Transcript 28 March 2013 Competency Models

08:30:54 pm lrnchat: Hello everyone and welcome to #lrnchat. Thanks for joining us this evening. We’re talking about Competency Models tonight.
08:31:10 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Hello everyone and welcome to #lrnchat. Thanks for joining us this evening. We’re talking about Competency Models tonight.
08:31:11 pm AmandaMoerles: Amanda Moerles, 5th grade #lrnchat
08:31:39 pm lrnchat: Please introduce yourself. Name, specialties, interests, etc.? #lrnchat
08:32:01 pm mpetersell: RT @lrnchat: Hello everyone and welcome to #lrnchat. Thanks for joining us this evening. We’re talking about Competency Models tonight.
08:32:14 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Please introduce yourself. Name, specialties, interests, etc.? #lrnchat
08:32:20 pm DonnaBrumlow: #lrnchat Donna Brumlow second grade
08:32:29 pm criticallearner: RT @amandamoerles: Amanda Moerles, 5th grade #lrnchat > You seem mature for a 5th grader.
08:32:39 pm lrnchat: Q0. We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:32:41 pm JaneBozarth: Jane, social media/learning, narrating work/learning, writin’, thinkin’… #lrnchat
08:32:53 pm aaronesilvers: Two competency models walk into a bar. Bartender says, “Sorry we don’t serve models here.” The models say “that’s just incompetent” #lrnchat
08:32:58 pm TriciaRansom: This is Tricia, a sr. instructional designer who is also project managing, facilitating, designing, assessing, developing… #lrnchat
08:33:00 pm Quinnovator: time for the 60 minutes wild, wise, and wacky memestream that is #lrnchat, welcome to new and returning participants, duck or join!
08:33:05 pm JD_Dillon: Howdy, y’all … JD from Orlando. L&D strategist, designer, leader, Insaniac, Sharer, L&D Global Events Calendarer. #lrnchat
08:33:10 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q0. We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:33:25 pm lodtrain: #lrnchat Hello from Clickity click training – IT Global Educational services… Happy to be here
08:33:36 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, learning experience design instigator, consultant/author/speaker, genial malcontent, Walnut Creek CA #lrnchat
08:33:37 pm kellygarber: Kelly, Instructional design, performance support – evening all #lrnchat
08:33:47 pm JaneBozarth: Author “Social Media for Trainers” and more; workplace learning focus, gubmint employee #lrnchat
08:33:53 pm AmandaMoerles: I learned how to use IMovie to create videos for a flipped classroom for a curriculum project. #lrnchat #peru552
08:33:57 pm cindyhugg: Hi! Cindy Huggett, having dinner w @trishuhl in Chicago, joining #lrnchat for a few min
08:34:01 pm trishuhl: RT @lrnchat: Please introduce yourself. Name, specialties, interests, etc.? #lrnchat
08:34:09 pm JD_Dillon: Q0) Starting up an Axonify pilot with my clients, learning the platform and practical application options. #lrnchat
08:34:21 pm lodtrain: #lrnchat Learned from Sr. Leader demand management = demand shaping. influencing customer demand to match our IT Supply
08:34:22 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, a man of means by no mans #lrnchat
08:34:26 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat intro> David Glow, Tampa, FL. Implementing a learning system for national restaurant including Competency tracking (my side-gig).
08:34:33 pm TriciaRansom: Q0) Learned that somehow, someway, 1 person out of a 1000 will not be able to follow directions. #lrnchat
08:34:40 pm Lenandlar: i just learn that there is a thing called “competency models” #lrnchat
08:34:53 pm JD_Dillon: I was once offered a contract to be a competency model but I didn’t see the ROI. #weakjoke #lrnchat
08:34:58 pm DonnaBrumlow: #lrnchat Today I learned that no matter how many years I have taught, 7 yr olds can teach me something new!
08:35:10 pm JaneBozarth: Q0 still working on sketchnoting. had way more time to practice when I was in lms training… #lrnchat
08:35:25 pm trishuhl: RT @cindyhugg: Hi! Cindy Huggett, having dinner w @trishuhl in Chicago, joining #lrnchat for a few min > and w @SharonWingron !
08:35:28 pm aaronesilvers: @Quinnovator Also… I’ve been working on my inner @7omKing since I turned 40. #lrnchat
08:35:28 pm criticallearner: @aaronesilvers And it starts… #lrnchat
08:35:33 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q0. We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:35:33 pm AmandaMoerles: @TriciaRansom I could completely understand that, I see it everyday!🙂 #lrnchat #peru552
08:35:55 pm JaneBozarth: @trishuhl good thing you turned up… #lrnchat
08:35:56 pm TriciaRansom: @lodtrain I padded it to protect the innocent. sigh. #lrnchat
08:36:18 pm criticallearner: Q0 #lrnchat> I learned about @krisrockwell’s #LinkedInWars. @aaronesilvers took me down hard.
08:36:25 pm lrnchat: Q1) What is a Competency Model and how does it relate to learning? #lrnchat
08:36:38 pm TriciaRansom: Q0) Learned that apparently it’s been more than 10 years since last tetanus shot…and that I still don’t like shots. #lrnchat
08:36:39 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What is a Competency Model and how does it relate to learning? #lrnchat
08:36:43 pm scogill: Q0) I learned a new approach to making a PPT and actually produced a PPT with said approach #lrnchat
08:36:49 pm JaneBozarth: Q0 for narrating my own work i’m preferring video/screengrabs to writing. surprised me. #lrnchat
08:36:52 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What is a Competency Model and how does it relate to learning? #lrnchat
08:36:54 pm trishuhl: .@aaronesilvers ROFLMAO! #lrnchat
08:36:55 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What is a Competency Model and how does it relate to learning? #lrnchat
08:37:03 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What is a Competency Model and how does it relate to learning? #lrnchat
08:37:30 pm LnDDave: Greetings #lrnchat. David Kelly from Long Island. Hope everyone is well.
08:37:33 pm JD_Dillon: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What is a Competency Model and how does it relate to learning? #lrnchat
08:38:05 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What is a Competency Model and how does it relate to learning? #lrnchat
08:38:07 pm kellygarber: q1 – group of behaviors that describe what success in a job looks like, a powerful self-directed learning tool #lrnchat
08:38:08 pm Quinnovator: a1) a competency model is a person that shows off the latest competencies? #lrnchat
08:38:23 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What is a Competency Model and how does it relate to learning? #lrnchat
08:38:39 pm lodtrain: #lrnchat competency model single comprehensive framework career dev, performance mgt and employee leadership and dev
08:38:42 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) People have to learn to be competent wearing the lastest fashion? #lrnchat
08:38:42 pm AmandaMoerles: Q1: A tool designed to help ensure that educators and teachers are engaged in the learning process. #lrnchat #peru552
08:39:09 pm TriciaRansom: @criticallearner @Amandamoerles YIKES! #lrnchat
08:39:25 pm Quinnovator: a1) a framework for defining the skill set for a specific task/role? #lrnchat
08:39:26 pm scogill: Q1) I’ll say it’s a list of “Stuff” that describes what a person should know / should be able to do… training can fill gaps #lrnchat
08:39:47 pm trishuhl: .@JaneBozarth: @trishuhl good thing you turned up… #lrnchat > Seems bad form to turn down a request from you…🙂
08:39:58 pm LnDDave: Q1) A competency model should list a set of standard measurable behaviors related to performing a job or task accurately. #lrnchat
08:40:02 pm whitneykilgore: @lrnchat A1) It’s not about time, it’s about knowledge. Competency model can remove ‘seat time’ requirements. #lrnchat
08:40:02 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) Tool that shows what competencies are needed for which role so ppl can see where they need to LEARN new competencies #lrnchat
08:40:03 pm criticallearner: Q1 #lrnchat >Competency models are key performance behaviors outlined in an observable and rate-able manner to track development
08:40:03 pm JD_Dillon: RT @Quinnovator: a1) a framework for defining the skill set for a specific task/role? #lrnchat
08:40:04 pm DonnaBrumlow: #lrnchat Q1) The qualities/characteristics of an effective and highly engaging educator?
