Transcript 25-Feb 2010 (late)

8:30:25 pm lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been? Q0 warm up after the rules.
8:30:35 pm reward75: @michelle300 Doing great, hoping to be snowed in tomorrow🙂 #lrnchat
8:31:23 pm jaycross: Lnrchat is starting; watch out for posts about learning. Or join the fun at #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:31:45 pm Dave_Ferguson: But what if I don’t want to wait till after the rules to warm up? #lrnchat
8:31:46 pm arossett: #lrnchat so happy to be here this eve
8:31:49 pm lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1) Introduce yourself. (We do this again at the end). Location? Focus? Fave topics?
8:32:00 pm JaneBozarth: @gminks I didn’t mean that as porn. You must have assumed innuendo. #lrnchat
8:32:07 pm jaycross: Things are great out here on the left coast. #lrnchat
8:32:19 pm Dave_Ferguson: @arossett As happy as I am to see you here. Welcome #lrnchat
8:32:22 pm kristineshaheen: Excited; contract ends tomorrow! Two Adult Learner cert modules completed & pumped to learn and seek opportunities in Learning. #lrnchat
8:32:32 pm lrnchat: 2) [try to] stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 20 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
8:32:41 pm sahana2802: RT @lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1) Introduce yourself. (We do this again at the end). Location? Focus? Fave topics?
8:32:42 pm JaneBozarth: Doctor of Learnin’ Stuff, Positive Deviant, Constructive Heretic, Obsessing about social media at the moment… #lrnchat
8:32:52 pm sahana2802: RT @jaycross: Lnrchat is starting; watch out for posts about learning. Or join the fun at #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:33:02 pm jaycross: Jay Cross, Berkeley, refocusing on what people can do to maximize the return on investment in informal learning. (Lots) #lrnchat
8:33:16 pm JaneBozarth: …b/c final draft of my new book, “Social Media for Trainers”, went to publisher this week Yay #lrnchat
8:33:17 pm everyselearning: Myra Rhodes http://www.everyones.com Online Web Design Training using Dreamweaver CS4 #lrnchat
8:33:17 pm oxala75: Q1) craig wiggins, elearning jockey working for the federal govt outside of Washington DC. #lrnchat
8:33:27 pm billcush: Bill Cushard. Charlotte, NC. Sales, #SCRM Training, and other performance improvement initiatives. #lrnchat
8:33:29 pm lrnchat: 3) When writing, complete thoughts help followers outside chat learn from you. #lrnchat
8:33:33 pm michelle300: Michelle M. Located in Maryland. Learning Solutions Consultant, ESI International. Fave Topics – Learning, Project Management #lrnchat
8:33:35 pm kelly_smith01: Q0) Great re-reading in part Figuring Things Out – Gr8 Wish Ron and Tom were here 2 update with Web 2.o stuff #lrnchat
8:33:36 pm sahana2802: Sahana, Pune, India, Instructional designer and avid learner. #lrnchat
8:33:39 pm jeanfranzblau: Jean here in Los Angeles. Seminar leader specializing in training Administrative Assistants. First timer at lrnchat. #lrnchat
8:33:54 pm sahana2802: RT @JaneBozarth: …b/c final draft of my new book, “Social Media for Trainers”, went to publisher this week Yay #lrnchat
8:33:59 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman, e-Learning Designer and today a really bad voice over artist – Baltimore, MD #lrnchat
8:34:06 pm TerrenceWing: @JeanFranzblau Yeah you made it #lrnchat
8:34:13 pm magdaZINE: Visual Designer – information, instruction, interaction #lrnchat
8:34:34 pm everyselearning: Wohooo! Canada won! (Women’s olympic hockey) Yeah! #lrnchat
8:34:47 pm arossett: #lrnchat hello I am in San Diego and I get all excited about outcomes experience engagement, how we walk our talk
8:35:01 pm JaneBozarth: I am not a woman hockey player, but I had a mammogram today, and by my reckoning that’s about the same thing. #lrnchat
8:35:05 pm lrnchat: 4) Remember to include the #lrnchat in all posts. http://tweetchat.com http://tweetgrid.com & http://twubs.com/lrnchat work well.
8:35:11 pm reward75: Regina Ward, NYC, Knowledge Sharer #lrnchat
8:35:23 pm roninchef: Mason Masteka eLearning Developer in Portland, ME. Open Source advocate, toddler wrangler and retired chef. #lrnchat
8:35:29 pm magdaZINE: Oh yeah. Currently in Portland but moving to Los Angeles in 2 weeks #lrnchat
8:35:35 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith Perfromance Improvement Specialist Texas (have met Bill Brandon) #lrnchat
8:35:49 pm janet_frg: Janet, in southwest Indiana – collaborative learning and other geeky stuff #lrnchat
8:35:54 pm jaycross: Let’s go curlin’ now. Everybody’s learning how. Come on and go curling with me… #lrnchat
8:35:54 pm lrnchat: 5) Periodically RT questions so others outside #lrnchat know what you’re talking about & they can chime in too.
8:36:10 pm Dave_Ferguson: Instructional designer, learning consultant, blogger of many tangents, daveswhiteboard.com, DC area,what have you. #lrnchat
8:36:13 pm everyselearning: @JaneBozarth Yes I know what you mean. They do play rough! Guess it wouldn’t be hockey otherwise #lrnchat
8:36:29 pm spotlearning: Joe Fournier, Lexington KY. Learning junkie…no recovery in sight. Seriously considering the doctor thing. :-O #lrnchat
8:36:32 pm hjarche: Harold Jarche, rebel without a paycheck, in the thriving metropolis of Sackville, NB (pop. 5,000) #lrnchat
8:36:39 pm jaycross: RT @lrnchat: 5) Periodically RT questions so others outside #lrnchat know what you’re talking about & they can chime in too. #lrnchat
8:36:42 pm chrisstjohn: Chris St.John DAU Director-eLearning Techn, author, Conference Manager. “Eruditio Venenum” #lrnchat
8:36:46 pm kristineshaheen: @jeanfranzblau Welcome! #lrnchat
8:36:49 pm lrnchat: 6) On #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm & irony welcome though. Really.
8:37:05 pm JaneBozarth: @spotlearning do it do it do it do the doctor thing. #lrnchat
8:37:13 pm kristineshaheen: @JaneBozarth lol So, this pretty much has to be a “going uphill” day… #lrnchat
8:37:22 pm Dave_Ferguson: @jaycross I like the low media hype about curling. For me, March Madness is just torture. #lrnchat
8:37:26 pm dbolen: Don Bolen PM Learning Strategist, ATL #lrnchat
8:37:52 pm stevenbrent: Day Job: Instructional designer and trainer for Software co., Location: Pennsylvania, Faves:Game design, audiovideo art, Flex dev #lrnchat
8:38:03 pm cellodav: David in Sudbury Ontario – DE coord for small uni #lrnchat
8:38:18 pm jaycross: @chrisstjohn Eruditio Venenum? #lrnchat
8:38:26 pm DanSpira: run for cover! it’s the #lrnchat tweetstream avalanche!
8:38:41 pm everyselearning: @stevenbrent begs the question..so what’s your night job? Sorry, someone had to. #lrnchat
8:38:44 pm JaneBozarth: @kristineshaheen Yes! #lrnchat
8:38:47 pm spotlearning: @JaneBozarth Do I sense a tone of peer pressure in your 140? ‘-) #lrnchat
8:38:49 pm lrnchat: Q0 (our weekly #lrnchat welcome) What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
8:38:52 pm JenniferVMiller: Jennifer V Miller, like irony, sarcasm not so much. Ok with formal AND informal learning. #lrnchat
8:39:15 pm sahana2802: RT @lrnchat: Q0 (our weekly #lrnchat welcome) What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
8:39:27 pm Dave_Ferguson: Atque memento, nulli adsunt Romanorum qui locutionem tuam corrigant. #lrnchat
8:39:33 pm TerrenceWing: Terrence Wing – Los Angeles – Leadership and Management Dev – http://www.LiquidLearn.com #lrnchat
8:39:33 pm jsuzcampos: Q0) Jeannette Campos, zooming in from sourthern NH, where every day is fabulous. #lrnchat
8:39:37 pm lrnchat: Big congrats & thanks2 @mrch0mp3rs @brentschlenker @c4lpt @neillasher @stephaniedaul for launching #lrnchat EU today! http://j.mp/lrnchat
8:39:43 pm Dave_Ferguson: (Always remember, there aren’t any Romans to correct your pronunciation.) #lrnchat
8:39:52 pm sleveo: Q1) Steve LeBlanc, Mountain Home, AR Interests: Learning theory, social learning, life long learning, #CMS. Can’t stay long 2nite #lrnchat
8:39:52 pm johnYSchen: John in Washington DC, Grad Student Instructional Design #lrnchat
8:39:58 pm michelle300: RT @lrnchat: Q0 (our weekly #lrnchat welcome) What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week? #lrnchat
8:40:01 pm JaneBozarth: @spotlearning More like peer-to-peer pressure #lrnchat
8:40:03 pm marciamarcia: Anyone else wish rule 6 applied to more than #lrnchat? RT 6) we aim to play nice. Sarcasm & irony welcome though. Really.
8:40:06 pm britz: Q1) Mark Britz, Syracuse,NY, learning professional, #lrnchat double-dipper! Going to lurk mostly for evening session
8:40:23 pm everyselearning: I learned that the universe really doesn’t want me to purchase a Mac. Long story. I tried. I really tried. #lrnchat
8:40:33 pm jaycross: Learned lots about renovating bathrooms. (I’m converting mine into something Roman.) Esoteric field. #lrnchat
8:40:33 pm JessicaBooth: @JaneBozarth awesome when can we see it? #lrnchat
8:40:38 pm martyblow: Marty Blow in Virginia Beach. I need focus so I will follow the crowd for a while. #lrnchat
8:40:42 pm DanSpira: Dan Spira, Trainer, Instructional Designer and Bon Vivant #lrnchat
8:40:58 pm kelly_smith01: Q0) I used ADDIE, Kirkpatrick & learning/training during an screening interview. #lrnchat
8:41:04 pm Dave_Ferguson: 1/2: Have been having way too much fun learning by going thru “Head First Statistics” http://bit.ly/cZtXey #lrnchat
8:41:12 pm roninchef: Q0 I learned a little more about 3d modeling and that the case of Tennis Elbow I got from cooking for 20 yrs hasn’t gone away. #lrnchat
8:41:13 pm ADDIE_ID: Hi I’m ADDIE #lrnchat
8:41:13 pm Mary_a_Myers: Not in #lrnchat tonight drinking beer instead.
8:41:19 pm reward75: That my favorite teddy which I donated to a mission in Haiti has a new best friend #lrnchat
8:41:24 pm kristineshaheen: This week I learned a lot about Learning Objectives, and I learned that I actually like the rowing machine. #lrnchat
8:41:28 pm Dave_Ferguson: 2/2: Anyone having to dev. training/learning for dry material can profit from that example. #lrnchat
8:41:32 pm cindyhugg: RT @lrnchat: #lrnchat starts again at 8:30pm Eastern tonight. See you there.
8:41:35 pm sahana2802: Q0: Learned that I don’t appreciate working with someone who does not understand the importance of team over individual. #lrnchat
8:41:42 pm Dave_Ferguson: @martyblow Man, if you need focus, is Twitter ever the wrong place… #lrnchat
8:41:42 pm oxala75: @lrnchat so pissed that i couldn’t take time out to witness it today #lrnchat
8:41:43 pm JaneBozarth: @JessicaBooth Sorry see what? #lrnchat
8:41:51 pm kristineshaheen: @Mary_a_Myers Have fun!! #lrnchat
8:41:55 pm billcush: Q0) Today I learned that technical problems will happen on a webinar. Life goes on. #lrnchat
8:41:58 pm stevenbrent: RE Q0: I learned that time management skills are no substitute for a high-functioning brain! #lrnchat
8:41:58 pm jeanfranzblau: I learned that I enjoy doing instructional design and “performing” both the audio and video next week. That’s b/c I’m a ham. #lrnchat
8:42:02 pm spotlearning: Q0) Learned how to convert scanned pages to OCR in Acrobat – very cool for those print portfolio materials from yesteryear #lrnchat
8:42:05 pm TerrenceWing: DRINK RT @kelly_smith01: Q0) I used ADDIE, Kirkpatrick & learning/training during an screening interview. #lrnchat
8:42:07 pm cellodav: Q0 My 5yr daughter is insightful – mom’s away so dad is “the parent” today – maybe a bit of irony in there #lrnchat
8:42:12 pm ajeanne: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @martyblow Man, if you need focus, is Twitter ever the wrong place… #lrnchat
8:42:15 pm oxala75: @Mary_a_Myers well then i’m multitasking #lrnchat
8:42:22 pm JaneBozarth: Professional! RT @kelly_smith01: Q0) I used ADDIE, Kirkpatrick & learning/training during an screening interview. #lrnchat
8:42:26 pm magdaZINE: I learned that 1995 UIs are still out there and I unfortunately need to teach people how to use them #lrnchat
8:42:43 pm sahana2802: Q0: Also learned that I love the snow; but this constant cold, wet rain gets me down…:( #lrnchat
8:42:45 pm arossett: #lrnchat today I have a 2 monitor set up. Good, maybe great. If I add a third, will my productivity go wild?
