Transcript for #lrnchat 15-April 2010 (late)

08:31:15 pm lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been? Q0 warm up after the rules.
08:31:25 pm usablelearning: Okay – big dilemma: It’s a perfect spring evening outside, but tonight’s #lrnchat is on ARGs for learning #goingtobelateforlrnchat
08:31:52 pm lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1) Introduce yourself. (We do this again at the end). Location? Focus? Fave topics?
08:32:22 pm moehlert: starting my double-shift of #lrnchat for the day. Cuz IT’S JUST THAT GOOD!!
08:32:43 pm lrnchat: 2) Try to stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 20 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
08:32:56 pm kelly_smith01: Q0) Lurking tonight to follow talk on ARG… #lrnchat
08:33:21 pm nickfloro: Tonight’s #lrnchat focuses on alternative reality games (ARG). Join in at 8:30pET/5:30pPT Details> http://lrnchat.com (via @lrnchat)
08:33:50 pm lrnchat: 3) Writing complete thoughts help followers outside #lrnchat learn from you.
08:34:08 pm moehlert: @lrnchat Hello Original #lrnchat !! Mark Oehlert from near Washington DC. Social Media, Virtual Worlds, Anthropologist. Focus? Nope🙂
08:34:08 pm ArtPandscience: ArtP here, wk at Motorola, just back from the CLO Summit. Great summit. Lots of mind expanding presentations..#lrnchat
08:34:19 pm jmwhite2: RT @usablelearning: Okay – big dilemma: It’s a perfect spring evening outside, but tonight’s #lrnchat is on ARGs for learning #goingtobelateforlrnchat
08:34:46 pm moehlert: You know I feel like I should warn people who follow me about all the #lrnchat tweets that are coming, but I figure I’ll surprise them!
08:34:46 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q0) well hello lrnchatters! got warmed up on ARGs in the early/EU chat…who’s ready to talk games? #lrnchat
08:34:47 pm lrnchat: 4) Remember to include #lrnchat in all posts. http://tweetchat.com http://tweetgrid.com & http://twubs.com/lrnchat work well
08:35:16 pm kelly_smith01: Q0) Kelly Smith, ISD Consultant North Texas, #lrnchat
08:35:17 pm reward75: Gonna miss #lrnchat tonight to do my research project😦 . Five weeks til graduation though😀
08:35:38 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman, e-Learning Designer, Baltimore, MD #lrnchat
08:35:45 pm hybridkris: Kris Rockwell, Pittsburgh, PA. Mobile learning, and serious games. #lrnchat
08:35:58 pm lrnchat: 5) Periodically RT questions so others outside #lrnchat know what you’re talking about & so they can chime in too.
08:36:01 pm nancyrubin: Nancy Rubin – education and training – Learning Objects, Inc. Washington DC. but I am in South FL. Social Software for Education #lrnchat
08:36:02 pm KoreenOlbrish: Koreen Olbrish, CEO Tandem Learning, games for learning, virtual worlds, social media, trouble maker #lrnchat
08:36:21 pm SueSchnorr: Q0 — Sue Schnorr, Instructional Design Consultant- Rochester, NY #lrnchat
08:36:24 pm lrnchat: 6) On #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm & irony welcome though. Really.
08:36:26 pm KoreenOlbrish: @reward75 oh! 5 wks? That’s awesome! Congrats! #lrnchat
08:36:53 pm hybridkris: @moehlert, @koreenolbrish, Nice to see you for round two. #lrnchat
08:36:55 pm eliza1230: Myra Rhodes of Everyone’s E-Learning – now offering Business Catalyst platform to host your online business – not a website! #lrnchat
08:36:56 pm ArtPandscience: prstn at CLO Summit had 10 future topics. One was gaming for learning… #lrnchat
08:37:10 pm LandDDave: Q0) David Kelly, Training Director, Long Island, New York #lrnchat
08:37:15 pm TriciaRansom: Tricia Ransom, Chicago ID designer/developer/deliver and gaming newbie. #lrnchat
08:37:18 pm KoreenOlbrish: @ArtPandscience I feel like I missed out on the CLO Summit. Would love to hear your thoughts!
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08:37:44 pm ArtPandscience: Janet Clarey there too and demo’d Twitter and YouTube for the newbies #lrnchat
08:37:53 pm lrnchat: 7) 10 min before end, reintroduce yourself. Links & requests (or shameless plugs) welcome, too #lrnchat
08:37:57 pm eliza1230: oh my, I just realized I’m using my alter ego account. Better sign off and log in as me! #lrnchat
08:38:12 pm KoreenOlbrish: @hybridkris @moehlert dont you kinda feel like we’re the in-residence expert ARG panel?🙂 #lrnchat
08:38:22 pm ThomasStone: Thomas Stone, from Element K in Rochester, NY. Hello all #lrnchat folks!
08:38:25 pm moehlert: @hybridkris @koreenolbrish I get stronger as the fight goes on. Like The Hulk #lrnchat
08:38:27 pm nickfloro: Hi all, Nick Floro in Washington Crossing, PA, hoping the little one goes to sleep…#lrnchat
08:38:36 pm dbolen: q0 Don Bolen, PM, learning strategist ATL, learning about ARG tonite
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08:38:49 pm lrnchat: Q0) Weekly #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
08:38:52 pm TriciaRansom: At #lrnchat re gaming for next 90 minutes and may have higher than normal tweets.
08:38:56 pm hybridkris: @KoreenOlbrish Kind of. And you know what? I don’t mind it a bit. #lrnchat
08:39:17 pm KoreenOlbrish: do you think people are too busy doing their taxes tonight to talk games? #lrnchat
08:39:47 pm jkunrein: hello there… judy unrein, id and wow player in kansas city. mostly here… #lrnchat
08:39:55 pm TriciaRansom: @KoreenOlbrish just finished mine 15 mins ago…thank you TurboTax!
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08:40:10 pm rosamariatorres: #lrnchat Rosa Maria Torres. Ecuador. Educationist and linguist. Reseacher and international adviser.
08:40:10 pm LandDDave: Any activelydoing their taxes right now is playing an entirely different type of game… #lrnchat
08:40:10 pm nancyrubin: Q0) At Pearson eCollege conference in Denver this week. Theme was New World of Learning. Learned Lots and Presented. #lrnchat
08:40:14 pm SueSchnorr: I learned that 2nd grade open house is tiring for grandparents & lil sis, but my 2nd grader & I loved it! #lrnchat
08:40:16 pm gregwilliams123: Greg Williams from Baltimore, Maryland, Professor at Univ. of Maryland #lrnchat
08:40:19 pm KoreenOlbrish: @hybridkris its good to love what you do. and its cool to tell your kid you design games AS A JOB😉 #lrnchat
08:40:23 pm kelly_smith01: Q0) Learned something (nothing specific) on Articulate – 1st pass #lrnchat
08:40:25 pm everyselearning: Hi all, I’m back, this time as me! #lrnchat
08:40:27 pm dbolen: @KoreenOlbrish isn’t that the big “game” tonite? #lrnchat
08:40:28 pm jkunrein: RT @lrnchat: Q0) Weekly #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week? #lrnchat
08:40:33 pm minutebio: Q0) Since I attended Myers-Briggs 2 day, I guess I shld say I learned I am an INPF. #lrnchat
08:40:38 pm trchandler: Todd Chandler, cultural architect in Kansas City ~ time for #lrnchat
08:40:40 pm KoreenOlbrish: @jkunrein I knew I liked you! Do you watch The Guild? #lrnchat
08:40:41 pm marciamarcia: Often feeling like my life these days is an alternative reality game, I’ll lurk on tonight’s #lrnchat (& do some acct admin reality)
08:40:42 pm LandDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q0) Weekly #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week? #lrnchat
08:40:54 pm hybridkris: @KoreenOlbrish Taxes are a game, right? Aren’t they? #lrnchat
08:41:01 pm TriciaRansom: Q0) Learned a sunny day makes most everyone happy #lrnchat
08:41:23 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Oh, so I learned today that you can’t count on ning to maintain its own business model.
08:41:29 pm jkunrein: LOVE The Guild!❤❤ RT @KoreenOlbrish: @jkunrein I knew I liked you! Do you watch The Guild? #lrnchat
08:41:32 pm minutebio: RT @gregwilliams123: Greg Williams from Baltimore, Professor at Univ. of Maryland // Gd 2 C U here Greg (Jeff UMBC ISD '04) #lrnchat
08:41:55 pm everyselearning: I learned to log out before logging into lrnchat #lrnchat
08:42:02 pm dbolen: q0) leaned last nite about a ATL-based company using SecondLife for six sigma training, design of experiments, etc. #lrnchat
08:42:04 pm midquel: oops. a little late to #lrnchat Heather – Baltimore, MD q0) I have learned that I'm just going to have let some things go.
