Transcript 25 February 2010 (early)

9:30:49 am lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been? Q0 warm up after the rules.
9:31:54 am mellissalast: Training for the masses huh? Blended learning could help touch the masses. #lrnchat
9:32:01 am bschlenker: Dear non-elearning twitter peeps – lrnchat is starting and that means a lot of tweets from me…sorry #lrnchat
9:32:05 am simbeckhampson: @architela have a drink handy in case of forfeits #lrnchat
9:32:10 am InSyncEU: Looking forward to my first lrnchat… #lrnchat/
9:32:13 am LearnNuggets: Hiya All! Got a few moments to join. Won’t be able to stay too long, but I’ll catch it tonight as well #lrnchat
9:32:21 am neillasher: Hello all, well for one I steer clear of one size fits all solutions, they do not work… #lrnchat
9:32:23 am mrch0mp3rs: It’s begun!!!!!!! #lrnchat
9:32:43 am hamtra: lrnchat drinking game at work. A whole new experience. #lrnchat
9:32:45 am lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1) Introduce yourself. (We do this again at the end). Location? Focus? Fave topics?
9:32:54 am simbeckhampson: @InSyncEU welcome and enjoy… #lrnchat
9:33:17 am architela: We need 1-size-fits-many and have room for configuration and personalisation. #lrnchat
9:33:21 am JaneBozarth: Followers: dropping into daytime #lrnchat for a few minutes but will try not to flood…until tonight…
9:33:32 am simbeckhampson: @hamtra its almost the weekend🙂 #lrnchat
9:33:55 am LearnNuggets: Q0) Kevin Thorn – LMS Admin & elearn dev mgr for AZ in Memphis, TN. Freelance graphics & illustrator and all around geek! #lrnchat
9:33:55 am mrch0mp3rs: Aaron Silvers, Chicago, IL. Constructive Heretic with a Big Beard. #lrnchat
9:34:09 am JaneBozarth: Trainer/ID person, author, Dr. of Learnin’ Stuff, Raleigh NC USA #lrnchat Here for 45 minutes-ish
9:34:26 am LandDDave: Hi All. David from NY, Training Director for a NYC-based Bank. #lrnchat
9:34:33 am TerrenceWing: Terrence Wing – Los Angeles, CA: Leadership and Management Dev – http://www.liquidlearn.com #lrnchat
9:34:41 am architela: @simbeckhampson Just a cuppa tea… #lrnchat
9:34:49 am lrnchat: 3) When writing, complete thoughts help followers outside chat learn from you. #lrnchat
9:34:49 am JaneBozarth: I am also world’s oldest millenial, and keep celebrities alive on Thursdays.#lrnchat
9:34:53 am lrnchat: 2) [try to] stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 20 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
9:34:56 am smanning2: Hi I am Susan Manning, online instructor in the Chicago area, and not sure if I am in the right place. #lrnchat/
9:34:56 am hamtra: Tracy Hamilton, Newmarket, ON. ID at health care facility. Trying to get the ‘monkeys” to try elearning. #lrnchat
9:35:02 am c4lpt: Jane Hart, near Bath in England, Social Learning consultant, anything SoMe or SoLearn #lrnchat
9:35:05 am LearnNuggets: @mrch0mp3rs Heretic with a beard…sounds like a sequel to Harry Potter! #lrnchat
9:35:11 am moehlert: Well hello to the new #lrnchat ! Be great to hear from some of the folks I met at #LTUK10 here.
9:35:12 am TheForumCorp: Excuse multiple tweets over next hour or so … #lrnchat -ing with strangers #lrnchat #yam
9:35:13 am neillasher: your moderators today are… @mrch0mp3rs @c4lpt @bschlenker and myself , welcome to #lrnchat
9:35:21 am InSyncEU: @InSyncEU David Smith, Leeds Yorkshire, Training Trainers to be better in the Synchronous environment #lrnchat
9:35:33 am JaneBozarth: Big news:final MS for “Social Media for Trainers” went to pubisher this week! Watch for it out this summer. #lrnchat
9:35:36 am JudithELS: To all who follow me & aren’t in learning & development as I am about to through my hat into the #lrnchat ring!
9:35:37 am britz: Mark Britz, Syracuse, NY, ID, Twitt-virus free for 24hrs now, scored 86 on millenial quiz🙂 #lrnchat
9:35:58 am mbmessner: MB Messner. North Canton, OH. Instructional Designer for eStarkState (interested in online learning, Web 2.0, etc) #lrnchat
9:36:07 am TheForumCorp: Actually, that’ll be @sifowler doing the #lrnchat .. he needs to work out how to use tweetdeck properly!
9:36:08 am simbeckhampson: Simbeck-Hampson (Paul), Consulting, Learnscaping, Bavaria, http://simbeckhampson.ning.com/ #lrnchat
9:36:14 am LearnNuggets: Followers: Trying lrnchat during the day…at work. Will see how this goes. Excuse the random tweets #lrnchat
9:36:19 am bbetts: Ben Betts, Oxford, UK: Ops Director E-learning development company and researcher at Warwick Uni #lrnchat
9:36:22 am neillasher: Neil Lasher, learning evangelist and Instructional Design specialist in London #lrnchat
9:36:22 am lrnchat: 4) Remember to include the #lrnchat in all posts. http://tweetchat.com http://tweetgrid.com & http://twubs.com/lrnchat work well.
9:36:29 am TerrenceWing: Glad to hear RT @britz: Mark Britz, Syracuse, NY, ID, Twitt-virus free for 24hrs now, scored 86 on millenial quiz🙂 #lrnchat
9:36:30 am visualrinse: Chad Udell – Flash and Web Developer, interested in mobile Peoria. IL Just down the road from the Beard. #lrnchat
9:36:36 am bschlenker: Brent Schlenker – Arizona – elearndev.blogspot.com – DevLearn – mLearnCon – Learning Solutions – I just LOVE this eLearning STUFF! #lrnchat
9:36:37 am LandDDave: @c4lpt I went to Bath for my honeymoon years ago… I;d love to go back! #lrnchat
9:36:41 am JudithELS: Hi Judith Christian-Carter, sm bis owner and ID’er. One size never has to my knowledge fitted all. #lrnchat/
9:36:46 am Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, learning technology strategist, games/mobile/adaptive/etc, status quo malcontent Walnut Creek CA #lrnchat
9:36:54 am architela: Nancy Weitz. UK. e-learning: higher ed, CPD, public sector. #lrnchat
9:37:00 am hamtra: @lrnchat….that was for my benefit right…🙂 #lrnchat
9:37:08 am simbeckhampson: @JaneBozarth Hi Jane – great news, that’s one for the reading list🙂 #lrnchat
9:37:08 am lrnchat: 5) Periodically RT questions so others outside #lrnchat know what you’re talking about & they can chime in too.
9:37:17 am bbetts: See: Grand Engineering challenges http://bit.ly/9JsTLk – 5. Advance Personalised Learning – one-size fits all is not a part of it #lrnchat
9:37:22 am simbeckhampson: @architela I love a good cuppa #lrnchat
9:37:22 am kkapp: Karl Kapp, Professor of Instructional Technology, Bloomsburg Unviersity in Bloomsburg PA, #lrnchat
9:37:27 am sifowler: Simon Fowler, learning R&D at the Forum Corp, Boston MA (but I’m a Brit). Love technology, and people. #lrnchat
9:37:33 am Quinnovator: lurking in on EU #lrnchat, may be bit more frequent tweets
9:37:48 am britz: @TerrenceWing yes, good to be SL “healthy” again #lrnchat
9:37:55 am LearnNuggets: Welcome friends and all who’s on the other side of the world! #lrnchat
9:37:57 am lrnchat: 6) On #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm & irony, welcome though. Really.
9:38:13 am bschlenker: @visualrinse Hello! got your mLearnCon proposal – good stuff! We should talk more #lrnchat
9:38:26 am kkapp: @JaneBozarth Congrats, I know the feeling of relief! #lrnchat
9:38:26 am Logicearth: Peter Carlin, Belfast, Learning Services Provider, blended learning in the ICT Sector, learning for enhancing technology rollouts #lrnchat
9:38:29 am JoelFoner: Coach, project manager, agile certified, process consultation, software development, social media, virtual world mtg & event mgmt. #LRNchat
9:38:40 am c4lpt: @LandDDave Come and visit! #lrnchat
9:39:01 am lrnchat: 7) 10 min before end, tell us if you need anything from the other #lrnchat participants. Time to reintroduce yourself, too. Links welcome.
9:39:17 am JoelFoner: To my followers… I’ll be in the #LRNchat Twitter group chat for a bit… feel free to follow or join in.
9:39:17 am dmccraine: I’m getting real-time search results at TweetGrid http://tweetgrid.com/ #lrnchat
9:39:20 am jjalonso: Learning technologist and all around geek #LRNCHAT
9:39:24 am britz: Followers – a few tweets of #lrnchat relevance heading your way – brace yourself for about 30 min #lrnchat
9:39:26 am simbeckhampson: Lots of familiar faces🙂 #lrnchat
9:39:31 am mellissalast: @JaneBozarth Congratulations! That is great news! #lrnchat
9:39:34 am DonaldHTaylor: Don Taylor Learning and Skills Group chairman. Can’t contribute much today #lrnchat
9:39:43 am hamtra: Liking this at work better. I’ve got 2 monitors, lrnchat on one, work on the other. #lrnchat
9:39:56 am lrnchat: Q0 (our weekly #lrnchat welcome) What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
9:40:21 am kelly_smith01: Do they call it “lurking” on the other side of the pond? I am multi-tasking lurking at early #lrnchat.
