Transcript 8 December 2011 (Late)

08:30:07 pm lrnchat: Welcome to #lrnchat! How are you tonight?
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08:31:44 pm ronindotca: @lrnchat afternoon. A brilliant, sunny warm one. And I’m good thanks. #lrnchat
08:31:46 pm JaneBozarth: @lrnchat Peachy, thanks! #lrnchat
08:32:02 pm JaneBozarth: #lrnchat on now!
08:32:03 pm lrnchat: Q0. We begin w/a #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself; where you’re from. What have you learned this week?
08:32:31 pm reubentozman: Reuben #Lrnchat
08:33:10 pm reubentozman: RT @cammybean: Tonights #lrnchat topic: slow learning. Put your ideas in the crockpot and come on down. #Lrnchat
08:33:23 pm ronindotca: I’ve learned that even almost a year later the earthquake is still messing stuff up. We closed two buildings on campus this week. #lrnchat
08:33:27 pm PLS70: Q0. Patti-Whitby ON. College Prof.  Lrnchat n00b. #lrnchat
08:33:36 pm JD_Dillon: Q0) JD, Orlando, Director of Learning Development, learned that no one properly manages their calendar nowadays #lrnchat
08:33:45 pm StephanieDaul: Stephanie, Instructional Designer, Chicago #lrnchat
08:33:50 pm elearningguy: Q0) Mark Sheppard, Whitby, ON. Learned that I get to sink my teeth into a complex lrng project soon.  #lrnchat
08:33:59 pm belowit: David from Rocky Mount, NC. I’m learning to make lemonade. #lrnchat
08:34:06 pm usablelearning: @lrnchat Imma gonna try to #lrnchat & answer emails at the same. Likely lead to clients wondering why I’m babbling about slow learning…
08:34:07 pm ronindotca: Also, cameron Campbell in Christchurch. Work at #LincolnUniNZ. I’m on a bus. #lrnchat
08:34:16 pm Tracy_Parish: Tracy Parish, Newmarket, Ontario.  Lackie  – learned sometimes if the boss thinks X is more important than Y, u just nod & say yes #lrnchat
08:34:19 pm Keener1111: @lrnchat Christine Keene – Ajax Ontario – learning to apply design thinking to adult learning #lrnchat
08:34:28 pm PLS70: @jd_dillon I’m gonna be in Orlando in a week.  Hope your good weather holds out. #lrnchat
08:34:42 pm elearningguy: Q0) DH to @pls70 #lrnchat
08:34:48 pm TheAirton: Worst word used to hate me today goes to @lrnchat for using the word moist. should only be used for baked goods. #lrnchat
08:34:58 pm Zurtle: RT @ronindotca: I’ve learned that even almost a year later the earthquake is still messing stuff up. We closed two buildings on campus this week. #lrnchat
08:35:09 pm StephanieDaul: Learned that producing a virtual class is only fun for the first 20 mintes #lrnchat
08:35:10 pm Tracy_Parish: Learned once again…if you really want to know who your coworker are….go to the office holiday party #lrnchat
08:35:29 pm Tracy_Parish: RT @StephanieDaul: Learned that producing a virtual class is only fun for the first 20 mintes #lrnchat   LOLOLOLOL  I hear ya.
08:35:34 pm elearningguy: @Tracy_Parish Been there, done that.  #lrnchat
08:35:54 pm belowit: RT @tracy_parish: Learned once again…if you really want to know who your coworker are….go to the office holiday party #lrnchat
08:36:21 pm usablelearning: @lrnchat Q0) Julie Dirksen, Minneapolis, instructional design nerdgirl #lrnchat
08:36:35 pm PLS70: @tracy_parish I worked at law firms long enough to learn not to remember what ppl do at the holiday party. Yikes! #lrnchat
08:36:46 pm Keener1111: RT @Tracy_Parish: if you really want to know who your coworker are….go to the office holiday party – so TRUE! #lrnchat
08:37:11 pm JaneBozarth: q0 Learned a lot about opportunism and hypocrisy, but that’s probably not what you were looking for here.
 #lrnchat
08:37:22 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman – eLearning Designer in Baltimore, MD.  #lrnchat
08:37:29 pm AnnieintheSun: #lrnchat  learned this week to trust myself on mass transit in Miami & here visiting in Montreal.
08:37:33 pm HollyJustice1: Greetings #lrnchat!  Holly Justice from Portland OR. This week I learned how to herd cats. Seriously, I am enjoying my new job.
08:37:37 pm belowit: @usablelearning Minneapolis – yes!  My old stomping grounds. #lrnchat
08:37:53 pm chris_saeger: In Roanoke va learning about energy savings before it gets too cold #lrnchat
08:37:58 pm minutebio: Q0) Learned 2day, my low-tech teammate discover & fell in luv w Wordle. Expecting 2 c it in all her PPTs from now on #lrnchat
08:38:09 pm elearningguy: @minutebio Hey Jeff! #lrnchat
08:38:18 pm TheAirton: Q0) Airton, from orlando. Preparing to sit on the beach in brazil for 3 weeks. Yes be jealous!  #lrnchat
08:38:27 pm LearnNuggets: Q0) learned that normalization of data is the future from @reubentozman #lrnchat
08:38:37 pm JaneBozarth: q0 learned about SweeTango apples, and the controversy over their production. Resembles android v iPhone app policies. Really.  #lrnchat
08:38:41 pm KoreenOlbrish: #lrnchat q0. Tandem Learning/Ayogo, learned that no one outside our industry cares about learning that doesn’t result in behavior change
08:38:46 pm belowit: I learned that being the guinea pig at work isn’t always a good thing. #lrnchat
08:39:08 pm minutebio: RT @elearningguy: @minutebio Hey Jeff! | Hey Mark – good 2 c ya! #lrnchat
08:39:12 pm sogarlene: q0 I learned how mature a 10-year-old can be. Amazing! Much to learn from our children. #lrnchat
08:39:12 pm JaneBozarth: Q0 Learned about buying cars from  the Internets. ;-)   #lrnchat
08:39:20 pm ThisLilParent: The basics of #SEO and #blogging http://t.co/K3OEW1L5 #WAHM #SAHM #SAHD #webmarketing #mktg #internet #lrnchat #career #writing #articles
08:39:43 pm JaneBozarth: RT @KoreenOlbrish learned that no one outside our industry cares about learning that doesnt result in behavior change #lrnchat
08:40:03 pm lrnchat: Q1. Slow Learning: Deliver bits of learnable content & life experiences over a long time. What works about this? #lrnchat
08:40:09 pm Plock2009: #lrnchat Pete lock DC. Learned on #pencilchat this week how school teachers face similar tech resistance as workforce development folks.
08:40:11 pm KoreenOlbrish: @TheAirton @lrnchat not even then. #lrnchat
08:40:29 pm Keener1111: Q0 Learned the iPad can be really annoying when you are just beginning to use it #lrnchat
08:40:33 pm usablelearning: Q0) learned I suck at multi-tasking #ohwaitIalreadyknewthat #lrnchat
08:40:33 pm minutebio: Q0) Learned 2day – Volunteering still makes you feel good (had a good couple of hrs w team volunteering) #lrnchat
08:40:38 pm ThomasStone: Thomas Stone, from Rochester, NY. Joining #lrnchat a little late tonight. Hello all!
08:40:43 pm JD_Dillon: @belowit Unless there are free cookies involved . . . #lrnchat
08:40:50 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q1. Slow Learning: Deliver bits of learnable content & life experiences over a long time. What works about this? #lrnchat
08:40:55 pm mizminh: I failed to learning tactical silence #lrnchat
08:40:57 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, learning experience design strategist, slow learning proponent, consultant/author/speaker, Walnut Creek CA #lrnchat
08:41:00 pm JaneBozarth: @Plock2009 and ARE the resistors… #lrnchat
08:41:10 pm JaneBozarth: Q0 and oh yes #pencilchat rocked!!  #lrnchat
08:41:14 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q1. Slow Learning: Deliver bits of learnable content & life experiences over a long time. What works about this? #lrnchat
08:41:17 pm usablelearning: @KoreenOlbrish @TheAirton @lrnchat yep, gotta back Koreen on that #lrnchat
08:41:22 pm Tracy_Parish: @ThomasStone 3 minutes late.  tisk tisk,   come back next week please and try to do better.  #lrnchat
08:41:36 pm Keener1111: RT @lrnchat: Q1. Slow Learning: Deliver bits of learnable content & life experiences over a long time. What works about this? #lrnchat
08:41:42 pm PLS70: RT @Plock2009: Learned on #pencilchat this week how school teachers face similar tech resistance as workforce dev folks. Amen! #lrnchat
08:41:46 pm TheAirton: Q0) Learn that there is a limit To the amount of hot sauce I am able to handle #lrnchat
08:41:49 pm LearnNuggets: Q0) I’m mobile lrnchatting while watching hip hop dance class. I’m learning I’m not that flexible anymore. #lrnchat
08:41:53 pm elearningguy: RT @lrnchat: Q1. Slow Learning: Deliver bits of learnable content & life experiences over a long time. What works about this? #lrnchat
08:41:54 pm Quinnovator: q1) instead of stepping away from life for learning, layering it on, connecting it to your life #lrnchat
08:42:03 pm TheAirton: RT @lrnchat: Q1. Slow Learning: Deliver bits of learnable content & life experiences over a long time. What works about this? #lrnchat
08:42:07 pm ThomasStone: Q1) Learned this week that when the airline says they can re-book you at any gate, you are better off going to cust. serv. desk. #lrnchat
08:42:17 pm usablelearning: @mizminh uh oh #lrnchat
08:42:17 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) It’s just like food, more easily digested, less impact on what they are expected to be doing, easier to apply in the short-term #lrnchat
08:42:27 pm Quinnovator: q1) more closely matches formal learning to the ways we naturally learn #lrnchat
08:42:41 pm LearnNuggets: Q1) Slow bits allow time for consumption and retention #lrnchat
08:42:43 pm StephanieDaul: RT @Quinnovator: q1) instead of stepping away from life for learning, layering it on, connecting it to your life #lrnchat
08:42:48 pm elearningguy: Q1) I just re-read @Quinnovator’s article. Does that give me an unfair advantage?😉 #lrnchat
08:42:51 pm kloomis10: Karen Loomis, E-Learning Specialist from PA — If you prove your competency, you will be sought out. #lrnchat
08:42:51 pm HollyJustice1: @AnnieintheSun Good luck with your trip Annie! Travel for biz is a challenge. Mass transit = good in NY & Portland! Stay alert. #lrnchat
08:42:53 pm KoreenOlbrish: #lrnchat q1. We don’t internalize knowledge to fuel behavior change after 1 exposure–requires repetition, practice & varied contexts
08:42:57 pm Keener1111: Q1Gives learner time to process and try out #lrnchat
08:43:02 pm usablelearning: Indeed! RT @JaneBozarth Q0 and oh yes #pencilchat rocked!! #lrnchat
08:43:12 pm AnnieintheSun: Q1. Slow Learning: Deliver bits of learnable content & life experiences over a long time. sounds like kaizen #lrnchat
08:43:17 pm Quinnovator: q1) the “spray and pray”, “show up and throw up” content model does *not* work, developing people over time does #lrnchat
08:43:41 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) That’s how we learn informally everyday, on-demand and in small amounts #lrnchat
08:43:45 pm elearningguy: Q1) It forces us to rethink the “drink from the firehose” approache we use all too often #lrnchat
08:43:52 pm Quinnovator: @elearningguy smart self-learners always take every advantage😉 #lrnchat
08:43:56 pm belowit: Q1:  Can absorb more from different areas rather than be a master of one. #lrnchat
