Transcript 10 May 2012

08:30:05 pm lrnchat: Hello everyone and welcome. How’ve you been? #lrnchat
08:30:21 pm JGoodTO: #lrnchat First time joining in and am looking forward to it! Sitting in a Portuguese bakery w/ a sandwich and a can of Guarana!
08:30:31 pm vmc_teachers: RT @lrnchat: Hello everyone and welcome. How’ve you been? #lrnchat
08:30:46 pm vmc_teachers: Hey #lrnchat! Very busy, but alright!🙂
08:30:51 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Hello everyone and welcome. Howve you been? | Happy as a clam #lrnchat
08:30:52 pm lrnchat: Please introduce yourselves: who, what, where? Interests? Gifts? #lrnchat
08:31:16 pm vmc_teachers: RT @lrnchat: Please introduce yourselves: who, what, where? Interests? Gifts? #lrnchat
08:31:52 pm Quinnovator: yay, time for that 90 min memestream fest known as #lrnchat. Welcome to new and returning participants
08:31:59 pm vmc_teachers: @__vm from Montréal QC, I love creating, music, fencing, languages, learning…🙂 #lrnchat
08:32:11 pm cindyhugg: howdy! joining #lrnchat after an extended absence. good to be back! RT @lrnchat: Hello everyone and welcome. How’ve you been? #lrnchat
08:32:31 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, learning experience design architect & strategist, genial malcontent, author/consultant/speaker Walnut Creek CA #lrnchat
08:32:34 pm JaneBozarth: I’m Jane, Raleigh-ish. Doctor of learnin’ stuff. Author. Mixing metaphors madly for decades. Fit as a fiddle. #lrnchat
08:32:35 pm jankenb2: #lrnchat Good morning from Ankara Turkey. Jenny, ESL instructor and teacher trainer.
08:32:54 pm midquel: Hi there- Heather, in Boston, MA – like @cindyhugg back to #lrnchat after long absence
08:32:57 pm JackMassa: #lrnchat . Newbie, typing slowly on my ipad
08:33:07 pm minutebio: Q0) Jeff Goldman – eLearning Designer in Baltimore. Gift – creating online learning despite the usual nonsense at my org #lrnchat
08:33:09 pm chillcrys: @lrnchat Crystal Runge, Phx AZ, first time participant in #lrnchat. Interested in trying on a Twitter chat for the first time!
08:33:19 pm JaneBozarth: @jankenb2 I was bragging about my trip to Turkey just the other day. How are things your way? #lrnchat
08:33:26 pm cindyhugg: I’m Cindy, joining in from Raleigh NC, I help people & orgs move to the live online classroom #lrnchat
08:33:31 pm JaneBozarth: @JackMassa there might be a metaphor in there somewhere tonight… #lrnchat
08:33:43 pm tomspiglanin: Tom from L.A., joining by mobile. #lrnchat is like having a room full of experts in the palm of my hand.
08:33:53 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Please introduce yourselves: who, what, where? Interests? Gifts? #lrnchat
08:33:53 pm PaulPetroskiJr: Paul from Denver , 1st timer #Lrnchat
08:34:13 pm JGoodTO: #lrnchat From Toronto, Canada. Social junkie. Into L&D + Social + apps. Always looking to learn & connect. Gifts? Goofiness. : )
08:34:20 pm lrnchat: Q0: what did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:34:24 pm ryantracey: Ryan Tracey from sunny Sydney. #lrnchat
08:34:29 pm kitszle: Kit – still a newbie after 2 #lrnchats. Looking forward to mixing it up metaphorically #lrnchat
08:34:31 pm PivotLearning: Pivot Learning Partners – San Francisco based nonprofit revitalizing education. #lrnchat
08:34:33 pm cindyhugg: @billcush nice to see you on #lrnchat. this is 3x in a week, I think?
08:34:42 pm cindyhugg: RT @lrnchat: Q0: what did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:34:50 pm billcush: Bill in Denver. Learning dude. Tryin’ to get people to learn despite great training. #lrnchat
08:34:56 pm 2lead2day: #lrnchat Cammy down in good ol’ NC, former Teacher gone Learning/Comm. specialist
08:35:03 pm tomspiglanin: @JackMassa hi Jack. Tapping into my phone, I’d prefer the iPad. Welcome! #lrnchat
08:35:05 pm chillcrys: @PaulPetroskiJr Yeah! I’m not the only #lrnchat newbie!🙂
08:35:07 pm Quinnovator: q0) relearned: waiting sucks, or I’m not a patient person #lrnchat
08:35:16 pm midquel: And I forgot to mention- I advise instructors on designing online and hybrid learning experiences #lrnchat
08:35:22 pm LiamJBayerSr: Liam Bayer – San Francisco – Former teacher working for education nonprofit organization. #lrnchat
08:35:38 pm jsuzcampos: Jeannette Campos, suffering in #RedSox nation, lover of learning, seeking elegance in all things #design #lrnchat
08:35:48 pm vmc_teachers: Q0 Learned to very well defend your opinions with friends who like to oppose themselves to you🙂 #lrnchat
08:35:49 pm cindyhugg: ugh, one of my daily lessons🙂 RT @Quinnovator: q0) relearned: waiting sucks, or I’m not a patient person #lrnchat
08:35:54 pm billcush: Roger that. RT @tomspiglanin: Tom from L.A., joining by mobile. #lrnchat is like having a room full of experts in the palm of my hand.
08:36:05 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q0: what did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:35:54 pm billcush: Roger that. RT @tomspiglanin: Tom from L.A., joining by mobile. #lrnchat is like having a room full of experts in the palm of my hand.
08:36:05 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q0: what did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:36:05 pm JaneBozarth: @jsuzcampos hey phil! #lrnchat
08:36:12 pm PaulPetroskiJr: Q0) #astd2012 nuff said #Lrnchat
08:36:20 pm JaneBozarth: @cindyhugg @quinnovator Patience is overrated. #lrnchat
08:36:21 pm JackMassa: #lrnchat Learned some cool visualization tools from an analytics vendor. Maps as metaphors
08:36:30 pm edCetraT: hello.. nancy joining in from T.O. #lrnchat
08:36:43 pm tomspiglanin: Q0) joined an ILT as student, listening skills. Great class, learned new collaborative techniques #lrnchat
08:37:00 pm midquel: q0) This week has been full of learning. Main lesson (ongoing)- it is pointless to worry about uncertain situations #lrnchat
08:37:02 pm jsuzcampos: Hi @JaneBozarth – I thought I might be the last one here, and hence, a rotten egg. #lrnchat
08:37:07 pm EdutainmentM: #lrnchat #sdle Cheryl Lasse, fan of self-directed learning, who can now add ASTD ICE presenter to my resume.
08:37:29 pm billcush: Q0) Learned that I could create 4 days of learning activities for 250 people w/ 1 day’s notice, if I had to. & I had to. #lrnchat #pooped
08:37:38 pm cindyhugg: Q0) I re-learned the beauty of simplicity. yet for some reason we are drawn to make things so complicated #lrnchat
08:37:38 pm larrydelaneyjr: #lrnchat howdy all!
08:37:42 pm JaneBozarth: @midquel you got that right. A friend always says, “No need to panic now– there’ll be plenty of time for that later.” #lrnchat
08:37:54 pm tomspiglanin: Nice, understand that “@JaneBozarth: @cindyhugg @quinnovator Patience is overrated. #lrnchat”
08:38:01 pm JaneBozarth: @jsuzcampos excellent. We’ve already had some renegade similes so I need your help now… #lrnchat
08:38:04 pm Quinnovator: q0) learned that I don’t know enough about ERPs to be able to ponder integration w/ SoMe #lrnchat
08:38:08 pm billcush: @cindyhugg Color me fortunate. #lrnchat
08:38:28 pm chris_saeger: Q0) roanoke va, learned that large open course events are addictive #bonkchat🙂 #lrnchat
08:38:38 pm kitszle: Gotta learn that lesson too RT @midquel: q0) Main lesson (ongoing)- it is pointless to worry about uncertain situations #lrnchat
08:38:42 pm 2lead2day: #lrnchat learned more about the NCLB waivers….zzzzz
08:38:42 pm ainsliehunter: Ainslie from sunny Brisbane Australia who learnt that kid’s doctors and nurses are great #lrnchat
08:39:05 pm JaneBozarth: @cindyhugg timely lesson for tonight’s topic. looking forward to hearing what you have to say. #lrnchat
08:39:05 pm tomspiglanin: Q0+) I also learned I should eat more than a piece of chocolate cake for lunch.😦 #lrnchat
08:39:24 pm PivotLearning: A0. As it is national teacher appreciation week, learned to #ThankATeacher and tell a teacher #YouMatter! #lrnchat
08:39:28 pm JaneBozarth: @2lead2day did you learn that, or just tolerate it? #lrnchat
08:39:30 pm TheAirton: Q0: all leaders need some form if presentation skills no matter how little they present. #lrnchat
08:39:30 pm midquel: @JaneBozarth I might put that quote on my wall next to my “no good deed goes unpunished” sign #lrnchat
08:39:32 pm EdutainmentM: #lrnchat Q0: learned how to navigate ASTD ICE… met some really cool folks, and saw some really cool products (Promethean board)
08:39:48 pm lrnchat: Q1) Why do metaphors emerge? #lrnchat
08:39:49 pm Quinnovator: just as primer, 7 deep metaphors: balance, transformation, journey, container, connection, resource, control (Zaltman) #lrnchat
08:40:10 pm Quinnovator: but wonder where ‘conflict’ is on that list🙂 #lrnchat
08:40:12 pm LiamJBayerSr: A0. Learned the importance of equity, and respecting others and having faith in human potential. #lrnchat
08:40:21 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why do metaphors emerge? #lrnchat
08:40:31 pm EdutainmentM: “@midquel: q0) This week has been full of learning. Main lesson – it is pointless to worry about uncertain situations #lrnchat” AGREED!
08:40:35 pm britz: Mark Britz in ‘Cuse. Mngr learning Solutions…good to be plunging in the lrnchat pool again… metaphorically speaking. #lrnchat
08:40:42 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why do metaphors emerge? #lrnchat
08:40:46 pm edCetraT: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why do metaphors emerge? #lrnchat
08:40:49 pm vmc_teachers: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why do metaphors emerge? #lrnchat
08:40:51 pm Quinnovator: q1) our brains are wired to detect patterns and similarities, metaphors are natural resonances #lrnchat
08:40:53 pm larrydelaneyjr: Q0) I learned that when my PM is gone, and is out of the country, leaving me in charge, things WILL go wrong! #lrnchat
08:40:56 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why do metaphors emerge? #lrnchat
08:40:59 pm tomspiglanin: “@lrnchat: Q1) Why do metaphors emerge? #lrnchat”
08:41:04 pm vmc_teachers: Q1 The human being lives upon relations and comparisons. #lrnchat
08:41:05 pm cindyhugg: @britz hi mark, great to ‘see’ you in #lrnchat!
08:41:08 pm lodtrain: #lrnchat Learned to turn off Outlook notifications so that I can do my work without email distractions (can review any time I want)
08:41:11 pm minutebio: RT @edCetraT: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why do metaphors emerge? #lrnchat
08:41:15 pm billcush: Q1) People just need something they already know to latch on to… #lrnchat
08:41:16 pm cindyhugg: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why do metaphors emerge? #lrnchat
08:41:17 pm JaneBozarth: New to The Twitter? Try Tweetchat — it’ll add that hashtag for you. #lrnchat
08:41:17 pm EdutainmentM: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why do metaphors emerge? #lrnchat
08:41:22 pm TheAirton: BTW Airton from sunny, not in the, afternoons, Orlanydo #lrnchat
08:41:36 pm JaneBozarth: @larrydelaneyjr is that project manager, or have you been acting Prime Minister? #lrnchat
08:41:37 pm MegSecatore: RT @Quinnovator: q1) our brains are wired to detect patterns and similarities, metaphors are natural resonances #lrnchat
08:41:37 pm 2lead2day: @JaneBozarth well…its relevant to my work…but not super exciting – rather be here at #lrnchat !
08:41:42 pm JackMassa: #lrnchat I think metaphors emerge from the need to understand the new based on what we already know. No?
08:41:52 pm JaneBozarth: Metaphors seem to emerge to help make complex simple . In my work esp around emerging techs, electronics, communication #lrnchat #lrnchat
08:41:59 pm chillcrys: @lrnchat Q1) Because people need common ground/experiences to communicate/understand each other. #lrnchat
08:42:08 pm kitszle: Q1) Because the human brain likes to amuse itself? #lrnchat
08:42:10 pm britz: @cindyhugg Hi Cindy – yes been quite busy as of late. hope you are well #lrnchat
08:42:12 pm timwilsononline: Hi first time in #lrnchat🙂 training mgr and former ID, working in Melb AUS
08:42:14 pm vmc_teachers: RT @kitszle: Q1) Because the human brain likes to amuse itself? #lrnchat
08:42:15 pm tomspiglanin: @Quinnovator metaphors can focus attention quickly on big picture concepts #lrnchat
08:42:24 pm vmc_teachers: RT @tomspiglanin: @Quinnovator metaphors can focus attention quickly on big picture concepts #lrnchat
08:42:24 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: Metaphors seem to emerge to help make complex simple #lrnchat
08:42:24 pm PivotLearning: @quinnovator Metaphors emerge due to relevance and comprehension. #lrnchat
08:42:26 pm minutebio: RT @JackMassa: #lrnchat I think metaphors emerge from the need to understand the new based on what we already know. | Yes #lrnchat
08:42:35 pm billcush: @quinnovator Sometimes I miss the patterns. #lrnchat
08:42:41 pm britz: RT @chillcrys: @lrnchat Q1) Because people need common ground/experiences to communicate/understand each other. #lrnchat
08:42:45 pm chris_saeger: Q1) what does it mean to “emerge”? isn’t that a metaphor too? #lrnchat
08:42:46 pm cindyhugg: my brain thinks in pictures and analogies, metaphors help me process q1) #lrnchat
08:42:56 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) Metaphors emerge to help us understand “one thing in terms of something else” – it’s pattern recognition. #lrnchat
08:42:58 pm JaneBozarth: @midquel my sign says, “Oh, look, drama! Let’s make popcorn!” #lrnchat
08:43:00 pm larrydelaneyjr: #lrnchat I only wish I was the Prime Minister for a day!
