Transcript 13-May 2010 (Late)

08:31:33 pm lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1) Introduce yourself (we’ll do this again at the end): Location? Focus? Favorite topics?
08:31:41 pm tigerlily300: #lrnchat starting… please excuse all the tweets!
08:31:47 pm jsuzcampos: Using Tweetgrid because TweetChat is super-sick tonight! #lrnchat
08:32:00 pm everyselearning: TweetChat is not well. Oh darn..How will I keep up with #lrnchat tonight?
08:32:16 pm lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been? Q0 warm up after the rules.
08:32:26 pm ToddAHoffman: Todd. Pittsburgh- I work as a consultant for an educational software company
#lrnchat
08:32:33 pm nancyrubin: RT @everyselearning: Heading to #lrnchat all about Academic v. Corporate Instructional Design Details at http://bit.ly/11Am3 Join us!
08:32:52 pm JaneBozarth: Raleigh, ID-er, Train-er, Auth-er, world’s oldest Millenial. Ruler of Planet Jane #lrnchat
08:32:57 pm jwillensky: @everyselearning Try tweetgrid.com. Works beautifully, #lrnchat
08:32:58 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, ISD Consultant, Plano, Texas switching to Tweet Grid #lrnchat
08:33:10 pm millennial_ID: Christina, Instructional Design in Orange County, CA – joining for a second round today! #lrnchat
08:33:26 pm jwillensky: Jason Willensky, independent ID, advocate of LMS detente, Phoenix, AZ #lrnchat
08:33:43 pm jsuzcampos: Jeannette Campos, Red Sox Nation, ISD, workplace learning and grad prof. Great topic tonight! #lrnchat
08:33:48 pm everyselearning: @jwillensky Thanks for the tip. I’ll try it. #lrnchat
08:33:52 pm ThomasStone: @britz Hi are you this evening, fellow update-NY’er? Were your ears burning? I mentioned you tonight at a GV-ASTD meeting #lrnchat
08:34:14 pm lrnchat: 2) Try to stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 20 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
08:34:32 pm tigerlily300: I’m searching for #lrnchat live on TweetGrid Search – http://tweetgrid.com/search?q=%23lrnchat
08:34:46 pm billcush: Bill Cushard. Charlotte, NC. Training dude of sales and software stuff. #lrnchat
08:34:47 pm urbie: Urbie Delgado, ID & iPad driver, wash dc, urbie.com #lrnchat
08:34:48 pm TriciaRansom: Thanks for the tweetgrid tip…this is great!  #lrnchat
08:34:50 pm seanbengry: Sean Bengry, Rochester, NY, ID manager at Accenture Academy #lrnchat
08:34:58 pm kelly_smith01: I have been gr8. Trying to woo potential clients with cool proof of concept stuff. #lrnchat
08:35:08 pm lrnchat: 4) Remember to include #lrnchat in all posts or use a tool like http://tweetchat.com or http://tweetgrid.com
08:35:14 pm tigerlily300: Kathy J, instructional designer, Columbus, GA #lrnchat
08:35:16 pm lrnchat: 3) Write complete thoughts to help followers outside #lrnchat learn from you.
08:35:22 pm JaneBozarth: I herby deputize @jwillensky, @jsuzcampos @kelly_smith01 @sahana2802 interim acting #lrnchat moderators
08:35:36 pm ThomasStone: Thomas Stone, from Element K in Rochester, NY. I just came from a good local ASTD chapter event, now ready for #lrnchat
08:35:42 pm nancyrubin: Hi #lrnchat. Nancy Rubin – Ed and Training at Learning Objects in DC – http://ow.ly/1KSvc – I am in So Fla
08:35:50 pm Bloomfire: Nemo, asian kid w/ dreadlocks currently interviewing 100s of Fortune 1000 learning pros for a new e-pub: http://ow.ly/1KSk0 #lrnchat newbie
08:35:51 pm JaneBozarth: …because those are the first names I saw. We’re a discerning group. #lrnchat
08:35:56 pm ChristyATucker: Outside Raleigh, NC, instructional designer, spending lots of time playing with Moodle  #lrnchat
08:36:13 pm TriciaRansom: Tricia in Chi. owner of M.A. in HPI in less than 24 hours! #lrnchat
08:36:17 pm lrnchat: 5) Periodically RT questions so those outside #lrnchat know what we’re talking about & so they can contribute too.
08:36:18 pm kelly_smith01: I’m getting real-time search results at TweetGrid http://tweetgrid.com/ #lrnchat
08:36:19 pm JaneBozarth: I love that rule about staying on the topic. Heh heh. #lrnchat
08:36:25 pm SueSchnorr: in Rochester, NY  –> Instructional Design Consusltant;crashed the earlier #lrnchat party, but wanted to say hi 2  u. Only here 4 short time
08:36:30 pm lrnchat: 6) On #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm & irony welcome though. Really.
08:37:05 pm marciamarcia: yes! RT @JaneBozarth I herby deputize @jwillensky @jsuzcampos @kelly_smith01 @sahana2802 interim acting #lrnchat moderators
08:37:21 pm kelly_smith01: Lost on Tweet Deck #lrnchat
08:37:21 pm jsuzcampos: @tigerlily300 Hi Kathy, I’ll be in Columbus next month! #lrnchat
08:37:53 pm britz: Mark Britz ISD, Syracuse, NY #lrnchat
08:37:57 pm Bloomfire: RT @TriciaRansom: Tricia in Chi. owner of M.A. in HPI in less than 24 hours! #lrnchat (How exciting! Will you be at #astd10?)
08:38:02 pm jwillensky: @JaneBozarth @marciamarcia Who here believes in moderation? #lrnchat
08:38:12 pm tigerlily300: @jsuzcampos🙂 What is bringing you to Columbus? #lrnchat
08:38:22 pm sahana2802: RT @lrnchat: 5) Periodically RT questions so those outside #lrnchat know what we’re talking about & so they can contribute too.
08:38:25 pm sahana2802: RT @lrnchat: 6) On #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm & irony welcome though. Really.
08:38:39 pm lrnchat: Q0) What did you learn today? If not today, then what did you learn this week? #lrnchat
08:38:39 pm marciamarcia: This week I learned that just b/c at the time it felt terrific staying awake on the redeye, days later I’m falling fast. #lrnchat
08:38:40 pm TriciaRansom: Yep! You? RT @Bloomfire:Tricia in Chi. owner of M.A. in HPI in less than 24 hours! #lrnchat (How exciting! Will you be at #astd10?)
08:38:46 pm lrnchat: 7) 10 min before end, reintroduce yourself. Links & requests (or shameless plugs) welcome, too #lrnchat
08:38:49 pm doctorjeff: Why LOVE #Twitter? NOW AT HUFFINGTON POST: Water Cooler for 21st Century: http://huff.to/dqThWS #lrnchat #ageop #assnchat #blogchat
08:38:50 pm jwillensky: @TriciaRansom Congratulations! #lrnchat
08:38:59 pm JaneBozarth: OK @MarciaMarcia has been saying for the last 7 hours that she was too tired to #lrnchat. Apparently fear of what I’ll do prevails.
08:39:21 pm jsuzcampos: @tigerlily300 Baby brother graduates from Fort Benning, then off to Fort Rucker to fly #Army choppers (like my husband)! #lrnchat
08:39:24 pm TriciaRansom: @jwillensky Thanks much! #lrnchat
08:39:29 pm everyselearning: Myra Rhodes, Instructional Designer, entrepreneur, online trainer, specializing in web design with Dreamweaver http://www.everyones.com #lrnchat
08:39:35 pm sahana2802: RT @lrnchat: 7) 10 min before end, reintroduce yourself. Links & requests (or shameless plugs) welcome, too #lrnchat
08:39:46 pm JaneBozarth: Well, I don’t know about the sarcasm and irony thing. Lately even agreement has been getting me into trouble . #lrnchat
08:39:49 pm sahana2802: RT @lrnchat: Q0) What did you learn today? If not today, then what did you learn this week? #lrnchat
08:39:49 pm billcush: Though lately, I’m an acting product tester. RT @billcush: Bill Cushard. Charlotte, NC. Training dude of sales and software stuff. #lrnchat
08:40:09 pm kelly_smith01: I re-read some Rummler on identifying gaps #lrnchat
08:40:11 pm jsuzcampos: @marciamarcia @JaneBozarth, I am happy to interim, act and deputize. Is there a handbook for that? #lrnchat
08:40:12 pm JaneBozarth: @TriciaRansom So how was your trip here? #lrnchat
08:40:33 pm bacigalupe: Q0) #lrnchat sharing my talk on my journey through various technologies in teaching http://tinyurl.com/232fup3 learn a lot from audience
08:40:36 pm smitty1966: Jeff Smith – Toronto – edupros Tech Director. #lrnchat
08:40:45 pm joe_deegan: Jumping in late to #lrnchat. Sorry, the Dog demanded a Walk.
08:40:46 pm marciamarcia: Tonight just waving to #lrnchat and thanking @janebozarth (& deputized moderators). Will see many of you next week at #ASTD10
08:40:50 pm ToddAHoffman: Q0)- #lrnchat This week I learned how to use the #chat feature on twitter- I’m learning so much!
08:40:51 pm everyselearning: TweetGrid is cool. I like the [Reply] [ReTweet] [Favorite] links beside each tweet #lrnchat
08:40:52 pm tigerlily300: @jsuzcampos That’s awesome! Go to the infantry museum while you’re here (if you haven’t been there already)… very nice! #lrnchat
08:40:54 pm millennial_ID: @jsuzcampos – no but there is a job aid! :p #lrnchat
08:40:58 pm jkunrein: RT @lrnchat: Q0) What did you learn today? If not today, then what did you learn this week? #lrnchat
08:40:59 pm TriciaRansom: Too short, too cold, but wonderful! Wanted to spend more time RT @JaneBozarth: @TriciaRansom So how was your trip here? #lrnchat
08:41:02 pm JaneBozarth: Q0) I learned some new dance steps in dealing with the IT dept. #lrnchat
08:41:04 pm seanbengry: I learned that Adobe and Apple have a love like a Greek tragedy, someone is bound to die in the end… #lrnchat
08:41:07 pm jsuzcampos: Q0) This is a good one, I’ve been waiting all week. I learned that the platypus is venomous. WHO KNEW? #lrnchat
08:41:16 pm ChristyATucker: Q0) This week I learned how to manipulate Moodle weighted grades #lrnchat
08:41:33 pm JaneBozarth: @marciamarcia Check for that to Bozarthzone LLC, please. thx #lrnchat
08:41:35 pm tigerlily300: Q0) Learned (again) that no matter what you do, you always find issues during testing.  #lrnchat
08:41:43 pm jsuzcampos: @JaneBozarth Rumor has it they love the fox trot. #lrnchat
08:41:46 pm lrnchat: Q1) What is different about academic versus corporate ID? #lrnchat
08:41:50 pm everyselearning: RT @seanbengry: I learned that Adobe and Apple have a love like a Greek tragedy, someone is bound to die in the end… #lrnchat
08:42:05 pm jsuzcampos: @tigerlily300 Will do! Thanks for the tip! #lrnchat
08:42:11 pm ThomasStone: Q0: This week I learned that what might initially appear to be a rant, can actually be quite full of great points and perspective. #lrnchat
08:42:16 pm TriciaRansom: Q0) I learned that testing is good, patience is better, and that I NEED an iPad! #lrnchat
08:42:17 pm JaneBozarth: Not me. RT @jsuzcampos: Q0) This is a good one, I’ve been waiting all week. I learned that the platypus is venomous. WHO KNEW? #lrnchat
08:42:22 pm everyselearning: I learned that I have a love/hate relationship with Adobe – particularly with Business Catalyst #lrnchat
08:42:22 pm jwillensky: Q0) I learned that my adopted state of AZ sinks ever more deeply into embarrassing muck. #lrnchat
08:42:26 pm tigerlily300: RT @seanbengry: I learned that Adobe and Apple have a love like a Greek tragedy, someone is bound to die in the end. #lrnchat ->LOL
08:42:27 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What is different about academic versus corporate ID? #lrnchat
08:42:30 pm jkunrein: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What is different about academic versus corporate ID? #lrnchat
08:42:35 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What is different about academic versus corporate ID? #lrnchat
08:42:48 pm billcush: Q0) This week I learned that udutu has potential. #lrnchat
08:42:49 pm sahana2802: Q0: Lrnd tht Rhett Butler’s “My dear, I don’t give a damn anymore” moment can happen in real life too & not only in personal sphere #lrnchat
08:43:11 pm JanSimpson: RT @sahana2802: Q0: Lrnd tht Rhett Butler’s “My dear, I don’t give a damn anymore” moment can happen in real life too & not only in personal sphere #lrnchat
08:43:16 pm JaneBozarth: @billcush Oh good on udutu. @c4lpt has lots of knowledge on that, I think. #lrnchat
08:43:37 pm billcush: Q0) I also learned that eventually you have to stop tinkering with new stuff and get back to business. #lrnchat
08:43:39 pm ThomasStone: @JaneBozarth I think its jealousy from one red-haired avatar of another! #lrnchat
08:43:50 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Worked in both, I had saw and had greater collaboration in academia. #lrnchat
08:43:53 pm sahana2802: Q0: Also learned about different narrative styles that can be used in organizations–reading a leader’s guide to storytelling. #lrnchat
08:44:05 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone sorry? #lrnchat
08:44:06 pm jwillensky: @ThomasStone Agree, and the passion behind it can be riveting. #lrnchat
08:44:09 pm billcush: Started playing with it this week. RT @JaneBozarth: @billcush Oh good on udutu. @c4lpt has lots of knowledge on that, I think. #lrnchat
08:44:37 pm ThomasStone: @jsuzcampos One rule, a la Barney Fife: keep your single bullet in your pocket. #lrnchat
08:44:40 pm SueSchnorr: Q0  This week I learned that Office 2007 doesn’t like my machine!😦 #lrnchat boo hiss for time wasted installing & reinstalling  #lrnchat
08:44:48 pm sahana2802: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What is different about academic versus corporate ID? #lrnchat
08:44:56 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What is different about academic versus corporate ID? #lrnchat
08:45:05 pm JaneBozarth: And don’t forget the #lrnchat drinking game: http://lrnchatdrinkinggame.wikispaces.com/
08:45:18 pm urbie: learned that tapping heels together whilst chanting there’s no place like home works only in the movies #lrnchat
08:45:18 pm _jude: #lrnchat  I work for a nonprofit that does work in the developing world.  I do everything fromm strategy to courses to user support.
