Transcript 15 Sept 2011 (late)

08:30:51 pm lrnchat: Welcome to #lrnchat! How have you been?
08:31:13 pm minutebio: RT @criticallearner: Hey tweeples, duck to avoid a flock of tweets for the next 90.  Or better yet, join in on the  #lrnchat
08:31:22 pm lrnchat: Rule 1 for #lrnchat: Introduce yourself. What’s your location? Focus? Favorite topics? What brings you here?
08:31:48 pm magdaZINE: Going to eavesdrop on #lrnchat while I do my invoicing:)
08:31:50 pm gwoodill: Tonight #lrnchat focuses on evidence of learning. Will be there for the next 90 minutes. http://lrnchat.com  #lrnchat
08:32:00 pm ReubenTozman: I already disagree with everything that is going to be said on #lrnchat 2nite. #makingfriends
08:32:22 pm lrnchat: Rule 2. Stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 15 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
08:32:38 pm JaneBozarth: @ReubenTozman lol #lrnchat
08:32:44 pm JaneBozarth: RT @ReubenTozman: I already disagree with everything that is going to be said on #lrnchat 2nite. #makingfriends #lrnchat
08:32:52 pm gwoodill: Gary Woodill, in the country in Ontario, Canada. Ready to disagree with everything that Reuben T. says.🙂 #lrnchat
08:32:53 pm Quinnovator: it’s that time again, prepare for a #lrnchat meme-stream, duck or, better yet, join in!
08:33:23 pm lrnchat: Rule 3. When tweeting your response, complete thoughts help followers outside #lrnchat learn from you.
08:33:23 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, generally freelancing in learning, Plano, Texas, interest social learning (not the product w/800 number) #lrnchat
08:33:26 pm criticallearner: @reubentozman sounds like you just accepted a position with one of my clients! #lrnchat Free your mind and the rest will follow
08:33:26 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman, eLearning Designer in Baltimore, MD #lrnchat
08:33:46 pm ReubenTozman: RT @gwoodill: Gary Woodill, in the country in Ontario, Canada. Ready to disagree with everything that Reuben T. says. :-)i disagree #lrnchat
08:33:53 pm KoreenOlbrish: It’s about that time! Get ready for 90 minutes of action-packed discussion during  #lrnchat
08:34:22 pm lrnchat: Rule 4: Remember to include #lrnchat in all posts. http://t.co/3Chbdd9N http://t.co/iiHBQBVP & http://twubs.com automate that.
08:34:22 pm kelly_smith01: #lrnchat school is back🙂
08:34:26 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat intro> David Glow, Chief Learning Architect, Tampa, FL
08:34:33 pm KoreenOlbrish: Way to open strong, @reubentozman  #lrnchat
08:34:41 pm CatMoore: It’s #lrnchat time, so prepare for extra tweets. Join us! #lrnchat
08:35:02 pm JaneBozarth: troublemaker, NOT a social media “expert” , love learnin’, livin’ la vida loca in central NC.  #lrnchat
08:35:20 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, learning experience design strategist extraordinaire, consultant/author/speaker, genial malcontent, Walnut Creek CA #lrnchat
08:35:25 pm ReubenTozman: Reuben Tozman and I’m very open to alternative views other than those that oppose my own
#lrnchat
08:35:37 pm lrnchat: Rule 5. Periodically RT questions so those outside #lrnchat know what you’re talking about & so they can chime in too.
08:35:57 pm CatMoore: Cathy Moore, foe of boring elearning. Here for the beginning of the chat, then off for Mexican independence celebrations #lrnchat
08:36:01 pm ReubenTozman: @KoreenOlbrish just trying to make friends
#lrnchat
08:36:03 pm LnDDave: Greetings all!  David Kelly from NYC, looking forward to another great #lrnchat
08:36:08 pm LnDDave: RT @CatMoore: It’s #lrnchat time, so prepare for extra tweets. Join us! #lrnchat
08:36:19 pm KoreenOlbrish: Koreen Olbrish, Tandem Learning, lover of research, games, immersion & autumn. Hail to the hoodie! Tweeting from Phillyish. #lrnchat
08:36:23 pm lrnchat: Rule 6. On #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm & irony welcome, though. Seriously, but not too serious.
08:36:39 pm agilistine: Drew Broadhurst, Instructional Design Mgr, Wild Wonderful WV, its showtime! #lrnchat
08:36:58 pm ZaraLynnKing: Zara King Joining Late tonight  #lrnchat
08:37:30 pm AjayPangarkar: #lrnchat Ajay Pangarkar in Montreal,Canada…ready to agree with everything @gwoodill says😉
08:37:31 pm lrnchat: Rule 7. Before we end #lrnchat, reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too.
08:37:47 pm JaneBozarth: @agilistine Oh I love WWWV. Whereabouts are you? Greenbrier/Lewisburg my old stomping grounds. #lrnchat
08:37:59 pm Quinnovator: don’t forget the Official #lrnchat Drinking Game™ http://t.co/VeuihVpN (drinks at the ready!)
08:38:02 pm JaneBozarth: @ZaraLynnKing hi Zara how are you tonight? #lrnchat
08:38:06 pm chris_saeger: I do things to support learning working from washington dc #lrnchat
08:38:18 pm gwoodill: Hi Ajay – didn’t realize you were in Canada. #lrnchat
08:38:27 pm lrnchat: Q0) Time for the #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? What have you learned this week?
08:38:35 pm ReubenTozman: RT @AjayPangarkar: #lrnchat Ajay Pangarkar in Montreal,Canada…ready to agree with everything @gwoodill says ;)-GW is my student #lrnchat
08:38:39 pm AjayPangarkar: #lrnchat – Ajay Pangarkar, employee performance strategist – connecting people with strategy
08:38:52 pm ZaraLynnKing: @JaneBozarth doing great! You? #lrnchat
08:38:54 pm MMTingley: Melissa Tingley, eLearning ID and general edugeek, Boston ready for late  #lrnchat
08:38:59 pm Quinnovator: Q0) learned today that I have completely lost how to shut off tweets from populating FB (which I set up years ago) #lrnchat
08:39:05 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q0) Time for the #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? What have you learned this week?
08:39:08 pm JaneBozarth: Anyone in Chicago? Headed there to do Social Learning Ninja Camp on Oct 2-3.  #lrnchat
08:39:15 pm AjayPangarkar: Hi Gary…of course you did #lrnchat
08:39:41 pm agilistine: @JaneBozarth up in the eastern panhandle #lrnchat
08:39:56 pm ZaraLynnKing: shoot baby woke up brb #lrnchat
08:40:04 pm kelly_smith01: I learned this week  that there are some misconceptions on the definition (working and otherwise) of social learning. #lrnchat
08:40:07 pm Quinnovator: and welcome to all new and returning #lrnchat participants!
08:40:19 pm gwoodill: Q0) Learned today the joy of collaboration. It’s so much nicer than doing things alone.  #lrnchat
08:40:29 pm kelly_smith01: RT @gwoodill: Q0) Learned today the joy of collaboration. It’s so much nicer than doing things alone.  #lrnchat
08:40:40 pm COFA_Online: RT @gwoodill: Q0) Learned today the joy of collaboration. It’s so much nicer than doing things alone.  #lrnchat
08:40:48 pm LnDDave: Q0) learning about the social media automation provided by http://www.ifttt.com, and loving it! #lrnchat (thanks @aaronesilvers)
08:41:00 pm Quinnovator: learned of a) Tin Cup spec at scorm.com, and b) ifttt.com (still figuring out latter use case) #lrnchat
08:41:08 pm ReubenTozman: q0 – I relearned that instructional design isn’t always about organizing content based on learning theory #lrnchat
08:41:09 pm LnDDave: RT @Quinnovator: and welcome to all new and returning #lrnchat participants!
08:41:20 pm JaneBozarth: @kelly_smith01 you got that right. You won’t believe the vendor email I just got. Or should I say, you shouldn’t believe it.  #lrnchat
08:41:33 pm criticallearner: Q0> #lrnchat Today I learned 75 Instr Designers at a Fortune 50 financial believe learning style myths
08:41:48 pm chambo_online: lookie lookie who crawled out from under her temporary, self-imposed SoMe ban for a #lrnchat extravaganza …ME! #lrnchat
08:41:48 pm gwoodill: RT @ReubenTozman: q0 – I relearned that instructional design isnt always about organizing content based on learning theory #lrnchat
08:41:51 pm ReubenTozman: RT @Quinnovator: learned of a) Tin Cup spec at scorm.com, and b) ifttt.com (still figuring out latter use case)-i set up 1st task #lrnchat
08:41:57 pm JRSPipBoy2008: Jack Shipley, Business Analyst, avid gamer, zombiphile, father of one, master of none, and Phillies phan! #lrnchat
08:42:01 pm JaneBozarth: @ZaraLynnKing fine thanks. Rockin’.  #lrnchat
08:42:08 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q0. I learned that even people who preach patience aren’t always patient.
#lrnchat
08:42:08 pm Quinnovator: learned that *certain* folks spam #lrnchat with their stupid event announcements.  Naughty!
08:42:15 pm JaneBozarth: @chambo_online infidel #lrnchat
08:42:17 pm magdaZINE: Q0) Learned to check Voicemails even if the phone doesn’t actually ring. Shaking fist at ATT now #lrnchat
08:42:18 pm gwoodill: RT @criticallearner: Q0> #lrnchat Today I learned 75 Instr Designers at a Fortune 50 financial believe learning style myths #lrnchat
08:42:26 pm criticallearner: RT @quinnovator: learned of a) Tin Cup spec at scorm.com, and b) ifttt.com (still figuring out latter use case) #lrnchat > Tin Cup is rad.
08:42:42 pm JaneBozarth: @KoreenOlbrish Patience is overrated. #lrnchat
08:43:02 pm AjayPangarkar: Q0) #lrnchat – I learned that nepotism is alive and well where I didn’t expect it to be. Learning requires objectivity not favoritism
08:43:04 pm kelly_smith01: @criticallearner Color me not shocked (learning styles – that is) #lrnchat
08:43:10 pm gwoodill: @KoreenOlbrish And people who use social media aren’t always sociable…. #lrnchat
08:43:18 pm ryantracey: Q0) This week I learned Brisbane is a great city. #lrnchat
08:43:20 pm ReubenTozman: RT @JaneBozarth: @KoreenOlbrish Patience is overrated.-i agree #lrnchat
08:43:21 pm criticallearner: @chambo_online YAY! Welcome back #lrnchat
08:43:33 pm Quinnovator: RT @criticallearner: Q0> #lrnchat Today I learned 75 Instr Designers at a Fortune 50 financial believe learning style myths < *drink*
08:43:38 pm agilistine: Q0) Reading “A New Culture of Learning”. Interesting ideas about learning through play and imagination. #lrnchat
08:43:43 pm chambo_online: @JaneBozarth That would be true if I wrote actual pen/paper correspondence…but I banned that too
#lrnchat
08:43:48 pm chris_saeger: RT @kelly_smith01: @criticallearner Color me not shocked (learning styles – that is) <ditto #lrnchat
08:43:49 pm ZaraLynnKing: Back  #lrnchat Today I learned that when all is stressful i get my “D” on
08:43:53 pm Quinnovator: RT @ryantracey: Q0) This week I learned Brisbane is a great city. #lrnchat < give my regards to Oz!
