Transcript 30 September 2010 (late)

08:30:54 pm lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been? Q0 warm up after the rules.
08:31:22 pm lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1. Introduce yourself. (We do this again at the end). Location? Focus? Fave topics?
08:31:33 pm kelly_smith01: RT @minutebio: Pardon all the tweets, entering #lrnchat
08:31:47 pm moehlert: RT @minutebio: Pardon all the tweets, entering #lrnchat Jump in if ur into learning and training and junk like that
08:32:31 pm lrnchat: Rule2. [try to] stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 20 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
08:32:31 pm mrch0mp3rs: I don’t mean to sabotage your tweet stream, but #lrnchat is beginning. #lrnchat
08:32:50 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman, e-Learning Designer in a very wet Baltimore, MD #lrnchat
08:33:04 pm LandDDave: What better way to pass the time on my train ride from NYC to DC then to join my friends for #lrnchat?
08:33:07 pm moehlert: @lrnchat #lrnchat Hi all! Mark Oehlert from outside Washington DC. Historian. Anthropologist. Gamer. Virtual Worlds. Emerging Tech. Innov.
08:33:23 pm lrnchat: Rule3. When writing, complete thoughts help followers outside chat learn from you. #lrnchat
08:33:48 pm jonll: RT @mrch0mp3rs: I don’t mean to sabotage your tweet stream, but #lrnchat is beginning. #lrnchat
08:34:01 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, ISD Consultant & Telecom Consultant N Texas #lrnchat
08:34:43 pm hybridkris: Kris Rockwell from Hybrid Learning Systems/ImpactGames, Pittsburgh, PA. Play backchatter tonight in #lrnchat! http://bit.ly/9ixvis
08:34:44 pm lrnchat: Rule4. Remember to include the #lrnchat in all posts. http://tweetchat.com http://tweetgrid.com & http://twubs.com work well
08:35:43 pm lrnchat: Rule5. Periodically RT questions so others outside #lrnchat know what you’re talking about so they can chime in too.
08:36:12 pm LandDDave: Greetings from the Amtrak 55 to DC #lrnchat! David Kelly, Training Director for NYC Bank, plotting the next leg of my journey.
08:36:17 pm billcush: Bill Cushard. Mountain View, CA. Trainer of salespeople and the software they use. #lrnchat
08:36:18 pm mrch0mp3rs: Aaron Silvers, Chicago, IL. Community Manager for @ADL_Initiative, @scormharmony and @learningreg. Sometimes, I’m tweet. #lrnchat
08:36:19 pm lrnchat: Rule6. On #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm & irony welcome though. Really
08:36:20 pm jonll: Jon – P&Ls, Ops guy, sales/tech trng programs in socal where we get thunder, lightnin’ and Blue Angels overhead all in same day #lrnchat
08:36:33 pm hamtra: Hello #lrnchat – Tracy Parish, Newmarket, Ontario – elearning designer, health care organization.
08:36:57 pm Callooh: Dianne Rees, ID-er and content developer from TX; focus is health care & health literacy #lrnchat
08:37:31 pm lrnchat: Rule7. 10 min before the end of #lrnchat, reintroduce yourself. Links, requests, & shameless plugs welcome, too.
08:37:54 pm Schnicker: Howdy all – Nicole Fougere, all round dogsbody & happy blogger for the @Litmos LMS in New Zealand #lrnchat
08:38:27 pm mrch0mp3rs: @Schnicker “dogsbody?” #lrnchat
08:38:28 pm lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
08:39:08 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
08:39:31 pm KoreenOlbrish: o hai! am i late? what did i miss? #lrnchat
08:39:50 pm LearnNuggets: Hey all! Kevin, Memphis, TN. eLearning dev, design, animation, graphics, & all that techie stuff to make it all play nice together! #lrnchat
08:40:24 pm Schnicker: @mrch0mp3rs Yeah ‘dogsbody’. That’s me! :o) #lrnchat
08:40:26 pm kelly_smith01: Q0) Learned filling out employment forms (contract assignment) is as much paper work as buying a house. #lrnchat
08:40:46 pm ryantracey: Hi everyone, Ryan Tracey in Sydney #lrnchat
08:40:49 pm Callooh: I learned about ways to use QR codes for education about health #lrnchat
08:40:51 pm LandDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
08:40:52 pm LearnNuggets: Q0) I learned that @mrch0mp3rs has started a lrnchat wiki space and coordinating a podcast. #lrnchat
08:41:26 pm mrch0mp3rs: @Schnicker You just gave me my Q0 #lrnchat
08:41:27 pm billcush: Q0) today I learned that I should embrace my productivity bursts. #lrnchat
08:41:37 pm KoreenOlbrish: Koreen Olbrish, Tandem Learning, Phillyish, experiential learning, games, conference hopper, explorer of crazy ideas #lrnchat
08:41:50 pm moehlert: @lrnchat Q0) I’ve learned that fear,control and trust really are hurdles in using SoMe in the enterprise #lrnchat
08:41:57 pm IrisTopaz: #lrnchat Colleen Doylend Vancouver Island, L & D Consultant. Am learning that there is way too many notions, ideas to learn & put out there
08:42:09 pm LearnNuggets: Q0) Okay, this may be odd but I learned what the word (acronym) ‘NEWS’ stands for: North, East, West, South. Didn’t know that. #lrnchat
08:42:10 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @mrch0mp3rs: #lrnchat begins in 3… 2.. 1… hit it RT @moehlert: Q0) fine. I also learned that gamification is word, a company, a blog and a summit #lrnchat
08:45:27 pm lrnchat: Q1) If you really wanted to sabotage learning, how would you do it? #lrnchat
08:45:32 pm latelierdelisse: Lisse, eLearning ID and general edu-geek Boston
#lrnchat
08:45:38 pm philbaumann: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q0. I learned I don’t like oysters, I love meeting Twitter people in person, and @reginaholliday ROCKS. #lrnchat
08:45:50 pm jwillensky: Q0) I’ve learned that a netbook from 2008 is a useful doorstop. #lrnchat
08:45:50 pm mrch0mp3rs: RT @lrnchat: Q1) If you really wanted to sabotage learning, how would you do it? #lrnchat
08:45:53 pm ronindotca: Q0: I learned I like the iPad, that aftershocks still suck, that sun makes me real happy #lrnchat
08:46:04 pm LearnNuggets: @Quinnovator I don’t like it either, but it does sound like that will be just as fun. #lrnchat
08:46:12 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q1) If you really wanted to sabotage learning, how would you do it? #lrnchat
08:46:49 pm jwillensky: Q1) I would design learning with slavish devotion to learning styles. #lrnchat
08:46:54 pm minutebio: Q1) Sabotage learning – make it mandatory. #lrnchat
08:46:55 pm LearnNuggets: Q1) Lecture w/ no engagement or interaction. Just think back when you were in school. Did you really “learn” anything? #lrnchat
08:47:03 pm Schnicker: Q0) Today I learned that @mrch0mp3rs did not know what a ‘dogsbody’ was.. #lrnchat
08:47:05 pm billcush: Bootstrap. RT @nickfloro: Q0 Hi. Learned no matter what the budget is you can always use (need) a bigger one. #lrnchat
08:47:07 pm ronindotca: q1) Textbooks only, lectures only, two tests, one final. Mandatory lecture attendance #lrnchat
08:47:17 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q1) If you really wanted to sabotage learning, how would you do it? #lrnchat
08:47:18 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Sabotage learning by following the rules/guidelines/past practice/expected practice/ADDIE. #lrnchat
08:47:19 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) Force people to take learning because “you may need to know it sometime” #lrnchat
08:47:20 pm ronindotca: RT @jwillensky: Q1) I would design learning with slavish devotion to learning styles. #lrnchat
08:47:23 pm hamtra: q1) Make it mandatory. #lrnchat
08:47:30 pm minutebio: Q1) Sabotage learning – Ask the managers and/or SMEs to facilitate #lrnchat
08:47:30 pm ryantracey: Q1) Force navigation #lrnchat
08:47:32 pm Dave_Ferguson: Q1: To sabotage learning, believe it’s something that experts, instructors, facilitators cause. And then test to prove it.
#lrnchat
08:47:35 pm LandDDave: Q0) I learned that you can get a veggie burger on an Amtrak train. Nice. Comes in a plastic bag. Tastes like it too. Not as nice. #lrnchat
08:47:57 pm IrisTopaz: #lrnchat Q1) Contract a canned dude/ette, play who moved my cheese and make everyone roleplay and sing Kumbaya.
08:48:01 pm latelierdelisse: Q0) I learned that I am still not an Articulate fan, and that publishing is still a very small world. #lrnchat
08:48:02 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q1. why when i hear the word Sabotage to I just hear the Beastie Boys song? #lrnchat
08:48:15 pm LearnNuggets: Q1) Tack on compliance reporting to EVERYONE and to ALL training. #lrnchat
08:48:31 pm ronindotca: @KoreenOlbrish because you are smart. #lrnchat
08:48:44 pm kelly_smith01: RT @jwillensky: Q0) I’ve learned that a netbook from 2008 is a useful doorstop. #lrnchat –> Also a kitty box – just add litter.
08:48:44 pm Dave_Ferguson: To sabotage learning, use training techniques for problems not caused by a gap in skill or knowledge. #lrnchat
08:48:48 pm LearnNuggets: @latelierdelisse Interesting. Not a fan. Don’t like it? #lrnchat
08:48:52 pm hamtra: Q1) make it boring and include a 4000 page text book #lrnchat
08:48:58 pm LandDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q1) If you really wanted to sabotage learning, how would you do it? #lrnchat
08:49:03 pm jwillensky: @KoreenOlbrish I was just about to say the same thing. #Beasties #lrnchat
08:49:03 pm kelly_smith01: RT @LearnNuggets: Q1) Tack on compliance reporting to EVERYONE and to ALL training. #lrnchat
08:49:10 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) Sabotage learning? Make the learning last for a week “because we booked the room anyway” #lrnchat
08:49:14 pm ryantracey: Q1) Assess everything #lrnchat
08:49:21 pm Dave_Ferguson: To sabotage learning, be sure to inflict training on people who already know how to perform.
#lrnchat
08:49:22 pm minutebio: Q1) Just add a next button and turn it off until the audio is done #lrnchat
08:49:25 pm Schnicker: Same! RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q1. why when i hear the word Sabotage to I just hear the Beastie Boys song? #lrnchat
08:49:27 pm moehlert: RT @lrnchat: Q1) If you really wanted to sabotage learning, how would you do it? #lrnchat
08:49:28 pm hamtra: LOLOL RT @IrisTopaz: #lrnchat Q1) Contract a canned dude/ette, play who moved my cheese and make everyone roleplay and sing Kumbaya.
