Transcript 27 October 2011 (late)

08:30:08 pm lrnchat: Welcome to #lrnchat! How are you this fine evening?
08:30:24 pm Quinnovator: it’s time for the memestream that is #lrnchat, duck or better yet join!
08:30:37 pm LnDDave: @criticallearner Hi David – Thanks very much for the kind words in your blog post! #lrnchat
08:30:40 pm chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Welcome to #lrnchat! How are you this fine evening?
08:30:44 pm Quinnovator: welcome to new and returning #lrnchat participants, another good time is in the offing
08:30:44 pm Ruthie_HB: @lrnchat Fantabulous! Ready for another #lrnchat.🙂
08:31:00 pm briandusablon: Watch out! I’m back for the evening #lrnchat! #lrnchat
08:31:06 pm lrnchat: If you’re new to #lrnchat, our “rules” for playing are available here: http://t.co/4Lr208H4
08:31:06 pm LnDDave: I’m joining #lrnchat for the next 90 minutes – please excuse the excess tweets!
08:31:26 pm briandusablon: RT @lrnchat: If youre new to #lrnchat, our “rules” for playing are available here: http://t.co/P54Os4Da #lrnchat
08:31:35 pm Quinnovator: seeing some familiar faces here for #lrnchat tonite
08:32:01 pm huiwana: Hi #lrnchat Happy Friday from Singapore!
08:32:02 pm lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself; where you’re from. What have you learned today/this week?
08:32:31 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself; where you’re from. What have you learned today/this week?
08:32:47 pm pmtrainer: RT @lrnchat: Welcome to #lrnchat! How are you this fine evening? #lrnchat
08:32:58 pm Quinnovator: g’day to @briandusablon @LnDDave @criticallearner @rjpanetti @kelly_smith01 @minutebio and more, I’m sure #lrnchat
08:33:02 pm pmtrainer: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself; where youre from. What have you learned today/this week? #lrnchat
08:33:10 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, freelancing around #lrnchat
08:33:50 pm criticallearner: Hi #lrnchat folks: David Glow, Tampa, FL here.
08:34:03 pm HiTweeps: Hi @Ruthie_HB | re: Hi Tweeps! You might want to zip or mute me for the next 90 minutes. I’m going to hop into #lrnchat.🙂
08:34:04 pm briandusablon: Q0) Hey friends. Brian Dusablon. Learning Ninja, dad, Cubs fan😦. Care about your users, people. cc @remembertheuser & #TheToolBar #lrnchat
08:34:06 pm AnotherAnna: Portland, Oregon,  learned chuffed is British slang for being pleased about something.  Anything else didn’t stick.  #Lrnchat
08:34:15 pm rjpanetti: @Quinnovator @briandusablon @LnDDave @criticallearner @kelly_smith01 @minutebio Top o’the evening to ya… #lrnchat
08:34:19 pm briandusablon: @Quinnovator Howdy Clark! #lrnchat
08:34:22 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, learning experience design strategist, author/consultant/speaker, genial malcontent, evil genius, Walnut Creek CA #lrnchat
08:34:35 pm pmtrainer: Coline Son Lee from Freano, CA, Performance Consultant. Learned some new tools of the trade in eLEarning #lrnchat
08:35:08 pm Quinnovator: and don’t forget the Official #lrnchat Drinking Game‚Ñ¢ http://t.co/VeuihVpN (drinks at the ready!)
08:35:09 pm Ruthie_HB: Ruth from Chicago burb. Web content manager & learning enthusiast. Learned it’s exhilarating crossing off your to-do list. #lrnchat
08:35:37 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman – eLearning Designer at Johns Hopkins in Baltimore, MD #lrnchat
08:35:53 pm briandusablon: RT @Quinnovator: and dont forget the Official #lrnchat Drinking Game‚Ñ¢ http://t.co/y5SHWSlT (drinks at the ready!) #lrnchat
08:36:07 pm odguru: Christy from Guelph Canada #lrnchat.  Evenin’ everyone.
08:36:14 pm odguru: RT @Quinnovator: and don’t forget the Official #lrnchat Drinking Game‚Ñ¢ http://t.co/VeuihVpN (drinks at the ready!)
08:36:32 pm briandusablon: @Quinnovator La Fin Du Monde on tap for tonight.🙂 #lrnchat
08:36:35 pm Quinnovator: q0) learned to resurrect old ideas that were good but too early, they may yet find their niche!  #lrnchat
08:36:45 pm AnotherAnna: Anna, I also learned Latin American facilitator are very personable, but they don’t like the virtual classroom as much as F2F ##Lrnchat
08:36:56 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat shouldn’t the official drinking game tweet be offered with a few of the drinkwords embedded #experientiallearning
08:37:02 pm Quinnovator: @briandusablon ah, a *very* nice drop. Torpedo Extra IPA for me #lrnchat
08:37:06 pm LnDDave: Greetings #lrnchat, David Kelly from NYC. Learner, Dad. and for the next week, On-Site Backchannel Curator for DevLearn.
08:37:10 pm minutebio: @rjpanetti Right back at ya – Top o’the evening  #lrnchat
08:37:30 pm Quinnovator: @briandusablon you’ll be doing *just* fine if you’ve got the 750 ml bottle!🙂 #lrnchat
08:38:05 pm BizedgeLLC: RT @CatMoore: Why you only need to test with 5 users: http://t.co/7bMeCDf2 @ruzuku #lrnchat
08:38:26 pm chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself; where you’re from. What have you learned today/this week?
08:40:04 pm lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with eLearning and/or performance support items you create? #lrnchat
08:40:05 pm Quinnovator: @CatMoore ah, yes, heuristic usability #lrnchat
08:40:11 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with eLearning and/or performance support items you create? #lrnchat
08:40:12 pm minutebio: Q0) Learned 2day – Participant knows smile sheets r not anonymous when they r the only 1 in class #lrnchat
08:40:15 pm chet_stevenson: Chester Stevenson, Instructional and Performance Technology Grad Student at Boise State, Learned personally the value of trust #lrnchat
08:40:26 pm chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with eLearning and/or performance support items you create? #lrnchat
08:40:31 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with eLearning and/or performance support items you create? #lrnchat
08:40:43 pm rjpanetti: Rjpanetti, learning consultant, Atlanta, I am steeped in old timey learning materials…I’m just silly with them… #lrnchat
08:40:46 pm Quinnovator: q1) think learners prefer to experience elearning and performance support, not “interface” with them😉 #lrnchat
08:40:47 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with eLearning and/or performance support items you create? #lrnchat
08:40:47 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with eLearning and/or performance support items you create? #lrnchat
08:40:48 pm KoreenOlbrish: <–western Philly burbs, games, virtual worlds, immersive learning…now a division of @ayogogames🙂 #lrnchat
08:40:50 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with eLearning and/or performance support items you create? #lrnchat
08:41:18 pm pmtrainer: Q0) Got my feet wet with articulate this week
#lrnchat
08:41:21 pm TheAirton: Q0) Airton from the Mothership awaiting Beavis and Butthead’s return, oh and I do training stuff #lrnchat
08:41:24 pm chet_stevenson: RT @Quinnovator: q1) think learners prefer to experience elearning and performance support, not “interface” with them😉 #lrnchat
08:41:28 pm briandusablon: How Brian does #lrnchat. http://t.co/ru3OTmMj
08:41:34 pm pmtrainer: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with eLearning and/or performance support items you create? #lrnchat
08:41:56 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q0) I learned that I really have a lot of support out there! #lrnchat
08:42:12 pm minutebio: Q1) Sumtimes they feel entertained & although they don’t usually say “I met the objectives.” they do… Pretty sure #lrnchat
08:42:33 pm Quinnovator: q1) can range from “rather have my teeth pulled without anaesthetic” to “can I have another go?”  #lrnchat
08:42:51 pm briandusablon: Q1) Our learners are pissed before they even get to the items I create. Accessing them is painful. #lrnchat
08:42:53 pm pmtrainer: Agreed! >>RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q0) I learned that I really have a lot of support out there! #lrnchat
08:43:03 pm rjpanetti: Q1) typically happy, sometimes grateful…it’s a big improvement over why they are used to. #lrnchat
08:43:08 pm TheAirton: Q1] At the moment, high involvement when job is on the line.and does not interfere with daily duties…😦 #lrnchat
08:43:10 pm criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat often, slightly worse than using the items they create themselves (if I am being honest)
08:43:12 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q1. We had one learner/player of an ARG jump up and down asking for more. Thought that was a good sign. #lrnchat
08:43:13 pm AnotherAnna: Q1) angry as all get  when the tech doesn’t work, giddy when it’s done right.  #Lrnchat
08:43:41 pm briandusablon: Nice! RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q1. We had one learner/player of an ARG jump up and down asking for more. Thought that was a good sign. #lrnchat
08:43:56 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with eLearning and/or performance support items you create? #lrnchat
08:44:07 pm Ruthie_HB: Q1) Depends on learners. Some r resistant @ 1st when hear “new” learning opp. is available but after trying become comfortable. #lrnchat
08:44:21 pm odguru: Q1) If they r involved, they feel great.  If not suspicious. #Lrnchat
08:44:24 pm criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat Depends on how much legal and compliance “makes” us do some things- the more influence=”I want to drink bleach” from users
08:44:32 pm minutebio: Q1) Often  happy when it is concise and relevant.  #lrnchat
08:44:55 pm Quinnovator: q1) better design doesn’t take longer (er, after *some* work): http://t.co/4MF1pS1k #lrnchat
08:44:59 pm criticallearner: RT @koreenolbrish: Q1. We had one learner/player of an ARG jump up and down asking for more. Thought that was a good sign. #lrnchat >YES!
