Transcript 17 Dec 2009

8:30:48 pm lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been? Q0 warm up after the rules.
8:30:53 pm jaycross: Watch out for heavy volume! #lrnchat is about to begin. #lrnchat
8:31:16 pm Quinnovator: @Ginaschreck cat herder, lunatic fringe wrangler #lrnchat
8:31:32 pm lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1) Introduce yourself. (We do this again at the end). Location? Focus? Fave topics?
8:31:36 pm shantarohse: Getting my TweetChat primed for #lrnchat
8:31:39 pm Ginaschreck: @joe_deegan HA HA! Yes bandwidth is definitely a MUST HAVE in virtual worlds🙂 #lrnchat
8:31:51 pm jaycross: Wonderful day in the Bay Area. Blue skies. Slight nip in the air. #lrnchat
8:31:56 pm marciamarcia: Looking forward to tonight’s #lrnchat on immersive tech. Trying to immerse myself in it all as best as I can.
8:32:26 pm butwait: RT @Quinnovator laptop, check; game on, check; beer, check. Ready for #lrnchat next 90 mins furious tweeting, ignore or better yet, join in!
8:32:31 pm lrnchat: 2) [try to] stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 20 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
8:32:48 pm gwoodill: Gary Woodill, three poodles and two cats from Canada. Brandon Hall Research. #lrnchat
8:33:09 pm KoreenOlbrish: balancing SL and chat is gonna be a challenge😉 #lrnchat
8:33:13 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, Walnut Creek CA, learning design instigator, writer, speaker, consultant, trouble-maker, #lrnchat wrangler
8:33:15 pm BlakeGroup: Amy here! I’m a graphic designer/writer for clients in water utilities, healthcare, education, prof servs. Ready to learn! #lrnchat
8:33:16 pm JaneBozarth: RDU trainer, author, able multitasker, gubmint worker, drive too fast #lrnchat
8:33:19 pm lrnchat: 3) When writing, complete thoughts help followers outside chat learn from you. 4) on #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm, welcome tho.
8:33:28 pm KAKoehler: Looking forward to the next 90 minutes with #lrnchat.
8:33:33 pm jaycross: Jay Cross, speaker and author, Berkeley hills, focus = performance, faves = reality, art, nature, time, learning, sex, travel #lrnchat
8:33:33 pm marciamarcia: Marcia Conner, #lrnchat founder, writing book on social media for learning, hear we’re getting 2ft of snow tomorrow in VA.
8:33:43 pm kkapp: #lrnchat professor Instructional Tech, Bloomsburg University, interested in VIEs, book on topic out in January…Learning in 3D #lrn3d
8:34:05 pm odguru: Christy from Guelph, On, Canada – knowledge networks, mentoring learning transfer and measurement. #lrnchat
8:34:07 pm Ginaschreck: Gina Schreck reporting for duty here in #lrnchat from Denver Colroado
8:34:08 pm JoelFoner: For my followers… I’ll be in a chat on #lrnchat for about an hour… so you’ll see higher than normal volume for an hour. #lrnchat
8:34:13 pm jsuzcampos: Jeannette Campos, ISD, Grad Prof, Small Bus Owner, Signing in from New Hampshire where it is a balmy 3 degrees! #lrnchat
8:34:18 pm sahana2802: Sahana from Pune, India, Instructional designer, passionate abt learning, believe in power of collective knowledge, hate to miss #lrnchat,
8:34:18 pm jaycross: RT When writing, complete thoughts help followers outside chat learn from you. We aim to play nice. Sarcasm, welcome tho. #lrnchat
8:34:23 pm jkmind: #lrnchat Jesse from bitterly cold central NJ. I’m working on sims right now at work so perfect timing on the topic
8:34:25 pm kinda_gay: Hey followers … for next 90min I’ll be chatting about learning on #lrnchat.
8:34:26 pm lrnchat: 5) Periodically RT questions so others outside #lrnchat know what you’re talking about so they can chime in.
8:34:30 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth and twitter celebrity, with groupies and all! #lrnchat
8:34:38 pm ChristyATucker: Lots of activity in the next 90 minutes as I participate in #lrnchat
8:34:38 pm MikeAbrams: Michael Abrams Phoenix AZ #lrnchat
8:34:39 pm kellygarber: <– freelance instructional designer, looking for the lrnchat rehab program #lrnchat
8:34:50 pm gwoodill: Temperature about a nice -10 (that’s for Jay). Refreshing Canadian winter night. #lrnchat
8:35:14 pm reward75: Regina Ward, NYC jack of all things elearning #lrnchat
8:35:15 pm J_Schulz: John Schulz, Learning Techy Guy, Chicago #lrnchat
8:35:26 pm jaycross: Any of you Europeans take the hint to join us here? #lrnchat
8:35:31 pm SueSchnorr: Sue Schnorr, Rochester, NY – independent instructional design consultant #lrnchat
8:35:31 pm Mary_a_Myers: Mary Myers learning consultant trying to stay warm in cold temps in kingston, ON; coming down from a great client meeting high. #lrnchat
8:35:46 pm lrnchat: 6) Remember to include the #lrnchat in all posts. http://tweetchat.com, http://tweetgrid.com & http://twubs.com/lrnchat work well.
8:35:53 pm KoreenOlbrish: Koreen Olbrish (SL: Nina Sommerfleck) immersive learning geek and ready for tonight’s chat. W00t! #lrnchat
8:36:05 pm bschlenker: #lrnchat Brent Schlenker – DevLearn – No books coming out – Arizona 74 degrees and awesome!
8:36:11 pm Mary_a_Myers: @jaycross in that order? #lrnchat
8:36:13 pm Quinnovator: @kellygarber rehab? If #lrnchat is wrong, I don’t want to be right
8:36:38 pm Ginaschreck: @lrnchat Glad to hear that sarcasm is welcome here in #lrnchat
8:36:41 pm lrnchat: 7) 10 min before end, tell us if you need anything from the other #lrnchat participants. Time to reintroduce yourself, too. Links welcome.
8:36:50 pm JaneBozarth: @quinnovator want an autograph? #lrnchat
8:37:40 pm gminks: Gina Minks – elearning person at EMC – more details coming soon, on winter break b4 my last sem @ FSU!🙂 and I love @janebozarth #lrnchat
8:37:41 pm chambo_online: @KoreenOlbrish what starting place will the #lrnchat SL be? (chamboonline Jillybean) #lrnchat
8:37:42 pm kkapp: @JaneBozarth #lrnchat, I do I do, or just a few books:)
8:37:50 pm lrnchat: 8) Please RT important points & vital questions asked for clarification, so we don’t miss them amid the lively fast-paced #lrnchat
8:37:53 pm gwoodill: On topic – Alex Heiphetz & I have new book-virtual worlds for training & collaboration. http://tinyurl.com/ybw42q6 #lrnchat
8:38:24 pm joshcav: #lrnchat CEO, Lodestone Digital . Adobe Training Partner. Speaker. Captain Captivate. Rapid eLeanring dev tools. http://bit.ly/8HHwBv
8:38:29 pm gminks: RT @gwoodill: On topic – Alex Heiphetz & I have new book-virtual worlds for training & collaboration. http://tinyurl.com/ybw42q6 #lrnchat
8:38:43 pm urbie: #lrnchat urbie delgado, unlv.. doctoral student [owie].. journey-person level instructional designer.. http://www.ifthenmaybe.com..
8:38:51 pm Jenrocoh: hoping to bring elearning into 21st century for my org. Know nothing. Listening fiercely. #lrnchat
8:38:53 pm hjarche: I’m Harold, live on the Net, I’m tired & perhaps cranky (crankier than usual), so I’m just lurking tonight #lrnchat
8:39:04 pm JaneBozarth: And I love @gminks . It’s a Twitter thing. #lrnchat
8:39:07 pm Mary_a_Myers: RT @gwoodill: On topic – Alex Heiphetz & I have new book-virtual worlds for training & collaboration. http://tinyurl.com/ybw42q6 #lrnchat
8:39:08 pm Quinnovator: RT @kkapp: @JaneBozarth #lrnchat, I do I do, or just a few books:)
8:39:11 pm kellygarber: @Quinnovator when I’m fixing to miss a project deadline yet I couldn’t miss lrnchat? …wrong, wrong, wrong … #lrnchat
8:39:14 pm lrnchat: Q0 (our weekly #lrnchat welcome, also check out @lrn2day) What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
8:39:37 pm butwait: Likely to be in & out tonite… have to help boy w/ post-practice shower, book-reading, etc. Princeton, NJ… about 12 degrees F. #lrnchat
8:39:41 pm gminks: @JaneBozarth yay. sigh. #lrnchat
8:39:51 pm marciamarcia: For those of you sharing ur SL names, hope you’ll offer advice to the rest on #lrnchat “if I could name myself again…”
8:39:58 pm KoreenOlbrish: @chambo_online http://bit.ly/6aINpd we’re here🙂 #lrnchat
8:40:00 pm Abhinava: Abhinava from Bangalore, India. Sleep deprived but at #lrnchat. Believe in creating holistic, optimism and elegant learning solutions…
8:40:04 pm Ginaschreck: If you want to pop in #lrnchat Second Life -there are a few of us here tweeting & visiting- location http://bit.ly/6aINpd
8:40:06 pm gminks: I learned that being able to communicate across domains is HARRDDDDD #lrnchat
8:40:10 pm jsuzcampos: @JaneBozarth: And I love @gminks . Its a Twitter thing. <<where’s @cammybean? She was feelin’ the #lrnchat love last week🙂 #lrnchat
8:40:17 pm gminks: @hjarche woowoo mr cranky! #lrnchat
8:40:22 pm Mary_a_Myers: I learned my social style: amiable expressive…but I’m not sure what it really means. #lrnchat
8:40:30 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q1) have you been in a virtual world? If so, how? If not, why not? #lrnchat
8:40:33 pm ChristyATucker: Q0: This week I’ve been learning about Brinkerhoff’s Success Case Method for level 3 evaluation #lrnchat
8:40:34 pm JaneBozarth: I work for state govt. Ain’t that enough virtual reality? #lrnchat
8:40:42 pm kkapp: #lrnchat Yes, teach a class called Learning in 3D, we use SL and ProtoSphere
8:40:50 pm MikeAbrams: Just joined the group in Second Life. My SL name is “Milford Revnik”. going on 2 years #lrnchat
8:41:00 pm allisunelearns: Allisun O’Connell here, redwoods of N. Ca, work with Moodlerooms designing eLearning, into everything about eLearning. #lrnchat
8:41:02 pm davegray: Dave Gray checking in from St Louis #lrnchat
8:41:04 pm butwait: @lrn2day I learned today that even an offhand word of encouragement can mean the world to a struggling student. #lrnchat
8:41:09 pm odguru: Well, I’ve just learned about this great new book… http://tinyurl.com/ybw42q6 #lrnchat (via and by @wgoodill)
8:41:19 pm JaneBozarth: @gminks only loves me b/c I am planning her graduation party… #lrnchat
8:41:27 pm hjarche: @jaycross it’s bloody late in Europe #lrnchat
8:41:30 pm Quinnovator: q1) have been in-world, to meet with folks, attend presentations, no real formal learning #lrnchat
8:41:32 pm gminks: I need a new SL name. For my class next semester. I’ve been boycotting SL. grrr. #lrnchat
8:41:34 pm JoelFoner: RT @lrnchat: Q1) have you been in a virtual world? If so, how? If not, why not? #lrnchat
8:41:40 pm urbie: #lrnchat to paraphrase Gen. G.S. Patton, in training as in war, good-enough is the right strategy to pursue.. that’s what i learned..
8:41:40 pm gwoodill: Q0 – learned a political campaign is like a startup business. http://www.brandon-hall.com/workplacelearningtoday/?p=8656 #lrnchat
8:41:41 pm jaycross: Q1: Tried SL but couldn’t get into it. Proton Media works great for meetings. #lrnchat
8:41:47 pm reward75: Q0 I learned that women are socially penalized for negotiating #lrnchat
8:41:50 pm gminks: heh RT @JaneBozarth: I work for state govt. Aint that enough virtual reality? #lrnchat
8:41:53 pm kanor74: I am in SL now and on #lrnchat Come on in…. and join the fun! #lrnchat
8:41:58 pm ThomasStone: Thomas Stone, from Element K in Rochester, NY, where it is a lovely 9 degrees F at the moment. Warm and ready for #lrnchat
8:42:00 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) Never been in a virtual world. All I know about virtual worlds, I learned in one episode of The Office. (true confession) #lrnchat
8:42:01 pm Quinnovator: q0) what I learned this week: relearned to challenge myself (guess they’re called ‘stretch goals’ now) #lrnchat
8:42:04 pm gminks: YOU ARE!!!???!!! RT @JaneBozarth: @gminks only loves me b/c I am planning her graduation party… #lrnchat
8:42:12 pm JoelFoner: I’ve been running virtual and “real world” projects and having bus mtgs in Second Life and other vw’s for about three years. #lrnchat
8:42:22 pm BlakeGroup: Q1 Have not yet visited Second Life or other virtual world….curious…what are the benefits? #lrnchat
8:42:24 pm SueSchnorr: checked out Second Life on friend’s account, to see what it’s all about #lrnchat
8:42:30 pm MikeAbrams: q1) used SL for networking meetups, formal/informal training, process mapping, teambuilding, team meetings #lrnchat
8:42:36 pm allisunelearns: Q) I learned yesterday that Blackboard CE does not support Firefox or IE8 #lrnchat
8:42:37 pm shapah: superb @butwait: @lrn2day I learned today that even an offhand word of encouragement can mean the world to a struggling student. #lrnchat
8:42:42 pm gminks: @JaneBozarth I’ve been talking tonight abt taking pics when I walk across the stage so I can tweet them. heh. #lrnchat
8:42:43 pm Mary_a_Myers: @jaycross i should have anticipated that answer😉 #lrnchat
8:42:49 pm sahana2802: RT @Quinnovator q0) what I learned this week: relearned to challenge myself (guess they’re called ‘stretch goals’ now) #lrnchat
8:42:56 pm kanor74: I’ve been in SL since ’06…teach grad class here, manage office for rl company. Tons of educators in SL! #lrnchat
8:43:01 pm Quinnovator: q1) but watching powerpoint presentations just doesn’t seem to me to be real value proposition of VWs #lrnchat
8:43:01 pm ThomasStone: So for this #lrnchat are we all going to consistently use “SL” to mean “Second Life” instead of “Social Learning”? I’m assuming.
8:43:02 pm kellygarber: Q1 the question could be – have you been in the real world.. I could answer that in under 140 #lrnchat
8:43:03 pm JaneBozarth: @jsuzcampos I don’t know where @cammybean is. Her kids usually go to bed right around #lrnchat time
8:43:04 pm kkapp: @jaycross SL can be cumbersome at times #lrnchat still needs some work as does the whole space but moving in leaps and bounds
8:43:42 pm shantarohse: The last time I was in SL was early 2005. Has anything changed? #lrnchat
8:43:44 pm sahana2802: Learned this week that I can set up WebEx sessions on my own in spite of a sometime wonky connection. #lrnchat
8:43:48 pm everyselearning: I’m in now! Eliza Zulaman. Hi all! #lrnchat
8:43:58 pm JaneBozarth: My SL name is Janiebelle Beaumont but not there tonight b/c it would implode my little pink netbook #lrnchat
8:44:12 pm marciamarcia: Yes RT @ThomasStone So for this #lrnchat are we all going to consistently use “SL” to mean “Second Life” instead of “Social Learning”?
