Transcript 28 January 2010

8:30:40 pm lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been? Q0 warm up after the rules.
8:31:30 pm lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1) Introduce yourself. (We do this again at the end). Location? Focus? Fave topics?
8:33:11 pm jaycross: Jay Cross, Berkeley, California. Great weather today! And a spectacular Catalan lunch in Oakland. Life is good. #lrnchat
8:33:14 pm marciamarcia: While I missed the action at #TK10 this week, I’m thrilled to be joining #lrnchat live tonight!
8:33:36 pm wlonline: At #lrnchat, so apologies in advance to non-lrnchatters
8:33:46 pm lrnchat: 2) [try to] stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 20 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
8:33:52 pm gwoodill: Gary Woodill. Consultant. Senior Analyst with Brandon Hall Research. Canadian. -15 or so tonight. #lrnchat
8:34:22 pm jaycross: Warning! #lrnchat is on for the next 90 minutes. Join in if you like. #lrnchat
8:34:23 pm lrnchat: 3) When writing, complete thoughts help followers outside chat learn from you. 4) on #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm, welcome tho.
8:34:41 pm jkmind: #lrnchat Jesse Kramer in Central NJ. I’m an instructional designer with a focus on Sim development. I’m interestedin everything.
8:34:46 pm lrnchat: 5) Periodically RT questions so others outside #lrnchat know what you’re talking about so they can chime in.
8:34:49 pm marciamarcia: Marcia Conner, starter of this crazy crowdsourcing notion that’s become #lrnchat. Mountains of Virginia. Husband feeling much better!
8:35:24 pm wlonline: WL Wong from warm Sydney, ICT Uni #lrnchat
8:35:30 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith Plano, Texas Consultant – sometimes Free-Lance #lrnchat
8:35:44 pm Schnicker: Nicole Fougere, blogger at Litmos (LMS) in Auckland, New Zealand. Learning tech focus & on the cusp (i.e Friday) of a long wknd🙂 #lrnchat
8:35:47 pm nancyrubin: Hi everyone. Joining you from Miami this evening. #lrnchat
8:35:47 pm JaneBozarth: Jane, Raleigh, Raleigh, loves learnin’ stuff, author including upcoming “Social Media for Trainers” summer 2010 #lrnchat
8:36:02 pm ajeanne: Apologizing in advance for what might be many tweets related to #lrnchat this evening. #lrnchat
8:36:10 pm odguru: RT @jaycross: Warning! #lrnchat is on for the next 90 minutes. Join in if you like. #lrnchat
8:36:22 pm Priaak: Hi, Sivapriya, San Mateo, CA. #lrnchat
8:36:23 pm nancyrubin: RT @ajeanne: Apologizing in advance for what might be many tweets related to #lrnchat this evening. #lrnchat
8:36:24 pm gwoodill: Q0 – new words learned this week. Phonon and bibble. #lrnchat
8:36:24 pm kasey428: Kay Wood, performance consulting and learning solutions for the federal government, DC area #lrnchat
8:36:31 pm lrnchat: 6) Remember to include the #lrnchat in all posts. http://tweetchat.com, http://tweetgrid.com & http://twubs.com/lrnchat work well.
8:37:04 pm SuzNet: Suzanne Choma, Learning & Performance Ind Consultant, Rochester NY 14 outside, -3 windchill, brr #lrnchat
8:37:07 pm odguru: Christy, Guelph Canada Using Social Media for learning transfer, mentoring CoPs and other OD and talent mgmt pursuits. love #lrnchat
8:37:12 pm ValerieRoberts: Hi, Valerie Roberts, Sr Instructional Designer, Phoenix, AZ. #lrnchat
8:37:15 pm kelly_smith01: @JaneBozarth They only release the really big hits in the summer #lrnchat
8:37:19 pm ajeanne: Jeanne Farrington, San Jose, CA. Learning & performance consultant. #lrnchat
8:37:22 pm eduinnovation: If you ever wanted to see the potential of crowdsourcing learning follow The ultimate real time idea exchange #lrnchat
8:37:28 pm JaneBozarth: This week reading Lanier’s “You are not a gadget” for #lrnchat book club #lcbq @lcbq
8:37:28 pm nickfloro: Nick, Washington crossing, outside Phila. Design & Development. Can’t wait to get an ipad to play with… #lrnchat
8:37:34 pm chrstphr_adams: Chris Adams in Charlotte, NC. Learning software product manager. Interested in disruptive things. #lrnchat
8:37:34 pm michelle300: #lrnchat Michelle Moore, Learning Solutions Consultant, at #TK10, from Maryland
8:37:40 pm lrnchat: 7) 10 min before end, tell us if you need anything from the other #lrnchat participants. Time to reintroduce yourself, too. Links welcome.
8:37:45 pm JaneBozarth: Also reading Gawande’s “Checklist Manifesto” #lrnchat
8:37:50 pm trchandler: Todd Chandler, head of learning and performance for a retailer in Kansas City #lrnchat
8:38:01 pm elatedca: Gary Z co-founder of eLATED (w/ @gwoodill + others) -15C or so #lrnchat
8:38:03 pm JaneBozarth: But, really, I AM a gadget. #lrnchat
8:38:24 pm TerrenceWing: Terrence Wing – Los Angeles, CA – Leadership and Mgmt Development Liquidlearn.com #lrnchat
8:38:46 pm tmiket: Mike Taylor Columbus, OH learning developer and BIG fan of #lrnchat
8:38:49 pm lrnchat: Q0 (our weekly #lrnchat welcome, also check out @lrn2day) What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
8:39:03 pm sillym0nkey: Warning! #lrnchat is on for the next 90 minutes. Join in if you like. #lrnchat
8:39:05 pm lrnchat: What is crowdsourcing? Outsourcing work usually performed by one person, instead opened to a large group. #lrnchat
8:39:08 pm janet_frg: Janet Effron – elearning consultant, Evansville area, looking forward to tonight’s #lrnchat
8:39:15 pm jenran: Jennifer Randall, Kalamazoo, MI just out of last seminar at techknowledge #lrnchat
8:39:20 pm nancyrubin: Social Learning 101 Webinar Series – space still available – 1/29 9 AM EST and 2/3 9 PM EST – http://ow.ly/11b1u #lrnchat
8:39:25 pm ajeanne: Earlier this week I gave a presentation re how some design considerations translate to things we should teach trainers/instructors. #lrnchat
8:39:26 pm trchandler: @JaneBozarth I AM a gadget too. And every argument he’s made so far has made me want to be a gadget even more. #lrnchat
8:39:34 pm kelly_smith01: “Checklist Manifesto” is in my Amazon shopping cart – saw interview in HBR #lrnchat
8:39:39 pm JaneBozarth: Oh and followers: Many tweets forthcoming. Join us! #lrnchat
8:39:40 pm ErickTaft: Erick from NW Arkansas, Org. Effectiveness Consultant. #lrnchat
8:39:45 pm lrnchat: Another way to define crowdsourcing, “The application of open source principles to fields outside of software.” #lrnchat
8:39:47 pm Schnicker: Q0 This week I learned what a favicon is, but I probably should’ve already known #lrnchat
8:39:59 pm tmiket: Next 90 minutes will a the firehose known as #lrnchat
8:40:01 pm marciamarcia: @michelle300 at #TK10, would you send a note as to your physical location? Others looking for the #lrnchat group. c: @webdefender
8:40:03 pm ErickTaft: RT @lrnchat: What is crowdsourcing? Outsourcing work usually performed by one person, instead opened to a large group. #lrnchat
8:40:06 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: What is crowdsourcing? Outsourcing work usually performed by one person, instead opened to a large group. #lrnchat
8:40:09 pm jadekaz: Jade Kazmierski, Milwaukee, corporate ID and elearning, IPT grad student at Boise State #lrnchat
8:40:39 pm nancyrubin: Reading Letting Go of the Words: Writing Web Content that Works (Interactive Technologies) #lrnchat
8:40:49 pm odguru: Re-learned what a kick ass learning show sesame street is… talk about an earworm. http://tiny.cc/mhnX5 #lrnchat
8:40:52 pm TerrenceWing: Share for those of us that don’t know RT @Schnicker: This week I learned what a favicon is, but I probably shouldve already known #lrnchat
8:40:53 pm JaneBozarth: @kelly_smith01 Would loan you mine but it’s on my Kindle. Here, let me hold it up to my webcam. Let me know when to turn page #lrnchat
8:40:57 pm ErickTaft: RT @lrnchat: Another way to define crowdsourcing, “The application of open source principles to fields outside of software.” #lrnchat
8:41:02 pm ajeanne: @jadekaz Go, Boise State!🙂 #lrnchat
8:41:02 pm tmiket: @kelly_smith01 Checklist Manifesto is great all our VPs are reading it now. Cool! #lrnchat
8:41:03 pm sillym0nkey: Just went to the Intrntl Alliance for Learning conference in Houston – it was great! learned tips from Michelle Cummings! #lrnchat
8:41:07 pm kelly_smith01: This week I read many many blogs on informal learning – many written by Jay Cross #lrnchat
8:41:13 pm jkmind: #lrnchat would posting a question to linkedin and getting group understanding of an issue count as crowdsourcing?
8:41:16 pm billcush: Bill Cushard, Charlotte, NC. Head of training for CRM, Salesforce automation and other performance improvement initiatives. #lrnchat
8:41:26 pm LauraMattis: Hi everyone, Laura M., No. VA, ABR, blended & custom learning solutions targeted at improving employee performance are my specialty #lrnchat
8:41:29 pm jadekaz: Q0: Learned that evaluation is a field in and of itself, with grad programs and professional societies #lrnchat
8:41:58 pm lrnchat: Related topic is smart-mob, coined by @hrheingold explaining what often happens here on #lrnchat http://j.mp/smartmob
8:42:02 pm ValerieRoberts: Q0 – Learned that the latest version of the iPhone AroundMe app includes an augmented reality feature. #lrnchat
8:42:12 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Another way to define crowdsourcing, “The application of open source principles to fields outside of software.” #lrnchat
8:42:18 pm tgrevatt: Greetings from Ottawa! It’s brass monkey weather here. Treena G, SoMe & Learning Games enthusiast. #lrnchat
8:42:20 pm eduinnovation: This week I learned…..The learning is in the talk. #lrnchat
8:42:24 pm tmiket: Q0 Learning about Adobe Connect this week. So far pretty nice. #lrnchat
8:42:31 pm kasey428: Reading Made to Stick and it has inspired me to challenge the status quo at work. Woo-hoo! #lrnchat
8:42:34 pm ajeanne: I learned that commandants of Army training schools care deeply about doing a great job with training their people. #lrnchat
8:43:02 pm chrstphr_adams: Wouldn’t the definition require actual work – not just understanding? RT @jkmind: #lrnchat posting a question to linkedin
8:43:06 pm nancyrubin: Crowdsourcing is another form of collaboration – should be easier today – what tools would you use? #lrnchat
8:43:06 pm JaneBozarth: Learned that Twitter friends are just as much fun in person. Thanks for the fun in Toronto! #lrnchat
8:43:16 pm ErickTaft: Crowdsourcing by @Crowdsourcing (Jeff Howe) has some good examples. #lrnchat
8:43:18 pm sillym0nkey: OK – just tried sample of Checklist Manifesto on kindle – i love those samples! I have bought everyone I tried so far #lrnchat
8:43:20 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Another way to define crowdsourcing, “The application of open source principles to fields outside of software.” #lrnchat
8:43:32 pm lrnchat: Q1) How can crowdsourcing assist workplace learning? Personal examples? #lrnchat
8:43:32 pm deb_norton: I learned how do publish my students’ first podcasts! Hello from WI. 5th gr. teacher #lrnchat
8:43:35 pm janet_frg: This week am reading “The Emperor’s New Mind” – interesting. #lrnchat
8:43:36 pm ajeanne: Huh? RT @eduinnovation: This week I learned…..The learning is in the talk. #lrnchat
8:43:44 pm kelly_smith01: @JaneBozarth I am Frozen Caveman reader. Kindle is magic tablet can’t fold corner of page can’t get paper cut #lrnchat
8:43:47 pm michelle300: #lrnchat @marciamarcia @webdefender at #TK10, Physical location >> Currently in Brasilia 6, can meet you in the hallway or rotunda
8:43:47 pm jadekaz: @ajeanne Go Broncos! #lrnchat
8:43:53 pm nickfloro: Q0 learned that in a web conference, not all may be comfortable w/ seeing their own image on screen, so make sure to provide option #lrnchat
8:43:57 pm jadekaz: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can crowdsourcing assist workplace learning? Personal examples? #lrnchat
8:44:00 pm ErickTaft: @kasey428 I like that book & their discussion on how to make things sticky – or not. #lrnchat
8:44:15 pm marciamarcia: This week I realized I’m still in a bit of denial we’re not in Las Vegas for #tk10. Tomorrow when it snows, I’ll know for sure. #lrnchat
8:44:28 pm tmiket: @kasey428 I loved Made to Stick. They have another book coming soon called Switch http://bit.ly/bf7l6E #lrnchat
8:44:34 pm Schnicker: @TerrenceWing Right, so a ‘favicon’ is the little image/icon that appears before a url, in the url box #lrnchat
8:44:59 pm gwoodill: Has anyone tried Amazon’s Mechanical Turk service? – Marketplace for crowdsourcing. #lrnchat
8:45:04 pm jkmind: @chrstphr_adams was asking for purposes of creating argument for client to include ID’s in a project #lrnchat
8:45:06 pm nancyrubin: Learned not all Webinar applications/providers are made equal🙂. What are you using for your web-presentations? #lrnchat
8:45:07 pm jadekaz: RT @lrnchat: Another way to define crowdsourcing, “The application of open source principles to fields outside of software.” #lrnchat
8:45:19 pm chrstphr_adams: Q1) It all depends on the crowd. We crowdsource task analysis to aging experts in nuclear industry as an input to training. #lrnchat
8:45:31 pm sillym0nkey: RT Q0 learned n a web conf, all may be comfortable w/ their image on screen, make sure 2 provide option > & depends on the day #lrnchat
8:45:35 pm JaneBozarth: @kelly_smith01 And can’t use for fuel in fire #lrnchat
8:45:40 pm Priaak: RT @lrnchat Q1) How can crowdsourcing assist workplace learning? Personal examples? #lrnchat
8:45:40 pm ErickTaft: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can crowdsourcing assist workplace learning? Personal examples? #lrnchat
8:45:42 pm billcush: @lrnchat: Q1) Perhaps instead of us providing a list of training opportunities…learners can somehow decide more directly #lrnchat
8:45:47 pm gwoodill: MTurk – https://www.mturk.com/mturk/welcome #lrnchat
8:45:52 pm Spydeesense: Smarcus Sway, film geek & learning industry lollygagger, always late to the party and wondering why the iFuss? #lrnchat