08:40:34 pm JD_Dillon: RT @LnDDave: Q1) A competency model lists a set of standard measurable behaviors related to performing a job or task accurately. #lrnchat
08:40:40 pm theASIDEblog: We worry that competency model requires standardization to conform. #lrnchat
08:40:48 pm criticallearner: MT @scogill: Q1) a list of “Stuff” that describes what a person should know / should be able to do… training can fill gaps #lrnchat >LIKE!
08:41:06 pm JaneBozarth: Q1 it purports to align org needs/goals with emp KSAs. Theoretically guides learning to help make that alignment. #lrnchat
08:41:20 pm kelly_smith01: Competency Models are the result of much research on exemplary performance of specific jobs. #lrnchat
08:41:25 pm Quinnovator: a1) a way to crystallize a definition of necessary skills #lrnchat
08:41:49 pm LnDDave: Q1) A competency model can assist learning by providing a roadmap from novice to expert. #lrnchat
08:41:53 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) But who/how decides the standards which it measures? And who/how is it updated to reflect changes in reality? #lrnchat
08:42:00 pm criticallearner: Q1 #lrnchat > I keep seeing job/role/task RE: Competencies, but don’t many competencies span many jobs/roles/tasks?
08:42:09 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth ‘purports’, ‘theoretically’, methink thou dost protest a mite🙂 #lrnchat
08:42:12 pm theASIDEblog: How can competency be modeled without preset factors designed to rate performance? #lrnchat
08:42:38 pm LnDDave: @janebozarth theoretically… #lrnchat
08:42:39 pm JD_Dillon: A1) It’s fun to see the difference between what competency models should be and what I often see … misalignment #lrnchat
08:42:44 pm OU812Jensen: #lrnchat A1) defines expected behaviors, knowledge and skills required to perform a specific goal or task
08:42:47 pm kelly_smith01: By the time you finish your comp model the job is o (or model) obsolete #lrnchat
08:42:51 pm JaneBozarth: @TriciaRansom my those are excellent questions. #lrnchat
08:43:00 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) Like competency models in that it helps ME (the learner) self-identify gaps and self-fill them. #lrnchat
08:43:08 pm JaneBozarth: RT @JD_Dillon: A1) Its fun to see the difference between what competency models should be and what I often see … misalignment #lrnchat
08:43:14 pm JaneBozarth: RT @kelly_smith01: By the time you finish your comp model the job is o (or model) obsolete #lrnchat
08:43:19 pm TriciaRansom: @JaneBozarth Me smart cookie #lrnchat
08:43:35 pm lodtrain: Q1) Model should show typical paths, but each person’s path will be very personal with supporting tools (P support, skills traing) #lrnchat
08:43:36 pm Quinnovator: RT @theASIDEblog: How can competency be modeled w/o preset factors designed to rate performance? #lrnchat < emergent rather than external?
08:43:41 pm kellygarber: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) Like competency models in that it helps ME (the learner) self-identify gaps and self-fill them. #lrnchat
08:43:44 pm TriciaRansom: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @kelly_smith01: By the time you finish your comp model the job is o (or model) obsolete #lrnchat
08:43:50 pm theASIDEblog: Competency models by definition require measured standards. What about performance model without prerequisites? #lrnchat
08:43:59 pm LnDDave: Q1) A competency model *should* bring clarity around what knowledge and skills are required for a role. (Think CPAs) #lrnchat
08:44:00 pm criticallearner: RT @quinnovator: a1) a way to crystallize a definition of necessary skills #lrnchat > Like how short/clear this def is.
08:44:07 pm kelly_smith01: A comp model could be used to ID performance gaps. #lrnchat
08:44:09 pm ExpertusONE: #Learning folks: Good stuff at #lrnchat now! MT ‏@LnDDave Q1 Competency model can assist learning by providing roadmap from novice to expert
08:44:17 pm criticallearner: RT @lnddave: Q1) A competency model can assist learning by providing a roadmap from novice to expert. #lrnchat >Gr8 explanation of the tie.
08:44:26 pm Quinnovator: a1) a way to extort large amounts of money from companies to consultants to document the past? #lrnchat
08:44:30 pm RussPowell: Enjoying following #lrnchat this evening, but can’t follow fer long. Perhaps another time. Loved te comp-model joke, @aaronesilvers.
08:44:39 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: a1) a way to extort large amounts of money from companies to consultants to document the past? #lrnchat
08:44:42 pm JaneBozarth: A1 among the issues are how the different players define ‘learning’… #lrnchat
08:44:45 pm LnDDave: RT @JD_Dillon: A1) It’s fun to see the difference between what competency models should be and what I often see … misalignment #lrnchat
08:44:55 pm AriAvivi: #lrnchat L&D consultant, Saskatoon sk canada what’s the topic tonight?
08:45:09 pm JD_Dillon: A1) True competency models require considerable research and mapping to successful performance behaviors, not rhetoric. #lrnchat
08:45:11 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator and you say *I* protest… #lrnchat
08:45:23 pm JaneBozarth: pretty much RT @Quinnovator: a1) a way to extort large amounts of money from companies to consultants to document the past? #lrnchat
08:45:24 pm lrnchat: Q2) What competency models are you aware of related to training / learning? What are their strengths and weaknesses? #lrnchat
08:45:30 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator and you say *I* protest… #lrnchat <🙂
08:45:35 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What competency models are you aware of related to training / learning? What are their strengths and weaknesses? #lrnchat
08:45:37 pm OU812Jensen: #lrnchat a1) should be more granular than just defined by role and specific to the expected performance
08:45:40 pm theASIDEblog: Somehow a competency model reminds us of standardized testing. Performance, output, and learning is not a one size fits all model. #lrnchat
08:45:43 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What competency models are you aware of related to training / learning? What are their strengths and weaknesses? #lrnchat
08:45:44 pm LnDDave: RT @Quinnovator: a1) a way to extort large amounts of money from companies to consultants to document the past? #lrnchat
08:45:55 pm criticallearner: RT @janebozarth: RT @kelly_smith01: By the time you finish your comp model the job is o (or model) obsolete #lrnchat > Often.
08:45:56 pm JD_Dillon: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What competency models are you aware of related to training / learning? What are their strengths and weaknesses? #lrnchat
08:46:04 pm lodtrain: Q1) Should describe the competencies, definitions, levels of behaviors/skills and clear examples to help learners #lrnchat
08:46:10 pm JaneBozarth: @LnDDave It’s fun to see what different stakeholders think ‘competence’ is. #lrnchat
08:46:14 pm kelly_smith01: A comp model defines the proletariat #lrnchat
08:46:29 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What competency models are you aware of related to training / learning? What are their strengths and weaknesses? #lrnchat
08:46:32 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What competency models are you aware of related to training / learning? What are their strengths and weaknesses? #lrnchat
08:46:34 pm Quinnovator: a2) just heard about the new ASTD CPLP one. Haven’t investigated deeply enough for strengths/weaknesses #lrnchat
08:46:40 pm JaneBozarth: RT @kelly_smith01: A comp model defines the proletariat #lrnchat
08:46:49 pm criticallearner: MT @quinnovator: RT @theASIDEblog: How can comp. be modeled w/o preset factors designed to rate perf? #lrnchat < emergent vs external?
