q2 What are best uses/possibilities of big data? #lrnchat
08:47:49 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q2 What are best uses/possibilities of big data? #lrnchat
08:47:57 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q2 What are best uses/possibilities of big data? #lrnchat
08:48:06 pm JD_Dillon: A1) Big Data ≠ spreadsheets #lrnchat
08:48:12 pm JD_Dillon: RT @lrnchat: Q2 What are best uses/possibilities of big data? #lrnchat
08:48:15 pm SeanPutman1: RT @lrnchat: Q2 What are best uses/possibilities of big data? #lrnchat
08:48:15 pm mdpistilli: @edwsonoma Some of those are #bigdata, but some are means of dealing with them, right? #lrnchat
08:48:31 pm changeguerilla: A1: Most organizations can’t produce small data let alone big data! #lrnchat
08:48:58 pm odguru: #lrnchat Best possible use is that it makes humans more functional.
08:48:59 pm JD_Dillon: A2) Great opportunity to leverage data to help people understand their own performance and improve. #lrnchat
08:49:00 pm JaneBozarth: @edwsonoma ‘sensemaking’ may be the word of the night.. #lrnchat
08:49:08 pm lodtrain: Q2) Best uses – alerting folks during critical events #lrnchat i.e. hurricanes…
08:49:14 pm SeanPutman1: Q2)That really depends on the outcome needed, I am finding a great use in getting people the right help at the right time #lrnchat
08:49:17 pm dcbphd: @mdpistilli @jd_dillon I would suggest that it embiggens the small-minded beyond their capabilities to understand and use it well. #lrnchat
08:49:28 pm JaneBozarth: RT @changeguerilla: A1: Most organizations can’t produce small data let alone big data! #lrnchat
08:49:32 pm OhioInked: A2). Possibilities are endless, if, in fact, we can filter, understand & apply it to meet needs. #lrnchat
08:49:36 pm edwsonoma: @mdpistilli yes. big data has emerged now because we have tech and tools for keeping track. #lrnchat
08:49:47 pm OhioInked: RT @JaneBozarth: @edwsonoma ‘sensemaking’ may be the word of the night.. #lrnchat
08:50:12 pm criticallearner: Q2 #lrnchat Best uses of bigdata IMO is statistical evidence from life vs “expert punditry” (a dig on the election experts vs N. Silver)
08:50:15 pm edwsonoma: RT @OhioInked: A2). Possibilities of (big data) endless, if, in fact, we can filter, understand & apply it to meet needs. #lrnchat
08:50:15 pm lodtrain: Q2) Best uses – innovation – working together to improve ideas from sifting through all the data #lrnchat
08:50:31 pm TriciaDanielsen: RT @edwsonoma: 5% data comes structured, in columns and rows. 95% is unstructured, from blogs, emails, tweets, photos, phone calls #lrnchat
08:50:41 pm kelly_smith01: A source of information for performance support, needs analysis, orgnizational development #lrnchat
08:50:43 pm JD_Dillon: A2) BIG data opportunities can force organizations that still live in spreadsheets (aka small data) to get their crap together. #lrnchat
08:50:45 pm CaliforniaKara: Q2 Big data (gov level) in your phone/car (GPS), on your TV (Weather Chan). @WhiteHouse liberated more today http://t.co/k91ciHVLIM #lrnchat
08:50:46 pm OhioInked: RT @lodtrain: Q2) Best uses – innovation – working together to improve ideas from sifting through all the data #lrnchat
08:50:47 pm criticallearner: RT @edwsonoma: @mdpistilli yes. big data has emerged now because we have tech and tools for keeping track. #lrnchat
08:50:59 pm SeanPutman1: RT @OhioInked: A2). Possibilities are endless, if, in fact, we can filter, understand & apply it to meet needs. #lrnchat
08:51:00 pm atomic_learning: From @bradflickinger Why my school uses Atomic Learning – reason 46 http://t.co/kB8MQ9zu7B #edtech #lrnchat @mlearning
08:51:08 pm odguru: @changeguerilla IMO we are seeing a class of those who produce it and now of those who can mine/exploit with the substrate rising. #lrnchat
08:51:10 pm edwsonoma: Most of us are use statistics for reporting. Analytics are for obtaining actionable insight. #lrnchat
08:51:11 pm MBS_learning: A2) Big data has been helpful in determining the future needs and strategic planning #lrnchat
08:51:24 pm mdpistilli: A2 Understanding situations, looking for new solutions, ways to improve effectiveness and efficiency. #lrnchat
08:51:38 pm mdpistilli: Truth! RT @edwsonoma: Most of us are use statistics for reporting. Analytics are for obtaining actionable insight. #lrnchat
08:51:42 pm criticallearner: A2 #lrnchat Quantified self comes to mind. Some of the data I can now collect give me insights that expose important things.
08:51:46 pm SeanPutman1: RT @edwsonoma: Most of us are use statistics for reporting. Analytics are for obtaining actionable insight. #lrnchat
08:51:51 pm lodtrain: Q2) How about streaming video learning via youtube, netflix #lrnchat
08:52:05 pm JaneBozarth: @edwsonoma Did you see @SeanPutman1 comment ‘depends on outcome needed’? Want to say more? #lrnchat
08:52:14 pm Dan_Jacques_LD: A2) Lots of possibilities, maybe too many, got to be careful and pick what you need or you may get lost on the way to your goal #lrnchat
08:52:15 pm cammybean: @edwsonoma so is big data also Big Brother? #lrnchat
08:52:22 pm kelly_smith01: Source to bild business cases and simulation #lrnchat
08:52:24 pm odguru: @edwsonoma Analytics=Indicators that allow you to evaluate and adjust strategy and tactics #lrnchat
08:52:26 pm edwsonoma: RT @criticallearner: A2 #lrnchat Quantified self comes to mind. Some of the data I can now collect give me insights that expose important things.
08:52:29 pm OhioInked: A2.1). The key , I believe, lies in the intent & motivation. Will it be harnessed for good or (over dramatic pause) evil. #lrnchat
08:52:30 pm CaliforniaKara: Q2 The key point with big data is if it’s not machine and human readable, it’s crap. #lrnchat #garbageingarbageout
08:52:36 pm odguru: RT @criticallearner: A2 #lrnchat Quantified self comes to mind. Some of the data I can now collect give me insights that expose important things.
