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Transcript 24-February, 2012

February 24, 2012
9:30:03 am lrnchat: Welcome to #lrnchat! How are you this afternoon?
9:31:13 am C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Welcome to #lrnchat! How are you this afternoon? <I will RT key questions via @c4lpt and join as @janehart
9:31:16 am lrnchat: If you are new to #lrnchat, we have rules available here: http://t.co/755c8oIh
9:31:52 am ZaraLynnKing: Hi everyone, Zara Mississauga Ontario Canada. Going to love this topic. #lrnchat
9:31:55 am dan_steer: @lrnchat I’m sure I shouldn’t be paying attention to #lrnchat = I’m busy and trying to stop working for the day… #lrnchat
9:32:03 am lrnchat: Q0. We begin w/ the weekly #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself. Where are you from? What have you learned this week?
9:32:35 am dawnjmahoney: Pardon the tweet storm/Join us! RT @lrnchat: Welcome to #lrnchat! How are you this afternoon?
9:32:51 am dan_steer: I’m a learning consultant and trainer, interested in all things social, authentic and fun #lrnchat …based in Belgium
9:33:32 am allthingsnoisy: Q0. Hi, I’m Jenda, curriculum developer & tech trainer in supply chain mgmt in Pittsburgh, PA. #lrnchat
9:33:44 am dawnjmahoney: RT @lrnchat: Q0. We begin w/ the weekly #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself. Where are you from? What have you learned this week?
9:34:18 am dan_steer: Q0) Dealing with personal stress, core beliefs + values is the biggest fundamental thing to do before any change is integrated#lrnchat
9:36:08 am allthingsnoisy: q0. This week, I learned you can’t train end users in new tech as “just another IT project”. It has to be humanistic, narrative. #lrnchat
9:36:16 am belowit: Hello all! David from Rocky Mount, North Carolina. Instructional Designer. #lrnchat
9:36:20 am tonyplant: been helping charity think about using social learning for staff; been learning about their needs #lrnchat
9:36:26 am naturalgrump: RT @lrnchat: If you are new to #lrnchat, we have rules available here: http://t.co/755c8oIh
9:37:12 am belowit: Q0) I learned about 7 myths of mobile learning via @floatlearning webinar. #lrnchat
9:37:42 am virtualpioneer: Hello, I’m David. Work with @vcopious Virtual Environments. We build virtual environments for elearning. #lrnchat
9:38:11 am ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat this week I learned about pain and success also I learned it help to have important ppl support your project.
9:38:46 am dan_steer: @belowit @floatlearning Do you have a reference David? #lrnchat
9:38:46 am trchandler: Todd Chandler, learning and performance @Helzberg in KC, MO #lrnchat
9:38:52 am janehart: Q0) Hi everyone, Jane Hart from nr Bath in the UK – learned lots this week – I never stop learning – it just happens! #lrnchat
9:39:45 am elearningguy: Just jumping in here…Mark Sheppard, currently in snowy Borden, ON. #lrnchat
9:39:47 am c_clavin: RT @lrnchat: Q0. We begin w/ the weekly #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself. Where are you from? What have you learned this week?
9:40:04 am lrnchat: Q1. Why is training so loved when it’s so rarely the best solution? #lrnchat
9:40:21 am bobzimel: #lrnchat bob zimel here from nj …nlewrning this week -> I should definitely lrnchat And inshould get blooootooth keyboard for my iPad
9:40:23 am trchandler: Living = learning RT @janehart: I never stop learning – it just happens! #lrnchat
9:40:47 am trchandler: Great opening question RT @lrnchat: Q1. Why is training so loved when its so rarely the best solution? #lrnchat
9:40:48 am C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q1. Why is training so loved when it’s so rarely the best solution? #lrnchat
9:40:53 am elearningguy: Q0) I learned now that I don’t teach on a f/t basis any more, I enjoy it more when the occasion rises. Lots of fun on Wednesday #lrnchat
9:40:53 am dawnjmahoney: RT @lrnchat: Q1. Why is training so loved when its so rarely the best solution? #lrnchat
9:41:09 am onsSara: RT @lrnchat: Q1. Why is training so loved when its so rarely the best solution? #lrnchat
9:41:29 am dawnjmahoney: @bobzimel Hi Bob! I have the keyboard/better without it for some reason (to me) And yes! u shd lrnchat! #lrnchat
9:41:29 am virtualpioneer: RT @lrnchat: Q1. Why is training so loved when its so rarely the best solution? #lrnchat
9:41:34 am trchandler: Q1) Because it’s tangible. You can point to it and say, “Look what we did.” #lrnchat
9:41:34 am c_clavin: Q0: L&D professional in medical device industry. Social learning and gamification enthusiast. #lrnchat
9:41:50 am ZaraLynnKing: I think there is a miss perception that ppl will have the right behavior zapped into their brain #lrnchat
9:41:57 am lress: Great question: Q1 Why is training so loved when it’s so rarely the best solution? #lrnchat #lrnchat
9:42:00 am c_clavin: RT @lrnchat: Q1. Why is training so loved when it’s so rarely the best solution? #lrnchat
9:42:01 am dawnjmahoney: Q1) <cynical> Cuz then its someone else’s problem #lrnchat
9:42:10 am trchandler: Q1) It’s CYA insurance #lrnchat
9:42:22 am tonyplant: @janehart yes, I do mean using social media #lrnchat
9:42:25 am virtualpioneer: A1. Execs can relate to it and report on it #lrnchat
9:42:32 am ZaraLynnKing: Lazy senior managers also don;’t realize they too must practice what they preach #lrnchat
9:42:43 am virtualpioneer: Ha, so true! RT @trchandler: Q1) Its CYA insurance #lrnchat
9:42:53 am LnDDave: Hey #lrnchat! just popping in for the morning session before I hit a meeting. How is everyone?
9:42:54 am dawnjmahoney: Q1)or more correctly, the outcomes-good or bad-r #lrnchat
9:42:58 am LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q1. Why is training so loved when it’s so rarely the best solution? #lrnchat
9:43:00 am bobzimel: Q1 People actually like focusing on themselves when they have a chance #lrnchat
9:43:01 am janehart: Q1) It’s just the way it’s always been done and few question its usefulness or effectiveness #lrnchat
9:43:13 am trchandler: Q1) Managers love training as the solution, because it means leadership is not the issue #lrnchat
9:43:16 am allthingsnoisy: q1. Training is backing evidence that you did something. It can be touted, insured, blamed. #lrnchat
9:43:23 am belowit: @dan_steer http://t.co/CZb9SjAk #lrnchat
9:43:24 am dan_steer: Q1) I see a lot of people that really appreciate the face-to-face connectivity that comes with training #lrnchat
9:43:24 am ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat also science has not found a way to track the human experience
9:43:29 am amirelion: #lrnchat q1 we are all so used to it from infancy. Our education system from kindergarten to university is too much training
9:43:34 am LnDDave: Q1) I have a follow-up question… Loved by WHO? #lrnchat
9:43:42 am dawnjmahoney: @LnDDave Hey Dave! I’ve marked 3/1/12 on my calendar! #lrnchat
9:43:58 am onsSara: Q1) Why used even tho not best solution? …Paradigm that doing something is better than nothing. #lrnchat
9:44:02 am StephenWalker: @C4LPT @lrnchat there’s often a free lunch and it’s a chance to get out of the office #lrnchat
9:44:04 am LnDDave: RT @dawnjmahoney: @LnDDave Hey Dave! I’ve marked 3/1/12 on my calendar! #lrnchat << Great. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.
9:44:10 am dan_steer: Q1) One of my clients uses training as “an excuse” to put people from across the world together #lrnchat
9:44:13 am ZaraLynnKing: RT @StephenWalker: @C4LPT @lrnchat there’s often a free lunch and it’s a chance to get out of the office #lrnchat
9:44:20 am dawnjmahoney: Q1)Some cultures foster training=solution instead of good coaching & perf mgt #lrnchat
9:44:35 am dawnjmahoney: RT @LnDDave: Q1) I have a follow-up question… Loved by WHO? #lrnchat
9:44:36 am karentriggs: RT @tonyplant: been helping charity think about using social learning for staff; been learning about their needs #lrnchat
9:44:42 am dan_steer: Q1) Its a retention tool for new joiners in a graduate-scheme. They compare to other companies and say “I got XX days of training” #lrnchat
9:44:49 am trchandler: Q1) it’s tough to argue against throwing training at a problem. It’s a feel good solution. #lrnchat
9:44:54 am LnDDave: Q1) I don’t think training is ‘loved’ so much as it is expected based on our expereinces from school. #lrnchat
9:44:56 am dawnjmahoney: @LnDDave Do you want them before then? #lrnchat
9:45:01 am lress: RT @ZaraLynnKing: RT @StephenWalker: @C4LPT @lrnchat theres often a free lunch and its a chance to get out of the office#lrnchat
9:45:16 am ZaraLynnKing: It is all the baby boomers fault…lol…they have not yet caught up with the shift in thinking and needs of the new generation#lrnchat
9:45:48 am dawnjmahoney: Q1)Training=place to practice & make mistakes w/out harm or breaking something #lrnchat
9:45:55 am bobzimel: Q1) @LnDDave, I think training IS loved when it produces great outcomes and great WIIFMs #lrnchat
9:46:04 am amirelion: #lrnchat Q1 Because by automatically saying “let’s do a course” we can to avoid questions that expose harder performance & structure issues
9:46:06 am trchandler: Q1) there’s also usually a placebo effect. Just holding a training session spikes a change in behavior. #lrnchat
9:46:12 am LnDDave: RT @bobzimel: Q1) @LnDDave, I think training IS loved when it produces great outcomes and great WIIFMs #lrnchat
9:46:13 am dawnjmahoney: @ZaraLynnKing Hi Zara! Love the new pic! #lrnchat
9:46:24 am janehart: @amirelion How often is that? #lrnchat
9:46:27 am awooler: Q0) AndyWooler from Brighton UK – 4 weeks into a new job I am learning all the time! #lrnchat
9:46:33 am dan_steer: In Belgium, unions + govemment created national obligations to train people 4 days in 2 years in order to invest in learning#lrnchat
9:46:50 am trchandler: @LnDDave good call. Training is loved by decision makers, not the participants. #lrnchat
9:46:55 am dawnjmahoney: RT @bobzimel: Q1) @LnDDave, I think training IS loved when it produces great outcomes and great WIIFMs #lrnchat
9:46:58 am ZaraLynnKing: old school thinkers that still can barely use a PC never mind a tablet don’t see need to foster emotional intelligence & coaching #lrnchat
9:47:03 am elearningguy: Q1) I think there’s an element of social conditioning. We see the “classroom” as the place to do something new. (1/2)#lrnchat
9:47:12 am scottmerrett: A1) because training is mistaken as learning and learning IS the solution #lrnchat
9:47:17 am dan_steer: Q1) …the only other learning initiative accepted by BelGov within the obligation framework (aside training) is eLearning #lrnchat
9:47:38 am elearningguy: Q1) We don’t often acknowledge the tacit learning & growth that happens day to day. (2/2) #lrnchat
9:47:45 am dan_steer: @janehart @amirelion TRY to avoid #lrnchat
9:47:50 am trchandler: RT @amirelion: #lrnchat Q1 Because by automatically saying “let’s do a course” we can to avoid questions that expose harder performance & structure issues
9:47:50 am ZaraLynnKing: We limit learning of all types and all ages by institutionalizing it. #lrnchat
9:47:50 am dawnjmahoney: Q1)Learning happens at diff rates of speed/safe env for learners #lrnchat
9:48:00 am tonyplant: Q1) certainly loved by those who like to measure tangible things when training = course/event #lrnchat
9:48:23 am dan_steer: @trchandler Not JUST holding a training… Key ingredients still required: eg Double Loop Learning + Peer/Group Dynamics#lrnchat
9:48:28 am trchandler: Well said RT @scottmerrett: A1) because training is mistaken as learning and learning IS the solution #lrnchat
9:48:36 am ZaraLynnKing: RT @trchandler: Well said RT @scottmerrett: A1) because training is mistaken as learning and learning IS the solution#lrnchat
9:48:40 am virtualpioneer: virtual provides for this. RT @dawnjmahoney: Q1)Learning happens at diff rates of speed/safe env for learners #lrnchat
9:48:47 am weblearning: #lrnchat It’s the tea and cakes and goodies that people love. Not the training.
9:48:57 am dan_steer: RT @scottmerrett: A1) because training is mistaken as learning and learning IS the solution #lrnchat
9:49:16 am elearningguy: @stephenwalker Yes….also seen as the goal, rather than a milestone. #lrnchat
9:49:16 am kevinmulryne: @C4LPT Because it’s cheap and obvious. #lrnchat
9:49:23 am dawnjmahoney: @virtualpioneer right. So does f2f #lrnchat
9:49:29 am ZaraLynnKing: why can’t we think of our jobs as communicators not trainers? #lrnchat
9:49:29 am LnDDave: Q1) I think orgs need to be educated that training is but one of a number of performance support options. #lrnchat
9:49:34 am allthingsnoisy: @ZaraLynnKing As my dad used to say, “don’t confuse your education with your schooling”. #lrnchat
9:49:36 am bobzimel: Q1) Training is loved because we can tweet about it and people like me care (LOL sortof) #lrnchat
9:49:37 am onsSara: RT@trchandler: Well said RT @scottmerrett: A1) because training is mistaken as learning and learning IS the solution #lrnchat
9:49:45 am LnDDave: RT @kevinmulryne: @C4LPT Because it’s cheap and obvious. #lrnchat << Obvious yes… but not always cheap.
9:49:50 am amirelion: #lrnchat Q1 trying to be positive: I love training when it asks real questions and offers real dialog and tools
9:50:06 am C4LPT: @kevinmulryne Is it really cheap? I think it’s quite costly #lrnchat
9:50:13 am LnDDave: RT @C4LPT: @kevinmulryne Is it really cheap? I think it’s quite costly #lrnchat
9:50:13 am dawnjmahoney: We can-convince othrs! RT @ZaraLynnKing: why cant we think of our jobs as communicators not trainers? #lrnchat
9:50:32 am dawnjmahoney: agree! RT @LnDDave: RT @kevinmulryne: @C4LPT Because its cheap and obvious. #lrnchat << Obvious yes… but not always cheap. #lrnchat
9:51:01 am ZaraLynnKing: I love supportive communication >>>>@amirelion I love training when it asks real questions and offers real dialog and tools#lrnchat
9:51:07 am virtualpioneer: @dawnjmahoney with travel restrictions these days F2F needs alternatives #lrnchat
9:51:11 am janehart: Q1) So if we know the reasons why training is not a good thing, why do we still do it? #lrnchat
9:51:23 am bobzimel: Even more costly when it is need but not done well>>RT@LnDDave:RT @C4LPT: @kevinmulryne Is it really cheap?I think its quite costly #lrnchat
9:51:25 am trchandler: @dan_steer no doubt those elements improve results, but even just brief focus can cause a short-lived change in behavior/results #lrnchat
9:51:47 am c_clavin: Q1: training is “rarely the best solution”-really? Interesting way to phrase this question. Is this what we want to perpetuate?#lrnchat
9:51:59 am dan_steer: RT @amirelion: #lrnchat Q1 trying to be positive: I love training when it asks real questions and offers real dialog and tools
9:52:05 am tonyplant: Q1) because there are times when training is the right thing to do and saves lives (e.g. armed forces) #lrnchat
9:52:12 am EmmanuelleEN: Q1) Training's side effect is to develop one's social capital. #lrnchat
9:52:24 am chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Q0. We begin w/ the weekly #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself. Where are you from? What have you learned this week?
9:52:24 am ZaraLynnKing: the other day i was informed we needed a program on ergonomics and it was going to have to be long…WHY long?#lrnchat.
9:52:44 am AjayPangarkar: Q1) #lrnchat …I disagree, training is not loved by those external to it
9:52:52 am LnDDave: Q1) I really think training is loved because of a combination of inertia and fear. We need to be considering all options. #lrnchat
9:52:56 am dawnjmahoney: @virtualpioneer no argument/f2f not always needed/sometimes only option/virtual gr8 for a lot! #lrnchat
9:53:04 am dan_steer: @trchandler Agree / So I suppose the real Q = why use training and not something else (which is where the chat is headed..)#lrnchat
9:53:06 am chet_stevenson: Q0) Chester Stevenson, Columbia Missouri, Trainer/Instructional Designer #lrnchat
9:53:07 am kevinmulryne: @C4LPT Cheap when the trainers are talented internal folk doing it as part of their specialist role #lrnchat
9:53:15 am chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Q1. Why is training so loved when it’s so rarely the best solution? #lrnchat
9:53:18 am elearningguy: @allthingsnoisy @ZaraLynnKing But we should be narrowing that gap, no? #lrnchat
9:53:23 am moehlert: @krcraft @MeghanMBiro #socbizchat #TChat #lrnchat Hard to pin down in few characters..may have to blog abt xroads of talent, lrng & socbiz
9:53:24 am dawnjmahoney: Me too! RT@amirelion I love training when it asks real questions and offers real dialog and tools #lrnchat
9:53:25 am awooler: Q1) I hope any surgeon who works on me has indeed been trained rather than learning socially! It’s hourses for courses (intended!) #lrnchat
9:53:37 am AjayPangarkar: Rarely is traning the first thought for management #lrnchat
9:53:38 am LnDDave: Q1) FYI… I’m not anti-training; I’m anti-training-as-the-default-solution. #lrnchat
9:53:47 am dawnjmahoney: @ZaraLynnKing Did they explain “long”? #lrnchat
9:54:13 am trchandler: @dan_steer exactly. Those other elements are much less tangible, but usually more effective. #lrnchat
9:54:17 am elearningguy: @lnddave @C4LPT @kevinmulryne Dave, didn’t you and I see some metrics about costs a while back? #lrnchat
9:54:19 am dan_steer: RT @LnDDave: Q1) FYI… I’m not anti-training; I’m anti-training-as-the-default-solution. #lrnchat
9:54:23 am LnDDave: RT @kevinmulryne: Cheap when the trainers are talented internal folk doing it as part of their role #lrnchat < Time is still money.
9:54:27 am dawnjmahoney: Some orgs/not all RT @AjayPangarkar: Rarely is traning the first thought for management #lrnchat
9:54:35 am trchandler: Yeah, what he said RT @LnDDave: Q1) FYI… Im not anti-training; Im anti-training-as-the-default-solution. #lrnchat
9:54:47 am ZaraLynnKing: I hope so. I work at trucking company has a ton of old school learners and workers. Many for inception 50 yrs ago @elearningguy #lrnchat
9:54:56 am tonyplant: @ZaraLynnKing yes indeed, I spend a lot of time communicating/facilitating supporting others to learn #lrnchat
9:55:00 am dawnjmahoney: @awooler My earlier pt/need “safe” place for practice #lrnchat
9:55:02 am lrnchat: Q2. Is training ever relevant and necessary? If so, when? #lrnchat
9:55:13 am AjayPangarkar: I am not anti-training either…but I am a realist and guide training pros with tough love #lrnchat
9:55:15 am elearningguy: Q1) Maybe we need to start saying “training is what you do to puppies using newspaper”? #lrnchat
9:55:22 am LnDDave: Q1) Want to see how much training is loved? Check the transcript for last night’s discussion about Compliance Training. #lrnchat
9:55:24 am ZaraLynnKing: @dawnjmahoney they mean it need to be detailed and give all the BS no one cares about… #lrnchat
9:55:29 am LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q2. Is training ever relevant and necessary? If so, when? #lrnchat
9:55:33 am lress: RT @lrnchat: Q2. Is training ever relevant and necessary? If so, when? #lrnchat
9:55:34 am C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q2. Is training ever relevant and necessary? If so, when? #lrnchat
9:55:34 am dawnjmahoney: RT @lrnchat: Q2. Is training ever relevant and necessary? If so, when? #lrnchat
9:55:34 am chet_stevenson: Q1) I thnk there’s a stigma out there that if people R not prforming to standard, it’s because they don’t know what they are doing. #lrnchat
9:55:42 am allthingsnoisy: My team works hard to make it a primary thought. RT @AjayPangarkar: Rarely is traning the first thought for management#lrnchat
9:55:57 am onsSara: RT @lrnchat: Q2. Is training ever relevant and necessary? If so, when? #lrnchat
9:56:10 am trchandler: Moving on RT @lrnchat: Q2. Is training ever relevant and necessary? If so, when? #lrnchat
9:56:13 am kelly_smith01: RT @dan_steer: RT @LnDDave: Q1) FYI… I’m not anti-training; I’m anti-training-as-the-default-solution. #lrnchat
9:56:31 am dawnjmahoney: @ZaraLynnKing Ah… so they dictate the amt of time it takes? Curiouser&curiouser #lrnchat
9:56:36 am chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Q2. Is training ever relevant and necessary? If so, when? #lrnchat
9:56:39 am bobzimel: Q2) Always relevant when done effectively! Know ur audience, learning styles, yourself,then train away! #lrnchat
9:56:49 am kelly_smith01: RT @chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Q2. Is training ever relevant and necessary? If so, when? #lrnchat
9:57:04 am dan_steer: Q2) Putting people in training rooms can be relevant for many reasosn, eg: giving them a chance to bitch+moan about a recent change #lrnchat
9:57:04 am c_clavin: Q1: we as L&D leaders need 2 move people away from notion that trg is the “soft” side of biz & be seen as strategic biz partners#lrnchat
9:57:26 am chet_stevenson: Q2) Training is appropriate when there is a lack of Knowledge and/or Skill… Sometimes Awareness. #lrnchat
9:57:28 am MarkMiyashita: RT @rkiker: Global Digital Citizen—The Role of the Teacher http://t.co/CVAifm8r #edchat #palisd #lrnchat
9:57:29 am elearningguy: Q2) Perhaps for ongoing proficiency and maintenance of skills in higher risk environments, I would think Yes, e.g. Pilots, Doctors #lrnchat
9:57:30 am amirelion: #lrnchat Q2 I think training can be an effective PART of good learning solution blend. Just need to use it utilizing it’s relative strengths
9:57:33 am ZaraLynnKing: I’m a huge fan of Orientation or New Hire Training. send right message to the right ppl to begin a mind set for the work enviroment #lrnchat
9:57:47 am bobzimel: Q2) Don’t train people that a job aid; do train people that need to learn to change behavior #lrnchat
9:57:54 am onsSara: Q2) Relevent & necessary? Yes, esp when it’s continuing ed combined with practical #lrnchat
9:57:58 am lress: Q2) Training is necessary when people have to learn how to do something – not when they don’t know why they should do something#lrnchat
9:57:59 am StephenWalker: @awooler surgeons’ training is done in a meaningful context, which is what makes it useful – a lot of work based training isn’t #lrnchat
9:58:00 am c_clavin: RT @lrnchat: Q2. Is training ever relevant and necessary? If so, when? #lrnchat
9:58:22 am dawnjmahoney: q2)Learning complex processes/systems-practice & layered learning r needed #lrnchat
9:58:23 am LnDDave: Q2) There are times when training is necessary: when providing support within the work isn’t an option. #lrnchat
9:58:28 am dan_steer: So, a learning answer … Q2) Training environment is better than some solutions for feedback giving and “peer-sharing”#lrnchat
9:58:35 am elearningguy: Q2) I’m lucky in working for the RCAF that I don’t have to sell the value of trg, either new, or ongoing. #lrnchat
9:58:37 am scottmerrett: A2) Safety training? #lrnchat
9:58:38 am bobzimel: Q2) This Q to us WLP’s is like asking an athlete whether drinking water is a good idea #lrnchat
9:58:50 am harmonygritz: Mentor, monitor, mediator: RT @CourtneyHanes: Global Digital Citizen—The Role of the Teacher http://t.co/RrLP9hE9#lrnchat RT @rkiker
9:59:08 am dawnjmahoney: Q2)Working thru “real life” situations w/out needed the “real life” to learn from #lrnchat
9:59:11 am JaneBozarth: @c_clavin delivering hours of irrelevant compliance training does not support the idea that we are strategic biz partners#lrnchat
9:59:17 am ZaraLynnKing: To me “formal training” is about outlining expectations & accountability. It is needed. From there it about fostering good behavior #lrnchat
9:59:29 am onsSara: RT@elearningguy:Q2) Perhaps for ongoing proficiency and maintenance of skills in …, e.g. Pilots, Doctors<< yes & onc nurses!#lrnchat
9:59:34 am dan_steer: @ZaraLynnKing I like onboarding solutions where there isn’t really training, but learning opportunities in the actual environment#lrnchat
9:59:48 am tonyplant: Q2) when procedures/process is important training is needed. I want my pilot trained and know when to use learning from experience #lrnchat
9:59:55 am hjarche: training is relavant & necessary when there’s clear lack of skills/knowledge & practice/feedback can be provided to develop skills#lrnchat
9:59:57 am dan_steer: @amirelion So what are the relative strengths? #lrnchat
9:59:58 am kelly_smith01: Q2) Performance short of a exemplary level may require training or may need performance support or job redesign -#lrnchat
10:00:04 am ZaraLynnKing: Safety Training does not need to be formal training. RT @scottmerrett: A2) Safety training? #lrnchat
10:00:09 am elearningguy: @c_clavin As I said to a colleague yesterday, it has to be seen as a cost of doing business instead of a grudgingly necessary evil #lrnchat
10:00:15 am learnchamp: Q2 Training is relevant in a lot of cases – but it is also not the right solution in even more cases #lrnchat
10:00:18 am amirelion: @ZaraLynnKing #lrnchat problem is many times orientation training can be organized weeks after start of work
10:00:33 am EdReformPR: “At Risk” students reportedly “AMPED” for increased testing, saying, “The status quo wasn’t mind numbing enough.”#edreform #edchat #lrnchat
10:00:38 am ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat poop i have a meeting… creating Onboarding training
10:00:56 am allthingsnoisy: q2. Training is necessary when a thorough analysis shows gaps. It’s relevant when that gap is filled or exceeded. #lrnchat
10:01:08 am J_Haag: @lrnchat Training is relevant if you satisfy the objective & learn something. It is only sometimes necessary, more often mandatory. #lrnchat
10:01:15 am dawnjmahoney: We do quarterly! RT@ZaraLynnKing #lrnchat problem is many times orientation training can be organized weeks after start of work #lrnchat
10:01:26 am kelly_smith01: New tasks, new jobs or new employees may require training or may need performance support. #lrnchat
10:01:29 am dawnjmahoney: @ZaraLynnKing how ironic! #lrnchat
10:01:36 am hjarche: How to decide if training should even be considered http://t.co/lCnYSOKq #lrnchat
10:01:42 am janehart: Q1) Training works best when there is a high level of task standardization and little task variety #lrnchat
10:01:53 am dawnjmahoney: RT@c_clavin delivering hours of irrelevant compliance training does not support the idea that we are strategic biz partners #lrnchat
10:01:55 am tonyplant: Q2) more effective training on financial compliance certainly a big focus at the moment #lrnchat
10:02:04 am LnDDave: @bobzimel I’m not sure I agree about athletes/water. Sometimes Trainers need to recognize that training isn’t the answer.#lrnchat
10:02:18 am dawnjmahoney: @c_clavin Room for both–why/why not? #lrnchat
10:02:33 am dan_steer: @dan_steer @ZaraLynnKing Other ideas on the goals of onboarding + some approachs http://t.co/5HRUKS7y from recent roun-table #lrnchat
10:02:38 am FaizanAM: Q2. Training begins with a need, fous on fulfilling that need and the training will always be relevant and necessary #lrnchat
10:02:42 am LnDDave: RT @hjarche: training is necessary when there’s clear lack of skills/knowledge & practice/feedback can be provided to develop#lrnchat
10:02:43 am thelaurenklein: RT @C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q2. Is training ever relevant and necessary? If so, when? #lrnchat
10:02:56 am learnchamp: Q2 Train people (create awareness) to be open-minded towards informal learning supported by great new applications#lrnchat
10:02:59 am LnDDave: RT @learnchamp: Q2 Training is relevant in a lot of cases – but it is also not the right solution in even more cases #lrnchat
10:03:08 am c_clavin: @JaneBozarth agreed, but when we act as strat biz partners we can find ways to meet biz needs, drive biz results & engage learners #lrnchat
10:03:11 am LnDDave: RT @janehart: Q1) Training works best when there is a high level of task standardization and little task variety #lrnchat
10:03:12 am learnchamp: RT @kelly_smith01: New tasks, new jobs or new employees may require training or may need performance support.#lrnchat
10:03:24 am ZaraLynnKing: @scottmerrett no way. i refer to formal as class room. why not get physical in the field. no better way then to show and do#lrnchat
10:03:30 am kelly_smith01: People of planet earth – training is not the only way to improve performance or introduce new tasks. #lrnchat
10:03:49 am LnDDave: RT @tonyplant: Q2) more effective training on financial compliance certainly a big focus at the moment #lrnchat < More focus on check-boxes?
10:03:53 am dan_steer: @LnDDave @bobzimel Reminds me of a scene from “The Guardian” http://t.co/fr6da5PZ #lrnchat
10:04:07 am amirelion: @dan_steer #lrnchat training strength 1 – an expert is there and if s/he is a good trainer he can help novices get an initial framework
10:04:23 am bobzimel: Training is not ALWAYS relevant, but that was not the Q>>RT @LnDDave: … Trainers need to recognize that training isnt the answer. #lrnchat
10:04:49 am janehart: @FaizanAM But the need may well be better fulfilled by a solution other than training #lrnchat
10:04:53 am learnchamp: RT @lrnchat: Q0. We begin w/ the weekly #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself. Where are you from? What have you learned this week?
10:05:05 am scottmerrett: @ZaraLynnKing ah, that’s formal to me #disambiguation #lrnchat
10:05:06 am weblearning: Q2) Not all training will be relevant at the time it is delivered. Particular circumstances may make it important. #lrnchat
10:05:10 am LnDDave: Q1) I think our field addresses relevance well; whether or not it’s always necessary is a growth opportunity. #lrnchat
10:05:12 am tonyplant: @JaneBozarth @c_clavin agree, need to ensure any training highly relevant and attendees get what’s in it for them/the organisation #lrnchat
10:05:22 am C_More_Zebras: Training: when ‘on the job’ is to late to practice – regardless if the task is standardized #lrnchat
10:05:38 am elearningguy: Q2) But how often is “training” used as a diversion from management/leadership failures? #lrnchat
10:05:48 am kelly_smith01: Can you imagine if marketing or other business areas had such restricted solutions as the training department seems to have. #lrnchat
10:05:49 am cyberspacemike: RT @hjarche: How to decide if training should even be considered http://t.co/lCnYSOKq #lrnchat
10:06:14 am bobzimel: Q2) @LnDDave Q was EVERY and it is often relevant …Training is not ALWAYS relevant, but that was not the Q …athlelete/water… #lrnchat
10:06:37 am dan_steer: RT @amirelion: @dan_steer #lrnchat training strength 1 – an expert is there and if s/he is a good trainer he can help novices get an initial framework
10:06:40 am FaizanAM: RT @janehart: @FaizanAM But the need may well be better fulfilled by a solution other than training #lrnchat
10:06:41 am amirelion: #lrnchat training strength 2 – having ppl in the room can be good for building informal relationship. Have them learn together
10:06:47 am dawnjmahoney: AgreeRT @LnDDave: Q1) I think our field addresses relevance well; whether or not its always necessary is a growth opportunity. #lrnchat
10:06:52 am learnchamp: Q2 Same “old” question… Like the question a few years ago if eLearning should replace face-to-face training – wrong question #lrnchat
10:06:55 am kelly_smith01: RT @elearningguy: Q2) But how often is “training” used as a diversion from management/leadership failures? #lrnchat
10:07:42 am LnDDave: Hmm… Tweetdeck seems slow. I’m getting notifications on my phone a good minute or two before I see it in Tweetdeck.#lrnchat
10:07:59 am LnDDave: RT @hjarche: How to decide if training should even be considered http://t.co/lCnYSOKq #lrnchat
10:08:02 am dawnjmahoney: Q2)We need to get better at analyzing b4 proposing solns #lrnchat
10:08:06 am tonyplant: @LnDDave if org culture is tick-box good, yes; if culture is lets work smarter, be efficient, have return customers who like us, no #lrnchat
10:08:31 am KathyJeep: RT @lrnchat: Q2. Is training ever relevant and necessary? If so, when? #lrnchat
10:08:36 am dawnjmahoney: RT @LnDDave: RT @hjarche: How to decide if training should even be considered http://t.co/TFMkb6ed #lrnchat
10:09:10 am KathyJeep: Listening in on #lrnchat a little this morning.
10:09:13 am hjarche: too often, training industry & departments are just pill-pushers http://t.co/5a9gAHEe #lrnchat when all you have is a hammer …
10:09:18 am LnDDave: @bobzimel True. I just see plenty of trainers that are more interested in what they want to do than what the org needs. #lrnchat
10:10:02 am kelly_smith01: If we keep thinking of training solutions then we might as well sell B&W TV sets and filmstrip projectors. #lrnchat
10:10:18 am lrnchat: Q3. Think of something you train on now. What would a meaningful alternative look like? #lrnchat
10:10:29 am KathyJeep: RT @C_More_Zebras: Training: when ‘on the job’ is to late to practice – regardless if the task is standardized #lrnchat
10:10:51 am janehart: Q2) @dawnjmahoney Performance consulting – not just training needs analysis #lrnchat
10:11:13 am elearningguy: @dawnjmahoney Q2) I think we also need to be better at selling the right solution, not just what Mgmt thinks they want.#lrnchat #pipedream
10:11:13 am JaneBozarth: @elainewalton @elearningguy @cfdurauk … and in the traditional classroom we tell them when they can go to the bathroom. #lrnchat
10:11:14 am kelly_smith01: RT @hjarche: too often, training industry & deps… are just pill-pushers http://t.co/kHmZnsaI #lrnchat
10:11:54 am amirelion: #lrnchat feeling a bit like we all chose an easy target to bash at…training
10:12:04 am trchandler: Next up RT @lrnchat: Q3. Think of something you train on now. What would a meaningful alternative look like? #lrnchat
10:12:18 am ccbranham: RT @hjarche: too often, training industry & departments are just pill-pushers http://t.co/5a9gAHEe #lrnchat when all you have is a hammer …
10:12:19 am BenjaminMcCall: “All that’s valuable in human society depends upon the opportunity for development accorded the individual”~Albert Einstein #lrnchat
10:12:20 am dawnjmahoney: RT @lrnchat: Q3. Think of something you train on now. What would a meaningful alternative look like? #lrnchat
10:12:31 am onsSara: RT @lrnchat Q3. Think of something you train on now. What would a meaningful alternative look like? #lrnchat #lrnchat
10:12:39 am C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q3. Think of something you train on now. What would a meaningful alternative look like? #lrnchat
10:12:39 am LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q3. Think of something you train on now. What would a meaningful alternative look like? #lrnchat
10:12:40 am learnchamp: Q3 Instead of mostly formal training for our professional services team we let them “shadow” more experienced consultants#lrnchat
10:12:47 am techherding: “Training” isn’t what people want. “Skills” or “sales” or “less breakage” or “Bob not offending women” are what people want.#lrnchat
10:13:01 am tonyplant: @hjarche yes, we can get dogmatic/complacent in training, as happens in other activities when we lose drive/curiosity to change #lrnchat
10:13:17 am dawnjmahoney: agree! RT @janehart: Q2) @dawnjmahoney Performance consulting – not just training needs analysis #lrnchat
10:13:36 am dawnjmahoney: @techherding Just thinking about u-wondering if you wd join the fun! #lrnchat
10:13:37 am weblearning: Anyone seen human capital analytics? Their metrics study “Human Capital ROI ratio” & “return on Human Capital Investment” #lrnchat
10:13:44 am JaneBozarth: Q3 . as often as not, a facebook group for sharing and discussion #lrnchat
10:13:49 am bobzimel: OK I m w/ u disappointingly>>RT@LnDDave plenty of trainers … interested …they want … rather than what the org needs.#lrnchat #lrnchat
10:13:51 am ZaraLynnKing: @amirelion But we are all in training…ironic #lrnchat
10:14:04 am learnchamp: Q3 And we use a wiki to document and comment on learnings along the way #lrnchat
10:14:16 am learnchamp: RT @lrnchat: Q3. Think of something you train on now. What would a meaningful alternative look like? #lrnchat
10:14:48 am ZaraLynnKing: meaningful alternatives look like time and money to do it right the first time and have preventative action rather than reactive #lrnchat
10:14:52 am LnDDave: Q3) Something that allows them to get the support they need without stopping their work. #lrnchat
10:15:19 am bobzimel: Q3) Meaningful alternative … shadowing a person and coaching them #lrnchat
10:15:22 am AndyKons: Q3. A community of practice supported through a private social network. #lrnchat
10:15:33 am dan_steer: @kelly_smith01 Here’s a formal social-learning example for corporate use http://t.co/W8QKa80u #lrnchat
10:15:34 am learnchamp: Q3 And we use social networking tools like @Yammer to get conversation going and to connect with experts #lrnchat
10:15:41 am lress: Q3) It is not a question of the tools (wiki or facebook) but to engage people to communicate and share #lrnchat
10:15:59 am FaizanAM: @janehart Completely agree. In my experience, training often loses its relevance when its scope exceeds the need. #lrnchat
10:16:01 am kelly_smith01: RT @dawnjmahoney: agree! RT @janehart: Q2) @dawnjmahoney Performance consulting – not just training needs analysis #lrnchat
10:16:10 am ZaraLynnKing: @scottmerrett in my land there is an elearning solution to everything and as the elearning ID i am not convinced. #lrnchat
10:16:12 am learnchamp: RT @lress: Q3) It is not a question of the tools (wiki or facebook) but to engage people to communicate and share #lrnchat
10:16:27 am JaneBozarth: @weblearning Here’s a really convenient formula for calculating ROI of training http://t.co/4shgcb3c #lrnchat
10:16:31 am amirelion: #lrnchat Q3 I have a good post on that…but it’s in Hebrew…
10:16:42 am BrightTweet: #lrnchat Q3: We’ve been looking at e-mosaics, which blends a variety of media types to provide user-centric learninghttp://t.co/tGKvrLLj
10:16:42 am kevinmulryne: Q3 What ever happened to ‘expert systems’? Motivate to find answers for themselves… #lrnchat
10:17:00 am hjarche: when learning is the work, training becomes a minor character on the organizational performance stage http://t.co/RkTMkP27#lrnchat
10:17:03 am ZaraLynnKing: RT @lrnchat: Q3. Think of something you train on now. What would a meaningful alternative look like? #lrnchat
10:17:21 am kelly_smith01: RT @LnDDave: Q3) Something that allows them to get the support they need without stopping their work. #lrnchat
10:17:33 am elearningguy: Q3) I’d like to sustain more f2f efforts with post workshop/activity discussion. Move to something like a Community of Practice #lrnchat
10:18:31 am kelly_smith01: Not having a course catalog with defined path. #lrnchat
10:18:32 am amirelion: #lrnchat Q3 alternative 4 me would usually include a blend w/ various solutions & division of responsibilities btwn learner manager sme…
10:18:44 am awooler: to extend @LnDDave Q3) something that allows them to get support as PART of their work #lrnchat
10:18:50 am dawnjmahoney: Q3)Anyting that begs learners to use & apply critical thinking #lrnchat
10:19:07 am KathyJeep: RT @LnDDave: Q3) Something that allows them to get the support they need without stopping their work. #lrnchat
