Transcript – 28 October (late)

08:30:52 pm lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been? Q0 warm up after the rules.
08:31:07 pm gminks: me too! RT @KoreenOlbrish: about to start a tweetstorm for #lrnchat
08:31:43 pm lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1. Introduce yourself. (We do this again at the end). Location? Focus? Fave topics?
08:31:58 pm weisblatt: About to start tweeting on #lrnchat a great way to hear about new ideas in learning, every Thursday at 8:30
08:32:34 pm lrnchat: Rule2. [try to] stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 20 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
08:32:59 pm TriciaRansom: Its Thursday which means #lrnchat. Barrage of learning and development tweets coming…come join us!
08:33:24 pm lrnchat: Rule3. When writing, complete thoughts help followers outside chat learn from you. #lrnchat
08:33:26 pm kelly_smith01: I hope my WiFi Hotel subscription does no expire during #lrnchat
08:33:28 pm JaneBozarth: Raleigh-ish, keeping celebrities alive on Thursdays for over a year, flaunting my org’s love of social media, firestarter,font snob #lrnchat
08:33:33 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been? <<<gonna miss #lrnchat …children still wide, wide awake.
08:33:39 pm britz: ok, ok…how can i miss a "twittstorm @KoreenOlbrish #lrnchat
08:33:43 pm weisblatt: #lrnchat Adam Weisblatt, Fairfield, CT, Consultant, focused on Learning Infrastructure Processes
08:33:46 pm learningcouncil: #lrnchat Sanjay Nasta community manager Elearningcouncil.com. Relieved that #ELS2010 is one
08:34:36 pm lrnchat: Rule4. Remember to include the #lrnchat in all posts. http://tweetchat.com http://tweetgrid.com & http://twubs.com work well
08:34:46 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith ISD/Consultant currently in Denver #lrnchat
08:34:54 pm gminks: Gina from outside Boston, doing social media for EMC Education! #lrnchat
08:34:58 pm TriciaRansom: Whats up with this? Great Pumpkin over and now it’s “Your *not* elected Charlie Brown? harumph #lrnchat
08:35:13 pm daviddlacroix: David D. LaCroix, learning and education specialist in the D of C. http://linkd.in/bBqkdl #lrnchat
08:35:24 pm JaneBozarth: I flaunt the way my organization has embraced social media. Do not provoke me or I will flaunt it for a second time.
#lrnchat
08:35:38 pm KoreenOlbrish: Koreen Olbrish, Tandem Learning, Philly ‘burbs, games-sims-virtual worlds-ARGs-all things new learning tech, optimist #lrnchat
08:35:45 pm LandDDave: David Kelly, Training Director in NYC. Greetings all! #lrnchat
08:35:45 pm lrnchat: Rule5. Periodically RT questions so others outside #lrnchat know what you’re talking about so they can chime in too.
08:35:48 pm dawnjmahoney: #lrnchat Q0)Dawn near Mad-Town WI Trng Mgr. Renewed interest lately in raising the bar on Instr Design
08:35:55 pm TriciaRansom: Tricia in Chicago watching Charlie Brown and an L&D learner. #lrnchat
08:35:58 pm britz: mark britz – ISD …performance sleuthing today…in the 315 #lrnchat
08:36:17 pm ronindotca: Hey #lrnchat ppl, have fun today I’m up to heaps of work so can’t join you Hey, if you’re off to devlearn make sure to say hi to @mauricefli
08:36:25 pm lrnchat: Rule6. On #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm & irony welcome though. Really
08:36:26 pm TriciaRansom: @JaneBozarth Do not make me taunt/flaunt you a 2nd time #lrnchat
08:36:38 pm kellygarber: Kelly – freelance ID – florida. Evening all!
#lrnchat
08:36:50 pm KoreenOlbrish: I saw @busynessgirl’s title is learning futurist. #iwantthat #lrnchat
08:36:54 pm TriciaRansom: @JaneBozarth just watched Monty Python Holy Grail…favorite part is the taunters #lrnchat
08:37:00 pm kelly_smith01: Flaunt it Flaunt it – Zero Mostel in The Producers #lrnchat
08:37:20 pm JaneBozarth: Thinking we should change name of this to #Kellychat #lrnchat
08:37:27 pm lrnchat: Rule7. 10 min before the end of #lrnchat, reintroduce yourself. Links, requests, & shameless plugs welcome, too.
08:37:59 pm ThomasStone: Thomas Stone from Element K in Rochester, NY. Good evening all fellow #lrnchat folks!
08:38:05 pm Trybarefoot: Here in the shadows: Gerard, Nova Scotia, Canada. Consultant – facilitation, training & development in health care and beyond! #lrnchat
08:38:06 pm gminks: OMG community is crazy!! ZOMBIES #lrnchat
08:38:08 pm kellygarber: RT @JaneBozarth: Thinking we should change name of this to #Kellychat <– I 2nd that motion #lrnchat
08:38:21 pm britz: RT @JaneBozarth: Thinking we should change name of this to #Kellychat < classic! #lrnchat
08:38:31 pm lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
08:38:35 pm everyselearning: Hi to all lrnchatters! Sorry to be late! #lrnchat
08:38:47 pm JaneBozarth: @kellygarber well there are certainly a lot of you here
#lrnchat
08:38:52 pm kellygarber: Is my memory failing or do we have more rules?
#lrnchat
08:38:59 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman, e-Learning Designer and lately keeper of the dreaded HIPAA training. Baltimore, MD #LRNCHAT
08:39:30 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
08:39:44 pm gminks: RT @kellygarber: Is my memory failing or do we have more rules? < you are asking for MORE rules? #lrnchat
08:39:53 pm chambo_online: Lisa Chamberlin, quadruple multi-tasking tonight…semi-distracted due to my Zombie state #lrnchat
08:40:01 pm dawnjmahoney: Q0) Welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week? #lrnchat I am often in the company of giants
08:40:01 pm stickylearning: Michael Eury, learning designer in Melbourne Australia…Good morning all! (Now with #lrnchat)
08:40:02 pm gminks: RT @minutebio: Jeff Goldman, e-Learning Designer and lately keeper of the dreaded HIPAA training <— sweet #lrnchat
08:40:03 pm daviddlacroix: Q0: I learned that somebody made a cartoon/movie about why not to regret leaving academia: http://youtu.be/obTNwPJvOI8 #lrnchat
08:40:11 pm kelly_smith01: I learned that it is cool to see a sun set behind the Rockies. #lrnchat
08:40:21 pm weisblatt: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
08:40:45 pm mequel: @Mequel-Birmingham, AL – Corporate Trainer-Grad. TA http://tinyurl.com/27l4lcd #lrnchat
08:40:51 pm kellygarber: RT @gminks: RT @kellygarber: Is my memory failing or do we have more rules? < you are asking for MORE rules? < eeek, no! #lrnchat
08:40:59 pm TriciaRansom: RT @kellygarber: Is my memory failing or do we have more rules? #lrnchat <– Drinking game rules?
08:41:02 pm gminks: Q0) I learned if you ask people why something scares them, they are usually DYING to tell you #lrnchat
08:41:05 pm JaneBozarth: I learned that some people still do not have The Google on their computers. Bless their hearts.
#lrnchat
08:41:36 pm minutebio: Q0) Learned 2day – I am not the easiest person to have attend your classroom training… I tried 2 behave, really. #LRNCHAT
08:41:47 pm LandDDave: Q0) I learned that I can watch the World Series on my iPad – despite Cablevision and Fox conspring to prevent me from watching it #lrnchat
08:41:50 pm Trybarefoot: I learned about the tremendous impact poverty has on our health. #lrnchat
08:41:50 pm TriciaRansom: Q0) I learned that some people don't know how to do keyword searches or use filters to find information. #lrnchat
08:41:53 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q0. Learned its better to stand up to bullies, the truth always comes out, honesty is the best policy & patience is a virtue. #lrnchat
08:41:53 pm britz: i learned that i carved my pumpkins waaaaay too early! #lrnchat
08:42:07 pm chambo_online: I learned that despite years of working online, I still edit better when I print the @#$%^ thing out. #lrnchat
08:42:07 pm JaneBozarth: I learned about F'book's new Friendship Pages today. Like it. #lrnchat
08:42:10 pm stickylearning: This week I learnt that babies with ear infections don't sleep very well! #lrnchat
08:42:14 pm KoreenOlbrish: Also learned cliches are cliches for a reason…😉 #lrnchat
08:42:17 pm ronindotca: OMG Q0) I learned that one of our campus moodle people doesn't believe in online learning. At all. #lrnchat
08:42:19 pm weisblatt: Q0 I learned that if you think too hard, your brain will hurt #lrnchat
08:42:26 pm JaneBozarth: @TriciaRansom Do they have The Google? #lrnchat
08:42:31 pm everyselearning: I learned that maybe, possibly "free as a business model" could conceivably work for my business http://bit.ly/9j0oXv #lrnchat
08:42:47 pm gminks: RT @ronindotca: OMG Q0) I learned that one of our campus moodle people doesnt believe in online learning. At all. <—what! #lrnchat
08:43:15 pm JaneBozarth: I learned that a group of "distance educators" will have to be sold on the idea of a virtual conference instead of F2F. #shootme #lrnchat
08:43:16 pm LearnNuggets: Q0) Kevin, Memphis, TN via iPhone. Participated in #lrnchat earlier today so lurking in the shadows tonight.
08:43:42 pm HalellyAzulay: RT @dawnjmahoney: Q0) Welcome: What have you learned today? this week? #lrnchat < that the US doesn't actually hv an official language!
