Transcript 03 Dec 2009

8:30:00 pm roninchef: Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. It’s time for #lrnchat
8:30:05 pm lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been? Q0 warm up after the rules.
8:30:22 pm lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1) Introduce yourself. (We do this again at the end). Location? Focus? Fave topics?
8:30:30 pm Abhinava: To all: Will be #lrnchat -ing please forgive possible flood of tweets… #lrnchat
8:30:31 pm sahana2802: Waiting for #lrnchat to start and drinking DD’s vanilla coffee, gift of New England from @jmarrapodi…🙂
8:30:36 pm LearningPutty: Well said! RT @Quinnovator: warning, about to flood the tweetstream with #lrnchat for the next 1.5 hours; ignore or, better yet, join in!
8:30:56 pm Quinnovator: and please don’t forget the Official #lrnchat Drinking Game ™: http://lrnchatdrinkinggame.wikispaces.com/
8:31:18 pm sahana2802: RT @Quinnovator warning, about to flood the tweetstream with #lrnchat for the next 1.5 hours; ignore or, better yet, join in!
8:31:24 pm lrnchat: 2) [try to] stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 20 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
8:31:48 pm RobRobertson: Folks pardon the flurry of tweets or better yet… join us via TweetChat at: http://tweetchat.com/room/lrnchat #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:32:00 pm scareytweets: Who is using tweetchat for tonite’s #lrnchat? This is the first time I’ve been able to attend.
8:32:01 pm mpetersell: Mike from Connecticut; Focused on Management De;velopment and Instructional Design; Favorite topic – informal learning; Hi all! #lrnchat
8:32:17 pm gminks: RT @Quinnovator: warning, about to flood the tweetstream with #lrnchat for the next 1.5 hours; ignore or, better yet, join in! #lrnchat
8:32:19 pm JaneBozarth: Heuristic! Drink! #lrnchat
8:32:26 pm gminks: hey everybody!!! #lrnchat
8:32:27 pm lrnchat: 3) When writing, complete thoughts help followers outside chat learn from you. 4) on #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm, welcome tho.
8:32:29 pm busynessgirl: RT @Quinnovator warning, about to flood the tweetstream with #lrnchat for the next 1.5 hours; ignore or, better yet, join in! #lrnchat
8:32:34 pm elatedca: Hope How Community Influences Learning can incorporate a Green component; have an example to share #lrnchat
8:32:46 pm Abhinava: HaHa…RT @Quinnovator: and please dont forget the Official #lrnchat Drinking Game ™: http://lrnchatdrinkinggame.wikispaces.com/ #lrnchat
8:32:59 pm JaneBozarth: Hi from RDU, NC. Trainer. Designer. Writer. Doctor. Pompatus of Love. #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:33:11 pm tgrevatt: Yay, home in time to catch up with folks on #lrnchat It’s been a while, greetings from Treena in Ottawa #lrnchat
8:33:11 pm klowey22: John near Washington DC, knowledge management #lrnchat
8:33:21 pm lrnchat: 5) Periodically RT questions so others outside #lrnchat know what you’re talking about so they can chime in.
8:33:23 pm gwoodill: Gary Woodill from Brandon Hall Research, coming to you from Canada. #lrnchat
8:33:34 pm rmyardley: Russell Yardley Melbourne (Oz) Expert Communities coaching mentoring #lrnchat
8:33:41 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, Walnut Creek CA, learning experience design instigator extraordinaire, learnlets.com blogger, consultant-for-hire #lrnchat
8:33:43 pm klowey22: hi everybody! #lrnchat
8:33:50 pm triciaallen: warning, about to possibly flood the tweetstream with #lrnchat. Please forgive or join in http://tweetchat.com/room/lrnchat
8:33:56 pm azmichelle: Hi everyone. I’m a community college librarian from AZ. #lrnchat
8:33:58 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, North Texas, Performance Technologist, etc. #lrnchat
8:34:00 pm JaneBozarth: @tgrevatt Hi, good to have you back! #lrnchat
8:34:07 pm sillym0nkey: SillyMonkey in ATL – ready to chat! #lrnchat
8:34:09 pm LearningPutty: Renee Robbins, http://www.learningputty.com, Chicago, IL #lrnchat
8:34:17 pm lrnchat: 6) Remember to include the #lrnchat in all posts. http://tweetchat.com, http://tweetgrid.com & http://twubs.com/lrnchat work well.
8:34:27 pm Quinnovator: and a cheery welcome back after US Thanksgiving to old and new #lrnchat participants!
8:34:27 pm busynessgirl: Math prof in Michigan, ed tech geek, trying to hack higher education a little bit at a time. #lrnchat
8:34:30 pm gminks: Gina from outside balmy Boston, community manager @ EMC, one class away from finishing fall semester in the IS grad program @ FSU #lrnchat
8:34:33 pm JaneBozarth: @sillym0nkey Glad you came back! #lrnchat
8:34:34 pm jsuzcampos: Hello from New Hampshire. Designer! Professor. Small Business Owner. Learning enthusiast. Mother of the Year. #lrnchat
8:34:41 pm scareytweets: Greetins from Houston, Tx. Shawn Carey here #lrnchat
8:34:53 pm reward75: Regina, NYC, jack of all things learning #lrnchat
8:34:53 pm RobRobertson: Hello from a very chilly Dallas! #lrnchat
8:34:54 pm oxala75: craig wiggins, elearning jockey working outside of Washington DC. #lrnchat
8:34:55 pm jmarrapodi: Jean Marrapodi, Providence, RI working at the intersection of high tech, low literacy and higher ed. Instructional Designer, et al. #lrnchat
8:35:09 pm sahana2802: Sahana from Pune, India. Instructional Designer with a passion for learning, social media and all things training. Forgot #lrnchat
8:35:11 pm kellygarber: Kelly Garber, Florida, ISD for hire #lrnchat
8:35:16 pm jmarrapodi: @jsuzcampos Love the mother of the year part! #lrnchat
8:35:20 pm atsc: Can someone remind me the site to aggregate #lrnchat conference session postings? Thanks…
8:35:44 pm Quinnovator: @Abhinava I’ve got my Trader Joe’s Vintage Ale to hand #lrnchat
8:35:51 pm bobbivernon: Bobbi Vernon, instructional design & computer-based testing, Charlottesville, VA. Good evening all! #lrnchat
8:35:53 pm jadekaz: @oxala75 “elearning jockey” – I likes! I’m stealing that🙂 #lrnchat
8:35:54 pm jmarrapodi: @RobRobertson It was in the 60’s in Providence. A veritable heat wave for December. #lrnchat
8:35:56 pm lrnchat: 7) 10 min before end, tell us if you need anything from the other #lrnchat participants. Time to reintroduce yourself, too. Links welcome.
8:35:56 pm ajeanne: Hello from San Jose, CA. Jeanne Farrington here… taking a break from writing recommendations for designers #lrnchat
8:35:57 pm JaneBozarth: I forgot I am ruler of Planet Jane and keep celebrities alive on Thursdays. #lrnchat
8:36:02 pm ThomasStone: Thomas Stone, from Element K in Rochester, New York. Ready for #lrnchat, with no snow on the ground at present.
8:36:13 pm jmarrapodi: @atsc http://tweetchat.com/room/lrnchat #lrnchat
8:36:16 pm BlakeGroup: Amy here–hello! Writer/graphic designer for utilities, education, healthcare, tech, prov servs. #lrnchat
8:36:23 pm ajeanne: @atsc Maybe you mean http://tweetchat.com/room/lrnchat #lrnchat
8:36:24 pm Abhinava: #lrnchat Abhinava S.N from Bangalore, India. Problem Solver, eLearning Professional, ID (in that order). Like to work with fuzzy ideas…😀
8:36:32 pm klowey22: tweetchat is great for aggregation @atsc #lrnchat
8:36:32 pm minutebio: I will be attending #lrnchat, pardon all the posts. #lrnchat/
8:36:39 pm lrnchat: 8) Please RT important points & vital questions asked for clarification, so we don’t miss them amid the lively fast-paced #lrnchat
8:36:39 pm RobRobertson: @Quinnovator A little Bitburger for me! #lrnchat
8:36:44 pm kelly_smith01: “ToTweet, perchance to lrnchat- ay, there’s the rub.” #lrnchat
8:36:45 pm gminks: important stuff RT @JaneBozarth: I forgot I am ruler of Planet Jane and keep celebrities alive on Thursdays. #lrnchat
8:36:46 pm JaneBozarth: Everyone @sahana2802 is IN India and gets up from sleep just to be with us #lrnchat
8:36:52 pm roninchef: Ahoy, ahoy! Mason Masteka, Elearning Curriculum Developer in Portland, ME. Open Source evangelist. #lrnchat
8:36:56 pm rhysatwork: g’day from Adelaide, Australia #lrnchat
8:37:00 pm Quinnovator: been drinking already, clearly RT @JaneBozarth: I forgot I am ruler of Planet Jane and keep celebrities alive on Thursdays. #lrnchat
8:37:04 pm RobRobertson: @jmarrapodi Love Providence! Got married there! #lrnchat
8:37:09 pm ajeanne: @JaneBozarth Hmm… I am “Queen of the Realm,” which many days is a pretty small place.🙂 #lrnchat
8:37:13 pm rmyardley: We’re waiting for bushfires so no snow on the ground🙂 #lrnchat
8:37:14 pm jmarrapodi: Missing @sahana2802 in New England. So glad to see her @lrnchat. #lrnchat
8:37:23 pm usablelearning: What he said > RT @minutebio I will be attending #lrnchat, pardon all the posts. #lrnchat/
8:37:46 pm lrnchat: Q0 (our weekly #lrnchat welcome, also check out @lrn2day) What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
8:37:49 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator .Well yeah I said heuristic 7 minutes ago that means I win, right? #lrnchat
8:37:51 pm sahana2802: @JaneBozarth I love to be on #lrnchat and wouldn’t miss it for anything.
8:37:54 pm atsc: Andrew Chambers, University New South Wales, Sydney, Educational Developer and eLearning specialist in School of Business #lrnchat
8:37:54 pm elatedca: Gary Zee & a cast of hundreds with eLATED in Toronto, the Great White North #lrnchat
8:37:55 pm Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: “ToTweet, perchance to lrnchat- ay, there’s the rub.” #lrnchat
8:38:13 pm JaneBozarth: RT @kelly_smith01: “ToTweet, perchance to lrnchat- ay, there’s the rub.” #lrnchat
8:38:17 pm minutebio: Jeff, e-Learning Designer Baltimore, MD #lrnchat
8:38:17 pm marciamarcia: Dipping into the #lrnchat chatter tonight on community. Hope to see many concrete examples of their influence on learning.
8:38:17 pm oxala75: @jadekaz feel free! #lrnchat
8:38:18 pm gminks: yeah! RT @jmarrapodi: Missing @sahana2802 in New England. So glad to see her @lrnchat. #lrnchat
8:38:20 pm BlakeGroup: Rt @RobRobertson @jmarrapodi “Love Providence! Got married there!” Love it too: went to RISD!! #lrnchat
8:38:29 pm jsuzcampos: RT @JaneBozarth: Everyone @sahana2802 is IN India. Wakes up just to be with us<& she drinks DD coffee like a native New Englander! #lrnchat
8:38:32 pm lrnchat: Q1)What kinds of communities do you see in your orgs? In/formal? In/voluntary? Sanctioned or stealth?#lrnchat
8:38:34 pm kelly_smith01: Let's be careful with our word usage tonight. I only have one can of beer. #lrnchat
8:38:48 pm jmarrapodi: @scareytweets Welcome! Glad to have you. Love the newbies' ideas. #lrnchat
8:38:51 pm allonsdanser: Hate to miss #lrnchat but I've got to finish this assessment and a summative eval. I'm keeping one eye on it in twhirl though!