08:43:58 pm PLS70: Q1 Takes time pressure and related stress from the learner. More opportunity to succeed #lrnchat
08:44:06 pm JaneBozarth: Oh I’m Jane, author “Social Media for Trainers” & more, columnist “learning solutions”, Ed In Chief eLearning Mag . Raleigh-ish. #lrnchat
08:44:07 pm StephanieDaul: Slow learning give you time to take it and make it your own #lrnchat
08:44:10 pm tmiket: @JD_Dillon maybe it s/b called tapas learning #lrnchat
08:44:14 pm Quinnovator: RT @LearnNuggets: Q1) Slow bits allow time for consumption and retention #lrnchat < and reflection
08:44:25 pm britz: Mark Britz basecamp #syracuse …but lurking post #yamtour in NYC …now bloated on some fine Chana Masala #lrnchat
08:44:25 pm EdutainmentM: RT @Quinnovator: q1) instead of stepping away from life for learning, layering it on, connecting it to your life #lrnchat
08:44:31 pm KoreenOlbrish: @elearningguy @quinnovator yes🙂 #lrnchat
08:44:36 pm rdeis: RT @Quinnovator: q1) instead of stepping away from life for learning, layering it on, connecting it to your life #lrnchat
08:44:42 pm JaneBozarth: Q1 Oh, speak for yourselves ;-)  #lrnchat
08:44:45 pm LearnNuggets: RT @Quinnovator: q1) the “spray and pray”, “show up and throw up” content model does *not* work, developing people over time does #lrnchat
08:44:57 pm JD_Dillon: RT @tmiket: @JD_Dillon maybe it s/b called tapas learning #lrnchat
08:45:06 pm stickylearning: Michael Eury – Learning Designer Melbourne Australia. Q0 this week learnt there’s no such thing as doing a ‘little’ gardening #lrnchat
08:45:06 pm Keener1111: RT @EdutainmentM: RT @Quinnovator: q1) instead of stepping away from life for learning, layering it on, connecting it to your life #lrnchat
08:45:27 pm JD_Dillon: @PLS70 – If you like it cold . . . well, Florida cold. #lrnchat
08:45:28 pm Quinnovator: q1) learning embedded, not learning apart #lrnchat
08:45:36 pm ThomasStone: “Yes Mrs. Parish” RT @Tracy_Parish: @ThomasStone 3 minutes late.  tisk tisk,   come back next week please and try to do better.  #lrnchat
08:45:36 pm usablelearning: RT @KoreenOlbrish: #lrnchat q1. We don’t internalize knowledge to fuel behavior change after 1 exposure–requires repetition, practice & varied contexts
08:45:44 pm Tracy_Parish: Being able to find the relevance in your life to pair with the learning “chunk” that’s being presented. #lrnchat
08:45:46 pm jankenb2: #lrnchat what does slow learning say about the interval between learning events? Is off line time activity essential for retention? #lrnchat
08:45:56 pm JD_Dillon: RT @Quinnovator: q1) learning embedded, not learning apart #lrnchat
08:46:06 pm elearningguy: @tmiket I like it!  But I’d be hungry all the time… #lrnchat
08:46:08 pm sogarlene: Q1 Slow learning – real learning. Time allows for practice reflection adoption of new thoughts behaviors. New problem=finding time. #lrnchat
08:46:09 pm QuickLessons: q1) with the gray hairs come flexed gray matter #lrnchat
08:46:09 pm TheAirton: Q1) since we’re cooking… slow learning allows the learner to marinate in the idea thought process replicate the action. #lrnchat
08:46:18 pm PLS70: Question related to Q1. Slow learning may work well in corp enviro but what about post-secondary? Could it work? #lrnchat
08:46:29 pm Plock2009: #lrnchat q1- something about “crystallized intelligence?” (wish I hadn’t forgotten what that means. Guess I memorized it for the test.) Wink
08:46:31 pm TrainerBrew: “@Quinnovator: q1) the “spray and pray”, “show up and throw up” content model does *not* work, developing people over time does #lrnchat”
08:46:32 pm Quinnovator: @KoreenOlbrish @elearningguy  and am I cheating since I wrote it? #lrnchat
08:46:37 pm usablelearning: @lrnchat Q1) Practice, practice, practice, practice #lrnchat
08:46:42 pm JaneBozarth: Q1 too much scheduled based on org convenience, not potential outcome. ie, send ’em to 8 hour workshop instead of 2 hour bits #lrnchat
08:46:56 pm tmiket: @elearningguy ..and maybe that’s not so bad when it comes to learning! #lrnchat
08:46:59 pm elearningguy: RT @TheAirton: Q1) since were cooking… slow learning allows the learner to marinate in the idea thought process replicate action. #lrnchat
08:47:16 pm KoreenOlbrish: #lrnchat q1. Slow learning acknowledges that behavior change takes time…People don’t change overnight
08:47:22 pm EdutainmentM: RT @JD_Dillon: @PLS70 – If you like it cold . . . well, Florida cold. #lrnchat
08:47:27 pm elearningguy: @Quinnovator No, you’re facilitating and sharing expertise😉 #lrnchat
08:47:27 pm stickylearning: Q1 Slow learning soaks in more deeply #lrnchat
08:47:31 pm Quinnovator: RT @KoreenOlbrish: #lrnchat q1. Slow learning acknowledges that behavior change takes time…People don’t change overnight < yea
08:47:48 pm StephanieDaul: Q1) Learn, apply, apply and repeat #lrnchat
08:48:04 pm KoreenOlbrish: @Quinnovator @elearningguy yes! #lrnchat
08:48:06 pm elearningguy: @KoreenOlbrish They also have to want to change  #lrnchat
08:48:08 pm StephanieDaul: RT @KoreenOlbrish: #lrnchat q1. Slow learning acknowledges that behavior change takes time…People dont change overnight #lrnchat
08:48:11 pm Keener1111: @PLS70 I would say yes – if the design is good – this could be woven into the curriculum #lrnchat
08:48:15 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) Paced learning targets mastery, not familiarity #lrnchat
08:48:25 pm reubentozman: RT @KoreenOlbrish: #lrnchat q1. Slow learning acknowledges that behavior change takes time…People dont change overnight->I do #Lrnchat
08:48:25 pm belowit: @janebozarth  which also kills employee motivation #lrnchat
08:48:28 pm JaneBozarth: Q1. One word: Marinate  #lrnchat
08:48:34 pm mamaier262: RT @Tracy_Parish: Being able to find the relevance in your life to pair with the learning “chunk” that’s being presented. #lrnchat
08:48:45 pm mamaier262: RT @KoreenOlbrish: #lrnchat q1. We don’t internalize knowledge to fuel behavior change after 1 exposure–requires repetition, practice & varied contexts
08:48:49 pm AnnieintheSun: @hollyjustice1 thanks for the thumbs up. Now just gotta learn to read 24 hr clock! #lrnchat
08:49:07 pm jankenb2: @Plock2009 Yes, slow learning works better in HE b/c the $$ factor > of a driver. SL is ntegrated learning… the goal of HE ed. #lrnchat
08:49:12 pm marciamarcia: Slow learning acknowledges that behavior change takes time…People dont change overnight -@KoreenOlbrish Q1 #lrnchat
08:49:18 pm Plock2009: RT @TrainerBrew: “@Quinnovator: q1) the “spray and pray”, “show up and throw up” content model does *not* work, developing people over time does #lrnchat”
08:49:24 pm KoreenOlbrish: @elearningguy or they have to want what they’d get by changing! #lrnchat
08:49:24 pm usablelearning: @lrnchat Q1) Also, sleeping on it helps (literally) http://t.co/C5hB6Ru2 #lrnchat
08:49:34 pm TheAirton: Moist lrng RT @KoreenOlbrish: #lrnchat q1. Slow learning acknowledges that behavior change takes time…People don’t change overnight
08:49:36 pm Quinnovator: @jankenb2 reckon slow learning (should) work better in orgs, too! #lrnchat
08:49:44 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) Cooking with #lrnchat, next on the Food Network!
08:49:52 pm Tracy_Parish: Q1) So will the learner go, oh great another “chunk” I can run and use…or oh crap not another 20 min training session.  Thoughts? #lrnchat
08:49:53 pm marciamarcia: It’s amazing that after a lot of marinating, change can happen very fast. #lrnchat
08:50:05 pm rpetersmauri: Onsite and Online learning: A Meaningful Distinction Any Longer?http://t.co/DrPF3Uvl #lrnchat #elearning #highered #edchat
08:50:09 pm Keener1111: RT @marciamarcia: Slow learning acknowledges that behavior change takes time…People dont change overnight -@KoreenOlbrish Q1 #lrnchat
08:50:10 pm KoreenOlbrish: @reubentozman I know…that’s why you’re so special #lrnchat
08:50:12 pm Quinnovator: RT @usablelearning: @lrnchat Q1) Also, sleeping on it helps (literally) http://t.co/8doPJ6vc #lrnchat < ‘xactly!
08:50:18 pm PLS70: @keener111 True.  Big ? is how to convince mgmt that it’s do-able and the right way to go.  #lrnchat
08:50:22 pm Keener1111: RT @usablelearning: @lrnchat Q1) Also, sleeping on it helps (literally) http://t.co/Rbfs1qa7 #lrnchat
08:50:28 pm belowit: So how would slow learning apply to this chat? #lrnchat
08:50:37 pm PLS70: @jd_dillon Brings new meaning to Iron Chef #lrnchat
08:50:40 pm mizminh: what is the relationship between behaviour change & learning plz? #lrnchat
08:50:42 pm sourcePOV: RT @marciamarcia “Slow learning acknowledges behavior chg takes time.People dont chg overnight” @KoreenOlbrish Q1 #lrnchat
08:50:43 pm usablelearning: @lrnchat Q1) And change is a process, not an event #lrnchat
08:50:51 pm KoreenOlbrish: @TheAirton dude. Gross.😉 #lrnchat
08:50:53 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1. One word: Marinate  #lrnchat < percolate, ferment, whatever metaphor you like😉
08:50:56 pm elearningguy: @Tracy_Parish I think that’s where the design and engagement factors come into play.  #lrnchat
08:51:08 pm britz: “@marciamarcia Slow learning acknowledges that behavior change takes time…People dont change overnight -@KoreenOlbrish Q1 #lrnchat”
08:51:13 pm HollyJustice1: Q1) If small bits then no excuse to not take in learning. Make it yummy so they come back for more. #lrnchat
08:51:13 pm JaneBozarth: Q1. People intuitively know this, btw. They seek/find the 8-minute tutorials on YouTube.   #lrnchat
08:51:30 pm AnnieintheSun: #lrnchat somethings are better with a little patina…wine, cheese, some processes add value over time Q1
08:51:37 pm JD_Dillon: @PLS70 – Maybe I should “godzilla” dub my next eLearning #lrnchat
08:51:38 pm jankenb2: @quinnovator Is SL too “messy” for corp? Is open-ended problem solving and open-ended task selection too open-ended for corp?  #lrnchat
08:51:42 pm Tracy_Parish: @belowit Well we are really discussion 1 topic, 5 subtopics, run and marinate in it for a week (discuss, apply) .  #lrnchat
08:51:52 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator i don’t think of percolating as reflective, but active. We’ll have to have a summit to iron all this out.  #lrnchat
08:51:55 pm Tracy_Parish: @elearningguy Good point #lrnchat
08:51:56 pm Keener1111: @PLS70 That is the true challenge! #lrnchat
08:52:14 pm mizminh: Where does slow learning leave the people about whom we say “s/he’s a fast learner”? #lrnchat
08:52:20 pm tmiket: @usablelearning slow also makes it easier to used spaced repetition for better learning #lrnchat http://t.co/i7FAMhGG
08:52:20 pm TheAirton: Q1) better use of ADDIE or K Levels  #lrnchat
08:52:26 pm Quinnovator: @jankenb2 in many (sad) cases, *is* too open-ended for corps #lrnchat
08:52:27 pm Tracy_Parish: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1. People intuitively know this, btw. They seek/find the 8-minute tutorials on YouTube.   #lrnchat < True!
