Transcript 18-March 2010 (early)

4:31 pm lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been? Q0 warm up after the rules.
4:32 pm lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1) Introduce yourself. (We do this again at the end). Location? Focus? Fave topics?
4:32 pm kelly_smith01: Does EU need one of our fine mentoring programs on Daylight Savings Time #lrnchat
4:32 pm mellissalast: Alert: About to take part in live twitter chat #lrnchat.
4:33 pm sifowler: Participating in #lrnchat for the next 90 mins, if you’re interested in learning stuff about learning. #lrnchat
4:33 pm mrch0mp3rs: Aaron Silvers, Active Community-ist. Chicago, IL #lrnchat
4:33 pm MichelleLavoie: Q0 Michelle Lavoie, Massachusetts (US), training & development, SoMe fave! #lrnchat
4:33 pm InSyncEU: Weekly fix of all things learning #lrnchat for next few hours Why not come join us??
4:34 pm ranellem: ATTN: I’m about to take part in live twitter chat for next 90 mins. #lrnchat
4:34 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Kelly Smith, ISD Consultant, Dallas #lrnchat
4:34 pm petersonandrew: Andrew Peterson, Michigan, Game Based Education #lrnchat
4:34 pm MichelleLavoie: @mrch0mp3rs Or community activist🙂 #lrnchat
4:35 pm JudithELS: Hi, Judith Christian-Carter, England, Instructional Designer, co-owner of a L&D company & a frequent Twitterer. #lrnchat
4:35 pm simbeckhampson: Guten abend…Paul Simbeck-Hampson, Learnscaper, Bavaria #lrnchat
4:35 pm torriedunlap: I’m Torrie. In San Diego. My focus is training child care professionals how to include kids with disabilities. fave is eLearning. #lrnchat
4:35 pm TriciaRansom: Q0 Tricia Ransom, Chicago, IL. L&D and OD and HPT #lrnchat
4:35 pm mellissalast: Q0) Mellissa, STILL reviewing learner survey results and working on CSTD certification. Toronto, Ontario #lrnchat
4:35 pm InSyncEU: Q0 – David Smith, Leeds Yorkshire – Helping Trainers/Designers/Companies to be more effective in the live online classroom #lrnchat
4:35 pm ranellem: Q0: Ranelle Maltas, Lincoln Nebraska USA, computer training for faculty/staff at University of Nebraska-Lincoln. #lrnchat
4:35 pm JffZllr: Jeff Zoller, Learning Consultant, Columbus OH #lrnchat
4:35 pm lrnchat: 2) [try to] stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 20 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
4:35 pm MichelleLavoie: @petersonandrew Love Wordles as a vocabulary builder #lrnchat
4:35 pm lrnchat: 4) Remember to include the #lrnchat in all posts. http://tweetchat.com http://tweetgrid.com & http://twubs.com/lrnchat work well
4:35 pm lrnchat: 3) When writing, complete thoughts help followers outside chat learn from you. #lrnchat
4:35 pm sifowler: Simon Fowler, R&D Forum Corp, Fe Fi Fo Fum in Boston, #lrnchat luvver #lrnchat
4:36 pm TriciaRansom: NOTICE: on a live twitter chat for next 90 minutes – may want to ignore my tweets or come join us! #lrnchat
4:36 pm lrnchat: 5) Periodically RT questions so others outside #lrnchat know what you?re talking about & they can chime in too
4:36 pm simbeckhampson: Excuse my volume of tweets – its time for #lrnchat – all welcome🙂
4:37 pm tonya_simmons: Tonya Goth Simmons, production designer, Phasient Learning Technologies, Ames IA #lrnchat
4:37 pm edwsonoma: @c4lpt afternoon, Jane! nice to see u. I am lurking in #lrnchat today, but rules say we introduce ourselves – Ellen from Sonoma CA.
4:37 pm c4lpt: Jane Hart from Bath in England – trying to think of a new title that sums up everything I do #lrnchat
4:37 pm simbeckhampson: @InSyncEU Hi Dave, nice to see you, to see you nice🙂 #lrnchat
4:38 pm kelticray: #lrnchat Donna Bailey | Salt Lake City | teaching, training, blended learning
4:38 pm lrnchat: 6) On #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm & irony welcome though. Really.
4:38 pm c4lpt: @edwsonoma Ellen, lovely to see you too – it’s bn a long time since Online Educa #lrnchat
4:38 pm MichelleLavoie: @c4lpt new title: Empress of all things! #lrnchat
4:38 pm TriciaRansom: @c4lpt Bath is one of my favorite places – if only had enough $ to buy on Royal Crescent! #lrnchat
4:38 pm odguru: Christy Guelph Canada – Social media for learning and OD, mentoring and measurement #lrnchat
4:38 pm simbeckhampson: Hi Kelly… #lrnchat
4:39 pm LandDDave: David Kelly, Training Director for NYC Bank, focused on all aspects of corporate learning. #lrnchat
4:39 pm MichelleLavoie: @kelticray Went to Ivins (near St George) last week; Utah is beautiful! #lrnchat
4:39 pm kelticray: Excuse my focus on #lrnchat tweets for awhile. Join if u’d like
4:39 pm lrnchat: 7) 10 min before end, time to reintroduce yourself. Links & requests (or shameless plugs) welcome, too #lrnchat
4:39 pm JudithELS: @TriciaRansom I went to college in Bath – 4 glorious years living there. #lrnchat
4:39 pm lrnchat: Q0 (our weekly #lrnchat welcome) What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
4:40 pm z_rose: Zoe Rose, Cambridge UK. Web designer for http://www.english360.com, an English Language Teaching website. #lrnchat
4:40 pm InSyncEU: @simbeckhampson Never had you down as a bruce forsyth fan Paul!! #lrnchat
4:40 pm kelly_smith01: Hi simbeckhampson🙂 #lrnchat
4:40 pm simbeckhampson: @JudithELS Do you say Baaath or Baf ? #lrnchat
4:40 pm MichelleLavoie: Q0 I learned that I can do ANYTHING for two minutes #lrnchat
4:40 pm simbeckhampson: @InSyncEU Mr Entertainment – he could tell a few tales😉 #lrnchat
4:40 pm mrch0mp3rs: I learned a lot today about Daylight Savings Time, and how the US moving three weeks ahead kinda screws up our sync’ing with the EU #lrnchat
4:41 pm ranellem: “Who dares to teach must never cease to learn.”-John Cotton Dana #lrnchat
4:41 pm LandDDave: Q0) I learned about TweetChat, which so far seems like a more appropriate way to participate in chats like this. #lrnchat
4:41 pm c4lpt: @triciaransom @judithELS I actually live outside Bath, Bath itself is very expensive as you say #lrnchat
4:41 pm sifowler: RT @lrnchat: Q0 (our weekly #lrnchat welcome) What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week? #lrnchat
4:41 pm tonya_simmons: Q0) I’m learning waaay too much about pressure ulcers today #lrnchat
4:41 pm odguru: Q0) Reading Three Cups of Tea finally. Head explosion of learning in there… #lrnchat
4:41 pm JudithELS: Q0 that designing experiential e-Learning is very hard but satisfying work #lrnchat
4:41 pm ChristyATucker: Christy Tucker, instructional designer, currently “Moodle queen” in our team #lrnchat
4:42 pm LandDDave: Q0) Good point @mrch0mp3rs – I also learned another reason not to care for Daylight Savings Time. #lrnchat
4:42 pm kelly_smith01: Q0) I learned I need to go back & review Dick/Carey & maybe Component Display (Merrill) #lrnchat
4:42 pm JffZllr: What have I learned? (more of a reminder) – Parkinson’s Law… work expands to fill the amount of time we allocate for it… #lrnchat
4:42 pm odguru: @mrch0mp3rs Ya time change shenanigans – seriously not helpful! #lrnchat
4:42 pm ChristyATucker: Q0) Today I learned something in Moodle that is going to make my life much, much easier. Yippee! #lrnchat
4:42 pm mellissalast: Q0) Practice exams are great. Thank goodness they are *JUST* practice.🙂 #lrnchat
4:42 pm oxala75: argh – first week that i can do EU #lrnchat and the time change puts it in the middle of meetings😦
4:42 pm ranellem: I’m learning to say ‘no’ to some requests. Hard to do as I like to help everyone. #lrnchat
4:42 pm JudithELS: @simbeckhampson oh gosh I say Baaath – as first year students we had a long discussion about this with our peers from the North. #lrnchat
4:42 pm MichelleLavoie: RT @JffZllr: What have I learned? – Parkinsons Law… work expands to fill the amount of time we allocate for it… #lrnchat
4:42 pm torriedunlap: QO I learned that nothing happens to an adult who doesn’t wear green on St. Paddy’s Day #lrnchat
4:42 pm mrch0mp3rs: @LandDDave @odguru You gotta thank @c4lpt for catching it in my wee hours this morning. #lrnchat
4:43 pm simbeckhampson: @ChristyATucker ..-having an easier life is definitely something cool! #lrnchat
4:43 pm edwsonoma: @c4lpt ha – I gave up trying to explain what I do. I’ve learned that mystery can be a feature, not a bug #lrnchat. K, back to lurking🙂
4:43 pm simbeckhampson: @JudithELS giggle – its still an on going English devide issue😉 #lrnchat
4:43 pm z_rose: I learned that SCOs *can be deployed in VLEs from external domains with authentication, excellent news for us publishers! #lrnchat
4:43 pm LandDDave: I hadn’t heard of that. True though. RT @JffZllr: Parkinsons Law… work expands to fill the amount of time we allocate for it… #lrnchat
4:44 pm c4lpt: @MichelleLavoie Thx for suggestion for my new title. It might go to my head🙂 #lrnchat
4:44 pm TriciaRansom: Using tweetchat for #lrnchat and it’s working very well so far. Tweeps from around the world talking about coaching & mentoring
4:44 pm mellissalast: RT @ranellem: I’m learning to say ‘no’ to some requests. Hard to do as I like to help everyone. #lrnchat
4:44 pm mrch0mp3rs: I love this, and will steal it. RT @edwsonoma I’ve learned that mystery can be a feature, not a bug #lrnchat
4:44 pm ChristyATucker: @simbeckhampson Yep. I was worried about a bunch of manual due date changes, but figured out Moodle can do it automagically #lrnchat
4:45 pm sifowler: Q0) I learned the word ‘provenance’ from @mrch0mp3rs last week. I can’t stop thinking about it. #lrnchat
4:45 pm MichelleLavoie: @LandDDave It’s all about priorities; love the “work expands to fill the amount of time we allocate for it” quote #lrnchat
4:45 pm simbeckhampson: Q0. I learnt about ipadio and sclipo and zorap – all three are highly recommended. (funny names eh!) #lrnchat
4:45 pm LandDDave: I believe the training term is ‘borrow’ RT @mrch0mp3rs: I love this, and will steal it. #lrnchat
4:45 pm lrnchat: Q1) Do you view mentoring and coaching as synonymous. Why/why not? #lrnchat
4:45 pm TriciaRansom: Q0) People are people wherever they are, and bureaucracy is bureaucracy wherever it is. #lrnchat
4:45 pm MichelleLavoie: @ChristyATucker Automagically? That’s my fav word! #lrnchat
4:45 pm LearnNuggets: RT @z_rose: I learned that SCOs *can be deployed in VLEs from external domains with authentication, excellent news for us publishers! #lrnchat
4:45 pm odguru: RT @edwsonoma I’ve learned that mystery can be a feature, not a bug <Mentoring is a formal relationship, coaching is an everyday (as needed) experience. #lrnchat
4:48 pm edwsonoma: coaching is to training what mentoring is to education #lrnchat.