9:40:39 am vahva: To my followers… I’ll be in the #LRNchat Twitter group chat for a bit… feel free to follow or join in.
9:40:51 am LearnNuggets: @hamtra Ditto! Got two monitors, headphones listening to webinar, lrnchat, email, and fiddling with animation in Flash.🙂 #lrnchat
9:40:57 am mrch0mp3rs: Q0) I learned how to do conference chatting in Skype. Also, really digging the discovery of sharing folders in Google Docs. #lrnchat
9:41:08 am simbeckhampson: @kelly_smith01 Lurking is cool, with intent is even better… #lrnchat
9:41:15 am hamtra: It’s a simple, but I learned how to copy the format of an object to more then one additional object. Thx to @jeanettebrooks #lrnchat
9:41:29 am JaneBozarth: Learned more about different kinds of minds from Temple Grandin/ TED 2010 talk #lrnchat
9:41:31 am bschlenker: RT @hamtra: Liking this at work better. I’ve got 2 monitors, lrnchat on one, work on the other. #lrnchat (Yes we gave up steering wheel). #lrnchat
9:48:24 am hamtra: very true @Quinnovator. #lrnchat
9:48:35 am espnguyen: Agree RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q1: I think it’s often because decision makers in the business still think of training as a check-in-the-box. #lrnchat
9:48:36 am OhMeadhbh: @JoelFoner “one size fits all solution” == “product” (i.e. – it means you’re selling a product, not a solution.) #LRNchat
9:48:38 am LauraMattis: RT @simbeckhampson: RT @Quinnovator: q1) because resources are thin, imagination is limited, and systems are complex #lrnchat
9:48:47 am sifowler: Q1 because consistency across a whole org brings efficiency #lrnchat (I’m just tryin’ to put in some positives, just b’cause!)
9:48:50 am kelticray: Q0) I learned that you don’t need all the bells and whistles of technology to engage your onsite learners.#lrnchat
9:48:53 am mellissalast: I hate one-size-fits-clothes. Why would I like one-size-fits all training? #lrnchat
9:48:53 am bfchirpy: RT @JaneBozarth: FYI My answers on Q1: I think training is largely to blame. We allowed it. #lrnchat | I’m with the doc on this one.
9:48:54 am TerrenceWing: Q1) Perceived value. Decision makers need to be educated #lrnchat
9:48:57 am JaneBozarth: @TerrenceWing @bbetts YES vendor ,er, “promises” create expectations #lrnchat
9:48:59 am bschlenker: Kris, I’d like Economics of eLearning for 200 – The answer is, “Why we sheep dip the learners” #lrnchat
9:49:08 am edwsonoma: Really….? The “Man”? How about another alternative – focusing on broadly expected levels of enterprise competence? #lrnchat
9:49:14 am Mary_a_Myers: RT @OhMeadhbh: @JoelFoner “one size fits all solution” == “product” (i.e. – it means youre selling a product, not a solution.) #lrnchat
9:49:18 am sguditus: Q1) It’s the path of least resistence; also, it lets workers get the most done, though not always in the right way #lrnchat
9:49:25 am cahlan: @kkapp I’ve seen glimpses of it … maybe just not in the way I envision it. The current design paradigm is a huge factor, however #lrnchat
9:49:26 am simbeckhampson: Q1) “One size fits all” is a no brainer – and now back to work now, time = money #lrnchat
9:49:26 am Spydeesense: One size may sometimes fit all (ie intro of a new process at high level) but it’s by no means the only route or always appropriate #lrnchat
9:49:26 am TerrenceWing: RT @kelticray: Q0) I learned that you dont need all the bells and whistles of technology to engage your onsite learners.#lrnchat #lrnchat
9:49:33 am vahva: RT @OhMeadhbh: @JoelFoner “one size fits all solution” == “product” (i.e. – it means you’re selling a product, not a solution.) #LRNchat
9:49:43 am LauraMattis: So true, great analogy! RT @mellissalast: I hate one-size-fits-clothes. Why would I like one-size-fits all training? #lrnchat
9:49:48 am simbeckhampson: @LauraMattis Hi Laura… #lrnchat
9:49:50 am usablelearning: @lrnchat Julie Dirksen in Mpls, can only #lrnchat for a few minutes. q1) Training is a cost, not an investment, too often…
9:49:56 am mrch0mp3rs: Q1: Oft times the business is coming to us with the solution, before anyone’s had a chance to analyze what the problem is. #lrnchat
9:50:00 am kelticray: @TerrenceWing: Thanks. Glad to be a part of it! Nice to see you here, too. #lrnchat
9:50:07 am britz: Q1) We tend to build solutions before understanding the problem (wait? who’s we?) #lrnchat
9:50:10 am jjalonso: Q1 We can’t blame management if we are unable to explain the value, and show evidence to support it. #lrnchat
9:50:26 am vahva: RT @LauraMattis: So true, great analogy! RT @mellissalast: I hate one-size-fits-clothes. Why would I like one-size-fits all training? #lrnchat
9:50:27 am tmiket: Does 1 size fits all actually mean 1 size fits none? #lrnchat
9:50:30 am neillasher: I don’t think economy of scale has anything to do with it. It’s not hard to create different media for different groups #lrnchat
9:50:38 am kelly_smith01: Q1) Unfortunate characteristic of “push” training (one size fits all or most). #lrnchat
9:50:40 am sguditus: Q1) We should be differentiating solutions and professional development in the same way we differentiate for students. #lrnchat
9:50:41 am JaneBozarth: A lot of it also isn’t even training…just CYA ‘we read it to you” stuff #lrnchat
9:50:45 am DLHansby: #lrnchat
9:50:46 am LearnNuggets: Bummer😦 Gotta go…Elearning Network meeting at local University. Be back tonight. #lrnchat
9:50:47 am bfchirpy: Simon Bostock, saying hi to #lrnchat people, founder of Bunchberry & Fern, L & D, games and little #KM design stuff. Likes saying ‘stuff’.
9:50:47 am TerrenceWing: RT @sguditus: Q1) Its the path of least resistence; also, it lets workers get the most done, though not always in the right way #lrnchat
9:50:49 am usablelearning: That’s the perception, I mean > Training is a cost, not an investment, too often… #lrnchat
9:50:54 am c4lpt: RT @britz: Q1) We tend to build solutions before understanding the problem (wait? who’s we?) #lrnchat
9:50:56 am rickzanotti: @bschlenker wouldn’t it be great if there was an alternate twitter stream for chats? Would make sense. #lrnchat
9:51:03 am kkapp: q1) We’ve been taught to design that way…figure out large “Audience” & create something to”fit” maybe its a our issue #lrnchat
9:51:06 am neillasher: nobody ever said creating eLearning was cheap or fast, but you can get to the masses #lrnchat
9:51:13 am JoelFoner: A1: Creating exceptional training/education is resource intensive – create several for each topic more effort/cost/time. #LRNchat
9:51:26 am TerrenceWing: RT @kelly_smith01: Q1) Unfortunate characteristic of “push” training (one size fits all or most). #lrnchat
9:51:30 am jjalonso: Q1 I’m always surprised by “learning’s” inability to explain in business terms -we are our worst supported, at least from biz side #lrnchat
9:51:31 am simbeckhampson: RT @neillasher: nobody ever said creating eLearning was cheap or fast, but you can get to the masses #lrnchat
9:51:40 am mellissalast: RT @sifowler: Q1 because consistency across a whole org brings efficiency #lrnchat (I’m just tryin’ to put in some positives, just b’cause!)
9:51:42 am hamtra: Even if you had a solution that taught everyone perfectly, would the low performers still achieve as you hope? #lrnchat
9:51:45 am LandDDave: Q1) One-size-fits all solutions aren’t ideal, but are sometimes mandated by budget restrictions. #lrnchat
9:51:50 am bschlenker: @hybridkris Forgot to tell you. Yes, its okay to start hinting about that amazing project you may or may not be working on🙂 #lrnchat
9:51:51 am TerrenceWing: @rickzanotti Hey Rick. How are you? Great to see you this AM #lrnchat
9:51:55 am InSyncEU: @mrch0mp3rs Fully agree – we need to analyze problem before offer solution – could be wrong diagnosis!! #lrnchat
9:51:57 am architela: Even the term “solution” is suspect. (E-)Learning is a process. #lrnchat
9:52:04 am sifowler: Q1: one-size-fits-all creates the illusion that senior mgt have ‘done something’ to change the org #lrnchat
9:52:08 am kelleycruse: Q1, because they want to check off that x # of employees have been trained, therefore not their problem #lrnchat
9:52:18 am LandDDave: q1) I often find myself using a one-size option and adapting it, often on the fly, to the specific audience. #lrnchat
9:52:43 am TerrenceWing: RT @c4lpt: RT @britz: Q1) We tend to build solutions before understanding the problem (wait? whos we?) #lrnchat
9:52:43 am mellissalast: I think it fits some. I’d like to meet the “some”. RT @tmiket: Does 1 size fits all actually mean 1 size fits none? #lrnchat
9:52:43 am joe_deegan: RT @Neillasher: nobody ever said creating eLearning was cheap or fast, but you can get to the masses #lrnchat
9:52:50 am Mary_a_Myers: q1) i think like many things you provide the foundations and then allow people to vary/interact/use based on their choice or need #lrnchat
9:52:52 am JaneBozarth: @bfchirpy @kelly_smith01 Training has repeatedly allowed this. We just handed elearning over to vendors, now same with social media #lrnchat
9:52:54 am NancyWhite: #lrnchat – isn’t LEARNING the solution.😉 Multiple paths to the solution. The “solution” is not the solution. Oh dear. More tea please.
