Transcript 12-August 2010 (early)

10:32:55 am lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been? Q0 warm up after the rules.
10:32:58 am cpjobling: RT @LandDDave Are you a #Learning Professional? Are you a geek? Well then click this link for an intro to #lrnchat! http://bit.ly/cDiP4b!
10:33:14 am torriedunlap: @briandusablon it’s my first time on a plane with wi-fi. So cool! And happy I don’t have to miss #lrnchat!
10:33:18 am janet_frg: RT @JamesMcLuckie: RT @janet_frg: @simbeckhampson Policy is never fun (well… hardly ever) Let’s make it fun! <agreed! #lrnchat
10:33:32 am MissCheska: @simbeckhampson What is #lrnchat?
10:33:36 am lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1. Introduce yourself. (We do this again at the end). Location? Focus? Fave topics?
10:33:38 am briandusablon: RT @LandDDave: Are you a #Learning Professional? Are you a geek? Click this link for an intro to #lrnchat! http://bit.ly/cDiP4b #lrnchat
10:33:56 am collentine: @z_rose ofcourse not, will hold it very dull and slow since you’re not here;) #lrnchat
10:34:12 am sahana2802: RT @lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been? Q0 warm up after the rules.
10:34:35 am lrnchat: Rule3. When writing, complete thoughts help followers outside chat learn from you. #lrnchat
10:34:57 am simbeckhampson: @MissCheska follow the hastag for the next 90 minutes… its all about learning…(from each other) #lrnchat
10:35:13 am lrnchat: Rule4. Remember to include the #lrnchat in all posts. http://tweetchat.com http://tweetgrid.com & http://twubs.com work well
10:35:26 am lrnchat: Rule2. [try to] stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 20 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
10:35:43 am CraigTaylor74: R@lrnchat: #lrnchat: 1.Craig Taylor, Learning Technologist, Cheshire
10:36:01 am urbie: #lrnchat urbie delgado, washington, d.c., instructional designer, focus = enabling socialization in online learning [through virtual worlds]
10:36:12 am briandusablon: Brian Dusablon, Performance Consultant, Learning Ninja, Rogue Information Warrior. I like helping people. And pizza. And beer. #lrnchat
10:36:24 am torriedunlap: #lrnchat Torrie, currently on a flight cross country, director of a nat’l training ctr for child care professionals.
10:36:50 am Rsuominen: Please excuse increase of tweets: it is time for #lrnchat
10:36:58 am LearnTribe: #lrnchat intro – Gordon McLeod from Scotland, Learning Tech, interests learner engagement & innovation. Today’s focus #OER
10:37:15 am lrnchat: Rule5. Periodically RT questions so others outside #lrnchat know what you’re talking about so they can chime in too.
10:37:19 am JamesMcLuckie: 1. James, Edinburgh. Manage an online resource supporting L&D professionals. Current interest is finishing my dissertation! #lrnchat
10:37:37 am briankotts: #lrnchat On all things Ed.
10:37:50 am LandDDave: David Kelly, Training Director for a NYC Bank, looking for my next career adventure! #lrnchat
10:37:52 am chet_stevenson: 1. Chester Stevenson, Do-it-all trainer, Columbia, Mo. #lrnchat
10:37:52 am lrnchat: Rule6. On #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm & irony welcome though. Really.
10:37:55 am owenferguson: Q0) Owen – product manager for @goodpractice based in edinburgh – focus is online, informal and social learning #lrnchat
10:38:09 am StephanieDaul: Get ready for lots of tweets about learning policies on this week’s #lrnchat
10:38:19 am simbeckhampson: Paul Simbeck-Hampson, a multi-faceted learner type, from the UK, living in Bavaria… http://bit.ly/7oXTnE #lrnchat
10:39:08 am simbeckhampson: @MissCheska Official Blog here… https://lrnchat.wordpress.com/ #lrnchat
10:39:09 am LearnNuggets: Kevin Thorn – eLearn design, dev, grahpics, cartoonist, animator, and survivor of the brutal Midsouth heatwave. #lrnchat
10:39:18 am lrnchat: Rule7. 10 min before the end of #lrnchat, reintroduce yourself. Links, requests, & shameless plugs welcome, too.
10:39:18 am LizPreedy: Liz Preedy, Germany, Current focus – safety / human falability #lrnchat
10:39:28 am StephanieDaul: Stephanie Daul, Instructional Designer, Chicago, IL – Fav Topics this week: Sales Training #lrnchat
10:39:32 am Rsuominen: Hello all! Riitta Suominen from Tampere. Fave topics are #eLearning, course design, and writing. #lrnchat
10:39:41 am collentine: #lrnchat starts now for interested. R1. Josef – PR/Marketing student, Organizational Learning, Education 2.0
10:39:50 am simbeckhampson: lots of familiar faces… nice to have today๐Ÿ™‚ #lrnchat
10:40:23 am lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
10:40:23 am simbeckhampson: @collentine Welcome my new friend – hope you enjoy! #lrnchat
10:40:25 am StephanieDaul: RT @simbeckhampson: lots of familiar faces… nice to have today๐Ÿ™‚ <Welcome the new faces as well #lrnchat
10:40:50 am LandDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week? #lrnchat
10:41:16 am kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, ISD Consutant – North Texas – Lurking today have meeting #lrnchat
10:41:50 am GillianP: Intro: Gillian. Learning designer (HE, CPD, international). Currently tidying up an online capstone #lrnchat
10:41:57 am LearnNuggets: Q0) Learned to put sticky notes on fruit and snacks in the pantry otherwise I get yelled at for eating the wrong snacks! #lrnchat
10:42:05 am Edstonestreet: Q0) #lrnchat we are not an eLearning company we are a platform which can be used for eLearning…..
10:42:11 am urbie: #lrnchat Q#0.. learned about petagogy (instructional design for dogs)..
10:42:17 am simbeckhampson: @StephanieDaul Of course… most correct๐Ÿ™‚ #lrnchat
10:42:29 am briandusablon: I’ve learned a lot about what’s coming from @mrch0mp3rs and others who were at #ifest. I’m intrigued, cautiously optimistic. #lrnchat
10:42:35 am simbeckhampson: @LearnNuggets Love it! #lrnchat
10:42:40 am torriedunlap: #lrnchat I relearned that over- prep is my key to staying relaxed and in the moment at work.
10:42:42 am LizPreedy: Currently re-learning how good it is to learn from stories of other people’s experiences #lrnchat
10:42:43 am chet_stevenson: Q0) This week I learned the true meaning of Accelerated Learning. #lrnchat
10:43:05 am owenferguson: Q0) Learned to publish h264/MPEG 4 video in a new flash based player streaming through Amazon S3 – by trial and error of course … #lrnchat
10:43:17 am StephanieDaul: RT @briandusablon: Ive learned a lot about whats coming from @mrch0mp3rs and others who were at #ifest. <ditto #lrnchat
10:43:26 am LandDDave: Q0) I learned that I wish I could have attended #ifest. Great Tweets coming out of there. #lrnchat
10:43:36 am JamesMcLuckie: Today I learned that I really must tidy up my CSS code sheets. They’re in a frightful state! #lrnchat
10:43:41 am JudithELS: Sorry for the flurry of tweets but I’m just about to join the weekly LearnChat. Please join us if you like #lrnchat
10:43:42 am LearnNuggets: @simbeckhampson School started and I mistakenly ate the last apple and last two Samoa girl scout cookies. Boy was I in trouble! #lrnchat
10:43:44 am collentine: @q1 learnt a lot about Amplify and how discussions can be put in focus on this blog-platform #lrnchat
10:44:06 am simbeckhampson: I’ve learned – that it’s not what you have in your life but who you have in your life that counts. #lrnchat
10:44:12 am CraigTaylor74: Q0) I’ve learnt that a running gait analysis is very worthwhile prior to buying new running shoes. #lrnchat
10:44:13 am socialtech: #lrnchat q0) I learnt this quote has power (from #lpf10) “What if we train people and they leave? What if we don’t and they stay…”
