Transcript of #lrnchat for July 9 2009

8:29:39 pm lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How’ve you been? Q0 warm up after the rules.
8:29:55 pm mrch0mp3rs: Drinking game rules? Or should I just roll with it? #lrnchat
8:30:29 pm ThomasStone: For my Twitter followers who are not in the L&D field, apologies for next 90 minutes of tweets that are part of #lrnchat
8:31:07 pm marciamarcia: I’m joining #lrnchat tonight using http://twubs.com/lrnchat Look forward to learning with ya all.
8:31:26 pm Quinnovator: @mrch0mp3rs wait for it l #lrnchat
8:31:33 pm gminks: @mrch0mp3rs http://lrnchatdrinkinggame.wikispaces.com/ #lrnchat
8:31:49 pm lrnchat: #lrnchat rules: 1) Introduce yourself. (We’ll do this again at the end). Location? Focus? Fave topics?
8:32:21 pm lrnchat: 2) [try to] stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 20 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
8:32:23 pm tmiket: RT @ThomasStone: For my Twitter followers who are not in the L&D field, apologies for next 90 minutes of tweets that are part of #lrnchat
8:32:58 pm LauraMattis: Which is better twubs or tweetchat? #lrnchat
8:33:13 pm tmiket: Mike Taylor Learning Developer in Columbus, Ohio #lrnchat
8:33:16 pm JaneBozarth: JaneBozarthRaleigh/Durham NC, trainer, rabid learner, Doctor of Learning Stuff, positive deviant #lrnchat
8:33:20 pm lrnchat: 3) on #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm, welcome tho.
8:33:30 pm carolwhit: Carol Whittington, San Jose, CA, instructional design, eLearning #lrnchat
8:33:57 pm emeraldrgn: Erik Davis, Memphis TN for the next few minutes, LSD, lurking 4 now #Lrnchat
8:34:03 pm KoreenOlbrish: hello learning friends! koreen olbrish, Tandem Learning, Philly-ish,❤ me some virtual worlds, games, sims-anything tech & lrning! #lrnchat
8:34:06 pm J_Schulz: John Schulz, Learning Techy/Strategy, Chicago #lrnchat
8:34:11 pm ThomasStone: Thomas Stone, from Rochester NY. Product Design Architect at Element K. #lrnchat
8:34:14 pm marciamarcia: During upcoming #lrnchat flurry, I'll attempt to make tweets relevant to all listeners. No pt following me if you don't enjoy learning tho.
8:34:40 pm BradStokes: Brad Stokes Wollongong Australia http://www.bradstokes.com.au http://www.mtraining.com.au Elearning Consultant & Educational Design #lrnchat
8:34:41 pm LearnNuggets: Kevin Thorn – AutoZone, Memphis TN. LMS Admin, eLEarning dev #lrnchat
8:34:44 pm lrnchat: 4) 5min before end, tell us if you need anything from the other #lrnchat participants. Time to reintroduce yourself, too. Links welcome.
8:35:01 pm LearnNuggets: @emeraldrgn You're in Memphis? How long? #lrnchat
8:35:03 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, Walnut Creek CA, learning geek, technophile, debunker of myths, gadfly, gun-for-hire #lrnchat
8:35:06 pm roninchef: Hey all. Mason Masteka, Elearning Developer in Portland, ME. This week I learned that sometimes you have to RTFM. Sigh. #lrnchat
8:35:14 pm gminks: Gina/outside boston/ Technical training developer and community mgr for #EMC, grad student at FSU, learnscapes/infrml learning #LRNCHAT
8:35:21 pm jwillensky: Jason Willensky, instructional design consultant, Phoenix, AZ #lrnchat
8:35:43 pm MariaDroujkova: Cary, NC, Math 2.0 (#mathchat here), math clubs, early algebra #lrnchat #lrnchat http://twubs.com/lrnchat
8:35:57 pm LearnYourLesson: Robin Rose, Richmond VA & DC. learning consultant, eLearning and Internship Programs. #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:36:06 pm gminks: This week I learned how to install moodle, and that renaming assets for a rebranding name change really SUCKS🙂 #LRNCHAT
8:36:15 pm lrnchat: 5) When writing in, complete thoughts help followers outside chat learn from you. #lrnchat
8:36:20 pm JaneBozarth: and oh yes I work for the gubmint. #lrnchat
8:36:26 pm Spydeesense: Hi #lrnchat & apologies to any followers following right now but it's just learning, right? Marcus Hswe, Tandem Learning & I'm a learnaholic
8:36:39 pm jrschifff: Jana from Vancouver BC. instructional designer new to the discussion but not to social media #lrnchat
8:36:41 pm hamtra: Hi Everyone. I like Clark's tagling….Learnin Geek. Newmarket, Ontario, CDN #lrnchat
8:36:42 pm richardsheehy: Richard Sheehy, Upstate SC, instructional design fanatic, #lrnchat
8:36:52 pm LauraMattis: Laura Mattis, Accelerated Business Results, Cincinnati OH/Falls Church VA, training solutions provider, soft skills, eLrng, mLrng #lrnchat
8:37:05 pm lrnchat: 6) Periodically RT questions so others outside #lrnchat know what you're talking about and can chime in.
8:37:07 pm LearnNuggets: This week I learned I enjoy drawing cartoons much more than researching learning stategies #lrnchat
8:37:22 pm KoreenOlbrish: @Spydeesense well hello there, my learning friend:) we're here at the same time? shocking! #lrnchat
8:37:47 pm Quinnovator: @hamtra nice to see you here! #lrnchat
8:37:48 pm lrnchat: 7) Remember to include the #lrnchat in all posts. http://twubs.com/lrnchat works great! Also, http://tweetchat.com & http://tweetgrid.com
8:37:57 pm LearnYourLesson: RT @tmiket @ThomasStone: For Twitter followers who are not in L&D field, apologies for next 90 minutes of tweets that are part of #lrnchat
8:38:00 pm LauraMattis: LOL, nice to know someone besides my husband says this RT @JaneBozarth: and oh yes I work for the gubmint. #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:38:07 pm hamtra: I ran my first webinar this week and learned how to create forms in Adobe. #lrnchat
8:38:16 pm KoreenOlbrish: This wk I learned that Monty Python was right, Always look on the bright side of life…(pretend I just sang that) #lrnchat
8:38:22 pm JaneBozarth: This week I learned (again) that sometimes frustration can lead to a thinking breakthrough and better solution #lrnchat
8:38:25 pm busynessgirl: This week I learned more about the game design process than I could ever imagine. #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:38:32 pm JaneBozarth: And I learned about Shelfari #lrnchat
8:38:32 pm Quinnovator: @lrnchat tweetdeck also includes hashtags, at least in replies #lrnchat
8:38:57 pm tmiket: RT @JaneBozarth: This week I learned (again) that sometimes frustration can lead to a thinking breakthrough and better solution #lrnchat
8:38:58 pm marciamarcia: Virginia-based (tho wanna move to SE), @lrnchat alter-ego & moderator of this shindig, writer, speaker, learner, parent, goof. #lrnchat
8:39:05 pm lrnchat: Q0 (our weekly #lrnchat welcome, now also d @lrn2day) What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
8:39:12 pm BradStokes: I learned that 2:30 in the morning is a bad time to write assessment tools #lrnchat
8:39:16 pm hamtra: I'm also learning at this moment that it is hard to eat and ice cream cone and chat at the same time. #lrnchat
8:39:31 pm emeraldrgn: This week I learned about lrnchat #Lrnchat
8:39:34 pm carolwhit: I learned that I have to stay positive in this economy. #lrnchat
8:39:49 pm jwillensky: This week I learned that if a project doesn't seem kosher — stay away. #lrnchat
8:39:50 pm marciamarcia: @KoreenOlbrish Weffa thin mint? #lrnchat
8:39:51 pm JaneBozarth: @learnnuggets Finally gave up, walked away, came up w something better. #lrnchat
8:39:51 pm lrnchat: Tonight's #lrnchat theme is unorthodox & fun. What do you NOT want to hear more about?! ID, ROI, MBTI, ADDIE, Mager… Q1 in a sec.
8:40:02 pm Quinnovator: #lrnchat learned that agreeing to present about a topic is a great way to force you to learn about it😉
8:40:07 pm Spydeesense: This week I learned that there's no preparing for that initial client mtg just be prepared to listen & speak fast #lrnchat
8:40:35 pm ThomasStone: Q0: Today I learned I can make some good money selling my old textbooks, other books, at Abebooks.com. $85 for 20 books! #lrnchat
8:40:35 pm gminks: RT @BradStokes: I learned that 2:30 in the morning is a bad time to write assessment tools #lrnchat
8:40:35 pm oxala75: hello all – i'm late again😦 #lrnchat
8:40:42 pm lrnchat: We're going to break topic into 3 categories: Q1) Overhyped concepts Q2) Misconstrued phrases Q3) Bad ideas. /b is why. #lrnchat
8:40:48 pm MarkMorganMA: Mark Morgan Massachussetts. this week I learned about the need for more social learning in my company. #lrnchat
8:40:53 pm LearnNuggets: Learned today that having a learning strategy is…well, doesn't seem that important. Ugh! #lrnchat
8:41:00 pm JaneBozarth: Ditto. RT @quinnovator #lrnchat learned that agreeing to present about a topic is a great way to force you to learn about it😉
8:41:02 pm sachauncey: Learning to live in Second Life — anyone great at scripting? #lrnchat http://twubs.com/lrnchat
8:41:14 pm MariaDroujkova: Q0 Today I learned that a song in a language I don't know with an abstract video can evoke the topic quite clearly, nonetheless. #lrnchat
8:41:23 pm LearnNuggets: @oxala75 Welcome, sir! 'Bout time. #lrnchat
8:41:30 pm KoreenOlbrish: i'm feeling a Monty Python medley coming on…😉 #lrnchat
8:41:32 pm roninchef: @oxala75 Welcome back. We are in for a fun ride tonight. #lrnchat
8:41:42 pm BradStokes: @sachauncey Try @jokay – absolute guru of ed and SL #lrnchat
8:41:52 pm LauraMattis: Learned about mobile learning today on ASTD webinar #lrnchat
8:41:59 pm LearnYourLesson: Yes! @JaneBozarth and @quinnovator RT #lrnchat learned that agreeing to present about a topic is a great way to force you to learn #lrnchat
8:42:04 pm marciamarcia: @BradStokes Some might argue that 2:30am is the best time to write assessment tools. #lrnchat
8:42:05 pm Spydeesense: @Quinnovator That sounds interesting! Topic? #lrnchat
8:42:06 pm LearnNuggets: RT #lrnchat learned that agreeing to present about a topic is a great way to force you to learn about it😉 #lrnchat
8:42:10 pm oxala75: @LearnNuggets home maintenance called :p #lrnchat
8:42:12 pm JaneBozarth: @KoreenOlbrish nobody ever expects the Spanish Inquisition #lrnchat
8:42:13 pm aussiechic: RT @Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, Walnut Creek CA, learning geek, technophile, debunker of myths, gadfly, gun-for-hire #lrnchat. Good guy!