08:52:29 pm stickylearning: Q1 Slow Learning – We all do it but we don’t always notice the small changes #lrnchat
08:52:52 pm marciamarcia: Sometimes goal of slow (or fast) learning isn’t retention/change. It’s ability to do. #lrnchat
08:52:53 pm Quinnovator: @TheAirton thirsty?  Need to transcend ADDIE (sip) #lrnchat
08:52:58 pm Tracy_Parish: DRINK #lrnchat
08:53:02 pm JaneBozarth: @jankenb2 it’s already happening regardless of what the corp thinks… #lrnchat
08:53:04 pm elearningguy: @jankenb2 it can’t be messier than some of the stuff forced on knowledge workers now #lrnchat
08:53:04 pm Keener1111: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1. They seek/find the 8-minute tutorials on YouTube.  – or short reading links on twitter #lrnchat
08:53:06 pm ebase: coaching, conversations, reflections are all slow learning #lrnchat
08:53:12 pm sourcePOV: lol. Stew? RT @Quinnovator @JaneBozarth: Q1. “One word: Marinate’ #lrnchat < percolate, ferment, whatever metaphor you like😉
08:53:13 pm belowit: RT @stickylearning: Q1 Slow Learning – We all do it but we don’t always notice the small changes #lrnchat
08:53:19 pm KoreenOlbrish: @mizminh great question. Learning without behavior change is knowledge without supporting action, and ultimately not very valuable #lrnchat
08:53:31 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) Small chunks of learning are easier to retrieve on-demand during downtimes or when REALLY needed to fulfill customer need #lrnchat
08:53:44 pm HollyJustice1: Funny thing about tonights #lrnchat.  I am cooking homemade soup 2. Just dumped in the vegies!
08:53:55 pm minutebio: RT @marciamarcia: Sometimes goal of slow (or fast) learning isnt retention/change. Its ability to do. #lrnchat
08:54:01 pm Quinnovator: and don’t forget the Official #lrnchat Drinking Game™ http://t.co/VeuihVpN (drinks at the ready!)
08:54:04 pm ebase: #lrnchat slow learning is not just ability to do but ability to be
08:54:06 pm Tracy_Parish: @KoreenOlbrish I’m keeping that one.  Great point to remember. #lrnchat
08:54:08 pm JaneBozarth: RT @elearningguy: @jankenb2 it cant be messier than some of the stuff forced on knowledge workers now #lrnchat
08:54:13 pm tmiket: @mizminh I think rather than only slow we should shoot for ‘appropriately paced’ Some things faster/slower than others #lrnchat
08:54:33 pm JaneBozarth: @HollyJustice1 k you can tell us whether the soup is reflecting or percolating  #lrnchat
08:54:47 pm PLS70: @JD_Dillon That is so true.  We’ve all done that. #lrnchat
08:54:49 pm sogarlene: Q1 learn it try it think about it try it again learn some more. Training in the white space. Harder to track better for learning. #lrnchat
08:54:56 pm sourcePOV: RT @stickylearning Q1 “Don’t notice the small changes” #lrnchat .. like frogs in boiling water
08:55:01 pm stickylearning: @HollyJustice1 Are you using a microwave or letting the flavours develop with a slow simmer? #lrnchat
08:55:03 pm TheAirton: We’re cooking, need drinks RT @Quinnovator: @TheAirton thirsty?  Need to transcend ADDIE (sip) #lrnchat
08:55:04 pm Tracy_Parish: @tmiket Yes, we haven’t really defined – Slow. #lrnchat
08:55:05 pm lrnchat: Q2. What doesn’t work about the “slow learning” concept for you? Why? #lrnchat
08:55:07 pm Plock2009: Q1- richer context of related info develops given time and experience  #lrnchat
08:55:07 pm elearningguy: Q1) workplace SL like coaching still needs a feedback loop to work properly otherwise it’s just talk #lrnchat
08:55:18 pm Quinnovator: @jankenb2 not quite sure the focus on SL, much more thinking about embedding in your real life, not your 2nd one😉 #lrnchat
08:55:19 pm Keener1111: @tmiket Totally agree #lrnchat
08:55:29 pm marciamarcia: Great example from @Biroschik who isn’t aiming to *learn* pivot tables in Excel. Youtube vid on demand! #lrnchat
08:55:38 pm PLS70: Q1 slow learning leaves lots of time for reflection, too #lrnchat
08:55:47 pm AnnieintheSun: #lrnchat must be careful not to let too much interval pass between learn & do or learning WILL be slow
08:55:51 pm belowit: Percolearning #lrnchat
08:56:00 pm Tracy_Parish: For us….mandatory often means deadlines.  No time to do it slow.  More employees involved =  less time to do it. #lrnchat.
08:56:00 pm Quinnovator: @jankenb2 though you could do the augmentation in 2nd Life, too #lrnchat
08:56:02 pm sogarlene: Q1 daughter struggling through 25 math problems. Argh! can we teach the public school system some of this stuff? #lrnchat #lrnchat
08:56:05 pm jankenb2: What is more important to the success of  SL (no trying n2B rhetorical) depth or breadth? #lrnchat
08:56:12 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q2. What doesn’t work about the “slow learning” concept for you? Why? #lrnchat
08:56:20 pm marciamarcia: Slow=at the pace of life. No faster. No slower. #lrnchat
08:56:20 pm JaneBozarth: lrnchat Q2. What doesn’t work about the “slow learning” concept for you? Why? #lrnchat
08:56:26 pm Quinnovator: q2) expect barriers around how to implement #lrnchat
08:56:31 pm JaneBozarth: RT@lrnchat Q2. What doesn’t work about the “slow learning” concept for you? Why? #lrnchat
08:56:32 pm elearningguy: Q2) The concept works for me. It’s convincing others that’s hard.  #lrnchat
08:56:40 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) Operational attention span, can’t marinate when everyone wants to eat now and get to dessert #lrnchat
08:56:42 pm JaneBozarth: Q2 need for things to move at Speed of Jane  #lrnchat
08:56:42 pm sourcePOV: RT @KoreenOlbrish @mizminh “Learning w/o behavior change is like knowledge w/o supporting action. Ultimately not very valuable” #lrnchat
08:56:46 pm HollyJustice1: Q1) @JaneBozarth I like full day learning myself. I realize not many people do now. Can’t sit still for that long. Generation gap. #lrnchat
08:56:49 pm PLS70: Q2) Could be hard to implement in post-secondary. Have 2 convince mgmt & students that it’s the right way. Both want fast results #lrnchat
08:56:55 pm chris_saeger: Q2) sometimes time to. Get up to speed is important #lrnchat
08:56:57 pm Quinnovator: q2) lack of a design framework might be a barrier too #lrnchat
08:57:19 pm usablelearning: RT @tmiket we should shoot for ‘appropriately paced’ Some things faster/slower than others #lrnchat < Agree http://t.co/93FlOkNm
08:57:21 pm Tracy_Parish: Q2) Every time we take someone off shift to learn means filling their position. Training cost money 4 the learner & the replacement #lrnchat
08:57:23 pm TheAirton: RT @lrnchat: Q2. What doesn’t work about the “slow learning” concept for you? Why? #lrnchat
08:57:36 pm JaneBozarth: @HollyJustice1 not me, but that’s not why.  #lrnchat
08:57:38 pm stickylearning: Q2 Sometimes I just want to know things right now #lrnchat
08:57:52 pm Keener1111: Q1 – learn, apply, gain objective feedback, apply again… #lrnchat
08:57:52 pm jankenb2: Q2 The idea that slow is better. Sometimes rapid thinking produces flashes of creativity that is n/available to conscious mind.
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08:57:59 pm mizminh: what about just in time learning? I need to know this now – not yesterday & not tomorrow. #lrnchat
08:58:02 pm marciamarcia: Even tho we rarely make what we’ve learned our own quickly, people still want to believe they can learn fast. #lrnchat
08:58:03 pm PLS70: RT @usablelearning: RT @tmiket we should shoot for appropriately paced Some things faster/slower than others #lrnchat   #lrnchat
08:58:03 pm JaneBozarth: Should I have mentioned cognitive overload back at Q1? Yes, I probably should have. #lrnchat
08:58:07 pm HollyJustice1: Q2) In Slow learning…People forget what happened B4. Must reinforce between sessions. #lrnchat
08:58:09 pm Tracy_Parish: Q2) but if learning retention and performance increase, there’s the winning argument for the $ spent #lrnchat
08:58:12 pm elearningguy: @Quinnovator Isn’t the first step as simple as adding “breathers” and meaningful repetition? #lrnchat
08:58:21 pm TrDev: Can you suggest some guidelines to give to learners to help them use case methods more effectively?:… http://t.co/2TnfHsFJ #trdev #lrnchat
08:58:33 pm AllisonAnderson: Some need guidance more than others. Slow learning doesn’t = unguided  #Lrnchat
08:58:37 pm Keener1111: @HollyJustice1 Full day…I can hardly sit through a regular length movie! #lrnchat
08:58:40 pm Quinnovator: q2) tho’ slow learning is fast in the moment, but extends the relationship over time #lrnchat
08:58:44 pm HollyJustice1: @JaneBozarth #lrnchat Percolating soup now! Beef and vegies.
08:59:00 pm Keener1111: RT @mizminh: what about just in time learning? I need to know this now – not yesterday & not tomorrow. #lrnchat
08:59:02 pm belowit: Q2 That training isn’t going to develop itself.  Ok boss. #lrnchat
08:59:07 pm Quinnovator: RT @elearningguy: @Quinnovator Isn’t the first step as simple as adding “breathers” and meaningful repetition? #lrnchat < verily
08:59:09 pm elearningguy: @Tracy_Parish Weigh that against the cost of time for “relearning” if you go too fast…? #lrnchat
08:59:16 pm PLS70: Q2) can learners learn at their own pace? Whether that be slow or fast learning? Why make everyone follow the same route? #lrnchat
08:59:20 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) Easily digested learning requires the right delivery method and resources, more dynamic and informal than traditional ILT #lrnchat
08:59:25 pm Quinnovator: @elearningguy and meaningful reflection #lrnchat
08:59:41 pm HollyJustice1: RT @marciamarcia: Slow=at the pace of life. No faster. No slower. #lrnchat
08:59:43 pm StephanieDaul: Slow learning takes time and is not an event.  That’s hard for some biz partners to understand #lrnchat
08:59:51 pm JaneBozarth: If performance really mattered that much to orgs, they wouldn’t have a first-in, first-out employee layoff policy. Just sayin’.  #lrnchat
09:00:07 pm Quinnovator: q2) cumulative effect of ‘event’ model dissipates quickly, cumulative effect of slow learning builds gradually #lrnchat
09:00:23 pm JD_Dillon: @PLS70 – Respect the learner and their knowledge/skills, give them options, resources, and accountability #lrnchat
09:00:24 pm PLS70: RT @JD_Dillon: Q2) Easily digested learning requires right delivery method & resources more dynamic & informal than traditional ILT #lrnchat
09:00:25 pm elearningguy: @Quinnovator Sounds like innovation to me. No blueprints available for prototypes.  #lrnchat
09:00:29 pm HollyJustice1: @stickylearning #lrnchat  Soup’s on slow simmer.