8:44:14 pm kkapp: @jsuzcampos That was a great episode, LOL at Dwight. #lrnchat
8:44:15 pm ChristyATucker: Q1) I’ve been in Second Life for an online conference over a year ago, but not anything recently #lrnchat
8:44:21 pm gminks: @JaneBozarth: @jsuzcampos I’m ready for another NE meet up. That will bring @cammybean out of hiding #lrnchat
8:44:24 pm kanor74: @ThomasStone Yes, SL for Second LIfe….but we won’t tell Linden Lab! #lrnchat
8:44:27 pm allisunelearns: Q1) I joined SL a year ago, attended a tour on the SLOODLE integration with Moodle, that’s about the end of it. #lrnchat
8:44:31 pm shapah: this week i re-learned: garbage in, garbage out #lrnchat
8:44:36 pm rbacal: Guilford’s Structure of Intellect: http://bit.ly/6CqaTc Originator of Multiple Intelligences. Born 1897 #lrnchat
8:44:38 pm Quinnovator: RT @kkapp: @jaycross SL can be cumbersome at times #lrnchat still needs some work as does the whole space but moving in leaps and bounds
8:44:39 pm sahana2802: @ErickTaft Good morning!🙂 missed ur tweet earlier in the stream…#lrnchat
8:44:43 pm JoelFoner: Benefits – better audio than conf calls, more engaging than speakerphone, less complex than video. Can script interactive things. #lrnchat
8:44:47 pm JaneBozarth: @quinnovator I’ll autograph every book you buy. #lrnchat
8:44:48 pm sspaz1000: @lrnchat Q0) I learned today to make sure to triple check stuff when typing up fixes for courses. #lrnchat
8:44:51 pm reward75: Q1 I did SL for a grad class and stayed on for a few months more. Gradually stopped going #lrnchat
8:44:57 pm kkapp: @shantarohse SL a little more stable, search is redesigned, no legal gambling #lrnchat
8:44:59 pm Ginaschreck: I am in Second Life as well as Reaction Grid- getting ready to do a big build project for profes devel in there #lrnchat
8:45:00 pm jaycross: Hi, Karl. Karl Kapp and Tony O’Driscoll have a new book coming out on learning in 3 dimensions. http://bit.ly/8bgrQB #lrnchat
8:45:01 pm Abhinava: To me… The internet is a virtual world… dReams and imagination also create VWs… #lrnchat – VWs are more real than we think… Q1
8:45:04 pm gminks: ok signing up again for SL. First name will be monet, what should my last name be? #lrnchat
8:45:07 pm spotlearning: Hi all. Been away, but glad to be back on #lrnchat
8:45:11 pm ThomasStone: Q0: I learned today that the quirky little book I published last year now has two customer reviews at Amazon http://bit.ly/8oS3ph #lrnchat
8:45:12 pm KoreenOlbrish: Can’t think of too many virtual worlds I haven’t been in… #lrnchat
8:45:13 pm kasey428: Sorry, late to the party: Kay Wood DC metro area, performance and learning specialist, ID extraordinaire #lrnchat
8:45:23 pm sahana2802: RT @gminks @JaneBozarth: @jsuzcampos I’m ready for another NE meet up. That will bring @cammybean out of hiding #lrnchat wish I were there.
8:45:36 pm gwoodill: Q1 – benefits of virtual worlds – presence! You quickly talk to people. Also, some of the sims I’ve seen are quite real. #lrnchat
8:45:38 pm butwait: @everyselearning Hi, Eliza! Glad you made it. 1) I think I’ve an SL account, but haven’t really spent any time. No MUST do impetus. #lrnchat
8:45:42 pm Quinnovator: my SL name is ‘Quinnovate Something’ (seriously!), but not trying tonite with #lrnchat, game, etc #lrnchat
8:45:45 pm joshcav: Q1: I tried Second Life and have used it on and off for a few years. My SL name is Lodestone Loon #lrnchat
8:45:58 pm JaneBozarth: Welcome @kkapp, who has a new book on the way.. Karl, pls tell us title/release date? #lrnchat
8:46:25 pm gminks: @sahana2802 awww I do too!!! #lrnchat
8:46:26 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth pshaw, I’ll do a book *exchange* #lrnchat
8:46:29 pm kellygarber: Q1 – SL is like going on a journey to another planet, every visit is about learning something new. (Cricket Crumb) #lrnchat
8:46:41 pm butwait: Family home, gotta scoot for a while, “Sweeties before tweeties,” as we say around here. Sorry, gang! Keep sharin’ the good stuff! #lrnchat
8:46:56 pm odguru: My first virtual reality experience was with Miramichi College in New Brunswick in 1996… Have done some SL and a few others. #lrnchat
8:47:03 pm Quinnovator: @davegray great to see you here! #lrnchat
8:47:04 pm tomkuehl: Tom eLearning Mgr NYC-yes second life tried to get something going at my org #lrnchat http://myloc.me/2a1Cm
8:47:07 pm jaycross: Does anyone publish books in SL yet? #lrnchat
8:47:09 pm MariaOD: Hi #lrnchat! WoW, its been awhile. Maria from Columbus,Ohio where you never know how the Bucks or the weather will do in any given moment!
8:47:14 pm kasey428: Signed up for SL 18 months ago. Had no clue what to do when I got in. Left & never went back. It’s not intuitive. #lrnchat
8:47:17 pm sahana2802: RT @jaycross Hi, Karl. Karl Kapp and Tony O’Driscoll have a new book coming out on learning in 3 dimensions. http://bit.ly/8bgrQB #lrnchat
8:47:28 pm kinda_gay: 8) Please RT important points & vital questions asked for clarification, so we don’t miss them amid the lively fast-paced #lrnchat
8:47:29 pm MikeAbrams: @kellygarber the beauty is that you get a hand in creating the elements of that journey as well. you can be an architect #lrnchat
8:47:33 pm SueSchnorr: Q1 Has anyone used SL in corp training? #lrnchat
8:47:35 pm chambo_online: Lisa Chamberlin – SL novice, and just discovered social media is the path to enlightenment #justfinishedDan BrownTheLostSymbol #lrnchat
8:47:37 pm J_Schulz: Finally in SL (LearnMe Wizardly) – had to download new viewer. #lrnchat
8:47:37 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator Ok I’ll autograph every book you give me, too. #lrnchat
8:47:56 pm RickNielsen: #lrnchat rick here – the social learning possibilities relative to an internal IS incident reporting – of interest to me…
8:47:59 pm hybridkris: A little late to the #lrnchat party. Kris Rockwell, Pittsburgh, PA. ARG’s and Mobile learning punk.
8:48:06 pm kkapp: @JaneBozarth certainly, Learning in 3D: A New Dimension in Enterprise Learning & Collaboration #lrnchat
8:48:11 pm spotlearning: Q0. I haven’t been on SL in so long I should be embarrassed. Didn’t do much when there either. #lrnchat
8:48:12 pm shapah: good point – also relationships, regardless of plane, require the same ingredients @Abhinava: dreams and imagination create VWs #lrnchat
8:48:13 pm jaycross: RT @kellygarber: Q1 – SL is like a journey to another planet. | | | And the denizens look very odd. #lrnchat
8:48:22 pm kanor74: @kasey428 Sorry u had poor exper. Come back and we can get you started on gr8 new adventure! #lrnchat
8:48:35 pm kkapp: #lrnchat exclusive look at new web site for book under development look at new web site http://www.learningin3d.moonfruit.com/
8:48:37 pm JaneBozarth: My experience is mostly in attending workshops in SL #lrnchat
8:48:54 pm jkunrein: late to the party but happy to be here… Judy Unrein, ID in KC #lrnchat
8:49:00 pm MariaOD: @kasey428 I was on SL and saw lots of “adult” related things. Left because of lack of activities and also hard to use #lrnchat
8:49:09 pm J_Schulz: Apparently I need to figure out how to upgrade my SL appearance. #lrnchat
8:49:10 pm hjarche: I have stayed away from SL but last night was told how well it can work to train front-line hospitality workers #lrnchat
8:49:43 pm sahana2802: Haven’t done too much in SL except roam around now and then. Going to explore it today post the #lrnchat session.
8:49:47 pm kanor74: Adult content now segregated to their own area. #lrnchat
8:49:48 pm kkapp: Q0 #lrnchat virtual worlds work best when there is a reason &purpose to visit informal learning can occur but for 1st experience, have goal
8:49:52 pm Ginaschreck: #lrnchat Virtual worlds are destination & event driven – have a place to go or learing event to attend & its GREAT! without it can be weird
8:49:53 pm JaneBozarth: Karl Kapp’s new book w Tony O’Driscoll: RT @kkapp: “Learning in 3D: A New Dimension in Enterprise Learning & Collaboration” #lrnchat
8:49:57 pm Quinnovator: despite downside of current VW use (ppt presos; NSFW behavior), see huge upside oppt’y for formal & informal learning #lrnchat
8:50:01 pm MikeAbrams: SL has two worlds business/Education and entertainment. The borders are slowly being built to separate the two. Slow going. #lrnchat
8:50:09 pm kasey428: @kanor74 Make it intuitive. I don’t want to take days to figure it out. A clear how-to. #lrnchat
8:50:12 pm hjarche: If I was in SL I could have hair😉 #lrnchat
8:50:14 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth trying to kill the resale value? #lrnchat
8:50:15 pm Mary_a_Myers: q1) i’ve spent minimal time in a virtual world…mainly due to time. signing up again now…iris magnifico #lrnchat
8:50:40 pm JoelFoner: When you’re in a meeting in a vw, you get a strong feeling of “being there” with the other ppl that goes past text chat or voice. #lrnchat
8:50:41 pm marciamarcia: @hjarche Have an example of org using SL to train front line hospitality workers? #lrnchat
8:50:43 pm JaneBozarth: RT @Ginaschreck: #lrnchat Virtual worlds are destination & event driven – have a place to go or learing event to attend
8:50:56 pm sahana2802: RT @JaneBozarth Karl Kapp’s new bk w Tony O’Driscoll: “Learning in 3D: A New Dimension in Enterprise Learning & Collaboration” #lrnchat
8:50:57 pm kkapp: #lrnchat let’s not forget many new “corporate” focused virtual worlds also available
8:51:01 pm urbie: @SueSchnorr #lrnchat tried it at a certain bank a couple of years ago. didn’t go over. that’s why i decided to strike out on my own..
8:51:02 pm KoreenOlbrish: SL is a pretty horrible intro to virtual worlds for a lot of people. Its too bad thats the only platform most people try out. #lrnchat
8:51:07 pm JaneBozarth: @Ginaschreck Yes that was my prob for a long time — I would go in to SL but then not know what to do #lrnchat
8:51:07 pm MariaOD: RT @hjarche: If I was in SL I could have hair ;-)<<lol #lrnchat
8:51:08 pm gwoodill: @SueSchnorr Our book has about 7-8 case studies of corporate training in SL. #lrnchat
8:51:17 pm Mary_a_Myers: i’ve seen great examples of usage esp for healthcare; hospital set ups, etc. #lrnchat
8:51:27 pm MikeAbrams: A challenge with Virtual worlds is the perception they will be too hard to navigate. Any new application takes time. #lrnchat
8:51:36 pm kkapp: @hjarche Yeah, I’ve got lots of hair in SL, trying to export to RL #lrnchat
8:51:36 pm shantarohse: RT @Ginaschreck: Virtual worlds are destination & event driven…without it can be weird. #lrnchat
8:51:44 pm teachernz: Following some new people in #lrnchat
8:51:47 pm hjarche: @marciamarcia not me, but can try to connect of you want details #lrnchat
8:51:51 pm marciamarcia: RT @JoelFoner When in a meeting in a vw, you get a strong feeling of “being there” w/ other ppl that goes past text chat or voice. #lrnchat
8:51:51 pm odguru: RT@Ginaschreck: #lrnchat Virtual worlds r destination & event driven – have a place to go or learing event to attend. same w/communities
8:51:58 pm reward75: I loved SL, made a few close friend there, I just didn’t have the time to continue #lrnchat
8:52:01 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator Don’t make me get the groupies. #lrnchat
8:52:06 pm Quinnovator: @hjarche hair? You can have wings! Horns! A tail! (I see a theme developing😉 #lrnchat
8:52:09 pm Mary_a_Myers: @KoreenOlbrish so what would you recommend starting with? i am pretty new to VWs. #lrnchat
8:52:10 pm chambo_online: My students often can’t find the “assignments” button, not sure they’d stick around to figure out SL #lrnchat
8:52:12 pm jaycross: vw? My first thought: what does Volkswagen have to do with this? (Sorry, my wife’s father worked at the factor in Wolfsburg.) #lrnchat
8:52:14 pm kellygarber: @JaneBozarth @Ginaschreck Wasn’t it like that with Twitter at first? Got here but didn’t know what to do? #lrnchat
8:52:21 pm MariaOD: RT @shantarohse: RT @Ginaschreck: Virtual worlds are destination & event driven…without it can be weird. #lrnchat
8:52:24 pm hybridkris: @kkapp Let me know how that works out for you. #lrnchat
8:52:33 pm hjarche: @kkapp isn’t there an export hair to RL button? #lrnchat
8:52:36 pm Ginaschreck: If you want to see live feed of the group in SL check this out #lrnchat http://bit.ly/5hPGAt
8:52:38 pm Quinnovator: @kkapp right, Second Life isn’t the only VW platform #lrnchat
8:52:44 pm J_Schulz: @KoreenOlbrish But you’re sleeping in SL! What kind of intro is that??🙂 #lrnchat
8:52:49 pm JaneBozarth: RT @KoreenOlbrish: SL pretty horrible intro to virtual worlds for lots of people.. too bad thats the only platform most people try #lrnchat
8:52:51 pm jkunrein: @Mary_a_Myers i’ve also seen some good examples in health care — latest one was training case mgrs to do home safety evaluations #lrnchat
8:52:54 pm MariaOD: We should take #lrnchat to SL!!! #lrnchat
8:52:56 pm jaycross: …factory… #lrnchat
8:52:58 pm allisunelearns: Seems like the future is development in the intersection of virtual worlds & augmented reality. #lrnchat
8:53:09 pm jkmind: #lrnchat I thnk somthing like twitter which is more intuitive is catching on faster as a lrning tool that SL. I jumped on lrncht but not SL
8:53:11 pm hybridkris: @KoreenOlbrish What VW’s do you recommend people try out? #lrnchat
8:53:19 pm JoelFoner: I’ve had ppl say “video is better”, but then work across time zones, and getting “ok for a webcam” at odd hours gets old🙂 #lrnchat
8:53:26 pm gminks: ok, they killed my avatar because my card got changed (bank reissued cards). I just hate SL. there I’ve said it🙂 #lrnchat
8:53:32 pm Quinnovator: RT @Ginaschreck: #lrnchat Virtual worlds are destination & event driven – have a place to go or learing event to attend
8:53:35 pm kasey428: RT @allisunelearns: Seems like the future is development in the intersection of virtual worlds & augmented reality. #lrnchat
8:53:41 pm shapah: @KoreenOlbrish good point – i’ve gathered that metaplace is friendlier for the average bear: http://bit.ly/7Ulgey #lrnchat
8:53:43 pm shantarohse: @reward75 How much time does SL “take” #lrnchat
8:53:43 pm JaneBozarth: @kellygarber Not like it was w/ SL, and I could at least look 4 friends and watch them… #lrnchat
8:53:47 pm KoreenOlbrish: @MariaOD we’re in there, just hard to navigate both SL and tweetchat🙂 #lrnchat
8:54:04 pm gwoodill: Q1 – U of Kansas School of Nursing has great simulation in SL. #lrnchat
8:54:09 pm jkmind: RT @kellygarber: @JaneBozarth @Ginaschreck Wasn’t it like that with Twitter at first? Got here but didn’t know what to do? #lrnchat
8:54:10 pm sahana2802: RT @kkapp #lrnchat let’s not forget many new “corporate” focused virtual worlds also available. Our org has also created an “SL space”.