8:45:52 pm Spydeesense: Smarcus Sway, film geek & learning industry lollygagger, always late to the party and wondering why the iFuss? #lrnchat
8:46:13 pm marciamarcia: RT @chrstphr_adams It depends on the crowd. We crowdsource task analysis to aging experts in nuclear industry as input to training. #lrnchat
8:46:24 pm chrstphr_adams: @jkmind Sounds like actual work to me! Thanks for example. #lrnchat
8:46:42 pm sillym0nkey: Centra is my favorite but WebEx is decent #lrnchat
8:46:47 pm SuzNet: Q1 – Crowdsourcing helps by getting multiple POVs in a short amount of time, whole>sum of the parts #lrnchat
8:46:47 pm Spydeesense: This week I learned I can operate on no sleep and still make enough sense to be dangerous in any given training situation #lrnchat
8:46:52 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can crowdsourcing assist workplace learning? Personal examples? #lrnchat
8:46:53 pm jadekaz: Q1 What are some examples of what crowdsourcing would look like for training? Like wikis? SharePoint? #lrnchat
8:47:09 pm tmiket: Q1 Learning from each other sounds obvious but is quite challenging in most big orgs #lrnchat
8:47:09 pm TerrenceWing: Crowd Sourcing exponentially increases the asset of expertise #lrnchat
8:47:24 pm marciamarcia: RT @billcush Perhaps instead of us providing a list of training opps, learners can decide more directly [thru crowdsourcing] #lrnchat
8:47:26 pm hjarche: open source developer community was 1st to have mass distributed volunteers for projects: look at their work/sharing practices #lrnchat
8:47:34 pm tmiket: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can crowdsourcing assist workplace learning? Personal examples? #lrnchat
8:47:56 pm marciamarcia: RT @TerrenceWing Crowdsourcing exponentially increases the asset of expertise. #lrnchat
8:47:57 pm eduinnovation: The crowd provides access to high levels of cognitive diversity, experiences, perspectives, ideas from which to learn from. #lrnchat
8:47:58 pm TerrenceWing: Thanks RT @Schnicker Right, so a ‘favicon’ is the little image/icon that appears before a url, in the url box #lrnchat
8:47:58 pm sillym0nkey: Q1) How can crowdsourcing assist workplace learning? Use the early adopters to evangelize for you #lrnchat
8:48:05 pm jaycross: Q1) Crowd sourcing could apply the 80/20 rule to course offerings; identify the turkeys. #lrnchat
8:48:10 pm trchandler: Any successful examples of crowdsourcing within an organization? #lrnchat
8:48:14 pm billcush: @chrstphr_adams Q1) do you mean the aging experts contribute to the training from their experience…real world examples? #lrnchat
8:48:15 pm jkmind: @tmiket seems to me the most common use might be individuals going outside the org and asking a community for help #lrnchat
8:48:24 pm simbeckhampson: RT @Spydeesense: This week I learned I can operate on no sleep and still make enough sense to be dangerous in any given training situation #lrnchat
8:48:29 pm chrstphr_adams: Should attribute “depends on the crowd” to @guywallace #lrnchat
8:48:30 pm odguru: Learning is sometimes a bi-product. Have used crowdso for new prod devo, but people learned lots about puts and takes of the biz #lrnchat
8:48:37 pm ajeanne: Q1) I wish I had examples of crowdsourcing & workplace learning. #lrnchat
8:48:47 pm gwoodill: Isn’t the Internet an example of crowdsourcing? And collaboration with cloud computing. Maybe we are doing it already… #lrnchat
8:49:00 pm kasey428: RT @jaycross: Q1) Crowd sourcing could apply the 80/20 rule to course offerings; identify the turkeys. #lrnchat
8:49:09 pm hjarche: all of my learning is informal & crowd-sourced – but I filter like crazy to get the good stuff #lrnchat
8:49:12 pm ErickTaft: RT @gwoodill: Isnt the Internet an example of crowdsourcing? And collaboration with cloud computing. Maybe we are doing it already #lrnchat
8:49:18 pm ValerieRoberts: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How can crowdsourcing assist workplace learning? Personal examples? #lrnchat
8:49:19 pm usablelearning: What she said: RT @ajeanne Q1) I wish I had examples of crowdsourcing & workplace learning. #lrnchat
8:49:37 pm billcush: Now this is a great idea! RT @jaycross: Q1) Crowd sourcing could apply the 80/20 rule to course offerings; identify the turkeys. #lrnchat
8:49:37 pm nancyrubin: Expert Networks are easier to maintain today as are PLE’s…ideally, when you need a “crowd” they should be easy to find! #lrnchat
8:49:48 pm chrstphr_adams: @billcush Massive amounts of process, tech, and history are undocumented in power industry. We set a framework and they fill in. #lrnchat
8:49:54 pm ajeanne: @usablelearning🙂🙂 #lrnchat
8:49:55 pm LauraMattis: Me too! New topic for me🙂 RT @ajeanne: Q1) I wish I had examples of crowdsourcing & workplace learning. #lrnchat
8:50:09 pm teachernz: RT @eduinnovation: The crowd provides access to high levels of cognitive diversity, experiences, perspectives, ideas from which to learn from. #lrnchat
8:50:13 pm marciamarcia: @tmiket Er um, people are learning from one another now. You couldn’t stop that if you wanted to. #lrnchat #thinkdifferent
8:50:21 pm SuzNet: Q1 A consultng grp I belong to meets monthly to ask questions, get answers from the crowd, leave w implementable solns #lrnchat
8:50:33 pm tmiket: @jkmind agreed but wouldn’t an org be better if the people inside it could apply their collective knowledge? #lrnchat
8:50:35 pm marciamarcia: RT @michelle300: #lrnchat @marciamarcia @webdefender at #TK10, Physical location >> Currently in Brasilia 6, can meet you in the hallway or rotunda
8:50:47 pm simbeckhampson: RT @ErickTaft: RT @gwoodill: Isnt the Internet an example of crowdsourcing? And collaboration with cloud computing. Maybe we are doing it already #lrnchat
8:50:48 pm Spydeesense: Q1 So what’s the corporate version of Wikipedia out there? #lrnchat
8:50:55 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) I imagine a “crowd” of sales reps providing work experience stories on a performance issue – maybe selling to new market. #lrnchat
8:51:03 pm simbeckhampson: RT @hjarche: all of my learning is informal & crowd-sourced – but I filter like crazy to get the good stuff #lrnchat
8:51:04 pm tgrevatt: I see crowd-sourcing in action on Twttr often (& do it) – especially recommendations for tools/solns/idea solicitation etc #lrnchat
8:51:21 pm Priaak: RT @hjarche all of my learning is informal & crowd-sourced – but I filter like crazy to get the good stuff #lrnchat
8:51:35 pm ajeanne: Q1) I used crowdsourcing for finding news on the Ft. Hood tragedy & Haiti as they unfolded. That was just info & news, though. #lrnchat
8:51:59 pm wlonline: Q1 Benefits from expertise not within organisation #lrnchat
8:52:12 pm usablelearning: Fondest dream for crowdsourcing&learning – actually payoff on that promise of customized, individualized instruction in e-Learning #lrnchat
8:52:13 pm marciamarcia: RT @eduinnovation: crowd provides access to high levels of cognitive diversity, experiences, perspectives, ideas to learn from #lrnchat
8:52:17 pm ajeanne: @Spydeesense Corporate Wikipedia might be stuff on their Intranet. #lrnchat
8:52:19 pm hjarche: crowd-sourcing for learnin’ v1.0 a feed reader, v1.1 a delicious network, v1.2 a blog community, v1.3 a twitter community, etc. #lrnchat
8:52:20 pm jadekaz: Suck-ipedia RT @Spydeesense: Q1 So whats the corporate version of Wikipedia out there? #lrnchat
8:52:26 pm tmiket: @marciamarcia Yes – don’t you think most big orgs could do MUCH better tho? #lrnchat
8:52:31 pm JaneBozarth: Q1) I use Twitter quite often to solve a prob/get info. #lrnchat
8:52:38 pm ErickTaft: @Spydeesense Isn’t that the model of crowdsourcing? #lrnchat
8:52:42 pm ValerieRoberts: RT @tgrevatt: I see crowd-sourcing in action on Twttr often (& do it) – esp recommendations for tools/solns/idea solicitation etc #lrnchat
8:52:43 pm billcush: @chrstphr_adams Good idea. I imagine the experts either are too busy to participate or are happy to share expertise. #lrnchat
8:52:47 pm kasey428: RT @tgrevatt: …crowd-sourcing in action on Twttr often (& do it) – especially recommendations 4 tools/solns/idea solicitation etc #lrnchat
8:53:01 pm trchandler: I see an opportunity to publish early drafts of curriculum and get input from the field. Crowdediting vs. Crowsourcing #lrnchat
8:53:02 pm ajeanne: Q1) I use my TweetDeck #lrnchat column to see what folks here are thinking about during the week. #lrnchat
8:53:08 pm jkmind: #lrnchat seems crowdsourcing, opensource and alot of social media are very similar. Just a semantic difference?
8:53:09 pm jadekaz: RT @hjarche: crowdsourcing for learnin v1.0 a feed reader, v1.1 a delicious network, v1.2 a blog community v1.3 a twitter community #lrnchat
8:53:12 pm odguru: RT @hjarche: crowd-sourcing 4 learnin v1.0 a feed reader, v1.1 delicious network, v1.2 blog community, v1.3 twitter community,etc. #lrnchat
8:53:13 pm marciamarcia: RT @hjarche all of my learning is informal & crowd-sourced but I filter like crazy to get the good stuff #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:53:24 pm Schnicker: Me too for sure RT @JaneBozarth: Q1) I use Twitter quite often to solve a prob/get info. #lrnchat
8:53:26 pm chrstphr_adams: UUNet listservs were a great crowdsourcing tool for scientists and researchers decades ago. #lrnchat
8:53:26 pm sillym0nkey: I just started reading Wisdom of Crowds – good stuff about how the group can know more than the individual #lrnchat
8:53:34 pm JaneBozarth: @trchandler I embrace my gadgetness. #lrnchat
8:53:35 pm kelly_smith01: With other consultants we took a “required” test as a group (after working 16 hours) and completed test by deadline #lrnchat
8:53:36 pm jaycross: I think of crowd sourcing as tapping the wisdom of the crowd, not getting one idea by asking a large group. How many beans in jar? #lrnchat
8:53:44 pm simbeckhampson: Somehow I find myself here and not in bed…funny that! Good evening from Bavaria. #lrnchat
8:53:46 pm SuzNet: Q1 watercooler chats are a form of crowdsourcing, gossip can lead to interesting new ideas #lrnchat
8:53:54 pm MLx: Q1) our staff uses Drupal as a mass collaboration tool…we archive knowledge. #lrnchat
8:53:56 pm ErickTaft: Maybe. Thoughts? RT @jkmind: seems crowdsourcing, opensource and alot of social media are very similar. #lrnchat
8:53:59 pm gwoodill: There was an article on crowdsourcing and work in the Sept. 4th 2008 Economist. Lots of examples. #lrnchat
8:54:01 pm ajeanne: Q1) One of our SM folks was having a dialogue with two ISPI past-presidents who were helping him write a proposal last week. #lrnchat
8:54:10 pm TerrenceWing: Crowd Sourcing via the back channel can steer a facilitator/trnr to what the learners want during training #lrnchat
8:54:12 pm Spydeesense: @ErickTaft It is but I haven’t found the application of it…yet #lrnchat
8:54:17 pm wlonline: RT @marciamarcia: RT @hjarche all of my learning is informal & crowd-sourced but I filter like crazy to get the good stuff #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:54:18 pm tgrevatt: Orgs can use wiki’s behind firewalls for internal crowd sourcing but UI often ugly for non-techies & diff to get participation #lrnchat
8:54:22 pm ValerieRoberts: RT @SuzNet: Q1 watercooler chats are a form of crowdsourcing, gossip can lead to interesting new ideas #lrnchat
8:54:38 pm kasey428: Twitter serves as a note taker, compendium of links, expert ideas, professional connections for me #lrnchat
8:54:44 pm marciamarcia: @tmiket All of us, no matter org size, could do much MORE [if not better] learning from one another. #lrnchat
8:54:56 pm wlonline: Crowdsourcing an informal community of practice for eg #lrnchat…
8:54:57 pm janet_frg: @tmiket agreed about the benefits of utilizing internal collective knowledge. Putting it into practice is easier said than done. #lrnchat
8:54:58 pm simbeckhampson: I had a hardware problem yesterday. Put it out on twitter and got the best support ever in 45 seconds! #lrnchat
8:55:18 pm ErickTaft: The crowd should have an interest in what you are sourcing. #lrnchat
8:55:24 pm marciamarcia: RT @kasey428 Twitter serves as a note taker, compendium of links, expert ideas, professional connections #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:55:28 pm kelly_smith01: Crowdsourcing identify key issue then identify one or more solutions for one or more conditions #lrnchat
8:55:29 pm TerrenceWing: Or destructive RT @ValerieRoberts @SuzNet: Q1 watercooler chats r a form of crowdsourcing, gossip can lead to interesting new ideas #lrnchat
8:55:29 pm ajeanne: RT @kasey428: Twitter serves as a note taker, compendium of links, expert ideas, professional connections for me #lrnchat
8:55:30 pm tmiket: True > RT @marciamarcia: @tmiket All of us, no matter org size, could do much MORE [if not better] learning from one another #lrnchat
8:55:31 pm jsuzcampos: Q0) Jeannette Campos, NH, better late than never … lurking tonight while stampeding my task list #lrnchat
8:55:40 pm hjarche: @MLx agree that archiving knowledge artifacts is good, as long as they can be, and are, retrieved #lrnchat
8:55:40 pm chrstphr_adams: Only for very brave facilitators! RT @TerrenceWing: Crowd Sourcing via the back channel #lrnchat
8:55:48 pm trchandler: another challenge of crowdsourcing within an organization is getting others to participate #lrnchat
8:55:55 pm ajeanne: Great! RT @simbeckhampson: I had a hardware problem yesterday. Put it out on twitter and got the best support ever in 45 seconds! #lrnchat
8:55:56 pm simbeckhampson: RT @marciamarcia: RT @kasey428 Twitter serves as a note taker, compendium of links, expert ideas, professional connections #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:56:06 pm mrch0mp3rs: #lrnchat Q1 For me, crowdsourcing is vetting ideas among experts (how I work with you guys). For my org, crowdsourcing is still emerging.
