Transcript for 29 April 2010 (early)

04:31:46 pm lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1) Introduce yourself (we’ll do this again at the end): Location? Focus? Favorite topics?
04:32:58 pm lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been? Q0 warm up after the rules.
04:33:16 pm MariaOD: RT @lrnchat Rules for #lrnchat: 1) Introduce yourself (we’ll do this again at the end): Location? Focus? Favorite topics?
04:33:24 pm lrnchat: 2) Try to stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 20 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
04:34:11 pm marciamarcia: Today on #lrnchat (both early NOW & late 8:30p ET) on Enterprise 2.0 tools for Learning. Join us! http://lrnchat.com #e20
04:35:14 pm lrnchat: 4) Remember to include #lrnchat in all posts or use a tool like http://tweetchat.com or http://tweetgrid.com
04:35:24 pm audioswhite: RT @marciamarcia: Today on #lrnchat (both early NOW & late 8:30p ET) on Enterprise 2.0 tools for Learning. Join us! http://lrnchat.com #e20
04:35:26 pm lrnchat: 3) Write complete thoughts to help followers outside #lrnchat learn from you.
04:35:39 pm JasonFane: #lrnchat Jason Fane, interested in #InstructionalDesign, #FlashPrograming, #PowerPoint creation, and #educational tools in general.
04:35:49 pm doppeltweets: RT @marciamarcia: Today on #lrnchat (both early NOW & late 8:30p ET) on Enterprise 2.0 tools for Learning. Join us! http://lrnchat.com #e20
04:36:06 pm mrch0mp3rs: I’m here at the gate, ready for #lrnchat on iPad. Hoping I can keep up.
04:36:36 pm sifowler: Joining #lrnchat for lunch. Discussing Enterprise 2.0 tools for Learning! ‘Scuse tweetflurry #lrnchat
04:36:37 pm lrnchat: 5) Periodically RT questions so those outside #lrnchat know what we’re talking about & so they can contribute too.
04:36:39 pm janwebb21: RT @lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been? Q0 warm up after the rules.
04:36:45 pm lrnchat: 6) On #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm & irony welcome though. Really.
04:36:57 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @moehlert: @lrnchat I’ve been wondering..are LMSs like mushy peas? Always on your plate but you never know why? #lrnchat
04:37:08 pm simbeckhampson: On my starting blocks… at #lrnchat
04:37:14 pm TerrenceWing: Terrence Wing, Los Angeles, Missed you guys last week. Crazy schedule. #lrnchat
04:37:45 pm sifowler: Simon Fowler, R&D at the Forum Corporation, Boston MA, currently updating our Principles of Workplace Learning doc. Welcome advice. #lrnchat
04:37:46 pm janet_frg: I’m going to be hanging out at the early edtion of #lrnchat – pardon all the tweets.
04:38:23 pm busynessgirl: Hey #lrnchat Do some students a favor and let your PLN know about #calcwars (Newton and Leibniz Duke it out over discovery of Calculus) Thx.
04:38:43 pm janwebb21: hi Jan here, going to be joining #lrnchat over the next hour – hoping brain can keep up
04:39:09 pm StephanieDaul: Stephanie Daul, Chicago, R&D in Learning, Instructional Design and now knee deep in 7 courses due in 48 hours! #lrnchat
04:39:12 pm lrnchat: 7) 10 min before end, reintroduce yourself. Links & requests (or shameless plugs) welcome, too #lrnchat
04:40:11 pm lrnchat: Q0) What have you learned today? What have you learned this week? #lrnchat
04:40:26 pm mrch0mp3rs: Aaron Silvers, Chicago. Travelling without moving. #Lrnchat
04:40:29 pm JasonFane: I will be chatting on #lrnchat, please excuse the excessive tweets, or fill free to join the conversation.😀 #lrnchat
04:40:40 pm sifowler: @StephanieDaul woah! good luck with that, Stephanie! #lrnchat
04:40:52 pm StephanieDaul: @mrch0mp3rs coming home or going somewhere? #lrnchat
04:40:59 pm simbeckhampson: Paul Simbeck-Hampson, Bavaria, Learnscape Consultant. http://simbeckhampson.amplify.com/ #lrnchat
04:41:27 pm janwebb21: RT @lrnchat: Q0) What have you learned today? What have you learned this week? #lrnchat
04:42:10 pm mrch0mp3rs: Learning that lrnchat from an iPad is harder than by phone. #Lrnchat
04:42:12 pm jseevers: Q0) What have you learned today? // I’ve learned that sometimes the most difficult task is the one that has the greatest reward. #lrnchat
04:42:27 pm sifowler: Q0) I learned this morning that I won’t get to the first floor in an elevator if I don’t press “1”. #lrnchat
04:42:27 pm StephanieDaul: I’ve learned that if you let your SMEs know your limitation, they will work with you. Management is a different story. #lrnchat
04:42:37 pm JudithELS: Hi Judith Christian-Carter, instructional designer from England. I’ll try to contribute as & when as I’m trying to script some e-l #lrnchat
04:42:53 pm simbeckhampson: @mrch0mp3rs – JK, Travelling with moving (love this song!) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKO8rnKg94o #lrnchat
04:43:01 pm mrch0mp3rs: @StephanieDaul going somewhere. #Lrnchat
04:43:40 pm sifowler: Q0) I also learned from previous #lrnchats to have my lunch ready before #lrnchat
04:43:46 pm janet_frg: Janet Laane Effron – Newburgh (the indiana one, not the UK) – collaborative work and learning. (and forgetting hashtags) #lrnchat
04:43:46 pm JudithELS: RT @marciamarcia: Today on #lrnchat (both early NOW & late 8:30p ET) on Enterprise 2.0 tools for Learning. Join us! http://lrnchat.com #e20
04:44:10 pm odguru: RT @sifowler: Q0) I also learned from previous #lrnchats to have my lunch ready before #lrnchat
04:44:16 pm TerrenceWing: Don’t fly to Israel with it either. RT @mrch0mp3rs: Learning that lrnchat from an iPad is harder than by phone. #lrnchat
04:44:40 pm StephanieDaul: I’ve also learned that virtual participation is as valuable as face to face…and much quicker. #lrnchat
04:44:54 pm janwebb21: Q0 – what have I learnt? patience, answers not always avaiable; kebbler-ross model of grief applies to change process inc education #lrnchat
04:44:59 pm TerrenceWing: @janet_frg Big difference between the two. I am sure. #lrnchat
04:45:17 pm simbeckhampson: I’ve learnt about ‘sparking conversation naturally’ – http://bit.ly/ab6rGf via Amplify.com #lrnchat
04:45:18 pm marciamarcia: Marcia Conner, focus on orgs interested in learning from their ppl, usually outside ed dept, often w/#e20 tools. #lrnchat
04:45:19 pm janwebb21: RT @marciamarcia: Today on #lrnchat (both early NOW & late 8:30p ET) on Enterprise 2.0 tools for Learning. Join us! http://lrnchat.com #e20
04:45:27 pm StephanieDaul: participating in the eLearning Summit virtually. #lrnchat
04:45:43 pm tonya_simmons: Tonya Goth Simmons, production designer, Phasient Learning Technologies, Ames IA #lrnchat
04:45:49 pm simbeckhampson: @StephanieDaul I agree and not to mention the price! #lrnchat
04:45:57 pm mlearncon: Get your “I’m Speaking” web badge for mLearnCon http://bit.ly/bDHJ3a #speaker #mLearning #mlearncon #lrnchat
