Transcript 6 May 2010 (late)

08:30:00 pm Quinnovator: Incoming! About to fill the tweether with #lrnchat. Duck, or, better yet, join us!
08:30:52 pm SueSchnorr: #lrnchat at 8:30 ET. Theme: LMS- lessons learned, what would you tell your boss, would you do it again #lrnchat Join in if you like
08:30:56 pm Schnicker: Heading in to #lrnchat now… Excuse my tweets for a bit!
08:31:21 pm JaneBozarth: Here we go. I’ve been away for weeks… hold on! #lrnchat
08:31:52 pm JoanVinallCox: Starting a learning flood of Tweets for this week’s #lrnchat
08:31:56 pm ileducprof: RT @cybraryman1: Busy chat night: #onecom #innochat #SAchat #artsed #lrnchat #BlackEd Ed Chats: http://bit.ly/7w7P59
08:31:58 pm lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1) Introduce yourself (we’ll do this again at the end): Location? Focus? Favorite topics?
08:32:17 pm dbolen: time for loads of tweets tonight – LMS #lrnchat #lrnchat
08:32:28 pm tigerlily300: #lrnchat is starting. Please excuse all the tweets. Come join us if you like!
08:32:42 pm lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been? Q0 warm up after the rules.
08:33:17 pm JaneBozarth: ID-er, Train-er, Auth-er, Doct-er of Learnin’ Stuff #lrnchat
08:33:18 pm lrnchat: 2) Try to stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 20 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
08:33:55 pm lrnchat: 3) Write complete thoughts to help followers outside #lrnchat learn from you.
08:34:16 pm JoanVinallCox: Joan Vinall-Cox, Oakville, Ontario, web & learning, learning about how humans currently learn using the web #lrnchat
08:34:23 pm ADDIE_ID: Hi, I’m ADDIE, undead. #lrnchat
08:34:39 pm britz: 1) Mark Britz, Syracuse NY/ performance improvement specialist #lrnchat
08:34:43 pm ThomasStone: Thomas Stone, from Element K in Rochester, New York. Hello everyone in #lrnchat this evening!
08:34:44 pm tigerlily300: Kathy J, instructional designer, Georgia. #lrnchat
08:34:57 pm hjarche: Listening to John Taylor Gatto (live) in fine form – will join #lrnchat on completion
08:35:01 pm jkunrein: Judy Unrein in Kansas City… I make stuff that helps people learn. #lrnchat
08:35:10 pm cybraryman1: I am a Twitterbrarian, now from Florida, who collects gr8 sites to add to my collection of ed sites. Constantly learning & sharing. #lrnchat
08:35:16 pm TriciaRansom: Tricia in Chicago: learner of learning #lrnchat
08:35:19 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, elearning strategist, learning experience design instigator, genial malcontent, doer/sharer Walnut Creek CA #lrnchat
08:35:19 pm JaneBozarth: I’ve been fine. Vacationing, ho-hum.#lrnchat
08:35:35 pm jsuzcampos: Q0) Jeannette Campos, Red Sox Nation, Just someone else who’s running on the gerbil this week. #lrnchat
08:35:37 pm Schnicker: Nicole Fougere, friendly blogger at Litmos LMS, expecting to be somewhat in the line of fire tonight :o) – Auckland, NZ #lrnchat
08:35:39 pm odguru: @JaneBozarth Welcome back! #lrnchat
08:35:47 pm lrnchat: 4) Remember to include #lrnchat in all posts or use a tool like http://tweetchat.com or http://tweetgrid.com
08:36:02 pm kelly_smith01: lurking in many industries as a performance improvement consultant. Mostly in Texas – but will travel #lrnchat
08:36:06 pm Quinnovator: welcome to new and returning #lrnchat folks! we’ll be rockin’ (or rockin’ the boat) on LMS
08:36:12 pm nickjhowe: Q0: VP of Learning at Hitachi Data Systems. Interested in all aspects of corporate training and learning. #lrnchat/
08:36:20 pm skluczny13: Shannon Kluczny, St. Louis, MO, VP of co in the training, LMS field #lrnchat
08:36:24 pm jsuzcampos: Q0) Jeannette Campos, Red Sox Nation, Just someone else who is running on the gerbil WHEEL this week. #lrnchat
08:36:32 pm buschtk: Tina Busch – ATL
#lrnchat
08:36:35 pm ADDIE_ID: Request from the undead RE full disclosure: If you are an LMS vendor, please identify yourself as such? #lrnchat
08:36:41 pm lrnchat: 5) Periodically RT questions so those outside #lrnchat know what we’re talking about & so they can contribute too.
08:36:57 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman, e-Learning Designer in Baltimore, MD. LMS user and a love-hate relationshp w SCORM #lrnchat
08:36:59 pm dbolen: Don Bolen learning strategist, PM, ATL, 2002 global LMS implementation survivor #lrnchat
08:37:19 pm ADDIE_ID: @schnicker Thx for telling you’re in the LMS biz #lrnchat
08:37:28 pm billcush: Bill Cushard. Charlotte, NC . Tryin to keep up with demand. #lrnchat
08:37:51 pm lrnchat: 6) On #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm & irony welcome though. Really.
08:37:54 pm JaneBozarth: @odguru Thank you! Really would have dropped in last week but connectivity in SXM is maddening #lrnchat
08:38:13 pm TriciaRansom: Hey Bill. Will be in your state this weekend #lrnchat
08:38:21 pm lrnchat: 7) 10 min before end, reintroduce yourself. Links & requests (or shameless plugs) welcome, too #lrnchat
08:38:25 pm magdaZINE: Heading into #lrnchat for a spell. Sorry for extra tweets, or come join us at tweetchat.com lrnchat
08:38:29 pm ThomasStone: @buschtk Hi Tina… great to see you here on #lrnchat
08:38:44 pm Schnicker: @ADDIE_ID No prob, I’m always here. It’s just not always so relevant #lrnchat
08:39:00 pm billcush: What color ribbon for that? RT @dbolen: Don Bolen learning strategist, PM, ATL, 2002 global LMS implementation survivor #lrnchat
08:39:01 pm JaneBozarth: @TriciaRansom I’m in NC, too. Where will you be? #lrnchat
08:39:09 pm lrnchat: Q1) What are lessons learned about LMSs? #lrnchat
08:39:11 pm odguru: Christy Pettit – learner, Guelph, Canada #lrnchat
08:39:39 pm jkunrein: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are lessons learned about LMSs? #lrnchat
08:39:42 pm billcush: @TriciaRansom Then you will be here the perfect time of year. Enjoy. #lrnchat
08:39:56 pm magdaZINE: Information, instruction, and interaction design and dev. Been away for awhile because business is booming. #lrnchat
08:40:01 pm TriciaRansom: @JaneBozarth Chapel Hill – hubby’s son graduating with MBA from UNC #lrnchat
08:40:05 pm skluczny13: Q1) you only get out of them what you put into them #LMS #lrnchat
08:40:07 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are lessons learned about LMSs? #lrnchat
08:40:32 pm TWRCtankcom: RT @GaryBrannigan: Good lessons leave students thinking and talking after the formal presentation #lrnchat
08:40:37 pm JaneBozarth: @magdaZINE Glad to hear it. Things seem to be picking up. First house in a year sold in our neighborhood this week #lrnchat
08:40:42 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are lessons learned about LMSs? #lrnchat
08:40:52 pm magdaZINE: Rolling your own is expensive RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are lessons learned about LMSs? #lrnchat
08:40:59 pm Quinnovator: and don’t forget the Official #lrnchat Drinking Game ™: http://lrnchatdrinkinggame.wikispaces.com/
08:41:01 pm cybraryman1: RT @skluczny13: Q1) you only get out of them what you put into them #LMS #lrnchat
08:41:03 pm buschtk: governance up front is KEY for enterprise implementations #lrnchat
08:41:05 pm ThomasStone: Q0: Learned I get a warm fuzzy feeling when I see a David Allen GTD flowchart hanging over a colleague’s desk. #lrnchat #gtd
08:41:12 pm Mary_a_Myers: missing #lrnchat for what seems like the millionth week. tonight it’s hockey. 7 yr-old habs fan won’t go to sleep. have fun all!
08:41:12 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are lessons learned about LMSs? #lrnchat
08:41:12 pm JaneBozarth: @TriciaRansom I’m there–Durham on Orange Co border. Talk later? #lrnchat
08:41:21 pm JaneBozarth: @lrnchat: Q1) What are lessons learned about LMSs? #lrnchat
08:41:35 pm ADDIE_ID: Q1 We learned that “learning” can’t be measured #lrnchat
08:41:38 pm hjarche: My name is Harold and I used to sell learning management systems😦 #lrnchat
08:41:46 pm nickjhowe: Q1: Lessons learned from LMS’s? almost too many to list, but will try. #lrnchat/
08:41:54 pm minutebio: RT @skluczny13: Q1) you only get out of them what you put into them #LMS #lrnchat
08:42:00 pm cammybean: Hey #lrnchat. Cammy Bean. Still wrangling kids to bed. Talk more about LMSs these days than I used to…(have never used one myself!)
08:42:13 pm Quinnovator: Q1) LMSs are ‘enablers’ for thinking that all learning is formal, and ignoring the rest of the performance suite #lrnchat
08:42:13 pm jkunrein: that should make 2nite interesting… RT @Quinnovator: and dont forget the Official #lrnchat Drinking Game ™ #lrnchat
08:42:13 pm magdaZINE: @JaneBozarth I also moved back to Los Angeles. Lots of work in SoCal area. #lrnchat
08:42:14 pm JaneBozarth: Q1 Colleagues learned of hidden costs, like upgrades that cost as much as the procuct #lrnchat
08:42:15 pm billcush: Q1) Lessons from LMS implementation. Know what you really want. Start simple. Don’t over customize. Get core functionality right. #lrnchat
08:42:15 pm ThomasStone: Q0: Also learned that the The Economist magazine’s audio team is outstanding — could pronounce that Iceland volcano’s name! LOL #lrnchat
08:42:19 pm JoanVinallCox: Q1 Early WebCT, good lrning group, & students allowed me to learn how to use the web to add to class lrning experience & outcome #lrnchat
08:42:28 pm marciamarcia: Marcia Conner, #lrnchat founder, could have made a career of cleaning up LMS messes, here tonight to listen. Ppl prevail.
08:42:29 pm cybraryman1: Q1 For teachers developers of LMS must work directly with them & not surprise them. #lrnchat
08:42:39 pm Quinnovator: RT @hjarche: My name is Harold and I used to sell learning management systems😦 #lrnchat < need the 9 step program!
08:42:45 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) The LSM has many strengths must be strong-armed if you want it to provide opportunities for others to learn. #lrnchat
08:42:46 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) Need lots of up front decisions: structure, use, purpose #lrnchat
08:42:49 pm SueSchnorr: RT @hjarche: My name is Harold and I used to sell learning management systems😦 #lrnchat
08:42:55 pm JaneBozarth: @hjarche Hi Harold! That's ok. #lrnchat
08:43:11 pm dbolen: Q1 IT and corp support req'd, configure don't customize #lrnchat
08:43:12 pm ajaystwtr: #lrnchat is on!
