Transcript of #lrnchat July 23 2009

8:30:00 pm lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How’ve you been? Q0 warm up after the rules.
8:30:50 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Just dropped a poll into http://tinyurl.com/mom8l4 Give it a spinπŸ™‚
8:30:51 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Q0 I’ve been good…thanks for asking!
8:31:55 pm moehlert: To all my followers who may be new, for the next 90 minutes, will be tweeting about learning & training using #lrnchat tag. Jump in!
8:32:06 pm lrnchat: #lrnchat rules: 1) Introduce yourself. (We do this again at the end). Location? Focus? Fave topics?
8:32:27 pm lrnchat: 2) [try to] stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 20 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
8:32:32 pm cammybean: http://twitpic.com/be2r6 – Eat your heart out! #lrnchat
8:32:59 pm tmiket: RT @moehlert: To all my followers, for the next 90 minutes, will be tweeting about learning & training using #lrnchat tag. Jump in!
8:33:12 pm ScottWyler: about to start chatting re learning on #lrnchat… drop on by, if you’re curious #lrnchat/
8:33:24 pm lrnchat: 3) on #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm, welcome tho.
8:33:57 pm andyparkernz: Chatting on #lrnchat for next while. #lrnchat
8:34:11 pm cammybean: http://twitpic.com/be2ym – Ellen Wagner and clam dinner @edwsonoma #lrnchat
8:34:49 pm LearnNuggets: #lrnchat Kevin Thorn – Training Technologies at AutoZone, NuggetHead at LearnNuggets.com, and the ARToonist at delanotho studioz
8:34:50 pm lrnchat: 4) 10min before end, tell us if you need anything from the other #lrnchat participants. Time to reintroduce yourself, too. Links welcome.
8:35:05 pm mobilemind: Me too! – RT @moehlert: To my followers, for next 90 minutes, I’ll be tweeting about learning & training using #lrnchat tag. Jump in!
8:35:05 pm tmiket: Mike Taylor Columbus, Ohio loving learning and our nice cool July weather #lrnchat
8:35:06 pm rpannoni: Sarcasm? From us? #lrnchat
8:35:25 pm cammybean: http://twitpic.com/be34w – Lobster Roll and @gminks #lrnchat
8:35:30 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Hi All! Mark Oehlert from outside Washington DC. Work on Social Media in large organizations and Virtual Worlds
8:35:33 pm hybridkris: Kris Rockwell, Hybrid Learning Systems in Pittsburgh, PA. Focused on mobile learning. Looking forward to @moehlert snarkiness. #lrnchat
8:35:46 pm Jeffhurt: I’m Director of Education & Events 4 national trade association, blend of both Ed & Events hdq Dallas Fav- web 2.0, learning 2.0 #lrnchat
8:35:48 pm lrnchat: 5) When writing in, complete thoughts help followers outside chat learn from you. #lrnchat
8:35:53 pm marciamarcia: For next 90 minutes I’ll be tweeting bout learning at conferences for #lrnchat, then last 60min also talkin’ #behindthefirewall. Crazy/true.
8:36:00 pm andyparkernz: Andy Parker, Auckland NZ, Group IT Manager Academic Colleges Group (ACG) #lrnchat
8:36:31 pm cammybean: http://twitpic.com/be3bf – Kay wood @kasey428 and arctic char #lrnchat
8:36:34 pm lrnchat: 6) Periodically RT questions so others outside #lrnchat know what you’re talking about so they can chime in.
8:36:44 pm richardsheehy: @KoreenOlbrish and you even handle broken heels rather well, I must sayπŸ™‚ #lrnchat
8:36:52 pm ScottWyler: Scott Wyler, Los Angeles, f2f biz simulations & facilitation. If no behavior change, was there learning? #lrnchat/
8:37:01 pm moehlert: @KoreenOlbrish #lrnchat Wow. Heavy burden but I’ll do my bestπŸ˜‰
8:37:05 pm mobilemind: Tom King, focus on learning technology & interoperability. ISD/techie currently Evangelist @Questionmark Corp #lrnchat
8:37:12 pm tjmeister: I’m getting real-time search results at TweetGrid http://tweetgrid.com/ #lrnchat
8:37:13 pm lrnchat: 7) Remember to include the #lrnchat in all posts. http://tweetchat.com & http://tweetgrid.com work well.
8:37:16 pm bschlenker: @moehlert coverit live needs to make an iPhone version. #lrnchat LIVE Boston will need to skip the polls
8:37:20 pm tmiket: @cammybean is making me hungry!😎 #lrnchat
8:38:07 pm moehlert: @bschlenker There is a mobile site silly. You need a cover it live account and then just log in #lrnchat
8:38:14 pm cammybean: http://twitpic.com/be3kd – Brent and surf and turf @bschlenker #lrnchat
8:38:14 pm MariaOD: Maria, OD Specialist, Columbus,Ohio. Hello everyone! #lrnchat
8:38:29 pm rpannoni: Rob Pannoni, Razor Learning, Santa Clara, enterprise learning governance #lrnchat
8:38:35 pm chrisstjohn: Just announced: At last iel09 conf, moehlert scored 100% “excellent speaker” rating. Congrats! #lrnchat
8:38:36 pm mkfrie: Mark Friedman here from Hampton Roads, VA – DoD Adv Technologies researcher #lrnchat
8:38:40 pm mobilemind: *@bschlenker @moehlert CoverItLive _viewer_ works on iPhone though, right? #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:39:01 pm moehlert: 23 July #LRNCHAT: 23 July #lrnchat http://bit.ly/Sik77
8:39:06 pm LearnNuggets: Learned today: Roses don’t have thorns…they have prickles. “Every Rose has its Prickle” just doesn’t have the same ring. #lrnchat
8:39:09 pm lrnchat: 7a) If you use http://twubs.com/lrnchat (great interface), remember you can click X to remove their URL & extra #lrnchat
8:39:27 pm lrnchat: Q0 (our weekly #lrnchat welcome, now also @lrn2day) What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
8:39:35 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat Kae from Colorado instructional designer – learner engagement, virtual worlds, serious games & trying out ARGS & AR
8:40:02 pm tjmeister: Trevor Meister -Edmonton Canada, Former K-12 Teacher -Now freelance Virtual World Explorer/builder/scripter & stuff #lrnchat
8:40:09 pm mkfrie: I learned today that people in the workplace sure like diagrams and structures to guide them #lrnchat
8:40:21 pm cammybean: http://twitpic.com/be3w2 – Stephen Martin will drink to that. @smartinx #lrnchat
8:40:33 pm moehlert: #lrnchat I learned today that you have to “be in it to win it.”
8:40:56 pm mobilemind: http://tweetchat.com/ works for me too. Will try twubs though #lrnchat
8:41:09 pm smartinx: Q0: would love to #lrnchat, but my mouth is full.
8:41:11 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat playing in Metaplace this week think it could work as gateway to SL for some late majority instructors.
8:41:19 pm tmiket: I learned some super-handy Find/Replace tricks in MS Word http://bit.ly/yI9rq #lrnchat
8:41:35 pm cammybean: http://twitpic.com/be42c – Cammy Bean and potato. #lrnchat
8:41:43 pm hybridkris: I learned that Excel can be quite a cumbersome tool and yet provide some pretty revealing information about eLearning dev time. #lrnchat
8:41:55 pm moehlert: @kzenovka #lrnchat Hi Kae! Sounds like we have similar interests/focus. Where in Colorado?
8:41:59 pm LearnNuggets: @moehlert My VP says something similar: “Be here now!” #lrnchat
8:42:01 pm MariaOD: I learned today about the value of re-purposing content. Yay!!! #lrnchat
8:42:16 pm mobilemind: I learned today that default Windows Vista doesn’t do so well with .mp4, & the joys of re-encoding video podcasts #lrnchat
8:42:19 pm andyparkernz: Learning that catering for different web browser behaviour is painful #lrnchat
8:43:05 pm alexismac: Alexis MacMillan – Edmonton (two of us now!) Pres of Christie Communications, interactive developers. #lrnchat
8:43:14 pm Jeffhurt: Q0: Gallup Poll has Q12 of questions to identify organization’s culture & if predictable high turnover. #lrnchat
8:43:28 pm LearnNuggets: Interviewed new candidate today: Learned that it doesn’t matter that I think they should actually have “skills” to be in traning #lrnchat
8:43:29 pm tjmeister: I learned this week it is fairly easy now to set up a standalone OpenSim platform and that .oar files are cool. #lrnchat
8:43:38 pm J_Schulz: Q0 – I learned that @tonykarrer can put on a mean #learntrends session. Always learn from those events. #lrnchat
8:43:42 pm media1der: learned by accident twitter can be an awesome recruiting tool #lrnchat
8:44:18 pm wlonline: Hello everyone on #lrnchat!