4:48 pm mellissalast: Q1) Part of mentoring is coaching. But not all coaching is mentoring. #lrnchat
4:48 pm ChristyATucker: RT @petersonandrew: Q1) coach pushes mentors guide #lrnchat
4:48 pm mellissalast: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Do you view mentoring and coaching as synonymous. Why/why not? #lrnchat
4:49 pm SMARTTrainer: RT @ranellem: “Who dares to teach must never cease to learn.”-John Cotton Dana #lrnchat
4:49 pm c4lpt: RT @ChristyATucker: Q1) Coaching could be time limited; mentoring feels more about a long-term relationship #lrnchat
4:49 pm petersonandrew: @TriciaRansom is it depressing when the course is boiled down to 140 character answers🙂 #lrnchat
4:49 pm c4lpt: RT @MichelleLavoie: Q1 Mentoring and coaching are SO different. Mentoring is a formal relationship, coaching is an everyday (as needed) experience #lrnchat
4:49 pm ChristyATucker: Agreed RT @mellissalast: Q1) Part of mentoring is coaching. But not all coaching is mentoring. #lrnchat
4:49 pm mrch0mp3rs: Q1) To me, coaching implies an act (shorter engagement and commitment). Mentoring implies a longer commitment, deeper relationship #lrnchat
4:49 pm LandDDave: q1) I see mentoring as more long-term and passive than coaching. #lrnchat
4:49 pm c4lpt: RT @edwsonoma: coaching is to training what mentoring is to education #lrnchat.
4:49 pm LearnNuggets: Out taking pictures of old Memphis today so missing EU #lrnchat. Catch up at tonight’s session.
4:50 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) Think it depends on your experiences w/coaching, w/mentoring and your personal connotations for the words #lrnchat
4:50 pm mellissalast: HAHAHA! RT @LandDDave: @mrch0mp3rs I see… Just so I’m clear- we ‘borrow’ in training, but ‘steal’ in learning?🙂 #lrnchat
4:50 pm MichelleLavoie: Coaching often happens in the moment; mentoring is often a scheduled event with post-work #lrnchat
4:50 pm sifowler: Q1) Coaching feels like the coach is the expert; mentoring feels more like care/nurture of the expert #lrnchat
4:50 pm simbeckhampson: Q1 Monitoring – more long-term and takes a broader view of the person.Coaching – Short-term & focused on specific development areas #lrnchat
4:50 pm c4lpt: RT @mellissalast: Q1) Part of mentoring is coaching. But not all coaching is mentoring. #lrnchat
4:50 pm TriciaRansom: I agree RT @mellissalast: Q1) Part of mentoring is coaching. But not all coaching is mentoring. #lrnchat
4:50 pm ChristyATucker: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q1) Coaching implies shorter engagement and commitment. Mentoring implies a longer commitment, deeper relationship #lrnchat
4:50 pm torriedunlap: Q!- Coaching may be around a specific goal or org obj where mentoring is more holistic and could be longer term. #lrnchat
4:51 pm ChristyATucker: RT @sifowler: Q1) Coaching feels like the coach is the expert; mentoring feels more like care/nurture of the expert #lrnchat
4:51 pm InSyncEU: Q1 – Coaching – instruct/train in the now, mentor – develop the individual over time #lrnchat
4:51 pm JudithELS: Q1 You should be able to choose your mentor but are often designated a coach. #lrnchat
4:51 pm odguru: One major difference is who drives the agenda. In mentoring, the mentee drives the agenda, mentor responds. Coach uses process. #lrnchat
4:51 pm tonya_simmons: q1) mentoring is def. more a long-term formal relationship #lrnchat
4:51 pm c4lpt: @CraigTaylor74 Need to use #lrnchat rather than @lrnchat
4:51 pm MichelleLavoie: Q1 Is it the formality of the coaching / mentoring relationship that makes a difference? #lrnchat
4:51 pm JffZllr: @mrch0mp3rs – Would this be the same role, just different durations? #lrnchat
4:52 pm JudithELS: Q1 A mentor is often someone with an acknowledged status and experience. #lrnchat
4:52 pm petersonandrew: RT @JudithELS: Q1 You should be able to choose your mentor but are often designated a coach. #lrnchat
4:52 pm odguru: INteresteing to see people saying formal. Much mentoring is informal. Informal= soul connection formed opportunistically. #lrnchat
4:52 pm kelly_smith01: I think a mentoring program should have objectives, performance standards, and criteria. #lrnchat
4:52 pm simbeckhampson: Q1) Mentoring – Focus is on career and personal development. Coaching – Focus is generally on development/issues at work. #lrnchat
4:52 pm mrch0mp3rs: RT @MichelleLavoie Q1 Is it the formality of the coaching / mentoring relationship that makes a difference? #lrnchat
4:52 pm LandDDave: Q1) I think there’s a general consensus about what coaching is and how it works that doesn’t exist in mentoring. #lrnchat
4:53 pm mellissalast: Good pt. RT @JudithELS: Q1 You should be able to choose your mentor but are often designated a coach. #lrnchat
4:53 pm InSyncEU: Q1 – Coach – instructs, develops potential in person(s), Mentor – imparts knowledge and experience that person mirrors/learns #lrnchat
4:53 pm LandDDave: Q1) I also think that general consensus is generally wrong. #lrnchat
4:53 pm odguru: Always think of mentoring as knowledge transfer/creation with relationship. Coaching is performance driven typically. #lrnchat
4:53 pm mrch0mp3rs: Mentors coach, not all coaches are mentors? RT @JffZllr: @mrch0mp3rs – Would this be the same role, just different durations? #lrnchat
4:53 pm TriciaRansom: RT @simbeckhampson: Q1) Mentoring – Focus on career & personal development. Coaching – Focus mainly on development/issues @ work. #lrnchat
4:53 pm ChristyATucker: Maybe coaching is more about a specific performance goal, but mentoring is about improving the individual overall? #lrnchat
4:53 pm JffZllr: Is coaching task based whereas mentoring is process based? (implies different durations?) #lrnchat
4:53 pm mojotillett: Q1) for both coaching and mentoring part of the responsibility is still on the student to be open and accepting #lrnchat
4:53 pm mellissalast: RT @odguru: 1 major diff is who drives agenda. In mentoring, the mentee drives agenda, mentor responds. Coach uses process. #lrnchat
4:53 pm MichelleLavoie: Q1 @LandDDave I think that mentoring is more formal a process, with agreed upon goals, timelines. Coaching could be a deskstop #lrnchat
4:54 pm odguru: RT @kelly_smith01: mentoring program should have objectives, performance standards, and criteria. << Learning goals are critical #lrnchat
4:54 pm JudithELS: RT @simbeckhampson: M'ing Focus is on career and personal development. Coaching – Focus is generally on development/issues at work. #lrnchat
4:54 pm InSyncEU: RT @simbeckhampson: Q1) Mentoring – Focus on career and personal development. Coaching – Focus on development/issues at work. #lrnchat yep
4:54 pm mellissalast: Mentoring can be informal. RT @tonya_simmons: q1) mentoring is def. more a long-term formal relationship #lrnchat
4:54 pm torriedunlap: Q1 Mentoring can be used to help people with their career development- motivation, connections and advice. #lrnchat
4:54 pm lmccune: q1. Mentors are generally long term. Coaching – short term. #lrnchat
4:54 pm oxala75: @cammybean leaving for my meeting now. Maybe I'll make them take a look at #lrnchat.