08:43:05 pm Quinnovator: q1) metaphors allow us to use familiar concepts to understand the unfamiliar #lrnchat
08:43:15 pm billcush: I know the feeling. RT @larrydelaneyjr: Q0) I learned that when my PM is gone, leaving me in charge, things WILL go wrong! #lrnchat
08:43:20 pm minutebio: Q1) & to create an image in our mind. #lrnchat
08:43:21 pm JaneBozarth: Useful in framing complex problem/concepts (“genetic code”) #lrnchat #lrnchat
08:43:32 pm TheAirton: Q1) they emerge to simplify and connect information to a greater audience #lrnchat
08:43:39 pm Quinnovator: RT @billcush: @quinnovator Sometimes I miss the patterns. #lrnchat < me too. We sometimes bring in concepts that *appear* a match
08:43:43 pm chillcrys: @JackMassa I absolutely agree! #lrnchat
08:43:48 pm midquel: Love it! RT @JaneBozarth: @midquel my sign says, “Oh, look, drama! Let’s make popcorn!” #lrnchat
08:43:49 pm JaneBozarth: @jsuzcampos yes not just language, but pattern recognition #lrnchat
08:43:58 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: Useful in framing complex problem/concepts (“genetic code”) #lrnchat #lrnchat
08:43:59 pm JackMassa: RT @jsuzcampos: Q1) Metaphors emerge to help us understand “one thing in terms of something else” – it’s pattern recognition. #lrnchat
08:44:03 pm cindyhugg: RT @midquel: q1) metaphors emerge b/c stories appeal 2emotion. learning occurs more strongly when tied to sth we care about #lrnchat
08:44:15 pm kitszle: RT @EdutainmentM: #lrnchat Q1: Metaphors make the new… familiar. #sdle #lrnchat
08:44:20 pm vmc_teachers: RT @Quinnovator: RT @billcush: @quinnovator Sometimes I miss the patterns. #lrnchat < me too. We sometimes bring in concepts that *appear* a match
08:44:22 pm JaneBozarth: @jsuzcampos PS on pattern recognition — just read great novel ‘Speed of Dark’ re man w autism hired for that ability #lrnchat
08:44:24 pm minutebio: Q1) Because a metaphor is worth a 1000 words😉 #lrnchat
08:44:27 pm vmc_teachers: RT @kitszle: RT @EdutainmentM: #lrnchat Q1: Metaphors make the new… familiar. #sdle #lrnchat
08:44:30 pm larrydelaneyjr: A1) Metaphors emerge when I need to wake my audience up from a coma. #lrnchat
08:44:39 pm vmc_teachers: I like! RT @minutebio: Q1) Because a metaphor is worth a 1000 words😉 #lrnchat
08:44:39 pm Quinnovator: RT @jsuzcampos: Q1) Metaphors emerge to help us understand “one thing in terms of something else” – it’s pattern recognition. #lrnchat
08:44:47 pm Quinnovator: RT @cindyhugg: my brain thinks in pictures and analogies, metaphors help me process q1) #lrnchat
08:44:47 pm EdutainmentM: “@JaneBozarth: Useful in framing complex problem/concepts (“genetic code”) #lrnchat”
08:44:52 pm minutebio: RT @kitszle: RT @EdutainmentM: Q1: Metaphors make the new… familiar. #sdle #lrnchat
08:44:53 pm JaneBozarth: @jsuzcampos per Schnick et al not really about language, but way we conceptualize one mental frame in terms of another #lrnchat #lrnchat
08:45:07 pm tomspiglanin: Q1) metaphor in today’s class: the understanding pipe. The visual will help me remember the concept. #lrnchat
08:45:07 pm tomspiglanin: Q1) metaphor in today’s class: the understanding pipe. The visual will help me remember the concept. #lrnchat
08:45:22 pm Quinnovator: q1) our brain thinks in terms of models/concepts, metaphors convey concepts/models from another, similar, situation #lrnchat
08:45:23 pm JGoodTO: RT @cindyhugg: my brain thinks in pictures and analogies, metaphors help me process q1) #lrnchat Same here.
08:45:36 pm Dave_Ferguson: Metaphor: it’s also a way to IMPOSE a pattern. Constellations are meaningless, except as imposed pattern. #lrnchat
08:45:42 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) Also, as I learned from @DanielPink – metaphors are a way to build “imaginative rationality” – 1 of 2 #lrnchat
08:45:44 pm vmc_teachers: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Metaphor: it’s also a way to IMPOSE a pattern. Constellations are meaningless, except as imposed pattern. #lrnchat
08:45:50 pm Quinnovator: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Metaphor: it’s also a way to IMPOSE a pattern. Constellations are meaningless, except as imposed pattern. #lrnchat
08:45:59 pm PaulPetroskiJr: Q1) because we have a hard time explaining complex concepts #Lrnchat
08:46:06 pm JaneBozarth: Can shock: saw video today showing HS valedictiorian describing time in school as ‘enslavement’ http://t.co/P1lngJYF #lrnchat
08:46:08 pm PivotLearning: Metaphors can also be very exclusionary… Imagine for English Learners – or anyone that can’t understand. #lrnchat
08:46:09 pm kelly_smith01: RT @EdutainmentM: “@JaneBozarth: Useful in framing complex problem/concepts (“genetic code”) #lrnchat”
08:46:13 pm Quinnovator: RT @PaulPetroskiJr: Q1) because we have a hard time explaining complex concepts #Lrnchat
08:46:14 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) The ability to use the “whole brain” – 2 of 2. #lrnchat
08:46:18 pm minutebio: Q1) Plus, metaphors can help keep things concise. #lrnchat
08:46:19 pm JaneBozarth: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Metaphor: its also a way to IMPOSE a pattern. Constellations are meaningless, except as imposed pattern. #lrnchat
08:46:22 pm cindyhugg: RT @jsuzcampos: Q1) Also, as I learned from @DanielPink – metaphors are a way to build “imaginative rationality” – 1 of 2 #lrnchat
08:46:33 pm PivotLearning: RT @jsuzcampos: Q1) Also, as I learned from @DanielPink – metaphors are a way to build “imaginative rationality” – 1 of 2 #lrnchat
08:46:51 pm TheAirton: They emerge more often to fill in time when you’ve run out of anecdotal info #lrnchat
08:46:54 pm jsuzcampos: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Metaphor: its also a way to IMPOSE a pattern. Constellations are meaningless, except as imposed pattern. #lrnchat
08:46:54 pm Quinnovator: q1) our existing concepts have rich relationships, we can convey new complexity quickly by metaphor #lrnchat
08:46:54 pm Dave_Ferguson: Patterns we hold most deeply are those that blind us. English speakers: when to use “the,” when “a,” and when neither? #lrnchat
08:47:00 pm JaneBozarth: Q1 When people trying to articulate beliefs (& chosen metaphors say a great deal about person) #lrnchat #lrnchat
08:47:13 pm vmc_teachers: RT @Quinnovator: q1) our existing concepts have rich relationships, we can convey new complexity quickly by metaphor #lrnchat
08:47:24 pm cindyhugg: Can be interesting onsequences when we impose incorrect patterns RT @Dave_Ferguson: Metaphor: its also a way to IMPOSE a pattern. #lrnchat
08:47:38 pm tomspiglanin: Q1) metaphors are like spoken pictures. And a picture says 1000 words. #lrnchat
08:47:39 pm LiamJBayerSr: @jsuzcampos I love @DanielPink’s book – Used it as the basis for my curriculum for critical thinking and creativity. #lrnchat
08:47:42 pm JaneBozarth: Q1 metaphors emerge in confronting complexity and wicked problems #lrnchat
08:47:52 pm ChuckHerbst: RT @minutebio: RT @kitszle: RT @EdutainmentM: Q1: Metaphors make the new… familiar. #sdle #lrnchat
08:48:02 pm EdutainmentM: “@jsuzcampos: Q1) Also, as I learned from @DanielPink – metaphors are a way to build “imaginative rationality” #lrnchat” I like that!
08:48:14 pm ryantracey: Agree. Like jargon, they are short-cuts. RT @minutebio: Q1) Plus, metaphors can help keep things concise. #lrnchat
08:48:18 pm edCetraT: Q1)Metaphors emerge to reach out to individual experiences #lrnchat
08:48:32 pm PivotLearning: @paulpetroskijr All the world’s a stage, and all the men and women merely players. They have their exits and their entrances. #lrnchat
08:48:34 pm JackMassa: “@Dave_Ferguson: Metaphor: it’s also a way to IMPOSE a pattern. Constellations are meaningless, except as imposed pattern. #lrnchat”
08:48:36 pm TheAirton: Q1) metaphors allow hearers to create visual images and ques. They get to filter and control thought. #lrnchat
08:48:43 pm edCetraT: RT @tomspiglanin: Q1) metaphors are like spoken pictures. And a picture says 1000 words. #lrnchat
08:48:49 pm jsuzcampos: @LiamJBayerSr Love that book (AND) I have a son named Liam! Today is his birthday!
#lrnchat
08:48:57 pm Quinnovator: q1) it’s natural for us to explain the new by reference to the old #lrnchat
08:49:04 pm 2lead2day: #lrnchat Q1) think they came about as the way of making a connection by providing a verbal visual
08:49:07 pm tomspiglanin: RT @edCetraT: Q1)Metaphors emerge to reach out to individual experiences #lrnchat
08:49:10 pm TheAirton: RT @edCetraT: Q1)Metaphors emerge to reach out to individual experiences #lrnchat
08:49:16 pm vmc_teachers: RT @Quinnovator: q1) it’s natural for us to explain the new by reference to the old #lrnchat
08:49:19 pm timwilsononline: #lrnchat Q1) Useful for helping a group of people think about a new concept in the same way … i.e. share a consistent model.
08:49:20 pm jankenb2: #lrnchat Metaphors also carry visual imagery that words alone cannot. To describe something in terms of another connects new knowledge 2 old
08:49:22 pm JaneBozarth: @jsuzcampos he is exploring elevenness. #lrnchat
08:49:25 pm PivotLearning: @vmc_teachers Right! One of the first things that English Learners do is learn metaphors because it allows them to relate. #lrnchat
08:49:26 pm audioswhite: RT @Quinnovator: q1) our existing concepts have rich relationships, we can convey new complexity quickly by metaphor #lrnchat
08:49:31 pm Dave_Ferguson: -@vmc_teachers Re language analogy, it’s good to remember (w/ metaphors) “traduttore, traditore” (translator = traitor) #lrnchat
08:49:38 pm gerdriesen: L&D addict from the Netherlands still hanging out in Denver #ASTD2012 #lrnchat
08:49:55 pm midquel: q1) metaphors help us recognize patterns, reduce complex ideas , impose incorrect patterns, dramatic effect, capture emotion #lrnchat
08:50:00 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) Metaphors emerge as pathway to understanding self. “The search for appropriate personal metaphors to makes sense of our lives.” #lrnchat
08:50:07 pm tomspiglanin: RT @Quinnovator: q1) it’s natural for us to explain the new by reference to the old #lrnchat
08:50:08 pm 2lead2day: #lrnchat Q1) Brains want to connect new info to old stuff – therefore, metaphors evolve
08:50:13 pm JaneBozarth: @gerdriesen hi ger! good crossing paths– #lrnchat
08:50:14 pm cindyhugg: is it different in other languages?RT @PivotLearning: @vmc_teachers One of the 1st things English Learners do is learn metaphors #lrnchat
08:50:20 pm JGoodTO: @edcetrat Excellent pt. Individual experiences bring learners into deeper engagement & possibly increase retention. #lrnchat
08:50:21 pm ryantracey: Hence the term “ebook” – RT @Quinnovator: q1) its natural for us to explain the new by reference to the old #lrnchat
08:50:30 pm dawnjmahoney: Hey Lrnchatters-what is Q1? #Lrnchat
08:50:32 pm jsuzcampos: He told me that being eleven is awesome because he’s “#1 twice!” –> RT @JaneBozarth: he is exploring elevenness. #lrnchat
08:50:32 pm Dave_Ferguson: @gerdriesen Mountains are bigger, but the cheese maybe isn’t as good.😉
#lrnchat
08:50:37 pm LiamJBayerSr: @jsuzcampos Happy Birthday! Great to hear about other Liam’s. I know many and have one 7 year old myself. #lrnchat
08:50:37 pm vmc_teachers: @Dave_Ferguson @PivotLearning Yes, and every time I learn a new language, I also learn a new way to think. #lrnchat
08:50:40 pm tomspiglanin: @Quinnovator …and the familiar #lrnchat
08:50:58 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @gerdriesen: L&D addict from the Netherlands still hanging out in Denver/me too!😉 #Lrnchat
08:51:02 pm Quinnovator: @dawnjmahoney where do metaphors come from #Lrnchat
08:51:03 pm JaneBozarth: @dawnjmahoney Q1 why do metaphors emerge? #lrnchat
08:51:04 pm cindyhugg: @dawnjmahoney RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why do metaphors emerge? #lrnchat
08:51:06 pm vmc_teachers: @cindyhugg @PivotLearning I’m completely certain not. #lrnchat
08:51:21 pm JaneBozarth: Follow / see @lrnchat for quick list of questions as they’re posted… #lrnchat
08:51:26 pm Dave_Ferguson: @ryantracey Or “bookcase,” which once was a wooden crate (a case) to store them in. #lrnchat
08:51:41 pm PivotLearning: @cindyhugg Not completely! They have learned many of the same metaphors in their own languages. #lrnchat
08:51:42 pm kellygarber: RT @edutainmentm: “@jsuzcampos: Q1) Also, as I learned from @DanielPink – metaphors are a way to build “imaginative rationality” #lrnchat”
08:51:44 pm dawnjmahoney: Thanks so much! #Lrnchat
08:51:48 pm gerdriesen: “Yes! @JaneBozarth: @gerdriesen hi ger! good crossing paths– #lrnchat”
08:52:01 pm JaneBozarth: @jsuzcampos I’m exploring thirty-ness. Shut up. #lrnchat
08:52:09 pm tomspiglanin: @dawnjmahoney “@lrnchat: Q1) Why do metaphors emerge? #lrnchat”
08:52:11 pm edCetraT: q1) triggering emotion to help people understand
#lrnchat
08:52:21 pm jankenb2: Q1 #lrnchat metaphor generates an image which is based on partial truth,
requiring students to focus on one aspect of a topic in a novel way
08:52:32 pm JaneBozarth: FYI y’all @gerdriesen had the coolest suit at #ASTD2012 #lrnchat
08:52:35 pm JackMassa: #lrnchat @cindyhugg . I think every language uses metaphor in its poetry.