08:43:56 pm LnDDave: RT @JaneBozarth: @chambo_online infidel #lrnchat
08:44:32 pm chambo_online: Q0) This week I learned…”different host, same shite” #lrnchat
08:44:34 pm Quinnovator: reading Learning in the Cloud: review coming soon; great analysis of what’s wrong and could be right with K12 education #lrnchat
08:44:42 pm kelly_smith01: Q0) repeat after me: Social Learning and Social Media are not the same thing – hardly overlap #lrnchat
08:44:55 pm ReubenTozman: q0- i learned a lot about what tax lawyers do and how they need their content structured #lrnchat
08:44:57 pm ZaraLynnKing: RT @kelly_smith01: Q0) repeat after me: Social Learning and Social Media are not the same thing – hardly overlap #lrnchat
08:44:58 pm Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: Q0) repeat after me: Social Learning and Social Media are not the same thing – hardly overlap #lrnchat < hear, hear!
08:45:08 pm KoreenOlbrish: @reubentozman @JaneBozarth that’s what I say! #iwantitnow #lrnchat
08:45:08 pm JRSPipBoy2008: Q0) This week I learned that change is a good thing … taking a step back and looking at the box from the outside is invaluable! #lrnchat
08:45:13 pm gwoodill: Q0) Reading The Innovator’s Manifesto by Michael Raynor. Highly recommend. EVIDENCE of predictive value of disruption theory #lrnchat
08:45:24 pm JaneBozarth: Learned about ifttt and it is WAY cool.  #lrnchat
08:45:25 pm minutebio: RT @kelly_smith01: Q0) repeat after me: Social Learning and Social Media are not the same thing – hardly overlap #lrnchat
08:45:43 pm RamonaMata: Q0) I learned that a full time job is not necessary and a welcome reprieve #lrnchat
08:45:52 pm lrnchat: Q1) How can you prove that you’ve learned something this year? #lrnchat
08:45:59 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can you prove that you’ve learned something this year? #lrnchat
08:46:13 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can you prove that you’ve learned something this year? #lrnchat
08:46:20 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can you prove that youve learned something this year? #lrnchat
08:46:21 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can you prove that you’ve learned something this year? #lrnchat
08:46:28 pm ryantracey: @Quinnovator Will do! #lrnchat
08:46:30 pm RamonaMata: Q1) Proof is in the puddin.  I am TweetChatting right? #lrnchat
08:46:37 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can you prove that you’ve learned something this year? #lrnchat
08:46:40 pm CatMoore: Q1) How can I prove I learned something new? By doing it. #lrnchat
08:46:40 pm Quinnovator: q1) prove I’ve learned something when I do it better/right #lrnchat
08:46:52 pm ReubenTozman: RT @JaneBozarth: Learned about ifttt and it is WAY cool. – its that frickin @aaronsilvers guy got us all ifttt’ing #lrnchat
08:46:56 pm ZaraLynnKing: RT @CatMoore: Q1) How can I prove I learned something new? By doing it. #lrnchat
08:47:05 pm ryantracey: Q1) Believe me, I’ll blog about it. #lrnchat
08:47:07 pm chambo_online: Q1) When Bozarth and Quinnovator RT me and don’t ROTFLMAO at me…I have learned something…😀
#lrnchat
08:47:08 pm JaneBozarth: @minutebio I take screenshots of it and send to my boss.  #lrnchat
08:47:12 pm KoreenOlbrish: Yep. RT @CatMoore: Q1) How can I prove I learned something new? By doing it. #lrnchat
08:47:19 pm minutebio: Q1) By teaching others what u learned #lrnchat
08:47:20 pm gwoodill: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can you prove that youve learned something this year? #lrnchat
08:47:26 pm ZaraLynnKing: RT @chambo_online: Q1) When Bozarth and Quinnovator RT me and don’t ROTFLMAO at me…I have learned something…😀
#lrnchat
08:47:33 pm criticallearner: Q1) #lrnchat proved I learned this year by not doing work like I did last year (new capabilities)
08:47:39 pm ReubenTozman: q1 – i have different opinions and perspectives than i did last year #lrnchat
08:47:54 pm ZaraLynnKing: RT @gwoodill: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can you prove that youve learned something this year? #lrnchat
08:47:57 pm Quinnovator: because the LMS says I accessed the course :p #lrnchat
08:48:00 pm LauraMattis: RT @gwoodill: Q0) Learned today the joy of collaboration. It’s so much nicer than doing things alone.  #lrnchat
08:48:05 pm ZaraLynnKing: RT @Quinnovator: because the LMS says I accessed the course :p #lrnchat
08:48:15 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Prove I learned something when I receive feedback and do things much better & creatively, (Happened today) #lrnchat
08:48:15 pm RamonaMata: @minutebio always great to teach others.  Great one #lrnchat
08:48:27 pm gwoodill: Q1) I can prove I learned this year by doing things differently. And, I am… #lrnchat
08:48:29 pm Quinnovator: because I got a certificate at the end! :p #lrnchat
08:48:38 pm chambo_online: RT @ReubenTozman: q1 – i have different opinions and perspectives than i did last year –>perspective shift, aye #lrnchat
08:48:41 pm JaneBozarth: @chambo_online sweetie we’re not ROTFLMAO at you. We are ROTFLMAO NEAR you.  #lrnchat
08:48:42 pm ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat@Quinnovator but our LMS isn’t up and running yet. now what do I do? #lrnchat
08:48:46 pm agilistine: Q1) When I’m teaching someone else how to do something #lrnchat
08:48:49 pm criticallearner: RT @quinnovator: because the LMS says I accessed the course :p #lrnchat > Glug Glug.
08:48:50 pm minutebio: RT @Quinnovator: because the LMS says I accessed the course :p | & reached a score of 80% or higher😉 #lrnchat
08:48:53 pm CatMoore: @Quinnovator Or because I got 100% on the assessment using just my lizard brain and some random twitching #lrnchat
08:49:11 pm ReubenTozman: q1 – my back hurts way more this year than it did last year — but u should see me with a skillsaw #lrnchat
08:49:15 pm RamonaMata: Just because you complete it and it shows in the LMS doesn’t mean you learned it #lrnchat
08:49:18 pm Mary_a_Myers: q1) i can show you what i have learned…it might not be that interesting …but i can demonstrate it… #lrnchat
08:49:25 pm audioswhite: Made it – a little late. Q1) I haven’t touched a hot burner on the electric stove since Christmas🙂 #lrnchat
08:49:25 pm JaneBozarth: RT @quinnovator: because the LMS says I accessed the course :p #lrnchat
08:49:26 pm Quinnovator: @CatMoore or because I gamed the system, or retook it and recorded the answers, or anything but *learning* #lrnchat
08:49:39 pm JaneBozarth: RT @CatMoore Or because I got 100% on the assessment using just my lizard brain and some random twitching #lrnchat
08:49:42 pm ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat I am more popular at work and people won’t leave me alone…lol
08:49:55 pm elearnaustralia: #lrnchat  I can therefore I do.
08:49:56 pm Quinnovator: RT @ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat I am more popular at work and people won’t leave me alone…lol : )
08:49:56 pm JaneBozarth: @RamonaMata but I have a certificate. #lrnchat
08:50:11 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Got smiley faces on my course review form – got upside down smiley face on  room temperature  though :-(   #lrnchat
08:50:17 pm audioswhite: RT @Quinnovator: because I got a certificate at the end! :p #lrnchat
08:50:29 pm RamonaMata: @JaneBozarth @RamonaMata oooh ahhh ha ha🙂
#lrnchat
08:50:42 pm kelly_smith01: RT @ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat I am more popular at work and people won’t leave me alone…lol : )
08:50:53 pm chambo_online: You mean the “A” doesn’t prove it? Hahahahahahaha #lrnchat
08:51:22 pm ReubenTozman: q1 – i am able to point out other people’s faults, ignorance and general stupidity with impunity #lrnchat
08:51:26 pm ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat or “oh Zara can you do this little thing and this one too and this one too…etc”
08:51:27 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q1. Isn’t the proof in performance? Not sure anything else really matters. *including assessments*🙂 #lrnchat
08:51:28 pm criticallearner: Q1) #lrnchat because the Sharepoint portal is running, my blog is redone and comes in a mobile flavor, etc…
08:51:29 pm LnDDave: Q1) By showing someone else how to use the skills I’ve learned. #lrnchat
08:51:30 pm Alan_Wolf: Sheepishly raises hand RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q0. I learned that even people who preach patience aren’t always patient.
#lrnchat
08:51:47 pm ZaraLynnKing: RT @Alan_Wolf: Sheepishly raises hand RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q0. I learned that even people who preach patience aren’t always patient.
#lrnchat
08:51:54 pm minutebio: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q1. Isnt the proof in performance? Not sure anything else really matters. *including assessments*🙂 #lrnchat
08:51:58 pm Mary_a_Myers: q1) i like getting smiley faces…just like i like it when people remember my birthday. #lrnchat
08:51:58 pm magdaZINE: Question for all my non- #lrnchat followers: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can you prove that you’ve learned something this year?
08:52:02 pm Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q1) By showing someone else how to use the skills I’ve learned. #lrnchat
08:52:09 pm JaneBozarth: @reubentozman yeah I hate how @aaronsilvers is such a good influence #lrnchat
08:52:15 pm Quinnovator: because now they always make *me* do it #lrnchat
08:52:16 pm ReubenTozman: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q1. Isnt the proof in performance? Not sure anything else really matters. *including assessments* :)  i disagree #lrnchat
08:52:24 pm criticallearner: Q1) #lrnchat because we’ve redesigned all our Level 1 Smile Sheets- enjoy your copy! http://t.co/zT6FeJT5
08:52:46 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q1. Isnt the proof in performance? Not sure anything else really matters. *including assessments*🙂 #lrnchat
08:52:47 pm ZaraLynnKing: RT @criticallearner: Q1) #lrnchat because we’ve redesigned all our Level 1 Smile Sheets- enjoy your copy! http://t.co/zT6FeJT5
08:52:57 pm chambo_online: @Mary_a_Myers🙂🙂 :>)🙂 =-)😉 #lrnchat
08:53:03 pm criticallearner: RT @koreenolbrish: Q1. Isn’t the proof in performance? Not sure anything else really matters. *including assessments*🙂 #lrnchat YEP!