08:52:44 pm mdpistilli: Most nights. And days. Any day w/ big data, really. RT @JaneBozarth: @edwsonoma ‘sensemaking’ may be the word of the night.. #lrnchat
08:52:48 pm NancySlawski: RT @criticallearner: @janebozarth Q1 #lrnchat Bosses think “automated decisions and predictive analytics” almost invariably in my experience #justaintso
08:52:57 pm JaneBozarth: +1 RT @edwsonoma Most of us are use statistics for reporting. Analytics are for obtaining actionable insight. #lrnchat
08:53:08 pm Dave_Ferguson: I’m really looking forward to big data so other orgs can have the same impact, be wise as banks. #lrnchat
08:53:17 pm SeanPutman1: @cammybean I sure think it can be perceived like that #lrnchat
08:53:19 pm criticallearner: @edwsonoma A2 #lrnchat Actionable insight I think is the key to big data. Collect and analyze in a way so you CAN act vs analysis paralysis
08:53:22 pm OhioInked: RT @JaneBozarth: +1 RT @edwsonoma Most of us are use statistics for reporting. Analytics are for obtaining actionable insight. #lrnchat
08:53:27 pm JD_Dillon: A2) Big data can suggest relationships between seemingly unrelated actions/ and behaviors. #lrnchat
08:53:27 pm LearnerAdvocate: #lrnchat 63% of respondents to IBM survey indicated that big data and analytics is creating a competitive advantage for their organizations.
08:53:29 pm NancySlawski: RT @LearnerAdvocate: A1) Big data – feared by Instructional Designers, heralded by organizational leaders #lrnchat
08:53:40 pm criticallearner: RT @californiakara: Q2 The key point with big data is if it’s not machine and human readable, it’s crap. #lrnchat #garbageingarbageout
08:54:32 pm JaneBozarth: Wowza #lrnchat tonight is rockin’ with smart folks —
08:54:42 pm JD_Dillon: RT @JaneBozarth: +1 RT @edwsonoma Most of us are use statistics for reporting. Analytics are for obtaining actionable insight. #lrnchat
08:54:43 pm NancySlawski: One can dream. RT @Dave_Ferguson: I’m really looking forward to big data so other orgs can have the same impact, be wise as banks. #lrnchat
08:54:46 pm criticallearner: RT @jd_dillon: A2) Big data can suggest relationships between seemingly unrelated actions/ and behaviors. #lrnchat
08:54:49 pm lodtrain: Q2) How about LinkedIn as big data, millions connecting job searching…. #lrnchat
08:54:53 pm SeanPutman1: RT @CaliforniaKara: Q2 The key point with big data is if its not machine and human readable, its crap #lrnchat #garbageingarbageout #lrnchat
08:55:02 pm OhioInked: RT @JD_Dillon: A2) Big data can suggest relationships between seemingly unrelated actions/ and behaviors. #lrnchat
08:55:07 pm mdpistilli: A2 Actionable insight is gained – and must be acted upon. Else, why act upon the data to begin with? #lrnchat
08:55:07 pm odguru: @cellodav Through assessment discovered: gifts, personality, drives, thru analytics, things I love, tribes I need, meaning #lrnchat
08:55:08 pm JaneBozarth: RT @CaliforniaKara: Q2 The key point with big data is if it’s not machine and human readable, it’s crap. #lrnchat #garbageingarbageout
08:55:21 pm edwsonoma: one of the litle secrets of analytics work – if u dont know what u are looking 4 before you start u will never know if you find it. #lrnchat
08:55:54 pm JaneBozarth: @CaliforniaKara hey you #lrnchat
08:56:07 pm odguru: @Dave_Ferguson For sure and big data is so rarely inappropriately handled and used what could go wrong? #lrnchat
08:56:15 pm edwsonoma: RT @criticallearner: RT @jd_dillon: A2) Big data can suggest relationships between seemingly unrelated actions/ and behaviors. #lrnchat
08:56:18 pm lrnchat: Q3 What are limits/misuses of big data? #lrnchat
08:56:20 pm CaliforniaKara: @JaneBozarth ‘sup. Happened to be on Twitter, and wandered into the #lrnchat bar.
08:56:34 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat 47% of all statistics are made up. #statshumor
08:56:42 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q3 What are limits/misuses of big data? #lrnchat
08:56:44 pm Dave_Ferguson: -@edwsonoma That makes Big Data an awful lot like “improving performance,” then. #lrnchat
08:57:01 pm SeanPutman1: RT @lrnchat: Q3 What are limits/misuses of big data? #lrnchat
08:57:02 pm lirons: @criticallearner Knowledge without data is nothing. The issue is what the units of measurement are for data you want to analyze. #lrnchat
08:57:11 pm JD_Dillon: RT @lrnchat: Q3 What are limits/misuses of big data? #lrnchat
08:57:16 pm edwsonoma: @Dave_Ferguson why, yes. #lrnchat
08:57:17 pm towittertoo: RT @lrnchat: Q3 What are limits/misuses of big data? #lrnchat
08:57:19 pm OhioInked: “@criticallearner: #lrnchat 47% of all statistics are made up. #statshumor”. I believe Abe Lincoln said that on Facebook. Lol
08:57:24 pm kelly_smith01: I have found the definitions of Big Data vary as much as the results of a Rorschach test. #lrnchat
08:57:29 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q3 What are limits/misuses of big data? #lrnchat
08:57:46 pm SeanPutman1: Q3)One limitation is it is only as good as the analysis that comes from it #lrnchat
08:57:54 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat A3 Substituting human intelligence for artificial stupidity (we’ve all seen bad ads and Amazon recommendations)
08:57:56 pm Dave_Ferguson: @kelly_smith01 Clearly you have a future in Big Data consulting.😉 #lrnchat
08:58:00 pm lodtrain: Q3) #lrnchat Hidden bias in twitter data http://t.co/5UuTuG9GTy
08:58:00 pm JD_Dillon: A3) Data cannot replace judgment, leadership, effort, culture … It supports a strong, people-focused organization. #lrnchat