08:42:12 pm LandDDave: Q0) I learned men aren't interested in Creative Thinking – attended a workshop on the subject and was the only male of 25 attendees #lrnchat
08:42:19 pm hybridkris: Q0) I learned that my development team is WAY more talented than they let on (but I kinda already knew that). #lrnchat
08:42:24 pm jmwhite2: Mark White, Brisbane Aus. ARGs and serious games. My partner exec produced ARG for the ABC TV show "LOST" Find 815. #lrnchat
08:42:31 pm kelly_smith01: Q0) Leaqrned that my friends that work for accounting firms don't come out an play on April 15 (or is it me) #lrnchat
08:42:36 pm ArtPandscience: I learned today that I may be out of work in July.. (:-( #lrnchat
08:42:36 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q0) learned that sometimes its cool to spend the day in the office all by yourself gettin' stuff done #lrnchat
08:42:46 pm kristineshaheen: #lrnchat Christine Shaheen. Toronto. Professional Administrative Coordinator, Learning and Developmebt Professional. New role on the 26th!
08:43:15 pm moehlert: @KoreenOlbrish @hybridkris Please. If its you two and me, I'm just standing on the shoulders of giants🙂 #lrnchat
08:43:26 pm jkunrein: Q0) learned this week that there's actually a restaurant in a nearby town that serves Dublin Dr. Pepper. now that is truly special. #lrnchat
08:43:27 pm KoreenOlbrish: @jmwhite2 WHOA. Well now I kinda feel outclassed on the ARG front🙂 Very cool!! #lrnchat
08:43:45 pm trchandler: @KoreenOlbrish I love those office of solitude days
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08:44:03 pm rosamariatorres: #lrnchat The vulnerability of social media,Twitter archives at Congress Library, Ning no longer free, etc Q0) What have U learned today?
08:44:14 pm sleveo: @minutebio Q0) Yes, in Myers-Briggs I'm an INFP also Lots of P. #lrnChat We can compare notes sometime.
08:44:23 pm cybraryman1: My daughter met her future husband (he is from Baltimore) at U of M/College Park & were married there! http://bit.ly/4KW7Ps #lrnchat
08:44:27 pm KoreenOlbrish: @LandDDave Is it weird that I don't find that all that weird?🙂 #lrnchat
08:44:49 pm KoreenOlbrish: @trchandler Office of Solitude! FTW! #lrnchat
08:45:03 pm hybridkris: @jmwhite2 Whoa. Not that is super cool. So, what the hell is that island?#lrnchat
08:45:22 pm cybraryman1: I learned that I need to add a lot for pages on new technologies on my website #lrnchat
08:45:26 pm nickfloro: @moehlert Ning – I can't believe the changes they are doing…. Someone will jump in and take its place and improve the model #lrnchat
08:45:28 pm marciamarcia: Today I learned Ning is ending free network offering. Here's a list of alternatives http://j.mp/nfning by @rmbyrne #lrnchat
08:45:35 pm ArtPandscience: Using communities for a global engineering symposium on innovation. No cost, global participants and great outcomes.#lrnchat
08:45:44 pm minutebio: RT @sleveo: @minutebio Q0) Yes, in Myers-Briggs Im an INFP also Lots of P. We can compare notes sometime. / Will do #lrnchat
08:45:47 pm moehlert: @jmwhite2 …so let me just add "I'm not worthy. I'm not worthy…" #lrnchat
08:45:53 pm jodylo: RT @marciamarcia: Today I learned Ning is ending free network offering. Here's a list of alternatives http://j.mp/nfning by @rmbyrne #lrnchat
08:46:12 pm lrnchat: Q1) Do you use games in your training programs? If so, what are some examples? #lrnchat
08:46:23 pm ThomasStone: Q0: I learned that a new TV is a great gift for your wife's bd, esp. when her bd is a couple weeks after baseball season starts. #lrnchat
08:46:37 pm moehlert: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Do you use games in your training programs? If so, what are some examples? #lrnchat
08:46:56 pm trchandler: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Do you use games in your training programs? If so, what are some examples? #lrnchat
08:47:01 pm jkunrein: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Do you use games in your training programs? If so, what are some examples? #lrnchat
08:47:07 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Do you use games in your training programs? If so, what are some examples? #lrnchat
08:47:10 pm nickfloro: Q0 – saw The Girl Effect video which inspired me – a great example of storytelling – http://bit.ly/dj05bS #lrnchat
08:47:30 pm mgharavi: Evening all. Sorry I'm late! Mahdi, here. ID @metrostarsystem. First time participant🙂 #lrnchat
08:47:42 pm nancydevine: RT @marciamarcia: Today I learned Ning is ending free network offering. Here's a list of alternatives http://j.mp/nfning by @rmbyrne #lrnchat
08:47:59 pm jmwhite2: LOST ARG had 300,000 strangers playing and collaborating, spontaneously. Wondering what else can do something like that. #lrnchat
08:48:10 pm KoreenOlbrish: @mgharavi welcome! it's gonna be a fun first night in #lrnchat
08:48:10 pm kristineshaheen: Q0) I learned that I got a job… yay! Also that I need to relaaaax while maintaining discipline. #lrnchat
08:48:11 pm jkunrein: @mgharavi Welcome! #lrnchat
08:48:18 pm minutebio: Q1) Yes, small "mini games" within asynchronous courses. To reinforce concepts, add some challenge… and fun. #lrnchat
08:48:21 pm hybridkris: Q1) Yes we use gaming technology for immersive worlds and ARG's for training. Have a new one starting next week. #lrnchat
08:48:27 pm nancyrubin: Q1) Digital ice breakers – examples – http://twt.wikispaces.com/Ice-Breaker+Ideas #lrnchat
08:48:32 pm ArtPandscience: simple games like matching, silly quizzes. In others, a VR experience on figuring how to operate mfg. equipment. + bonus points! #lrnchat
08:48:43 pm hybridkris: Q1) Also investigating COTS games for use in education. #lrnchat
08:49:15 pm moehlert: @mgharavi Welcome Mahdi! #lrnchat
08:49:38 pm moehlert: @kristineshaheen Congrats! #lrnchat
08:49:42 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q1. we're kinda the "game designers/providers" but we see the range from game shows to immersive & experiential games #lrnchat
08:49:55 pm kelly_smith01: @minutebio Like the idea on "mini-games" saves time 4 set-up, debrief and clean-up #lrnchat
08:49:57 pm LandDDave: @mgharavi Welcome to the chat! #lrnchat
08:50:16 pm rosamariatorres: #lrnchat Play always present in teacher education or in family/ community education -what I do Q1) Do U use games in ur training programs?
08:50:24 pm mgharavi: @KoreenOlbrish @jkunrein @moehlert Thanks🙂 Great to join you all #lrnchat
08:50:27 pm dbolen: @mgharavi welcome and enjoy #lrnchat
08:50:31 pm trchandler: Q1) Yes. Mainly for reviews throughout the day: Jeopardy, Family Feud, Lightening Round kind of stuff
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08:50:37 pm moehlert: @jmwhite2 That's incredible. What do you think was the most powerful dynamic driving that level of interest? #lrnchat
08:50:39 pm jkunrein: Q1) yes, simple games in ILT to digital "jeopardy" games and such. we don't have a very strong pro-game tradition. #lrnchat
08:50:42 pm LandDDave: COTS? bridkris: Q1) Also investigating COTS games for use in education. #lrnchat
08:51:00 pm reyjunco: RT @nancyrubin: Q1) Digital ice breakers – examples – http://twt.wikispaces.com/Ice-Breaker+Ideas #lrnchat
08:51:29 pm mgharavi: @LandDDave @dbolen Thanks #lrnchat
08:51:37 pm nimblecopy: Q0) Today I learned that I can make a pie crust and participate in #lrnchat at the same time.