08:49:34 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q1. sabotage learning? don’t allow for practice #lrnchat
08:49:35 pm billcush: Q1) sabotage learning: propose 6 month deadline to develop sales training course, “if you stick to my review schedule.” #lrnchat
08:49:42 pm latelierdelisse: @LearnNuggets Very buggy and uncooperative. #lrnchat
08:49:44 pm kelly_smith01: RT @IrisTopaz: #lrnchat Q1) Contract a canned dude/ette, play who moved my cheese and make everyone roleplay and sing Kumbaya.
08:49:55 pm jonll: RT @minutebio: Q1) Sabotage learning – Ask the managers and/or SMEs to facilitate #lrnchat
08:50:00 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) Click Next. Read. Click Next. Read. Click Next. Read. Click Next. Read. 3 T/F questions. Click Next. Read. Click Next. Read #lrnchat
08:50:03 pm minutebio: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q1. sabotage learning? dont allow for practice #lrnchat
08:50:04 pm moehlert: @lrnchat Q1) Do you mean sabotage learning or sabotage training? Two VASTLY different things! #lrnchat
08:50:15 pm Dave_Ferguson: To sabotage learning, start scheduled events w/ ritual recitation of objectives, 15 mins of icebreakers, and Maslow’s hierarchy. #lrnchat
08:50:24 pm Callooh: Q1) Push content w/o considering what learners need/want to do #lrnchat
08:50:45 pm LandDDave: Q1) I would knock on IT’s door and ask for their assistance with a learning initiative. #lrnchat
08:50:58 pm jonll: Q1)Find someone with a monotone voice, make it really long, in a hot room with lots of bullets and animations #lrnchat
08:51:00 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) Click Next. Read. Click Next. Read. Click Next. Read. Click Next. Read. 3 T/F questions. Click Next. Read. #lrnchat
08:51:02 pm LearnNuggets: @latelierdelisse If you care, I’d be more interested in the details. I’ve not had any issues and it cooperates just fine for me. #lrnchat
08:51:04 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Callooh: Q1) Push content w/o considering what learners need/want to do #lrnchat
08:51:05 pm hamtra: Q1) Had a prof write a billion words on the board, that we HAD to copy ’cause we might be tested. I copied & listed to the radio #lrnchat
08:51:08 pm minutebio: RT @LandDDave: Q1) I would knock on ITs door and ask for their assistance with a learning initiative. #lrnchat
08:51:17 pm Schnicker: Q1) Assign a bunch of bulleted powerpoint slides, without any audio or interactions, to your learners to click through #lrnchat
08:51:22 pm LandDDave: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q1. why when i hear the word Sabotage to I just hear the Beastie Boys song? #lrnchat
08:51:24 pm ronindotca: q1 related quote “I have the best textbook in the world, why would I need any activities or formative assessment?” #lrnchat
08:51:34 pm ronindotca: RT @minutebio: RT @LandDDave: Q1) I would knock on ITs door and ask for their assistance with a learning initiative. #lrnchat
08:51:34 pm LearnNuggets: @LandDDave Ha! Yep, and get them on the front end of the design, too! #lrnchat
08:51:35 pm jonll: Q1) or if for sales people, anything over 4minutes #lrnchat
08:51:41 pm gminks: missing #lrnchat off to meet a co-worker from Ireland sorry y’all
08:51:44 pm kerina: RT @minutebio: Q1) Sabotage learning – make it mandatory. #lrnchat
08:51:45 pm moehlert: @lrnchat Q1) Here is a manual from the OSS (pre-CIA) on Sabotage http://scr.bi/byNS7i Check section on organizations & conferences #lrnchat
08:51:49 pm mrch0mp3rs: You can sabotage both learning and training by using either at your whim with no distinction. #lrnchat
08:52:00 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) The authority of those who teach is often an obstacle to those who want to learn. ~ Cicero #lrnchat
08:52:03 pm billcush: Ha! RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) Sabotage learning? Make the learning last for a week “because we booked the room anyway” #lrnchat
08:52:15 pm hamtra: Now that’s just being ridiculous🙂 RT @LandDDave: Q1) knock on IT’s door and ask for their assistance with a learning initiative. #lrnchat
08:52:35 pm LearnNuggets: @gminks Enjoy! and say hi to your pal from all of us. #lrnchat
08:52:51 pm Callooh: Q1) Be wedded to one approach/theory if you are an instructor; be passive/non-questioning if you are a learner #lrnchat
08:52:57 pm ryantracey: Q1) Fail to provide handouts, so learner is forced to write frantically rather than listen (similar to @hamtra) #lrnchat
08:53:07 pm moehlert: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) The authority of those who teach is often an obstacle to those who want to learn. ~ Cicero #lrnchat
08:53:12 pm TriciaRansom: Story from my life! RT @billcush: Ha! RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) Make it last for a week “because we booked the room anyway” #lrnchat
08:53:15 pm billcush: Q1) 10 pt font on ppt. #lrnchat
08:53:25 pm hamtra: Q1) Cram everything they might possibly have to know one day into the same course and make it take 3 hrs to completed #lrnchat
08:53:35 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q1. sabotage learning by not letting people talk to each other #lrnchat
08:53:40 pm creatingchange: Q1Hello all, just swung in – ‘in the now’ focused learners need lots of refs & supporting credibility-building info 2 ‘keep’ data #lrnchat
08:53:43 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Spend hours writing multiple-choice, matching, & short answer items to make learning “interactive” #lrnchat
08:53:47 pm jwillensky: Q1) Seriously? Start with information that’s too complex. Fail to acknowledge obstacles. Don’t test/pilot/edit. #lrnchat
08:53:57 pm minutebio: RT @hamtra: Q1) Cram everything they might possibly have to know one day into the same course and make it take 3 hrs to completed #lrnchat
08:53:59 pm IrisTopaz: #lrnchat Whoa. This is fast. Sabotage learning? Put the course in hashtags on twitter facilitated by L & D dude/ettes and say “Go”!
08:53:59 pm LearnNuggets: Clarity from The Beard RT @mrch0mp3rs: You can sabotage both learning & training by using either at your whim with no distinction. #lrnchat
08:54:15 pm hamtra: Q1) – only – use – bullet – points – to – get – every – message – across – in – your – course #lrnchat
08:54:24 pm latelierdelisse: @LearnNuggets Quizmaker crashes my system too much. Very picky about where files are stored. Can’t work off the server #lrnchat
08:54:33 pm Callooh: Q1) Sticking to a silo approach if you are in an org/agency #lrnchat
08:54:35 pm ronindotca: q1 related anecdote: faculty member here averages 100 ppt slides PER CLASS. His stuff comes pre-sabatoged. #lrnchat
08:54:37 pm mrch0mp3rs: Sabotage? Apply the Fabian strategy. Everytime someone wants to learn something, I retreat until they get tired of asking. #30rock #lrnchat
08:54:45 pm hamtra: Great point RT @jwillensky: Q1) Start with information that’s too complex. Fail to acknowledge obstacles. Don’t test/pilot/edit. #lrnchat
08:54:47 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Cram lesson into 3-ring binders or 30+ minute e-learning lesson. #lrnchat
08:54:56 pm creatingchange: Q1 They then feel it worthwhile to open up the conversation, vs ‘in the future’ learners who like to ‘what if’ info. #lrnchat
08:55:02 pm LandDDave: Q1) I would start the learning by establishing the rules of conduct and making sure learners knew what they were NOT allowed to do. #lrnchat
08:55:09 pm moehlert: @lrnchat Q1) Give instructors a powerful tool like PowerPoint and give them NO training on presentations #lrnchat
08:55:10 pm LearnNuggets: Q1) Let SMEs facilitate a workshop and/or design and develop online training. #lrnchat
08:55:11 pm jwillensky: @billcush I like to start with 6 pt., so the 10 pt. looks huge. Like the weighted donut in the on-deck circle. #lrnchat
08:55:33 pm Schnicker: Sure fire RT @jwillensky: Q1) Seriously? Start w/ info that’s too complex. Fail to acknowledge obstacles. Don’t test/pilot/edit #lrnchat
08:55:33 pm ronindotca: RT @moehlert: @lrnchat Q1) Give instructors a powerful tool like PowerPoint and give them NO training on presentations #lrnchat
08:55:39 pm hybridkris: RT @moehlert: @lrnchat Q1) Give instructors a powerful tool like PowerPoint and give them NO training on presentations #lrnchat
08:55:50 pm audioswhite: Q1) Confusing learning with instruction/ information. – sorry I’m late #lrnchat
08:55:50 pm JillBromen: RT @MrStephenWolfe: I don’t see a need to “wait on superman” – I see superheroes on here every day #ELLchat #mathchat #lrnchat
08:55:58 pm minutebio: Q1) Ah – Take the SMEs PPT, import it into some e-learning software, add audio… DONE! #lrnchat
08:56:05 pm mrch0mp3rs: @moehlert Give people any powerful tool and no preparation and just expect everything will go according to plan #DrEvil #lrnchat
08:56:09 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) Info is better presented as a communication than a course – info too simple in a course too long. #lrnchat
08:56:11 pm ronindotca: @moehlert that’s a HUGE issue. Much of the faculty at tertiary level have no specific teacher training.. #lrnchat
08:56:22 pm kelly_smith01: RT @hamtra: Q1) – only – use – bullet – points – to – get – every – message – across – in – your – course #lrnchat —> – Good Point
08:56:33 pm TriciaRansom: RT @minutebio: Q1) Ah – Take the SMEs PPT, import it into some e-learning software, add audio… DONE! #lrnchat
08:56:53 pm JaneBozarth: Q1. (Sorry I’m late!) Send the wrong ppl to training in defiance of the ‘target audience’ description #lrnchat
08:56:59 pm LearnNuggets: Don’t forget the clipart! RT @minutebio: Q1) Ah – Take the SMEs PPT, import it into some e-learning software, add audio… DONE! #lrnchat
08:57:02 pm jonll: Q1) pay your IDs by the word or slide #lrnchat
08:57:08 pm hamtra: q1) I’m starting to feel guilty about elements of a few of these sabotages. eek #lrnchat
08:57:08 pm TriciaRansom: @billcush No, still no vacation planned. sigh. Thinking Paris/Venice next year! #lrnchat
08:57:09 pm kelly_smith01: RT @minutebio: Q1) Ah – Take the SMEs PPT, import it into some e-learning software, add audio… DONE! #lrnchat
08:57:16 pm LandDDave: Side note – twitter’s iPhone app really needs the option to retweet with edits. #lrnchat
08:57:31 pm latelierdelisse: RT @minutebio: Q1) Ah – Take the SMEs PPT, import it into some e-learning software, add audio… DONE! Been doing that all wk, grr #lrnchat
08:57:41 pm JaneBozarth: fail to tell people why they’re being sent to training/what mgmt wants to see from them afterward #lrnchat
08:57:59 pm KoreenOlbrish: i love that there’s a #beasties crew that are all running through the Sabotage lyrics right now #listenallyallitssabotage #lrnchat
08:58:01 pm TriciaRansom: @LandDDave If it’s tweetdeck, you can change that under the Settings button #lrnchat
08:58:05 pm JaneBozarth: @LandDDave agree on iphone app
#lrnchat
08:58:12 pm hybridkris: @moehlert That is a good point. I used to have a Preso Hall of Shame. Beavis and Butthead do not belong in your flight training. #lrnchat
08:58:16 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Specify length of training in time prior to starting the process. #lrnchat
08:58:19 pm Schnicker: The people with the best ideas have obviously contemplated it at some point… non? #lrnchat
08:58:20 pm LearnNuggets: If they are not prepared, any tool isn’t going to matter anyway….make it worse maybe. @mrch0mp3rs @moehlert #lrnchat
08:58:39 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) Who was it who asked training vs. learning? Which one are we focusing on? #lrnchat
08:58:57 pm minutebio: RT @kelly_smith01: Q1) Specify length of training in time prior to starting the process. #lrnchat
08:59:14 pm ronindotca: Q1) related question: how many of you work in tertiary and how many are in industry/work training stuff? #lrnchat
08:59:17 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Jeopardy like games for e-learning. (Ooops, wrong answer. Try again.) #lrnchat
08:59:22 pm KoreenOlbrish: please tell me powerpoint is one of our drinking game words, right? #lrnchat
08:59:24 pm LandDDave: Q1) I would not bother focusing on getting learners interested in why they would want to learn about the topic. #lrnchat
08:59:52 pm jwillensky: @Schnicker Oui. #lrnchat
08:59:59 pm Quinnovator: Q1) sabotage? Assign a committee to it #lrnchat
09:00:03 pm TriciaRansom: If it is I’m already blosky! RT @KoreenOlbrish: please tell me powerpoint is one of our drinking game words, right? #lrnchat
09:00:06 pm latelierdelisse: RT @KoreenOlbrish: please tell me powerpoint is one of our drinking game words, right? #lrnchat
09:00:14 pm ronindotca: @KoreenOlbrish looking for an excuse? (It pains me I can’t play along, but at 2pm it’s a bit umm.. frowned upon). #lrnchat
09:00:26 pm moehlert: #lrnchat @LearnNuggets @mrch0mp3rs @hybridkris @roninchef So we’re in violent agreement. So who is doing Presentation Zen training?