8:44:50 pm Erick1970: RT @lrnchat: Tonight’s theme is learning events: how can social media be used to make them even better? #lrnchat
8:44:52 pm LearnNuggets: @MariaOD Big value…that’s the purpose of those .ppt templates. Re-purpose is valuable w/ demanding business partners #lrnchat
8:44:56 pm richardsheehy: Playing “World of Goo” and looking at how they used signs as an on screen element to display optional hints #lrnchat
8:45:16 pm andyparkernz: also that Blackboard tabs seem to behave differently in different browsers #lrnchat http://twubs.com/lrnchat
8:45:57 pm lrnchat: Q1) How can social media be integrated into conferences so that it enhances the learning & doesn’t distract from it? #lrnchat
8:46:02 pm chris__lucas: Chris Lucas- Asst. Director@ITS Training Services@Penn State. Hello! #lrnchat
8:46:08 pm wlonline: This week following conversations around design thinking and learning more about what it means to diff groups #lrnchat
8:46:18 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat @andyparkernz learned something similar this week about Desire2Learn
8:46:33 pm tjmeister: @alexismac Hello fellow Edmontonian, thought I had seen you on #lrnchat before…
8:46:38 pm moehlert: @richardsheehy #lrnchat Developed as part of “Experimental Gameplay” program at CMU..take game idea to production EVERY 7 days 4 a semester
8:46:48 pm MariaOD: Also learned that the program Laserfiche disables my mouse in Office 2007!!!! #lrnchat
8:47:03 pm richardsheehy: Installed FireFox 3.5 today and so far not too impressed with “improved performance” #lrnchat
8:47:20 pm tjmeister: I love the fact that I can now follow much of the action from conferences I can’t attend through SocMed tools… #lrnchat
8:47:22 pm ScottWyler: Q0: learned how quickly a 6.75 year old can modify their manipulation strategies #lrnchat
8:47:30 pm Jeffhurt: @lrnchat Q1 I find that the goal of integrating Social Media into conference must be identified first. #lrnchat
8:47:34 pm LearnNuggets: Q1: SoMe at conferences can be effective to bring in audience who are not attending. Co-workers back at the office #lrnchat
8:47:41 pm alexismac: @tjmeister yes you did – we have also met in person – think at #twilightYEG #lrnchat
8:47:51 pm mkfrie: Q1 I think speakers at conferences (myself included) should integrate the twitter channel into the presentation more-& accept it! #lrnchat
8:48:14 pm kzenovka: Q1: social media integrated – prep the attendees ahead of time let them know location reports don’t add value #lrnchat
8:48:38 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Q1 First idea just played out again at #ogi …TwitterCamp + Huge Screens
8:48:49 pm mobilemind: Seems like social media @ events can be focusing for the writer, valuable for remote followers… #lrnchat
8:48:54 pm Frans: @lrnchat Conferences should direct people to specific socialmedia platforms to crowdsource all contributions better. #lrnchat
8:49:05 pm tjmeister: Q1. Conferences that plan for decent wireless connectivity a good first step… #lrnchat
8:49:11 pm LearnNuggets: Q1: SoMe at conferences is the new norm. Organizers should prepare attendees and speakers should expect it. #lrnchat
8:49:14 pm hybridkris: Q1: Integrated SoMe at conferences: ARG’s. Make it an entire, interactive event. #lrnchat
8:49:15 pm moehlert: @LearnNuggets #lrnchat NICE! Went right to looping in the folks not present….
8:49:26 pm wlonline: Conferences has been one way st mainly till the 5/10 mins of Q&A, surely socialmedia can enhance things #lrnchat
8:49:28 pm marciamarcia: Today I learned another great question: What do you want to learn more about? (works well as conference question too) #lrnchat
8:49:35 pm chris__lucas: @lrnchat how is it currently a distraction at conferences? #lrnchat
8:49:36 pm Jeffhurt: @mkfrie Agree. We’ve been using magnification of Twitter/SMS for 2 yrs at confs. Increased engagement of attendees #lrnchat
8:49:41 pm mobilemind: & social media @ events can be overwhelming for those already immersed in event.. new people to follow, parallel dialogs, etc #lrnchat
8:49:46 pm chrisstjohn: One big complaint from iel09 was too much powerpoint. what wud a conf be like if we banned it? #lrnchat
8:49:48 pm LearnNuggets: AG|09 in March used large Twitter feed. VERY useful for meet-ups and cross session information. #lrnchat
8:50:10 pm benduffy: good evening tweeters… #lrnchat
8:50:26 pm Jeffhurt: Q1: Wiffiti is great app to use for speakers & Twitter SMS at conference. Lots of success with it. #lrnchat
8:50:41 pm LearnNuggets: Interesting concept RT @chrisstjohn: One big complaint from iel09 was too much powerpoint. what wud a conf be like if we banned it? #lrnchat
8:50:43 pm moehlert: @chris__lucas #lrnchat At #ogi, the twitter feeds were on 2 of 3 screens, actually hard to see slides on main, middle screen…
8:51:00 pm alexismac: I don’t get to many conferences, so big advantage is ‘meeting’ people beforehand. to feel at home when I get there #lrnchat
8:51:15 pm mobilemind: What about a real-time feed monitor/editor, a person, dedicated to the event & knowledgeable about topic- to retweet/aggregate #lrnchat
8:51:16 pm bschlenker: RT @LearnNuggets: AG|09 in March used large Twitter feed. VERY useful for meet-ups and cross session information. #lrnchat
8:51:17 pm moehlert: RT @Jeffhurt: Q1: Wiffiti is great app to use for speakers & Twitter SMS at conference. Lots of success with it. #lrnchat
8:51:21 pm LearnNuggets: Q1: SoMe at conferences sensory overload? Should sessions be advertised as SoMe friendly? #lrnchat
8:51:38 pm benduffy: @chrisstjohn make all ppt presenters understand pecha kucha #lrnchat
8:51:41 pm moehlert: @benduffy #lrnchat Well hello Ben.πŸ™‚
8:51:43 pm Jeffhurt: Q1: Live streaming another gr8 Social media application. Camera, laptop internet connection & Ustream.tv (free) and it’s done. #lrnchat
8:51:45 pm MariaOD: Q1: SoME can be effective in conferences especially to connect with other folks. At a recent #devcon09, the 5 tweeters won prizes! #lrnchat
8:51:47 pm odguru: Q1: use SoMe to create pre-game hype about the learning topics. #lrnchat
8:52:02 pm moehlert: RT @chrisstjohn: Wud spkrs come speak if we said no powerpoint? #lrnchat Awesome! Yes! Please!
8:52:07 pm mkfrie: @chrisstjohn Speakers would love to just dialogue with the audience at a conference I think #lrnchat
8:52:08 pm media1der: i have a love/hate thing going on tweeting during live speaker #lrnchat
8:52:20 pm marciamarcia: @chrisstjohn What would a conference be like if we banned Ppt? An authentic exchange, a f2f dialog, learningmoments nonstop. #lrnchat
8:52:43 pm hybridkris: Q1:GDC does a good job by integrating it into their site after registering. You can make connections before you go. #lrnchat
8:52:43 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat @chris_lucas some speakers complain! that it’s distracting…
8:52:48 pm wlonline: Attended a particular talk at conference where a number of pp disagreed with the speaker but there was no way of offering feedback #lrnchat
8:52:54 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Q1 I love introNetworks et al for setting up connections between attendees beforehand…
8:53:12 pm Frans: @chrisstjohn They would have to speak, because we have no powerp to look at. ;P Maybe tell them to only put pictures on powerpoint. #lrnchat
8:53:12 pm MariaOD: Q1: Speakers should highlight tweeters during presentations and entertain those questions as well. #lrnchat
8:53:25 pm tmiket: If all conferences were like TED that would be quite good 18 minutes per speaker very little PPT http://bit.ly/oIgWB #lrnchat
8:53:26 pm Jeffhurt: Q1: One of the simplest things is to provide a social conference eCommunity to extend attendee experience B4, during & after conf #lrnchat
8:53:40 pm moehlert: @marciamarcia #lrnchat Hush your crazy talk woman! Next we’ll be making real connections and such…it’ll be anarchy!
8:53:56 pm Jeffhurt: @MariaOD I’ve hired speakers that are pros at integrating Twitter feed through entire preso. #lrnchat
8:54:08 pm andyparkernz: Is PowerPoint different from Keynote, from anyother presentation app? don’t blame the software #lrnchat http://twubs.com/lrnchat
8:54:08 pm LearnNuggets: Q1: Perhaps “tweeters” go to the ‘back of the bus’ (back of room) during a session so as not to distract? #lrnchat
8:54:29 pm odguru: Saw a speaker use only 6-7 slides for a 40 min pres. Lots of eye contact. Also stopped and addressed key tweets every 10 minutes. #lrnchat
8:54:45 pm LearnNuggets: RT @andyparkernz: Is PowerPoint different from Keynote, from any other presentation app? dont blame the software #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:54:46 pm MariaOD: @LearnNuggets LOL ‘you go to the back now’ #lrnchat
8:54:54 pm moehlert: #lrnchat @chrisstjohn What if instead of PPT I did mine in Excel or Word? Maybe we better outlaw all OFFICE…
8:54:56 pm wlonline: @kzenovka Engaging with pp cd be interactive? Spk for 10-15 min then quick chat of backchannel and take most impt qu – will it work #lrnchat
8:55:05 pm Jeffhurt: q1) If goal is to engage f2f & virtual community, tweeting & live streaming help virtual attendees participate #lrnchat
8:55:25 pm Frans: @MariaOD The moderators the conference provides should collect tweet questions and ask them, can’t expect presenters to do that too #lrnchat
8:55:35 pm tjmeister: Q1. Having a dedicated person run/moderate backchannel and assist main speaker may be helpful… #lrnchat
8:55:36 pm mkfrie: Retweeting @moehlert: @marciamarcia #lrnchat ..we’ll be making real connections..it’ll be anarchy! I thought it would be mentoring!