10:44:39 am collentine: @simbeckhampson I’m sure I will enjoy this chat, looks like a bunch of nice and interesting people here #lrnchat
10:44:40 am simbeckhampson: @LearnNuggets Lucky to be alive by the sounds of it๐Ÿ˜ฎ naughty naughty, must try harder #lrnchat
10:44:41 am briankotts: Q0) Good Teaching: The Top 10 Requirements http://bit.ly/9t34EE #lrnchat
10:44:41 am LearnTribe: q0) this week I’ve learned to update #Moodle resources on a live Linux server remotely, without IT support #lrnchat
10:44:50 am LearnNuggets: Q0) Learned how to import .flv into ANY eLearn dev tool with independent player controls. #lrnchat
10:44:56 am Edstonestreet: Nice! RT @simbeckhampson I’ve learned – that it’s not what you have in your life but who you have in your life that counts. #lrnchat
10:45:01 am briandusablon: Q0) I learned that there’s no such thing as a “side business.” It’s just another business. Takes just as much time to do it right. #lrnchat
10:45:03 am JudithELS: Judith Christian-Carter from Warwickshire, England an all-round L&D’er. #lrnchat
10:45:18 am simbeckhampson: RT @briankotts: Q0) Good Teaching: The Top 10 Requirements http://bit.ly/9t34EE #lrnchat
10:45:30 am rebeccalcorn: RT @JudithELS: Sorry for the flurry of tweets but I’m just about to join the weekly LearnChat. Please join us if you like #lrnchat
10:45:30 am Rsuominen: Q0) I begin to understand why so many instructors run the same show day after day. #lrnchat
10:45:35 am simbeckhampson: @JudithELS yahoo… you made it๐Ÿ™‚ #lrnchat
10:45:45 am LearnNuggets: @simbeckhampson Ha! Yep…the morning kitchen and pantry is a battlefield I tell ya! #lrnchat
10:45:50 am simbeckhampson: @Edstonestreet thanks… and very true๐Ÿ˜‰ #lrnchat
10:45:51 am lrnchat: Q1) What are some ridiculous/strange policies you’ve heard about for social media? #lrnchat
10:45:52 am janet_frg: Q0) I learned that my laptop does not like it when the temperature is over 100 #lrnchat
10:45:52 am JamesMcLuckie: RT @socialtech: “What if we train people and they leave? What if we dont and they stay…” < Interesting. #lrnchat
10:45:54 am JudithELS: Q0) What I have learned this week is that Instructional Designers are just here to be bullied! #lrnchat
10:46:24 am JudithELS: @simbeckhampson Thanks, yes, I made it JIT!! #lrnchat
10:46:25 am cpjobling: Chris Jobling, Lecturer at the Swansea University in Wales. #lrnchat
10:46:27 am Rsuominen: Q0) It is so time-consuming to tailor a course for a new target group. #lrnchat
10:46:30 am StephanieDaul: Q0) This week I learned that everyone wants things to their preference – let them customize #lrnchat
10:46:35 am LandDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are some ridiculous/strange policies youve heard about for social media? #lrnchat
10:46:39 am JamesMcLuckie: RT @JudithELS: Q0) What I have learned this week is that Instructional Designers are just here to be bullied! < No – what happened? #lrnchat
10:46:40 am LearnNuggets: RT @briandusablon: Q0) learned theres no such thing as a “side business.” Its another business. Takes as much time to do right. #lrnchat
10:46:42 am JudithELS: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are some ridiculous/strange policies youve heard about for social media? #lrnchat
10:46:47 am owenferguson: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are some ridiculous/strange policies youve heard about for social media? – that it’s banned #lrnchat
10:46:49 am simbeckhampson: @janet_frg learnt that too a few weeks back… had to install a fan, ended up putting the usb in the freezer for 30 mins !!! #lrnchat
10:47:05 am janet_frg: @collentine good to see you here – and thanks for good conversation over on Amplify #lrnchat
10:47:23 am LizPreedy: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are some ridiculous/strange policies youve heard about for social media? #lrnchat
10:47:31 am torriedunlap: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are some ridiculous/strange policies you’ve heard about for social media? #lrnchat
10:47:32 am LearnNuggets: Q1) We should control and moderate the conversation. #lrnchat
10:47:41 am JamesMcLuckie: Q1. That some are banned and some are allowed … and everyone gets extremely confused. #lrnchat
10:47:42 am frankcalberg: Regarding Q1: I learned about the poll app on LinkedIn from @lindegaard I tried the tool out with,for example http://bit.ly/bTxSiW #lrnchat
10:47:48 am collentine: @q1 that some Social Media is allowed whilst other is considered bad #lrnchat
10:47:58 am janet_frg: @simbeckhampson usb in the freezer sounds like desperate measures! #lrnchat
10:48:01 am Dave_Ferguson: I’m especially entertained by people with six Twitter IDs ranting on about how social media are worthless. #lrnchat
10:48:21 am JamesMcLuckie: RT @LearnNuggets: Q1) We should control and moderate the conversation. < Indeed. Talk about missing the point. #lrnchat
10:48:24 am Edstonestreet: Q1) #lrnchat Any policy that does not embrace SoMe is misguided. If you embrace it you can influence it, if you don’t you have no control!
10:48:31 am chet_stevenson: Q1) Policy – We want to make the customers more informed… but we don’t want to use social media. #lrnchat
10:48:33 am rebeccalcorn: Q1) That no one can post anything related to the buisness unless they first check with the compliance officer. #lrnchat
10:48:48 am LearnTribe: Q1) Staff may not use social media during working hours – when institution has presence on FB, Twitter, etc. #lrnchat
10:48:56 am collentine: @janet_frg thx. Same to you, enjoyed that conversation and hope to have a few more with you later on! #lrnchat
10:49:14 am Rsuominen: RT @JamesMcLuckie: Q1. That some are banned and some are allowed … and everyone gets extremely confused. #lrnchat
10:49:19 am briandusablon: Q1) Policies regarding SM are redundant. Why not just a communication policy: “Don’t do anything stupid.” And it covers all forms. #lrnchat
10:49:26 am LearnNuggets: Q1) SoMe in the workplace should be like break time at certain prescribed times during the day. #lrnchat
10:49:31 am CraigTaylor74: Q1) We’ve installed software to allow granular access to employees…. but still won’t allow them access with a business case! #lrnchat
10:49:34 am InSyncEU: #lrnchat – David Smith, Leeds, West Yorkshire – Helping clients move F2F training online… upskilling for the online virtual classroom
10:49:49 am briankotts: Q1) 10 reasons NOT to ban social media in organisations http://bit.ly/d7Wqbs /via @c4lpy #lrnchat
10:50:09 am LearnNuggets: Q1) Only “certified” individuals may represent the brand. Not just any employee. !?!?!?! #lrnchat
10:50:22 am LandDDave: Q1) I actually heard about a company that blocked all social media sites… except Linkedin. #lrnchat
10:50:33 am simbeckhampson: Q1) That were going to share all your data publicly and assign a new buzz word… ‘social graph’๐Ÿ˜ฎ #lrnchat
10:50:39 am NYChase: Chase Sinsuan, Learning Strategy Mgr for a BPO in the Philippines, Filipino adult learners, my 1st time on #lrnchat
10:50:42 am JudithELS: Q1) A set of rules all starting with the word ‘Don’t …’ #lrnchat
10:50:46 am LandDDave: RT @LearnNuggets: Q1) Only “certified” individuals may represent the brand. Not just any employee. !?!?!?! << I’ve heard that too! #lrnchat
10:50:51 am Dave_Ferguson: Some workplaces have a kind of social media Calvinism: deep-seated fear that someone might enjoy himself. #lrnchat
10:50:59 am weblearning: In Dubai Flickr is filtered but not Facebook. #lrnchat
10:51:04 am simbeckhampson: @janet_frg Oh yes!!! But it worked! #lrnchat
10:51:16 am InSyncEU: #lrnchat – Q0 – I learned that the links in Adobe Connect stay live even on a recording….