08:53:10 pm LnDDave: I see many of us took our sarcasm pills this morning…😉. #lrnchat
08:53:10 pm RamonaMata: Q1) I agree w/ performance; and by being able to teach someone else; or leading by example #lrnchat
08:53:15 pm KoreenOlbrish: @ReubenTozman you’re a curmudgeon. #lrnchat
08:53:24 pm criticallearner: RT @reubentozman: q1 – i am able to point out other people’s faults, ignorance and general stupidity with impunity #lrnchat Sweet!
08:53:36 pm MMTingley: RT @LnDDave: I see many of us took our sarcasm pills this morning…😉. #lrnchat
08:53:37 pm ReubenTozman: @KoreenOlbrish which performance – someone may have learned but isn’t performing the way you would expect #lrnchat
08:53:39 pm Mary_a_Myers: @chambo_online aww..thanks! just what i needed.🙂 #lrnchat
08:53:49 pm ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat i trust my learners but cooperate doesn’t.  So sad that you need and 80 for proof
08:53:49 pm minutebio: Q1) I know I have learned b/c I now have more questions #lrnchat
08:54:00 pm Quinnovator: @LnDDave no, I just passed the sarcasm class, have a certificate and everything #lrnchat
08:54:09 pm kelly_smith01: RT @minutebio: Q1) I know I have learned b/c I now have more questions #lrnchat
08:54:20 pm RamonaMata: @MMTingley @LnDDave I know right???? #lrnchat
08:54:24 pm LnDDave: Q1) Blog about it.  Write about what you learn and how you can apply it in your environment. #lrnchat
08:54:27 pm gwoodill: Einstein gave the same test two years in a row. When students objected, he answered, “this year the answers are different.”  #lrnchat
08:54:39 pm LnDDave: RT @Quinnovator: because now they always make *me* do it #lrnchat
08:54:46 pm elearnaustralia: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @minutebio: Q1) I know I have learned b/c I now have more questions #lrnchat
08:54:46 pm Mary_a_Myers: q1) someone else recognized my performance. (lucky me) #lrnchat
08:55:03 pm Quinnovator: don’t assume that it’s now set, it can mutate and evaporate, keep it active (channeling @LnDDave ) #lrnchat
08:55:13 pm sparkandco: RT @gwoodill: Einstein gave the same test two years in a row. When students objected, he answered, “this year the answers are different.”  #lrnchat
08:55:13 pm ReubenTozman: q1 – it is a myth that there is a 1 to 1 relationship between what u design and how people perform. #lrnchat
08:55:28 pm minutebio: RT @gwoodill: Einstein gave same test 2 years in row. When students objected, he answered, “this year the answers are different.”  #lrnchat
08:55:47 pm ZaraLynnKing: @gwoodill ooooo very philosophical  you know i had wine with dine that might be hard to think about but i like it.  #lrnchat
08:55:47 pm MMTingley: Q1)Oh I don’t know, Didn’t 6Sigma teach it was nothing if it couldn’t be measured? #lrnchat
08:55:51 pm criticallearner: RT @reubentozman: q1 – it is a myth that there is a 1 to 1 relationship between what u design and how people perform. #lrnchat >100% true
08:55:54 pm magdaZINE: Q1) Because I am no longer stressed about whatever I didn’t know before #lrnchat
08:56:12 pm LnDDave: I have a folder full of certificates that prove I was a participant… And that’s all it proves. #lrnchat
08:56:14 pm ZaraLynnKing: RT @gwoodill: Einstein gave the same test two years in a row. When students objected, he answered, “this year the answers are different.”  #lrnchat
08:56:14 pm Quinnovator: RT @magdaZINE: Q1) Because I am no longer stressed about whatever I didn’t know before #lrnchat😉
08:56:16 pm elearnaustralia: RT @minutebio: RT @gwoodill: Einstein gave same test 2 years in row. When students objected, he answered, “this year the answers are different.”  #lrnchat
08:56:51 pm RamonaMata: @MMTingley So if we can’t measure it, we didnt learn it or it wasnt worth learning? #lrnchat
08:57:01 pm elearnaustralia: #lrnchat What you cannot measure you cannot control
08:57:15 pm minutebio: RT @magdaZINE: Q1) Because I am no longer stressed about whatever I didnt know before | Now we can find new stressors🙂 #lrnchat
08:57:21 pm gwoodill: I also like Picasso’s comment: “Computers are useless, they only give you answers.” #lrnchat
08:57:27 pm MMTingley: Q1) I know I’ve learned something if I changed what I am doing based on new knowledge – hard to do, though. #lrnchat
08:57:41 pm ZaraLynnKing: @jeanettebrooks has a great idea… after every project get a book/diary and write all the love hate and learning for the project. #lrnchat
08:57:51 pm minutebio: RT @elearnaustralia: #lrnchat What you cannot measure you cannot control #lrnchat
08:57:52 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @gwoodill: I also like Picassos comment: “Computers are useless, they only give you answers.” #lrnchat
08:58:00 pm Quinnovator: RT @elearnaustralia: #lrnchat What you cannot measure you cannot control < not sure ‘control’ is really the right model for learning?
08:58:02 pm LnDDave: Q1) How do I know I learned? Because the LMS report says so!  #lrnchat
08:58:21 pm elearnaustralia: #lrnchat  But do we want to control everything we learn?
08:58:21 pm ReubenTozman: RT @RamonaMata: @MMTingley So if we cant measure it, we didnt learn it or it wasnt worth learning? – exactly!  #lrnchat
08:58:25 pm lrnchat: Q2) Is there physical evidence of what you’ve learned this year? What is it? #lrnchat
08:58:42 pm MMTingley: @RamonaMata Not sure I believe either of those things, but that’s what we are trained to think. #lrnchat
08:58:49 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is there physical evidence of what you’ve learned this year? What is it? #lrnchat
08:58:49 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is there physical evidence of what youve learned this year? What is it? #lrnchat
08:58:52 pm JaneBozarth: @elearnaustralia Hate to think the point is “control”  #lrnchat
08:59:08 pm Quinnovator: Q2) the certificate, of course! :p #lrnchat
08:59:09 pm chambo_online: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is there physical evidence of what youve learned this year? What is it? #lrnchat
08:59:11 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is there physical evidence of what you’ve learned this year? What is it? #lrnchat
08:59:12 pm magdaZINE: Q2) Bigger paycheck #lrnchat
08:59:15 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is there physical evidence of what youve learned this year? What is it? #lrnchat
08:59:25 pm audioswhite: ooh – good one “@lrnchat: Q2) Is there physical evidence of what you’ve learned this year? What is it? #lrnchat”
08:59:28 pm minutebio: Q2) eLearning Courses with better design  #lrnchat
08:59:38 pm ryantracey: Hmm… excellent question – RT @RamonaMata So if we cant measure it, we didnt learn it or it wasnt worth learning? #lrnchat
08:59:40 pm cammybean: Q1) I know I have learned because I’m now worrying about/trying to figure out new things, having moved on from the old… #lrnchat
08:59:52 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is there physical evidence of what you’ve learned this year? What is it? #lrnchat
08:59:54 pm Mary_a_Myers: q2) physical evidence: children; knitted socks; garden with live vegetables; happy clients…. #lrnchat
09:00:02 pm ReubenTozman: RT @MMTingley@RamonaMata Not sure I believe either of those things, but thats what we r trained to think-time 2 change how we think #lrnchat
09:00:07 pm minutebio: RT @minutebio: Q2) eLearning Courses with better design | Correction – if printed then physical, I guess #lrnchat
09:00:07 pm Quinnovator: q2) work product, associated records of underlying thinking, portfolios of performance #lrnchat
09:00:11 pm MMTingley: @RamonaMata Besides, I was an English major, none of that goes in neat little boxes or bubbles.
#lrnchat
09:00:21 pm Spongelab: Dead Satellite Will Fall to Earth By September’s End, NASA Says http://ow.ly/6tsNz #edtech #edchat #lrnchat #scichat
09:00:29 pm criticallearner: Q2) #lrnchat people still have a job to go to because they are still producing value- that’s physical evidence😉
09:00:35 pm ZaraLynnKing: @jeanettebrooks has a great idea…  after every project get a book/diary and write all the love hate and learning for the project. #lrnchat
09:00:53 pm ReubenTozman: q2 – i have a product that sums up my learning #lrnchat
09:01:00 pm criticallearner: RT @quinnovator: q2) work product, associated records of underlying thinking, portfolios of performance #lrnchat
09:01:03 pm gwoodill: Q1) People assume to measure is to use numbers. In stats there are 4 levels of data. First is nominal – naming. Tell stories. #lrnchat
09:01:09 pm ddigerati: what wemeasure doesn’t determine learning.the greatest learning achievement is realized well after the student leaves the classroom #lrnchat
09:01:14 pm ReubenTozman: RT @criticallearnerQ2) #lrnchat people still have a job to go to because they are still producing value- thats physical evidence😉 #lrnchat
09:01:17 pm RamonaMata: Q2) Evidence is in my ability to tweet, retweet, tweetchat
#lrnchat
09:01:21 pm JoanVinallCox: Sorry for the late arrival, from Oakville in Canada #lrnchat
09:01:32 pm ryantracey: RT @Quinnovator: q2) work product, associated records of underlying thinking, portfolios of performance #lrnchat
09:01:40 pm JimLundy: @criticallearner yes, how about better performance and update to certified profile. #lrnchat
09:01:45 pm LnDDave: Q2) physical evidence is suspect; certificates prove Attendance, not learning or application. #lrnchat
09:01:48 pm Quinnovator: Q2) the <project I was working on> is now completely buggered :p #lrnchat
09:01:49 pm JaneBozarth: @ddigerati most learning involves neither students nor classrooms #lrnchat
09:02:00 pm criticallearner: Q2) #lrnchat observe how folks perform work (better)- simple to see evidence, and results/outcomes these behaviors drive.