08:51:53 pm minutebio: RT @kelly_smith01: Like idea "mini-games" saves time 4 set-up, debrief &clean-up// Also, what budgt & resources allow much of time #lrnchat
08:51:53 pm ArtPandscience: detective and witness for safety training. Detective has to learn to ask the right questions to get the answer. #lrnchat
08:51:53 pm gregwilliams123: Q1 I use simple scavenger hunt games to orient users to an online course platform #lrnchat
08:51:58 pm nancyrubin: Q1) Rapid interactions from Raptivity – http://www.raptivity.com/ #lrnchat
08:52:00 pm moehlert: @lrnchat We do use games at DAU but have found that their inclusion can also call for re-looking at whole course. #lrnchat
08:52:12 pm PedroMontalvoSR: No more Ning ¬´ e-Learning Stuff RT @KoreenOlbrish Quest to Learn School game-based learning http://bit.ly/a7VIQs #lrnchat
09:06:29 pm sillym0nkey: Q1) check out ayiti – great game designed by kids teaches kids about living conditions in Haiti – interactive, fun, informative #lrnchat
09:06:30 pm TriciaRansom: @jkunrein or can gaming be code for not-traditional-learning? #lrnchat
09:06:33 pm kellygarber: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Have you used alternate reality in your programs? Examples? If not, why not? #lrnchat
09:06:35 pm trchandler: Doesn’t need a loser, but needs to keep score. RT @TriciaRansom: @jkunrein Does gaming, by definition, imply a winner and loser? #lrnchat
09:06:40 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Have you used alternate reality in your programs? Examples? If not, why not? #lrnchat
09:06:42 pm nancyrubin: Q2) Yes. It takes a team of professional to produce (IMO) – SME, mm dev, proper tools, ID, storytellers. Commitment and budget. #lrnchat
09:06:50 pm midquel: I’m wondering that too. I think, no. RT @TriciaRansom: @jkunrein Does gaming, by definition, imply a winner and loser? #lrnchat
09:06:55 pm mgharavi: RT @KoreenOlbrish @jmwhite2: ARG is an interactive narrative that uses the real world as a platform NOT a classroom #lrnchat
09:06:58 pm minutebio: RT @kelly_smith01: patient ed– Have seen some cool games in health industry e.g. http://bit.ly/5aC1mT #lrnchat
09:07:03 pm jkunrein: @TriciaRansom no, but it implies winning vs. losing, even if against the environment instead of against other players. #lrnchat
09:07:13 pm KoreenOlbrish: hm, this seems like a different question from the earlier chat…now all my clever pre-planned answers are irrelevant🙂
#lrnchat
09:07:17 pm jkunrein: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Have you used alternate reality in your programs? Examples? If not, why not? #lrnchat
09:07:18 pm epredator: @KoreenOlbrish aha that’s the unbalanced ying and yang game #lrnchat
09:07:18 pm everyselearning: @nancyrubin I suppose there are. Time is so limited. Not enough to experiment. #lrnchat
09:07:39 pm trchandler: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Have you used alternate reality in your programs? Examples? If not, why not? #lrnchat
09:07:45 pm bfchirpy: For a *great* eg. of COTS game as ARG, see this http://bit.ly/cwlzWA about @gillpenny’s school. #lrnchat I can see this working at work too.
09:07:48 pm icepoet: RT @bfchirpy: One of the things that struck me about Jesse Schell’s Art of Game Design was how little I needed to work to make it ISD / #lrnchat relevant.
09:07:52 pm rosamariatorres: #lrnchat Not at all! Why should it? RT @TriciaRansom @jkunrein Does gaming, by definition, imply a winner and loser?
09:07:53 pm mgharavi: Q1) to refine my answer from before, I do use interactive hands-on simulation that mimics the real life scenario lrnrs will face #lrnchat
09:07:58 pm moehlert: @midquel @TriciaRansom @jkunrein You can play a game against yourself. #lrnchat
09:08:02 pm trchandler: @KoreenOlbrish I think that’s how we learn🙂 #lrnchat
09:08:11 pm TriciaRansom: Question: What is the def. of games? Gaming? #lrnchat
09:08:25 pm sillym0nkey: Q2) check out http://www.argology.org/history-of-args/ – for more about ARGS #lrnchat
09:08:32 pm kelly_smith01: @minutebio This was one, high level that it is http://bit.ly/ErG75 #lrnchat
09:08:38 pm LandDDave: Q2) I haven’t used ARG in their most literal definition. It doesn’t fit into our “As long as it doesn’t cost anything” budget #lrnchat
09:08:54 pm icepoet: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Have you used alternate reality in your programs? Examples? If not, why not? #lrnchat
09:08:59 pm mgharavi: RT @sillym0nkey: Q2) check out http://www.argology.org/history-of-args/ – for more about ARGS #lrnchat
09:09:07 pm trchandler: Q2) when do case studies become alternate realities? #lrnchat
09:09:15 pm nancyrubin: Q2) I can see apps like Foursquare being used for gaming apps in training and learning. Digital scavenger hunts – location based. #lrnchat
09:09:16 pm rosamariatorres: #lrnchat No. Want to read what others reply on this Q2) Have you used alternate reality in your programs?
09:09:16 pm midquel: q2) no alternate reality. hard sell for my audience, too many technical challenges (thinking 2nd life), doesn’t match objectives #lrnchat
09:09:25 pm BertBates: Lots of ‘game’ discussions so far. Anyone using (or thinking about), layars or wikitude type stuff? #lrnchat
09:09:40 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) Wish we had a live demo for Q2 – Now I have to lurk #lrnchat
09:09:48 pm KoreenOlbrish: just for point of clarification: augmented reality=overlay on reality, alternate reality=blend of digital & real life game play #lrnchat
09:09:58 pm minutebio: RT @kelly_smith01: @minutebio This was one -> high level that it is –> http://bit.ly/ErG75 // Fantastic, thx! #lrnchat
09:10:07 pm usablelearning: Good question – lots of thought on that: http://bit.ly/9dFVbV RT @TriciaRansom Question: What is the def. of games? Gaming? #lrnchat
09:10:21 pm jkunrein: games that teach, challenge. no way to lose = no challenge. RT @TriciaRansom: @jkunrein can gaming = not-traditional-learning? #lrnchat
09:10:25 pm mgharavi: @BertBates Not familiar with those, but will check them out. Thx for mentioning them🙂 #lrnchat
09:10:27 pm trchandler: @nancyrubin Foursquare as a game is a great idea. Have you read about the new History Channel badge? #lrnchat
09:10:38 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) No. I’m not techie enough, too many resources, learners afraid and tech-challenged. #lrnchat
09:10:47 pm midquel: Very cool – RT @sillym0nkey: Q2) check out http://bit.ly/9EnaTt – for more about ARGS #lrnchat #visuals
09:10:48 pm kelly_smith01: RT @KoreenOlbrish: .. clarification: augmented reality=overlay on reality, alternate reality=blend of digital & real life game play #lrnchat
09:10:49 pm KoreenOlbrish: ARGs can actually be quite low tech…its all about the game design, not the technology, but the tech needs to support the play! #lrnchat
09:10:52 pm trchandler: @KoreenOlbrish great definitions. #lrnchat
09:11:04 pm moehlert: @lrnchat I helped a tiny bit w Zombie ARG that @KoreenOlbrish and at @hybridkris did for DevLearn. Learned a lot just from that exp #lrnchat
09:11:04 pm TriciaRansom: @usablelearning Thanks for the link! #lrnchat
09:11:13 pm usablelearning: RT @BertBates Lots of ‘game’ discussions so far. Anyone using (or thinking about), layars or wikitude type stuff? #lrnchat
09:11:26 pm jkunrein: @TriciaRansom admittedly, an oversimplification, but best i can do in 140 chars.🙂 #lrnchat
09:11:29 pm moehlert: RT @KoreenOlbrish: just for clarity: augmented reality=overlay on reality, alternate reality=blend of digital & real life game play #lrnchat
09:11:29 pm sillym0nkey: Key components of games – goals, rules, challenge, interaction (training fits like a glove) #lrnchat
09:11:39 pm jkunrein: RT @KoreenOlbrish: .. clarification: augmented reality=overlay on reality, alternate reality=blend of digital & real life game play #lrnchat
09:11:49 pm moehlert: RT @trchandler: @nancyrubin Foursquare as a game is a great idea. Have you read about the new History Channel badge? #lrnchat
09:11:56 pm rosamariatorres: #lrnchat There are competitive games and collaborative games. I always choose the latter. Ppl also feel more comfortable, especially adults.