8:56:11 pm jadekaz: I imagine that crowdsourcing and succession planning could be friends. Need to elicit all that tacit knowledge before retirement. #lrnchat
8:56:15 pm LauraMattis: Agree, always something 2 learn RT @marciamarcia: @tmiket All of us, no matter org size, could do much MORE learning from 1 another #lrnchat
8:56:19 pm marciamarcia: @simbeckhampson Weren’t you suppose to be sleeping?! #lrnchat
8:56:23 pm chrstphr_adams: Does crowdsourcing imply “getting free work in small pieces from a community?” #lrnchat
8:56:25 pm JaneBozarth: @chrstphr_adams Yep– you can improve outcomes without increasing skill. Trainers should pay attention to that… #lrnchat
8:56:25 pm mrch0mp3rs: Oh, btw, Aaron Silvers, Chicago. yadda yadda yadda #lrnchat
8:56:40 pm simbeckhampson: @ajeanne I was quite amazed. He stayed with me for at least an hour to help! #lrnchat
8:56:42 pm minutebio: RT @trchandler: another challenge of crowdsourcing w-in an organization is getting others to participate// experiencing it w Yammer #lrnchat
8:56:44 pm Schnicker: If you haven’t guessed already I’m in my weekly #lrnchat so pls excuse my next few / last few seemingly disjointed tweets
8:57:01 pm marciamarcia: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Crowdsourcing is vetting ideas among experts (how I work with u guys). For my org, crowdsourcing is still emerging. #lrnchat
8:57:05 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) encouraging “crowdsourcing” in the undergrad course i am teaching … students VERY reluctant, unsure, hesitant. #lrnchat
8:57:11 pm simbeckhampson: @marciamarcia Was designing my Ning Site and and, well you know… Ahhh ADDICT #lrnchat
8:57:12 pm tmiket: @trchandler Yes plus the crowd is much smaller inside than outside any org #lrnchat
8:57:19 pm odguru: Mulit-site HC network crowdsourcd a toolkit 4 dealing w stroke in aboriginal communities in >2 months. http://www.linkhealthpro.com #lrnchat
8:57:25 pm JaneBozarth: @simbeckhampson I thought you were asleep? #lrnchat #cantstayaway
8:57:35 pm TerrenceWing: Biggest obstacle to crowd sourcing is too much ownership in the answer. Those that participate usually do so selflessly #lrnchat
8:57:42 pm JaneBozarth: RT @chrstphr_adams: Does crowdsourcing imply “getting free work in small pieces from a community?” #lrnchat
8:57:52 pm billcush: Q1) Can crowdsourcing be as simple as asking employees what they “want” as in a survey or is it an ongoing process? #lrnchat
8:57:53 pm jkmind: #lrnchat could ones personal social network count as a running crowdsource discussion or is it more answer a question and move on?
8:57:57 pm ajeanne: Q1) For capturing the composed expertise of true experts, crowdsourcing probably not a helpful method except for fleeting help. #lrnchat
8:58:01 pm jadekaz: @trchandler: Ooooh. You have Yammer? Who let that in the door🙂 #lrnchat
8:58:03 pm mrch0mp3rs: @minutebio @trchandler Getting others to participate, or keeping people participating? #lrnchat
8:58:22 pm odguru: RT @TerrenceWing: Biggest obstacle is too much ownership in the answer. Those that participate usually do so selflessly <<say more #lrnchat
8:58:27 pm trchandler: @minutebio We use Yammer within our organization, but I find I spend a lot of time offline encouraging others to join #lrnchat
8:58:28 pm kelly_smith01: Through #lrnchat crowd sourcing I have a better picture of crowdsourcing – from at least three continents #lrnchat
8:58:39 pm JaneBozarth: RT @jadekaz: imagine crowdsourcing & succession planning could be friends. Need 2 elicit all that tacit knowledge B4 retirement. #lrnchat
8:58:41 pm simbeckhampson: @JaneBozarth Erm…I should be…really. But erm well I'm not, I'm learning!🙂 #lrnchat
8:58:48 pm jsuzcampos: RT @TerrenceWing: Biggest obstacle to crowd sourcing is too much ownership in the answer. Requires selfless participation #lrnchat
8:58:50 pm minutebio: RT @mrch0mp3rs: @minutebio @trchandler Getting others to participate, or keeping people participating?// Keeping #lrnchat
8:58:52 pm ErickTaft: @billcush I would think it is an ongoing process – as long as the it being crowdsourced is still relevant. #lrnchat
8:58:59 pm chrstphr_adams: @jsuzcampos We crowdsourced continually and voluntarily in high school. Silly teachers called it "cheating!" #lrnchat
8:58:59 pm tmiket: Technically its NOT in the door right? RT @jadekaz: @trchandler: Ooooh. You have Yammer? Who let that in the door #lrnchat
8:59:03 pm odguru: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @chrstphr_adams: Does crowdsourcing imply "getting free work in small pieces from a community?" #lrnchat
8:59:07 pm trchandler: @minutebio although we are starting to get some momentum on Yammer with a few Senior Execs supporting #lrnchat
8:59:14 pm usablelearning: @chrstphr_adams Is it "free work" if it's within an organization? #lrnchat
8:59:22 pm mrch0mp3rs: @TerrenceWing "ownership" – implying the "how "of the answer over the "what" perhaps? #lrnchat
8:59:28 pm marciamarcia: RT @kelly_smith01: Through #lrnchat crowd sourcing I have a better picture of crowdsourcing, from at least 3 continents.
8:59:30 pm JaneBozarth: RT @TerrenceWing: Biggest obstacle to crowd sourcing is too much ownership in the answer. Requires selfless participation #lrnchat
8:59:34 pm odguru: RT @jadekaz: crowdsourcing & succession planning could be friends. Need 2 elicit all that tacit knowledge B4 retirement. YES #lrnchat
8:59:35 pm simbeckhampson: @kelly_smith01 Evening again! Zzzzz #lrnchat
8:59:39 pm JaneBozarth: RT @kelly_smith01: Through #lrnchat crowd sourcing I have a better picture of crowdsourcing – from at least three continents #lrnchat
8:59:56 pm billcush: In real time RT @kelly_smith01: Through #lrnchat crowd sourcing I have a better picture of crowdsourcing-frm at least three continents
8:59:57 pm minutebio: RT @trchandler: We use Yammer w-in our org, but find I spend lot of time offline encouraging others to join// Same here & thn 2 use #lrnchat
9:00:04 pm ErickTaft: RT @TerrenceWing: Biggest obstacle to crowd sourcing is too much ownership in the answer. Requires selfless participation #lrnchat
9:00:08 pm TerrenceWing: More like the who RT @mrch0mp3rs: "ownership" – implying the "how "of the answer over the "what" perhaps? #lrnchat
9:00:09 pm simbeckhampson: @trchandler I dont work for a big company so have not yet used yammer, cant really imagine it? #lrnchat
9:00:09 pm trchandler: @jadekaz clever salesmanship on my part. Yammer is more "private" and "controlled" than twitter. #lrnchat
9:00:23 pm chrstphr_adams: @usablelearning That's just it! There's always a cost – but maybe I can use a crowd that's not part of my budget? #lrnchat
9:00:27 pm kasey428: the crowd is non-existent within my organization, but is quite large elsewhere including here #lrnchat
9:00:36 pm gwoodill: One interesting area for crowdsourcing is found by searching on "citizen science". Especially using mobile phones. #lrnchat
9:00:37 pm kelly_smith01: RT @TerrenceWing: Biggest obstacle to crowd sourcing is too much ownership in the answer. Requires selfless participation #lrnchat
9:00:43 pm teachernz: #lrnchat i think of crowdsourcing as a kind of torrenting…
9:00:44 pm marciamarcia: RT @TerrenceWing: Biggest obstacle to crowd sourcing is too much ownership in the answer. Requires selfless participation. #lrnchat
9:00:49 pm mrch0mp3rs: @minutebio I've been thinking about that lately, too. "Experts" avoiding the system. Keeping the virtuous circle for the community #lrnchat
9:01:19 pm mrch0mp3rs: @teachernz Oh, dude, +1 for the avatar. Righteous #lrnchat
9:01:22 pm MLx: @hjarche right, it may take a while for staff to embrace the tool #lrnchat
9:01:26 pm lrnchat: Q2) Are there times when crowdsourcing isn't helpful? Specifics welcome. #lrnchat
9:01:34 pm billcush: Good call.RT @ErickTaft: @billcush I would think it is an ongoing process-as long as the it being crowdsourced is still relevant. #lrnchat
9:01:37 pm sillym0nkey: RT @TerrenceWing: Biggest obstacle 2crowd sourcing is 2much ownership n answer. Requires selfless participation < &a prob in mtgs #lrnchat
9:01:37 pm trchandler: We compared Linked In private groups, set up a private blog and Yammer. All free and didn't need IT support. #lrnchat
9:01:47 pm tmiket: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there times when crowdsourcing isn't helpful? Specifics welcome. #lrnchat
9:01:47 pm kasey428: some see knowledge as a private possession to be sold or leveraged, not shared. #lrnchat
9:02:00 pm ErickTaft: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there times when crowdsourcing isnt helpful? Specifics welcome. #lrnchat
9:02:07 pm odguru: @TerrenceWing re: ownership -2 little is an issue 2..maybe middle ground is passion for the topic, less involvement in the tactics? #lrnchat
9:02:11 pm simbeckhampson: @teachernz Good evening to you sir! Nice to see ya to see ya nice! #lrnchat
9:02:14 pm trchandler: Yammer was blessed by our IT department as secure as email. #lrnchat
9:02:19 pm ValerieRoberts: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there times when crowdsourcing isnt helpful? Specifics welcome. #lrnchat
9:02:21 pm jadekaz: @trchandler Good for you. I hope it's successful – we could use some good case studies! Get the right ppl to join & rest follow. #lrnchat
9:02:28 pm mrch0mp3rs: @TerrenceWing In the circle you're crowdsourcing – what's their bigger goal? Tactical, Operational or Strategic? #lrnchat
9:02:28 pm sillym0nkey: Crowdsourcing allows avenue for new experts to speak up #lrnchat
9:02:28 pm eduinnovation: Seems the larger the crowd, the more specific, targeted, and focused the goal/problem to be solved or achieved must be. #lrnchat
9:02:33 pm usablelearning: @chrstphr_adams "silly teachers called it "cheating!"" – ever read "Academic Perestroika" – beautiful on that http://bit.ly/dvbo6s #lrnchat
9:02:34 pm tmiket: Q2 Time could constrain opportunity to crowed source #lrnchat
9:02:39 pm SuzNet: RT @kasey428: some see knowledge as a private possession to be sold or leveraged, not shared. #lrnchat
9:02:41 pm jsuzcampos: Q2) Unhelpful crowdsourcing .. someone (or some process) must keep the community it honest. #lrnchat
9:02:44 pm kelly_smith01: The true experts will always be part of the crowd in a successful crowdsourcing "event" #lrnchat
9:03:06 pm odguru: Not helpful when becomes a total bitch session. #lrnchat
9:03:09 pm marciamarcia: Related to Q2 (when is crowdsourcing not helpful), I get asked often when the "group" is actually the obstacle. Thoughts? #lrnchat
9:03:10 pm jadekaz: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there times when crowdsourcing isnt helpful? Specifics welcome. #lrnchat
9:03:12 pm ErickTaft: RT@kasey428: some see knowledge as a private possession to be sold or leveraged, not shared. <- That is frustrating. #lrnchat
9:03:13 pm kasey428: Yammer was reluctantly approved by IT, but it hasn't caught on at work. People don't understand it. #lrnchat
9:03:16 pm minutebio: RT @mrch0mp3rs: "Experts" avoiding the system. // Our experts don't seem to value system or wierarchy (I know-drink) #lrnchat
9:03:24 pm Spydeesense: @ajeanne But can employees add, edit, delete content on the Intranet? I personally would love that #lrnchat
9:03:41 pm JaneBozarth: Is now a good time to bring up the teacher who proudly developed "Google-Proof" test questions? #lrnchat
9:03:42 pm simbeckhampson: What about Google Wave. That has to be the tool of the future for crowd sourcing? One click and your private too… #lrnchat
9:03:48 pm gwoodill: The criticism of crowdsourcing is the reduction of everything to amateur level. Sometimes a superior performance is better. #lrnchat
9:03:49 pm trchandler: Correct RT @tmiket: Technically its NOT in the door right? RT @jadekaz: @trchandler: You have Yammer? Who let that in the door #lrnchat
9:03:58 pm billcush: Q2) What if we "know" the crowd is wrong? RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there times when crowdsourcing isn't helpful? Specifics welcome. #lrnchat
9:03:58 pm jadekaz: Q2 Let me count the ways. One way: when culture doesn't support sharing. #lrnchat
9:04:02 pm hjarche: @MLx my experience is that any KM tool has to decrease workload or give exceptional results to be embraced #lrnchat
9:04:03 pm MLx: Q2) sensitive personnel issues probably shouldn't be crowdsourced #lrnchat
9:04:07 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) When the question (or issue) presented to the crowd has bias or lacks clarity #lrnchat
9:04:10 pm JaneBozarth: Q2) Sometimes that crowd goes off-task… #lrnchat
9:04:17 pm ajeanne: Q2) If you need real info from experts, crowdsourcing may be too informal to get the straight scoop. #lrnchat
9:04:21 pm ErickTaft: 2) Unsuccessful when the crowd is stuck in an echo-chamber or engaging in group-think. #lrnchat
9:04:22 pm nickfloro: Q1- internal using campfire, team can participate, provide feedback on ideas, concepts, designs or solving problems. Testing wave #lrnchat
9:04:25 pm odguru: @JaneBozarth LOL I didn't know there was such a thing as Google-proof! #lrnchat
9:04:31 pm minutebio: RT @jadekaz: Q2 Let me count the ways. One way: when culture doesnt support sharing. #lrnchat
9:04:43 pm sillym0nkey: RT jadekaz: Q2 Let me count the ways. One way: when culture doesn't support sharing. #lrnchat
9:04:45 pm ErickTaft: @kelly_smith01 What about lacking context? #lrnchat
9:04:46 pm simbeckhampson: @kasey428 That's possibly why it's not be used, the word "reluctantly" #lrnchat
9:04:48 pm Schnicker: Q2) Crowdsourcing, not helpful when everyone wants something different so can't agree & can't move forward #lrnchat
9:04:54 pm tmiket: Yes!! RT @hjarche: @MLx my experience is that any KM tool has to decrease workload or give exceptional results to be embraced #lrnchat
9:04:55 pm tgrevatt: Q2 crowd sourcing not helpful if request poorly framed, can take a few goes to get similar understanding of issue #lrnchat
9:04:57 pm mrch0mp3rs: #lrnchat Q2: Crowdsourcing doesn't help if you lack the karma for it to work. Also a problem if you're asking a permission question.