8:39:02 pm Abhinava: #lrnchat
8:39:05 pm LearningPutty: Q0 (our weekly #lrnchat welcome) What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week? #lrnchat
8:39:07 pm jadekaz: Q0 Learned that sesame oil is not a cooking oil. Condiment/finishing oil. #lrnchat
8:39:08 pm Quinnovator: @rmyardley fondly remember Xmas at the beach: all Aussies were at home in 40+ roasting dinner! We went to the beach😉 #lrnchat
8:39:14 pm jadekaz: RT @lrnchat: Q1)What kinds of communities do you see in your orgs? In/formal? In/voluntary? Sanctioned or stealth?#lrnchat #lrnchat
8:39:15 pm gminks: Q0 today I learned that nothing ever goes as planned #lrnchat
8:39:16 pm mpetersell: Q0 – today I learned that I will be working on a project that will require 50% of my time for the next 4-5 months #lrnchat
8:39:19 pm espnguyen: Forgive the flurry of #lrnchat posts if you're not into #lrnchat. Topic tonight is community's affect on learning
8:39:19 pm sahana2802: @gminks I am so glad to see you all here at #lrnchat. And now I can put names and faces together.🙂
8:39:24 pm mpetersell: RT @lrnchat: Q1)What kinds of communities do you see in your orgs? In/formal? In/voluntary? Sanctioned or stealth?#lrnchat #lrnchat
8:39:27 pm gminks: RT @lrnchat: Q1)What kinds of communities do you see in your orgs? In/formal? In/voluntary? Sanctioned or stealth?#lrnchat #lrnchat
8:39:36 pm gminks: Q1 yes #lrnchat
8:39:39 pm jmarrapodi: RT @lrnchat: Q1)What kinds of communities do you see in your orgs? In/formal? In/voluntary? Sanctioned or stealth?#lrnchat #lrnchat
8:39:44 pm roninchef: @jmarrapodi I'll be down the weekend of the 18th to see the Christmas Carol at Trinity. How are the reviews this year? #lrnchat
8:39:45 pm JaneBozarth: @kelly_smith01 Amateur. #lrnchat
8:40:06 pm LearningPutty: Q0) Learned that use of majority paid and free apps decline significantly within the first three months of use. #lrnchat
8:40:08 pm rmyardley: Q1 ICT sharing expertise with community. Accelerating career development. #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:40:14 pm kellygarber: Q0 I learned that assembling a Bush desk is not, "as easy as 1, 2, 3" #lrnchat
8:40:24 pm cathycrea: Q1 Cathy Crea, reading and study skills instructor at a community college near St. Paul, MN. #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:40:31 pm LearningPutty: RT @lrnchat: Q1)What kinds of communities do you see in your orgs? In/formal? In/voluntary? Sanctioned or stealth? #lrnchat
8:40:31 pm gminks: can we define community first? Are we talking online communities? #lrnchat
8:40:31 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q1)What kinds of communities do you see in your orgs? In/formal? In/voluntary? Sanctioned or stealth? #lrnchat
8:40:32 pm gwoodill: RT Q1)What kinds of communities do you see in your orgs? In/formal? In/voluntary? Sanctioned or stealth?#lrnchat #lrnchat
8:40:34 pm jmarrapodi: Q0 Learned that managers without management skills make for an insane working environment. #lrnchat
8:40:42 pm sahana2802: RT @jmarrapodi RT @lrnchat: Q1)What kinds of communities do you see in your orgs? In/formal? In/voluntary? Sanctioned or stealth? #lrnchat
8:40:42 pm atsc: Q1) Lots of people acting stealthily but that depends on whether structure is firm or soft at the time… i.e. controlled or not… #lrnchat
8:40:45 pm RobRobertson: RT @lrnchat: Q1)What kinds of communities do you see in your orgs? In/formal? In/voluntary? Sanctioned or stealth?#lrnchat #lrnchat
8:40:45 pm reward75: Q0) I learned that visionaries are not practical #lrnchat
8:40:46 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) I see lots of formal communities (also known as committees) and lots of informal communities (also known as networks). #lrnchat
8:40:49 pm elatedca: is feudal an answer? RT @lrnchat: Q1)What kinds of communities..in your orgs? In/formal? In/voluntary? Sanctioned or stealth?#lrnchat
8:40:51 pm Quinnovator: Q0: (re)learned today; once I get past the barrier of actually *starting*, writing goes pretty well! #lrnchat @lrn2day
8:40:54 pm marciamarcia: What kinds of communities do you see in your orgs? In/formal? In/voluntary? Sanctioned or stealth? #lrnchat Q1
8:40:58 pm andrewoshea: Gr8 to be looking at this thread again…. #lrnchat
8:41:00 pm kellygarber: RT @lrnchat: Q1)What kinds of communities do you see in your orgs? In/formal? In/voluntary? Sanctioned or stealth? #lrnchat
8:41:02 pm klowey22: i learned all about the (LONG) process of writing a book… ppl still write books and apparently i'm ready to join🙂 #lrnchat
8:41:07 pm ajeanne: RT @LearningPutty: Q0) Learned that use of majority paid and free apps decline significantly within the first three months of use. #lrnchat
8:41:07 pm jadekaz: Q1 Large corporation – I see communities based on type of work. (E.g., IS, customer service, law, hr…) #lrnchat
8:41:14 pm rmyardley: Q1 Opportunities for people to share ideas and experiences informally #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:41:15 pm JaneBozarth: Q1: 1 Formal but actually outside confines of the particular org; in state govt, but not within one agency #lrnchat
8:41:23 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q1)What kinds of communities do you see in your orgs? In/formal? In/voluntary? Sanctioned or stealth?#lrnchat
8:41:35 pm BlakeGroup: Q1 I still see silos in cos, which blocks communities. Natural affinities can cross functions, but… #lrnchat
8:41:36 pm northlight: Hello from San Diego, CA #lrnchat
8:41:37 pm oxala75: Q0) learned that untearable paper can, in fact, be torn #lrnchat
8:41:44 pm jmarrapodi: @roninchef Christmas Carol @Trinityrep is always fun and full of surprises. Reviews have been good. #lrnchat
8:41:49 pm busynessgirl: RT @lrnchat: Q1)What kinds of communities do you see in your orgs? In/formal? In/voluntary? Sanctioned or stealth?#lrnchat
8:42:06 pm tgrevatt: This week I got to seen @julien (co-author of Trust Agents) speak – highly recommended reading on building/leading communities #lrnchat
8:42:10 pm RobRobertson: Q1) informal sanctioned but formal sanctioned is making a surge with us layering NewsGator on top of SharePoint…gaining traction. #lrnchat
8:42:11 pm Abhinava: RT @lrnchat: Q1)What kinds of communities do you see in your orgs? In/formal? In/voluntary? Sanctioned or stealth?#lrnchat
8:42:19 pm mpetersell: @jsuzcampos I like that characterization committees = formal; networks = informal #lrnchat
8:42:20 pm atsc: Q0) What I learned today: Restructuring happens… Change happens… People, Politics, Personality… Change can be good… #lrnchat
8:42:24 pm minutebio: Q1) I see communities in LinkedIn and Facebook, but they are more stealth than part of any official org. community #lrnchat
8:42:30 pm azmichelle: Agree RT @BlakeGroup: Q1 I still see silos in cos, which blocks communities. Natural affinities can cross functions, but… #lrnchat
8:42:38 pm ajeanne: Q1 In one org I belong to, people are mostly annoyed by the contributions people make to the group (via a Google Group). #lrnchat
8:42:43 pm gwoodill: Q1 Two layers – 1) senior analysts, 2) support staff – each group feels comfortable with each other. #lrnchat
8:42:46 pm cathycrea: Q1: I teach two learning communities: a group of students who take 2 or more classes together. Instructors work together. #lrnchat
8:42:54 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) I have always fought to be on intenal committees just to know client and/or product pipeline (training not always on radar). #lrnchat
8:43:01 pm ThomasStone: agreed! RT @Quinnovator: Q0: (re)learned today; once I get past the barrier of actually *starting*, writing goes pretty well! #lrnchat
8:43:01 pm JaneBozarth: Agree w/ @jadekaz; tend to form around type of work #lrnchat
8:43:12 pm ajeanne: Q1 I'm pretty sure most would rather the rest would just pipe down & be quiet already. #lrnchat
8:43:12 pm jsuzcampos: Q0) learned to manius aquillius died (literally) by choking on gold. (been saving that one all week, just for you). #lrnchat
8:43:18 pm LearningPutty: Q1) Organizations have all of these. Stealth is often seen as gossip. #lrnchat
8:43:20 pm rmyardley: We are experimenting at the industry association (AIIA) with structured invitations #lrnchat
8:43:21 pm jmarrapodi: Q1) Communities are invisible in virtual orgs. People tend to fly solo, but might attach to a workgroup or someone they've met. #lrnchat
8:43:22 pm Quinnovator: Q1: see (in 1 client) organically grown, self-formalize, voluntary, supported #lrnchat
8:43:25 pm ruth4916: Math teacher at cc in MO always interested in PD. #lrnchat
8:43:34 pm marciamarcia: @gminks I hope the conversation is about both online communities and the old fashion org kinds too. #lrnchat
8:43:35 pm roninchef: @jmarrapodi I grew up going every year (I'm from Warren). The version based on Handel's Messiah was my favorite. Very gothic. #lrnchat
8:43:39 pm atsc: Q1) Presently have lots of formal communities but a lot are hierachically driven so communication and inclusion can be an issue… #lrnchat
8:43:47 pm allonsdanser: I'm IDT PhD student learning how to write about field trials and summative evals. #lrnchat Lots of trials/testing/evaluating going on.
8:43:47 pm klowey22: q1) we see a blend all of those kinds of communities… mostly 'stealth' and informal – cultivated around professional interests #lrnchat
8:43:54 pm busynessgirl: Q1 In academia, many organizations are voluntary or unsanctioned. Committee work is largely voluntary. Cliques are unsanctioned. #lrnchat
8:44:01 pm hjarche: RT @LearningPutty Learned use of most paid & free apps decline significantly within the first 3 months | Twitter is the exception! #lrnchat
8:44:14 pm ajeanne: Q1 In another group, folks have created the best learning community I've seen yet… and quite a few of them are grandmothers.🙂 #lrnchat
8:44:16 pm kelly_smith01: Don't forget Subject Matter Networks (which could be a committee) #lrnchat
8:44:28 pm oxala75: Q1) Formal, tribal communities inside my workplace. Largely voluntary, mostly formal #lrnchat
8:44:34 pm gminks: @marciamarcia thx for the clarification🙂 #lrnchat
8:44:34 pm cathycrea: Q1: My department works well together as a community. Common goals, values, philosophy. Can't be forced. #lrnchat
8:44:36 pm rmyardley: The AIIA collaboration group communities are small and few participants drive learning #lrnchat
8:44:36 pm gwoodill: Q1) I hang out w/ the Toronto e-learning community. eLATED is a social group that meets every 2 mths. http://www.elated.ca #lrnchat
8:44:36 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth you're just fishing #lrnchat
8:44:39 pm reward75: Q1) My org doen't learning communities although I am stealthy trying to start some #lrnchat
8:44:42 pm burnhilda: Annie at Boise State but in the UK. Instructor in virtual worlds and social networking, elearning and all that. #lrnchat
8:44:55 pm RobRobertson: Q1) we have a few stealth as well but they are being used to gather best practices to help them go formal/supported #lrnchat
8:45:08 pm BlakeGroup: Q1 Small cos can create comms/let them evolve. More challenging in large orgs. SocMe helps both. Builds bridges. #lrnchat
8:45:17 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) In my experience, communities form around common interest (social, function, expertise) or simply to overthrow bad management #lrnchat
8:45:21 pm klowey22: is anyone mapping these communities in their orgs or just aware of them? #lrnchat
8:45:25 pm JaneBozarth: @marciamarcia no online comms that I know of here #lrnchat
8:45:30 pm ThomasStone: Q0 Learned this week… I should have bought gold many months ago, when I first said I would #lrnchat
8:45:32 pm Abhinava: #lrnchat Q1 Communities are defined need – the organization (and life) creates multiple needs – communities thus form!
8:45:35 pm kelly_smith01: I should have called Subject Matter Networks a "community" #lrnchat
8:45:35 pm mpetersell: Q1 – I see informal communities form within formal committees; people with like/interests and expertise just gravitate together #lrnchat
8:45:44 pm nancyrubin: How do you create a sense of community? How do you turn a project team into a community? #lrnchat
8:45:46 pm ruth4916: Our committee work is part of our contract, but work ethic on committees varies widely. #lrnchat
8:45:51 pm cindyhugg: sorry to miss tonight's #lrnchat… am delivering a virtual training session this evening – look forward to reading transcript
8:45:53 pm marciamarcia: @atsc do you think hierarchical driven means ppl less willing to bond? talk? feel connected? #lrnchat
8:45:56 pm jadekaz: @burnhilda Hi Annie. Nice to see another Boise State student. Are you in the IPT program, too? #lrnchat
8:45:59 pm reward75: Q1) My org doesn't have learning communities although I am stealthy trying to start some #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:46:08 pm BlakeGroup: Interesting chat earlier this week on teams vs communities. Relates to this chat! (looking for transcript) #lrnchat
8:46:09 pm JaneBozarth: RT @jsuzcampos Q1) …communities form around common interest (social, function, expertise) or simply to overthrow bad management #lrnchat
8:46:09 pm RobRobertson: @burnhilda Welcome Burnhilda! #lrnchat
8:46:17 pm gminks: We have formal communities (I manage this one http://bit.ly/C32rh), informal ones based on technologies where I work #lrnchat
8:46:29 pm minutebio: RT @BlakeGroup: Q1 Small cos can create comms/let them evolve. More challenging in large orgs.(TRUE) SocMe helps both.. #lrnchat
8:46:33 pm Quinnovator: in other clients/situations, have seen: emergent & top-down, structured & self-organizing, and even none (officially, at least😉 #lrnchat
8:46:35 pm britz: We are informal, stealth…voluntary… keeps us on our toes…keeps 'em sane🙂 #lrnchat
8:46:45 pm JaneBozarth: RT @mpetersell see informal comms form within formal committees; people with like/interests and expertise just gravitate #lrnchat
8:46:45 pm gwoodill: Q0, Q1: I joined a local political group. Learning lots about behind the scenes organizing. #lrnchat
8:46:47 pm dpontefract: Communities: situational, hierarchical, communal, project-based, transversal, positional & farcical #lrnchat
8:46:49 pm jmarrapodi: @RobRobertson Providence is an amazing place. Always tons happening. #lrnchat
8:46:59 pm Quinnovator: you go! RT @reward75: Q1) My org doesn't have learning communities although I am stealthy trying to start some #lrnchat
8:47:04 pm moehlert: Hey #lrnchat ! Sorry not making it tonight. Just back from #iitsec and beat. Happy wishes 4 awesome discussion and I look fwd 2 transcript
8:47:05 pm atsc: Q1) Online communities are less represented in our large organisation and almost all focused around large projects. eg Blackboard 9 #lrnchat
8:47:29 pm kelly_smith01: Also industry communities (such as a cross-vendor group) which influence the way business is conducted #lrnchat
8:47:36 pm scareytweets: @reward75 What are some barriers to getting started that you see? #lrnchat
8:47:37 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) I have also see lots of communities form to prove the theory that "common enemies make strange bed-fellows" (self-organized) #lrnchat
8:47:40 pm azmichelle: Q1) Work communities also change based on changing projects, goals, etc. #lrnchat
8:47:41 pm gminks: some of the biggest informal communities I'm in at work are email distro lists #lrnchat
8:47:46 pm pedepede2: Q1) informal corridor networking; some FB, Twitter, LinkedIn though not v. active around work topics; hoping 4 more soon #lrnchat
8:47:48 pm ajeanne: Q1 A friend moderates a bunch of groups–approving every post (or not) by everybody. Sets my teeth on edge just thining about it. #lrnchat
8:47:51 pm jmarrapodi: Q1) Communities form to meet a need. That may be formal or informal. #lrnchat
8:47:53 pm busynessgirl: Here's a subquestion for you all: Are YOU a member of more formal or informal communities in your organization? #lrnchat
8:47:57 pm sahana2802: Q1: I see mostly involuntary ones forming to address a specific need at a point in time, then dissolving and reforming again. #lrnchat
8:48:00 pm bobbivernon: We have a variety of communities, in-person & online, formal & informal. Hierarchy influences participation. #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:48:00 pm gwoodill: @nancyrubin How to form community? French solution – lots of food and drink… #lrnchat
8:48:11 pm Quinnovator: takes nurturing RT @nancyrubin: How do you create a sense of community? How do you turn a project team into a community? #lrnchat
8:48:19 pm jmarrapodi: @moehlert I'll miss your witticisms. Rest well. #lrnchat
8:48:21 pm jadekaz: Q1 Also see communities form based on years of service. Lots of "lifers" in org, long friendships equal communities. #lrnchat
8:48:29 pm atsc: Q1) Have note an uptake of using wikis for some less formal communities but still related to work projects… Roll on Googlewave? #lrnchat
8:48:31 pm Abhinava: #lrnchat I believe need creates…! as learning managers, we ought to try creating need – learning and/or performance is a step away
8:48:34 pm gwoodill: So what does virtual food and drink look like? #lrnchat
8:48:38 pm espnguyen: Q1) Not to focus on a tool, but our Yammer community has shown the value of transparent communications in our org #lrnchat
8:48:46 pm roninchef: Q1 My org has a semi-formal training community. Since each line of biz has their own Training Dept. We get together and swap ideas. #lrnchat
8:48:49 pm gminks: And my I work for the company that owns Documentum (of eRoom fame..) #lrnchat
8:48:49 pm rmyardley: @scareytweets getting critical mass to discussion. starter group seems important. #lrnchat
8:48:57 pm Quinnovator: RT @dpontefract: Communities: situational, hierarchical, communal, project-based, transversal, positional & farcical #lrnchat
8:49:04 pm jadekaz: RT @dpontefract: Communities: situational, hierarchical, communal, project-based, transversal, positional & farcical #lrnchat
8:49:04 pm gminks: RT @gwoodill: @nancyrubin How to form community? French solution – lots of food and drink… #lrnchat
8:49:06 pm kellygarber: Q1) where there are people, there are cliques. These informal groups influence the building of sanctioned, formal communities. #lrnchat
8:49:10 pm mpetersell: Trying to build online communities out of training classes by connecting them and resources using SharePoint #lrnchat
8:49:14 pm britz: @sahana2802 Ditto #lrnchat
8:49:16 pm marciamarcia: Informal corridor networking. Love that phrase from @pedepede2 #lrnchat
8:49:18 pm pedepede2: Q1) we tend toward 'committees' rather than 'communities'. Very different mindset #lrnchat
8:49:18 pm gminks: @espnguyen has invoked the Y demon… #lrnchat
8:49:23 pm minutebio: Q1) Large orgs. tend to try to "formalize" soc med. Currently trying to get my org to grasp infrml learning is pulled, not pushed #lrnchat
8:49:23 pm jmarrapodi: RT @sahana2802: Q1: I see mostly invol. ones forming 2 address a specific need @ point in time, then dissolving & reforming again. #lrnchat
8:49:40 pm sahana2802: RT @Quinnovator RT @dpontefract: Communities: situational, hierarchical, communal, project-based transversal, positional & farcical #lrnchat
8:49:57 pm tgrevatt: Q1) City-wide here in Ottawa, twttr is energising existing & new communities, fascinating to see & be a part of. #lrnchat
8:49:59 pm sillym0nkey: Q1) I have noticed that communities w/i orgs tend to be careful these days- more stealth now – watching thier back #lrnchat
8:50:04 pm badsquare: RT @Quinnovator RT @dpontefract: Communities: situational, hierarchical, communal, project-based, transversal positional & farcical #lrnchat
8:50:07 pm reward75: @scareytweets getting people to join together and willing to try. Many feel they're too busy or it's not business #lrnchat
8:50:09 pm atsc: @jadekaz "lifership" tends to aid inclusion in communities… #lrnchat
8:50:16 pm rmyardley: @mpetersell can social media build class alumni? #lrnchat
8:50:28 pm hjarche: all of my learning communities are informal – not sure I could handle formal ones anymore #lrnchat
8:50:29 pm kelly_smith01: Functional level professional (such as C-level execs) may have a community w/members from multiple organizations #lrnchat
8:50:32 pm busynessgirl: I think I used to be in more formal communities, and now participate (or lead) more informal than formal. #lrnchat
8:50:32 pm bobbivernon: This is intriguing (& so true!). RT @pedepede2: Q1) we tend toward committees rather than communities. Very different mindset #lrnchat
8:50:33 pm Quinnovator: @dpontefract I want to join a farcical community, oh wait, I *am* in one #lrnchat
8:50:34 pm andrewoshea: Q1. How do you differentiate between TEAM and COMMUNITY at work? #lrnchat
8:50:41 pm atsc: @pedepede2 At the top we have committees, lower down we have less formal and at the bottom informal… #lrnchat
8:50:55 pm sahana2802: RT @hjarche all of my learning communities are informal – not sure I could handle formal ones anymore #lrnchat
8:50:58 pm klowey22: @marciamarcia @pedepede2 especially if that corridor is virtual and spans the globe …with the same corridor feeling/engagement🙂 #lrnchat
8:51:16 pm reward75: Same here! RT @mpetersell: Trying to build communities out of training by connecting them using SharePoint #lrnchat
8:51:17 pm marciamarcia: @mpetersell Curious why you say it's a "community" you're trying to build rather than a team? #lrnchat
8:51:22 pm olavur: #lrnchat Hello from Faroe Islands – between Iceland and Scotland – http://bit.ly/6z8ZMT Burning the midnight oil(sim)
8:51:27 pm KoreenOlbrish: Missing #lrnchat tonight…just getting back from #iitsec and the kiddos get priority! But missing all the fun…sigh.
