Transcript 27 October 2011 (early)

04:30:17 pm lrnchat: Welcome to #lrnchat! How have you been?
04:30:38 pm amirelion: RT @AndreaMay1: It’s almost time for #lrnchat. !Advance apologies for the  volume of tweets in the next hour or so. Topic today: User Experience Design
04:31:08 pm lrnchat: If you’re new to #lrnchat, how it works is explained here: http://t.co/4Lr208H4
04:31:18 pm ThePrezenter: Hey #lrnchat I’ve been good thanks. Hi everyone
04:31:36 pm AndreaMay1: It’s been a good week…wrapping up a project that has been going for 1.5 years! #lrnchat
04:31:44 pm lesleywprice: RT @lrnchat: If youre new to #lrnchat, how it works is explained here: http://t.co/92gx1wKS #lrnchat
04:31:48 pm cellodav: RT @AndreaMay1: Its almost time for #lrnchat. !Advance apologies for the  volume of tweets in the next hour or so. #lrnchat
04:32:08 pm lrnchat: Q0) Let’s get started w/ the #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself; where you’re from. What have you learned today/this week?
04:32:25 pm huiwana: RT @lrnchat: If you’re new to #lrnchat, how it works is explained here: http://t.co/4Lr208H4
04:32:26 pm lesleywprice: Its almost time for #lrnchat. !Advance apologies for the  volume of tweets in the next hour or so. #lrnchat
04:32:41 pm amirelion: #lrnchat Busy week during which I learned quite a lot.🙂
04:33:31 pm olliegardener: RT @lesleywprice: Its almost time for #lrnchat. !Advance apologies for the  volume of tweets in the next hour or so. #lrnchat
04:34:07 pm cellodav: Q0) David Macdonald – Sudbury ON. Learned this week that “It gets better” is only part of the solution. Words require action. #lrnchat
04:34:10 pm OpenSesameNow: Hey #lrnchat! This is Kelly from the OpenSesame elearning marketplace in Portland, OR. Looking forward to chatting and also #DevLearn!
04:34:20 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q0) Let’s get started w/ the #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself; where you’re from. What have you learned today/this week?
04:34:26 pm ThePrezenter: #lrnchat In Bristol, UK. This week I’ve discovered Jing for quick screencasts. It’s awesome check it out http://t.co/arBlbwzE
04:34:39 pm JD_Dillon: Q0) JD from Orlando up in the #lrnchat … Learning how to turn an “office” into a functional, creative work space.
04:34:42 pm lesleywprice: q0) Lesley from Loughborough UK elearning has words that mean different things to different people http://t.co/htY9IVVn #lrnchat
04:35:34 pm NixTheNext: Q0) Good morning😀 Becky from Chicago, eLearning Dev’er, beyond psyched for #DevLearn! #lrnchat
04:35:41 pm amirelion: Amir Elion Director of Learning Solutions Kineo Israel. Learned this week of how a good conference can be a great learning platform #lrnchat
04:35:55 pm StephenCHudson: Today’s #lrnchat is on User Experience Design.  Should be a good one!
04:36:11 pm huiwana: #lrnchat Q0)Huiwan, Singapore, e-learning, learnt abt the flood in Bangkok it’s not good. Please help pray for them
04:36:42 pm olliegardener: Hola #lrnchat! Cofounder of NoddlePod – a collaboration tool 4 people working and learning in parallel.  #lrnchat
04:36:51 pm LeeMarkDavies: Hi, I’m Lee and this week I learned that no matter how often you go back, the Adelphi does not improve with age #nuszones  #lrnchat
04:36:54 pm HollyJustice1: Q0) #Lrnchat Holly in Portland OR Job hunting daily! This week studied YouTube vs. http://t.co/Tmcuue3N. Videos seem key for portfolio.
04:36:57 pm npmaven: Debra Beck, adult educator, Wyoming: online instructor and professional development support of #nonprofits (esp. boards). #lrnchat
04:37:11 pm dbolen: Don Bolen, Atlanta, been playing with some online Agile PM tools and prepping for #DevLearn #lrnchat
04:37:28 pm AndreaMay1: Q0) Andrea May VP Inst. Desg Srvs @dashethomson in MN  Learned this week I am glad to be done having kids!  Welcome Lannister! #lrnchat
04:37:39 pm alc47: Q0 Nic Laycock SW England. Today I’ve learned I can do more than I think I can if i focus hard enough. Good to be here! #lrnchat
04:37:44 pm billcush: Q0) Morning all..Bill from Mountain View, CA. This weak I learned the more I learned about Sharepoint, the more my head aches. #lrnchat
04:38:25 pm AndreaMay1: RT @billcush: Q0) This week I learned the more I learned about Sharepoint, the more my head aches. #lrnchat <- I can sympathize with that!
04:38:33 pm JD_Dillon: @HollyJustice1 – Speaking of portfolios, I’m playing with different sharing options for my past presentations. Any suggestions? #lrnchat
04:38:35 pm lesleywprice: RT @billcush: Q0)  This weak I learned the more I learned about Sharepoint, the more my head aches <deepest sympathy🙂 #lrnchat
04:39:04 pm olliegardener: This week, I’ve learned that winter does arrive in Spain too and that windows are better left shut when it does.  #lrnchat
04:39:04 pm JD_Dillon: @billcush – Amen on SharePoint headaches! #lrnchat
04:39:50 pm NixTheNext: Q0) this week I learned my co has a NICE CPE benefit; Looking for grad/certificate programs in ISD, resources welcome! #lrnchat
04:40:08 pm lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with the eLearning and/or performance support you create? #lrnchat
04:40:13 pm HollyJustice1: RT @lesleywprice: RT @lrnchat: If youre new to #lrnchat, how it works is explained here: http://t.co/92gx1wKS #lrnchat
04:40:29 pm LeeMarkDavies: thinks @shanechowen, @NickLinford, @PaulEeles, @IFL_Members, @dmetters, @AnnWalkerWEA, @WEAsouthern, etc should join #lrnchat
04:40:38 pm AndreaMay1: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with the eLearning and/or performance support you create? #lrnchat
04:40:41 pm huiwana: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with the eLearning and/or performance support you create? #lrnchat
04:40:58 pm billcush: @jd_dillon I guess there is a reason they sell 500-page books on Sharepoint. #lrnchat
04:41:00 pm lesleywprice: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with the eLearning and/or performance support you create? #lrnchat
04:41:04 pm npmaven: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with the eLearning and/or performance support you create? #lrnchat
04:41:32 pm ThePrezenter: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with the eLearning and/or performance support you create? #lrnchat
04:41:50 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with the eLearning and/or performance support you create? #lrnchat
04:42:06 pm lesleywprice: q1) a lot depends on whether they can see the benefits #WIIFM #lrnchat
04:42:13 pm LeeMarkDavies: “@lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with the eLearning and/or performance support you create? #lrnchat” – now in English?
04:42:20 pm npmaven: Q1) Noticing shift in #nonprofit audiences: less hesitation to consider e-learning as option than in past. Not full embrace, but… #lrnchat
04:42:25 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) Right now, between tech issues and lack of intuitive interface, not very good. #lrnchat
04:42:36 pm aaronesilvers: RT @JD_Dillon: Q1) Right now, between tech issues and lack of intuitive interface, not very good. #lrnchat
04:42:42 pm alc47: Q1 Most learners do not see elearning as performance support – just boring stuff they are forced to do with no link to workplace #lrnchat
04:42:52 pm billcush: Q1) When I just send out a link via email, people love it…when I tell them to search for it in the LMS, they say, “huh?” #lrnchat
04:43:00 pm npmaven: Can’t underestimate this!  RT @lesleywprice: q1) a lot depends on whether they can see the benefits #WIIFM #lrnchat
04:43:19 pm aaronesilvers: @JD_Dillon If you can, share more about the lack of an intuitive interface, please! #lrnchat
04:43:20 pm amirelion: Q1) Many learners have high expectations these days from interface and design. #lrnchat
04:43:28 pm billcush: Yep! RT @alc47: Q1 Most learners do not see elearning as performance support – just boring stuff they are forced to do… #lrnchat
04:43:30 pm AndreaMay1: Q1) I think it varies learner to learner and client to client. The whole gamut of excellent to really annoyed. #lrnchat
04:43:31 pm aaronesilvers: RT @amirelion: Q1) Many learners have high expectations these days from interface and design. #lrnchat
04:43:32 pm chrisstjohn: Chris StJohn: Goverati, DAU (the WalMart of Learning), Empowering Tech Herder, thumbing a nose at 100s of yrs of educ tradition. #lrnchat
04:43:34 pm lesleywprice: RT @alc47: Q1 just boring stuff they are forced to do with no link to workplace < exactly no #WIIFM #lrnchat
04:43:59 pm ThePrezenter: Q1) Most of the audience have been in the workforce for over 20 years and arent tech savvy. The newness of it all scares them #lrnchat
04:44:33 pm aaronesilvers: @alc47 Is that the content or its interface? #lrnchat
04:44:37 pm lesleywprice: RT @amirelion: Q1) Many learners have high expectations these days from interface and design. #lrnchat
04:44:53 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) The best video games don’t require deep instructions or user manuals. Unfortunately, many eLearnings do. #lrnchat
04:45:10 pm aaronesilvers: @ThePrezenter eLearning has been around in one form or another for the last 15 years. What’s new? #lrnchat
04:45:15 pm dbolen: Q1 will vary depending upon the content – compliance and “mandatory” generally loathed #lrnchat
04:45:18 pm AndreaMay1: RT @amirelion: Q1)Many learners have high expectations from interface and design #lrnchat <-Yes, but orgs  don’t necessarily have the same.