4:54 pm Rsuominen: comes late to the #lrnchat discussion.
4:54 pm LandDDave: RT @simbeckhampson: Mentoring- Focus is on career and pers development. Coaching – Focus is generally on development/issues @ work. #lrnchat
4:54 pm eksploratore: late joining – as intro, work in higher edu but practitioner background (a moment of madness led to academia?)#lrnchat
4:54 pm simbeckhampson: Mentors have more experience and open doors to otherwise out-of-reach opportunities. #lrnchat
4:54 pm MichelleLavoie: Q1 Both intended to change/improve performance #lrnchat
4:54 pm TriciaRansom: Q1)Mentoring can be formal & informal. Coaching seems to be very structured and formal. #lrnchat
4:55 pm mellissalast: RT @simbeckhampson: Q1) Mentoring – Focus is on career and personal development. Coaching – Focus is generally on development/issues at work. #lrnchat
4:55 pm manishmo: Coaching is current job/role, mentoring is beyond current job: career, life… #lrnchat
4:55 pm tonya_simmons: By formality was refering to meeting schedule and duration of relationship – but, yes often mentoring can be just talking tog. #lrnchat
4:55 pm odguru: Coach uses general info to focus u on current problem. Mentor uses current problem to help u understand general truths. #lrnchat
4:55 pm JffZllr: I'm not to sure about the distinctions we're making… wouldn't a 'life coach' be a mentor?😉 #lrnchat
4:55 pm eksploratore: mentoring about purpose and learning; coaching about performance?#lrnchat
4:55 pm MichelleLavoie: RT @manishmo: Coaching is current job/role, mentoring is beyond current job: career, life… #lrnchat
4:55 pm LandDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Do you view mentoring and coaching as synonymous. Why/why not? #lrnchat
4:56 pm sifowler: I like that RT @eksploratore: mentoring about purpose and learning; coaching about performance? #lrnchat
4:56 pm simbeckhampson: Coaching – The agenda is focused on achieving specific, immediate goals #lrnchat
4:56 pm MichelleLavoie: RT @odguru: Coach uses general info to focus on current problem. Mentor uses current problem to help u understand gen'l truths. #lrnchat
4:56 pm mrch0mp3rs: I have a coach to help me work on communicating better. I have mentors invested in every aspect of my development as a person #lrnchat
4:56 pm InSyncEU: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Mentors coach, not all coaches are mentors? – Agreed – A Role model would mentor an individual #lrnchat
4:56 pm tanyafusco: Get involved a be a mentor, there's several ways to do it through Big Brothers Big Sisters! http://bit.ly/95whoU #lrnchat
4:57 pm mrch0mp3rs: To @mojotillett's point, Miyagi couldn't coach Daniel-son or mentor him, if Daniel-son was not willing and able to accept the gift. #lrnchat
4:57 pm petersonandrew: Q1) mentoring involves less push-ups #lrnchat
4:57 pm mellissalast: Nice to see a similarity! RT @MichelleLavoie: Q1 Both intended to change/improve performance #lrnchat
4:57 pm TriciaRansom: I like this! RT @odguru: Coach: use general info 2 focus current problem. Mentor: uses current problem 2 help u know general truths #lrnchat
4:57 pm mrch0mp3rs: @InSyncEU I don't know that a Role Model necessarily mentors an individual. Role Models don't have to be engaged to be role models #lrnchat
4:57 pm LandDDave: Q1) More standards may be needed for mentoring. Just being assigned someone to learn from doesn't make it a mentoring program #lrnchat
4:57 pm simbeckhampson: RT @petersonandrew: Q1) mentoring involves less push-ups #lrnchat < nice…
4:58 pm mrch0mp3rs: NICE RT @petersonandrew petersonandrew: Q1) mentoring involves less push-ups #lrnchat
4:58 pm torriedunlap: Hee hee hee! RT @petersonandrew: Q1) mentoring involves less push-ups #lrnchat
4:58 pm petersonandrew: RT @odguru: Coach uses general info to focus u on current problem. Mentor uses current problem to help u understand general truths. #lrnchat
4:58 pm ChristyATucker: Nice! RT @odguru: Coach: use general info 2 focus current problem. Mentor: uses current problem 2 help u know general truths #lrnchat
4:58 pm JffZllr: @mojotillett A h… when the student is ready the teacher will appear! #lrnchat
4:58 pm mellissalast: RT @petersonandrew: Q1) mentoring involves less push-ups #lrnchat
4:58 pm eksploratore: RT @ChristyATucker: Nice! RT @odguru: Coach: use general info 2 focus current problem. Mentor: uses current problem 2 help u know general truths #lrnchat
4:59 pm simbeckhampson: Mentoring: helping to shape an individual?s beliefs and values in a positive way #lrnchat
4:59 pm torriedunlap: RT @JffZllr: @mojotillett A h… when the student is ready the teacher will appear! #lrnchat one of my fave concepts!
4:59 pm mrch0mp3rs: Something tells me I've tweeted this before, since I put it on my Moo cards: Role Model < Coach < Mentor #lrnchat
4:59 pm simbeckhampson: helping another person to improve awareness, to set and achieve goals in order to improve a particular behavioural performance #lrnchat
4:59 pm sifowler: one hope's so! RT @simbeckhampson: Mentoring: helping to shape an individual?s beliefs and values in a positive way #lrnchat
4:59 pm InSyncEU: @mrch0mp3rs Agreed, meant more that often a role model would act as a mentor not necessarily have a coaching qual #lrnchat
5:00 pm kelticray: I agree with RT @mellissalast: Q1) Part of mentoring is coaching. But not all coaching is mentoring. #lrnchat
5:00 pm JudithELS: Q1 Mentoring usually allows the person to decide whether or not they want to take on board the advice given. #lrnchat
5:00 pm TriciaRansom: Q0) I've learned L&D folds have a great sense of humor! #lrnchat
5:00 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Helped deelop a mentoring program for truck drivers – exp. truck drivers "mentor" new drivers #lrnchat
5:00 pm simbeckhampson: The test of a good coach is that when they leave, others will carry on successfully… #lrnchat
5:00 pm ranellem: Q1) Role Model < Coach < Mentor (via @mrch0mp3rs) #lrnchat
5:00 pm odguru: @TriciaRansom thanks Tricia. Coaching = cab ride 2 get where ur going; mentoring=scenic flight/ understanding of the places u live. #lrnchat
5:00 pm lmccune: Q1) Mentoring is one of many tools used by Life Coaches. #lrnchat
5:01 pm odguru: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Something tells me Ive tweeted this before, since I put it on my Moo cards: Role Model < Coach < Mentor #lrnchat
5:01 pm eksploratore: @simbeckhampson are you meaning mentoring is about (self) awareness and coaching about performance? If so, yes! #lrnchat
5:01 pm MichelleLavoie: RT @odguru: @TriciaRansom Coaching = cab ride 2 get where ur going; mentoring=scenic flight/ understanding the places u live. #lrnchat
5:01 pm kelly_smith01: Can't type during lunch intended "Helped develop a mentoring program.." #lrnchat
5:01 pm Rsuominen: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Do you view mentoring and coaching as synonymous. Why/why not? #lrnchat
5:01 pm simbeckhampson: @sifowler🙂 #lrnchat
5:02 pm tonya_simmons: Okay, going to go micro some lunch & focus on #lrnchat now, b/c I'm not eating lunch while listening to a pressure ulcer course
5:02 pm simbeckhampson: @eksploratore yep… #lrnchat
5:03 pm MichelleLavoie: @tonya_simmons Sounds like a good plan of action not to eat lunch while listening to a pressure ulcer course #lrnchat
5:04 pm kelticray: What about the responsibility of teacher and student for each? #lrnchat
5:04 pm bschlenker: Oops! Sorry I'm late – Glad my karate kid character names google alert pinged me😉 #lrnchat
5:04 pm simbeckhampson: @MichelleLavoie I'll second that – makes me feel all queasy… #lrnchat
5:04 pm sifowler: I'm v hungry, didn't get lunch b4 lrnchat. Q1) coach tells me 'suck it up!', mentor asks me 'what is your deeper hunger?' #lrnchat
5:04 pm MichelleLavoie: Q1 Expert or expertise to be a mentor? #lrnchat
5:04 pm odguru: ?: Think of coach & mentor. how does it feel different looking forward to a meeting with each of them? #lrnchat
5:05 pm mrch0mp3rs: @bschlenker LOLz #lrnchat
5:05 pm MichelleLavoie: RT @sifowler: coach tells me suck it up!, mentor asks me what is your deeper hunger? #lrnchat
5:05 pm odguru: HA! RT @sifowler: Im v hungry, didnt get lunch b4 lrnchat. coach tells me suck it up!, mentor asks me what is your deeper hunger? #lrnchat
5:05 pm mrch0mp3rs: RT @sifowler I didn't get lunch b4 lrnchat. Q1) coach tells me 'suck it up!', mentor asks me 'what is your deeper hunger?' #lrnchat
5:06 pm z_rose: @sifowler a sandwich? #lrnchat
5:06 pm ranellem: RT @sifowler: didnt get lunch b4 lrnchat. Q1) coach tells me suck it up!, mentor asks me what is your deeper hunger? (too funny!) #lrnchat
5:06 pm kelticray: #lrnchat Depending on your view of the roles of each teacher/student, mentor and coach may be synonymous
5:06 pm Dave_Ferguson: In real world (in my exp), mentor often anointed (e.g. by role), less structured. Coach, more fcused, more formative feedback. #lrnchat
5:06 pm torriedunlap: RT @MichelleLavoie: Q1 Expert or expertise to be a mentor? #lrnchat Yes, and/or experience!