04:46:15 pm sifowler: what is ‘valuable’ in this case? RT @StephanieDaul: virtual participation is as valuable as face to face…and much quicker. #lrnchat
04:46:28 pm simbeckhampson: @TerrenceWing Not a good advert for Ipad #lrnchat
04:46:33 pm janet_frg: Is anyone else finding that TweetChat is not working well this morning? #lrnchat
04:46:36 pm Rsuominen: Q0) Stick to the timetable. #lrnchat
04:46:50 pm TerrenceWing: There r trainers out there that r downright fearful of the change in the classroom & focusing on the learner. #lrnchat
04:47:13 pm TerrenceWing: @janet_frg Working well on this end #lrnchat
04:47:15 pm lrnchat: Q1a) Which Enterprise 2.0 tools does your organization use? Online communities? Microsharing? Wikis? #lrnchat
04:47:20 pm simbeckhampson: @sifowler I’ve postponed the BBQ today just for this event🙂 #lrnchat
04:47:47 pm sifowler: RT @lrnchat: Q1a) Which Enterprise 2.0 tools does your organization use? Online communities? Microsharing? Wikis? #lrnchat
04:47:52 pm bschlenker: Q0) I learned that it is possible to teach the art of the arm pit farting noise🙂 #lrnchat
04:47:56 pm TerrenceWing: RT @lrnchat: Q1a) Which Enterprise 2.0 tools does your organization use? Online communities? Microsharing? Wikis? #lrnchat
04:47:56 pm janet_frg: @TerrenceWing yes, big difference, but we do have a phone box from the UK N’burgh #lrnchat
04:48:13 pm JasonFane: RT @lrnchat: Q1a) Which Enterprise 2.0 tools does your organization use? Online communities? Microsharing? Wikis? #lrnchat
04:48:26 pm odguru: Christy – Guelph Canada-OD focused #lrnchatter. Learned this week mergers are like births – forget inbetween how messy and painful. #lrnchat
04:48:31 pm petersonandrew: RT @lrnchat: Q1a) Which Enterprise 2.0 tools does your organization use? Online communities? Microsharing? Wikis? #lrnchat
04:48:53 pm simbeckhampson: RT @lrnchat: Q1a) Which Enterprise 2.0 tools does your organization use? Online communities? Microsharing? Wikis? #lrnchat
04:48:54 pm mira_bell: @TerrenceWing the ban on the iPad is Isreal was lifted – no worries for the Israeli’s anymore! #lrnchat
04:48:57 pm drtimony: David Timony–Philadelphia. K12 educator, Expertise theorist, researcher and college prof. lrnd that sleep does wonders. #lrnchat
04:48:58 pm TerrenceWing: @simbeckhampson I never sympathize with a company that has enough cash reserves to end world hunger. #lrnchat
04:49:13 pm simbeckhampson: @odguru Hi Christy… nice to see you. #lrnchat
04:49:14 pm sifowler: @simbeckhampson postponed the BBQ? bring it forward my man, let the sauce into your keyboard! #lrnchat
04:49:16 pm mira_bell: @TerrenceWing the ban on the iPad is Israell was lifted – no worries for the Israeli’s anymore! #lrnchat
04:49:30 pm lrnchat: Q1b) What’s your org’s aim for using #e20 tools? Collaboration? Finding people? Status? Peer2peer learning? #lrnchat
04:49:44 pm odguru: q1 mainstays are the communities. Use micro blogging for bus dev. #lrnchat
04:49:47 pm petersonandrew: Q1a) the closest thing we have to 2.0 tools in use are shared heating and plumbing systems. #lrnchat
04:50:02 pm simbeckhampson: @sifowler Did that last time, keyboard still smells of BBQ sauce🙂 #lrnchat
04:50:09 pm simbeckhampson: RT @TerrenceWing: @simbeckhampson I never sympathize with a company that has enough cash reserves to end world hunger. #lrnchat
04:50:11 pm madhuri361: #lrnchat #e20 Which is a bigger challenge? Defining the metrics to measure learning through Enterprise 2.0 or resistance to adoption?
04:50:14 pm odguru: @simbeckhampson and you as well! #lrnchat
04:50:20 pm janet_frg: @bschlenker Useful skill – was that formal or informal learning? 🙂 #lrnchat
04:50:27 pm StephanieDaul: Q1) We have Wikis but limited of number of people know about them. #lrnchat
04:50:33 pm simbeckhampson: @TerrenceWing Should companies be penalised for success? #lrnchat
04:50:42 pm sifowler: @simbeckhampson you say that like it’s a bad thing?🙂 #lrnchat
04:50:46 pm marciamarcia: The closest thing we have to 2.0 tools in use are shared heating and plumbing systems. #lrnchat RT @petersonandrew
04:51:31 pm CanadianPacMan: I won’t be able to join you all today. Next week is looking better though. #lrnchat
04:51:34 pm simbeckhampson: @StephanieDaul Like the closet wiki brigade… #lrnchat
04:52:11 pm drtimony: no 2.0 tools here. #lrnchat
04:52:21 pm janwebb21: RT @lrnchat: Q1a) Which Enterprise 2.0 tools does your organization use? Online communities? Microsharing? Wikis? #lrnchat
04:52:26 pm petersonandrew: Q1b) the diversity and general independent nature of higher education leaves me pessimistic for any mass acceptance of 2.0 #lrnchat
04:52:28 pm sifowler: Q1a) we have the capability & full org permission/support for all E2.0 tools – “use” however? #lrnchat
04:52:47 pm simbeckhampson: @sifowler In reply to Terence’s comment – never sympathize… #lrnchat
04:52:49 pm sifowler: RT @lrnchat: Q1b) Whats your orgs aim for using #e20 tools? Collaboration? Finding people? Status? Peer2peer learning? #lrnchat
04:52:49 pm StephanieDaul: @simbeckhampson We can use wikis on our SharePoint sites but they haven’t rolled that out to everyone yet #lrnchat
04:53:12 pm janwebb21: @lrnchat wikis and forums – for collaboration between pupils within class, between classes and further afield #lrnchat
04:53:14 pm marciamarcia: If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together. ~ African Proverb RT @scirillobarnes #lrnchat
04:53:16 pm TerrenceWing: @simbeckhampson Absolutely not. I’m a true blooded capitalist. #lrnchat
04:53:18 pm StephanieDaul: Q1) We use Yammer to microblog #lrnchat
04:53:29 pm ericgyoung: RT @simbeckhampson: RT @TerrenceWing: @simbeckhampson I never sympathize with a company that has enough cash reserves to end world hunger. #lrnchat
04:53:40 pm petersonandrew: RT @sifowler: Q1a) we have the capability & full org permission/support for all E2.0 tools – “use” however? #lrnchat
04:53:58 pm JasonFane: Q1.) We use blogs, wikis, youTube used mainly for collaboration purposes. #lrnchat
04:54:01 pm kunali: Kunali Sanghvi, New Jersey – interested in new trends and developments in learning #lrnchat
04:54:08 pm flowchainsensei: RT @marciamarcia: If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together. ~ African Proverb RT @scirillobarnes #lrnchat
04:54:17 pm janet_frg: RT @simbeckhampson: @StephanieDaul Like the closet wiki brigade… #lrnchat
04:54:25 pm janwebb21: we use because they support independent learning, peer-peer learning, peer-peer and self assessment #e20 #lrnchat
04:54:27 pm KristinTho: RT @marciamarcia: Today on #lrnchat (both early NOW & late 8:30p ET) on Enterprise 2.0 tools for Learning. Join us! http://lrnchat.com #e20
04:54:27 pm petersonandrew: @sifowler #lrnchat….. you can lead a horse to water ….