04:45:38 pm NixTheNext: Q1) I don’t think I have enough access to my learner to really know how they feel about my CBT interface. #lrnchat
04:45:39 pm amirelion: Q1) …however not many have has a good experience with UX design #lrnchat
04:45:52 pm cellodav: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with the eLearning and/or performance support you create? #lrnchat
04:45:54 pm NixTheNext: Q1) I know how they feel about the LMS though😉😉 #lrnchat
04:46:00 pm aaronesilvers: @AndreaMay1 Why don’t orgs have high expectations about interface design? #lrnchat
04:46:04 pm alc47: RT @aaronesilvers: @alc47 Is that the content or its interface? Content, interface and especially image of elearning  #lrnchat
04:46:24 pm lesleywprice: RT @JD_Dillon: Q1) The best video games dont  instructions/user manuals. Unfortunately, many eLearnings do.< people don’t read them #lrnchat
04:46:43 pm briandusablon: Exactly. RT @NixTheNext: Q1) I know how they feel about the LMS though😉😉 #lrnchat
04:46:55 pm aaronesilvers: @lesleywprice Why don’t people read the instruction manuals that come with the eLearning? #lrnchat
04:46:57 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with the eLearning and/or performance support you create? #lrnchat
04:47:14 pm aaronesilvers: You should know, friends, that I’m going to ask “why” a lot. #lrnchat
04:47:28 pm ThePrezenter: @aaronesilvers For my particular audience it’s new to them. Hence the scariness of it all #lrnchat
04:47:35 pm briandusablon: Q1) It’s tough when getting to the content is a complete pain in the ass. I keep it out of the LMS unless it’s required. #lrnchat
04:47:38 pm LnDDave: Greetings #lrnchat! David Kelly from NYC, popping in for a bit of the early discussion.
04:47:38 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) Designers need to understand the audience in order to properly define intuitive interface. #lrnchat
04:47:46 pm cellodav: Q1) as long as the content is up to date and easily found, they don’t care much about the UI #lrnchat
04:47:57 pm AndreaMay1: @aaronesilvers When I see this, it’s about budget and timeline…making the interface anything but functional is low on the list #lrnchat
04:48:04 pm briandusablon: He means it. RT @aaronesilvers: You should know, friends, that Im going to ask “why” a lot. #lrnchat
04:48:17 pm aaronesilvers: @cellodav Who’s your audience, if you don’t mind sharing? #lrnchat
04:48:19 pm NixTheNext: @aaronesilvers: @lesleywprice IMHO- you shouldn’t have to train how to use training; The UI should be intuitive w/o instructions. #lrnchat
04:48:29 pm aaronesilvers: @briandusablon Why do I mean it?😉 #lrnchat
04:48:32 pm ThePrezenter: RT @JD_Dillon: Q1) Designers need to understand the audience in order to properly define intuitive interface. #lrnchat
04:48:38 pm OpenSesameNow: @aaronesilvers We should make an instruction manual for the instruction manual for the instruction manual… #lrnchat
04:48:43 pm gillian_white: if it needs instructions, chances are it’s poorly designed #lrnchat
04:48:44 pm AndreaMay1: RT @aaronesilvers: You should know, friends, that I’m going to ask “why” a lot. #lrnchat <-Best way to learn!
04:48:47 pm aaronesilvers: RT @NixTheNext: @aaronesilvers: @lesleywprice IMHO- you shouldn’t have to train how to use training; The UI should be intuitive w/o instructions. #lrnchat
04:48:56 pm aaronesilvers: RT @OpenSesameNow: @aaronesilvers We should make an instruction manual for the instruction manual for the instruction manual… #lrnchat
04:49:01 pm ruzuku: Howdy #lrnchat! Abe from http://t.co/zauXPK2B here. I’m a UX researcher and designer with a strong interest in online learning.
04:49:01 pm aaronesilvers: RT @gillian_white: if it needs instructions, chances are it’s poorly designed #lrnchat
04:49:06 pm cellodav: @aaronesilvers good Q – undergrad university students #lrnchat
04:49:11 pm lesleywprice: RT @NixTheNext: @aaronesilvers: @lesleywprice ; The UI should be intuitive w/o instructions < exactly
#lrnchat
04:49:26 pm NixTheNext: RT @aaronesilvers: RT @gillian_white: if it needs instructions, chances are its poorly designed #lrnchat
04:49:31 pm lesleywprice: RT @gillian_white: if it needs instructions, chances are its poorly designed #lrnchat
04:49:31 pm alc47: RT @aaronesilvers: @lesleywprice Why dont people read manuals with the eLearning?>cos they are boring and not intuitive #lrnchat
04:49:35 pm olliegardener: q1) Our experience: users expect and love gr8t interface & design – orgs need it to integrate with SAP, but r unsure why #lrnchat
04:49:36 pm aaronesilvers: RT @briandusablon: Q1) It’s tough when getting to the content is a complete pain in the ass. I keep it out of the LMS unless it’s required. #lrnchat
04:49:46 pm briandusablon: RT @NixTheNext @aaronesilvers @lesleywprice shouldnt have to train how to use training; UI should be intuitive w/o instructions. #lrnchat
04:49:48 pm LnDDave: Q1) When learners complain about ‘having to take the training’ ,we own that as designers. #lrnchat
04:49:52 pm cellodav: Q1) interface usually only becomes an issue when it gets in the way of learning and content #lrnchat
04:50:05 pm alc47: RT @aaronesilvers: RT @gillian_white: if it needs instructions, chances are its poorly designed>exactly and treat people as idiots #lrnchat
04:50:11 pm cellodav: RT @LnDDave: Q1) When learners complain about having to take the training ,we own that as designers. #lrnchat
04:50:11 pm billcush: @cellodav So the UI is great when no one says anything about it. It’s that good. #lrnchat
04:50:11 pm olliegardener: RT @lesleywprice: RT @gillian_white: if it needs instructions, chances are its poorly designed #lrnchat
04:50:12 pm lesleywprice: RT @LnDDave: Q1) When learners complain about having to take the training ,we own that as designers. #lrnchat
04:50:14 pm NixTheNext: RT @LnDDave: Q1) When learners complain about having to take the training ,we own that as designers. #lrnchat
04:50:22 pm milindpansare: Top 10 Social Media Skills webinar  http://t.co/FyNyvhYi #e20 #astd #elearning #lrnchat #socbiz #sabasoftware
04:50:38 pm aaronesilvers: @ThePrezenter I’m very curious about who your audience is that eLearning is still new. Not doubting you. Just interested. #lrnchat
04:50:39 pm ruzuku: This week, I learned about structures and techniques for creating ‘mastermind’ or peer-coaching groups. #lrnchat
04:50:54 pm AndrewJacobsLD: Q1 Fearful, expectant, bored.  Depends on their previous experience and learning history. #lrnchat
04:50:58 pm CatMoore: RT @LnDDave: Q1) When learners complain about having to take the training, we own that as designers. #lrnchat
04:51:14 pm HollyJustice1: Q1)  #lrnchat Newcomers expect passive and boring, want the classroom back. Experienced e-learners expect to learn efficiently, actively.
04:51:14 pm NixTheNext: RT @billcush: @cellodav So UI is great when no one says anything about it.< yep, but makes it touch to know what aspects work/don’t #lrnchat
04:51:21 pm JD_Dillon: RT @CatMoore: RT @LnDDave: Q1) When learners complain about having to take the training, we own that as designers. #lrnchat
04:51:23 pm LnDDave: Q1) When was the last time you heard someone complain about the iphone interface? It just makes sense. Why can’t eLearning? #lrnchat
04:51:32 pm ruzuku: Also this week, learned about the importance of self-care and renewal in teaching, via @jenlouden and #TeachNow. #lrnchat
04:51:41 pm ThePrezenter: Q1) I believe the next wave of workforce wont have any of the issues that most of todays workforce does. #lrnchat
04:51:42 pm cellodav: @billcush it might not be Grrrreat! but it’s at least good #lrnchat
04:51:51 pm chrisstjohn: Q1) Our learners have high expectations on GUI. We deliver over 12.5Million hrs seat time last year. Single sign on is a must #lrnchat
04:51:57 pm billcush: Q1) Part of the learning experience is that managers can create an experience that training is mandatory instead of voluntary. #lrnchat
04:52:03 pm OpenSesameNow: RT @lnddave: Q1) When was the last time you heard someone complain abt iphone interface? It just makes sense. Why can’t eLearning? #lrnchat
04:52:11 pm JD_Dillon: RT @LnDDave: Q1) When was the last time you heard someone complain about the iphone interface? It just makes sense. Why can’t eLearning? #lrnchat
04:52:20 pm aaronesilvers: @milindpansare Please do us a favor and contribute to a #lrnchat or refrain from spamming. We don’t puke in the middle of your webinars.
04:52:26 pm AndrewJacobsLD: RT @HollyJustice1: Q1)  #lrnchat Newcomers expect passive and boring, want the classroom back. Experienced e-learners expect to learn efficiently, actively.
04:52:32 pm NixTheNext: @billcush managers?! they’re involved in training?? #lrnchat
04:52:37 pm AndreaMay1: RT @LnDDave: Q1) When have you heard someone complain about the iphone interface? It makes sense. Why can’t eLearning? #lrnchat <It should!
04:52:48 pm cellodav: RT @chrisstjohn: Q1) … Single sign on is a must > amen! #lrnchat
04:53:03 pm ruzuku: Q1) We often find it difficult to get good, in-depth understanding of how our learners are feeling and performing online… #lrnchat
04:53:07 pm amirelion: Q1) LMS UX does not have to be user unfriendly. #lrnchat
04:53:07 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) The interface/design should not be part of the learning experience but rather facilitate learning. #lrnchat
04:53:08 pm lesleywprice: RT @ThePrezenter: Q1) next wave of workforce wont have issues that todays workforce does < If design is bad reaction will be worse #lrnchat
04:53:55 pm ruzuku: Q1) … (cont’d) … we’re considering conducting usability studies with new learners, as well as observing ongoing courses. #lrnchat
04:54:17 pm cellodav: Q1) users don’t always know what is good or better, but they sure know what isn’t #lrnchat
04:54:21 pm dainadunlop: Hello everyone #lrnchat
04:54:24 pm billcush: No.They just make it mandatory for you. You need to be fixed, not them. RT @nixthenext: @billcush managers?! involved in training?? #lrnchat
04:54:31 pm lrnchat: Q2) How do you design for the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
04:54:32 pm cellodav: RT @JD_Dillon: Q1) The interface/design should not be part of the learning experience but rather facilitate learning. #lrnchat
04:54:34 pm LnDDave: Q1) If the first module a new user needs to complete is “How to use the interface”, you’re already behind. #lrnchat
04:54:41 pm NixTheNext: RT @cellodav: Q1) users dont always know what is good or better, but they sure know what isnt #lrnchat
04:54:43 pm amirelion: RT @billcush: @cellodav So the UI is great when no one says anything about it. It’s that good. #lrnchat
04:54:43 pm briandusablon: That depends. RT @JD_Dillon: Q1) The interface/design should not be part of the learning experience but rather facilitate learning. #lrnchat
04:54:53 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) If your audience is demographically diverse (ages, languages, tech skills), it must be reflecting in interface design. #lrnchat
04:54:57 pm HollyJustice1: RT @JD Dillon
Q1) The interface/design should not be part of the learning experience but rather facilitate learning. #lrnchat
04:55:04 pm NixTheNext: RT @LnDDave: Q1) If the first module a new user needs to complete is “How to use the interface”, youre already behind. #lrnchat
04:55:07 pm briandusablon: Indeed. RT @cellodav: Q1) users dont always know what is good or better, but they sure know what isnt #lrnchat
04:55:08 pm aaronesilvers: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design for the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
04:55:38 pm briandusablon: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design for the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
04:55:38 pm ruzuku: RT @HollyJustice1: Q1)  #lrnchat Newcomers expect passive and boring, want the classroom back. Experienced e-learners expect to learn efficiently, actively.