9:52:55 am bschlenker: We do no lack tech, and we do not lack design…we are simply waiting for the current mass culture to catch up #lrnchat
9:52:55 am britz: Q1) now that learning styles are bunk -who cares about the learner and their needs!🙂 where’s Will T? #lrnchat
9:52:58 am simbeckhampson: @architela nice notice – as opposed to a set of events. #lrnchat
9:53:10 am JoelFoner: Is it possible to create “multi-approach training” at close to one size effort/cost? #LRNchat
9:53:16 am Rueckriegel: @JoelFoner Do the masses need exceptional training/education? #LRNchat
9:53:18 am TerrenceWing: RT @kelleycruse: Q1, because they want to check off that x # of employees have been trained, therefore not their problem #lrnchat
9:53:21 am LandDDave: Q0) Just learned another thing – if you forget to include #lrnchat in the post, no one sees it!!
9:53:26 am joe_deegan: @Neillasher At least effective eLearning is not always cheap or fast. #lrnchat
9:53:26 am mbmessner: @neillasher Nobody said creating elearning was cheap or fast, but the expectation is that we do it anyway. #lrnchat
9:53:32 am kelly_smith01: Q1) I’ve found larger corps tend to push and I mean PUSH folks through one-size training #lrnchat
9:53:39 am Mary_a_Myers: q1) and then refine….. #lrnchat
9:53:41 am simbeckhampson: Old school isn’t quite there yet in many cases, they need encouragement to see beyond. #lrnchat
9:53:50 am mddube: Q1: It is a great way to get a discussion started and can be followed up to meet specific needs #lrnchat
9:53:53 am mellissalast: Good ? RT @hamtra: Even if you had a solution that taught everyone perfectly, would the low performers still achieve as you hope? #lrnchat
9:54:03 am simbeckhampson: RT @kelly_smith01: Q1) I’ve found larger corps tend to push and I mean PUSH folks through one-size training #lrnchat
9:54:04 am tmiket: Like this>RT @bschlenker: We no lack tech- we do not lack design..we are waiting for the current mass culture to catch up #lrnchat
9:54:34 am mrch0mp3rs: RT @kelly_smith01: Q1) I’ve found larger corps tend to push and I mean PUSH folks through one-size training #lrnchat
9:54:36 am vahva: Q1 we rather need to be training PEOPLE to be one size fits all – by training them to find help & discern the best tool for the job #lrnchat
9:54:40 am rickzanotti: @TerrenceWing I’m good… Oops, didn’t mean to interrupt chat…🙂 Beautiful day here! #lrnchat
9:54:43 am NancyWhite: @tuchodi Of course. Tweet chats are always better w/ chocolate and cafffeine! #lrnchat
9:54:43 am bschlenker: @kkapp But haven’t we also been designing for the individual learner? I KNOW we’ve been talking about it for ever #lrnchat
9:54:45 am simbeckhampson: @tmiket I agree with that… #lrnchat
9:54:55 am mellissalast: HA! RT @britz: Q1) now that learning styles are bunk -who cares about the learner and their needs!🙂 where’s Will T? #lrnchat
9:54:58 am TerrenceWing: OSFA is like buying a diet book & never reading it. At least u tried. We reward 4 trying instead of results. #lrnchat
9:55:06 am neillasher: @joe_deegan absolutely as long as it is effective #lrnchat
9:55:09 am vahva: RT @architela: Even the term “solution” is suspect. (E-)Learning is a process. #lrnchat
9:55:16 am hamtra: @mellissalast – yes would low performers still do poorly and therefor just try to hit the 80% that will do well. 1 size. #lrnchat
9:55:27 am Spydeesense: Rewind Q0 There are organizations who want solutions that include informal learning so yeah I’m going to talk to all of ’em #lrnchat
9:55:31 am stevenbrent: Looking forward to attending #lrnchat tonight after a long absence!
9:55:37 am simbeckhampson: If both sides of connection are not similar it just becomes a pointless exercise that de-motivates. #lrnchat
9:55:39 am hybridkris: @Neillasher What’s the old adage? Fast, cheap, good – pick two. #lrnchat
9:55:48 am kkapp: @bschlenker: We no lack tech- we dont lack design-we are waiting current mass culture to catch up.Shouldn’t wait we need to lead! #lrnchat
9:55:52 am tmiket: Maybe we need to show how to “tailor” learning to fit themselves. #lrnchat
9:55:53 am usablelearning: @lrnchat Also, sometimes it is okay – we use the term “training” too generally. Some types of learning are more worth investment #lrnchat
9:55:58 am kelticray: #lrnchat Q1) From a vendor’s perspective, we try to educate our clients to complete an assessment on their learners–sometimes they listen
9:56:16 am hamtra: RT @hybridkris: Whats the old adage? Fast, cheap, good – pick two. #lrnchat
9:56:22 am bschlenker: Reality check: most businesses are NOT in the business of educating their employees – so efficiency in training matters #lrnchat
9:56:22 am bfchirpy: Q1) Learners want portable, easy-to-explain CPD files. Better to say, “I did management 101” than some vague ‘social’ thing #lrnchat
9:56:26 am architela: 1) Either fit tool to learning or fit learning to tool. (false either/or?) #lrnchat
9:56:50 am sguditus: @hybridkris @neillasher Toyota CEO said that they’ve mixed up their priorities of safety and reliability. #lrnchat
9:56:54 am simbeckhampson: @kelticray and more often they don’t – they ask – so how much and how long will this take… #lrnchat
9:56:55 am mrch0mp3rs: This is a give a fish/teach to fish scenario. Do we scale how to learn, or do we scale one training solution for all? #lrnchat
9:56:57 am tmiket: @kelticray …and sometimes they know their learners and sometimes they don’t #lrnchat
9:56:57 am neillasher: I identified in research 6 different types of eLearner, what they will do and won’t Know your group you can hit that mass #lrnchat
9:57:07 am LandDDave: q1) With the challenges of the recent economy, one-size solutions have come back in fashion. #lrnchat
9:57:27 am Mary_a_Myers: depends to what if the elearning is about process..then you kinda want that consistency of message, no? #lrnchat
9:57:33 am JudithELS: Training/learning solutions all need to start with/include a profile of the target audience: that get’s rid of the one-size #lrnchat/
9:57:36 am bschlenker: @mellissalast I LOVE flexifit – one-size-fits-all hats. They are awesome! And they fit my big mellon😉 #lrnchat
9:57:38 am hamtra: RT @bschlenker: efficiency in training matters (seems to be the case here on some of the mandatory courses). #lrnchat
9:57:43 am mrch0mp3rs: Problem is scaling self-development requires longitudinal investment. Many orgs can’t/won’t commit. #lrnchat
9:57:44 am mellissalast: Great idea! RT @tmiket: Maybe we need to show how to “tailor” learning to fit themselves. #lrnchat
9:57:52 am JaneBozarth: RT @bschlenker: Reality check: most businessesNOT in business of educating their employees – so efficiency in training matters #lrnchat
9:57:56 am JoelFoner: Is the core problem really “one size” training, or too-large class sizes so that tweaking for indiv’s is hard? #LRNchat
9:58:04 am sifowler: Q1: One-size-fits-all wrongly conflates the GOAL of learning with the METHOD of learning #lrnchat
9:58:14 am kelleycruse: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Problem is scaling self-development requires longitudinal investment. Many orgs can’t/won’t commit. #lrnchat
9:58:18 am Rsuominen: RT @hybridkris: Whats the old adage? Fast, cheap, good – pick two. #lrnchat
9:58:27 am simbeckhampson: @LandDDave With so many free resources available now new mashups are possible to get things started #lrnchat
9:58:32 am mellissalast: RT @bschlenker: Reality check most businesses NOT in the business of educating their employees – so efficiency in training matters #lrnchat
9:58:47 am TerrenceWing: RT @sifowler: Q1: One-size-fits-all wrongly conflates the GOAL of learning with the METHOD of learning #lrnchat
9:58:55 am Mary_a_Myers: RT @Rsuominen: RT @hybridkris: Whats the old adage? Fast, cheap, good – pick two. #lrnchat
9:58:55 am neillasher: @hybridkris they call that the love triangle, great book by Vince Poscente, Age of Speed #lrnchat
9:58:58 am TerrenceWing: RT @simbeckhampson: @LandDDave With so many free resources available now new mashups are possible to get things started #lrnchat
9:59:00 am c4lpt: Q1 Many see a “course” as the only solution to a training problem – until they u/s other ways of learning, things won’t change #lrnchat
9:59:05 am JoelFoner: @Rueckriegel – not sure what you mean by this q? “Do the masses need exceptional training/education?” #LRNchat
9:59:15 am kkapp: we should design elearning with initial individual learner diagnosis &then provide content based on the results-sorta like google…#lrnchat
9:59:22 am JudithELS: Surely e-Learning is a delivery mechanism but it’s the learning solution it’s delivering which is so often questionable #lrnchat/
