Transcript 30-September 2010 (early)

10:31:45 am lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been? Q0 warm up after the rules.
10:32:02 am nealschaffer: Yes! RT @jenisecook: U may want to follow #LavaCon – seeing great #SoMe tweets #mlearncon #dl10 #elearning #articulate #astd #lrnchat
10:32:27 am kelly_smith01: Good morning #lrnchat Tweeple. #lrnchat
10:32:31 am lrnchat: Rule2. [try to] stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 20 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
10:32:51 am jaycross: Jay Cross, outside Berlin today, interested in Kompetenz, headed out to supper in 20 minutes. Let’s get rolling. Aber schnell. #lrnchat
10:32:58 am hjarche: Harold Jarche: fusing learning & working in networked organizations; also hanging out w/ @jaycross in Potsdam this week #lrnchat
10:33:25 am lrnchat: Rule3. When writing, complete thoughts help followers outside chat learn from you. #lrnchat
10:33:34 am kelly_smith01: Q0) Waiting for FedEx to deliver an important package with papers #lrnchat
10:33:36 am MichelleLavoie: #lrnchat here we go
10:34:30 am lrnchat: Rule4. Remember to include the #lrnchat in all posts. http://tweetchat.com http://tweetgrid.com & http://twubs.com work well
10:34:41 am TerrenceWing: @kelly_smith01 Is it an iPad? with instructions #lrnchat
10:34:42 am daviddlacroix: David D. LaCroix, learning specialist and recovering academic in DC http://linkd.in/bBqkdl #lrnchat
10:34:44 am briandusablon: Brian Dusablon, Performance Consultant, Kingwood, TX (Houston). Learning ninja. Busy with content governance strategy for org. #lrnchat
10:34:52 am dtssmithers: Travis Smith, Atlanta, Instructional Design/Project Mgmt, informal learning, SoMe #lrnchat
10:35:00 am myFootpath: Lots of tweets coming for #lrnchat! RT @DavidDLaCroix #lrnchat ist hier. Wach auf!
10:35:08 am briandusablon: Q0) Was almost late, watching this funny vid on freelancing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gojvVmGJut4&feature=youtu.be #lrnchat
10:35:21 am ckagy: Chris Kagy: washington, dc, trainer, manager, designer #lrnchat
10:35:35 am lrnchat: Rule5. Periodically RT questions so others outside #lrnchat know what you’re talking about so they can chime in too.
10:35:44 am techherding: @hjarche I’ve been a “learning problem” for 55 years. #lrnchat
10:35:51 am mrch0mp3rs: Good morning, everybody. Aaron Silvers, Chicago, IL – helping out with the unity in the community. #lrnchat
10:36:03 am MichelleLavoie: Michelle Lavoie, Community Manaager, Massacusetts, USA; learning via collaboration #lrnchat
10:36:08 am BrightTweet: Are you following #lrnchat this afternoon?
10:36:14 am dbolen: Don Bolen, Atlanta, GA, learning strategist, PM, wary of traps #lrnchat
10:36:22 am lrnchat: Rule6. On #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm & irony welcome though. Really
10:36:24 am eshwaranv: Late… But here. Vytheeshwaran Vedagiri, science teacher from Chennai, India #lrnchat
10:36:38 am briandusablon: @mrch0mp3rs nice. More rap lyrics for your album. #lrnchat
10:36:41 am dbolen: @dtssmithers Hiya Travis, I’m ATL too! #lrnchat
10:36:49 am JamesMcLuckie: Q0) James from Edinburgh, manager of @EdenTreeToolkit, work for @goodpractice. #lrnchat
10:36:52 am myFootpath: RT @lrnchat Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been? Q0 warm up after the rules. #lrnchat
10:37:00 am techherding: Dick Carlson, sunning myself in SC, Learning Designer, troublemaker, herder of technical cats at www.TechHerding.com #lrnchat
10:37:01 am onsSara: Sara Stuever, Pittsburgh, PA, project mgr, nursing education #lrnchat
10:37:02 am CoCreatr: RT @hjarche: Learning trap: thinking that there’s such a thing as a learning problem #lrnchat
10:37:11 am kelly_smith01: @TerrenceWing Job application pack – which is a pre-iPad purchase plan #lrnchat
10:37:24 am mrch0mp3rs: @briandusablon Me and Kanye. It’ll happen. #lrnchat
10:37:26 am tonya_simmons: Tonya Goth Simmons, project developer, Phasient Learning Technologies, Ames IA #lrnchat
10:37:33 am myFootpath: Q0: Noel for myFootpath, a career/education resource for students of all ages #lrnchat
10:37:34 am lrnchat: Rule7. 10 min before the end of #lrnchat, reintroduce yourself. Links, requests, & shameless plugs welcome, too.
10:37:43 am Tina_Barr: #lrnchat time! I will be participating as much as possible while finishing project de jour!
10:37:45 am mpalko: Rain-soaked Raleigh / Durham NC. Training, community manager, low tolerance for mediocrity #lrnchat
10:37:48 am TerrenceWing: @kelly_smith01 Good luck! #lrnchat
10:37:50 am sifowler: Simon Fowler, R&D, Forum Corp, brilliant multi-tasker. It’s simple, you just focu… what? yeh, sure I can help you with that. #lrnchat
10:38:17 am LearnTribe: #lrnchat intro – Gordon McLeod, Scotland, Learning Technologist & advocate for trying new things
10:38:25 am lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
10:38:45 am sifowler: In and out of convo today though, I’m filming my CEO wearing a grass skirt. No, really. #lrnchat
10:38:47 am Fredaunis: RT @hjarche: Harold Jarche: fusing learning & working in networked organizations; also hanging out w/ @jaycross in Potsdam this week #lrnchat
10:38:48 am cpjobling: Chris Jobling, university teacher, Swansea UK. Interested in improving the learning experiences of our students. #lrnchat
10:39:06 am tonya_simmons: Q0) Learned this morning that the salted caramel mocha from Starbucks is evil temptation in a cup #lrnchat
10:39:07 am StephanieDaul: Stephanie Daul, Instructional Designer, Chicago, trying to figure out how to spend the R&D budget #lrnchat
10:39:24 am myFootpath: Q0: This week I learned more about the #newtwitter, which I’m loving! #lrnchat
10:39:24 am hjarche: RT @techherding: @hjarche I’ve been a “learning problem” for 55 years. #lrnchat
10:39:25 am theteachinggame: #lrnchat Katie Hellerman, Mobile teacher Coach for new and struggling teachers, Costa Rica
10:39:25 am TerrenceWing: Did I hear YouTube? RT @sifowler, Im filming my CEO wearing a grass skirt. No, really. #lrnchat
10:39:32 am ckagy: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
10:39:34 am eshwaranv: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
10:39:34 am cpjobling: Q0) Learned in #plenk2010 that there is a role for a discussion board. #lrnchat
10:39:36 am drukid: I’m gonna be on #lrnchat for a few…for my non-education/tech followers, forgive me:( #lrnchat
10:39:40 am daviddlacroix: Q0: Learned that sometimes good things come at the last minute. #lrnchat
10:39:43 am drukid: Dru Kid/Univ of the District of Columbia/Center for Academic Technology #lrnchat
10:39:49 am jaycross: Learned that Euros still smoking up a storm. Counter-balanced by eating right. #lrnchat
10:39:49 am briandusablon: Q0) I’ve learned from @mpalko, @mrch0mp3rs, @stephaniedaul @LandDDave about what they’re doing with technology and communities. #lrnchat
10:39:52 am urbie: ##lrnchat urbie delgado, instructional designer, washington, d.c., focus: re-humanizing elearning
10:39:54 am mpalko: I learned that I’m OK with “That’s the best we can do” but “It’s good enough” irritates the %^&* out of me #lrnchat
10:40:08 am TerrenceWing: Terrence Wing – Los Angeles – Leadership and Management development at Liquid Learn #lrnchat
10:40:11 am briandusablon: Q0) And that everyone, every company seems to be at a different stage. #lrnchat
10:40:17 am myFootpath: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week? #lrnchat
10:40:25 am kelly_smith01: RT Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week? #lrnchat
10:40:26 am JffZllr: Jeff Zoller, Learning Consultant in Columbus OH #lrnchat
10:40:29 am eshwaranv: Q0) New tweaks with PowerPoint to make engaging presentations. Also, never to forget winter clothes while visiting hill stations! #lrnchat
10:40:31 am mrch0mp3rs: What he said > RT @mpalko: I learned that Im OK with “Thats the best we can do” but “Its good enough” irritates the %^&* out of me #lrnchat
10:40:35 am urbie: #lrnchat Q0 sadly, i learned that Tony Curtis died yesterday; i also learned that a cotton hoody is a poor substitute for a nylon umbrella..
10:40:38 am ckagy: Q0) I’ve learned that my interest in online learning is shared by senior management #lrnchat
10:40:45 am Tina_Barr: #lrnchat I have learned this week that persistence pays off and new MA law is in effect today (no texting while driving)
10:41:15 am techherding: Q0: I learned how to use gestures while speaking from @storyteller http://is.gd/fCnUq #lrnchat
10:41:25 am theteachinggame: #lrnchat Q0) I learned that success in life IS measured by the # uncomfortable phone calls you make
10:41:26 am JamesMcLuckie: QO) I have learned that Lynda.com can be something of a saviour when software packages start playing up. #lrnchat
10:41:28 am hybridkris: @onsSara WHOA! Another Pittsbugher on lrnchat!
10:41:32 am myFootpath: That’s great! RT @ckagy I’ve learned that my interest in online learning is shared by senior management #lrnchat
10:41:42 am dtssmithers: Q0, surprised by how disconnected my new company is with SoMe within the org. #lrnchat
10:41:44 am MichelleLavoie: Learned that prezi is a very cool alternative to PPT #lrnchat
10:42:05 am daviddlacroix: upside/downside? –> RT @ckagy: Q0) Ive learned that my interest in online learning is shared by senior management #lrnchat
10:42:08 am JffZllr: RT @theteachinggame: #lrnchat Q0) I learned that success in life IS measured by the # uncomfortable phone calls you make
10:42:11 am myFootpath: Me too! From #careerchat? @MichelleLavoie Learned that prezi is a very cool alternative to PPT #lrnchat
10:42:19 am dtssmithers: Q0, it seems to be a trend to allow LinkedIn but not the other social sites within large Corp. America. #lrnchat
10:42:20 am tonya_simmons: @Tina_Barr well yay, texting while driving is bad, but I can’t believe you even have to tell ppl that much less make it illegal #lrnchat
10:42:21 am briandusablon: Pretty common, it seems > RT @dtssmithers: Q0, surprised by how disconnected my new company is with SoMe within the org. #lrnchat
10:42:36 am WheelNZ: Q0) #lrnchat learned that “actually” is the new “like” – “blah blah blah” word filler
10:42:41 am onsSara: Q0) I’ve learned/had reinforced that PhD teacher doesn’t always equal good teacher #lrnchat
10:42:42 am StephanieDaul: <not the only org out there> RT @dtssmithers: Q0, surprised by how disconnected my new company is with SoMe within the org. #lrnchat
10:42:45 am JffZllr: Q0) Some people will never understand or accept SoMe. #lrnchat
10:42:47 am hjarche: I learned new term today: “causal ambiguity” (downloaded a PDF to learn more) http://works.bepress.com/michael_ryall/10/ #lrnchat
10:43:11 am daviddlacroix: Will aim to remember this: RT @theteachinggame: #lrnchat Q0) success in life IS measured by # uncomfortable phone calls you make #lrnchat
10:43:33 am drukid: Q0) I learned Blackboard’s implementation of rubrics needs to be reworked. #lrnchat
10:43:45 am siavogel: RT @techherding @hjarche I’ve been a “learning problem” for 55 years. #lrnchat Like this and recognise!!! And still “being there” …
10:43:46 am mpalko: Hoping @JffZllr & @ theteachinggame never call me😉 #lrnchat
10:43:51 am moehlert: Hey #lrnchat – Mark Oehlert here from outside Washington DC – trying the early session on.. TRAP LEARNING ADDIE😉
10:43:53 am theteachinggame: @JffZllr Although most of time I’m praying for voicemail🙂 #lrnchat
10:43:55 am techherding: RT @onsSara: Q0) I’ve learned/had reinforced that PhD teacher doesn’t always equal good teacher #lrnchat <<yuppers
10:44:19 am ckagy: RT @daviddlacroix: upside/downside? –> RT @ckagy: Q0) Ive learned … I have to step up! it’s both #lrnchat
10:44:20 am mrch0mp3rs: @hjarche That just inspired a brand new term: “ambient casualness” You barely recognize how casual it is until you look around. #lrnchat
10:44:25 am WDYWFT: Q0) That I can create (pretty?) flash buttons and then save them as .gifs, so they show up on the ipad/phone (and still flash!) #lrnchat
10:44:31 am 2GFred: Fred Stevens. Los Angeles. Passionate about learning / sharing. Joining #lrnchat this morning. #lrnchat
10:44:46 am mrch0mp3rs: @moehlert No stacking the deck! #lrnchat
10:45:10 am TerrenceWing: @2GFred Hey Fred! Glad to see you this AM. #lrnchat
10:45:15 am rebeccafrazee: @lrnchat Q0) Just lead a class session on social media in the workplace. Now I’m eating my own dogfood by starting to Tweet…
10:45:24 am TerrenceWing: RT @mrch0mp3rs: @moehlert No stacking the deck! #lrnchat
10:45:24 am daviddlacroix: @ckagy Seemed like it might cut two ways like that.🙂 #lrnchat
10:45:28 am kelly_smith01: RT @WheelNZ: Q0) Also “actual” as in “This is the actual coat Lincoln wore at Gettysburg. #lrnchat
10:45:31 am lrnchat: Q1) If you really wanted to sabotage learning, how would you do it? #lrnchat
10:45:31 am WDYWFT: RT @lrnchat: #lrnchat today at 11:30ET, 4:30BT — today’s topic? Learning Traps.