10:51:29 am JudithELS: @NYChase Welcome & I hope you enjoy it #lrnchat
10:51:33 am briandusablon: Scary! > RT @Dave_Ferguson: workplaces have a kind of social media Calvinism: deep-seated fear that someone might enjoy himself. #lrnchat
10:51:39 am rebeccalcorn: @LearnNuggets Because the org doesn’t trust all people the represent the brand positively. #lrnchat
10:51:42 am simbeckhampson: @Dave_Ferguson Is that Calvin as in Waterson?๐Ÿ™‚ #lrnchat
10:51:43 am dbolen: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Some workplaces have a kind of social media Calvinism: deep-seated fear that someone might enjoy himself. #Lrnchat
10:51:48 am StephanieDaul: @NYChase Welcome! Join the chat. What are some ridiculous/strange policies youve heard about for social media? #lrnchat
10:52:06 am JudithELS: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Some workplaces have a kind of social media Calvinism: deep-seated fear that someone might enjoy himself. <Ha #lrnchat
10:52:07 am larshyland: #lrnchat Q1) Forcing people to post/contribute when they lack a true motivation to share
10:52:11 am JamesMcLuckie: RT @LandDDave: 1) Org .. blocked all social media sites… except Linkedin < Where feeds from other SoMe apps are clearly visible! #lrnchat
10:52:16 am NYChase: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are some ridiculous/strange policies you’ve heard about for social media? #lrnchat
10:52:21 am latelierdelisse: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Some workplaces have a kind of social media Calvinism: deep-seated fear that someone might enjoy himself. #lrnchat
10:52:27 am LandDDave: Q1) My favorite company SoMe line so far “Everything you say online can be held against you” #lrnchat
10:52:33 am simbeckhampson: RT @JudithELS: Q1) A set of rules all starting with the word ‘Don’t …’ #lrnchat < like it, positive start๐Ÿ˜‰
10:52:36 am LearnTribe: @JudithELS don’t … think, engage, communicate, help, support, learn … how am I doing? #lrnchat
10:53:47 am simbeckhampson: @rebeccalcorn …or that the org does not trust the people (full stop)๐Ÿ˜ฎ #lrnchat
10:53:51 am rebeccalcorn: To represent the brand positively, not the represent the brand positively. Doublecheck before pressing send! #lrnchat
10:53:55 am JudithELS: RT @LearnTribe: @JudithELS dont … think, engage, communicate, help, support, learn … how am I doing? <Spot on & more! #lrnchat
10:54:00 am owenferguson: RT @larshyland: Q1) Forcing people to post/contribute when they lack a true motivation to share<that takes a special kind of genius #lrnchat
10:54:07 am sahana2802: Just back from a longish call…Trying to catch up on what I missed…#lrnchat
10:54:10 am Rsuominen: Sounds like a good general rule RT @briandusablon Q1) Why not just a communication policy: “Don’t do anything stupid.” #lrnchat
10:54:11 am NYChase: Q1: company has Twitter and FB fan page but these sites are blocked by IT. Then company tweets to fan/follow them. #lrnchat
10:54:33 am sahana2802: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Some workplaces have a kind of social media Calvinism: deep-seated fear that someone might enjoy himself. #lrnchat
10:54:35 am frankcalberg: Sorry – my input was meant for response to Q0 #lrnchat
10:54:37 am mik3yv: RT @JudithELS: Q1) A set of rules all starting with the word ‘Don’t …’ #lrnchat
10:55:11 am StephanieDaul: Q1) Think Social Media is about the company and not about the people #lrnchat
10:55:30 am collentine: RT @NYChase: Q1: company has Twitter and FB fan page but these sites are blocked by IT. Then company tweets to fan/follow them #lrnchat
10:55:32 am GillianP: Q1 Ignore all social media conversations for HE – only assess (clunky) LMS #lrnchat
10:55:34 am JudithELS: @simbeckhampson I couldn’t believe it when I saw the ‘policy’ & it was advice for HR professionals, yipes. #lrnchat
10:55:53 am Rsuominen:๐Ÿ™‚ RT @LandDDave: Q1) My favorite company SoMe line so far “Everything you say online can be held against you” #lrnchat
10:56:00 am NYChase: @JudithELS thanks! I’m trying to keep up with the stream. Lots of people here. #lrnchat
10:56:02 am simbeckhampson: @Rsuominen If people considered their actions in the same way as when they were f2f it may help… #lrnchat
10:56:09 am InSyncEU: #lrnchat – Q1 – Not so much a ploicy – but q asked – How can we formalise the informal learning that SoMe provides!!! heard ASTD ICE in May
10:56:25 am millennial_ID: Hey! Are you at my company?!๐Ÿ™‚ @NYChase: Q1: company has Twitter and FB fan page but these sites are blocked by IT. lrnchat
10:56:31 am carlcrisostomo: At a recent conference public sector HR told they had to manage what thier employees say on SM ..crazy #lrnchat
10:56:37 am simbeckhampson: @JudithELS scary! #lrnchat
10:56:52 am simbeckhampson: @InSyncEU DRINK!!!! #lrnchat
10:57:08 am owenferguson: @LandDDave: Q1) My favorite company SoMe line so far “Everything you say online can be held against you” < it can in a court of law #lrnchat
10:57:30 am millennial_ID: Q1) Managers can’t friend their subordinates on SoMe sites OUTSIDE of work!!! lrnchat
10:57:32 am JudithELS: @NYChase Don’t worry, you’ll soon get used to it – I was hopeless in my first session๐Ÿ™‚ #lrnchat
10:57:57 am InSyncEU: RT @simbeckhampson: @InSyncEU DRINK!!!! #lrnchat Hey Paul – sorry you lost me – how ya doing??
10:58:05 am billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are some ridiculous/strange policies you’ve heard about for social media? #lrnchat
10:58:09 am millennial_ID: Q1) Managers can’t friend their subordinates on SoMe sites OUTSIDE of work!!! #lrnchat
10:58:21 am JudithELS: RT @simbeckhampson: @InSyncEU DRINK!!!! <What this so early on in proceedings? #lrnchat
10:58:26 am StephanieDaul: @NYChase try using Tweetchat to follow along #lrnchat
10:58:47 am rebeccalcorn: I feel like I’m reading our SoMe policy by reading your responses.๐Ÿ˜ฆ It makes me sad. #lrnchat
10:58:50 am JamesMcLuckie: RT @LandDDave: Q1) “Everything you say online can be held against you” < Some cases in Scotland of politicians losing jobs. #lrnchat
10:59:07 am billcush: Q1) Joining late….but its ridiculous to block SoMe entirely….all people have to do is reach for their phones. #lrnchat
10:59:24 am JudithELS: RT @owenferguson: @LandDDave: Q1) My favorite company SoMe line so far “Everything you say online can be held against you” <Yikes #lrnchat
10:59:26 am LizPreedy: RT @rebeccalcorn: I feel like Im reading our SoMe policy by reading your responses.๐Ÿ˜ฆ It makes me sad. #lrnchat
10:59:39 am InSyncEU: RT @JudithELS: RT @simbeckhampson: @InSyncEU DRINK!!!! <What this so early on in proceedings? #lrnchat > Why not – sun’s down somewhere!!
10:59:55 am simbeckhampson: Org need to start with a foundation based on trust and respect… yeah right… and the moon is made of cheese, right! Not easy. #lrnchat
11:00:10 am billcush: Insane. RT @carlcrisostomo: At a recent conf public sector HR told they had to manage what their emps say on SM ..crazy #lrnchat
11:00:18 am JudithELS: RT @rebeccalcorn: I feel like Im reading our SoMe policy by reading your responses.๐Ÿ˜ฆ It makes me sad. <Poor you. #lrnchat
11:00:22 am rebeccalcorn: @InSyncEU Does the sun need to be down?! #lrnchat
11:00:29 am TerrenceWing: RT @ASTDLA: Learn Games that Engage and Reinforce Learning at #ASTDLA on 8/19. http://bit.ly/cc5CQ3 #astd #lrnchat #elearning #shrm #ispi
11:00:32 am TerrenceWing: Does anyone have a contact for the person doing Leadership Training using World of Warcraft? #astd #lrnchat #shrm #ispi #training
11:00:33 am JaneBozarth: Hello #lrnchat just dropping in long enough to gloat: I work for stage govt. Our Gov has told agencies to use SoMe, esp Facebook
11:00:36 am LandDDave: RT @billcush: Q1) … its ridiculous to block SoMe entirely….all people have to do is reach for their phones. <<So True #lrnchat
11:00:45 am InSyncEU: RT @owenferguson: @LandDDave: Q1) My favorite company SoMe line so far “Everything you say online can be held against you” < it can in a court of law #lrnchat
11:00:50 am simbeckhampson: @InSyncEU Hi David… formalising informal learning is a breach of #lrnchat terms (I think… drink anyway๐Ÿ˜‰
11:00:53 am briandusablon: Agreed > RT @billcush: Q1) Joining late….but its ridiculous to block SoMe entirely….all people have to do is reach for phones. #lrnchat
11:01:04 am LearnTribe: RT @StephanieDaul: @NYChase try using Tweetchat to follow along #lrnchat >>or try iPhone TweetDeck http://bit.ly/7eM2z
11:01:06 am rebeccalcorn: @JudithELS I know. But I’m exempt because I’m training and it benefits my job… can’t it help everyone? #lrnchat
11:01:24 am simbeckhampson: @JudithELS never too early on a Thursday…. as he sips he G&T๐Ÿ™‚ #lrnchat
11:01:59 am InSyncEU: RT @LearnTribe: RT @StephanieDaul: @NYChase try using Tweetchat to follow along #lrnchat >>or try iPhone TweetDeck http://bit.ly/7eM2z – yes
11:01:59 am JudithELS: RT @JaneBozarth: Hello just dropping in long enough to gloat: I work for stage govt: has told agencies to use SoMe (Mega gloat then #lrnchat
11:02:07 am JamesMcLuckie: RT @simbeckhampson: @JudithELS never too early on a Thursday…. as he sips he G&T๐Ÿ™‚ < I think you should share! #lrnchat
11:02:16 am Rsuominen: @carlcrisostomo Do they seriously think they can do it? #lrnchat
11:02:32 am simbeckhampson: @InSyncEU Doing good, great to have found time for #lrnchat… missed you guys (awww)
11:02:43 am JudithELS: RT @simbeckhampson: @JudithELS never too early on a Thursday…. as he sips he G&T๐Ÿ™‚ <I’ve only got a diet coke๐Ÿ˜ฆ #lrnchat
11:02:46 am LearnTribe: @JaneBozarth You are soooo lucky – I’ve worked in ‘clampdown’ public sector in the past #lrnchat
11:03:04 am edwsonoma: #lrnchat @simbeckhampson policies change when projects work and customers are happy. document your results. It’s easier. Just ask @bozarth
11:03:05 am sahana2802: bozarthzone: Updates to “Social Media for Trainers”: http://bit.ly/9D5haw #lrnchat
11:03:08 am GillianP: RT @millennial_ID: Q1) Managers can’t friend their subordinates on SoMe sites OUTSIDE of work!!! #lrnchat
11:03:14 am torriedunlap: #lrnchat Q1 my orgs only policy is be smart and use your common sense in SoMe.
11:03:20 am briandusablon: RT @jpcampbell: @bobATatsc I’m sitting in my house watching twitter and tennis. < I’m in the office, watching #lrnchat and #ifest
11:03:29 am LearnTribe: RT @simbeckhampson: @JudithELS never too early on a Thursday…. as he sips he G&T๐Ÿ™‚ #lrnchat >No fair – I only have T!