8:54:13 pm ThomasStone: Those r good, hotel staff training 2 RT @Mary_a_Myers: i’ve seen great examples of usage esp for healthcare; hospital set ups, etc. #lrnchat
8:54:19 pm jaycross: @Quinnovator I just invited Claudia Linden to join us. Can you ping Joe Miller? #lrnchat
8:54:23 pm kkapp: @KoreenOlbrish No kidding #lrnchat
8:54:25 pm jsuzcampos: Can someone please explain the difference between SL and VW? (I have a lot to learn on this topic!). #lrnchat
8:54:28 pm JoelFoner: @KoreenOlbrish I think it’s only a difficult intro if unguided. We’ve brought lots of people in for events and had them say “wow”. #lrnchat
8:54:41 pm gminks: I had a paid acct, tons and tons of stuff including wonder woman outfit, and it all got deleted. I am not happy w/ SL service… #lrnchat
8:54:43 pm urbie: @KoreenOlbrish #lrnchat – it has a very low barrier to entry – brain-dead simple to use. other vr’s i’ve looked at hurt..
8:54:46 pm hjarche: RT @gminks: ok, they killed my avatar because my card got changed (bank reissued cards). I just hate SL. there Ive said it🙂 #lrnchat
8:54:47 pm MariaOD: @KoreenOlbrish what is the surl #lrnchat
8:54:49 pm minutebio: RT @jkunrein: @Mary_a_Myers ive also seen some examples in health care –EMTs and rescue workers have used too #lrnchat
8:54:54 pm odguru: @allisunelearns – Yes hearing a lot about augmented reality lately. #lrnchat
8:54:57 pm paulswansen: RT @gwoodill: Q1 – U of Kansas School of Nursing has great simulation in SL. #lrnchat
8:54:59 pm marciamarcia: @KoreenOlbrish So are you tweeting from w/in SL or have both running side by sideish? #lrnchat
8:55:06 pm Ginaschreck: Im excited about getting going in Reaction Grid-more PG rated – lots of educators there and bringing students – #lrnchat
8:55:12 pm shantarohse: @KoreenOlbrish I continue to marvel at your many concurrent skills🙂 #lrnchat
8:55:14 pm Mary_a_Myers: @jsuzcampos second life is one virtual world platform. #lrnchat
8:55:17 pm KoreenOlbrish: @hybridkris i think most of the other VWs are easier to navigate…I like Protosphere for biz (high end), VenueGen (low cost) #lrnchat
8:55:18 pm MikeAbrams: @ErickTaft In SecondLife, yes. We are gathered and dancing around while typing in #lrnchat.
8:55:18 pm kellygarber: @JaneBozarth right, but with SL-you get to run around and bump into ppl while you try to figure out how to walk and fly!🙂 #lrnchat
8:55:24 pm sahana2802: I am not quite sure what to do once I am in SL altho I do have an avatar…and “it” is young and svelte and all things I am not.🙂 #lrnchat
8:55:31 pm kkapp: #lrnchat VW allow for a feeling of “being” there. research indicates people behave in VW like they do in RL, social space, reactions
8:55:34 pm SueSchnorr: @gwoodill book sounds interesting; pls give title – I’m intersted in case studies of corporate training in SL. #lrnchat
8:55:38 pm kasey428: @gminks I am not moved to take on an alternate persona for some reason. It is a bit disturbing to see how people want to be in VW. #lrnchat
8:55:40 pm JaneBozarth: @jkmind No. #lrnchat
8:55:40 pm Quinnovator: at least a field trip RT @MariaOD: We should take #lrnchat to SL!!!
8:55:50 pm KoreenOlbrish: @marciamarcia side by sideish–not too easy😉 #lrnchat
8:55:54 pm ChristyATucker: Second Life is overwhelming without a guide/mentor and some initial structured activities #lrnchat
8:55:57 pm Quinnovator: or blend RT @allisunelearns: Seems like the future is development in the intersection of virtual worlds & augmented reality. #lrnchat
8:56:00 pm hjarche: barrier to twitter much lower than SL – am I wrong? #lrnchat
8:56:05 pm shantarohse: There are many good SL examples in healthcare. I wonder why that is. #lrnchat
8:56:21 pm Mary_a_Myers: @kellygarber @janebozarth i’ve spent lots of time typing at the wall too🙂 #lrnchat
8:56:24 pm KoreenOlbrish: @shantarohse LOL, i’m not too “active” in SL right now tho🙂 #lrnchat
8:56:29 pm gminks: I advised against using SL because the platform wasn’t stable when we tested it #lrnchat
8:56:33 pm jsuzcampos: Thank you @Mary_a_Myers for the explanation “second life is one virtual world platform” (I had no idea!) #lrnchat
8:56:41 pm jaycross: RT @ChristyATucker: Second Life is overwhelming without a guide/mentor and some initial structured activities #lrnchat
8:56:46 pm joshcav: @gminks A wonder woman outfit.. deleted! No way… I can see how you would be turned off by SL #lrnchat
8:56:48 pm sahana2802: RT @kkapp #lrnchat VW allow for a feeling of “being” there.research indicates people behave in VW like they do in RL,social space, reactions
8:56:49 pm MariaOD: I cannot figure out how to put my undergarment on! Dang! Do I need to pay? #lrnchat
8:56:51 pm jkunrein: biggest prob i have w/ SL is my avatar’s clothes are slower to load than my avatar’s body #lrnchat
8:56:58 pm gminks: @kasey428 I looked like me. But I had a WW outfit. Which is alot like me. LOL #lrnchat
8:57:06 pm allisunelearns: @shantarohse I find healthcare to be ahead of other industries in much of eLearning in general, especially nursing #lrnchat
8:57:08 pm marciamarcia: RT @sahana2802 Not quite sure what to do once in SL altho I have an avatar & “it” is young and svelte and all things I am not.🙂 #lrnchat
8:57:10 pm jmarrapodi: Yay! Back from the freebie Nutcracker performance at the library in time to join the chat. Hi from Jean Marrapodi in Providence, RI #lrnchat
8:57:15 pm JaneBozarth: Yes. RT @hjarche: barrier to twitter much lower than SL – am I wrong? #lrnchat
8:57:18 pm JoelFoner: @hjarche agreed – barrier lower – different advantages. twitter touches everything incl txt on phones. sl is best for other things #lrnchat
8:57:22 pm reward75: @shantarohse As much as you want, but it’s easy to get involved in things. Group meetings, hanging w/ friends. Home life suffered #lrnchat
8:57:26 pm odguru: Would be an interesting study to look at VW personas in comparison to their creators. #lrnchat
8:57:36 pm oxala75: ok, wuddimiss? #lrnchat
8:57:40 pm DavidAKnopf: RT @ChristyATucker: Second Life is overwhelming without a guide/mentor and some initial structured activities | Like First Life! #lrnchat
8:57:45 pm kellygarber: @Mary_a_Myers hahaha – I have a knack for walking into concrete and getting stuck #lrnchat
8:57:48 pm MikeAbrams: she is dancing around to Thriller at the moment with @Ginaschreck @KoreenOlbrish in SL: @shantarohse #lrnchat
8:58:07 pm gwoodill: @SueSchnorr Training & Collaboration w/ Virtual Worlds: How to Create Cost-Saving, Efficient and Engaging Programs McGraw-Hill #lrnchat
8:58:08 pm ThomasStone: @JoelFoner I suspect longterm, for mtgs, video will win out (eg Cisco telepresence), with option of static image if in pajamas #lrnchat
8:58:15 pm urbie: #lrnchat any one know of research on SL in education training? i’m interested in how avatar appearance gates learning
8:58:17 pm KoreenOlbrish: @MariaOD http://bit.ly/6aINpd here we are😉 #lrnchat
8:58:18 pm marciamarcia: WTH? RT @jkunrein Biggest prob i have w/ SL is my avatar’s clothes are slower to load than my avatar’s body #lrnchat
8:58:28 pm kanor74: We are all dancing in SL NOW! #lrnchat
8:58:30 pm hjarche: @JoelFoner thx Joel! I’ve stayed away fm SL as clients just aren’t interested #lrnchat
8:58:34 pm gminks: are ppl in SL right now? slurl plz? #lrnchat
8:58:34 pm chambo_online: Can any VW be accessed on mobile? I tweet, check LMS, etc. from my fone. #lrnchat
8:58:40 pm MariaOD: @jmarrapodi i paid 115 to see it Sat. Lucky you! #lrnchat
8:58:42 pm sahana2802: RT @JaneBozarth Yes. RT @hjarche: barrier to twitter much lower than SL – am I wrong? #lrnchat I have not yet been able to connect to SL.
8:58:57 pm jmarrapodi: @sahana2802 Svelte is a state of mind, dearie. #lrnchat
8:59:06 pm shantarohse: @reward75 OK be frank. On an addiction, how does SL compare to twitter? #lrnchat
8:59:10 pm gwoodill: @kasey428 I took on an alternative persona when I spent a year in France. Every environment does that to you. #lrnchat
8:59:11 pm chambo_online: @urbie Chris Dede is doing science ed research #lrnchat
8:59:14 pm reward75: @marciamarcia That’s a whole other issue with VWs, how to represent urself, can be good and bad at the same time #lrnchat
8:59:23 pm Ginaschreck: #lrnchat we are all doing the THRILLER dance here in SL! Sorry we got distracted🙂
8:59:38 pm jmarrapodi: @MariaOD It was pretty good too. New school getting PR and showing of their kids’ talents. #lrnchat
8:59:49 pm kasey428: What subjects are best for VW? Certainly not an accounting or analytics. Group design projects? Science subject? #lrnchat
9:00:03 pm MikeAbrams: @gminks http://slurl.com/secondlife/MSIT/220/147/34 #lrnchat
9:00:03 pm hybridkris: @chambo_online There is a project underway to bring SL to the iPhone. #lrnchat
9:00:03 pm JoelFoner: @hjarche direct experience changes that belief pretty quickly for most. Many pre-decide based on assumptions. #lrnchat
9:00:11 pm marciamarcia: @urbie I’ve been talking with @moehlert a bunch about that this week. He says the opposite of gate. Opens. #lrnchat
9:00:14 pm JaneBozarth: Also RT @gwoodill:Training & Collaboration w/ Virtual Worlds: How to Create Cost-Saving, Efficient & Engaging Programs McGraw-Hill #lrnchat
9:00:28 pm jmarrapodi: RT @ChristyATucker: Second Life is overwhelming without a guide/mentor and some initial structured activities | Like First Life! #lrnchat
9:00:59 pm sahana2802: RT @JaneBozarth RT @gwoodill:Training & Collaboration w/ VWs: How to Create Cost-Saving, Efficient & Engaging Programs McGraw-Hill #lrnchat
9:00:59 pm gwoodill: @shantarohse There are also lots of games in healthcare. I think its because healthcare is expensive – trying to cut costs. #lrnchat
9:01:00 pm hjarche: @JoelFoner still gotta go where the money is😦 #lrnchat
9:01:02 pm hybridkris: @chambo_online Also, there have been a number of MMO’s that have released mobile tie-ins. #lrnchat
9:01:04 pm SueSchnorr: I’m on it! @gwoodill Training & Collaboration w/ Virtual Worlds: How to Create Cost-Saving, Efficient&Engaging Programs McGrawHill #lrnchat
9:01:08 pm Quinnovator: @jaycross I’ve pinged him by email, not online #lrnchat
9:01:12 pm jaycross: RT @hybridkris: @chambo_online There is a project underway to bring SL to the iPhone.||| Good luck with the bandwidth of the iPhone #lrnchat
9:01:13 pm rbacal: @Ginaschreck Just dropping in. THAT is amazing (SL), and you know I’m not easily impressed by social media. #lrnchat Sorry, gotta run.
9:01:14 pm KoreenOlbrish: @gminks SL slurl: http://bit.ly/6aINpd #lrnchat
9:01:21 pm reward75: @shantarohse For me Twitter is easier cuz u can catch up later, SL is more real time, if you’re not there u feel like u miss a lot #lrnchat
9:01:21 pm spotlearning: @hybridkris Oh great, now the guy in the SUV beside me can call a virtual doctor when he runs me off the road! #lrnchat
9:01:30 pm ThomasStone: @kasey428 Agreed re: alternate persona. I’m not oblivious to the reasons for this, but I think that won’t catch on in biz. #lrnchat
9:01:30 pm Quinnovator: @chambo_online believe protosphere has social network accessible inworld or from desktop, not yet via mobile #lrnchat
9:01:34 pm marciamarcia: Well said! RT @JoelFoner Direct experience changes that belief pretty quickly for most. Many pre-decide based on assumptions. #lrnchat
9:01:40 pm sahana2802: RT @jmarrapodi RT @ChristyATucker: Second Life is overwhelming without a guide/mentor and some initial structured activities | Yes! #lrnchat
9:01:41 pm szpak: @marciamarcia What to do in SL? Get to know real people, “from the inside out”, and explore embodiment and presence, yours & theirs #lrnchat
9:01:44 pm jkunrein: oh at&t will loooove that😛 RT @hybridkris: @chambo_online There is a project underway to bring SL to the iPhone. #lrnchat
9:01:45 pm minutebio: RT @kasey428: What subjects are best for VW? Soft skills. Sales…I believe Harvard Law even has a court room for role-play #lrnchat
9:01:46 pm Ginaschreck: @shantarohse Anything that is FUN and offers chance to learn and share with others is addicting in my book #lrnchat
9:01:57 pm KoreenOlbrish: I’m kinda amused that I’m dancing to Thriller with a bunch of my #lrnchat peeps. awesome. #lrnchat
9:02:13 pm odguru: In most VWs there is no expectation that URr avatar IS u, just that it REPRESENTS u.Unlike Facebook where it seems creepy to lie… #lrnchat
9:02:18 pm shantarohse: Someone tweeted SL is NOT a good intro. Then what is(for the timid)? #lrnchat
9:02:24 pm allisunelearns: @kasey428 Engineering has been taught w/ SL & a paper written on it https://www.sloodle.org/blog/?p=157 #lrnchat
9:02:29 pm ThomasStone: 100 times lower… multiple barriers lower! RT @hjarche: barrier to twitter much lower than SL – am I wrong? #lrnchat
9:02:38 pm JoelFoner: Just talked to @ginaschreck. She I will put together a guided first experience, discussion, and tour sometime soon. #lrnchat
9:02:47 pm MariaOD: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Im kinda amused that Im dancing to Thriller with a bunch of my #lrnchat peeps. awesome.<<lol #lrnchat
9:02:51 pm shantarohse: RT @reward75: For me Twitter is easier cuz u can catch up later, SL is more real time, if youre not there u feel like u miss a lot #lrnchat
9:02:57 pm jmarrapodi: Looks like Firefox doesn’t like Second Life? Can’t open @ginaschreck’s link there. Says it doesn’t know the program. Odd. #lrnchat
9:03:00 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q2a) which virtual environment (aug.reality, virt.worlds)do you think’s more ready for use in workplace training? #lrnchat
9:03:05 pm everyselearning: I’ve been dancing to Thriller on SL #lrnchat
9:03:08 pm marciamarcia: @szpak Welcome, Mark, where the heck did you come from? First @Ginaschreck, then you? What a day, what an evening! #lrnchat
9:03:14 pm teachernz: dancing to thriller in SL🙂 #lrnchat
9:03:15 pm gwoodill: @jkunrein Males have a problem with their bodies in SL – no penis. You have to buy one…. #lrnchat
9:03:18 pm KoreenOlbrish: Once you get past the novelty of it, people and relationships are the reasons to go back into virtual worlds #lrnchat
9:03:18 pm sahana2802: RT @allisunelearns @kasey428 Engineering has been taught w/ SL & a paper written on it https://www.sloodle.org/blog/?p=157 #lrnchat
9:03:36 pm dwilkinsnh: I’ve tried SL on two occasions. Eventually wrote a couple of posts on it: http://bit.ly/8QIVVg and http://bit.ly/7Hl2eA #lrnchat
9:03:39 pm Mary_a_Myers: i’ve seen examples of events with “classroom” set ups too in SL. but i always wondered what the advantage was over webex etc. #lrnchat
9:03:45 pm kanor74: SL is used for training in education, medicine, engineering, architecture, etc. #lrnchat
9:03:46 pm ThomasStone: @shantarohse Because it gives a safe environment to learn from failure — healthcare training nec. very safety conscious. #lrnchat
9:03:50 pm jmarrapodi: @szpak Do you find people are more “real” in SL? Teens create alternate personas. #lrnchat
9:03:51 pm JoelFoner: One way to handle the realtime and catch-up is to record video stream @shantarohse and @reward75. #lrnchat
9:03:57 pm wadatripp: #lrnchat jay cross told me you were all discussing immersive lrng tonight. Out at dinner but wanted to at least say hello!