08:52:46 pm JaneBozarth: GOOD. YES. RT @edCetraT: q1) triggering emotion to help people understand #lrnchat
08:53:04 pm audioswhite: Q1) Metaphors emerge to provide relatable texture to abstract concepts and ideas, can make them tactile #lrnchat
08:53:15 pm cindyhugg: So metaphor emerges in all cultures, all languages. RT @JackMassa: #lrnchat think every language uses metaphor in its poetry.
08:53:20 pm Quinnovator: RT @edCetraT: q1) triggering emotion to help people understand #lrnchat < yes, does bring in richer picture than just ‘formal elements’
08:53:20 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Did Bloom publish a metaphor domain? #lrnchat
08:53:24 pm PivotLearning: @vmc_teachers A language’s structures and culture instill and motivate a new way of thinking. Like a metaphor itself. #lrnchat
08:53:24 pm vmc_teachers: RT @audioswhite: Q1) Metaphors emerge to provide relatable texture to abstract concepts and ideas, can make them tactile #lrnchat
08:53:25 pm edCetraT: Pix please!—RT @JaneBozarth: FYI yall @gerdriesen had the coolest suit at #ASTD2012 #lrnchat
08:53:26 pm lrnchat: Q2) Do metaphors always help, or can they hinder, understanding? #lrnchat
08:53:27 pm ryantracey: @Dave_Ferguson bonus point #lrnchat
08:53:30 pm vmc_teachers: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Do metaphors always help, or can they hinder, understanding? #lrnchat
08:53:31 pm cindyhugg: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Do metaphors always help, or can they hinder, understanding? #lrnchat
08:53:51 pm JackMassa: RT @audioswhite: Q1) Metaphors emerge to provide relatable texture to abstract concepts and ideas, can make them tactile #lrnchat
08:53:53 pm kellygarber: Q1 – to learn something we don’t understand by relating it to something we do …kinda like … #lrnchat
08:54:00 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat Q2 Do metaphors always help, or can they hinder, understanding? #lrnchat #lrnchat
08:54:04 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Do metaphors always help, or can they hinder, understanding? #lrnchat
08:54:09 pm Quinnovator: @cindyhugg reckon also that there may be core ‘metaphors’ that cross cultures #lrnchat
08:54:10 pm vmc_teachers: Q2 Metaphors do contribute to enrich a learning, but can also make another blur. #lrnchat
08:54:17 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Do metaphors always help, or can they hinder, understanding? #lrnchat
08:54:19 pm edCetraT: RT @vmc_teachers: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Do metaphors always help, or can they hinder, understanding? #lrnchat
08:54:24 pm audioswhite: Nifty RT @edCetraT q1) triggering emotion to help people understand #lrnchat
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08:54:48 pm vmc_teachers: Q2 Another thing is, the blur may not be an error… Just that we have a tendency to want to precise everything! #lrnchat
08:54:49 pm kelly_smith01: RT @cindyhugg: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Do metaphors always help, or can they hinder, understanding? #lrnchat
08:54:50 pm tomspiglanin: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Do metaphors always help, or can they hinder, understanding? #lrnchat
08:54:51 pm JGoodTO: #lrnchat Scaffolding. Metaphors build on already held knowledge & help us to reach new ideas/truths.Otherwise the mental leap can overwhelm
08:54:52 pm LnDDave: Greetings all. David Kelly from NYC, a little late to the #lrnchat party. Hope everyone is well.
08:55:00 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) Metaphors may get lost in translation between different cultures. #lrnchat
08:55:05 pm gerdriesen: Thanks: like to be remembered for my session Van Gogh on Learning “@JaneBozarth: FYI y’all @gerdriesen had coolest suit #ASTD2012 #lrnchat
08:55:05 pm audioswhite: RT @Quinnovator: q2) can you say ‘mixed metaphor’? #lrnchat
08:55:06 pm chris_saeger: Q2) a metaphor may rely on context that is not shared and then it doen’t work #lrnchat
08:55:21 pm tomspiglanin: RT @JaneBozarth: Q2) THE WORST METAPHOR OF THE 20th CENTURY WAS “THE INFORMATION SUPERHIGHWAY”!! aaarrgghhhh ggaaaaahhhhh aaargghhh #lrnchat
08:55:22 pm PivotLearning: Metaphors can hinder understanding if the relevance is not understood. #lrnchat
08:55:22 pm britz: RT @Quinnovator: q2) can you say mixed metaphor? #lrnchat
08:55:23 pm Dave_Ferguson: I think unthinkingly chosen metaphors can definitely hinder — or in the case of relentless US sports analogies, bore to tears.
#lrnchat
08:55:27 pm kellygarber: Q2 – if the connection is made, they help. If the connection is not made, they hinder b/c now there is double to understand #lrnchat
08:55:29 pm Ricas_gti: Hello everyone! I’m Ricardo from Mississauga, Ontario, Canada, checking into #lrnchat for the first time!
08:55:34 pm JeanineDelay: RT @JaneBozarth: Join #lrnchat tonight at 8:30 EST tonight’s topic? METAPHORS. New? see http://t.co/iwQ3zIbY
08:55:37 pm 2lead2day: Q1) from an ed. perspective I think metaphors are an indicator of a higher thght process – seeking to make connections/crossreferce #lrnchat
08:55:39 pm midquel: q2) metaphors- by invoking assumed shared understanding– might miss their mark with the audience. #lrnchat
08:55:43 pm Quinnovator: q2) think of the ‘trashcan’ metaphor for the desktop, scared folks to drag their disks there to ‘eject’ #lrnchat
08:55:47 pm jsuzcampos: RT @chris_saeger: Q2) a metaphor may rely on context that is not shared and then it doent work #lrnchat
08:55:51 pm EdutainmentM: RT @kellygarber: Q1 – to learn something we don’t understand by relating it to something we do …kinda like … #lrnchat
08:56:01 pm edCetraT: q2) yes. as long as they are put into the right context. #lrnchat
08:56:07 pm EdutainmentM: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Do metaphors always help, or can they hinder, understanding? #lrnchat
08:56:17 pm minutebio: RT @ryantracey: Q2) Sure, metaphors can hinder understanding if theyre poorly chosen. Just like anything else. #lrnchat
08:56:24 pm Quinnovator: q2) metaphors can be used for good or evil (sort of like bullet points🙂 #lrnchat
08:56:24 pm audioswhite: High school poetry class comes to mind RT @lrnchat Q2) Do metaphors always help, or can they hinder, understanding? #lrnchat
08:56:25 pm gerdriesen: q1 Methaphors can help as a ‘ in between’ language bridging ideas of people with different point of view and background #lrnchat
08:56:33 pm JaneBozarth: @gerdriesen Ah, yes, I missed it. better to be remembered for good suit than bad suit? #lrnchat
08:56:37 pm chris_saeger: Q2) Watch startrek next gen, Darmok episode for an example. (a culture that uses only metaphor cannot communicate with others) #lrnchat
08:56:43 pm tomspiglanin: Q2) doesn’t help if you don’t know the metaphor. Like the first time I heard “belt and braces ” #lrnchat
08:56:44 pm PaulPetroskiJr: Q1) help all us left brained people act more right brained #lrnchat
08:56:50 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) Overuse of metaphors can remove connection to the context. #lrnchat
08:56:51 pm edCetraT: RT @minutebio: RT @ryantracey: Q2) Sure, metaphors can hinder understanding if theyre poorly chosen. Just like anything else. #lrnchat
08:56:52 pm 2lead2day: #lrnchat Q2) depends – meaning can be lost if cultural or class differences in thinking come into play
08:56:54 pm gerdriesen: Ooh good one! “@kelly_smith01: Q1) Did Bloom publish a metaphor domain? #lrnchat”
08:56:56 pm midquel: Are we differentiating conceptual metaphors and visual metaphors in this discussion? Are visual metaphors clearer than verbal? #lrnchat
08:56:58 pm Quinnovator: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @Quinnovator And who has wallpaper on a desktop? When you want to stop, why do you click START? #lrnchat
08:56:58 pm JaneBozarth: Look I made y’all a Pinterest board on learning metaphors http://t.co/3DqCljzt #lrnchat
08:57:00 pm britz: @Quinnovator aahh yes, the visual metaphor #lrnchat
08:57:04 pm JackMassa: #lrnchat Q2. They can certainly hinder. Joseph Campbell: confusing the map with the territory.
08:57:10 pm vmc_teachers: RT @2lead2day: #lrnchat Q2) depends – meaning can be lost if cultural or class differences in thinking come into play
08:57:14 pm Dave_Ferguson: Bad metaphor, email dept: in olden days, people didn’t enter an address until AFTER they wrote a letter. #lrnchat
08:57:17 pm cindyhugg: Q2 #lrnchat metaphors R useful if they are relevant & appropriate. good reason 4 trainers 2 stay fresh & current (get rid of dusty notepads)
08:57:18 pm larrydelaneyjr: RT @JaneBozarth: Q2) THE WORST METAPHOR OF THE 20th CENTURY WAS “THE INFORMATION SUPERHIGHWAY”!! aaarrgghhhh ggaaaaahhhhh aaargghhh #lrnchat
08:57:21 pm JaneBozarth: RT @gerdriesen: q1 Metaphors can help as in between language bridging ideas of people with different point of view & background #lrnchat
08:57:23 pm minutebio: RT @edCetraT: q2) yes. as long as they are put into the right context. | & understood by all #lrnchat
08:57:29 pm EdutainmentM: #lrnchat Q2: metaphors done well help… meaning you must know your audience #sdle
08:57:30 pm jsuzcampos: RT @JaneBozarth: Look I made yall a Pinterest board on learning metaphors http://t.co/IaAHIpbx #lrnchat
08:57:31 pm midquel: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Overuse of metaphors can remove connection to the context. #lrnchat
08:57:32 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Do metaphors always help, or can they hinder, understanding? #lrnchat
08:57:34 pm JaneBozarth: RT @JackMassa: #lrnchat Q2. They can certainly hinder. Joseph Campbell: confusing the map with the territory. #lrnchat
08:57:42 pm CigarPundit: Consider the source. RT @JaneBozarth: Q2) THE WORST METAPHOR OF THE 20th CENTURY WAS “THE INFORMATION SUPERHIGHWAY”!! #lrnchat
08:57:49 pm Quinnovator: @midquel not sure if the processing channel (linguistic/visual) matters, aren’t they all conceptual? #lrnchat
08:57:50 pm Dave_Ferguson: @larrydelaneyjr Paperless office. #lrnchat
08:57:59 pm JaneBozarth: MANY dangerous metaphors in L&D esp about learning as ‘acquisition’, learner as vessel, knowledge as property #lrnchat
08:58:12 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @jankenb2: Learning to use metaphor is a powerful instructional strategy/ leaders apply metaphors in conscious way. #Lrnchat
08:58:19 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: MANY dangerous metaphors in L&D esp about learning as ‘acquisition’, learner as vessel, knowledge as property #lrnchat
08:58:22 pm chris_saeger: Q1) container metaphor of learning. pour knowedge into students shaped some not so good teaching #lrnchat
08:58:22 pm JGoodTO: @tomspiglanin Very true! I’ve heard quite a number of metaphors over the yrs I’d never heard b4 therefore didn’t help.#lrnchat
08:58:23 pm wiselyricist: RT @peoplegogy: Game Changers: Education and Information Technologies http://t.co/I2FEykZt #edchat #elemchat #lrnchat
08:58:26 pm timwilsononline: #lrnchat Metaphors may not translate properly across cultures, and may not translate properly across generational groups – Gen X <-> Gen Y
08:58:32 pm 2lead2day: Q2) #lrnchat Metaphors can help or hinder- at times, simplify an abstract concept, other times require insider/advanced knowledge
08:58:37 pm ryantracey: I’ve seen that happen! RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Overuse of metaphors can remove connection to the context. #lrnchat
08:58:42 pm vmc_teachers: RT @2lead2day: Q2) #lrnchat Metaphors can help or hinder- at times, simplify an abstract concept, other times require insider/advanced knowledge
08:58:47 pm chris_saeger: RT @JaneBozarth: MANY dangerous metaphors in L&D esp about learning as ‘acquisition’, learner as vessel, knowledge as property #lrnchat
08:58:49 pm LiamJBayerSr: @quinnovator Like the broken “z” button on my Mac that scares me away from spelling pi**a. #lrnchat
08:58:49 pm JaneBozarth: @CigarPundit and that brings to point: male/female? Educ background? Prof field? Emerging metaphors would be different, right? #lrnchat
08:58:50 pm vmc_teachers: RT @ryantracey: I’ve seen that happen! RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Overuse of metaphors can remove connection to the context. #lrnchat
08:58:55 pm brdaly: RT @JaneBozarth: MANY dangerous metaphors in L&D esp about learning as ‘acquisition’, learner as vessel, knowledge as property #lrnchat
08:58:58 pm Quinnovator: q2) more dangerous metaphors: ‘individual’ innovator, social = ‘party’… #lrnchat
08:59:10 pm JaneBozarth: Q2 Can oversimplify, paint too small a picture, capture only part of concept #lrnchat #lrnchat
08:59:14 pm britz: RT @JaneBozarth: Look I made yall a Pinterest board on learning metaphors http://t.co/45tGnwLa / that’s it! You win! good night😉 #lrnchat
08:59:29 pm Dave_Ferguson: @timwilsononline Even the concept of “generational group” is a wobbly metaphor. Everyone from 1945 – 1964 the same? #lrnchat
08:59:34 pm dawnjmahoney: @LnDDave r u still stuck in “the terminal” ?🙂 #Lrnchat
08:59:35 pm midquel: @Quinnovator Certainly always conceptual. But when you add a visual, don’t we make it more concrete? If the goal is shared context..#lrnchat
08:59:37 pm gerdriesen: q2 the metaphor must catch the core idea in its crucial aspects otherwise it will be confusing #lrnchat
08:59:37 pm Quinnovator: RT @timwilsononline: #lrnchat Metaphors may not translate across cultures, and may not translate across generations
08:59:40 pm audioswhite: Q2) well here is where having an understanding of your “audience” can really come in to play. Relatable, context. #lrnchat
08:59:43 pm britz: RT @Quinnovator: q2) more dangerous metaphors: individual innovator, social = party… #lrnchat
08:59:45 pm JackMassa: RT @2lead2day: Q2) #lrnchat Metaphors can help or hinder- at times, simplify an abstract concept, other times require insider/advanced knowledge
08:59:45 pm ExpertusONE: A1) Why do metaphors emerge? Because (to use a metaphor) they’re mental shorthand. A “flash” form of context-by-association #lrnchat
09:00:05 pm JaneBozarth: @britz thank you. thankyouverymuch. #lrnchat
09:00:08 pm 2lead2day: Q2) bad metaphors can also expose faulty or in accurate concept knowledge/understanding #lrnchat
09:00:11 pm tomspiglanin: RT @ryantracey: I’ve seen that happen! RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Overuse of metaphors can remove connection to the context. #lrnchat
