Transcript 13-May-2010 (early)

04:32:30 pm lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been? Q0 warm up after the rules.
04:34:17 pm lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1) Introduce yourself (we’ll do this again at the end): Location? Focus? Favorite topics?
04:34:18 pm allonsdanser: #lrnchat is starting now! Join in!
04:34:33 pm allonsdanser: RT @c4lpt: EU #lrnchat starting shortly (4.30 pm BST (11.30 am EDT)) Topic = difference bt academic and corporate instuctiona design
04:34:42 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, elrning strategist, lrning experience design instigator, genial malcontent, consultant/author/speaker Walnut Creek CA #lrnchat
04:35:30 pm Quinnovator: welcome to all new and returning #lrnchat participants, looking forward to another fast and crazy session
04:36:03 pm c4lpt: #lrnchat tweets begin: 1) I’m Jane Hart, Learning & Performance Consultant from SW England
04:36:05 pm lrnchat: 2) Try to stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 20 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
04:36:44 pm StephanieDaul: Stephanie Daul, Instructional Designer – Corporate, Chicago, IL #lrnchat
04:36:45 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, North Texas, ISD Consultant #lrnchat
04:37:39 pm LandDDave: Please excuse the excessive tweets – I’ll be participating in #lrnchat for a bit. Come join us! #lrnchat
04:37:43 pm Rsuominen: Riitta Suominen,Tampere, Finland. Interested in #e-learning, course design, and writing. #lrnchat
04:37:57 pm lrnchat: 4) Remember to include #lrnchat in all posts or use a tool like http://tweetchat.com or http://tweetgrid.com
04:37:57 pm lrnchat: 5) Periodically RT questions so those outside #lrnchat know what we’re talking about & so they can contribute too.
04:38:14 pm JimLundy: Jim Lundy, VP GM at Saba Software, formerly practice lead on Collab and Learning at Gartner. #lrnchat
04:38:43 pm lrnchat: 3) Write complete thoughts to help followers outside #lrnchat learn from you.
04:38:50 pm lrnchat: 6) On #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm & irony welcome though. Really.
04:38:50 pm evemarfil: RT @Rsuominen: Riitta Suominen,Tampere, Finland. Interested in #e-learning, course design, and writing. #lrnchat
04:39:21 pm tbirdcymru: #lrnchat Terese Bird, Learning Technologist, University of Leicester Beyond Distance Research Alliance #lrnchat
04:39:21 pm lrnchat: 7) 10 min before end, reintroduce yourself. Links & requests (or shameless plugs) welcome, too #lrnchat
04:39:28 pm LandDDave: David Kelly, CPLP, Training Director for NYC-Based Bank, Lifelong Learner. Looking forward to another great chat. #lrnchat
04:39:52 pm jclarey: Janet Clarey, new dork in New York. #lrnchat
04:40:09 pm michaelcjohnson: #lrnchat 1) I’m Mike Johnson at BYU’s Center for Teaching & Learning in Provo, UT, USA
04:40:34 pm millennial_ID: Christina, Instructional Designer in Orange County #lrnchat
04:40:43 pm lrnchat: Q1) What is different about academic versus corporate ID? #lrnchat
04:41:05 pm GillianP: #lrnchat I’m Gillian: learning designer of international professsional and higher ed. Consultant/teacher/speaker. Based UK.
04:41:31 pm LandDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What is different about academic versus corporate ID? #lrnchat
04:41:34 pm c4lpt: @jclarey Hi Janet, good to see you here #lrnchat
04:42:04 pm c4lpt: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What is different about academic versus corporate ID? #lrnchat
04:42:10 pm 2GFred: Fred Stevens; Los Angeles; Love making learning happen; currently studying Mindmapping. Looking forward to learning with you all. #lrnchat
04:42:22 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What is different about academic versus corporate ID? #lrnchat
04:43:09 pm usablelearning: @lrnchat Julie Dirksen – instructional design nerd, Minneapolis #lrnchat
04:43:24 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) When I was in academia – my ISD tools were seen as similar to the research tools used by faculty – accepted #lrnchat
04:43:48 pm StephanieDaul: Q1) Designing with a different audience in mind? #lrnchat
04:43:57 pm Thabo99: #lrnchat thabo mophiring Johannesburg South Africa master’s student and just generally nosey
04:44:06 pm SueSchnorr: Hi everyone, Sue Schnorr, Instructional Design Consultant, NY. I’m a PM #lrnchat regular, crashing your party for a few minutes! #lrnchat
04:45:00 pm Quinnovator: Q1) diff btwn corp/acad ID: timescale (hrs vs wks/mos), focus (trng vs ed’n), approach: (ad hoc vs cohort), aud (employ vs stdnts) #lrnchat
04:45:20 pm baldgeekinmd: #lrnchat Hi all, Maurice Coleman, Library Trainer Harf Co in MD and host of Library Training podcast T is for Training
04:45:30 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) More patience for process – front end analysis – task analysis – evaluation in academia #lrnchat
04:45:33 pm learninganorak: @StephanieDaul How is that a question. Not being contentious, just asking… #lrnchat
04:45:50 pm c4lpt: Q1) Academic designing usually for whole class use; corporate designing for individual self-paced use #lrnchat
04:45:56 pm usablelearning: @lrnchat Is Q1 re difference between designing *for* academic vs design *for* academic? or more general #lrnchat
04:46:07 pm michaelcjohnson: 2) i found corporate ID to be much more behavioralist (though it doesn’t have to be) #lrnchat
04:46:12 pm LandDDave: Q1) I would guess that justification and challenging of ID is less common in an acedemic environment. #lrnchat
04:46:26 pm michaelcjohnson: RT @kelly_smith01: Q1) More patience for process – front end analysis – task analysis – evaluation in academia #lrnchat
04:46:33 pm 2GFred: Q1) more formal rubric for evaluating learning effectiveness? #lrnchat
04:46:42 pm laura_horan: I’m Laura Horan, K12 Curriculum Coordinator in Iowa, US. Just listening and Learning for a while. #lrnchat
04:46:52 pm mbr1online: Hi all. Marty Rosenheck – first time participant in #lrnchat. I’m a learning strategist with a background in cognitive science.