09:02:02 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is there physical evidence of what youve learned this year? What is it? #lrnchat
09:02:03 pm ZaraLynnKing: RT @JaneBozarth: @ddigerati most learning involves neither students nor classrooms #lrnchat
09:02:12 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @JaneBozarth: @ddigerati most learning involves neither students nor classrooms #lrnchat
09:02:22 pm chambo_online: Q2) Physical evidence? Broader network of ppl I learn from=better thinking=better design=better products #lrnchat
09:02:22 pm blair_ed: Depends if it was internal or external RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can you prove that you’ve learned something this year? #lrnchat
09:02:31 pm minutebio: RT @criticallearner:   observe how folks perform work (better)- simple to see evidence, and results/outcomes these behaviors drive. #lrnchat
09:02:32 pm agilistine: Q2) Learning Analytics – the proof is in the data, you just have to know how and where to look #lrnchat
09:02:32 pm kelly_smith01: RT @minutebio: RT @minutebio: Q2) eLearning Courses with better design | Correction – if printed then physical, I guess #lrnchat
09:02:32 pm Quinnovator: I won the (learning|serious) game!  #lrnchat
09:02:42 pm MMTingley: RT @gwoodill: Q1) Ppl assume 2 measure is 2 use numbers. In stats there r 4 levels of data. 1st is nominal – naming. Tell stories. #lrnchat
09:02:44 pm cammybean: Q2) Physical evidence…? It’s all metaphysical, man. #lrnchat
09:02:50 pm ReubenTozman: q2 – i saw somebody collect my learning in a small grocery bad and throw it out #lrnchat
09:03:03 pm ryantracey: Q2) A pay check (cashing in on @criticallearner’s answer – with a pun to boot!) #lrnchat
09:03:08 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @cammybean: Q2) Physical evidence…? Its all metaphysical, man. #lrnchat
09:03:17 pm blair_ed: But I’d say it is heavily dependent on self reflection and having someone you trust hold you accountable #lrnchat Q1
09:03:20 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @cammybean: Q2) Physical evidence…? Its all metaphysical, man. #lrnchat
09:03:24 pm kelly_smith01: Butting abstract concepts into improved performance. #lrnchat
09:03:33 pm JaneBozarth: Q2 I can pass a multiple choice test! Oh, wait… #lrnchat
09:03:36 pm RamonaMata: Learning is at its best when you are applying the concepts taught
#lrnchat
09:03:41 pm ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat when can we get access to army brain chip to program decision makers to understand that 1981 never happened and it is ok to let go
09:03:44 pm ReubenTozman: RT @cammybean: Q2) Physical evidence…? Its all metaphysical, man. – i disagree – please refer to my disagreement with everything #lrnchat
09:03:52 pm criticallearner: RT @agilistine: Q2) Learning Analytics – the proof is in the data, you just have to know how and where to look #lrnchat > not “burgers srvd”
09:03:59 pm gwoodill: @ReubenTozman Hey, Reuben. I picked up the bag. Got your learning right here.. #lrnchat
09:03:59 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @blair_ed: But Id say it is heavily dependent on self reflection and having someone you trust hold you accountable #lrnchat Q1 #lrnchat
09:04:11 pm kelly_smith01: RT @cammybean: Q2) Physical evidence…? It’s all metaphysical, man. #lrnchat
09:04:15 pm Quinnovator: RT @Quinnovator: I won the (learning|serious) game!  #lrnchat < meaning the physical evidence of my learning is the fact that I could win
09:04:27 pm agilistine: Q2) Physical evidence = if your learning was on trial, would there be enough evidence to convict? #lrnchat
09:04:35 pm cammybean: @ReubenTozman Ooh.  He’s metadisagreeing.
#lrnchat
09:04:37 pm minutebio: RT @cammybean: ..Its all metaphysical.. | I was caught cheating on metaphysics exam.. I looked at another students soul (W. Allen) #lrnchat
09:04:44 pm LnDDave: Q2) My new electric sockets, which I installed after watching a series of How-To YouTube videos #lrnchat
09:04:44 pm JoanVinallCox: q2) I know I’ve learned something because I’m behaving differently #lrnchat
09:04:45 pm rvertiz: “Listening” to #lrnchat
09:04:57 pm RamonaMata: @agilistine like that, good question #lrnchat
09:04:58 pm ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat how about you don’t get credit for training until you prove that you learned something personal development & training in 1
09:04:59 pm LnDDave: RT @cammybean: Q2) Physical evidence…? It’s all metaphysical, man. #lrnchat
09:05:03 pm Quinnovator: @rvertiz um, that’s not how you do it…😉 #lrnchat
09:05:07 pm minutebio: RT @JoanVinallCox: q2) I know Ive learned something because Im behaving differently #lrnchat
09:05:09 pm ReubenTozman: @gwoodill you gonna light it on fire and leave it 4 your neighbors to learn? #lrnchat
09:05:22 pm blair_ed: Yes, me! RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is there physical evidence of what you’ve learned this year? What is it? #lrnchat
09:05:52 pm JaneBozarth: @rvertiz   noooooo participate please #lrnchat
09:05:53 pm elearnaustralia: #lrnchat @JaneBozarth Standard testing of all primary students?For measurement?For control?Of students?Teachers?Budgets? Worthwhile? Or Not?
09:06:05 pm chambo_online: @LnDDave You had to watch Youtube for that? *nerd* #lrnchat
09:06:11 pm gwoodill: RT @ReubenTozman: @gwoodill you gonna light it on fire and leave it 4 your neighbors to learn? < Nah, gave it to the dog. #lrnchat
09:06:23 pm ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat see this question is why Sr management needs to be accepting of social media and learning
09:06:25 pm JoanVinallCox: q2) I talked to a colleague in the summer and I’m trying out one of her ideas  #lrnchat
09:06:32 pm CatMoore: It has been fun to drop in but now I have to go yell vivaaaa Mexicoooo! Viva!  #lrnchat
09:06:36 pm blair_ed: Again it’s dependent if it’s external or internal. If I am practicing active listening then the proof is in my relationships #lrnchat
09:06:44 pm LnDDave: RT @chambo_online: @LnDDave You had to watch Youtube for that? *nerd* #lrnchat < (Puffs out his chest) Damn right Imma nerd.
09:06:54 pm criticallearner: RT @elearnaustralia: #lrnchat @JaneBozarth Standard testing of all primary students?For measurement?For control?… >how ’bout “to support”
09:07:00 pm JaneBozarth: @elearnaustralia I’m not interested in school or students. I’m talking about learning.
#lrnchat
09:07:04 pm minutebio: Q2) Physical evidence – Certificates, some with my name spelled correctly #lrnchat
09:07:23 pm rvertiz: @Quinnovator I know, I am just jumping in after been away for a long time….Learning by observing🙂 #lrnchat
09:07:23 pm tedcurran: RT @gwoodill I also like Picasso’s comment: “Computers are useless, they only give you answers.” #lrnchat
09:07:26 pm Quinnovator: LIke what Warschauer said, all assessment should be performance based, and formative #lrnchat
09:07:42 pm ReubenTozman: @gwoodill gross #lrnchat
09:07:50 pm criticallearner: Q2) #lrnchat Physical evidence of learning- I can ballroom dance with my lady without stomping her toes.
09:08:04 pm ReubenTozman: RT @JaneBozarth: @elearnaustralia Im not interested in school or students. Im talking about learning.  #lrnchat
09:08:05 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @Quinnovator: LIke what Warschauer said, all assessment should be performance based, and formative #lrnchat
09:08:13 pm Quinnovator: @CatMoore well, if you’re gonna yell, yes we’ll have to ask you to leave (nice to ‘see’ you) #lrnchat
09:08:17 pm kelly_smith01: I did not keep any certificate I received – can’t help it I’m a rebel #lrnchat
09:08:18 pm blair_ed: This week I’ve learned that I need to listen more. Not interrupt. What people are saying is just as important as what I want to say #lrnchat
09:08:21 pm RamonaMata: @Quinnovator I like that too; objective, training, standards and expectations, performance, measurement #lrnchat
09:08:25 pm ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat think about it: trainers/ID’s are worst students. we resit training. we don’t buy into it? or we know structure not enough?
09:08:28 pm criticallearner: RT @quinnovator: LIke what Warschauer said, all assessment should be performance based, and formative #lrnchat > 4 understanding, then suppt
09:08:38 pm minutebio: RT @criticallearner: Q2) Physical evidence of learning- I can ballroom dance with my lady without stomping her toes. | Level 3!! #lrnchat
09:09:07 pm JRSPipBoy2008: Q1) I’ve always learned by doing, and through doing I show I’ve learned #lrnchat
09:09:14 pm chambo_online: @criticallearner Your lady is most appreciative, I’m sure! #lrnchat
09:09:32 pm audioswhite: Q2) mostly product listed in previous tweet w/o  hashtag #lrnchat (I’ve learned, just don’t always “perform”) :p
09:09:50 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @JRSPipBoy2008: Q1) Ive always learned by doing, and through doing I show Ive learned #lrnchat
09:09:56 pm JimLundy: I like teach and try (simulate) vs teach and test…#lrnchat
09:10:03 pm JaneBozarth: @kelly_smith01 me neither. When people ask for certificates I tell them to create & print them themselves and make ’em real pretty. #lrnchat
09:10:14 pm Quinnovator: @RamonaMata and triangulation, and competency based, and success-focused, and challenging, and unsolvable and meta-cog, and… #lrnchat
09:10:20 pm MMTingley: Q2) Performance measurement puts the onus on the Mgr rather than the module #lrnchat
09:10:36 pm kelly_smith01: I saw a bobcat this afternoon – did not go to pet or toss a ball of yarn at it – evidence = I was not scratched or bitten. #lrnchat
09:10:37 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q2. Physical evidence of learning: the games that I’ve built, the blog posts/articles I’ve written.  #lrnchat
09:10:41 pm JRSPipBoy2008: Q2) There’s no paper, no diploma, no certificates of completion.  Just the self satisfaction of knowing I’ve acomplished #lrnchat
09:10:47 pm kelly_smith01: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q2. Physical evidence of learning: the games that I’ve built, the blog posts/articles I’ve written.  #lrnchat
09:10:54 pm ZaraLynnKing: RT @kelly_smith01: I saw a bobcat this afternoon – did not go to pet or toss a ball of yarn at it – evidence = I was not scratched or bitten. #lrnchat
09:11:09 pm RamonaMata: @JimLundy Me too; teach and try is much more beneficial.  Difficult to do online but incorporating a lot of exercises & observing #lrnchat
09:11:15 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q2. Physical evidence of learning: the games that Ive built, the blog posts/articles Ive written.  #lrnchat
09:11:16 pm chambo_online: @JaneBozarth @kelly_smith01  – don’t forget the fancy border , it looks more authentic that way. #lrnchat
09:11:16 pm ReubenTozman: q2 – i integrated AR into a blog post. made @koreenolbrish very happy #lrnchat
09:11:18 pm lrnchat: Q3) What evidence is there that someone has learned something from you this year? #lrnchat
09:11:23 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What evidence is there that someone has learned something from you this year? #lrnchat
09:11:50 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What evidence is there that someone has learned something from you this year? #lrnchat
09:11:54 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What evidence is there that someone has learned something from you this year? #lrnchat
09:11:54 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What evidence is there that someone has learned something from you this year? #lrnchat
09:11:59 pm ZaraLynnKing: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What evidence is there that someone has learned something from you this year? #lrnchat
09:12:05 pm gwoodill: Q2) Physical evidence is whatever comes through our instrumentation or directly to our senses and is successfully processed.  #lrnchat
09:12:12 pm JaneBozarth: Q3) What evidence is there that someone has learned something from you this year?