8:51:36 pm sahana2802: RT @andrewoshea Q1. How do you differentiate between TEAM and COMMUNITY at work? #lrnchat
8:51:37 pm atsc: @andrewoshea Teams work on projects… #lrnchat
8:51:48 pm roninchef: @gminks You know, we say that but it has been a while since ol' Y has popped into a #lrnchat
8:51:54 pm jadekaz: @atsc Yes! The lifers are great informal teachers/learners with each other and with newcomers. #lrnchat
8:51:55 pm sillym0nkey: RT @andrewoshea: Q1. How do you differentiate between TEAM and COMMUNITY at work? Great ? esp forced teams #lrnchat
8:52:01 pm gwoodill: Q1: I moved to the country. Village of 250. Invited village to a garden party. 70 showed up. First time some people met. #lrnchat
8:52:03 pm BlakeGroup: Q1 Teams often are formed top-down. Communities tend to form bottom-up. #lrnchat
8:52:06 pm klowey22: @reward75 @scareytweets – thats exactly what we face….perception of time and priority and value #lrnchat
8:52:09 pm gminks: I think individual classes I teach form little communities for the week. If they don't I feel like I've failed.. #lrnchat
8:52:18 pm Abhinava: Agree +1 RT @sahana2802: RT @hjarche all of my learning communities are informal – not sure I could handle formal ones anymore #lrnchat
8:52:22 pm hjarche: @sahana2802 especially since I'm officially a curmudgeon now😉 #lrnchat
8:52:33 pm gminks: @roninchef thats true #lrnchat
8:52:40 pm jadekaz: RT @BlakeGroup: Q1 Teams often are formed top-down. Communities tend to form bottom-up. #lrnchat
8:52:44 pm gwoodill: @olavur Hi Olavur. good to see you. #lrnchat
8:52:51 pm cathycrea: RT @BlakeGroup: Q1 Teams often are formed top-down. Communities tend to form bottom-up. #lrnchat
8:52:53 pm mpetersell: @marciamarcia the training participants in our classes come from different geographies and go back to them; so not a pure team #lrnchat
8:52:57 pm JaneBozarth: @andrewoshea Not one thing in common there #lrnchat
8:53:05 pm Quinnovator: RT @gwoodill: moved to the country. Village of 250. Invited village to a garden party. 70 showed up. First time some people met. #lrnchat
8:53:07 pm chambo_online: Lisa Chamberlin – late to the party. #lrnchat
8:53:09 pm kelly_smith01: An informal community within an organization may direct/influence formant/structure of learning/documentation #lrnchat
8:53:11 pm sahana2802: Team can be formed with ppl of diverse interests; Community forms because people with the same interest come together, gravitate. #lrnchat
8:53:11 pm espnguyen: @roninchef @gminks I'll drink🙂 #lrnchat
8:53:16 pm sillym0nkey: RT @gwoodill: Q1: Moved 2 country.Village of 250. Invited village 2 garden party. 70 showed up. 1st time some met. WOW! #lrnchat
8:53:17 pm britz: Q1 Team – i have to be a part of…community I choose #lrnchat
8:53:19 pm bobbivernon: RT @BlakeGroup: Q1 Teams often are formed top-down. Communities tend to form bottom-up. #lrnchat
8:53:22 pm minutebio: RT @jadekaz: RT @BlakeGroup: Q1 Teams often are formed top-down. Communities tend to form bottom-up. #lrnchat
8:53:26 pm gminks: not sure I agree — RT @jadekaz: RT @BlakeGroup: Q1 Teams often are formed top-down. Communities tend to form bottom-up. #lrnchat
8:53:31 pm klowey22: @andrewoshea teams tend to have reporting relationships #lrnchat
8:53:42 pm chambo_online: Q1) Teams are created, communities grow. #lrnchat
8:53:43 pm Quinnovator: @gwoodill when moved to this neighborhood, invited everyone over. Reignited a moribund 'hood, now twice yearly parties! #lrnchat
8:53:46 pm LearningPutty: Q1) Communities are formed when the individuals of a group see a common benefit #lrnchat
8:53:48 pm JaneBozarth: Well, for one, "Team" is something that repels… #lrnchat
8:53:50 pm rmyardley: @gwoodill ditto moved to small town 1 hr out of Melbourne finding very powerful groups within community. especially for learning. #lrnchat
8:53:53 pm Abhinava: @andrewoshea I think…. A TEAM has a common Goal/Purpose… while a COMMUNITY has a common interest/direction #lrnchat
8:53:56 pm atsc: @jadekaz Staying linkedin is an issue especially if you move within a big organisation. Virtual techs make it easier… #lrnchat
8:53:56 pm pedepede2: How to get pulling in same direction? RT @minutebio: trying to get my org to grasp infrml learning is pulled, not pushed #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:53:57 pm jmarrapodi: @kellygarber Clique intimates exclusion though. #lrnchat
8:54:05 pm mpetersell: @marciamarcia We do try to build a sense of team by having people contribute to the org thru the community work #lrnchat
8:54:06 pm JaneBozarth: Oops did I say that out loud? #lrnchat
8:54:08 pm Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: An informal community within an organization may direct/influence formant/structure of learning/documentation #lrnchat
8:54:12 pm reward75: It's more topic based than project based – RT @marciamarcia: Curious why you say its a "community" rather than a team? #lrnchat
8:54:17 pm roninchef: @gminks Us old timers still carry the scars. To ol' Y. #lrnchat
8:54:26 pm ThomasStone: What do you mean "now"? Heh. RT @hjarche: @sahana2802 especially since I'm officially a curmudgeon now😉 #lrnchat
8:54:27 pm dpontefract: @Quinnovator you should see some of the 'communities out there – I call them cultumunities' #lrnchat
8:54:28 pm gminks: teams are more transactional than communities (have SLAs with other teams, etc) #lrnchat
8:54:34 pm Quinnovator: @kelly_smith01 agreed; can get communities to start creating learning/documentation! #lrnchat
8:54:37 pm klowey22: RT @Abhinava: @andrewoshea I think…. A TEAM has a common Goal/Purpose… while a COMMUNITY has a common interest/direction #lrnchat
8:54:38 pm hjarche: RT @BlakeGroup Teams often are formed top-down. Communities tend to form bottom-up. | hard to grow a garden top-down😉 #lrnchat
8:54:38 pm atsc: @bobbivernon Definately agree with that. Is our situation her in a big Uni… #lrnchat
8:54:39 pm sillym0nkey: RT @bobbivernon: RT @BlakeGroup:Q1 Teams formed top-down.Communities tend 2form bottom-up. Yes! unless mgt did good hiring #lrnchat
8:54:52 pm kelly_smith01: Q1 an internal community may provide informal learning of processes/procedures for new employees #lrnchat
8:54:56 pm sahana2802: @hjarche🙂 Formal groups become too involved with rules and less in collaboration and just exchange. #lrnchat
8:55:03 pm busynessgirl: RT @kellygarber Clique = Good old boys network … now maybe some good old girls networks #lrnchat
8:55:06 pm ryanseltzer: RT @LearningPutty: Q1) Communities are formed when the individuals of a group see a common benefit #lrnchat
8:55:12 pm jadekaz: RT @gminks: teams are more transactional than communities (have SLAs with other teams, etc) #lrnchat
8:55:15 pm reward75: I agree – RT @chambo_online: Q1) Teams are created, communities grow. #lrnchat
8:55:18 pm ajeanne: RT @dpontefract: @Quinnovator you should see some of the communities out there – I call them cultumunities #lrnchat
8:55:19 pm marciamarcia: @mpetersell Very helpful. And probably community phrase resonates more across the world. #lrnchat
8:55:21 pm JaneBozarth: RT @BlakeGroup Teams often are formed top-down. Communities tend to form bottom-up. | hard to grow a garden top-down😉 #lrnchat
8:55:31 pm azmichelle: For sure! Overused. RT @JaneBozarth: Well, for one, "Team" is something that repels… #lrnchat
8:55:32 pm rmyardley: communities need a biding purpose. saw that problem with comm of practice. #lrnchat
8:55:48 pm atsc: @gminks Are these formal SLA's? I have seen that term used for a while now… #lrnchat
8:56:02 pm busynessgirl: @Quinnovator Cultimunities (LOL) … you mean like this one? #lrnchat
8:56:04 pm kellygarber: @jmarrapodi yes, it does and isn't that what happens? – often times, it is about who you know. #lrnchat
8:56:06 pm minutebio: RT @pedepede2: How to get pulling in same direction? – If business goals were clearly communicated to all it would help. #lrnchat
8:56:08 pm gwoodill: Learning about political communities. Thinking about adding QR tags to political signs to draw people into our group. #lrnchat
8:56:11 pm hjarche: @ThomasStone 'cause @downes wrote about it; it's now "official"😉 #lrnchat
8:56:25 pm Abhinava: #lrnchat Q1) Infact… We are working on creating a social learning platform – should have the first beta out early next year…
8:56:34 pm gminks: @JaneBozarth unless you have a topsy turvy tomato🙂 #lrnchat
8:56:40 pm jsuzcampos: You can get cut from a team. I don't think you can get cut from a community? (ex-communicated maybe, but not cut). #lrnchat
8:56:47 pm BlakeGroup: Q1 Teams often have more defined leadership. Communities more flexible, but need leadership too to sustain. #lrnchat
8:56:49 pm jadekaz: Q1 Also see clear "community" lines sometimes drawn between managment and non-management #lrnchat
8:56:51 pm sillym0nkey: RT @Quinnovator you should see some of the communities out there – I call them cultumunities- Well put #lrnchat
8:56:56 pm atsc: @rmyardley More like "Binding" purpose… Communities can be hard to form as less formal but even harder to keep steamed up… #lrnchat
8:57:11 pm Quinnovator: do we want to distinguish between communities and networks? Think community overused, most are networks #lrnchat
8:57:32 pm Quinnovator: reckon isn't community until people actually care about others, support through tough times, help develop, etc #lrnchat
8:57:40 pm gminks: @atsc oh yes formal SLAs. #lrnchat
8:57:49 pm kelly_smith01: RT @BlakeGroup: Q1 Teams often have more defined leadership. Communities more flexible, but need leadership too to sustain. #lrnchat
8:57:51 pm mpetersell: @marciamarcia People feel a sense of community after a shared learning experience; we've tried w/out training first, but no go #lrnchat
8:57:58 pm sahana2802: RT @Quinnovator do we want to distinguish between communities and networks? Think community overused, most are networks #lrnchat
8:58:04 pm rmyardley: @atsc a typo I meant binding!🙂 #lrnchat
8:58:06 pm cammybean: Q1: team is about the project; community is about the people, camaraderie, a shared sense of purpose #lrnchat
8:58:08 pm busynessgirl: So, are the students in a class a team or a community? From this discussion, a "team" I think. #lrnchat
8:58:15 pm JaneBozarth: Back to Q1: What communities exist in your orgs? #lrnchat
8:58:24 pm pedepede2: btw, Elgg Campus is newly out RT @Abhinava We are working on creating a social learning platform #lrnchat
8:58:30 pm cammybean: The community is all about the love, man! #lrnchat
8:58:30 pm jsuzcampos: Also, on a team everyone has a unique role (purpose). In a community, roles are much more blended and transient, purpose is shared. #lrnchat
8:58:31 pm andrewoshea: I agree with the comments on the TEAM/COMM comment. Just see some companies trying to promote community feel when it's clearly not! #lrnchat
8:58:34 pm jadekaz: Q1 Like the idea of communities as gardens. Wildflowers exist, but flourishing gardens take care #lrnchat
8:58:38 pm gwoodill: Gary Zee(elated) in Toronto organizes 1 hour PD session, in a bar. Vendor buys food and drink. 50-60 attend. Good model. #lrnchat
8:58:41 pm roninchef: @jsuzcampos I think the term is shunned. #lrnchat
8:58:45 pm lrnchat: Q2) What kinds of activites are communities engaged in? What do they do? How does 'community' occur?#lrnchat
8:58:46 pm sillym0nkey: if we are talking about orgs – then it's communities rather than networks, right? *lrnchat #lrnchat
8:58:48 pm sahana2802: RT @cammybean Q1: team is about the project; community is about the people, camaraderie, a shared sense of purpose #lrnchat Like this!
