Transcript 2 August 2012 Unlearning

08:30:43 pm lrnchat: Hello everyone and welcome to #lrnchat. How have you been?
08:30:47 pm trainersleaders: Joining weekly live chat with workplace learning & performance colleagues via #lrnchat
08:31:21 pm britz: What?! 8:30! I need to stretch & cool down. #lrnchat I sorta wish I cld unlearn the importance of exercise right now. #sigh
08:31:31 pm lrnchat: Please introduce yourself. Name, specialties, interests, etc.? #lrnchat
08:31:59 pm stickylearning: Has been a long time since a #lrnchat visit. Have unlearnt how it all works, time to get back to speed.
08:32:07 pm chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Please introduce yourself. Name, specialties, interests, etc.? #lrnchat
08:32:39 pm learner4eva: Ann, Dir of OD, learning is my name! #Lrnchat
08:32:44 pm chet_stevenson: Chester Stevenson, Instructional Design/HPT, ISD Site Lead at Lockheed Martin #lrnchat
08:32:48 pm ThomasStone: Thomas Stone, from Rochester, NY. Hello fellow #lrnchat folks! I hope everyone’s summer is going well.
08:32:52 pm stickylearning: Michael Eury, Learning Designer in Melbourne Australia. #lrnchat
08:32:55 pm dawnjmahoney: Pardon the tweet storm -or better yet-join me! #Lrnchat
08:33:10 pm trainersleaders: q0) Paul Signorelli, San Francisco-based writer-trainer-consultant, blogging at http://t.co/0cRr3StT #lrnchat
08:33:12 pm JD_Dillon: JD from Orlando, gold medal Olympic watcher, sharer of knowledge … #lrnchat
08:33:18 pm eLearninCyclops: Jeff Goldman – eLearning Designer at Johns Hopkins in Baltimore, MD #lrnchat
08:33:43 pm lrnchat: Q0. We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:34:04 pm theASIDEblog: Design as tool for unlearning and thinking differently. #lrnchat
08:34:12 pm ActivateLearn: @lrnchat #lrnchat Hello everyone. Helen from Melbourne. Interests in L&D and social learning. Pretty crispy cold day here so need a coffee.
08:34:29 pm learner4eva: RT @lrnchat: Q0. We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #Lrnchat
08:34:46 pm dawnjmahoney: Dawn, Mgr L&D near Madison WI big day on the Twitter. Lover not a fighter. #Lrnchat
08:34:50 pm stickylearning: Q0 I learnt this week that homemade cookies are too delicious to stop at just one #lrnchat
08:35:06 pm stickylearning: RT @theASIDEblog: Design as tool for unlearning and thinking differently. #lrnchat
08:35:23 pm learner4eva: Q0) that the 2012 London Olympics tour fab five will be in my city! #Lrnchat
08:35:27 pm trainersleaders: q0) Today, I learned that a highly innovative experimental learning space for kids—Brightworks—exists right here in San Francisco #lrnchat
08:35:35 pm JD_Dillon: Quality feedback often comes in sandwich form, but sometimes you need to deliver and open-faced sandwich. #lrnchat
08:35:36 pm dawnjmahoney: @trainersleaders Yo Paul! #Lrnchat
08:35:51 pm ActivateLearn: Q0). Learned about the Pomodoro technique as never heard of it! http://t.co/2kwZi0hR #lrnchat
08:35:51 pm theASIDEblog: Learned that stained-glass will bend in the heat. #lrnchat
08:36:02 pm learner4eva: @ActivateLearn cold? Really? What temp? We are at 96 #Lrnchat
08:36:04 pm ActivateLearn: RT @lrnchat: Q0. We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:36:11 pm chet_stevenson: Q0) This week I saw the value of doing an FEA first hand. Reminded me that it doesn’t have to take forever to be valuable. #lrnchat
08:36:45 pm cnagel: Hello #lrnchat – I have missed you! Cyndi Nagel from Southern California Training Manager for the BEST sporting goods store EVER!
08:36:51 pm dawnjmahoney: @trainersleaders-just read about Brightworks yesterday! #Lrnchat
08:37:06 pm lilred_apagog: Hi #lrnchat! Kelly in NYC, trainer interested in change management.
08:37:08 pm JaneBozarth: Jane, author, troublemaker. Coming soon to a city near you: DC, Baltimore, Vegas, London, Hotlanta, Chicago, Nashville #lrnchat
08:37:08 pm Pball001: Thanks to Todd Chandler learned how to use Tweetdeck.
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08:37:13 pm theASIDEblog: Learned that design thinking is behind changes in products for children. #lrnchat
08:37:37 pm dawnjmahoney: Q0) learning that I like being off the road & stretching my development skills w/contract work #Lrnchat
08:37:53 pm ThomasStone: Great open house event tonight at @logicalops headquarters! Really nice to see so many old Element K friends and colleagues. #lrnchat
08:38:14 pm jmarrapodi: Jean Marrapodi, Providence, RI. Working at the intersection of high tech and low literacy. #Lrnchat
08:38:19 pm JD_Dillon: @JaneBozarth who’s the opening act on your world tour?🙂 #lrnchat
08:38:41 pm eLearninCyclops: Q0) Learned today – Things run smoother when the boss is on vacay🙂 #lrnchat
08:38:53 pm PML33T: I learned today my team of 5 & I completed 60 plus projects over the course of 6 fiscal years. Go team! #lrnchat
08:38:59 pm ThomasStone: .@JaneBozarth Whoa that is a lot of travel Jane! Busy, busy! #lrnchat
08:39:00 pm dawnjmahoney: Move to Hootsuite. Much better! RT @Pball001: Thanks to Todd Chandler learned how to use Tweetdeck. #Lrnchat
08:39:33 pm lrnchat: Q1) What is “Unlearning”? How would you define it? #lrnchat
08:39:55 pm dawnjmahoney: Me! RT @JD_Dillon: @JaneBozarth whos the opening act on your world tour?🙂 #Lrnchat
08:40:05 pm Pball001: @dawnjmahoney I’ll check it out thanks! #lrnchat
08:40:05 pm PurposeFinder: See my response to the question – How to Use Your #Network to Make Big Life Decisions via @captureyourflag http://t.co/nIUHMelJ #lrnchat
08:40:08 pm JD_Dillon: This week, I’ve learned that synchronized diving can hold my attention for almost 2 hours. #lrnchat
08:40:09 pm jmarrapodi: Q0) Learned that cottage cheese is a pathetic substitute for yogurt in a smoothie. Just saying’. #Lrnchat
08:40:25 pm 101grads: See my response to the question – How to Use Your #Network to Make Big Life Decisions via @captureyourflag http://t.co/AK4M18Kt #lrnchat
08:40:47 pm learner4eva: Q1) forgetting how to do something as you currently know it #Lrnchat
08:40:50 pm lilred_apagog: QO: even the most thought out training for a pilot program is in trouble when the customers don’t follow #lrnchat
08:40:51 pm britz: @JaneBozarth you failed to mention #syracuse #lrnchat🙂
08:40:58 pm chet_stevenson: Q1) What is “Unlearning”? How would you define it? #lrnchat
08:41:01 pm KathyKitch: @dawnjmahoney Why is Hootsuite better? #lrnchat
08:41:20 pm ChandrikaKhera: @lrnchat Hello, Chandrika here from San Jose, US. Instructional designer from last 12 years and a trained Montessori teacher. #lrnchat
08:41:27 pm ActivateLearn: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What is “Unlearning”? How would you define it? #lrnchat
08:41:31 pm trainersleaders: q1) Unlearning, for me, is that essential precursor to learning–setting aside wrong/outdated info/ideas for something new/useful #lrnchat
08:41:38 pm Pball001: @lrnchat If learning is a change in behavior, unlearning is a change of habits. #lrnchat
08:41:42 pm ChandrikaKhera: Q0- Learned that teaching seniors is as challenging and interesting as teaching children. Tutoring seniors on how to use computers #lrnchat
08:41:48 pm jmarrapodi: Q1) What is unlearning? How would you define it? #Lrnchat
08:41:57 pm JD_Dillon: A1) Unlearning can be purposeful or accidental. Good or bad. Either way, your KSAs change. #lrnchat
08:42:07 pm tomspiglanin: Tom here in my kitchen in Rancho Palos Verdes, CA. Evening all. #lrnchat
08:42:20 pm KathyKitch: @Pball001 I like that definition. #lrnchat
08:42:21 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @jmarrapodi: Q1) What is unlearning? How would you define it? #lrnchat
08:42:22 pm dawnjmahoney: @KathyKitch Short answer:it doesn’t lose ur tweets &DMs/possible to hv more columns #Lrnchat
08:42:26 pm aaronesilvers: RT @Pball001: @lrnchat If learning is a change in behavior, unlearning is a change of habits. #lrnchat
08:42:28 pm JD_Dillon: A1) To unlearn, you must be open to change and allow new information in to replace what was once there. #lrnchat
08:42:28 pm jmarrapodi: Q1) Unlearning is the recognition and correction of a mistaken notion. #Lrnchat
08:42:46 pm theASIDEblog: Unlearning is breaking routine habits to develop new ways of seeing. #lrnchat
08:42:53 pm chet_stevenson: Q1) If you need to unlearn content in order to learn something new it’s probably because the original content was automated. #lrnchat
08:42:56 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @jmarrapodi: Q1) Unlearning is the recognition and correction of a mistaken notion. #Lrnchat
08:43:05 pm KathyKitch: I have been forgetting things….am I unlearning, too? sheesh #lrnchat
08:43:05 pm tomspiglanin: Q0) I learned that taking days off work only means doing more the remaining days.😦 #lrnchat
08:43:13 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @JD_Dillon: A1) To unlearn, you must be open to change and allow new information in to replace what was once there. #lrnchat
08:43:14 pm trainersleaders: RT @Pball001: If learning is a change in behavior, unlearning is a change of habits. #lrnchat
08:43:19 pm ActivateLearn: @lrnchat Q1) To me,not necessarily discard what I have learned in the past but question it,reflect on it and see new applications #lrnchat
08:43:39 pm britz: Q0) I learned most everyone sees training as the alpha & omega for every performance issue! #exhausted #lrnchat
08:43:46 pm ChandrikaKhera: Unlearning is realizing that there are more ways of doing the same things and accepting those. #lrnchat
08:44:08 pm kmjs2002: RT @PML33T: I learned today my team of 5 & I completed 60 plus projects over the course of 6 fiscal years. Go team! #lrnchat
08:44:16 pm learner4eva: RT @tomspiglanin: Q0) I learned that taking days off work only means doing more the remaining days.😦 amen! #Lrnchat
08:44:21 pm ActivateLearn: RT @theASIDEblog: Unlearning is breaking routine habits to develop new ways of seeing. #lrnchat
08:44:23 pm theASIDEblog: Unlearning can be frustrating and requires persistence to focus on a different way of doing things. #lrnchat
