Transcript 2 March 2012

02:30:26 pm lrnchat: Welcome to #lrnchat! How are you today?
02:30:49 pm LotusEducation: How Do We Know When Students Are Engaged? How does this translate for virtual classes ? http://t.co/7ggqEQGf #lrnchat #lotuseducation
02:31:24 pm lrnchat: If you are new to #lrnchat, we have rules available here: http://t.co/4Lr208H4
02:31:49 pm gagnon: I agree with most of this but reserve judgement on point #4 RT @willrich45: Are You Network Literate? http://t.co/iuSKJLCt #edchat #lrnchat
02:32:02 pm chipple521: I’m happy to be with #lrnchat after a long absense
02:32:03 pm lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ the weekly #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself. Where are you from? What have you learned this week?
02:32:11 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Welcome to #lrnchat! How are you today? #lrnchat
02:32:21 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: If you are new to #lrnchat, we have rules available here: http://t.co/NezDZLld #lrnchat
02:33:10 pm pschoolsystems: Teaching and Modeling Good Digital Citizenship http://t.co/BhZBYCSs #edchat #edtech #lrnchat
02:34:02 pm Tracy_Parish: Hi-diddlee-ho #lrnchat
02:34:04 pm citytravelbug: RT @lrnchat: If you are new to #lrnchat, we have rules available here: http://t.co/4Lr208H4
02:34:38 pm Tracy_Parish: Is it just you and me @JaneBozarth ? #lrnchat whoops and @lauraLJ #lrnchat
02:34:42 pm jmass: Hey now fellow #lrnchat’ers! Justin Mass, Sr. Learning Technologist at Adobe. New York. Learned G+ Hangouts are pretty awesome! #lrnchat
02:35:21 pm C4LPT: #lrnchat just starting I will RT here but join as @janehart
02:35:41 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ the weekly #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself. Where are you from? What have you learned this week?
02:36:06 pm JaneBozarth: Re the #lrnchat rules: I tend to flaunt them. Sorry. #lrnchat
02:36:08 pm owenferguson: Q0) Owen Ferguson, from @goodpractice, Edinburgh. This week I learned about the Scottish enlightenment. Too much for 140 characters #lrnchat
02:36:14 pm LauraLJ: #lrnchat Laura blogs @purplelearning. Shropshire Uk. Learned a little about eye prescriptions thru when assessing live online session🙂
02:36:28 pm stellacollins: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ the weekly #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself. Where are you from? What have you learned this week?
02:36:33 pm citytravelbug: A0. Awake in wee Sidney, BC, Canada. Used 2b an elearning whiz; now caretaker to 90yo mom. Learned: new tvs don’t come with cables! #lrnchat
02:36:54 pm LauraLJ: RT @lrnchat: If you are new to #lrnchat, we have rules available here: http://t.co/x98JlpPL
02:36:58 pm JaneBozarth: Jane, Raleigh North Carolina, USA. Interested in learnin’ stuff. Working in real world. Happy to see everyone. #lrnchat
02:37:01 pm iVentiv: Hey #lrnchat, Russell Butler, CEO at iVentiv. ‘Cloud Learning’ is my new term of the week!
02:37:11 pm citytravelbug: RT @billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ the weekly #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself. Where are you from? What have you learned this week?
02:37:53 pm janehart: Jane Hart, Bath UK, helping people to work collaboratively and learn from one another as they do so #lrnchat
02:38:01 pm billcush: Q0) Bill Cushard. L&D dude in Denver today. Learned that discipline is the difference. #lrnchat
02:38:30 pm rnantel: I’m here. Have never participated before so be easy on me. #lrnchat
02:39:08 pm janehart: @rnantel Welcome Richard – just enjoy the flow #lrnchat
02:39:25 pm edCetraT: Nancy, T.O.. welcome @rnantel! #lrnchat
02:39:35 pm tcarterlearning: #lrnchat. UK Training Manager. Faced the difficulties/complexities of language barrier in class room based training this week
02:39:38 pm JaneBozarth: @rnantel oh dear you shouldn’t have told us that… #lrnchat
02:39:49 pm stevier: Stevie, Penn State University. Happy to join #lrnchat this morning!
02:40:02 pm billcush: We’ll try. RT @rnantel: I’m here. Have never participated before so be easy on me. #lrnchat
02:40:04 pm lrnchat: Q1) How do little things like enough sleep or ups/downs at work affect your capacity to learn & change behavior? #lrnchat
02:40:07 pm jmass: @rnantel Pretty mellow stream so far, so should be manageable😉 Welcome! #lrnchat
02:40:21 pm C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do little things like enough sleep or ups/downs at work affect your capacity to learn & change behavior? #lrnchat
02:40:46 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do little things like enough sleep or ups/downs at work affect your capacity to learn & change behavior? #lrnchat
02:40:53 pm jmass: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do little things like enough sleep or ups/downs at work affect your capacity to learn & change behavior? #lrnchat
02:40:57 pm Tracy_Parish: Tracy Parish, Newmarket, Ontario. Happy to divert my attention with something more fun like #lrnchat.
02:41:01 pm jzurovchak: John Zurovchak in Columbus – I learned adding 1B brains is a LOT of thought power directed at global probs: http://t.co/6XHVvjMW #lrnchat
02:41:15 pm citytravelbug: Q0. My name is Roberta. Missed that part of my intro! #lrnchat
02:42:04 pm Tracy_Parish: Q1) Lack of sleep really makes me punchy and wanting to move from one topic to another quick with no real absorption of either. #lrnchat
02:42:15 pm JaneBozarth: Q1 College: I always wondered how effective pulling all-night study was. I could never do it. #lrnchat
02:42:20 pm visualrinse: Q1) It can be tough get past the negativity or bad energy. Gotta find the strength and goodness. power through. #lrnchat
02:42:27 pm owenferguson: Q1) Oh, I don’t think sleep is a little thing. How energised you feel through tiredness, emotional state etc have a massive impact. #lrnchat
02:42:30 pm Tracy_Parish: Q1) but then so does lack of a lovely tea. #lrnchat
02:43:04 pm rnantel: Has a huge impact IMHO. Fight or flee response kicks in. Primitive brain takes over. #lrnchat
02:43:11 pm techherding: Dick Carlson, Columbia SC. Pug Wrangler at http://t.co/gGHx9AAT Annoying people about e-learning since 1955. #lrnchat
02:42:30 pm Tracy_Parish: Q1) but then so does lack of a lovely tea. #lrnchat
02:43:04 pm rnantel: Has a huge impact IMHO. Fight or flee response kicks in. Primitive brain takes over. #lrnchat
02:43:11 pm techherding: Dick Carlson, Columbia SC. Pug Wrangler at http://t.co/gGHx9AAT Annoying people about e-learning since 1955. #lrnchat
02:43:19 pm scottmerrett: A1) concentration/focus fail #lrnchat might spend too much time distracted w things like ohh I dunno… Twitter
02:43:26 pm billcush: Q1) Many types of distractions hinder learning. Lack of sleep for too long, personal problems, tax deadlines…#lrnchat
02:43:30 pm owenferguson: @JaneBozarth I always found that all night study meant I could pass a test. Learning something on the other hand … #lrnchat
02:43:36 pm JaneBozarth: Work conditions,stressors, work satisfaction have enormous impact on whether/how much we learn/whether we apply #lrnchat
02:43:51 pm chipple521: Q1 #lrnchat Lack o sleep didn’t bother me so much in college – but now I need 8 hours. And hunger really slows my learning down too!