8:42:49 pm kristineshaheen: @everyselearning Awww. That’s such a shame! Try again; it’s worth it! #lrnchat
8:42:56 pm cindyhugg: Q0) Cindy Huggett, joining #lrnchat tonight briefly from an airport, current passion= training & developing trainers
8:43:11 pm martyblow: Learned that writing measureable goals makes IDs cranky. #lrnchat
8:43:17 pm JaneBozarth: Training world took a big hit on Friday with the death of Mel Silberman #lrnchat
8:43:30 pm billcush: Q1) I also learned this week that taking 3 days off from running, will help me run faster tomorrow. #lrnchat Sharpen my ax
8:43:30 pm rmyardley: Russell Yardley investor in learning technology companies Melbourne Australia #lrnchat
8:43:31 pm spotlearning: @ADDIE_ID Oh my, you look like you’ve already been drinking plenty – you’ll need to consult the #lrnchat rules. I’m certain of it.
8:43:35 pm kristineshaheen: @magdaZINE Just learned we have DOS based stuff from the 70’s still kicking around…. lol #lrnchat
8:43:38 pm Dave_Ferguson: @arossett Productive, maybe. Vision change? You bet. #lrnchat
8:43:42 pm michelle300: Q0 – Learned about AICC. #lrnchat
8:43:44 pm JenniferVMiller: Q0 Learned about 10 new online (free) resources/research sites for ldrship development by sharing ideas w/peers #lrnchat
8:44:00 pm forrestkoba: @johnYSchen What is #lrnchat? Not exactly sure what this chat is about, either?
8:44:02 pm tonya_simmons: I learned that I am still allergic to penicillin AND that you can have a reaction from someone else’s meds #lrnchat
8:44:03 pm marciamarcia: Marcia Conner, #lrnchat founder & bigger fan today of @jclarey than even usually. Just back from amazing event & unpacking n’ tweetin.
8:44:17 pm Dave_Ferguson: @JaneBozarth I’m sorry to hear about Mel, Jane. #lrnchat
8:44:25 pm TerrenceWing: Hey @michelle300 Glad to see you hear again #lrnchat
8:44:30 pm roninchef: @magdaZINE Do you do an icebreaker with the It’s Peanut Butter, Jelly Time! Banana too? Or the Singing Hamsters? #lrnchat
8:44:34 pm hjarche: I learned, once again, how to correctly adjust my rear derailleur (bike) with wiki-how #lrnchat
8:44:36 pm Dave_Ferguson: @kristineshaheen I’m not the least surprised about DOS. #lrnchat
8:44:40 pm JenniferVMiller: Oh no! hadn’t heard😦 RT @JaneBozarth: Training world took a big hit on Friday with the death of Mel Silberman #lrnchat
8:44:43 pm ADDIE_ID: @spotlearning Being dead and all, sometimes all I really have to do is drink. #lrnchat
8:44:54 pm everyselearning: @kristineshaheen So I’m told. Some things are just not meant to be. Just wanted 5 mins of someone’s time to introduce me. Not. #lrnchat
8:44:55 pm moehlert: Hey #lrnchat be there in a bit…. Maybe.
8:44:57 pm tonya_simmons: and i’ll reintro myself – forgot tag Tonya Goth Simmons production designer Phasient Learning Technologies, Ames, IA #lrnchat
8:45:07 pm oxala75: superpowers! RT @arossett #lrnchat today I have a 2 monitor set up. Good, maybe great. If I add a third, will my productivity go wild?
8:45:11 pm billcush: I remember OCR drove me nuts in the 90s. I typed. RT @spotlearning: Q0) Learned how to convert scanned pages to OCR in Acrobat #lrnchat
8:45:11 pm JaneBozarth: @Dave_Ferguson Yeah– 14 years with lung cancer. He tried to stay…#lrnchat
8:45:12 pm ajeanne: @arossett Hi Allison! Nice to see you. xoxo #lrnchat
8:45:26 pm Dave_Ferguson: @forrestkoba Informal conversation on learning. See https://lrnchat.wordpress.com… #lrnchat
8:45:35 pm JaneBozarth: I learned that Adobe connect has an iphone app, which is interesting, since Connect is flash-based #lrnchat
8:45:44 pm minutebio: Q0) I learned marketing doesn’t always get brought in on projects at the right time either, misery loves company #lrnchat
8:45:50 pm michelle300: Hi @TerrenceWing Thank you. Nice to see you again. I really enjoy this chat. #lrnchat
8:46:01 pm JenniferVMiller: Me too! RT @cindyhugg: Q0) current passion= training & developing trainers #lrnchat
8:46:05 pm everyselearning: Ahhh for the days of DOS! *sniff* #lrnchat
8:46:10 pm cindyhugg: ditto => RT @Dave_Ferguson: @JaneBozarth I’m sorry to hear about Mel, Jane. #lrnchat
8:46:14 pm gminks: Gina from outside Boston, social media program manager, slacking on my hw. I learned w/o email work stops #lrnchat
8:46:25 pm lrnchat: Q1) Why do training orgs agree to & attempt one-size-fits-all solutions? #lrnchat
8:46:25 pm magdaZINE: @roninchef LOL, No, but I also learned that PB & J stands for pulled pork, baked beans and a shot of Jack #lrnchat
8:46:28 pm billcush: Hat trick. RT @kelly_smith01: Q0) I used ADDIE, Kirkpatrick & learning/training during an screening interview. #lrnchat
8:46:28 pm richardsheehy: Good Evening #lrnchat Richard Sheehy coming in late from SC
8:46:33 pm JaneBozarth: @JessicaBooth Publisher says “summer” and I hope that means June rather than August — thanks #lrnchat
8:46:53 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why do training orgs agree to & attempt one-size-fits-all solutions? #lrnchat
8:46:54 pm cellodav: @normalsubgroup check in on #lrnchat (I’ve got a tweetdeck column devoted to it) Thursdays 8:30pm-sarcasm and irony expected
8:47:05 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why do training orgs agree to & attempt one-size-fits-all solutions? #lrnchat
8:47:15 pm magdaZINE: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why do training orgs agree to & attempt one-size-fits-all solutions? #lrnchat
8:47:16 pm Dave_Ferguson: Q1: they hear their master’s voice–and fear what happens if they say no. #lrnchat
8:47:18 pm oxala75: learned that more of my colleagues are digging the idea of the downfall of Flash. #lrnchat
8:47:22 pm paulmccallum: If you had to deliver mLearning in Indonesia what would you define as the diff between NA and Indo retail learners? #lrnchat
8:47:23 pm richardsheehy: Learned I have a water leak to fix this weekend😦 #lrnchat
8:47:31 pm janet_frg: Q1) one size fit all for global compliance, global roll-out #lrnchat
8:47:31 pm roninchef: @magdaZINE Nice, that combo would get almost anyone into a banana suit. #lrnchat
8:47:45 pm JaneBozarth: Q1: Mgmt believes training = performance. FYI: I think training is to blame for much of this. Training let it happen. #lrnchat
8:47:47 pm jaycross: Q1) one-size-fits-all is efficient; sadly, not effective #lrnchat
8:47:48 pm marciamarcia: @forrestkoba More about #lrnchat than you might really be interested in😉 http://j.mp/lrnchat
8:47:51 pm cindyhugg: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why do training orgs agree to & attempt one-size-fits-all solutions? #lrnchat
8:47:56 pm gminks: Q1: LACK OF RESOURCES #lrnchat
8:47:57 pm Dave_Ferguson: Q1: Also, many decision-makers in many orgs ALSO believe in one-size-fits-all. Also, in sheepdip. #lrnchat
8:48:02 pm kristineshaheen: Ah, keep forgetting #lrnchat!
8:48:03 pm oxala75: @lrnchat Q1) …$$$. #lrnchat
8:48:08 pm martyblow: The business owners are bigger and gave more clout than training. #lrnchat
8:48:09 pm michelle300: Q1 Because it is easy. #lrnchat
8:48:14 pm jsuzcampos: Q0) Because one size fits all solutions are simple, *appear* cost-effective, and easy to deliver to the masses #lrnchat
8:48:14 pm arossett: #lrnchat one size for all? That’s called university education. We have habits, hard to break. Need examples, experiences
8:48:27 pm joe_deegan: Q1) They “Think” they will achieve a higher ROI. Is ROI a drink word? #lrnchat
8:48:34 pm JaneBozarth: Q1. @dave_ferguson… and they don’t know enough about their practice to articulate better solutions to mgmt…#lrnchat
8:48:34 pm jaycross: RT @oxala75: @lrnchat Q1) …$$$. #lrnchat
8:48:40 pm michelle300: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why do training orgs agree to & attempt one-size-fits-all solutions? #lrnchat
8:48:47 pm chrisstjohn: Learned that the reason Flash doesnt work on iPhones is the rollover functionality. #lrnchat
8:48:48 pm spotlearning: Q1) In a word, it’s money…shoe-horn solution to fit all and create the illusion of saving jack…making bean counters happy. #lrnchat
8:48:50 pm minutebio: Q1) If analysis is not done, we really don’t know how to create for the audiences we don’t know #lrnchat
8:49:04 pm stevenbrent: Q1: Odd notions of efficiency and ROI #lrnchat
8:49:19 pm johnYSchen: It’s easier & cheaper to put everyone into one solution than to put multiple solutions to multiple people #lrnchat
8:49:20 pm magdaZINE: Q1) Training not the highest priority for some companies. Think they can save $$ with all-in-one approach #lrnchat
8:49:22 pm arossett: #lrnchat few CLOs would tout one size fits all. They would favor customization, personalization. But doesn’t happen often enuf
8:49:24 pm cindyhugg: Q1) one-size-fits-all solutions are easier to quantify and justify to those who hold the purse strings #lrnchat
8:49:32 pm oxala75: @JaneBozarth if you’re lucky, mgmt thinks training = performance. sometimes they’re not sure training is necessary.. #lrnchat
8:49:39 pm Dave_Ferguson: Q1: Some basic procedural stuff (“how to use new billing system”) may transfer well enough via one-size. Lacks big pic, tho’. #lrnchat
8:49:44 pm cellodav: Q1 because their minions fit into one-size-fits-all cubicles #lrnchat
8:49:47 pm JaneBozarth: Q1. Needing to be better able to talk with mgmt/articulate training to them was the primary reason I went to grad school in T & D #lrnchat
8:50:03 pm kristineshaheen: @JaneBozarth lol Excellent!! #lrnchat
8:50:03 pm JaneBozarth: RT @cellodav: Q1 because their minions fit into one-size-fits-all cubicles #lrnchat
8:50:07 pm lirons: Attended a St. Louis ASTD presentation on informal learning today with Joyce Rogers and Rebecca Ellis of the Fed. Res. Bank. #lrnchat
8:50:08 pm rmyardley: @stevenbrent social makes that effectiveness. power of right choices. #lrnchat
8:50:09 pm moehlert: @lrnchat #lrnchat The answer has to be complicated…wait…no it’s $$$. Next.
8:50:09 pm jsuzcampos: Q0) I learned more about curling than I ever thought possible. #lrnchat
8:50:11 pm minutebio: RT @oxala75: @lrnchat Q1) …$$$. / / And time #lrnchat
8:50:18 pm sahana2802: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1. Needing to be better able to talk with mgmt/articulate training to them was the primary reason I went to grad school in T & D #lrnchat
8:50:19 pm jaycross: Q1) Because we’re uncomfortable with choice. + Sour grapes. “And if it was good enough for me, it’s good enough for them.” #lrnchat
8:50:20 pm Casillia: RT @dmboyer Social networking belongs in school http://bit.ly/9R6f7Q @cnet It’s too easy to ban what you can’t deal with! #openmind #lrnchat
8:50:27 pm johnYSchen: Q1) Organizations are afraid to try new things/be innovative. It’s safer to do what’s “kind of” worked in the past #lrnchat
8:50:39 pm roninchef: Q1 Time constraints. A short dev period you get the eLearning Boomstick and hope some of it will lodge in the learners head. #lrnchat
8:50:48 pm billcush: Q1) Everyone needs training on this….just get ’em into the classroom. #lrnchat
8:50:51 pm reward75: Q1) Because they think everyone needs the same thing #lrnchat
8:50:53 pm oxala75: @minutebio same thing. #lrnchat
8:50:59 pm joewehr: Hi all Joe Wehr CT Boomer w/ a Gen Y mindset Lifelong learner & entrepreneur Impatient w/ large orgs ignoring employees learning #lrnchat
8:50:59 pm chrisstjohn: The “One size fits all” is a very 80s business model. Maximize profits, minimize overhead. #lrnchat
8:51:06 pm joe_deegan: RT @moehlert: @lrnchat #lrnchat The answer has to be complicated…wait…no it’s $$$. Next.