8:55:45 pm LearnNuggets: Q1: What if speakers presented ONLY using Twitter. The whole room would be dead silent for 75 minutes! #lrnchat
8:55:48 pm tmiket: @moehlert I’ve seen those PPTs that are no different than Word docs. yikes! #lrnchat
8:55:57 pm richardsheehy: @moehlert hey I know outlaw ppt and have handouts #lrnchat
8:55:59 pm wlonline: @LearnNuggets Have to agree with this; dont mind some form of presentation as a focal point #lrnchat
8:56:00 pm media1der: drat .. so sorry have to bail. need more twitter friendly mobl device. #lrnchat
8:56:06 pm Erick1970: RT @tjmeister: I love the fact that I can now follow much of the action from conferences I can’t attend through SocMed tools… #lrnchat
8:56:08 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat @marciamarcia – F2F sounds good but would still like twitter – every1 can tweet at same time but not every1 can talk at same time.
8:56:10 pm Jeffhurt: @LearnNuggets I’ve seen events set-up area in room called bloggers hub 4 live tweeting & bloggers. Works well at engaging othrs #lrnchat
8:56:29 pm LearnNuggets: @media1der glad you joined for a short time. Seeya soon! #lrnchat
8:56:31 pm odguru: Q1: Role of the “producer”/ synthesizer becoming very important. Also new presentation guidelines /skills a pre-req #lrnchat
8:56:32 pm chris__lucas: @moehlert Interesting. That seems like overkill. Twitter isn’t more important than the actual content. #lrnchat
8:56:40 pm wlonline: @Erick1970 Excellent point! and the learning goes on #lrnchat
8:56:50 pm Jeffhurt: @Frans I expect speakers I hire to do it and most do it very well. #lrnchat
8:56:53 pm kzenovka: @Frans #lrnchat maybe we should expect it especially if they claim 2 be SoMe experts.
8:56:54 pm cammybean: Ellen’s asking: would participants show up if presenters did not have the structure. Ppt is an organizing principle #lrnchat
8:57:10 pm LearnNuggets: @Jeffhurt Exactly. Cater to SoMe folks at conferences and everyone is happy!πŸ™‚ #lrnchat
8:57:39 pm hybridkris: Q1: Do as @moehlert did and include your twitter ID on your name badge. That will promote SoMe and get you followers. #lrnchat
8:57:49 pm Jeffhurt: @cammybean @ Ellen – If speaker knows their content well, they should be albe to facilitate discussion and adapt preso to audience #lrnchat
8:57:51 pm moehlert: @chris__lucas #lrnchat Um..yeah. Violent agreement
8:57:57 pm mrch0mp3rs: @moehlert I would LOVE to present w/o slides. Engagement us always better and far more enlightening #lrnchat
8:58:08 pm tmiket: @cammybean How much more than the genearl topic do most attendees know in advance? Curious… #lrnchat
8:58:27 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat @cammybean don’t know but trying out an unconference next month
8:58:34 pm MariaOD: @chris__lucas I am slowly becoming aware of the fact that ‘ I cannot multitask as well as I think I can’ Tweet or Listen! #lrnchat
8:59:04 pm moehlert: @cammybean #lrnchat NO! PPT is a limiting factor…it breaks human stories into slide-size nuggets…as artificial as McRib…
8:59:14 pm marciamarcia: I was once on a panel w/ the late Herb Simon. That morning he said, “you’re not using PPT, right?” We didn’t. It rocked! #lrnchat
8:59:23 pm LearnNuggets: Q1: Conferences-goers submit vCard with SoMe contacts. Once their, swap. #lrnchat
8:59:29 pm Frans: @JeffHurt So they have to speak and and find questions in a torrent of tweets? I honestly don’t think that is a good idea. #lrnchat
8:59:37 pm mobilemind: <– remembers when slides were SLIDES, Kodachrome. Some pretty good presos done that way. Then again grandkids & vacations😦 #lrnchat
8:59:49 pm Jeffhurt: @mrch0mp3rs Why not a *both and* instead of either or. Slides & engagement. PPt not bad, it's misuse of it that's bad. #lrnchat
8:59:52 pm LearnNuggets: RT @moehlert: @cammybean NO! PPT is a limiting factor…it breaks human stories into slide-size nuggets…as artificial as McRib… #lrnchat
8:59:53 pm J_Schulz: @moehlert blasphemy – the McRib is artificial?? #lrnchat
8:59:55 pm wlonline: May think of diff strokes for diff folks – understand ur audience and use S.M. as appro #lrnchat
9:00:08 pm chrisstjohn: Steve Jobs is famous for having one image on the screen, no text, and talking to it for 20 minutes. Great presenter #lrnchat
9:00:15 pm kzenovka: @Frans seen people do it successful w/ Elluminate presentations #lrnchat
9:00:41 pm tmiket: @moehlert PPT can tell effective stories just most PEOPLE don't use it well IMHO #lrnchat
9:00:50 pm benduffy: @mrch0mp3rs I disagree, slides containing images which speak to your topical metaphor can stimulate the senses and engage learners #lrnchat
9:00:52 pm J_Schulz: @mrch0mp3rs I thought your Knowledge Network PPT was well designed. Highly visual, let you tell story – not read slides. #lrnchat
9:00:56 pm marciamarcia: @hybridkris Conferences would do well by providing name on badge (like nickname) for Twitter ID. Many regsystem remove when I add. #lrnchat
9:01:01 pm LearnNuggets: Q1: What's that called…20 slides, 20 seconds each. Total presentation 6:40. You REALLY need to know your material! #lrnchat
9:01:08 pm lrnchat: Just joining us and not sure what's the question? You can always check @lrnchat #lrnchat
9:01:10 pm Jeffhurt: @moehlert If spkr is depending upon PPT for their preso, they're doing it backward. PPT is there as visual for those that prefer it #lrnchat
9:01:16 pm moehlert: @odguru #lrnchat Right! I LOVE this quote http://tinyurl.com/nz8398
9:01:24 pm wlonline: Some pp are now just trading twitter accounts #lrnchat
9:01:35 pm stickylearning: @moehlert #lrnchat PPT is mostly used terribly, but it can be used brilliantly.
9:01:39 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat – is PP a crutch for the audience?
9:01:43 pm JoanVinallCox: @chrisstjohn #lrnchat – need realiable wifi, often ppt just backup because wifi often poor
9:01:52 pm LearnNuggets: Presentations are visual, not speaker notes. Learn DESIGN and "present" to your audience and PPT will stop getting a bad rap! #lrnchat
9:01:56 pm tmiket: @LearnNuggets pecha kucha #lrnchat
9:01:56 pm tmiket: @LearnNuggets pecha kucha #lrnchat
9:01:59 pm Jeffhurt: @Frans Actually, they have scheduled places for Q and stop to look at monitor in floor in front of them. It works very well. #lrnchat
9:02:03 pm coachkiki: I've only used PPT when forced to. I'm usually gesticulating so much who could see it anyway?πŸ™‚ #lrnchat
9:02:18 pm Frans: @kzenovka I would expect SoMe expert to give great presentations and not sit and reading a screen, somebody can do that for them. #lrnchat
9:02:20 pm Jeffhurt: @stickylearning amen! #lrnchat
9:02:25 pm moehlert: @J_Schulz #lrnchat Sorry. We also talk about Santa….πŸ˜‰
9:02:41 pm kasey428: more conferences like GMU's elearning event. #lrnchat
9:02:45 pm marciamarcia: @tmiket PPT can't tell stories. It can augment human stories. If we use it, we should not lose site of that. SM can also augment. #lrnchat
9:02:53 pm avron: @kzenovka #lrnchat I found unconference surprisingly effective at MedBiquitous conference.