04:55:42 pm AndreaMay1: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design for the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
04:55:43 pm olliegardener: RT @aaronesilvers: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design for the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
04:55:50 pm ThePrezenter: RT @lesleywprice @ThePrezenter:  design is bad reaction will be worse – Agree with that, but by then they’ll be building the stuff! #lrnchat
04:55:53 pm lesleywprice: q1) designers have to learn that like in the classroom one size does not fit all #lrnchat
04:56:09 pm lesleywprice: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design for the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
04:56:10 pm CapAnalytics: Q2) Who is your audience? The learners? Their managers who send them to take the training? The business leaders calling for it? #lrnchat
04:56:13 pm cellodav: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design for the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
04:56:18 pm LnDDave: Q2) Well, it would help if we asked for feedback Before or During design, rather than after implementation. #lrnchat
04:56:28 pm ThePrezenter: RT @LnDDave: Q1) If the first module a new user needs to complete is “How to use the interface”, you’re already behind. #lrnchat
04:56:30 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) Ask the audience. Get a basic understanding of their wants/needs/likes regarding content design. Then, match to biz need. #lrnchat
04:56:32 pm dbolen: Q2 test the UI with real users #lrnchat
04:56:41 pm aaronesilvers: @gillian_white I am really really tired of vendors spamming #lrnchat.
04:56:43 pm dainadunlop: Q2) I start with a lot of discussion about what the needs and wants mean to them and why they need/want them #lrnchat
04:56:44 pm briandusablon: Q2) Start by learning about your audience. Too many times that is skipped. #lrnchat
04:56:51 pm NixTheNext: Q2) Before I start any new CBT, I review level 2 surveys from other CBTs I’ve done. Steal what worked, drop or improve what didn’t. #lrnchat
04:56:54 pm aaronesilvers: RT @briandusablon: Q2) Start by learning about your audience. Too many times that is skipped. #lrnchat
04:56:56 pm amirelion: Q2) a. Try to connect the content with the design. #lrnchat
04:56:57 pm lesleywprice: RT @LnDDave: Q2) Well, it would help if we asked for feedback Before or During design, rather than after implementation. #lrnchat
04:57:17 pm lesleywprice: RT @aaronesilvers: @gillian_white I am really really tired of vendors spamming #lrnchat. Agreed!! #lrnchat
04:57:17 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) As @LnDDave points out, use reliable audience members to test your content during development/UAT, not just implementation. #lrnchat
04:57:18 pm CatMoore: Instead of leaving users out of process til end, try usability testing at beginning. Or maybe http://t.co/z6lYMNGA #lrnchat
04:57:30 pm edCetraT: Q2) Consider the topic and leverage the real estate
#lrnchat
04:57:34 pm AndreaMay1: Q2)Have to start with thorough audience analysis and get to the user groups if you can, not just the managers or PMO #lrnchat
04:57:35 pm ruzuku: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design for the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
04:57:38 pm CatMoore: RT @briandusablon: Q2) Start by learning about your audience. Too many times that is skipped. #lrnchat
04:57:40 pm cellodav: RT @LnDDave: Q2) …if we asked for feedback Before or During design, rather than after implementation. > from expert learners too #lrnchat
04:58:23 pm HollyJustice1: Q2) Design for needs and wants by 1) consider output options 2) ask them. Sales, IT developer, cust. support = all different needs. #lrnchat
04:58:30 pm LnDDave: @ruzuku Nothing stops you from asking people for feedback earlier, and yet it is often skipped. #lrnchat
04:58:33 pm briandusablon: Q2) Have you done anything for this audience before? What was feedback then? What worked, didn’t work? #lrnchat
04:58:37 pm RamonaMata: A2: create for all learners.  Include content that accommodates each style #lrnchat
04:58:38 pm oxala75: Q2) user testing, user testing, user testing. And then we test some users. #lrnchat
04:58:40 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) And … every project plan must include post review of measurement to determine what did(n’t) work for next time. #lrnchat
04:58:54 pm aaronesilvers: RT @briandusablon: Q2) Have you done anything for this audience before? What was feedback then? What worked, didn’t work? #lrnchat
04:59:01 pm lesleywprice: q2) think about what behaviour change you want to happen and reason why its not happening at the moment #lrnchat
04:59:06 pm LnDDave: RT @oxala75: Q2) user testing, user testing, user testing. And then we test some users. #lrnchat
04:59:13 pm NixTheNext: Q2) My babysitter has prob taken more of my CBTs than the average emp at my co! She’s my UAT tester😉 #lrnchat
04:59:13 pm briandusablon: Q2) prototype. prototype. prototype. And A/B testing… #lrnchat
04:59:26 pm briandusablon: RT @oxala75: Q2) user testing, user testing, user testing. And then we test some users. #lrnchat
04:59:27 pm HollyJustice1: RT @AndreaMay1: Q2)Have to start with thorough audience analysis and get to the user groups if you can, not just the managers or PMO #lrnchat
04:59:29 pm olliegardener: q2) Make sure “designing for” is the right approach. Assisting them assist each other can often be quicker & more flexible approach #lrnchat
04:59:29 pm amirelion: Q2) Show your clients mockups early and have them comment on design as well as content. #lrnchat
04:59:31 pm dbolen: RT @oxala75: Q2) user testing, user testing, user testing. And then we test some users. #lrnchat
04:59:36 pm AndrewJacobsLD: Q2 Too often the sponsor doesn’t know what they need and we design to want. Satisfied sponsors and dis-satisfied learners #lrnchat
04:59:39 pm briandusablon: Nice! RT @NixTheNext: Q2) My babysitter has prob taken more of my CBTs than the average emp at my co! Shes my UAT tester😉 #lrnchat
04:59:40 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) UAT must include a range of learners, both the exceptional and challenging employees. #lrnchat
04:59:47 pm StephenCHudson: Q2) Design based on previous experience with liked e-learning, create several mock-ups, buy-in and discussions before development #lrnchat
04:59:53 pm ruzuku: Q2) Being thoughtful about the audience for a course: their needs, goals, motivations – language & concepts they use. Learners 1st. #lrnchat
04:59:58 pm LnDDave: Q2) Assume that we DON’T know everything for a change.😉 #lrnchat
05:00:03 pm ThePrezenter: Q2) By getting the aims and objectives of my learning spot on from the start, and focusing on them throughout #lrnchat
05:00:04 pm briandusablon: @oxala75 and I think alike.🙂 #lrnchat
05:00:09 pm SharonWingron: RT @LnDDave: Q1) When was the last time you heard someone complain about the iphone interface? It just makes sense. Why can’t eLearning? #lrnchat
05:00:26 pm olliegardener: RT @LnDDave: Q2) Assume that we DONT know everything for a change.😉 #lrnchat
05:00:26 pm gillian_white: RT @oxala75: Q2) user testing, user testing, user testing. And then we test some users. #lrnchat
05:00:31 pm lesleywprice: q2) language is soooo important #lrnchat
05:00:40 pm oxala75: RT @CatMoore: Instead of leaving users out of process til end, try usability testing at beginning. Or maybe http://t.co/z6lYMNGA #lrnchat
05:00:50 pm briandusablon: Ah, but be careful. Don’t assume they’re idiots, either. RT @LnDDave: Q2) Assume that we DONT know everything for a change.😉 #lrnchat
05:00:52 pm NixTheNext: RT @ThePrezenter: Q2) get the aims/objectives of my learning spot on from the start, and focusing on them throughout <SO important! #lrnchat
05:01:00 pm dainadunlop: Q2) Being able to design for needs/wants starts with understanding what is meant by those needs/wants and why they’re important #lrnchat
05:01:16 pm ruzuku: Q2) … (con’td) … Ideally, we’d like to ground our user analysis even more rigorously in research (e.g. in-depth interviews). #lrnchat
05:01:17 pm LnDDave: @briandusablon Wait… they’re not? #lrnchat
05:01:22 pm AndrewJacobsLD: RT @olliegardener: q2) Make sure “designing for” is the right approach. Assisting them assist each other can often be quicker & more flexible approach #lrnchat
05:01:27 pm CapAnalytics: .@JD_Dillon yes definitely measure to see what didn’t work and improve next time. Also go beyond learners themselves for feedback. #lrnchat
05:01:31 pm lesleywprice: q2) to assume makes an ‘ass’ out of ‘u’ and ‘me’ #lrnchat
05:01:38 pm briandusablon: Good resource. RT @oxala75: RT @CatMoore: Try usability testing at beginning. Or maybe http://t.co/3k0HU83x #lrnchat
05:01:46 pm HollyJustice1: @CatMoore #lrnchat Agreed – usability testing is always good.  My hubby is my tester = general public. Thanks 4 tip on http://t.co/i4gePCRt.
