Transcript of #lrnchat 17 September 2009

5:30:08 pm hamtra: RT @moehlert: Pardon the awesome nature of tweets for the next 90 min as u witness the sheer spectacle that is #lrnchat! BOOM! (well said)
5:30:08 pm lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been? Q0 warm up after the rules.
5:30:21 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @moehlert: Pardon the awesome nature of my tweets for the next 90 minutes as u witness the sheer spectacle thats #lrnchat! BOOM! #lrnchat
5:30:25 pm jwillensky: RT @moehlert: Pardon the awesome nature of my tweets for 90 minutes as u witness the sheer spectacle that is #lrnchat! BOOM! < — Ditto.
5:30:31 pm kasey428: @jwillensky I take it back…you won't be missed. #lrnchat
5:30:59 pm magdaZINE: Going to be #lrnchatting for a while. Be brave, followers #lrnchat
5:31:12 pm kelly_smith01: Welcome to fellow legends #lrnchat
5:31:38 pm lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1) Introduce yourself. (We do this again at the end). Location? Focus? Fave topics?
5:31:50 pm moehlert: @lrnchat I've been AWESOME thanks for asking! #lrnchat
5:32:14 pm jsuzcampos: let the awesomeness begin #lrnchat
5:32:21 pm moehlert: @kelly_smith01 I'm a Myth thx.😉 #lrnchat
5:32:38 pm jwillensky: @kasey428 Ouch!🙂 #lrnchat
5:32:40 pm jsuzcampos: #lrnchat
5:32:45 pm JaneBozarth: Hello. ID Trainer person. Author. Doctor. Legend. Myth. Well, ok, cautionary tale and terrible warning. Raleigh. #lrnchat
5:33:04 pm jkunrein: Judy Unrein: learning designer, blogger, and cheeeeeeep voice talent. in kansas city and on the internets. #lrnchat
5:33:15 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat Kae from Colorado instructional designer, interest in virtual worlds, serious games, immersive environments and student engagement
5:33:20 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith "Have Gilbert and Rummler texts will travel" Plano, Tx #lrnchat
5:33:24 pm JaneBozarth: To the rest of my followers: I will be interacting with Urban Legends in #lrnchat for the next 90 minutes. Pardon my tweets–or add to …
5:33:30 pm magdaZINE: What I do: Concept development, writing, instruction and information design and multimedia development. Whew! #lrnchat
5:33:31 pm philharriman_ek: Greeting, all, from a #lrnchat newb. Phil Harriman, Sr. Instructional Designer w/Element K, interested in sales training and social learning
5:34:05 pm JaneBozarth: It's been a sad week here on Planet Jane, with many good celebrities dying before Thursday. #lrnchat
5:34:05 pm lrnchat: 3) When writing, complete thoughts help followers outside chat learn from you. 4) on #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm, welcome tho.
5:34:13 pm jsuzcampos: jeannette campos, #redsox nation, ISD, grad prof, small business owner. #lrnchat
5:34:16 pm kasey428: Kay Wood, Client Engagement Mgr. DC area, lover of learning, performance improvement, and knowledge sharing. #lrnchat
5:34:35 pm lrnchat: 2) [try to] stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 20 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
5:34:39 pm jsuzcampos: welcome to your first #lrnchat Phil!
5:34:47 pm jwillensky: Jason Willensky, ID gun-for-hire, Phoenix (but in FL tonight) #lrnchat
5:34:52 pm xpconcept: Steve Flowers – USCG Performance Technology Center Yorktown, VA. Design of all kinds, tech, big mouth. #lrnchat
5:35:07 pm philharriman_ek: Here's to cheeeeeep voice talent–part of my rapid development stylee is to self-narrate. #lrnchat
5:35:08 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, Walnut Creek CA, learning design mercenary, #lrnchat conspirator, general contrarian
5:35:20 pm kasey428: @philharriman_ek Welcome! #lrnchat
5:35:24 pm moehlert: @jwillensky Wassup J-Dog!? #lrnchat
5:35:29 pm lrnchat: 5) Periodically RT questions so others outside #lrnchat know what you’re talking about so they can chime in.
5:35:32 pm KoreenOlbrish: oh you know me. virtually simulated serious social gamer. run a little company, run my mouth a lot, running out of characters… #lrnchat
5:35:44 pm jkunrein: @philharriman_ek that's how i got started🙂 #lrnchat
5:35:51 pm Quinnovator: welcome to old and new #lrnchat fellow legends and troublemakers!
5:36:00 pm oxala75: craig wiggins, elearning jockey outside DC. swooping in to see about these urban legends and then stepping out to pick up Afghan. #lrnchat
5:36:02 pm JaneBozarth: Me too RT @philharriman_ek: Here's to cheeeeeep voice talent–part of my rapid development stylee is to self-narrate. #lrnchat
5:36:17 pm usablelearning: Julie Dirksen / Minneapolis / General ID geekiness and e-Learning #lrnchat
5:36:23 pm kellygarber: Good Evening – freelance ISD, myth buster #lrnchat
5:36:35 pm nickfloro: Nick Floro, delaying the 4yrs old bedtime to hang with you all. Design & Development, outside Philadelphia #lrnchat
5:36:35 pm sahana2802: Currently joining from CT, originally frm Pune, India. Instrnl designer, passionate abt learning. Rushed thru work 2 attend #lrnchat
5:36:55 pm Tim_M_Martin: In conformance with Rule #1, Tim Martin, Dude, filmmaker, ethnographer and e-learning equestrian – howdy y’all #lrnchat
5:37:01 pm moehlert: @nickfloro Way to be Nick!😉 #lrnchat
5:37:01 pm lrnchat: 6) Remember to include the #lrnchat in all posts. http://tweetchat.com, http://tweetgrid.com & http://twubs.com/lrnchat work well.
5:37:13 pm jwillensky: @moehlert Not much, my man. You seem exuberant this evening! #lrnchat
5:37:22 pm gracesteban: PDF file about myths about e-learning http://net.educause.edu/ir/library/pdf/ERM05411.pdf #lrnchat #ehthankuniyoshi
5:37:55 pm hamtra: Tracy Hamilton, a little north of Toronto, Ontario. Currently losing my mind with my LMS launching on Monday. Thank goodness it's #lrnchat
5:38:00 pm jsuzcampos: @nickfloro that's how we roll Nick, m 4 year old is on my lap! #lrnchat
5:38:04 pm lrnchat: 7) 5 min before end, tell us if you need anything from the other #lrnchat participants. Time to reintroduce yourself, too. Links welcome.
5:38:22 pm moehlert: @jwillensky I'm on fire! I hope ur not on fire, what with the flying and all #lrnchat
5:38:29 pm tgrevatt: Greetings from Ottawa, Treena G, SoMe enthusiast and new entrepreneur. I attended a fab social media breakfast (my first) this wk. #lrnchat
5:38:38 pm moehlert: RT @gracesteban: PDF file about myths about e-learning http://net.educause.edu/ir/library/pdf/ERM05411.pdf #lrnchat #ehthankuniyoshi
5:38:46 pm Quinnovator: and, feel free to play along with the official #lrnchat drinking game: http://lrnchatdrinkinggame.wikispaces.com/
5:39:21 pm magdaZINE: RT @Quinnovator: and, feel free to play along with the official #lrnchat drinking game: http://lrnchatdrinkinggame.wikispaces.com/ #lrnchat
5:39:35 pm jwillensky: @moehlert I'm not flying tonight — picking up someone who's gonna be 3.5 hours late. #lrnchat
5:39:50 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Gotta tell this story – everyone knows Thiagi right? So he is on this panel at ISPI and its on myths, legends, etc –
5:39:53 pm KatieStroudPro: This is my first #lrnchat. I'm Katie Stroud, Training Specialist at forProject, an add-on for MS Project to manage earned value.
5:40:03 pm gracesteban: This conversation is great. I'm from SF State Univ and new to #lrnchat. It's great that our speaker #ethankuniyoshi mentioned #lrnchat
5:40:16 pm alexismac: RT @Quinnovator: and, feel free to play along with the official #lrnchat drinking game: http://lrnchatdrinkinggame.wikispaces.com/
5:40:23 pm magdaZINE: I forgot to mix my #lrnchat cocktail tonight #lrnchat
5:40:28 pm moehlert: #lrnchat and all the biggies are up on stage with him. And he looks up and down the table and says with that great accent…."Its very clear
5:40:30 pm kzenovka: RT @Quinnovator: and, feel free to play along with the official #lrnchat drinking game: http://lrnchatdrinkinggame.wikispaces.com/
5:40:37 pm kasey428: @moehlert I guess I go for that drink now. #lrnchat
5:40:46 pm Tim_M_Martin: Im a fan of social healing systems and have found myself pondering when the rules will apply to online communities of learners #lrnchat
5:41:01 pm jsuzcampos: @KatieStroudPro Welcome Katie and welcome Grace @gracesteban #lrnchat
5:41:10 pm lrnchat: Q0 (our weekly #lrnchat welcome, also check out @lrn2day) What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
5:41:22 pm moehlert: #lrnchat …to me that I am the only Indian at a table full of chiefs." HUGE laughs. Then he told them how ISD was ALL messed up. Awesome
5:41:34 pm Tim_M_Martin: @moehlert #lrnchat im all ears
5:41:48 pm oxala75: @moehlert *rimshot* #lrnchat
5:42:05 pm jwillensky: @gracesteban @KatieStroudPro Welcome to the magnificence that is #lrnchat .
5:42:08 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q0 (our weekly #lrnchat welcome) What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
5:42:13 pm hamtra: I learned that trying to do Zumba is a lot harder than it looks. #lrnchat
5:42:14 pm avron: Good evening #lrnchat. Elearning software standards – letsi.org. California.
5:42:21 pm KoreenOlbrish: i believe @moehlert just told a cliffhanger in twitter…sweet #lrnchat
5:42:25 pm media1der: God grant me serenity to train who I can train, dismiss who I cannot, and wisdom to know the difference. #lrnchat
5:42:26 pm magdaZINE: This week I learned that more and amore companies are opening up to humor in training. #lrnchat
5:42:29 pm philharriman_ek: RT @gracesteban: PDF file about myths about e-learning http://net.educause.edu/ir/library/pdf/ERM05411.pdf #lrnchat Anticipating a good read
5:42:42 pm JaneBozarth: @moehlert Yes I always see Thiagi at TrainingXX annual conf. He calls me "Doctor (deep bow) Jane" . Love him.#lrnchat
5:42:42 pm kasey428: Dry Manhattan, hold the cherry. #lrnchat
5:42:52 pm hamtra: I'm searching for #lrnchat live on TweetGrid Search – http://tweetgrid.com/search?q=%23lrnchat
5:43:10 pm moehlert: @KoreenOlbrish Everybody knows you. Are you related to that blond chick? #lrnchat
5:43:14 pm magdaZINE: Does anyone here have examples of humorous yet effective training? #lrnchat
5:43:18 pm usablelearning: I learned I need to turn off my twitter feed at work. Y'all are too darn distracting #lrnchat
5:43:25 pm Quinnovator: Q0: learned today that I can get silly about branding (today: seed, feed, & weed; wait for tomorrow's 7 C's!) #lrnchat
5:43:31 pm oxala75: Q0: learned a bit about Gov 2.0 this week and last week thanks to #gov20e #lrnchat
5:43:32 pm gracesteban: 9 myths of E-learning implementation written by Lance Dublin http://tinyurl.com/mf6quc #lrnchat #ethankuniyoshi #itec830
5:43:36 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat – working on learning Blue Mars & started CCK09 open course Connectivism & Connective Knowledge
5:43:39 pm jwillensky: @kasey428 I'll have the same. #lrnchat
5:43:39 pm JaneBozarth: I learned about clouds #lrnchat
5:43:41 pm oxala75: @hamtra true. #lrnchat
5:44:00 pm gminks: RT @media1der: God grant me serenity to train who I can train, dismiss who I cannot, and wisdom to know the difference. #lrnchat
5:44:02 pm KoreenOlbrish: @moehlert shhh…i'm participating incognito #lrnchat
5:44:06 pm ethankuniyoshi: #lrnchat hey everyone! I've got a class of #itec830 grad students joining in today! Be nice…
5:44:12 pm kelly_smith01: Thiagi once made everyone learn how to pronounce his full name before starting his seminar #lrnchat
5:44:13 pm Tim_M_Martin: #lrnchat @moehlert Thiagi started that shtick in the 1990s
5:44:22 pm Alisha_830: #lrnchat. Hi folks hope everyone is having a good day. I'm new to tweeting on twitter. Hope i am using this thing right!
5:44:22 pm gminks: today I finished a class that took me forever to update. huzzah #lrnchat
5:44:32 pm jsuzcampos: @magdaZINE I like to think that I both humerous (entertatining) and effective. Bias noted. #lrnchat
5:44:36 pm kasey428: I learned (again) the importance of having a terrific team. #lrnchat
5:44:39 pm KoreenOlbrish: i learned that my 2 yo is the toughest chick i know #lrnchat
5:44:45 pm philharriman_ek: #lrnchat I re-learned today that sales training needs to be developed rapidly due to constantly shifting priorities.
5:44:51 pm AmyA_830: i learned about the practical uses of twitter #lrnchat
5:44:51 pm JaneBozarth: RT @media1der: God grant me serenity to train who I can train, dismiss who I cannot, and wisdom to know the difference. #lrnchat
5:44:56 pm tgrevatt: I learned that 'your social media strategy won't save you' http://www.slideshare.net/tag/smbottawa – great slides from Tara Hunt. #lrnchat
5:44:57 pm tasena: RT @media1der: God grant me serenity to train who I can train, dismiss who I cannot, and wisdom to know the difference. #lrnchat
5:44:57 pm jkunrein: @hamtra hang in there, Zumba ROCKS! #lrnchat
5:44:59 pm ShanshanLiu: still don't know what is this #lrnchat
5:45:01 pm moehlert: @Tim_M_Martin and it STILL works! #lrnchat
5:45:06 pm oxala75: @ethankuniyoshi hello #itec830 grad students! #lrnchat
5:45:18 pm moehlert: RT @gminks: RT @media1der: God grant me serenity to train who I can train, dismiss who I cannot, and wisdom to know the difference. #lrnchat
5:45:38 pm Quinnovator: @ethankuniyoshi nice? What's that mean? Give them no quarter! #lrnchat #itec830
5:45:42 pm gminks: I learned yesterday that my organization is huu –uu ge #lrnchat
5:45:48 pm ThomasStone: Hello all… ran a bit late tonight! Thomas Stone, from Element K, in Rochester, NY. #lrnchat
5:45:51 pm philharriman_ek: RT @usablelearning: I learned I need to turn off my twitter feed at work. Y'all are too darn distracting #lrnchat Amen!