10:45:34 am techherding: @moehlert Trapping the wild ADDIE is not for the faint of heart. Here in SC they sometimes run over 400 pounds. #lrnchat
10:45:47 am sifowler: @TerrenceWing youtube, yes … first film is this (he’s in the first scene), http://youtu.be/SCMkrOjXm54 #lrnchat
10:46:01 am eshwaranv: RT @lrnchat: Q1) If you really wanted to sabotage learning, how would you do it? #lrnchat
10:46:06 am myFootpath: RT @lrnchat Q1) If you really wanted to sabotage learning, how would you do it? #lrnchat #lrnchat
10:46:08 am Tina_Barr: RT @lrnchat: Q1) If you really wanted to sabotage learning, how would you do it? #lrnchat
10:46:13 am mrch0mp3rs: MUHAHAHAHAHA > RT @lrnchat: Q1) If you really wanted to sabotage learning, how would you do it? #lrnchat
10:46:18 am moehlert: #lrnchat Q0) I’ve learned that largely generational diffs to tech is bunk and resistance to SoMe is really based on fear, control & trust
10:46:26 am ckagy: RT @lrnchat: Q1) If you really wanted to sabotage learning, how would you do it? #lrnchat
10:46:26 am mpalko: Passion.. love it RT @2GFred: Fred Stevens. Los Angeles. Passionate about learning / sharing. Joining #lrnchat this morning. #lrnchat
10:46:28 am dbolen: RT @lrnchat: Q1) If you really wanted to sabotage learning, how would you do it? #lrnchat
10:46:36 am daviddlacroix: Still, it can be done/found. — RT @techherding: RT @onsSara: Q0) PhD teacher doesnt always equal good teacher #lrnchat <<yuppers #lrnchat
10:46:36 am sifowler: RT @lrnchat: Q1) If you really wanted to sabotage learning, how would you do it? #lrnchat
10:46:37 am briandusablon: Q1) Better question for management, isn’t it?🙂 #lrnchat
10:46:40 am WDYWFT: RT @mrch0mp3rs: MUHAHAHAHAHA > RT @lrnchat: Q1) If you really wanted to sabotage learning, how would you do it? #lrnchat
10:46:42 am myFootpath: Q1: Preventing people from expressing and sharing ideas. Preventing the exchange of information. #lrnchat
10:46:45 am LearnTribe: q0) that I can’t use a ‘teachers voice’ in a hot room for 5 hours without starting to lose it #lrnchat
10:46:47 am JamesMcLuckie: Q1. Hand out a learning styles questionnaire at the start. #lrnchat
10:46:55 am mrch0mp3rs: RT @briandusablon: Q1) Better question for management, isnt it?🙂 #lrnchat
10:46:57 am daviddlacroix: RT @lrnchat: Q1) If you really wanted to sabotage learning, how would you do it? #lrnchat
10:47:00 am drukid: RT @dbolen: RT @lrnchat: Q1) If you really wanted to sabotage learning, how would you do it? #lrnchat
10:47:04 am onsSara: RT @lrnchat: Q1) If you really wanted to sabotage learning, how would you do it? #lrnchat
10:47:04 am tonya_simmons: Q1) have the narrator read EXACTLY what’s on the elearning screen for the entire course #lrnchat
10:47:12 am briandusablon: Q1) Lock down the web. #lrnchat
10:47:12 am oxala75: craig wiggins, e-learning jockey. checking in from a rather rainy Rosslyn, VA. #lrnchat
10:47:16 am eshwaranv: Q1) Excavate some of my PPTs which I had prepared a year back and force it on my class. #lrnchat
10:47:25 am techherding: Q1) I’d start every session with a list of seven rules before they even got started. That would ruin learning, I bet. #lrnchat
10:47:27 am kelly_smith01: RT @JamesMcLuckie: Q1. Hand out a learning styles questionnaire at the start. #lrnchat
10:47:30 am LearnTribe: RT @lrnchat: Q1) If you really wanted to sabotage learning, how would you do it? #lrnchat
10:47:34 am MichelleLavoie: Q1 ) I’d keep on delivering training in classroom, lecture style #lrnchat
10:47:34 am jaycross: Q1) I’d give hour-long, impersonal lectures in classrooms on irrelevant topics… #lrnchat
10:47:43 am ckagy: Q1) Misinterpret desired objectives #lrnchat
10:47:46 am TerrenceWing: Q1) Consider your evaluation after you complete the training #lrnchat
10:47:50 am drukid: Q1) Refuse to have discussions with your students about WHY/HOW/WHAT they are learning. Too much 13th grade ish going on! #lrnchat
10:47:51 am LandDDave: Greetings #lrnchat! I’ve got a little time before I head out to travel to #ASTDALC, so I thought I’d drop into #lrnchat
10:47:59 am myFootpath: Q1: All talk, no discussion. Learning has to be a two-way street. #lrnchat
10:48:03 am mpalko: Q1) be a knowledge hoarder #lrnchat
10:48:09 am Tina_Barr: Q1) #lrnchat self-fulfilled prophecy can cause you to sabotage yourself. You do not think you will succeed therefore you do not
10:48:11 am dbolen: q1 here’s your list of mandatory courses in the LMS #lrnchat
10:48:16 am LandDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q1) If you really wanted to sabotage learning, how would you do it? #lrnchat
10:48:18 am TerrenceWing: @LandDDave Hey Dave #lrnchat
10:48:22 am briandusablon: Q1) Develop training without knowing why you’re doing it. #lrnchat
10:48:24 am kelly_smith01: Q1) Specify length of learning unit before process begins #lrnchat
10:48:29 am lress: #lrnchat Q1 what to do to sabotage learning? Never answer participants questions
10:48:36 am onsSara: @techherding I’m reaching for towel for sprayed coffee #lrnchat
10:48:36 am Tina_Barr: @jaycross definately! That can help students take a nice, long nap! #lrnchat
10:48:44 am daviddlacroix: Q1) Heat: high. Lights: low. #lrnchat
10:48:44 am Biz_Ferris: Q0) Biz, Instructional Designer, Miami, FL- working on a presentation on Technology’s role in curriculum #lrnchat
10:48:49 am LandDDave: @TerrenceWing Greetings sir! #lrnchat
10:48:53 am theteachinggame: #lrnchat Q1) Best way to sabotage learning is negative self talk: “I’ll never be able to”… ” “I’m too old”… “‘I’m too fat.”
10:48:56 am eshwaranv: Q1) Having blind misconceptions with respect to SoMes and their consequent misuse. #lrnchat
10:49:01 am 2GFred: RT @lrnchat: Q1) If you really wanted to sabotage learning, how would you do it? #lrnchat
10:49:01 am briggzay: Q1) To sabotage learning, i would give people linear steps to solve non-linear problems. #lrnchat
10:49:08 am MichelleLavoie: Q1) Teach in silos (math, science, english) without any integrative projects #lrnchat
10:49:11 am Tina_Barr: @lress or never let them ask questions! #lrnchat
10:49:12 am myFootpath: RT @Tina_Barr Q1 self-fulfilled prophecy can cause you to sabotage yourself. You do not think you will succeed therefore you don’t #lrnchat
10:49:12 am sifowler: Q1) call that thing that you’re doing ‘learning’ so they don’t think they’re learning the rest of the time #lrnchat
10:49:14 am mpalko: ha! RT @daviddlacroix: Q1) Heat: high. Lights: low. #lrnchat
10:49:19 am 2GFred: RT @theteachinggame: #lrnchat Q1) Best way to sabotage learning is negative self talk: “Ill never be able to”… #lrnchat
10:49:22 am drukid: Q1) Forget to change the date on your PPTs from 2003 to 2010 and post them online. #lrnchat
10:49:25 am kelly_smith01: Q1) Re-reading a book on “icebreakers” before designing or delivering learning event. #lrnchat
10:49:27 am c4lpt: RT: @lrnchat: Q1) If you really wanted to sabotage learning, how would you do it? #lrnchat
10:49:27 am JffZllr: Q1) Foster an unhealthy, competitive ‘me’ culture. (vs. open, collaborative) #lrnchat
10:49:28 am daviddlacroix: Q1) Ask “What’s in it for me?” #lrnchat
10:49:29 am fredsheahan: Jumping in to #lrnchat right now – Fred Sheahan, learning consultant from Minneapolis. Great topic on Learning Traps. Join in!
10:49:30 am sifowler: nice! RT @briggzay: Q1) To sabotage learning, i would give people linear steps to solve non-linear problems. #lrnchat
10:49:39 am eshwaranv: RT @Tina_Barr: @lress or never let them ask questions! #lrnchat
10:49:42 am dtssmithers: Q1, Death by PowerPoint times 10! Horrific graphics, lots of text, long lectures full of useless stats, etc. #lrnchat
10:49:43 am Biz_Ferris: Q1: Death by powerpoint #lrnchat
10:49:50 am briandusablon: Q1) Sabotage learning: create more silos, keep groups from talking to each other, sharing knowledge. Have no controls over content. #lrnchat
10:49:52 am ckagy: Q1) Stick to the script, talk a lot, and 2 minutes before the end ask if there are any questions. #lrnchat
10:49:54 am TerrenceWing: Q1: Put a lot of value on a $99 public canned course and expect ROI (from certain vendors that we all know) #lrnchat
10:50:04 am eshwaranv: RT @daviddlacroix: Q1) Ask “What’s in it for me?” #lrnchat
10:50:05 am drukid: Q1) Don’t link professional skills with classroom learning. #lrnchat
10:50:05 am c4lpt: RT: @briandusablon: Q1) Lock down the web. #lrnchat <Exactly!
10:50:12 am myFootpath: @MichelleLavoie Q! Agreed. Working in silos prohibits learning in the workplace too. Cross-training is so important. #lrnchat
10:50:24 am LandDDave: Q1) I would sabatoge learning by not bothering to inform learners why they should care about the learning. #lrnchat
10:50:28 am TerrenceWing: Q1) Lecture all day. Aaaargh #lrnchat
10:50:30 am eshwaranv: Amen… One of the best methods! –> RT @Biz_Ferris: Q1: Death by powerpoint #lrnchat
10:50:34 am sifowler: but there’s healthy competitive learning, right? RT @JffZllr Q1) Foster unhealthy, competitive me culture (vs. open, collaborative) #lrnchat
10:50:35 am JffZllr: RT @c4lpt: RT: @briandusablon: Q1) Lock down the web. #lrnchat <Exactly!
10:50:47 am drukid: @eshwaranv SoMes? What’s that? #lrnchat
10:51:00 am daviddlacroix: Q1) Define your audience too narrowly. #lrnchat
10:51:05 am myFootpath: Q1: Not applying knowledge to the bigger picture; only using it for the immediate task at hand. #lrnchat
10:51:05 am TerrenceWing: Q1 Tell everyone that cellphones are not allowed and turn off computers #lrnchat
10:51:10 am mpalko: @Biz_Ferris PowerPoint doesn’t bore people. People bore people. #lrnchat
10:51:10 am moehlert: RT @lrnchat: Q1) If you really wanted to sabotage learning, how would you do it? #lrnchat
10:51:12 am kelly_smith01: Q1) Spending time designing multiple-choice, matching, and short answer questions for e-learning (or almost any learning) #lrnchat
10:51:16 am drukid: RT @c4lpt: RT: @briandusablon: Q1) Lock down the web. #lrnchat <– True dat! #lrnchat
10:51:20 am oxala75: Q1) prevent instructional designers from getting involved until WAY after mgmt & stakeholders have decided what they are going 2 do #lrnchat
10:51:27 am 2GFred: Q1) Sabatoge learning: be closed minded to change. #lrnchat
10:51:29 am TerrenceWing: RT @c4lpt: RT: @briandusablon: Q1) Lock down the web. #lrnchat <Exactly! #lrnchat
10:51:32 am eshwaranv: @drukid Sorry… That was a typo. It’s SoMe (social media) #lrnchat
10:51:32 am tonya_simmons: Q1) and maybe include a little beep at the end of each page/slide to cue hitting the next button #lrnchat
10:51:34 am dtssmithers: Q1, Read a script with head down = sabotage learning #lrnchat
10:51:36 am ggheorghiu: Is it about learning management? RT @BrightTweet: Are you following #lrnchat this afternoon?
10:51:39 am daviddlacroix: Ends up sabotaging your own learning, too! –> RT @TerrenceWing: Q1) Lecture all day. Aaaargh #lrnchat
10:51:47 am LandDDave: Q1) I’d sabotage learning by knocking on the door of IT and asking for their assistance in a learning project. #lrnchat
10:51:52 am briandusablon: @daviddlacroix or fail to define your audience at all. Q1) #lrnchat
10:52:07 am tonya_simmons: q1) and end with a multiple choice test that the learner could have done well on before even taking the course #lrnchat
10:52:09 am mpalko: RT @LandDDave: Q1) Id sabotage learning by knocking on the door of IT and asking for their assistance in a learning project. #lrnchat
10:52:12 am briandusablon: Ha! > RT @LandDDave: Q1) Id sabotage learning by knocking on the door of IT and asking for their assistance in a learning project. #lrnchat
10:52:13 am LearnTribe: q1) Let someone with no experience of teaching schedule lessons / pull students out of class without asking why they’re there #lrnchat
10:52:14 am chet_stevenson: Q1) Ignore learner needs and proceed with my own agenda #lrnchat
10:52:18 am JffZllr: @sifowler – Yes there is healthy competition too (hopefully), but sometimes ppl fail to play nicely together #lrnchat
10:52:19 am fredsheahan: RT @lrnchat: Q1) If you really wanted to sabotage learning, how would you do it? #lrnchat
10:52:27 am sifowler: Q1) endlessly question but don’t act #lrnchat
10:52:29 am moehlert: @techherding #lrnchat I don’t trap ’em. I shoot ’em and put their heads on stakes as warnings to others.
10:52:36 am 2GFred: Q1) Way to prevent learning: Don’t believe in your students ability to learn. #lrnchat
10:52:49 am daviddlacroix: RT @sifowler: Q1) endlessly question but dont act #lrnchat
10:52:50 am oxala75: Q1) oh, i’d have huge amounts of text on screen and then equally long narration that totally didn’t match the text…. #lrnchat
10:52:59 am simbeckhampson: RT @hjarche: I learned new term today: “causal ambiguity” (PDF) http://works.bepress.com/michael_ryall/10/ #lrnchat
10:53:01 am TerrenceWing: Q1) Subscribe to boredom and avoid engagement #lrnchat
10:53:05 am moehlert: @lrnchat Q1) How about just not try? How about just not care? How about just phone it in?