08:58:09 pm lirons: @criticallearner @edwsonoma Data has been around since we began to count things. It is not a new class of anyting. #lrnchat
08:58:19 pm JaneBozarth: @OhioInked @criticallearner he was retweeting Socrates #lrnchat
08:58:24 pm edwsonoma: @kelly_smith01 yes, but think instead about why numbers like that would matter to you #lrnchat
08:58:26 pm CaliforniaKara: Strive to be data-informed, not data-driven. Don’t throw the baby (experience, best practices) out with the bathwater (numbers). #lrnchat
08:58:27 pm lodtrain: RT @OhioInked: “@criticallearner: #lrnchat 47% of all statistics are made up. #statshumor”. I believe Abe Lincoln said that on Facebook. Lol
08:58:38 pm audioswhite: Actionable insight should be the goal of all analytics. Bigdata not necessarily required. #lrnchat
08:58:54 pm JD_Dillon: A3) Data can create too many assumed cause/effect relationships (ex: many social ads that assume my interests). #lrnchat
08:58:57 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat A3 Assuming big data will result in better analysis (more data doesn’t mean better data, garbage in) or analysis (logic errors)
08:59:15 pm criticallearner: RT @kelly_smith01: I have found the definitions of Big Data vary as much as the results of a Rorschach test. #lrnchat
08:59:28 pm mdpistilli: A3 Limits/misuses revolve around the obligation to do s’thing once you’ve learned s’thing. Do you act? How? Who else is involved? #lrnchat
08:59:32 pm edwsonoma: @audioswhite that’s right. we should use ALL our data. and it doesnt necessarily need to be huge OR transactional. #lrnchat
08:59:39 pm JaneBozarth: AMEN MT @CaliforniaKara Strive to be data-informed, not data-driven. #lrnchat
08:59:53 pm criticallearner: @ohioinked The problem with the internet is that you can’t verify who originally said something – Albert Einstein #lrnchat
08:59:59 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: AMEN MT @CaliforniaKara Strive to be data-informed, not data-driven. #lrnchat
09:00:05 pm OhioInked: A3). I believe someone said garbage in, garbage out. Isn’t big data limited by the quality & accuracy of the input/info? #lrnchat
09:00:09 pm criticallearner: RT @jd_dillon: A3) Data cannot replace judgment, leadership, effort, culture … It supports a strong, people-focused organization. #lrnchat
09:00:11 pm SeanPutman1: A3) Assuming big data will “solve” the problem, data for data’s sake #lrnchat
09:00:12 pm TrainerBrew: RT @CaliforniaKara Strive to be data-informed, not data-driven. #lrnchat
09:00:13 pm edwsonoma: @mdpistilli ahhhh Dr. Campbell’s “Burden of Knowing” #lrnchat
09:00:13 pm lodtrain: Q3) Big issue can be folks that dont have the skills to interpret the data – great as a future skill set #lrnchat
09:00:22 pm SeanPutman1: RT @JaneBozarth: AMEN MT @CaliforniaKara Strive to be data-informed, not data-driven. #lrnchat
09:00:24 pm JaneBozarth: q3 Life in HR has taught me how data can be used for evil. Now possibly bigger evil. #lrnchat
09:00:24 pm dinamoati: RT @JaneBozarth: AMEN MT @CaliforniaKara Strive to be data-informed, not data-driven. #lrnchat
09:00:34 pm MLCmath: Miss it? DAILY FREEBIE FROM MLC – Data Analysis: Graphs http://t.co/l4Lt3d2wNS #3rdchat #edchat #lrnchat #teachchat #mathchat
09:00:35 pm edwsonoma: RT @SeanPutman1: RT @JaneBozarth: AMEN MT @CaliforniaKara Strive to be data-informed, not data-driven. #lrnchat
09:00:36 pm MBS_learning: I second that @JD_Dillon A3) Data cannot replace judgment, leadership, effort, culture …#lrnchat
09:00:40 pm BrianSMcGowan: T1 any thoughts about how ideas of #bigdata impact quantitative vs qualitative analyses? Or planned vs unplanned analyses? #lrnchat
09:00:55 pm odguru: RT @JaneBozarth: AMEN MT @CaliforniaKara Strive to be data-informed, not data-driven. #lrnchat
09:00:56 pm mdpistilli: @edwsonoma Mine too. =) We pub’d in ERO on it this week… http://t.co/w08kYvtmtN #lrnchat
09:01:03 pm criticallearner: RT @janebozarth: q3 Life in HR has taught me how data can be used for evil. Now possibly bigger evil. #lrnchat
09:01:14 pm edwsonoma: RT @JaneBozarth: q3 Life in HR has taught me how data can be used for evil. Now possibly bigger evil. #lrnchat
09:01:18 pm JaneBozarth: Can we make “IT Tickets Closed” the poster child for q3? #lrnchat
09:01:19 pm dinamoati: RT @MBS_learning: I second that @JD_Dillon A3) Data cannot replace judgment, leadership, effort, culture …#lrnchat
09:01:49 pm odguru: @XIIBarBlues Pace finding both at the individual and group levels are really key to attaining goals. #lrnchat
09:01:51 pm kelly_smith01: Misuse of big data example: Using non-vetted data – using data because its there #lrnchat
09:01:51 pm JaneBozarth: RT @SeanPutman1: A3) Assuming big data will “solve” the problem, data for data’s sake #lrnchat
09:02:00 pm OhioInked: “@JD_Dillon A3) Data can’t replace culture. It supports strong, people-focused organization. True! Culture isn’t really tangible. #lrnchat”
09:02:05 pm odguru: RT @MBS_learning: I second that @JD_Dillon A3) Data cannot replace judgment, leadership, effort, culture …#lrnchat
09:02:18 pm stipton: Biggest truth statement ever. RT @janebozarth: q3 Life in HR has taught me how data can be used for evil. Now possibly bigger evil. #lrnchat
09:02:23 pm BrianSMcGowan: T1 big data may not be ‘data’ per se…may be few 0’s and 1’s…may be about thoughts/opinions/experiences #lrnchat
09:02:24 pm SeanPutman1: @JaneBozarth Some of that could be perception, it could be used to inform and improve #lrnchat
09:02:32 pm edwsonoma: @BrianSMcGowan think about using latent semantic analysis to quantify previously qualitative interpretive tasks…#lrnchat