8:58:52 pm gminks: @jsuzcampos sure you can get dumped frm a community, members can shut off your access to communication #lrnchat
8:58:52 pm ajeanne: Q1 In my community of mostly grandmothers, people actually raise money for those who hit hard times. #lrnchat
8:58:53 pm kellygarber: pass the kool-aid … #lrnchat
8:58:58 pm chambo_online: RT @cammybean: Q1: team is about the project; community is about the people, camaraderie, a shared sense of purpose #lrnchat
8:59:07 pm atsc: Q1) Hmmm… How are teams and communities led? Facilitated? #lrnchat
8:59:08 pm rmyardley: RT @Quinnovator: do we want to distinguish between communities and networks? Think community overused, most are networks Agree #lrnchat
8:59:12 pm kelly_smith01: Are thre virtual communities. I have spent most of my time in the last few years on virtual teams. #lrnchat
8:59:14 pm reward75: @Quinnovator IYO what would be the difference btw community and network? #lrnchat
8:59:21 pm mpetersell: RT @cammybean: Q1: team is about the project; community is about the people, camaraderie, a shared sense of purpose – nice/concise #lrnchat
8:59:26 pm bobbivernon: @Quinnovator What's the difference b/t community and network? #lrnchat
8:59:26 pm marciamarcia: Communities work best when 1) place-based 2) interest-oriented or 3) culture sharing. Purpose may/may not define #lrnchat
8:59:33 pm LearningPutty: RT @jsuzcampos: Also, on a team everyone has a unique role. In community, roles are more blended and transient, purpose is shared. #lrnchat
8:59:34 pm sillym0nkey: RT @ kellygarber: pass the kool-aid … #lrnchat
8:59:41 pm jadekaz: RT @cammybean: Q1: team is about the project; community is about the people, camaraderie, a shared sense of purpose #lrnchat
8:59:43 pm jsuzcampos: RT @roninchef: I think the term is shunned. <>#lrnchat
9:00:07 pm chambo_online: My team is my dept.at work, my community are the ppl I choose. #lrnchat
9:00:09 pm jmarrapodi: RT @marciamarcia: Communities work best when 1) place-based 2) interest-oriented or 3) culture sharing. Purpose may/may not define #lrnchat
9:00:10 pm mpetersell: RT @marciamarcia: Communities work best when 1) place-based 2) interest-oriented or 3) culture sharing. Purpose may/may not define #lrnchat
9:00:27 pm LearningPutty: @marciamarcia can you elaborate on place-based? #lrnchat
9:00:43 pm sillym0nkey: RT @ chambo_online: My team is my dept.at work, my community are the ppl I choose. #lrnchat
9:00:43 pm JaneBozarth: Q2 Also intentionally provides development opps and chance for each other to dry-run, showcase, get feedback #lrnchat
9:00:43 pm sahana2802: RT @jsuzcampos On a team everyone has a unique role (purpose). In a community, roles r more blended & transient, purpose is shared. #lrnchat
9:00:45 pm gminks: RT @cammybean: Q1: team is about the project; community is about the people, camaraderie, a shared sense of purpose – nice/concise #lrnchat
9:00:52 pm klowey22: q2 communities are engaged in webex’s, shared webinars, discussion threads, document sharing..some f2f too #lrnchat
9:00:53 pm mpetersell: Q2 – communities strengthen when they can do something meaningful together #lrnchat
9:00:55 pm busynessgirl: Q2 Many communities form to unite against a perceived problem. Can’t think of a committee that didn’t start this way. #lrnchat
9:00:58 pm chambo_online: @marciamarcia What do you mean by “place-based”? We form community online from diverse places. #lrnchat
9:01:03 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What kinds of activites are communities engaged in? What do they do? How does ‘community’ occur?#lrnchat
9:01:07 pm gwoodill: @Quinnovator Communities = Networks + Food + Drink? I’ve got a theme going. #lrnchat
9:01:07 pm ajeanne: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What kinds of activities are communities engaged in? What do they do? How does community occur? #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:01:08 pm ruth4916: Classes that are weak responding may sometimes be a team but if team exists it may be dysfunctional. #lrnchat
9:01:11 pm rmyardley: Liked the comments about people, place and personality (Richard Florida) #lrnchat
9:01:15 pm bobbivernon: Q1. Does changing nomenclature change the group dynamics? Ex. renaming a “team” to a “community” – what changes besides the name? #lrnchat
9:01:19 pm JaneBozarth: @chambo_online Kind of like relatives! They’re the ones we’re stuck with, friends are who we choose. Sometimes lines blur. #lrnchat
9:01:20 pm oxala75: @jsuzcampos yep. community and its priorities stay with you. #lrnchat
9:01:21 pm nancyrubin: I think teams work better when there is synergy – which to me is a sense of community. Why separate instead of incorporate concepts #lrnchat
9:01:26 pm valdiskrebs: @marciamarcia place may aldso be space… cyberspace… answer is Yes, all three are important for community! #lrnchat
9:01:26 pm busynessgirl: RT @cammybean: Q1: team is about the project; community is about the people, camaraderie, a shared sense of purpose – nice/concise #lrnchat
9:01:40 pm Abhinava: #lrnchat Q2: 90% time-pass 10% actual work – but if a community has critical mass then that 10% translates to a LOT of work!😛
9:01:41 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: Q2: trainer community in NC gov. developed a good competency-based train-the-trainer course on its own Think non billable w/value #lrnchat
9:04:46 pm pedepede2: @Abhinava: @busynessgirl If we all connected perfectly, no need for twitter. Perceived problem = community #lrnchat
9:04:48 pm hjarche: Diff between groups/markets & networks/communities = Co-operation is not collaboration http://is.gd/5bLe7 #lrnchat
9:04:59 pm littleasklab: OH –“the diff between community & network – if someone disappears from a community, it’s noticed.” #lrnchat
9:05:08 pm cammybean: Q2: What helps a community occur? It’s something about the love. (I’m all about the love tonight). #lrnchat
9:05:18 pm sillym0nkey: Communities come together because of common problems, joys or interests. It can also break them apart. #lrnchat
9:05:25 pm LearningPutty: She strikes again! RT @jsuzcampos: Q2) Communities R engaged in activities born from shared purpose – the internal motivator. #lrnchat
9:05:31 pm gminks: @cammybean communities have leaders. usually the 1% of the 90-9-1 #lrnchat
9:05:35 pm roninchef: Q2 Community occurs around a shared interest. Give, take nurture and grow. #lrnchat
9:05:38 pm ajeanne: Communities are groups of people with shared [fill in the blank]. Usually involves some similarity or fellowship. #lrnchat
9:05:40 pm mpetersell: RT @littleasklab: OH –“the diff between community & network – if someone disappears from a community, its noticed.” #lrnchat
9:05:43 pm atsc: @gminks Good point about teams having sense of community. But strength and worth of team may relate to leadership of team too… #lrnchat
9:05:45 pm elatedca: Sounds like strategy vs. tactics RT @andrewoshea Community=fcsed on common goal/s. Team=forced to focus on common goal! Thoughts? #lrnchat
9:05:50 pm SMHoenig: true RT @littleasklab OH –“the diff between community & network – if someone disappears from a community, it’s noticed.” #lrnchat
9:05:52 pm klowey22: @sillym0nkey great point- i find the ‘best’ communities actually have quite a bit of open conflict #lrnchat
9:05:53 pm tgrevatt: Q2) Community also includes support, encouragement (even a little banter, humour etc). #lrnchat
9:05:55 pm RobRobertson: @lrnchat Lrnchat protip – do not forget the bottle opener or you miss a heap-o-tweets grabbing it – Kirkpatrick #lrnchat
9:05:56 pm busynessgirl: @nancyrubin In our college, google chat has done more to create community than anything else (and it’s not a supported app). #lrnchat
9:05:58 pm BlakeGroup: RT @nancyrubin @cammybean IMO, the best teams + best communities share many qualities. Blend the strengths of each. #lrnchat
9:06:04 pm oxala75: Q2) communities engage in classic learning – members learn seamlessly from those with whom they identify. #lrnchat
9:06:08 pm cammybean: RT @littleasklab community motivation often the “love currency” and team motivation more often the “cash currency” #lrnchat
9:06:17 pm jadekaz: @mpetersell I don’t know. I’ve seen communities form without an explicit reason except wanting to learn and share with each other. #lrnchat
9:06:29 pm Quinnovator: Q2: encourage participation, demonstrate caring, share practices. Needs leadership, modeling, nurturing #lrnchat
9:06:34 pm bobbivernon: Q1. Communities are sustainable despite ebb & flow of participants. Teams not so much. #lrnchat
9:06:40 pm gminks: RT @roninchef: Q2 Community occurs around a shared interest. Give, take nurture and grow. #lrnchat
9:06:42 pm ajeanne: A network is a group of people who exchange info, contacts, experience… #lrnchat
9:06:44 pm jadekaz: Ha! RT @littleasklab OH –“the diff between community & network – if someone disappears from a community, its noticed.” #lrnchat
9:06:45 pm sahana2802: Comm may need 1/2 ppl 2 drive towards the purpose. Often many become part of a comm but tend to lurk. In a team, ppl can’t lurk. #lrnchat
9:06:47 pm gwoodill: @littleasklab If a hub disappears from a network it is also noticed. #lrnchat
9:07:00 pm ajeanne: “community” and “network” are not mutually exclusive #lrnchat
9:07:08 pm rmyardley: The best communities are where people look out for each other. When people offer (to help) because they notice… #lrnchat
9:07:27 pm BlakeGroup: Teams often disband when project or whatever is over. Communities seem to devolve more slowly. #lrnchat
9:07:32 pm pedepede2: RT @oxala75: Q2) communities engage in classic learning – members learn seamlessly from those with whom they identify. #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:07:38 pm chambo_online: Q2) Community extends beyond the institution or organization where it formed – doesn’t just meet “there”. #lrnchat
9:07:40 pm marciamarcia: What he said> RT @valdiskrebs place may also be space (cyberspace). All three are important for community! #lrnchat
9:07:43 pm cammybean: @nancyrubin We’re trying to use Yammer to build community within our distributed org. It helps us virtual worker types. #lrnchat
9:07:45 pm elatedca: @andrewoshea while everyone strives to shape community vision, most work on local supporting tactics #lrnchat
9:07:50 pm mpetersell: @jadekaz agreed,but I see my role to help more communities form to share info; it doesnt work until we give them a useful task #lrnchat
9:07:55 pm LearningPutty: That’s what they get RT @mpetersell I’ve seen communities form w/o explicit reason except wanting 2 learn & share w/ each other. #lrnchat
9:08:01 pm JaneBozarth: Back to Q2: What are the communities doing? Activities? . #lrnchat
9:08:05 pm kelly_smith01: RT @BlakeGroup: Teams often disband when project or whatever is over. Communities seem to devolve more slowly. #lrnchat
9:08:08 pm jadekaz: Community are friends network are acquaintences? RT @ajeanne: “community” and “network” are not mutually exclusive #lrnchat
9:08:09 pm valdiskrebs: @SMHoenig IMHO the network is the foundation/structure under the community, community has affection, network has connecton #lrnchat
9:08:12 pm andrewoshea: So what is the best way to create a community from a group of learners that are in front of you? #lrnchat
9:08:23 pm jsuzcampos: RT @jadekaz:@mpetersell Seen communities form w/out an explicit reason except desire to learn w/others.<reason=thirst for knowledge #lrnchat
9:08:25 pm gminks: I don't see a big diff btwn community & network #lrnchat
9:08:29 pm rmyardley: great!!! RT @littleasklab OH –"the diff between community & network – if someone disappears from a community, its noticed." #lrnchat
9:08:32 pm cammybean: @gwoodill I read your post as "if a hug disappears from a network" — and I thought, oh good, Gary's getting all lovey too! #lrnchat
9:08:37 pm bobbivernon: Q1. Does group size matter? Not too big, not too small – the dynamics for "just right" vary for community vs. team vs. cmte etc. #lrnchat
9:08:40 pm sahana2802: RT @hjarche Diff between groups/markets & networks/communities = Co-operation is not collaboration http://is.gd/5bLe7 #lrnchat
9:09:05 pm gwoodill: Get out of the way RT @andrewoshea: So what is the best way to create a community from group of learners that are in front of you? #lrnchat
9:09:10 pm gminks: or maybe the the network connects/feeds communities #lrnchat
9:09:15 pm roninchef: In my head is C. Shirky's Power Law community member, as well. The uber member that usually is at the core of the community. #lrnchat
9:09:21 pm ajeanne: Q2) One community I belong to is busy with plots & subplots in secret… trying to improve things, actually. #lrnchat
9:09:21 pm sillym0nkey: It sound like people either like teams or like communities. Both can b distruptive. There r good &bad teams/communitiies #lrnchat
9:09:25 pm kellygarber: Q2) communities establish protocol, procedure, …rules of engagement #lrnchat
9:09:27 pm rmyardley: it looks like communities are built on networks. Is it that trust is important here? #lrnchat
9:09:51 pm tgrevatt: Have you guys read Seth Godin's 'Tribes'? Talks about breaking out & starting tribe, then others follow. Someone has to start… #lrnchat
9:09:54 pm sillym0nkey: Not sure if size matters as much as who is in the community #lrnchat
9:09:56 pm nancyrubin: I don't think it is what we call it so much that matters but the attitude of the people in the group, network, community, or team #lrnchat
9:10:00 pm ajeanne: Q2) Another community is busy sharing info, photos, hopes & dreams #lrnchat
9:10:14 pm LearningPutty: @andrewoshea Re: forming a community… I like what was said earlier about no distinct roles #lrnchat
9:10:19 pm gwoodill: @cammybean Need a hug? Sending some out to you…OOOOO #lrnchat
9:10:21 pm insynctraining: RT @ajeanne: Q2) One community I belong to is busy with plots & subplots in secret… trying to improve things, actually. #lrnchat
9:10:21 pm Quinnovator: wrote blog post about nurturing: seed, feed, weed (@Dave_Ferguson added breed, where *is* he?) #lrnchat http://bit.ly/sOJYt
9:10:23 pm olavur: In a couple of (formal and semi-formal) organisations that I am involved in, we have used Skype chat as the community builder #lrnchat
9:10:29 pm chambo_online: Q2)Teams do effective activities i.e. work goals, projects, etc., Communities do affective activities i.e. support, challenge, etc. #lrnchat
9:10:34 pm reward75: @JaneBozarth I'm trying to get my communities to help each other with software problems, connect the experts with the novices #lrnchat
9:10:39 pm ajeanne: @rmyardley Well, there can easily be members of a community that few trust. #lrnchat
9:10:42 pm jadekaz: @bobbivernon I think size matters. (chuckle). Need appropriate tools to keep large community working #lrnchat
9:10:54 pm klowey22: RT @rmyardley: it looks like communities are built on networks. Is it that trust is important here? > yes and authenticity #lrnchat
9:10:55 pm marciamarcia: Place-based when community identity based on a region we live/d in, a website we visit, space w/boundaries. #lrnchat
9:11:00 pm gwoodill: @tgrevatt Are you starting a new tribe? Count me in… #lrnchat
9:11:30 pm MLx: @AndrewOShea give them a common problem to solve #lrnchat
9:11:35 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) A community is like a shark it has to keep moving (forward) or it will die #lrnchat
9:11:36 pm cammybean: @atsc But some communities just form spontaneously, don’t they? Leaders may emerge…#lrnchat
9:11:42 pm ajeanne: @Quinnovator I’m missing Dave Ferguson! Where’s my #lrnchat friend?🙂 #lrnchat
9:11:44 pm hjarche: for some communities you have no choice in being a member, but networks are usually by choice #lrnchat
9:11:46 pm cognovi: Creating opportunity @andrewoshea best way to create a community from group of learners that are in front of you? #lrnchat
9:12:03 pm bobbivernon: Q2. Communities tend to self-police regardless of their cause. #lrnchat
9:12:17 pm tgrevatt: @gwoodill Awesome! We’re brewing something cool up here🙂 #lrnchat
9:12:24 pm olavur: @MLx Give them a common enemy #lrnchat
9:12:25 pm atsc: @Quinnovator I’ll go for your tribe, I like seed, feed, weed and breed! #lrnchat
9:12:36 pm mpetersell: @MLx common problems can help bonding #lrnchat
9:12:41 pm kelly_smith01: RT @bobbivernon: Q2. Communities tend to self-police regardless of their cause. #lrnchat
9:12:43 pm insynctraining: @reward75 Great #lrnchat
9:12:45 pm jadekaz: @marciamarcia I see “place-based” communities all over Twitter. Lots of Lists devoted to people in the same city. #lrnchat
9:12:50 pm Quinnovator: @sillym0nkey reckon it’s more: team different than network different than community. Strength of ties, focus, … ? #lrnchat
9:12:50 pm Abhinava: @Quinnovator seed, feed, weed, breed…!? that sounds like a fun party!! where it eej!? #lrnchat
9:13:05 pm atsc: @cammybean Agreed… #lrnchat
9:13:06 pm cammybean: @JaneBozarth Maybe instead of leaders, what a community needs is a circle of elders (although age doesn’t matter) — that 10%. #lrnchat
9:13:16 pm sahana2802: RT @kelly_smith01 Q2) A community is like a shark it has to keep moving (forward) or it will die #lrnchat Right.