09:00:14 pm JaneBozarth: Sometimes danger is settling on just one metaphor #lrnchat
09:00:16 pm kellygarber: RT @JaneBozarth: Q2 Can oversimplify, paint too small a picture, capture only part of concept #lrnchat #lrnchat
09:00:26 pm vmc_teachers: RT @kellygarber: RT @JaneBozarth: Q2 Can oversimplify, paint too small a picture, capture only part of concept #lrnchat #lrnchat
09:00:32 pm Dave_Ferguson: And then there’s the metaphor of the Shareable Content Object. Little did we know “object” was a verb. #lrnchat
09:00:47 pm vmc_teachers: @kellygarber I think metaphors are also reductions. You are there to internally complete the idea. #lrnchat
09:00:52 pm LiamJBayerSr: @jackmassa Hinder, yes… Bob Dylan – Chaos is a friend of mine. #lrnchat
09:00:56 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: Sometimes danger is settling on just one metaphor #lrnchat < true that
09:01:08 pm JaneBozarth: Q2 In complex problems can block solution: defining conflict as ‘battleground’, for instance. #lrnchat
09:01:13 pm TheAirton: ‘Learner as vessel’@JaneBozarth this is new to. Sounds uber creep. #lrnchat
09:01:34 pm dawnjmahoney: From WI hanging out n CO a few more days. Big learning the past few days at #astd2012 #Lrnchat
09:01:35 pm tomspiglanin: Q2) bad metaphor: learning, when it isn’t. #lrnchat
09:01:37 pm Dave_Ferguson: @JaneBozarth Especially if that one metaphor is a Big Shot saying “that’s not the way we did it at OldCorp.” #lrnchat
09:01:50 pm gerdriesen: book Images of Organizations Gareth Morgan changed my pro life Must read if you like understand organizations: you should in L&D #lrnchat
09:01:51 pm RSLearning: RT @tomspiglanin: Q2) bad metaphor: learning, when it isn’t. #lrnchat
09:01:52 pm larrydelaneyjr: A2) metaphors usually dumb something down too much. Like Saying electronics these days are “user friendly” #lrnchat
09:02:01 pm ITKnowConsult: RT @tomspiglanin: Q2) bad metaphor: learning, when it isn’t. #lrnchat
09:02:14 pm JaneBozarth: Amen. RT @tomspiglanin: Q2) bad metaphor: learning, when it isnt. #lrnchat
09:02:16 pm LnDDave: RT @JaneBozarth: Q2 Can oversimplify, paint too small a picture, capture only part of concept #lrnchat #lrnchat
09:02:17 pm Dave_Ferguson: @TheAirton Learner as content, the Nurnberg Funnel, fill up those empty heads, etc., etc. #lrnchat
09:02:21 pm 2lead2day: @kellygarber @JaneBozarth in that same strain of thinking, could a metaphor also end up proliferating stereotypes? #lrnchat
09:02:32 pm Quinnovator: RT @larrydelaneyjr: metaphors usually dumb something down too much. Like electronics these days are “user friendly” #lrnchat < ‘intuitive’
09:02:44 pm LnDDave: RT @Quinnovator: RT @timwilsononline: #lrnchat Metaphors may not translate across cultures, and may not translate across generations
09:02:54 pm dawnjmahoney: Q2) think metaphors can help when telling stories/shortcut into learners’ language #Lrnchat
09:02:55 pm ITKnowConsult: RT @JaneBozarth: Sometimes danger is settling on just one metaphor #lrnchat
09:02:58 pm cindyhugg: Q2 #lrnchat general consensus seems to be that metaphors hinder more than help, however they can be useful when done well (analogy, story)
09:02:59 pm kellygarber: yes, agree! RT @vmc_teachers: @kellygarber I think metaphors are also reductions. You are there to internally complete the idea. #lrnchat
09:03:05 pm jankenb2: #lrnchat Q2 metaphors express the inexpressible, are vivid, & chunk info. They have positive effects on comprehension and memory.
09:03:07 pm JaneBozarth: @2lead2day sure #lrnchat
09:03:09 pm LnDDave: RT @JaneBozarth: Sometimes danger is settling on just one metaphor #lrnchat
09:03:15 pm vmc_teachers: RT @jankenb2: #lrnchat Q2 metaphors express the inexpressible, are vivid, & chunk info. They have positive effects on comprehension and memory.
09:03:18 pm jsuzcampos: Q2) Not all metaphors work. There are bad apples in every barrel. #lrnchat
09:03:21 pm Dave_Ferguson: @Quinnovator Usually “intuitive” means “the person speaking to you figured it out last week.” #lrnchat
09:03:27 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator @larrydelaney Not sure i’d go with ‘usually’ but agree with ‘sometimes’. #lrnchat
09:03:31 pm Quinnovator: @2lead2day YES, metaphors can create stereotypes, another artifact of our cog architecture #lrnchat
09:03:33 pm JeanineDelay: #lrnchat Q2Do metaphors always help, or can they hinder, understanding? Sometimes metaphors don’t translate or can offend across cultures.
09:03:38 pm LiamJBayerSr: @larrydelaneyjr Metaphors are a lot like marketing which is the rattling of a stick inside a swill bucket. #lrnchat
09:03:38 pm ITKnowConsult: “@JaneBozarth: Q2 Can oversimplify, paint too small a picture, capture only part of concept #lrnchat #lrnchat”<<so true!
09:03:42 pm LnDDave: RT @gerdriesen: “@jsuzcampos: Q1) Metaphors may get lost in translation between different cultures. #lrnchat”
09:03:51 pm 2lead2day: @gerdriesen @jsuzcampos definitely – many of our metaphors, must have knowledge of american culture in order for them to make sense #lrnchat
09:04:03 pm dawnjmahoney: “plastics, young man” #Lrnchat
09:04:03 pm minutebio: RT @dawnjmahoney: Q2) ..metaphors help when telling stories/shortcut into learners language | Shortcut in2 their imagination #lrnchat
09:04:05 pm JaneBozarth: @jsuzcampos lots of problems with metaphors around technology: miss the point, focus on only one feature or problem #lrnchat
09:04:09 pm kellygarber: exactly – relative RT @edutainmentm: #lrnchat Q2: metaphors done well help… meaning you must know your audience #sdle
09:04:15 pm ryantracey: LOL! RT @jsuzcampos: Q2) Not all metaphors work. There are bad apples in every barrel. #lrnchat
09:04:16 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator @larrydelaney Not sure i’d go with ‘usually’ but agree with ‘sometimes’. #lrnchat < granted
09:04:23 pm vmc_teachers: RT @kellygarber: exactly – relative RT @edutainmentm: #lrnchat Q2: metaphors done well help… meaning you must know your audience #sdle
09:04:25 pm cindyhugg: RT @kellygarber: exactly – relative RT @edutainmentm: #lrnchat Q2: metaphors done well help… meaning you must know your audience
09:04:28 pm minutebio: RT @jsuzcampos: Q2) Not all metaphors work. There are bad apples in every barrel. | At least 1 #lrnchat
09:04:29 pm LnDDave: RT @jsuzcampos: Q2) Not all metaphors work. There are bad apples in every barrel. #lrnchat
09:04:36 pm EdutainmentM: RT @JaneBozarth: Q2 In complex problems can block solution: defining conflict as ‘battleground’, for instance. #lrnchat
09:04:41 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @gerdriesen: “@jsuzcampos: Q1) Metaphors may get lost in translation between different cultures. #Lrnchat
09:04:44 pm larrydelaneyjr: @Dave_Ferguson @quinnovator True that. Or else on the ride over. #lrnchat
09:05:10 pm edCetraT: disagree.RT @gerdriesen: q1 Methaphors can help between language bridging ideas of people with different point of view & background #lrnchat
09:05:21 pm ITKnowConsult: #lrnchat marisa joining late via mobile. Slept the afternoon/early evening away. #ASTD2012 wore me out!
09:05:24 pm 2lead2day: @Quinnovator that was kind of the conclusion I was coming to as well🙂 #lrnchat
09:05:29 pm Dave_Ferguson: @jsuzcampos When was the last time you saw an apple barrel? #lrnchat
09:05:35 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) A metaphor may delay learning or allowing the learner to discover context. #lrnchat
09:06:20 pm TheAirton: Q2) can be used to cover up for something more difficult. Or in most cases have nothing to do with the origin. #lrnchat
09:06:24 pm tomspiglanin: “@jsuzcampos: Q2) Not all metaphors work. There are bad apples in every barrel. #lrnchat” sometimes people try too hard… Or not hard enough
09:06:34 pm ryantracey: The iBarrel? RT @Dave_Ferguson: @jsuzcampos When was the last time you saw an apple barrel? #lrnchat
09:06:35 pm larrydelaneyjr: What about saying that there is a government ‘think tank’. That would imply that they can think of solutions on their own. #lrnchat
09:06:41 pm kellygarber: Q2 – if used to insert an emotion that will heighten recall …the metaphor itself doesn’t have to fit perfect #lrnchat
09:06:44 pm minutebio: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) A metaphor may delay learning or allowing the learner to discover context. #lrnchat
09:07:03 pm Dave_Ferguson: Metaphor/analogy limits: most Americans when they think “Canadian” are not thinking “francophone.” #lrnchat
09:07:03 pm jsuzcampos: It’s a metaphor Dave. Don’t get bee in your bonnet. RT @Dave_Ferguson: When was the last time you saw an apple barrel? #lrnchat
09:07:22 pm jankenb2: #lrnchat Q2 An exp.of pwer of metaphor re-Learning proper form for skiing is like holding a basketball in your lap. Links ab w/concrete
09:07:27 pm larrydelaneyjr: #lrnchat then again… I might be out of a job.🙂
09:07:36 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @minutebio: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) A metaphor may delay learning or allowing the learner to discover context. #Lrnchat
09:08:08 pm britz: Q2) metaphors can be dangerous when they reinforce untruths after founding premise is dismissed #lrnchat
09:08:08 pm 2lead2day: @kellygarber @edutainmentm Yes! – cant imagine teaching w/out using self made metaphors from time 2 time 2 move abstract 2 concrete #lrnchat
09:08:16 pm lrnchat: Q3) When would you use metaphors in learning? Why? #lrnchat
09:08:23 pm vmc_teachers: RT @lrnchat: Q3) When would you use metaphors in learning? Why? #lrnchat
09:08:25 pm tomspiglanin: @ITKnowConsult uh, is “seeing you” on Twitter a metaphor? #lrnchat
09:08:26 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @kellygarber: Q2 – if used to insert an emotion that will heighten recall …the metaphor itself doesnt have to fit perfect #Lrnchat
09:08:32 pm RSLearning: RT @lrnchat: Q3) When would you use metaphors in learning? Why? #lrnchat
09:08:32 pm ITKnowConsult: “@lrnchat Q3) When would you use metaphors in learning? Why? #lrnchat”
09:08:41 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q3) When would you use metaphors in learning? Why? #lrnchat
09:08:42 pm jswann: #lrnchat metaphor is dialogic rather than critical reasoning. Applying crit thinking to a metaphor kills its insight
09:08:49 pm edCetraT: RT @lrnchat: Q3) When would you use metaphors in learning? Why? #lrnchat
09:08:56 pm Dave_Ferguson: – @jankenb2 @guywwallace wrote re learning to downhill ski: his waterski experience was essentially useless. #lrnchat
09:08:56 pm jankenb2: #lrnchat @JaneBozarth more sinisterly, hijack the discussion away from the critical aspects that don’t align with the norm. It’s sound bite
09:08:57 pm cindyhugg: RT @edCetraT: RT @lrnchat: Q3) When would you use metaphors in learning? Why? #lrnchat
09:09:00 pm chillcrys: RT @lrnchat: Q3) When would you use metaphors in learning? Why? #lrnchat
09:09:06 pm tomspiglanin: RT @lrnchat: Q3) When would you use metaphors in learning? Why? #lrnchat
09:09:27 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q3) When would you use metaphors in learning? Why? #lrnchat
09:09:42 pm vmc_teachers: Q3 I would try to use the “common language” the person uses when I want to teach something abstract. #lrnchat
09:09:51 pm tomspiglanin: Q3) a good metaphor leaves a mental picture of key concepts #lrnchat
09:09:56 pm Dave_Ferguson: @jswann I’d agree but caution: coming up with a metaphor doesn’t mean it HAS insight. Could just be a cliché. #lrnchat
09:10:02 pm vmc_teachers: RT @tomspiglanin: Q3) a good metaphor leaves a mental picture of key concepts #lrnchat
09:10:02 pm minutebio: Q3) 1st metaphor I may use in a course is to gain attention #Gagne #lrnchat
09:10:07 pm chris_saeger: Q3) use metaphor to intro topic “this is like.. something they already do or use..” #lrnchat
09:10:09 pm JaneBozarth: Q3. Does help me get my head around ideas, new techs. For me not info superhighway but tapestry
#lrnchat
09:10:19 pm RSLearning: Q3) When explaining something technical use a metaphor to “dumb” it down #lrnchat
09:10:35 pm jsuzcampos: Q3) I would use a metaphor during <instruction> to make something complex more accessible. #lrnchat
09:10:35 pm cindyhugg: Q3 #lrnchat I use metaphor as one way to simplify the complex. Sometimes a useful metaphor is all that’s needed
09:10:37 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q3) When would you use metaphors in learning? Why? #lrnchat
09:10:46 pm gerdriesen: q3 to connect new concepts with things learners are already familiar with #lrnchat
09:10:49 pm chillcrys: @lrnchat Q3)When you want learners to have a common starting point. Or to prompt conversation, much like what we’re doing now. #lrnchat
09:10:59 pm Quinnovator: q3) to help learners get their minds around a complex concept quickly (tho’ tuning might be required) #lrnchat
09:11:00 pm 2lead2day: Q3) Definitely to find a connection for students – moving abstract to more concrete – a familiar item to connect new learning tor #lrnchat
09:11:07 pm jswann: #lrnchat Q3 to broaden dialogue not deepen it, bring in other perspectives, with luck dig up hidden axioms
09:11:07 pm jankenb2: #lrnchat Q3 I use it to teach ESL cultural knowledge, in science to connect abstract w/concrete, in writing to express mood, mth w/narrative
09:11:09 pm JaneBozarth: Interesting. Q3 is about “learning” and people quickly shifted that to “teaching”. #lrnchat
09:11:20 pm jsuzcampos: Q3) I would use a metaphor in my own learning to create relationships between already known and newly known *stuff* #lrnchat
09:11:29 pm Quinnovator: RT @gerdriesen: q3 to connect new concepts with things learners are already familiar with #lrnchat
09:11:31 pm RSLearning: RT @jsuzcampos: Q3) I would use a metaphor in my own learning to create relationships between already known and newly known *stuff* #lrnchat
09:11:32 pm JaneBozarth: Working through complex problem: ‘flow’ metaphor is usually helpful for me when looking at process, for example #lrnchat #lrnchat
09:11:42 pm edCetraT: Q3) when you need to spice it up! draw attention to something you want ppl to relate to. #lrnchat
09:11:54 pm RSLearning: RT @edCetraT: Q3) when you need to spice it up! draw attention to something you want ppl to relate to. #lrnchat
09:11:56 pm LnDDave: RT @jsuzcampos: Q3) I would use a metaphor during <instruction> to make something complex more accessible. #lrnchat
09:11:56 pm JackMassa: #lrnchat q3 . Use visual metaphors to introduce concepts.