09:02:35 pm JaneBozarth: Q3 Already seen Exec decision to turn off learner self-reporting in LMS #lrnchat
09:02:38 pm NancySlawski: I’ll second that. Sounds like u r enjoying LMS land. RT @JaneBozarth: Can we make “IT Tickets Closed” the poster child for q3? #lrnchat
09:02:49 pm OhioInked: RT @SeanPutman1: @JaneBozarth Some of that could be perception, it could be used to inform and improve #lrnchat
09:02:50 pm criticallearner: A3 #lrnchat Data ownership and ethics throw a few flags up in this arena, eh? (Target outing a pregnant girl…)
09:03:10 pm LearnerAdvocate: Q3 -Data kept on what I do as a consumer is disconcerting. Employers analyizing every move? Not doing anything wrong, but still..#lrnchat
09:03:15 pm bsandie: #lrnchat Q2& Q3) key steps: what questions, patterns, etc are you trying to answer; collect data; analyze data; make decision using data
09:03:19 pm JaneBozarth: @NancySlawski ‘g’ key popped off my work laptop. IT gave me .. a new laptop. ticket closed! #lrnchat
09:03:21 pm Dave_Ferguson: @janebozarth IT tkts closed – only if documented on the TPS reports. #lrnchat
09:03:31 pm NancySlawski: Sad but true. RT @JaneBozarth: q3 Life in HR has taught me how data can be used for evil. Now possibly bigger evil. #lrnchat
09:03:41 pm edwsonoma: yes. and student profiling. RT @criticallearner: A3 #lrnchat Data ownership and ethics throw a few flags up
09:03:59 pm criticallearner: @seanputman1 @JaneBozarth Could be used to inform and improve, but I almost always see “rank and weed” #lrnchat
09:04:07 pm JD_Dillon: A3) Big data in the hands of few is like no data at all. Transparent data leads to buy-in, collaboration, and learning. #lrnchat
09:04:16 pm kelly_smith01: I am reviewing an RFP for a LMS. The writers think they understand Big Data #lrnchat
09:04:33 pm BrianSMcGowan: @OhioInked …conclusions may be limited, but analyses and contextualization (and humility) may allow new hypotheses to form #lrnchat
09:04:35 pm iwannt: RT @lrnchat: #Lrnchat tonight! “Living Under the Sword of Data” w guest Ellen Wagner. http://t.co/fMLfmzZnUo
09:04:38 pm OhioInked: “@NancySlawski: Sad but true. @JaneBozarth: q3 Life in HR has taught me how data can be used for evil. #lrnchat”. This goes back to culture.
09:04:43 pm SeanPutman1: RT @JD_Dillon: A3)Big data in the hands of few is like no data at all. Transparent data leads to buy-in collaboration, and learning #lrnchat
09:04:45 pm odguru: @OhioInked @JD_Dillon Culture isn’t tangibile but bad decisions from misinterpreted data can be observed/felt-don’t add 2 + culture #lrnchat
09:04:52 pm Dave_Ferguson: @jd_dillon Big Data in the hands of a few is like… the credit bureaus. #lrnchat
09:04:59 pm XIIBarBlues: @LearnerAdvocate why is big data feared by instructional designers? #lrnchat
09:05:00 pm edwsonoma: but they can also helps us see patterns of, say academic risk, and make the problems go away before they become problems #lrnchat
09:05:05 pm Dan_Jacques_LD: A3) Great to have all that data, but it doesn’t always give you answers, still have to use other tools #lrnchat
09:05:07 pm mdpistilli: Use is also ltd by where it is, who controls it, and how accessible/available they make it. Bunkered data is no good to anyone. #lrnchat
09:05:12 pm BrianSMcGowan: #cynicism #ouch “@JaneBozarth: q3 Life in HR has taught me how data can be used for evil. Now possibly bigger evil. #lrnchat”
09:05:31 pm JaneBozarth: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @jd_dillon Big Data in the hands of a few is like… the credit bureaus. #lrnchat
09:05:33 pm edwsonoma: absolutely RT @Dan_Jacques_LD: A3) Great to have all that data, but it doesn’t always give you answers, still have other tools #lrnchat
09:05:35 pm lirons: @edwsonoma @gsiemens Are you saying that measurements aren’t needed in #bigdata? #lrnchat
09:05:59 pm lodtrain: Q3) Issues can be folks not being honest when entering data ie age say for surveys and then the interpretation is incorrect #lrnchat
09:06:08 pm mdpistilli: @edwsonoma It’s funny – students have less issues with us compiling data than do the faculty we try to convince to utilize it. #lrnchat
09:06:20 pm lrnchat: Q4 Where will big data’s effect be felt in the L&D communities? #lrnchat
09:06:21 pm audioswhite: A3) before jumping into Bigdata, take care of the “little” things. Data points are people, create engaging experiences #lrnchat
09:06:28 pm JaneBozarth: @BrianSMcGowan #realism #seenit #lrnchat
09:06:29 pm britz: @JaneBozarth all data is equal but some data is more equal than others😦 (Orwellian-ish) #lrnchat
09:06:31 pm SeanPutman1: @criticallearner Unfortunately that can be part of the evil #lrnchat
09:06:44 pm theASIDEblog: Data should be sourced and collected without bias to be legitimate. #lrnchat
09:06:47 pm SeanPutman1: RT @lrnchat: Q4 Where will big datas effect be felt in the L&D communities? #lrnchat
09:06:47 pm JD_Dillon: RT @lrnchat: Q4 Where will big data’s effect be felt in the L&D communities? #lrnchat
09:06:55 pm NancySlawski: The big data question is what does the ‘g’ popping off really mean ?😉 @JaneBozarth #lrnchat
09:06:56 pm BrianSMcGowan: @edwsonoma …that is a lot of Big words!🙂 how do allow #lrnchat folks to build these new skills…vs fear of analyses?
09:06:56 pm kelly_smith01: Don’t let big data become an MBTI-like weapon by those in charge. #lrnchat
09:06:57 pm mdpistilli: @lrnchat L&D? #lrnchat
09:07:04 pm JD_Dillon: A4) NOT in the LMS … #lrnchat
09:07:22 pm bsandie: #lrnchat Q3) we use data for games at EA in the acquisition, engagement and monetization phases – we can tune playing patterns for more fun!