8:42:31 pm Quinnovator: #lrnchat Q1: think virtual worlds are overhyped. Oh, there's real value, but still a lot of smoke
8:42:43 pm hamtra: @sachauncey scripting no, but finding free clothes I excel at. #lrnchat
8:42:54 pm KoreenOlbrish: i think its funny when our intro tweets get retweeted… #lrnchat
8:43:08 pm JaneBozarth: Running 3 computers tonight. Feel like Phantom of the Opera #lrnchat
8:43:12 pm LearnNuggets: @KoreenOlbrish Sing it! We'll pretend #lrnchat
8:43:13 pm Spydeesense: @KoreenOlbrish ALBATROSS! #lrnchat
8:43:13 pm marciamarcia: This week I learned that there's no preparing for that initial client mtg just be prepared to listen & speak fast #lrnchat RT @Spydeesense
8:43:30 pm gminks: I agree RT @Quinnovator #lrnchat Q1: think virtual worlds are overhyped. #LRNCHAT
8:43:30 pm roninchef: I just became a member of the Twub for #lrnchat at http://twubs.com/lrnchat
8:43:34 pm Quinnovator: @LearnNuggets learning strategy unimportant? I challenge that #lrnchat
8:43:36 pm busynessgirl: Q1 Overhyped concepts: learning management systems #lrnchat
8:44:05 pm ThomasStone: RT @Quinnovator Q1: think virtual worlds are overhyped. Oh, there's real value, but still a lot of smoke. #lrnchat
8:44:14 pm JaneBozarth: Q1 RE VWs maybe much of world just not ready? I met people this week who still delegate email #lrnchat
8:44:15 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Hello #lrnchat Sorry I'm late, dealing with a head wound – actually just a flesh wound really-on my 9 yr old-everyone is fine
8:44:21 pm BradStokes: Twitter is one of the overhyped. Very usefull but it is overbuzzed #lrnchat
8:44:21 pm KoreenOlbrish: @Quinnovator ok, just starting out there, huh? Virtual Worlds are high on technology and lacking in design. #lrnchat
8:44:22 pm hamtra: I still don't understand how twubs or twibes work???? Do I have to go to those pages for…..something?#lrnchat
8:44:25 pm Quinnovator: @Spydeesense topic is social media for customer service #lrnchat
8:44:34 pm oxala75: @roninchef thanks! oh, and Q1: ROI. #lrnchat
8:44:35 pm gminks: youre gonna get a visit from the cardinal!! RT @JaneBozarth @KoreenOlbrish nobody ever expects the Spanish Inquisition #LRNCHAT
8:44:49 pm LearnNuggets: Q0 Social Media in the workplace is overhyped. Just because its a hot trend doesn't mean it will work everywhere. #lrnchat
8:44:53 pm tmiket: @busynessgirl Totally agree about LMS being over valued but I'm not sure if it's hype or not? #lrnchat
8:44:59 pm KoreenOlbrish: @moehlert nice pull on the Python ref, just jumping in…i'm impressed #lrnchat
8:45:09 pm gminks: @KoreenOlbrish @Quinnovator the technology isn't that high — lots of room for improvement #LRNCHAT
8:45:26 pm hamtra: Q1. easy for me to get excited and play around in them, but finding other's in org to try it out even just to test. Difficult. #lrnchat
8:45:30 pm JaneBozarth: Q1 LMSs! #lrnchat
8:45:32 pm lrnchat: Q1: Which overhyped concepts are you OVER, tired of hearing about, unimpressed by…? Q1b: Why? #lrnchat
8:45:36 pm dwilkinsnh: Late again. David Wilkins, Executive Director of Product Marketing at Learn.com #lrnchat
8:45:55 pm carolwhit: Q1: resuable learning objects – I haven't ever seen them work or used correctly #lrnchat
8:46:01 pm dwilkinsnh: Overhyped concepts from the past? LCMS fo rizzle. #lrnchat
8:46:09 pm KoreenOlbrish: so VWs will only ever be as good as the learning design implemented in them…they r suffering from our lack of imagination #lrnchat
8:46:16 pm BradStokes: @hamtra Try tweetgrid.com brilliant for this kind of chat. Just visit and follow the instrucitons #lrnchat
8:46:17 pm LearnNuggets: @Quinnovator Learning strategy IS important…we don't have one. Arguing that we NEED one is exhausting and falls on deaf ears! #lrnchat
8:46:22 pm JaneBozarth: @gminks as long as I don't get a visit from the governor of SC #lrnchat
8:46:24 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Here we go. In the 1st place a watery tart tossing about cutlery is no way to govern a country
8:46:43 pm BradStokes: @carolwhit I have, flexiblelearning.net.au Brilliant for quick tools #lrnchat
8:46:53 pm oxala75: @BradStokes i agree, & I'm an evangelist @ work. ppl are doing what they always do: using big new thing & trying to mask problems #lrnchat
8:46:53 pm MariaDroujkova: Q1: The concept of "school" has been overhyped for a while, but less so lately. #lrnchat
8:46:57 pm roninchef: @Quinnovator Until they stop looking like old playstation games no one under 40 will take them seriously. #lrnchat
8:46:59 pm LearnYourLesson: Q1, yes, LMS's and SCORM. Why trap "learning" inside an LMS? To track or to control? #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:47:05 pm Quinnovator: @KoreenOlbrish I couldn't stand the anticipation😉 #lrnchat
8:47:08 pm richardsheehy: @moehlert I hope that is "tis nothing but a scratch" #lrnchat blame @KoreenOlbrish for the Monty Python inspirations she started it.
8:47:09 pm dbolen: human capital mgt system #lrnchat
8:47:15 pm KoreenOlbrish: @carolwhit oh, totally agree. i get a chill whenever i hear reusable learning object. Context is lacking…learning suffers! #lrnchat
8:47:20 pm marciamarcia: @busynessgirl With you that LMS is overhyped. Have great value, but can't end world hunger. Also, isn't the name an oxymoron? #lrnchat
8:47:29 pm MarkMorganMA: Q1 Twitter is great for this forum, but alot less useful in my companies context #lrnchat
8:47:38 pm moehlert: RT @gcorzine: Investors put nearly $14M into 5 virtual worlds companies in Q2 09- http://tinyurl.com/l29df5 (via @MargaretWallace) #lrnchat
8:47:38 pm jwillensky: Q1 ROI — important to crow about at the beginning; rarely measured w/ isolated variables at the end. #lrnchat
8:47:42 pm KoreenOlbrish: @richardsheehy I'm not dead yet! #lrnchat
8:47:42 pm LearnNuggets: Agreed! They're not what they're hyped to be. RT @JaneBozarth Q1 LMSs! #lrnchat
8:47:46 pm joycefromoz: hello everyone #lrnchat
8:47:56 pm BradStokes: @Quinnovator Second the SCORM tag. I get asked is it SCORM compliant by clients that will never use SCORM. #lrnchat
8:47:56 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @busynessgirl: Q1 Overhyped concepts: learning management systems #lrnchat
8:48:03 pm JaneBozarth: RT @roninchef re VWs Until they stop looking like old playstation games no one under 40 will take them seriously. #lrnchat
8:48:08 pm tmiket: Q1: Sharepoint sites are WAY overhyped in our org. #lrnchat
8:48:11 pm Quinnovator: RT @KoreenOlbrish: VWs will only be as good as the learning design implemented in them…suffering from our lack of imagination #lrnchat
8:48:11 pm dwilkinsnh: I second Clark on the virtual world thing. #lrnchat
8:48:17 pm moehlert: #lrnchat and then the LMS said "I'm not quite dead yet…."
8:48:26 pm wlonline: With @joycefromoz on #lrnchat
8:48:28 pm marciamarcia: @moehlert We had a double head trauma earlier today. Heads are never overhyped in my book. Good to hear all OK. #lrnchat
8:48:30 pm Spydeesense: @JaneBozarth Amen re: LMSs & @Quinnovator VWs – too much emphasis on horsepower not enough on getting from pt A to pt B #lrnchat
8:48:38 pm coachkiki: @moehlert Good question. What's the difference between hyped and over-hyped? #lrnchat
8:48:42 pm oxala75: @tmiket i wish we were at the SharePoint-is-so-overhyped stage at my org🙂 #lrnchat
8:48:42 pm JaneBozarth: Q1 Acronyms…ROI, LMS, SCORM…all hyped… #lrnchat
8:48:59 pm derekbruff: @busynessgirl can you manage learning? i like "course management system" since it better describes what these systems actually do #lrnchat
8:49:01 pm KoreenOlbrish: @dwilkinsnh No, no, no! lol, c'mon peeps…have you seen any good learning design in a virtual world? don't blame the tech! #lrnchat
8:49:02 pm MariaOD: Hi #lrnchat, sorry I'm late..out catching dinner!
8:49:05 pm moehlert: @MarkMorganMA Why pray tell? #lrnchat
8:49:06 pm LearnNuggets: To control. Its all about the KPI RT @LearnYourLesson Q1, Why trap "learning" inside an LMS? To track or to control? #lrnchat
8:49:06 pm oxala75: …this coming from someone who has to do some blitzkreig SharePoint training soon #lrnchat
8:49:25 pm gminks: Q1 virtual worlds, truly. Non-supportable technology, the tech needs to catch up for the Enterprise. #LRNCHAT
8:49:32 pm KoreenOlbrish: @oxala75 we call it Sharepointless. 'nuff said🙂 #lrnchat
8:49:38 pm JoanVinallCox: Q1 #lrnchat reuseable Learning Objects – overhyped because it takes less time to create yours than to search through available
8:49:58 pm TrainingTweet: hello. I'm new and late. I'm Amy – L&D Director at Pinnacol (in Denver). Usually miss #lrnchat. Happy to be here learning tonight.
8:50:10 pm marciamarcia: @LearnNuggets KPI? #lrnchat
8:50:19 pm Spydeesense: RT @KoreenOlbrish: VWs will only B as good as the learning design implemented in them…they suffer from our lack of imagination #lrnchat
8:50:23 pm KoreenOlbrish: @gminks there are some cool VW things coming soon…don't give up on them yet😉 #lrnchat
8:50:30 pm dwilkinsnh: I gotta disagree on LMS front (shocking I know) – I just know too many stories where they saved a company's bacon. #lrnchat
8:50:34 pm Quinnovator: @moehlert cynical: vendors often overhype to drive business; real: humans overgeneralize #lrnchat
8:50:38 pm joycefromoz: Q1 hype over technology (rather than people) #lrnchat
8:50:48 pm AmandaAllen1: i was just talking to someone who is newly using sharepoint. what's so bad about it? #LRNCHAT
8:50:58 pm JaneBozarth: RT @JoanVinallCox: Q1 #lrnchat reuseable Learning Objects – overhyped b/c it takes less time to create yours than to search through avai …
8:50:59 pm BradStokes: @JoanVinallCox http://lorn.flexiblelearning.net.au/ and it is free #lrnchat
8:50:59 pm Quinnovator: human capital, period! RT @dbolen: human capital mgt system #lrnchat
8:51:34 pm coachkiki: I'm late and exhausted – regret that I can't make it tonight. Topic sounds great. I'll check out the write-up. Have a good 1 all. #lrnchat
8:51:37 pm moehlert: @marciamarcia #lrnchat DBL head trauma trumps a single! Hope everyone there is fine too.
8:51:43 pm JaneBozarth: Raise your hand if someone who doesn't even know what an LMS does told you to go out and get one #lrnchat
8:51:56 pm Quinnovator: @BradStokes wasn't me, but yes, SCORM is one of those 'checklist' items that can be used as filter (w/o real comprehension) #lrnchat
8:51:57 pm marciamarcia: @JoanVinallCox Ouch. First wound. If reusable content objects take too long to find, system is seriously broken & your right! #lrnchat
8:51:58 pm JaneBozarth: It's about design, not software. #lrnchat
8:52:01 pm LearnYourLesson: @dwilkinsnh But aren't we outgrowing them? Isn't tracking available thru analytics? I see your pt if it's for compliance. #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:52:04 pm oxala75: @tmiket as long as they're being used to productive ends. support is a problem, of course… #lrnchat
8:52:15 pm gminks: I'm sick of hearing how the genYs learn differently than any other generation that came before them. My kids are genY, I call BS! #LRNCHAT
8:52:15 pm sillycows: @coachkiki mmmmmmmm #lrnchat
8:52:20 pm dwilkinsnh: @KoreenOlbrish best use of virtual world is physical world training: wreck a virtual car, walk around it 2 teach insurance adjsting #lrnchat
8:52:23 pm MarkMorganMA: @moehlert Twitter is more immediate than we usually need. the pace is not necessary for most issues and the IT objections are huge #lrnchat
8:52:37 pm LearnNuggets: SME – I hate that acronym. They forget what its like not to know what it is they're supposed to experts at #lrnchat
8:52:48 pm moehlert: @oxala75 #lrnchat Please tell me there is a methadone clinic for getting corp.s off Sharepoint! The 1st step is admitting u have Sharepoint
8:52:50 pm hamtra: RT @derekbruff: @busynessgirl can you manage learning? "course management system" better describes what these systems actually do #lrnchat
8:52:56 pm LearnNuggets: @gminks I second that B.S. #lrnchat
8:53:00 pm jwillensky: @moehlert To me, overhype = if touted as replacement for standard instead of complement. See "Is ADDIE dead?" #lrnchat
8:53:00 pm Quinnovator: Q1: another overhype: multiple intelligences! #lrnchat
8:53:09 pm carolwhit: I second @gminks – gen Y learners are still learners #lrnchat
8:53:15 pm BradStokes: Q1 concept of digital natives. Read that 10% of school leavers are HOSTILE to tech #lrnchat
8:53:16 pm JaneBozarth: @gminks Think maybe geny learning stuff is just another take on the 'blame the learner' game? #lrnchat
8:53:27 pm dbolen: @Quinnovator @moehlert the fully integrated end 2 end solution q1 #lrnchat
8:53:30 pm KoreenOlbrish: @dwilkinsnh actually that's just a 3D environment–best use is collaborative social immersive learning…but very few good examples #lrnchat
8:53:35 pm roninchef: RT @JaneBozarth It's about design, not software. Rock on. #lrnchat
8:53:38 pm dwilkinsnh: @LearnYourLesson I'm not sure we're outgrowing the compliance angle any time soon; agree though that we need to do *a lot* more #lrnchat
8:53:40 pm Quinnovator: @KoreenOlbrish VWs don't kill people, people kill people (also true for PPT) #lrnchat
8:53:43 pm marciamarcia: @Quinnovator No one here would ever overgeneralize. I'm sure. #lrnchat
8:53:44 pm JaneBozarth: Jason said ADDIE!! everyone take a drink! #lrnchat
8:53:45 pm MarkMorganMA: If you think an LMS is bad, try living with paper documentation and phone cals for a few years #lrnchat
8:53:51 pm ichrisbarnes: RT @JaneBozarth It's about design, not software. #lrnchat
8:54:02 pm gminks: Ok why is SharePoint so bad (we don't use it) #LRNCHAT
8:54:08 pm oxala75: @LearnNuggets yeah, that's our job🙂 #lrnchat
8:54:09 pm moehlert: @MarkMorganMA #lrnchat I hear ya. a twitter-like sys can really find its own pace though, can't it? And are the IT obj to an outside sys?