11:03:32 am lrnchat: Q2) What are some sensible policy ideas you’ve heard for social media? #lrnchat
11:03:39 am billcush: RT @simbeckhampson: Org need to start with trust and respect..yeah right..& the moon is made of cheese, right! Not easy. #lrnchat
11:03:52 am LandDDave: RT @GillianP: RT @millennial_ID: Q1) Managers cant friend their subordinates on SoMe sites OUTSIDE of work!!! < Wow… that’s bad #lrnchat
11:03:54 am simbeckhampson: @JamesMcLuckie Your right of course… there u go… http://bit.ly/cLxWf9 #lrnchat
11:03:59 am LandDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some sensible policy ideas youve heard for social media? #lrnchat
11:04:11 am rebeccalcorn: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some sensible policy ideas youve heard for social media? #lrnchat
11:04:20 am JudithELS: Q1) My company, ELS, says “Go & fly with SoMe”! #lrnchat
11:04:23 am LizPreedy: Q1 Policies do change – I worked in an org that banned branch offices having fax machines in the 80s #lrnchat
11:04:34 am JudithELS: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some sensible policy ideas youve heard for social media? #lrnchat
11:04:42 am simbeckhampson: @JudithELS I hear that Jamaican Rum fits very well with D.Coke๐Ÿ™‚ #lrnchat
11:04:44 am briandusablon: Q2) Not to have a SoMe policy. It’s already been said in communication policy. Don’t send stupid emails = Don’t post stupid tweets. #lrnchat
11:04:49 am maritzavdh: Just got in, not going to make early #lrnchat session tonight. Some great questions!
11:05:27 am simbeckhampson: @edwsonoma thats a top tip… start somewhere, document, let WOM spread, back it up with success cases – like it #lrnchat
11:05:27 am chet_stevenson: Q2) Don’t send anything you wouldn’t want the CEO to read. #lrnchat
11:05:27 am JudithELS: RT @simbeckhampson: @JudithELS I hear that Jamaican Rum fits very well with D.Coke๐Ÿ™‚ <Gr8 idea, now where’s that white rum? #lrnchat
11:05:30 am rebeccalcorn: Q2) Sensible to me would be trusting your employees. I like what @torriedunlap said: be smart & use common sense! #lrnchat
11:05:31 am LandDDave: Q2) Using apps like Yammer to create something internal is a great way to balance SoMe use with the reluctance to give up control #lrnchat
11:05:51 am billcush: Xanadu! RT @JaneBozarth: Hello #lrnchat Gloat: I work for stage govt. Our Gov has told agencies to use SoMe, esp Facebook
11:06:03 am collentine: @q2 Treat Social Media as you would a telephone call, limit your personal use whilst working but not forbidden #lrnchat
11:06:03 am owenferguson: RT @briandusablon: Q2) Not to have a SoMe policy. Its already been said in communication policy < agreed #lrnchat
11:06:05 am millennial_ID: Be respectful…don’t be afraid to post your opinion…help monitor…be accountable for your comments… #lrnchat
11:06:05 am dpontefract: The employment contract you sign is equal to a SoMe policy. No difference between the water cooler and the electric online cooler. #lrnchat
11:06:08 am JamesMcLuckie: RT @simbeckhampson: @JamesMcLuckie Your right of course… there u go… http://bit.ly/cLxWf9 < Ah, lime in it too – my favourite. #lrnchat
11:06:19 am simbeckhampson: @LearnTribe Better than nothing…. Mmmm… more ice me thinks (unfair) #lrnchat
11:06:20 am JudithELS: RT @briandusablon: Q2) Not to have a SoMe policy. Its already been said in communication policy. Dont post stupid tweets. <Agreed #lrnchat
11:06:36 am Rsuominen: @simbeckhampson Just use the common sense… Q2 #lrnchat
11:06:40 am LandDDave: Q2) Does the #lrnchat Drinking Game count as a ‘Sensible SoMe Policy Idea’? #lrnchat
11:06:42 am sahana2802: RT @simbeckhampson: @edwsonoma thats a top tip… start somewhere, document, let WOM spread, back it up with success cases – like it #lrnchat
11:06:45 am larshyland: RT @LandDDave: Q2) Using apps like Yammer to create something internal is a great way to balance SoMe use with the reluctance to give up control #lrnchat
11:06:52 am rebeccalcorn: Is it possible that C-Level EEs don’t know the purpose of SoMe? What happened when everyone got a phone at their desk? #lrnchat
11:06:54 am sahana2802: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some sensible policy ideas you’ve heard for social media? #lrnchat
11:06:55 am MsNair09: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some sensible policy ideas you’ve heard for social media? #lrnchat
11:07:02 am edwsonoma: #lrnchat don’t think she is here, can I just say that @gminks is a great asset for enterprise SoMe advice, experience.
11:07:07 am JaneBozarth: State of NC: That’s right. http://www.governor.state.nc.us/NewsItems/socialMedia.aspx #lrnchat
11:07:27 am InSyncEU: #lrnchat – IBM Social Computing Guidelines – http://bit.ly/bE8dum – interesting reading
11:07:36 am LearnTribe: q2) named person responsible for monitoring incoming SoMe for issues but all staff empowered to post & respond #lrnchat
11:07:42 am JudithELS: Q2) Trusting people to be sensible, using SoMe for the good of the org/instutition … #lrnchat
11:07:44 am joanna__2: Q0) car full of learning consultants on way home from notts!! #lrnchat
11:07:55 am briandusablon: Ahh, but Yammer has own issues around security, access to posts, etc. > RT @LandDDave: Q2) Using apps like Yammer… #lrnchat
11:07:58 am simbeckhampson: @JudithELS Here you go… http://bit.ly/crGACK #lrnchat
11:07:58 am simbeckhampson: @JudithELS Here you go… http://bit.ly/crGACK #lrnchat
11:08:21 am JamesMcLuckie: Q2. Have a policy that encourages and empowers rather than forbids SoMe use. #lrnchat
11:08:25 am billcush: Sensible Policy: What @janebozarth just said..RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some sensible policy ideas you’ve heard for social media? #lrnchat
11:08:39 am joanna__2: Q1) organisation block social media sites….even linked in now!! #lrnchat
11:08:41 am simbeckhampson: @JamesMcLuckie If your going to do something right… etc๐Ÿ˜‰ #lrnchat
11:08:58 am sahana2802: Q2: Begin small wth passionate believers, showcase success, create case study from success, let initial believers be the drivers #lrnchat
11:09:15 am LandDDave: @briandusablon I look at it as a bridge to people who say no based on complete SoMe misconceptions. #lrnchat
11:09:15 am JudithELS: RT @simbeckhampson: @JudithELS Here you go… http://bit.ly/crGACK <A virtual bottle of white rum, thanks! #lrnchat
11:09:38 am collentine: RT @LearnTribe: q2) named person responsible for monitoring incoming SM for issues but all staff empowered to post&respond #lrnchat
11:09:41 am socialtech: #lrnchat sorry to be a moaner – due to the increasing volume of tweets, could we have less drinking game tweets please? use another hashtag?
11:09:46 am LearnTribe: RT @JudithELS: Q2) Trusting people to be sensible, using SoMe for the good of the org/instutition … #lrnchat >love idea, will IT & HR?
11:09:47 am simbeckhampson: @InSyncEU Yep… very good… there are some great SoMe guideline sites worth exploring (bookmarked that one, thanks)) #lrnchat
11:09:57 am LizPreedy: Q2 Actually show people how to use SM to benefit of organization. #lrnchat
11:10:06 am simbeckhampson: @JudithELS …well at least its free๐Ÿ˜‰ #lrnchat
11:10:08 am carlcrisostomo: @Rsuominen There was a feeling of despair in the room when it was mentioned, though they were not told how to control it! #lrnchat
11:10:30 am MsNair09: Q2) Take ownership, be sensible, and share for the good of others #lrnchat
11:10:43 am briankotts: Q2) Only 29% Of Companies Have A Social Media Policy: Is Your Company At Risk? http://bit.ly/atpK9Y /via jeffbullas #lrnchat
11:10:45 am edwsonoma: @rebeccalcorn C-levels DONT care abt SoMe. They care abt biz results. If u can demonstrate biz value of SoMe they will care more. #lrnchat
11:10:52 am owenferguson: @briandusablon Yammer offers a ‘behind the firewall’ solution too. It’s as secure as email. #lrnchat
11:10:55 am briandusablon: @LandDDave I agree, just throwing out there that Yammer is a tough sell sometimes because of issues other than SoMe. #lrnchat
11:11:03 am Rsuominen: Seconded RT @JamesMcLuckie: Q2. Have a policy that encourages and empowers rather than forbids SoMe use. #lrnchat
11:11:06 am billcush: Q2) Though I don’t think there should by any policy on the subject, if there must…should be based on “use of good judgement.” #lrnchat
11:11:13 am LearnTribe: RT @MsNair09: Q2) Take ownership, be sensible, and share for the good of others #lrnchat
11:11:21 am sahana2802: RT @dpontefract: The employment contract you sign is equal to a SoMe policy. No difference between the water cooler and the electric online cooler. #lrnchat
11:11:28 am frankcalberg: RT @sahana2802: Q2: Begin wth passionate believers,showcase success,create case study from success,let initial believers be drivers #lrnchat
11:11:35 am JudithELS: @LearnTribe I doubt most IT depts love SoMe (too threatening) but HR should embrace it. #lrnchat
11:11:37 am larshyland: #lrnchat Q2) Include guidance on managing information flow – avoid being overwhelmed and so paralysing contribution/drawing value.