09:00:32 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: If performance really mattered to orgs, wouldn’t have a first-in, first-out employee layoff policy. Just sayin’ #lrnchat
09:00:33 pm jankenb2: Q2 I recognize SL is part of mastery learning + a spiral curriculum. But have you noticed how natural a strategy SL is to children? #lrnchat
09:00:39 pm reubentozman: Q2) slow learning is always there….it’s a moving target….that may only make sense to me #Lrnchat
09:00:39 pm Keener1111: Q2) can learners learn at their own pace? Whether that be slow or fast learning? Why make everyone follow the same route? #lrnchat
09:00:51 pm TheAirton: Q2) By the time they have eat in their first main dish they have forgotten about the moist succulent appetizer #lrnchat
09:01:02 pm JD_Dillon: RT @Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: If performance really mattered to orgs, wouldn’t have a first-in, first-out employee layoff policy. Just sayin’ #lrnchat
09:01:03 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @Quinnovator: q2) cumulative effect of ‘event’ model dissipates quickly, cumulative effect of slow learning builds gradually #lrnchat
09:01:07 pm sogarlene: Q2) Slow learning requires letting go of control a bit. Allow learner to learn vs force feed entire meals of content. #lrnchat #lrnchat
09:01:11 pm tmiket: @JD_Dillon delivery or discovery. Could be either push or pull right? #lrnchat
09:01:14 pm PLS70: RT @StephanieDaul: SL takes time & is not an event.  Thats hard for some biz partners 2 understand.  Academic partners too #lrnchat
09:01:21 pm Quinnovator: @jankenb2 doh!  took SL as Second Life, not Slow Learning!  mea culpa (*so* embarrassed!)  #lrnchat
09:01:23 pm elearningguy: @JD_Dillon What?? Learner control? Heresy!!! ;)  #lrnchat
09:01:28 pm tmiket: RT @Quinnovator: q2) cumulative effect of ‘event’ model dissipates quickly, cumulative effect of slow learning builds gradually #lrnchat
09:01:35 pm marciamarcia: Remind myself Knowing≠Learning. RT @stickylearning: Sometimes I just want to know things right now. #lrnchat
09:01:46 pm mizminh: RT @Keener1111: Q2) can learners learn at their own pace? Whether that be slow or fast learning? Why make everyone follow the same route? #lrnchat
09:01:50 pm Quinnovator: @elearningguy or “Quinnovation”😉 #lrnchat
09:02:04 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) I can’t shove the 15 learning objectives that executive leadership handed down to me into a bite-sized eLearning!!! #lrnchat
09:02:06 pm Keener1111: Q2 – ideally give learners a piece, and allow them to explore on their own, apply, come back together and share outcomes  #lrnchat
09:02:17 pm stickylearning: Q2 Orgs can’t tick a box and say Learning has been completed…next objective #lrnchat
09:02:27 pm ThomasStone: RT @Quinnovator: q2) tho’ slow learning is fast in the moment, but extends the relationship over time #lrnchat
09:02:27 pm Quinnovator: RT @chris_saeger: Q2] want to be instant expert. hated practicing scales in piano lessons #lrnchat < not the 10K hours to be expert?😉
09:02:40 pm JD_Dillon: @tmiket – Push the resources, pull the interest/responsibility #lrnchat
09:02:51 pm elearningguy: @Quinnovator Yes, Clark.  It’s all about you.😉 #lrnchat
09:02:57 pm cammybean: Slow learning is when we let ideas simmer, thoughts bubble, and better performance stew… #lrnchat
09:03:05 pm JimLundy: @marciamarcia @stickylearning #Justintime learning. Helicopter scene from the Matrix. #lrnchat
09:03:11 pm Quinnovator: RT @stickylearning: Q2 Orgs can’t tick a box and say Learning has been completed…next objective #lrnchat < well, not *immediately*😉
09:03:15 pm Plock2009: #lrnchat q2– Corp office culture is a land of “the quick and the dead” – learn it, do it quickly – or you’re out.
09:03:16 pm sogarlene: Q2) Not sure I agree that learners forget… slow learning includes application and practice – builds solid foundation. #lrnchat #lrnchat
09:03:40 pm jankenb2: I think an impt feature of SloL is how it allows the learner to compare/contrast similar, b/not duplicate events + build schema #lrnchat
09:03:47 pm cammybean: Sometimes I need to make frozen food for dinner, sometimes I want to take my time.   #lrnchat
09:03:59 pm marciamarcia: @chris_saeger My son is learning piano the “slow learning” way. No scales, rather bit by bit. It’s working well! #lrnchat
09:04:08 pm PLS70: I’m with @hollyjustice1 I’d rather an 8 hour learning day than 2 hours over four days.  Just sayin’ #lrnchat
09:04:25 pm belowit: RT @cammybean: Sometimes I need to make frozen food for dinner, sometimes I want to take my time.   #lrnchat
09:04:32 pm HollyJustice1: @Keener1111 RT Full day…I can hardly sit through a regular length movie! #lrnchat Short’s in. 5 min like Portlandia.
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09:04:34 pm chris_saeger: @Quinnovator exactly! #lrnchat
09:04:36 pm reubentozman: RT @cammybean: Slow learning is when we let ideas simmer, thoughts bubble, and better performance stew->not always the case #Lrnchat
09:04:41 pm tmiket: @elearningguy @jd_dillon learner control,is gen. better for experts than novices Amt of control depends on audience & topic I think #lrnchat
09:04:48 pm elearningguy: @sogarlene Learners do. It’s part of how the brain works, but forgetting and relearning can work together.  #lrnchat
09:04:49 pm cammybean: I’m just going to make cooking analogies all night here. Don’t mind me. #slowlearning  #lrnchat
09:05:15 pm sogarlene: q2) @stickylearning Spot on! Orgs want that checkbox that learning is completed – curse of the lms. Need new paradigm. #lrnchat #lrnchat
09:05:32 pm Plock2009: #lrnchat … And I find that to be a huge barrier to sound design
09:05:33 pm JaneBozarth: @cammybean You’re just stirring the pot. #lrnchat
09:05:40 pm JaneBozarth: @cammybean Too many cooks… #lrnchat
09:05:44 pm stickylearning: @cammybean Sounds like a recipe for success🙂 #lrnchat
09:05:58 pm AllisonAnderson: @cammybean You are making me hungry. My dinner is terrible. #Lrnchat
09:06:01 pm TheAirton: U work w/ me? RT @Plock2009: #lrnchat q2– Corp office culture is a land of “the quick and the dead” learn it, do it quickly or you’re out.
09:06:02 pm JaneBozarth: @cammybean we need to drop the learning by teaspoonfuls onto a greased cookie sheet. #lrnchat
09:06:04 pm HollyJustice1: @PLS70 #lrnchat My college offers Sat. whole day = 1 credit. Works for me. Done and over after you write a paper.  Some can’t take it.
09:06:06 pm sogarlene: Q2) @elearningguy Tell me more… forgetting and relearning #lrnchat #lrnchat
09:06:19 pm JD_Dillon: @tmiket @elearningguy – Agreed, based on learner experience/performance, push decreases/pull increases over time #lrnchat
09:06:23 pm Quinnovator: RT @AllisonAnderson: @cammybean You are making me hungry. #Lrnchat < me too!
09:06:26 pm JaneBozarth: @sogarlene “Curse of the LMS” = title of my next book, methinks. #lrnchat
09:06:27 pm reubentozman: RT @marciamarcia: Remind myself Knowing≠Learning. -> but you had to learn something before you knew it #Lrnchat
09:06:31 pm sourcePOV: Q2. Kids not constrained by scientific (prove it) method. Yet. Pre Epistemology. Thinking @StevenBJohnson calls SL a ‘slow hunch’? #lrnchat
09:06:50 pm JaneBozarth: @HollyJustice1 teaching isn’t learning. #lrnchat
09:06:51 pm chris_saeger: @marciamarcia no scales? Nice🙂 #lrnchat
09:06:59 pm Keener1111: RT @JaneBozarth: @cammybean we need to drop the learning by teaspoonfuls onto a greased cookie sheet. #lrnchat
09:07:05 pm JaneBozarth: @HollyJustice1 teaching doesn’t cause learning, no matter how many hours.  #lrnchat
09:07:05 pm PLS70: @HollyJustice1 I’m taking University courses the same way.  Every Sat for 12 weeks, 6 hours each time.  No problem.🙂 #lrnchat
09:07:21 pm jankenb2: @cammybean Context is key to judging SloL. There is a need for rapid practice 2 build automaticity w/intervals 2 allow 4 integrat  #lrnchat
09:07:33 pm tmiket: “@JaneBozarth: @cammybean we need to drop the learning by teaspoonfuls onto a greased cookie sheet. #lrnchat < and add some chocolate chips!
09:07:36 pm elearningguy: @sogarlene @willworklearn has great resources on spaced learning. He can articulate far better than I can #lrnchat
09:07:45 pm belowit: @pls70 Yeah but how much are you learning in that 8 hr chunk?  when does your brain shut down? #lrnchat
09:07:48 pm JaneBozarth: btw on the cookie sheet thing: Bon Appetit will always say you need parchment paper, but you don’t. #TrustMe #lrnchat
09:08:01 pm PLS70: @JaneBozarth I don’t know, Jane.  I teach and I learn something new every single day.😉 #lrnchat
09:08:09 pm HollyJustice1: Q2) #lrnchat Sometimes people value learning with space between. Time to try it for themselves.
09:08:17 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth but parchment paper really made our pizzas work #lrnchat
09:08:23 pm JaneBozarth: @tmiket couldn’t hurt.  #lrnchat
09:08:30 pm elearningguy: @Keener1111 Someone at #cstdcon used the “drip irrigation” analogy in a similar way #lrnchat
09:08:35 pm sourcePOV: Huge point. RT @sogarlene Q2 “Slow learning requires relaxing control. Allow learner to learn vs force feed entire meal” #lrnchat #ecosys
09:08:57 pm JaneBozarth: @PLS70 you’re implying causation. Likely not. #lrnchat
09:09:06 pm kherlig: RT @Quinnovator: q1) the “spray and pray”, “show up and throw up” content model does *not* work, developing people over time does #lrnchat
09:09:17 pm Keener1111: @PLS70  @HollyJustice1  That is slow learning – time to stop, reflect, and thing before next class #lrnchat
09:09:24 pm stickylearning: @HollyJustice1 Learning IS the space in between! #lrnchat
09:09:27 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator Wasn’t talking about pizza. was talking about cookies. Mr Contrary.  #lrnchat
09:09:34 pm reubentozman: Q2) I’m also gonna say that sometimes it doesn’t matter whether people learn, only that they achieve results #Lrnchat
09:09:53 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth and I’m talking about parchment paper. Your point is?   #lrnchat
09:09:55 pm sourcePOV: RT @cammybean “I’m going to make cooking analogies all night here” #slowlearning  #lrnchat .. np, as long as u share #cookies at end
09:09:56 pm RioPDX: Interesting subject because I’m developing a technical leadership dev track that follows a “slow learning” concept.   #Lrnchat
09:10:05 pm lrnchat: Q3. What would you need (that you don’t have now) to provide slow learning? #lrnchat
09:10:26 pm JaneBozarth: RT @reubentozman: Q2) Im also gonna say that sometimes it doesnt matter whether people learn, only that they achieve results #lrnchat
09:10:30 pm Keener1111: RT @reubentozman: Q2) Im also gonna say that sometimes it doesnt matter whether people learn, only that they achieve results #lrnchat
09:10:45 pm Quinnovator: @reubentozman performance in the moment’s part of it, but developing people over time *too* is the missed opportunity #Lrnchat
09:10:46 pm JaneBozarth: RT @rnchat Q3. What would you need (that you don’t have now) to provide slow learning?