04:54:45 pm StephanieDaul: @JasonFane Just open YouTube on our network! #lrnchat
04:54:55 pm tonya_simmons: Q1) Internally, we use Google docs, and some of our clients have an intranet file sharing system, but most are reluctant #lrnchat
04:55:12 pm TerrenceWing: Q1 Forums work wonderful for pre and post training. We use often instead of Level 1 and 2 evaluations. #lrnchat
04:55:45 pm sifowler: Q1b) main focus for E2.0 tools is for collaboration but, yes, RT @petersonandrew … you can lead a horse to water …! #lrnchat
04:55:47 pm simbeckhampson: Q1a) I’m mixing it up when it comes to tools. Google & Amplify now the middle. FB, Twitter revolving, Ning dying. Elgg interesting. #lrnchat
04:55:49 pm StephanieDaul: We are getting a “corporate YouTube” but I haven’t seen it. It was part of a package deal with out video conf system #lrnchat
04:56:23 pm JasonFane: #lrnchat we also use Wimba tools, to connect with people globally, and arrange a classroom like environment as well. #lrnchat
04:56:46 pm StephanieDaul: RT @lrnchat: Q1a) Which Enterprise 2.0 tools does your organization use? Online communities? Microsharing? Wikis? #lrnchat
04:56:50 pm Rsuominen: Q1) Wiki, blogs, Twitter for collaboration and networking. #lrnchat
04:57:02 pm kunali: basecamp for work and yammer for knowledge sharing #lrnchat
04:57:12 pm andypalmer: RT @marciamarcia: If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together. ~ African Proverb RT @scirillobarnes #lrnchat
04:57:27 pm YvesHanoulle: RT @marciamarcia: If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together. ~ African Proverb RT @scirillobarnes #lrnchat
04:57:27 pm StephanieDaul: RT @lrnchat: Q1b) Whats your orgs aim for using #e20 tools? Collaboration? Finding people? Status? Peer2peer learning? #lrnchat
04:57:39 pm simbeckhampson: @TerrenceWing Glad to hear it🙂 #lrnchat
04:57:47 pm TerrenceWing: Q1 YouTube is better than an IT dept. I can learn how to use almost any software program without getting attitude. #lrnchat
04:58:29 pm tmiket: Q1 Yammer #lrnchat
04:58:42 pm Rsuominen: RT @marciamarcia If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together. African Proverb RT @scirillobarnes #lrnchat
04:58:52 pm JasonFane: #lrnchat related to Q1) How do you define what Web 2.0 really is? #lrnchat
04:58:55 pm sifowler: Q2b) we’re Our IT guy would borrow my phone all the time to see how to do something #lrnchat
05:02:48 pm TerrenceWing: RT @StephanieDaul: @tmiket Our IT guy would borrow my phone all the time to see how to do something #lrnchat
05:02:49 pm tmiket: @simbeckhampson If we can’t trust them maybe we shouldn’t hire them in the FIRST place huh? #lrnchat
05:02:54 pm TriciaRansom: I’m on a #lrnchat for next 30 minutes – please pardon my tweets! Or you can join us…2.0 tools and learning/development #lrnchat
05:02:55 pm simbeckhampson: @TerrenceWing Secret is safe with me…. and the rest of Twitterland (grin) #lrnchat
05:03:01 pm StephanieDaul: @sifowler Isn’t it people connecting with others just in a different media? #lrnchat
05:03:11 pm sifowler: @briggzay Hi Chris! alpha horse, yes! like First Follower concept: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW8amMCVAJQ #lrnchat
05:03:50 pm simbeckhampson: @tmiket Totally agree! With the blocking logic no one gets access to anything relevant and information flows from top down Grrr #lrnchat
05:04:21 pm TriciaRansom: Old org tried to use Twitter, LinkedIn for staffing/recruiting. Europe business units blocked access. Many emps used their cells #lrnchat
05:04:48 pm tmiket: @simbeckhampson Yes, but we are increasingly finding ways to go AROUND the official channels MUCH more efficient that way #lrnchat
05:04:52 pm torriedunlap: Hey followers, it’s #lrnchat time. Increased tweets for the next hour or so.
05:04:56 pm simbeckhampson: @tmiket My sentiments exactly, it is a fact that in the beginning everyone wants to do their best for the company – so what changes #lrnchat
05:05:06 pm lrnchat: Q2) What have you done to encourage people to use and learn with #e20 tools? #lrnchat
05:05:15 pm tonya_simmons: Q1b) we use google docs for knowledge sharing & collaboration – would be great to collaborate w/clients on scripts, #lrnchat (1 of 2)
05:05:16 pm sifowler: @StephanieDaul maybe, but it’s not “Enterprise 2.0” if no contrib from the org; it’s just a multi-channel TV station #lrnchat
05:05:22 pm TriciaRansom: RT @TerrenceWing: Q1 YouTube is better than IT dept. I can learn how to use almost any software program without getting attitude. #lrnchat
05:05:30 pm TerrenceWing: @LearningPutty Monkey see Monkey do finally worked to your advantage. #lrnchat
05:05:35 pm briggzay: @sifowler closely related concept, except the crazy dancing guy doesn’t have same earned power relation as an alpha horse. #lrnchat
05:05:43 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What have you done to encourage people to use and learn with #e20 tools? #lrnchat
05:05:47 pm simbeckhampson: @TriciaRansom Yes, Europe, the Germans especially are fanatical when it comes to security – paranoid – difficult. #lrnchat
05:06:03 pm tonya_simmons: Q1b) but many of them are reluctant b/c of proprietary info issues #lrnchat (2 of 2)
05:06:10 pm JasonFane: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What have you done to encourage people to use and learn with #e20 tools? #lrnchat
05:06:11 pm tmiket: RT @TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What have you done to encourage people to use and learn with #e20 tools? #lrnchat
05:06:31 pm TriciaRansom: @simbeckhampson Tell me about it! #lrnchat
05:06:35 pm StephanieDaul: Q2) We have built activities that use Web2.0 into our designs #lrnchat
05:06:51 pm TerrenceWing: @TriciaRansom Policy can’t stop a Learning Revolution. It can only place speedbumps in the path #lrnchat
05:06:51 pm simbeckhampson: @tmiket Here that often too, more closet learners – “Just nipping to the toilet boss…Mmm, must check twitter mobile to find…” #lrnchat
05:06:51 pm tmiket: QT: Use them myself and point others to it also – Show benefits for them aka WIIFM etc #lrnchat
05:06:52 pm mrch0mp3rs: #lrnchat Q2: what I have done? Well let me tell you…
05:06:58 pm sifowler: RT @briggzay: closely related concept, except the crazy dancing guy doesnt have same earned power relation as an alpha horse. #lrnchat
05:07:01 pm Rsuominen: Certain tools or services? @JasonFane #lrnchat related to Q1) How do you define what Web 2.0 really is?
05:07:19 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) I proved how Twitter and my tweeps cut my development time. Boss had no prob w/me on their after that #lrnchat
05:07:20 pm StephanieDaul: Instead of having a conference call we will start a discussion thread on SharePoint #lrnchat
05:07:44 pm drtimony: Q2) Sharing of articles/blogs/opinions/reviews from and about these sources has helped to soften some hard heads. #stubborn #lrnchat
05:07:56 pm janwebb21: RT @tmiket: QT: Use them myself and point others to it also – Show benefits for them aka WIIFM etc #lrnchat
05:08:09 pm simbeckhampson: @TriciaRansom Its about fear of losing control and its not easy to change. Every new retirement is a step in the right direction. #lrnchat
05:08:16 pm tonya_simmons: Q2) we’re small <20, so encouraging 2.0 is easy – our Pres/VP actively encourage Twitter/FB/etc. for connecting/learning #lrnchat
05:08:16 pm TerrenceWing: Grt time saver RT @StephanieDaul: Instead of having a conference call we will start a discussion thread on SharePoint #lrnchat
05:08:36 pm simbeckhampson: @TriciaRansom Nice to hear a pos. story🙂 #lrnchat
05:08:42 pm sifowler: can't see Q2 from @lrnchat, can someone RT please #lrnchat
05:08:49 pm StephanieDaul: Q2) Use lrnchat to connect and build a network #lrnchat
05:08:54 pm busynessgirl: Can someone define Enterprise 2.0 Tools? #lrnchat