02:44:01 pm Tracy_Parish: q1) Ups/Downs. Don’t get me started, if ur down or being “forced” to learn something….you pay very little attn to anything #lrnchat
02:44:19 pm JaneBozarth: @billcush It’s funny– so much talk about ‘digital distractions’ as if the others weren’t just as valid/of concern #lrnchat
02:44:23 pm stellacollins: Q0) from Royal Berkshire in UK. Learned that 3 minutes of intense exercise feels like forever but leaves you laughing #lrnchat
02:44:32 pm JaneBozarth: @owenferguson exactly. #lrnchat
02:44:43 pm rnantel: @jmass Thanks. Always at this time on Fridays? #lrnchat
02:44:44 pm jmass: This week held a virtual mgmt dev session for APAC started at 11:30pm my time. Going global means flexing “regular” work hours. #lrnchat
02:45:12 pm owenferguson: Q0) Read about a study the other day that seemed to suggest that you’re more creative when you’re tired though http://t.co/SEQLhsTw #lrnchat
02:45:25 pm cliffordb: RT @willrich45: Contrary to popular belief, young people are not digital wizards. http://t.co/0U2k9Mop We learning this? #edchat #lrnchat
02:45:29 pm techherding: Q1 I once had to teach apps to shift workers coming off 12 hour night shift. Hilarity ensued. #lrnchat
02:45:45 pm billcush: Q1) I am not much of a sleeper, but after a stretch, I need to make it up with a solid night sleep. like charging a battery #lrnchat
02:45:54 pm Tracy_Parish: @owenferguson Could be that you’re less likely to have the “constraints” come to your mind. #lrnchat
02:46:20 pm rnantel: Great to see so many industry colleagues here BTW. #lrnchat
02:46:21 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) In college I had Mountain Dew. Non-stop productivity. #lrnchat
02:46:32 pm JaneBozarth: Today we’re referencing research cited in article: http://t.co/4AaSDy3C) #lrnchat
02:46:38 pm billcush: RT @Tracy_Parish: q1) Ups/Downs. if ur down or being “forced” to learn something….you pay very little attn to anything #lrnchat
02:47:20 pm chipple521: Q1 Actually lack of exercise is worse 4 me than lack of sleep. I’ll give up a bit of sleep to find time to exercise. #lrnchat
02:47:51 pm hjarche: @lrnchat I have been much more creative as a freelancer – I start the mornings fresh & with few interruptions + no commute #lrnchat
02:48:12 pm audioswhite: Q1) Puled lall nighters in college and still do, although getting tougher to do. Manic energy & “good” stress has worked for me #lrnchat
02:48:13 pm billcush: @JaneBozarth who talks about the distraction I have when my wife sends me to the dog house #lrnchat
02:48:19 pm owenferguson: RT @JaneBozarth: Today were referencing research cited in article: http://t.co/t3jn7Y0f < it’s a really great collection #lrnchat
02:48:29 pm jmass: Lack of sleep is huge. If my mind feels slower, I get so much less done, not as sharp, leads to stress. #lrnchat
02:48:47 pm JaneBozarth: Do we know when we’re learning? How to become more mindful/create more optimal situations for ourselves in which we can learn? #lrnchat
02:48:53 pm citytravelbug: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do little things like enough sleep or ups/downs at work affect your capacity to learn & change behavior? #lrnchat
02:49:07 pm billcush: RT @owenferguson: Q0) Read about a study that suggested that you’re more creative when you’re tired though http://t.co/wpiy2zE6 #lrnchat
02:49:20 pm LauraLJ: Q1 #lrnchat lack of sleep = lack of concentration, affects , learning and general day to day & triggers my migraines
02:49:35 pm stipton: Lurking today. Shannon chicago. Everyone ready to be #rebels? #lrnchat
02:49:35 pm JaneBozarth: BTW the secret to moving at the Speed of Jane is lots & lots of Diet Mt Dew. #lrnchat
02:49:47 pm Tracy_Parish: @JaneBozarth Optimal learning for me just might be a deserted island with unlimited bar/buffet and a wifi connection.🙂 #lrnchat
02:49:56 pm rnantel: @hjarche I’m sure the oxygen to your brain from your bike rides helps creativity. #lrnchat
02:49:57 pm billcush: RT @JaneBozarth: Today we’re referencing research cited in article: http://t.co/oju304b6 (PsyBlog) #lrnchat @myen
02:50:01 pm jmass: @JaneBozarth Mornings are my best for learning. Fresh mind, coffee/tea, quiet reading… leads to reflection/awareness of learning. #lrnchat
02:50:14 pm LauraLJ: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do little things like enough sleep or ups/downs at work affect your capacity to learn & change behavior? #lrnchat
02:50:44 pm JaneBozarth: Flip it: research says we can learn best during uplifting life phases. How can you create more of those moments? #lrnchat
02:51:17 pm billcush: @JaneBozarth I know I am learning when I am in pain, struggling to understand whatever it is. #lrnchat
02:51:42 pm jmass: RT @hjarche I start the mornings fresh & with few interruptions + no commute. <– Ditto! #lrnchat
02:51:49 pm billcush: Yes! Cool! RT @stipton: Lurking today. Shannon chicago. Everyone ready to be #rebels? #lrnchat
02:51:50 pm Jane_Leonard: #lrnchat Q1 if you are really motivated and energised by project, you dont care about sleep or exercise
02:52:00 pm chipple521: @JaneBozarth – We’re results focused. Takes me a long time to respond to “what did you learn?” much less to “What did you do?” #lrnchat
02:52:07 pm aaronesilvers: YES > RT @Quinnovator: came up at #utaou: would a mixed-author blog on recent research be of use/interest? (attn: @usablelearning) #lrnchat
02:52:10 pm Dave_Ferguson: @billcush We learn better w/ some stress rather than none, but too much stress also hinders. #lrnchat
02:52:16 pm apetroski: RE http://t.co/203J0GjZ @JaneBozarth We’re always learning. I don’t think most people are mindful of that. #lrnchat
02:52:28 pm jmass: @JaneBozarth Ask yourself, what uplifts me most? Do MORE of THAT! #lrnchat
02:52:50 pm Tracy_Parish: CHOCOLATE ! #lrnchat
02:52:59 pm iVentiv: Q1) Performance is heavily impacted by lack of sleep, but time pressure/stress can help re-balance things! #lrnchat
02:53:04 pm jmass: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @billcush We learn better w/ some stress rather than none, but too much stress also hinders. #lrnchat
02:53:12 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) I have to move to get the brain going. Offices with walls and doors are counterproductive. #lrnchat
02:53:13 pm billcush: Agreed! RT @Jane_Leonard: #lrnchat Q1 if you are really motivated and energised by project, you dont care about sleep or exercise
02:53:23 pm JaneBozarth: @Dave_Ferguson agree — thinking of 1st time parents of newborns. #lrnchat
02:53:56 pm lesleywprice: ooooppps..lost track of time..so joining a bit late #lrnchat
02:53:58 pm owenferguson: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @billcush … but too much stress also hinders. < Csikszentmihalyi’s concept of ‘Flow’ #lrnchat
02:54:14 pm MarkColemanTX: RT @jmass: @JaneBozarth Ask yourself, what uplifts me most? Do MORE of THAT! #lrnchat
02:54:16 pm BLPindy: Paradoxically, the “little” things are actually the biggest of things…as they effect every moment of our lives. #lrnchat
02:54:22 pm billcush: @Dave_Ferguson that’s what Goldilocks said. #lrnchat
02:54:24 pm LauraLJ: #lrnchat lack of sleep + lack of exercise = zzzzzzzzzzzz (think I’ll be off to bed then)
02:54:32 pm JaneBozarth: @Dave_Ferguson @aaronesilvers Others showed interest last night. I offered space in eLearn Mag. #lrnchat
02:54:51 pm citytravelbug: Q1 never realized how big sleep was til I began caretaking my mom, now often sleep deprived.Hard to concentrate, things don’t stick #lrnchat
02:54:51 pm jmass: Trying to sleep while getting kicked in the face isn’t optimal. When do they stop doing that? #lrnchat
02:54:59 pm JaneBozarth: lots here suggesting that learning = studying. Is that all? #lrnchat
02:55:02 pm lrnchat: Q2) Brainstorming can result in less creativity than individual thought. What else can you do to elicit ideas? #lrnchat
02:55:03 pm owenferguson: Re Csikszentmihalyi’s concept of ‘Flow’ < really should have provided a link to that🙂 http://t.co/kHuVxJ4y #lrnchat
02:55:16 pm stipton: .@JaneBozarth by understanding the things you cannot change. Engage in what you can change or influence. Life becomes happier. #lrnchat
02:55:30 pm Dave_Ferguson: Remember that “research” isn’t proof, but indication.”Research” used to say stress causes ulcers. Biggest cause? Bacteria. #lrnchat
02:55:48 pm AndyKons: #lrnchat I get my best ideas just before I drift to sleep..so I guess it helps🙂
02:55:51 pm npmaven: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Brainstorming can result in less creativity than individual thought. What else can you do to elicit ideas? #lrnchat
02:55:52 pm iVentiv: @billcush @Jane_Leonard Yes, but If you’re too energised you can burn energy just thinking about projects and be flat when needed! #lrnchat
02:55:53 pm lesleywprice: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Brainstorming can result in less creativity than individual thought. What else can you do to elicit ideas? #lrnchat
02:55:59 pm JaneBozarth: So– what are your best conditions for learning? Me– topic I like, problem to solve, early in day. I’m way better 6 am- noon. #lrnchat
02:56:17 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) Ask for outside opinions, people not involved with the workflow but have desired knowledge. #lrnchat
02:56:20 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Brainstorming can result in less creativity than individual thought. What else can you do to elicit ideas? #lrnchat
02:56:28 pm JaneBozarth: @Dave_Ferguson Based on some convo yesterday I am no longer believing in the research on atomic theory. I don’t see no molecules. #lrnchat
02:56:32 pm scottmerrett: Q1) some stress motivates, some inhibits. Sometimes lack of sleep kills concentration, sometims it sparks creativity. No 1 answr #lrnchat
02:56:38 pm stellacollins: Q1) I’ve just read that the amount we smile can affect our ability to learn – to be flexible and open to learning #lrnchat
02:56:38 pm owenferguson: @Dave_Ferguson Research proved that though, didn’t it?🙂 #lrnchat
02:56:42 pm jankenb2: #lrnchat Jenny, Ankara Turkey. Adult ESL Teacher and Teacher-Trainer.