08:43:22 pm tigerlily300: Q1) Lesson learned about a LMS: It's just a tool, not a magic bullet. #lrnchat
08:43:25 pm dwilkinsnh: David Wilkins, VP of Product Marketing, Learn.com — bracing myself and taking Valium in anticipation of tonight's #lrnchat… ; )
08:43:38 pm midquel: Sorry for joining late – Q1) LMS lesson– Some seem to think having one is enough for learning to magically happen #lrnchat
08:43:52 pm cammybean: Q1) Lessons learned about LMS: Seems to mostly be used as a portal. Many orgs just need a way to launch courses. #lrnchat
08:43:56 pm Schnicker: RT @tigerlily300: Q1) Lesson learned about a LMS: It's just a tool, not a magic bullet. #lrnchat
08:43:59 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) Try out free samples b4 implementation. #lrnchat
08:44:00 pm JaneBozarth: Q1 Read article — will find it, maybe Brandon Hall, that avg shelf life of LMS is 4 years. #lrnchat
08:44:16 pm ADDIE_ID: Q1 State of VA bought LMS, then laid off training office. #lrnchat
08:44:21 pm skluczny13: RT @billcush: Q1) Lessons from LMS implement. Know what you want. Start simple. Dont over customize. Get core functionality right. #lrnchat
08:44:34 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) Lessons learned about the LMS. Maybe we don't need one after all? #lrnchat
08:44:38 pm magdaZINE: RT @cammybean: Q1) Lessons learned about LMS: Seems to mostly be used as a portal. Many orgs just need a way to launch courses. #lrnchat
08:44:39 pm dbolen: RT @tigerlily300: Q1) Lesson learned about a LMS: Its just a tool, not a magic bullet. Amen, it's a tool #lrnchat
08:44:43 pm courosa: Can worthwhile learning really be managed through some sort of system? Bah. #lrnchat
08:44:44 pm hjarche: @JaneBozarth Listening to John Taylor Gatto: I realize what a screwed up system we have inherited & continue to use: schooling #lrnchat
08:44:56 pm Quinnovator: Q1) LMS key capabilities: hosting access to courses, tracking usage #lrnchat
08:44:57 pm JoanVinallCox: After using LMS as a scaffold for lrning how to use the web for lrning, dropped it for wikis & blogs – better for students' future #lrnchat
08:45:03 pm minutebio: Q1) My experience has bn orgs with robust LMSs do nt use all it has and those with bare bones LMS push 2 fullest extent #lrnchat
08:45:04 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Learned that an LMS is a bit like that really really big plane that Howard Hughes built — Gr8 concept but execution?

#lrnchat
08:45:05 pm JaneBozarth: @skluczny13 LIke the 'don't overcustomize" admonishment #lrnchat
08:45:07 pm nickjhowe: Q1: Don't customize!!! Seems like a good idea now; will kill you in the long run. Work w/the vendor to build yr needs into product #lrnchat/
08:45:13 pm ThomasStone: Q1: Identify what your true needs are for LMS, and then find one that will fulfill those at reasonable cost and time to implement. #lrnchat
08:45:16 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) Lower expectations, start small, build. Drive traffic to it once de-bugged, not before!! #lrnchat
08:45:19 pm JaneBozarth: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) Try out free samples b4 implementation. #lrnchat
08:45:30 pm britz: Q1. LMS DO NOT manage learning …they manage content, courses, etc
#lrnchat
08:45:40 pm skluczny13: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) Try out free samples b4 implementation. #lrnchat
08:45:44 pm jkunrein: Q1) they can measure how much training has occurred, but rarely used to measure how much learning has occurred #lrnchat
08:45:44 pm JaneBozarth: RT @cammybean: Q1) Lessons learned about LMS: Seems to mostly be used as a portal. Many orgs just need a way to launch courses. #lrnchat
08:46:01 pm nickjhowe: Q1: data integrity and consistency is essential if you are going to use for decision support. Pay attention to data cleanup. #lrnchat/
08:46:03 pm hjarche: The LMS is modern equiv to the institutional school – it's all about control of the masses #lrnchat
08:46:10 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @britz: Q1. LMS DO NOT manage learning …they manage content, courses, etc #lrnchat
08:46:12 pm TriciaRansom: This tip from @joe_deegan: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) Try out free samples b4 implementation. #lrnchat
08:46:20 pm Quinnovator: Q1) tho' making learner go to LMS isn't learner centric; should be integrated into learner's dashboard. #lrnchat
08:46:20 pm JaneBozarth: A-men. RT @billcush Know what you want #lrnchat
08:46:21 pm cammybean: Q1) Lessons learned: Moodle now represents 20% of the corporate LMS market according to elrng guild research http://bit.ly/9MVNhO #lrnchat
08:46:23 pm dwilkinsnh: Q1) Lessons learned on LMS – most orgs don't use even half of what leading LMS's are capable of… #lrnchat
08:46:24 pm odguru: RT @nickjhowe: Dont customize!!! good idea now; will kill you in the long run. Work w/the vendor to build yr needs into product #lrnchat
08:46:24 pm midquel: Agreed, good for authenticating users. RT @magdaZINE: RT @cammybean: Q1)Seems to mostly be used as a portal. #lrnchat
08:46:38 pm Quinnovator: LMS shouldn't be a learner-facing interface #lrnchat
08:46:44 pm JaneBozarth: Q1) Beware heated seats. #lrnchat
08:46:46 pm TriciaRansom: @nickjhowe Oh the joys of data cleanup! #lrnchat
08:46:48 pm midquel:🙂 RT @jsuzcampos: Q1) Lessons learned about the LMS. Maybe we don't need one after all? #lrnchat
08:46:49 pm Quinnovator: RT @jkunrein: Q1) they can measure how much training has occurred, but rarely used to measure how much learning has occurred #lrnchat
08:46:54 pm nickjhowe: Q1: simplify the user interface as much as possible. Make it easy for learners to find your offerings and register. #lrnchat/
08:47:09 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Hi all! Sorry I'm late!
08:47:18 pm jkunrein: @cammybean Yes often just used as a portal, and a bad one at that. Too many clicks between the learner and the content. #lrnchat
08:47:19 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Try to crash the LMS during UAT #lrnchat
08:47:19 pm cammybean: @dwilkinsnh So maybe the leading LMS's should be slimming down? #lrnchat
08:47:21 pm buschtk: use with customers/partners (extended enterprise) to offset expenses #lrnchat
08:47:25 pm ThomasStone: esp. when compliance a requirement RT @Quinnovator: Q1) LMS key capabilities: hosting access to courses, tracking usage #lrnchat
08:47:26 pm JoanVinallCox: Students liked LMS at first because info available 24/7 #lrnchat
08:47:26 pm minutebio: RT @nickjhowe: Q1: simplify the user interface as much as possible. Make it easy for learners to find your offerings and register. #lrnchat
08:47:26 pm tigerlily300: Q1) Easy to get caught up in bigger package. LMS + talent mgmt + HR, on and on. Seems like they should fit nicely but don't quite. #lrnchat
08:47:37 pm JaneBozarth: @dwilkinsnh That's true of almost everything. MS study: 9 of 10 users of Office products ask for features that are already there. #lrnchat
08:47:39 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Did I miss the part where we decide that LMSs aren't relevant and move on?
08:47:42 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) Can ease the formal learning experience by providing a standard entry method/interface #lrnchat
08:47:46 pm kelly_smith01: RT @nickjhowe: Q1: simplify the user interface as much as possible. Make it easy for learners to find your offerings and register. #lrnchat
08:47:50 pm JaneBozarth: @dwilkinsnh And how are YOU tonight, anyway, sir? #lrnchat
08:47:59 pm Quinnovator: LMS *part* of a performance ecosystem strategy, not the *center* of it! (thanks, @hjarche: http://bit.ly/cbMjXF ) #lrnchat
08:48:07 pm nickjhowe: Q1: if multiple business units, don't pander to unique requirements. Force conformity. You'll be glad you did. #lrnchat/
08:48:09 pm dwilkinsnh: @cammybean alternately, orgs should consider scaling up… ; ) #lrnchat
08:48:10 pm JaneBozarth: RT @nickjhowe: Dont customize!!! good idea now; will kill you in the long run. Work w/the vendor to build yr needs into product #lrnchat
08:48:11 pm cammybean: @moehlert Welcome to Mr. Smartass!
#lrnchat
08:48:19 pm billcush: Q1) LMS lessons…don't think what I need is so special. We all think our needs are soooo special. #lrnchat
08:48:32 pm ADDIE_ID: See @c4lpt on transition to post LMS world http://bit.ly/cixwdy #lrnchat
08:48:34 pm buschtk: collaboration’ system vs. a ‘learning’ system – RT @jaycross: What is the future of the LMS? http://post.ly/enuJ #in #lrnchat
08:48:36 pm magdaZINE: Q1)They often only support/deliver 1 type of media. Can't extend to mobile,podcasts, etc. #lrnchat
08:48:38 pm skluczny13: RT @ThomasStone: Q1: Identify what your needs , and then find one that will fulfill those @ reasonable cost and time to implement. #lrnchat
08:49:01 pm dwilkinsnh: @JaneBozarth Very true. Also true of CRM and ERP. #lrnchat
08:49:11 pm JoanVinallCox: Have heard from outside my institution, LMS used to codify what teachers can cover, esp. in courses with many sections. PRISON #lrnchat
08:49:15 pm tigerlily300: Q1) Almost seems to encourage the mindset of box checking. Went to course. Check. Passed assessment. Check. Etc. #lrnchat
08:49:20 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1) Beware heated seats. #lrnchat < "Why don't we weigh the students and report on a cost per pound?" Gloria Gery
08:49:23 pm moehlert: @cammybean #lrnchat
08:49:25 pm cammybean: @dwilkinsnh Start ’em small and simple and let them scale over time as they get comfortable with what they got… #lrnchat
08:49:26 pm mctoonish: RT @courosa: Can worthwhile learning really be managed through some sort of system? Bah. #lrnchat
08:49:34 pm billcush: RT @tigerlily300: Q1) Easy to get caught up in bigger package. LMS + talent mgmt + HR, on and on. #lrnchat
08:49:36 pm dwilkinsnh: @JaneBozarth Trying to stay calm… ; ) LOL. How about you? #lrnchat
08:49:41 pm JaneBozarth: @TriciaRansom And from book “Elearning Solutions on a Shoestring” by, oh look! Author is @janebozarth ! #lrnchat
08:50:03 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Prefer a Content Management System #lrnchat
08:50:05 pm bearclau: just remembered it was #lrnchat night. i think i’ll join the party
08:50:06 pm Quinnovator: RT @moehlert: #lrnchat Did I miss the part where we decide that LMSs aren’t relevant and move on? Scope creeps right over the budget of time, money, and patience! #lrnchat
08:53:17 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone Nuh, uh, they did not. #lrnchat
08:53:18 pm cammybean: We do a lot of Moodle LMSs for the corporate market…http://www.slideshare.net/steverayson/moodle-in-the-enterprise-overview #lrnchat
08:53:29 pm cnagel: Just joining in at #lrnchat for my tweeps, I’ll be posting messages regarding the chat topic for the next hour or so.
08:53:33 pm kelly_smith01: RT @billcush: Q1) LMS Lesson: Scope creep. —> Never ending revisions, never ending process flows #lrnchat
08:53:47 pm TriciaRansom: @skluczny13 EKP…was eyeing Moodle b4 I got laid off #lrnchat
08:54:18 pm Quinnovator: @dwilkinsnh reckon center is a social system that allows integration of courses, resources, and collab #lrnchat
08:54:23 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Link: http://bit.ly/bbLGiW ..add in some tracking and…i mean LMS,explain to me how its not just a database with a front end?
08:54:25 pm nickjhowe: Q1: Whichever vendor you choose, you’ll never be happy. It is software, after all. Remember the grass is always greener #lrnchat/
08:54:31 pm kelly_smith01: cammybean We do a lot of Moodle LMSs for the corporate market…http://bit.ly/dfgqGb #lrnchat
08:54:35 pm JaneBozarth: Q1) Re heated seats:Don’t confuse features with benefits. Know what U need and buy what does that — don’t get talked into add-ons #lrnchat
08:54:36 pm audioswhite: #lrnchat Stephen White typing slo on phone q1) system for managing training across ent. ESP compliance shdnt b used to just serve elearning
08:54:42 pm minutebio: RT @britz: when do you say “hey we need an LMS?” // When the auditors ask “Shows us reports for all compliance courses” #lrnchat
08:54:55 pm jkunrein: Q1) lesson learned — in some companies, there is a LOT of misunderstanding about the meaning of open source! #lrnchat
08:54:58 pm Quinnovator: @dwilkinsnh confess I blogged it today: http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=1537 #lrnchat
08:55:15 pm cnagel: Hi #lrnchat, Cyndi arriving to chat a little late. I am a Training Manager for a Retailer. I’m in Foothill Ranch CA. Ready to hear about LMS
08:55:22 pm britz: RT @cammybean: We do a lot of Moodle LMSs for the corporate market…/lord knows I tried Mrs. Bean…I tried… #lrnchat
08:55:28 pm nickjhowe: Q1: Use all the functionality. Most good LMS’s handle certification, compliance, different delivery types. You bought it; use it! #lrnchat/
08:55:38 pm billcush: Gold Star. RT @JaneBozarth: Q1) Know what U need and buy what does that — don’t get talked into add-ons #lrnchat
08:55:41 pm profgesser: Q1) began learning the value of aggregation #lrnchat
08:55:50 pm JaneBozarth: @jkunrein Right on misunderstanding of open source #lrnchat
08:55:54 pm cammybean: @kelly_smith01 I’m not trying to be a broken record or anything today…:) #lrnchat
08:56:00 pm Quinnovator: @moehlert yeah, but really, isn’t everything a database with a front-end? #lrnchat
08:56:15 pm cammybean: @britz Mrs. Bean? Who’s that? #lrnchat
08:56:17 pm TriciaRansom: RT @nickjhowe: Q1: Whichever vendor u choose, u’ll never be happy -its only software. grass is always greener #lrnchat <-so true! #lrnchat
08:56:18 pm audioswhite: RT @nickjhowe: Q1: Whichever vendor you choose, you'll never be happy. It is software, after all. Remember the grass is always greener #lrnchat/
08:56:20 pm xpconcept: Q1) Selecting based on 'features' of what folks think they need (common) inferior to selection based on what they'll actually use. #lrnchat
08:56:25 pm odguru: RT @JaneBozarth: @jkunrein Right on misunderstanding of open source #lrnchat
08:56:26 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) LMS must adapt to future learnin' tools — Mobile Devices, Ipad, and anything else S, Jobs and others think of #lrnchat
08:56:34 pm dwilkinsnh: @Quinnovator But it doesn't exist yet. No "social system" tracks courses at anywhere near the level necessary for most orgs. #lrnchat
08:56:45 pm JaneBozarth: RT @moehlert #lrnchat http://bit.ly/bbLGiW ..add in some tracking — LMS,explain to me how its not just a database with a front end?