09:12:00 pm larrydelaneyjr: RT @Quinnovator: q3) to help learners get their minds around a complex concept quickly (tho’ tuning might be required) #lrnchat
09:12:05 pm britz: RT @jsuzcampos: Q3) I would use a metaphor in my own learning to create relationships between already known and newly known *stuff* #lrnchat
09:12:05 pm PivotLearning: Metaphors reveal the diversity of student’s symbolic representations for how they learn. #lrnchat
09:12:07 pm chillcrys: RT @minutebio Q3) 1st metaphor I may use in a course is to gain attention #Gagne #lrnchat
09:12:07 pm EdutainmentM: “@kellygarber: Q2 – if used to insert an emotion that will heighten recall …the metaphor itself doesn’t have to fit perfect #lrnchat” true
09:12:05 pm britz: RT @jsuzcampos: Q3) I would use a metaphor in my own learning to create relationships between already known and newly known *stuff* #lrnchat
09:12:05 pm PivotLearning: Metaphors reveal the diversity of student’s symbolic representations for how they learn. #lrnchat
09:12:07 pm chillcrys: RT @minutebio Q3) 1st metaphor I may use in a course is to gain attention #Gagne #lrnchat
09:12:07 pm EdutainmentM: “@kellygarber: Q2 – if used to insert an emotion that will heighten recall …the metaphor itself doesn’t have to fit perfect #lrnchat” true
09:12:12 pm cindyhugg: Thinking of our role as trainers? RT @JaneBozarth: Interesting. Q3 is about “learning” & people quickly shifted that to “teaching” #lrnchat
09:12:27 pm Quinnovator: q3) to communicate an idea to others and see if I’d got it right #Lrnchat
09:12:35 pm chillcrys: RT @JackMassa
#lrnchat q3 . Use visual metaphors to introduce concepts.
09:12:40 pm JackMassa: “@chris_saeger: Q3) use metaphor to intro topic “this is like.. something they already do or use..” #lrnchat” yes!
09:12:42 pm JaneBozarth: RT @RSLearning Q3) I would use a metaphor in my own learning to create relationships between already known and newly known *stuff* #lrnchat
09:12:42 pm ITKnowConsult: “@JaneBozarth Interesting. Q3 is about “learning” and people quickly shifted that to “teaching”. #lrnchat”<<u r right! Wow.
09:12:44 pm EdutainmentM: RT @lrnchat: Q3) When would you use metaphors in learning? Why? #lrnchat
09:12:46 pm JGoodTO: Wondering: do we always know what they already know to be able to choose the metaphor to create the relationships mentioned? #lrnchat
09:12:51 pm 2lead2day: @JaneBozarth as a learner, I might use it personally to make my own connection so I remember something or understand it better #lrnchat
09:12:54 pm JaneBozarth: @cindyhugg and not as learners. #lrnchat
09:12:59 pm JaneBozarth: Q3) Help me understand what others are thinking/feeling: is learning new tech a ‘journey’ or a ‘battle’ for them #speaksvolumes #lrnchat
09:13:05 pm gerdriesen: q3 to make implicit ideas more explicit #lrnchat
09:13:12 pm dawnjmahoney: Q3) as a learner, I wd use metaphors in my head to translate I to my “language”/set context #Lrnchat
09:13:18 pm LnDDave: RT @JaneBozarth: Interesting. Q3 is about “learning” and people quickly shifted that to “teaching”. #lrnchat
09:13:18 pm cindyhugg: Q3 #lrnchat A good story metaphor helps me remember things. I forget facts but remember stories
09:13:28 pm JaneBozarth: @jankenb2 agreed, yes, that happens #lrnchat
09:13:32 pm Quinnovator: q3) with learners, potentially solicit *their* metaphors as way to understand how *they’re* thinking about it #lrnchat
09:13:37 pm kellygarber: Q3 – use metaphor to help your audience view the topic from a different perspective. #lrnchat
09:13:43 pm JaneBozarth: RT @2lead2day as a learner, I might use it personally to make my own connection so I remember something or understand it better #lrnchat
09:13:51 pm Dave_Ferguson: @JGoodTO You’ve got to start someplace (for your own learned, or if trying to help others). #lrnchat
09:13:55 pm ryantracey: +1 RT @2lead2day as a learner, I might use it personally to make my own connection so I remember something or understand it better #lrnchat
09:13:58 pm cindyhugg: AgreeRT @Quinnovator: q3) with learners, potentially solicit *their* metaphors as way to understand how *they’re* thinking about it #lrnchat
09:14:03 pm kellygarber: RT @cindyhugg: Q3 #lrnchat A good story metaphor helps me remember things. I forget facts but remember stories #lrnchat
09:14:06 pm vmc_teachers: RT @kellygarber: Q3 – use metaphor to help your audience view the topic from a different perspective. #lrnchat
09:14:18 pm midquel: So for self-assessment? RT @PivotLearning: Metaphors reveal the diversity of student’s symbolic representations for how they learn. #lrnchat
09:14:25 pm Quinnovator: q3) use a metaphor and pursue implications to see if same holds true in what I’m learning about #lrnchat
09:14:28 pm tomspiglanin: RT @JaneBozarth: Working through complex problem: ‘flow’ metaphor is usually helpful for me when looking at process, for example #lrnchat
09:14:35 pm Dave_Ferguson: Problem/challenge for your own learning: choosing a helpful metaphor (even tentatively) w/o necess. much to go on.
#lrnchat
09:14:42 pm gerdriesen: “@Quinnovator: q3) to communicate an idea to others and see if I’d got it right #Lrnchat”
09:14:49 pm JaneBozarth: BTW for those of you w a cerebral bent, good lit on contemporary metaphor theory/embodied cognition. Check it out– #lrnchat
09:14:55 pm TheAirton: Q3) I use metaphors daily to show rules/requirements in real day 2 day use #lrnchat
09:15:19 pm tomspiglanin: @JaneBozarth I do this often at a non conscious level. Hadn’t realized #lrnchat
09:15:26 pm jankenb2: #lrnchat Have to duck out.😉 CUNxtwk Jenny, Ankara Turkey.
09:15:39 pm minutebio: Q3) I use metaphors when explaining tech processes to RNs e.g. Voicemail has a handshake with their email (modular msg) #lrnchat
09:15:42 pm gerdriesen: q3 metaphor can provide structure #lrnchat
09:15:54 pm ITKnowConsult: “@tomspiglanin: @JaneBozarth I do this often at a non conscious level. Hadn’t realized #lrnchat”<< me too!
09:15:54 pm EdutainmentM: #lrnchat #sdle Q3: use a metaphor when teaching a new sport; works great for me as a learner!
09:16:00 pm JaneBozarth: @tomspiglanin I try hard to keep it from turning to “#trainchat”… #lrnchat
09:16:01 pm PivotLearning: @midquel Metaphorical expressions are ‘hidden’ or ’embedded’ in language. #lrnchat
09:16:06 pm jswann: @Dave_Ferguson yet a cliche becomes a cliche because it originally had something to offer #lrnchat
09:16:09 pm RSLearning: RT @JaneBozarth: @tomspiglanin I try hard to keep it from turning to “#trainchat”… #lrnchat
09:16:14 pm PivotLearning: @midquel Research shows that everyday conversation makes use of at least four metaphors per minute. #lrnchat
09:16:14 pm LnDDave: Q3) by building a connection between two new concepts using a bridge between two known concepts. #lrnchat
09:16:15 pm audioswhite: Q3) contectualizing new technology, processes. building empathy/relating to coworkers, customers, citizens #lrnchat
09:16:17 pm JGoodTO: @Dave_Ferguson True. Was curious. My idea of ‘new’ & ‘complicated’ has been vastly different than others at times.
#lrnchat
09:16:19 pm JaneBozarth: @jankenb2 bye thanks for coming on your schedule! #lrnchat
09:16:35 pm kellygarber: Q3 use an intentionally bad(funny) metaphor to prompt audience to put the pieces together-and fix your metaphor in the process. #lrnchat
09:16:43 pm EdutainmentM: RT @kellygarber: RT @cindyhugg: Q3 #lrnchat A good story metaphor helps me remember things. I forget facts but remember stories #lrnchat
09:16:45 pm 2lead2day: @JaneBozarth think people quickly transferred 2 teaching because often metaphor develops out of attempt to communicate meaning #lrnchat
09:16:45 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @gerdriesen: q3 metaphor can provide structure #Lrnchat
09:16:54 pm LnDDave: RT @Quinnovator: q3) with learners, potentially solicit *their* metaphors as way to understand how *they’re* thinking about it #lrnchat
09:16:57 pm EdutainmentM: RT @kellygarber: Q3 – use metaphor to help your audience view the topic from a different perspective. #lrnchat
09:16:58 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @edCetraT: Q3) how about using metaphors to build on ..transition to next topic #Lrnchat
09:17:25 pm JGoodTO: @audioswhite Good point (empathy/relating) as others have mentioned the emotions connected to metaphors #lrnchat
09:17:33 pm cindyhugg: Curious abt source? RT @PivotLearning: @midquel Research shows everyday conversation makes use of at least 4 metaphors per minute. #lrnchat
09:17:36 pm PivotLearning: @midquel If you want to teach in a way that corresponds to the metaphors of a group of students = a highly flexible approach. #lrnchat
09:17:38 pm vmc_teachers: RT @Quinnovator: q3) with learners, potentially solicit *their* metaphors as way to understand how *they’re* thinking about it #lrnchat
09:18:02 pm ITKnowConsult: HT @cindyhugg @Quinnovator: q3) with learners, solicit *their* metaphors, understand how *they’re* thinking about it #lrnchat<gr8 idea!
09:18:10 pm chris_saeger: Q3) Images of Organization by Gareth Morgan helped me see my own thinking on organizations by using multiple org metaphors #lrnchat
09:18:14 pm PivotLearning: We generally use common and well understood experiences as the metaphorical basis for complex and abstract information. #lrnchat
09:18:14 pm timwilsononline: Q3) Could be a great a great way to capture learner attention if metaphor is used creatively? #lrnchat #lrnchat
09:18:24 pm 2lead2day: @PivotLearning yes! All language & communication is an attempt to convey meaning & when meaning is not translating,enter metaphor! #lrnchat
09:18:33 pm PivotLearning: There is a consistency and logic to the metaphors each of us uses. #lrnchat
09:18:37 pm vmc_teachers: RT @timwilsononline: Q3) Could be a great a great way to capture learner attention if metaphor is used creatively? #lrnchat #lrnchat
09:18:47 pm ExpertusONE: RT @JaneBozarth: Look I made y’all a Pinterest board on learning metaphors http://t.co/3DqCljzt #lrnchat
09:18:57 pm RSLearning: RT @minutebio: Q3) Been trying to “sell” twitter to coworkers & the “water cooler” metaphor seems to drive it home. #lrnchat
09:18:58 pm vmc_teachers: RT @PivotLearning: There is a consistency and logic to the metaphors each of us uses. #lrnchat
09:19:01 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @timwilsononline: Q3) Could be a great a great way to capture learner attention if metaphor is used creatively? #lrnchat #Lrnchat
09:19:02 pm JaneBozarth: @cindyhugg “Secret Life of Metaphors” says something like once every 25 words. #lrnchat
09:19:22 pm Dave_Ferguson: @2lead2day Convey meaning, or attach meaning onto something. #lrnchat
09:19:24 pm tomspiglanin: RT @JaneBozarth: @tomspiglanin I try hard to keep it from turning to “#trainchat”… #lrnchat
09:19:27 pm EdutainmentM: “RT @Quinnovator: q3) with learners, potentially solicit *their* metaphors as way to understand how *they’re* thinking about it #lrnchat”
09:19:50 pm JackMassa: “@PivotLearning: @midquel Research shows that everyday conversation makes use of at least four metaphors per minute. #lrnchat” source?