02:56:43 pm billcush: Q2) Long distance running. #lrnchat
02:56:46 pm BLPindy: Freewriting stream of consciousness style helps immensely for ideation. Take the pressure off. Also, rote tasks like cooking. #lrnchat
02:57:00 pm C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Brainstorming can result in less creativity than individual thought. What else can you do to elicit ideas? #lrnchat
02:57:09 pm JaneBozarth: Q2) Brainstorming can result in less creativity than individual thought. What else can you do to elicit ideas? #lrnchat #lrnchat
02:57:29 pm Dave_Ferguson: @owenferguson Absolutely; my comment was just not to use “it’s research” as biblical proof text. #lrnchat #addthetag
02:57:34 pm techherding: RT @jmass: Trying to sleep while getting kicked in the face isn’t optimal. When do they stop doing that? << Early 40s, usually #lrnchat
02:57:38 pm RyanJSegrist: http://t.co/UyNx3Aqe These are really accessible, and free! #lrnchat #learning
02:57:43 pm stipton: .@JaneBozarth experiencing, engaging =learning. Studying just makes my head hurt. #lrnchat
02:57:43 pm billcush: @Dave_Ferguson research has proved that death is the no. 1 killer. #lrnchat
02:57:56 pm LauraLJ: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Brainstorming can result in less creativity than individual thought. What else can you do to elicit ideas? #lrnchat
02:58:12 pm JaneBozarth: Q2 People need quiet space and time to think. I am thankful I have a real office w real door both at work and home. #lrnchat
02:58:16 pm Dave_Ferguson: @JaneBozarth You know, gravity is just a theory. #lrnchat
02:58:28 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) Review the work of other great thinkers or industry professionals. Not theft. Inspiration! #lrnchat
02:58:34 pm billcush: @iVentiv @Jane_Leonard like an athlete, we need to peak for our biggest projects? #lrnchat
02:58:39 pm JaneBozarth: RT @billcush: @Dave_Ferguson research has proved that death is the no. 1 killer. #lrnchat
02:58:43 pm LauraLJ: Q2 #lrnchat get away from your PC – go for a walk – quiet contemplation – old fashioned pencil and paper
02:59:07 pm JaneBozarth: @Dave_Ferguson I know. Imma start a movement to protest teaching the theory of gravity in schools. #lrnchat
02:59:22 pm citytravelbug: Q1. It’s interesting to watch what sleep does to my 90yo mom. Dementia worse with less sleep.Rested = alert, engaged, can learn🙂 #lrnchat
02:59:22 pm citytravelbug: Q1. It’s interesting to watch what sleep does to my 90yo mom. Dementia worse with less sleep.Rested = alert, engaged, can learn🙂 #lrnchat
02:59:35 pm npmaven: Q2) At my best early a.m., sleeping dog, learning journal & pen in hand. #lrnchat
02:59:38 pm JaneBozarth: I am all about post it notes on a wall, brought back to the group and all put up on a bigger wall. #lrnchat
02:59:48 pm lesleywprice: q2) I think it depends on who you brainstorm with working on your own for ideas can become very introspective #lrnchat
02:59:51 pm jankenb2: @AndyKons #lrnchat I am just the opposite here. Mine are the misty minutes btwn sleep and wakefulness..they’re pregnant with creativity!
03:00:02 pm rnantel: Ideas for me only come when moving. Walking, running, cycling. Worse place to have ideas is at a desk. #lrnchat
03:00:11 pm Dave_Ferguson: RT @JaneBozarth: People need quiet space, time to think. Thankful I have real office w real door. #lrnchat
03:00:39 pm owenferguson: Q2) Poor brainstorming! Brainstorming in groups can result in less creativity. Brainstorming individually first produces + results. #lrnchat
03:00:57 pm hjarche: @rnantel cycle-therapy, monsieur🙂 #lrnchat
03:01:05 pm npmaven: Q2) Ways to capture ideas as they arise, for later exploration also critical. Tech (e.g., Evernote) plays important role here. #lrnchat
03:01:07 pm LeftyJack: RT @JD_Dillon: Q2) Review the work of other great thinkers or industry professionals. Not theft. Inspiration! #lrnchat
03:01:11 pm Jane_Leonard: Q2 creativity = imagination +action #kenrobinson. must have a plan
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03:01:13 pm techherding: Q2) “Brainstorming” is a way to come up with lots of ideas. I just need one GOOD idea. #lrnchat
03:01:19 pm Dave_Ferguson: I know some people thrive on interaction of big open office. I’d rather have oral surgery. #lrnchat
03:01:33 pm janehart: Q1) All these factors influence our ability to do our jobs – and that is when/how we learn most (whether we realise it or not) #lrnchat
03:01:39 pm JaneBozarth: @lesleywprice “Brainstorming Doesn’t Really Work” http://t.co/48hydald #lrnchat
03:01:41 pm AndyKons: Q2) Meditate..just let the thoughts stream in and out…sit in silence…remove external stimuli…#lrnchat
03:01:58 pm jmass: Ask team to submit ideas prior to team review (introvert sensitivity). Challenge groupthink, brainstorm & consensus not the same. #lrnchat
03:02:03 pm owenferguson: Q2) Collaborating with and being around people you disagree with helps stimulate ideas. #lrnchat
03:02:10 pm npmaven: Ditto. Quiet rules. RT @Dave_Ferguson: I know some people thrive on interaction of big open office. Id rather have oral surgery. #lrnchat
03:02:16 pm LauraLJ: RT @rnantel: Ideas for me only come when moving. Walking, running, cycling. Worse place to have ideas is at a desk. #lrnchat
03:02:19 pm ccbranham: RT @Dave_Ferguson: I know some people thrive on interaction of big open office. I’d rather have oral surgery. #lrnchat
03:02:36 pm JaneBozarth: @lesleywprice Brainstorming Reloaded http://t.co/gkDxuslI #lrnchat
03:02:37 pm iVentiv: Q2) I look at the worst-case & best-case scenarios, then reverse the steps to make it happen #lrnchat
03:02:44 pm Dave_Ferguson: I’ve always found brainstorming much loved by the person taking notes. In off-hours, he’s an editor. #lrnchat
03:02:52 pm JaneBozarth: RT @Dave_Ferguson: I know some people thrive on interaction of big open office. I’d rather have oral surgery. #lrnchat
03:02:54 pm JohnAkerson: @JaneBozarth: Q2) Brainstorming = less creativity than individual.What to do? A: Reward smart, careful,creative risk #lrnchat #lrnchat
03:03:01 pm billcush: Q2) whiteboards everywhere…and unlimited supply of pens. #lrnchat
03:03:40 pm billcush: Exercise is No. 1 RT @rnantel: Ideas for me only come when moving. Walking, running, cycling. Worse place…is at a desk. #lrnchat
03:03:43 pm jmass: I know meditation encourage thinking “nothingness,” but I’m much better at onethingness. Taking one idea deeper. #lrnchat
03:03:47 pm Dave_Ferguson: I sure hope you idea-generating cyclists aren’t writing them down when I open my car door. #lrnchat
03:03:48 pm techherding: My best ideas always surface in the shower. It’s my subconscious saying “I’m Wrinkly And Want To Get Out!” #lrnchat
03:03:49 pm JaneBozarth: Q2 revisit purpose of the brainstorming anyway: what is problem we’re trying to solve? #lrnchat
03:03:51 pm LauraLJ: Q2 #lrnchat capturing ideas- always keep a notebook handy (e or otherwise although paper never runs out of battery!