08:56:52 pm moehlert: @Quinnovator Exactly, in one sense, so why do we buy into LMSs being different or special? #lrnchat
08:56:56 pm nickjhowe: Q1: LMS's are a necessary evil in today's world of compliance and for-profit training. Wish I didn't need one, but I do #lrnchat/
08:57:02 pm profgesser: Q1) learn essence of content management, but don't let the architecture hinder what your content development #lrnchat
08:57:13 pm minutebio: RT @kelly_smith01: LMS must adapt to future learnin tools — Mobl Devices, Ipad, and anything else S, Jobs and others think of #lrnchat
08:57:29 pm buschtk: When upgrades/new features come out, get them! How many orgs implement the LMS and then don't adopt new functionality as available #lrnchat
08:57:36 pm minutebio: RT @nickjhowe: Q1: LMSs -a necessary evil in todays world of compliance and for-profit training. Wish I didnt need one, but I do #lrnchat
08:57:43 pm Schnicker: Agreed RT @kelly_smith01: Q1) LMS must adapt to future learnin' tools–Mobile Devices, Ipad & anything else S Jobs/others think of #lrnchat
08:57:52 pm nickjhowe: Q1: You get out what you put in. And that applies to your vendor relationship too. I love my LMS, and my vendor😉 #lrnchat/
08:58:06 pm xpconcept: Q1) We bought among cheapest lms' on the market at the time as a holdover for a more featured system. 7 yrs ago… still going. #lrnchat
08:58:16 pm profgesser: RT @kelly_smith01 Q1) LMS must adapt to future learnin' tools — Mobile Devices, Ipad, and anything else<–totally agree #lrnchat
08:58:17 pm Quinnovator: @moehlert agreed; LMS not different or special, a tool to achieve certain goals. Magic is in the people, not the tools! #lrnchat
08:58:21 pm JaneBozarth: Apparently @thomasStone never saw the "Ribbon Sucks" poll http://twtpoll.com/zlv3l0 #lrnchat
08:58:46 pm nickjhowe: Q1: if you avoid customization, upgrades are cheap, easy and you always benefit from newest features #lrnchat/
08:59:01 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) Make good friends w/the vendor's help desk/contact person! (esp. for us non-techies) #lrnchat
08:59:10 pm reward75: Hi everyone, dinner ran late, gonna lurk while I finish my project #lrnchat
08:59:14 pm cammybean: True Confession: I have never logged onto an LMS as an actual user. Who else? #lrnchat
08:59:21 pm Schnicker: Nice! RT @nickjhowe: Q1 You get out what you put in. & that applies to your vendor relationship too. I love my LMS & my vendor😉 #lrnchat
08:59:23 pm ThomasStone: RT @dwilkinsnh: @Quinnovator But it doesn't exist yet. No "social system" tracks courses @ anywhere near level nec for most orgs #lrnchat
08:59:24 pm billcush: If you were starting from scratch…would you build content first, LMS first, or both at same time? #lrnchat
08:59:44 pm JaneBozarth: @dwilkinsnh But…but… why are we still tracking courses? #lrnchat
08:59:47 pm Quinnovator: @dwilkinsnh that's my prob: reckon tracking courses is a minor thing, not a major thing. Tracking *outcomes*… #lrnchat
08:59:57 pm reward75: Regina Ward, NYC, will be free from the tyranny in two weeks🙂 #lrnchat
09:00:07 pm nickjhowe: Q1: remember – the main reason for the LMS is to make learning available to students!!! Easy to forget. #lrnchat/
09:00:14 pm cammybean: @Schnicker You must be @nickjhowe 's vendor🙂 #lrnchat
09:00:15 pm Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: Q1) LMS must adapt to future tools — Mobile, Ipad, and anything else S, Jobs and others think of #lrnchat < guilty!
09:00:17 pm billcush: Smart. RT @xpconcept: Q1) bought among cheapest LMS as a holdover for a more featured system. 7 yrs ago… still going. #lrnchat
09:00:18 pm jkunrein: i wish!🙂 RT @cammybean: True Confession: I have never logged onto an LMS as an actual user. Who else? #lrnchat
09:00:23 pm TriciaRansom: @billcush You can develop ppl w/content and no LMS. Can't do that with LMS and no content #lrnchat
09:00:31 pm magdaZINE: Q1) Isn't an LMS just a glorified spreadsheet? #lrnchat
09:00:45 pm profgesser: Q1) with soc/semantic web, use of LMSs should be integrated for real world use..why ask students to use it when gone in 4 yrs?#lrnchat
09:00:46 pm smitty1966: Jeff Smith – Director Technology – @EduPros, dropping in late #lrnchat
09:00:52 pm billcush: Giddy Up! RT @nickjhowe: Q1: if you avoid customization, upgrades are cheap, easy and you always benefit from newest features #lrnchat/
09:00:52 pm buschtk: I sign in all the time and do design reviews in the LMS – get end user experience and alter as needed #lrnchat
09:00:53 pm jkunrein: RT @TriciaRansom: @billcush You can develop ppl w/content and no LMS. Cant do that with LMS and no content #lrnchat
09:00:53 pm skluczny13: RT @nickjhowe Q1: remember – the main reason for the LMS is to make learning available to students!!! Easy to forget. #lrnchat
09:01:05 pm Quinnovator: RT @billcush: If starting from scratch…would you build content first, LMS first, or both at same time? #lrnchat < social insfrastructure
09:01:07 pm audioswhite: I have but not as tester not user RT @cammybean: True Confession: I have never logged onto an LMS as an actual user. Who else? #lrnchat
09:01:14 pm minutebio: RT @JaneBozarth: @dwilkinsnh But…but… why are we still tracking courses? // If assmnts r valid can track/eval level 2 #lrnchat
09:01:16 pm kelly_smith01: @reward75 Congrats on finishing and/or being done with semester #lrnchat
09:01:19 pm TriciaRansom: Fed compliance, management comfort zones. RT @JaneBozarth: @dwilkinsnh But…but… why are we still tracking courses? #lrnchat
09:01:23 pm Schnicker: @cammybean I'm not! But we have a lot of customers who feel like that🙂 it's nice to know there's others out there! #lrnchat
09:01:34 pm audioswhite: #lrnchat make that AS tester not user
09:01:40 pm tigerlily300: @billcush You'll never finish developing content (or find new approaches to delivering content). Maybe I'm misunderstanding your ? #lrnchat
09:02:00 pm jkunrein: yes but with LMS, you can develop REPORTS! @billcush You can develop ppl w/content and no LMS. Cant do that with LMS and no content #lrnchat
09:02:00 pm ADDIE_ID: @magdaZINE Yes. LMS is just a glorified spreasheet. #lrnchat
09:02:11 pm xpconcept: Q1) org has spent 1000x more $$ studying alternatives and fighting over new LMS implementation than we spent on the original lms. #lrnchat
09:02:12 pm PLC_Next: RT @PLC_Next: The Paradigm Paradox In Professional Learning Communities http://post.ly/f5SN #edchat #lrnchat
09:02:19 pm minutebio: RT @TriciaRansom: Fed compliance, management comfort zones. RT @JaneBozarth: @dwilkinsnh But… why are we still tracking courses? #lrnchat
09:02:21 pm gfriese: @cammybean now that I think of it not sure if I have been in an LMS as a user #lrnchat
09:02:21 pm profgesser: Q1) an LMS type of system can generally be created with tools already available, open, and free..LMS too heavy on structure #lrnchat
09:02:23 pm moehlert: @magdaZINE In short, yes. #lrnchat
09:02:36 pm moehlert: @magdaZINE Not even very glorified. #lrnchat
09:02:40 pm ThomasStone: @JaneBozarth Sure some hate Ribbon. But once used to it, do 9/10 still not find features? I doubt that. #lrnchat
09:02:44 pm dwilkinsnh: @Quinnovator tracking courses is (but it's also irrelevant right.?) It's the other 99% that will take yrs to replicate #lrnchat
09:02:51 pm JaneBozarth: @TriciaRansom Then shouldn't we call it a compliance tracking system? It ain't about "learning" #lrnchat
09:02:52 pm smitty1966: Yes as a user. Only for testing. RT @cammybean: True Confession: I have never logged onto an LMS as an actual user. Who else? #lrnchat
09:02:53 pm nickjhowe: @dwilkinsnh @Quinnovator If they aren't the center, what is? Learner is the center! #lrnchat/
09:02:58 pm profgesser: btw, Chad Gesser-Assistant Prof of Sociology #lrnchat
09:03:34 pm Aaron_Eyler: Your directions on assignments are useless for YOU and THEM: http://bit.ly/b34CyP #edchat #lrnchat #gifted
09:03:34 pm kelly_smith01: Content can take so many froms, formats, have different "life" spans, – LMS must adapt to all these #lrnchat
09:03:39 pm moehlert: @cammybean I have. I came out unchanged. Well, little more bitter. #lrnchat
09:03:40 pm reward75: @kelly_smith01 Thanks! This actually the end of the long journey, no more semesters #lrnchat
09:03:41 pm TriciaRansom: @JaneBozarth Prolly, but learning sounds better than compliance #lrnchat
09:03:46 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @profgesser: Q1) an LMS type of system can generally be created with tools already available, open, and free..LMS too heavy on structure #lrnchat
09:03:53 pm billcush: Ah ha. RT @Quinnovator would you build content first, LMS first, or both at same time? #lrnchat < social insfrastructure
09:04:05 pm magdaZINE: @moehlert Q1) Many people who are in charge of corporate "training" seem to like them. (As well as spreadsheets) #lrnchat
09:04:12 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone Well, if 89% = 'some'. And not in my world on the features. #lrnchat How are you, anyway?