5:45:55 pm sirlancalot: @gminks awesome isd prayer #lrnchat
5:45:57 pm jwillensky: Q0 I've learned that eLearners are unimpressed by content citing statistics from 1998. #lrnchat
5:46:00 pm jkunrein: LAWL! RT @media1der: God grant me serenity to train who I can train, dismiss who I cannot, and wisdom to know the difference. #lrnchat
5:46:17 pm magdaZINE: @jsuzcampos Scientifically, it is proven that humor is very effective in learning but a lot of my clients are reluctant to try it. #lrnchat
5:46:25 pm lrnchat: Q1) What folklore and urban legends are holding back wider use of elearning? Why? #lrnchat
5:46:36 pm JaneBozarth: @ethankuniyoshi HI everyone! Have fun! And keep up! #lrnchat
5:46:39 pm kasey428: @media1der the magic word "train." Don't we train animals? (-: #lrnchat
5:46:42 pm oxala75: @ShanshanLiu #lrnchat this is what it is: https://lrnchat.wordpress.com/about/
5:46:43 pm tgrevatt: I also learned that Twitter is faster than CNN for celebrity death pool updates, another rough week on celebs. #lrnchat
5:47:06 pm hamtra: @magdaZINE What about sarcasm how does that go over in training? #lrnchat #lrnchat
5:47:11 pm gminks: RT @kasey428: @media1der the magic word "train." Dont we train animals? (-: #lrnchat
5:47:12 pm sahana2802: Here's a typical Thiagi interview: http://bit.ly/sV23B #lrnchat
5:47:14 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What folklore and urban legends are holding back wider use of elearning? Why? #lrnchat
5:47:22 pm moehlert: RT @oxala75: @ShanshanLiu #lrnchat this is what it is: https://lrnchat.wordpress.com/about/
5:47:25 pm sirlancalot: @magdaZINE humor is the fastest icebreaker and the easiest avenue in the learning process #lrnchat
5:47:25 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What folklore and urban legends are holding back wider use of elearning? Why? #lrnchat
5:47:33 pm moehlert: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What folklore and urban legends are holding back wider use of elearning? Why? #lrnchat
5:47:38 pm jkunrein: re: Q1 – call for definitions…. are we talking about self-study, no-instructor e-learning? #lrnchat
5:47:42 pm hamtra: Q1: Boomers and older are too old to learn new tricks – MYTH #lrnchat
5:47:43 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) Did did a workshop on this! Called it mythbusters. Very fun! Biggest myth: "It's" too hard to learn. #lrnchat
5:47:46 pm oxala75: brb folks – gotta grab dinner. natives are restless. #lrnchat
5:47:48 pm gminks: sarcasm doens't translate well globally RT @hamtra: @magdaZINE What about sarcasm how does that go over in training? #lrnchat #lrnchat
5:47:54 pm jwillensky: @ethankuniyoshi Hello grad students! Don't talk to strangers on the M – Oceanview. #lrnchat #itec830
5:48:04 pm magdaZINE: Sarcasm rules!!🙂 ask my friends RT @hamtra: @magdaZINE What about sarcasm how does that go over in training? #lrnchat
5:48:15 pm sahana2802: RT@JaneBozarth : God grant me serenity to train who I can train, dismiss who I cannot, and wisdom to know the difference. #lrnchat🙂
5:48:19 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) Second runner up for biggest myth. "Technology is unreliable." #lrnchat
5:48:29 pm sfmiya: Hello! Thanks for the welcom oxala75. This is my first Twitter experience. #lrnchat
5:48:31 pm philharriman_ek: #lrnchat I also learned to turn of the twitter notification sound in TweetDeck during #lrnchat
5:48:32 pm moehlert: @lrnchat How about the myth that you can sell "learning:? #lrnchat
5:48:34 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q1. "homework" helps improve learning outcomes😉 #lrnchat
5:48:34 pm kasey428: #lrnchat The late 90s and the experience most had with elearning, turned off the business sector
5:48:39 pm Quinnovator: Q1: that 'games' = tarted up quiz shows; that crapid elearning means just doing it fast; that icebreakers are/n't useful; … #lrnchat
5:48:46 pm usablelearning: Q1) My favorite ISD urban legend is that fake Dale's cone pyramid — the "you remember 10% of what you read…" one #lrnchat
5:48:51 pm kzenovka: Q1) What folklore and urban legends are holding back wider use of elearning? It's too impersonal. #lrnchat
5:48:52 pm KatieStroudPro: In the case where learning is a source of revenue, there is a fear that elearning will reduce that revenue stream.#lrnchat
5:48:55 pm kellygarber: Q1 – All you learn in elearning is how to click "Next". Why, b/c too many are just that. #lrnchat
5:48:55 pm kasberry14: hello #lrnchat from san francisco grad discussion
5:49:01 pm magdaZINE: @hamtra I think anything that causes an emotional reaction helps you learn. #lrnchat
5:49:05 pm hamtra: @gminks True, I forget globally all the time, since I'm only responsible for one location. #lrnchat
5:49:06 pm sahana2802: moehlertRT @lrnchat: Q1) What folklore and urban legends are holding back wider use of elearning? Why? #lrnchat
5:49:27 pm Quinnovator: Q1: … that you can create learning; that if you build it, they will come; that an LMS is the answer…#lrnchat
5:49:29 pm gminks: RT @Quinnovator: Q1: that games = tarted up quiz shows; crapid elearning means doing it fast; that icebreakers are/nt useful; … #lrnchat
5:49:30 pm moehlert: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q1. "homework" helps improve learning outcomes😉 #lrnchat Can I get a AMEN!?
5:49:35 pm xpconcept: Q1) Big Myths: eLearning is lightning in a bottle on its own. Integration and big picture aren't required. EL can do it all. #lrnchat
5:49:44 pm philharriman_ek: #lrnchat Is it an urban legend that all e-learning sucks? My goal is to writing modules that I can bear to take myself.
5:49:52 pm sfmiya: #lrnchat People try to sell learning all the time. We have "people" who try to sell "things" to our schools all the time with huge promises
5:49:52 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @usablelearning: Q1) My favorite ISD urban legend is that fake Dales cone pyramid — the "you remember 10% of what you read…" #lrnchat
5:49:53 pm jkunrein: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What folklore and urban legends are holding back wider use of elearning? Why? #lrnchat
5:49:57 pm gminks: @hamtra sarcasm also doesn't work w literal thinkers, like ppl on the autism spectrum #lrnchat
5:50:00 pm sirlancalot: the ever-changing e-learning stage leaves traditionalists hesitant to jump in #lrnchat
5:50:10 pm magdaZINE: RT @usablelearning: Q1) My favorite ISD urban legend is that fake Dales cone pyramid — the "you remember 10% of what you read…" #lrnchat
5:50:12 pm gminks: AMEN RT @moehlert: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q1. "homework" helps improve learning outcomes😉 #lrnchat Can I get a AMEN!? #lrnchat
5:50:16 pm JaneBozarth: Q1 Elearning is boring (…but the classroom is not?) #lrnchat
5:50:24 pm kasey428: "Adults don't need computer games to learn what they need to know." #lrnchat
5:50:29 pm hamtra: RT @philharriman_ek: My goal is to writing modules that I can bear to take myself. #lrnchat
5:50:33 pm magdaZINE: That makes sense RT @gminks: @hamtra sarcasm also doesnt work w literal thinkers, like ppl on the autism spectrum #lrnchat
5:50:35 pm jkunrein: Q1) top myth I fight against: that putting content on a computer makes it "interactive" #lrnchat
5:50:40 pm JaneBozarth: Q1 That learners need (or even care about) face to face instruction #lrnchat
5:50:44 pm agebavi: I learned that learning folks come from all walks of life #lrnchat
5:50:47 pm kasey428: @sirlancalot Howdy, compatriot! #lrnchat
5:50:50 pm gminks: Q1) that ADDIE is a prescriptive process. That's right. I said *ADDIE* #lrnchat
5:50:55 pm ShanshanLiu: @moehlert gracias :)) #lrnchat
5:51:10 pm Quinnovator: RT @usablelearning: Q1) favorite ISD urban legend is that fake Dale's cone pyramid – the "you remember 10% of what you read…" one #lrnchat
5:51:18 pm sfmiya: #lrnchat People also sell learning in after school programs, look at Kumon, Learning Center, Excel, etc.
5:51:18 pm sirlancalot: @KoreenOlbrish the clients we work with discourages homework assignments.. I guess that will never change, from 1st grade on up #lrnchat
5:51:18 pm Tim_M_Martin: @Quinnovator #lrnchat were LMSs the means to an end or a method of stalling – I know where I stand. The myth is fake.
5:51:18 pm kasey428: RT @sirlancalot: the ever-changing e-learning stage leaves traditionalists hesitant to jump in #lrnchat
5:51:19 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat Q1 – holding back , – F2F classes are always superior learning environments compared to online.
5:51:22 pm hjarche: Q1) Bloom's taxonomy, learning styles, learning management, educational outcomes … nuff said #lrnchat
5:51:26 pm KoreenOlbrish: @usablelearning omg, thanks for bringing up the 10%, 20%, blah blah…so many people still perpetuate that! #lrnchat
5:51:35 pm moehlert: @KoreenOlbrish Here is the definitive myth-busting link on that http://tinyurl.com/2nlvcy #lrnchat
5:51:36 pm jsuzcampos: "I really need interact with my learners" … you can't do that through a computer. #lrnchat
5:51:51 pm magdaZINE: Q1) eLearning myth: It's expensive #lrnchat
5:52:01 pm moehlert: RT @gminks: Q1) that ADDIE is a prescriptive process. That's right. I said *ADDIE* #lrnchat DRINK!
5:52:06 pm sirlancalot: @kasey428 hey barrel buddy #lrnchat
5:52:11 pm kellygarber: Q1 that rapid tools eliminate the need for an ISD (yes, self serving…) #lrnchat
5:52:22 pm jwillensky: Q1 They need the F2F in the training room as a promised "vacation" from regular work. #lrnchat
5:52:26 pm KoreenOlbrish: @gminks dammit! Drink! so early to the ADDIE😉 #lrnchat
5:52:35 pm magdaZINE: Bottoms up! RT @moehlert: RT @gminks: Q1) that ADDIE is a prescriptive process. Thats right. I said *ADDIE* #lrnchat DRINK! #lrnchat
5:52:37 pm kasey428: To learn people need the interaction with an instructor. (or maybe it is the other way around.) #lrnchat
5:52:39 pm gminks: @jsuzcampos wait — we aren't interacting? through the computer? #lrnchat
5:52:48 pm kelly_smith01: I found that "funny" is sometimes a "few years behind" or just different than current funny in USA #lrnchat
5:52:49 pm jsuzcampos: I also hear, "We can't guarantee that our learners have access to the internet." #lrnchat
5:52:53 pm hamtra: Q1: It's impossible to use twitter effectively for learning. Thanks for proving that completely wrong every week everyone #lrnchat
5:53:01 pm gminks: @KoreenOlbrish myahahah (btw nice to see the real you!!)🙂 #lrnchat
5:53:01 pm jkunrein: That doesn't make you wrong… RT @kellygarber: Q1 that rapid tools eliminate the need for an ISD (yes, self serving…) #lrnchat
5:53:10 pm philharriman_ek: RT @magdaZINE: Q1) eLearning myth: It's expensive #lrnchat Right! Another vote for rapid development.
5:53:17 pm Quinnovator: RT @xpconcept: Q1) Big Myths: eLearning is lightning in bottle on its own; Integration & big picture aren't required. can do it all #lrnchat
5:53:20 pm jsuzcampos: @gminks that's what my clients say (that's the myth) .. not me talking! #lrnchat
5:53:24 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @hamtra: Q1: Its impossible to use twitter effectively for learning. Thnks for proving that completely wrong every week everyone #lrnchat
5:53:25 pm JaneBozarth: @jsuzcampos …but they can all download porn and shop on ebay… #lrnchat
5:53:34 pm jwillensky: RT @jkunrein: Q1) top myth I fight against: that putting content on a computer makes it "interactive" #lrnchat
5:53:35 pm xpconcept: Q1) Myth: Build once let go on the conveyor belt to work magic on its own. Forget about human interaction. Fire and forget works. #lrnchat
5:53:42 pm KavisMusings: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @media1der: God grant me serenity 2 train who I cn train, dismiss who I cnt, & wisdom 2 know the difference. #lrnchat
5:53:43 pm ShanshanLiu: my friend had problem of posting her talk on this #lrnchat everything typed right but nothing showed😦
5:53:46 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat @jkunrein – agreed really have to watch what people mean by interactive, multimedia and immersive.
5:54:07 pm Quinnovator: @gminks Drink (sigh🙂 #lrnchat
5:54:11 pm gminks: @jsuzcampos ok I was confused.🙂 #lrnchat
5:54:12 pm KoreenOlbrish: @gminks actually, the blonde is the real me…i just thought I'd mix it up for awhile😉 #lrnchat
5:54:15 pm magdaZINE: Too good to not retweet RT @JaneBozarth: @jsuzcampos …but they can all download porn and shop on ebay… #lrnchat
5:54:17 pm JaneBozarth: That we can't be sure they 'understand" what we "taught" them #lrnchat
5:54:22 pm sfmiya: #lrnchat I agree, that not all learners have access to the internet. The digital divide.
5:54:27 pm kelly_smith01: Urban Legend?: If I flush an e-learning lesson down the commode it will survive for years in the sewer system? #lrnchat #lrnchat
5:54:28 pm sirlancalot: contsructing new addie model, a-ask them what to do, d-dig for old copy, d- delete old name, i- insert new name, e- entertain #lrnchat
5:54:42 pm gminks: maybe we don't understand "interactive" ….RT @JaneBozarth: @jsuzcampos …but they can all download porn and shop on ebay… #lrnchat
5:54:48 pm xpconcept: Q1) ISDs need to learn / master PhotoShop (substitute another technology tool) to be successful. #lrnchat
5:55:08 pm sirlancalot: constructing new addie model, a-ask them what to do, d-dig for old copy, d- delete old name, i- insert new name, e- entertain #lrnchat
5:55:12 pm gminks: RT @jwillensky: RT @jkunrein: Q1) top myth I fight against: that putting content on a computer makes it "interactive" #lrnchat
5:55:13 pm jsuzcampos: @JaneBozarth and don't forget, search for new jobs all day online …. #lrnchat
5:55:14 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q1. LMSs track learning outcomes. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA #lrnchat
5:55:15 pm moehlert: RT @hamtra: Q1: It's impossible 2 use twitter effectively 4 learning. Thanks 4 proving that completely wrong every week everyone #lrnchat
5:55:23 pm sahana2802: RT @hamtra Q1: It's impossible to use twitter effectively for learning.Thanks for proving tht completely wrong every week everyone #lrnchat
5:55:27 pm kelly_smith01: RT @sirlancalot:new addie model, a-ask them what to do, d-dig for old copy, d- delete old name, i- insert new name, e- entertain #lrnchat
5:55:40 pm usablelearning: RT Myth: @kellygarber Q1 that rapid tools eliminate the need for an ISD #lrnchat < oh hell yeah!