08:45:00 pm pmtrainer: Q1) Usually positive, I think the biggest issue is the equipment, if the equip works then things are smooth #lrnchat
08:45:21 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Can’t say at this moment – doing overview page turners😦 #lrnchat
08:45:24 pm criticallearner: RT @odguru: Q1) If they r involved, they feel great.  If not suspicious. #Lrnchat
08:45:31 pm odguru: RT@KoreenOlbrish We had one learner/player of an ARG jump up and down asking for more. Thought that was a good sign. #lrnchat << Indeed!
08:45:31 pm minutebio: Q1) Many appreciate when they have practical take-aways like printable job aids #lrnchat
08:45:35 pm Quinnovator: q1) response better if you address the WIIFM!  #lrnchat
08:45:47 pm kelly_smith01: RT @odguru: Q1) If they r involved, they feel great.  If not suspicious. #Lrnchat
08:45:50 pm briandusablon: RT @Quinnovator: q1) better design doesnt take longer (er, after *some* work): http://t.co/yTe6NG3d #lrnchat
08:45:56 pm AnotherAnna: @pmtrainer very frustrating when the tech doesn’t work
#lrnchat
08:46:07 pm rjpanetti: Q1 continued) …but in the land of the blind a one-eyed man is a king!  #lrnchat
08:46:16 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @odguru: Q1) If they r involved, they feel great. If not suspicious. #Lrnchat // if opp. to involve them early as new item create, helps!
08:46:22 pm pmtrainer: RT @minutebio: Q1) Many appreciate when they have practical take-aways like printable job aids #lrnchat
08:46:26 pm LnDDave: Q1) When learners complain about ‘having to take the training’ ,we own that as designers. #lrnchat
08:46:52 pm briandusablon: RT @LnDDave: Q1) When learners complain about having to take the training ,we own that as designers. #lrnchat
08:47:00 pm TheAirton: I call it the “So What” Factor RT @quinnovator: q1) response better if you address the WIIFM!  #lrnchat
08:47:00 pm criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat If we get to really drive the whole “form follows function”, they like the efficiency (let ’em test outta what they don’t need)
08:47:11 pm pmtrainer: RT @LnDDave: Q1) When learners complain about having to take the training ,we own that as designers. #lrnchat
08:47:15 pm minutebio: RT @LnDDave: Q1) When learners complain about having to take the training ,we own that as designers.  #lrnchat
08:47:16 pm criticallearner: RT @minutebio: Q1) Many appreciate when they have practical take-aways like printable job aids #lrnchat
08:47:22 pm Quinnovator: q1) if you’re making it meaningful, relevant, and challenging, it’s better #lrnchat
08:47:27 pm TheAirton: What are the drinking rules tonight? #lrnchat
08:47:41 pm briandusablon: Q1) They love it if they get just what they need, right when they need it. Complain about compliance training. Normal. #lrnchat
08:47:49 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: q1) if you’re making it meaningful, relevant, and challenging, it’s better #lrnchat
08:47:53 pm MaryRNeducator: RT @Quinnovator: q1) better design doesn’t take longer (er, after *some* work): http://t.co/4MF1pS1k #lrnchat
08:47:54 pm Quinnovator: @TheAirton same as it ever was http://t.co/VeuihVpN #lrnchat
08:47:54 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @criticallearner: RT @minutebio: Q1) Many appreciate when they have practical take-aways like printable job aids #lrnchat
08:47:59 pm odguru: @kelly_smith01 what’s “overview page turners” #dumbquestion #lrnchat
08:49:05 pm criticallearner: RT @briandusablon: Q1) They love it if they get just what they need, when they need it. Complain about compliance training. Normal. #lrnchat
08:49:23 pm TheAirton: Thank You for the insight @quinnovator #lrnchat
08:50:33 pm Quinnovator: q1) seen bad job aids, that had good content but were still lacking in design, we need to do better!  #lrnchat
08:50:35 pm criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat they hate it when legal/compliance folks mandate nav lockdowns so users “must” see content.
08:50:41 pm TheAirton: @odguru There are NO #dumbquestions, just inquisitive idiots😉 #lrnchat
08:50:42 pm briandusablon: Q1) I’m pushing more performance support than training. 1) give users what they want. 2) don’t have to go through LMS to access. #lrnchat
08:51:01 pm britz: Dang! Looks like a gr8 #lrnchat …pumpkin carving w/ kiddos takes precidence tho. Enjoy, i’ll be sure to read transcript.
08:51:01 pm rjpanetti: @LnDDave and yes, you need to take the training..we don’t have that chair from The Matrix that teaches Kung Fu in 30sec…yet  #lrnchat
08:51:02 pm minutebio: Q1) “Give ’em just enough 2 make ’em dangerous” – my old boss use 2 say #lrnchat
08:51:10 pm briandusablon: Agreed. RT @Quinnovator: q1) seen bad job aids, that had good content but were still lacking in design, we need to do better!  #lrnchat
08:51:24 pm Quinnovator: RT @briandusablon: Q1) pushing more performance support than training 1) give users what they want 2) don’t have to go through LMS #lrnchat
08:51:33 pm criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat Worst case, like this http://t.co/DdezNupM
08:51:48 pm Quinnovator: RT @criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat they hate it when legal/compliance folks mandate nav lockdowns so users “must” see content. < ditto
08:51:55 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) The less time spent in training class or mode the happier end-user will be, #lrnchat
08:51:56 pm criticallearner: RT @briandusablon: Q1) pushing more performance support than training 1) give users what they want 2) don’t have to go through LMS #lrnchat
08:52:00 pm briandusablon: @britz Awesome. Enjoy the pumpkin carving! #ThisManHasHisPrioritiesStraight #lrnchat
08:52:16 pm kelly_smith01: RT @briandusablon: Q1) pushing more performance support than training 1) give users what they want 2) don’t have to go through LMS #lrnchat
08:52:29 pm TheAirton: On Job Aids, if it isn’t useful on the ‘JOB’ then it’s a ‘while I’m in training aid” Focus on future use resource #lrnchat
08:52:32 pm Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: Q1) less time spent in training class/mode the happier end-user will be #lrnchat < tradeoff: sufficient practice needed
08:53:02 pm Ruthie_HB: @briandusablon Would you push it to them in chunks/bite-size bits as they perform? #lrnchat
08:53:09 pm minutebio: RT @Quinnovator: seen bad job aids, … | Know they’re good when plenty of staff have ’em taped 2 their wall #lrnchat
08:53:13 pm LnDDave: Q1) When was the last time you heard someone complain about the iPhone interface? It just makes sense. Why can’t eLearning? #lrnchat
08:53:20 pm odguru: @rjpanetti @LnDDave Compliance classes are such a hard thing for all involved. 2 bad you can’t just say “don’t be an asshole.” #Lrnchat
08:53:39 pm Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q1) When was last time you heard someone complain about iPhone interface? It just makes sense. Why can’t eLearning? #lrnchat
08:53:43 pm pmtrainer: RT @TheAirton: On Job Aids, if it isnt useful on the JOB then its a while Im in training aid” Focus on future use resource #lrnchat
08:54:02 pm briandusablon: @Quinnovator @criticallearner even if locked down, we can still make those screens more user-friendly and consumable. #lrnchat
08:54:03 pm criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat Best case, they don’t realize we participated, they just worked and we walked alongside to support.