09:04:26 pm jkunrein: RT @JaneBozarth: @TriciaRansom Then shouldnt we call it a compliance tracking system? It aint about "learning" #lrnchat
09:04:27 pm dbolen: RT @jkunrein: yes but with LMS, you can develop REPORTS! @billcush You can develop ppl w/content and no LMS. that's the reality
#lrnchat
09:04:29 pm xpconcept: << hates logging into the LMS as well. It's a barrier. Hate logging into the intranet portal as well. Feel the same way. Buried… #lrnchat
09:04:32 pm skluczny13: RT @kelly_smith01 Content can take so many froms, formats, have different "life" spans, – LMS must adapt to all these #lrnchat
09:04:39 pm TriciaRansom: I'm curious about Q2? #lrnchat
09:04:55 pm ADDIE_ID: I WISH learner was the center @nickjhowe #lrnchat
09:04:57 pm Quinnovator: RT @nickjhowe: @dwilkinsnh @Quinnovator If they aren't the center, what is? Learner is the center! #lrnchat
09:05:21 pm kelly_smith01: An LMS is an exec dash board for the training department. Execs dig exec dashboards #lrnchat
09:05:42 pm TriciaRansom: ohhh, Captain James. T. Kirk is fighting for my attention! #lrnchat
09:05:49 pm dwilkinsnh: Been in charge of lrning products for yrs, including LMS. Functionality is there because clients need it, not because vendor. #lrnchat
09:06:06 pm Quinnovator: @dwilkinsnh point: formal learning only one leg of performance ecosystem: LMS *can't* (and shouldn't) be *center* #lrnchat
09:06:06 pm reward75: My two cents – LMS is good for tracking completion, but lulls people into thinking learning occurred #lrnchat
09:06:16 pm billcush: @tigerlily300 If implement LMS then build content, I pay for empty LMS. If reverse, will never know if anyone completed training. #lrnchat
09:06:31 pm TriciaRansom: RT @kelly_smith01: An LMS is an exec dash board for the training department. Execs dig exec dashboards #lrnchat
09:06:31 pm kelly_smith01: RT @reward75: My two cents – LMS is good for tracking completion, but lulls people into thinking learning occurred #lrnchat
09:06:40 pm moehlert: @magdaZINE Exactly. Because what they're really in charge of is corporate 'compliance' ..not training #lrnchat
09:06:43 pm Schnicker: We avoided calling Litmos an 'LMS' for the longest time, until we realised it's just what people know. Semantics. #lrnchat
09:06:44 pm xpconcept: Q1) A tag line for a pm i know 'Turning red lights to green since 200x' <- that's what LMS' do… Sad but true. #lrnchat
09:06:51 pm tigerlily300: RT @Quinnovator: @dwilkinsnh point: formal learning only one leg of performance ecosystem: LMS *cant* (and shouldnt) be *center* #lrnchat
09:06:56 pm nickjhowe: Q1: LMS is a means to an end, not an end in itself. #lrnchat/
09:07:12 pm billcush: @tigerlily300 On other hand..who cares if I know whether people complete training…if performance increases…I should be cool. #lrnchat
09:07:17 pm SueSchnorr: RT @reward75: My two cents – LMS is good for tracking completion, but lulls people into thinking learning occurred #lrnchat
09:07:17 pm britz: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @reward75: My .02 – LMS is good for tracking completion, but lulls people into thinking learning occurred #lrnchat
09:07:20 pm JaneBozarth: @TriciaRansom I loaded the Qs myself. Q2 supposed to post at 9:06 ET. Should be coming up #lrnchat
09:07:30 pm JaneBozarth: RT @reward75: My two cents – LMS is good for tracking completion, but lulls people into thinking learning occurred #lrnchat
09:07:37 pm profgesser: Q1) for my entirely online classes I find an LMS simply the way to go #lrnchat
09:07:54 pm TriciaRansom: @JaneBozarth okie dokie #lrnchat
09:07:58 pm tigerlily300: @billcush I'd go for reverse. Don't want an empty shell, if it learning happened and we didn't track it–not so tragic to me!🙂 #lrnchat
09:08:06 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat Q2) What would you tell your boss about the LMS implementation? #lrnchat
09:08:14 pm Quinnovator: RT @reward75: My two cents – LMS is good for tracking completion, but lulls people into thinking learning occurred #lrnchat
09:08:17 pm billcush: That's want management wants. RT @jkunrein: yes but with LMS, you can develop REPORTS! #lrnchat
09:08:20 pm lrnchat: Q2) What would you tell your boss about the LMS implementation? #lrnchat
09:08:22 pm ThomasStone: @JaneBozarth 89% of somewhat self-selecting, very small pool of people (56) who responded. Not exactly a robust, scientific survey! #lrnchat
09:08:26 pm dwilkinsnh: @Quinnovator That assumes that formal learning is all LMS's do which is false. COD, Saba, Learn.com (me), do *way* more than formal #lrnchat
09:08:41 pm billcush: But hopefully automated. RT @magdaZINE: Q1) Isn't an LMS just a glorified spreadsheet? #lrnchat
09:08:41 pm nickjhowe: RT @xpconcept: Q1) org has spent 1000x more $$ studying alts and fighting over new LMS impl'n than we spent on the orig. lms. #lrnchat
09:09:05 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What would you tell your boss about the LMS implementation? #lrnchat
09:09:08 pm minutebio: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @reward75: LMS good fr tracking comp, but lulls peeps in2 thinking learning / True, bt designers fault nt LMS #lrnchat
09:09:13 pm ThomasStone: @JaneBozarth Don't have refs, but I've seen data showing increase in the use of breadth of features once people learned 2007 ed. #lrnchat
09:09:15 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone More than your survery, though. And PS: I know you are, but what am I? #lrnchat
09:09:16 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What would you tell your boss about the LMS implementation? #lrnchat
09:09:23 pm dwilkinsnh: I think anyone who thinks LMS is only about formal needs to take a new look at the market. Srsly. #lrnchat
09:09:53 pm ADDIE_ID: Q2) Would tell boss the 1990s are over. Time to move to next thing. #lrnchat
09:09:53 pm Quinnovator: @xpconcept good point. So, what *would* you want to login to? Custom Portal? Community? ? #lrnchat
09:10:01 pm smitty1966: Content is key. Good learning design is critical. Technology opens it up. LMS should not be closed, needs to be porous .#lrnchat
09:10:07 pm hjarche: @dwilkinsnh How much of LMS is about actually doing work? #lrnchat
09:10:11 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) LMS, LMS? We do not need any stinking LMS. Stick to a CMS. #lrnchat
09:10:11 pm moehlert: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What would you tell your boss about the LMS implementation? #lrnchat
09:10:12 pm TWgy: RT @Quinnovator: RT @reward75: My two cents – LMS is good for tracking completion, but lulls people into thinking learning occurred #lrnchat
09:10:24 pm jkunrein: @profgesser Chances are, you are using an LCMS, which is very different in terms of usefulness for a class. And both are useful. #lrnchat
09:10:41 pm idarknight: RT @hjarche: The LMS is modern equiv to the institutional school – it's all about control of the masses #lrnchat
09:10:41 pm jkunrein: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What would you tell your boss about the LMS implementation? #lrnchat
09:10:44 pm ADDIE_ID: Q2) Be sure all resources not be poured into LMS w/ nothing left for content. #lrnchat
09:10:45 pm nickjhowe: @profgesser: Q1) an LMS type of system can be created with tools already available, open, and free..But who wants to do that? #lrnchat
09:10:50 pm hjarche: Is it possible to get work done without an LMS? #lrnchat
09:10:56 pm billcush: Q2) Tell boss about LMS implementation Patience is a virtue. Bosses love to hear that. #lrnchat
09:10:57 pm JaneBozarth: RT @hjarche: @dwilkinsnh How much of LMS is about actually doing work? #lrnchat
09:11:04 pm skluczny13: Q2) depends on goals outlined for the project- problem is the ones implementing often dont understand the purpose #lrnchat
09:11:32 pm minutebio: Q2) I don't tell the boss anything until implementation is over #lrnchat
09:11:39 pm dwilkinsnh: I support resellers & sales team in shared portal that includes forums, chat, video, audio, ratings, feeds, comments *and* formal #lrnchat
09:11:43 pm Quinnovator: @dwilkinsnh I don't want to do away with LMS, but the question is, what's the right DNA for the infrsatructure? #lrnchat
09:12:05 pm billcush: @tigerlily300 That's what I think too. #lrnchat
09:12:22 pm xpconcept: @Quinnovator #lrnchat. I'd prefer not to log in and drill down in a tool. If it's important to me it shouldn't (won't) be in the haystack.
09:12:22 pm kelly_smith01: Curses. That dern ADDIE_ID is back. #lrnchat
09:12:36 pm minutebio: Q2) It is also important to tell the users abt implementation. And get input prior to. #lrnchat
09:12:36 pm JaneBozarth: Hey excuse me I have a question! #lrnchat
09:12:38 pm tigerlily300: <– Doesn't really get Q2. #lrnchat
09:12:40 pm Quinnovator: @dwilkinsnh what I mean: some tools come from learn management, some from content management, some social network. What's *right*? #lrnchat
09:12:42 pm dwilkinsnh: And that portal is our platform. I can't do that in Jive. Can't do that via collection of federated apps. Needs to be a center. #lrnchat
09:12:42 pm doktadivah: Splitting attention right now between #BlackEd and #lrnchat
09:12:46 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) Telling boss re LMS implementation: Why do u want one? And how do u want it: faster, better, cheaper? #lrnchat
09:12:52 pm ThomasStone: RT @dwilkinsnh: I think anyone who thinks LMS is only about formal needs to take a new look at the market. Srsly. #lrnchat
09:12:52 pm Schnicker: Lots of you build content- at the end of the day the LMS delivers & tracks how ppl interact w/ your content. Content is boss in LMS #lrnchat
09:13:11 pm hjarche: If org has to make decision on which to let go, is it Sharepoint (which I dislike) or LMS? Think I know answer #lrnchat
09:13:21 pm dwilkinsnh: @hjarche how much of social media is? #lrnchat
09:13:38 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What would you tell your boss about the LMS implementation? #lrnchat
09:13:39 pm jkunrein: Q2) it needs to do more than you think it does. #lrnchat
09:13:46 pm smitty1966: My clients don't focus on the LMS, they focus on the learning design. Tell their boss to write the cheque! Its in the can. #lrnchat
09:13:47 pm skluczny13: Q2) BOSS should be involved in implementation!!! #lrnchat
09:14:10 pm xpconcept: @Quinnovator #lrnchat – by same token I want the tools to do what they do well. Not as a bolt on and a 'we do that too' like most i've seen.
09:14:17 pm billcush: We did it before LMSs. Maybe LMS real value in automation of tracking. RT @hjarche: Is it possible to get work done without an LMS? #lrnchat
09:14:22 pm moehlert: @JaneBozarth yes? #lrnchat
09:14:37 pm profgesser: .@nickjhowe good point..but why teach and train students to use something that they can't take with them? after school, bye bye LMS #lrnchat
09:14:42 pm billcush: Just get it done. RT @minutebio: Q2) I don't tell the boss anything until implementation is over #lrnchat
09:14:54 pm JoanVinallCox: @nickjhowe I Always use freely available tools – student may use them in future, but not CMS #lrnchat
09:14:54 pm dwilkinsnh: When you find information to successfully do your job *wherever it comes from*, it helps you do your job, right? Formal included. #lrnchat
09:15:06 pm moehlert: @hjarche is is possible to learn w/out an ISD?😉 #lrnchat
09:15:08 pm hjarche: @dwilkinsnh for me, Soc Media gets work done #lrnchat
09:15:09 pm ADDIE_ID: @kelly_smith01 Well goodness that's not very nice. What'd I do? #lrnchat
09:15:12 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) We need more user input, communications, IT support, and testing 4 compatibility w/existing courses, records #lrnchat
09:15:13 pm billcush: Too often true…RT @skluczny13: Q2) …problem is the ones implementing often dont understand the purpose #lrnchat
09:15:16 pm ThomasStone: @dwilkinsnh Echoing Dave, we (Element K) integrated Jive's social tools into our LMS offering in Sept. 2008. Update views of mrkt! #lrnchat
09:15:21 pm JaneBozarth: @moehlert Why isn't anyone drinking? #lrnchat
09:15:31 pm nickjhowe: Q2: it's a necessary evil, but it keeps the auditors happy🙂 #lrnchat/
09:15:49 pm JaneBozarth: RT @xpconcept: #lrnchat – I want the tools to do what they do well. Not as a bolt on and a 'we do that too' like most i've seen.