5:06 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Mentoring/coaching both Informal Learning – But Mentoring leans to or stands close to Formal Learning #lrnchat
5:06 pm MichelleLavoie: @odguru Coaches inspire and push; mentors explain the 'behind the scenes" stuff that you don't get elsewhere #lrnchat
5:06 pm TriciaRansom: @kelticray To be open, to learn, to be accountable, to be civil, to disagree when needed. (what are resp. for teacher & student?) #lrnchat
5:06 pm lrnchat: Q2) How does your organization use coaching and/or mentoring? Is it working? #lrnchat
5:07 pm mrch0mp3rs: @Dave_Ferguson Talk to me about anointed mentors. Interesting choice of words there. #lrnchat
5:07 pm Dave_Ferguson: Sorry to say this, but 'coach' can conjure up either shopworn sports metaphors or motivational-poster chirpy types. #lrnchat
5:07 pm sifowler: interesting distinction to think about RT @MichelleLavoie: Q1 Expert or expertise to be a mentor? #lrnchat
5:07 pm sheridan_webb: @lrnchat no, but often used interchangeably. Coaching is more formal. Mentoring is about being a role model #lrnchat.
5:07 pm simbeckhampson: @kelly_smith01 Kelly should DRINK, informal learning (is informal learning on the list?) #lrnchat
5:07 pm mrch0mp3rs: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How does your organization use coaching and/or mentoring? Is it working? #lrnchat
5:07 pm Casillia: "Tech Tools for Education Majors" presentation to HE student teacher supervisors http://prezi.com/vevjfnbrifqz/ RT @bwasson #edtech #lrnchat
5:08 pm c4lpt: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How does your organization use coaching and/or mentoring? Is it working? #lrnchat
5:08 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How does your organization use coaching and/or mentoring? Is it working? #lrnchat
5:08 pm Rsuominen: I agree RT @MichelleLavoie Q1 Both intended to improve performance #lrnchat
5:08 pm PowerHour60: @lrnchat many of the skills are the same, but I think the balance is different between coach/mentor and individual. Do you agree? #lrnchat.
5:08 pm sifowler: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How does your organization use coaching and/or mentoring? Is it working? #lrnchat
5:08 pm torriedunlap: Q2 Our org provides coaching formally and mentoring organically- works but there is never enough time. #lrnchat
5:08 pm Dave_Ferguson: Anointed mentor: b/c of rank, status. Calling me a mentor doesn't make me one; writing w quill doesn't make me Shakespeare #lrnchat
5:08 pm LandDDave: Q2) We introduced coaching last year with mixed results. Still working on skills with coaches. Mentoring isn't in the radar. #lrnchat
5:09 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) former company every person in org had a mentor – even the prez. New hires after 1 week buddied even newer hires. Worked great #lrnchat
5:09 pm mellissalast: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How does your organization use coaching and/or mentoring? Is it working? #lrnchat
5:09 pm ChristyATucker: Q2) In the past, coaching/mentoring has always started out with great plans, then fizzled. Just going thru motions. #lrnchat
5:09 pm eksploratore: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How does your organization use coaching and/or mentoring? Is it working? #lrnchat
5:09 pm lmccune: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How does your organization use coaching and/or mentoring? Is it working? #lrnchat
5:09 pm simbeckhampson: As my organisation consists of one, I sometimes find it difficult to mentor and coach myself at the same time… #lrnchat
5:10 pm c4lpt: RT @TriciaRansom: Q2) former company every person in org had a mentor – even the prez. New hires after 1 week buddied even newer hires. Worked great #lrnchat
5:10 pm cybraryman1: Extensive quality hands-on training is essential to be a good mentor/coach #lrnchat
5:10 pm torriedunlap: Q2- For us coaching is "you know that thing you learned in training? let's try it now." some modeling and some cheerleading too. #lrnchat
5:10 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) It was inherent to org. Everyone knew and expected it. Rules/respons. very clear. Participation in perf. review #lrnchat
5:10 pm VijeeshShankar: Q1) Mentoring and Coaching are not synonyms. Mentors tell what to do, coaching helps how to do #lrnchat
5:10 pm mrch0mp3rs: BAM! RT @Dave_Ferguson: Anointed mentor: Calling me a mentor doesn't make me one; writing w quill doesn't make me Shakespeare #lrnchat
5:10 pm StephanieDaul: I don't think we understand the difference in our organization #lrnchat
5:10 pm simbeckhampson: Having said that, it seems to be working – networks help mentor and coach all at the same time < rich source of variable support #lrnchat
5:10 pm VijeeshShankar: Q1) Coaching applies for a short term goal. Mentoring goes long time #lrnchat
5:10 pm Dave_Ferguson: Once heard @arossett talk about need to ID potential mentors, help them build skill in mentoring. #lrnchat
5:11 pm LandDDave: Q2) I know that if I leave my org, the coaching concept leaves with me. It's not sustainable… yet! #lrnchat
5:11 pm mojotillett: Q1) sometimes student needs one vs other willing or motivated student will display talagraph as Bruce Lee would say what they need #lrnchat
5:11 pm sifowler: Q2) the Q helps me reframe Q1 … I think we have many informal mentoring relationships, but only execs get external 'coaches' #lrnchat
5:11 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) For mentoring/coaching to work, learning must be inherent to organization. #in #lrnchat
5:11 pm StephanieDaul: Most people I know in our organization go outside to find mentors #lrnchat
5:11 pm InSyncEU: Coaching – Using a person?s abilities to achieve specific, immediate goals, Mentoring – Passing on wisdom, career & prof advice #lrnchat
5:11 pm eksploratore: coaching and mentoring works through work activities – tends to fail if a separated 'development' activity #lrnchat
5:11 pm mrch0mp3rs: There are a lot of orgs in that boat RT @StephanieDaul: I don't think we understand the difference in our organization #lrnchat
5:12 pm kelticray: Q2 #lrnchat we have none (and we are a training company)
5:12 pm MichelleLavoie: Q2 So where does training/learning fit into the coaching and mentoring discussion? #lrnchat
5:12 pm VijeeshShankar: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How does your organization use coaching and/or mentoring? Is it working? #lrnchat
5:12 pm petersonandrew: Q2) mentoring and coaching is often a line item on the budget that's robbed to pay for "important things" #lrnchat
5:12 pm mellissalast: Q2) Field: Weekly coaching on sales perf, monthly meetings where coach attempts to be mentor. GAP ALERT! #lrnchat
5:12 pm LandDDave: Us too – what does that say about the org? RT @StephanieDaul: Most people I know in our organization go outside to find mentors #lrnchat
5:12 pm StephanieDaul: RT agree @sifowler: I think we have many informal mentoring relationships, but only execs get external coaches #lrnchat
5:12 pm mojotillett: Q3) so as ID's do we coach coaches or mentor mentors? #lrnchat
5:12 pm simbeckhampson: @MichelleLavoie Good question… #lrnchat
5:12 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) Openness to feedback/change/growth must be inherent in the organization. #lrnchat
5:12 pm odguru: @ChristyATucker Have seen alot of fizzle.On-line community mgmt helps programs stay alive.Pulsechecking key 2 pre-empt flagging NRG #lrnchat
5:13 pm LandDDave: We drive coaching at my org RT @MichelleLavoie: Q2 So where does training/learning fit into the coaching and mentoring discussion? #lrnchat
5:13 pm mellissalast: Q2) Office: Bi-wkly coaching, beginning attempts of mentoring across org. #lrnchat
5:13 pm mrch0mp3rs: A lot of us in this chat doing the same thing RT @StephanieDaul: Most people I know in our organization go outside to find mentors #lrnchat
5:13 pm MichelleLavoie: @LandDDave Outside mentors may be very helpful; none of the political baggage #lrnchat
5:13 pm StephanieDaul: Q2) I think we have a lot of people who are seeking mentors but don't know where to go #lrnchat
5:13 pm eksploratore: the power of #lrnchat – i just lost a follower!