08:45:18 pm seanbengry: Q1) having experience in both realms, academia focuses on core competencies, corporate is job/industry competencies  #lrnchat
08:45:31 pm minutebio: Corp ID – Your audience is getting paid 2 learn (extrinsic) Academic audience shld hv mo intrinsic motivation #lrnchat
08:45:40 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) I think the external demands and market pressures on these two spaces are markedly different, shaping proces and protocol. #lrnchat
08:45:52 pm billcush: RT @ThomasStone: Q0: This week I learned that what might appear a rant, can actually be full of great points and perspective. #lrnchat
08:45:56 pm Bloomfire: @JaneBozarth I was wondering about that. I’m ready…currently sitting in a bar anyway #lrnchat
08:45:58 pm ChristyATucker: Agreed, but with exceptions RT @kelly_smith01: Q1) Worked in both, I saw and had greater collaboration in academia. #lrnchat
08:46:07 pm tigerlily300: Q1) Haven’t worked as an ID in academia, only corp. Hard to know, but suspect academic = > learning focus; corp = > perf. focus #lrnchat
08:46:08 pm joe_deegan: Q1) Haven’t experienced the Ed side but from the corp perspective everything needed to be done yesterday and at less expense. #lrnchat
08:46:09 pm gminks: this week I learned how much work it is to be on the work side of a conference #lrnchat
08:46:27 pm seanbengry: Q1) We try to “teach” in academia, we try to “train” in corporate  #lrnchat
08:46:43 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) I saw greater “buy in” to ISD in academia. Perhaps faculty/staff ties and respect 4 research based effort. #lrnchat
08:46:46 pm minutebio: RT @seanbengry: Q1) We try to “teach” in academia, we try to “train” in corporate  #lrnchat
08:46:54 pm JaneBozarth: @sahana2802 Check out @makingstories on that, too. #lrnchat
08:47:01 pm gminks: q1: corp learning objectives are focused on work performance #lrnchat
08:47:05 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) Most (not all) academic is knowledge/wisdom/cognitive based, corporate is much more targeted at skill/competency #lrnchat
08:47:09 pm ToddAHoffman: Q1)- #lrnchat – I think there is more in common than many would believe on the surface
08:47:13 pm jwillensky: Q1) Deferring to @jsuzcampos & @kelly_smith01on this question. Curious. #lrnchat
08:47:26 pm sahana2802: Q1: Academic IDs design courses that are more knowledge focused, detailed and corp IDs design more skill-focused ones. Know vs. Do #lrnchat
08:47:28 pm urbie: Q#1 difference between higher-ed and corp ID = development time, standards, and scope. #lrnchat
08:47:29 pm ThomasStone: @JaneBozarth Meaning it sounded like Marcia was jealous of giving you control this evening! #lrnchat
08:47:32 pm TriciaRansom: Have ‘t been in academia, but have been a student. Don’t find as much WIFFM there as in corporate. #lrnchat
08:47:38 pm Bloomfire: Q1) Second Life might be cool for corporate, but many young people (like me) see little point for it in academia. #lrnchat
08:47:38 pm jsuzcampos: @kelly_smith01 Interesting, I have the exact opposotie experience. #highered is reluctant, whereas as corporate is eager #lrnchat
08:47:50 pm everyselearning: Academic-Get source materials for tried & tested from published materials Corporate-get knowledge from SMEs & programmers #lrnchat
08:47:59 pm nancyrubin: RT @sahana2802: Q1: Academic IDs design courses that are more knowledge focused, detailed and corp IDs design more skill-focused ones. Know vs. Do #lrnchat
08:48:07 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) But guess that underlying basics are very very similar between them. #lrnchat
08:48:08 pm millennial_ID: RT @TriciaRansom: Have ‘t been in academia, but have been a student. Don’t find as much WIFFM there as in corporate. #lrnchat
08:48:20 pm tigerlily300: RT @TriciaRansom: Have ‘t been in academia, but have been a student. Don’t find as much WIFFM there as in corporate. #lrnchat Me2
08:48:33 pm jsuzcampos: @jwillensky You’re deferring to me? Oh no!? We’re supposed to be partners! #lrnchat
08:48:39 pm ChristyATucker: Absolutely. RT @ToddAHoffman: Q1)- #lrnchat – I think there is more in common than many would believe on the surface
08:48:42 pm smitty1966: ID is the bosses job. I defer. I learned to be humble on the face of a challenge from a four yr. Old. #lrnchat
08:48:51 pm billcush: Q1) Academic ID…to get people to learn how to think…Corp ID: get people to act toward specific, immediate common goal. #lrnchat
08:48:53 pm ThomasStone: Who on #lrnchat tonight will be at #astd10 next week (Chicago), and interested in meeting other lrnchatters?  me = yes please
08:48:57 pm bacigalupe: Q1) different academic vs corporate ID? #lrnchat one thinks is important, the other pays if it achieves something important
08:49:00 pm TriciaRansom: Oops, typo! RT @TriciaRansom: Haven’t been in academia, but have been student. Don’t find as much WIFFM there as in corporate. #lrnchat
08:49:06 pm everyselearning: ok I guess I’m the only one who doesn’t know what WIFFM means #lrnchat
08:49:10 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) Corporate more focused on process and outcomes. Academia more focused on … the syllabus #lrnchat
08:49:12 pm TriciaRansom: me #lrnchat
08:49:19 pm ToddAHoffman: @jsuzcampos #lrnchat I think most resist change- corps just have more resources to support users
08:49:19 pm michelle300: Michelle Moore, ESI International, Learning Solutions Consultant, Maryland  #lrnchat
08:49:24 pm michelle300: RT @lrnchat: Q0) What did you learn today? If not today, then what did you learn this week? #lrnchat
08:49:28 pm jsuzcampos: @everyselearning What’s In It For Me #lrnchat
08:49:41 pm JaneBozarth: Q1 I have hard time getting many to understand there IS a diff btwn the environments. #lrnchat
08:49:48 pm TriciaRansom: What In It For Me – the why of learning RT @everyselearning: ok I guess I’m the only one who doesn’t know what WIFFM means #lrnchat
08:50:04 pm JaneBozarth: They’ve been deputies for 7 minutes and already there’s infighting… #lrnchat
08:50:28 pm Bloomfire: Q1) Academia defines success more as attitudinal change. Corporate defines success more as behavioral change. #lrnchat
08:50:36 pm kelly_smith01: @jsuzcampos I worked at a health education (allied health & nursing) institution.  Not everyone bought in. Enuff 2 keep me BZ, #lrnchat
08:50:39 pm everyselearning: @jsuzcampos Ahh. Right. Makes sense. Thanks. #lrnchat
08:50:40 pm millennial_ID: I have trouble seeing the similarities, but…have never been in academia, only a student #lrnchat
08:50:43 pm joe_deegan: Bingo RT @jsuzcampos: Q1) Corporate more focused on process and outcomes. Academia more focused on … the syllabus #lrnchat
08:50:54 pm Bloomfire: @ThomasStone I’ll be at #astd10 too! You know there’s a tweetup? #lrnchat
08:51:01 pm michelle300: Q0-This week I learned more about Single Source Publishing using a LCMS. Reading Single Sourcing by Kurt Ament. #lrnchat
08:51:01 pm profgesser: not participating in #lrnchat tonight because the subject matter is out of my league (and a tough Cavs-Celtics game!)
08:51:06 pm tigerlily300: Q1) Academic -> content focus is ok. Corporate -> not so much #lrnchat
08:51:08 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) Academic defines success as a transcript and GPA. Corporate defines success as revenue. #lrnchat
08:51:09 pm seanbengry: RT @Bloomfire: Q1) Academia defines success more as attitudinal change. Corporate defines success more as behavioral change. #lrnchat
08:51:24 pm jsuzcampos: #lrnchat
08:51:33 pm jwillensky: @jsuzcampos You handle this one; I’ll handle the jeopardy questions🙂 #lrnchat
08:51:35 pm Bloomfire: RT @ThomasStone: Who on #lrnchat tonight will be at #astd10 next week (Chicago), and interested in meeting other lrnchatters?  me = yes please
08:51:39 pm sahana2802: Q1: Academic ID wld want/need to include space for student collab in their design.This is not yet a mandate in corp trng tho shd be #lrnchat
08:52:00 pm nancyrubin: Q1) Academia IDs tend to be do it all with less resources than corp or for-profit universities (in my exp) #lrnchat
08:52:02 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) Interestingly, my favorite environment is the Corporate University, where the best of both worlds harmonize #lrnchat
08:52:03 pm michelle300: RT @bacigalupe: Q0) #lrnchat sharing my talk on my journey through various technologies in teaching http://tinyurl.com/232fup3 learn a lot from audience
08:52:14 pm EMCEducation: wow I see corp training way different than most of you #lrnchat
08:52:20 pm jsuzcampos: RT @jwillensky: @jsuzcampos You handle this one; I’ll handle the jeopardy questions  <and the drinking game! #lrnchat
08:52:23 pm ChristyATucker: @JaneBozarth Environments are different, but skills are transferable back & forth between academic & corporate #lrnchat
08:52:40 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) I think there are more turf wars and in-fighting in academia. #lrnchat
08:52:48 pm ToddAHoffman: @jsuzcampos Where is that? #lrnchat
08:52:55 pm Bloomfire: @profgesser You can do both. I’m doing #lrnchat and watching the game. Looked like the Cavs were in trouble!