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09:10:48 pm tmiket: RT @lrnchat: Q3. What would you need (that you don’t have now) to provide slow learning? #lrnchat
09:10:51 pm Keener1111: RT @lrnchat: Q3. What would you need (that you dont have now) to provide slow learning? #lrnchat
09:10:57 pm chris_saeger: RT @lrnchat: Q3. What would you need (that you dont have now) to provide slow learning? #lrnchat
09:10:59 pm elearningguy: RT @lrnchat: Q3. What would you need (that you dont have now) to provide slow learning? #lrnchat
09:11:03 pm StephanieDaul: RT @lrnchat: Q3. What would you need (that you dont have now) to provide slow learning? #lrnchat
09:11:18 pm jankenb2: @PLS70 What sort of metacognitive activity are you doing in the interval days btw class? I thnk that why intense/space/intense wrks #lrnchat
09:11:18 pm sourcePOV: RT @HollyJustice1 @PLS70 #lrnchat “My college offers SAT whole day = 1 credit. Works for me. Done and over after u write a paper”
09:11:19 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q3. What would you need (that you don’t have now) to provide slow learning? #lrnchat
09:11:23 pm JD_Dillon: Q3) Turn on the stove … aka influence the learning culture to accept the concept of slow, targeted, on-demand offerings #lrnchat
09:11:47 pm Keener1111: Q3) Leaders that are not set in their view of learning #lrnchat
09:11:49 pm PLS70: @Keener1111 I guess I didn’t look at it that way.  Had the choice 2 do it online for 6 mos or in class for 12 wks. Chose the latter #lrnchat
09:11:52 pm MaxImprovement: RT @TrDev: Can you suggest some guidelines to give to learners to help them use case methods more effectively?:… http://t.co/2TnfHsFJ #trdev #lrnchat
09:11:55 pm elearningguy: Q3) Time. Buy-in. Major leadership shift.  #lrnchat
09:11:59 pm AllisonAnderson: Q3) patience all around. Learners, leaders, designers… #lrnchat
09:12:18 pm AnnieintheSun: Q3. More time for practice #lrnchat
09:12:26 pm JD_Dillon: Q3) Need a better understanding of operational trends, attach quick bites of learning to relevant skill/knowledge gaps #lrnchat
09:12:29 pm StephanieDaul: Q3) The freedom to use tools like twitter, facebook…to help slow learning #lrnchat
09:12:29 pm belowit: Q3 Support from the top down. #lrnchat
09:12:31 pm Quinnovator: q3) a design process, an infrastructure, a mindset…. #lrnchat
09:12:32 pm tmiket: Q3 better connectedness #lrnchat
09:12:45 pm PLS70: @jankenb2 Honestly not a lot. Too busy teaching and being a Mom. Just get the assignments done, read the book & attend class. #lrnchat
09:12:48 pm JaneBozarth: …waiting for @quinnovator to say something just so I can contradict it…  #lrnchat
09:12:52 pm RioPDX: Q3) the willingness of stakeholders to break from tradition and the ADDIE model🙂 lol #Lrnchat
09:13:06 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: …waiting for @quinnovator to say something just so I can contradict it…  #lrnchat < no you’re not
09:13:23 pm reubentozman: @Quinnovator I said sometimes Clark🙂 I’d also argue that sometimes we care too much about learning fr learning sake #Lrnchat
09:13:25 pm chris_saeger: Q3) a better framework to structure the lrning #lrnchat
09:13:27 pm sourcePOV: A3. “Missing for #slowlearning !?” Time. #lrnchat
09:13:31 pm Quinnovator: RT @AllisonAnderson: Q3) patience all around. Learners, leaders, designers… #lrnchat
09:13:40 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator :-)  #lrnchat
09:13:48 pm elearningguy: Q3) I think it’s more of a mind-set change, at least, where I am now. We have the tools and materials. Just need the okie-dokie #lrnchat
09:13:53 pm PLS70: Q3) More flexibility in course design, longer semesters and mgmt with a sense of adventure #lrnchat
09:13:54 pm Quinnovator: RT @reubentozman: I’d also argue that sometimes we care too much about learning fr learning sake #Lrnchat < fully agreed!
09:14:01 pm Keener1111: Q3) Learners ready to learn, instead of “going through the motions” so they can say they’ve completed. #lrnchat
09:14:04 pm Quinnovator: RT @elearningguy: Q3) Time. Buy-in. Major leadership shift.  #lrnchat
09:14:07 pm JD_Dillon: Q3) A strong WIIFM to capture learner buy-in for shorter, more frequent training support, even when they don’t think they need it #lrnchat
09:14:15 pm StephanieDaul: RT @Quinnovator: RT @AllisonAnderson: Q3) patience all around. Learners, leaders, designers… #lrnchat
09:14:25 pm belowit: Q3: Time to follow up later rather than constantly going on to the next thing. #lrnchat
09:14:28 pm elearningguy: Welcome to the Argument Clinic, PhD edition. RT @JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator :-)  #lrnchat
09:14:30 pm tmiket: Q3 discipline to follow up and ability to manage that #lrnchat
09:14:33 pm HollyJustice1: Q3) Need a plan of action to provide slow learning or take it in.  #lrnchat
09:14:40 pm TheAirton: RT @belowit: Q3 Support from the top down. #lrnchat
09:14:46 pm ThomasStone: I think “slow learning” has negative connotations that will make it a hard sell to orgs. But “spaced chunks” not good either. #lrnchat
09:14:51 pm Keener1111: RT @Quinnovator: RT @reubentozman: Id also argue that sometimes we care too much about learning fr learning sake #Lrnchat #lrnchat
09:14:51 pm ebase: RT @AllisonAnderson: Q3) patience all around. Learners, leaders, designers. AND haste. Need both….. #lrnchat
09:14:57 pm PLS70: @Quinnovator @ JaneBozarth  Is this the Ministry of Arguments?😉 #lrnchat
09:15:01 pm elearningguy: RT @belowit: Q3: Time to follow up later rather than constantly going on to the next thing. #lrnchat
09:15:06 pm MMTingley: Holy moley, you are on Q3 already? I’m late, what’d I miss? #lrnchat
09:15:16 pm PLS70: RT @StephanieDaul: RT @Quinnovator: RT @AllisonAnderson: Q3) patience all around. Learners, leaders, designers… #lrnchat
09:15:22 pm AllisonAnderson: RT @tmiket: Q3 discipline to follow up and ability to manage that > yes! #lrnchat
09:15:29 pm JD_Dillon: Q3) operational stability rather than a constantly moving target #lrnchat
09:15:45 pm Keener1111: @ThomasStone I refer to it as a “Learning continuum” – seems to sell well #lrnchat
09:15:47 pm AllisonAnderson: RT @ebase: RT @Allison Q3) patience all around. Learners, leaders, designers. AND haste. Need both….. > indeed! #lrnchat
09:15:50 pm sogarlene: Q3) @PLS70 – how do we teach managers to have a sense of adventure?🙂 Sign me up for that leadership class! #lrnchat #lrnchat
09:15:57 pm JD_Dillon: @MMTingley – Just some cooking lessons #lrnchat
09:15:59 pm elearningguy: @MMTingley Ironically, slow learning.  #lrnchat
09:16:04 pm RioPDX: Leaders talk so much about being innovative & focus on user centered design but when it comes to learning they forget about it. #Lrnchat
09:16:37 pm belowit: RT @jd_dillon: Q3) operational stability rather than a constantly moving target #lrnchat >And how!
09:16:38 pm Quinnovator: RT @JD_Dillon: Q3) operational stability rather than a constantly moving target #lrnchat < hope not, needs to be flexible
09:16:50 pm JaneBozarth: RT @RioPDX: Leaders talk about being innovative & focus on user centered design but when it comes to learning they forget about it. #lrnchat
09:16:57 pm Keener1111: Q3) Good metrics in place to show value #lrnchat
09:17:02 pm elearningguy: @RioPDX I rarely had leaders like that.  #lrnchat
09:17:06 pm sogarlene: Q3) need evidence to support results of slow learning, maybe a good project for my Educational Research class. ha! #lrnchat #lrnchat
09:17:12 pm PLS70: @sogarlene: Q3) @PLS70 – how do we teach managers to have a sense of adventure?:) Sign me up for that leadership class! U & Me both #lrnchat
09:17:45 pm stickylearning: Q3 My current internet connection guarantees slow learning #lrnchat
09:17:56 pm jankenb2: Q3 Do corp learning models differ from ed? In ed goals are 1st agenda item 4 fast or slow learning. In corp is 80% knwldge suffice? #lrnchat
09:18:01 pm JaneBozarth: @quinnovator Does someone need a hug?  #lrnchat
09:18:08 pm HollyJustice1: I agree. Twitter leads to stories. @StephanieDaul RT Q3) The freedom to use tools like twitter, facebook…to help slow learning #lrnchat
09:18:14 pm JaneBozarth: RT @stickylearning: Q3 My current internet connection guarantees slow learning #lrnchat
09:18:23 pm elearningguy: RT @belowit: RT @jd_dillon: Q3) operational stability? Won’t happen. Evolve or get left behind. Life in perpetual Beta. HT @hjarche #lrnchat
09:18:26 pm RioPDX: We need to sell slow learning as a user centered design concept.  We need to sell it as a business benefit! #Lrnchat
09:18:32 pm Quinnovator: RT @Keener1111: Q3) Good metrics in place to show value #lrnchat < tie to performance change
09:18:39 pm TheAirton: Q3) The simple understanding that strong sound foundations make strong Developed Leaders and employees #lrnchat
09:18:47 pm MMTingley: Oh good, I’m hungry! RT @JD_Dillon: @MMTingley – Just some cooking lessons #lrnchat
09:18:47 pm elearningguy: Watch your wallet… RT @JaneBozarth: @quinnovator Does someone need a hug?  #lrnchat
09:19:18 pm JaneBozarth: @elearningguy ha #lrnchat
09:19:22 pm aenclade: RT @stickylearning: Q3 My current internet connection guarantees slow learning #lrnchat
09:19:44 pm stickylearning: @RioPDX but is selling slow learning a bit like selling the air we breathe? #lrnchat
09:19:55 pm Quinnovator: RT @elearningguy: Watch your wallet RT @JaneBozarth: @quinnovator Does someone need a hug? #lrnchat < scurrilous lies (or did I nab yours?)
09:19:56 pm JD_Dillon: @elearningguy @belowit @hjarche – It’s the difference between adapting to business needs and an org that can’t find an identity #lrnchat
09:19:57 pm urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q3. What would you need (that you don’t have now) to provide slow learning? #lrnchat
09:20:01 pm Keener1111: @Quinnovator Absolutely – show this, and the rest is easy… #lrnchat
09:20:10 pm kellyannb: @lrnchat Q3. You need an environment that focuses on the learning journey rather than the learning outcome (process not product)#lrnchat
09:20:18 pm JaneBozarth: Imma develop the Jell-O Shooter training method. Someone pick up some of the little cups? #JelloIsntCookingIsIt? #lrnchat
09:20:21 pm Quinnovator: RT @RioPDX: We need to sell slow learning as a user centered design concept.  We need to sell it as a business benefit! #Lrnchat
09:20:27 pm jankenb2: Q3 what role does agency hve in Slo L in the corp world? How 2 give credit and still encourage team work? Is p2p eval enough? #lrnchat
09:20:32 pm aenclade: .@sourcePOV @sogarlene I like that– “relaxing control” #lrnchat
09:20:38 pm rdeis: RT @Keener1111 @ThomasStone I refer to it as a “Learning continuum” – seems to sell well #lrnchat
09:20:41 pm Keener1111: RT @RioPDX: We need to sell slow learning as a user centered design concept.  We need to sell it as a business benefit! #lrnchat
09:20:47 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: @quinnovator Does someone need a hug?  #lrnchat < from an avatar? try anything once…
09:20:48 pm JaneBozarth: @stickylearning we need to stop trying to ‘sell’ so much and start showing. Solve a problem.  #lrnchat
09:21:05 pm HollyJustice1: RT @tmiket 
 Q3 discipline to follow up and ability to manage that #lrnchat
Yes, reasonable plans help.  I take on 2 much.
09:21:15 pm Plock2009: #lrnchat q3. Eliminate mgts perception that 80% mastery on a cr-ppy page turner is effective.