09:20:20 pm TheAirton: RT @minutebio: Q3) Been trying to “sell” twitter to coworkers & the “water cooler” metaphor seems to drive it home. #lrnchat
09:20:25 pm EdutainmentM: RT @minutebio: Q3) Been trying to “sell” twitter to coworkers & the “water cooler” metaphor seems to drive it home. #lrnchat
09:20:25 pm Dave_Ferguson: @PivotLearning But as Fred Hoyle said, “There is a coherent plan to the universe, though I don’t know what it’s a plan for.” #lrnchat
09:20:32 pm britz: beware of not only mixing metaphors but confusing them for analogies http://t.co/VcDiWAbW #lrnchat
09:20:45 pm JaneBozarth: RT @minutebio: Q3) Been trying to “sell” twitter to coworkers & the “water cooler” metaphor seems to drive it home. #lrnchat
09:20:52 pm timwilsononline: RT @Quinnovator: q3) with learners, potentially solicit *their* metaphors as way to understand how *they’re* thinking about it #lrnchat
09:20:58 pm lrnchat: Q4) What is the benefit of taking time to unpack a metaphor? #lrnchat
09:21:03 pm RSLearning: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What is the benefit of taking time to unpack a metaphor? #lrnchat
09:21:04 pm vmc_teachers: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What is the benefit of taking time to unpack a metaphor? #lrnchat
09:21:05 pm cindyhugg: thx! here’s link to book: http://t.co/VAFwv2p3 RT @JaneBozarth:”Secret Life of Metaphors” says something like once every 25 words. #lrnchat
09:21:18 pm JGoodTO: @Quinnovator Solicit learner’s metaphors = great. Working from their experience. Tying it to their lives. #lrnchat
09:21:18 pm tomspiglanin: Q3) class I was in today used “understanding pipe” as metaphor for agenda. Tied all the collaborative activities together. #lrnchat
09:21:24 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What is the benefit of taking time to unpack a metaphor? #lrnchat
09:21:27 pm edCetraT: RT @britz: beware of not only mixing metaphors but confusing them for analogies http://t.co/ivDCMpVH #lrnchat
09:21:30 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What is the benefit of taking time to unpack a metaphor? #lrnchat
09:21:39 pm Dave_Ferguson: @minutebio Interesting in that “water cooler” itself is almost entirely a notional metaphor. #lrnchat
09:21:43 pm tomspiglanin: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What is the benefit of taking time to unpack a metaphor? #lrnchat
09:21:49 pm cindyhugg: watercooler… to firehose🙂 RT @minutebio Q3) Been trying to “sell” twitter & the “water cooler” metaphor seems to drive it home. #lrnchat
09:21:50 pm edCetraT: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What is the benefit of taking time to unpack a metaphor? #lrnchat
09:21:59 pm kellygarber: metaphorically speaking? RT @lrnchat: Q4) What is the benefit of taking time to unpack a metaphor? #lrnchat
09:22:01 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What is the benefit of taking time to unpack a metaphor? #lrnchat
09:22:19 pm JGoodTO: @lrnchat For s/one like me, while ur unpacking & once unpacked, the visual image I have is strong & gives clarity & retention. #lrnchat
09:22:20 pm JaneBozarth: Those asking for sources on use of metaphor in speech: check linguistics. Lots there on ‘metaphor clusters’. #lrnchat
09:22:20 pm JaneBozarth: Those asking for sources on use of metaphor in speech: check linguistics. Lots there on ‘metaphor clusters’. #lrnchat
09:22:21 pm 2lead2day: @PivotLearning absolutley -there are steps we must take to move to higr lvls of thinking from concrete to abstract -metaphors help! #lrnchat
09:22:27 pm vmc_teachers: Q4 Depends why you’re studying it, but a creative way of bringing ideas together is potentially always interesting. #lrnchat
09:22:28 pm cindyhugg: RT @britz: beware of not only mixing metaphors but confusing them for analogies http://t.co/72R8mkTG #lrnchat
09:22:29 pm chillcrys: Havet to be mutually exclusive? RT @JaneBozarth @tomspiglanin I try hard to keep it from turning to “#trainchat”… #lrnchat
09:22:35 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat Q4) What is the benefit of taking time to unpack a metaphor? #lrnchat
09:22:40 pm cindyhugg: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What is the benefit of taking time to unpack a metaphor? #lrnchat
09:22:41 pm Quinnovator: @britz interesting issue: relation between analogies & metaphors. In my PhD days (er long ago), analogy was more ‘precise’ #lrnchat
09:22:54 pm ITKnowConsult: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What is the benefit of taking time to unpack a metaphor? #lrnchat
09:22:58 pm TheAirton: Q4) Is not the point of using metaphor so that the unpacking is done? #lrnchat
09:23:07 pm Quinnovator: q4) unpacking metaphor helps explore conceptual relationships, expose where mapping ends #lrnchat
09:23:23 pm JaneBozarth: Really meaningful grad school activity (12 years ago) required unpacking metaphor of how I saw grad experience. #lrnchat
09:23:24 pm vmc_teachers: RT @Quinnovator: q4) unpacking metaphor helps explore conceptual relationships, expose where mapping ends #lrnchat
09:23:29 pm gerdriesen: q4 with unpakking the metaphor the learning starts, exploring details and match of ideas is the result and fun #Lrnchat
09:23:43 pm JaneBozarth: @TheAirton oh heavens no. The metaphor is only the beginning. #lrnchat
09:24:18 pm JaneBozarth: Q4 getting at root, finding hidden beliefs. Education “factory”. Or “battlefield”? #lrnchat
09:24:18 pm britz: @Quinnovator agreed. I see many here making “comparison” references that hint of analogies #lrnchat
09:24:20 pm JGoodTO: @TheAirton Hmm. Guess like me, ur thinking that the metaphor ‘comes at the end’ to tie it all together? #lrnchat
09:24:26 pm tomspiglanin: @chillcrys @janebozarth train push, learn pull; sure I can learn from training but it’s my choice to do so. #lrnchat
09:24:33 pm vmc_teachers: RT @JaneBozarth: Q4 getting at root, finding hidden beliefs. Education “factory”. Or “battlefield”? #lrnchat
09:24:33 pm JaneBozarth: RT @gerdriesen: q4 with unpacking the metaphor the learning starts, exploring details and match of ideas is the result and fun #lrnchat
09:24:37 pm EdutainmentM: RT @kellygarber: metaphorically speaking? RT @lrnchat: Q4) What is the benefit of taking time to unpack a metaphor? #lrnchat
09:24:45 pm kellygarber: Q4 – benefit? people get it, they relate, they remember, they repeat, they learn …or (insert objective here) happens. #lrnchat
09:24:45 pm 2lead2day: Q4) To move the learner through levls of thinking from concrete 2 abstract, but also ensure that full meaning is clear and attained #lrnchat
09:24:53 pm JGoodTO: @JaneBozarth The beginning? Go on… #lrnchat
09:24:56 pm vmc_teachers: @JaneBozarth What would you see as “factory” or “battlefield” in education? #lrnchat
09:25:06 pm JackMassa: #lrnchat Q 4! Great ?. Could lead to much deeper understanding; exposing faulty conclusions; meta understanding of the conversation.
09:25:06 pm Quinnovator: @britz yes, and I’m biased (PhD topic *was* analogical reasoning!🙂 #lrnchat
09:25:11 pm gerdriesen: Nice, in Netherlands coffe corner “@Dave_Ferguson: @minutebio Interesting “water cooler” itself is almost a notional metaphor #lrnchat”
09:25:17 pm chris_saeger: Q4) @janebozarth ‘s board could be a session unto itself. explore each picture for what it reveal and what it hides. #lrnchat
09:25:21 pm PivotLearning: What’s the point of unpacking Shakespeare! #lrnchat
09:25:27 pm JaneBozarth: @vmc_teachers not in, as. #lrnchat
09:25:35 pm ryantracey: Unpacking a metaphor is just the tip of the iceberg. #lrnchat
09:25:53 pm cindyhugg: LOL RT @ryantracey: Unpacking a metaphor is just the tip of the iceberg. #lrnchat
09:26:15 pm vmc_teachers: @JaneBozarth Sure, but how would you relate to that in the context of education? #lrnchat
09:26:16 pm JaneBozarth: @PivotLearning To keep college professors employed. #lrnchat
09:26:19 pm jsuzcampos: Q4) Confirm understanding, stretch thinking, identify additional patterns, challenge assumptions. #lrnchat
09:26:21 pm Dave_Ferguson: @gerdriesen Exactly. Cross-country metaphor is tough. US has some advantage b/c of wide spread of pop culture… #lrnchat
09:26:28 pm Quinnovator: q4) unpacking metaphor is like unpacking luggage, that’s how you find what you need #lrnchat
09:26:35 pm JaneBozarth: tweet of the night: RT @ryantracey: Unpacking a metaphor is just the tip of the iceberg. #lrnchat
09:26:38 pm Quinnovator: RT @ryantracey: Unpacking a metaphor is just the tip of the iceberg. #lrnchat < +1
09:26:39 pm LiamJBayerSr: Language is evolutionary… To understand metaphor you need to evolve. #lrnchat
09:26:46 pm vmc_teachers: RT @LiamJBayerSr: Language is evolutionary… To understand metaphor you need to evolve. #lrnchat
09:26:52 pm tomspiglanin: Q4) unpacking builds deeper understanding and retention of key concepts eapecially relationships #lrnchat
09:26:54 pm edCetraT: RT @Quinnovator: q4) unpacking metaphor is like unpacking luggage, thats how you find what you need #lrnchat
09:26:57 pm RSLearning: RT @LiamJBayerSr: Language is evolutionary… To understand metaphor you need to evolve. #lrnchat
09:27:02 pm JackMassa: RT @Quinnovator: q4) unpacking metaphor is like unpacking luggage, that’s how you find what you need #lrnchat
09:27:04 pm chris_saeger: RT @ryantracey: Unpacking a metaphor is just the tip of the iceberg. <see the pinterest is working its dark magic already #lrnchat
09:27:04 pm RSLearning: RT @edCetraT: RT @Quinnovator: q4) unpacking metaphor is like unpacking luggage, thats how you find what you need #lrnchat
09:27:10 pm minutebio: @gerdriesen Coffee corner (or machine) would work here too. #lrnchat
09:27:22 pm JaneBozarth: @chris_saeger thank you Chris. I am up for additions, btw. Images are metaphors, too. #lrnchat
09:27:28 pm kloomis10: Use metaphors to help learners connect past experiences with content #lrnchat
09:27:32 pm Dave_Ferguson: @gerdriesen Smaller countries fight US stereotype (windmills, clogs) or ignorance (Latvia, Latvia, where’s that?). #lrnchat
09:27:33 pm cindyhugg: and hope you included the imp stuff RT @Quinnovator: q4) unpacking metaphor is like unpacking luggage, thats how U find what U need #lrnchat
09:28:02 pm audioswhite: Bazinga! RT @ryantracey Unpacking a metaphor is just the tip of the iceberg. #lrnchat
09:28:07 pm Dave_Ferguson: Of course, when unpacking metaphors, some people have a lot of carry-on baggage. #lrnchat
09:28:19 pm Quinnovator: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Of course, when unpacking metaphors, some people have a lot of carry-on baggage. #lrnchat
09:28:27 pm ITKnowConsult: @JaneBozarth: tweet of the night: RT @ryantracey: Unpacking a metaphor is just the tip of the iceberg. #lrnchat<< love it!!
09:28:40 pm JGoodTO: @minutebio Just had a dbl shot capp & Portuguese egg tart delivered to my table. All is well : ) #lrnchat
09:28:45 pm LiamJBayerSr: @janebozarth @PivotLearning I don’t remember which was easier – translating Latin or Shakespeare! #lrnchat
09:28:51 pm RSLearning: RT @JGoodTO: @minutebio Just had a dbl shot capp & Portuguese egg tart delivered to my table. All is well : ) #lrnchat
09:28:54 pm JaneBozarth: @vmc_teachers ? References to education as factory are a dime a dozen. #lrnchat
09:28:55 pm gerdriesen: Good! “@jsuzcampos: Q4) Confirm understanding, stretch thinking, identify additional patterns, challenge assumptions. #lrnchat”
09:29:09 pm kellygarber: bravo! RT @ryantracey: Unpacking a metaphor is just the tip of the iceberg. #lrnchat
09:29:16 pm TheAirton: RT @Quinnovator: metaphor may create new paths/targets and move ‘range’ beyond reach #lrnchat
09:29:20 pm ryantracey: :0P #lrnchat
09:29:26 pm kelly_smith01: Q4) Unpacking should give learners a chance to place everything in context or/and create new application out of metaphor. #lrnchat
09:29:29 pm chris_saeger: MT @JaneBozarth: …. Images are metaphors, too. <but wait metaphors are images..🙂 #lrnchat
09:29:57 pm JaneBozarth: Q4.1: Someone has just asked me how I would compare education to a factory. Anyone? Bueller? #lrnchat
09:30:42 pm 2lead2day: Q4) unpacking a metaphor as a class or group can give you an insider view of the world, perspective or thinking of others #lrnchat
09:30:47 pm cindyhugg: Wow… how much time do we have? RT @JaneBozarth: Q4.1: Someone has just asked me how I would compare education to a factory. #lrnchat
09:31:04 pm chillcrys: Doh! Must leave #lrnchat for the night already. Thanks for making me think! Hope to join again soon!
09:31:13 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth something that the revolution ought to blow up? #lrnchat
09:31:13 pm JaneBozarth: @cindyhugg srsly. #lrnchat
09:31:18 pm kellygarber: I think it could RT @JGoodTO: @TheAirton Hmm. Guess like me, ur thinking that the metaphor comes at the end to tie it all together? #lrnchat
09:31:21 pm ryantracey: @JaneBozarth I think “Beuller” is one of those non inter-generational metaphors #lrnchat
09:31:33 pm ITKnowConsult: @JaneBozarth would say can’t bc education needs more individualization #lrnchat
09:31:40 pm JGoodTO: @JaneBozarth Factory? Manager. Assembly line that includes metaphors. End product that must ‘go out the door’ & function… #lrnchat
09:31:43 pm JaneBozarth: @chillcrys bye– did you have fun? Ain’t lrnchat a riot? #lrnchat
09:31:55 pm TheAirton: Preemptive Qwrap) (out early) night all. Another great #lrnchat great week to all.