9:13:21 pm dpontefract: Communities start specifically or by osmosis; brought together to share toys, ideas & ambitions whilst playing nice in the sandbox #lrnchat
9:13:21 pm insynctraining: RT @tgrevatt: Read Seth Godin’s ‘Tribes’? Talks about breaking out & starting tribe, then others follow. Someone has to start… #lrnchat
9:13:21 pm gminks: today in our community ppl asked tech questions, and I worked behind the scenes on something I can’t talk about (NDA)🙂 #lrnchat
9:13:23 pm lrnchat: Q3)Are communities actively supported? If no, why not? If yes, how? #lrnchat
9:13:28 pm gwoodill: @tgrevatt Give me a call and tell me about it! #lrnchat
9:13:36 pm ThomasStone: I’ll note that we talk of one’s “personal network”, but we never talk of one’s “personal community”. (right?) #lrnchat
9:13:36 pm oxala75: RT @olavur @MLx Give them a common enemy #lrnchat
9:13:47 pm minutebio: RT @bobbivernon: Q2. Communities tend to self-police regardless of their cause. Can’t control a soc lrning comm, which is OK w me #lrnchat
9:13:48 pm rmyardley: @ajeanne but can a community build if there is widespread lack of trust? #lrnchat
9:13:54 pm jadekaz: RT @lrnchat: Q3)Are communities actively supported? If no, why not? If yes, how? #lrnchat
9:13:55 pm sahana2802: RT @insynctraining RT @tgrevatt: Read Seth Godin’s ‘Tribes’? Talks about breaking out & starting tribe, then others follow. #lrnchat
9:13:59 pm cammybean: Difference between community and tribe? Discuss. #lrnchat
9:14:01 pm jsuzcampos: RT @Quinnovator: wrote blog post about nurturing: seed, feed, weed <this was a great post! (and where is Dave?) http://bit.ly/sOJYt #lrnchat
9:14:18 pm sillym0nkey: Yes! Communitites and teams are overrated! #lrnchat
9:14:20 pm mpetersell: @cammybean the tribe has spoken – that sort of thing? #lrnchat
9:14:21 pm atsc: @cammybean More like a circle of the wise mentoring the newer and less experienced? #lrnchat
9:14:21 pm busynessgirl: Q3 Communities are actively supported with blood, sweat, tears … and if they are lucky … money. #lrnchat
9:14:37 pm ThomasStone: We've also turned "network" into a verb, but no one says they are "community-ing". #lrnchat
9:14:40 pm mpetersell: RT @lrnchat: Q3)Are communities actively supported? If no, why not? If yes, how? #lrnchat
9:14:48 pm rmyardley: @klowey22 see article on small business building trust to share and collaborate http://tinyurl.com/y9gtj2w #lrnchat
9:14:48 pm sahana2802: RT @cammybean Difference between community and tribe? Discuss. #lrnchat
9:14:49 pm scareytweets: @jadekaz now that twitter is geocoding tweets, that could become even more relevant #lrnchat
9:15:33 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q3)Are communities actively supported? If no, why not? If yes, how? #lrnchat
9:15:34 pm LearningPutty: Q3) communities are supported by those that like their purpose & can be actively destroyed by those that dislike their purpose. #lrnchat
9:15:34 pm BlakeGroup: Q3 The issue of virtual vs face-2-face: as humans, we need f2f, but virtual means fewer limits to size, location, access. #lrnchat
9:15:36 pm cammybean: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) A community is like a shark it has to keep moving (forward) or it will die #lrnchat
9:15:44 pm insynctraining: RT @kelly_smith01: I like any commimity that does not get mad when I take a while to mow the lawn #lrnchat
9:15:47 pm reward75: Will there b a rite of passage also? @atsc @cammybean More like a circle of the wise mentoring the newer and less experienced? #lrnchat
9:15:49 pm mpetersell: q3 – I see my job as to foster development of communities; support them until they get going #lrnchat
9:16:05 pm sillym0nkey: Q3) Are communities actively supported? Yes – community decides to do so. And No when community bands agst #lrnchat
9:16:12 pm jadekaz: Q3 Not always, but hopefully communities are actively supported. Communities get more done/ have more value if they are. #lrnchat
9:16:36 pm gminks: so we support communities with resources, which is very very important #lrnchat
9:16:38 pm cammybean: RT @ajeanne: Q3) My favorite community has some structure. Theres a "List Mom," who rarely interferes. There are leaders that serve #lrnchat
9:16:40 pm RobRobertson: Q3) by supporting communities (even those we are not naturally a part) we help the whole…rising tide sort of thing #lrnchat
9:16:55 pm gwoodill: What a concept! RT @ajeanne: There are leaders that serve. #lrnchat
9:17:00 pm atsc: How would the structure of a community, tribe or team be visually represented? #lrnchat
9:17:07 pm mpetersell: Informal communities form on their own and support themselves; I'm connecting people who need each other but don't know it yet #lrnchat
9:17:09 pm oxala75: Q3) communities are supported from within (homeostasis, evolution), but not necessarily from without. (CoP, anyone?) #lrnchat
9:17:11 pm rmyardley: communities seem to require people who need and people who need to give. #lrnchat
9:17:12 pm cammybean: @reward75 I'll pass the pipe. #lrnchat
9:17:17 pm elatedca: They vary by type of support, beit public/private entities, needs, etc. RT @lrnchat: Q3)Are communities actively..? #lrnchat
9:17:22 pm nancyrubin: Six Conditions that Form Online Communities http://www.nicklewis.org/node/956 – a lot of the same ideas we have identified here #lrnchat
9:17:24 pm Quinnovator: so thrilled everyone is so green😉 #lrnchat
9:17:25 pm ajeanne: @rmyardley Without trust, I think a community is headed for stormy waters–maybe for extinction. #lrnchat
9:17:33 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) Maybe add "is the community acknowledged"? #lrnchat
9:17:35 pm LearningPutty: help 2 establish other's PLN RT @mpetersell: q3 – I see my job as to foster dev of communities; support them until they get going #lrnchat
9:17:44 pm olavur: Q3) Doesn't the community support it self? #lrnchat
9:18:07 pm BlakeGroup: Must cut out early–excellent chat tonight, thanks all (will thank for RTs later)! #lrnchat
9:18:23 pm cammybean: @mpetersell I was thinking Seth Godin's tribes. #lrnchat
9:18:24 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q3)Are communities actively supported? If no, why not? If yes, how? #lrnchat
9:18:26 pm chambo_online: Explain "support" – by the members? by outside entitites? by imposing structures and rules of behavior (i.e. no ALL CAPS)? #lrnchat
9:18:27 pm jadekaz: Q3 Dedication is required support. But it helps a lot to support with money, influence, resources, etc. #lrnchat
9:18:30 pm reward75: Q3 Mine isn't "officially" supported yet, but working on showing the value of it #lrnchat
9:18:32 pm rmyardley: @atsc a mud map #lrnchat
9:18:37 pm ThomasStone: We can also speak meaningfully of a "network of communities" I think, where the nodes aren't people but groups of people #lrnchat
9:18:38 pm atsc: @atsc Helping people visualise less formal structures may help them understand their design, roles and purpose? #lrnchat
9:18:52 pm sillym0nkey: RT@nancyrubin: 6Conditions that Form Online Communities http://www.nicklewis.org/node/956 – same ideas we identified here #lrnchat
9:19:01 pm pedepede2: Q3) communities not actively supported; why not? recognising common focus, time, purpose, value #lrnchat
9:19:09 pm mpetersell: @olavur once established it does; we try to get people started; they need help #lrnchat
9:19:10 pm RobRobertson: @olavur only when it reaches critical mass (contribution) until then it needs deliberate nurturing #lrnchat
9:19:13 pm nancyrubin: Does your org/company portal that is well maintained? Mine did – updated news and featured employee stories for each week – events #lrnchat
9:19:13 pm Abhinava: #lrnchat Do communities need support!? they are driven/sustained by interest and need… you CANT force-form a community
9:19:17 pm pedepede2: RT @mpetersell connecting people who need each other but don't know it yet #lrnchat
9:19:18 pm roninchef: Q3 Communities are actively supported until they aren't. It is so easy to create an ad hoc community today. Nothing is permanent. #lrnchat
9:19:37 pm ajeanne: @chambo_online Norms will develop, such as taking a drink when seeing certain words flash by.🙂 #lrnchat
9:19:43 pm LearningPutty: @kelly_smith01 don't think you can add "acknowledged" due to some communities' need for "stealth" – doesn't make them less of comm. #lrnchat
9:19:44 pm atsc: @rmyardley Good… I like it, a mud map for communities… #lrnchat
9:19:45 pm gwoodill: RT@nancyrubin: 6 Conditions that Form Online Communities http://www.nicklewis.org/node/956 #lrnchat
9:19:57 pm ThomasStone: My point is just that networks is a fairly "thin" concept — implies relations between nodes of some kind. Communities are richer. #lrnchat
9:20:03 pm jadekaz: Q3 Communities often self-support and ppl give what they have. Also "fundraise" whether that's money, knowledge, space, etc. #lrnchat
9:20:03 pm Abhinava: #lrnchat in the context of things… support is immaterial methinks… it is but a booster not a sustainer… cannot be
9:20:13 pm sillym0nkey: @atsc Helping people visualise less formal structures may help them understand their design, roles and purpose? #lrnchat
9:20:18 pm JaneBozarth: @roninchef Well but that may be the point — to everything there is a season, and all that. Temporary structures. #lrnchat
9:20:21 pm Quinnovator: Q3: communities need to be supported, can be internal/informally, but if org wants to develop, needs to be formally, no? #lrnchat
9:20:22 pm scareytweets: RT @gwoodill: RT@nancyrubin: 6 Conditions that Form Online Communities http://www.nicklewis.org/node/956 #lrnchat
9:20:24 pm sillym0nkey: I love mud map! #lrnchat
9:20:27 pm ajeanne: Q3 I guess it's important to remember that it's not about the community for its own sake: we don't form them just to HAVE them #lrnchat
9:20:28 pm cammybean: Q3: We support communities with our time, our energy, our intellect, our passion. And our love🙂 #lrnchat
9:20:29 pm littleasklab: See similar roles in healthy communities – power center, listener, administrator – can rotate, be self-selected #lrnchat
9:20:54 pm reward75: @cammybean I like this better than the drinking game!🙂 #lrnchat
9:20:54 pm gminks: there is value in capturing the informal communities, and nurturing (fostering?) it into something formal #lrnchat
9:21:00 pm olavur: RT chambo_online Explain "support" – by the members? by outside entitites? by imposing structures and rules of behavior? #lrnchat
9:21:08 pm gwoodill: @ThomasStone You mean networks are all bones, but communities have meat? #lrnchat
9:21:10 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) Not sure if I would always want my community supported. If supported you may have to play by the "rules." #lrnchat
9:21:13 pm JaneBozarth: RT @Quinnovator RT @lrnchat: Q3)Are communities actively supported? If no, why not? If yes, how? #lrnchat
9:21:13 pm atsc: @atsc Visualisation would also help in showing networks and relationships and even resources… #lrnchat
9:21:20 pm nancyrubin: Ning and drupal make it easy to form communities – it is sustaining them that is difficult (LT) – lots of ST activity on a topic #lrnchat
9:21:36 pm marciamarcia: We support communities with our time, our energy, our intellect, our passion. And our love RT @cammybean #lrnchat
9:21:38 pm Quinnovator: @insynctraining you just did, of course. Drink! #lrnchat
9:21:44 pm LearningPutty: Agreed RT @ThomasStone: "Networks" is a fairly "thin" concept as only implies relations btwn nodes of some kind. Comm.s are richer. #lrnchat
9:21:44 pm rmyardley: @Quinnovator if formal support structure will that break the sense of community… #lrnchat
9:21:50 pm mpetersell: @gminks careful not to kill them in the conversion #lrnchat
9:21:51 pm jadekaz: Most definitely RT @gminks: value in capturing the informal communities, and nurturing (fostering?) it into something formal #lrnchat
9:21:55 pm atsc: @reward75 Ugh don't remind me… #lrnchat
9:22:01 pm busynessgirl: Now I'm sitting here and thinking about communities that I've tried to "create" that have failed, and what elements were missing. #lrnchat
9:22:05 pm roninchef: Q3 Keeping with that thought. Do we need old world broad spectrum community now? The niche community certainly seems to be winning. #lrnchat
9:22:05 pm nancyrubin: @gminks I think wikis can be used for a lot of that – especially in academia – do you? #lrnchat
9:22:10 pm scareytweets: @nancyrubin I love drupal #lrnchat
9:22:11 pm gminks: @kelly_smith01 but in a corporate environment, everything is regulated, isnt it? #lrnchat
9:22:11 pm dpontefract: Communities are supported if they have to be … or if they want to be (push vs. pull or real vs. forced) #lrnchat
9:22:16 pm ThomasStone: Awww! RT @cammybean: Q3: We support communities with our time, our energy, our intellect, our passion. And our love🙂 #lrnchat
9:22:19 pm cammybean: @roninchef Yes! Temporary communities form in response to an event, a crisis. And when it's over, the community may fade away. #lrnchat
9:22:19 pm Quinnovator: @kelly_smith01 that's not the *only* definition of 'supported' #lrnchat
9:22:21 pm ajeanne: Oh and hey… at least we're not typing "e-communities" (channeling @dave_ferguson). #lrnchat
9:22:33 pm lrnchat: Q4)What evidence that communities they impact learning? What evidence could there be? #lrnchat
9:22:50 pm roninchef: @JaneBozarth I was just filling out that idea. Dern fool 140 characters:) #lrnchat
9:22:53 pm busynessgirl: I think communities definitely require someone to continually input energy to keep them going. #lrnchat
9:23:01 pm jsuzcampos: RT @gminks: @kelly_smith01 but in a corporate environment, everything is regulated, isnt it? < I have had both #lrnchat
9:26:27 pm bobbivernon: Q4. The evidence is in trending topics! How information spreads like wildfire. Knowledge instantly attained. #lrnchat
9:26:34 pm kelly_smith01: RT @rmyardley: most communities have both explicit and implicit “rules” #lrnchat
9:26:36 pm Quinnovator: RT @marciamarcia: If no one has said so already, community comes from 2 Latin words that mean “with gifts.” #lrnchat
9:26:47 pm nancyrubin: Q4 – watch this video to see how a community can have an impact – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEdVfyt-mLw #lrnchat
9:26:51 pm ThomasStone: I’m pleased that this tweetchat has, until now, not used the phrases “communities of practice” or “it takes a village” #lrnchat