03:03:59 pm JaneBozarth: oh yeah. Whiteboard paint! RT @billcush: Q2) whiteboards everywhere…and unlimited supply of pens. #lrnchat
03:04:08 pm techherding: +1 RT @Dave_Ferguson: I know some people thrive on interaction of big open office. I’d rather have oral surgery. #lrnchat
03:04:11 pm billcush: @rnantel evidence cited in “Brain Rules.” #lrnchat
03:04:12 pm owenferguson: Q2) Brainstorming Reloaded: Why brainstorming is ineffective and how to fix it http://t.co/9DWWqg5g (plus why bother fix it) #lrnchat
03:04:18 pm jmass: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Ive always found brainstorming much loved by the person taking notes. <- SUPER important role! #lrnchat
03:04:27 pm JaneBozarth: Whiteboard paint : http://t.co/n9eQQOKw #lrnchat
03:04:50 pm JaneBozarth: yes RT @LauraLJ: Q2 capturing ideas- always keep a notebook handy (e or otherwise although paper never runs out of battery! #lrnchat
03:05:04 pm JaneBozarth: @LauraLJ it’s wonderful to revisit those notebooks later #lrnchat
03:05:07 pm LauraLJ: @npmaven #lrnchat @evernote great if at PC/wifi enabled tablet but I find ideas come when away from the tech
03:05:12 pm lesleywprice: @JaneBozarth but he also wrote “Many of us can work much better creatively when teamed up”

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03:05:21 pm jankenb2: #lrnchat Q2 Does the human brain need more time to defrag than once a day? Cutting edge business strategy…alert employees?😉
03:05:23 pm iVentiv: @Dave_Ferguson I find my creativity stifled with others, I need my own space to generate ideas, that’s not a rule for all though #lrnchat
03:05:38 pm Dave_Ferguson: Valuable tool for me: sketch on flipchart, snap a pic, send to Evernote. Text in image is searchable. #lrnchat
03:05:42 pm npmaven: @LauraLJ Never w/o my little learning journal. Pen to paper. Huge for creative wk for me. Or capturing ideas. #lrnchat
03:05:44 pm tcarterlearning: #lrnchat Q2 Escape from open office into the quiet works for me.
03:05:52 pm JaneBozarth: Am sure if @LearnNuggets were here today he’d talk about sketching… #lrnchat
03:06:00 pm JaneBozarth: @lesleywprice that’s not the same as brainstorming. #lrnchat
03:06:08 pm owenferguson: Q2) think hard about problem > go away and think about something else > unconscious brain solves problem > answer pops into head🙂 #lrnchat
03:06:08 pm npmaven: @LauraLJ Evernote on phone helps w/that. But different kinds of capture there, vs. paper. Just realized that. #lrnchat
03:06:11 pm billcush: @techherding what’s that Edison quote about how he loves bad ideas b/c each one gets him closer to the good ones? #lrnchat
03:06:16 pm stellacollins: RT @janebozarth: Q2) Brainstorming can result in less creativity than individual thought. What else can you do to elicit ideas? #lrnchat
03:06:24 pm Dave_Ferguson: @jmass It’s a valuable role, but WAY too often brainstorm ‘facilitator’ is editing, chopping, shaping. Ritual. #lrnchat
03:06:35 pm JaneBozarth: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Valuable tool for me: sketch on flipchart, snap a pic, send to Evernote. Text in image is searchable. #lrnchat
03:06:36 pm jmass: Music helps me get into work groove something fierce! Mornings are often #electronic, #hiphop, #dance, #dubstep. #lrnchat
03:06:50 pm npmaven: Q2) Mindmapping helps take me out of normal mode, shake brain cells, try out different configurations. #lrnchat
03:07:00 pm billcush: @JaneBozarth @lesleywprice in my experience…people love their own ideas way too much. #lrnchat
03:07:07 pm JaneBozarth: @lesleywprice the question is: ” What else can you do to elicit ideas? ” #lrnchat
03:07:31 pm npmaven: Have mindmapping apps, but never use. That one *must* happen via pen, paper. For me.🙂 #lrnchat
03:07:35 pm jmass: @Dave_Ferguson Agreed, need dedicated capturer then separate reviewer/editor. #lrnchat
03:07:44 pm LauraLJ: RT @JaneBozarth: @LauraLJ it’s wonderful to revisit those notebooks later #lrnchat>> just discovered mindmapping – its great
03:07:45 pm rnantel: Interesting. 2 approaches: 1 create ideas using props like pens and post-its. 2 create environment where ideas come by walking, etc.#lrnchat
03:07:55 pm techherding: Thankful I have a real (home) office. Can be quiet, or can rock with music so loud the pugs cover their little ears. #lrnchat
03:07:58 pm JaneBozarth: Crux of Q2 is: What else can you do to elicit ideas? #lrnchat
03:08:04 pm citytravelbug: Q2. in my corporate L&D days, I’d say “sleeping on it” was my best key to creativity. Ironic considering my sleep deprivation now #lrnchat
03:08:37 pm billcush: Ok .. This is the 2nd time i heard about this. Gotta order some. RT @JaneBozarth: Whiteboard paint : http://t.co/kYPDf0TV #lrnchat
03:09:16 pm JaneBozarth: @LauraLJ @quinnovator is a mindmappin’ fool. Check out his stuff — #lrnchat
03:09:21 pm LauraLJ: Q2 #lrnchat our e-team like to think alone then discuss and share to flesh out. Back to think alone then share etc etc
03:09:22 pm kellygarber: Q2 – watch saturday morning cartoons #lrnchat
03:09:54 pm Dave_Ferguson: Searched my Evernote stuff for the word “text” http://t.co/wuVx1F8D #lrnchat
03:10:03 pm lrnchat: Q3) When have you adjusted an uncomfortable idea to make it fit w/what you’re more comfortable thinking? #lrnchat
03:10:13 pm JaneBozarth: RT @kellygarber: Q2 – watch saturday morning cartoons #lrnchat
03:10:14 pm rnantel: Elizabeth Gilbert in TED talk speaks of waiting for inspiration from some outside influence http://t.co/e3BZ0dxQ #lrnchat
03:10:25 pm JaneBozarth: RT @LauraLJ: Q2 our e-team like to think alone then discuss and share to flesh out. Back to think alone then share etc etc #lrnchat
03:10:28 pm iVentiv: @npmaven @LauraLJ When do you jot ideas down? When they’re down you stop thinking on them right? Thus ending the creative trail? #lrnchat
03:10:34 pm billcush: @npmaven @LauraLJ great ideas can be saved w @evernote I have taken pictures of things to save the idea I had. #lrnchat
03:10:36 pm C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q3) When have you adjusted an uncomfortable idea to make it fit w/what you’re more comfortable thinking? #lrnchat
03:10:38 pm LauraLJ: RT @tcarterlearning: #lrnchat Q2 Escape from open office into the quiet works for me>> me too. WFHome = more productivity WFOffice = not so
03:10:48 pm npmaven: RT @lrnchat: Q3) When have you adjusted an uncomfortable idea to make it fit w/what youre more comfortable thinking? #lrnchat
03:11:01 pm jmass: Depending on org, may/may not have luxury of creativity for creativity’s sake. Get clear on what you’re trying to solve for. #lrnchat
03:11:10 pm npmaven: Love! RT @billcush: @npmaven @LauraLJ great ideas can be saved w @evernote I have taken pictures of things to save the idea I had. #lrnchat
03:11:16 pm JD_Dillon: Q3) Every time a client demands a specific delivery method for learning. #lrnchat
03:11:50 pm lesleywprice: q2) watch the way that children play and learn…they have imagination that is not tarnished by experience #lrnchat
03:12:05 pm JaneBozarth: Q3: happens with relationships: Decide boss is jerk, they do something nice, we tend to dismiss as fluke/something in the water. #lrnchat
03:12:27 pm JaneBozarth: RT @jmass: Depending on org,may/may not have luxury of creativity for creativitys sake. Get clear on what youre trying to solve for #lrnchat
03:12:27 pm npmaven: @iVentiv I use as prompts for later. Often happens at wk, during creative hrs. Idea pops up, unrelated to job. Capture 4 followup #lrnchat
03:12:37 pm LauraLJ: Q2 #lrnchat programmer hubby goes to bed thinking of problem then wakes up often solving it!!!