08:43:42 pm JaneBozarth: Feel yr pain. RT @ronindotca: OMG Q0) I learned that one of our campus moodle people doesnt believe in online learning. At all. #lrnchat
08:43:45 pm britz: oh, oh …I also learned that my evolutionary, under the radar approach to use SM for enterprise learning is working! #lrnchat
08:43:48 pm allonsdanser: I learned that acquiring a professional eye for critical evaluation is hard to do. #lrnchat
08:44:11 pm midquel: Q0) I learned about online resources for creating comics, like Pixton; saw examples of use in grad ed- http://tinyurl.com/2fowxcg #lrnchat
08:44:35 pm mequel: @ Q0) I've learned that I have potential and that I can help others to see theirs.

#lrnchat
08:44:39 pm KoreenOlbrish: @britz congrats! evolution is progress!
#lrnchat
08:44:39 pm TriciaRansom: Q0) I learned that editing means you'll miss the one glaring obvious mistake a VIP catches in training… #lrnchat
08:44:58 pm TriciaRansom: @JaneBozarth Apparently not. sigh. #lrnchat
08:44:59 pm JaneBozarth: RT @britz: learned that my evolutionary, under the radar approach to use SM for enterprise learning is working! <— my hero #lrnchat
08:45:03 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @JaneBozarth: I learned that a group of "distance educators" will have to be sold on the idea of a virtual conference instead of F2F. #shootme #lrnchat
08:45:24 pm lrnchat: Q1) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *aligned* with organizational objectives? #lrnchat
08:45:38 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @gminks: RT @ronindotca: OMG Q0) I learned that one of our campus moodle people doesnt believe in online learning. At all. <—what! #lrnchat
08:45:38 pm midquel: Wow. RT @ronindotca: OMG Q0) I learned that one of our campus moodle people doesn't believe in online learning. At all. #lrnchat
08:45:50 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *aligned* with organizational objectives? #LRNCHAT
08:45:54 pm Trybarefoot: Also learned that eggs keep longer if you store them pointy side DOWN – yup! #lrnchat
08:45:55 pm britz: @KoreenOlbrish yes, yes… we are building a groundswell in the org…one new hire group at a time. #lrnchat
08:45:56 pm TriciaRansom: Q0) I learned that I need to buy a walkman ASAP if I want a piece of history. #lrnchat
08:46:00 pm briandusablon: Have to skip #lrnchat tonight. Editing 1st #lrntalk podcast and packing for Cali. Catch y'all next week, live from SF! #DevLearn #DL10
08:46:01 pm LearnNuggets: Ha! RT @chambo_online: I learned that despite years of working online, I still edit better when I print the @#$%^ thing out. #lrnchat
08:46:02 pm LandDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *aligned* with organizational objectives? #lrnchat
08:46:07 pm daviddlacroix: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *aligned* with organizational objectives? #lrnchat
08:46:10 pm KoreenOlbrish: @TriciaRansom I can NOT edit my own stuff. And as soon as I publish something publicly, someone will find a mistake, guaranteed🙂 #lrnchat
08:46:21 pm gminks: RT @TriciaRansom: Q0) I learned that I need to buy a walkman ASAP if I want a piece of history. <–true #lrnchat
08:46:23 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *aligned* with organizational objectives? #lrnchat
08:46:28 pm gminks: RT @LandDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *aligned* with organizational objectives? #lrnchat
08:46:32 pm dawnjmahoney: RT@TriciaRansom: Q0) I learned that editing means you'll miss the one glaring obvious mistake a VIP catches in training… #lrnchat
08:46:40 pm stickylearning: Q1) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *aligned* with organizational objectives? #lrnchat (via @lrnchat)
08:46:46 pm LaurenLK: @lrnchat What have I learned today? Twiddl – a whole new app I didn't know about! Good for freelancers. #lrnchat
08:46:47 pm TriciaRansom: @KoreenOlbrish Why is that? sheesh #lrnchat
08:46:49 pm JaneBozarth: Hey, tell people for $199 I'll install The Google on their computers with free lifetime upgrades. #lrnchat
08:47:00 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @Trybarefoot: Also learned that eggs keep longer if you store them pointy side DOWN – yup! #lrnchat
08:47:04 pm Trybarefoot: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *aligned* with organizational objectives? #lrnchat
08:47:06 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q1. Before you can be aligned, first you have to define the organizational objectives, right? #lrnchat
08:47:09 pm weisblatt: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *aligned* with organizational objectives? #lrnchat
08:47:10 pm TriciaRansom: @gminks I fondly remember my 1st one. #lrnchat
08:47:12 pm LandDDave: Q1) Sounds silly, but making sure you understand what the organizational objectives are is a good start. #lrnchat
08:47:14 pm HalellyAzulay: RT @dawnjmahoney: RT @JaneBozarth: I learned that a group of "distance educators" hv2B sold on idea of virtual conf instd of F2F. #lrnchat
08:47:18 pm LaurenLK: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *aligned* with organizational objectives? #lrnchat
08:47:35 pm minutebio: Q1) My last org required that we begin training with how the course supports our org's mission. I included in online courses 2 #LRNCHAT
08:47:36 pm TriciaRansom: #lrnchat
08:47:39 pm Trybarefoot: *grins* RT @dawnjmahoney: RT @Trybarefoot: Also learned that eggs keep longer if you store them pointy side DOWN – yup! #lrnchat
08:47:51 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) Know what your organization's objectives are #lrnchat
08:48:14 pm mequel: @midquel Great information!!!! #lrnchat
08:48:20 pm britz: RT @LandDDave: Q1) making sure you understand what the organizational objectives are is a good start. Understandable. A lot is politics.
08:50:05 pm Trybarefoot: Q1) ‘needs conversations’ with clients – to confirm objectives – the off and running! #lrnchat
08:50:12 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *aligned* with organizational objectives? #lrnchat
08:50:14 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q1. before you design anything, ask yourself…will this help my company make more money? #cynicalanswer #lrnchat
08:50:27 pm LandDDave: RT @ryantracey: Q1) Consult the owners of those objectives. << I like that answer! #lrnchat
08:50:28 pm TriciaRansom: @weisblatt We think alike…I said "reword them in plain English". #lrnchat
08:50:31 pm allonsdanser: @kelly_smith01 It's a great observation! #lrnchat
08:50:40 pm stickylearning: Q1 you must dig, dig, dig to make sure you uncover the written org objectives & the unwritten ones too! #lrnchat
08:50:42 pm gminks: Q1 be embedded in the business – be there as they build the product/service #lrnchat
08:50:59 pm daviddlacroix: Q1: What's the margin of error on "alignment," anyway? #lrnchat
08:50:59 pm mequel: @Q1) Become a subject matter expert in the business you're training or designing training for you can't design from an ivory tower. #lrnchat
08:51:10 pm TriciaRansom: @stickylearning oooohhh. that's good! #lrnchat
08:51:23 pm edwsonoma: @KoreenOlbrish perhaps one should see how the organization has defined organizational objectives #lrnchat
08:51:28 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Identify the objectives that align with performance both employee performance & organization performance #lrnchat
08:51:32 pm TriciaRansom: RT @stickylearning: Q1 you must dig, dig, dig to make sure you uncover the written org objectives & the unwritten ones too! #lrnchat
08:51:40 pm mequel: Q1) Embed yourself in the business like a war correspondent. LOL #lrnchat
08:51:49 pm chambo_online: Make sure objs r measureable, observeable, & avoid at all costs, using the word "understand" as in-the employee will understand xyz #lrnchat
08:51:52 pm midquel: LoL! RT @daviddlacroix: Q1: What's the margin of error on "alignment," anyway? #lrnchat
08:51:55 pm gminks: RT @mequel: @Q1) Become a subject matter expert in the business youre training or designing training for #lrnchat
08:51:59 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @mequel: @Q1) Become a subject matter expert in the business you're training or designing training for you can't design from an ivory tower. #lrnchat
08:52:04 pm JaneBozarth: RT @mequel: Q1) Embed yourself in the business like a war correspondent. LOL #lrnchat
08:52:06 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @daviddlacroix: Q1: What's the margin of error on "alignment," anyway? #lrnchat
08:52:19 pm LaurenLK: @TriciaRansom Yeah. Called organizational culture. #lrnchat
08:52:22 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @chambo_online: Make sure objs r measureable, observeable, & avoid at all costs, using the word "understand" as in-the employee will understand xyz #lrnchat
08:52:25 pm everyselearning: RT @mequel Q1) Embed yourself in the business like a war correspondent. LOL #lrnchat
08:53:35 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) Make sure the objectives are achievable, realistic, applicable, and actionable to employees. #lrnchat
08:53:35 pm daviddlacroix: Q1: I mean, I'm all for alignment, but not at the expense of the opportunity for something new to evolve through learning. #lrnchat
08:53:35 pm kelly_smith01: @stickylearning You nay not want to be "caught" digging for unwritten objectives – be open/direct #lrnchat
08:53:39 pm minutebio: Q1) Good idea to also show how learning helped achieve orgs objectives afterwards (show "results" – level 4) #LRNCHAT
08:53:40 pm JaneBozarth: Q1) Find 3 people who can give you the same definition of 'alignment'. #lrnchat
08:53:41 pm LandDDave: Q1) The more common problem is when learner objectives are not aligned with the organizational objectives #lrnchat
08:53:41 pm sukay42: #lrnchat q1 ask those who write the org obj what behaviors they expect to demonstrate those obj's and what outcomes the expect.
