Transcript of #lrnchat for 06/25/09

8:32:14 pm lrnchat: #lrnchat rules: 1) Introduce yourself. (We’ll do this again at the end). Location? Focus? Fave topics?
8:33:21 pm moehlert: RT @moehlert: Mark Oehlert here from outside Washington DC…work for DOD and interested in Virtual Worlds, SoMe for learning… ” #lrnchat
8:33:59 pm dwilkinsnh: #lrnchat should be interesting tonight given the Micheal Jackson news and the situation in Iran which, together, are breaking the intertubes
8:34:22 pm lrnchat: 4) 5min before end, #lrnchat moderators will ask if you need anything from the other participants. Time to reintroduce yourself too.
8:34:46 pm gminks: I’m Gina, I live outside Boston, I design tech ed for #emc, I’m in grad school, fave topic = can you design for informal corporate #lrnchat
8:35:18 pm hjarche: Harold in Atlantic Canada – interest: integration of learning & work in networks #lrnchat
8:35:27 pm damonregan: Damon Regan here from Orlando, FL. Grad student in Instructional Technology. Topics? All things considered… #lrnchat
8:35:33 pm JaneBozarth: trainer, bad bureaucrat (is that bad?), designer. Spend lots of time ‘splainin the difference btwn training and presentation #lrnchat
8:36:18 pm PearlFlipper: #lrnchat RT PearlFlipperLaura Handrick, ISD student from SDSU in the 80s; now stuck here in Omaha. From ELearning to Business Strategy. LOL
8:36:43 pm lrnchat: 5) When writing in, complete thoughts help followers outside chat learn from you. #lrnchat
8:37:04 pm lrnchat: 6) Periodically RT questions so others outside the chat know what you’re talking about and can add in. #lrnchat
8:37:10 pm jennystaley: #lrnchat Jenny from Hagerstown MD online higher ed all ed tech topics #lrnchat
8:37:30 pm lrnchat: Q0 (our weekly welcome, now also @lrn2day) What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week? #lrnchat
8:38:05 pm dbolen: Q0 bad week for those of us 50+ #lrnchat
8:38:39 pm PearlFlipper: Sorry had to RT myself cause I forgot to add #lrnchat Interests? anything new, recently my new TheFlip camera
8:39:25 pm Priaak: Sivapriya, San Mateo, CA #lrnchat
8:39:32 pm bschlenker: Hi! My name is Brent Schlenker and it’s been 1 week since my last #lrnchat
8:39:48 pm hjarche: @PearlFlipper if you log in to tweetchat.com then lrnchat room, it adds the hashtag for you #lrnchat
8:40:34 pm kzenovka: @PearlFlipper – Flip camera makes videotaping almost too easy #lrnchat
8:41:21 pm haiku12: Hi all, Robert Milton, SAP.. looking at ways to facilitate learning – more pull, less push. On demand, rather than top-down. #lrnchat
8:41:25 pm dwilkinsnh: @tgrevatt Thanks Treena. It’s been a whirlwind week to say the least., but really, really good. #lrnchat
8:41:57 pm rosler: #lrnchat Shawn Rosler, here. Also a first timer (like @cindyhugg). Designer, developer, Captivate evangelist of CBT for an EHR/EMR…
8:42:13 pm jwillensky: Q0 I’ve learned that there are all kinds of elegant free web 2.0 tools for keeping the books and invoicing. #lrnchat
8:42:31 pm tgrevatt: #lrnchat I learned to be patient, but also that asking isn’t too scary – negotiated a refund from my telco! And had email read on CBC!