09:07:32 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q4 Where will big data’s effect be felt in the L&D communities? #lrnchat
09:07:52 pm odguru: @edwsonoma @Dan_Jacques_LD Wielding the qualitative can be really powerful if less scalable for creating meaning #lrnchat
09:08:01 pm JaneBozarth: RT @britz: @JaneBozarth all data is equal but some data is more equal than others😦 (Orwellian-ish) #lrnchat
09:08:06 pm mdpistilli: Too true. But doesn’t have 2b. RT @britz: @JaneBozarth all data is equal but some data is more equal than others😦 (Orwellian-ish) #lrnchat
09:08:08 pm JD_Dillon: A4) Great chance to tie competencies to business results and identify learning and support opportunities. #lrnchat
09:08:09 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q4 Where will big data’s effect be felt in the L&D communities? #lrnchat
09:08:21 pm edwsonoma: @lirons @gsiemens repeatability / reliability matters but patterns can mean just as much as measures. depends on decisions to make #lrnchat
09:08:23 pm SeanPutman1: A4) There are many places to see what people are doing and offer them pointed assistance #lrnchat
09:08:27 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat A4 When we show learning styles and MBTI is a bunch of hooey statistically (oh, wait…)
09:08:29 pm theASIDEblog: Check out: The Bigfoot Of Big Data – Educational Myth vs. Reality #lrnchat http://t.co/Niq5BwHzqu
09:08:34 pm SeanPutman1: RT @JD_Dillon: A4) Great chance to tie competencies to business results and identify learning and support opportunities. #lrnchat
09:08:40 pm NancySlawski: Oh, but we know that’s what they are thinking. RT @JD_Dillon: A4) NOT in the LMS … #lrnchat
09:08:47 pm kelly_smith01: Big Data salivates for the data captured by an LMS #lrnchat
09:09:05 pm Dave_Ferguson: Where will Big Data’s effect be felt? Stampede of vendors into Big Data Expertise. #lrnchat
09:09:06 pm NancySlawski: RT @bsandie: #lrnchat Q3) we use data for games at EA in the acquisition, engagement and monetization phases – we can tune playing patterns for more fun!
09:09:11 pm odguru: @bsandie How do you ensure you avoid echo chambers i.e. preferences that become boring? #lrnchat
09:09:13 pm JD_Dillon: A4) If I knew as much about the people I support as Google does about me, my job would be just a little bit simpler. #lrnchat
09:09:17 pm JaneBozarth: @criticallearner stop beating my horse #lrnchat
09:09:18 pm criticallearner: RT @bsandie: #lrnchat Q3) we use data for games at EA in the acquisition, engagement and monetization phases – we can tune playing…
09:09:20 pm lodtrain: Q4) #lrnchat Big data in L&D will help us enhance our learners experiences
09:09:24 pm theASIDEblog: Data problems stem from research being sequestered and denied to certain constituencies. Use it, but check it. #lrnchat
09:09:29 pm lirons: @kelly_smith01 One point of confirmation why most #bigdata suffers from a category fallacy #lrnchat
09:09:31 pm SeanPutman1: A4) We can also get feedback if what we offered them as assistance actually helped them perform the task #lrnchat
09:09:35 pm BrianSMcGowan: Q4 “everywhere” seems like the obvious answer #lrnchat …but have concerns that the interpretative skills set is broadly lacking
09:09:42 pm JaneBozarth: @Dave_Ferguson too late. Don’t make me name names #lrnchat
09:09:43 pm LearnerAdvocate: A4) If done right, data could narrowly focus on specific performance challenges based on errors/help desk use/time to completion #lrnchat
09:09:49 pm edwsonoma: but this isn’t about reporting! it’s about finding the data u need to make better decisions and be a rock star! #lrnchat
09:09:52 pm OhioInked: A4). Can be part of determining ROI & connecting the dots for assessment gaps & core competence. #lrnchat
09:10:08 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lirons: @kelly_smith01 One point of confirmation why most #bigdata suffers from a category fallacy #lrnchat —> Yes
09:10:10 pm OhioInked: RT @JD_Dillon: A4) If I knew as much about the people I support as Google does about me, my job would be just a little bit simpler. #lrnchat
09:10:11 pm JaneBozarth: q4 The Big Datafication of MLearning in the SocialSpace with Games? #lrnchat
09:10:15 pm mdpistilli: Closing the loop is really important. If action is being taken, need to det if s’one is actually doing what’s been rec’d. #lrnchat
09:10:22 pm SparkWorks_4U: Students who access Facebook while studying have lower grade point averages http://t.co/sKuUnfy6QA #edchat #lrnchat
09:10:32 pm criticallearner: RT @edwsonoma: but this isn’t about reporting! it’s about finding the data u need to make better decisions and be a rock star! #lrnchat
09:10:32 pm lodtrain: RT @JaneBozarth: q4 The Big Datafication of MLearning in the SocialSpace with Games? #lrnchat
09:10:40 pm JaneBozarth: RT @edwsonoma: but this isn’t about reporting! it’s about finding the data u need to make better decisions and be a rock star! #lrnchat
09:10:42 pm audioswhite: A4 Sense making Of data stories instead of counting and check boxes. Bigdata is helping to drive recognition of the difference. #lrnchat
09:10:43 pm theASIDEblog: The age of big data affects education in a number of dramatic ways, some obvious and others not as evident. #lrnchat
09:10:45 pm mdpistilli: AND that whatever was recommended and done was effective. #lrnchat
09:11:02 pm BrianSMcGowan: @JaneBozarth …did the evil doers know what they were doing? Or just make stupid choices based on ignorance? #lrnchat #pleaseBethelatter
09:11:11 pm odguru: RT @edwsonoma: but this isn’t about reporting! it’s about finding the data u need to make better decisions and be a rock star! #lrnchat
09:11:13 pm SeanPutman1: RT @edwsonoma: but this isnt about reporting! its about finding the data u need to make better decisions and be a rock star! #lrnchat
09:11:23 pm NancySlawski: RT @edwsonoma: but this isn’t about reporting! it’s about finding the data u need to make better decisions and be a rock star! #lrnchat
09:11:36 pm JaneBozarth: @BrianSMcGowan plural, and yes. I’m not making this up. #lrnchat
09:11:39 pm XIIBarBlues: @odguru I talk a lot a about having a business rhythm. I think this is similar to cadence #lrnchat
09:11:43 pm BrianSMcGowan: “@kelly_smith01: Don’t let big data become an MBTI-like weapon by those in charge. #lrnchat” #bigdataconsultingLLC
09:11:49 pm lodtrain: Q4) big data will reshape learning as we can find Skill sets easier within an organization #lrnchat
09:11:51 pm edwsonoma: the whole analytics movement speaks to empowerment. wouldn’t u rather be driving the bus than getting tossed under the bus? #lrnchat
09:11:57 pm bsandie: #lrnchat Q4) we use google analytics for our online offerings – it provides # of unique users, avg duration, country/site usage – great!