03:12:40 pm jmass: I can’t even repeat Q3 to myself without getting a headache😉 #lrnchat
03:12:51 pm citytravelbug: RT @JaneBozarth: Crux of Q2 is: What else can you do to elicit ideas? #lrnchat
03:13:04 pm owenferguson: Q3) Everyone does that all the time. It’s a common cognitive bias – to believe otherwise is delusional (and very human!) #lrnchat
03:13:06 pm Dave_Ferguson: @JaneBozarth …or, decide boss is one of those uptight INFJs… #lrnchat
03:14:55 pm JD_Dillon: Q3) When due dates are set before consultation with any development team. #lrnchat
03:15:07 pm YourBigPic: If you smile too much can it put people off?! RT @stellacollins the amount we smile can affect our ability to learn #lrnchat
03:15:27 pm kellygarber: Q3 – it isn’t a “temporary assignment”, it is a once in a life time opportunity. #lrnchat
03:15:28 pm JeffHurt: Looking To Learn: Why Visuals Are So Important #lrnchat #eventprofs #pcma http://t.co/zdQn7h7B
03:15:40 pm billcush: Friday morning #lrnchat rocks…but I gotta go. Thanks for helping me start me day all…
03:15:48 pm citytravelbug: A3. Q3 baffles me. Almost makes my head hurt. Whaattt? I might just dodle til the next question… (kidding) #lrnchat
03:16:29 pm npmaven: RT @lesleywprice: q2) watch the way that children play and learn imagination | video here discusses: http://t.co/vxGkzE3y #lrnchat
03:16:38 pm JaneBozarth: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @JaneBozarth …or, decide boss is one of those uptight INFJs… #lrnchat
03:16:42 pm Dave_Ferguson: @YourBigPic If you smile too much, some people figure you’re into multi-level marketing. #lrnchat
03:17:05 pm LauraLJ: RT @lrnchat: Q3) When have you adjusted an uncomfortable idea to make it fit w/what you’re more comfortable thinking? #lrnchat
03:17:05 pm JaneBozarth: Side question about Q3 What does this say about learning? How much do we change real info to fit what we believe or want to know? #lrnchat
03:17:08 pm lesleywprice: q3) happens all the time people are not comfortable with cognitive dissonance #lrnchat
03:17:11 pm YourBigPic: Agreed we default to giving each their own voice RT @stellacollins RT @janebozarth: Q2) Brainstorming can result in less creativity #lrnchat
03:17:46 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lesleywprice: q3) happens all the time people are not comfortable with cognitive dissonance #lrnchat
03:18:02 pm LauraLJ: RT @lesleywprice: q3) happens all the time people are not comfortable with cognitive dissonance #lrnchat
03:18:43 pm jmass: “When your mind becomes obsessed with anything, you will filter everything else out and find that thing everywhere.” Sol Robeson #lrnchat
03:19:10 pm stellacollins: @techherding you need lots of ideas to explore in order to get the one good idea #lrnchat
03:19:11 pm FolioLuke: Common experience. RT @lauralj: Q2 #lrnchat programmer hubby goes to bed thinking of problem then wakes up often solving it!!!
03:19:36 pm lesleywprice: q3) classical example is in Aesop’s Fable about Fox and Grapes http://t.co/jz9rIamL #lrnchat
03:20:03 pm stellacollins: RT @lrnchat: Q3) When have you adjusted an uncomfortable idea to make it fit w/what you’re more comfortable thinking? #lrnchat
03:20:41 pm stellacollins: RT @lauralj: RT @lesleywprice: q3) happens all the time people are not comfortable with cognitive dissonance #lrnchat
03:21:03 pm LauraLJ: @FolioLuke #lrnchat I go to sleep writing a blog post in my mind – I don’t sleep!! Have to write it or forget it
03:21:43 pm JD_Dillon: Q3) Gets uncomfortable sometimes when you try to learn without the right level of support. #lrnchat
03:22:14 pm FionaQuigs: q3) Everyday! #lrnchat
03:22:28 pm lesleywprice: q3) it then leads onto post-purchase rationalisation….where we justify our behaviour..and this doesn’t just apply to shopping #lrnchat
03:22:33 pm jmass: OK so Q3 bit of a flop, but we can take it on the chin😉 #lrnchat
03:22:34 pm audioswhite: Q3) Honestly? more than I should. Dissonance works – tension leads to dicovery (in music too) but often is uncomforatble #lrnchat
03:22:41 pm janehart: Q3) This is what happens w concept of “informal learning”, pple trying to make it fit with what they know/believe, ie training #lrnchat
03:23:33 pm owenferguson: Q3) Explaining things away as ‘the exception that proves the rule’ is the essence of handling uncomfortable cognitive dissonance. #lrnchat
03:23:41 pm iVentiv: Q3) Change. Trying to predict and understand it – to fit with what we would like to happen. #lrnchat
03:23:53 pm FionaQuigs: q3) more seriously, which I am asked to design compliance training to “just tick the boxes” and “stop being idealistic” #lrnchat
03:24:38 pm JaneBozarth: RT @owenferguson Q3) Explaining things away as exception that proves rule = essence of handling uncomfortable cognitive dissonance. #lrnchat
03:25:03 pm lrnchat: Q4) How can we encourage people to think for themselves rather than just follow instructions? #lrnchat
03:25:15 pm jmass: 70-20-10 is now like 95-4-1😉 #lrnchat
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03:25:35 pm jmass: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How can we encourage people to think for themselves rather than just follow instructions? #lrnchat
03:25:38 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How can we encourage people to think for themselves rather than just follow instructions? #lrnchat
03:25:41 pm npmaven: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How can we encourage people to think for themselves rather than just follow instructions? #lrnchat
03:25:41 pm C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How can we encourage people to think for themselves rather than just follow instructions? #lrnchat
03:25:42 pm citytravelbug: RT @jmass: OK so Q3 bit of a flop, but we can take it on the chin😉 #lrnchat
03:25:50 pm LnDDave: Hey early #lrnchat. Just popping in for a bit during a break. Hope everyone is well.