8:42:45 pm MariaOD: I learned about performance support and how we can use it to support instruction or even stand alone learning #lrnchat
8:42:55 pm magdaZINE: I used to work at XPLANE. Good to see they are still making movies. #lrnchat
8:43:14 pm delanotho: #lrnchat Q0 I learned TweetDeck is not updating my tweets! Kevin Thorn here from AutoZone. LearnNuggets blog and freelance cartoonist
8:43:19 pm ethankuniyoshi: Ethan Kuniyoshi. Grad stu San Francisco State University in Instructional Technology & e-learning coordinator Stanford Hospital #lrnchat
8:43:57 pm KoreenOlbrish: i learned that sometimes ppl work to the expectations you set for them (even when they are only 2 and 6 years old… #lrnchat
8:44:47 pm kasey428: RT @hjarche: if you log in to tweetchat.com then lrnchat room, it adds the hashtag for you. I am there but my tweets are not. #lrnchat
8:44:57 pm gminks: there are lots of students! next week I’m going to try & get my new class to come along #lrnchat
8:45:06 pm KoreenOlbrish: oh, and in case you missed it…Koreen Olbrish, outside Philly, Tandem Learning, virtual worlds, sims, games and soc media #lrnchat
8:45:14 pm klowey22: @moehlert sorry i missed ur webinar today, howd it go? looking forward to recording… #lrnchat
8:45:21 pm allisunelearns: Hi #lrnchat – I’m Allisun O’Connell, passionate Moodle & eLearning designer & grad student, currently based in Humboldt County, CA
8:45:46 pm lrnchat: lrnchatQ1 (pt 2): What do you think were the reasons for the implementation problems?#lrnchat
8:46:17 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Q1 Anybody ever hear of something called an LMS?
8:46:37 pm moehlert: @damonregan Hey Damon! Good to see you here. #lrnchat
8:46:53 pm gminks: I think I missed Q1 p1 .. #lrnchat
8:46:56 pm jwillensky: Q1 Gigantic online Help/EPSS thing for system that was never implemented. #lrnchat
8:47:25 pm alexismac: Q1 – was successful at first, but shortlived – interactive videodisc! Yeah I’m old🙂 #lrnchat
8:47:47 pm damonregan: @moehlert Hey there Mark. Good to see you too! #lrnchat
8:48:10 pm rpannoni: @moehlert LMS? Not since I worked for Saba #lrnchat
8:48:17 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat – currently switching from Blackboard to Desire2Learn Q1
8:48:39 pm hjarche: @kasey428 I’m seeing you now on tweetchat – just slow twitter tonight #lrnchat
8:49:19 pm Spydeesense: I apologize to any followers in advance going to Tweet on #lrnchat so it may seem odd but really it’s just learning!
8:49:23 pm Erick1970: Erick – Arkansas – OE Analyst, Instructional Designer, Competency Models – favorites: org design, informal learning, org alignment #lrnchat
8:49:31 pm magdaZINE: Curious if any of you are using podcasting in your work. Specifically audio, not video. #lrnchat
8:49:46 pm MariaOD: @Erick1970 Yes, we’ve been using PS-job aids, forms, -never really knew there was a name for it. Nice to know. I want to learn more #lrnchat
8:49:57 pm dbolen: @cindyhugg hi Cindy #lrnchat
8:50:08 pm row4it: Sure just shut our LMS procurement process down due to economy. Stinks, but those manual process continue to produce metrics. #lrnchat
8:50:12 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Q1 Part 2: failed because software was too complicated, and no org design/change mgt done with it…too hard to maintain
8:50:34 pm haiku12: I can’t see Q1 p1 on tweetchat either. #lrnchat
8:50:43 pm mattybee: @magdaZINE I have been using podcasting (audio) to give weekly updates and learning activity descriptions #lrnchat
8:50:44 pm dwilkinsnh: LCMS in a past life. Everyone thought we could just reuse objects, but of course, context matters and no one could use LO “as-is” #lrnchat
8:50:52 pm MariaOD: @moehlert No….lol #lrnchat
8:51:32 pm JaneBozarth: @koreenolbrish #lrnchat Others buy b/c they heard they were supposed to have one…
8:51:47 pm smartinx: Hmmm…just learned that #lrnchat/ is not the same as #lrnchar on tweetchat. Make sure there is no / at the end of the URL… #lrnchat
8:51:58 pm mattybee: Sorry Matt Blackstock, Newcastle NSW e-learning explorer🙂 #lrnchat