09:12:05 pm hybridkris: Q2) Yes, but slightly modified ARG’s. Corporate isn’t “ready” for true ARG’s. They require a central element (portal) to work. #lrnchat
09:12:10 pm nancyrubin: @trchandler Yes. I am a Foursquare geek. Especially because I travel a lot. Also read about 2 people racing to North Pole. #lrnchat
09:12:11 pm usablelearning: Wait – which are we addressing (I came late)? RT @KoreenOlbrish just point of clarification: augmented reality/alternate reality #lrnchat
09:12:28 pm icepoet: question, how does social learning tie into learning through gaming? #lrnchat
09:12:46 pm jkunrein: anyone care to mention common examples of alternate reality games for further definition? #lrnchat
09:12:59 pm jmwhite2: ARGs often use multiple media and game elements. Not just virtual worlds or one type of game. Think #pervasivemedia #lrnchat
09:13:18 pm KoreenOlbrish: @usablelearning the alternate reality game side, i think…although i’d love to hear more about using AR for learning some time… #lrnchat
09:13:24 pm sillym0nkey: Zombie ARG was great example of low tech but high fun and interaction #lrnchat
09:13:26 pm kelly_smith01: RT @jmwhite2: ARGs often use multiple media and game elements. Not just virtual worlds or one type of game. Think #pervasivemedia #lrnchat
09:13:28 pm moehlert: @KoreenOlbrish True dat. Design is SO critical in ARG development #lrnchat
09:13:50 pm audioswhite: #lrnchat Q2) developed to prototype iPhone app/game fp shooter to demo polyp removal in colon. Showed light tech to find polyps.
09:13:54 pm LandDDave: RT @icepoet: question, how does social learning tie into learning through gaming? < Done right, gaming should be social learning. #lrnchat
09:14:08 pm kelly_smith01: RT @moehlert: @KoreenOlbrish True dat. Design is SO critical in ARG development #lrnchat
09:14:12 pm TriciaRansom: Like! RT @rosamariatorres: competitive vs collaborative games – I choose the latter, Ppl feel more comfortable, especially adults. #lrnchat
09:14:53 pm sillym0nkey: Cool! RT @usablelearning: RT @BertBates Lots of 'game' discussions. Anyone usng layars or wikitude type stuff? #lrnchat
09:15:08 pm jkunrein: @LandDDave i like social gaming, but i don't think it's the only way to game… or learn. #lrnchat
09:15:20 pm KoreenOlbrish: excited about what we're launching next week! Full on training ARG for national sales meeting #lrnchat
09:15:28 pm odguru: RT:@jmwhite2: ARGs often use multiple media and game elements. <<Example? #lrnchat
09:15:39 pm kellygarber: Q2: I would love the opportunity to be a designer on an ARG project. I've always wanted justification for branching off page. #lrnchat
09:16:15 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) Ohhh. Hide ARG. I think I saw ADDIE. Don't let ADDIE see ARG. ADDIE and ARG must never meet. #lrnchat
09:16:25 pm LandDDave: @jkunrein I was thinking specifically for ARGs. If I'm comitting to that expense, I would want it to be a group experience. #lrnchat
09:16:32 pm KoreenOlbrish: by we, i'm referring to tandem learning & hybrid learning…i think we've learned both the design & tech are critical to success #lrnchat
09:16:37 pm sillym0nkey: I am JEALOUS! RT @KoreenOlbrish: excited about launching full on training ARG 4 national sales meeting #lrnchat
09:16:43 pm usablelearning: @lrnchat Competition can be good, if it's done right RT @TriciaRansom Like! RT @rosamariatorres: competitive vs collaborative games #lrnchat
09:16:45 pm nancyrubin: Q2) These would be example (to me) of things that I would implement – http://www.alleninteractions.com/e-learning-demos #lrnchat
09:16:53 pm hybridkris: @sillym0nkey @usablelearning @BertBates We're working with Layar now. Also, check 7scenes.com for cool location based content. #lrnchat
09:17:15 pm bfchirpy: Q2: Just started work on ARG. Client described 'reality' of their workforce and ARG was closest thing to it… #lrnchat
09:17:19 pm kellygarber: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Ohhh. Hide ARG. I think I saw ADDIE. Dont let ADDIE see ARG. ADDIE and ARG must never meet. <–NEVER! #lrnchat
09:17:20 pm icepoet: @jkunrein social gaming is not the only way to game or learn, but with social learning become more popular it's a good avenue #lrnchat
09:17:26 pm lrnchat: Q3) How can alternate reality games (ARG) be used to foster learning? #lrnchat
09:17:35 pm hybridkris: @odguru Web sites, SMS, email, phone calls, found objects in the real world (USB sticks with content). That kind of thing. #lrnchat
09:17:36 pm edwsonoma: just popped into #lrnchat for a quick lurk, great tweetstream this week. very interesting, Quick – DRINK!!!!
09:17:40 pm moehlert: @usablelearning @lrnchat @TriciaRansom @rosamariatorres All kinds of competition: with self, with others, between teams… #lrnchat
09:17:47 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can alternate reality games (ARG) be used to foster learning? #lrnchat
09:17:50 pm bfchirpy: @hybridkris Are you? Must must must find out more from you. Blog? Brain vampirism? #lrnchat
09:18:12 pm hybridkris: @KoreenOlbrish Wait until you see what we implemented today! (Awesome dev team again!) #lrnchat
09:18:17 pm moehlert: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can alternate reality games (ARG) be used to foster learning? #lrnchat
09:18:17 pm jkunrein: Q2) we're not doing any alternate reality games ATM, and haven't yet. i guess my org is pretty conservative that way. #lrnchat
09:18:35 pm hybridkris: @bfchirpy All I need to find is free time! #lrnchat
09:18:38 pm kellygarber: Q3: makes it okay to color outside the lines #lrnchat
09:18:38 pm sillym0nkey: Q2) I tried Urgent Evoke (Jane McGonigal's new ARG) but not enough time to figure it out #lrnchat
09:18:45 pm trchandler: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can alternate reality games (ARG) be used to foster learning? #lrnchat
09:18:45 pm bfchirpy: For interesting ARG-approach with competition with self see http://gameofgames.com #lrnchat
09:18:48 pm ThomasStone: People have asked for examples… I believe "World without Oil" was one of the more famous ARGs, right? http://bit.ly/4ylqw7 #lrnchat
09:19:06 pm jkunrein: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can alternate reality games (ARG) be used to foster learning? #lrnchat
09:19:22 pm LandDDave: Nice way to describe it…. RT @kellygarber: Q3: makes it okay to color outside the lines #lrnchat
09:19:33 pm icepoet: 3) ARG can be used to foster learning perhaps through virtual or psuedo motivation? like badges in four square? #lrnchat
09:19:34 pm hybridkris: @KoreenOlbrish What we've learned is how to make this work for corp training and it's not as easy as you would think. #lrnchat
09:19:40 pm bfchirpy: Q3) ARGs deal with the bits of learning that don't fit in requirements documents – emergent, messy stuff #lrnchat
09:19:41 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) (1) When the risk of failure in real world practice could injure or damage people or equipment #lrnchat
09:19:50 pm KoreenOlbrish: @hybridkris there is NO doubt u guys rock😉 @kristencromer rocks it out too… too busy *actually* working to enlighten everyone #lrnchat
09:20:07 pm moehlert: @lrnchat I don't know if that's the right question. How can ARG's be focused on relevant learning objectives for the enterprise? #lrnchat
09:20:17 pm rosamariatorres: #lrnchat I see replies on educational "games" focused on tech. However, lots of play & fun without any gadgets, with very simple things.