05:01:47 pm aaronesilvers: RT @briandusablon: Good resource. RT @oxala75: RT @CatMoore: Try usability testing at beginning. Or maybe http://t.co/3k0HU83x #lrnchat
05:01:54 pm oxala75: the heavy responsibility of great minds. RT @briandusablon @oxala75 and I think alike.🙂 #lrnchat
05:02:08 pm briandusablon: @LnDDave re: Q2) goes back to knowing your audience. Some might be. Some not.  #lrnchat
05:02:18 pm olliegardener: q2) let them speak first. Asking for feedback and you’ve just forced them into your mode of thinking #lrnchat
05:02:35 pm eyiceyic: RT @HollyJustice1 @CatMoore #lrnchat Agreed – usability testing is always good.  My hubby is my tester = general… http://t.co/BDJ4rxJ8
05:02:45 pm SharonWingron: online or F2F, SMEs need facilitation skills & facilitation skills are required for successful learning transfer #astdstl #lrnchat #lrn_stl
05:03:02 pm briandusablon: @oxala75 Pushing up the industry is good honest work, eh? #lrnchat
05:03:12 pm AndreaMay1: RT @oxala75: Q2)User testing, then we test some users. #lrnchat <My experience, clients do UAT on systems, not on training programs. Sigh.
05:03:13 pm RamonaMata: Q2: know your audience.  Accommodate diff learning styles.  Focus on the obj #lrnchat
05:03:18 pm briandusablon: Good idea! RT @olliegardener: q2) let them speak first. Asking for feedback and youve just forced them into your mode of thinking #lrnchat
05:04:05 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) Sometimes people outside the audience are great testers. The content should be THAT easy to use. Shouldn’t need to know more. #lrnchat
05:04:14 pm briandusablon: Q2) First step: care. #lrnchat
05:04:28 pm HollyJustice1: RT @ruzuku: Q2) Being thoughtful about the audience for a course: their needs, goals, motivations – language & concepts they use. Learners 1st. #lrnchat
05:04:32 pm gillian_white: RT @olliegardener q2) let them speak first. Asking for feedback and you’ve just forced them into your mode of thinking #lrnchat < SO true!!
05:04:34 pm lesleywprice: q2) test alternatives as sometimes people don’t know what they want until they try  different things bit like trying on clothes🙂 #lrnchat
05:04:48 pm JD_Dillon: RT @briandusablon: Q2) First step: care. #lrnchat
05:04:55 pm AndreaMay1: RT @briandusablon: Q2) First step: care. #lrnchat <–AMEN!
05:04:55 pm ruzuku: @briandusablon Curious, how do you employ A/B testing in the context of learning? #lrnchat
05:04:57 pm OpenSesameNow: .@sparkandco made a good point- as developers, we’re usability testers for content from SMEs. Up to us to push for coherent info. #lrnchat
05:05:07 pm ruzuku: RT @lesleywprice: q2) think about what behaviour change you want to happen and reason why its not happening at the moment #lrnchat
05:05:14 pm aaronesilvers: RT @OpenSesameNow: .@sparkandco made a good point- as developers, we’re usability testers for content from SMEs. Up to us to push for coherent info. #lrnchat
05:05:17 pm ruzuku: RT @oxala75: Q2) user testing, user testing, user testing. And then we test some users. #lrnchat
05:05:23 pm oxala75: lol….but yeah. RT @briandusablon Q2) First step: care. #lrnchat
05:05:32 pm RamonaMata: RT @AndreaMay1: RT @briandusablon: Q2) First step: care. #lrnchat <–AMEN! #lrnchat
05:06:17 pm ruzuku: @CatMoore Curious how would you use http://t.co/M0nbezq3 early in a design process? #lrnchat
05:06:25 pm aaronesilvers: RT @briandusablon: Q2) First step: care. #lrnchat
05:06:43 pm briandusablon: @ruzuku you can build multiple prototypes to see which one users prefer. Characters, interface, interaction styles, etc. #lrnchat
05:07:15 pm CatMoore: @ruzuku Usability testing early on to test the prototypes–activities and interface #lrnchat
05:07:18 pm briandusablon: @oxala75 sad how often that’s not the case. I know we all have to churn stuff out, but a lot of folks just don’t care enough. #lrnchat
05:07:48 pm CatMoore: Often we skip doing prototypes, or we don’t include learners in the development & testing of prototypes #lrnchat
05:07:51 pm lesleywprice: RT @briandusablon @ruzuku you can build multiple prototypes to see which one users prefer < give alternatives #lrnchat
05:08:01 pm HollyJustice1: @briandusablon @NixTheNext RT Q2) My babysitter … Shes my UAT tester😉 Funny and true! I use my impatient hubby for testing. #lrnchat
05:08:20 pm RamonaMata: Q2:  work w a SME and then make it interesting lol #lrnchat
05:08:27 pm gillian_white: @lesleywprice “sometimes people don’t know what they want” < yes! and Apple knows this fact inside out- they tell US what we want  #lrnchat
05:08:34 pm lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the natural tendency to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
05:08:38 pm erikapaezv: RT @CatMoore: Often we skip doing prototypes, or we don’t include learners in the development & testing of prototypes #lrnchat
05:09:02 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the natural tendency to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
05:09:11 pm amirelion: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the natural tendency to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
05:09:15 pm OpenSesameNow: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the natural tendency to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
05:09:30 pm lesleywprice: RT @gillian_white “sometimes people dont know what they want” < yes! and Apple knows this fact inside out- so do Microsoft! #lrnchat
05:09:32 pm olliegardener: q2) Be open for different solutions, digg deeper, listen actively. Sometimes the true problem isn’t according to plan.. #lrnchat
05:09:33 pm dbolen: RT @CatMoore: Often we skip doing prototypes, or we dont include learners in the development & testing of prototypes #lrnchat
05:09:36 pm cellodav: @briandusablon @ruzuku multiple prototypes are expensive in terms of personnel for small outfits (I’m a dept of 0.8) #lrnchat
05:09:45 pm lesleywprice: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the natural tendency to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
05:09:48 pm briandusablon: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the natural tendency to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
05:09:55 pm RamonaMata: RT @RamonaMata: Q2 and Q3:  work w a SME and then make it interesting lol #lrnchat
05:09:56 pm AndreaMay1: RT @CatMoore: Often we skip prototypes, or don’t include learners in the dev. & testing #lrnchat <True, wish clients would build into plan
05:10:08 pm edCetraT: @briandusablon @reubentozman (side note.. i like your logo for #devlearn motorcyle mayhem… it’s cute #lrnchat
05:10:17 pm oxala75: @briandusablon it’s especially easy to not care when you allow urself to be divorced from the user workflow. #lrnchat
05:10:18 pm LnDDave: Q3) I love to take other’s elearning with my designer hat on – see what they did and why they did it. It expands my ideas. #lrnchat
05:10:21 pm cellodav: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the natural tendency to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
05:10:22 pm amirelion: Q3) Train yourself to listen #lrnchat
05:10:24 pm HollyJustice1: RT @lesleywprice: q2) test alternatives as sometimes people don’t know what they want until they try  different things bit like trying on clothes🙂 #lrnchat
05:10:24 pm AndreaMay1: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the natural tendency to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
05:10:28 pm briandusablon: @cellodav prototypes don’t have to be elaborate. #lrnchat
05:10:38 pm ruzuku: Q3) Design should be grounded in empathy for our learners. Build empathy through direct engagement & reflective listening. #lrnchat
05:10:47 pm AndrewJacobsLD: Q3 Design what I don’t like, review with SME and users, agree changes to improve. #lrnchat
05:10:59 pm AndrewJacobsLD: RT @LnDDave: Q3) I love to take other’s elearning with my designer hat on – see what they did and why they did it. It expands my ideas. #lrnchat
05:11:03 pm techherding: Showing up late, as usual, I’m Dick Carlson. Owned by 3 pugs in Sunny South Carolina. Builder of amazing learning, TechHerding.com #lrnchat
05:11:12 pm briandusablon: Yes. RT @oxala75: @briandusablon its especially easy to not care when you allow urself to be divorced from the user workflow. #lrnchat
05:11:15 pm lesleywprice: q3) no different from delivering F2F take one step back #lrnchat
05:11:20 pm gillian_white: Q3: by repeating “curse of knowledge, curse of knowledge” without pause while designing🙂 #lrnchat
05:11:21 pm AndreaMay1: RT @LnDDave: Q3) I love to take other’s elearning w/my designer hat on – see what they did and why. It expands my ideas. #lrnchat <-Me Too!
05:11:38 pm ruzuku: @cellodav @briandusablon Seriously! I was wondering how feasible this approach would be – sounds tough for us… #lrnchat
05:11:42 pm cellodav: Q3) similar to answers to Q2): involve users from the beginning #lrnchat
05:11:42 pm oxala75: Q3) needs analysis, informal personas, and always remembering that you know nothing about the subject. focus on the problem. #lrnchat
05:11:44 pm NixTheNext: Q3) The most successful new UIs have NOT given users customize options! Think iPhone, Facebook…  #lrnchat
05:11:49 pm RamonaMata: Q3: designing for me isnt an option.  Always about the learner #lrnchat
05:11:59 pm aaronesilvers: RT @NixTheNext: Q3) The most successful new UIs have NOT given users customize options! Think iPhone, Facebook…  #lrnchat
05:12:06 pm abigrace: RT @NixTheNext: @aaronesilvers: @lesleywprice IMHO- you shouldn’t have to train how to use training; The UI should be intuitive w/o instructions. #lrnchat
05:12:19 pm AndreaMay1: Q3) Don’t just do an audience analysis…actually apply what you have learned from it. #lrnchat
05:12:24 pm briandusablon: Q3) Again. Care. If you care about your users, you will design for them. #lrnchat
05:12:47 pm ruzuku: @CatMoore But how would you get meaningful feedback on content and interactions from a 15-20 minute test? #lrnchat
05:12:48 pm lesleywprice: q3) sometimes it feels like when we develop elearning we forget everything we have learned from traditional training #lrnchat
05:12:49 pm JD_Dillon: Q3) Experience other’s designs and see what people similar to your audience like to gain inspiration. #lrnchat
05:12:57 pm aaronesilvers: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the natural tendency to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
05:13:06 pm chrisstjohn: Q3: by using focus groups and making ISDs take each others courses. #lrnchat
05:13:10 pm NixTheNext: Q3) I design for myself ’cause I’m always right.😉 #lrnchat
05:13:12 pm cellodav: Q3) make use of others’ research too #lrnchat
05:13:17 pm aaronesilvers: RT @chrisstjohn: Q3: by using focus groups and making ISDs take each others courses. #lrnchat
05:13:23 pm StephenCHudson: Q3) Audience analysis and understanding help to put yourself in their shoes. Having to redo work helps you remember #lrnchat
05:13:33 pm amirelion: Q3) There are great website you can be inspired by.  #lrnchat
05:13:48 pm aaronesilvers: @amirelion What websites inspire you? #lrnchat
05:13:51 pm briandusablon: Q3) Use available resources & PLN to get feedback. Interviews. Know your users. Go to them & learn from them in their environment. #lrnchat
05:14:01 pm 4KM: As I read #lrnchat, it isn’t obvious which elements of design you’re including (content, context, collaboration, platform, UI…)
05:14:07 pm RamonaMata: RT @NixTheNext: Q3) I design for myself cause Im always right.😉 haha #lrnchat
05:14:09 pm JD_Dillon: @NixTheNext – Is #Facebook a good example of quality design given user reaction lately?😦 Definitely #Apple! #lrnchat
05:14:10 pm LnDDave: Q3) Go against your habits on occasion. Ever try brushing your teeth with the OTHER hand? It makes you think about it differently. #lrnchat
05:14:13 pm aaronesilvers: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Use available resources & PLN to get feedback. Interviews. Know your users. Go to them & learn from them in their environment. #lrnchat
05:14:16 pm ruzuku: @NixTheNext I agree re: customization, but are iPhone and Facebook realistic design exemplars for the problems #lrnchat folks work on?