8:52:15 pm hjarche: @MariaOD links on human performance technology (incl performance support) http://delicious.com/jarche/hpt #lrnchat
8:52:23 pm damonregan: Q1 P2: Couldn’t see benefits over email. Perhaps the small size limited the network effects necessary to realize benefits? #lrnchat
8:52:41 pm Erick1970: Sorry — didn’t see the part 1 of the question. #lrnchat
8:53:07 pm haiku12: I did find it at lrnchat’s twitter page, though. What do you think were the reasons for the implementation problems? #lrnchat
8:53:26 pm alexismac: We had one successful interactive video course – housekeeping training for CP hotels – our first multimedia learning contract #lrnchat Q1
8:53:28 pm damonregan: RT @lrnchat Q1 P1 What technology for learning/training has your organization tried to implement unsuccessfully? #lrnchat
8:53:32 pm lrnchat: RTing Q1 (Pt 1): What technology for learning/training has your organization tried to implement unsuccessfully? #lrnchat
8:53:51 pm haiku12: So many failed learning initiatives, so little time. lol. #lrnchat
8:53:55 pm MariaOD: @hjarche Thank you for the PS link. Been reading Bob Mosher. #lrnchat
8:53:57 pm delanotho: RT @RobRobertson: Tweetchat and Tweetdeck are not updating all tweets in the session… #lrnchat
8:54:14 pm kasey428: @smartinx Good evening, Stephen #lrnchat
8:54:22 pm allez08: Lea Ann, gradschool classmate of @gminks, work at Fla. State Cont. Ed Center, instructional designer in training. #lrnchat
8:54:31 pm alexismac: oops meant interactive videodisc – after that we geared up for all the impending biz, but no one wanted to buy the players #lrnchat Q1
8:54:45 pm rosler: @magdaZINE #lrnchat I tried to sell them on it, but EHRs are so visual, iy’s kimd of a tough sell (although there would be value to it)
8:54:55 pm JaneBozarth: @roninchef #lrnchat say more?
8:55:01 pm MariaOD: @Erick1970 What learning system did you implement that went badly and why #lrnchat
8:55:35 pm tmiket: LMS. SCORM won’t work. Unintelligible & innaccurate automated msgs. But not due to sw…it’s the people driving the ship #lrnchat
8:55:55 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat Q1 – think of them as works in progress
8:56:22 pm cindyhugg: unsuccessful tech: many yrs ago org had expensive LMS connected to ERP. upgraded ERP but not LMS. so it was abandoned. big waste #lrnchat
8:57:15 pm nickfloro: Q1 – if the content not high quality then then everything spirals downwards from there. Its better to take time to develop. #lrnchat
8:57:17 pm dbolen: enterprise LMS across matrixed organization, some groups chose not to play #lrnchat
8:57:31 pm dwilkinsnh: @moehlert Yeah exactly. It’s like using a nail gun as a hammer and then wondering why it doesn’t save any time… #lrnchat
8:57:49 pm gminks: agree w this. What about good implementations that arent maintained? RT @kzenovka: #lrnchat Q1 – think of them as works in progress #lrnchat
8:57:53 pm JaneBozarth: RT @roninchef There is no simple way to communicate to all of our employees. No way to get the information into their paths. #lrnchat
8:58:07 pm MariaOD: Q1 #lrnchat LMS problem with scalability and did not talk to our email system Groupwise among other things code in a language called Webplus
8:58:15 pm rosler: #lrnchat We’ve been successful with our usage of Captivate to traun the EMR/EHR (apologiesfor the repetition from ElearningGuild AG09)
8:58:36 pm magdaZINE: Seems like tweetChat is missing tweets. #lrnchat
8:58:39 pm kasey428: have wrkd w/proprietary LMS and Saba. currently not wrkng w/LMS used as a true LMS #lrnchat
8:58:41 pm allisunelearns: Q2 – was absorbed by hmgrwn sys, I am not sure why – def. not more sustainable- wasn’t at last meetings but think its uni politics #lrnchat
8:58:44 pm haiku12: Similar failure, different company: built a performance rating system – IT squashed it due to bandwidth concerns. #lrnchat
8:58:55 pm JaneBozarth: @moehlert #lrnchat Repercussions–yes. “We tried XXXXX and it didn’t work.” So never again, and never really getting what didn’t work.