8:54:17 pm Quinnovator: @derekbruff though I like to think CMS is Content Management System #lrnchat
8:54:25 pm gminks: JaneBozarth Jason said ADDIE!! everyone take a drink! #LRNCHAT
8:54:31 pm dwilkinsnh: @KoreenOlbrish Sorry, ran out of room – was assuming a class standing around and sharing perspectives in that scenario #lrnchat
8:54:39 pm JoanVinallCox: @LearnNuggets YES! I hate KPIs so limiting and inhuman #lrnchat
8:54:56 pm moehlert: @dwilkinsnh #lrnchat so wait, the best use of a VW is to replicate that which we can already do in the physical world?
8:54:57 pm jwillensky: @JaneBozarth I'll be the DD. #lrnchat
8:54:58 pm carolwhit: @JaneBozarth @gminks yes, I work with gen Y and they are great learners, but don't like old style learning, and neither do I! #lrnchat
8:55:02 pm hamtra: @JaneBozarth we bought one from someone who didn't know what it was….LOL. Can you believe that one!!!! #lrnchat
8:55:14 pm gminks: maybe … RT @JaneBozarth: @gminks Think maybe geny learning stuff is just another take on the 'blame the learner' game? #lrnchat
8:55:15 pm Spydeesense: @dwilkinsnh We might want to look to VWs 4 overlapping on the job decisions & mine some of that socialization of lrning gold #lrnchat
8:55:21 pm spotlearning: I'm late to #lrnchat and this will be my first time…if I can keep up. '-) #lrnchat
8:55:23 pm MariaOD: @gminks Yeah! Drink! #lrnchat
8:55:43 pm JaneBozarth: @carolwhit @gminks I am the world's oldest Millenial #lrnchat
8:55:48 pm oxala75: @moehlert ha – yeah, it's called the will to work collaboratively. #SharePoints a crutch, but they gotta walk. #lrnchat
8:55:50 pm gminks: @carolwhit @JaneBozarth @gminks none of us like the old learning style. Probably why we are all educators! #LRNCHAT
8:55:56 pm KoreenOlbrish: @dwilkinsnh yeah, that's what most people do…replicate archaic models. until that changes, little value outside of less travel #lrnchat
8:55:57 pm Spydeesense: Someone say ADDIE?! *glug* #lrnchat
8:56:15 pm Quinnovator: @dwilkinsnh LMSs can be useful (trying to map metrics to learning), but too often misused (can you say pre-test?) #lrnchat
8:56:20 pm BradStokes: @spotlearning That's always the challenge. #lrnchat
8:56:22 pm BradStokes: #lrnchat
8:56:27 pm carolwhit: @gminks yeah, have to second that too! #lrnchat
8:56:33 pm KoreenOlbrish: nobody say anything too smart or interesting…i need to get a drink🙂 #lrnchat
8:56:37 pm hamtra: @LearnNuggets good point, my SME's are hardly experts. They just know a bit more than the next. #lrnchat
8:56:46 pm roninchef: Q1 The general lack of understanding of how bandwidth works. "Why does the training freeze while I am VPNing in from Starbucks?" #lrnchat
8:56:48 pm oxala75: @moehlert well, no. i think the best use of VWs would be the customization/control of augmented physical situations #lrnchat
8:57:16 pm LearnNuggets: @dwilkinsnh @Quinnovator (can you say pre-test?) That's another thing that is over-hyped #lrnchat
8:57:21 pm dwilkinsnh: @oxala75 Bingo. #lrnchat
8:57:21 pm marciamarcia: @jwillensky I won't throw rocks at your "learning styles are overhyped" cause I suspect you don't mean fact ppl learn differently #lrnchat
8:57:26 pm Quinnovator: @dwilkinsnh actually, think VW best use is 3D social (which your example does) #lrnchat
8:57:40 pm tmiket: @gminks Takes LOTS of clicks to get around. Hard to find things. Crazy link urls…frustrating user experience for me. #lrnchat
8:57:53 pm ichrisbarnes: @jwillensky Why throw rocks? I agree. #lrnchat
8:57:54 pm BradStokes: Q1 Purely online learning solutions for physical tasks when blended works better. #lrnchat
8:57:59 pm gminks: LOL @roninchef Q1 The general lack of understanding of how bw works. Why does the training freeze while I am VPNing in frm Stabucks #LRNCHAT
8:57:59 pm jwillensky: @spotlearning Welcome. Have fun! #lrnchat
8:58:01 pm wlonline: For those who have teething problems with sharepoint, check out @mikeherrity – doing interesting stuff at school #lrnchat
8:58:10 pm spotlearning: #lrnchat Tired of hearing how our SumTotal 7.2 implementation is almost fixed…and having to work around to get it to work. #lrnchat
8:58:25 pm marciamarcia: @carolwhit That ol' thing wasn't a learning style, it was a teaching style we didn't like. Very few benefited from it. #lrnchat
8:58:28 pm MariaOD: @hamtra I have the opposite problem.My SMEs think they can do everything. Go ahead design and develop it yourself! #lrnchat
8:58:30 pm JoanVinallCox: @Quinnovator I disagree about M.I. if used as a theory, it can open yr eyes to see routes to help individuals learn #lrnchat
8:58:35 pm J_Schulz: @dwilkinsnh Great example, but I think that would be impractical in the physical world. #lrnchat
8:58:36 pm JaneBozarth: Q1 Didn't say LMS was bad, said overhyped. Many who want to buy don't even know why, just heard they should #lrnchat
8:58:48 pm dwilkinsnh: @KoreenOlbrish Would say the same about software sim; it replicates classroom traing, but it enables replay, practice, discovery… #lrnchat
8:58:49 pm Quinnovator: @spotlearning don't try to follow it all, just drink from the stream! #lrnchat
8:59:00 pm LearnNuggets: @hamtra What's worse is when you get a SME on a project and YOU know more than they do! #lrnchat
8:59:11 pm spotlearning: #lrnchat Saw some slick SP implementations at DevLearn a year ago, but haven't done any good ones myself. #lrnchat
8:59:15 pm oxala75: @MariaOD i love those SMEs🙂 #lrnchat
8:59:22 pm LearnNuggets: RT @JaneBozarth Q1 Didn't say LMS was bad, said overhyped. Many who want to buy don't even know why, just heard they should #lrnchat
8:59:28 pm ScottWyler: hi all… been a lurker… now diving into the deep end with you for my 1st #lrnchat #lrnchat http://twubs.com/lrnchat
8:59:32 pm carolwhit: @marciamarcia agreed, you are correct. Now if we could just get people to listen to us when we suggest changes to it… #lrnchat
8:59:34 pm JaneBozarth: RT @roninchef: Q1 lack of understanding of how bandwidth works. "Why does the training freeze while I am VPNing in from Starbucks?"#lrnchat
8:59:38 pm BradStokes: @LearnNuggets That's just funny. Happened to us all I think #lrnchat
8:59:40 pm marciamarcia: @spotlearning Don't expect to keep up. Consider it "learning by serendipity." Enjoy what you see. #lrnchat
8:59:45 pm spotlearning: @Quinnovator thanks for the tip…did you say firehose? #lrnchat #lrnchat
8:59:49 pm roninchef: Design by committee. Especially when the committee can never be in the same room at the same time and everyone has final say. #lrnchat
8:59:55 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @Quinnovator: @derekbruff though I like to think CMS is Content Management System #lrnchat
9:00:04 pm gminks: hey all of the developers in my dept are also SMEs. Be nice to SMEs!🙂 #LRNCHAT
9:00:08 pm moehlert: @dwilkinsnh #lrnchat Fine. I hear and agree but to say that's the best they can do…I think we're selling an awfully young medium short
9:00:09 pm LearnNuggets: On my second beer now… #lrnchat
9:00:09 pm viewinside: Preview Book – Applying Cognitive Science to Education by Frederick Reif – MITpress http://bit.ly/2NIfO #books #cognition #teaching #lrnchat
9:00:14 pm joycefromoz: Has technology become an end rather than a means to an end in communication? #lrnchat
9:00:20 pm oxala75: i have to say that more meetings have been launched off the idea of "what LMS should we sink our $ into?" than ships from Troy #lrnchat
9:00:22 pm gminks: (yes that means I am a SME too) #LRNCHAT
9:00:25 pm hamtra: ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE. Sorry. Ice cream makes me thirsty. #lrnchat
9:00:27 pm TrainingTweet: @spotlearning completely agree about Sum Total – and we haven't even fully implemented it yet! #lrnchat
9:00:28 pm KoreenOlbrish: @dwilkinsnh yes, don't get me wrong…vw's don't solve all problems, just allow for new opportunities, currently underutilized #lrnchat
9:00:34 pm tmiket: @roninchef Most committess I've seen can't agree to leave a burning building. 8-p #lrnchat
9:00:39 pm ichrisbarnes: @MariaOD Hey, no fair. Some of us are at a kids soccer practice. #lrnchat
9:00:41 pm Spydeesense: @oxala75 That's quite a nugget to leave out there! I agree it'd be superb application #lrnchat
9:00:43 pm MariaOD: @hamtra Canadians like to drink …alot #lrnchat…
9:00:53 pm BradStokes: @roninchef Ouch. Combine that with a dictorial Project Manager that once made 3 people cry in 10 min at a meeting… #lrnchat
9:00:56 pm roninchef: @ScottWyler Welcome! Picked a good night to dive in. #lrnchat
9:00:56 pm dwilkinsnh: @spotlearning Let me know when you get tired of Sum and I'll suggest something else… ; )#lrnchat
9:01:02 pm ScottWyler: 100% RT @roninchef: Design by committee. #lrnchat #lrnchat http://twubs.com/lrnchat
9:01:13 pm moehlert: @jwillensky #lrnchat What if item can replace though? Is OH really talk w/out implementation?
9:01:20 pm LearnNuggets: @joycefromoz Devloper SME's are cool. It's the Operations guys who have been at a desk longer than in the field that have lost it #lrnchat
9:01:25 pm justice_nd: RT @tmiket: @roninchef Most committess Ive seen cant agree to leave a burning building. 8-p #lrnchat
9:01:25 pm lrnchat: Just joining us and not sure what's the question? You can always check @lrnchat #lrnchat
9:01:34 pm gminks: This only counts as one, right? RT @hamtra ADDIE, ADDIE, ADDIE. Sorry. Ice cream makes me thirsty #LRNCHAT
9:01:39 pm Quinnovator: @marciamarcia prob with learning styles is misuse: differences, yes; categorize no! #lrnchat
9:01:44 pm BradStokes: @joycefromoz The medium replacing the message type of thing? Sometimes… #lrnchat
9:01:50 pm JaneBozarth: Ooops did I just type ROI out loud? Drink! #lrnchat
9:01:50 pm oxala75: @Spydeesense I work in a building full of federal workers engaging in language learning. Sometimes I am frustrated🙂 #lrnchat
9:01:55 pm spotlearning: @dwilkinsnh You had me at "Let"😉 #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:02:00 pm marciamarcia: @Quinnovator I think pre-tests are underhyped! Rather than using as bludgeon, they can help people know what final includes. #lrnchat
9:02:12 pm JaneBozarth: LOLOLOL !! RT @tmiket: @roninchef Most committess I've seen can't agree to leave a burning building. 8-p #lrnchat
9:02:18 pm jwillensky: @moehlert Agree. I think I take issue with a jumping-the-gun approach. Hard to explain in <140! #lrnchat
9:02:31 pm LearnNuggets: OK, what's all this VW talk? At first I thought it was about the actual car. #lrnchat
9:02:43 pm KoreenOlbrish: @marciamarcia oh baseline assessments TOTALLY underhyped. why does NO ONE do them? #lrnchat
9:02:49 pm roninchef: @BradStokes I need more PMs like that in my org. Ours tend to be a little iron deficient and fear the term "Drop Dead Date!" #lrnchat
9:02:50 pm twittes: Tweetchat's #lrnchat room: An online resource that allows you to follow a Twitter # tag – in this case Friday 10.. http://tinyurl.com/lv3r87
9:02:58 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Alrady losing track of what I've responded too. Drink!