09:00:29 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: Q1) sabotage? make a committee #lrnchat
09:00:33 pm Callooh: Imagine that informal learning works w/o context, scaffolding, mentoring #lrnchat
09:00:39 pm JoanVinallCox: @ronindotca I’m in tertiary, but started in community college & fell in love with teaching theory & improving practice > PhD #lrnchat
09:00:41 pm JaneBozarth: Q1) years ago saw colleague pretty much have a breakdown over being ordered to do training on a policy that didn’t exist yet #lrnchat
09:00:50 pm minutebio: RT @Quinnovator: Q1) sabotage? Assign a committee to it #lrnchat
09:00:51 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @Quinnovator: Q1) sabotage? Assign a committee to it #lrnchat
09:00:53 pm Quinnovator: RT @KoreenOlbrish: please tell me powerpoint is one of our drinking game words, right? #lrnchat < make it so
09:00:56 pm TriciaRansom: @LandDDave Now why on earth would I care about getting them interested? #lrnchat
09:00:57 pm moehlert: @Quinnovator You know what a camel is right? Horse designed by committee. #lrnchat
09:01:15 pm LandDDave: @JaneBozarth or failure to even consider what you want learners to do afterwards. #lrnchat
09:01:24 pm KoreenOlbrish: @ronindotca oh, its after noon? You're totally safe! #lrnchat
09:01:25 pm lrnchat: Q2) What are some common learning traps we find ourselves and our learners in? #lrnchat
09:01:25 pm moehlert: @JaneBozarth Clear violation of the Three Laws of Robotics #lrnchat
09:01:30 pm lrnchat: A definition of *learning trap*: the stuff we "know" to avoid, but end up doing anyway. (/via @mrch0mp3rs) #lrnchat
09:01:35 pm rperhamus: #lrnchat Would someone skype into my college classroom, just to I can see if it will work? Rob.Perhamud
09:01:42 pm hamtra: It must be added RT @Quinnovator: RT @KoreenOlbrish: please tell me powerpoint is one of our drinking game words, right? #lrnchat
09:01:44 pm TriciaRansom: @JaneBozarth Story about your colleague's breakdown just made me spit out my pop! #lrnchat
09:01:48 pm Callooh: Hey dis bad powerpoint, not all powerpoints. Have seen plenty of crappy Flash modules #lrnchat
09:02:00 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some common learning traps we find ourselves and our learners in? #lrnchat
09:02:03 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some common learning traps we find ourselves and our learners in? #lrnchat
09:02:23 pm JaneBozarth: q1) "I hired a jerk so now I want you to do a teambuilding workshop for my 12 staff." #lrnchat
09:02:23 pm moehlert: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some common learning traps we find ourselves and our learners in? #lrnchat
09:02:30 pm Quinnovator: speaking of drinking, don't forget the Official #lrnchat Drinking GameΓäó http://lrnchatdrinkinggame.wikispaces.com/ < yes, *you* can edit it
09:02:40 pm LandDDave: Another side note – the person sitting behind me is 'literally' going for a record for using the word 'literally' in conversation. #lrnchat
09:03:01 pm moehlert: @lrnchat Q2) Wait. Can compliance training be a trap? Cuz I'd like to avoid it. #lrnchat
09:03:05 pm JaneBozarth: q2) Unreasonable expectations about what training can accomplish/what can be 'learned' or 'taught' #lrnchat
09:03:06 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) I hate to admit it, but I cave about objectives (stated or not)…"You will be able to list the steps to do blah". Shame on me! #lrnchat
09:03:09 pm LandDDave: RT @Quinnovator: Q1) sabotage? Assign a committee to it #lrnchat
09:03:28 pm Callooh: Q2) Not getting prospective learner feedback up front #lrnchat
09:03:31 pm mrch0mp3rs: RT @Quinnovator: dont forget Official #lrnchat Drinking GameΓäó http://lrnchatdrinkinggame.wikispaces.com/ < yes *you* can edit it #lrnchat
09:03:35 pm TriciaRansom: @LandDDave Literally? #lrnchat
09:03:40 pm joewehr: Q1) set up an LMS, bring in 1000s of courses from elearning vendors, tell staff they're in charge of their personal development #lrnchat
09:03:43 pm Quinnovator: Q2) taking the SME at face value when they say "they need to learn this, and this, and this…" #lrnchat
09:03:49 pm hamtra: Q2) Saw a lot of learners recently skip to the quiz and by-pass all the material in between, because it is HAVE TO DO learning. #lrnchat
09:03:52 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q2. rapid development #lrnchat
09:03:55 pm ronindotca: @KoreenOlbrish in the office? During term break with @lulu03dotca tagging along? I think not. #lrnchat
09:03:56 pm LandDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some common learning traps we find ourselves and our learners in? #lrnchat
09:03:58 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some common learning traps we find ourselves and our learners in? #lrnchat
09:04:00 pm ryantracey: Q2) Learning traps? Mandating training withour RPL #lrnchat
09:04:28 pm LearnNuggets: Q2) "BTW, we have a new program going out next week. Think you can 'throw' some training together for me?" #lrnchat
09:04:34 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) "Giving in" and doing it the way it is expected, done in the past, done by our competitors, "suggested" by management #lrnchat
09:04:35 pm hamtra: q2) Thinking it ALL has to be in the course and covered, making it too complex, too long, too boring.#lrnchat
09:04:38 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @joewehr: Q1) set up LMS, bring in 1000s courses from elearning vendors, tell staff theyre in charge of own personal development #lrnchat
09:04:39 pm ryantracey: So true – RT @KoreenOlbrish Q2. rapid development #lrnchat
09:04:51 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) Not fighting the need-to-do vs. nice-to-know fight and just dumping it all in. #lrnchat
09:04:59 pm moehlert: @lrnchat Q2) Thinking that we build 'learning' instead of 'training' or 'opportunities' #lrnchat
09:05:14 pm LandDDave: Q2) Targeting the symptom but not the disease. #lrnchat
09:05:26 pm kelly_smith01: RT @TriciaRansom: Q2) Not fighting the need-to-do vs. nice-to-know fight and just dumping it all in. #lrnchat
09:05:31 pm mrch0mp3rs: @moehlert Wait… we can build opportunities? #lrnchat
09:05:32 pm LearnNuggets: Q2) Tacking a KPI (Key Performance Indicator) report on EVERY single online module. Manage the report, not the training. #lrnchat
09:05:36 pm Schnicker: Q2) Lazy – putting course material designed for offline in to an LMS to deliver to learners & expecting same results #lrnchat
09:05:37 pm cammybean: RT @moehlert: @lrnchat Q2) Thinking that we build learning instead of training or opportunities #lrnchat
09:05:40 pm ryantracey: @LearnNuggets Oh, yes, that reminds me – Q1) Informing the L&D team a few days before go-live #lrnchat
09:05:43 pm Quinnovator: Q2) thinking that if we build it, they will learn #lrnchat
09:05:44 pm TriciaRansom: @JaneBozarth I've had the same reaction. Hubby has to talk me down…a lot! Designing systems training on a non-existent system #lrnchat
09:05:46 pm JoeScime: RT @kelly_smith01: Qwrap) Kelly Smith ISD Consultant #lrnchat
09:05:47 pm minutebio: RT @TriciaRansom: Q2) Not fighting the need-to-do vs. nice-to-know fight and just dumping it all in. #lrnchat
09:05:47 pm jwillensky: Q2) Pursuit of immediate perfection. #DontSweatTheTechnique #lrnchat
09:06:05 pm mrch0mp3rs: Q2) Thinking that our "outside the box" is actually outside of any box. #lrnchat
09:06:07 pm LearnNuggets: RT @Quinnovator: Q2) thinking that if we build it, they will learn #lrnchat
09:06:16 pm Quinnovator: Q2) taking what's given as learning objectives instead of investigating needed change #lrnchat
09:06:34 pm kelly_smith01: @TriciaRansom Cave on the objective thing if you can win something else #lrnchat
09:06:39 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @Schnicker: Q2) Lazy – putting course material designed 4 offline in to an LMS to deliver to learners & expecting same results #lrnchat
09:06:41 pm ryantracey: Agreed – RT @LandDDave Q2) Targeting the symptom but not the disease. #lrnchat
09:06:46 pm LandDDave: Q2) squeezing too much content into too small a timeframe. #lrnchat
09:06:50 pm moehlert: RT @mrch0mp3rs: @moehlert Wait… we can build opportunities? #lrnchat It's ALL we CAN do man.