5:55:43 pm jkunrein: RT @sirlancalot: new addie model: a-ask them what to do, d-dig for old copy, d- delete old name, i- insert new name, e- entertain #lrnchat
5:55:49 pm Quinnovator: Q1: that pre/post-test is a good evaluation method! #lrnchat
5:56:00 pm kasey428: Today there are people (u guys) who know how to make it work & the new tools can make e-delivery more engaging. How do we convince? #lrnchat
5:56:05 pm JaneBozarth: RT RT RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q1. LMSs track learning outcomes. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA #lrnchat
5:56:07 pm jsuzcampos: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q1. LMSs track learning outcomes. "I also get . BlackBoard will save us all" #lrnchat
5:56:08 pm Tim_M_Martin: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q1. that "LMSs track learning outcomes. " was ever the goal of an LMS #lrnchat
5:56:15 pm moehlert: @kelly_smith01 #lrnchat It will actually grow into an LMS
5:56:15 pm bschlenker: Myth: Only instructional designers can create effective eLearning #lrnchat
5:56:29 pm moehlert: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q1. LMSs track learning outcomes. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA #lrnchat
5:56:31 pm sirlancalot: @usablelearning think even certain rapid tools need a personalization factor #lrnchat
5:56:35 pm JaneBozarth: @jsuzcampos Right! And "do" facebook. #lrnchat
5:56:49 pm KoreenOlbrish: wait…what? LOL RT @bschlenker: Myth: Only instructional designers can create effective eLearning #lrnchat
5:56:58 pm magdaZINE: RT @bschlenker: Myth: Only instructional designers can create effective eLearning #lrnchat
5:57:06 pm tgrevatt: Q1 that folks are too old for elearning, won't work for our audience. Age not the issue, attitude is. #lrnchat
5:57:11 pm kelly_smith01: System compatibility at new or remote or international locations #lrnchat
5:57:25 pm philharriman_ek: RT @JaneBozarth: RT RT RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q1. LMSs track learning outcomes. #lrnchat Corollary: That high assessment scores prove learning.
5:57:30 pm Erick1970: @bschlenker Hasn't some of the most ineffective elearning has been created by instructional designers? #lrnchat
5:57:34 pm Quinnovator: we should put #lrnchat into an LMS, right?
5:57:37 pm jsuzcampos: Ye! RT @tgrevatt: Q1 that folks are too old for elearning, won't work for our audience. Age not the issue, attitude is. #lrnchat
5:57:42 pm _Kavi: RT @sahana2802: Here's a typical Thiagi interview: http://bit.ly/sV23B #lrnchat
5:57:44 pm sirlancalot: @bschlenker gotta back this myth, it adds to our job security, lol #lrnchat
5:57:44 pm jkunrein: Gasp! RT @bschlenker: Myth: Only instructional designers can create effective eLearning #lrnchat
5:57:50 pm xpconcept: @Quinnovator – got into discussion today with program office (post test – L2 eval as measure of short term recall). Bad measure:( #lrnchat
5:57:53 pm kasey428: RT @bschlenker: Myth: Only instructional designers can create effective eLearning /certainly not programmers #lrnchat
5:58:12 pm Tim_M_Martin: @bschlenker: we are all do it #lrnchat
5:58:14 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat@ jsuzcampos "Technology is unreliable." as some1 who facilitates 15 wk courses sometimes it is but don't let them use it as excuse
5:58:19 pm Quinnovator: Q1: urban legend: the digital native/digital immigrant distinction #lrnchat
5:58:20 pm kasey428: RT @sirlancalot: @bschlenker gotta back this myth, it adds to our job security, lol #lrnchat
5:58:20 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Q1 That classrooms are NOT all about imposing power structures on students. That they r about (holding sides laffing) learning….
5:58:25 pm MariaOD: RT @bschlenker Myth: Only instructional designers can create effective eLearning #lrnchat
5:58:26 pm Erick1970: @Quinnovator Is an LMS even necessary? #lrnchat
5:58:30 pm gminks: RT @Erick1970: @bschlenker Hasnt some of the most ineffective elearning has been created by instructional designers? #lrnchat
5:58:35 pm mkfrie: What – no mention of SCORM urban legends yet? #lrnchat
5:58:41 pm JaneBozarth: Q1 That if I put this PPT show into [insert name of authoring/converter tool], it will come out a dazzling interactive course #lrnchat
5:58:44 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q1. if you build it, deliver it, and track it, then they learned. #lrnchat
5:58:45 pm moehlert: @Quinnovator Won' be learning if we don't! #lrnchat
5:58:47 pm Quinnovator: Q1: urban legend: treat generations differently #lrnchat
5:58:50 pm gminks: YES YES YES RT @Quinnovator: Q1: urban legend: the digital native/digital immigrant distinction #lrnchat
5:59:07 pm moehlert: RT @MariaOD: RT @bschlenker Myth: Only instructional designers can create effective eLearning #lrnchat
5:59:20 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: Q1: urban legend: treat generations differently #lrnchat
5:59:21 pm Quinnovator: Q1: urban legend/myth: that you should adapt your learning design on the basis of learning styles #lrnchat
5:59:27 pm JaneBozarth: RT @Quinnovator: Q1: urban legend: treat generations differently #lrnchat
5:59:31 pm gminks: hahaha RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q1. if you build it, deliver it, and track it, then they learned. #lrnchat
5:59:34 pm kasey428: @gminks There IDs who don't like elearning. I work with a few. #lrnchat
5:59:47 pm xpconcept: @mkfrie myth: sharable content😛 #lrnchat
5:59:58 pm JaneBozarth: I'll have what @gminks is having #lrnchat
6:00:06 pm jkunrein: RT @gminks: hahaha RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q1. if you build it, deliver it, and track it, then they learned. #lrnchat
6:00:13 pm KoreenOlbrish: Drink! RT @Quinnovator: Q1: urban legend/myth: that you should adapt your learning design on the basis of learning styles #lrnchat
6:00:26 pm Quinnovator: @xpconcept yup, don't bother designing it if you don't already know they need it, just evaluate if they can do afterward! #lrnchat
6:00:27 pm magdaZINE: Maybe they don't know how to design for it RT @kasey428: @gminks There IDs who dont like elearning. I work with a few. #lrnchat
6:00:29 pm gminks: @kasey428 me too. And IDs who treat SMEs like they are stupid. #lrnchat
6:00:31 pm sirlancalot: @KoreenOlbrish not necessarily, still need a hungry audience… without enticing the learner, learning can't take place #lrnchat
6:00:34 pm kasey428: @Quinnovator It should be fun for all learning styles. Or at least challenging enough to hold their attention. #lrnchat
6:00:42 pm Quinnovator: RT @tgrevatt: Q1 that folks are too old for elearning, won't work for our audience. Age not the issue, attitude is. #lrnchat
6:00:49 pm JaneBozarth: @gminks @KoreenOlbrish If they ""complete" it, they have learned #lrnchat
6:00:50 pm kelly_smith01: U Legend; Just transfer an ILT to e-learn. Just copy & past into templates may wordsmith and insert clip art & quiz #lrnchat
6:00:55 pm xpconcept: If learning happens in an organization and an LMS didn't hear it, did it actually happen? #lrnchat
6:00:55 pm jkunrein: @mkfrie here you go… Q1) Myth: that SCORM makes content reusable #lrnchat
6:01:00 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat @tgrevatt work w/ boomers if they have anxiety just have 2 make them feel comfortable but we do have alot of digital hippies here.
6:01:10 pm gminks: @JaneBozarth I'm having: I finished a huge work project early. woo hoo!!! #lrnchat
6:01:12 pm lrnchat: Just joining us and not sure what's the question? You can always check @lrnchat #lrnchat
6:01:20 pm gminks: RT @xpconcept: If learning happens in an organization and an LMS didnt hear it, did it actually happen? #lrnchat
6:01:22 pm jsuzcampos: just had a faculty member tell me "i'm putting all my lecture notes in Word so I'll be ready to teach online." #lrnchat
6:01:23 pm Tim_M_Martin: #lrnchat Q1 Compiling PPT deck into flash files has any real purpose for learners.
6:01:24 pm reward75: @bschlenker It's a myth. Game Designers have been doing it for years #lrnchat
6:01:28 pm kellygarber: Q1: Myth – you can convert all your ILT to elearning and save TONS of money #lrnchat
6:01:30 pm Quinnovator: @Erick1970 necessary, no; useful, sometimes #lrnchat
6:01:31 pm magdaZINE: RT @jkunrein: @mkfrie here you go… Q1) Myth: that SCORM makes content reusable #lrnchat
6:01:38 pm kasey428: RT @xpconcept: If learning happens in an organization and an LMS didnt hear it, did it actually happen? LOL #lrnchat
6:01:41 pm Quinnovator: @mkfrie you said SCORM, drink! #lrnchat
6:01:43 pm usablelearning: RT @Quinnovator Q1: urban legend: treat generations differently #lrnchat
6:01:52 pm MariaOD: @Quinnovator help me with the distinction; digital natives, digital pioneers, digital immigrants, how bout digital refugees!!! #lrnchat
6:02:00 pm roninchef: Running late tonight for #lrnchat. I will be ther soon. Keep my seat warm.
6:02:11 pm JaneBozarth: RT @ jsuzcampos: just had a faculty member tell me "i'm putting all my lecture notes in Word so I'll be ready to teach online." #lrnchat
6:02:14 pm sirlancalot: @gminks can't treat them like their stupid… but can't treat them like they're the quarter backs either, thin line btwn both #lrnchat
6:02:25 pm gminks: RT @kellygarber: Q1: Myth – you can convert all your ILT to elearning and save TONS of money #lrnchat
6:02:40 pm jkunrein: @roninchef saving you a seat! #lrnchat
6:02:44 pm magdaZINE: Q1) Myth: PowerPoint to Articulate is automatically "elearning" #lrnchat
6:02:47 pm Quinnovator: @kasey428 read Willingham: use the right media for the message. Help different styles adapt #lrnchat
6:02:50 pm sahana2802: JaneBozarth @gminks @KoreenOlbrish If they ""complete" it, they have learned #lrnchat probably the biggest myth
6:02:54 pm hamtra: Some of these are hilarious. #lrnchat
6:03:16 pm usablelearning: Q1) ISD myth: you need to display behavioral learning objectives at the beginning of each course. #lrnchat
6:03:23 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @sahana2802: JaneBozarth @gminks @KoreenOlbrish If they ""complete" it, they have learned #lrnchat probably the biggest myth #lrnchat
6:03:28 pm jsuzcampos: RT @magdaZINE: Q1) Myth: PowerPoint to Articulate is automatically "elearning" or Word to Word to PowerPoint to PowerPoint …. #lrnchat
6:03:35 pm xpconcept: Q1: Myth – the more content we have in our library the better. #lrnchat
6:03:42 pm wlonline: #lrnchat Hi everyone and just in
6:03:45 pm kasey428: If they printed their certificate, they learned. #lrnchat
6:03:48 pm ThomasStone: exactly the issue w/informal RT @xpconcept: If learning happens in an organization and LMS didn't hear it, did it actually happen? #lrnchat
6:03:48 pm moehlert: @hamtra Someone should collect all these – oh wait, we are!🙂 #lrnchat
6:03:48 pm magdaZINE: We need to make a poster of all the eLearning myths🙂 RT @hamtra: Some of these are hilarious. #lrnchat
6:03:56 pm lmockford: RT @gminks RT @jwillensky: RT @jkunrein: Q1) top myth I fight against: that putting content on a computer makes it "interactive" #lrnchat
6:04:00 pm jkunrein: Word. RT @usablelearning: Q1) ISD myth: you need to display behavioral learning objectives at the beginning of each course. #lrnchat
6:04:02 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat to digital immigrant/native – we add digital hippies, gadget guys/gals, V generation, social media butterflies & gamers.
6:04:12 pm jwillensky: RT @magdaZINE: Q1) Myth: PowerPoint to Articulate is automatically "elearning" #lrnchat
6:04:27 pm mkfrie: But more content is better – just maybe not better for learning🙂 #lrnchat
6:04:29 pm oxala75: @usablelearning preach it #lrnchat
6:04:32 pm wlonline: #lrnchat Lots of elearning is shovelware but they think it's elearning
6:04:35 pm hamtra: If you buy it instead of make it, it must be better. Look how much you spent on it! #lrnchat
6:04:37 pm Quinnovator: @MariaOD *some* argue that youth are digital natives, older folks (e.g. me) are 'immigrants' (started programming in '75 or so) #lrnchat
6:04:50 pm sirlancalot: @kelly_smith01 clip art will be the fall of elearning as power point poses as the trojan horse of cutting edge technology #lrnchat
6:04:57 pm kasey428: The LMS shows he went into course…but he never left. #lrnchat
6:05:01 pm reneestephen: RT @magdaZINE: Q1) Myth: PowerPoint to Articulate is automatically "elearning" #lrnchat
6:05:13 pm lmockford: RT @MariaOD RT @bschlenker Myth: Only instructional designers can create effective eLearning #lrnchat
6:05:19 pm JaneBozarth: Ha! RT @kasey428: The LMS shows he went into course…but he never left. #lrnchat
6:05:20 pm bschlenker: @bschlenker It's a myth. Game Designers have been doing it for years #lrnchat (via @reward75)
6:05:24 pm Erick1970: *groan* RT @usablelearning: Q1) ISD myth: you need to display behavioral learning objectives at the beginning of each course. #lrnchat
6:05:25 pm Quinnovator: (like refugees🙂 RT @MariaOD: help me with distinction; digital: natives, pioneers, immigrants, how bout digital refugees!!! #lrnchat
6:05:31 pm xpconcept: Myth: CTRL-C, CTRL-V are good design moves. #lrnchat
6:05:41 pm gminks: @Quinnovator exactly – I've played video games my whole life. No one remembers gen x #lrnchat
6:05:41 pm lmockford: RT @gminks YES YES YES RT @Quinnovator: Q1: urban legend: the digital native/digital immigrant distinction #lrnchat
6:05:48 pm Quinnovator: YES! RT @usablelearning: Q1) ISD myth: you need to display behavioral learning objectives at the beginning of each course. #lrnchat
6:05:57 pm kelly_smith01: Stamp out clip art #lrnchat
6:06:04 pm mkfrie: Myth – One LMS actually helps a company train their staff better than another LMS? #lrnchat
6:06:16 pm Quinnovator: Q1: if they rated it highly, they learned! #lrnchat
6:06:19 pm philharriman_ek: RT @mkfrie: But more content is better – just maybe not better for learning #lrnchat — esp. if that's what you're selling …
6:06:19 pm gminks: sounds like a comic book story line —- RT @kasey428: The LMS shows he went into course…but he never left. #lrnchat
6:06:21 pm JaneBozarth: RT @usablelearning: Q1) ISD myth: you need to display behavioral learning objectives at the beginning of each course. #lrnchat
6:06:25 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @usablelearning: Q1) ISD myth: you need to display behavioral learning objectives at the beginning of each course. #lrnchat
6:06:28 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Maybe we should make one of these for this chat topic http://tinyurl.com/l9npan
6:06:40 pm learnITonline: HUGE RT @MariaOD: RT @bschlenker Myth: Only instructional designers can create effective eLearning #lrnchat
6:06:42 pm LMSGuru: #lrnchat Will someone be compiling these so we can vote on them? #topten anyone?