08:52:57 pm michelle300: RT @tigerlily300: Q0) Learned (again) that no matter what you do, you always find issues during testing.  #lrnchat
08:53:06 pm jwillensky: @jsuzcampos I’m a lightweight! #lrnchat
08:53:19 pm JaneBozarth: @EMCEducation Say more? #lrnchat
08:53:28 pm ChristyATucker: Q1 Agree @sahana2802 that academic ID is more focused on helping learners collaborate #lrnchat
08:53:34 pm gminks: whooops wrong id🙂 #lrnchat
08:53:38 pm ThomasStone: Yes, Monday night right? RT @Bloomfire: @ThomasStone I’ll be at #astd10 too! You know there’s a tweetup? #lrnchat
08:53:43 pm britz: Q1) learners more critical of design and functionality of academic elearning…maybe because they experience more lengthy courses #lrnchat
08:53:49 pm Bloomfire: @jwillensky Me lightweight too! Haha #lrnchat
08:54:00 pm Tim_M_Martin: correct for corp education but most is training: getting people to do the right think at right time @billcush: Q1) Corp ID:   #lrnchat
08:54:05 pm billcush: Q1) Don’t think there are mgrs in Academia who say, “I know it should take 8 hours to train this…you’ve got 30 minutes. #lrnchat
08:54:14 pm michelle300: Q1-Difference between Academic and Corporate ID. – Should there be any?  #lrnchat
08:54:14 pm reward75: Sorry I’m late. Regina, NYC, about to break out of academia #lrnchat
08:54:18 pm nancyrubin: Q1) As someone who works for a social learning company, I am curious if Web 2.0 tools are important in both worlds? #lrnchat
08:54:25 pm Bloomfire: @ThomasStone Fantastic! Looking forward to meeting you! #astd10 #lrnchat
08:54:29 pm michelle300: RT @ThomasStone: Q0: This week I learned that what might initially appear to be a rant, can actually be quite full of great points and perspective. #lrnchat
08:54:30 pm sahana2802: RT @joe_deegan: Bingo RT @jsuzcampos: Q1) Corporate more focused on process and outcomes. Academia more focused on … the syllabus #lrnchat
08:54:34 pm gminks: @JaneBozarth what we do is focused on content, and is education. More than training, though it is focused on job roles #lrnchat
08:54:38 pm michelle300: RT @TriciaRansom: Q0) I learned that testing is good, patience is better, and that I NEED an iPad! #lrnchat
08:54:50 pm ToddAHoffman: @billcush Ha! #lrnchat
08:54:51 pm everyselearning: @jwillensky Diff with TweetGrid – no slider for refresh rate & it doesn’t bold the tweet when you’re involved #lrnchat
08:54:51 pm sahana2802: RT @nancyrubin: Q1) As someone who works for a social learning company, I am curious if Web 2.0 tools are important in both worlds? #lrnchat
08:54:56 pm michelle300: RT @jwillensky: Q0) I learned that my adopted state of AZ sinks ever more deeply into embarrassing muck. #lrnchat
08:54:58 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) I understand Deloite is build a big Corporate U in the Dallas area. Even in the belt-tightening times. #lrnchat
08:55:02 pm SuzNet: I’m having trouble with tweetchat 2nite. Alternatives? #lrnchat
08:55:08 pm jwillensky: @Bloomfire Yeah, I heard. Ha! #lrnchat
08:55:11 pm californiakara: Q1) Red tape #lrnchat
08:55:15 pm jsuzcampos: RT @nancyrubin: Q1)  I am curious if Web 2.0 tools are important in both worlds? <IMO, YES! #lrnchat
08:55:16 pm Bloomfire: @Tim_M_Martin Hey! Didn’t expect to see you here at #lrnchat. I guess it’s where the cool kids hang, eh? Going to #astd10?
08:55:26 pm ThomasStone: me too! RT @Bloomfire: @profgesser You can do both. I’m doing #lrnchat and watching the game. Looked like the Cavs were in trouble!
08:55:29 pm TriciaRansom: HAHA RT @billcush:Don’t think there r mgrs in Academia saying,”I know it should take 8 hours to train this…you’ve got 30 minutes. #lrnchat
08:55:30 pm JaneBozarth: @ChristyATucker I meant, mgrs think workplace trng should look like “school”: someone standing up, lecturing #lrnchat
08:55:43 pm jsuzcampos: RT @SuzNet: I’m having trouble with tweetchat 2nite. Alternatives? <<TweetGrid or TwitterFall or TweetDeck #lrnchat
08:55:47 pm ChristyATucker: @nancyrubin Personally, I did much more web 2.0 in higher ed than I do now in corporate #lrnchat
08:55:55 pm seanbengry: Q0) Learned that “Avengers Assemble!” was more than just a #lrnchat call to order (shameless Iron Man plug)
08:55:59 pm JaneBozarth: RT @californiakara: Q1) Red tape #lrnchat
08:56:06 pm Bloomfire: @nancyrubin I work in a similar company. I think the tools look different because the people are different. #lrnchat
08:56:12 pm kasey428: I learned a 17″ laptop loaded with Adobe Suite has a power pack the size of a brick. #lrnchat
08:56:13 pm everyselearning: @SuzNet I was too and @jwillensky told me about TweetGrid #lrnchat
08:56:14 pm urbie: Q#1 higher-ed has more resources [university level] and more commitment [jr. college level].. also they REALLY value credentials #lrnchat
08:56:21 pm michelle300: RT @urbie: learned that tapping heels together whilst chanting there’s no place like home works only in the movies #lrnchat
08:56:30 pm reward75: Q1) traditionally, it’s the whole education vs. training debate. Academia=learn now use later, Corp=learn now use now #lrnchat
08:56:37 pm Bloomfire: @TriciaRansom Have you seen the Comcast iPad app? Pretty sweet. #lrnchat
08:56:41 pm Tim_M_Martin: why not Im here often… be on a tad vacation the last couple of weeks, thats all @bloomfire  #lrnchat #astd10
08:56:50 pm nancyrubin: #lrnchat Q1 – corp training seems more skill-oriented or hr oriented – academia more objective and std. focused
08:56:51 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Much more larner evaluation (mostly knowledge) in academia. #lrnchat
08:56:57 pm ToddAHoffman: #lrnchat Often less collaboration in corp
08:57:02 pm odguru: As I said this am…uni learners wonder “what should I do with my life?” Workplace learners wonder “what AM I doing with my life”#lrnchat
08:57:06 pm everyselearning: RT @urbie: learned that tapping heels together whilst chanting there’s no place like home works only in the movies #lrnchat
08:57:10 pm jwillensky: @everyselearning I use 1×4 layout. Columns 4 full stream, #lrnchat, mentions, DMs. Works OK, but I’m used to setting it up.
08:57:11 pm tigerlily300: Q1) Essential cores-similar. Culture, goals, esp. audience diff. Can vary greatly from school -> school & business -> business. #lrnchat
08:57:13 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) Agree with @urbie, there is a difference in credentials (for better or for worse) between #highered and corporate #ISD #lrnchat
08:57:16 pm ThomasStone: @SuzNet Long time no see. I recommend Tweetdeck as alternative, create a search column for #lrnchat Works best for me.
08:57:24 pm seanbengry: RT @californiakara: Q1) Red tape #lrnchat  —-  I think it’s more a matter of how long the tape is…
08:57:37 pm ChristyATucker: @JaneBozarth But I don’t think school should look like “school” either.  We should break that mold in both places. #lrnchat
08:57:43 pm JaneBozarth: RT @urbie: Q#1 high-ed- more resources [Univ level] & more commitment [jr. college level].. also they REALLY value credentials #lrnchat
08:57:48 pm everyselearning: More prep time with Corp. Academia, always teaching #lrnchat
08:57:49 pm britz: @ThomasStone BTW I’m hoping to join forces with GV-ASTD in the near future. wht was nature of your conversation? #lrnchat
08:57:50 pm bschlenker: RT @reward75: Q1) traditionally, it’s the whole education vs. training debate. Academia=learn now use later, Corp=learn now use now #lrnchat
08:57:58 pm JaneBozarth: @ChristyATucker ok #lrnchat
08:58:07 pm Bloomfire: RT @kelly_smith01: Q1) Much more larner evaluation (mostly knowledge) in academia. #lrnchat (Good point)
08:58:24 pm minutebio: RT @kelly_smith01: Q1) Much more larner evaluation (mostly knowledge) in academia. / Gd Crp evaluate, but less emphasis on #lrnchat
08:58:35 pm billcush: They must get it. RT @kelly_smith01: Q1 Understand Deloite building big Corporate U in Dallas area..in the belt-tightening times. #lrnchat
08:58:38 pm everyselearning: RT @reward75: Q1) traditionally, it’s the whole education vs. training debate. Academia=learn now use later, Corp=learn now use now #lrnchat
08:58:56 pm JaneBozarth: Back to the Q…. How is ID different in the 2 settings? #lrnchat
08:58:57 pm sahana2802: RT @reward75: Q1) traditionally, it’s the whole education vs. training debate. Academia=learn now use later, Corp=learn now use now #lrnchat
08:58:59 pm urbie: Q#1 higher-ed audience is VERY diverse as are their [student] resources; corp has very narrow variation [in terms of delivery tech] #lrnchat
08:59:09 pm kasey428: Q1) Corporate learning should result in practical application right away, whereas in academia is about later application. #lrnchat
08:59:20 pm JaneBozarth: RT @reward75: Q1) traditionally, it’s the whole educ vs. training debate. Academia=learn now use later, Corp=learn now use now #lrnchat
08:59:30 pm Bloomfire: @bschlenker Hey bud, joining us at #lrnchat?
08:59:32 pm britz: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @californiakara: Q1) Red tape #lrnchat /is it the shade of red , length, or thickness of the tape thats different?
08:59:44 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) In corporate, ID usually engaged to respond to a performance problem or need, in academic, not so much. #lrnchat
09:00:11 pm minutebio: Challenge in Corp setting – larger diversity in educational background/levels #lrnchat
09:00:17 pm gminks: RT @jsuzcampos: Q1) In corporate, ID usually engaged to respond to a performance problem or need, in academic, not so much. #lrnchat
09:00:31 pm kasey428: Corporate looks for $$$ return or strategic goals met. Education often is education for education sake.  #lrnchat
09:00:40 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) In corp, ID usually needs to improve performance/results. In academia, more about knowledge. #lrnchat
09:00:58 pm JaneBozarth: Back to Q…. are there differences in ID for the 2 environments? Some are saying acad. designs for more collaboration? #lrnchat
09:01:00 pm jsuzcampos: RT @urbie: Q1) highered has VERY diverse resources; corp has very narrow variation <<Opposite is true in my experience] #lrnchat
09:01:01 pm nancyrubin: #lrnchat Q1) Often see more scenario-based learning in corp training. That would be a great trend to carry over to academia!
09:01:01 pm sahana2802: Corp training is focused on what learners can apply to their job; academia on measuring what students know in theory. #lrnchat
09:01:04 pm billcush: @ToddAHoffman Academia has more collaboration? #lrnchat
09:01:05 pm michelle300: Interesting but are they valid? > RT @jsuzcampos Q1) Academic def. success as a transcript and GPA. Corp defines success as $. #lrnchat
09:01:13 pm reward75: Although for both, usually someone else decides what we need to learn😦 #lrnchat
09:01:16 pm tigerlily300: RT @kasey428: Corporate looks for $$$ return or strategic goals met. Education often is education for education sake.  #lrnchat
09:01:26 pm urbie: @gminks disagree: higher-ed has students and professional development of staff; they’re corp in that sense #lrnchat
09:01:31 pm michelle300: RT @jsuzcampos: Q1) Interestingly, my favorite environment is the Corporate University, where the best of both worlds harmonize #lrnchat
09:01:43 pm ChristyATucker: RT @bschlenker RT @reward75: Q1) it’s the whole education vs. training debate. Academia=learn now use later, Corp=learn now use now #lrnchat
09:01:46 pm ToddAHoffman: @kasey428 Yes- The “return on investment” is difficult to measure in education #lrnchat
09:02:00 pm Bloomfire: RT @sahana2802: Corp training is focused on wat learners can apply to their job; academia on measuring wat students know in theory. #lrnchat
09:02:16 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) Longer course/class length in academic (semester/quarter) vs. short JIT. Different amt of detail nice-to-know can be covered #lrnchat
09:02:20 pm tigerlily300: Q1) Corp. education is more practical. Academic is more theoretical.  #lrnchat
09:02:27 pm ThomasStone: @britz interesting. We had the same thought… doing joint events with CNY and Buffalo ASTD chapters. LOL nice!  #lrnchat
09:02:34 pm RayJimenez: 1) plenty of original research stems from academia hence place to discover #lrnchat
09:02:54 pm sahana2802: Corp training begins wth business gap/need analysis & cater to fill tht; academia follows a pre-set syllabus/curriculum for a level #lrnchat
09:03:00 pm Dave_Ferguson: One commonality that academia and corporate life often share: listening is equated with learning. #lrnchat
09:03:02 pm ToddAHoffman: @billcush Sure- Departments and grade level teams always collaborate to improve instruction #lrnchat
09:03:12 pm sahana2802: RT @ChristyATucker: RT @bschlenker RT @reward75: Q1) it’s the whole education vs. training debate. Academia=learn now use later, Corp=learn now use now #lrnchat
09:03:20 pm JaneBozarth: RT @Dave_Ferguson: One commonality that academia and corporate life often share: listening is equated with learning. #lrnchat
09:03:28 pm britz: Q1) corp ID forces ISD’s to explore the whole learner environment to determine best solution – learner, context, tools #lrnchat
09:03:31 pm tigerlily300: RT @ToddAHoffman: @kasey428 Yes- The “ROI” is difficult to measure in education #lrnchat > & who makes the investment is different
09:03:32 pm billcush: Q1) dont think the design process any different…in both…figure out goals, then best way to facilitate learning topic… #lrnchat
09:03:35 pm jsuzcampos: And @Dave_Ferguson has entered the building! #lrnchat
09:03:37 pm jwillensky: RT @Dave_Ferguson: One commonality that academia and corporate life often share: listening is equated with learning. #lrnchat
09:03:38 pm ChristyATucker: Q1) Academic ID is often a safer place to experiment & take risks than corporate ID #lrnchat
09:03:38 pm sahana2802: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @Dave_Ferguson: One commonality that academia and corporate life often share: listening is equated with learning. #lrnchat
09:03:48 pm Bloomfire: 1) Corp cares about learner-centered on-demand learning, academia focuses on instructor-led. #lrnchat
09:03:55 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) In academia (from ISD view) content  already selected. Normally dean and academic committee  do not consult ISD folks. #lrnchat
09:04:07 pm ChristyATucker: RT @Dave_Ferguson: One commonality that academia and corporate life often share: listening is equated with learning. #lrnchat
09:04:10 pm JaneBozarth: Thank goodness someone finally said ROI. Drink! #lrnchat
09:04:16 pm kasey428: Some corporate settings do allow employees to determine career & learning paths to reach individual goals in light of corp mission. #lrnchat
09:04:32 pm JaneBozarth: RT @kelly_smith01: Q1) In academia content  already selected. Normally dean and academic committee  do not consult ISD folks. #lrnchat
09:04:34 pm joe_deegan: Q1) Academia definitely more collaborative while you see more Self Paced design in corp. Scheduling challenges, reusability, etc.  #lrnchat
09:04:43 pm billcush: @ToddAHoffman Do you think Corp IDers and subject matter experts collaborate to improve instruction? #lrnchat? I say sometimes yes.