8:59:12 pm KoreenOlbrish: i’ve found lots of implementations die because of lack of training on how to use the tech. IRONY #lrnchat
8:59:16 pm nickfloro: Using discussion boards and chat forums without an audience or content do not help in learning successfully-need to cont to evolve. #lrnchat
9:00:16 pm dbolen: Q1 online perf mgt system w/o leadership support #lrnchat
9:00:19 pm cindyhugg: @roninchef No simple way to communicate to all of our employees. No way to get info into their paths. #lrnchat <= prob true of all orgs?
9:00:23 pm delanotho: RT @magdaZINE: Seems like tweetChat is missing tweets. #lrnchat
9:00:38 pm kasey428: @JaneBozarth Sounds too familiar #lrnchat
9:00:43 pm moehlert: Try this again. Any repercussions from failed tech implementation? #lrnchat
9:01:12 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @delanotho: RT @magdaZINE: Seems like tweetChat is missing tweets. #lrnchat yes i think it is…
9:01:34 pm nickfloro: q1 – love when group tried using technology and vows to never use again b/c it did not work the first time. #lrnchat
9:02:05 pm JaneBozarth: Hello @cindyhugg heard you wanted to meet me? #lrnchat
9:02:25 pm PearlFlipper: #lrnchat Q1 Imacted time, $ +worst, months when organization could have been more productive, but wasn’t. Bull market covered up a lot/sins.
9:02:26 pm row4it: returned to Tweekdeck to see if I can get the entire conversation/tweets of #lrnchat
9:02:45 pm tonykarrer: Wow, very busy #lrnchat today!
9:02:54 pm kasey428: @moehlert Where I work now, yes. Poor implementation and lack of expertise doomed earlier efforts. #lrnchat
9:02:57 pm roninchef: Q2 pt2.2 And now the trainer is coming to me to create a CBT for those who may have missed the live trainings. #lrnchat
9:03:11 pm delanotho: @moehlert Failed tech implementation. A poorly designed hierarchy for an LMS will cause daily pain for entire enterprise. #lrnchat
9:03:29 pm lrnchat: @delanotho @koreenolbrish #lrnchat Do you sense that they mean “training” in broad capital-T sense?
9:03:36 pm Sue_Taylor: I love when group doesn’t pay attention to training, fails, and vows it was the technology not them #lrnchat
9:04:08 pm hybridkris: Kris Rockwell, CEO Hybrid Learning Systems, PIttsburgh, PA. #lrnchat
9:04:08 pm delanotho: Failed implementation quote of the day: “If you’re going to do it, do it right the first time or expect to do it over.” #lrnchat
9:05:48 pm rosler: @Sue_Taylor #lrnchat All too familiar in my field…
9:06:08 pm Spydeesense: @delanotho @moehlert Big lesson from a failed LMS migration was that ultimately efforts to customize an LMS make it more fragile #lrnchat
9:06:18 pm bschlenker: RT @Sue_Taylor: I love when group doesn’t pay attention to training, fails, and vows it was the technology not them #lrnchat
9:07:28 pm cindyhugg: RT @delanotho: @moehlert Failed tech implementation. poorly designed hierarchy for an LMS will cause daily pain for entire org #lrnchat
9:07:46 pm MariaOD: @bschlenker sometimes this is true..the system was flawed…don’t blame training…I know #lrnchat
9:08:34 pm PearlFlipper: #lrnchat Q? I eschew the word training. Potty? Obiedience? We’re enabling change, learning & organizational (financial/market) performance.
9:08:42 pm Quinnovator: finally back after too many weeks away (late: all day meeting, Bay Area traffic) #lrnchat
9:08:47 pm moehlert: So #lrnchat 1 of my tasks is to create strategy to allow logical/successful integration of new technologies for learning to avoid Q1-tips?