6:06:47 pm kasey428: The LMS shows she left the course, but she never logged in. What's wrong w/the LMS? #lrnchat
6:06:58 pm jkunrein: @mkfrie The LMS isn't the main event… but it sure can determine how easy it is to buy tickets. #lrnchat
6:07:02 pm hamtra: @mkfrie Right. It's not which LMS is better, it's which one can you afford. #lrnchat
6:07:03 pm kellygarber: Q1: Myth – SCORM is a universal standard #lrnchat
6:07:18 pm Erick1970: Q1: Myth: If the liked the elearning, they learned from it. #lrnchat
6:07:19 pm kelly_smith01: "you (don't) need to display behavioral learning objectives at the beginning of each course" I think I am coming around on this #lrnchat
6:07:23 pm lmockford: RT @gminks RT @kellygarber: Q1: Myth – you can convert all your ILT to elearning and save TONS of money #lrnchat
6:07:25 pm Quinnovator: LOL! RT @mkfrie: Myth – One LMS actually helps a company train their staff better than another LMS? #lrnchat
6:07:27 pm jsuzcampos: @JaneBozarth The LMS is like Hotel Californa … you can check out anytime you want but you can never leave. #lrnchat
6:07:36 pm jkunrein: @kellygarber Wait, which SCORM?😉 #lrnchat
6:07:40 pm gminks: I vote for all of them. RT @LMSGuru: #lrnchat Will someone be compiling these so we can vote on them? #topten anyone? #lrnchat
6:07:59 pm magdaZINE: Q1) eLearning Myth: The audio narration must repeat *every* *single* *word* on the screen #lrnchat
6:08:03 pm kasey428: Learners can cheat on the quiz. Like they don't in a classroom. #lrnchat
6:08:23 pm kelly_smith01: Ask the union rep on all voting issues #lrnchat
6:08:24 pm Tim_M_Martin: Q1) all ISD #lrnchat That provides a process for felling like you designed something without the evidence of someone learning.
6:08:32 pm wlonline: RT @gminks: I vote for all of them. RT @LMSGuru: #lrnchat Will someone be compiling these so we can vote on them? #topten anyone? #lrnchat
6:08:44 pm MarkMorganMA: Q1 Using an SAP LMS is necessary – #lrnchat
6:08:46 pm tgrevatt: Q1 Myth – that smile sheets are meaningful feedback on course quality #lrnchat
6:08:50 pm jkunrein: @magdaZINE Good one! It's a myth that that's even OKAY to do. Ever. #lrnchat
6:08:51 pm kasey428: RT @magdaZINE: Q1) eLearning Myth: The audio narration must repeat *every* *single* *word* on the screen/gag me #lrnchat
6:08:57 pm Quinnovator: you guys are rocking #lrnchat tonite, I'm practically snorting beer out my nose! (and that's not recommended, nor in)
6:09:11 pm xpconcept: Q1) Myth: Given the tools, anyone can do it well. #lrnchat
6:09:15 pm Tim_M_Martin: RT @Quinnovator: LOL! RT @mkfrie: Myth – One LMS actually helps a company train their staff better than another LMS? #lrnchat
6:09:24 pm gminks: RT @kasey428: RT @magdaZINE: Q1) eLearning Myth: The audio narration must repeat *every* *single* *word* on the screen/gag me #lrnchat
6:09:27 pm kelly_smith01: I am going to past this in a Word document and show it to my next client/boss – #lrnchat
6:09:32 pm usablelearning: RT OMG yes! @magdaZINE Q1) eLearning Myth: The audio narration must repeat *every* *single* *word* on the screen #lrnchat
6:09:34 pm simon_puleo: bandwidth #lrnchat
6:09:49 pm jwillensky: Q1 Myth — Learners need a magisterial instructor in front of them in a room to "get it." #lrnchat
6:09:51 pm jsuzcampos: RT @xpconcept: Q1) Myth: Given the tools, anyone can do it well. #lrnchat
6:09:52 pm hamtra: A timed online quiz/test means, they won't use their text book to find the answer. Wrong – just flip through the pages faster #lrnchat
6:10:07 pm tgrevatt: Arghhh, my pet hate! RT @magdaZINE: Q1) eLearning Myth: The audio narration must repeat *every* *single* *word* on the screen #lrnchat
6:10:11 pm LMSGuru: #lrnchat That elearning has no chance of building competencies (myth)
6:10:13 pm Quinnovator: Q1: we could never use *humor* in such a serious topic #lrnchat
6:10:32 pm kellygarber: Q1: Myth – forced navigation means the learner will not skip a word #lrnchat
6:10:32 pm Quinnovator: @kelly_smith01 how about your current boss? #lrnchat
6:10:35 pm JaneBozarth: @kelly_smith01 @LMSGuru I am checking the manual for union rules on voting. It isn't online so hang on while I thumb through pages #lrnchat
6:10:37 pm oxala75: @Quinnovator seriously🙂 i'm just now catching up. this is a pretty productive topic. #lrnchat
6:10:37 pm philharriman_ek: RT @tgrevatt: Q1 Myth – that smile sheets are meaningful feedback on course quality #lrnchat BUT, what does it say if you get poor scores?
6:10:53 pm kellygarber: RT @Quinnovator: Q1: we could never use *humor* in such a serious topic #lrnchat
6:11:01 pm jkunrein: RT @xpconcept: Q1) Myth: Given the tools, anyone can do it well. (and the reverse: you must have the best tools to do it well) #lrnchat
6:11:06 pm magdaZINE: YES!! RT @Quinnovator: Q1: we could never use *humor* in such a serious topic #lrnchat
6:11:06 pm lrnchat: Q2) How can we debunk myths and legends to improve elearning practice? #lrnchat
6:11:06 pm moehlert: @hamtra Or send each other screencaps😉 Not that I would EVER do that…. #lrnchat
6:11:06 pm simon_puleo: Myth – Bandwidth is the contstraing for immersive environments #lrnchat
6:11:07 pm Erick1970: RT @kellygarber: Q1: Myth – forced navigation means the learner will not skip a word #lrnchat
6:11:08 pm mkfrie: Myth – If I insert a few matching games, then the course will be more interesting, and people will be more engaged. #lrnchat
6:11:10 pm kasey428: She is still on dialup. Her bandwidth can't handle the PowerPoint with too many graphics. #lrnchat
6:11:15 pm JaneBozarth: @kellygarber Really. Learner leaves "live" class to take a 3 minute call, we don't say she's not 'complete' #lrnchat
6:11:17 pm hjarche: It's a myth that you need to be an instructional designer to create good learning materials; witness http://commoncraft.com #lrnchat
6:11:20 pm Tim_M_Martin: @hamtra #lrnchat Q1 any ISD that pits Designers against Learners
6:11:40 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @mkfrie: Myth – If I insert a few matching games, then the course will be more interesting, and people will be more engaged. #lrnchat
6:11:46 pm LMSGuru: make it a checklist @kelly_smith01 kelly_smith01 I am going to past this in a Word document and show it to my next client/boss #lrnchat
6:11:53 pm xpconcept: Q1) Myth: distance learning is only good for knowledge foundations, doesn't help with anything else. #lrnchat
6:11:59 pm jkunrein: @hjarche Common Craft gives me instructional design envy :E #lrnchat
6:12:00 pm kasey428: I will have the IT manager create something. It doesn't take much to create something web-based. #lrnchat
6:12:09 pm JaneBozarth: @kelly_smith01 Go to http://www.tweetgrid.com/irc & type in #lrrnchat for an easy way to do that #lrnchat
6:12:17 pm sahana2802: RT @lrnchat Q2) How can we debunk myths and legends to improve elearning practice? #lrnchat
6:12:20 pm hamtra: (Side note…I'm finding tweetchat is helping me to keep up a little better than tweetdeck for this) #lrnchat
6:12:20 pm magdaZINE: Posting this for other followers. ideas? RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can we debunk myths and legends to improve elearning practice? #lrnchat
6:12:21 pm jsuzcampos: "elearning is just hocus-pocus" and "i don't have to be a nerd like you to know about learning" (last week's quote of the day) #lrnchat
6:12:22 pm gminks: Q1 anyone can do effective training with live meeting #lrnchat
6:12:24 pm moehlert: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can we debunk myths and legends to improve elearning practice? #lrnchat
6:12:32 pm KoreenOlbrish: I guess we're supposed to be moving on to Q2, but Q1 is so much fun😉 #lrnchat
6:12:36 pm tgrevatt: @philharriman_ek Ahh, even more reason to blame the design of the happy sheet, lol #lrnchat
6:12:37 pm jwillensky: Q1 Myth- In eLearning, you can't assess with anything more complex than multiple choice or true/false. #lrnchat
6:12:38 pm Quinnovator: Q1: I'm a designer, so I can do: graphics|prose|programming|audio|UI #lrnchat
6:12:42 pm xpconcept: @Tim_M_Martin – that's not a myth… Many ISDs I know seem to pit themselves vs. learners. #lrnchat
6:12:46 pm kasey428: Oh, let's add a Jeopardy game. That will keep 'em hooked. #lrnchat
6:12:47 pm oxala75: @kasey428 aaaaaaaaargh. too true (that it is said, not that it is actually true) #lrnchat
6:12:50 pm kellygarber: Q2: I knew that Q1 was too easy and Q2 was going to hurt my brain … #lrnchat
6:12:51 pm kelly_smith01: Quinnovator @kelly_smith01 how about your current boss? That's an issue don't have one. Looking. Tonight is career training #lrnchat
6:12:52 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can we debunk myths and legends to improve elearning practice? #lrnchat
6:13:07 pm JaneBozarth: I bet half the people who use words like "bandwidth" and "firewall" could not define them if we held a contetst with cash prizes. #lrnchat
6:13:12 pm jsuzcampos: Q2) Hey @kasey428 @JaneBozarth … tell 'em about the balloons! #lrnchat
6:13:13 pm Erick1970: @KoreenOlbrish @mkfrie I thought a few matching games were required. *sarcasm* #lrnchat
6:13:16 pm moehlert: @lrnchat #lrnchat Tar and feather? Or DO SOME DAMN RESEARCH AND TALK ABOUT IT. A LOT.
6:13:21 pm jkunrein: RT @lrnchat Q2) How can we debunk myths and legends to improve elearning practice? #lrnchat
6:13:26 pm gminks: recording engineers doing a brain dump and offering it as elearning is effective #lrnchat
6:13:27 pm hjarche: .@jkunrein give me a good designer instead of an ID any day – the learning part is easy, design is hard #lrnchat
6:13:29 pm usablelearning: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can we debunk myths and legends to improve elearning practice? #lrnchat
6:13:32 pm xpconcept: Q1) Myth: Interactivity happens from the shoulders to the fingertips, not the neck up. #lrnchat
6:13:39 pm Quinnovator: RT @mkfrie: Myth – If I insert a few matching games, then the course will be more interesting, and people will be more engaged. #lrnchat
6:13:41 pm kzenovka: @mkfrie matching games we have student reviews 4 games so instructors don’t fall into that trap. #lrnchat
6:13:47 pm sirlancalot: @xpconcept wow.. spot on with this one #lrnchat
6:13:53 pm gminks: I love those games!🙂 RT @kasey428: Oh, lets add a Jeopardy game. That will keep em hooked. #lrnchat
6:14:08 pm magdaZINE: Q2) well personally I plan on creating a simple course or two to prove that humor works #lrnchat
6:14:11 pm JaneBozarth: I am curious: how many myths are product vendors responsible for perpetuating? ie, @gminks “anyone can do good training with xxx” #lrnchat
6:14:13 pm jkunrein: Q2) Debunk the myths through your work. Every day. #lrnchat
6:14:14 pm Tim_M_Martin: RT @KoreenOlbrish: I guess we’re supposed to be moving on to Q2, but Q1 is so much fun😉 #lrnchat
6:14:19 pm kasey428: RT @JaneBozarth: …people who use words like “bandwidth” & “firewall” could not define them if we held a contetst w/cash prizes. #lrnchat
6:14:24 pm Quinnovator: RT @jwillensky: Q1 Myth- In eLearning, you can’t assess with anything more complex than multiple choice or true/false. #lrnchat
6:14:37 pm hamtra: A textbook to read on top of working through an online course is FUN! Not…please tell my college teachers this. #lrnchat
6:14:46 pm kelly_smith01: Q2 This Lrnchat session can “debunk myths and legends to improve elearning practice” #lrnchat
6:14:55 pm magdaZINE: Q2) try to sneak humor in small doses here and there to see if clients and SMEs bite #lrnchat
6:15:02 pm lmockford: RT @gminks I love those games!🙂 RT @kasey428: Oh, lets add a Jeopardy game. That will keep em hooked. #lrnchat
6:15:02 pm jsuzcampos: Q2) i used balloons stuffed with “myhts” then we possed them and used live polling to discuss #lrnchat
6:15:04 pm Tim_M_Martin: #lrnchat Q1 (ONE MORE) That @KoreenOlbrish is blond
6:15:05 pm hjarche: Q2) seems @WillWorkLearn has been trying to debunk learning myths for years to no avail – no advice here #lrnchat
6:15:06 pm gminks: @kasey428 I can define firewall and bandwidth!!! have the contest!!! #lrnchat
6:15:08 pm oxala75: Q2) subversive, handspun, sneak-up-on-you prototypes seem to work #lrnchat
6:15:13 pm sahana2802: RT @gminks: Q1) eLearning Myth:The audio narration must repeat *every* *single* *word* on the screen/gag me #lrnchat very often asked for
6:15:26 pm xpconcept: Q2) Leadership. Studies have been done. Leadership. And not vendor driven leadership if it’s self-serving. #lrnchat
6:15:28 pm jsuzcampos: RT @jsuzcampos: Q2) i used balloons stuffed with “myhts” then we POPPED (not possed) them and used live polling to discuss #lrnchat
6:15:28 pm jkunrein: RT @oxala75: Q2) subversive, handspun, sneak-up-on-you prototypes seem to work #lrnchat
6:15:35 pm moehlert: RT @JaneBozarth: …people who use words like “bandwidth” & “firewall” could not define them if we held a contetst w/cash prizes. #lrnchat
6:15:47 pm Quinnovator: Q2: maybe some, er, *EDUCATION*? #lrnchat
6:15:47 pm moehlert: RT @hjarche: Q2) seems @WillWorkLearn has been trying to debunk learning myths for years to no avail – no advice here #lrnchat
6:15:56 pm ThomasStone: RT @xpconcept: Q1) Myth: Interactivity happens from the shoulders to the fingertips, not the neck up. #lrnchat
6:16:01 pm Quinnovator: RT @xpconcept: Q2) Leadership. Studies have been done. Leadership. And not vendor driven leadership if it’s self-serving. #lrnchat
6:16:07 pm espnguyen: To all my non Learning and Development followers, please bear with my #lrnchat tweets for the next hour or so. You may learn something!