08:47:00 pm lodtrain: Q2) SFIA IT skills competency model, Co models showing career maps, matched to skills and specific foundational training #lrnchat
08:47:30 pm Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: A comp model defines the proletariat #lrnchat < is comp model like ‘best practices’? e.g. how to be average?
08:47:32 pm criticallearner: RT @quinnovator: a1) a way to extort large amounts of money from companies to consultants to document the past? #lrnchat > Too often.
08:47:33 pm OU812Jensen: #lrnchat CSTD has a very comprehensive comp model for L&D professionals, some not attainable in work environment, but provides a framework.
08:47:38 pm JD_Dillon: A2) Poor models cause a narrowed development focus to force alignment rather than naturally seek improved performance #lrnchat
08:47:41 pm ronindotca: Just popping in to say hi (it’s Good Friday here) Cameron Campbell, Christchurch & Dunedin, NZ. Canadian Instructional design fella #lrnchat
08:47:47 pm JaneBozarth: Facebook doesn’t use ‘competencies’ , but ‘strengths’. Just sayin’. #lrnchat
08:47:50 pm theASIDEblog: The competency model for teachers should be to be a part of social media to actively engage in learning the way students do today. #lrnchat
08:48:02 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What competency models are you aware of related to training / learning? What are their strengths and weaknesses? #lrnchat
08:48:22 pm JD_Dillon: A2) Quality models just work … Alignment isn’t an effort, it’s essential for good performance #lrnchat
08:48:27 pm sllacera: RT @JaneBozarth: Facebook doesn’t use ‘competencies’ , but ‘strengths’. Just sayin’. #lrnchat
08:48:32 pm theASIDEblog: Competency models need to change as tools for learning change. #lrnchat
08:48:42 pm kelly_smith01: Have seen company wide comp model developed for big corporation –> wasn’t popular heads rolled #lrnchat
08:48:49 pm JeanneDorle: Hello everyone – interested in instructional design – currently focusing on ways to introduce PLNs to mid-career grad students #lrnchat
08:49:00 pm scogill: @theASIDEblog yes – we should practice what we preach that others should do!
#lrnchat
08:49:21 pm OU812Jensen: #lrnchat Comp model for technical positions specific, observable and measurable, I.e. Mechanic however not all can be achieved dep. on envir
08:49:23 pm theASIDEblog: Many students are far more competent than teachers in modeling current trends for learning. #lrnchat
08:49:47 pm DanHirtEsq: Won’t be able to join tonight’s #lrnchat…but if you want to help a friend unpack, let me know!
08:49:49 pm LnDDave: Q1) The only Training competency model I’m aware of is from ASTD; LPI’s Capability Map has the foundation for a comparison model. #lrnchat
08:49:54 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) Aren’t all competency models be tied 1000% to learning and development? Isn’t that what they do…help people develop & learn #lrnchat
08:50:03 pm trishuhl: .@Quinnovator Comp Models often define professional standards – in USA according to the USDOL (determines profession v occupation) #lrnchat
08:50:08 pm JaneBozarth: 2 there’s the ASTD model, just revised; have worked w ones from DOJustice & HumSvcs, there’s one in UK i can’t remember… #lrnchat
08:50:14 pm OU812Jensen: #lrnchat A2) ICF comp model extensive and relative to role of coach, not easily measurable however.
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08:50:18 pm lodtrain: Q2) Model we used at work was transparent with career map, and specific skills at every step on the map, with learning aligned #lrnchat
08:50:19 pm Quinnovator: a2) good to describe potential set of responsibilities, minimum level of capability, but too limiting by capping? Complacency? #lrnchat
08:50:52 pm JaneBozarth: @JD_Dillon but how often DO they work? #lrnchat
08:50:58 pm LnDDave: RT @jeannedorle: …currently focusing on ways to introduce PLNs to mid-career grad students #lrnchat << Great idea. Good luck!
08:51:25 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) And I go back to original questions. If model aligned to skills, what happens when skill sets change? #lrnchat
08:51:31 pm JaneBozarth: I’ve worked w a number of comp models for ‘training’;most rely heavily on ‘presentation’. A lot seems designed to sustain old ways #lrnchat
08:51:36 pm criticallearner: Q2 #lrnchat> Most models I’ve seen = cookie-cutter, generic items sold by companies with small tweaks as “customized”. Hence, the weakness.
08:51:36 pm kelly_smith01: A comp model for a specific job may have several levels of performance #lrnchat
08:51:45 pm Quinnovator: a2) admit previous experience w/ competency models was unique language per org exercise, costly & brittle. Curious about upside #lrnchat
08:51:56 pm kellygarber: a2 – any will have glaring weaknesses if considered more than a guide. use like a coloring book – provides the outline #lrnchat
08:52:06 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) And if aligned to skills or best/practices, what happens when new practices or new levels of success for skill? #lrnchat
08:52:15 pm lodtrain: Q2) Best to add DIALOG with supervisors and employees about the Competency Model, both need to understand and have tools… #lrnchat
08:52:31 pm jadekaz: Two #lrnchats in a row. How @jadekaz got her groove back. #lrnchat
08:52:34 pm TriciaRansom: RT @kellygarber: a2 – any will have glaring weaknesses if considered more than a guide. use like a coloring book – provides outline #lrnchat
08:52:35 pm kelly_smith01: Ruling class may use comp model to build silos. #lrnchat
08:52:41 pm LnDDave: Q2) You could argue that things are moving so fast today that no model can exist without being continuously updated. #lrnchat
08:52:45 pm Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: A comp model for a specific job may have several levels of performance #lrnchat < that’s useful elaboration
08:52:48 pm theASIDEblog: Today’s notion of traditional models for teaching can be viewed as out of touch with our youth. So who is more competent? #lrnchat
08:52:57 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat q2> Also, the range of behaviors qualifying for demonstrating competency is almost always too narrow.
08:53:04 pm JD_Dillon: @JaneBozarth About as often as my work HP laptop (he said from his MacBook) #lrnchat
08:53:14 pm scogill: Q2) what i see they’re great for onboarding, less so for day to day #lrnchat
08:53:18 pm lrnchat: Q3) What should be included in the creation of a competency model? #lrnchat
08:53:22 pm Quinnovator: RT @TriciaRansom: Q2) go back to original questions. If model aligned to skills, what happens when skill sets change? #lrnchat < governance?
08:53:23 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) We’re currently in midst of this effort. But yes, will prolly be obsolete b4 rolled out to field #lrnchat
08:53:30 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What should be included in the creation of a competency model? #lrnchat
08:53:31 pm JaneBozarth: RT @criticallearner: #lrnchat q2> Also, the range of behaviors qualifying for demonstrating competency is almost always too narrow. #lrnchat
08:53:42 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What should be included in the creation of a competency model? #lrnchat
08:53:47 pm criticallearner: @lodtrain #lrnchat – that is good, but doesn’t is assume that path and that learning is the only way to be competent/progress?