9:26:56 pm sahana2802: RT @JaneBozarth Curious: How many find that their best communities exist outside of the org? #lrnchat
9:27:02 pm ajeanne: Q4) My fave community is full of people who are more knowledgeable about our favorite passion than folks out there acting alone. #lrnchat
9:27:08 pm atsc: @mpetersell I like it. Innovation would be a good indicator. So would devpt of resources or guidelines that live on for others… #lrnchat
9:27:09 pm busynessgirl: Web 2.0 communities thrive off the infusion of energy. When the energy source goes, the blog, tweetstream, or wiki goes too. #lrnchat
9:27:15 pm dpontefract: @marciamarcia also, biologically speaking, community is ‘a group of interacting organisms sharing an environment’ #lrnchat
9:27:16 pm gwoodill: Q4: So far no one has suggested that evidence = measurement. Good thing, too. #lrnchat
9:27:18 pm rmyardley: I’ve seen investors teach entrepreneurs in their communities🙂 #lrnchat
9:27:18 pm sillym0nkey: Best communities mostly outside of the org #lrnchat
9:27:25 pm RobRobertson: @JaneBozarth: How many find that their best communities exist outside of the org?-> Certainly true for me but I hope to help that #lrnchat
9:27:40 pm kelly_smith01: @sillym0nkey I have had good and bad experiences with communities outside the org. #lrnchat
9:27:49 pm cammybean: @ThomasStone You had to be the one, didn’t cha? #lrnchat
9:27:51 pm ajeanne: Q4) So, you’d have to test those folks & a control group… or we could just take my word for it. :))) #lrnchat
9:27:54 pm chambo_online: Real proof though? Community effects on learning…do scores go up with it? Do scores go down w/o it? Specifics vs. anecdotal. #lrnchat
9:27:55 pm jadekaz: Q4 It takes a community to raise a child. I.e., involvement will shape the participant, so measurements should be available #lrnchat
9:27:56 pm pedepede2: @busynessgirl failed community ideas: too many other options, no nurturer, unclear purpose, too few members, no critical mass #lrnchat
9:28:00 pm Quinnovator: @espnguyen yes, but that’s because of a lot of work *building* the community (lots of work behind scenes) #lrnchat
9:28:04 pm atsc: @Quinnovator If there are gifts for others then that shows a communities worth… #lrnchat
9:28:06 pm busynessgirl: I propose that “it takes a village” get added to the #lrnchat drinking game. #lrnchat
9:28:17 pm minutebio: RT @bobbivernon: evidnce in trending topics Hw info spreads like wldfire. Knwldge instntly attained If U can show it is applied too #lrnchat
9:28:19 pm jsuzcampos: RT @ThomasStone: Im pleased that until now, no one said the phrases “communities of practice” or “it takes a village”<Roger that. #lrnchat
9:28:19 pm cammybean: Lone practitioners may be forced to seek community outside of the org. #lrnchat
9:28:23 pm reward75: good and bad info RT @bobbivernon: evidence is trending topics! information spreads like wildfire. Knowledge instantly attained. #lrnchat
9:28:33 pm sillym0nkey: RT nancyrubin: Q4 – watch this video 2 see how a community can have an impact – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEdVfyt-mLw #lrnchat
9:28:37 pm olavur: #lrnchat seems to be a good example of a community supported "from within" – difficult to imagine effective external support…
9:28:37 pm Quinnovator: RT @sahana2802: Q4: #lrnchat is a community that I have personally learned from and keep learning each time. That for me is evidence.
9:28:41 pm marciamarcia: Biologically speaking, community is 'a group of interacting organisms sharing an environment' RT @dpontefract #lrnchat
9:28:46 pm rhysatwork: got pulled away from twitter and now no time to catch up on #lrnchat
9:28:52 pm mpetersell: @gwoodill what would we measure? #lrnchat
9:29:00 pm sillym0nkey: We can learn alot from failed communities #lrnchat
9:29:02 pm ajeanne: Want to kill a community? Give them stupid tools for communicating. #lrnchat
9:29:03 pm JaneBozarth: RT @gwoodill: Q4: So far no one has suggested that evidence = measurement. Good thing, too. #lrnchat
9:29:17 pm atsc: @sillym0nkey Seriously? Perhaps wider and bigger communities are outside the org, but better for the org??? #lrnchat
9:29:23 pm reward75: That's me! RT @cammybean: Lone practitioners may be forced to seek community outside of the org. #lrnchat
9:29:33 pm olavur: Q4) if the community behaves like a shark (i.e. moves forward) #lrnchat
9:29:36 pm gminks: Q4 http://bit.ly/5pSoJO and http://bit.ly/4SnWxP look like learning to me #lrnchat
9:29:38 pm kelly_smith01: @busynessgirl Just don't say "It takes an LMS." #lrnchat
9:29:40 pm Quinnovator: @busynessgirl A secret. As far as I know, *anyone* can add to the drinking game. So, now it's not a secret. Have at it. #lrnchat
9:29:41 pm cammybean: There is a difference between community and a mob. #lrnchat
9:29:41 pm roninchef: @JaneBozarth Mine are. I love my org and my group, but I am still a dev team of one. Outside I'm a part of something bigger. #lrnchat
9:29:41 pm andrewoshea: Thanks all that responded to my Qs. Being in Oz I need to get back to work. To those in other parts, sleep well! #lrnchat
9:29:43 pm bobbivernon: Good catch. Why is that? RT @gwoodill: Q4: So far no one has suggested that evidence = measurement. Good thing, too. #lrnchat
9:29:52 pm littleasklab: @Quinnovator if formal support structure will break … Help them get going & trust members to break structures when needed #lrnchat
9:29:59 pm atsc: @Quinnovator But how is your learning demonstrated? #lrnchat
9:30:18 pm sillym0nkey: RT @cammybean: There is a difference between community and a mob. #lrnchat
9:30:18 pm ajeanne: Q4) There are many kinds of evidence. Cosmic question is: what form of evidence will you accept that something's true? #lrnchat
9:30:29 pm gminks: RT @cammybean: There is a difference between community and a mob. #lrnchat
9:30:39 pm jadekaz: Oh crap. #lrnchat
9:30:52 pm atsc: @kelly_smith01 It takes an LMS for our student courses…😉 We even have facilitators to lead the students in a merry dance… #lrnchat
9:30:58 pm gminks: evidence of learning is not seen in community but the impact on something else #lrnchat
9:30:58 pm dpontefract: I find communities in any shape or form are a necessary non-formal/unexpected piece to the learning puzzle. Imagine life without? #lrnchat
9:31:07 pm Quinnovator: sponsorship?😉 RT @olavur: #lrnchat seems good example of community supported “from within” – difficult to imagine external support…
9:31:15 pm kelly_smith01: RT @cammybean: Lone practitioners may be forced to seek community outside of the org. –> yesss thats what lrnchat is for me. #lrnchat
9:31:21 pm chambo_online: Measurement is what speaks to researchers. Got asked the other day, “Where’s the research proving community improves learning?” #lrnchat
9:31:33 pm busynessgirl: Off topic: Totally forgot to share the Tweetborg with you all! http://bit.ly/qDAho Thanks to @ohmgee #lrnchat
9:31:35 pm gwoodill: Maybe there aren’t any measurement fetishists on lrnchat. RT @bobbivernon: Good catch. Why is that? #lrnchat
9:31:36 pm espnguyen: @quinnovator And we’re all thankful for the work that has been done to build this community. Demo’d by the passion we see here in #lrnchat
9:31:40 pm roninchef: @gminks That would be which side of the pitchforks and torches you are on. #lrnchat
9:31:43 pm sillym0nkey: RT @ajeanne: Q4) There r many kinds of evidence. Cosmic ? is: what form of evidence will uaccept that something’s true?🙂 #lrnchat
9:31:48 pm JoanVinallCox: Joining late – Joan Vinall-Cox – a prof with all her marking done! #lrnchat
9:31:55 pm olavur: @atsc @Quinnovator isn’t learning demonstrated by behaviour? #lrnchat
9:32:05 pm abigrace: Ditto RT @jsuzcampos In my exp, communities form arnd common intrst (social, functn, exprtse) or simply to overthrow bad management #lrnchat
9:32:14 pm rmyardley: Outcomes from learning communities need to be observed, shared and valued. Outcomes I think will be different for different people #lrnchat
9:32:15 pm Quinnovator: RT @littleasklab: if formal support structure will break … Help them get going & trust members to break structures when needed #lrnchat
9:32:30 pm littleasklab: RT @gminks: evidence of learning is not seen in community but the impact on something else #lrnchat
9:32:36 pm LearningPutty: Q4) In terms of measurement for a community – I think you can get Kirkpatrick level one and two.🙂 #lrnchat
9:32:40 pm gminks: measurement is what speaks to stakeholders. Why should they support/fund a community if you can’t measure what it does #lrnchat
9:32:42 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @olavur: @atsc @Quinnovator isnt learning demonstrated by behaviour? #lrnchat
9:32:48 pm elatedca: Q4) nearly impossible to measure for some learning modalities; sometimes a subjective, smile-sheet like evaluate #lrnchat
9:32:48 pm busynessgirl: Should we “measure” communities in English or Metric? #lrnchat
9:33:02 pm Abhinava: @Quinnovator Are you sponsoring the ale…?😉 that would really ‘support’ #lrnchat😀
9:33:11 pm rmyardley: @olavur isn’t it what the behaviour produces that needs to be measured? #lrnchat
9:33:11 pm olavur: @Quinnovator sponsorship without engagement is pretty tame #lrnchat
9:33:15 pm Quinnovator: problems solved, performance improvement… RT @gminks: evidence of learning is not seen in community but impact on something else #lrnchat
9:33:27 pm atsc: @olavur Yes so change in behaviour is the evidence… #lrnchat
9:33:31 pm nancyrubin: Q4 – Just did process mgmt training – you can measure effectiveness of processes through satisfaction measures and quality measures #lrnchat
9:33:34 pm kelly_smith01: RT @LearningPutty: Q4) In terms of measurement for a community – I think you can get Kirkpatrick level one and two.🙂 #lrnchat
9:33:36 pm ajeanne: Hey, if there are no goals, then there’s nothing to measure. #lrnchat
9:33:38 pm minutebio: RT @olavur: @atsc @Quinnovator isnt learning demonstrated by behaviour? AND RESULTS #lrnchat
9:33:46 pm chambo_online: RT @gminks: measurement is what speaks to stakeholders. Why should they support/fund a community if you cant measure what it does #lrnchat
9:34:01 pm gminks: @Quinnovator exactly #lrnchat
9:34:06 pm busynessgirl: @Quinnovator As a matter of fact, evidence of success might be the breakup of the community. #lrnchat
9:34:11 pm espnguyen: Q4) What does it mean if you feel more valued in a community outside org vs inside? Is that normal? #lrnchat
9:34:14 pm kasey428: Very late, Kay Wood, DC area. #lrnchat
9:34:17 pm Quinnovator: @Abhinava communities happen with scaffolding, whether informal/leader or formal is all #lrnchat
9:34:28 pm reward75: LOL! RT @busynessgirl: Should we “measure” communities in English or Metric? #lrnchat
9:34:30 pm Quinnovator: ideally, by meaningful outcomes RT @olavur: @atsc @Quinnovator isn’t learning demonstrated by behaviour? #lrnchat
9:34:37 pm atsc: @Quinnovator impact on people? On outcome? #lrnchat
9:34:38 pm rmyardley: @nancyrubin surely it is the measurement of the desired outcome… #lrnchat
9:34:39 pm sillym0nkey: ajeanne: Hey, if there are no goals, then there’s nothing to measure. Unless Learning Happened! #lrnchat
9:34:41 pm gminks: @elatedca but you can measure problems the training solves #lrnchat
9:34:54 pm Abhinava: Common sense here? RT @gwoodill: Maybe there aren’t any measurement fetishists on lrnchat RT @bobbivernon: Good catch Why is that? #lrnchat
9:34:57 pm Mary_a_Myers: i am very sad…am sitting in a train station and have missed most of #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:35:11 pm atsc: @minutebio Agreed, behaviour and results… But the two can be inextricably linked… #lrnchat
9:35:19 pm Quinnovator: @olavur we’ve got engagement, we just want cash😉 #lrnchat
9:35:22 pm tonnet: @doctorjeff #edchat, #lrnchat, #edtechtalk or any other. Still, p2p should it be best rewarded. I try to connect w/ real ppl any time I can
9:35:26 pm sahana2802: RT @Quinnovator problems solved, performance improvement. RT @gminks: evidence of lrng is not seen in comm but impact on smthg else #lrnchat
9:35:31 pm JoanVinallCox: Scientific American Mind – learning seen in brain scans – http://www.scientificamerican.com/sciammind/ #lrnchat
9:35:31 pm gminks: @roninchef aw come on now…. #lrnchat
9:35:36 pm mpetersell: @chambo_online because it might produce something terrific. #lrnchat
9:35:36 pm bobbivernon: @sillym0nkey Do communities fail? If they’re fluid & informal, what determines success and failure? Can they naturally fizzle out? #lrnchat
9:35:39 pm ajeanne: @sillym0nkey You’re right! We can measure “what happened” even if we didn’t have any goals. #lrnchat
9:35:46 pm Mary_a_Myers: i’ll now just read and try to catch the drift #lrnchat
9:35:53 pm LearningPutty: Q4) simple to measure reaction – but key is a clear definition of “community” 2 ensure you are evaluating the right group #lrnchat
9:35:54 pm atsc: @Abhinava No they are starting to come out of the woodwork now… #lrnchat
9:35:58 pm MarWarrender: RT @tgrevatt: Q1) City-wide here in Ottawa, twttr is energising existing & new communities, fascinating to see & be a part of. #lrnchat
9:36:04 pm chambo_online: @Quinnovator Social presence is impacted by Teacher presence = your scaffolding. #lrnchat
9:36:12 pm scareytweets: RT @JoanVinallCox: Scientific American Mind – learning seen in brain scans – http://www.scientificamerican.com/sciammind/ #lrnchat
9:36:24 pm Quinnovator: of teams, but community? RT @busynessgirl: @Quinnovator evidence of success might be the breakup of the community. #lrnchat
9:36:38 pm allonsdanser: I think I already belong to my tribe at work, but I’m working to establish a community of learners. #lrnchat
9:36:43 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @chambo_online: @Quinnovator Social presence is impacted by Teacher presence = your scaffolding. #lrnchat
9:36:46 pm kelly_smith01: @Mary_a_Myers Mmmmm sitting in train station – sad – misssed much of lrnchat — sounds like a song #lrnchat
9:36:48 pm rmyardley: @atsc if the link is not understood then the measures could be abused?? #lrnchat
9:36:48 pm kasey428: RT @Mary_a_Myers: ill now just read and try to catch the drift #lrnchat
9:36:49 pm atsc: @ajeanne But without goals one has no direction, no focus and surely a poorer outcome? I guess this relates to team vs community… #lrnchat
9:36:51 pm cammybean: @unorder We’re essentially talking about COPs on #lrnchat tonight.