08:53:47 pm britz: btw. i'm stealing this question for upcoming interviews we're doing! #lrnchat
08:53:51 pm latelierdelisse: Late checking in to #lrnchat
08:53:53 pm edwsonoma: @KoreenOlbrish that'was a question #lrnchat
08:54:00 pm wilko64: Q1) Have frequent and informed conversations and ensure that a learning solution is needed in the first place #lrnchat
08:54:02 pm mequel: Q1) Check with the organization and perform an ROI analysis. If it's important measure the impact…if not why the hell do it @ all #lrnchat
08:54:20 pm weisblatt: Q1: Reframe your content so that it logically leads in the same direction as the organizational objectives #lrnchat
08:54:26 pm atsc: #lrnchat Q0) What have you learned today? – Came to realisation that the iPad may just be the best computer ever made…
08:54:29 pm HalellyAzulay: Really?! I never heard that B4 // RT @Trybarefoot: Also learned that eggs keep longer if you store them pointy side DOWN – yup! #lrnchat
08:54:38 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @edwsonoma: @KoreenOlbrish Q1)perhaps one should see how the organization has defined organizational objectives #lrnchat
08:54:40 pm JaneBozarth: Q1 Find 3 people who can give you the same answer about what 'success' looks like #lrnchat
08:54:55 pm hjarche: Q1) ask What are people not doing that we want them to be doing? http://is.gd/gpvt5 #lrnchat
08:54:57 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) Seems like many of us are talking about difference between objective writers and front-line doer's #lrnchat
08:54:59 pm minutebio: RT @weisblatt: Q1: Reframe your content so that it logically leads in the same direction as the organizational objectives #LRNCHAT
08:55:00 pm shiftguru: @JaneBozarth Q1) Like getting to training's Carnegie Hall: dialog, dialog, dialog. #lrnchat
08:55:06 pm daviddlacroix: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1) Find 3 people who can give you the same definition of alignment. #lrnchat
08:55:10 pm LandDDave: RT @britz: btw. im stealing this question for upcoming interviews were doing! << again, it's 'borrowing'! #lrnchat
08:55:24 pm stickylearning: @kelly_smith01 Yep, totally agree, dig out in the open, get others to help, work together! #lrnchat
08:55:35 pm mequel: @weisblatt Sadly some organizations don't really know what there objectives are😦 #lrnchat
08:55:42 pm chambo_online: Is @quinnovator here? We need a ruling…should RO be relegated to a drinking offense? #lrnchat
08:55:50 pm LandDDave: RT @shiftguru: @JaneBozarth Q1) Like getting to trainings Carnegie Hall: dialog, dialog, dialog. #lrnchat
08:55:52 pm TriciaRansom: RT @mequel: Q1) Check w/org and perform an ROI analysis. If it's important measure the impact…if not why the hell do it @ all #lrnchat
08:56:07 pm britz: @sukay42 Yeah Susan! great to see u here! everyone…follow Susan…quality tweep 4 sure! #lrnchat
08:56:23 pm JaneBozarth: #lrnchat, skype chat, @shiftguru playing monty python quotes, and WWF with celebrity you've heard of. Glad no such thing as multitasking.
08:56:29 pm weisblatt: Q1: Objectives are usually so vague that you can feel free to interpet them any way that suits the work you are doing #lrnchat
08:56:31 pm TriciaRansom: Or leveraging…RT @LandDDave @britz: stealing this question for upcoming interviews were doing Design the target, then aim at it. #lrnchat
08:57:53 pm LaurenLK: I like the metaphor! Cool beans – war correspondent. RT @mequel: Q1) Embed yourself in the business like a war correspondent. LOL #lrnchat
08:57:57 pm LandDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *effective*? #lrnchat
08:58:11 pm stickylearning: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *effective*? #lrnchat
08:58:15 pm Trybarefoot: Tomoto?😉 RT @britz: @LandDDave tomato…tamoto….lets call the whole thing off #lrnchat
08:58:24 pm daviddlacroix: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *effective*? #lrnchat
08:58:30 pm gminks: RT @LandDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *effective*? #lrnchat
08:58:36 pm edwsonoma: but wait. isn’t articulating alignment an ID’s job? RT @JaneBozarth: Q1) Find 3 people give the same def of ‘alignment’. #lrnchat
08:58:37 pm tmiket: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *effective*? #Lrnchat
08:58:42 pm gminks: Q2) can people do the work #lrnchat
08:58:55 pm hjarche: Q2) your training is effective when you can’t keep people away, including managers #lrnchat
08:58:55 pm weisblatt: @lrnchat Q2) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *effective*? #lrnchat >>Ah, back to having clear objectives
08:59:00 pm chambo_online: Q2) Improved performance #lrnchat
08:59:02 pm sukay42: @britz ahhh thanks Mark! #lrnchat
08:59:09 pm Akevy613: @KoreenOlbrish I am not 100% sure of the question but objectives should be aligned with org mission statement. #lrnchat
08:59:12 pm tmiket: Q2 measure change in performance #Lrnchat
08:59:13 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *effective*? #lrnchat
08:59:18 pm shiftguru: @lrnchat Q2) Pick one: Time, Cost, Quality and focus on improving ONE area first. The build on it with the other two. #lrnchat
08:59:25 pm minutebio: RT @chambo_online: Q2) Improved performance #LRNCHAT
08:59:32 pm britz: Q1) objectives are in the metrics…seek the metrics that matter and you’ll find the answer …Ohm… #lrnchat
08:59:35 pm jaycross: RT @gminks: Q2) can people do the work | Are people doing the work? Action trumps knowledge
#lrnchat
08:59:42 pm midquel: RT @hjarche: Q2) your training is effective when you can’t keep people away, including managers #lrnchat
08:59:44 pm tmiket: @hjarche Does popular always mean effective? #Lrnchat
08:59:49 pm ryantracey: Q2) How do you ensure your learning solutions are effective? Analyse the performance stats (both short & long term) #lrnchat
08:59:51 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *effective*? #lrnchat
08:59:57 pm JaneBozarth: RT @hjarche: Q2) your training is effective when you cant keep people away, including managers #lrnchat
08:59:59 pm Trybarefoot: Q2) clear learning objective with evaluation process. #lrnchat
09:00:07 pm LandDDave: Q2) First define ‘effective’ by asking stakeholders what things look like after a successful program. What would be different? #lrnchat
09:00:09 pm daviddlacroix: RT @hjarche: Q2) your training is effective when you cant keep people away, including managers. #lrnchat
09:00:11 pm stickylearning: Q2 produce multiple drafts/prototypes & test them vs objectives with learners & stakeholders #lrnchat
09:00:11 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @britz: Q1) objectives are in the metrics…seek the metrics that matter and youll find the answer …Ohm… #lrnchat
09:00:19 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) What’s efffective? Performance, knowledge, attitude, attendance, test scores? I can spin anything…I am a consultant! #lrnchat
09:00:23 pm JaneBozarth: @hjarche And if you have to make it mandatory and force people to come, well, there’s your sign.. #lrnchat
09:00:31 pm ryantracey: I like that – RT @hjarche: Q2) your training is effective when you can’t keep people away, including managers #lrnchat
09:00:36 pm edwsonoma: @KoreenOlbrish true enough. But IMHO a mistake 2 presume they don’t know. Or that we know better. Our job 2 help orgs navigate this #lrnchat
09:00:38 pm stickylearning: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @hjarche: Q2) your training is effective when you cant keep people away, including managers #lrnchat
09:00:56 pm jaycross: RT @britz: Q1) …seek the metrics that matter | Too bad lots of the really importance stuff is immeasurable #lrnchat
09:00:57 pm tmiket: RT @daviddlacroix: RT @hjarche: Q2) your training is effective when you cant keep people away, including managers> People can actually USE what they learned.