10:19:53 am learnchamp: RT @amirelion: #lrnchat Q3 alternative 4 me would usually include a blend w/ various solutions & division of responsibilities btwn learner manager sme…
10:19:53 am J_Haag: Here’s my question relating to training on #lrnchat is “how do we make mandatory & compliance training feel less forced upon?”
10:19:54 am SesanBass: RT @BrightTweet: #lrnchat Q3: We’ve been looking at e-mosaics, which blends a variety of media types to provide user-centric learning http://t.co/tGKvrLLj
10:19:55 am trchandler: Yes. Provide destination and map and let learners drive. RT @kelly_smith01: Not having a course catalog with defined path.#lrnchat
10:20:16 am LnDDave: Q3) True Blended Learning, which is different than the Blended Training we call Blended Learning today. #lrnchat
10:20:18 am lress: Q3) Help and support people to connect and exchange their ideas – free and open #lrnchat
10:20:46 am janehart: Q3) It depends on what is to be achieved – if continuous learning is involved then this needs to be supported in the workflow#lrnchat
10:20:46 am learnchamp: RT @LnDDave: Q3) True Blended Learning, which is different than the Blended Training we call Blended Learning today.#lrnchat
10:20:57 am KathyJeep: Q3) I’d rather spend more time helping people help themselves.. would make training itself more meaningful #lrnchat
10:21:12 am kevinmulryne: RT @lress: Q3) Help and support people to connect and exchange their ideas – free and open #lrnchat
10:21:19 am weblearning: @JaneBozarth Aha the formula at last. My trainer in HC analytics told me that the formula she used was proprietory#lrnchat
10:21:21 am ZaraLynnKing: We have to assume ppl know basically how to do their job. if not they need training. The rest is support and performace adjustment #lrnchat
10:21:43 am hjarche: mandatory training would be much more accepted if it wasn’t, you know; mandatory #lrnchat
10:22:02 am weblearning: Here’s a really convenient formula for calculating ROI of training http://t.co/18Fk3cnL #lrnchat via @JaneBozarth
10:22:02 am bobzimel: LOL rainbow @JaneBozarth Here’s a really convenient formula for calculating ROI of training http://t.co/1q3CMqSB #lrnchat
10:22:13 am FaizanAM: Q3. A comm of users sharing & vetting their knowledge/expertise rather than a monolithic course thats outdated before its released #lrnchat
10:22:30 am dawnjmahoney: EZ 4 u to typeRT @LnDDave: Q3) True Blended Learning, which is different than the Blended Training we call Blended Learning today. #lrnchat
10:22:43 am learnchamp: @J_Haag That is not that difficult in case the client / project owner would be open to allow a new approach #lrnchat
10:22:44 am dawnjmahoney: RT @lress: RT @trchandler Yes. Provide destination and map and let learners drive. #lrnchat
10:22:47 am kevinmulryne: RT @hjarche: mandatory training would be much more accepted if it wasn’t, you know; mandatory #lrnchat -> LOL
10:22:55 am dawnjmahoney: RT @kevinmulryne: RT @lress: Q3) Help and support people to connect and exchange their ideas – free and open#lrnchat
10:22:59 am awooler: @J_Haag getting rid of the regulators would go a long way to achieve that! Their desire for ticked boxes often determines how#lrnchat
10:23:03 am LT12uk: RT @BrightTweet: #lrnchat Q3: We’ve been looking at e-mosaics, which blends a variety of media types to provide user-centric learning http://t.co/tGKvrLLj
10:23:07 am kelly_smith01: RT @trchandler: Yes. Provide destination and map and let learners drive. —— Not having a course catalog with defined path. #lrnchat
10:23:11 am amirelion: @ZaraLynnKing #lrnchat also sometimes need to lead change in ppl attitudes
10:23:16 am trchandler: Learner desire essential element RT @hjarche: mandatory training would be much more accepted if it wasnt, you know; mandatory #lrnchat
10:23:45 am dawnjmahoney: Isn’t every day’s work (& life) continuous learning on some level? #lrnchat
10:23:46 am JaneBozarth: @bobzimel @weblearning Dave made me take out the unicorns. #lrnchat
10:23:58 am hjarche: RT @JaneBozarth: @weblearning Here’s a really convenient formula for calculating ROI of training http://t.co/4shgcb3c #lrnchat
10:24:42 am LnDDave: Q3) Less pushing of content and more building of connections. #lrnchat
10:24:53 am kelly_smith01: RT @dawnjmahoney: RT @kevinmulryne: RT @lress: Q3) Help and support people to connect and exchange their ideas – free and open #lrnchat
10:25:03 am lrnchat: Q4. Why do we con’t to develop training rather than more effective solutions to overcome performance problems? #lrnchat
10:25:25 am ccbranham: RT @JaneBozarth: @weblearning Here’s a really convenient formula for calculating ROI of training http://t.co/4shgcb3c#lrnchat
10:25:36 am kelly_smith01: RT @hjarche: mandatory training would be much more accepted if it wasn’t, you know; mandatory #lrnchat
10:25:40 am bobzimel: If PHENOMENAL it might not need to b “mandatory”>>RT@hjarche: mandatory training…much more accepted if it wasn’t…mandatory #lrnchat
10:25:43 am C4LPT: Q3) “Collaborative working and collaborative learning are in a symbiotic relationship” http://t.co/4h0sGoFY #lrnchat
10:25:44 am KathyJeep: @FaizanAM ”rather than a monolithic course thats outdated before its released” > aways outdated almost immediately#lrnchat
10:25:49 am chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Q4. Why do we cont to develop training rather than more effective solutions to overcome performance problems? #lrnchat
10:25:54 am Dave_Ferguson: -@LnDDave Calling something ‘blended’ doesn’t make it ‘learning’ any more than naming a cat Rover makes her a dog.#lrnchat
10:25:57 am LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q4. Why do we cont to develop training rather than more effective solutions to overcome performance problems?#lrnchat
10:25:58 am trchandler: Last lap RT @lrnchat: Q4. Why do we cont to develop training rather than more effective solutions to overcome performance problems? #lrnchat
10:26:02 am dawnjmahoney: Aw put em in, please? RT @JaneBozarth: @bobzimel @weblearning Dave made me take out the unicorns. #lrnchat
10:26:08 am dawnjmahoney: RT @lrnchat: Q4. Why do we cont to develop training rather than more effective solutions to overcome performance problems? #lrnchat
10:26:15 am trchandler: Q4) see answers for Q1 #lrnchat
10:26:18 am techherding: So when you say “mandatory” @hjarche – are you talking about learner attendance or my payment for developing it?#lrnchat
10:26:22 am LnDDave: RT @Dave_Ferguson: -@LnDDave Calling something blended doesnt make it learning any more than naming a cat Rover makes her a dog. #lrnchat
10:26:22 am mergershark: RT @learnchamp: Q3 And we use social networking tools like @Yammer to get conversation going and to connect with experts #lrnchat
10:26:22 am KathyJeep: RT @lrnchat: Q4. Why do we con’t to develop training rather than more effective solutions to overcome performance problems? #lrnchat
10:26:23 am learnchamp: Q3 Question would be if it is mandatory “information” – tick the box if you read it – or if there is actually a training need#lrnchat
10:26:25 am kelly_smith01: RT @LnDDave: Q3) Less pushing of content and more building of connections. #lrnchat
10:26:32 am J_Haag: Q3. Training is often forced unless learning a new skill. Learning is fun! To make training fun is the alternative. #lrnchat
10:26:34 am learnchamp: RT @lrnchat: Q4. Why do we con’t to develop training rather than more effective solutions to overcome performance problems? #lrnchat
10:26:42 am chet_stevenson: Q4) I think there’s a lack of knowledge & Skill within our own industry – on when and how to improve performance.#lrnchat
10:26:51 am janoallen: @lrnchat Q4 We are asked for training, because it’s easy for the org. Coaching, accountability & chg mgmt are very hard work.#lrnchat
10:27:09 am jesschaikowsky: Interesting discussions on training and the like happening now at #lrnchat. Check it out!
10:27:10 am C4LPT: RT @JaneBozarth: Here’s a really convenient formula for calculating ROI of training http://t.co/3fQvNdGg #lrnchat
10:27:19 am LnDDave: Q4) “Because that’s the way we’ve always done it here.” #lrnchat
10:27:22 am lress: RT @lrnchat: Q4. Why do we con’t to develop training rather than more effective solutions to overcome performance problems?#lrnchat
10:27:26 am C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q4. Why do we con’t to develop training rather than more effective solutions to overcome performance problems?#lrnchat
10:27:29 am JaneBozarth: RT @Dave_Ferguson Calling something blended doesn’t make it learning any more than naming a cat Rover makes her a dog. #lrnchat
10:27:30 am aureamemotech: RT @C4LPT: RT @JaneBozarth: Here’s a really convenient formula for calculating ROI of training http://t.co/3fQvNdGg#lrnchat
10:27:51 am JaneBozarth: Someone remind me to give @dave_ferguson a raise. #lrnchat
10:27:52 am bobzimel: Speak 4 urself @lrnchat A lot of us on the chat do; it is the “others” that don’t Q4)Why do we con’t to develop training ? #lrnchat
10:27:53 am daniellynds: RT @JaneBozarth: @weblearning Here’s a really convenient formula for calculating ROI of training http://t.co/CDoPxTky#lrnchat #awesome
10:27:53 am amirelion: #lrnchat Q4 I try not to continue doing so…LOL
10:27:54 am hjarche: @techherding I would always consider the requirement for you to be paid as mandatory (keeps the goons from busting knee-caps too) #lrnchat
10:28:01 am learnchamp: @chet_stevenson Maybe true – but often it is also a lack of knowledge on the client side – it is our job to educate them#lrnchat
10:28:03 am LnDDave: Meeting time #lrnchat. Thanks for a great chat. Looking forward to reading the remaining transcript. #lrnchat
10:28:10 am elearningguy: Sorry, #lrnchat, got called away to help a colleague.
10:28:19 am LnDDave: RT @JaneBozarth: Someone remind me to give @dave_ferguson a raise. #lrnchat
10:28:21 am learnchamp: RT @LnDDave: Q4) “Because that’s the way we’ve always done it here.” #lrnchat
10:28:31 am lress: RT @C4LPT: RT @JaneBozarth: Here’s a really convenient formula for calculating ROI of training http://t.co/3fQvNdGg #lrnchat
10:28:41 am sukainaw: Q4. Bcoz we don’t know what we don’t know so training is the ‘answer’ #lrnchat
10:28:43 am KathyJeep: Q4) B/c mgmt sees training as an event and makes time for it. Other solutions = more discrete = less dedicated time #lrnchat
10:28:47 am MikeCollins007: A4. Training is highly visible, a quick fix, tick box, going through the motions rather than the harder route cause problem solve #lrnchat
10:29:08 am kelly_smith01: Q4) Preserving careers, playing defined role in org. chart, not rocking the boat, producing a product not a solution.#lrnchat
10:29:18 am bobzimel: @lrnchat How long does this chat continue? T/Y #lrnchat
10:29:24 am elearningguy: Q4) because we have to satisfy the customer (learner), the client (requestor), and the purchaser ($$$). Whose say-so wins? #lrnchat
10:29:32 am dawnjmahoney: @LnDDave - Enjoy! Hope it is on dev training! :-)  #lrnchat
10:29:37 am learnchamp: Q4 Because it is not so easy and convenient to come up with something new and better – especially if no one pushes you#lrnchat
10:29:43 am weblearning: @JaneBozarth They use formula to quantify the impact of training on sectors. e.g if ROI is low for sales training, don’t train them #lrnchat
10:29:48 am AnnaRBrotzel: RT @lrnchat: Q4. Why do we con’t to develop training rather than more effective solutions to overcome performance problems? #lrnchat
10:30:10 am kelly_smith01: RT @Dave_Ferguson: -@LnDDave Calling it ‘blended’ doesn’t make it ‘learning’ any more than naming a cat Rover makes her a dog. #lrnchat
10:30:22 am chet_stevenson: @learnchamp Yes, if the client blatantly refuses to listen then you’ve gatta do what you’ve gatta do. #lrnchat
10:30:25 am trchandler: Q4) it’s a much easier sell than more flexible learner led solutions #lrnchat
10:30:38 am AndyKons: Q4. Because training can be documented, evaluated and certified…#lrnchat
10:30:43 am stayingaliveuk: RT @KathyJeep: Q4) B/c mgmt sees training as an event and makes time for it. Other solutions = more discrete = less dedicated time #lrnchat
10:31:02 am hjarche: @lrnchat courses are cheap & easy to develop compared to relevant activities that provide contextual practice, feedback & modelling #lrnchat
10:31:28 am dawnjmahoney: Q4) Cuz “we” don’t always know what alternatives exist? Complacency? “we always do it this way”? #lrnchat
10:31:49 am JaneBozarth: @weblearning Must be some formula. I love imaginary numbers. #lrnchat
10:31:50 am trchandler: True. Proof that I did something. RT @AndyKons: Q4. Because training can be documented, evaluated and certified…#lrnchat#lrnchat
10:31:58 am kelly_smith01: Q4) Because it flows through your standard ADDIE flow chart. Deciding not to use training does not compute. #lrnchat
10:32:06 am J_Haag: Q4. There’s a misconception that training is always the right solution. We need model for FEA leading to more #PerfSupsolutions. #lrnchat
10:32:10 am michaelmgrant: RT @J_Haag: Here’s my question relating to training on #lrnchat is “how do we make mandatory & compliance training feel less forced upon?”
10:32:10 am learnchamp: Q4 Evolution is quite hard – revolution is sometimes more efficient – Nokia did not see smartphones that important until iPhone #lrnchat
10:33:24 am elearningguy: @stayingaliveuk @KathyJeep Mgmt rarely makes time fr “more discrete” methods b/c it might take away fr production in the salt mines #lrnchat
10:33:25 am amirelion: #lrnchat a thought: I think trainers think it might be easier to charge for training (=days) than for performance support (=???)
10:33:28 am dan_steer: Q4 Because the people on #lrnchat+other LEARNING people are not placed in corporate L+D functions. Those people often = “trainer become mgr”
10:33:36 am kelly_smith01: Q4) Because it fits in a binder, classroom, class time, e-learning lesson, you can see, touch, and hear it. #lrnchat
10:33:42 am BrightTweet: #lrnchat Q4: This debate uncovers some of the barriers to a shift away from courses to resources: http://t.co/OATdnT8l
10:33:43 am stayingaliveuk: Q4) #lrnchat cause it shows we are ‘doing’ something, like helping your baby learn to walk…”
10:34:09 am learnchamp: Q4 RFPs asks for eLearning content pricing – hard to come up with totally different approach #lrnchat
10:34:13 am JaneBozarth: @chris_saeger Overheard: “…so I threatened to send him to leadership training.” #lrnchat
10:34:48 am stayingaliveuk: RT @amirelion: #lrnchat a thought: I think trainers think it might be easier to charge for training (=days) than for performance support (=???)
10:34:50 am awooler: RT@AndyKons Q4. Because training can be documented, evaluated and certified…#lrnchat > spot on for those of us in Regulated Businesses
10:34:54 am dan_steer: Thx to all on #lrnchat - I enjoyed + I’m glad I switched to admin mode” in order to get involved. Bon weekend!
10:34:59 am trchandler: Improvement is a contact sport RT @kelly_smith01: …it fits in a binder, classroom, class time, you can see, touch, and hear it.#lrnchat
10:35:00 am bobzimel: This was a serious Q – the bottom of the hour? @lrnchat How long does this chat continue? T/Y #lrnchat
10:35:04 am LnDDave: Q4) Because many of us deliver what is asked instead of consulting. #lrnchat
10:35:12 am JaneBozarth: I meant to add: ROI. Bless their hearts. #lrnchat
10:35:38 am KathyJeep: RT @kelly_smith01: Q4) Because it fits in a binder, classroom, class time, e-learning lesson, you can see, touch, and hear it.#lrnchat
10:35:45 am hjarche: “T&D exposes poor mgt/structure. It is the best way to piss-off people when what they learn can’t be applied in the org.” #lrnchat
10:35:47 am elearningguy: @trchandler @AndyKons Oh yes…a certificate always means “Look at me, I’m trained!!” #lrnchat
10:35:52 am LnDDave: RT @bobzimel: yes, it ends at 11am EST. It’s 90 minutes. #lrnchat
10:36:02 am amirelion: @bobzimel 90 minutes #lrnchat
10:36:04 am learnchamp: Q4 So… Be faster then the next RFP – evangelize people before and try something radically different #lrnchat <give it a chance>
10:36:07 am dawnjmahoney: Q4) Butts in seats is a tangible “metric” (=lowest common denominator) #lrnchat
10:36:27 am learnchamp: RT @LnDDave: Q4) Because many of us deliver what is asked instead of consulting. #lrnchat
10:36:27 am dawnjmahoney: @bobzimel 90 min Bob #lrnchat
10:36:37 am AndrewJacobsLD: #lrnchat Sorry,been busy.Q4 B/cause ppl who have had trng before think it’s the solution and uncomfortable with alternatives
10:36:40 am moehlert: @hjarche #lrnchat Even if it was mandatory – IF employees could see that its mandatory because its mission critical and ldrship values it
10:36:49 am kelly_smith01: @learnchamp Yes. It has a pricing model. And fits into a MicroSoft Project spreadsheet. #lrnchat
10:36:50 am AjayPangarkar: RT @JaneBozarth: @weblearning Here’s a really convenient formula for calculating ROI of training http://t.co/4shgcb3c#lrnchat
10:37:11 am hjarche: “@mattsardina: T&D exposes poor mgt/structure. It’s best way to piss-off people when what they learn can’t be applied in the org” #lrnchat
10:37:13 am learnchamp: RT @kelly_smith01: @learnchamp Yes. It has a pricing model. And fits into a MicroSoft Project spreadsheet. #lrnchat
10:37:17 am JaneBozarth: @JaneBozarth Well hi Ajay how’s things? #lrnchat
10:37:21 am AndyKons: Thanks for the RTs! :)  #lrnchat
10:37:30 am elearningguy: RT @janebozarth: I meant to add: ROI. Bless their hearts. #lrnchat #unicornsandrainbows
10:37:40 am LnDDave: Q4) Because people will expect learning to be what they’ve experienced until someone shows them different. #lrnchat
10:37:43 am trchandler: @elearningguy certificates have that reassuring “You have arrived” feeling cc: @AndyKons #lrnchat
10:38:00 am dawnjmahoney: Q4) Wordsmithing “brainstorming” at meeting w/Sr Leadershp is hard work! #lrnchat
10:38:28 am TomTommy16: FACEBOOK + 8 MINUTES = $1,346 http://t.co/1YSdSVSd #thevoice, #xfactor #lrnchat,
10:38:34 am bobzimel: @dawnjmahoney @ LnDDave I’m exhausted…I need to build up to this LOS sortof >> 90 min #lrnchat
10:38:42 am learnchamp: @LnDDave: Q4) Because people will expect learning to be what they’ve experienced until someone shows them different.#lrnchat <correct>
10:38:50 am elearningguy: @trchandler @AndyKons Yeah, I used to fall for that in my MCP/MCSE/MCT days. Now, not so much. #lrnchat
10:39:05 am LnDDave: RT @chet_stevenson: Q4) I think theres a lack of knowledge/Skill within our own industry – on when and how to improve performance. #lrnchat
10:39:13 am addogaudium: Love this! From@JaneBozarth: Formula for ROI of training #lrnchat http://t.co/pxcXnSLf via @TwitPic
10:39:16 am tonyplant: MT @learnchamp Q4 So… Be faster then the next RFP – evangelize people before… #lrnchat <get in higher up the value chain to make impact>
10:39:43 am stayingaliveuk: @KathyJeep @elearningguy #lrnchat what’s concrete made from?
10:39:49 am techherding: Nothing wrong with being “forced” to learn. I want my airline pilot “forced” to learn a new aircraft. #lrnchat
10:39:51 am amirelion: #lrnchat Q4 I think also because not many of us know how to offer and construct better performance support alternatives
10:40:02 am btopro: #lrnchat what was Q4
10:40:02 am lrnchat: Q5. What are some meaningful education approaches (that aren’t training) you could start working on now? #lrnchat
10:40:08 am LnDDave: @bobzimel Ha. You get used to it. It’s kinda like jumping into a raging river the first few times. #lrnchat
10:40:14 am learnchamp: RT @lrnchat: Q5. What are some meaningful education approaches (that aren’t training) you could start working on now?#lrnchat
10:40:14 am trchandler: @AndrewJacobsLD converting certificates to merit badges would be a fun experiment cc: @elearningguy @AndyKons#lrnchat
10:40:15 am btopro: RT @lrnchat: Q5. What are some meaningful education approaches (that aren’t training) you could start working on now?#lrnchat
10:40:18 am kelly_smith01: People see learning as an event where they are managed, restricted, guided, evaluated, etc. #lrnchat\
10:40:25 am Sharon_Boller: And we must encourage a shift from that mindset RT @AndyKons: Q4. Because training can be documented, evaluated and certified…#lrnchat
10:40:29 am kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q5. What are some meaningful education approaches (that aren’t training) you could start working on now?#lrnchat
10:40:30 am dawnjmahoney: Here’s a question:Who says their performance needs improving? n my world 1 person says it so it must be so. #lrnchat
10:40:44 am trchandler: RT @lrnchat: Q5. What are some meaningful education approaches (that arent training) you could start working on now?#lrnchat
10:40:49 am C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q5. What are some meaningful educational approaches (that aren’t training) you could start working on now?#lrnchat
10:40:50 am LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q5. What are some meaningful education approaches (that arent training) you could start working on now?#lrnchat
10:40:51 am learnchamp: RT @tonyplant: MT @learnchamp Q4 So… Be faster then the next RFP – evangelize people before… #lrnchat <get in higher up the value chain to make impact>
10:41:06 am lress: RT @lrnchat: Q5. What are some meaningful education approaches (that arent training) you could start working on now? #lrnchat
10:41:13 am steveboller: Mobile apps that provide as-needed, informal job support and encourage interaction. #lrnchat
10:41:16 am JaneBozarth: @stayingaliveuk heh. good. #lrnchat
10:41:18 am davehuese: RT @Dave_Ferguson Calling something blended doesn’t make it learning any more than naming a cat Rover makes her a dog. #lrnchat
10:41:21 am bobzimel: Q5: Shadow/ride along coaching – love it #lrnchat
10:41:36 am bobzimel: Q5) Great job aids #lrnchat
10:41:39 am btopro: #lrnchat Q5 creating environments conducive to learner self-discovery / learning from each other
10:41:51 am LnDDave: Q5) Performance Support in the workflow. #lrnchat
10:42:03 am steveboller: Tablets, mobile devices should entice orgs to unchain themselves from their desktop text and next solutions #lrnchat
10:42:06 am LnDDave: RT @bobzimel: Q5) Great job aids #lrnchat
10:42:17 am kelly_smith01: Q5) Deploying some of the practices in Gawande’s “Checklist Manifesto” and similar sources. #lrnchat
10:42:26 am FaizanAM: RT @KathyJeep: Q4) B/c mgmt sees training as an event and makes time for it. Other solutions = more discrete = less dedicated time #lrnchat
10:42:31 am learnchamp: Q5 Talking to / playing with (your) kids #lrnchat
10:42:31 am bobzimel: Q5) Knowing people’s learning styles and letting them learn versus teachin them #lrnchat
10:42:44 am LnDDave: Q5) Create an environment where it is safe to fail and get out of the way. #lrnchat
10:42:55 am C4LPT: Q5) I show how social media can be used to support different approaches here http://t.co/m78sj5L8 #lrnchat
10:43:04 am kelly_smith01: RT @LnDDave: Q5) Create an environment where it is safe to fail and get out of the way. #lrnchat
10:43:12 am sukainaw: Asking people to have a go anyway and to shout if they need help #lrnchat
10:43:15 am weblearning: 4 Shift training out of HR. Drive organizational performance through line managers using their assets effectively #lrnchat#doIsoundlikeHCA
10:43:22 am dawnjmahoney: RT @lrnchat: Q5. What are some meaningful education approaches (that arent training) you could start working on now? #lrnchat
10:43:23 am bobzimel: RT LnDDave Q5) Create an environment where it is safe to fail and get out of the way. #lrnchat #lrnchat
10:43:24 am stayingaliveuk: RT @lrnchat: Q5. What are some meaningful education approaches (that aren’t training) you could start working on now? #lrnchat
10:43:31 am AndyKons: @AndyKons @trchandler @AndrewJacobsLD @elearningguy #lrnchat Agreed! Certificates are basically a form of gamebased learning achievements!
10:43:42 am amirelion: #lrnchat Q5 I am building my own framework drawing from perf. support, 70:20:10, spaced lrning, lrning typology and from people on my PLN
10:44:04 am LnDDave: @bobzimel Interesting that you mention #learningstyles; we’re hoping to clear up some of the misconceptions about them next week. #lrnchat
10:44:13 am JaneBozarth: Q5. Listen. #lrnchat
10:44:16 am bobzimel: Q5) @lnddave people don’t fail often enough for the right reasons #lrnchat
10:44:22 am LnDDave: RT @C4LPT: Q5) I show how social media can be used to support different approaches here http://t.co/zPZThixm #lrnchat
10:44:33 am BLPindy: Focus on culture shifts and systemic organizational problems rather than creating a flashy new training program for its own sake. #lrnchat
10:44:38 am kelly_smith01: Delver training (performance support) as close to the time and place of performance as possible. #lrnchat
10:44:39 am elearningguy: @andykons @trchandler @AndrewJacobsLD Well then, where’s my level-up? #lrnchat
10:44:40 am KathyJeep: Q5) For internal systems.. involvment in interface design to help eliminate need for training bandaids of poor design #lrnchat
10:44:44 am LnDDave: RT @JaneBozarth: Q5. Listen. #lrnchat
10:44:58 am ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat I am on a big poster kick… it is fun
10:45:03 am dawnjmahoney: Q5)M learning modules of routine tasks=Just In Time/when needed/visual for ESL assoc #lrnchat
10:45:17 am bobzimel: Excellent – I’ll buckle up >>@LnDDave #learningstyles; we’re hoping to clear up some of the misconceptions about them next week. #lrnchat
10:45:23 am ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat see dick…don’t be dick…lol my H&S manager loves it
10:45:26 am sukainaw: Q5) Follow people on Twitter and tweet. #lrnchat
10:45:27 am learnchamp: Q5 Jobs: “Would you like to sell training for the rest of your life or do you want to change the world?” #lrnchat
10:45:33 am BLPindy: For repetitive workplace tasks, create gamified environments, leverage fun and competition to promote achievement. #lrnchat#talktech
10:45:35 am dawnjmahoney: @ZaraLynnKing Hey, tell me more abt this, please? #lrnchat
10:45:51 am elearningguy: @stayingaliveuk @KathyJeep All I know is that it’s strong in compression and weak under tension. Coincidence? #lrnchat
10:46:08 am weblearning: RT @BLPindy: For repetitive workplace tasks, create gamified environments, leverage fun and competition to promote achievement. #lrnchat
10:46:09 am trchandler: How do you mean? RT @ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat I am on a big poster kick… it is fun #lrnchat
10:46:12 am ZaraLynnKing: @dawnjmahoney i will send them to you. But in truth they wouldn’t let me say dick #lrnchat
10:46:26 am dawnjmahoney: Q5)Ask assoc to develop real world scenarios & work thru solutions #lrnchat
10:46:38 am LnDDave: Q5) Start your design with a blank piece of paper instead of a template. #lrnchat
10:46:50 am Sharon_Boller: Can we leverage the growing preference for visual data organization i.e. infographics and photos over text-based presentations? #lrnchat
10:46:52 am dawnjmahoney: @ZaraLynnKing LOL! Oh do send them! Love it! #lrnchat
10:46:56 am stayingaliveuk: Q5) stop saying how, what, where and when and say your choice, you decide, you’re in charge, make it happen #lrnchat
10:46:56 am awooler: Q5) PLN’s – whether there is technology involved or not, encourage our people to develop their own PLN #lrnchat
10:47:04 am ZaraLynnKing: @trchandler #lrnchat I am making H&S posters and the like. this what you should so do it.
10:47:45 am tonyplant: Q5) trial helicopter lesson I use one control, instructor others & shadowing mine. He trusted me straight off, I learnt well#lrnchat
10:47:47 am JaneBozarth: RT @aaronesilvers Every time a trainer mentions ROI, a kitten dies. #lrnchat
10:48:02 am flowchainsensei: @lrnchat: A5. a) coaching b) dialogue c) “pulling” knowledge #lrnchat
10:48:12 am LnDDave: Q5) Realize that most of the answers are out there already, just waiting to be curated and connected to the learner. #lrnchat
10:48:32 am learnchamp: RT @LnDDave: Q5) Realize that most of the answers are out there already, just waiting to be curated and connected to the learner. #lrnchat
10:48:32 am stayingaliveuk: Q5) ps. and have fun! #lrnchat
10:48:47 am amirelion: #lrnchat Q5 ask more meaningful questions to get to the root of the problem. Build from there
10:48:54 am ZaraLynnKing: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @aaronesilvers Every time a trainer mentions ROI, a kitten dies. #lrnchat
10:49:02 am AndrewJacobsLD: Q5 Expand your PLN, graze from the best, try new, focus on the outcome not the metrics. #lrnchat
10:49:06 am dawnjmahoney: @JaneBozarth Thank goodness my ldrs don’t know to ask for that! whew! #lrnchat
10:49:10 am trchandler: @ZaraLynnKing so more of an internal marketing campaign? #lrnchat
10:49:24 am bobzimel: RT @amirelion: #lrnchat Q5 ask more meaningful questions to get to the root of the problem. Build from there #lrnchat
10:49:31 am kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @aaronesilvers Every time a trainer mentions ROI, a kitten dies. #lrnchat
10:49:39 am AndyKons: RT @LnDDave: Q5) Realize that most of the answers are out there already, just waiting to be curated and connected to the learner. #lrnchat
10:49:58 am tonyplant: @JaneBozarth @aaronesilvers because ROI has been mentioned so much we’ve killed all the unicorns & dodo’s so kittens are next :-)  #lrnchat
10:50:00 am ZaraLynnKing: #lrnchat why create learning when you can just remind with a poster. @trchandler I start with is in a basic program then spread the word
10:50:08 am dawnjmahoney: Irony:stuck doing LMS work while here. Can I just say – GET RID OF LMS is answer to all questions? Please? #lrnchat
10:50:21 am weblearning: I sound like a corporate animal. Look what human capital analytics has done to me ;-)  #lrnchat
10:50:23 am AndrewJacobsLD: RT @C4LPT: RT @JaneBozarth: Here’s a really convenient formula for calculating ROI of traininghttp://t.co/3fQvNdGg #lrnchat
10:50:28 am BLPindy: Have to step out. Glad I dropped in on #lrnchat today. Always inspired by the ideas being passed around with this great group. Cheers!
10:50:29 am willsWords: RT @JaneBozarth: Here’s a really convenient formula for calculating ROI of training http://t.co/0VBtVJlf #lrnchat
10:50:55 am amirelion: #lrnchat Q5 don’t just look at knowledge and skills. Look into motivation, processes, tools, measures and hindrances to performance
10:51:05 am LnDDave: RT @tonyplant: because ROI has been mentioned so much weve killed all the unicorns & dodos so kittens are next :-) << Perfect. #lrnchat
10:51:22 am bobzimel: RT@AndyKons RT@LnDDave Realize that most of the answers r out there already, just waiting to be curated and connected 2 the learner #lrnchat
10:51:23 am tonyplant: RT @LnDDave: Q5) Realize that most of the answers are out there already, just waiting to be curated and connected to the learner. #lrnchat
10:51:26 am ZaraLynnKing: @trchandler in my Onboarding we are talking about basic safety expectation i have created posters to show the behaviour #lrnchat
10:51:40 am AndrewJacobsLD: @elearningguy @andykons @trchandler No good unless they add a ‘perk’ to your personal skills. #lrnchat
10:51:45 am AndyKons: Q5. Let learners fail (in a safe, inconsequential environment) #lrnchat
10:51:53 am sukainaw: Q5. Encourage reflection and thinking for learning and discovering. #lrnchat
10:52:01 am Dave_Ferguson: RT @chris_saeger: Saw today “Learning as punishment-Curbing Wasteful Compliance Training” http://t.co/WCar1J1ovia workforce mag #lrnchat
10:52:09 am ZaraLynnKing: @trchandler then i will attache the posters are resources and reference them when talking about safety in job specific trng #lrnchat
10:52:16 am kellygarber: RT @edutainmentm: Can finally make it to a session! Cheryl Lasse, Edutainment Media <– drat, I missed last night! #lrnchat
10:52:28 am trchandler: Tried that, but first think I created was a template RT @LnDDave: Q5) Start design w/ blank piece of paper instead of a template #lrnchat
10:52:43 am bobzimel: @LnDDave did you mean purrfect?>> RT @tonyplant: because ROI…weve killed all the unicorns & dodos so kittens are next << Perfect. #lrnchat
10:52:48 am ZaraLynnKing: @trchandler also i can use them on the job as reminders on safety notice boards and other types places #lrnchat
10:52:50 am LnDDave: Q5) That horse you rode in on? The tall one? Climb down and consider if there’s a better way to do things. ;-)  #lrnchat
10:53:02 am amirelion: #lrnchat Q5 and be prepared to give up some of the (fictional) control
10:53:19 am LnDDave: RT @sukainaw: Q5. Encourage reflection and thinking for learning and discovering. #lrnchat
10:53:22 am dawnjmahoney: Q5) Listen. More. #lrnchat
10:54:02 am AndyKons: Q5. Epistemic games #lrnchat
10:54:24 am bobzimel: And maybe we can conduct a lrnchat on #unicorns next? I have not used seen that word as much in my whole life as past 90 mins LUVIT #lrnchat
10:54:33 am elearningguy: @andrewjacobsld …or I can add it to my LinkedIn profile? ;-)  #lrnchat
10:54:36 am AndrewJacobsLD: @AndyKons No – let learners fail in an environment that matters – the learning lacks value if the environment is too safe. #lrnchat
10:54:44 am anicole87: RT @LnDDave: Q5) Create an environment where it is safe to fail and get out of the way. #lrnchat
10:55:00 am LnDDave: QWrap) join next week’s discussion on #LearningStyles and help set the record straight. Details here: http://t.co/UzxFLQVT#lrnchat
10:55:12 am techherding: Don’t worry @bobzimel – we’re ready to start on the baby seals. #lrnchat
10:55:13 am lrnchat: Qwrap. Time is almost up. Please reintroduce yourself. Share links, requests & shameless plugs. #lrnchat
10:55:24 am learnchamp: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap. Time is almost up. Please reintroduce yourself. Share links, requests & shameless plugs. #lrnchat
10:55:36 am dawnjmahoney: Um…@AndyKons No – let learners fail in an environment that matters – the learning lacks value if the environment is too safe. #lrnchat
10:56:03 am weblearning: Q5) ike this idea of failure. Let’s link it to games where failing makes the game so much more fun. #lrnchat
10:56:09 am ZaraLynnKing: Zara King #lrnchat Thanks everyone for a great chat today.
10:56:12 am SesanBass: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap. Time is almost up. Please reintroduce yourself. Share links, requests & shameless plugs. #lrnchat
10:56:20 am kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith Learning helper North Texas #lrnchat
10:56:25 am awooler: @AndyKons another instant learning moment as I had to check that out! http://t.co/6ley4Vei #lrnchat
10:56:25 am AndrewJacobsLD: @elearningguy Great conversation recently about why someone’s qual section on a CV shd be 1/10 the size of their skills section. #lrnchat
10:56:35 am learnchamp: Qwrap Michael – working @learnchamp - living in Vienna: best city to live in http://t.co/uXCh4T55 #lrnchat
10:56:37 am bobzimel: How is Orwell’s Animal Farm like #lrnchat? ponder for a while #lrnchat
10:56:56 am dawnjmahoney: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap. Time is almost up. Please reintroduce yourself. Share links, requests & shameless plugs. #lrnchat
10:57:15 am techherding: Dick Carlson, hiding from tornadoes in SC. I’ve tied the pugs to furniture. Blogging as http://t.co/ZhPhuQ9T, guaranteed to offend. #lrnchat
10:57:35 am AndyKons: @dawnjmahoney Wouldn’t like to be flying in that plane! :)  #lrnchat
10:57:38 am dawnjmahoney: , CPLP Gr8 Fri a.m. chat everyone! Will be ASTD ICE in May – meet u there? #lrnchat
10:57:54 am janehart: Q5) Let’s stop thinking of people as “learners” in organisations but as “workers” and how we can help them do their jobs ( better) #lrnchat
10:57:58 am LnDDave: FYI… next week’s discussion on #LearningStyles isn’t #lrnchat; it’s kind of an experiment. Details here: http://t.co/UzxFLQVT
10:58:08 am bobzimel: Bob Zimel best (and first) #lrnchat. will be bak next week for #learningstyles like balance of practicality and sarcasm today#lrnchat
10:58:11 am btopro: #lrnchat Bryan, developer of the ELMS project. drupal based learning applications development platform http://t.co/uVNC1TNf
10:58:14 am C4LPT: RT @LnDDave: FYI… next week’s discussion on #LearningStyles isn’t #lrnchat; it’s kind of an experiment. Details here:http://t.co/f67R4k94
10:58:17 am AndyKons: RT @awooler: @AndyKons another instant learning moment as I had to check that out! http://t.co/6ley4Vei #lrnchat
10:58:24 am trchandler: always a pleasure interacting with so many smart people. Thank you #lrnchat
10:58:39 am nele_we: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @aaronesilvers Every time a trainer mentions ROI, a kitten dies. #lrnchat
10:58:45 am learnchamp: RT @LnDDave: FYI… next week’s discussion on #LearningStyles isn’t #lrnchat; it’s kind of an experiment. Details here:http://t.co/UzxFLQVT
10:58:49 am btopro: #lrnchat great sitting in two days in a row for these conversations!
10:58:52 am kelly_smith01: RT @trchandler: always a pleasure interacting with so many smart people. Thank you #lrnchat
10:58:59 am dawnjmahoney: @AndyKons Right! Or the surgery mentioned earlier… Yikes! #lrnchat
10:59:05 am lrnchat: Thanks for joining #lrnchat. We’ll post the transcript on http://t.co/44KgwDqI soon. See you next Friday!
10:59:05 am techherding: RT @bobzimel: How is Orwell’s Animal Farm like #lrnchat? #lrnchat << A few of the animals aren’t selling anything?
10:59:06 am bobzimel: OK thanks @lnddaveFYI… next week’s discussion on #LearningStyles it’s kind of an experiment. Details here:http://t.co/aG0gNGDy #lrnchat
10:59:07 am elearningguy: Qwrap) Mark Sheppard, suffering Leafs fan, L&D consultant for RCAF. Blogging as http://t.co/aTFCpAGd. Thx to all, today!#lrnchat
10:59:14 am amirelion: #lrnchat qwrap Amir Elion dir lrning solutions Kineo Israel. leading alternative in June conference speed dating meet expert solutions bar
10:59:16 am georgekroner: RT @btopro #lrnchat Bryan, developer of the ELMS project. drupal based learning applications development platformhttp://t.co/RHl9X2VO
10:59:20 am AndyKons: @awooler #lrnchat Great work! :)
10:59:51 am awooler: Andy Wooler, now with Kineo in Brighton wondering if there is a secret prize for the 1st mention of the ROI kittens in each#lrnchat!
10:59:53 am learnchamp: RT @lrnchat: Thanks for joining #lrnchat. We’ll post the transcript on http://t.co/44KgwDqI soon. See you next Friday!
11:00:00 am bobzimel: how the heck often are these #lrnchat ’s?>> RT btopro great sitting in two days in a row for these conversations! #lrnchat
11:00:04 am AndrewJacobsLD: @AndyKons @dawnjmahoney Obv you’d help ppl consider the risks – do we play it safe too often? Is that why trng loses credibility? #lrnchat
11:00:27 am sukainaw: RT @C4LPT: RT @LnDDave: FYI… next week’s discussion on #LearningStyles isn’t #lrnchat; it’s kind of an experiment. Details here: http://t.co/f67R4k94
11:01:02 am dawnjmahoney: @awooler Congrats! #lrnchat
11:01:27 am btopro: RT @lrnchat: Thanks for joining #lrnchat. We’ll post the transcript on http://t.co/44KgwDqI soon. See you next Friday!
11:01:29 am dawnjmahoney: @bobzimel offered two times/week to accommodate time zone differences #lrnchat