08:54:08 pm lrnchat: Q2) How do you design to meet the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
08:54:17 pm Quinnovator: q1) mistakes made: courses when job aids would do; compliance as CYA, not learning; knowledge dump instead of skill shift #lrnchat
08:54:23 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design to meet the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
08:54:24 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design to meet the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
08:54:26 pm briandusablon: @Ruthie_HB Depends on the user, environment, access, topic. #lrnchat
08:54:29 pm pmtrainer: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design to meet the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
08:54:42 pm Ruthie_HB: @theairton ..and assimilate that resource for reuse versus filing it away in a binder or training materials to collect dust. #lrnchat
08:54:46 pm kelly_smith01: @Quinnovator  Agreed with need for sufficient practice. One way (there are others) mobile devices for practice. #lrnchat
08:54:52 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design to meet the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
08:54:55 pm Quinnovator: q2) know thy audience! #lrnchat  (what makes their heart beat faster, get up in the morning, etc) #lrnchat
08:55:02 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design to meet the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
08:55:02 pm Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: @Quinnovator  Agreed with need for sufficient practice. One way (there are others) mobile devices for practice. #lrnchat
08:55:04 pm TheAirton: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design to meet the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
08:55:05 pm criticallearner: RT @lnddave: Q1) When was last time u heard someone complain abt iPhone interface? just makes sense. >I use iStuff often 2 design #lrnchat
08:55:09 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design to meet the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
08:55:13 pm briandusablon: Q2) Know your audience. Interview them. Learn from them. Sit with them. #lrnchat
08:55:16 pm rjpanetti: RT @Quinnovator: q2) know thy audience! #lrnchat  (what makes their heart beat faster, get up in the morning, etc) #lrnchat
08:55:37 pm LnDDave: Q2) Ask for feedback Before or During design, rather than after implementation. #lrnchat
08:55:43 pm AnotherAnna: Q2) don’t skip the assessment, does that ever happen?  #lrnchat
08:56:01 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @quinnovator: q2) know thy audience! #lrnchat (what makes their heart beat faster, get up in the morning, etc) #lrnchat
08:56:13 pm Quinnovator: q2) hint: find out why the SMEs think it’s interesting; they do this as a passion, tap into it #lrnchat
08:56:15 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q2. I spend 80% of my time on audience and organizational analysis, 20% on design. Once you do the analysis, the design is gravy. #lrnchat
08:56:22 pm pmtrainer: Q2) How does it impact their job and their performance and the overall organization (biz objectives) #lrnchat
08:56:23 pm TheAirton: Q2} Easy, I ask questions!  No, too easy? #lrnchat
08:56:40 pm MMTingley: Ok then, back from story time on to  #lrnchat
08:56:43 pm criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat involve them
08:56:50 pm Quinnovator: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q2. spend 80% of time on audience & org analysis, 20% on design. Once you do the analysis, the design is gravy #lrnchat
08:56:52 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) Find ways to provide learning event and/or performance support to end-user at job location. #lrnchat
08:56:54 pm briandusablon: Q2) Don’t always design for lowest common denominator. This alienates your better employees. Work with both (or more) audiences. #lrnchat
08:57:12 pm briandusablon: Simple, ain’t it? RT @TheAirton: Q2} Easy, I ask questions!  No, too easy? #lrnchat
08:57:14 pm minutebio: Q2) Know thy’re responsibilities, learning needs, expectations, etc. & design to them. It should make they’re job easier  #lrnchat
08:57:26 pm criticallearner: RT @koreenolbrish: Q2. I spend 80% time on audience and org analysis, 20% on design. Once you do the analysis, the design is gravy. #lrnchat
08:57:27 pm MaryRNeducator: RT @Quinnovator: q2) hint: find out why the SMEs think it’s interesting; they do this as a passion, tap into it #lrnchat
08:57:31 pm minutebio: RT @briandusablon: Q2) Dont always design for lowest common denominator. This alienates your better employees.. #lrnchat
08:57:39 pm Quinnovator: RT @briandusablon: Q2) Don’t design for lowest common denominator. Alienates your better employees. Work with more audiences. #lrnchat
08:57:47 pm MaryRNeducator: RT @Quinnovator: q2) know thy audience! #lrnchat  (what makes their heart beat faster, get up in the morning, etc) #lrnchat
08:57:49 pm pmtrainer: RT @criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat involve them #lrnchat
08:57:53 pm Ruthie_HB: Q2) Don’t design for one and done. Review audience outputs and constantly redesign as your audience learning develops/changes. #lrnchat
08:58:15 pm minutebio: RT @criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat involve them #lrnchat
08:58:17 pm LnDDave: Q2) User Testing… with actual users. #lrnchat
08:58:29 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @LnDDave: Q2) User Testing… with actual users. #lrnchat
08:58:33 pm pmtrainer: RT @MaryRNeducator: RT @Quinnovator: q2) know thy audience! #lrnchat  (what makes their heart beat faster, get up in the morning) #lrnchat
08:58:42 pm Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q2) User Testing… with actual users. #lrnchat
08:58:48 pm MMTingley: Q2)  Find out about real situations they encounter, and use them in the learning #lrnchat
08:58:53 pm odguru: RT @Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q2) User Testing… with actual users. #lrnchat
08:59:07 pm briandusablon: Q2) Easier to design in chunks and set up for re-use and can be dynamic than to design one thing and push it out to all. #lrnchat
08:59:08 pm Quinnovator: q2) test, test, and test again.  Prototype early and often.  Iterate #lrnchat
08:59:11 pm criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat I like the concept of UX vs UI- design for experience, not screen. Jobs said it best (Design is how it works)
08:59:13 pm pmtrainer: RT @MMTingley: Q2)  Find out about real situations they encounter, and use them in the learning #lrnchat
08:59:16 pm Quinnovator: RT @MMTingley: Q2)  Find out about real situations they encounter, and use them in the learning #lrnchat < bingo!
08:59:22 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @lnddave: Q2) User Testing… with actual users. #lrnchat
08:59:22 pm chet_stevenson: RT @Quinnovator: q2) hint: find out why the SMEs think it’s interesting; they do this as a passion, tap into it #lrnchat
08:59:28 pm minutebio: Q2) Keep in mind what worked for the audience in past courses, or didn’t. Apply what u learned re: design #lrnchat
08:59:38 pm briandusablon: @LnDDave users? what are those? #lrnchat
08:59:50 pm AnotherAnna: RT @chet_stevenson: RT @Quinnovator: q2) hint: find out why the SMEs think its interesting; they do this as a passion, tap into it #lrnchat
08:59:51 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) Keep context (work environment, performance, business cases) in mind. #lrnchat
08:59:57 pm minutebio: RT @pmtrainer: RT @MMTingley: Find out about real situations they encounter, and use them in the learning | Yes, make it relevant  #lrnchat
09:00:07 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @quinnovator: RT @MMTingley: Q2) Find out about real situations they encounter, and use them in the learning #lrnchat < bingo! <…
09:00:25 pm minutebio: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Keep context (work environment, performance, business cases) in mind. #lrnchat
09:00:28 pm LnDDave: RT @briandusablon: @LnDDave users? what are those? #lrnchat < Sooo many responses… none of which are appropriate.