9:09:39 pm Erick1970: Q1: Any lessons from integrating and LMS with other HR systems? #lrnchat
9:09:54 pm tmiket: @MariaOD Lots of things tagged as a “training issue” not solved by best training in the world. #lrnchat
9:10:12 pm smartinx: Urg! Tweetchat really dropping the ball! #lrnchat
9:10:26 pm denniscallahan: Dennis Callahan here…catching up on the conversations #lrnchat/
9:10:36 pm magdaZINE: Technology needs to be a carefully considered as part of ID process. I’ve seen so many orgs locked into non-scalable solutions. #lrnchat
9:10:39 pm gminks: RT @tmiket: @MariaOD Lots of things tagged as a “training issue” not solved by best training in the world. #lrnchat
9:11:03 pm CotterHUE: RT @bschlenker: RT @Sue_Taylor: Shift the blame to someone something else. Hasn’t this largely become a societal norm? #lrnchat
9:11:05 pm dbolen: @moehlert a successful pilot group, make that an influential plot group that embraces the tech solution #lrnchat
9:11:09 pm nickfloro: Large LMS, predefined templates make it impossible to locate content. We also need to shift thinking to search based learning w pos #lrnchat
9:11:10 pm KoreenOlbrish: @moehlert think about the tech, think about the use, think about the orientation/training, think about the ongoing support🙂 #lrnchat
9:11:28 pm JaneBozarth: RT @tmiket @MariaOD Lots of things tagged as a “training issue” not solved by best training in the world. #lrnchat AMEN
9:12:07 pm mattybee: I think Tweetchat is having a hard time🙂 #lrnchat
9:12:13 pm PearlFlipper: #lrnchat It doesn’t hurt to get the IT team on your side. Most like to be fed and talked to. Sometimes they ‘know’ people.
9:12:26 pm Sue_Taylor: @CotterHUE I wish it wasn’t, but I know it is. #lrnchat
9:12:30 pm rpannoni: Each group of stakeholders values something different – that’s the challenge. Lot’s of homework to do. #lrnchat
9:12:33 pm MariaOD: @tmiket Someone said create training and we just do it. Not enough needs analysis done up front…sometime fear to lose our job! #lrnchat
9:12:42 pm JaneBozarth: @eric1970 we haven’t made the integration yet. #lrnchat
9:13:10 pm kasey428: RT @smartinx: Urg! Tweetchat really dropping the ball! #lrnchat
9:13:24 pm gminks: sometimes IT know what your risks are, but don’t know how to tell you so you understand #lrnchat
9:13:41 pm gminks: RT @rpannoni: Each group of stakeholders values something different – thats the challenge. Lots of homework to do. #lrnchat
9:13:57 pm jwillensky: Q2 ROI, asynchronicity, transfer, engagement, E-Z maintenance #lrnchat
9:14:04 pm row4it: RT @rpannoni: Each gp of stakeholders values something different – that’s the challenge. Lot’s of homework #lrnchat agree! Big challenge
9:14:21 pm Priaak: RT KoreenOlbrish @moehlert think about the tech, think about the use, think about the orientation/training, think about the ongoing #lrnchat
9:14:25 pm mattybee: Q@ pt1 Don’t use ‘wiki’ or ‘blog’ they are guaranteed to frighten people off and get some derision sent your way… #lrnchat
9:14:57 pm JaneBozarth: I once had some success by pointing out that staff were becoming unemployable. #lrnchat
9:15:05 pm Quinnovator: @mattybee so use journal, collaborative space instead? #lrnchat
9:15:06 pm MarkMorganMA: Q2 p2 #lrnchat does it help get them what they want? And is it relatively easy #lrnchat
9:15:11 pm tmiket: @mattybee Do you have any good “code names” for wikis & blogs? #lrnchat
9:15:14 pm mattybee: Tweetchat is only posting my every second post?😦 #lrnchat
9:15:38 pm MariaOD: @tmiket hard to do when its the leadership thats requesting, new system that cost a pretty penny..but only targets 5-6 people #lrnchat
9:15:46 pm CotterHUE: @bschlenker: #lrnchat inexpensive just fine. Thats NASA spending millions to make a pen that wrote in space. USSR used pencils. #lrnchat
9:16:11 pm kasey428: @mattybee Agreed, many of our users are 60+, wiki, blog are turnoffs. How to bring them along? Others terms? #lrnchat