11:11:39 am JamesMcLuckie: Q2. Use SoMe for virtual working between campuses – helps to sell its benefits to the sceptical. #lrnchat
11:11:45 am briandusablon: @owenferguson Yes, for a fee…always more challenging to write a business case for that… #lrnchat
11:11:49 am LandDDave: @briandusablon Never implemented it myself, so that’s good to know. #lrnchat
11:12:18 am simbeckhampson: @owenferguson Based on a report I read recently about kids hacking (esp girls), that’s not really very comforting… #lrnchat
11:12:38 am JudithELS: RT @JamesMcLuckie: Q2. Use SoMe for virtual working between campuses – helps to sell its benefits to the sceptical. <V.good point #lrnchat
11:12:46 am LandDDave: Q2) Full Disclosure- If you post about your company, identify yourself as an employee. Not a policy so much, but good practice. #lrnchat
11:12:54 am rebeccalcorn: My IT Dept finally gave me access to TweetChat! Told me – don’t click on links, it’s probably a virus. #lrnchat
11:13:01 am joanna__2: โ€œ@joanna__2: Q2. everyone should contribute and everyones opinion is valuedโ€ #lrnchat
11:13:09 am owenferguson: @briandusablon Easier than writing a business case for generic ‘presentation skills’ or ‘communication’ though๐Ÿ™‚ #lrnchat
11:13:10 am briandusablon: @LandDDave @owenferguson, @mrch0mp3rs and @stephaniedaul did well with Yammer implementation – talked about it at #DevLearn09. #lrnchat
11:13:16 am carlcrisostomo: Q2 ) We use Yammer in my team and we have all but stopped emailing each other. #lrnchat
11:13:19 am bobATatsc: RT @briandusablon I’ve learned a lot about what’s coming from @mrch0mp3rs & others at #ifest. I’m intrigued, cautiously optimistic. #lrnchat
11:13:42 am janet_frg: Q2) some good talks on this recorded from last Nov. LearnTrends. esp. preso of Xerox Social Learning: http://bit.ly/4aK2Gk #lrnchat
11:13:47 am tmiket: RT @carlcrisostomo: Q2 ) We use Yammer in my team and we have all but stopped emailing each other. #lrnchat
11:13:53 am JudithELS: RT @LandDDave: Q2) Full Disclosure- If you post about your company, identify yourself as an employee. <Could also be a policy #lrnchat
11:13:57 am simbeckhampson: @LandDDave Good open strategy… also if you make a mistake, admit it… #lrnchat
11:13:59 am rebeccalcorn: RT @LandDDave: Q2) Full Disclosure- If you post about your company, id yourself as an employee. Not a policy, but good practice. #lrnchat
11:14:14 am NYChase: Q2: allusions to personal integrity. “don’t do/say anything you’d be embarassed to read on the paper / don’t dishonor your family” #lrnchat
11:14:28 am JudithELS: RT @rebeccalcorn: My IT Dept finally gave me access to TweetChat! Told me – dont click on links, its probably a virus. <Typical #lrnchat
11:14:30 am tmiket: @simbeckhampson admit mistakes << Yes! #lrnchat
11:14:32 am StephanieDaul: @carlcrisostomo We just put Yammer on our Intranet site and got a couple hundred new users in just a few days #lrnchat
11:14:36 am owenferguson: @simbeckhampson well, nothing’s ever safe on the interweb #lrnchat
11:14:44 am LandDDave: Q2) Template for SoMe Policy: Finalize the policy, THEN bring in I.T. #lrnchat
11:14:48 am collentine: @rebeccalcorn hehe, don’t click on links and watch out for any ideas that might change our business:) #lrnchat
11:15:03 am StephanieDaul: Q2) If you don’t want your manager to read it, don’t post it #lrnchat
11:15:09 am simbeckhampson: @owenferguson so true… #lrnchat
11:15:19 am joanna__2: Q2) full and frank disclosure about our aims, mission and vision as a training function. #lrnchat
11:15:29 am CraigTaylor74: Q2) Discourage anonymous posts #lrnchat
11:15:31 am LizPreedy: RT @LandDDave: Q2) Template for SoMe Policy: Finalize the policy, THEN bring in I.T.๐Ÿ™‚๐Ÿ™‚ #lrnchat
11:15:31 am rebeccalcorn: @collentine Haha. Exactly. #lrnchat
11:15:41 am JudithELS: RT @LandDDave: Q2) Template for SoMe Policy: Finalize the policy, THEN bring in I.T. <Good thinking #lrnchat
11:15:48 am owenferguson: @LandDDave or finalise the policy then bring in HR – in my experience they’re often the ones calling to ban it! #lrnchat
11:15:57 am simbeckhampson: RT @StephanieDaul: Q2) If you don’t want your manager to read it, don’t post it < best advice ever!!! #lrnchat
11:16:07 am briandusablon: Just find & replace for “internet/email” and add SoMe. > RT @LandDDave: Q2) SoMe Policy: Finalize the policy, THEN bring in I.T. #lrnchat
11:16:20 am LizPreedy: This is a ggod ” test” RT @StephanieDaul: Q2) If you dont want your manager to read it, dont post it #lrnchat
11:16:44 am socialtech: @stephaniedaul #lrnchat q2) the problem with that though, is people become afraid to express opinion. I’d almost encourage any message
11:17:26 am simbeckhampson: @LizPreedy Try to involve IT as little and as late as possible… surprise attach (supported from above) seems to work best…. #lrnchat
11:17:36 am joanna__2: RT @StephanieDaul: Q2) If you don’t want your manager to read it, don’t post it #lrnchat
11:17:36 am LizPreedy: Opps or even This is a good ” test” RT @StephanieDaul: Q2) If you dont want your manager to read it, dont post it #lrnchat
11:17:46 am StephanieDaul: Q2) most of our policy is covered under our Biz Conduct Guidelines which we are required to sign each year. #lrnchat
11:17:51 am rebeccalcorn: I want 2 create a Twitter acct for my dept, but I don’t know if I’d be allowed. Okay to ask forgiveness or should I ask permission? #lrnchat
11:18:34 am simbeckhampson: @socialtech – something to that…don’t stifle creativity, but then you need to create that environment first, BIG challenge #lrnchat
11:18:40 am gminks: RT @edwsonoma: #lrnchat @gminks is a great asset for enterprise SoMe advice, experience <–thx! I’m in btwn mtgs, hope to be on tonite
11:18:57 am StephanieDaul: @rebeccalcorn ask for forgiveness – by the time they decide what to do, you’ll have your business case #lrnchat
11:19:15 am tmiket: Q2 Can’t any SoMe policy be boiled down to “Don’t be stupid” & “Play nice with others”? #lrnchat
11:19:29 am simbeckhampson: @rebeccalcorn Privacy mode first for testing, then record results, then approach (depends though….) #lrnchat
11:19:31 am briandusablon: Agreed > RT @StephanieDaul: @rebeccalcorn ask for forgiveness – by the time they decide what to do, youll have your business case #lrnchat
11:19:32 am JamesMcLuckie: Q2: How many of us are taking advantage of a proactive org SoMe policy to take part now? #lrnchat
11:19:41 am lrnchat: Q3) What more would you like to see in policies for learning and social media? #lrnchat
11:19:46 am collentine: @rebeccalcorn ask forgiveness if confident you can produce results they are pleased with, otherwise permission might be more wise #lrnchat
11:19:49 am LizPreedy: RT @tmiket: Q2 Cant any SoMe policy be boiled down to “Dont be stupid” & “Play nice with others”? #lrnchat
11:19:50 am berthelemy: RT @berthelemy: @simbeckhampson Not true. Get IT onside right from the start. Make friends with them. They have the power of veto. #lrnchat
11:20:00 am briandusablon: Exactly! Any policy, period. > RT @tmiket: Q2 Cant any SoMe policy be boiled down to “Dont be stupid” & “Play nice with others”? #lrnchat
11:20:06 am rebeccalcorn: @StephanieDaul – being friends w/ the CEO on FB has really helped me be cognisant of what I post! #lrnchat
11:20:11 am JudithELS: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What more would you like to see in policies for learning and social media? #lrnchat
11:20:15 am LandDDave: @tmiket Anything I need to know I learned in Kindergarden – the SoMe Edition! #lrnchat
11:20:24 am LandDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What more would you like to see in policies for learning and social media? #lrnchat
11:20:27 am tmiket: @JamesMcLuckie Shouldn’t we take part REGARDLESS of our org’s policies? #lrnchat
11:20:28 am LizPreedy: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What more would you like to see in policies for learning and social media? #lrnchat
11:20:32 am collentine: @rebeccalcorn ask forgiveness if confident you can produce results they are pleased with, elsewise permission is a good choice #lrnchat
11:20:34 am briandusablon: Q3) Nothing. Why do we need policies for learning/SoMe? #lrnchat
11:20:38 am StephanieDaul: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What more would you like to see in policies for learning and social media? #lrnchat
11:20:41 am JffZllr: @rebeccalcorn Forgiveness! #lrnchat
11:20:43 am simbeckhampson: @berthelemy …make friends with IT – sounds like a Mission Impossible – need visionary IT dept. (but in principle, I agree too) #lrnchat
11:20:48 am JudithELS: RT @LizPreedy: RT @tmiket: Q2 Cant any SoMe policy be boiled down to “Dont be stupid” & “Play nice with others”? <Yes. #lrnchat
11:21:08 am tmiket: @LandDDave Amazing how that “learned in Kingergarten” stuff applies in so many places! #lrnchat
11:21:19 am rebeccalcorn: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What more would you like to see in policies for learning and social media? #lrnchat
11:21:22 am simbeckhampson: @berthelemy Should they have the power of veto? Really? Me thinks not! #lrnchat
11:21:36 am LandDDave: Q3) Less about what you are and are not allowed to do, and more about why the organization has a presence in the first place. #lrnchat
11:21:39 am CraigTaylor74: RT @tmiket: @JamesMcLuckie Shouldn’t we take part REGARDLESS of our org’s policies? #lrnchat < I do, but not from my work PC!