09:05:13 pm reward75: RT @Dave_Ferguson: One commonality that academia and corporate life often share: listening is equated with learning. #lrnchat
09:05:23 pm minutebio: RT @kasey428: sum corp settings allow employees 2 determine career & learning paths 2 reach indivl goals in light of corp mission. #lrnchat
09:05:26 pm sahana2802: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @kelly_smith01: Q1) In academia content  already selected. Normally dean and academic committee  do not consult ISD folks. #lrnchat
09:05:30 pm gminks: Where I work, IDs are SMEs #lrnchat
09:05:48 pm smitty1966: RT @joe_deegan Q1) Academia def. more collaborative while you see more Self Paced design in corp. Sched. challenges, reusability. #lrnchat
09:05:56 pm Dave_Ferguson: Do corp designers & subject-matter experts collaborate? Yes, ideally to improve results rather than instruction. Speramus meliora. #lrnchat
09:05:56 pm ThomasStone: Speaking of higher-ed, did anyone else see this very interesting interview of Seth Godin in Chronicle of HE? #lrnchat http://bit.ly/c7ljyv
09:06:01 pm urbie: Q#1 higher-ed locality matters: fewer resources [less tax base] to pay competitive wages immigration constraints = hard to hire #lrnchat
09:06:23 pm ToddAHoffman: @billcush I sure hope so- I just think the educational environment is more supportive of collaboration #lrnchat
09:06:26 pm Bloomfire: RT @gminks: Where I work, IDs are SMEs #lrnchat (Interesting…how so?)
09:06:29 pm seanbengry: Q1) back to core vs industry-job comp:  fundamentals of molecular biology in academia, how to use the new microscope in corp #lrnchat
09:06:36 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) In academia – ISD staff hidden in library basement or behind student computer center (from my experience). #lrnchat
09:06:41 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) IMO academia as a place where collaboration is difficult, much more tension over intellectual property & propriety. #lrnchat
09:06:42 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) Who are SMEs in higher-ed? Profs? how are they to work with? #lrnchat
09:06:45 pm urbie: Q#1 higher-ed can be more stratified & layered.. phd = union card #lrnchat
09:06:48 pm JaneBozarth: Q2 should be along in a minute… #lrnchat
09:06:57 pm britz: @ThomasStone Great! CNY-ASTD is absorbing the southern tier chapter.  we’d love to support them and could use assistance #lrnchat
09:07:05 pm jwillensky: @kelly_smith01 As an external, often find content is pre-selected for corporate. Work is in the translaton. You? #lrnchat
09:07:05 pm Dave_Ferguson: @kelly_smith01 You have basements? #lrnchat
09:07:22 pm Bloomfire: @smitty1966 See that you’re from Toronto. I lived there for 7 years. Great place! #lrnchat
09:07:27 pm sahana2802: Corp trng is more focused on smaller groups with specific needs; academia is not so individual focused but is more syllabus driven #lrnchat
09:07:31 pm profgesser: @ThomasStone @bloomfire ..and I’m occupied with three kids under 10..lol, the topic seemed more institutional this week too #lrnchat
09:07:32 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) In highered, the expert is also the faculty, where in corporate you have an SME working w/ID. #lrnchat
09:07:38 pm billcush: And In Corp..IDers are often SMEs. RT @Bloomfire: RT @gminks: Where I work, IDs are SMEs #lrnchat (Interesting…how so?)
09:07:47 pm lrnchat: Q2) What do corporate and academic ID each do uniquely well and could learn from the other? #lrnchat
09:07:54 pm Tim_M_Martin: but how does it work… really? RT @Dave_Ferguson: Do corp designers & subject-matter experts collaborate? #lrnchat
09:07:55 pm joe_deegan: Q1) Much more synchronous design in academia #lrnchat
09:07:59 pm kasey428: RT @jwillensky: @kelly_smith01 As an external, often find content is pre-selected for corporate. Work is in the translaton. You? #lrnchat
09:07:59 pm kasey428: RT @jwillensky: @kelly_smith01 As an external, often find content is pre-selected for corporate. Work is in the translaton. You? #lrnchat
09:08:18 pm tigerlily300: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What do corporate and academic ID each do uniquely well and could learn from the other? #lrnchat
09:08:19 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What do corporate and academic ID each do uniquely well and could learn from the other? #lrnchat
09:08:20 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What do corporate and academic ID each do uniquely well and could learn from the other? #lrnchat
09:08:28 pm reward75: @Bloomfire: RT @gminks: Where I work, IDs are SMEs #lrnchat (Interesting…how so?) <By being an expert first, then learning ID #lrnchat
09:08:42 pm jsuzcampos: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What do corporate and academic ID each do uniquely well and could learn from the other? #lrnchat
09:08:47 pm sahana2802: @jkunrein At least that’s how traditional syllabus design happens in India.🙂 #lrnchat. pre-defined syllabus for specific levels.Total PUSH
09:08:50 pm jkunrein: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What do corporate and academic ID each do uniquely well and could learn from the other? #lrnchat
09:08:56 pm kasey428: oops, double whammy, what’s up w/Tweetchat? #lrnchat
09:08:56 pm Bloomfire: @profgesser Wow! I’m having a hard enough time already. Tricky staying on top of things. #lrnchat
09:08:58 pm nancyrubin: #lrnchat Q2) Corp IDs tend to be more skilled at rapid development
09:09:00 pm jwillensky: @jsuzcampos Ed Tech dept. where I was — total bloodbath among profs. Worse than any corporate mess I’ve seen. #lrnchat
09:09:01 pm sahana2802: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What do corporate and academic ID each do uniquely well and could learn from the other? #lrnchat
09:09:13 pm Dave_Ferguson: @Tim_M_Martin W/ my favorite clients, pretty well. They do lots of interdiscip. projs & so tend to accept/value others’ expertise #lrnchat
09:09:24 pm smitty1966: @Bloomfire cheers. Toronto is great. Will be chaotic this summer with G20 in town. #lrnchat
09:09:33 pm JaneBozarth: I snitch this as answer to Q2, too! RT @joe_deegan: Q1) Much more synchronous design in academia #lrnchat
09:09:34 pm seanbengry: Q2) A good professor and a good SME does not equal good at instructional design #lrnchat
09:09:35 pm RayJimenez: Q2) each brings different perspective, can only add value to each other #lrnchat
09:09:45 pm ChristyATucker: Q2) Academic ID does better at planning collaboration and creating learning communities #lrnchat
09:09:54 pm Bloomfire: RT @nancyrubin:  #lrnchat Q2) Corp IDs tend to be more skilled at rapid development (True that!)
09:10:07 pm billcush: Q2) I would think Academic IDers could learn from Corp ID…how to do it efficiently. #lrnchat
09:10:09 pm jsuzcampos: RT @jwillensky Ed Tech dept. where I was, total bloodbath among profs. Worse than any corporate mess<I’ve worked there too #lrnchat
09:10:11 pm minutebio: Q2) Corp ID has more focus and experience in asynchronous WBT. And more exp w needs analysis. #lrnchat
09:10:15 pm ChristyATucker: RT @nancyrubin: #lrnchat Q2) Corp IDs tend to be more skilled at rapid development
09:10:19 pm JustStormy: amen to this: RT @seanbengry: Q2) A good professor and a good SME does not equal good at instructional design #lrnchat
09:10:24 pm Bloomfire: @smitty1966 I love the chaos #lrnchat
09:10:27 pm kasey428: Academia probably does a better job of front-end analysis; is the course, subject needed? Corporations have compliance training.UGH #lrnchat
09:10:30 pm urbie: Q#1 corp = production mentality; academia = i’s dotted & t’s crossed; much room for collab. & sharing if you can get provost okay #lrnchat
09:10:45 pm gminks: not all, I blogged abt this RT @ChristyATucker: Q2) Academic ID does better at planning collaboration & creating lrning communities #lrnchat
09:10:51 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) Corp ID chunk lots of material into small self-contained courses #lrnchat
09:10:52 pm jkunrein: Q2) from what I’ve seen MOST of the time, academic environments provide more time for design/development. #lrnchat
09:10:57 pm billcush: Q2) And Corp IDers could learn from Academic IDers…take the right amount of process time to get it right. #lrnchat Less cutting corners
09:11:11 pm britz: Q2) in my experience the access to SME’s in Academic  environment much, MUCH easier #lrnchat
09:11:14 pm Tim_M_Martin: need case study of something better than just replicating classroom badly RT @joe_deegan: Q1)  synchronous /academia #lrnchat
09:11:25 pm Dave_Ferguson: Eventually, corp/org training/learning has to (ought to) connect with biz/org results. Conex in academia more tenuous. #lrnchat
09:11:32 pm JustStormy: Q2) corporate is better at focus and getting it done…academia wants to make sure it sticks…i think they should blend efforts #lrnchat
09:11:40 pm sahana2802: Q2: Corporate IDs are better at identifying performance gaps; academia will be better at designing collaboration into the courses. #lrnchat
09:11:46 pm nancyrubin: #lrnchat Great post on ID – Tom Kuhlmann – What Everybody Ought to Know About Instructional Design – http://ow.ly/1KT80
09:11:48 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) Academia could learn something about application, performance of tasks, accomplishment of task, problem solving #lrnchat
09:11:50 pm joe_deegan: RT @minutebio: Q2) Corp ID has more focus and experience in asynchronous WBT. And more exp w needs analysis. #lrnchat
09:11:52 pm kasey428: Rapid prototyping more frequent in corp or gov setting. Higher-ed, no. #lrnchat
09:11:59 pm Dave_Ferguson: @kasey428 I’ll see your compliance training and raise you requirements for major & for graduation. #lrnchat
09:12:00 pm urbie: @jkunrein agree, but the designs are much more granular & time consuming; plus add-in train-the-instructor time at the end #lrnchat
09:12:14 pm billcush: How? RT @ChristyATucker: Q2) Academic ID does better at planning collaboration and creating learning communities #lrnchat
09:12:15 pm RayJimenez: Q2) may be the relax mood in academia allows corp rapid developers to reflect deeper than just rush #lrnchat
09:12:20 pm bschlenker: @bloomfire on and off tonight – busy evening filled with family stuff – just lurking😉 #lrnchat
09:12:29 pm kelly_smith01: RT @TriciaRansom: Q2) Corp ID chunk lots of material into small self-contained courses #lrnchat
09:12:31 pm jsuzcampos: Q2) I’ve worked in highered for a long time, and many have never heard the term: instructional design #lrnchat
09:12:31 pm kasey428: RT @Dave_Ferguson: …corp/org training/learning has to (ought to) connect with biz/org results. Conex in academia more tenuous. #lrnchat
09:12:34 pm tigerlily300: Q2) I think academic IDs are better creating curricula rather than one-off solutions #lrnchat
09:12:47 pm ChristyATucker: Q2) Corporate ID (sometimes) does better at tying learning to skills and not just learning “because we’ve always done it that way” #lrnchat
09:12:47 pm JaneBozarth: @Tim_M_Martin I am that case study. #lrnchat
09:12:54 pm urbie: @kasey428 don’t get me started on gov’t.. rapid prototyping is SLOW [imho].. way too much Q/A and documentation #lrnchat
09:12:55 pm jwillensky: Q2) Academic — more complete refinement of process; Corporate — efficiency-driven alterations to process.  #lrnchat
09:12:57 pm Tim_M_Martin: Yes but their usually academics not real SMEs. Creating CLE is very different with a Law prof than a Judge  @britz: Q2) #lrnchat
09:13:35 pm hjarche: @kasey428 but without compliance training we might not have an industry ;)  what would people do? #lrnchat
09:13:41 pm ToddAHoffman: Q2) #lrnchat How might educators learn from corp to increase efficiency?