9:16:53 pm JaneBozarth: Had interesting twist on that Q when preparing to do a “Retaining Talent” workshop and realized that’s not what all managers want #lrnchat
9:17:47 pm mattybee: take note of the look you get next time you say ‘blog’ to a non-elearner prof. lol! #lrnchat
9:18:01 pm JaneBozarth: @kasey428 @mattybee Start with sameness-es, not differences: “It’s a lot like email…” #lrnchat
9:18:02 pm tmiket: @MariaOD I’m fortunate to have great relationship w/ my leaders and if I show them WHY they are pretty open to alternatives #lrnchat
9:18:13 pm magdaZINE: So true RT @MariaOD: @tmiket Someone said create training and we just do it. Not enough needs analysis done up front.. #lrnchat
9:18:17 pm haiku12: @CotterHUE Hey, I like that pen! #lrnchat
9:18:18 pm KoreenOlbrish: Is it only ROI data that mgmt responds to? Can qualitative data “sell” training? #lrnchat
9:18:30 pm denniscallahan: @rpannoni Having strong sponsorship from a business leader has been my most valuable support. Help 2 get others in place #lrnchat
9:19:01 pm Mary_a_Myers: @haiku12 this made me laugh. so true, so true #lrnchat
9:19:04 pm nickfloro: @haiku12 Still looking, we are currently building our own tools but I think LMS will implement to stay in the loop. #lrnchat
9:19:11 pm KoreenOlbrish: @CotterHUE that is an AWESOME pen tho😉 #lrnchat
9:19:47 pm moehlert: @tonykarrer hey – nice tweet but don’t forget #lrnchat for it to drop into flow…🙂
9:19:56 pm JaneBozarth: @smartinx I know, I know.. #lrnchat
9:20:21 pm gminks: @KoreenOlbrish how do you collect the qualitative data? (struggling with that) #lrnchat
9:20:37 pm damonregan: @moehlert or perhaps, using @tonykarrer good suggetion, wrapping up in a story #lrnchat
9:21:32 pm kzenovka: #lrnchat – Web 2.0 terms make it fun, have them see tech as toy – bombard them w/ jargon & let them play – they’ll thank u a year later
9:22:10 pm KoreenOlbrish: @Quinnovator agreed, but how do we quantify the qualitative for those who don’t value it or “get it” ? #lrnchat
9:23:42 pm delanotho: @KoreenOlbrish @Quinnovator Its all in the numbers. If you show sr. ldrship how tng has impacted the ‘numbers’ they want more #lrnchat
9:23:46 pm haiku12: @Mary_a_Myers This is a fun and scattered way to chat with a fascinating group of people. TweetChat isn’t keeping up tonight, tho. #lrnchat
9:24:16 pm mattybee: Stories work really well RT @damonregan: @moehlert or perhaps, using @tonykarrer good suggetion, wrapping up in a story #lrnchat
9:24:16 pm lrnchat: Ok everyone–seems folks are getting frustrated with slowness? Want to cut it short 2night? #lrnchat
9:24:36 pm kasey428: @haiku12 too many tweets? #lrnchat
9:24:50 pm MariaOD: @tmiket We have great leaders also who are transparent &listen…but at the project level…sometimes we come in too late #lrnchat
9:24:50 pm jwillensky: @gminks Create analogies using data from other orgs? #lrnchat
9:24:55 pm jsuzcampos: having trouble getting real time feed of #lrnchat … so disappointed! my first night joining, maybe next week?
9:24:55 pm gminks: @lrnchat try one more question! #lrnchat
9:25:24 pm lrnchat: Too much going on in the Celebrity-verse tonight… slowing the whole world down. #lrnchat
9:25:56 pm Erick1970: Tweetchat: “Transferring data from search.twitter.com…” #lrnchat
9:26:01 pm magdaZINE: @lrnchat Yes, I think all the celebrity deaths and political scandals are really slowing down twitter and tweetchat #lrnchat
9:26:10 pm delanotho: @lrnchat I must be an omen. Its my first visit – all clients are slow and got a power surge here that knocked me off for 15 min! #lrnchat
9:26:18 pm row4it: I’m going to duck out…too hard to stay with a thread due to inconsistent traffic. Next week folks! #lrnchat
9:26:37 pm Quinnovator: @moehlert that’s right, (topic ended #sri-vw), you’ve got to know what to measure, and when #lrnchat
9:26:37 pm dbolen: @moehlert #lrnchat But what numbers? Not everything you can count, counts. return on expectation?