10:53:07 am LearnTribe: RT @myFootpath: Q1: Preventing people from expressing and sharing ideas. Preventing the exchange of information. #lrnchat >like it
10:53:07 am kelly_smith01: Q1) Limited simulated or real-time practice during learning event. #lrnchat
10:53:11 am TerrenceWing: RT @2GFred: Q1) Way to prevent learning: Dont believe in your students ability to learn. #lrnchat
10:53:12 am simbeckhampson: Joining late, apologies… #lrnchat
10:53:12 am oxala75: Q1) …and pair all that with super distracting and inappropriate animation. #lrnchat
10:53:16 am Mark_Glanville: Q1. Force people to do it #lrnchat
10:53:19 am briandusablon: Q1) Skip the analysis. #lrnchat
10:53:35 am dtssmithers: Q1, To sabotage lrng, I would create an environment where there is absolutely no interaction/collaboration. #lrnchat
10:53:46 am myFootpath: RT @2GFred Q1) Way to prevent learning: Don’t believe in your students ability to learn. >> and assume you know their limits #lrnchat
10:53:46 am ckagy: Q1) get the wrong people in teh right class #lrnchat
10:53:54 am StephanieDaul: RT @briandusablon: Q1) Skip the analysis. <or get stuck in the analysis> #lrnchat
10:53:56 am moehlert: @hjarche #lrnchat Can I pay continuous partial attention to casual ambiguity?
10:54:06 am daviddlacroix: Too true…. –> RT @briandusablon: @daviddlacroix or fail to define your audience at all. Q1) #lrnchat
10:54:10 am fredsheahan: Q1) Create job incentives which devalue SME new learning and exploration #lrnchat
10:54:18 am dtssmithers: @ 1 company, my input as an instructional designer had no impact & SMEs made all the final calls to EVERYTHING! ouch! #lrnchat
10:54:21 am ckagy: RT @LearnTribe: RT @myFootpath: Q1: Preventing people from expressing and sharing ideas. Preventing the exchange of information. #lrnchat >like it
10:54:21 am briandusablon: Agreed. RT @StephanieDaul: RT @briandusablon: Q1) Skip the analysis. <or get stuck in the analysis> #lrnchat
10:54:27 am Mark_Glanville: Q1. Make it dull and lengthy and inject no passion or enthusiasm into it. #lrnchat
10:54:29 am LandDDave: Q1) I’d let people leave a learning initiative without the opportunity to put new skills to practice. #lrnchat
10:54:29 am onsSara: Q1) sabotage learning>> create content that circles the objectives but doesn’t address them #lrnchat
10:54:29 am michaelcjohnson: RT @lrnchat: Q1) If you really wanted to sabotage learning, how would you do it? #lrnchat
10:54:33 am hjarche: @moehlert as I’m sure you do to most things on twitter😉 #lrnchat
10:54:37 am cpjobling: Q1) How to sabotage learning? Assume that academics who’s promotion depends on measured research outputs is interested in teaching. #lrnchat
10:54:40 am dtssmithers: RT @c4lpt: RT: @briandusablon: Q1) Lock down the web. #lrnchat <Exactly!
10:54:40 am ckagy: RT @myFootpath: RT @2GFred Q1) Way to prevent learning: Don’t believe in your students ability to learn. >> and assume you know their limits #lrnchat
10:54:42 am kelly_smith01: Q1) Not letting learner practice desired behavior in context #lrnchat
10:54:48 am myFootpath: @LearnTribe Thanks!! #lrnchat
10:54:49 am billcush: Q1) To sabotage learning, I would propose a 6-month deadline for developing a new Stress Management course. #lrnchat
10:54:51 am Mark_Glanville: RT @lrnchat: Q1) If you really wanted to sabotage learning, how would you do it? #lrnchat
10:54:55 am theteachinggame: #lrnchat Q1) Sabotage learning by creating extreme consequences for failure
10:54:57 am moehlert: @lrnchat Q1) I’d put the NEXT button in the lower RIGHT-hand corner! HAHAHA That would screw everything up!
10:54:59 am tonya_simmons: q1) to sum up previous posts – make course as boring as possible w/o engaging the learner at all – torture to fill LMS req #lrnchat
10:55:14 am dtssmithers: Rather lock down the Social Web <- what I’m experiencing. RT @briandusablon: Q1) Lock down the web. #lrnchat #lrnchat
10:55:16 am briandusablon: Q1) Give them a blackberry. #lrnchat
10:55:21 am daviddlacroix: Q1) Too many acronyms and too much inside baseball. #lrnchat
10:55:27 am 2GFred: Q1) If we force people, “behead” folks as examples, etc. People will still learn — but maybe not what they need to learn. #lrnchat
10:55:31 am LearnTribe: RT @jaycross: Q1) I’d give hour-long, impersonal lectures in classrooms on irrelevant topics… #lrnchat > that’s most lectures then?
10:55:41 am techherding: @moehlert @hjarche Are you using the ADDIE framework to design this “casual ambiguity”? And, if so, what is your assessment plan?#lrnchat
10:55:48 am JffZllr: q1) are we sabotaging Learning? …or Training? #lrnchat
10:55:51 am ktenkely: @michaelcjohnson with worksheets, mindless memorization, and rows of desks. #sabotagelearning #lrnchat
10:56:00 am daviddlacroix: And then take it away! –> RT @briandusablon: Q1) Give them a blackberry. #lrnchat
10:56:02 am hjarche: learning trap: thinking that learning is important on its own – learning is an emergent property of living/working #lrnchat
10:56:03 am dtssmithers: RT @moehlert: @lrnchat Q1) I’d put the NEXT button in the lower RIGHT-hand corner! HAHAHA That would screw everything up!
10:56:04 am MichelleLavoie: Q1 I honestly had a college professor read from index cards. For two hours every Tuesday and Thursday. YIKES #lrnchat
10:56:07 am urbie: #lrnchat Q1 if i really wanted to sabotage learning i wouldn’t do any thing different than i do now. not changing is death.
10:56:17 am StephanieDaul: Q1) tell stories that don’t relate to why they are there #lrnchat
10:56:20 am billcush: Q1) If the class was really needed quickly, I would propose 5 months to develop it and then complain I don’t have the resources. #lrnchat
10:56:20 am LandDDave: Q1) I’d start with a delivery date for the solution, and then look at what it would take to deliver by the chosen date. #lrnchat
10:56:22 am theteachinggame: @billcush Ha!🙂 #lrnchat
10:56:24 am wp_smith: RT @lress: #lrnchat Q1 what to do to sabotage learning? Never answer participants questions
10:56:28 am daviddlacroix: RT @hjarche: learning trap: thinking that learning is important on its own – learning is an emergent property of living/working #lrnchat
10:56:32 am nmeffert: Q1) Curiosity is a prerequisite. Focus on building curiosity. Learning will come naturally. #lrnchat
10:56:44 am chet_stevenson: Q1) How to sabotage learning: Give an hour and a half webinar with no learner engagement. Also speaking in a monotone voice. #lrnchat
10:56:48 am fredsheahan: RT @hjarche: learning trap: thinking that learning is important on its own – learning is an emergent property of living/working #lrnchat
10:56:49 am daviddlacroix: How old were they? RT @MichelleLavoie: Q1 I honestly had a college professor read from index cards. #lrnchat
10:56:52 am simbeckhampson: Q1) How to sabotge learning/training – whistle, shrug shoulders and carry on normal… (head in sand) #lrnchat
10:56:57 am drukid: Q1) How to sabotage leaning: Never visit someone else’s classroom to see what works for them. #lrnchat
10:56:58 am myFootpath: Good question! @JffZllr are we sabotaging Learning? …or Training? #lrnchat
10:57:04 am theteachinggame: RT @2GFred: Q1) If we force people, “behead” folks as examples, etc. People will still learn — but maybe not what they need to learn. #lrnchat
10:57:04 am lress: #lrnchat great ideas on how to sabotage learning🙂
10:57:05 am Biz_Ferris: @mpalko Very True. @Biz_Ferris PowerPoint doesn’t bore people. People bore people. #lrnchat
10:57:08 am techherding: RT @urbie: #lrnchat Q1 if i really wanted to sabotage learning i wouldn’t do any thing different than i do now. not changing is death.
10:57:12 am simbeckhampson: RT @nmeffert: Q1) Curiosity is a prerequisite. Focus on building curiosity. Learning will come naturally. < Yes! #lrnchat
10:57:12 am tonya_simmons: @2GFred they learn that learning is boring & torturous and that they are slaves to the LMS #lrnchat
10:57:26 am LearnTribe: RT @TerrenceWing: Q1) Lecture all day. Aaaargh #lrnchat > just done that – double aaaaargh
10:57:30 am moehlert: @tonya_simmons #lrnchat I think the question implied that we’d have to TRY (exert effort)..I think we’re pretty good at building torture now
10:57:43 am c4lpt: Q1) Over-engineer a learnng solution that should have been solved in a very lite-touch (non-training) way #lrnchat
10:57:53 am mpalko: Q1) don’t do any follow-up post learning #lrnchat
10:57:58 am billcush: Q1) And if VP said, I want more product training, I would say, “wait, let me do a needs analysis to find out what you really need. #lrnchat
10:58:04 am mrch0mp3rs: RT @moehlert: I think the question implied that wed have to TRY (exert effort)..I think were pretty good at building torture now #lrnchat
10:58:08 am JamesMcLuckie: RT @nmeffert: Q1) Curiosity is a prerequisite. Focus on building curiosity. Learning will come naturally. < Great quote. #lrnchat
10:58:10 am briandusablon: RT @c4lpt: Q1) Over-engineer a learning solution that should have been solved in a very lite-touch (non-training) way #lrnchat
10:58:13 am moehlert: @tonya_simmons #lrnchat I should say, I just completed our mandatory Privacy Training and that may be coloring my responses :-p
10:58:33 am kelly_smith01: Q1) Sabotage is learning event/modules which last more than 15 (or less) minutes w/o practice/interaction/learner action #lrnchat
10:58:35 am daviddlacroix: RT @c4lpt: Q1) Over-engineer a learnng solution that should have been solved in a very lite-touch (non-training) way #lrnchat
10:58:37 am briandusablon: Yes. Don’t bother keeping them engaged and figuring out if what you did, worked.RT @mpalko: Q1) dont do any follow-up post learning #lrnchat
10:58:45 am simbeckhampson: @cpjobling Sad! #lrnchat
10:58:47 am kelly_smith01: RT @mpalko: Q1) don’t do any follow-up post learning #lrnchat
10:58:47 am fredsheahan: Q1) Fail to make authentic connections between procedural learning and real-world applications #lrnchat
10:58:49 am michaelcjohnson: Q1) #sabotagelearning by reading powerpoints to students – by doing for students what they should do for themselves #lrnchat
10:58:58 am ckagy: RT @urbie: #lrnchat Q1 if i really wanted to sabotage learning i wouldn’t do any thing different than i do now. not changing is death.
10:58:59 am techherding: Q1) Don’t bother about those silly “Learning Objectives” — we all know what we’re trying to teach them! #lrnchat
10:59:02 am michaelcjohnson: RT @c4lpt: Q1) Over-engineer a learnng solution that should have been solved in a very lite-touch (non-training) way #lrnchat
10:59:09 am cpjobling: Q1) Your job is to prepare 20 lectures, give them and set an exam. If learning doesn’t happen – blame the students. #lrnchat
10:59:10 am kelly_smith01: RT @c4lpt: Q1) Over-engineer a learnng solution that should have been solved in a very lite-touch (non-training) way #lrnchat
10:59:13 am JffZllr: Cuz I’m guilty of both! @myFootpath: Good question! @JffZllr are we sabotaging Learning? …or Training? #lrnchat
10:59:13 am chris_hall: RT @cpjobling: Q1) How to sabotage learning? Assume that academics who’s promotion depends on measured research outputs is interested in teaching. #lrnchat
10:59:31 am nmeffert: Q1) Understand that learning is a “whole” process – it is a cycle. #lrnchat
10:59:58 am billcush: RT @C4LPT: Q1) Over-engineer a learnng solution that should have been solved in a very lite-touch (non-training) way #lrnchat
11:00:05 am tonya_simmons: @moehlert one of my last courses was I-9 procedures & requirements, so I hear ya man #lrnchat
11:00:18 am moehlert: @TerrenceWing #lrnchat ..to paraphrase LT Aldo Raine..”we’re killing ADDIEs and brother, bizness is BOOMING”
11:00:25 am simbeckhampson: @urbie totally agree… my opening thoughts too… no change = death… #lrnchat
11:00:32 am myFootpath: RT @nmeffert Q1) Understand that learning is a “whole” process – it is a cycle. >>great point. And it’s a never ending cycle … #lrnchat
11:00:34 am lress: RT @techherding: Q1) Don’t bother about those silly “Learning Objectives” — we all know what we’re trying to teach them! #lrnchat
11:00:34 am LearnTribe: q1) set out to get as many students as possible without considering how you’ll teach them with limited resources #lrnchat
11:00:35 am michaelcjohnson: Q1) #sabotagelearning by decontextualizing learning, only practicing component skills out of context oh and don’t provide feedback #lrnchat
11:00:36 am ckagy: Q1) assume that learning is the solution #lrnchat
11:00:43 am MichelleLavoie: Q1 Start every learning objective with “Students will understand ……..” #lrnchat
11:00:52 am TerrenceWing: Q1) Expect that you can LEARN your learners #lrnchat
11:00:56 am dbolen: @c4lpt or a training solution looking for a non training problem #lrnchat
11:01:12 am lrnchat: Q2) What are some common learning traps we find ourselves and our learners in? #lrnchat
11:01:25 am cpjobling: @chris_hall: finally emerging from the shadows! … what do you think? #lrnchat
11:01:27 am GrahamAttwell: RT @hjarche: learning trap: thinking that learning is important on its own – learning is an emergent property of living/working #lrnchat
11:01:29 am moehlert: @lrnchat #lrnchat Q1) Oh! How about thinking that we’re building learning instead of opportunities?