09:20:23 pm NomadicEdge: RT @bfchirpy: Q3) ARGs deal with the bits of learning that don't fit in requirements documents – emergent, messy stuff #lrnchat
09:20:35 pm TriciaRansom: Yes! RT @kellygarber: Q3: makes it okay to color outside the lines #lrnchat
09:20:37 pm jkunrein: we definitely don't have the tech down yet!🙂 RT @KoreenOlbrish: both the design & tech are critical to success #lrnchat
09:21:17 pm icepoet: 3) the follow up question then would be what type of learning is being fostered can we use games to teach or alter behaviors? #lrnchat
09:21:18 pm sillym0nkey: Q3) ARGs grt potential in lrng- intereresting back story & intriguing clues &worthwhile treasures to find& build n social scoring #lrnchat
09:21:34 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q2. ARGs can be designed to meet any learning objectives…its a matter of what you want ppl to DO…then design for it #lrnchat
09:21:42 pm hybridkris: Q3) ARG's can be used for learning through the "hive" mentality behind them that promotes knowledge sharing (recycled from earlier) #lrnchat
09:22:04 pm mgharavi: Well said! RT @bfchirpy: Q3) ARGs deal with the bits of learning that dont fit in requirements documents – emergent, messy stuff #lrnchat
09:22:16 pm moehlert: @rosamariatorres You couldn't be MORE right. Really need to understand play and game design outside of technology #lrnchat
09:22:27 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) (2) Use ARG for to practice part of task and provide reward or/and feedback – then move to next part of task #lrnchat
09:22:59 pm LandDDave: Q3) ARGs help learners see something they don't notice in the real world, so they can use the learned skills in reality. #lrnchat
09:23:08 pm midquel: RT @kellygarber: Q3: makes it okay to color outside the lines #lrnchat
09:23:37 pm trchandler: What's the difference between ARGs and traditional simulations? #lrnchat
09:23:48 pm bfchirpy: Q3) ARGs – we're simply no good at simulating context/environment/emotions in classrooms or on screens. #lrnchat
09:23:50 pm nancyrubin: Q3) How will telepresence and 3D impact this a year from now? #lrnchat
09:24:10 pm KoreenOlbrish: just because you've played a game doesn't mean you know how to design one that's fun to play…game design is a skill #lrnchat
09:24:15 pm mgharavi: That's what I'm scratchin my head ovr: RT @trchandler: Whats the difference between ARGs and traditional simulations? #lrnchat
09:24:18 pm TriciaRansom: RT @LandDDave: Q3) ARGs help learners see something they dont notice in real world so they can use the learned skills in reality #lrnchat
09:24:20 pm moehlert: @bfchirpy Right AND they deal with the SKILLS that don't fit nicely..collaboration, critical thinking, deductive reasoning… #lrnchat
09:24:24 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) (3) Build teamwork or build relationships which may foster better practice in future performance #lrnchat
09:24:30 pm sillym0nkey: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q2. ARGs can b designed 2 meet any learning objectives..matter of what u want ppl 2 DO.then design 4 it #lrnchat
09:24:46 pm trchandler: Both ARGs and simulation games seem to offer safe environments to take risks and fail and learn about decision making skills #lrnchat
09:25:16 pm LandDDave: RT @trchandler: Whats the difference between ARGs and traditional simulations? high level that it is –> http://bit.ly/ErG75 // Fantastic, thx! #lrnchat
09:26:50 pm kristineshaheen: RT @epredator: @KoreenOlbrish a game show done right can engage people. Too many are just lazy formulaic fillers. Like most learning🙂 #lrnchat
09:26:57 pm sillym0nkey: RT @kelly_smith01: Q3) (4) ARG can reinforce learing from a different modality – ILT – E-Learn #lrnchat
09:27:05 pm moehlert: RT @KoreenOlbrish: just cause u’ve played a game doesn’t mean u know how to design one that’s fun to play…game design is a skill #lrnchat
09:27:07 pm nancyrubin: http://mashable.com/2010/03/18/jane-mcgonigal-ted-gaming-saving-world/ #lrnchat
09:27:23 pm mgharavi: RT @KoreenOlbrish: just cause youve played a game doesnt mean you know how to design one thats fun to play…game design is a skill #lrnchat
09:27:28 pm icepoet: @trchandler Jane Mcgonigal talks about how players feel safer in games rather than in person in her Ted talk great point #lrnchat
09:27:31 pm everyselearning: @bfchirpy If you are learning there is a curve. Otherwise you would be doing. #lrnchat
09:27:37 pm trchandler: @KoreenOlbrish @LandDDave would you say ARGs=more make believe, fantasy; simulations=real scenarios? #lrnchat
09:27:48 pm hybridkris: @kristineshaheen I find myself continually going back to board games. That’s almost no-tech! Lot’s can be learned there. #lrnchat
09:27:53 pm KoreenOlbrish: one of the most overlooked features of training design is storyline development…its a critical component of ARGs #lrnchat
09:27:54 pm usablelearning: Stuff you can’t be taught-must learn&practice RT @moehlert @bfchirpy SKILLS: .collaboration, critical thinking, deductive reasoning #lrnchat
09:28:15 pm moehlert: RT @LandDDave: Yes! I miss ZORK! RT @kristineshaheen: I still miss text-based Commodore games. lol #lrnchat You are in a field…
09:28:44 pm mgharavi: RT @KoreenOlbrish: 1 of the most overlooked features of training design is storyline development…its a critical component of ARGs #lrnchat
09:28:55 pm jkunrein: @KoreenOlbrish YES! i play games a LOT, don’t design much. but gaming teaches me the diff between a fun game & lots of Flash! #lrnchat
09:28:56 pm moehlert: @trchandler @KoreenOlbrish @LandDDave I’d say ARG’s can actually call on real-world skills in support of fictional narrative…. #lrnchat
09:28:56 pm bfchirpy: @everyselearning UK govt on surgeons’ training: a learning curve is NOT acceptable. Training must be simmed via games/ARGs… #lrnchat
09:29:33 pm kelly_smith01: @KoreenOlbrish Yes – Game design is a skill so is facilitating a game in classroom #lrnchat
09:29:34 pm hybridkris: @trchandler Not always. I saw a great business ARG that could fall into a simulation. It’s got a competition piece to it though. #lrnchat
09:29:37 pm KoreenOlbrish: @trchandler ARGs aren’t necessarily fantasy, but the game is essentially play. Simulations should mirror reality to be effective #lrnchat
09:29:43 pm NomadicEdge: Alternate Reality Games (ARGs) in education — this article about HealthCare via @kelly_smith01 http://bit.ly/ErG75 #lrnchat (thnx)
09:29:46 pm ThomasStone: @moehlert yes! game design is a skill… see last 20 years of board games, like Settlers, led by the German game designer mostly. #lrnchat
09:29:55 pm mgharavi: RT @moehlert: […] Id say ARGs can actually call on real-world skills in support of fictional narrative…. #lrnchat
09:29:59 pm bfchirpy: I’m not entirely convinced that half the managers I know aren’t *already* playing their own private ARGs… #lrnchat
09:30:08 pm LandDDave: @trchandler AR alters reality in a way that enhances. While not gaming, think of the first-down line is highlighted in football #lrnchat
09:30:13 pm sillym0nkey: check out Jane McGonigal’s I LOVE Bees http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Love_Bees #lrnchat
09:30:26 pm billcush: @KoreenOlbrish Yes…the storylines, What if we could tell stories better about how to serve/sell to customers.. #lrnchat
09:30:27 pm KoreenOlbrish: @kelly_smith01 Are you a budding learning “dungeon master”?🙂
#lrnchat
09:30:38 pm everyselearning: @BFchirpy surgeons? really? no learning curve? I must not understand the concept #lrnchat
09:30:39 pm moehlert: @ThomasStone Sure. Or last 3,000 years of game design… 😉 #lrnchat
09:30:48 pm nancyrubin: I am having flashbacks to my PhD program. I wrote a paper on eXistenZ. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAdbdUt_h9M #lrnchat
09:30:54 pm trchandler: Case studies capture real life, simulations mimic real life, ARGs totally fiction (but could feel real)? #lrnchat
09:30:59 pm nimblecopy: RT @kristineshaheen: I still miss text-based Commodore games. — and I miss Speak & Spell! #lrnchat
09:31:19 pm trchandler: @LandDDave thanks. That’s a helpful example. #lrnchat
09:31:23 pm TriciaRansom: what ive learned so far: good games = challenge, competition, story, skills, design, purpose. #lrnchat
09:31:38 pm bfchirpy: @everyselearning No on the job learning curve, apparently. The learning curve must be pre-contact with real people. #lrnchat
09:31:53 pm jkunrein: impressive! RT @TriciaRansom: what ive learned so far: good games = challenge, competition, story, skills, design, purpose. #lrnchat
09:32:01 pm usablelearning: @everyselearning It’s reducing the learning curve of how to play that’s the issue. #lrnchat
09:32:04 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) With an ARG learner can identify the elements which impact performance (such as in an emergency) w/o risk or time impact #lrnchat
09:32:11 pm rosamariatorres: #lrnchat Remember the games played at “Freedom Writers” film? Wonderful! No tech. Or very simple tech. The human relationship at the center
09:32:15 pm LandDDave: @trchandler I think ARGs SHOULD feel real. #lrnchat
09:32:19 pm mgharavi: @bfchirpy for a surgeon, that makes plenty of sense! #lrnchat
09:32:27 pm Kathy_Jankowski: #lrnchat but the problem with ARG is it is too expensive for non profits or public education correct?
09:32:43 pm jmwhite2: ARGs also can teach critical thinking about “reality”. Is what I’m seeing/hearing really “real” or a planned diversion? #lrnchat
09:32:44 pm bfchirpy: @everyselearning Heard a surgeon talk about it at Games Based Learning 10 last week. Shocked me. Still shocks me. cf pilots? #lrnchat
09:32:49 pm everyselearning: I like that. RT @trchandler: Case studies capture real life, simulations mimic real life, ARGs totally fiction… #lrnchat
09:32:58 pm wommbc: Transcript for #lrnchat 15-April 2010 (early) ¬´ #Lrnchat Blog: http://bit.ly/akmF26
09:33:13 pm TriciaRansom: @jkunrein considering I knew 0 when I came here, I’m thinking this was a good night for learning! #lrnchat
09:33:17 pm moehlert: RT @jmwhite2: ARGs can teach critical thinking about “reality”. Is what I’m seeing/hearing really “real” or a planned diversion? #lrnchat
09:33:19 pm midquel: RT @everyselearning: I like that. RT @trchandler: Case studies capture real life, simulations mimic real life, ARGs totally fiction… #lrnchat
09:33:31 pm xpconcept: #lrnchat — In the military we referred to ARG’s by a less fancy name… Drills.