9:03:58 pm Quinnovator: Q2a) actually think VW closer to being ready for primetime (mobile device layers/compass etc still not ubiquitous) #lrnchat
9:04:01 pm hybridkris: @spotlearning Kind of like the girls in Aus who got caught in the sewer used a phone to post a msg on FB rather than call police. #lrnchat
9:04:01 pm jmarrapodi: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Once you get past the novelty of it, people and relationships are the reasons to go back into virtual worlds #lrnchat
9:04:04 pm MikeAbrams: @gwoodill umm..that isn’t a required purchase for training. lol #lrnchat
9:04:04 pm jkmind: @JoelFoner #lrnchat let me know when. I’d like to join
9:04:08 pm shantarohse: RT @JoelFoner: Just talked to @ginaschreck. She I will put together a guided first experience, discussion, and tour sometime soon. #lrnchat
9:04:25 pm joe_deegan: Definitely great for soft skills and sales RT @minutebio @kasey428: What subjects are best for VW? Soft skills. Sales… #lrnchat
9:04:28 pm sahana2802: RT @KoreenOlbrish Once you get past the novelty of it, people and relationships are the reasons to go back into virtual worlds #lrnchat
9:04:30 pm rbacal: @Ginaschreck Umm. you were calling me, but I’m lost. I’m watchin on joelfone. #lrnchat
9:04:33 pm reward75: @jmarrapodi U can’t access SL via a browser, u have to use an SL viewer – a program to access the platform #lrnchat
9:04:37 pm dwilkinsnh: Was big fan of ProtonMedia for awhile, but they were being shopped last I knew (2 yrs ago). Anyone know if they are still around? #lrnchat
9:04:38 pm jmarrapodi: @KoreenOlbrish Guess that relationship thing is what social media is all about , huh? #lrnchat
9:04:45 pm ChristyATucker: RT @jmarrapodi: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Once you get past the novelty of it, people and relationships are the reasons to go back to VWs #lrnchat
9:04:49 pm Quinnovator: true for twitter too, no? RT @KoreenOlbrish: Once past novelty, people and relationships are reasons to go back into VWs #lrnchat
9:05:05 pm jbrogley: @teachernz Where are you man?! #lrnchat
9:05:05 pm kkapp: Q2A try http://protonmedia.com/trial-download/ or venugen to start for a corporate intro of a VW #lrnchat
9:05:07 pm jkunrein: @gwoodill female SL avatars aren’t really bio-correct either.😛 #lrnchat
9:05:08 pm kanor74: the psychology in SL is interesting. Avatars are truly extension in trms of energy, feelings, etc. #lrnchat
9:05:39 pm jmarrapodi: @teachernz Great icon! #lrnchat
9:05:41 pm kanor74: Meeting ‘f2f’ in SL is very important dimention over web conf. #lrnchat
9:05:43 pm urbie: @KoreenOlbrish #lrnchat anecdotal observation or evidence?
9:05:50 pm MariaOD: RT @Quinnovator: true for twitter too, no? RT @KoreenOlbrish:Once past novelty, people and relationships are reasons to go back2VWs #lrnchat
9:05:56 pm jmarrapodi: @kanor74 Love the Santa hat! #lrnchat
9:06:03 pm teachernz: @Quinnovator I guess second life looks like the most ready, but there are others out there, not mature yet #lrnchat
9:06:15 pm hybridkris: Q2: It interests me that folks have looked at WoW for training entrepreneurial skills. #lrnchat
9:06:18 pm wadatripp: #lrnchat Lots of stuff about Immersive learning and the emergence of the “Immernet” on my blog: http://wadatripp.wordpress.com
9:06:19 pm KoreenOlbrish: i almost just bumped into @hybridkris in SL. Sorry! (definitely extension of self) #lrnchat
9:06:29 pm joe_deegan: Second Life lost me at setting up the Avatar. Needs to be easier to get jump started. #lrnchat
9:06:31 pm kkapp: @dwilkinsnh Around stil not being shopped, just integrated with SharePoint, doing neat stuff #lrnchat http://protonmedia.com/trial-download/
9:06:31 pm chambo_online: My learning curve for Twitter – 30 seconds – Still can’t figure out how to dance the Thriller tonight. #lrnchat
9:06:31 pm JoelFoner: SL is not a replacement for F2F, or for voice only, or text chat, but does fill a good space between them. #lrnchat
9:06:37 pm gminks: ok I’m in sl #lrnchat
9:06:39 pm dwilkinsnh: I have to say though I can’t see the majority of learners in a virt world; most still don’t know basic soc media like Wikis & tags #lrnchat
9:06:44 pm jmarrapodi: RT @kanor74: the psychology in SL is interesting. Avatars are truly extension in trms of energy, feelings, etc. #lrnchat
9:06:47 pm gminks: so hating my new avatarar #lrnchat
9:06:50 pm gwoodill: @jkunrein SL is interesting for gender switching. Try being a man for awhile. You’ll see how difficult it really is…:-) #lrnchat
9:06:52 pm kasey428: As a govt. contractor who develops materials in financial mgt. VWs really would be a stretch delivery method. Can’t see it. #lrnchat
9:06:59 pm hybridkris: Q2: Also of note, Aeroflot uses SL to teach English language for aviation. They have AI to teach English. #lrnchat
9:07:06 pm hjarche: @marciamarcia @szpak OK – I’ve met Mark but I’ve talked much more to Marcia (virtually) – weird world #lrnchat
9:07:09 pm Quinnovator: agreed RT @teachernz: @Quinnovator I guess second life looks like the most ready, but there are others out there, not mature yet #lrnchat
9:07:13 pm KoreenOlbrish: @urbie actually, my personal experience…spent 6 months in world and researched what drew people back (and me too!) #lrnchat
9:07:21 pm chambo_online: Now my avatar is dancing and I didn’t do it…longer learning curve in SL for sure. #lrnchat
9:07:25 pm JoelFoner: It allows construction of real simulations – interactive environments that are scripted to respond and teach. Great hospital sims. #lrnchat
9:07:30 pm Ginaschreck: @kanor74 I agree – “Face2FAce” is important benefit in virtual worlds-even if face is avatar face #lrnchat
9:07:35 pm allisunelearns: Has there been any development in blending games & virtual worlds? #lrnchat
9:07:47 pm jmarrapodi: @teachernz If avitars are extensions, do U think people “brand” them like the concepts of “personal branding” -design the persona? #lrnchat
9:07:56 pm sahana2802: @gminks So am I… What do I do now that I am in SL? #lrnchat
9:07:58 pm gminks: I can see it for some types of training #lrnchat
9:07:59 pm odguru: RT: @dwilkinsnh … can’t see the majority of learners in a virt world; most still don’t know basic soc media like Wikis & tags #lrnchat
9:07:59 pm jkunrein: @gwoodill or, for that matter, species-switching… #lrnchat
9:08:05 pm MikeAbrams: http://twitpic.com/tyjbo – Picture of the crowd in Second Life participating in #lrnchat
9:08:20 pm dwilkinsnh: @kkapp Well if ProtonMedia is still around, I’d give them a real look – got a real deep dive a couple of yrs ago, very impressive #lrnchat
9:08:23 pm JoelFoner: Many folks report that once you “do” have a f2f relationship with someone, the connection in a VW is much stronger. #lrnchat
9:08:31 pm gwoodill: @kasey428 Wells Fargo had a presence in SL for awhile – to teach teens about managing money. #lrnchat
9:08:38 pm Ginaschreck: @gminks You will get it jazzed up! I will give you some great clothes and stuff🙂 #lrnchat
9:08:41 pm jmarrapodi: RT @JoelFoner: SL is not a replacement for F2F, or for voice only, or text chat, but does fill a good space between them. #lrnchat
9:08:43 pm Quinnovator: RT @dwilkinsnh: have to say can’t see majority of learners in a VW; most still don’t know basic soc media like Wikis & tags #lrnchat
9:08:47 pm jkmind: #lrnchat i stl thnk use the right tool for the right content. don’t just do it for the coolness
9:08:51 pm kanor74: Branding..absolutely! I am branded as Emilia Cornwall across my digital footprint #lrnchat
9:09:03 pm Ginaschreck: @jmarrapodi It requires you to set up your fee acct and download program – takes abt 10 min😦 #lrnchat
9:09:18 pm gminks: @sahana2802 dance like a zombie apparently #lrnchat
9:09:22 pm jkunrein: @hybridkris it interests me that people use WoW for anything other than entertainment. i play but i don’t consider it a VW. #lrnchat
9:09:32 pm kkapp: #lrnchat F2F not always possible, VWs can add extra learning & collaboration between F2F events.augment not replace existing learning events
9:09:41 pm hybridkris: @allisunelearns There are groups that use MMO’s for learning. I think that would qualify. #lrnchat
9:09:43 pm Ginaschreck: @rbacal Which avatar is YOU? I can’t beleive you are here??!! #lrnchat
9:09:44 pm gminks: RT @jkmind: #lrnchat i stl thnk use the right tool for the right content. dont just do it for the coolness #lrnchat
9:09:47 pm Mary_a_Myers: it’s been diffficult to even get across the value of twitter…but never say never! #lrnchat
9:10:01 pm teachernz: @jmarrapodi i just tried to make me look as much like me as possible. turned out younger and thinner #lrnchat
9:10:02 pm KoreenOlbrish: i actually don’t think SoMe is a stepping stone to virtual worlds…completely different user experience and immersive quality #lrnchat
9:10:22 pm urbie: @SueSchnorr #lrnchat iboggling to me how the training venues in SL look like places in hotels where workshops are held. they don’t get it
9:10:26 pm gminks: RT @Ginaschreck thats my issue. I HAD cool clothes. I got screwed by SL’s horrible support #lrnchat
9:10:33 pm HalellyAzulay: Very cool bunch! RT @MikeAbrams: http://twitpic.com/tyjbo – Picture of the crowd in Second Life participating in #lrnchat
9:10:34 pm jaycross: RT @MikeAbrams: http://twitpic.com/tyjbo – Picture of the crowd in Second Life participating in ||| I love it! Luigi Pirandello #lrnchat
9:10:35 pm chambo_online: I don’t see tech newbies loving anything that has multiple menus for directions – it’s gotta be intuitive. #lrnchat
9:10:39 pm odguru: RT @jkmind: #lrnchat i stl thnk use the right tool for the right content. dont just do it for the coolness
9:10:43 pm kanor74: Cost savings to meet in SL…no travel, hotels, meals, etc. #lrnchat
9:10:47 pm Quinnovator: find interesting similarities between ARG and VWs: both are augmenting world just whether virtual or real #lrnchat
9:10:49 pm teachernz: @Quinnovator and others are open… can host yourself if inclined to or able to #lrnchat
9:10:59 pm kasey428: I would like to learn more about VWs for my own benefit. Just can’t see it for my clients and the subject matter we focus on. #lrnchat
9:10:59 pm dwilkinsnh: I think biggest use of virt world is stuff that benefits from sim of virtual objects like insurance adjusting; what else? #lrnchat
9:11:05 pm jaycross: RT @KoreenOlbrish: i actually dont think SoMe is a stepping stone to virtual worlds…completely different user experience #lrnchat
9:11:09 pm allisunelearns: RT @KoreenOlbrish: i actually dont think SoMe is a stepping stone to virtual worlds…different user experience & immersive quality #lrnchat
9:11:11 pm MariaOD: RT@jkmind: #lrnchat i stl thnk use the rght tool for the right cntent.dnt just do it for thecoolness<yes but dnt underestimate PLAY #lrnchat
9:11:12 pm sahana2802: RT @kkapp #lrnchat F2F not always possible, VWs add extra learning & collaboration btn F2F events, augment not replace existing lrng events
9:11:17 pm chambo_online: Right tool for the right content, but also right tool for the learners #lrnchat
9:11:17 pm Quinnovator: still, think learning design principles for Real world hold for VWs too #lrnchat
9:11:19 pm MikeAbrams: virtual worlds have their place, just like any other training delivery mechanism. Used properly, powerful. Overused…pointless #lrnchat
9:11:22 pm reward75: @dwilkinsnh Each SoMe method is independent of each other, I used and understood SL b4 I ever used a wiki #lrnchat
9:11:23 pm KoreenOlbrish: in other words, just because you don’t “get” Twitter/wikis/blogs doesn’t mean you won’t “get” virtual worlds #lrnchat
9:11:29 pm jkmind: RT @Mary_a_Myers: it’s been diffficult to even get across the value of twitter…but never say never! #lrnchat
9:11:30 pm kanor74: My grad student had no exper. in SL…after 5 sessions, loved it! #lrnchat
9:11:31 pm Ginaschreck: @gminks BOO- great clothes and shoes definitely make the avatar!😀 #lrnchat
9:11:33 pm joshcav: Has anyone been involved with a scripted environment roll-out in SL? How much did it cost? #lrnchat
9:11:37 pm JoelFoner: One way to think about vw’s for bus and edu is that if you are trying for social interaction and vid doesn’t work, good option. #lrnchat
9:11:40 pm Quinnovator: @wadatripp you’re not reading my blog, steadily being corrupted😉 #lrnchat
9:11:41 pm Ginaschreck: @rbacal too funny! #lrnchat
9:11:45 pm urbie: @KoreenOlbrish #lrnchat can you share your research or is it proprietary?