11:01:31 am mrch0mp3rs: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some common learning traps we find ourselves and our learners in? #lrnchat
11:01:33 am daviddlacroix: Q1) Here’s a simple act of sabotage: get names wrong. #lrnchat
11:01:35 am tonya_simmons: @chet_stevenson and have the sound quality cut out intermittently #lrnchat
11:01:37 am cpjobling: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some common learning traps we find ourselves and our learners in? #lrnchat
11:01:37 am michaelcjohnson: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some common learning traps we find ourselves and our learners in? #lrnchat
11:01:43 am billcush: Ha! RT @cpjobling: Q1) Your job is to prepare 20 lectures, give them an exam. If learning doesn’t happen – blame the students. #lrnchat
11:01:45 am LandDDave: RT @TerrenceWing: Q1) Expect that you can LEARN your learners <Yes! #lrnchat
11:01:51 am fredsheahan: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some common learning traps we find ourselves and our learners in? #lrnchat
11:01:52 am c4lpt: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some common learning traps we find ourselves and our learners in? #lrnchat
11:01:55 am techherding: RT @MichelleLavoie: Q1 Start every learning objective with “Students will understand ……..” #lrnchat << “Be able to parrot back”
11:01:55 am LandDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some common learning traps we find ourselves and our learners in? #lrnchat
11:01:55 am daviddlacroix: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some common learning traps we find ourselves and our learners in? #lrnchat
11:02:01 am eshwaranv: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some common learning traps we find ourselves and our learners in? #lrnchat
11:02:03 am myFootpath: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some common learning traps we find ourselves and our learners in? #lrnchat
11:02:04 am TerrenceWing: @MichelleLavoie I know. How hard is it to choose an action verb. #lrnchat
11:02:06 am briandusablon: Q1) @MichelleLavoie or “at the end of this presentation, you will…” Why at the end? #lrnchat
11:02:06 am briggzay: Q1) To sabotage learning, i would assume that i am the smartest person in the group. #lrnchat
11:02:15 am theteachinggame: #lrnchat define learning trap please
11:02:16 am ckagy: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some common learning traps we find ourselves and our learners in? #lrnchat
11:02:16 am 2GFred: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some common learning traps we find ourselves and our learners in? #lrnchat
11:02:18 am techherding: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some common learning traps we find ourselves and our learners in? #lrnchat
11:02:31 am myFootpath: Q2: Getting comfortable (aka lazy) and assuming we already know it all and that we don’t have to keep learning. #lrnchat
11:02:35 am daviddlacroix: Q2: Ten pounds in a five-pound bag. #lrnchat
11:02:40 am moehlert: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some common learning traps we find ourselves and our learners in? #lrnchat
11:02:45 am kelly_smith01: RT @daviddlacroix: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some common learning traps we find ourselves and our learners in? #lrnchat
11:02:55 am LandDDave: Q2) Ending programs with the very powerful and memorable “Please remember to fill out your evaluation before you leave” #lrnchat
11:02:59 am ckagy: Q2) Pedagogy instead of androgogy #lrnchat
11:03:01 am michaelcjohnson: RT @briggzay: Q1) To sabotage learning, i would assume that i am the smartest person in the group. #lrnchat
11:03:03 am myFootpath: Q2: learning is like any relationship, you have to work at it all the time, and never take it for granted. #lrnchat
11:03:04 am TerrenceWing: @LearnTribe My sympathies. I hope your next training event is more valuable. #lrnchat
11:03:07 am chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some common learning traps we find ourselves and our learners in? #lrnchat
11:03:15 am 2GFred: RT @briandusablon: Q1) @MichelleLavoie or “at the end of this presentation, you will…” Why at the end? #lrnchat
11:03:17 am sifowler: Q2) common traps as learners … thinking that we know what we don’t know or what we need to know (or the opposite) #lrnchat
11:03:23 am simbeckhampson: Q2) Comfort Zone: ‘It’s is so snuggily warm and everything is in it’s place’, mentality… #lrnchat
11:03:26 am briandusablon: Q2) Learning traps: churning out training because it’s what we’ve done for them before. #lrnchat
11:03:28 am StephanieDaul: Q2) Thinking everyone learns the same #lrnchat
11:03:31 am oxala75: @techherding actually, i’d make half the course learning objectives #lrnchat #learningsabotage
11:03:36 am laurenkgray: @myFootpath tuning into #lrnchat now!
11:03:38 am onsSara: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some common learning traps we find ourselves and our learners in? #lrnchat
11:03:43 am lress: #lrnchat Q2) common learning traps we find ourselves and our learners in? too much push – too less pull
11:03:58 am dtssmithers: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some common learning traps we find ourselves and our learners in? #lrnchat
11:03:58 am ckagy: @daviddlacroix BINGO! -> Ten pounds in a five-pound bag. #lrnchat
11:03:59 am eshwaranv: RT @StephanieDaul: Q2) Thinking everyone learns the same #lrnchat
11:04:04 am MichelleLavoie: RT @briandusablon: Q1) @MichelleLavoie or “at the end of this presentation, you will…” Why at the end? #lrnchat . assumes you have objctvs
11:04:05 am JffZllr: RT @StephanieDaul: Q2) Thinking everyone learns the same #lrnchat
11:04:07 am StephanieDaul: Q2) If they like me they most have learned something #lrnchat
11:04:09 am daviddlacroix: RT @sifowler: Q2) common traps as learners … thinking that we know what we dont know or what we need to know (or the opposite) #lrnchat
11:04:09 am techherding: Q2: That it’s actually a “Learning” problem. Not an OD problem, or a job aid problem, or a documentation problem… #lrnchat
11:04:12 am urbie: #lrnchat Q2 common learning traps we found ourselves and learners in: r-e-s-p-e-c-t.. lack of (for each other)..
11:04:12 am myFootpath: @laurenkgray Awesome! Great to see you!🙂 #lrnchat
11:04:15 am laurenkgray: So true! I learn visually while others learn by hearing. RT @StephanieDaul: Q2) Thinking everyone learns the same #lrnchat
11:04:17 am dbolen: q2 as @c4lpt noted, being an order taker, then building training for a non training problem #lrnchat
11:04:23 am laurenkgray: RT @onsSara: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some common learning traps we find ourselves and our learners in? #lrnchat
11:04:30 am simbeckhampson: @lress not enough ‘pulley’ (via @scottgould😉 #lrnchat
11:04:30 am cpjobling: Q2) I have to admit to have taught a few courses where I “prepared 20 lectures, gave them, and set an exam.” 12 step plan please! #lrnchat
11:04:31 am briandusablon: Q2) Learning trap: Using technology to develop something without know why we’re developing it. What’s the goal? #lrnchat
11:04:31 am kelly_smith01: Q2) We (designers of learning) not knowing or trusting learner focus, desire and ability to apply what is learned. #lrnchat
11:04:32 am billcush: RT @myFootpath: Q2: Getting comfortable (aka lazy) and assuming we already know it all and that we don’t have to keep learning. #lrnchat
11:04:39 am laurenkgray: Q2: Another learning trap, thinking we know everything when we don’t. #lrnchat
11:04:40 am Mark_Glanville: #lrnchat Q2. Creating a course just to tick boxes and meet a deadline without taking into account the learner experience
11:04:41 am oxala75: Q2) forgetting that people have other priorities. forgetting that people want to perform. forgetting that there are people. #lrnchat
11:04:46 am mrch0mp3rs: @theteachinggame Learning trap = stuff we know to avoid, but end up doing anyway. #lrnchat
11:04:50 am onsSara: Q2) learners stuck figuring out *new technology (to them) before getting in learning groove #lrnchat
11:04:56 am techherding: RT @ckagy: Q2) Pedagogy instead of androgogy #lrnchat << Apologies to Malcolm — ain’t no difference btw adults and pre-school.
11:05:00 am ckagy: Q2) Why do we need interaction? the instructor is the expert. #lrnchat
11:05:04 am myFootpath: Q2: When you’re learning something new, u have to be ready/prepared to work through some initial discomfort as part of the process #lrnchat
11:05:06 am daviddlacroix: Mistaking completion for closure –> RT @MichelleLavoie: RT @briandusablon: Q1) Why at the end? #lrnchat
11:05:09 am LandDDave: Q2) Trap for learners (and some L&D) – measuring successful learning via ‘completion’ #lrnchat
11:05:13 am billcush: Definitely. RT @simbeckhampson: Q2) Comfort Zone: ‘It’s is so snuggily warm and everything is in it’s place’, mentality… #lrnchat
11:05:18 am dtssmithers: RT @hjarche: learning trap: thinking that learning is important on its own – learning is an emergent property of living/working #lrnchat
11:05:27 am kelly_smith01: RT @mrch0mp3rs: @theteachinggame Learning trap = stuff we know to avoid, but end up doing anyway. #lrnchat
11:05:29 am urbie: #lrnchat Q2 common learning traps we find ourselves and our learners in: sand traps. we’re unable to gain traction in a program. 4WD ISD..
11:05:31 am lynnwernham: Q2) concentrating on learning rather than performance #lrnchat
11:05:33 am cpjobling: Q2) The road to learning traps is paved with good intentions. #lrnchat
11:05:38 am daviddlacroix: RT @briandusablon: Q2) Learning trap: Using technology to develop something without know why were developing it. Whats the goal? #lrnchat
11:05:41 am briandusablon: Q2) Learning trap: relying on the LMS for delivery. #lrnchat
11:05:53 am simbeckhampson: RT @oxala75: Q2) forgetting that people have other priorities. that people want to perform. forgetting that they are people. #lrnchat
11:05:54 am LaurenLK: @lrnchat LaurenLK here, from MI. Been lurking long enough – actually going to talk today!
11:05:58 am LearnTribe: RT @ckagy: Q2) Why do we need interaction? the instructor is the expert. #lrnchat
11:06:00 am theteachinggame: RT @StephanieDaul: Q2) If they like me they most have learned something #lrnchat
11:06:04 am michaelcjohnson: Q2) in #highered I’d say the grade trap… grade inflation, only doing activities for points… takes focus off real learning #lrnchat
11:06:05 am daviddlacroix: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) We (designers of learning) not knowing or trusting learner focus, desire & ability to apply what is learned. #lrnchat
11:06:07 am chet_stevenson: Q2) Common traps we find ourselves in: Continuing a program without spot checking for validity. #lrnchat
11:06:08 am techherding: RT @StephanieDaul: Q2) If they like me they most have learned something #lrnchat <<VERY powerful, Steph. Sign of a young trainer.
11:06:10 am ckagy: RT @onsSara: Q2) learners stuck figuring out *new technology (to them) before getting in learning groove #lrnchat
11:06:11 am simbeckhampson: RT @lynnwernham: Q2) concentrating on learning rather than performance #lrnchat
11:06:16 am moehlert: @lrnchat #lrnchat Q2) Trap=thinking that ISD is about learning.
11:06:19 am nlkilkenny: Q2) no role clarity between the SME and Instructional Designer #lrnchat
11:06:22 am LaurenLK: RT @lrnchat: Q1) If you really wanted to sabotage learning, how would you do it? #lrnchat
11:06:28 am Tina_Barr: Q2) Goals are imperative to success esp if multiple ppl are working on a project. #lrnchat
11:06:29 am TerrenceWing: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some common learning traps we find ourselves and our learners in? #lrnchat
11:06:37 am devlearn: #lrnchat Come see Serious Games and informal Learning at DevLearn 2010 – and a whole lot more!
11:06:39 am c4lpt: Q2) Thinking training will solve the problem – when it (prob) only addresses the symptoms #lrnchat
11:06:47 am mrch0mp3rs: Defining “learning trap” = stuff we know to avoid, but end up doing anyway. #lrnchat
11:06:50 am scottgould:🙂 RT @simbeckhampson: @lress not enough ‘pulley’ (via @scottgould😉 #lrnchat
11:06:51 am LandDDave: Q2) Setting up an activity by saying “Let’s do an activity about…” or worse, “Let’s play a game…”. #lrnchat
11:06:53 am urbie: #lrnchat Q2 common learning traps we find ourselves and our learners in: claptraps. giving in to hyped-laced solutions.
11:07:09 am theteachinggame: RT @dtssmithers: RT @hjarche: learning trap: thinking that learning is important on its own – learning is an emergent property of living/working #lrnchat
11:07:18 am nmeffert: Q1) Steps: 1. Inspire 2. Explore 3. Focus 4. Rest 5. Celebrate/share 6. Reflect and integrate 7. Apply 8. Master REPEAT #lrnchat
11:07:18 am LaurenLK: @lrnchat Q1- Talking heads. Lots. Talk. Talk. Talk. More talking. NO doing. Keep talking.
11:07:24 am dtssmithers: Q2, Brain dumps. Expecting that every1 wants to hear/learn everything u know instead of leaving them wanting more <- always better #lrnchat
11:07:25 am LearnTribe: q2) those who consider themselves to be the expert have stopped learning – what value is that in a teacher? #lrnchat
11:07:26 am myFootpath: Great point! RT @c4lpt Q2) Thinking training will solve the problem – when it (prob) only addresses the symptoms #lrnchat
11:07:29 am daviddlacroix: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Defining “learning trap” = stuff we know to avoid, but end up doing anyway. #lrnchat
11:07:34 am fredsheahan: Q2) common learning trap: assuming that a good grade via rote learning signifies expertise. #lrnchat
11:07:35 am moehlert: @lrnchat #lrnchat Q2) Trap 2 = forgetting that there are actually people on the other end of what we create
11:07:43 am cpjobling: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Defining “learning trap” = stuff we know to avoid, but end up doing anyway. < Yes! #lrnchat
11:07:50 am michaelcjohnson: Q2) overexplicitness & telling instead of allowing learners to experience for themselves #lrnchat
11:07:52 am olliegardener: Sorry I’m late. Will have to catch-up. What have I missed? #lrnchat #lrnchat
11:07:58 am kelly_smith01: Q2) Not trusting the learners to handle “Pull” responsibilities. #lrnchat
11:08:02 am briandusablon: Q2) Learning trap: tracking everything for “completion,” but never following up to see if user actually improved performance. #lrnchat
11:08:03 am LaurenLK: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some common learning traps we find ourselves and our learners in? #lrnchat
11:08:08 am TerrenceWing: Q2) Using technology without a clear strategy or competency of the technology #lrnchat
11:08:09 am Tina_Barr: RT @moehlert: @lrnchat Q2) Trap 2 = forgetting that there are actually people on the other end of what we create #lrnchat
11:08:15 am urbie: #lrnchat Q2 common learning traps we find ourselves and our learners in: rat-traps. Using outdated or poorly suited tools past their prime..