09:33:36 pm KoreenOlbrish: @LandDDave don’t agree ARGs need to feel real…Zombie Apocalypse game wasn’t all that realistic, but the point was made #lrnchat
09:33:45 pm ThomasStone: How far have L&D folks gone in using game concepts? Anyone create learning game with “lives” or “hit points” involved? #lrnchat
09:33:46 pm randyfuj: Educational Alternate Reality Games – Literature Review & Primer http://bit.ly/c1XDGh #lrnchat #seriousgames
09:33:54 pm everyselearning: @usablelearning OK now this is complicated. We’re trying to learn so we play. But first we must learn how to play? #lrnchat
09:34:13 pm jkunrein: @TriciaRansom you’ll have a good response next time you’re asked “how can twitter contribute to learning?” #lrnchat
09:34:27 pm LandDDave: @KoreenOlbrish I keep seeing that game pop up. I’ve gotta check it out. #lrnchat
09:34:31 pm kelly_smith01: @KoreenOlbrish No – Not big into computer (or other) games – but think managing the game in learning is very important- #lrnchat
09:34:40 pm nancyrubin: @everyselearning We must play so we can learn.🙂 #lrnchat
09:34:53 pm botgirlq: Hey @Lalo_t, @Posterous is going to build a free Ning blog importer. http://post.ly/aie8 #lrnchat /via @moehlert @studiolistic
09:34:54 pm sillym0nkey: Games – a set of rules a player can interact with, making meaningful choices, dev strategies and attempt to reach a set goal #lrnchat
09:34:55 pm TriciaRansom: @jkunrein That’s why I was so anxious to be here tonight #lrnchat
09:35:05 pm KoreenOlbrish: ARGs started in the entertainment industry…how we can design those types of engaging experiences to hit learning goals is the q! #lrnchat
09:35:26 pm usablelearning: @bfchirpy ah, that makes sense. nice goal if they can pull it off #lrnchat
09:35:29 pm epredator: If you need to understand arg worth Reading halting state. Stross puts it in context. #lrnchat
09:35:31 pm everyselearning: @nancyrubin ok but playing comes naturally right? #lrnchat
09:35:48 pm hybridkris: @bfchirpy First time a pilot flies an actual jet he hasn’t flown before it has passengers. Training is all in a simulator. #lrnchat
09:36:01 pm jmwhite2: @Kathy_Jankowski no, ARGS don’t depend on massive $$. Low cost blends should be doable, if you have a good game designer. #lrnchat
09:36:03 pm mgharavi: Will check this out- RT @randyfuj: Educational Alternate Reality Games – Literature Review & Primer http://bit.ly/c1XDGh #lrnchat #lrnchat
09:36:06 pm KoreenOlbrish: @everyselearning you just have to learn the rules of the game…if its too complicated, you lose people #lrnchat
09:36:08 pm nancyrubin: Look at adoption of things like Farmville on Facebook and some other games. How many hours are spent in these environments? #lrnchat
09:36:08 pm kristineshaheen: @hybridkris Board games, I love! Settlers of Catan? Set? Bohnanza? #lrnchat
09:36:18 pm jokay: RT @botgirlq: … @Posterous is going to build a free Ning blog importer. http://post.ly/aie8 #lrnchat /via @moehlert @studiolistic
09:36:38 pm sillym0nkey: Games that include player compulsion – collecting, experimenting, exploring, accuracy, completion, social status, performance #lrnchat
09:36:40 pm kristineshaheen: @hybridkris lol I guess two of those are actually card games. Carcassone? #lrnchat
09:36:52 pm usablelearning: @everyselearning saw a post about that just today > keeping the game mechanics simple http://bit.ly/9n4BTb #lrnchat
09:36:58 pm moehlert: RT @epredator: If you need to understand arg worth Reading halting state. Stross puts it in context. #lrnchat
09:37:02 pm billcush: Q3) I wonder if a new hire orientation class for service and/or sales people could be almost entirely a game… #lrnchat
09:37:08 pm jkunrein: @LandDDave gonna disagree again, with love! i think they need to engage people’s real emotions, but not necessarily feel real. #lrnchat
09:37:20 pm trchandler: Thanks. Great resource RT @randyfuj: Educational Alternate Reality Games Literature Review & Primer http://bit.ly/c1XDGh #lrnchat #lrnchat
09:37:24 pm lrnchat: Q4) What type of learning or content do you find ARG most useful for? #lrnchat
09:37:43 pm hybridkris: If you want to see the Zombie Apoc portal it is still active at za.hybrid-dev.com. No game running though (and the server is slow) #lrnchat
09:37:49 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What type of learning or content do you find ARG most useful for? #lrnchat
09:38:15 pm sillym0nkey: Players want to fill the completion bar, collect things, complete tasks, create order, social status – receive recognition #lrnchat
09:38:34 pm ThomasStone: @hybridkris “how many drops is this for you?” “38, simulated.” “How many combat drops?” “2, including this.” Uh oh. (from Aliens) #lrnchat
09:38:42 pm trchandler: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What type of learning or content do you find ARG most useful for? #lrnchat
09:38:46 pm KoreenOlbrish: Great primer on ARGs: Pervasive Games http://bit.ly/bmHifH #lrnchat
09:38:49 pm hybridkris: @kristineshaheen Settlers is the new golf in Silicon Valley. I like Arkham Horror myself (because I love Lovecraft) Complicated tho #lrnchat
09:39:05 pm midquel: I have to say, I’ve never thought much about ARGs, I find all your ideas & links very informative! #lrnchat
09:39:09 pm jkunrein: @nancyrubin saw an interesting talk on Farmville & augmented reality… search youtube for Is Your Life Just One Big RPG? #lrnchat
09:39:10 pm icepoet: @jkunrein if ARG felt to real people wouldn’t take as many risks #lrnchat
09:39:19 pm jmwhite2: RT @randyfuj: Educational Alternate Reality Games – Literature Review & Primer http://bit.ly/c1XDGh #lrnchat #seriousgames
09:39:22 pm billcush: Q4) Most useful learning or content from ARGs..for the multi-player games..its teamwork, performance discussions, reputations. #lrnchat
09:39:26 pm kristineshaheen: @moehlert HHGTTG? “Take buffered analgesic” lol #lrnchat
09:39:33 pm mgharavi: Loving the resources! RT @KoreenOlbrish: Great primer on ARGs: Pervasive Games http://bit.ly/bmHifH #lrnchat
09:39:37 pm jkunrein: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What type of learning or content do you find ARG most useful for? #lrnchat
09:39:46 pm ThomasStone: I too love Settlers, also Ticket To Ride. RT @kristineshaheen: @hybridkris Board games, I love! Settlers of Catan? Set? Bohnanza? #lrnchat
09:39:51 pm moehlert: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Great primer on ARGs: Pervasive Games http://bit.ly/bmHifH #lrnchat
09:39:53 pm kristineshaheen: @hybridkris Like, Arkham Asylum> #lrnchat
09:40:06 pm kristineshaheen: @ThomasStone Ah, also an awesome game! #lrnchat
09:40:09 pm trchandler: @sillym0nkey that’s what I love about Plants vs. Zombies #lrnchat
09:40:33 pm nancyrubin: @jkunrein Thanks. #lrnchat
09:40:42 pm kristineshaheen: #lrnchat , sounds like we should be having a board game convention for our next tweet-up. :@P
09:40:44 pm hybridkris: @ThomasStone Ticket to Ride! I just got that for my Mac! (yes, you play online against others) #lrnchat
09:40:45 pm crystal_bubbles: RT @jokay: RT @botgirlq: … @Posterous is going to build a free Ning blog importer. http://post.ly/aie8 #lrnchat /via @moehlert @studiolistic
09:40:49 pm everyselearning: @usablelearning ok I’m starting to get with the program. I think I learned something tonight. Whew! #lrnchat
09:40:51 pm jkunrein: @icepoet yes, possibly. also may not engage ppl. sitting @ my desk feels real, but wouldn’t want to simulate it in a game. #lrnchat