09:12:04 pm theASIDEblog: Evaluative data is actively used in state districts, to determine school ratings & teacher rankings. #lrnchat
09:12:13 pm britz: @lodtrain yet we have “mid” data now and aren’t using it or using it well in many cases #lrnchat
09:12:31 pm Dan_Jacques_LD: A4) Big data could be used to help get an understanding for learning ROI #lrnchat
09:12:38 pm mdpistilli: @bsandie But besides looking at it, what do you do with that data? #lrnchat
09:13:00 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat A4 Why I think the direction of #tincanapi is better- it attempts to collect a more comprehensive picture of the users’ experience
09:13:15 pm JaneBozarth: @mdpistilli I’m sure everyone here agrees. #lrnchat
09:13:20 pm edwsonoma: @britz @lodtrain yes, that’s right. which is why sometimes I roll my eyes at “transformative” data projects. #lrnchat
09:13:25 pm kelly_smith01: RT @criticallearner: #lrnchat A4 Why I think the direction of #tincanapi is better- it attempts to collect a more comprehensive picture of the users’ experience
09:13:36 pm CaliforniaKara: Q4 It’ll be felt as soon as HR figures out y’all are playing with it and they realize they need to write a policy about it. #lrnchat
09:13:47 pm edwsonoma: RT @Dan_Jacques_LD: A4) Big data could be used to help get an understanding for learning ROI #lrnchat
09:13:48 pm JaneBozarth: @BrianSMcGowan we have had past chats on data used for evil. I’ll try to find the transcripts later #lrnchat
09:13:58 pm lirons: If you want to put #bigdata in its place (cognitively and in ID terms) read “Raw Data is an Oxymoron” http://t.co/CWJKaAtkei #lrnchat
09:14:09 pm mdpistilli: @JaneBozarth I think some data is more usable than others, but that doesn’t nec make it better… #lrnchat
09:14:25 pm tbraning: MT @JD_Dillon
Big data in the hands of few is like no data at all. Transparent data leads to buy-in, collaboration, and learning. #lrnchat
09:14:37 pm JaneBozarth: Show of hands if you’re org is making use of the data it already has? #lrnchat
09:14:39 pm theASIDEblog: Student scores twisted into digital knots flay teachers for real or imagined failings. Educators on losing end of data lash.⁰⁰ #lrnchat
09:14:51 pm bsandie: RT @mdpistilli @bsandie But besides looking at it, what do you do with that data? #lrnchat > we make decisions – big answer in next tweet
09:15:13 pm lodtrain: RT @JaneBozarth: Show of hands if you’re org is making use of the data it already has? #lrnchat
09:15:25 pm SparkWorks_4U: Multi-tasking? Students studied less than 6 min before switching to technological distractor http://t.co/qyRWRbdd4l #edchat #lrnchat
09:15:26 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat A4 I think big data may allow us to monitor “alongside” users and adapt very quickly (real-time) for a better experience
09:15:33 pm edwsonoma: Its what you DO with your data that matters most #lrnchat. (And don’t be afraid to use it all.)
09:15:47 pm odguru: We map internal networks, report progress 2ward goals, catalogue achievements (i.e. a worker knows she has shipped over 1M parts. #lrnchat
09:16:07 pm SeanPutman1: RT @edwsonoma: Its what you DO with your data that matters most #lrnchat. (And dont be afraid to use it all.) #lrnchat
09:16:10 pm criticallearner: @janebozarth #lrnchat You made me spit out a little of my drink laughing with that one.😉
09:16:18 pm theASIDEblog: The expanding world of “Big Data” means our students must emerge from HS w/ a deft familiarity in numbers and analytics. #lrnchat
09:16:23 pm lrnchat: Q5 Where do you find the data you need? How do you get access to it? #lrnchat
09:16:23 pm mdpistilli: just be responsible abt it. RT @edwsonoma: Its what you DO with your data that matters most #lrnchat. (And don’t be afraid to use it all.)
09:16:28 pm bsandie: #lrnchat @mdpistilli @bsandie we use the data to determine actions like need more content in a particular topic area as it is popular
09:16:45 pm kelly_smith01: Hello my Twitter handle is #kelly_smith01 and I am addicted to Big Data. #lrnchat
09:16:46 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q5 Where do you find the data you need? How do you get access to it? #lrnchat
09:16:48 pm JD_Dillon: RT @lrnchat: Q5 Where do you find the data you need? How do you get access to it? #lrnchat
09:16:53 pm lonestarsally: RT @BrianSMcGowan: “@kelly_smith01: Don’t let big data become an MBTI-like weapon by those in charge. #lrnchat” #bigdataconsultingLLC
09:16:58 pm SeanPutman1: RT @lrnchat: Q5 Where do you find the data you need? How do you get access to it? #lrnchat
09:16:58 pm criticallearner: @theasideblog #lrnchat But hopefully, big data analytics would understand teachers are one component and not THE source of issues?
09:17:13 pm BrianSMcGowan: @lirons about to make the same point…to me, the #rawbigdata is bus…we either drive it, or it WILL run us over. #lrnchat
09:17:18 pm JD_Dillon: A5) Sadly I often can’t find the data I need bc its not being collected. However, I do leverage Google Analytics every day. #lrnchat
09:17:22 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q5 Where do you find the data you need? How do you get access to it? #lrnchat
09:17:32 pm criticallearner: RT @edwsonoma: Its what you DO with your data that matters most #lrnchat. (And don’t be afraid to use it all.)