11:08:23 am eshwaranv: RT @michaelcjohnson: Q2) overexplicitness & telling instead of allowing learners to experience for themselves #lrnchat
11:08:28 am dtssmithers: Q2, Thinking that ppl will make the practical application leaps on their own w/o taking them there. #lrnchat
11:08:38 am eshwaranv: RT @TerrenceWing: Q2) Using technology without a clear strategy or competency of the technology #lrnchat
11:08:39 am michaelcjohnson: RT @techherding: RT @StephanieDaul: Q2) If they like me they most have learned something #lrnchat <<VERY powerful, Steph. Sign of a young trainer.
11:08:40 am sverjans: RT @hjarche: learning trap: thinking that learning is important on its own – learning is an emergent property of living/working #lrnchat
11:08:43 am oxala75: RT @lynnwernham: Q2) concentrating on learning rather than performance #lrnchat
11:08:48 am theclineseword: RT @devlearn: #lrnchat Come see Serious Games and informal Learning at DevLearn 2010 – and a whole lot more!
11:08:48 am simbeckhampson: @billcush It’s like prising a packet of old frozen peas from the back of a freezer… #lrnchat
11:08:49 am JffZllr: Or in the same time interval RT @StephanieDaul: Q2) Thinking everyone learns the same #lrnchat
11:08:51 am myFootpath: Q2: Instructors who are out of touch with their students and the current reality. How can u teach if you don’t know your students? #lrnchat
11:08:55 am c4lpt: RT: @briandusablon: Q2) Learning trap: relying on the LMS for delivery #lrnchat <thinking it is ONLY way to “deliver learning”
11:08:57 am dtssmithers: @lynnwernham: Q2) concentrating on learning rather than performance #lrnchat #lrnchat
11:09:00 am nmeffert: Q1) As I said, a “whole” process. Ignore the whole person, the whole process – overemphasize one aspect, you kill the whole thing #lrnchat
11:09:02 am michaelcjohnson: RT @simbeckhampson: RT @oxala75: Q2) forgetting that people have other priorities. that people want to perform. forgetting that they are people. #lrnchat
11:09:03 am oxala75: RT @moehlert: @lrnchat #lrnchat Q2) Trap=thinking that ISD is about learning.
11:09:20 am eshwaranv: RT @nlkilkenny: Q2) no role clarity between the SME and Instructional Designer #lrnchat
11:09:21 am StephanieDaul: Q2) If they come to class and they will don’t get it, it’s not my problem because I taught from the guide #lrnchat
11:09:26 am lynnwernham: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Not trusting the learners to handle “Pull” responsibilities. #lrnchat
11:09:34 am dtssmithers: It’s about performance & impact (ROI)! RT @moehlert #lrnchat Q2) Trap=thinking that ISD is about learning. #lrnchat
11:09:51 am LaurenLK: @lrnchat Q2 – Big trap and my #1 soapbox: learning = understanding = list, describe, define, summarize – anything on recall level.
11:09:56 am myFootpath: Q2: Not bridging the gap between the generations (Boomers, Gen Y, Millennials) and how they learn differently #lrnchat
11:09:58 am fredsheahan: RT @briandusablon: Q2) tracking everything for “completion,” but never following up to see if user actually improved performance. #lrnchat
11:10:05 am TerrenceWing: Q4) Incorporate a Game that is not relative to the training objectives #lrnchat
11:10:07 am urbie: #lrnchat Q2 common traps we find ourselves and our learners in: firetraps. not listening to what our customers/learners are telling us..
11:10:08 am LearnTribe: q2) learn by doing, showing and contributing = effective. Learn by being talked at = ineffective waste of time #lrnchat
11:10:11 am briandusablon: Q2) Learning trap: developing for a “content owner,” without talking to/observing the users to see what they actually need. #lrnchat
11:10:25 am LearnTribe: RT @myFootpath: Q2: Not bridging the gap between the generations (Boomers, Gen Y, Millennials) and how they learn differently #lrnchat
11:10:32 am theteachinggame: #lrnchat Q2) common learning trap: Not customizing your learning experience. Assuming that one-size fits all
11:10:39 am simbeckhampson: @c4lpt …for many’s mindset, it is the only (sad) way of delivering learning… but things are changing🙂 #lrnchat
11:10:42 am LandDDave: Q2) Using software within the constraints of our comfort zone, instead of looking for ways to use it more effectively #lrnchat
11:10:50 am kelly_smith01: Q2) Learning Trap – Learner and Designer of Learning not accounting/considering/respecting informal learning. #lrnchat
11:10:58 am billcush: Good one. RT @StephanieDaul: Q2) If they come to class & don’t get it, it’s not my problem because I taught from the guide #lrnchat
11:10:59 am michaelcjohnson: Q2) another trap technocentricity – thinking about the technology before other more important considerations… #lrnchat
11:11:06 am moehlert: @C4LPT @briandusablon #lrnchat Has anyone actually ever ‘delivered learning’? Have u recv’d a box of it? Signed for it? Seen a truck of it?
11:11:12 am cpjobling: Q2) The inertia trap: “This is how I learned this so it must be good enough for you!” #lrnchat
11:11:20 am techherding: Sends chills down their spines…RT @LandDDave: Q2) Setting up an activity by saying “Let’s do an activity about…” #lrnchat
11:11:25 am ckagy: RT @myFootpath: Q2: Not bridging the gap between the generations (Boomers, Gen Y, Millennials) and how they learn differently #lrnchat
11:11:27 am Tina_Barr: RT @theteachinggame: #lrnchat Q2) common learning trap: Not customizing your learning experience. Assuming that one-size fits all
11:11:32 am LearnTribe: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Not trusting the learners to handle “Pull” responsibilities. #lrnchat >but also them TAKING responsibility
11:11:32 am Rsuominen: Dropping in late to #lrnchat session. What’s up?
11:11:48 am Tina_Barr: RT @LearnTribe: q2) learn by doing, showing and contributing = effective. Learn by being talked at = ineffective waste of time #lrnchat
11:11:56 am dtssmithers: Q2, Assuming too much OR assuming too little. We all know what happens when we assume… #lrnchat
11:11:59 am simbeckhampson: RT @cpjobling: Q2) The inertia trap: “This is how I learned this so it must be good enough for you!” < nice one! #lrnchat
11:12:07 am myFootpath: @Rsuominen Hi! Talking about learning traps. #lrnchat
11:12:09 am chet_stevenson: @theteachinggame: #lrnchat Q2) common learning trap: Not customizing your learning experience. Assuming that one-size fits all #lrnchat
11:12:09 am nmeffert: Q2) When and how to use tools. Didactic teaching (lecturing) works very well for delivering information, but not for inspiring #lrnchat
11:12:18 am techherding: Nothing important. RT @olliegardener: Sorry I’m late. Will have to catch-up. What have I missed? #lrnchat #lrnchat
11:12:18 am michaelcjohnson: Q2) Trap: content coverage – If I cover it they will learn! #lrnchat Also a focus on breadth over depth of learning.
11:12:30 am fredsheahan: Q2) Handling a social learning initiative with the same command-control instructional style #lrnchat
11:12:30 am mrch0mp3rs: @moehlert @C4LPT @briandusablon I got your bag o’learning RIGHT ‘ERE! #lrnchat
11:12:34 am michaelcjohnson: RT @billcush: Good one. RT @StephanieDaul: Q2) If they come to class & don’t get it, it’s not my problem because I taught from the guide #lrnchat
11:12:39 am LandDDave: RT @TerrenceWing: Q4) Incorporate a Game that is not relative to the training objectives #lrnchat
11:12:50 am chet_stevenson: RT @nmeffert: Q2) Didactic teaching (lecturing) works very well for delivering information, but not for inspiring #lrnchat
11:12:52 am theteachinggame: RT @nmeffert: Q2) When and how to use tools. Didactic teaching (lecturing) works very well for delivering information, but not for inspiring #lrnchat
11:12:59 am michaelcjohnson: RT @LearnTribe: q2) learn by doing, showing and contributing = effective. Learn by being talked at = ineffective waste of time #lrnchat
11:13:03 am nmeffert: Q2) When and how to use tools. Questioning is the most reliable tool for inspiring inquisitiveness in deeper learning #lrnchat
11:13:04 am derekwwade: Dear Tweeps: my twitter volume is about to explode for an hour as I engage in #lrnchat.
11:13:08 am LearnTribe: RT @simbeckhampson: RT @cpjobling: Q2) The inertia trap: “This is how I learned this so it must be good enough for you!” <nice one! #lrnchat
11:13:10 am olliegardener: Q2) Getting caught up in “delivering” training, instead of enabling learning #lrnchat
11:13:16 am briandusablon: @moehlert no, but they deliver training all the time. Problem is, does the person receiving it get what they ordered? #lrnchat
11:13:19 am simbeckhampson: RT @fredsheahan: Q2) Handling a social learning initiative with the same command-control instructional style < FAIL! #lrnchat
11:13:20 am techherding: RT @moehlert: @lrnchat #lrnchat Q2) Trap=thinking that ISD is about learning.
11:13:28 am brosseaub: RT @hjarche: learning trap: thinking that learning is important on its own – learning is an emergent property of living/working #lrnchat
11:13:29 am c4lpt: RT: @moehlert #lrnchat Has anyone actually ever ‘delivered learning’? Have u recv’d a box of it? Signed for it? Seen a truck of it?<exactly!
11:13:30 am briggzay: Q2) A common learning trap is trying to finish the day’s lesson, rather than following productive bunny trails. #lrnchat
11:13:35 am briandusablon: @moehlert or was something ordered FOR them and they must take delivery. #lrnchat
11:13:37 am derekwwade: Hello all. Corporate trainer/coach in Agile Methods here. Also dropping in late and will lurk for a bit. #lrnchat
11:13:50 am nmeffert: Q2) When and how to use tools. And, sometimes, you just need to deliver a transformational lesson through trickery. #lrnchat
11:13:55 am urbie: #lrnchat Q2 common traps we find ourselves and our learners in: lint traps. incomplete learning experiences that we can’t ever really clean.
11:13:56 am techherding: RT @eshwaranv: RT @nlkilkenny: Q2) no role clarity between the SME and Instructional Designer #lrnchat << Same as diff btw ham and eggs
11:13:56 am onsSara: Q2) learnerslearning trap> access online course for the 1st time on its last day – cramming, not learning much #lrnchat
11:13:59 am c4lpt: RT @hjarche: learning trap: thinking that learning is important on its own – learning is an emergent property of living/working #lrnchat
11:14:06 am myFootpath: @derekwwade Welcome! Talking about learning traps. #lrnchat
11:14:16 am theteachinggame: RT @briggzay: Q2) A common learning trap is trying to finish the day’s lesson, rather than following productive bunny trails. #lrnchat
11:14:28 am c4lpt: RT @mrch0mp3rs: @moehlert @C4LPT @briandusablon I got your bag o’learning RIGHT ‘ERE! #lrnchat
11:14:35 am TerrenceWing: Q2) Learn on to others as you would have them learn onto you. Not! We all learn differently #lrnchat
11:14:47 am catherinecronin: V. interesting discussion on #lrnchat today – sorry I can’t stay! Will check the transcript later.
11:15:01 am derekwwade: @Tina_Barr +1 to your response to Q2. “You don’t read a bike, you ride a bike.” — @lukehohmann #lrnchat
11:15:09 am kelly_smith01: Q2) Assuming learning event always has a specific time, place and lenght for delivery. #lrnchat
11:15:21 am briandusablon: Q2) Learning trap: convert crappy branded PowerPoint from SME using Articulate. Record crappy audio with animated bullet points. #lrnchat
11:15:23 am simbeckhampson: RT @TerrenceWing: Q2) Learn on to others as you would have them learn onto you. Not! We all learn differently. #lrnchat
11:15:35 am eshwaranv: RT @derekwwade: @Tina_Barr +1 to your response to Q2. “You don’t read a bike, you ride a bike.” — @lukehohmann #lrnchat
11:15:37 am LearnTribe: Got to dash or it’ll be 2 more hours before I get home. Thanks for bright end to my working day #lrnchat
11:15:39 am daviddlacroix: Which eventually become firetraps –> RT @urbie: Q2 lint traps. incomplete learning experiences that we cant ever really clean. #lrnchat
11:15:42 am lrnchat: Q3) What can we do to avoid falling into these learning traps? #lrnchat
11:15:45 am michaelcjohnson: RT @mrch0mp3rs: @moehlert @C4LPT @briandusablon I got your bag o’learning RIGHT ‘ERE! #lrnchat
11:15:47 am myFootpath: RT @TerrenceWing Q2) We all learn differently >> Yep, some read, some listen, some write, some discuss, some do it all … #lrnchat
11:15:47 am Rsuominen: RT @michaelcjohnson Q1) #sabotagelearning by reading powerpoints to students #lrnchat
11:15:49 am Tina_Barr: RT @derekwwade: @Tina_Barr +1 to your response to Q2. “You don’t read a bike, you ride a bike.” — @lukehohmann #lrnchat
11:15:50 am simbeckhampson: RT @derekwwade: @Tina_Barr +1 to your response to Q2. “You don’t read a bike, you ride a bike.” — @lukehohmann < Love it! #lrnchat
11:15:55 am chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What can we do to avoid falling into these learning traps? #lrnchat
11:15:57 am olliegardener: Approaching mentoring as if it was a one-way gain relationship #lrnchat
11:16:01 am c4lpt: RT: @mrch0mp3rs: @moehlert @C4LPT @briandusablon I got your bag o’learning RIGHT ‘ERE! #lrnchat <Which of course means u must have LEARNT it
11:16:05 am eshwaranv: RT @briandusablon: Q2) Convert crappy branded PowerPoint from SME using Articulate.Record crappy audio with animated bullet points. #lrnchat
11:16:12 am Rsuominen: RT @MichelleLavoie: Q1 Start every learning objective with “Students will understand …” #lrnchat
11:16:12 am eshwaranv: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What can we do to avoid falling into these learning traps? #lrnchat
11:16:16 am urbie: #lrnchat Q2 common traps we find ourselves and our learners in: speed traps. different instructors teaching the same content differently..