9:03:17 pm busynessgirl: @marciamarcia @Quinnovator I prefer to see well-developed concept tests rather than "pretests" like the FCI #lrnchat
9:03:19 pm oxala75: @KoreenOlbrish @marciamarcia because they can't handle the truth #lrnchat
9:03:24 pm LearnYourLesson: @LearnNuggets Virtual World – like Second Life. #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:03:37 pm spotlearning: @marciamarcia @Quinnovator Pretests, IMHO are decent advance organizers, if done well…but for testing, little/no value. #lrnchat
9:03:48 pm LearnNuggets: @marciamarcia @Quinnovator Pre-tests are overhyped in how they’re used. Most don’t understand the true value. “Give ’em a pretest” #lrnchat
9:03:49 pm Quinnovator: @LearnNuggets ah, yes, VW = virtual world (Volkswagen is *so* last century) #lrnchat
9:03:52 pm BradStokes: @roninchef No you don’t! I’ve never seen anything so horrific totally derailed a 400k project. 2 quit that day #lrnchat
9:03:57 pm joycefromoz: @BradStokes #lrnchat Medium between machines or between people?
9:04:00 pm MarkMorganMA: I agree with the pretest revolt. They have limited value and take a lot to develop. Only good ones are the final tests recycled #lrnchat
9:04:03 pm ScottWyler: @KoreenOlbrish baseline assessments not used… for me, this ties into the design by committee issue… #lrnchat http://twubs.com/lrnchat
9:04:10 pm joycefromoz: @BradStokes Are we reaching a point where we can go back to our caves and simplyl let our machines talk to one another? #lrnchat
9:04:16 pm oxala75: will u all pummel me to death if i say that i’m a little tired of hearing the phrases ‘Web 2.0’ and ‘social media’? #lrnchat
9:04:32 pm JaneBozarth: @learnnuggets re “VW” last week it took me 5 mins to realize that FB meant ‘feedback’ not ‘facebook’ Q1 #lrnchat
9:04:38 pm Spydeesense: @moehlert Folks this is boxed wine we’re talking about I either need a smaller glass or stricter rules #lrnchat
9:04:42 pm LearnNuggets: @Quinnovator AHHH I see. Doh! VW = Virtual World, not Slug Bug #lrnchat
9:04:42 pm J_Schulz: .@mrch0mp3rs, @bschlenker: You guys are awfully quiet! #lrnchat
9:04:49 pm Quinnovator: #lrnchat acronym barriers: SL = 2nd Life or Social Learning, VW = car, CMS = course|content management system, need glossary
9:04:58 pm twittes1: Tweetchat’s #lrnchat room: An online resource that allows you to follow a Twitter # tag – in this case Friday 10.. http://tinyurl.com/lv3r87
9:05:00 pm MariaOD: @oxala75 me too…technically the web is not even version 2.0 yet! Ask Tim #lrnchat
9:05:05 pm MarkMorganMA: Pretest value is to show t”the sky is falling.” #lrnchat
9:05:05 pm moehlert: #lrnchat If you don’t have the de-classified, authentic manual on simple sabotage, go here and grab it http://tinyurl.com/5p7mru I’ll wait
9:05:07 pm roninchef: @BradStokes Maybe you’re right. Sounds like more trouble than good. #lrnchat
9:05:10 pm BradStokes: @joycefromoz Touche, the machines are the medium #lrnchat
9:05:11 pm JaneBozarth: RT @Spydeesense: @moehlert Folks this is boxed wine we’re talking about I either need a smaller glass or stricter rules #lrnchat
9:05:11 pm busynessgirl: @lrnchat Is what do you think is UNDERHYPED one of our questions tonight? #lrnchat
9:05:23 pm spotlearning: @Quinnovator I resemble that remark (VW) #lrnchat …you can learn a lot from a VW SL or car.😉 #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:05:27 pm KoreenOlbrish: @ScottWyler everyone wants ROI, but no one wants to put the effort into the baseline measurement. we need to work harder on that #lrnchat
9:05:28 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @Quinnovator: @marciamarcia prob with learning styles is misuse: differences, yes; categorize no! #lrnchat
9:05:32 pm Quinnovator: @busynessgirl better way to prepare learner for learning than abusive test on stuff we should *know* they don’t know #lrnchat
9:05:55 pm Quinnovator: @busynessgirl not the same as PBL, which puts problem first but not expected to be completed prior to learning #lrnchat
9:05:56 pm ThomasStone: RT @marciamarcia I think pre-tests are underhyped! Rather than using as bludgeon, they can help people know what final includes #lrnchat
9:06:01 pm LearnNuggets: I don’t feel so bad now🙂 RT @JaneBozarth re “VW” last week it took me 5 mins to realize that FB meant ‘feedback’ not ‘facebook’ #lrnchat
9:06:02 pm wlonline: Anyone read this piece re future of learning #lrnchat http://bit.ly/A4P1K
9:06:16 pm ScottWyler: @KoreenOlbrish too true! #lrnchat http://twubs.com/lrnchat
9:06:24 pm Dave_Ferguson: @KoreenOlbrish Everyone wants to go to heaven; nobody wants to die. #lrnchat
9:06:26 pm LearnNuggets: @KoreenOlbrish Koreen said ROI. Drink! #lrnchat
9:06:26 pm moehlert: @Spydeesense #lrnchat or maybe its just time to cowboy up there fella!🙂
9:06:29 pm Quinnovator: @spotlearning couldn’t agree less, only reason for pre-tests if lets learner ‘test out’. Otherwise, far better advance organizers #lrnchat
9:06:34 pm jwillensky: @moehlert Premium vodka definitely overhyped. #lrnchat
9:06:34 pm marciamarcia: Prob with learning styles is misuse: differences, yes; [pigeonhole] no! #lrnchat URT @Quinnovator #lrnchat
9:06:38 pm dwilkinsnh: EPSS, SCO, AICC, HCM, WBT, KM, SL — drink, drink, drink, drink, drink, drink, drink. You’re welcome Jane. #lrnchat
9:06:41 pm busynessgirl: @Quinnovator But good concept tests look at preconceptions more than un-knowledge. #lrnchat
9:06:57 pm MarkMorganMA: Everyone wants ROI, nobody believes it when it comes from the training group. #lrnchat
9:06:58 pm moehlert: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @KoreenOlbrish Everyone wants to go to heaven; nobody wants to die. #lrnchat
9:07:01 pm BradStokes: @ThomasStone Agree a self-test can actually contextuallise the learning that follows and opens dialog between trainer and learner #lrnchat
9:07:13 pm oxala75: @moehlert maybe not, but it’s starting to get that panacea feeling in meetings (“Just sprinkle some SoMe & it’ll be all good..!”) #lrnchat
9:07:20 pm JaneBozarth: HA! RT @MarkMorganMA: Everyone wants ROI, nobody believes it when it comes from the training group. #lrnchat
9:07:37 pm Quinnovator: #lrnchat, gone off on pre-tests before: http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=379
9:07:47 pm ScottWyler: um, can I find the drinking rules somewhere? (newbie question) #lrnchat http://twubs.com/lrnchat
9:07:55 pm Quinnovator: @oxala75 consider yourself pummeled. #lrnchat
9:07:55 pm MarkMorganMA: When it comes to ROI, I always remember that “Success has a thousand fathers” and somehow training doesn’t get paternity #lrnchat
9:08:03 pm dwilkinsnh: @MarkMorganMA That’s why learning orgs need to partner with functional groups and align with org initiatives. ROI against those. #lrnchat
9:08:11 pm gminks: is there a good wiki/list someplace for CMS LMS? #LRNCHAT
9:08:19 pm Quinnovator: @Spydeesense stick to beer, less debilitating #lrnchat
9:08:28 pm JaneBozarth: Yep! RT @Quinnovator: better way to prepare learner for learning than abusive test on stuff we should *know* they don’t know #lrnchat
9:08:35 pm gminks: drinking rules: http://lrnchatdrinkinggame.wikispaces.com/ #LRNCHAT
9:08:38 pm derekbruff: @Quinnovator CMS does function as content mgmt for most, but gradebook, discussion bd features move it into course mgmt for some #lrnchat
9:08:41 pm moehlert: @oxala75 #lrnchat Same when e-learning came along and m-learning and me-learning. Can hype invalidate a label?
9:08:45 pm oxala75: @dwilkinsnh EPSS – there’s one i haven’t heard in awhile. #lrnchat
9:08:52 pm Dave_Ferguson: Drink rule is like belief. Have to believe in something; I believe I’ll have Cotes-du-Rhone. #lrnchat
9:08:57 pm spotlearning: @Quinnovator I’ll give you that there are better advance organizers, but I’ve seen some pretests do the job fairly well. #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:08:58 pm BradStokes: Se I think that a self-test = openning of dialog and should provide chances for RCC and RPL #lrnchat
9:09:03 pm roninchef: @gminks Looking for a wiki or CMS/LMS? #lrnchat
9:09:04 pm KoreenOlbrish: Damn, did I start the ROI portion of the evening already? Not over hyped, not underhyped…2 much of a crutch for stagnancy #lrnchat
9:09:08 pm LearnNuggets: @oxala75 @moehlert Craig said SoMe. Drink! #lrnchat
9:09:12 pm MarkMorganMA: What is overhyped depends on the context… Premium Vodka is great if you don’t have to pay and it’s cold #lrnchat
9:09:16 pm marciamarcia: Sorry, @twubs. I’m leaving you tonight. Too many silly things taking up realestate, can’t customize enuf, happy to help u fix. #lrnchat
9:09:27 pm odguru: RT @KoreenOlbrish:everyone wants ROI,no one wants to put the effort into the baseline measurement.#lrnchat #lrnchat http://twubs.com/lrnchat
9:09:28 pm jwillensky: @marciamarcia Serious misuse, and two things clients “know”: behavioral objectives and learning styles. #lrnchat
9:09:29 pm Dave_Ferguson: @moehlert Hype can sometimes invalidate a label; hyphens almost always indicate hype. (It’s a contraction: hyp’e) #lrnchat
9:09:34 pm dwilkinsnh: @oxala75 I went old school. #lrnchat
9:09:34 pm oxala75: @Quinnovator alcohol and beatings. Like my 20s all over again! #lrnchat
9:09:36 pm gminks: @roninchef I’m not. I think someone may be.🙂 #LRNCHAT
9:09:36 pm busynessgirl: @hamtra I was thinking of digital libraries of learning objects (not text) … wasn’t clear on that. (overhyped) #lrnchat
9:09:38 pm bschlenker: #lrnchat Sorry we’re late! ID Symp Hopleaf team reporting for duty😉
9:09:39 pm hamtra: RT @gminks: drinking rules: http://lrnchatdrinkinggame.wikispaces.com/ #LRNCHAT nice job
9:09:40 pm joycefromoz: @marciamarcia profiles are like sillouhettes…give outlines but not specifics that can truly identify people. #lrnchat
9:09:43 pm spotlearning: #lrnchat Sometimes getting learners to know they don’t know is 1/2 the battle. #lrnchat
9:09:45 pm ScottWyler: @gminks Thx! #lrnchat http://twubs.com/lrnchat
9:09:59 pm BradStokes: I’m not talking an exam though, more a checklist of what I know, What I do and Documents I use. That way I can say Show me #lrnchat
9:10:12 pm tmiket: RT @spotlearning: #lrnchat Sometimes getting learners to know they don’t know is 1/2 the battle. #lrnchat
9:10:15 pm moehlert: @dwilkinsnh @koreenolbrish #lrnchat I hear ya but maybe search for ROI 2 soon, in front of design even, locks us into hard channels….