04:47:16 pm Quinnovator: Q1) academic tends to count on more social, less polish versus corporate, as gross generalization #lrnchat
04:47:31 pm marloft: Mary Loftus – learner, trainer, facilitator – online and f2f from Sligo, Ireland – former #lrnchat lurker
04:47:31 pm baldgeekinmd: @learninganorak I agree, I don’t under stand the true context. Are we discussing audience? Management? philosophy #lrnchat
04:47:36 pm jclarey: Q1) (a)Context & culture.(b)the LMS environment – higher ed = Bb, WebCT, Moodle…corp – 100+ systems) #lrnchat
04:48:22 pm Rsuominen: RT @Quinnovator Q1) diff btwn corp/acad ID: timescale, focus, approach, audience #lrnchat
04:48:24 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) I found faculty desired to particpate in process more often – Granted not everyone – some hard cases #lrnchat
04:48:34 pm Quinnovator: though some of us are pushing both to be more 21st century skills based😉 #lrnchat
04:48:36 pm SueSchnorr: I’ve seen more skills based in corporate, more theory in academic #lrnchat
04:48:52 pm Rsuominen: Q1) In corporations learning should produce some kinds of concrete results. #lrnchat
04:48:54 pm marloft: RT @c4lpt: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What is different about academic versus corporate ID? #lrnchat
04:49:12 pm mhelfrich98: RT @kkapp: Avoiding “I know you can’t read this slide but…” http://tinyurl.com/28wvgnx #lrnchat #presentation
04:49:22 pm learninganorak: I think I must have missed the key tweet that makes today’s #lrnchat all make sense. I’m lost :o(
04:49:25 pm jclarey: Q1) (c) Higher ed means paying for courses with some ultimate goal/ending point; corporate is ‘career-long’ (d) #lrnchat
04:49:45 pm LandDDave: Q1) In academics the overall goal is to broaden the learner’s skills, while corporate ID tends to have a more narrow focus. #lrnchat
04:49:45 pm StephanieDaul: @mbr1online Welcome Marty! #lrnchat
04:49:48 pm cynan_sez: @lrnchat Q0) sorry I’m late. Cynan. e-learning wannabe. international NGO. fire it up. #lrnchat
04:49:54 pm Quinnovator: unfortunately, both corp and acad tend to focus on knowledge more than skills! #lrnchat
04:50:12 pm tonya_simmons: Hey folks – just flipped up TweetDeck & realized there was a #lrnchat going on – sorry for the late entrance
04:50:19 pm GillianP: #lrnchat Diff is in the outcomes required more than in the methods
04:50:33 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Academia tends to be more knowledge less (on-the-job) application – a bit obvious #lrnchat
04:50:38 pm jclarey: RT @SueSchnorr: I’ve seen more skills based in corporate, more theory in academic #lrnchat (absolutely – and more general in higher ed)
04:50:45 pm tonya_simmons: Tonya Goth Simmons, production designer, Phasient Learning Technologies, Ames, IA #lrnchat
04:51:10 pm Quinnovator: @learninganorak diffs between corp and academic ID #lrnchat
04:51:37 pm baldgeekinmd: @Quinnovator That is an astute observation Re: focus on knowledge more than skills. #lrnchat
04:51:39 pm marloft: Q1 – Corporate training: my experience: learners generally have a specific goal/task ahead – & they need training 2 achieve that #lrnchat
04:51:43 pm tbirdcymru: #lrnchat Academic ID uses the concept of pedagogy a lot more than corporate
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04:52:03 pm usablelearning: @lrnchat if the ? is “designing for…” they are very different – highered based on a system (eg blackboard), discussions, assgmts #lrnchat
04:52:19 pm kelly_smith01: Tweet deck just asked me to relax a bit – should I? This is #lrnchat #lrnchat
04:52:25 pm Mary_a_Myers: sadly for what seems like the 5th week in a row…i will be missing #lrnchat as always i will follow-up with the transcript.🙂
04:52:30 pm Rsuominen: RT @GillianP #lrnchat Diff is in the outcomes required more than in the methods
04:52:35 pm Quinnovator: reckon acad *should* be focused on developing life-long learning skills, tho’ corp could/should too #lrnchat (er, on a soapbox here😉
04:52:36 pm z_rose: oh nuts I’m late for #lrnchat! Hi all. Zoe, working for elearning startup in TESOL.
04:53:09 pm michaelcjohnson: @Quinnovator true in some cases, but my experience has been corporate is more do and academic outcomes more holistic (do, know, be) #lrnchat
04:53:21 pm odguru: @kelly_smith01 Cheeky tweetchat! #lrnchat
04:53:26 pm mbr1online: Q1) Get’s back to the question of training vs. education – different goals and different approaches between workplace and academia #lrnchat
04:53:27 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Academia tends to be more knowledge less (on-the-job) application – a bit obvious #lrnchat #lrnchat
04:54:02 pm 2GFred: RT @Quinnovator: reckon acad *should* be focused on developing life-long learning skills, tho corp could/should too #lrnchat #lrnchat
04:54:10 pm jclarey: Q1 (d) personal experience is that UNI is more passive (ok to sit/listen) (e)higher ed not open to everyone only those that can $$ #lrnchat
04:54:21 pm michaelcjohnson: q1) often easier to help corporate learners see relevance (even if it is “this is part of your job”) #lrnchat
04:54:33 pm JudithELS: #lrnchat Sorry guys but due to pressure of work I won’t be able to join you today which is a shame as the topic is right up my street.