08:53:47 pm LnDDave: Q2) I’m leery of any competency model backed primarily by an org with a vested interest in maintaining the status quo. #lrnchat
08:53:55 pm jadekaz: @Quinnovator @kelly_smith01 re: levels of performance within a comp model – was thinking there’s room for a…rubric #lrnchat
08:54:02 pm Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q2) You could argue that things are moving so fast today that no model can exist without being continuously updated. #lrnchat
08:54:20 pm OU812Jensen: #lrnchat A2) comp. models are fluid change overtime as role and org. changes over time need to have process in place to re-visit and re-eval
08:54:21 pm JaneBozarth: I’m summoning the ghost of @dave_ferguson as I can’t believe he’s missing this #lrnchat
08:54:27 pm lodtrain: Q3) Clear examples should be included, tools such as competency matrix competencies needed for each role… #lrnchat
08:54:29 pm JaneBozarth: RT @LnDDave: Q2) Im leery of any competency model backed primarily by an org with a vested interest in maintaining the status quo. #lrnchat
08:54:37 pm AmandaMoerles: @LnDDave I agree. Models should be changed to embrace how learning is changing. #peru552 #lrnchat
08:54:38 pm theASIDEblog: We can’t keep avoiding the issue of technology competence as it relates to the youth of today. We need to master and harness it. #lrnchat
08:54:53 pm AriAvivi: #lrnchat q3 a clear understanding of what the competencies actually are. just what does a communication competency mean?
08:55:00 pm JD_Dillon: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What should be included in the creation of a competency model? #lrnchat
08:55:00 pm Quinnovator: a2) appears upside of competency models is definition of progression, downside is potential for brittleness #lrnchat
08:55:01 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) What should be included? What about a crowd-sourced model created by those who actually do the job? #lrnchat
08:55:09 pm JaneBozarth: too many orgs develop competency model, build a bunch of courses to fit it, then have to sustain it rather than keep adapting it #lrnchat
08:55:17 pm criticallearner: RT @lnddave: Q2) You could argue that things are moving so fast today that no model can exist without being continuously updated. #lrnchat
08:55:27 pm JD_Dillon: A3) Include the people who perform the role in the process, not just a researcher or training folks #lrnchat
08:55:40 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What should be included in the creation of a competency model? #lrnchat
08:55:45 pm scogill: I like it RT @TriciaRansom: Q3) What should be included? What about a crowd-sourced model created by those who actually do the job? #lrnchat
08:55:49 pm JD_Dillon: RT @JaneBozarth: too many orgs develop a model, build a bunch of courses to fit it, then have to sustain rather than keep adapting #lrnchat
08:55:53 pm Quinnovator: a3) governance: process & timeline for keeping current. Current ‘vision’: community takes responsibility. Emergent, not external #lrnchat
08:55:56 pm jadekaz: q3) the voice of the person held to the competencies #lrnchat
08:56:04 pm theASIDEblog: To be fluid, nimble and accepting builds competency. #lrnchat
08:56:11 pm Quinnovator: RT @TriciaRansom: Q3) What should be included? What about a crowd-sourced model created by those who actually do the job? #lrnchat < alike!
08:56:20 pm JaneBozarth: Q2 also hilariously, tragically seen orgs unable do demonstrate the very competencies it promotes as vital #lrnchat
08:56:22 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What should be included in the creation of a competency model? #lrnchat
08:56:27 pm britz: MT @kelly_smith01: A competency model defines the proletariat #lrnchat
08:56:34 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) My hang-up is visualizing applying models of old (think brittle and rigid) to today’s reality. #lrnchat
08:56:44 pm LnDDave: RT @JD_Dillon: A3) Include the people who perform the role in the process, not just a researcher or training folks #lrnchat
08:57:02 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth re: orgs unable to demonstrate: prob w/ comp model or org execution? #lrnchat
08:57:04 pm OU812Jensen: #lrnchat A3) I think it’s more about who should be include as opposed to what. We tend to leave out the person being developed.
08:57:07 pm AnnieMOnline: RT @TriciaRansom: Q3) What should be included? What about a crowd-sourced model created by those who actually do the job? #lrnchat
08:57:14 pm JaneBozarth: Yes, but not just anyone… MT @TriciaRansom: Q3) What about a crowd-sourced model created by those who actually do the job? #lrnchat
08:57:31 pm criticallearner: RT @jadekaz: q3) the voice of the person held to the competencies #lrnchat
08:57:40 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) Include the people who interact downstream and upstream from those who perform the role. They really know what good looks like? #lrnchat
08:57:59 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: Yes, but not just anyone MT @TriciaRansom: Q3) crowd-sourced model created by who actually do job? #lrnchat < elitist!
08:58:04 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator org execution; can’t practice what it preaches. #lrnchat
08:58:12 pm JD_Dillon: A3) Following @JaneBozarth’s lead – build in flexibility. The business will change, so must core competencies #lrnchat
08:58:19 pm kellygarber: q3 – critical identified, specific examples of what good, better or best of each behavior would look like, #lrnchat
08:58:22 pm LnDDave: Q3) developing a model with people that understand today isn’t enough; you also need people who understand tomorrow. #lrnchat
08:58:26 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator org execution; can’t practice what it preaches. #lrnchat
08:58:27 pm criticallearner: RT @quinnovator: a2) appears upside of competency models is definition of progression, downside is potential for brittleness #lrnchat
08:58:34 pm TriciaRansom: Last tweet was not a question…it was a statement. But in a questioning mood tonight, so maybe I’ll just keep asking questions? #lrnchat
08:58:38 pm JaneBozarth: @TriciaRansom I agree in theory but question that everyone is equal/has best interests. Some just want to maintain status quo #lrnchat
08:58:44 pm Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q3) developing a model with people that understand today isn’t enough; you also need people who understand tomorrow. #lrnchat
08:59:13 pm JaneBozarth: @TriciaRansom I know plenty who would be very happy to say ‘training’ competencies = about good lecture and pretty slides #lrnchat
08:59:22 pm TriciaRansom: @JaneBozarth Me too…I’m in my happy place and picturing an IDEAL model! #lrnchat
08:59:25 pm JaneBozarth: YES RT @LnDDave: Q3) developing a model with people that understand today isnt enough; you also need people who understand tomorrow #lrnchat
08:59:33 pm kelly_smith01: Each competency may have categories –> eg social, psycho-motor, company focus (there are better ones) #lrnchat
08:59:35 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat I keep getting stuck on too much definition and setting people on rails as “building competency”- often you get it just by working.
08:59:37 pm kellygarber: q3 – a purpose #lrnchat
08:59:57 pm Quinnovator: RT @kellygarber: q3 – a purpose #lrnchat < heretic!🙂
08:59:58 pm JD_Dillon: A3) Core competencies must be ingrained in the culture, not just listed in the performance management system #lrnchat
09:00:12 pm TriciaRansom: @JaneBozarth Training competencies = clip art application, overhead projectors and lots of T/F exams #lrnchat
09:00:29 pm Quinnovator: RT @JD_Dillon: A3) Core competencies must be ingrained in the culture, not just listed in the performance management system #lrnchat
09:00:34 pm MilnerKempCorp: #bones #dwts #glee #gossipgirl #graysanatomy #idol #lrnchat #mlearning @Mayerjs #sharktank #survivor #teachers #theoffice #thevoice #xfactor
09:00:38 pm jadekaz: RT @Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q3) […]also need people who understand tomorrow. >> Yes. leadership skills built into each comp #lrnchat
09:00:41 pm scogill: what an idea! RT @kellygarber: q3 – a purpose #lrnchat
09:00:49 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) Any competency model MUST be based on the values and culture of the organization or else it will fail. #lrnchat
09:00:53 pm atomic_learning: How are other districts integrating #edtech? Check out our case studies http://t.co/4EAGZJ115N #cpchat #lrnchat
09:00:59 pm AmandaMoerles: RT @LnDDave: Q3) developing a model with people that understand today isn’t enough; you also need people who understand tomorrow. #lrnchat
09:01:07 pm criticallearner: Q3 #lrnchat CLEAR distinction between different levels of competence (and the competencies themselves). Too often, muddied.