5:13 pm TriciaRansom: @MichelleLavoie Think u can't have coaching/mentoring without being focused on learning. Teach folks to learn… #lrnchat
5:13 pm StephanieDaul: We are just now address what a coach is #lrnchat
5:14 pm mrch0mp3rs: @eksploratore You'll gain more. #lrnchat
5:14 pm odguru: @MichelleLavoie In a few cases have seen open mentoring program (u pick mentor) be part of an intro to supporting informal learning #lrnchat
5:14 pm torriedunlap: RT @MichelleLavoie: Q2 So where does training/learning fit? #lrnchat we use coaching as follow-up and thru to formal training
5:14 pm TriciaRansom: @MichelleLavoie …teach folks to learn and they'll coach/mentor. #lrnchat
5:14 pm c4lpt: Q2 I've found it works well with senior people if mentors come from outside the business itself #lrnchat
5:14 pm ChristyATucker: @odguru We are now working on creating online community in Moodle for coaching so it won't fizzle this year. #lrnchat
5:14 pm simbeckhampson: Everyone has a transferable commodity-knowledge. Sharing your unique expertise & making intros for someone creates a lasting legacy #lrnchat
5:14 pm MichelleLavoie: Mentors are all around us; everyone has different expertise. It's not about title or role. #lrnchat
5:14 pm VijeeshShankar: Q2) Current – Yet to define parameters. Previous every employee had a mentor/councellor #lrnchat
5:14 pm kelticray: Q2 #lrnchat Ok, I take that back-we have informal coaching for sales, and use mentoring to help new sales get up to speed. This works well.
5:15 pm sifowler: @StephanieDaul re outside mentors … how did they find/choose them? #lrnchat
5:15 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) based on comments sounds like clearly defined roles/rules/parameters/descriptions essential for successful programs #lrnchat
5:15 pm odguru: Interesting, most co's start wanting to transfer technical knowledge but mentoring convo ends up being ab getting broad advice #lrnchat
5:16 pm TriciaRansom: RT @MichelleLavoie: Q2 So where does training/learning fit into the coaching and mentoring discussion? #lrnchat
5:16 pm Dave_Ferguson: @c4lpt "From outside" also a GE rationale for moving high-potential folks fr one biz to another w/in huge conglom: new experiences #lrnchat
5:16 pm sifowler: Q2) we also use experienced facilitators to 'coach' new (to us) facilitators #lrnchat
5:16 pm StephanieDaul: @sifowler It depends, sometime in other organization they belong to..Toastmaster or communities #lrnchat
5:16 pm InSyncEU: Coaching – i believe that often it is seen as being remedial, more to fix a problem, than to develop individuals potential #lrnchat
5:17 pm eksploratore: sifowler @StephanieDaul re outside mentors … how did they find/choose them? #lrnchat – serendipity assisted by your personal lrning n'wrk?
5:17 pm MichelleLavoie: @sifowler "Outside" could mean outside workgroup, dept., organization or outside the company. #lrnchat
5:17 pm Dave_Ferguson: @MichelleLavoie Honestly, I think "training" label would be kiss-of-death for most mentoring programs above lowest level. #lrnchat
5:17 pm StephanieDaul: @sifowler Good topic to follow up on. Have some type of resouces they could contribute to. #lrnchat
5:17 pm z_rose: can someone retweet Q2 please? I missed it😦 #lrnchat
5:17 pm mrch0mp3rs: @sifowler @StephanieDaul Sometimes the mentors find you. A mentor is usually looking for an apprentice. #lrnchat
5:18 pm globalleader20: RT @c4lpt: Q2 I've found it works well with senior people if mentors come from outside the business itself #lrnchat
5:18 pm eksploratore: @mrch0mp3rs @eksploratore You'll gain more. #lrnchat – its back up so must be a quality follow!
5:18 pm simbeckhampson: @eksploratore use @unfollowr – then you get to see who unfollows… #lrnchat
5:18 pm tonya_simmons: Q2) mentoring coaching isn't really defined for us, but we're a small co., so it happens every day in little ways #lrnchat
5:18 pm MichelleLavoie: @mrch0mp3rs The key to succession planning! Have folks who find and mentor their own successors! #lrnchat
5:18 pm LandDDave: Very 'Star Wars' of you… RT @mrch0mp3rs: Sometimes the mentors find you. A mentor is usually looking for an apprentice. #lrnchat
5:18 pm Dave_Ferguson: Real estate firm found it needed to compensate mentors for time away from sales activity that made them successful. #lrnchat
5:18 pm StephanieDaul: @mrch0mp3rs True my business mentor found me and brought me into his team. #lrnchat
5:18 pm kelticray: RT @TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How does your organization use coaching and/or mentoring? Is it working? #lrnchat
5:18 pm JffZllr: Mentors should be someone other than your boss… neutral 3rd party #lrnchat
5:19 pm mrch0mp3rs: @MichelleLavoie That's a practice I engage in CONSTANTLY. #lrnchat
5:19 pm ranellem: Q2) Training has no place in coaching or mentoring. It's all about the learning. #lrnchat
5:19 pm ranellem: Q2) Training is teaching a technical skill and that's not coaching or mentoring. #lrnchat
5:19 pm Dave_Ferguson: @simbeckhampson I usually have no idea why I'm followed; don't want any idea of why unfollowed. #lrnchat
5:19 pm mrch0mp3rs: @LandDDave I don't have the tattoo of the Rebel Alliance symbol on my shoulder for nothing🙂 #lrnchat
5:20 pm StephanieDaul: @JffZllr depends on the boss and your relationship, but a mentor can last longer than a boss. #lrnchat
5:20 pm MichelleLavoie: @ranellem Training isn't just about tech skills, though, is it? #lrnchat
5:20 pm EFTodd: RT @TriciaRansom: RT @MichelleLavoie: Q2 So where does training/learning fit into the coaching and mentoring discussion? #lrnchat
5:20 pm odguru: Mentor match critically important 4 knowledge transfer – similarity in certain elements key. Lots of evidence to support… #lrnchat
5:20 pm VijeeshShankar: @z_rose Q2) How does your organization use coaching and/or mentoring? Is it working? #lrnchat #lrnchat
5:20 pm simbeckhampson: @mrch0mp3rs < Obi-Wan Kenobi #lrnchat
5:20 pm c4lpt: People should follow and unfollow people as they want; it's like going in and out of sessions at conferences #lrnchat
5:20 pm VijeeshShankar: Q2) Mentoring works when the mentor is more experienced and is a good leader #lrnchat
5:21 pm sifowler: @mrch0mp3rs if you're found by a mentor, they only really become one if you let them, right? I guess ditto for coahcing. #lrnchat
5:21 pm odguru: RT @simbeckhampson: @mrch0mp3rs < Obi-Wan Kenobi << LOL – a lot of job-shadowing in the Jedi mentoring program #lrnchat
5:21 pm LandDDave: I knew there was a reason I like you🙂 RT @mrch0mp3rs:I dont have the tattoo of the Rebel Alliance symbol on my shoulder 4 nothing #lrnchat
5:21 pm z_rose: I don't think my org has any formal mentoring or coaching… if they do they're doing a good job of keeping is secret! #lrnchat
5:21 pm simbeckhampson: @Dave_Ferguson Sometimes it leads to interesting discovries – dont always walk the path Luke… #lrnchat
5:21 pm Dave_Ferguson: Re trng/lrning: mentoring, I think, way on the lrning end, often not seen as primarily learning but as real-time development. #lrnchat
5:22 pm mellissalast: @ranellem You missed a good #lrnchat training vs. learning.