09:00:37 pm TheAirton: RT @criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat involve them
09:00:51 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @minutebio: Q2) Keep in mind what worked for the audience in past courses, or didn’t. Apply what u learned re: design #lrnchat
09:00:53 pm briandusablon: Experiential and real – yes! RT @MMTingley: Q2)  Find out about real situations they encounter, and use them in the learning. #lrnchat
09:00:55 pm Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Keep context (work environment, performance, business cases) in mind. #lrnchat
09:01:07 pm chet_stevenson: RT @Quinnovator: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q2. spend 80% of time on audience & org analysis, 20% on design. Once you do the analysis, the design is gravy #lrnchat
09:01:14 pm odguru: Know your populations and enable people to have a real feeling of efficacy. #Lrnchat
09:01:15 pm criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat Focus on what they must. Back into the design. Get to perf as quick as possible. Design is done when nothing left to take out.
09:01:30 pm Quinnovator: RT @criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat like the concept of UX vs UI design for experience, not screen. Jobs said it best (Design is how it works)
09:02:02 pm Quinnovator: q2) (channeling @criticallearner ) think Learning Experience Design, not content design, instruction design #lrnchat
09:02:10 pm minutebio: Q2) Treat them as self directed learners.  #lrnchat
09:02:22 pm pmtrainer: RT @odguru: Know your populations and enable people to have a real feeling of efficacy. #lrnchat
09:02:24 pm briandusablon: RT @Quinnovator: q2) (channeling @criticallearner ) think Learning Experience Design, not content design, instruction design #lrnchat
09:02:28 pm pmtrainer: RT @minutebio: Q2) Treat them as self directed learners.  #lrnchat
09:02:29 pm criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat and if you want to get crazy- design something that actually gives the users control (layout settings, nav flexibility, etc.)
09:02:58 pm TheAirton: Q2] I use an ADDIE somewhere, just to say I did. #lrnchat
09:03:10 pm chet_stevenson: RT @Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Keep context (work environment, performance, business cases) in mind. #lrnchat
09:03:12 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) What does exemplary performance look like, feel like,impact, when completed? #lrnchat
09:03:17 pm Quinnovator: @TheAirton feeling thirsty, were we? 🙂 #lrnchat
09:03:32 pm criticallearner: RT @briandusablon RT @Quinnovator: q2) think Learning Experience Design, not content design, instruction design #lrnchat >Performance Design
09:03:37 pm MMTingley: Ha! RT @TheAirton: Q2] I use an ADDIE somewhere, just to say I did. #lrnchat
09:03:55 pm minutebio: RT @criticallearner: you want to get crazy- design something that actually gives users control (layout settings, nav flexibility. #lrnchat
09:04:23 pm criticallearner: RT @mmtingley: Ha! RT @TheAirton: Q2] I use an ADDIE somewhere, just to say I did. #lrnchat >How’s the ROI on that method?
09:04:38 pm odguru: Sounds like user is a new drinking word. #Lrnchat
09:04:40 pm TheAirton: How ’bout just treating them like Grown A#$ Adults RT @minutebio: Q2) Treat them as self directed learners.  #lrnchat
09:05:18 pm briandusablon: @minutebio @criticallearner not always. Too many options can make for a poor user experience. #lrnchat
09:05:35 pm minutebio: Q2) Make EASY to navigate & get 2 exactly what THEY need 2 learn, even if it’s only a small portion of the course.  #lrnchat
09:05:38 pm TheAirton: As I was looking for the cup, I realized Who moved my cheese? #lrnchat
09:05:51 pm LnDDave: Q2) Remember that the SME that is giving design ‘advice’ often has no clue about the actual end user experience. #lrnchat
09:05:56 pm briandusablon: Q2) @minutebio @criticallearner more important to design so they don’t even notice the interface or nav. They just go. #lrnchat
09:06:00 pm Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q2) Remember that the SME that is giving design ‘advice’ often has no clue about the actual end user experience. #lrnchat
09:06:13 pm criticallearner: RT @briandusablon: @minutebio not always. Too many options can make for a poor user experience. #lrnchat > links back to “know thy audience”
09:06:26 pm Quinnovator: @LnDDave and that the SME usually also doesn’t actually have insight anymore into *how* they do what they do #lrnchat
09:06:37 pm pmtrainer: Often Tru RT @LnDDave: Q2) Remember that SME that is giving design advice often has no clue about the actual end user experience. #lrnchat
09:06:54 pm briandusablon: Word. RT @LnDDave: Q2) Remember that the SME that is giving design advice often has no clue about the actual end user experience. #lrnchat
09:07:13 pm LnDDave: @Quinnovator or any clue about design… Why are we talking to SMEs again?!?!? #lrnchat
09:07:25 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) Hopefully “learners” move to a “pull” mentality – more self-directed and focused on identifying their needs  #lrnchat
09:07:42 pm Quinnovator: @LnDDave because we need to *use* them: to a) find out what makes this interesting, and b) to infer the method behind their madness #lrnchat
09:07:47 pm criticallearner: RT @briandusablon: Q2) @minutebio more important to design so they don’t even notice the interface or nav. They just go. #lrnchat >Gold star
09:07:51 pm minutebio: RT @briandusablon: @minutebio @criticallearner mo important 2design so they dont even notice the interface or nav. They just go. #lrnchat
09:07:59 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Hopefully “learners” move to a “pull” mentality – more self-directed and focused on identifying their needs #lrnchat
09:08:05 pm briandusablon: They know things. But keep ’em away from my canvas. RT @LnDDave: @Quinnovator Why are we talking to SMEs again?!?!? #lrnchat
09:08:09 pm lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the instinct to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
09:08:12 pm LnDDave: @Quinnovator Oh yeah… THAT.😉 #lrnchat
09:08:21 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the instinct to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
09:08:27 pm TheAirton: I need to ‘check’ a box RT @lnddave: @Quinnovator or any clue about design… Why are we talking to SMEs again?!?!? #lrnchat
09:08:33 pm briandusablon: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the instinct to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
09:08:34 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the instinct to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
09:08:43 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the instinct to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
09:08:46 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the instinct to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
09:08:58 pm briandusablon: Q3) Know your users. And give a damn. #lrnchat
09:09:04 pm TheAirton: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the instinct to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
09:09:08 pm knolinfos: #education #edchat #lrnchat #Twitter How to Use Twitter | @scoopit http://t.co/gVUL6zki
09:09:13 pm Ruthie_HB: @kelly_smith01 learners = sponge (sometimes they need to be reminded too, take learning into their own hands) #lrnchat
09:09:20 pm Quinnovator: q3) professionalism over passion: http://t.co/4Y607tOb #lrnchat
09:09:29 pm AnotherAnna: Q3) see answers to Q2!  #lrnchat
09:09:35 pm criticallearner: @LnDDave Q2> #lrnchat SME Role: “what performance is needed, and what does success look like?” “Thanks. Now get out so I can talk w/users”
09:09:37 pm odguru: RT @criticallearner: RT @briandusablon: Q2) @minutebio more important to design so they don’t even notice the interface or nav. They just go. #lrnchat >Gold star
09:09:40 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the instinct to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
09:09:49 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the instinct to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
09:10:01 pm odguru: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q2. I spend 80% of my time on audience and organizational analysis, 20% on design. Once you do the analysis, the design is gravy. #lrnchat
09:10:03 pm minutebio: Q3) Sharing design with others tru-out process & taking input. Storybrd 2 Implementation #lrnchat
09:10:03 pm chet_stevenson: @Quinnovator @LnDDave As @GuyWallace says, there’s a difference between a SME and an Exemplary performer, there’s a need for both. #lrnchat
09:10:12 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) I’ve learned much about “design for others” from interacting on Social Media esp. Twitter,FB and #lrnchat
09:10:23 pm Quinnovator: q3) measure the user’s engagement, not yours #lrnchat
09:10:38 pm briandusablon: Q3) Seriously. Care. If you care, you will think about your users and design for them. #lrnchat
09:10:39 pm Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: Q3) I’ve learned much about “design for others” from interacting on Social Media esp. Twitter,FB and #lrnchat
09:10:42 pm briandusablon: RT @Quinnovator: q3) measure the users engagement, not yours #lrnchat
09:10:48 pm kelly_smith01: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Seriously. Care. If you care, you will think about your users and design for them. #lrnchat
09:10:51 pm TheAirton: Q3() I’m not paid for me. I’m paid to involve and evolve them. #lrnchat
09:10:52 pm chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the instinct to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
09:11:02 pm criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat Got this beat outta me working in advertising- client reviews resembled skeet shooting (u learn to design for “them” quick)
09:11:04 pm briandusablon: Q3) Back to earlier response – involve your users. Early and often. #lrnchat
09:11:05 pm Quinnovator: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Seriously. Care. If you care, you will think about your users and design for them. #lrnchat < word
09:11:18 pm odguru: Q3) Continually working to understand myself and my motives better. #Lrnchat
09:11:24 pm minutebio: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Seriously. Care. If you care, you will think about your users and design for them. | must care #lrnchat
09:11:26 pm Quinnovator: RT @TheAirton: Q3() I’m not paid for me. I’m paid to involve and evolve them. #lrnchat < nice phrase
09:11:27 pm MMTingley: RT @kelly_smith01: Q3) Ive learned much about “design for others” from interacting on Social Media… #lrnchat
09:11:58 pm LnDDave: Q3) I love to take other’s elearning with my designer hat on – see what they did and why they did it. It expands my ideas. #lrnchat
09:12:06 pm briandusablon: Like this. A lot. > RT @TheAirton: Q3) Im not paid for me. Im paid to involve and evolve them. #lrnchat
09:12:17 pm Ruthie_HB: Q3) Understand that you are an advocate for the learner. #lrnchat
09:12:21 pm Quinnovator: @LnDDave you must have a strong stomach!🙂 #lrnchat
09:12:46 pm criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat Realize it designed for a perf purpose for OTHERS. Get over yourself and aim for these two needs.