05:14:16 pm briandusablon: RT @AndreaMay1: Q3) Dont just do an audience analysis…actually apply what you have learned from it. #lrnchat
05:14:26 pm lesleywprice: RT @amirelion: Q3) There are great website you can be inspired by < exactly but also learn from others mistakes #lrnchat
05:14:27 pm ruzuku: RT @oxala75: Q3) needs analysis, informal personas, and always remembering that you know nothing about the subject. focus on the problem. #lrnchat
05:14:34 pm amirelion: Q3) Tom ideas – http://t.co/KBHoTSYq #lrnchat
05:14:42 pm NixTheNext: @aaronesilvers: @amirelion What websites inspire you? < not a site; I’m inspired by infographics in Bloomberg Businessweek! #lrnchat
05:14:47 pm JD_Dillon: Q3) Start fresh on each project. Even if you will reuse some assets, don’t get stuck in a rut doing the same thing over and over. #lrnchat
05:14:55 pm JD_Dillon: RT @LnDDave: Q3) Go against your habits on occasion. Ever try brushing your teeth with the OTHER hand? It makes you think about it differently. #lrnchat
05:14:55 pm CatMoore: @ruzuku It doesn’t take a long time to see if stuff is easy to use or appealing. #lrnchat
05:15:02 pm aaronesilvers: @4KM Are not all those elements present in a learner’s experience? #lrnchat
05:15:10 pm LnDDave: RT @CatMoore: @ruzuku It doesn’t take a long time to see if stuff is easy to use or appealing. #lrnchat
05:15:13 pm aaronesilvers: RT @NixTheNext: @aaronesilvers: @amirelion What websites inspire you? < not a site; I’m inspired by infographics in Bloomberg Businessweek! #lrnchat
05:15:31 pm lesleywprice: q3) also review what you have done in the past…you can learn a lot from what didn’t go well #lrnchat
05:15:43 pm JD_Dillon: Q3) Ask yourself … “Can my mom use this?” #lrnchat
05:15:48 pm 4KM: @aaronesilvers Yes, I think all those elements are important for learners. Wondering if important for all designers? #lrnchat
05:15:58 pm aaronesilvers: Q3) Own your #fail #lrnchat
05:15:59 pm CatMoore: Usability testing is just that–usability. Not a deep analysis of whether people are learning. #lrnchat
05:16:02 pm NixTheNext: @ruzuku Absolutely! standardizing UI across curriculum eliminates need to learn new UI for each course; But UI must be good. #lrnchat
05:16:08 pm LnDDave: RT @aaronesilvers: Q3) Own your #fail #lrnchat
05:16:10 pm HollyJustice1: Q3) Design for others. Be open to what the audience does now to learn. Google hangouts? Blogs? Videos? MP3 while running? #lrnchat
05:16:14 pm ruzuku: @CatMoore Maybe I’m too used to traditional user testing🙂. Anyway, would love to see article or case study on this approach #lrnchat
05:16:15 pm NixTheNext: RT @JD_Dillon: Q3) Ask yourself … “Can my mom use this?” #lrnchat
05:16:15 pm oxala75: one slightly controversial piece of elearning UX design advice: don’t trust your SME(s). #lrnchat
05:16:20 pm lesleywprice: RT @aaronesilvers: Q3) Own your #fail #lrnchat
05:16:24 pm briandusablon: Q3) Don’t start inside a rapid development tool or PowerPoint. Start with a blank canvas. #lrnchat
05:16:25 pm amirelion: @lesleywprice and sometimes you forget the good things that you’ve done. Recall and reuse them. #lrnchat
05:16:27 pm AndreaMay1: Q3)Some clients want interface consistent with other stuff they have…even if it is bad to start with. I lose sleep over this. #lrnchat
05:16:46 pm 4KM: @aaronesilvers For ex, might one continue to play with UI when the issue is not enough context about value of training? #lrnchat
05:16:58 pm briandusablon: Q3) Go outside the industry – how are web designers doing it? How are app developers doing it? Learn from them. #lrnchat
05:17:13 pm NixTheNext: RT @oxala75: one slightly controversial piece of elearning UX design advice: dont trust your SME(s). <not controversy; sad truth😦 #lrnchat
05:17:22 pm lesleywprice: RT @amirelion and sometimes you forget the good things that youve done. Recall and reuse them <good practioners are reflective #lrnchat
05:17:28 pm ruzuku: RT @oxala75: @briandusablon it’s especially easy to not care when you allow urself to be divorced from the user workflow. #lrnchat
05:17:33 pm oxala75: @briandusablon yep – start with paper and pencil (i start with a whiteboard), if you can. #lrnchat
05:17:35 pm amirelion: Q3) Think about other great interfaces. e.g. iPhone, Twitter… #lrnchat
05:17:45 pm AndreaMay1: RT @oxala75: controversial piece of elearning UX design advice: don’t trust your SMEs. #lrnchat <LOL…never. They are content, not design.
05:17:48 pm JD_Dillon: Q3) Design doesn’t need to match previous work, but it should align to past learner experiences. #lrnchat
05:17:54 pm techherding: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Don’t start w/ rapid development tool or PowerPoint. Start with a blank canvas. #lrnchat << I love my WhiteBoard
05:18:00 pm aaronesilvers: That’s UX design… > MT @4KM: all those elements are important for learners. Wondering if important for all designers? #lrnchat
05:18:04 pm chrisstjohn: RT @lesleywprice: RT @aaronesilvers: Q3) Own your #fail #lrnchat
05:18:08 pm JD_Dillon: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Don’t start inside a rapid development tool or PowerPoint. Start with a blank canvas. #lrnchat
05:18:33 pm LnDDave: Q3) Think about raising the bar. If you’re measuring success by ‘Number of Completions’, design may be the least of your concerns. #lrnchat
05:18:45 pm cellodav: RT @techherding: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Dont start w/ rapid development tool or PowerPoint. Start with a blank canvas. #lrnchat
05:18:46 pm amirelion: Q3) A different technique – deconstruct all UI elements and reconstruct them differently #lrnchat
05:18:48 pm techherding: RT @NixTheNext: RT @oxala75:  dont trust your SME(s). Nothing wrong with that.  They’re too close to the trees. #lrnchat
05:18:57 pm ruzuku: RT @AndreaMay1: Q3)Some clients want interface consistent with other stuff they have…even if it is bad to start with. I lose sleep over this. #lrnchat
05:18:59 pm aaronesilvers: Q3) As I learned from @amandamolly this last weekend, sketch like it’s toilet paper. Lots of uses, meant to be disposed of after #lrnchat
05:19:08 pm briandusablon: Q3) Remember it’s about the entire experience. You may not be able to fix everything, but you can make some areas better. #lrnchat
05:19:10 pm CatMoore: @ruzuku Short usability test, small number of users per Jakob Nielsen: http://t.co/vxt9D5I5 #lrnchat
05:19:29 pm LnDDave: RT @aaronesilvers: Q3) As I learned from @amandamolly, sketch like it’s toilet paper. Lots of uses, meant to be disposed of after #lrnchat
05:19:35 pm lesleywprice: RT @JD_Dillon: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Start with a blank canvas < but don’t reinvent the wheel if its not broken don’t fix it! #lrnchat
05:19:45 pm ruzuku: @CatMoore I agree re: usability vs. analysis of learning. What do you recommend for the latter? #lrnchat
05:19:50 pm TrainerBrew: RT @JD_Dillon: Q3) Start fresh on each project. Even if you will reuse some assets, don’t get stuck in a rut doing the same thing over and over. #lrnchat
05:19:52 pm 4KM: If all elements of design are considered, wouldn’t trust and collaboration with SMEs and others be integral part of prep? #lrnchat
05:19:53 pm JD_Dillon: RT @LnDDave: RT @aaronesilvers: Q3) As I learned from @amandamolly, sketch like it’s toilet paper. Lots of uses, meant to be disposed of after #lrnchat
05:20:05 pm aaronesilvers: Wait, #lrnchat. Wrong Amanda cited in my previous tweet.