Transcript 23 February 2012

February 24, 2012
8:30:07 pm lrnchat: Welcome to #lrnchat! How are you tonight?
8:30:10 pm JaneBozarth: @britz hah #lrnchat
8:30:17 pm reubentozman: Are the buggers from #utaou required to join? #Lrnchat
8:30:44 pm AlisonSeaman: “@hjarche: Hyperlinks subvert hierarchy, and networks subvert standardization. http://t.co/EtmUnDAe” #lrnchat #socbiz
8:30:54 pm marciamarcia: Tonight I’m only waving to #lrnchat - Been hit by a nasty cold and compliance may make me cough even more… Enjoy.
8:31:03 pm lrnchat: New to #lrnchat ? We have rules available here: http://t.co/755c8oIh
8:31:52 pm coyenator: #lrnchat is starting so tweeting it up for the next hour
8:32:02 pm lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ the weekly #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself. Where are you from? What have you learned this week?
8:32:07 pm JaneBozarth: I”m looking for the >II button. #lrnchat
8:32:17 pm Quinnovator: oh boy, the #lrnchat memestream rides again, welcome to new and returning participants!
8:32:22 pm britz: “@JaneBozarth: @britz hah #lrnchat” / nice to make u virtually smile Jane :)
8:32:23 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: New to #lrnchat ? We have rules available here: http://t.co/CAqkOTA6 <— Working example of compliance – all about context
8:33:02 pm JaneBozarth: I’m looking for the >ll button . #lrnchat
8:33:11 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ the weekly #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself. Where are you from? What have you learned this week?
8:33:15 pm tmiket: RT @Quinnovator: oh boy, the #lrnchat memestream rides again, welcome to new and returning participants!
8:33:31 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, learning experience design strategist, consultant/author/speaker, genial malcontent, Walnut Creek CA #lrnchat
8:33:44 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman – eLearning Designer at Johns Hopkins in Baltimore. Have taken my share of compliance courses #lrnchat
8:34:06 pm tmiket: Mike Taylor learning design & development in Columbus, Ohio #lrnchat
8:34:18 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith a generally compliant mild mannered learning consultant Plano Texas #lrnchat
8:34:23 pm JD_Dillon: Q0) JD live from Orlando, FL, home of the NBA All-Star Game. I’ve learned that the key to wikis is content, not function. #lrnchat
8:34:26 pm JaneBozarth: Jane, noncompliant,world’s worst bureaucrat. I do learnin’ stuff , write books, poke at bears… #lrnchat
8:34:30 pm billcush: Q0) Hey all….Corp learning guy in Denver right now. This week I learned how badly leaders are needed. #lrnchat
8:34:33 pm minutebio: Q0) Learned 2day, power outages limit how much I can do at work. #lrnchat
8:34:35 pm tmiket: @minutebio Haven’t we all!? #moretocome #lrnchat
8:34:59 pm write2tg: Taruna Goel from Vancouver, BC. Interested in all things learning. Strong believer in human potential. #lrnchat
8:35:21 pm JD_Dillon: @billcush - Tell the managers to get out of the way and let the leaders in! #lrnchat
8:35:25 pm tmiket: Q0 I learned that having a common understanding isn’t as common as everyone thinks #lrnchat
8:35:29 pm kelly_smith01: Learned to today that the more things change the more they change. #lrnchat
8:35:30 pm AnaCristinaPrts: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: New to #lrnchat ? We have rules available here: http://t.co/CAqkOTA6 <— Working example of compliance – all about context
8:35:41 pm TriciaRansom: Hi all. This is Tricia dialing in from Dudley/Oldbury/Birmingham UK. #Lrnchat
8:35:41 pm chris_saeger: Hello from Roanoke VA, 8 inches of snow on Sunday, gone today. I do things learning. #lrnchat
8:35:49 pm minutebio: RT @tmiket: @minutebio Havent we all!? #moretocome | Yes, unless u work on Wall St. :)  #lrnchat
8:35:59 pm jadekaz: Jade Kazmierski, double-crossing compliance builder-naysayer hailing from Milwaukee. Let me know when it’s ok to click Next.#lrnchat
8:36:07 pm LnDDave: Greetings #lrnchat! David Kelly from NYC, looking forward to tonight’s chat.
8:36:12 pm JaneBozarth: Don’t forget to sign in on the roster sheet at the front of the room. #lrnchat
8:36:29 pm coyenator: LaDonna Coy, Learning Chi, New Media & Prevention, Yantis, TX learned again how big a stretch social media is for some people #lrnchat
8:36:41 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: Don’t forget to sign in on the roster sheet at the front of the room. #lrnchat
8:36:44 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: Don’t forget to sign in on the roster sheet at the front of the room. #lrnchat < don’t we need a weigh-in?
8:36:49 pm reubentozman: Reuben Tozman edCetra Training. I learned about google glasses yesterday. Neat. #Lrnchat
8:36:55 pm learner4eva: Hello from KY. Learning program manager, jack of all trades #lrnchat
8:37:02 pm billcush: Q0)…and aspiring social scientist on the brink of something…well…you get the idea. #lrnchat
8:37:10 pm tmiket: @jadekaz Not until you hear someone read you the objectives word for word! #lrnchat
8:37:10 pm LnDDave: RT @JaneBozarth: Don’t forget to sign in on the roster sheet at the front of the room. #lrnchat
8:37:17 pm TriciaRansom: Q0) Learned more British-isms 2day. Mad=Crazy. #Lrnchat
8:37:17 pm coyenator: And learned (again) that nothing changes if nothing changes :-)  #lrnchat
8:37:23 pm JaneBozarth: @coyenator You might want to step back a little, like to the part where you explain that the earth is round. #lrnchat
8:37:26 pm JD_Dillon: @JaneBozarth - Will there be a multiple choice test and level 1 at the end? #lrnchat
8:37:29 pm billcush: @jd_dillon Will do. Have too many managers and not enough leaders…that’s for sure. #lrnchat
8:37:31 pm kitszle: #Kit Behling, friend of Jade Kaz & non-compliant to the core #lrnchat
8:37:36 pm reubentozman: RT @kelly_smith01: Learned to today that the more things change the more they change. ->change is permanent#Lrnchat
8:37:38 pm kelly_smith01: You can not leave #lrnchat or get your certificate of completion until you complete eval form. #lrnchat
8:37:56 pm britz: Tweetchat choking… IPh0ning it for now in #lrnchat
8:38:06 pm JaneBozarth: RT @kelly_smith01: You can not leave #lrnchat or get your certificate of completion until you complete eval form. #lrnchat
8:38:27 pm coyenator: @JaneBozarth yup, some days that’s what my world feels like :-)  #lrnchat
8:38:35 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Tonight’s #lrnchat topic is brought to you by @jmass and a team of people interested in re-imaging compliance training.
8:38:36 pm urbie: #lrnchat mostly autonomous sometimes amazing tweets of a (certain) elearning nature for a period of 90 odd minutes
8:38:40 pm jadekaz: RT @kitszle: #Kit Behling, friend of Jade Kaz & non-compliant to the core >> YAY! Welcome, Kit, aka, twitter newbie #lrnchat
8:38:44 pm Quinnovator: I can be very compliant with the right incentives: social lubricant or sufficient reams of cash :)  #lrnchat
8:38:53 pm LnDDave: if tonight’s #lrnchat does not load properly, please exit and reload the chat to ensure you receive proper credit for attending.
8:38:59 pm britz: Mark Britz – mngr of learning solutions in Syracuse, NY #lrnchat
8:39:02 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Tonights #lrnchat topic is brought to you by @jmass and a team of people interested in re-imaging compliance training. #lrnchat
8:39:02 pm urbie: #lrnchat urbie delgado, instructional designer, http://t.co/kUCk7xGL, rehumanizing distance education one pixel at a time
8:39:03 pm JaneBozarth: The required length of this chat is 90 minutes. You must stay for the whole thing to get credit. #lrnchat
8:39:07 pm jadekaz: RT @kelly_smith01: You can not leave #lrnchat or get your certificate of completion until you complete eval form. #lrnchat
8:39:07 pm billcush: What? RT @janebozarth: RT @kelly_smith01: You can not leave #lrnchat or get your cert of completion until you complete eval form. #lrnchat
8:39:28 pm JaneBozarth: No, we will not be offering “make-up” sessions for those who can’t make the 2 already scheduled. #lrnchat
8:39:28 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Tonight’s #lrnchat topic is brought to you by @jmass and a team of people interested in re-imaging compliance training.
8:39:45 pm Dave_Ferguson: @JaneBozarth If you stay for 3 hours, you can apply for the Endurance Certificate. #lrnchat
8:39:51 pm tmiket: @LnDDave You beat me to THAT one! 8-) #lrnchat
8:39:55 pm AnaCristinaPrts: RT @Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: Don’t forget to sign in on the roster sheet at the front of the room. #lrnchat < don’t we need a weigh-in?
8:40:02 pm lrnchat: Q1) Why is compliance training so reviled? #lrnchat
8:40:04 pm kelly_smith01: This weeks Tweet chat meets SoMe regulation 2.0342 Paragraph B. #lrnchat
8:40:06 pm JD_Dillon: Has anyone ever used the words “imagine” and “compliance training” in the same sentence before? #lrnchat
8:40:08 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Tonights #lrnchat topic is brought to you by @jmass and a team of people interested in re-imaging compliance training. #lrnchat
8:40:18 pm billcush: @janebozarth @kelly_smith01 I refer you to the @Quinnovator ’s link http://t.co/rrzVL1Y3 #lrnchat
8:40:19 pm chris_saeger: what i want to know is, Who made the lawyers into performance improvement experts? #lrnchat
8:40:20 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth yeah, but you don’t actually have to do anything but persist #lrnchat
8:40:29 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why is compliance training so reviled? #lrnchat
8:40:30 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why is compliance training so reviled? #lrnchat
8:40:32 pm stipton: HI all, sorry I’m late – where do I do my push ups for penance? #lrnchat
8:40:36 pm NickVersus: I learned that we can view babies in 3D not not the old foggy sonograms http://t.co/dtVKqVK9 #lrnchat
8:40:39 pm tmiket: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why is compliance training so reviled? #lrnchat
8:40:40 pm jadekaz: When is the bathroom break? Do I need to raise my hand? #lrnchat
8:40:44 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why is compliance training so reviled? #Lrnchat
8:40:44 pm LnDDave: RT @tmiket: @LnDDave You beat me to THAT one! 8-) #lrnchat << ;-)
8:40:45 pm Quinnovator: q1) because it’s focused on CYA, not WYL (what you learn) #lrnchat
8:40:46 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) I only have 160 characters to answer that question? Impossible! #lrnchat
8:40:49 pm kelly_smith01: RT @stipton: HI all, sorry I’m late – where do I do my push ups for penance? #lrnchat
8:40:52 pm jadekaz: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why is compliance training so reviled? #lrnchat
8:40:55 pm stipton: RT @minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why is compliance training so reviled? #lrnchat
8:41:01 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why is compliance training so reviled? #lrnchat
8:41:05 pm britz: Q1) cuz its historically booooooring #lrnchat
8:41:10 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: q1) because it’s focused on CYA, not WYL (what you learn) #lrnchat
8:41:11 pm rovybranon: RT @tmiket: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why is compliance training so reviled? #lrnchat
8:41:13 pm DamnDigital: I learned that we can view babies in 3D not not the old foggy sonograms http://t.co/WNi8Ui9l #lrnchat
8:41:21 pm coyenator: RT @JD_Dillon: Has anyone ever used the words “imagine” and “compliance training” in the same sentence before? #lrnchat
8:41:32 pm billcush: It’s boring. RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why is compliance training so reviled? #lrnchat
8:41:41 pm stipton: Q1) because its gawd awful #lrnchat
8:41:42 pm minutebio: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: q1) because its focused on CYA, not WYL (what you learn) #lrnchat
8:41:43 pm LnDDave: RT @Quinnovator: q1) because it’s focused on CYA, not WYL (what you learn) #lrnchat
8:41:49 pm chris_saeger: Q1) it is rarely based on a learner’s needs. it is just to document something for a regulatory body. #lrnchat
8:41:55 pm jadekaz: Q1) I would answer why it’s so reviled, but I need to run it through Compliance first. #lrnchat
8:42:06 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) Compliance training is too often a check in the proverbial box activity to back-up disciplinary action. #lrnchat
8:42:10 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) because it’s usually irrelevant to what I do. #Lrnchat
8:42:10 pm kelly_smith01: The end-user and the developer/facilitator don not see the relation to on the job performance. #lrnchat
8:42:16 pm write2tg: Q1) Because it is not designed for learners. It is designed for laws and regulations. #lrnchat
8:42:22 pm billcush: Q1) Compliance training is rarely designed to encourage any learning what so ever…designed to satisfy a requirement only.#lrnchat
8:42:23 pm Quinnovator: q1) it’s not focused on making meaningful change, consequently uninteresting, ineffective, a colossal waste of time and money #lrnchat
8:42:34 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why is compliance training so reviled? #lrnchat
8:42:45 pm DamnDigital: RT jadekaz Q1) I would answer why it’s so reviled, but I need to run it through Compliance first. #lrnchat
8:42:52 pm LnDDave: Q1) because no one cares about what is learned, only what is ‘covered’ #lrnchat
8:42:57 pm EdutainmentM: #lrnchat Can finally make it to a session! Cheryl Lasse, Edutainment Media
8:43:00 pm stipton: Q1) cuz Its about the rules not about the learner. #lrnchat
8:43:07 pm learner4eva: Q1)what’s in for others vs. WIIFM. Lacks creativity, originality, etc. #lrnchat
8:43:09 pm coyenator: RT @chris_saeger: Q1) it is rarely based on a learner’s needs. it is just to document something for a regulatory body. #lrnchat
8:43:10 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) Cause its so focused on applying to all it applies to none. #Lrnchat
8:43:14 pm kitszle: RT @jadekaz: Q1) I would answer why its so reviled, but I need to run it through Compliance first. #lrnchat
8:43:16 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) Why is compliance training different? How is it not just like other things people need to learn to do their jobs? #lrnchat
8:43:19 pm LnDDave: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) because it’s usually irrelevant to what I do. #Lrnchat
8:43:20 pm JustStormy: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why is compliance training so reviled? #lrnchat
8:43:25 pm Dave_Ferguson: We haven’t said what specific compliance, but where it’s mandated fr outside, 1 reason for dislike is fear of consequences. #lrnchat
8:43:26 pm jadekaz: Q1) Because it’s the same. Each. And. Every. Year. After. Year. After………………..Just click Next or it won’t go away. #lrnchat
8:43:28 pm LnDDave: RT @write2tg: Q1) Because it is not designed for learners. It is designed for laws and regulations. #lrnchat
8:43:29 pm billcush: I say the topic is relevant, the manner in which delivered is not. RT @triciaransom: Q1) because it’s irrelevant to what I do.#Lrnchat
8:43:34 pm DamnDigital: RT billcush Compliance training is rarely designed to encourage any learning what so ever…designed to satisfy a requirement only. #lrnchat
8:43:38 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Many already know or practice the performance contained in most compliance learning. #lrnchat
8:43:38 pm weisblatt: QIntro: Joining lrnchat late: Adam Weisblatt from CT eLEarning designer. Learned that my company makes an awesome product. #lrnchat
8:43:41 pm tmiket: @DamnDigital Which involves a committee and endless meetings no doubt #lrnchat
8:43:49 pm weisblatt: RT @JustStormy: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why is compliance training so reviled? #lrnchat
8:43:51 pm write2tg: Q1) because it is irrelevant to my daily life, it doesn’t make me think, it doesn’t engage with me. #lrnchat
8:43:56 pm JaneBozarth: Nobody likes to hear “you have to”. #lrnchat
8:44:15 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) How often is compliance training created by HR managers and lawyers rather than practiced learning professionals?#lrnchat
8:44:20 pm tmiket: RT @jadekaz: Q1) Because it’s the same. Each. And. Every. Year. After. Year. After…………Just click Next or it won’t go away.#lrnchat
8:44:21 pm tmiket: #lrnchat
8:44:22 pm weisblatt: Q1) Because people have used compliance to build job security on a culture of fear. #lrnchat
8:44:32 pm Quinnovator: q1) because I have to do it each year, the same thing, and it’s been awful every time #lrnchat
8:44:40 pm stipton: Because you are usually participating as a hostage because someone did something stupid. #lrnchat
8:44:41 pm Quinnovator: RT @weisblatt: Q1) Because people have used compliance to build job security on a culture of fear. #lrnchat
8:44:44 pm minutebio: Q1) Compliance needs 2 b more relevant 2 people’s job & not just check the box #lrnchat
8:44:53 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) I am a good person/employee/citizen why insist on training me about it? #lrnchat
8:44:53 pm EdutainmentM: Q1) Because compliance training is for the organization, not the learner. Top-down rarely changes behavior. #lrnchat #sdl#sdle
8:45:05 pm LnDDave: because even the stakeholders discuss it as “we just need to get this done”. #lrnchat
8:45:08 pm tmiket: Q1 I’ve NEVER seen a compliance training that changed single thing I DO (or don’t DO) #lrnchat
8:45:10 pm JaneBozarth: But..it’s our job to make it better. Don’t blame the content. Make it so good that people want to attend it. Yes you can too.#lrnchat
8:45:13 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: RT @weisblatt: Q1) Because people have used compliance to build job security on a culture of fear.#lrnchat
8:45:16 pm Quinnovator: RT @stipton: Q1) cuz Its about the rules not about the learner. #lrnchat
8:45:18 pm TriciaRansom: RT @stipton: Because you are usually participating as a hostage because someone did something stupid. #Lrnchat
8:45:25 pm LnDDave: RT @JaneBozarth: Nobody likes to hear “you have to”. #lrnchat
8:45:26 pm DamnDigital: @tmiket isn’t that the truth, then nothing get done. #lrnchat
8:45:29 pm britz: RT @stipton: Because you are usually participating as a hostage because someone did something stupid. #lrnchat
8:45:33 pm Dave_Ferguson: Compliance I have seen: usual EEO/harassment stuff, but also ISO 9000 ritual, mandatory FDA/FAA/SEC stuff. #lrnchat
8:45:38 pm EdutainmentM: RT @JaneBozarth: Nobody likes to hear “you have to”. #lrnchat
8:45:40 pm Quinnovator: because sometimes it’s used as punishment #lrnchat
8:45:46 pm tmiket: @stipton YES..so we are all punished instead of someone addressing the 1 offender #lrnchat
8:45:50 pm denniscallahan: Q1) it often feels like training punishment #Lrnchat
8:46:02 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) Compliance training is often framed as “don’t do this or else.” #lrnchat
8:46:02 pm stipton: Did the handbook tell you that? LOL RT @kelly_smith01: Q1) I am a good person/employee/citizen why insist on training me about it? #lrnchat
8:46:13 pm LnDDave: q1) honestly, compliance training is reviled because that’s where we’ve allowed the bar to be set. #lrnchat
8:46:17 pm Dave_Ferguson: RT @JaneBozarth: Our job: make it better. Dont blame content. Make it so good that people want to attend it. Yes you can too. #lrnchat
8:46:23 pm coyenator: RT @britz: RT @stipton: Because you are usually participating as a hostage because someone did something stupid. #lrnchat
8:46:38 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) often the training is neither developed, delivered by anyone in my org. Generic. #Lrnchat
8:46:41 pm weisblatt: Q1) And don’t blame the regulator. They just want to know that people know how to keep their stakeholder’s safe. #lrnchat
8:46:43 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) Because if you don’t get 100% on the multiple choice test, you’re fired. #lrnchat
8:46:44 pm britz: RT @tmiket: Q1 Ive NEVER seen a compliance training that changed single thing I DO (or dont DO) / it aint abt performance now is it#lrnchat
8:47:00 pm tmiket: Q1 It’s never asked for by anyone…gee can’t wait to take that Security Awareness again this year!!! #lrnchat
8:47:05 pm Quinnovator: q1) because measured wrong, like by time instead of performance. Cf Gery “why don’t we just weigh them?”http://t.co/HXta215N #lrnchat
8:47:05 pm write2tg: Q1) It is like changing a flat tire – you get no joy in doing so but you got to do it! #lrnchat
8:47:07 pm billcush: But you have to wear the ribbon. RT @kelly_smith01: Q1) I am a good person/employee/citizen why insist on training me about it? #lrnchat
8:47:10 pm jadekaz: RT @stipton: Did the handbook tell you that RT @kelly_smith01: Q1) I am a good employee/citizen why insist on training me about it? #lrnchat
8:47:28 pm AnaCristinaPrts: RT @JD_Dillon: Q1) Because if you don’t get 100% on the multiple choice test, you’re fired. #lrnchat
8:47:29 pm kelly_smith01: Q1 It reminds of 3rd grade when the entire class was punished because of one or two students were bad. #lrnchat
8:47:40 pm AnaCristinaPrts: RT @coyenator: RT @britz: RT @stipton: Because you are usually participating as a hostage because someone did something stupid. #lrnchat
8:47:49 pm tmiket: @britz No..no it certainly isn’t. Totally “check the box” training aka CYA #lrnchat
8:47:50 pm weisblatt: Q1) There’s a great opportunity to redefine what it means to know what you need to do to protect others. #lrnchat
8:48:08 pm JaneBozarth: OH: “… so I threatened to send him to leadership training.” #lrnchat
8:48:10 pm Dave_Ferguson: Ex boss on EEO discrim: GE needs best people. Don’t do stuff to scare ‘em off. Here are examples… #lrnchat
8:48:16 pm minutebio: Q1) Often compliance training tries to give every1 a PhD on the subject when they need just what is pertinent to job #lrnchat
8:48:19 pm billcush: Q0) Is it because “training” doesn’t create it? That HR or the legal department buys or creates it? #lrnchat
8:48:21 pm stipton: @tmiket or that harassment course LOL! #lrnchat
8:48:25 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) because I’m measured on how long I take the training, not if I apply it. #Lrnchat
8:48:34 pm Quinnovator: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) because I’m measured on how long I take the training, not if I apply it. #Lrnchat
8:48:48 pm JD_Dillon: @tmiket @britz - Exactly. And the ‘A’ in CYA is the company’s, not the employees! #lrnchat
8:48:49 pm write2tg: Q1) Most compliance training is about a legal position. It is not about doing the right things or doing things the right way. #lrnchat
8:48:58 pm Dave_Ferguson: (more GE) THESE things are illegal X,Y,Z. These things aren’t illegal but we don’t want them here: A,B,C… #lrnchat
8:49:00 pm coyenator: RT @minutebio: Q1) Often compliance training tries to give every1 a PhD on the subject when they need just what is pertinent to job #lrnchat
8:49:13 pm JaneBozarth: @billcush i know plenty of training people who create it. and blame the content if it’s boring. #lrnchat
8:49:13 pm learner4eva: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) because Im measured on how long I take the training, not if I apply it. >>very true #lrnchat
8:49:26 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Some compliance such as the before mentioned enterprise wide quality practices are more understandable. #lrnchat
8:49:27 pm LnDDave: q1) because much of it is nothing more than text on a screen with occasional Next buttons. #lrnchat
8:49:36 pm britz: compliance training is CYA that instantly makes ppl check-out …as in C-Ya! #lrnchat
8:49:42 pm DamnDigital: RT @dave_ferguson: (more GE) THESE things are illegal X,Y,Z. These things aren’t illegal but we don’t want them here: A,B,C… #lrnchat
8:49:53 pm tmiket: @billcush I think that doesn’t help re: HR, Legal etc driving it #lrnchat
8:49:54 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) cause I can’t “test out” of things I know/already do! #Lrnchat
8:49:54 pm JD_Dillon: @LnDDave - But never a BACK button. #lrnchat
8:50:04 pm Quinnovator: q1) because nobody cares except to tick the box #lrnchat
8:50:15 pm jadekaz: Q1) Clip art. Stock photos. Mind numbing MC questions. Slow audio. Corporate language. No relevance. Not even a typo to pick on. #lrnchat
8:50:29 pm tmiket: @LnDDave I wish they just send a PDF of that stuff and a “Yes, I read it” button We all be better off #lrnchat
8:50:38 pm sparkandco: RT @minutebio: Q1) Often compliance training tries to give every1 a PhD on the subject when they need just what is pertinent to job #lrnchat
8:50:39 pm reubentozman: RT @Quinnovator: q1) because nobody cares except to tick the box #Lrnchat
8:50:40 pm denniscallahan: and get reminders @JaneBozarth Nobody likes to hear “you have to”. #lrnchat
8:50:41 pm chris_saeger: Q1) Just saw this today “Learning as punishment-Curbing Wasteful Compliance Training” http://t.co/b3sT07Kh via workforce mag #lrnchat
8:50:55 pm billcush: @janebozarth Even security awareness training can be a little fun right? #lrnchat http://t.co/Z6ORCW5d
8:50:56 pm Dave_Ferguson: @jadekaz You got something against the PowerPoint bean people? #lrnchat
8:51:02 pm weisblatt: Q1) CYA record-keeping of CYA training on CYA policies. #lrnchat
8:51:03 pm tmiket: @jadekaz Don’t forget animated text #lrnchat
8:51:19 pm kelly_smith01: @LnDDave I wish they just send a PDF of that stuff and a “Yes, I read it” button We all be better off #lrnchat <— I read that Tweet
8:51:23 pm DamnDigital: @write2tg If the folks of yester-year focused so much on compliance we wouldn’t have the inovations and creativity we have today #lrnchat
8:51:25 pm write2tg: Q1) Because most compliance training ends up as elearning because it can be tracked easily by an LMS #lrnchat
8:51:27 pm Quinnovator: q1) because all you learn is how to click the next button and duck #lrnchat
8:51:30 pm reubentozman: Q1 compliance training isn’t built for the ‘learner’. It’s built for the auditor #Lrnchat
8:51:32 pm JaneBozarth: @billcush yeah #lrnchat
8:51:33 pm JD_Dillon: @jadekaz - You forgot text-to-speech robotic narration! #lrnchat
8:51:50 pm weisblatt: @chris_saeger ”Learning as Punishment” is the saddest phrase I’ve ever heard. #lrnchat
8:51:53 pm MJK60631: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Why is compliance training so reviled? #lrnchat
8:51:53 pm tmiket: @Dave_Ferguson If you ever see a screen bean..RUN!!!! #lrnchat
8:52:03 pm QBM5: #lrnchat Have a Windows Phone App??? Win cool prizes http://t.co/4TG9UCBm 2649610
8:52:03 pm sparkandco: RT @reubentozman: Q1 compliance training isn’t built for the ‘learner’. It’s built for the auditor #Lrnchat
8:52:12 pm minutebio: RT @reubentozman: Q1 compliance training isnt built for the learner. Its built for the auditor #lrnchat
8:52:20 pm tmiket: @JD_Dillon THAT is the worst of all offenses! Robotic text to voice #lrnchat
8:52:21 pm Quinnovator: RT @reubentozman: Q1 compliance training isn’t built for the ‘learner’. It’s built for the auditor #Lrnchat
8:52:52 pm Quinnovator: q1) because content dump and knowledge test *can’t* lead to meaningful behavior change #lrnchat
8:52:57 pm kelly_smith01: @Dave_Ferguson Bean people. Run for your life. #lrnchat :-o
8:53:01 pm minutebio: Q1) Reviled b/c they took the same boring course last yr and the yr b4 that. #lrnchat
8:53:04 pm LnDDave: q1) because no one ever asks about what you learned; they only ask if you are finished. #lrnchat
8:53:10 pm StephenCHudson: Q1. It’s the one big chance people have to get content in front of everyone, so too much content is included for wrong reasons. #lrnchat
8:53:22 pm coyenator: @DamnDigital hmm, if that which enables disables and vice versa, then compliance leads to innovation and innovation to compliance #lrnchat
8:53:23 pm MJK60631: RT @Quinnovator: RT @reubentozman: Q1 compliance training isn’t built for the ‘learner’. It’s built for the auditor #Lrnchat
8:53:25 pm jadekaz: @JD_Dillon @tmiket You’re making me want to cry. Robotic auto narration and fly in text. What have we done people?! #lrnchat
8:53:34 pm LnDDave: RT @reubentozman: Q1 compliance training isn’t built for the ‘learner’. It’s built for the auditor #Lrnchat
8:53:37 pm weisblatt: @LnDDave I wish they just send a PDF of that stuff > I truly believe that would work with the regulators #lrnchat
8:53:44 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) because it’s often the handbook, word-for-word. And bean people. #Lrnchat
8:53:45 pm kelly_smith01: RT @LnDDave: q1) because no one ever asks about what you learned; they only ask if you are finished. #lrnchat
8:53:47 pm write2tg: RT @LnDDave: q1) because no one ever asks about what you learned; they only ask if you are finished. > So true! #lrnchat
8:53:49 pm learner4eva: RT @LnDDave: q1) because no one ever asks about what you learned; they only ask if you are finished. #lrnchat
8:53:51 pm jadekaz: RT @Quinnovator: RT @reubentozman: Q1 compliance training isnt built for the learner. Its built for the auditor >> EXACTLY#lrnchat
8:53:53 pm coyenator: RT @sparkandco: RT @reubentozman: Q1 compliance training isnt built for the learner. Its built for the auditor #lrnchat
8:53:55 pm jspoke1: Luv it! :-) RT @JaneBozarth: The required length of this chat is 90 minutes. You must stay for the whole thing to get credit.#lrnchat
8:54:01 pm chris_saeger: Q1) astd report $171.5 billion on all L&D in 2010. 10 percent went for compliance and mandatory learning. #lrnchat
8:54:06 pm minutebio: RT @LnDDave: q1) because no one ever asks about what you learned; they only ask if you are finished. | Do U have a certificate? #lrnchat
8:54:13 pm tmiket: @jadekaz @JD_DIllon Hey don’t blame us we’re just “Jazzing it up!” 8-) #lrnchat
8:54:16 pm JD_Dillon: RT @LnDDave: q1) because no one ever asks about what you learned; they only ask if you are finished. #lrnchat
8:54:30 pm AnaCristinaPrts: RT @coyenator: RT @sparkandco: RT @reubentozman: Q1 compliance training isnt built for the learner. Its built for the auditor #lrnchat
8:54:31 pm britz: Q1) compliance training gives training a bad name…which oddly enuff had a bad name already #lrnchat
8:54:34 pm catherine_delia: I want to listen in on #lrnchat but am also trying to pack & get ready for a trip. Ack!
8:54:43 pm billcush: @tmiket agreed…but is training helping? Maybe not. #lrnchat
8:54:46 pm kelly_smith01: RT @britz: Q1) compliance training gives training a bad name…which oddly enuff had a bad name already #lrnchat
8:55:03 pm lrnchat: Q2) Is compliance training relevant and necessary? #lrnchat
8:55:25 pm tmiket: @billcush Not if ‘training’ is just taking orders #lrnchat
8:55:25 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is compliance training relevant and necessary? #lrnchat
8:55:29 pm coyenator: @chris_saeger surprised its only 10% for compliance/mandatory training, that’s actually encouraging #lrnchat
8:55:30 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is compliance training relevant and necessary? #lrnchat
8:55:31 pm tmiket: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is compliance training relevant and necessary? #lrnchat
8:55:39 pm write2tg: RT @britz: Q1) compliance training gives training a bad name…which oddly enuff had a bad name already > Especially to elearning #lrnchat
8:55:41 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is compliance training relevant and necessary? #Lrnchat
8:55:43 pm Dave_Ferguson: Keep in mind that senior mgmt is compliant in inflicting compliance training on the masses. Can’t/won’t see alternatives.#lrnchat
8:55:48 pm kelly_smith01: If a tree falls in the woods an no one is there must the tree be compliant and make a sound? #lrnchat
8:55:49 pm weisblatt: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is compliance training relevant and necessary? #lrnchat
8:55:52 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) Compliance training CONTENT = yes; specific, check in the box offerings = no #lrnchat
8:55:57 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is compliance training relevant and necessary? #lrnchat
8:56:00 pm tmiket: Q2 Compliance training often a legal requirement #lrnchat
8:56:00 pm MJK60631: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is compliance training relevant and necessary? #lrnchat
8:56:01 pm write2tg: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is compliance training relevant and necessary? #lrnchat
8:56:02 pm jadekaz: RT @catherine_delia: I want to listen in but am also trying to pack & get ready for a trip. >> And that’s how compliance is taken!#lrnchat
8:56:04 pm DamnDigital: RT @lnddave: q1) because no one ever asks about what you learned; they only ask if you are finished. #lrnchat
8:56:11 pm kelly_smith01: RT @TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is compliance training relevant and necessary? #Lrnchat
8:56:14 pm learner4eva: Q2) In some cases, yes. Is dry delivery a requirement? No. #lrnchat
8:56:31 pm Quinnovator: q2) well, I *do* want my financial advisers to work ethically, but I’d like them to learn what it means *in action*! #lrnchat
8:56:32 pm weisblatt: Q2) Compliance communication is necessary…not sure about training. #lrnchat
8:56:40 pm Dave_Ferguson: Q2: some fields / some areas have mandatory training imposed from outside. Ability to change goes outside the org.#lrnchat
8:56:48 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) It’s valuable knowledge that should be framed within the context of the role, not the legal requirements. #lrnchat
8:56:48 pm billcush: @tmiket Touche! #lrnchat
8:56:56 pm minutebio: Q2) In Health Care understanding such things as HIPAA IS relevant, but it needs to b taught effectively & not just a checkbx#lrnchat
8:56:59 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is compliance training relevant and necessary? #lrnchat
8:57:02 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) would be great if applicable section popped up as needed (ie told off colour joke). Then relevance achieved. #Lrnchat
8:57:03 pm LnDDave: Q2) Is compliance relevant and necessary? Yes. Unfortunately compliance training has little to do with actual compliance.#lrnchat
8:57:09 pm JimLundy: @Quinnovator agree. Still too much teach then test. #lrnchat
8:57:18 pm britz: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is compliance training relevant and necessary? #lrnchat
8:57:26 pm coyenator: Q2 Compliance training may be necessary, the challenge is to make it relevant #lrnchat
8:57:31 pm learner4eva: RT @JD_Dillon: Q2) Its valuable knowledge that should be framed within the context of the role, not the legal requirements.#lrnchat
8:57:33 pm McCulleyCuppan: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @kelly_smith01: You can not leave #lrnchat or get your certificate of completion until you complete eval form. #lrnchat
8:57:34 pm Quinnovator: q2) if it’s about behavior change to comply with legal requirements, it’s necessary. If it’s about CYA, no! #lrnchat
8:57:35 pm DamnDigital: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is compliance training relevant and necessary? #lrnchat
8:57:36 pm chris_saeger: Q2) validating skills may be relevant. training should be based on a gap in the skill validation. #lrnchat
8:57:44 pm urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is compliance training relevant and necessary? #lrnchat
8:57:46 pm write2tg: Q2) Compliant training is relevant & necessary to sensitize people & demonstrate consequences – all in a risk-free environment#lrnchat
8:57:47 pm tmiket: Q2 If truly req’d and no expectation of behavior change shouldn’t we just do the least possible and be done with it? #lrnchat
8:57:59 pm denniscallahan: Q2) it’s necessary if you work in a regulated industry #lrnchat
8:58:09 pm weisblatt: Q2) Access to compliance information is necessary. #lrnchat
8:58:32 pm DamnDigital: THANK YOU! RT @chris_saeger: Q2) validating skills may be relevant. training should be based on a gap in the skill validation. #lrnchat
8:58:35 pm Quinnovator: q2) may need assistance to recognize *and* work in coherence w/ requirements, but knowledge dump/test isn’t answer#lrnchat
8:58:36 pm jadekaz: Q2) I’ve actually been interested/hopeful about a few compliance topics. Then I read page 1….by page 5…glossy eyes settled in#lrnchat
8:58:37 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q2 compliance training is necessary but it’s mostly irrelevant .. esp the ones where you read, click, rinse/repeat
8:58:38 pm billcush: Q2) Taking the legal thing out of it…I think it is relevant. depending on the biz, the topic can help people serve customers, etc#lrnchat
8:58:38 pm kelly_smith01: Compliance is necessary but compliance training in not necessarily necessary. #lrnchat
8:58:39 pm weisblatt: RT @tmiket: Q2 If truly reqd and no expectation of behavior change shouldnt we just do the least possible and be done with it?=YUP #lrnchat
8:58:44 pm Dave_Ferguson: @tmiket Least possible & be done is pretty much a description for the majority of compliance training. #lrnchat
8:59:03 pm reubentozman: RT @Quinnovator: q2) well,I *do* want my financial advisers to work ethically, but Id like them to learn what it means *in action*! #Lrnchat
8:59:04 pm MJK60631: Q2) The transfer of information is necessary. I object to the words “compliance” and “training” used in tandem. #lrnchat
8:59:09 pm britz: Q2) is compliance training relevant & necessary? Absolutely!…says Director of HR. #lrnchat
8:59:18 pm chris_saeger: RT @kelly_smith01: Compliance is necessary but compliance training in not necessarily necessary. <agreed! #lrnchat
8:59:28 pm LnDDave: q2) the only lesson I see learned from online compliance training is how to shortcut online compliance training. #lrnchat
8:59:36 pm Dave_Ferguson: I like the notion of taking the legal stuff out, but that’s like hoping for a jolly Severus Snape. #lrnchat
8:59:46 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) Yes. I don’t want to be sued. #lrnchat
8:59:50 pm write2tg: Q2) Training can help people ‘live’ the consequences of non-compliance. So, yes compliance training is necessary. #lrnchat
8:59:54 pm tmiket: @Dave_Ferguson Oh I wish! I’ve sat thru too many 1hr+ courses with about 10 minuts of info in them #lrnchat
8:59:59 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Dave_Ferguson: I like the notion of taking the legal stuff out, but that’s like hoping for a jolly Severus Snape. #lrnchat
9:00:00 pm audioswhite: business by rote “@Quinnovator: RT @reubentozman: Q1 compliance training isn’t built for the ‘learner’. It’s built for the auditor #Lrnchat”
9:00:03 pm coyenator: @minutebio yes, health care and HIPPA is a good example of necessary, how to design so its relevant to participants #lrnchat
9:00:11 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q2 given the slew (plethora?) of bad things that bring about regulation you’d think training would be more compelling
9:00:11 pm tmiket: RT @LnDDave: q2) the only lesson I see learned from online compliance training is how to shortcut online compliance training.#lrnchat
9:00:25 pm billcush: Q2) There are many compliance topics in the investment biz about how to treat investors & recommend investments. That is useful. #lrnchat
9:00:27 pm Quinnovator: RT @learner4eva: Q2) In some cases, yes. Is dry delivery a requirement? No. #lrnchat
9:00:28 pm tmiket: @LnDDave Yes, it’s self-defense! 8-) #lrnchat
9:00:30 pm Dave_Ferguson: @tmiket That was the least, buddy. #lrnchat
9:00:33 pm minutebio: Q2) Have seen the most relevant compliance info is taught / discussed among staff – More so than taken away frm course#lrnchat
9:00:33 pm NoOneAround: RT @kelly_smith01 If a tree falls in the woods an no one is there must the tree be compliant and make a sound? #lrnchat
9:00:35 pm weisblatt: Q2) FDA regs are meant to keep patients safe. I’m all for that. But defining knowing how to keep people safe is the problem.#lrnchat
9:00:35 pm LnDDave: RT @JD_Dillon: Q2) Yes. I don’t want to be sued. #lrnchat
9:01:00 pm jadekaz: Q2) Required that you know what to do and can act != having to read about it to prove it. I’d rather take a test! Then fill in gaps#lrnchat
9:01:02 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) Yes. I want to stay in business. #lrnchat
9:01:10 pm billcush: @lnddave Next. Next. Next. Submit. #lrnchat
9:01:13 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) worked for an org 8 years. Took the EXACT SAME 3 hr WBT ethics course each year. WHY?!?! #Lrnchat
9:01:15 pm Quinnovator: @Dave_Ferguson right, management is afeared of the lawyers, CYA because they don’t know any better #lrnchat
9:01:16 pm tmiket: @Dave_Ferguson 8-) #lrnchat
9:01:18 pm robbartlett: Q2 yes it is helps the org avoid risk.. Risk of contravention of govt law or internal risk #lrnchat
9:01:29 pm Dave_Ferguson: @billcush I’d pay money to sit in the ethics training for the investment banks that represent both sides of crappy deals.#lrnchat
9:01:34 pm write2tg: Read an interesting piece on compliance training and the importance of user-focused design http://t.co/5FSotEGF #lrnchat
9:01:45 pm stipton: @jadekaz perfect example of why blaming the content is a cop out needed to be better developers. #lrnchat
9:01:59 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) Effective processes and communication should limit the need for compliance “training.” #lrnchat
9:01:59 pm kelly_smith01: I on-line compliance training at the very very last possible second before I am arrested & thrown in jail. #lrnchat
9:02:12 pm MMTingley: Late to #lrnchat. I see we’re plotting to do away with compliance training ;)  #lrnchat
9:02:22 pm Dave_Ferguson: @Quinnovator Mgmt is afeared of lawyers because they feed their own lawyers raw meat & figure the other guys do, too.#lrnchat
9:02:29 pm write2tg: Q2) Compliance training needs to be incremental. It needs to build on the knowledge and skills people already have. #lrnchat
9:02:33 pm EdutainmentM: Q2) unfortunately, some is necessary; so give the learner a WIIFM; comedy helps; we did some funny stuff around environmental #lrnchat #sdle
9:03:02 pm cammybean: Checking in now — as bedtime compliance officer I’m not doing so well tonight… #lrnchat
9:03:07 pm Dave_Ferguson: @MMTingley Doing away w/ compliance training comes right after death of the book and people talking on phone while driving. #lrnchat
9:03:12 pm Quinnovator: RT @MMTingley: Late to #lrnchat. I see we’re plotting to do away with compliance training ;)  #lrnchat < if only! or at least improve
9:03:16 pm kelly_smith01: I take on-line compliance training at the very last possible second before I am arrested & thrown in jail. #lrnchat <-Compliant tweet
9:03:36 pm jadekaz: @stipton No kidding. Can I least get a branching scenario? It doesn’t need to be a flight simulator. #lrnchat
9:03:38 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) If there weren’t compliance training ILTs, would employees ever meet the company lawyers? #lrnchat
9:03:45 pm cammybean: Q2) compliance “training” is a complete misnomer…it’s usually compliance checkboxes written by the dreaded CBT Lady.#lrnchat
9:03:48 pm write2tg: Q2) We call it compliance ‘training’ but it’s all about communication and sensitization. It’s about how behavior effects business.#lrnchat
9:03:49 pm kelly_smith01: RT @cammybean: Checking in now — as bedtime compliance officer I’m not doing so well tonight… #lrnchat
9:03:50 pm billcush: Q2) I think the problem w/ compliance training could be solved with a thorough Kirkpatrick Level 4 evaluation. #lrnchat
9:03:57 pm catherine_delia: There are consequences to orgs if they don’t comply w/ regs. It’s relevant, just how u get it across that makes a diff#lrnchat
9:03:58 pm minutebio: Q2) Compliance training is very relevant to those who think they just committed a violation. Then they want 2 look closer at it#lrnchat
9:04:00 pm LnDDave: q2) I learn more from water cooler conversations about non-compliance than I do from compliance training. #lrnchat
9:04:04 pm Quinnovator: q2) compliance training is a game: they pretend it matters, we pretend to learn from it, gov’t pretends it’s ok #lrnchat
9:04:18 pm weisblatt: RT @cammybean: Checking in now — as bedtime compliance officer > first u need to view the going to bed properly eLearning#lrnchat
9:04:32 pm write2tg: RT @LnDDave: q2) I learn more from water cooler conversations about non-compliance than I do from compliance training.#lrnchat
9:04:34 pm billcush: @dave_ferguson Please send payment to my paypal account… I’ll get you right in there. #lrnchat
9:04:36 pm write2tg: RT @Quinnovator: q2) compliance training is a game: they pretend it matters, we pretend to learn from it, govt pretends its ok#lrnchat
9:04:44 pm jadekaz: RT @Quinnovator: q2) compliance training is a game: they pretend it matters, we pretend to learn from it, govt pretends its ok#lrnchat
9:04:45 pm tmiket: RT @Quinnovator: q2) compliance training is a game: they pretend it matters, we pretend to learn from it, gov’t pretends it’s ok#lrnchat
9:04:47 pm MJK60631: Q2) Something about compliance training that feels like indoctrination. In need of an image overhaul. #lrnchat
9:04:51 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q2 depends on the audience LEOs (law enforcement officer) needs TONS of detail on dry legalese
9:05:01 pm weisblatt: @billcush Kirkpatrick 4: That’s the problem. No one knows what the desired outcome is. #lrnchat
9:05:03 pm Quinnovator: RT @billcush: Q2) the problem w/ compliance training could be solved with thorough Kirkpatrick Level 4 eval #lrnchat < maybe, but *drink*
9:05:05 pm cammybean: Q2) When pressed, most clients admit it’s a checkbox they’re ticking and not a behavior they’re really trying to change…#lrnchat
9:05:10 pm EdutainmentM: @jadekaz @stipton #lrnchat Scenario-based, done right, would at least provide a WIIFM #sdl #sdle
9:05:11 pm robbartlett: @Quinnovator we need tohelp the lawyers see why compliance training doesn’t work #lrnchat
9:05:27 pm cammybean: @weisblatt Yeah, I think I missed that elearning… #lrnchat
9:05:34 pm LnDDave: it’s never a good sign when the first – and only – question about compliance training vendors is “Which one is cheapest?”#lrnchat
9:05:44 pm minutebio: Q2) Often good compliance training teaches us how to protect our customers/patients. Not just save our own behinds. #lrnchat
9:05:44 pm weisblatt: RT @write2tg: RT @Quinnovator compliance training is a game they pretend it matters we pretend to learn govt pretends its ok#lrnchat
9:05:46 pm Quinnovator: @robbartlett but they don’t care, they just want to be legally safe #lrnchat
9:05:56 pm billcush: @weisblatt Yes we do…the desired outcome is *Compliance.* #lrnchat
9:06:04 pm LnDDave: RT @Quinnovator: q2) compliance training is a game: they pretend it matters, we pretend to learn from it, gov’t pretends it’s ok#lrnchat
9:06:06 pm cammybean: This is depressing, people. What should we do differently about compliance? #lrnchat
9:06:12 pm Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: never a good sign when first – and only – question about compliance training vendors is “Which one is cheapest?” #lrnchat
9:06:13 pm Dave_Ferguson: I dunno about the Level 4… Don K would come with his overhead projector. #lrnchat
9:06:19 pm JD_Dillon: @LnDDave Don’t forget “which one has the most generic content?” #lrnchat
9:06:31 pm Quinnovator: RT @robbartlett: @Quinnovator we need tohelp the lawyers see why compliance training doesn’t work #lrnchat < or management
9:06:42 pm reubentozman: Q2 “necessary” will be more meaningful for different people at different times. #Lrnchat
9:06:43 pm jadekaz: @cammybean Tru dat. The author and programmer probably laugh-cry the whole time, too. No fun for anyone. Even the LMS hates it. #lrnchat
9:06:45 pm minutebio: Q2) Can I skip to the test now :)  #lrnchat
9:06:51 pm kelly_smith01: RT @minutebio: Q2) …good compliance training teaches us how to protect our customers/patients. Not just save our own behinds. #lrnchat
9:06:53 pm LnDDave: RT @cammybean: This is depressing, people. What should we do differently about compliance? #lrnchat
9:07:04 pm MMTingley: RT @cammybean: Q2) most clients admit its a checkbox theyre ticking & not behavior theyre trying to change… #lrnchat
9:07:04 pm weisblatt: RT @billcush: @weisblatt Yes we do…the desired outcome is Compliance.> OK ask anybody to define it! #lrnchat
9:07:13 pm Dave_Ferguson: “Which one is over soonest? Better throughput.” #lrnchat
9:07:25 pm JD_Dillon: @minutebio - There’s more than a test? I must have missed something. #lrnchat
9:07:30 pm TriciaRansom: Since compliance training is mandatory, yet so many ppl are non-compliant, should we write a CBT on complying compliance? #Lrnchat
9:07:33 pm chris_saeger: MT @Quinnovator: q2) training is a game: everyone pretends <-whoops then it goes boom because an impt. skill was not learned #lrnchat
9:07:42 pm Dave_Ferguson: @jadekaz Ah, another reason FOR compliance training: punish the LMS. #lrnchat
9:07:50 pm stipton: @EdutainmentM agreed some is necessary but the key is not WIIFM its answering the “So What” question #lrnchat
9:07:58 pm audioswhite: Q2) yes compliance is necessary and relevant, how training and learning opps are developed – not so much. A biz issue#lrnchat
9:08:09 pm write2tg: Q2) Compliance training has to be a cognitive activity where we exercise our brain & not our fingers while clicking next! #lrnchat
9:08:13 pm Quinnovator: q2) if alternatives to right answer on the quiz are nonsensical so you don’t even need the material, it’s a waste #lrnchat
9:08:26 pm reubentozman: RT @cammybean: This is depressing, people.What should we do differently about compliance? Same thing we do with other shitty trning #Lrnchat
9:08:36 pm coyenator: @Quinnovator maybe compliance training does work for lawyers b/c when it fails… someone calls a lawyer, sigh #lrnchat
9:08:42 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) The answer is ‘C.” #lrnchat
9:08:43 pm tmiket: @Dave_Ferguson Punish the LMS? Where do I sign up? #lrnchat
9:08:46 pm MJK60631: Can’t speak for other orgs, but our our compliance training comes by way of Legal. Perhaps better served in the hands of Learning? #lrnchat
9:08:48 pm LnDDave: It hurts our industry that when many people think about ‘eLearning’ they think of crappy compliance training shovelware.#lrnchat
9:08:57 pm Quinnovator: RT @write2tg: Q2) Compliance training has to be a cognitive activity where we exercise our brain #lrnchat < and lead to real change/ability
9:09:09 pm minutebio: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @jadekaz Ah, another reason FOR compliance training: punish the LMS. | Wow, no need for LMS w/out compliance #lrnchat
9:09:13 pm billcush: @weisblatt I did ask…and they said, “Stop asking questions, and comply or else.” #lrnchat
9:09:39 pm minutebio: RT @LnDDave: hurts our industry when many people think about eLearning they think of crappy compliance training shovelware| YES #lrnchat
9:09:52 pm britz: blood born pathogens, HIPPA, harassment… oh my! #lrnchat
9:10:00 pm write2tg: Q2) Do we always need an elearning course to learn to ‘comply’? Stories, conversations, videos, debates etc go a longer way#lrnchat
9:10:02 pm Dave_Ferguson: @MJK60631 I have to admit, when someone says “here’s a notice from legal,” things don’t usually trend upward.#lrnchat
9:10:02 pm lrnchat: Q3) What would a meaningful compliance development program look like? #lrnchat
9:10:03 pm stipton: @jadekaz aint that the truth. Let the learner think a bit. Yeesh. #lrnchat
9:10:04 pm statweestics: #lrnchat is getting popular, +1000% the last hour : http://t.co/dUAMEJ4d
9:10:07 pm LnDDave: @reubentozman it’s a business decision: we know it’s not going to make a difference, but we have to do it. Go buy some cheap crap. #lrnchat
9:10:09 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What would a meaningful compliance development program look like? #lrnchat
9:10:10 pm tmiket: @minutebio Exactly @Dave_Ferguson @jadekaz #lrnchat
9:10:18 pm jadekaz: You know who probably has best chance of preventing it? Controllers dept. Accountants vs Lawyers in the ring. #lrnchat
9:10:21 pm JD_Dillon: @britz You forgot email security! #lrnchat
9:10:27 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What would a meaningful compliance development program look like? #lrnchat
9:10:30 pm write2tg: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What would a meaningful compliance development program look like? #lrnchat
9:10:36 pm kelly_smith01: I like the idea of a Goofus and Gallant (old Highlights kids magazine) scenario approach to compliance training. #lrnchat
9:10:38 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What would a meaningful compliance development program look like? #lrnchat
9:10:44 pm kelly_smith01: RT @write2tg: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What would a meaningful compliance development program look like? #lrnchat
9:10:47 pm JD_Dillon: Q3) It would be invisible, integrated into natural learning on the job. #lrnchat
9:10:53 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What would a meaningful compliance development program look like? #Lrnchat
9:10:54 pm Dave_Ferguson: @LnDDave People think (shovelware) because their real-world experience has TAUGHT them that. Ask @cammybean, the CBT lady. #lrnchat
9:10:54 pm catherine_delia: Scenarios, vignettes, humor. RT @cammybean: This is depressing, people. What should we do differently about compliance? #lrnchat
9:10:59 pm coyenator: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What would a meaningful compliance development program look like? #lrnchat
9:11:00 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JD_Dillon: Q3) It would be invisible, integrated into natural learning on the job. #lrnchat
9:11:01 pm Quinnovator: q3) engage viscerally, provide concept framework, examples pro/con, meaningful practice, and support for change (er, good design) #lrnchat
9:11:07 pm tmiket: RT @billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What would a meaningful compliance development program look like? #lrnchat
9:11:07 pm britz: RT @JD_Dillon: @britz You forgot email security! / OH MY! #lrnchat
9:11:17 pm TriciaRansom: RT @JD_Dillon: Q3) It would be invisible, integrated into natural learning on the job. #Lrnchat