08:44:31 pm ThomasStone: I first learned about unlearning in 1980: “You must unlearn what you have learned.” – Yoda to Luke #lrnchat
08:44:31 pm ActivateLearn: RT @ChandrikaKhera: Unlearning is realizing that there are more ways of doing the same things and accepting those. #lrnchat
08:44:32 pm jmarrapodi: RT @trainersleaders: RT @Pball001: If learning is a change in behavior, unlearning is a change of habits. #Lrnchat
08:44:33 pm JD_Dillon: A1) To learn, you often must unlearn. Deep … #lrnchat
08:44:34 pm aaronesilvers: RT @jmarrapodi: Q1) Unlearning is the recognition and correction of a mistaken notion. #Lrnchat
08:44:43 pm aaronesilvers: RT @ThomasStone: I first learned about unlearning in 1980: “You must unlearn what you have learned.” – Yoda to Luke #lrnchat
08:44:48 pm ChandrikaKhera: Unlearning doesn’t mean always discarding what you already know. You can relate the new learning with the old learning too. #lrnchat
08:44:52 pm tomspiglanin: Q1) unlearning the phrase “In my last org, we did it this way” #lrnchat
08:45:05 pm chet_stevenson: RT @trainersleaders: RT @Pball001: If learning is a change in behavior, unlearning is a change of habits. #lrnchat
08:45:18 pm juanjomoar: RT @Pball001: @lrnchat If learning is a change in behavior, unlearning is a change of habits. #lrnchat
08:45:18 pm ChandrikaKhera: In my case, I did a lot of unlearning of manual driving while learning the automatic driving. #lrnchat
08:45:20 pm learner4eva: RT @britz: Q0) I learned most everyone sees training as the alpha & omega for every performance issue!< & that only support is you #Lrnchat
08:45:38 pm ActivateLearn: Q1) But can we really unlearn something or just change the neural pathways? Reading Brain Rules at the moment (not now obviously) #lrnchat
08:45:40 pm britz: Q1) unlearning to me is the ability to deconstruct ur current understandings when confronted w/ new information #lrnchat
08:45:42 pm audioswhite: A little late hello #lrnchat . Q1) unlearning really means that you have learned to learn. Growing from what you know
08:45:49 pm ChandrikaKhera: RT @Pball001: @lrnchat If learning is a change in behavior, unlearning is a change of habits. #lrnchat
08:45:54 pm cnagel: Q1) For me unlearning is just recognizing that there may be a better way of doing something. #lrnchat
08:46:00 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @juanjomoar: RT @Pball001: @lrnchat If learning is a change in behavior, unlearning is a change of habits. #LrnChat
08:46:01 pm KathyKitch: @tomspiglanin I’ve heard that phrase and say (in my head) “then why aren’t you still there?” #lrnchat
08:46:07 pm lilred_apagog: @tomspiglanin Yes! Which is always followed by “Why?!” then… Silence #lrnchat
08:46:08 pm ThomasStone: Unlearning, or something akin to it, is critical to re-wire pathways like in cases of “muscle memory”. This arises often in life! #lrnchat
08:46:12 pm tomspiglanin: Q1) Unlearning – overcoming years of culture and history to look anew at things even when they don’t seem broke. #lrnchat
08:46:14 pm chet_stevenson: @ChandrikaKhera But if you have to unlearn something, it means the old materials is in the way of the new material. #lrnchat
08:46:23 pm britz: @tomspiglanin hiya Tom #lrnchat
08:46:36 pm ThomasStone: good example RT @ChandrikaKhera: In my case, I did a lot of unlearning of manual driving while learning the automatic driving. #lrnchat
08:46:45 pm aaronesilvers: Unlearning is intentionally breaking away a pattern, habit or truth. #lrnchat
08:47:03 pm theASIDEblog: It takes a lot of energy to help a child unlearn to memorize facts & convince them that it is not learning. #lrnchat
08:47:06 pm dawnjmahoney: ahem…🙂 RT @britz: @tomspiglanin hiya Tom #LrnChat
08:47:11 pm jmarrapodi: Q1) Unlearning is the process of revision of thinking. #Lrnchat
08:47:21 pm britz: RT @audioswhite: A little late hello #lrnchat . Q1) unlearning really means that you have learned to learn. Growing from what you know
08:47:25 pm chet_stevenson: RT @aaronesilvers: Unlearning is intentionally breaking away a pattern, habit or truth. #lrnchat
08:47:30 pm juanjomoar: RT @ThomasStone: I first learned about unlearning in 1980: “You must unlearn what you have learned.” – Yoda to Luke #lrnchat
08:47:46 pm dawnjmahoney: A1) Do we really unlearn? Or do we add another layer/s of learning? #LrnChat
08:47:48 pm Tracy_Parish: Evening #lrnchat. Nice to see you all.
08:47:50 pm Pball001: @chet_stevenson Not so – don’t you believe the mind has an infinite capacity to learn? #lrnchat
08:47:53 pm JD_Dillon: Sadly, unlearning often happens after learning when the “this is how we really do it here” takes over. #lrnchat
08:48:12 pm audioswhite: RT @aaronesilvers: Unlearning is intentionally breaking away a pattern, habit or truth. #lrnchat
08:48:13 pm cnagel: RT @thomasstone: I first learned about unlearning in 1980: “You must unlearn what you have learned.” – Yoda to Luke #lrnchat
08:48:13 pm tomspiglanin: @britz how are you mark? Hi @ActivateLearn Helen AND @dawnjmahoney Dawn! #LrnChat
08:48:23 pm ActivateLearn: RT @aaronesilvers: Unlearning is intentionally breaking away a pattern, habit or truth. #lrnchat
08:48:33 pm KathyKitch: I was hard-up for a clear definition; you all are helping me look at my own habits,patterns & methods. #lrnchat
08:48:36 pm britz: @dawnjmahoney hiya Dawn! :0) #lrnchat
08:48:37 pm theASIDEblog: History and repetition of poor policy need to be unlearned for new ideas to take hold. #lrnchat
08:48:43 pm Tracy_Parish: RT @KathyKitch: I have been forgetting things….am I unlearning, too? sheesh #lrnchat Ha, I hear ya.
08:48:53 pm trainersleaders: RT @ThomasStone Unlearning…is critical to re-wire pathways like in cases of “muscle memory”. This arises often in life! #lrnchat
08:49:00 pm jmarrapodi: Q1) unlearning is like cleaning out the refrigerator. Tossing the moldy ideas you shouldn’t have kept to make space for new ones. #Lrnchat
08:49:03 pm herbrcollins: @jmarrapodi …a mistaken notion or moving a person away from a former process. #Lrnchat
08:49:07 pm theASIDEblog: Teaching kids to unlearn memorizing is key to learning how to problem-solve. #lrnchat
08:49:13 pm Pball001: RT @aaronesilvers: intentionally breaking away a pattern, habit or truth. The key word is habit. #lrnchat
08:49:19 pm britz: @tomspiglanin very well sit. And you? #lrnchat
08:49:20 pm jmarrapodi: RT @ActivateLearn: RT @aaronesilvers: Unlearning is intentionally breaking away a pattern, habit or truth. #Lrnchat
08:49:21 pm cnagel: RT @theasideblog: History and repetition of poor policy need to be unlearned for new ideas to take hold. #lrnchat
08:49:28 pm StephenCHudson: 1. Unlearning is getting rid of your immediate, natural way to do/think of something in order to replace it with something better #lrnchat
08:49:31 pm Tracy_Parish: RT @ThomasStone: I first learned about unlearning in 1980: “You must unlearn what you have learned.” – Yoda to Luke #lrnchat
08:49:35 pm dawnjmahoney: @britz OK! Twice in one day! :+) #LrnChat
08:49:41 pm ActivateLearn: Q1) @jmarrapodi Then you should see my refrigerator. Let’s not go there. #lrnchat
08:49:44 pm chet_stevenson: @Pball001 I don’t know that I would say infinite… Behavior change and muscle memory is especially complex to unlearn (IMO). #lrnchat
08:49:50 pm jmarrapodi: @herbrcollins Hi Herb. Are you here on #Lrnchat
08:49:51 pm Folmerica: RT @theASIDEblog: Teaching kids to unlearn memorizing is key to learning how to problem-solve. #lrnchat
08:49:55 pm dawnjmahoney: @tomspiglanin Good, I’m good. And u? #LrnChat
08:49:58 pm aronsolomon: RT @aaronesilvers: Unlearning is intentionally breaking away a pattern, habit or truth. #lrnchat
08:49:59 pm tomspiglanin: At times, one or the other. RT @dawnjmahoney: A1) Do we really unlearn? Or do we add another layer/s of learning? #LrnChat
08:50:07 pm learner4eva: RT @theASIDEblog: Teaching kids to unlearn memorizing is key to learning how to problem-solve. < takeaway for adult learners too #Lrnchat
08:50:08 pm theASIDEblog: Parents ask why a poor grade, “my kid made flash cards, “ and your stomach drops. Tough to teach them to unlearn bad ideas. #lrnchat
08:50:43 pm trainersleaders: RT @jmarrapodi Unlearning is like cleaning out the refrigerator. Tossing moldy ideas you shouldn’t keep to make space for new ones #lrnchat
08:50:46 pm britz: @dawnjmahoney we need to stop meeting like this. Ppl will talk!! #lrnchat
08:50:53 pm dawnjmahoney: A1) K I m playing alone..I think we DONT unlearn. No way to erase only to add to our knowledge #LrnChat
08:50:55 pm theASIDEblog: Learning is unlearning rote ways of memorizing facts; we have search engines for that. #lrnchat
08:51:02 pm TeachThought: 12 Silent Saboteurs Of Innovation In Education http://t.co/xge9UOqm #lrnchat #edchat #edreform #education #edtech
08:51:10 pm Pball001: RT @chet_stevenson: @Pball001 muscle memory is especially complex to unlearn (IMO). This is specific to a skill. #lrnchat
08:51:24 pm lrnchat: Q2) When have you had to unlearn something in order to learn something new? #lrnchat
08:51:40 pm terryheick: RT @TeachThought: 12 Silent Saboteurs Of Innovation In Education http://t.co/xge9UOqm #lrnchat #edchat #edreform #education #edtech
08:51:52 pm dawnjmahoney: A1) Only unlearning I’ve kind of seen is w/our memory care residents/however much of it is in there/must be coaxed out #LrnChat
08:51:53 pm ActivateLearn: RT @dawnjmahoney: A1) K I m playing alone..I think we DONT unlearn. No way to erase only to add to our knowledge #LrnChat
08:51:53 pm MilnerKempCorp: #edapp #edtech #education @Mayerjs #elearning #lrnchat #mlearning #teachers
08:51:53 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @lrnchat: Q2) When have you had to unlearn something in order to learn something new? #lrnchat
08:51:55 pm JD_Dillon: RT @lrnchat: Q2) When have you had to unlearn something in order to learn something new? #lrnchat
08:52:01 pm aaronesilvers: I’d argue that to unlearn one has to be skilled at pattern recognition. I may be getting ahead of today’s #lrnchat with more ?s coming.