05:20:07 pm briandusablon: I’ve never trusted SMEs. They like to print in full color to point out a missing comma. #lrnchat
05:20:17 pm TrainerBrew: RT @JD_Dillon: Q2) As @LnDDave points out, use reliable audience members to test your content during development/UAT, not just implementation. #lrnchat
05:20:19 pm ruzuku: @JD_Dillon Really? Is your mom the target audience for your project?🙂 #lrnchat
05:20:30 pm oxala75: guys, i’m currently into this book http://t.co/GLipn5t9 re: UX design. Super helpful and very tactically-oriented #lrnchat
05:20:37 pm CatMoore: Why you only need to test with 5 users: http://t.co/7bMeCDf2 @ruzuku #lrnchat
05:20:41 pm OpenSesameNow: Great advice. RT @briandusablon: Q3) Don’t start [design] w/ rapid development tool or PowerPoint. Start with a blank canvas. #lrnchat
05:21:03 pm HollyJustice1: RT @amirelion: Q3) A different technique – deconstruct all UI elements and reconstruct them differently #lrnchat
05:21:05 pm techherding: Very first version of Windows put a button that said “Start” in the corner, used to close down system.  It’s still there today. #lrnchat
05:21:08 pm dainadunlop: Actually I’ve worked with some great SMEs RT @briandusablon: I’ve never trusted SMEs. #lrnchat
05:21:08 pm oxala75: RT @briandusablon: I’ve never trusted SMEs. They like to print in full color to point out a missing comma. #lrnchat
05:21:12 pm chrisstjohn: @aaronesilvers Q3) great websites? Why http://t.co/tVFY4jce of course. 12.5Million hours of free seat time last year. #lrnchat
05:21:17 pm NixTheNext: Q3) I design in my rapid dev tool ’cause otherwise I sound like this trying to describe functionality http://t.co/bQzz1RdN #lrnchat
05:21:37 pm CatMoore: @ruzuku To evaluate whether people learned, measure performance change on the job. #lrnchat
05:21:45 pm NixTheNext: LOL RT @briandusablon: Ive never trusted SMEs. They like to print in full color to point out a missing comma. #lrnchat
05:21:51 pm oxala75: huh. guess we’ve been doing it right by accident. RT @CatMoore Why you only need to test with 5 users: http://t.co/zBrfTYDS @ruzuku #lrnchat
05:21:53 pm TrainerBrew: RT @LnDDave: @ruzuku Nothing stops you from asking people for feedback earlier, and yet it is often skipped. #lrnchat
05:21:58 pm lesleywprice: RT @CatMoore: @ruzuku To evaluate whether people learned, measure performance change on the job. #lrnchat
05:22:02 pm lrnchat: Q4) How do you evaluate your current learning systems? How do you incorporate feedback to continuously improve these systems? #lrnchat
05:22:06 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you evaluate your current learning systems? How do you incorporate feedback to continuously improve these systems? #lrnchat
05:22:34 pm lesleywprice: @lrnchat: Q4) How do you evaluate  current learning systems? How do you incorporate feedback to continuously improve these systems? #lrnchat
05:22:53 pm techherding: “The evaluations continue until the performance improves.” #lrnchat
05:23:06 pm ruzuku: @CatMoore Totally! Understand, use & love discount usability testing. But that’s for iterative improvement of application UI… #lrnchat
05:23:26 pm amirelion: Q4) Tough one. I no we do it, never thought of it conciously how we do it… #lrnchat
05:23:40 pm michaelwillits: RT @OpenSesameNow: Great advice. RT @briandusablon: Q3) Don’t start [design] w/ rapid development tool or PowerPoint. Start with a blank canvas. #lrnchat
05:23:53 pm lesleywprice: q4) measure business impact don’t rely on happy sheets #lrnchat
05:23:55 pm OpenSesameNow: @techherding Heh. I’ll one-up you- I like to make sure evaluations are mandatory, at least 10-20 pages long, with long-form answers #lrnchat
05:23:58 pm amirelion: no>>know LOL #lrnchat
05:24:06 pm HollyJustice1: Q3) In design don’t assume you know it all. Look at other’s examples online. #lrnchat
05:24:08 pm AndreaMay1: Q4) As a consultant, I rarely get this opportunity…which is a bummer! #lrnchat
05:24:18 pm ruzuku: @CatMoore how does discount user testing help us understand learners’ engagement with content/activities? improve learning design? #lrnchat
05:24:24 pm AndrewJacobsLD: Q4 Don’t evaluate learning, evaluate development.  Keep your eye on the bigger prize, not how happy your users are. #lrnchat
05:24:56 pm lesleywprice: q4) if you only rely on happy sheets learners might love it but if it has no impact on the business #whatsthepoint ? #lrnchat
05:25:03 pm cellodav: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you eval your current learning systems? How do you incorp feedback to continuously improve these systems? #lrnchat
05:25:04 pm JD_Dillon: @ruzuku – Actually was at one point (both worked for Disney)! #lrnchat
05:25:29 pm chrisstjohn: Q4) There are a few LMS evaluation templates out there that are quite good. I will post a couple in tonights #lrnchat
05:25:32 pm cellodav: Q4) Standardized exams (just kidding!) #lrnchat
05:25:38 pm LnDDave: Q4) Speaking honestly? I’m like many who evaluate poorly because we’re pressured to move on to the next thing. #lrnchat
05:25:56 pm ExpertusONE: RT @lesleywprice: RT @CatMoore: @ruzuku To evaluate whether people learned, measure performance change on the job. #lrnchat
05:25:58 pm lesleywprice: RT @LnDDave: Q4) Speaking honestly? Im like many who evaluate poorly because were pressured to move on to the next thing. #lrnchat
05:26:00 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) Right now, living w/ level 1 and 2. Soon will incorporate more regular analysis, including focus groups and real-time comments. #lrnchat
05:26:00 pm CatMoore: @ruzuku I’m not saying that user testing measures engagement with content. It tests ease of use. #lrnchat
05:26:06 pm JaneBozarth: @oxala75 hey Craig how you doin’?  #lrnchat
05:26:06 pm web20education: #pln #edchat #ukedchat #lrnchat join free now #edtech20 #socialmedia #curation project on #p2pu group http://t.co/UUpVd2VH #opened11 #wcet11
05:26:07 pm web20education: #pln #edchat #ukedchat #lrnchat join free now #edtech20 #socialmedia #curation project on #p2pu group… http://t.co/9cfmOdm8
05:26:08 pm oxala75: Q4) every one of our courses includes a “give us feedback!” bit that leads to a survey. We get several reviews/month this way. #lrnchat
05:26:09 pm amirelion: Some tips on UI design: http://t.co/Oga72pJ3 #lrnchat
05:26:17 pm ruzuku: @CatMoore OK… but we work on professional & personal development, outside the context of a specific workplace🙂 #lrnchat
05:26:29 pm chrisstjohn: Q4) recently evaluated 387 LMSes. A template is the only was to cull out the wannabes. #lrnchat
05:26:54 pm StephenCHudson: Sorry to get pulled away from #lrnchat .  Excited to see everyone at #DevLearn !
05:27:01 pm oxala75: @JaneBozarth hey Jane🙂 pretty good. My direct report tipped me off to today’s #lrnchat, so I thought i’d make a cameo appearance.
05:27:02 pm NixTheNext: Q4) Unfortunately, the E in ADDIE truly is silent for us. #lrnchat
05:27:08 pm cellodav: Q4) give users ability to contact design team directly, bypassing assessors #lrnchat
05:27:23 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) Don’t wait for formalized feedback mechanisms, give learners a channel to provide opinions before/during/after training. #lrnchat
05:27:54 pm CatMoore: RT @NixTheNext: Q4) Unfortunately, the E in ADDIE truly is silent for us. #lrnchat
05:28:09 pm HollyJustice1: #lrnchat Q4) Customer surveys, course evaluations tell part of story. Rest is listening. I like to attend mtgs as fly on wall to hear buzz.
05:28:28 pm AndreaMay1: RT @NixTheNext: Q4) Unfortunately, the E in ADDIE truly is silent for us. #lrnchat <–Yep, too often, Sigh again.
05:28:31 pm amirelion: Q4) I wonder if we could use a test group approcah. Have more than one design and see different uses of them… #lrnchat
05:28:31 pm oxala75: Q4) in addition to surveys, we do synchronous screensharing sessions where users navigate the elearning while one of us watches. #lrnchat
05:28:39 pm ruzuku: Q4) Besides feedback surveys and looking at participation statistics? Not sure we have any amazing techniques. Open to ideas… #lrnchat
05:28:43 pm chrisstjohn: @techherding No Sir, I am a government employee.. (same thing?) #lrnchat
05:28:59 pm ruzuku: RT @JD_Dillon: Q4) Don’t wait for formalized feedback mechanisms, give learners a channel to provide opinions before/during/after training. #lrnchat
05:29:06 pm jmass: Q4) Iterative design methodology coupled with ongoing customer input :-)  #lrnchat
05:29:17 pm oxala75: Q4) we ask/answer some questions but don’t do a lot of talking, otherwise. We let the user navigate, ask questions, make comments. #lrnchat
05:29:20 pm aaronesilvers: RT @NixTheNext: Q4) Unfortunately, the E in ADDIE truly is silent for us. #lrnchat
05:29:21 pm CatMoore: Q4) Evaluation: Design to meet a measurable performance goal, then compare before & after measurements. #lrnchat
05:29:32 pm cellodav: @NixTheNext http://t.co/DOmjbejf #lrnchat
05:29:57 pm NixTheNext: Q4) I’ve started embedding Google Spreadsheet forms to collect quick, “was this helpful” feedback. #lrnchat
05:30:03 pm ruzuku: RT @LnDDave: Q4) Speaking honestly? I’m like many who evaluate poorly because we’re pressured to move on to the next thing. #lrnchat
05:30:09 pm lesleywprice: RT @CatMoore: Q4) Design to meet measurable performance goal, then compare before & after measurements <= business impact #lrnchat
05:30:23 pm ruzuku: RT @AndrewJacobsLD: Q4 Don’t evaluate learning, evaluate development.  Keep your eye on the bigger prize, not how happy your users are. #lrnchat
05:30:28 pm LnDDave: Q4) I look forward to having greater access to tech-based feedback; did the user get lost in the experience? #lrnchat
05:30:29 pm AndrewJacobsLD: @ruzuku Link 2 forums and chatrooms for user discussion. Include pre/post briefing questions as discussion topics for line managers #lrnchat
05:30:47 pm ExpertusONE: RT @CatMoore: Why you only need to test with 5 users: http://t.co/7bMeCDf2 @ruzuku #lrnchat
05:30:48 pm NixTheNext: I know! Count up those RT’s… it’s 5:00 somewhere😉 RT @cellodav: @NixTheNext http://t.co/WikUM6oD #lrnchat
05:30:55 pm cellodav: Q4) When evals are submitted, read them and act #lrnchat
05:31:05 pm JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
05:31:22 pm JD_Dillon: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
05:31:33 pm LnDDave: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
05:31:36 pm sparkandco: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
05:31:40 pm chrisstjohn: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
05:31:40 pm HollyJustice1: #lrnchat Q4) I like to ask leaders 1-on-1 if training worked for their team. Holds both of us accountable.