9:11:47 pm minutebio: RT @Mary_a_Myers: its been difflt to even get across the value of twitter.. –best way is to get them to use. Need 2 experience it #lrnchat
9:11:55 pm hybridkris: @jkunrein There is a great book about it that was published by MIT Press. I don’t have the title handy though. #lrnchat
9:11:59 pm RobRobertson: Agreed! RT @KoreenOlbrish dont think SoMe is stepping stone to virtual world completely different user experience & immersive qlty #lrnchat
9:12:07 pm kkapp: #lrnchat remember when we had to teach that underlined words on the web were links & opened new windows…now its natural VWs headed there
9:12:10 pm shantarohse: RT @KoreenOlbrish: … SoMe is [not] a stepping stone to virtual worlds…completely different user experience & immersive quality #lrnchat
9:12:13 pm chambo_online: @KoreenOlbrish Reverse is true as well. #lrnchat
9:12:16 pm Quinnovator: @wadatripp still some ‘issues’ however (cf #Lrnchat dialog of ‘overhead)
9:12:19 pm jaycross: RT @kanor74: Cost savings to meet in SL…no travel, hotels, meals, etc. ||| Same deal with telephones, web ex, etc. #lrnchat
9:12:26 pm KAKoehler: RT @Quinnovator: still, think learning design principles for Real world hold for VWs too #lrnchat : agreed
9:12:41 pm gwoodill: @MikeAbrams Where is the #lrnchat group gathering in SL? #lrnchat
9:12:46 pm dwilkinsnh: I wonder though too if maybe I’m not a good exemplar. I mean, I don’t even like to take the time to create a Mii on my Wii… ; ) #lrnchat
9:12:56 pm nancyrubin: Arrived late…ready to tweet though #lrnchat
9:13:01 pm urbie: #lrnchat the problem with relying on VW for learning is fidelity. how do you integrate look and feel with performance?
9:13:08 pm KoreenOlbrish: @urbie I actually use it in most of my presentations and as the basis for my design #lrnchat
9:13:13 pm hybridkris: Q2B – We have a program now that is a good candidate. It requires an airframe that there are very few of. VW’s would be great. #lrnchat
9:13:18 pm kanor74: @jaycross not same since SL adds the f2f dimension #lrnchat
9:13:20 pm odguru: For introduction of both VM & SoMe generational differences are a wild factor, ie. 4 a diverse sales force or engineering co. #lrnchat
9:13:22 pm sahana2802: RT @gwoodill @MikeAbrams Where is the #lrnchat group gathering in SL? #lrnchat
9:13:24 pm Ginaschreck: @marciamarcia mention virtual worlds & we come out of the woodwork!🙂 #lrnchat
9:13:28 pm JoelFoner: VW also encourages new design approaches. Can design in more interactivity such as 3D active displays, connect to web db’s for data #lrnchat
9:13:30 pm jkunrein: @hybridkris i should say WoW is not a VW in the same sense as SL… it’s a game in which you have 0 ability to affect environment. #lrnchat
9:13:58 pm john_larkin: RT @gminks: RT @jkmind: #lrnchat i stl thnk use the right tool for the right content. dont just do it for the coolness #lrnchat
9:14:02 pm MitchSquires: Love it! RT @teachernz: dancing to thriller in SL🙂 #lrnchat
9:14:03 pm nancyrubin: This was a good post about the use of avatars – http://archiespeaksout.blogspot.com/2009/09/characters-in-elearning.html #lrnchat
9:14:11 pm Quinnovator: real unique ‘affordance’ (*drink*) of VWs: collaborative model building, but don’t see a lot of it yet #lrnchat
9:14:12 pm ThomasStone: RT @dwilkinsnh:I can’t see the majority of learners in a virt world; most still don’t know basic soc media like Wikis & tags #lrnchat
9:14:16 pm dwilkinsnh: @reward75 I think that’s legit, but investment to create a presence and learn to navigate a VW is way higher than a wiki #lrnchat
9:14:17 pm bschlenker: @hybridkris got any links for the WoW stuff? Need a good reason to keep my subscription😉 #lrnchat
9:14:19 pm jaycross: RT @kanor74: @jaycross not same since SL adds the f2f dimension ||| Like a Skype video call? #lrnchat
9:14:20 pm kasey428: RT @dwilkinsnh: I wonder though too if maybe Im not a good exemplar. …I dont even like to take time to create a Mii on my Wii) #lrnchat
9:14:31 pm MikeAbrams: http://slurl.com/secondlife/MSIT/220/147/34 @sahana2802 @gwoodill #lrnchat group gathering in SL #lrnchat
9:14:36 pm gwoodill: @joshcav @Alex_Heiphetz does scripted rollouts. He’s lurking here because posting is not working for him. #lrnchat
9:14:42 pm nancyrubin: Personally, I have found scenarios developed in SL and VLs easier to use with audiences than actually taking them into environment #lrnchat
9:14:51 pm chambo_online: @dwilkinsnh Wii is good to bring up, no real learning curve to “play” most games there. Intuitive “play” breeds success of VW #lrnchat
9:14:56 pm jaycross: RT @Quinnovator: real unique affordance (*drink*) of VWs: collaborative model building, but dont see a lot of it yet #lrnchat
9:15:06 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q2b) What parts of workplace training are ripe for augmented reality, virtual environments? Why? #lrnchat
9:15:10 pm JoelFoner: @ThomasStone Have you tried a vw before for this sort of use? Different sorts of uses.. Have seen new users adapt easily. #lrnchat
9:15:22 pm marciamarcia: @dwilkinsnh I’m with you about the mii wii thing. #lrnchat
9:15:23 pm jkmind: #lrnchat I’m dsng trning for navy. seems good way to trn so new sailors are more ready the moment they board ship
9:15:34 pm KoreenOlbrish: when designing for virtual worlds, i like to think “how could you best teach ppl if money/resources/geography was not an issue?” #lrnchat
9:15:37 pm shantarohse: @JoelFoner The idea of co-constructing 3D objects struck me as a unique learning design #lrnchat
9:15:41 pm kanor74: @jaycross Skype only offers video 1 to 1. SL groups! #lrnchat
9:15:46 pm kkapp: @jkunrein #lrnchat, I view WoW as game/VW & SL & others as metaverse-a platform where learning can be built, like LMS is empty til added to
9:15:46 pm Mary_a_Myers: @nancyrubin so you develop and then share the experience? #lrnchat
9:15:53 pm reward75: @dwilkinsnh I’m also not a good example, I learned how to play chess b4 I learned to play checkers🙂 #lrnchat
9:15:55 pm nancyrubin: Q2 – Any real world situation that can be modeled with characters in situations #lrnchat
9:16:16 pm nancyrubin: @Mary_a_Myers exactly #lrnchat
9:16:21 pm odguru: @chambo_online True – Wii has conquered all generations. My husband is a gerontoloigist & there are Wiis o’plenty in long term care #lrnchat
9:16:22 pm jkmind: #lrnchat would be interested if we could interact in vw with wii. Now that I would check out. Should be getting wii sometime this year
9:16:23 pm chambo_online: Q2b – any kind of customer simulation #lrnchat
9:16:23 pm Quinnovator: Q2b) collaborative model building, 3D social learning (and scale is fascinating opportunity not available in real life) #lrnchat
9:16:27 pm ThomasStone: @urbie But that’s b/c most formal training doesn’t require a VW env. to deliver it — overkill. Inappropriate use of latest tech. #lrnchat
9:16:41 pm JaneBozarth: Q2b) What parts of workplace training are ripe for augmented reality, virtual environments? Why? #lrnchat
9:16:46 pm jkunrein: @kkapp good distinction, agreed. #lrnchat
9:16:49 pm bschlenker: @KoreenOlbrish When can I get into 2L from my iPhone? #lrnchat
9:16:59 pm Quinnovator: Q2b) contextualized performance: mapping model to real world, detecting contextual clues/problems, #lrnchat
9:16:59 pm JoelFoner: Medical training simulations have been amazing – one taught emergency room process. AI chars critique process mistakes and grade. #lrnchat
9:17:04 pm Mary_a_Myers: @Quinnovator q2B anytime you require a safe practice environment…or another party to interact with (sales, patients, etc.) #lrnchat
9:17:09 pm nancyrubin: I hope my friend Chris (who has all the experience) is here and that he chimes in tonight #lrnchat
9:17:12 pm MariaOD: RT @bschlenker: @KoreenOlbrish When can I get into 2L from my iPhone? #lrnchat
9:17:13 pm jaycross: RT @kanor74: @jaycross Skype only offers video 1 to 1. SL groups! || True, true. Unless you run it in an Adobe Connect session. (6) #lrnchat
9:17:17 pm sahana2802: RT @KoreenOlbrish when designing for VWs, i like to think “how cld u best teach ppl if money/resources/geography was not an issue?” #lrnchat
9:17:17 pm urbie: @bschlenker #lrnchat there’s an app for that
9:17:30 pm ThomasStone: exactly! VW often overkill RT @odguru: RT @jkmind: #lrnchat i stl thnk use the rt tool for the rt content. dont just do it for the coolness
9:17:37 pm JaneBozarth: @bschlenker Wait till ATT finds out you want SL on your iPhone. They don’t like runnin’ Shazam… #lrnchat
9:17:44 pm JoelFoner: @schlenker @koreenolbrish – I have heard that there is an iPhone app, but haven’t tried it. #lrnchat
9:17:48 pm SueSchnorr: just getting back/so may be out of context but oovoo.com offers more than video 1-1 kanor74 @jaycross. SL groups! #lrnchat –
9:17:55 pm KoreenOlbrish: @bschlenker actually you already can🙂 #lrnchat
9:17:56 pm espnguyen: I’ve been wanting to use something like Roller Coaster Tycoon as a VW where we can teach basic finance skills among other things #lrnchat
9:17:59 pm nancyrubin: Scenario based learning is great for VW simulations and virtual characters #lrnchat
9:18:05 pm shantarohse: My SL login from 2005 still works! But I can’t remember if I am dressed for the occasion😉 #lrnchat
9:18:06 pm hybridkris: @bschlenker That’s on the way…Just not exactly how you picture it. #lrnchat
9:18:08 pm Mary_a_Myers: @nancyrubin that’s interesting b/c i’ve taken way more out of observing then taking part up to this point anyway (so far :)) #lrnchat
9:18:10 pm urbie: @bschlenker #lrnchat look for Touch Life app in the app store
9:18:17 pm Quinnovator: @KoreenOlbrish exactly: what if you had ‘magic’! (Old design trick) #lrnchat
9:18:18 pm allisunelearns: Q2b) Training to work with things, such as parts of computer as you are taking it apart #lrnchat
9:18:32 pm nancyrubin: Good intro to scenario based learning http://www.slideshare.net/kernlearningsolutions/scenario-based-learning-2103566 #lrnchat
9:18:34 pm MariaOD: RT @bschlenker: @KoreenOlbrish When can I get into 2L from my iPhone?<<Open Sim? #lrnchat
9:18:36 pm JoelFoner: RT @nancyrubin Scenario based learning is great for VW simulations and virtual characters #lrnchat
9:18:43 pm reward75: Q2b While I was on SL, I kept trying to get my org to use it for onboarding #lrnchat
9:18:53 pm kkapp: #lrnchat short video showing difference between 2D and 3D learning for same topic
9:19:09 pm Ginaschreck: @jaycross I recently did a meeting with OOVOO which is like Brady Bunch – 6 people lined up – cool #lrnchat
9:19:16 pm gwoodill: WoW book MIT: Digital Culture, Play, & Identity http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Culture-Play-Identity-Warcraft/dp/0262033704 #lrnchat
9:19:26 pm RobRobertson: @shantarohse 2005! impressive! #lrnchat
9:19:41 pm ThomasStone: @KoreenOlbrish fair enough, but I think dave’s pt was that ‘getting’ wikis / tags is usually easier, and yet most in corp. struggle #lrnchat
9:19:52 pm SueSchnorr: Cool! Good 4 u! @urbie #lrnchat tried it at a certain bank a couple of years ago. didn’t go over. that’s why i decided strike out on my own
9:20:09 pm nancyrubin: students love to use avatar software, too. give them a chance to play with oddcast or xtranormal and they will love it! #lrnchat
9:20:13 pm hybridkris: RT @gwoodill: WoW book MIT: Digital Culture, Play, & Identity http://tinyurl.com/ycfxetb #lrnchat <—-THAT’S IT!
9:20:16 pm kanor74: Web conf. has its place; SL offers so many things to see and do! #lrnchat
9:20:17 pm jkunrein: links or it didn’t happen RT @kkapp: #lrnchat short video showing difference between 2D and 3D learning for same topic #lrnchat
9:20:24 pm jaycross: RT @Ginaschreck: @jaycross I did a meeting with OOVOO which is like Brady Bunch 6 people lined up ||| I’ll try ooVoo again. Thx #lrnchat
9:20:38 pm urbie: @SueSchnorr #lrnchat – it’s the phd pursuit that makes me ask so many questions and for the evidence..