9:05:01 pm jsuzcampos: RT @ErickTaft: 2) Unsuccessful when the crowd is stuck in an echo-chamber or engaging in group-think. #lrnchat
9:05:06 pm trchandler: Q2) just making sense and order out of the large amount of chaotic information #lrnchat
9:05:20 pm Spydeesense: @kasey428 I once heard something about Yammer across the enterprise wasn't that you @mrch0mp3rs? #lrnchat
9:05:27 pm simbeckhampson: @gwoodill Could you expand the last comment, please. #lrnchat
9:05:31 pm odguru: @TerrenceWing Just keep sayin clever things🙂 #lrnchat
9:05:41 pm chrstphr_adams: Q2) As was mentioned in earlier #lrnchat – crowdsourcing not effective in planes headed for the Hudson. #lrnchat
9:05:48 pm sillym0nkey: Q2) Crowdsourcing, not helpful when people don't want to play – probably a bigger systems problem there #lrnchat
9:05:53 pm minutebio: Q2) When crowd is disengaged. When crowd is afraid of the ramifications of what they may say "wrong" #lrnchat
9:06:01 pm ValerieRoberts: Q2 – What if there's just not much crowd participation? #lrnchat
9:06:02 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) If the crowdsourcing "event" does not have a strong moderator or someway to record and review crowd discusion/dialog/etc. #lrnchat
9:06:14 pm jadekaz: Q2: Also tough in production environment where numbers matter and no time for anything but bathroom breaks. #lrnchat
9:06:24 pm sillym0nkey: Q2) Crowdsourcing, not helpful when there are too many yes men/women #lrnchat
9:06:26 pm kelly_smith01: RT @minutebio: Q2) When crowd is disengaged. When crowd is afraid of the ramifications of what they may say "wrong" #lrnchat
9:06:29 pm Schnicker: oooh who developed google-proof test questions? @JaneBozarth #lrnchat
9:06:33 pm JaneBozarth: @odguru He was very proud. #lrnchat
9:06:34 pm usablelearning: Suspect that most larger organization will want moderation of crowdsourced learning (sometimes rightly) #lrnchat
9:06:38 pm barryshieldsnc: Q2)Not good when you want to protect copyright. Do you agree? #lrnchat
9:06:42 pm mrch0mp3rs: Q2: Crowdsourcing doesn't help if you either have a homegenous crowd or just not an actual crowd. #lrnchat
9:06:51 pm mrch0mp3rs: @Spydeesense I dunno. Could be🙂 #lrnchat
9:06:53 pm TerrenceWing: It all comes down to outcomes RT @mrch0mp3rs In the circle you're crowdsourcing – what's bigger goal? #lrnchat
9:06:54 pm enzofsilva: Not sure we can call any type of free info exchange "crowdsourcing." Not without a common "product" being built. @tgrevatt #lrnchat oops
9:06:59 pm Callooh: Q2. when crowdsourcing flawed. Expecting people w/o expertise to form policy recommendations #lrnchat
9:06:59 pm odguru: RT @sillym0nkey: Q2) Crowdsourcing, not helpful when people dont want to play – Yes – when you've been volun-told. #lrnchat
9:07:04 pm ErickTaft: Sometimes when the crowd appears to "go off track" they are talking about root causes? #lrnchat
9:07:13 pm kasey428: Q2 there is conflict as to best of practice. Can digress to a ‘we say,’ ‘they say’ see-saw #lrnchat
9:07:18 pm MLx: @hjarche very tempted to say we’ve gotten exceptional results with Drupal Groups.🙂 #lrnchat
9:07:29 pm TerrenceWing: I’ll try but it hurts my head RT @odguru: @TerrenceWing Just keep sayin clever things🙂 #lrnchat
9:07:34 pm jkmind: #lrnchat q2 read interesting article that DOD has hgher use rate for SM that prvte companies. Things like to twitter found very interesting
9:07:34 pm SuzNet: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q2: Crowdsourcing doesnt help if you either have a homegenous crowd or just not an actual crowd. #lrnchat
9:07:48 pm sillym0nkey: I like volun-told! funny #lrnchat
9:07:50 pm minutebio: RT @usablelearning: Suspect tht most larger org wll wnt moderation of crowdsourced learnng (sometimes rightly)// that’s my org #lrnchat
9:07:53 pm mrch0mp3rs: Q2: Crowdsourcing doesn’t help if it’s not really encouraged culturally. #lrnchat
9:07:54 pm jadekaz: RT @odguru: RT @sillym0nkey: Q2) Crowdsourcing, not helpful when people dont want to play – Yes – when youve been volun-told. #lrnchat
9:08:07 pm tmiket: Q2 Ultimately someONE needs to make the call don’t they? #lrnchat
9:08:13 pm ajeanne: Q2) Crowdsourcing won’t help if you have a bunch of idiots in the crowd.🙂 #lrnchat
9:08:18 pm hjarche: @MLx congrats! #lrnchat
9:08:23 pm gwoodill: @simbeckhampson See: The Cult of the Amateur: How blogs, MySpace, YouTube, etc.are destroying our economy, culture, etc. #lrnchat
9:08:25 pm billcush: Q2) If you crowdsource 8 years olds…cheeseburgers, french fries and milkshakes are necessary for survival 3 meals a day. #lrnchat
9:08:27 pm jadekaz: Q2: Won’t work in a one-person office. ba da dum #lrnchat
9:08:27 pm kelly_smith01: @ErickTaft Agree – There must be a context to question/issue presented – and make sure crowd “understands” question/issue #lrnchat
9:08:44 pm mrch0mp3rs: @TerrenceWing Outcomes sound very tactical. Need a bigger, more inclusive purpose to get over the hump (perhaps). #lrnchat
9:08:53 pm jkmind: #lrnchat are wiki’s crowd sourcing?
9:09:00 pm ValerieRoberts: RT @ajeanne: Q2) Crowdsourcing wont help if you have a bunch of idiots in the crowd.🙂 #lrnchat
9:09:01 pm ajeanne: RT @gwoodill: @simbeckhampson See: The Cult of the Amateur: How blogs, MySpace, YouTube, etc.are destroying our economy, culture.. #lrnchat
9:09:02 pm JaneBozarth: @Schnicker Google-proof test questions http://bit.ly/3wzuD #lrnchat
9:09:03 pm chrstphr_adams: Q2) Crowd can’t help where there’s no defined work product. SHOULD be a bit like assembly line, but on a massive scale. #lrnchat
9:09:14 pm JaneBozarth: @Schnicker I googled that to get it for you. #lrnchat
9:09:22 pm simbeckhampson: Second Life is just about the purest form of crowdsourcing. Agree? #lrnchat
9:09:35 pm sillym0nkey: RT @ajeanne: Q2) Crowdsourcing wont help if you have a bunch of idiots in the crowd.🙂 #lrnchat
9:09:37 pm TerrenceWing: Political views. RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there times when crowdsourcing isn’t helpful? Specifics welcome. #lrnchat
9:09:39 pm odguru: RT @billcush: Q2) If you crowdsource 8 years olds… the word bum comes up a lot. #lrnchat
9:09:41 pm gwoodill: @simbeckhampson http://www.amazon.com/Cult-Amateur-MySpace-user-generated-destroying/dp/0385520816 – other side CS #lrnchat
9:10:00 pm mrch0mp3rs: Needs Community Manager? RT @kasey428: Q2 there is conflict as to best of practice. Can digress to a ‘we say,’ ‘they say’ see-saw #lrnchat
9:10:03 pm odguru: RT @JaneBozarth: @Schnicker I googled that to get it for you. << hahaha #lrnchat
9:10:12 pm Schnicker: @JaneBozarth ha, thanks Jane #lrnchat
9:10:14 pm jsuzcampos: RT @odguru: RT @billcush: Q2) If you crowdsource 8 years olds… the word bum comes up a lot. ( and booger) #lrnchat
9:10:19 pm oline73: @marciamarcia Our students interviewed Jeff Howe this week about #crowdsourcing http://bit.ly/3x4sB2 #lrnchat
9:10:21 pm kasey428: RT @TerrenceWing: Political views. RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there times when crowdsourcing isnt helpful? Specifics welcome. #lrnchat
9:10:25 pm kelly_smith01: @JaneBozarth @Schnicker Google proof crowds? #lrnchat
9:10:34 pm trchandler: Q2) just like in meetings the loudest voice can shout out others #lrnchat
9:10:49 pm ErickTaft: @kelly_smith01 Almost like a Seth Godin tribe – a crowd of individuals that get the context and culture and grasp the problem #lrnchat
9:10:56 pm chrstphr_adams: @usablelearning Thanks for the link. Academic Perestroika is classic. #lrnchat
9:10:57 pm JaneBozarth: Many villages have more than one idiot. #lrnchat
9:11:16 pm odguru: RT @kelly_smith01: @JaneBozarth @Schnicker Google proof crowds? <<Kind of interesting value prop. Can't find ANYWHERE but here… #lrnchat
9:11:17 pm tonnet: RT @JaneBozarth: Many villages have more than one idiot. #lrnchat
9:11:25 pm kasey428: RT @JaneBozarth: Many villages have more than one idiot. #lrnchat
9:11:32 pm kelly_smith01: @trchandler Or the fasted texter when in social media #lrnchat
9:11:34 pm ajeanne: Q2) Crowdsourcing also won't help if yo don't know how to separate the wheat from the chaff–which CAN take expertise already. #lrnchat
9:11:38 pm SuzNet: RT @JaneBozarth: Many villages have more than one idiot. #lrnchat
9:11:40 pm TerrenceWing: Crowdsourcing is not useful if it isolates part of your workforce who isn't being tapped 4 their exp or knowledge #lrnchat
9:11:43 pm chrstphr_adams: RT @JaneBozarth: Many villages have more than one idiot. #lrnchat
9:11:46 pm mrch0mp3rs: So can crowdsourcing even work without some kind of authority "in the room?" #lrnchat
9:11:48 pm minutebio: RT @JaneBozarth: Many villages have more than one idiot.// I'm the only idiot in my village! #lrnchat
9:11:51 pm simbeckhampson: @gwoodill Thank you! #lrnchat
9:11:53 pm kerina: RT @JaneBozarth: Many villages have more than one idiot. #lrnchat
9:11:53 pm elatedca: Environmental & Religiosity RT @TerrenceWing: Political views. RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there times when crowdsourcing isn't… #lrnchat
9:11:58 pm SoniaTejada: RT @JaneBozarth: Many villages have more than one idiot. #lrnchat
9:12:01 pm ajeanne: Good point. RT @JaneBozarth: Many villages have more than one idiot. #lrnchat
9:12:04 pm sillym0nkey: everytime I see Schnicker I say Schnicker doodle outloud. #lrnchat
9:12:16 pm TerrenceWing: RT @ajeanne Crowdsourcing also wont help if u dont know how to separate the wheat from the chaff–which CAN take expertise already. #lrnchat
9:12:17 pm garyd: RT @simbeckhampson "Second Life is just about the purest form of crowdsourcing. Agree?" #lrnchat
9:12:23 pm rainie1u: RT @JaneBozarth: Many villages have more than one idiot. #lrnchat
9:12:29 pm sillym0nkey: It takes more than one idiot to make a village #lrnchat
9:12:34 pm sleveo: RT @sillym0nkey: Crowdsourcing allows avenue for new experts to speak up #lrnchat Love that line
9:12:38 pm odguru: RT @chrstphr_adams: RT @JaneBozarth: Many villages have more than one idiot. << HO yeah. #lrnchat
9:12:47 pm chrstphr_adams: @trchandler Could crowdsourcing be moderated to manage loud voices? Could it work semi=anonymously? #lrnchat
9:12:52 pm jsuzcampos: RT @mrch0mp3rs: So can crowdsourcing even work without some kind of authority "in the room?" <> #lrnchat
9:13:00 pm Schnicker: @sillym0nkey haha, yes exactly, it’s a highschool nickname that stuck #lrnchat
9:13:01 pm kelly_smith01: Is it better to be (or work with idiots) or fools #lrnchat
9:13:03 pm hjarche: RT @JaneBozarth: Many villages have more than one idiot. | I resemble that remark! #lrnchat
9:13:04 pm mrch0mp3rs: RT @ajeanne: Crowdsourcing won’t help if yo don’t know how to separate the wheat from the chaff–which CAN take expertise already. #lrnchat
9:13:13 pm jadekaz: @mrch0mp3rs isn’t the question, will it even work if authoriti IS in the room #lrnchat
9:13:29 pm usablelearning: @chrstphr_adams If there’s a lot of “not my budget” attitude, it’s going to be an uphill battle in that culture anyway #lrnchat
9:13:32 pm TerrenceWing: RT @elatedca: Environmental ,Religiosity, Political views. RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there times when crowdsourcing isn’t… #lrnchat
9:13:34 pm simbeckhampson: There is something encouraging about user generated content, it enables people to leverage creativity in ways never possible before #lrnchat
9:13:35 pm ajeanne: Q2) Then, there are the “experts” who are NOT. Like emperors with no clothes. #lrnchat
9:13:43 pm billcush: Q2) Crowdsourcing doesn’t work in the stock market. Once there is a crowd, the price is going the other way. #lrnchat