9:59:24 am tmiket: RT @bschlenker: Reality check most businesses NOT in the business of educating their emps efficiency in training matters #lrnchat
9:59:31 am neillasher: @sguditus but they either go too quick or can’t stop! #lrnchat
9:59:40 am vahva: RT @c4lpt: Q1 Many see a “course” as the only solution to a training problem – until they u/s other ways of learning, things won’t change #lrnchat
9:59:41 am mellissalast: Will those who need more seek out learning on their own? #lrnchat #informal
9:59:42 am kelticray: @TerrenceWing @kelleycruse:RE:Q1) If the training is working well enough, should companies be worried about reaching every learner? #lrnchat
9:59:45 am cahlan: You’re telling me we have the tech to easily create a dynamic, personalized learning experience unique to each learner? Plz share! #lrnchat
9:59:50 am LandDDave: q1) Many execs still struggle with the concept of learning. We can train our employees, but we cant learn them! #lrnchat
9:59:52 am kelly_smith01: RT @c4lpt: Q1 Many see “course” as only solution to a training problem – until they u/s other ways of learning, things wont change #lrnchat
10:00:07 am sguditus: Twitter allows educators to personalize their training and professional development – for free! #lrnchat
10:00:14 am LandDDave: RT @Rsuominen: RT @hybridkris: Whats the old adage? Fast, cheap, good – pick two. #lrnchat
10:00:26 am TerrenceWing: RT @c4lpt Many c a “course” as the only solution 2 a training problem until they u/s other ways of learning, things wont change #lrnchat
10:00:35 am Mary_a_Myers: RT @c4lpt: Q1 Many see “course” as only solution to a training problem – until they u/s other ways of learning, things wont change #lrnchat
10:00:39 am hybridkris: Reality check: most co’s are NOT in the biz of educating their employees-efficiency matters #lrnchat (via @bschlenker)RT @mddube: Q1: As a learner I will take it upon myself to learn more. Do not wait for learning to come!#lrnchat
10:02:45 am JaneBozarth: Lots of intermixing here of the words “training” and “learning” ….#lrnchat
10:03:08 am simbeckhampson: Companies need to get the bigger picture – they are not there to teach they are there to facilitate learning. #lrnchat
10:03:09 am neillasher: RT @simbeckhampson: The only thing a company should be thinking about is building the playground #lrnchat
10:03:11 am mrch0mp3rs: I cave to one-size-fits-all sometimes b/c I don’t do the homework to find a solution in time, budget that’s better. #lrnchat
10:03:18 am kelticray: @tmiket If they’ve done an assessment, great. But if they haven’t & they don’t want us to do it, I think their end product suffers #lrnchat
10:03:21 am TerrenceWing: RT @JaneBozarth: Lots of intermixing here of the words “training” and “learning” #lrnchat #lrnchat
10:03:26 am jpsteltz: RT @Mrkeenan: New post Mrkeenan.com: The Importance of 24/7 Resource Availability http://bit.ly/biog6c Let students learn on THEIR time #edchat #lrnchat
10:03:33 am tmiket: @JaneBozarth We know that Learning Training right? #lrnchat
10:03:45 am JudithELS: The informed employee vis-a-vis learning – wow, that will cause an almighty shake-up in the traditional training world! #lrnchat/
10:03:49 am lrnchat: Q2) How can we improve training for the masses (if/when it’s unavoidable)? #lrnchat
10:03:51 am tmiket: @kelticray Agreed! #lrnchat
10:03:56 am bschlenker: RT mddube Q1: As a learner myself, I will on my own learn more. Do not wait for learning to come! <Hurray for motivation! #lrnchat
10:04:02 am vahva: RT @simbeckhampson a company should be thinking about building the playground, maintaining & encouraging employees to use it #lrnchat
10:04:12 am NancyWhite: RT @simbeckhampson: The only thing a company should be thinking about is building the playground, maintaining and encouraging employees to use it. #lrnchat
10:04:13 am simbeckhampson: @kelticray Its old school – you can’t really blame them – they don’t know better, but they do need re-educating #lrnchat
10:04:15 am tmiket: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can we improve training for the masses (if/when it’s unavoidable)? #lrnchat
10:04:24 am joe_bower: @sguditus Twitter is great for teachers but it is sold wrong http://bit.ly/b0guJW #lrnchat
10:04:24 am Mary_a_Myers: most companies don’t like playing in the playground.. #lrnchat
10:04:33 am mrch0mp3rs: @tmiket @JaneBozarth I also know that Learning != Training🙂 #lrnchat
10:04:41 am vahva: @JoelFoner Yes, look at the just in time learning we’re all doing here! #lrnchat
10:04:43 am JudithELS: Training is what I do to someone and learning is what I hope they will do as a result #lrnchat/
10:04:48 am Mary_a_Myers: q2) make it fun! blend! #lrnchat
10:04:48 am jjalonso: Q1 I think One-size-fits-all is the path of least resistance and often the easiest. why don’t want to take the “harder” path? #lrnchat
10:04:51 am architela: 2) is there any such thing as “the masses”? who are we talking about? #lrnchat
10:04:52 am bfchirpy: Q2) L & D should do more design and less deliver. Anybody can do it with support. #lrnchat
10:04:55 am mrch0mp3rs: RT @lrnchat Q2) How can we improve training for the masses (if/when it’s unavoidable)? #lrnchat
10:04:57 am TerrenceWing: The first step 2 healing is admitting RT @mrch0mp3rs I cave 2 1-size-fits-all sometimes b/c I dont do the homework 2 find solution #lrnchat
10:05:06 am seanbengry: Q1) Tradition, what’s worked (or seemed to work) or adopted in the past is seen as a solution for the present. #lrnchat
10:05:07 am JoelFoner: Idea: Training org as food service. Learner given goals, chooses from menu of opts for learning (w eval at end)? #LRNchat
10:05:14 am c4lpt: Q2 Stop training! Start developing self-directed self-managed learners #lrnchat
10:05:17 am JaneBozarth: @tmiket Uh, huh. Root of most of the problems. #lrnchat
10:05:34 am karynromeis: Q2 Maybe we need to be training less and empowering individuals for learning more. #lrnchat
10:05:34 am hamtra: RT @c4lpt: Q2 Stop training! Start developing self-directed self-managed learners #lrnchat
10:05:34 am kkapp: q2) Options, we need to provide multiple paths to the content & multiple strategies to learn content #lrnchat
10:05:36 am InSyncEU: RT @JudithELS: Training is what I do to someone and learning is what I hope they will do as a result #lrnchat/
10:05:41 am simbeckhampson: How boring is it when management try to tell employees HOW to play in the playground. Coach not Teach. #lrnchat
10:05:42 am mddube: Q2: Set the expectation that section managers are responsible to personalize; can be delegated in areas for development too! #lrnchat
10:05:43 am mellissalast: LOVE! RT @simbeckhampson: Only thing co. should b thinking abt is building playground, maintaining & encouraging employees 2 use. #lrnchat
10:05:48 am mojotillett: RT @TerrenceWing: The first step 2 healing is admitting RT @mrch0mp3rs I cave 2 1-size-fits-all sometimes b/c I dont do the homework 2 find solution #lrnchat
10:05:55 am TerrenceWing: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can we improve training for the masses (if/when its unavoidable)? #lrnchat
10:06:01 am simbeckhampson: RT @c4lpt: Q2 Stop training! Start developing self-directed self-managed learners #lrnchat < Exactly!
10:06:01 am bfchirpy: Q2) UK training is mostly a whole day thing because trainers travel and make a day of it… Time to stop the ‘day’ as the only unit #lrnchat
10:06:14 am JaneBozarth: A-MEN RT @c4lpt Stop training! Start developing self-directed self-managed learners #lrnchat
10:06:16 am TerrenceWing: RT @c4lpt: Q2 Stop training! Start developing self-directed self-managed learners #lrnchat
10:06:17 am jonhusband: RT @c4lpt Q2 Stop training! Start developing self-directed self-managed learners #lrnchat
10:06:23 am sguditus: Q2) We need to empower employees to direct their learning, and give opportunities to differentiate what’s important to them. #lrnchat
10:06:26 am kelleycruse: RT @c4lpt: Q2 Stop training! Start developing self-directed self-managed learners #lrnchat
10:06:26 am tmiket: Ultimately we can’t MAKE them learn – just make it more LIKELY! #lrnchat
10:06:35 am neillasher: Q2) training the masses or getting the masses to learn are different things no? #lrnchat
10:06:35 am bschlenker: RT c4lpt Q2 Stop training! Start developing self-directed self-managed learners <<Perfect! Next question. #lrnchat
10:06:36 am c4lpt: Q2 The new skill for L&D in 21stC is letting go – and helping others develop themselves! #lrnchat
10:06:37 am britz: Q2) Re-focus Org culture on LEARNING and that training is only 1 avenue to performance improvement #lrnchat
10:06:42 am simbeckhampson: @bfchirpy Hi Simon🙂 #lrnchat
10:06:45 am npmaven: Fascinating discussion right now at #lrnchat – def. parallels our discussions re: #nonprofit learning.