09:21:18 pm Quinnovator: q3) attitude to support a performance ecosystem, not command and control #lrnchat
09:21:19 pm MMTingley: RT @JaneBozarth: Imma develop the Jell-O Shooter training method. Someone pick up some of the little cups? #JelloIsntCookingIsIt? #lrnchat
09:21:33 pm elearningguy: @JaneBozarth Oh yeah, no possibility that would get ou of hand at night school.  #lrnchat
09:21:40 pm Quinnovator: RT @Plock2009: #lrnchat q3. Eliminate mgts perception that 80% mastery on a cr-ppy page turner is effective. < what he said
09:21:52 pm sourcePOV: lol RT @aenclade @stickylearning Q3 “My current internet connection guarantees slow learning” #lrnchat
09:22:07 pm Quinnovator: q3) need to have a culture of think|learn out loud #lrnchat
09:22:08 pm stickylearning: @JaneBozarth Yep, the proof is in the slowly cooked pudding #cookinganalogies #lrnchat
09:22:21 pm RioPDX: @stickylearning Yes and no.  As an ID it’s my job to educate mgnt about the business benefit because they don’t value anything else #Lrnchat
09:22:24 pm urbie: Q3 to enable slow (thinking) learning need to reduce reflex learning activities that favor intuition. crit. thinking in 1/4 time. #lrnchat
09:22:26 pm JD_Dillon: RT @Quinnovator: RT @Plock2009: #lrnchat q3. Eliminate mgts perception that 80% mastery on a cr-ppy page turner is effective. < what he said
09:22:29 pm JaneBozarth: @MMTingley Melissa! How’ve you been?  #lrnchat
09:22:31 pm rdeis: RT @RioPDX We need to sell slow learning as a user centered design concept. We need to sell it as a business benefit! #Lrnchat
09:23:05 pm Quinnovator: q3) need to value reflection #lrnchat
09:23:25 pm tmiket: RT @JaneBozarth: @stickylearning we need to stop trying to ‘sell’ so much and start showing. Solve a problem.  #lrnchat
09:23:33 pm sogarlene: Q3) @ all of you!!! if I gain 10 pounds from this #lrnchat I’m gonna be really mad! pudding, pizza, stew…
 #lrnchat
09:23:53 pm Keener1111: RT @Quinnovator: q3) need to value reflection #lrnchat
09:24:01 pm JaneBozarth: That. RT @Plock2009: #lrnchat q3. Eliminate mgts perception that 80% mastery on a cr-ppy page turner is effective.  #lrnchat
09:24:10 pm TheAirton: Here, here RT @Quinnovator: q3) attitude to support a performance ecosystem, not command and control #lrnchat
09:24:14 pm JaneBozarth: @sogarlene jello, cookies… #lrnchat
09:24:16 pm aenclade: check out the convo about “slow learning” on #lrnchat happening now. sounds like unschooling in many ways
09:24:39 pm HollyJustice1: @kellyannb #lrnchat Q3) So enjoy the journey U will learn?  RT You … focus on the learning journey …(process not product).
09:24:45 pm kellyannb: Q2# I think the problem isn’t the concept but the label. We live in a world where slow isn’t good. #lrnchat
09:24:47 pm Quinnovator: Jane’s stewing, I’m cooking, the kitchen’s getting hot in here! When’s dinner? #lrnchat
09:25:03 pm lrnchat: Q4. What would keep you from using a slow approach to make learning more effective? #lrnchat
09:25:06 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator & find ways to encourage/build time for reflection,not just talk about it . Good blogging activities can support that #lrnchat
09:25:14 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q4. What would keep you from using a slow approach to make learning more effective? #lrnchat
09:25:16 pm KoreenOlbrish: #lrnchat have to run…slowly🙂 my fav slowism: “Behold the turtle. He makes progress by sticking out his neck.”
09:25:28 pm Keener1111: RT @JaneBozarth: @stickylearning the core of selling is showing how to solve the problem #lrnchat
09:25:30 pm PLS70: @Quinnovator Who want to get marinated??? #lrnchat
09:25:32 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator nu uh i”m baking and jelling. cammy’s the one w the crock pot #lrnchat
09:25:35 pm elearningguy: @Quinnovator I dunno, ask @cammybean #lrnchat
09:25:49 pm cammybean: I’m back. Had to go eat something with all this cooking talk. #notreally  #lrnchat
09:25:52 pm urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q4. What would keep you from using a slow approach to make learning more effective? #lrnchat
09:25:55 pm Quinnovator: @PLS70 I’m working on it, a fine beer marinade😉 #lrnchat
09:25:56 pm JaneBozarth: lrnchat Q4. What would keep you from using a slow approach to make learning more effective?
 #lrnchat
09:25:57 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) Failure of management to understand the time required to achieve and importance of mastery #lrnchat
09:26:11 pm tmiket: RT @lrnchat: Q4. What would keep you from using a slow approach to make learning more effective? #lrnchat
09:26:28 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) An inappropriate org focus on the amount of training delivered rather than the impact there of #lrnchat
09:26:31 pm PLS70: Q4) interest and engagement of students.  Don’t want to fight an uphill battle more than I already do. #lrnchat
09:26:40 pm reubentozman: Good night. I’m outta here now that @cammybean is back #Lrnchat
09:26:44 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth exactly! build reflection by having leaders think & learn out loud: blogging  #lrnchat
09:26:52 pm cammybean: Q4) Sometimes the org must have quick answers and fast food to feed the need.   #lrnchat
09:26:58 pm jankenb2: Q3 In ed what we need to advance (yes) to Slo L is abandonment of inflex standards…pre-def obj. w/o relationship to community.  #lrnchat
09:26:58 pm belowit: Q4: Ummm….my boss. #lrnchat
09:27:04 pm Keener1111: RT @urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q4. What would keep you from using a slow approach to make learning more effective? #lrnchat
09:27:05 pm StephanieDaul: RT @JD_Dillon: Q4) An inappropriate org focus on the amount of training delivered rather than the impact there of #lrnchat
09:27:14 pm elearningguy: Q4) I’m trying to distinguish this from Q3)  #lrnchat
09:27:23 pm Plock2009: RT @aenclade: check out the convo about “slow learning” on #lrnchat happening now. sounds like unschooling in many ways
09:27:23 pm stickylearning: Q4 A lack of long-term business strategy linked to learning strategies #lrnchat
09:27:35 pm Quinnovator: q4) status quo, management ignorance, learner apathy, preventive culture #lrnchat
09:27:37 pm PLS70: @Quinnovator Is it possible to marinate in chocolate? I’m allergic to alcohol. Just ask @elearningguy😦 sucks to be me #lrnchat
09:27:40 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) It’s new and unfamiliar, therefore harder to sell to those who want objective “proof” of impact before change #lrnchat
09:27:41 pm Keener1111: RT @JD_Dillon: Q4) An inappropriate org focus on the amount of training delivered rather than the impact there of #lrnchat
09:27:42 pm starsandfrogs: Accepting benefit/ROI of slow is hard b/c of entrenched traditions RT @RioPDX: need to sell slow learning …as a business benefit! #Lrnchat
09:27:55 pm StephanieDaul: RT @Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth exactly! build reflection by having leaders think & learn out loud: blogging  #lrnchat
09:27:56 pm sogarlene: Q4) What if we build slow learning for leaders first? As they experience it they may believe in it.  #lrnchat
09:28:03 pm Quinnovator: RT @stickylearning: Q4 A lack of long-term business strategy linked to learning strategies #lrnchat
09:28:10 pm Plock2009: RT @lrnchat: Q4. What would keep you from using a slow approach to make learning more effective? #lrnchat
09:28:17 pm cammybean: @reubentozman What? Do I smell? Like stew? #lrnchat
09:28:17 pm MMTingley: Busy, happy, hungry😉 RT @JaneBozarth: @MMTingley Melissa! Howve you been?  #lrnchat
09:28:24 pm Quinnovator: RT @JD_Dillon: Q4) An inappropriate org focus on the amount of training delivered rather than the impact there of #lrnchat
09:28:25 pm Keener1111: RT @PLS70: Q4) interest and engagement of students.  Dont want to fight an uphill battle more than I already do. #lrnchat
09:28:31 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) Requirements to formally schedule all training into 30-minute blocks #lrnchat
09:28:33 pm Keener1111: RT @stickylearning: Q4 A lack of long-term business strategy linked to learning strategies #lrnchat
09:28:36 pm rdeis: Some of the best slow learning RT @StephanieDaul Q3) The freedom to use tools like twitter, facebook…to help slow learning >  #lrnchat
09:28:39 pm tmiket: Q4 usual mode of being reactionary instead of proactive #lrnchat
09:28:39 pm HollyJustice1: @aenclade #lrnchat We love what we do. http://t.co/wdWqB7UK
09:28:45 pm jankenb2: Q4 Pressure from audience and/or customer. The community is very clear on what schools produce, SloL may not “fit” in that vision. #lrnchat
09:28:45 pm JaneBozarth: @elearningguy lather, rinse,repeat. Oh, wait. Wrong metaphor. #lrnchat
09:28:54 pm elearningguy: @sogarlene Then they will keep the secret to themselves.😉 #lrnchat
09:29:05 pm sourcePOV: RT @JaneBozarth Q4 “What would keep u from using a slow learning approach to make learning more effective?” Deadlines #lrnchat
09:29:09 pm cammybean: Experience can be the best teacher…slow learning at work. But sometimes we need to cut some corners to get quicker results. #lrnchat
09:29:15 pm Quinnovator: @elearningguy think Q3 is about elements needed, this is about barriers (can see the overlap) #lrnchat
09:29:38 pm JaneBozarth: Slow? Snippets? Use teh Twittah for reflection questions http://t.co/am6pSJvs  #lrnchat
09:29:38 pm PLS70: @jankenb2 Exactly #lrnchat
09:29:39 pm stickylearning: Q4 ‘Training’ programs driven by panic #lrnchat
09:29:41 pm kellyannb: #Q4 As an informal learning specialist this is what I do. The challenge is getting others to see the value in slow learning #lrnchat
09:29:45 pm Quinnovator: @cammybean yes, but couple performance support *with* learning, not separate #lrnchat
09:29:47 pm cammybean: RT @JD_Dillon: Q4) Requirements to formally schedule all training into 30-minute blocks > Think call center training! #lrnchat
09:29:55 pm sogarlene: Q4) @rdeis Must get org to unblock twitter, facebook… first. doh! #lrnchat
09:30:08 pm belowit: RT @tmiket: Q4 usual mode of being reactionary instead of proactive #lrnchat
09:30:14 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q4 i think story is a major component of slow learning .. “telling” as training has a negative stigma in corp. education.
09:30:17 pm cammybean: My grandmother used to follow the “dump and pray” method of cooking. Is that like slow learning? #lrnchat
09:30:20 pm Keener1111: RT @stickylearning: Q4 Training programs driven by panic #lrnchat
09:30:27 pm rpickett77: @sourcePOV @JaneBozarth what’s a ‘slow learning’ approach?  #lrnchat
09:30:31 pm elearningguy: @Quinnovator Thanks. Q4) Institutional inertia is the big barrier where I am.  #lrnchat
09:30:34 pm HollyJustice1: @sogarlene #lrnchat Soup is good food. No sugar for me either; sleepy time.