09:15:51 pm abhijitkadle: RT @dwilkinsnh: I think anyone who thinks LMS is only about formal needs to take a new look at the market. Srsly. #lrnchat
09:15:59 pm hjarche: @moehlert absolutely impossible! #lrnchat
09:16:07 pm TriciaRansom: Yeah, isn't there a game 4 2nite? RT @JaneBozarth: @moehlert Why isnt anyone drinking? #lrnchat
09:16:11 pm nickjhowe: Q2) Look what a great job our training department is doing. We've trained all these people. :0 #lrnchat/
09:16:15 pm profgesser: Q2) train, upgrade, train, upgrade..robust prof dev opportunities..funnel resources appropriately #lrnchat
09:16:16 pm jsuzcampos: @JaneBozarth Ah, I'm drinking … just not playing … It's been that kind of week! #lrnchat
09:16:19 pm smitty1966: RT @billcush: Too often true…RT @skluczny13: Q2) …problem is the ones implementing often dont understand the purpose #lrnchat
09:16:22 pm drukid: Q2) I like to show screen captures or screencasts of phased projects. I'd rather answer ?s than comments in text. #lrnchat
09:16:22 pm kelly_smith01: Sorry boss, I had my vacation scheduled during the LMS implementation. Sorry
#lrnchat
09:16:23 pm JaneBozarth: RT @nickjhowe: Q2: it's a necessary evil, but it keeps the auditors happy🙂 #lrnchat /
09:16:39 pm nickjhowe: Q2: I'm sorry the LMS user interface sucks so badly. It will be a lot better in the next release. #lrnchat/
09:16:40 pm Quinnovator: Q2) tell boss that the formal learning folks are using, and it's integrated into custom performer portals so invisible to rest #lrnchat
09:16:44 pm tigerlily300: RT @nickjhowe: Q2) Look what a great job our training department is doing. Weve trained all these people. :0 #lrnchat/ #lrnchat
09:16:48 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @profgesser: .@nickjhowe good point..but why teach and train students to use something that they can't take with them? after school, bye bye LMS #lrnchat
09:16:58 pm SueSchnorr: @JaneBozarth @moehlert – and why hasn't anyone debated about ADDIE yet?🙂 #lrnchat
09:17:16 pm JaneBozarth: @jsuzcampos Oh that's good. I conducted several experiments with fortified Jell-O while on vacation. #lrnchat
09:17:22 pm dwilkinsnh: @hjarche So why don't blogging tools, wikis, discussions, ratings and reviews, soc networking in an LMS count then? #lrnchat
09:17:23 pm odguru: RT @jsuzcampos: @JaneBozarth Ah, Im drinking … just not playing … Its been that kind of week!<Ditto #lrnchat
09:17:24 pm hjarche: @billcush sounds like Google Analytics #lrnchat
09:17:30 pm nickjhowe: RT @reward75: My .02 – LMS is good for tracking completion, but lulls people into thinking learning occurred #lrnchat So true
09:17:32 pm profgesser: .@Schnicker I found myself spending so much time on learning the tech that I didn't have time for content dev #lrnchat
09:17:49 pm edwsonoma: RT @dwilkinsnh: I really think anyone who thinks LMS is only about formal needs to take a new look at the market. Srsly. #lrnchat
09:17:50 pm JaneBozarth: @SueSchnorr Well the night is young. It's bound to come up. #lrnchat
09:17:51 pm ThomasStone: @Quinnovator Let's say 2 vendors, one social pedigree, one LMS pedigree, end up with same featureset. Is the former somehow better? #lrnchat
09:17:58 pm hjarche: @SueSchnorr 'cause ADDIE is already dead😉 #lrnchat
09:18:02 pm drukid: Q2…sometimes involving users dulls innovation. You end up 'pefecting the past'. #lrnchat
09:18:07 pm JaneBozarth: RT @hjarche: @billcush sounds like Google Analytics #lrnchat
09:18:10 pm Quinnovator: RT @dwilkinsnh: support resellers & sales in shared portal including forums, chat, vid, aud, ratings, feeds, comments *and* formal #lrnchat
09:18:12 pm billcush: Ha! RT @nickjhowe: Q2) Look what a great job our training department is doing. We've trained all these people. :0 #lrnchat/
09:18:22 pm dwilkinsnh: @hjarche Because the other model, rebuilding LMS functionality in Jive-like systems is yrs away. Other option is ElementK route. #lrnchat
09:18:34 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) Told my boss truth: saved hours/week in admin work, but took months to set up and still too much power for our needs #lrnchat
09:18:45 pm hjarche: @dwilkinsnh issue for me is why do I have to "go into" the LMS to do my work? #lrnchat
09:18:45 pm kelly_smith01: @ADDIE_ID Oh. I am so intimidated by the fact that ADDIE is always there. And so powerful. I do respect U. #lrnchat
09:18:45 pm JaneBozarth: @dwilkinsnh One more place to go. That's not where my PLN is. #lrnchat
09:18:50 pm profgesser: .@JoanVinallCox kudos, that's exactly where I'm coming from #lrnchat
09:18:57 pm TriciaRansom: Is this Ricardo Montalban on Star Trek?!?! #lrnchat
09:19:06 pm Quinnovator: RT @dwilkinsnh: that portal is our platform. Can't do that in Jive. Can't do that via federated apps. Needs a center. #lrnchat
09:19:10 pm JaneBozarth: RT @profgesser: I found myself spending so much time on learning the tech that I didn't have time for content dev #lrnchat
09:19:32 pm Schnicker: It pains me to hear so many ppl still struggling w/ nasty UI, expensive upgrades & clunky systems -it doesn't HAVE to be that way! #lrnchat
09:19:43 pm SueSchnorr: @hjarche. lol. btw, who IS ADDIE_ID and why is he green!? #lrnchat
09:19:49 pm odguru: The system I have mirrors a social site.Your center =your profile; community ctr = feeds and discussion. Can track butts if need #lrnchat
09:19:57 pm jsuzcampos: Q2) What I told my boss: The LMS could have done more for us (tabulating, enrolling, etc) but it couldn't change learning quality #lrnchat
09:20:05 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) Told boss we need to find a way to make the LMS invisible to end-users with no IT headaches/bugs/glitches #lrnchat
09:20:13 pm nickjhowe: Q1: Just because it says it is SCORM compliant…. #lrnchat/
09:20:18 pm billcush: OK..my head is spinning like a top. GOOG analytics…no LMS? RT @JaneBozarth: RT @hjarche: @billcush sounds like Google Analytics #lrnchat
09:20:18 pm ADDIE_ID: Lately I've just been lurking. Wouldn't you rather know I'm here? #lrnchat
09:20:27 pm moehlert: @JaneBozarth Who said I wasn't? I wanna know, tell me… #lrnchat
09:20:30 pm hjarche: @dwilkinsnh Hey Dave, I'm not trying to beat on you – really – lots of pragmatic options, depending on varying contexts #lrnchat
09:20:31 pm Quinnovator: @ThomasStone depends on learner experience, to me. Features are only an indicator. Whichever focuses on enabling work! #lrnchat
09:20:31 pm cammybean: @JaneBozarth I'm not drinking, but I am eating honeynut cheerios. That's how I whoop it up these days. #lrnchat
09:20:49 pm JaneBozarth: RT @jsuzcampos:Q2) Told boss: LMS could have done more for us (tabulating, enrolling, etc) but it couldn't change learning quality #lrnchat
09:20:53 pm lrnchat: Q3) How might you *not* use an LMS? #lrnchat
09:21:02 pm profgesser: .@hjarche I tend to agree..soc media allowing folks to turn Internet into an enormous learning space #lrnchat
09:21:10 pm profgesser: RT @TriciaRansom: Q2) We need more user input, communications, IT support, and testing 4 compatibility w/existing courses, records #lrnchat
09:21:20 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How might you *not* use an LMS? #lrnchat
09:21:23 pm jkunrein: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How might you *not* use an LMS? #lrnchat
09:21:26 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth quietly sobbing into my beer every time I type 'LMS' #lrnchat
09:21:32 pm billcush: Google Analytics? RT @lrnchat: Q3) How might you *not* use an LMS? #lrnchat
09:21:39 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How might you *not* use an LMS? #lrnchat
09:21:49 pm cammybean: I want to know how long a 'typical' LMS implementation takes. From we signed up for this to the first user live… #lrnchat
09:21:53 pm dbolen: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How might you *not* use an LMS? #lrnchat
09:21:58 pm smitty1966: 100% agree! RT @profgesser: .@hjarche I tend to agree..soc media allowing folks to turn Internet into an enormous learning space #lrnchat
09:22:11 pm ADDIE_ID: @SueSchnorr We Udead usually don't have very good color. #lrnchat
09:22:13 pm hjarche: Q3 – yes, I might not use an LMS #lrnchat
09:22:14 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How might you *not* use an LMS? #lrnchat
09:22:15 pm petersonandrew: #lrnchat it is useless to try and please everyone.
09:22:15 pm KoreenOlbrish: Sorry I'm missing tonight; Tandemites on the town in Denver! #lrnchat
09:22:23 pm cammybean: Q3) I would not use an LMS as a tea caddy.
#lrnchat
09:22:26 pm dwilkinsnh: @hjarche No worries Harold. You know I love you guys. I just think LMS is actually very underrated in terms of value delivered. #lrnchat
09:22:26 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) Don't let learners think that the LMS is the only way to access, validate, or track learning #lrnchat
09:22:32 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @profgesser: .@hjarche I tend to agree..soc media allowing folks to turn Internet into an enormous learning space #lrnchat
09:22:44 pm jsuzcampos: Q3) I would *not* use an LMS as an auto-pilot instructional environment, solo learning event, or surrogate for learning #lrnchat
09:22:44 pm TriciaRansom: RT @JaneBozarth RT @jsuzcampos Q2) Told boss LMS couldve done more (tabulating, enrolling, etc) but couldnt change learning quality #lrnchat
09:22:45 pm xpconcept: Q3) To hold non-tracked content bhnd a login. As a repository for PDF's, powerpoints, and anything else that'll fit in the bucket. #lrnchat
09:22:47 pm ADDIE_ID: @SueSchnorr That's "Undead" #lrnchat
09:22:59 pm profgesser: RT @hjarche: @dwilkinsnh issue for me is why do I have to "go into" the LMS to do my work? #lrnchat
09:23:16 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How might you *not* use an LMS? #lrnchat
09:23:21 pm Schnicker: Q3) Not use an LMS as the sole form of learning/training/whatever in your organization #lrnchat
09:23:23 pm petersonandrew: #lrnchat our faculty use the traditional method of not using the LMS by not using it
09:23:24 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @hjarche: Q3 – yes, I might not use an LMS #lrnchat
09:23:35 pm jsuzcampos: @dwilkinsnh Agree, I have actually done tremendous things with Bb, it just takes time and creativity. Very SoMe, very interactive. #lrnchat
09:23:37 pm Quinnovator: RT @hjarche: @dwilkinsnh not trying to beat on you – really – lots of options, depending on varying contexts #lrnchat < what he said
09:23:38 pm hjarche: @dwilkinsnh now that's a business proposition🙂 #lrnchat
09:23:40 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @cammybean: Q3) I would not use an LMS as a tea caddy.
#lrnchat
09:23:43 pm JaneBozarth: @hjarche LOL #lrnchat
09:23:44 pm SueSchnorr: @ADDIE_ID…. ahhh, I don't think you're dead, ADDIE, just misunderstood!🙂 #lrnchat
09:24:02 pm Quinnovator: @KoreenOlbrish anyone warn the national guard? #lrnchat
09:24:06 pm profgesser: .@Schnicker you're right, just use Google Apps!😉 #lrnchat
09:24:07 pm billcush: Q3) Not use LMS…suspend belief that we have to track training. #lrnchat
09:24:09 pm TriciaRansom: ours about 1 yr w/out glitches RT @cammybean: how long typical LMS implementation takes from we signed up 4 this 2 first user live #lrnchat
09:24:12 pm JaneBozarth: Ruh-roh. Thunderstorm. (Literal, as in outside, not figurative, as in #lrnchat).