09:01:15 pm Trybarefoot: *high five* RT @TriciaRansom: Q2) What’s efffective? I can spin anything…I am a consultant! #lrnchat
09:01:17 pm ryantracey: Amen – RT @LandDDave Q2) First define ‘effective’ by asking stakeholders what things look like after a successful program. #lrnchat
09:01:25 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q2. You will never know if your solutions are effective if you don’t set goals and measure against them. #lrnchat
09:01:30 pm Trybarefoot: RT @johnjambrose: The effectiveness of learning is not what sticks in their heads, but what shows in their actions. #lrnchat
09:01:46 pm shiftguru: @JaneBozarth raises excellent question about compliance training, though. #lrnchat
09:01:47 pm LandDDave: Q2) Don’t be married to a facilitator’s guide – be agile and flexible to the learner’s needs as they relate to the objectives. #lrnchat
09:01:57 pm minutebio: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q2. You will never know if your solutions are effective if you dont set goals and measure against them. #LRNCHAT
09:02:11 pm jaycross: RT @Trybarefoot RT @johnjambrose: The effectiveness of learning is not what sticks in their heads, but what shows in their actions. #lrnchat
09:02:23 pm TriciaRansom: Oh yeah, Clash of the Titans! One of the best worst movies ever made…successful cause we keep coming back. Why? #lrnchat
09:02:35 pm latelierdelisse: Q2) What must learners be able to DO at end of learning? How can this be measured? #lrnchat
09:02:37 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @johnjambrose: The effectiveness of learning is not what sticks in their heads, but what shows in their actions. #lrnchat
09:02:43 pm hjarche: @shiftguru engaging shmengaging – it can be really badly presented & still be seen as valuable if it’s effective & needed #lrnchat
09:02:45 pm stickylearning: Sounds like stickylearning to me! RT @johnjambrose Effectiveness of learning isn’t what sticks in heads, but what shows in actions #lrnchat
09:02:46 pm Akevy613: @Trybarefoot you also need a clear evaluation model with rubrics and benchmarks that can be measured #lrnchat
09:02:48 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q2. You will never know if your solutions are effective if you don’t set goals and measure against them. #lrnchat
09:02:49 pm Trybarefoot: Aaaah – TRUE facilitation! RT @LandDDave: Q2) Don‚Äôt be married to a facilitator‚Äôs guide…………… #lrnchat
09:02:52 pm everyselearning: @LandDDave greatest days of training are when the customer does not want to print the guides! Freedom to do what you do best! #lrnchat
09:02:57 pm kelly_smith01: Multitasking Peanuts Halloween is on. #lrnchat
09:02:58 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @ryantracey: Amen – RT @LandDDave Q2) First define ‘effective’ by asking stakeholders what things look like after a successful program. #lrnchat
09:03:07 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @LandDDave: Q2) Don’t be married to a facilitator’s guide – be agile and flexible to the learner’s needs as they relate to the objectives. #lrnchat
09:03:09 pm minutebio: RT @Trybarefoot RT @johnjambrose: The effectiveness of learning is not what sticks in their heads, but what shows in their actions. #LRNCHAT
09:03:30 pm sukay42: #lrnchat q2 define effective first… Then create authentic assessment and performance eval too
09:03:39 pm TriciaRansom: Q1 and Q2) If all agree a training is aligned to organizational goal, but those goals are wrong, is training successful? #lrnchat
09:03:53 pm shiftguru: @hjarche true…’tis in the eye of the beholder/learner. #lrnchat
09:04:12 pm everyselearning: Well said! RT @johnjambrose: The effectiveness of learning is not what sticks in their heads, but what shows in their actions. #lrnchat
09:04:30 pm edwsonoma: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q2. U will never know if your solutions r effective if u don’t set goals and measure against. #lrnchat
09:04:39 pm jaycross: RT @Akevy613: @Trybarefoot clear evaluation model w/ rubrics & benchmarks | Other people own that yardstick. Mgt defines success #lrnchat
09:04:50 pm ThomasStone: Q2) One approach is to identify the critical mistakes people make in their jobs, and then measure to see if they are making fewer. #lrnchat
09:05:03 pm ryantracey: Nice – RT @johnjambrose The effectiveness of learning is not what sticks in their heads, but what shows in their actions. #lrnchat
09:05:04 pm stickylearning: RT @edwsonoma RT @KoreenOlbrish Q2 U will never know if your solutions r effective if u don’t set goals and measure against #lrnchat
09:05:08 pm mequel: @weisblatt Q2) and also back to measurement of impact. Did training change the outcome. How? Can it be done better mo’ efficiently #lrnchat
09:05:14 pm latelierdelisse: @TriciaRansom Oh, yes, the old Clash of the Titans just went on over here.Son interested, I’m not able to keep a straight face. #lrnchat
09:05:31 pm gminks: RT @ThomasStone: Q2) id the critical mistakes people make in their jobs, and then measure to see if they are making fewer. #lrnchat
09:05:36 pm jaycross: RT @ThomasStone: Q2) identify the critical mistakes people make in their jobs, and then measure to see if they are making fewer. #lrnchat
09:05:38 pm chambo_online: @TriciaRansom The tree does still make a sound in the forest when it falls…lol. #lrnchat
09:05:49 pm sillym0nkey: tweeting tweeting tweeting with lrnchat #lrnchat
09:06:01 pm daviddlacroix: Q2: It’s starting to sound like we’re looking at this very much from the org’s p.o.v. I try to hear the learner, too. #lrnchat
09:06:03 pm TriciaRansom: @latelierdelisse The best AWFUL special effects ever! #lrnchat
09:06:31 pm TriciaRansom: @chambo_online Loving the pic #lrnchat
09:06:32 pm britz: Q2) your solutions are effective if learners are ultimately more effective & efficient at their jobs #lrnchat
09:06:33 pm Trybarefoot: Absoluteluy! RT @Akevy613: @Trybarefoot you also need a clear evaluation model with rubrics and benchmarks that can be measured #lrnchat
09:06:33 pm LandDDave: RT @ThomasStone: Q2) identify the critical mistakes people make in their jobs, and then measure to see if they are making fewer. #lrnchat
09:06:42 pm latelierdelisse: Q2) Actions must be followed up on and measured. #lrnchat
09:06:45 pm JaneBozarth: q2 For one of my programs can directly trace better job performance to job promotions. So there. #lrnchat
09:06:48 pm sukay42: Q2 also… If possible compare those w/o training yet w/ those who have completed and ask learners how their behaviors have changed #lrnchat
09:07:09 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @latelierdelisse: Q2) What must learners be able to DO at end of learning? How can this be measured? #lrnchat
09:07:16 pm TriciaRansom: @daviddlacroix has a great point – successful for the learner might not be successful for mngtment/mucketie mucks #lrnchat
09:07:29 pm mbr1online: Hi all, joining late Q2) One way to look at effectiveness is speed to proficiency-Shortening the time is takes to get up to speed. #lrnchat
09:07:53 pm shiftguru: @JaneBozarth I think that’s pronounced “Nirvana” #lrnchat
09:07:55 pm daviddlacroix: @TriciaRansom Thanks, Tricia! #lrnchat
09:08:17 pm TriciaRansom: Q0) Just learned hubby has never seen Clash of the Titans! Is that possible? #lrnchat
09:08:28 pm JaneBozarth: but for other stuff it’s just compliance and there is no performance expectation. And it isn’t ‘training’. But, well, you know. #lrnchat
09:08:37 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @sukay42: Q2 also… If possible compare those w/o training yet w/ those who have completed and ask learners how their behaviors have changed #lrnchat
09:08:42 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @JaneBozarth: q2 For one of my programs can directly trace better job performance to job promotions. So there. #lrnchat
09:08:59 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @britz: Q2) your solutions are effective if learners are ultimately more effective & efficient at their jobs #lrnchat
09:09:02 pm latelierdelisse: @TriciaRansom I have never seen it either. #lrnchat
09:09:16 pm weisblatt: What is the ROI of measuring ROI? #lrnchat
09:09:21 pm lrnchat: Q3) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *efficient*? #lrnchat
09:09:31 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) Are we talking about training, learning, communication, mentoring, or everything? #lrnchat
09:09:35 pm hjarche: Interview graduate & supervisor 6 mos later – ask supv if the job/task can be done & ask grad if it was learned during training #lrnchat
09:09:45 pm daviddlacroix: RT @TriciaRansom successful for the learner might not be successful for mngtment/mucketie mucks || Alignment is a two-way street. #lrnchat
09:09:47 pm chambo_online: @TriciaRansom – What? No Harry H in a toga? A vital part of the 70s is missing from his youth. #lrnchat
09:09:51 pm LandDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *efficient*? #lrnchat
09:09:56 pm JaneBozarth: @dawnjmahoney but also see my tweet after that one #lrnchat
09:10:13 pm kellygarber: @nathanand instead of building assessment from content – align assessment to objectives then build content to support #lrnchat
09:10:19 pm daviddlacroix: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *efficient*? #lrnchat
09:10:23 pm weisblatt: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *efficient*? #lrnchat
09:10:23 pm jaycross: Q3) Who cares about efficiency when you’re achieving effectiveness?
#lrnchat
09:10:27 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *efficient*? #lrnchat
09:10:30 pm everyselearning: Q3) ‘efficient’…I can think of a couple of hundred definitions of efficient. #lrnchat
09:10:40 pm stickylearning: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *efficient*? #lrnchat
09:10:48 pm Trybarefoot: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *efficient*? #lrnchat
09:10:59 pm TriciaRansom: @chambo_online And that silly owl…Babo? #lrnchat
09:11:13 pm hjarche: efficiency? give people options to your training & see what happens #lrnchat
09:11:15 pm JaneBozarth: @weisblatt See receptionist gets phone courtesy training, later that day takes $1M phone order. That’s 1000% ROI #lrnchat
09:11:20 pm sillym0nkey: RT @everyselearning: Q3) ‘efficient’…I can think of a couple of hundred definitions of efficient. #lrnchat
09:11:21 pm jaycross: Q3) Ensure? Stuff happens. Real life lacks certainty. C’est la vie. #lrnchat
09:11:22 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *efficient*? #lrnchat
09:11:40 pm Trybarefoot: I KNOW – it made me TWITCH! RT @everyselearning: Q3) ‘efficient’…I can think of a couple of hundred definitions of efficient. #lrnchat
09:11:40 pm JaneBozarth: I think some of these are trick questions. #lrnchat
09:11:44 pm LaurenLK: Private: yes. Public: not so much. RT @jaycross: Q3) Who cares about efficiency when you’re achieving effectiveness?