04:54:44 pm z_rose: In corporate ID, the goals must be more specific because the outcomes must be more must measurable to show ROI #lrnchat
04:54:50 pm usablelearning: @lrnchat Q1) really different accountability (who and what), too #lrnchat
04:55:15 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) In academia there “tends” to be a common outcome of group of learners ie Physics 101 #lrnchat
04:55:21 pm Quinnovator: @kelly_smith01 I had that ‘relax’ going on a few days ago, no idea why #lrnchat
04:55:51 pm jclarey: @mbr1Q1 online training vs. education probably one of the key differentiators #lrnchat
04:55:59 pm odguru: Biggest diff-learners at uni wonder “what should I do with my life?” Workplace learners wonder “what AM I doing with my life”🙂 #lrnchat
04:56:02 pm cynan_sez: @lrnchat Q1) Academia: failure is the student’s problem. Corporate: failure is a business risk/problem. It all starts there. #lrnchat
04:56:42 pm jclarey: Q1) the model in higher ed dates back to when? 1600s. #oldasdirt #lrnchat
04:56:43 pm StephanieDaul: @kelly_smith01 Isn’t that true of Corp? i.e. warehouse workers or leadership #lrnchat
04:56:54 pm baldgeekinmd: @z_rose I disagree, in every training the goals and outcomes have to be specific to know if you have reached them via your training #lrnchat
04:57:12 pm Quinnovator: RT @odguru: uni learners wonder “what should I do with my life?” Workplace learners wonder “what AM I doing with my life”🙂 #lrnchat
04:57:27 pm jstein: Presuming that corporate ID treats SMEs as hired resources, whereas higher ed ID often treats SME as clients. #lrnchat
04:57:41 pm jclarey: @kelly_smith01 yes, forgot that issue of “101” “201”, etc. #lrnchat
04:57:52 pm Rsuominen: @JudithELS Sorry to hear — see you next week. #lrnchat
04:57:54 pm LandDDave: Q1) Academia suffers from some of the same short-sightedness corporate often does – consider training to standardized tests. #lrnchat
04:58:00 pm tbirdcymru: @cynan_sez #lrnchat IMHO in academia failure *used* to be the student’s problem. Now it’s the uni’s problem. #lrnchat
04:58:08 pm zenlearning: @cynan_sez teacher/student fail with broader implications across student’s life vs. business risk with specific implications #lrnchat
04:58:12 pm zenlearning: #lrnchat
04:58:14 pm michaelcjohnson: @jclarey we do have difficulty getting some professors out of lecture mode only #lrnchat
04:58:31 pm SueSchnorr: @jclarey … and then there’s the Socratic method, dating back to … umm, I forgot my history! (learned in lower grade academia!) #lrnchat
04:58:33 pm marloft: Q1) In academia learners want more of the ‘why’ than the ‘how’. #lrnchat
04:58:42 pm jclarey: Q1) most businesses aren’t in the education/learning business vs. corporate (banking, spilling oil, etc.) #lrnchat
04:59:20 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Academic attitude: Kingsfield: You come in here with a skull full of mush and you leave thinking like a lawyer (or whatever). #lrnchat
04:59:28 pm tbirdcymru: RT @marloft: Q1) In academia learners want more of the why than the how. Like this! #lrnchat
04:59:31 pm zenlearning: @jclarey True but there is some crossover within training and educaton for both, don’t you think? #lrnchat
04:59:45 pm millennial_ID: Q1) my own personal experience (have never design academic) – academia is all about knowing and not any doing #lrnchat
04:59:48 pm jclarey: @Quinnovator I wonder both..what AM I doing and what SHOULD I do. #spaz #lrnchat
04:59:49 pm tonya_simmons: 1/2 Q1) courses for our corp. clients tend to be a 45-min. spiel on a specific topic or skill with activities along the way #lrnchat
04:59:53 pm LandDDave: RT @marloft: Q1) In academia learners want more of the why than the how. < Corporate learners want that too – they just get told no #lrnchat
04:59:53 pm Quinnovator: corp uni tries to mimic acad, unfortunately I think #lrnchat
05:00:13 pm marloft: RT @Quinnovator: RT @odguru:uni lernrs wonder "what shld I do w/ my life?" Workplace lernrs wonder "what AM I doing w/ my life"🙂 #lrnchat
05:00:23 pm z_rose: In academic learning, intended final beneficiary is the student. In corporate learning, intended final beneficiary is the student. #lrnchat
05:00:25 pm tonya_simmons: 2/2 Q1) I would academic would involve a more on-going conversation between students & instructors, as well as other students #lrnchat
05:00:43 pm z_rose: In academic learning, intended final beneficiary = student. In corporate learning, intended final beneficiary = corporation. #lrnchat
05:00:56 pm tonya_simmons: Q1) or rather, I would think – my experience with academic on-line instruction is nill #lrnchat
05:01:00 pm tbirdcymru: @millennial_ID There's quite a bit of skills-based ID in academia, depends on the subject, the module.:-) #lrnchat #lrnchat
05:01:08 pm Quinnovator: RT @jclarey: @Quinnovator I wonder both..what AM I doing and what SHOULD I do. #spaz #lrnchat < resemble that remark
05:01:13 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Academia mostly push learning – #lrnchat
05:01:38 pm jclarey: @zenlearning oh definitely. i rarely paint a picture with one brush. : ) good point. #lrnchat
05:01:41 pm pieperassociate: In academia your success and failures are your own, while in the corporate world your success and failures are hopefully shared. #lrnchat
05:01:53 pm tonya_simmons: RT @Quinnovator: corp uni tries to mimic acad, unfortunately I think – how so? #lrnchat
05:02:19 pm Quinnovator: actually, find surprising range in acad ID: from vocational college low-level skills through to higher ed western civ #lrnchat
05:02:53 pm michaelcjohnson: RT @z_rose: In academic learning, intended final beneficiary = student. In corporate learning, intended final beneficiary = corporation. #lrnchat
05:03:07 pm JaneBozarth: I hear I should drop in on #lrnchat what have I missed? And hello everyone.