11:21:51 am JudithELS: Q3) Fewer ‘Don’ts’ and more ‘Do’s’ #lrnchat
11:22:12 am StephanieDaul: @rebeccalcorn I don’t use FB for biz connection but even so you don’t know who is going to read what #lrnchat
11:22:13 am tmiket: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What more would you like to see in policies for learning and social media? #lrnchat
11:22:26 am simbeckhampson: RT @JudithELS: Q3) Fewer ‘Don’ts’ and more ‘Do’s’ < nice… #lrnchat
11:22:26 am JaneBozarth: @rebeccalcorn Ask yourself, “What would Jane do?”๐Ÿ˜‰ #lrnchat
11:22:37 am JamesMcLuckie: Q3: Dedicated SoMe Advisers. Know of a few orgs with these and they reap great benefits for the org and staff. #lrnchat
11:23:03 am StephanieDaul: RT @JudithELS: Q3) Fewer Donts and more Dos <Help me understand how SoMe can HELP me #lrnchat
11:23:03 am collentine: @q3 a higher trust put in employees to promote the company they represent #lrnchat
11:23:05 am CraigTaylor74: Q3) I’d like to see an absence of panicky IT involvement #lrnchat
11:23:16 am larshyland: #lrnchat Q3) Don’t focus on policies, focus on culture change.
11:23:20 am simbeckhampson: @LandDDave …and then communicate that message before it all starts, same page… agree 100% #lrnchat
11:23:22 am LizPreedy: Q3 Policies that bring together the needs of the learner and organization. Tired of ORGANIZATION only criteria! #lrnchat
11:23:26 am LandDDave: Q3) I don’t think enough orgs think about the ‘Why’ of launching a SoMe presence. Explain that in your policy. #lrnchat
11:23:36 am briandusablon: Well, of course! > RT @JaneBozarth: @rebeccalcorn Ask yourself, “What would Jane do?”๐Ÿ˜‰ #lrnchat
11:23:38 am berthelemy: @simbeckhampson They shouldn’t – but they do. It’s a fact of life. #lrnchat
11:23:43 am tmiket: @JamesMcLuckie Interesting to combine this with earlier “find/replace”comment. can’t imagine dedicated email advisors #lrnchat
11:23:47 am owenferguson: Q3) Less policy more action – policies just get in the way. As mentioned earlier, comms policy takes care of the important stuff. #lrnchat
11:23:52 am JudithELS: RT @JaneBozarth: @rebeccalcorn Ask yourself, “What would Jane do?”๐Ÿ˜‰ <Now that could be dangerous #lrnchat
11:24:02 am rebeccalcorn: Q3) I’d like 2 see people using SoMe during work hours. If something happens now, I’m not going to remember it in 8 hrs. #lrnchat
11:24:06 am StephanieDaul: RT @CraigTaylor74: Q3) Id like to see an absence of panicky IT involvement <or Corp Communications #lrnchat
11:24:20 am briandusablon: Q3) So, process is: hire someone you don’t trust, then tell them what not to do? Why? #lrnchat
11:24:21 am socialtech: RT Q3: Dedicated SoMe Advisers (via @JamesMcLuckie) <– thats what I do. I love it. #lrnchat
11:24:27 am janet_frg: Q3) frame SoMe policy around solving business problems; that’s what it’s there for. #lrnchat
11:24:40 am briandusablon: Or HR > RT @StephanieDaul: RT @CraigTaylor74: Q3) Id like to see an absence of panicky IT involvement <or Corp Communications #lrnchat
11:25:11 am StephanieDaul: RT @janet_frg: Q3) frame SoMe policy around solving business problems; thats what its there for. #lrnchat
11:25:19 am tmiket: @owenferguson Or policies just gather dust in a drawer somewhere? Depends on how/if it’s enforced #lrnchat
11:25:25 am rebeccalcorn: RT @socialtech: RT Q3: Dedicated SoMe Advisers (via @JamesMcLuckie) <– thats what I do. I love it. <What a great idea! #lrnchat
11:25:25 am mbr1online: Joining #lrnchat late…here is a useful database of SoMe policies – http://bit.ly/7DtySS
11:26:16 am JamesMcLuckie: @tmiket: Ones I know of largely act as ambassadors for SoMe internally, and help set up projects to get best from it. #lrnchat
11:26:18 am simbeckhampson: @berthelemy …need to hire better more flexible, forward thinking IT people… (or those or just do as they are told) – dismaying! #lrnchat
11:26:41 am owenferguson: @tmiket even unenforced, a policy will put a proportion of people off just making a move – rule sticklers #lrnchat
11:26:47 am LandDDave: @mbr1online My database of SoMe policies is a plastic pail under my desk.๐Ÿ™‚ – kidding, thanks for the link. #lrnchat
11:27:02 am simbeckhampson: @janet_frg Exactly… proof of the pudding and all that… easy. #lrnchat
11:27:08 am JffZllr: Like! RT @mbr1online:Joining #lrnchat late…here is a useful database of SoMe policies – http://bit.ly/7DtySS #nwumc
11:27:37 am berthelemy: @simbeckhampson It’s not the IT people (ie. hardware/software). It’s the people responsible for IT security, data security etc.. #lrnchat
11:27:38 am FSCJOpen: #lrnchat Common sense guidelines like 4 written/spoken comm. If you’ve identified yrslf as educator, don’t say anything inst. shouldn’t see!
11:27:41 am JamesMcLuckie: RT @socialtech: RT Q3: Dedicated SoMe Advisers <– thats what I do. I love it. < I’ll have your job, please!๐Ÿ˜‰ #lrnchat
11:27:53 am Rsuominen: RT @larshyland: #lrnchat Q3) Don’t focus on policies, focus on culture change.
11:28:07 am JudithELS: RT @mbr1online: Joining #lrnchat late…here is a useful database of SoMe policies – http://bit.ly/7DtySS <Thx v.useful #lrnchat
11:28:37 am owenferguson: RT @Rsuominen: RT @larshyland: #lrnchat Q3) Dont focus on policies, focus on culture change < that’s the real challenge #lrnchat
11:28:56 am rebeccalcorn: RT @Rsuominen: RT @larshyland: #lrnchat Q3) Dont focus on policies, focus on culture change. #lrnchat
11:29:19 am StephanieDaul: We have had SoMe since I started 10 yrs ago (Yahoo Financial Discussion Board) no one did anything about it then #lrnchat
11:29:22 am briandusablon: RT @mbr1online: Joining…here is a useful database of SoMe policies – http://bit.ly/7DtySS #lrnchat < Ha, irony: http://twitpic.com/2e193w
11:29:30 am dpontefract: Learning is social media. Social media is learning. Get over it. #lrnchat
11:30:01 am JamesMcLuckie: RT @owenferguson @Rsuominen @larshyland Q3) Dont focus on policies, focus on culture change < thats the real challenge < Agreed #lrnchat
11:30:08 am briankotts: Should students ‘friend’ teachers online? | Chicago Tribune http://bit.ly/dpoUJI #edchat #edteck #ukedchat #lrnchat
11:30:27 am cpjobling: @mbr1online Thanks for that … it will be useful to have a few HEI policies to quote should it ever come to defining a policy! #lrnchat
11:30:32 am JudithELS: RT @dpontefract: Learning is social media. Social media is learning. Get over it. <For me social media enables learning #lrnchat
11:30:34 am briandusablon: @StephanieDaul exactly. No issues with me posting/reading on #flashforlearning or other forums, either… #lrnchat
11:30:36 am collentine: RT @owenferguson RT @larshyland #lrnchat Q3) Dont focus on policies, focus on culture change < that’s the real challenge
11:30:42 am urbie: #lrnchat Q#1 policies vis-a-vis social media: no.