09:32:07 pm kellygarber: scrap in, mercedes out RT @JaneBozarth: Q4.1: Someone has just asked me how I would compare education to a factory. #lrnchat
09:32:08 pm gerdriesen: Nice @Dave_Ferguson: pro vokes the question are stereotypes also metaphors? #lrnchat
09:32:11 pm RSLearning: @JaneBozarth Q4.1 Education -> How to do. Factory -> Do it. #lrnchat
09:32:20 pm chris_saeger: Q4) sort of, What about the metaphor “reptilian brain” how did that triune brain based stuff shape our thinking about learning? #lrnchat
09:32:31 pm kelly_smith01: RT @ryantracey: Unpacking a metaphor is just the tip of the iceberg. #lrnchat < +1
09:32:32 pm cindyhugg: reference to Beuller immediately perked up my ears… @ryantracey @JaneBozarth “Beuller” is a non inter-generational metaphors #lrnchat
09:32:45 pm 2lead2day: q4) from a teachers perspective, we should encourage unpacking of metaphors to build connections,perspective and divergent thinking #lrnchat
09:33:02 pm JaneBozarth: @theairton here are some references to unpacking metaphors: https://t.co/wJlaTHhT #lrnchat
09:33:15 pm EdutainmentM: RT @JaneBozarth: tweet of the night: RT @ryantracey: Unpacking a metaphor is just the tip of the iceberg. #lrnchat
09:33:25 pm gerdriesen: And learn items became smelly! “@Quinnovator: q4) unpacking metaphor is like unpacking luggage, that’s how you find what you need #lrnchat”
09:33:28 pm JaneBozarth: @KrisSchaeffer we’re talking metaphors in #lrnchat. i didn’t say it was.
09:33:30 pm Dave_Ferguson: @gerdriesen Good Q. Me, I say generalization is useful (loose analogy). Stereotype is not (forces into mold). #lrnchat
09:33:49 pm cammybean: Hi all. I’m just joining and the air here is thick with deep thoughts. #lrnchat
09:33:51 pm kelly_smith01: Twitter is as slow as the continental drift tonight. #lrnchat
09:34:08 pm AlisonSeaman: RT @JaneBozarth: MANY dangerous metaphors in L&D esp about learning as ‘acquisition’, learner as vessel, knowledge as property #lrnchat
09:34:21 pm tomspiglanin: @JaneBozarth what part of education? The “system”? #lrnchat
09:34:37 pm cammybean: I assume we’re talking about cigars tonight, right? #lrnchat
09:34:37 pm britz: @JaneBozarth Factory? Easy. students are products, learning systematized, strict schedules, oversight by “managers of learning” #lrnchat
09:34:38 pm Dave_Ferguson: @cammybean Simmer some cinnamon sticks and whole cloves in water; that’ll help w/ the stench of deep thinkin’. #lrnchat
09:34:45 pm Quinnovator: RT @cammybean: Hi all. I’m just joining and the air here is thick with deep thoughts. #lrnchat < or mud
09:34:45 pm Quinnovator: RT @cammybean: Hi all. I’m just joining and the air here is thick with deep thoughts. #lrnchat < or mud
09:34:51 pm PivotLearning: @2lead2day What resources are you using to ignite learning metaphors? #lrnchat
09:35:21 pm vmc_teachers: RT @PivotLearning: @2lead2day What resources are you using to ignite learning metaphors? #lrnchat
09:35:22 pm cammybean: @Dave_Ferguson I’ll go light some patchoulie incense and say ohm… #lrnchat
09:35:23 pm JaneBozarth: @cindyhugg @ryantracey heh. and Bueller’s teacher is definitive figure of education as factory! #lrnchat
09:35:50 pm JaneBozarth: @TheAirton could you throw my throwing stars back? #lrnchat
09:35:51 pm Quinnovator: RT @cammybean: @Dave_Ferguson I’ll go light some patchoulie incense and say ohm… #lrnchat < I’ll resist that last bit
09:35:54 pm JGoodTO: @PivotLearning I’d like to know, too. Resources… #lrnchat
09:36:02 pm tomspiglanin: RT @JaneBozarth: @theairton here are some references to unpacking metaphors: https://t.co/wJlaTHhT #lrnchat
09:36:20 pm JaneBozarth: Q4 unpacking = where do we agree? Where not? Why? #lrnchat
09:36:41 pm midquel: RT @2lead2day: q4)teachers perspective: encourage unpacking metaphors to build connections,perspective & divergent thinking #lrnchat
09:36:42 pm lrnchat: Q5 Remember a time that a metaphor made an impact on your learning? Why/how?/impact? #lrnchat
09:36:50 pm RSLearning: RT @lrnchat: Q5 Remember a time that a metaphor made an impact on your learning? Why/how?/impact? #lrnchat
09:36:51 pm vmc_teachers: RT @lrnchat: Q5 Remember a time that a metaphor made an impact on your learning? Why/how?/impact? #lrnchat
09:36:51 pm tomspiglanin: LOL “@cammybean: I assume we’re talking about cigars tonight, right? #lrnchat”
09:36:58 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q5 Remember a time that a metaphor made an impact on your learning? Why/how?/impact? #lrnchat
09:37:22 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q5 Remember a time that a metaphor made an impact on your learning? Why/how?/impact? #lrnchat
09:37:23 pm Quinnovator: q5) when colleague described homework as ‘punishment’ #lrnchat
09:37:37 pm kelly_smith01: The use of metaphors are not over until we say they are over. #lrnchat
09:37:41 pm cindyhugg: ferris’ day of experience was much more valuable, & think of cameron’s changed behavior by end of day @JaneBozarth @ryantracey #lrnchat
09:37:43 pm tomspiglanin: RT @lrnchat: Q5 Remember a time that a metaphor made an impact on your learning? Why/how?/impact? #lrnchat
09:37:43 pm ITKnowConsult: RT @lrnchat: Q5 Remember a time that a metaphor made an impact on your learning? Why/how?/impact? #lrnchat
09:37:48 pm gerdriesen: Good thinking “@Dave_Ferguson: Me, I say generalization is useful (loose analogy). Stereotype is not (forces into mold). #lrnchat”
09:38:08 pm Dave_Ferguson: Q5: (1 of 2) Trying to learn company’s sales process (to help w/ sales training); unhappy w/ “day in the life” metaphor… #lrnchat
09:38:10 pm nylareed: Q4.1 Both require innovation and constant reflection/improvement so they don’t become outdated. #lrnchat
09:38:14 pm edCetraT: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q5 Remember a time that a metaphor made an impact on your learning? Why/how?/impact? #lrnchat
09:38:20 pm chris_saeger: MT @Dave_Ferguson: Simmer some cinnamon sticks and whole cloves in water; <-I say incense and pepermint #lrnchat
09:38:24 pm cindyhugg: RT @lrnchat: Q5 Remember a time that a metaphor made an impact on your learning? Why/how?/impact? #lrnchat
09:38:24 pm cammybean: Ooh — just saw @janebozarth ‘s Learning/Teaching Metaphors page: http://t.co/21rhCI6h #lrnchat
09:38:25 pm PivotLearning: @2lead2day Literature seems to lend to metaphors… What authors and books do you use to offer examples of metaphor? #lrnchat
09:38:34 pm vmc_teachers: Q5 All the time. I make links, for instance, between my learning in music, and my learning in fencing. #lrnchat
09:38:49 pm JaneBozarth: Fave metaphor re leadership/corporate culture: “If you behave like a disease, people develop an immune system” ~ Kevin Marks #lrnchat
09:38:57 pm Dave_Ferguson: Q5 (2 of 2): central focus of salesperson not day, but deal — so, a DEAL in the life. Flow in stages, not elapsed time. #lrnchat
09:39:01 pm TheAirton: Trade you nunchucks @JaneBozarth #lrnchat
09:39:14 pm JaneBozarth: @cammybean it’s like art, ain’t it? I was inspired earlier today. #lrnchat
09:39:18 pm chris_saeger: RT @cammybean: Ooh — just saw @janebozarth s Learning/Teaching Metaphors page: http://t.co/BBPQDL9r #lrnchat
09:39:30 pm Quinnovator: q5) @jonhusband “shifting from hierarchy to wirearchy” was a compelling metaphor #lrnchat
09:39:32 pm 2lead2day: @PivotLearning ex. – while tchng divergentplates, began conv. about R Frost poem -Rd not taken -made both concepts clearer&relevant #lrnchat
09:39:34 pm ITKnowConsult: @cammybean: Ooh — just saw @janebozarth ‘s Learning/Teaching Metaphors page: http://t.co/eXxq7PF4 #lrnchat<< wow. Favorited 4 future!
09:39:44 pm RSLearning: RT @chris_saeger: RT @cammybean: Ooh — just saw @janebozarth s Learning/Teaching Metaphors page: http://t.co/BBPQDL9r #lrnchat
09:39:46 pm minutebio: Q5) When overwhelmed I think of “How do u eat an elephant?” #lrnchat
09:40:01 pm JaneBozarth: @TheAirton k. I’d just get those tangled in my hair anyway. #lrnchat
09:40:12 pm tomspiglanin: @lrnchat q5) Film “life as a house ” – lesson: Life is short, live it #lrnchat
09:40:23 pm britz: I gotta run lrnchat-ers ….Time flies and my better half is home. …no really, unintended metaphors…until next time🙂 #lrnchat
09:40:32 pm cammybean: @JaneBozarth LOVE it. #lrnchat
09:40:33 pm ryantracey: RT @ITKnowConsult: @cammybean: Ooh — just saw @janebozarth s Learning/Teaching Metaphors page: http://t.co/fNUyDG9Q #lrnchat
09:40:37 pm PivotLearning: @2lead2day Two roads diverged in a yellow wood, and knowing I could not travel both… Frost was genius! #lrnchat
09:40:44 pm JaneBozarth: @2lead2day yes I thought of that one, too. Also: “The Cambridge women live in furnished souls” ~ e.e. cummings) #lrnchat
09:40:54 pm audioswhite: Q5) Learning music is ripe with metaphors – often they are included in the scores or descriptions. many memorable ones… #lrnchat
09:41:13 pm kelly_smith01: I needed a metaphor when learning how to diagram a sentence. #lrnchat
09:41:13 pm JaneBozarth: RT @tomspiglanin q5) Film “life as a house ” – lesson: Life is short, live it #lrnchat
09:41:16 pm cindyhugg: My favorite quote: RT @PivotLearning: @2lead2day Two roads diverged in a yellow wood, and knowing I could not travel both… #lrnchat
09:41:33 pm cammybean: I’m just going to read the wikipedia page about metaphor. Fascinating stuff. http://t.co/kw0iSNdA #lrnchat
09:41:36 pm JaneBozarth: I love #lrnchats like this one… #lrnchat
09:41:46 pm tomspiglanin: LOVE RT @JaneBozarth: leadership/corporate culture: “If you behave like a disease, people develop an immune system” ~ Kevin Marks #lrnchat
09:41:59 pm LiamJBayerSr: We had to memorize Frost’s “Two roads diverged in a yellow wood…” in 7th grade. For some reason, I always go back to that. #lrnchat
09:42:16 pm EdutainmentM: “@Dave_Ferguson: Q5: unhappy w/ “day in the life” metaphor… #lrnchat” – get the “deal”, but people connect with “what I do daily”
09:42:16 pm JaneBozarth: Q5: Idea of firewall: Like a 2 lane road with traffic in, traffic out. Helped me understand, helped me get what I needed from IT! #lrnchat
09:42:19 pm ITKnowConsult: RT @cammybean: I’m just going to read the wikipedia page about metaphor. Fascinating stuff. http://t.co/kw0iSNdA #lrnchat
09:42:28 pm cammybean: I think we teacherly types use a lot of therapeutic metaphor in our storytelling: http://t.co/3uOFWrH8 #lrnchat
09:42:48 pm LnDDave: RT @cammybean: I’m just going to read the wikipedia page about metaphor. Fascinating stuff. http://t.co/kw0iSNdA #lrnchat
09:43:09 pm chris_saeger: Rt @minutebio Q5) When overwhelmed I think of “How do u eat an elephant? <-I once shot an elephant in my pajamas… via @Groucho #lrnchat
09:43:20 pm Dave_Ferguson: @EdutainmentM Yes! So “day in life” is a good example of an often-lazy, rarely-helpful metaphor for jobs not day-centered. #lrnchat
09:43:24 pm Quinnovator: q5) life is not a rehearsal; seize the day; stop and smell the roses; … #lrnchat
09:43:28 pm tomspiglanin: Q5) Learning is everywhere. @JaneBozarth mentioned #stickindirtchat once and I understood what a social medium can be. #lrnchat
09:43:32 pm cammybean: Aesop’s Fables….who didn’t learn from those metaphors? #lrnchat
09:43:38 pm ITKnowConsult: HT @JaneBozarth Q5: Idea of firewall: Like a 2 lane road with traffic in, traffic out. #lrnchat<<ooh very helpful!
09:43:41 pm JaneBozarth: @chris_saeger what was he doing in your pajamas? #lrnchat
09:43:47 pm EdutainmentM: “@minutebio: Q5) When overwhelmed I think of “How do u eat an elephant?” #lrnchat” – love that one too!
09:43:49 pm cindyhugg: Good one =>RT @cammybean: Aesop’s Fables….who didn’t learn from those metaphors? #lrnchat
09:43:49 pm kelly_smith01: Great #lrnchat tonight. My Twitter stream is slow.
09:43:53 pm gerdriesen: 5 getting results in org’s like building termite/ant towers. struggling at the bottom but with small blocks getting huge results #lrnchat
09:43:56 pm JGoodTO: Gotta get back to cat-sitting. Enjoyed my 1st chat w/ everyone! Tks & c u again! Keep learning. Keep loving. #lrnchat
09:43:57 pm terakristen: @lrnchat When learning markup languages: HTML is the structure of the house, CSS is the decor inside #lrnchat
09:44:08 pm minutebio: @chris_saeger How he got in there I don’t know🙂 #lrnchat
09:44:32 pm chris_saeger: RT @JaneBozarth: @chris_saeger what was he doing in your pajamas? <i’ll never know #lrnchat
09:44:38 pm 2lead2day: @JaneBozarth oh dear!It appears we are a bunch of english/lit. nerds who could quickly digress N2 a sea of lit. based metaphors🙂 #lrnchat
09:44:59 pm ITKnowConsult: RT @cammybean: Aesop’s Fables….who didn’t learn from those metaphors? #lrnchat<< definitely!!
09:45:03 pm audioswhite: This joint is jumping #lrnchat
09:45:20 pm JaneBozarth: @2lead2day I could. All day long. #lrnchat
09:45:22 pm chris_saeger: RT @terakristen: @lrnchat When learning markup languages: HTML is the structure of the house, CSS is the decor inside #lrnchat
09:45:40 pm LiamJBayerSr: Chaos is a friend of mine. – Bob Dylan #lrnchat
09:45:49 pm Carl_Eidson: @JaneBozarth Jane, is there a link where I can learn the days/times/and protocol for participating in #lrnchat?