9:11:18 pm Quinnovator: q3) or just have a good bloody job aid #lrnchat
9:11:32 pm JD_Dillon: Q3) My last compliance training program looked like Pee Wee’s Playhouse … not kidding! #lrnchat
9:11:34 pm MMTingley: Q3) Most likely NOT eLearning. #lrnchat
9:11:39 pm StephenCHudson: Q3 – a relevant compliance program would focus on relevant, actionable content rather than a legal rule dump.#lrnchat
9:11:41 pm write2tg: Q3) A good compliance training needs to be Emotional (to make me feel) & Engaging ( to make me think and do) #lrnchat
9:11:50 pm MJK60631: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @MJK60631 I have to admit, when someone says “here’s a notice from legal,” things don’t usually trend upward. #lrnchat
9:11:51 pm weisblatt: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What would a meaningful compliance development program look like? #lrnchat
9:11:51 pm urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What would a meaningful compliance development program look like? #lrnchat
9:11:52 pm stipton: RT @Quinnovator: q3) or just have a good bloody job aid #lrnchat < long live the job aid!
9:11:58 pm lrnchat: Speaking of compliance. @Kemibe @jmass @dropthepencil @ExpertusONE @AmberandGreene pls join #lrnchat asap! We’re holding your chat for you.
9:12:06 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: q3) or just have a good bloody job aid #lrnchat …Yes think of Gawande and Checklist Manifesto
9:12:11 pm billcush: Q3) Meaningful compliance training would include applying some new skill to a job of some sort. Help a customer in some way?#lrnchat
9:12:12 pm audioswhite: @cammybean i find the same but have some clients who look to improve & advance their business. They want more than checkboxes #lrnchat
9:12:12 pm jadekaz: Because we all know how much training costs – to designers, learners, managers, reporting team. Compliance training is $$$$$#lrnchat
9:12:13 pm Dave_Ferguson: Most alternatives to current compliance training appear to decision-makers as taking longer, costing more. d #lrnchat
9:12:15 pm LnDDave: realistically, should business put it’s $ towards a non-revenue generating topic like compliance when shovelware checks the box? #lrnchat
9:12:15 pm MJK60631: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What would a meaningful compliance development program look like? #lrnchat
9:12:17 pm Quinnovator: @JD_Dillon hopefully not just tarted up, but with meaningful alignment of theme, real pratice #lrnchat
9:12:18 pm tmiket: Q3 It would be relevant, concise & memorable #lrnchat
9:12:28 pm Quinnovator: RT @tmiket: Q3 It would be relevant, concise & memorable #lrnchat < hear hear
9:12:32 pm coyenator: RT @write2tg: Q3) A good compliance training needs to be Emotional (to make me feel) & Engaging ( to make me think and do) #lrnchat
9:12:35 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What would a meaningful compliance development program look like? #lrnchat
9:12:41 pm JD_Dillon: Q3) It would be supported by reference materials that are easily accessed on the job. #lrnchat
9:12:54 pm weisblatt: Q3) Attended best mutual respect class ever: respectful of participants’ intelligence. #lrnchat
9:12:54 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) a chance for me to play out a scenario that actually happened to my org, not Acme Widgets. #Lrnchat
9:12:58 pm britz: Q3) development program? … having that thought alone has potential over the one-n-done events we see today #lrnchat
9:13:00 pm Dave_Ferguson: I am not especially convinced that most senior decision-makers see any value prop in changing. Take longer, spend more, for CYA. #lrnchat
9:13:01 pm minutebio: RT @Quinnovator: RT @tmiket: Q3 It would be relevant, concise & memorable #lrnchat < hear hear #lrnchat
9:13:11 pm NixTheNext: I’m quite late, but hello everybody! Becky, eLearning Dev’er from Chitown joining the late #lrnchat
9:13:23 pm billcush: Q3) Perhaps, I could demonstrate improved safety?That’s meaningful, right? #lrnchat
9:13:36 pm coyenator: RT @Quinnovator: RT @tmiket: Q3 It would be relevant, concise & memorable #lrnchat < hear hear #lrnchat
9:13:39 pm learner4eva: Q3) demonstrate the value, tell what they need to know, set how it will be measured/followed-up on on the job #lrnchat
9:13:53 pm JustStormy: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What would a meaningful compliance development program look like? #lrnchat
9:14:02 pm Quinnovator: RT @Dave_Ferguson: alternatives appear as taking longer, costing more #lrnchat < but bad design doesn’t take longerhttp://t.co/4MF1pS1k
9:14:10 pm write2tg: Q3) A good compliance training design should allow for quickly incorporation and dissemination of regulatory updates. #lrnchat
9:14:10 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) Just to second my previous note Checklist Manifesto (Gawande) had potential examples of compliance job aids.#lrnchat
9:14:11 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q3 a meaningful compliance program would address gaps, anticipate new regulations and be based on reality
9:14:13 pm stipton: .@minutebio That’s because it’s about the CYA w/ senior leaders, HR, Legal, etc have scared the crap out of them. #lrnchat
9:14:16 pm MMTingley: That’s what needs to happen. RT @weisblatt: Q3) Attended best mutual respect class … #lrnchat
9:14:19 pm tmiket: @britz Agreed..a campaign approach over an annual event #lrnchat
9:14:28 pm jadekaz: RT @stipton: RT @Quinnovator: q3) or just have a good bloody job aid #lrnchat < long live the job aid! >> here here #lrnchat
9:14:35 pm minutebio: Q3) Staff would leave the training confident that they would know what to do if ____ happens. #lrnchat
9:14:40 pm LnDDave: q3) ask your stakeholders. Whether we like it or not, check-box training may be as meaningful as the organization wants.#lrnchat
9:14:46 pm chris_saeger: Q3) it would start with a meaningful needs assessment with the regulatory stakeholders, lawyers, etc. #lrnchat
9:14:59 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) have it be ongoing, not just yearly event #Lrnchat
9:15:05 pm Dave_Ferguson: @Quinnovator That’s my point: status quo is cheap. C-levels do not see any payoff in spending more for box-ticking.#lrnchat
9:15:10 pm tmiket: How much of compliance training is online vs ILT? Our is 100% online #lrnchat
9:15:10 pm jadekaz: Q3) It would start with a business problem other than “we might get sued” #lrnchat
9:15:14 pm weisblatt: Q3) A Prezi where you dive into the company’s workflow, find regulated tasks u do, view diagram of process and sign off.#lrnchat
9:15:16 pm robbartlett: “@Quinnovator: q3) or just have a good bloody job aid #lrnchat” good advice in any situation
9:15:25 pm cammybean: How do non-US countries handle “compliance training”? #lrnchat
9:15:27 pm MMTingley: Q3) So much compliance training came about because someone behaved badly. Need honest conversations about ethics!#lrnchat
9:15:27 pm Quinnovator: q3) would be assessed by demonstrated ability to perform, not time #lrnchat
9:15:34 pm LnDDave: RT @tmiket: @britz Agreed..a campaign approach over an annual event #lrnchat
9:15:41 pm Quinnovator: RT @MMTingley: Q3) So much compliance training came about because someone behaved badly. Need honest conversations about ethics! #lrnchat
9:15:41 pm write2tg: Q3) Good compliance training should help me understand that compliance is about a chain of events. Everyone is responsible#lrnchat
9:15:46 pm JustStormy: #lrnchat meaningful, unintrusive reports and learners who actually have achieved the learning outcomes and can repeat them naturally
9:15:48 pm btopro: Q3) #lrnchat 1st policy interpretation ahead of time, then action plan w/ example implementation in existing area, then meeting to talk thro
9:16:01 pm learner4eva: @tmiket 100% online as well #lrnchat
9:16:02 pm JD_Dillon: @minutebio - And if they don’t know what to do, they know where to look for the answer. #lrnchat
9:16:03 pm cammybean: Compliance training usually doesn’t have very much to do with learning, does it? #lrnchat
9:16:16 pm jadekaz: Q3) There would be an actual knowledge or skills gap related to performance. #lrnchat
9:16:19 pm JustStormy: RT @btopro: Q3) #lrnchat 1st policy interpretation ahead of time, then action plan w/ example implementation in existing area, then meeting to talk thro
9:16:23 pm britz: Q3) Make it real learning which is experience, practice, reflection, & conversation nothing more, nothing less HT @charlesjennings#lrnchat
9:16:32 pm billcush: Where are you? RT @lrnchat: Speaking of compliance. @Kemibe @jmass @dropthepencil @ExpertusONE @AmberandGreenepls join #lrnchat asap!
9:16:34 pm stipton: Example – we had someone fall off a ladder, so suddenly everyone had to “take Ladder Training” right now. #lrnchat #killmenow
9:16:37 pm chris_saeger: RT @Quinnovator: q3) would be assessed by demonstrated ability to perform, not time. <this is what the regulators need to learn #lrnchat
9:16:49 pm LnDDave: RT @cammybean: How do non-US countries handle “compliance training”? #lrnchat
9:16:50 pm pattishank: RT @cammybean: Compliance training usually doesn’t have very much to do with learning, does it? #lrnchat
9:16:56 pm tmiket: Q3 It would also faciliate conversations and provide contacts for answering questions in the grey areas #lrnchat
9:16:59 pm JustStormy: good point “@cammybean: Compliance training usually doesn’t have very much to do with learning, does it? #lrnchat”
9:17:19 pm TriciaRansom: How many of us have ever had ILT compliance training? #Lrnchat
9:17:20 pm Dave_Ferguson: @cammybean We haven’t really defined it, but to me, compliance training boils down to You Gotta Do X and You Can’t Do Y. #lrnchat
9:17:30 pm write2tg: Q3) Good compliance training is not a one-fit-all approach. It needs to be specific to roles and responsibilities #lrnchat
9:17:32 pm tmiket: RT @pattishank: RT @cammybean: Compliance training usually doesn’t have very much to do with learning, does it? #lrnchat
9:17:35 pm Dave_Ferguson: …the rest, as Hillel said, is commentary. #lrnchat
9:17:36 pm kelly_smith01: How about a game? The Compliance Squares, Compliant Jeopardy, …#lrnchat
9:18:04 pm Dave_Ferguson: @TriciaRansom I have, often. It’s also common in factory/production settings; not everyone has a computer. #lrnchat
9:18:06 pm learner4eva: Q3) it also lacks the critical before and after reinforcements from leaders #lrnchat
9:18:17 pm JustStormy: @kelly_smith01 LOL #lrnchat ”This is Compliance training!!!!!”
9:18:17 pm Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: How about a game? The Compliance Squares, Compliant Jeopardy, …#lrnchat < kill me now
9:18:29 pm jadekaz: RT @cammybean: Compliance training usually doesnt have much to do with learning, does it? >> Learning to drink kool aid, that’s it #lrnchat
9:18:38 pm Quinnovator: @JD_Dillon scenarios FTW #lrnchat
9:19:01 pm TriciaRansom: Notice how few talk about “compliance learning”? #Lrnchat
9:19:23 pm write2tg: Q3) Leaders pave the way for compliance. Any compliance event has to start at the top. It usually starts at the bottom. #lrnchat
9:19:32 pm kelly_smith01: RT @TriciaRansom: How many of us have ever had ILT compliance training? #Lrnchat Yes – no laughing was allowed.#lrncat
9:19:46 pm jadekaz: RT @TriciaRansom: How many of us have ever had ILT compliance training? >> Me. The person read from a piece of paper.#lrnchat
9:19:48 pm learner4eva: @Dave_Ferguson From your previous experiences, how was it supported before and after? #lrnchat
9:19:50 pm Quinnovator: RT @britz: Q3) real learning is experience, practice, reflection, & conversation nothing more, nothing less HT @charlesjennings #lrnchat
9:20:11 pm OzGrrl09: RT @cammybean: Compliance training usually doesn’t have very much to do with learning, does it? #lrnchat
9:20:14 pm LnDDave: Q3) it’s not up to us to make compliance training meaningful; it’s up to the org to make compliance behavior meaningful.#lrnchat
9:20:20 pm minutebio: Q3) It looks like “CSI: HIPAA Unit” #lrnchat
9:20:26 pm weisblatt: @TriciaRansom ”compliance learning” sounds like an oxymoron for some reason. #lrnchat
9:20:29 pm stipton: This sums it all up about compliance “Training” #fail #lrnchat http://t.co/xPiEIJHc
9:20:39 pm TriciaRansom: I have a feeling that ILT options provide more chance for reflection (ie convos during/after) than CBT #Lrnchat
9:20:40 pm Dave_Ferguson: Notice how eagerly CEOs & such embraced the mandatory compliance of, say, Sarbanes-Oxley. #lrnchat
9:20:50 pm TriciaRansom: RT @LnDDave: Q3) its not up to us to make compliance training meaningful; its up to the org to make compliance behavior meaningful. #Lrnchat
9:20:54 pm JD_Dillon: RT @weisblatt: @TriciaRansom ”compliance learning” sounds like an oxymoron for some reason. #lrnchat
9:20:55 pm Quinnovator: RT @stipton: This sums it all up about compliance “Training” #fail #lrnchat http://t.co/6YcOhlni < epic
9:20:56 pm write2tg: Q3) Compliance training should be about exposing and minimizing points of failure. Scenarios and stories help do that #lrnchat
9:21:06 pm billcush: The compliance training chat is on. We’re missing your expertise. @Kemibe @dropthepencil @ExpertusONE @AmberandGreene@minutebio #lrnchat
9:21:16 pm MJK60631: RT @weisblatt: @TriciaRansom ”compliance learning” sounds like an oxymoron for some reason. #lrnchat
9:21:22 pm stevier: Q3) Just the word alone “compliance” makes me want to run for the hills… #lrnchat
9:21:30 pm kloomis10: @kloomis10 the subject matter is very dry #lrnchat
9:21:36 pm Dave_Ferguson: @learner4eva In my div of GE, the EEO/nondiscrim stuff was pretty good. Msg was we don’t want to put off best possible talent… #lrnchat
9:21:39 pm SavvyOD: RT @TriciaRansom: How many of us have ever had ILT compliance training? #Lrnchat <I’ve lead ILT Compliance trng when worked 4 pharma co.
9:21:40 pm write2tg: An interesting read on innovation in compliance training – another oxymoron? http://t.co/wT3c9Jrm #lrnchat
9:21:49 pm tmiket: @stipton Yup, been there done that felt the pain! #lrnchat
9:21:50 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q3 how to tell they “get it”? Have them make something based on the objectives
9:21:50 pm billcush: Tweet of the night! RT @cammybean: Compliance training usually doesn’t have very much to do with learning, does it? #lrnchat
9:21:51 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: RT @stipton: This sums it all up about compliance “Training” #fail #lrnchat http://t.co/BU0qLzMw < epic
9:22:00 pm minutebio: RT @write2tg: Q3) Compliance training should be about exposing and minimizing points of failure. Scenarios and stories help do that #lrnchat
9:22:19 pm Dave_Ferguson: …much more effective than, say, chimichangas in the cafeteria for Cinqo de Mayo. #lrnchat
9:22:26 pm jadekaz: Funny how 1 small twist changes everything. New hire training and compliance trning – both mandatory. But 1 can’t do job without.#lrnchat
9:22:39 pm billcush: Q3) I really think the word *compliance* kills the whole thing. #lrnchat
9:22:45 pm robbartlett: “@Quinnovator: RT @MMTingley: Q3) So much compliance training came about because someone behaved badly.” or because someone died #lrnchat
9:23:08 pm JustStormy: RT @weisblatt: “We will make sure our people know not to do that awful thing that we are sorry we did.” #lrnchat
9:23:12 pm learner4eva: @SavvyOD How was behavior change measured? #lrnchat
9:23:13 pm kelly_smith01: How to evaluate the effectiveness of compliance training? -> No law suites or inquires from regulatory folks? #lrnchat
9:23:15 pm Dave_Ferguson: @SavvyOD Yes, lots of mandatory stuff in pharma / health / finance / manufacturing. Not everybody’s building iPhone apps #lrnchat
9:23:17 pm SavvyOD: RT @TriciaRansom: How many of us have ever had ILT compliance training? #Lrnchat <And always managed to make it memorable.
9:23:37 pm tcruzteller: Sadly similar in S. Africa “Do X, Dont do Y” from the bottom! RT @cammybean: How do non-US countries handle “compliance training”? #lrnchat
9:23:48 pm jadekaz: I’ve read about “transformational” compliance training on very real/important topics. It can be done. #lrnchat
9:23:52 pm weisblatt: We are not going to stop compliance training. Let’s reduce the disruption to work. #lrnchat
9:24:09 pm britz: RT @Quinnovator RT @stipton: This sums it all up about compliance “Training” #fail #lrnchat http://t.co/0CdNmzcM < epic / KEEPER!#lrnchat
9:24:11 pm robbartlett: RT @jadekaz: I’ve read about “transformational” compliance training on very real/important topics. It can be done. #lrnchat
9:24:18 pm MJK60631: The words “compliance” and “training” need to go. More palatable is “policy” and “education. #lrnchat
9:24:30 pm Quinnovator: @kelly_smith01 recall a driving safety course: very effectively used humor, WHY can’t humor be used? tragic #lrnchat
9:25:02 pm lrnchat: Q4) What keeps us from getting meaningful compliance? #lrnchat
9:25:10 pm stipton: Drivers Ed! RT @Quinnovator: @kelly_smith01 recall a driving safety course: very effectively used humor, WHY can’t humor be used? #lrnchat
9:25:17 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What keeps us from getting meaningful compliance? #lrnchat
9:25:19 pm stipton: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What keeps us from getting meaningful compliance? #lrnchat
9:25:40 pm stevier: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What keeps us from getting meaningful compliance? #lrnchat How about the word? “Compliance?” Can we do better?
9:25:41 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) Inflexible client requirements = full policy text on screen. #lrnchat
9:25:45 pm minutebio: RT @Quinnovator: @kelly_smith01 recall a driving safety course: … WHY cant humor be used? | Have seen it done in healthCare #lrnchat
9:25:48 pm write2tg: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What keeps us from getting meaningful compliance? #lrnchat
9:25:51 pm tmiket: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What keeps us from getting meaningful compliance? #lrnchat
9:25:52 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What keeps us from getting meaningful compliance? #lrnchat
9:25:56 pm Quinnovator: q4) lawyers only caring about liability, management not understanding learning, no one really caring about change #lrnchat
9:26:06 pm weisblatt: Q4) No definition of success. #lrnchat
9:26:16 pm stipton: Q4) We are our own worst enemies. Need to take responsibility for being more creative, innovative, effective #lrnchat
9:26:17 pm weisblatt: Q4) Culture of fear #lrnchat
9:26:17 pm MJK60631: RT @stipton This sums it all up about compliance “Training” #fail #lrnchat http://t.co/ZIL7akKS > Oh. Dear. God.
9:26:32 pm LnDDave: Q3) I just don’t think most orgs want better compliance training; not without hearing “and cheaper” in the same sentence.#lrnchat
9:26:33 pm kelly_smith01: Q4) We can’t do it THAT way we might get in trouble. #lrnchat
9:26:37 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) Unrealistic reporting requirements = prove the employee learned this #lrnchat
9:26:38 pm jadekaz: Problem is couching it in terms “training.” Can’t we call it compliance lit and make it another dept’s problem? Let’s rename!#lrnchat
9:26:38 pm Quinnovator: q4) the incomprehensible prohibitions against scenarios, humor, against ‘hard fun’! #lrnchat
9:26:40 pm robbartlett: Q4 we do it for the moment to check the box and don’t support employees in changing behavior after learning event #lrnchat
9:26:42 pm audioswhite: @LnDDave yes, it is a business/culture thing. Is it Really important to the biz? Then outcomes/behavior is meaningful#lrnchat
9:26:52 pm minutebio: Q4) Compliance officers & lawyers wanting to throw everything in and not wanting a word changed. Need lots of pushback#lrnchat
9:26:58 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What keeps us from getting meaningful compliance? #lrnchat
9:27:00 pm coyenator: Q4 we don’t get compliance b/c the training is often top down, one-size-fits-all and really fits few if any #lrnchat
9:27:00 pm robbartlett: RT @Quinnovator: q4) the incomprehensible prohibitions against scenarios, humor, against ‘hard fun’! #lrnchat
9:27:05 pm write2tg: Q4) What keeps us from getting meaningful compliance? > Unclear goals, information overload, no measurement of learning success #lrnchat
9:27:06 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What keeps us from getting meaningful compliance? #lrnchat
9:27:19 pm JustStormy: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What keeps us from getting meaningful compliance? #lrnchat
9:27:31 pm SavvyOD: @learner4eva Measured by who followed regulations. If EE didnt, EE was terminated. In FDA reg industry, theres no compromise. #lrnchat
9:27:32 pm kitszle: @Quinnovator Yes, why? Americans seem to be afraid of using humor in training. Afraid of being sued? #lrnchat
9:27:33 pm coyenator: RT @Quinnovator: q4) the incomprehensible prohibitions against scenarios, humor, against hard fun! #truth #lrnchat
9:27:40 pm JustStormy: RT @stevier: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What keeps us from getting meaningful compliance? #lrnchat How about the word? “Compliance?” Can we do better?
9:27:41 pm robbartlett: “@Quinnovator: q4) the incomprehensible prohibitions against scenarios, humor, against ‘hard fun’! #lrnchat” You know my pain!
9:27:45 pm MJK60631: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What keeps us from getting meaningful compliance? #lrnchat
9:27:45 pm tmiket: Q4 Too often involves politicians/bureaucrats dictating it. Big hole right from the start isn’t it? #lrnchat
9:27:49 pm urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What keeps us from getting meaningful compliance? #lrnchat
9:28:02 pm LnDDave: Q4) a lack of need/desire for meaningful compliance training. #lrnchat
9:28:12 pm minutebio: Q4) Asking vendors to do it cheaply or buying off the shelf stuff that applies to every org in the industry #lrnchat
9:28:16 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) Culture. Mngr says “know what training says, BUT…” #Lrnchat
9:28:16 pm LnDDave: RT @Quinnovator: q4) lawyers only caring about liability, management not understanding learning, no one really caring about change #lrnchat
9:28:16 pm JustStormy: Amen. “@tmiket: Q4 Too often involves politicians/bureaucrats dictating it. Big hole right from the start isn’t it? #lrnchat”
9:28:19 pm SavvyOD: MT @Dave_Ferguson: Yes, lots of mandatory stuff in pharma <-Precisely, which is why you have to figure out how to make it work #lrnchat
9:28:27 pm weisblatt: Q4) The FDA leaves it to companies to define compliance who in turn leave it to compliance training groups. Do the math.#lrnchat
9:28:31 pm write2tg: Q4) What keeps us from getting meaningful compliance? > Misconception: There is 1 way to ‘do compliance training’ i.e. elearning #lrnchat
9:28:37 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q4 what keeps us from meaningful compliance? ROI. Compliance is often an after-thought done to, well, comply to an external force.
9:28:42 pm britz: RT @tmiket: Q4 Too often involves politicians/bureaucrats dictating it. Big hole right from the start isnt it? #lrnchat
9:28:55 pm jadekaz: Imagine the backchannel to a compliance training course. Now that would be fun. I bet learner’s would beg to sign up. #lrnchat
9:28:57 pm Quinnovator: @stipton do I have permission to use that image in presentations? Or what would it take? Seriously good! #lrnchat
9:29:00 pm stipton: Q4) We as L&D peeps, need to fight harder for the benefit of the learner in these instances. Don’t point fingers at the content#lrnchat
9:29:11 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) Lack of realistic opportunities to apply the content. How often does X actually happen? #lrnchat
9:29:16 pm kelly_smith01: Sometimes compliance training is put off to the last second or/and completion demanded by a manager/C-level #lrnchat
9:29:30 pm write2tg: Q4) Doing it for the sake of doing it & not really for causing a positive change and actually preventing legal problems! #lrnchat
9:29:32 pm robbartlett: signing out everyone thanks- have to help 4 year old be compliant with bedtime, should build complaince training to help with that #lrnchat
9:29:52 pm stipton: @Quinnovator I won’t tell. #lrnchat It was so funny I had to snag it…knew it would come in handy some day.
9:29:58 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) Misalignment of message and rewards/consequences. Like parents sayin “do as I say, not as I do.” #Lrnchat
9:30:02 pm EdutainmentM: RT @coyenator: Q4 we don’t get compliance b/c the training is often top down, one-size-fits-all and really fits few if any#lrnchat
9:30:04 pm weisblatt: Q4) Doing compliance well will never get anyone promoted. #lrnchat
9:30:04 pm jadekaz: Q4) Can’t get meaningful compliance (aka behavior) if skip right to knowledge solution. No needs analysis. #lrnchat
9:30:32 pm MMTingley: Let’s face it C-level doesn’t want to bother w/compliance either. That’s a problem. #lrnchat
9:30:49 pm MJK60631: RT @LnDDave Q4) a lack of need/desire for meaningful compliance training. #lrnchat > Spot on.
9:30:54 pm kitszle: RT @jadekaz: Q4) Cant get meaningful compliance (aka behavior) if skip right to knowledge solution. No needs analysis. #lrnchat
9:30:56 pm tmiket: @robbartlett We have a very effective job aid for that! Brush teeth, put on jammies, etc 8-) #lrnchat
9:31:03 pm jadekaz: RT @weisblatt: Q4) Doing compliance well will never get anyone promoted. >> Or fired. But not doing compliance, could get fired#lrnchat
9:31:26 pm minutebio: RT @weisblatt: Q4) Doing compliance well will never get anyone promoted. | But may save the org some significant fines#lrnchat
9:31:31 pm Dave_Ferguson: @stipton Not always funny–at least one state mandates 2 hrs of anti-harassment trng for supvs. Online? Gotta take 2 hrs. #lrnchat
9:31:40 pm TriciaRansom: RT @stipton: Q4) We as L&D peeps, need to fight harder for the benefit of the learner. Dont point fingers at the content#Lrnchat
9:31:43 pm stevier: Q4) “Compliance” indicates acceptance of set of rules without context. If there were understanding as to purpose, would we need it? #lrnchat
9:31:44 pm write2tg: Q4) What keeps us from meaningful compliance? > Lack of interest – of everyone involved #lrnchat
9:31:48 pm coyenator: @TriciaRansom great point. Compliance training feels parental, do-as-I-say #lrnchat
9:31:55 pm tmiket: I think an good understanding of what “required” actually means also would help #lrnchat
9:32:09 pm cammybean: “Learning as Punishment” http://t.co/70KDgJZt #lrnchat
9:32:10 pm MMTingley: Q4) Too much of compliance training infantalizes the learner. Big turn-off. #lrnchat
9:32:17 pm Quinnovator: q4) our lack of ability to ‘help educate folks about nuances of good learning: if they don’t know, how can they care? #lrnchat
9:32:23 pm stipton: @Dave_Ferguson Yep very familiar with that law – currently trying to find or develop something that will pass muster. sigh. #lrnchat
9:32:25 pm Dave_Ferguson: Good to try to have best possible compliance trng, but at some level, it’s still “how to floss.” Can only jazz so far. #lrnchat
9:32:47 pm Dave_Ferguson: @MMTingley You could leave “compliance” out of your last remark. #lrnchat
9:33:02 pm JustStormy: @stevier:Compliance indicates acceptance of set of rules w/o context. If there were understanding as to purpose, would we need it? #lrnchat”
9:33:07 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) Lack of emotional connection with the learner. How does this material help ME? WIIFM? #lrnchat
9:33:15 pm Plock2009: #lrnchat q4) compliance. Hate when mom says “eat veggies.” If I grow and cook my veggies – hey now diff story! This training is delicious!
9:33:29 pm Quinnovator: RT @JD_Dillon: Q4) Lack of emotional connection with the learner. How does this material help ME? WIIFM? #lrnchat < true that
9:33:37 pm weisblatt: Make it shorter! I promise the regulators won’t mind. #lrnchat
9:33:46 pm LnDDave: RT @weisblatt: Q4) Doing compliance well will never get anyone promoted. #lrnchat
9:33:55 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JD_Dillon: Q4) Lack of emotional connection with the learner. How does this material help ME? WIIFM? #lrnchat
9:33:56 pm JustStormy: RT @Quinnovator: RT @JD_Dillon: Q4) Lack of emotional connection with the learner. How does this material help ME? WIIFM? #lrnchat < true that
9:34:02 pm jadekaz: Cust: We need compliance. ID: It will cost co this much in time every year. Cust: ok ID: Here’s your job aid. — Best case scenario#lrnchat
9:34:09 pm Dave_Ferguson: @JustStormy In many cases, yes, b/c the rules are imposed from outside the company/org. E.g., HIPAA #lrnchat
9:34:13 pm Quinnovator: q4) measuring the wrong things: time, not performance #lrnchat
9:34:17 pm minutebio: Q4) May want to start with what staff want/need 2 know about compliance. #lrnchat
9:34:23 pm write2tg: I have seen compliance training that is no more than 5 case videos followed by a discussion. > Shorter is indeed better #lrnchat
9:34:32 pm stipton: Q4) Not WIIFM – answer the “So what?” question. That’s what the learner is really asking. #lrnchat
9:34:32 pm Dave_Ferguson: @weisblatt They will if you don’t give supervisors 2 hours of anti-harassment stuff in California. #lrnchat
9:35:04 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) Did a policy change? Tell employees to read it and ask questions! Shift accountability. Give them resources, not PPT.#lrnchat
9:35:18 pm MMTingley: RT @Dave_Ferguson @MMTingley You could leave “compliance” out of your last remark. >> Sad, but true. #lrnchat
9:35:21 pm Quinnovator: RT @stevier: Q4) “Compliance” indicates acceptance of rules without context. If was understanding as to purpose, would we need it? #lrnchat
9:35:26 pm stipton: @Dave_Ferguson @weisblatt hence the picture I posted…. #lrnchat sad state of affairs.
9:35:34 pm lemer6: .@Quinnovator Can we use social media like #Twitter to reach our parents about this? Rather than preach to converted?#parenting #lrnchat
9:35:49 pm write2tg: Q4) Compliance training is all about the E’s > Emotional, Engaging, Enriching #lrnchat
9:35:49 pm billcush: Right. What do we really care about knowing RT @minutebio: Q4) May want to start with what staff want/need 2 know about compliance. #lrnchat
9:36:06 pm tmiket: @JD_Dillon ..and they have to be good valid questions..not crap throw aways ones that are common #lrnchat
9:36:18 pm MJK60631: Compliance training shouldn’t be about carrots and sticks; it’s about developing a well-informed steward of the organization.#lrnchat
9:36:28 pm britz: Q4) lack of concern about value, learners, & how real learning happens by stakeholders keeps us from meaningful compliance training #lrnchat
9:37:01 pm jadekaz: RT @write2tg: Q4) Compliance training is all about the Es > Emotional, Engaging, Enriching >> W/o perf need, still lipstick on pig#lrnchat
9:37:12 pm coyenator: RT @write2tg: Q4) Compliance training is all about the Es > Emotional, Engaging, Enriching (should be) #lrnchat
9:37:17 pm tmiket: @stipton So make it autoplay and launch it before you go to lunch? #lrnchat
9:37:39 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) Responsibility also rests with the greater org. Employees should CARE about doing things correctly, protect the company.#lrnchat
9:37:40 pm weisblatt: Q4) Define expectations and consequences. #lrnchat
9:38:25 pm stipton: @tmiket Brilliant. #lrnchat
9:38:29 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) Training should never have consequences. It must have accountability and remediation. #lrnchat
9:38:52 pm weisblatt: Most compliance training could be explained in one flowchart. #lrnchat
9:38:59 pm write2tg: @jadekaz All good training starts with performance needs. Isn’t that a given when defining ‘training’? :)  #lrnchat
9:39:13 pm Dave_Ferguson: @JD_Dillon I’d be cautious about the “really oughta wanna” angle. Then we’ll get mandatory attitude training. #lrnchat
9:39:18 pm stipton: RT @JD_Dillon: Q4) Trng should never have consequences, must have accountability and remediation. #lrnchat <then what will I do w/my whip?
9:39:29 pm jadekaz: RT @tmiket: @stipton So make it autoplay and launch it b4 you go to lunch? >> I’d say that resembles me, but don’t want pink slip#lrnchat
9:40:02 pm lrnchat: Q5) What would we need to create meaningful, enjoyable and engaging compliance education? #lrnchat
9:40:04 pm LnDDave: FYI… Q4 asked about meaningful compliance, not meaningful compliance training. #lrnchat
9:40:09 pm JD_Dillon: @stipton - Many other options! #lrnchat
9:40:11 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What would we need to create meaningful, enjoyable and engaging compliance education? #lrnchat
9:40:28 pm Dave_Ferguson: @write2tg You’d think so, but often that’s “how a bill becomes law.” #lrnchat
9:40:32 pm write2tg: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What would we need to create meaningful, enjoyable and engaging compliance education? #lrnchat
9:40:37 pm stipton: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What would we need to create meaningful, enjoyable and engaging compliance education? #lrnchat
9:40:38 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What would we need to create meaningful, enjoyable and engaging compliance education? #lrnchat
9:40:42 pm JD_Dillon: Q5) A seat at the table when the rules and related processes are being created. #lrnchat
9:40:43 pm Quinnovator: q5) creating meaningful, enjoyable, and engaging experiences? Or is that begging the question :)  #lrnchat
9:40:45 pm MJK60631: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What would we need to create meaningful, enjoyable and engaging compliance education? #lrnchat
9:40:50 pm weisblatt: RT @LnDDave: FYI… Q4 asked about meaningful compliance, not meaningful compliance training.> I noticed that too. #lrnchat
9:40:52 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What would we need to create meaningful, enjoyable and engaging compliance education? #lrnchat
9:41:05 pm weisblatt: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What would we need to create meaningful, enjoyable and engaging compliance education? #lrnchat
9:41:20 pm learner4eva: Q5) support and heart #lrnchat
9:41:24 pm write2tg: Q5) Think about compliance as a culture – not as a training event. #lrnchat
9:41:25 pm Quinnovator: q5) figure out what matters, put it front and center, and get rid of the rest #lrnchat …or…
9:41:32 pm weisblatt: Q5) Context Context Context #lrnchat
9:41:32 pm LnDDave: Q5) a organizational commitment to really meaningful compliance behavior. #lrnchat
9:41:36 pm jadekaz: @write2tg Depends. Would be nice. But not always the case. I think compliance training exemplifies that. #lrnchat
9:41:39 pm JD_Dillon: Q5) An expectation of personal accountability for all employees to strive for compliant behavior. #lrnchat
9:41:39 pm stipton: Q5) Imagination, fearlessness to tackle the topic and for petes sake stop buying crap it just encourages them. #lrnchat
9:41:39 pm catherine_delia: If we took the temperature of this #lrnchat the patient would be dead. Can we try & say “Yes we can” instead of “Ugh, I give up”?
9:41:48 pm tmiket: @jadekaz @stipton It’s ok we won’t tell anyone! 8-) #metoo #lrnchat
9:42:02 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What would we need to create meaningful, enjoyable and engaging compliance education? #lrnchat
9:42:08 pm urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What would we need to create meaningful, enjoyable and engaging compliance education? #lrnchat
9:42:14 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What would we need to create meaningful, enjoyable and engaging compliance education? #lrnchat
9:42:15 pm weisblatt: Q5) Stories, Connecting the learning to real work. #lrnchat
9:42:18 pm JD_Dillon: Q5) Opportunities for informal discussion and questions regarding compliance topics. #lrnchat
9:42:21 pm LnDDave: RT @Quinnovator: q5) figure out what matters, put it front and center, and get rid of the rest #lrnchat …or…
9:42:21 pm audioswhite: RT @catherine_delia: If we took the temperature of this #lrnchat the patient would be dead. Can we try & say “Yes we can” instead of “Ugh, I give up”?
9:42:25 pm Dave_Ferguson: Q5: first, we need org to have a sane view about practices that are mandatory, and why they are… #lrnchat
9:42:26 pm Quinnovator: q5) give credit to learners for smarts, focus on what needs to be ‘baked in’, and align objectives, practice, and activity to it#lrnchat
9:42:27 pm LnDDave: RT @write2tg: Q5) Think about compliance as a culture – not as a training event. #lrnchat
9:42:31 pm britz: @audioswhite we can try ..But meaningful takes resources – one being time. They hold the purse strings, they hold the project plan#lrnchat
9:42:35 pm JustStormy: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What would we need to create meaningful, enjoyable and engaging compliance education? #lrnchat
9:42:38 pm ActivateLearn: @lrnchat #lrnchat q5) not make it mandatory? Only kidding. Make it fun, engaging, short, and easy to access.
9:42:49 pm kelly_smith01: Q5) Relevant context and humor. #lrnchat
9:42:53 pm lemer6: .@Quinnovator Perhaps many parents don’t even know about the issues of educational transformation being discussed globally#lrnchat
9:43:00 pm Quinnovator: RT @ActivateLearn: q5) not make it mandatory? Only kidding. Make it fun, engaging, short, and easy to access #lrnchat
9:43:02 pm tmiket: @LnDDave Org committment to meaningful behavior period? wouldn’t that be great? #lrnchat
9:43:03 pm minutebio: Q5) License to write the content or rewrite what the lawyers throw at us. Leaders insisting on learning event not checkbox#lrnchat
9:43:06 pm jadekaz: Q5: My bottom line. Only thing to make compliance enjoyable and effective. Culture change. Major culture change. #lrnchat
9:43:10 pm JustStormy: A community, too: “@write2tg: Q5) Think about compliance as a culture – not as a training event. #lrnchat”
9:43:12 pm TriciaRansom: And g’nite all. Going towards 3AM here,and I’ve got a full day. As always THANK YOU for learning and laughs. #Lrnchat
9:43:19 pm Dave_Ferguson: Q5: given sanity in what’s required practice, can then work on is buy-in needed, where, what probs, etc. #lrnchat
9:43:20 pm LnDDave: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Q5: first, we need org to have a sane view about practices that are mandatory, and why they are…#lrnchat
9:43:21 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q5 meaningful, enjoyable, engaging compliance education: make it like American Idol. get students up out of seats for one..
9:43:22 pm minutebio: RT @LnDDave: RT @write2tg: Q5) Think about compliance as a culture – not as a training event. #lrnchat
9:43:25 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Q5: given sanity in what’s required practice, can then work on is buy-in needed, where, what probs, etc. #lrnchat
9:43:26 pm Quinnovator: q5) figure out what a) needs to be learned, b) what can be available in a job aid, and do *nothing* else #lrnchat
9:43:34 pm Plock2009: #lrnchat - Compliance training. When I worked in a factory. “don’t cut off your fingers.” Yelled by the guy with a few missing. Relevant.
9:43:41 pm minutebio: RT @tmiket: @LnDDave Org committment to meaningful behavior period? wouldnt that be great? #lrnchat
9:43:52 pm weisblatt: Q5) “We apologize for disrupting your work with this necessary compliance training. This is why it is important…” #lrnchat
9:43:53 pm JD_Dillon: Q5) Easily-located reference material to back-up all compliance guidelines. #lrnchat
9:43:53 pm tmiket: Q5 Creative & talented #lrnchat designers of course!!!
9:43:55 pm yourlovecoach: RT @Quinnovator: q5) figure out what a) needs to be learned, b) what can be available in a job aid, and do *nothing* else#lrnchat
9:44:12 pm Quinnovator: q5) hook in the emotions: WIIFM, WSIC (Why Should I Care), and then keep the engagement up! #lrnchat
9:44:14 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JD_Dillon: Q5) Easily-located reference material to back-up all compliance guidelines. #lrnchat
9:44:15 pm billcush: Q5) Not this http://t.co/tqGqa7sT #lrnchat
9:44:15 pm JD_Dillon: RT @weisblatt: Q5) “We apologize for disrupting your work with this necessary compliance training. This is why it is important…”#lrnchat
9:44:23 pm LnDDave: q5) a starting point other than “we need to be able to generate a report that shows…” #lrnchat
9:44:26 pm coyenator: Q5 IOW .. What would mandatory compliance training be like if people were beating down the door to be invited? :-)  #lrnchat
9:44:27 pm Sharon_Boller: Q5) How about simulated opps to APPLY the safety stuff that’s part of compliance training? #lrnchat
9:44:28 pm write2tg: Q5) Make compliance a part of every day life of each role holder; not a training that promotes ‘check-box’ mentality once a year#lrnchat
9:44:33 pm jadekaz: Do you think Google has compliance training? Or the company with the “don’t be stupid” SM disclaimer? (who was that?) #lrnchat
9:44:37 pm audioswhite: Q5) try not to just do what has always been done. If culture is rigid, push as far as you can each time. #lrnchat
9:44:49 pm JD_Dillon: Q5) Relevance. I see how this could impact me tomorrow. It’s not what if, it’s when. #lrnchat
9:45:01 pm chris_saeger: Q5) shift thinking from compliance with..to personal responsibility for (safety, quality, whatever the subject is). #lrnchat
9:45:09 pm tmiket: @weisblatt I’m hearing a Walter Cronkite voice opening my next compliance course #lrnchat
9:45:28 pm write2tg: Q5) Support ‘compliance communities’ – foster an environment that promotes approaching people for opinion, when in doubt#lrnchat
9:45:31 pm JD_Dillon: Q5) Effective collaboration between designers and SMEs. Eliminate mandated content or delivery methods. #lrnchat
9:45:38 pm LnDDave: RT @Quinnovator: q5) figure out what a) needs to be learned, b) what can be available in a job aid, and do *nothing* else#lrnchat
9:45:43 pm JustStormy: Nice~! RT@JD_Dillon: It’s not what if, it’s when. #lrnchat
9:45:44 pm minutebio: RT @chris_saeger: Q5) shift thinking from compliance with..to personal responsibility for (safety, quality, ..). #lrnchat
9:45:48 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q5 American Idol compliance training: set lessons to pop. music, karaoke assessments. kidding of course but it has to be immersive
9:45:54 pm tmiket: @audioswhite It’s a find line between pushing limits and banging your head sometimes? #lrnchat
9:46:03 pm weisblatt: RT @tmiket: @weisblatt Im hearing a Walter Cronkite voice opening my next compliance course–or Oprah. #lrnchat
9:46:10 pm billcush: Q5) maybe this http://t.co/Q6iSolJ8 #lrnchat
9:46:11 pm MMTingley: Q5) Corporate culture of Quality, Ethics, Pride. Start w/ those assumptions then just don’t insult learners. #lrnchat
9:46:12 pm ActivateLearn: #lrnchat q5) one of bugbears in our comp is that we have to reenroll into it in LMS. It’s not automatic registration. It’s a pain!
9:46:16 pm JD_Dillon: Q5) If its a cyclical requirement, don’t make me take the same eLearning every year. I remember the answers from last time!#lrnchat
9:46:21 pm Plock2009: RT @weisblatt: Q5) “We apologize for disrupting your work with this necessary compliance training. This is why it is important…” #lrnchat
9:46:27 pm britz: Unfortunately I must bow out. As always, I leave re-charged and ready to continue fighting the good fight! Thx #lrnchat
9:46:27 pm coyenator: RT @chris_saeger: Q5) shift thinking from compliance with..to personal responsibility for (whatever the subject is). #lrnchat
9:46:37 pm Plock2009: RT @Quinnovator: q5) hook in the emotions: WIIFM, WSIC (Why Should I Care), and then keep the engagement up! #lrnchat
9:46:47 pm stipton: @weisblatt @tmiket I like the sound of that. #lrnchat ”Celebrity Compliance”
9:47:15 pm JD_Dillon: Q5) Requests for compliance projects shouldn’t take me away from the work I want to do. It should be included. #lrnchat
9:47:23 pm LnDDave: Q5) bring compliance education right into the workflow, where it happens. #lrnchat
9:47:26 pm Sharon_Boller: @weisblatt Would stories be about what happened when people didn’t comply? Would stories about when people DO comply be compelling? #lrnchat
9:47:28 pm Quinnovator: q5) focus not on ‘what must be learned’, but on ‘what behavior must be seen’ #lrnchat
9:47:28 pm MMTingley: James Earl Jones RT @weisblatt: @tmiket Im hearing a Walter Cronkite voice opening my next compliance course–or Oprah.#lrnchat
9:47:33 pm Plock2009: RT @billcush: Q5) Not this http://t.co/tqGqa7sT #lrnchat
9:47:35 pm Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q5) bring compliance education right into the workflow, where it happens. #lrnchat
9:47:40 pm jadekaz: RT @MMTingley: don’t insult learners. >> THIS. that’s all it would take. perfect. #lrnchat
9:48:00 pm JD_Dillon: RT @LnDDave: Q5) bring compliance education right into the workflow, where it happens. #lrnchat
9:48:03 pm minutebio: RT @Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q5) bring compliance education right into the workflow, where it happens. #lrnchat
9:48:04 pm cammybean: RT @Quinnovator: q5) figure out what a) needs to be learned, b) what can be available in a job aid, and do *nothing* else#lrnchat
9:48:08 pm learner4eva: Thanks for a great chat. I must comply to sleep. Keep the learning going! #lrnchat
9:48:10 pm catherine_delia: Yes. RT @LnDDave: Q5) bring compliance education right into the workflow, where it happens. #lrnchat
9:48:15 pm cammybean: RT @Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q5) bring compliance education right into the workflow, where it happens. #lrnchat
9:48:28 pm Dave_Ferguson: Defense Dept compliance message: see story of Darleen Druyan. http://t.co/2Y12dRc7 #lrnchat
9:48:41 pm JD_Dillon: Q5) Give employees expectations and resources. Let them connect their own dots while remaining open to support. #lrnchat
9:48:53 pm Quinnovator: RT @jadekaz: RT @MMTingley: don’t insult learners. >> THIS. that’s all it would take. perfect. #lrnchat
9:48:58 pm LnDDave: q5) focus less on compliance education and more on compliance performance support. #lrnchat
9:49:00 pm coyenator: RT @LnDDave: Q5) bring compliance education right into the workflow, where it happens. YES, real time, eg. co-worker coaching? #lrnchat
9:49:14 pm write2tg: Q5) Use compelling case studies and stories to make learners think- Challenge them- “So you think you know compliance”!#lrnchat
9:49:18 pm JD_Dillon: RT @LnDDave: q5) focus less on compliance education and more on compliance performance support. #lrnchat
9:49:23 pm Sharon_Boller: @minutebio Like the idea of shifting to personal responsibility for…bet that won’t fly with the legal eagles, though #lrnchat
9:49:32 pm weisblatt: RT @LnDDave: Q5) bring compliance education right into the workflow, where it happens. #lrnchat
9:49:36 pm LnDDave: RT @Quinnovator: RT @jadekaz: RT @MMTingley: don’t insult learners. >> THIS. that’s all it would take. perfect. #lrnchat
9:49:49 pm stipton: @britz Gotta love snag-it. #lrnchat
9:49:51 pm Plock2009: RT @Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q5) bring compliance education right into the workflow, where it happens. #lrnchat
9:49:54 pm Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: q5) focus less on compliance education and more on compliance performance support. #lrnchat < or just compliance performance.
9:50:15 pm MJK60631: RT @Quinnovator: RT @jadekaz: RT @MMTingley: don’t insult learners. >> THIS. that’s all it would take. perfect. #lrnchat
9:50:46 pm JD_Dillon: Q5) Give employees the straight poop. This is what we expect of you. Don’t fluff it up. #lrnchat
9:51:07 pm write2tg: Q5) Shift from compliance training to compliance ‘performance’. Isn’t everything about doing (or not doing)! #lrnchat
9:51:23 pm audioswhite: @britz true enough. I will avoid the Yoda quote :) but we need to be mindful of slipping into “They said” and move to “how can we” #lrnchat
9:51:24 pm billcush: OK…that I like. RT @quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q5) bring compliance education right into the workflow, where it happens.#lrnchat
9:51:36 pm treverreeh: Graphing Museum. http://t.co/6clxHMXD #edchat #lrnchat
9:51:52 pm coyenator: RT @JD_Dillon: Q5) Give employees the straight poop. This is what we expect of you. Dont fluff it up. #lrnchat
9:52:21 pm Plock2009: Q5) Many of our legal folks are fantastic story tellers. They love case scenarios. #lrnchat”
9:54:06 pm weisblatt: RT @Plock2009: Q5) Many of our legal folks are fantastic story tellers. > So let’s just videotape them telling stories. #lrnchat
9:54:55 pm coyenator: RT @quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q5) bring compliance education right into the workflow, where it happens. #lrnchat
9:55:02 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Time is almost up. Please reintroduce yourself. Share links, requests & shameless plugs. #lrnchat
9:55:24 pm weisblatt: Q5) Compliance youtube. Give people who ‘get it’ videocameras to show how it’s done. #lrnchat
9:55:39 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time is almost up. Please reintroduce yourself. Share links, requests & shameless plugs. #lrnchat
9:55:40 pm weisblatt: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time is almost up. Please reintroduce yourself. Share links, requests & shameless plugs. #lrnchat
9:55:54 pm MMTingley: Excellent RT @weisblatt @Plock2009: Q5) Many… legal folks are fantastic story tellers > So let’s videotape them telling stories. #lrnchat
9:56:12 pm urbie: #lrnchat qwrap urbie delgado, http://t.co/kUCk7xGL, rehumanizing distance education
9:56:17 pm kelly_smith01: Q0) Kelly Smith, Learning Consultant, North Texas -#lrnchat
9:56:17 pm write2tg: Being compliant (or not) is an attitude. Focus on the softer aspects of this ‘dialogue’. #lrnchat
9:56:20 pm MJK60631: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time is almost up. Please reintroduce yourself. Share links, requests & shameless plugs. #lrnchat
9:56:24 pm JD_Dillon: Qwrap) JD from Orlando. I feel mucho ethical and compliant as a result of tonight’s #lrnchat.
9:56:26 pm weisblatt: Qwrap) Adam Weisblatt eLearning developer in Connecticut. #lrnchat
9:56:58 pm Dave_Ferguson: Dave, currently in full job-aid mode; got good examples you might like to share? I’m building an online collection. #lrnchat
9:57:04 pm billcush: Qwrap) Have a new book coming out on Critical Skills Learning Pros Need Now. You know you want to buy it.http://t.co/uBnaEz3w #lrnchat
9:57:08 pm coyenator: Thx for a great lrnchat, LaDonna Coy, New Media & Prevention, Learning Chi, http://t.co/VQY764aD #lrnchat
9:57:08 pm jadekaz: Qwrap: ID hat off, mommy story teller hat on next. I promise to dream non-compliantly. Excellent chat and so many laughs 2nite#lrnchat
9:57:08 pm ActivateLearn: @billcush #lrnchat Naturally our company has blocked this site because it’s a video. Gggrr!!!
9:57:26 pm write2tg: Qwrap) Taruna Goel from beautiful Vancouver signing off after an engaging session today. I care about compliance #lrnchat
9:57:27 pm billcush: Qwrap) Is that shameless enough? #lrnchat
9:57:30 pm Plock2009: #lrnchat - q5) me: tell me about a time someone saved our a-s by doing this right? Gen Counsel: where shall we begin?
9:57:47 pm AnthonyDurante: RT @catherine_delia: If we took the temperature of this #lrnchat the patient would be dead. Can we try & say “Yes we can” instead of “Ugh, I give up”?
9:57:50 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman – eLearning Designer in Baltimore. Thx every1. 2nite’s #LrnChat was fantastic. Thx @jmass #lrnchat
9:58:20 pm billcush: Understand! Brutal! RT @activatelearn: @billcush #lrnchat Naturally our company has blocked this site because it’s a video. Gggrr!!!
9:58:22 pm weisblatt: RT @Plock2009: q5) me: tell me about a time someone saved our a-s by doing this right? Gen Counsel: where shall we begin?#lrnchat
9:58:23 pm MMTingley: Qwrap) Melissa Tingley eLearning ID in transition. Boston. Might actually blog this one. G’night all! #lrnchat
9:58:27 pm LnDDave: qWrap) David Kelly, Compliance Training Harbinger of Doom from NYC. Thanks everyone for a great chat. #lrnchat
9:58:33 pm MJK60631: Qwrap) Melissa, Finance Learning @KraftFoods. Thanks to everyone for another thought-provoking session. You’re all fairly awesome. #lrnchat
9:58:40 pm kelly_smith01: Yes great no holds barred #lrnchat tonight
9:58:41 pm ActivateLearn: @coyenator @JD_Dillon #lrnchat In Australia “poop” means something else but I don’t think you meant that! ;-)
9:59:02 pm lrnchat: Thanks for joining #lrnchat. We’ll post the transcript on http://t.co/O8x38OGR soon. See you next Thursday!
9:59:20 pm audioswhite: @tmiket it is and for many of us we prob find ourselves on both sides! But the danger is falling into trap discussed here tonight #lrnchat
10:00:04 pm weisblatt: This chat was a) better than b b) as good as a c) all of the above. #lrnchat
10:00:13 pm catherine_delia: Qwrap) Catherine from Rochester, NY where we’ll be hiring to help transform compliance Ed soon. I’ll review transcript 4 nuggets #lrnchat
10:00:21 pm billcush: Word! RT @minutebio: Jeff Goldman – eLearning Designer in Baltimore. Thx every1. 2nite’s #LrnChat was fantastic. Thx @jmass #lrnchat
10:00:31 pm LnDDave: QWrap) join next week’s discussion on #LearningStyles and help set the record straight. Details here: http://t.co/sBWptYer#lrnchat
10:01:06 pm Dave_Ferguson: @LnDDave I won’t be here next week, then. I can’t possibly drink that much in 90 minutes. #lrnchat
10:01:18 pm billcush: Ciao all. #lrnchat
10:01:40 pm Quinnovator: thanks to all new and returning participants for another lively #Lrnchat!
10:01:41 pm audioswhite: Qwrap) goodnight #lrnchat Stephen White in Bethlehem PA
10:02:22 pm LnDDave: @Dave_Ferguson thankfully, it’ not next week’s #lrnchat topic – just a little blogging experiment.
10:02:30 pm Quinnovator: qwrap) Clark Quinn: learning experience design strategy, consultant/speaker/consultant, non-compliant malcontent#lrnchat
10:02:50 pm stipton: Good night #lrnchat - go out there and develop or share something amazing
10:03:01 pm sparkandco: “@weisblatt: This chat was a) better than b b) as good as a c) all of the above. #lrnchat” <snicker
10:03:28 pm Quinnovator: running an elearning strategy preconference workshop at Learning Solutions, if you want to take a step up…#lrnchat#LSCon
10:05:53 pm ActivateLearn: #lrnchat Qwrap) Helen Blunden – I’ve done my compliance training for the year so I’m HAPPY!!!!!