9:13:45 pm trchandler: The idiot and 8yo responses raise a good point. How do you effectively define the crowd to be sourced? #lrnchat
9:13:46 pm jsuzcampos: RT @kelly_smith01: Is it better to be (or work with idiots) or fools <> #lrnchat
9:13:56 pm sleveo: RT @kelly_smith01: The true experts will always be part of the crowd in a successful crowdsourcing “event” #lrnchat Beautiful
9:14:00 pm mrch0mp3rs: @jadekaz Doesn’t have to be some formal authority. Sometimes it’s community-recognized leader/expert/jokester/etc. #lrnchat
9:14:02 pm JaneBozarth: RT @ajeanne: Crowdsourcing won’t help if yo don’t know how to separate wheat from chaff–which CAN take expertise already. #lrnchat
9:14:06 pm simbeckhampson: @garyd Gary…it’s always a pleasure to see you! #lrnchat
9:14:09 pm ajeanne: RT @billcush: Q2) Crowdsourcing doesnt work in the stock market. Once there is a crowd, the price is going the other way. #lrnchat
9:14:16 pm Callooh: Useful to allow more than one avenue to communicate though so that people who process info differently can contribute. #lrnchat
9:14:26 pm billcush: RT @TerrenceWing: Crowdsourcing is not useful if it isolates part of your workforce who isn’t being tapped 4 their exp or knowledge #lrnchat
9:14:29 pm mrch0mp3rs: @jsuzcampos Some kind of constraint that allows the group to repel against or gravitate to… #lrnchat
9:14:35 pm jadekaz: @chrstphr_adams You have a budget? #lrnchat
9:14:57 pm janet_frg: RT @TerrenceWing: RT @ajeanne Crowdsourcing also wont help if u dont know how to separate the wheat from the chaff–which CAN take expertise already. #lrnchat
9:15:09 pm usablelearning: @chrstphr_adams @trchandler Could it work semi=anonymously? #lrnchat < with caution – that direction leads to troll-ishness #lrnchat
9:15:14 pm jsuzcampos: @kelly_smith01 "SHIP OF FOOLS" (world party) #lrnchat ♫ http://blip.fm/~jyh93
9:15:15 pm janet_frg: RT @trchandler: The idiot and 8yo responses raise a good point. How do you effectively define the crowd to be sourced? #lrnchat
9:15:17 pm ErickTaft: Q2) Won't work if non-expected ideas are ignored (eg a physicist solving a chemistry problem) #lrnchat
9:15:36 pm simbeckhampson: For crowdsourcing to work you need to find the right crowd – point? #lrnchat
9:15:45 pm ajeanne: RT @ErickTaft: Q2) Wont work if non-expected ideas are ignored (eg a physicist solving a chemistry problem) #lrnchat
9:15:50 pm sleveo: RT @kasey428: Yammer was reluctantly approved by IT, but it hasn't caught on at work. People don't get it. #lrnchat It needs a champion
9:15:57 pm billcush: Sounds like target marketing expertise is needed. RT @trchandler: How do you effectively define the crowd to be sourced? #lrnchat
9:16:03 pm jadekaz: @mrch0mp3rs cook kids and experts, yes, authority with ruler, no #lrnchat
9:16:07 pm odguru: Big diff between wisdom of crowd and group think. Need Jestership… http://www.corporatejester.com/ #lrnchat
9:16:14 pm simbeckhampson: Crowdsourcing lends itself to solving clearly focused problems where there is little ambiguity or nuance. #lrnchat
9:16:15 pm tmiket: @mrch0mp3rs Is repel / gravitate = filter in/out ? #lrnchat
9:16:17 pm ajeanne: Yes. And discernment. RT @simbeckhampson: For crowdsourcing to work you need to find the right crowd – point? #lrnchat
9:16:22 pm minutebio: RT @sleveo: RT @kelly_smith01: tru experts wll always b prt of crowd in successful crowdsourcing event/ Sometimes it's wy 2 find em #lrnchat
9:16:23 pm trchandler: @kelly_smith01 that's why I like IMing at work. Among my peers I'm the fastest typist #lrnchat
9:16:32 pm jsuzcampos: RT @mrch0mp3rs Some kind of constraint that allows the group to repel against or gravitate to (i'm thinking an "honesty agent") #lrnchat
9:16:51 pm simbeckhampson: @sleveo I agree with the champion idea! BIG NOTICE #lrnchat
9:17:01 pm odguru: RT @mrch0mp3rs Some kind of constraint that allows the group to repel against or gravitate to (im thinking an "honesty agent") #lrnchat
9:17:05 pm marciamarcia: Ah, "trollishness." Don't see that one often enough. #lrnchat
9:17:08 pm trchandler: @sleveo we've done a lot of offline marketing to encourage Yammer usage #lrnchat
9:17:27 pm kasey428: It won't work if an hierarchy is evident. Must be a leveler or participation will die. #lrnchat
9:17:29 pm gwoodill: Choosing right crowd defeats process of getting a divergence of views. Even idiots have valuable ideas – lateral thoughts. #lrnchat
9:17:32 pm ajeanne: Q2) Some experts not accessible via venues such as this one. They're off being experts elsewhere. #lrnchat
9:17:37 pm sillym0nkey: RT simbeckhampson: @sleveo I agree with the champion idea! BIG NOTICE #lrnchat
9:17:41 pm mrch0mp3rs: acknowledge effort 2 help RT @ErickTaft: Q2) Won't work if unexpected ideas r ignored (eg a physicist solving a chemistry problem) #lrnchat
9:17:45 pm JaneBozarth: Q2} Sometimes crowd turns angry. (Think villagers/torches/pitchforks.) #lrnchat
9:17:54 pm chrstphr_adams: Point! RT @jadekaz: @chrstphr_adams You have a budget? #lrnchat
9:18:07 pm marciamarcia: @ajeanne And discernment. More seriously this time. *Don't* see that one enough either. #lrnchat
9:18:17 pm simbeckhampson: @gwoodill Depends on the topic. If too specialised not so. #lrnchat
9:18:17 pm JaneBozarth: Gary Larson: Ship of fools/Car of idiots http://www.curiosities.com/store/graphics/card709l-f.jpg #lrnchat
9:18:20 pm ErickTaft: @JaneBozarth And ogres… #lrnchat
9:18:35 pm jsuzcampos: RT @simbeckhampson CSing lends itself to problems w/ little ambiguity or nuance. #lrnchat
9:18:36 pm TerrenceWing: The mob is so fickle RT @JaneBozarth: Q2} Sometimes crowd turns angry. (Think villagers/torches/pitchforks.) #lrnchat
9:18:38 pm mrch0mp3rs: @tmiket To deal with cog-overload (or lack of response) we need lots of modes for aggregation and filtering. #lrnchat
9:18:45 pm lrnchat: Q3) How can a smart-mob be used effectively to help people learn? Examples? #lrnchat
9:18:52 pm jadekaz: To get people on board with Yammer, I think it would take making it non-work related. Then people will slowly put 2 and 2 together #lrnchat
9:18:57 pm simbeckhampson: @JaneBozarth oooh…no nasty crowds please, but good point. Upset the crowd and its game over. Football is a good example. #lrnchat
9:18:59 pm sillym0nkey: RTJaneBozarth: Q2} Sometimes crowd turns angry. (Think villagers/torches/pitchforks.) >But that is good for co to know the issues #lrnchat
9:19:02 pm mrch0mp3rs: @jsuzcampos The Whuffle register. #lrnchat
9:19:04 pm jadekaz: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can a smart-mob be used effectively to help people learn? Examples? #lrnchat
9:19:21 pm ErickTaft: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can a smart-mob be used effectively to help people learn? Examples? #lrnchat
9:19:29 pm tmiket: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can a smart-mob be used effectively to help people learn? Examples? #lrnchat
9:19:36 pm billcush: RT @gwoodill: Choosing right crowd defeats process of getting a divergence of views. Even idiots have valuable ideas – lateral thoughts. #lrnchat
9:19:40 pm ajeanne: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can a smart-mob be used effectively to help people learn? Examples? #lrnchat
9:19:50 pm jadekaz: Q3: Sharing is a “natural” form of reflection – that in itself is learning. #lrnchat
9:19:52 pm MLx: @JaneBozarth She’s a witch! Burn her! #lrnchat
9:19:54 pm marciamarcia: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can a smart-mob be used effectively to help people learn? Examples? #lrnchat
9:19:54 pm jsuzcampos: RT @mrch0mp3rs The Whuffle register. <> (envious) #lrnchat
9:19:57 pm sillym0nkey: Q3) How can a smart-mob be used effectively to help people learn? Give them credit for it! #lrnchat
9:20:03 pm SuzNet: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How can a smart-mob be used effectively to help people learn? smart-mob? #lrnchat
9:20:09 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) I wonder if the location of the crowd (in groups or one big group or many individuals pread out) have an major impact #lrnchat
9:20:09 pm gwoodill: Q3 – the smart mob can post materials. Then self-serve learning takes over as we look for answers. #lrnchat
9:20:13 pm trchandler: @chrstphr_adams yes. You do have greater “facilitator” tools to deal with loud or dominating voices #lrnchat
9:20:23 pm ajeanne: Q3) A smart-mob can improve access to & provide pointers to info someone needs right now (or later). #lrnchat
9:20:23 pm minutebio: RT @jadekaz: 2 get people on brd w Yammer, I thnk it would take making it non-work related.// Or extremely relevant and beneficial #lrnchat
9:20:48 pm jsuzcampos: Q3) How can a smart-mob be used effectively to help people learn? <> #lrnchat
9:20:57 pm tmiket: @jadekaz Could non-work Yams turn off ppl who don’t see value in the weather and lunch reports? #lrnchat
9:21:19 pm mrch0mp3rs: @jsuzcampos Nah… I have Evernote open and I’ve been living in this for a year now. Ask me for a ILT idea, I’m clueless. #lrnchat
9:21:19 pm ErickTaft: RT @jsuzcampos: <> #lrnchat
9:21:27 pm kelly_smith01: I always like the crowdsourcing in the Frankenstien movies. The pitchforks, torches, and the dude with a rope <- avoid these #lrnchat
9:21:28 pm marciamarcia: I've asked several questions on Twitter over the last few months, and a smart mob showed up. Amazing results. #lrnchat
9:21:29 pm usablelearning: @lrnchat I've seen wikis wither on the vine — need careful encouragement until they can survive on their own #lrnchat
9:21:30 pm hjarche: to be wise, crowds need: Diversity of opinion; Independence; Decentralization; Aggregation http://u.nu/3c7u4 #lrnchat
9:21:49 pm TerrenceWing: re: Q3: Is there such a thing as Crowd Mentorship? #lrnchat
9:21:59 pm trchandler: Smart mobs also can create positive peer pressure. "Didn't you know that?" #lrnchat
9:22:02 pm tmiket: RT @hjarche: to be wise, crowds need: Diversity of opinion; Independence; Decentralization; Aggregation http://u.nu/3c7u4 #lrnchat
9:22:03 pm tmiket: RT @hjarche: to be wise, crowds need: Diversity of opinion; Independence; Decentralization; Aggregation http://u.nu/3c7u4 #lrnchat
9:22:11 pm JaneBozarth: RT @hjarche: to be wise, crowds need: Diversity of opinion; Independence; Decentralization; Aggregation http://u.nu/3c7u4 #lrnchat
9:22:12 pm jsuzcampos: Q3) A mob-mentality is very convincing. "God favors large brigades" (archive quote from 2 weeks ago) #lrnchat
9:22:23 pm ajeanne: @hjarche To be wise, crowds need wise contributors. #lrnchat
9:22:26 pm ErickTaft: RT @hjarche: to be wise, crowds need: Diversity of opinion; Independence; Decentralization; Aggregation http://u.nu/3c7u4 #lrnchat
9:22:30 pm odguru: Have seen a user experience association do crowd mentoring – questions come up and you switch your tag. Lurk in or have convos #lrnchat
9:22:30 pm jadekaz: RT @jsuzcampos: Q3) can a smartmob be used effectively to help ppl learn? RT @gwoodill: @usablelearning Wikis need a critical mass of participants or will usually die. #lrnchat
9:24:00 pm ajeanne: Q3) I’m not sure if folks have shared meaning for the term “smart-mob.” #lrnchat
9:24:02 pm trchandler: wiki article on smart mobs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_mob #lrnchat
9:24:07 pm TerrenceWing: @marciamarcia When there’s a problem it seems that the smart mob are the one’s that usually show up. #lrnchat
9:24:08 pm JaneBozarth: @simbeckhampson Yes balloon project good example #lrnchat
9:24:09 pm Spydeesense: @jsuzcampos I see a Napolean via @moehlert quote #lrnchat
9:24:11 pm mrch0mp3rs: Anybody thinking about smart-mobs the way Apple deals with smart folders? That’s what the #lrnchat list is to me. Twitter lists, etc.