09:06:54 pm TriciaRansom: RT @LearnNuggets: RT @Quinnovator: Q2) thinking that if we build it, they will learn #lrnchat
09:06:55 pm audioswhite: RT @moehlert: @lrnchat Q2) Thinking that we build 'learning' instead of 'training' or 'opportunities' #lrnchat
09:07:01 pm IrisTopaz: #lrnchat Q2) I think I know what they are thinking. Oops. Head shake.
09:07:03 pm cammybean: Q2) Merely taking the order… #lrnchat
09:07:09 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @LandDDave: Q2) squeezing too much content into too small a timeframe. #lrnchat
09:07:10 pm LearnNuggets: RT @Schnicker: Q2) Lazy – putting course material designed for offline in to an LMS to deliver to learners & expecting same results #lrnchat
09:07:10 pm TriciaRansom: @kelly_smith01 Yeah – I pick my fights. #lrnchat
09:07:11 pm Dave_Ferguson: I think overexplaining our theoretical base is a trap. Market for that is thin among mgmt, learners. #lrnchat
09:07:25 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: Q2) thinking that if we build it, they will learn #lrnchat
09:07:31 pm LandDDave: RT @Quinnovator: Q2) thinking that if we build it, they will learn #lrnchat
09:07:42 pm minutebio: RT @Dave_Ferguson: I think overexplaining our theoretical base is a trap. Market for that is thin among mgmt, learners. #lrnchat
09:07:52 pm Callooh: Not treating each course/learning problem as unique #lrnchat
09:07:59 pm Quinnovator: Q2) using the same old formula instead of looking afresh at the opportunities (set effects) #lrnchat
09:08:13 pm JoanVinallCox: Tempting, RT @Dave_Ferguson: I think overexplaining our theoretical base is a trap. Market for that is thin among mgmt, learners. #lrnchat
09:08:16 pm kelly_smith01: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q2) Thinking that our "outside the box" is actually outside of any box. #lrnchat
09:08:19 pm moehlert: @Dave_Ferguson Wait…we have a theoretical base? #lrnchat
09:08:20 pm LearnNuggets: Yeah, it's called "Opportunity Training" RT @moehlert: RT @mrch0mp3rs: @moehlert Its ALL we CAN do man. #lrnchat
09:08:20 pm ryantracey: Q2) Assuming everyone is as keen to learn as we are #lrnchat
09:08:25 pm Dave_Ferguson: Q2: as a field, training/learning awfully fond of bandwagons, practices w/o evidence, and gangs of buzzwords. #lrnchat
09:08:27 pm jwillensky: RT @Dave_Ferguson: I think overexplaining our theoretical base is a trap. Market for that is thin among mgmt, learners. #lrnchat
09:08:33 pm cammybean: @Dave_Ferguson Yes — practice over theory. Tell 'em what works and why, but don't say "terminal objective" or "scaffolding".
#lrnchat
09:08:40 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) Explaining concepts AD NASEUM before letting them do it… #lrnchat
09:08:44 pm JaneBozarth: q2) being a professional order-taker ("Yes, sir! You want an order of teambuilding with a side of stress management! Right away!") #lrnchat
09:08:51 pm Quinnovator: @Dave_Ferguson see my coming Monday's blog post; have *got* to get them beyond thinking good looks = good learning #lrnchat
09:08:52 pm Schnicker: True true.. RT @ryantracey: Q2) Assuming everyone is as keen to learn as we are #lrnchat
09:08:52 pm cammybean: @moehlert All your bases belong to us.
#lrnchat
09:08:59 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q2. trap: addressing symptoms, not problems
#lrnchat
09:09:04 pm JoanVinallCox: Planning that's too detailed before meeting the learners to assess how they learn #lrnchat
09:09:11 pm JoeScime: RT @Callooh: Q1) Push content w/o considering what learners need/want to do #lrnchat
09:09:18 pm cammybean: @JaneBozarth I'll take some of that, please. #lrnchat
09:09:19 pm minutebio: Q2) Not listening to the learners. Or only talking to their managers during needs analysis. #lrnchat
09:09:33 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @Schnicker: True true.. RT @ryantracey: Q2) Assuming everyone is as keen to learn as we are #lrnchat
09:09:33 pm mrch0mp3rs: @Callooh And, conversely, assuming everything is a snowflake. If learning styles are a myth, then we might accept commonalities #lrnchat
09:09:36 pm LandDDave: Q2) ending with the powerful and moving "please don't forget to fill out your evaluations before you leave.". #lrnchat
09:09:40 pm minutebio: RT @JoanVinallCox: Planning thats too detailed before meeting the learners to assess how they learn #lrnchat
09:09:47 pm Dave_Ferguson: Claude Lineberry said ca. 1985: computer-based training isn't the answer. It's a question. (Replace w "social [anything]") #lrnchat
09:09:50 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) Assuming quality learning in by weight (thick 3-ring binder, 40-minute e-learning module,…) #lrnchat
09:09:57 pm Quinnovator: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q2. trap: addressing symptoms, not problems #lrnchat < bingo
09:09:58 pm minutebio: RT @JoanVinallCox: RT @Schnicker: True true.. RT @ryantracey: Q2) Assuming everyone is as keen to learn as we are #lrnchat
09:10:02 pm latelierdelisse: RT @LandDDave: Q2) ending with the powerful and moving "please dont forget to fill out your evaluations before you leave.". #lrnchat
09:10:04 pm Dave_Ferguson: RT @LandDDave: Q2) ending with the powerful and moving "please dont forget to fill out your evaluations before you leave." #lrnchat
09:10:12 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) Finishing entire course/curriculum before getting any feedback from SME/learners. sigh…you'd think I'd know better by now.. #lrnchat
09:10:12 pm LearnNuggets: Lotsa buzzwords! @Dave_Ferguson: Q2: as a field, trng/lrng awfully fond of bandwagons, practices w/o evidence, gangs of buzzwords. #lrnchat
09:10:16 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @LandDDave: Q2) ending with the powerful and moving "please dont forget to fill out your evaluations before you leave.". #lrnchat
09:10:38 pm jwillensky: @kelly_smith01 Shh. We'll starve to death. #lrnchat
09:10:54 pm Quinnovator: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Q2: as a field, training/learning awfully fond of bandwagons, practices w/o evidence, and gangs of buzzwords. #lrnchat
09:11:16 pm mrch0mp3rs: Forgetting that learning, bottom line, is a change we want to make for ourselves. #lrnchat
09:11:20 pm hamtra: q2) When the course is designed and delivered, forgetting to get feedback from the learners. Did it help? Did you learn? #lrnchat
09:11:24 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q2. trap: thinking we can't be visionary leaders in learning #lrnchat
09:11:26 pm Dave_Ferguson: @LearnNuggets Don't miss my new book & workshop, "The Epistemology of Social Learning Affordances for Learning Strategy." #lrnchat
09:11:34 pm Quinnovator: Q2) thinking quantity = quality (HT several comments) #lrnchat
09:11:42 pm moehlert: @cammybean Who said that? Bloom? Kirkpatrick? Mager? Clark? #lrnchat
09:11:50 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q2. trap: ignoring the importance of design. neglecting to design for context. #lrnchat
09:11:56 pm Callooh: Trying to cram everything into a single course/training event and not supporting transfer after #lrnchat
09:12:05 pm billcush: It's all relative. RT @jwillensky I like to start with 6 pt., so the 10 pt. looks huge. #lrnchat < Go Giants!
09:12:13 pm ryantracey: Q2) Too busy to evaluate #lrnchat
09:12:21 pm Quinnovator: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Forgetting that learning, bottom line, is change we make for ourselves. #lrnchat < learner responsibility? What a concept!
09:12:32 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q2. trap: ignoring the importance of design. neglecting to design for context. #lrnchat
09:12:33 pm cammybean: @moehlert It was noted learning theorist C. Bean. #lrnchat
09:12:40 pm moehlert: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Q2: as a field, training/learning awfully fond of bandwagons, practices w/o evidence, & gangs o buzzwords. #lrnchat AMEN!