Transcript 27 January 2012

January 27, 2012

09:29:21 am marciamarcia: Not to confuse those who participate in Thursday night #lrnchat, we’re trying a daytime one Fridays starting in 1min.
09:29:21 am lrnchat: Not to confuse those who participate in Thursday night #lrnchat, we’re trying a daytime one Fridays starting in 1min.
09:30:14 am lrnchat: Welcome to a new day/new time early #lrnchat! How are you today?
09:31:05 am lrnchat: New to #lrnchat ? We have rules available here: http://t.co/VJAHV0Uo
09:31:17 am C4LPT: Early #lrnchat about to start, I’ll be RTing questions, please join in by tweeting ur answer and include #lrnchat hashtag
09:31:35 am C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Welcome to a new day/new time early #lrnchat! How are you today?
09:31:42 am C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: New to #lrnchat ? We have rules available here: http://t.co/9yMiv4A0
09:31:56 am alexpickett: RT @lrnchat: Welcome to a new day/new time early #lrnchat! How are you today?
09:32:03 am lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ the weekly #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself. Where are you from? What have you learned this week?
09:32:10 am alatalite: RT @lrnchat: Check out “Create a Learning Culture” by @marciamarcia http://t.co/csJlOkK0 in prep for #lrnchat today!
09:32:14 am C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ the weekly #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself. Where are you from? What have you learned this week?
09:32:40 am urbie: #lrnchat Friday starting now .. obstreperous tweets the next 90 minutes or so
09:32:54 am marciamarcia: Marcia Conner, #lrnchat founder, based in Virginia, back from vacation, obsessed w/ helping organizational culture not suck.
09:32:55 am EmmanuelleEN: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ the weekly #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself. Where are you from? What have you learned this week?
09:33:00 am urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ the weekly #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself. Where are you from? What have you learned this week?
09:33:17 am LearnTribe: Hi, Gordon, Learning Tech & jack of all trades from Glasgow joining #lrnchat for first time in ages – hope new time works
09:33:39 am EmmanuelleEN: RT @lrnchat: Check out “Create a Learning Culture” by @marciamarcia http://t.co/csJlOkK0 in prep for #lrnchat today!
09:33:39 am nmdunk: Going to participate in #lrnchat – be prepared for the barrage of tweets!
09:33:44 am urbie: #lrnchat Q0 urbie delgado, instructional designer .. in arizona today .. focus: rehumanizing elearning .. http://t.co/sQr0dU0a
09:34:49 am ignaciocl: RT @marciamarcia: Not to confuse those who participate in Thursday night #lrnchat, we’re trying a daytime one Fridays starting in 1min.
09:35:37 am nmdunk: Nadine Dunk, medical writer and learning consultant at @metrixgroup in Toronto.
#lrnchat
09:35:55 am EmmanuelleEN: I’ve discovered a new (free) tool for teachers : Jog the Web http://t.co/7ijprRGP created by @samdrine #lrnchat
09:35:56 am urbie: #lrnchat q0, learned this week: one person connected to SoMe is never alone .. which evokes weird thoughts when i step out of the shower
09:36:37 am johnlrice: #lrnchat new to #lrnchat. HR VP at steel alloy with an op to build a new learning org from scratch. Ideas?
09:36:46 am learningfy: RT @_SachinGaur iPad Textbooks: Reality Less Revolutionary Than Hardware http://t.co/dY2lqeLk #EdTech #Lrnchat
09:37:11 am nmdunk: This week, I learned how to embed Flash movies into a powerpoint presentation #lrnchat
09:37:20 am AnnJ00: Q0) Ann Dakers from Surrey. I’ve learned not to underestimate my colleagues #lrnchat
09:37:51 am C4LPT: Welcome all newcomers to #lrnchat
09:38:50 am marciamarcia: Wondering what’s a Learning Culture? Whole bunch of info at http://t.co/rkKpmBov #lrnchat
09:39:20 am JRSPipBoy2008: My name is Jack Shipley from Reading, PA and I have been a gamaholic for 30+ years. Learned that some punches can’t be rolled with #lrnchat
09:40:00 am partnercreativo: I will have a deep look ;-) RT @marciamarcia: Wondering what’s a Learning Culture? Whole bunch of info at http://t.co/8A0Cvr2u #lrnchat
09:40:00 am wls1961: Wanda Simpson, Instructional Designer in Morgantown, WV learned that SoMe can bring down a bill in Congress. Goodbye SOPA! #lrnchat
09:40:04 am lrnchat: Q1) Is your organization a learning culture? If so, what makes it so. If not, why not? #lrnchat
09:40:16 am C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Is your organization a learning culture? If so, what makes it so. If not, why not? #lrnchat
09:40:19 am ConroyChristina: Q0) Christina from Richmond I have learnt that the pedagogy of learning drives the technology tools you use #lrnchat
09:40:48 am urbie: RT @C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Is your organization a learning culture? If so, what makes it so. If not, why not? #lrnchat
09:41:09 am EmmanuelleEN: RT @C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Is your organization a learning culture? If so, what makes it so. If not, why not? #lrnchat
09:41:37 am LearnTribe: qo It doesn’t matter how good your ideas are if someone with seniority thinks they have a better one. Hard lesson. #lrnchat
09:41:51 am TheCR: Important, all cmties are about learning @marciamarcia: Wondering what’s a Learning Culture? Bunch of info at http://t.co/zGBc4N9R #lrnchat
09:42:07 am Neon_Moose: RT @lrnchat: Check out “Create a Learning Culture” by @marciamarcia http://t.co/csJlOkK0 in prep for #lrnchat today!
09:42:24 am SteveAncheh: “@lrnchat: Q1) Is your organization a learning culture? If so, what makes it so. If not, why not? #lrnchat”
09:42:30 am urbie: #lrnchat Q1 the answer to that one, i’m afraid, lies a couple pay grades above me we have a culture of CYA tho
09:42:35 am chet_stevenson: hello #lrnchat ! Q0) Chester Stevenson, Columbia, Missouri, I learned that Human performance cannot be engineered, only influenced. #lrnchat
09:42:43 am EmmanuelleEN: @samdrine Si tu as le temps, rejoins-nous sur #lrnchat
09:42:55 am chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Is your organization a learning culture? If so, what makes it so. If not, why not? #lrnchat
09:43:27 am wls1961: Q1) #lrnchat// I believe it is. Sharing information and giving people tools to be successful are important.
09:43:45 am britz: Q0) Mark Britz, ‘Cuse NY – I’m late. #lrnchat
09:42:24 am SteveAncheh: “@lrnchat: Q1) Is your organization a learning culture? If so, what makes it so. If not, why not? #lrnchat”
09:42:30 am urbie: #lrnchat Q1 the answer to that one, i’m afraid, lies a couple pay grades above me we have a culture of CYA tho
09:42:35 am chet_stevenson: hello #lrnchat ! Q0) Chester Stevenson, Columbia, Missouri, I learned that Human performance cannot be engineered, only influenced. #lrnchat
09:42:43 am EmmanuelleEN: @samdrine Si tu as le temps, rejoins-nous sur #lrnchat
09:42:55 am chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Is your organization a learning culture? If so, what makes it so. If not, why not? #lrnchat
09:43:27 am wls1961: Q1) #lrnchat// I believe it is. Sharing information and giving people tools to be successful are important.
09:43:45 am britz: Q0) Mark Britz, ‘Cuse NY – I’m late. #lrnchat
09:43:54 am RobJacobs_: Yes we are a learning org. Big vision, quick change requires constant flexibility and learning. #lrnchat
09:44:04 am ConroyChristina: #lrnchat Q1 my organization believes learning changes lives http://www.racc.ac.uk which I am proud of
09:44:17 am ConroyChristina: RT @SteveAncheh: “@lrnchat: Q1) Is your organization a learning culture? If so, what makes it so. If not, why not? #lrnchat”
09:44:21 am JRSPipBoy2008: Q1) I would say no, its not. When in doubt, hire a consultant to provide a solution. Glad I also do consulting work #lrnchat
09:44:30 am chet_stevenson: Q1) No, it’s not a learning organization. Too much Siloing and not enough top-down support. #lrnchat
09:44:59 am marciamarcia: RT @chet_stevenson: hello #lrnchat ! Q0) Chester Stevenson, Columbia, Missouri, I learned that Human performance cannot be engineered, only influenced. #lrnchat
09:45:26 am AnnJ00: #lrnchat Q1) We have pockets of learning culture, where people are inquisitive and thoughtful
09:45:57 am wls1961: “@RobJacobs_: Yes we are a learning org. Big vision, quick change requires constant flexibility and learning. #lrnchat”//Same experience!
09:46:03 am britz: Q1) No, we’re not. We’re a “Training Culture” the road to learning is highly top down. however Decentralization is Happening #lrnchat
09:46:03 am johnlrice: #lrnchat I learned there is a new social perf mgt company called Kudos. @drpaulmarciano
09:46:05 am urbie: #lrnchat Q1, growing up there was this song we’d sing at camp: “Let there be peace on earth” .. significant because .. “it begins with me”
09:46:14 am JRSPipBoy2008: RT @C4LPT: New early #lrnchat starts today 2.30 pm GMT/3.30 pm CET/9.30 am ET Topic: Learning Culture Pre-reading http://t.co/DfbiNEkC
09:46:32 am ghenrick: RT @LearnTribe: qo It doesn’t matter how good your ideas are if someone with seniority thinks they have a better one. Hard lesson. #lrnchat
09:46:48 am alexpickett: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Is your organization a learning culture? If so, what makes it so. If not, why not? #lrnchat
09:46:49 am urbie: #lrnchat Q1 so, i guess the learning culture should begin with me .. modeling and whatever ..
09:46:51 am LearnTribe: q1 Lots of positive talk , some champions. Too early to say if action will result from major changes heading down the line. #lrnchat
09:47:37 am urbie: #lrnchat Q1 so yes, my org has a learning culture .. lately moving towards SMEs as designers ..
09:48:20 am lastkaled: RT @LearnTribe: qo It doesn’t matter how good your ideas are if someone with seniority thinks they have a better one. Hard lesson. #lrnchat
09:48:45 am RobJacobs_: Learning culture begins with leadership who create the culture. Often heard around my org..”Leaders are learners” #lrnchat
09:49:07 am britz: Q1) Why not? I believe one factor is learning learned helplessness – the training machine is big and very influencial #lrnchat
09:49:14 am ConroyChristina: @urbie #lrnchat who said you have to role model the change you want to have?
09:49:34 am marciamarcia: Don’t give up hope if your org culture doesn’t learn. Divisions and even departments can have their own culture. #lrnchat
09:50:46 am urbie: @ConroyChristina #lrnchat basically every significant adult (and a few cartoon characters) in my life .. “be the change” — Ghandi
09:52:15 am AmberandGreene: Hi all coming in late on this one, hope you are all well #lrnchat
09:52:21 am alexpickett: @lrnchat Q1)i think we asprire &have pockets of commitment 2 lrning&continuous improvement-org culture needs to lead allow&empower #lrnchat
09:52:23 am C_ZunD_RITE: RT @RobJacobs_: Learning culture begins with leadership who create the culture. Often heard around my org..”Leaders are learners” #lrnchat
09:52:37 am MabroIRL: RT @marciamarcia: Don’t give up hope if your org culture doesn’t learn. Divisions and even departments can have their own culture. #lrnchat
09:53:06 am EmmanuelleEN: Q1: Schools as learning culture : for teachers who dare to innovate >they don’t wait for the change to come from above. #lrnchat
09:53:21 am britz: RT @marciamarcia: Dont give up hope if your org culture doesnt learn. Divisions and even departments can have their own culture. #lrnchat
09:53:33 am idol_era: RT @AnnJ00: #lrnchat Q1) We have pockets of learning culture, where people are inquisitive and thoughtful
09:54:19 am AmberandGreene: learning and culture are not separate but in a continuous dependent circular circle #lrnchat
09:54:21 am ConroyChristina: @urbie #lrnchat an organization or team needs to love learning and help those who are learning
09:55:03 am lrnchat: Q2) What prevents the people in your organization from learning continuously? #lrnchat
09:55:21 am RobJacobs_: RT @AmberandGreene: learning and culture are not separate but in a continuous dependent circular circle #lrnchat
09:55:24 am AmberandGreene: learning and culture are not separate but in a continuous dependent circular cycle #lrnchat
09:55:26 am urbie: @ConroyChristina #lrnchat the best learning culture i was ever in: my A-Team in the Navy .. it was in our best interest to learn .. fast
09:55:41 am C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What prevents the people in your organization from learning continuously? #lrnchat
09:55:43 am ConroyChristina: @urbie which cartoon character? #lrnchat
09:56:01 am AmberandGreene: @ConroyChristina hi good to see you on here, in the day time. *waves* #lrnchat
09:56:27 am alexpickett: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What prevents the people in your organization from learning continuously? #lrnchat
09:56:32 am edCetraT: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What prevents the people in your organization from learning continuously? #lrnchat
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09:56:54 am RobJacobs_: @urbie felt the same way during my time in the Marine Corps. Learn fast…your life might depend on it. #lrnchat
09:56:54 am EmmanuelleEN: Q1) learning culture in schools : essential for teachers’ well being – and essential for modeling it to kids #lrnchat
09:56:58 am niallgavinuk: #lrnchat ? Friday? 14:30 UK? Damn…!
09:57:20 am LearnTribe: q2 Pressure to get job done – even if taking time to learning continuously is investment to working more efficiently #lrnchat
09:57:21 am edCetraT: Q2) Having the ability to learn how to learn while working (if that makes sense to anyone :) ) #lrnchat
09:57:34 am wls1961: Q2) What prevents the people in your organization from learning continuously? #lrnchat”// deadlines.
09:57:38 am busynessgirl: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ the weekly #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself. Where are you from? What have you learned this week?
09:57:41 am EmmanuelleEN: RT @C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What prevents the people in your organization from learning continuously? #lrnchat
09:57:41 am ConroyChristina: @AmberandGreene thanks only got an hour but just can’t do late #lrnchat
09:57:42 am urbie: @ConroyChristina #lrnchat Snoopy, Bugs Bunny and Popeye .. the latter esp .. you know, i have Popeye & Snoopy tattoos on my arms :D
09:57:55 am busynessgirl: RT @C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: New to #lrnchat ? We have rules available here: http://t.co/9yMiv4A0
09:57:56 am samdrine: @17marsconseil bonsoir, j’ai pas le temps trop de travail mais tu devrais uivre #lrnchat très pertinent avec nos problématiques
09:58:02 am urbie: RT @RobJacobs_: @urbie felt the same way during my time in the Marine Corps. Learn fast…your life might depend on it. #lrnchat
09:58:05 am ConroyChristina: RT @alexpickett: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What prevents the people in your organization from learning continuously? #lrnchat
09:58:10 am AmberandGreene: @niallgavinuk dont worry you’re not the only one to be slightly confused join in, still n Q1 okay Q2 #lrnchat
09:58:15 am C4LPT: #lrnchat q2) I would think in many orgs, pple don’t see the WIIFM – do u agree?
09:58:20 am AnnJ00: #lrnchat Q2) I think a lot is attitude – they don’t want to know anything unless they need to use it in the next week or so
09:58:26 am idol_era: Q2 complacency prevents them from learning #lrnchat
09:58:27 am urbie: @RobJacobs_ #lrnchat exactly .. you want a learning culture: make it personal with an un-ambiguous pay-off
09:58:27 am busynessgirl: RT @lrnchat: Not to confuse those who participate in Thursday night #lrnchat, we’re trying a daytime one Fridays starting in 1min.
09:59:21 am C4LPT: @niallgavinuk Yes, new day/time #lrnchat
09:59:22 am britz: Q2) I think they are learning continuously. They are just not aware of the learning in the work. Increasing this awareness is key #lrnchat
09:59:22 am LearnTribe: q2 – why learn when you can get someone else to do it for you #lrnchat
09:59:26 am idol_era: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What prevents the people in your organization from learning continuously? #lrnchat
09:59:49 am nmdunk: Q2) the insular feeling one gets around deadlines #lrnchat
10:00:08 am AmberandGreene: @jmass my goodness, yesterday lrnchat and today’s one *tips hat* well done thought i was the only one, hope ur well #lrnchat
10:00:13 am ConroyChristina: “@AnnJ00: #lrnchat Q2) I think a lot is attitude – they don’t want to know anything unless they need to use it in the next week or so” Agree
10:00:32 am alexpickett: @lrnchat q2) apathy complacency ignorance disengagement lack of models, leadership, inspiration, and permission #lrnchat
10:00:39 am edCetraT: Q2) Too comfortable in what they do on a daily basis. Challenge them with a new project and they will learn daily/hourly!
#lrnchat
10:00:44 am AmberandGreene: RT @LearnTribe: q2 – why learn when you can get someone else to do it for you>>> because no one can take it away from you #lrnchat
10:00:50 am C4LPT: RT @britz Q2) I think they are learning continuouslyThey r just not aware of learning in the work Increasing awareness is key <Yep #lrnchat
10:01:10 am urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What prevents the people in your organization from learning continuously? #lrnchat
10:01:49 am urbie: #lrnchat q2, thing is, learning culture or not .. they ARE learning continuously .. but are they learning what the org wants them too?
10:01:57 am web20education: #ls6 team launch new competition& brochure Top 10 #socialmedia practice in Europe #edtech20 #pln http://t.co/71yiv80e #edchat #lrnchat #fetc
10:02:34 am britz: Q2) @C4LPT and with the right tools they can better capure, curate and connect to continuously learn in the workflow #lrnchat
10:02:42 am nmdunk: agreed! RT @britz: Q2) They are just not aware of the learning in the work. Increasing this awareness is key #lrnchat
10:02:48 am urbie: #lrnchat q2, learning cultures abhor a vacuum .. SOMETHING .. will fill its place
10:02:52 am edCetraT: RT @alexpickett: @lrnchat q2) apathy complacency ignorance disengagement lack of models, leadership, inspiration, and permission #lrnchat
10:02:59 am AmberandGreene: @samdrine parlez vous anglais? #lrnchat
10:03:01 am EmmanuelleEN: Q2) Could say time, accountability – but I think the main hindrance is pers culture: you’re done school, you’re done learning! #lrnchat
10:03:11 am C4LPT: q2) What prevents pple from realising they r learning continuously is the mindset that thinks learning only happens in a classroom #lrnchat
10:03:16 am LearnTribe: @AmberandGreene agree – but some people are lazy or consider certain tasks beneath them. Others just afraid to try #lrnchat
10:04:02 am alexpickett: @lrnchat …and a lack of awareness. #lrnchat
10:04:08 am urbie: #lrnchat q2, great example of a learning culture: where the/your kids go after school ..
10:04:19 am AmberandGreene: @LearnTribe yes there are the lazy, afriad, indifferent ppl to consider #lrnchat
10:04:43 am britz: @EmmanuelleEN Part of Learning Learned Helplessness http://t.co/S0jkNQh6 #lrnchat
10:04:48 am idol_era: RT @urbie: #lrnchat q2, thing is, learning culture or not .. they ARE learning continuously .. but are they learning what the org wants them too?
10:04:52 am RobJacobs_: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What prevents the people in your organization from learning continuously? #lrnchat
10:04:57 am nmdunk: RT @LearnTribe: @AmberandGreene some ppl are lazy or consider tasks beneath them>> this needs to be addressed by sr. mgnt #lrnchat
10:04:57 am nmdunk: RT @LearnTribe: @AmberandGreene some ppl are lazy or consider tasks beneath them>> this needs to be addressed by sr. mgnt #lrnchat
10:04:57 am EmmanuelleEN: @AmberandGreene @samdrine J’ai l’impression qu’il n’y a pas beacoup de franco sur #lrnchat
10:05:02 am ConroyChristina: #lrnchat just heard the term ‘Learnscape’ to describe work environments that are rich in learning opportunities RT
10:05:40 am klaceyd: @britz Q2) @C4LPT Definitely! #lrnchat
10:05:44 am klaceyd: RT @britz: Q2) @C4LPT and with the right tools they can better capure, curate and connect to continuously learn in the workflow #lrnchat
10:05:44 am urbie: #lrnchat q2 i thing #STEM is a great resource for establishing learning cultures .. it’s got to be relevant & fun .. hear that orgs?
10:06:13 am AmberandGreene: @samdrine @17marsconseil ici, (#lrnchat) tout le monde parle anglais, je pense?
10:06:16 am marciamarcia: RT @urbie: #lrnchat q2, thing is, learning culture or not .. they ARE learning continuously .. but are they learning what the org wants them too?
10:06:28 am RobJacobs_: Q2) Time spent learning/training needs 2 B viewed just as important as the work. Learning keeps your org. nimble to do the next job #lrnchat
10:06:34 am C4LPT: @ConroyChristina My colleague @jaycross talks about Workscapes, since “learning is the work”. #lrnchat
10:06:54 am edCetraT: RT @EmmanuelleEN: @samdrine Jai limpression quil ny a pas beacoup de franco sur>>bonjour. j’suis de MTL habitant Toronto. #lrnchat
10:06:59 am LearnTribe: @nmdunk that’s assuming they aren’t the worst offenders! ;) #lrnchat
10:07:09 am BryanJacobson6: RT @ConroyChristina: #lrnchat just heard the term ‘Learnscape’ to describe work environments that are rich in learning opportunities RT
10:07:12 am marciamarcia: RT @urbie: #STEM is a great resource for establishing learning cultures .. its got to be relevant & fun .. hear that orgs? #lrnchat
10:07:33 am EmmanuelleEN: @britz Thanks, will read :) #lrnchat
10:07:34 am urbie: @ConroyChristina #lrnchat Intel (spent 5 really rewarding years there) has an AWESOME learning culture .. you see it (trub) you own it ..
10:07:44 am ConroyChristina: “@C4LPT: @ConroyChristina My colleague @jaycross talks about Workscapes, since “learning is the work”. #lrnchat” I like that one 2
10:08:01 am klaceyd: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What prevents the people in your organization from learning continuously? #lrnchat
10:08:33 am nmdunk: Very true! RT @LearnTribe: @nmdunk thats assuming they arent the worst offenders! ;) #lrnchat
10:08:35 am alexpickett: @lrnchat Q2) when i am done learning, i will be dead. don’t know how/where/from whom i lrned that. can it be taught? catalyzed? #lrnchat
10:08:41 am AmberandGreene: @samdrine pas de probleme, you’re just a multi-talented multitasker! #impresiv #lrnchat
10:09:16 am EmmanuelleEN: @edCetraT @samdrine Yé ! Les franco se dévoilent ;) #lrnchat
10:09:25 am edCetraT: Q2) the PPL themselves ;) . you can push the training.. but the learning won’t happen if they are not open to it #lrnchat
10:09:30 am busynessgirl: RT @ConroyChristina: #lrnchat just heard the term ‘Learnscape’ to describe work environments that are rich in learning opportunities RT
10:09:42 am nmdunk: @lrnchat: how can a learning culture be created from bottom up? #lrnchat
10:09:53 am LearnTribe: @urbie RE #STEM – to be fun and relevant needs STEAM – where are the arts and creativity in the model? #lrnchat
10:09:54 am AmberandGreene: RT @BryanJacobson6:@ConroyChristina: #lrnchat just heard the term Learnscape= work environments, rich in learning opportunities. #lrnchat
10:10:05 am urbie: #lrnchat q2 .. not really relevant, but still worthwhile .. panel number 6: http://t.co/EW6ucvM6
10:10:10 am lrnchat: Q3) What does it take to foster an environment where people can learn all the time? #lrnchat
10:10:10 am C4LPT: q2) Research shows that people learn (most) to do their jobs by actually doing their jobs, that = “learning continuously” #lrnchat
10:10:42 am alexpickett: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What does it take to foster an environment where people can learn all the time? #lrnchat
10:10:45 am ConroyChristina: RT @AmberandGreene: RT @BryanJacobson6:@ConroyChristina: #lrnchat just heard the term Learnscape= work environments, rich in learning opportunities. #lrnchat
10:10:53 am C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What does it take to foster an environment where people can learn all the time? #lrnchat
10:11:02 am urbie: @LearnTribe #lrnchat the arts and creativity in the model are where they need to be: within the student where they belong .. #STEM activates
10:11:13 am nmdunk: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What does it take to foster an environment where people can learn all the time? #lrnchat
10:11:23 am klaceyd: @lrnchat Q3) What does it take to foster an environment where people can learn all the time? #lrnchat
10:11:25 am RobJacobs_: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What does it take to foster an environment where people can learn all the time? #lrnchat
10:11:33 am AmberandGreene: Agree RT q2) Research shows that people learn (most) to do their jobs by actually doing their jobs, that = “learning continuously” #lrnchat
10:11:52 am EmmanuelleEN: Q2) Classroom syndrom : you learn in a set place, in a set way… and to some extend with a set sense of boredom #lrnchat
10:12:36 am urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What does it take to foster an environment where people can learn all the time? #lrnchat
10:12:57 am alexpickett: @lrnchat Q3) they need access time permission example recognition #lrnchat
10:13:01 am lrnchat: Who participates in #lrnchat? http://t.co/UqzY41vM If you’re not on the list but should be, please let @marciamarcia know
10:13:02 am RobJacobs_: Q3) Create an environ. where VISION creates new challenges, creating new problems, requiring new ideas, knowledge, and skills. #lrnchat
10:13:13 am ConroyChristina: Q3 #lrnchat environments with diversity and creative problem solving projects = coping with shared challenge from diff perspectives
10:13:17 am britz: Q3) What does it take to foster an environment where people can learn all the time? / TRUST #lrnchat
10:13:19 am ConroyChristina: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What does it take to foster an environment where people can learn all the time? #lrnchat
10:13:29 am urbie: #lrnchat Q3 .. fostering an environment where people learn all the time requires something many organizations are decidedly short on: smiles
10:13:40 am EmmanuelleEN: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What does it take to foster an environment where people can learn all the time? #lrnchat
10:14:18 am nmdunk: The 70:20:10 idea, but 20(formal) & 10(coach) are imp too RT C4LPT q2) Research shows that ppl learn by actually doing their jobs #lrnchat
10:14:25 am AmberandGreene: @samdrine you’re doing that and doing #lrnchat! WOW
10:15:07 am urbie: #lrnchat Q3 too many orgs (mine too sometimes) are like the http://t.co/QbbYoUWm .. want a learning culture, lighten up, be creative
10:15:09 am nmdunk: The 70:20:10 idea, but 20(formal) & 10(coach) are imp too RT @C4LPT q2) Research shows that ppl learn by actually doing their jobs #lrnchat
10:15:11 am C4LPT: q3) 1/2 A mindset that values the learning that takes place, continuously, outside the training room #lrnchat
10:15:20 am happyhenry: I’m with @urbie and @britz, a working environment where people feel good, are happy and are trusted. #lrnchat
10:15:22 am LearnTribe: @urbie Art & creativity less use if student can’t express them because they’re not part of what’s being assessed #lrnchat
10:15:26 am AmberandGreene: @samdrine je serais tout à fait incapable de le faire #lrnchat
10:15:35 am spbt_tweets: @lrnchat @marciamarcia just joined and enjoying the conversation! #lrnchat
10:16:24 am AmberandGreene: RT @happyhenry: Im with @urbie & @britz, a working environment where people feel good, are happy and are trusted.>> & an open mind #lrnchat
10:16:25 am EmmanuelleEN: Q3) Reflexive, unstructured time ; means to think alone ; means to share thinking #lrnchat
10:16:27 am happyhenry: @marciamarcia hi, please put me on the list for #lrnchat
10:16:42 am C4LPT: q3) 2/2 An organisation that doesn’t (want to) try and monitor/manage/measure learning that takes place outside the training room #lrnchat
10:17:00 am marciamarcia: @spbt_tweets Welcome!! #lrnchat
10:17:00 am ConroyChristina: RT @happyhenry: I’m with @urbie and @britz, a working environment where people feel good, are happy and are trusted. #lrnchat
10:17:03 am urbie: @LearnTribe #lrnchat it gets down to how they’re being assessed .. multiple guess, t/f & the like are yuck .. open-ended & pictographs .. :D
10:17:13 am edCetraT: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What does it take to foster an environment where people can learn all the time? #lrnchat
10:17:32 am nmdunk: RT @EmmanuelleEN: Q3) Reflexive, unstructured time ; means to think alone ; means to share thinking #lrnchat
10:17:35 am AmberandGreene: A3 the importance of white space and time out is important to create balanced learning #lrnchat
10:18:19 am nmdunk: Agree RT @AmberandGreene: A3 the importance of white space and time out is important to create balanced learning #lrnchat
10:18:46 am LearnTribe: q3 safe environment to share – and time to think. Don’t punish mistakes that can be learned from #lrnchat
10:19:06 am C4LPT: @nmdunk that’s why I said MOST (ie 70%) sometimes pple put figure at 85% #lrnchat
10:19:11 am marciamarcia: @happyhenry I’ve added you. Thanks for letting me know. Enjoy #lrnchat
10:19:13 am edCetraT: Q3) Trust in resources. Give them Time and the opportunity to Apply the learning #lrnchat
10:19:35 am AmberandGreene: People+ open and willing mind+ time+ enabling environment + creativity+ accepting difference =learning #lrnchat
10:19:41 am britz: Q3) A management creed to hire talented people, provide them the tools they need and give them the “space” to to do the work #lrnchat
10:19:51 am maritzavdh: Jumping into #lrnchat for a while until I have to go.
10:19:53 am busynessgirl: Q3 There needs to be at least one “champion” in the org who visibly supports new ideas/ learning so that mistakes are okay. #lrnchat
10:20:10 am AmberandGreene: @urbie so politely put yucky states…lol #lrnchat
10:20:30 am maritzavdh: q3) Leadership showing that learning is valued and important by including it in the way performance is measured. #lrnchat
10:20:31 am britz: RT @LearnTribe q3 safe environment to share – and time to think. Don’t punish mistakes that can be learned from #lrnchat
10:20:48 am C4LPT: @maritzavdh Hi Maritza, gd to see you here #lrnchat
10:20:58 am spbt_tweets: @britz Agreed trust is key to fostering an environment where people can learn. #lrnchat
10:20:59 am marciamarcia: RT @AmberandGreene: People+open & willingmind+time+enabling environment+creativity+accepting difference=learning #lrnchat
10:21:36 am maritzavdh: q3) A questioning mindset that is encouraged and fostered. Continuous improvement = inspect & adapt #lrnchat
10:21:39 am urbie: @AmberandGreene #lrnchat sorry .. lately my no-nonsense self is ascendant .. which you want in a learning culture right?
10:21:41 am nmdunk: Q3) I think recognizing mistakes, taking accountability and learning are important #lrnchat
10:21:48 am LearnTribe: @urbie theory: orgs that deliver learning have culture that prevents own staff learning. If doing it must already know. #lrnchat
10:21:52 am maritzavdh: @C4LPT Thanks, Jane! Good to be here todayl :0) #lrnchat
10:22:06 am AndrewJacobsLD: Q3 Environment where mistakes are allowed and reviewed and learning is prioritised as an objective. #lrnchat
10:22:42 am busynessgirl: Q3 For any task out project, it’s important for individuals/ organization to ask “What can we learn from doing this?” #lrnchat
10:22:44 am marciamarcia: Continuous improvement = inspect & adapt -@maritzavdh #lrnchat
10:23:15 am ConroyChristina: #lrnchat got to go back to work enjoyed the #PLN see you next time
10:23:17 am busynessgirl: Q3 For any task or project, it’s important for individuals/ organization to ask “What can we learn from doing this?” #lrnchat
10:23:21 am jenjarratt: @busynessgirl #lrnchat Interesting who would step up to support new ideas if company culture against it. Brave leader?
10:23:24 am LearnTribe: @urbie absolutely – but when you get creative things are more subjective – which makes QA and Audit people unhappy… #lrnchat
10:24:05 am nmdunk: Q3) a lot of agreement on learning from mistakes! @AndrewJacobsLD @LearnTribe @edCetraT #lrnchat
10:24:23 am jowestonedes: RT @lrnchat: Check out “Create a Learning Culture” by @marciamarcia http://t.co/Ll60Mt45 in prep for #lrnchat today!
10:24:25 am maritzavdh: q3) Clear and open communication challenges. Most organizations need learning delivered, because people are not talking. #lrnchat
10:24:30 am systhink: RT @marciamarcia: Continuous improvement = inspect & adapt -@maritzavdh #lrnchat
10:24:35 am spbt_tweets: Q3 Having learner advocates in place helps. #lrnchat
10:24:36 am edCetraT: RT @nmdunk: Q3)mistakes. taking accountability & learning r important> agreed adage says it all.. we all learn from our mistakes #lrnchat
10:25:13 am urbie: #lrnchat one thing: “but” has no place in a learning org .. it’s like brainstorming .. you don’t want to stifle..
10:25:16 am maritzavdh: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What can you do to move learning in your organization from being re-active to active or even proactive? #lrnchat
10:25:38 am EmmanuelleEN: Q3) It definitely stars with school culture : schools are the “learning culture” setters. Foster all kinds of learnings in sch… #lrnchat
10:25:39 am AmberandGreene: A3 learning is abut performance, this needs to be recognise, i learn so i can perform better #lrnchat
10:25:50 am edCetraT: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What can you do to move learning in your organization from being re-active to active or even proactive? #lrnchat
10:25:52 am spbt_tweets: RT @lrnchat: Check out “Create a Learning Culture” by @marciamarcia http://t.co/iOzwRcuF in prep for #lrnchat today!
10:25:53 am urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What can you do to move learning in your organization from being re-active to active or even proactive? #lrnchat
10:25:58 am britz: @maritzavdh …and/or not enabled or encouraged to talk #lrnchat
10:25:59 am maritzavdh: @urbie Like improv theatre – always say “yes” and keep building on the foundation that’s been laid. #lrnchat
10:26:03 am nmdunk: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What can you do to move learning in your organization from being re-active to active or even proactive? #lrnchat
10:26:07 am idol_era: @C4LPT agree! Maybe theyre too close to what theyre doing they dont realize the wiifms in their daily tasks #lrnchat
10:26:09 am busynessgirl: @jenjarratt Ideally a leader, but sometimes a confident person in there middle, with support of the leaders. #lrnchat
10:26:16 am C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What can you do to move learning in your organization from being re-active to active or even proactive? #lrnchat
10:26:37 am busynessgirl: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What can you do to move learning in your organization from being re-active to active or even proactive? #lrnchat
10:26:38 am edCetraT: Q4) involve. communicate. get social. #lrnchat
10:26:42 am urbie: @maritzavdh #lrnchat yes .. i really liked that book she’s way clever .. we need more fun (and goofiness) in orgs
10:27:30 am nmdunk: Along the same lines of what I was going to say! RT @edCetraT: Q4) involve. communicate. get social. #lrnchat
10:27:36 am EmmanuelleEN: … and you’ll end up with lifelong “4×4 learners” #lrnchat
10:27:45 am AmberandGreene: A4 to be proactive there needs 2 be greater exchanges of ideas internationally to expose ppl to differences which creates ‘newity’ #lrnchat
10:27:49 am maritzavdh: Q4) Work directly with individuals to find out what they need to do better at their jobs. #lrnchat
10:28:09 am ExpertusONE: @ShiftParadigm @demingSoS @lrnchat > Do u think this progression = evidence of learning culture? Or ur suggesting something else? #lrnchat
10:28:18 am AmberandGreene: bt i made up ‘newity’ because of the word count but i hope that you all get my meaning #lrnchat
10:28:29 am edCetraT: @nmdunk he he.. (Hi Nadine, it’s Nancy) #lrnchat
10:28:35 am nmdunk: Q4) ask for input, and really consider everything, like @urbie says about brainstorming #lrnchat
10:28:37 am britz: Q4) focus more of performance evals (formative/summative) not only on what ppl have done but on what they have helped others do #lrnchat
10:28:38 am alicatNT: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What can you do to move learning in your organization from being re-active to active or even proactive? #lrnchat
10:28:42 am maritzavdh: Q4) Work directly with individuals to coach and mentor in ability to reflect, learn from events without blame/fear of failure. #lrnchat
10:28:51 am learner4eva: RT @spbt_tweets: RT @lrnchat: Check out “Create a Learning Culture” by @marciamarcia http://t.co/iOzwRcuF in prep for #lrnchat today!
10:29:07 am AndrewJacobsLD: Q4 #lrnchat 52 minutes. If your budget for training is 2.5% of your staff costs, give that back to your employees as time. For a 35 hour 1/2
10:29:21 am EmmanuelleEN: RT @C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What can you do to move learning in your organization from being re-active to active or even proactive? #lrnchat
10:29:24 am nmdunk: @edCetraT Hi Nancy! as the saying goes… great minds think alike :) #lrnchat
10:29:39 am dannymaas: RT @C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What can you do to move learning in your organization from being re-active to active or even proactive? #lrnchat
10:29:43 am learner4eva: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What can you do to move learning in your organization from being re-active to active or even proactive? #lrnchat
10:29:49 am klaceyd: I keep forgetting to tag #lrnchat…
10:30:14 am LearnTribe: Meeting to go to – thanks for the #lrnchat all. Bye.
10:30:23 am learner4eva: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What does it take to foster an environment where people can learn all the time? #lrnchat
10:30:25 am C4LPT: q4) Help them to see learning is a means to an end, not the end itself, and that the end goal is to improve performance #lrnchat
10:30:36 am klaceyd: @maritzavdh autonomy needs to be encouraged too. #lrnchat
10:30:41 am C4LPT: @klaceyd Use http://t.co/H8boMq4h and it’ll do it for you :) #lrnchat
10:30:41 am AndrewJacobsLD: #lrnchat week that equates to 52 minutes. Agree how that will be reviewed and give the freedom to the learner to decide what to learn. 2/2
10:30:46 am nmdunk: @klaceyd try a web app like http://t.co/wpNUUZiQ – it tags for you! #lrnchat
10:30:50 am C4LPT: @LearnTribe Thx for dropping by #lrnchat
10:31:07 am maritzavdh: RT @C4LPT: q4) Help them to see learning is a means to an end, not the end itself, and that the end goal is to improve performance #lrnchat
10:31:20 am edCetraT: Q4) say it all the time. Move away from making training an EVENT. #lrnchat
10:31:36 am britz: RT @C4LPT q4) Help them to see learning is a means to an end, not the end itself, and that the end goal is to improve performance #lrnchat
10:31:52 am klaceyd: @britz This is a brilliant idea. It will definitely see collaboration as learning be recognised, embraced, and encouraged… #lrnchat
10:32:02 am maritzavdh: q4) Continue looking for ways for people to learn from each other – pairing/coaching/mentoring – rather than “training sessions”. #lrnchat
10:32:07 am EmmanuelleEN: Q4) Being proactive yourself ; find a support network such as #lrnchat ; look enthused by the process -smile ;)
10:32:33 am urbie: @EmmanuelleEN schools as learning cultures? uhuh. maybe through 2nd grade. after that, you’d think schools were vampire slayers.. #lrnchat
10:33:03 am nmdunk: Love this! RT @britz: Q4) focus more of performance evals not only on what ppl have done but on what they have helped others do #lrnchat
10:33:14 am nmdunk: RT @edCetraT: Q4) say it all the time. Move away from making training an EVENT. #lrnchat
10:34:03 am sparkandco: #lrnchat Q4 – move out of the classroom, have field coaches help them assess perf + find dev’t resources
10:34:15 am britz: RT @urbie schools as lrning cultures? uhuh. maybe through 2nd grade. after that, u’d think schools were vampire slayers/ Factories! #lrnchat
10:34:16 am maritzavdh: Typical in top-down hierarchies. RT @britz: @maritzavdh …and/or not enabled or encouraged to talk #lrnchat
10:35:24 am britz: RT @maritzavdh Typical in top-down hierarchies. RT @britz: @maritzavdh …and/or not enabled or encouraged to talk / Yeppers! #lrnchat
10:35:44 am maritzavdh: @aslamkhn Absolutely. Core foundation of my #learning strategy is measuring work performance, rather than “tracking training”. #lrnchat
10:35:58 am busynessgirl: Q4) I made a resolution this year to look for the learning value in every tall I do. Even grading papers (which I loathe) #lrnchat
10:36:14 am EmmanuelleEN: @urbie My point. Schools are orgs with the same challenges as other orgs. Only they set the culture on what it is to learn.Crucial. #lrnchat
10:36:37 am maritzavdh: q4) Flip the training … Deliver information in chunks, expect/reward collaboration at work to activate knowledge. #lrnchat
10:36:59 am suevjones: @NoraSlone @C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: New to #lrnchat ? We have rules available here: http://t.co/XZ5P1lT2”
10:37:11 am jowestonedes: Q2) @C4LPT give them space to stare out the window and reflect #lrnchat
10:37:17 am sparkandco: Wish #lrnchat were an hour later, it’s 7:30 am here on the wild west coast, sorry to not participate fully
10:37:41 am urbie: @maritzavdh #lrnchat two actually: http://t.co/uNnhW9vY and http://t.co/Jmzj5Ri9 .. Patton & Fey — who woulda thunk it?
10:38:10 am edCetraT: Q4) Do what we do. Encourage them to participate in #lrnchat
10:38:33 am AndrewJacobsLD: @urbie And a culture of risk aversion limits innovation as it tells people what they CAN’T do. #lrnchat
10:38:44 am maritzavdh: Apologies for late joining everybody – newly minted Learning Manager here, with an #agile software development background. #lrnchat
10:38:57 am nmdunk: Where is everyone? RT @edCetraT: Q4) Do what we do. Encourage them to participate in #lrnchat
10:39:00 am urbie: @EmmanuelleEN #lrnchat you want a learning culture: watch the teacher that buys her/his own supplies to enable student success .. right-on!
10:39:57 am maritzavdh: Will be off again soon – weekend and family duties! #lrnchat
10:40:06 am lrnchat: Q5) Rather than “manage” learning, how might you enable an open culture of discovery, sharing & collaboration? #lrnchat
10:40:08 am urbie: @maritzavdh @emmanuelleen #lrnchat instead of the principal, start with the teachers .. stuff like this works its way UP
10:40:17 am maritzavdh: RT @lrnchat: Q5) Rather than “manage” learning, how might you enable an open culture of discovery, sharing & collaboration? #lrnchat
10:40:31 am urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q5) Rather than “manage” learning, how might you enable an open culture of discovery, sharing & collaboration? #lrnchat
10:40:49 am C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q5) Rather than “manage” learning, how might you enable an open culture of discovery, sharing & collaboration? #lrnchat
10:40:57 am EmmanuelleEN: @urbie There is a lot of creativity going on in the teaching world. But it is scattered, which is why the web 2 is such a godsent. #lrnchat
10:41:27 am urbie: #lrnchat Q5 basically, i can enable a culture of discovery, sharing & collaboration by doing like this guy.. http://t.co/UPmnEXbu
10:42:04 am nmdunk: RT @lrnchat Q5) Rather than “manage” learning, how might you enable an open culture of discovery, sharing & collaboration? #lrnchat
10:42:26 am urbie: #lrnchat Q5 basically enabling culture of discovery, sharing and collaboration requires color, engagement & fun.. a little sweat too..
10:42:32 am britz: Q5) IT can start by opening the doors to access. Management can model & encourage. Innovation & sharing should be rewarded #lrnchat
10:42:33 am jmass: Launching our virtual #management #development program globally this year w/#Adobe #Connect! Virtual classroom = #global scale. #lrnchat
10:42:35 am AndrewJacobsLD: Q5 Stop using LMS. #lrnchat
10:42:46 am EmmanuelleEN: @urbie @maritzavdh … or do both, it’ll work twice as fast ;) But anyhow, it is great that you send your message to schools. #lrnchat
10:42:58 am urbie: #lrnchat Q5 speaking of learning culture: how long’s it take for something “cool” to go viral on youtube? it should be like that..
10:43:08 am maritzavdh: Q5) One of our plans – running subtle self-driven learning campaigns in the organization – posters, terminology on card decks. #lrnchat
10:43:22 am klaceyd: RT @lrnchat: Q5) Rather than “manage” learning, how might you enable an open culture of discovery, sharing & collaboration? #lrnchat
10:43:32 am nmdunk: RT @AndrewJacobsLD: Q5 Stop using LMS.> interesting… tell more? #lrnchat
10:43:38 am urbie: @maritzavdh @emmanuelleen #lrnchat true. support from on-high usually leads to a win
10:43:59 am C4LPT: q5) demonstrate the value of collab working/learning by doing it in your own professional practice/team, ie model the behaviour #lrnchat
10:44:12 am leahmacvie: Company unveils line of free online courses from elite college faculty | Inside Higher Ed: http://t.co/jiHOvXy4 #highered #edchat #lrnchat
10:44:13 am klaceyd: @maritzavdh i’d love to hear more about this. what kind of content have you collected for the materials? #lrnchat #lrnchat
10:44:47 am maritzavdh: Q5) Find passionate learners, equip them, celebrate them; Draw others in by growing existing passion. #lrnchat
10:45:21 am nmdunk: RT @klaceyd: @maritzavdh id love to hear more about this. what kind of content have you collected for the materials? #lrnchat #lrnchat
10:45:31 am maritzavdh: @klaceyd No materials yet, just a conviction that I need to get actively involved with my kids’s school if I want this to change. #lrnchat
10:46:17 am nmdunk: RT @maritzavdh: Q5) Find passionate learners, equip them, celebrate them; Draw others in by growing existing passion. #lrnchat
10:46:30 am britz: RT @AndrewJacobsLD Q5 Stop using LMS. / move assets to portals #lrnchat
10:46:38 am urbie: @maritzavdh #lrnchat Q5 it’s easy to find passionate learners: they’re not sitting down
10:47:06 am maritzavdh: True that – they’re the ones doing stuff! RT @urbie: @maritzavdh #lrnchat Q5 it’s easy to find passionate learners: they’re not sitting down
10:47:30 am JaneBozarth: RT @britz: RT @AndrewJacobsLD Q5 Stop using LMS. / move assets to portals #lrnchat
10:47:36 am edCetraT: Q5) Simple. learning on demand #anan #lrnchat
10:47:44 am britz: @maritzavdh @klaceyd keep me posted on your school crusade – I am painfully watching the joy leave my 6yr olds face each day #lrnchat
10:47:44 am britz: @maritzavdh @klaceyd keep me posted on your school crusade – I am painfully watching the joy leave my 6yr olds face each day #lrnchat
10:48:00 am suevjones: So true“@C4LPT What prevents pple realising they r learning continuously is mindset that thinks learning only happens in classroom #lrnchat”
10:48:03 am maritzavdh: *sigh* Have to sign off #lrnchat – Sorry for the flyby folks. Hope to be spending more time on #lrnchat this year.
10:48:36 am urbie: #lrnchat when my kids were in elem. i noticed the best learning experiences were where the wickedest looking pumpkins were on Halloween
10:48:49 am lrnchat: For those of you lurking on #lrnchat — please please at least say hello!
10:48:56 am AndrewJacobsLD: @britz #lrnchat Exactly; we’ve added resources online and measure nothing except who enrols.
10:48:59 am nmdunk: RT @edCetraT: Q5) Simple. learning on demand #anan #lrnchat
10:49:07 am klaceyd: @britz @AndrewJacobsLD we have to keep our LMS for reporting compliance but using our launch pages to encourage autonomy too.. #lrnchat
10:49:28 am jowestonedes: @lrnchat Q5) give them peer coaching skills for just in time sharing and collaboration #lrnchat
10:50:31 am elearningguy: Hello! Been keeping an eye on the chat while working RT @lrnchat: For those of you lurking on #lrnchat — please please at least say hello!
10:50:42 am britz: @JaneBozarth Hey Jane! #lrnchat
10:50:45 am web20education: #edtech20 post #pinterest the best #socialmedia curation tool 4 your interests http://t.co/BToVZ0wl #edchat #ukedchat #fetc #cpchat #lrnchat
10:50:50 am suevjones: Definitely need to start remembering about #lrnchat #participationnotprocrastination
10:50:58 am cybershaz: RT @britz: RT @AndrewJacobsLD Q5 Stop using LMS. / move assets to portals #lrnchat
10:51:39 am clarionwave: Hello. Metrics angst? RT @lrnchat: For those of you lurking on #lrnchat — please please at least say hello!
10:52:46 am Iolazp48: #lrnchat when my kids were in elem. i noticed the best learning experiences were where the wickedest looking pum… http://t.co/U4bweiQi
10:52:46 am urbie: #lrnchat learning organizations can benefit from chocolate
10:53:40 am idol_era: RT @lrnchat: Q5) Rather than “manage” learning, how might you enable an open culture of discovery, sharing & collaboration? #lrnchat
10:53:43 am SimonSalento: RT @C4LPT: q4) Help them to see learning is a means to an end, not the end itself, and that the end goal is to improve performance #lrnchat
10:53:56 am idol_era: RT @C4LPT: q4) Help them to see learning is a means to an end, not the end itself, and that the end goal is to improve performance #lrnchat
10:54:23 am idol_era: “@edCetraT: Q4) involve. communicate. get social. #lrnchat” agree! Also make it easy for all!
10:54:27 am urbie: #lrnchat Q5 we have all we need to enable learning cultures beyond our wildest dreams: it’s all in how the puzzle pieces are put together
10:56:10 am klaceyd: RT @urbie: #lrnchat Q5 we have all we need to enable learning cultures beyond our wildest dreams: it’s all in how the puzzle pieces are put together
10:56:20 am klaceyd: @urbie I certainly do! #lrnchat
10:57:10 am C4LPT: q5) Help teams to deal with their own learning/perf problems – don’t do it for them – many can be solved w/o training – thru collab #lrnchat
10:57:53 am edCetraT: Gotta run! Glad 2have #lrnchat daytime:) shameless plug- #clouduc8 tweetchat Feb 1 12pm EST (accessibility vs design) #lrnchat
10:58:03 am ExpertusONE: @ShiftParadigm @demingSoS @lrnchat Thx for clarifying & for the exchange. Good stuff! Hope we cross paths again at future #lrnchat sessions
10:58:51 am alicatNT: Hello @lrnchat – am one of those lurkers. Came in part way thru. Interesting chat. Very early in morning here in Darwin Australia #lrnchat
10:58:52 am jmass: To all my #lrnchat peeps, join the #OfficeHours tweet chat now w/@DanielPink & @SusanCain. Call in info: http://t.co/5h2kW5ZX #OfficeHours
11:00:16 am vmc_teachers: Thanks for the mentions and nice #lrnchat! @Ariavivi @gminks @amberandgreene @ericwillbanks @jess1ecat
11:01:03 am idol_era: @alicatNT hehe midnight here in manila philippines! Trying to keep up though :-) agree good discussion #lrnchat
11:01:10 am C4LPT: @alicatNT Welcome from Darwin #lrnchat
11:01:34 am klaceyd: Thanks for today! First time participating and really enjoyed it. Shamless plug: Join us taking action on stroke @thestrokeassoc #lrnchat
11:02:35 am clarionwave: Just discovered #lrnchat doesn’t conflict with #innochat now. Great. Thx for sharing.
11:02:45 am britz: @maritzavdh @klaceyd love to. Let’s lock down date/time #lrnchat
11:02:47 am EmmanuelleEN: @lrnchat Q5) For teachers : focus on the vision/mission of educ – and see how best it can b attained w/ the world’s current tools #lrnchat
11:04:18 am lrnchat: Thank you for joining #lrnchat. We’ll post the transcript on http://t.co/O8x38OGR See you next Friday!
11:04:26 am alicatNT: RT @idol_era @alicatNT yes 1.30 am here but chat is great. Will pay for lack of sleep later #lrnchat
11:04:56 am C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Thank you for joining #lrnchat. Well post the transcript on http://t.co/467nygjy See you next Friday! #lrnchat

Welcome

January 20, 2012

#lrnchat is an online chat over the social messaging service Twitter. #lrnchat is on Thursdays at 8:30-9:30pm ET/5:30-6:30pm PT.

Participants are people interested in the topic of learning from one another and who want to discuss how to help other people learn in formal, informal, social and mobile ways. This summer we aim to renew our commitment to steer clear of topics that are more “training department” oriented (including topics around LMS and instructional design) and focus this time on rather on how people learn, what they learn, and what we’re learning.

The official Twitter account is @lrnchat. Learn more here. Instruction on how to #lrnchat are always available in the sidebar links.

The chats are transcribed to be read after the chats. The times listed in the transcript are based on which member of the #lrnchat moderation crew creates the transcript (and which time-zone they’re creating it from).

We look forward to learning with you.