09:30:36 pm Quinnovator: q4) Gloria Gery talked about ability to develop learners as well as support performance, but have yet to see in practice! #lrnchat
09:30:37 pm RioPDX: RT @stickylearning: Q4 Training programs driven by panic #Lrnchat
09:30:47 pm stickylearning: RT @Quinnovator: @cammybean yes, but couple performance support *with* learning, not separate #lrnchat
09:31:21 pm JaneBozarth: @rpickett77 see prior conversation here tonight  #lrnchat
09:31:38 pm cammybean: q4. Barriers to slow learning = our Mickie D’s culture. Or Veruca Salt: “I want behavior change and I want it now.” #lrnchat
09:31:44 pm Keener1111: RT @stickylearning: RT @Quinnovator: @cammybean yes, but couple performance support *with* learning, not separate #lrnchat
09:31:46 pm jankenb2: Q4 teaming teaching is dependent on coordinated curriculum stops. SloL may not fit in with the yearly schedule of learning goals.  #lrnchat
09:31:56 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) The words “I need all my people to be able to do this in less than two hours, and add a multiple choice test.” #lrnchat
09:31:57 pm mizminh: what is the relationship between the volume of content & the slowness of learning? less is slower? #lrnchat
09:32:02 pm sourcePOV: @JaneBozarth @marciamarcia sorry to tweet-in unannounced. Arrived very late. Marinating. Ok, done. I really need to be here #lrnchat
09:32:34 pm belowit: RT @cammybean: q4. Barriers to slow learning = our Mickie D’s culture. Or Veruca Salt: “I want behavior change and I want it now.” #lrnchat
09:32:43 pm PLS70: Q4 for students to get anything but distraction from SoMe, they need 2 B very self-directed. Doesn’t happen much in post-secondary #lrnchat
09:32:45 pm JaneBozarth: @sourcePOV hi Chris. Want we should slow down? #lrnchat
09:33:00 pm tmiket: Q4 a lack of taking responsibility for your own learning & ‘waiting to be spoon fed’ #lrnchat
09:33:53 pm Keener1111: RT @tmiket: Q4 a lack of taking responsibility for your own learning & waiting to be spoon fed – sad but true. #lrnchat
09:33:57 pm Quinnovator: @PLS70 marinate in whatever *reflects* your inclination…  (I’m all about the pun😉 #lrnchat
09:33:59 pm PLS70: RT @tmiket: Q4 a lack of taking responsibility for your own learning & waiting to be spoon fed. Do you teach in Academia? ;o) #lrnchat
09:34:00 pm sogarlene: Q4) @JD_Dillon If only they said “be able to do”! We always get “be able to know”.  #lrnchat
09:34:08 pm MMTingley: Q4) hard when you have little time to devote to learning / self-development. Tight schedules & heavy workload shift priorities #lrnchat
09:34:10 pm cammybean: Q4) Barrier to slow learning = boring jobs that people really don’t want to have to learn how to do… #lrnchat
09:34:20 pm Quinnovator: RT @cammybean: Q4) Barrier to slow learning = boring jobs that people really don’t want to have to learn how to do… #lrnchat
09:34:30 pm JD_Dillon: RT @Keener1111: RT @tmiket: Q4 a lack of taking responsibility for your own learning & waiting to be spoon fed – sad but true. #lrnchat
09:34:51 pm elearningguy: RT @tmiket: Q4 a lack of taking responsibility for yr own learning. @lisamcantrell: provide sprt while not removing responsibility #lrnchat
09:34:58 pm rdeis: @sogarlene Q4) I agree about getting it unblocked. #lrnchat
09:35:11 pm sourcePOV: RT @cammybean Q4. Barriers to Slow Learning: our McD’s culture. Verucka: “I want behavior change & I want it now” #silverbullet #lrnchat
09:35:23 pm tmiket: @PLS70 nope..good old’ corporate America😎 #lrnchat
09:35:24 pm Quinnovator: q4) probably need a way to demonstrate the overall benefit of the approach #lrnchat
09:35:29 pm mizminh: RT @cammybean: Q4) Barrier to slow learning = boring jobs that people really don’t want to have to learn how to do… #lrnchat
09:36:02 pm elearningguy: RT @rdeis: @sogarlene Q4) I agree about getting it unblocked. | Yes but there are internal alternatives like Yammer #lrnchat
09:36:12 pm PLS70: @tmiket Sad to know spoon-feed-me attitude is virulent there, too. #lrnchat
09:36:28 pm elearningguy: @Quinnovator …and that takes time.  #lrnchat
09:36:28 pm StephanieDaul: Need to leave early…thanks for a good lrnchat #lrnchat
09:36:29 pm Keener1111: @MMTingley Need to make time for this or my brain seems to turn to mush  #lrnchat
09:36:34 pm JD_Dillon: @sourcePOV @cammybean – add “and these are the ingredients I want” #lrnchat
09:36:36 pm AllisonAnderson: RT @Quinnovator: q4) probably need a way to demonstrate the overall benefit of the approach > so proof before pilot. #lrnchat
09:36:46 pm Quinnovator: q4) a culture that believes in short-term outcomes, not long term success #Lrnchat
09:36:49 pm starsandfrogs: Q4 Teaching speed need not be a requirement of efficacy & overcoming fear slow is detrimental. Teach the ROI of slow. #lrnchat
09:37:10 pm kellyannb: RT @belowit: RT @cammybean: q4. Barriers to slow learning = our Mickie D’s culture. Or Veruca Salt: “I want behavior change and I want it now.” #lrnchat
09:37:15 pm PLS70: How do you police their behaviour on FB, Twitter, etc w/o policing? Seems naive to think they won’t use it for the wrong reasons. #lrnchat
09:37:19 pm Quinnovator: @AllisonAnderson maybe conceptual argument for value of pilot? #lrnchat
09:37:21 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q4 this is the sort of question we really need a member of our T POP to answer. I think we’re too down on job design & motivation.
09:37:32 pm Keener1111: @cammybeanre boring jobs – slow learning can help re-engage #lrnchat
09:37:36 pm Quinnovator: @urbie T POP? #lrnchat
09:37:55 pm urbie: @Quinnovator #lrnchat T POP = Target Population (of learners)
09:37:57 pm JaneBozarth: “Teach less, not faster.” ~Susan Boyd #lrnchat
09:37:58 pm sogarlene: Q4) Barrier – our default method = we do what we know and so many people experience the 8-hour training class, not slow learning. #lrnchat
09:38:00 pm belowit: RT @quinnovator: q4) a culture that believes in short-term outcomes, not long term success #Lrnchat
09:38:21 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator i want my nickname to be T Pop.
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09:38:23 pm JD_Dillon: @PLS70 – Choose the right social tools, introduce a use policy, and let go – they own their behavior #lrnchat
09:38:23 pm tmiket: @PLS70 most of them do come from acedemia first😎 #lrnchat
09:38:27 pm Quinnovator: @Keener1111 @cammybean well, demonstrating interest in value of long-term development could be a culture changer… #lrnchat
09:38:36 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator Corgi is nicknamed T-Bone.  #lrnchat
09:38:49 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator i want my nickname to be T Pop.  #lrnchat < we can make that happen…
09:39:32 pm PLS70: @tmiket Yeah…sorry about that, but it’s not our fault.  Blame high school! #lrnchat
09:40:03 pm lrnchat: Q5. What would you still want people to learn fast? #lrnchat
09:40:07 pm sourcePOV: RT @Quinnovator Q4. SL Barriers. “A culture that believes in (& rewards) short term outcomes, not long term success” #lrnchat
09:40:10 pm Quinnovator: reckon there’s a virtuous relationship between PLE and slow learning #lrnchat
09:40:16 pm starsandfrogs: Patience and slow is hard when things are not going right. Panic In = Panic Out  #lrnchat
09:40:22 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q5. What would you still want people to learn fast? #lrnchat
09:40:37 pm Quinnovator: q5) how to adopt slow learning😉 #lrnchat
09:40:40 pm jankenb2: @tmiket  See Dweck T of Mindset+learner motivation http://t.co/3D7MKIip  Lrners R increm=flex or entity=fixed #lrnchat
09:40:45 pm Keener1111: RT @lrnchat: Q5. What would you still want people to learn fast? #lrnchat
09:40:59 pm tmiket: “@lrnchat: Q5. What would you still want people to learn fast? #lrnchat
09:41:00 pm ZaraLynnKing: RT @lrnchat: Q5. What would you still want people to learn fast? #lrnchat
09:41:00 pm JD_Dillon: Q5) Business change, compliance topics, essential job skills #lrnchat
09:41:12 pm urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q5. What would you still want people to learn fast? #lrnchat
09:41:21 pm belowit: Gotta go.  Thx for the great #lrnchat!
09:41:22 pm Keener1111: RT @Quinnovator: q5) how to adopt slow learning😉 #lrnchat
09:41:28 pm MMTingley: @PLS70 set guidelines, trust good behavior. Follow if necessary. #lrnchat
09:41:28 pm HollyJustice1: Q5) Fast learning – Things important to safety like leave the bldg when fire alarm goes off! #lrnchat
09:41:33 pm cammybean: RT @Quinnovator: q5) how to adopt slow learning😉 #lrnchat
09:41:40 pm Keener1111: RT @JD_Dillon: Q5) Business change, compliance topics, essential job skills #lrnchat
09:41:46 pm PLS70: Q5) Study habits, technological abilities, anything that facilitates learning – fast, slow or otherwise. #lrnchat
09:41:50 pm sogarlene: Q5) Building exit route in case of emergency?  #lrnchat
09:41:52 pm kellyannb: @PLS70 I don’t think you have to police their use of social media. Let them effectively use their networks for learning.

 #lrnchat
09:41:54 pm elearningguy: Q5) basic search skills?  #lrnchat
09:42:01 pm Quinnovator: q5) how to mix performance support and long-term development #lrnchat
09:42:06 pm cammybean: @belowit Bye!
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09:42:17 pm Quinnovator: RT @elearningguy: Q5) basic search skills?  #lrnchat < yeah, becoming better learners
09:42:19 pm JD_Dillon: RT @PLS70: Q5) Study habits, technological abilities, anything that facilitates learning – fast, slow or otherwise. #lrnchat
09:42:31 pm kellyannb: Q5  I don’t think its really an issue of fast and slow learning, more an issue of formal vs informal learning #lrnchat
09:42:32 pm Quinnovator: RT @PLS70: Q5) Study habits, technological abilities, anything that facilitates learning – fast, slow or otherwise. #lrnchat
09:42:41 pm tmiket: @jankenb2 I’ve read Dweck Great stuff! Should be req’d reading for every one! #lrnchat
09:42:41 pm TheAirton: Gotta go everyone! Last #lrnchat for me so a Merry Christmas & New Year. 1 last drink/toast for our friend #TerranceWing
09:42:42 pm cammybean: q5) learn fast = how to find the info you need when you need it to do your job. #lrnchat
09:42:43 pm jankenb2: Q5 Core content in domain, basic knowledge required to build abstract thinking and engage in Prob Solving. Protocals 4 teaming well #lrnchat
09:42:56 pm PLS70: @MMTingley But to follow if necessary, you need to discover the problem, which requires policing. #lrnchat
09:43:05 pm Quinnovator: RT @sogarlene: Q5) Building exit route in case of emergency?  #lrnchat sounds like a performance support situation!
09:43:44 pm tmiket: Q5 we should learn from mistakes quickly #lrnchat
09:43:46 pm sogarlene: Q5) When I think learn fast, it is really more awareness. Stuff at high level, where to find resources… that can be fast learning #lrnchat
09:43:50 pm AllisonAnderson: Q5. What would you still want people to learn fast? > how to learn Where to find…. And perhaps health & safety topics. #Lrnchat
09:43:52 pm elearningguy: Q5) Anything largely repetitive and static. Should be a candidate for fast learning.  #lrnchat
09:43:59 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q5 i’d like them to learn how to be confident enough to apply what they learn as soon as they get out of a training mode.
09:44:03 pm RioPDX: Q5)Safety policies, essential tool use, and probably “transactive memory” aids. #Lrnchat
09:44:17 pm PLS70: Q5)  Well, if you’re learning how to defuse bombs…  #lrnchat
09:44:34 pm cammybean: Thanks for a fun conversation! Gotta run :)  #lrnchat
09:44:43 pm Keener1111: RT @elearningguy: Q5) Anything largely repetitive and static. Should be a candidate for fast learning.  #lrnchat
09:44:59 pm kellyannb: Things that must be done by rote are fine for fast learning Thats about it #lrnchat
09:45:02 pm sogarlene: Q5 @Qunnovator I’m a fan of performance support. Rather know how to find it than store it in my brain if I don’t use it regularly. #lrnchat
09:45:05 pm chris_saeger: Q4) think of what readers did for cigar rollers engementtgaage #lrnchat
09:45:28 pm MMTingley: @PLS70 If you R K-12 guidelines should suggest that parents follow/friend their kids. Ppl talk, stuff comes out. #lrnchat
09:45:29 pm Quinnovator: RT @tmiket: Q5 we should learn from mistakes quickly #lrnchat
09:45:29 pm kellyannb: @PLS70 even diffusing a bomb takes some level of unconscious competence to survive #lrnchat
09:45:33 pm elearningguy: @cammybean Wait! Where are our cookies?? #lrnchat
09:45:45 pm Quinnovator: q5) how to fail fast #lrnchat
09:45:52 pm MMTingley: Q5 @Qunnovator Im a fan of performance support. Rather know how to find it than store it in my brain if I dont use it regularly. #lrnchat
09:46:10 pm Quinnovator: RT @elearningguy: Q5) Anything largely repetitive and static. Should be a candidate for fast learning.  #lrnchat < or automation
09:46:23 pm kellyannb: I think of it like a dirt path that eventually becomes a paved road the more its used
 #lrnchat
09:46:23 pm Quinnovator: RT @urbie: #lrnchat Q5 like them to learn how to be confident enough to apply what they learn as soon as they get out of a training mode.