9:03:15 pm tjmeister: Q1. I find a UStream/livestream feed and related chat most informative for participating at a distance #lrnchat
9:03:24 pm Jeffhurt: @kzenovka Why is it a crutch if I like to look at words or pictures in PPT? What if it helps me retain info, provides hook #lrnchat
9:03:30 pm MariaOD: @coachkiki and everyone wants a copy of the ppt ..never failsπŸ™‚ #lrnchat
9:03:34 pm moehlert: @benduffy #lrnchat One of may favs is the presentation the Tom Hank's does at the start of Da Vinci code …all images, very slick, powerful
9:03:49 pm Jeffhurt: @marciamarcia Why do you think that? I've seen great stories told through PPT. #lrnchat
9:03:55 pm chris__lucas: @MariaOD In general, using social media during lectures, presentations, etc. isn't for everyone but some think it's all or nothing. #lrnchat
9:03:55 pm wlonline: Are there useful tips from how TED Talks speakers do it? #lrnchat #tedtalks
9:03:56 pm LearnNuggets: That's it! Establish these rules at a conf and I bet things will changeπŸ™‚ RT @tmiket: @LearnNuggets pecha kucha #lrnchat
9:04:01 pm coachkiki: @kzenovka I do think it can be a crutch for audience.Depends on ppls learning styles.I give out some materials so there's visual.#lrnchat
9:04:11 pm Frans: @JeffHurt Interresting, if you setup a physical screen to streamline it and make the audience part, yes that would work. #lrnchat
9:04:14 pm mobilemind: Soc media adds to events- an artifact of live conversations, opinions, reactions. The PPT on the download page misses all that #lrnchat
9:04:28 pm tmiket: @marciamarcia yes, agreed that it is the human part that matters most #lrnchat
9:04:29 pm avron: @LearnNuggets #lrnchat visual aids good. Bullet outlines bad.
9:04:33 pm MelyMello: @Frans yes, we've done it that way as well (have someone moderate for the presenter – so they can focus on their pres) – works well #lrnchat
9:04:48 pm moehlert: @JoanVinallCox #lrnchat NUMBER ONE at the list of things that are important/critical at conferences….
9:04:52 pm odguru: @avron say more about unconference pls #lrnchat
9:04:56 pm LearnNuggets: @moehlert @benduffy Exactly. Tom Hank's character spoke to the 'audience' and they viewed the design. #lrnchat
9:04:59 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat @Jeffhurt as a participant would you uncomfortable without it then it's a crutch.
9:05:13 pm MariaOD: @tmiket thats is precisely why we go to conferences right Mike? #lrnchat
9:05:21 pm Frans: @JeffHurt But that setup might not always be possible for all conferences, in that case i think a moderator would be key. #lrnchat
9:05:38 pm Jeffhurt: @wlonline TED Commandments for speakers http://bit.ly/gGfc4 #lrnchat
9:05:42 pm tmiket: As a presenter I've often learned great things from the questions that were asked. Def need to encourage the two way dialogs #lrnchat
9:05:58 pm wlonline: Using Twitter with FF for #lrnchat and refreshing as it needed
9:06:08 pm marciamarcia: @moehlert Heck, many TED talks use PPT. Inconvenient Truth, too. It can be used well as the backdrop. #lrnchat
9:06:08 pm Jeffhurt: @kzenovka Ok, then would you be uncomfortable if noone could speak during the preso including the presenter? #lrnchat
9:06:10 pm moehlert: RT @Jeffhurt: @wlonline TED Commandments for speakers http://bit.ly/gGfc4 #lrnchat
9:06:22 pm tmiket: @MariaOD Absolutely! Conferences are for the people f2f connections #lrnchat
9:06:31 pm wlonline: RT @tmiket As a presenter I've often learned great things from the questions that were asked. Def need to encourage 2 way dialogs #lrnchat
9:06:35 pm LearnNuggets: Followers of LearnNuggets – check out @lrnchat to join the conversation! #lrnchat
9:06:49 pm Jeffhurt: @kzenovka You're omitting those people who prefer to learn by seeing something. #lrnchat
9:07:04 pm MelyMello: RT @Jeffhurt: @wlonline TED Commandments for speakers http://bit.ly/gGfc4 #lrnchat
9:07:05 pm bschlenker: RT @LearnNuggets: Presentations are visual, not speaker notes. Learn DESIGN and "present" to your audience! #lrnchat
9:07:15 pm ScottWyler: if speaker responds to some tweets, but not mine, will I lose engagement? #lrnchat http://twubs.com/lrnchat
9:07:19 pm coachkiki: RT@tmiket As presenter I've often learned great things frm questions that were asked. Def need to encourage the two way dialogs #lrnchat
9:07:22 pm Frans: RT @JeffHurt: @wlonline TED Commandments for speakers http://bit.ly/gGfc4 #lrnchat
9:07:23 pm wlonline: @Jeffhurt Thanks! #lrnchat
9:07:24 pm LearnNuggets: @wlonline Try using TweetChat.com/room/lrnchat It auto refreshes and auto adds the hashtag #lrnchat
9:07:59 pm LearnNuggets: @bschlenker Brent is the epitome of a pro ppt user and presenter! #lrnchat
9:08:07 pm moehlert: @marciamarcia #lrnchat Yeah, but its kinda like a gun. Easy to be dumb and use it – firing wildly – harder to gain accuracy,mastery…
9:08:10 pm wlonline: @ScottWyler Realistically they can't respond to all, but community can also respond to ur qu. #lrnchat
9:08:40 pm lindseyb16: RT @lthumann If you are coming to EdubloggerCon East, would you like to lead a discussion? #BLC09 #lrnchat http://bit.ly/2Tsmd
9:08:40 pm tmiket: @bschlenker Right on Brent. No "slide-uments" as Nancy Duarte would say. #lrnchat
9:08:46 pm LearnNuggets: Hey all, gotta go. Got a conference all to learn more about Joomla. Sorry. Catcha all later! #lrnchat
9:08:57 pm MelyMello: @ScottWyler not if it's done right. your ? can still be answered post presentation. #lrnchat
9:08:59 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat @Jeffhurt sorry don't understand Q. Some people go to session stare @ PP handout whole session – totally passive.
9:09:01 pm coachkiki: @marciamarcia @moehlert You bring up good point – something 2 focus on instead of 1 person – better than some other options.. #lrnchat
9:09:16 pm Erick1970: (or the presenter?) RT @kzenovka: #lrnchat – is PP a crutch for the audience?
9:09:19 pm cammybean: Ellen's raging now. Watch out! #lrnchat
9:09:21 pm gminks: I'm on way home on the train (from #IDNE) connecting to the wifi to sneak into #lrnchat
9:09:28 pm mkfrie: I have always heard that Conferences were for meeting and collaborating w/people between the sessions #lrnchat
9:09:38 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Was just thinking about managing expectations going into conferences…was just at US Army Conference and the format was (1/2)
9:09:49 pm MariaOD: @bschlenker Yes. Doesn't have to always be ppt… could be part of the speaker…like Wil Wright with the robotic arm… #lrnchat
9:09:56 pm marciamarcia: The book http://sn.im/Slide-Ology should also be "can't miss" reading for anyone seeking a social side to a slidedeck. #lrnchat
9:09:58 pm ScottWyler: @wlonline agreed… but still wonder if I'm now more connected to a fellow tweeter than the main content #lrnchat http://twubs.com/lrnchat
9:10:01 pm mobilemind: Maybe soc media adds some "collective intelligence" to the presentation stream… and as a record/reminder later. #lrnchat
9:10:02 pm Jeffhurt: @Frans I think you're seeing more conferences do it. If you're already doing image magnification, you can project Twitter #lrnchat
9:10:19 pm stickylearning: @marciamarcia Al Gore used Duarte Design to build his PPTs. Nancy Duarte's book slideology is excellent (missed the #lrnchat!)
9:10:34 pm moehlert: #lrnchat on panel, then Q&A then small groups designed to generate recommendations for General…like the idea of creating ACTION!
9:10:59 pm moehlert: RT @marciamarcia: http://sn.im/Slide-Ology should also be "can't miss" reading for anyone seeking a social side to a slidedeck. #lrnchat
9:11:07 pm lrnchat: Q2) What are some great ways conferences can encourage & support participation from people not physically present? #lrnchat
9:11:14 pm Jeffhurt: @ScottWyler When attending conf, I tweet as way to take my notes & share info virtually. I save transcript l8r as PDF. #lrnchat
9:11:18 pm marciamarcia: @stickylearning Always appreciate the http://blog.duarte.com/ site. #lrnchat
9:11:33 pm gminks: hi #lrnchat
9:11:35 pm MelyMello: @ScottWyler does it really matter who you're connected to as long as your discussing the content at hand? #lrnchat
9:11:54 pm moehlert: #lrnchat There should actually be licensing like handguns for PPT and Slide:ology, Presentation Zen and Understanding Comics should be req'd
9:12:01 pm wlonline: About PPT; seen some nice presentations using Prezi #lrnchat
9:12:02 pm tmiket: @lrnchat conferences can encourage & support participation from people not physically present by publishing the tags for the event #lrnchat
9:12:10 pm Jeffhurt: @lrnchat q2) Live streaming, recruit bloggers to live blog & tweet during event to virtual attendees. #lrnchat
9:12:11 pm stickylearning: @marciamarcia #lrnchat also look up presentationzen blog and book for PPT design ideas http://tinyurl.com/l4nh8g
9:12:15 pm MelyMello: RT @marciamarcia: http://sn.im/Slide-Ology should also be "can't miss" reading for anyone seeking a social side to a slidedeck. #lrnchat
9:12:17 pm marciamarcia: @Jeffhurt I also use my conference tweets as a note-taking device, and notes from the group are so much richer than any-one. #lrnchat
9:12:22 pm bschlenker: @LearnNuggets #lrnchat you are TOO kind – but for the record, I credit my Mac and Keynote for making presentation creation fun!