09:12:56 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Ruthie_HB: Q3) Understand that you are an advocate for the learner. #lrnchat
09:13:01 pm briandusablon: Q3) Think about all the other crap they have to take. And then, don’t be THAT guy (or gal). #lrnchat
09:13:13 pm minutebio: Q3) Always learn from the last course design & listen 2 criticism from end-users #lrnchat
09:13:17 pm TheAirton: @quinnovator Thanks. If it’s ever used, just give me a shout out. Mom’s in Brazil would be proud. #lrnchat
09:13:20 pm LnDDave: @Quinnovator True. Some eLearning I take just to make myself feel better about what I’m doing.😉 #lrnchat
09:13:33 pm LnDDave: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Think about all the other crap they have to take. And then, don’t be THAT guy (or gal). #lrnchat
09:13:43 pm briandusablon: w00t! 3-2 Rangers. (excuse the interruption) #lrnchat
09:13:48 pm criticallearner: RT @quinnovator: @LnDDave you must have a strong stomach!🙂 #lrnchat > I am detecting a  reference to an old sea of garbage blog😉
09:13:51 pm briandusablon: RT @minutebio: Q3) Always learn from the last course design & listen 2 criticism from end-users #lrnchat
09:14:03 pm Ruthie_HB: Q3) Goes back to idea of not designing for one and done because for the learner, learning is never done. #lrnchat
09:14:07 pm criticallearner: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Think about all the other crap they have to take. And then, don’t be THAT guy (or gal). #lrnchat > Aces!
09:14:15 pm MMTingley: Q3) My #1 rule – Don’t infantalize the learner. #lrnchat
09:14:19 pm LnDDave: RT @TheAirton: Q3() I’m not paid for me. I’m paid to involve and evolve them. #lrnchat
09:14:25 pm chet_stevenson: Q3) Usability studies #lrnchat
09:14:34 pm minutebio: RT @Ruthie_HB: Q3) Understand that you are an advocate for the learner. | Yes! #lrnchat
09:14:53 pm Quinnovator: q3) pay attention to their *learning styles*.  NOT.  #lrnchat (sorry, just opened another beer and needed a drink)
09:15:07 pm TheAirton: @minutebio Criticism, How dare they? I shall make an elearning to fix the incorrect view of me. #lrnchat
09:15:10 pm briandusablon: Q3) Go outside the industry – how are web designers doing it? How are app developers doing it? Learn from them. #lrnchat
09:15:27 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat Q3> Let them trial, open your ears. Respond (how we did it with UX in web design and way back in ad testing).
09:15:39 pm briandusablon: Q3) Remember it’s about the entire experience. You may not be able to fix everything, but you can make some areas better. #lrnchat
09:15:41 pm Quinnovator: @criticallearner you have a good memory! #lrnchat
09:15:42 pm LnDDave: Q3) I sometimes look at the last couple of projects I’ve done at once, and only them realize patterns I didn’t realized I’d built. #lrnchat
09:16:03 pm minutebio: RT @TheAirton: @minutebio Criticism, How dare they? I shall make an elearning to fix the incorrect view of me. | That’ll show em🙂 #lrnchat
09:16:13 pm briandusablon: Q3) Learn from peers. Share. Review their work. Have them review yours. #lrnchat
09:16:16 pm TheAirton: Thought I was alone. phhheewwwww  RT @quinnovator:  #lrnchat (sorry, just opened another beer and needed a drink)
09:16:21 pm Quinnovator: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Think about all the other crap they have to take. And then, don’t be THAT guy (or gal). #lrnchat
09:16:28 pm LnDDave: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Learn from peers. Share. Review their work. Have them review yours. #lrnchat
09:16:35 pm pmtrainer: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Remember its about entire experience. You may not be able to fix everything, but can make some areas better. #Lrnchat
09:16:50 pm Quinnovator: q3) design an experience for them, not just a ‘course’ #lrnchat
09:16:54 pm minutebio: RT @LnDDave: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Learn from peers. Share. Review their work. Have them review yours. #lrnchat
09:17:05 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Learn from peers. Share. Review their work. Have them review yours. #lrnchat <– Review, yes!
09:17:14 pm kelly_smith01: RT @minutebio: RT @LnDDave: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Learn from peers. Share. Review their work. Have them review yours. #lrnchat
09:17:16 pm briandusablon: If I only had one post tonight: Q3) Don’t start inside a rapid development tool or PowerPoint. Start with a blank canvas. #lrnchat
09:17:39 pm Quinnovator: q3) make sure they know *who* designed it, as a little motivation for accolades rather than scorn #lrnchat
09:17:43 pm odguru: RT @briandusablon: If I only had one post tonight: Q3) Don’t start inside a rapid development tool or PowerPoint. Start with a blank canvas. #lrnchat
09:17:54 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @quinnovator: q3) design an experience for them, not just a ‘course’ #lrnchat // and that experience should lead to more learning opps.
09:17:59 pm criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat If your user will say “you’re making me work to make this work” it’s a clear sign it doesn’t work.
09:18:06 pm LnDDave: Q3) One of the most valuable things I ever did was anonymously watch someone take a course I built. VERY enlightening. #lrnchat
09:18:28 pm pmtrainer: I love to white-board RT @briandusablon: Q3) Dont start inside a rapid development tool or PowerPoint. Start with a blank canvas. #Lrnchat
09:18:46 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) Wish we could think less about lesson/module/topic and more about job/task/accomplishment #lrnchat
09:18:51 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat If your user will say “you’re making me work to make this work” it’s a clear sign it doesn’t work.