09:46:24 pm AllisonAnderson: with @riopdx here in the same room…. Thinking alike as usual… Hate it when the spouse steals my thoughts. #Lrnchat
09:46:43 pm starsandfrogs: Willingness to experiment w/ what is learned. RT @lrnchat: Q5. What would you still want people to learn fast? #lrnchat
09:46:51 pm ThomasStone: Kinda confusing. By slow we’ve been mostly meaning spaced and small chunks, so “fast” we now mean opposite of both? #lrnchat
09:46:55 pm HollyJustice1: Make them use it with U. Keep ’em active. RT @PLS70 How do you police their behaviour on FB, Twitter, etc w/o policing?  #lrnchat
09:46:59 pm AllisonAnderson: RT @Quinnovator: q5) how to fail fast (insert 100 !!!! Marks) #Lrnchat
09:47:05 pm RioPDX: Q5) but really when it comes down to it, the biz, objectives, content and audience will drive that decision.  That’s the ID role! #Lrnchat
09:47:07 pm MMTingley: @PLS70 MA law hold schools responsible for FB bullying, even tho it didn’t happen on campus. Incentive to pay attention! #lrnchat
09:47:18 pm sogarlene: Q5) @elearningguy  haven’t been able to get yammer. In slow culture so they should like slow learning, eh? If we can get them there #lrnchat
09:47:25 pm Quinnovator: @ThomasStone the interventions are quick, the development over time is slow #lrnchat
09:47:30 pm ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat learn to access training fast
09:47:39 pm TheatreBrian: @AllisonAnderson What is #Lrnchat
09:47:50 pm jankenb2: Q5 Vocab to communicate w/in the comminity. Rapid learning confidence soars when learner can access insider knowledge. #lrnchat
09:47:51 pm elearningguy: @AllisonAnderson like me and @pls70 #lrnchat
09:48:00 pm Quinnovator: q5) how to learn from mistakes (and share the lesson) #lrnchat
09:48:00 pm urbie: #lrnchat might be off topic but awesome book for learning designers, Kahneman’s Thinking Fast and Slow http://t.co/C5t0rf1h
09:48:03 pm Plock2009: #lrnchat –q5. How to read/ navigate/ access perf support, job-aid, quick ref cards.
09:48:12 pm Quinnovator: RT @Plock2009: #lrnchat –q5. How to read/ navigate/ access perf support, job-aid, quick ref cards.
09:48:39 pm kellyannb: @urbie thanks for the great resource #lrnchat
09:48:42 pm PLS70: @MMTingley Didn’t mean bullying per se.  My students have access to FB while I’m teaching in comp lab.  It’s a distraction. #lrnchat
09:48:50 pm ZaraLynnKing: RT @Quinnovator: q5) how to learn from mistakes (and share the lesson) #lrnchat
09:49:03 pm HollyJustice1: Stories help! @cammybean RT Q4) Barrier to slow learning = boring jobs that people really don’t want to have to learn how to do… #lrnchat
09:49:36 pm urbie: #lrnchat constructive cognitive learning baby
09:49:44 pm chris_saeger: Excuse my typing tonight lrning to use this tablet ;- #lrnchat
09:49:48 pm Keener1111: RT @Quinnovator: q5) how to learn from mistakes (and share the lesson) #lrnchat
09:49:59 pm PLS70: ..they think they can surf and listen/participate/be engaged.  They can’t. #lrnchat
09:50:32 pm JaneBozarth: @PLS70 i can #lrnchat
09:50:33 pm AllisonAnderson: Gotta sign off. Allison in PDX, Learning Innovation PM at Intel. Happy lrng evry1. Bon Appetit!  #Lrnchat
09:50:36 pm ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat lrn to quickly ask for help
09:50:41 pm elearningguy: @urbie Thanks!  Will check out that book.  #lrnchat
09:50:43 pm odguru: RT @JaneBozarth: @stickylearning we need to stop trying to ‘sell’ so much and start showing. Solve a problem.  #lrnchat
09:50:57 pm kellyannb: @PLS70 @MMTingley research from MacArthur Foundation around ’04 on informal delphi groups that really applies to social media #lrnchat
09:50:58 pm Quinnovator: RT @ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat learn to access training fast < and other resources, when needed
09:51:00 pm Keener1111: RT @PLS70: ..they think they can surf and listen/participate/be engaged.  They cant. #lrnchat
09:51:00 pm jankenb2: @urbie I just finished Kahneman’s book and yes, it is related to Q5. One point is that we are inaccurate when applying logic. #lrnchat
09:51:03 pm RioPDX: Signing out! Good night, this is Rio from Portland and I’m an lead instructional designer. #Lrnchat
09:51:09 pm Plock2009: RT @jankenb2: Q5 Vocab to communicate w/in the comminity. Rapid learning confidence soars when learner can access insider knowledge. #lrnchat
09:52:04 pm urbie: @jankenb2 #lrnchat i know .. i got so many of the questions in the book wrong .. stinkin’ intuition..
09:52:19 pm MMTingley: @PLS70 Heh. Walk the classroom. Integrate SoMe as reward? #lrnchat
09:52:47 pm sogarlene: Q5) @jankenb2 applying logic is highly illogical #lrnchat
09:52:52 pm ZaraLynnKing: @Quinnovator and use as a resource #lrnchat
09:53:16 pm jankenb2: Q5 According to Kahneman, we R overconfident in R ability to apply logic in prbl setting.  We short cut and therefore make errors.  #lrnchat
09:53:29 pm ken_homer: RT @JaneBozarth: “Teach less, not faster.” ~Susan Boyd #lrnchat
09:53:40 pm PLS70: @MMTingley I do.  Expectations for the 2 hour lab are more than reasonable. When work is done, they can surf.  But… #lrnchat
09:53:58 pm elearningguy: LLAP. RT @sogarlene: Q5) @jankenb2 applying logic is highly illogical #lrnchat
09:54:02 pm jankenb2: Q5 What is the compliment of logic? Intuition? Emotion? Guess?  #lrnchat
09:54:06 pm PLS70: …most don’t have ability to delay gratification long enough to get work done first. Want reward before the work. #lrnchat
09:54:11 pm Keener1111: RT @sogarlene: Q5) @jankenb2 applying logic is highly illogical #lrnchat
09:54:25 pm kellyannb: @MMTingley @PLS70 use tweetchat to deliver content to them just like #lrnchat is delivering content to us #lrnchat
09:54:51 pm MMTingley: @PLS70 Introduce to Twitter. have up on 2nd wall and have students tweet as they are learning – like taking notes🙂 #lrnchat
09:55:02 pm lrnchat: Qwrap. Time is almost up. Please reintroduce yourself. Share links, requests & shameless plugs. #lrnchat
09:55:06 pm HollyJustice1: I agree. SW training is very sequential 2.  RT @PLS70 ..they think they can surf and listen/participate/be engaged. They can’t. #lrnchat
09:55:12 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap. Time is almost up. Please reintroduce yourself. Share links, requests & shameless plugs. #lrnchat < that time already?
09:55:35 pm jankenb2: Q5 is applying logic to restrictive? Does being over analytical stifle creativity and hence invention?  #lrnchat
09:55:41 pm PLS70: @kellyannb Great idea – but what about those that don’t have access to internet at home or have a cell?  #lrnchat
09:55:50 pm Quinnovator: thanks to new and returning #lrnchat participants for another fabulous (fast) learning session
09:55:58 pm elearningguy: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap. Time is almost up. Please reintroduce yourself. Share links, requests & shameless plugs. #lrnchat
09:56:17 pm ken_homer: RT @JaneBozarth: If performance really mattered that much to orgs, they wouldn’t have a first-in, first-out employee layoff policy. Just sayin’.  #lrnchat
09:56:25 pm jankenb2: JENNY ANKENBAUER, ANKARA TURKEY. ELL INSTRUCTOR. Hi all. Thanks for the fun.  #lrnchat
09:56:42 pm kellyannb: @PLS70 get a local cell phone company like cricket to partner with your school #lrnchat
09:57:04 pm PLS70: Qwrap) Patti Sheppard DW to @elearningguy College Prof and lrnchat n00b #lrnchat
09:57:09 pm chris_saeger: In roanoke va learning at my leisure and practicing with my tablet #lrnchat
09:57:18 pm ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat better late than never zara hootlearning
09:57:34 pm elearningguy: Qwrap) Mark Sheppard, learning geek, DH to @pls70. Whitby, ON  Blog at http://t.co/aTFCpAGd.  #lrnchat
09:57:35 pm Keener1111: Wow – just looked at the clock – that went by quickly.  Christine Keene #lrnchat
09:57:55 pm adaptivecoach: RT @JaneBozarth: If performance really mattered that much to orgs, they wouldn’t have a first-in, first-out employee layoff policy. Just sayin’.  #lrnchat
09:57:55 pm HollyJustice1: Qwrap #lrnchat I’ve missed U! Will join again soon. Holly from Portland OR E-learning, volunteering, college at night; all good stuff.
09:57:58 pm PLS70: @kellyannb Awesome idea.  Thx #lrnchat
09:58:05 pm tmiket: “@Quinnovator: thanks to new and returning #lrnchat participants for another fabulous (fast) learning session” < yes what he said!
09:58:07 pm sogarlene: Qwrap)  Looking for short 5 minute or less videos on manager’s role in learning transfer for our managers to watch. #lrnchat
09:58:11 pm JaneBozarth: Headed to #TK12 next month. You comin’?  #lrnchat
09:58:24 pm kellyannb: KellyAnn Bonnell-Education and Outreach director for Infinite Spectrum Productions overseeing http://t.co/P4ivV6Bv #lrnchat
09:58:26 pm JaneBozarth: @Keener1111 …so much for s  l   o    w    #lrnchat
09:58:37 pm urbie: #lrnchat Qwrap urbie delgado, instructional designer, focus: rehumanizing learning through story, t.co/kUCk7xGL .. Arizona & NM
09:58:52 pm jankenb2: Good night worldly friends. Or should I say good morning? Next time…. #lrnchat
09:59:03 pm lrnchat: Thanks for joining #lrnchat. We’ll post the transcript on http://t.co/O8x38OGR See you next Thursday🙂
09:59:06 pm Quinnovator: special EOY need-1-trip-east-of-Rockies offer, .5 or 1 day session, you buy time, I pay expenses  #lrnchat
09:59:17 pm kellyannb: @PLS70 not a problem if you need some help pop on over to the blog check out some of the innovative social media resources there  #lrnchat
09:59:27 pm elearningguy: Looking forward to more of your #change11 posts @quinnovator #lrnchat
09:59:35 pm usablelearning: Thanks for the fast learning #lrnchat-ters! Julie Dirksen, MN, author of Design For How People Learn http://t.co/Qxowvqjg #shamelessplug
09:59:59 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, learning experience design strategist, consultant/author/speaker, genial malcontent, slow learning advocate #lrnchat
10:00:15 pm tmiket: @Keener1111 time flies when you’re having fun! #lrnchat
10:00:34 pm PLS70: @kellyannb Will the transfer to Canada? Will definitely check out the blog! #lrnchat
10:01:14 pm Quinnovator: @elearningguy 1 more coming #change11 #lrnchat
10:01:14 pm ZaraLynnKing: RT @Quinnovator: thanks to new and returning #lrnchat participants for another fabulous (fast) learning session
10:01:33 pm MMTingley: Qwrap)Melissa Tingley, eLearning ID and edu-geek, Boston. Looking for next gig & blogging a bit at http://t.co/6fcXC0kV #lrnchat

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