#lrnchat
09:11:48 pm vivmcw: What’s efficiency got to do with learning? RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *efficient*? #lrnchat
09:11:53 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) Focus on need-to-do rather than “nice-to-know” #lrnchat
09:11:57 pm LandDDave: Q3) Take ILT and move it to the bottom of your list of options. Then right ‘Last Resort’ next to it. #lrnchat
09:12:08 pm sillym0nkey: RT @JaneBozarth: @weisblatt See receptionist gets phone courtesy training, later that day takes $1M phone order. That’s 1000% ROI #lrnchat
09:12:16 pm mequel: @lrnchat It’s saving you from perpetuating the costly. It should only be done on the most important and impactful projects #ROI #lrnchat
09:12:16 pm midquel: RT @kellygarber: @nathanand instead of building assessment from content – align assessment to objectives then build content to support #lrnchat
09:12:17 pm audioswhite: Q2) simple metrics and of course if those using your training solution request that you/org develop more🙂 #lrnchat
09:12:28 pm kellygarber: RT @JaneBozarth: @weisblatt receptionist gets phone courtesy trning, later that day takes $1M phone order. Thats 1000% ROI (drink) #lrnchat
09:12:29 pm britz: RT @jaycross: Q3) Who cares abt efficiency when ur achieving effectiveness? /Yes in the end productivity gains out weigh investment #lrnchat
09:12:29 pm Trybarefoot:🙂 RT @JaneBozarth: I think some of these are trick questions. #lrnchat
09:12:32 pm daviddlacroix: RT @JaneBozarth: I think some of these are trick questions. || Shocked! 🙂 #lrnchat
09:12:40 pm latelierdelisse: Q3) I’m a bit dubious on this efficiency thing. #lrnchat
09:12:41 pm jaycross: RT @TriciaRansom: Q3) Focus on need-to-do rather than “nice-to-know” #lrnchat
09:12:45 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q2. it likely takes 9 years, More Backs Breaking than u’d like to admit & some eXtreme measures to prove efficiency #dl10arg #lrnchat
09:12:57 pm ThomasStone: Oh My. I hope he didn’t already have two strikes. RT @TriciaRansom: Q0) Just learned hubby has never seen Clash of the Titans! #lrnchat
09:12:57 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) and I’m defining efficient as “focused rather than throw in everything since we’ve got them all together…” #lrnchat
09:12:59 pm audioswhite: RT @JaneBozarth: I think some of these are trick questions. #lrnchat
09:13:06 pm LaurenLK: LOL *5 RT @JaneBozarth: I think some of these are trick questions. #lrnchat
09:13:06 pm stickylearning: Q3 Effective learning solutions should by nature also be efficient! #lrnchat
09:13:07 pm kelly_smith01: RT @jaycross: RT @TriciaRansom: Q3) Focus on need-to-do rather than “nice-to-know” #lrnchat
09:13:08 pm everyselearning: I agree! RT @JaneBozarth: I think some of these are trick questions. || Shocked!🙂 #lrnchat
09:13:30 pm LandDDave: The OCD in me needs to acknowledge that I misused ‘right’ instead of ‘write’ in that last tweet. #lrnchat
09:13:32 pm latelierdelisse: RT @TriciaRansom: Q3) Focus on need-to-do rather than “nice-to-know” Yes!
#lrnchat
09:13:38 pm sukay42: Q3. Efficient… Hmmm.. Seems like an eye of the beholder kind of thing… #lrnchat
09:13:40 pm chambo_online: Q3) Be a reflective practictioner…Can this be done better? Easier? Quicker? More effectively? Etc., If yes, implement revisions #lrnchat
09:13:51 pm bschlenker: #lrnchat Sorry I’m late. Was playing shuttle service for the kids. Wazzup!!!
09:14:02 pm minutebio: Q3) Increase efficiency 86% by taking it off the LMS #LRNCHAT
09:14:02 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q3. wait, we need to prove we’re both effective & efficient? Isn’t that called ROI? #drink #lrnchat
09:14:05 pm TriciaRansom: @ThomasStone Regardless he’s a keeper…I just need to focus on our “objectives” of experiencing bad movies! #lrnchat
09:14:05 pm ryantracey: Agreed, but without wearing blinkers – RT @TriciaRansom Q3) Focus on need-to-do rather than “nice-to-know” #lrnchat
09:14:06 pm ThomasStone: Why… facts conveyed per minute, of course!😉 RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *efficient*? #lrnchat
09:14:18 pm shiftguru: @JaneBozarth Probably, but definitely thought-provoking #lrnchat
09:14:26 pm daviddlacroix: Efficient = the right balance between friction and flow. #lrnchat
09:14:38 pm mequel: @jaycross Q3) The beancounters and CEO’s care about the bottom line and we must to if we are to be taken seriously as biz partners #lrnchat
09:14:40 pm jaycross: @bschlenker Just talking about DevLearn. You didn’t miss much.🙂
#lrnchat
09:14:48 pm everyselearning: @bschlenker talking about efficiency. What immediately comes to mind? #lrnchat
09:14:51 pm Quinnovator: @chambo_online RO? Seize the day; yes, *you* can edit the #lrnchat drinking game (social media, FTW) http://bit.ly/15pp1
09:14:53 pm gminks: RT @minutebio: Q3) Increase efficiency 86% by taking it off the LMS <– is that guaranteed? #lrnchat
09:14:57 pm britz: RT @JaneBozarth: I think some of these are trick questions. / but of course! lrnchat should leave you pondering! #lrnchat
09:14:59 pm weisblatt: Q3: Efficiency for the learner? Was the effort worth the learning? The world may never know #lrnchat
09:15:06 pm ThomasStone: Good point… within some limits of course. RT @jaycross: Q3) Who cares about efficiency when you're achieving effectiveness? #lrnchat
09:15:09 pm TriciaRansom: @ryantracey True, great point. Now I have to come up with a catchy phrase that incorporates blinkers #lrnchat
09:15:17 pm JaneBozarth: Wait, what? I thought you just multiplied number of attendees X hours of class. ? #lrnchat
09:15:23 pm kellygarber: Q3) when did we assume efficiency is an objective?
#lrnchat
09:15:25 pm minutebio: RT @gminks: RT @minutebio: Q3) Increase efficiency 86% by taking it off the LMS <– is that guaranteed? | Or your $ back! #LRNCHAT
09:15:27 pm shiftguru: @lrnchat Q3) "efficiency" at what stage of the development cycle, though? #lrnchat
09:15:29 pm everyselearning: Really?? Glad to hear since I could not go..RT @bschlenker Just talking about DevLearn. You didn't miss much.🙂 #lrnchat
09:15:30 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) Is efficient equal to time or equal to money. Ooops forgot time does equal money. #lrnchat
09:15:43 pm sukay42: Q3 efficiency is different for each learner and topic… If your training can flex to this then it is efficient. #lrnchat
09:15:50 pm Trybarefoot: STOP! RT @LandDDave: The OCD in me needs to acknowledge that I misused 'right' instead of 'write' in that last tweet. #lrnchat
09:15:51 pm allonsdanser: Sorry. what was Q3? #lrnchat I'm multitasking.
09:16:03 pm gminks: the efficiency thing makes me nuts. You have to invest in your ppl, pay now or pay later! #lrnchat
09:16:08 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) A 5 day ILT course becomes "efficient" if it provides value to the learner and their manager. #lrnchat
09:16:22 pm daviddlacroix: And calculate f(coffee) RT @JaneBozarth: Wait, what? I thought you just multiplied number of attendees X hours of class? #lrnchat
09:16:23 pm jaycross: RT @mequel beancounters and CEOs care about the bottom line. | I care about the bottom line, too. More than about efficiency. #lrnchat
09:16:27 pm minutebio: RT @gminks: the efficiency thing makes me nuts. You have to invest in your ppl, pay now or pay later! #LRNCHAT
09:16:29 pm ryantracey: Q3) I think self-directed learning can be the most efficient of all. #lrnchat
09:16:29 pm LandDDave: Q3) Efficient or Common Sense? Don't design a learning solution if it's a policy, procedure, or selection problem. #lrnchat
09:16:36 pm Quinnovator: re: Q3, the point is to be efficient with learner's time. Don't waste it! #lrnchat
09:17:04 pm JaneBozarth: We have new web conf product. IT says it is a success b/c so far there have been SIX THOUSAND meetings. #lrnchat
09:17:09 pm gminks: RT @ryantracey: Q3) I think self-directed learning can be the most efficient of all <– depends, will it work w novices? #lrnchat
09:17:23 pm daviddlacroix: RT @Quinnovator re: Q3, the point is to be efficient with learners time. Dont waste it! || Drinking to that one! #lrnchat
09:17:29 pm chambo_online: @daviddlacroix @janebozarth and also f(coffee)-y(bathroombreaks) #lrnchat
09:17:32 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) So I guess we need to define "value", "efficient", "objectives", "alignment", and "purpose" for each training we create, right? #lrnchat
09:17:33 pm minutebio: RT @Quinnovator: re: Q3, the point is to be efficient with learners time. Dont waste it! | Then its being succinct & relevant #LRNCHAT
09:17:35 pm LaurenLK: @lrnchat @jaycross Well here it is, from Merrill: learning should be effective, efficient, appealing. wowzer, what an ideal #lrnchat
09:17:36 pm mequel: @TriciaRansom Q3) If that same class could be 2 days and accomplish the same outcomes…that would increase efficiency. Agree? #lrnchat
09:17:44 pm anicole87: RT @Quinnovator: re: Q3, the point is to be efficient with learners time. Dont waste it! #Lrnchat
09:18:03 pm latelierdelisse: Q3) Now efficiency for the learner, I can buy into. #lrnchat
09:18:04 pm allonsdanser: Q3) #lrnchat That's the think edge of the wedge! Effective can easily become sluggard w/out an eye on efficiency.