09:13:43 pm RayJimenez: Q2) many corp developers are tactical which is gud, but lack theory-based #lrnchat
09:13:49 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) Although not done enough in corp, – academia could move to more PULL learning. #lrnchat
09:13:49 pm jsuzcampos: Q2) Corporate IDs develop solutions. Academic IDs develop curriculum. #lrnchat
09:13:50 pm billcush: How? Would love to change this in CorpID RT @ToddAHoffman just think the edu environment is more supportive of collaboration #lrnchat
09:13:54 pm kasey428: @jsuzcampos Strange isn’t it? HIgher-ed is where I got my masters in instructional design. #lrnchat
09:14:02 pm espnguyen: (#lrnchat drive by) I just had a FANTASTIC dinner/discussion w/ @dwilkinsnh. So great to meet and talk in person. Phenomenal mind.
09:14:09 pm jwillensky: @jsuzcampos Srsly. Saw a fine young prof quit to go work for AZ dept. of transportation. #lrnchat
09:14:13 pm sahana2802: RT @jsuzcampos: Q2) Corporate IDs develop solutions. Academic IDs develop curriculum. #lrnchat
09:14:15 pm seanbengry: Q2) Both understand motivation key to learner retention, student paying $60,000, professional trying to make $60,000  #lrnchat
09:14:19 pm Tim_M_Martin: They would be my favorite clients too!!!!   @Dave_Ferguson: #lrnchat
09:14:21 pm kasey428: @hjarche true.  Compliance training keeps bread on my table. #lrnchat
09:14:23 pm Bloomfire: RT @jsuzcampos: Q2) I’ve worked in highered for a long time, and many have never heard the term: instructional design #lrnchat (So true)
09:14:27 pm billcush: RT @urbie: Q#1 corp = production mentality; academia = i’s dotted & t’s crossed; much room for collab. & sharing… #lrnchat
09:14:35 pm JaneBozarth: @Tim_M_Martin Training in how to use the sync product too focused on technology, not on good design. #lrnchat
09:14:36 pm RayJimenez: Q2) understanding of theory is key to make progressive change in approach #lrnchat
09:14:50 pm Tim_M_Martin: do you come in a PDF? @JaneBozarth  #lrnchat
09:14:53 pm jsuzcampos: RT @kasey428 Strange isn’t it? HIghered is where I got my MA in instructional design.<<Highered is where I “teach” ISD! #lrnchat
09:14:58 pm Dave_Ferguson: @kasey428 Don’t worry. W/in 5 years you’ll be able to get a TRADEMARKED master’s degree from MegaLearn, Inc. #lrnchat
09:15:03 pm Bloomfire: RT @jsuzcampos: Q2) Corporate IDs develop solutions. Academic IDs develop curriculum. #lrnchat (You’re all over this. I agree 100%)
09:15:07 pm JaneBozarth: RT @ hjarche @kasey428 but without compliance training we might not have an industry😉 what would people do? #lrnchat
09:15:09 pm gminks: too tired to participate – see yall next time! #lrnchat
09:15:11 pm ChristyATucker: Q2) Academic ID is generally better at project-based learning and feedback from another human being #lrnchat
09:15:18 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) Got M.A. in TRDV/HPI. I wanted courses on the doing/application, kept getting courses on the theory. Drove me batty! #lrnchat
09:15:27 pm Tim_M_Martin: Thats my point RT @JaneBozarth: @Tim_M_Martin focused on technology, not on good design. #lrnchat
09:15:27 pm hjarche: @kasey428 it keeps bread on many tables http://is.gd/c7Hcm #lrnchat
09:15:48 pm Bloomfire: RT @Tim_M_Martin: do you come in a PDF? @JaneBozarth  #lrnchat (Hahaha!)
09:15:48 pm kelly_smith01: @kasey428 Yes. There is much pre-selection in corp. (I have done many many times.) but not as far in advance (in time) as academia. #lrnchat
09:15:51 pm urbie: many more n deeper shared resources in [public] higher-ed.. check out  http://www.texasvirtualschool.org/ #lrnchat
09:15:52 pm smitty1966: Anyone do any Bank training?governance , compliance, risk, security. Closed design, manditory participation, rinse and repeat. #lrnchat
09:16:06 pm billcush: We actually had an ID project called Chunky Monkey. RT @TriciaRansom: Q2) Corp ID chunks material into small self-contained courses #lrnchat
09:16:10 pm Bloomfire: RT @gminks: too tired to participate – see yall next time! #lrnchat (We’ll miss you!)
09:16:25 pm ChristyATucker: @gminks No, academic isn’t always good at planning collaboration. I’ve had good experiences though. #lrnchat
09:16:32 pm tigerlily300: Q2) Corp. IDs focus more on practical application, which I know what lacking in several of my academic classes.  #lrnchat
09:16:35 pm TriciaRansom: Chunky Monkey — LOVE that title! #lrnchat
09:16:39 pm billcush: RT @JustStormy: Q2) corp better at getting it done…academia wants to make sure it sticks…i think they should blend efforts #lrnchat
09:16:39 pm nancyrubin: #lrnchat – Til next week – watching end of Marlins / Mets game – looking for husband and son at game!
09:16:42 pm urbie: @smitty1966 used to work with the stagecoach bank: not much room for creativity there. cheap #lrnchat
09:16:57 pm JaneBozarth: @Tim_M_Martin See also @insynctraining  Better sync design is their specialty #lrnchat
09:17:02 pm kasey428: RT @tigerlily300: Q2) Corp. IDs focus more on practical application, which I know what lacking in several of my academic classes.  #lrnchat
09:17:06 pm TriciaRansom: @Billcush RT @TriciaRansom: Chunky Monkey — LOVE that title! #lrnchat
09:17:06 pm Dave_Ferguson: There’s an embedded compliance industry and its concomitant mindset. Not nearly so durable as the academic one.
#lrnchat
09:17:25 pm sahana2802: RT @ChristyATucker: @gminks No, academic isn’t always good at planning collaboration. I’ve had good experiences though. #lrnchat
09:17:36 pm reward75: @TriciaRansom Funny, in my Instruc. Tech program, I got two classes of theory and all the rest application #lrnchat
09:17:44 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) Compliance training of corp. is the Freshman/Sophomore/100 level courses of academia. #lrnchat
09:17:50 pm JaneBozarth: @Tim_M_Martin Help is available; they have to be open to it. #lrnchat
09:17:53 pm jwillensky: @nancyrubin I’m watching it, too (Mets fan). Should be easy — only 500 people in the seats in FL🙂 #lrnchat
09:17:54 pm Bloomfire: RT @TriciaRansom: @Billcush RT @TriciaRansom: Chunky Monkey — LOVE that title! #lrnchat (Is it like Chubby Bunny?)
09:18:10 pm jsuzcampos: Be right back .. gotta check score of #Celtics game and put my boys to bed! #lrnchat
09:18:17 pm smitty1966: @urbie agreed, always working in a box. Definately mandate by org. Goals. #lrnchat
09:18:28 pm jwillensky: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Compliance training of corp. is the Freshman/Sophomore/100 level courses of academia. #lrnchat
09:18:32 pm Tim_M_Martin: AGREED… I just don’t think it’s happening yet, knowing how is not doing.  @JaneBozarth:  @insynctraining  #lrnchat
09:18:40 pm kasey428: Gosh it’s good to be back..I have been away too long… #lrnchat
09:18:51 pm urbie: a big determinant of ID/process quality depends on the type of institution: private or public; any U of P ID’ers out there? #lrnchat
09:19:08 pm Bloomfire: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Compliance training of corp. is the 100-lvl courses of academia. #lrnchat (But 100-lvl is sometimes meant to inspire)
09:19:12 pm reward75: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Compliance training of corp. is the Freshman/Sophomore/100 level courses of academia. #lrnchat
09:19:31 pm Dave_Ferguson: @kelly_smith01 Corp. compliance is like required homeowner / auto / liability insurance. Compliance ipso facto not a choice. #lrnchat
09:19:41 pm RayJimenez: @kasey428 #lrnchat True — ofcourse depending on the entity
09:20:06 pm tigerlily300: failing multitasking tonight so will have to catch up on the transcript. g’night everyone #lrnchat
09:20:15 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) But don’t all of us try to design to the best of our ability interactive, interesting, useful courses? #lrnchat
09:20:25 pm Tim_M_Martin: Exactly… academia is not a bastion of rapid change   RT @JaneBozarth: they have to be open to it. #lrnchat
09:20:29 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) Notice I said *best of our ability*… #lrnchat
09:20:50 pm shiftnext: Didn’t realize what I’ve been missing. Is conversation always this active? #lrnchat
09:20:56 pm kasey428: @kelly_smith01 Some corps never require Jr or Sr level of their employees. #lrnchat
09:21:11 pm kellygarber: Q2) Academic – Assessments created first. #lrnchat
09:21:15 pm gminks: we do tech trng, expected to be SME on our subject, and taught ID skills #lrnchat (k thats it for real bye!)
09:21:18 pm billcush: Click Here to Confirm That You Have Completed This Training RT @smitty1966: Anyone do any Bank training? #lrnchat
09:21:18 pm JaneBozarth: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Compliance training of corp. is the Freshman/Sophomore/100 level courses of academia. #lrnchat
09:21:25 pm JaneBozarth: @Tim_M_Martin Not really talking about ‘academia” now. I’m talking about individual trainers/teachers who want to be better at it. #lrnchat
09:21:26 pm Tim_M_Martin: I’m colored by my experience at University of Chicago and working in Legal Ed   @JaneBozarth  #lrnchat
09:21:28 pm RayJimenez: @Tim_M_Martin #lrnchat But deeper thought can trigger change — academics provide
09:21:40 pm TriciaRansom: @gminks you know you can’t leave us! #lrnchat
09:21:40 pm urbie: @TriciaRansom i don’t think so: there’s always constraints: in Cali for example some higher-ed’s have cut pro salaries 25% #lrnchat
09:21:53 pm Dave_Ferguson: @Tim_M_Martin “Academia not a bastion of rapid change.”  I’m picturing the CEO in doctoral duds… #lrnchat
09:21:54 pm ChristyATucker: @billcush One learning community example from my previous higher ed job: http://bit.ly/9l22NY #lrnchat
09:21:57 pm ThomasStone: actually, tonight is kinda light! RT @shiftnext: Didn’t realize what I’ve been missing. Is conversation always this active? #lrnchat
09:21:57 pm jwillensky: @shiftnext Yup! #lrnchat
09:22:23 pm Tim_M_Martin: We know different academics  RT @RayJimenez: @Tim_M_Martin #lrnchat But deeper thought can trigger change
09:22:30 pm JaneBozarth: @RayJimenez Good evening, sir. Good to see you here. #lrnchat
09:22:40 pm kasey428: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @Tim_M_Martin “Academia not a bastion of rapid change.”  Im picturing the CEO in doctoral duds… #lrnchat
09:22:46 pm RayJimenez: Q2) great case is when academic is also in corporate world.. #lrnchat
09:23:06 pm ChristyATucker: @billcush In general, in online higher ed I saw more focus on group work, forums, wikis, plus planned space for socializing #lrnchat
09:23:11 pm JaneBozarth: @Dave_Ferguson Hey! I have doctoral duds! #lrnchat
09:23:25 pm billcush: Which is the cart? Which is the horse? RT @kellygarber: Q2) Academic – Assessments created first. #lrnchat
09:23:32 pm reward75: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @Tim_M_Martin “Academia not a bastion of rapid change.”  Im picturing the CEO in doctoral duds… #lrnchat
09:23:33 pm Dave_Ferguson: @billcush Yep, done banks. Pharma. Mandatory fed dept/agency stuff.  Lotsa different trees, but it’s all forest. #lrnchat
09:23:37 pm Bloomfire: #lrnchat Corp trainers can get fired, but professors with tenure are much harder to oust. Can deeply influence quality.