05:09:03 pm tmiket: Q2 Show how it can solve an existing problem..often it is presented as a solution looking for a problem #lrnchat
05:09:08 pm cbcurran: RT @StephanieDaul @lrnchat: Q1b) Whats your orgs aim for using #e20 tools? Collaboration, etc… #lrnchat | one view http://bit.ly/bw4fH7
05:09:10 pm tonya_simmons: Q2) I'm new to industry, so that's why I'm here – mostly soaking it all in – someday maybe I'll have something smart to contribute #lrnchat
05:09:17 pm TerrenceWing: @tonya_simmons We are all green with envy #lrnchat
05:09:26 pm simbeckhampson: @tonya_simmons Amplify is the missing link – check it out if your using twitter, fb and blogging. Great group Amplogs too. #lrnchat
05:09:32 pm KristinTho: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What have you done to encourage people to use and learn with #e20 tools? #lrnchat
05:09:34 pm TriciaRansom: hmm Policy might not, mngr attitude can: RT @TerrenceWing: Policy cant stop Learning Revolution-it only place speedbumps the path #lrnchat
05:09:41 pm mrch0mp3rs: Q2) What have you done to encourage people to use and learn with #e20 tools? #lrnchat /via @lrnchat
05:09:41 pm simbeckhampson: RT @TerrenceWing: @TriciaRansom Policy can't stop a Learning Revolution. It can only place speedbumps in the path #lrnchat
05:09:47 pm marciamarcia: What's Web 2.0? Web apps facilitating interaction between ppl & content, not just brochureware c:@JasonFane #lrnchat
05:09:48 pm tmiket: @busynessgirl Does 2.0 tools = easy for users/learners to create & share their own content instead of just consuming it? #lrnchat
05:09:59 pm petersonandrew: RT simbeckhampson Every new retirement is a step in the right direction. #lrnchat
05:10:34 pm tonya_simmons: @TerrenceWing I'm sitting in my very open office doing #lrnchat right now🙂
05:10:35 pm sifowler: @tonya_simmons methinks you have something smart to contribute now; your intuitive questions will teach us #lrnchat
05:10:42 pm kunali: wondering if there is research done to prove or disprove advantage of web 2.0 in learning … ideas anyone? #lrnchat
05:10:45 pm drtimony: Remaining trepidations about web resources. still stress~new interfaces, unfamiliar touch/feel, 'all those' passwords, expecations #lrnchat
05:10:47 pm DBTK_Learning: Great tip! RT @StephanieDaul: Instead of having a conference call we will start a discussion thread on SharePoint #lrnchat
05:10:47 pm petersonandrew: Policy can't stop a revolution, but budgets certainly seem to be able to. #lrnchat
05:10:48 pm KristinTho: Great tip! RT @StephanieDaul: Instead of having a conference call we will start a discussion thread on SharePoint #lrnchat
05:11:09 pm odguru: RT @petersonandrew: RT simbeckhampson Every new retirement is a step in the right direction. #lrnchat
05:11:17 pm janwebb21: @simbeckhampson but along with that retirement wealth of experience can be lost – mustn't throw baby out with bathwater #lrnchat
05:11:29 pm StephanieDaul: Q2) I've shared what I do to connect outside my department with others and encouraged them to do the same #lrnchat
05:11:29 pm LearningPutty: Q2) I have found that simply talking to people about it is helpful. Many people are intimidated by #e20. #lrnchat
05:11:31 pm simbeckhampson: Q2) Inject passion and compassion, lead by example and explore until the mix fits. #lrnchat
05:11:34 pm denniscallahan: Q2). Encourage ppl to try 2.0 as a way to learn more about what they are passionate about 1st (ex: hobby) #lrnchat
05:11:37 pm torriedunlap: Q2) promote at F2F, offer incentives & cross promote #lrnchat
05:11:55 pm mrch0mp3rs: #lrnchat lead fellow employees by example. Have the courage to respectfully contribute your own expertise in the "open" organization.
05:11:56 pm marciamarcia: In training terms, then, web 2.0 implies people learning together not just from instructor or elearning app. #lrnchat
05:12:20 pm TerrenceWing: @TriciaRansom People will learn. They'll just go out of network 2 do it. Even a bad manager is reduced 2 irrelevance #lrnchat
05:12:27 pm drtimony: Students could always get past security. Now it's us! RT @TerrenceWing: Policy cant stop Learning Revolution-only speedbumps #lrnchat
05:12:28 pm StephanieDaul: Q2) I got some of my coworkers in a room and taught them how to participate in lrnchat – @MiraBell #lrnchat
05:12:30 pm odguru: @LearningPutty _ agreed and also find a better response if I talk about specific apps and uses. Can't say "enterprise 2.0" #lrnchat
05:12:36 pm tmiket: Q2: Any new tool has to be VASTLY superior to what it's replacing..not just a little better ..otherwise it's not likely to stick #lrnchat
05:12:41 pm janet_frg: RT @simbeckhampson: @tonya_simmons Amplify is the missing link – check it out… Great group Amplogs too. #lrnchat << agreed ! great tool
05:12:42 pm TriciaRansom: @simbeckhampson Not all older emps fear tech…lots of younger emps fear sharing knowledge (think knowledge = power/control). #lrnchat
05:13:05 pm LearningPutty: @TerrenceWing About time eh! LOL – actually we finally had a business case for it when the FDA started to use You Tube. #lrnchat
05:13:19 pm simbeckhampson: @janwebb21 Yes, fine balance, getting the horse is tough. Try one or two times then out with old in with the new. #lrnchat
05:13:20 pm mrch0mp3rs: #lrnchat re: learning, think of using 2.0 tools for experiential; "e-learning" tends to be didactic.
05:13:22 pm tmiket: @mrch0mp3rs I think that transparency is one of the biggest advantages of 2.0 stuff #lrnchat
05:13:28 pm TriciaRansom: RT @tmiket: Q2: Any new tool has to be VASTLY superior to what its replacing-not just a little better-otherwise not likely to stick #lrnchat
05:13:37 pm StephanieDaul: RT @mrch0mp3rs: lead fellow employees by example. Have the courage to respectfully contribute your own expertise in the "open" org. #lrnchat
05:13:37 pm gwleibniz: Together with @newton1665, I'm encouraging others to use twitter as a way to learn some of the history of math. #lrnchat
05:13:46 pm denniscallahan: Q2) experimenting w/ non work related content might help ppl see how 2.0 fits into their work #lrnchat
05:13:53 pm drtimony: Q2) when teaching my future educators I pass on ideas to use tools IRL. Tweet in class?! They are so stuck in (our) old ways… #lrnchat
05:14:10 pm LearningPutty: @odguru Exactly! Terms like "Social Media" or #e20 are big and scary. Why make it sound more complex than it is? #lrnchat
05:14:16 pm petersonandrew: @janwebb21 #lrnchat we have 5 people retiring this year, for a total of over 150 years of experience at our college
05:14:25 pm tmiket: Q2: I avoid using the word "social"-anything – many people have negative preconceptions #lrnchat
05:14:39 pm odguru: " training department" oft the biggest issue Mid set and skill set changing slowly and not a lot of headspace for the new. #lrnchat
05:14:43 pm StephanieDaul: @denniscallahan Our first activities in a design are not about content but how to use the tools #lrnchat
05:14:44 pm Rsuominen: RT @tmiket @busynessgirl Does 2.0 tools = easy for users to create & share their own content instead of just consuming it? #lrnchat
05:14:51 pm sifowler: @tmiket yes, I think the research says the new has to have 3x value of old for people to change (don't know how they measure that) #lrnchat
05:14:58 pm simbeckhampson: @janet_frg We know Janet…🙂 Here's an inspired post I wrote yesterday after talking with their CEO – http://bit.ly/ab6rGf #lrnchat
05:15:03 pm drtimony: It cannot be novel. It has to be seamless and have instant relevance to life outside of work. That produces fluency with the tech. #lrnchat
05:15:05 pm janet_frg: @TriciaRansom yes, knowledge "ownership" is still a major currency of clout and control; I see that starting to erode, though #lrnchat