Transcript 3 November 2011

November 4, 2011

08:30:53 pm lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been?
08:31:11 pm kelly_smith01: Big plate of hot wing in Mayberry conference room @#fakeDevLearn  use handi-wipes before typing please. #lrnchat
08:31:20 pm lrnchat: #lrnchat Tonight’s theme: supporting and connecting learners
08:31:31 pm olliegardener: @rosler that update goes VERY well with your avatar ;) #lrnchat
08:31:33 pm briandusablon: RT @lrnchat: #lrnchat Tonight’s theme: supporting and connecting learners
08:31:47 pm susannahrl: Trying #lrnchat “live” at #DevLearn. Got some pre-session performance support from @JaneBozarth
08:31:51 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: #lrnchat Tonight’s theme: supporting and connecting learners
08:31:52 pm nancyrubin: Ready for #lrnchat. Tonight’s theme: supporting and connecting learners #lrnchat
08:32:08 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: #lrnchat Tonight’s theme: supporting and connecting learners
08:32:21 pm lrnchat: QIntro) Please introduce yourself: WWW, interests, passions, concerns? #lrnchat
08:32:43 pm kelly_smith01: Q0) Enjoying back-channel play-byplay of #devlearn – #lrnchat
08:32:45 pm rjhogue: RT @lrnchat: #lrnchat Tonights theme: supporting and connecting learners #lrnchat
08:32:48 pm LisaAGoldstein: Live from #devlearn so double hashtagging QT @lrnchat: #lrnchat Tonight’s theme: supporting and connecting learners
08:32:52 pm britz: RT @lrnchat: #lrnchat Tonights theme: supporting and connecting learners / hmm, “learners”? cn’t we just say ppl? workers? #lrnchat
08:33:05 pm LnDDave: Tonight’s #lrnchat comes from #devlearn demofest: here’s a pano pic that shows the scale of the event http://t.co/0xbviKl6
08:33:06 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: QIntro) Please introduce yourself: WWW, interests, passions, concerns? #lrnchat
08:33:30 pm rjhogue: QIntro) Rebecca from Ottawa – PhD student – mLearning and MOOCs :) had a great time at mlearn2011 two weeks ago in Beijing #lrnchat
08:33:35 pm JaneBozarth: Hi folks from the #DevLearn Demofest floor . Well, not the floor really. I’m in a chair.  #lrnchat
08:33:43 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: QIntro) Please introduce yourself: WWW, interests, passions, concerns? #lrnchat
08:33:49 pm criticallearner: Welcome #devlearn folks to the #lrnchat activity stream. Jump on in. Water’s fine. David Glow, Tampa, FL
08:33:53 pm britz: @LnDDave Daaaaaaaaave! #lrnchat
08:34:05 pm atsc: #lrnchat Andrew Chambers from University of New South Wales, An educational developer. Looks an interesting theme… Long time since here…
08:34:11 pm chambo_online: What up #lrnchat! Coming to you live from #devlearn,! #Lrnchat
08:34:16 pm chris_saeger: Qintro) roanoke va, helping people reach their goals through learning #lrnchat
08:34:29 pm JaneBozarth: Jane,RDU,livin’ it up at the Aria.What I did at 3 http://t.co/Wqi5SdaK #lrnchat
08:34:32 pm asbergman: Qintro) Andy from Indianapolis, IN – Product Release Training Manager. First #lrnchat #lrnchat
08:34:33 pm sue_freeman1: @TriciaRansom #lrnchat  Let’s get this party started!
08:34:44 pm rosler: #lrnchat Q0) Shawn Rosler, developer, innovator, Captivater for a healthcare system in central PA.  shawnrosler.blogspot.com
08:34:47 pm meganbowe: #DevLearn #lrnchat weeee
08:34:51 pm TriciaRansom: Juiced up, got wine, seat, and table.  Ready to #lrnchat
08:35:08 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: QIntro) Please introduce yourself: WWW, interests, passions, concerns? #lrnchat
08:35:10 pm chris_saeger: @LnDDave Thanks for the backchannel. great work #lrnchat
08:35:10 pm chet_stevenson: Chester Stevenson, Instructional Designer/Trainer, Columbia, Missouri #lrnchat
08:35:12 pm kelly_smith01: Q0) Kelly Smith, freelancer – enjoying #devlearn chatter and #fakeDevLearn stuff – #lrnchat
08:35:25 pm HadiyaNuriddin: Q) 1 Intro #lrnchat I’m Hadiya, freelance ID in Chicago, living the ID dream, but ironically, first time lrnchatting.
08:35:28 pm lrnchat: Q0. What have you learned today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:35:48 pm susannahrl: Susannah, learning manager at Humana. Indoor rock climbing enthusiast and learning technology junkie #DevLearn #lrnchat
08:35:52 pm olliegardener: qintro) http://t.co/HcAGpJWb Passion: the potential of tech to facilitate, enable and engage learning in communities. #lrnchat
08:35:58 pm chambo_online: Much to the Bozarth’s joy, I am actually doing #lrnchat from an Apple product #Lrnchat
08:36:09 pm chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Q0. What have you learned today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:36:14 pm rjhogue: RT @lrnchat: Q0. What have you learned today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:36:14 pm LnDDave: @britz marrrrrrk!!! People miss you here man. #lrnchat
08:36:14 pm kelly_smith01: Q0)  Learned that is a patience is a virtue even if it does not feel like it. #lrnchat
08:36:15 pm innovativesarah: #lrnchat Q0) Sarah Bloomfield (Carr), OD consultant, ID, innovator, blogger at http://t.co/En4Uu6XU.  Chillin’ at #devlearn.
08:36:24 pm nancyrubin: attending #lrnchat from NY tonight. In the process of changing careers and locations. Twitterholic who is passionate about learning #lrnchat
08:36:28 pm stickylearning: Michael Eury, Learning Designer lurking in Melbourne Australia #lrnchat
08:36:48 pm alc47: Q0 that my fiends I’ ve never met before are wonderful people at DevLearn #Lrnchat
08:36:48 pm criticallearner: @LnDDave Thanks for the backchannel. great work #lrnchat > Seriously, indebted to you Mr. Kelly.
08:36:49 pm innovativesarah: #lrnchat Q0) I learned that content curation is the new content creation — and that I do more of it than I thought!
08:36:55 pm LisaAGoldstein: QT @TriciaRansom: Juiced up, got wine, seat, and table. Ready to #lrnchat Where are you?!? #devlearn
08:36:55 pm britz: Mark Britz, Mngr Learning Solutions, Syracuse NY … Eastern US site of #fakedevlearn. Yeah, that’s right we’re global! #lrnchat
08:37:00 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q0. What have you learned today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:37:00 pm TriciaRansom: This is Tricia, not in Chicago. I’m in Vegas baby!! #lrnchat
08:37:25 pm LearnNuggets: Kevin Thorn – NuggetHead Studioz – eLearning design #Lrnchat
08:37:26 pm kelly_smith01: @nancyrubin Congratulations on career change – keep Tweeting and posting links etc. #lrnchat
08:37:26 pm chris_saeger: Q0) am learning that there is life after work #lrnchat
08:37:27 pm Tracy_Parish: Tracy Parish, Newmarket, Ont. ID, LMS admin. Jill of all trades. #lrnchat participating from #devlearn
08:37:45 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q0. What have you learned today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:37:46 pm innovativesarah: RT @lrnchat: Q0. What have you learned today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:37:46 pm stickylearning: This week I’ve learnt that having your money riding on a horse that finishes second in the Melbourne Cup by just 2cm sucks! #lrnchat
08:37:48 pm rdeis: Ray Deis, Regina SK Canada. Live from the floor of DemoFest. Really on the floor all the chairs are taken. #Lrnchat
08:37:51 pm britz: @LnDDave Aww, thanks Dave – I have been feeling the love. My day will come. #lrnchat
08:37:55 pm nancyrubin: RT @innovativesarah: #lrnchat – learned that content curation is the new content creation — and I do more of it than I thought! #lrnchat
08:38:05 pm LisaAGoldstein: Lisa Goldstein, tweeting live from #devlearn!  #lrnchat
08:38:06 pm rjhogue: Q0) timezones are a pain at this time of year, with everyone changing off of Daylight savings on different weekends! #lrnchat
08:38:12 pm chet_stevenson: Q0) I conceptualized that Skills training>Quasi-Training>Awareness Training #lrnchat
08:38:19 pm briandusablon: Q0) Brian Dusablon. I live at Todd English Pub in Vegas. I care about usability and accessibility. And real beer. #Lrnchat
08:38:20 pm nancyrubin: @kelly_smith01 Thanks!!  #lrnchat
08:38:26 pm alc47: q0 I’ ve learned that Jane Bozarthzone is a really lovely supportive person! #Lrnchat
08:38:43 pm marciamarcia: Marcia Conner, founder of this party [err umm embedded learning opportunity], far from #devlearn, hearing great things. #lrnchat
08:38:46 pm LnDDave: ‚Äú@criticallearner: @LnDDave Thanks for the backchannel. great work #lrnchat > Seriously, indebted to you Mr. Kelly.‚Äù my pleasure… TRULY
08:38:47 pm TriciaRansom: Q0) I’ve learned that it’s a blast meeting fellow #lrnchat ers IRL!
08:38:50 pm briandusablon: Q0) I learned how to draw a clown from @learnnuggets.  #Lrnchat
08:38:56 pm MariaOD: Q0.Maria, OD Specialist from Columbus, Ohio>>What was in that drink that I got at demofest? #devlearn #lrnchat
08:38:58 pm susannahrl: RT @lrnchat: Q0. What have you learned today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:39:00 pm C4LPT: #lrnchat qintro) Jane Hart joining #lrnchat from #devlearn tonight #lrnchat
08:39:04 pm MMTingley: Q0) Melissa Tingley, eLearning ID consultant and general edu-geek, Boston trying to adjust to new keybpard ‘scuse the typos 2nite.
#lrnchat
08:39:10 pm HadiyaNuriddin: Q0) #lrnchat I learned that iSpring let’s you use triggers for animation. I think I have a crush.
08:39:11 pm s0ngb1rd: Q0 I’ve learned that there is such a thing as good southern hospitality #lrnchat
08:39:14 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat Q0> Learned I married one of Siegfried/Roy’s tigers at #fakedevlearn last night (sorry, missing #devlearn, must cr8 new reality)
08:39:48 pm LisaAGoldstein: RT @lrnchat: Q0. What have you learned today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:39:56 pm asbergman: Q0) Customer service is just as important in training as it is in any part of your organization.  #lrnchat
08:39:59 pm LearnNuggets: Q0) I learned how to say, “my feet hurt in Russian.” – “Voshi Nogi Bloyat” (I think that’s the spelling)
#Lrnchat
08:40:02 pm cammybean: #devlearn hanging at live #lrnchat!
08:40:02 pm LnDDave: David Kelly, training director from NYC, curator of #devlearn 2011 #lrnchat
08:40:09 pm b5alive: #lrnchat brian kalisch – nerd, gamer, wearer-of-many-hats for a non-profit. Been drinking from the firehose this week.
08:40:12 pm MariaOD: I learned that Jay Cross is ornery and kinda cute for a guy who wants to blow up the training department. #devlearn #lrnchat
08:40:13 pm chambo_online: Lisa Chamberlin freelance ID Walla Walla, WA and currently Las Vegas with a margarita by my side *drinking game* #Lrnchat
08:40:25 pm kelly_smith01: Q0) Found some new folks to follow on Twitter and blogs via #devlearn back channel #lrnchat
08:40:25 pm JaneBozarth: Q0 Learned more about design experiences, curation, and physics!   #lrnchat
08:40:27 pm meganbowe: Q0) I learned that a little pre-session prep goes a long way in successful back channeling #lrnchat
08:40:38 pm s0ngb1rd: Q0 Also that man and machine are becoming seamless #lrnchat
08:40:43 pm MMTingley: Q0) I learned that sometimes “no” is the right answer. #lrnchat
08:40:45 pm kasey428: #lrnchat Q0) I learnr
08:40:47 pm nancyrubin: Q0) Learned that faculty need ID support when developing courses. They may be OK teaching and using LMS but not really at design. #lrnchat
08:40:50 pm rdeis: Q0 The way we play today is the way we work tomorrow.  Design learning with that in mind. HT @tkspeaks #Lrnchat
08:40:54 pm JaneBozarth: @britz I’m not a ‘worker’, comrade. #lrnchat
08:40:57 pm ronindotca: Cameron Campbell, Canuck based in Christchurch NZ at Lincoln Uni. It’s a breezy spring day here, hi all #lrnchat
08:41:03 pm ChristyATucker: Christy Tucker, ID in NC, recently made the move to freelance #lrnchat
08:41:04 pm criticallearner: RT @mariaod: Learned that Jay Cross is ornery + kinda cute 4 a guy who wants to blow up the training department. #devlearn #lrnchat >awesome
08:41:05 pm britz: Q0) I learned I don’t tolerate org politics… never have. Just want some Autonomy, mastery & purpose …its what motivates me :) #lrnchat
08:41:16 pm chet_stevenson: @chambo_online How can you be online while you’re in Vegas? Something not right there. #lrnchat
08:41:21 pm briandusablon: Q0) I learned a lot from really smart people at #devlearn.  #Lrnchat
08:41:22 pm LnDDave: Q0) I learned that next year I’m going to skip DevLearn to attend #fakedevlearn 2012 on Mars. #lrnchat
08:41:23 pm dbolen: Don Bolen ATL hanging at #devlearn #Lrnchat
08:41:23 pm olliegardener: LoL RT @MariaOD: I learned that @jaycross’s ornery & kinda cute for a guy who wants to blow up the training department. #devlearn #lrnchat
08:41:28 pm susannahrl: Q0) I learned that learning tech folks have stopped saying “web 2.0″ because it’s just part of everyday life now #DevLearn #lrnchat
08:41:35 pm StephenCHudson: #lrnchat today I learned how to publish Flash to mobile devices at #DevLearn . Worth the price of admission in 1 hour. Thx @canadianpacman
08:41:36 pm agilistine: Q0) Learned that next year I want to go to #DevLearn #lrnchat
08:41:41 pm ronindotca: q0) I was reminded, once again, that IT departments should be called “The department for the suppression of innovation”. #lrnchat
08:41:42 pm NixTheNext: #lrnchat q0) becky from chicago, dev’er, loving #devlearn!
08:41:43 pm Tracy_Parish: RT @Tracy_Parish Learned that being able to do 300 clicks/mouse movements in 1 minute will make me a Starcraft champion #lrnchat @hybridkris
08:41:44 pm MariaOD: Q0. I learned that our librarians have been curating factual, useful, and good content for ages.  #lrnchat
08:41:58 pm asbergman: RT @britz: Q0) I learned I dont tolerate org politics, never have. Just want some Autonomy, mastery & purpose,its what motivates me #lrnchat
08:42:00 pm LearnNuggets: Q0) learned that everyone at #devlearn have the same challenges. Better design #Lrnchat
08:42:04 pm b5alive: Q0) I’ve learned that live #lrnchat is chaotic fun.
08:42:08 pm britz: @JaneBozarth learners of the world unite!  eh, just doesn’t have same punch ;) #lrnchat
08:42:08 pm marciamarcia: Today I learned that #pumpkinchunkin won’t be televised for another 11 days. @clarkeconner is heartbroken! #lrnchat
08:42:17 pm kelly_smith01: RT @LearnNuggets: Q0) learned that everyone at #devlearn have the same challenges. Better design #Lrnchat
08:42:18 pm nancyrubin: Hope you all will blog about your #devlearn experiences. It is great to read along with you all. (in addition to Twitter!)  #lrnchat
08:42:22 pm lrnchat: Q1 How can we help support learning in the workflow, rather than as separate formal event? #lrnchat
08:42:24 pm JaneBozarth: RT @ronindotca: q0)reminded, once again, that IT departments should be called “The department for the suppression of innovation”. #lrnchat
08:42:35 pm LearnNuggets: RT @ronindotca: q0) I was reminded, that IT departments should be called “The department for the suppression of innovation”. #Lrnchat
08:42:35 pm KateHawk216: Trying #lrnchat live @ #devlearn. Thanks 4 making me stay @ the table.
08:42:36 pm rjhogue: Question, is there an academic stream at devlearn?
#lrnchat
08:42:40 pm kasey428: Q0) I learned that my attention span is much shorter than I thought….info overload. #lrnchat
08:42:40 pm MMTingley: RT @britz: @JaneBozarth learners of the world unite!  eh, just doesnt have same punch ;) #lrnchat
08:42:46 pm chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Q1 How can we help support learning in the workflow, rather than as separate formal event? #lrnchat
08:42:46 pm innovativesarah: #lrnchat Q0) Yeah, DevLearn is great, but it’s sooo today.  #l2011 starts on Sunday :)
08:42:49 pm sue_freeman1: Q0 #lrnchat  working w/ manager-SMEs, trying to id right material & mode to communicate affective domain material – whoa!  Headache.
08:42:52 pm jwillensky: @britz It’s not too late. Speed to JFK. @LnDDave #lrnchat
08:42:56 pm rosler: #lrnchat  #DevLearn In person, rockin the LearnChat… http://t.co/932PvG4E
08:42:56 pm rjhogue: RT @lrnchat: Q1 How can we help support learning in the workflow, rather than as separate formal event? #lrnchat
08:42:59 pm LnDDave: Some of the #lrnchat regulars participating live from #devlearn http://t.co/u9oUdf7T
08:42:59 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q1 How can we help support learning in the workflow, rather than as separate formal event? #lrnchat
08:43:03 pm dbolen: Q0 learned that #devlearn is a lot of work! Long hours!  #Lrnchat
08:43:03 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q1 How can we help support learning in the workflow, rather than as separate formal event? #lrnchat
08:43:04 pm chambo_online: Q0) I learned that “Vegas Blocks”are much longer than any other city block. #feethurt #Lrnchat
08:43:07 pm ChristyATucker: Q0) I learned that sometimes you just have to tell a client no. Gently. #lrnchat
08:43:21 pm olliegardener: RT @rjhogue: RT @lrnchat: Q1 How can we help support learning in the workflow, rather than as separate formal event? #lrnchat
08:43:25 pm MariaOD: Q0. I learn that HR/OD/L&D are all trying to solve the same business problem.  Let’s work together.  #lrnchat
08:43:27 pm ChristyATucker: RT @lrnchat: Q1 How can we help support learning in the workflow, rather than as separate formal event? #lrnchat
08:43:30 pm NixTheNext: RT @KateHawk216 Trying #lrnchat live @ #devlearn. Thanks 4 making me stay @ the table.<welcome!
08:43:31 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q1 How can we help support learning in the workflow, rather than as separate formal event? #lrnchat
08:43:34 pm kasey428: @chambo_online How well I know #lrnchat
08:43:34 pm susannahrl: RT @lrnchat: Q1 How can we help support learning in the workflow, rather than as separate formal event? #lrnchat
08:43:35 pm kelly_smith01: RT @ronindotca: q0) I was reminded,  again, that IT departments should be called “The dept. for the suppression of innovation”. #lrnchat
08:43:37 pm LnDDave: ‚Äú@chris_saeger: @LnDDave Thanks for the backchannel. great work #lrnchat‚Äù << glad it’s appreciated.
08:43:41 pm MariaOD: RT @criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q1 How can we help support learning in the workflow, rather than as separate formal event? #lrnchat
08:43:44 pm rjhogue: Q1) better usability for tools … funny that usability best practices are known, put often not used! #lrnchat
08:43:46 pm C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q1 How can we help support learning in the workflow, rather than as separate formal event? #lrnchat
08:43:52 pm chet_stevenson: Q1) Performance Support, and enable leaders to support their employees learning on the job. #lrnchat
08:43:54 pm cammybean: #devlearn Live #lrnchat happening now. http://t.co/Bn5YknIA
08:43:56 pm atsc: #lrnchat Q0) Learned the power of linkedin for creating networks…
08:43:59 pm alc47: Q1 By positioning ourselves in the workflow – that way we understand #Lrnchat
08:44:05 pm NixTheNext: RT @LnDDave: Some of the #lrnchat regulars participating live from #devlearn http://t.co/u9oUdf7T
08:44:06 pm marciamarcia: First up: RT @lrnchat: Q1 How can we help support learning in the workflow, rather than as separate formal event? #lrnchat
08:44:07 pm JaneBozarth: Q1. Listen.  #lrnchat
08:44:11 pm ronindotca: Oh, and I also learned that there is something past jealous… I found this out after reading #develearn posts #lrnchat
08:44:18 pm ChristyATucker: Q1) Can we start by identifying where learning is already happening in the workflow? #lrnchat
08:44:21 pm ryantracey: Ryan from Sydney, g’day all #lrnchat
08:44:28 pm StephenCHudson: #lrnchat intro – participating live at #DevLearn – I do flash development for HR and manage an LMS.
08:44:29 pm asbergman: Q1) creating workflow plans (that you understand) that match the competencies of the work being done by learners. #lrnchat
08:44:34 pm criticallearner: How many people at #devlearn will drink when I type ADDIE? #lrnchat (you’re welcome)
08:44:39 pm chambo_online: Q1) use your platform -whatever it is- to hold your just in time content. #Lrnchat
08:44:42 pm nancyrubin: Q1) Provide real- time training/learning opps (and apps ;-)   – let them access info when they need it where they need it.  #lrnchat
08:44:48 pm britz: RT @LnDDave: Some of the regulars participating live from #devlearn http://t.co/MbPitrfg / Great pic of the master’s at work #lrnchat
08:44:48 pm innovativesarah: Q1) Make learning part of the experience so you don’t break the flow, meaning less formal (and harder for us to “measure,” sadly). #lrnchat
08:44:53 pm susannahrl: ‚Äú@JaneBozarth: Q1. Listen.  #lrnchat‚Äù amen!
08:45:11 pm kelly_smith01: Q1. Embed “learning” into job.  Performance support etc.  #lrnchat
08:45:14 pm urbie: #lrnchat urbie delgado, instructional designer, FLETC New Mexico, focus: re-humanizing elearning experience
08:45:17 pm MariaOD: Q1: Who’s the expert in the workflow? How are employees finding information and support? #lrnchat
08:45:20 pm dbolen: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1. Listen. ABSOLUTELY #Lrnchat
08:45:30 pm chet_stevenson: RT @innovativesarah: Q1) Make learning part of the experience so you dont break the flow, meaning less formal #lrnchat
08:45:32 pm asbergman: RT @nancyrubin: Q1) Provide real-time training/learning opps & apps  – let them access info when they need it where they need it.  #lrnchat
08:45:34 pm britz: RT @ChristyATucker: Q1) Can we start by identifying where learning is already happening in the workflow? / pave the cow path! #lrnchat
08:45:35 pm criticallearner: Q1> What do they use when working? Go right there. #lrnchat
08:45:37 pm LearnNuggets: Q1) Let go. The formal workflow doesn’t work much anymore #Lrnchat
08:45:38 pm nancyrubin: RT @kelly_smith01: Q1. Embed “learning” into job.  Performance support etc.  #lrnchat
08:45:38 pm ryantracey: Q1) Access to knowledge/info/content at the point of need, when it’s needed #lrnchat
08:45:44 pm kasey428: Q1)A simple employee support system in the form of a wiki or info database that one can access from the intranet or browser tab #lrnchat
08:45:45 pm s0ngb1rd: Q1 Think ‘support’ ‘guidance’and ‘responsiveness’  #lrnchat
08:45:46 pm klowey22: q1- connect people to people (through culture, process and tools) #lrnchat
08:45:50 pm LnDDave: ‚Äú@jwillensky: @britz It’s not too late. Speed to JFK. @LnDDave #lrnchat‚Äù Speed and JFK are concepts that don’t mesh well…
08:45:51 pm briandusablon: I’m out. Going to enjoy these people IRL while I can. Enjoy! #Lrnchat
08:45:51 pm MMTingley: Q1) Access to information. They not only need it, but need to know how to find it. #lrnchat
08:46:03 pm kasey428: RT @LearnNuggets: Q1) Let go. The formal workflow doesnt work much anymore #lrnchat
08:46:04 pm JaneBozarth: Q1 Find conversations: where are they talking w each other about perofrmance issues.  #lrnchat
08:46:05 pm stickylearning: Q1 it’s a large part cultural & a smaller part providing simple tools to find the knowledge people need #lrnchat
08:46:09 pm olliegardener: RT @klowey22: q1- connect people to people (through culture, process and tools) #lrnchat
08:46:09 pm innovativesarah: RT @nancyrubin: Q1) Provide real- time training/learning opps (and apps ;-)   – let them access info when they need it where they need it.  #lrnchat
08:46:10 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1. Listen.  #lrnchat
08:46:19 pm kasey428: RT @klowey22: q1- connect people to people (through culture, process and tools) #lrnchat
08:46:23 pm susannahrl: #lrnchat Q)1 make sure we are actually giving learners what they need and make available for EASY on demand access
08:46:32 pm rosler: Q1) By fostering an environment where mistakes are viewed as learning events rather than problems. #lrnchat
08:46:35 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q0 what have i learned today? Learned that #DevLearn is a must-do experience for someone like me .. how to do next year?
08:46:41 pm NixTheNext: Q1 link to performance support materials in workflow documentation. link performance support to cbt & SoMe channels #devlearn #lrnchat
08:46:47 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) design to help ppl overcome a challenge in-the-moment, rather than to pass an assessment. #lrnchat
08:46:48 pm asbergman: Especially social platform tools … RT @klowey22: q1- connect people to people (through culture, process and tools) #lrnchat
08:46:52 pm MariaOD: Q1) Make learning invisible. Like electricity. It’s everywhere but nowhere. #michiokaku #lrnchat
08:46:55 pm britz: RT @MMTingley: Q1) Access to information. They not only need it, but need to know how to find it. / Access to ppl is key #lrnchat
08:47:01 pm criticallearner: Q1> Go where they work. Combine with the tools (sticker on fire extinguisher > thorough user manual) #lrnchat
08:47:01 pm rjhogue: @LearnNuggets I’m not sure I agree that it doesn’t work anymore … in some organizations they want formal learning/networking #lrnchat
08:47:04 pm rdeis: Q1 Ask people how they would like to access the learning or what barriers are in their way.  #Lrnchat
08:47:07 pm ryantracey: Redefines what it means to learn – RT @MMTingley Q1) Access to information. They not only need it, but need to know how to find it. #lrnchat
08:47:08 pm asbergman: RT @rosler: Q1) By fostering an environment where mistakes are viewed as learning events rather than problems. #lrnchat
08:47:11 pm C4LPT: #lrnchat q1 build on what’s already happening
08:47:13 pm olliegardener: q1) by starting with the individual and what they need now to GTD.  #lrnchat
08:47:16 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q1 how can we help support learning in the workflow rather than as a separate formal event?
08:47:21 pm ChristyATucker: Yes! RT @rosler: Q1) By fostering an environment where mistakes are viewed as learning events rather than problems. #lrnchat
08:47:21 pm Tracy_Parish: #lrnchat http://t.co/NoBT0IMJ Happening now!
08:47:22 pm LearnNuggets: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) design to help ppl overcome a challenge in-the-moment, rather than to pass an assessment. #Lrnchat
08:47:29 pm stickylearning: RT @MariaOD: Q1) Make learning invisible. Like electricity. It’s everywhere but nowhere. #michiokaku #lrnchat
08:47:31 pm StephenCHudson: Q1) social learning will help with integrated learning. People are learning all the time, embrace it and assist – #lrnchat
08:47:33 pm LnDDave: Q1) if learners need to stop working to start learning… Start over. #lrnchat
08:47:33 pm HadiyaNuriddin: Q1) #lrnchat Encourage a culture of experimentation on the job. Boy, will you learn quick.
08:47:35 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) View learning/performance improvement as a pull event or user-driven (on-going) event. #lrnchat
08:47:37 pm olliegardener: RT @asbergman: RT @rosler: Q1) By fostering an environment where mistakes are viewed as learning events rather than problems. #lrnchat
08:47:37 pm kburpee: RT @LnDDave: Tonight’s #lrnchat comes from #devlearn demofest: here’s a pano pic that shows the scale of the event http://t.co/0xbviKl6
08:47:46 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) make job aids and performance support tools easy to find and in the moment…not buried 19 clicks deep in an LMS.  #lrnchat
08:47:49 pm rjhogue: @MMTingley I’d go one step further .. make information EASY to find… not buried …  #lrnchat
08:47:51 pm LnDDave: RT @LearnNuggets: Q1) Let go. The formal workflow doesn’t work much anymore #Lrnchat
08:48:07 pm MMTingley: RT @stickylearning: RT @MariaOD: Q1) Make learning invisible. Like electricity. Its everywhere but nowhere. #michiokaku #lrnchat
08:48:12 pm chambo_online: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1 Find conversations: where are they talking w each other about perofrmance issues.  #Lrnchat
08:48:13 pm LearnNuggets: RT @C4LPT: #lrnchat q1 build on whats already happening < Yes! And build in the ‘now’ #Lrnchat
08:48:16 pm LisaAGoldstein: Q1) My mind has been heavily on wikis and other ways learners can share through social tools. #Lrnchat
08:48:24 pm C4LPT: #lrnchat q1) liberate your courses from the LMS so they they can be used as desired / required
08:48:30 pm JaneBozarth: Q1 Watch for opps to solve problems, not “train” .  #lrnchat
08:48:30 pm TriciaRansom: RT @LnDDave: Q1) if learners need to stop working to start learning… Start over. #lrnchat
08:48:30 pm NixTheNext: @MariaOD electricity is truly nowhere at #devlearn- at least electric outlets! #lrnchat
08:48:31 pm asbergman: Seen any success with this? RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) design to help ppl overcome a challenge in-the-moment, rather than to pass a test #lrnchat
08:48:34 pm ryantracey: Q1) Social learning is key to the workflow #lrnchat
08:48:34 pm ChristyATucker: Q1) I wonder if teaching people better search skills would help learning in the workflow. #lrnchat
08:48:36 pm EternalLearner: RT @C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q1 How can we help support learning in the workflow, rather than as separate formal event? #lrnchat
08:48:44 pm britz: Q1) support/encourage user-generated content efforts and the channels to share it #lrnchat
08:48:51 pm nancyrubin: q1) Provide way for learners to share what they are learning to benefit others in the org.  #lrnchat
08:48:52 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q1 spend some time in the shoes of your target population of learners and ask where the pain meets the workflow.
08:49:02 pm susannahrl: RT @TriciaRansom: RT @LnDDave: Q1) if learners need to stop working to start learning… Start over. #lrnchat
08:49:03 pm b5alive: Q1) Stop treating it as a separate event. #lrnchat
08:49:04 pm MMTingley: Searchable. Tags are imortant. @rjhogue:  Id go one step further .. make information EASY to find… not buried …  #lrnchat
08:49:05 pm denniscallahan: Hi all – dropping in for a bit #lrnchat
08:49:05 pm marciamarcia: To learn in workflow: talk about surprises, share workarounds & improvements, change how work flows next time. #lrnchat
08:49:07 pm ChristyATucker: @LisaAGoldstein Yes, I’m thinking wikis too. Makes the information easier to find, update, search. #lrnchat
08:49:10 pm rosler: #lrnchat Honey Badger will devour your eLearning’s face.
08:49:10 pm criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat and more importantly, give them what they need to build 4 themselves (let go control/enable).
08:49:16 pm EternalLearner: RT @LnDDave: Q1) if learners need to stop working to start learning… Start over. #lrnchat
08:49:22 pm alc47: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1 Watch for opps to solve problems, not “train” . Help people do what they have to do #Lrnchat
08:49:24 pm NixTheNext: RT @LnDDave: Q1) if learners need to stop working to start learning… Start over. #lrnchat
08:49:24 pm LearnNuggets: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1 Watch for opps to solve problems, not “train” .  #Lrnchat
08:49:30 pm nancyrubin: Not just search – tagging, too. RT @ChristyATucker: I wonder if teaching people search skills would help learning in the workflow. #lrnchat
08:49:30 pm kasey428: @asbergman Yes, passing a test means nothing! It means you cam take tests or are a good guesser. #lrnchat
08:49:37 pm JaneBozarth: RT @rosler: #lrnchat Honey Badger will devour your eLearnings face. #lrnchat
08:49:42 pm klowey22: RT @LearnNuggets: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1 Watch for opps to solve problems, not “train” .  #Lrnchat
08:49:44 pm olliegardener: q1) By moving from delivery of content to enabling context rich know.sharing, social lrn & mutual support on the job #lrnchat
08:49:48 pm kasey428: RT @rosler: #lrnchat Honey Badger will devour your eLearnings face. #lrnchat
08:49:49 pm rjhogue: RT @ChristyATucker: Q1) I wonder if teaching people better search skills would help learning in the workflow. #lrnchat
08:49:49 pm TriciaRansom: @asbergman In my happy place! #lrnchat
08:49:49 pm denniscallahan: Q1) watch a master performer in the workflow, how are they getting what they need? #lrnchat
08:49:53 pm fggutierrez: RT @C4LPT: #lrnchat q1) liberate your courses from the LMS so they they can be used as desired / required
08:50:03 pm MariaOD: Q1: Give learners the tools and the support…then ‘get the heck out of the way’. Let them work. #lrnchat
08:50:04 pm olliegardener: RT @alc47: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1 Watch for opps to solve problems, not “train” . Help people do what they have to do #lrnchat
08:50:06 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q1 make quick-start job-aids learners use as take-aways from a class to help them remember (how to apply) what they just learned
08:50:10 pm asbergman: RT @kasey428: @asbergman Yes, passing a test means nothing! It means you cam take tests or are a good guesser. #lrnchat
08:50:11 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Move away from “learning” as a leader-centric event and more of at-time-of-need or at-time-desired by performer/end-user. #lrnchat
08:50:14 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat Q1> And for pete’s sake, don’t trap it on a moated-castle LMS deployment design (BAD ID! BAD!)
08:50:18 pm LearnNuggets: RT @criticallearner: Q1> give them what they need to build 4 themselves (let go control/enable). < “Let go” is the future. #Lrnchat
08:50:21 pm olliegardener: RT @susannahrl: RT @TriciaRansom: RT @LnDDave: Q1) if learners need to stop working to start learning… Start over. #lrnchat
08:50:29 pm meganbowe: Honey badger doesn’t learn chat, look at @LnDDave #lrnchat #DevLearn http://t.co/4hrgXn4l
08:50:38 pm MariaOD: RT @olliegardener: RT @alc47: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1 Watch for opps to solve problems, not “train”.Help people do what they have to do #lrnchat
08:50:40 pm alc47: @nancyrubin Learned to day that search is dead – better to use Twitter and ask questions! #Lrnchat
08:50:58 pm criticallearner: RT @learnnuggets: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1 Watch for opps to solve problems, not “train” .  #Lrnchat
08:51:02 pm NixTheNext: RT @criticallearner: #lrnchat Q1> And for pete’s sake, don’t trap it on a moated-castle LMS deployment design (BAD ID! BAD!)
08:51:08 pm LnDDave: Q1) realize that it’s not about you… #lrnchat
08:51:08 pm olliegardener: RT @LearnNuggets @criticallearner: give them what they need 2 build 4 themselves (let go control/enable). < “Let go” is the future. #lrnchat
08:51:08 pm chambo_online: Honey badger is the new Chuck Norris #Lrnchat
08:51:08 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Careful with job aids. Some job aids should be faded while other job aids are permanent. #lrnchat
08:51:11 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) Design courses that teach ppl to solve common challenges. #lrnchat
08:51:29 pm meganbowe: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q1 How can we help support learning in the workflow, rather than as separate formal event? #lrnchat
08:51:31 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q1 integrate your courses with easy to use (and drop-dead simple to maintain) LMS; they can’t take it (course) if they can’t find.
08:51:32 pm criticallearner: RT @alc47: @nancyrubin Learned to day that search is dead – better to use Twitter and ask questions! #Lrnchat >YES!!
08:51:32 pm chambo_online: RT @criticallearner: #lrnchat Q1> And for petes sake, dont trap it on a moated-castle LMS deployment design (BAD ID! BAD!) #Lrnchat
08:51:41 pm mamaier262: “@cammybean: #devlearn hanging at live #lrnchat!” =(
08:51:45 pm audioswhite: RT @LnDDave: ‚Äú@chris_saeger: @LnDDave Thanks for the backchannel. great work #lrnchat‚Äù << glad it’s appreciated.
08:51:46 pm nancyrubin: @alc47 I still believe in search – has worked well for me to this point (and I still use my RSS reader, too!) along with Twitter.  #lrnchat
08:51:50 pm StephenCHudson: “@ChristyATucker: Q1) I wonder if teaching people better search skills would help learning in the workflow. #lrnchat” > I often wonder that2
08:51:59 pm britz: Q1) Move from LMSs to Portals #lrnchat
08:52:03 pm meganbowe: @chambo_online damn straight #lrnchat
08:52:03 pm susannahrl: RT @urbie: #lrnchat Q1 integrate your courses with easy to use (and drop-dead simple to maintain) LMS; they can’t take it (course) if they can’t find.
08:52:04 pm audioswhite: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1. Listen.  #lrnchat
08:52:04 pm LisaAGoldstein: If tweets are slower than normal it is because there is more talking than typing at #live #lrnchat at #devlearn http://t.co/vcZF2Ewr
08:52:24 pm alc47: @TriciaRansom Are courses part of helping people’s performance – not so sure! #Lrnchat
08:52:25 pm Musicmosaic1: First time @ #lrnchat … the all-in-one training unit here….learned how to program 360degree, 3D interactions this week.  #lrnchat
08:52:40 pm criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat And (out of box thinking)- comb workflow for data to understand performance issues in workflow (analytics)
08:52:43 pm chet_stevenson: @LisaAGoldstein Trick is to get learners to actually use those tools. #lrnchat
08:52:43 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q1 use story (actual front-line stories are best) that learners can identify with and learn from. it’s the (learning) experience
08:52:48 pm ryantracey: Search + Twitter = :o ) #lrnchat
08:53:01 pm rdeis: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1 Watch for opps to solve problems, not “train” .  #Lrnchat
08:53:08 pm denniscallahan: Q1) try to make the workflow as open & fluid as possible to allow for adjustments (learning) #lrnchat
08:53:08 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) stop designing courses. Teach ppl to solve problems. #lrnchat
08:53:10 pm LearnNuggets: RT @audioswhite: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1. Listen. < that also means to stop talking #Lrnchat
08:53:13 pm LnDDave: RT @britz: Q1) Move from LMSs to Portals #lrnchat
08:53:14 pm rosler: Hashtag much??? #lrnchat RT @KateHawk216: Honey badger invented elearning. @jaycross  (@rosler told me to do it)
08:53:17 pm rjhogue: @alc47 if you have a dispersed work force, courses are often a chance for people to come together f2f and share ideas #lrnchat
08:53:19 pm sue_freeman1: ‚Äú@C4LPT: #lrnchat q1) liberate your courses from the LMS to be used as desired / required‚Äù AND re-use – let’s be efficient AND creative!
08:53:21 pm kelly_smith01: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) stop designing courses. Teach ppl to solve problems. #lrnchat
08:53:23 pm ilearnatwork: Q1) Let go of the need to ‘track’ and ‘report’ #lrnchat
08:53:25 pm innovativesarah: RT @LnDDave: Q1) realize that it’s not about you… #lrnchat
08:53:27 pm odguru: RT @britz: Q1) Move from LMSs to Portals #lrnchat
08:53:30 pm ChristyATucker: RT @rdeis: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1 Watch for opps to solve problems, not “train” .  #lrnchat
08:53:36 pm NixTheNext: RT @Musicmosaic1: First time @ #lrnchat … the all-in-one training unit here….learned how to program 360degree, 3D interactions this week.  #lrnchat
08:53:38 pm olliegardener: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) stop designing courses. Teach ppl to solve problems. #lrnchat
08:53:47 pm MMTingley: @Musicmosaic1 Yay! Hi Michael! #lrnchat
08:53:58 pm EternalLearner: I look forward to YouTube “honey badger” to learn more ‚Äú@chambo_online: Honey badger is the new Chuck Norris #Lrnchat‚Äù
08:54:06 pm denniscallahan: ‚Äú@rdeis: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1 Watch for opps to solve problems, not “train” .  #Lrnchat‚Äù
08:54:08 pm alc47: RT @sue_freeman1: ‚Äú@C4LPT: #lrnchat q1) liberate your courses from the LMS  #Lrnchat
08:54:14 pm stickylearning: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) stop designing courses. Teach ppl to solve problems. #lrnchat
08:54:14 pm LnDDave: Q1) try to remove the word ‘course’ from vocabulary; doing so will help you remove it from your learning structure. #lrnchat
08:54:17 pm LearnNuggets: RT @LnDDave: RT @britz: Q1) Move from LMSs to Portals < Honey Badger don’t like no LMS #Lrnchat
08:54:19 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q1 develop instructions, standards and templates so motivated members of the population develop/design/train alongside you.
08:54:22 pm chambo_online: Addie Addie Addie Addie Addie. What honey badger does inVegas gets tweeted from vegas! #Lrnchat
08:54:30 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) ask ppl what they need, how they need it, and when they need it. Listen to their answers and then implement. #lrnchat
08:54:39 pm JaneBozarth: …and then Honey Badger showed up with a flask of rye….  #lrnchat
08:54:40 pm LearnNuggets: RT @LnDDave: Q1) try to remove the word course from vocabulary; doing so will help you remove it from your learning structure. #Lrnchat
08:54:53 pm criticallearner: RT @lnddave: Q1) try to remove the word ‘course’ from vocabulary; doing so will help you remove it from your learning structure. #lrnchat
08:55:05 pm JaneBozarth: Why are we talking about courses?  #lrnchat
08:55:06 pm TriciaRansom: RT @LnDDave: Q1) try to remove the word ‘course’ from vocabulary; doing so will help you remove it from your learning structure. #lrnchat
08:55:08 pm ryantracey: Former for formal, latter for informal? RT @britz Q1) Move from LMSs to Portals #lrnchat
08:55:13 pm asbergman: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) ask ppl what they need, how they need it, and when they need it. Listen to their answers and then implement. #lrnchat
08:55:16 pm britz: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) Design courses tht teach ppl 2 solve common challenges. / Rather connect ppl 2 ppl who’ve overcome challenges #lrnchat
08:55:29 pm alc47: @LearnNuggets Stop talking about learning – talk performance support instead #Lrnchat
08:55:31 pm audioswhite: Q1) for many it requires some covert ninja type effort to move “corporate” culture to actual “work” culture #Lrnchat
08:55:34 pm lrnchat: Q2 How are you personally demonstrating your own learning in the flow of work? #lrnchat
08:55:36 pm marciamarcia: Sometimes you need to learn 4only long enough to do the work. Check if “how to” on @youtube, start doing fast.  #lrnchat
08:55:38 pm rjhogue: Whats with the anti course focus tonight? Courses have their place … as does performance support …
#lrnchat
08:55:39 pm LnDDave: RT @JaneBozarth: Why are we talking about courses?  #lrnchat
08:55:40 pm chris_saeger: @alc47 If tweets are slower than normal it is because there is more talking than typing <what can we learn from that? :-)   #lrnchat
08:55:41 pm bkkevy: I can’t hear the #lrnchat from my demofest table. #devlearn
08:55:48 pm TriciaRansom: May I say it’s really hard to think/type/talk at the same time! #lrnchat
08:55:53 pm stickylearning: Q1 get rid of the training department #lrnchat
08:56:04 pm chambo_online: RT @lrnchat: Q2 How are you personally demonstrating your own learning in the flow of work? #Lrnchat
08:56:05 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q1 LMSs have a bad rep .. maybe it’s your particular LMS?
08:56:08 pm chet_stevenson: That’s gatta be some kinda party foul @chambo_online What honey badger does inVegas gets tweeted from vegas! #lrnchat
08:56:09 pm criticallearner: q1> #lrnchat be a business person first, L&D pro second.
08:56:13 pm JaneBozarth: Y’all stop with  the courses talk or @alc47 will break. you.  #lrnchat
08:56:18 pm susannahrl: RT @lrnchat: Q2 How are you personally demonstrating your own learning in the flow of work? #lrnchat
08:56:20 pm alc47: @bkkevy Hang on we’ll shout louder! #Lrnchat
08:56:29 pm TriciaRansom: I don’t understand? RT @lrnchat: Q2 How are you personally demonstrating your own learning in the flow of work? #lrnchat
08:56:30 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q2 How are you personally demonstrating your own learning in the flow of work? #lrnchat
08:56:35 pm StephenCHudson: ‚Äú@ilearnatwork: Q1) Let go of the need to ‘track’ and ‘report’ #lrnchat‚Äù > then how do you justify the training department? #buttsinseats
08:56:36 pm ryantracey: +1 RT @rjhogue: Whats with the anti course focus tonight? Courses have their place … as does performance support …  #lrnchat
08:56:38 pm stickylearning: RT @lrnchat: Q2 How are you personally demonstrating your own learning in the flow of work? #lrnchat
08:56:40 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q2 How are you personally demonstrating your own learning in the flow of work? #lrnchat
08:56:42 pm ChristyATucker: RT @lrnchat: Q2 How are you personally demonstrating your own learning in the flow of work? #lrnchat
08:56:43 pm JaneBozarth: RT @bkkevy: I cant hear the #lrnchat from my demofest table. #devlearn #lrnchat
08:56:58 pm b5alive: Q2) Lots of Star Wars analogies. #lrnchat
08:56:59 pm marciamarcia: People are learning in the flow of work all the time. Question is how to support them learning more & sharing. #lrnchat
08:57:03 pm alc47: Yeah but only if you arevsmallerbthan me! RT @JaneBozarth: Yall stop with  the courses talk or @alc47 will break. you.  #Lrnchat
08:57:06 pm LisaAGoldstein: Often answering, “why” RT @susannahrl: RT @lrnchat: Q2 How are you personally demonstrating your own learning in the flow of work? #Lrnchat
08:57:06 pm Musicmosaic1: @TriciaRansom I agree…I’ve been trying to chat, talk on the phone, and follow the tweets simultaniously #lrnchat
08:57:10 pm rjhogue: RT @lrnchat: Q2 How are you personally demonstrating your own learning in the flow of work? #lrnchat
08:57:13 pm asbergman: +2 RT @rjhogue: Whats with the anti course focus tonight? Courses have their place … as does performance support …  #lrnchat
08:57:15 pm britz: RT @TriciaRansom: May I say its really hard to think/type/talk at the same time! / Talk is cheap …cut that & focus on the other 2 #lrnchat
08:57:16 pm LearnNuggets: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) ask what they need, how they need it & when they need it. Listen for answers. < that word ‘listen’ again #Lrnchat
08:57:22 pm ilearnatwork: Q2) sharing and applying my ‘learnings’.  by being innovative, not ‘the same as always’ #lrnchat
08:57:26 pm sue_freeman1: ‚Äú@TriciaRansom: Q1) stop designing courses. Teach ppl to solve problems. #lrnchat‚Äù  I think everyone enjoys problem-solving!  Fun learning!
08:57:26 pm criticallearner: RT @urbie: #lrnchat Q1 LMSs have a bad rep .. maybe it’s your particular LMS? > More “how LMSs are used”, just like PPT.
08:57:29 pm LisaAGoldstein: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @bkkevy: I cant hear the #lrnchat from my demofest table. #devlearn #Lrnchat
08:57:34 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q1 understated at best, out-of-mind at worst: design accessible learning experiences that are useable by all.
08:57:45 pm olliegardener: q1) place indiv @ the center – start with supporting their work & lrng. KM, Curation, mutual support are offshoots that scale #lrnchat
08:57:48 pm chambo_online: Look, Honeybadger is actually tweeting from an iPad…I have stretched my skills…and now I am reaching for my glass. #Lrnchat
08:57:50 pm rosler: Honey Badger approves of #lrnchat shenanigans.
08:57:51 pm odguru: Q2) Try not to make the same mistake twice… #lrnchat.
08:57:55 pm HadiyaNuriddin: Q1) #lrnchat Designers need to know how the learner works, where they go, who do they talk to, when and why. Sometimes we assume to much.
08:58:07 pm Musicmosaic1: @MMTingley Hi Melissa! What did you learn today? #lrnchat
08:58:07 pm rjhogue: Q2) I blog … but my “flow of work” is academic and mostly online … so it is a great way to share my learning #lrnchat
08:58:13 pm audioswhite: RT @marciamarcia: People are learning in the flow of work all the time. Question is how to support them learning more & sharing. #lrnchat
08:58:13 pm JaneBozarth: I offer to lead book discussions. I use things I learn about (google docs, workd time buddy) in my workday  #lrnchat
08:58:16 pm ryantracey: Q2) I populate wikis with content I know I will need again in future :o P #lrnchat
08:58:21 pm susannahrl: ‚Äú@TriciaRansom: May I say it’s really hard to think/type/talk at the same time! #lrnchat‚Äù #newlifeskill
08:58:37 pm TriciaRansom: @britz Like the connecting ppl idea! #lrnchat
08:58:41 pm denniscallahan: Q1) sometimes the right support is no support #lrnchat
08:58:41 pm ChristyATucker: Q2) When I research tools or topics for work, I bookmark with @Diigo so I can find what I learned later #lrnchat
08:58:44 pm mojotillett: #lrnchat live from #devlearn http://t.co/B0TEZHxq
08:58:50 pm alc47: q2 By offering my own obsvations and insights for others to consider #Lrnchat
08:58:55 pm JaneBozarth: I apply new design skills.  #lrnchat
08:58:55 pm MMTingley: Q2) Needs assessment is where I do most of my learning within my own workflow.  #lrnchat
08:58:56 pm StephenCHudson: Q2) I have a personal blog (internal) where I discuss the things I learned in new projects. Maybe someday someone will read it #lrnchat
08:58:58 pm EternalLearner: Quickly solving challenges with the help of my global contacts! Q2 #lrnchat”
08:58:59 pm marciamarcia: I work, I learn, I share it with you, I learn more from you as a result, I can then do better work & learn more. #lrnchat
08:59:03 pm britz: Q2) I built great #PLN that I tap into on multiple devices throughout the day…inspiring, educating and (solution) generating! #lrnchat
08:59:03 pm TriciaRansom: Yikes! Just realized that we’re on a big screen! #lrnchat
08:59:11 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q2 I use story in all my courses; when I meet with customers in design meetings prime them on story: engaging experiences teach.
08:59:19 pm TriciaRansom: And sip wine  RT @susannahrl: ‚Äú@TriciaRansom: May I say it’s really hard to think/type/talk at the same time! #lrnchat‚Äù #newlifeskill
08:59:24 pm asbergman: Q2 always trying to be a SME or resource for the learners  #lrnchat
08:59:36 pm rjhogue: Q2) The other way is through conversations with colleagues … sharing experiences .. #lrnchat
08:59:39 pm kasey428: @marciamarcia, hello we miss you #lrnchat
08:59:40 pm alc47: @JaneBozarth please include the Q no. In your tweets!!!! #Lrnchat
08:59:57 pm Tracy_Parish: RT @britz: Q2) I built great #PLN that I tap into on multiple devices throughout the day…inspiring, educating and (solution) generating! #lrnchat
08:59:57 pm criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat Demo-ing my learning by applying more efficient methodologies with each progressive implementation (better code, deeper data)
09:00:00 pm MMTingley: Q2) Not only learning about the topic,  but the audience, and the prob;em that requires solving
#lrnchat
09:00:06 pm dougdevitre: Q2) implementing then  seeking immediate feedback on how to be better and not focus on what went wrong #lrnchat
09:00:18 pm LisaAGoldstein: DemoFest! #lrnchat #devlearn http://t.co/Gs9JapDG
09:00:18 pm LnDDave: “@kasey428: @marciamarcia, hello we miss you #lrnchat” << ditto
09:00:22 pm rjhogue: q2) I tweet my blog posts to hashtags that I think will be interested … increases readership :) #lrnchat
09:00:22 pm olliegardener: How 2 enable & 2 scale RT @marciamarcia: Ppl r learning in the flow of work all the time. Q’s how 2 support them lrn more & sharing #lrnchat
09:00:23 pm chambo_online: Seriously q2) I connect with others who are smarter than me wherever I find them (hello PLN) and they stretch and challenge me #Lrnchat
09:00:23 pm kasey428: RT @JaneBozarth: I apply new design skills.  #lrnchat
09:00:28 pm odguru: RT @nancyrubin: @alc47 I still believe in search – has worked well for me to this point (and I still use my RSS reader, too!) along with Twitter.  #lrnchat
09:00:28 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q2 talk about mistakes, misses, take ownership of “oopsies” with customers and peers. do post-mortems as well as celebrations.
09:00:37 pm criticallearner: RT @asbergman: Q2 always trying to be a SME or resource for the learners  #lrnchat
09:00:38 pm rosler: Q2) If my own flow of work involves educating an end user, I can share my mistakes while learning what it is I teach… #lrnchat
09:00:38 pm Musicmosaic1: @asbergman As the person who gets in the trenches, the designer always will be an SME. #lrnchat
09:00:39 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) Use PLN , search tools, #lrnchat contacts to identify new tools and practices. #lrnchat
09:00:45 pm stickylearning: Q2 every new design job means new ideas, skills, knowledge #lrnchat
09:00:45 pm MMTingley: Yes! RT @urbie: #lrnchat Q2 I use story in all my courses… engaging experiences teach. #lrnchat
09:00:45 pm chambo_online: RT @kasey428: @marciamarcia, hello we miss you #Lrnchat
09:00:46 pm odguru: RT @MariaOD: Q1) Make learning invisible. Like electricity. It’s everywhere but nowhere. #michiokaku #lrnchat
09:00:48 pm NixTheNext: Q2 Different cxn methods within team… I’ll make a podcast for my co-dev’ers and share just the link instead of emailing a tip #lrnchat
09:01:14 pm NixTheNext: RT @britz: Q2) I built great #PLN that I tap into on multiple devices throughout the day…inspiring, educating and (solution) generating! #lrnchat
09:01:18 pm LearnNuggets: RT @rosler: Q2) If my own flow of work involves educating an end user, I can share my mistakes while learning what it is I teach… #Lrnchat
09:01:18 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q2 I use my iPad in as many aspects of my instructional design work as possible, esp. when meeting with SMEs. Model tech practices.
09:01:18 pm JaneBozarth: RT @urbie talk about mistakes, misses, take ownership of “oopsies” with customers and peers.do post-mortems as well as celebrations #lrnchat
09:01:27 pm criticallearner: RT @chambo_online: Seriously q2)  connect w/others smarter than me wherever I find them (hello PLN) and they stretch +challenge me #Lrnchat
09:01:32 pm Musicmosaic1: RT @odguru: RT @MariaOD: Q1) Make learning invisible. Like electricity. Its everywhere but nowhere. #michiokaku #lrnchat
09:01:33 pm JaneBozarth: RT @MariaOD: Q1) Make learning invisible. Like electricity. Its everywhere but nowhere. #michiokaku #lrnchat
09:01:36 pm georgekroner: @C4LPT or use LMS to share & reuse course packages that include content, forum topics, & tests/quizzes? #lrnchat http://t.co/vVMq2hYs
09:01:47 pm klowey22: q2) social project mgmt, emergent leadership, slowly move from email to social tools, many other informal learning methods… #lrnchat
09:01:50 pm marciamarcia: So what are *you* doing to share with people that *you’re* learning, not just talkin about orgs’s learning? #lrnchat
09:01:52 pm rdeis: Q2 I share what I learn and encourage others to do the same. #Lrnchat
09:01:59 pm sue_freeman1: ‚Äú@britz: Q2) … #PLN that I tap into on multiple devices throughout the day…inspiring…” #lrnchat‚Äù AMEN to that – & thank you, Jane! :)
09:02:13 pm cammybean: Q7b-part2) What design theory best represents your personality? #fakelrnchat  #lrnchat HT to @bschlenker #devlearn
09:02:13 pm alc47: great simile RT @JaneBozarth: RT @MariaOD: Q1) Make learning invisible. Like electricity. Its everywhere but nowhere. #michiokaku #Lrnchat
09:02:14 pm StephenCHudson: Q2) I also make better products, applying the things I learn. Portfolio improvement is a great thing to see. #lrnchat
09:02:14 pm kasey428: RT @bkkevy: I cant hear the #lrnchat from my demofest table. #devlearn #lrnchat
09:02:14 pm kelly_smith01: Here we are at  #FakeDevLearn participating in #lrnchat  http://t.co/4QS6Oswv
09:02:16 pm JaneBozarth: RT @urbie useiPad in as many aspects of my instructional design work as possible, esp. when meeting with SMEs.Model tech practices. #lrnchat
09:02:18 pm NixTheNext: RT @marciamarcia: So what are *you* doing to share with people that *you’re* learning, not just talkin about orgs’s learning? #lrnchat
09:02:19 pm meganbowe: Q2) by finishing my work… Properly #DevLearn #lrnchat
09:02:22 pm s0ngb1rd: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @MariaOD: Q1) Make learning invisible. Like electricity. Its everywhere but nowhere. #michiokaku #lrnchat
09:02:23 pm MariaOD: Q2:I listen with genuine interest, meet them where they are, and give them tools to help solve problems. #lrnchat
09:02:46 pm LearnNuggets: Q2) we all have experiences and tell that story to friends & families. Tell stories in your learning design #Lrnchat
09:02:47 pm b5alive: RT @rdeis Q2 I share what I learn and encourage others to do the same. #Lrnchat
09:03:01 pm kelly_smith01: RT @LearnNuggets: Q2) we all have experiences and tell that story to friends & families. Tell stories in your learning design #Lrnchat
09:03:07 pm criticallearner: RT @stephenchudson: Q2) I also make better products, applying the things I learn. Portfolio improvement is a great thing to see. #lrnchat
09:03:12 pm asbergman: RT @MariaOD: Q1) Make learning invisible. Like electricity. Its everywhere but nowhere. #michiokaku #lrnchat
09:03:18 pm MMTingley: RT @MariaOD: Q2:I listen with genuine interest, meet them where they are, and give them tools to help solve problems. #lrnchat
09:03:20 pm LisaAGoldstein: Another view of live #lrnchat from #DevLearn http://t.co/H4U62u56
09:03:25 pm alc47: @MariaOD Q 2 Give or offer or suggest?
#Lrnchat
09:03:28 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q2 forget about “not designed here or by me”: ask for help; form communities of practice (in/out of org) read blogs n comment
09:03:34 pm britz: Q2) I proudly tell coworkers “I learned that through my Twitter network” early on I got blank stares …NOW they want in! #lrnchat
09:03:38 pm nancyrubin: Q2) Always learning myself – try to set a good example – share what I learn and what I know with whoever will listen ;-) #lrnchat
09:04:00 pm olliegardener: q2) I connect with ppl that are on a similar path to myself, and actively search for opps 4 mutual support.  #lrnchat
09:04:05 pm NixTheNext: q1 sample: I learned about agile dec at @dbolen session, gonna form a scrum when I get back to tackle old maintenance #devlearn #lrnchat
09:04:13 pm criticallearner: RT @MariaOD: Q1) Make learning invisible. Like electricity. Its everywhere but nowhere. #michiokaku #lrnchat <3
09:04:31 pm CynthiaMedinaM: RT @learning2011 A 4 Minute Welcome Video for MASIE Learning 2011 Participants http://t.co/tJgEK4qi  Design :)   #elearning #L2011 #lrnchat
09:04:34 pm HadiyaNuriddin: Q2) #lrnchat Push the tools to the limits, it must be possible. If you hit a wall, fake it, but know when to cry uncle.
09:04:40 pm audioswhite: RT @britz: Q2) I built great #PLN that I tap into on multiple devices throughout the day…inspiring, educating and (solution) generating! #lrnchat
09:04:41 pm susannahrl: “@kelly_smith01: Q2) Use PLN , search tools, #lrnchat contacts to identify new tools and practices. #lrnchat” ditto
09:04:42 pm alc47: RT @olliegardener: q2) I connect with ppl that are on a similar path to myself, and actively search for opps 4 mutual support.  #Lrnchat
09:04:52 pm LearnNuggets: RT @LisaAGoldstein: Another view of live #lrnchat from #DevLearn http://t.co/8DUV8wuS < and we’re LIVE! #Lrnchat
09:04:58 pm LnDDave: Q2) I ask questions, and share the answers. #lrnchat
09:05:11 pm criticallearner: q2> As a more experienced developer in the group I share my wisdom (aka prior screw ups) and stay with them as they experiment #lrnchat
09:05:21 pm asbergman: YES! RT @HadiyaNuriddin: Push the tools to the limits, it must be possible. If you hit a wall, fake it, but know when to cry uncle. #lrnchat
09:05:21 pm chambo_online: RT @LearnNuggets: Q2) we all have experiences and tell that story to friends & families. Tell stories in your learning design #Lrnchat
09:05:24 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q2 if possible locate yourself with the people you support.
09:05:25 pm rosler: #lrnchat Honey Badger won DemoFest.  Yesterday.
09:05:26 pm TriciaRansom: What is q2? I’m all discombobulated! #lrnchat
09:05:32 pm chambo_online: RT @LnDDave: Q2) I ask questions, and share the answers. #Lrnchat
09:05:36 pm EternalLearner: RT @LearnNuggets: Q2) we all have experiences and tell that story to friends & families. Tell stories in your learning design #Lrnchat
09:05:41 pm marciamarcia: RT @nancyrubin: Q2 Always learning myself, try to set a good example, share what I learn & what I know with whoever will listen ;-) #lrnchat
09:05:46 pm LisaAGoldstein: For the #fakedevlearn -ers #lrnchat #DevLearn http://t.co/Ou4GGYMw
09:05:49 pm rdeis: RT @britz: Q2) I proudly tell coworkers “I learned that through my Twitter network” early on I got blank stares…NOW they want in! #Lrnchat
09:06:07 pm dbolen: Off topic – the Aaron Silvers #lrnchat flash for serious drinking games http://t.co/9B6PPprf
09:06:07 pm mojotillett: RT @olliegardener: q2) I connect with ppl that are on a similar path to myself, and actively search for opps 4 mutual support.  #lrnchat
09:06:11 pm LearnNuggets: RT @LnDDave: Q2) I ask questions, and share the answers. < Listening and sharing. I see a meme forming #Lrnchat
09:06:12 pm chambo_online: Honeybadger FTW! #Lrnchat
09:06:23 pm kasey428: Q2) my PLN is a go-to source  and I try to play in kind #lrnchat
09:06:26 pm sue_freeman1: ‚Äú@britz: Q2) … “I learned that through my Twitter network” & got blank stares …NOW they want in! #lrnchat  THAT’S where I wanna be!
09:06:28 pm marciamarcia: @TriciaRansom Q2 is on how do you personally share w/ others that you are learning as you work. #settingexample #lrnchat
09:06:43 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q2 get on a first name basis with the people you support. don’t think of ‘em as customers: reduce abstractions .. they’re people.