9:24:21 pm simbeckhampson: @hjarche To be wise, crowds need wise contributors. #lrnchat Sometimes simplicity is everything🙂
9:24:30 pm SuzNet: Q3 –are smart-mobs the early adopters who disperse knowledge to the masses? #lrnchat
9:24:35 pm marciamarcia: Have tried asking these questions at various times. Best responses have consistently been late night my time (ET). #lrnchat
9:24:38 pm ErickTaft: RT @TerrenceWing: @marciamarcia When theres a problem it seems that the smart mob are the ones that usually show up. #lrnchat
9:24:44 pm jsuzcampos: @simbeckhampson Ah! I remember reading about this! #lrnchat
9:25:05 pm trchandler: @mrch0mp3rs tell us more about smart mobs as smart folders #lrnchat
9:25:06 pm wlonline: Sorry #lrnchat; have to tend to work-related stuff at the moment; on skype with colleague to sort out some learning stuff
9:25:06 pm ErickTaft: @SuzNet I was thinking along the same lines. #lrnchat
9:25:16 pm mrch0mp3rs: Twitter lists kinda makes it easy. Find a good list of Flash experts and if you have a connection, it’s easy to get good pointers. #lrnchat
9:25:23 pm ajeanne: @trchandler Thx for “smart mob” link. #lrnchat
9:25:24 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) A “smart crowd” has expert performers (they do not perform during sourcing) who may become a source for advice or leadership #lrnchat
9:25:26 pm jsuzcampos: RT @Spydeesense I see a Napolean via @moehlert quote <> #lrnchat
9:25:30 pm usablelearning: @gwoodill @tmiket Agreed, along with dispersed ownership and habit of contributing #lrnchat
9:25:36 pm DavidSacks: RT @trchandler: Yammer was blessed by our IT department as secure as email. #lrnchat
9:25:50 pm mrch0mp3rs: Not to go new buzzword heavy, but Twitter lists are a primitive form of… “registries” #lrnchat (drink)
9:25:52 pm ErickTaft: @marciamarcia Less “noise” late night ET – fewer tweets abt eating chili dogs. #lrnchat
9:26:08 pm hjarche: @simbeckhampson well said! #lrnchat
9:26:29 pm minutebio: RT @DavidSacks: RT @trchandler: Yammer was blessed by our IT department as secure as email. // Small Org? #lrnchat
9:26:39 pm JaneBozarth: Q3) Smart mob good for challenging assumptions, revealing bias #lrnchat
9:26:51 pm mrch0mp3rs: @trchandler On a mac, you can create a folder that dynamically pulls content together based on search queries. #lrnchat
9:26:53 pm marciamarcia: Sometimes, it’s those who don’t know who offer the smartest insights. They ask provocative counter-questions. #lrnchat
9:27:06 pm kasey428: RT @JaneBozarth: Q3) Smart mob good for challenging assumptions, revealing bias #lrnchat
9:27:07 pm simbeckhampson: Secrecy: requires that only few people know the secret, thus crowdsourcing something that is to be a secret is probably a bad idea #lrnchat
9:27:08 pm billcush: Does require commitment. RT @usablelearning: @lrnchat wikis need careful encouragement until they can survive on their own #lrnchat
9:27:15 pm mrch0mp3rs: @trchandler Smart folders require metadata, but you are already kinda tagging ppl on Twitter using lists the same way. #lrnchat
9:27:23 pm tmiket: RT @marciamarcia: Sometimes, it’s those who don’t know who offer the smartest insights. They ask provocative counter-questions. #lrnchat
9:27:24 pm trchandler: @minutebio fairly small, but nationwide #lrnchat
9:27:26 pm TerrenceWing: Is it better to have a small smart mob or a big smart mob? #lrnchat
9:27:35 pm kelly_smith01: RT @marciamarcia: Sometimes, its those who dont know who offer the smartest insights. They ask provocative counter-questions. #lrnchat
9:27:38 pm ajeanne: RT@kelly_smith01: Q3)A “smart crowd” has expert performers (they do not perform during sourcing)..a source for advice or leadership #lrnchat
9:27:52 pm kasey428: RT @marciamarcia: Sometimes, its those who dont know who offer the smartest insights. They ask provocative counter-questions. #lrnchat
9:27:59 pm ErickTaft: RT @marciamarcia: Sometimes, its those who dont know who offer the smartest insights. They ask provocative counter-questions. #lrnchat
9:28:00 pm simbeckhampson: (unless you are executing a cunning hide in plain sight sort of plan) (giggles) #lrnchat
9:28:00 pm mrch0mp3rs: Agree. Great way to learn. RT @JaneBozarth: Q3) Smart mob good for challenging assumptions, revealing bias #lrnchat
9:28:06 pm JaneBozarth: RT @marciamarcia: Sometimes, it’s those who don’t know who offer the smartest insights. They ask provocative counter-questions. #lrnchat
9:28:09 pm trchandler: @mrch0mp3rs makes sense. Thanks. #lrnchat
9:28:12 pm SuzNet: @ErickTaft — like the tipping point – mavens and connectors #lrnchat
9:28:13 pm simbeckhampson: @hjarche😉 #lrnchat
9:28:14 pm sleveo: RT @enzofsilva: Not sure we can call any type of free info exchange “crowdsourcing.” Not without a common “product” being built. #lrnchat
9:28:23 pm jsuzcampos: The term “mob” implies passionate people motivated around a cause. The term “crowd” implies people in the same place, happenstance. #lrnchat
9:29:05 pm TerrenceWing: RT @kasey428 @marciamarcia: Sometimes its those who dont know who offer the smartest insights. They ask provocative counter-quest. #lrnchat
9:29:06 pm hjarche: or: crowds don’t need wise contributors, but diverse & independent ones; it’s like evolution: simple mechanisms create complexity #lrnchat
9:29:12 pm sleveo: RT @odguru: RT @sillym0nkey: Q2) Crowdsourcing, not helpful when people dont want to play – Yes – when you’ve been volun-told. #lrnchat Cute
9:29:18 pm minutebio: @trchandler Thanks. Tough nut to crack at my lg org, but maybe better luck at new job with small org.. wrk close w IT Thx #lrnchat
9:29:27 pm SuzNet: @jsuzcampos – just hope they’re motivated for good causes #lrnchat
9:29:31 pm marciamarcia: RT @jsuzcampos “mob” implies passionate people motivated around a cause. “Crowd” implies people in the same place, happenstance. #lrnchat
9:29:46 pm ErickTaft: @SuzNet Yeah. Many of the people I’ve connected with through SoMe are both. #lrnchat
9:29:48 pm jadekaz: @jsuzcampos I get it. It’s like hungry people at McDonald’s around noon. Motivated and many! #lrnchat
9:29:57 pm Schnicker: I’ve lost the thread, this topic has caused great live debate in our office :o) #crowdarguing #lrnchat
9:30:07 pm jadekaz: RT @jsuzcampos “mob” implies passionate people motivated around a cause. “Crowd” implies people in the same place, happenstance. #lrnchat
9:30:11 pm simbeckhampson: To undertake the kind of knowledge work required to solve complex problems contributors need uninterrupted time in the zone. #lrnchat
9:30:14 pm rdeis: RT @JaneBozarth @marciamarcia Sometimes, its those who dont know who offer the smartest insights. They ask provocative counter-?s. #lrnchat
9:30:21 pm chrstphr_adams: Smart mobs from concept of “flash mobs” instantly reorganizes people to focus on a problem. Breaks down/ignores corp. structure. #lrnchat
9:30:41 pm ErickTaft: RT @jadekaz: @jsuzcampos With many opinions as to what is best on the menu board. #lrnchat
9:30:44 pm TerrenceWing: Mobsourcing ? RT @marciamarcia @jsuzcampos mob implies passionate people . Crowd implies people in the same place, happenstance. #lrnchat
9:30:46 pm usablelearning: @hjarche Probably also critical mass for that model space 4 reflectives, NRG 4 actives #lrnchat
9:33:59 pm jsuzcampos: Crowds (or mobs) must be tolerant of ideas, perspectives, innovation, and possibility to allow the “break through” to appear … #lrnchat
9:34:11 pm TerrenceWing: @michelle300 You have been awesome with your tweets and blog posts. I feel like I am there. Thanks #TK10 #lrnchat
9:34:21 pm chrstphr_adams: @ajeanne By all means, let’s overthrow some things! #lrnchat
9:34:35 pm kasey428: Mobsourcing conjures of visions of virtual anarchy. #lrnchat
9:34:37 pm rdeis: RT @marciamarcia @jsuzcampos “mob” implies passionate ppl motivated around a cause. “Crowd” implies ppl in same place happenstance. #lrnchat
9:34:39 pm jsuzcampos: RT @TerrenceWing You are running out of options. <> #lrnchat
9:34:43 pm wlonline: @jsuzcampos Yep we don’t want group think! #lrnchat
9:34:45 pm billcush: RT @TerrenceWing: Mobsourcing? RT @marciamarcia @jsuzcampos mob implies passionate people Crowd implies people in the same place #lrnchat
9:34:48 pm TerrenceWing: RT @Schnicker: Yup @ajeanne: “Mob” implies a group of over-emotional & possibly out-of-control people about to overthrow something. #lrnchat
9:34:49 pm jmarrapodi: RT@marciamarcia: Sometimes, it’s those who don’t know who offer the smartest insights. They ask provocative counter-questions. #lrnchat
9:34:49 pm sleveo: @jkmind #lrnchat are wiki’s crowd sourcing? Absolutely not. A wiki may be used for crowd sourcing. But it is only a technology.
9:34:58 pm ajeanne: I ? this. RT @marciamarcia Sometimes, its those who dont know who offer the smartest insights. They ask provocative counter ?s. #lrnchat
9:35:11 pm sillym0nkey: mobs and crowds scare me – on line not as scawy! #lrnchat
9:35:23 pm TerrenceWing: Scare them into learning RT @kasey428: Mobsourcing conjures of visions of virtual anarchy. #lrnchat
9:35:24 pm simbeckhampson: @odguru Nice. #lrnchat
9:35:36 pm ErickTaft: @kasey428 Something most organizations (& all gov’ts) fear. #lrnchat
9:35:59 pm jadekaz: I have a pitchfork, you have an LMS? RT @chrstphr_adams @ajeanne By all means, lets overthrow some things! #lrnchat
9:36:01 pm gwoodill: @kasey428 Perhaps you would prefer Swarm or Hive. Have also been used. Individual ants aren’t smart, as a collective they are… #lrnchat
9:36:09 pm trchandler: RT @TerrenceWing: Scare them into learning RT @kasey428: Mobsourcing conjures of visions of virtual anarchy. #lrnchat
9:36:18 pm odguru: RT @simbeckhampson: @odguru Nice. << back at cha. #lrnchat
9:36:29 pm TerrenceWing: @simbeckhampson Sorry you missed the Second Life meet up last night (morning for you) #lrnchat
9:36:35 pm Spydeesense: @sillym0nkey Mobs & crowds in a client porposal/preso may scare THEM all the better maybe #lrnchat
9:36:39 pm ajeanne: @chrstphr_adams Yes! Let's overthrow ignorance, for one.🙂 #lrnchat
9:36:41 pm ErickTaft: @sleveo Crowdsourced t-shirts: @Threadless #lrnchat
9:36:43 pm sleveo: RT @JaneBozarth: Many villages have more than one idiot. #lrnchat You are seriously funny tonight.