09:45:56 pm edCetraT: loved it! perfect metaphor..builds on experience. RT @tomspiglanin q5) Film “life as a house” lesson:Life is short,live it #lrnchat #lrnchat
09:46:02 pm JackMassa: #lrnchat q5) Information Mapping, when I realized THAT was a metaphor!
09:46:13 pm JaneBozarth: @tomspiglanin🙂 #lrnchat
09:46:25 pm ryantracey: @terakristen Mine was: HTML is the skeleton, JavaScript is the muscle. #lrnchat
09:46:34 pm JaneBozarth: @JackMassa ha! #lrnchat
09:46:41 pm JaneBozarth: @Carl_Eidson http://t.co/iwQ3zIbY #lrnchat
09:47:02 pm JaneBozarth: Good RT @ryantracey: @terakristen Mine was: HTML is the skeleton, JavaScript is the muscle. #lrnchat
09:47:04 pm PivotLearning: Our stories carry forward our metaphors that carry so much meaning and so many lessons to future generations. #lrnchat
09:47:11 pm 2lead2day: You can teach student so many valueable&engaing lessons abt great lit. thru aesops fbls! Favorite unofficalEOG test prep material! #lrnchat
09:47:15 pm vmc_teachers: RT @PivotLearning: Our stories carry forward our metaphors that carry so much meaning and so many lessons to future generations. #lrnchat
09:47:52 pm Quinnovator: @Carl_Eidson http://t.co/NizQor4g #lrnchat
09:47:55 pm JaneBozarth: While I don’t much like “information superhighway”, I do think “world wide web” is good… #lrnchat
09:48:35 pm PivotLearning: @2lead2day You should Edgar Allen Poe’s “The Raven” – Great imagery here as well. #lrnchat
09:48:46 pm Quinnovator: @kelly_smith01 seems like a slow communication channel, though metaphor ought to make the semaphore more efficient #lrnchat
09:49:02 pm tomspiglanin: Nice! As is mind or knowledge mapping RT @JackMassa: #lrnchat q5) Information Mapping, when I realized THAT was a metaphor!
09:49:03 pm cindyhugg: metaphors have jumped the shark when they become pop songs (“life is a highway…”) #lrnchat
09:49:34 pm JackMassa: #lrnchat @JaneBozarth , My problem with superhighway is, I always think of crashes.
09:49:36 pm EdutainmentM: “@JaneBozarth: While I don’t much like “information superhighway”, I do think “world wide web” is good… #lrnchat” me too
09:49:41 pm 2lead2day: @JaneBozarth I do too… it has definitely entangled all of us! #lrnchat
09:49:45 pm Quinnovator: Q5) what’s a meta for, anyway? #lrnchat
09:49:55 pm cindyhugg: tee hee … RT @Quinnovator: Q5) what’s a meta for, anyway? #lrnchat
09:50:10 pm nylareed: Q5) School House Rock’s Great American Melting Pot. I still remember the words. Metaphor + Music = Yay! #lrnchat
09:50:13 pm cammybean: Propaganda and political rhetoric are often rife with metaphor… #lrnchat
09:50:14 pm ITKnowConsult: Why cant i retrieve tweets at this time?? Argh! Want to participate in #lrnchat!
09:50:14 pm gerdriesen: q5 speeches are like babies: easy to concieve but hard to deliver. Chuchill #lrnchat
09:50:16 pm JaneBozarth: @cindyhugg guilty feet have got no rhythm. #lrnchat
09:50:25 pm lrnchat: Ok it’s about that time… QWrap) Please reintroduce yourself: who, what, interests, shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
09:50:32 pm vmc_teachers: RT @lrnchat: Ok it’s about that time… QWrap) Please reintroduce yourself: who, what, interests, shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
09:50:32 pm RSLearning: RT @lrnchat: Ok it’s about that time… QWrap) Please reintroduce yourself: who, what, interests, shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
09:50:40 pm TeachTechGirl: @ryantracey @terakristen This reminds me of my favorite geeky valentine: “You are the CSS to my HTML” #lrnchat
09:51:05 pm edCetraT: RT @JaneBozarth While I don’t much like “information superhighway”,I do think “world wide web” is good #lrnchat>superhero saves day #lrnchat
09:51:07 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: it’s about that time… QWrap) Please reintroduce yourself: who, what, interests, shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat > already?
09:51:16 pm cammybean: Entrenched metaphors become dogma/ideology…
#lrnchat
09:51:19 pm edCetraT: RT @lrnchat: Ok its about that time… QWrap) Please reintroduce yourself: who, what, interests, shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
09:51:27 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Ok its about that time… QWrap) Please reintroduce yourself: who, what, interests, shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
09:51:27 pm gerdriesen: q5 A hippie is domeone who walks like Tarzan, has hair like Jane and smells like Cheeta. Ronald Reagan #lrnchat
09:51:29 pm msbolton1: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Do metaphors always help, or can they hinder, understanding? #lrnchat
09:51:31 pm Quinnovator: qwrap) thanks to new and returning participants for another stimulation #lrnchat
09:51:41 pm cindyhugg: QWrap) Please reintroduce yourself: who, what, interests, shameless plugs welcome #lrnchat
09:51:57 pm tomspiglanin: @ITKnowConsult hate that! If desktop, multiple windows helps – tweetchat, hootsuite, twitter. #lrnchat
09:52:09 pm JaneBozarth: @cammybean did you just make that up? My dogma’s asleep by my feet, btw. #lrnchat
09:52:11 pm ryantracey: Qwrap) Would love lrnchatters’ contributions to: “What exactly does an E-Learning Manager do?” http://t.co/z5OH8KWd #elearning #lrnchat
09:52:22 pm vmc_teachers: Qwrap. @__vm from Montréal, Québec! Tweeting for Virtual Museum of Canada, teacher’s centre! Thanks for another inspiring #lrnchat !
09:52:54 pm EdutainmentM: #lrnchat Qwrap: Cheryl Lasse, hopelessly devoted to self-directed learning and the engine that powers employee-driven curriculum
09:52:59 pm JaneBozarth: QWrap: Jane, Raleigh NC, author “Social Media for Trainers” and more, gubmint worker, appearing soon at a conference near you. #lrnchat
09:53:02 pm lrnchat: AND ONE LAST QUESTION: QWrap2) What did you learn tonight? #lrnchat
09:53:09 pm LiamJBayerSr: Thanks for the great #lrnchat! Looking forward to continuous dialogue (even metaphorical) about revitalizing education.
09:53:09 pm PivotLearning: Thanks for the great #lrnchat! Looking forward to continuous dialogue (even metaphorical) about revitalizing education.
09:53:10 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, learning architect, free webinar here: http://t.co/1Bjwm8Kq, hope to see you at Innovations in eLearning or mLearnCon #Lrnchat
09:53:17 pm RSLearning: Ricardo Santos, eLearning Developer/Consultant. Mississauga, Ontario, Canada. rslearningservices.ca @rslearning #lrnchat
09:53:19 pm cammybean: @gerdriesen “speeches are like babies”… that’s a simile not a metaphor… #lrnchat
09:53:28 pm JackMassa: #lrnchat Great experience as first timer. Thanks all. I am an elearning freelancer based in ATL.
09:53:32 pm edCetraT: Qwrap) it’s a wrap. thanks folks..nancy safar checking out.. see you all at #mlearncon #lrnchat
09:53:33 pm chris_saeger: Qwrap) Good night all and thanks! For a great movie about metaphor find Il Postino http://t.co/47LrIEBi #lrnchat
09:53:44 pm kelly_smith01: Outside of a dog a book is a man’s best friend inside a dog it is to dark to read. #lrnchat
09:53:51 pm cammybean: @JaneBozarth I guess I sort of did. I was reading the wikipedia article on metaphor…good stuff. #lrnchat
09:54:01 pm RSLearning: First time joining #lrnchat Overwhelming experience, but fun.
09:54:10 pm JaneBozarth: I’m the one who wanted to do ‘metaphors’ tonight. Thanks all for indulging me… Have a good week! #lrnchat
09:54:12 pm tomspiglanin: Qwrap) Tom, recovering rocket scientist in L.A., check my workplace learning blog thoughts http://t.co/riiFSCgS #lrnchat
09:54:20 pm cindyhugg: Qwrap) #lrnchat Cindy Huggett, author of Virtual Training Basics, on a mission to help trainers deliver online WELL
09:54:36 pm LiamJBayerSr: We learned that “All our words are but crumbs that fall down from the feast of the mind.” – Khalil Gibran #lrnchat
09:54:36 pm PivotLearning: We learned that “All our words are but crumbs that fall down from the feast of the mind.” – Khalil Gibran #lrnchat
09:54:41 pm egmathews: RT @Quinnovator: q1) our brains are wired to detect patterns and similarities, metaphors are natural resonances #lrnchat
09:54:54 pm kelly_smith01: @Wrap2) Something about Java – will spend tomorrow finding context and application. #lrnchat
09:54:59 pm JaneBozarth: @RSLearning you ready for the quiz now? #lrnchat
09:55:11 pm tomspiglanin: See ya! RT @edCetraT: Qwrap) it’s a wrap. thanks folks..nancy safar checking out.. see you all at #mlearncon #lrnchat
09:55:11 pm cindyhugg: #lrnchat Thanks all for a fun evening of chatting about metaphors! G’night!
09:55:35 pm gerdriesen: Flying Dutchman: was nice to be joining again #lrnchat
09:55:46 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman – eLearning Designer at Johns Hopkins HealthCare. Learned some new metaphors & not 2 over use them. #lrnchat
09:55:51 pm RSLearning: @JaneBozarth Hum… can I sleep on it first, LOL? A lot of witty tweeters on #lrnchat
09:55:52 pm 2lead2day: #lrnchat Cammy here -former teacher working world of edreform/communications. PR/comm Spec. 4 online tutoring company http://t.co/hODlKIWH
09:55:55 pm _Kavi: RT @jankenb2: #lrnchat Learning to use metaphor is a powerful instructional strategy. I would think that leaders apply metaphors in a conscious way.
09:56:01 pm minutebio: RT @egmathews: RT @Quinnovator: q1) our brains are wired to detect patterns and similarities, metaphors are natural resonances #lrnchat
09:56:06 pm cammybean: Qw) Cammy Bean is a breath of fresh air. Living life as a metaphor and writing about learning stuff here: http://t.co/cVZLuace #lrnchat
09:56:18 pm gerdriesen: This is learning “@cammybean: @gerdriesen “speeches are like babies”… that’s a simile not a metaphor… #lrnchat”
09:56:22 pm 2lead2day: #lrnchat as always – awesome time! I learn a lot and have a ball – see you next week!
09:56:22 pm Quinnovator: getting serious about mobile learning? mobile learning strategy workshop at #mlearncon http://t.co/wcZHm355 #lrnchat
09:56:30 pm _Kavi: RT @jsuzcampos: Q1) Metaphors may get lost in translation between different cultures. #lrnchat
09:56:33 pm _Kavi: RT @chris_saeger: Q2) a metaphor may rely on context that is not shared and then it doen’t work #lrnchat
09:56:36 pm JaneBozarth: @RSLearning better to try and just not lurk. you did fine. it gets easier. #lrnchat
09:56:38 pm tomspiglanin: Qwrap2) would like to know where tonight’s idea and questions came from. Lively, diverse thought, fun. And I learned! #lrnchat
09:56:42 pm cammybean: I just tried to write a too long Tweet in Twitter and it told me to be more clever. #lrnchat
09:56:47 pm JaneBozarth: Jane is a trip. #lrnchat
09:56:55 pm kelly_smith01: Qw) Night- Kelly Smith, Social media person and other stuff #lrnchat
09:57:18 pm kellygarber: qwrap – kelly garber, freelance instructional designer, night all!
#lrnchat
09:57:21 pm RSLearning: @JaneBozarth Thank you! I’ll try to engage more next time #lrnchat
09:57:49 pm JaneBozarth: Qwrap2 tonight I learned more about the problems with ambiguous/wrong/harmful metaphors. #lrnchat
09:57:58 pm richardmerrick: RT @LnDDave: NEW POST: Should We Change The Language of Training? | Mindflash http://t.co/WwgUbsPV #ASTD2012 #lrnchat
09:58:00 pm cammybean: @gerdriesen🙂 “A speech is a baby” would be a metaphor… #lrnchat
09:58:21 pm cammybean: Yes, indeed. @janebozarth IS a trip. #lrnchat
09:58:25 pm JaneBozarth: For fabulous film re metaphor see “Being There”. #lrnchat
09:58:54 pm kelly_smith01: Thanks to the #lrnchat hosts and sheriffs and metaphorologists. #lrnchat
09:59:44 pm lrnchat: Goodnight everyone! Take care and have a good week. See you next Thursday, same place and time. Watch for tonight’s transcript. #lrnchat
10:00:15 pm chris_saeger: mT @RSLearning Ill try to engage more next time < “Do or do not… there is no try.” yoda.🙂 #lrnchat
10:00:31 pm 2lead2day: qwrap – I learned there are a ton of awesome english/lit. nerds to hang out with on #lrnchat night all!
10:01:23 pm JaneBozarth: @kelly_smith01 yes. we should do #BeingThereChat simulswatch sometime. #lrnchat
10:01:35 pm _Kavi: RT @minutebio: Q3) 1st metaphor I may use in a course is to gain attention #Gagne #lrnchat
10:01:57 pm RSLearning: Engage nxt time I will RT @chris_saeger: mT @RSLearning Ill try 2 engage more nxt time < “Do or dnt… thr is no try.” yoda.🙂 #lrnchat
10:02:19 pm PivotLearning: @2lead2day Have you used The Little Prince? Great metaphors about our world. #lrnchat
10:02:28 pm _Kavi: RT @Quinnovator: q3) use a metaphor and pursue implications to see if same holds true in what I’m learning about #lrnchat
10:02:43 pm _Kavi: RT @LnDDave: Q3) by building a connection between two new concepts using a bridge between two known concepts. #lrnchat
10:04:58 pm chris_saeger: RT @thereal_Yoda: @chris_saeger May the force be with you little padawan. Believe in you I do. #starwars #lrnchat <serendipitous learning?

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