11:30:46 am simbeckhampson: @berthelemy < that’s clear… Germans are very very cautious… could be their downfall, imo (mini prediction) #lrnchat
11:31:10 am simbeckhampson: @JudithELS i.e social learning๐Ÿ˜‰ #lrnchat
11:31:10 am tmiket: @briandusablon I think I must hold the record for # of times getting blocked on our network. Multiple times a day #lrnchat
11:31:48 am StephanieDaul: @briankotts That comes down to your Social Media strategy…I say no but I am sticking to my plan #lrnchat
11:31:55 am briandusablon: @tmiket yep, me too. There used to be a “bypass” button, with a veiled threat. Now I can’t even get past the block.๐Ÿ˜ฆ #lrnchat
11:31:58 am WeWorkItOut: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Some workplaces have a kind of social media Calvinism: deep-seated fear that someone might enjoy himself. #lrnchat
11:32:04 am JamesMcLuckie: RT @JudithELS: RT @dpontefract: <For me social media enables learning < My view too. Tools can only ever be enablers. #lrnchat
11:32:06 am ViewpointrEmily: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some sensible policy ideas you’ve heard for social media? #lrnchat http://ow.ly/18xKi1
11:32:07 am ViewpointrEmily: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What are some sensible policy ideas you’ve heard for social media? #lrnchat http://ow.ly/18xKi0
11:32:45 am urbie: #lrnchat Q#3.. it gets down to how SoMe is characterized.. its application should mirror the policies that exist. it can be done.
11:33:02 am JudithELS: @cpjobling Apologies for offending you with all the chat about drink! #lrnchat
11:33:53 am adamlockwood77: RT @briankotts: Should students ‘friend’ teachers online? | Chicago Tribune http://bit.ly/dpoUJI #edchat #edteck #ukedchat #lrnchat
11:34:07 am simbeckhampson: The golden rule about SoME policy is that there are no golden rules… #lrnchat
11:34:07 am urbie: #lrnchat Q#3 does policy allow for water cooler chats? if yes, deploy water cooler SoMe.
11:34:20 am StephanieDaul: Do SoMe policies differ globally…Do I need something different in EU vs US vs Japan? #lrnchat
11:35:39 am MsNair09: RT @briankotts: Should students ‘friend’ teachers online? | Chicago Tribune http://bit.ly/dpoUJI #edchat #edteck #ukedchat #lrnchat
11:36:26 am socialtech: @stephaniedaul Yes. Due to different HR laws about what you can and can’t say as an employee. (from experience) #lrnchat
11:36:37 am lrnchat: Q4) How should social media and learning policies be created? And by whom? #lrnchat
11:37:06 am LandDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How should social media and learning policies be created? And by whom? #lrnchat
11:37:08 am tmiket: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How should social media and learning policies be created? And by whom? #lrnchat
11:37:18 am rebeccalcorn: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How should social media and learning policies be created? And by whom? #lrnchat
11:37:22 am sahana2802: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How should social media and learning policies be created? And by whom? #lrnchat
11:37:33 am sahana2802: RT @simbeckhampson: The golden rule about SoME policy is that there are no golden rules… #lrnchat
11:37:37 am tmiket: Q4: the default should always be “open” and only close when necessary instead of vice versa #lrnchat
11:37:48 am socialtech: #lrnchat q4) via a wiki that is constantly evolving.
11:37:51 am billbrandon: RT @dpontefract: Learning is social media. Social media is learning. Get over it. #lrnchat
11:37:55 am briandusablon: Q4) I’ll hold to my argument that they should NOT be created. The information/communication/technology policy already covers it. #lrnchat
11:37:56 am StephanieDaul: @socialtech What about cultural differences? Does that make a difference? #lrnchat
11:38:15 am LizPreedy: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How should social media and learning policies be created? And by whom? #lrnchat
11:38:20 am StephanieDaul: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How should social media and learning policies be created? And by whom? #lrnchat
11:38:23 am briandusablon: Q4) The medium is different, but the content, rules are the same as with email/internet/forums, etc. #lrnchat
11:38:24 am tmiket: Q4: Not created by IT? 8-p #lrnchat
11:38:40 am dpontefract: in the true spirit of a collaborative workplace, social media/learning guidelines should be developed in a x-functional manner #lrnchat
11:38:44 am briandusablon: Evolving policies don’t fly with IT/HR > RT @socialtech: #lrnchat q4) via a wiki that is constantly evolving. #lrnchat
11:38:53 am tmiket: @briandusablon Agreed that other ethics/conduct/etc policy already covers it. #lrnchat
11:39:00 am dannymaas: . @Edublogs now has an educational blogging directory! Register yours now! http://ow.ly/2oKCF #edchat #edtech #lrnchat #iste10
11:39:18 am StephanieDaul: Q4) HR should own them (if they need one) but learning needs to have input into the policies #lrnchat
11:39:20 am socialtech: @StephanieDaul in my experience (within eu countries) yes, but only related to laws that reflect cultural differences #lrnchat
11:39:36 am simbeckhampson: Q4) They should be created by those who use it… based on their collective sense – rules dictated are broken v. quickly #lrnchat
11:39:39 am billcush: A truer think rarely spoketh. RT @briandusablon: Q4) They should NOT be created. The info/comm/technology policy already covers it. #lrnchat
11:39:58 am urbie: #lrnchat Q#4 so it has the best chance of sticking: from the top, down
11:40:16 am CraigTaylor74: Q4) In close liaison with the most experienced SoMe user in the org. This is probably **not** T security/HR! #lrnchat
11:40:19 am Rsuominen: RT @simbeckhampson: The golden rule about SoME policy is that there are no golden rules… #lrnchat < like communication in general
11:40:20 am socialtech: #lrnchat q4) they have input too. If it’s good enough for IBM…
11:40:23 am briandusablon: Q4) Would you have different rules for SoMe vs. talking to a reporter vs. emailing a friend? No. Same message: “Don’t be stupid.” #lrnchat
11:40:29 am LandDDave: Q4) I think something is needed, even if we avoid the policy word. Users of SoMe often forget that others have no idea what it is. #lrnchat
11:40:31 am rebeccalcorn: RT @simbeckhampson:They should be created by those who use it. based on their collective sense-rules dictated are broken v. quickly #lrnchat
11:40:36 am JamesMcLuckie: Q4. Agree that existing electronic media policies should cover SoMe. #lrnchat
11:40:59 am mbr1online: RT @briankotts: Should students ‘friend’ teachers online? | Chicago Tribune http://bit.ly/dpoUJI #edchat #edteck #ukedchat #lrnchat
11:41:16 am cpjobling: @JudithELS Didn’t offend me….? #lrnchat
11:41:16 am JudithELS: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How should social media and learning policies be created? And by whom? #lrnchat
11:41:17 am LizPreedy: RT @simbeckhampson: Q4) They should be created by those who use it… –> Yes policies not rules or written Policies #lrnchat
11:42:00 am sahana2802: Q4: Creating of rules (esp by folks who are neither passionate nor believers/users) and expecting them to be followed will not work #lrnchat
11:42:02 am JudithELS: RT @tmiket: Q4: Not created by IT? 8-p <Definitely not #lrnchat
11:42:03 am JamesMcLuckie: Q4. Actually, perhaps SoMe does force a review to highlight the positives. Policies don’t just have to dwell on the “don’ts”. #lrnchat
11:42:05 am CraigTaylor74: Q4) In close liaison with the most experienced SoMe user in the org. This is probably **not** IT security/HR! #lrnchat
11:42:13 am simbeckhampson: @Rsuominen when it occurs naturally it looks very different than when it is forced… people want to adopt it, as they wrote it! #lrnchat
11:42:53 am rebeccalcorn: Problem w/ wiki policy. Our policies have to be approved by BoD. SoMe users for org should def have input into ‘policy’ though. #lrnchat
11:42:54 am simbeckhampson: @sahana2802 totally agree… its tried and tested = fail. #lrnchat
11:42:55 am JudithELS: RT @cpjobling: @JudithELS Didnt offend me….? <Phew, that’s a relief. #lrnchat
11:43:13 am briandusablon: Q4) Perhaps recommendations or guidelines, rather than a “don’t do this” policy? Best practices, etc.? #lrnchat
11:43:14 am owenferguson: Q4) SoMe is covered by comms/ethics policies. Learning policy on the other hand is a different beast, esp for compliance training #lrnchat
11:43:43 am sahana2802: Q4: Let those who have used SoMe as their PKM be the “policy makers” and the initial implementers. Let their passion infect others. #lrnchat
11:44:09 am StephanieDaul: RT @briandusablon: Q4) Perhaps recommendations or guidelines, rather than a “dont do this” policy? Best practices, etc.? #lrnchat
11:44:18 am JamesMcLuckie: RT @CraigTaylor74: Q4) This is probably **not** IT security/HR! < Would hope that the L&D bods in HR might just be, though. #lrnchat
11:44:20 am simbeckhampson: @CraigTaylor74 Good to hear that… removes a lot of barriers instantly #lrnchat
11:44:26 am kelly_smith01: RT @eLearning_softw: First Look at the iPad for eLearning : http://is.gd/b9R11 #lrnchat
11:44:27 am sahana2802: @simbeckhampson Yes! And in the process those who are truly passionate move on to their own ways of using it leaving others behind. #lrnchat
11:44:29 am LandDDave: Q4) both existing and new users of SoMe could do with some guidance on use, even if it’s as simple as @tmiket ‘s two rule approach #lrnchat
11:44:32 am tmiket: @owenferguson What’s in a ‘learning policy’? #lrnchat
11:44:46 am simbeckhampson: @sahana2802 now your reading MY mind๐Ÿ˜‰ #lrnchat
11:44:56 am JudithELS: RT @owenferguson: Q4) SoMe is covered by comms/ethics policies. Learning policy is a different beast <I like this distinction #lrnchat
11:45:27 am simbeckhampson: @sahana2802 they often move up into master social learner positions too, naturally. #lrnchat
11:45:40 am briandusablon: @sahana2802 hard to sell that to IT/HR in most orgs. #lrnchat
11:45:52 am urbie: #lrnchat Q#4 institutionalize SoMe. when it has a spot on the corp org chart managed by HR you know it’s made it.