11:16:18 am myFootpath: @LearnTribe Thanks for the chat! #lrnchat
11:16:20 am daviddlacroix: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What can we do to avoid falling into these learning traps? #lrnchat
11:16:22 am techherding: Q2) Assuming all learners must get to the same level of proficiency or skill to be a success. #lrnchat
11:16:26 am myFootpath: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What can we do to avoid falling into these learning traps? #lrnchat
11:16:32 am ckagy: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What can we do to avoid falling into these learning traps? #lrnchat
11:16:33 am LaurenLK: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What can we do to avoid falling into these learning traps? #lrnchat
11:16:34 am cpjobling: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What can we do to avoid falling into these learning traps? #lrnchat
11:16:36 am moehlert: @C4LPT #lrnchat Right! If we’re mistaken about what we’re delivering..we’re clearly confised about what we’re making…
11:16:44 am michaelcjohnson: RT @briggzay: Q2) A common learning trap is trying to finish the day’s lesson, rather than following productive bunny trails. #lrnchat
11:16:44 am LandDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What can we do to avoid falling into these learning traps? #lrnchat
11:16:46 am TerrenceWing: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What can we do to avoid falling into these learning traps? #lrnchat
11:16:47 am mbmessner: Q3) Recognize difference between presentation and application. Activities which present content are not the same as practicing! #lrnchat
11:16:53 am briandusablon: Q3) Avoid learning traps: fight the good fight. Push back. Ask “why”? Talk to users/learners. Go rogue. #lrnchat
11:16:55 am Tina_Barr: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What can we do to avoid falling into these learning traps? #lrnchat
11:16:56 am 2GFred: RT @techherding: Q2) Assuming all learners must get to the same level of proficiency or skill to be a success. #lrnchat
11:17:05 am myFootpath: What can we do to avoid falling into these learning traps? Q3: Ask questions from the beginning! #lrnchat
11:17:05 am michaelcjohnson: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What can we do to avoid falling into these learning traps? #lrnchat
11:17:07 am c4lpt: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What can we do to avoid falling into these learning traps? #lrnchat
11:17:18 am dtssmithers: RT @C4LPT @moehlert #lrnchat Has any1 actlly evr ‘delivered learning’? Have u recv’d a box of it? Signed 4it? Seen a truck of it? /exactly!
11:17:21 am Tina_Barr: Q3) Know your audience!!! Most important thing I believe. #lrnchat
11:17:24 am simbeckhampson: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Avoid learning traps: fight the good fight. Push back. Ask “why”? Talk to users/learners. Go rogue. < Cool! #lrnchat
11:17:26 am Rsuominen: Thanks RT @myFootpath @Rsuominen Hi! Talking about learning traps. #lrnchat
11:17:27 am lress: RT @briandusablon: Q2) convert crappy branded PowerPoint from SME using Articulate. Record crappy audio with animated bullet points #lrnchat
11:17:29 am 2GFred: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What can we do to avoid falling into these learning traps? #lrnchat
11:17:30 am eshwaranv: Q3) Define what you want to do and stick to it. Ask questions and perform self analysis #lrnchat
11:17:32 am daviddlacroix: Q3) Remember that it’s only ever partly about us, if it ever is about us in the first place. #lrnchat
11:17:34 am chet_stevenson: Q3) To avoid traps: Upfront Analysis. Formulate a plan. Learn how to facilitate instruction. #lrnchat
11:17:37 am tonya_simmons: Q3) recognize that the old way isn’t always the only or even the best way #lrnchat
11:17:41 am theteachinggame: #lrnchat Q3) Avoid learning traps by having a partner that you check-in w/ regularly..they keep you accountable and know your tendencies
11:17:42 am LaurenLK: @lrnchat Q3 – Don’t have a magic bullet here, wish I did. Keep asking, why? why do they need to define these words, list the steps, etc
11:17:46 am dtssmithers: @lrnchat: Q3) What can we do to avoid falling into these learning traps? #lrnchat
11:17:53 am dbolen: RT @Tina_Barr: Q3) Know your audience!!! Most important thing I believe. And respect #lrnchat
11:17:54 am derekwwade: Q2) Being satisfied with Rote or Understanding knowledge, without continuing to seek Application or Correlation level. #lrnchat
11:18:09 am Tina_Barr: RT @tonya_simmons: Q3) recognize that the old way isn’t always the only or even the best way #lrnchat Agree!
11:18:11 am kelly_smith01: Q3) Avoiding traps – connect/participate via SoMe and join #lrnchat each week. #lrnchat
11:18:14 am eshwaranv: RT @dbolen: RT @Tina_Barr: Q3) Know your audience!!! Most important thing I believe. And respect #lrnchat
11:18:22 am nmeffert: Q3) Great questions inspire more great questions. #lrnchat
11:18:27 am michaelcjohnson: @eshwaranv Thanks for the RT! Enjoying this #lrnchat, hope you are too
11:18:30 am derekwwade: @chet_stevenson Q3) Disagree slightly. Not a fan of upfront analysis. #BUFE is a learning trap in itself. #lrnchat
11:18:33 am dtssmithers: Q3, educate, re-educate, re-educate, train, train, communicate, communicate, educate, discuss, involve, collaborate, educate. #lrnchat
11:18:37 am myFootpath: q3: to avoid learning traps, stay open minded. Be willing to set your ego aside and listen to someone else’s point of view. #lrnchat
11:18:39 am daviddlacroix: RT @Tina_Barr: Q3) Know your audience!!! Most important thing I believe. || Thumbs up! #lrnchat
11:18:40 am mpalko: RT @kelly_smith01: Q3) Avoiding traps – connect/participate via SoMe and join #lrnchat each week. #lrnchat
11:18:41 am briandusablon: Q3) Avoid learning traps: Don’t just train. Engage. Discuss. Argue. Share. #lrnchat
11:18:43 am cpjobling: Q3) Personally, I’d be a better teacher if I’d learned a bit about how learners learn. Self-taught is not necessarily well taught. #lrnchat
11:18:45 am 2GFred: RT @theteachinggame: #lrnchat Q3) Avoid learning traps by having a partner that you check-in w/ regularly..keep you accountable… #lrnchat
11:18:46 am mrch0mp3rs: Q3) I ask peers for honest candid feedback along the way, encourage constructive challenges to my working assumptions. #lrnchat
11:18:50 am urbie: #lrnchat Q3 avoid traps by: toothpicks of quality: cost, quality, time. toss “pick 2 mentality” n deliver on all 3 within your constraints.
11:18:51 am StephanieDaul: Q3) Talk to our learners #lrnchat
11:19:00 am tonya_simmons: it’s common esp in elearning to see things that were innovative many years ago still being used, even tho there’s a better way #lrnchat
11:19:03 am myFootpath: @nmeffert RT Q3) Great questions inspire more great questions. #lrnchat
11:19:06 am michaelcjohnson: RT @ktenkely @michaelcjohnson with worksheets, mindless memorization, and rows of desks. #sabotagelearning #lrnchat > too true!
11:19:09 am doktadivah: RT @techherding: RT @eshwaranv: RT @nlkilkenny: Q2) no role clarity between the SME and Instructional Designer #lrnchat << Same as diff btw ham and eggs
11:19:12 am JffZllr: q3) Avoid traps w/ peer reviews… sometimes we need to be pushed back to reality #lrnchat
11:19:14 am theteachinggame: #lrnchat Q3) Avoid learning traps by falling into them and examining the hole
11:19:22 am fredsheahan: Q4) Avoid learning traps? Reinforce instructor passion through honest support and job recognition. #lrnchat
11:19:27 am tonya_simmons: sometimes it’s just a matter of coming up with a better way b/c the technology changes so quickly #lrnchat
11:19:33 am michaelcjohnson: RT @dbolen RT @Tina_Barr: Q3) Know your audience!!! Most important thing I believe. And respect #lrnchat
11:19:37 am MmeVeilleux: RT @theteachinggame: #lrnchat Q3) Avoid learning traps by falling into them and examining the hole
11:19:39 am lynnwernham: Q3) focus on what people need to be able to DO. Recognise the opportunities that social media can bring #lrnchat
11:19:45 am myFootpath: Love this! RT @theteachinggame Q3) Avoid learning traps by falling into them and examining the hole #lrnchat
11:19:46 am ckagy: Q3) impose a strict set of criteria that must be followed or else “learning” will be considered not to have happened… KIDDING! #lrnchat
11:19:47 am mbmessner: RT: @briandusablon: Q3) Avoid learning traps: Don’t just train. Engage. Discuss. Argue. Share. #lrnchat
11:19:49 am Rsuominen:🙂 RT @ckagy: Q2) Why do we need interaction? the instructor is the expert. #lrnchat
11:19:51 am michaelcjohnson: RT @eshwaranv: Q3) Define what you want to do and stick to it. Ask questions and perform self analysis #lrnchat
11:19:52 am briandusablon: Q3) Avoid learning traps: peer reviews (inside and outside the org, if possible). Run ideas by your #PLN. #lrnchat
11:20:00 am derekwwade: Q3) #BUFE and “read a bike” trap – avoid both by injecting more empiricism, more iteration. #lrnchat
11:20:07 am 2GFred: Q3) in other words… apply the same concepts to ourselves as to the class members #lrnchat
11:20:07 am dtssmithers: RT @briggzay Q2) A commn learning trap is trying to finish the day’s lesson rather than following productive bunny trails. #lrnchat #lrnchat
11:20:10 am moehlert: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What can we do to avoid falling into these learning traps? #lrnchat
11:20:10 am olliegardener: Q3) aim to enable, learn as much as your audience and involve your participants in enriching the experience #lrnchat
11:20:13 am devlearn: +#dl10 DevLearn rooms at SF Marriott selling fast! Save with group rate by Oct 9, or before rms run out! http://bit.ly/dx9Xzo #lrnchat
11:20:20 am onsSara: RT @urbie: Q2 traps we find ourselves &our learners in: speed traps-different instructors teaching the same content differently. #lrnchat
11:20:21 am urbie: #lrnchat Q3 trap avoidance: embrace Knowles’ androgy/constructivism: everyone creates/applies knowledge based on how learning touches them..
11:20:28 am eshwaranv: @michaelcjohnson Sure. Nice chatting with you here on #lrnchat
11:20:29 am techherding: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What can we do to avoid falling into these learning traps? #lrnchat
11:20:29 am TerrenceWing: Q3) Start with the end in mind #lrnchat
11:20:31 am kelly_smith01: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q3) Ask peers for honest candid feedback along the way,encourage constructive challenges to my working assumptions. #lrnchat
11:21:03 am ckagy: RT @theteachinggame: YES! eat yoru own cooking! -> #lrnchat Q3) Avoid learning traps by falling into them and examining the hole
11:21:07 am chet_stevenson: @derekwwade How do you customize training without a learner analysis? #lrnchat
11:21:14 am simbeckhampson: RT @theteachinggame: Q3) Avoid learning traps by falling into them and examining the hole < +1 Change ‘falling’ to ‘diving into’ #lrnchat
11:21:19 am dtssmithers: @briggzay rabbit trails are priceless opportunities in learning for all persons involved (and even those peering in)! #lrnchat
11:21:24 am lress: #lrnchat Q3) To avoid falling into these learning traps? put yourself in the role of a learner and watch the trainer/faciliator
11:21:34 am TerrenceWing: Q3) Engage the learner from the design process through to the evaluation and post learning activities #lrnchat
11:21:36 am nmeffert: Q3) Make a practice out of exploring your own edges. Create a list of “ways to stay out of ruts”. There’s a million tools. #lrnchat
11:21:54 am fredsheahan: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q3) Ask peers for honest candid feedback along the way,encourage constructive challenges to my working assumptions. #lrnchat
11:21:56 am drukid: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What can we do to avoid falling into these learning traps? #lrnchat
11:21:58 am dbolen: q3 ask “does this work?” “am I missing something here?” #lrnchat
11:21:59 am derekwwade: @olliegardener Yes! Involve the “audience” in the learning. Shift from “audience” to “participant” model. #lrnchat
11:22:03 am theteachinggame: RT @nmeffert: Q3) Make a practice out of exploring your own edges. Create a list of “ways to stay out of ruts”. There’s a million tools. #lrnchat
11:22:08 am myFootpath: RT @lress put yourself in the role of a learner and watch the trainer/faciliator .. great point! And ask for learners to evaluate u #lrnchat
11:22:13 am briandusablon: Q3) Avoid learning traps: design for all levels. Offer multiple learning solutions depending on skill set, knowledge, etc. #lrnchat
11:22:13 am briggzay: RT @kelly_smith01|@mrch0mp3rs: Q3) Ask peers for honest feedback, challenges to my assumptions. <-yes! promote reflective practice #lrnchat
11:22:18 am Tina_Barr: Q3) Also try to avoid going over time. Practice makes perfect #lrnchat
11:22:20 am simbeckhampson: RT @TerrenceWing: Q3) Engage the learner from the design process through to the evaluation and post learning activities < Win! #lrnchat
11:22:23 am daviddlacroix: Q3) Is it possible that we’ve missed the hidden exit from a trap? #lrnchat
11:22:38 am dtssmithers: Q3, Avoid lrning traps admitting that we once did them, learn from them, correct them, & move on. #lrnchat
11:22:39 am ckagy: Q3) don’t skip the debrief and give it twice as long as you think it needs #lrnchat
11:22:39 am StephanieDaul: @briandusablon Peer review for concepts and not just grammar #lrnchat
11:22:41 am Rsuominen: RT @eshwaranv RT @michaelcjohnson Q2) telling instead of allowing learners to experience for themselves #lrnchat
11:22:53 am sifowler: had to run, so maybe my multitasking ain’t so good, will read transcript later #lrnchat
11:23:06 am TerrenceWing: Q3) Try to take a picture of your objective. If you can’t visualize it, your learners probably can’t either. #lrnchat
11:23:08 am nmeffert: Q3) Staying out of ruts always comes down to shaking it up. Whatever it takes: shake it up. Get naked. That might help. #lrnchat
11:23:08 am dtssmithers: Q3, Do more than just level 1 kirkpatrick evals. #lrnchat
11:23:14 am mbmessner: Q3) Set learning/perf. objectives and stick to them. Are learners demonstrating what you want them to do? Measure your objectives. #lrnchat
11:23:21 am techherding: Q3) Go read Brookfield “On Becoming A Critically Reflective Teacher” — a classic. Changed me. http://is.gd/fCrVs #lrnchat
11:23:24 am myFootpath: @sifowler Thanks for a great chat! #lrnchat
11:23:24 am kelly_smith01: RT @TerrenceWing: Q3) Engage the learner from the design process through to the evaluation and post learning activities #lrnchat
11:23:28 am StephanieDaul: Q4) Connect everything back to a buz issue you are solving for…if you can’t-take it out #lrnchat
11:23:39 am mrch0mp3rs: The challenge I have is like quitting smoking. Everybody quits… until you light up again. How do you keep from lighting up again? #lrnchat
11:28:41 am myFootpath: Gotta run for a webinar… thanks everyone for the great chat! #lrnchat
11:28:55 am nmeffert: Q3) I agree with @eshwaranv – work on yourself! You can’t create learning in others if you can’t create it in yourself. #lrnchat
11:29:09 am lynnwernham: RT @c4lpt: #lrnchat Q3) Only produce training when it is really necessary, when’s that? see @hjarche http://bit.ly/aDy1ft
11:29:11 am daviddlacroix: @myFootpath Later! #lrnchat
11:29:35 am dtssmithers: RT @techherding: Q3) Ask two questions post-mortem. “What went well?” “What could go better?” (Classic project-management tool.) #lrnchat
11:29:38 am urbie: #lrnchat Q3 trap avoidance: brutal honesty comes wayyyyyyy tooooooo late.. instead, ask for forthright cooperation.. from step 0..