10:06:55 am InSyncEU: @simbeckhampson But they are telling employees how to play in the playground because they do not know how to coach #lrnchat
10:07:01 am DanSpira: RT @JaneBozarth: A-MEN RT @c4lpt Stop training! Start developing self-directed self-managed learners #lrnchat
10:07:02 am learninganorak: RT @mrch0mp3rs: @tmiket @JaneBozarth I also know that Learning != Training🙂 #lrnchat <=It does? Since when? I didn’t get th memo! #lrnchat
10:07:07 am vahva: Totally agree, it’s abt learning to learn! RT @c4lpt: Q2 Stop training! Start developing self-directed self-managed learners #lrnchat
10:07:08 am TerrenceWing: Q2:Facilitate Learning. The options are as abundant as the lrnr preferences #lrnchat
10:07:09 am JudithELS: Surely though there are situations when training is needed? We shouldn’t throw the baby out with the bath water #lrnchat/
10:07:24 am mbmessner: RT @c4lpt: Q2 The new skill for L&D in 21stC is letting go – and helping others develop themselves! #lrnchat
10:07:26 am sifowler: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can we improve training for the masses (if/when it’s unavoidable)? #lrnchat
10:07:26 am TerrenceWing: RT @britz: Q2) Re-focus Org culture on LEARNING and that training is only 1 avenue to performance improvement #lrnchat
10:07:30 am Rsuominen: RT @c4lpt Start developing self-directed self-managed learners. RT @JoelFoner The web enables “just in time learning”. #lrnchat
10:07:33 am tmiket: @bfchirpy I much prefer the hour or even minutes as the default time blocks for learning #lrnchat
10:07:46 am Mary_a_Myers: RT @TerrenceWing: Q2:Facilitate Learning. The options are as abundant as the lrnr preferences #lrnchat
10:07:51 am simbeckhampson: Why don’t management adopt this…Fear, its a competitive world out there, get it wrong and your doomed. #lrnchat
10:07:53 am vahva: RT @c4lpt: Q2 The new skill for L&D in 21stC is letting go – and helping others develop themselves! #lrnchat
10:07:58 am Mary_a_Myers: RT @mbmessner: RT @c4lpt: Q2 The new skill for L&D in 21stC is letting go – and helping others develop themselves! #lrnchat
10:08:02 am mojotillett: @mrch0mp3rs I cave 2 1-size-fits-all sometimes b/c time lines don’t permit delivering multiple versions for each audience #lrnchat
10:08:13 am mellissalast: AMEN! RT @bfchirpy: Q2) L & D should do more design and less deliver. Anybody can do it with support. #lrnchat
10:08:18 am bfchirpy: Agree with @c4lpt – we need to get better at making ourselves dispensable. #lrnchat
10:08:18 am simbeckhampson: @InSyncEU Exaclty #lrnchat
10:08:25 am JudithELS: Q2 – in short, yes the two are completely different. #lrnchat/
10:08:27 am Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can we improve training for the masses (if/when it’s unavoidable)? #lrnchat
10:08:29 am InSyncEU: @c4lpt But do we not still have to assist in guiding them to develop themselves? #lrnchat
10:08:47 am vahva: RT @vahva: RT @c4lpt: Q2 The new skill for L&D in 21stC is letting go – and helping others develop themselves! #lrnchat #learning3
10:08:48 am mellissalast: YES PLEASE! I’ll take 3,000 of them! RT @c4lpt: Q2 Stop training! Start developing self-directed self-managed learners #lrnchat
10:08:52 am jclarey: excuse me for dropping in late…Q2-training is part of a holistic approach.how do you not fly a plane into houses w/out training? #lrnchat
10:09:08 am Quinnovator: Q2) use the best learning approach: deeper ID #lrnchat
10:09:09 am tmiket: RT @bfchirpy: Agree with @c4lpt – we need to get better at making ourselves dispensable. #lrnchat
10:09:10 am neillasher: @LandDDave Agreed #lrnchat
10:09:13 am sguditus: We educators need to become masters of our own destiny, and self-direct our own training…time is the determining factor. #lrnchat
10:09:17 am simbeckhampson: @InSyncEU Exactly! So there is an identified coaching need – management need support too, even if they dont realise it (or want it) #lrnchat
10:09:18 am JaneBozarth: @mbmessner @c4lpt Sad, isn’t it, that this is considered a “new” skill? #lrnchat
10:09:40 am Mary_a_Myers: q2) i suppose when it’s learner driven it can be harder on the bottom line for corps. fear is heavy i feel. new model adoption slow #lrnchat
10:09:49 am TerrenceWing: Q2) Start listening to the SMEs and learners and truly identifying the problem. #lrnchat
10:09:49 am karynromeis: We need to remember we’re dealing with ambitious adults, not recalcitrant children #lrnchat
10:09:50 am Quinnovator: RT @c4lpt: Q2 Stop training! Start developing self-directed self-managed learners #lrnchat
10:09:56 am c4lpt: @InSynEU yes – and that is the new skill L&D will have to learn; stop creating the solution, help them find their own (with others) #lrnchat
10:09:58 am mellissalast: That’s a definitely, not a maybe. RT @karynromeis: Q2 Maybe we need 2 b training less & empowering individuals 4 learning more. #lrnchat
10:09:58 am bfchirpy: Yes, @jclarey – every time we say ‘no more training’ we sound like mentalists. #preachingtoconverted #lrnchat
10:10:11 am Quinnovator: @mellissalast you don’t get ’em, you gots to ‘make’ ’em! #lrnchat
10:10:14 am tmiket: @mellissalast Hope you get a volume discount!😎 #lrnchat
10:10:15 am neillasher: RT @karynromeis: We need to remember we’re dealing with ambitious adults, not recalcitrant children #lrnchat
10:10:15 am simbeckhampson: @sguditus Time has become more critical in todays market. #lrnchat
10:10:18 am cahlan: Q2) Make it easier for ppl to find what they want/need. Guide them as they discover outcomes themselves #lrnchat
10:10:37 am InSyncEU: RT @TerrenceWing: Q2) Start listening to the SMEs and learners and truly identifying the problem. EXACTLY #lrnchat
10:10:45 am LandDDave: q2) I think we need to focus our design less on what people do DURING a workshop and more on what they do AFTERWARDS. #lrnchat
10:10:47 am cynan_sez: (Q2) #lrnchat L&D get on with providing learning framework, act as internal consultants/advisors, but get out of way of p2p delivery ?
10:10:48 am JaneBozarth: @learninganorak We’re kidding. #lrnchat
10:10:48 am mojotillett: sometimes motivation to learn is a key to improving training effectiveness #lrnchat
10:10:53 am mbmessner: We should walk with learners on the training path…not in front of them. Learners must own the learning process. #lrnchat
10:10:58 am c4lpt: @mbmessner Indeed, sad that this is not seen as their primary role #lrnchat
10:11:09 am learninganorak: Q2 Create ‘safe fail’ spaces #lrnchat
10:11:12 am bfchirpy: Training can work as sim or workshop if it’s a problem-solving space and not a content-hose. #lrnchat
10:11:16 am mrch0mp3rs: To the question Q2 — sometimes the decision to do training for the masses is above us. How do we make lemonade? #lrnchat
10:11:20 am kkapp: neillasher RT @karynromeis: We need to remember we’re dealing with ambitious adults, not recalcitrant children #lrnchat Most of the time.
10:11:31 am tmiket: @InSyncEU ..and enable the conversation b/w the SMEs and the learners. #lrnchat
10:11:36 am kelly_smith01: Q2) Design learning to facilitate learners selecting required “unit” or “units” & take time of need & place of learner #lrnchat
10:11:36 am neillasher: Q2) if you make the learning ‘attractive’ they will flock to do it. Don’t consider attractive and they will run the other way #lrnchat
10:11:50 am JoelFoner: Learner driven training reqs effective evaluation, “time sitting in class” is not a learning metric (but commonly used).. #LRNchat
10:11:51 am Mary_a_Myers: RT @mrch0mp3rs: To the question Q2 — sometimes the decision to do training for the masses is above us. How do we make lemonade? #lrnchat
10:11:53 am sguditus: @mojotillett Can we motivate adults to learn in the same way we motivate kids to learn? #lrnchat
10:11:56 am simbeckhampson: @neillasher Yes, but inside lives a little child waiting to escape, to enjoy learning, to grow – they need support and coaching. #lrnchat
10:12:01 am sifowler: Q2: for the masses: reduce perceptions & realities of power asymmetries; establish/agree on common purpose #lrnchat
10:12:04 am JaneBozarth: Gotta go— thanks for letting me do a drive by. See many again in this evening’s #lrnchat .
10:12:20 am vahva: Joke:#lrnchat RT @TheFagCasanova: @vahva I don’t like the diet version & have serious doubts that it is actually made from girders. #irnchat
10:12:28 am learninganorak: @JaneBozarth Thanks goodness for that! Sadly many would say that and *not* be kidding #lrnchat
10:12:34 am bfchirpy: @mrch0mp3rs When life gives you lemons… Life’s given training departments Sprite and we’ got fat… #lrnchat
10:12:47 am sifowler: RT @learninganorak: Q2 Create ‘safe fail’ spaces #lrnchat
10:12:48 am LandDDave: That’s the Key – find out why they care! @mojotillett RT sometimes motivation to learn is a key to improving training effectiveness #lrnchat
10:12:55 am InSyncEU: @cynan_sez Absolutely – we need to help move them to facilitating the learning that we advise and deliver – not reverse! #lrnchat
10:12:55 am neillasher: @simbeckhampson often, but we have to know when to approach the child and when it is serious #lrnchat
10:13:12 am Mary_a_Myers: RT @bfchirpy: @mrch0mp3rs When life gives you lemons… Lifes given training departments Sprite and we got fat… #lrnchat
10:13:15 am tmiket: Is there really much diff b/w kids and adults when learning? #lrnchat
10:13:17 am mrch0mp3rs: RT @bfchirpy bfchirpy: When life gives you lemons… Life’s given training departments Sprite and we’ got fat… #lrnchat
10:13:17 am simbeckhampson: RT @bfchirpy: @mrch0mp3rs When life gives you lemons… Life’s given training departments Sprite and we’ got fat… #lrnchat reproduceable skills. “Learning” => ways of thinking. #lrnchat
10:13:33 am mojotillett: Q2) sometimes too much training creates noise they don’t take the time to filter what they need #lrnchat
10:13:38 am joe_bower: There’s no ‘training in-service for passion #lrnchat
10:13:40 am sguditus: Professional development should meet adult learners where they are, and challenge them just beyond their comfort zone. #lrnchat
10:13:46 am britz: Sadly must run -Team meeting…on plus side – nice talking pts from #lrnchat today thx everyone!