9:27:04 pm delanotho: Yep, that must be the reason RT @lrnchat: Too much going on in the Celebrity-verse tonight… slowing the whole world down. #lrnchat
9:28:06 pm gminks: @dbolen plus – what if you sell the training? does that impact the way its measured? #lrnchat
9:28:19 pm nickfloro: @lrnchat #lrnchat – i vote to keep going…
9:28:22 pm delanotho: @dbolen @moehlert Disagree. ‘Everything’ can be counted, measured, or evaluated #lrnchat
9:28:31 pm rpannoni: @smartinx If no compelling advantage, maybe they should stick with email. Sometimes tech doesn’t fly because it’s a bad idea. #lrnchat
9:29:29 pm clairebrooks: #lrnchat- just joining in- and a beginner so not quite sure how to get best out of #lrnchat
9:29:53 pm alexismac: I’ve gone glue-stick – now on search.twitter.com and working fine #lrnchat
9:30:13 pm denniscallahan: delanotho: @dbolen @moehlert everything can but should it be? #lrnchat
9:30:13 pm smartinx: @rpannoni Agreed. Tech for tech’s sake is the kiss of death for the project and for future potential of the tool when rlly needed #lrnchat
9:30:29 pm Erick1970: @delanotho Yes, work with your customer to identify the qualitative & quantitative measures ahead – they’ll help you get the data. #lrnchat
9:30:32 pm rpannoni: User’s adopt when there’s something in it for them. Find the hook for each group and market it. #lrnchat
9:30:32 pm moehlert: @denniscallahan #lrnchat Return on Expectation, Visibility…liking these
9:30:37 pm jwillensky: @gminks Nothing like implying that competitors are more cutting-edge, though🙂 #lrnchat
9:30:41 pm MarkMorganMA: #lrnchat everything can be counted, but not all data is interesting to the stakeholders #lrnchat
9:31:22 pm MarkMorganMA: #lrnchat measurements must have a clear line between training and results that are important #lrnchat
9:31:25 pm JaneBozarth: in Raleigh/Durham NC. Author, rabid learner, positive deviant. Need constant feeding from kindred spirits!! LOVE #lrnchat!
9:31:28 pm PearlFlipper: #lrnchat jumping off now and inspired to help others think like the C-Suite. My blog has 4 followers. Maybe I’ll post something & get 1 more
9:31:42 pm bschlenker: User’s adopt when there’s something in it for them. Find the hook for each group and market it. #lrnchat (via @rpannoni) – I like this!
9:32:04 pm JaneBozarth: RT @MarkMorganMA #lrnchat everything can be counted, but not all data is interesting to the stakeholders
9:32:06 pm Quinnovator: #lrnchat Clark Quinn, Quinnovation, need new ideas how to get ‘reinventing learning’ message to the right level of decision maker!
9:32:12 pm Mary_a_Myers: @haiku12 More next week I suppose. i was late joining tonight, but now i see how slow it is. #lrnchat
9:32:20 pm delanotho: Still useful to sell ur case RT @MarkMorganMA: everything can be counted, but not all data is interesting to the stakeholder #lrnchat
9:32:35 pm haiku12: @denniscallahan @moehlert also like the idea of ROE #lrnchat
9:32:37 pm smartinx: Or useful! RT @MarkMorganMA #lrnchat everything can be counted, but not all data is interesting to the stakeholders #lrnchat
9:32:42 pm tmiket: RT @bschlenker: User’s adopt when there’s something in it for them. Find the hook for each group and market it. #lrnchat (via @rpannoni …
9:33:01 pm alexismac: I love a client who is willing to take tech/design risks to improve learning, even if they’re pioneering a new concept! #lrnchat
9:33:12 pm Quinnovator: @clairebrooks #lrnchat come back next week, and then watch, contribute, learn! (And check out lrnchat.wordpress.com)
9:33:19 pm KoreenOlbrish: Koreen Olbrish, Tandem Learning, Philly-ish, learning tech, immersive learlning, and more. #lrnchat fanatic😉
9:33:24 pm kasey428: If there is a client need for the technology rather than just a client want, then do it but with deliberation #lrnchat
9:33:29 pm MariaOD: Hello again #lrnchat, Maria from Columbus, Ohio (elearning, rapid/design/develop, ILT,PM) planning our migration to Office 2007. Any advice?