5:22 pm simbeckhampson: @odguru LOL Feel the force (and do it anyway) #lrnchat
5:22 pm bschlenker: Formalized coaching/mentoring does not work – unless both parties agree to the formalization and adhere to the rules #lrnchat
5:22 pm VijeeshShankar: Q2) Mentoring works best when the mentor is not your peer, lead, PM, etc #lrnchat
5:22 pm bgilormini: RT @c4lpt: People should follow and unfollow people as they want; it's like going in and out of sessions at conferences #lrnchat
5:22 pm kelticray: @JffZllr: Mentors should be someone other than your boss… neutral 3rd party #lrnchat I agree–mayb this y @c4lpt uses outside people
5:22 pm 1ernesto1: RT @c4lpt: People should follow and unfollow people as they want; it's like going in and out of sessions at conferences #lrnchat
5:22 pm ranellem: @MichelleLavoie I see training as FlapA into SlotB. Knowing when and why to do that is learning. #lrnchat
5:22 pm Dave_Ferguson: @simbeckhampson I'm not going to chase 'em down and ask why. Also unlikely to say why myself. #lrnchat
5:22 pm odguru: RT @Dave_Ferguson: mentoring way on the lrning end, often not seen as primarily learning but as real-time development.<Full Agreemt #lrnchat
5:22 pm lmccune: Which has longer lasting effects, mentoring/coaching? #lrnchat
5:22 pm analaurette: RT @1ernesto1: RT @c4lpt: People should follow and unfollow people as they want; it's like going in and out of sessions at conferences #lrnchat
5:23 pm ranellem: @mellissalast Sorry I missed the training vs. learning chat. #lrnchat
5:23 pm z_rose: Q2 Actually I feel more confident asking people outside my org for mentor type advice (thanks Dad!😉 ) you get fresh eyes that way #lrnchat
5:23 pm TriciaRansom: Trng/lrng: I think training comes to play in teaching folks to learn. Coaching/mentoring just another avenue for learning. #lrnchat
5:23 pm eksploratore: c4lpt People should follow and unfollow people as they want; #lrnchat – too true, I just liked the timing that's all
5:23 pm petersonandrew: Q2) i think mentors do more with invoking curiosity #lrnchat
5:23 pm mellissalast: @ranellem Check out the #lrnchat blog http://bit.ly/11Am3
5:24 pm mrch0mp3rs: Formal, imposed "communities of practice" don't either. Coincidence? RT @bschlenker: Formalized coaching/mentoring does not work #lrnchat
5:24 pm torriedunlap: @sifowler: @mrch0mp3rs Coachees must be willing to be coached. Maybe you can mentor stealthily though. #lrnchat
5:24 pm odguru: @simbeckhampson Hey oh Ning Jedi – how does that platform play into this convo? #lrnchat
5:24 pm MichelleLavoie: @lmccune Longer lasting effects from mentoring/coaching? Each can produce long lasting effects #lrnchat
5:24 pm ChristyATucker: Sorry to have to leave early, but gotta go now. Thanks for some interesting thoughts! #lrnchat
5:24 pm Rsuominen: Q2) Difference btw coaching and mentoring? Sports coach vs. wise old friend? #lrnchat
5:24 pm VijeeshShankar: @lmccune mentoring lasts long. Coach for a particular goal/task #lrnchat
5:24 pm sifowler: totally depends on attitude, will, ownership RT @lmccune: Which has longer lasting effects, mentoring/coaching? #lrnchat
5:24 pm StephanieDaul: RT @petersonandrew: Q2) i think mentors do more with invoking curiosity. Does curiosity come first than the learning? #lrnchat
5:25 pm mojotillett: Sometimes as a mentor we must enable the student to succeed or fail. Not true for a coach? failure can be a learning experience #lrnchat
5:25 pm odguru: @ChristyATucker until next time! #lrnchat
5:25 pm VijeeshShankar: True! RT @Rsuominen: Q2) Difference btw coaching and mentoring? Sports coach vs. wise old friend? #lrnchat
5:25 pm mrch0mp3rs: @torriedunlap I actually think the reverse is true. You can coach by stealth. Mentoring… the relationship and roles are defined #lrnchat
5:25 pm JffZllr: 2) Also think these are two different skills sets… Not everyone can be a 'Yoda' #lrnchat
5:25 pm mrch0mp3rs: @torriedunlap Totally agree though.. to really coach, you need to be able to be coached. #lrnchat
5:25 pm mellissalast: RT @petersonandrew: Q2) i think mentors do more with invoking curiosity #lrnchat
5:25 pm petersonandrew: More often than not, I ask why first, than I learn something. #lrnchat
5:26 pm simbeckhampson: http://twitpic.com/19cz6k – @mrch0mp3rs < Had a visual moment… #lrnchat
5:26 pm c4lpt: @kelticray I don't use mentors, I am an outside mentor for a number of learning & development managers #lrnchat
5:26 pm Dave_Ferguson: @StephanieDaul "Does curiosity come first?" Sometimes. Sometimes boredom. Sometimes greed. Lots of doors let learning in. #lrnchat
5:26 pm MichelleLavoie: RT @mojotillett: As a mentor we enable the student to succeed or fail. Not true for a coach? failure can be a learning experience #lrnchat
5:26 pm LandDDave: So True! RT @mojotillett: failure can be a learning experience #lrnchat
5:26 pm InSyncEU: RT @Rsuominen: Q2) Difference btw coaching and mentoring? Sports coach vs. wise old friend? #lrnchat Good way of putting it…
5:26 pm JudithELS: Sorry but I have to go now. It's been great talking with you all – thanks very much. See you next week. #lrnchat
5:26 pm z_rose: RT @Dave_Ferguson "Does curiosity come first?" Sometimes. Sometimes boredom. Sometimes greed. Lots of doors let learning in. #lrnchat
5:26 pm odguru: RT @Dave_Ferguson: "Does curiosity come first?" Sometimes. Sometimes boredom. Sometimes greed. Lots of doors let learning in. #lrnchat
5:27 pm mellissalast: @Dave_Ferguson As ex-sales per in sale org, TOTALLY get it and live it every day. #lrnchat
5:27 pm LandDDave: That's awesome. RT @simbeckhampson: http://twitpic.com/19cz6k – @mrch0mp3rs < Had a visual moment… #lrnchat
5:27 pm sifowler: RT @mrch0mp3rs Formal, imposed CommunitiesofPractice dont either.Coincidence?@bschlenker Formalized coaching/mentoring doesnt work #lrnchat
5:27 pm Dave_Ferguson: People learned how to make and sell collateralized debt obligations. Prob not from love of learning. #lrnchat
5:28 pm torriedunlap: @mrch0mp3rs Interesting! I was thinking I could provide connections and motivation w/o them knowing I was their formal "mentor" #lrnchat
5:28 pm StephanieDaul: To me coaches don't let you lose (fail). Mentors allow failure if learning can come from it. #lrnchat
5:28 pm eksploratore: I don't want to be mentored, but *do* want to discuss issues with a trusted interlocutor. Formality breaks the relationship #lrnchat
5:28 pm elearning: How not to use social media at work http://twitpic.com/19czay #lrnchat @articulatebrian
5:28 pm kelticray: @c4lpt Sorry, wasn't implying you use them, but more the reason for your suggestion that senior ppl wrk well with outside mentors #lrnchat
5:28 pm torriedunlap: @mrch0mp3rs And I have tried to coach ppl who did not want coaching- and that really doesn't work!🙂 #lrnchat
5:28 pm sifowler: RT @Dave_Ferguson: "Does curiosity come first?" Sometimes. Sometimes boredom. Sometimes greed. Lots of doors let learning in. #lrnchat
5:28 pm lmccune: @sifowler attitude, will, ownership. I agree! Have had great coaches AND mentors. Use it all years later but by choice! #lrnchat
5:29 pm sangeetathakral: #lrnchat Couching is more structured viz-a-viz mentoring
5:29 pm Dave_Ferguson: Re formalized/imposed: maybe so. Astonishing so many of us survived that, though. Or learned to write in traditional classroom. #lrnchat
5:29 pm onEnterFrame: funny RT @elearning: How not to use social media at work http://twitpic.com/19czay #lrnchat @articulatebrian
5:29 pm mrch0mp3rs: @torriedunlap I'm just giving my opinion. I could totally have this wrong. #lrnchat
5:29 pm odguru: @bschlenker Formalized coaching/mentoring doesnt work< & yet I know ++ ppl who say "mentoring program"s why they flouirshed/stayed. #lrnchat
5:29 pm InSyncEU: RT @mojotillett: failure can be a learning experience #lrnchat Exactly – Grandfather always said – It's ok to make mistake – don't repeat it
5:30 pm MichelleLavoie: @Dave_Ferguson Eleven years of French class, and can't write or speak a word of French😦 #lrnchat
5:30 pm LandDDave: Some typos are pretty funny🙂 RT @sangeetathakral: #lrnchat Couching is more structured viz-a-viz mentoring #lrnchat
5:30 pm Rsuominen: RT @odguru Mentor match critically important 4 knowledge transfer. #lrnchat
5:30 pm torriedunlap: RT @LandDDave: So True! RT @mojotillett: failure can be a learning experience #lrnchat we can learn more from our mistakes than successes!
5:31 pm c4lpt: @kelticray No problem! Just clearing that point up #lrnchat
5:31 pm sparkeo: LOL! RT @elearning: How not to use social media at work http://twitpic.com/19czay #lrnchat @articulatebrian
5:31 pm sifowler: but formalized CoP/coaching doesn't work only if you don't trust the people who decided (even if for you) you needed it #lrnchat
5:31 pm Dave_Ferguson: @MichelleLavoie Second Life (en français) et mes collègues francophones sur Twitter. #lrnchat
5:32 pm eksploratore: needing to go now – its been interesting and thought provoking and you can't ask for more than that. Thanks #lrnchat
5:32 pm c4lpt: How many of you on #lrnchat have a mentor or are a mentor?
5:32 pm MichelleLavoie: @Dave_Ferguson LOL! #lrnchat
5:32 pm neillasher: Sorry so late hello #lrnchat
5:32 pm mrch0mp3rs: @torriedunlap maybe it's a style thing, or a matching personalities thing… there's lots of moving parts. #lrnchat
5:32 pm torriedunlap: @mrch0mp3rs I love hearing other opinions! Helps me learn and question my assumptions. #lrnchat
5:32 pm odguru: @sifowler task focused CoPs can and do work #lrnchat
5:32 pm MichelleLavoie: I have informal, untitled mentors. People who know more than I do about things I'm interested in. I learn from them. #lrnchat
5:32 pm ranellem: Thanks for the conversations. Time to have lunch in Lincoln, Nebraska. Until next time… #lrnchat
5:32 pm TriciaRansom: @MichelleLavoie I had 15 years and lost all my French…but was on project in Italy – after 1 month could understand everything! #lrnchat
5:33 pm Dave_Ferguson: @odguru Tend to agree re match/compatblty w/ mentor — but half an oaf is better than none. #lrnchat
5:33 pm VijeeshShankar: @c4lpt used to have a mentor, 5 years back.. #lrnchat
5:33 pm LandDDave: I don't have one myself😦 but am one. RT @c4lpt: How many of you on #lrnchat have a mentor or are a mentor? #lrnchat
5:33 pm TriciaRansom: @c4lpt Been both mentor and mentee in both good & bad relationships/attempts #lrnchat
5:34 pm odguru: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @odguru Tend to agree re match/compatblty w/ mentor — but half an oaf is better than none. HA! #lrnchat
5:34 pm mellissalast: @c4lpt I have a mentor. She was my boss nearly 10 years ago. We keep in touch informally. #lrnchat
5:34 pm JffZllr: no on both…RT @c4lpt: How many of you on #lrnchat have a mentor or are a mentor?