#lrnchat
09:12:19 pm ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat my daughter “reads” books on her own
09:12:25 pm chambo_online: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What evidence is there that someone has learned something from you this year? #lrnchat
09:12:27 pm RamonaMata: Q3) He/she continues to ask me for guidance #lrnchat
09:12:48 pm blair_ed: #lrnchat the organic way my team works has shown that my team has learned from me at work. They actually enjoy a meeting
09:12:49 pm minutebio: Q3) They send me more training requests #lrnchat
09:12:52 pm ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat people email me direct to ask questions and i don’t know them
09:13:03 pm ZaraLynnKing: RT @minutebio: Q3) They send me more training requests #lrnchat
09:13:05 pm Quinnovator: Q3) they ask  questions that extend the concepts #lrnchat
09:13:07 pm criticallearner: RT @ramonamata: Q3) He/she continues to ask me for guidance #lrnchat > Or, I come to him/her for new perspectives/guidance.
09:13:10 pm RamonaMata: Q3) My students ask and sign up for other courses I teach. #lrnchat
09:13:13 pm KoreenOlbrish: *swoon* RT @reubentozman: q2 – i integrated AR into a blog post. made @koreenolbrish very happy #lrnchat
09:13:26 pm JoanVinallCox: q3) They created interesting podcasts, something they’d never done before #lrnchat
09:13:51 pm ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat i stumped the expert and taught him something new.
09:13:51 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) Received a Tweet from someone I helped land a job in e-learning – I had suggested bolstering SoMe image & PLN  #lrnchat
09:13:55 pm ReubenTozman: q3 – @janebozarth said she read my chapter in Allen’s book. Believe me…she learned something – I’m not sure what #lrnchat
09:13:57 pm JaneBozarth: They invite me to join in on or send descriptions of how they are supporting social learning in their organizations.  #lrnchat
09:14:03 pm odguru: RT @gwoodill: Einstein gave the same test two years in a row. When students objected, he answered, “this year the answers are different.”  #lrnchat
09:14:27 pm JaneBozarth: @ReubenTozman heh #lrnchat
09:14:30 pm ddigerati: Q3: See one, teach one, do one. I taught the trainers, the trainers taught the masses. successful integration of a new job skill #lrnchat
09:14:42 pm JaneBozarth: @JoanVinallCox very good– #lrnchat
09:14:49 pm gwoodill: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What evidence is there that someone has learned something from you this year? #lrnchat
09:15:11 pm LnDDave: Q3) When my phone rings with a clarification question when they are applying skills on the job. #lrnchat
09:15:11 pm ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat people comment on my contributions
09:15:13 pm agilistine: Q3) They repeated something I said to the teacher and I spent the afternoon in detention #flashback #lrnchat
09:15:13 pm Quinnovator: Q3) I start learning from them #lrnchat
09:15:21 pm ZaraLynnKing: RT @Quinnovator: Q3) I start learning from them #lrnchat
09:15:26 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q3. My kids all got their green bands at the pool.  #lrnchat
09:15:28 pm JoanVinallCox: @JaneBozarth @JoanVinallCox Can I make myself a certificate now?
#lrnchat
09:15:38 pm ReubenTozman: q3 – My wife ignores me more this year than last – she hates when I’m right #lrnchat
09:15:38 pm LnDDave: RT @Quinnovator: Q3) I start learning from them #lrnchat
09:15:39 pm mgdoepel: Passing a test doesn’t count, I suppose. RT @JaneBozarth: Q3) Wht evdnc is thre tht someone learned something from you this year?
#lrnchat
09:15:43 pm odguru: RT @Quinnovator: LIke what Warschauer said, all assessment should be performance based, and formative #lrnchat
09:15:48 pm ryantracey: Q3) They took a step closer to doing me out of a job. #lrnchat
09:15:49 pm ZaraLynnKing: RT @ReubenTozman: q3 – My wife ignores me more this year than last – she hates when I’m right #lrnchat
09:15:52 pm blair_ed: And shares successes RT @RamonaMata: Q3) He/she continues to ask me for guidance #lrnchat
09:15:57 pm LnDDave: RT @ryantracey: Q3) They took a step closer to doing me out of a job. #lrnchat
09:16:02 pm audioswhite: Q3) almost complete stop to support calls after launching in-app perf support vids. And it wasn’t cuz I changed the number😉 #lrnchat
09:16:09 pm criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat the workers performed differently and produced better outcomes
09:16:11 pm ZaraLynnKing: @ryantracey must be a great feeling #lrnchat
09:16:16 pm rvertiz: Q3) Helped develop a training program at work using social networks, skype, and web 2.0 tools #lrnchat #lrnchat
09:16:19 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @Quinnovator: Q3) I start learning from them – True!!! #lrnchat
09:16:29 pm minutebio: RT @LnDDave: RT @ryantracey: Q3) They took a step closer to doing me out of a job. #lrnchat
09:16:38 pm ingridstabb: RT @dave_mortell Saba Announces Content Connect Program [press release] http://t.co/SLbVq2s7 #lrnchat #training
09:16:39 pm ReubenTozman: RT @criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat the workers performed differently and produced better outcomes #lrnchat
09:16:41 pm gwoodill: Q3) I let grandchildren disappear my movie camera. Interesting results.  #lrnchat
09:16:45 pm ryantracey: @ZaraLynnKing Indeed it is! #lrnchat
09:17:16 pm ZaraLynnKing: @ryantracey  #lrnchat but thanks god it all has to be revamp and we have jobs again…lol
09:17:31 pm agilistine: @rvertiz sounds like a very cool training program #lrnchat
09:17:48 pm minutebio: Q3) They are less intimidated by change… or at least the current software upgrade. #lrnchat
09:17:57 pm RamonaMata: @ZaraLynnKing @ryantracey lucky you; lost mine to a lay off #lrnchat
09:18:09 pm ReubenTozman: RT @ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat people comment on my contributions #lrnchat
09:18:18 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: @ddigerati most learning involves neither students nor classrooms #lrnchat
09:18:29 pm JimLundy: RT @RamonaMata: @JimLundy Me too; teach and try is much more beneficial.  Difficult to do online but incorporating a lot of exercises & observing #lrnchat
09:18:44 pm JaneBozarth: @mgdoepel Depends on what you mean by ‘test’.  not if it’s just T/F.  #lrnchat
09:19:06 pm ryantracey: @RamonaMata @ZaraLynnKing It bites when it’s not you driving the change. #lrnchat
09:19:08 pm MMTingley: RT @Quinnovator: Q3) I start learning from them #lrnchat
09:19:21 pm ReubenTozman: q3 – They invented the interweb #lrnchat
09:19:29 pm ZaraLynnKing: RamonaMata been there too unfortunately but it was really the best thing that happened cause i went from trainer to ID. LOVE IT  #lrnchat
09:19:38 pm rvertiz: @agilistine @rvertiz its pretty awesome, we train writers accross the world to write for the web using our platform #lrnchat
09:19:47 pm blair_ed: Q2) #lrnchat when I realize I’m doing something the typical way and not the new learned way. Shows I know better
09:20:14 pm criticallearner: Q3) #lrnchat they’ve grown to a point where I don’t have to double-check the outputs- I know stds are being exceeded (they’re there)
09:20:18 pm RamonaMata: @ZaraLynnKing Yes, I concur.  I am able to do a lot more online teaching and work from home ahhhhh #lrnchat
09:20:32 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) I’m learning informally in 140 character bits #lrnchat
09:20:34 pm rvertiz: @minutebio good point, in this time and age, change is part of the process #lrnchat
09:21:12 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @kelly_smith01: Q3) Im learning informally in 140 character bits #lrnchat
09:21:55 pm blair_ed: RT @MMTingley: RT @Quinnovator: Q3) I start learning from them #lrnchat
09:22:03 pm rvertiz: @kelly_smith01 absolutely, people forget to take advantage of twitter as a learning tool #lrnchat
09:22:09 pm ZaraLynnKing: @RamonaMata @ZaraLynnKing #lrnchat I am a bit of a control freak so it is hard to let go but i do other things like Global Give Back
09:22:30 pm Quinnovator: q3) some of the biz metrics get better #lrnchat
09:22:31 pm ZaraLynnKing: @ryantracey #lrnchat I am a bit of a control freak so it is hard to let go but i do other things like Global Give Back
09:22:32 pm JRSPipBoy2008: Q3) My friend engaged me to help him work on his L-IN profile.  In fact my own profile is evidence… can I change my answer to Q2? #lrnchat
09:22:50 pm chambo_online: Q3) They take my objectives and run with them to new places I hadn’t thought of (run, fly, be free) #lrnchat
09:23:16 pm LnDDave: RT @Quinnovator: q3) some of the biz metrics get better #lrnchat < Hopefully shifting from ‘quantity’ metrics to ‘quality’ metrics
09:23:17 pm criticallearner: RT @chambo_online: Q3) They take my objectives and run with them to new places I hadn’t thought of (run, fly, be free) #lrnchat > YES!