10:13:49 am mrch0mp3rs: @bfchirpy is it, dare I say, a blind faith in… ADDIE (I’m already drinking)? #lrnchat
10:13:52 am Mary_a_Myers: must leave as well…enjoy the chat …see you tonight #lrnchat
10:13:56 am bfchirpy: Right, out of here to enjoy the sacred family meal. Nice to meet y’all. (Apologies to non #lrnchat peeps for hosing…
10:13:56 am simbeckhampson: RT @tmiket: Is there really much diff b/w kids and adults when learning? #lrnchat < Not really🙂
10:14:00 am learninganorak: @kkapp People may step up to what is expected of them, but will almost certainly shut down when what is expected is ‘not much’ . #lrnchat
10:14:00 am karynromeis: @kkapp People may step up to what is expected of them, but will almost certainly shut down when what is expected is ‘not much’ . #lrnchat
10:14:03 am c4lpt: @LandDDave Motivation is key; WIFM – part of encouraging self-directedness #lrnchat
10:14:03 am kelticray: #lrnchat Q2) Does it need to be formal training? Wouldn’t providing social learning allow a greater reach of scope?
10:14:15 am TerrenceWing: @kelticray I’d hope orgs try to reach every learner but try to reach them based on each unique need. #lrnchat
10:14:16 am mellissalast: Not always the case in my world. RT @karynromeis: Need to remember we’re dealing with ambitious adults, not recalcitrant children #lrnchat
10:14:20 am InSyncEU: RT @simbeckhampson: @neillasher Yes, but inside lives a little child waiting to escape, to enjoy learning, to grow – they need support and coaching. #lrnchat
10:14:20 am vahva: This discussion going on at #learning3 what abt andragogy? RT @tmiket Is there really much diff b/w kids and adults when learning? #lrnchat
10:14:42 am InSyncEU: @JaneBozarth Thanks Jane – catch up soon… #lrnchat
10:14:42 am tmiket: @simbeckhampson Glad you agree! #lrnchat
10:14:53 am mbmessner: @JaneBozarth @c4lpt We become overwhelmed by deadlines/numbers & forget the basics. Is the focus training completion or learning? #lrnchat
10:15:00 am simbeckhampson: @neillasher serious games🙂 #lrnchat
10:15:08 am tmiket: @vahva what about andragogy? #lrnchat
10:15:13 am karynromeis: @vahva The term andragogy isn’t really used outside of the USA #lrnchat
10:15:31 am kkapp: @karynromeis Ive seen ppl who “don’t need training/learning or any new knowledge” because they “know everything” Hard ppl to reach. #lrnchat
10:15:43 am mellissalast: Nice image. RT @mbmessner: Walk with learners on the training path…not in front of them. Learners must own the learning process. #lrnchat
10:15:43 am simbeckhampson: What was Q2? #lrnchat
10:15:51 am JudithELS: As a follower of andragogy I believe that there are significant differences for adults as opposed to children learning #lrnchat/
10:15:54 am mrch0mp3rs: @karynromeis @vahva It’s not really used much in the US either. #lrnchat
10:15:55 am tmiket: @mbmessner We actually have some ppl who enforce time spent in elearning courses! YIKES! #lrnchat
10:15:57 am neillasher: @simbeckhampson yes sure as long as they change behaviour #lrnchat
10:15:58 am janet_frg: @tmiket one diff between adults & kids in learning: adults have more fear of public failure (understandable, stakes are higher) #lrnchat
10:16:09 am philipgreen: @#lrnchat I have a query – maybe one of you folks can help me with it
10:16:18 am c4lpt: @vahva We shd be developing self-directed learners from a young age, but think it is actually happening w/o teachers #lrnchat
10:16:22 am TerrenceWing: Part of pop still learns traditionally RT @kelticray Q2) Does it need 2 b formal trng? Wouldnt providing soc lrng allow grtr reach? #lrnchat
10:16:25 am mrch0mp3rs: RT @lrnchat Q2) How can we improve training for the masses (if/when it’s unavoidable)? #lrnchat
10:16:40 am TerrenceWing: And it is??? RT @philipgreen: @#lrnchat I have a query – maybe one of you folks can help me with it #lrnchat
10:16:46 am kelleycruse: RT @tmiket: @mbmessner We actually have some ppl who enforce time spent in elearning courses! YIKES! #lrnchat
10:16:53 am neillasher: @philipgreen go for it #lrnchat
10:17:08 am kkapp: We become overwhelmed by deadlines/numbers & forget basics. Is focus training completion or learning? #lrnchat Neither Focus is performance!
10:17:11 am mellissalast: YES! What’s the WIIFM to complete! RT @neillasher: Q2) make learning ‘attractive’ they will flock to do it. #lrnchat
10:17:21 am simbeckhampson: @neillasher That’s the job of consultants – to motivate to beat back objections and then gently take them by the hand & lead them #lrnchat
10:17:21 am karynromeis: @mrch0mp3rs Really? Hmm. According to my reading it’s an Americanism that hasn’t really caught on elsewhere… #lrnchat
10:17:32 am mddube: Q2: And yet fearlessness is considered a great attribute to have!#lrnchat
10:17:33 am vahva: Not used much at all, that’s why I asked the Q! RT @mrch0mp3rs: @karynromeis @vahva It’s not really used much in the US either. #lrnchat
10:17:40 am jclarey: @kelticray not all formal and not all “social learning” yes .. . we’ve also always had an urge to pass on to others #lrnchat
10:24:41 am neillasher: Q3) What are some of the business realities we contend with at odds with doing training smart?#lrnchat
10:24:41 am c4lpt: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q3) What are some of the business realities we contend with at odds with doing training smart?#lrnchat
10:24:47 am philipgreen: @#lrnchat What is the result if a cohort of learners or an action learning set fail to “form” at the beginning?
10:24:53 am tmiket: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q3) What are some of the business realities we contend with at odds with doing training smart? #lrnchat
10:24:55 am vahva: I’ve got to go now but really enjoyed my first #lrnchat ! Thanks for the warm welcome!
10:25:05 am karynromeis: @lindiop Unwilling participants in learning is not a reflection on their personal ambition. We need to tap into that. #lrnchat
10:25:16 am mddube: Q3: Limit resources and not-up-to-date-expectations #lrnchat
10:25:18 am mojotillett: Q3) What are some of the business realities we contend with at odds with doing training smart? #lrnchat > no time for training busy pple
10:25:27 am mrch0mp3rs: RT @visualrinse Making it better requires masses to feel the desire to use it. Why not make it something desirable, not dreadful? #lrnchat
10:25:28 am philipgreen: @#lrnchat What supports the belief that “forming” and creating social links is a useful prelude – in fact essential for learning together?
10:25:45 am c4lpt: Q3 Pt 1/2 L&D needs to prove they are doing their job. Creating courses and managing them thru an LMS demonstrates that. #lrnchat
10:25:52 am neillasher: @LandDDave expectation is too high, hence we revert to ‘rapid’ which means little ID . Learn to say NO #lrnchat
10:25:52 am simbeckhampson: @learninganorak I think it would work where old school is not so old school. In today’s climate it is easier now than ever. #lrnchat
10:25:52 am mellissalast: RT @neillasher: Q3) What are some of the business realities we contend with at odds with doing training smart?#lrnchat
10:26:09 am visualrinse: Q3) Too many mid-level manager concerned with ROI, not HPI. #lrnchat Checkbox training + bottom line = dumb training
10:26:11 am bschlenker: Q3) No culture of learning. Lack of motivated workforce willing/wanting to learn more #lrnchat
10:26:17 am mrch0mp3rs: RT @LandDDave Q3) Unfortunately, many projects come with an implementation date before training is even brought into the equation. #lrnchat
10:26:20 am tmiket: AMEN! >> RT @mrch0mp3rs: RT @visualrinseWhy not make it something desirable, not dreadful? #lrnchat
10:26:33 am kelly_smith01: Q3) Dealing with the opinion “Thats the way we have already done it.” #lrnchat
10:26:37 am simbeckhampson: @philipgreen Jay Cross may have a few good answers to that one… #lrnchat
10:26:39 am philipgreen: @#lrnchat Can anyone here point me towards some proper research data that does not date from the 1960s?
10:27:11 am joe_bower: If professional development is ever described as an obligation, it ceases to be authentic and sustainable. #lrnchat
10:27:12 am mellissalast: Q3) Lack of time (or ambitious deadlines – depending on pov) & lack of resources. Learners lack of time too. #lrnchat
10:27:13 am philipgreen: @#lrnchat Tuckman’s 1960s was a bit, you might say “heuristic”
10:27:15 am TerrenceWing: @hamtra @kelticray Answer still stands. Grt managers will know lrning pref of staff. Hire grt mgrs, fire duds #lrnchat
10:27:27 am tmiket: @mrch0mp3rs Many times proj team asks for training “next week” or this Friday. #lrnchat
10:27:42 am hamtra: Q3. Time, money, workload of learners. #lrnchat
10:27:45 am InSyncEU: Q3 – Training seen as the “band-aid” solution to the problem #lrnchat
10:27:49 am monk51295: RT @joe_bower: If professional development is ever described as an obligation, it ceases to be authentic and sustainable. #lrnchat
10:27:52 am LandDDave: Q3) we are always ‘plugged in’. Focusing on learning is difficult when your Crackberry goes off every 20 seconds. #lrnchat
10:27:54 am philipgreen: @#lrnchat I’ll leave that thought to brew
10:28:04 am bschlenker: @philipgreen Great question…and no. There isn’t any good research after the ’60😉 #lrnchat
10:28:09 am kelly_smith01: Q3) Cost avoidance – Don’t want to spend $$ on re-development or new learning when we already have something #lrnchat
10:28:23 am kelleycruse: Q3) workers have so many responsibilities and training is often a add on, their current work is piling up while they’re in training #lrnchat
10:28:27 am cahlan: Q3) little to absolutely no emphasis on optimizing current elearning. Lrng products are static, should be dynamic and iterative. #lrnchat
10:28:31 am jclarey: @bschlenker imho…kinda passive aggressive then huh? #lrnchat
10:28:32 am sifowler: Q3: business reality: managers who can’t (no ability, permission or time) or will not (power) enable their people to learn & grow #lrnchat
10:28:41 am mellissalast: I ask myself, what have I done to contribute to this? RT @bschlenker: Q3) Lack of motivated workforce willing/wanting to learn more #lrnchat
10:28:41 am mrch0mp3rs: Q3) The business messaging often changes so much even through the training development that it’s hard to take on complexity. #lrnchat
10:28:49 am InSyncEU: Q3 – The attitude of “Houston we have a problem” how do we fix that? Ohhh lets put everyone through the sausage machine… #lrnchat
10:29:02 am Rsuominen: Good idea RT @bschlenker Isn’t #lrnchat better than a classroom lecture? Shouldn’t Unis asign this as a class and give course credit?