6:16:07 pm moehlert: #lrnchat RT @TechnologyGeek: Wired – Linden Lab Targeted in Second Life Sex-Code Lawsuit http://bit.ly/nozab
6:16:11 pm jwillensky: Q2 Create examples of what’s engaging. When someone says “can’t be done,” you can show ’em otherwise. #lrnchat
6:16:13 pm gminks: tell us more — RT @oxala75: Q2) subversive, handspun, sneak-up-on-you prototypes seem to work #lrnchat
6:16:18 pm sirlancalot: @magdaZINE when talking about the PAR in finance world, i used a graphic of a golf club and ball.. humor, small dose #lrnchat
6:16:21 pm Quinnovator: Q2: do what’s right, even if it’s not what’s asked for #lrnchat
6:16:23 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @jkunrein: RT @oxala75: Q2) subversive, handspun, sneak-up-on-you prototypes seem to work #lrnchat
6:16:26 pm carmean: Q2: Evidence-based advocacy. There’s lots of good research going on these days. Let’s promote it. #lrnchat
6:16:26 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator Had colleague whose boss fell lin love w/ drag-and-drop and ordered one put in every 5 minutes #lrnchat
6:16:28 pm hamtra: RT @ThomasStone: RT @xpconcept: Q1) Myth: Interactivity happens from the shoulders to the fingertips, not the neck up. #lrnchat
6:16:38 pm xpconcept: Q2) More evaluation. More evaluation sooner. Leadership. #lrnchat
6:16:39 pm jwillensky: @oxala75 I like the way you put your answer to Q2 much better. #lrnchat
6:16:43 pm jsuzcampos: @JaneBozarth I feel that way about the words “leverage” and “robust” #lrnchat
6:16:42 pm jkunrein: Q1) “we could never get away with that” (especially re: risk/drama in elearning). prototype it for your stakeholders and see… #lrnchat
6:16:43 pm Quinnovator: Q2: or, um, use *HUMOR*? Sarcasm? #lrnchat
6:16:51 pm magdaZINE: RT @jwillensky: Q2 Create examples of whats engaging. When someone says “cant be done,” you can show em otherwise. #lrnchat
6:17:06 pm hamtra: RT @usablelearning: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can we debunk myths and legends to improve elearning practice? #lrnchat
6:17:08 pm JaneBozarth: @moehlert @hjarche @willworklearn has done great stuff. We need to forward, quote, print, leave lying around…#lrnchat
6:17:13 pm kelly_smith01: simulations and role plays are within e-learn domain as a matter of fact avoid t/f and multiple choice #lrnchat
6:17:15 pm kellygarber: Q2: Debunk excessive cost savings myth by policing promises made just to land a client. #lrnchat
6:17:19 pm kasey428: @sahana2802 @gminks, Section 508 probably does say we have to have audio repeat every word on the screen…assessiblity issues. ugh #lrnchat
6:17:25 pm jwillensky: @carmean Hi Colleen! #lrnchat
6:17:27 pm magdaZINE: LOL!! RT @jsuzcampos: @JaneBozarth I feel that way about the words “leverage” and “robust” #lrnchat
6:17:28 pm tmiket: RT @jwillensky: Q2 Create examples of whats engaging. When someone says “cant be done,” you can show em otherwise. #lrnchat
6:17:33 pm mkfrie: Q2 – Best way I know to disprove myths, are to prove Performance Improvement based on eLearning. #lrnchat
6:17:33 pm oxala75: RT @Quinnovator: Q2: do what’s right, even if it’s not what’s asked for #lrnchat
6:17:36 pm ethankuniyoshi: Thanks #lrnchat peeps for being so nice to my #itec830 classmates. They really felt the love!
6:17:37 pm philharriman_ek: RT @jkunrein: Q2) Debunk the myths through your work. Every day. #lrnchat YES!
6:17:37 pm Tim_M_Martin: RT @Quinnovator: Q2: or, um, use *HUMOR*? Sarcasm? #lrnchat
6:17:38 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat Q2 Actually get skeptics 2 confess that they have never been a student online & bring them into engaging courses. local solution
6:18:00 pm xpconcept: Q2) Practice the art of calling a spade what it is. #lrnchat
6:18:02 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can we debunk myths and legends to improve elearning practice? #lrnchat
6:18:15 pm tgrevatt: Q2 Choose your champions/enthusiasts and roleout wisely, build the buzz around your techniques and get others onboard. #lrnchat
6:18:20 pm JaneBozarth: Yes RT @philharriman_ek: RT @jkunrein: Q2) Debunk the myths through your work. Every day. #lrnchat YES!
6:18:24 pm jkunrein: Nope. RT @gminks, Section 508 probably does say we have to have audio repeat every word on the screen…assessiblity issues. ugh #lrnchat
6:18:25 pm gminks: RT @kzenovka: #lrnchat Q2 get skeptics 2 confess that they have never been a student online & bring them into engaging courses #lrnchat
6:18:27 pm JaneBozarth: Q2 Be the change. #lrnchat
6:18:28 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @JaneBozarth: @moehlert @hjarche @willworklearn has done great stuff. We need to forward, quote, print, leave lying around… #lrnchat
6:18:30 pm Quinnovator: oh the horror! RT @JaneBozarth: Had colleague whose boss fell in love w/ drag-and-drop and ordered one put in every 5 minutes #lrnchat
6:18:35 pm jsuzcampos: @kzenovka Q2) have skeptics ever admitted this to you? what interrogtation methods did you use? #lrnchat
6:18:37 pm kellygarber: Q2 – Debunk SCORM myth by paying attention to what client has (LMS) and don’t sell them something they can’t use. #lrnchat
6:18:38 pm LMSGuru: Q2) Debunk myths by thinking with the end result in mind and deploy engaging training methods to achieve #lrnchat Do not shy away from any.
6:18:50 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Q2 Leadership. Vision. Perseverance. Stop talking to the “C Suite” and get to the “C Suite”
6:19:01 pm magdaZINE: RT @tgrevatt: Q2 Choose your champions/enthusiasts and roleout wisely, build the buzz around your techniques and get others onboard #lrnchat
6:19:05 pm hamtra: @tgrevatt Great idea – get champions involved to get the word out. #lrnchat
6:19:11 pm xpconcept: Q2) Integrate. Stop building isolated interventions. Learn how to strategically solve problems in with a bigger picture view. #lrnchat
6:19:19 pm kasey428: If there were a place with examples of non-copyrighted great elearning where non-believers could be converted… it might help. #lrnchat
6:19:22 pm moehlert: @JaneBozarth Part of my standard PSA #lrnchat
6:19:22 pm jkunrein: RT @JaneBozarth: Q2 Be the change. #lrnchat
6:19:40 pm carmean: q2: we could create a wiki with myths debunked. vote on top 25 list. #lrnchat
6:19:42 pm Quinnovator: Q2: multi-pronged attack: research, examples, prototypes, sarcasm, education, tactical weapons #lrnchat
6:19:48 pm jsuzcampos: Q2) stop trying to convince and just do it. groundswell. #lrnchat
6:19:54 pm JaneBozarth: Q2 Only allow select learners etc access. Do not underestimate the power of “you can’t have this” #lrnchat
6:20:10 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @Quinnovator: Q2: multi-pronged attack: research, examples, prototypes, sarcasm, education, tactical weapons #lrnchat
6:20:19 pm wlonline: Can someone RT Q2 #lrnchat
6:20:20 pm Tim_M_Martin: #lrnchat Q2 Move on to more interested and effective discussions disputing myths gives them power.
6:20:30 pm JaneBozarth: RT @jsuzcampos: Q2) stop trying to convince and just do it. groundswell. #lrnchat
6:20:33 pm moehlert: @JaneBozarth Just everyone for the next year, start your presentations, no matter the topic, with the “Dale’s Cone” BS #lrnchat
6:20:35 pm jkunrein: @kasey428 there are some great collections online… ducking out of #lrnchat to send you links… #lrnchat
6:20:45 pm tmiket: RT @KoreenOlbrish: RT @Quinnovator: Q2: multi-pronged attack: research, examples, prototypes, sarcasm, education, tactical weapons #lrnchat
6:20:48 pm JaneBozarth: Q2: Remember, reason doesn’t work on people who didn’t use logic to begin with #lrnchat
6:20:56 pm gminks: RT @tgrevatt: Q2 Choose your champions/enthusiasts and roleout wisely, build the buzz around your techniques and get others onboard #lrnchat
6:20:58 pm ethankuniyoshi: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can we debunk myths and legends to improve elearning practice? #lrnchat
6:20:59 pm jwillensky: @JaneBozarth Ooh, draconian. I like it! #lrnchat
6:21:10 pm magdaZINE: Q2) Celebrity endorsements?? Just kidding:/ #lrnchat
6:21:13 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Q2 Start small. Think big. Move fast.
6:21:15 pm tmiket: RT @JaneBozarth: Q2: Remember, reason doesn’t work on people who didn’t use logic to begin with #lrnchat
6:21:17 pm Tim_M_Martin: #lrnchat Q2 seek more interesting models of human behavior rather than simply mimicking a corporate classroom
6:21:24 pm xpconcept: @kasey428 – agree more good examples needed. Honest critique also important. Nothing is perfect, but some are damn clever strategy. #lrnchat
6:21:25 pm Quinnovator: RT @jkunrein: RT @JaneBozarth: Q2 Be the change. #lrnchat
6:21:25 pm carmean: @moehlert Qu’est ce que c’est? “C Suite”? #lrnchat
6:21:28 pm kzenovka: @jsuzcampos #lrnchat I have my methods – bringing in group of advisors nxt mnth so they can see content 1 week on student success online
6:21:31 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q2. design better learning experiences. it speaks for itself. #lrnchat
6:21:35 pm hjarche: @kimchiking degrees? ID & design are crafts, they require practice/feedback/practice, not a piece of paper #lrnchat
6:21:34 pm usablelearning: Q2) on debunking elearning myths: research-based practice + creative design = less suckiness #lrnchat
6:21:46 pm kellygarber: Q2 – Debunk myths by compiling this chat session, and distribute as a white paper (drink) #lrnchat
6:21:51 pm JaneBozarth: @moehlert You’re cracking me up, Aldo #lrnchat
6:21:50 pm moehlert: @JaneBozarth Can we hit them? Please lemme hit ’em, – please? #lrnchat
6:21:51 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @moehlert: #lrnchat Q2 Start small. Think big. Move fast. #lrnchat
6:21:56 pm oxala75: velvet rope tactics RT @janebozarth Only allow select learners etc access. Do not underestimate the power of “you can’t have this” #lrnchat
6:21:58 pm xpconcept: Q2) Kill the next button. #lrnchat
6:22:01 pm kasey428: Some had such negative experiences, it will take more than a champion to bring ’em around. Maybe Kanye West could promo. (-: #lrnchat
6:22:15 pm kelly_smith01: Debunk mythes with showing e-learn can “occur” in many different places, can be broke into smallunits, ended, restarted, repeated #lrnchat
6:22:17 pm jkunrein: @kasey428 http://bit.ly/Xn7ag for great samples — I’m partial to the Allen Interactions ones, myself. #lrnchat
6:22:29 pm kasey428: RT @xpconcept: Q2) Kill the next button. #lrnchat
6:22:34 pm ThomasStone: RT @JaneBozarth: Q2: Remember, reason doesnt work on people who didnt use logic to begin with #lrnchat
6:22:42 pm gminks: @kasey428 I’m gonna let you finish but first I gotta say………. #lrnchat
6:22:53 pm JaneBozarth: @jwillensky Yeah and I”m Mistress of Evil (MOE) too #lrnchat
6:23:04 pm sirlancalot: Kanye West said is instructional design techniques are better than ours #lrnchat
6:23:08 pm jsuzcampos: permeate. learn everywhere. go mobile on them. #lrnchat
6:23:22 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Sorry – “Chief This”, “Chief That” C = Chief😉 @carmean
6:23:25 pm JaneBozarth: YES ! RT @xpconcept: Q2) Kill the next button. #lrnchat (Cathy Moore did great piece on making linear navigation more interesting)
6:23:34 pm carmean: Q2 debunking myths: Not using Q1 insights without evidence. That’s how they became myths. #lrnchat
6:23:34 pm xpconcept: Q2) Start a big picture campaign. Champion the places where learning really happens and strategically supplement with awesomeness. #lrnchat
6:23:36 pm jwillensky: @oxala75 @JaneBozarth If we call those “VRTs,” I think we could get a book deal out of this. #lrnchat
6:23:40 pm jkunrein: (insert your name here) had the BEST ELEARNING MODULE OF ALL TIME! Now I’ll let you get back to #lrnchat
6:23:46 pm jsuzcampos: @kasey428 but think of how many people had negative experiences in a clasroom but kept coming back. #lrnchat
6:23:46 pm JaneBozarth: @gminks is about to disrupt my acceptance speech #lrnchat
6:23:50 pm jwillensky: @JaneBozarth I’ve heard that. #lrnchat
6:24:03 pm kzenovka: @jsuzcampos usually pick the most vocal or visual skeptic in group of instructors & talk them after presentation & work from there #lrnchat
6:24:11 pm sirlancalot: @jsuzcampos they were forced back #lrnchat
6:24:12 pm busynessgirl: Why can’t I ever get to #lrnchat on time?