05:15:16 pm TriciaRansom: In ILT I encourage my learners to learn/share w/each other. Want to do that via e-learning too. Sharing = sharing ILT or ebased #lrnchat
05:15:20 pm tmiket: Q2: Encourage playful experimentation- Be curious, try and learn new things – It's OK REALLY! #lrnchat
05:15:25 pm LearningPutty: @drtimony So true, if people use the technology in their lives then it is easier to transfer to business. Start a Twitter club! #lrnchat
05:15:26 pm StephanieDaul: RT @odguru: " training department"oft the biggest issue Mid set and skill set changng slowly and not a lot of headspace for the new #lrnchat
05:15:41 pm busynessgirl: Q2) I teach students to use digital tools to further their learning: blogs, mindmaps, animoto, prezi … and then watch it spread. #lrnchat
05:15:46 pm TerrenceWing: Web 2.0 doesn't make us less human, it enhances our humanity by allowing us to connect and build on our collective #lrnchat
05:15:55 pm cbcurran: #e20 Adoption idea 1: start w the platform most people have – dont use web first if everyone is on blackberry/email #lrnchat
05:16:08 pm janwebb21: RT @marciamarcia: In training terms, then, web 2.0 implies people learning together not just from instructor or elearning app. #lrnchat
05:16:10 pm mrch0mp3rs: #lrnchat the social tools help put the fun back in functional. There's a place for humor: it drives constructive discouse; also w/ conflict
05:16:11 pm TriciaRansom: @janet_frg Knowledge Ownership. I like that! #lrnchat
05:16:16 pm odguru: @janet_frg @TriciaRansom being IN the know is actually better than knowing for savvy folks – knowing who to talk to where to look #lrnchat
05:16:30 pm StephanieDaul: Q2) Encourage not matter what level they are using it at #lrnchat
05:16:35 pm mrch0mp3rs: Web 2.0 doesn't make us less human, it enhances our humanity by allowing us to connect and build on our collective #lrnchat /@TerrenceWing
05:16:43 pm tmiket: RT @StephanieDaul: RT @odguru: impossible for training dept to keep up with the knowledge and skills of the experts. #lrnchat
05:16:53 pm cbcurran: #e20 Adoption idea 2: allow voting for best content, make best contribs visible, give real awards for best ideas/contribs #lrnchat
05:16:56 pm marciamarcia: Enterprise 2.0, in this context, is social software & practices w/in org to connect people around key topics. #lrnchat
05:16:56 pm JudithELS: @TriciaRansom agree with using them in e-Learning, I'm doing this with current health/med prog that I'm working on #lrnchat
05:17:15 pm simbeckhampson: @janet_frg And today this post arrived from Joe Hackman – a great starters guide for Amplify. http://bit.ly/dgwnBD #lrnchat
05:17:22 pm Rsuominen: RT @denniscallahan Q2) Encourage ppl to try 2.0 as a way to learn more about what they are passionate about #lrnchat
05:17:30 pm janwebb21: @marciamarcia it's about constructing own knowledge and understanding, giving ownership /responisbility back to learner, engaging #lrnchat
05:17:38 pm TriciaRansom: @odguru @janet_frg In ILT I tell learners I might not know answers, but know where to go to find them…and thats what I teach them #lrnchat
05:17:44 pm StephanieDaul: Got an email from my mgr yesterday point out an blog she found via Yammer🙂 #lrnchat
05:17:56 pm simbeckhampson: RT @tmiket: @mrch0mp3rs I think that transparency is one of the biggest advantages of 2.0 stuff > Got an email from my mgr yesterday point out an blog she found via Yammer🙂 #lrnchat /via @StephanieDaul
05:19:11 pm sifowler: 1/2 RT @marciamarcia: Enterprise 2.0, in this context, is social software & practices w/in org to connect people around key topics. #lrnchat
05:19:18 pm TriciaRansom: Or too many bad experiences of IT NOT fixing tech issues…or scaring them w/tech jargon #lrnchat
05:19:19 pm janet_frg: @simbeckhampson thanks for links – need to chat w/you more about how you are using Amplify. #lrnchat
05:19:20 pm espnguyen: RT @TerrenceWing: Web 2.0 doesn’t make us less human, it enhances our humanity by allowing us 2 connect and build on our collective #lrnchat
05:19:22 pm rosamariatorres: Haha RT @petersonandrew the closest thing we have to 2.0 tools in use are shared heating & plumbing systems Q1)Enterprise 2.0 tools #lrnchat
05:19:31 pm marciamarcia: 2.0 moniker, often just refers to #nextnew but should refer to working smarter together. #lrnchat http://cl.lk/2do.over
05:19:46 pm simbeckhampson: @TriciaRansom Like it – knowledge = power/control, thanks for sharing. #lrnchat
05:19:52 pm Rsuominen: RT @odguru Exactly! Terms like “Social Media” or #e20 are big and scary. Why make it sound more complex than it is? #lrnchat
05:19:56 pm TriciaRansom: RT @TerrenceWing: Web 2.0 doesnt make us less human, it enhances our humanity by allowing us 2 connect and build on our collective #lrnchat
05:20:08 pm petersonandrew: RT @TriciaRansom: Hard for ppl in old org to use these tools. Many afraid of tech, and too many bad experiences w/IT “fixing” issues #lrnchat
05:20:09 pm deb_lavoy: RT @marciamarcia: 2.0 moniker, often just refers to #nextnew but should refer to working smarter together. #lrnchat http://cl.lk/2do.over
05:20:32 pm simbeckhampson: @janet_frg Anytime… #lrnchat
05:20:43 pm janwebb21: @simbeckhampson I find that difficult to understand when we are trying to support colleagues towards/through change in caring prof #lrnchat
05:21:01 pm scottmerrett: RT @TriciaRansom knowledge “ownership” is still a major currency of control VM<IRL there are limits to availability. Dynamic decision making about quality/function of comm. #lrnchat
05:22:21 pm TriciaRansom: Adios my fellow #lrnchat-ers! Off to pick mom up from the airport…hoping to catch 2nights session…learned tons already! #lrnchat
05:22:37 pm janwebb21: RT @StephanieDaul: Ppl forget we have always been social now we just do it virtually and transparent not at the water cooler #lrnchat
05:22:43 pm simbeckhampson: @janwebb21 It is difficult… agreed, magic answer, none – tip: compassion for others. #lrnchat
05:23:05 pm sifowler: yesbut, changing workplace IS more complex RT @Rsuominen: RT @odguru"Social Media" #e20 Why make it sound more complex than it is? #lrnchat
05:23:07 pm michaelcjohnson: RT @StephanieDaul: Ppl forget we have always been social now we just do it virtually and transparent not at the water cooler #lrnchat
05:23:18 pm marciamarcia: Enterprise 2.0 is not only about technology. It's about improved practices that can be augmented w/ social tools. #lrnchat
05:23:19 pm simbeckhampson: @janwebb21 I'm quite young (ish) erm, well at least at heart😉 #lrnchat
05:23:26 pm tonya_simmons: @TerrenceWing nope, it's totally sanctioned #lrnchat
05:23:30 pm petersonandrew: RT @simbeckhampson: @janwebb21 It is difficult… agreed, magic answer, none – tip: compassion for others. #lrnchat
05:23:52 pm StephanieDaul: @TriciaRansom older ppl get tech in biz because that's where they learned it. Ynger grew up w/it less biz so they don't use it #lrnchat
05:23:58 pm Mid247: RT @marciamarcia: Enterprise 2.0 is not only about technology. Its about improved practices that can be augmented w/ social tools. #lrnchat
05:24:26 pm webtechman: RT @marciamarcia Enterprise 2.0 is not only about technology. It's about improved practices that can be augmented w/ social tools. #lrnchat
05:24:33 pm lrnchat: Q3) What support would you like from others in your org or the #lrnchat community to help support your efforts?
05:24:49 pm sifowler: E2.0 workplaces are less structured, more complex; and we have to learn to thrive in that (right, @briggzay ?!) #lrnchat
05:24:57 pm Mid247: RT @Rsuominen: RT @odguru Exactly! Terms like "Social Media" or #e20 are big and scary. Why make it sound more complex than it is? #lrnchat
05:25:01 pm tmiket: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What support would you like from others in your org or the #lrnchat community to help support your efforts?