8:51:12 pm martyblow: Q1. Training mgmt not fully supportive of team’s ideas. #lrnchat
8:51:17 pm minutebio: RT @roninchef: Time constraints. A short dev period you get the eLearning Boomstick and hope some will lodge in the learners head. #lrnchat
8:51:20 pm JaneBozarth: @kristineshaheen sorry side questions? #lrnchat
8:51:24 pm Dave_Ferguson: Once interviewed at corp w/ 50% turnover for frontline job. We can live with that, they said. “Too expensive to change.” #lrnchat
8:51:28 pm dawngartin: Hey #lrnchat- in discussion on prof certifications. What is your take on the value #atlcplp
8:51:38 pm ADDIE_ID: Q1 Well don’t look at me. #lrnchat
8:51:42 pm dbolen: RT @dbolen: Q1 that’s always the assumption, one apprach is “best” and cheaper #lrnchat
8:51:43 pm billcush: Indeed. RT @jaycross: Q1) one-size-fits-all is efficient; sadly, not effective #lrnchat
8:51:46 pm SnoozyMeg: #lrnchat Hi, my first time joining you…heard about this from TechKnowledge. I’m in L&D in large co. trying to intro sm into our learning
8:52:02 pm tonya_simmons: @Dave_Ferguson how is it too expensive to change when what they’re doing clearly isn’t working? #lrnchat
8:52:06 pm ajeanne: @arossett I could only stop by for a few minutes tonight. On the way out to dinner with a friend. Happy chatting. #lrnchat
8:52:08 pm moehlert: @Mary_a_Myers #lrnchat You go girl.
8:52:24 pm chrisstjohn: Boomers say “I went to class. I turned out okay. So should you.” #lrnchat
8:52:25 pm richardsheehy: @cindyhugg One-size-fits-all = mass production mentality Sometimes more is just more #lrnchat
8:52:36 pm KoreenOlbrish: At dinner w the ever charming @moehlert Tell Mark to get off his iPhone when I’m sitting right next to him🙂 #lrnchat
8:52:37 pm Dave_Ferguson: @dawngartin Good Q on certifications. My pessimist side says they become box-checking & divorced from real life… #lrnchat
8:52:37 pm TerrenceWing: Welcome RT @SnoozyMeg: #lrnchat Hi, my first time joining you…heard about this from TK10. Im in L&D in large co. #lrnchat
8:52:38 pm dbolen: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Once interviewed at corp w/ 50% turnover for frontline job. We can live with that,. “Too expensive to change.” #lrnchat
8:52:46 pm oxala75: @roninchef ha. i like your likening of our trade to positive bomb-making. #lrnchat
8:52:57 pm JaneBozarth: @Mary_a_Myers You can do both you know. #lrnchat
8:53:08 pm kristineshaheen: @tonya_simmons Well, that depends how you define “working”. #lrnchat
8:53:08 pm marciamarcia: Plenty of times in tech when product is rolling out in weeks/days & someone says, “lets get as many trained as possible NOW.” #lrnchat Q1
8:53:13 pm minutebio: RT @oxala75: @minutebio same thing. #lrnchat
8:53:22 pm oxala75: @Dave_Ferguson you just blew my mind. #lrnchat
8:53:23 pm Dave_Ferguson: @tonya_simmons Too expensive is your assessment. Them: qual of work is OK even w/ hi turnover, thus, not a prob in our eyes. #lrnchat
8:53:26 pm lirons: @lrnchat Don’t say more than you know. #lrnchat
8:53:30 pm joewehr: Q1 Lack of clout , money, time & resources Unwilling to rock the boat Mgmt view of trng #lrnchat
8:53:34 pm TerrenceWing: @KoreenOlbrish Is he tweeting? #lrnchat
8:53:34 pm martyblow: Q1 @ jaycross. Uncomfortable with most change perhaps? #lrnchat
8:53:38 pm kelly_smith01: Smile sheets (level 1 evals) line up with objectives of one size #lrnchat
8:53:41 pm spotlearning: Q1) Isn’t it the “production model” mentality of training at work here…industrial revolution meets information age #lrnchat
8:53:41 pm sahana2802: RT @marciamarcia: Plenty of times in tech when product is rolling out in weeks/days & someone says, “lets get as many trained as possible NOW.” #lrnchat Q1
8:53:46 pm halifaxtweeters: RT @hjarche: Harold Jarche, rebel without a paycheck, in the thriving metropolis of Sackville, NB (pop. 5,000) #lrnchat
8:53:47 pm JaneBozarth: Ha! RT @kristineshaheen: @tonya_simmons Well, that depends how you define “working”. #lrnchat
8:54:06 pm TerrenceWing: RT @cindyhugg: Q1) one-size-fits-all solutions are easier to quantify and justify to those who hold the purse strings #lrnchat
8:54:09 pm kristineshaheen: @tonya_simmons Front line workers can be fairly successful out of the gate. Maybe turnover isn’t seen as impactful. #lrnchat
8:54:20 pm jkunrein: #kcastd board meeting over… holed up @ panera for hot chocolate and #lrnchat
8:54:22 pm minutebio: RT @oxala75: @minutebio same thing. #lrnchat // Except I have had the budget, but not the time (e.g. “needs to launch in 1 month”)
8:54:31 pm roninchef: @oxala75 I like to channel a little Bruce Cambell into all my projects. Groovy! #lrnchat
8:54:33 pm chrisstjohn: Huge numbers of recent govt interviewees said their #1 complaint was that their mgrs did not view learning as corporate asset #lrnchat
8:54:33 pm JaneBozarth: well put RT @kelly_smith01: Smile sheets (level 1 evals) line up with objectives of one size #lrnchat
8:54:39 pm michelle300: Q1 1 size fits all is used in K-12 education. This is what we know. Differentiation takes time. #lrnchat
8:54:41 pm kristineshaheen: @JaneBozarth Nothing, you were just clarifying a point, and for a second I thought you had your own second Q set. lol #lrnchat
8:54:41 pm lirons: @dawngartin Certifications are more often fences around expertise than validation of expertise. #lrnchat
8:54:44 pm richardsheehy: @KoreenOlbrish Awww, come on both of you join the fun #lrnchat
8:54:46 pm joewehr: RT @magdaZINE: Q1) Training not the highest priority for some companies. > not Some, MOST #lrnchat
8:55:17 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) I think a lot of organizations really don’t know that other approaches are available. Training departments train. #lrnchat
8:55:18 pm billcush: RT @chrisstjohn: Boomers say “I went to class. I turned out okay. So should you.” #lrnchat
8:55:23 pm richardsheehy: RT @chrisstjohn: Huge numbers of recent govt interviewees said their #1 complaint was that their mgrs did not view learning as corporate asset #lrnchat
8:55:35 pm roninchef: @SnoozyMeg Welcome to the party. #lrnchat
8:55:36 pm Dave_Ferguson: @michelle300 Absolutely. Never underestimate power of the Little Red Schoolhouse model in the corp / orgworld. #lrnchat
8:55:44 pm tonya_simmons: okay, but there’s got to be at least some ramp up time for new empl., wouldn’t that cut productivity? #lrnchat
8:55:54 pm KoreenOlbrish: Ok, so Mark just corrected my grammar & said “ever charming” is hyphenated. So I take it back…is rarely charming hyphenated? #lrnchat
8:55:56 pm michelle300: Interesting >> RT @lirons: @dawngartin Certifications are more often fences around expertise than validation of expertise. #lrnchat
8:56:12 pm hjarche: RT @lirons: @dawngartin Certifications are more often fences around expertise than validation of expertise | $$ for Associations #lrnchat
8:56:15 pm kristineshaheen: @Dave_Ferguson Honestly, I wasn’t surprised either. The girl who has to learn how to use this interface, on the other hand….. #lrnchat
8:56:25 pm JaneBozarth: @dbolen @dave_ferguson I know of gov’t agency w/ 50%+ turnover. “We don’t really care, people are lined up for those jobs.” #lrnchat
8:56:46 pm rmyardley: measuring activity to get engagements but its hard to turn that into business outcomes to get signoff for investment #lrnchat
8:56:47 pm spotlearning: @KoreenOlbrish rarely-hyphenated is ever-so-charming though. #lrnchat
8:56:48 pm KoreenOlbrish: @TerrenceWing yep. At dinner w me. Rude!😉 #lrnchat
8:56:50 pm michelle300:🙂 RT @Dave_Ferguson: @michelle300 Absolutely. Never underestimate power of the Little Red Schoolhouse model in the corp/orgworld. #lrnchat
8:56:53 pm kristineshaheen: @billcush I think class is still valuable. Social media is supportive. #lrnchat
8:57:09 pm Dave_Ferguson: @tonya_simmons Happy to talk details later, but it was their party. As outsider, I was happy for warning signal for me. #lrnchat
8:57:16 pm everyselearning: So true RT @dawngartin Certifications are more often fences around expertise than validation of expertise | $$ for Associations #lrnchat
8:57:23 pm moehlert: @marciamarcia #lrnchat I believe you just described the birth of ISD and the classroom.
8:57:25 pm kristineshaheen: @tonya_simmons We don’t really allow ramp up time. And yes, it does. But if that’s all you know…. #lrnchat
8:57:38 pm TerrenceWing: Keep blended. Every1 wins RT @kristineshaheen: @billcush I think class is still valuable. Social media is supportive. #lrnchat
8:57:43 pm kelly_smith01: One size is a rather egalitarian approach. Like “boot camps” for new hires. everyone is treated the same. #lrnchat
8:57:53 pm Dave_Ferguson: I think class CAN be valuable, but it’s pretty hard to justify lining grownups in rows & making them listen 45 mins at a stretch. #lrnchat
8:57:54 pm ISPI1962: RT @jsuzcampos Q1) I think a lot of organizations really don’t know that other approaches are available. Training departments train #lrnchat
8:57:56 pm JaneBozarth: I can name one RT @ hjarche: RT @lirons Certifications often fences around expertise than validation of it | $$ for Associations #lrnchat
8:58:01 pm kristineshaheen: @kristineshaheen Mmm. I don’t really mean “we”. Organizations. #lrnchat
8:58:12 pm Dave_Ferguson: …if you want to call that “learning” rather than “hearing a sermon,” I mean. #lrnchat
8:58:30 pm dbolen: @dawngartin hi dawn, nice to see another ATL person in #lrnchat
8:58:43 pm moehlert: @dawngartin Certifications are more often fences around expertise than validation of expertise. #lrnchat /via @lirons
8:58:44 pm billcush: @kristineshaheen Classroom definitely is valuable #lrnchat.
8:58:52 pm everyselearning: @Dave_Ferguson 45 mins? How about 8 hrs? all day every day for years and years…. #lrnchat
8:58:56 pm chrisstjohn: Also many govt mgrs admit that most mid level employees cant write a cohesive para. (and v.v. ) #lrnchat
8:58:57 pm TerrenceWing: @kelly_smith01 Boot camp works incredible in the military. A sick part of me actually misses it. #lrnchat
8:58:59 pm sleveo: Certifications are more often fences around expertise than validation of expertise | $$ for Associations #lrnchat @hjarche @dawngartin
8:59:01 pm arossett: #lrnchat Assignmnt for grad students is investigate if cert is for them or not. Small majority, after study, say yes. Rest not so sure.
8:59:11 pm tonya_simmons: @Dave_Ferguson 45 mintues is sort of low estimate isn’t it? #lrnchat
8:59:13 pm Quinnovator: late to #lrnchat, sorry, lass skipped gym tonite, threw off my sched: excuse tweets for next hour
8:59:17 pm sahana2802: RT @Dave_Ferguson: …if you want to call that “learning” rather than “hearing a sermon,” I mean. #lrnchat
8:59:27 pm jkunrein: or not… apparently panera turns off the wifi to let you know they’re closing…. #lrnchat
8:59:31 pm cellodav: Q1 Q training vs learning: which one is about independent thinking? #lrnchat
8:59:33 pm oxala75: @moehlert @marciamarcia …not to mention the conditions of the birth of my career #lrnchat
8:59:34 pm kristineshaheen: @Dave_Ferguson ie. Class doesn’t need to = lecture #lrnchat
8:59:45 pm lrnchat: Wonder what’s the question? Check the @lrnchat acct for the latest. #lrnchat
8:59:46 pm Dave_Ferguson: @everyselearning Oh, I’m just being my usual mildmannered understated self. #lrnchat
9:00:07 pm hjarche: classroom model stresses knowledge over doing – web gives us chance to return to apprenticeship model cause we can now scale it #lrnchat
9:00:19 pm DanSpira: Q1) Training = understandable “product,” can be comparison shopped.Talent dev/ performance mgmt / consulting, not so much #lrnchat
9:00:23 pm michelle300: RT @lrnchat: Wonder whats the question? Check the @lrnchat acct for the latest. #lrnchat
9:00:24 pm paulmccallum: RT @everyselearning: So true RT @dawngartin Certifications are more often fences around expertise than validation of expertise | $$ for Associations #lrnchat
9:00:29 pm moehlert: @kelly_smith01 #lrnchat Egalitarian or Soviet.😉
9:00:33 pm Dave_Ferguson: @kristineshaheen Agree that class = equal lecture. Race not always to swift, battle to strong,but trend that way.😉 #lrnchat
9:00:37 pm rmyardley: RT @dawngartin Certifications are more often fences around expertise than validation of expertise. eg surgeons #lrnchat
9:00:47 pm everyselearning: @Dave_Ferguson yes I heard that about you #lrnchat
9:00:48 pm spotlearning: @everyselearning At a former employer, some classes were= 12-18 weeks with mostly lecture; some busy-work and reading. Torture. #lrnchat
9:01:04 pm reward75: RT @kristineshaheen: @Dave_Ferguson ie. Class doesnt need to = lecture Disagree Mgmt not willing/brave enuf to push trng
9:05:01 pm Dave_Ferguson: If you don’t know @arossett you should. She knows from optimals and actuals. #lrnchat
9:05:02 pm cindyhugg: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can we improve training for the masses (if/when it’s unavoidable)? #lrnchat
9:05:03 pm TerrenceWing: She should know better RT @JaneBozarth: @marciamarcia said the S word! drink! #lrnchat
9:05:04 pm arossett: #lrnchat options for means, yes; options for ends, only sometimes
9:05:09 pm lirons: RT @Quinnovator: q1) because resources are thin, imagination is limited, and systems are complex #lrnchat (As good as it gets!)