09:06:45 pm s0ngb1rd: #lrnchat must dash…its been brief but insightful…adieu :)
09:06:49 pm MMTingley: I don’t know why, but I am less jealous of the DevLearn group since they are not really in a bar like the last time…
#lrnchat
09:06:53 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) I talk with the ppl who take my courses, not their managers. #lrnchat
09:07:05 pm odguru: RT @dbolen: Off topic – the Aaron Silvers #lrnchat flash for serious drinking games http://t.co/9B6PPprf
09:07:07 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) Break the bounds of the three-ring binder and page-turning e-learning.  #lrnchat
09:07:12 pm chrisstjohn: Listen and silent have the same letters #lrnchat
09:07:25 pm JaneBozarth: When twitter solves a problem, I take screenshot and send to boss #lrnchat
09:07:37 pm audioswhite: “@LnDDave: Q2) I ask questions, and share the answers. #lrnchat” < yes, start informally face2face and move to wirearchy
09:07:48 pm EternalLearner: “Use the force, Luke” haha  ‚Äú@JaneBozarth: RT @MariaOD: Q1) Make learning invisible. Like electricity. Its everywhere but nowhere #lrnchat‚Äù
09:07:49 pm nancyrubin: Wishing I was at #devlearn and promising myself I will not miss it next year. While tweeting is fun – I wish I was there IRL. #lrnchat
09:07:52 pm marciamarcia: Ooh ahh! RT @chrisstjohn: Listen and silent have the same letters #lrnchat
09:07:59 pm LisaAGoldstein: The big picture of #DemoFest at #DevLearn for #LrnChat http://t.co/ySNsPFdx
09:08:02 pm larrystraining: RT @JaneBozarth: When twitter solves a problem, I take screenshot and send to boss #lrnchat <—love it!
09:08:03 pm rupalli_thacker: @marciamarcia I consider coaching and mentoring great tools to learn on the job..while in practice!#lrnchat
09:08:07 pm Tracy_Parish: I learned I should move beyond the seem and as the learners more today #Lrnchat  @LearnNuggets
09:08:08 pm MMTingley: RT @JaneBozarth: When twitter solves a problem, I take screenshot and send to boss #lrnchat
09:08:16 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: When twitter solves a problem, I take screenshot and send to boss #lrnchat   <—- Like here – say cheese
09:08:17 pm OpenSesameNow: RT @criticallearner: RT @urbie: #lrnchat Q1 LMSs have a bad rep .. maybe it’s your particular LMS? > More “how LMSs are used”, just like PPT.
09:08:19 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q2 big big big: don’t go off half-cocked. the goal is to make what you do repeatable, sustainable. document & share. peer-review 2
09:08:32 pm leonardocsouza: RT @marciamarcia: Ooh ahh! RT @chrisstjohn: Listen and silent have the same letters #lrnchat
09:08:37 pm NixTheNext: http://t.co/1q92tOAI Shirley Temple at #devlearn #lrnchat
09:08:55 pm criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat Show where broken: where you can get an answer from twitter or google on a phone quicker than co-supplied tools
09:08:59 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) When my PLN answers my question, I shout it from the rooftops and ask if they have a PLN too. #lrnchat
09:09:16 pm LearnNuggets: @Tracy_Parish Beyond the seem. I like that. #Lrnchat
09:09:27 pm hybridkris: Hey, you #lrnchat folks at #DevLearn know that you can actually, you know, talk to each other, right?
09:09:40 pm chrisstjohn: Use my iPad to access #lrnchat no matter where i am…
09:09:42 pm NixTheNext: .@criticallearner … Wisdom, aka prior screw ups… nice #lrnchat
09:09:44 pm rdeis: RT @chrisstjohn: Listen and silent have the same letters.  #Lrnchat
09:09:48 pm olliegardener: as an entrepreneur I depend on collaboration beyond teamwork. Info w/out context’s worthless in this scenario. Choose tools wisely #lrnchat
09:09:50 pm marciamarcia: So often sharing what we’re learning means the specifics, not the theory, “I learned Y today.” #lrnchat
09:09:55 pm LisaAGoldstein: We need a live roll call at these two long tables… Who is at the other end of the table from me? #devlearn  #Lrnchat
09:10:03 pm kasey428: RT @chrisstjohn: Use my iPad to access #lrnchat no matter where i am… #lrnchat
09:10:32 pm lrnchat: Q3 How can we find conversations about performance,requests for help, what workers are talking about, as it’s happening? #lrnchat
09:10:38 pm sue_freeman1: I’m infiltrating my presentation w/ Twitter learnings – what a great, diverse, fast resource!! #lrnchat
09:10:41 pm ryantracey: I still get incredulous stares – RT @britz Q2) “I learned that through my Twitter network” … early on I got blank stares #lrnchat
09:10:43 pm alc47: @LisaAGoldstein Which end are you? I’m at one end! #Lrnchat
09:10:46 pm criticallearner: @nixthenext Experience is the best teacher. She grades first, gives the lesson after #lrnchat
09:10:46 pm asbergman: RT @olliegardener: I depend on collab beyond teamwork. Info w/out contexts worthless in this scenario. Choose tools wisely #lrnchat
09:10:49 pm britz: Live! from #fakedevlearn http://t.co/w268wLsc ….yes, that is a sit-n-spin in background (they gave ‘em out on day 1) #devlearn #lrnchat
09:10:55 pm TriciaRansom: @LisaAGoldstein where are you? #lrnchat
09:10:56 pm susannahrl: “@hybridkris: Hey, you #lrnchat folks at #DevLearn know that you can actually, you know, talk to each other, right?” sounds unreasonable
09:10:59 pm LnDDave: Q2) I work on my search skills – Google, PLN, Social Networks – so that I can find Solutions to work issues quickly. #lrnchat
09:10:59 pm kelly_smith01: Q3 How can we find conversations about performance,requests for help, what workers are talking about, as it’s happening? #lrnchat
09:11:00 pm denniscallahan: Q2) I show or explain what I learned so others can see how it help them too. Then, they share and so on…#lrnchat
09:11:08 pm rjhogue: RT  Q3 How can we find conversations about performance,requests for help, what workers are talking about, as its happening? #lrnchat
09:11:15 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q3 How can we find conversations re performance,requests for help, what workers are talking about, as it’s happening? #lrnchat
09:11:16 pm susannahrl: RT @lrnchat: Q3 How can we find conversations about performance,requests for help, what workers are talking about, as it’s happening? #lrnchat
09:11:22 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q3 How can we find conversations abt performance,requests for help, what workers are talking about, as it’s happening? #lrnchat
09:11:24 pm OpenSesameNow: Hi #DevLearn & #lrnchat! Joining you from the Las Vegas airport, on my way home. Sad to miss the live crew!
09:11:28 pm kasey428: Q3) Yammer is used in my company. Micro-blogging of any kind. #lrnchat
09:11:54 pm jmarrapodi: RT @britz: Live! from #fakedevlearn http://t.co/w268wLsc ….yes, that is a sit-n-spin in background (they gave ‘em out on day 1) #devlearn #lrnchat
09:12:01 pm britz: RT @lrnchat: Q3 How can we find conversations about performance,requests for help, what workers are talking abt, as its happening? #lrnchat
09:12:03 pm audioswhite: RT @britz: Live! from #fakedevlearn http://t.co/w268wLsc ….yes, that is a sit-n-spin in background (they gave ‘em out on day 1) #devlearn #lrnchat
09:12:06 pm MariaOD: RT @lrnchat: Q3 How can we find conversations abt performance,requests for help, what workers are talking about, as its happening? #lrnchat
09:12:15 pm ryantracey: Same goes – RT @kasey428: Q3) Yammer is used in my company. Micro-blogging of any kind. #lrnchat
09:12:15 pm Tracy_Parish: RT @kasey428: Q3) Yammer is used in my company. Micro-blogging of any kind. #lrnchat
09:12:16 pm stickylearning: @LisaAGoldstein The #lrnchat table goes all the way to me down in Australia
09:12:16 pm atsc: #lrnchat Q2) PLN like most people. Still twitter based. I email solutions internally. But LinkedIn can work too with private groups.
09:12:18 pm nancyrubin: q3) Provide way for learners to ask questions and share ideas – IDEA Exchanges, YouTube channels, guest blog posts on intranet… #lrnchat
09:12:18 pm JaneBozarth: Q3 How can we find conversations about performance,requests for help, what workers are talking about, as its happening? #lrnchat
09:12:19 pm asbergman: Q3) Ask the right questions, around the water cooler, twitter, informal hallway convos #lrnchat
09:12:22 pm NixTheNext: RT @criticallearner: @nixthenext Experience is the best teacher. She grades first, gives the lesson after #lrnchat
09:12:23 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q3 How can we find conversations about performance,requests for help, what workers are talking about, as it’s happening? #lrnchat
09:12:24 pm npmaven: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @MariaOD: Q1) Make learning invisible. Like electricity. Its everywhere but nowhere. #michiokaku #lrnchat
09:12:25 pm MariaOD: @OpenSesameNow good seeing you. Have a safe flight! #lrnchat
09:12:25 pm klowey22: RT @lrnchat: Q3 How can we find conversations abt performance,requests for help, what workers are talking about, as its happening? #lrnchat
09:12:30 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) If your enterprise has an internal social media platform – read internal blogs.  #lrnchat
09:12:31 pm criticallearner: q3> #lrnchat Engage in the communities (they are your customers).
09:12:33 pm b5alive: Q3) Use the Google. Or the Twitters. #lrnchat
09:12:42 pm marciamarcia: For the record, I’m wildly impressed with the #devlearn participants chatting IRL & here simultaneously. #lrnchat
09:12:51 pm denniscallahan: Q3) you have to be where the work is happening, listen, watch, ask questions #lrnchat
09:12:54 pm rosler: Q3)  By analyzing your audience and listening. #lrnchat
09:13:00 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q2 volunteer. work with people you don’t usually interact with. go outside your box. Like STEM: http://t.co/WQ0niq9i @ewrobelen
09:13:19 pm npmaven: RT @LnDDave: Q2) I work on my search skills – Google, PLN, Social Networks – so that I can find Solutions to work issues quickly. #lrnchat
09:13:22 pm asbergman: RT @denniscallahan: Q3) you have to be where the work is happening, listen, watch, ask questions #lrnchat
09:13:25 pm atsc: #lrnchat Q3) A private lInkedIn group. Just sent one up yesterday for our distance education developers.
09:13:39 pm MMTingley: Q3) Jive and IM #lrnchat
09:13:46 pm chambo_online: Q3 How can we find conversations about performance,requests for help, what workers are talking about, as its happening? #Lrnchat
09:13:46 pm EternalLearner: RT @marciamarcia: For the record, I’m wildly impressed with the #devlearn participants chatting IRL & here simultaneously. #lrnchat
09:13:47 pm agilistine: Q3) Diigo for information sharing, Basecamp for project mgmt collaboration #lrnchat
09:13:55 pm Tracy_Parish: Sit with coworkers at lunch. Listen to the frontline workers and what the are talking about. #lrnchat
09:13:57 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) Get invited to design meeting, marketing sessions, talk, take people to lunch or Starbucks,  #Lrnchat
09:14:01 pm marciamarcia: RT @denniscallahan: Q3) you have to be where the work is happening, listen, watch, ask questions #lrnchat
09:14:02 pm alc47: Q3 Not sure I understand the Q but would talking to them anywhere, any time, any how get close? #Lrnchat
09:14:05 pm criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat Data data data. Not “person X put checkbox for completion in course Y” but  analytics, trends, top searches, and biz results
09:14:08 pm rosler: Exactly –> RT @denniscallahan: Q3) you have to be where the work is happening, listen, watch, ask questions #lrnchat
09:14:12 pm StephenCHudson: Q3) we are lucky enough to have internal social media (socialcast) where people can share, ask, and learn. #lrnchat
09:14:20 pm HadiyaNuriddin: Q3) #lrnchat Listen, eavesdrop, spy, ask. But confirm with multiple sources. Hit the data from all sides. I’ve been led astray many times.
09:14:24 pm nancyrubin: q3) Break down silos! Create cross functional teams. Create social space where learners are comfortable sharing without fear.  #lrnchat
09:14:27 pm urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q3 How can we find conversations about performance,requests for help, what workers are talking about, as it’s happening? #lrnchat
09:14:30 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) I squat in an empty cube in midst of my learners and put in headphones w/volume off. Then I LISTEN. #lrnchat
09:14:31 pm TriciaRansom: Uh-oh.  I killed my twitter! #lrnchat
09:14:33 pm britz: Q3) I implemented Yammer in org. Incredible collaboration/sharing happening. I just sit back and watch the learning grow! #lrnchat
09:14:42 pm MMTingley: I didn’t know you could do that, thanks! RT @atsc: #lrnchat Q3) A private lInkedIn group. Just sent one up yesterday  #lrnchat
09:14:47 pm MariaOD: Q3: Once we had a discussion in the bathroom stall. >>everywhere..ask..listen #lrnchat
09:15:01 pm klowey22: q3 – earning understanding that we ‘work out loud’ (share as much as possible/appropriate) #lrnchat
09:15:03 pm asbergman: RT @TriciaRansom: Q3) I squat in an empty cube in midst of my learners and put in headphones w/volume off. Then I LISTEN. #lrnchat
09:15:04 pm audioswhite: Q3) here is an old fashion approach I use, I walk around and talk to my production team at their desks, at least 2 times a day #Lrnchat
09:15:08 pm MMTingley: RT @TriciaRansom: Q3) I squat in an empty cube in midst of my learners and put in headphones w/volume off. Then I LISTEN. #lrnchat
09:15:08 pm rdeis: RT @denniscallahan: Q3) you have to be where the work is happening, listen, watch, ask questions >> Amen #Lrnchat
09:15:17 pm britz: @TriciaRansom that borders on creepy :) #lrnchat
09:15:24 pm chambo_online: Q3)as in most things…observe and listen #Lrnchat
09:15:25 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q3 best way: talk (a lot) less and listen (a lot more). the people you support are experiencing pain, frustration.
09:15:29 pm olliegardener: q3) By providing a space (physical or virtual) where ppl feel comfortable, supported & valued for asking Qs. Connect & enable #lrnchat
09:15:33 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) Pose non-directed questions to co-workers to gauge their performance-related concerns.  #Lrnchat
09:15:44 pm TriciaRansom: Mind out the gutter! RT @britz: @TriciaRansom that borders on creepy :) #lrnchat
09:15:55 pm C4LPT: RT @britz: Q3) I implemented Yammer in org. Incredible collaboration/sharing happening. I just sit back and watch the learning grow! #lrnchat
09:15:59 pm criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat When folks say “listen” I get it, but there are great tools to really get fingers on the pulse of communities/trends/results
09:16:00 pm LisaAGoldstein: @mojotillett Making the rounds at #devlearn live #lrnchat http://t.co/4bMZkYNX
09:16:07 pm Tracy_Parish: RT @urbie: #lrnchat Q3 best way: talk (a lot) less and listen (a lot more). the people you support are experiencing pain, frustration.
09:16:12 pm atsc: @denniscallahan:Q3 you have to be where the work is happening, listen, watch, ask questions #lrnchat but work happens everywhere in big orgs
09:16:16 pm nancyrubin: Would love to have a #lrnchat on learning analytics – a new obsession of mine. What is worth tracking and what actions do we take? #lrnchat
09:16:23 pm EternalLearner: RT @LnDDave: Q2) I work on my search skills – Google, PLN, Social Networks – so that I can find Solutions to work issues quickly. #lrnchat
09:16:36 pm alc47: @olliegardener we’re you listening to my session #devlearn today  – creepy! #Lrnchat
09:16:38 pm susannahrl: Abandoning #lrnchat in search of dinner with @StephenCHudson and @marykayd farewell!
09:16:41 pm chambo_online: RT @urbie: #lrnchat Q3 best way: talk (a lot) less and listen (a lot more). —>2 ears 1 mouth theory…listen 2x as much as talk #Lrnchat
09:16:54 pm olliegardener: q3) Our job’s not 2 “catch” Qs & deliver As, but 2 enable ppl 2 connect around issues, provide mutual support & 2 collaborate #lrnchat
09:17:23 pm criticallearner: @nancyrubin #lrnchat check out work of SOLAR, http://t.co/yER8cfVs, and George Siemens.
09:17:24 pm denniscallahan: Q3) live a day in the life of your customer, what does it really feel like #lrnchat
09:17:25 pm stickylearning: Q3 easy-ish in small workspaces, very very hard in national businesses with 1000s of sites & no internal social places #lrnchat
09:17:26 pm t2009daniels: RT @JaneBozarth: When twitter solves a problem, I take screenshot and send to boss #lrnchat
09:17:28 pm agilistine: @nancyrubin agreed. that would be a great topic #lrnchat
09:17:39 pm olliegardener: @alc47 not sure I picked up on the creepy bit!! ??
#lrnchat
09:17:45 pm chambo_online: Listen to @aaronsilvers and track the metrics of the activity stream #Lrnchat
09:17:54 pm kelly_smith01: RT @chambo_online: Listen to @aaronsilvers and track the metrics of the activity stream #Lrnchat
09:17:54 pm IdeaLearning: RT @EternalLearner: “Use the force, Luke” haha  ‚Äú@JaneBozarth: RT @MariaOD: Q1) Make learning invisible. Like electricity. Its everywhere but nowhere #lrnchat‚Äù
09:18:03 pm MariaOD: Q3. Listening online doesn’t mean lurking. Listening means filtering, curating, and sharing #lrnchat
09:18:08 pm OpenSesameNow: @lrnchat Lurk near water coolers, conference rooms and the vending machines to overhear  juicy conversations! #lrnchat
09:18:11 pm Tracy_Parish: @olliegardener great point on connecting ppl. #lrnchat
09:18:17 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) I ask the help desk to share with me their most commonly asked questions. #lrnchat
09:18:28 pm kelly_smith01: RT @TriciaRansom: Q3) I ask the help desk to share with me their most commonly asked questions. #lrnchat
09:18:28 pm nancyrubin: @criticallearner I am a big fan of George’s. Just saw him at Educause and loved his preso. Hoping to attend his conference, too. #lrnchat
09:18:29 pm criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat I think the shift of analytics for learning is moving from “CYA/accountability” to “real understanding for supporting ppl”
09:18:30 pm alc47: @olliegardener would psychic female intuition fit better? This is hilarious #Lrnchat
09:18:54 pm asbergman: Spot on! RT @olliegardener: Our jobs not 2 “catch” Qs & deliver As, but 2 enable ppl 2 connect around issuses, provide support  #lrnchat
09:19:00 pm jmarrapodi: Goodness! Would someone from #devlearn go help out? RT @MoxziDotCom guess who still isn’t coming up on #lrnchat? http://t.co/d5wvCgst
09:19:11 pm criticallearner: RT @chambo_online: Listen to @aaronsilvers and track the metrics of the activity stream #Lrnchat > BINGO George Siemens too.
09:19:13 pm LearnNuggets: RT @OpenSesameNow: @lrnchat Lurk near water coolers, conference rooms and the vending machines to overhear  juicy conversations! #Lrnchat
09:19:16 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) Some companies track “red flag” incidents – incidents that slow or stop a process – review these. #Lrnchat
09:19:20 pm olliegardener: For the record – twitter is now solving the problem. People you connect with THROUGH twitter are! #lrnchat
09:19:31 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) I love SoMe tools so I can “hear” watercooler convos in cyberspace. #lrnchat
09:19:35 pm MariaOD: @triciaransom, yes! Build partnership with IT esp. helpdesk. they have data you can use.. #lrnchat
09:19:36 pm stickylearning: RT @olliegardener: q3) Our job’s not 2 “catch” Qs & deliver As, but 2 enable ppl 2 connect around issues, provide mutual support & 2 collaborate #lrnchat
09:19:53 pm criticallearner: RT @olliegardener: Our jobs not 2 “catch” Qs & deliver As, but 2 enable ppl 2 connect around issuses, provide support  #lrnchat
09:19:55 pm JD_Dillon: RT @criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat I think the shift of analytics for learning is moving from “CYA/accountability” to “real understanding for supporting ppl”
09:19:58 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q3 I’m 1500 miles n 2 time zones away from my nearest peer. so i team with the agents i support. they know more that we let on.
09:20:13 pm criticallearner: RT @kelly_smith01: Q3) Some companies track “red flag” incidents – incidents that slow or stop a process – review these. #Lrnchat >Pareto!
09:20:14 pm rdeis: RT @TriciaRansom: Q3) I ask the help desk to share with me their most commonly asked questions.>> Me too. Good for the big orgs. #Lrnchat
09:20:30 pm HadiyaNuriddin: Q3) #lrnchat Learn about what similar companies are doing and their challenges. Your learners are precious, but not unique.
09:20:34 pm criticallearner: RT @triciaransom: Q3) I love SoMe tools so I can “hear” watercooler convos in cyberspace. #lrnchat > YES, analytics/trends
09:20:36 pm chrisstjohn: Encourage and enable. Not command and control. #lrnchat
09:20:37 pm denniscallahan: RT @atsc #lrnchat but work happens everywhere in big orgs <yes, but u have to start somewhere. Being big gives u more opportunities :)
09:20:39 pm ryantracey: Q3) It’s amazing what you can learn via a good ol’ conversation. #lrnchat
09:20:41 pm lrnchat: Q4 How can we help talent pools/expertise find and connect with one another? #lrnchat
09:20:58 pm britz: Give me a pic for office wall. Someone snap a pic of #devlearn lrnchatters waving to us here at #fakedevlearn (yeah, rub it in) #lrnchat
09:21:10 pm C4LPT: RT @ryantracey: Q3) It’s amazing what you can learn via a good ol’ conversation. #lrnchat
09:21:11 pm stickylearning: RT @ryantracey: Q3) It’s amazing what you can learn via a good ol’ conversation. #lrnchat
09:21:14 pm LearnNuggets: RT @lrnchat: Q4 How can we help talent pools/expertise find and connect with one another? #Lrnchat
09:21:17 pm MariaOD: RT @lrnchat: Q4 How can we help talent pools/expertise find and connect with one another? #lrnchat
09:21:20 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q4 How can we help talent pools/expertise find and connect with one another? #lrnchat
09:21:24 pm olliegardener: :) RT @ryantracey: Q3) Its amazing what you can learn via a good ol conversation. #lrnchat
09:21:25 pm urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q4 How can we help talent pools/expertise find and connect with one another? #lrnchat
09:21:44 pm marciamarcia: RT @lrnchat: Q4 How can we help talent pools/expertise find and connect with one another? #lrnchat
09:21:54 pm asbergman: Q4 I think its moving past expertise and finding a way to just connect people via intros, employee spot lights etc. #lrnchat
09:22:06 pm criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat I think analytics illustrates where to dig for deeper understanding, the understanding comes from conversations with those ppl
09:22:14 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q4 How can we help talent pools/expertise find and connect with one another? #lrnchat
09:22:20 pm LearnNuggets: Q4) connect talent pools by giving away knowledge.  #Lrnchat
09:22:35 pm atsc: RT @lrnchat: Q4 How can we help talent pools/expertise find and connect with one another? #lrnchat
09:22:35 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q4 if you don’t know (i don’t) what talent pool/expertise is, ask. Is it like a community of practice/learning?
09:22:38 pm rdeis: RT @ryantracey: Q3) Its amazing what you can learn via a good ol conversation. >> That can’t be replaced with a computer. #Lrnchat
09:22:43 pm criticallearner: RT @learnnuggets: Q4) connect talent pools by giving away knowledge.  #Lrnchat
09:22:48 pm kelly_smith01: RT @cnagel: RT @lrnchat: Q4 How can we help talent pools/expertise find and connect with one another? #lrnchat
09:22:50 pm chris_saeger: Q4) ppl aready know at a personal level, the trick is to make the talent pools visible to larger groups
#lrnchat
09:22:53 pm Pam_Boiros: RT @marciamarcia: I work, I learn, I share it with you, I learn more from you as a result, I can then do better work & learn more. #lrnchat
09:23:06 pm LearnNuggets: @urbie Yes #Lrnchat
09:23:08 pm ChristyATucker: RT @lrnchat: Q4 How can we help talent pools/expertise find and connect with one another? #lrnchat
09:23:13 pm asbergman: RT @criticallearner: Q3> Analytics shows where to dig for deeper understanding, the understanding comes from convos with those ppl #lrnchat
09:23:18 pm klowey22: q4 – each environment/culture/situation probably has slightly diff approaches to expertise location (profiles, search, tags, etc.) #lrnchat
09:23:25 pm britz: Q4) It can be as simple as creating the channels …motivated ppl will find a way thru the noise #lrnchat
09:23:25 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q4 the hard part is working within the constraints of your particular organization. it can be hurt if org doesn’t support it.
09:23:33 pm rosler: Q4) By facilitating a connection, then backing the hell up to let the ‘social’ happen… #lrnchat @JaneBozarth
09:23:44 pm chris_saeger: Q4) find ways to publicly recognize the “talent” pool, and reward sharing #lrnchat
09:23:50 pm audioswhite: RT @britz: Q4) It can be as simple as creating the channels …motivated ppl will find a way thru the noise #lrnchat
09:23:54 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) Would love for orgs to make it easy for ppl to find each other. When I worked at IBM we had Blue Pages (virtual phone book). #lrnchat
09:23:55 pm NixTheNext: @jmarrapodi @moxzidotcom is heyah! Working it now… #lrnchat http://t.co/EB9rMf1s
09:23:57 pm asbergman: RT @rosler: Q4) By facilitating a connection, then backing the hell up to let the social happen… #lrnchat @JaneBozarth #lrnchat
09:24:00 pm ChristyATucker: Q4) Provide social media tools like wikis & microblogging, and train people to use them #lrnchat
09:24:02 pm criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat more conversations/connections, the more folks understand the ppl and power of their network. Facilitate the connections.
09:24:03 pm MariaOD: Q4:Foster development/coaching/stretch opportunities.  #lrnchat
09:24:04 pm klowey22: q4 – knowledge markets and talent markets? #lrnchat
09:24:04 pm nancyrubin: q4) Lunch and Learn, Virtual Events, Internal and External Communities of Practice, Social Spaces, Create Culture of Sharing #lrnchat
09:24:07 pm Tracy_Parish: Q4) we have to remember not to always go right to the tech solution. Offering food on a room is a great wake to get people together #lrnchat
09:24:08 pm C4LPT: RT @rosler: Q4) By facilitating a connection, then backing the hell up to let the ‘social’ happen… #lrnchat @JaneBozarth
09:24:10 pm chambo_online: RT @rosler: Q4) By facilitating a connection, then backing the hell up to let the social happen… #lrnchat @JaneBozarth #Lrnchat
09:24:20 pm denniscallahan: Need to leave early…have a good night all #lrnchat
09:24:33 pm marciamarcia: How can we connect people who have expertise w those who seek it or need it? #lrnchat
09:24:38 pm kelly_smith01: Q4) Find “champions” or leaders to “publicly” share and encourage others to share/collaborate. #Lrnchat
09:24:38 pm britz: RT @C4LPT: RT @rosler: Q4) By facilitating a connection, then backing the hell up to let the social happen… #lrnchat @JaneBozarth #lrnchat
09:24:43 pm LearnNuggets: RT @MariaOD: Q4:Foster development/coaching/stretch opportunities.  #Lrnchat
09:24:45 pm criticallearner: RT @chris_saeger: Q4) ppl aready know at a pers level, the trick is to make the talent pools visible to larger groups
#lrnchat > Profiles
09:24:48 pm ChristyATucker: Q4) Employee directories where people can tag themselves with their expertise (a la Cisco) #lrnchat
09:24:52 pm JD_Dillon: RT @rosler: Q4) By facilitating a connection, then backing the hell up to let the ‘social’ happen… #lrnchat @JaneBozarth
09:24:59 pm ryantracey: Q4) Create open groups on your SoMe #lrnchat
09:25:10 pm criticallearner: RT @chris_saeger: Q4) find ways to publicly recognize the “talent” pool, and reward sharing #lrnchat
09:25:11 pm atsc: #lrnchat Q4) encouraging networking outside the pool then meetings, online forums – so talking more. But it starts in networking w/ the pool
09:25:26 pm MariaOD: Q4:Increase the training er…tuition assistance budget..lol #lrnchat
09:25:31 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q4 i have to go extra-curricular to find/share with communities of practice/learning. lots of #’s in the twitter-verse.
09:25:43 pm chambo_online: Well live chats with willing mentors aren’t a bad idea…#hinthint #Lrnchat
09:25:44 pm agilistine: Q4) Organize a brown bag lunch and invite lots of coworkers. #lrnchat
09:25:48 pm britz: RT @marciamarcia: How can we connect people who have expertise w those who seek it or need it? / incentives help  #lrnchat
09:25:50 pm olliegardener: q4) Get beyond “shared interests”. how does our day2day work overlap -> find shared contexts, needs & opps for collaboration #lrnchat
09:25:52 pm MMTingley: Q4) Our org has several mini conferences so ppl from different business units can connect
#lrnchat
09:26:01 pm criticallearner: RT @kelly_smith01: Q4) Find “champions” or leaders to “publicly” share and encourage others to share/collaborate. #Lrnchat
09:26:03 pm Musicmosaic1: Q4) Start by creating a fundamentally communicative culture from top down.Flattening the org. leads to initial cross-communication. #lrnchat
09:26:03 pm kelly_smith01: Q4) Build a friendly Knowledge Management system that accommodates sharing/collaboration between internal entities. #Lrnchat
09:26:17 pm MariaOD: @agilistine how’s the brown bag working for your org? #lrnchat
09:26:18 pm kasey428: RT @rosler: Q3)  By analyzing your audience and listening. #lrnchat
09:26:19 pm NixTheNext: @britz but is that relying on, ‘if you build it they will blog’? #devlearn #lrnchat
09:26:27 pm b5alive: Q4) If you have value & knowledge to offer, people will return the favor. #lrnchat
09:26:35 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q4 if $’s weren’t so tight i’d be at #DevLearn big-time. which reminds me: how does their small population share back home?
09:26:41 pm olliegardener: RT @nancyrubin: q4) Lunch & Learn, Virtual Events, Internal & External CoPractice, Social Spaces, Create Culture of Sharing #lrnchat
09:26:49 pm stickylearning: Q4 I like the idea of knowledge cafes that @DavidGurteen uses = knowledge sharing & networking combined #lrnchat
09:26:53 pm HadiyaNuriddin: Q4) #lrnchat I can show them the value of the connection, but I can’t make them value it. Unless there’s pizza.
09:27:02 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat ADDIE (or was it just me who needed a drink?)
09:27:03 pm Tracy_Parish: Use a tool that allows users to put in there list of talents and let others search for those that can help them #lrnchat
09:27:09 pm kelly_smith01: Q4) Internal blogging & micro-blogging – acknowledge and reward these activities.#Lrnchat
09:27:20 pm chrisstjohn: RT @ChristyATucker: Q4) Provide social media tools like wikis & microblogging, and train people to use them #lrnchat
09:27:22 pm marciamarcia: RT @b5alive: Q4) If you have value & knowledge to offer, people will return the favor. #lrnchat
09:27:25 pm ryantracey: Cool! RT @MMTingley: Q4) Our org has several mini conferences so ppl from different business units can connect #lrnchat
09:27:56 pm NixTheNext: Q4 we have a ‘guru’ wiki in our CoP. Self reporting, update when you learn new pieces. #devlearn #lrnchat
09:28:04 pm asbergman: Q4) Is anyone doing tweetchats for employees? Response?  #lrnchat
09:28:04 pm chambo_online: Q4) Allow the space to communicate and don’t try to control, train, or compliance it #Lrnchat
09:28:07 pm marciamarcia: RT @Tracy_Parish: Use a tool that allows ppl to list talents and let others search for those that can help them #lrnchat
09:28:10 pm criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Short version: Get people together. Talking/sharing. Whatever helps that. Use tools to scale where needed.
09:28:14 pm stickylearning: Q4 merge the ideas of Knowledge Management with L&D #lrnchat
09:28:20 pm rdeis: RT @Tracy_Parish: Use a tool that allows users to put in there list of talents and let others search for those that can help them #Lrnchat
09:28:22 pm MMTingley: RT @Musicmosaic1: Q4) Flattening the org. leads to initial cross-communication. #lrnchat
09:28:26 pm britz: @NixTheNext Not necessarily. For me I worked to: know thy audience, select carefully, build ambassadors #lrnchat
09:28:33 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q4 when i’m back home in Phoenix, AZ i go to the monthly ASTD-VOS and ISTE meetings. network. seeing things differently. lunch cool
09:28:35 pm rosler: Cracked 1,000 tweets tonight thanks to #lrnchat, #devlearn, and Honey Badger
09:28:38 pm HadiyaNuriddin: Q4) #lrnchat Make them think it was their idea. You tell me how the connection will help. I can’t tell you, only kindly suggest.
09:28:40 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) recognize the “connectors” in an org w/out making it an additional work responsibility. #lrnchat
09:28:45 pm JaneBozarth: Jane’s extra Q: What % of people who say org doesn’t “allow’ social media actually tried to change that?  #lrnchat
09:29:06 pm LearnNuggets: RT @marciamarcia: RT @Tracy_Parish: tool that allows ppl to list talents and let others search for those that can help them < Yes! #Lrnchat
09:29:15 pm TriciaRansom: RT @JaneBozarth: Jane’s extra Q: What % of people who say org doesn’t “allow’ social media actually tried to change that?  #lrnchat
09:29:15 pm nancyrubin: q4) What about badges or some kind of internal reward system – klout perks (I know #klout is a sore subject this week ‚ò∫) #lrnchat
09:29:16 pm MariaOD: q4: Find what motivates them and exceed their expectation.
>>the return will amaze you  #lrnchat
09:29:17 pm marciamarcia: RT @britz: For me I worked to: know thy audience, select carefully, build ambassadors #lrnchat
09:29:22 pm agilistine: @MariaOD last one we did was organized by our sustainability committee. went pretty good #lrnchat
09:29:24 pm b5alive: Q4) Is there a category on match.com for this? #lrnchat
09:29:29 pm C4LPT: RT @JaneBozarth: Jane’s extra Q: What % of people who say org doesn’t “allow’ social media actually tried to change that?  #lrnchat
09:29:38 pm olliegardener: @marciamarcia @b5alive It doesnt have to be a favor. If ppl organise or do their work in a coworking tool, sharing is a biproduct #lrnchat
09:29:39 pm LearnNuggets: RT @JaneBozarth: Janes extra Q: What % of people who say org doesnt “allow social media actually tried to change that? < tried? 20% #Lrnchat
09:30:00 pm ryantracey: Nicely put – RT RT @stickylearning: Q4 merge the ideas of Knowledge Management with L&D #lrnchat
09:30:03 pm JaneBozarth: Jane’s extra answer: 5?  #lrnchat
09:30:08 pm Musicmosaic1: RT @C4LPT: RT @JaneBozarth: Janes extra Q: What % of people who say org doesnt “allow social media actually tried to change that?  #lrnchat
09:30:43 pm MariaOD: @agilistine we stopped ours..low attendance.. good luck to you #brownbag #lrnchat
09:30:45 pm NixTheNext: @britz so build it, plant it, cultivate it, and they will blog ;-) #devlearn #lrnchat
09:30:46 pm TriciaRansom: QJane) my org said they were blocked. 10 months later I’m still on them. Sometimes you’ve just gotta say “hooey” to official line. #lrnchat
09:30:56 pm criticallearner: Jane’s extra Q: I did! The phrase that opened minds: “Mr. Exec, when I have a sticking point, you always say ‘go talk to..’” #lrnchat
09:30:58 pm urbie: @JaneBozarth @C4LPT how much of a % is me #lrnchat
09:31:05 pm Tracy_Parish: We just have to get a thesaurus and all will be fixed. Social to collaborate. Game to engagement. #lrnchat
09:31:07 pm rosler: @MoxziDotCom Borrow away!!! #lrnchat
09:31:09 pm chrisstjohn: Q4) every one of our 6 campuses has “eChampions”  who live the dream. #lrnchat
09:31:18 pm marciamarcia: 2of3 go around bad systems. RT @JaneBozarth: What % of ppl who org doesnt allow social media try to change that?  #lrnchat
09:31:27 pm chambo_online: RT @NixTheNext: @britz so build it, plant it, cultivate it, and they will blog ;-) #devlearn—>yep #Lrnchat
09:31:38 pm chambo_online: and don’t make it mandatory #Lrnchat
09:32:13 pm kelly_smith01: RT @chambo_online: RT @NixTheNext: @britz so build it, plant it, cultivate it, and they will blog ;-) #devlearn—>yep #Lrnchat
09:32:18 pm lrnchat: Q5 What are some ways we can nurture and participate, rather than control, workflow learning? New ideas for L&D? #lrnchat
09:32:19 pm britz: @NixTheNext yes… flicking the switch will fail ..every org culture different – gotta have your pulse on that for sure #lrnchat
09:32:21 pm marciamarcia: RT @criticallearner: Phrase that opened minds “Mr. Exec, when I have a sticking point, you always say go talk to..” #lrnchat
09:32:28 pm ryantracey: @chambo_online Just make performance mandatory. #lrnchat
09:32:29 pm MMTingley: Q4) Webex topics of interest bring ppl from X-company together virtually.
#lrnchat
09:32:33 pm MariaOD: Hey #lrnchat, it’s been fun. Starving yet again. Wonder if Watson ever gets hungry! Good nite! #lrnchat
09:32:50 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat email and phone were social media at one time… they aren’t blocking those. Folk will SoMe, with any luck, they include the co.
09:32:58 pm urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q5 What are some ways we can nurture and participate, rather than control, workflow learning? New ideas for L&D? #lrnchat
09:33:14 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q5 What are some ways we can nurture and participate, rather than control, workflow learning? New ideas for L&D? #lrnchat
09:33:22 pm britz: Q5) Think like a Community Member not a Community Manager #lrnchat
09:33:25 pm chrisstjohn: You can herd cats. Just move their food! #lrnchat
09:33:27 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q5 What are some ways we can nurture and participate, rather than control, workflow learning? New ideas for L&D? #lrnchat
09:33:36 pm JaneBozarth: RT @marciamarcia: 2of3 go around bad systems. RT @JaneBozarth: What % of ppl who org doesnt allow social media try to change that?  #lrnchat
09:33:59 pm marciamarcia: Just for data. Yumm. RT @MariaOD: Starving yet again. Wonder if #Watson ever gets hungry! #lrnchat
09:34:07 pm kasey428: RT @chrisstjohn: You can herd cats. Just move their food! #lrnchat
09:34:08 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q5 go off your beaten path, listen to a different drummer. Some of my recent instructional strategies were inspired by cosmo.
09:34:14 pm Musicmosaic1: RT @chrisstjohn: You can herd cats. Just move their food! #lrnchat
09:34:25 pm alc47: Enable leadership to move through the communityRT @britz: Q5) Think like a Community Member not a Community Manager #Lrnchat
09:34:40 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat Interesting fact: I consult with a hi-tech security company. #1 risk for malware? You guessed right- folks getting around dumb blox
09:34:41 pm stickylearning: RT @ryantracey: @chambo_online Just make performance mandatory #lrnchat
09:35:13 pm olliegardener: @LearnNuggets @marciamarcia @Tracy_Parish why limit 2 “talents”. Creates bottlenecks & hiearchy. Connect ppl lrning in parallel #lrnchat
09:35:25 pm kelly_smith01: Nice article on sharing/collaboration no solution but good argument.  http://t.co/zE6aLGMD   #lrnchat
09:35:30 pm TriciaRansom: Q5) Nurturing and participation, by their very nature, infer listening, empowerment, caring, and options. #lrnchat
09:35:37 pm marciamarcia: RT @lrnchat: Q5 What are some ways we can nurture and participate, rather than control, workflow learning? #lrnchat
09:35:43 pm stickylearning: Q5 design to encourage collaboration and exploration #lrnchat
09:35:48 pm asbergman: RT @TriciaRansom: Q5) Nurturing and participation, by their very nature, infer listening, empowerment, caring, and options. #lrnchat
09:35:57 pm kelly_smith01: Q5 What are some ways we can nurture and participate, rather than control, workflow learning? New ideas for L&D? #lrnchat
09:36:12 pm nancyrubin: Encourage leadership to become part of the community. Bottom up adoption is good and so is top down!  #lrnchat
09:36:21 pm kelly_smith01: RT @kasey428: RT @chrisstjohn: You can herd cats. Just move their food! #lrnchat
09:36:25 pm chrisstjohn: Q5) No Powerpoint! Be cunning and full of tricks. #lrnchat
09:36:29 pm ryantracey: Q5) Get your hands dirty. #lrnchat
09:36:32 pm kasey428: free from fear, freedom to disagree #lrnchat
09:36:33 pm rdeis: RT @stickylearning: Q5 design to encourage collaboration and exploration #Lrnchat
09:36:36 pm C4LPT: RT @chrisstjohn: You can herd cats. Just move their food! #lrnchat
09:36:36 pm olliegardener: RT @lrnchat: Q5 What are some ways we can nurture and participate, rather than control, workflow learning? New ideas for L&D? #lrnchat
09:36:42 pm alc47: RT @olliegardener:@Tracy_Parish why limit 2 “talents”.  Connect ppl lrning in parallel . Give them frameworks To channel learning #Lrnchat
09:36:51 pm chambo_online: Offer Ideas of how the learning is relevant…answer “what’s in it for me?”  and take it beyond just the same old same old  #Lrnchat
09:36:58 pm LearnNuggets: Q5) don’t condem or criticize failure and mistakes. Encourage growth #Lrnchat
09:36:58 pm britz: @marciamarcia speaking of #Watson http://t.co/ACaumeUR #lrnchat
09:37:01 pm olliegardener: Now – that is a new idea ;) RT @ryantracey: Q5) Get your hands dirty. #lrnchat
09:37:06 pm NixTheNext: RT @chrisstjohn: You can herd cats. Just move their food! #lrnchat
09:37:11 pm LearnNuggets: RT @C4LPT: RT @chrisstjohn: You can herd cats. Just move their food! #Lrnchat
09:37:22 pm kasey428: RT @olliegardener:@Tracy_Parish why limit 2 “talents”.  Connect ppl lrning in parallel . Give them frameworks To channel learning #lrnchat
09:37:23 pm marciamarcia: @criticallearner The best intentions for blocking malware can also block brainware learning, sharing, sparking #lrnchat
09:37:24 pm Musicmosaic1: Q5) Bring back apprenticeships  #lrnchat
09:37:32 pm TriciaRansom: Q0) Just learned that twitterese for management is mgmt. thanks  @NixTheNext! #lrnchat
09:37:32 pm kasey428: RT @LearnNuggets: Q5) dont condem or criticize failure and mistakes. Encourage growth #lrnchat
09:37:36 pm criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Workflow learning happens. Learn from it vs try to control it, and try to enhance support in key challenge areas.
09:37:36 pm chrisstjohn: Alan Kay said, “Once you put something into powerpoint, it  ceases to be knowledge. #lrnchat
09:37:38 pm LearningLava: RT @chrisstjohn: You can herd cats. Just move their food! #lrnchat
09:37:45 pm chambo_online: RT @LearnNuggets: RT @C4LPT: RT @chrisstjohn: You can herd cats. Just move their food! #Lrnchat
09:38:03 pm criticallearner: RT @marciamarcia: The best intentions for blocking malware can also block brainware learning, sharing, sparking #lrnchat >True dat.
09:38:10 pm MMTingley: RT @chrisstjohn: Alan Kay said, “Once you put something into powerpoint, it  ceases to be knowledge. #lrnchat
09:38:19 pm ryantracey: @olliegardener :0) #lrnchat
09:38:22 pm rosler: Q5) Stop trying to control the process so damn much…people are smart on their own. #lrnchat
09:38:24 pm kelly_smith01: Q5) Reward and acknowledge and demonstrate or point-out good internal practice of improving performance.  #lrnchat
09:38:33 pm JaneBozarth: RT @C4LPT: RT @chrisstjohn: You can herd cats. Just move their food! #lrnchat
09:38:37 pm chambo_online: RT @chrisstjohn: Alan Kay said, “Once you put something into powerpoint, it  ceases to be knowledge. #Lrnchat
09:38:48 pm alc47: RT @Musicmosaic1: Q5) Bring back apprenticeships We’ve been stuck with text based learning for too long #Lrnchat
09:38:49 pm Musicmosaic1: @chrisstjohn Don’t tell Articulate that. :) #lrnchat
09:38:56 pm JaneBozarth: RT @marciamarcia: The best intentions for blocking malware can also block brainware learning, sharing, sparking  #lrnchat
09:39:04 pm marciamarcia: @Musicmosaic1 rather than look to others to bring back apprenticeships, just bring them back. Jobswaps too. #lrnchat
09:39:10 pm LnDDave: Q5) check your ego at the door and realize that some of your skills may not be as valuable in the future; we need some new skills #lrnchat
09:39:22 pm kelly_smith01: RT @kasey428: RT @LearnNuggets: Q5) dont condem or criticize failure and mistakes. Encourage growth #lrnchat
09:39:29 pm kelly_smith01: RT @marciamarcia: @criticallearner The best intentions for blocking malware can also block brainware learning, sharing, sparking #lrnchat
09:39:30 pm olliegardener: q5) Make sharing a bi-product of working/learning – of organising your work, finding answers to Qs and “getting on with it” #lrnchat
09:39:41 pm LearnNuggets: RT @chrisstjohn: Alan Kay said, “Once something goes into PPT it ceases 2b knowledge. < then Alan Kay doesn’t know how to design  #Lrnchat
09:39:52 pm JaneBozarth: @chrisstjohn too bad he can’t differentiate tool from designer  #lrnchat
09:39:57 pm b5alive: RT @marciamarcia: The best intentions for blocking malware can also block brainware learning, sharing, sparking  #lrnchat
09:40:04 pm olliegardener: RT @rosler: Q5) Stop trying to control the process so damn much…people are smart on their own. #lrnchat
09:40:19 pm marciamarcia: @alc47 Weve been stuck with text based *training* for too long. Learning is never text based. #lrnchat
09:40:29 pm kelly_smith01: RT @olliegardener: RT @rosler: Q5) Stop trying to control the process so damn much…people are smart on their own. #lrnchat
09:40:31 pm asbergman: RT @olliegardener: RT @rosler: Q5) Stop trying to control the process so damn much…people are smart on their own. #lrnchat
09:40:40 pm LearnNuggets: RT @LnDDave: Q5) check ur ego at the door & realize that some of ur skills may not be as valuable in the future; we need new skills #Lrnchat
09:40:50 pm MMTingley: Q5) Sharing is part of teamwork – often one of those company competencies that are always talked about #lrnchat
09:40:57 pm alc47: @olliegardener Why a by-product. Learning just as valid as output – just different timeframe #Lrnchat
09:40:58 pm C4LPT: RT @rosler: Q5) Stop trying to control the process so damn much…people are smart on their own. #lrnchat
09:41:10 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat PPT doesn’t kill learning, lame bulletpoints kill learning.
09:41:19 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q5 before you set out to slay your next instructional dragon laugh at something: http://t.co/kWUpyAFB .. laughing aerates the brain
09:41:21 pm alc47: RT @C4LPT: RT @rosler: Q5) Stop trying to control the process so damn much…people are smart on their own. #Lrnchat
09:41:24 pm britz: @LearnNuggets True knowledge does not lie within ppl but between them, in their conversations and interactions. Knowledge flows #lrnchat
09:41:33 pm TriciaRansom: Q5) focus on the learner, their needs and painpoints instead of just being an order-taker for courses. #lrnchat
09:41:49 pm JaneBozarth: RT @LnDDave: Q5) check ur ego at the door & realize that some of ur skills may not be as valuable in the future; we need new skills #lrnchat
09:41:52 pm chrisstjohn: Instead of competencies, i am beginning to like the idea of “merit badges”, you know short bits of free range learning. #lrnchat
09:41:53 pm stickylearning: RT @LearnNuggets: RT @chrisstjohn: Alan Kay said, “Once something goes into PPT it ceases 2b knowledge. < then Alan Kay doesn’t know how to design  #Lrnchat
09:41:59 pm LearnNuggets: Q5) learning is and happens everywhere. So is inspiration and innovation. Let go! #Lrnchat
09:42:00 pm NixTheNext: Q5 Be subversive/go viral? Tweet as an entity other than l&d? (not so site its a good idea, but want thoughts) #devlearn #lrnchat
09:42:07 pm nancyrubin: RT @LearnNuggets True knowledge does not lie within ppl but between them, in their conversations and interactions. Knowledge flows #lrnchat
09:42:11 pm marciamarcia: Squashing human ingenuity seems to be the goal of some leaders. RT @rosler: Stop trying to control…people are smart on their own. #lrnchat
09:42:20 pm criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Think for 2 seconds: Do you like being controlled or autonomy? Then, why would you treat professional peers differently?
09:42:37 pm britz: RT @C4LPT: RT @rosler: Q5) Stop trying to control the process so damn much…people are smart on their own. /Hire ppl you trust #lrnchat
09:42:45 pm Musicmosaic1: Q5) Emulate the real world environment as much as possible.  Living it is learning it.   Making it your own is the key component. #lrnchat
09:42:46 pm kelly_smith01: Q5) Encourage new ideas – don’t be afraid to modify, eliminate the work flow or re-cast the work flow participants.  #lrnchat
09:42:48 pm TriciaRansom: Quote of the night: Free range learning. #lrnchat
09:42:51 pm NixTheNext: RT @britz: @LearnNuggets True knowledge does not lie within ppl but between them, in their conversations and interactions. Knowledge flows #lrnchat
09:42:55 pm MMTingley: Deep! RT @britz: @LearnNuggets True knowledge doesn’t lie w/in ppl but btw them, in conversations & interactions. Knowledge flows #lrnchat
09:43:12 pm NixTheNext: .@britz is a twitter poet #devlearn #lrnchat
09:43:14 pm nancyrubin: Encourage (and help) employees to become experts in their field and share their information internally and externally  #lrnchat
09:43:15 pm rosler: Sadly, truer words ne’er spoken… RT @marciamarcia: Squashing human ingenuity seems to be the goal of some leaders. #lrnchat
09:43:20 pm asbergman: @TriciaRansom is on it tonight! focus on the learner, their needs and painpoints instead of just being an order-taker for courses. #lrnchat
09:43:36 pm olliegardener: @alc47 A bi-product is often worth more than the principal product :) Look at delicacies. #lrnchat
09:43:44 pm olliegardener: @TriciaRansom is on it tonight! focus on the learner, their needs and painpoints instead of just being an order-taker for courses. #lrnchat
09:43:48 pm chrisstjohn: PPT says “insert text here” NOT create knowledge event. #lrnchat
09:43:54 pm criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat What will you achieve by controlling? It’s not like you can learn FOR them (or make ‘em). They gotta take ownership. Give it.
09:43:57 pm ryantracey: I’m hungry – RT @TriciaRansom Quote of the night: Free range learning. #lrnchat
09:44:02 pm marciamarcia: We hire the smartest people we can find then treat them like idiots.  #lrnchat
09:44:07 pm olliegardener: @LearnNuggets True knowledge doesnt lie w/in ppl but btw them, in conversations & interactions. Knowledge flows #lrnchat
09:44:25 pm b5alive: @marciamarcia Wouldn’t say never. Important not to *only* use text, though. #lrnchat
09:44:35 pm C4LPT: RT @marciamarcia: We hire the smartest people we can find then treat them like idiots.  #lrnchat
09:44:39 pm JaneBozarth: RT @marciamarcia: We hire the smartest people we can find then treat them like idiots.  #lrnchat
09:44:44 pm NixTheNext: RT @marciamarcia: We hire the smartest people we can find then treat them like idiots.  #lrnchat
09:44:47 pm billymitchell1: RT @nancyrubin: Encourage (and help) employees to become experts in their field and share their information internally and externally  #lrnchat
09:44:51 pm TriciaRansom: What the Sam Hill? I’ve got almost 7,000 tweets? #lrnchat
09:45:02 pm MMTingley: Yes, Don’t infantalize the learner! RT @marciamarcia: We hire the smartest people we can find then treat them like idiots.  #lrnchat
09:45:02 pm nancyrubin: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @marciamarcia: We hire the smartest people we can find then treat them like idiots.  #lrnchat
09:45:04 pm criticallearner: RT @marciamarcia: We hire the smartest people we can find then treat them like idiots.  #lrnchat > Sad, but often true.
09:45:14 pm JD_Dillon: RT @marciamarcia: We hire the smartest people we can find then treat them like idiots.  #lrnchat
09:45:25 pm writegrrl: Love it! RT @TriciaRansom: Quote of the night: Free range learning. #lrnchat
09:45:27 pm ChristyATucker: @marciamarcia I don’t know. Some orgs hiring processes are designed to find doormats. #lrnchat
09:45:32 pm BVChorale: #lrnchat trying a diff acct than @MoxziDotCom ! Hellooooo
09:45:36 pm TriciaRansom: I can see them running free! RT @ryantracey: I’m hungry – RT @TriciaRansom Quote of the night: Free range learning. #lrnchat
09:45:37 pm mfitri: RT @marciamarcia: We hire the smartest people we can find then treat them like idiots.  #lrnchat
09:45:37 pm LearnNuggets: RT @chrisstjohn: PPT says “insert text here” NOT create knowledge event. < Dr. @JaneBozarth said that very thing today #Lrnchat
09:45:41 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q5 put yourself in the shoes of your learners: learn something new, like cartooning ( http://t.co/9H0OkfFG ) @zephrael
09:46:01 pm criticallearner: RT @christyatucker: @marciamarcia I don’t know. Some orgs hiring processes are designed to find doormats. #lrnchat > Sad, also true.
09:46:16 pm LearningLava: RT @marciamarcia: We hire the smartest people we can find then treat them like idiots.  #lrnchat
09:46:21 pm glfceo: ‚Äú@marciamarcia: We hire the smartest people we can find then treat them like idiots.  #lrnchat‚Äù < reason? Idiots are in charge :) )!!
09:46:21 pm lrnchat: QWrap) Time to wrap up. Goodbyes, farewells, shameless plugs welcome. #lrnchat
09:46:34 pm marciamarcia: Sadly true. RT @ChristyATucker: @marciamarcia Some orgs hiring processes are designed to find doormats. #lrnchat
09:46:39 pm britz: @TriciaRansom shhh im staying at circus-circus #lrnchat (kidding!) But they do have killer powdered eggs at breakfast buffet ;)
09:46:41 pm C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: QWrap) Time to wrap up. Goodbyes, farewells, shameless plugs welcome. #lrnchat
09:46:42 pm tadmaster: “@marciamarcia: We hire the smartest people we can find then treat them like idiots. #lrnchat” – Mr. Nail, did that hammer hurt your head?
09:46:49 pm nancyrubin: Any thoughts on systems like this (just announced) Pearson and Knewton Team Up to Make Learning Personal http://t.co/rs5kxqUt  #lrnchat
09:46:49 pm TriciaRansom: RT @marciamarcia: We hire the smartest people we can find then treat them like idiots.  #lrnchat
09:46:59 pm chrisstjohn: @LearnNuggets  Jane is one of the smartest ppl i know. #lrnchat
09:47:44 pm alc47: Nic Laycock grt to have shared “live”. Blogging about helping learning communities become effective #Lrnchat
09:47:50 pm LearnNuggets: Qwrap) NuggetHead Studioz – find me and let’s ideate and designboard. Awesome live chat tonight! Thanks everyone!!! #Lrnchat
09:47:52 pm britz: RT @chrisstjohn: @LearnNuggets  Jane is one of the smartest ppl i know. / Yes THEY are :) #lrnchat
09:47:56 pm urbie: #lrnchat urbie delgado, instructional designer, late of Phoenix/Roswell, focus: rehumanizing elearning, iPad driver, http://t.co/kUCk7xGL
09:48:03 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat Qwrap> David Glow, Tampa, FL: Anyone exploring learning analytics, I’d love to collabor8 (my new passion).
09:48:04 pm ryantracey: Qwrap) Foching up social media http://t.co/RQpJTZWO #shamelessplug #lrnchat
09:48:08 pm BVChorale: #lrnchat 20 tweets from here and THIS shows up in #lrnchat ?? I knew it was personal !!
09:48:09 pm tadmaster: @marciamarcia @rosler (I’m not part of #lrnchat but…) My mantra at work lately = “Control != Leadership”
09:48:10 pm JaneBozarth: Night y’all ! #LoveMeSomeLrnchat #lrnchat
09:48:20 pm kelly_smith01: Q5) Hagel and Brown say Break Your Filters http://t.co/0dJ1SoIL #lrnchat #bigshift
09:48:25 pm glfceo: RT @marciamarcia: Sadly true. RT @ChristyATucker: @marciamarcia Some orgs hiring processes are designed to find doormats. #lrnchat
09:48:30 pm NixTheNext: Qwrap- becky from chicago, thanks for the live tweet, #devlearn #lrnchat. Where’s dinner?
09:48:36 pm nancyrubin: For those of you in Vegas you have to go to Hash House a Go Go for breakfast – http://t.co/QgNVfYxa #devlearn #lrnchat
09:48:40 pm britz: Its over already!? Dang #lrnchat
09:48:49 pm C4LPT: qwrap) had a fab time #lrnchat in Vegas – more please
09:49:00 pm asbergman: QWrap) Andy from Indy, thanks for a great first  #lrnchat
09:49:05 pm olliegardener: qwrap: Ollie Gardener. Cofounder of NoddlePod. Blog: http://t.co/tLnloJux #lrnchat
09:49:25 pm chambo_online: ChAmberlin from Vegas this week… And I am out #Lrnchat
09:49:26 pm tinotchka: RT @marciamarcia: We hire the smartest people we can find then treat them like idiots.  #lrnchat
09:49:38 pm tinotchka: RT @marciamarcia: Sadly true. RT @ChristyATucker: @marciamarcia Some orgs hiring processes are designed to find doormats. #lrnchat
09:49:41 pm b5alive: QWrap) Goodnight from #devlearn. Now, where’s dinner? Anyone else hungry? #lrnchat
09:49:53 pm kelly_smith01: Qwrap)  Night to #devlearn and #fakedevlearn folks and also #nonfakedevelear folks. #lrnchat
09:49:56 pm chrisstjohn: Shameless plug: http://t.co/6Olbqp0I. June 5-7. Keynotes by Hart, Kapor, O’Reilly and Seimens. It just doesnt get better. #lrnchat
09:50:09 pm marciamarcia: Plugs: If you’re not yet on the http://t.co/SSkGBXtB (lrnchat-list), pls let me know.
#lrnchat
09:50:18 pm britz: I’m Plugging #CNYASTD 1st Pecha Kucha Unconference 11/18. I was selected to speak twice – fun! http://t.co/TZHw2drS #lrnchat
09:50:22 pm JustStormy: someday i will get back to #lrnchat (sigh)
09:50:33 pm nancyrubin: Enjoy the rest of #devlearn. Catch you all next week. Nancy Rubin – undergoing career and life changes – all good… #lrnchat
09:50:40 pm ChristyATucker: QWrap) Christy Tucker in NC. Wishing I could be at #Devlearn with lots of you live. #lrnchat
09:50:55 pm jwillensky: OK, live #lrnchat: @stevier and I are here. We can start.
09:51:08 pm olliegardener: Recently launched a short animation about NoddlePod. what we r about & r trying to do. http://t.co/utIZmJWd #lrnchat
09:51:12 pm Musicmosaic1: QWrap) This was a nice first experience @ #lrnchat.  I’m looking forward to my next learning challenge. :) #lrnchat
09:51:16 pm rosler: QWrap) Keep learning, keep yearning, keep the knowledge fire burning.  Honey Badger 4 Life
http://t.co/L8xETOC1 #lrnchat
09:51:48 pm nancyrubin: RT @olliegardener: Recently launched a short animation about NoddlePod. what we r about & r trying to do. http://t.co/Yii6GhOH #lrnchat
09:52:19 pm marciamarcia: Have a new “we’re working collaboratively” story in your org you’d like to get some press? Contact me. Thx! #lrnchat
09:52:38 pm olliegardener: ahh.. but it really is getting late. My eyelids aren’t quite as keen as I am ;) RT @britz: Its over already!? Dang #lrnchat
09:52:42 pm chrisstjohn: Qwrap: Chris StJohn (DAU – the WalMart of Learning) Empowering tech herder. Thumbing my nose at 1000s of yrs of educ tradition. #lrnchat
09:52:47 pm stickylearning: ‚Äú@stickylearning: QWrap Great to embed #lrnchat into my workflow today! Now I’ll explain to co-workers what I’ve been up to.‚Äù
09:53:00 pm MMTingley: Qwrap) Melissa Tingley, eLearning ID, digital storyteller and general edugeek, Boston. Wishing 2B at #devlearn #lrnchat
09:53:12 pm britz: Mark Britz wrapping up #fakedevlearn lrnchat hosting efforts from Syracuse, NY. ‘nite all …and thanks to the #devlearn live grp #lrnchat
09:53:29 pm BVChorale: #devlearn #lrnchat so I’m really @MoxziDotCom so please look me up there too. But at least now I can finally participate !
09:54:01 pm JaneBozarth: @britz hey good seeing you  #lrnchat
09:54:09 pm TriciaRansom: Qwrap) this is Tricia in Vegas. ID at University of Illinois. Night all. And my husband said to tell all y’all Hi! #lrnchat
09:54:21 pm chrisstjohn: Every Thursday is #lrnchat ! Remember, the early sea gull gets the french fry!
09:54:54 pm stickylearning: RT @olliegardener: Recently launched a short animation about NoddlePod. what we r about & r trying to do. http://t.co/utIZmJWd #lrnchat
09:54:58 pm marciamarcia: Extra big thanks to @LnDDave #devlearn & all the new participants tonight. Hope to see you again real soon. #lrnchat
09:55:22 pm britz: @JaneBozarth Right back at ya Jane! see you at #lscon or #mlearncon ? #lrnchat
09:55:29 pm cingad: RT @chrisstjohn: You can herd cats. Just move their food! #lrnchat
09:55:34 pm bartb1067: RT @chrisstjohn: You can herd cats. Just move their food! #lrnchat
09:55:57 pm olliegardener: @marciamarcia if ur interested in coworking entrepreneurs; http://t.co/5245fEKU or students @ edinb.uni learning collaboratively? #lrnchat
09:56:09 pm SeaslugOfDoom: RT @b5alive QWrap) Goodnight from #devlearn. Now, where’s dinner? Anyone else hungry? #lrnchat << bloody starving
09:56:20 pm marciamarcia: So well said! RT @olliegardener: it really is getting late. My eyelids arent quite as keen as I am ;) #lrnchat
09:56:31 pm olliegardener: @stickylearning: QWrap Great to embed #lrnchat into my workflow today! Now Ill explain to co-workers what Ive been up to.” #lrnchat
09:56:40 pm nancyrubin: Good night folks. Thanks for another great #lrnchat. I learn more from you all every single week! Talk about just in time learning! #lrnchat
09:58:03 pm olliegardener: @marciamarcia :) Thanks. might just hit the pillow now. “3:00 am” is just not a welcome sight #lrnchat
09:59:37 pm filopemen: RT @marciamarcia: We hire the smartest people we can find then treat them like idiots.  #lrnchat
09:59:57 pm b5alive: @SeaslugOfDoom Lets do this. Who else wants to join up for dinner? #lrnchat #devlearn
10:01:44 pm lowcus: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @LnDDave: Q5) check ur ego at the door & realize that some of ur skills may not be as valuable in the future; we need new skills #lrnchat
10:02:46 pm EA_learning: Day two over from #DevLearn and I’m starving. Where is the food at and who is going? #Lrnchat