09:01:14 pm JaneBozarth: we keep talking RE org/its employees. what about professional assoc that sets ‘competencies’ for members, workers not their own?
#lrnchat
09:01:20 pm LnDDave: Q3) An understanding of not only how the work is done, but why the work is done. #lrnchat
09:01:28 pm criticallearner: RT @scogill: what an idea! RT @kellygarber: q3 – a purpose #lrnchat
09:01:32 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) And the compentency model must be lived each day by each person…not once a year during performance review time. #lrnchat
09:01:35 pm kelly_smith01: Comp models want people to color within the lines and face the front of the room #lrnchat
09:01:39 pm jadekaz: RT @TriciaRansom: Q3) Any competency model MUST be based on values and culture of the organization or else it will fail. >> So true #lrnchat
09:01:48 pm OU812Jensen: #lrnchat A3) org. and leaders need to inspect what they inspect, model expectations and walk the talk – not just lip service
09:01:50 pm Quinnovator: a3) query: can competency model include meta-cog/learning? Seems ‘ongoing improvement’ or some such should be component #lrnchat
09:02:05 pm JD_Dillon: A3) Employees should be able to list the competencies without even knowing they ARE the competencies (if you know what I mean) #lrnchat
09:02:14 pm TriciaRansom: RT @JaneBozarth: keep talking RE org/its emps. what about professional assoc that sets ‘competencies’ for members, workers not own? #lrnchat
09:02:23 pm lrnchat: Q4) If you were to create a competency model for workers in your org, who should be involved in the development and why? #lrnchat
09:02:35 pm kellygarber: RT @Quinnovator: RT @kellygarber: q3 – a purpose #lrnchat < heretic!🙂 I know …silly me! #lrnchat
09:02:36 pm criticallearner: @janebozarth I like this modeling better- because it seems clear it is for benefit of a profession, not “rank and weed” employees. #lrnchat
09:02:49 pm TriciaRansom: RT @JD_Dillon: A3) Employees should be able to list the competencies without even knowing they ARE the competencies ( #lrnchat
09:03:13 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q4) If you were to create a competency model for workers in your org, who should be involved in development and why #lrnchat
09:03:24 pm JaneBozarth: I just developed the Awesome Competency Model and for $1999 I can help you get the certificate in being Awesome. #lrnchat
09:03:29 pm jadekaz: q4) check points, rubrics, self remediation and directed resources. If I had all the time in the world #lrnchat
09:03:51 pm JD_Dillon: RT @lrnchat: Q4) If you were to create a competency model for your org, who should be involved in the development and why? #lrnchat
09:04:03 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) Here we have a consulting company who has interviewed 1 high-performer/role as ID’ed by management #lrnchat
09:04:03 pm JaneBozarth: @criticallearner right, but where does it go in the talk about ‘alignment’? #lrnchat
09:04:06 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: just developed the Awesome Competency Model: for $1999 I can help you get certificate in being Awesome #lrnchat < ooh!
09:04:11 pm kelly_smith01: Q4) Use an “outside party” to observe & gather required data 4 model. Must be non-bias #lrnchat
09:04:26 pm criticallearner: @jd_dillon Yeah- it’s “I know what the core of my work is and it’s purpose” #lrnchat
09:04:30 pm JD_Dillon: A4) Those who define success and those who will be expected to perform the competencies #lrnchat
09:04:39 pm LnDDave: @JaneBozarth my awesome model certification costs $2,499… Because it’s more awesome. #lrnchat
09:04:54 pm TriciaRansom: I just developed the Super Duper Awesome Compentency Model and for $1995 I can certify you as Super Duper Awesome #lrnchat
09:05:08 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q4) If you were to create a competency model for your org, who should be involved in the development and why? #lrnchat
09:05:08 pm OU812Jensen: #lrnchat A4)it’s all linked to felt vs. ascribed needs just get back to basics stop making it so darn complicated -engage and collaborate
09:05:16 pm lodtrain: Q4) starts from a climate (whats happening in org) survey and involved are steering com sr leaders/sponors, functional area and HR #lrnchat
09:05:27 pm scogill: Q4) talk with managers to know what’s expected – and get someone to observe day to day to see what’s actually happening #lrnchat
09:05:51 pm criticallearner: @kelly_smith01 As a touchpoint, but I do think internal stakeholders to validate are key #lrnchat
09:05:52 pm Quinnovator: a4) those who do, those who know, those who receive, and those who oversee? #lrnchat
09:06:05 pm kelly_smith01: @JaneBozarth Do I get a certificate and a handy lamented workbook #lrnchat
09:06:10 pm JaneBozarth: @LnDDave That’s just for the basic level. For $3999 I can make you super-double master awesome AND you can be a trainer. #lrnchat
09:06:11 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) Doesn’t the WHY of model being developed determine the WHO is involved? #lrnchat
09:06:12 pm kellygarber: q4 – focus group selected by peers – respect for results. begin with industry standard – customize for culture, etc. #lrnchat
09:06:12 pm jadekaz: Q4) Just reading about the Critical Incidence Technique – to root out best performance/behavior…and stories to illustrate #lrnchat
09:06:55 pm jadekaz: RT @criticallearner: @kelly_smith01 As touchpoint but I do think internal stakeholders to validate are key >> Of course. Must pilot #lrnchat
09:07:00 pm LnDDave: RT @Quinnovator: a4) those who do, those who know, those who receive, and those who oversee? #lrnchat
09:07:05 pm JaneBozarth: 4 People struggle with the idea of ‘competence’. We want it to be ‘excellence’. #lrnchat
09:07:12 pm Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: Q4) Use an “outside party” #lrnchat < isn’t where gets expensive? Trust insiders?
09:07:34 pm kellygarber: q4 – you aren’t inventing the wheel, just the spokes #lrnchat
09:07:35 pm jadekaz: @JaneBozarth I’d pay an extra grand for some letters after my name. #lrnchat
09:07:37 pm AmandaMoerles: A4) anyone who is supposed to reach these competencies, and those who are setting the competencies to explain them. #peru552 #lrnchat
09:07:54 pm Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: @JaneBozarth Do I get a certificate and a handy laminated workbook #lrnchat < and the slides! Can I have the slides?
09:08:09 pm LnDDave: Q4) Those who understand how the work is done, and those with the ability to consider how the work could be done. #lrnchat
09:08:11 pm JaneBozarth: @jadekaz i can get you letters and your own hashtag. #lrnchat
09:08:15 pm kelly_smith01: @Quinnovator Just trying to avoid bias – perhaps I am over thinking #lrnchat
09:08:21 pm OU812Jensen: “@JaneBozarth: 4 People struggle with the idea of ‘competence’. We want it to be ‘excellence’. #lrnchat” which means jack in the end
09:08:39 pm LnDDave: Q4) People who understand how the work of today is going to be impacted by the technology of tomorrow. #lrnchat
09:08:46 pm TriciaRansom: RT @Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: @JaneBozarth Do I get certificate & handy laminated workbook #lrnchat < Can I have the slides? < and CD?