05:25:12 pm simbeckhampson: @Rsuominen @odguru Agree – keep terminology to a minimim… #lrnchat
05:25:14 pm sifowler: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What support would you like from others in your org or the #lrnchat community to help support your efforts? #lrnchat
05:25:24 pm TerrenceWing: Q2 Help people break through some of the misconceptions about SoMe. It's doesn't have 2b about reading a silly status. #lrnchat
05:25:30 pm Mid247: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What support would you like from others in your org or the #lrnchat community to help support your efforts? #lrnchat
05:25:33 pm janwebb21: @simbeckhampson Young at heart too- you are right – compassion is essential for healthy prof relationships and moving practice fwd #lrnchat
05:25:37 pm tmiket: Q3: Willingness to try new things #lrnchat
05:25:55 pm janet_frg: RT @StephanieDaul: Ppl forget: have always been social now do it virtually & transparent not @ water cooler #lrnchat http://bit.ly/dfvbAC #lrnchat
05:28:39 pm simbeckhampson: RT @StephanieDaul: Q3) Recognition for trying new things #lrnchat
05:28:42 pm denniscallahan: Q)2 If you’re not open & trusting of sharing, 2.0 isn’t going to do that for you. It’s still up to you. #lrnchat
05:28:48 pm simbeckhampson: RT @JudithELS: Q3: help with keeping up-to-date with an ever-increasing ‘tool kit’ to assess strengths & weaknesses of each #lrnchat
05:28:50 pm Mid247: Q3 (community) capture enthusiasm, share good stories but dont over sell outcomes #lrnchat
05:29:06 pm espnguyen: Q3) A willingness to experiment without needing a “framework” or “governance”. #lrnchat
05:29:26 pm Du4: RT @marciamarcia: 2.0 moniker, often just refers to #nextnew but should refer to working smarter together. #lrnchat http://cl.lk/2do.over
05:29:28 pm scottmerrett: Q3) Org: Incorporate e20 into the strategy. Make it part of the vision. #lrnchat
05:29:32 pm marciamarcia: @kunali To ask if web 2.0 is proven for learning is like asking if people learning together is proven useful. Context matters big. #lrnchat
05:29:33 pm drtimony: Q3) must take time before including tech. Tech for tech’s sake is shameful and wastes lots of time=bitter employees. #frustration #lrnchat
05:29:47 pm renshine: @tmiket @lrnchat Q3,A: I would like to know that the #lrnchat community is there to tap for support, as needed, as a community of practice
05:29:53 pm sifowler: @drtimony I agree on fluency, intuitive, but it won’t be easy b/c we’re undergoing massive change in how we work, esp. wrt ‘power’ #lrnchat
05:29:59 pm Mid247: RT @StephanieDaul: Permission to fail and learn from the failure #lrnchat
05:30:09 pm StephanieDaul: RT @espnguyen: Q3) A willingness to experiment without needing a “framework” or “governance”. or Benchmark! #lrnchat
05:30:34 pm TriciaRansom: Yes! RT @StephanieDaul: Ppl forget we have always been social now we just do it virtually and transparent not at the water cooler #lrnchat
05:30:50 pm JudithELS: @simbeckhampson Q3: many thanks for all your tweets in this regard Paul, you have been a great help as well as Marcia @marciamarcia #lrnchat
05:31:11 pm tmiket: Q3 A willingness to accept value without a 20pg business case or exhaustive ROI analysis #lrnchat
05:31:21 pm sifowler: And willingness to forgive others RT @Mid247: RT @StephanieDaul: Permission to fail and learn from the failure #lrnchat
05:31:26 pm mlearncon: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What support would you like from others in your org or the #lrnchat community to help support your efforts?
05:31:50 pm bschlenker: RT @GuyKawasaki: Steve Jobs writes open letter to Flash http://tinyurl.com/2blzqyh #lrnchat #offtopic
05:31:58 pm StephanieDaul: @tmiket A good ROI is when the client has a smile on their face #lrnchat
05:31:59 pm simbeckhampson: Q3) Share with each other – filter who’s good at what. Swop skills for no $ or good discounts… I’m ready to listen… touch base. #lrnchat
05:32:28 pm simbeckhampson: @bschlenker DRINK.. is there a drink fine for off topic? #lrnchat
05:32:48 pm drtimony: @sifowler I’m not concerned with it being hard. Thoughtful design/choice/fit to industry and population-does it make work better? #lrnchat
05:32:52 pm tmiket: Exactly! RT @StephanieDaul: @tmiket A good ROI is when the client has a smile on their face #lrnchat
05:32:58 pm AveyCa: Presented @ CLO breakfast in Atlanta. CLOs interested n Leadership development & MICROLEARNING #astd #clomedia #xerox #acs #lrnchat
05:33:04 pm michellv123: RT @marciamarcia: 2.0 moniker, often just refers to #nextnew but should refer to working smarter together. #lrnchat http://cl.lk/2do.over
05:33:10 pm StephanieDaul: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What support would you like from others in your org or the #lrnchat community to help support your efforts? #lrnchat
05:33:29 pm marciamarcia: @kunali If person who knows something you need to know can be engaged thru web 2.0, then yes! To practice ocean sailing, no. #lrnchat
05:33:36 pm sifowler: yup, with you RT @drtimony: @sifowler Thoughtful design/choice/fit to industry and population-does it make work better? #lrnchat
05:33:47 pm denniscallahan: RT @marciamarcia: @kunali To ask if web 2.0 is proven for learning is like asking if people learning together is proven useful. Context matters big. #lrnchat
05:33:49 pm simbeckhampson: @JudithELS Thanks Judith, passion and energy are abundant, as Marcia knows – refining and filtering in progress😉 #lrnchat
05:34:03 pm espnguyen: @bschlenker Rule #2 of #lrnchat: TRY to stay on the #lrnchat topic🙂
05:34:07 pm tonya_simmons: Q3) I learn tons from y’all & def. get sup. internally, but it would be really cool to design a course w/ forum or 2.0 component… #lrnchat
05:34:09 pm Marcio_Saito: RT @marciamarcia: If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together. ~ African Proverb RT @scirillobarnes #lrnchat
05:34:12 pm TerrenceWing: Could use #lrnchat help on 5/6 at 12:30 PT 4 ASTD LA chapter webinar on Twitter. I’ll be tweeting 2 demo & would love responses to #astdla
05:34:16 pm LearningPutty: Q3) Keep sharing your successes and failures!! #lrnchat
05:34:17 pm danlarsen: RT @marciamarcia: Enterprise 2.0 is not only about technology. It’s about improved practices that can be augmented w/ social tools. #lrnchat
05:35:06 pm KristinTho: RT @marciamarcia: 2.0 moniker, often just refers to #nextnew but should refer to working smarter together. #lrnchat http://cl.lk/2do.over
05:35:17 pm tigerlily7a: Love that! RT @tmiket: Exactly! RT @StephanieDaul: @tmiket A good ROI is when the client has a smile on their face #lrnchat #in
05:35:36 pm teresamclaren: RT @bschlenker: RT @GuyKawasaki: Steve Jobs writes open letter to Flash http://tinyurl.com/2blzqyh #lrnchat #offtopic
05:35:42 pm JudithELS: RT @LearningPutty: Q3) Keep sharing your successes and failures!! I agree – we don’t do enough of the latter I think #lrnchat
05:35:48 pm sifowler: RT @LearningPutty: Q3) Keep sharing your successes and failures!! #lrnchat
05:36:15 pm Mid247: RT @StephanieDaul: Q3) Recognition for trying new things #lrnchat
05:36:38 pm denniscallahan: Exactly! RT @StephanieDaul: @tmiket A good ROI is when the client has a smile on their face #lrnchat
05:36:48 pm janet_frg: Q3) sometimes necessity gives the push to change. Have a geo-dispersed group- we started doing collab via Wave – caught on fast #lrnchat
05:37:08 pm simbeckhampson: Share SUCCESS: In case it’s not clear in my message this evening – AMPLIFY! Need support? ie. screensharing or resources, DM me. #lrnchat
05:37:14 pm bschlenker: @simbeckhampson @espnguyen yes I TRIED & yes there IS a drink fine – however, I must pay my fine during late night #lrnchat
05:37:40 pm TerrenceWing: @ASTDLA is looking for speakers on Social Media for Chapter Meetings and Workshops. Let me know if you know anyone #lrnchat