9:05:11 pm rmyardley: we need to recruit the masses to train the masses, collaborative and shared learning #lrnchat
9:05:15 pm sahana2802: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can we improve training for the masses (if/when it’s unavoidable)? #lrnchat
9:05:16 pm billcush: RT @Quinnovator: q1) because resources are thin, imagination is limited, and systems are complex #lrnchat
9:05:34 pm spotlearning: Q2) Lrnr-focused activity; experience; oppy’s for autonomous learning. Group/social lrnng oppy’s. Lrners as collaborators in lrng #lrnchat
9:05:42 pm Dr_KG: We can improve by embracing change. Let’s not solve new world problems with ONLY old world solutions. #lrnchat
9:05:48 pm DeltaKnowledge: RT @hjarche: classroom model stresses knowledge over doing – web gives us chance to return to apprenticeship model cause we can now scale it #lrnchat
9:05:52 pm Quinnovator: @hjarche guilty as charged #lrnchat
9:05:56 pm stevenbrent: Q2: Adopt a hardcore Utilitarian ethic🙂 #lrnchat
9:06:02 pm hjarche: @cindyhugg what’s a CPLP? (same question my clients would ask) #lrnchat
9:06:03 pm xpconcept: Q1) Tradition becomes standard, beliefs are cemented in unbreakable stuff. — late to the party. #lrnchat
9:06:05 pm kristineshaheen: Hmmm. Forgetting the #lrnchat hastag and context again… my fingers just go with the flow!!
9:06:07 pm jeanfranzblau: RT q1) because resources are thin, imagination is limited, and systems are complex #lrnchat what a well thought out answer! #lrnchat
9:06:16 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) Give the “masses” a choice of direction in path through one/size/fits all #lrnchat
9:06:23 pm TerrenceWing: Q2: Train front line managers to facilitate learning. #lrnchat
9:06:26 pm nickfloro: Q2) Using what you have to work with to develop/deliver the best possible learning environment for your users. Stop complaining. #lrnchat
9:06:35 pm cellodav: Q2 keep it human…and funny #lrnchat
9:06:40 pm Dr_KG: RT @spotlearning: Q2) Lrnr-focused activity; experience; oppy’s for autonomous learning. Group/social lrnng oppy’s. Lrners as collaborators in lrng #lrnchat
9:06:50 pm cindyhugg: Q2) #lrnchat Improve by taking it beyond a classroom event. add in pre- & post application activities, add in reality
9:06:52 pm Quinnovator: Q2) better learning experience design: deeper ID, engaging hearts as well as minds, more enlightened pedagogies #lrnchat
9:06:52 pm kristineshaheen: RT @JaneBozarth: @marciamarcia said the S word! drink! #lrnchat
9:06:59 pm minutebio: Q2) For me, I often give plenty of user control and allow learners to choose their “track” in WBTs #lrnchat
9:06:59 pm chrisstjohn: Personally? Subsidized comm college for all. If you are good enough, go further. Univ of DC quite close to that. #lrnchat
9:07:11 pm xpconcept: Q2) consider that training for the masses isn’t best served as packaged / distributed training (info support, comms campaigns) #lrnchat
9:07:11 pm JaneBozarth: @TerrenceWing Sometimes I think people say some words on purpose because they WANT to drink. Agree? #lrnchat
9:07:13 pm Dr_KG: Exploit 21st century literacies. #lrnchat
9:07:14 pm cindyhugg: @hjarche CPLP = certified professional in learning and performance #lrnchat
9:07:22 pm billcush: Now you’re talkin’ RT @TerrenceWing: Q2: Train front line managers to facilitate learning. #lrnchat
9:07:23 pm sahana2802: Q2: Make training happen close to time of need, avoid just-in-case training, let learners explore and find out, don’t give all ans. #lrnchat
9:07:33 pm jsuzcampos: Q2) Training orgs need to remember that there are learners involved. So, involve them (beyond the sign in and smile sheet!) #lrnchat
9:07:35 pm DanSpira: @marciamarcia Good advice, thanks! Though tonight I can’t seem to handle even low-level “ambient intimacy” of the #lrnchat ADD-stream…
9:07:37 pm janet_frg: Q2) learners need to know how training helps them. e.g.makes work easier; is essential to company viability #lrnchat
9:07:38 pm TerrenceWing: @chrisstjohn Noooooooooo #lrnchat
9:07:47 pm JaneBozarth: Ferguson’s been waiting years for a chance to say that. #lrnchat
9:07:50 pm Dave_Ferguson: Helps if you can get client to say (or agree) that people can and do learn well on the job–then move to harness that. #lrnchat
9:07:55 pm sahana2802: RT @jsuzcampos: Q2) Training orgs need to remember that there are learners involved. So, involve them (beyond the sign in and smile sheet!) #lrnchat
9:08:21 pm chrisstjohn: Just in case learning aka “Scrap Learning” (My doctoral thesis) #lrnchat
9:08:25 pm ADDIE_ID: Q2 You could start by adhering to a strict process. #lrnchat
9:08:26 pm spotlearning: RT @sahana2802: Q2: Make training happen close to time of need, avoid just-in-case training, let learners explore and find out, don’t give all ans. #lrnchat
9:08:28 pm nickfloro: Q2) Keep mgnmt + team up to date on latest tech, & look to others to lrn what they do.See what you can apply/learn to your field. #lrnchat
9:08:40 pm hjarche: RT @cindyhugg: @hjarche CPLP = certified professional in learning and performance #lrnchat
9:08:44 pm kristineshaheen: *repositories. #lrnchat
9:08:46 pm kelly_smith01: RT @TerrenceWing Sometimes I think people say some words on purpose because they WANT to drink. –>I’ll do an ROI study. #lrnchat
9:09:04 pm leadmusicpic: Q2) give time to faciliate discussion, that will customize any standard class… #lrnchat
9:09:10 pm britz: Q2) use SM tools to capture pre-training participant needs/wants, strengths/weaknesses, fears, inputs.. #lrnchat
9:09:18 pm TerrenceWing: @JaneBozarth Who needs an excuse. J. Walker is parked right on my desk Mmmm #lrnchat but just in case “PEDAGOGY”
9:09:33 pm spotlearning: Any ideas what that might be called? ROTFLM*O — RT @ADDIE_ID: Q2 You could start by adhering to a strict process. #lrnchat
9:09:37 pm arossett: #lrnchat problem wiith masses is that it is often a spray job, trng for all, without questions abt memory v reference
9:09:39 pm Dave_Ferguson: @JaneBozarth And I thought you knew me. I never wait years to say anything. #lrnchat
9:10:11 pm jsuzcampos: RT @britz: Q2) use SM tools to capture pre-training participant needs/wants, strengths/weaknesses, fears, < Labels matter Bootcamp trumps Training Agree?
9:13:02 pm reward75: Q2) Let me rephrase that… whatever method you choose, take the time to do it right #lrnchat
9:13:06 pm JaneBozarth: @tonya_simmons Coffee’s fine, but don’t expect it to make you invisible or anything. #lrnchat
9:13:11 pm rmyardley: Q2 getting closer to learning by doing #lrnchat
9:13:12 pm TerrenceWing: Just wrote this blog post today- Twitter for the Learning Pro – I am trying to get more learning pros to use #lrnchat
9:13:22 pm lirons: RT @arossett: #lrnchat strict process? Seen lots of such talk, little value follows. Heuristic better http://bit.ly/ag2NIv (agreed!)
9:13:24 pm everyselearning: Aren’t we really asking, how do you create training suitable for all while still addressing individual needs? #lrnchat
9:13:46 pm Dr_KG: @kelly_smith01 What was this in response to? I agree that flexibility is critical. #lrnchat
9:13:52 pm SnoozyMeg: @roninchef Give them SEARCH tools to start with, right? #lrnchat
9:13:59 pm kristineshaheen: #lrnchat Ah, I say go ahead, go for full firehouse flow!! Call whatever is leftover serendipity. :p
9:14:11 pm billcush: Giddy Up. RT @tonya_simmons: Q2) one of our clients gets it-doesn’t care how they learn…as long as they lrn it #lrnchat
9:14:17 pm arossett: #lrnchat yes, they like the classroom, espec if it means pretty place, food, respite for routine. But new world is coming
9:14:20 pm leadmusicpic: @TerrenceWing Thxs I’ll have to check this out and pass it on to my groupies…. #lrnchat
9:14:20 pm joewehr: RT @cellodav: Q1 Q training vs learning: which one is about independent thinking? #lrnchat Learning is, at least thinking
9:14:25 pm Dave_Ferguson: Just to contrary, as a learner I have always seen “boot camp” as an over macho term that reinforced sheepdip / osmosis approach. #lrnchat
9:14:27 pm Quinnovator: RT @rmyardley: Q2 getting closer to learning by doing #lrnchat RT @JaneBozarth: @tonya_simmons Coffee’s fine, but don’t expect it to make you invisible or anything. #lrnchat
9:14:33 pm Dave_Ferguson: Not that anyone ever asked. #lrnchat
9:14:34 pm marciamarcia: Pretesting. Find out (don’t grade!) what ppl know going in & then organize groups accordingly. #lrnchat
9:15:20 pm billcush: Support resources are under-appreciated RT @xpconcept: Q2) start with support tools first, well cncvd job support strategies #lrnchat
9:15:23 pm kelly_smith01: @Dr_KG I’d say yes. Think it was some one else’s tweet. I RTed #lrnchat
9:15:23 pm Dave_Ferguson: Cf. war room, center of excellence, world class, paradigm shift, and other self-important bureaucratic prattle. #lrnchat
9:15:25 pm JaneBozarth: ROTFL!! RT @Dave_Ferguson: Not that anyone ever asked. #lrnchat
9:15:30 pm TerrenceWing: @joewehr Or scares them. But it’s pretty common now #lrnchat
9:15:37 pm hjarche: @Dave_Ferguson having been to bootcamp & instructed it, these fake bootcamps are in a different universe #lrnchat
9:15:37 pm cindyhugg: RT @Dr_KG: RT @roninchef: Q2 Give them the tools to find an answer and help them support themselves. #lrnchat
9:15:59 pm arossett: #lrnchat new world is fewer moments in classrooms, hotels & restaurants, and MORE spray & pray– online. Wont like that Will blame tech.
9:16:01 pm roninchef: @SnoozyMeg And something to search for. A robust help system goes a long way. A better tool than say torches and pitchforks! #lrnchat
9:16:08 pm rmyardley: pre-testing might be examining the electronic footprint of learners before formal learning #lrnchat
9:16:11 pm joewehr: RT @everyselearning: sorry guys Canada getting gold medals. I gotta watch! > We in US tired of watching all our medal ceremonies #lrnchat
9:16:20 pm TerrenceWing: Ooops forgot the link to “Twitter 4 the Learning Pro” http://liquidlearn.com/?p=224 #lrnchat
9:16:22 pm oxala75: @everyselearning that sounds familiar. pretty sure it was on my to-do list this week. #lrnchat
9:16:35 pm xpconcept: Mil. bootcamps a psychological pounding aimed at reshaping foundations. Effective. But couldn’t be done in any nrml job envir. #lrnchat
9:17:06 pm marciamarcia: Mass will always be more diverse than “spray n pray” can account for. Help people self-organize. #lrnchat
9:17:06 pm lrnchat: Q3) What are some business realities we contend with at odds with doing training in a smart way? #lrnchat
9:17:17 pm TerrenceWing: @xpconcept Let’s try. I don’t think anyone ever has. #lrnchat
9:17:24 pm janetclarey: @hjarche no, not abandoning #lrnchat community : ) just got back from hockey, watching Olympics,answering DMS…1 more channel might kill me
9:17:30 pm joewehr: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can we improve training for the masses (if/when it’s unavoidable)? #lrnchat > provide choice & variety of delivery
9:17:31 pm cindyhugg: Q2 #lrnchat Many yrs ago, taught software class that gave a problem/task, taught how to use Help & other resources, then said GO.