03:26:09 pm owenferguson: Q4) Remove punishments for not following instructions or rewards for simply following them. It’s all about incentives. #lrnchat
03:26:20 pm jmass: Ask questions that encourage exploration vs. find answers. #lrnchat
03:26:27 pm citytravelbug: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How can we encourage people to think for themselves rather than just follow instructions? #lrnchat
03:26:28 pm Dave_Ferguson: Q4 (think for yourself) If designig training/learning/support, connect directly to valued real-world tasks. #lrnchat
03:26:47 pm LauraLJ: Q3 #lrnchat ppl feel uncomfortable when something doesn’t make sense – need to relate it to something. If nothing – square peg/round hole
03:27:03 pm JaneBozarth: Q4 Empower people to act. Clerk at local drugstore can’t give $5 refund w/o having to call a manager. #lrnchat
03:27:11 pm LnDDave: Q4) Give them the sppon. #lrnchat
03:27:25 pm LauraLJ: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How can we encourage people to think for themselves rather than just follow instructions? #lrnchat
03:27:27 pm lesleywprice: q4) don’t be critical of other’s ideas…nothing worse than hearing ‘yes but’! #lrnchat
03:27:47 pm LnDDave: RT @LnDDave: Q4) Give them the sppon. #lrnchat < Teach them to spell first though… *Spoon*
03:28:30 pm Dave_Ferguson: Q4 At risk of self-promo, my blog post “Yoda was wrong–of COURSE there’s ‘try’ ” http://t.co/QL2u9IbG (on minimalism) #lrnchat
03:28:41 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) Don’t ask “what did you do wrong?” Ask “what did you learn?” #lrnchat
03:28:49 pm LauraLJ: Q4 #lrnchat give them a little info, a little guidance and send them out to explore
03:28:59 pm owenferguson: @lesleywprice maybe we need to be better at seeing criticism in a +ve light. It’s great to be challenged and refine your thinking #lrnchat
03:29:08 pm FionaQuigs: q4) we need to sell it to them. What happens if they do, what happens if they don’t think for themselves? #lrnchat
03:29:32 pm LauraLJ: Q4 #lrnchat be a mentor not an instructore
03:29:51 pm janehart: Q4) Need to move fr creating learning solutions for others to supporting self-organised initiatives #lrnchat autonomy is a prime motivator
03:29:55 pm LauraLJ: Q4 #lrnchat i meant ‘instructor’
03:30:00 pm hjarche: @lrnchat Q4 – get rid of the instructions! Use gamers as an example (no instructions come with computer games) #lrnchat
03:30:16 pm LnDDave: Q4) if you’re not REALLY needed… Get the hell out of the way. #lrnchat
03:30:17 pm JanetSymmons: Collaborative bookmarking in education: http://t.co/8BYUKfnr #socialmedia #sm #edchat #lrnchat #smedu
03:30:31 pm flowchainsensei: @lrnchat: A4) Auftragstaktik #lrnchat
03:30:47 pm JaneBozarth: RT @hjarche: @lrnchat Q4 – get rid of the instructions! Use gamers as an example (no instructions come with computer games) #lrnchat
03:30:50 pm citytravelbug: A4. Teach ppl how to find answers, vs give ’em. Give time to reflect. Tell ppl to ask themselves “how would this work in my wotrld” #lrnchat
03:30:51 pm Akoma0224: RT @npmaven: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How can we encourage people to think for themselves rather than just follow instructions? #lrnchat
03:30:59 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) Put the resources and knowledge out there. Hand-off accountability. #lrnchat
03:31:09 pm lesleywprice: @owenferguson but not good if all you ever hear is criticism as it can damage confidence #lrnchat
03:31:12 pm JaneBozarth: Look at who is doing this: Zappos, Southwest Air. How do they do it? #lrnchat
03:31:19 pm owenferguson: @hjarche last game I bought came with a 40 page instruction book😉 I didn’t read it, but … #lrnchat
03:31:29 pm JaneBozarth: Listen. #lrnchat
03:32:01 pm LnDDave: Q4) Make it safe to have ideas – which only happens if you allow for ‘bad’ ideas. #lrnchat
03:32:28 pm owenferguson: @lesleywprice absolutely. a culture of +ve challenge & debate is important. Stifling useful critique can be just as damaging though #lrnchat
03:32:32 pm LauraLJ: RT @lesleywprice: @owenferguson … can damage confidence #lrnchat >> our job is help build confidence through positive feedback and support
03:32:49 pm edCetraT: RT @LnDDave: Q4) Make it safe to have ideas – which only happens if you allow for bad ideas. #lrnchat
03:32:59 pm hjarche: @owenferguson I know my kids NEVER read instructions & most first person shooter games don’t have any #lrnchat
03:33:25 pm lesleywprice: @LnDDave Q4) Make it safe to have ideas – which only happens if you allow for ‘bad’ ideas <people learn from mistakes🙂 #lrnchat
03:33:44 pm EleniZazani: RT @willrich45: Are You Network Literate? http://t.co/AQRbcv11 Technology, identity, intelligence and capability. #edchat #lrnchat
03:33:52 pm stellacollins: Q4) How can we encourage people to think for themselves rather than just follow instructions? #lrnchat
03:33:57 pm jankenb2: RT @hjarche: @lrnchat Q4 – get rid of the instructions! Use gamers as an example (no instructions come with computer games) #lrnchat
03:34:08 pm janehart: Q4) Too many people have bn conditioned to wait for instructions rather than take the initiative #lrnchat and training just reinforces that
03:34:19 pm LauraLJ: @hjarche #lrnchat I never read instructions – hate them. I try it out – if it doesn’t work I try again. (am I a bloke in disguise?)
03:34:19 pm JaneBozarth: @hjarche seriously. Ain’t no instructions. #lrnchat
03:34:38 pm JD_Dillon: RT @janehart: Q4) Too many people have bn conditioned to wait for instructions rather than take the initiative #lrnchat and training just reinforces that
03:35:07 pm JaneBozarth: reward results, not just compliance. Did better solution save money? Lives? Up sales? #lrnchat
03:35:08 pm Dave_Ferguson: Actually, I’ve found that most people at work stop following instructions if no value appears w/in 15 minutes. #lrnchat
03:35:11 pm WBadawy: RT #lrnchat I want to put a ding in the universe. – Steve Jobs
03:35:18 pm hjarche: @LauraLJ no, just a learner🙂 #lrnchat
03:35:21 pm iVentiv: @LnDDave Exactly! And reward all ideas & innovations even those that fail a la Ben&Jerry Graveyard: http://t.co/YZwjIJlr #lrnchat
03:35:34 pm jmass: Explore the fringe. #lrnchat
03:35:47 pm LnDDave: @JaneBozarth @hjarche And when gamers need instructions, they consult The Google for exactly what they need from other players. #lrnchat
03:35:50 pm JaneBozarth: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Actually, Ive found that most people at work stop following instructions if no value appears w/in 15 minutes. #lrnchat
03:35:56 pm npmaven: More that way as I age. RT @LauraLJ: @hjarche I never read instructions. hate them. I try it out. if it doesnt work I try again. #lrnchat
03:36:04 pm Dave_Ferguson: If those people are stuck in group-paced, click-and-turn “learning,” they just zone out. Accounted for but not present. #lrnchat
03:36:07 pm swpax: @C4LPT It they are scared, especially after reading Drive/other works, then this fear is what makes them managers and not leaders. #lrnchat
03:36:12 pm owenferguson: @hjarche ah, but kids are brilliant & I’m over 30! I sometimes need to RTM to find out how to pull off that special manoeuver #lrnchat
03:36:29 pm citytravelbug: A4 create space for, and honour, different learning styles. Really do it. Give ppl choice in how they get to outcome. #lrnchat
03:36:44 pm LauraLJ: @janehart #lrnchat some ppl hate problem solving tasks in courses – too much like hard work. They just want instructions. Its habit
03:36:46 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) Make initiative part of the job, not just execution. #lrnchat
03:36:47 pm janehart: Q4) “Control leads to compliance; autonomy leads to engagement” Dan Pink, Drive #lrnchat
03:37:17 pm JaneBozarth: Interesting assumption with this question that people DO follow instructions😉 #lrnchat
03:37:21 pm edCetraT: Q4) Set aside time for workers to identify improvements…has anyone heard of atlassian? #lrnchat
03:37:22 pm FionaQuigs: @C4LPT we need a better convincer Jane – they won’t read a book to find out #lrnchat
03:37:24 pm Dave_Ferguson: This is the REAL ‘advantage’ to most online learning–I can do something else & Powers That Be can’t tell. #lrnchat
03:37:25 pm lesleywprice: @janehart also comes from exams/assessments in education…its the way people are conditioned #lrnchat
03:37:22 pm FionaQuigs: @C4LPT we need a better convincer Jane – they won’t read a book to find out #lrnchat
03:37:24 pm Dave_Ferguson: This is the REAL ‘advantage’ to most online learning–I can do something else & Powers That Be can’t tell. #lrnchat
03:37:25 pm lesleywprice: @janehart also comes from exams/assessments in education…its the way people are conditioned #lrnchat
03:37:31 pm danrelbert: Q4) Scaffold knowledge+empowerment (the mojo)=thinking for oneself. #lrnchat
03:37:31 pm npmaven: RT @JD_Dillon: Q4) Make initiative part of the job, not just execution. #lrnchat
03:37:47 pm hjarche: @LnDDave I examined how my son learns a game: try all functions; die lots; when blocked, check online; then ask network for help #lrnchat
03:37:47 pm ProTrainConcept: RT @C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How can we encourage people to think for themselves rather than just follow instructions? #lrnchat
03:37:52 pm janehart: @LauraLJ This is outside of courses, in the real world #lrnchat
03:38:13 pm MetrixGroup: “@nmdunk: Does the 70% of the “70-20-10” model equate to informal learning, or just self-directed learning? #MGlrns #lrnchat”
03:38:15 pm stellacollins: RT @janehart: Q4) “Control leads to compliance; autonomy leads to engagement” Dan Pink, Drive #lrnchat
03:38:26 pm Dave_Ferguson: @LauraLJ I agree; too many organizations have beaten Little Corp. Schoolhouse dosage model into the serfs, I mean staff. #lrnchat
03:38:48 pm hjarche: @jankenb2 duties are not instructions – I want people who can think for themselves #lrnchat
03:38:52 pm citytravelbug: Is it cheating to ask what u mean? Or am I supposed to figure that out for myself? RT@flowchainsensei: @lrnchat: A4) Auftragstaktik #lrnchat
03:39:18 pm LauraLJ: @jankenb2 @hjarche #lrnchat games help ppl practice in realistic situations which helps best practice in real life
03:39:31 pm edCetraT: Q4) GOOGLE also an has interesting approach – 20% time. #lrnchat
03:40:02 pm lrnchat: Q5) What do you do to keep your brain fresh & learn new things about cognition? Links extra welcome. #lrnchat
03:40:03 pm janehart: @FionaQuigs There’s a nice little video instead http://t.co/z86z4FmY 10 minutes #lrnchat
03:40:06 pm LauraLJ: RT @JaneBozarth: Interesting assumption with this question that people DO follow instructions😉 #lrnchat >> nope they just READ them!!