05:38:11 pm StephanieDaul: Q3) Being ok with someone else takes the credit for the “new” thing when you have been talking about for months #lrnchat
05:38:22 pm simbeckhampson: is brilliant🙂 #lrnchat
05:38:59 pm briandusablon: RT @marciamarcia: Enterprise 2.0 is not only about technology. Its about improved practices that can be augmented w/ social tools. #lrnchat
05:39:05 pm LearningPutty: @TerrenceWing Any specific topics of interest? #lrnchat
05:39:10 pm tmiket: @StephanieDaul Best way to get something done..make them think it was THEIR idea!😎 #lrnchat
05:39:29 pm vincentmaurin: RT @GuyKawasaki: Steve Jobs writes open letter to Flash http://tinyurl.com/2blzqyh #lrnchat #offtopic (via @bschlenker)
05:39:31 pm sifowler: Q3) need senior leaders need to model E2.0 practices if org culture/practices are going to change (OR bottom-up cohorts) #lrnchat
05:39:50 pm simbeckhampson: Consider going beyond tweeting into video chats too – seeing each other is also important – Zorap is cool for Ning & FB #lrnchat
05:40:15 pm simbeckhampson: @StephanieDaul That requires lots of ZEN🙂 #lrnchat
05:40:45 pm simbeckhampson: RT @marciamarcia: Enterprise 2.0 is not only about technology. Its about improved practices that can be augmented w/ social tools. #lrnchat
05:40:58 pm sifowler: Q3) need org to see how appallingly weak email is for most collaboration, decision-making, innovation, relationships #lrnchat
05:41:43 pm tmiket: @sifowler Email = where info/knowledge go to die #lrnchat
05:41:43 pm kunali: @marciamarcia my question regarding research on effectiveness of web 2.0 tools directly feeds into Q3) sometimes mgmt needs proof #lrnchat
05:41:58 pm simbeckhampson: @sifowler Providing support for the board room is the KEY #lrnchat
05:42:22 pm RayJimenez: Q4) #lrnchat small wins, deeper collaboration helps zero in value at work #lrnchat
05:42:23 pm mrch0mp3rs: @StephanieDaul Best way to get something done..make them think it was THEIR idea!😎 #lrnchat /via @tmiket
05:42:23 pm briandusablon: @sifowler Good luck with that. Most orgs seem content with email. Especially when sharing docs/files, rather than SP or Google. #lrnchat
05:42:58 pm denniscallahan: @tmiket @StephanieDaul – yes, don’t worry about getting credit, keep end goal in mind #lrnchat
05:43:07 pm TerrenceWing: SoMe as it relates to Learning/Training RT @LearningPutty Any specific topics of interest? #lrnchat
05:43:31 pm StephanieDaul: @kunali Is it proof or sometimes is it a unwillingness to take a risk? #lrnchat
05:43:41 pm sifowler: q3) wld love to see more #lrnchat conversation about “E2.0 for learning” vs than the tiresome informal/formal discussion #lrnchat
05:43:46 pm TerrenceWing: @RayJimenez Hi Ray
#lrnchat
05:44:01 pm simbeckhampson: The art of teaching is clarity and the art of learning is to listen. #lrnchat
05:44:07 pm lrnchat: Q4) What’s limiting you from using #e20 tools to help people in your org learn? What will you do about it? #lrnchat
05:44:08 pm sifowler: q3) wld love to see more #lrnchat conversation about “E2.0 for learning” rather than the tiresome informal/formal discussion #lrnchat
05:44:29 pm tmiket: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What’s limiting you from using #e20 tools to help people in your org learn? What will you do about it? #lrnchat
05:44:42 pm RayJimenez: @TerrenceWing #lrnchat HI Terrence, I am just listening here.. #lrnchat
05:44:44 pm tmiket: Q4: Some of them being blocked #lrnchat
05:44:45 pm simbeckhampson: @sifowler Did you just use the ‘informal’ word – DRINK😉 #lrnchat
05:44:46 pm janwebb21: @RayJimenez #lrnchat why ever not? aren’t the small wins SMART targets on way to developing practice? Colllaboration = snowballing ideas,
05:44:56 pm TerrenceWing: RT @lrnchat: Q4) Whats limiting you from using #e20 tools to help people in your org learn? What will you do about it? #lrnchat
05:44:59 pm simbeckhampson: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What’s limiting you from using #e20 tools to help people in your org learn? What will you do about it? #lrnchat
05:45:22 pm sifowler: @briandusablon email for doc sharing is a chronic, chronic problem, what have you found that helps change that? #lrnchat
05:45:32 pm janwebb21: @RayJimenez #lrnchat and building prof relationships/respect between colleagues – things that have immeasuraable value
05:45:55 pm JudithELS: Got to go. Apols for lack of input but learned loads (stopped scripting in the end as chat was so good!) #lrnchat
05:45:56 pm StephanieDaul: Q4) Our lack of trust to try something, fail, learn from that and move on. #lrnchat
05:46:12 pm briandusablon: Q4) managers. Solution: trying to educate. Secondary issue: marketing and recruiting “own” our social media… #lrnchat
05:46:13 pm espnguyen: Q4) People’s unwillingness to let go of email, word, excel, etc. Need to continue to show value of E2.0 as substitute #lrnchat
05:46:16 pm sifowler: erm, no! erm, it was a, erm, typo! butI’llstilldrink RT @simbeckhampson: @sifowler Did you just use the informal word – DRINK😉 #lrnchat
05:46:17 pm tmiket: @sifowler We always preach the “publish & point sermon” re:emailing documents..slowly starting to take hold #lrnchat
05:46:17 pm RayJimenez: @janwebb21 Absolutely, small wins, under radar; but there strong temptation to have bombastic, fantastic expectations. #lrnchat
05:46:18 pm marciamarcia: @kunali Start w/ Enterprise 2.0 by Andrew McAfee @amcafee. This summer The New Social Learning will be out. #lrnchat
05:46:29 pm sifowler: RT @lrnchat: Q4) Whats limiting you from using #e20 tools to help people in your org learn? What will you do about it? #lrnchat
05:46:45 pm StephanieDaul: Q4) Lack of Change Management that needs to go with new ideas #lrnchat
05:46:45 pm espnguyen: @sifowler Model behavior by linking to docs. #lrnchat
05:47:10 pm scottmerrett: RT @marciamarcia: Enterprise 2.0 about improved practices… Yes! A lot of talk about tools. Not enough about ‘improved practices’. #lrnchat
05:47:16 pm Mid247: RT @lrnchat: Q4) Whats limiting you from using #e20 tools to help people in your org learn? What will you do about it? #lrnchat
05:47:22 pm simbeckhampson: Q4) Consider what you give your attention to each day. It’s a precious resource, & determines shape of your life. (info overload) #lrnchat
05:47:26 pm briandusablon: @sifowler trying to get people to use SharePoint (b/c it’s what we have) and using alerts vs. sending the actual file. #lrnchat
05:47:34 pm TerrenceWing: Q4 Biggest limit is misconceptions. EDUCATION is the 1st step especially when dealing with SoMe naive targets #lrnchat
05:47:39 pm Mid247: RT @StephanieDaul: Q4) Lack of Change Management that needs to go with new ideas #lrnchat
05:47:40 pm RayJimenez: Q4) #lrnchat I wanted to just listen, but can’t control myself.. ha ha ha .. #lrnchat
05:47:42 pm tmiket: @espnguyen Oh for the day we can get to the world of collaborative documents! #lrnchat
05:48:07 pm StephanieDaul: Q4) Leaders not understanding how to use different tools (tech and non tech) #lrnchat
05:48:17 pm sifowler: thanks RT @espnguyen model behavior by linking to docs & RT @tmiket: preach the “publish & point sermon” re:emailing documents.. #lrnchat
05:48:34 pm Mid247: RT @espnguyen: Q4) Peoples unwillingness to let go of email, word, excel, etc. Need to continue to show value of E2.0 as substitute #lrnchat
05:48:50 pm sifowler: RT @briandusablon: @sifowler trying to get people to use SharePoint (b/c its what we have) & using alerts vs. sending actual file. #lrnchat
05:49:08 pm janwebb21: @RayJimenez being bombastic about introducing new tools/pedagogies OR having expectations that are too high will guarantee fail #lrnchat
05:49:10 pm briandusablon: Don’t understand the concept or value either! > RT @StephanieDaul: Q4) Leaders not understanding how to use different tools #lrnchat
05:49:18 pm StephanieDaul: @sifowler Using what you have helps build a stronger biz case when you need something else #lrnchat