9:10:21 pm hamtra: Q1 I’m way over hyphenating (e-learning, m-learning) #lrnchat
9:10:38 pm tmiket: @spotlearning Some times getting trainers to know they don’t know is the OTHER half #lrnchat
9:10:40 pm roninchef: @gminks Ahh, gotcha. =) #lrnchat
9:10:45 pm lrnchat: Q2: What misconstrued phrases cause more laughter than real learning? Q2b: Why? Q2c: Examples of really silly use? #lrnchat
9:10:55 pm dwilkinsnh: @spotlearning So “not knowing” is 1/2 the battle? Damn you GI Joe! #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:11:05 pm KoreenOlbrish: mentoring i think is both overhyped and underhyped-there should be more, rarely is it done well #lrnchat
9:11:12 pm BradStokes: Q2 SCORM! #lrnchat
9:11:15 pm spotlearning: #lrnchat @hamtra Why wasn’t it ever e+learning anyway? #lrnchat
9:11:26 pm roninchef: @lrnchat ASSETS! #lrnchat
9:11:27 pm MarkMorganMA: @dwilkinsnh I agree with metrics, ROI is just a bit of a lagging and indirect measure #lrnchat
9:11:31 pm LearnNuggets: RT Sometimes more than half the battle @spotlearning Sometimes getting learners to know they don’t know is 1/2 the battle #lrnchat
9:11:37 pm gminks: Q2: Take it to the next level. I track it in meetings now. #LRNCHAT
9:11:48 pm moehlert: @ScottWyler #lrnchat Let’s call the rules…um….organic…yeah, that’s it.
9:11:55 pm oxala75: @lrnchat “LEarning professional”? :-
9:11:58 pm Dave_Ferguson: To improve pretest: (a) relate directly to my job, (b) call it smthing like “see what you need to learn.” Test= jr hi. #lrnchat
9:12:06 pm LearnYourLesson: @BradStokes Q2 Add “compliant” after SCORM and becomes even funnier. #lrnchat
9:12:11 pm Quinnovator: @MarkMorganMA yep, pre-test for delta’s is demonstrating that it’s needed, which you should know *before you started*! #lrnchat
9:12:24 pm marciamarcia: @jwillensky I hoped to go thru life w/o ever hearing “behavioral objectives” and “learning styles” in the same sentence. Sad/true. #lrnchat
9:12:24 pm oxala75: #lrnchat @lrchat “Learning professional”? “:-)
9:12:26 pm dbolen: are we playing bulls#%t bingo? #lrnchat
9:12:28 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q2: getting up to speed. really? what speed are we? what if you go over the speed limit? #lrnchat
9:12:37 pm BradStokes: RT @LearnYourLesson: @BradStokes Q2 Add “compliant” after SCORM and becomes even funnier. #lrnchat
9:12:41 pm spotlearning: #lrnchat @dwilkinsh When you put it like that, it sounds like I’m fighting with the learners…hmm rethinking strategy now.😉 #lrnchat
9:12:50 pm moehlert: RT @hamtra: RT @gminks: drinking rules: http://lrnchatdrinkinggame.wikispaces.com/ #LRNCHAT nice job WOW
9:12:58 pm Dave_Ferguson: “SCORM compliant” = “we spin better than the competition” #lrnchat
9:13:00 pm odguru: Pre-tests R4 lrnrs:content overview, appro gulp factor re:preparedness Getting’em used tht way, priceless #lrnchat http://twubs.com/lrnchat
9:13:11 pm jwillensky: @marciamarcia Jeez, now I feel guilty. #lrnchat
9:13:15 pm KoreenOlbrish: @oxala75 oh snap! you win Q2🙂 #lrnchat
9:13:20 pm MariaOD: @Quinnovator “Pre-tests are bad?” Our learners are always asking for them! #lrnchat
9:13:21 pm oxala75: “Subject matter expert”, but that may just be in the confines of my office. #lrnchat
9:13:27 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @spotlearning: #lrnchat Sometimes getting learners to know they don’t know is 1/2 the battle. Teaching writing taught me that #lrnchat
9:13:27 pm richardsheehy: RT @KoreenOlbrish: mentoring i think is both overhyped and underhyped-there should be more, rarely is it done well #lrnchat
9:13:34 pm oxala75: @Dave_Ferguson oh so true. #lrnchat
9:13:44 pm Quinnovator: @busynessgirl think I prefer to unearth preconceptions via alternatives to right answers, but could be something there (to ponder) #lrnchat
9:14:02 pm odguru: @ScottWyler I’d buy you one sailor… if we were a little closer. Good to see you here!! #lrnchat http://twubs.com/lrnchat
9:14:09 pm hamtra: Q2. Step up to the plate. Run with it. ugggg. #lrnchat
9:14:16 pm dbolen: workplace learning professional?, am I drummed out of ASTD? #lrnchat
9:14:18 pm Dave_Ferguson: @oxala75 I hate hate hate pronouncing s.m.e. as if it were Capt Hook’s first mate… #lrnchat
9:14:19 pm BradStokes: @MariaOD Pretests: Depends on the use. I think self analysis is part of ANY learning process. Pretest should be used that way #lrnchat
9:14:25 pm LearnNuggets: Q2 If on an LMS its a ‘content item’. If all content items are SCORM, then its ‘scalable objects’ for learning. #lrnchat
9:14:40 pm ThomasStone: agreed RT @KoreenOlbrish mentoring i think is both overhyped and underhyped-there should be more, rarely is it done well #lrnchat
9:14:42 pm gminks: RT @Dave_Ferguson @oxala75 I hate hate hate pronouncing s.m.e. as if it were Capt Hook’s first mate. #LRNCHAT
9:14:46 pm JaneBozarth: 2Q “learning styles” #lrnchat
9:14:46 pm busynessgirl: @Quinnovator For research purposes, some disciplines (physics) have used concepts inventories to measure effectiveness of methods. #lrnchat
9:14:53 pm avron: Joining #lrnchat discussion, late. Good evening, all. #lrnchat
9:14:54 pm Quinnovator: @bschlenker you said ID: drink! #lrnchat
9:14:56 pm oxala75: @Dave_Ferguson …”Schmee..!” bwahahaha #lrnchat
9:14:59 pm busynessgirl: Q2 “chunking” … god that cracks me up #lrnchat
9:15:00 pm ScottWyler: @odguru rain check! and thx again for turning me onto this little slice of joy #lrnchat http://twubs.com/lrnchat
9:15:04 pm hamtra: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @oxala75 I hate hate hate pronouncing s.m.e. as if it were Capt Hook’s first mate… #lrnchat LOL
9:15:08 pm bschlenker: RT @moehlert: RT @hamtra: RT @gminks: drinking rules: http://lrnchatdrinkinggame.wikispaces.com/ #LRNCHAT Mager😉
9:15:10 pm dwilkinsnh: @oxala75 Agree — let’s add “user-generated content” SME’s are gods, but those lowly workers don’t know sh*t – it #lrnchat
9:15:11 pm spotlearning: @KoreenOlbrish #lrnchat Helping mentors learn to mentor well is one of the things we’ve had success with. #lrnchat
9:15:22 pm LearnNuggets: SCORM conformant vs. SCORM compliant. WTF!? #lrnchat
9:15:33 pm KoreenOlbrish: @busynessgirl i just choked on my drink…chunking! ha! #lrnchat
9:15:40 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Q2 Can I just go with “e-learning” ? Has anybody ever actually sold or bought or made some “learning”? Lloyd Dobler where r u?
9:15:44 pm marciamarcia: @jwillensky 2 long themes in my work: benefits (& there are some) of learning styles & why behaviorism is (at best) for rats. #lrnchat
9:15:55 pm oxala75: @busynessgirl yeah, that always sounds either culinary or disquieting #lrnchat
9:15:56 pm joycefromoz: Experts are people who know more and more about less & less til they know everything about nothing at all #lrnchat
9:16:02 pm roninchef: @JaneBozarth Always reminds me of Kung-fu movies. What style are you? Tiger style. #lrnchat
9:16:07 pm Dave_Ferguson: @dwilkinsnh Big distinction between subject matter expert and exemplary performer. Latter actually does the job in question. #lrnchat
9:16:25 pm LearnNuggets: Q2 “Just In Time Training” Whew! Good thing we got that training in…its the end of the world! #lrnchat
9:16:29 pm mrch0mp3rs: @LearnNuggets don’t get me started… #lrnchat
9:16:35 pm ThomasStone: I think Neo in the Matrix could have said “SME me” when requesting knowledge via the port in this neck. #lrnchat
9:16:46 pm ScottWyler: Sounds like a great new dance! RT @KoreenOlbrish: @busynessgirl …chunking! ha! #lrnchat #lrnchat http://twubs.com/lrnchat
9:16:55 pm dwilkinsnh: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Big distinction between SME and exemplary performer. Latter actually does the job in question. #lrnchat
9:16:56 pm Dave_Ferguson: Scott Simmerman always says his perso type is GFNJ — Guy From New Jersey. #lrnchat
9:16:58 pm GillianP: Hm. Looks like #lrnchat really good today but can’t be in two places at once and lost the start.
9:17:05 pm carolwhit: LOL! RT @LearnNuggets: SCORM conformant vs. SCORM compliant. WTF!? #lrnchat
9:17:06 pm gminks: RT @LearnNuggets Q2 “Just In Time Training” Whew! Good thing we got that training in…its the end of the world #LRNCHAT
9:17:09 pm roninchef: Job aids. Don’t like that one at all. #lrnchat
9:17:10 pm dwilkinsnh: @Dave_Ferguson Hoo ra. #lrnchat
9:17:16 pm LearnNuggets: @mrch0mp3rs Too late🙂 #lrnchat
9:17:21 pm Spydeesense: @moehlert Lloyd Dobbler became an assassin & shot the “e” off the front of “learning”#lrnchat
9:17:22 pm mrch0mp3rs: Live #lrnchat at hopleaf http://twitpic.com/9ueef
9:17:30 pm MariaOD: Q2-I cannot stand this spelling eLearning or worst all different ways-e-learning, Elearning, eLearning! #lrnchat
9:17:33 pm odguru: Pretests R4 lrners & fac.Content overview,readiness assessmt…getting em used tht way: priceless #lrnchat #lrnchat http://twubs.com/lrnchat
9:17:38 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @joycefromoz: Experts are people who know more and more about less & less til they know everything about nothing at all #lrnchat Agreed
9:17:42 pm KoreenOlbrish: @moehlert Lloyd Dobbler ref? Drink😉 #lrnchat
9:17:43 pm hamtra: q2. We use “Train the Trainer” always. Do you know how much they are now responsible for?!? #lrnchat
9:17:43 pm moehlert: RT @GigaOMPro: Next week: A virtual worlds and MMO research brief from none other than @slhamlet #lrnchat
9:17:54 pm spotlearning: #lrnchat SMEs sometimes think everyone else needs to know everything they know…fie, I say. #lrnchat
9:17:58 pm oxala75: @Quinnovator it is a shame that the best that has been proffered as a remedy is “serious games” :_ #lrnchat
9:18:03 pm busynessgirl: Can I add Q1.5: What do you think is underhyped? #lrnchat
9:18:12 pm BradStokes: @MariaOD Throw in mlearning and we go to peices🙂 #lrnchat
9:18:20 pm jwillensky: Q2 Myers-Briggs often misconstrued as justification for behavior: “Sorry I chopped off your hand. I’m a J.” #lrnchat
9:18:34 pm JaneBozarth: http://twitpic.com/9uej7 – Q2 6×6 rule #lrnchat
9:18:35 pm Quinnovator: @MariaOD liking pre-tests just shows they have lots to learn😉 #lrnchat
9:18:39 pm MariaOD: @odguru I like skill assessment. We use it during the analysis/planning to see gap. #lrnchat
9:18:42 pm mrch0mp3rs: @J_Schulz SWEET. now it’s a #lrnchat AND a #bss Meetup
9:18:44 pm LearnNuggets: True Dat! RT @MariaOD Q2-I cannot stand this spelling eLearning or worst all different ways-e-learning, Elearning, eLearning! #lrnchat
9:18:47 pm oxala75: @roninchef yeah, i’d like another term for that as well, since i love the actual concept. #lrnchat
9:18:53 pm BradStokes: @jwillensky lol #lrnchat
9:18:58 pm roninchef: @busynessgirl Q 1.5 Ambient learning. #lrnchat
9:19:01 pm LearnYourLesson: RT @jwillensky Q2 Myers-Briggs often misconstrued as justification for behavior: “Sorry I chopped off your hand. I’m a J.” #lrnc #lrnchat
9:19:14 pm joycefromoz: @dwilkinsnh those that can do..those that can’t become experts #lrnchat
9:19:18 pm dwilkinsnh: How about Human Resources? I hate that term. People aren’t things. #lrnchat
9:19:25 pm oxala75: @jwillensky oh man – i can’t believe i didn’t think of Myers-Briggs in response to Q1… #lrnchat
9:19:32 pm busynessgirl: @roninchef define ambient learning? #lrnchat
9:19:35 pm marciamarcia: Seriously. Something about learning brings out the porn spam to my follower list? There’s something to be learned here. Ick. #lrnchat
9:19:40 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @jwillensky: Q2 Myers-Briggs often misconstrued as justification for behavior: “Sorry I chopped off your hand. I’m a J.” #lrnchat
9:19:42 pm JaneBozarth: Q2 @jwillensky Myers-Briggs also misconstrued as… valid #lrnchat
9:19:43 pm roninchef: @oxala75 I do too, the name just breaks me out of my focus. #lrnchat
9:19:49 pm MarkMorganMA: It’s all about the context. One person thinks it’s overhyped, the other thinks is priceless #lrnchat Probably need it all, use it right
9:19:54 pm ScottWyler: @spotlearning then someone can be “El Shmee” #lrnchat http://twubs.com/lrnchat
9:20:13 pm jwillensky: @oxala75 Me too! It’s like missing the Hindenburg. #lrnchat
9:20:17 pm MariaOD: Q2- Can we all agree to stop saying “e” altogether…It’s just learning. Does it matter if its “e”, asynch or synch? #lrnchat
9:20:20 pm moehlert: @dwilkinsnh #lrnchat or Capital right?