05:03:15 pm StephanieDaul: Q1 Academia builds a relationship with the teacher. Corporate is a one and done with no real relationship built #lrnchat
05:03:22 pm Quinnovator: similarly, corp variabiilty from job training to leadership concepts #lrnchat
05:03:26 pm fiveacross: RT @Quinnovator: RT @odguru: uni learners wonder "what should I do with my life?" Workplace learners wonder "what AM I doing with my life"🙂 #lrnchat
05:03:44 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) U of Texas Health Science Cntr – Dental program self-paced – student selects pace and part of sequence of courses (pull) #lrnchat
05:03:47 pm fiveacross: RT @jclarey: @Quinnovator I wonder both..what AM I doing and what SHOULD I do. #spaz #lrnchat
05:03:53 pm cynan_sez: @z_rose what about medical training? intended beneficiary = patient (not student, not corporation) #lrnchat
05:04:19 pm odguru: @JaneBozarth Hello Dr. Jane! #lrnchat
05:04:30 pm JaneBozarth: In grad school found that profs often didn't want to teach; in corp find that trainers DO, alas, want to be "teacher" #lrnchat
05:04:53 pm Rsuominen: Good way to put it. RT @marloft In academia learners want more of the 'why' than the 'how'. #lrnchat
05:04:54 pm zenlearning: @jclarey @quinnovator Shouldn't uni students and employees be asking the same questions? What AM and SHOULD I do with my life? #lrnchat
05:05:16 pm Quinnovator: @tonya_simmons reacting to the worst: courses on the 'event' spray and pray model, 100 level, 200 level, without any followup #lrnchat
05:05:45 pm zenlearning: @janebozarth how the world would change if we could flip that! #lrnchat
05:05:55 pm z_rose: .@cynan_sez not true… maybe 'predominant' beneficiary rather than 'final'. #lrnchat
05:06:07 pm millennial_ID: Many prof. more concerned w/their research & not teaching RT @JaneBozarth: In grad school profs often didn't want to teach #lrnchat
05:07:05 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) In acamemia and professional world – Friday is a bad day for learning #lrnchat
05:07:11 pm evemarfil: A must watch! Great video on understanding DFL kids (Digital as a first language) http://bit.ly/boKhnx #edchat #lrnchat #teachers #parents
05:07:24 pm StephanieDaul: Does good design require a "teacher"? #lrnchat
05:07:24 pm LandDDave: RT @zenlearning: @janebozarth how the world would change if we could flip that! << I'm not sure teachers should be 'teaching' #lrnchat
05:07:30 pm tonya_simmons: @Quinnovator yes, but I got the spray and pray method in those courses in reg. uni lectures – it's really just lazy teaching #lrnchat
05:07:46 pm Quinnovator: @millennial_ID agreed, faculty rewarded on research, service too, corp ID rewarded on outcomes (or # students🙂 #lrnchat
05:07:53 pm lrnchat: Q2) What do corporate and academic ID each do uniquely well and could learn from the other? #lrnchat
05:08:09 pm c4lpt: RT kelly_smith01 Q1) In acamemia and professional world – Friday is a bad day for learning #lrnchat <<every day's a bad day it seems!
05:08:53 pm zenlearning: @landddave Meant that the enthusiasm/want/need to teach should be flipped. Not the actual "style" so to speak. : ) #lrnchat
05:08:57 pm JaneBozarth: @LandDDave Meant: some profs clearly interested in their research not in their students; students nuisance, not purpose #lrnchat
05:09:10 pm millennial_ID: Academia focuses too much on testing – causes students to only "memorize" items so they can pass tests #lrnchat
05:09:11 pm LandDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What do corporate and academic ID each do uniquely well and could learn from the other? #lrnchat
05:09:25 pm usablelearning: @zenlearning definitely, although I'd be sad to lose all the "learning for the sake of learning" #lrnchat
05:09:32 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What do corporate and academic ID each do uniquely well and could learn from the other? #lrnchat
05:10:22 pm LandDDave: RT @zenlearning: @JaneBozarth – then I agree! #lrnchat
05:10:46 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) Academia could learn more about performance and application (on-the-job) from corporate (where is does happen) #lrnchat
05:10:50 pm Quinnovator: Q2) corp more often 'gets' skill focus, acad more often 'gets' social learning benefits #lrnchat
05:10:55 pm tonya_simmons: @millennial_ID that largely depends on institution & program – I went to a Uni that prides itself on hands-on journalism inst. #lrnchat
05:10:59 pm millennial_ID: Q2) I hear academia is really embracing collaborative learning – I know many who have recently exp. it & think very highly of it #lrnchat
05:11:14 pm marloft: RT @Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What do corporate and academic ID each do uniquely well and could learn from the other? #lrnchat
05:11:17 pm baldgeekinmd: Q2) Corporate ID can learn holistic design and academic can learn about customized learner and task based design #lrnchat
05:11:21 pm SueSchnorr: it's getting better, but I'd still like to see more learner interaction in academia, vs. lecture #lrnchat
05:11:22 pm StephanieDaul: Q2) Academia does a better job with evaluation #lrnchat
05:12:25 pm SueSchnorr: @millennial_ID yes, much moreso than when i was a student and grad student… glad to see that. #lrnchat
05:12:29 pm briggzay: q1) in the academy, i tend to design my instruction for longer-term outcomes than in corporate #lrnchat
05:12:38 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) Corporate could learn about collaboration from academic (from my experience) #lrnchat
05:12:46 pm kelly_smith01: RT @StephanieDaul: Q2) Academia does a better job with evaluation #lrnchat
05:12:59 pm millennial_ID: @tonya_simmons I know I'm generalizing my own uni exp. – I went to a very research, theory based school #lrnchat
05:13:23 pm JudithELS: @Rsuominen Thanks but the asthma elearning module I'm working on is proving to be extremely challenging – see you next week I hope #lrnchat
05:13:25 pm jclarey: Q1 wordle for Q1 http://bit.ly/acE35B #lrnchat
05:13:35 pm amphiboly: Q1 #lrnchat coud team-focused exercises and learning in corporate training be equivalent to classroom design in academia?
05:13:43 pm tonya_simmons: RT @StephanieDaul: Q2) Academia does a better job with evaluation – not so sure, you can fail a test but still know what was taught #lrnchat
05:13:48 pm jstein: #lrnchat Q2) Uniquely? Don't know, but I would like to believe that corporate ID practices stronger tracking of resources and expenditures.