05:49:26 pm simbeckhampson: @marciamarcia It’s about improved practices that can be augmented w/ social tools. Agree, finding the balance and harmony is key. #lrnchat
05:49:37 pm drtimony: Q4) Consider the population and the applications that are fluid across domains. What are they and can we replicate? #lrnchat
05:49:43 pm janwebb21: @RayJimenez depends if we come from ego trip point of view or from wanting to improve learning for kids #lrnchat
05:49:45 pm rosamariatorres: Why focus #learning on #listening? RT @simbeckhampson The art of teaching is clarity and the art of learning is to listen. #lrnchat
05:50:09 pm TerrenceWing: Q4 Some orgs believe they need 2 jump into as many tools as r available. Start w/ 1 that meets most of ur needs #lrnchat
05:50:37 pm StephanieDaul: We use SharePoint because it was there, no IT involvement, no $ needed. Now we know what we REALLY need. #lrnchat
05:50:40 pm torriedunlap: Q4) My limitation is not alienating people with too advanced tech, but still bringing them along. #lrnchat
05:50:48 pm madhuri361: #e20 #lrnchat Q4) Org culture; folks glued to email
05:51:00 pm kellygarber: RT @marciamarcia: Enterprise 2.0 is not only about technology. It’s about improved practices that can be augmented w/ social tools. #lrnchat
05:51:00 pm DesignbyM2: RT @marciamarcia: Enterprise 2.0 is not only about technology. It’s about improved practices that can be augmented w/ social tools. #lrnchat
05:51:10 pm TerrenceWing: RT @StephanieDaul: We use SharePoint because it was there, no IT involvement, no $ needed. Now we know what we REALLY need. #lrnchat
05:51:14 pm RayJimenez: @janwebb21 I agree.. self means .. learning within to appreciate. #lrnchat
05:51:26 pm irenarco: @rosamariatorres @simbeckhampson I think #learning is also doing. / #lrnchat
05:51:43 pm StephanieDaul: Collobration in not a tool it’s a behavior! #lrnchat
05:51:48 pm sifowler: @terrencewing not education as in “information”? but education: impact story told by experimental group #lrnchat
05:51:56 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links & requests (or shameless plugs) welcome, too. #lrnchat
05:51:56 pm scottmerrett: RT @TerrenceWing: Q4 Start w/ 1 that meets most of ur needs RT @torriedunlap: Q4) not alienating people w/ advanced tech, still bring them along. #lrnchat #lrnchat
05:52:26 pm amphiboly: RT @torriedunlap: Q4) My limitation is not alienating people with too advanced tech, but still bringing them along. #lrnchat
05:52:43 pm RayJimenez: q4) #lrnchat – this is organic self driven process, must be based on self-realized successes and emotional experience, not theory #lrnchat
05:52:48 pm janwebb21: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links & requests (or shameless plugs) welcome, too. #lrnchat
05:53:19 pm simbeckhampson: @irenarco and doing too… (testing, trying…) #lrnchat
05:53:23 pm janwebb21: thanks for interesting #lrnchat must go now
05:53:37 pm StephanieDaul: Good chat today! Thanks everyone! #lrnchat
05:54:15 pm scottmerrett: Thanks lrnchatters. Lots to think about today. #lrnchat
05:54:34 pm RayJimenez: q4) #lrnchat – most do not persist/fail because of lack of true self-realization that the tool helps.. this is like being a monk #lrnchat
05:55:01 pm StephanieDaul: Stephanie Daul, R&D for learning, Instructional Designer, Chicago – back to my 7 course! #lrnchat
05:55:12 pm marciamarcia: This is organic selfdriven process, based on self-realized successes & emotional experience, not theory -@RayJimenez #lrnchat
05:55:22 pm amphiboly: @RayJimenez: q4) #lrnchat – “organic self driven process…based on self-realized successes and emotional exp., not theory” > Hmm not sure
05:55:28 pm briandusablon: Brian Dusablon, Performance Consultant, Learning Geek, Usability Freak, Houston, TX. Bummed I’ll miss tonight’s #lrnchat
05:55:36 pm mhelfrich98: #lrnchat was lurking. Thanks!
05:55:37 pm Mary_a_Myers: darn. missed #lrnchat this aft. Lucky for me it happens all over again tonight!
05:55:39 pm RayJimenez: q4) #lrnchat – thanks.. we need to all go to the monastery … great meeting. thanks #lrnchat
05:56:09 pm TerrenceWing: Terrence Wing, Los Angeles – Enjoyed chatting with everyone. Saw some faces I haven’t seen for awhile too. Awesome #lrnchat
05:57:10 pm RayJimenez: q4) #lrnchat – Ray Jimenez, Pasadena, CA, vignetteslearning.com.. see you .. #lrnchat
05:57:21 pm kunali: thanks #lrnchat for all the insights wud still request ppl to suggest mkt research on web 2.0 if find any – signing off – Kunali
05:57:25 pm sifowler: Qwrap) Simon Fowler, new Forum Corp book: “Strategic Speed” Harvard BP (June 2010) http://www.forum.com (I proj mgd research for it) #lrnchat
05:57:25 pm tonya_simmons: Tonya Goth Simmons, production designer, Phasient Learning Technologies, Ames IA (& posting full name will bring out the freaks) #lrnchat
05:57:37 pm simbeckhampson: Paul, Learnscape Design – a passion to spark conversation naturally. Thanks #lrnchat – http://simbeckhampson.amplify.com/
05:57:44 pm DesignbyM2: RT @StephanieDaul: Collobration in not a tool it’s a behavior! #lrnchat
05:57:44 pm kellygarber: RT @StephanieDaul: Collobration in not a tool it’s a behavior! #lrnchat
05:57:45 pm amphiboly: Mike Pino, Harvard Business School Publishing, Cambridge, MA. Thanks for a provocatve #lrnchat !
05:57:52 pm briandusablon: Keep fighting the good fight. Go rogue, keep it simple, introduce change where you can. Use existing tech when possible. Baby steps #lrnchat
05:58:00 pm torriedunlap: Distracted #lrnchat (er) today. See you next week! Torrie, CPLP, San Diego
05:58:00 pm rosamariatorres: I see. RT @simbeckhampson Web 2.0 choices. Senior management need 2 be clear before teaching,they achieve this through listening. #lrnchat
05:58:43 pm sifowler: @amphiboly Thanks for publishing our book! #lrnchat
05:58:58 pm drtimony: Thanks for the convo! David Timony K12 educator, Expertise Theorist, teacher prep professor #lrnchat
05:59:22 pm sifowler: @amphiboly & thanks for follow-up tweets last week; would love to chat more sometime. Give me a shout if downtown Boston. #lrnchat
05:59:23 pm tmiket: @briandusablon Is going rogue like getting all “mavericky? 8-p #lrnchat
05:59:24 pm janet_frg: Thanks, all for a great #lrnchat. Nice to be back after missing several weeks.
05:59:30 pm TerrenceWing: @torriedunlap We’re practically neighbors. I am in LA. Are you going to mLearnCon in SD? #lrnchat
05:59:31 pm simbeckhampson: @briandusablon exising hardware perhaps – experiment with new tools – innovate for the right mix. Create. #lrnchat
05:59:38 pm briandusablon: Your senior mgmt listens? > RT @simbeckhampson Web 2.0 choices. Senior mgmt need 2 be clear, they achieve this through listening. #lrnchat
06:00:11 pm torriedunlap: @TerrenceWing I wish, but I will be out of town during mLearnCon. #lrnchat
06:00:31 pm amphiboly: @sifowler Hi Simon — Forum has been involved with some really important research and work! We’re happy to work with you… #lrnchat
06:00:37 pm briandusablon: @simbeckhampson existing software, too (i.e. SharePoint) – because it’s already accepted and used. Just shift HOW it is used. #lrnchat
06:01:06 pm simbeckhampson: @RayJimenez not a bad idea! #lrnchat
06:01:37 pm michaelcjohnson: #lrnchat Wrapup I’m Mike Johnson, instructional designer, ed researcher, at @byuctl adjunct in IP&T. Thanks for an interesting conversation!
06:01:56 pm simbeckhampson: @briandusablon Yep, like the shift how approach too🙂 Cheers. #lrnchat
06:02:02 pm briandusablon: Call it whatever you like. I prefer NINJA. Ha! > RT @tmiket: Is going rogue like getting all “mavericky? 8-p #lrnchat
06:02:19 pm Mid247: MRT @sifowler: Qwrap) Simon Fowler, new Forum Corp book: “Strategic Speed” Harvard BP (June 2010) http://www.forum.com #lrnchat
06:02:24 pm lrnchat: Thank you for joining us on #lrnchat. Please tell us if you blog about the conversation so we can link to it on http://lrnchat.com

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