09:24:21 pm moehlert: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How might you *not* use an LMS? #lrnchat
09:24:33 pm JaneBozarth: IS Blackboard an LMS? #lrnchat
09:24:48 pm jsuzcampos: ps … saw mini- @dwilkinsnh in the school hallway yesterday🙂 #lrnchat
09:24:56 pm JaneBozarth: RT @cammybean: how long typical LMS implementation takes from we signed up 4 this 2 first user live #lrnchat
09:25:07 pm ThomasStone: @hjarche @JaneBozarth If your LMS has strong enough social aspects, then it can be where you work, and where your PLN is. Why not? #lrnchat
09:25:14 pm jkunrein: Q3) we don't use our LMS whenever we want learners to get to the content easily. isn't that sad? #lrnchat
09:25:18 pm petersonandrew: #lrnchat it makes me sad when you see a LMS used as a multiple choice testing too… LMS should not equal bubble sheets
09:25:19 pm xpconcept: Q3) To capture *ALL* this data that we can't access and won't use. #lrnchat
09:25:20 pm hjarche: @SueSchnorr be careful, ADDIE_ID will haunt you if he thinks you like him – be werry careful! #lrnchat
09:25:22 pm dwilkinsnh: On no, Sue said "ADDIE" — everybody drink! #lrnchat
09:25:35 pm skluczny13: @Schnicker LMS is not a form of learning- its a delivery platform and tracking tool #lrnchat
09:25:42 pm Quinnovator: @xpconcept agreed. Difference between a toolchest and a swiss army knife. There're times I use one, and times for the other #lrnchat
09:25:45 pm Schnicker: @profgesser I was referring to a blended learning approach (Being an LMS vendor I obviously believe it has it's strengths) #lrnchat
09:25:48 pm gminks: hello everyone! #lrnchat
09:25:49 pm minutebio: Q3) Do not use for "just in time training." By the time they get their password reset content will be outdated. #lrnchat
09:25:51 pm TriciaRansom: @JaneBozarth I didn't think BB was LMS #lrnchat
09:25:56 pm nickjhowe: RT @TriciaRansom: Q2) Told boss we need to find a way to make the LMS invisible to end-users #lrnchat Excellent goal! Agree 100%
09:25:56 pm JaneBozarth: @thomasstone My PLN is not where I work. #lrnchat
09:26:20 pm jkunrein: I consider it an LCMS RT @JaneBozarth: IS Blackboard an LMS? #lrnchat
09:26:33 pm hjarche: @dwilkinsnh it's OK – I'm drinking #lrnchat
09:26:44 pm TriciaRansom: LOL RT @minutebio: Q3) Do not use for "just in time training." By the time they get their password reset content will be outdated. #lrnchat
09:26:49 pm kelly_smith01: RT @minutebio: Q3) Do not use for "just in time training." By the time they get their password reset content will be outdated. #lrnchat
09:26:52 pm JoanVinallCox: @xpconcept can do that with Box.net wikis etc. #lrnchat
09:26:52 pm petersonandrew: @JaneBozarth #lrnchat blackboard is MS but little L (in my experience) ….warning Moodle biased
09:26:55 pm JaneBozarth: RT @minutebio: Q3) Do not use for "just in time training." By the time they get their password reset content will be outdated. #lrnchat
09:27:01 pm dwilkinsnh: @minutebio Guess that assumes you aren't doing SSO which would be insane, right? ; ) #lrnchat
09:27:03 pm SueSchnorr: @gminks. Hi Gina. Welcome. Perfect timing; we just started drinking. #lrnchat
09:27:13 pm TriciaRansom: RT @xpconcept: Q3) To capture *ALL* this data that we cant access and wont use. #lrnchat
09:27:14 pm smitty1966: RT @skluczny13: @Schnicker LMS is not a form of learning- its a delivery platform and tracking tool #lrnchat
09:27:18 pm cnagel: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How might you *not* use an LMS? #lrnchat
09:27:27 pm skluczny13: Disagree! @minutebio Q3) Dont use for "just in time training." By the time they get their password reset content will be outdated. #lrnchat
09:27:32 pm JaneBozarth: @thomasstone In other words: Dude, my PLN is YOU. #lrnchat
09:27:35 pm billcush: YES! RT @nickjhowe: RT @TriciaRansom: Q2) Told boss we need to find a way to make the LMS invisible to end-users #lrnchat Excellent goal!
09:27:37 pm xpconcept: @dwilkinsnh #lrnchat – there are vendors in the business that have poisoned the experience (big, expensive) less returned – can't undo.
09:27:38 pm nickjhowe: @cammybean 18 months for us.😦 Unbelieveable, but true. Soooooo many lessons learned about what not to do #lrnchat
09:27:41 pm gminks: @SueSchnorr not sure how to take that… lol🙂 #lrnchat
09:27:42 pm dwilkinsnh: @hjarche I started taking hard core drugs about 10 min into this session… lol #lrnchat
09:27:44 pm profgesser: .@Schnicker I absolutely agree that LMSs can be ideal for some environments: totally online for example #lrnchat
09:27:44 pm courosa: @dendroglyph Typical LMS's aren't exactly known for a high level of learner control. System in LMS means #control. #lrnchat
09:27:48 pm jkunrein: RT @minutebio: Q3) Do not use for "just in time training." By the time they get their password reset content will be outdated. #lrnchat
09:27:50 pm minutebio: RT @dwilkinsnh: Guess that assumes you arent doing SSO which would be insane, right? // SSO? #lrnchat
09:28:02 pm hjarche: @jkunrein LCMS was a term coined by competitors after LMS came out – same shit, different day – I used to sell one #lrnchat
09:28:13 pm ThomasStone: Ah, fair enough. Context for tonight I thought was workplace, right? RT @JaneBozarth: @thomasstone My PLN is not where I work. #lrnchat
09:28:26 pm Schnicker: @skluczny13 I know but some think it'll be the magic bullet to solve all learning/training issues. It delivers content, not teaches #lrnchat
09:29:13 pm billcush: @nickjhowe @TriciaRansom Some companies actually put a link on the intranet "Learning Management System." Yikes. #lrnchat
09:29:17 pm dwilkinsnh: @xpconcept I get that. I do. But when it's done right, returns are through the roof… #lrnchat
09:29:17 pm profgesser: maybe I'm in the wrong chat? what's the diff tween a CMS and LMS? #lrnchat
09:29:22 pm nickjhowe: @xpconcept Why not a repository? We are doing that. If the s/w has the capability, and it fits, use it. #lrnchat
09:29:23 pm SueSchnorr: @gminks, not personal, my new best friend addie & I just bought a round!🙂 #lrnchat
09:29:44 pm cammybean: @nickjhowe 18 months to implement?! Ouch. I'd hate to see the price tag on that one… #lrnchat
09:29:46 pm californiakara: Q3) Even though folks insist on throwing a lot of crap in an LMS, it doesn't make a good crockpot. #lrnchat
09:29:47 pm ThomasStone: Ditto back atcha… but are focused on the workplace I thought RT @JaneBozarth: @thomasstone In other words: Dude, my PLN is YOU. #lrnchat
09:29:48 pm hjarche: @ThomasStone yeah & what's difference between PLN & PKM? – A: it doesn't matter😉 you're doing OK #lrnchat
09:30:09 pm dwilkinsnh: @minutebio SSO — Single sign on, automatic authentication of users against Windows or other sytem of record. No need to login. #lrnchat
09:30:13 pm lmockford: @nataliecurrie :: you need to check out tonight's #lrnchat — the pros and cons of LMS
09:30:19 pm ADDIE_ID: @SueSchnorr Here, can you hold my shovel for a minute? #lrnchat
09:30:27 pm dgeaston: RT @courosa: Can worthwhile learning really be managed through some sort of system? Bah. #lrnchat
09:30:29 pm rmazar: "LMS" is meaningless. There is no system that can guarantee that learning is going to happen. That's a job for people. #lrnchat
09:30:29 pm minutebio: RT @skluczny13: Disagree! 3) Dont use for "just in time training.".. #lrnchat // Just in tme shld b very easy, quick access
09:30:30 pm kelly_smith01: I'll check with my HR friends look into some ERP and Talent Managment tools #lrnchat
09:30:44 pm petersonandrew: @profgesser #lrnchat , the difference between LMS and CMS is the price
09:30:51 pm minutebio: RT @californiakara: Q3) Even though folks insist on throwing a lot of crap in an LMS, it doesnt make a good crockpot. #lrnchat
09:30:58 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone LMS you put in my workplace might have lots of SoMe bells/whistles– but they aren't relevant to me/my work #lrnchat
09:31:03 pm nickjhowe: RT @minutebio: Q3) Do not use for "just in time training." By the time they get their password reset content will be outdated. #lrnchat LOL
09:31:07 pm cammybean: @hjarche I take it you really loved your old job. 😉
#lrnchat
09:31:07 pm jsuzcampos: RT @jkunrein: I consider it an LCMS RT @JaneBozarth: IS Blackboard an LMS? <> #lrnchat
09:31:19 pm billcush: Blur. RT @profgesser: maybe I’m in the wrong chat? what’s the diff tween a CMS and LMS? #lrnchat
09:31:24 pm reward75: RT @rmazar: “LMS” is meaningless. There is no system that can guarantee that learning is going to happen. Thats a job for people. #lrnchat
09:31:25 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone I use several networks that are useful to me/my work now. Don’t want another. #lrnchat
09:31:28 pm moehlert: #lrnchat How many people have looked at Udutu? http://bit.ly/9FHNkb
09:31:39 pm SueSchnorr: @hjarche, It’s our old pal JC, isn’t it! #lrnchat
09:31:39 pm gminks: RT @petersonandrew: @profgesser #lrnchat , the difference between LMS and CMS is the price #lrnchat
09:31:43 pm JoanVinallCox: @profgesser LMSs good for walled garden requiring little web use knowhow – students NEED to learn web as well as content #lrnchat
09:31:44 pm kelly_smith01: So many acronyms. #lrnchat
09:31:45 pm jkunrein: @hjarche To you, does LMS=LCMS=CMS? To me, LCMS=CMS. #lrnchat
09:31:59 pm odguru: @JaneBozarth what about an aggregator? #lrnchat
09:32:05 pm JaneBozarth: RT @cammybean: @hjarche I take it you really loved your old job. 😉
#lrnchat
09:32:24 pm profgesser: .@petersonandrew haha, ok, that’s kinda what I thought #lrnchat
09:32:30 pm petersonandrew: #lrnchat was there already a poll to see what LMS solutions everyone is using? am I the only one who would be interested in seeing that?
09:32:31 pm jclarey: @profgesser LMS manages learners and learning events. L/CMS manages instructional (a/k/a learning) content. #lrnchat
09:32:33 pm hjarche: @cammybean my old job defined my new job – everything except selling software😉 #lrnchat
09:32:35 pm Schnicker: @skluczny13 Of course, at the end of the day it comes down to the quality & relevance of content/info being put in. #lrnchat
09:32:37 pm JaneBozarth: @odguru Sorry? For which point? #lrnchat
09:32:46 pm gminks: From a corp perspective, some of your answers seriously minimize the current state of affairs wrt to LMS’s #lrnchat
09:32:57 pm cammybean: @ThomasStone When I’m at work, you’re my PLN. It doesn’t matter to me where I work or learn — it’s going on all the time. #lrnchat
09:32:58 pm Quinnovator: @kelly_smith01 I think saying ‘acronyms’ is a *drink* #lrnchat
09:33:02 pm JaneBozarth: Q: What’s the difference between LMS and LCMS? A: C . #lrnchat
09:33:11 pm nickjhowe: @billcush: Some companies actually put a link on the intranet “Learning Management System.” Yikes. #lrnchat Oops. looks away sheepishly.
09:33:12 pm hjarche: @jkunrein they’re all CMS’s, just wrapped differently #lrnchat
09:33:13 pm minutebio: RT @dwilkinsnh: SSO — Single sign on, automatic authentication // Thanks. Used b4.. gr8 too. JIT still few clicks away tho #lrnchat
09:33:19 pm ThomasStone: @JaneBozarth Are you just speaking for you, that you know they wouldn’t be relevant? Or generalizing for most emps at most orgs? #lrnchat
09:33:32 pm jkunrein: For instance in my MEd classes, I sign up and pay through the LMS (PeopleSoft), and work on class content (kinda) in the CMS (BB). #lrnchat
09:33:45 pm profgesser: Q3) holy crap, wanna know how not to use it and why? Look at all the tech jargon here!! should we say don’t use it to teach? #lrnchat
09:33:59 pm Quinnovator: @gminks I think what some of us are suggesting that the current corp state of affairs wrt LMS is misguided #lrnchat
09:34:14 pm kelly_smith01: @Quinnovator Yes. Lucky I BYOB tonight #lrnchat
09:34:29 pm rmazar: @courosa Worthwhile learning can happen anywhere, including inside a “learning” management system. #lrnchat
09:34:44 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone For me, at the moment. But if we want emps out of silos then we need to be careful not to put them in another #lrnchat
09:34:47 pm gminks: @Quinnovator maybe so, but you can’t just undo 10 years of misguided integrations like *that* #lrnchat
09:34:51 pm ThomasStone: ok, but think you’re minority today RT @JaneBozarth: I use several networks that are useful to me/my work. Don’t want another. #lrnchat
09:35:00 pm moehlert: RT @JaneBozarth: Q: What’s the difference between LMS and LCMS? A: C . #lrnchat
09:35:13 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @rmazar: @courosa Worthwhile learning can happen anywhere, including inside a “learning” management system. #lrnchat
09:35:24 pm Quinnovator: @gminks but you gotta start somewhere😉 #lrnchat
09:35:29 pm rmazar: @courosa Of course, it can happen equally well in a corridor or on a subway… #lrnchat
09:35:44 pm xpconcept: @nickjhowe #lrnchat – our LMS is just launch and track. Currently integrating through CMS – non trackables = cms (pref) for us.