6:24:14 pm tgrevatt: Hehe, but was does Obama say? RT @sirlancalot: Kanye West said his instructional design techniques are better than ours #lrnchat
6:24:39 pm xpconcept: @JaneBozarth – it’s a challlenge, but I’ve campaigned and won the fight to kill the next button. Makes design into hard work:) #lrnchat
6:24:40 pm kellygarber: Q2 – debunk rapid = no ISD needed by showing what Rapid + ISD gets you #lrnchat
6:24:41 pm gminks: @JaneBozarth its the drink. sorry. #lrnchat
6:24:41 pm philharriman_ek: RT @kellygarber: Q2 – Debunk myths by compiling this chat session, and distribute as a white paper #lrnchat You mean I can’t?😦
6:24:43 pm KatieStroudPro: @wlonline Q2) How can we debunk myths and legends to improve elearning practice? #lrnchat
6:24:51 pm Quinnovator: RT @xpconcept: Q2) Kill the next button. #lrnchat
6:25:08 pm kasey428: Make it a Federal offense to convert PPT presentation to swf files and read the screens. #lrnchat
6:25:16 pm jsuzcampos: @sirlancalot not all the time … think about all the voluntarily pursued higher ed degrees … self-selected #lrnchat
6:25:18 pm ThomasStone: RT @KoreenOlbrish: RT @moehlert: #lrnchat Q2 Start small. Think big. Move fast. #lrnchat
6:25:20 pm JaneBozarth: Q2: Henry Ford: “If I’d asked customers what they wanted, they’d have said, ‘A faster horse’.” #lrnchat
6:25:24 pm philharriman_ek: RT @KoreenOlbrish: RT @moehlert: #lrnchat Q2 Start small. Think big. Move fast. #lrnchat Yipee!
6:25:25 pm moehlert: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @xpconcept: Q2) Kill next button. #lrnchat (Cathy Moore did great piece on making linear navigation more interesting)
6:25:31 pm oxala75: RT @xpconcept: Q2) Kill the next button. #lrnchat
6:25:37 pm sirlancalot: @Quinnovator and make them search for the enter button #lrnchat
6:25:40 pm Erick1970: Q2) a) Do something unexpected & different, b) acknowledge that they may already know something #lrnchat
6:25:47 pm espnguyen: RT @lrnchat Q2) How can we debunk myths and legends to improve elearning practice? #lrnchat
6:25:52 pm roninchef: Sorry I’m late. I couldn’t pass up a chance to see District 9. Mason Masteka Elearning Curriculum Developer in Portland ME. #lrnchat
6:26:05 pm jsuzcampos: @kasey428 I always ask “Where’s the power and what’s the point?” #lrnchat
6:26:06 pm kellygarber: @philharriman_ek no …I mean you can!! I’ve got the first hour, you get the 2nd and we’ll share.🙂 #lrnchat
6:26:24 pm wlonline: @espnguyen Thanks #lrnchat
6:26:25 pm gminks: we are crazy though RT @jsuzcampos: @sirlancalot not always think about all the voluntarily pursued higher ed degrees self-selected #lrnchat
6:26:29 pm usablelearning: RT I like that @kasey428 Make it a Federal offense to convert PPT presentation to swf files and read the screens. #lrnchat
6:26:37 pm kasey428: Don’t begin elearning w/ “at the end of this module, you will be able to…” #lrnchat
6:27:00 pm JaneBozarth: #lrnchat Cathy Moore kill the next button: http://bit.ly/19RL3S
6:27:06 pm wlonline: Q2 @KatieStroudPro Thanks! #lrnchat
6:27:14 pm hjarche: @roninchef I really enjoyed District 9, it drew me in from the beginning in spite of slow & awkward pace #lrnchat
6:27:15 pm tmiket: RT @kasey428: Don’t begin elearning w/ “at the end of this module, you will be able to…” #lrnchat
6:27:19 pm Quinnovator: RT @Erick1970: Q2) a) Do something unexpected & different, b) acknowledge that they may already know something #lrnchat
6:27:20 pm wlonline: RT @kasey428: Don’t begin elearning w/ “at the end of this module, you will be able to…” #lrnchat LOL
6:27:22 pm kellygarber: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How can we debunk myths and legends to improve elearning practice? #lrnchat
6:27:26 pm kelly_smith01: Can the next button undergo rehabilitation? #lrnchat
6:27:27 pm mkfrie: Q2-Like @Erick1970: a) Do something unexpected & different – Let’s even try to be innovative? #lrnchat
6:27:28 pm moehlert: @kasey428 Nice! Ever seen a game that starts “At the end of this game….” #lrnchat
6:27:33 pm carmean: RT @jsuzcampos: @kasey428 I always ask “Wheres the power and whats the point?” #lrnchat
6:27:42 pm xpconcept: Q2) Stop spoon-feeding content on a conveyer. Respect self-service and community. Understand that most learning happens in the wild #lrnchat
6:27:45 pm sirlancalot: @usablelearning punishable by forcing them to use vista #lrnchat
6:28:26 pm ethankuniyoshi: RT @kasey428 Q2 Make it a Federal offense to convert PPT presentation to swf files & read the screens #lrnchat « unless you intend to annoy
6:28:34 pm magdaZINE: Q2) Do we need a new name for “eLearning?” Something with less baggage? #lrnchat
6:28:37 pm jkunrein: RT @xpconcept: Understand that most learning happens in the wild #lrnchat
6:28:43 pm carmean: @xpconcept How do we assess what happens in the wild? #lrnchat
6:28:43 pm wlonline: What about organisations that use third party compliance training that are so not elearning #lrnchat
6:28:52 pm JaneBozarth: Stop complaining that learners want to be spoonfed if you won’t let them hold the spoon. #lrnchat
6:28:57 pm espnguyen: @kasey428 Even more, what good video game sends players through simply with a “next” button #lrnchat
6:29:03 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @jkunrein: RT @xpconcept: Understand that most learning happens in the wild #lrnchat
6:29:07 pm jsuzcampos: “awesomeness is the new innovation” .. so, let’s just be awesome and everyone will want some. #lrnchat
6:29:08 pm roninchef: @hjarche I like that style of movie. Handheld cameras, some CG. Raw emotion. #lrnchat
6:29:09 pm kasey428: @magdaZINE Yes #lrnchat
6:29:20 pm Quinnovator: RT @kasey428: Don’t begin elearning w/ “at the end of this module, you will be able to…” #lrnchat
6:29:24 pm jwillensky: Where’s my avatar? Who hijacked the apostrophes? Why is irony so much clearer on tweetgrid than on tweetdeck?#lrnchat
6:29:26 pm busynessgirl: To debunk “students can’t learn math online” I put online & F2F grades in a ranked list together, then highlight online students. #lrnchat
6:29:31 pm JaneBozarth: Oops phrase “velvet rope tactics” almost got by me, that’s good #lrnchat
6:29:31 pm philharriman_ek: #lrnchat Put a big post-it on the wall of your cube that asks “So what?”
6:29:35 pm xpconcept: @carmean – how have we always measured it?🙂 It’s not new. #lrnchat
6:29:35 pm sirlancalot: transform the learner into a teacher through our techniques #lrnchat
6:30:06 pm kelly_smith01: RT @sirlancalot: transform the learner into a teacher through our techniques #lrnchat
6:30:10 pm kasey428: RT @sirlancalot: transform the learner into a teacher through our techniques #lrnchat
6:30:18 pm Quinnovator: RT @philharriman_ek: #lrnchat Put a big post-it on the wall of your cube that asks “So what?”
6:30:35 pm Quinnovator: ask “how’s that going to help them learn?” #lrnchat
6:30:41 pm gminks: RT @kasey428: RT @sirlancalot: transform the learner into a teacher through our techniques #lrnchat
6:30:49 pm carmean: @xpconcept Well, we can test to see if they’re still alive, but them’s mighty high stakes. #lrnchat
6:31:22 pm lrnchat: Q3) What stories (real or folklore) should we be shared widely to help build confidence in the field? #lrnchat
6:31:35 pm JaneBozarth: RT @carmean: @xpconcept Well, we can test to see if they’re still alive, but them’s mighty high stakes. #lrnchat
6:31:36 pm Quinnovator: (or, rather) ask “how’s that going to help them *perform* better?” #lrnchat
6:31:44 pm Erick1970: Q2) Do away with tests & quizzes – add practical application activities. #lrnchat
6:31:46 pm mizminh: @JaneBozarth but but if they hold the spoon what do I do? #lrnchat
6:31:48 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What stories (real or folklore) should we be shared widely to help build confidence in the field? #lrnchat
6:31:49 pm xpconcept: @magdaZINE I also have strong disdain for the labels eLearning, ADL, etc… Too niche and compartmentalized. #lrnchat
6:31:50 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What stories (real or folklore) should we be shared widely to help build confidence in the field? #lrnchat
6:31:52 pm ThomasStone: Good stuff tonight… but want to note: some of the “myths” are really complaints about common e-learning probs, not really myths #lrnchat
6:31:56 pm moehlert: @kelly_smith01 Hi. I’m Occam and this is my Razor. #lrnchat
6:32:02 pm usablelearning: Ask “How are they going to USE that? What are they actually going to do?” #lrnchat
6:32:04 pm kasey428: Take the learner evaluations seriously. If they don’t like or didn’t learn, find out why and fix it. #lrnchat
6:32:09 pm moehlert: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What stories (real or folklore) should we be shared widely to help build confidence in the field? #lrnchat
6:32:12 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: (or, rather) ask “hows that going to help them *perform* better?” #lrnchat
6:32:21 pm xpconcept: @carmean – we assess far too much stuff that doesn’t matter while ignoring measures that do. #lrnchat
6:32:32 pm espnguyen: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What stories (real or folklore) should we be shared widely to help build confidence in the field? #lrnchat
6:32:35 pm mizminh: @sirlancalot need to transform some teachers back into being active engaged learners #lrnchat
6:32:39 pm JaneBozarth: @mizminh Exactly. Watch out for your job security. #lrnchat
6:32:42 pm tmiket: @kasey428 ..or allow learner feedback in the first place!!! #lrnchat
6:32:44 pm sahana2802: RT @JaneBozarth #lrnchat Cathy Moore kill the next button: http://bit.ly/19RL3S a fav post
6:32:46 pm hamtra: @ThomasStone Good point. #lrnchat
6:32:46 pm JaneBozarth: RT @kasey428: Take the learner evaluations seriously. If they don’t like or didn’t learn, find out why and fix it. #lrnchat
6:32:50 pm kellygarber: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What stories (real or folklore) should be shared widely to help build confidence in the field? #lrnchat
6:32:52 pm JaneBozarth: RT @moehlert: @kelly_smith01 Hi. I’m Occam and this is my Razor. #lrnchat
6:32:54 pm jkunrein: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What stories (real or folklore) should we be shared widely to help build confidence in the field? #lrnchat
6:33:00 pm usablelearning: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What stories (real or folklore) should we be shared widely to help build confidence in the field? #lrnchat
6:33:03 pm ethankuniyoshi: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What stories (real or folklore) should we be shared widely to help build confidence in the field? #lrnchat
6:33:05 pm CathyLAnderson: RT @kasey428: Take the learner evaluations seriously. If they don’t like or didn’t learn, find out why and fix it. #lrnchat
6:33:19 pm Quinnovator: Q3: stories of unusual wins: the game that led to better performance, where a minimalist approach stomped traditional ID, … #lrnchat
6:33:22 pm JaneBozarth: WHERE does the #lrnchat time go?
6:33:35 pm mkfrie: Q3 – You know, that story of that person, somewhere, who reused a SCO from one course in another course. Come on, you must know! #lrnchat
6:33:38 pm gminks: RT @JaneBozarth: Stop complaining that learners want to be spoonfed if you wont let them hold the spoon. #lrnchat
6:33:39 pm Quinnovator: Q3: stories of learners ‘rocked’ with the experience and the outcomes #lrnchat
6:33:49 pm JaneBozarth: Q3 stories built around Mayer’s research on multimedia learning #lrnchat
6:33:49 pm ThomasStone: Some “myths” about e-learning do have a kernel of truth, so when debunking the myth, must acknowledge the kernel when it exists #lrnchat
6:33:51 pm sirlancalot: by introducing your learners as the teachers you already gain a common ground that is rarely found in this field #lrnchat
6:33:57 pm xpconcept: Q3) Lots of stories, studies, history, pundit lore out there already. There is still a problem. This alone won’t get it. #lrnchat
6:34:01 pm magdaZINE: Are you just avoiding Q3? RT @JaneBozarth: WHERE does the #lrnchat time go? #lrnchat
6:34:09 pm gracesteban: @tasena That’s a superb & very informative presentation about WordPress Tracy. Thanks! #itec830 #lrnchat
6:34:11 pm jsuzcampos: Q3) So much is happening in K-12 education #edtech. Show corporate execs a 1st grade podcast channel. If they can do it …. #lrnchat
6:34:11 pm mizminh: @kasey428 I so agree with this – the cavalier dismissive attitude towards the learners feedback is disturbing #lrnchat
6:34:12 pm Quinnovator: RT @moehlert: @kelly_smith01 Hi. I’m Occam and this is my Razor. #lrnchat
6:34:45 pm moehlert: @JaneBozarth How about actually doing real evaluations and not just bullcrap smiley sheets #lrnchat
6:35:02 pm xpconcept: Q3) Industry, vendors, all of US – we all need to point the finger inward and take responsibility for garbage, misinfo, and poo. #lrnchat
6:35:03 pm usablelearning: Q3) Confidence in e-Learning field > still like research-based practice. #lrnchat
6:35:05 pm magdaZINE: Q3) Personal stories with lots of humor and sarcasm;) #lrnchat
6:35:15 pm Quinnovator: RT @kasey428: Take learner evaluations seriously. If they don’t like or didn’t learn, find out why and fix it. #lrnchat
6:35:18 pm JaneBozarth: @magdaZINE No, I just realized if we’re on Q3 then we’re near the end. I answered #lrnchat
6:35:22 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @jsuzcampos: Q3) So much is happening in K12 ed. Show corporate execs a 1st grade podcast channel. If they can do it …. #lrnchat
6:35:31 pm espnguyen: Q3 Redefine what e-learning is. It’s not just courses. We refer to “technology enabled learning”. #lrnchat
6:35:40 pm Quinnovator: RT @tmiket: @kasey428 ..or allow learner feedback in the first place!!! #lrnchat
6:35:40 pm sirlancalot: by actually completing the transformation of learner to teacher, you can walk away knowing that learning will continue on #lrnchat
6:35:40 pm philharriman_ek: #lrnchat Q3: I’m hoping that I’ll be able to tell the story that an effective sales training program contributed to higher sales.