09:23:38 pm Quinnovator: there are lively discussions about the topic in org social media #lrnchat
09:23:43 pm ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat proof i taught someone …my hubby just brought me popcorn without being told
09:23:47 pm ReubenTozman: RT @chambo_online: Q3) They take my objectives and run with them to new places I hadnt thought of (run, fly, be free) #lrnchat
09:23:57 pm Quinnovator: @LnDDave whatever biz change we’re trying to move the needle on #lrnchat
09:24:13 pm ReubenTozman: RT @ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat proof i taught someone …my hubby just brought me popcorn without being told – lol #lrnchat
09:24:14 pm RamonaMata: @ZaraLynnKing trained him well🙂 #lrnchat
09:24:19 pm lrnchat: Q4) Is some evidence more important than other evidence that learning has happened? If so, what? #lrnchat
09:24:25 pm agilistine: Q3) When they take the next step #lrnchat
09:24:31 pm JoanVinallCox: LOL – RT @ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat proof i taught someone …my hubby just brought me popcorn without being told #lrnchat
09:24:37 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q4) Is some evidence more important than other evidence that learning has happened? If so, what? #lrnchat
09:24:38 pm JRSPipBoy2008: Q2) Actually, I learned a lot about building a strong networking profile on Linked IN which I think looks pretty darn good! #lrnchat
09:24:38 pm ZaraLynnKing: RT @agilistine: Q3) When they take the next step #lrnchat
09:24:45 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q4) Is some evidence more important than other evidence that learning has happened? If so, what? #lrnchat
09:24:51 pm criticallearner: Q3) #lrnchat Had to deliver the cheezy line “Now the student has become the master” (with joy)
09:24:57 pm LnDDave: @Quinnovator Often, it’s us who need to educate stakeholders on what those metrics can – and should – be. #lrnchat
09:25:02 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @lrnchat: Q4) Is some evidence more important than other evidence that learning has happened? If so, what? #lrnchat
09:25:03 pm blair_ed: Was responding to this RT @lrnchat: Q3) What evidence is there that someone has learned something from you this year? #lrnchat
09:25:04 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q4) Is some evidence more important than other evidence that learning has happened? If so, what? #lrnchat
09:25:21 pm Quinnovator: Q4) moving the needle on those metrics we decided needed impacting #lrnchat
09:25:22 pm chambo_online: Q3) Serious proof someone learned from me…when I don’t have to rebuild my sister’s computer system from a virus meltdown (again) #lrnchat
09:25:22 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q4) Is some evidence more important than other evidence that learning has happened? If so, what? #lrnchat
09:25:25 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q4) Is some evidence more important than other evidence that learning has happened? If so, what? #lrnchat
09:25:26 pm JaneBozarth: Q4) Is some evidence more important than other evidence that learning has happened? I
#lrnchat
09:25:37 pm LnDDave: Q4) Ultimatly, whatever the stakeholder wants as evidence is the most important evidence. #lrnchat
09:25:39 pm ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat when they accept that change is inevitable and do their best with it.
09:25:47 pm chambo_online: RT @lrnchat: Q4) Is some evidence more important than other evidence that learning has happened? If so, what? #lrnchat
09:25:48 pm minutebio: Q4) The evidence that actually supports that change has occured #lrnchat
09:25:54 pm Quinnovator: @LnDDave agreed, but too often the learning unit isn’t focusing on biz goals, it’s about biz outcomes, not smiles #lrnchat
09:26:00 pm ReubenTozman: q4 – no. its about using multiple channels of evidence. its all good – next question #lrnchat
09:26:09 pm blair_ed: Self development RT @lrnchat: Q4) Is some evidence more important than other evidence that learning has happened? If so, what? #lrnchat
09:26:34 pm cammybean: RT @ReubenTozman: q4 – no. its about using multiple channels of evidence. its all good – next question #lrnchat
09:26:41 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q4. Where is my ROI analysis?? What is the ROI of learning? That’s the most important proof for EVERYONE, right?  #lrnchat
09:26:41 pm criticallearner: Q4) #lrnchat stop measuring the knowledge and start looking at evidence of behavior change the results/outcomes
09:26:48 pm kelly_smith01: Q4) Q4) We should define how we judge/measure evidence before we implement the learning/change/program – #lrnchat
09:26:48 pm JaneBozarth: my favorite metric: IT # of tickets closed. Once issued me new laptop b/c G key fell off of my old one. Ticket closed!  #lrnchat
09:26:53 pm MMTingley: @LnDDave Can stakeholder be “trained” to understand what good evidence is? #lrnchat
09:26:58 pm blair_ed: Seeing that you or those you’re training are working well and they come with more solutions that problems #lrnchat
09:27:13 pm JaneBozarth: performance over measures like test scores #lrnchat
09:27:19 pm gwoodill: RT @lrnchat: Q4) Is some evidence more important than other evidence that learning has happened? If so, what? #lrnchat
09:27:22 pm ryantracey: Q4) Love ’em or hate ’em, the performance stats are primary. #popularanswer #lrnchat
09:27:30 pm Quinnovator: @reubentozman gotta disagree: some things may change (smile sheets) but if isn’t having workplace effect, not working #lrnchat
09:27:31 pm ReubenTozman: RT @minutebio: Q4) The evidence that actually supports that change has occured – fine I agree #lrnchat
09:27:32 pm JRSPipBoy2008: Q4) I would say that evidence is in the eye of the beholder.  Its up to the person who is evaluating your performance. #lrnchat
09:27:36 pm KoreenOlbrish: I’m not sure I can make sarcasm work in Twitter. But you all can drink for the ROI mention. You’re welcome.  #lrnchat
09:27:40 pm criticallearner: RT @quinnovator:  too often the learning unit isn’t focusing on biz goals, it’s about biz outcomes #lrnchat > and a core set of them-Pareto
09:27:41 pm LnDDave: @Quinnovator But smiles are a measurement of fun, and ultimately isn’t ‘Fun’ the best measurement of learning? #lrnchat #ImBeingSarcastic
09:27:44 pm ZaraLynnKing: @Quinnovator @LnDDave #lrnchat agree with both my goal to learn to be a driver of change & thinking working with employee dev
09:28:00 pm RamonaMata: Q4) There are too many ways to measure are we talking qty/quality?  Its always a numbers game #lrnchat
09:28:04 pm JRSPipBoy2008: Q4) But the key is knowing how you’re being judged ahead of time so you can meet that challenge head on when it comes your way! #lrnchat
09:28:09 pm SocialWorldBuzz: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q4. Where is my ROI analysis?? What is the ROI of learning? That’s the most important proof for EVERYONE, right?  #lrnchat
09:28:18 pm kelly_smith01: @JaneBozarth Yes – Performance trumps test scores. #lrnchat
09:28:25 pm LnDDave: RT @MMTingley: @LnDDave Can stakeholder be “trained” to understand what good evidence is? #lrnchat <Definitely. I’ve done it.
09:28:30 pm iambeamer: New blog post:
http://t.co/YLSQ7zNn  #edchat #elemed  #lrnchat
09:28:50 pm blair_ed: I think if you teach someone how to learn and not to do then you can prove learning has happened Q4 #lrnchat
09:28:53 pm RamonaMata: @LnDDave @Quinnovator Then why is Have Fun or Make Work Fun a corporate value? #lrnchat
09:29:09 pm criticallearner: Q4) #lrnchat Some evidence more important than others: X TPS forms submitted on time vs “can stop oil from leaking in ocean”
09:29:10 pm JaneBozarth: @KoreenOlbrish people still think there’s “ROI” of training. It’s amazing. #lrnchat
09:29:13 pm ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat in my world training often comes from an issue oopps joe ran over tom with forklift now what?
09:29:21 pm gwoodill: Q4) The gold standard is always proper experimental design with randomized groups. Almost never happens in the learning field. #lrnchat
09:29:28 pm ReubenTozman: @Quinnovator @reubentozman yes but in combo with other channels may help or not help build a case. Thats the point not 1 thing #lrnchat
09:29:43 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: @KoreenOlbrish people still think there’s “ROI” of training. It’s amazing. #lrnchat < think she’s just thirsty
09:29:48 pm rvertiz: RT @JaneBozarth: @KoreenOlbrish people still think theres “ROI” of training. Its amazing. #lrnchat
09:29:55 pm agilistine: Q4) understanding and action > repeating it back verbatim #lrnchat
09:29:57 pm ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat I would like to see ppl realize that by training joe not to run ppl over we can save money
09:30:03 pm audioswhite: @JaneBozarth and you learned that if you want a new laptop pop off a key and open a ticket! #lrnchat #shallowmetrics
09:30:11 pm JaneBozarth: @ZaraLynnKing lol Tom needs training in getting out of the way?  #lrnchat
09:30:18 pm Quinnovator: @reubentozman agree with converging evidence #lrnchat
09:30:19 pm chambo_online: Evidence is in the eye of the stakeholder, wait, that might not have come out right… #lrnchat
09:30:24 pm LnDDave: RT @JaneBozarth: @KoreenOlbrish people think there’s “ROI” of training. #lrnchat <Absurd. (excuse me while I update my Linkedin profile..)
09:30:30 pm kelly_smith01: RT @chambo_online: Evidence is in the eye of the stakeholder, wait, that might not have come out right… #lrnchat
09:30:33 pm ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat when i win that battle i have reached a new level of super awesomeness
09:30:39 pm ReubenTozman: RT @JaneBozarth: performance over measures like test scores  – i disagree – use both…build a case, don’t pick one #lrnchat
09:30:41 pm criticallearner: RT @lnddave: But smiles are a measurement of fun, +ultimately isn’t ‘Fun’ the best measurement of learning? #lrnchat http://t.co/pqySiWKi
09:30:43 pm Quinnovator: RT @chambo_online: Evidence is in the eye of the stakeholder, wait, that might not have come out right… #lrnchat < some latent hostility?
09:31:10 pm MMTingley: RT @criticallearner: Q4) #lrnchat Some evidence more important: X forms submitted on time vs “can stop oil from leaking in ocean” #lrnchat
09:31:11 pm ZaraLynnKing: @JaneBozarth I feel a scenario based training session coming on…lol #lrnchat
09:31:32 pm JaneBozarth: @criticallearner smiles are evidence, yes. Very good.  #lrnchat
09:31:38 pm criticallearner: RT @reubentozman:  performance over measures like test scores  – i disagree – use both…build a case, don’t pick one #lrnchat
09:31:50 pm LnDDave: Q4) the most important measurement varies depending on your role; the metric may be different for an exec than an end user #lrnchat
09:31:50 pm Quinnovator: @RamonaMata because if you do it right, it’s both fun and hitting important metrics #lrnchat
09:31:56 pm agilistine: @goodill good point on gold standard #lrnchat
09:32:04 pm kelly_smith01: Do the Navy Seals take a multiple-choice and essay test to prove mastery? #lrnchat
09:32:05 pm KoreenOlbrish: ADDIE. Affordances. ROI. #drink #drink #drink #lrnchat
09:32:09 pm minutebio: RT @Quinnovator: @RamonaMata because if you do it right, its both fun and hitting important metrics #lrnchat
09:32:10 pm JaneBozarth: @ReubenTozman question was to pick one. I am ONLY FOLLOWING INSTRUCTIONS. #compliant #AsUsual #lrnchat
09:32:27 pm ZaraLynnKing: good q’s RT @kelly_smith01: Do the Navy Seals take a multiple-choice and essay test to prove mastery? #lrnchat
09:32:50 pm ReubenTozman: ok folks…good night. In  my absence you should know that I disagree #lrnchat
09:32:52 pm Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: Do the Navy Seals take a multiple-choice and essay test to prove mastery? #lrnchat < clapping and barking
09:32:53 pm MMTingley: RT @kelly_smith01: Do the Navy Seals take a multiple-choice and essay test to prove mastery? #lrnchat
09:32:57 pm criticallearner: Q4) most evidence that matters comes from the work, not the training #lrnchat
09:32:57 pm dbhasin: RT @megbertapelle: RT @dbhasin: RT @OpenSesameNow: sometimes measuring lrng is like the Supreme Court standard of obscenity: I know it when I see it. #lrnchat
09:33:07 pm RamonaMata: @Quinnovator @RamonaMata Right, I agree; Fun is a great core value.  One of 7 at m former Top 100 companies in US employer #lrnchat
09:33:08 pm dbhasin: RT @Robin_Bridson: LOL! RT @dbhasin: RT @gerdriesen: Q3 Heard one of my trainees who was very timide now has lot of confrontations at work, #oops #lrnchat
09:33:17 pm LnDDave: Q4) ideally I’d be using a quality metric that was agreed upon w/ stakeholders before design even started. #lrnchat
09:33:21 pm chambo_online: RT @kelly_smith01: Do the Navy Seals take a multiple-choice and essay test to prove mastery?—>I’ve heard this somewhere b4… #lrnchat
09:33:28 pm cammybean: @JaneBozarth We’re not convinced.  We know you rarely follow instructions….