09:12:47 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q2. trap: Not assessing the effectiveness of what we design. How much did your design actually change behavior? #lrnchat
09:12:55 pm nancyrubin: Q2) Not putting learning in context of real world so learners can relate to it #lrnchat
09:13:03 pm Quinnovator: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q2. trap: ignoring the importance of design. neglecting to design for context. #lrnchat < underdesign, overproduce
09:13:15 pm minutebio: RT @ryantracey: Q2) Too busy to evaluate | Or too frightened to evaluate #lrnchat
09:13:17 pm latelierdelisse: Q2)Thinking they've learned because they passed a quiz. Letting go when the module is over. #lrnchat
09:13:25 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) Giving a single lecture-only webinar on a new system (w/out job aids) and saying "they're trained" #lrnchat
09:13:25 pm Dave_Ferguson: @KoreenOlbrish And, was the effect your design had on behavior a USEFUL one? #lrnchat
09:13:28 pm LearnNuggets: Neglecting design altogether! RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q2. trap: ignoring the importance of design. neglecting to design for context. #lrnchat
09:13:30 pm moehlert: @cammybean Isn't she an "ASTD Legend"? #lrnchat
09:13:44 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q2: trap: thinking if its too fun, people won't learn. worse? thinking learning can't be fun #lrnchat
09:13:52 pm mrch0mp3rs: Forgetting that what we design is not the only thing our learners have to do. #lrnchat
09:14:01 pm Callooh: Q2) ID trap: Only teaching what you can measure by a multiple choice quiz #lrnchat
09:14:13 pm LandDDave: Q2) Setting up an activity by saying "now let's do an activity" or worse, "let's play a game…" #lrnchat
09:14:14 pm KoreenOlbrish: EXACTLY! RT @Dave_Ferguson: And, was the effect your design had on behavior a USEFUL one? #lrnchat
09:14:17 pm cammybean: @moehlert I think maybe a Titan of Learning. #lrnchat
09:14:28 pm minutebio: RT @Callooh: Q2) ID trap: Only teaching what you can measure by a multiple choice quiz #lrnchat
09:14:30 pm LearnNuggets: Q2) Learner trap: "Do I have to?" #lrnchat
09:14:32 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) Writing too formally and in passive tense. #lrnchat
09:14:53 pm hamtra: RT @Callooh: Q2) ID trap: Only teaching what you can measure by a multiple choice quiz #lrnchat
09:14:59 pm Quinnovator: hope no penalty for early withdrawal, have to go do fam/school stuff, have a great rest of the #lrnchat
09:15:03 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q2: trap: thinking if its too fun, people wont learn. worse? thinking learning cant be fun Fun central to lrning #lrnchat
09:15:14 pm rapidbi: Interested in L&D? Then look at: http://bit.ly/9Cb9Ho #trainingblogs #lrnchat
09:15:16 pm lrnchat: Q3) What can we do to avoid falling into these learning traps? #lrnchat
09:15:39 pm billcush: RT @nancyrubin: Q2) Not putting learning in context of real world so learners can relate to it #lrnchat
09:15:40 pm hamtra: q2) In a large org. writing content at a level beyond that of the average learner. #lrnchat
09:15:41 pm LearnNuggets: New "Drink" buzz phrases? RT @LandDDave: Q2) Set up an activity by saying "now lets do an activity" or worse, "lets play a game…" #lrnchat
09:15:45 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What can we do to avoid falling into these learning traps? #lrnchat
09:15:47 pm LandDDave: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Forgetting that what we design is not the only thing our learners have to do. #lrnchat
09:15:48 pm LandDDave: Q2) Measuring success in terms of 'completions'. #lrnchat
09:15:51 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What can we do to avoid falling into these learning traps? #lrnchat
09:15:52 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What can we do to avoid falling into these learning traps? #lrnchat
09:15:52 pm LearnNuggets: @Quinnovator Be safe! #lrnchat
09:16:00 pm moehlert: @Quinnovator You will forfeit 20% of your learning for early withdrawal #lrnchat
09:16:12 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What can we do to avoid falling into these learning traps? #lrnchat
09:16:32 pm ryantracey: Q3) Make most learning voluntary #lrnchat
09:16:32 pm jonll: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) "Giving in" &doing it the way it is expected, done in the past, done by our competitors, "suggested" by mgmt #lrnchat
09:16:33 pm imkilo: @lrnchat you guys tweeting #lrnchat could just start the posts with @lrnchat then non-followers wouldn't get confused by them🙂
09:16:33 pm Mary_a_Myers: q2) trap: "leveraging" but really just doing the same old thing. (jumping in…had a moment ..) #lrnchat
09:16:35 pm JaneBozarth: q3. Learn to negotiate with management and learn to articulate L&D issues in THEIR terms/jargon/POV #lrnchat
09:16:36 pm mbr1online: Q20 ID Trap: Craming tons of content into a short time. #lrnchat
09:16:48 pm billcush: Q2) Trap: There's just too much work to do…..crankout that learning guide like the last one we did. #lrnchat
09:16:51 pm moehlert: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What can we do to avoid falling into these learning traps? #lrnchat
09:16:54 pm Mary_a_Myers: q3) awareness is half the battle #lrnchat
09:17:01 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q3. To avoid traps: Take pride in what we design. Stand up for what's effective, not convenient. #lrnchat
09:17:14 pm Dave_Ferguson: For org. learning, identify outcomes valued by org.; relate to groups, individs.; guide all planned learning to support these. #lrnchat
09:17:16 pm sirlancalot: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What can we do to avoid falling into these learning traps? #lrnchat
09:17:19 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What can we do to avoid falling into these learning traps? #lrnchat
09:17:25 pm LearnNuggets: Q3) Don't think it's so much about avoidance as it is about gaining alignment #lrnchat
09:17:31 pm mrch0mp3rs: Q3) How do we keep ourselves from promoting the very things we dread? #lrnchat
09:17:32 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q3. To avoid traps: Take pride in what we design. Stand up for whats effective, not convenient. #lrnchat
09:17:50 pm minutebio: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q3. To avoid traps: Take pride in what we design. Stand up for whats effective, not convenient. | Here, here! #lrnchat
09:17:51 pm JaneBozarth: q3) Learn what training can fix, and how to recognize a training problem http://bit.ly/al5msv #lrnchat
09:17:55 pm JoanVinallCox: @imkilo TweetChat puts the hashtags at the end automatically. Sorry #lrnchat
09:17:58 pm TriciaRansom: RT @Mary_a_Myers: q3) awareness is half the battle <– Hi, my name is Tricia and I'm a lazy Instuructional Designer… #lrnchat
09:18:01 pm minutebio: RT @LearnNuggets: Q3) Dont think its so much about avoidance as it is about gaining alignment #lrnchat
09:18:06 pm moehlert: @lrnchat Q3) Send scouts out ahead of you and watch what happens to them. #lrnchat
09:18:14 pm jwillensky: Q3) Adapt basics of Gawande's "The Checklist Manifesto." Create and follow a high-level personal design checklist. #lrnchat
09:18:17 pm creatingchange: Q3 Always factor in time & space for informal & tangental discussion/exploration. Encourage & show how to self-teach. #lrnchat
09:18:19 pm ryantracey: Excellent idea! RT @imkilo you guys could start posts with @lrnchat then non-followers wouldnt get confused by them #lrnchat
09:18:21 pm LandDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What can we do to avoid falling into these learning traps? #lrnchat
09:18:30 pm Dave_Ferguson: It's not "how to use [system/process]," it's "how to [produce result] via [system/process]." Don't get that? Change career. #lrnchat
09:18:36 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @moehlert: @lrnchat Q3) Send scouts out ahead of you and watch what happens to them. <Hacking Work: Breaking Stupid Rules for Smart Results Jensen/Klein http://amzn.to/buoQ7f (have not read yet) #lrnchat
09:21:12 pm latelierdelisse: Q3) Don’t forget creativity in design! #lrnchat
09:21:13 pm billcush: Q3) Avoid Trap: Ask managers to call you out … hold you accountable. #lrnchat
09:21:17 pm kelly_smith01: RT @nancyrubin: q3) Provide opportunities for practice and reflection – reflection helps learners internalize learning #lrnchat
09:21:20 pm Callooh: Explore outside of your usual hashtags #lrnchat
09:21:23 pm creatingchange: Q3 @lrnchat Always put passion into the topic – means finding it in yrself, for the topic, in some way. If not there, don’t do. #lrnchat
09:21:27 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) Focus yourself, your SMEs, your management, and your learners on what they need to do. Condense #lrnchat
09:21:29 pm Mary_a_Myers: q3) maybe work for yourself… or influence your own environment to change attitudes #lrnchat
09:21:37 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @latelierdelisse: Q3) Dont forget creativity in design! And fun! #lrnchat
09:21:38 pm LearnNuggets: @hamtra Ha! Good one! How’s that other shirt holding out? #lrnchat
09:21:41 pm LandDDave: Q3) let go of the reins and give the learners the control #lrnchat
09:21:44 pm mbr1online: Q3) Put youself (as a designer) in the shoes of the learner. #lrnchat
09:21:45 pm kelly_smith01: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q3. To avoid traps: think about whether you’d want to have to sit through what you just designed. … #lrnchat
09:21:55 pm mrch0mp3rs: Make sure you know how to break out of your own trap by encouraging others to be candid with you… often. #lrnchat
09:22:12 pm billcush: Q3) Avoid trap: put yourself in the shoes of the VP of sales…and the pressure that person is under. #lrnchat
09:22:13 pm minutebio: RT @latelierdelisse: Q3) Dont forget creativity in design! | & levity when it works #lrnchat
09:22:19 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) ALWAYS PILOT!!!! Always, always, always! And sit silently in on the pilot and learn from how they’re learning (or not…) #lrnchat
09:22:23 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Callooh: Explore outside of your usual hashtags #lrnchat
09:22:25 pm billcush: RT @mbr1online: Q3) Put youself (as a designer) in the shoes of the learner. #lrnchat
09:22:36 pm billcush: Yes. RT @LandDDave: Q3) let go of the reins and give the learners the control #lrnchat
09:22:38 pm jonll: Q3) learn to push back, innovate, get buy in, know your audience, give up control (UGC) #lrnchat
09:22:52 pm JaneBozarth: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q3. To avoid traps: think about whether youd want to have to sit through what you just designed. … #lrnchat
09:22:52 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Make sure you know how to break out of your own trap by encouraging others to be candid with you… often. #lrnchat
09:23:05 pm nancyrubin: Q3) Take classes and training offered by others to see/learn what works and what doesn’t #lrnchat
09:23:09 pm minutebio: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @KoreenOlbrish: think about whether youd want to have to sit through what you just designed. Beta test 2 #lrnchat
09:23:13 pm mrch0mp3rs: WIN!!!! RT @mbr1online: Q3) Put youself (as a designer) in the shoes of the learner. #lrnchat
09:23:14 pm LearnNuggets: Q3) Don’t forget to remember what it was like not to know. Be a newbie! #lrnchat
09:23:16 pm Schnicker: Q3) Practice what we preach, always ask for feedback & actually use it to learn & improve #lrnchat
09:23:22 pm moehlert: @hybridkris Maybe build these into the game as bonus words http://huff.to/bJI7EY #lrnchat
09:23:23 pm latelierdelisse: Q3) Employ storytelling #lrnchat
09:23:29 pm creatingchange: RT @TriciaRansom: Q3) ALWAYS PILOT!!!! Always, always, always! And sit silently in on the pilot and learn from how they’re learning (or not…) #lrnchat
09:23:31 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @nancyrubin: Q3) Take classes and training offered by others to see/learn what works and what doesnt #lrnchat
09:23:34 pm JaneBozarth: @TriciaRansom pilot earlier, and include some end users! #lrnchat
09:23:34 pm Dave_Ferguson: @TriciaRansom Variation on “always pilot” – acknowledge that X isn’t perfect; invite current learners as collaborators. #lrnchat
09:23:36 pm moehlert: RT @mrch0mp3rs: WIN!!!! RT @mbr1online: Q3) Put youself (as a designer) in the shoes of the learner. #lrnchat
09:23:49 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @LearnNuggets: Q3) Dont forget to remember what it was like not to know. Be a newbie! #lrnchat
09:23:57 pm LearnNuggets: Yes!!! RT @latelierdelisse: Q3) Employ storytelling #lrnchat
09:23:58 pm KevinEikenberry: RT @LandDDave: Q3) let go of the reins and give the learners the control #lrnchat
09:24:12 pm hamtra: Night #lrnchat. As always I’ve learned a great deal from tonight’s brilliant minds in attendance. Thank you.