9:17:36 pm Dr_KG: RT @TerrenceWing: Ooops forgot the link to “Twitter 4 the Learning Pro” http://liquidlearn.com/?p=224 #lrnchat
9:17:45 pm cindyhugg: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What are some business realities we contend with at odds with doing training in a smart way? #lrnchat
9:17:53 pm JaneBozarth: Q2) smaller pieces, customizable paths, modular, test-out options #lrnchat
9:18:04 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What are some business realities we contend with at odds with doing training in a smart way? #lrnchat
9:18:07 pm spotlearning: I think “boot camp” is mostly an over-used metaphor to market topic-focused learning events. #lrnchat
9:18:14 pm tonya_simmons: @xpconcept I don’t know, I’ve been in some normal job environments that fit that bill #lrnchat
9:18:15 pm kristineshaheen: @arossett Online doesn’t have to be spray-and-pray! There is as much potential for effective analysis and evaluation. #lrnchat
9:18:16 pm oxala75: Q3) money, time, poor understanding of how difficult it is to craft persistent learning, lack of vision, etc. #lrnchat
9:18:18 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What are some business realities we contend with at odds with doing training in a smart way? #lrnchat
9:18:24 pm TerrenceWing: Q3: Where 2 start- $, time, ignorance, priorities, misconceptions. etc etc #lrnchat
9:18:27 pm gminks: RT @JaneBozarth: Q2) smaller pieces, customizable paths, modular, test-out options #lrnchat
9:18:28 pm sahana2802: RT @JaneBozarth: Q2) smaller pieces, customizable paths, modular, test-out options #lrnchat
9:18:37 pm joewehr: RT @everyselearning: Go Canada Go! #lrnchat > 2nd that Canada is GREAT friend to US
9:18:52 pm stevenbrent: Q2: Failing all other solutions, there’s always the Ludovico Technique… #lrnchat
9:18:53 pm kristineshaheen: Q3) Acceptance of the status quo. #lrnchat
9:18:54 pm sahana2802: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What are some business realities we contend with at odds with doing training in a smart way? #lrnchat
9:18:55 pm TerrenceWing: Agree RT @spotlearning: I think boot camp is mostly an over-used metaphor to market topic-focused learning events. #lrnchat
9:19:04 pm Quinnovator: @marciamarcia pre-testing is learner abuse (unless used to learner benefit) http://bit.ly/BS32G #lrnchat
9:19:04 pm jenilsson: q3) Need training yesterday, quality is second priority (if you’re lucky). #lrnchat
9:19:12 pm gminks: q3 Lack of resources. Priorities become politicized #lrnchat
9:19:13 pm oxala75: Q3) (cont.) …technophobia, archaic concepts about training, training-as-HR-stamp (rather than for learning) #lrnchat
9:19:17 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What are some business realities we contend with at odds with doing training in a smart way? #lrnchat
9:19:17 pm LandDDave: Q3) Businesses tend to be reactive, and learning works better with a plan! #lrnchat
9:19:19 pm billcush: Did someone say food? RT @arossett: #lrnchat yes, they like the classroom, espec if it means…food…But new world is coming
9:19:19 pm roninchef: Q3 When that PM comes to you in the 11th hour before go-live and pulls the old Steve Jobs “And one more thing” stunt. #lrnchat
9:19:20 pm chrisstjohn: Q3 Boomer mgrs who think learning is only done on personal time & not business time. “You want 2 learn, go home” #lrnchat
9:19:30 pm JaneBozarth: Q3) Lack of clarity about desired outcomes of training #lrnchat
9:19:34 pm TerrenceWing: RT @Quinnovator: @marciamarcia pre-testing is learner abuse (unless used to learner benefit) http://bit.ly/BS32G #lrnchat
9:19:57 pm mojotillett: RT @TerrenceWing: Ooops forgot the link to “Twitter 4 the Learning Pro” http://liquidlearn.com/?p=224 #lrnchat
9:19:59 pm kristineshaheen: @TerrenceWing Odd, considering that real boot camp is general (comprehensive) training. #lrnchat
9:20:12 pm TerrenceWing: RT @chrisstjohn: Q3 Mgrs who think learning is only done on personal time & not business time. “You want 2 learn, go home” #lrnchat
9:20:15 pm cellodav: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What are some business realities we contend with at odds with doing training in a smart way? #lrnchat
9:20:25 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) Not having a focuse on performance outcome. #lrnchat
9:20:27 pm xpconcept: Q3) Traditions. The molds of what we’ve seen define what we do today… and tomorrow. Imagination failure. Failure to ask why. #lrnchat
9:20:29 pm stevenbrent: Q3: Insanely aggressive timelines (esp in my experience with e-Learning dev) #lrnchat
9:20:33 pm joewehr: Role of Shared collaborative leraning, a la wikis ?#lrnchat
9:20:40 pm Dave_Ferguson: @kristineshaheen On the other hand, reality TV is an oxymoron. #lrnchat
9:20:42 pm nickfloro: Q3 To much management, not sharing resources/goals/knowledge, following status quo and not trying alternate techs or solutions. #lrnchat
9:20:46 pm rmyardley: Q3 the days is 24 hrs, work 8,10 more My day is full. If I am to do this what am I not going to do? #lrnchat
9:20:49 pm TerrenceWing: And so much more impactful RT @kristineshaheen: Odd, considering that real boot camp is general (comprehensive) training. #lrnchat
9:20:51 pm stevenbrent: RT @kristineshaheen: Q3) Acceptance of the status quo. #lrnchat
9:20:53 pm Quinnovator: Q3: seeing learning as a cost-center instead of a strategic partner #lrnchat
9:21:02 pm cindyhugg: RT @TerrenceWing: link to “Twitter 4 the Learning Pro” http://liquidlearn.com/?p=224 #lrnchat
9:21:11 pm kristineshaheen: RT @rmyardley: Q3 the days is 24 hrs, work 8,10 more My day is full. If I am to do this what am I not going to do? #lrnchat
9:21:12 pm reward75: Q3) Thinking training will solve all problems #lrnchat
9:21:22 pm JaneBozarth: q3) Mgrs who believe answer to policy/compliance requirement is to do CYA “training” #lrnchat
9:21:23 pm jenilsson: Q3) “What do you mean you need to review training materials you created? You’re good at your job right?” #lrnchat
9:21:26 pm JoelFoner: Just got back… Hi all… Scrolling trying to catch up with tonight’s #lrnchat
9:21:28 pm minutebio: Q3) Staff overwhelmed and monopolized with tasks that trump “attending training” #lrnchat
9:21:30 pm Dave_Ferguson: RT @kelly_smith01: Q3) Not having a focuse on performance outcome. // Yes. ‘Training’ does not mean ‘panacea.’ Nor ‘placebo.’ #lrnchat
9:21:41 pm cindyhugg: #lrnchat have to sign off, see you next week!
9:21:41 pm TerrenceWing: The ECONOMY – There I said it. The excuse dujoir #lrnchat
9:21:41 pm spotlearning: Especially when the bix doesn’t even know. RT @JaneBozarth: Q3) Lack of clarity about desired outcomes of training #lrnchat
9:21:45 pm kristineshaheen: Q3) Fear. #lrnchat
9:21:48 pm MariaOD: Q2: know the tasks that R being done, provide PS & resources, build a network of early adopters/champions in all areas of the org! #lrnchat
9:21:54 pm gminks: RT @kelly_smith01: Q3) Not having a focuse on performance outcome. #lrnchat
9:21:58 pm JaneBozarth: @TerrenceWing In instance of lots of forced training, I’d thing the pretest is the lesser of two abusive evils #lrnchat
9:21:59 pm stevenbrent: RT @gminks: q3 Lack of resources. Priorities become politicized #lrnchat
9:21:59 pm billcush: Q3) Flying everyone in to have f2f training session in modern high-tech facility would be great..not gonna spend $124,399 to do it. #lrnchat
9:22:03 pm joewehr: RT @billcush: Q2 convince the masses to want to learn. People have to want it. #lrnchat > Those who don’t want to learn should be let go
9:22:03 pm arossett: #lrnchat Q3 We want to please and thus do the habitual thing which is requested. Need to do more customer ed via examples
9:22:05 pm xpconcept: Q3) Failure of evidence. Finish, deploy, wash hands, move on. #lrnchat
9:22:10 pm chrisstjohn: Remember, George Lucas fired his first Special Effects Supervisor. http://twitpic.com/158wpn #lrnchat
9:22:10 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) Creation of performance solution not based on assessment of performers or processes #lrnchat
9:22:12 pm stevenbrent: RT @JaneBozarth: Q3) Lack of clarity about desired outcomes of training #lrnchat
9:22:20 pm Dave_Ferguson: Compliance training (noun): File drawer label for signed class rosters. #lrnchat
9:22:26 pm gminks: not always an excuse, it impacts resourcing RT @TerrenceWing: The ECONOMY – There I said it. The excuse dujoir #lrnchat
9:22:27 pm TerrenceWing: If true why don’t they make us CEOs RT @reward75: Q3) Thinking training will solve all problems #lrnchat
9:22:35 pm cellodav: Q3 maybe training is seen as an actionable and measurable activity that shareholders can accept #lrnchat
9:22:42 pm marciamarcia: @Quinnovator Just reading your post now and agree. I find this approach always appreciated by learners & never a “pop” surprise. #lrnchat
9:22:45 pm cammybean: Q3: Forgetting to put the focus on performance. #lrnchat
9:22:49 pm johnYSchen: Q3) Upper management with unclear/unknown needs of the rest of the organization. Often they only see a small part of the picture #lrnchat
9:22:50 pm sahana2802: RT @kelly_smith01: Q3) Creation of performance solution not based on assessment of performers or processes #lrnchat
9:22:51 pm jclarey: Q3 we have to contend w/ ourselves.we should just stfu about sitting at any table and just sit down and be part of the business. #lrnchat
9:22:53 pm oxala75: @JaneBozarth or that training is expressly for CYA. #lrnchat
9:22:57 pm rmyardley: Q3 things are more & more complicated and complex training solutions can be seen as too simple. #lrnchat
9:23:04 pm kristineshaheen: @JaneBozarth CYA = Canadian Yachting Association #lrnchat
9:23:05 pm JoelFoner: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What are some business realities we contend with at odds with doing training in a smart way? #lrnchat
9:23:15 pm billcush: Love it. Only train those who actually need it. RT @marciamarcia: Pretesting. Find out what ppl know going in… #lrnchat
9:23:16 pm arossett: #lrnchat sorry must go. Thx so much.
9:23:17 pm TerrenceWing: @JaneBozarth Forced training. Ugh #lrnchat
9:23:26 pm lirons: @JaneBozarth Q3) Failure to recognize that learning occurs in an ecosystem of shared knowledge and practice. #lrnchat
9:23:27 pm kristineshaheen: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Compliance training (noun): File drawer label for signed class rosters. #lrnchat
9:23:27 pm Quinnovator: @marciamarcia but why help them assess beforehand, unless trimming learning? Shouldn’t offer if don’t know it’s needed, no? #lrnchat
9:23:33 pm gminks: RT @cammybean: Q3: Forgetting to put the focus on performance. #lrnchat
9:23:45 pm hjarche: Business reality: in many cases, training is a solution looking for a problem #lrnchat
9:23:50 pm nickfloro: Q3 – getting locked into same format, throw it up, click, click, click, test, click, click, click, test. #lrnchat
9:23:52 pm Quinnovator: @marciamarcia have no prob with them ‘testing out’, but otherwise asking them stuff we/they know they don’t know… agree, no term #lrnchat
9:23:55 pm Dave_Ferguson: @arossett Y’all come back. #lrnchat
9:24:08 pm JoelFoner: A3: Time. Ability to justify specific business-useful returns from training investment. (Not just ” req’d seat time”.) #lrnchat
9:24:09 pm chrisstjohn: Training budgets – always the first to be cut and the last to be restored. #lrnchat
9:24:10 pm halifaxtweeters: RT @hjarche: I went to a one room schoolhouse – it was not exactly egalitarian but it was interesting #lrnchat
9:24:12 pm marciamarcia: @Quinnovator Welcome name for helping learners assess how much about topic they know beforehand, testing out or choosing to stay. #lrnchat
9:24:13 pm rmyardley: Q3 is it a trainer or a mentor I need? #lrnchat
9:24:14 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) No way to link outcome of learning event to performance on the job (learning event does not reflect current practice) #lrnchat
9:24:30 pm spotlearning: Q3) Biz expects performance results on a knowledge-based budget for time/cost/quality. Lowest denominator determines results. #lrnchat
9:24:36 pm reward75: Becuz when training doesn’t work, it’s our fault RT @TerrenceWing: If true why dont they make us CEOs #lrnchat
9:24:51 pm stevenbrent: @TerrenceWing Because then they’d have to pay us😉 #lrnchat
9:24:51 pm cammybean: @Dave_Ferguson I just started reading (finally) Mager’s book: What Every Manager Should Know About Training. #lrnchat
9:24:53 pm Dave_Ferguson: @nickfloro Donald Cook, 30 years ago, called that the ‘back to the salt mine’ approach to remediation (reread module 3!) #lrnchat
9:24:54 pm TerrenceWing: RT @chrisstjohn: Training budgets – always the first to be cut and the last to be restored. #lrnchat
9:25:00 pm JaneBozarth: 1/2 Training has allowed this to happen. Being order takers hasn’t served anyone #lrnchat
9:25:09 pm gminks: @Quinnovator: @marciamarcia experts are hired at all levels, how do you know who needs it without preTesting esp in large orgs? #lrnchat
9:25:10 pm arossett: #lrnchat do you think I think online learning is just spray/pray? Really do not. See elrng snapshots at http://bit.ly/7Y2qZa
9:25:13 pm lirons: Bye #lrnchat, very stimulating!