09:35:45 pm lrnchat: Q4) What do you see as the future of the LMS? #lrnchat
09:35:53 pm courosa: @rmazar where’s it more likely to happen? #lrnchat
09:35:55 pm hjarche: @rmazar yes, and learning can happen on the toilet, but there no licensing fees #lrnchat
09:35:56 pm drukid: Q3) LMS’s don’t kill learning, unimaginative instructors kill learning. U must bparticipate in the web to excel at guiding others. #lrnchat
09:35:58 pm profgesser: RT @JoanVinallCox LMSs good for walled garden requiring little web use knowhow – students NEED to learn web as well as content #lrnchat
09:36:01 pm TriciaRansom: To me, LMSs LCMSs r back-end tools 4 learning dept/mngmt. Done rite, no impact on learner-invisible. Done wrong can undo learning. #lrnchat
09:36:17 pm smitty1966: Or on Twitter! RT @rmazar: @courosa Of course, it can happen equally well in a corridor or on a subway… #lrnchat
09:36:21 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: Q: Whats the difference between LMS and LCMS? A: C . –> Hi C or Low C #lrnchat
09:36:23 pm gminks: @Quinnovator I agree…but its hard to see the whole system if you are hating on one particular part of it. #lrnchat
09:36:25 pm Quinnovator: @ThomasStone I prefer to think of @JaneBozarth as ‘special’, not “a minority” #lrnchat
09:36:25 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do you see as the future of the LMS? #lrnchat
09:36:30 pm gminks: (I’m just here to cause trouble!) #lrnchat
09:36:35 pm petersonandrew: @profgesser #lrnchat LMS is a TCP/IP optimization utility to categorically organize social and topical content in a meaningful manner🙂
09:36:35 pm odguru: @JaneBozarth do you think the aggregator that some would like to see 4 social will provide the ability to support formal/informal? #lrnchat
09:36:37 pm minutebio: RT @skluczny13: totally agree- mo 2 wrry abt if usrs dnt knw lms pw, clrly arent engaged // Tru or 2 many PWs & rqr’d changes 2 pw #lrnchat
09:36:48 pm ThomasStone: @JaneBozarth I don’t see how a cross-org LMS with strong social features creates a silo — it helps tear them down #lrnchat
09:36:55 pm moehlert: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do you see as the future of the LMS? #lrnchat
09:36:58 pm courosa: @rmazar agreed – then what’s the point of the LMS? #control #lrnchat
09:36:59 pm Quinnovator: RT @drukid: Q3) LMS’s don’t kill learning, unimaginative instructors kill learning. #lrnchat < just like powerpoint!
09:37:03 pm xpconcept: @dwilkinsnh #lrnchat – I'd agree. Done right, the returns are there. Done right so rare in gov't space from my view.
09:37:06 pm audioswhite: RT @jclarey: @profgesser LMS manages learners and learning events. L/CMS manages instructional (a/k/a learning) content. #lrnchat
09:37:08 pm cammybean: Q4) The future of LMS is open…
#lrnchat
09:37:10 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do you see as the future of the LMS? #lrnchat
09:37:10 pm ADDIE_ID: Q4. Lots of chatter this week about Q4 #lrnchat
09:37:21 pm billcush: Ha. How do you think I know it. RT @nickjhowe #lrnchat Oops. looks away sheepishly.
09:37:24 pm moehlert: @lrnchat A slow spin into a feature instead of a "system" #lrnchat
09:37:38 pm cammybean: Q4) The future of LMS is agile. #lrnchat
09:37:44 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @cammybean: Q4) The future of LMS is open…
#lrnchat
09:37:46 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: RT @drukid: Q3) LMSs dont kill learning, unimaginative instructors kill learning. #lrnchat <just like powerpoint! #lrnchat
09:37:46 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do you see as the future of the LMS? #lrnchat
09:37:46 pm profgesser: .@jclarey really seems no fundamental diff #lrnchat
09:37:52 pm jkunrein: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do you see as the future of the LMS? #lrnchat
09:37:52 pm ADDIE_ID: @c4lpt on transition to post LMS world http://bit.ly/cixwdy #lrnchat
09:37:52 pm drukid: Q4) LMS's will eventually mature with their user base. As the chalkboard educators retire, you'll see the use of LMSs mature #lrnchat
09:38:02 pm billcush: @profgesser I guess LMS just a system that manages a particular kind of content. #lrnchat
09:38:09 pm smitty1966: Agreed – transparent, learner and community directed. RT @cammybean: Q4) The future of LMS is open… #lrnchat
09:38:09 pm jclarey: RT @JoanVinallCox: RT @rmazar: @courosa Worthwhile learning can happen anywhere, including inside "learning" management system. #lrnchat TY!
09:38:09 pm ThomasStone: Convergence w/social media, w/more LMS adding it than social tools adding tracking RT Q4) What do you see as the future of the LMS? #lrnchat
09:38:17 pm gminks: RT @cammybean: Q4) The future of LMS is agile. #lrnchat
09:38:19 pm ADDIE_ID: Q4 Also @hjharche nice piece on post-LMS future http://bit.ly/bmAJy8 #lrnchat
09:38:28 pm kelly_smith01: I hope the future of LMS is mobile #lrnchat
09:38:30 pm Quinnovator: @gminks that's why they're paid the big bucks, to see the big picture despite the pain and haze #lrnchat
09:38:36 pm hjarche: By 2015, the LMS will be a widgit #lrnchat
09:38:52 pm gminks: Q4 I would like to say easier integration with other enterprise tools #lrnchat
09:38:56 pm ThomasStone: truth is told! 🙂 RT @Quinnovator: @ThomasStone I prefer to think of @JaneBozarth as 'special', not "a minority" #lrnchat
09:39:00 pm cnagel: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do you see as the future of the LMS? #lrnchat
09:39:03 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do you see as the future of the LMS? #lrnchat
09:39:16 pm cammybean: RT @ADDIE_ID: @c4lpt on transition to post LMS world http://bit.ly/cixwdy #lrnchat
09:39:18 pm gminks: @Quinnovator who is this they you speak of sir? #lrnchat
09:39:23 pm Quinnovator: Q4) the future of the LMS it a tool on the workbench, part of the performance ecosystem #lrnchat
09:39:28 pm billcush: Q4) Future of LMS: Just a web site. #lrnchat
09:39:30 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) easier for users, easier integration for IT (sso, transparent), truly linked w/performance, not courses #lrnchat
09:39:37 pm hjarche: @ADDIE_ID thx – but what do you know about dead things? #lrnchat
09:39:40 pm JoanVinallCox: Web new student & teacher environ – need to learn how to be part of it – LMS mostly blocks that – roam free!!! #lrnchat
09:39:44 pm petersonandrew: Q4) the future of LMS is Google + Facebook + a dash of YouTube #lrnchat
09:39:46 pm kelly_smith01: RT @gminks: Q4 I would like to say easier integration with other enterprise tools #lrnchat
09:39:51 pm jsuzcampos: Q4) In the words of the magic 8 ball: Outlook not so good. #lrnchat
09:39:59 pm espnguyen: I'm recycling this from earlier #lrnchat but I believe future LMS = Netflix code base.
09:40:05 pm Quinnovator: RT @smitty1966: Agreed – transparent, learner and community directed. RT @cammybean: Q4) The future of LMS is open… #lrnchat
09:40:05 pm dwilkinsnh: @odguru That's not a future state. That's today for some systems… Part of my frustration in this discussion… #lrnchat
09:40:06 pm minutebio: Q4) Future of LMS? Social tools, better mobile access, better content dev tools (lCms)… And usability. #lrnchat
09:40:08 pm odguru: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @gminks: Q4 I would like to say easier integration with other enterprise tools #lrnchat
09:40:14 pm profgesser: #lrnchat @petersonandrew just threw up a bit in my mouth
09:40:19 pm kelly_smith01: RT @jsuzcampos: Q4) In the words of the magic 8 ball: Outlook not so good. #lrnchat
09:40:20 pm nickjhowe: Q4: social, social, social. presence, rating, ranking, end user content, LMS platform for facilitator of learning #lrnchat/
09:40:29 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone sorry when did we say cross-org? #lrnchat
09:41:04 pm jclarey: @profgesser totally different in a corporate environment #lrnchat
09:41:07 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone @quinnovator Yeah well I prefer to think of me as a "delicate flower of Southern womanhood" #lrnchat
09:41:09 pm nickjhowe: Q4: Still need all today's features. Need to add new capabilities. Compliance won't go away. #lrnchat/
09:41:15 pm Quinnovator: @gminks the management that has 10 years of misguided interpretations of LMS and hating on it😉 #lrnchat
09:41:15 pm ThomasStone: Many LMSes already are "just web sites" — all that are SaaS model RT @billcush: Q4) Future of LMS: Just a web site. #lrnchat
09:41:18 pm profgesser: Q4) future will be seamless integration w soc media and soc network tools and services..low overhead, high functionality #lrnchat
09:41:23 pm smitty1966: LMS should be and AI engine, adapting, dynamically integrated with social media channels. #lrnchat
09:41:35 pm JaneBozarth: @odguru Hope so #lrnchat
09:41:37 pm nickjhowe: Q4: need better link to full talent lifecycle. Not many companies doing this today, even though software can do it. #lrnchat/
09:41:38 pm drukid: Q4) I also see video game systems (Nintendo is leading the way: http://is.gd/bXITX) being a platform for LMS. #lrnchat
09:41:39 pm Schnicker: Q4) Future of LMS: seamless integration with other apps #lrnchat
09:41:40 pm espnguyen: Netflix LMS = learner recommendations, connect like ppl, queue = learning plan, and forcasting #lrnchat
09:41:48 pm JoanVinallCox: Agreed! RT @petersonandrew: Q4) the future of LMS is Google + Facebook + a dash of YouTube #lrnchat
09:41:52 pm kellygarber: I can’t believe I missed lrnchat on the night LMS is topic? Tonight had to be the BEST drinking game night ever! #lrnchat
09:41:59 pm petersonandrew: @profgesser #lrnchat nice to know my useless jargon skills are still honed
09:42:00 pm SueSchnorr: @hjarche, btw, Jay Cross is not here tonight just sayin! 😉 #lrnchat
09:42:10 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) or a simple, easier to use reporting/compliance tool. #lrnchat
09:42:13 pm ThomasStone: RT @minutebio: Q4) Future of LMS? Social tools, better mobile access, <— definitely a growth area!! #lrnchat
09:42:15 pm dwilkinsnh: We grew new accounts by 60% in 2009. Bersin puts CAGR for LMS at 15-20%. LMS still going strong. Billion dollar industry. #lrnchat
09:42:19 pm Schnicker: Q4) LMS will become more invisible to trainee/learner #lrnchat
09:42:24 pm ronindotca: RT @Quinnovator: RT @drukid: Q3) LMS's don't kill learning, unimaginative instructors kill learning. #lrnchat < just like powerpoint!
09:42:34 pm dwilkinsnh: @Schnicker Again, already here. Depends on your solution. #lrnchat
09:42:36 pm gminks: @Quinnovator😀 #lrnchat
09:42:43 pm Quinnovator: Q4) how about LMS is the formal learning tool of a community continually co-creating competency paths & negotiated curricula? #lrnchat
09:42:48 pm jsuzcampos: Q4) The LMS needs a new name. Learning Management is such a misnomer. #lrnchat
09:42:48 pm odguru: @dwilkinsnh Why is that so? That this group does not see the value? Changing so fast? #lrnchat
09:42:53 pm ThomasStone: RT @JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone sorry when did we say cross-org? #lrnchat I mean across all parts of an organization, like it should be
09:43:01 pm cnagel: Q4) Future of LMS – Definitely incorporates social media aspects, performance mgmt tools more access for learner comments #lrnchat.