9:20:24 pm tmiket: Q1.5: Being able to FIND the answer instead of having to know ALL possible answers #lrnchat
9:20:26 pm Dave_Ferguson: Call job aids “cheat sheets,” “OTJ refs,” “quick guides,” or wombats if folks don’t have to memorize needlessly. #lrnchat
9:20:27 pm LearnNuggets: Nope, we’re “resources” RT @dwilkinsnh How about Human Resources? I hate that term. People aren’t things. #lrnchat
9:20:28 pm gminks: yall are killin me!! RT @ScottWyler @spotlearning then someone can be “El Shmee” #LRNCHAT
9:20:33 pm oxala75: @marciamarcia i am totally going to leave that one alone. #lrnchat
9:20:34 pm BradStokes: @MarkMorganMA Right tool for the job for the person at that time… #lrnchat
9:20:47 pm KoreenOlbrish: @dwilkinsnh i hear you on HR, but i used to work for a company that called the dept “Valuable Assets” &trust me, that was laughable #lrnchat
9:21:08 pm Dave_Ferguson: @MariaOD If you stick e in front of it, you can charge $25 more per hour. $45 with the hyphen. $65 w/ “2.0” on the end. #lrnchat
9:21:18 pm dwilkinsnh: @moehlert Yeah same issue. Capital is something you buy or spend. People are renewable and benefit from being shared. #lrnchat
9:21:28 pm tmiket: Talent Management? Sounds like Star Search or American Idol to me #lrnchat
9:21:39 pm BradStokes: @Dave_Ferguson Wombats. I like that. I’ll call mine Wanda #lrnchat
9:21:45 pm roninchef: @busynessgirl All around you, in the learners path. They don’t realise they’re learning, they’re just doing it. No clicking away. #lrnchat
9:21:46 pm lrnchat: Just joining us and not sure what’s the question? You can always check @lrnchat #lrnchat
9:21:49 pm busynessgirl: RT @MariaOD If you stick e in front of it, you can charge $25 more per hour. $45 with the hyphen. $65 w/ “2.0” on the end. #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:21:53 pm MarkMorganMA: @Dave_Ferguson Job aids are the best for me. A learning event without job aids is like peanut butter without jelly #lrnchat
9:22:02 pm JaneBozarth: Q2 best practices #lrnchat
9:22:11 pm Quinnovator: @busynessgirl that sounds like post-test, not pre. Mostly talking corp lrng, but not a big fan of deltas, use competencies! #lrnchat
9:22:11 pm wlonline: @gminks sure there r lists out there 4 CMS/LMS; have to chk bookmarks #lrnchat
9:22:12 pm hamtra: RT @Dave_Ferguson: If you stick e in front of it, you can charge $25 more per hour. $45 with the hyphen. $65 w/ “2.0” on the end #lrnchat
9:22:12 pm moehlert: @dwilkinsnh #lrnchat JUst like Knowledge can be “managed”…?🙂
9:22:14 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @Dave_Ferguson: If you stick e in front of it, you can charge $25 more per hour. $45 with the hyphen. $65 w/ “2.0” on the end. #lrnchat
9:22:20 pm LearnNuggets: I just spilled my beer! RT @gminks yall are killin me!! RT @ScottWyler @spotlearning then someone can be “El Shmee” #lrnchat
9:22:23 pm dwilkinsnh: @KoreenOlbrish Interestingly enough, my daughter kicked a ball into my “Valuable Assets” this afternoon. #lrnchat
9:22:32 pm hamtra: You all have me laughing so much my stomach hurts. #lrnchat
9:22:43 pm roninchef: Q2 Lessons learned. #lrnchat
9:22:57 pm BradStokes: The question though is have we moved from learning to simply responding to stimuli. “Let’s click and see” #lrnchat
9:22:58 pm marciamarcia: How about we agree MBTI “misconstrued as consistent, explanation of everything”? I’d say that abt learning styles too. #lrnchat
9:23:04 pm oxala75: RT @dwilkinsnh: @KoreenOlbrish Interestingly enough, my daughter kicked a ball into my “Valuable Assets” this afternoon. #lrnchat
9:23:08 pm spotlearning: @KoreenOlbrish That explains much #lrnchat #bss #lrnchat
9:23:19 pm gminks: @LearnNuggets #lrnchat foul!🙂 #LRNCHAT
9:23:21 pm LearnNuggets: @marciamarcia @lrnchat Tonight’s chat is a HOOT! We should do an “Unorthodox & Fun” chat once a month! #lrnchat
9:23:36 pm spotlearning: or should I say e- #lrnchat ? #lrnchat
9:23:39 pm tmiket: @roninchef Lessons Learned that are never really learned nor applied are even worse #lrnchat
9:23:57 pm jwillensky: @JaneBozarth Yeah, but without M-B seminars we’d be left to our own devices to waste that time. #lrnchat
9:24:05 pm MarkMorganMA: @dwilkinsnh I guess they’re not so valuable anymore #lrnchat
9:24:05 pm BradStokes: @spotlearning e-stimuli? #lrnchat
9:24:23 pm moehlert: @Spydeesense #lrnchat “We could be working together again..You know? Making big money, killing important people!”
9:24:27 pm Dave_Ferguson: @BradStokes SOME (not all) click to see can be learning. (Tho’ some can be just reinforcement of weak methods –> superstition) #lrnchat
9:24:27 pm Quinnovator: @GillianP just jump in, Q2: misconstrued terms #lrnchat
9:24:32 pm oxala75: @tmiket @roninchef oh “lessons learned” – that one has been making my eyes roll for about a month now. #lrnchat
9:24:35 pm dwilkinsnh: @moehlert Is it as disturbing to you as it is to me that we apparently find the entire nomenclature of our space to be inaccurate? #lrnchat
9:24:51 pm busynessgirl: See you guys later … I’m in San Francisco and going out to dinner on this beautiful sunny evening. #lrnchat
9:24:56 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @hamtra: You all have me laughing so much my stomach hurts. #lrnchat
9:24:57 pm MariaOD: While I cannot stand taking objective tests I find great joy in creating them. Am I evil? #lrnchat
9:25:00 pm Spydeesense: Q2: Highly interactive & engaging content Q2b: learning professional equivalent of “uhhhhhh” Q2c: every time I use it in a proposal #lrnchat
9:25:09 pm Dave_Ferguson: @LearnNuggets No, next month is the Reform Lrnchat. #lrnchat
9:25:10 pm spotlearning: e-pretests administered by e-HR…would probably send us all to the ER #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:25:18 pm Quinnovator: @spotlearning exactly, focus on what they can *do* differently, not what know (has to do with expert unconsciousness) #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:25:18 pm oxala75: @dwilkinsnh @moehlert i think we’re just tragically, perfectly built to appreciate semantic value. #lrnchat
9:25:26 pm roninchef: @tmiket That is every all-hands meeting I have ever been to. Even when I was cooking. #lrnchat
9:25:30 pm oxala75: @busynessgirl have fun! #lrnchat
9:25:34 pm BradStokes: @Dave_Ferguson Agree, but where is the line drawn. Click to see can be targeted at my toddler…🙂 #lrnchat
9:25:36 pm odguru: @dwilkinsnh We are allowing ourselves to poke fun at our own race, perhaps. #Lrnchat
9:25:50 pm spotlearning: @MariaOD Welcome to the e-DarkSide. #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:25:51 pm JaneBozarth: @jwillensky Yes, let’s not forget it is an industry, after all #lrnchat
9:25:54 pm Dave_Ferguson: @dwilkinsnh The “nomenclature” is driven by half-remembered psych, branding, and almost willful aversion to evidence. #lrnchat
9:25:56 pm carolwhit: @roninchef I see that I’m missing quite a bit being an outside consultant! I haven’t heard “lessons learned” in quite a while! #lrnchat
9:26:00 pm LearnNuggets: @Dave_Ferguson Or the intervention chat! #lrnchat
9:26:11 pm KoreenOlbrish: Learning outcomes, anyone? i mean, what does that mean??? #lrnchat
9:26:13 pm moehlert: @dwilkinsnh #lrnchat Yes.
9:26:40 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @MariaOD: While I cannot stand taking objective tests I find great joy in creating them. Am I evil? #lrnchat Just a little ;->
9:26:42 pm moehlert: RT @JaneBozarth: @jwillensky Yes, let’s not forget it is an industry, after all #lrnchat Post-Industrial Revolution! Drink!
9:26:48 pm Quinnovator: @busynessgirl underhyped: reflection… #lrnchat
9:26:51 pm Spydeesense: @moehlert What am I going to say? I killed the president of the client company with a virtual world how have u been? #lrnchat
9:26:55 pm gminks: how about modality. Weird sounding term. #LRNCHAT
9:26:57 pm mrch0mp3rs: Alright. Is it E-Learning or eLearning? Frigging make up our minds, ppl!!! #lrnchat
9:26:59 pm JaneBozarth: I can’t believe no one responded to this? I am RT myself Q2 6×6 rule for visuals http://twitpic.com/9uej7 – Q2 6×6 rule #lrnchat
9:27:03 pm roninchef: @carolwhit I hear it every time we wrap up a project. I like the concept, hate the term. #lrnchat
9:27:04 pm jwillensky: @oxala75: @dwilkinsnh @moehlert There’s money in that there linguistic fuzziness. #lrnchat
9:27:05 pm moehlert: RT @torridluna: And nerver forget(!): It’s the Volts the jolts, but the Mills that kills! (LaeMi: http://is.gd/1sRR8) #tesla #lrnchat
9:27:09 pm LearnNuggets: @KoreenOlbrish It’s what comes out the other end I guess. #lrnchat
9:27:34 pm oxala75: @mrch0mp3rs I’m fond of the second, but i’m a bit of a poseur #lrnchat
9:27:36 pm dwilkinsnh: @oxala75 Nice. Well said. I appreciate the semantic value of your semantic value tweet… ; ) #lrnchat
9:27:49 pm carolwhit: @roninchef Yeah, especially since it’s usually a wasted exercise #lrnchat
9:27:52 pm Dave_Ferguson: @BradStokes See-what-this-does beneficial for ‘nonrecurrent’ skills (in some cases); helps indiv develop own cognitive schemes… #lrnchat
9:27:52 pm moehlert: @KoreenOlbrish #lrnchat Does that mean there is a “learning income”?
9:28:00 pm tmiket: @jwillensky The bigger and fuzzier the words the higher your hourly rate? #lrnchat
9:28:01 pm BradStokes: @mrch0mp3rs Why not elearning or Elearning. My preference is the first #lrnchat
9:28:02 pm Spydeesense: @KoreenOlbrish My favorite is simply “learnings” #lrnchat
9:28:13 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Learning outcomes, anyone? i mean, what does that mean??? #lrnchat It means jobs for Learning Experts!