11:46:31 am owenferguson: @tmiket guidance for formal education/qualification support, completion of compliance training, legals not covered elsewhere #lrnchat
11:46:39 am Rsuominen: I agree RT @socialtech: #lrnchat q4) via a wiki that is constantly evolving.
11:46:40 am tmiket: @briandusablon @sahana2802 HR/IT are not enablers in many orgs more like police #lrnchat
11:46:42 am simbeckhampson: @LandDDave Agree… communicate purpose, method and goal… then get out of the way and let people DO #lrnchat
11:46:49 am JamesMcLuckie: RT @owenferguson: Q4) I definitely think that SoMe could be covered in a learning policy. “Policy” is such a horrible word, though! #lrnchat
11:46:58 am sahana2802: @simbeckhampson True! What a loss if an org does not recognize the passion or what drives such folks…#lrnchat
11:47:18 am simbeckhampson: @briandusablon very… but it’s the way forward… change the IT security peeps if necessary… make them find a way!!!! #lrnchat
11:47:28 am CraigTaylor74: RT @JamesMcLuckie: Q4) This is probably **not** IT security/HR! < Would hope that the L&D bods in HR might just be, though. #lrnchat<agreed
11:47:37 am sahana2802: RT @tmiket: @briandusablon @sahana2802 HR/IT are not enablers in many orgs more like police #lrnchat
11:47:39 am briandusablon: More like the gestapo > RT @tmiket: @briandusablon @sahana2802 HR/IT are not enablers in many orgs more like police #lrnchat
11:47:54 am urbie: #lrnchat Q#4 leverage corporate vanity and/or competition; identify policies at competitors and tell somebody you’re being left behind.
11:48:13 am briandusablon: @simbeckhampson or just do it anyway, build your case, guidelines as you go, and present to them if/when you get busted.๐Ÿ™‚ #lrnchat
11:48:22 am JudithELS: RT @sahana2802: @simbeckhampson True! What a loss if an org does not recognize the passion or what drives such folks <Too true #lrnchat
11:49:35 am simbeckhampson: @JamesMcLuckie Is SoMe any different from organising a F2F discussion? Do we really need such tight security? #lrnchat
11:50:06 am lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too. #lrnchat
11:50:26 am briandusablon: Q4) Maybe goal isn’t to sell IT/HR on policy but get them to understand they’re killing ideas/innovation? Requires C-level support? #lrnchat
11:50:43 am briandusablon: RT @simbeckhampson: @JamesMcLuckie Is SoMe any different from organising a F2F discussion? Do we really need such tight security? #lrnchat
11:50:45 am JudithELS: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too. #lrnchat
11:51:04 am JamesMcLuckie: RT @simbeckhampson: Was thinking more of an enabling perspective – more of the “can dos” than “can nots”. #lrnchat
11:51:21 am StephanieDaul: QWrap) Stephanie Daul, instructional designers, Hot and humid Chicago – good lrnchat today! #lrnchat
11:51:23 am urbie: #lrnchat urbie delgado, http://www.peaceloveflowers.com, instructional designer, washington, d.c.
11:51:29 am tmiket: Mike Taylor, glad to have dipped my toes into the #lrnchat pool from Columbus, OH today
11:51:34 am simbeckhampson: @JudithELS It’s the end before the beginning to consider another route; requires a new mindset for org… seek those who are ready #lrnchat
11:51:43 am cpjobling: Qwrap) Chris Jobling, University Lecturer, Swansea University. Glad I’m not in industry: SoMe policy here a non issue IMHO. #lrnchat
11:51:49 am rebeccalcorn: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too. #lrnchat
11:51:49 am JudithELS: Qwrap) Wow, thanks everyone. My head is reeling again from yet another brilliant #lrnchat
11:52:09 am LandDDave: Qwrap) David Kelly, Training Director for NYC Bank. Looking at new opportunities in the NY area. If you hear of one, let me know! #lrnchat
11:52:13 am briankotts: #lrnchat Qrap) Brian in Sweden. All things Ed. It was blast.
11:52:34 am JamesMcLuckie: James of Edinburgh. Proud manager of @EdenTreeToolkit. Thanks for the chat everyone.๐Ÿ™‚ #lrnchat
11:52:39 am mbr1online: When orgs stop running on fear and distrust of their people, social media will fuel an explosion of engagement and innovation. #lrnchat
11:52:41 am Rsuominen: RT @simbeckhampson: @JamesMcLuckie Is SoMe any different from organising a F2F discussion? Do we really need such tight security? #lrnchat
11:52:45 am owenferguson: Policies are for keeping people on the right side of the law and to protect the org. The rest is education, awareness and guidance. #lrnchat
11:53:01 am JudithELS: Qwrap) So it’s over and out from Judith C-C in a stormy (thunderous) Warwickshire, England #lrnchat
11:53:03 am CraigTaylor74: Qwrap) Craig Taylor, Cheshire, wishing that a certain colleague of mine had been here in #lrnchat today! http://bit.ly/bJu4Q8
11:53:05 am rebeccalcorn: Rebecca Alcorn. Corporate Trainer. Knoxville, TN. Loved today’s chat! #lrnchat
11:53:09 am simbeckhampson: @JamesMcLuckie Do we need to teach people how to social interact… no! So we don’t need do’s and dont’s, we need sense & passion #lrnchat
11:53:13 am briandusablon: Qwrap) Brian Dusablon, Performance Consultant. Learning Ninja. Houston, TX. We can do it better, if we keep it simple. Be good! #lrnchat
11:53:22 am mrch0mp3rs: RT @mbr1online: When orgs stop running on fear and distrust of their people, social media will fuel an explosion of engagement and innovation. #lrnchat
11:53:41 am LizPreedy: Liz Preedy – taking away one thought from @JudithELS requires a new mindset for org… seek those who are ready #lrnchat
11:54:04 am NYChase: Q4: Crowd-source the policies. It’s SoMe after all. #lrnchat
11:54:09 am CraigTaylor74: Qwrap) Craig Taylor, Cheshire, wishing that a certain colleague of mine had been here in #lrnchat today! http://bit.ly/9Md7Lc
11:54:14 am owenferguson: Qwrap) All over so soon. Owen, product manager at @goodpractice. Thanks again, people. #lrnchat
11:54:44 am Rsuominen: Thanks for a nice #lrnchat . Riitta Suominen from Finland- eTeacher, Course Designer, Writer, eLearning Consultant. #lrnchat
11:54:59 am simbeckhampson: @owenferguson Agreed, legal needs to be very accurate. Then out of the way, let people work – offer support, & be there, that’s it! #lrnchat
11:55:04 am socialtech: qwrap) Luke, Bournemouth UK, social media consultant or “internet communications advisor” http://socialtech.biz๐Ÿ™‚ good #lrnchat
11:55:29 am JamesMcLuckie: RT @simbeckhampson > So … “Do act sensibly” and “Do act passionately”.๐Ÿ˜‰ #lrnchat
11:55:36 am briandusablon: RT @mbr1online: When orgs stop running on fear & distrust of people, social media will fuel explosion of engagement & innovation. #lrnchat
11:56:09 am collentine: Josef from Sweden. Interesting first time but hopefuly less policies next time;) “SM focus on how to use it” http://bit.ly/ckcui2 #lrnchat
11:56:12 am mbr1online: @Rsuominen @briandusablon #lrnchat Where are those watercolor chat policies and blockers?
11:56:17 am simbeckhampson: Paul Simbeck-Hampson, G&T Drinker, Thinker, Doer, Life Long Learner. Thanks to the Lrnchat team for your dedication. #lrnchat
11:56:18 am briandusablon: Thanks all, it was awesome, as usual… #lrnchat
11:57:01 am StephanieDaul: RT @mbr1online: When orgs stop running on fear and distrust of their ppl, SoMe will fuel an explosion of engagement and innovation. #lrnchat
11:57:30 am simbeckhampson: @JamesMcLuckie Oooh… you DO DO๐Ÿ˜‰ True… but on the hand, no one needs to be told how to swallow when eating…๐Ÿ˜‰ #lrnchat
11:58:22 am cpjobling: RT @collentine: … hopefully less policies next time;) “SM focus on how to use it” http://bit.ly/ckcui2 < I was thinking the same #lrnchat
11:58:40 am mbr1online: Marty Rosenheck Chief Learning Strategist at Cedar Interactive believes we are ready for a comeback of Cognitive Apprenticeship. #lrnchat
11:58:45 am JamesMcLuckie: RT @simbeckhampson: Methinks it’s more to do with lending a guiding hand, TBH. Some are still very nervous about SoMe use. #lrnchat
11:58:50 am lrnchat: Thank you for joining us on #lrnchat. Pls invite others next week & tell us if you blog about the conversation. http://lrnchat.com

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