9:33:46 pm moehlert: @clairebrooks #lrnchat Bad night to start Claire-the ‘Net is crashing but check https://lrnchat.wordpress.com/ for transcript and more! HI!
9:33:57 pm haiku12: What’s fun is finding synergies, great learning outcomes you don’t expect. SROE. Surprise Return on Expectations. #lrnchat
9:34:01 pm denniscallahan: @Erick1970: – good points . U don’t want customer seeing u as solution looking for a problem. This won’t last long #lrnchat
9:34:31 pm JaneBozarth: @delanotho @Quinnovator I hope you’re right about next generation driving it! #lrnchat
9:34:38 pm delanotho: @smartinx @MarkMorganMA More data is better than a lack of. Collect it ALL then decipher what’s useful and to whom #lrnchat
9:34:46 pm jsuzcampos: meaningful training data. do thorough performance gap analysis to determine your outcome measurements. start with the end in mind. #lrnchat
9:35:02 pm delanotho: RT @tmiket: RT @bschlenker: Users adopt when theres something in it for them. Find the hook for each group and market it. #lrnchat
9:35:09 pm MariaOD: #lrnchat i vote to discuss performance support next week @lrnchat
9:35:31 pm mattybee: Never underestimate the power of WIIFM🙂 #lrnchat
9:36:25 pm lrnchat: Duly noted RT@MariaOD #lrnchat i vote to discuss performance support next week
9:36:30 pm MarkMorganMA: @quinnovator #lrnchat Reinventing – tell stakeholders that it’s something they already did but in a different way & better results #lrnchat
9:37:19 pm smartinx: @delanotho Sorry, but collecting it all then trying to decipher means lots of noise, little signal. Data overload is very real. #lrnchat
9:38:12 pm gminks: RT @smartinx: @delanotho Sorry, but collecting it all then trying to decipher means lots of noise, little signal. Data overload is #lrnchat
9:38:45 pm delanotho: @smartinx At times, yes. IF u have advantage of Data Analysts, they get jazzed about the overload. I let them sort it out for me🙂 #lrnchat
9:39:37 pm JaneBozarth: I asked y’all for some metrics last week but no one had any to spare… #lrnchat
9:40:21 pm delanotho: @gminks @smartinx Goes back to end in mind. That will drive how much data needed. “Is the juice worth the squeeze?” #lrnchat
9:41:04 pm nickfloro: Nick Floro in WashX PA. Design + Develop elearning apps & content. Passion + Evangelist for teaching technology and how to use #lrnchat
9:41:45 pm devlearn: Looks like #lrnchat peeps are dropping off – Great chat while it lasted even if slow going. See y’all next week!
9:41:50 pm denniscallahan: @dbolen re: ROV I heard the concept from someone at a Learning Gyild conference #lrnchat
9:42:14 pm slls01: RT @Sue_Taylor: I love when group doesn’t pay attention to training, fails, and vows it was the technology not them #lrnchat
9:43:13 pm delanotho: Good chats. Bummer it was slow. Look forward to the transcript and next week’s chat. Thanks! #lrnchat
9:43:48 pm cindyhugg: RT @slls01: RT @Sue_Taylor: I love when group doesn’t pay attention to training, fails, and vows it was the technology not them #lrnchat
9:47:05 pm jwillensky: @lrnchat Thanks for moderating through the static! #lrnchat
9:48:02 pm JaneBozarth: @haiku12 yes I forgot about Andrew! #lrnchat
9:49:33 pm rpannoni: FWIW, I tried 3 clients tonight for #lrnchat (Seesmic, itweet.net and tweetchat). Seesmic was the most reliable.
9:50:09 pm JaneBozarth: I did well with iTweet.net for #lrnchat tonight

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