5:34 pm StephanieDaul: Have a few for different reasons. #lrnchat
5:34 pm torriedunlap: @c4lpt I have several trusted mentors, and I hope that I am considered a mentor to a few people too. #lrnchat
5:34 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @Dave_Ferguson: … Calling me a mentor doesn't make me one; writing w quill doesn't make me Shakespeare #lrnchat
5:34 pm mellissalast: RT @torriedunlap: @mrch0mp3rs I love hearing other opinions! Helps me learn and question my assumptions. #lrnchat
5:35 pm sifowler: Man, I'm still hungry. Starving. Where's my mentor to help me give myself permission to leave? #lrnchat
5:35 pm neillasher: I am a mentor to many and use many more as my mentor, you can never know enough #lrnchat
5:35 pm StephanieDaul: People who I look to as mentors but not formally and I'm not sure they know I see them in that way. #lrnchat
5:35 pm kelticray: RT @LandDDave: Some typos are pretty funny #lrnchat Couching is more structured #lrnchat | Yes,it does have more of a frame🙂
5:35 pm lmccune: @c4lpt Mentor who coaches when needed. Love my mentors and coaches! #lrnchat
5:35 pm MichelleLavoie: @sifowler Mentee, feed thyself! #lrnchat
5:35 pm tonya_simmons: @c4lpt currently don't have one, have BEEN (a while ago) one to a middle school student & often felt I had no idea what I was doing #lrnchat
5:35 pm JffZllr: Isn't 'informal mentoring' the same as a CoP? Doesn't mentoring need specific goals? (however informal they are?) #lrnchat
5:35 pm mrch0mp3rs: RT: @lrnchat: Q3) Have you used virtual mentoring? Tips/tricks to share? #lrnchat
5:36 pm torriedunlap: RT @neillasher: I am a mentor to many and use many more as my mentor, you can never know enough #lrnchat Here! Here!
5:36 pm MichelleLavoie: Q3 Virtual mentoring? Is that mentoring via phone, video….across distances? #lrnchat
5:37 pm sifowler: yes, great; 'purpose/task' changes approaches to CoPs/coaching/mentoring RT @odguru: task focused CoPs can and do work #lrnchat
5:37 pm petersonandrew: Q3) does virtual mentoring include participating in #lrnchat ????
5:37 pm neillasher: my best funny typo is writing curse instead of course #lrnchat
5:37 pm sifowler: @MichelleLavoie🙂 but will everyone still love me afterwards? #lrnchat
5:37 pm kelticray: RT @odguru: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @odguru Tend to agree re match/compatblty w/ mentor–but half an oaf is better than none #lrnchat | really?
5:37 pm simbeckhampson: http://twitpic.com/19d1jh – @mrch0mp3rs < It was a strong visual… #lrnchat
5:37 pm LandDDave: I had an employee that was reassigned and she asked if I could continue being her mentor. That's how I found out I was a mentor. #lrnchat
5:37 pm VijeeshShankar: RT @lrnchat: Q3) Have you used virtual mentoring? Tips/tricks to share? #lrnchat
5:38 pm StephanieDaul: RT @petersonandrew: Q3) does virtual mentoring include participating in #lrnchat ???? or reading what they write? #lrnchat
5:38 pm InSyncEU: RT @neillasher: I am a mentor to many and use many more as my mentor, you can never know enough #lrnchat Hi Neil – very much agree!!
5:38 pm charlesjennings: @torriedunlap RT @LandDDave RT @mojotillett 'failure can be a learning experience' – I've always learnt fastest from failures #lrnchat
5:38 pm kelticray: RT @odguru: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @odguru I'd rather have no mentor than a bad one, especially as it could change how I feel about wrk #lrnchat
5:38 pm AliyCia: RT @c4lpt: People should follow and unfollow people as they want; it's like going in and out of sessions at conferences #lrnchat
5:38 pm sifowler: RT @lrnchat Q3) Have you used virtual mentoring? Tips/tricks to share? #lrnchat
5:39 pm Dave_Ferguson: @kelticray The 'half an oaf' point was: any program could be better than no program. Like neighborhood public library vs none. #lrnchat
5:39 pm simbeckhampson: @mrch0mp3rs back to topic now boss, sorry😉 #lrnchat
5:39 pm StephanieDaul: Anyone ever feel like a mentor to their "mentor"? #lrnchat
5:39 pm c4lpt: RT @MichelleLavoie: Q3 Virtual mentoring? Is that mentoring via phone, video….across distances? #lrnchat
5:39 pm LandDDave: Q3) I sometimes have text conversations with the person I mentor – I guess that's virtual. #lrnchat
5:39 pm c4lpt: @MichelleLavoie – any so long as y're not there in person #lrnchat
5:39 pm mrch0mp3rs: @petersonandrew I think there are a lot of role models you can engage with in #lrnchat, but the relationships forged for mentors
5:40 pm sifowler: nice! RT @LandDDave employee was reassigned & she asked if I could continue being her mentor. Thats how I found out I was a mentor. #lrnchat
5:40 pm bschlenker: @odguru I guess that's my point – Those that NEED/enjoy mentoring get lots from it #lrnchat
5:40 pm petersonandrew: @StephanieDaul there are individuals that i have topical mentor relationships with. aka, they know X, I know Y and we talk #lrnchat
5:40 pm mrch0mp3rs: @simbeckhampson No, it's cool. Just scary how you got that so easily matched with my visage. #lrnchat
5:41 pm sangeetathakral: oopss….did i say couching..what i meant to say was "Coching is more structured viz-a-viz mentoring #lrnchat
5:41 pm Dave_Ferguson: @StephanieDaul Mentoring the mentor: could be good; sign of true collaboration rather than Wise One and grasshopper. #lrnchat
5:41 pm mellissalast: RT @DLHansby: Q3 Part of pilot 6 mth long virtual mentoring. Set pers & pro objectives between 1st & 2nd meet #lrnchat
5:41 pm sifowler: Q3) I almost mentored someone once. Is that the same as virtual mentoring? #lrnchat
5:41 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) I use different folks as mentors even if they don't know it and via all communication types. I want to learn from them #lrnchat
5:41 pm MichelleLavoie: Time for me to go. See you next week! #lrnchat
5:41 pm mellissalast: @DLHansby Typo on #lrnchat not #l4nchat
5:42 pm bschlenker: @odguru but not everyone enjoys/thrives in the formalized programs within big corps – including me #lrnchat
5:42 pm odguru: Q3 Run v-mentoring pgms… Even ONE live mtg makes a diff. Video con/skype big diff… #lrnchat
5:42 pm VijeeshShankar: A typo again🙂 RT @sangeetathakral: .what i meant to say was "Coching is more structured viz-a-viz mentoring #lrnchat
5:42 pm typogami: RT @mellissalast @DLHansby Typo on #lrnchat not #l4nchat is that not good leadership…by example? #lrnchat
5:46 pm sifowler: cf. role model? implies relational distance, perhaps RT @mrch0mp3rs: What about “Influencing” as opposed to coaching or mentoring? #lrnchat
5:46 pm c4lpt: RT @LandDDave We shouldn’t have a ‘Virtual Mentoring’ label. It should be only ‘Mentoring’ #lrnchat <<Next it'll be "blended mentoring"🙂
5:46 pm mrch0mp3rs: @mojotillett Well, Role Models might do what they do. They Influence others when they're aware they're doing it. #lrnchat
5:46 pm Dave_Ferguson: RT @LandDDave: We shouldnt have Virtual Mentoring label. Should be only Mentoring, may have virtual component. // Yes! No e- ! #lrnchat
5:47 pm kelticray: Thanks everyone! must head to meeting. Really enjoyed the knowledge #lrnchat
5:47 pm sleveo: RT @bschlenker: @odguru I guess that's my point – Those that NEED/enjoy mentoring get lots from it #lrnchat Yes, I need it.