9:36:53 pm sillym0nkey: Communities can fail when all the systems fail – Katrina #lrnchat
9:36:55 pm gminks: @Mary_a_Myers don’t be sad, jump in!! #lrnchat
9:37:08 pm Quinnovator: say more? RT @chambo_online: @Quinnovator Social presence is impacted by Teacher presence = your scaffolding. #lrnchat
9:37:08 pm minutebio: RT @atsc: @minutebio Agreed, behaviour and results. But the 2 can be inextricably linked…Yes, but specifically positive results #lrnchat
9:37:10 pm olavur: Exactly! @Quinnovator @olavur we’ve got engagement, we just want cash😉 #lrnchat
9:37:15 pm kasey428: RT @allonsdanser: I think I already belong to my tribe at work, but Im working to establish a community of learners. #lrnchat
9:37:24 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @cammybean: @unorder Were essentially talking about COPs on #lrnchat tonight. #lrnchat
9:37:28 pm roninchef: @gminks With great power… something, something, right? #lrnchat
9:38:02 pm ajeanne: @atsc I guess if you aren’t trying to get anywhere, then anyplace you end up is fine (with apologies to the Cheshire Cat). #lrnchat
9:38:07 pm bobbivernon: @reward75 True. Like @minutebio mentions, it all depends on how that knowledge is applied. Cmnty can be a bad thing w/bad info. #lrnchat
9:38:14 pm kasey428: RT @sillym0nkey: Communities can fail when all the systems fail – Katrina #lrnchat
9:38:22 pm gminks: @roninchef yes uncle ben #lrnchat
9:38:27 pm Quinnovator: Homeward Bound RT @kelly_smith01: @Mary_a_Myers Mmmmm sitting in train station – sad – misssed much of lrnchat — sounds like song #lrnchat
9:38:36 pm Mary_a_Myers: @kelly_smith01 hehehe…i could continue…hunched over my laptop waiting for the train police to cut off my wifi… #lrnchat
9:38:57 pm elatedca: SocMed version of Pygmalion Effect? RT @chambo_online: @Quinnovator Social presence impacted by Teacher presence..your scaffolding. #lrnchat
9:39:18 pm atsc: @kasey428 I wish nI could get “my” academics to be an open community of learners! #lrnchat
9:39:20 pm Abhinava: Question: How do you guys define a Tribe…? the way I see it a tribe has more than one common interest/direction #lrnchat
9:39:28 pm chambo_online: @Quinnovator Social, Teacher, and cognitive presence all linked, but research (Garrison, I think) says social improves w/teach pres #lrnchat
9:39:28 pm busynessgirl: @sillym0nkey And communities can flourish when all the systems fail, as this gives them a common purpose (bringing the system back) #lrnchat
9:39:28 pm Quinnovator: where’s @JaneBozarth? Must’ve been the drinking game! #lrnchat
9:39:52 pm gminks: @roninchef but really, who should be trying to influence this behind the firewall? You can’t change things w/o being in the game #lrnchat
9:39:57 pm Quinnovator: @gwoodill “Kirkpatrick”. Drink! #lrnchat
9:40:03 pm busynessgirl: Country-western song … my dog died, my wife left me, and … the worst of all? I missed #lrnchat
9:40:05 pm gwoodill: Learning = Brain change? Or more? RT @JoanVinallCox: Scientific American Mind – learning seen in brain scans. #lrnchat
9:40:23 pm LearningPutty: Question: How do you measure informal “community” based learning against expected outcomes when u aren’t planning ahead of time? #lrnchat
9:40:28 pm Abhinava: #lrnchat but with the above definition, do tribes really exist in our corporate/work structures? our abilities to multi-task in groups is😦
9:40:37 pm gminks: yoo hoo Jane!! RT @Quinnovator: wheres @JaneBozarth? Mustve been the drinking game! #lrnchat
9:40:45 pm JoanVinallCox: I can scaffold a CoP but, like horses, students have to choose to drink – or rather becaome a community #lrnchat
9:40:48 pm Mary_a_Myers: @busynessgirl that is truly beautiful. #lrnchat
9:41:00 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @busynessgirl: Country-western song … my dog died, my wife left me, and … the worst of all? I missed #lrnchat
9:41:13 pm Quinnovator: LOL RT @busynessgirl: Country-western song … my dog died, my wife left me, and … the worst of all? I missed #lrnchat
9:41:20 pm ajeanne: RT @busynessgirl: Country-western song … my dog died, my wife left me, and … the worst of all? I missed #lrnchat
9:41:21 pm bobbivernon: @sillym0nkey Are people considered part of the system? Wondering if community is defined by WHO + WHAT + HOW. #lrnchat
9:41:22 pm chambo_online: Social, Teacher, and Cognitive presence http://www.ucalgary.ca/~nvaughan/coiissues.pdf #lrnchat
9:41:27 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: @gwoodill Right. Kirkpatrick just a taxonomy anyway. Not a model or theory. #lrnchat
9:41:28 pm gwoodill: Definitely not measurement. RT @JaneBozarth: @gwoodill Right. Kirkpatrick just a taxonomy anyway. Not a model or theory. #lrnchat
9:41:34 pm chambo_online: RT @JoanVinallCox: I can scaffold a CoP but, like horses, students have to choose to drink – or rather becaome a community #lrnchat
9:41:43 pm hjarche: @busynessgirl that’s a real hurtin’ song! #lrnchat
9:41:46 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator @gminks I’m here! I said ‘taxonomy’! #lrnchat
9:42:08 pm Quinnovator: RT @chambo_online: @Quinnovator Social, Teacher, & cognitive presence all linked, but research says social improves w/teach pres #lrnchat
9:42:08 pm atsc: @JoanVinallCox Facilitation helps community building process especially for learning students… And who better to lead – a teacher #lrnchat
9:42:14 pm Abhinava: @gwoodill You gave the first drink term! drinka drinka drinka lily the pinka pinka pinka… #lrnchat
9:42:27 pm Mary_a_Myers: could/is sustainment and evolution evidence of success? (did i already post this thought) #lrnchat
9:43:23 pm kelly_smith01: Homer Simpson: Mmmmmmmmmmm taxonomyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy #lrnchat
9:43:24 pm ajeanne: Q4) You could measure longevity. If anybody cares about that. #lrnchat
9:43:25 pm pedepede2: Tribes, peers, identity, community, presence. Who you are by who you hang out with; trust and social capital; multi-idents #lrnchat
9:43:35 pm busynessgirl: My legs are getting tired … have done three tweetchat nights in a row on the exercise bike. Can I last 15 min more? #lrnchat
9:43:47 pm sahana2802: Have to go…sorry to leave #lrnchat but office beckons. See you online…
9:43:49 pm Quinnovator: Our abilities to multi-task is😦, Period. RT @Abhinava: #lrnchat our abilities to multi-task in groups is😦
9:44:03 pm atsc: @Abhinava I need some medicinal compound… Bless you Lydia Pinkham… #lrnchat
9:44:06 pm kasey428: RT @JoanVinallCox: I can scaffold a CoP but, like horses, students have to choose to drink – or rather becaome a community #lrnchat
9:44:19 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @Mary_a_Myers: could/is sustainment and evolution evidence of success? |yes| (did i already post this thought) | & no.| #lrnchat
9:44:24 pm Mary_a_Myers: @busynessgirl you are truly inspiring for the bike and the song. #lrnchat
9:44:33 pm ajeanne: @busynessgirl Way to multi-task! #lrnchat
9:44:35 pm busynessgirl: Longevity could also be stagnation. Have seen this in many professional organizations. @ajeanne #lrnchat
9:44:37 pm sillym0nkey: there have been lots of drink terms. kirkpatrick, taxonomy, I have been trying to do my assigned drinking #lrnchat
9:44:42 pm JaneBozarth: RT @kelly_smith01: Homer Simpson: Mmmmmmmmmmm taxonomyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy #lrnchat
9:44:44 pm gminks: @sahana2802 bye good to see you!! #lrnchat
9:45:14 pm kelly_smith01: @busynessgirl Think, Lance , Lance #lrnchat
9:45:15 pm tgrevatt: @busynessgirl Awesome, pick up the tempo for the final push! Smart multitasking, need pic of your bike/pc setup, lol #lrnchat
9:45:19 pm atsc: Thank god it is Friday… #lrnchat
9:45:22 pm JaneBozarth: PS See Jane not use the retweet button. #lrnchat
9:45:28 pm olavur: Time to sleep – thanks for the wise words tonight #lrnchat
9:45:29 pm roninchef: @gminks Let it happen organically, then pave the cow path. If there is a need a community will arise, #lrnchat
9:45:31 pm busynessgirl: We’re drinking water, right? #lrnchat
9:45:35 pm ajeanne: Taxonomies rock, but poor Homer, he wouldn’t get that. #lrnchat
9:45:41 pm Abhinava: Actually..😐 RT @Quinnovator: Our abilities to multi-task is😦, Period. RT @Abhinava: #lrnchat our abilities to multi-task in groups is😦
9:45:42 pm JaneBozarth: @sahana2802 Bye! USA misses you! #lrnchat
9:45:42 pm nancyrubin: Another good post – http://elearningtech.blogspot.com/2009/11/selling-learning-communities-not.html #lrnchat
9:45:48 pm Quinnovator: Wait, isn’t Kirkpatrick, like, a god? *drink* RT @JaneBozarth: @gwoodill Right. Kirkpatrick just taxonomy. Not a model or theory. #lrnchat
9:45:57 pm pedepede2: Or measure longevity w/ less active moderation, ie does it sustain itself? RT @ajeanne: Q4) You could measure longevity. #lrnchat
9:45:58 pm kellygarber: RT @busynessgirl: Longevity could also be stagnation. Have seen this in many professional organizations. @ajeanne #lrnchat
9:46:03 pm Mary_a_Myers: so what about the communities you choose and the ones you “live in”… #lrnchat
9:46:09 pm Quinnovator: *hic* RT @sillym0nkey: there have been lots of drink terms. kirkpatrick, taxonomy, I have been trying to do my assigned drinking #lrnchat
9:46:12 pm kasey428: I suspect there are more failures of CoPs than there are successes to date. Too many places CoPs are created top down w/o buy-in. #lrnchat
9:46:20 pm sillym0nkey: RT @busynessgirl: We’re drinking water, right? Yes WE are #lrnchat
9:46:57 pm Abhinava: @sahana2802 Bye..!🙂 have a great day…! pummel them! #lrnchat
9:47:06 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @Mary_a_Myers: so what about the communities you choose and the ones you “live in”… #lrnchat
9:47:18 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator Yes, a god without a theory. #lrnchat
9:47:27 pm roninchef: ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE. #lrnchat
9:47:28 pm cammybean: The community is wilting… #lrnchat
9:47:32 pm ajeanne: Hey, I’m mostly kidding about the longevity measure… Unless we’re having a community just to have it, who cares about that? #lrnchat
9:47:40 pm reward75: @Quinnovator http://www.thepeasegroup.com/_blog/Articles/post/The_Brain_Can_NOT_Multi-task #lrnchat
9:47:44 pm kasey428: Bourbon, double, one cube of ice and shaking my head over Kirkpatrick… #lrnchat
9:47:48 pm JaneBozarth: Not convinced you can create a community and make people participate in it.. #lrnchat
9:47:59 pm gminks: @roninchef but communities do already exist, getting them to port to diff technology is all we’re doing so more ppl can benefit #lrnchat
9:48:03 pm bobbivernon: @Abhinava @gwoodill Some forms of measurement are starting to pop up in the chat… #lrnchat
9:48:10 pm atsc: @roninchef Your scaring me… #lrnchat
9:48:17 pm chambo_online: @roninchef drink drank drunk on that one. #lrnchat
9:48:19 pm kelly_smith01: My personal community has LOL much tonight #lrnchat
9:48:22 pm Mary_a_Myers: or it has had too much to drink RT @cammybean: The community is wilting… #lrnchat
9:48:31 pm Quinnovator: I’d rather measure outcomes: new ideas, more practitioners or experts, … RT @ajeanne: Q4) You could measure longevity. #lrnchat
9:48:37 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: Not convinced you can create a community and make people participate in it.. #lrnchat
9:48:41 pm gminks: @roninchef you know you can just take a drink if you are that thirsty #lrnchat
9:48:50 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @gminks: @roninchef communities do already exist, getting them to port to diff tech is all were doing so more ppl can benefit #lrnchat
9:48:54 pm gwoodill: Baby boomers care about longevity…RT @ajeanne: Hey, I’m mostly kidding… who cares about that? #lrnchat
9:48:56 pm minutebio: RT @JaneBozarth: Not convinced you can create a community and make people participate in it.. Does it Have to evolve? #lrnchat
9:48:56 pm atsc: @kasey428 Bourbon and L&P but you’ll have to go to New Zealand to try it… #lrnchat
9:49:02 pm Mary_a_Myers: @JaneBozarth what about neighbourhoods? you can’t choose your neighbours but you need to deal/work/talk/avoid them. #lrnchat
9:49:16 pm Quinnovator: *get* them to participate! RT @JaneBozarth: Not convinced you can create a community and make people participate in it.. #lrnchat
9:49:17 pm kasey428: DC Tweetup for Lrn-Chat folks, Fado’s, Chinatown, 6:30 PM Tues. 12/8 #lrnchat
9:49:29 pm gminks: wait – I could have actually drank tonight! shoot! #lrnchat
9:49:46 pm busynessgirl: @JaneBozarth How about the Obama campaign community? Carefully crafted and highly successful. #lrnchat
9:49:50 pm kelly_smith01: I like when my community is a bit stealth. We don’t need any stinking badges. #lrnchat
9:50:08 pm sillym0nkey: Like someone said earlier – community is a lot like family – you can choose some members of your communitiy but not all #lrnchat
9:50:12 pm JoanVinallCox: What about measuring vibrancy and period it lasts – Possible? Like lrnchat #lrnchat
9:50:13 pm rmyardley: perhaps we can know we have a great community but always too late. The great community emerges but can’t be always anticipated #lrnchat
9:50:18 pm nancyrubin: When starting a community – a few natl leaders will emerge who need to mentor others who are interested but need help and on and on #lrnchat
9:50:19 pm bobbivernon: Agreed. RT @JaneBozarth: Not convinced you can create a community and make people participate in it.. #lrnchat
9:50:28 pm kelly_smith01: RT @busynessgirl: @JaneBozarth How about the Obama campaign community? Carefully crafted and highly successful. #lrnchat
9:50:30 pm kasey428: RT @kelly_smith01: I like when my community is a bit stealth. We dont need any stinking badges. #lrnchat
9:50:36 pm chambo_online: @Mary_a_Myers neighborhoods are not community unless ppl in them choose to associate. Otherwise, just ppl who share space #lrnchat
9:50:46 pm ThomasStone: @Mary_a_Myers In an important sense, every community I belong to is chosen by me — except family. #lrnchat
9:50:54 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links welcome. What can we help you with? #lrnchat
9:50:55 pm JaneBozarth: @Mary_a_Myers I wouldn’t call that a ‘community’ as we’re discussing here #lrnchat
9:51:03 pm Abhinava: #lrnchat Just to help things along: Dialoguing, Thiagi, Mager, MBTI, Multiple Intelligences, rapid, Csikszentmihalyi Talk about support!