03:40:17 pm TSEGuide: Why Visuals Are So Important #eventprofs #lrnchat http://t.co/o3W5t5J4 by @JeffHurt
03:40:18 pm C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What do you do to keep your brain fresh & learn new things about cognition? Links extra welcome. #lrnchat
03:40:26 pm JaneBozarth: @citytravelbug mission tactics — military– following instructions w/o question #lrnchat
03:40:44 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What do you do to keep your brain fresh & learn new things about cognition? Links/books welcome. #lrnchat
03:41:01 pm swpax: Q4) Foster culture that views mistakes as path to success, loss as potential for greater gain. #lrnchat
03:41:14 pm Dave_Ferguson: When I’m emperor, effort spent on flashy systems promo & online courses will go to robust, authentic practice mode. #lrnchat
03:41:30 pm npmaven: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What do you do to keep your brain fresh & learn new things about cognition? Links/books welcome. #lrnchat
03:41:45 pm swpax: A5) Twitter #lrnchat
03:42:01 pm jenisecook: Amen! + measurable results> RT @JaneBozarth: reward results, not just compliance. Did better solution save money? Lives? Up sales? #lrnchat
03:42:04 pm hjarche: @citytravelbug http://t.co/1T2lKL2V @lrnchat @flowchainsensei #lrnchat
03:42:09 pm owenferguson: Q5) Daniel Kahneman’s book Thinking, Fast and slow is THE must read book on cognition http://t.co/ARSBOUAv #lrnchat
03:42:15 pm Dave_Ferguson: Keep brain fresh: get new, unfam. stimuli. Read hard science, practice 2nd language, don’t just talk w/those in my field. #lrnchat
03:42:17 pm LauraLJ: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What do you do to keep your brain fresh & learn new things about cognition? Links extra welcome. #lrnchat
03:42:23 pm npmaven: Q5) Read from new, unrelated sources (blogs, mags, etc.). Make connections across interests… #lrnchat
03:42:47 pm JD_Dillon: Q5) Daily dose of TED. It’s like inspirational video crack. #lrnchat
03:43:00 pm gillian_white: @lrnchat Q5) park in difft spot everyday, brush teeth w/ lefthand, read ‘other side’s’ political media, do things differently! #lrnchat
03:43:03 pm npmaven: Definitely. Drawing ideas, resources from *very* diverse group of thinkers, topics.🙂 RT @swpax: A5) Twitter #lrnchat
03:43:05 pm Dave_Ferguson: Keep brain fresh #2: stay away from stuff with chips periodically. (Also, don’t eat too many chips.) #lrnchat
03:43:37 pm JaneBozarth: Twitter keeps my brain flexible, like “Interactions” mag for design/HCI/brain stuff, TED. #lrnchat
03:43:38 pm owenferguson: Q5) Seek out and maintain a diverse network, seek out opposing viewpoints, keep abreast of the research, never believe the headline #lrnchat
03:43:46 pm JD_Dillon: Q5) Write. Don’t have to publish it. Don’t have to be an expert. Sharing is a bonus. #lrnchat
03:44:00 pm JaneBozarth: MT @jankenb2: Is fatigue due prtly to not thinking for oneself? #lrnchat
03:44:20 pm swpax: A5) 1. Exercise, sleep, nutrition 2. Limited TV unless educational (except Modern family) 3. Share ideas/seek discussion w others #lrnchat
03:44:40 pm LauraLJ: Q5 #lrnchat network, socialise, converse, debate, have an open mind, join @lrnchat
03:44:48 pm JaneBozarth: RT @JD_Dillon: Q5) Write. Dont have to publish it. Dont have to be an expert. Sharing is a bonus. #lrnchat
03:44:48 pm ParlezWireless: RT @TSEGuide: Why Visuals Are So Important #eventprofs #lrnchat http://t.co/o3W5t5J4 by @JeffHurt
03:44:52 pm sparkandco: Hey #lrnchat – like this Q5) keep brain fresh with: walrus mag (Canadian) and Scientific American in paper format!
03:44:53 pm JD_Dillon: Q5) Play games. Engage new people in discussion. Take a nap. Not all at once. #lrnchat
03:44:56 pm jankenb2: @owenferguson #lrnchat Q5 Yes, I read the book and will reread it. Errors R result of unchecked assumptions & confidence in our knowledge.
03:45:19 pm JaneBozarth: @JD_Dillon ‘ morning JD. Good to see you — #lrnchat
03:45:24 pm EleniZazani: Q5: Apart from TED step back and reflect #lrnchat and take some sleeping breaks, I agree
03:45:36 pm JaneBozarth: RT @JD_Dillon: Q5) Play games. Engage new people in discussion. Take a nap. Not all at once. #lrnchat
03:45:40 pm Dave_Ferguson: @sparkandco I didn’t know there was a magazine for walruses. #lrnchat
03:45:49 pm hjarche: @jankenb2 yes, maybe, maybe #lrnchat
03:45:53 pm citytravelbug: RT @npmaven: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What do you do to keep your brain fresh & learn new things about cognition? Links/books welcome. #lrnchat
03:46:00 pm jankenb2: RT @janehart: Q5) Twitter – where people share good/relevant stuff – where else?! #lrnchat
03:46:03 pm sparkandco: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @sparkandco I didn’t know there was a magazine for walruses. #lrnchat (only Canadian ones😉 )
03:46:04 pm owenferguson: @jankenb2 It’s definitely a book to read more than once. #lrnchat
03:46:06 pm JaneBozarth: Sometimes something way out of your area is amazing: Gawande’s “Complications” on how an adult learns in practice #lrnchat
03:46:06 pm LauraLJ: Q5 #lrnchat reflect, analyse and blog – don’t care if no-one reads it – write it for yourself
03:46:12 pm npmaven: RT @JD_Dillon: Q5) Write. Dont have to publish it. Dont have to be an expert. Sharing is a bonus. #lrnchat
03:46:25 pm kellygarber: RT @gillian_white Q5) park in difft spot everyday,brush teeth w/ lefthand, read other sides political media, do things differently! #lrnchat
03:46:25 pm LauraLJ: RT @npmaven: RT @JD_Dillon: Q5) Write. Dont have to publish it. Dont have to be an expert. Sharing is a bonus. #lrnchat
03:46:33 pm swpax: A5) Overcome fear to ask questions and be open about ignorance. saves time and learn more by asking. Acknowledge others’ expertise #lrnchat
03:46:40 pm JaneBozarth: Find good curators outside your field: I like @james3neal on info science, art, music #lrnchat
03:47:16 pm swpax: A5) Quiet time. Regular quiet, solitary time. #lrnchat
03:47:43 pm JaneBozarth: So what does today’s chat tell us about learning, how and when and why we learn? #lrnchat
03:47:46 pm iVentiv: Q5) I run exec learning events so I am biased – but in my view you have to supplement any on-line learning with face-to-face #lrnchat
03:47:50 pm JD_Dillon: Q5) Go watch people. Not in the creepy way. Just sit and watch interaction. Theme parks are great for that. #lrnchat
03:48:11 pm LauraLJ: Q5 #lrnchat read stuff you don’t necessarily agree with, question yourself and see things from different perspectives
03:48:45 pm LauraLJ: Q5 #lrnchat break out from that silo!!!