05:13:48 pm cmoor4: RT @evemarfil: Gr8 video on understandng DFL kids (Digital as a 1st language) http://bit.ly/boKhnx #edchat #lrnchat #teachers #parents
05:13:56 pm odguru: IMO Undergrad is like workplace 80% of learning ain't in class… Grad school was different (unless you count politics) #lrnchat
05:14:02 pm mikefixs: RT @millennial_ID: Academia focuses 2 much on testing – causes students 2 only "memorize" items so they can pass #lrnchat Not sure I agree
05:14:29 pm LandDDave: RT @StephanieDaul: Q2) Academia does a better job with evaluation << Academia evaluates learning well, but often not application #lrnchat
05:14:43 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) Wish Regina and Gina were here they have been in both academia and corporate recently #lrnchat
05:14:49 pm millennial_ID: Or you can pass a test and not remember anything – ie. my entire college exp!!! @StephanieDaul: Q2) Academia does better eval #lrnchat
05:14:55 pm c4lpt: RT @kelly_smith01 Q2) Corporate could learn about collaboration from academic (from my experience) #lrnchat <<Agreed
05:14:55 pm tonya_simmons: @millennial_ID my husb. just got MA in Eng. in a sim. program, but he was in Rhet., Comp. & Prof. Comm. to be a tech writer #lrnchat
05:14:58 pm Quinnovator: btw, for grins on w/in academic battles between for-profit & NFP unis, see this response by UoP to Frontline: http://bit.ly/aTwdRv #lrnchat
05:15:09 pm StephanieDaul: @tonya_simmons but tests aren't the only way to evaluate and academia knows that #lrnchat
05:15:15 pm odguru: @JaneBozarth I am well. Must be countdown to the book now, yes? #lrnchat
05:15:34 pm 2GFred: Q2) Seems corp gives learner more frequent ackn of completing a course (shorter) #lrnchat
05:15:46 pm tonya_simmons: @millennial_ID not much focus in his program on application (that was looked down upon), we called it the Ivory Tower #lrnchat
05:15:54 pm Quinnovator: Q2) acad somewhat 'gets' developing learner over longer period of time #lrnchat
05:16:00 pm usablelearning: Partially because it start w presumption that eval WILL happen RT @StephanieDaul Q2) Academia does a better job with evaluation #lrnchat
05:16:08 pm amphiboly: Q2) I'm not sure that there could be any generalized uniqueness benefit. Some schools and some companies do extraordinary things #lrnchat
05:16:10 pm wordwealthy: Newbie to #lrnchat.Q2) With elective corp ed, focus more on superior usability and design of courses to attract learners. #lrnchat
05:16:15 pm z_rose: Academia could learn accountability from business. Too many lazy lecturers who assume their job is to show up & talk. #lrnchat
05:16:16 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Corporate could learn about collaboration from academic (from my experience) #lrnchat
05:16:32 pm jclarey: Q2) stop charging me an arm and a leg for text book uni…put it online #lrnchat
05:16:33 pm zenlearning: @usablelearning q2)me too. Something that corporations can learn from uni, tho, don't you think? That "learn for sake of learning"? #lrnchat
05:16:33 pm Quinnovator: Q2) corp gets value of contextualized assessment (e.g. sims) more #lrnchat
05:16:49 pm amphiboly: RT @Quinnovator: btw, for grins on w/in academic battles between for-profit & NFP unis, see this response by UoP to Frontline: http://bit.ly/aTwdRv #lrnchat
05:16:58 pm Rsuominen: Same here @millennial_ID I went to a very research, theory based school #lrnchat
05:16:59 pm z_rose: (full disclosure: I am married to an academic & most of our friends are academics too. I am not an academic.) #lrnchat
05:17:20 pm odguru: @kelly_smith01 Ya – would be good to have. Leader or instructor/facilitator whose done a lot of both here? #lrnchat
05:17:35 pm LandDDave: RT @Quinnovator: Q2) acad somewhat gets developing learner over longer period of time < It helps with tuition fees🙂 #lrnchat
05:17:36 pm z_rose: Academia could learn about the importance of training trainers – most academics aren't offered/don't take teacher training #lrnchat
05:17:43 pm jclarey: Q2) More keggers needed in corporations #lrnchat
05:18:16 pm cynan_sez: @z_rose yer an academic groupie mate😉 #lrnchat
05:18:22 pm LandDDave: RT @jclarey: Q2) More keggers needed in corporations < Yes! #lrnchat
05:18:24 pm simbeckhampson: late for the party… #lrnchat
05:18:41 pm Quinnovator: re: academic ed, if you haven't seen Father Guido Sarducci's 5 minute university, you must: http://bit.ly/mnbiI #lrnchat
05:18:47 pm millennial_ID: seems the higher ranked schools are research based, while hands-on schools are ranked lower – i think it needs to be flipped! #lrnchat
05:19:09 pm Quinnovator: RT @z_rose: Academia could learn accountability from business. Too many lazy lecturers who assume their job is to show up & talk. #lrnchat
05:19:19 pm baldgeekinmd: RT @jclarey: Q2) More keggers needed in corporations #lrnchat
05:19:36 pm kelticray: #lrnchat I have taught both online and onsite for nine years. I now work in a corp that desings elearning
05:19:38 pm Quinnovator: @z_rose but flip side, too many corp trainers who go for looking good on smile sheets rather than outcomes #lrnchat
05:20:16 pm z_rose: @cynan_sez then I think most groupies are more charitable towards their groups😉 #lrnchat
05:20:24 pm millennial_ID: RT @z_rose: Academia could learn about imp. of training trainers – most academics aren't offered/don't take teacher training #lrnchat
05:20:47 pm odguru: @Quinnovator RT:Father Guido Sarducci's 5 minute university, must see: http://bit.ly/mnbiI <<< love this one! Classsic! #lrnchat
05:20:49 pm Quinnovator: disclaimer: have been academic, now in corp side (but never 'trainer') #lrnchat😉
05:20:51 pm JaneBozarth: RT @jclarey Q2) More keggers needed in corporations #lrnchat
05:21:25 pm simbeckhampson: @JaneBozarth What's a kegger? #lrnchat
05:21:25 pm baldgeekinmd: Loving the #lrnchat conversation stream!
05:21:26 pm tisfortraining: Loving the #lrnchat conversation stream!
05:21:31 pm DLHansby: Who is paying the bill? That dictates a lot of design & content. #lrnchat
05:21:41 pm LandDDave: I think both academia and corporate suffer from teachers who think it's about what they know. #lrnchat
05:21:47 pm Quinnovator: @jclarey and, conversely, more office parties in academia? #lrnchat
05:21:49 pm jonll: catching up on the conversation at #lrnchat
05:21:53 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @jclarey: Q2) More keggers needed in corporations #lrnchat
05:22:16 pm SueSchnorr: @Quinnovator yes, but too often, it's the process/ not the trainer that chooses the smile sheet. #lrnchat
05:22:18 pm hjames: @Quinnovator smile sheets!! aack! #lrnchat
05:22:22 pm tonya_simmons: good smile sheets = your students like you, but did they learn, I learned the most in college from the profs i hated #lrnchat
05:22:31 pm jclarey: RT @Quinnovator: @jclarey and, conversely, more office parties in academia? #lrnchat (so more cupcakes)
05:22:45 pm kelly_smith01: More keggers in #lrnchat #lrnchat
05:22:46 pm cynan_sez: @janebozarth more keggers? elearning = the real Revenge Of The Nerds #lrnchat
05:23:06 pm z_rose: RT @LandDDave: I think both academia and corporate suffer from teachers who think it's about what they know. #lrnchat
05:23:34 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @simbeckhampson: @JaneBozarth What's a kegger? #lrnchat (( it can quench the thirst with beer and sometimes cocktails…fun for all!))