09:24:21 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @LearnNuggets: Yes!!! RT @latelierdelisse: Q3) Employ storytelling #lrnchat
09:24:30 pm JaneBozarth: q3 Cut it down, and down again. Good design is done when there’s nothing left to take out. #lrnchat
09:24:41 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) Always remember the bad training you’ve had to sit through (WBT, ILT, webinar) and learn from it. #lrnchat
09:24:42 pm hybridkris: @moehlert I’ll put it to @jessdv and see what she can do. The game is running pretty well! #lrnchat
09:24:42 pm Dave_Ferguson: Get best/toughest/high-value problems, real-life solutions from folks who actually do the work. Let ’em debate, even. #lrnchat
09:24:48 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q3. To avoid traps: stop drinking your own Kool-Aid. we’re all still learning here. #lrnchat
09:24:53 pm creatingchange: RT @JaneBozarth: q3 Cut it down, and down again. Good design is done when there’s nothing left to take out. #lrnchat
09:24:57 pm billcush: RT @jonll: Q3) learn to push back, innovate, get buy in, know your audience, give up control (UGC) #lrnchat
09:24:58 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) Sell the concept of innovation as-well-as the innovation itself to management or the money folks. #lrnchat
09:24:59 pm cammybean: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q3. To avoid traps: think about whether youd want to have to sit through what you just designed. … #lrnchat
09:25:06 pm nancyrubin: Free Webinar – How can Personal Learning Environments increase learning outcomes? http://t.co/Syl9osI via @nancyrubin #lrnchat
09:25:07 pm IrisTopaz: RT @TriciaRansom: Q3) ALWAYS PILOT!!!! Always, always, always! And sit silently in on the pilot and learn from how they’re learning (or not…) #lrnchat
09:25:11 pm LandDDave: RT @JaneBozarth: q3 Cut it down, and down again. Good design is done when there’s nothing left to take out. #lrnchat
09:25:12 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: q3 Cut it down, and down again. Good design is done when there’s nothing left to take out. #lrnchat
09:25:14 pm JaneBozarth: RT @LearnNuggets: Q3) Dont forget to remember what it was like not to know. Be a newbie! <–& get some newbies to help #lrnchat
09:25:23 pm TriciaRansom: @JaneBozarth My mantra on my team is "Condense, Delete, Concise, Succinct." #lrnchat
09:25:23 pm LearnNuggets: And easy to digest! RT @JaneBozarth: q3 Cut it down, and down again. Good design is done when theres nothing left to take out. #lrnchat
09:25:37 pm kuriousmind: Q3 in sum …user test, be open to revusion #Lrnchat
09:25:43 pm Dave_Ferguson: Remember (and demonstrate) that for complex skills, there's no such thing as The Right Answer. #lrnchat
09:26:03 pm stales: great idea! RT @Callooh
Explore outside of your usual hashtags #lrnchat
09:26:10 pm mrch0mp3rs: Embrace the work of a dogsbody. It's the details we skip that bite us in the end. #lrnchat
09:26:17 pm Mary_a_Myers: q3) give yourself time to design #lrnchat
09:26:22 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) In your pilot that you sat in on, at the end, ask for feedback & provide examples of how you've incorporated previous feedback #lrnchat
09:26:25 pm davidmcgraw: And your twitter lists RT @Callooh: Explore outside of your usual hashtags #lrnchat
09:26:27 pm Dave_Ferguson: @kuriousmind …to say nothing of revulsion.
#lrnchat
09:26:33 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @kuriousmind: Q3 in sum …user test, be open to revusion – ours or theirs? #lrnchat
09:26:49 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) Learn to be a "hacker". Hack through the existing processes/rules/practices to get things done. #lrnchat
09:27:03 pm rebeccalcorn: RT @Mary_a_Myers: q3) give yourself time to design <& help ppl realize you need time to be effective… #lrnchat
09:27:06 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @kelly_smith01: Q3) Learn to be a "hacker". Hack through the existing processes/rules/practices to get things done. #lrnchat
09:27:09 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) Have someone outside your group/team take the training and see if they learn. If not, learn, adapt, revise, and change. #lrnchat
09:27:10 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @kelly_smith01: Q3) Learn to be a "hacker". Hack through the existing processes/rules/practices to get things done. #lrnchat
09:27:23 pm LearnNuggets: @JaneBozarth Yep. I "try" to get a new newbie (1-3 mos.), recent newbie (6-12 mos), and vet (1-2 years) to help design. #lrnchat
09:27:40 pm mrch0mp3rs: @davidmcgraw @Callooh Good one — break out of your established patterns. Metacognition FTW #lrnchat
09:27:57 pm Schnicker: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Embrace the work of a dogsbody. It's the details we skip that bite us in the end #lrnchat
09:28:03 pm Callooh: Don't be afraid of teaching via PBL challenges even though assessment's harder #lrnchat
09:28:08 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) Ask your learners (not their managers) how they like to learn. You may be surprised at their answers #lrnchat
09:28:20 pm LearnNuggets: Q3) Try to break it. If not, they will. Then you'll wonder why they didn't click that big red button like you "told" them to. #lrnchat
09:28:24 pm rebeccalcorn: RT @TriciaRansom: Q3) Have someone outside your group take training & see if they learn. If not, learn, adapt, revise, and change. #lrnchat
09:28:34 pm kelly_smith01: Q3 Remember from Animal House "It not over til WE say its over" #lrnchat
09:28:44 pm mrch0mp3rs: @Schnicker I told you I'd be using "dogsbody." #lrnchat
09:28:45 pm LandDDave: Q3) sometimes I throw the plan out the window, roll up my sleeves, and dive headfirst into the learner pool. #lrnchat
09:28:59 pm nancyrubin: Q3) Create cohorts of learners who support each other. #lrnchat
09:29:04 pm Dave_Ferguson: People take at least 10 minutes' break per hour, whether you schedule it or not. #lrnchat
09:29:08 pm rebeccalcorn: @TriciaRansom How do you learn is always a question I ask in interviews. It helps me plan my training if we hire them. #lrnchat
09:29:13 pm kuriousmind: Q3 revulsion = revision, but there's somthing telling in that typo (repulsive designs) #Lrnchat
09:29:14 pm LearnNuggets: Ok, what is this dogsbody? RT @Schnicker: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Embrace the work of a dogsbody. Its details we skip that bite us in end #lrnchat
09:29:15 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @LandDDave: Q3) sometimes I throw the plan out the window, roll up my sleeves, and dive headfirst into the learner pool. #lrnchat
09:29:18 pm Dave_Ferguson: @mrch0mp3rs Try to avoid Dogsberry, though. #lrnchat
09:29:22 pm creatingchange: RT @LandDDave: Q3) sometimes I throw the plan out the window, roll up my sleeves, and dive headfirst into the learner pool. #lrnchat
09:29:23 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @nancyrubin: Q3) Create cohorts of learners who support each other. #lrnchat
09:29:28 pm jwillensky: @mrch0mp3rs Somebody has to add "dogsbody" to the drinking game rules. #lrnchat
09:29:28 pm billcush: RT @LandDDave: Q3) sometimes I throw the plan out the window, roll up my sleeves, and dive headfirst into the learner pool. #lrnchat
09:29:31 pm mrch0mp3rs: @kelly_smith01 Oh, wow, "Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?" #lrnchat
09:29:40 pm LandDDave: RT @mrch0mp3rs: @davidmcgraw @Callooh Good one — break out of your established patterns. Metacognition FTW #lrnchat
09:29:42 pm billcush: The Germans? RT @kelly_smith01: Q3 Remember from Animal House "It not over til WE say its over" #lrnchat
09:30:16 pm LearnNuggets: I don't even know what it is, but I agree! RT @jwillensky: @mrch0mp3rs Somebody has to add "dogsbody" to the drinking game rules. #lrnchat
09:30:55 pm LandDDave: RT @jwillensky: @mrch0mp3rs Somebody has to add "dogsbody" to the drinking game rules. #lrnchat
09:30:56 pm lrnchat: Q4) How do we build a "mindfulness" of the learning traps we fall into? How do stay open to change? #lrnchat
09:31:02 pm Schnicker: @LearnNuggets Ah its what I described myself as at the beginning http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogsbody #lrnchat
09:31:10 pm JoanVinallCox: @LearnNuggets dogsbody = someone who has to do the s**t work #lrnchat
09:31:12 pm TriciaRansom: @rebeccalcorn I like to ask "how does your team learn? WBT, webinar, lunch-n-learn, full-day ILT…" #lrnchat
09:31:17 pm Dave_Ferguson: Even if not doing instructor-led training, a wealth of good practice in B. Powers "Instructor Excellence." #lrnchat
09:31:18 pm Mary_a_Myers: dogs┬╖bod┬╖y (d├┤gz b d , d gz -). n. pl. dogs┬╖bod┬╖ies Chiefly British Slang One who does menial work; a drudge. #lrnchat
09:31:34 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do we build a "mindfulness" of the learning traps we fall into? How do stay open to change? #lrnchat
09:31:38 pm davidmcgraw: Never be afraid to admit you don't know what you don't know #lrnchat
09:31:43 pm IrisTopaz: @LearnNuggets @JaneBozarth "get a newbie to design" …and co-deliver… mentor, mentor, mentor. #lrnchat
09:31:45 pm LearnNuggets: @hamtra Going to DevLearn? Bring it and wear it for #lrnchat on location.