9:12:23 pm tjmeister: Q2. Some of the best conferences I've attended have been virtual in SL, great use of backchannel there… #lrnchat
9:12:24 pm wlonline: RT @Jeffhurt @ScottWyler When attending conf, I tweet as way to take my notes & share info virtually. I save transcript l8r as PDF. #lrnchat
9:12:30 pm tmiket: RT @moehlert: #lrnchat There should actually be licensing like handguns for PPT and Slide:ology, Presentation Zen and Understanding Comi …
9:12:35 pm mkfrie: I have been partial to Presentation Zen for ideas on Presentations. Might be helpful to some, http://is.gd/1JydU #lrnchat
9:12:41 pm Jeffhurt: Q2) Move to Move to an open source sharing of knowledge and content. #lrnchat
9:12:44 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Q2 stream conference into multiple formats including virtual worlds….
9:13:00 pm ScottWyler: @MelyMello yeah, considered that as I was typing… it's a tweet vs. listen thing, methinks #lrnchat
9:13:19 pm tjmeister: RT @moehlert: #lrnchat Q2 stream conference into multiple formats including virtual worlds….
9:13:41 pm coachkiki: Gr8 stuff – wish I could stay on longer but have to go. Thx all. #lrnchat
9:13:47 pm moehlert: @edwsonoma #lrnchat Not blaming tools. Just think taking them away will force ppl to THINK more about their message and design… Hi! BTW
9:14:00 pm chris__lucas: @mkfrie true, but I think social media allows me to interact with others during the sessions, share related resources, etc #lrnchat
9:14:13 pm Jeffhurt: @marciamarcia Agreed When using twitter as notes, U get a larger view of content instead of your own lens when reviewing transcript #lrnchat
9:14:41 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat #USIPsims did it well last week – streaming video and twitter feed running next to video. F2F and remote ppl tweeted
9:14:46 pm moehlert: @Jeffhurt #lrnchat Q2 I hear ya but I also hear conf organizers saying "Someone has to pay for the cookies…"
9:14:53 pm wlonline: Actually just realised that most of conf discussed has been more f2f, what about virtual conferences #lrnchat
9:15:06 pm MariaOD: @chris__lucas its fun to try and guess who the tweeters are #lrnchat
9:15:10 pm Frans: Q2 I agree with @moehlert, if you want online participation, audio/video stream it to the web and virtual worlds, we have done that #lrnchat
9:16:10 pm tjmeister: @wlonline ..or mixed reality…with f2f components mixed with virtual… #lrnchat
9:16:41 pm wlonline: Just online conferences, no one attending in person #lrnchat
9:16:59 pm chrisstjohn: Planning a virtual track at next iel10 with Howard Rheingold as virtual keynoter #lrnchat
9:17:24 pm mobilemind: My question- At what point does soc media + media streaming actually kill events? Biz model for on-site event funds streaming etc #lrnchat
9:17:55 pm alexismac: When I spend time at a conference it's for f2f, can't imagine spending time online for conference, unless really interactive. #lrnchat
9:18:04 pm Jeffhurt: Q2) If you use Ustream.tv, it integrates live streaming with twitter chat on same screen. #lrnchat
9:18:30 pm wlonline: @mobilemind A lot of pp still like to attend conferences #lrnchat
9:18:31 pm Frans: We streamed Sop09's #avatarcamp and Obama's ghana speech to the web and VW and got great online participation. #obamaghana #lrnchat
9:18:44 pm DalDubya: RT @JeffHurt: Q2) If you use Ustream.tv, it integrates live streaming with twitter chat on same screen. #lrnchat
9:18:46 pm MariaOD: Q2: Before long someone is going to ask about credibility and bias of the tweeter…and fairness. I paid, you didn't. lol #lrnchat
9:19:01 pm moehlert: @mobilemind #lrnchat SPOT ON. Need new biz models to support new interaction models
9:19:15 pm Jeffhurt: 8 Ways to Make Your Event Blog & Twitter friendly. http://bit.ly/8uxZF #lrnchat
9:19:51 pm moehlert: #lrnchat 3rd Clipper City and we're just gettin' rolling…could be interesting….
9:19:58 pm odguru: Virtual or live, listen to & input into as much as poss then debate what the critical pieces/points of discussion for take away #lrnchat
9:20:11 pm Jeffhurt: @chrisstjohn I believe ppl pay for f2f UX, not just content. Do ppl still pay to attend SuperBowl even though live streamed free? #lrnchat
9:20:35 pm DalDubya: RT @JeffHurt: 8 Ways to Make Your Event Blog & Twitter friendly. http://bit.ly/8uxZF #lrnchat
9:20:37 pm chris__lucas: @DalDubya Penn State just did a conference using Ustream. It worked great. #lrnchat
9:20:38 pm moehlert: RT @Jeffhurt: 8 Ways to Make Your Event Blog & Twitter friendly. http://bit.ly/8uxZF #lrnchat
9:20:40 pm mobilemind: @wlonline You're right. I like being AT event, but don't want streaming to go away either. Worry streaming may kill events I like #lrnchat
9:20:44 pm wlonline: Attend conferences: Even the web designers, developers and social media ppl #lrnchat
9:21:08 pm moehlert: RT @chrisstjohn: Planning a virtual track at next iel10 with Howard Rheingold as virtual keynoter #lrnchat
9:21:15 pm Jeffhurt: @MariaOD Doesn't happen with Unconferences or Camps. WordCamp live streams event free virtually, most still selll out f2f #lrnchat
9:21:18 pm lrnchat: Q2b) Should event planners charge for virtual attendance? #lrnchat
9:21:23 pm ScottWyler: @mobilemind if in-person elements don't add to experience/learning/whatever, don't do it live #lrnchat
9:22:21 pm Jeffhurt: @mobilemind I don't think social meda will ever kill f2f events, it enhances it. #lrnchat
9:22:23 pm wlonline: @mobilemind Streaming will have to considered realistically within a sustainable business model #lrnchat
9:23:04 pm wlonline: q2: Yes some do. #lrnchat and why not
9:23:05 pm MariaOD: RT @Jeffhurt: @mobilemind I dont think social meda will ever kill f2f events, it enhances it. #lrnchat
9:23:10 pm chris__lucas: @mobilemind Is the live feed free? #lrnchat
9:23:19 pm Jeffhurt: @lrnchat Q3) depends on what conference goal is. Is conf. goal: revenue sorce or to spread msg & learning? #lrnchat
9:23:24 pm MelyMello: @lrnchat that's a question I struggle with as well. In some ways, I think yes – the virtual audience is getting something out of it #lrnchat
9:23:34 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat Q2b) hmmm…Sloan-C's franchising model just didn't feel right, become a F2F hub for livestreaming????charge what u want?