05:23:37 pm janwebb21: Blog post – change and immune response – http://bit.ly/cXTN72 #edchat #lrnchat
05:23:39 pm SueSchnorr: @ kelly_smith01 Does the afternoon group drink?
More keggers in #lrnchat #lrnchat
05:23:56 pm Quinnovator: @jclarey sounds like boring office parties if you're only serving cupcakes!😉 #lrnchat
05:23:59 pm tonya_simmons: mostly because those were the profs that made me work! #lrnchat
05:24:06 pm tisfortraining: RT @DLHansby: Who is paying the bill? That dictates a lot of design & content. #lrnchat
05:24:09 pm simbeckhampson: @Mary_a_Myers Thanks Mary😉 #lrnchat
05:24:12 pm baldgeekinmd: RT @DLHansby: Who is paying the bill? That dictates a lot of design & content. #lrnchat
05:24:17 pm LandDDave: There's cake in the conference room… Now with keggers! #lrnchat
05:24:19 pm tisfortraining: RT @LandDDave: I think both academia and corporate suffer from teachers who think it's about what they know. #lrnchat
05:24:23 pm baldgeekinmd: RT @LandDDave: I think both academia and corporate suffer from teachers who think it's about what they know. #lrnchat
05:24:26 pm briggzay: q2) having done skill-based corp and skill and theory-based uni inst., i'd say generalizing is unhelpful. Seen better/worse both #lrnchat
05:24:37 pm odguru: RT @simbeckhampson: @JaneBozarth Whats a kegger? << A shaker, a party, a doo named for a Keg of Beer. (College sized amounts) #lrnchat
05:24:42 pm simbeckhampson: @Quinnovator cupcakes laced with… #lrnchat
05:24:53 pm DLHansby: Who is paying the bill? That dictates a lot. #lrnchat
05:25:25 pm Quinnovator: that's the problem with the early session for me, 9AM is a bit early for the Official #lrnchat Drinking Game: http://bit.ly/15pp1
05:25:39 pm JaneBozarth: @cynan_sez Ha! yes. And how are you, sir? #lrnchat
05:26:00 pm simbeckhampson: @odguru Thank you (must be a US expression) haven't heard that one before – but got it now… #lrnchat
05:26:00 pm odguru: RT @simbeckhampson: @Quinnovator cupcakes laced with… EXPERENTIAL learning. which can mean a few different things. #lrnchat
05:26:18 pm jclarey: Kegger=drink until intoxicated, throw up, and brag about it in class the next day..then post the photos on FB #lrnchat
05:26:20 pm tonya_simmons: RT @jclarey: Q2) stop charging me an arm and a leg for text book uni…put it online -AMEN! #lrnchat
05:26:32 pm Quinnovator: kegger=college way of leveling the playing field, certain individual voluntarily kill brain cells by convening around keg of beer #lrnchat
05:26:39 pm simbeckhampson: @Quinnovator never stopped you before (so I heard)😮 #lrnchat
05:27:21 pm kelticray: RT @briggzayq2) Seen better/worse both #lrnchat I agree!
05:27:45 pm jclarey: RT @odguru: RT @simbeckhampson: @Quinnovator cupcakes laced with…EXPERENTIAL learning. which can mean a few different things. #lrnchat : )
05:27:47 pm kelly_smith01: RT @kelly_smith01: New mesage: TweetChat and / or Twitter is super sick. #lrnchat
05:28:01 pm JaneBozarth: Kegger= party involving beer in kegs. Maybe togas, too. Cupcakes: Really? You don't call them that in UK? @c4lpt, help me out? #lrnchat
05:28:15 pm billcush: Tonight. #lrnchat or Celts-Cavs or both? Hmmmm.
05:28:21 pm LandDDave: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @kelly_smith01: New mesage: TweetChat and / or Twitter is super sick. #lrnchat
05:28:45 pm briggzay: q2) IMHO, linking higher-order reasoning to practical skills as much as possible is key in both corporate and academic instruction #lrnchat
05:28:51 pm Quinnovator: @simbeckhampson I categorically deny any such allegations (and what scandalous rumor monger are you listening to?) #lrnchat
05:28:56 pm simbeckhampson: @JaneBozarth In the Uk it's called a piss up ! (sorry, but it is) #lrnchat
05:29:08 pm SueSchnorr: @billcush You can handle both, no problem! #lrnchat
05:29:15 pm visualrinse: Academic ID – learning to learn Corporate ID – learning to do #lrnchat
05:29:23 pm tonya_simmons: don't forget, a kegger also involves handing over your $5 to someone at the door & getting your plastic cup #lrnchat
05:29:25 pm millennial_ID: i think it's time for Q3…?? #lrnchat
05:29:36 pm kelly_smith01: RT @briggzay: q2) IMHO, linking higher-order reasoning to practical skills as much as possible is key in both corporate & academic #lrnchat
05:29:51 pm simbeckhampson: @Quinnovator🙂 #lrnchat
05:30:08 pm SueSchnorr: OK, early #lrnchatters, I have to run Duty calls, I have to take a client call. Thanks for letting me play. #lrnchat
05:30:25 pm tonya_simmons: @simbeckhampson I think that's a rather more accurate description of what goes on🙂 #lrnchat
05:30:33 pm z_rose: RT @visualrinse: Academic ID – learning to learn Corporate ID – learning to do #lrnchat
05:30:43 pm kelticray: #lrnchat Is anyone else thankful that when we were in school, facebook and cameras on cell phones didn't exist?
05:30:53 pm c4lpt: What do we call "cupcakes" in UK? #lrnchat Anybody? Don't say cupcakes!