09:40:52 pm moehlert: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What type of learning or content do you find ARG most useful for? #lrnchat
09:40:53 pm minutebio: RT @moehlert: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Great primer on ARGs: Pervasive Games http://bit.ly/bmHifH #lrnchat
09:40:53 pm mgharavi: *Nods RT @icepoet: if ARG felt to real people wouldnt take as many risks #lrnchat
09:41:22 pm bfchirpy: Games have a tendency to *become* reality. Pilots > simulators > predator drones. #lrnchat
09:41:24 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q4. new hire training, leadership dev, project team building, content training…you name it, design can address it #lrnchat
09:42:16 pm bfchirpy: Q4: what ifs, stress-testing, scenario planning, ‘wargaming’ #lrnchat
09:42:19 pm kelly_smith01: Q4) Use ARG for a complex/time consuming task(s) – Such as managing a client relationship in change mangnt engagement (learn steps) #lrnchat
09:42:20 pm sillym0nkey: Q4) content depends on how the ARG shd b created. but in gen – sales trng, new hire 2collect or find info, connect w/ people & org, #lrnchat
09:42:26 pm ThomasStone: @hybridkris yeah, I played Ticket to Ride online for a while, until my free 6 month trial ran out. Now play with family mostly. #lrnchat
09:42:35 pm LandDDave: I’ve gotta step out a little early tonight folks. Thanks for another engaging #lrnchat
09:43:05 pm moehlert: @bfchirpy hehe. See also “Ender’s Game” by Orson Scott Card #lrnchat
09:43:11 pm egoldstein: I agree RT @simbeckhampson “Edutainment” is a cool phrase… #lrnchat #edchat #education http://bit.ly/aBJVg7
09:43:17 pm nancyrubin: Saw Larry Johnson speak – New Media Consort. Check out Horizon report – http://horizon.wiki.nmc.org/2010+Simple+Augmented+Reality #lrnchat
09:43:18 pm rosamariatorres: #lrnchat Tech may even be absent RT @icepoet @rosamariatorres technology should only enhance the game,not be the foundation of fun &learning
09:43:21 pm sahana2802: Lurking on #lrnchat on and off today…have to complete project-related work…#lrnchat
09:43:29 pm RobRobertson: @ThomasStone @hybridkris another ticket to ride fan here! #lrnchat
09:43:29 pm jkunrein: YES RT @moehlert: @bfchirpy hehe. See also “Enders Game” by Orson Scott Card #lrnchat
09:43:42 pm audioswhite: ARGs effective (IMO) for teaching/ reinforcing concepts and more abstract thinking ILT and Elearn. playing game lrn/apply concepts #Lrnchat
09:44:06 pm billcush: RT @kelly_smith01: Q4) Use ARG for a complex/time consuming task(s) – Such as managing a client relationship in change mgmt #lrnchat
09:44:12 pm jmwhite2: goal should be to provide players with the feeling that they are experiencing something unforgettable. Annika Waern #pervasivegames #lrnchat
09:44:23 pm nancyrubin: Q4) I pay for World of Warcraft every month so my kids can play. Some of these environments have pops. as large as countries. #lrnchat
09:44:28 pm frazery: Transcript for #lrnchat 15-April 2010 (early) ¬´ #Lrnchat Blog: PHP Error MessageWarning: array_keys() [function.a… http://bit.ly/9C90ri
09:44:29 pm frazery: Transcript for #lrnchat 15-April 2010 (early) ¬´ #Lrnchat Blog: 04:42:11 pm hybridkris: Q0) I‚Äôve learned that you c… http://bit.ly/90FmGg
09:44:38 pm jkunrein: Q4) ARGS can teach anything but is it worth it to teach vocab? maybe, or not. i’d pick games 1st for teaching decision-making tho. #lrnchat
09:44:42 pm moehlert: @lrnchat I think of the flexibility of ARGs to handle multiple types of content while using real-world skills #lrnchat
09:45:03 pm KoreenOlbrish: @bfchirpy you seem like a person I’m overdue buying a drink to talk games. we’ll have to make that happen. sorry i missed #gbl10 #lrnchat
09:45:12 pm bfchirpy: @moehlert @jkunrein And surgery. The sim progresses and eventually becomes the interface. #lrnchat
09:45:14 pm audioswhite: need to learn to type faster on iPhone #lrnchat
09:45:23 pm jkunrein: @nancyrubin make a character on Elune (US) and say hi sometime! #lrnchat
09:45:44 pm nancyrubin: RT @nancyrubin: Horizon report – http://ow.ly/1z6uJ #lrnchat
09:45:45 pm moehlert: @nancyrubin Sure😉 Its all for the kids. Just between us..r u Alliance or Hoard? #lrnchat
09:45:56 pm nancyrubin: @jkunrein I will! #lrnchat
09:46:15 pm kelly_smith01: Q4) ARG for health care facility -patient relationship – (Saw one on – patient registering @ hospital & all related activities) #lrnchat
09:46:45 pm jkunrein: HOARD, btw RT @moehlert: @nancyrubin Sure😉 Its all for the kids. Just between us..r u Alliance or Hoard? #lrnchat
09:46:47 pm bfchirpy: @KoreenOlbrish Definitely. #gbl10 was cool. Though a bit schooly for my taste. #lrnchat
09:46:49 pm dglover52: RT @cybraryman1: My students loved Jeopardy for review. My Game sites: http://bit.ly/5Is6Kb #lrnchat http://myloc.me/63dXI
09:46:58 pm TriciaRansom: I’m seeing a lot of uses for learning/practicing relationships. ARG for people skills? #lrnchat
09:47:31 pm nancyrubin: RT @moehlert: @nancyrubin Sure😉 Its all for the kids. Just between us..r u Alliance or Hoard? Alliance🙂 #lrnchat
09:47:42 pm KoreenOlbrish: @bfchirpy Any interest in braving Atlanta in July? I’m still considering ARGFest… #lrnchat
09:47:52 pm icepoet: Q4) ARGs can be used for collaboration, changing minds or a realization #lrnchat
09:48:08 pm icepoet: RT @TriciaRansom: I’m seeing a lot of uses for learning/practicing relationships. ARG for people skills? #lrnchat
09:48:14 pm kelly_smith01: So many cool links tonight – My Personal Knowledge Network will overflow #lrnchat
09:48:16 pm nancyrubin: RT @icepoet: Q4) ARGs can be used for collaboration, changing minds or a realization #lrnchat
09:48:27 pm jmwhite2: In ARG, any action can be a game action. Take the blue pill, wake up in wonderland. Not didactic, but discovery driven #lrnchat
09:48:34 pm hybridkris: @KoreenOlbrish I think it’s June…If it’s July, I’m in. #lrnchat
09:48:38 pm ThomasStone: Speaking of games used in learning contexts, anyone else have nightmares about being forced to play “Oregon Trail” back in the day? #lrnchat
09:48:48 pm sillym0nkey: I use ARGs to train Pirates! #lrnchat
09:48:49 pm kelly_smith01: RT @icepoet: Q4) ARGs can be used for collaboration, changing minds or a realization #lrnchat
09:49:10 pm KoreenOlbrish: @hybridkris it’s July…Hotlanta🙂 #lrnchat
09:49:16 pm hybridkris: @KoreenOlbrish Because if it’s June I (we) will be running an ARG at #mlearncon #lrnchat
09:49:42 pm bfchirpy: @KoreenOlbrish Man, I’ve never been to US and I’m well overdue a visit. And I have family in Houston. Hmmmm…. #lrnchat
09:49:48 pm TriciaRansom: @sillym0nkey do you have a course in swashbuckling? How does one buckle a swash? #lrnchat
09:49:54 pm KoreenOlbrish: @hybridkris LOL…yes *we* will🙂 #lrnchat
09:50:11 pm hybridkris: @KoreenOlbrish Then count me in. #lrnchat
09:50:15 pm kelly_smith01: @ThomasStone Hey – I had the “timeout” kids in a K-5 setting once. Oregon Trail kept the quiet. #lrnchat
09:50:15 pm sillym0nkey: if u are coming to Atlanta you MUST contact me! All of you! #lrnchat
09:50:22 pm moehlert: @ThomasStone Nightmares!? I bought the re-release of that game for my son recently. “YOu have died from dysentary.” Awesome #lrnchat
09:50:23 pm jkunrein: i’ve heard of WoW being used to teach math, literature. seems like a stretch to me, but i think it’s mostly to get kids interested. #lrnchat
09:50:30 pm usablelearning: @KoreenOlbrish @hybridkris July 15-18 http://2010.argfestocon.com/ #lrnchat