9:23:35 pm moehlert: @lrnchat #lrnchat Q2B Did it cost anything to stream it? Free is cute but doesn't pay bandwidth bill..I think we're just looking 4 fair
9:23:50 pm chrisstjohn: How can a speaker ask for $1K or $20K to speak if it is all virtual? You know they will. #lrnchat
9:23:57 pm ScottWyler: RT @JeffHurt: @mobilemind I don't think social meda will ever kill f2f events, it enhances it. #lrnchat
9:24:00 pm jmarrapodi: Q2 No. Virtual meeting planners should not charge. As a MP, it's a pain to track. #lrnchat
9:24:20 pm tjmeister: q2) 2b) Being able to catch parts of f2f conferences from a distance often makes me determined to go next time physically. #lrnchat
9:24:43 pm jmarrapodi: But how many virtuals have you paid for that were AWFUL? #lrnchat
9:24:43 pm mobilemind: Ironically, soc media from events doesn't cover & makes me miss the SOCIAL part of being there.. meals etc., serendipity #lrnchat
9:25:02 pm Jeffhurt: @moehlert Ustream.tv is free. I work w/ hotel to get free internet access. Then stream it. #lrnchat
9:25:11 pm hybridkris: Q2: I was unable to attend a recent AICC conf., but managed to attend one session via Skype. It was great to be able to do that. #lrnchat
9:25:26 pm wlonline: Q2 Jossey-Bass runs a number of virtual conferences – charged #lrnchat
9:25:39 pm Jeffhurt: @tjmeister Me too! #lrnchat
9:25:49 pm montay23: ha, ha, ha RT @LearnNuggets: Q1: What if speakers presented ONLY using Twitter. The whole room would be dead silent for 75 minutes! #lrnchat
9:26:01 pm chrisstjohn: Would you pay to hear Will Wright speak virtually or prefer to see f2f? #lrnchat
9:26:02 pm hybridkris: Q2b: Maybe to offset the costs of the connections, etc as well as to aid in the cost of the materials (hand outs, even if in PDF). #lrnchat
9:26:03 pm ScottWyler: Q2b – okay to charge… if the value is there, ppl will pay for it… but not more than once if it isn't GREAT #lrnchat
9:26:10 pm MelyMello: @chrisstjohn re: speakers. I think very soon we'll start to see rates determined by whether or not there is a streaming component #lrnchat
9:26:17 pm MariaOD: -@Jeffhurt Reminds me of that song by not sure which 80s group…'video killed the radio star' SoMe won't kill f2f #lrnchat
9:26:35 pm wlonline: @jmarrapodi That is a good point but perhaps in future they might improve #lrnchat
9:26:37 pm Jeffhurt: @chrisstjohn I still pay speakers for virtual, just much less. Look at different model, who will sponsor it. #lrnchat
9:26:38 pm tmiket: getting "feel" of a conf from a distance sort of like a test drive to see if you want to attend in person and if it's worth the $$ #lrnchat
9:26:44 pm MelyMello: @tjmeister me too! I'm dying to get to sxsw next year! #lrnchat
9:26:45 pm jmarrapodi: ASTD had a virtual and live conference this year. Anyone know how the stats were? I know it was PRICEY to attend virtually. #lrnchat
9:27:19 pm odguru: Q2b) Value often more a wafting, idea vapour from the live feed. Helpful, but like a sample. Would need more solid value to pay #lrnchat
9:27:52 pm Jeffhurt: @jmarrapodi SHRM live streamed their event free to members & nonmembers. Great way to get message to go viral. #lrnchat
9:28:09 pm jmarrapodi: eGuild charges for virtual events. Always excellent quality. They charge group rate and individual, knowing people will double up. #lrnchat
9:28:12 pm MelyMello: @jmarrapodi what does ASTD stand for? #lrnchat
9:28:15 pm tjmeister: @MelyMello I have also started "planning" for a couple of conf because of what I caught from a distance.. #lrnchat
9:28:16 pm chrisstjohn: At the last WWDC, my guess is that 95% of audience had notebook computers on their laps during every session. Awful silence. #lrnchat
9:28:25 pm jmarrapodi: @Jeffhurt Also great when travel budgets have been killed. #lrnchat
9:28:59 pm MariaOD: Q2 We pay for the entire experience, traveling,being in a new city,connecting with real people, interacting and sharing ideas f2f. #lrnchat
9:29:03 pm jmarrapodi: @MelyMello ASTD= American Society for Training and Development. Big association for trainers. #lrnchat
9:29:23 pm krinhoh: RT @moehlert: #lrnchat There should actually be licensing like handguns for PPT and Slide:ology, Presentation Zen and Understanding Comi …
9:29:50 pm mobilemind: how about pay-per-media; baseline event reg fee & everything else is add-on: in-person, live A/V, recorded A/V, paper/PDF/PPT, etc. #lrnchat
9:29:54 pm avron: @odguru unconference http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconference #lrnchat (forgot hastag)
9:29:55 pm MelyMello: @jmarrapodi thanks! #lrnchat
9:30:01 pm ScottWyler: @MelyMello ASTD = American Society for Training & Development #lrnchat
9:30:11 pm mobilemind: basically you pay for the experience(s) you want #lrnchat
9:30:11 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Hey @coachkiki ! Just saw your comment and added it to the record…and dropped in a pic of fireworks..cuz I can
9:30:59 pm MelyMello: @mobilemind that's pretty much where we've landed as well. A sliding scale type of system #lrnchat
9:31:17 pm odguru: @avron Tx – open space/world cafe very familiar territory. Like the unconference label!! #lrnchat (often neglect # too!!)
9:31:36 pm jmarrapodi: RT @krinhoh:@moehlert: There should actually be licensing like handguns for PPT and Slide:ology, Presentation Zen etc. [PREACH!!!] #lrnchat
9:31:52 pm moehlert: @jmarrapodi #lrnchat A lot of that quality rests with Karen Hyder -Guild's Coach for online presenters – she is awesome
9:31:54 pm chrisstjohn: The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of a "no ppt" "uinconference" #lrnchat
9:32:13 pm wlonline: Time's up for me for today on #lrnchat Thanks everyone! I'll have to read transcript of rest of session.
9:32:37 pm Jeffhurt: @mobilemind Again, depend on goal of conf? Is it a revenue source for org or oppt to spread message & help industry grow #lrnchat
9:32:47 pm chrisstjohn: A no ppt "unconference" Hmmm. What would be the speakers' reactions? Brent? #lrnchat
9:32:47 pm ScottWyler: @mobilemind "pay-per-media"… interesting… and perhaps a "trial" fee for those just wanting a taste before committing real $ #lrnchat
9:32:49 pm moehlert: @JeffHurt #lrnchat Just that I'm cognizant of the folks who pull F2F conf's off and that somehow, they need to get paid…
9:33:15 pm moehlert: #lrnchat OK OK one more beer but then I'm done….
9:33:16 pm jmarrapodi: @MariaOD Although we have kind of redefined that. Look how many new people we know from this gathering? I have met stellar people. #lrnchat
9:33:28 pm hybridkris: @mobilemind Now that sounds like a model that could work! #lrnchat
9:34:11 pm jmarrapodi: @chrisstjohn There was a RT all over the place this week about teaching naked: sans PPT at a university. #lrnchat
9:34:14 pm MariaOD: @jmarrapodi Agreed. This is free! #lrnchat
9:34:18 pm Jeffhurt: @moehlert Plenty of ways to do that. That's what I do for a living Director of Ed & Events for national nonprofit. #lrnchat
9:34:24 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat @chrisstjohn me too thinking I am brave enough 2 do it when I present in a few wks – it's like naked presenting.
9:34:33 pm montay23: RT @mkfrie: I have always heard that Conferences were for meeting and collaborating w/people between the sessions #lrnchat
9:34:44 pm ScottWyler: @moehlert Cheers! #lrnchat
9:35:04 pm jmarrapodi: @moehlert Totally agree. Karen Hyder ROCKS. #lrnchat
9:35:26 pm jmarrapodi: RT @montay23: RT @mkfrie: I have always heard that Conferences were for meeting and collaborating w/people between the sessions #lrnchat
9:35:45 pm mobilemind: Ugh tweetchat and twubs both dead here for me. TweetDeck sails on. #lrnchat
9:36:28 pm Jeffhurt: @chrisstjohn My reaction is you're appealing to audience that prefers to learn by listening & forgetting others. #lrnchat
9:37:06 pm mobilemind: AN event challenge is long lead-time call-for-presos. Conf needs to allocate some just-in-time topics, loosely vetted #lrnchat
9:37:29 pm moehlert: RT @mkfrie: I have always heard that Conferences were for meeting and collaborating w/people between the sessions #lrnchat So is college!
9:38:03 pm mobilemind: People want help with this quarters issues, emerging stuff, not just topic from 6-12 month earlier & proposal deadlines #lrnchat
9:38:07 pm moehlert: @mobilemind #lrnchat Are you hearing that ASTD?πŸ˜‰
9:38:18 pm bschlenker: RT @moehlert: @jmarrapodi #lrnchat A lot of that quality rests with Karen Hyder -Guild's Coach for online presenters – she is awesome #IDNE
9:39:07 pm Frans: Q3 For Attendees to have influence they have to speak up boldly about their opinions, blog, tweet etc. make sure you are heard. #lrnchat
9:39:16 pm mobilemind: Maybe a top event could slot some "semi-unconference topics" and vett them with a few social media chats weeks before event #lrnchat
9:39:38 pm MelyMello: @mobilemind U can do that onsite with twitter…ppl text in their topic suggestions – allocate time in the GS for top requested 1's #lrnchat
9:39:43 pm Jeffhurt: So as learning profs & not event profs, what do yall C as goal of confs? U're talking about integrating socme, yet what's goal? #lrnchat
9:40:42 pm Jeffhurt: @mobilemind Long lead-time call for presos shouldn't be challenge if event prof planning w/ relevancy & future in mind #lrnchat
9:40:53 pm mobilemind: To answer the Q: organizers can enable dynamic topic slots AND participants need to be responsible to act/vote/present/vett #lrnchat
9:41:11 pm busynessgirl: Just joining #lrnchat Was walking on the beach sand as part of my "no pain, palin gains" exercise today.πŸ™‚
9:41:17 pm moehlert: @Jeffhurt #lrnchat AWESOME question! Should drive event design? I like the idea of using f2f to generate action….
9:41:30 pm montay23: But even the individual rate is too much $$$ RT @jmarrapodi: eGuild charges for virtual events. Always excellent quality. #lrnchat
9:41:38 pm Jeffhurt: @mobilemind Yes. I actually secure spkrs to do webinar, blogtalkradio interview, blog posts & f2f event #lrnchat
9:42:05 pm mobilemind: maybe a proactive participant can do advance-participation: Ping a presenter week out on last minute additions to make to presos. #lrnchat
9:42:05 pm ScottWyler: @JeffHurt I've been both, and the goals sometimes conflicted… learning goal was behavior change, conf goal was ROI #lrnchat
9:42:19 pm jmarrapodi: @moehlert @JeffHurt @mobilemind But then there's this marketing thing. Would you pay to go to a TBD Conference? #lrnchat
9:42:31 pm busynessgirl: Not sure where this fits in to #lrnchat discussion, but we should all be putting our talks up at http://speakerrate.com for public rating.
9:42:31 pm busynessgirl: Not sure where this fits in to #lrnchat discussion, but we should all be putting our talks up at http://speakerrate.com for public rating.