9:25:22 pm hjarche: Want to prove your training works? Make it 100% voluntary #lrnchat
9:25:28 pm billcush: Q3) It would be ideal to do this training in X hours, but the business can only afford Y hours..customers come first #lrnchat
9:25:29 pm joewehr: RT @billcush: Now you’re talkin’ RT @TerrenceWing: Q2: Train front line managers to facilitate learning. #lrnchat > Evaluate if they do
9:25:30 pm TerrenceWing: Conspiracy RT @reward75: Becuz when training doesnt work, its our fault RT @TerrenceWing: If true why dont they make us CEOs #lrnchat
9:25:35 pm Quinnovator: @marciamarcia self-learning? learner choice? learner-directed? #lrnchat
9:25:37 pm spotlearning: RT @JaneBozarth: 1/2 Training has allowed this to happen. Being order takers hasn’t served anyone #lrnchat
9:25:38 pm nickfloro: Q3- management wants it, doesn’t want to define it, but whatever they are imagining needs to be done in less than xx days #lrnchat
9:25:42 pm kristineshaheen: @Quinnovator Hmmm… not trim, target. Not that official “testing” is really necessary… #lrnchat
9:25:47 pm JaneBozarth: 2/2 “Yes, sir, you want an order of Teambuilding with a side of Leadership! Coming up!” hasn’t served anyone #lrnchat
9:25:53 pm TerrenceWing: Can’t have that RT @stevenbrent: @TerrenceWing Because then they’d have to pay us😉 #lrnchat
9:25:54 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: 1/2 Training has allowed this to happen. Being order takers hasnt served anyone—> Say yessss #lrnchat
9:26:10 pm Dave_Ferguson: @cammybean A breath of fresh air, isn’t it? #lrnchat
9:26:14 pm JoelFoner: What if completion eval/tests were actually hard, as with academia, some ppl don’t pass? (never seen that in bus…) #lrnchat
9:26:14 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lirons Q3) Failure to recognize that learning occurs in an ecosystem of shared knowledge and practice. #lrnchat
9:26:26 pm cammybean: @JaneBozarth I’ll take a chef salad, please. #lrnchat
9:26:32 pm kristineshaheen: @hjarche Does that prove efficacy or entertainment value? Or both? #lrnchat
9:26:33 pm rmyardley: Q3 Can we turn doing activities into learning ones as well? #lrnchat
9:26:42 pm cammybean: @Dave_Ferguson Great stuff. Thanks for pushing it on me! #lrnchat
9:26:44 pm Dave_Ferguson: @JaneBozarth Au contraire. Billions and billions served. (Learning, well, that’s something else.) #lrnchat
9:26:50 pm reward75: I agree🙂 RT @TerrenceWing: Conspiracy RT @reward75: Becuz when training doesnt work, its our fault #lrnchat
9:26:56 pm kristineshaheen: RT @lirons Q3) Failure to recognize that learning occurs in an ecosystem of shared knowledge and practice. #lrnchat
9:27:06 pm xpconcept: @Quinnovator @marciamarcia – would love to see a #lrnchat on assessment fallacies.
9:27:07 pm Quinnovator: @gminks no prob with pre-test IF allows to skip (or can choose to take & skip quiz). But pre-test for ‘delta’ or to activate, no! #lrnchat
9:27:12 pm JaneBozarth: @cammybean You can only get that during the Business Etiquette course. #lrnchat
9:27:16 pm cellodav: RT @kristineshaheen: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Compliance training (noun): File drawer label for signed class rosters. #lrnchat
9:27:17 pm gminks: I’d like a glass of wine plz if you are taking orders RT @cammybean: @JaneBozarth Ill take a chef salad, please. #lrnchat
9:27:28 pm JaneBozarth: @cammybean And hi! #lrnchat
9:27:32 pm gminks: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @lirons Q3) Failure to recognize that learning occurs in an ecosystem of shared knowledge and practice. #lrnchat
9:27:36 pm hjarche: @kristineshaheen if people need the training to do something of importance, they’ll take it, if not, why should they? #lrnchat
9:27:50 pm jclarey: @arossett i don’t see e0learning as spray/pray. bad stuff is what hurts us. not enough examples of the good stuff.also.. #lrnchat
9:28:01 pm cellodav: RT @rmyardley: Q3 is it a trainer or a mentor I need? #lrnchat
9:28:11 pm rmyardley: Q3 as more and more business activity is knowledge and judgement based ISD approaches become less relevant #lrnchat
9:28:17 pm cammybean: @JaneBozarth Hi! (I was reading Harry Potter to the kids…) #lrnchat
9:28:20 pm kristineshaheen: @hjarche To get out of work. To meet people. To network. To get free food. #lrnchat
9:28:21 pm joewehr: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @arossett Would U agree sometimes masses have been conditioned to EXPECT spray-&-pray? #lrnchat Don’t have to ACCEPT it
9:28:24 pm hjarche: We allowed pilots to test out of training – so why can’t your training department? #lrnchat
9:28:29 pm Quinnovator: @marciamarcia think we’re agreeing furiously😉 #lrnchat
9:28:29 pm simbeckhampson: @Dave_Ferguson Hi Dave and good night #lrnchat (bedtime)
9:28:35 pm JaneBozarth: I’d rather sit through 1 hour spray/pray CYA elearning compliance course than 6 hour live one… #lrnchat
9:28:38 pm Quinnovator: RT @xpconcept: @Quinnovator @marciamarcia – would love to see a #lrnchat on assessment fallacies.
9:28:45 pm cellodav: RT @hjarche: Want to prove your training works? Make it 100% voluntary #lrnchat
9:28:52 pm hjarche: RT @kristineshaheen: @hjarche To get out of work. To meet people. To network. To get free food. |😀 #lrnchat
9:28:56 pm cammybean: So much of the elearning that gets created is really just e-information. #lrnchat
9:28:59 pm Dave_Ferguson: Mager’s “What Every Mgr Shld Know” great to give a friendly client–smuggle in perf improvement message. #lrnchat
9:29:01 pm minutebio: RT @JaneBozarth: Id rather sit through 1 hour spray/pray CYA elearning compliance course than 6 hour live one… #lrnchat
9:29:13 pm JaneBozarth: @cammybean Wonderful. Have been listening to books 1 and 2 in the car the last couple of weeks #lrnchat
9:29:14 pm gminks: not sure I agree w this RT @rmyardley: as more & more biz activity is knowledge& judgement based ISD approaches bcome less relevant #lrnchat
9:29:23 pm cammybean: @simbeckhampson I see your double dipping today! #lrnchat
9:29:26 pm kelly_smith01: RT @cammybean: So much of the elearning that gets created is really just e-information. #lrnchat
9:29:30 pm mojotillett: @Quinnovator @gminks pre-test IF allows to skip (or can choose to take & skip quiz). #lrnchat > this comes down to more choices for learners
9:29:35 pm roninchef: @JaneBozarth eLearning Boomstick goes BOOM! #lrnchat
9:29:35 pm mctoonish: @hjarche Working on designing a course on math for students to do before they start apprenticeship program. Voluntary … #lrnchat
9:29:49 pm sahana2802: RT @gminks: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @lirons Q3) Failure to recognize that learning occurs in an ecosystem of shared knowledge and practice. #lrnchat
9:29:53 pm kristineshaheen: So true! Good but often misplaced. RT @cammybean: So much of the elearning that gets created is really just e-information. #lrnchat
9:30:03 pm reward75: @rmyardley: Q3 Can we turn doing activities into learning ones as well? Yes, all my app sessions teach the concept and technique #lrnchat
9:30:09 pm gminks: @jclarey hi! nice post the other day, that slide looked VERY familiar to me🙂 #lrnchat
9:30:10 pm marciamarcia: @Quinnovator What’s wrong with the term pretest or even self-pretest? Just make it a good one respectful of ppls’ time & experience #lrnchat
9:30:12 pm SnoozyMeg: @kelly_smith01 Yup and often torture! #lrnchat
9:30:30 pm marciamarcia: @xpconcept And good old fashion frontline experience. Consider it a topic for future #lrnchat
9:30:33 pm spotlearning: Click, click, click, click. RT @JaneBozarth: I’d rather sit through 1 hour spray/pray CYA elearning… #lrnchat
9:30:35 pm hjarche: RT @mctoonish Working on designing a course on math for students to do before they start apprenticeship program. Voluntary … #lrnchat
9:30:40 pm mctoonish: @hjarche Problem is that we suspect those who don’t NEED it will be ones who do it and those who do need it won’t touch it. #lrnchat
9:30:48 pm billcush: Shouldn’t people be able to test-out of training? RT @TerrenceWing: RT @Quinnovator: @marciamarcia http://bit.ly/BS32G #lrnchat
9:30:48 pm Quinnovator: pre-testing for delta is an evil that I want to terminate with extreme prejudice #lrnchat
9:30:57 pm cammybean: @JaneBozarth Ahhh…no wonder we both keep making invisibility cloak references. We’re reading book #4 now. #lrnchat
9:31:00 pm kristineshaheen: @gminks I disagree with it. Sorry. @rmyardley Knowledge and judgement require better / more ISD, not none. #lrnchat
9:31:11 pm Quinnovator: @marciamarcia as long as it’s #lrnchat
9:31:15 pm reward75: RT @lirons Q3) … learning occurs in an ecosystem of shared knowledge and practice. 60% is plenty nonclass
9:32:06 pm Quinnovator: @marciamarcia as long as the pre-test has an opt-out, it’s OK by me #lrnchat
9:32:10 pm gminks: as an instructor I loved pre-testing. Kept ppl who shouldn’t be in class OUT. They would be so far behind everyone else! #lrnchat
9:32:17 pm kelly_smith01: At least with a bad elearn lesson U can click Next to avoid the bad jokes instead torture of classroom session #lrnchat
9:32:29 pm shelleyisgoing: @rmyardley – doing activities into learning activities…you mean like on-the-job training? #lrnchat
9:32:37 pm Quinnovator: RT @jclarey: i saw an awesome compliance e-learning course this week. a game. stop knocking compliance prob is the design #lrnchat RT @kelly_smith01: Getting enforcement of pre-test (pre-admit) is another thing #lrnchat
9:35:36 pm spotlearning: @SnoozyMeg Self-assessments (done well) rock. They help the learners get a self-set baseline. #lrnchat
9:35:39 pm joewehr: RT @halifaxtweeters: RT @hjarche: I went to a one room schoolhouse #lrnchat > probably learned & “taught” (& learned while teaching)
9:35:50 pm johnYSchen: Self-assessment to find out about you? Or self-assessments forced on you? RT @SnoozyMeg maybe I’m weird I love self-assessments #lrnchat
9:35:52 pm TerrenceWing: Q4: Industrial strength adhesive to all chairs #lrnchat
9:36:00 pm rmyardley: as we work more and more digitally we create the assets that both show how we work & what we have learnt #lrnchat
9:36:05 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What are some creative ways, in a mass approach, to make training stick? #lrnchat
9:36:12 pm Quinnovator: @kristineshaheen not the term, just see WAY too often that it’s used to do a pre-/post-test delta, which is wrong…(1/2)#lrnchat
9:36:14 pm SnoozyMeg: Q4: Stories, discussions, making them DO something #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:36:21 pm leadmusicpic: Q4) this is a good one…have ppl to bring real live examples to class & apply learning there? #lrnchat
9:36:22 pm cathycheely: RT @Quinnovator: pre-testing for delta is an evil that I want to terminate with extreme prejudice #lrnchat
9:36:24 pm kristineshaheen: @JaneBozarth C’mon, Jane, I tried Google and *still* see “Canadian Yachting Association”. Throw me a bone! lol #lrnchat
9:36:25 pm Dave_Ferguson: I think pretesting is often ritual practice–done to control access, not to help decide “is X worth my time?” #lrnchat
9:36:31 pm xpconcept: We use pre-test as a tailoring / test-out mechanism. Still battling against delta measurements. #lrnchat.
9:36:44 pm billcush: Now that is just plain genius. RT @hjarche: Want to prove your training works? Make it 100% voluntary #lrnchat
9:36:46 pm JoelFoner: @marciamarcia Can you explain that one a touch more (re bad word vs bad practices)? #lrnchat
9:36:56 pm kristineshaheen: @hjarche I like free food. #lrnchat
9:36:59 pm marciamarcia: @kristineshaheen I believe pre-testing can be very helpful when done for learners benefit. Check stream for last 5 minutes. #lrnchat
9:37:00 pm Quinnovator: @kristineshaheen as @marciamarcia says, term/concept isn’t wrong, just how used! But I see ALL the time pre/post delta argument #lrnchat
9:37:04 pm TerrenceWing: RT @xpconcept: We use pre-test as a tailoring / test-out mechanism. Still battling against delta measurements. #lrnchat. #lrnchat
9:37:06 pm spotlearning: Why not? Why waste the learners’ time? Good design puts the learner in charge. RT @leadmusicpic: ,,,may “clep” out of learning? #lrnchat
9:37:09 pm reward75: @Dave_Ferguson Yes, I look at the larger concept/task that needs 2 b accomplished, wish more people did as well #lrnchat
9:37:10 pm gminks: q4 tell the story that ties the instruction to the person’s job role #lrnchat
9:37:18 pm chrisstjohn: Q4) Post class continuous learning and knowledge sgaring online updates #lrnchat
9:37:24 pm joewehr: RT @hjarche: Want to prove your training works? Make100% voluntary #lrnchat > as long as it’s learner, not mgr, makes decision to attend
9:37:25 pm tonya_simmons: Q4) we use a record & playback future for people to practice responding to cust. service-type situations #lrnchat
9:37:28 pm Dave_Ferguson: Making training stick. #1: org/mgrs/trainers must accept they can’t make people learn, but sure can hinder learning. #lrnchat
9:37:29 pm cellodav: RT @gminks: as instructor loved pre-testing. Kept ppl who shouldn’t be in class OUT. They’d be so far behind everyone else! #lrnchat or ahed
9:37:34 pm Quinnovator: RT @xpconcept: We use pre-test as a tailoring / test-out mechanism. Still battling against delta measurements. #lrnchat <my hero!