6:35:44 pm jkunrein: Q3) One of the best things I saw @ ICE: elearning implemented @ chain of Mexican drugstores w/o computers. A win for motivation. #lrnchat
6:35:46 pm JaneBozarth: RT @magdaZINE: Q3) Personal stories with lots of humor and sarcasm;) #lrnchat
6:36:15 pm jsuzcampos: Q3) I always show them Wikipedia. Look what’s happening folks. The knowledge revolution has begun, who’s side are we on? #lrnchat
6:36:16 pm magdaZINE: RT @KoreenOlbrish: RT @jsuzcampos: Q3) So much is happening in K12 ed. Show corporate execs a 1st grade podcast channel. #lrnchat
6:36:26 pm tgrevatt: Yes, listen, alter as req. RT @moehlert: @JaneBozarth How about actually doing real evaluations and not just bullcrap smiley sheets #lrnchat
6:36:26 pm kelly_smith01: Yes jsuzcampos, so much is going on. Saw somehting 2day about a school dist. buying handhelds 4 students. Students said “cool” #lrnchat
6:36:29 pm JaneBozarth: Stop making such a distinction. Get rid of the “e”. #lrnchat
6:36:35 pm kasey428: Cite the recent findings of the Dept. of Education: People can learn as much or more with elearning versus classroom. Read it. #lrnchat
6:36:42 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q3. measure performance outcomes, not learning outcomes to show efficacy #lrnchat
6:36:50 pm espnguyen: Q3 Technology enabled learning includes any kind of technology used to learn. ie. blog, wiki, chat, and even #lrnchat
6:36:51 pm magdaZINE: Now I’m avoiding Q3 RT @JaneBozarth: RT @magdaZINE: Q3) Personal stories with lots of humor and sarcasm;) #lrnchat
6:36:53 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat – usually pull up 2 of our most engaging course and the courses really are a team effort IDs and incredible instructors.
6:36:53 pm center4EduPunx: #lrnchat – usually pull up 2 of our most engaging course and the courses really are a team effort IDs and incredible instructors.
6:36:55 pm Quinnovator: yes, educate ’em RT @ThomasStone: Some “myths” about e-learning do have kernel of truth, so when debunking, must acknowledge kernel #lrnchat
6:36:56 pm Erick1970: Q3) elearning courses as apps in a learning app store – part of a broader curr or business initiative #lrnchat
6:36:59 pm oxala75: @jkunrein that…wow. #lrnchat
6:37:04 pm moehlert: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @magdaZINE: Q3) Personal stories with lots of humor and sarcasm;) #lrnchat
6:37:17 pm mizminh: RT So much is happening in K-12 education #edtech. Show corporate execs a 1st grade podcast channel. If they can do it #lrnchat [:)]
6:37:24 pm usablelearning: Will Thalheimer’s research reports: http://www.work-learning.com/Catalog/ (free now!) #lrnchat
6:37:26 pm kasey428: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q3. measure performance outcomes, not learning outcomes to show efficacy #lrnchat
6:37:28 pm jaycross: RT @JaneBozarth: Stop making such a distinction. Get rid of the “e”. #lrnchat Okay. “Valuations”
6:37:28 pm magdaZINE: RT @kasey428: Cite the recent findings of the Dept. of Education: People can learn as much or more with elearning versus classroom. #lrnchat
6:37:48 pm mizminh: RT @kasey428: Take learner evaluations seriously. If they don’t like or didn’t learn, find out why and fix it. #lrnchat
6:38:11 pm Quinnovator: tell better stories #lrnchat
6:38:22 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q3. can we get some actual research and case studies up in here? #lrnchat
6:38:39 pm kasey428: Elearning is green. #lrnchat
6:38:40 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: Stop making such a distinction. Get rid of the “e”. #lrnchat
6:38:42 pm kellygarber: @thatchmo3000 – the last for me was defensive driving course – govt. requirement to be 4 hours …cleaned the house also! #lrnchat
6:38:44 pm moehlert: RT @usablelearning: Will Thalheimer’s research reports: http://www.work-learning.com/Catalog/ (free now!) #lrnchat
6:38:45 pm JaneBozarth: RT @Quinnovator: tell better stories #lrnchat
6:38:49 pm kelly_smith01: with hand helds U may be able to do some L3 evaluations or follow-up 2 training while learner is on the job #lrnchat
6:39:00 pm hjarche: @thatchmo3000 ’cause I know Lee & Sachi aren’t ID’s #lrnchat
6:39:13 pm jwillensky: Q3 Lose “inexpensive, any place, any time” stuff. Push possibility & success BECAUSE of medium- not in spite of it. #lrnchat
6:39:26 pm mizminh: @jsuzcampos Take execs on a tour of an exciting k-6 school #lrnchat
6:39:41 pm magdaZINE: Need to leave early (My dog is demanding a walk) Thanks for learning and laughs tonight. #lrnchat
6:39:50 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Q3 Slightly off topic but remember that all of us can draw http://www.lulu.com/content/3252489
6:39:52 pm xpconcept: Q3) Champion learning that isn’t boxed and packaged. Fight for great learning everywhere… #lrnchat
6:39:55 pm jsuzcampos: Q3) Show corporate execs the new 21st century skill standards. Ask, “Are we prepared to hire this workforce?” #lrnchat
6:40:07 pm jsuzcampos: @mizminh Love the idea of a tour! #lrnchat
6:40:09 pm Quinnovator: hire experts to come in and set the record straight! #selfserving #lrnchat
6:40:17 pm ThomasStone: Did the DoE result show e-learnign better than classroom? or that *blended learning* better than class alone? I thought the latter #lrnchat
6:40:18 pm JaneBozarth: @magdaZINE Talk about avoiding… #lrnchat
6:40:26 pm kasey428: RT @jsuzcampos: Q3) Show corporate execs the new 21st century skill standards. Ask, “Are we prepared to hire this workforce?” #lrnchat
6:40:29 pm philharriman_ek: RT @kasey428: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q3. measure performance outcomes, not learning outcomes #lrnchat, i.e. K-level 3, not 2. Not easy.
6:40:38 pm mizminh: Just tell stories – not enough narrative #lrnchat
6:40:46 pm jsuzcampos: This should say: RT @Quinnovator: hire #LRNCHAT experts to come in and set the record straight! #selfserving #lrnchat
6:40:52 pm kelly_smith01: K-12 activity w/e-learning conditions make expectations for future workplace trainees #lrnchat
6:40:56 pm oxala75: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q3. can we get some actual research and case studies up in here? #lrnchat
6:41:03 pm Quinnovator: not sure average K12 school is example of good use of tech RT @mizminh: @jsuzcampos Take execs on a tour of an exciting k-6 school #lrnchat
6:41:07 pm gminks: RT @philharriman_ek: RT @kasey428: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q3. measure performance outcomes, not learning outcomes #lrnchat, #lrnchat
6:41:14 pm kellygarber: RT @mizminh: @jsuzcampos Take execs on a tour of an exciting k-6 school #lrnchat
6:41:16 pm mizminh: RT @jsuzcampos: Q3) Show corporate execs the new 21st century skill standards. Ask, “Are we prepared to hire this workforce?” #lrnchat
6:41:19 pm mtthwdyr: RT @kasey428: Don’t begin elearning w/ “at the end of this module, you will be able to…” #lrnchat
6:41:22 pm JaneBozarth: @kasey428 and are the ones you have employable elsewhere? #lrnchat
6:41:31 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Q3 Understand that we learn as a community.
6:41:43 pm gminks: @jsuzcampos how about, realize the experts are working for you right now, listen to them #lrnchat
6:41:48 pm xpconcept: Q3) Evaluate creatively, not just the way everyone else does it. Problem solve, synthesize. #lrnchat
6:41:53 pm jsuzcampos: @Quinnovator Maybe the not the average, but some excpetional work being done in many places! #lrnchat
6:41:54 pm mizminh: @Quinnovator said exciting not average🙂 #lrnchat
6:42:15 pm chambo_online: rt @lrnchat eLearning trumps swine flu (or any other pandemic) every time🙂 #lrnchat (oops, forgot the hash mark)
6:42:22 pm jsuzcampos: @gminks yes, and then qualify that with, “let’s start with me!” #lrnchat
6:42:40 pm kzenovka: Q3. Research is 4 the people who will respond 2 that , but sometimes you have 2 take them into the course & show actual engagement. #lrnchat
6:42:42 pm Quinnovator:🙂 RT @jsuzcampos: This should say: RT @Quinnovator: hire #LRNCHAT experts to come in and set the record straight! #selfserving #lrnchat
6:42:42 pm JaneBozarth: RT @xpconcept: Q3) Evaluate creatively, not just the way everyone else does it. Problem solve, synthesize. #lrnchat
6:42:44 pm moehlert: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q3. can we get some actual research and case studies up in here? #lrnchat
6:42:45 pm mizminh: anyone doing the CCK09 course? #lrnchat
6:42:58 pm usablelearning: #lrnchat Admit that Rapid e-Learning isn’t always the right answer, too (just cuz you can doesn’t always mean you should)
6:43:20 pm Quinnovator: @jsuzcampos absolutely, but also in corporate settings too #lrnchat
6:43:21 pm Mary_a_Myers: just joining…what did i miss? #lrnchat
6:43:26 pm jkunrein: Q3) it’s been passed around quite a bit, but… Study Finds That Online Education Beats the Classroom http://bit.ly/3LtlXB #lrnchat
6:43:33 pm jsuzcampos: @JaneBozarth We should evaluate createively (and for outcomes) regardless of the delivery method. #lrnchat
6:43:42 pm JaneBozarth: RT @Quinnovator: hire #LRNCHAT experts to come in and set the record straight! #selfserving #lrnchat
6:44:01 pm adrianbruce: Just added #lrnchat to Tweetdeck for a little ‘mind candy’🙂
6:44:07 pm xpconcept: Q3) Give up on one size, one channel fits all. Layers rule. #lrnchat
6:44:11 pm gminks: @mizminh I’m going to try and keep up with #cck09, most likely will participate where it intersects w my grad school classes #lrnchat
6:44:22 pm mizminh: @JaneBozarth lots of self evaluation #lrnchat
6:44:31 pm jsuzcampos: @Quinnovator Double header field trip day: exciting K-12 school district and a company that “gets it”. Tomorrow … world peace! #lrnchat
6:44:40 pm kelly_smith01: RT @xpconcept: Q3) Give up on one size, one channel fits all. Layers rule. #lrnchat
6:44:46 pm jaycross: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @Quinnovator: hire #LRNCHAT experts. Let’s have a contest!
6:44:50 pm ThomasStone: @Mary_a_Myers Hi Mary… you *will* want to read tonight’s transcript of what you’ve missed! #lrnchat
6:44:59 pm moehlert: RT @NicoleLazzaro: 2 ship an MMO in time, at a certain point have the team cut the design in half. Best advice I’ve heard all day. #lrnchat
6:45:09 pm mizminh: @adrianbruce you’re just nostalgic for a certain balcony🙂 #lrnchat
6:45:18 pm jsuzcampos: @gminks See you at #CCK09 … have yet to get there .. but it’s on the list #lrnchat
6:45:21 pm JaneBozarth: @adrianbruce is calling #lrnchat “Mind Candy” . LOVE that!!
6:45:50 pm Quinnovator: @jsuzcampos LOL Why does everyone talk about whirled peas? #lrnchat
6:45:53 pm Mary_a_Myers: @ThomasStone Hey there…it’s never a good idea to join this late. so thankful for the transcript. dinner ran late! #lrnchat
6:45:55 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @JaneBozarth: @adrianbruce is calling #lrnchat “Mind Candy” . LOVE that!! #lrnchat
6:45:58 pm gminks: RT @JaneBozarth: @adrianbruce is calling #lrnchat “Mind Candy” . LOVE that!! #lrnchat
6:46:07 pm moehlert: Anybody else notice how good Cheez-Its are with beer? #lrnchat
6:46:08 pm JaneBozarth: @jaycross Fine by me #lrnchat
6:46:09 pm xpconcept: On the DOE study… yikes. Not sure the articles referencing study and study itself doesn’t cross into snakeoil territory. #lrnchat
6:46:17 pm kasey428: “The meta-analysis found that, on average, students…” pt. 1 #lrnchat
6:46:22 pm jaycross: RT @jkunrein: Q3)Study That Online Education Beats Classroom… for adolescents in classrooms if grades are deemed “performance” #lrnchat
6:46:27 pm reward75: @lrnchat I’m not sure what’s our field. I do so many things to create elearning, it’s impossible to say what’s my profession #lrnchat
6:46:28 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator Drinkers. #lrnchat
6:46:40 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat didn’t we have no significant difference debate 8- 9 yrs ago http://www.nosignificantdifference.org/ research has been out there.
6:46:47 pm kasey428: “…in online learning conditions performed better than those receiving face-to-face instruction.” #lrnchat
6:46:50 pm PearlFlipper: #lrnchat Sorry for being late to the party. Just got done teaching EDTEC 685 for SDSU. Our topic tonight was Performance Analysis.
6:47:10 pm JaneBozarth: @xpconcept Well then good thing that so many people utterly disregard research anyway😉 #lrnchat
6:47:16 pm kelly_smith01: It takes me a couple of hours to recover from lrnchat mind candy #lrnchat
6:47:18 pm jsuzcampos: @jaycross “attedance” is also a common indicator of performance *oompf* #lrnchat
6:47:35 pm gminks: @moehlert cheese its are just gross! #lrnchat
6:47:35 pm mizminh: experts!@# – our schools are about to be inflicted with a flying team of same coz they did not so good in some standardized stuff #lrnchat
6:47:38 pm californiakara: q3) DATA and evals haven’t been passed down from generation to generations; STORIES have! #lrnchat
6:47:38 pm moehlert: RT @KoreenOlbrish: RT @JaneBozarth: @adrianbruce is calling #lrnchat “Mind Candy” LOVE it!! #lrnchat What about “Mind Steak” “Mind Lobster”?
6:47:41 pm JaneBozarth: @kzenovka Yes we keep right on debating. #lrnchat
6:48:00 pm Dave_Ferguson: @kzenovka Prob w/ “no sig diff” studies is when we disagree w/ results. If we agree, then study is sound. If not, speculative. #lrnchat
6:48:07 pm JaneBozarth: @kelly_smith01 I’m using Milk Duds to counterbalance that #lrnchat
6:48:10 pm chambo_online: Q3) Students benefit from the diversity of online classrooms. Courses are open to global enrollment rather than a placebound 1. #lrnchat
6:48:18 pm sirlancalot: @kasey428 i wouldn’t compare face to face with online, different audiences have different needs🙂 #lrnchat
6:48:25 pm bschlenker: @Mary_a_Myers hi! It was fun to simply watch #lrnchat tonight. Scan the transcript for some good laughs😉
6:48:31 pm Dave_Ferguson: @californiakara Alas, that may be why so many people accept story of a 6,000-year-old earth. #lrnchat
6:48:36 pm Quinnovator: (hic) RT @JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator Drinkers. #lrnchat
6:48:47 pm JaneBozarth: @moehlert @koreenolbrish @adrianbruce : Tomato, tomahto. #lrnchat
6:48:58 pm kasey428: #lrnchat, Dept. of Ed. study: http://bit.ly/JscQI
6:49:22 pm jkunrein: @jaycross it’s good to examine those assumptions… I’m just getting some requested research up in here… #lrnchat
6:49:26 pm philharriman_ek: #lrnchat Signing off early. Thanks, all, for feeding the mind of a newb. In the words of the governor of California, I’ll be back.