9:36:48 pm jsuzcampos: RT @TerrenceWing: Scare them into learning <> #lrnchat
9:36:52 pm Schnicker: @jadekaz I have the LMS – lets go! #lrnchat
9:36:54 pm JaneBozarth: RT @jadekaz: I have a pitchfork, you have an LMS? RT @chrstphr_adams @ajeanne By all means, lets overthrow some things! #lrnchat
9:36:55 pm chrstphr_adams: With a mob or a crowd, who plays the role of breaking down the work, making assignments, and reassembling the final product? #lrnchat
9:37:17 pm LauraMattis: Agree! @TerrenceWing: RT @kasey428 @marciamarcia: Sometimes those who dont know offer smart insight. Ask provocative counter-quest #lrnchat
9:37:32 pm lrnchat: Q4) Have you used a #lrnchat type approach to learning in your org? Tell us more.
9:37:37 pm ErickTaft: RT @gwoodill: Individual ants arent smart, as a collective they are… RT @chrstphr_adams @jadekaz Nice. The LMS is always a good place to start in with the pitchforks. #lrnchat
9:41:20 pm TerrenceWing: Expand beyond borders & inhibitions RT @jadekaz: Q4 What r advantages of internal #lrnchat? Compared with a roundtable discussion? #lrnchat
9:41:24 pm trchandler: @jadekaz everybody gets a chance to have a voice and ALL voices get recorded #lrnchat
9:41:29 pm simbeckhampson: Q4.It’s a brilliant idea for quick bursts. Later it can be added to mind mapping and resent out.Time in between important (reflect) #lrnchat
9:41:34 pm odguru: Haven’t much success getting lrners on twitter (starting); have had some CoPs that went on for several months and were fruitful #lrnchat
9:41:35 pm kellygarber: RT @lrnchat: Q4) Have you used a #lrnchat type approach to learning in your org? Tell us more.
9:41:51 pm gwoodill: Slime mold spores and oil drops can solve maze puzzles. Smart blobs. It’s the foundation we emerge from. (New Scientist). #lrnchat
9:41:53 pm bschlenker: Q4) Have you used a #lrnchat type approach to learning in your org? Tell us more #lrnchat /via @sillym0nkey
9:41:55 pm sillym0nkey: jsuzcampos: Q4) built resource center integrates youtube channel netvibes diigo twitter & dedicated hashtag (does that count?) YES #lrnchat
9:41:58 pm odguru: RT @Spydeesense: competition 2 rename org I suggested “Simbrero” co. paid $50K to consulting co 4 name it didnt take<<what a burn! #lrnchat
9:42:07 pm TerrenceWing: @MLx Yes DRILL SARGEANT!!!! #lrnchat
9:42:11 pm sleveo: RT @odguru: Big diff between wisdom of crowd and group think. Need Jestership… http://www.corporatejester.com/ #lrnchat Sweet
9:42:14 pm LauraMattis: Haven't yet, but could see it being great exercise RT @lrnchat: Q4) Have you used a #lrnchat type approach to learning in your org? #lrnchat
9:42:16 pm marciamarcia: RT @trchandler everybody gets a chance to have a voice and ALL voices get recorded. #lrnchat
9:42:29 pm wlonline: Q4 Tried using yammer with fellow students for group work but not as effective as twitter, imo #lrnchat
9:42:34 pm billcush: Hard to believe in "wisdom" of crowds-one of my fav books is: "Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds." #lrnchat
9:42:35 pm jsuzcampos: @marciamarcia i wish it were public but built for a #Comm_College system. Happy to show it to you sometime, though! #lrnchat
9:42:39 pm hjarche: @odguru Use a very gentle hand in controlling the learners & some will become highly participative http://u.nu/6g7u4 #lrnchat
9:42:40 pm simbeckhampson: @LauraMattis Hi Laura… #lrnchat
9:42:53 pm ajeanne: Q4) Have a few Google groups that occasionally mimic a chat room. #lrnchat
9:42:55 pm marciamarcia: Have you used a #lrnchat type approach to learning in your org? Tell us more.
9:43:27 pm jadekaz: RT @marciamarcia: RT @trchandler everybody gets a chance to have a voice and ALL voices get recorded. #lrnchat
9:43:29 pm gwoodill: All learning is social, & collective knowledge emerges from humble actions of all. It's all a deterministic computation. Relax! #lrnchat
9:43:30 pm chrstphr_adams: Great example. RT @gwoodill: Individual ants arent smart, <– work together to solve problems w/o being told to do so. #lrnchat
9:43:37 pm mrch0mp3rs: Q4: Trying to get it to stick, but it requires a bit of comfort/maturity with microblogging in general to give it a fighting chance #lrnchat
9:44:20 pm nickfloro: Q4 – Used at gatherings & events. Using #lrnchat as a great example and telling everyone about it – if they want to hear about it or not : )
9:44:28 pm ErickTaft: Q4) Attempted with local ASTD Chapter – need to help ppl take a toe dip first before they jump in. #lrnchat
9:44:36 pm ginafred: RT @gwoodill: All learning is social, & collective knowledge emerges from humble actions of all. It's all a deterministic computation. Relax! #lrnchat
9:44:39 pm odguru: RT @hjarche: Use very gentle hand in controlling learners & some will become highly participative http://u.nu/6g7u4 <great guidance #lrnchat
9:45:04 pm tedlouie: RT @gwoodill: Slime mold spores and oil drops can solve maze puzzles. Smart blobs. It's the foundation we emerge from. (New Scientist). #lrnchat
9:45:16 pm chrstphr_adams: Q4) Use IM and discussions within org to solve problems – but SO much more powerful releasing it to the whole web. #lrnchat
9:45:25 pm SuzNet: Q4 – I've seen it used to get learning design ideas, advice for solving computer issues, share research #lrnchat
9:45:27 pm TerrenceWing: It seems 2 work best when there is a reason or obstacle preventing u from meeting live. Otherwise meet live. #lrnchat
9:45:31 pm sleveo: @trchandler: we've done a lot of offline marketing to encourage Yammer usage #lrnchat Takes more than mrkting. Takes training & make safe
9:45:32 pm kellygarber: Q4 google docs with several folks working on one file simultaneously #lrnchat
9:45:35 pm wlonline: Q4 Just saying to my collague that twitter style #lrnchat relies on getting used to reading online fast and typing fast
9:45:37 pm jadekaz: RT @hjarche: Use very gentle hand in controlling learners & some will become highly participative http://u.nu/6g7u4 #lrnchat
9:45:43 pm simbeckhampson: Beyond the wisdom of crowds is the work of crowds #lrnchat
9:45:56 pm TerrenceWing: Same problem here RT @ErickTaft: Q4) Attempted with local ASTD Chapter – need to help ppl take a toe dip first before they jump in. #lrnchat
9:46:00 pm justuschris: @TerrenceWing Totally agree. #lrnchat
9:46:10 pm jadekaz: RT @chrstphr_adams: Q4) Use IM and discussions within org to solve problems but SO much more powerful releasing it to the whole web #lrnchat
9:46:27 pm marciamarcia: Beyond the wisdom of crowds is the work of crowds -@simbeckhampson #lrnchat
9:46:29 pm simbeckhampson: No comments about my Google Wave comment. It could be the end of LMS as we know it? Or is that going to far? #lrnchat
9:46:32 pm trchandler: @chrstphr_adams IM is good way to have these chats internally. What's the largest IM session you've had? #lrnchat
9:46:32 pm odguru: Tho' lrng outcomes hard to pin have noticed that the strength of the network formed is sometimes very powerful & longstanding. #lrnchat
9:46:32 pm ajeanne: Q4) I'm a member of a group that communicates via email lists. Is International & people weigh in with experience & help 24 x 7. #lrnchat
9:46:46 pm kelly_smith01: Q4) I have had a hard time getting local learning folks to join #lrnchat. Have not tried in an enterprise yet. #lrnchat
9:46:59 pm chrstphr_adams: I've noticed that IT workers use Internet to crowdsource solutions, while preventing others in org from doing the same. #lrnchat
9:47:00 pm ErickTaft: @tedlouie @gwoodill Like the slime mold Tokyo subway map. http://bit.ly/cZmDpP #lrnchat
9:47:09 pm trchandler: RT @wlonline: Q4 Just saying to my collague that twitter style #lrnchat relies on getting used to reading online and typing fast #lrnchat
9:47:27 pm gwoodill: Is the collective response to Haiti an example of crowdsourcing? Or competition among charitable tribes fighting for dominance? #lrnchat
9:47:28 pm billcush: @ErickTaft Getting people to dip the toe is a challenge. Still there are many objectors of the medium. #lrnchat
9:47:40 pm SuzNet: @wlonline twitter style – you bring up a good point on skills needed to keep up! #lrnchat
9:47:40 pm ErickTaft: RT @kelly_smith01: Q4) I have had a hard time getting local learning folks to join #lrnchat. <– Same here. #lrnchat
9:47:41 pm simbeckhampson: @kelly_smith01 A big stick normally does the trick…or a bag of sweeties! #lrnchat
9:47:51 pm usablelearning: @simbeckhampson wouldn't that be nice! #lrnchat
9:47:53 pm mrch0mp3rs: On the topic of smart folders on a mac, just whipped up a how-to: http://beard.it/h #lrnchat
9:47:58 pm ajeanne: Interesting! RT @chrstphr_adams: … IT workers use Internet to CS solutions, while preventing others in org from doing the same. #lrnchat
9:48:09 pm odguru: @trchandler yes, but I am using Say-Now as we "speak" #lrnchat
9:48:10 pm jsuzcampos: Q4) To increase use of crowdsourcing tools, I integrated them all into the LMS (don't shoot me, just meeting then where they are) #lrnchat
9:48:28 pm jsuzcampos: RT @mrch0mp3rs: On the topic of smart folders on a mac, just whipped up a how-to: http://beard.it/h <<Awesome, thanks! #lrnchat
9:48:36 pm JaneBozarth: @wlonline #lrnchat is the first thing I've ever found that moves at the speed of Jane.
9:48:40 pm kwooleyy: RT @marciamarcia: Beyond the wisdom of crowds is the work of crowds -@simbeckhampson #lrnchat
9:48:40 pm ErickTaft: @billcush It is, but once they have done it the response usually is "That was easy." #lrnchat
9:48:42 pm simbeckhampson: @usablelearning Sorry, knew that was naughty🙂 #lrnchat
9:48:43 pm odguru: @ErickTaft @kelly_smith01Did you guys tell them abu the drinking game?? ROI ROI ROI #lrnchat
9:48:48 pm jadekaz: RT @chrstphr_adams: … IT workers use Internet to CS solutions, while preventing others in org from doing the same. #lrnchat
9:49:12 pm wlonline: @SuzNet Plus thinking on the quick to diff perspectives/responses #lrnchat
9:49:21 pm justuschris: @chrstphr_adams Needs to be a management decision from the top down… #lrnchat
9:49:22 pm SuzNet: @ajeanne love those international 24 hour groups – great to get answers from around the world #lrnchat
9:49:29 pm JaneBozarth: @jsuzcampos Well, at least you're using LMS for something that can't be done with Surveymonkey. #lrnchat
9:49:58 pm ErickTaft: @odguru @kelly_smith01 No, I did not. The game must the be secret glue. #lrnchat
9:50:09 pm sillym0nkey: what is a bag of sweeties? #lrnchat
9:50:13 pm trchandler: @odguru What do you like about Say-Now? #lrnchat
9:50:34 pm jsuzcampos: @JaneBozarth I've always thought, "if any monkey can do this, i must move on to something else." #lrnchat
9:50:35 pm justuschris: Q4) IRC has been around for 20 years doing something similar for tech geeks… Very similar to #lrnchat… #lrnchat
9:50:39 pm marciamarcia: My dad swore by lessons in "Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds" http://j.mp/deluusion #lrnchat
9:50:44 pm wlonline: @JaneBozarth I am liking the speed too. Prev i used to think that sync chats won't work well. Now I think difftly #lrnchat
9:50:50 pm simbeckhampson: Ecosystem development contains crowdsourcing using micro & macro blogging and collaboration tools. http://bit.ly/7ipbZJ #lrnchat
9:51:01 pm billcush: RT @ajeanne: Interesting! RT @chrstphr_adams: … IT workers use Net to CS solutions then prevent others from doing the same. #lrnchat
9:51:04 pm jadekaz: I talked up #lrnchat at work…if I hadn't fully cemented my dorkiness before, it is now. #lrnchat
9:51:27 pm simbeckhampson: Last post was a little plug for my new Ning site. All welcome. #lrnchat
9:51:29 pm SuzNet: @wlonline and then reconnecting to the next stream of tweets #lrnchat
9:51:47 pm mrch0mp3rs: RT @marciamarcia: My dad swore by lessons in "Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds" http://j.mp/deluusion #lrnchat
9:51:54 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links welcome. What can we help you with? #lrnchat
9:51:55 pm ajeanne: @jadekaz Let us celebrate our inner dorkiness.🙂 #lrnchat
9:52:07 pm usablelearning: @simbeckhampson no apologies! I'm convinced that LMSs are a mass delusion of the training industy #oopsdidisaythatoutloud #lrnchat
9:52:09 pm odguru: @trchandler have a fairly severe case of RSI at the moment, plus am a bit ADD.cuts down on my time, typing & clicking by about 60% #lrnchat
9:52:10 pm marciamarcia: @wlonline Get in, get out, get answers, get questions, move on, move up, think differently, think wider. #lrnchat
9:52:22 pm JaneBozarth: @jadekaz Wave your flag proudly, comrade. #lrnchat
9:52:45 pm billcush: RT @marciamarcia: My dad swore by lessons in "Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds" http://j.mp/deluusion #lrnchat
9:52:53 pm wlonline: @SuzNet Yes🙂 #lrnchat
9:52:56 pm TerrenceWing: Is this format more added value rather than primary process #lrnchat
9:52:57 pm JaneBozarth: @marciamarcia Many lessons in "tulip madness" #lrnchat
9:52:58 pm cammybean: Hi #lrnchat! I'm flying home from astd -just landed Chicago. One more leg to go. I'm with a crowd but not learning from them so much.