05:31:47 pm lesleywprice: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating training is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
05:32:03 pm oxala75: Q4) After feedback gathering period, idea is to meet w/stakeholders to revisit the elearning: did it help users do their jobs? #lrnchat
05:32:12 pm ruzuku: RT @NixTheNext: Q4) I’ve started embedding Google Spreadsheet forms to collect quick, “was this helpful” feedback. #lrnchat
05:32:15 pm NixTheNext: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating training is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
05:32:21 pm ruzuku: @NixTheNext Yup, we use Google forms also… #lrnchat
05:32:31 pm ruzuku: RT @CatMoore: Q4) Evaluation: Design to meet a measurable performance goal, then compare before & after measurements. #lrnchat
05:33:00 pm techherding: Yeah, when I hear people asking if they liked the lunch and if the A/C was ok, I’m off to the next project. #lrnchat
05:33:00 pm aaronesilvers: Well played > RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
05:33:07 pm ColinSteed: RT @CatMoore: Q4) Evaluation: Design to meet a measurable performance goal, then compare before & after measurements. #lrnchat
05:33:15 pm oxala75: Q4) chasing down learning application (applied learning…tomato, tomahto) is key — and often neglected #lrnchat
05:33:22 pm NixTheNext: @ruzuku We should tawk😉 I’m struggling with passing variables from #adobecaptivate via javascript w/o iframe embedding… #lrnchat
05:33:30 pm lesleywprice: RT @ruzuku: RT @NixTheNext: Q4)  “was this helpful” < sounds a bit like happy sheets helpful does not always mean effective #lrnchat
05:33:38 pm JaneBozarth: @sue_freeman1 is this about #lrnchat? use the tag so it’ll show up —
05:33:39 pm sue_freeman1: #lrnchat  You must measure the result of the training — not always easy… usually takes effort on the part of non-trainers: reluctant!
05:34:13 pm _Kavi: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
05:34:32 pm ruzuku: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
05:34:39 pm IntrepidLS: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
05:34:48 pm oxala75: @JaneBozarth wasn’t that Brinkerhoff line quoted in one of your articles? #lrnchat
05:34:54 pm sue_freeman1: #lrnchat  One must measure the result of the training — not always easy… usually takes effort on the part of non-trainers: reluctant!
05:34:54 pm ExpertusONE: RT @CatMoore RT @ruzuku > Ah, Jakob Nielsen on #UEX testing. He’s brilliant at keeping it simple (both process & results) #lrnchat
05:35:18 pm coyenator: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
05:35:20 pm JaneBozarth: eLearning Guild 2011 report on social media for learning: 80% plan to “ask participants if they thought it was useful”.  #lrnchat
05:35:24 pm cellodav: Q4 How do we evaluate an experience like lrnchat? The learning is successful but the UI is no more than a structured experience. #lrnchat
05:35:31 pm NixTheNext: @lesleywprice it’s only as good as follow-up- if answer = no, gotta find out why/what would’ve been. collecting is just 1st hurdle #lrnchat
05:35:33 pm JaneBozarth: @oxala75 at least. #lrnchat
05:35:42 pm OpenSesameNow: @janebozarth My goodness- Your tweet about Brinkerhoff just took over my entire #lrnchat HootSuite stream. That’s world domination.
05:35:54 pm ColinSteed: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat >Love that!
05:35:58 pm techherding: One of the ways I measure if my training/learning product was effective is is they keep paying me to do more. #lrnchat
05:36:00 pm JaneBozarth: @cellodav use the new Wenger measures for social media/interactions/outcomes #lrnchat
05:36:06 pm lrnchat: Q5) What tools do you use to design (not build) learning/performance solutions? What tools for A/B testing? Analytics? Prototyping? #lrnchat
05:36:11 pm JaneBozarth: @OpenSesameNow imagine. #lrnchat
05:36:22 pm JaneBozarth: @OpenSesameNow finally. #lrnchat
05:36:24 pm ruzuku: @lesleywprice @NixTheNext Here’s an example feedback form I’ve used in academic context (http://t.co/KixwyrQ4) – thoughts? #lrnchat
05:36:24 pm lesleywprice: q4) Unfortunately although it helps happy learner does not always = productive employee …is learning making a difference #lrnchat
05:36:30 pm SimonSalento: RT @AndrewJacobsLD: Q4 Don’t evaluate learning, evaluate development.  Keep your eye on the bigger prize, not how happy your users are. #lrnchat
05:36:49 pm IntrepidLS: RT @JD_Dillon: Q4) Don’t wait for formalized feedback mechanisms, give learners a channel to provide opinions before/during/after training. #lrnchat
05:36:56 pm sowhatfaith: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
05:37:08 pm bschlenker: RT @aaronesilvers: I feel bad for @criticallearner but love his post: What happens in Vegas won’t stay in Vegas http://t.co/ut5XTUj4 #lrnchat #DevLearn
05:37:12 pm cellodav: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What tools do u use to design (not build) learning/perf solns? What tools for A/B testing? Analytics? Prototyping? #lrnchat
05:37:19 pm onsSara: jumping into #lrnchat very late… #lrnchat
05:37:23 pm lesleywprice: @ruzuku@NixTheNext Heres an example feedback form Ive used in academic context (http://t.co/lyZlmp2d) -Tks will have a look🙂 #lrnchat
05:37:29 pm AndreaMay1: RT @techherding: One way I measure if my training product was effective is they keep paying me to do more. #lrnchat <Yes -love that metric!
05:37:30 pm dbolen: Q5 remember you can use pen/paper to build prototypes #lrnchat
05:37:38 pm OpenSesameNow: @janebozarth You, ma’am, have a knack for The Twitters. #lrnchat
05:37:41 pm amirelion: Q5) Paper and pencil. Whiteboard. Wireframe tools. Other people more creative than myself. #lrnchat
05:37:46 pm lesleywprice: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What tools do u use to design (not build) learning/perf solns? What tools for A/B testing? Analytics? Prototyping? #lrnchat
05:37:47 pm ruzuku: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What tools do you use to design (not build) learning/performance solutions? What tools for A/B testing? Analytics? Prototyping? #lrnchat
05:37:51 pm oxala75: Q5) PowerPoint, paper and pencil for learning/perf solution design #lrnchat
05:38:01 pm cellodav: RT @dbolen: Q5 remember you can use pen/paper to build prototypes #lrnchat
05:38:19 pm JaneBozarth: The info on Wenger -assessing value in communities- is in my “Truth About Social Learning” links at http://t.co/VDaghCsV #lrnchat
05:38:30 pm oxala75: Q5) Vovici for creating/hosting surveys for user testing #lrnchat
05:38:40 pm cellodav: @JaneBozarth thanks! learned more again🙂 #lrnchat
05:38:55 pm lesleywprice: q5) mind mapping can be really helpful when building scenarios #lrnchat
05:39:15 pm AndreaMay1: Q5) Whatever works for the client and project…paper, PPT, online collaboration tools, etc. #lrnchat
05:39:24 pm HollyJustice1: RT @oxala75: Q4) we ask/answer some questions but don’t do a lot of talking, otherwise. We let the user navigate, ask questions, make comments. #lrnchat
05:39:31 pm oxala75: Q5) Google Analytics and our hosting/distribution solutions metrics tools for analytics #lrnchat
05:39:36 pm JD_Dillon: Q5) White boards go a long way for storyboarding/design. #lrnchat
05:40:00 pm ExpertusONE: RT @ColinSteed RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating training is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage” #lrnchat >Love it!
05:40:17 pm onsSara: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What tools do you use to design (not build) learning/performance solutions? What tools for A/B testing? Analytics? Prototyping? #lrnchat
05:40:31 pm ruzuku: Q5) Well, obviously we use http://t.co/NhVohgU5 to design & host courses & learning communities🙂 #lrnchat
05:41:00 pm amirelion: Q5) I also use creative ideation techniques such as SCAMPER, SIT and more. #lrnchat
05:41:27 pm OpenSesameNow: @lrnchat We have a heatmapping tool for our website. Helps us understand where users eyes are attracted- not always what we expect! #lrnchat
05:41:44 pm ruzuku: Q5) Also rely on Google Docs for drafting text, Workflowy for collaborative outlining, & Behance Dot Grid notebooks for sketching! #lrnchat
05:42:24 pm oxala75: Q5) sometimes we use MockFlow for wireframing #lrnchat
05:42:24 pm ruzuku: RT @techherding: One of the ways I measure if my training/learning product was effective is is they keep paying me to do more. #lrnchat
05:42:37 pm HollyJustice1: @oxala75 Thanks for book tip  RT http://t.co/iE3r1wL8 re: UX design. Super helpful and very tactically-oriented. #lrnchat
05:42:47 pm chrisstjohn: @OpenSesameNow which heatmapper do you use? #lrnchat
05:42:53 pm NixTheNext: @OpenSesameNow The guy who invented that heatmapping tool is in my extended family. #lrnchat
05:43:00 pm davefoord: RT @lesleywprice: q5) mind mapping can be really helpful when building scenarios #lrnchat <- mind mapping useful for lots of things
05:43:09 pm oxala75: @HollyJustice1 no problem! #lrnchat
05:44:11 pm bschlenker: RT @HollyJustice1: @oxala75 Thanks for book tip  RT http://t.co/iE3r1wL8 re: UX design. Super helpful and very tactically-oriented. #lrnchat
05:44:42 pm AndrewJacobsLD: Q5 Design – Possibility thinking, lots of blank paper, caffeine. #lrnchat
05:45:02 pm ruzuku: RT @AndrewJacobsLD: Q5 Design – Possibility thinking, lots of blank paper, caffeine. #lrnchat
05:45:05 pm oxala75: ok, #lrnchat folks – i have to get some lunch and get back on my storyboard grind. ciao!