6:49:29 pm xpconcept: @JaneBozarth – research = good. Sweeping statements based on bias or exaggerated conclusions based on results = not so good. #lrnchat
6:49:34 pm kasey428: @sirlancalot I didn’t. The Dept. of Ed. did. #lrnchat
6:49:35 pm hjarche: design learning for any style http://is.gd/3otww #lrnchat
6:49:46 pm moehlert: RT @kasey428: #lrnchat, Dept. of Ed. study: http://bit.ly/JscQI
6:49:58 pm KoreenOlbrish: you know, i think we should have a #lrnchat design contest…😉 #lrnchat
6:50:00 pm Mary_a_Myers: @bschlenker you are making me sad that i missed it! #lrnchat
6:50:01 pm JaneBozarth: @philharriman_ek Good night, hope you had fun. #lrnchat
6:50:07 pm mizminh: @californiakara I think if you look deeply into stories you will find data & eval – lots of it – oral transmission of the useful #lrnchat
6:50:12 pm Dave_Ferguson: You say tomato, I say solanum lycopersicum. It depends on context. #lrnchat
6:50:18 pm carmean: DE study: “results are derived for the most part from studies in …medical training, higher education)” better online, 51factors. #lrnchat
6:50:19 pm kelly_smith01: do they still make Milk Duds. So 60’s. Milk Duds are so chalkboard, Cornet Films, & film strip projector #lrnchat
6:50:24 pm jkunrein: @thatchmo3000 I just saw your response about CommonCraft. They ARE IDs because they design learning, and I’m envious of how well! #lrnchat
6:50:29 pm moehlert: RT @ToddStark: We believe everything we read – & sometimes question it afterward: classic experiment http://tinyurl.com/npv2m8 #lrnchat
6:50:36 pm PearlFlipper: I may be old fashioned, but I really dislike the term ‘distance ed’. It’s synchronous elearning, right? We talk! Love it. #lrnchat
6:50:46 pm jsuzcampos: @mizminh Tweeted today about the value of story-telling and knowledge management … will try to dig up #lrnchat
6:50:55 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links welcome. What can we help you with? #lrnchat
6:50:58 pm JaneBozarth: @xpconcept false distinctions = also not good. I am not comfortable with the “online” v. “other” debate. #lrnchat
6:51:04 pm jwillensky: RT @Dave_Ferguson: You say tomato, I say solanum lycopersicum. It depends on context. #lrnchat
6:51:09 pm jaycross: RT @jkunrein: @jaycross it’s good to examine those assumptions… I’m just getting some requested research up in here… #lrnchat NP
6:51:09 pm jsuzcampos: @Dave_Ferguson always glad to see you here Dave! #lrnchat
6:51:13 pm oxala75: @KoreenOlbrish i was wondering who was going to suggest that… #lrnchat
6:51:24 pm JaneBozarth: @PearlFlipper No, not everything is synchronous #lrnchat
6:51:25 pm kzenovka: @Dave_Ferguson F2F instructors asking w/ out looking up the research 4 themselves – forgot they have problems w/ online databses! #lrnchat
6:51:28 pm Dave_Ferguson: @Mary_a_Myers You didn’t come late. When the lrnchat is ready, the learner appears. #lrnchat
6:51:28 pm xpconcept: @JaneBozarth – and ‘one is better than another’ is deserves suspect review. #lrnchat
6:51:35 pm PearlFlipper: Milk duds and overhead transparencies. Remember you had to wipe ’em off to reuse? #lrnchat
6:51:41 pm moehlert: RT @TeachPaperless: Ideas about nutrition in school? Tweet @ChavoDelaDulce , teacher thinking how to improve food in urban schools. #lrnchat
6:51:47 pm JaneBozarth: @kelly_smith01 Well yeah and why are you besmirching them? #lrnchat
6:51:47 pm MariaOD: That is why I keep coming back to #lrnchat time and time again…I’m learning! Dang it! Thought I was just wasting time!🙂
6:51:54 pm mizminh: @jsuzcampos would appreciate it🙂 thanx #lrnchat
6:52:09 pm KoreenOlbrish: @oxala75 well now its out there…might have to do something about it😉 #lrnchat
6:52:13 pm kasey428: Distance education is a deprecated term in my vocabulary. #lrnchat
6:52:15 pm xpconcept: @JaneBozarth – haha – exactly what I was thinking. “In what situation” #lrnchat
6:52:22 pm Trybarefoot: A perspective…. RT @hjarche: design learning for any style http://is.gd/3otww #lrnchat
6:52:22 pm Quinnovator: @PearlFlipper reuse milk duds? Ewww…. #lrnchat
6:52:27 pm JaneBozarth: @MariaOD Oh I hate when that happens. Learning sneaking up on you. #lrnchat
6:52:40 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Mark Oehlert here. I NEED your AWESOME input here: http://bit.ly/2BoWvY
6:52:50 pm gminks: y’all are gross. RT @Quinnovator: @PearlFlipper reuse milk duds? Ewww…. #lrnchat
6:52:51 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith at the end of this Tweet you will be able ro describe seven causes of … #lrnchat
6:53:01 pm kasey428: RT @Quinnovator: @PearlFlipper reuse milk duds? Ewww…. #lrnchat
6:53:10 pm Mary_a_Myers: @Dave_Ferguson transcript is my only hope of following the dialogue tonight. (what happened to your pic? mine is gone too. hmm… #lrnchat
6:53:17 pm xpconcept: Steve Flowers – USCG PTC Yorktown, VA – Will be at our HPT workshop next week. Grab me if you’re there. Would love to meet. #lrnchat
6:53:18 pm jsuzcampos: Jeannette Campos, #redsox nation, ISD, grad prof, small business owner, #lrnchat enthusiast. @lrnchat, THANKS for the mind candy!
6:53:20 pm chambo_online: Plenty of research is out there – just used it a lot of it to back up my textbook. Making the Move to eLearning (not a commercial) #lrnchat
6:53:22 pm gminks: heh RT @kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith at the end of this Tweet you will be able ro describe seven causes of … #lrnchat
6:53:26 pm jwillensky: Jason Willensky, freelance ID, Phoenix AZ. Thanks for another epic #lrnchat !
6:53:37 pm kasey428: I was always a Junior Mints kinda gal. #lrnchat
6:53:37 pm oxala75: i think @KoreenOlbrish just ungloved her hand and smacked this learned collective. I demand satisfaction! #lrnchat
6:53:39 pm Mary_a_Myers: what are milk duds? #lrnchat
6:53:51 pm californiakara: @mizminh ah, but the thing is no one can rattle off the data, but they can the story. that’s why I advocate using them in training #lrnchat
6:54:08 pm jaycross: RT @moehlert: #lrnchat Mark Oehlert here. I NEED your AWESOME input here: http://bit.ly/2BoWvY What are you looking for, Mark?
6:54:12 pm kelly_smith01: Milk Duds melt to easy. I like the box though #lrnchat
6:54:12 pm jkunrein: Judy Unrein, elearning designer, blogger http://bit.ly/DoBz0, and cheeeeeeep voice talent http://bit.ly/sr7Yu Thanks for a great #lrnchat
6:54:12 pm kellygarber: Qwrap) Kelly – Freelance ISD, Click Next to continue … #lrnchat
6:54:24 pm JaneBozarth: @pearlflipper reuse milk duds? Huh? #lrnchat
6:54:27 pm oxala75: wish i’d had the bandwidth to be fully engaged in 2nite’s #lrnchat – some good stuff in the transcript.
6:54:28 pm JaneBozarth: @kelly_smith01 I’ma let you finish but just want to say that MILK DUDS are the finest movie candy ever produced #lrnchat
6:54:28 pm KatieStroudPro: #lrnchat Qwrap) Katie Stroud, Training Specialist. Thank you @lrnchat.
6:54:40 pm Dave_Ferguson: Dave Ferguson, designer, performance fiddler, folk music fan remembering Mary Travers. #lrnchat
6:54:48 pm sirlancalot: Rich Price, ISD in Virginia #lrnchat
6:54:54 pm gminks: Gina, tech instructional developer at #emc (outside boston) and grad student at #fsu part-time #lrnchat bartender #lrnchat
6:54:56 pm tgrevatt: @Mary_a_Myers I had to look that up too, urban dictionary has most entertaining def – not just Hershey chocolates😉 #lrnchat
6:54:59 pm jsuzcampos: @mizminh (per our #lrnchat) New to me: Storytelling for Knowledge Management Research http://ow.ly/pMZP via @lefrere #km
6:55:03 pm mizminh: Finish this sentence: Surprised by learning…… #lrnchat
6:55:04 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat Kae from CO – instructional designer, frequent user of online databases 2 lookup research & Wikipedia, wordspy, & urban dictionary
6:55:06 pm KoreenOlbrish: Koreen Olbrish, pusher of immersive learning, and not poorly designed virtual classrooms…blech. #lrnchat
6:55:14 pm JaneBozarth: @kelly_smith01 You stick to your SpongeBob fruit chewies. I got milk duds. #lrnchat
6:55:15 pm gminks: RT @JaneBozarth: @kelly_smith01 Ima let you finish but just want to say that MILK DUDS are the finest movie candy ever produced #lrnchat
6:55:19 pm moehlert: @jaycross What have you got Jay?🙂 Looking to build ideas around what’s important to learn about Social Media and Learning #lrnchat
6:55:23 pm PearlFlipper: #lrnchat 2001 survey with 1,000 elearners (SAP/HR project). They believed online to be BETTER than classroom. Saved $1.2M in travel $ too
6:55:25 pm xpconcept: @Quinnovator – co-chairing a panel next week (org leaders) on, get this, ‘Integrating the CG Performance Solutions Ecosystem’ #lrnchat
6:55:32 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, Walnut Creek CA, learning design subversive, organizational mercenary, #lrnchat perpetrator
6:55:34 pm Dave_Ferguson: @californiakara A glance at my blog shows stories are in my DNA–but story ain’t always enough. #lrnchat
6:55:43 pm KatieStroudPro: @kellygarber Click Next…hahahaha! #lrnchat
6:55:44 pm mizminh: @jsuzcampos Thank you🙂 #lrnchat
6:55:50 pm jaycross: RT @JaneBozarth: This is true: MILK DUDS are the finest movie candy ever produced #lrnchat
6:55:56 pm Quinnovator: thanks all for, once again, a fantastic (and funny) #lrnchat!
6:55:57 pm sahana2802: Sahana, ID, love to learn, and love #lrnchat. Thank you all for these wonderful sessions. superb mind candy!🙂
6:56:03 pm Dave_Ferguson: @KoreenOlbrish I think all Second Life classrooms should have padded seats, don’t you? #lrnchat
6:56:04 pm moehlert: @PearlFlipper BOOM! Favorited! #lrnchat
6:56:06 pm Mary_a_Myers: mary myers tweeting from toronto tonight..living the ID dream by day. wondering what happened to my pic. will wait for transcript. #lrnchat
6:56:18 pm xpconcept: Big picture has awesome traction. #lrnchat
6:56:20 pm kzenovka: @JaneBozarth Snow caps rules! #lrnchat
6:56:27 pm JaneBozarth: Jane Bozarth, dire warning, milk dud lover, anti-mythologizer, ID/trainer, author, Doctor of Things like Epistemology and Rubrics #lrnchat
6:56:27 pm mizminh: @jsuzcampos even a video🙂 #lrnchat
6:56:30 pm kasey428: U can create a PDF at What the Hashtag for those who joined late. Kay Wood, barrel partner of @sirlancalot, signing off. G’night. #lrnchat
6:56:40 pm JaneBozarth: Oh yes Raleigh #lrnchat
6:56:47 pm Dave_Ferguson: @jaycross Milk Duds are fine, but there’s something about those Necco wafters. Except chocolate ones, added to plague a body. #lrnchat
6:56:53 pm Quinnovator: @xpconcept sounds great! hopefully integrating includes implementing (and I’ve some spare bandwidth😉 #lrnchat
6:57:02 pm carmean: Colleen Carmean, ASU in Phoenix, lover of mind candy and great digital spaces design. #lrnchat
6:57:08 pm kzenovka: @PearlFlipper #lrnchat true we really didn’t discuss ROI – for another time.
6:57:14 pm PearlFlipper: #lrnchat laura, ISD grad turned HR / OD / Performance and now strategist. Not as smart as @moehlert though, not by a longshot.
6:57:18 pm gminks: peace love and addie to everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 #lrnchat
6:57:42 pm usablelearning: Wheee! that was fun. ‘Night #lrnchat – Julie Dirksen, ID geekette, e-Learning nerd and fledgling cartoonist: http://bit.ly/TYAkM
6:57:44 pm JaneBozarth: @kzenovka I’m down with some sno caps but don’t let kelly_smith01 hear about it. Talk about retro #lrnchat
6:57:46 pm kelly_smith01: JaneBozarth Sponge Bob rocks. He took an elearn lesson to learn how to make Crabbie Patties #lrnchat
6:57:55 pm mizminh: what! I got here late & now you’re finishing !?? Thanks all – brief but engaging🙂 – of course #lrnchat
6:57:56 pm xpconcept: @Quinnovator – it’s a long journey.🙂 #lrnchat
6:57:58 pm kasey428: @gminks I’ll drink to that. #lrnchat
6:58:01 pm californiakara: Former I’d, current writer, secret superhero identity: saving the world from bad PowerPoint decks one slide at a time #lrnchat
6:58:04 pm Mary_a_Myers: @gminks haha…i will use this greeting from now on. love it. #lrnchat
6:58:09 pm KoreenOlbrish: @gminks couldn’t go without one last drink!, huh?😉 #lrnchat
6:58:15 pm bschlenker: #lrnchat Brent Schlenker – DevLearn09 Wizard – All things Learning Guy – Phx AZ – “Just standin’ by the bowl-o-girls”
6:58:20 pm moehlert: #lrnchat I just gotta tell ya, THAT was FUN! Ya’ll rock.
6:58:21 pm roninchef: Mason Masteka Elearning Developer in ME. It was fun just to watch the stream go by tonight. I’ll get caught up later. Night all! #lrnchat
6:58:31 pm reward75: @lrnchat Regina Ward, NYC, Jack of all Elearning Trades and learning more #lrnchat
6:58:44 pm tgrevatt: G’night from Ottawa. Kudos for topic selection, a most entertaining evening. #lrnchat
6:58:53 pm oxala75: Qwrap) craig in alexandria, va. elearning jockey, storyteller, afghan kebab eater #lrnchat
6:58:59 pm Dave_Ferguson: Don’t forget, only 28 shopping days till St. Crispin’s Day. #lrnchat
6:59:11 pm moehlert: @gminks You said the “A” word and insult a favorite snack food all in one night?😉 #lrnchat

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