09:50:57 pm chambo_online: Missed #lrnchat for a different sort of ARG – Bunco! I won tonight – payout will provide pedi/mani $
09:50:57 pm jkunrein: @ThomasStone I *loved* Oregon Trail! not the same on my iPhone… too many fancy graphics.🙂 #lrnchat
09:51:08 pm bfchirpy: @usablelearning Are you going to Hotlanta too? #lrnchat
09:51:15 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links & requests (or shameless plugs) welcome, too. #lrnchat
09:51:54 pm gregwilliams123: Free Jay Cross Webinar on “Informal Learning” Tues 1-2pm (EST)
http://www.umbc.edu/isd/prospectivestudents/webinars.html #lrnchat #lrnchat
09:52:09 pm bfchirpy: @jkunrein WOW is great for arithmetic, I think. Not so sure about maths maths. But read Total Engagment on WOW – eyeopening #lrnchat
09:52:16 pm nickfloro: June Gaming + event in Washington DC http://innovationsinelearning.gmu.edu , John Romero – looks like great event #lrnchat
09:52:44 pm billcush: Maybe half the battle. RT @jkunrein: i’ve heard of WoW used to teach math, literature..think it’s mostly to get kids interested. #lrnchat
09:52:48 pm trchandler: Checking it out RT @usablelearning: @KoreenOlbrish @hybridkris July 15-18 http://2010.argfestocon.com/ #lrnchat
09:53:10 pm KoreenOlbrish: Shameless plug for me, speaking at #LEEF2010 on ARG case studies from Tandem Learning/Hybrid Learning @hybridkris #lrnchat
09:53:11 pm bfchirpy: Simon Bostock. Going to bed in UK. Check out my new blog on Gameification in learning/work http://gameify.org #lrnchat
09:53:16 pm moehlert: @lrnchat Mark Oehlert here. Closet revolutionary. Anthropologist. Historian. Gamer. #lrnchat
09:53:21 pm jkunrein: @bfchirpy Thanks! #lrnchat
09:53:30 pm sillym0nkey: RT @nickfloro: June Gaming + event in Washington DC http://innovationsinelearning.gmu.edu , John Romero – looks like great event #lrnchat
09:53:30 pm jkunrein: @billcush Probably! #lrnchat
09:53:34 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, ISD Consultant, North Texas, Learning Articulate, Reviving my blog. #lrnchat
09:53:44 pm usablelearning: @bfchirpy Ack! Total Engagement is still sitting on my shelf, mocking me with it’s unread state. #lrnchat
09:53:51 pm ThomasStone: @moehlert The “nightmarish” aspect was not the game per se, but being forced to play that one and only one game my school had! #lrnchat
09:53:55 pm nancyrubin: Qwrap) Thanks for enlightening me! Ready to enter a reality game – Twilight Zone anyone -Star Trek- beam me up. http://ow.ly/1z6B3 #lrnchat
09:54:05 pm KoreenOlbrish: I’ll be speaking at #LEEF2010 while @hybridkris is doing the heavy lifting of delivering another ARG at #mlearncon whew! #lrnchat
09:54:06 pm trchandler: Todd Chandler, competitive by nature and learning to evolve from case studies to ARGs in Kansas City thanks to #lrnchat
09:54:09 pm hybridkris: Kris Rockwell, Hybrid Learning Systems. Mobile learning punk & serious games guy. #lrnchat Going to #mLearnCon? We’ll be doing an ARG.
09:54:11 pm sillym0nkey: John Romero is a great speaker #lrnchat
09:54:19 pm moehlert: RT @BFchirpy: Simon Bostock. Going to bed in UK. Check out my new blog on Gameification in learning/work http://gameify.org #lrnchat
09:54:41 pm TriciaRansom: G’night from Tricia in Chicago. Learned lots…and going to watch my Star Trek/Twilight Zone/Project Runway. #lrnchat
09:54:42 pm mgharavi: Great stuff! Will check it out. RT @bfchirpy: Simon Bostock… my new blog on Gameification in learning/work http://gameify.org #lrnchat
09:54:42 pm moehlert: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Shameless plug 4 me, speaking at #LEEF2010 on ARG case studies from Tandem Learning/Hybrid Learning @hybridkris #lrnchat
09:55:15 pm everyselearning: Shameless plug.I wonder if that Twitter handle is taken.Interactive elearning,DW CS4 & online business hosting http://bit.ly/21vad7 #lrnchat
09:55:18 pm mgharavi: Mahdi Gharavi in DC. Had a BLAST learning from everyone tonight! Many thanks, folks #lrnchat
09:55:29 pm jkunrein: Judy Unrein, ID for boring ol’ vanilla elearning in Kansas City. Occasionally blog at http://onehundredfortywords.com/. #lrnchat
09:55:32 pm ThomasStone: Even though “definition of game” came up earlier, I’m glad I didn’t see the name Wittgenstein mentioned at all http://bit.ly/dcbVC3 #lrnchat
09:55:53 pm hybridkris: RT @KoreenOlbrish: I’ll be speaking at #LEEF2010 while @hybridkris is doing the heavy lifting of delivering another ARG at #mlearncon whew! #lrnchat
09:55:58 pm sleveo: RT @everyselearning @bfchirpy If you are learning there is a curve. Otherwise you would be doing. #lrnchat Beautiful
09:56:06 pm mgharavi: @nickfloro Thanks for the tip on the event @ GMU (local 4me). Gonna check it out. Let me know if you come down for it. #lrnchat
09:56:12 pm billcush: Qwrap) Bill..just obsessed with helping hotel sales people learn how to find group business..lots of ways to learn how to do that. #lrnchat
09:56:14 pm nancyrubin: RT @nickfloro: http://innovationsinelearning.gmu.edu – Looks interesting!! #lrnchat
09:56:15 pm northlight: lurking #lrnchat
09:56:22 pm ThomasStone: Thomas Stone, from Element K in Rochester, NY. With #lrnchat over for tonight, I’m off to play a game… some online Texas Hold’em.
09:56:29 pm icepoet: Great #lrnchat tonight Avni – EDTEC Grad Student – looking for ways to use serious gaming to promote youth self esteem – goodnight all!
09:56:35 pm rosamariatorres: #lrnchat Specialist in lifelong learning and learning communities.Surprised to see how tech has taken over even games and play! Thanks/Qwrap
09:56:41 pm cnagel: I’m sad I missed #lrnchat today…
09:56:55 pm jmwhite2: Mark White, serious games, ARG, learning, interactive art and design #lrnchat
09:57:04 pm usablelearning: @lrnchat ‘Night lrnchat-ers. Julie Dirksen, Minneapolis. So who wants to figure out how to do #lrnchat in an ARG?
09:57:28 pm sillym0nkey: RT @KoreenOlbrish: I’ll b speaking @ #LEEF2010 while @hybridkris doing heavy lifting of delivering ARG@t #mlearncon whew! #lrnchat
09:57:31 pm KoreenOlbrish: Koreen Olbrish, Tandem Learning, ARG player and designer, virtual worlds, simulations, games, & social media. Fan girl. Mom. #lrnchat
09:57:33 pm minutebio: Jeff e-Learning Guy in Baltimore. Been gr8, goodnight. #lrnchat
09:57:40 pm kelly_smith01: Enjoyed to tonight. Now of to play Oregon Trail. Will avoid Donner Pass and Grizzlies. #lrnchat
09:57:50 pm kristineshaheen: @ThomasStone I’m glad you mentioned it. #lrnchat
09:58:01 pm randyfuj: Currently designing an educational ARG for #socialstudies class http://bit.ly/c15FLk #lrnchat #seriousgames
09:58:02 pm CanadianPacMan: Just got in from coaching ball hockey and missed #lrnchat
09:58:16 pm mgharavi: Got a LOT from my first #lrnchat. Much to think about. lots of ideas a’brewin. Thanks to everyone! #lrnchat
09:58:38 pm jkunrein: @kelly_smith01 Don’t die of dysentery! #lrnchat
09:58:51 pm sillym0nkey: Deb Thomas – game designer – love training, LOVE IT! wrkg on decoder mobile game Now! #lrnchat
09:59:03 pm moehlert: @mgharavi #lrnchat Tell your friends!🙂
09:59:19 pm kristineshaheen: All right, #lrnchat, I guess that’ll be me for the night… trying to reset my sleep schedule, and off to Quebec City in the morning.
10:00:16 pm gregwilliams123: Greg Williams, Professor at Univ, of Maryland,..that’s for a great learning experience #lrnchat
10:00:32 pm kelly_smith01: @jkunrein I’m cheating bring Gatoraide (hidden in mule’s saddle bag also some Tum’s) #lrnchat

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