09:17:42 pm lodtrain: Q5) #lrnchat Why Google – my other brain, and at work our crazy intranet
09:17:49 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q5 Where do you find the data you need? How do you get access to it? #lrnchat
09:17:52 pm odguru: @bsandie do you do cross promotion? edging people into the new by looking at convergence on features people they like like? #lrnchat
09:17:54 pm SeanPutman1: A5)Google analytics does well for us, for pure access data. Also pulling help desk issues to look for common tickets….. #lrnchat
09:17:57 pm britz: Anyone ever hear of the eugenics movement and the progressive era? Data to justify assumptions… some tragic results #lrnchat
09:18:05 pm edwsonoma: well let’s flip this for a minute. what kinds of learning questions do you need answered? That will point you to your data sources #lrnchat
09:18:10 pm mdpistilli: In #HiEd, most of the data I’d want is being collected. But also protected. Much pleading and prodding s’times necessary. #lrnchat
09:18:27 pm JD_Dillon: A5) The data I need is hidden in a combination of business, marketing, HR, and learning systems. Put it together – BIG DATA! #lrnchat
09:18:42 pm NancySlawski: In small L&D or HR depts it’s hard to make a dent in the analysis of the data without headcount. #lrnchat
09:18:51 pm kelly_smith01: I am like a narc executing a search warrant when I look for data #lrnchat
09:18:57 pm lodtrain: Q5) Our internal soc media Yammer helps me find answers/data I need from global colleagues #lrnchat
09:19:01 pm mdpistilli: @edwsonoma is right-your sources need to be driven by the Q(s) you’re trying to answer. Start w/ Qs, turn to theory, then find data #lrnchat
09:19:01 pm bsandie: #lrnchat @mdpistilli if engagement is low at a site then contact partners to find out why – may need better advertising or to be translated
09:19:13 pm SeanPutman1: A5)..System in the works to gather actual user click data from within our software using Tin Can #lrnchat
09:19:18 pm criticallearner: A5 #lrnchat “Mr/Mrs Executive: What data do you need to see on this?” “Okay, who do I talk to to get that?” #simplestmethod
09:19:48 pm lrnchat: Q5Flip: RE big data–what questions do you want answered? #lrnchat
09:19:52 pm edwsonoma: well…yes, RT @criticallearner: A5 #lrnchat “Mr/Mrs Executive: What data do you need to see on this?” “Okay, who do I talk to to get that?
09:19:55 pm BrianSMcGowan: T5 I engineer data collection into content and learning…collect everything I can. ‘Ain’t no one got time fo another survey!’ #lrnchat
09:20:20 pm mdpistilli: @bsandie Thanks for sharing. Good stuff! #lrnchat
09:20:27 pm JD_Dillon: RT @lrnchat: Q5Flip: RE big data–what questions do you want answered? #lrnchat
09:20:53 pm SeanPutman1: RT @lrnchat: Q5Flip: RE big data–what questions do you want answered? #lrnchat
09:21:03 pm NancySlawski: So true. RT @criticallearner: A5 #lrnchat “Mr/Mrs Executive: What data do you need to see on this?” “Okay, who do I talk to to get that?”
09:21:24 pm JD_Dillon: A5Flip) How do my actions impact the performance of our people who impact decisions made by customers. #lrnchat
09:21:36 pm edwsonoma: @BrianSMcGowan right. and then its too much info #lrnchat
09:21:40 pm lirons: @edwsonoma Yes, no data exists without categories to count. Categories make assumptions about data. Measures are theories of data. #lrnchat
09:21:47 pm criticallearner: @edwsonoma Funny how much gets done with that #lrnchat – Erasing silos since 2003.🙂
09:21:49 pm BrianSMcGowan: T5 are you collecting ‘participation data’ or ‘learning data’ — google analytics COULD be used for either…. #lrnchat
09:21:50 pm SeanPutman1: q5flip) where do people struggle, what pieces of content help that struggle #lrnchat
09:22:40 pm lrnchat: q6 What do we need to learn to better navigate the big data world? #lrnchat
09:22:50 pm JaneBozarth: RT @SeanPutman1: q5flip) where do people struggle, what pieces of content help that struggle #lrnchat
09:22:53 pm trainingleader: RT @JaneBozarth: Show of hands if you’re org is making use of the data it already has? #lrnchat
09:22:55 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: q6 What do we need to learn to better navigate the big data world? #lrnchat
09:22:55 pm edwsonoma:😀 RT @criticallearner: @edwsonoma Funny how much gets done with that #lrnchat – Erasing silos since 2003.🙂
09:22:55 pm JaneBozarth: RT @BrianSMcGowan: T5 are you collecting ‘participation data’ or ‘learning data’ — google analytics COULD be used for either…. #lrnchat
09:23:03 pm Dan_Jacques_LD: A5flip) Besides the meaning of life, need the data to guide clients to a measurable gap that L&D could help close #lrnchat
09:23:04 pm SeanPutman1: RT @lrnchat: q6 What do we need to learn to better navigate the big data world? #lrnchat
09:23:15 pm OhioInked: Simplicity here- ask for it, search & discuss. No data engineers to collect. Unfortunately, lots still gathered through surveys. #lrnchat
09:23:20 pm lrnchat: Note: We are always looking for ideas for topics. Need theme + 5-6 questions. Contact @lnddave @Quinnovator @JaneBozarth #lrnchat
09:23:24 pm criticallearner: Q5 #lrnchat My Qs almost always “what are the pain points?” “Why?” “What can be done?”
09:23:24 pm lodtrain: “@SeanPutman1: q5flip) where do people struggle, what pieces of content help that struggle #lrnchat” and how much time is ideal 4 u to lrn
09:23:35 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: q6 What do we need to learn to better navigate the big data world? #lrnchat
09:23:58 pm mdpistilli: A6 Common def’ns of data (go @parframework!), easily used data visualization tools #lrnchat
09:24:02 pm JD_Dillon: RT @lrnchat: q6 What do we need to learn to better navigate the big data world? #lrnchat
09:24:04 pm LearnerAdvocate: A5) Our clients use existing(small) data to measure performance change after learning. Would be cool to have big data #lrnchat
09:24:12 pm BrianSMcGowan: T5flip – in medicine I worry about whether what we desire to teach is what clinicians desire to learn. #needs #gaps #disconnect #lrnchat
09:24:13 pm SeanPutman1: A6)Some basic data analytics to start #lrnchat
09:24:19 pm kelly_smith01: Q6 Need to cleanse and vet data as we store it #lrnchat
09:24:20 pm lrnchat: Threw out Q6 as it seemed some convo pointed there. Don’t have much time left tonight — maybe more in another chat. –jb #lrnchat
09:24:25 pm lrnchat: QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourself. (Shameless plugs welcome.) #lrnchat
09:24:28 pm edwsonoma: @lrnchat Q6 think more like explorers. less like bureaucrats. From data to information to better decisions to results. #lrnchat
09:24:31 pm JD_Dillon: A6) Remain open and curious. Don’t walk into Big Data with assumptions. Allow connections to reveal themselves. #lrnchat
09:24:34 pm odguru: q6 #lrnchat we need better aggregation tools – light and fluid (i.e. TinCan API) and stronger protocols for understanding and use
09:24:59 pm lirons: @criticallearner @lrnchat Learn about Bayes’ theorem is your best first step! #lrnchat
09:24:59 pm mdpistilli: @criticallearner And further, what’s the prob you’re really trying to solve? Too often presented w/ a need for a fix, not solution #lrnchat
09:25:02 pm JD_Dillon: RT @lrnchat: QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourself. (Shameless plugs welcome.) #lrnchat
09:25:04 pm SeanPutman1: RT @edwsonoma: @lrnchat Q6 think more like explorers less like bureaucrats. From data to information to better decisions to results #lrnchat
09:25:09 pm SeanPutman1: RT @lrnchat: QWrap) Its that time again. Please re-introduce yourself. (Shameless plugs welcome.) #lrnchat
09:25:19 pm OhioInked: Shane, Competence Development Responsible. Husband & father. #lrnchat
09:25:22 pm criticallearner: q6 #lrnchat How to take a large set of data and run a hypothesis against it to see if gold is in that pan.