05:30:54 pm jonll: too many keggers causes #lrnchat to spill into the gutter🙂
05:30:57 pm cynan_sez: @lrnchat all this talk of beer (at 1730 local) is putting my further participation in today's #lrnchat in jeopardy
05:31:14 pm usablelearning: I > practical skills.. key in both corporate and academic instruction #lrnchat (definitely!)
05:31:55 pm TerrenceWing: Grt point via @moehlert If orgs r using email, they have an existing SoMe strategy & should liberate emps #lrnchat #astd
05:31:57 pm simbeckhampson: Corporate’s focus = Maximise Profit Academic’s focus = Maximise Knowledge #lrnchat
05:32:25 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What could both corporate and academic ID still improve on? #lrnchat
05:32:38 pm simbeckhampson: @tonya_simmons …crude I know, but sometimes simple language is better understood🙂 #lrnchat
05:32:42 pm cclarke: newbie alert. #lrnchat/
05:32:48 pm Quinnovator: @z_rose you’re absolutely right. Guess what, *you* can edit it, be my guest! #lrnchat
05:32:51 pm LandDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What could both corporate and academic ID still improve on? #lrnchat
05:33:04 pm kelticray: #lrnchat Q3) better design that matched the objectives. Why do the really cool looking training courses suck when it comes to development?
05:33:11 pm jclarey: wordle cloud for Q2 http://bit.ly/aNupHt #lrnchat
05:33:33 pm jonll: Q3) half of my classes in college were taught by TAs because the profs had to ‘publish or perish’ #lrnchat
05:33:41 pm Quinnovator: Q3) both could improve on meaningful application in objective and assigment #lrnchat
05:33:45 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) Academia: Help learners to focus on application of all that “stuff” for higher order problem solving & application #lrnchat
05:34:08 pm tonya_simmons: Q3) for corp. – less PPT conversion and more activities to engage/apply skills #lrnchat
05:34:17 pm jonll: Q3) and half my corp training is taught by consultants who don’t really understand the co/culture/objective with canned matls #lrnchat
05:34:40 pm kelticray: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What could both corporate and academic ID still improve on? #lrnchat
05:35:14 pm cynan_sez: @z_rose calling ppl ‘digital natives’ doesn’t go down well in my shop…. we use ‘digital innovator’ #lrnchat #postcolonial
05:35:22 pm jclarey: Q3) (a) put more theory into practice in corporation…or at least know it (b) pride in craft, i.e. give a damn #lrnchat
05:35:23 pm janet_frg: RT @c4lpt: What do we call “cupcakes” in UK? Anybody? Don’t say cupcakes! < Fairy Cakes, I believe. Clearly I am missing a fun #lrnchat
05:35:45 pm LauraLJ: #lrnchat too many educators ac or Corp just chalk and talk (deathbypowerpoint) students need to do and think – help them
05:35:45 pm jseevers: RT @lrnchat Q3) What could both corporate & academic ID still improve on? // Better context setting b4 learning content. IMHO #lrnchat
05:35:51 pm Quinnovator: @z_rose ok, I added, thanks, good suggestion #lrnchat
05:35:52 pm c4lpt: RT: @laura_dickson: @c4lpt Fairy Cakes? #lrnchat
05:35:56 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @simbeckhampson: Corporate's focus = Maximise Profit Academic's focus = Maximise Knowledge #lrnchat
05:36:04 pm Quinnovator: @z_rose and I think you have to *drink*😉 #lrnchat
05:36:15 pm c4lpt: RT: @deerwood: @c4lpt We just call them 'cakes', possibly 'fairy cakes', unless yr in Yorkshire where they call them 'buns' #lrnchat
05:36:16 pm wordwealthy: @kelticray I totally agree. I think that is the challenge for both – how to blend great design with great dev/learning outcomes! #lrnchat
05:36:25 pm simbeckhampson: Q3) Corporate focus more on skills relevant to working practices – Academic focus more on context for entering Enterprise #lrnchat
05:36:38 pm millennial_ID: Q3) both need to better understand the objectives they're training/teaching towards. LOVE this video: http://bit.ly/9yeQiN #lrnchat
05:36:48 pm drtimony: Q3) part of the current task has to include prep for the next task. Sequencing is key. #lrnchat
05:37:54 pm mbr1online: Q3. Both academia and corporation need to focus on learning by doing and less lecture #lrnchat
05:37:56 pm Quinnovator: Q3) both could stand to focus more on model-based thinking, more explication of thinking processes, and more meaningful practice #lrnchat
05:38:13 pm cynan_sez: @lrnchat Q3) corp: stop reinventing wheels just to be able to own it, patent, sell it. academe: invent some new wheels #chalkntalk #lrnchat
05:38:22 pm Quinnovator: Q3) or another way to put it: both could stand to recognize how learning *really* works #lrnchat
05:38:36 pm simbeckhampson: Mmm… hot cross buns, 1 a penny, 2 a penny, hot cross buns…🙂 #lrnchat
05:38:53 pm c4lpt: "Cupcakes" = Fairy Cakes or "buns" if you are in Yorkshire #lrnchat Thx to all tweeters who responded
05:38:58 pm simbeckhampson: RT @mbr1online: Q3. Both academia and corporation need to focus on learning by doing and less lecture #lrnchat < Agree…
05:39:16 pm amphiboly: @Quinnovator "Q3) both could improve on meaningful application in objective and assigment" #lrnchat Agree – learn, do, reflect!
05:41:18 pm lmccune: RT @lrnchat Q3) What could both corporate & academic ID still improve on? // Both-personalized intervention. #lrnchat
05:41:33 pm odguru: RT @cynan_sez: Q3) corp: stop reinventing wheels just 2b able to own, patent, sell it. academe: invent some new wheels #chalkntalk #lrnchat
05:41:52 pm mbr1online: Most of what I learned in school was outside the classroom. #lrnchat
05:42:09 pm simbeckhampson: @jclarey Innovation and creativity workshops much needed… use twitter for chats such as… #lrnchat
05:42:17 pm amphiboly: @DrTimony “Q3) part of the current task has to include prep for the next task. Sequencing is key.” #lrnchat <– And context
05:42:37 pm kelticray: #lrnchat link that highlights by example why knowing good grammar makes you look more credible http://is.gd/c7DxS Would you believe her?