09:19:00 pm Quinnovator: RT @briandusablon: If only had 1 post tonight: Q3) Don’t start inside rapid development tool or PPT. Start with a blank canvas. #lrnchat
09:19:03 pm criticallearner: RT @lnddave: Q3) One of the most valuable things I ever did was anonymously watch someone take a course I built. VERY enlightening. #lrnchat
09:19:07 pm briandusablon: Heh. LMS vendors paying attention? RT @criticallearner: Q3> If users say “you’re making me work to make this work” it doesn’t work. #lrnchat
09:19:14 pm briandusablon: RT @LnDDave: Q3) One of the most valuable things I ever did was anonymously watch someone take a course I built. VERY enlightening. #lrnchat
09:19:44 pm Quinnovator: q3) excite their curiousity, incite their effort, reward their insight #lrnchat
09:19:52 pm criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat See what they use now, what they like. Align #noreinventingthewheel
09:19:57 pm LnDDave: RT @Quinnovator: q3) excite their curiousity, incite their effort, reward their insight #lrnchat
09:20:07 pm pmtrainer: RT @Quinnovator: q3) excite their curiousity, incite their effort, reward their insight #Lrnchat
09:20:15 pm minutebio: RT @LnDDave: 1 of most valuable things ever did ws anonymously watch sum1 take course I built. | Yes, but was tuff for me2 bite lip #lrnchat
09:20:21 pm TheAirton: Q3) No design is perfect. Take feedback, smile , and make better. Then say thanks. #lrnchat
09:20:34 pm Quinnovator: q3) find out what would make it ‘hard fun’ #lrnchat
09:20:36 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) On current job I keep binders of notes on scripts/activities/assessments – helps in development. #lrnchat
09:20:42 pm MaryRNeducator: RT @Quinnovator: q3) design an experience for them, not just a ‘course’ #lrnchat
09:20:51 pm markbrumley: Sample tech project rubric. New article. Share! http://t.co/mG6fXqSZ #lrnchat #teaching
09:20:57 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat See what they use now, what they like. Align #noreinventingthewheel // If it ain’t broke…
09:20:57 pm criticallearner: RT @Quinnovator: q3) excite their curiousity, incite their effort, reward their insight #Lrnchat > sounds like something Jobs would’ve said
09:21:05 pm briandusablon: It’s simple. Ask, & then listen. RT @TheAirton: Q3) No design is perfect. Take feedback, smile , and make better. Then say thanks. #lrnchat
09:21:10 pm criticallearner: RT @maryrneducator: RT @Quinnovator: q3) design an experience for them, not just a ‘course’ #lrnchat
09:21:49 pm TheAirton: Gold! RT @quinnovator: Reward Their Insight #lrnchat
09:21:49 pm Quinnovator: RT @TheAirton: Q3) No design is perfect. Take feedback, smile , and make better. Then say thanks. #lrnchat
09:22:05 pm lrnchat: Q4) How do you evaluate current learning systems? How do you incorporate feedback to continuously improve such systems? #lrnchat
09:22:16 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you evaluate current learning systems? How do you incorporate feedback to continuously improve such systems? #lrnchat
09:22:33 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How evaluate current learning systems? How incorporate feedback to continuously improve such systems? #lrnchat
09:22:36 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat Q3> and for “new directions” start yourself an inspiration file (smashing mag, etc.) but always test users’ reactions
09:22:38 pm pmtrainer: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you evaluate current learning systems? How do you incorporate feedback to continuously improve systems? #Lrnchat
09:23:02 pm MrsC_teach: RT @markbrumley: Sample tech project rubric. New article. Share! http://t.co/mG6fXqSZ #lrnchat #teaching
09:23:04 pm chet_stevenson: Q4) How do you evaluate current learning systems? How do you incorporate feedback to continuously improve such systems? #lrnchat
09:23:08 pm Quinnovator: q4) evaluate usability first, so not interfering. Then educational outcomes. Finally, evaluate engagement.  Next: how to do *that* #lrnchat
09:23:33 pm kelly_smith01: Q4) How do you evaluate current learning systems? How do you incorporate feedback to continuously improve such systems? #lrnchat
09:24:00 pm Quinnovator: q4) evaluating engagement: it’s subjective, just *ask* them. #Lrnchat
09:24:04 pm criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Can they perform as expected? Better than previously? And that metric comes from the biz, not the training.
09:24:07 pm pmtrainer: Q4) contacting mgrs or supervisors to get feedback as to learning transfer to job. Has desired performance improved? #Lrnchat
09:24:19 pm chet_stevenson: Q4) I do a Usability study #lrnchat
09:24:30 pm KoreenOlbrish: Sorry I’ve gotta bow out…giving feedback on 22 game design documents is not easy to balance with the #lrnchat siren song🙂
09:24:37 pm minutebio: RT @pmtrainer: Q4) contacting mgrs or supervisors to get feedback as to learning transfer to job. Has desired performance improved? #lrnchat
09:24:42 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: q4) evaluating engagement: it’s subjective, just *ask* them. #Lrnchat
09:24:44 pm briandusablon: Q4) 1) navigate to said learning system. 2) scream and cover eyes. 3) shoot computer. #lrnchat
09:24:56 pm Quinnovator: q4) Set metrics: a) better than a kick in the teeth, b) better than how done now, c) worth $$? eg we’ll take 3 out of 4 saying b) #lrnchat
09:25:13 pm chet_stevenson: Q4) Usability Study, then a Formative Assessment #lrnchat
09:25:19 pm kelly_smith01: RT @briandusablon: Q4) 1) navigate to said learning system. 2) scream and cover eyes. 3) shoot computer. #lrnchat
09:25:30 pm Quinnovator: RT @chet_stevenson: Q4) I do a Usability study #lrnchat < ftw!
09:26:09 pm Quinnovator: RT @pmtrainer: Q4) contacting mgrs or supervisors to get feedback as to learning transfer to job. Has desired performance improved? #Lrnchat
09:26:14 pm briandusablon: Q4) Seriously. Care. Caring leads to meaningful evaluation, assessment, structure. #lrnchat
09:26:26 pm TheAirton: Q4) P1] Surveys do nothing, look into end results. Did 3 move to 4 and so on. P2] Test, feedback, change. Rinse and repeat. #lrnchat
09:26:41 pm go2sali: RT @markbrumley: Sample tech project rubric. New article. Share! http://t.co/mG6fXqSZ #lrnchat #teaching
09:26:50 pm Quinnovator: @pmtrainer that’s penultimate test: leading to behavior change. Ultimate: leading to impact on biz metrics? #Lrnchat
09:26:51 pm briandusablon: Q4) Constant prototyping, usability testing, etc. Involve users – they will LOVE to be on your testing team. #lrnchat
09:27:00 pm criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat A/B testing and control groups work well (A/B for differing approaches).
09:27:05 pm minutebio: Q4) Software training – Call the help desk and make sure those calling r not the 1s who took your course… Hopefully #lrnchat
09:27:17 pm Quinnovator: @pmtrainer but that’s not evaluating engagement (tho’ next to most important measure) #Lrnchat
09:27:33 pm pmtrainer: Q4) there must be a marked change in behavior #Lrnchat
09:27:53 pm LnDDave: Q4) Speaking honestly? I’m like many who evaluate poorly because we’re pressured to move on to the next thing. #lrnchat
09:28:00 pm Ruthie_HB: Q4) Review usage and evaluate disparity, disconnects with learner. Re-examine systems and improve. #lrnchat
09:28:05 pm pmtrainer: Agreed RT @Quinnovator: @pmtrainer thats penultimate test: leading to behavior change. Ultimate: leading to impact on biz metrics? #Lrnchat
09:28:27 pm Quinnovator: @criticallearner actually, prefer to set criteria, and work ’til I achieve (tho if in doubt, A/B works) #lrnchat
09:28:36 pm minutebio: Q4) Call that Kirkpatrick guy. #lrnchat
09:28:53 pm kelly_smith01: Q4) Like usability “studies” with target audience at or very near demographic of learning audience. #lrnchat
09:28:53 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @lnddave: Q4) Speaking honestly? I’m like many who evaluate poorly because we’re pressured to move on to the next thing. #lrnchat
09:28:58 pm Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q4) Speaking honestly? like many who evaluate poorly because we’re pressured to move on to the next thing #lrnchat < sad/true
09:29:25 pm chet_stevenson: @4) Use the Success Case Method (SCM) to evaluate post roll-out #lrnchat
09:29:25 pm pmtrainer: He retired. You’d need to call Jr.🙂 RT @minutebio: Q4) Call that Kirkpatrick guy. #Lrnchat
09:29:29 pm criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Related to @LnDDave ‘s comment: Also, if the tail wagging the dog metrics is “get the check in the box”, just do it, move on.