9:42:43 pm blendedmeetings: RT @JeffHurt q1) If goal is to engage f2f & virtual community, tweeting & live streaming help virtual attendees participate #lrnchat
9:42:47 pm jmarrapodi: RT @ScottWyler: @JeffHurt Ive been both, and the goals sometimes conflicted… learning goal was behavior change, conf goal was ROI #lrnchat
9:43:34 pm busynessgirl: A public forum where you can look up speakers prior to the conference and see how they are rated should push speakers to do better. #lrnchat
9:43:38 pm Jeffhurt: @jmarrapodi Market it as Hot Topics, chosen by u, driven by u on the spot to meet your specific needs. #lrnchat
9:43:39 pm moehlert: @jmarrapodi @JeffHurt @mobilemind #lrnchat Not TBD..just aimed at generating action vice information/education – activist model
9:44:06 pm MariaOD: Pecha Kucha, Unconference…Are they well attended? #lrnchat
9:44:25 pm J_Schulz: @moehlert So are you thinking personal action plans (i.e. for when I get home) or collaborative work while at conf? #lrnchat
9:45:40 pm marciamarcia: What's the goal of integrating SM into conferences, @JeffHurt? Learning from ALL the wisdom at the conference. #lrnchat
9:45:46 pm RobRobertson: Late arrival tonight, looks like a great conversation going on here at #lrnchat
9:46:02 pm moehlert: #lrnchat just have 2 say, if CoverItLive builds txt srch into their product, I may be more in love than I am now. http://tinyurl.com/mom8l4
9:46:10 pm tmiket: @MariaOD I've only been to one unconf but attendance was good Not on scale of ASTD etc but focused and free. I liked it. #lrnchat
9:46:13 pm Jeffhurt: @moehlert @jmarrapodi Now we're back to ed design of event not just recruiting speakers. Peer2Peer roundtable discussions work 4 me #lrnchat
9:46:24 pm chrisstjohn: Looking for themes from next iel10. Keynotes: Jeff Bezos and Alan Kay. Ideas? #lrnchat
9:46:34 pm TheEventIntern: RT @JeffHurt: 8 Ways to Make Your Event Blog & Twitter friendly. http://bit.ly/8uxZF #lrnchat
9:47:12 pm kzenovka: RT @marciamarcia: What's the goal of integrating SM into conferences, @JeffHurt? Learning from ALL the wisdom at the conference. #lrnchat
9:47:13 pm moehlert: @J_Schulz #lrnchat YES! How can we move forward collectively and how do avoid conf fires being killed by organizational blanket of asbestos
9:47:43 pm busynessgirl: Q3 I choose sessions I am interested in, then have assistant look presenters up online and tell me which have a strong presence. #lrnchat
9:47:45 pm Jeffhurt: @marciamarcia Goal of integration for me is creating the Living Conference or Conference 2.0 http://bit.ly/pC27W #lrnchat
9:47:58 pm rdeis: RT @marciamarcia: Whats the goal of integrating SM into conferences, @JeffHurt? Learning from ALL the wisdom at the conference. #lrnchat
9:48:18 pm J_Schulz: @moehlert Then how about using SoMe as means for keeping conf alive afterwards – action followup, calls for help, etc. #lrnchat
9:48:25 pm montay23: RT @mobilemind: Ping a presenter week out on last minute additions to make to presos. #lrnchat Or, have participants as presenters
9:48:39 pm ScottWyler: RT @JeffHurt: 8 Ways to Make Your Event Blog & Twitter friendly. http://bit.ly/8uxZF #lrnchat
9:48:55 pm Dave_Ferguson: "Not on scale of ASTD," to some, is a good thing. I don't want to be in lobby w/ 8,000 others. Or in webinar. #lrnchat
9:48:58 pm jmarrapodi: RT@odguru:Value often more a wafting, idea vapour frm the live feed. Helpful, but like a sample. Would need more solid value 2 pay #lrnchat
9:49:07 pm moehlert: @J_Schulz #lrnchat Conferences as 12 Step Groups for Changing Your Organization
9:49:11 pm odguru: RT @kzenovka Learning from ALL the wisdom at the conference. #lrnchat. Don't pack schedule w prez. Do your homework on other participants.
9:49:12 pm tmiket: @J_Schulz I think it's beneficial to do before and after a conference #lrnchat
9:49:42 pm busynessgirl: We used SM at #iel09 to have a tweetup with a focused theme. I found that to be a valuable "session" #lrnchat @marciamarcia
9:49:50 pm mobilemind: *@moehlert love the idea of "conference fires" maybe that is a track/theme/topic, with "keeping it aflame" plans as wrap-up #lrnchat
9:49:50 pm jmarrapodi: @montay23 I'd be great with that, but the people that want the handout masters 2 weeks in advance would have a FIT. #lrnchat
9:49:53 pm tmiket: @Dave_Ferguson I'm with you re: "scale of astd" #lrnchat
9:49:56 pm moehlert: @JeffHurt #lrnchat Did you just say the "D" word? You aren't suggesting that we actually apply design to conferences are you?πŸ˜‰
9:50:11 pm J_Schulz: @moehlert Ohhh, that's got a #BSS ring to it! #lrnchat
9:50:11 pm richardsheehy: #lrnchat how about having rooms available for informal learning where interested groups can sign up for a time slot unconference style
9:50:12 pm Jeffhurt: @moehlert @J_Schulz Doesn't behavior change start w/ awareness? Move from awareness 2 action which takes education & digesting info #lrnchat
9:50:40 pm Frans: RT @JeffHurt 8 Ways to Make Your Event Blog & Twitter friendly. http://bit.ly/8uxZF #lrnchat
9:51:09 pm MariaOD: RT @Jeffhurt:Doesnt behavior change start w/ awareness? Move from awareness 2 action which takes education & digesting info (Yes!) #lrnchat
9:51:13 pm busynessgirl: RT @richardsheehy Rooms available for impromptu meetings during conferences. Love that! #lrnchat
9:51:31 pm odguru: RT J_Schulz …using SoMe as means for keeping conf alive afterwards. < Yes org.s need to find mavens and connectors to do this! #lrnchat
9:51:53 pm MariaOD: @Jeffhurt Awareness and struggle to change! #lrnchat
9:51:53 pm Jeffhurt: @moehlert I think many conferences have become predictable & forgettable. Time to rethink them, provide unexpected UX … #lrnchat
9:52:05 pm moehlert: @mobilemind #lrnchat I'm seeing visions of Lord of the Rings when they lit the signal fires….
9:52:08 pm kzenovka: RT @richardsheehy: #lrnchat how about rooms available 4 informal learning where interested groups can sign up 4 time slot unconference style
9:52:19 pm busynessgirl: Did we already discuss making public ratings of speakers available online? My tweet stream died for a little bit there. #lrnchat
9:52:24 pm ScottWyler: @jmarrapodi I'd be great with that, but the people that want the handout masters 2 weeks in advance would have a FIT. *been there! #lrnchat
9:52:26 pm J_Schulz: @Jeffhurt Awareness should exist before I go. Use conf as means to DO something that will have legs when I return to real world. #lrnchat
9:52:41 pm moehlert: @J_Schulz #lrnchat I know not of this #BSS….
9:53:05 pm moehlert: @JeffHurt #lrnchat VIOLENT agreement!
9:53:15 pm kzenovka: RT @Frans: RT @JeffHurt 8 Ways 2 Make Your Event Blog & Twitter friendly. http://bit.ly/8uxZF #lrnchat but segregating I tweet on my cell.
9:53:16 pm MelyMello: @richardsheehy we've done this and it's been hugely popular. low tech – sign up sheets that have the moderator/topic on the top #lrnchat
9:53:18 pm cammybean: http://twitpic.com/bee66 – This is Brent, post-elearning guild conference, doing the f2f thing and sharing it with you virtually. #lrnchat
9:53:22 pm Dave_Ferguson: -@busynessgirl Minus & pluses to speaker ratings — minus like Twitter idiotic follow count. Crowd not always that wise. #lrnchat
9:53:25 pm busynessgirl: My new conference strategy (surely be a longer blog post): Go to the good speakers, go to sessions outside of your field. #lrnchat
9:53:29 pm jmarrapodi: RT @ScottWyler: RT @JeffHurt: 8 Ways to Make Your Event Blog & Twitter friendly. http://bit.ly/8uxZF [very good! ] #lrnchat
9:53:55 pm montay23: @jmarrapodi would love to join eGuild, but working for a community college limits the budget a bit #lrnchat
9:54:02 pm moehlert: @cammybean #lrnchat Wow. Um. Almost a little TOO much Brent..πŸ˜‰
9:54:02 pm jmarrapodi: @JeffHurt You do good stuff. Where have you been in the learning community that I'm just discovering you? :^) #lrnchat
9:54:15 pm Jeffhurt: @J_Schulz But conf environment is not normal life. We want U 2 integrate something in daily routine, not just at conf. make sense? #lrnchat
9:54:31 pm ScottWyler: RT @J_Schulz: Use conf as means to DO something that will have legs when I return to real world. #lrnchat
9:54:49 pm busynessgirl: .@Dave_Ferguson While it is true that the crowd is not always wise, right now the crowd is silent. Rather flawed info than none. #lrnchat
9:54:58 pm McRibWatch: RT @J_Schulz @moehlert blasphemy – the McRib is artificial?? #lrnchat
9:55:05 pm jmarrapodi: @busynessgirl But what about the new unknown speaker that is terrific? #lrnchat
9:55:08 pm tmiket: RT @ScottWyler: RT @J_Schulz: Use conf as means to DO something that will have legs when I return to real world. #lrnchat
9:55:52 pm lrnchat: Q4) #lrnchat participants. Time to reintroduce yourself. Links welcome. What can we help you with?