08:52:05 pm learner4eva: @dawnjmahoney We unlearn old locker combinations, how to fix things, etc. #Lrnchat
08:52:09 pm jmarrapodi: RT @lrnchat: Q2) When have you had to unlearn something in order to learn something new? #Lrnchat
08:52:11 pm cnagel: RT @lrnchat: Q2) When have you had to unlearn something in order to learn something new? #lrnchat
08:52:27 pm ThomasStone: Unlearning shouldn’t be confused with the infamous Forgetting Curve, i.e., quickly forgetting most of what was taught in training. #lrnchat
08:52:34 pm britz: @tomspiglanin @dawnjmahoney unlearning does not equal forgetting … Which may not really exist anyway… Ugh forget it .. If u can #lrnchat
08:52:36 pm ActivateLearn: RT @lrnchat: Q2) When have you had to unlearn something in order to learn something new? #lrnchat
08:52:38 pm learner4eva: RT @lrnchat: Q2) When have you had to unlearn something in order to learn something new? #Lrnchat
08:53:05 pm theASIDEblog: Parents & teachers think their way of learning worked. Wrong, most didn’t have the Internet, YouTube, Google, etc. #lrnchat
08:53:07 pm JD_Dillon: A2) Social and org communication has caused me to unlearn many of my academic writing habits. #lrnchat
08:53:11 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @lrnchat: Q2) When have you had to unlearn something in order to learn something new? #LrnChat
08:53:27 pm jmarrapodi: Q2) had to revise my thinking about learning styles. Guess that’s unlearning. #Lrnchat
08:53:33 pm eLearninCyclops: Q2) Working with a new boss &/or team. Unlearn some styles of communication used with prior that does not work w the new #lrnchat
08:53:37 pm PML33T: Unlearning is like trying to relearn a board game someone taught u incorrectly. Unfortunately I’ve taught others incorrect way🙂 #lrnchat
08:53:39 pm dawnjmahoney: @britz LOLOL! Like washing ur brain out w/soap? #LrnChat
08:53:47 pm trainersleaders: q2) Seems as if I often am unlearning things I thought were true so I can learn new true things that will turn out to be untrue #lrnchat
08:53:54 pm ActivateLearn: Are we confusing unlearning with forgetting? I think they’re two separate things. Still thinking about Q2 – tough one! #lrnchat
08:54:05 pm ThomasStone: .@learner4eva Ugh… locker combinations? Why did you have to mention that? Nightmare fuel! LOL #lrnchat
08:54:24 pm dawnjmahoney: dont think so/its in there somewhere RT @learner4eva: We unlearn old locker combinations, how to fix things, etc. #LrnChat
08:54:30 pm LnDDave: Greetings #lrnchat. David from New York, checking in a little late. Hope everyone is well.
08:54:31 pm aaronesilvers: Q2) as a kid I had a twisted back and had to unlearn my natural posture and adopt a new one. #lrnchat
08:54:32 pm chet_stevenson: @Pball001 True but the context of the question is open-ended. Unlearning can be both Cognitive AND Psychomotor. #lrnchat
08:54:37 pm britz: Something came up. Gotta bow out – have fun folks!! #lrnchat
08:54:53 pm chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Q2) When have you had to unlearn something in order to learn something new? #lrnchat
08:54:58 pm JD_Dillon: RT @ActivateLearn: Are we confusing unlearning with forgetting? I think theyre two separate things. <—- agreed! #lrnchat
08:54:59 pm learner4eva: @ThomasStone lol. Kids getting ready for back to school. It was on my mind. Lol #Lrnchat
08:55:03 pm kat_frame: #lrnchat can anyone recommend good readings about unlearning?
08:55:07 pm ActivateLearn: Q2) Going out on limb here to say we can’t unlearn something.Otherwise we’re learning.It’s a paradox. Using wrong verb? #lrnchat
08:55:10 pm PML33T: Early in my career, I had to unlearn ways of communicating I was taught in my culture, that do not work in every situation. #lrnchat
08:55:14 pm MsNJH23: RT @theASIDEblog: It takes a lot of energy to help a child unlearn to memorize facts & convince them that it is not learning. #lrnchat
08:55:36 pm LnDDave: RT @jmarrapodi: Q2) had to revise my thinking about learning styles. Guess that’s unlearning. #Lrnchat
08:55:37 pm tomspiglanin: @britz @dawnjmahoney LOL, Mark! Who are you guys again? #LrnChat
08:56:03 pm theASIDEblog: Kids who have learned one way, have a tough time when challenged to critically THINK. Need to unlearn. #lrnchat
08:56:04 pm barhamchristy: RT @theASIDEblog Learning is unlearning rote ways of memorizing facts; we have search engines for that. #lrnchat
08:56:06 pm PML33T: Students switching martial arts styles sometimes have to unlearn habits from one style before grasping the new style. #lrnchat
08:56:07 pm learner4eva: @PML33T good example #Lrnchat
08:56:09 pm JD_Dillon: @ActivateLearn very ‘Back to the Future’ space time continuum🙂 #lrnchat
08:56:14 pm lilred_apagog: Q2: We have to unlearn processes as tech changes constantly. How to find the best resource for people to support the changes? #lrnchat
08:56:21 pm trainersleaders: @ActivateLearn: An example of unlearning vs. forgetting–unlearning how to do something in a software program to master a new one #lrnchat
08:56:59 pm JD_Dillon: A2) Over the years, I’ve learned and unlearned how to best support my teams, natural evolution of leadership #lrnchat
08:57:33 pm PML33T: RT @JD_Dillon: A2) Over the years, Ive learned and unlearned how to best support my teams, natural evolution of leadership #lrnchat
08:57:37 pm jmarrapodi: Q2) the book – I Used to Think…And Now I Think : 20 Educators Reflect on School Reform has unlearning #Lrnchat
08:58:01 pm trainersleaders: Oh, my head hurts! RT @ActivateLearn We can’t unlearn something. Otherwise we’re learning. It’s a paradox. Using wrong verb? #lrnchat
08:58:02 pm audioswhite: Q2) my immediate thought personally is developing a new technique/approach to a musical instrument. Unlearning takes work and will #lrnchat
08:58:05 pm chet_stevenson: Q2) Took a course for the Army and then had to take a similar course for the Coast Guard. They were similar, but different enough. #lrnchat
08:58:20 pm ChandrikaKhera: @chet_stevenson Unlearning is knowing that existing knowledge and skills are for TaskA. Learn new skills for Task B. (1/2) #lrnchat
08:58:23 pm jmarrapodi: Q2) Had to unlearn where the light switch was when we reworked the kitchen #Lrnchat
08:58:24 pm ThomasStone: Interesting counterfactual: The way Trinity and Neo “learned” things in the Matrix… just additive, so no “unlearning” needed? #lrnchat
08:58:26 pm mizminh: I have heard & found it so – the unlearning curve[status quo, comfort zones, neophobia]is much steeper than the learning curve #lrnchat
08:58:36 pm ChandrikaKhera: @chet_stevenson We have to compartmentalize the information. (2/2) #lrnchat
08:59:11 pm jmarrapodi: Hmmmm RT @ActivateLearn We cant unlearn something. Otherwise were learning. Its a paradox. Using wrong verb? #Lrnchat
08:59:18 pm KathyKitch: I had to unlearn a CPR technique to do it correctly the new way.
#lrnchat
08:59:26 pm Pball001: Do we un-learn or overwrite the mental software? #lrnchat
08:59:34 pm jmarrapodi: @mizminh neophobia??? #Lrnchat
08:59:36 pm ActivateLearn: @JD_Dillon @trainerleaders Q2) Yes my head is beginning to hurt too just thinking it over too much.#lrnchat
08:59:37 pm JD_Dillon: @ThomasStone +1 for any educational application of a Keanu Reeves film🙂 #lrnchat
08:59:44 pm dawnjmahoney: A2) “Learning from your mistakes” exists #LrnChat
08:59:47 pm PML33T: RT @mizminh I have heard & found it so – unlearning curve[status quo, comfort zones, neophobia]is much steeper than learning curve #lrnchat
08:59:54 pm ExpertusONE: RT @dawnjmahoney: RT @lrnchat: Q2) When have you had to unlearn something in order to learn something new? #LrnChat
08:59:55 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @jmarrapodi: Hmmmm RT @ActivateLearn We cant unlearn something. Otherwise were learning. Its a paradox. Using wrong verb? #LrnChat
08:59:55 pm chet_stevenson: @ChandrikaKhera I suppose it depends on how we define unlearning. To me “unlearning” means you need to forget the old content/way. #lrnchat
09:00:14 pm JaneBozarth: @Pball001 not sure the distinction matters. replacing old with something else. #lrnchat
09:00:21 pm tomspiglanin: RT @lrnchat: Q2) When have you had to unlearn something in order to learn something new? #lrnchat
09:00:24 pm Dave_Ferguson: One dictionary meaning for unlearn: to put out of memory (like ignore or forget)… #lrnchat
09:00:40 pm theASIDEblog: Colleges need to un-program students who learned only to take tests and devour content with little regard for thinking. #lrnchat
09:00:47 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q2) When have you had to unlearn something in order to learn something new? #lrnchat
09:00:52 pm PML33T: If you take it strictly literally🙂 @jmarrapodi Hmmmm @ActivateLearn cant unlearn something Otherwise were learning Its a paradox #lrnchat
09:00:53 pm LnDDave: Q2) I used to think I was a good teacher, until I realized people weren’t learning from listening to me talk. #lrnchat
09:00:55 pm KathyKitch: @Pball001 overwrite? partition? yes, esp when supporting 3 versions of software
#lrnchat
09:01:00 pm ActivateLearn: Q2). To me that’s still learning. You’re just learning a new way and overriding the old @trainersleaders #lrnchat
09:01:03 pm trainersleaders: @kat_frame: Cathy Davidson’s “Now You See It” was my (recent) introduction to the idea of unlearning so we can learn #lrnchat
09:01:10 pm chet_stevenson: @ChandrikaKhera If we’re talking about alternative but equally effective methods for something, are we really “unlearning?” #lrnchat
09:01:10 pm tomspiglanin: Q2) I have to unlearn the old Windows interface every time a new version comes out. #lrnchat
09:01:20 pm Dave_Ferguson: Other dictionary def of ‘unlearn’ — to undo the effect of, discard the habit of. Makes more sense, to me. #lrnchat
09:01:21 pm ExpertusONE: RT @cnagel: RT @theasideblog: History and repetition of poor policy need to be unlearned for new ideas to take hold. #lrnchat
09:01:24 pm jmarrapodi: RT @Pball001: Do we un-learn or overwrite the mental software? #Lrnchat
09:01:32 pm billcush: Hey all….what did I miss? #lrnchat
09:01:33 pm JaneBozarth: Q3 had to unlearn old way of playing instrument for new. Remember how much time/patience I had to have in the gap #lrnchat
09:01:37 pm JaneBozarth: RT @tomspiglanin: Q2) I have to unlearn the old Windows interface every time a new version comes out. #lrnchat
09:01:43 pm ExpertusONE: RT @tomspiglanin: At times, one or the other. RT @dawnjmahoney: A1) Do we really unlearn? Or do we add another layer/s of learning? #LrnChat
09:01:46 pm ChandrikaKhera: @chet_stevenson You are right. However, unlearning doesn’t mean forgetting. We can forget. We find new ways of doing things. #lrnchat
09:01:49 pm JD_Dillon: A2) I quickly unlearned my reliance on level 1 feedback as a reflection of training effectiveness. #lrnchat
09:01:49 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q2) When have you had to unlearn something in order to learn something new? #lrnchat
09:02:19 pm JaneBozarth: I want to spend more time discussing semantics rather than answering the question. Oh wait, no. No, I don’t. #lrnchat