09:23:53 pm kelly_smith01: @kasey428 Some corps don’t “allow” learner/employee to advance. Keep them at Fresh/Soph level or abandon them in a number of ways. #lrnchat
09:23:54 pm JaneBozarth: @Dave_Ferguson …Doctoral duds that cost $25…and 9 1/2 years of my life… #lrnchat
09:24:09 pm RayJimenez: @JaneBozarth Good evening mam. glad to be here. #lrnchat
09:24:22 pm Dave_Ferguson: @billcush Before cart or horse: cargo, destination, and purpose. #lrnchat
09:24:34 pm TriciaRansom: Yep RT @Bloomfire:Corp trainers can get fired, but professors with tenure are much harder to oust. Can deeply influence quality. #lrnchat
09:24:43 pm Tim_M_Martin: Academia does not need to replicate corp change  @Dave_Ferguson: @Tim_M_Martin “Academia not a bastion of rapid change.” #lrnchat
09:24:45 pm billcush: @ChristyATucker Cool. You’d think it would be fairly easy to do in Corp ID. Project/Work teams are high collab…why not learners? #lrnchat
09:24:52 pm britz: RT @RayJimenez: Q2) great case is when academic is also in corporate world.. #lrnchat / i worked for Pearson K-12 elearning …I hear ya
09:25:11 pm Dave_Ferguson: No one on a tenure track is permitted to grumble about gummint bureaucrats. #lrnchat
09:25:12 pm seanbengry: @Bloomfire similarly, SMEs rarely get fired #lrnchat
09:25:12 pm RayJimenez: Q2) I start with mix academic + corp, then reflect ideas then tweak, this is key to innovation #lrnchat
09:25:19 pm ChristyATucker: @RayJimenez Yes, most of my career has been in the for-profit education world. Aspects of both areas. #lrnchat
09:25:37 pm Tim_M_Martin: But the questions are different. Corp is not all about money and academia is not all about transcripts  @Dave_Ferguson  #lrnchat
09:25:40 pm kellygarber: @billcush yes …it is very interesting  to build content from assessment. The academic equivalent to corporate compliance. #lrnchat
09:25:41 pm reward75: RT @Bloomfire: Corp trainers get fired, professors w tenure are hard to oust. Can influence quality. <tru teaching longer <> better #lrnchat
09:25:56 pm kasey428: Sexual harassment 101, Ethics in the Workplace 115, Risk Management 123…all engaging corp learning. Check the box. #lrnchat
09:25:57 pm Bloomfire: @TriciaRansom #lrnchat With tenure, it’s easy to be complacent. Without tenure, there’s more of a drive for creativity & innovation.
09:25:59 pm dwilkinsnh: @espnguyen Back at you Steve.  Great to meet and connect live.  Should be part of every social netwoking model… : ) #lrnchat
09:26:00 pm Dave_Ferguson: @seanbengry SMEs rarely fired, possibly because in their day jobs they product worthwhile results. #lrnchat
09:26:20 pm RayJimenez: @JaneBozarth Sickness still persists “CONTROL-ITIS” #lrnchat
09:26:25 pm lmockford: Great topic tonight. Just had 2 days of ID work with 25 faculty from my college. Collaborative and interactive were the goals #lrnchat
09:26:25 pm ChristyATucker: @billcush Absolutely. Collaborative learning is closer to real world skills. We should be doing it more in corp world. #lrnchat
09:26:25 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) Academia learners expected to advance via learning. Corp expected to advance via network/production/revenue. Where’s learning? #lrnchat
09:26:57 pm urbie: blame the economy.. tenure on the wane..  http://bit.ly/bofdnn #lrnchat
09:27:08 pm Tim_M_Martin: Its logical to think that folks drawn to the security of academia are not all about change  @Dave_Ferguson  #lrnchat
09:27:12 pm billcush: Bingo! RT @Dave_Ferguson: @billcush Before cart or horse: cargo, destination, and purpose. #lrnchat
09:27:25 pm RayJimenez: @dwilkinsnh Great to save Hi! Dave. #lrnchat
09:27:46 pm JaneBozarth: RT @ Tim_M_Martin

Its logical to think that folks drawn to the security of academia are not all about change @Dave_Ferguson #lrnchat
09:27:48 pm TriciaRansom: Meant that academia by name is focused on learning. Corp not, so our design is more sneaky…focused on production not knowledge #lrnchat
09:27:56 pm RayJimenez: By the way.. Training Magazine is ALIVE.. w/ new owners.. #lrnchat
09:28:01 pm Dave_Ferguson: @tim_m_martin More than anything, tho’, a corp IS about money (no profit > no shareholders > no corp).  Not only, but sine qua non. #lrnchat
09:28:27 pm seanbengry: acad. professor = corporate SME+ID/Trainer, professor is expected to be a good SME first, good teacher second  #lrnchat
09:28:28 pm Tim_M_Martin: Tenure will disappear long before the desire for it does.  @urbie: blame the economy.. tenure on the wane..  #lrnchat
09:28:38 pm hzl0206: greetings all, new and getting the hang of it – IDer in “Walking Tall” country #lrnchat
09:28:40 pm JaneBozarth: Woo hoo!!  RT @RayJimenez  By the way.. Training Magazine is ALIVE.. w/ new owners.. #lrnchat
09:28:49 pm reward75: @seanbengry To get rid of SME: create KM sys, suck knldg from SME, fire SME, hire younger cheaper worker #lrnchat
09:28:50 pm lrnchat: Q3) What could both corporate and academic ID still improve on? #lrnchat
09:29:08 pm michelle300: RT @JaneBozarth: Woo hoo!!  RT @RayJimenez  By the way.. Training Magazine is ALIVE.. w/ new owners.. #lrnchat
09:29:08 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What could both corporate and academic ID still improve on? #lrnchat
09:29:18 pm urbie: @Tim_M_Martin except that the boomers are exiting.. how secure is academia when their replacement is a 26 yo phd’er #lrnchat
09:29:21 pm billcush: @kellygarber Are LOs (drink?) written, then assessment, then instruction? #lrnchat
09:29:24 pm kellygarber: RT @TriciaRansom: ..academia by name is focused on lrning. Corp not, our design is more sneaky..focused on production not knowledge #lrnchat
09:29:27 pm jwillensky: Good night, #lrnchat. Dinner engagement. Thanks for great convo!
09:29:32 pm jkunrein: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What could both corporate and academic ID still improve on? #lrnchat
09:29:33 pm sahana2802: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What could both corporate and academic ID still improve on? #lrnchat
09:29:38 pm ThomasStone: really? did I miss something or is that breaking enws? RT @RayJimenez: By the way.. Training Magazine is ALIVE.. w/ new owners.. #lrnchat
09:29:44 pm JaneBozarth: RT @ lrnchat  Q3) What could both corporate and academic ID still improve on? #lrnchat
09:29:48 pm Bloomfire: RT @seanbengry: professor is expected to be a good SME 1st, gd teacher 2nd #lrnchat (Not always, a prof might just need an adv. degree)
09:29:59 pm kelly_smith01: @JaneBozarth Yes. ” ‘allow’ emps to access all the courses available ” As a consultant my “bench” time was frustrated by that. #lrnchat
09:30:00 pm Tim_M_Martin: Yes but we seldom have the luxury of a direct line from training to $  @Dave_Ferguson: (no profit ; no shareholders ; no corp).  #lrnchat
09:30:08 pm dwilkinsnh: RT @RayJimenez: By the way.. Training Magazine is ALIVE.. w/ new owners.. #lrnchat  << great news!
09:30:10 pm ChristyATucker: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What could both corporate and academic ID still improve on? #lrnchat
09:30:11 pm jsuzcampos: Q3) Figuring out how to get invited to the table before the meal is served #lrnchat
09:30:13 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What could both corporate and academic ID still improve on? #lrnchat
09:30:17 pm Bloomfire: RT @hzl0206: greetings all, new and getting the hang of it – IDer in “Walking Tall” country #lrnchat (Welcome!!)
09:30:21 pm rjpanetti: RT @billcush: Click Here to Confirm That You Have Completed This Training<<.Seen this many times..its CYA in case of litigation.. #lrnchat
09:30:33 pm seanbengry: @reward75 nice… I’ll remember that when we hire a new (younger, vampire) ID  #lrnchat
09:30:34 pm jkunrein: um wow. RT @urbie: @Tim_M_Martin except that the boomers are exiting.. how secure is academia when their replacement = a 26yo phder #lrnchat
09:30:44 pm urbie: Q#3 corp/academia IDs can both improve on parking: getting more done with less of every thing, including effort [stretched thin] #lrnchat
09:30:51 pm Bloomfire: RT @jwillensky: Good night, #lrnchat. Dinner engagement. Thanks for great convo! (Tata, enjoy)
09:30:53 pm RayJimenez: Q3) Constant breakthrough experiments n research .. #lrnchat
09:30:57 pm billcush: Q3) Academic/Corp ID: Don’t get so caught up in the process. More than one way to skin a ……. #lrnchat
09:31:06 pm ChristyATucker: Q3) Both corp & academic ID could do more to have relevant, active learning #lrnchat
09:31:23 pm seanbengry: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What could both corporate and academic ID still improve on? #lrnchat
09:31:25 pm sahana2802: RT @dwilkinsnh: RT @RayJimenez: By the way.. Training Magazine is ALIVE.. w/ new owners.. #lrnchat  << great news!
09:31:45 pm ChristyATucker: Q3) More user-generated content and peer support would benefit both corporate and academic ID #lrnchat
09:31:46 pm jsuzcampos: Q3) Figuring out how to help others understand what we do #lrnchat
09:31:48 pm jkunrein: RT @ChristyATucker: Q3) Both corp & academic ID could do more to have relevant, active learning #lrnchat
09:32:00 pm dwilkinsnh: Q3) Academic ID could focus more on real world application & corporate could focus more on collab and team learning #lrnchat
09:32:04 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) Be open to new ways of doing things/technologies/theories. Remember “it can always be better” #lrnchat
09:32:08 pm RayJimenez: Q3) Find an alternate to ID or ask different questions on ID .,, scary .. #lrnchat
09:32:24 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) Corporate  IDs have a need to read/study research on learning etc. Not continue to do the same way as before.  #lrnchat
09:32:36 pm Dave_Ferguson: Q3: both could increase efforts to turn audiences into learners. Build higher-order skills. Get out of semester / exposure hours. #lrnchat
09:32:45 pm reward75: cutting out early, need to put finishing touches on project presentation 4 tmr. 10 days till graduation🙂 #lrnchat
09:32:45 pm sahana2802: Corps training cld insist on more collaboration tools being built into their courses. #lrnchat
09:32:49 pm Tim_M_Martin: Yep…. but ask a young academic what motivates them and most will say job security… not  bad but not a indicator of change @urbie  #lrnchat
09:32:50 pm ChristyATucker: Q3) Academic and corporate ID could both do a better job listening to and learning from each other #lrnchat
09:32:54 pm dwilkinsnh: Q3)  Would love to see more focus in corp world around team performance rather than individual performance and design accordingly  #lrnchat
09:33:11 pm reward75: G’nite everyone! #lrnchat
09:33:22 pm Bloomfire: RT @reward75: cutting out early, need to put finishing touches on project presentation 4 tmr. 10 days till graduation #lrnchat (Good luck!)
09:33:37 pm Tim_M_Martin: RT @billcush: Q3) Academic/Corp ID: Don’t get so caught up in the process. More than one way to skin a ……. #lrnchat
09:33:48 pm hzl0206: Q3 getting out of the way of lrnrs, while still maintaining some meaningful framework, prhaps #lrnchat
09:33:51 pm billcush: Yes! RT @ChristyATucker: Q3) More user-generated content and peer support would benefit both corporate and academic ID #lrnchat
09:33:57 pm RayJimenez: @ThomasStone new owner TMAG from old owner — small world “Lakewood Media Group” #lrnchat
09:33:58 pm sahana2802: RT @dwilkinsnh: Q3)  Would love to see more focus in corp world around team performance rather than individual performance and design accordingly  #lrnchat
09:34:02 pm Dave_Ferguson: Corp leadership needs to understand that bundle of courses doesn’t equal skill (or competence). Can’t say for academia; not there. #lrnchat
09:34:12 pm kellygarber: @billcush at times, assessment exists first, then LO (drink), then instruction. Mostly – LO (drink), assessment, instruction.  #lrnchat
09:34:19 pm TriciaRansom: Gotta go and clean the house for graduation 2morrow. Next week! Tricia in Chicago #lrnchat
09:34:20 pm seanbengry: Q3) Put the agenda aside, true instructional design begins with the learner  #lrnchat
09:34:32 pm jsuzcampos: Q3) Break the mold. Push the boundaries of the “classroom”, and interrogate “What learning looks like.” #lrnchat
09:34:35 pm ToddAHoffman: @dwilkinsnh Sounds great!  Would you see a lot of resistance in corp to collaboration? #lrnchat
09:34:35 pm dwilkinsnh: @sahana2802 Check out Composica – built in blogs, ratings, discussions *inside* courses — very cool and all SaaS based… #lrnchat
09:35:02 pm JustStormy: Q3 #lrnchat Overall communication should be improved, merging teams, coming together to ultimately achieve an meaningful learning experience
09:35:08 pm urbie: @TriciaRansom except that the chronicle says some schools [junior colleges for ex] are way short of money next year #lrnchat
09:35:09 pm RayJimenez: Q3) Academic scientist can do future thinking…. corp tend near sited.. can co-study #lrnchat
09:35:14 pm JaneBozarth: Good news! RT @ RayJimenez  Training Mag again under ownership of Lakewood Media Group” #lrnchat
09:35:14 pm billcush: Yet…corps great at innovation. RT @kelly_smith01: Q3) CorpIDs have need to study..Not continue to do the same way as before.  #lrnchat
09:35:27 pm Bloomfire: RT @TriciaRansom: Gotta go and clean the house for graduation 2morrow. Next week! Tricia in Chicago #lrnchat (See you in Chicago!)