09:29:31 pm kelly_smith01: RT @LnDDave: Q4) Speaking honestly? I’m like many who evaluate poorly because we’re pressured to move on to the next thing. #lrnchat
09:29:37 pm ric9901: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
09:29:42 pm briandusablon: RT @Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q4) Speaking honestly? like many who evaluate poorly because we’re pressured to move on to the next thing #lrnchat < sad/true
09:30:28 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
09:30:30 pm criticallearner: RT @quinnovator actually, prefer to set criteria, and work ’til I achieve (tho if in doubt, A/B works) #lrnchat > Agree, A/B for cosmetics
09:30:48 pm sarcasticnem: RT @markbrumley Sample tech project rubric. New article. Share! bit.ly/qIoiOb #lrnchat #teaching #pwsd
09:30:50 pm briandusablon: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating training is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
09:30:50 pm criticallearner: RT @chet_stevenson: @4) Use the Success Case Method (SCM) to evaluate post roll-out #lrnchat
09:30:51 pm TheAirton: RT @minutebio: Q4) Call that Kirkpatrick guy. #lrnchat
09:30:54 pm chet_stevenson: RT @ric9901: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating training is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
09:31:06 pm MMTingley: Q4) We do pay very close attention to feedback, but we are not at the point of being able to test against performance. #lrnchat
09:31:18 pm briandusablon: @criticallearner Not just for cosmetics. Interaction types, interface, information mapping… #lrnchat
09:31:51 pm sarcasticnem: RT @sarcasticnem RT @markbrumley Sample tech project rubric. New article. Share! bit.ly/qIoiOb #lrnchat #teaching #cofp
09:32:18 pm pmtrainer: RT @MMTingley: Q4) We do pay very close attention to feedback, but we’re not at the pt of being able to test against performance. #Lrnchat
09:32:40 pm Quinnovator: @MMTingley um, then how do you know whether it’s actually making a *difference*?  #lrnchat
09:33:15 pm ThisLilParent: The basics of #SEO and #blogging http://t.co/K3OEW1L5 #WAHM #SAHM #SAHD #webmarketing #mktg #internet #lrnchat #career #writing #articles
09:33:30 pm criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Here’s what I use for Level 1’s http://t.co/OesvkeVk
09:33:52 pm delta_dc: Yesterday’s post: Metacognitive Memoirs – what are they?
http://t.co/crljvDDh
#edchat #mathchat #engchat #lrnchat #spnchat
09:34:10 pm pmtrainer: RT @criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Heres what I use for Level 1s http://t.co/rWuvnxbP #Lrnchat
09:34:18 pm Quinnovator: RT @criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Here’s what I use for Level 1’s http://t.co/kaaj5Sx6 < as long as it’s *all* flushed😉
09:34:39 pm briandusablon: @ThisLilParent Please don’t spam our little chat. Not cool. #lrnchat
09:35:07 pm criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Measure and remeasure. Also, remember Ebbinghaus/Medina. Skills will atrophy. Pulse “refreshers” and get new data/feedback.
09:35:18 pm TheAirton: LMAO Top 10 Tweet! Getting these out tomorrow. RT @criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Here’s what I use for Level 1’s http://t.co/BCYJSDlb
09:35:52 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Here’s what I use for Level 1’s http://t.co/XJJo042I < As they say K.I.S.S.🙂
09:36:03 pm lrnchat: Q5) What tools do you use to design (not build) learning/performance support? What tools for A/B testing? Analytics? Prototyping? #lrnchat
09:36:17 pm minutebio: Q4)  #lrnchat
09:36:25 pm MMTingley: @Quinnovator honestly we are doing well if people say they weren’t bored. #lrnchat
09:37:08 pm briandusablon: Posted earlier today > Q5) Why You Only Need to Test with 5 Users http://t.co/pE2PyEqv #lrnchat
09:37:11 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What tools do you use to design (not build) learning/performance support? What tools for A/B testing? Analytics? Prototyping? #lrnchat
09:37:37 pm criticallearner: RT @mmtingley: @Quinnovator honestly we are doing well if people say they weren’t bored. #lrnchat > Oy! (been there) Move them up the chain!
09:37:40 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What tools do u use 2 design (not build) learning/perfmance support? Tools -A/B testing? Analytics? Prototyp.. #lrnchat
09:37:51 pm Quinnovator: @ThisLilParent  @delta_dc  @knolinfos  @markbrumley @sarcasticnem either participate or stay away, but don’t spam  #lrnchat
09:38:04 pm TheAirton: Q5) Crayons and finger paint #lrnchat
09:38:06 pm briandusablon: Q5) @tomkuhlmann on usability: http://t.co/86XsJCuL #lrnchat
09:38:08 pm MMTingley: It’s a fairly new org – reaching beyond powerpoint is a big step up
#lrnchat
09:38:13 pm pmtrainer: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What tools do you use to design (not build) learning/performance support? for A/B testing? Analytics? Prototyping? #Lrnchat
09:38:42 pm Quinnovator: @MMTingley wrong metric. nice if they’re not bored, but how know it’s affecting business? #lrnchat < sympathetic, but…
09:38:50 pm criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat analytics + perf measures. Over and over. We see dips, we analyze to sharpen where support is needed. Refreshers. New measures.
09:39:11 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @theairton: Q5) Crayons and finger paint #lrnchat // Stick figures can express a lot!
09:39:12 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What tools to design (not build) learning/performance support? What tools for A/B testing? Analytics? Prototyping? #lrnchat
09:39:19 pm briandusablon: @MMTingley all the more reason you can have a big influence. New orgs are easiers to change than old ones. #lrnchat
09:39:53 pm briandusablon: Q5) http://t.co/3k0HU83x #lrnchat
09:40:18 pm MMTingley: Happily, yes > RT @briandusablon: @MMTingley all the more reason you can have a big influence.  #lrnchat
09:40:43 pm briandusablon: Q5) My PLN. #lrnchat
09:41:44 pm Quinnovator: RT @MMTingley: Happily, yes > RT @briandusablon: @MMTingley all the more reason you can have a big influence.  #lrnchat < yay!
09:41:51 pm TheAirton: Q5] White boards and arguments for design. Sample users. #lrnchat
09:41:57 pm apetroski: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
09:42:10 pm chet_stevenson: Q5) What tools do you use to design (not build) learning/performance support? What tools for A/B testing? Analytics? Prototyping? #lrnchat
09:42:25 pm criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Wireframes and basic prototypes. Let users chew them up. Post-deployment redesign info from usage (analytics) and biz results
09:42:40 pm marciamarcia: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” 1+ #lrnchat
09:42:48 pm Quinnovator: q5) use low-fi tools, diagramming (omnigraffle), MS office suite, Keynote.  #Lrnchat
09:43:37 pm MMTingley: Q5) Best tool is digital recorder – people’s stories tell me the most.  #lrnchat
09:43:38 pm briandusablon: Encourage the arguments! (but call them discussions)🙂 RT @TheAirton: Q5] White boards and arguments for design. Sample users. #lrnchat
09:43:45 pm Quinnovator: q5) post-its, paper, whiteboards, flipcharts, html, keep prototyping investment low as long as possible #lrnchat
09:43:49 pm chet_stevenson: RT @Quinnovator: q5) use low-fi tools, diagramming (omnigraffle), MS office suite, Keynote.  #lrnchat
09:43:52 pm Ruthie_HB: Q5) Would love to use quick-and-dirty pics depicting task/learning object etc. Better sense of learner experience. #lrnchat
09:43:56 pm criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Following the “Apple stuff just makes sense” route, I got some design kits for Apple style mockups- and, it just makes sense.
09:44:01 pm doctorjeff: SM DAILY NEWS: regarding SM, many districts follow ed path of least resistance, when in doubt ban it …. #edchat #lrnchat #gtchat
09:44:03 pm disneydad2: RT @briandusablon: Q1) They love it if they get just what they need, right when they need it. Complain about compliance training. Normal. #lrnchat
09:44:12 pm chet_stevenson: RT @Quinnovator: q5) post-its, paper, whiteboards, flipcharts, html, keep prototyping investment low as long as possible #lrnchat
09:44:51 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: q5) post-its, paper, whiteboards, flipcharts, html, keep prototyping investment low as long as possible #lrnchat
09:45:04 pm criticallearner: Q5) #lrnchat Best UX tool- use cases or scenarios from the field/business. Repackage and re-serve.
09:45:07 pm chet_stevenson: I agree with @Quinnovator – Prefer low-tech options. I prefer to put things on actual paper first. #lrnchat
09:45:12 pm disneydad2: RT @briandusablon: Q1) I’m pushing more performance support than training. 1) give users what they want. 2) don’t have to go through LMS to access. #lrnchat
09:45:14 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @quinnovator: q5) post-its, paper, whiteboards, flipcharts, html, keep prototyping investment low as long as possible #lrnchat
09:45:33 pm MMTingley: Thinking photo storyboard here RT @Ruthie_HB: Q5) Would love to use quick-and-dirty pics depicting task/learning object etc.  #lrnchat
09:46:11 pm Quinnovator: RT @TheAirton: Q5] White boards and arguments for design. Sample users. #lrnchat
09:46:27 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @mmtingley: Thinking photo storyboard here RT @Ruthie_HB: Q5) Would love to use quick-and-dirty pics depicting task… #lrnchat // Yes!