09:09:09 pm kellygarber: RT @LnDDave: Q4) Those who understand how the work is done, and those with the ability to consider how the work could be done. #lrnchat
09:09:12 pm JaneBozarth: @OU812Jensen it speaks to who should be involved in developing the model. #lrnchat
09:09:13 pm jadekaz: @JaneBozarth And a badge for my blog? Awwwwwesoommmmme #lrnchat
09:09:17 pm kelly_smith01: @JaneBozarth I will need a free webinar demo – to decide #lrnchat
09:09:18 pm criticallearner: @janebozarth #lrnchat I always liked the “Total Screwup” “Learning on a Leash” “First steps on their own” “They can go it” “Ninja” scale
09:09:33 pm JaneBozarth: @TriciaRansom y’all can’t have my slides but the workbook is SPIRAL BOUND. #lrnchat
09:09:39 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) I want people who can re-imagine how the work should be done, not those who follow as-is to just be competent #lrnchat
09:10:04 pm TriciaRansom: RT @JaneBozarth: @TriciaRansom y’all can’t have my slides but the workbook is SPIRAL BOUND. #lrnchat < Certificate printed in color too?
09:10:21 pm ActivateLearn: Hi! I missed #lrnchat but only competency I’m working on today is eating hot cross buns & chocolate eggs as its Good Friday. Happy Easter!
09:10:23 pm lodtrain: Q4) Dont forget about the change mgt, awareness side, comunicate, get feedback, focus groups. #lrnchat
09:10:31 pm criticallearner: @kelly_smith01 It is a good idea (but even they are biased), but the hard, ingrained politics are mitigated to a large degree #lrnchat
09:10:35 pm lrnchat: Q5) How can I use a competency model for my own development? #lrnchat
09:10:45 pm LnDDave: RT @TriciaRansom: Q4) I want people who can re-imagine how the work should be done, not those who follow as-is to just be competent #lrnchat
09:10:48 pm kellygarber: RT @JaneBozarth: @TriciaRansom yall cant have my slides but the workbook is SPIRAL BOUND. <- you just blew the trning budget #lrnchat
09:11:01 pm jadekaz: Q4) Can’t overlook examples and, more important, non-examples #lrnchat
09:11:11 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q5) How can I use a competency model for my own development? #lrnchat
09:11:11 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q5) How can I use a competency model for my own development? #lrnchat
09:11:26 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q5) How can I use a competency model for my own development? #lrnchat
09:11:35 pm DonnaBrumlow: #lrnchat For students, formative and summative assessments with feedback and interventions for required standards.
09:11:38 pm criticallearner: @triciaransom I would say that is a competence level- sorta like the kid who needs sheet music vs the jazz master. #lrnchat
09:11:43 pm kellygarber: q5 – self-directed learning tool. identify what I didn’t know I don’t know #lrnchat
09:11:47 pm kelly_smith01: Q5) I would have to create a new model each week #lrnchat
09:11:53 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q5) How can I use a competency model for my own development? #lrnchat
09:11:58 pm TriciaRansom: Q5) If, and thats a big if, IF I want to follow identified pathways, I can self-identify my learning needs to grow in certain areas #lrnchat
09:11:59 pm Quinnovator: a5) serves as a benchmark, the lowest hurdle you need to overcome. Though does it describe outcome and not path? #lrnchat
09:12:09 pm lodtrain: Q5) Competency for my development is to know how I want to develop/what i need 2 do 2 get the right training, mentoring2get there #lrnchat
09:12:11 pm JD_Dillon: RT @lrnchat: Q5) How can I use a competency model for my own development? #lrnchat
09:12:15 pm hjarche: @lrnchat competency models turn human work into a commodity #lrnchat
09:12:23 pm OU812Jensen: #lrnchat A5) highlights strengths and potential knowledge gaps, links to development plan, coaching, mentoring, training etc.
09:12:30 pm TriciaRansom: Q5) Has anyone asked the question about cross-competencies? ie I’m in sales, but I want to move to IT? #lrnchat
09:12:50 pm JaneBozarth: q5 can help you identify where you could build more, where you could get more balance. or in my case, which ones to ignore… #lrnchat
09:12:53 pm JD_Dillon: A5) Checks and balances. If I can’t do those things, I have a problem. If I can, keep going and don’t narrow focus. #lrnchat
09:13:04 pm criticallearner: Q5 #lrnchat> “What are skills I need to be relevant in the future?” (i.e. Mobile dev skills). What are starting competencies, next steps..
09:13:09 pm scogill: Q5) find the comp. model of the job I want and work towards it! #lrnchat
09:13:18 pm kellygarber: q5 – use the models to help determine whether or not a new role would be a good fit for my skills, interests #lrnchat
09:13:18 pm jadekaz: Q5) The continuum of skills can offer, traditional through emerging, across the SAM levels (job, work, org) #lrnchat
09:13:19 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q5) How can I use a competency model for my own development? #lrnchat
09:13:30 pm JaneBozarth: Q5 can paint a picture of what the Industry with a capital I is focusing on/interested in #lrnchat
09:13:53 pm TriciaRansom: Q5) Model may help me see where I need to develop, but how do I prove that I have developed if not assigned to that compentency? #lrnchat
09:13:54 pm kellygarber: RT @scogill: Q5) find the comp. model of the job I want and work towards it! <- exactly! #lrnchat
09:13:55 pm criticallearner: RT @hjarche: @lrnchat competency models turn human work into a commodity #lrnchat
09:14:16 pm JaneBozarth: MT @criticallearner Q5 “What are skills I need to be relevant in the future?” (i.e. Mobile dev skills). #lrnchat
09:14:25 pm Quinnovator: RT @hjarche: @lrnchat competency models turn human work into commodity #lrnchat < must, or can? “make decisions under uncertainty about X”?
09:14:33 pm JaneBozarth: Hey did @aaronesilvers only turn up so he could make that joke? #lrnchat
09:14:34 pm criticallearner: RT @kellygarber: RT @scogill: Q5) find the comp. model of the job I want and work towards it! <- exactly! #lrnchat
09:14:56 pm lesleywprice: Up late trying to follow #lrnchat …not easy as some peeps don’t use either A or Q numbers😦
09:15:13 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth @aaronesilvers *claimed* it was spontaneous…(ahem) #lrnchat
09:15:20 pm criticallearner: RT @triciaransom: Self-reflection, self-assessment, peer assessment. Doesn’t have to come from the top or formal channels #lrnchat
09:15:27 pm TriciaRansom: Q5) Compentency models only help me self-develop if the model has identified accurate and current skills/areas. #lrnchat
09:15:39 pm lesleywprice: RT @ActivateLearn: Hi! I missed #lrnchat but only competency I’m working on today is eating hot cross buns & chocolate eggs as its Good Friday. Happy Easter!