9:37:36 pm leadmusicpic: @TerrenceWing ha ha, or tape the book to their head? #lrnchat
9:37:41 pm chrisstjohn: Q4) Post class continuous learning and knowledge sharing online updates #lrnchat
9:37:44 pm rmyardley: Q4 get the masses to exchange real stories of what they do and what they have learned #lrnchat
9:37:49 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What are some creative ways, in a mass approach, to make training stick? #lrnchat
9:37:53 pm kasey428: Q4) Stories, good stories. If you can weave what the learner needs to know in story…it can stick. #lrnchat
9:37:53 pm JaneBozarth: RT @Quinnovator: pre-testing for delta is an evil that I want to terminate with extreme prejudice #lrnchat
9:37:54 pm hjarche: @kristineshaheen cover your @$$ #lrnchat
9:38:08 pm minutebio: Q4) Make it relevant, fun, and a dab of challenge #lrnchat
9:38:13 pm cellodav: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What are some creative ways, in a mass approach, to make training stick? #lrnchat
9:38:26 pm JaneBozarth: Q4) What are some creative ways, in a mass approach, to make training stick? #lrnchat
9:38:28 pm rmyardley: Q4 authenticity and context are key to telling stories that have impact #lrnchat
9:38:31 pm joewehr: All Learning Is Self-Directed #lrnchat
9:38:35 pm xpconcept: Attempting to stop (lazily constructed) post-test as well in favor of gating activities. Post test becomes evaluation cop-out. #lrnchat
9:38:36 pm SnoozyMeg: @chrisstjohn I agree..work toward building an “experience” not just a one-time event #lrnchat
9:38:39 pm janet_frg: RT @chrisstjohn: Q4) Post class continuous learning and knowledge sharing online updates << Agreed! #lrnchat
9:38:47 pm TerrenceWing: Integrate the learners into every step of the process. And I mean every #lrnchat
9:38:50 pm minutebio: Q4) Add a cyclops to any course and it will fly #lrnchat
9:38:56 pm kristineshaheen: Fair enough. Things should have purpose. @Dave_Ferguson #lrnchat
9:38:57 pm spotlearning: Q4) Leverage self-reflection in a soc lrng context to connect learning to realistic, relevant experiences lrnrs have/may have. #lrnchat
9:38:58 pm kelly_smith01: Q4) A Saber saw – Cut course into “useable” chuncks – learners select chucks w/some direction #lrnchat
9:39:23 pm Quinnovator: Q4) deeper ID, engaging hearts as well as minds, new (problem-based, service-learning, constructivist) pedagogies #lrnchat
9:39:35 pm JaneBozarth: @kristineshaheen Cover Your …. Self. #lrnchat
9:39:44 pm cellodav: Q4 duct tape #lrnchat
9:39:46 pm TerrenceWing: Training optional Learning mandatory #lrnchat
9:39:47 pm rmyardley: Q4 some of our best stories are buried in email trails won’t it be great when the tools we use extract the gold #lrnchat
9:39:54 pm Quinnovator: RT @kasey428: Q4) Stories, good stories. If you can weave what the learner needs to know in story…it can stick. #lrnchat
9:40:00 pm Dave_Ferguson: In planning activities, see how little you can say/present up front. Provide problem & resources. Let participants self-debrief… #lrnchat
9:40:03 pm chrisstjohn: RT @Quinnovator: Q4) deeper ID, engaging hearts as well as minds, new (problem-based, service-learning, constructivist) pedagogies #lrnchat
9:40:04 pm minutebio: RT @spotlearning: Leverage self-reflection in soc lrng context 2 connect learning 2 realistic, relevant expriences lrnrs hv/may hv #lrnchat
9:40:15 pm johnYSchen: Q4) Make it the learning experience comfortable but unexpected, as @Thiagi would say it needs to Jolt #lrnchat
9:40:17 pm Dave_Ferguson: …then reinforce, build, tie known to new like crazy. #lrnchat
9:40:20 pm sahana2802: RT @Quinnovator: RT @kasey428: Q4) Stories, good stories. If you can weave what the learner needs to know in story…it can stick. #lrnchat
9:40:29 pm Quinnovator: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Making training stick. #1: org/mgrs/trainers must accept can’t make people learn, but can hinder learning. #lrnchat
9:40:33 pm billcush: Every training session has 1 or 2 (at least some) who don’t need to be there.RT @hjarche: We allowed pilots to test out of training #lrnchat
9:40:33 pm cammybean: Q4) Challenge, provoke, inspire, incite, ignite — through stories, questions, examples, reflection, conversation… #lrnchat
9:40:34 pm hjarche: @joewehr In 1 room school I paid attention to what was happening in the older grades, so I was never bored #lrnchat
9:41:02 pm MariaOD: Q4: Tie it to individual performance/incentives. #lrnchat
9:41:03 pm kristineshaheen: @JaneBozarth @quinnovator Fortunately I yet have no knowledge of Delta measurements… is this something plaguelike? #lrnchat
9:41:06 pm kelly_smith01: Q4) Deliver chuncks of learing (of mass approach) at time of need #lrnchat
9:41:11 pm Dave_Ferguson: Also: make every C-level officer go through every formal trning program in hi/her fiefdom. #lrnchat
9:41:12 pm spotlearning: RT @cammybean: Q4) Challenge, provoke, inspire, incite, ignite — through stories, questions, examples, reflection, conversation… #lrnchat
9:41:31 pm sahana2802: RT @Quinnovator: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Making training stick. #1: org/mgrs/trainers must accept can’t make people learn, but can hinder learning. #lrnchat
9:41:34 pm JaneBozarth: Q4 work with them in the spaces between the formal learning events, make supvs responsible for performance, follow-up- something #lrnchat
9:41:36 pm cammybean: Q4) Keep it short and sharp. Less is more. #lrnchat
9:41:38 pm reward75: Q4) Creative? Hmmm, let’s try… be relevant, help improve the quality/quantity of work, and b easily accessible afterwards #lrnchat
9:41:39 pm marciamarcia: @Quinnovator Ample exmpls where delta works well when done for learners benefit. “I know these 5 things, I don’t know these 4.” #lrnchat
9:41:39 pm kasey428: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Also: make every C-level officer go through every formal trning program in hi/her fiefdom. #lrnchat
9:41:42 pm Quinnovator: RT @chrisstjohn: Q4) Post class continuous learning and knowledge sharing online updates #lrnchat
9:41:46 pm rmyardley: RT @cammybean: Q4) Challenge, provoke, inspire, incite, ignite — through stories, questions, examples, reflection, conversation… #lrnchat
9:41:47 pm billcush: Q4) Make training stick: tough one…repetition and follow-up are key ingredients. #lrnchat
9:41:48 pm JoelFoner: Q4) How to make training stick? A4) Make sure learners get something of personal value from achieving. End of story🙂 #lrnchat
9:42:05 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Also: make every C-level officer go through every formal trning program in hi/her fiefdom. (twice to verify) #lrnchat
9:42:14 pm cammybean: RT @billcush: Q4) Make training stick: tough one…repetition and follow-up are key ingredients. #lrnchat
9:42:15 pm TerrenceWing: Then we can’t play victim RT @visualrinse @chrisstjohn hmm. Marketing and creative gets cut at least as hard in many businesses. #lrnchat
9:42:20 pm SnoozyMeg: Q4 – creating an environment of trust where people can be open and honest – better dialogue will stick.. #lrnchat
9:42:21 pm xpconcept: Q4) cycle real world activities into campaigns; leverage people MORE than tech. #lrnchat
9:42:35 pm MariaOD: RT @kelly_smith01 Q4) Deliver chuncks of learing (of mass approach) at time of need #lrnchat< but that’s so informal! How do we track?
9:42:36 pm rmyardley: RT @JoelFoner Make sure learners get something of personal value from achieving. End of story🙂 #lrnchat
9:42:37 pm JaneBozarth: Send them to community where others talk about their learning/dev @insynctraining’s facebook group for course grads is fab example #lrnchat
9:42:49 pm cellodav: RT @cammybean: Q4) Keep it short and sharp. Less is more. #lrnchat but make it habitual
9:42:52 pm minutebio: Q4) Hmm, make it relevant… back to question 1 #lrnchat
9:42:55 pm JoelFoner: A4b) …and since we know retention on first pass is 20%-ish, don’t assume one time through is all it takes for mastery. #lrnchat
9:42:56 pm hjarche: Q4) How to make training stick? A4) Use a glue gun #lrnchat
9:42:59 pm Quinnovator: @marciamarcia I mean: “before training X, after Y, therefore training good”. Blech. Shouldn’t have if know don’t need! #lrnchat
9:43:00 pm Dave_Ferguson: @billcush Agree, tho’ I’d stress “repetition” doesn’t mean “read the PPT text twice out loud.”😉 #lrnchat
9:43:12 pm cellodav: RT @billcush: Q4) Make training stick: tough one…repetition and follow-up are key ingredients. #lrnchat
9:43:14 pm SnoozyMeg: Q4 Make it personal…make personal connections #lrnchat
9:43:20 pm PhilMcCreight: Ask participants to create contract w/ spv @lrnchat: Q4) What are some creative ways, in a mass approach, to make training stick? #lrnchat
9:43:24 pm cammybean: Q4) Use humor. Turn things upside down. Make it worth repeating. #lrnchat
9:43:25 pm kelly_smith01: RT @minutebio: Q4) Hmm, make it relevant… back to question 1 #lrnchat
9:43:36 pm Quinnovator: @kristineshaheen very plaguelike, contaminated by contact ( apparently), very hard to extinguish😉 #lrnchat
9:43:39 pm rmyardley: RT @JaneBozarth: Send them to community where others talk about their learning/dev #lrnchat
9:43:42 pm kristineshaheen: Q4) Practise, practise, practise. #lrnchat
9:43:47 pm JaneBozarth: RT @minutebio: Q4) Hmm, make it relevant… back to question 1 #lrnchat
9:43:56 pm minutebio: RT @cammybean: Q4) Use humor. Turn things upside down. Make it worth repeating. #lrnchat
9:44:07 pm cellodav: RT @hjarche: Q4) How to make training stick? A4) Use a glue gun #lrnchat
9:44:09 pm oxala75: RT @Quinnovator: @marciamarcia I mean: “before training X, after Y, therefore training good”. Blech. Shouldn’t have if know don’t need! #lrnchat
9:44:09 pm everyselearning: @JaneBozarth I wd love to structure a facebook pg like that. Do you have any examples? Can I take a peek? #lrnchat
9:44:18 pm billcush: How about 3 times?🙂 RT @Dave_Ferguson: @billcush Agree, tho’ “repetition” doesn’t mean “read the PPT text twice out loud.”😉 #lrnchat
9:44:26 pm rmyardley: Q4 build expert communities linked with learning communities. They will learn from eachother #lrnchat
9:44:34 pm cammybean: Q4) Make it stick? Lather, rinse, repeat. #lrnchat
9:44:50 pm lirons: RT @lirons: @kristineshaheen Disciplined serendipity is learning that sticks. #lrnchat
9:44:53 pm TerrenceWing: Storytelling, gaming, engagement. Great learning happens when you don’t even realize you’ve been trained #lrnchat
9:45:06 pm kelly_smith01: RT @cammybean: Q4) Make it stick? Lather, rinse, repeat. #lrnchat
9:45:06 pm kristineshaheen: Q4) How large is a large group? #lrnchat
9:45:06 pm Quinnovator: RT @cammybean: Q4) Use humor. Turn things upside down. Make it worth repeating. #lrnchat
9:45:26 pm roninchef: @cammybean Little bites or Amuse-bouche. That is a style of training I can get behind. It also preps them for the main course. #lrnchat
9:45:26 pm hjarche: Q4) practice + appropriate feedback + practice etc #lrnchat
9:45:37 pm oxala75: @cammybean you know, i’m a big fan of humor and levity in elearning, but in some hands the idea of humor is…not humorous. #lrnchat
9:45:45 pm gminks: wouldn’t that wash it out?🙂 RT @cammybean: Q4) Make it stick? Lather, rinse, repeat. #lrnchat
9:45:51 pm Quinnovator: RT @cammybean: Q4) Make it stick? Lather, rinse, repeat. #lrnchat Being able to perform is Mandatory All else is Secondary
9:46:00 pm cammybean: Q4) If it’s online, make sure it looks like a place you want to be. Visual design matters. #lrnchat
9:46:06 pm reward75: In this day an age of Google and Wikipedia, does knowledge need to stick? #lrnchat
9:46:07 pm Dave_Ferguson: @oxala75 Tragedy’s easy, comedy’s hard. #lrnchat
9:46:09 pm billcush: Q4) To make training stick: Get the managers to not only attend…but talk to teams before training about why its so important. #lrnchat
9:46:16 pm JaneBozarth: @everyselearning Facebook group InSyncTraining open membership. Mostly grads –their courses in synchronous facilitation & design #lrnchat
9:46:19 pm rmyardley: Q4 Master-apprentice but now the master doesn’t need to be close to be looking over your shoulder #lrnchat
9:46:22 pm cellodav: RT @cammybean: Q4) Use humor. Turn things upside down. Make it worth repeating. #lrnchat
9:46:26 pm Quinnovator: RT @TerrenceWing: …Great learning happens when you don’t even realize you’ve been trained #lrnchat U were curious
9:47:11 pm leadmusicpic: gotta slide out as rest up form teaching everyone about change today, nite everyone, time to prep for mtg about new tech learn opp #lrnchat
9:47:13 pm JaneBozarth: @billcush @dave_ferguson But if they have a handout and see it on the screen AND i read it to them, is that 3 times? #lrnchat
9:47:17 pm oxala75: @Dave_Ferguson ha! sounds like you must have been lurking around my office today. #lrnchat
9:47:19 pm Quinnovator: RT @oxala75 you know, i’m a big fan of humor and levity in elearning, but in some hands the idea of humor is…not humorous. #lrnchat could this be viral learning?