9:28:21 pm oxala75: @JaneBozarth 6×6 rule? #lrnchat
9:28:26 pm odguru: @KoreenOlbrish Learning outcomes R kind of the fashion police fodder for learning pros.”Did you see his/her L.O’s?? Oh my gawd!!” #Lrnchat
9:28:32 pm hamtra: I just became a member of the Twub for http://twubs.com/lrnchat
9:28:36 pm KoreenOlbrish: @moehlert oh, there better be a learning income😉 #lrnchat
9:28:38 pm LearnNuggets: All lowercase w/ no hyphe. Less keystrokes! RT @mrch0mp3rs Alright. Is it E-Learning or eLearning? Frigging make up our minds, ppl! #lrnchat
9:28:59 pm JaneBozarth: @koreenolbrish Roger Schank would say learning outcomes are what training dept has figured out how to teach #lrnchat
9:29:12 pm oxala75: @jwillensky @dwilkinsnh @moehlert obfuscation skillz to pay the billz. #lrnchat
9:29:16 pm JaneBozarth: @koreenolbrish… not to be confused w/ performance outcomes #lrnchat
9:29:19 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @odguru: Learning outcomes R kind of the fashion police fodder for learning pros.”Did you see his/her L.O’s?? Oh my gawd!!” #Lrnchat
9:29:27 pm spotlearning: @Quinnovator Agree on reflection. Powerful learning device. Simple, but powerful. All learning happens between the ears. #lrnchat
9:29:31 pm BradStokes: @moehlert Like everything it’s about finding the right context #lrnchat
9:29:34 pm gminks: Agree. Are we definitively deciding this tonight? RT @LearnNuggets All lowercase w/ no hyphe. #LRNCHAT
9:29:40 pm oxala75: @moehlert my wife’s an accountant, so there’d better be. #lrnchat
9:29:49 pm MariaOD: I’ve seen it all! E.learning! Finger nail on the chalk board! #lrnchat
9:29:54 pm Dave_Ferguson: @BradStokes …see my still-not-ended series of posts re “Ten Steps to Complex Learning” http://bit.ly/cWqfF #lrnchat
9:29:55 pm dbolen: Roger Shank DRINK! #lrnchat
9:30:05 pm viewinside: Preview – Augmented Learning by Eric Klopfer by MITpress http://bit.ly/pYTsU #books #games #research #edutainment #mobile #gaming #lrnchat
9:30:07 pm JaneBozarth: @oxala75 old rule that ppt slides should have no more than 6 lines X 6 words #lrnchat
9:30:19 pm moehlert: @Spydeesense #lrnchat If my training shows up at your door, chances are you did something to bring me there….
9:30:37 pm gminks: @MariaOD haha so true about pedagogical #LRNCHAT
9:30:37 pm JaneBozarth: @spydeesense and mine is “trainings” #lrnchat
9:30:49 pm dwilkinsnh: @Dave_Ferguson I coined the term IPSS in the 90’s – integrated performance support. Why? So we could sell more value than EPSS. #lrnchat
9:30:57 pm BradStokes: RT @moehlert: @Spydeesense #lrnchat If my training shows up at your door, chances are you did something to bring me there….
9:30:58 pm KoreenOlbrish: @JaneBozarth and performance outcomes are what people have figured out how to do?🙂 #lrnchat
9:31:04 pm oxala75: @JaneBozarth aha… also: what? #lrnchat
9:31:10 pm jwillensky: @tmiket More like — they pay us to undo liguistic knots and clarify🙂 #lrnchat
9:31:14 pm marciamarcia: @dbolen Bless you. I was thinking that same thing, and I don’t even have a drink in my hand. #lrnchat
9:31:28 pm lrnchat: Q3: What bad idea surfacing in workplace learning ought to be retired? Q3b: Why? Q3c: Could it be adapted to something smarter? #lrnchat
9:31:28 pm dwilkinsnh: @marciamarcia In most of the rest of world, they don’t use “best practices,” they use “better practices.” #lrnchat
9:31:32 pm hamtra: @JaneBozarth Now it’s one great picture and one great sentence per slide. #lrnchat http://twubs.com/lrnchat
9:31:36 pm tmiket: @Quinnovator Amen. I’ve seen to much “spicing it up” HATE that. #lrnchat
9:31:36 pm oxala75: @MariaOD now there’s a rare sighting..! #lrnchat
9:31:55 pm BradStokes: @gminks Quickest way to spot a poser is someone asking the q, “Yes but what is the pedagogy of the xyz?” #lrnchat
9:32:14 pm spotlearning: #lrnchat I once saw Shank rip his GA’s a new one at ISPI because his technology failed and he was unprepared. sad…lost much rspct #lrnchat
9:32:16 pm Spydeesense: @moehlert I freaked out, joined the army, went into business for myself, I’m a learning profressional #lrnchat
9:32:24 pm Dave_Ferguson: 6×6 rule? I have a 2/3/4: avoid workshops/confs with 2 colons or 3 clauses in titlem or 4 gurus w/shaved heads on home page. #lrnchat
9:32:32 pm JaneBozarth: @oxala75 sorry what what? #lrnchat
9:32:51 pm hamtra: Q3. Train the Trainer. They only reteach the bits THEY feel are important. #lrnchat http://twubs.com/lrnchat
9:32:59 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q3: oh geez, i hate to say this, but replicating existing training in virtual worlds should be retired. build something new! #lrnchat
9:32:59 pm roninchef: @lrnchat Allowing different depts to get their own LMS. ‘Cause upstream doesn’t think there is anything wrong with the 1 we got. #lrnchat
9:33:14 pm tmiket: Q3: Most train the trainers are more like train whoever we can afford to send away from the job; ergo not so great results #lrnchat
9:33:15 pm dbolen: @dwilkinsnh or leading practices #lrnchat
9:33:18 pm oxala75: @JaneBozarth just noting that i understood what you explained and then did as best a spit take as one can do on Twitter #lrnchat
9:33:24 pm gminks: Q3: complete social learning, w no design or thought of performance. Ya need more than a recorded demo & ppts posted in a community #LRNCHAT
9:33:30 pm Dave_Ferguson: @dwilkinsnh So you can repackage it now as e-IPSS 3.0. (send me check) #lrnchat
9:33:44 pm BradStokes: @lrnchat unstructured Point of View POV videos assessing multiple items simultaineously #lrnchat
9:33:49 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @JaneBozarth: @oxala75 old rule that ppt slides should have no more than 6 lines X 6 words #lrnchat Old rule? Still good, I think.
9:34:02 pm BradStokes: Q3. RT @BradStokes: @lrnchat unstructured Point of View POV videos assessing multiple items simultaineously #lrnchat
9:34:21 pm moehlert: @Spydeesense #lrnchat “Everybody’s coming back to take stock of their lives. You know what I say? Leave your livestock alone.”
9:34:35 pm dwilkinsnh: @Dave_Ferguson It’s in the mail… #lrnchat
9:34:55 pm moehlert: @JaneBozarth #lrnchat I’m positive that it did.
9:35:00 pm roninchef: Q3 Lunch and Learns. The concept just won’t die. #lrnchat
9:35:03 pm JaneBozarth: @spotlearning Reminds me of college prof who turned, hit chalk on board & broke it, blamed the chalk #lrnchat
9:35:17 pm oxala75: @LearnNuggets take care! #lrnchat
9:35:28 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q3: let’s give everyone an iPhone! and no strategy for how to leverage it! nice phone, tho, don’t get me wrong😉 #lrnchat
9:35:33 pm jwillensky: RT @roninchef: Q3 Lunch and Learns. The concept just won’t die. SME -> Trainer -> IDD career progression trend? 4 competency sets…and much failure. #lrnchat
9:40:13 pm Dave_Ferguson: Goodnight, all…off early in the morning to see Hughie the Mountie (my dad–I use his pic here) #lrnchat
9:40:21 pm Spydeesense: RT @Dave_Ferguson: My fantasy Q for a client: So, how much of their job involves answering multiple-guess questions? #lrnchat
9:40:25 pm oxala75: @MariaOD i’d say that i don’t get to think about mlearning as much as i’d like. #lrnchat
9:40:26 pm jwillensky: RT @oxala75: @dwilkinsnh same here. it’s not new badness that i worry about, but old, resilient badness. #lrnchat
9:40:43 pm gminks: @Dave_Ferguson bye Dave! #LRNCHAT
9:40:45 pm oxala75: @Dave_Ferguson nite Dave! #lrnchat
9:40:55 pm Dave_Ferguson: @moehlert I have to say, I’ve seen more than one participant who couldn’t move w/o at least 3.5 on Richter scale. #lrnchat
9:41:01 pm LearnYourLesson: @moehlert @MariaOD #lrnchat If it’s performance support is it still learning? #lrnchat
9:41:31 pm MariaOD: @moehlert-@Quinnovator Yes. Mlearning is mostly PS. The Iphone people need to surrender control and add flash #lrnchat
9:41:35 pm oxala75: here’s a new trend at my org that i don’t like: e-learnign courses that are really info repositories. #lrnchat
9:41:42 pm BradStokes: RT @Dave_Ferguson: My fantasy Q for a client: So, how much of their job involves answering multiple-guess questions? #lrnchat
9:41:51 pm spotlearning: #lrnchat @jwillensky …and pattern badness…or baldness (quit worrying about that 20 yrs ago) ‘-) #lrnchat
9:41:59 pm wlonline: @JaneBozarth k #lrnchat
9:42:00 pm JaneBozarth: I have nice handout “how to pass most tests” for those forced to take them #lrnchat
9:42:15 pm JaneBozarth: I think I got it from Wm Horton #lrnchat
9:42:20 pm gminks: wow tweetchat freaking out some. #LRNCHAT
9:42:40 pm BradStokes: @oxala75 This is an old one. The “page turner” is more like regression than a new thing #lrnchat
9:43:01 pm moehlert: @MariaOD #lrnchat !st let’s forget about the technology, describe the user experience we want to engineer and then look for platforms….
9:43:14 pm tmiket: @JaneBozarth I think I may have seen that or one similar. Unfortunately it’s too true. #lrnchat
9:43:18 pm moehlert: @JaneBozarth #lrnchat Please to be sending me that handout.
9:43:18 pm JoanVinallCox: So long, Dave #lrnchat
9:43:39 pm JaneBozarth: @oxala75 Not e-learning, e-reading #lrnchat
9:43:41 pm jwillensky: @gminks One reason I’m glad I work from home — can pretend I’m in the bright, shiny future:-) #lrnchat
9:43:51 pm KoreenOlbrish: i’m still shocked by how many companies still pay $$$ for print modules. SHOCKED. At least put it on a Kindle or something… #lrnchat
9:43:58 pm marciamarcia: @LearnYourLesson Giggling at the idea performance support might not be learning. Thx for that. #lrnchat
9:44:02 pm TrainingTweet: I have to go now – thanks for a fun time. And, wow – how did I not know #lrnchat was a drinking game? you exceeded my expectations!