10:29:03 am simbeckhampson: RT @hamtra: Q3. Time, money, workload of learners. #lrnchat < Agree.
10:29:05 am TerrenceWing: http://www.elearningguild.org just published some RT @philipgreen Can anyone here point me towards some proper research data #lrnchat
10:29:10 am kkapp: q3) Look banks, Toyota, insurance co’s. Only interest is maximize profits at any cost. Cutting training or learning. Easy for them #lrnchat
10:29:22 am InSyncEU: Q3 – The time pressured world we now have to operate in.. #lrnchat
10:29:23 am Spydeesense: @mojotillett “Ppl are 2 busy 2 learn” is a refrain heard often particularly w/sales forces & there’s no easy answer #lrnchat
10:29:41 am c4lpt: Q2 Pt 2/2 I think L&D needs to demonstrate value to the business – improvments in performance, productivity, customer satisfaction #lrnchat
10:29:52 am LandDDave: @neillasher Agreed. It’s easier to stop the ball from rolling down the hill then to stop it after it’s started rolling though. #lrnchat
10:30:21 am kelly_smith01: Q3) Learning event offered at convenient time instead of in time of need (prior to new performance for example) #lrnchat
10:30:44 am sifowler: RT @c4lpt: Q2 Pt 2/2 I think L&D needs to demonstrate value to the business – improvments in performance, productivity, customer satisfaction #lrnchat
10:30:46 am simbeckhampson: @kkapp Turn it on it’s head. Reduce costs in others areas. Collaborate virtually and re-employ the savings back into training. #lrnchat
10:31:03 am cahlan: RT @c4lpt: Q2 Pt 2/2 I think L&D needs to demonstrate value to the business – improvments in performance, productivity, customer satisfaction #lrnchat
10:31:03 am neilstephenson: Any #science bloggers out there? #education #educhat #lrnchat
10:31:15 am mrch0mp3rs: @LandDDave @neillasher Agreed. There are little design decisions that scale to big entrenched problems as things progress. #lrnchat
10:31:25 am mellissalast: Sounds like our most imp learners are current mgmt. #lrnchat
10:31:39 am LandDDave: Q3) Another reality.. Most businesses dont plan, they react. Learning should be a planned event. #lrnchat
10:31:48 am simbeckhampson: @kelly_smith01 Just in time training – nice. With social media and informal learning it becomes possible to reach the masses. #lrnchat
10:31:49 am mddube: Q3: Organizations not seeing the value of how much more ‘trainers’ can do than just ‘take orders’ #lrnchat
10:31:58 am lindiop: @karynromeis yes, true – shows mismatch between learner’s ambition & provision. How to tap in in authentic way not just lipservice #lrnchat
10:31:58 am InSyncEU: @simbeckhampson Agree with that why spend zillions of dollars flying people to 3 days training events when they forget 50% anyways.#lrnchat
10:32:00 am neillasher: If L&D continues to pump out poor learning to meet the need of speed we will never change the issue. Educate the company #lrnchat
10:32:05 am articulatebrian: I’m really enjoying the #lrnchat today. I’m usually not online during the night to participate.
10:32:12 am TerrenceWing: So true. They create culture RT @mellissalast: Sounds like our most imp learners are current mgmt. #lrnchat
10:32:26 am hamtra: RT @LandDDave: Q3) Another reality.. Most businesses dont plan, they react. < an all too reality in health care. #lrnchat
10:32:43 am mrch0mp3rs: To @LandDDave ‘s point, if learning s/b a planned event, when it’s not — is it just messaging? #lrnchat
10:33:06 am neillasher: Is it L&D who needs to prove something or actually HR #lrnchat
10:33:15 am mellissalast: When was the last time you did some internal mktg? #lrnchat
10:33:22 am hamtra: RT @articulatebrian: Im really enjoying the #lrnchat today. usually not online at night.
react instead or is it an issue of not having blinders on vs/ eyes wide open? #lrnchat
10:34:37 am mellissalast: Would you like fries with that? RT @mddube: Q3: Organizations not seeing value of how much more trainers can do than ‘take orders’ #lrnchat
10:34:49 am bschlenker: RT neillasher Is it L&D who needs to prove something or actually HR <<<interesting – I like this line of thought #lrnchat
10:34:55 am lrnchat: Q4) What are some creative ways, in a mass approach, to make things stick? #lrnchat
10:35:03 am agentsurefire: verdict on SC-Con: the biggest factor in #infosec is getting the employees to buy in to how important their role is! #lrnchat #seriousgames
10:35:03 am sifowler: Q3: L&D needs to demonstrates that it understands the business and the glocal situations #lrnchat
10:35:05 am LandDDave: @mrch0mp3rs I find that much of what is called TRAINING is better defined as COMMUNICATING #lrnchat
10:35:22 am TerrenceWing: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What are some creative ways, in a mass approach, to make things stick? #lrnchat
10:35:25 am simbeckhampson: @kkapp Exactly or we need the cogs to do something different, and not so many of them. That is where the fear lies for management. #lrnchat
10:35:40 am c4lpt: RT @bschlenker: RT neillasher Is it L&D who needs to prove something or actually HR << We often have sudden new mandatory training, ministry driven. 5 courses grew to 10 this yr #lrnchat
10:36:41 am Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What are some creative ways, in a mass approach, to make things stick? #lrnchat
10:36:44 am graingered: RT @joe_bower: Time is not the biggest hurdle for real PD. Apathy plays a far greater role. #lrnchat
10:36:49 am mddube: Q4: Follow Up Follow Up Follow Up and make sure the employees know how training will benefit immediately #lrnchat
10:36:49 am c4lpt: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What are some creative ways, in a mass approach, to make things stick? #lrnchat
10:36:50 am simbeckhampson: Q4) Before Karl jumps in… 3D #lrnchat
10:36:51 am InSyncEU: @simbeckhampson Right – The budget is often not there because of the tower, travel costs etc.. #lrnchat
10:36:56 am mellissalast: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What are some creative ways, in a mass approach, to make things stick? #lrnchat
10:36:59 am kelleycruse: RT @mddube: Q4: Get invited to the discussion table to plan for needs well #lrnchat
10:37:09 am LandDDave: Q4) Mass audience or custom, if you want it to stick, focus design on what learners do when they leave the ‘event’ #lrnchat
10:37:16 am MichelleLavoie: #lrnchat Q3: bs realities at odds with doing training smart? Embedded expectations of students and everyone involved in lrng delivery
10:37:27 am tmiket: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What are some creative ways, in a mass approach, to make things stick? #lrnchat
10:37:30 am InSyncEU: @simbeckhampson High in terms of forgetting or retention?? #lrnchat
10:37:44 am TerrenceWing: Q4) If all else fails, glue them to the seats #lrnchat
10:37:45 am Quinnovator: Q4) make it service learning, or at least problem-based & social; engage hearts as well as minds; #lrnchat
10:37:47 am chrisstjohn: RT @Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What are some creative ways, in a mass approach, to make things stick? #lrnchat
10:37:54 am simbeckhampson: Learning occurs when those are engaged – find ways to engage and motivate employees. #lrnchat
10:38:06 am c4lpt: Q4 Only way to make things “stick” is if employees/learners WANT to learn for whatever reason, otherwise it’s a pointless exercise #lrnchat
10:38:13 am Quinnovator: RT @Quinnovator: Q3: seeing learning as a cost-center instead of a strategic partner #lrnchat (forgot the bloody hashtag, doh!)