09:31:54 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do we build a "mindfulness" of the learning traps we fall into? How do stay open to change? #lrnchat
09:32:08 pm Dave_Ferguson: Dogsbody: see "stuckee" #lrnchat
09:32:19 pm stevekowal: RT @Dave_Ferguson: To sabotage learning, use training techniques for problems not caused by a gap in skill or knowledge. #lrnchat
09:32:31 pm Callooh: Q4) Create a metacognitive job aid for yourself #lrnchat
09:32:34 pm audioswhite: Q4) am I first to say – #lrnchat? #lrnchat
09:32:37 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do we build a "mindfulness" of the learning traps we fall into? How do stay open to change? #lrnchat
09:32:47 pm mrch0mp3rs: To avoid a trap, you have to recall what it feels like to be caught in one. If it feels like a trap, it's probably a trap. #lrnchat
09:32:52 pm Mary_a_Myers: q3) how to avoid traps? get active in the community of learning …do things like #lrnchat
09:32:55 pm creatingchange: Q4 @lrnchat Keep studying yourself. Feedback from others can cut out the opinions you have formed of your skill. #lrnchat
09:33:02 pm LearnNuggets: Holy Shitake Batman! That's me! RT @JoanVinallCox: dogsbody = someone who has to do the s**t work @mrch0mp3rs #lrnchat
09:33:21 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) I admint constantly that I'm learning…and learn from others. #lrnchat
09:33:25 pm kuriousmind: Q4 always ask for feedback and don't worry about credit … Focus on effectiveness #Lrnchat
09:33:26 pm Dave_Ferguson: Mindfulness: built time to reflect. Talk w/ smart people. Share when you're unsure. Track what you try. #lrnchat
09:33:41 pm billcush: Q4) Keeping learning…read books, articles, blogs, #lrnchat. The more we learn, the easier it is to keep changing. #lrnchat
09:33:43 pm jwillensky: Q4) Interaction like this helps keep one out of ruts. #lrnchat
09:33:45 pm Mary_a_Myers: q3) keep in mind that "clients are us" #lrnchat
09:33:51 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) I have no shame in "leveraging" good ideas (w/permission) from others! #lrnchat
09:34:00 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Callooh: Q4) Create a metacognitive job aid for yourself #lrnchat (Read Checklist Manifesto – I command you!!!!) #lrnchat
09:34:08 pm creatingchange: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Mindfulness: built time to reflect. Talk w/ smart people. Share when you're unsure. Track what you try. #lrnchat
09:34:22 pm LandDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do we build a "mindfulness" of the learning traps we fall into? How do stay open to change? #lrnchat
09:34:31 pm kuriousmind: RT @TriciaRansom: Q4) I admint constantly that Im learning…and learn from others. #Lrnchat
09:34:35 pm Dave_Ferguson: @JillBromen Alas, in corp/org learning, you get these forced marches across a body of knowledge. #lrnchat
09:34:37 pm jwillensky: RT @TriciaRansom: Q4) I have no shame in "leveraging" good ideas (w/permission) from others! <– Absolutely agree. #lrnchat
09:35:10 pm JoanVinallCox: @TriciaRansom Picasso (I think) – mediocre artist copy; great artists steal! #lrnchat
09:35:23 pm LearnNuggets: Seems the American equivalent is a "scutpuppy" RT @Dave_Ferguson: Dogsbody: see "stuckee" #lrnchat
09:35:28 pm Callooh: Q4) Look outside of your immediate industry to get imaginative ideas from others; find where design ideas converge #lrnchat
09:35:31 pm IrisTopaz: #lrnchat Q4 Surface assumptions, listen, set aside our own need to fix things and regularly give ourselves a wee shake…it's just a job!
09:35:43 pm kelly_smith01: @mrch0mp3rs Shhh. I am tweeting from a farm house in Manitoba . #lrnchat
09:35:46 pm JaneBozarth: q4 Honold, "Developing Employees Who Love to Learn", 2001-ish, Davies-Black. Still in print. #lrnchat
09:35:49 pm cammybean: @lrnchat Q4) Keep admitting you know nothing. Never get too cocky! #lrnchat
09:35:51 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) Get rid of the ego and be honestly open to suggestions from others…but know to filter their suggestions… #lrnchat
09:36:32 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Callooh: Q4) Look outside of your immediate industry to get imaginative ideas from others; #lrnchat (yes benchmark)
09:36:41 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @kelly_smith01: @mrch0mp3rs Shhh. I am tweeting from a farm house in Manitoba . <<< i like #lrnchat
09:36:44 pm TriciaRansom: @JoanVinallCox I think every single one of Shakespeare's plays were "re-writes" of existing ones. #lrnchat
09:36:46 pm LearnNuggets: Q4) "When the student is 'ready', the teacher will 'always' appear." Remain a student! #lrnchat
09:36:54 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @TriciaRansom: Q4) Get rid of the ego and be honestly open to suggestions from others…but know to filter their suggestions… #lrnchat
09:36:56 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @cammybean: @lrnchat Q4) Keep admitting you know nothing. Never get too cocky! #lrnchat
09:36:59 pm mrch0mp3rs: I ask people whose opinion I trust to be candid and critical with feedback so it's clear where I need to grow. I do that often. #lrnchat
09:37:04 pm JoanVinallCox: Q4, Listen to and accept former students praise #lrnchat
09:37:17 pm LandDDave: Q4) I actually don't mind falling into traps because I learn from it. It's falling into the same trap twice that's a problem. #lrnchat
09:37:18 pm oxala75: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q3. To avoid traps: Take pride in what we design. Stand up for what's effective, not convenient. #lrnchat
09:37:22 pm LearnNuggets: RT @TriciaRansom: Q4) Get rid of the ego and be honestly open to suggestions from others…but know to filter their suggestions… #lrnchat
09:37:44 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) Didn't famous philosopher or someone say something like "true wisdom is acknowledging you know nothing" #lrnchat
09:37:59 pm cammybean: @lrnchat Q4) and please don't take yourself too seriously. #lrnchat
09:38:18 pm minutebio: RT @LearnNuggets: RT @TriciaRansom: Q4) Get rid of the ego and be honestly open to suggestions from others…filter suggestions… #lrnchat
09:38:24 pm minutebio: RT @cammybean: @lrnchat Q4) and please dont take yourself too seriously. #lrnchat
09:38:25 pm ITJil: RT @JoanVinallCox: RT @Schnicker: Q2) Lazy – putting course material designed 4 offline in to an LMS to deliver to learners & expecting same results #lrnchat
09:38:26 pm LearnNuggets: RT @LandDDave: Q4) I actually dont mind falling into traps because I learn from it. Falling in the same trap twice thats a problem. #lrnchat
09:38:33 pm JaneBozarth: q4 I suggested to mgmt that on weekly reports we include 'what did you learn this week?" #lrnchat
09:38:34 pm ryantracey: @lrnchat Q4) Keep your eye on the real goal #lrnchat
09:38:36 pm kelly_smith01: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q3. To avoid traps: stop drinking your own Kool-Aid. we're all still learning here. #lrnchat
09:38:40 pm jwillensky: @TriciaRansom It was Socrates. #lrnchat
09:38:44 pm TriciaRansom: RT @oxala75: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q3. Take pride in what we design. Stand up for what's effective, not convenient. #lrnchat
09:38:55 pm cammybean: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q3. To avoid traps: Take pride in what we design. Stand up for whats effective, not convenient. <Such integrity! #lrnchat
09:39:05 pm Mary_a_Myers: q4) i share #lrnchat
09:39:17 pm mrch0mp3rs: Break bad habits like thinking that no one else has done what you're doing and, when you look, forget to look in non-usual haunts. #lrnchat
09:39:19 pm kuriousmind: RT @Callooh: Q4) Look outside of your immediate industry to get imaginative ideas from others; #lrnchat (yes benchmark) #Lrnchat
09:39:31 pm TriciaRansom: @jwillensky I remembered something from that mandatory Classic Mythology lecture course! #lrnchat
09:39:32 pm minutebio: RT @Mary_a_Myers: q4) i share #lrnchat
09:39:45 pm Dave_Ferguson: Prof development advice: If not for myself, who is for me? If for myself alone, who am I? If not now, when? (Hillel the Elder) #lrnchat
09:39:51 pm TriciaRansom: RT @Mary_a_Myers: q4) i share #lrnchat
09:40:14 pm minutebio: RT @kuriousmind: RT @Callooh: Look outside of your immediate industry to get imaginative ideas from others; #lrnchat
09:40:33 pm rebeccalcorn: @JaneBozarth What was management's response to your suggestion? #lrnchat
09:40:50 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) to build on @dave_ferguson: If you don't stand up for yourself and your beliefs, who will? #lrnchat
09:41:07 pm jwillensky: @TriciaRansom See, it's all worth something. Still haven't figured out what good a year of mechanical drawing did, though. #lrnchat
09:41:17 pm mrch0mp3rs: I blog my mistakes. I make them explicit so maybe I'll remember what the path looks and feels like. #lrnchat
09:41:20 pm moehlert: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do we build a "mindfulness" of the learning traps we fall into? How do stay open to change? #lrnchat
09:41:27 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @Dave_Ferguson: advice: If not for myself, who is for me? If for myself alone, who am I? If not now, when? (Hillel the Elder) #lrnchat
09:41:42 pm mrch0mp3rs: Mind the mental gap; avoid the trap. #lrnchat
09:41:50 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @TriciaRansom: Q4) to build on @dave_ferguson: If you dont stand up for yourself and your beliefs, who will? #lrnchat
09:41:55 pm Dave_Ferguson: @jwillensky I see your mechanical drawing and raise you 8 semester hours of calculus. #lrnchat
09:42:10 pm LandDDave: Q4) gotta be honest, if you're in L&D and you're not open to change as the default, something is wrong. #lrnchat
09:42:18 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) I try to take my own training whenever possible to see what I like/hate what works/doesn't. #lrnchat
09:42:23 pm moehlert: @lrnchat Q4) Mind like water http://bit.ly/cXLfeg #lrnchat