09:16:03 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator i see. #lrnchat
09:16:11 pm JaneBozarth: RT @triciaransom: Self-reflection, self-assessment, peer assessment. Doesnt have to come from the top or formal channels #lrnchat
09:16:11 pm kelly_smith01: RT @TriciaRansom: Q5) Compentency models only help me self-develop if the model has identified accurate and current skills/areas. #lrnchat
09:16:12 pm LnDDave: Q5) It helps build awareness to skill areas you may not have thought to develop otherwise. #lrnchat
09:16:16 pm aaronesilvers: @JaneBozarth yes. Yes he did. #lrnchat
09:16:22 pm TriciaRansom: @lesleywprice Why are you still awake? #lrnchat
09:16:27 pm AmandaMoerles: A5: help me find what areas I have achieved and which areas I need to work on more as an educator. #peru552 #lrnchat
09:16:28 pm criticallearner: Q5 #lrnchat> Twitter use may be something that you are competent at, but never had a competency assigned or training #justsayin’
09:16:32 pm aaronesilvers: @Quinnovator @JaneBozarth yes. Yes it was. #lrnchat
09:16:35 pm hjarche: L&D is mentally trapped in the “org chart/job/role/task/competency model” trap http://t.co/Po0emVIW5w #lrnchat
09:16:50 pm Quinnovator: RT @criticallearner: Q5 #lrnchat> Twitter use may be something that you are competent at, but never had a competency assigned or training #justsayin’
09:16:55 pm jadekaz: @TriciaRansom Competency models only work if I believe and – concurrently – the market believes them #lrnchat
09:17:05 pm TriciaRansom: RT @jadekaz: @TriciaRansom Competency models only work if I believe and – concurrently – the market believes them #lrnchat
09:17:42 pm Quinnovator: RT @jadekaz Competency models only work if I believe and – concurrently – the market believes them #lrnchat < if we all clap our hands
09:17:58 pm kellygarber: RT @AmandaMoerles: A5: help me find what areas I have achieved and which areas I need to work on more as an educator. #peru552 #lrnchat
09:18:00 pm carlspies: RT @hjarche: L&D is mentally trapped in the “org chart/job/role/task/competency model” trap http://t.co/Po0emVIW5w #lrnchat
09:18:07 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) I worked at a job where my compentency for high performer was “Create and present powerpoint presentations and lectures” #lrnchat
09:18:10 pm lesleywprice: RT @TriciaRansom Why are you still awake? #lrnchat < annual leave aka vacation…so don’t have to get up for work tomorrow🙂
09:18:21 pm lrnchat: Q6) How can I use a competency model for the professional development of my team / staff? #lrnchat
09:18:25 pm jadekaz: Would be interesting to see a life or death competency model – ER room, army mission, etc. #lrnchat
09:18:37 pm TriciaRansom: @lesleywprice I wanna go on vacation! #lrnchat
09:18:38 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator i think people do not use ‘competence’ and ‘competency’ to mean the same thing. #lrnchat
09:18:58 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q6) How can I use a competency model for the professional development of my team / staff? #lrnchat
09:19:02 pm JaneBozarth: RT @hjarche: L&D is mentally trapped in the “org chart/job/role/task/competency model” trap http://t.co/zvmdAyVFOm #lrnchat
09:19:02 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q6) How can I use a competency model for the professional development of my team / staff? #lrnchat
09:19:15 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator i think people do not use ‘competence’ and ‘competency’ to mean the same thing. #lrnchat < good point!
09:19:27 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q6) How can I use a competency model for the professional development of my team / staff? #lrnchat
09:19:34 pm TriciaRansom: RT @JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator i think people do not use ‘competence’ and ‘competency’ to mean the same thing. #lrnchat
09:19:36 pm jadekaz: Q6) Does this count? Starting a team “computer club” to ensure keeping up to date with Jane Hart’s 100 tools and the like #lrnchat
09:20:03 pm kellygarber: q6 – identify gaps, set perf. goals, change the tone of performance support #lrnchat
09:20:18 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q6) How can I use a competency model for the professional development of my team / staff? #lrnchat
09:20:27 pm JaneBozarth: RT @kellygarber: q6 – identify gaps, set perf. goals, change the tone of performance support #lrnchat
09:20:27 pm OU812Jensen: #lrnchat a6) highlights strenghts, value brings to the team, input into development plan, actionable and measurable, creates a story and pat
09:20:33 pm TriciaRansom: Q6) This is where I use professional org compentencies (ie ASTD) to measure myself/team against others in profession, not cube farm #lrnchat
09:20:42 pm JD_Dillon: RT @lrnchat: Q6) How can I use a competency model for the professional development of my team / staff? #lrnchat
09:20:43 pm lesleywprice: @TriciaRansom I am having #staycation …waiting for snow to melt so I can prepare garden for #spring ..#lrnchat
09:20:54 pm lodtrain: Q6) have team rate themselves & where they r & how they want to dev, u do the same separately, then come tog and c where u align #lrnchat
09:21:02 pm tomspiglanin: RT @JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator i think people do not use ‘competence’ and ‘competency’ to mean the same thing. #lrnchat
09:21:06 pm JD_Dillon: A6) Set consistent expectations, align coaching and development efforts. #lrnchat
09:21:11 pm TriciaRansom: @lesleywprice It’s still snowing????? Yikes! #lrnchat
09:21:19 pm kelly_smith01: RT @kellygarber: q6 – identify gaps, set perf. goals, change the tone of performance support #lrnchat
09:21:23 pm LnDDave: Q5) I think a competency model can be valuable to L&D, if only to build awareness of the larger world or our work. #lrnchat
09:21:31 pm pinshe: RT @hjarche: L&D is mentally trapped in the “org chart/job/role/task/competency model” trap http://t.co/Po0emVIW5w #lrnchat
09:21:32 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q6) How can I use a competency model for the professional development of my team / staff? #lrnchat
09:21:41 pm criticallearner: @ou812jensen #lrnchat > Again, I struggle with the assumption that “actionable” “measurable” can miss a lot of alternate routes
09:21:48 pm JaneBozarth: @criticallearner @Quinnovator I think so, yes. was saying that it often isn’t, though. #lrnchat
09:22:29 pm AmandaMoerles: RT @kellygarber: q6 – identify gaps, set perf. goals, change the tone of performance support #lrnchat
09:22:31 pm kellygarber: MT @TriciaRansom Q6 This is where I use prof. org comps (ie ASTD) 2 measure myself/team against others in profession, not cube farm #lrnchat
09:22:36 pm kelly_smith01: Questions tonight meet competency model standards.#lrnchat
09:22:39 pm cammybean: #lrnchat q5) never heard term business acumen until I did a program for a client on their comp model. Since them, been trying to get some!
09:22:54 pm lesleywprice: @TriciaRansom wish peeps would use Q or A numbers there r some exp chatters who are not and makes chat hard to follow😦 #lrnchat
09:23:17 pm JaneBozarth: agreed RT @LnDDave
Q5) competency model can be valuable to L&D, if only to build awareness of the larger world or our work. #lrnchat
09:23:23 pm JaneBozarth: RT @kelly_smith01: Questions tonight meet competency model standards.#lrnchat
09:24:14 pm lirons: RT @hjarche: L&D is mentally trapped in the “org chart/job/role/task/competency model” trap http://t.co/Po0emVIW5w #lrnchat
09:24:20 pm criticallearner: @cammybean Read Ram Charan. He keeps it simple. Fun read. #lrnchat
09:24:27 pm TriciaRansom: Q6) Just thinking about Wall Street/Enron. All of them prolly hi-performers re Competency Models, but were they truly effective? #lrnchat
09:24:29 pm LnDDave: RT @kelly_smith01: Questions tonight meet competency model standards.#lrnchat
09:25:02 pm kelly_smith01: I would tell my team the comp model is not written in stone #lrnchat
09:25:14 pm JaneBozarth: hey look @cammybean ‘s here! #lrnchat
09:26:00 pm TriciaRansom: Q6) TO paraphrase from a brilliant tweet earlier, would tell team model is a coloring book, but please go outside the lines! #lrnchat
09:26:04 pm criticallearner: @triciaransom YES! Often, the measuring stick is so freakin’ off… #lrnchat That, and folks often “game the system” vs “do the job”.