09:02:21 pm billcush: Q2) there’s that Dee Hock quote about unlearning….. #lrnchat
09:02:27 pm dawnjmahoney: A2) Replace. Like it better. #LrnChat
09:02:37 pm Pball001: RT @LnDDave: Q2) people werent learning from listening to me talk. The person talking is doing the learning. #lrnchat
09:03:05 pm JaneBozarth: @britz ran out of characters. My appearance in SYRACUSE is most important, of course. #lrnchat
09:03:06 pm Dave_Ferguson: @JaneBozarth You say semantics, I say distinction. We’re both right. #lrnchat
09:03:14 pm jmarrapodi: What browser are y’all using on your iPads for lrnchat. Running 0 for 2 and about to boot up my laptop! #Lrnchat
09:03:26 pm hjarche: Unlearning: “the ability to hold 2 opposing ideas in mind at the same time & still retain the ability to function” ~ FS Fitzgerald #lrnchat
09:03:38 pm lrnchat: Q3) What is the process of unlearning like? What has to happen to help you unlearn? #lrnchat
09:03:48 pm JaneBozarth: @tomspiglanin peachy thanks. You? #lrnchat
09:03:51 pm dawnjmahoney: Me 3!RT @Dave_Ferguson: @JaneBozarth You say semantics, I say distinction. Were both right. #LrnChat
09:04:06 pm tomspiglanin: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What is the process of unlearning like? What has to happen to help you unlearn? #lrnchat
09:04:08 pm JD_Dillon: @jmarrapodi on a laptop now but i often participate via Chrome on iPad #lrnchat
09:04:09 pm Pball001: “It is what we think we know already that prevents us from learning.” #quote – Claude Bernard #lrnchat
09:04:10 pm AdaliaDavis: RT @Ryan Folmer @theASIDEblog Teaching kids to unlearn memorizing is key to learning how to problem-solve. #lrnchat #icafelc
09:04:24 pm JaneBozarth: @Dave_Ferguson 50 shades of #lrnchat
09:04:28 pm dawnjmahoney: @jmarrapodi had to switch too/TweetChat wasnt running on iP*d at all #LrnChat
09:04:29 pm chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What is the process of unlearning like? What has to happen to help you unlearn? #lrnchat
09:04:29 pm JD_Dillon: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What is the process of unlearning like? What has to happen to help you unlearn? #lrnchat
09:04:38 pm ActivateLearn: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What is the process of unlearning like? What has to happen to help you unlearn? #lrnchat
09:04:52 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What is the process of unlearning like? What has to happen to help you unlearn? #LrnChat
09:04:55 pm cnagel: Q2) I learned how to be a better Manager over the years. Leadership lessons are constant #lrnchat
09:05:00 pm tomspiglanin: @JaneBozarth better now that the work day has closed, thanks! #lrnchat
09:05:01 pm theASIDEblog: Learning something new or updated is not unlearning; it’s learning, improving and evolving. #lrnchat
09:05:03 pm learner4eva: @jmarrapodi safari #Lrnchat
09:05:23 pm learner4eva: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What is the process of unlearning like? What has to happen to help you unlearn? Brain hurts #Lrnchat
09:05:30 pm cnagel: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What is the process of unlearning like? What has to happen to help you unlearn? #lrnchat
09:05:37 pm chet_stevenson: Q3) If I’m unlearning a physical movement, I usually need repetition. #lrnchat
09:05:45 pm tomspiglanin: Q3) for me, unlearning starts with a recognition things aren’t working when they use to work just fine #lrnchat
09:05:53 pm ExpertusONE: RT @Pball001: Do we un-learn or overwrite the mental software? #lrnchat
09:05:54 pm dawnjmahoney: What i use too RT @JD_Dillon: @jmarrapodi on a laptop now but i often participate via Chrome on iPad #LrnChat
09:06:11 pm theASIDEblog: The process of unlearning can be difficult when you’ve trained in one way. #lrnchat
09:06:24 pm LnDDave: Have you ever erased a dry erase board, but enough of the writing is still visible that it’s distracts from the new writing? #lrnchat
09:06:29 pm JaneBozarth: Look I started a Pinterest board for y’all http://t.co/RDugvmpk #lrnchat
09:06:33 pm ThomasStone: Q3) Process of unlearning very much depends on the context — can be frustrating, invigorating, inefficient, productive, etc. #lrnchat
09:06:33 pm Pball001: @chet_stevenson: @lrnchat: Q3) What has to happen to help you unlearn? Action, logic will not chance an emotion – action will. #lrnchat
09:06:35 pm jmarrapodi: @JD_Dillon Chrome won’t retweet on Tweetchat button. Abandoned that first. Is there a trick? #lrnchat
09:06:41 pm JD_Dillon: Does unlearning require you to become incapable of past behavior/knowledge? #lrnchat
09:06:49 pm ChandrikaKhera: Q2) I did quite a lot of unlearning after moving to US. The way we communicate, drive, manage time. #lrnchat
09:06:55 pm theASIDEblog: To unlearn is to take a risk and not worry about failing. #lrnchat
09:07:00 pm JD_Dillon: RT @LnDDave: Have you erased a dry erase board, but enough of the writing is still visible that its distracts from the new writing? #lrnchat
09:07:10 pm KathyKitch: @LnDDave oooh, that’s a great example #lrnchat
09:07:13 pm JaneBozarth: Q3 same reason for learning in the first place: see relevance to my life, benefit of making the adaptation, worth of the effort #lrnchat
09:07:19 pm JaneBozarth: RT @ChandrikaKhera: Q2) I did quite a lot of unlearning after moving to US. The way we communicate, drive, manage time. #lrnchat
09:07:33 pm Pball001: @Pball001 I meant to say change, sorry. #lrnchat
09:07:42 pm Dave_Ferguson: @chet_stevenson That’s true for learning physical skills initially, too. So replacing old w/ new often harder.
#lrnchat
09:07:46 pm ThomasStone: Q3) Sometimes a light slap upside the head is an effective part of the process of unlearning #NotPromotingViolence #lrnchat
09:07:52 pm JaneBozarth: @dave_ferguson is wicked smaht. #lrnchat
09:07:52 pm ActivateLearn: Q3). For me it’s ‘A Ha’ moments, soon followed by “Oh Crap” moments when it sinks in what it all means and why I had difficulties. #lrnchat
09:07:57 pm dawnjmahoney: Hilarious! RT @JaneBozarth: Look I started a Pinterest board for yall http://t.co/p0wB1cZI #LrnChat
09:07:58 pm StephenCHudson: 3. To unlearn, one has to recognize the value of the new info, process, skill – and the shortcomings of the old. Perspective. #lrnchat
09:08:11 pm ActivateLearn: RT @ThomasStone: Q3) Sometimes a light slap upside the head is an effective part of the process of unlearning #NotPromotingViolence #lrnchat
09:08:32 pm chet_stevenson: Q3) If I’m unlearning something cognitive, I usually need an internal or external reminder – repetitively. #lrnchat
09:08:35 pm Dave_Ferguson: @LnDDave Gotta spray-clean that board, fella. That’s the extra effort for replacement learning.
#lrnchat
09:08:35 pm ChandrikaKhera: Q3) The first step of unlearning is understanding the new circumstances and need. #lrnchat
09:08:36 pm JaneBozarth: RT @ThomasStone: Q3) Sometimes a light slap upside the head is an effective part of the process of unlearning #NotPromotingViolence #lrnchat
09:08:52 pm tomspiglanin: Q3) process of unlearning also can start simply with the boss asking, “Why do you do things that way?” and you can’t respond. #lrnchat
09:09:00 pm ActivateLearn: RT @dawnjmahoney: Hilarious! RT @JaneBozarth: Look I started a Pinterest board for yall http://t.co/p0wB1cZI #LrnChat
09:09:12 pm dawnjmahoney: @jmarrapodi No trick. Being temperamental is all I can figure out. Once I got locked out of Twitter cuz of it. The horror! #LrnChat
09:09:21 pm theASIDEblog: As teachers, we need to unlearn 20th century technologies and take a chance on new ways to learn with kids of 21c. #lrnchat
09:09:40 pm LnDDave: Q3) an acknowledgement that what you once believed us no longer applicable. #lrnchat
09:09:42 pm trainersleaders: q3) For me, unlearning=intentionally teaching myself to stop doing something one way so I can do it correctly/effectively #lrnchat
09:10:00 pm jmarrapodi: RT @chet_stevenson: Q3) If Im unlearning a physical movement, I usually need repetition. #lrnchat
09:10:09 pm chet_stevenson: @Dave_Ferguson Agreed. Replacing an old skill requires more repetition. #lrnchat
09:10:11 pm ChandrikaKhera: Q3) Then, replace the existing information with the new information. Unlearning won’t happen till you implement the new information #lrnchat
09:10:15 pm eLearninCyclops: Q3) recognizing we must “unlearn” #Lrnchat
09:10:23 pm Dave_Ferguson: How do we ordinarily forget? Cognitive stuff, often thru non-use (trigonometry, French subjunctive)… #lrnchat
09:10:24 pm cnagel: RT @stephenchudson 2 unlearn, u must recognize the value of the new info, process, skill & the shortcomings of the old Perspective #lrnchat
09:10:25 pm ExpertusONE: Agree. No cerebral dump req’d MT @Dave_Ferguson Other def of ‘unlearn’ To undo effect of, discard habit of. Makes more sense to me #lrnchat
09:10:50 pm aaronesilvers: Q3) the first step to unlearn something is to recognize something you’re doing ain’t right. #Lrnchat
09:10:57 pm jmarrapodi: RT @cnagel: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What is the process of unlearning like? What has to happen to help you unlearn? #lrnchat
09:10:57 pm trainersleaders: q3) Unlearning has the implication that we’re reacting to an unfamiliar or changed situation that requires setting aside old habits #lrnchat
09:11:03 pm Pball001: RT @theASIDEblog: We need to unlearn 20th century technologies. Are you suggesting no classroom presentations? #lrnchat
09:11:07 pm learner4eva: Q3) also need to know “why” I must unlearn #Lrnchat
09:11:10 pm Dave_Ferguson: B/c how & where we learn is linked to what we learn, even bits of that can come back at unexpected times (cf. Marcel Proust). #lrnchat
09:11:15 pm tomspiglanin: Q3) unlearning twitter chat process using tweetchat when you only have an iPhone handy and want to join #lrnchat
09:11:36 pm jmarrapodi: RT @stephenchudson 2 unlearn, u must recognize the value of the new info, process, skill & the shortcomings of the old Perspective #lrnchat
09:12:10 pm chet_stevenson: Q3) When people have to unlearn something, I usually see them take longer on a new task than people with no prior experience. #lrnchat
09:12:15 pm Dave_Ferguson: @ExpertusONE No cerebral dump, but often deliberate effort to slow down response chain & act differently. E.g., stop smoking. #lrnchat
09:12:15 pm jmarrapodi: q3) I have to recognize the error to begin unlearning. #lrnchat
09:12:15 pm cnagel: Q3) Unlearning requires a desire to do something better or to be more effective! A desire to improve. #lrnchat
09:12:18 pm Pball001: I despise the word lecture, who wants to be lectured to anyway? #lrnchat
09:12:25 pm ActivateLearn: RT @LnDDave: Q3) an acknowledgement that what you once believed us no longer applicable. #lrnchat
09:12:29 pm jmarrapodi: RT @tomspiglanin: Q3) unlearning twitter chat process using tweetchat when you only have an iPhone handy and want to join #lrnchat
09:12:51 pm Dave_Ferguson: @ExpertusONE More positive e.g.: learn to drive a stick, learn to think in 2nd language.