09:42:28 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @jwillensky I see your mechanical drawing and raise you 8 semester hours of calculus. LOL #lrnchat
09:42:34 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Mind the mental gap; avoid the trap. #lrnchat
09:42:43 pm IrisTopaz: My first time on lrnchat and now will share lrnchat. Org look out!@Mary_a_Myers q4) i share #lrnchat
09:42:52 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @jwillensky . < i raise you a year of hungarian language #lrnchat
09:42:57 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @moehlert: @lrnchat Q4) Mind like water http://bit.ly/cXLfeg #lrnchat
09:42:58 pm kuriousmind: Q4 it helps to love what you do… #Lrnchat
09:43:07 pm TriciaRansom: @LandDDave But we all know those of us who say "that's what we've always done" "why try something new, they're used to this…" #lrnchat
09:43:22 pm Dave_Ferguson: @LandDDave I agree, but lots of places still cling to Little Corporate Schoolhouse model. #lrnchat
09:43:27 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @IrisTopaz: My first time on lrnchat and now will share lrnchat. Org look out!@Mary_a_Myers q4) i share <<<right on!! #lrnchat
09:43:39 pm ryantracey: @lrnchat Q4) Take a moment to think #lrnchat
09:43:45 pm Callooh: Q4) Use the writer's mantra, if it doesn't serve the story get rid of it #lrnchat
09:43:46 pm LearnNuggets: Logical. Whooda thunk. RT @LandDDave: Q4) be honest, if youre in L&D & youre not open to change as the default, something is wrong. #lrnchat
09:43:53 pm JaneBozarth: q4 blog. #lrnchat
09:43:58 pm Dave_Ferguson: @Mary_a_Myers I will not buy this record. She is scratched. #lrnchat
09:44:10 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) My life long goal is to be a life learner and life-long learner. So I try to learn from everything. #lrnchat
09:44:16 pm Mary_a_Myers: q4) oh yeah…and i am not hungarian. eg├⌐szs├⌐gedre! #lrnchat
09:44:23 pm minutebio: RT @kuriousmind: Q4 it helps to love what you do… | Absolutely!! #lrnchat
09:44:24 pm LearnNuggets: Awesome! RT @IrisTopaz: My first time on lrnchat and now will share lrnchat. Org look out!@Mary_a_Myers q4) i share #lrnchat
09:44:42 pm TriciaRansom: @Mary_a_Myers You win. #lrnchat
09:45:02 pm cammybean: @lrnchat Q4) When revolution is not possible, be happy with incremental change. #lrnchat
09:45:05 pm Dave_Ferguson: @Mary_a_Myers A légpárnás hajóm tele van angolnákkal #lrnchat
09:45:12 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too. #lrnchat
09:45:13 pm mbr1online: Q4) Apply the golden rule to designing learning. #lrnchat
09:45:25 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @Mary_a_Myers I will not buy this record. She is scratched.<<explain this please? #lrnchat
09:45:26 pm LearnNuggets: I see a t-shirt design…😉 RT @KoreenOlbrish: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Mind the mental gap; avoid the trap. #lrnchat
09:45:40 pm LandDDave: RT @mrch0mp3rs: I blog my mistakes. I make them explicit so maybe I'll remember what the path looks and feels like. #lrnchat
09:45:58 pm mrch0mp3rs: @roninchef @moehlert @LearnNuggets @hybridkris There's a pretty cool Jimmy Fallon/Justin Timberlake video. And we're avoiding #fail #lrnchat
09:46:00 pm kelly_smith01: Q4) Blog, connect and contribute to SoMe, and block out Thur. night for #lrnchat
09:46:02 pm TriciaRansom: RT @mbr1online: Q4) Apply the golden rule to designing learning. #lrnchat <– YES
09:46:16 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @Mary_a_Myers A légpárnás hajóm tele van angolnákkal <<do i have a story for you!! #lrnchat
09:46:23 pm Dave_Ferguson: The most courageous act is still to think for yourself. Aloud. (Gabrielle Bonheur "Coco" Chanel) #lrnchat
09:46:32 pm JaneBozarth: RT @TriciaRansom: RT @mbr1online: Q4) Apply the golden rule to designing learning. #lrnchat sniffing out any interest in a learning-related podcast. Find out more here: http://beard.it/cPNRGC #lrnchat
09:49:33 pm jwillensky: Jason Willensky, learning consultant, Phoenix, AZ. Everything I know I learned from @cammybean. #lrnchat
09:49:33 pm ryantracey: @LandDDave You don’t blog? tsk tsk #lrnchat
09:49:39 pm roninchef: @mrch0mp3rs @moehlert @LearnNuggets @hybridkris The history of Hip Hop. Saw that at lunch. Good stuff. I need to get back to #lrnchat again
09:49:41 pm jonll: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @jwillensky I see your mech drawing & raise you 8 sem hrs of calculus. /See that & raise you a BS Struct Eng, #lrnchat
09:49:42 pm TriciaRansom: This is Tricia in Chicago. My shameless plug: If you hear of any work in Chi keep me in mind! #lrnchat
09:49:46 pm KoreenOlbrish: I’ll be at SIEGE in Atlanta this weekend running an ARG, speaking on a ARG/AR panel and checking out Nolan Bushnell! #geeked #lrnchat
09:49:58 pm LandDDave: Qwrap) time flies, and in this case it works well for me – only 25 minutes left till DC! #lrnchat
09:50:10 pm JaneBozarth: q4) Author, “Social Media for Trainers” , loving connections and connectivity #lrnchat
09:50:11 pm Schnicker: Qwrap) Nicole Fougere, the original Dogsbody (meant in the best poss way) & happy blogger at the Litmos LMS http://www.litmos.com #lrnchat
09:50:13 pm mbr1online: @moehlert Mark – I shared your concept of an SMN (Subject Matter Network) on a webinar on social learning -w/credit -they loved it! #lrnchat
09:50:16 pm Mary_a_Myers: Mary Myers, experimenting with learning in ontario, trying to find more hours in the day. love learning and love #lrnchat
09:50:30 pm JaneBozarth: PS but I do not suffer fools gladly. Not at all. #lrnchat
09:50:33 pm LearnNuggets: Qwrap) Kevin – aka: NuggetHead. Off to do artsy stuff now. #lrnchat
09:50:37 pm Dave_Ferguson: Dave Ferguson; corp/org learning & performance improvement; wry analogies; very fortunate in my prof. contacts this week. #lrnchat
09:50:52 pm JoanVinallCox: from Oakville, ON, Shameless boast – former student tweeted he was glad he’d taken my presentations course after presenting 4 work #lrnchat
09:50:59 pm LandDDave: @LearnNuggets not bad… I’ll give you credit if I use that!🙂 #lrnchat
09:51:06 pm rebeccalcorn: @LandDDave I’m glad that I’m not the only one without a blog! #lrnchat
09:51:16 pm mrch0mp3rs: Also, if anyone’s in Chicago and wants to go to a White Sox game with me tomorrow night, I have an extra ticket. D me. #lrnchat
09:51:17 pm kuriousmind: = LM …Another carbon-based ID4DL #Lrnchat
09:51:20 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman – eLearning Designer in Baltimore #lrnchat
09:51:26 pm Dave_Ferguson: @jonll When you’ve got a free 2 hours, I can explain first 7 lines of the Iliad… #lrnchat
09:51:51 pm mrch0mp3rs: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @jonll When youve got a free 2 hours, I can explain first 7 lines of the Iliad… #lrnchat
09:51:59 pm Dave_Ferguson: @rebeccalcorn Like a car, a blog isn’t essential, but you’ll surprised where you can get to with the right vehicle. #lrnchat
09:51:59 pm TriciaRansom: @mrch0mp3rs Go Cubs!! #lrnchat
09:52:15 pm hybridkris: (Shameless Plug) Also, if you’re around Oxford, UK on Oct 15th I’m speaking at FutureText. http://bit.ly/cilgql #lrnchat
09:52:41 pm IrisTopaz: #lrnchat My name is Colleen and I am but a humble L & D plebeian to many wise (oft speedy) twearning & twevelopment gurus. Phew some ride!
09:52:42 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @hybridkris: (Shameless Plug) Also, if youre around Oxford, UK on Oct 15th Im speaking at FutureText. http://bit.ly/cilgql #lrnchat
09:52:46 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @jonll When youve got a free 2 hours, I can explain first 7 lines of the Iliad… Anglo-Saxon? #lrnchat
09:52:53 pm mrch0mp3rs: RT @hybridkris: (Shameless Plug) Also, if youre around Oxford, UK on Oct 15th Im speaking at FutureText. http://bit.ly/cilgql #lrnchat
09:52:57 pm creatingchange: Whoops. 4got #lrnchat Karen Dempster Vic,AU. Strategic Foresight (futurist) Creativity Write/Design Facilitate, many other Projects.
09:53:04 pm ryantracey: Thanks for another good #lrnchat, especially @Schnicker @minutebio @JoanVinallCox @LandDDave
09:53:09 pm LandDDave: Qwrap) thanks for another great chat all. David Kelly, training director from NYC on his way to #ASTDALC. #lrnchat
09:53:13 pm mbr1online: Marty Rosenheck, designer, writer, speaker, thinker on learning and cognition – just signed up for #devlearn hope to see many there #lrnchat
09:53:24 pm TriciaRansom: @mrch0mp3rs My hubby is a White Sox fan? #lrnchat
09:53:41 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Embrace the work of a dogsbody. It’s the details we skip that bite us in the end. #lrnchat
09:53:59 pm mrch0mp3rs: Thank you all for a great #lrnchat. Looking forward to seeing many of you at #DevLearn next month. Anyone going to #COINS2010? #lrnchat
09:54:14 pm Dave_Ferguson: @JoanVinallCox Sign up for my workshop “The Iliad: It’s Greek to Me” #lrnchat
09:54:14 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @ryantracey: Thanks for another good #lrnchat, especially @Schnicker @minutebio @JoanVinallCox @LandDDave- art of re-tweeting #lrnchat
09:54:19 pm LandDDave: @JaneBozarth you’d love the fool sitting behind me on the train… “literally, you would.” #lrnchat
09:54:39 pm Dave_Ferguson: @IrisTopaz Plebians are lots more fun at parties. #lrnchat
09:55:05 pm mrch0mp3rs: He’ll be here all week. Plz tip your waitresses > RT @Dave_Ferguson: Sign up for my workshop “The Iliad: Its Greek to Me” #lrnchat
09:55:05 pm LandDDave: @rebeccalcorn give it a week and they’ll be one less. #lrnchat
09:55:16 pm moehlert: @mbr1online Wow. Thx! I really appreciate it. #lrnchat
09:57:14 pm bschlenker: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Thank you all for a great #lrnchat. Looking forward to seeing many of you at #DevLearn next month. Anyone going to #COINS2010? #lrnchat
09:58:18 pm Mary_a_Myers: still can’t believe i won’t be at #devlearn … it looks so good! #lrnchat
09:58:23 pm lrnchat: Thank you for joining us on #lrnchat. Pls invite others next week & tell us if you blog about the conversation. http://lrnchat.com

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