05:45:14 pm koutropoulos: RT @JaneBozarth: The info on Wenger -assessing value in communities- is in my “Truth About Social Learning” links at http://t.co/VDaghCsV #lrnchat
05:45:23 pm NixTheNext: RT @AndrewJacobsLD: Q5 Design – Possibility thinking, lots of blank paper, caffeine. #lrnchat
05:45:31 pm lesleywprice: RT @AndrewJacobsLD: Q5 Design – Possibility thinking, lots of blank paper, caffeine < or a bottle of wine🙂
#lrnchat
05:45:33 pm bschlenker: RT @JaneBozarth: @cellodav use the new Wenger measures for social media/interactions/outcomes #lrnchat
05:46:16 pm koutropoulos: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
05:46:45 pm ruzuku: +1 … @oxala75 guys, i’m currently into this book http://t.co/RL2aWW5a re: UX design. Super helpful and very tactically-oriented #lrnchat
05:46:45 pm AndreaMay1: @oxala75  Have fun with that😉 #lrnchat
05:46:52 pm NixTheNext: Q5 is a stumper, eh? #lrnchat
05:47:06 pm oxala75: sorry, one more thing re: Q5) time as a design tool. Leave yourself LOTS of time to just think. #lrnchat Ok, now I’m gone.
05:47:38 pm ruzuku: @lesleywprice I think you and @AndrewJacobsLD are going to be designing very different learning experiences!🙂 #lrnchat
05:47:40 pm aaronesilvers: That was a bit by design😀 > RT @NixTheNext: Q5 is a stumper, eh? #lrnchat
05:47:56 pm AndreaMay1: RT @NixTheNext: Q5 is a stumper, eh? #lrnchat <–Yeah, hard to answer in 140!
05:48:03 pm AndrewJacobsLD: Q5 Tools – Depends on solution. Esolutions in a hidden part of DLE with experienced testers and SME. #lrnchat
05:48:23 pm NixTheNext: RT @oxala75: one more thing re: Q5) time as a design tool. Leave yourself LOTS of time to just think. #lrnchat Ok, now Im gone. #lrnchat
05:48:58 pm lesleywprice: @ruzuku:  I think you and @AndrewJacobsLD are going to be designing very different learning experiences!🙂 lol! #lrnchat
05:49:20 pm HollyJustice1: @NixTheNext @OpenSesameNow Heatmapping tool!  Wow! #lrnchat
05:49:35 pm NixTheNext: Q5) I go straight to my dev tool (after caffeine & lots o thinking). Prob not the best, but it works for me… #lrnchat
05:49:56 pm meganbowe: Q5) Analytics, to figure out where to research. Then prototyping fixes in those areas #lrnchat
05:50:03 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Please reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs are welcome. #lrnchat
05:50:38 pm cellodav: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Please reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs are welcome. #lrnchat
05:51:02 pm Laura4Ts: RT @ColinSteed: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat >Love that!
05:51:08 pm onsSara: Q5) tools for A/B testing?…pilot test in LMS w/broad range of students who complete a review form, then make “final” edits #lrnchat
05:51:14 pm JD_Dillon: Qwrap) JD from O-town, enjoyed more great thought partnership from #lrnchat!
05:51:53 pm aaronesilvers: Qwrap) Aaron Silvers, Community Manager for @learningreg and @ADL_Initiative. Speaking at #DevLearn. Shameless plugs to follow… #lrnchat
05:51:55 pm NixTheNext: Qwrap) Becky, Chicago, eLearning Dev’er primarily #AdobeCaptivate and #Lectora. T-minus 1 week for #Devlearn tweetup #lrnchat
05:52:06 pm ruzuku: @CatMoore thanks for your thoughts & links during #lrnchat today!
05:52:17 pm amirelion: Qwrap) Amir Elion, Kineo Israel. Please spread the word of Hebrew #lrnisr. Next meeting Nov 8, 2pm Israel time. #lrnchat
05:52:31 pm agilbertred: RT @CatMoore: Usability testing is just that–usability. Not a deep analysis of whether people are learning. #lrnchat
05:52:41 pm AndreaMay1: Qwrap)Andrea May in Minneapolis…Inst. Designer, training developer, and expert in SAP and propane. Visit us at http://www.dashe.com/blog #lrnchat
05:52:42 pm JaneBozarth: Looking forward to seeing many of you  next week at #DevLearn! Join me for “Social Learning-Executives”, elearning design, more  #lrnchat
05:52:43 pm aaronesilvers: US Sec.Ed. @arneduncan & US CTO @aneeshchopra will announce the release of @learningreg on 11/7 at the SETDA Leadership Summit. #lrnchat
05:52:43 pm CatMoore: @ruzuku You’re welcome. Thanks for participating. #lrnchat
05:53:08 pm JaneBozarth: RT @CatMoore: Usability testing is just that–usability. Not a deep analysis of whether people are learning. #lrnchat
05:53:29 pm amirelion: Thanks for a very interesting session. #lrnchat
05:53:29 pm AndrewJacobsLD: Qwrap L&D in UK, getting L&D at the front of business thinking, not an afterthought. http://t.co/rxS6mRf2 #lrnchat
05:53:34 pm dbolen: Qwrap Don Bolen hope to see some of y’all at #DevLearn BTW – speaking at said event – Agile PM and MSA + other acronyms  #lrnchat
05:53:42 pm KavuBob: RT @aaronesilvers: US Sec.Ed. @arneduncan & US CTO @aneeshchopra will announce the release of @learningreg on 11/7 at the SETDA Leadership Summit. #lrnchat
05:53:48 pm cellodav: David Macdonald – gopher and ed techie at @ThorneloeUni in Sudbury, ON (1100 km east of Fargo ND) #lrnchat
05:53:51 pm chrisstjohn: Qwrap: Chris StJohn: Goverati @ DAU, the WalMart of Learning. Sunday Avatarian and supporter of the Rebel Alliance ((usually) #lrnchat
05:54:08 pm lesleywprice: qwrap)Lesley,UK check out prelim results of UKs biggest Learning Technology survey @towardsmaturity http://t.co/BZ3GKOWi #lrnchat
05:54:10 pm AndreaMay1: Thanks everyone for a great chat today!  Catch you all next week🙂 #lrnchat
05:54:26 pm CatMoore: Qwrap) Thanks all! Me: blog at http://t.co/wFg2yZna; teaching 2-day design certificate at Training 2012. #lrnchat
05:54:39 pm AndrewJacobsLD: Good #lrnchat session again today – thanks all.
05:54:41 pm aaronesilvers: Imma drop a whole lot of information with @mike_rustici on @projecttincan and details on where SCORM is going next at #DevLearn #lrnchat
05:54:43 pm cellodav: gotta love lrnchat – always end up with at least 5 new browser tabs open – thanks everyone! #lrnchat
05:54:50 pm ruzuku: Abe from http://t.co/NhVohgU5 . We’re a learning platform with good UX🙂. Check out our free intro course: http://t.co/rpADOHee #lrnchat
05:55:00 pm ruzuku: RT @AndrewJacobsLD: Good #lrnchat session again today – thanks all.
05:55:22 pm ruzuku: RT @amirelion: Thanks for a very interesting session. #lrnchat
05:55:41 pm sparkandco: Sad to have missed #lrnchat today, looked like a very pertinent discussion!
05:55:50 pm dbolen: RT @cellodav: gotta love lrnchat – always end up with at least 5 new browser tabs open – thanks everyone! Instapaper busy 2day! #lrnchat
05:55:51 pm AndreaMay1: @aaronesilvers  Oh, I’ll have to check out the @lrndave back-channel on that one #lrnchat
05:56:02 pm aaronesilvers: Imma share insights on technology trends that will impact you and your company, and how new tech fits at #DevLearn #lrnchat
05:56:15 pm ccbranham: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
05:56:33 pm BenMorton2: RT @CatMoore: Often we skip doing prototypes, or we don’t include learners in the development & testing of prototypes #lrnchat
05:56:37 pm HollyJustice1: Qwrap) Thanks for great ideas today. Holly from Portland OR USA. http://t.co/5J3It10K  Sorry for the slowness- IE trouble today. #lrnchat
05:56:40 pm aaronesilvers: And there are several uncredited cameos planned in other workshops and presentations at #DevLearn #lrnchat
05:57:30 pm TerrenceWing: Last day 2 register. C #sociallearning behind the firewall @ the #Social Ecosystem Open House http://t.co/Tg9UAaYP #astd #lrnchat
05:58:10 pm Organicwal: RT @AndrewJacobsLD: Good #lrnchat session again today – thanks all.> Interesting read on a long boring train ride.
05:58:19 pm AndreaMay1: RT @AndreaMay1: @aaronesilvers  Oh, I’ll have to check out the @lrndave back-channel on that one #lrnchat >Oops – meant @LnDDave
05:59:12 pm lrnchat: Thanks for joining #lrnchat. We’ll post the transcript on http://t.co/O8x38OGR See you again next Thursday (or later tonight).
06:00:11 pm meganbowe: RT @CatMoore: Why you only need to test with 5 users: http://t.co/UvvB7nVr  #lrnchat
06:00:22 pm sparkandco: RT @oxala75: sorry, one more thing re: Q5) time as a design tool. Leave yourself LOTS of time to just think. #lrnchat <great point!
06:00:38 pm Spongelab: World’s deadliest spiders could hold the key to treating breast cancer | Mail Online http://t.co/NupwYHuB #edtech #edchat #lrnchat #scichat
06:00:53 pm bschlenker: RT @aaronesilvers: And there are several uncredited cameos planned in other workshops and presentations at #DevLearn #lrnchat
06:02:21 pm ZAX_CLO: ‚Äú@JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat‚Äù
06:02:40 pm petercasebow: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @CatMoore: Usability testing is just that–usability. Not a deep analysis of whether people are learning. #lrnchat
06:03:10 pm bschlenker: #lrnchat will be LIVE during DemoFest next week at #DevLearn – a twitter chat IRF is something interesting to watch – don’t miss it!
06:04:16 pm JaneBozarth: RT @bschlenker: #lrnchat will be LIVE during DemoFest next week at #DevLearn – – dont miss it! #lrnchat
06:04:22 pm anicole87: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @CatMoore: Usability testing is just that–usability. Not a deep analysis of whether people are learning. #lrnchat

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