#lrnchat
09:13:13 pm ChandrikaKhera: Q3) However, implementing new learning and unlearn old is important for kinesthetic and behavioral skills. #lrnchat
09:13:17 pm jmarrapodi: @tomspiglanin Try the Puffin Browser. working much better onmy iPad #lrnchat
09:13:36 pm Dave_Ferguson: @Pball001 All those people downloads podcasts and TED talks. #lrnchat
09:13:40 pm LnDDave: RT @aaronesilvers: Q3) the first step to unlearn something is to recognize something you’re doing ain’t right. #Lrnchat
09:13:53 pm jmarrapodi: @Dave_Ferguson Oh my. you look different in real life nice pix. #lrnchat
09:14:00 pm JD_Dillon: Does unlearning require you to let go of the past knowledge or simply not use it? #lrnchat
09:14:04 pm eLearninCyclops: Q3) sometimes need 2 assure coworkers r willing to unlearn 2 #Lrnchat
09:14:08 pm Pball001: @jmarrapodi: @stephenchudson “the shortcomings of the old Perspective” Whose perspective? People have selective absorption. #lrnchat
09:14:15 pm ExpertusONE: Yep. Context helps u choose change MT @stephenchudson 2 unlearn, u must see value new info, process, skill & shortcomings of old… #lrnchat
09:14:23 pm aaronesilvers: MT @cnagel: Q3) Unlearning requires a desire to improve. #lrnchat < Also a focus on what the change state looks like.
09:14:28 pm theASIDEblog: @Pball001 Nope, but we need to move beyond the worksheet, test prep, one-size assessments to social media, web 2.0, & PBL. #lrnchat
09:14:31 pm LnDDave: Q3) someone needs to help you see that the new way is better than the old way. #lrnchat
09:14:35 pm ChandrikaKhera: @chet_stevenson I agree with you. This happens because the clashes happens with our old information patterns in the brain. #lrnchat
09:14:43 pm lilred_apagog: @JD_Dillon Like that…could unlearning built on you letting go of old knowlege. Adult learners are all about experience #lrnchat
09:14:49 pm Dave_Ferguson: @JD_Dillon What would “let go” look like, other than not using? (just wondering) #lrnchat
09:15:20 pm tomspiglanin: And used to be! MT @aaronesilvers: Q3) the first step to unlearn something is to recognize something you’re doing ain’t right. #Lrnchat
09:15:32 pm Dave_Ferguson: “Unlearning” is hard. Just ask all the folks still in mourning for WordPerfect and reveal codes. #lrnchat
09:15:34 pm jmarrapodi: always? RT @LnDDave: Q3) someone needs to help you see that the new way is better than the old way. #lrnchat
09:15:45 pm JD_Dillon: @Dave_Ferguson not being capable anymore, such as forgetting … #lrnchat
09:15:49 pm lrnchat: Q4) How is unlearning knowledge different than breaking a habit or belief? #lrnchat
09:16:04 pm chet_stevenson: Q3) I would say the process of unlearning something is similar to most change processes. #lrnchat
09:16:06 pm theASIDEblog: @JD_Dillon It’s more about evolving using the knowledge of the past to enhance ideas of the future. #lrnchat
09:16:08 pm JaneBozarth: Q4) How is unlearning knowledge different than breaking a habit or belief? #lrnchat #lrnchat
09:16:21 pm chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How is unlearning knowledge different than breaking a habit or belief? #lrnchat
09:16:23 pm JD_Dillon: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How is unlearning knowledge different than breaking a habit or belief? #lrnchat
09:16:23 pm ActivateLearn: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How is unlearning knowledge different than breaking a habit or belief? #lrnchat
09:16:26 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How is unlearning knowledge different than breaking a habit or belief? #LrnChat
09:16:36 pm JaneBozarth: RT @Dave_Ferguson “Unlearning” is hard. Just ask all the folks still in mourning for WordPerfect and reveal codes. #lrnchat
09:16:40 pm jmarrapodi: RT @JaneBozarth: Q4) How is unlearning knowledge different than breaking a habit or belief? #lrnchat #lrnchat
09:16:40 pm cnagel: RT @aaronesilvers: MT @cnagel: Q3) Unlearning requires a desire to improve. #lrnchat < Also a focus on what the change state looks like….
09:16:50 pm learner4eva: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How is unlearning knowledge different than breaking a habit or belief? #Lrnchat
09:16:53 pm KathyKitch: @Dave_Ferguson OH MY…another WordPerfect ‘former user’ besides me. That was the hardest transition. #lrnchat
09:16:56 pm aaronesilvers: RT @LnDDave: Q3) someone needs to help you see that the new way is better than the old way. #lrnchat
09:17:03 pm eLearninCyclops: Q3) Unlearned Authorware, or at least impulse to use it – forced to unlearn? #Lrnchat
09:17:07 pm cnagel: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How is unlearning knowledge different than breaking a habit or belief? #lrnchat
09:17:19 pm jmarrapodi: most change management initiatives involve unlearning,, #lrnchat
09:17:23 pm Pball001: Q4 – overwriting old habits and beliefs. #lrnchat
09:17:29 pm JaneBozarth: @Dave_Ferguson Unlearning is hard. Just ask all the folks still talking about learning styles, MBTI, and ‘generations’ . #lrnchat
09:17:32 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How is unlearning knowledge different than breaking a habit or belief? #lrnchat
09:17:44 pm LnDDave: @jmarrapodi I think you need to understand why the change is made, even if it’s not benefiting you specifically. #lrnchat
09:17:59 pm aaronesilvers: I guess it begs the question when does something you know cease to be something you believe? #lrnchat
09:18:21 pm dawnjmahoney: had this convo on Tue/funny! @Dave_Ferguson OH MY…another WordPerfect former user besides me. That was the hardest transition. #LrnChat
09:18:21 pm Dave_Ferguson: @KathyKitch Never. I was instrumental in rooting WordPerfect OUT of an org. But I recognized the pain of forced conversion. #lrnchat
09:18:23 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How is unlearning knowledge different than breaking a habit or belief? #lrnchat
09:18:25 pm tetylernj: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @Dave_Ferguson “Unlearning” is hard. Just ask all the folks still in mourning for WordPerfect and reveal codes. #lrnchat
09:18:39 pm aaronesilvers: This Beard is unlearning a lot of things over the last year. #lrnchat
09:18:58 pm theASIDEblog: A4) Unlearning is changing to build on ideas. Breaking a bad habit is not doing it again. #lrnchat
09:19:08 pm ExpertusONE: RT @aaronesilvers: I guess it begs the question when does something you know cease to be something you believe? #lrnchat
09:19:20 pm Pball001: With repetetion – listen, do, think, adjust, repeat. #lrnchat
09:19:23 pm JD_Dillon: Unlearning = evolution. Breaking habit = finite? #lrnchat
09:19:36 pm Dave_Ferguson: @aaronesilvers Depends what you mean by “know.” Factual stuff (Ottawa=capital) or nonprovable stuff.