9:47:54 pm joewehr: RT @kelly_smith01: Q4) Deliver chuncks of learing (of mass approach) at time of need #lrnchat > Make so they’re available when needed
9:48:07 pm cammybean: @oxala75 Yeah, humor is tricky… #lrnchat
9:48:20 pm Quinnovator: RT @reward75: In this day an age of Google and Wikipedia, does knowledge need to stick? #lrnchat < or, rather, what DOES need to stick?
9:48:22 pm jenilsson: RT @reward75: In this day an age of Google and Wikipedia, does knowledge need to stick? #lrnchat Knowledge? No. Skills? yes.
9:48:36 pm billcush: An interesting book on this…Total Engagement, which is on my list. @Seriosity RT @TerrenceWing: Storytelling, gaming, engagement. #lrnchat
9:48:41 pm chrisstjohn: RT @TerrenceWing: …Great learning happens when you don’t even realize you’ve been trained. desire to learn
9:50:59 pm tonya_simmons: @reward75 sure, but in a time crunch isn’t it just easier to know and be able to perform #lrnchat
9:51:01 pm oxala75: @Dave_Ferguson well, i haven’t yet come across the Patch Adams of distance learning. #lrnchat
9:51:01 pm kasey428: RT @Dave_Ferguson: But humor or just enjoyable attraction can arise from relevant context that has value in eyes of participants. #lrnchat
9:51:03 pm Quinnovator: @Dave_Ferguson tjoml ot #lrnchat
9:51:05 pm Dave_Ferguson: @gminks You have no idea how non-techie I am. #lrnchat
9:51:10 pm kristineshaheen: @Dave_Ferguson Rmmm… I like prizes. Also stickers. Scented markers are always winners. #lrnchat
9:51:11 pm joewehr: What should be tracked/measured is individual performance If satisfactory, knowledge exists If not, leraning is needed #lrnchat
9:51:11 pm johnYSchen: Provide development in skills/knowledge they need now but also areas they are interested to allow them to grow beyond current needs #lrnchat
9:51:21 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links & requests (or shameless plugs) welcome, too. #lrnchat
9:51:28 pm cammybean: @Dave_Ferguson BTW, I’m a tomato. #lrnchat
9:51:44 pm TerrenceWing: All learning activities should be held in a warm climate. #lrnchat
9:51:49 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Dave_Ferguson: I am NOT a fan of “fun” sprinkled over learning like pixie dust (clown noses, loud noises, what veg are you). #lrnchat
9:51:59 pm JaneBozarth: RT @Dave_Ferguson: I am NOT a fan of “fun” sprinkled over learning like pixie dust (clown noses, loud noises, what veg are you). #lrnchat
9:52:11 pm reward75: @tonya_simmons I say yes, Mgmt says cheaper to give them a script #lrnchat
9:52:14 pm JoelFoner: @marciamarcia No, I don’t. I guess maybe I haven’t run into “bad pre-testing” – having trouble imaginging what that looks like. #lrnchat
9:52:15 pm billcush: You’d think managers would jump at the chance to do this. RT @JaneBozarth: @billcush Q4 and recruit managers as cotrainers #lrnchat
9:52:21 pm Quinnovator: @Dave_Ferguson think it’s humor that highlights the intrinsic nonsensicalness of what we’re trying to remedy #lrnchat
9:52:39 pm kristineshaheen: Qwrap) Toronto professional unemployed after tomorrow, seeking more experience in Learning in a leading organization. #CSTD #lrnchat
9:52:41 pm marciamarcia: RT @gminks: Knowledge does need to stick, along w ability to retain and apply knowledge to new domains quickly #lrnchat
9:52:58 pm TerrenceWing: @chrisstjohn If it worked you don’t need to go back for more #lrnchat
9:53:01 pm Quinnovator: RT @cammybean: @Dave_Ferguson BTW, I’m a tomato. #lrnchat < anything I would say would only get me in trouble
9:53:08 pm cellodav: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links & requests (or shameless plugs) welcome, too. #lrnchat
9:53:10 pm tonya_simmons: @reward75 if I had to look up how to use InDesign everytime I designed a page, I would have never made deadline (frmer journalist) #lrnchat
9:53:10 pm rmyardley: Are we talking facts or knowledge? RT @reward75: In age of Google and Wikipedia, does knowledge need to stick? #lrnchat
9:53:16 pm spotlearning: Q4) so…even with Google, you need the knowledge of relevant commands to stick; knowledge will always be *part* of learning. #lrnchat
9:53:24 pm Dave_Ferguson: @cammybean You certainly are. #lrnchat
9:53:25 pm kristineshaheen: Qwrap) Two modules into Diploma in Adult Education. Webinar, seminar, reference writing and some design experience. #lrnchat
9:53:31 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links & requests (or shameless plugs) welcome, too. #lrnchat when we learn something fun we share
9:54:39 pm tgrevatt: @sheila_gh http://tweetchat.com is a great way to follow a real-time twitter chat, we use it for #lrnchat – nice way to view the stream
9:54:50 pm kristineshaheen: Qwrap) Lots of admin experience, willing to Coordinate / Administrate if bundled with needs analysis / design / facilitation work. #lrnchat
9:54:53 pm JaneBozarth: Certain pixie dust speaker on the conf. circuit– trainers love it– crowds out the door #lrnchat
9:55:09 pm TerrenceWing: Yikes RT @tonya_simmons: All learning activities should be held in a warm climate – agree its 3 degrees , I want 2 LEARN something #lrnchat
9:55:10 pm xpconcept: Steve Flowers, Assistant to the apprentice, USCG Perf. Tech. Ctr. Yorktown, VA. Very experienced noob. #lrnchat
9:55:12 pm JaneBozarth: @minutebio I’ve had good luck with it. Depends on the content. #lrnchat
9:55:19 pm mojotillett: @Quinnovator viral learning? wouldn’t want it to spread! We need to control it! #lrnchat >when we learn something fun we share it
9:55:21 pm cellodav: #lrnchat WrapUp: David – Sudbury ON musician teacher DE coordinator duct tape connoisseur
9:55:24 pm reward75: @rmyardley What would your distinction btw the two? #lrnchat
9:55:29 pm jenilsson: Qwrap) MN Instructional designer. Mostly lurking and learning. #lrnchat
9:55:51 pm billcush: Qwrap) Bill Cushard. Charlotte, NC. Sales, #SCRM Training, and other performance improvement initiatives.#lrnchat
9:55:52 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman, e-Learning Designer/Developer, Baltimore, MD #lrnchat
9:55:57 pm cammybean: Cammy Bean, Kineo, Massachusetts, spreading pixie dust wherever I go, clowning around in eLearning for the past 15+ years #lrnchat
9:56:01 pm mojotillett: @Quinnovator @mojotillett viral learning? We wouldn’t want it to spread! We need to control it! #lrnchat > also we only control content
9:56:04 pm rmyardley: Bye everyone I’m off thanks for another great chat. At least I can smile as unlike most I only have 3 hours to go to the weekend #lrnchat
9:56:05 pm Dave_Ferguson: Learning/perf imp consultant, cheerfully glib, good w/ analogy; DC area eying return to Nova Scotia, hoping to collab w Canadians. #lrnchat
9:56:10 pm marciamarcia: @gminks And ability to mashup your bits of knowledge w/others bits to create or do something better. #lrnchat
9:56:15 pm JoelFoner: ReIntro: Coach, project mgr, agile certified, process consultation, software development, social media, bus/edu virtual world exp. #lrnchat
9:56:18 pm spotlearning: QWrap) Joe Fournier, in Lexington, KY. Looking for cure for Learningitis…why can’t I get enough of this stuff? #lrnchat
9:56:29 pm kristineshaheen: Thanks very much, Terrance. I’m actually quite excited to have some time to network, study, paint, read, volunteer. @TerrenceWing #lrnchat
9:56:43 pm joewehr: RT @Quinnovator: @mojotillett viral learning? We wouldn’t want it to spread! We need to control it! #lrnchat > Tongue in cheek? Hope so
9:56:48 pm kasey428: Kay Wood, learner,ISD & performance consultant, who misses her lrnchat pals…signing off from the DC area! #lrnchat
9:56:50 pm kristineshaheen: Qwrap) @TerrenceWing LinkedIn profile: http://bit.ly/c9prP0 #lrnchat
9:56:51 pm ShaSha16: RT @TerrenceWing Ooops forgot the link to “Twitter 4 the Learning Pro” http://liquidlearn.com/?p=224 #lrnchat
9:56:52 pm cammybean: Check out Instructional Design Live tomorrow at noon eastern — we’ll be talking to Charles Reigeluth http://edtechtalk.com #lrnchat
9:56:55 pm gminks: Gina, Massachusetts, back to homework now. #lrnchat
9:57:08 pm mojotillett: @Quinnovator viral learning? We wouldn’t want it to spread! We need to control it! #lrnchat > also we only control content
9:57:22 pm oxala75: Qwrap) craig wiggins, cham-peen o’ interactive storytelling in the windtunnel of federal govt distance learning. #lrnchat
9:57:24 pm TerrenceWing: Terrence Wing – Liquid Learn, Los Angeles, CA- Leadership and Management Development #lrnchat
9:57:29 pm roninchef: My name is Mason, I am a eLearning Dev in Maine and I am celery. Good night everyone, I missed you all! #lrnchat
9:57:35 pm chrisstjohn: Shameless plugg for great June conf! Some of the best speakers ever! http://bit.ly/2pac2R #lrnchat
9:57:35 pm hjarche: RT @cammybean: Check out Instructional Design Live tomorrow at noon EST well be talking to Charles Reigeluth http://edtechtalk.com #lrnchat
9:57:36 pm sahana2802: Sahana, love to learn, reflect, read, ID from India #lrnchat
9:57:40 pm gminks: plz let me dream🙂 RT @Dave_Ferguson: @gminks You have no idea how non-techie I am. #lrnchat
9:57:42 pm reward75: Regina Ward, NYC, learning about all things learning… sometimes shaking them up too🙂 #lrnchat
9:58:00 pm marciamarcia: @JaneBozarth Last 2 days spent at 100% pixiedustfree event (#wire) & can attest to the fact it can be done beautifully #lrnchat
9:58:24 pm JaneBozarth: COOL! RT @cammybean: Instructional Design Live tomorrow at noon EST we’ll be talking to Charles Reigeluth http://edtechtalk.com #lrnchat
9:58:30 pm kelly_smith01: Nite all #lrnchat
9:58:31 pm Quinnovator: @joewehr definitely tongue in cheek (think Foghorn Leghorn: “I say, that’s a joke”) #lrnchat
9:58:36 pm spotlearning: @cammybean Thanks for the tip. I’ll check it out! #lrnchat
9:58:39 pm minutebio: RT @JaneBozarth: ive had gd luck w/ it. Dpnds on the content. #lrnchat // have had ups & dwns w/ it. In past dealt w understaffed bank mgrs
9:58:47 pm rmyardley: @reward75 Google can serve up the answer to a question in 0.027 seconds but that’s not knowledge #lrnchat
9:58:49 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @hjarche @cammybean: Check out Instructional Design Live tomorrow at 12 EST talking to Charles Reigeluth http://bit.ly/RyQYE #lrnchat
9:58:54 pm cammybean: @kasey428 G’night Kay! #lrnchat
9:59:06 pm Quinnovator: RT @chrisstjohn: Shameless plug for great June conf! Some of the best speakers ever! http://bit.ly/2pac2R #lrnchat < blush!🙂
9:59:07 pm ADDIE_ID: ADDIE, Death Valley, hangin’ with Elvis. #lrnchat
9:59:11 pm johnYSchen: Performance Improvement in the workplace in San Francisco, April 19-22, 2010 by @ispi1962 http://bit.ly/9fAPd0 #lrnchat
9:59:29 pm cammybean: @cammybean Very cool. Legends of Instructional Design! #lrnchat
9:59:45 pm rmyardley: @reward75 knowledge is being able to use facts and experience to address a new situation #lrnchat
9:59:52 pm tonya_simmons: Tonya Goth Simmons, production designer, Phasient Learning Technologies, Ames IA http://www.phasent.com – night all #lrnchat
9:59:53 pm lrnchat: Thank you for joining us on #lrnchat. Pls invite others next week. If you blog about this, let us know! http://j.mp/lrnchat
10:00:23 pm MariaOD: Maria/Col,OH-OD specialist 4 a public library by day-sleep starved grad student by nite -glad 2 B a part of the brain trust that is #lrnchat
10:00:56 pm Quinnovator: thanks all you wonderful #lrnchat people! Always a hoot, always a learning
10:01:18 pm reward75: @rmyardley interesting… I’ll have to ponder that. Thanks for the food for thought! #lrnchat
10:01:25 pm lrnchat: On behalf of the #lrnchat (nighttime) moderators @quinnovator @koreenolbrish @moehlert @janebozarth @marciamarcia thanks for joining us!

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