5:47 pm Dave_Ferguson: @c4lpt No, blended mentoring involves cyborgs. Or centaurs, like Chiron. #lrnchat
5:47 pm neillasher: we have to be careful with these labels, look what happened to eLearning instead of just learning #lrnchat
5:48 pm mellissalast: RT @c4lpt: RT @LandDDave We shouldn't have a 'Virtual Mentoring' label. It should be only 'Mentoring' #lrnchat <<Next it'll be "blended mentoring"🙂
5:48 pm LandDDave: Followed by Blended e-Mentoring Apps (available on iPads)! RT @c4lpt: Next itll be "blended mentoring"🙂 #lrnchat
5:48 pm sifowler: then we'll have formalizing informal blended mentoring RT @c4lpt: RT @LandDDave Virtual/blended Mentoring #lrnchat #lrnchat
5:48 pm tonya_simmons: @c4lpt RT Next it'll be "blended mentoring// or Mentoring 2.0🙂 #lrnchat
5:48 pm mrch0mp3rs: You put it into the right words, @sifowler: Role Models v. Influencers v. Coaches vs. Mentors imply relational distance. #lrnchat
5:49 pm StephanieDaul: @mojotillett Are their mentors that are really role model because they don't share their knowledge? #lrnchat
5:49 pm mrch0mp3rs: @Dave_Ferguson Dude, I'd be pretty stoked to be mentored by the Chiron. #lrnchat
5:49 pm odguru: RT @mrch0mp3rs: @Dave_Ferguson Dude, Id be pretty stoked to be mentored by the Chiron. #lrnchat
5:49 pm sifowler: which means it's time for lunch! and a beer! #lrnchat
5:49 pm VijeeshShankar: RT @c4lpt: RT @LandDDave We shouldn't have a 'Virtual Mentoring' label. It should be only 'Mentoring' #lrnchat <<Next it'll be "blended mentoring"🙂
5:50 pm jsuzcampos: I missed lunchtime #lrnchat again! Teaching on Thursdays at noon is really dragging me down ….
5:50 pm c4lpt: RT @tonya_simmons @c4lpt RT Next it'll be "blended mentoring// or Mentoring 2.0🙂 #lrnchat <Don't even go there🙂
5:50 pm Dave_Ferguson: Chiron taught medicine to Aesculpius, a bit of sports to Achilles. #lrnchat
5:51 pm VijeeshShankar: Most of them missing lunch time out there! anybody missing dinner? #lrnchat
5:51 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links & requests (or shameless plugs) welcome, too. #lrnchat
5:51 pm tonya_simmons: but whether it's learning or mentoring, it's really about making the most of the tools we have, which today includes virtual #lrnchat
5:52 pm VijeeshShankar: Mentoring 2.0 sounds interesting🙂 #lrnchat
5:52 pm sifowler: If anyone tries to blend my mentoring I'm going to throw in bananas & strawberries. #lrnchat
5:52 pm InSyncEU: If we did Virtual mentoring online – bet you someone would eventually call it a webinar! #lrnchat
5:52 pm VenessaMiemis: #lrnchat please read this post & comments, and comment with your view and perspective. help change the world. http://bit.ly/bw2Z0P
5:53 pm neillasher: time for lunch? Us brits are taking tea right now… #lrnchat
5:53 pm odguru: Christy Canada – doing the mentoring thing (v & otherwise) w/ everyone from unwed moms to engineers… love to hear from you! #lrnchat
5:53 pm StephanieDaul: RT @InSyncEU: If we did Virtual mentoring online – bet you someone would eventually call it a webinar! why not everything else is! #lrnchat
5:53 pm LandDDave: That's the label! Smoothie Mentoring! RT @sifowler: anyone tries to blend my mentoring Im going to throw in bananas & strawberries. #lrnchat
5:53 pm neillasher: RT @sifowler: If anyone tries to blend my mentoring I'm going to throw in bananas & strawberries. #lrnchat lol
5:53 pm Rsuominen: Q3) I see mentoring and expertise sharing as a part of e-teacher's work. #lrnchat
5:53 pm VijeeshShankar: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links & requests (or shameless plugs) welcome, too. #lrnchat
5:54 pm InSyncEU: RT @tonya_simmons: It's really about making the most of the tools we have, which today includes virtual #lrnchat Very much – all methods
5:54 pm neillasher: RT @LandDDave: That's the label! Smoothie Mentoring! #lrnchat i vote for this, how smooth
5:54 pm TriciaRansom: Tricia in Chicago has re-titled herself as Supreme Ruler! Thanks all for a great time #lrnchat
5:54 pm JffZllr: Jeff Zoller, Learning Consultant, Columbus OH #lrnchat
5:55 pm StephanieDaul: Stephanie – Chicago, ID, Sorry I was late today. See some of you at #LS2010 next week in Orlando! #lrnchat
5:55 pm Dave_Ferguson: Dave, Wash DC, daveswhiteboard.com, workplace learning, multiple tangents, charrette pélagique. #lrnchat
5:55 pm tonya_simmons: Tonya Goth Simmons, production designer, Phasient Learning Technologies, Ames, IA http://bit.ly/qSxMf #lrnchat
5:55 pm LandDDave: David Kelly, Training Director in title, Lifelong Learner in role, for a NYC Bank. and I'm suddenly craving a smoothie… #lrnchat
5:56 pm mrch0mp3rs: <- Aaron Silvers, Chicago, IL. Have fun at #LS10 if you're going there. http://www.aaronsilvers.com/2009/09/on-mentoring/ #lrnchat
5:56 pm neillasher: I would like to re brand as a smooth learner #lrnchat
5:57 pm c4lpt: Jane Hart – going to try smoothie mentoring at home now – nr Bath, England #lrnchat
5:57 pm InSyncEU: David Smith, Leeds Yorkshire – Helping Trainers/Designers/Companies to be more effective in the live online classroom #lrnchat
5:57 pm simbeckhampson: http://twitpic.com/19d5gl – @mrch0mp3rs < Couldn't help myself… #lrnchat (been no use to man the beast this evening…)
5:57 pm neillasher: Neil Lasher London, smooth mentor for hire, great #lrnchat
5:57 pm InSyncEU: RT @neillasher: I would like to re brand as a smooth learner #lrnchat You have always been a smooth learner :-}
5:57 pm LandDDave: Sure – we can share the patent! RT @neillasher: I would like to re brand as a smooth learner #lrnchat
5:58 pm sifowler: Qwrap)Simon "Hungry" Fowler, R&D Forum Corp. Forum POV (.pdf) on learning sustainment: http://bit.ly/dofFPL Letmeknowwhatuthink. #lrnchat
5:58 pm mrch0mp3rs: <- Aaron Silvers, Smooth Criminal #lrnchat
5:58 pm c4lpt: @sifoweler "formalizing informal blended mentoring" – another good one – but isn't that aka "smoothie mentoring"😉 #lrnchat
5:59 pm jazzmann91: RT @VenessaMiemis: #lrnchat please read this post & comments, and comment with your view and perspective. help change the world. http://bit.ly/bw2Z0P
5:59 pm LandDDave: Great… now that song's in my head. ThankYouVeryMuchSir. RT @mrch0mp3rs: <- Aaron Silvers, Smooth Criminal #lrnchat
5:59 pm c4lpt: Sorry @sifoweler should be @sifowler #lrnchat
5:59 pm mojotillett: RT @mrch0mp3rs: <- Aaron Silvers, Chicago, IL. Have fun at #LS10 if you're going there. http://www.aaronsilvers.com/2009/09/on-mentoring/ #lrnchat
6:00 pm mrch0mp3rs: <- Aaron Silvers, Smooth Operator… Smooth… Operator…. #lrnchat
6:00 pm Rsuominen: Riitta Suominen, Tampere, Finland – eTeacher, Course Designer, Writer. It?s been great talking with you, thanks. #lrnchat
6:00 pm lmccune: Laurie McCune, Atlanta. Check out #juicy_ideas and help get the word out. thx! #lrnchat
6:00 pm TriciaRansom: #lrnchat is over, and I promise no more tweets for the rest of the day!
6:00 pm VijeeshShankar: ID w/ 8+ yrs,currnt interst-innovation in learnin,grt 2 b hre aftr long time,waitin 2 wrap&devour chicken milagu curry tht i made:) #lrnchat
6:00 pm InSyncEU: Thanks #lrnchat – another great discussion – see you all next week – BFN!!
6:01 pm sifowler: @c4lpt formalizing informal blended mentoring is 'smoothie mentoring' gone very horribly wrong!🙂 #lrnchat
6:01 pm LandDDave: You're killin me man… I'd prefer to be stuck with Smooth Criminal RT @mrch0mp3rs: <- Aaron Silvers, Smooth Operator #lrnchat
6:02 pm lrnchat: Thank you for joining us on #lrnchat. Pls invite others next week & tell us if you blog about the conversation. http://j.mp/lrnchat
6:02 pm LandDDave: Thanks for another great chat everyone. I look forward to next week. Take Care! #lrnchat
6:03 pm sifowler: Thanks everyone. Although I'm about to faint, and I ignored my mentor's @MichelleLavoie, advice, I'm glad I stayed! #lrnchat
6:03 pm simbeckhampson: @LandDDave Cheers… #lrnchat
6:03 pm bschlenker: A mentor must be genuinely interested in the mentee, and have a stake in the game. Mentee success = mentor success #lrnchat
6:03 pm lrnchat: We'll announce here as soon as the #lrnchat transcript is posted to the website.
6:04 pm gmstoner: RT @bschlenker: A mentor must be genuinely interested in the mentee, and have a stake in the game. Mentee success = mentor success #lrnchat
6:04 pm sifowler: @lrnchat Thanks for running this. This is a great format, great rules, great questions, great people. greatgreatgreat! #lrnchat
6:05 pm simbeckhampson: Will try harder next week…time for a beer! Thanks everyone… #lrnchat

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