#lrnchat
09:19:42 pm LnDDave: Q4) part of the issue is that many confuse personal beliefs with factual knowledge. #lrnchat
09:19:44 pm ActivateLearn: RT @theASIDEblog: A4) Unlearning is changing to build on ideas. Breaking a bad habit is not doing it again. #lrnchat
09:19:50 pm chet_stevenson: Q4) I can think of a lot of ways they are similar. Struggling to think of how they are different. #lrnchat
09:19:53 pm marciamarcia: We really can’t unlearn. We can overwrite or put a sign on that door that says, “things no longer so.” #lrnchat #waving
09:20:14 pm ggheorghiu: RT @LnDDave: @jmarrapodi I think you need to understand why the change is made, even if it’s not benefiting you specifically. #lrnchat
09:20:15 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @JD_Dillon: Unlearning = evolution. Breaking habit = finite? #lrnchat
09:20:40 pm JD_Dillon: RT @LnDDave: Q4) part of the issue is that many confuse personal beliefs with factual knowledge. #lrnchat
09:20:40 pm JeanineDelay: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How is unlearning knowledge different than breaking a habit or belief? #lrnchat
09:20:45 pm ggheorghiu: RT @jmarrapodi: most change management initiatives involve unlearning,, #lrnchat
09:20:58 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @LnDDave: Q4) part of the issue is that many confuse personal beliefs with factual knowledge. #lrnchat
09:21:01 pm trainersleaders: RT @theASIDEblog A4) Unlearning is changing to build on ideas. Breaking a bad habit is not doing it again. #lrnchat
09:21:06 pm aaronesilvers: @Dave_Ferguson why would — hell, how would one willingly unlearn a fact? #lrnchat
09:21:08 pm chet_stevenson: @theASIDEblog But couldn’t a habit be based on a belief or an idea? Even physical habits have cognitive roots. #lrnchat
09:21:12 pm Dave_Ferguson: Sure sounds like other people have a far easier time breaking a habit than *I* have had. #lrnchat
09:21:29 pm jmarrapodi: key premise RT @LnDDave: @jmarrapodi you need to understand why the change is made, even if its not benefiting you specifically. #lrnchat
09:21:33 pm dawnjmahoney: Yes RT @marciamarcia We really can’t unlearn. We can overwrite or put a sign on that door that says, “things no longer so.” #LrnChat
09:21:36 pm LnDDave: Q4) another factor is how vested someone is in the knowledge being the way that it was as compared to how it is now. #lrnchat
09:21:43 pm dawnjmahoney: Agree @Dave_Ferguson why would — hell, how would one willingly unlearn a fact? #LrnChat
09:21:46 pm aaronesilvers: RT @marciamarcia: We really can’t unlearn. We can overwrite or put a sign on that door that says, “things no longer so.” #lrnchat #waving
09:21:49 pm Pball001: @ggheorghiu: @LnDDave: @jmarrapodi – you need to understand why, absolutely. #lrnchat
09:22:03 pm ActivateLearn: Q4). Have hard time grappling with term ‘unlearning’. I’ve learned new ways of thinking and behaviour.Don’t like the ‘un’ Just me. #lrnchat
09:22:39 pm aaronesilvers: @marciamarcia I’m reminded that Ctrl-N is easier than Ctrl-Z #lrnchat
09:22:47 pm Dave_Ferguson: @aaronesilvers That’s one of my problems with “unlearning” as a buzzword. Facile AND ambiguous. #lrnchat
09:22:48 pm dawnjmahoney: @ActivateLearn🙂 #LrnChat
09:23:06 pm theASIDEblog: @JD_Dillon @LnDDave Right, and they need to be separated like church and state. Factual information requires context. #lrnchat
09:23:06 pm Pball001: Does the mind every really forget? #lrnchat
09:23:17 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @aaronesilvers: @Dave_Ferguson why would — hell, how would one willingly unlearn a fact? #lrnchat // Politicians r always tryin 2 help
09:23:26 pm ActivateLearn: @dawnjmahoney @marciamarcia Yes this is what I’m trying to say.Agree with your statement. We can’t unlearn.Concept does not compute #lrnchat
09:23:48 pm LnDDave: It’s been a year since I moved to a new house, yet I often subconsciously turn towards my old house out of habit. #lrnchat
09:24:16 pm JD_Dillon: @theASIDEblog even the concept of “factual” is wide open based on fallible human interpretation #lrnchat
09:24:20 pm dawnjmahoney: @ActivateLearn🙂 x2 #LrnChat
09:24:24 pm theASIDEblog: @chet_stevenson Perhaps that’s way bad habits need to be unlearned. #lrnchat
09:24:37 pm jmarrapodi: @ActivateLearn think about reaching for something that used to be there in your old car that isnt in your new one need to unlearn #lrnchat
09:24:41 pm ActivateLearn: Q4) @Dave_Ferguson @aaronesilvers Hooray. Someone has said it, “buzzword”! #lrnchat
09:24:46 pm chet_stevenson: @Pball001 I think the mind can forget. Not basing this research, only my own experiences. lol #lrnchat
09:24:53 pm JeanineDelay: Q4) Unlearning is like breaking a habit. We need to see what the queue is, snd change the old behavior with a new behavior. #lrnchat
09:25:15 pm trainersleaders: More of us repeating a question (#4; unlearning vs. breaking habits) than answering it on lrnchat? May be the end of the world #lrnchat
09:25:18 pm ChandrikaKhera: Q4) I personally don’t believe in ‘unlearning’. You don’t forget what you learn. You just learn new ways of doing things. #lrnchat
09:25:24 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @LnDDave: been a yr since I moved to a new house, yet I often subconsciously turn towards // drove 2 my old job several times #lrnchat
09:25:36 pm theASIDEblog: Who does unlearning really apply to, teachers or students? Plenty would say the former. #lrnchat
09:25:50 pm Dave_Ferguson: @chet_stevenson I think so, too, but hard to prove, since forget = nonretrieval. Is it GONE, or just not where we looked? #lrnchat
09:26:12 pm ChandrikaKhera: Q4) Unlearn is most of the time ‘new learn’. #lrnchat
09:26:18 pm ActivateLearn: Q4) @jmarrapodi Still struggling.Haven’t unlearned it-simply overrided an old habit with a new one. It’s not gone out of my memory #lrnchat
09:26:26 pm ExpertusONE: @aaronesilvers Yep! Like “unlearning” world is flat/”learning” its round. Req proof+belief. Motivation to accept/integrate new info #lrnchat
09:26:34 pm Pball001: RT @chet_stevenson: I think the mind can forget. My own experiences. lol, true! #lrnchat
09:26:47 pm theASIDEblog: @JD_Dillon As we see daily, take Jonah Lehrer from the New Yorker. #lrnchat
09:27:10 pm jmarrapodi: Q4) Dieting is not permantly successful unless you unlearn the eating habits that got you in trouble. #lrnchat
09:27:36 pm chet_stevenson: @Dave_Ferguson When I came home from Iraq, I had to completely re-learn parts of my civilian job (after nearly two years away) #lrnchat
09:27:51 pm lilred_apagog: Now I’m feeling like unlearn = change #lrnchat
09:28:05 pm Dave_Ferguson: @ActivateLearn I think “forget” and “deliberately replace” are two legs of “unlearning.” One via nonuse, one via effort. #lrnchat
09:28:23 pm theASIDEblog: @ExpertusONE @aaronesilvers And now it’s flat again in a non-literal sense. #lrnchat
09:28:29 pm LnDDave: Forgetting is natural; Unlearning is a strategic need when going to the old way has serious consequences. #lrnchat
09:28:31 pm Pball001: “Education is learning what you didn’t even know you didn’t know.” #quote -Daniel Boorstin #lrnchat
09:28:42 pm jmarrapodi: @ActivateLearn preposition un=not so not learning maybe it needs to be relearning #lrnchat
09:28:47 pm Dave_Ferguson: @chet_stevenson I think “relearn” is a better word for some of what we’ve talked about. New/changed stuff; prob new/changed goal. #lrnchat
09:29:07 pm cnagel: RT @lnddave: Forgetting is natural; Unlearning is a strategic need when going to the old way has serious consequences. #lrnchat
09:29:11 pm JD_Dillon: RT @LnDDave: Forgetting is natural; Unlearning is a strategic need when going to the old way has serious consequences. #lrnchat
09:29:12 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @LnDDave: Forgetting is natural; Unlearning is a strategic need when going to the old way has serious consequences. #lrnchat
09:29:13 pm JosieHolford: If we have a solid pedagogic foundation we can build on it. Rather than unlearn, we can build on that learning as we learn anew.#lrnchat
09:29:19 pm theASIDEblog: @lilred_apagog Exactly! Unlearning is to change, evolve, etc. #lrnchat
09:29:21 pm aaronesilvers: @jmarrapodi and/or peel back the beliefs and attitudes that reinforce the present habits. #lrnchat
09:29:29 pm lrnchat: Q5) “An Old building must be torn down in order to build a new one” – What other metaphors can be used to describe Unlearning? #lrnchat
09:29:39 pm joannehopper: RT @TeachThought: 12 Silent Saboteurs Of Innovation In Education http://t.co/xge9UOqm #lrnchat #edchat #edreform #education #edtech
09:29:48 pm ActivateLearn: Q4). @jmarrapodi I’m more comfortable with this definition!🙂 #lrnchat
09:29:52 pm ExpertusONE: @Dave_Ferguson Exactly. Seems additive. We learn to embrace new w/awareness of choices + motivation to change, set aside old. Yes? #lrnchat
09:29:58 pm jmarrapodi: but then how do we differentiate between learning, relearning and unlearning? #lrnchat
09:30:01 pm LnDDave: RT @jmarrapodi: Q4) Dieting is not permantly successful unless you unlearn the eating habits that got you in trouble. #lrnchat
09:30:07 pm ChandrikaKhera: @theASIDEblog In case of children, unlearning happen practically. It’s easier for them to ‘overwrite’ the old with the new one. #lrnchat
09:30:07 pm Pball001: Agreed “relearn” is a better term. #lrnchat
09:30:16 pm chet_stevenson: RT @lnddave: Forgetting is natural; Unlearning is a strategic need when going to the old way has serious consequences. <Agree #lrnchat
09:30:18 pm Dave_Ferguson: I figure 47 consulting firms are already working “unlearning” into their service marks, right where ” 2.0 ” used to be. #lrnchat
09:30:23 pm audioswhite: Q4) all take work & can be hard. Unlearning belief = willing to look inward, assess and change #lrnchat
09:30:33 pm ChandrikaKhera: @theASIDEblog I have seen this happening while working with toddlers in school. #lrnchat
09:30:43 pm JD_Dillon: A5) I think we’ve already covered the dry erase/chalk board approach. #lrnchat
09:31:01 pm theASIDEblog: @Dave_Ferguson @chet_stevenson See your point, but many teachers refuse to relearn, therefore they can’t unlearn. #lrnchat
09:31:37 pm Pball001: Q5 – Format the hard drive. #lrnchat
09:31:54 pm JaneBozarth: @theASIDEblog you got that right. #lrnchat
09:32:10 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @Pball001: Q5 – Format the hard drive. #lrnchat
09:32:11 pm ExpertusONE: True that🙂 Welcome to the next level! MT @theASIDEblog > @ExpertusONE @aaronesilvers & now it’s flat again in a non-literal sense #lrnchat
09:32:13 pm ActivateLearn: RT @Pball001: Does the mind every really forget? #lrnchat
09:32:15 pm aaronesilvers: Star destroyers always dump their garbage before going into hyperspace. #lrnchat
09:32:39 pm chet_stevenson: @theASIDEblog I agree. I’m not sure that you can “unlearn” without a change management process of some sort. #lrnchat
09:32:57 pm LnDDave: Q5) as a vegetarian, I tend to like my pans to unlearn the meat flavor before I start to sauté my vegetables. #lrnchat
09:33:04 pm jmarrapodi: RT @lnddave: Forgetting is natural; Unlearning is a strategic need when going to old way has serious consequences #lrnchat
09:33:05 pm JD_Dillon: Does ‘re-learn’ imply that you already learned it in the past? #lrnchat
09:33:11 pm chet_stevenson: Q5) “An Old building must be torn down in order to build a new one” – What other metaphors can be used to describe Unlearning? #lrnchat
09:33:11 pm ChandrikaKhera: Unlearning is deciding not to use the whole or part of old skills to do something new. You consciously need to do know this. (1/2) #lrnchat
09:33:19 pm ActivateLearn: @theASIDEblog @Dave_Ferguson @chet_stevenson I think my brain has just got into a spin #lrnchat
09:33:19 pm britz: @ActivateLearn @jmarrapodi is learning the same as a memory? I believe we don’t forget any thing… We just struggle to recall #lrnchat
09:33:25 pm Dave_Ferguson: @aaronesilvers Or they would, if they’d (a) ever get invented and (b) ever develop hyperdrive. Don’t wait up. #lrnchat
09:33:27 pm theASIDEblog: Change the symbols of learning from apples, pencils & school buses to iPads, modern phones and interactive maps. #lrnchat
09:33:30 pm LnDDave: RT @theASIDEblog: @Dave_Ferguson @chet_stevenson See your point, but many teachers refuse to relearn, therefore they can’t unlearn. #lrnchat
09:33:37 pm LnDDave: RT @Pball001: Q5 – Format the hard drive. #lrnchat
09:33:50 pm Pball001: Throw your baggage overboard. #lrnchat
09:33:50 pm tomspiglanin: @lrnchat sometimes you can’t see the forest through the trees #LrnChat
09:34:04 pm JD_Dillon: Jenga #lrnchat
09:34:15 pm trainersleaders: q5) Unlearning is like an exorcism–an intentional act removing something undesireable so something more positive can replace it #lrnchat
09:34:26 pm jmarrapodi: hmmmm RT @britz: @ActivateLearn is learning the same as a memory? I believe we dont forget any thing… We just struggle to recall #lrnchat
09:34:28 pm chet_stevenson: RT @LnDDave: RT @Pball001: Q5 – Format the hard drive. < Wouldn’t that be “Re-format the hard drive.” ? LOL #lrnchat
09:34:28 pm JD_Dillon: Blast from the past … etch a sketch #lrnchat
09:34:30 pm kerina: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @Dave_Ferguson “Unlearning” is hard. Just ask all the folks still in mourning for WordPerfect and reveal codes. #lrnchat
09:34:51 pm Dave_Ferguson: @britz I tend to agree, tho’ if you can’t activate the memory, it’s effectively lost. Low end: algebra II. High end: dementia. #lrnchat
09:34:52 pm ChandrikaKhera: Ex: Using computers to compose and print letters need a set of new skills. Can’t use the same skills required for typewriter. (2/2) #lrnchat
09:34:54 pm huiwana: #lrnchat Q5) Making pop ice. If you wanna add fruit to it you must defroze the ice first , add fruit, then refreeze.