09:35:52 pm ThomasStone: @RayJimenez Thanks Ray… do you know if only the magazine will continue, or the events too? #lrnchat
09:36:09 pm jsuzcampos: Q3) IDs need to be on the bleeding edge of innovation to transform learning, not percieved as the dept where learning goes to die. #lrnchat
09:36:10 pm jkunrein: heh… i didn’t put #lrnchat tags on when tweetchat was down. ah iz smart. #lrnchat
09:36:27 pm urbie: Q#3.. both [academia and corp] IDs should strive to make learning experience more personal and social – read iPad on the move #lrnchat
09:36:34 pm dwilkinsnh: @ToddAHoffman I don’t think so, reality is that this is how work is done; just not sure we know how to design training that way #lrnchat
09:36:36 pm RayJimenez: Q3) Half my soul/heart is corp and academia – I could not think otherwise. #lrnchat
09:36:36 pm wilko64: RT @seanbengry: Q3) Put the agenda aside, true instructional design begins with the learner  #lrnchat
09:36:46 pm Tim_M_Martin: this is a problem we made RT @Dave_Ferguson: Corp leadership needs to understand  bundle of courses doesn’t equal skill  #lrnchat
09:36:54 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) Corporate needs to look at more compact learning units delivered at the time of need or choice of learner.  #lrnchat
09:36:55 pm TriciaRansom: @Bloomfire See you there! #lrnchat
09:37:08 pm kellygarber: Q3) both could improve on instruction driven by what a learner will need to do #lrnchat
09:37:14 pm sahana2802: @dwilkinsnh Read about it in your article. Will check it out today. Thank you. #lrnchat
09:37:19 pm JustStormy: Q3-what about tapping resources available through instructional support…too often we are just seen as fluff…helloooo I CAN help #lrnchat
09:37:35 pm TriciaRansom: ?? RT @urbie: @TriciaRansom except that the chronicle says some schools are way short of money next year #lrnchat
09:37:49 pm sahana2802: RT @ChristyATucker: Q3) Academic and corporate ID could both do a better job listening to and learning from each other #lrnchat
09:37:56 pm kasey428: @TriciaRansom Corp isn’t about learning. It is about $$$$$. Gov’t is about mission. #lrnchat
09:37:58 pm urbie: she’s [http://janetclarey.com/] got the right idea about ID pace and future #lrnchat
09:37:58 pm Dave_Ferguson: @Tim_M_Martin Maybe; also Kool-Aid that many execs imbibe freely. Reluctant at times to find no simple answer to complex stuff. #lrnchat
09:38:06 pm kelly_smith01: RT @jsuzcampos: Q3) IDs need to be on the bleeding edge of innovation to transform learning, (part 1). #lrnchat
09:38:23 pm RayJimenez: @ThomasStone No details, but all is back.. specially SMM.. Conference .. my guess #lrnchat
09:38:26 pm JustStormy: RT@jsuzcampos: IDs need 2B on bleeding edge of innovation 2 transform learning-not percieved as  dept where learning goes 2 die. #lrnchat
09:38:28 pm readtoday: #lrnchat
09:38:33 pm jkunrein: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @jsuzcampos: Q3) IDs need to be on the bleeding edge of innovation to transform learning, (part 1). #lrnchat
09:38:33 pm kelly_smith01: RT @jsuzcampos: Q3)not percieved as the dept where learning goes to die. (part 2) #lrnchat
09:38:37 pm Dave_Ferguson: @kasey428 Gov’t is about mission, but soon will mainly be about juggling debt. #lrnchat
09:38:52 pm dwilkinsnh: @ToddAHoffman I don’t think orgs will resist; it’s how work is done, not sure we know how to design it though #lrnchat
09:39:14 pm ChristyATucker: Q3) Both corporate and academic ID could do better at supporting self-directed learning, helping people learn to learn #lrnchat
09:39:21 pm billcush: Corp learning as TIVO. RT @kelly_smith01: Q3) Corp needs to look at more compact learning delivered at time/choice of learner. #lrnchat
09:39:24 pm ToddAHoffman: @kasey428 Education is about $$$ too- Unfortunately it is often about a lack of $$$ #lrnchat
09:39:28 pm dwilkinsnh: @ToddAHoffman Might be worth citing some Rob Cross data to be safe though…. ; ) #lrnchat
09:39:49 pm RayJimenez: Q3) My humble view is corp is too commercial to afford R&D costs #lrnchat
09:40:09 pm sahana2802: Corp trng shd be made available to employees at all times; not controlled dissemination. Emps shd PULL courses at points of need. #lrnchat
09:40:16 pm Tim_M_Martin: we (vendors)  stop marketing that all need is our LMS/Curriculum/Tool….So leaders will stop expecting this promise? @Dave_Ferguson  #lrnchat
09:40:20 pm sahana2802: RT @ChristyATucker: Q3) Both corporate and academic ID could do better at supporting self-directed learning, helping people learn to learn #lrnchat
09:40:22 pm JaneBozarth: RT @ChristyATucker Q3) Both  could do better at supporting self-directed learning, helping people learn to learn #lrnchat
09:40:24 pm dwilkinsnh: RT @ChristyATucker: Q3) Both corporate & academic ID could do better at supporting self-directed learning, help ppl learn to learn #lrnchat
09:40:29 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @kasey428 Gov’t is about mission, but soon will mainly be about juggling debt. #lrnchat
09:40:33 pm sahana2802: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @jsuzcampos: Q3) IDs need to be on the bleeding edge of innovation to transform learning, (part 1). #lrnchat
09:40:47 pm Tim_M_Martin: you speak TRUTH!   @Dave_Ferguson  #lrnchat
09:41:02 pm Bloomfire: RT @ChristyATucker: Q3) Both corporate and academic ID could do better at supporting self-directed learning, helping people learn to learn #lrnchat
09:41:04 pm Dave_Ferguson: @RayJimenez Real corp R&D requires either deep pockets (IBM, GE) or near-monastic devotion to the longterm view. #lrnchat
09:41:11 pm kasey428: RT @ChristyATucker: Both corporate & academic ID could do better @ supporting self-directed learning, helping people learn to learn #lrnchat
09:41:22 pm JaneBozarth: @sahana2802 See my earlier tweet? Call: Trainer doesn’t want emps to be “allowed” to access all courses available, wants to block. #lrnchat
09:41:26 pm kasey428: Got to go… early meeting about gov clients. Ugh. Great to commune w/u guys #lrnchat
09:41:36 pm urbie: @TriciaRansom recent chronicle of higher-ed articles strongly suggest that fiscal year 2011 will be a blood-bath for many schools #lrnchat
09:41:40 pm kellygarber: @billcush  Example …Florida k-12, the FCAT –  build instruction to align with the “test”. or …a board exam, etc. #lrnchat
09:41:50 pm RayJimenez: 1/2 @Tim_M_Martin Tim its the blind leading the blind #lrnchat
09:41:50 pm jsuzcampos: Q3) Reframe. It’s about learning and improvement. Not GPAs, transcripts, compliance or attendance. #lrnchat
09:41:54 pm billcush: Awesome. RT @sahana2802: Corp trng shd be made available to employees at all times; not controlled dissemination. #lrnchat
09:42:11 pm jsuzcampos: @kasey428 Good night Kay! #lrnchat
09:42:20 pm Bloomfire: RT @kasey428: Got to go… early meeting about gov clients. Ugh. Great to commune w/u guys #lrnchat (Hope it goes well. We’ll miss you)
09:42:24 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) Both could give the learner/emplyee/student more choice to select (pull) learning units. Perhaps with some guidance. #lrnchat
09:42:42 pm RayJimenez: 2/2 Q3 learning people expects vendors — vendors only follow learning folks. #lrnchat
09:42:47 pm JaneBozarth: HR Mgr once mad b/c I wouldn’t password-protect tutorial on emp. discipline policy. “Employees shouldn’t be able to see that.” #lrnchat
09:42:57 pm dwilkinsnh: RT @kelly_smith01: Q3) Corp needs to look at more compact learning delivered at time/choice of lrner #lrnchat < Talk to @RayJimenez on this
09:42:58 pm hzl0206: both academic and corporate ID could prolly learn from reg classroom facilitation technique metaresearch – book Models of Teaching #lrnchat
09:43:04 pm ChristyATucker: @JaneBozarth  Ugh. That is obnoxious need for control. Some manager is worried employees will outshine him/her. #lrnchat
09:43:17 pm billcush: @kellygarber OK. I always wrote assessments last. Maybe I will write assessment first next time. World upside! #lrnchat
09:43:23 pm jsuzcampos: Q3) Also, learning as state of nature, not episodic event that is distributed & approved by somone/something else. #lrnchat
09:43:26 pm kellygarber: RT @kelly_smith01: Q3) .could give the learner/emp/student more choice to select (pull) learning units. Perhaps with some guidance. #lrnchat
09:43:29 pm readtoday: We have a strategy for education innovation that integrates stakeholders with the design team. This helps #lrnchat
09:43:57 pm RayJimenez: @Dave_Ferguson 100% agree, but distance, integrity can be met #lrnchat
09:44:10 pm readtoday: For learning material to work it needs to grow out of communities #lrnchat
09:44:24 pm JaneBozarth: We complain that learners want to be spoonfed, but then we won’t let them hold the spoon. #lrnchat
09:44:32 pm ToddAHoffman: People in corp and ed both want an ipad #lrnchat
09:44:40 pm ChristyATucker: RT @jsuzcampos: Q3) Also, learning as state of nature, not episodic event that is distributed & approved by somone/something else. #lrnchat
09:44:46 pm Dave_Ferguson: @billcush Starting w/assessments (or high-level vers.) good way to clear out nice-to-know nonsense. Not foolproof; too many fools. #lrnchat
09:44:51 pm readtoday: The innovators can’t accept the corporate culture  #lrnchat
09:44:59 pm sahana2802: @JaneBozarth Oh yes! Have been asked by clients to block access to modules. Don’t seem to get the point abt self-directed lrng. #lrnchat
09:45:06 pm Bloomfire: RT @ChristyATucker: @JaneBozarth Some manager’s worried employees will outshine him. #lrnchat (Also, it’s often about trust—or lack of it)
09:45:15 pm kelly_smith01: @JaneBozarth I always see how far my password will take me in corp KMS, LMS, project work papers, marketing stuff  #lrnchat
09:45:18 pm sahana2802: RT @JaneBozarth: We complain that learners want to be spoonfed, but then we won’t let them hold the spoon. #lrnchat
09:45:23 pm JaneBozarth: Ha! RT @ToddAHoffman  People in corp and ed both want an ipad #lrnchat
09:45:23 pm Bloomfire: RT @JaneBozarth: We complain that learners want to be spoonfed, but then we won’t let them hold the spoon. #lrnchat
09:45:30 pm kellygarber: @billcush It is different but not bad …keeps me from being in that “figure it out as I go mode” that I can fall into w/ corp ID #lrnchat
09:45:35 pm sahana2802: RT @ChristyATucker: @JaneBozarth  Ugh. That is obnoxious need for control. Some manager is worried employees will outshine him/her. #lrnchat
09:45:43 pm ThomasStone: RT @JaneBozarth: We complain that learners want to be spoonfed, but then we won’t let them hold the spoon. #lrnchat
09:45:53 pm qualityfrog: @JaneBozarth If companies want compliance with policy, they should make info as accessible as possible. But, info often ^protected^ #lrnchat
09:45:54 pm RayJimenez: RT @JaneBozarth: SAD.. We complain that learners want to be spoonfed, but then we won’t let them hold the spoon. #lrnchat
09:46:15 pm jsuzcampos: RT @JaneBozarth: We complain that learners want to be spoonfed, but won’t let them hold the spoon. <let them eat cupcakes!> #lrnchat
09:46:20 pm sahana2802: RT @ChristyATucker: RT @jsuzcampos: Q3) Also, learning as state of nature, not episodic event that is distributed & approved by somone/something else. #lrnchat
09:46:41 pm JaneBozarth: @QualityFrog Right.  #lrnchat
09:46:42 pm ChristyATucker: RT @JaneBozarth: We complain that learners want to be spoonfed, but then we won’t let them hold the spoon. #lrnchat
09:46:48 pm Dave_Ferguson: Control not only fear of outshining. Other fears: wasted time, loss of employee, violation of (usu. spurious) need-to-know. #lrnchat
09:46:56 pm hzl0206: @JaneB letting learners hold spoon good, but learners wld first beat former spoon holders… #lrnchat
09:47:14 pm Tim_M_Martin: it was for sale for 18 months.  if someone with the knowledge and cash wanted it, the world would be different  today @ThomasStone  #lrnchat
09:47:17 pm RayJimenez: RT @JaneBozarth: Ha! RT @ToddAHoffman  new toys … People in corp and ed both want an ipad #lrnchat
09:47:57 pm JaneBozarth: Hotshot famous local co. you all have heard of…Won’t let emps engage in development that would make them valuable to competitor #lrnchat
09:48:01 pm dwilkinsnh: @billcush Test first strategy works well in help design and programming.  Why not learning?   ; ) #lrnchat
09:48:02 pm Dave_Ferguson: True control story: on one project, I had to get “document mgr” to hand me electronic copy of file on disk; wasnt allowed to email. #lrnchat
09:48:08 pm Bloomfire: #lrnchat We often see spoon-o-phobia when demo-ing our product. It’s because we actually let learners hold the spoon.