9:55:53 pm jmarrapodi: @montay23 I totally get that. Propose to speak. Then you come for free! #lrnchat
9:55:55 pm tjmeister: Anybody have something from Vendor/Sponsor/Exhibitor perspective of the conference experience? #lrnchat
9:56:01 pm tmiket: @busynessgirl Not sure about flawed info rather than none…sometimes none might be better #lrnchat
9:56:21 pm moehlert: RT @McRibWatch: RT @J_Schulz @moehlert blasphemy – the McRib is artificial?? #lrnchat Holy Crap. The McRib is on Twitter.
9:56:24 pm busynessgirl: Another idea … speed networking (like speed-dating). Networking is what makes f2f valuable at conferences. #lrnchat
9:56:25 pm 4WorldDemocracy: RT @jmarrapodi: RT @ScottWyler: RT @JeffHurt: 8 Ways to Make Your Event Blog & Twitter friendly. http://bit.ly/8uxZF [very good! ] #lrnchat
9:56:30 pm Jeffhurt: @jmarrapodi I've been over in #eventprofs communnity advocating for good ed design like @MelyMello I feel at home w/ learning crowd #lrnchat
9:56:36 pm montay23: @jmarrapodi good point! #lrnchat
9:56:39 pm Dave_Ferguson: -@busynessgirl In addition, a lot of the crowd ain't going, period. Big confs far too expensive (register/air/hotel). #lrnchat
9:56:54 pm edwsonoma: @moehlert #lrnchat its a slippery slope
9:57:20 pm tmiket: Mike Taylor Columbus, OH Home of @mariaod (I think we need that sign at the city limits)😎 #lrnchat
9:57:21 pm busynessgirl: .@tmiket I've spent a lot of time at some pretty bad presentations. I suppose the brochures already put out flawed info. #lrnchat
9:57:24 pm RobRobertson: While I am fine being rated as a speaker (helpful actually) I can not see it making much difference in who I choose to see speak. #lrnchat
9:57:41 pm Jeffhurt: @tjmeister Yes, we use a facebook type fan page for our conf vendors, sponsors, echibitor. Its in conference social community #lrnchat
9:57:54 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Q4 Mark Oehlert here from Wash DC. Help me out~look at http://tinyurl.com/mom8l4 for #lrnchat recap and let me know what you think
9:58:06 pm kasey428: interesting to read the tweets while dining in Boston. Watching others contribute to lrnchat. We were lrnchewing.#lrnchat #lrnchat
9:58:07 pm MelyMello: @busynessgirl IMO, the speed-networking thing doesn't work. ppl need more than 3min to get down to biz. it just becomes weird #lrnchat
9:58:43 pm Dave_Ferguson: Consultant, inst designer, semi-pro skeptic, Ten Steps masochist; enjoy collab w/ folks who don't think "content first." #lrnchat
9:59:00 pm Jeffhurt: @RobRobertson Really? I publish all my speaker scores & compare them to each other 4 ppl to see. #lrnchat
9:59:03 pm busynessgirl: .@MelyMello I've never tried it … but find the conversations I have with people to be much more valuable than the sessions. #lrnchat
9:59:17 pm RobRobertson: @kasey428 now that is a F2F I wish I was attending! #lrnchat
9:59:22 pm MariaOD: @tmiket Go bucks! #lrnchat
9:59:26 pm marciamarcia: Soon enough, all orgs will realize ppl have SM in their pockets & purses so they better figureitout. #lrnchat #behindthefirewall
9:59:43 pm montay23: RT @MelyMello: IMO, the speed-networking thing doesn't work. ppl need more than 3min to get down to biz. it just becomes weird #lrnchat
9:59:50 pm jmarrapodi: Q3 I always choose my sessions on topics. I don't follow the fan club. (unless it's one of you, of course) #lrnchat
9:59:52 pm moehlert: #lrnchat WOW! That one was close! Skies just dumping on us now.
9:59:56 pm J_Schulz: Q4 – John Schulz, Learning Technologist, Chicago. Job hunting in Chicago area – leads appreciated!πŸ™‚ #lrnchat
10:00:10 pm jmarrapodi: RT @marciamarcia: Soon enough, all orgs will realize ppl have SM in their pockets & purses so they better figureitout. #lrnchat #lrnchat
10:00:12 pm MelyMello: @busynessgirl totally hear you (and agree that the convos are the gold), but a formal "speed-netwrkng" thing can come off as forced #lrnchat
10:00:13 pm Valpakcoupons: RT @marciamarcia: Soon enough, all orgs will realize ppl have SM in their pockets & purses so they better figureitout. #lrnchat #beh …
10:00:13 pm MariaOD: Maria in Columbus, Ohio- looking for lessons learned from Office 2007 migration. Anyone? Training Tips? #lrnchat
10:00:24 pm moehlert: RT @J_Schulz: Q4 – John Schulz, Learning Technologist, Chicago. Job hunting in Chicago area – leads appreciated!πŸ™‚ #lrnchat
10:00:28 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat Kae from Colorado – instructional designer, serious games, virtual worlds, playing w/ AR, ARG – volunteer event planner
10:00:31 pm RobRobertson: @Jeffhurt for me personally its topic driven…lousy speaker does not equate to a lousy topic or a lousy experience…ymmv tho #lrnchat
10:00:41 pm odguru: RT@Dave_Ferguson the crowd ain't going, period.Big confs far too expensive (register/air/hotel) #lrnchat << Yep lg confs down 60+% in '09…
10:01:02 pm Dave_Ferguson: -@marciamarcia Saw comments from NECC that both presenters & participants got gt value from poster sessions: less pitching. #lrnchat
10:01:04 pm ScottWyler: @tjmeister As vendor, I deliver well-designed content (IMHO)… tricky to pre-design random SocMed element #lrnchat http://twubs.com/lrnchat
10:01:10 pm jmarrapodi: @marciamarcia Yes, they will realize it. In some orgs it's going to be 10 years! #lrnchat
10:01:23 pm busynessgirl: .@MelyMello How about themed-discussion spaces replacing some of the sessions. #lrnchat
10:01:47 pm jmarrapodi: @RobRobertson What's …ymmv? #lrnchat
10:01:56 pm busynessgirl: .@Dave_Ferguson Source of data please? 60% down … I'd like to share that with some folks. #lrnchat
10:02:09 pm alexismac: Q4 Alexis MacMillan- would love to connect with tweeps going to eLearn conf in Vancouver this fall. My first conf in a while! #lrnchat
10:02:10 pm kasey428: company has limited professional development funds. No more conferences for me this year. #lrnchat
10:02:21 pm RobRobertson: @jmarrapodi sorry your mileage may vary #lrnchat
10:02:41 pm Dave_Ferguson: RT @busynessgirl: How about themed-discussion spaces replacing some of the sessions. // And less struc, fewer anointees. #lrnchat
10:03:00 pm MelyMello: @busynessgirl those totally work! especially if you leave topics open for attendees to contribute ideas/themes #lrnchat
10:03:03 pm jmarrapodi: @RobRobertson Thanks. #lrnchat
10:03:27 pm Dave_Ferguson: -@kasey428 Funds always limited; true when I was w/ GE the year they had $40 billion profit! #lrnchat
10:03:29 pm Jeffhurt: Here's my view on new type of learning formats needed in today's conferences http://bit.ly/pC27W #lrnchat
10:03:30 pm J_Schulz: @Jeffhurt Makes sense, but difficult to do because I may lose the 'support system' when I return from conf. #lrnchat
10:03:35 pm MariaOD: @kasey428 seems to be the trend. #lrnchat
10:03:50 pm moehlert: RT @busynessgirl: One more question, anyone want to share your yearly travel and conference budget? Mine is $150. No joke. #lrnchat wow. wow
10:04:09 pm tjmeister: @ScottWyler I find it refreshing to keep in touch with vendors through SocMed, unless its all broadcast, little interaction… #lrnchat
10:04:15 pm jmarrapodi: …How about themed-discussion spaces replacing some of the sessions. [I have been at those: breakfast/lunchtimes and few attend.] #lrnchat
10:04:32 pm montay23: RT @Dave_Ferguson: How about themed-discussion spaces replacing some of the sessions. // And less struc, fewer anointees. #lrnchat
10:04:39 pm mobilemind: Tom King, signing out from Seattle. ISD/technologist & Interoperability Evangelist for Questionmark #lrnchat
10:04:41 pm lrnchat: Thanks everyone for joining us. Let’s chat again next week. #lrnchat

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