#lrnchat
09:33:35 pm KoreenOlbrish: You know, to have “evidence” don’t you have to do “research” or “measurement” or “analysis”? *asking for a friend… #lrnchat
09:33:35 pm Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q4) ideally I’d be using a quality metric that was agreed upon w/ stakeholders before design even started. #lrnchat < bingo!
09:33:51 pm blair_ed: RT @agilistine: Q4) understanding and action > repeating it back verbatim #lrnchat
09:34:02 pm ZaraLynnKing: @LnDDave i wish i could get the stakeholders to talk to me half the time… #lrnchat
09:34:26 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @dbhasin: RT many: RT @OpenSesameNow: sometimes measuring lrng like Supreme Court standard of obscenity: know it when see it. #lrnchat
09:34:28 pm kelly_smith01: @chambo_online May have borrowed the Navy seal thing – but it was unconscious – I have evidence. #lrnchat
09:34:35 pm ryantracey: No, but they do get the hell assessed out of them – RT @kelly_smith01: Do the Navy Seals take an MCQ test to prove mastery? #lrnchat
09:34:41 pm cammybean: @KoreenOlbrish What does this mean? This “evidence” of which you speak? #lrnchat
09:34:42 pm LnDDave: RT @ZaraLynnKing: @LnDDave i wish i could get the stakeholders to talk to me half the time. #lrnchat < Solve a performance problem for them
09:34:52 pm audioswhite: I wax gonna say… “@KoreenOlbrish: You know, to have “evidence” don’t you have to do “research” or “measurement” or “analysis”?  #lrnchat”
09:35:15 pm Quinnovator: RT @KoreenOlbrish: to have “evidence” don’t you have to do “research” or “measurement” or “analysis”? #lrnchat < research FTW!
09:35:17 pm criticallearner: RT @lnddave: Q4) ideally I’d be using a metric that was agreed upon w/ stakeholders before design even started. #lrnchat > Yep, and methods
09:35:22 pm JaneBozarth: Jeez some people are so touchy about ROI. There’s nothing wrong with imaginary numbers. Really.  #lrnchat
09:35:24 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q4) ideally Id using quality metric agreed upon w/ stakeholders b4 design started. #lrnchat < bingo! #lrnchat
09:35:29 pm RamonaMata: Gotta run, been fun, tweet ya later #lrnchat
09:35:41 pm KoreenOlbrish: @cammybean i know, i know…next I’m gonna bring up benchmarking… *gasp* #lrnchat
09:35:46 pm criticallearner: RT @zaralynnking: @LnDDave i wish i could get the stakeholders to talk to me half the time… #lrnchat > align w/biz goals, they usually do
09:35:51 pm ZaraLynnKing: @LnDDave i wish it were that easy  #lrnchat mine are compliance don’t see performance change as easily
09:35:52 pm chambo_online: RT @kelly_smith01: @chambo_online May have borrowed —>all good, said it in a convo this afternoon (same idea, no Seals) #lrnchat
09:35:55 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: some people are so touchy about ROI.  nothing wrong with imaginary numbers. Really.  #lrnchat < you’re just making that up
09:35:57 pm TriciaRansom: Sorry couldn’t jump on tail end of #lrnchat, but Jimmy (my hubby) surprised me with dinner. Can’t wait to read the transcripts!!
09:36:10 pm dbhasin: RT @JoanVinallCox: RT @dbhasin: RT many: RT @OpenSesameNow: sometimes measuring lrng like Supreme Court standard of obscenity: know it when see it. #lrnchat
09:36:18 pm blair_ed: Lol RT @JaneBozarth: Jeez some people are so touchy about ROI. There’s nothing wrong with imaginary numbers. Really.  #lrnchat
09:36:46 pm Quinnovator: RT @KoreenOlbrish: @cammybean i know, i know…next I’m gonna bring up benchmarking… *gasp* #lrnchat < a *powerful* thirst…
09:36:54 pm minutebio: RT @ZaraLynnKing: @LnDDave wish  were tht easy  -mine are compliance dont see performance change as easily | C less fines #lrnchat
09:36:56 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator heh #lrnchat
09:37:06 pm kelly_smith01: To some ROI is a “safe” word. #lrnchat
09:37:20 pm Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: To some ROI is a “safe” word. #lrnchat < and to some, a dirty word
09:37:20 pm lrnchat: Q5) Who can you help learn which evidence matters and what really doesn’t? #lrnchat
09:37:26 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q5) Who can you help learn which evidence matters and what really doesn’t? #lrnchat
09:37:32 pm ZaraLynnKing: RT @lrnchat: Q5) Who can you help learn which evidence matters and what really doesn’t? #lrnchat
09:37:36 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q5) Who can you help learn which evidence matters and what really doesn’t? #lrnchat
09:37:43 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q5) Who can you help learn which evidence matters and what really doesn’t? #lrnchat
09:37:44 pm Quinnovator: Q5) stakeholders! #lrnchat
09:37:49 pm LnDDave: RT @Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: To some ROI is a “safe” word. #lrnchat < and to some, a dirty word < And to others… a paycheck
09:37:52 pm ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat come one ppl i need to learn from you one this one.
09:37:58 pm audioswhite: Hmmm –  I have not yet learned the position of the “s” vs the position of the “x” on the iPad keyboard. evidence is last tweet. #lrnchat
09:38:02 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q5) Who can you help learn which evidence matters and what really doesnt? #lrnchat
09:38:02 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @lrnchat: Q5) Who can you help learn which evidence matters and what really doesnt? #lrnchat
09:38:20 pm LnDDave: RT @Quinnovator: Q5) stakeholders! #lrnchat < Every. Single. One.
09:38:23 pm MMTingley: benchmarking – Can’t really explain it, but I have never liked that word. #lrnchat
09:38:29 pm JRSPipBoy2008: @KoreenOlbrish I’d think someone does … someone certainly should #lrnchat
09:38:29 pm Quinnovator: @audioswhite sounds like it could lead to some interesting typos!😉 #lrnchat
09:38:34 pm criticallearner: Q5) #lrnchat the biz, the industry, the c-suite, the employees, the customers: all stakeholders in the chain
09:38:35 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q5. the person who will be paying your salary/invoices #lrnchat
09:38:45 pm kwooleyy: RT @JaneBozarth: Jeez some people are so touchy about ROI. There’s nothing wrong with imaginary numbers. Really.  #lrnchat
09:38:59 pm Quinnovator: Q5) the learners!  #lrnchat
09:39:00 pm kelly_smith01: Q5) The performers. #lrnchat
09:39:11 pm cammybean: Q5) Ummm…yeah, pretty much everyone. #lrnchat
09:39:15 pm LnDDave: Q5) Kirkpatrick and Phillips.😉 #lrnchat
09:39:16 pm ZaraLynnKing: RT @lrnchat: Q5) Who can you help learn which evidence matters and what really doesn’t? #lrnchat
09:39:20 pm chambo_online: RT @Quinnovator: Q5) the learners!  #lrnchat
09:39:23 pm Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: Q5) The performers. #lrnchat < like his better
09:39:28 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @Quinnovator: Q5) the learners!  #lrnchat
09:39:29 pm LnDDave: RT @Quinnovator: Q5) the learners!  #lrnchat
09:39:30 pm kelly_smith01: RT @LnDDave: Q5) Kirkpatrick and Phillips.😉 #lrnchat😀
09:39:41 pm Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q5) Kirkpatrick and Phillips.😉 #lrnchat < yes, but *drink*
09:39:49 pm KoreenOlbrish: @MMTingley i don’t like the word “moist.” I know that has nothing to do with anything, but… I love the word epiphany.  #lrnchat
09:40:01 pm chambo_online: RT @LnDDave: Q5) Kirkpatrick and Phillips.😉 —>and from the audience you could hear a loud boo and hissss arise  #lrnchat
09:40:14 pm kelly_smith01: The evening was moist. #lrnchat
09:40:18 pm JaneBozarth: @LnDDave @Kelly_Smith01 “ROI” is a great way to get out of doing something: “We can’t measure ROI on that”= you don’t have to do it #lrnchat
09:40:20 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat I am 60% sure I heard somewhere that 80% of the metrics in ROI studies were made up😉
09:40:21 pm LnDDave: RT @Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q5) Kirkpatrick and Phillips.😉 #lrnchat < yes, but *drink* << Snark AND a drink? Double #Winning!
09:40:24 pm ryantracey: Q5) Your customers. #lrnchat
09:40:36 pm kelly_smith01: RT @ryantracey: Q5) Your customers. #lrnchat
09:40:55 pm KoreenOlbrish: @kelly_smith01 damn you🙂 #lrnchat
09:40:58 pm JaneBozarth: RT @criticallearner: #lrnchat I am 60% sure I heard somewhere that 80% of the metrics in ROI studies were made up😉 #lrnchat
09:41:00 pm blair_ed: The audience the learning affects RT @lrnchat: Q5) Who can you help learn which evidence matters and what really doesn’t? #lrnchat
09:41:21 pm LnDDave: RT @ryantracey: Q5) Your customers. #lrnchat < Actually, I think it’s our customers who can teach us more about this.
09:41:38 pm criticallearner: Q5) The ROI of Kirkpatrick and Phillips models is their mention during #lrnchat (bottoms up!)
09:41:38 pm ZaraLynnKing: RT @LnDDave: RT @ryantracey: Q5) Your customers. #lrnchat < Actually, I think it’s our customers who can teach us more about this.