09:18:08 pm Trybarefoot: Brain hurts. *sip the tea* Now back to #lrnchat
09:18:15 pm weisblatt: Q3: We eed to remember that every minute spent in learning is a minute off the line, unless you can integrate learning with work #lrnchat
09:18:23 pm sillym0nkey: RT @Quinnovator: re: Q3, the point is to be efficient with learner's time Don't waste it! #lrnchat Yes spend as much time as needed
09:18:45 pm daviddlacroix: RT @chambo_online: @daviddlacroix @janebozarth and also f(coffee)-y(bathroombreaks) || Thank you, zombie Lisa. #lrnchat
09:18:46 pm LaurenLK: RT @minutebio: RT @gminks: the efficiency thing makes me nuts. You have to invest in your ppl, pay now or pay later! #LRNCHAT
09:18:49 pm anicole87: @JaneBozarth sometimes (ok most times) I laugh out loud at your tweets. #Lrnchat
09:18:58 pm bschlenker: @everyselearning Teaching people how to learn and then act on that learning quickly – first thought re: efficiency #lrnchat
09:18:59 pm ryantracey: @gminks No, I don't think so. Directed, structured learning still has it's place! #lrnchat
09:19:08 pm TriciaRansom: @mequel I agree. My point was that efficiency isn't tied to time, but to outcomes and perceptions. #lrnchat
09:19:09 pm jaycross: RT @LaurenLK: @lrnchat @jaycross Merrill: learning should be effective, efficient, appealing. | Merrill says lots I don't buy into. #lrnchat
09:19:25 pm LandDDave: Q3) Don't design a Ferrari when a Honda Civic accomplishes the same objective. #lrnchat
09:19:42 pm Cris2B: @ryantracey Seems to me that's key. Self-directed, autonomous learners have the kind of intrinsic motivation that drives success #lrnchat
09:20:06 pm britz: RT @LandDDave: Q3) Dont design a Ferrari when a Honda Civic accomplishes the same objective. #lrnchat
09:20:07 pm mbr1online: Q3 Want efficiency? Just shorten the training time (and don't count the time and money it takes to figure it out on the job). #lrnchat
09:20:11 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q3. being efficient may mean you need to embrace new technologies and new design strategies. #justsayin #lrnchat
09:20:19 pm suifaijohnmak: RT @jaycross: RT @ThomasStone: Q2) identify the critical mistakes people make in their jobs, and then measure to see if they are making fewer. #lrnchat
09:20:21 pm mequel: @jaycross Agreed, but efficiency plays a large part in that. #lrnchat
09:20:27 pm odguru: RT @JaneBozarth: We have new web conf product. IT says it is a success b/c so far there have been SIX THOUSAND meetings. #lrnchat
09:20:29 pm latelierdelisse: RT @gminks: the efficiency thing makes me nuts. You have to invest in your ppl, pay now or pay later! #lrnchat
09:20:30 pm Trybarefoot: One foot in #lrnchat – one foot in #RNchat. Bit of a balancing act tonite!
09:20:38 pm gminks: @ryantracey yep, I think you need directed learning to get the vocabulary and basics to be a good self-directed learner #lrnchat
09:20:39 pm Quinnovator: @chambo_online sorry, if ROI isn't there, it should be, definitely a drinking offense! #lrnchat
09:20:44 pm mequel: @Q3) http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/efficiency #lrnchat
09:20:48 pm JaneBozarth: q3 being efficient may mean (wo)man-ing up and saying, "That's not a training problem." #lrnchat
09:20:53 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) Old quote from a client saying "I wanted folks to learn to change a light bulb. You trained how to create electrical circuitry" #lrnchat
09:21:00 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: q3 being efficient may mean (wo)man-ing up and saying, "That's not a training problem." #lrnchat
09:21:18 pm lrnchat: Q4) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *engaging*? #lrnchat
09:21:18 pm TriciaRansom: Too true!!! RT @JaneBozarth: q3 being efficient may mean (wo)man-ing up and saying, "That's not a training problem." #lrnchat
09:21:24 pm mbr1online: RT @Quinnovator: re: Q3, the point is to be efficient with learner's time. Don't waste it! #lrnchat- Yes, respect for the learner!
09:21:26 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *engaging*? #lrnchat
09:21:34 pm Quinnovator: Q4) um, er, wrote a book on that😉 http://www.engaginglearning.com #lrnchat
09:21:35 pm minutebio: RT @JaneBozarth: q3 being efficient may mean (wo)man-ing up and saying, "Thats not a training problem." #LRNCHAT
09:21:42 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *engaging*? #lrnchat
09:21:43 pm Trybarefoot: Nice! RT @JaneBozarth: q3 being efficient may mean (wo)man-ing up and saying, "That's not a training problem." #lrnchat
09:21:45 pm daviddlacroix: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *engaging*? #lrnchat
09:21:47 pm everyselearning: OK I'll buy that. RT @bschlenker Teaching people how to learn and then act on that learning quickly – first thought re: efficiency #lrnchat
09:21:48 pm mequel: @TriciaRansom Agreed. #lrnchat
09:21:48 pm gminks: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *engaging*? #lrnchat
09:21:51 pm jaycross: Q3) In this age of respect for learning, are there any *training* problems left?
#lrnchat
09:21:54 pm ryantracey: RT @Cris2B Seems to me that's key. Self-directed, autonomous learners have the kind of intrinsic motivation that drives success #lrnchat
09:22:01 pm jaycross: Q4) Engagement rings. #lrnchat
09:22:06 pm stickylearning: Q3 being efficient is using the best tool for the job, not slapping any old tool together to 'save' time! #lrnchat
09:22:11 pm anicole87: Donta ask 4 a car when a bike is all u need RT@LandDDave: Q3) Dont design a Ferrari when a Honda Civic accomplishes the same obj #Lrnchat
09:22:11 pm kellygarber: Q3) learning through an inefficient process can teach us efficiency … effectively. #lrnchat
09:22:30 pm jaycross: RT @gminks: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *engaging*? #lrnchat
09:22:31 pm JaneBozarth: Q4. Wait lists. #lrnchat
09:22:32 pm gminks: RT @jaycross: Q4) Engagement rings. <+1 ! #lrnchat
09:22:41 pm Trybarefoot: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *engaging*? #lrnchat
09:22:44 pm chambo_online: Q4)Engaging is in the eye of the engaged or the zombie, as the case may be. #lrnchat
09:22:44 pm mequel: RT @JaneBozarth: q3 being efficient may mean (wo)man-ing up and saying, "That's not a training problem." #lrnchat
09:22:45 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *engaging*? #lrnchat
09:22:53 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q4. To ensure something is engaging, ask yourself: is this a way I would be happy to learn this? #lrnchat
09:22:58 pm gminks: RT @anicole87: RT@LandDDave: just hire a driver😉 #lrnchat
09:22:59 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *efficient*? #lrnchat
09:23:04 pm sillym0nkey: q4) build in enough of the correct interactions #lrnchat
09:23:10 pm JaneBozarth: @bernierjohn Here to serve. #lrnchat
09:23:13 pm kellygarber: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *engaging*? #lrnchat
09:23:15 pm TriciaRansom: RT @chambo_online: Q4)Engaging is in the eye of the engaged or the zombie, as the case may be. #lrnchat
09:23:22 pm TrDev: Workplace Violence Training Won't Wait: As a trainer, your job is to tailor your safety tips to the… http://dlvr.it/7hnfQ #trdev #lrnchat
09:23:24 pm weisblatt: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *engaging*? #lrnchat
09:23:25 pm gminks: Q4) does it help the audience fill an information need #lrnchat
09:23:26 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q4. Design for context, not just content. #lrnchat
09:23:27 pm minutebio: Q4) for me ARCS model helps (Attn, relevance, confidence, satisfaction). Some humor and cool animation helps 2 #LRNCHAT
09:23:42 pm anicole87: Wow! Brillant! RT @JaneBozarth: q3 being efficient may mean (wo)man-ing up and saying, "Thats not a training problem." #Lrnchat
09:23:46 pm weisblatt: Q4: Is efficient and engaging a conflict of interests? #lrnchat
09:23:50 pm Quinnovator: Q4) ensure it's meaningful to the learner, has appropriate challenge, isn't predictable #lrnchat
09:23:52 pm chambo_online: Q4) Or to put it another way…just ask the zombies in the back of the room. Are you engaged? #lrnchat
09:23:54 pm Trybarefoot: Q4) design learning solutions based on adult learning principles – respecting diversity of learning styles. #lrnchat
09:23:58 pm LandDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *engaging*? #lrnchat
09:24:02 pm odguru: Dropping in late. 1 element of efficiency def comes from Senge's notion of planning & process discussion as a form of org learning. #lrnchat
09:24:03 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *engaging*? #lrnchat
09:24:03 pm Quinnovator: RT @weisblatt: Q4: Is efficient and engaging a conflict of interests? #lrnchat Context is king/queen #lrnchat
09:25:12 pm gminks: Then try to incorporate the “off book” stuff into the training. #lrnchat
09:25:20 pm Trybarefoot: Though YOUR learning style may NOT be THEIRS! RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q4. ask yourself: is this a way I would be happy to learn this? #lrnchat