9:20:52 pm JoelFoner: This is a hard one to explain, but once used to it, a distributed team meeting in SL “feels like being there” pretty strongly. #lrnchat
9:21:02 pm MariaOD: How’s the Sparkle app for SL? #lrnchat
9:21:11 pm minutebio: RT @reward75: While I was on SL, I kept trying to gt org 2 use for onbrding –gr8t idea & chance to intro new emps to staff & mgt #lrnchat
9:21:13 pm Quinnovator: @Mary_a_Myers yes, but not necessarily cost-effective, unless distributed team, no? (set up costs vs VW develop) #lrnchat
9:21:18 pm marciamarcia: @Ginaschreck Did someone say Brady Bunch? Funny how we go there instead of Rubix cube or even tic tac toe. #lrnchat
9:21:23 pm chambo_online: Difficult to backchannel on SL and stay up with #lrnchat
9:21:28 pm nancyrubin: have students create a virtual field trip in a virtual environment – VFTs are a great tool for engaging students #lrnchat
9:21:34 pm JoelFoner: @jaycross did you find oovoo to be stable? i tried it a few weeks ago and had repeated buggy behavior. maybe fixed now. #lrnchat
9:21:40 pm KoreenOlbrish: i like virtual worlds for “practice,” especially of anything that requires more than one person #lrnchat
9:21:45 pm dwilkinsnh: @chambo_online Yeah, been thinking a lot about casual experiences like Flip, Wii, casual gaming, wonder if its a trend on its own #lrnchat
9:21:45 pm ChristyATucker: Research in Second Life presentation http://bit.ly/7aUJUe by @lyrlobo #lrnchat
9:21:51 pm gwoodill: @JaneBozarth I think augmented reality (AR) is a different experience from virtual worlds. AR is taking off with mobile. #lrnchat
9:22:11 pm kanor74: Cultural, historical, artistic, business, educational sims — something for every1 #lrnchat
9:22:21 pm marciamarcia: RT @KoreenOlbrish I like virtual worlds for “practice,” especially of anything that requires more than one person #lrnchat
9:22:40 pm nancyrubin: Virtual Worlds are great as long as the technology does not DETRACT from the experience – need one or more people just to guide #lrnchat
9:22:43 pm ThomasStone: me three! RT @marciamarcia: @dwilkinsnh I’m with you about the mii wii thing. #lrnchat
9:22:45 pm dwilkinsnh: @ThomasStone You said it better than me… ; ) #lrnchat
9:22:45 pm jaycross: RT @JoelFoner: @jaycross did you find oovoo to be stable? i tried it a few weeks ago and had repeated buggy ||| same here, Joel #lrnchat
9:22:55 pm hybridkris: @KoreenOlbrish I have a great example of that for C-130 cargo drops in a VW. A bit cheaper than doing the real thing. #lrnchat
9:22:58 pm JaneBozarth: @gwoodill Sorry did you mean that for me? #lrnchat
9:23:01 pm Ginaschreck: explainng value of learng in virtual envirnmnts is like trying to explain how great chocolate is to someone who has never had it #lrnchat
9:23:02 pm hjarche: RT @gwoodill: @JaneBozarth I think augmented reality (AR) is a different experience from virtual worlds. AR is taking off w/ mobile #lrnchat
9:23:03 pm JoelFoner: @gwoodill agreed – seems that AR fills a different need – projecting computer and web resources into the real world. #lrnchat
9:23:05 pm reward75: @minutebio It wld have been perfect since my org is national, onboard everyone at once and deliver a consistent message #lrnchat
9:23:07 pm Quinnovator: keep hearing this RT @JoelFoner: hard to explain, but once used to it, distributed team meeting in SL “feels like being there” #lrnchat
9:23:18 pm chambo_online: @dwilkinsnh Been trying to design a course with this in mind – intuitive course progression rather than written directions in LMS #lrnchat
9:23:29 pm urbie: @KoreenOlbrish #lrnchat i like it better than Skype for conference calls – that’s way underutilized Cybergrrl Oh [SL avie] has a cool show
9:23:31 pm nancyrubin: What about geocaching (or is that another discussion)? Being used for entertainment and for teaching geography, etc. #lrnchat
9:23:54 pm Quinnovator: @kkapp and others, any more science to the ephemeral ‘presence’ difference people feel? #lrnchat
9:24:04 pm tonnet: #lrnchat
9:24:20 pm chambo_online: Difference between AR and VW for the novices plz.?? #lrnchat
9:24:26 pm KoreenOlbrish: Ok, I’m gonna admit it…I don’t “get” Augmented Reality for learning. Yet. Might have to immerse myself in it… #lrnchat
9:24:28 pm Mary_a_Myers: @Quinnovator i say that in the context of dreaming. I have no idea what costs are for VWs. #lrnchat
9:24:48 pm gminks: @jaycross what is oovoo?? by that I mean – it looks like skype? #lrnchat
9:24:48 pm Ginaschreck: @marciamarcia I have always wanted to find “an ALICE” and so I hoped using oovoo would bring her into my life🙂 #lrnchat
9:25:07 pm reward75: @Quinnovator It’s the immersion that makes it feel like ur there, like a really good book or movie can do #lrnchat
9:25:08 pm hybridkris: @KoreenOlbrish Look for the BMW concept design on AR for training/support. #lrnchat
9:25:09 pm nancyrubin: I worked at university that had island in SL. Lots of issues getting students to the island, dressed properly, in time for events #lrnchat
9:25:21 pm SueSchnorr: I use oovoo often; have gd exp. sometime iffy if 5-6 people, usually fine. RT @JoelFoner @jaycross did u find oovoo to be stable? #lrnchat
9:25:01 pm kasey428: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Ok, Im gonna admit it…I dont “get” Augmented Reality for learning. Yet. Might have to immerse myself in it… #lrnchat
9:25:23 pm urbie: @teachernz #lrnchat – true; ease of use a serious barrier to entry; where’s roi in people skinning their knees trying to get it to work?
9:25:25 pm kanor74: I did an adventure race in SL w/VA educators. Had to find ans. to ?’s over 3 sims. #lrnchat
9:25:26 pm Quinnovator: @gwoodill yes AR is mobile, but is augmenting a world, just like VWs, so can be some conceptual similarity #lrnchat
9:25:30 pm Ginaschreck: @nancyrubin I love the ideas of mixing in different technologies and tools – make ANY learning event more fun #lrnchat
9:25:30 pm JoelFoner: @Quinnovator – just talked to someone in the field yesterday about that. Suspect it would be proven in MRI studies – similar to #lrnchat
9:25:46 pm marciamarcia: @KoreenOlbrish So is it that Augmented Reality isn’t social or that it’s not IYHO helping people learn? #lrnchat
9:25:51 pm jkmind: #lrnchat geocaching could be a good tool for certain content out of the classroom. Team building exercise?
9:25:53 pm allisunelearns: I’m excited abt the instant, on-the-spot recall of augmented reality. Play a video clip demoing what you need to do as doing it. #lrnchat
9:25:53 pm JoelFoner: @quinnovator suspension of disbelief in movies, or empathy in f2f settings. Visual cues that brain interprets either way. #lrnchat
9:26:04 pm MikeAbrams: recently we ran a teambuilding event in SL. very simply re-creation of a physical ropes course activity I did with @possibiliteams #lrnchat
9:26:09 pm Mary_a_Myers: VWs you are immersed but with Aug Rea your field of vision (mainly) is enhanced, or augmented. #lrnchat
9:26:12 pm joshcav: How do you evaluate a SL learning expereince? #lrnchat
9:26:17 pm Ginaschreck: Hide clues in virt world- on blogs in wikis – let them go and FIND in real event thru geolocat etc. MIX IT UP! #lrnchat
9:26:19 pm MikeAbrams: the results turned out very well. view online here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kM6WEh5iQk #lrnchat
9:26:27 pm gwoodill: @nancyrubin Geocaching is like Augmented Reality – extra info is added to a real environment. Isn’t everything virtual in the end? #lrnchat
9:26:33 pm kanor74: Over 600 univ./colleges have a presence in SL. #lrnchat
9:26:36 pm Quinnovator: @chambo_online AR=Augmented Reality: mobile devices adds to contextualized real world VW is augmented non-reality #lrnchat
9:26:41 pm JoelFoner: Thanks @SueSchnorr, had similar experience (Oovoo) stable with 2-3, bit shaky as add more. Assumedly that will improve. #lrnchat
9:26:50 pm nancyrubin: Virtual situations being used A LOT in military training and medical fields #lrnchat
9:27:03 pm KoreenOlbrish: @chambo_online AR: augmented overlay on real objects. VW: immersive “world,” where you are represented by an avatar #lrnchat
9:27:06 pm allisunelearns: With AR, can have the recipe steps in front of me as I’m doing the cooking. No more paper. #lrnchat
9:27:18 pm gwoodill: @JaneBozarth response to your question re AR and Virtual worlds. #lrnchat
9:27:24 pm JoelFoner: Eval SL learning exp should be same as eval other – learning objectives… achieved? @joshcav #lrnchat
9:27:24 pm kkapp: #lrnchat VW research resources http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGtzYiEOwEw&feature=player_embedded
9:27:25 pm JaneBozarth: Q3) how do u think learning design needs 2 adapt/change to utilize capabilities of virtual environments? Where 2 start? #lrnchat
9:27:29 pm dwilkinsnh: @chambo_online Yeah I think sometimes perfect & professional = inaccessible; whereas casual = human = accessible #lrnchat
9:27:30 pm Quinnovator: @reward75 I hear that, but I’d love a more psychological explanation (I can live with, but harder to ‘sell’) #lrnchat
9:27:38 pm kanor74: US Military has a presence in SL, too #lrnchat
9:27:39 pm J_Schulz: @KoreenOlbrish Based on what I’ve seen, I would think AR would make for good performance support. #lrnchat
9:27:42 pm nancyrubin: @gwoodill Seems to be picking up interest. I read an article in the newspaper just this week. Easy to do now with GPS in phones. #lrnchat
9:27:59 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Darn. Looks like I missed a ton of good stuff
9:28:02 pm allisunelearns: Oh, and when I think of AR, I start thinking really futuristic ala MIT http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2009/02/ted-digital-six/ #lrnchat
9:28:28 pm JoelFoner: @quinnovator, researching the immersion piece as part of a white paper / set of posts, hope to have more soon. #lrnchat
9:28:37 pm odguru: odguru RT@nancyrubin … issues getting students to the island, dressed properly, in time for events #lrnchat < Very life like. #lrnchat
9:28:41 pm shantarohse: Something to chew on… RT @gwoodill …. Isnt everything virtual in the end? #lrnchat
9:28:46 pm gwoodill: @chambo_online AR adds a layer to the real world, VWs are all unreal. #lrnchat
9:28:48 pm Quinnovator: Q3) how do u think learning design needs to adapt/change to utilize the capabilities of virtual environments? Where to start? #lrnchat
9:29:06 pm MariaOD: Been messing around installing SL!!! Missed #lrnchat! Next time I’ll be ready!!!
9:29:31 pm urbie: #lrnchat the thing about species switching is so right-on; talk about immersive and fun. i am researching avie customization n efficacy
9:29:41 pm jkmind: Q3 #lrnchat like all design, capabilities should be driven by the content. Not content being driven by technology. Tht’s why Im leary of sl
9:29:41 pm odguru: @jkmind In a manner of speaking. It can be practiced when the awareness of absence and understanding of principle is there. #lrnchat
9:29:46 pm kkapp: #lrnchat some advantages of 3D for learning http://karlkapp.blogspot.com/2009/02/advantages-of-3d-for-learning.html
9:29:55 pm kanor74: For me, SL is an extension of 1st Life. I work in SL everyday. #lrnchat
9:29:57 pm nancyrubin: Q3) Don’t forget basic ID principles when dealing with media – value-add is my litmus test – does media add value to learning #lrnchat
9:30:10 pm Quinnovator: Q3) needs to think more spatial and social, more engagement (but principles same as I always argue for) #lrnchat
9:30:12 pm JaneBozarth: Great now I’m being inundated w SL spammers #lrnchat
9:30:16 pm ChristyATucker: Q3) We have give up the idea of classrooms for learning in VW. Why sit in rows when you can fly? #lrnchat
9:30:18 pm JoelFoner: @quinnovator – do not start by assuming creation of a “classroom” in vw… “live there” for a bit, then think about how to leverage #lrnchat
9:30:23 pm Quinnovator: @JoelFoner keep me ‘post’ed #lrnchat
9:30:39 pm minutebio: RT @odguru: RT@nancyrubin .. issues getting studtns to island, dressed proper, in time for event –Sorry, stuck in low bandwidth #lrnchat
9:30:48 pm JaneBozarth: @jkmind Yep. It’s a potential variation on the “Let’s start a blog!!” syndrome #lrnchat
9:30:49 pm hybridkris: @KoreenOlbrish Here is the BMW AR concept video. http://tinyurl.com/c6c97u #lrnchat
9:30:50 pm KoreenOlbrish: ok, loving reading the transcript in tweetchat but listening to the discussion in SL. Wish I could get voice working! #lrnchat
9:30:52 pm gwoodill: Q3 – definitely virtual worlds should be experiential learning. Not fact, texts or lectures. #lrnchat
9:30:53 pm Ginaschreck: @Quinnovator I think that is greater challenge- students are ready – it is the teachers/trainers/ etc who have some work to do #lrnchat
9:31:08 pm Ginaschreck: RT @kkapp: #lrnchat some advantages of 3D for learning http://karlkapp.blogspot.com/2009/02/advantages-of-3d-for-learning.html
9:31:10 pm everyselearning: Has anyone got any examples of how this might be used in software training? #lrnchat
9:31:12 pm JoelFoner: Most edu builds start off with “build a lecture hall” – but – for instance can have students build their own env and tools #lrnchat
9:31:21 pm kkapp: #lrnchat teaching higher order learning in VWs http://karlkapp.blogspot.com/2008/10/teaching-higher-order-skills-in-virtual.html
9:31:21 pm kasey428: RT @kanor74: US Military has a presence in SL, too||I have seen some military demos. Interesting. #lrnchat
9:31:29 pm dennisschleiche: Imagine AR to see in a classroom the “by student” information, like timecode of their last handraise #lrnchat
9:31:31 pm MikeAbrams: also classroom can be a journey through SL, not just a place. many places many themes @JoelFoner @quinnovator #lrnchat
9:31:33 pm marciamarcia: We have give up the idea of classrooms for learning in vws. Why sit in rows when you can fly? -@ChristyATucker #lrnchat
9:31:34 pm JoelFoner: Assignments can include students building 3D scripted “answers” to problem set questions. #lrnchat
9:31:42 pm MariaOD: RT @kasey428: RT @kanor74: US Military has a presence in SL, too||I have seen some military demos. Interesting. #lrnchat
9:31:44 pm KoreenOlbrish: @hybridkris gracias🙂 #lrnchat