09:46:38 pm Quinnovator: @doctorjeff if you’re not joining #lrnchat, kindly don’t post during the chat, ok?
09:46:55 pm kelly_smith01: I use my  flow charting system which consists of a Big Chief Tablet and a couple of multicolored pends. #lrnchat
09:47:20 pm Quinnovator: apologies, but getting stroppy about the bloody spamming in #Lrnchat, please excuse the messages
09:48:06 pm MMTingley: @Quinnovator  Stroppy?  #lrnchat
09:48:20 pm criticallearner: Yeesh, #lrnchat looks like the kingdom of Spamalot tonight. Might have to get my uber-hacker security pro friends to send some things😉
09:49:29 pm Quinnovator: @MMTingley Aussie expression meaing sorta ‘grumpy’ (contamination from my 7 years down under) #lrnchat
09:49:35 pm odguru: RT @briandusablon: Encourage the arguments! (but call them discussions)🙂 RT @TheAirton: Q5] White boards and arguments for design. Sample users. #lrnchat
09:49:40 pm TheAirton: New tool idea, thks RT @ruthie_hb: Q5) Would love to use quick-and-dirty pics depicting task/learning object etc.. #lrnchat
09:49:54 pm criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Because it’s accessible, I’ve even designed basic design flows in PPT for users to click thru for initial reactions.
09:50:03 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Please reintroduce yourself. Share links, requests & shameless plugs. #lrnchat
09:50:04 pm Quinnovator: @criticallearner if you’ve got those sort of friends, I’ve got another target or two…🙂 #lrnchat
09:50:05 pm briandusablon: @Quinnovator I wouldn’t call it contamination.🙂 #lrnchat
09:50:12 pm MMTingley: @Quinnovator Love it! #lrnchat
09:50:28 pm briandusablon: Dirty pics? Oh, wait. RT @TheAirton @ruthie_hb: Q5) Would love to use quick-and-dirty pics depicting task/learning object etc.. #lrnchat
09:50:43 pm chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Please reintroduce yourself. Share links, requests & shameless plugs. #lrnchat
09:51:00 pm odguru: RT @Quinnovator: q5) post-its, paper, whiteboards, flipcharts, html, keep prototyping investment low as long as possible #lrnchat
09:51:05 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Because it’s accessible, I’ve even designed basic design flows in PPT for users to click thru for…
09:51:10 pm briandusablon: @criticallearner Yes – show them the interaction flow. See if they follow. #lrnchat
09:51:33 pm chrisstjohn: Qwrap: Chris StJohn: Goverati @ DAU, the WalMart of Learning. Sunday Avatarian and supporter of the Rebel Alliance (usually) #lrnchat
09:51:33 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, enjoying an evening of social learning via a social media #lrnchat
09:52:20 pm chet_stevenson: chester stevenson, IPT Grad student at Boise State, One Stop Shop #lrnchat
09:52:38 pm TheAirton: LOL! RT @briandusablon: Dirty pics? Oh, wait. #lrnchat
09:52:39 pm writegrrl: RT @marciamarcia: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” 1+ #lrnchat
09:52:54 pm Ruthie_HB: @criticallearner Key! re: click thru for inital reactions, esp. if program is computer-based. user exp. diff. w/ mouse, keystrokes. #lrnchat
09:52:58 pm briandusablon: QWrap) I’m Brian Dusablon. I care about users. I’m talking about it at #DevLearn next week. http://t.co/apYcspu1 #lrnchat
09:53:12 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman – eLearning Designer in B’more.  Hope to c many of u at #DevLearn next week. #lrnchat
09:53:15 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat wrap> http://t.co/HbFDGilH Shameless plug for the work @LnDDave (the cooler David) does with backchannels.  Dave Glow, Tampa, FL
09:53:15 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, evil genius, consultant/author/speaker, genial malcontent, & learning experience design strategist extraordinaire #lrnchat
09:53:47 pm Quinnovator: amazed that it’s that time again, thanks for another wild and wooly #lrnchat to new and returning participants!
09:53:56 pm briandusablon: QWrap) Also, check out @emergentradio. @jkunrein and I drink beer. Oh, and we talk about usability, accessibility, tools, and more. #lrnchat
09:54:18 pm Ruthie_HB: Qwrap) Ruth here, always looking fwd to the next #lrnchat! Wish could join those live at #devlearn.
09:54:54 pm kelly_smith01: Thanks for the last 90 minutes #lrnchat
09:54:55 pm minutebio: @Quinnovator Only a little evil, right? #lrnchat
09:54:58 pm MMTingley: Melissa Tingley, eLearning ID, digital storyteller, and general eduGeek, Boston.
#lrnchat
09:55:04 pm Ruthie_HB: @briandusablon Lol. Not that type of “dirty”. #lrnchat
09:55:08 pm criticallearner: RT @briandusablon: check out @emergentradio. @jkunrein and I drink beer. Oh, and talk about usability, tools, and more. #lrnchat >gr8 stuff
09:55:21 pm TheAirton: Qwrap) Sith (low order) Airton, fun, non-user of speedos, and always fun learning from new and old tweeters in the #lrnchat
09:55:34 pm briandusablon: RT @criticallearner: #lrnchat wrap> http://t.co/HbFDGilH Shameless plug for the work @LnDDave (the cooler David) does with backchannels.  Dave Glow, Tampa, FL
09:56:04 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @quinnovator: amazed that it’s that time again, thanks for another wild and wooly #lrnchat to new and returning participants!
09:56:30 pm Quinnovator: @minutebio depends. To sacred cows, entrenched myths, etc, I’m pretty evil; otherwise, no🙂 #lrnchat (and not much of a genius either🙂
09:57:01 pm briandusablon: QWrap) Remember the user, folks. It’s been fun. Thanks for the great dialogue. Cheers! #lrnchat
09:57:08 pm TheAirton: @mmtingley You tweeted it wrong, it’s Bahstun! Go Pats! Anything NY sucks! #lrnchat
09:58:08 pm marciamarcia: Marcia Conner, #lrnchat founder, travel’s been keeping me away for last few weeks. Look forward to next week here again.  #lrnchat
09:58:20 pm Quinnovator: RT @briandusablon: check out @emergentradio..@jkunrein and I drink beer. And talk about usability, accessibility, tools, & more #lrnchat
09:58:52 pm minutebio: @Quinnovator Good 2 know🙂 Hope 2 c you at devlearn. Have a g8 night. #lrnchat
09:59:02 pm lrnchat: Thanks for joining #lrnchat tonight. We’ll post the transcript on http://t.co/O8x38OGR See you from #DevLearn next Thursday!
10:00:16 pm randy_ramsey: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
10:00:17 pm MMTingley: @TheAirton Hmm, no Peyton to kick around this year – focus on Eli? #lrnchat
10:00:39 pm briandusablon: @minutebio find me, too, Jeff. Don’t think we’ve met in person. See you there! #lrnchat
10:00:42 pm minutebio: RT @briandusablon: Remember the user | Thought it was “Remember the Maine,” but this works 2 #lrnchat
10:01:19 pm TriciaRansom: UGH!!! I cannot believe that I missed #lrnchat tonight!!! Transcripts, here I come.
10:01:37 pm briandusablon: “Remember the Alamo” for me🙂 RT @minutebio: RT @briandusablon: Remember the user | Thought it was “Remember the Maine” #lrnchat
10:01:57 pm marciamarcia: Participated in great #IBMsocbiz webinar today on social learning, not social training. All about learning as part of work. #joyous #lrnchat
10:02:11 pm minutebio: RT @briandusablon: find me, too, Jeff. Dont think weve met in person. See you there! | We hv not. Look fwd 2 mtg u. Safe travels #lrnchat
10:02:52 pm TheAirton: Beavis and Butthead is on brain is off. #lrnchat
10:04:15 pm briandusablon: @marciamarcia that sounds nice. Looking forward to learning more. #lrnchat

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