11:29:55 am olliegardener: RT @TerrenceWing: Q3) Start with the end in mind #lrnchat
11:29:55 am tonya_simmons: @mrch0mp3rs well then I probably spent enough time as a journalist to develop a pretty thick skin #lrnchat
11:30:08 am Rsuominen: RT @dbolen: q3 ask “does this work?” “am I missing something here?” #lrnchat
11:30:24 am TerrenceWing: Training and learning are two different action verbs. #lrnchat
11:30:40 am MichelleLavoie: RT @techherding: Q3) Ask two questions post-mortem. “What went well?” “What could go better?” (Classic project-management tool.) #lrnchat
11:30:53 am simbeckhampson: The mind that does not understand is the Buddha. There is no other… ~ Ma-Tsu. #gofigure #lrnchat
11:31:09 am LaurenLK: @lrnchat Q3: for any traps: always being a reflective practitioner. If a robot can teach itself to (cont…) http://trunc.it/bk4gk
11:31:24 am MichelleLavoie: Q3 Self reflection and a passion for lifelong learning #lrnchat
11:31:27 am nmeffert: RT @simbeckhampson: The mind that does not understand is the Buddha. There is no other… ~ Ma-Tsu. #gofigure #lrnchat
11:31:28 am dtssmithers: As Aristotle said: “Know Thyself” & Socrates: “The unexamined life is not worth living.” @eshwaranv Q3 B4 ?ing others, ? urself #lrnchat
11:31:37 am lrnchat: Q4) How do we build a “mindfulness” of the learning traps we fall into? How do stay open to change? #lrnchat
11:31:37 am drukid: RT @ckagy: Q3) Debrief yourself, not just your learners. <– SO TRUE. I used to do this in the coffee shop post class:) #lrnchat
11:31:55 am cpjobling: Q3) so reflection? Mirror, mirror on the wall, was that any good at all? #lrnchat
11:32:09 am 2GFred: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do we build a “mindfulness” of the learning traps we fall into? How do stay open to change? #lrnchat
11:32:09 am fredsheahan: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do we build a “mindfulness” of the learning traps we fall into? How do stay open to change? #lrnchat
11:32:11 am kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do we build a “mindfulness” of the learning traps we fall into? How do stay open to change? #lrnchat
11:32:16 am ckagy: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do we build a “mindfulness” of the learning traps we fall into? How do stay open to change? #lrnchat
11:32:19 am cpjobling: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do we build a “mindfulness” of the learning traps we fall into? How do stay open to change? #lrnchat
11:32:29 am drukid: Q4) Change? I’m tenured. What do you mean change? #lrnchat
11:32:32 am chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do we build a “mindfulness” of the learning traps we fall into? How do stay open to change? #lrnchat
11:32:36 am olliegardener: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do we build a “mindfulness” of the learning traps we fall into? How do stay open to change? #lrnchat
11:32:40 am briandusablon: Gotta run. Been fun people. Thanks for sharing. #lrnchat
11:32:41 am drukid: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do we build a “mindfulness” of the learning traps we fall into? How do stay open to change? #lrnchat
11:32:52 am urbie: #lrnchat Q3 trap avoidance: : stay hydrated .. too little: constipation. too much diarrhea. just right: creativity n no down time..
11:32:53 am c4lpt: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do we build a “mindfulness” of the learning traps we fall into? How do stay open to change? #lrnchat
11:32:57 am daviddlacroix: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do we build a “mindfulness” of the learning traps we fall into? How do stay open to change? #lrnchat
11:32:58 am michaelcjohnson: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do we build a “mindfulness” of the learning traps we fall into? How do stay open to change? #lrnchat
11:33:04 am theteachinggame: #lrnchat Q4) Stay open to change by recognizing our fear of it #lrnchat
11:33:09 am eshwaranv: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do we build a “mindfulness” of the learning traps we fall into? How do stay open to change? #lrnchat
11:33:17 am daviddlacroix: Sad LOL –> RT @drukid: Q4) Change? Im tenured. What do you mean change? #lrnchat
11:33:17 am dtssmithers: RT @lrnchat Q4) How do we build a “mindfulness” of the learning traps we fall into? How do stay open to change? #lrnchat #lrnchat
11:33:52 am nlkilkenny: Q3) Using the Google-type 20% time to work on valid and well designed products pays off. Especially if it’s value add to your work #lrnchat
11:33:53 am daviddlacroix: @briandusablon Bye, Brian! Stay dry… #lrnchat
11:33:55 am ckagy: Q4) the $64k question…#lrnchat
11:33:55 am simbeckhampson: Q4) Ask your learners to help you… form partnerships of life long learning… simple. #lrnchat
11:34:01 am onsSara: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do we build a “mindfulness” of the learning traps we fall into? How do stay open to change? #lrnchat
11:34:03 am eshwaranv: Q4) Listening, not hearing #lrnchat
11:34:04 am techherding: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do we build a “mindfulness” of the learning traps we fall into? How do stay open to change? #lrnchat
11:34:08 am Yorkoga_TE: Other people change, I adapt #lrnchat
11:34:10 am dtssmithers: Q4, continuous learning, even about things we disagree challenging ourselves & our own thoughts re:everything. #lrnchat
11:34:11 am cpjobling: Q4) “To be a good teacher you have to be a lifelong learner.” Don’t know who said that but it might have been heard in #plenk2010. #lrnchat
11:34:18 am mrch0mp3rs: Q4) Remember that learning is hard. Learn harder #lrnchat
11:34:27 am urbie: #lrnchat Q4 mindfulness in trap avoidance.. don’t strive for perfection. revel in what failure (yours and peers) reveals to you.. then share
11:34:33 am olliegardener: RT @eshwaranv: Q4) Listening, not hearing #lrnchat
11:34:43 am eshwaranv: Q4) Collaborating with peers and learners. #lrnchat
11:34:44 am fredsheahan: Q4) Always reward lifelong learning and exploration outside of org silos. Broader perspectives = fewer learning traps #lrnchat
11:34:55 am olliegardener: RT @Yorkoga_TE: Other people change, I adapt #lrnchat
11:34:57 am daviddlacroix: Q4) If we’re talking “mindfulness,” some of the oldest wisdom still holds: desire = suffering. #lrnchat
11:34:59 am chet_stevenson: Q4) How to be mindful of learning traps: Develop an evaluation system and learn from your mistakes (and others). Then don’t repeat #lrnchat
11:35:01 am techherding: Q4) Tell me what you’re certain about, and I’ll tell you what you should be questioning. #lrnchat
11:35:16 am dtssmithers: Q4, rubbing shoulders w/ppl who don’t agree w/me. discussing openly various ideas. #lrnchat
11:35:19 am mSenbetta: Q4) Focus on the value you add to the organization #lrnchat
11:35:34 am Rsuominen: Q4) Learn more, teach less. #lrnchat
11:35:37 am lress: RT @cpjobling: Q4) “To be a good teacher you have to be a lifelong learner.” might have heard in #plenk2010 #lrnchat
11:35:50 am hyperizeweb: @lrnchat Q4) By observing other learning environments we can see new ways to learn #lrnchat
11:36:07 am c4lpt: Q4) Question whether the way u’ve always produced a solution is the most appropriate way this time. If u say yes, ask urself again #lrnchat
11:36:19 am michaelcjohnson: Nice! RT @drukid Q4) Change? I’m tenured. What do you mean change? #lrnchat
11:36:20 am eshwaranv: @Rsuominen Learn more, teach better #lrnchat
11:36:20 am urbie: #lrnchat Q4 mindfulness in trap avoidance.. enroll in a class in fundamentals of acting [or anything else you know zip].. then take notes..
11:36:30 am gimboland: RT @cpjobling: Q1) How to sabotage learning? Assume that academics who’s promotion depends on measured research outputs is interested in teaching. #lrnchat
11:36:34 am TerrenceWing: In the words of Sun Tzu, know your battlefield: The Art of War. Ignorance & incompetence r the trnrs battlefield #lrnchat
11:36:39 am tonya_simmons: Q4) don’t automatically start fitting a course into the usual formula, step back and see if there might be a better, different way #lrnchat
11:36:45 am lynnwernham: Q4) share, listen, try new things, don’t worry too much about making mistakes #lrnchat
11:36:49 am eshwaranv: Collaboration -> RT @hyperizeweb: @lrnchat Q4) By observing other learning environments we can see new ways to learn #lrnchat
11:36:50 am daviddlacroix: Q4) So we need to be mindful of our learning desires as they arise, and where they might take us. #lrnchat
11:36:56 am mrch0mp3rs: Q4) Make inquiry, reflection and questioning a meme. Make the actionable responses to the meme a habit. #lrnchat
11:36:57 am nmeffert: Q4) We have to come to love change. That is, learn to find more joy than fear in it. #lrnchat
11:37:03 am nmeffert: RT @daviddlacroix: Q4) If we’re talking “mindfulness,” some of the oldest wisdom still holds: desire = suffering. #lrnchat
11:37:10 am tonya_simmons: Q4) working backwards from your desired results helps #lrnchat
11:37:11 am theteachinggame: RT @lynnwernham: Q4) share, listen, try new things, dont worry too much about making mistakes #lrnchat
11:37:17 am simbeckhampson: Very often a change of self is needed more than a change of scene… #lrnchat
11:37:26 am onsSara: Q4) Stay Mindful?>> process of maintaining accreditation keeps us ever evaluating, analyzing, adjusting #lrnchat
11:37:33 am theteachinggame: RT @nmeffert: Q4) We have to come to love change. That is, learn to find more joy than fear in it. #lrnchat
11:37:41 am eshwaranv: RT @theteachinggame: RT @lynnwernham: Q4) share, listen, try new things, dont worry too much about making mistakes #lrnchat
11:37:42 am urbie: #lrnchat Q4 mindfulness in trap avoidance.. best [i can think of] practice: write about a “true-ism” in your blog then tween its address..
11:37:44 am simbeckhampson: @TerrenceWing Top book, sits proudly on my bookcase🙂 #lrnchat
11:37:45 am dtssmithers: RT @techherding: Q4) Tell me what you’re certain about, and I’ll tell you what you should be questioning. #lrnchat
11:37:53 am michaelcjohnson: RT @simbeckhampson: Q4) Ask your learners to help you… form partnerships of life long learning… simple. #lrnchat
11:37:54 am olliegardener: q4) understand and connect with learners work-reality. What role does L&D play? Enable it! #lrnchat
11:38:05 am eshwaranv: True! -> RT @simbeckhampson: Very often a change of self is needed more than a change of scene… #lrnchat
11:38:25 am nmeffert: 4) Jesus said, “lest ye become like little children, you shall not be able to enter the kingdom of heaven.” The same applies here. #lrnchat
11:38:42 am urbie: #lrnchat Q4 mindfulness in trap avoidance.. invite commentary of something you do/know about what you do..
11:38:43 am dtssmithers: Q4, Don’t take yourself too seriously. Seriously! #lrnchat
11:38:46 am billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do we build a “mindfulness” of the learning traps we fall into? How do stay open to change? #lrnchat
11:38:54 am drukid: Q4) I’m not tenured:) But a few years back, I took an undergrad class just to observe…the experience motivated me for 5 years! #lrnchat
11:39:11 am Rsuominen:🙂 @eshwaranv: @Rsuominen Learn more, teach better #lrnchat
11:39:21 am eshwaranv: RT @urbie: #lrnchat Q4 mindfulness in trap avoidance.. invite commentary of something you do/know about what you do..
11:39:23 am olliegardener: RT @dtssmithers: Q4, Dont take yourself too seriously. Seriously! #lrnchat
11:39:35 am TerrenceWing: 1 of my favs too RT @simbeckhampson Top book, sits proudly on my bookcase🙂 #lrnchat
11:40:05 am nmeffert: RT @simbeckhampson: Very often a change of self is needed more than a change of scene… #lrnchat
11:40:10 am simbeckhampson: @nmeffert 100% – And the goal of a lifetime is continued growth, not adulthood ~ Rene Dubos #lrnchat
11:40:22 am dtssmithers: Q4, Promoting from within is gr8; however, hiring new blood always serves as a catalyst challenging assumptions & status quo! #lrnchat
11:40:35 am ckagy: Q4) Keep looking for interesting stuff! Change is easier if it’s intriguing, just like it is for our students. #lrnchat
11:40:36 am olliegardener: RT @TerrenceWing: Q3) Create opportunities for Learning instead of cramming an agenda. #lrnchat
11:40:53 am nmeffert: RT @simbeckhampson: @nmeffert 100% – And the goal of a lifetime is continued growth, not adulthood ~ Rene Dubos #lrnchat
11:41:04 am billcush: Q4) Keeping reading books, articles, blogs, #lrnchat, etc..The more you learn the more likely you are to change.