09:25:20 pm ryantracey: RT @gminks yep, I think you need directed learning to get the vocabulary and basics to be a good self-directed learner #lrnchat
09:25:26 pm weisblatt: Q4: Engaging is when every click leads you to something you need to know #lrnchat
09:25:30 pm britz: Q4) address WIIFM usually u can’t go wrong #lrnchat
09:25:37 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) Know your organization’s culture! What’s engaging for one group could be silly and juvenile for another #lrnchat
09:25:38 pm jaycross: RT @mequel: Q4) How do you ensure your learning solutions are *engaging*? Personal Relevance & Engaging Media. #lrnchat
09:25:40 pm minutebio: RT @everyselearning: @minutebio ARCS, is that any relation to ADDIE? Ha ha I win! *gulp!* | I c your ADDIE & raise u a Gagne #LRNCHAT
09:25:53 pm everyselearning: RT @latelierdelisse Please, not too much repitition. Don’t infantalize the learner! #lrnchat
09:25:59 pm gminks: RT @everyselearning: @minutebio ARCS, is that any relation to ADDIE? <- both from FSU (who is beating NCState right now yay!!) #lrnchat
09:26:02 pm LandDDave: Q3) Clearly define ‘need-to-know’ and ‘nice-to-know’ and then add ‘niceties’ based on how efficient you need to be. #lrnchat
09:26:04 pm stickylearning: RT @Quinnovator: Q4) design for it: set engagement metrics (yes, subjective), then test and refine! #lrnchat
09:26:10 pm midquel: RT @minutebio: Q4) Include realistic scenarios and problems to solve and learn from #LRNCHAT
09:26:11 pm gminks: HA I worked the game into #lrnchat
09:26:12 pm KoreenOlbrish: @Trybarefoot i don't believe in learning styles😉 #lrnchat
09:26:16 pm minutebio: RT @weisblatt: Q4: Engaging is when every click leads you to something you need to know | & want 2 know🙂 #LRNCHAT
09:26:19 pm janet_frg: RT @britz: Q4) address WIIFM usually u can't go wrong #lrnchat << you were reading my mind🙂
09:26:29 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) Ask front-line folks what their pain points are and then address them. Don't always rely on management's perceptions. #lrnchat
09:26:38 pm sillym0nkey: q4) courses must b built w/ passion -gr8 interaction and care about the learner – backbone to stand up to "naysayer courseowners" #lrnchat
09:26:55 pm anicole87: some1 told me reptition was adult learning, i said only if on purpose..RT @latelierdelisse: Q4) Please, not too much repitition. #Lrnchat
09:27:05 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) Make 'em think and apply and process and integrate. #lrnchat
09:27:07 pm gminks: RT @Quinnovator: Q4) um, er, wrote a book on that😉 http://www.engaginglearning.com #lrnchat
09:27:11 pm mbr1online: Yes! RT @minutebio: Q4) Include realistic scenarios and problems to solve and learn from #LRNCHAT
09:27:16 pm Trybarefoot: Q4) "Make 'em laugh!" – use humour appropriately! #lrnchat
09:27:16 pm JaneBozarth: RT @Quinnovator Q4) um, er, wrote a book on that😉 http://www.engaginglearning.com #lrnchat
#lrnchat
09:27:38 pm chambo_online: RT @Quinnovator: Q4) um, er, wrote a book on that😉 http://www.engaginglearning.com #lrnchat
09:27:39 pm LandDDave: Q4) If you often deal with the same learners, throw in some surprises. Don’t let them know what to expect next. #lrnchat
09:27:42 pm LaurenLK: Nor should you. WTG RT @KoreenOlbrish: @Trybarefoot i don't believe in learning styles😉 #lrnchat
09:27:42 pm minutebio: RT @sillym0nkey: courses b built w/ passion -gr8 interaction & care about learner – backbone to stand up to "naysayer courseowners" #LRNCHAT
09:27:48 pm audioswhite: Q4) wait, isn't there a formula for this? #lrnchat
09:27:49 pm stickylearning: Q4 Engage learners when they have a need for the skill/knowledge #lrnchat
09:27:49 pm britz: RT @janet_frg: RT @britz: Q4) address WIIFM usually u cant go wrong #lrnchat << you were reading my mind/ i "borrowed" it🙂 #lrnchat
09:27:51 pm sillym0nkey: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @Quinnovator Q4) um, er, wrote a book on that😉 http://www.engaginglearning.com #lrnchat #lrnchat
09:27:54 pm ThomasStone: Q4) Don't create learning content/experiences that you wouldn't take yourself. #lrnchat
09:27:56 pm jsuzcampos: Q4) Ensuring that learning is engaging and relevant? I'm totally into learning through storytelling right now. #lrnchat
09:27:57 pm kellygarber: Q4 – if the learner is motivated to learn (needs to know) and the trning provides what they need to know-the learner is engaged. #lrnchat
09:28:02 pm minutebio: RT @Trybarefoot: Q4) "Make em laugh!" – use humour appropriately! | Here, here #LRNCHAT
09:28:08 pm JaneBozarth: Evil Jane says: Tell them they can't take the training. Behold the power of "You can't have that." #lrnchat
09:28:17 pm trappc: @sillym0onkey I like that design with passion. #lrnchat
09:28:22 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) For me, the most engaging is the most realistic. At the very least give me a hook to hang new knowledge on…and w/plain words #lrnchat
09:28:23 pm shiftguru: @Trybarefoot Yes, but very challenging with multicultural audiences. #lrnchat
09:28:24 pm sillym0nkey: YES!!! RT @ThomasStone: Q4) Don't create learning content/experiences that you wouldn't take yourself. #lrnchat
09:28:46 pm TriciaRansom: RT @JaneBozarth: Evil Jane says: Tell them they can't take the training. Behold the power of "You can't have that." #lrnchat
09:28:55 pm chambo_online: @kellygarber disagree…I might have to know stuff…but poor design can fight my engagement. #lrnchat
09:29:19 pm Trybarefoot: At least your honest about it……….! RT @KoreenOlbrish: @Trybarefoot i don't believe in learning styles😉 #lrnchat
09:29:27 pm gminks: make sure learning aligns to job roles – if they are away from their job, make it worth the time away! #lrnchat
09:29:34 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) It's engaging if it shows realistic/concrete and "efficient" way to solve immediate problems they are experiencing. #lrnchat
09:29:40 pm sillym0nkey: @trappc – Yes!! if you love creating it – they will probably love taking it #lrnchat
09:29:50 pm LandDDave: Q4) no different than my 2 year old with blocks. I put them in front of him, let him explore, and ensure he doesn’t hurt himself. #lrnchat
09:29:52 pm Trybarefoot: RT @TriciaRansom: Q4) Make 'em think and apply and process and integrate. #lrnchat
09:29:58 pm mbr1online: Q4) Engage learners by creating an ever more challenging set of teachable moments. #lrnchat
09:30:21 pm mequel: @allonsdanser LOL! #lrnchat the drinking game?
09:30:37 pm gminks: RT @Trybarefoot: RT @TriciaRansom: Q4) Make em think and apply and process and integrate. #lrnchat
09:30:41 pm audioswhite: Q0) btw I learned that a dry wall saw is a killer tool for carving pumpkins #lrnchat
09:30:55 pm ThomasStone: Agreed, and do so frequently, e.g., all levels like course, lesson, topic RT @britz: Q4) address WIIFM usually u can't go wrong #lrnchat
09:31:02 pm LandDDave: Q4) reminding learners why they should care always helps. #lrnchat
09:31:03 pm Cris2B: @sillym0nkey good to see words like passion in a conversation dominated by efficiency and effectiveness #lrnchat
09:31:05 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) Never train on something "you might maybe see in a few months or so. This is good to know anyway, just in case…" #lrnchat
09:31:09 pm latelierdelisse: @kellygarber Learner needs to know lots of things they don't want to sit thru. Engagement not guaranteed #lrnchat
09:31:20 pm kellygarber: @chambo_online granted… but poor design doesn't provide what the learner needs to know #lrnchat
09:31:30 pm JaneBozarth: RT @LandDDave: Q4) reminding learners why they should care always helps. #lrnchat
09:31:39 pm minutebio: Q4) Design w/out Next buttons and u are sure to increase the level of interactivity and engagement. #LRNCHAT
09:31:42 pm mequel: RT @gminks: Q1 be embedded in the business – be there as they build the product/service #lrnchat
09:31:52 pm Trybarefoot: So true – I do a lot w/ First Nations grps. RT @shiftguru: @Trybarefoot Yes, but very challenging with multicultural audiences. #lrnchat
09:32:11 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) If its something they need to know right now, they'll be engaged. Usually. Hopefully. #lrnchat
09:32:14 pm odguru: Q4) Peter Block's book http://alturl.com/3wwuz advises 2 dispense with needs assessment & start thinking about gifts & recipients. #lrnchat
09:32:14 pm mequel: RT @midquel: Q0) I learned about online resources for creating comics, like Pixton; saw examples of use in grad ed- http://tinyurl.com/2fowxcg #lrnchat
09:32:30 pm LandDDave: Q4) Engage learners' managers first. #lrnchat
09:32:36 pm mequel: RT @JaneBozarth: I learned that a group of "distance educators" will have to be sold on the idea of a virtual conference instead of F2F. #shootme #lrnchat
09:32:50 pm sparkandco: RT @jaycross: RT @ThomasStone: Q2) identify critical mistakes ppl make in their jobs, & then measure 2 C if they R making fewer. #lrnchat
09:32:58 pm minutebio: RT @LandDDave: Q4) Engage learners managers first. #LRNCHAT
09:33:14 pm gminks: RT @Trybarefoot: @shiftguru: @Trybarefoot Yes, but very challenging with multicultural audiences time learning may be best use of their time