09:48:34 pm JaneBozarth: @hzl0206 and I’d help. I’d wear my spoonproof suit. #lrnchat
09:48:42 pm dwilkinsnh: RT @JaneBozarth: We complain that learners want to be spoonfed, but then we won’t let them hold the spoon. #lrnchat  <— THIS.  ; )
09:48:46 pm RayJimenez: @dwilkinsnh Same issues – corp/academic still do bloated content.. oh my.. #lrnchat
09:48:50 pm Tim_M_Martin: It would be prudent to assume that the cheapest possible way to keep list revenue will live and nothing more.  @ThomasStone  #lrnchat
09:48:54 pm kelly_smith01: Is an iPad a spoon? #lrnchat
09:49:05 pm Dave_Ferguson: @Bloomfire I take your comment as saying people get trained to expect others tightly grasping the spoon.  So true. #lrnchat
09:49:28 pm Dave_Ferguson: @kelly_smith01 A trowel, but with more pixels. #lrnchat
09:50:17 pm urbie: @kelly_smith01 it’s a funnel #lrnchat
09:50:25 pm minutebio: RT @kelly_smith01: Is an iPad a spoon? // Maybe, but certainly not the caliber if a spork #lrnchat
09:50:34 pm RayJimenez: @kelly_smith01 iPad and other toys — I wondered on this — can they be spoons? #lrnchat
09:50:37 pm kellygarber: @JaneBozarth …but wait …aren’t we the spoon? #lrnchat
09:50:55 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links & requests (or shameless plugs) welcome, too. #lrnchat
09:50:57 pm britz: execs  will often only support learning as they learned – controlled, direct, knowledge saturated, skill deprived. #lrnchat
09:51:01 pm ThomasStone: @Tim_M_Martin Are you saying that the print / online magazine itself will not return? #lrnchat
09:51:04 pm jsuzcampos: @JaneBozarth Funnels, trowels sppons and foodfights, I think the acting interim deputy moderator must intervene now? #lrnchat
09:51:09 pm sahana2802: RT @JaneBozarth: Hotshot famous local co. you all have heard of…Won’t let emps engage in development that would make them valuable to competitor #lrnchat
09:51:13 pm JaneBozarth: I believe the #lrnchat  crowd is getting punchy. And here I am without any punch.
09:51:27 pm readtoday: @kelly_smith01 An IPAD has it good points and bad. The lack of Flash integration makes it not very good as a web browser #lrnchat
09:51:32 pm Dave_Ferguson: @kellygarber Be the tableware. #lrnchat
09:51:43 pm hzl0206: ID in WA state – new to  grp #lrnchat
09:51:53 pm kelly_smith01: @JaneBozarth Always thought that limiting access to learning, KMS, etc. was a way to limit employee becoming to smart/marketable. #lrnchat
09:51:59 pm RayJimenez: @kellygarber With due respects, I feel we are not spoons – if we are, many are rusty #lrnchat
09:52:02 pm jsuzcampos: RT @JaneBozarth: I believe the #lrnchat  crowd is getting punchy. And here I am without any punch. <<THROW a QWRAP at ’em!>>
09:52:13 pm ToddAHoffman: Todd From Pittsburgh- Educational Consultant, thanks for my first #lrnchat
09:52:26 pm Tim_M_Martin: REALLY how long have you worked in the media side of e-learning? RT @RayJimenez:  #lrnchat
09:52:29 pm hzl0206: humble invite: free peek at Insync “learning2learnonline” in June–help newbies learn online-facilitation-dreynolds558@comcast.net #lrnchat
09:52:35 pm JaneBozarth: Q0) Raleigh, NC Trainer, Author, Doct-er. Noncompliant. #lrnchat
09:52:41 pm JustStormy: someone get Jane some punch! RT @JaneBozarth: I believe the #lrnchat  crowd is getting punchy. And here I am without any punch.
09:52:44 pm billcush: Hard to imagine. RT @JaneBozarth: I believe the #lrnchat  crowd is getting punchy. And here I am without any punch.
09:52:45 pm urbie: urbie delgado, wash metro id, thinking about how something’s gotta give in how we rate id’s.. productive doesn’t mean busy #lrnchat
09:52:47 pm jkunrein: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links & requests (or shameless plugs) welcome, too. #lrnchat
09:53:07 pm RayJimenez: Ray jimenez I need beta testers for elearning games http://my3mg.com #lrnchat
09:53:08 pm Dave_Ferguson: DC-based Dave; ISD, corp learning, daveswhiteboard.com, weddings, bar mitzvahs. (Watch me get wedding-consultant followers.) #lrnchat
09:53:12 pm Tim_M_Martin: Don’t sell your wishfully thinking as knowledge… you’re just not that good.  @RayJimenez:  #lrnchat
09:53:21 pm Bloomfire: Q0) Nemo, asian kid w/ dreadlocks currently interviewing 100s of Fortune 1000 learning pros for a new e-pub: http://ow.ly/1KSk0 #lrnchat
09:53:37 pm JaneBozarth: Plug: New book review blog highlighting classics in L&D lit. http://trainingbookreview.com/ Join in!  #lrnchat
09:53:47 pm RayJimenez: Conducted yesterday NO-lecture webinar . see recording http://bit.ly/aFLkWa #lrnchat
09:53:52 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, ISD Consultant (corporate kind), North Texas, spoon feeding myself for a number years now #lrnchat
09:53:52 pm ToddAHoffman: RT @RayJimenez: Ray jimenez I need beta testers for elearning games http://my3mg.com #lrnchat
09:54:02 pm Bloomfire: RT @jkunrein: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links & requests (or shameless plugs) welcome, too. #lrnchat
09:54:06 pm kellygarber: Kelly, tiny biz owner, shameless plug …I need some “likes” on FB, please? http://bit.ly/9brPTO #lrnchat
09:54:24 pm seanbengry: Spiking it would be appropriate RT @JaneBozarth: I believe the #lrnchat  crowd is getting punchy. And here I am without any punch.
09:54:26 pm RayJimenez: @Tim_M_Martin 100% agree. #lrnchat
09:54:35 pm jsuzcampos: Qwrap) Jeannette Campos, Red Sox nation, ISD, grad prof, off to watch the #Celtics. Thanks to lone moderator, @JaneBozarth #lrnchat
09:55:04 pm ChristyATucker: Christy Tucker, glad to be back to #lrnchat after several weeks too busy working overtime in Moodle
09:55:08 pm kenmoir: RT @JaneBozarth: We complain that learners want to be spoonfed, but then we won’t let them hold the spoon. #lrnchat
09:55:14 pm billcush: Q0) Bill Cushard. Charlotte, NC. Training dude…aspiring writer of assessments first. #lrnchat
09:55:16 pm Tim_M_Martin: bye y’all @RayJimenez: #lrnchat
09:55:21 pm jkunrein: Qwrap) Judy Unrein, ID who is now one (1) capstone project away from her MEd! http://www.onehundredfortywords.com #lrnchat
09:55:32 pm RayJimenez: Plug upcoming book yours truly “Social Learning, Work and Performance” June-July #lrnchat
09:55:38 pm ThomasStone: Thomas Stone, from Element K in Rochester, NY. Thanks everyone on #lrnchat this evening!
09:55:51 pm kenmoir: RT @JaneBozarth: HR Mgr once mad b/c I wouldn’t password-protect tutorial on emp. discipline policy. “Employees shouldn’t be able to see that.” #lrnchat
09:56:06 pm kelly_smith01: Q Final) Nice moderation to #lrnchat 2. Must be them fine deputies. Keepin’ law n’ order and general civility.
09:56:11 pm ChristyATucker: @jkunrein Congrats! What will your capstone project be? #lrnchat
09:56:11 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman, eLearning Designer. In & out 2night, but was good – thx #lrnchat
09:56:32 pm kelly_smith01: Q Final) Nice moderation to #lrnchat 2. Must be them fine deputies. Keepin’ law n’ order and general civility. #lrnchat
09:56:43 pm JaneBozarth: @RayJimenez OK give us 3 questions! #lrnchat
09:57:08 pm billcush: I am coming around. RT @dwilkinsnh: @billcush Test first strategy works well in help design & programming. Why not learning? #lrnchat
09:57:15 pm Aminhotep: @readtoday The innovators can’t accept the corporate culture #lrnchat << The may not want to http://wp.me/ptcfd-3h
09:57:34 pm qualityfrog: @JaneBozarth Altho, info behind pw on Intranet may be more accessible than 15yr ago when it was in a binder in HR manager’s office #lrnchat
09:57:44 pm JaneBozarth: @jsuzcampos Thank you. I prefer “outlaw”, but will take “lone moderator”. #lrnchat
09:57:55 pm RandomSpotlight: RT @RayJimenez Plug upcoming book URS truly “Social Learning, wk & Performance” June-July #lrnchat #saycheese
09:58:20 pm Dave_Ferguson: -@billcush Re starting w/ assessment, How Geary Rummler Helped Me Get Leaner:  http://bit.ly/dCp3J5 (self-plugged blog post) #lrnchat
09:58:22 pm kelly_smith01: RT @RayJimenez: Plug upcoming book yours truly “Social Learning, Work and Performance” June-July #lrnchat
09:58:22 pm JaneBozarth: @seanbengry Yeah, sometimes we even put punch in the punch. #lrnchat
09:58:26 pm amchugh760: RT @RayJimenez: Ray jimenez I need beta testers for elearning games http://my3mg.com #lrnchat
09:58:38 pm kellygarber: RT @kellygarber: . tiny biz owner, shameless plug, I need some “likes” on FB http://bit.ly/9brPTO <so much so that I RT myself!> #lrnchat
09:58:45 pm sahana2802: Sahana, Pune, India. ID exploring storytelling, collaboration, communities of practice and how they impact performance, learning. #lrnchat
09:58:47 pm seanbengry: Qwrap) Sean Bengry from Rochester, signing off; at the university tomorrow to take course on corp learning  #lrnchat
09:59:06 pm hzl0206: @billcush writing test right after intended learning outcome – usu. helps SME understand valid assessment #lrnchat
09:59:47 pm RayJimenez: @JaneBozarth Question: Why we continue to have bad ID design habits? What to do? #lrnchat
09:59:58 pm RayJimenez: @JaneBozarth Questions: what would one be doing in learning in 10 years?  #lrnchat
10:00:01 pm sahana2802: @jkunrein Congratulations! and all the best! #lrnchat
10:00:19 pm dwilkinsnh: RT @RayJimenez: Plug upcoming book for  @rayjimenez  “Social Learning, Work and Performance” June-July #lrnchat
10:00:40 pm RayJimenez: @Tim_M_Martin Bye Tim. Nice to see you. #lrnchat
10:00:46 pm nickjhowe: @JaneBozarth What #lrnchat topics have already been discussed?
10:00:56 pm Bloomfire: RT @SuzNet: Suzanne Choma, Learning & Performance Consultant, Rochester NY, hope to meet some of u @ #ASTD10 #lrnchat (C u at the tweetup?)
10:00:57 pm JaneBozarth: @RayJimenez I meant related to your book. We need 1 topic, 3 Qs for every #lrnchat
10:01:16 pm lrnchat: Thank you for joining us on #lrnchat. Please tell us if you blog about the conversation so we can link to it on http://lrnchat.com
10:01:32 pm RayJimenez: @JaneBozarth What to do to rid corp learning with controls? why? why not? j how? #lrnchat
10:01:39 pm Dave_Ferguson: @nickjhowe See the blog: lrnchat.wordpress.com
#lrnchat
10:01:48 pm trinarimmer: RT @RayJimenez: RT @JaneBozarth: SAD.. We complain that learners want to be spoonfed, but then we won’t let them hold the spoon. #lrnchat
10:01:50 pm JaneBozarth: @nickjhowe Check the transcripts on the #lrnchat blog at https://lrnchat.wordpress.com/
10:02:20 pm JaneBozarth: @RayJimenez oooh like that thx #lrnchat
10:02:30 pm hzl0206: thx and  ‘nite all🙂 #lrnchat
10:02:37 pm lrnchat: Once the #lrnchat transcript is posted to http://lrnchat.com we’ll announce it here.

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