09:25:26 pm lodtrain: Thanks for another great #lrnchat from happy IT global Education colleague lots of data to digest from tonite
09:25:37 pm edwsonoma: my name is Ellen and I am a crusader for student success. I use data as my shield for good. #lrnchat
09:25:39 pm odguru: @JD_Dillon Ask “why might my hunches be wrong.” #lrnchat
09:25:46 pm JD_Dillon: QWrap) JD, Orlando. Check out http://t.co/SpKyXQ6kTf! Give me a shout if I’ll see you at #ASTD2013 next week. #lrnchat
09:26:12 pm BrianSMcGowan: T5 I want to see the ‘meta’ in the data, when was the data collected, what was occurring in that moment, how does it relate to X. #lrnchat
09:26:12 pm kelly_smith01: Qwrap) Wonderful topic it was a sorta change of pace. Thank you guest host. #lrnchat
09:26:24 pm lirons: @lrnchat Larry Irons, experience designer and communicator for learning challenges. #lrnchat
09:26:27 pm JD_Dillon: @odguru assume you’ll be surprised! #lrnchat
09:26:39 pm JaneBozarth: qwrap Heading to ASTD ICE next week: “Social Media for LEarning” precon, SoMe for Trainers session, book signing, etc. #lrnchat
09:26:53 pm CaliforniaKara: QWrap) Kara DeFrias, reformed instructional designer now working in UX. Latest TEDx talk -> http://t.co/HP5ywafTI5 #lrnchat
09:27:13 pm JaneBozarth: RT @kelly_smith01: Qwrap) Wonderful topic it was a sorta change of pace. Thank you guest host. #lrnchat
09:27:41 pm LearnerAdvocate: A5F) Ability to track softer indicators of performance would be cool – confidence, burden on others, procrastination, avoidance #lrnchat
09:27:45 pm mdpistilli: #lrnchat QWrap Matt Pistilli, Purdue. Striving for student success through interpretable, actionable outcome from good data and parsimony
09:27:49 pm JD_Dillon: @lodtrain not this rodeo #lrnchat
09:27:50 pm NancySlawski: Great chat everyone – txs. Signing off from Toronto. #lrnchat
09:27:50 pm lrnchat: Many thanks tonight to guest @edwsonoma Ellen Wagner . #lrnchat
09:27:58 pm BrianSMcGowan: Brian…educator, student, author, researcher, b-team golfer…live in Philly, work online… #lrnchat
09:28:07 pm lodtrain: “@lrnchat: Many thanks tonight to guest @edwsonoma Ellen Wagner . #lrnchat” Thanks@
09:28:14 pm SeanPutman1: QWrap) Thanks all for a great chat, Sean from Detroit trying to become a better writer at https://t.co/UHIhx138vc #lrnchat
09:28:20 pm bsandie: #lrnchat Q6) hire data analysts to build forecasting models I.e., model that forecasts attrition by location, seniority level & job family
09:28:35 pm criticallearner: G’nite #lrnchat Hope you had a Great Fibonacci Day 5/8/13
http://t.co/gxyPVi4E9d
09:28:41 pm kelly_smith01: RT @edwsonoma: “Data is a new class of economic asset, like currency or gold” (Steve Lohr, NY Times 11 Feb 2012). #lrnchat
09:28:43 pm OhioInked: Thanks @edwsonoma! #lrnchat
09:28:44 pm edwsonoma: more about some of the learning analytics work Im lucky to be involved with can be found at #ParFramework.org #wcet_info #lrnchat
09:28:46 pm JD_Dillon: RT @lrnchat: Many thanks tonight to guest @edwsonoma Ellen Wagner . #lrnchat
09:28:48 pm odguru: RT @lrnchat: Many thanks tonight to guest @edwsonoma Ellen Wagner . #lrnchat
09:29:17 pm edwsonoma: @OhioInked your’e welcome. this was great. thanks to u!! #lrnchat
09:29:31 pm criticallearner: @edwsonoma #lrnchat “data as my shield for good”- awesome.
09:29:42 pm JaneBozarth: GREAT #lrnchat tonight! THanks, all. Be well.
09:30:17 pm audioswhite: RT @lrnchat: Many thanks tonight to guest @edwsonoma Ellen Wagner . #lrnchat
09:30:48 pm SargeSalman: Good stuff! “@CaliforniaKara, reformed instructional designer now working in #UX. Latest #TEDx talk -> http://t.co/YLGVfICd0c #lrnchat”
09:30:55 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Many thanks tonight to guest @edwsonoma Ellen Wagner . #lrnchat
09:31:11 pm lrnchat: Goodnight, and thanks for another great #lrnchat. See you next week at this same time.
09:31:25 pm edwsonoma: @lrnchat thank you mucho for inviting me to join in tonight. #lrnchat
09:31:36 pm LearnerAdvocate: Qwrap) Loved the unique topic! Come by the @customelearning booth at #ASTD2013. Check out our blogs/vlogs http://t.co/93O27gq5jO #lrnchat
09:32:46 pm edwsonoma: @mdpistilli is one of my all-time fav “data whisperers” #lrnchat
09:34:45 pm jshamsy: RT @JaneBozarth: AMEN MT @CaliforniaKara Strive to be data-informed, not data-driven. #lrnchat

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