9:53:07 pm simbeckhampson: @usablelearning funny! top sense of humour! #lrnchat
9:53:10 pm hjarche: HJ: Work is learning, learning work – that is all Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know #lrnchat
9:53:17 pm wlonline: RT @marciamarcia: @wlonline Get in, get out, get answers, get questions, move on, move up, think differently, think wider. #lrnchat
9:53:17 pm ajeanne: RT @usablelearning: @simbeckhampson no apologies! Im convinced that LMSs are a mass delusion of the training industry #lrnchat
9:53:17 pm jadekaz: RT @ajeanne: @jadekaz Let us celebrate our inner dorkiness.🙂 #lrnchat
9:53:23 pm simbeckhampson: Is it bedtime now! Yipheee #lrnchat
9:53:26 pm trchandler: @jadekaz we need special dork badges to identify ourselves to each other, so we know it's safe to say such things. #lrnchat
9:53:28 pm nickfloro: @jsuzcampos Q4) integrate w/LMS – grt idea, a challenge is when they are on different social ntwrks & tools – getting participation #lrnchat
9:53:34 pm kelly_smith01: @jadekaz I try to talk up #lrnchat @ my Starbucks – that's being a dork. #lrnchat
9:53:36 pm mrch0mp3rs: #lrnchat followed by several in my org, but only @StephanieDaul and @rbieber seem to play. The only way you can get Twitter is to do it.
9:53:46 pm jadekaz: RT @marciamarcia: @wlonline Get in, get out, get answers, get questions, move on, move up, think differently, think wider. #lrnchat
9:53:56 pm odguru: @trchandler haven't done a lot of comparisons – was reco'd this & went w it. Have 2 spell short forms, but saves me aching limbs. #lrnchat
9:54:34 pm ajeanne: So true! RT @mrch0mp3rs: … The only way you can get Twitter is to do it. #lrnchat
9:54:36 pm jsuzcampos: @nickfloro hope to be able to report on participation rates when it goes live next month … stay tuned! #lrnchat
9:54:37 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman. e-Learning Designer (& Developer) in Baltimore, MD #lrnchat
9:54:39 pm gwoodill: Gary Woodill. I post to daily blog – http://www.brandon-hall.com/workplacelearningtoday. On a lake in Canada. -18 degrees C. #lrnchat
9:54:45 pm SuzNet: @jadekaz Dorkiness can be fun #lrnchat
9:54:46 pm TerrenceWing: RT @mrch0mp3rs The only way you can get Twitter is to do it. #TK10 #ASTD #ASTDLA #lrnchat
9:54:46 pm JaneBozarth: RT @usablelearning I'm convinced that LMSs are a mass delusion of the training industy #oopsdidisaythatoutloud #lrnchat
9:54:46 pm usablelearning: RT @JaneBozarth @jadekaz Wave your [dork] flag proudly, comrade. #lrnchat
9:54:49 pm ralphmercer: RT @hjarche: HJ: Work is learning, learning work – that is all Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know #lrnchat
9:54:51 pm snowbie: no hate. you go dorks! RT @jadekaz RT @ajeanne: @jadekaz Let us celebrate our inner dorkiness.🙂 #lrnchat
9:55:10 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith Learning consultant sometimes freelance – currently solo-sourcing #lrnchat
9:55:11 pm ErickTaft: RT @mrch0mp3rs: The only way you can get Twitter is to do it. <– True! #lrnchat
9:55:15 pm jadekaz: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @usablelearning Im convinced that LMSs are a mass delusion of the training industy #oopsdidisaythatoutloud #lrnchat
9:55:15 pm billcush: I'll pay triple for those tulips. My neighbor paid double. RT @JaneBozarth: @marciamarcia Many lessons in "tulip madness" #lrnchat
9:55:16 pm minutebio: Oh, been a gr8 learning experience, thx everyone! #lrnchat
9:55:17 pm odguru: RT @trchandler: @jadekaz we need special dork badges << or a secret word like "Thursday" #lrnchat
9:55:18 pm wlonline: RT @TerrenceWing: RT @mrch0mp3rs The only way you can get Twitter is to do it. #TK10 #ASTD #ASTDLA #lrnchat
9:55:22 pm ajeanne: RT @marciamarcia: @wlonline Get in, get out, get answers, get questions, move on, move up, think differently, think wider. #lrnchat
9:55:44 pm simbeckhampson: Thanks for having me🙂 Paul Simbeck-Hampson, Bavaria, Germany (4am), Learnscape Architect & Gardener. http://bit.ly/7ipbZJ #lrnchat
9:55:59 pm odguru: RT @usablelearning I’m convinced that LMSs are a mass delusion of the training industy << 2 much activity not productivity #lrnchat
9:56:03 pm sillym0nkey: SillyMonkey here live from Atlanta! official dork but no need to announce that to you Shh! Thursday #lrnchat
9:56:11 pm mrch0mp3rs: Aaron Silvers, http://beard.it/i – You guys help me all the time. What can I be helping YOU with? #lrnchat
9:56:24 pm JaneBozarth: Jane, RDU, doctor of learnin' stuff, love #lrnchat http://bozarthzone.blogspot.com
9:56:26 pm wlonline: Thanks everyone. Sorry had to miss huge chunk of session – will catch up with transcript #lrnchat, WL Wong, Sydney
9:56:28 pm chrstphr_adams: Was openly mocked just now! Here's to the dorks. RT @ajeanne: @jadekaz Let us celebrate our inner dorkiness.🙂 #lrnchat
9:56:38 pm justuschris: This has been cool – will definitely bring this up in master's class next week: http://www.carleton.ca/tim/ #lrnchat
9:56:39 pm odguru: RT @hjarche: HJ: Work is learning, learning work – that is all Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know #lrnchat
9:56:50 pm LauraMattis: So agree! Patience too! RT @TerrenceWing: RT @mrch0mp3rs The only way you can get Twitter is to do it. #TK10 #ASTD #ASTDLA #lrnchat
9:56:52 pm trishuhl: RT @TerrenceWing @mrch0mp3rs The only way you can get Twitter is to do it. #TK10 #ASTD #ASTDLA // In context #lrnchat
9:56:54 pm chrstphr_adams: RT @justuschris: @chrstphr_adams Needs to be a management decision from the top down… #lrnchat
9:57:04 pm simbeckhampson: @LauraMattis It's not easy, but you know what…you guys are worth it! Speed to proficiency! Clients want the latest info yesterday #lrnchat
9:57:22 pm jadekaz: Whew! Made it with 8% battery life to spare. See ya all next week! #lrnchat
9:57:28 pm jsuzcampos: Jeannette Campos, cold-kicking it live in southern New Hampshire #lrnchat
9:57:32 pm AnitasNewMex: RT @LauraMattis: So agree! Patience too! RT @TerrenceWing: RT @mrch0mp3rs The only way you can get Twitter is to do it. #TK10 #ASTD #ASTDLA #lrnchat
9:57:34 pm justuschris: @sillym0nkey I have a strong interest in learning and games as well… will have to keep in touch… #lrnchat
9:57:40 pm JaneBozarth: @cammybean Oh look who's here. We were celebrating geekiness. You're just in time. #lrnchat
9:57:58 pm simbeckhampson: @chrstphr_adams Agree again Management top down. So dont bother starting anything until mr big is on fire!!! Need help call me! #lrnchat
9:58:10 pm sillym0nkey: justuschris: @sillym0nkey I have a strong interest in learning and games as well… will have to keep in touch…YES – Let's! #lrnchat
9:58:17 pm tgrevatt: I'd love some help! Looking for comments on our game as wiki application to the DML competition, http://bit.ly/9kZPii #lrnchat
9:58:19 pm odguru: Christy, great white north. Currently lost in thoughts about learning & the computational internet…http://odscore.wordpress.com/ #lrnchat
9:58:24 pm trishuhl: Trish Uhl, late late late to #lrnchat in snowy Chicago – hoping to clear my Thursday evening for next week! #lrnchat
9:58:25 pm TerrenceWing: Terrence Wing, Los Angeles, Trying to make strong leaders or at least competent managers through trning & lrning #lrnchat
9:58:28 pm ginafred: @chrstphr_adams – all ye dorks, nerds, geeks, and misunderstood geniuses! #lrnchat
9:58:35 pm ValerieRoberts: Valerie Roberts, Instructional Designer, Phoenix, AZ. Thx for all the info! #lrnchat
9:58:39 pm simbeckhampson: @JaneBozarth @cammybean Lol. Your late, go to the back of the class. #lrnchat
9:58:39 pm marciamarcia: Thank you all for participating tonight in #lrnchat. Special thanks to participants at #TK10. So much to learn together.
9:58:57 pm JaneBozarth: @jadekaz @usablelearning Not to say that is the ONLY mass delusion of the training industry. #lrnchat
9:59:05 pm kelly_smith01: What's the diff between a geek and a dork? #lrnchat
9:59:10 pm hjarche: RT @tgrevatt: Id love some help! Looking for comments on our game as wiki application to the DML competition, http://bit.ly/9kZPii #lrnchat
9:59:19 pm gwoodill: @odguru See Rudy Rucker on Universal Computationalism – alternative to God. #lrnchat
9:59:31 pm kwooleyy: RT @hjarche: RT @JaneBozarth: Many villages have more than one idiot. | I resemble that remark! #lrnchat
9:59:37 pm jennainVA: RT @LauraMattis: So agree! Patience too! RT @TerrenceWing: RT @mrch0mp3rs The only way you can get Twitter is to do it. #TK10 #ASTD #ASTDLA #lrnchat
9:59:41 pm michelle300: Michelle Moore. Learning Solutions Consultant, ESI International. Crowdsourcing def – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crowdsourcing #lrnchat
9:59:47 pm kellygarber: <– freelance instructional designer, florida – thanks all for the great info #lrnchat
9:59:59 pm ajeanne: Jeanne Farrington… learning & performance consultant & herder of cats. San Jose. Thanks everyone, enjoyed y'all. Night! #lrnchat
10:00:03 pm sleveo: To undertake the kind of knowledge work required to solve complex problems contributors need uninterrupted time in the zone. #lrnchat Yes
10:00:15 pm TerrenceWing: Hey there RT @trishuhl late late late to #lrnchat in snowy Chicago – hoping to clear my Thursday evening for next week! #lrnchat
10:00:28 pm simbeckhampson: Zzzzzzzzz #lrnchat
10:00:34 pm kelly_smith01: From Monty Python: Idiot: Well I may be an idiot but I'm no fool. #lrnchat
10:00:42 pm Spydeesense: @kelly_smith01 Geek has knowledge that spills awkwardly while dork has nothing but spills #lrnchat
10:00:45 pm trishuhl: @michelle300 Enjoy #TK10! and thanks for the Crowdsourcing definition🙂 #lrnchat
10:00:46 pm kellygarber: @kelly_smith01 a geek is intentional, a dork is an accident #lrnchat
10:00:47 pm SuzNet: Suzanne Choma, Roch NY, nice crowdsourcing with you all, g night! #lrnchat
10:00:51 pm sleveo: RT @marciamarcia @jsuzcampos mob implies passionate people . Crowd implies people in the same place, happenstance. #lrnchat Thank you
10:01:14 pm trishuhl: @TerrenceWing Hey back🙂 #lrnchat
10:01:22 pm sandradeeza: Yes, too many cooks. RT @TerrenceWing: Biggest obstacle to crowd sourcing is too much ownership in the answer. #lrnchat (via @marciamarcia)
10:01:25 pm wlonline: RT @tgrevatt: I'd love some help! Looking for comments on our game as wiki application to the DML competition, http://bit.ly/9kZPii #lrnchat
10:01:46 pm odguru: @kelly_smith01 Hmmm not sure. Didn't find discrete dork/geek definitions on the handy reference http://alturl.com/fuh5 #lrnchat
10:01:58 pm kelly_smith01: @kellygarber Them i am a hybrid doeek #lrnchat
10:01:59 pm trishuhl: @kellygarber Dork is a way of behaving? Geek is a way of being? #lrnchat
10:02:04 pm bearclau: RT @JaneBozarth: Many villages have more than one idiot. #lrnchat
10:02:18 pm sleveo: RT @ajeanne: "Mob" implies a group of over-emotional & possibly out-of-control people about to overthrow something. #lrnchat Yes, that too
10:02:29 pm kwooleyy: #lrnchat Learning professionals: Do you ever see or engage the amateurs who are banding together to teach themselves something work-related?
10:02:31 pm TerrenceWing: RT @trishuhl: @kellygarber Dork is a way of behaving? Geek is a way of being? #lrnchat
10:02:42 pm lrnchat: Thank you for joining us on #lrnchat. Pls remember to submit Qs & theme ideas for upcoming chats at http://sn.im/lrnchat . See u next week!

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