09:41:48 pm MMTingley: LOL!  Lots of ppl hate that one! RT @KoreenOlbrish: @MMTingley i dont like the word “moist.” but… I love the word epiphany.  #lrnchat
09:41:49 pm Quinnovator: @LnDDave LOL  #lrnchat #Winning
09:41:56 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @criticallearner: I am 60% sure I heard somewhere that 80% of the metrics in ROI studies were made up😉 #lrnchat
09:42:09 pm chambo_online: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @criticallearner: Those stats are correct…75% of the time. #lrnchat
09:42:34 pm anicole87: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @criticallearner: I am 60% sure I heard somewhere that 80% of the metrics in ROI studies were made up😉 #lrnchat
09:42:58 pm chambo_online: @MMTingley @KoreenOlbrish  – what about “joist”? Is the the “m” or the “oist”? Or the combo? #lrnchat
09:43:03 pm ronindotca: At staff retreat we wrote 5 KPIs. I circled 1. Colleagues asked why. I said “it’s meaningless so it’ll be the one they choose” #lrnchat
09:43:04 pm Quinnovator: RT @criticallearner: #lrnchat am 60% sure I heard somewhere that 80% of the metrics in ROI studies were made up😉 < you just made those up
09:43:04 pm JRSPipBoy2008: Q5) I’d have to think its the person who signs your … aww man @KoreenOlbrish I turn my head for ONE second! What she said #lrnchat
09:43:16 pm criticallearner: @chambo_online @JaneBozarth 42.3% of all stats are made up anyhow #lrnchat
09:43:36 pm ZaraLynnKing: ok i am all about bottom line so i agree it has to make or save $$ but what about the ppl?  #lrnchat just to be all mushy & idealistic
09:44:15 pm KoreenOlbrish: @chambo_online @MMTingley not crazy about joist either, but the m makes it worse somehow… #lrnchat #ewww
09:44:24 pm kelly_smith01: 62.46 % stats result from non existent studies or surveys. #lrnchat
09:45:00 pm Quinnovator: @ZaraLynnKing even the mushy stuff comes down to $$ (e.g. happier people stay, and retention is cheaper than recruitment) #lrnchat
09:45:06 pm LnDDave: Q5) you’d be surprised how much mileage you can get from “I can give you that, but wouldn’t you prefer something of actual value.” #lrnchat
09:45:14 pm ryantracey: @LnDDave Ah, that’s what I meant #lrnchat
09:45:23 pm blair_ed: Exactly RT @ZaraLynnKing: ok i am all about bottom line so i agree it has to make or save $$ but what about the ppl?  #lrnchat
09:45:40 pm LnDDave: RT @ryantracey: @LnDDave Ah, that’s what I meant #lrnchat << Then… I agree!
09:45:55 pm KoreenOlbrish: Great idea for a future topic: bring your opinion that needs evidence & we’ll make up some data to support it!  #lrnchat
09:46:17 pm ryantracey: @LnDDave :0) #lrnchat
09:46:19 pm Quinnovator: @KoreenOlbrish sounds like you have a career in marketing! #lrnchat
09:46:23 pm ZaraLynnKing: @Quinnovator exactly so how are you convincing ppl that real training not multiple choice quizzes are doing it? #lrnchat
09:47:16 pm Quinnovator: @ZaraLynnKing multiple choice doesn’t make people stay in the company, meaningful tasks do #lrnchat
09:47:18 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat anyone attempting to comb workstreams/activity for evidence- “mining what’s there” vs “trying to monitor up front”?
09:47:29 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: @ZaraLynnKing multiple choice doesn’t make people stay in the company, meaningful tasks do #lrnchat
09:48:01 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @Quinnovator: @ZaraLynnKing multiple choice doesnt make people stay in the company, meaningful tasks do #lrnchat
09:48:02 pm elliotrosenberg: You try the metric of “student days”. Oh so stupid.  #lrnchat
09:48:37 pm Quinnovator: RT @elliotrosenberg: You try the metric of “student days”. Oh so stupid.  #lrnchat < as Gloria Gery said, “may as well weigh them”
09:48:51 pm anicole87: RT @LnDDave: Q5) you’d be surprised how much mileage you can get from “I can give you that, but wouldn’t you prefer something of actual value.” #lrnchat
09:49:03 pm criticallearner: Q5> If stakholders still into “burgers served” type metrics, go beyond and show some actual contribution metrics #lrnchat
09:49:04 pm ZaraLynnKing: @Quinnovator what tools do you use to sell your opinion. Sure it is right but Mandela also spent most his life in jail. #lrnchat
09:49:55 pm Quinnovator: @ZaraLynnKing I use 3 letters: Ph.D. But not all can do that ;)  Seriously, research.  Look at Pink’s Drive, for example. #lrnchat
09:50:00 pm ZaraLynnKing: @criticallearner  #lrnchat how? what are you doing?
09:50:09 pm JaneBozarth: RT @LnDDave: Q5) you’d be surprised how much mileage you can get from “I can give you that, but wouldn’t you prefer something of actual value.” #lrnchat
09:50:17 pm criticallearner: @zaralynnking #lrnchat- sometimes you have to pass thru the “compliance” to ensure stakeholders can talk performance (CYAs are 1st for some)
09:50:28 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome. #lrnchat
09:50:37 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome. #lrnchat < that time already?
09:50:40 pm JRSPipBoy2008: Good evening #lrnchat … have to call it a night.  Thanks for the very interesting discussion!  Have a good night everyone!
09:50:56 pm Quinnovator: thanks to new and returning participants for another great #lrnchat
09:51:01 pm chambo_online: I asked a waitress friend when was the last time she took a Mult Choice test. Her answer: Driver’s Test, Food Handler’s Permit.  #lrnchat
09:51:43 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, sometimes freelancer enjoying the “full” class of #lrnchat folks.🙂
09:51:52 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome. #lrnchat
09:52:04 pm JoanVinallCox: Joan Vinall-Cox from Oakville, Ontario. Thanks for the good time and learning! Bon Soir! #lrnchat
09:52:19 pm JRSPipBoy2008: Qwrap) Oh .. Jack Shipley – Business Analyst .. friend to little people, puppies, and One Armed Bandits. Night all! #lrnchat
09:52:39 pm ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat thanks everyone great sarcastic chat tonight. check me out http://t.co/PpZGqBj0 HootLearning Solutions now open for business.
09:52:45 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat David Glow, Tampa, FL: If you are using SoMe or Project Based learning evidence, pls contact me to participate in a study.
09:52:46 pm KoreenOlbrish: Koreen Olbrish, Tandem Learning, writing a book on immersive learning, teaching a grad class on game design, running a company #lrnchat
09:53:01 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman – eLearning Designer in Baltimore. My Blog – http://www.minutebio.com/blog  #lrnchat
09:53:18 pm JaneBozarth: Join me for Social Learning Ninja Camp @Learning3Point0 conference.No snake oil. no buzzwords, less filling.  #lrnchat
09:53:31 pm KoreenOlbrish: Send me your suggestions for emerging tech you’d like to hear more about at #devlearn #dl11!! #lrnchat
09:53:37 pm larrystraining: RT @JaneBozarth: Join me for Social Learning Ninja Camp @Learning3Point0 conference.No snake oil. no buzzwords, less filling.  #lrnchat
09:54:05 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: Join Jane for Social Learning Ninja Camp @Learning3Point0 conference.No snake oil. no buzzwords, less filling.  #lrnchat
09:54:25 pm minutebio: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Send me your suggestions for emerging tech youd like to hear more about at #devlearn #dl11!! #lrnchat
09:55:10 pm chambo_online: Lisa Chamberlin, freelance ID, cross-country move survivor, talking about blogging on the intranet at #DevLearn! #dl11 #lrnchat
09:55:24 pm britz: I wont miss #lrnchat next week, I wont miss #lrnchat next week, I wont miss #lrnchat next week, I wont miss #lrnchat next week…
09:55:31 pm MMTingley: Melissa Tingley – eLearning ID and general edugeek. Boston  Goodnight all! #lrnchat
09:55:35 pm agilistine: Thanks everyone, learning from you all tonight proved to be a great ROI😉 #lrnchat
09:55:39 pm Quinnovator: join me for elearning strategy wkshop at Learning 3.0 in Chicago, and/or mobile strategy workshop at DevLearn #lrnchat
09:55:44 pm ZaraLynnKing: RT @agilistine: Thanks everyone, learning from you all tonight proved to be a great ROI😉 #lrnchat
09:55:56 pm KoreenOlbrish: @britz #lrnchat missed YOU this week!
09:56:05 pm cammybean: New buzzword: “Read ’em and weep elearning” http://t.co/OUd45hAN #lrnchat
09:56:08 pm AjayPangarkar: Sorry for being away…Ajay Pangarkar…contact me if you want to be part of my next book “The ROI Lie” #lrnchat
09:56:45 pm SocialWorldBuzz: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Send me your suggestions for emerging tech you’d like to hear more about at #devlearn #dl11!! #lrnchat
09:56:57 pm Quinnovator: @cammybean sounds like “leave ’em bleeding and weeping” learning #lrnchat
09:57:10 pm LnDDave: Thanks for a great chat! I often post reflections on #lrnchat discussions on my blog; an archive can be found here: http://t.co/zbeNPrYN
09:57:14 pm minutebio: @KoreenOlbrish Would like to hear more about HTML5 and what it can & can’t do #lrnchat
09:57:32 pm KoreenOlbrish: i LOVE this🙂 #stealingit #withattributionofcourse RT @cammybean: New buzzword: “Read em and weep elearning” http://t.co/JWgGJeps #lrnchat
09:57:34 pm LnDDave: RT @KoreenOlbrish: @britz #lrnchat missed YOU this week!
09:57:44 pm cammybean: @Quinnovator @KoreenOlbrish I don’t know, but it’s bloody awful! #lrnchat
09:58:18 pm KoreenOlbrish: @minutebio awesome! on it!🙂 thanks!!! #lrnchat
09:58:49 pm cammybean: @KoreenOlbrish @Quinnovator I’ve decided my true specialty is coming up with new buzzwords. #lrnchat
09:59:12 pm blair_ed: I work in nonprofit higher ed. MS in Org Dvlpmt & Knowledge Mgmt. #lrnchat newbie. Mindnewframes.wordpress.com linkedin.com/in/blairedwards
09:59:16 pm AjayPangarkar: RT @JaneBozarth: Jeez some people are so touchy about ROI. There’s nothing wrong with imaginary numbers. Really.  #lrnchat
09:59:21 pm Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: I often post reflections on #lrnchat discussions on my blog; an archive can be found here: http://t.co/mcRz1Kvs
09:59:22 pm lrnchat: Thanks for joining #lrnchat. We’ll post the transcript on http://lrnchat.com See you again NEXT WEEK.🙂

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