11:41:18 am HJFantaskis: RT @cpjobling: Q1) How to sabotage learning? Assume that academics who’s promotion depends on measured research outputs is interested in teaching. #lrnchat
11:41:18 am eshwaranv: RT @nmeffert: RT @simbeckhampson: @nmeffert 100% – And the goal of a lifetime is continued growth, not adulthood ~ Rene Dubos #lrnchat
11:41:19 am cpjobling: Q4) “Nobody’s perfect” (Some Like it Hot, RIP Tony!) #lrnchat
11:41:27 am urbie: #lrnchat Q4 mindfulness in trap avoidance.. stop using acronyms. speak plainly. then listen.
11:41:50 am LaurenLK: @lrnchat Q4: ‘the proof is in the pudding’. Never forget to look at the results, critically.
11:41:50 am Yorkoga_TE: You can paint a pumpkin black, that don’t make it a bowling ball ~ My Dad. Challenge assumptions #lrnchat
11:41:50 am eshwaranv: I have! -> RT @billcush: Q4) Keeping reading books, articles, blogs, #lrnchat, etc..The more you learn the more likely you are to change.
11:42:07 am simbeckhampson: @nmeffert Lol… cheers… love always appreciated🙂 I play under the waves, you on them I see… (same element) #lrnchat
11:42:30 am Yorkoga_TE: @cpjobling I knew Tony, he called me Scarf (long story). RIP #lrnchat
11:42:36 am olliegardener: q4) utilise the opportunity for learning that comes with “new blood”, give them a go at at induction #lrnchat
11:42:44 am 2GFred: RT @billcush: Q4) Keeping reading books, articles, blogs, #lrnchat, etc..The more you learn the more likely you are to change. #lrnchat
11:42:46 am onsSara: argh, true! RT @dtssmithers: Promoting from within is gr8; however hiring new blood a catalyst challenging assumptions & status quo #lrnchat
11:42:54 am drukid: Gotta run to a staff meeting. Be well folks.. see teachnologist.info for more musings GO YANKS! GO JETS! #lrnchat
11:43:09 am pllatreille: RT @cpjobling: Q3) so reflection? Mirror, mirror on the wall, was that any good at all? #lrnchat
11:43:10 am Rsuominen: Tip of the Day RT @olliegardener RT @dtssmithers: Q4, Dont take yourself too seriously. Seriously! #lrnchat
11:43:25 am StephanieSarkis: RT @simbeckhampson: Very often a change of self is needed more than a change of scene… #lrnchat
11:43:25 am menjivar: RT @olliegardener: Q4) Don’t bottleneck learning, however much of an expert you are. Value and enable learners potential for mutual support #lrnchat
11:43:30 am onsSara: enjoyed chat today, thanks all – heading out a little early #lrnchat
11:43:54 am pllatreille: RT @cpjobling: Q2) The inertia trap: “This is how I learned this so it must be good enough for you!” #lrnchat
11:43:54 am WasimB1: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do we build a “mindfulness” of the learning traps we fall into? How do stay open to change? #lrnchat
11:44:12 am fredsheahan: Q4) Get buy-in from both learners and SMEs. Their time and effort is your currency for success. #lrnchat
11:44:16 am urbie: #lrnchat Q4 mindfulness in trap avoidance.. take off your shoes [given good hygiene] then wriggle your toes in your carpet. be in the moment
11:44:22 am MenjvAR: RT @olliegardener: Don’t bottleneck learning, however much of an expert u are. Value and enable learners potential 4 mutual support #lrnchat
11:44:23 am menjivar: RT @olliegardener: Don’t bottleneck learning, however much of an expert u are. Value and enable learners potential 4 mutual support #lrnchat
11:44:32 am 2GFred: Q4) Continual learning: You’ll be the same person 5 years from now, except for influence of books you read & the people you meet. #lrnchat
11:44:38 am simbeckhampson: Environment: Prepare the soil well. Plant the seeds. Care for them with your heart. Nurture their growth. Rejoice in THEIR success. #lrnchat
11:44:44 am dbolen: off to do good (I hope) enjoyed the chat #lrnchat
11:45:08 am daviddlacroix: RT @urbie: Q4 mindfulness: take off your shoes [given good hygiene] then wriggle your toes in your carpet. be in the moment #lrnchat
11:45:10 am AmpChats: Latest trend sweeping German schools… #fun #innovation #creativity #lrnchat http://bit.ly/aQWKoP
11:45:20 am simbeckhampson: RT @dbolen: off to do good (I hope) enjoyed the chat < may the force be with you… #lrnchat
11:45:28 am olliegardener: @2GFred Now that is a reason to be social!!🙂 #lrnchat
11:45:39 am lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too. #lrnchat
11:45:51 am urbie: #lrnchat Q4 mindfulness in trap avoidance.. get a coffee table book on “great disasters in history” then put it in your cubicle..
11:45:52 am cpjobling: A warm welcome to my colleagues @pllatreille, @gimboland and @chris_hall! Go Swansea U! #lrnchat
11:46:02 am Rsuominen: Agreed RT @urbie: #lrnchat Q4 stop using acronyms. speak plainly.
11:46:13 am 2GFred: @olliegardener It includes #lrnchat for sure! #lrnchat
11:46:15 am olliegardener: RT @simbeckhampson: Prep. soil well. Plant the seeds. Care for them w your heart. Nurture their growth. Rejoice in THEIR success. #lrnchat
11:46:19 am eshwaranv: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too. #lrnchat
11:46:37 am michaelcjohnson: RT @2GFred: Q4) Continual learning: You’ll be the same person 5 years from now, except for influence of books you read & the people you meet. #lrnchat
11:46:39 am daviddlacroix: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too. #lrnchat
11:46:50 am ckagy: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too. #lrnchat
11:46:53 am kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too. #lrnchat
11:47:12 am tonya_simmons: Tonya Goth Simmons, project developer, Phasient Learning Technologies, Ames, Iowa www.phasient.com – launching new LMS soon #lrnchat
11:47:16 am urbie: #lrnchat qwrap: urbie delgado, instructional designer, washington dc, focus: re-humanizing elearning; driving cross-country next week!!!
11:47:20 am eshwaranv: Qwrap) Vytheeshwaran Vedagiri, Science teacher from Chennai, India. I blog at eshwaranv.wordpress.com #lrnchat
11:47:36 am mSenbetta: RT @menjivar: Dont bottleneck learning, however much of an expert u are. Value and enable learners potential 4 mutual support #lrnchat
11:47:42 am simbeckhampson: Great #lrnchat session… Paul Simbeck-Hampson. Learnscape Architect. Bavaria. (www.simbeckhampson.com)
11:47:48 am cpjobling: Qwrap) This has been Chris Jobling, Humble Learner, Swansea University. Adventures in #plenk2010 at http://blog.cpjobling.org. TTFN #lrnchat
11:47:56 am michaelcjohnson: Really enjoyed the chat: will work on “mindfullness” of the traps in my own work, teaching, & learning. Thanks again! #lrnchat
11:48:09 am michaelcjohnson: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too. #lrnchat
11:48:11 am eshwaranv: Thanks to all for a great discussion at #lrnchat
11:48:14 am billcush: Maybe this is why I need a mirror. RT @simbeckhampson: Very often a change of self is needed more than a change of scene… #lrnchat
11:48:33 am simbeckhampson: @olliegardener the gardening resonated eh!🙂 #lrnchat
11:48:35 am myFootpath: Ditto! Sorry I had to leave early! @eshwaranv Thanks to all for a great discussion at #lrnchat
11:48:38 am mrch0mp3rs: Time already? Aaron Silvers, just posted a simple governance model for learning communities; Feedback plz! http://beard.it/bLCpHf #lrnchat
11:49:10 am fredsheahan: Qwrap) Fred Sheahan, Learning Consultant, Minneapolis, MN – thanks to everyone for the weekly inspiration & great ideas! #lrnchat
11:49:13 am olliegardener: Enjoyed #lrnchat today. Join my quest for social learning on http://blog.noddlesoft.com/. First blog post ever! appreciate feedback #lrnchat
11:49:19 am nmeffert: Qwrap) Entrepreneur, teacher, writer, speaker. www.nathanmeffert.com is my blog. Check it out. Also, let’s connect @nmmeffert. #lrnchat
11:49:20 am daviddlacroix: Qwrap) David D. LaCroix, learning specialist and recovering academic in DC http://linkd.in/bBqkdl Current work: SoMe & job seekers #lrnchat
11:49:23 am TerrenceWing: Terrence Wing- Los Angeles, CA, Leadership and Management Dev at Liquid Learn #lrnchat
11:49:32 am theteachinggame: Qwrap) Thanks for a great chat! Check out my blog for teachers and learners of all types at http://www.theteachinggameblog.com/ #lrnchat
11:49:45 am dtssmithers: </Qwrap> Travis Smith, Atlanta, re-designing my website/blog if anyone wants to help! Instructional Designer, Proj Mgr #lrnchat
11:49:56 am mSenbetta: Mahelet Senbetta, Instructional Designer, Lake Forest, Illinios, Focus on Employee Development #lrnchat
11:50:01 am olliegardener: I’m Ollie Gardener by the way, entrepreneur and social learning enthusiast! #lrnchat
11:50:12 am techherding: Qwrap) Dick Carlson — Pug Daddy, Learning Old Guy, Adopter Of Social Media Fledglings, Annoying and Obtuse at TechHerding.com #lrnchat
11:50:14 am nmeffert: Thank you all for a great, great, great talk. High energy. Love it. It feeds me. Couldn’t do it without all of you! Thanks! #lrnchat
11:50:15 am WasimB1: QWrap) A Learning and development professional working for BSkyB. Looking to make connections with other L&D pros and learn more #lrnchat
11:50:27 am eshwaranv: Qwrap) Would like to hear your thoughts on my posts at http://eshwaranv.wordpress.com #lrnchat
11:50:28 am michaelcjohnson: Qwrap) I’m a sr. instructional designer at BYU’s Center for Teaching & Learning (@byuctl) love education and learning! #lrnchat
11:50:31 am 2GFred: Fred Stevens. Los Angeles. Passionate about learning / sharing. Appreciate the chat today, as always. A lot to think about. #lrnchat
11:50:36 am mrch0mp3rs: Just want to say…. learning trap = fail. #lrnchat
11:50:52 am olliegardener: @simbeckhampson I did!! Maybe unconsciously though – the mind works in mysterious ways🙂 #lrnchat
11:50:56 am Rsuominen: Riitta Suominen, #eLearning consultant from Finland — thanks for #lrnchat
11:50:58 am briggzay: Qwrap) Thanks for the chat! Christian Briggs, #lrnchat lurker, PhD student @iusoic new media theory instructor, co-founder of @SociaLens.
11:51:37 am mSenbetta: Good discussion. Bye for now. #lrnchat
11:51:44 am moehlert: #lrnchat QWrap) sorry dropped off for a sec..the perils of doing this at work. Mark Oehlert from Washington DC. Anth. Hist. Adv Tech. Etc
11:51:58 am bschlenker: Brent Schlenker – PhxAZ – DevLearn 2010 – Serious about serious games, social media, mLearning, and eLearning! #lrnchat
11:52:06 am eshwaranv: @myFootpath Nice chatting with you too on #lrnchat
11:52:11 am simbeckhampson: @billcush Either that or you’re… > http://bit.ly/bV8KEW😮 #lrnchat
11:52:14 am mrch0mp3rs: YAY > RT @olliegardener: Join my quest for social learning on http://blog.noddlesoft.com/ First blog post ever! appreciate feedback #lrnchat
11:52:38 am cpjobling: RT @chris_hall: @cpjobling A 12 step plan? http://tiny.cc/smwv5. Yes, but we need one for “bad (University) teachers anonymous”. #lrnchat
11:52:46 am urbie: #lrnchat qwrap #2.. my blog link’s off http://www.ficacy.com
11:53:26 am billcush: Qwrap) Bill C. Mountain View, CA. Sales training for hotel pros. Runner. Skier. Reader. Occasional troglodyte. #lrnchat
11:53:40 am devlearn: DevLearn – SanFrancisco, CA – eLearning Peep Aggregator – Passionate about bringing people together to learn #lrnchat http://devlearn10.com
11:54:00 am billcush: tweet of the day!! RT @simbeckhampson: @billcush Either that or you’re… > http://bit.ly/bV8KEW😮 #lrnchat
11:54:03 am simbeckhampson: @olliegardener …putting something into a learner’s subconscious context helps motivation x10 #lrnchat
11:54:28 am srleosalazar: Qwrap) Sorry to have missed this session!!! Leo Salazar, Amsterdam, Effective Intercultural Business http://bit.ly/cPAQh5 #lrnchat
11:54:52 am olliegardener: @simbeckhampson I feel targeted! LOL. Thanks for a great chat🙂 #lrnchat
11:55:26 am simbeckhampson: @billcush lol… I should take up fortune telling – (giggles), cheers (waves) #lrnchat
11:55:35 am Diane_Banister: RT @c4lpt: RT: @moehlert #lrnchat Has anyone actually ever ‘delivered learning’? Have u recv’d a box of it? Signed for it? Seen a truck of it?<exactly!
11:55:38 am simbeckhampson: @olliegardener Adios… #lrnchat
11:56:02 am catherinecronin: RT @c4lpt: Q4) Question whether the way u’ve always produced a solution is the most appropriate way this time. If u say yes, ask urself again #lrnchat
11:56:06 am kelly_smith01: Qwrap) Kelly Smith ISD Consultant #lrnchat
11:56:21 am simbeckhampson: @srleosalazar There’s always the late session… #positivethinking #lrnchat
11:56:52 am daviddlacroix: RT @simbeckhampson: @olliegardener putting sth into learners subconscious helps motivation x10 | Inception = a learning movie. #lrnchat
11:57:15 am eshwaranv: @nmeffert Same here. Nice meeting you here on #lrnchat
11:58:26 am lrnchat: Thank you for joining us on #lrnchat. Pls invite others

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