09:37:02 pm everyselearning: RT @TriciaRansom: Q5) Evaluate? Why would I do that? If they hate it, then Im out of a job…duh! #lrnchat
09:37:08 pm odguru: @KoreenOlbrish Yes – a fraught notion. Premise: knowing needs not enough must also, to engage, know gifts & where 2 use them. #lrnchat
09:37:23 pm ThomasStone: Q5) As I said earlier, ceteris paribus, are critical mistakes you are targeting reduced after the learning/training initiative? #lrnchat
09:37:30 pm britz: gotta run … thx for a great time Lrnchatters! #lrnchat
09:37:44 pm LandDDave: Q4) Fun on it’s own is just that – fun. Fun plus Relevance is engaging. #lrnchat
09:37:45 pm weisblatt: Q5: Is the person who paid for the learning to take place happy? #lrnchat
09:37:50 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @gminks: q5) if you didnt like the idea of needs assessments up front….you dont like q5 probably #lrnchat
09:37:54 pm kellygarber: RT @shiftguru: @gminks what we think is funny may not be funny to others, <- also, humor is tough to localize #lrnchat
09:37:56 pm TriciaRansom: Q5) I once had a manager who evaluated by time spent on WBTs and number of backsides in the seats. #lrnchat
09:38:04 pm RThumor: RT @kellygarber rt @shiftguru: @gminks what we think is funny may not be funny to others, <- also, humor is tough to localize #lrnchat
09:38:20 pm LandDDave: RT @britz: gotta run … thx for a great time Lrnchatters! Q5) I once had a manager who evaluated by time spent on WBTs and number of backsides in the seats. #lrnchat
09:40:09 pm JaneBozarth: Y’all know the Stufflebeam model of evaluation, right? Well, that… #lrnchat
09:40:10 pm LandDDave: Q5) I look forward to evaluting during breaks by reviewing the Twitter hashtag feed. #lrnchat
09:40:22 pm trappc: RT @minutebio: Q5) So often the informal evalauation and anecdotal evidence gets more cred from staff than the formal eval report #lrnchat
09:40:32 pm latelierdelisse: Q5) Evaluations MUST include comments. It’s the only way we IDs really learn anything about our work. #lrnchat
09:41:00 pm sillym0nkey: RT @latelierdelisse: Q5) Evaluations MUST include comments. It’s the only way we IDs really learn anything about our work. #lrnchat
09:41:05 pm TriciaRansom: Q5) I like it when I overhear/see a learner passing on something from one of my courses to someone else and encouraging them. #lrnchat
09:41:06 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q5. Check the Twitter stream. #lrnchat
09:41:19 pm TriciaRansom: @shiftguru It’s painful, isn’t it? #lrnchat
09:41:24 pm LaurenLK: #lrnchat ‘Twere much fun tonight folks. I like the ideas I get and the chance to be a bit silly.🙂
09:41:28 pm jaycross: Q5) Open-ended questions provide information. Closed-ended questions tell you what you want to hear. #lrnchat
09:41:35 pm minutebio: RT @LandDDave: Q5) I look forward to evaluting during breaks by reviewing the Twitter hashtag feed. #LRNCHAT
09:41:40 pm JaneBozarth: http://www.learningsolutionsmag.com/articles/530/nuts-and-bolts-how-to-evaluate-e-learning #lrnchat
09:42:00 pm LandDDave: RT @jaycross: Q5) Open-ended questions provide information. Closed-ended questions tell you what you want to hear. << So True. #lrnchat
09:42:03 pm minutebio: RT @jaycross: Q5) Open-ended questions provide information. Closed-ended questions tell you what you want to hear. #LRNCHAT
09:42:11 pm jaycross: Q5) On evals in general: wait six weeks or more. See what people put to use. #lrnchat
09:42:21 pm kellygarber: Q5) organizational objectives achieved #lrnchat
09:42:21 pm odguru: RT @Cris2B: @odguru @KoreenOlbrish Luis Molls Funds of Knowledge – can you thumb nail? #lrnchat
09:42:24 pm TriciaRansom: Q5) My most honest evaluations come from me lurking in a training I developed. painful and empowering at the same time. #lrnchat
09:42:34 pm sillym0nkey: q5) but some learners don't realize that learning happened until maybe years later – evals aren't enough #lrnchat
09:42:42 pm TriciaRansom: RT @jaycross: Q5) Open-ended questions provide information. Closed-ended questions tell you what you want to hear. #lrnchat
09:43:03 pm JaneBozarth: RT @sillym0nkey: q5) but some learners dont realize that learning happened until maybe years later – evals arent enough #lrnchat
09:43:10 pm shiftguru: @latelierdelisse Do you notice a difference in comments made immediately after trg vs those taken 2-3 weeks later? #lrnchat
09:43:21 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: http://www.learningsolutionsmag.com/articles/530/nuts-and-bolts-how-to-evaluate-e-learning #lrnchat
09:43:22 pm sukay42: Q5 ask… Realy ask… If necessary ask for anynonomous feedback…not just from learners but also their peers, managers, etc #lrnchat
09:43:22 pm gminks: RT @sillym0nkey: q5) but some learners dont realize that learning happened until maybe years later – evals arent enough #lrnchat
09:43:29 pm TriciaRansom: Q5) Evals usually only get info on what *you* ask the learner, not what they need to share with you. #lrnchat
09:43:34 pm userkoko2: RT @LandDDave: RT @jaycross: Q5) Open-ended questions provide information. Closed-ended questions tell you what you want to hear. << So True. #lrnchat
09:43:40 pm weisblatt: Q5: I worry about measuring. It takes up resources and doesn't always produce value. #lrnchat
09:43:57 pm LandDDave: Q5) Make sure you don't let learners leave until they complete an eval form – it GUARANTEES honest feedback.😉 #lrnchat
09:44:18 pm sillym0nkey: YES RT@shiftguru:@latelierdelisse Do u notice a difference n comments made immediately aftr trg vs taken 2-3 wks l8r? #lrnchat
09:44:25 pm weisblatt: Q5: I still want to smack the person who kept pestering me about buying a scantron machine #lrnchat
09:44:37 pm latelierdelisse: @shiftguru yes, tho we are often asking different things. #lrnchat
09:45:01 pm LandDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q5) How do you *evalute* your learning solutions? << By measuring PERFORMANCE #lrnchat
09:45:05 pm sillym0nkey: LOL RT@LandDDave: Q5) Make sure u don't let lrnrs leave until thy complete an eval form – GUARANTEES honest feedback.😉 #lrnchat
09:45:20 pm sillym0nkey: HA! RT @weisblatt: Q5: I still want to smack the person who kept pestering me about buying a scantron machine #lrnchat
09:45:34 pm everyselearning: he he! RT @LandDDave Make sure you don't let learners leave until they complete an eval form – it GUARANTEES honest feedback.😉 #lrnchat
09:45:44 pm TriciaRansom: Q5) Evaluation tied to your prep pre-development work. If you've defined what success should be, you can evaluate for it #lrnchat
09:45:47 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too. #lrnchat
09:45:59 pm jbird_sk: RT @hjarche: Q2) your training is effective when you can't keep people away, including managers #lrnchat
09:46:12 pm kellygarber: Q5) asking a learner if they learned is ineffective measurement – they need to show that they learned. "before and after pics" #lrnchat
09:46:36 pm shiftguru: @lrnchat Thanks, all. Great commentary. Must call it a night. #lrnchat.
09:46:42 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too. some learning mgrs prefer not to know #fail
09:53:53 pm Trybarefoot: Details?? RT @sillym0nkey: The BEST learning conference of all! RT @Trybarefoot: What’s DevLearn? #lrnchat
09:53:58 pm sahana2802: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Sign up for drstrangelearn.com and get in on the ARG fun! #dl10arg #dl10 #lrnchat
09:54:17 pm HalellyAzulay: What’s ur bckgrnd/specialty? RT @DavidDLaCroix: looking for training/facilitation/curriculum work, contract or otherwise, in DC. #lrnchat
09:55:06 pm DougNelsonLC: @TriciaRansom Tricia, DevLearn’s hashtag is #dl10 #lrnchat
09:55:11 pm sillym0nkey: @trybarefoot — check out the http://www.elearningguild.com/DevLearn/content/1674/home #lrnchat
09:55:28 pm stickylearning: Qwrap) Michael Eury – learning designer in Australia here’s the plug! http://www.stotanld.com/ Great #lrnchat today!
09:55:56 pm TriciaRansom: @DougNelsonLC Thank you! Going to try to learn via backdoor #lrnchat
09:55:57 pm JaneBozarth: RT @DavidDLaCroix Shameless plug: looking for training/facilitation/curriculum work, contract or otherwise, in DC. #lrnchat
#lrnchat
09:56:23 pm sillym0nkey: @trybarefoot – great speakers, interesting trends, fun, informative sessions, lrng zones, keynotes, games and more #lrnchat
09:57:23 pm LandDDave: @taylorperforman Ah, I’m so sorry I missed this! All you have to do is search the hashtag #lrnchat and include it in your tweets.
09:57:24 pm Trybarefoot: Cool! RT @sillym0nkey: @trybarefoot — check out the http://bit.ly/aXIqyP #lrnchat
09:58:06 pm sillym0nkey: play the ARG Dr. Strangelearn. and if you have smartphone dwnload devlearn app for twitter feed and program details #lrnchat
09:58:18 pm mequel: Back to my citations and grading…Corp Trainer…Dec. 11th Graduate with M.S. from U of Alabama Roll Tide!!!! On to Ph.D in Ed Psy #lrnchat
09:58:33 pm lrnchat: Thank you for joining us on #lrnchat. Pls invite others next week & tell us if you blog about the conversation. http://lrnchat.com

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