9:31:44 pm chambo_online: RT @GinaschreckI think that is greater challenge- students are ready – it is the teachers/trainers/ etc who have some work to do #lrnchat
9:31:49 pm minutebio: RT @Quinnovator: Q3 how do u think learning design needs 3 adapt/change 2 utilize capabilities of virtual environs? #lrnchat
9:31:54 pm Quinnovator: tho’ you can make close to real world RT @gwoodill: @chambo_online AR adds a layer to the real world, VWs are all unreal. #lrnchat
9:32:09 pm JaneBozarth: RT @ginaschreck I think that is greater challenge- students are ready – it is the teachers/trainers/ etc who have some work to do #lrnchat
9:32:18 pm joshcav: Q3: It’s any reality you want to create… I guess scenario based training would be better than a stand-up presentation. #lrnchat
9:32:29 pm Quinnovator: @JoelFoner well, yeah, I come from a ‘game’ design approach: make a meaningful experience, don’t replicate classroom #lrnchat
9:32:58 pm JaneBozarth: @gwoodill There has never been a technology invented that someone hasn’t figured out how to turn into a lecture podium #lrnchat
9:33:00 pm gwoodill: @everyselearning Yes, Microsoft uses SL for support for developers. #lrnchat
9:33:04 pm dwilkinsnh: Wonder if casual-ness should be a principle of VW learning? Not sure how you maintain formality; seems counter to the point. #lrnchat
9:33:06 pm RobRobertson: I think there is value in “standard” classrooms in SL for noobs. Let them have an environ they know while they adjust to VW #lrnchat
9:33:32 pm sahana2802: HATE IT when laptop crashes in the middle of #lrnchat.😦
9:33:32 pm jmarrapodi: RT @marciamarcia: We have give up the idea of classrooms for learning in vws. Why sit in rows when you can fly? -@ChristyATucker #lrnchat
9:33:35 pm chambo_online: VW=simulated environment, AR=add on to the real environment – have I got it? #lrnchat
9:33:39 pm Quinnovator: RT @Ginaschreck @Quinnovator think that is greater challenge-students are ready- it is teachers/trainers/ etc who have work to do #lrnchat
9:33:54 pm everyselearning: @gwoodill I’d love to see an example #lrnchat
9:34:11 pm KoreenOlbrish: against all of my design experience…by all means, start w a classroom, if that’s what ppl are comfy with. Just don’t stop there. #lrnchat
9:34:13 pm Ginaschreck: Q3- YES take learners on “Field Trips!” Make each event a learning ADVENTURE! #lrnchat
9:34:16 pm minutebio: RT @joshcav: Q3: Its any reality you want to create… I guess scenario based training –role-play between students. #lrnchat
9:34:19 pm chambo_online: RT @JaneBozarth: There has never been a technology invented that someone hasnt figured out how to turn into a lecture podium–>true #lrnchat
9:34:22 pm allisunelearns: RT @JaneBozarth There has never been a technology invented that someone hasnt figured out how to turn into a lecture podium #lrnchat
9:34:28 pm reward75: I agree, right method for the right learning RT @gwoodill: Q3 – virtual worlds = experiential learning. Not texts or lectures. #lrnchat
9:34:32 pm everyselearning: For instance, could you do a quiz in SL? #lrnchat
9:34:32 pm ThomasStone: Prediction: Once cisco/other Telepresence video takes off, then SL will not be considered much for mtgs or most formal learning #lrnchat
9:34:38 pm JoelFoner: Absolutely @robrobertson, our team starts with a “very normal room” or platform environment first, few distractions, then other… #lrnchat
9:34:59 pm Quinnovator: @dwilkinsnh don’t agree: saw great ‘formal’ example of insurance damage eval (contextual/3d) by insurance company #lrnchat
9:35:14 pm shantarohse: Familiarity offers comfort? RT @RobRobertson: I think there is value in “standard” classrooms in SL for noobs. #lrnchat
9:35:15 pm gwoodill: @everyselearning In our book – one of the case studies. #lrnchat
9:35:23 pm marciamarcia: @chambo_online That’s how I understand it too. VW=sim env, AR=add to real world. #lrnchat
9:35:24 pm JoelFoner: @koreenolbrish agreed as a stepping stone and to provide psychological transition, but huge $$ only on classrooms misses point. #lrnchat
9:35:29 pm urbie: @Ginaschreck #lrnchat handing off the customization [as much as possible] to the learner is definitely a thing to look at
9:35:30 pm ThomasStone: At that pt., SL/VW will still have a place = where safety of training env. or 3D environment is truly necessity = niche areas #lrnchat
9:35:32 pm nancyrubin: SL allows educators to take students to places they could never have gone before – including back in time to see historical places #lrnchat
9:35:35 pm Ginaschreck: @marciamarcia AMEN- Why build buildings with doors and walls for people to bump into in VWrlds- create a COOL learning environmt #lrnchat
9:35:35 pm jkunrein: RT @JaneBozarth: There has never been a technology invented that someone hasnt figured out how to turn into a lecture podium #lrnchat
9:35:39 pm Mary_a_Myers: um…where are you all again in SL? finally got my avatar and have logged in. #lrnchat
9:35:43 pm chambo_online: @KoreenOlbrish standard scaffolding – start simple and familiar, move to the complex and unfamiliar. #lrnchat
9:36:00 pm kkapp: #lrnchat think of a VW maturity model. Start with Classrooms (low) and end with actual work being done in the VW space (highest)
9:36:04 pm jmarrapodi: RT @kanor74: For me, SL is an extension of 1st Life. I work in SL everyday. {How?} #lrnchat
9:36:12 pm kanor74: @everyselearning Yes, all kinds to tools for quiz,test, creation of product. #lrnchat
9:36:16 pm nancyrubin: Example of army using immersive tech – http://minutebio.com/blog/2009/05/15/us-army-using-interactive-videos/ #lrnchat
9:36:30 pm Mary_a_Myers: so what is the cost of using something like SL for corp? #lrnchat
9:36:39 pm gwoodill: @everyselearning Better than a quiz – you can do a treasure hunt. Make assessment active! #lrnchat
9:36:41 pm jmarrapodi: RT @Ginaschreck: Q3- YES take learners on “Field Trips!” Make each event a learning ADVENTURE! [Second Life- love this idea!!!] #lrnchat
9:36:55 pm allisunelearns: @everyselearning You can take a Moodle quiz in SL with this integration http://slisweb.sjsu.edu/sl/index.php/Sloodle_Quiz_Chair #lrnchat
9:36:55 pm ThomasStone: I say this b/c most people in biz contexts will much prefer for mtg and most learning to interact with the real people, not avatars #lrnchat
9:37:05 pm kanor74: @jmarrapodi I teach grad students; run office for RL company. Meet clients, etc. #lrnchat
9:37:07 pm marciamarcia: Standard scaffolding: start simple and familiar, move to the complex and unfamiliar. -@chambo_online #lrnchat
9:37:28 pm jmarrapodi: RT @JaneBozarth: There has never been a technology invented that someone hasnt figured out how to turn into a lecture podium [ouch] #lrnchat
9:37:30 pm urbie: @shantarohse #lrnchat what makes you think that? it’s hard enough to engage; if they’re home it gets harder still
9:37:32 pm joshcav: @ThomasStone You mean when Telepresence becomes affordable to everyone..? #lrnchat
9:37:32 pm ThomasStone: And Cisco Telepresence is really powerful, and will only get better. (No, I don’t work for cisco. LOL) #lrnchat
9:37:34 pm nancyrubin: Easy to use avatar site – http://oddcast.com/ #lrnchat
9:37:39 pm kasey428: I would like go to a VW and actually learn rather than be lost. I need a VW buddy to hold my virtual hand & guide. #lrnchat
9:37:41 pm Quinnovator: VWs provide seamless environ to embed formal but scaffold informal as well #lrnchat
9:37:47 pm dwilkinsnh: @Quinnovator Fair enough; that’s one of my favorite use cases as well. Still I wonder if it feels as formal as F2F? #lrnchat
9:37:53 pm gwoodill: @ThomasStone Agreed. I’d prefer HD setup like Halo any day. Still expensive. #lrnchat
9:37:59 pm JaneBozarth: @jmarrapodi I think we should have @gminks’s graduation party in SL #lrnchat
9:38:10 pm nancyrubin: Have teachers build there own classrooms in SL – have actually seen this done as a lesson for ed students #lrnchat
9:38:13 pm sahana2802: RT @Quinnovator VWs provide seamless environ to embed formal but scaffold informal as well #lrnchat
9:38:20 pm kanor74: @kasey428 Friend me and I’ll help you. #lrnchat
9:38:27 pm ThomasStone: a good use! RT @nancyrubin: SL allows educators to take students to places they could never have gone before – inc back in time #lrnchat
9:38:27 pm JaneBozarth: WHY do a quiz? Ever? #lrnchat
9:38:36 pm dennisschleiche: But isn’t the simple and familiar for today’s learners actual VW? #lrnchat
9:38:37 pm nancyrubin: RT @JaneBozarth: @jmarrapodi I think we should have @gminkss graduation party in SL #lrnchat
9:38:37 pm Quinnovator: @kkapp can’t we skip the $%^&* classroom? Get them there, lead on a journey (cf @Ginaschreck), *engage* them! #lrnchat
9:38:38 pm jkmind: #lrnchat I dont see military using sl for sensitive trning though but would some of that trning less $ to build
9:38:39 pm gminks: @kasey428 that is my prob w VWs – having to manage the tech side so it doesn’t turn into a learner obstacle #lrnchat
9:38:44 pm chambo_online: @kasey428 I think that is how most newbies feel. Frustration could inhibit learning #lrnchat
9:38:49 pm Ginaschreck: Q3- If students find regular classroom lecture blah blah blah boring -doing that in virtual envir is still BORING! #lrnchat
9:38:57 pm JoelFoner: Also architects use SL for prototyping, let clients adjust things, try ideas. #lrnchat
9:38:58 pm gminks: screw that! I want IRL drinks!!🙂 RT @JaneBozarth: @jmarrapodi I think we should have @gminkss graduation party in SL #lrnchat
9:39:23 pm dwilkinsnh: @ThomasStone Agree completely. That’s why Clark’s reference of insurance adjusting is key — that’s the use case, not meetings #lrnchat
9:39:23 pm urbie: #lrnchat the public universities in texas are quite far along in implementing SL in higher-ed
9:39:26 pm jkmind: #lrnchat @JaneBozarth don’t call it a quiz. but there should be somekind of asesmnt
9:39:30 pm allisunelearns: @JaneBozarth @gminks and I can walk together with our special summa cum laude robes! #lrnchat
9:39:40 pm gminks: @Mary_a_Myers we had issues w firewall last time I looked into SL #lrnchat
9:39:42 pm ThomasStone: yes, exactly. it will happen. RT @joshcav: @ThomasStone You mean when Telepresence becomes affordable to everyone..? #lrnchat
9:39:51 pm kasey428: @kanor74 I did. #lrnchat
9:39:53 pm dwilkinsnh: RT @ThomasStone: SL/VW will still have a place = where safety of training env. or 3D environment is truly necessity = niche areas #lrnchat
9:40:10 pm JaneBozarth: @Ginaschreck Srsly. “Let’s make them go into SL, then they won’t notice we’re reading bulleted PPT slides to them. ” ? #lrnchat
9:40:31 pm KoreenOlbrish: one thing that holds true against all social media, including virtual worlds…i’ve never understood virtual drinks🙂 #lrnchat
9:40:39 pm Ginaschreck: Q3- @chambo_online REemember that same feeling applies when we are new to school or job- it just takes a gentle guiding hand to hlp #lrnchat
9:40:43 pm J_Schulz: @gwoodill I never thought I would see Halo and lrnchat used in the same tweet. Awesome! #lrnchat
9:40:53 pm JoelFoner: Something @GinaSchreck just said here… many (most?) kids are fast adapters to SL, often it’s “us” who have the big challenge. #lrnchat
9:40:56 pm nancyrubin: To develop virtual environments (in house) is expensive – requires lots of expertise that is often expensive talent #lrnchat
9:41:10 pm urbie: @KoreenOlbrish #lrnchat virtual comfort zone?
9:41:13 pm kkapp: @Quinnovator #lrnchat links how behavior in SL like RL http://karlkapp.blogspot.com/2009/05/you-are-your-avatar-your-avatar-is-you.html
9:41:29 pm MikeAbrams: *slurps his cocoa at @KoreenOlbrish and sticks out his tongue #lrnchat
9:41:35 pm kanor74: @kasey428 Oh, who are you in SL? #lrnchat
9:41:40 pm Quinnovator: @dwilkinsnh ah, back to the ephemeral ‘feeling’. And agree, but continuum (can be very engaged ‘classroom, just infrequent😮 ) #lrnchat
9:41:40 pm ThomasStone: @dwilkinsnh exactly. Ins. adjusting, hotel staff training, health topics where safety an issue, nuclear-related stuff. LOL #lrnchat
9:41:59 pm kasey428: @gminks Technology should nvr interfere w/learning. Always enable learning & create space where people want to learn. #lrnchat
9:42:01 pm kkapp: @KoreenOlbrish #lrnchat Drinks are universal anywhere:) in RL or VW
9:42:08 pm JoelFoner: Re “safety” issue in VW’s – gone to a mall lately? Checked out what kids can get to with clicks on the web? *ready for firestorm* #lrnchat
9:42:13 pm chambo_online: @JoelFoner “kids” only make up a portion of online trainees/students. Many are older – less WoW player-types #lrnchat
9:42:20 pm joshcav: How do office politics effect virtual exchanges in SecondLife??? Also, would legal need to document these sessions. #lrnchat
9:42:25 pm nancyrubin: Do I see a lrnchat in SL in the near future? #lrnchat
9:42:27 pm MikeAbrams: brb. xmas carolers at my door in RL #lrnchat
9:43:09 pm marciamarcia: @jkmind Have started offering alt to quiz/assmnt thinking, bowling ally gutter analogy. Sometimes there are bounds. #lrnchat
9:43:09 pm kasey428: @kanor74 Bebe Audion #lrnchat
9:43:18 pm Quinnovator: RT @kkapp: @Quinnovator #lrnchat behavior in SL like RL http://bit.ly/4JOZqb
9:43:23 pm JoelFoner: @chambo_online – agreed not all, but experience with the concept of characters and vw’s is moving up the age curve. #lrnchat
9:43:29 pm KoreenOlbrish: @joshcav yes, office politics affect. but does legal document the RL water cooler? #lrnchat
9:43:31 pm kanor74: @MikeAbrams🙂 #lrnchat
9:43:37 pm sahana2802: RT @kkapp @Quinnovator #lrnchat links how behavior in SL like RL: http://tiny.cc/a8QTZ
9:43:39 pm MariaOD: RT @nancyrubin: Do I see a lrnchat in SL in the near future? <vote! #lrnchat
9:43:42 pm ThomasStone: Longterm, for mtgs / most learning, SL fails my “Star Trek” test: Picard or Janeway wouldn’t use it over high-end video conf. #lrnchat
9:43:43 pm teachernz: @JoelFoner yeah, but virtual harm is so much more dangerouss😉 #lrnchat
9:43:51 pm SueSchnorr: RT kasey428 @gminks Technology should nvr interfere w/learning. Always enable learning & create space where people want to learn. #lrnchat
9:44:02 pm urbie: @nancyrubin #lrnchat cool idea.. vw lrnchat
9:44:02 pm Ginaschreck: @nancyrubin I am rubbing the crystal ball right now and I see a SEcondLife #lrnchat in our future !