09:35:26 pm jmarrapodi: is unlearning the intentional process of changing ideas, then? #lrnchat
09:35:28 pm JD_Dillon: “Replace All” #lrnchat
09:35:48 pm trainersleaders: Make that 48! RT @Dave_Ferguson I figure 47 consulting firms are working “unlearning” into service marks where ” 2.0 ” used to be #lrnchat
09:35:49 pm Dave_Ferguson: @huiwana So has the fruit relearned? #lrnchat
09:35:52 pm Pball001: @chet_stevenson Yes, I guess it would. #lrnchat
09:36:04 pm huiwana: @Dave_Ferguson Eaten into the tummy #lrnchat
09:36:22 pm learner4eva: RT @LnDDave: Forgetting is natural; Unlearning is strategic need when going 2 the old way has serious consequences. #lrnchat /accountability
09:36:23 pm ActivateLearn: Q5). Computer says no.http://t.co/y5JEhNMo #lrnchat
09:36:31 pm britz: Last nite did I unlearn my drive off the tee? W/observation & coaching I eliminated my slice & consistently hit fairway. Unlearned? #lrnchat
09:36:47 pm tomspiglanin: Q5) unlearning is an eraser. You can rub to get a clean slate but always see the original trace. #lrnchat
09:36:53 pm theASIDEblog: @JD_Dillon Design thinking for the century of the child. See the MoMA exhibition if you’re in NYC. #lrnchat
09:37:00 pm trainersleaders: A metaphor for unlearning: RT @Pball001 Format the hard drive #lrnchat
09:37:00 pm Pball001: Clear the mechanism! #lrnchat
09:37:08 pm huiwana: @britz When you achieve the consistency then you’re considered unlearned and relearned!🙂 #lrnchat
09:37:31 pm Dave_Ferguson: @britz I always like Jim Fuller’s point that practice doesn’t make perfect; it makes permanent. (emphasizing need for good FB) #lrnchat
09:37:41 pm chet_stevenson: Q5) Unlearning is like a Recalculating GPS. Your’e changing one thing for another – hopefully the new thing is better. #lrnchat
09:38:11 pm huiwana: Was sitting here since an hour ago ready for #lrnchat but I was on Facebook, emails, RSS etc. When will I unlearn that!
09:38:11 pm jmarrapodi: RT @tomspiglanin: Q5) unlearning is an eraser. You can rub to get a clean slate but always see the original trace. #lrnchat
09:39:10 pm kerina: “@lrnchat: Q4) How is unlearning knowledge different than breaking a habit or belief? #lrnchat” • Hm, kinda like when Pluto got demoted…
09:39:12 pm Pball001: @huiwana When you switch to Google + #lrnchat
09:39:20 pm JeanineDelay: Q5) Unlearning requires that you see yourself doing things you usually can’t see. #lrnchat
09:39:39 pm ChandrikaKhera: The perfect example of unlearning is using #lrnchat to chat with people. What we know as chat on Internet is completely different. #lrnchat
09:39:41 pm ActivateLearn: Q5) @britz If you hit your golf ball consistently on fairway, you wouldn’t care what you’d call it! #lrnchat
09:39:41 pm theASIDEblog: @chet_stevenson If not, take a different route. The journey is more important than the destination. #lrnchat
09:39:43 pm huiwana: @Pball001 #lrnchat for real? but I don’t like that thing… is that your whole point?
09:39:46 pm jbuonora: Hopefully you learn more than you unlearn #lrnchat
09:40:20 pm ExpertusONE: Nice > MT @chet_stevenson Q5 Unlearning is like Recalculating GPS. You change one thing w/another, new thing intended to be better #lrnchat
09:40:35 pm ChandrikaKhera: Using #lrnchat makes us learn new ways to connect with people.🙂 Use new tools also to track this hashtag.
09:40:52 pm jmarrapodi: Can you unlearn without learning something new? Back to the diet, which attempts to unlearn habits, most often unsuccessfully. #lrnchat
09:40:58 pm Pball001: @huiwana Yes, do what you don’t like to do – thats change. #lrnchat
09:41:02 pm JD_Dillon: @jbuonora as long as the quality of learned info improves #lrnchat
09:41:56 pm huiwana: @Pball001 #lrnchat hmm.. that’s worse than wasting time, no? on something that’s unenjoyable.
09:41:58 pm chet_stevenson: @jmarrapodi I would say the unlearning was unsuccessful in that case. #lrnchat
09:42:00 pm trainersleaders: RT @JeanineDelay Q5) Unlearning requires that you see yourself doing things you usually can’t see. #lrnchat
09:42:20 pm theASIDEblog: Checking out early, thanks for a great chat tonight. #lrnchat
09:42:26 pm lrnchat: Q6) What do your workers or organization need to unlearn? #lrnchat
09:42:27 pm Pball001: Unlearn the habit of FaceBook and try something new. Its uncomfortable. #lrnchat
09:42:31 pm Dave_Ferguson: @jmarrapodi W diet & exercise, there are techniques to replace habits. Like a performance improvement project.
#lrnchat
09:42:35 pm huiwana: RT @lrnchat: Q6) What do your workers or organization need to unlearn? #lrnchat
09:42:41 pm cnagel: “Perfecting oneself is as much unlearning as it is learning.” — Dijkstra #lrnchat
09:42:52 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @lrnchat: Q6) What do your workers or organization need to unlearn? #lrnchat
09:43:06 pm chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Q6) What do your workers or organization need to unlearn? #lrnchat
09:43:07 pm Dave_Ferguson: @jmarrapodi Some folks will call that “unlearning,” and lang may their lum reek. #lrnchat
09:43:08 pm jmarrapodi: unlearning is like “recalculating” on the gps
#lrnchat
09:43:14 pm JD_Dillon: RT @lrnchat: Q6) What do your workers or organization need to unlearn? #lrnchat
09:43:23 pm jmarrapodi: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @jmarrapodi W diet & exercise, there are techniques to replace habits. Like a performance improvement project. #lrnchat
09:43:24 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q6) What do your workers or organization need to unlearn? #lrnchat
09:43:37 pm Pball001: Q6 – that e-mail is the only answer. #lrnchat
09:44:06 pm huiwana: #lrnchat Q6) Haven’t been in the new company long enough to tell. But if it’s the old one, then it is to CUT the sitting-on-it mentality.
09:44:17 pm jmarrapodi: @Dave_Ferguson maybe thats what i need to be doing. leverage those perfomance skills here never tought of that. #lrnchat
09:44:17 pm audioswhite: @britz maybe, if you slip back into old technique after your coaching session then maybe you did not unlearn. #lrnchat
09:44:17 pm tomspiglanin: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q6) What do your workers or organization need to unlearn? #lrnchat
09:44:28 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q6) What do your workers or organization need to unlearn? #lrnchat #lrnchat
09:44:29 pm jmarrapodi: RT @lrnchat: Q6) What do your workers or organization need to unlearn? #lrnchat
09:44:30 pm eLearninCyclops: Q6) Unlearn that “effective” learning must occur in the “classroom.” #lrnchat
09:44:37 pm Pball001: Or should I say that Outlook e-mail is the only answer. #lrnchat
09:44:54 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q6) What do your workers or organization need to unlearn? #lrnchat
09:45:04 pm cnagel: One more quote “To attain knowledge, add things everyday. To obtain wisdom, subtract things everyday.” ~ Lao Tsu #lrnchat
09:45:08 pm ggheorghiu: RT @eLearninCyclops: Q6) Unlearn that “effective” learning must occur in the “classroom.” #lrnchat <well said🙂
09:45:10 pm tomspiglanin: Q6) I need the org to unlearn sage on stage as primary means to “train” #LrnChat
09:45:13 pm JD_Dillon: A6) Learning is not part of the job, its something I am forced to do on the side. #lrnchat
09:45:41 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @JD_Dillon: A6) Learning is not part of the job, its something I am forced to do on the side. #lrnchat
09:45:42 pm Quinnovator: Oops, it was 92 in the shade, so fam jumped in the pool, then margs on the deck. Missed #lrnchat! Best to all!
09:45:55 pm tomspiglanin: Q6) please unlearn the notion that L&D is the primary source of learning. #LrnChat
09:46:00 pm Dave_Ferguson: @jmarrapodi At risk of self-promo, I wrote about Weight Watchers as perf mgmt system: http://t.co/mr2mJPLM #lrnchat
09:46:02 pm jmarrapodi: q6) My students need to unlearn submitting uncorrected first draft stream of consciousness as their compleded work #lrnchat
09:46:16 pm Pball001: @JD_Dillon Wow you hit the nail on the head with that one. #lrnchat
09:46:17 pm ggheorghiu: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q6) What do your workers or organization need to unlearn? #lrnchat
09:46:26 pm JaneBozarth: RT @tomspiglanin: Q6) please unlearn the notion that L&D is the primary source of learning. #lrnchat
09:46:30 pm jmarrapodi: @Quinnovator cool day in California #lrnchat
09:46:50 pm JD_Dillon: I wish managers would unlearn the word “training” and replace it with “appropriate solution” #lrnchat
09:46:55 pm ExpertusONE: +residual c/b helpful reminder? MT @tomspiglanin Q5 Unlearning = eraser. You can rub to a clean slate but always see original trace #lrnchat
09:46:56 pm trainersleaders: RT @cnagel “To attain knowledge, add things everyday. To obtain wisdom, subtract things everyday.” ~ Lao Tsu #lrnchat
09:46:58 pm jmarrapodi: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @jmarrapodi At risk of self-promo, I wrote about Weight Watchers as perf mgmt system: http://t.co/3sifGb4D<cool #lrnchat
09:47:19 pm ChandrikaKhera: RT @tomspiglanin: Q6) please unlearn the notion that L&D is the primary source of learning. #LrnChat
09:47:26 pm huiwana: #lrnchat 60degrees at 1:47pm New Zealand now.. We’re in winter.