09:43:08 pm minutebio: RT @Schnicker: Q4) LMS will become more invisible to trainee/learner // That wld be fantastic! #lrnchat
09:43:19 pm hjarche: @SueSchnorr we have 2 from Internet Time Alliance – didn't want to swamp the conversation🙂 #lrnchat
09:43:24 pm billcush: Q4) Future of LMSs: Please…allow users to tag, organize, categorize, share, rate, rank and comment on learning content. #lrnchat
09:43:30 pm reward75: Would love if all my learning could be pulled N2 a portfolio that moves w/ me, from school 2 school, from job 2 job #lrnchat
09:43:34 pm profgesser: RT Q4) the future of LMS is Google + Facebook + a dash of YouTube location based learning, learning @ time of need, virtual work space, temp worker #lrnchat
09:43:40 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) Amazon like tool w/easy UI and learner options easy 2 do (opt in/out, rating, comments, CoP) #lrnchat
09:43:49 pm nickjhowe: @hjarche: By 2015, the LMS will be a widgit #lrnchat Way too pessimistic. Try 2010
09:43:52 pm dwilkinsnh: @odguru Maybe? I’m really struggling with why do few seem to know what LMS’s can *already* do. #lrnchat
09:43:53 pm profgesser: RT @minutebio: Q4) Future of LMS? Social tools, better mobile access, better content dev tools (lCms)… And usability. #lrnchat
09:43:55 pm drukid: Q4) I also see LMS as a means of improving prison education and adult literacy. Kinda like the old PBS classroom videos. #lrnchat
09:44:01 pm reward75: Oh, and it’s all integrated🙂 #lrnchat
09:44:02 pm TriciaRansom: @billcush We think alike! #lrnchat
09:44:11 pm kelly_smith01: RT @minutebio: RT @Schnicker: Q4) LMS will become more invisible to trainee/learner // That wld be fantastic! #lrnchat
09:44:16 pm JaneBozarth: RT @profgesser: RT Q4) the future of LMS is Google + Facebook + a dash of YouTube <~ + Twitter, blogs, wikis, Google Apps #lrnchat
09:44:23 pm xpconcept: #lrnchat – LMS, like Powerpoint, is just a tool. An expensive tool:) Q4) future of LMS is orgs maturing expectations for how to leverage lms
09:44:36 pm audioswhite: q4) short to mid term – practicdsl integrated into HR systems for compliance – for elearning move to open web IMO #lrnchat
09:44:40 pm skluczny13: @billcush LMSs are out there now that allow users to organize, categorize, share, rate, rank and comment on learning content. #lrnchat
09:44:40 pm ThomasStone: Agreed. Part of issue is ppl trapped in long contracts RT @dwilkinsnh: @Schnicker Again, already here. Depends on your solution. #lrnchat
09:44:44 pm jclarey: @dwilkinsnh I hear you. Many are not your grandma's LMS (from 2000.) #lrnchat
09:44:45 pm jsuzcampos: Q4) I'm using Facebook as my LMS next semester, with Diigo, Netvibes, Twitter, and Google sites. Transparent and open? #lrnchat
09:44:50 pm billcush: @ThomasStone Yes…but so many seem to have different navigation, links, layout, interfaces than plain-old-fashioned web sites. #lrnchat
09:44:54 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) Vendors, please listen!! Make it easy and less cumbersome to upload content. Integrate w/content dev tools to upload instantly #lrnchat
09:45:03 pm JoanVinallCox: Signing out – my TweetDeck is "sick" again, & HootSuite slow. I blame LMSs #lrnchat
09:45:07 pm profgesser: @jclarey ahhh, not so sure I even knew that (extent of business environ use) #lrnchat
09:45:11 pm petersonandrew: Q4 #lrnchat the future LMS will have to be lifelong, personal, and portable…. why tie learning to schools?
09:45:31 pm doctorjeff: My thoughts on THE REMARKABLE POWER OF #TWITTER: a water cooler for the 21st Century: http://bit.ly/9eNhO5 #social #media #edchat #lrnchat
09:45:32 pm dwilkinsnh: @nickjhowe A widget into what? We keep circling same issue Widget needs to live somewhere. Where? #lrnchat
09:45:37 pm Quinnovator: RT @JoanVinallCox: Signing out – my TweetDeck is "sick" again, & HootSuite slow. I blame LMSs #lrnchat )
09:48:10 pm jkunrein: @dwilkinsnh Yes, LMSs vary; most in use don’t have all the best tools. We don’t always get to choose, hence the frustration here. #lrnchat
09:48:18 pm JaneBozarth: Yes. Be sure to print your certificate. RT @minutebio: When Lrnchat is over, and if I score 80%, will I be marked as “Completed.” #lrnchat
09:48:20 pm kellygarber: @smitty1966 don’t get me started on the “like” button – flash backs of childhood inadequacy.🙂 #lrnchat
09:48:21 pm Quinnovator: @minutebio good point, how does an LMS accommodate us in #lrnchat ?
09:48:22 pm smitty1966: RT @Quinnovator: Q4) LMS could go web 3.0: system-generated content based upon learner, context, task, and available content comp. #lrnchat
09:48:30 pm drukid: RT @minutebio: Quick question – When Lrnchat is over, and if I score 80%, will I be marked as “Completed?” #lrnchat
09:48:36 pm cnagel: Q4) Future of LMS – I hear from others using LMS that uploads & publishing are huge problem. Would like to see improvement there #lrnchat
09:48:38 pm profgesser: RT @petersonandrew: Q4 #lrnchat the future LMS will have to be lifelong, personal, and portable…. why tie learning to schools?
09:48:57 pm nickjhowe: @billcush: All those features coming to our vendor’s LMS before this year end. #lrnchat
09:48:58 pm drukid: RT @TriciaRansom: Cant do facebook for teaching/learning. Privacy options not acceptable for many. #lrnchat
09:49:12 pm kelly_smith01: @ADDIE_ID Hey ADDIE_ID do you have a film strip projector – I need to play my “Duck and Cover” film strip #lrnchat
09:49:36 pm profgesser: .@hjarche @jsuzcampos uh, they already are #lrnchat
09:49:38 pm petersonandrew: #lrnchat , the future, Learning will go one way, and the Management System will go the other. The students will be in the middle somewhere
09:49:42 pm reward75: RT @kelly_smith01: @ADDIE_ID Hey ADDIE_ID do you have a film strip projector – I need to play my “Duck and Cover” film strip #lrnchat
09:49:43 pm minutebio: RT @cammybean: @minutebio I’ll even send you a certificate #lrnchat // Thanks!
09:50:09 pm hjarche: @jsuzcampos if “all” students already on FB, then I’m OK with that #lrnchat
09:50:18 pm odguru: Wouldn’t it be great to push a learning management button and have lrnchat accessible by authors, links, conversations. save in rep #lrnchat
09:50:18 pm ThomasStone: RT @Schnicker: Q4) Future of LMS – you’ll be happier! Long contracts you’re locked in to will expire, u can explore new options #lrnchat
09:50:41 pm minutebio: RT @JaneBozarth: Yes. Be sure to print your certificate. // Always print bc LMS can not b trusted🙂 #lrnchat
09:50:51 pm JaneBozarth: Shameless plug:My new book’s about using Fbook, Twitter, etc for training/learning & LMS “Social Media for Trainers” out Aug 23. #lrnchat
09:50:56 pm profgesser: .@jsuzcampos @hjarche used Facebook this semester and students loved it and wanted more of it #lrnchat
09:50:58 pm urbie: @TriciaRansom AMEN to integrate with established tools. #lrnchat
09:51:14 pm dwilkinsnh: @Quinnovator Accomodate #lrnchat in an LMS? Embed a web-based Twitter client on a page as a live interaction or RSS the feed #lrnchat
09:51:16 pm smitty1966: Future of LMS will be Kodachromes stuck in a Kodak slide carousel! #lrnchat
09:51:23 pm nickjhowe: @dwilkinsnh: Widget needs to live somewhere. Where? #lrnchat Anywhere and everywhere that it needs to. Home page, portal, intra/extranet
09:51:24 pm drukid: @profgesser RT @petersonandrew why tie learning to schools? <— this means the PhDs will have to ALL agree. (IDK…Kanye Shrug) #lrnchat
09:51:34 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links & requests (or shameless plugs) welcome, too. #lrnchat
09:51:41 pm Quinnovator: @jclarey but when start aggregating features, are they still LMS? And can they track new ideas generated, probs solved? #lrnchat
09:51:44 pm drukid: RT @profgesser: .@jsuzcampos @hjarche used Facebook this semester and students loved it and wanted more of it shameless plug: http://bit.ly/lrnlayer #lrnchat
09:58:39 pm profgesser: is there a good Twitter list for #lrnchat participants?
09:59:04 pm gminks: YAY congrats!!!! @TriciaRansom #lrnchat
09:59:16 pm nickjhowe: Qwrap: and BTW, we use @SabaSoftware #lrnchat/
09:59:27 pm ADDIE_ID: @reward75 What a coincidence! I am IN that film! #lrnchat
09:59:29 pm mojo_girl: RT @rmazar: The future of the LMS = no LMS; web spaces constructed by instructors built out of a bunch of tools all glued together. #lrnchat
09:59:32 pm audioswhite: Stephen White (and just for those in Rochester – former House of Guitars employee) #lrnchat
09:59:37 pm Schnicker: @profgesser check @marciamarcia ‘s lists.. I think she has the original one. #lrnchat
09:59:56 pm billcush: @JaneBozarth Urgh…out of paper. #lrnchat
09:59:58 pm dwilkinsnh: @rmazar gluing tools together mean diff databases, diff search models, diff user models; complicates search, reporting, usr mgmt #lrnchat
10:00:04 pm JaneBozarth: hey everyone big group hug for @davewilkinsnh ? #lrnchat
10:00:20 pm kelly_smith01: @ADDIE_ID But did you cover?
#lrnchat
10:00:29 pm dbolen: qwrap Don Bolen learning strategist, PM, ATL #lrnchat
10:00:39 pm odguru: Christy Pettit – in the group hug for dave!! Love you Dave! #lrnchat
10:00:42 pm SueSchnorr: RT @kellygarber: Qwrap) kelly, small (way) learning biz … will you please like me? http://bit.ly/9JrSkW #lrnchat
10:00:46 pm Schnicker: Sheesh – I think I need one too! RT @JaneBozarth: hey everyone big group hug for @davewilkinsnh ? #lrnchat
10:01:21 pm dwilkinsnh: @JaneBozarth LOL. Let’s fold in @ThomasStone into that one. ; ) #lrnchat
10:01:24 pm ThomasStone: After 90 minutes of #lrnchat I remain Tom Stone, from Element K in Rochester, New York. Good night all!
10:01:27 pm lrnchat: Thank you for joining us on #lrnchat. Please tell us if you blog about the conversation so we can link to it on http://lrnchat.com
10:01:38 pm bschlenker: RT @moehlert: RT @billcush: QWrap) Bill Cushard. Charlotte, NC. Hoping my completion will be recorded in the LMS tonight. #lrnchat
10:01:42 pm SueSchnorr: @Kellygarber Nice facebook page. Good stuff, people, sign on to fb and like Kelly’s page http://bit.ly/9JrSkW #lrnchat
10:02:07 pm smitty1966: My fingers are cramping – taking too many notes with pen and paper. Will transcibe later into the LMS. #lrnchat
10:02:08 pm Quinnovator: @dwilkinsnh just not seeing why that’s unique to LMS, but agree LMS could host #lrnchat
10:02:15 pm ADDIE_ID: @kelly_smith01 Sorry we hadn’t yet done a needs assessment and written an objective for that. #lrnchat
10:02:30 pm SueSchnorr: RT @dwilkinsnh: @JaneBozarth LOL. Let’s fold in @ThomasStone into that one. ; ) #lrnchat
10:02:45 pm dwilkinsnh: @odguru Love you too Christy… ; )#lrnchat
10:02:46 pm JaneBozarth: @dwilkinsnh Are you kidding? HE has been abusing ME all night. #lrnchat
10:03:05 pm lrnchat: Once the #lrnchat transcript is posted to http://lrnchat.com we’ll announce it here.

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