9:44:03 pm Quinnovator: @nancyrubin would rather see a #lrnchat SL tour than trying to run #lrnchat in SL (if you know what I mean)
9:44:15 pm jkunrein: how about a VW that’s easier to use?🙂 RT @nancyrubin: Do I see a lrnchat in SL in the near future? #lrnchat
9:44:24 pm chambo_online: @JoelFoner Agreed – I do have a mii😉 #lrnchat
9:44:27 pm allisunelearns: @chambo_online That would depend on where you are…52% of Iranians under 20. #lrnchat
9:44:31 pm nancyrubin: @ThomasStone Beam me up! #lrnchat
9:44:48 pm sahana2802: RT @kkapp @Quinnovator #lrnchat links how behavior in SL like RL http://tiny.cc/amkWg
9:44:48 pm nancyrubin: @Quinnovator Actually I do, first hand.🙂 #lrnchat
9:45:14 pm Mary_a_Myers: if #lrnchat moves to SL i will need some help getting there. haven’t moved past getting avatar in the last half an hour. I blame IE #lrnchat
9:45:18 pm Quinnovator: also framework for engaged learning! RT @simbeckhampson: @Quinnovator Train trainer in SL, adoption, access and motivation are key #lrnchat
9:45:27 pm reward75: In SL now (Reine Aeon) #lrnchat
9:45:34 pm ThomasStone: Btw, has Gartner ever issued an amended prediction regarding uptake in VW? Their prediction a few years ago was *insane*. #lrnchat
9:45:39 pm kkapp: @jkunrein I;ll volunteer ProtoSphere demo space in near future as a location #lrnchat (then I’ll verify with Ron)
9:46:04 pm dwilkinsnh: RT @nancyrubin: SL allows educators to take students to places they could never have gone before – including back in time #lrnchat
9:46:04 pm chambo_online: @allisunelearns depends on industry and organization as well – fastest growing group on Fbook=Women 30-55 #lrnchat
9:46:12 pm ThomasStone: agreed! RT @Quinnovator: @nancyrubin would rather see a #lrnchat SL tour than trying to run #lrnchat in SL (if you know what I mean)
9:46:33 pm nancyrubin: Went to conference recently online – think some of you were there – it was a pseudo SL environment – anyone know what it was? #lrnchat
9:46:52 pm kkapp: @ThomasStone That’s how they get press. Google VW Hype cycle and see some interesting results #lrnchat
9:46:56 pm dwilkinsnh: @ThomasStone As much as I respect Gartner and others, they are often wrong — remember LCMS? Another swing and a miss…. #lrnchat
9:47:04 pm odguru: @ThomasStone But old Wil Riker spent plenty of time on holodeck 9!! #lrnchat
9:47:11 pm kasey428: tweet posts not showing up in Tweetchat…again #lrnchat
9:47:14 pm JoelFoner: If you’d like a chance to experience “for real”, I run a wkly inworld global disc group – http://joelfoner.com/we-are-the-network/ #lrnchat
9:47:16 pm Quinnovator: @Mary_a_Myers yes, we’ll want folks to get avatars beforehand, @Ginaschreck had a useful link I think #lrnchat
9:47:21 pm nancyrubin: @chambo_online My people🙂 #lrnchat
9:47:28 pm marciamarcia: @ThomasStone I’ve been seeking the analyst reports too. Welcome any you find. I’ll share what I find. #lrnchat
9:47:28 pm dennisschleiche: @ThomasStone Longterm, 4mtgs/most learning,SL fails my”Star Trek”test:Picard wouldn’t use it over high-end video conf. #lrnchat
9:47:34 pm shantarohse: @Mary_a_Myers I blame FF. I am getting an error message when I click teleport now. #lrnchat
9:47:43 pm jkmind: #lrnchat we should have demo sessions before we run lrnchat session in sl. I’d need help
9:48:13 pm kkapp: #lrnchat here is list of SL alternatives http://karlkapp.blogspot.com/2009/05/you-are-your-avatar-your-avatar-is-you.html
9:48:39 pm JaneBozarth: @Mary_a_Myers Remember that when you start thinking of using this w/ your workers. Need orientation/set up time + clear purpose #lrnchat
9:48:59 pm MikeAbrams: RT @kkapp: virtual world alternatives http://karlkapp.blogspot.com/2009/05/you-are-your-avatar-your-avatar-is-you.html #lrnchat
9:49:11 pm minutebio: RT @dwilkinsnh: RT @nancyrubin: SL allws eductrs 2 take students back in time /Gr8t way to lrn History. We could meet Julius Caesar #lrnchat
9:49:14 pm chambo_online: @dennisschleiche @ThomasStone Picard: “On screen!” #lrnchat
9:49:15 pm Mary_a_Myers: @shantarohse i had both browsers trying …had to reboot! #lrnchat
9:49:20 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @JaneBozarth Remember that when you start thinking of using this w/ your workers. Need orientation/set up time + clear purpose #lrnchat
9:49:25 pm kkapp: #lrnchat oops, no here is the link http://karlkapp.blogspot.com/2009/11/alternatives-to-second-life-continued.html
9:49:34 pm ThomasStone: @dwilkinsnh The thing is, many in L&D gobbled up the Gartner insanity, quoting in presos as if had a chance of becoming true. #lrnchat
9:49:54 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @kkapp: virtual world alternatives http://karlkapp.blogspot.com/2009/05/you-are-your-avatar-your-avatar-is-you.html #lrnchat
9:49:55 pm kkapp: @MikeAbrams #lrnchat, wrong lnk use this http://karlkapp.blogspot.com/2009/11/alternatives-to-second-life-continued.html
9:50:17 pm MikeAbrams: http://bit.ly/6QET7h RT @ErickTaft: @MikeAbrams How do I get to where you are at in SL ? #lrnchat
9:50:20 pm nancyrubin: First hand experience – not easy to develop – need to media department devoted to scenarios and VW development (and good writers!) #lrnchat
9:50:22 pm MariaOD: Cold must be coming down with something right in time for the weekend. Nite #lrnchat! #lrnchat
9:50:23 pm Mary_a_Myers: @JaneBozarth definitely #lrnchat
9:50:24 pm ThomasStone: @odguru yeah, but holodeck is *completely* different from SL. #lrnchat
9:50:36 pm urbie: @KoreenOlbrish #lrnchat and interactivity: the scripting and interpersonal kinds, too
9:50:51 pm gwoodill: What is a virtual world? A good book? See – Narrative as Virtual Reality – 2001 by M. Ryan. #lrnchat
9:50:52 pm kanor74: I visited 1870’s NM and AZ a few weeks ago! Also Sistine Chapel on Vassar Is. Renaissance period events. #lrnchat
9:51:03 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links welcome. What can we help you with? #lrnchat
9:51:08 pm chambo_online: What about a hybrid VW – simpler simulation/shorter learning curve – used for specific task, but not entire training? #lrnchat
9:51:19 pm Ginaschreck: If you want to setup avatar & prep B4 hand heres starting point🙂 It should drop you into my safe campus🙂 #lrnchat http://bit.ly/6aINpd
9:51:48 pm jkunrein: RT @kkapp: #lrnchat virtual worlds other than sl: http://karlkapp.blogspot.com/2009/11/alternatives-to-second-life-continued.html #lrnchat
9:51:54 pm kasey428: @kanor74 friend me #lrnchat
9:52:02 pm JoelFoner: @nancyrubin agreed big build can be complex. Funny though how much value ppl can get from simple environment. Bld over time. #lrnchat
9:52:10 pm Mary_a_Myers: @ThomasStone i place the holodeck onside with AR. but your entire world is augmented…and you are completely immersed. can’t wait! #lrnchat
9:52:16 pm nancyrubin: @chambo_online Very effective. You can film short scenarios with mult chars in SL and show to learners – then they interact with it #lrnchat
9:52:29 pm lrnchat: If you’re on #lrnchat tonight & your co. does something in VW space or related, prod to sell, serv to offer, would you mention in close? Thx
9:52:29 pm taterunino: RT: @JoelFoner: Re “safety” issue in VW’s – gone to a mall lately? Checked out what kids can get to with clicks on the web? #lrnchat
9:52:33 pm ThomasStone: Like Clark suggested, I predict that we’ll get less of the regular value from #lrnchat from holding it in SL rather than Twitter.
9:52:38 pm Quinnovator: @ThomasStone reckon there is a real value proposition in VWs, however: http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=1379 #lrnchat
9:52:44 pm kkapp: #lrnchat 3 Not so obvious things about virtual worlds http://karlkapp.blogspot.com/2009/12/three-not-so-obvious-obvious-things.html
9:52:45 pm Ginaschreck: @BeyondtheBrink Girlfriend- we are at my place!🙂 #lrnchat
9:52:59 pm KoreenOlbrish: Koreen Olbrish, Nina Sommerfleck, virtually multitasking and really pleased by the SL/lrnchat experiment today #lrnchat
9:53:02 pm kanor74: @kasey428 I sent you a friend offer in SL..you will need to accept. #lrnchat
9:53:03 pm jkmind: #lrnchat jesse in very cold central nj. I need concrete resources for designing simulations. Particularly for the us navy
9:53:06 pm JaneBozarth: RDU, augmented bureaucrat, author, trainer, Dr. of Learnin’ Stuff (I GOT a robe, @gminks!) http://bozarthzone.blogspot.com #lrnchat
9:53:07 pm Quinnovator: already?!? RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links welcome. What can we help you with? #lrnchat
9:53:07 pm kasey428: Outta here. Much to do. Taking next 2 weeks off! Happy Holidays to all. #lrnchat
9:53:13 pm ThomasStone: There could be *other values* obtained — inc. introducing more of us to SL/VW — but core #lrnchat values would be diminished I suspect.
9:53:28 pm odguru: Christy- Guelph Canada. Got to the SL site but have too much media running. Heard something about sending Shamwows.#lrnchat. Thanks all.
9:53:57 pm britz: RT @gwoodill: Q3 – definitely virtual worlds should be experiential learning. Not fact, texts or lectures. #lrnchat
9:54:17 pm nancyrubin: Greetings from South Florida. Thanks for the great conversation – as always – favorite nite of the week! #lrnchat
9:54:26 pm ThomasStone: @Mary_a_Myers Alas, as much of a Star Trek fan as I am, I think the laws of physics make a real “holodeck” highly unlikely. #lrnchat
9:54:26 pm media1der: made it just in time to wish y’all happiest holidays! Sorry I missed the good stuff. #lrnchat
9:54:29 pm RobRobertson: Night all and robrob McCoy enjoyed hanging out in SL #lrnchat
9:54:36 pm JaneBozarth: @kasey428 Enjoy the time off! #lrnchat
9:54:36 pm jkunrein: qwrap – judy unrein, elearning instructional designer and off-the-wagon blogger in kansas city http://www.onehundredfortywords.com #lrnchat
9:54:46 pm gwoodill: Gary Woodill, Brandon Hall analyst, – new book on VWs with @Alex_Heiphetz. http://tinyurl.com/yzczpua #lrnchat
9:54:49 pm hybridkris: Qwrap Kris Rockwell, Hybrid Learning Systems. ARGs and Mobile Learning. #lrnchat
9:54:54 pm lrnchat: We are off for the next TWO weeks. If you want to drop in and tag with #lrnchat, pls do. Next year in learning!
9:54:57 pm dennisschleiche: Dennis Schleicher, business & industrial anthropologist http://tibetantailor.com/ #lrnchat
9:54:58 pm chambo_online: Lisa Chamberlin – looking for simple game theory to help design comm college composition course #lrnchat
9:55:13 pm ThomasStone: part of my point/warning here! RT @reward75: Wow, I thought keeping up with lrnchat was tough enough, try lrnchat and SL, sheesh #lrnchat
9:55:18 pm everyselearning: Gotta go eat supper. Night all! #lrnchat
9:55:20 pm kasey428: @kanor74 OK I logged in #lrnchat
9:55:22 pm britz: RT @moehlert: #lrnchat Darn. Looks like I missed a ton of good stuff. Me too – Xmas present wrapping night. Duty called.
9:55:27 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman, e-Learning Designer, creator of very silly, but memorable, courses. Oh, I’m in Baltimore, Hon. #lrnchat
9:55:30 pm jkmind: RT @britz: RT @gwoodill: Q3 – definitely virtual worlds should be experiential learning. Not fact, texts or lectures. #lrnchat
9:55:31 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Wow. Sorry to have missed it all. I am ChuckNoris Mission in 2L. Mark Oehlert IRL – virtual worlds, Social Media for Learning
9:55:42 pm everyselearning: Yum Osso Bucco! #lrnchat
9:55:55 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, learn tech design consultant; deeply into learning, fascinated with shiny toys; look to put together for real outcomes #lrnchat
9:55:57 pm Mary_a_Myers: Mary Myers, from Kingston, working and learning , learning and working. thanks for the #lrnchat
9:56:03 pm urbie: #lrnchat urbie delgado, isd n learner; urbie planer in SL
9:56:10 pm jmarrapodi: Jean Marrapodi, Providence, RI. Learning Architect working at the intersection of high tech and low literacy. #lrnchat
9:56:11 pm kkapp: #lrnchat Bye from cold PA, thxs for gr8 discussion, VWs are a great place to explore and like e-learning was 10 yrs ago, VW are there today
9:56:13 pm kanor74: Great chat…. hope you all give SL a try! Happy Holidays to everyone!! G’nite #lrnchat
9:56:19 pm Mary_a_Myers: @ThomasStone sigh, physics. #lrnchat
9:56:20 pm Ginaschreck: @JaneBozarth HA! in SL folks don’t know you are reading 7 pt font…as long as you don’t post them as slides in world! #lrnchat
9:56:26 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: We are off for the next TWO weeks. If you want to drop in and tag with #lrnchat, pls do. Next year in learning!
9:56:36 pm JaneBozarth: @chambo_online You came to the right place @quinnovator and @kkapp are all about games #lrnchat
9:56:43 pm lrnchat: Remember to pls contact @marciamarcia if you’re not already on the http://sn.im/lrnchat-list 127 already there. #lrnchat
9:56:43 pm reward75: @ThomasStone Actually, I meant at the same time, never been much of a multitasker🙂 #lrnchat
9:56:45 pm MikeAbrams: Goodnight all. signing out of the tweetchat now. #lrnchat
9:56:48 pm sahana2802: Sahana, Instructional Designer and learner, love #lrnchat, novice blogger but love that too, believer of collaborative lrng & meaning making
9:56:57 pm everyselearning: Thanks to all for the first look at SL #lrnchat
9:57:17 pm ThomasStone: @Quinnovator agreed, there are many niche uses that will win out for L&D in SL/VW. I’ve been giving many such tonight. #lrnchat
9:57:18 pm JoelFoner: Would you guys be interested in We Are The Network topic announces in the #lrnchat group? (don’t want to be spammy – asking) #lrnchat
9:57:20 pm kkapp: #lrnchat I learned Tweeting and being in a VW really difficult
9:57:35 pm JaneBozarth: Rumor of big snow here in NC tomorrow, first in years. And brother does not know I have his childhood sled… #lrnchat
9:57:42 pm reward75: Regina Ward, NYC, jack of all things elearning and learning more🙂 #lrnchat
9:57:44 pm KoreenOlbrish: happy holidays and best wishes for 2010! #lrnchat
9:57:50 pm Abhinava: Awww… this was the last #lrnchat for the year?!?😦 next year then…! new year… new Ideas…🙂
9:57:51 pm ChristyATucker: Christy Tucker, instructional designer near Raleigh, NC, just transitioned from higher ed to corp e-learning #lrnchat
9:57:56 pm shantarohse: Shanta Rohse aka India Vale, immersed in learning in Ottawa in RL #lrnchat
9:57:58 pm everyselearning: @allisunelearns thanks for that tip about moodle! #lrnchat
9:58:03 pm dwilkinsnh: David Wilkins, Exec Director of Product Marketing at Learn.com. Happy Holidays everyone! #lrnchat
9:58:12 pm allisunelearns: Allisun in Arcata, eLearning enthusiast, grad student & eLearning developer for Moodlerooms links on VW here http://bit.ly/6GQQH8 #lrnchat
9:58:18 pm kellygarber: Good night all, enjoy! And Cricket Crumb enjoyed the SL spot also. #lrnchat
9:58:19 pm joshcav: <—- Captivate expert. Lodestone offers classes on Adobe tools, Powerpoint, Camtasia, Moodle. Happy Holidays! http://bit.ly/6Pt9CH #lrnchat
9:58:34 pm everyselearning: @gwoodill OK give us the book name #lrnchat
9:58:58 pm JaneBozarth: @marciamarcia You guys are used to that. We are paralyzed when the first 6 flakes hit the ground. #lrnchat
9:59:02 pm allisunelearns: I have 15 Second Life in education related bookmarks here http://delicious.com/allisun/secondlife #lrnchat
9:59:07 pm planetrussell: I missed most of #lrnchat goodness this evening, too, @moehlert. But, ChuckNoris Mission in 2L = #awesomesauce (I’m Planeteer Steampunk.)
9:59:23 pm everyselearning: Nite all! #lrnchat
9:59:23 pm sahana2802: Playing for real in a virtual world: http://tiny.cc/zUD0e #lrnchat
9:59:39 pm ThomasStone: Thomas Stone, from Element K in Rochester, NY, signing off of #lrnchat this evening. Great conversation everyone!
9:59:44 pm JaneBozarth: Again: Both @gwoodill and @kkapp have new books out on related topics. Check them out! Buy extras as gifts! #lrnchat
9:59:55 pm marciamarcia: Marcia Conner, Sr Enterprise Strategist for Pistachio Consulting, writing book on SoMe for learning. Seeking lotso examples. @ me! #lrnchat
10:00:29 pm J_Schulz: Night all – this was an interesting experiment. #lrnchat
10:00:33 pm gwoodill: @everyselearning Training and Collaboration with Virtual Worlds. McGraw-Hill. Out in Jan. #lrnchat
10:00:47 pm Mary_a_Myers: @allisunelearns Thanks Allisun! #lrnchat
10:00:53 pm sahana2802: Happy holidays everyone. Have a wonderful time and a great 2010! #lrnchat
10:01:01 pm Abhinava: #lrnchat Abhinava from Bangalore, India – Problem Solver by being, ID by Profession and Norm Questioner by interest.🙂 Good Night/Day all
10:02:09 pm reward75: Happy Holidays to you all. “See” you next year!! #lrnchat
10:02:15 pm lrnchat: Thank you for joining us on #lrnchat. Pls remember to submit Qs & theme ideas for upcoming chats at http://sn.im/lrnchat

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