09:47:45 pm ggheorghiu: RT @Pball001: Unlearn the habit of FaceBook and try something new. Its uncomfortable. #lrnchat <what would the new thing be?
09:47:46 pm chadlockart: RT @aaronesilvers: Star destroyers always dump their garbage before going into hyperspace. #lrnchat
09:48:09 pm trainersleaders: What employees need to unlearn: RT @JD_Dillon A6) Learning is not part of the job, it’s something I am forced to do on the side. #lrnchat
09:48:27 pm Pball001: Q6 -“Learning is experience. Everything else is just information.” #quote – Albert Einstein #lrnchat
09:48:28 pm Dave_Ferguson: @huiwana You poor dear.
#lrnchat
09:48:40 pm JaneBozarth: @ggheorghiu @pball001 no reason to. #lrnchat
09:48:56 pm JD_Dillon: Orgs need to unlearn the notion that you can control people. Guide, coach, mentor … Don’t regulate. #lrnchat
09:49:02 pm Pball001: @ggheorghiu Google + #lrnchat
09:49:08 pm britz: RT @jmarrapodi: RT @tomspiglanin: Q5) unlearning is an eraser. You can rub to get a clean slate but always see the original trace. #lrnchat
09:49:08 pm huiwana: @Dave_Ferguson Haha it’s actually very nice! 15.8 Celcius in winter… what’s not to like🙂 #lrnchat
09:49:34 pm britz: “@ActivateLearn: Q5) @britz If you hit your golf ball consistently on fairway, you wouldn’t care what you’d call it! #lrnchat” /Amen!
09:49:37 pm cnagel: RT @jd_dillon: Orgs need to unlearn the notion that you can control people. Guide, coach, mentor … Don’t regulate. #lrnchat
09:50:13 pm JD_Dillon: I wish people would unlearn email attachments as a primary sharing technique. #lrnchat
09:50:24 pm JaneBozarth: RT @JD_Dillon: Orgs need to unlearn the notion that you can control people. Guide, coach, mentor … Don’t regulate. #lrnchat
09:50:36 pm huiwana: @Dave_Ferguson Makes one appreciate good weather more! #lrnchat
09:50:39 pm jmarrapodi: @Dave_Ferguson can you resend that ww link? broken…. #lrnchat
09:51:10 pm LauraMattis: Agree, from former “L&D”😉 RT @JaneBozarth RT @tomspiglanin: Q6) please unlearn notion that L&D is the primary source of learning. #lrnchat
09:51:11 pm jmarrapodi: RT @Pball001: Q6 -“Learning is experience. Everything else is just information.” #quote – Albert Einstein #lrnchat
09:51:26 pm chet_stevenson: Q6) I’d like to see some designers unlearn the concept that only one ID can work on a project at a time. #lrnchat
09:51:32 pm eLearninCyclops: Q6) Unlearn – Credit must b given for every “learning event.” Credit or not, u learned and it will show #lrnchat
09:51:41 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @jmarrapodi: RT @Pball001: Q6 -“Learning is experience. Everything else is just information.” #quote – Albert Einstein #lrnchat
09:51:57 pm LnDDave: Q6) we may need to unlearn our focus on labels so we can concentrate more on the underlying themes. #lrnchat
09:52:03 pm ggheorghiu: @cnagel i think unlearning also means using less or no quotes🙂 because quotes are fast food for thought #lrnchat
09:52:06 pm britz: MT @lrnchat: Q6) What do ur workers or org need to unlearn? #lrnchat /a swift kick in the pants! (sometimes)
09:52:07 pm huiwana: @chet_stevenson Send those said IDs to Singapore for a year. Very good training ground. #lrnchat
09:52:51 pm Dave_Ferguson: @huiwana Especially if they need to relearn gum-chewing. #lrnchat
09:52:54 pm jmarrapodi: @Dave_Ferguson better thanks #lrnchat
09:53:10 pm ggheorghiu: @JD_Dillon: A6) Learning is not part of the job, its something I am forced to do on the side #lrnchat <it’s usually the case & it shouldn’t
09:53:28 pm LnDDave: Q6) lots of people need to unlearn their perceives acceptance of REPLY TO ALL #lrnchat
09:53:30 pm britz: @audioswhite the possibility is always present so again … Can we really unlearn? #lrnchat
09:53:32 pm chet_stevenson: @huiwana Some people like working solo and don’t believe that together we can be more than the sum of our parts. #lrnchat
09:53:37 pm huiwana: @Dave_Ferguson no seriously… they squeeze you dry there. My peak was 8 projs at the same time I thought I was going crazy. #lrnchat
09:53:49 pm Pball001: Thank you Learning professionals this is an excellent forum, gotta run for now. #lrnchat
09:54:33 pm ggheorghiu: RT @LnDDave: Q6) we may need to unlearn our focus on labels so we can concentrate more on the underlying themes. #lrnchat
09:54:33 pm chet_stevenson: @Pball001 Good chat. #lrnchat
09:54:41 pm britz: “@JD_Dillon: I wish managers would unlearn the word “training” and replace it with “appropriate solution” #lrnchat” /ditto!
09:54:56 pm jmass: Even unlearning is learning. #lrnchat
09:55:04 pm eLearninCyclops: Q6) Unlearn that $ alone won’t keep people motivated. #lrnchat
09:55:21 pm lilred_apagog: YES RT @britz: “@JD_Dillon: I wish managers would unlearn the word “training” and replace it with “appropriate solution” #lrnchat”
09:55:34 pm jmarrapodi: this has been a good discussion much to think about #lrnchat
09:55:36 pm lrnchat: QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourself. (Shameless plugs welcome.) #lrnchat
09:55:52 pm jmarrapodi: RT @jmass: Even unlearning is learning. #lrnchat
09:56:00 pm chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: QWrap) Its that time again. Please re-introduce yourself. (Shameless plugs welcome.) #lrnchat
09:56:06 pm jmarrapodi: RT @lrnchat: QWrap) Its that time again. Please re-introduce yourself. (Shameless plugs welcome.) #lrnchat
09:56:28 pm Dave_Ferguson: Dave Ferguson, DC-area, sporadic blogger, anti-unlearner. #lrnchat
09:56:33 pm chet_stevenson: QWrap) Chester Stevenson, Instructional Designer/Site Lead @ Lockheed Martin #lrnchat
09:56:34 pm ExpertusONE: RT @britz: “@JD_Dillon: I wish managers would unlearn the word “training” and replace it with “appropriate solution” #lrnchat” /ditto!
09:56:34 pm trainersleaders: lrnchat wrap-up: Paul Signorelli, San Franicisco-based writer-trainer-consultant: new blog piece at http://t.co/FsnS29uY #lrnchat
09:56:38 pm eLearninCyclops: Q6) Unlearn that not every participant needs a PhD, rather just enuf took make ’em dangerous #lrnchat
09:56:47 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: QWrap) Its that time again. Please re-introduce yourself. (Shameless plugs welcome.) #lrnchat
09:57:25 pm LnDDave: RT @jmarrapodi: this has been a good discussion much to think about #lrnchat
09:57:33 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourself. (Shameless plugs welcome.) #lrnchat
09:57:33 pm huiwana: #lrnchat QWrap) Huiwan, New Zealand, got here 3 weeks ago! Loving it oh yeah! Work life balance finalyl!!!
09:57:44 pm JaneBozarth: Jane, currently in Raleigh, headed to Syracuse, DC, Baltimore, Chicago, London, Vegas, Atlanta, Orlando, San Antone. Look me up! #lrnchat
09:57:48 pm JD_Dillon: JD from Orlando, FL … Starting a new blog soon just so I can have something to plug in #lrnchat
09:57:53 pm anicole87: RT @LnDDave: Q6) lots of people need to unlearn their perceives acceptance of REPLY TO ALL #lrnchat
09:58:06 pm eLearninCyclops: Qwrap) Jeff Goldman eLearning Designer in Baltimore. Thx for the great #lrnchat
09:58:07 pm britz: “@jmass: Even unlearning is learning. #lrnchat” / well look who dropped in! How’ve u been Justin?
09:58:21 pm anicole87: RT @tomspiglanin: Q6) please unlearn the notion that L&D is the primary source of learning. #LrnChat
09:58:35 pm profgesser: @JaneBozarth show off😉 #lrnchat
09:58:39 pm LnDDave: QWrap) David Kelly from New York; thanks everyone for a great chat. #lrnchat
09:58:54 pm _Kavi: RT @jmarrapodi: Q4) Dieting is not permantly successful unless you unlearn the eating habits that got you in trouble. #lrnchat
09:59:17 pm jmarrapodi: Qwrap) Jean Marrapodi, Providence, RI. Intentional learner teaching at New England College of Business #lrnchat
09:59:25 pm lilred_apagog: Good night from Brooklyn! Great hearing everyones ideas. #lrnchat
09:59:41 pm ChandrikaKhera: Chandrika Khera, Instructional Designer based in San Jose. Keen observer of motivations of learning. Searching for a new job.🙂 #lrnchat
10:00:01 pm JaneBozarth: @profgesser #HardLife #lrnchat
10:00:17 pm ThomasStone: Thomas Stone, from Rochester, NY. Another good #lrnchat — thanks everyone!
10:00:22 pm huiwana: @ChandrikaKhera Wanna come to New Zealand for the new job? #lrnchat
10:00:26 pm JaneBozarth: @profgesser & got busted earlier for forgetting Syracuse (@britz) #lrnchat
10:00:29 pm ChandrikaKhera: QWrap) Thanks for the great company. Learned a lot, unlearned nothing.🙂 #lrnchat
10:00:42 pm blogalogue: RT @kat_frame: #lrnchat can anyone recommend good readings about unlearning?
10:01:11 pm lrnchat: Goodnight everyone. See you next week, August 9th, 8:30pm EST / 5:30pm PST. #lrnchat
10:02:29 pm audioswhite: @britz Changing technique requires a lot if not constant application of the new. I think that can be called unlearning. #lrnchat
10:02:46 pm Dave_Ferguson: @blogalogue @kat_frame This blog post (mine) has refs to some research on acquiring habits. #lrnchat
10:03:05 pm britz: Mark Britz- I’m pluggin’ that we got @JaneBozarth coming to the ‘Cuse this fall! #woot #Syracuse #lrnchat
10:03:40 pm ExpertusONE: TY! I’m KK interested in ppl & ideas that matter to Expertus (cloud LMS & services). Listening, learning & sometimes unlearning too #lrnchat
10:03:46 pm Dave_Ferguson: @blogalogue @kat_frame Apparently I have unlearned including the link: http://t.co/6iZqdZFS #lrnchat

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