9:44:15 pm Quinnovator: @dwilkinsnh yes, definitely a role for knowledge test, but only *in service* of application! cf van merrienboer #lrnchat
9:44:28 pm spotlearning: @JaneBozarth and e-snoozing in many cases…I HATE BEING BORED! #lrnchat
9:44:37 pm ScottWyler: @tmiket or T3 is send ’em all so no feelings are hurt, even if they’ll never use it #lrnchat http://twubs.com/lrnchat
9:44:42 pm roninchef: @JaneBozarth e-boring #lrnchat
9:44:57 pm BradStokes: @MariaOD Disagree, Using Mlearn for nonliterate learners in a Vocational Sector. #lrnchat
9:45:05 pm LearnYourLesson:🙂 @marciamarcia Only in this group could we find this such fun! #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:45:22 pm MariaOD: @oxala75 Page Turner…wow…long time no hear #lrnchat. How about low-tech does that now mean PPT? #lrnchat
9:45:27 pm moehlert: @LearnYourLesson #lrnchat One term describes a product and one term describes an experience
9:45:29 pm tmiket: @spotlearning I hate being bored too. We actually have courses they make you retake if you didn’t spend “enough” time in them. UGH #lrnchat
9:45:31 pm KoreenOlbrish: how about we all retire designing learning that we wouldn’t want to go through ourselves?🙂 #lrnchat
9:45:40 pm dbolen: @moehlert AMEN on user experience versus the box or phone, engage and inspire #lrnchat
9:45:54 pm oxala75: @KoreenOlbrish now you done done it. #lrnchat
9:46:01 pm MariaOD: @BradStokes Point taken. Just saying tech isn’t there yet! #lrnchat
9:46:15 pm spotlearning: @tmiket I didn’t know they had Twitter in Siberia…bummer on the retake. #lrnchat
9:46:16 pm Quinnovator: @Spydeesense actually, multiple choice *can* be real learning (cf mini-scenarios),but unless challenging, separate feedback…) #lrnchat
9:46:19 pm KoreenOlbrish: @oxala75 c’mon, i double dog dare you😉 #lrnchat
9:46:23 pm JaneBozarth: @moehlert on the way just sent via twitpic to #lrnchat
9:46:26 pm tmiket: @KoreenOlbrish Seems only fair! #lrnchat
9:46:45 pm JaneBozarth: http://twitpic.com/9ui3x – #lrnchat how to pass most tests
9:46:45 pm oxala75: @rotkapchen ha! yes, familiar w/that scenario… #lrnchat
9:47:13 pm wlonline: RT @joycefromoz Q. Is anyone teaching life coaching skills; have u linked participants with twitter? Interested? #lrnchat PDF mindlessness #lrnchat
9:51:38 pm KoreenOlbrish: @Quinnovator we should at least be trying to fight the good fight tho, no?😉 if its PPT, you better think its worthwhile PPT, etc #lrnchat
9:52:03 pm KoreenOlbrish: @Spydeesense oh, don’t lie…you’re just off to work more🙂 #lrnchat
9:52:08 pm jwillensky: @moehlert Cool! Thanks. #lrnchat
9:52:09 pm dbolen: @oxala75 and respect the learner, don’t waste their time #lrnchat
9:52:10 pm MarkMorganMA: Training Master Plan #lrnchat
9:52:26 pm jwillensky: RT @moehlert: MIT Sloan Management Special Issue on Design: http://tinyurl.com/lzgq3d #lrnchat
9:52:28 pm cammybean: Hi guys. Late to the party, but at least I tried tonight! #lrnchat
9:52:44 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @BradStokes: Argh, lag hitting tweetgrid… argh #lrnchat
9:52:45 pm gminks: PPT is just a tool. Its just misused #LRNCHAT
9:52:55 pm oxala75: @BradStokes @marciamarcia ‘Thiagi’ must be a drink cue. #lrnchat
9:53:29 pm Quinnovator: @JoanVinallCox YES! and make it applied: prepare response to X, or prepare plan for Y (BTW, here’s the necessary info) #lrnchat
9:53:31 pm wlonline: RT @moehlert: #lrnchat MIT Sloan Management Special Issue on Design: http://bit.ly/17Rf1E
9:53:44 pm carolwhit: tweetchat is lagging as well – argh! #lrnchat
9:53:57 pm dwilkinsnh: @marciamarcia How about – “we need to know they hit every page in the course so we know they learned it”? I like that one a lot. #lrnchat
9:54:04 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @dbolen: @oxala75 and respect the learner, don’t waste their time #lrnchat
9:54:14 pm sreeser: RT @moehlert: #lrnchat MIT Sloan Management Special Issue on Design: http://tinyurl.com/lzgq3d
9:54:17 pm Quinnovator: @gminks started this earlier: PPT doesn’t kill people, people kill people… #LRNCHAT
9:54:43 pm MariaOD: How about CBT, Courseware, LMS, LCMS, VLE? AICC, SCORM 2.1 #lrnchat
9:54:44 pm Mary_a_Myers: joined late too…but happy i actually made it! this is my first time live #lrnchat
9:54:51 pm spotlearning: @oxala75 I like Thiagi’s suggestion of teaching to the test. Start with the test; then train it. No mistake about WIIFM. #lrnchat
9:54:58 pm gminks: @Quinnovator heh #LRNCHAT
9:55:11 pm KoreenOlbrish: @Mary_a_Myers glad you could join us😉 #lrnchat
9:55:15 pm marciamarcia: Before everyone starts dropping off, thank you all for brightening my evening & reminding me workplace learning pros can laugh. #lrnchat
9:55:22 pm MariaOD: @tmiket ha ha ha…i love it…they cnt move ahead…just evil!!! #lrnchat
9:55:33 pm wlonline: @carolwhit Happens with other apps as well #lrnchat
9:55:44 pm spotlearning: @Quinnovator I have my new devs learn PPT first …and learn it well. Good PPT is a good foundation. #lrnchat
9:55:56 pm MarkMorganMA: Lots of fun. Next week same bat-time same bat-channel #lrnchat
9:56:18 pm JaneBozarth: bye Craig! #lrnchat
9:56:26 pm MariaOD: @BradStokes How do you track mlearning? Any synch learning? #lrnchat
9:56:30 pm lrnchat: @Mary_a_Myers Thanks for joining us. Same for any other newcomers. We’re usually not this funny, but always fun. #lrnchat
9:56:49 pm joshgiesbrecht: @Quinnovator still, gotta blame PPT for having all those “kill people w/ boredom” buttons and templates #lrnchat
9:56:56 pm lrnchat: Times’s almost up! Anything #lrnchat participants can help you with? Time to reintroduce yourself, too. Links welcome.
9:57:05 pm moehlert: @marciamarcia #lrnchat Marcia, you rock! AWESOME idea! #lrnchat’ers – ya’ll are pretty damn funny…I don’t care what they say.
9:57:05 pm JaneBozarth: iTweet.net holding up ok tonight #lrnchat
9:57:14 pm dwilkinsnh: RT @JaneBozarth: time flies when you’re having #lrnchat <– What she said.
9:57:18 pm roninchef: @marciamarcia Edupunk. Some things are best left unsaid. Heard someone say it in all seriousness, it made me wince. #lrnchat
9:57:20 pm JoanVinallCox: @Quinnovator Totally applied – students can't pass without knowing how to use the info from the live PPTs & static wiki – #lrnchat
9:57:27 pm gminks: @lrnchat tonight was great! Thanks! #LRNCHAT
9:57:38 pm Quinnovator: yes, thanks to all for showing that we don't take ourselves too seriously! And thank for a great #lrnchat, laughs, drinks, and more
9:57:39 pm tmiket: @joshgiesbrecht ..but you don't have to use them. PPT templates etc #lrnchat
9:57:47 pm JaneBozarth: @mariaOD define "track learning"? #lrnchat
9:57:49 pm AlienWeedMan: Thanks for the great #lrnchat! Now I'm going to smoke a fat J.
9:57:50 pm BradStokes: Brad Stokes Wollongong Australia http://www.bradstokes.com.au http://www.mtraining.com.au Elearning Consultant & Educational Design #lrnchat
9:58:10 pm gminks: I'm Gina and I'd love it if someone would write the blog post I have due for class🙂 Stupid produsage book!!! #LRNCHAT
9:58:10 pm BradStokes: Great chat today, heaps of fun #lrnchat
9:58:29 pm dbolen: I'll drink to that, great chat #lrnchat
9:58:30 pm lrnchat: Everyone PLEASE visit the website to hear about neat opp to help one another & the field. http://sn.im/lrnfaq #lrnchat
9:58:35 pm tmiket: Fastest and favorite hour and a half of my week..Thanks yet again! Fun! #lrnchat
9:58:39 pm joshgiesbrecht: @tmiket for sure. it's just sad that good PPT use requires teaching people why NOT to do what it expects you to #lrnchat
9:59:09 pm LearnYourLesson: good nite all! looking at "reverse mentoring" model if anyone has experience w/that and would like to share later. – Robin Rose #lrnchat
9:59:13 pm Quinnovator: RT @KoreenOlbrish: even the spammers are kinda funny tonight😉 #lrnchat
9:59:21 pm Mary_a_Myers: @KoreenOlbrish thanks!…if we r talking about what we don't want 2 hear any more then my big fave is "loading the lips" for sales #lrnchat
9:59:33 pm JoanVinallCox: New at #lrnchat – great fun – http://joanvinallcox.wordpress.com/ http://tinyurl.com/3cmfat
9:59:39 pm ScottWyler: thx all for making my 1st time so enjoyable… #lrnchat http://twubs.com/lrnchat
9:59:42 pm lrnchat: Also, there's poll on the right side of website asking for best alt-times for #lrnchat for those out of US. Please share w/ nonUS friends.
9:59:54 pm roninchef: I'm Mason and I'm off to do chores before bed. Thanks and night all. #lrnchat
10:00:09 pm JaneBozarth: @learnyourlesson Also read about "mentoring up" by younger/newer staff #lrnchat
10:00:14 pm dwilkinsnh: I could use some help in my on-boarding. My brain is full. LOL. G'night all. Fun as always. #lrnchat
10:00:20 pm gminks: ok I have to write my blog post bye #lrnchat! #LRNCHAT
10:00:20 pm moehlert: @JoanVinallCox Welcome to #lrnchat!
10:00:25 pm BradStokes: Good call! RT @tmiket: Fastest and favorite hour and a half of my week..Thanks yet again! Fun! #lrnchat
10:00:40 pm moehlert: RT @lrnchat: Everyone PLEASE visit the website to hear about neat opp to help one another & the field. http://sn.im/lrnfaq #lrnchat
10:00:56 pm carolwhit: Carol Whittington, San Jose, CA, http://pressplaysolutions.com — Google apps training and instructional design consultant #lrnchat
10:00:57 pm joshgiesbrecht: I'm Josh, math/IT student teacher. glad I caught the end of this. first time tweetchatting; works pretty well (minus spammers) #lrnchat
10:01:04 pm JaneBozarth: Night all. I am going to go iron my school clothes for tomorrow and see if husband has any choc milk left #lrnchat
10:01:06 pm Mary_a_Myers: @lrnchat Next week I am setting my alarm so i show up on time…so thankful for the transcript.
10:01:14 pm odguru: Thanks all. Benefits for brain and heart tonight. #lrnchat Christy, mentoring, knowledge/learning transfer networks, performance mez
10:01:23 pm lrnchat: And finally, please remember to tell us a little more about yourself at https://lrnchat.wordpress.com/whos-who/
10:01:27 pm spotlearning: @LearnYourLesson Would like to chat on reverse mentoring. #lrnchat
10:01:28 pm lrnchat: Thank you for joining us on #lrnchat. Pls remember to submit questions for upcoming chats at https://lrnchat.wordpress.com. See u next week!
10:01:45 pm carolwhit: thanks for another great #lrnchat!
10:02:17 pm JaneBozarth: I'm Jane and have published books about PowerPoint and ADDIE so give me a BREAK, how 'bout it?😉 #lrnchat
10:03:49 pm LearnYourLesson: @spotlearning Great, thanks! I followed you. My contact info is on my page, too. #lrnchat
10:04:12 pm marciamarcia: RT @moehlert Marcia, you rock! AWESOME idea! #lrnchat'ers – ya'll are pretty damn funny…I don't care what they say. (Back at ya. – M)
10:04:24 pm dwilkinsnh: Another great #lrnchat tonight. If you are a learning or training professional, and you don't participate, you are missing out big time.
10:05:27 pm BradStokes: RT @dwilkinsnh: Another great #lrnchat tonight. If you are a learning or training professional, and you don't participate, you are miss …
10:14:41 pm Ginaschreck: Darn–I decided to eat dinner and missed #lrnchat Must put this on calendar if you are lrning or trning prof- COOL pple GR8 discsn #lrnchat

2 comments

  1. I saw an interesting exchange at the very end of lrnchat tonight… probably the transcript had been saved. A Twitter user who apparently follows at least one of the chatters started complaining about people using Twitter for chatting.

    I think the idea that you have to use technology only for what it’s “intended for” is ludicrous… just tonight I was listening to NPR (as I was speeding home, trying to make it to lrnchat) and heard about a group that is using AutoTune to make it sound like news anchors are singing, which may be the best use of AutoTune that I’ve ever heard of. (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=autotune%20the%20news&search=Search&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&spell=1 if you’re interested)

    Furthermore, I have people I’m following on Twitter who tweet just as often as normal lrnchat users do — and they’re not even chatting! I personally think this is annoying, but I’m not going to go tell them they’re not using Twitter correctly.

    Having said all of those things, it does seem like there would be benefits to using a “meant for chat” client… no character restrictions, faster updating, no having to remember the tag (for people who don’t use Tweetchat). Has this possibility been discussed?

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