05:42:42 pm rosamariatorres: Diff academic/corporate instuctional design RT @simbeckhampson Corporate focus=Maximise PROFIT /Academic focus=Maximise KNOWLEDGE #lrnchat
05:42:53 pm simbeckhampson: @marloft reflect, yes… spaced reflection builds retention #lrnchat
05:43:21 pm cynan_sez: @lmccune <— hear hear Q3) both: personalized intervention #lrnchat
05:43:47 pm wordwealthy: So true! RT @mbr1online: Most of what I learned in school was outside the classroom. #lrnchat
05:43:50 pm kelticray: RT @mbr1online Q3. Both academia and corporation need to focus on learning by doing and less lecture #lrnchat Maybe by more blended lrn?
05:45:02 pm simbeckhampson: RT @mbr1online: Most of what I learned in school was outside the classroom. #lrnchat >Yorkshire or Ireland!🙂
05:49:02 pm pgsimoes: RT @mbr1online: Most of what I learned in school was outside the classroom. #lrnchat
05:49:13 pm StephanieDaul: RT @mbr1online: both academia and corp need to marry frml in infrml learning – move away from course focus < bacehlor of journalism, I used it for a while then decided I like to eat
05:54:37 pm hjames: @kelticray on friday gave an ignite talk about what i learned in artschool; which prepared me for… this! guess i do use my degree #lrnchat
05:54:58 pm masondan: Frightening question. RT @kelticray: #lrnchat How many of you are using your degree?
05:55:02 pm StephanieDaul: @kelticray Undergrad in Elem Ed, MA in Instruction Design so yes and no #lrnchat
05:55:31 pm Quinnovator: that time already? thanks to new and returning participants for another great #lrnchat!
05:55:44 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, North Texas, ISD Consultant – learning and researching elearning & mlearning #lrnchat
05:55:47 pm kelticray: RT @millennial_ID @marloft – who is doing better? from what i hear, academia. corp have made prog. #lrnchat Agree
05:55:52 pm simbeckhampson: Better question would be… would you be doing what your doing today without your degree? #lrnchat
05:56:03 pm wordwealthy: @mbr1online Not only did I learn from mentors but made cross-disciplinary connections/insights outside of classroom setting. #lrnchat
05:56:04 pm hjames: Qwrap) aww… it’s over already?! #lrnchat more about me: http://heather.drupalgardens.com/ open source, learning, techie
05:56:05 pm marloft: RT @mbr1online: @wordwealthy yes. In grad school I learned most from being mentored by my professors. #lrnchat >>Agree.
05:56:33 pm JaneBozarth: Raleigh, NC. Trainer, ID-er, Author. Raleigh NC USA.Distracted today, I’m afraid, by side convos about cupcakes and keggers #lrnchat
05:56:55 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, elearning strategy consultant, learning experience design author/speaker, genial malcontent, blogger at learnlets.com #lrnchat
05:57:01 pm tonya_simmons: Tonya Goth Simmons, production designer, Phasient Learning Technologies, http://bit.ly/qSxMf, check us out at ASTD in Chicago #lrnchat
05:57:02 pm c4lpt: @Qwrap) Jane Hart, sorry for lack of tweets today – had probs with Twitter – see you next week #lrnchat
05:57:03 pm millennial_ID: Yep! And would have more experience by now! @simbeckhampson: would you be doing what your doing today without your degree? #lrnchat
05:57:23 pm michaelbtw: ‘Shai Reshef presenting the new online edu University Of the People at Harvard University’. http://bit.ly/a8yrY1 #lrnchat
05:57:24 pm jonll: Curious if academia by its very nature provide the opportunity to take more risk with learning design? #lrnchat
05:57:35 pm TrivWorks: @lrnchat TrivWorks is a live trivia entertainment company in #nyc, http://TrivWorks.com – looking forward to the upcoming #lrnchat!
05:57:43 pm kelticray: Q4) Donna Bailey–soon to be branching out on her own–keep you posted. thanks for a great #lrnchat everyone!
05:57:47 pm JaneBozarth: Plug: New blog offering reviews of classic books from the L&D literature. Chime in: http://trainingbookreview.com/ #lrnchat
05:57:59 pm simbeckhampson: Paul Simbeck-Hampson, Consultant, http://www.simbeckhampson.com > thanks tweeps, enjoyable as always🙂 #lrnchat
05:58:26 pm cindyhugg: RT @JaneBozarth New blog offering reviews of classic books from the L&D literature. Chime in: http://trainingbookreview.com/ #lrnchat
05:58:28 pm JaneBozarth: First review today: Zemke & Kramlinger “Figuring Things Out” http://trainingbookreview.com/ #lrnchat
05:58:40 pm millennial_ID: Qwrap) Christina Stephenson, Instructional Designer, Orange County, CA http://bit.ly/9UnJjn #lrnchat
05:58:49 pm jonll: jon lloyd, learning strategy, customer training, channel readiness, learning P&L businesses – thanks #lrnchat!
05:58:50 pm StephanieDaul: Stephanie Daul, Instructional Designer, Chicago – See some of you at ASTD ICE #lrnchat
05:59:02 pm Rsuominen: Thanks for #lrnchat. Riitta Suominen from Tampere, Finland – eTeacher, Course Designer, Writer, eLearning Consultant.
05:59:23 pm simbeckhampson: RT @JaneBozarth: Plug: New blog offering reviews of classic books from L&D lit. Chime in: http://trainingbookreview.com/ #lrnchat
05:59:25 pm millennial_ID: Thanks all for today’s chat – I don’t know much about the academia ID world so it was very interestng!! #lrnchat
05:59:26 pm ken_highered: ‘Shai Reshef presenting the new online edu University Of the People at Harvard University’. http://bit.ly/a8yrY1 #lrnchat /via @michaelbtw
05:59:29 pm Rustici_Susan: RT @simbeckhampson: Better question would be… would you be doing what your doing today without your degree? #lrnchat
05:59:34 pm cynan_sez: @lrnchat Cynan. elearning evangelizer, intl NGO. hosting a conference on elearning in INGOs. Oxford 17-18 June. DM/msg me 4 info. #lrnchat
06:00:46 pm lrnchat: Thank you for joining us on #lrnchat. Please tell us if you blog about the conversation so we can link to it on http://lrnchat.com

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