09:26:19 pm lrnchat: QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourself. (Shameless plugs welcome.) #lrnchat
09:26:25 pm jadekaz: @kelly_smith01 Right. A discussion starter. Where are you, where are interests, any major gaps #lrnchat
09:26:30 pm OU812Jensen: #lrnchat A6) Potentially accountability has a role here, how good r we at holding people accountable for dong what they are suppose to be
09:26:35 pm TriciaRansom: CAMMYBEAN!!!! RT @JaneBozarth: hey look @cammybean ‘s here! #lrnchat
09:26:37 pm kelly_smith01: Break on through to the other side – competency model inhabitants #lrnchat
09:26:41 pm LnDDave: RT @kelly_smith01: I would tell my team the comp model is not written in stone #lrnchat
09:26:46 pm hjarche: @Quinnovator once you create the model, it starts to enclose the individual #lrnchat uncertainty has never been part of competency models
09:26:50 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourself. (Shameless plugs welcome.) #lrnchat
09:26:51 pm JD_Dillon: Providing real-time performance support while #lrnchat-ing AND watching recorded American Idol … now THAT’s competence!🙂
09:27:18 pm LnDDave: RT @janebozarth: hey look @cammybean ‘s here! #lrnchat << Next thing we’ll see is a rare White Elk making an appearance.😉
09:27:19 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat Have many of you had competencies/behaviors rated that truly had NO VALUE to the org? But you had to post points up somehow?
09:27:20 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourself. (Shameless plugs welcome.) #lrnchat
09:27:27 pm cammybean: @hjarche But isn’t a comp model useful to help match skills and talent needed with the people who have them? #lrnchat
09:27:29 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourself. (Shameless plugs welcome.) #lrnchat
09:27:45 pm tomspiglanin: RT @JaneBozarth: hey look @cammybean ‘s here! #lrnchat << woot woot better than me, I’m at dinner with the mrs…
09:27:49 pm TriciaRansom: Qwrap) This is tricia in San Jose (and yes, I know the way…) It’s been a BLAST #lrnchat
09:27:57 pm cammybean: @hjarche …maybe I don’t know how orgs really use them! #lrnchat
09:28:01 pm JaneBozarth: Jane, Raleigh-ish, headed to Melbourne next week for @aitd yay! #lrnchat
09:28:08 pm Quinnovator: @hjarche can’t it be a floor, not a ceiling or cage? Maybe uncertainty can/should be part of models #lrnchat
09:28:11 pm JD_Dillon: QWrap) JD from Orlando. Thanks for another engaging Thursday eve. Check out http://t.co/SpKyXQ6kTf (15 new events just added). #lrnchat
09:28:32 pm Quinnovator: that time already? Thanks to new and returning participants for another great #lrnchat
09:28:34 pm TriciaRansom: RT @criticallearner: #lrnchat Have many of you had competencies/behaviors rated that truly had NO VALUE to the org?
09:28:42 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat Seems not only are competency models/modeling not consistently defined, but I am not detecting many good experiences.
09:28:42 pm JaneBozarth: Plug: New edition of “Better than Bullet Points” ships in August. #lrnchat
09:29:01 pm JaneBozarth: @JD_Dillon good seeing you JD #lrnchat
09:29:09 pm lodtrain: QWrap thanks for another great #lrnchat ready to review my competency model for clickity click education
09:29:19 pm cammybean: @JaneBozarth yes, just in time for the wrap up! #timely #lrnchat
09:29:29 pm kellygarber: qwrap – kelly, freezing in florida (seriously!), shameless plug http://t.co/b4ZXFEch0l #lrnchat
09:29:29 pm LnDDave: @tomspiglanin AGAIN with the dinner excuse?🙂 #lrnchat
09:29:36 pm jadekaz: Qwrap) Today’s hats – crowdsourced content, curriculum evaluator, community architect. Tomorrow no one knows. Jade. Out. #lrnchat
09:29:41 pm lodtrain: RT @JaneBozarth: Plug: New edition of “Better than Bullet Points” ships in August. #lrnchat
09:29:41 pm OU812Jensen: #lrnchat Awrap) Cindy in Canada lovin my journal into social networking I have learned a ton since LSCon and the journey continues bring it!
09:29:44 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith Saying – till next week. Same Bat-chat group Same Bat-universe #lrnchat
09:29:46 pm JD_Dillon: @JaneBozarth You as well (and I was early this time)!🙂 #lrnchat
09:29:54 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, social competency definition advocate, learning experience design instigator, consultant/speaker/author #lrnchat
09:30:04 pm hjarche: @lesleywprice @TriciaRansom Q1,2,3,4,5,6 I think competency models constrain human creativity & are useless for net work #lrnchat
09:30:16 pm JaneBozarth: @criticallearner i think too often next shiny thing to org #lrnchat
09:30:56 pm lrnchat: Goodnight, and thanks for another great #lrnchat. See you next week at this same time.
09:31:36 pm tomspiglanin: Nice JD MT @JD_Dillon: Providing real-time perf. support while #lrnchat-ing & watching recorded American Idol … now THAT’s competence!
09:31:37 pm LnDDave: QWrap) David Kelly from NY, hoping you all look at competency models as foundational guildelines and not as absolutes. #lrnchat
09:31:57 pm hjarche: I have not been certified for the #lrnchat competency model, so I have nothing to add – bonsoir mes amis
09:31:58 pm cammybean: @LnDDave @janebozarth There’s a white elk? Where? #lrnchat
09:31:59 pm criticallearner: Qwrap #lrnchat> G’night all. David, Tampa.
09:32:32 pm tomspiglanin: @LnDDave yeah… (Tail between legs) altho it’s a reason not an excuse #LrnChat
09:33:26 pm tomspiglanin: @LnDDave it is only 6:30 here after all and the babysitter all arranged #LrnChat
09:34:04 pm hjarche: @cammybean orgs usually use competency models to keep people in their place, control salaries, and avoid litigation #lrnchat
09:34:06 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat After this chat, I am growing very cold on Competency Models and running to “Flexible development framework” (or something…)
09:34:08 pm LnDDave: @tomspiglanin A Babysitter? You’re pardoned. Enjoy! #lrnchat
09:34:17 pm kellygarber: gotta have it! RT @JaneBozarth Plug: New edition of “Better than Bullet Points” ships in August. #lrnchat
09:34:41 pm cammybean: #lrnchat Wrapping up before I even got started. The consciously incompetent Cammy from @kineo, developing my brain a bit more every day.
09:35:17 pm lesleywprice: @hjarche don’t disagree Harold…but in Twitter chat that can go off at tangents context is important and IMHO context is king #lrnchat🙂
09:35:35 pm cammybean: @hjarche well then, that’s a completely different reality than I had imagined! #lrnchat
09:37:28 pm whitneykilgore: RT @criticallearner: Q5 #lrnchat> Twitter use may be something that you are competent at, but never had a competency assigned or training #justsayin’

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