9:51:09 pm Quinnovator: exactly! RT @reward75: @Quinnovator http://bit.ly/4ABC2p #lrnchat
9:51:16 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @rmyardley: we can know we have great community but always too late. The great community emerges but cant be always anticipated #lrnchat
9:51:30 pm sillym0nkey: If you can’t get the community to participate then some one is probably trying to lead aone man parade #lrnchat
9:51:36 pm cammybean: There are intentional communities and then there are your neighbors. #lrnchat
9:51:39 pm roninchef: @gminks I know and I’m with you. But like what @JaneBozarth is getting at, can you make them do it, use it? You need the Power Law! #lrnchat
9:51:41 pm Mary_a_Myers: @chambo_online although i’d argue that there is an element of sharing space that allows for community. #lrnchat
9:52:08 pm chambo_online: RT @cammybean: There are intentional communities and then there are your neighbors. #lrnchat
9:52:10 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @Abhinava: #lrnchathelp things along: Dialoguing, Thiagi, Mager, MBTI, Multiple Intelligences, rapid, Csikszentmihalyi #lrnchat
9:52:20 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links welcome. What can we help you with? #lrnchat
9:52:28 pm gminks: you have to make community relevant so ppl will want to connect (& stay connected) #lrnchat
9:52:29 pm Mary_a_Myers: @JaneBozarth i like to equate the idea of community to the larger world … find commonalities… #lrnchat
9:52:35 pm rmyardley: Love it RT @sillym0nkey: If you cant get the community to participate then some one is probably trying to lead aone man parade #lrnchat
9:52:35 pm Abhinava: @Quinnovator #lrnchat I would also measure new directions and purposes
9:52:36 pm chambo_online: @Mary_a_Myers agreed – it is one component…others needed to be community tho. #lrnchat
9:52:37 pm nancyrubin: Attended Campus Tech Virtual Conference today – lots of comm. building in lounge and sessions. Good connections and conversations #lrnchat
9:52:42 pm gwoodill: @ThomasStone Actually, once you are an adult, you can choose who in your family is part of your community. #lrnchat
9:52:46 pm tgrevatt: Communities come out of authenticity, can’t force them. Also they form (created or ntly) to serve a need, if needs met, folks join. #lrnchat
9:52:51 pm gminks: @roninchef I agree w that, you have to make it mean something for them, so they’ll want to connect #lrnchat
9:53:00 pm reward75: @Mary_a_Myers True, even if it’s cyberspace. #lrnchat
9:53:07 pm sillym0nkey: RT @Quinnovator: exactly! RT @reward75: @Quinnovator http://bit.ly/4ABC2p #lrnchat
9:53:11 pm kasey428: Obama had more than scaffolding. He had massive campaign staff. Enough participated to get the job done though. #lrnchat
9:53:26 pm Quinnovator: Wow, that time already? Thanks to all you great #lrnchat participants. Laughs, great thoughts, always a great time! Truly, a community!
9:53:33 pm pedepede2: Qwrap) Natalie in Sydney. Embarking on community *building*coaxing*pursuading*, crossed fingers. #lrnchat
9:53:35 pm JoanVinallCox: Joan Vinall-Cox – from Oakville Ontario – interested in how we all learn differnetly, & tech & social #lrnchat
9:53:48 pm mpetersell: Mike from Connecticut; thanks for letting me be part of this community: http://bit.ly/87T8tm #lrnchat
9:53:55 pm gminks: I’m Gina outside Boston, I’m hoping if I post a link to our Rummler presentation (for grad class) some of you will evaluate it! #lrnchat
9:53:57 pm cognovi: communities emerge when there is a need. To have people participate you need to create a need …#lrnchat
9:53:58 pm ThomasStone: Important to note how fortunate we are to live in USA/Canada/etc. In some countries, you don’t choose work or housing community. #lrnchat
9:53:58 pm Mary_a_Myers: @JaneBozarth b/c what works or doesn’t work 4 “neighbourhoods” may be handy when thinking about the type of co we r talking about #lrnchat
9:54:02 pm hjarche: My latest thoughts on communities: Success depends on who we work with http://is.gd/58Xbe #lrnchat
9:54:05 pm kasey428: RT @tgrevatt: Communities come out of authenticity, cant force them. …serve a need, if needs met, folks join. #lrnchat
9:54:11 pm rmyardley: Bye everyone enjoyed the chat. Russell Yardley Woodend (out of Melbourne) Australia. It’s Fri afternoon think I’ll get a drink!🙂 #lrnchat
9:54:19 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @tgrevatt: Communities from authenticity, cant force. Also they form (created or ntly) 2 serve a need, if needs met, folks join. #lrnchat
9:54:20 pm gminks: @kasey428 Obama used old-school community building #lrnchat
9:54:22 pm bobbivernon: RT @cammybean: There are intentional communities & then there are urnneighbors.–>Then there are intentional n’bors, like the MIL!? #lrnchat
9:54:27 pm ajeanne: Night everyone. In San Jose, signing off for dinner. Nice to see y’all. #lrnchat
9:54:30 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, learning technology strategy consultant, learning experience design instigator, learnlets.com blogger, #Lrnchat
9:54:36 pm busynessgirl: Help me get Ch3 of my dissertation finished. If you see me goofing off, ask how Ch3 is coming along. #lrnchat
9:54:36 pm scareytweets: RT @cognovi: communities emerge when there is a need. To have people participate you need to create a need …#lrnchat #lrnchat
9:54:45 pm JaneBozarth: Good night! RDU, NC, USA http://bozarthzone.blogspot.com. And oh yes, dissertation on … communities of practice #lrnchat
9:54:49 pm cammybean: Go team, go! Cammy Bean signing off from New England. Thx for the community. #lrnchat
9:54:50 pm Mary_a_Myers: @JoanVinallCox hey oakville was where i was born! #lrnchat
9:54:51 pm nancyrubin: Thanks for a great topic tonight. Great conversation with fascinating people – my favorite night of the week. #lrnchat
9:54:55 pm chambo_online: Lisa Chamberlin – conference proposal writer on the topic of community bldg affecting learning…this has been helpful🙂 #lrnchat
9:55:01 pm kasey428: Darn, next week, maybe, just maybe I won’t work so late. #lrnchat
9:55:02 pm atsc: Andrew from Sydney, need help with Blackboard 9. Can I show you our course template? #lrnchat
9:55:03 pm reward75: Regina, NYC, jack of all things learning and learning more thanks to #lrnchat
9:55:15 pm gwoodill: Gary Woodill near Cobourg, Ontario. Enjoyed the chat. #lrnchat
9:55:16 pm roninchef: @gminks I’d love to have my org adopt better community methods. All I can do is be ready for when they want to. #lrnchat
9:55:28 pm gminks: @cammybean hi! and bye! #lrnchat
9:55:29 pm minutebio: Been great, thanks – Jeff from Baltimore, e-Learning Designer #lrnchat
9:55:31 pm ThomasStone: @gwoodill I was referring to the family qua community. You are born into it, not chosen like others (in free countries at least) #lrnchat
9:55:32 pm kellygarber: IMO – we are all part of communities whether we want to be or not – communities are labeled segments of the whole. #lrnchat
9:55:40 pm JoanVinallCox: @Mary_a_Myers Cool! #lrnchat
9:55:45 pm kasey428: RT @gminks: @kasey428 Obama used old-school community building >Concur, but with a massive campaign staff engineering the effort. #lrnchat
9:55:52 pm Mary_a_Myers: Mary Myers enroute from Toronto to Kingston, going home to deal with another type of community, happy to catch even a minute of #lrnchat
9:55:56 pm sillym0nkey: Deb in ATL – game-based learning – had lots of fun chatting tonight #lrnchat
9:55:59 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, North Texas, Kirkpatricking the night away, ISD person and procrastinating blogger #lrnchat
9:56:03 pm Abhinava: Qwrap: Abhinava S.N From Bangalore, India – making drunks in #lrnchat now – advocate of CTCA – Clear thinking Concise Articulation
9:56:15 pm cammybean: I just have to say that scaffolding is a complete learning geek word. #lrnchat
9:56:17 pm ronindotca: I like when my community is a bit stealth. We don’t need any stinking badges. #lrnchat (via @kelly_smith01)
9:56:32 pm busynessgirl: Nice to be part of your community tonight. Legs tired. Signing off. #lrnchat
9:56:35 pm cammybean: @gminks hi bye! #lrnchat
9:56:38 pm pedepede2: Believe some still have little choice of work/housing community in USA/Canada etc @ThomasStone #lrnchat
9:56:49 pm tgrevatt: Good to visit w you again. Treena from Ottawa, recovering physics prof & SoMe junkie, making mischief up here when I can. #lrnchat
9:56:53 pm cognovi: Good night for Ontario Canada, enjoyed the chat #lrnchat
9:56:54 pm bobbivernon: G’night from Charlottesville, VA, where I’m left to ponder my fascination with definitions & their impact on process/acceptance #lrnchat
9:56:56 pm ThomasStone: Thomas Stone, Product Design Architect at Element K, in Rochester, New York. Another good #lrnchat tonight!
9:57:00 pm JaneBozarth: @Mary_a_Myers Not interested in joining that ‘community’ . Bought house and will put up with what I must. #lrnchat
9:57:14 pm kasey428: RT @cammybean: I just have to say that scaffolding is a complete learning geek word. >Sooooooo true. #lrnchat
9:57:16 pm kelly_smith01: RT @cammybean: I just have to say that scaffolding is a complete learning geek word. #lrnchat
9:57:18 pm trishuhl: I agree – communities need to start / grow organically – eg study groups that evolve from a training cohort – w common need / goal #lrnchat
9:57:19 pm atsc: @cammybean Yes quit with the scaffolding, I don’t want to be a builder… #lrnchat
9:57:23 pm JoanVinallCox: @Abhinava that’s a great phrase – “CTCA – Clear thinking Concise Articulation” thanks #lrnchat
9:57:31 pm ThomasStone: Hey all folks in #lrnchat tonight… here is a laugh for you… may your Friday be more productive than this! http://bit.ly/4AgZ3u
9:57:32 pm chambo_online: RT @cammybean: I just have to say that scaffolding is a complete learning geek word. #lrnchat
9:57:35 pm kellygarber: RT @cammybean: I just have to say that scaffolding is a complete learning geek word. #lrnchat
9:57:55 pm atsc: Good afternoon to you all… #lrnchat
9:57:56 pm Quinnovator: I resemble that remark RT @cammybean: I just have to say that scaffolding is a complete learning geek word. #lrnchat
9:58:15 pm sillym0nkey: RT @ronindotca: I like community a bit stealth. don’t need stinking badges. > Who needs Mensa Card? #lrnchat (via @kelly_smith01)
9:58:26 pm chambo_online: I am a learning geek *high five* #lrnchat
9:58:30 pm Mary_a_Myers: @JaneBozarth gonna read transcript and figure out the topic…prob with jumping and not really knowing what’s going on… #lrnchat
9:58:35 pm JaneBozarth: RT @cammybean I just have to say that scaffolding is a complete learning geek word. #lrnchat
9:58:45 pm trishuhl: Nodding RT @kelly_smith01 @busynessgirl: @JaneBozarth How @ the Obama campaign community? Carefully crafted and highly successful. #lrnchat
9:58:47 pm marciamarcia: If you aren’t listed on the http://sn.im/lrnchat-list yet, pls let me know. Marcia Conner, #lrnchat founder & goofball.
9:59:03 pm mpetersell: I never scaffold #lrnchat
9:59:07 pm kelly_smith01: Judging from the RTs the term scaffolding has legs #lrnchat
9:59:18 pm elatedca: Good night from eLATED in the GTA! #lrnchat
9:59:36 pm cammybean: @Quinnovator You and all the other learning geeks here! #lrnchat
10:00:13 pm roninchef: Mason Masteka, Elearning Curriculum Dev in ME. Go get Alchemy http://al.chemy.org/ and sketch something! It’s my new favorite app. #lrnchat
10:00:14 pm cammybean: @Mary_a_Myers It had something to do with scaffolding and neighbors. #lrnchat
10:00:16 pm kellygarber: <— Freelance Instructional Designer, good night lrnchat community! #lrnchat
10:00:23 pm lrnchat: Thank you for joining us on #lrnchat. Pls remember to submit Qs & theme ideas for upcoming chats at http://sn.im/lrnchat. See u next week!

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