03:48:50 pm swpax: @kellygarber @gillian_white Reading opposing views-key, if only to strength personal arguments and even learn something about ppl. #lrnchat
03:48:52 pm owenferguson: RT @LauraLJ: Q5 #lrnchat read stuff you dont necessarily agree with, question yourself and see things from different perspectives #lrnchat
03:48:53 pm npmaven: Q5) Secondary benefit of blogging for me: finding voice as adult educator. Learning by articulating, sharing, interacting. #lrnchat
03:49:09 pm LauraLJ: RT @JaneBozarth: So what does today’s chat tell us about learning, how and when and why we learn? #lrnchat
03:49:10 pm EleniZazani: just joined #lrnchat Great ideas to give myself a break
03:49:47 pm swpax: @JD_Dillon Have wrked at parks, ski areas, bars, etc. and people watching (not creepy way) is great way to learn sociology. #lrnchat 1/2
03:50:03 pm LauraLJ: #lrnchat we learn because we want to not because we’re told to. If we’re not motivated give us encouragement and the tools to help us
03:50:12 pm citytravelbug: A5. Doodle. Play with art supplies. Nap. Be open to feedback. Be CURIOUS! Allow self to be distracted by shiny objects (or ideas) #lrnchat
03:50:17 pm swpax: @JD_Dillon The key is to do so w/out judgment #lrnchat 2/2
03:50:29 pm EleniZazani: RT @JaneBozarth: Find good curators outside your field: I like @james3neal on info science, art, music #lrnchat
03:50:29 pm JaneBozarth: See? Spirit of Twitter: RT @james3neal Thanks for the mention and happy to share. #lrnchat
03:50:38 pm marciamarcia: RT @swpax: Reading opposing views-key, if only to strength personal arguments & even learn something about ppl. #lrnchat
03:51:08 pm coopscience: RT @marciamarcia: RT @swpax: Reading opposing views-key, if only to strength personal arguments & even learn something about ppl. #lrnchat
03:51:16 pm JaneBozarth: @EleniZazani welcome! Glad you enjoyed it — #lrnchat
03:51:49 pm marciamarcia: Cool! RT @JaneBozarth: Find good curators outside your field: I like @james3neal on info science, art, music #lrnchat
03:51:52 pm OU_com: Try one! RT @kellygarber @gillian_white Q5) park in difft spot everyday, brush teeth w/ lefthand, read other sides political media. #lrnchat
03:51:55 pm MtnLaurel: RT @marciamarcia: RT @swpax: Reading opposing views-key, if only to strength personal arguments & even learn something about ppl. #lrnchat
03:52:00 pm sparkandco: Wish I would have did the whole #lrnchat today, still find the early morning time hard.
03:52:13 pm JaneBozarth: Q5 Reading research cited in articles like the one we’re discussing today… #lrnchat
03:52:27 pm mgerbrick: Ask us edtech questions, we provide answers, LIVE and interactive right now at 11AM EST http://t.co/X2JoBhsh #lrnchat
03:52:38 pm JaneBozarth: Q5 Friend took woodworking course — learning physical skill is very different for most of us. #lrnchat
03:52:40 pm janehart: Q5) Learning happens a lot serendipitously so just being around bright people u will learn a lot (prob even w/o realising it) #lrnchat
03:53:18 pm audioswhite: yeah network! -just followed RT @JaneBozarth Find good curators outside your field: I like @james3neal on info science, art, music #lrnchat
03:53:23 pm Dave_Ferguson: @owenferguson I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken. #lrnchat
03:53:49 pm JaneBozarth: Seminar on brain/aging: ex-Astronauts & ex-Presidents do not suffer from dementia (Reagan had Alzheimer’s) – they speak, write #lrnchat
03:53:52 pm swpax: A5) Ongoing mindfulness of present moment: those around you, what they have to offer, what they need, what you need & have to offer #lrnchat
03:53:57 pm Dave_Ferguson: RT @JaneBozarth: Friend took woodworking course — learning physical skill is very different for most of us. #lrnchat
03:54:44 pm sparkandco: Planning on taking my 14 y.o. to our local documentary film fest this weekend, that should shake the brain up #lrnchat
03:54:46 pm JaneBozarth: @audioswhite I met him in a Twitter convo re jerk chicken. Offer still stands, @james3neal #lrnchat
03:54:50 pm Dave_Ferguson: @JaneBozarth Yes; so many knowledge workers are in process-type enviros; rare to have finished product. #lrnchat
03:55:05 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Time is almost up. Please reintroduce yourself. Share links, requests & shameless plugs. #lrnchat
03:55:17 pm LauraLJ: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time is almost up. Please reintroduce yourself. Share links, requests & shameless plugs. #lrnchat
03:55:32 pm JaneBozarth: @Dave_Ferguson she’s taking welding now. tech writer for software company. #lrnchat
03:56:10 pm GECsound: RT @willrich45: Are You Network Literate? http://t.co/AQRbcv11 Technology, identity, intelligence and capability. #edchat #lrnchat
03:56:10 pm jankenb2: @janehart #lrnchat Know about SOLO taxonomy? It scaffolds critical thinking in ways you may not have used school/work. http://t.co/FQ3C9GBM
03:56:26 pm stellacollins: Q5) What do you do to keep your brain fresh & learn new things about cognition? Links extra welcome. #lrnchat
03:56:30 pm npmaven: Qwrap) Debra Beck, Wyoming. Adult educator, online instructor, facilitator focused on #nonprofits (esp. NP boards). #lrnchat
03:56:52 pm LauraLJ: Thanks for the conversation #lrnchat it’s always great to share http://t.co/APEADPKw (I blog for me but all are welcome)
03:57:09 pm swpax: A5) Learn from children. Their wisdom/purity of perspective/imaination is infinite, teaches us a lot about cognition/creation. #lrnchat
03:57:14 pm jankenb2: #lrnchat Jenny Ankenbauer, Ankara Turkey. ESL teacher and Teacher Trainer. Hi all. Good conversation.
03:57:27 pm owenferguson: QWrap) Owen Ferguson from @goodpractice. thanks for the stimulating chat, folks. #lrnchat
03:57:34 pm JaneBozarth: Also March 22 keynoting @Questionmark conference: “Look Before You Leap: What you Measure is What you Get” #lrnchat
03:57:44 pm s0ngb1rd: RT @owenferguson: Q5) Daniel Kahneman’s book Thinking, Fast and slow is THE must read book on cognition http://t.co/ARSBOUAv #lrnchat
03:57:52 pm iVentiv: Thanks all! Russell Butler, CEO iVentiv, if you’re a CLO join us, we’re in NYC this May: http://t.co/cdffH7ES #lrnchat
03:57:56 pm Dave_Ferguson: Dave, Wash DC-ish, more & more about how not to get stuck in “training,” longish blog posts, cheerful skeptic.
#lrnchat
03:58:16 pm JaneBozarth: Join me at #LSCon for cert program “Mgrs Guide to Social Media for Learning” http://t.co/WQbCsrhx #lrnchat
03:59:03 pm lrnchat: Thanks for joining #lrnchat. We’ll post the transcript on http://t.co/DbPZXnE9 soon. See you next Friday!
03:59:06 pm stellacollins: q5) #lrnchat linked in groups ‘NLP and Neuroscience’, http://t.co/sJYjpHe9, BFLG http://t.co/5m0UGTMp , work with clever colleagues
04:00:02 pm citytravelbug: RT @lrnchat: Thanks for joining #lrnchat. We’ll post the transcript on http://t.co/DbPZXnE9 soon. See you next Friday!
04:00:02 pm owenferguson: QWrap) Wrote about cognitive bias & the challenges they present for learning practitioners a while ago http://t.co/LaFvN4PW #lrnchat
04:00:06 pm stellacollins: @owenferguson #lrnchat loved the beginning and end of Thinking but the statistical middle made my brain ache (good for me?)
04:00:08 pm MrKeenan: http://t.co/VSP9KAex: Using Twitter in the Classroom: A Presentation http://t.co/gfOTIgCk #edchat #lrnchat #GETCA #abed #ipadined
04:00:26 pm swpax: How the Brain Learns: http://t.co/wCIQTviy Teacher, aspiring edu leader, parent, student, school brd member, coach, & dad/husband #lrnchat
04:00:31 pm JaneBozarth: RT @cammybean: Great chat tonight — loved the focus on the brain and cognition instead of training… #lrnchat
04:01:19 pm JD_Dillon: Qwrap) Thanks for the #lrnchat everyone! Make it a happy #ff … JD from Orlando, awaaaayyyyyyyyy!
04:01:55 pm JaneBozarth: @MrKeenan Twitter for Trainers http://t.co/QZRtm12W #lrnchat
04:02:01 pm swpax: Correction: How the Brain Learns: http://t.co/NGkE1PEa (other link was learns to read) #lrnchat
04:02:39 pm EleniZazani: Great chat I am Info pro and supporting lifelong learners with f-2-f & #elearning, London #lrnchat
04:03:16 pm LauraLJ: #lrnchat thanks for all the links – I’m going to be busy ‘learning’ tonight!
04:03:49 pm C4LPT: @MrKeenan How to use Twitter for social learning http://t.co/zCTL5sJS #lrnchat
04:04:58 pm EleniZazani: My latest presentation : Science Information Literacy Tutorials and P… http://t.co/TzIuN7fG #lrnchat

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