10:38:18 am neillasher: @simbeckhampson with smellaround #lrnchat
10:38:20 am mbmessner: Use humor!!! RT @lrnchat: Q4) What are some creative ways, in a mass approach, to make things stick? #lrnchat
10:38:24 am TerrenceWing: Hey @chrisstjohn Hope all is well. #lrnchat
10:38:25 am digitalfemme: RT @simbeckhampson: Learning occurs when those are engaged – find ways to engage and motivate employees. #lrnchat
10:38:33 am tmiket: Q4 Integrate learning opportunities into the work/job #lrnchat
10:38:33 am InSyncEU: Q4 – Shorter sharper trainings sessions – delivered with passion and enthusiasm #lrnchat
10:38:39 am simbeckhampson: @InSyncEU Retention I would guess at more like 30%, if that – think of an instance yourself – how much can you remember? #lrnchat
10:38:58 am DouglasCrets: RT @simbeckhampson: Learning occurs when those are engaged – find ways to engage and motivate employees. #lrnchat
10:39:05 am mellissalast: And take away their Crackberries – and I’m in telecom!😀 RT @TerrenceWing: Q4) If all else fails, glue them to the seats #lrnchat
10:39:07 am InSyncEU: @c4lpt Yes, address the wiifm and we are part ways there #lrnchat
10:39:09 am graingered: @joe_bower Include lack of personal purpose, waiting for someone else to tell us what we need to know or develop #lrnchat
10:39:10 am simbeckhampson: @neillasher smellaround? #lrnchat
10:39:12 am mbmessner: Exactly! RT @simbeckhampson: Learning occurs when those are engaged – find ways to engage and motivate employees. #lrnchat
10:39:22 am tmiket: Lessen the “friction” involved with learning i.e travel, LMS, etc #lrnchat
10:39:35 am Spydeesense: Q4 VW is a great repository to gather masses, distribute learning in different ways & encourage informal learning practices #lrnchat
10:39:43 am TerrenceWing: RT @InSyncEU: @c4lpt Yes, address the wiifm and we are part ways there #lrnchat
10:39:50 am kelticray: Great!RT @TerrenceWing: Q4:Get learners involved in the analysis, planning, design, execution, &eval stages. Basically all stages. #lrnchat
10:39:50 am LandDDave: HA! I find Staples work as well! RT TerrenceWing: Q4) If all else fails, glue them to the seats #lrnchat
10:39:52 am mellissalast: YES RT @c4lpt: Q4 Only way to make things “stick” is if employees/learners WANT to learn, otherwise it’s a pointless exercise #lrnchat
10:39:56 am mbmessner: Try an experiential activity where learners discover the lesson to be learned. #lrnchat
10:39:57 am bschlenker: RT miket Q4 Integrate learning opportunities into the work/job <<can mobile devices start making this happen? #lrnchat
10:40:07 am TerrenceWing: RT @tmiket: Lessen the “friction” involved with learning i.e travel, LMS, etc #lrnchat
10:40:10 am tmiket: @mellissalast ..or maybe use them FOR learning? #lrnchat
10:40:10 am chrisstjohn: All is well. Planning the June elearning conference at http://bit.ly/dloSZn #lrnchat
10:40:12 am simbeckhampson: I love the phrase – Free Range Learner… #lrnchat
10:40:31 am neillasher: @simbeckhampson yes smellaround. a set of glass tubes with chemicals that occasionally pump a smell at you, use all the senses #lrnchat
10:40:34 am sifowler: Q4: 1/2 Make learning stick through storytelling/making; so people know they’re part of creating something bigger than themselves #lrnchat
10:40:35 am BertBates: AND, focus on creating good content, not LMSs. RT: @JaneBozarth @c4lpt Stop training! Start developing self-directed… learners #lrnchat
10:40:52 am tmiket: @bschlenker I hope so! #lrnchat
10:41:01 am hamtra: RT @simbeckhampson: I love the phrase – Free Range Learner… #lrnchat
10:41:08 am c4lpt: Q4 Just creating “attractive” content isn’t working – we can see – and forcing people to work through courses,doesn’t work eiither #lrnchat
10:41:14 am InSyncEU: @simbeckhampson yes your right – but that is what is happening isn’t it – 3 days and how much application? #lrnchat
10:41:15 am bschlenker: RT mellissalast And take away their Crackberries – and I’m in telecom! <<What? Seriously? Let’s not go backwards #lrnchat
10:41:16 am simbeckhampson: @neillasher lol :-)) #lrnchat
10:41:39 am simbeckhampson: @neillasher thinking about stink bombs at school… #lrnchat
10:41:42 am sifowler: Q4: 2/2 storytelling/making will also help sernior leaders in the strategy creation/adjustment process #lrnchat
10:41:52 am neillasher: @c4lpt then you have not understood attractive #lrnchat
10:41:53 am DonaldHTaylor: Employee motivation, engagement essential, but so is managers’ (Jennings, Broad) Learning ‘sticks’ when it’s part of daily worklife #lrnchat
10:42:00 am Rsuominen: Sounds right to me🙂 RT @InSyncEU Shorter sharper trainings sessions – delivered with passion and enthusiasm #lrnchat
10:42:07 am TerrenceWing: RT @BertBates: & focus on creating good content, not LMSs @JaneBozarth @c4lpt Stop training! Start developing self-directed lrnrs #lrnchat
10:42:10 am chrisstjohn: RT @simbeckhampson: I love the phrase – Free Range Learner… #lrnchat
10:42:13 am mellissalast: @tmiket I have had mixed experience. Still working out those kinks. #lrnchat
10:42:15 am mddube: Q4: Simplify critical points; for example, for Excel Leve1 learners, I keep chanting *Strucutre Matters*; they get it! #lrnchat
10:42:19 am jclarey: @hamtra i appreciate compliance (insurance background) but seeing something like SOX coming is planning. #lrnchat
10:42:37 am joe_bower: RT @graingered Include lack of personal purpose, waiting for someone else to tell us what we need to know or develop #lrnchat
10:42:40 am kelticray: Y do I envision a farm with lrnrs roaming? RT @simbeckhampson: I love the phrase – Free Range Learner… #lrnchat
10:42:40 am neillasher: @simbeckhampson I was talking about nice smells #lrnchat
10:42:41 am bschlenker: RT tmiket: @mellissalast ..or maybe use them FOR learning? <@Moderators- Thanks for a great opening show- will be back 4 more. #lrnchat
11:00:03 am JudithELS: Judith Christian-Carter http://www.effectivelearningsolutions.co.uk #lrnchat/
11:00:04 am neillasher: Great time blog… http://bit.ly/cHRWR2 lighter side of learning #lrnchat
11:00:07 am michael_hanley: Michael Hanley / Dublin / E-Learning Curve Blog http://url.ie/57av #lrnchat
11:00:16 am simbeckhampson: @mddube I’m with your there! #lrnchat
11:00:18 am c4lpt: Q4 Fantastic #lrnchat session. A link from my stuff on how L&D needs to change http://www.c4lpt.co.uk/handbook/state.html #lrnchat
11:00:25 am neillasher: @InSyncEU me too #lrnchat
11:00:48 am janet_frg: Qwrap) Janet – playing with information, collaboration and other topics in southwest Indiana. glad to have a chance to hang at #lrnchat
11:01:03 am bschlenker: Brent Schlenker – Arizona – (insert random letter)learning guy – Ask me about Mobile Learning and mLearnCon – LOVE #lrnchat
11:01:22 am lrnchat: Thank you for joining us on #lrnchat. Pls invite others next week & tell us if you blog about the conversation. http://j.mp/lrnchat
12:01:33 pm hybridkris: Kris Rockwell, Hybrid Learning Systems, Pittsburgh, PA. Great session. #lrnchat
12:01:34 pm simbeckhampson: @LandDDave Hope…? I’m more into forceful persuasion with alarming consequences moulded around gentle encouragement🙂 #lrnchat
12:01:52 pm JudithELS: Yes, thanks one and all as that was most enjoyable. All being well, ‘see’ you next week. #lrnchat/
12:02:10 pm janet_frg: #lrnchat – wondering if anyone has seen/done studies of effectiveness of collab &/or immersive learning for students with LDs?
12:02:16 pm michael_hanley: @lrnchat Slán leat – great tweet stream! #lrnchat
12:02:26 pm LandDDave: Reintro- David Kelly, NYC, Training Director for NYC-Based Bank (and lifelong learner) #lrnchat
12:04:26 pm simbeckhampson: Instant learning: add one part hashtag and one part great people, mix well and consume slowly. Night all… #lrnchat
12:04:37 pm lrnchat: We’ll announce here as soon as the #lrnchat transcript is posted to the website.
12:04:59 pm LandDDave: Thanks for a great session – Great Job Moderators! #lrnchat
12:05:45 pm neillasher: @LandDDave thank you from us all #lrnchat
12:05:46 pm kelticray: RT @mellissalast I’d like to try using Crackberries 2create a blackboard live twitter feed with hashtag. Any best practices? #lrnchat BRAVE!
12:05:51 pm ISPI1962: Great Tips: How to Manage Generational Clash in the Workplace http://ow.ly/1bhtF #lrnchat
12:05:55 pm ronindotca: Cameron Campbell, egeek, life long learner, new Zealand based lurker. Well done euro-lrnchatters!! #lrnchat
12:05:57 pm bfchirpy: Back from dinner, JIT to Tweet my contribution to the #eCollab ‘can we formalise informal learning’ carnival http://bit.ly/cJG3qU #lrnchat
12:06:09 pm lrnchat: #lrnchat starts again at 8:30pm Eastern tonight. See you there.
12:06:13 pm simbeckhampson: @garyd Oooh, thats the next thing I’m going to read – just got to spend some time off the keyboard (just out of #lrnchat)
12:06:23 pm cliveshepherd: #lrnchat Attractiveness of content (presumably meaning the layout and design) may not be criterion #1 but still in top ten …
12:06:58 pm cliveshepherd: #lrnchat Unattractive content (which fails to meet minimum standards) is distracting and shows a lack of respect by author
12:07:18 pm tmiket: Get #lrnchat transcript now at What the Hashtag?! http://bit.ly/XnDXj
12:08:32 pm tmiket: Top 5 at least @cliveshepherd: #lrnchat Attractiveness of content (layout and design) may not be criterion #1 but still in top10
12:08:33 pm cliveshepherd: #lrnchat Attractiveness isn’t expensive. Just don’t go over the top – YouTube can work as well as Hollywood in right situation.

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