Transcript 27 October 2011 (late)

October 28, 2011

08:30:08 pm lrnchat: Welcome to #lrnchat! How are you this fine evening?
08:30:24 pm Quinnovator: it’s time for the memestream that is #lrnchat, duck or better yet join!
08:30:37 pm LnDDave: @criticallearner Hi David – Thanks very much for the kind words in your blog post! #lrnchat
08:30:40 pm chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Welcome to #lrnchat! How are you this fine evening?
08:30:44 pm Quinnovator: welcome to new and returning #lrnchat participants, another good time is in the offing
08:30:44 pm Ruthie_HB: @lrnchat Fantabulous! Ready for another #lrnchat. :)
08:31:00 pm briandusablon: Watch out! I’m back for the evening #lrnchat! #lrnchat
08:31:06 pm lrnchat: If you’re new to #lrnchat, our “rules” for playing are available here: http://t.co/4Lr208H4
08:31:06 pm LnDDave: I’m joining #lrnchat for the next 90 minutes – please excuse the excess tweets!
08:31:26 pm briandusablon: RT @lrnchat: If youre new to #lrnchat, our “rules” for playing are available here: http://t.co/P54Os4Da #lrnchat
08:31:35 pm Quinnovator: seeing some familiar faces here for #lrnchat tonite
08:32:01 pm huiwana: Hi #lrnchat Happy Friday from Singapore!
08:32:02 pm lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself; where you’re from. What have you learned today/this week?
08:32:31 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself; where you’re from. What have you learned today/this week?
08:32:47 pm pmtrainer: RT @lrnchat: Welcome to #lrnchat! How are you this fine evening? #lrnchat
08:32:58 pm Quinnovator: g’day to @briandusablon @LnDDave @criticallearner @rjpanetti @kelly_smith01 @minutebio and more, I’m sure #lrnchat
08:33:02 pm pmtrainer: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself; where youre from. What have you learned today/this week? #lrnchat
08:33:10 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, freelancing around #lrnchat
08:33:50 pm criticallearner: Hi #lrnchat folks: David Glow, Tampa, FL here.
08:34:03 pm HiTweeps: Hi @Ruthie_HB | re: Hi Tweeps! You might want to zip or mute me for the next 90 minutes. I’m going to hop into #lrnchat. :)
08:34:04 pm briandusablon: Q0) Hey friends. Brian Dusablon. Learning Ninja, dad, Cubs fan :( . Care about your users, people. cc @remembertheuser & #TheToolBar #lrnchat
08:34:06 pm AnotherAnna: Portland, Oregon,  learned chuffed is British slang for being pleased about something.  Anything else didn’t stick.  #Lrnchat
08:34:15 pm rjpanetti: @Quinnovator @briandusablon @LnDDave @criticallearner @kelly_smith01 @minutebio Top o’the evening to ya… #lrnchat
08:34:19 pm briandusablon: @Quinnovator Howdy Clark! #lrnchat
08:34:22 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, learning experience design strategist, author/consultant/speaker, genial malcontent, evil genius, Walnut Creek CA #lrnchat
08:34:35 pm pmtrainer: Coline Son Lee from Freano, CA, Performance Consultant. Learned some new tools of the trade in eLEarning #lrnchat
08:35:08 pm Quinnovator: and don’t forget the Official #lrnchat Drinking Game‚Ñ¢ http://t.co/VeuihVpN (drinks at the ready!)
08:35:09 pm Ruthie_HB: Ruth from Chicago burb. Web content manager & learning enthusiast. Learned it’s exhilarating crossing off your to-do list. #lrnchat
08:35:37 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman – eLearning Designer at Johns Hopkins in Baltimore, MD #lrnchat
08:35:53 pm briandusablon: RT @Quinnovator: and dont forget the Official #lrnchat Drinking Game‚Ñ¢ http://t.co/y5SHWSlT (drinks at the ready!) #lrnchat
08:36:07 pm odguru: Christy from Guelph Canada #lrnchat.  Evenin’ everyone.
08:36:14 pm odguru: RT @Quinnovator: and don’t forget the Official #lrnchat Drinking Game‚Ñ¢ http://t.co/VeuihVpN (drinks at the ready!)
08:36:32 pm briandusablon: @Quinnovator La Fin Du Monde on tap for tonight. :) #lrnchat
08:36:35 pm Quinnovator: q0) learned to resurrect old ideas that were good but too early, they may yet find their niche!  #lrnchat
08:36:45 pm AnotherAnna: Anna, I also learned Latin American facilitator are very personable, but they don’t like the virtual classroom as much as F2F ##Lrnchat
08:36:56 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat shouldn’t the official drinking game tweet be offered with a few of the drinkwords embedded #experientiallearning
08:37:02 pm Quinnovator: @briandusablon ah, a *very* nice drop. Torpedo Extra IPA for me #lrnchat
08:37:06 pm LnDDave: Greetings #lrnchat, David Kelly from NYC. Learner, Dad. and for the next week, On-Site Backchannel Curator for DevLearn.
08:37:10 pm minutebio: @rjpanetti Right back at ya – Top o’the evening  #lrnchat
08:37:30 pm Quinnovator: @briandusablon you’ll be doing *just* fine if you’ve got the 750 ml bottle! :) #lrnchat
08:38:05 pm BizedgeLLC: RT @CatMoore: Why you only need to test with 5 users: http://t.co/7bMeCDf2 @ruzuku #lrnchat
08:38:26 pm chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself; where you’re from. What have you learned today/this week?
08:40:04 pm lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with eLearning and/or performance support items you create? #lrnchat
08:40:05 pm Quinnovator: @CatMoore ah, yes, heuristic usability #lrnchat
08:40:11 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with eLearning and/or performance support items you create? #lrnchat
08:40:12 pm minutebio: Q0) Learned 2day – Participant knows smile sheets r not anonymous when they r the only 1 in class #lrnchat
08:40:15 pm chet_stevenson: Chester Stevenson, Instructional and Performance Technology Grad Student at Boise State, Learned personally the value of trust #lrnchat
08:40:26 pm chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with eLearning and/or performance support items you create? #lrnchat
08:40:31 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with eLearning and/or performance support items you create? #lrnchat
08:40:43 pm rjpanetti: Rjpanetti, learning consultant, Atlanta, I am steeped in old timey learning materials…I’m just silly with them… #lrnchat
08:40:46 pm Quinnovator: q1) think learners prefer to experience elearning and performance support, not “interface” with them ;) #lrnchat
08:40:47 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with eLearning and/or performance support items you create? #lrnchat
08:40:47 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with eLearning and/or performance support items you create? #lrnchat
08:40:48 pm KoreenOlbrish: <–western Philly burbs, games, virtual worlds, immersive learning…now a division of @ayogogames :) #lrnchat
08:40:50 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with eLearning and/or performance support items you create? #lrnchat
08:41:18 pm pmtrainer: Q0) Got my feet wet with articulate this week
#lrnchat
08:41:21 pm TheAirton: Q0) Airton from the Mothership awaiting Beavis and Butthead’s return, oh and I do training stuff #lrnchat
08:41:24 pm chet_stevenson: RT @Quinnovator: q1) think learners prefer to experience elearning and performance support, not “interface” with them ;) #lrnchat
08:41:28 pm briandusablon: How Brian does #lrnchat. http://t.co/ru3OTmMj
08:41:34 pm pmtrainer: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with eLearning and/or performance support items you create? #lrnchat
08:41:56 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q0) I learned that I really have a lot of support out there! #lrnchat
08:42:12 pm minutebio: Q1) Sumtimes they feel entertained & although they don’t usually say “I met the objectives.” they do… Pretty sure #lrnchat
08:42:33 pm Quinnovator: q1) can range from “rather have my teeth pulled without anaesthetic” to “can I have another go?”  #lrnchat
08:42:51 pm briandusablon: Q1) Our learners are pissed before they even get to the items I create. Accessing them is painful. #lrnchat
08:42:53 pm pmtrainer: Agreed! >>RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q0) I learned that I really have a lot of support out there! #lrnchat
08:43:03 pm rjpanetti: Q1) typically happy, sometimes grateful…it’s a big improvement over why they are used to. #lrnchat
08:43:08 pm TheAirton: Q1] At the moment, high involvement when job is on the line.and does not interfere with daily duties… :( #lrnchat
08:43:10 pm criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat often, slightly worse than using the items they create themselves (if I am being honest)
08:43:12 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q1. We had one learner/player of an ARG jump up and down asking for more. Thought that was a good sign. #lrnchat
08:43:13 pm AnotherAnna: Q1) angry as all get  when the tech doesn’t work, giddy when it’s done right.  #Lrnchat
08:43:41 pm briandusablon: Nice! RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q1. We had one learner/player of an ARG jump up and down asking for more. Thought that was a good sign. #lrnchat
08:43:56 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with eLearning and/or performance support items you create? #lrnchat
08:44:07 pm Ruthie_HB: Q1) Depends on learners. Some r resistant @ 1st when hear “new” learning opp. is available but after trying become comfortable. #lrnchat
08:44:21 pm odguru: Q1) If they r involved, they feel great.  If not suspicious. #Lrnchat
08:44:24 pm criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat Depends on how much legal and compliance “makes” us do some things- the more influence=”I want to drink bleach” from users
08:44:32 pm minutebio: Q1) Often  happy when it is concise and relevant.  #lrnchat
08:44:55 pm Quinnovator: q1) better design doesn’t take longer (er, after *some* work): http://t.co/4MF1pS1k #lrnchat
08:44:59 pm criticallearner: RT @koreenolbrish: Q1. We had one learner/player of an ARG jump up and down asking for more. Thought that was a good sign. #lrnchat >YES!
08:45:00 pm pmtrainer: Q1) Usually positive, I think the biggest issue is the equipment, if the equip works then things are smooth #lrnchat
08:45:21 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Can’t say at this moment – doing overview page turners :-( #lrnchat
08:45:24 pm criticallearner: RT @odguru: Q1) If they r involved, they feel great.  If not suspicious. #Lrnchat
08:45:31 pm odguru: RT@KoreenOlbrish We had one learner/player of an ARG jump up and down asking for more. Thought that was a good sign. #lrnchat << Indeed!
08:45:31 pm minutebio: Q1) Many appreciate when they have practical take-aways like printable job aids #lrnchat
08:45:35 pm Quinnovator: q1) response better if you address the WIIFM!  #lrnchat
08:45:47 pm kelly_smith01: RT @odguru: Q1) If they r involved, they feel great.  If not suspicious. #Lrnchat
08:45:50 pm briandusablon: RT @Quinnovator: q1) better design doesnt take longer (er, after *some* work): http://t.co/yTe6NG3d #lrnchat
08:45:56 pm AnotherAnna: @pmtrainer very frustrating when the tech doesn’t work
#lrnchat
08:46:07 pm rjpanetti: Q1 continued) …but in the land of the blind a one-eyed man is a king!  #lrnchat
08:46:16 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @odguru: Q1) If they r involved, they feel great. If not suspicious. #Lrnchat // if opp. to involve them early as new item create, helps!
08:46:22 pm pmtrainer: RT @minutebio: Q1) Many appreciate when they have practical take-aways like printable job aids #lrnchat
08:46:26 pm LnDDave: Q1) When learners complain about ‘having to take the training’ ,we own that as designers. #lrnchat
08:46:52 pm briandusablon: RT @LnDDave: Q1) When learners complain about having to take the training ,we own that as designers. #lrnchat
08:47:00 pm TheAirton: I call it the “So What” Factor RT @quinnovator: q1) response better if you address the WIIFM!  #lrnchat
08:47:00 pm criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat If we get to really drive the whole “form follows function”, they like the efficiency (let ‘em test outta what they don’t need)
08:47:11 pm pmtrainer: RT @LnDDave: Q1) When learners complain about having to take the training ,we own that as designers. #lrnchat
08:47:15 pm minutebio: RT @LnDDave: Q1) When learners complain about having to take the training ,we own that as designers.  #lrnchat
08:47:16 pm criticallearner: RT @minutebio: Q1) Many appreciate when they have practical take-aways like printable job aids #lrnchat
08:47:22 pm Quinnovator: q1) if you’re making it meaningful, relevant, and challenging, it’s better #lrnchat
08:47:27 pm TheAirton: What are the drinking rules tonight? #lrnchat
08:47:41 pm briandusablon: Q1) They love it if they get just what they need, right when they need it. Complain about compliance training. Normal. #lrnchat
08:47:49 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: q1) if you’re making it meaningful, relevant, and challenging, it’s better #lrnchat
08:47:53 pm MaryRNeducator: RT @Quinnovator: q1) better design doesn’t take longer (er, after *some* work): http://t.co/4MF1pS1k #lrnchat
08:47:54 pm Quinnovator: @TheAirton same as it ever was http://t.co/VeuihVpN #lrnchat
08:47:54 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @criticallearner: RT @minutebio: Q1) Many appreciate when they have practical take-aways like printable job aids #lrnchat
08:47:59 pm odguru: @kelly_smith01 what’s “overview page turners” #dumbquestion #lrnchat
08:49:05 pm criticallearner: RT @briandusablon: Q1) They love it if they get just what they need, when they need it. Complain about compliance training. Normal. #lrnchat
08:49:23 pm TheAirton: Thank You for the insight @quinnovator #lrnchat
08:50:33 pm Quinnovator: q1) seen bad job aids, that had good content but were still lacking in design, we need to do better!  #lrnchat
08:50:35 pm criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat they hate it when legal/compliance folks mandate nav lockdowns so users “must” see content.
08:50:41 pm TheAirton: @odguru There are NO #dumbquestions, just inquisitive idiots ;-) #lrnchat
08:50:42 pm briandusablon: Q1) I’m pushing more performance support than training. 1) give users what they want. 2) don’t have to go through LMS to access. #lrnchat
08:51:01 pm britz: Dang! Looks like a gr8 #lrnchat …pumpkin carving w/ kiddos takes precidence tho. Enjoy, i’ll be sure to read transcript.
08:51:01 pm rjpanetti: @LnDDave and yes, you need to take the training..we don’t have that chair from The Matrix that teaches Kung Fu in 30sec…yet  #lrnchat
08:51:02 pm minutebio: Q1) “Give ‘em just enough 2 make ‘em dangerous” – my old boss use 2 say #lrnchat
08:51:10 pm briandusablon: Agreed. RT @Quinnovator: q1) seen bad job aids, that had good content but were still lacking in design, we need to do better!  #lrnchat
08:51:24 pm Quinnovator: RT @briandusablon: Q1) pushing more performance support than training 1) give users what they want 2) don’t have to go through LMS #lrnchat
08:51:33 pm criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat Worst case, like this http://t.co/DdezNupM
08:51:48 pm Quinnovator: RT @criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat they hate it when legal/compliance folks mandate nav lockdowns so users “must” see content. < ditto
08:51:55 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) The less time spent in training class or mode the happier end-user will be, #lrnchat
08:51:56 pm criticallearner: RT @briandusablon: Q1) pushing more performance support than training 1) give users what they want 2) don’t have to go through LMS #lrnchat
08:52:00 pm briandusablon: @britz Awesome. Enjoy the pumpkin carving! #ThisManHasHisPrioritiesStraight #lrnchat
08:52:16 pm kelly_smith01: RT @briandusablon: Q1) pushing more performance support than training 1) give users what they want 2) don’t have to go through LMS #lrnchat
08:52:29 pm TheAirton: On Job Aids, if it isn’t useful on the ‘JOB’ then it’s a ‘while I’m in training aid” Focus on future use resource #lrnchat
08:52:32 pm Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: Q1) less time spent in training class/mode the happier end-user will be #lrnchat < tradeoff: sufficient practice needed
08:53:02 pm Ruthie_HB: @briandusablon Would you push it to them in chunks/bite-size bits as they perform? #lrnchat
08:53:09 pm minutebio: RT @Quinnovator: seen bad job aids, … | Know they’re good when plenty of staff have ‘em taped 2 their wall #lrnchat
08:53:13 pm LnDDave: Q1) When was the last time you heard someone complain about the iPhone interface? It just makes sense. Why can’t eLearning? #lrnchat
08:53:20 pm odguru: @rjpanetti @LnDDave Compliance classes are such a hard thing for all involved. 2 bad you can’t just say “don’t be an asshole.” #Lrnchat
08:53:39 pm Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q1) When was last time you heard someone complain about iPhone interface? It just makes sense. Why can’t eLearning? #lrnchat
08:53:43 pm pmtrainer: RT @TheAirton: On Job Aids, if it isnt useful on the JOB then its a while Im in training aid” Focus on future use resource #lrnchat
08:54:02 pm briandusablon: @Quinnovator @criticallearner even if locked down, we can still make those screens more user-friendly and consumable. #lrnchat
08:54:03 pm criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat Best case, they don’t realize we participated, they just worked and we walked alongside to support.
08:54:08 pm lrnchat: Q2) How do you design to meet the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
08:54:17 pm Quinnovator: q1) mistakes made: courses when job aids would do; compliance as CYA, not learning; knowledge dump instead of skill shift #lrnchat
08:54:23 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design to meet the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
08:54:24 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design to meet the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
08:54:26 pm briandusablon: @Ruthie_HB Depends on the user, environment, access, topic. #lrnchat
08:54:29 pm pmtrainer: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design to meet the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
08:54:42 pm Ruthie_HB: @theairton ..and assimilate that resource for reuse versus filing it away in a binder or training materials to collect dust. #lrnchat
08:54:46 pm kelly_smith01: @Quinnovator  Agreed with need for sufficient practice. One way (there are others) mobile devices for practice. #lrnchat
08:54:52 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design to meet the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
08:54:55 pm Quinnovator: q2) know thy audience! #lrnchat  (what makes their heart beat faster, get up in the morning, etc) #lrnchat
08:55:02 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design to meet the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
08:55:02 pm Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: @Quinnovator  Agreed with need for sufficient practice. One way (there are others) mobile devices for practice. #lrnchat
08:55:04 pm TheAirton: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design to meet the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
08:55:05 pm criticallearner: RT @lnddave: Q1) When was last time u heard someone complain abt iPhone interface? just makes sense. >I use iStuff often 2 design #lrnchat
08:55:09 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design to meet the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
08:55:13 pm briandusablon: Q2) Know your audience. Interview them. Learn from them. Sit with them. #lrnchat
08:55:16 pm rjpanetti: RT @Quinnovator: q2) know thy audience! #lrnchat  (what makes their heart beat faster, get up in the morning, etc) #lrnchat
08:55:37 pm LnDDave: Q2) Ask for feedback Before or During design, rather than after implementation. #lrnchat
08:55:43 pm AnotherAnna: Q2) don’t skip the assessment, does that ever happen?  #lrnchat
08:56:01 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @quinnovator: q2) know thy audience! #lrnchat (what makes their heart beat faster, get up in the morning, etc) #lrnchat
08:56:13 pm Quinnovator: q2) hint: find out why the SMEs think it’s interesting; they do this as a passion, tap into it #lrnchat
08:56:15 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q2. I spend 80% of my time on audience and organizational analysis, 20% on design. Once you do the analysis, the design is gravy. #lrnchat
08:56:22 pm pmtrainer: Q2) How does it impact their job and their performance and the overall organization (biz objectives) #lrnchat
08:56:23 pm TheAirton: Q2} Easy, I ask questions!  No, too easy? #lrnchat
08:56:40 pm MMTingley: Ok then, back from story time on to  #lrnchat
08:56:43 pm criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat involve them
08:56:50 pm Quinnovator: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q2. spend 80% of time on audience & org analysis, 20% on design. Once you do the analysis, the design is gravy #lrnchat
08:56:52 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) Find ways to provide learning event and/or performance support to end-user at job location. #lrnchat
08:56:54 pm briandusablon: Q2) Don’t always design for lowest common denominator. This alienates your better employees. Work with both (or more) audiences. #lrnchat
08:57:12 pm briandusablon: Simple, ain’t it? RT @TheAirton: Q2} Easy, I ask questions!  No, too easy? #lrnchat
08:57:14 pm minutebio: Q2) Know thy’re responsibilities, learning needs, expectations, etc. & design to them. It should make they’re job easier  #lrnchat
08:57:26 pm criticallearner: RT @koreenolbrish: Q2. I spend 80% time on audience and org analysis, 20% on design. Once you do the analysis, the design is gravy. #lrnchat
08:57:27 pm MaryRNeducator: RT @Quinnovator: q2) hint: find out why the SMEs think it’s interesting; they do this as a passion, tap into it #lrnchat
08:57:31 pm minutebio: RT @briandusablon: Q2) Dont always design for lowest common denominator. This alienates your better employees.. #lrnchat
08:57:39 pm Quinnovator: RT @briandusablon: Q2) Don’t design for lowest common denominator. Alienates your better employees. Work with more audiences. #lrnchat
08:57:47 pm MaryRNeducator: RT @Quinnovator: q2) know thy audience! #lrnchat  (what makes their heart beat faster, get up in the morning, etc) #lrnchat
08:57:49 pm pmtrainer: RT @criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat involve them #lrnchat
08:57:53 pm Ruthie_HB: Q2) Don’t design for one and done. Review audience outputs and constantly redesign as your audience learning develops/changes. #lrnchat
08:58:15 pm minutebio: RT @criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat involve them #lrnchat
08:58:17 pm LnDDave: Q2) User Testing… with actual users. #lrnchat
08:58:29 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @LnDDave: Q2) User Testing… with actual users. #lrnchat
08:58:33 pm pmtrainer: RT @MaryRNeducator: RT @Quinnovator: q2) know thy audience! #lrnchat  (what makes their heart beat faster, get up in the morning) #lrnchat
08:58:42 pm Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q2) User Testing… with actual users. #lrnchat
08:58:48 pm MMTingley: Q2)  Find out about real situations they encounter, and use them in the learning #lrnchat
08:58:53 pm odguru: RT @Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q2) User Testing… with actual users. #lrnchat
08:59:07 pm briandusablon: Q2) Easier to design in chunks and set up for re-use and can be dynamic than to design one thing and push it out to all. #lrnchat
08:59:08 pm Quinnovator: q2) test, test, and test again.  Prototype early and often.  Iterate #lrnchat
08:59:11 pm criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat I like the concept of UX vs UI- design for experience, not screen. Jobs said it best (Design is how it works)
08:59:13 pm pmtrainer: RT @MMTingley: Q2)  Find out about real situations they encounter, and use them in the learning #lrnchat
08:59:16 pm Quinnovator: RT @MMTingley: Q2)  Find out about real situations they encounter, and use them in the learning #lrnchat < bingo!
08:59:22 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @lnddave: Q2) User Testing… with actual users. #lrnchat
08:59:22 pm chet_stevenson: RT @Quinnovator: q2) hint: find out why the SMEs think it’s interesting; they do this as a passion, tap into it #lrnchat
08:59:28 pm minutebio: Q2) Keep in mind what worked for the audience in past courses, or didn’t. Apply what u learned re: design #lrnchat
08:59:38 pm briandusablon: @LnDDave users? what are those? #lrnchat
08:59:50 pm AnotherAnna: RT @chet_stevenson: RT @Quinnovator: q2) hint: find out why the SMEs think its interesting; they do this as a passion, tap into it #lrnchat
08:59:51 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) Keep context (work environment, performance, business cases) in mind. #lrnchat
08:59:57 pm minutebio: RT @pmtrainer: RT @MMTingley: Find out about real situations they encounter, and use them in the learning | Yes, make it relevant  #lrnchat
09:00:07 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @quinnovator: RT @MMTingley: Q2) Find out about real situations they encounter, and use them in the learning #lrnchat < bingo! <…
09:00:25 pm minutebio: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Keep context (work environment, performance, business cases) in mind. #lrnchat
09:00:28 pm LnDDave: RT @briandusablon: @LnDDave users? what are those? #lrnchat < Sooo many responses… none of which are appropriate.
09:00:37 pm TheAirton: RT @criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat involve them
09:00:51 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @minutebio: Q2) Keep in mind what worked for the audience in past courses, or didn’t. Apply what u learned re: design #lrnchat
09:00:53 pm briandusablon: Experiential and real – yes! RT @MMTingley: Q2)  Find out about real situations they encounter, and use them in the learning. #lrnchat
09:00:55 pm Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Keep context (work environment, performance, business cases) in mind. #lrnchat
09:01:07 pm chet_stevenson: RT @Quinnovator: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q2. spend 80% of time on audience & org analysis, 20% on design. Once you do the analysis, the design is gravy #lrnchat
09:01:14 pm odguru: Know your populations and enable people to have a real feeling of efficacy. #Lrnchat
09:01:15 pm criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat Focus on what they must. Back into the design. Get to perf as quick as possible. Design is done when nothing left to take out.
09:01:30 pm Quinnovator: RT @criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat like the concept of UX vs UI design for experience, not screen. Jobs said it best (Design is how it works)
09:02:02 pm Quinnovator: q2) (channeling @criticallearner ) think Learning Experience Design, not content design, instruction design #lrnchat
09:02:10 pm minutebio: Q2) Treat them as self directed learners.  #lrnchat
09:02:22 pm pmtrainer: RT @odguru: Know your populations and enable people to have a real feeling of efficacy. #lrnchat
09:02:24 pm briandusablon: RT @Quinnovator: q2) (channeling @criticallearner ) think Learning Experience Design, not content design, instruction design #lrnchat
09:02:28 pm pmtrainer: RT @minutebio: Q2) Treat them as self directed learners.  #lrnchat
09:02:29 pm criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat and if you want to get crazy- design something that actually gives the users control (layout settings, nav flexibility, etc.)
09:02:58 pm TheAirton: Q2] I use an ADDIE somewhere, just to say I did. #lrnchat
09:03:10 pm chet_stevenson: RT @Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Keep context (work environment, performance, business cases) in mind. #lrnchat
09:03:12 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) What does exemplary performance look like, feel like,impact, when completed? #lrnchat
09:03:17 pm Quinnovator: @TheAirton feeling thirsty, were we?  :) #lrnchat
09:03:32 pm criticallearner: RT @briandusablon RT @Quinnovator: q2) think Learning Experience Design, not content design, instruction design #lrnchat >Performance Design
09:03:37 pm MMTingley: Ha! RT @TheAirton: Q2] I use an ADDIE somewhere, just to say I did. #lrnchat
09:03:55 pm minutebio: RT @criticallearner: you want to get crazy- design something that actually gives users control (layout settings, nav flexibility. #lrnchat
09:04:23 pm criticallearner: RT @mmtingley: Ha! RT @TheAirton: Q2] I use an ADDIE somewhere, just to say I did. #lrnchat >How’s the ROI on that method?
09:04:38 pm odguru: Sounds like user is a new drinking word. #Lrnchat
09:04:40 pm TheAirton: How ’bout just treating them like Grown A#$ Adults RT @minutebio: Q2) Treat them as self directed learners.  #lrnchat
09:05:18 pm briandusablon: @minutebio @criticallearner not always. Too many options can make for a poor user experience. #lrnchat
09:05:35 pm minutebio: Q2) Make EASY to navigate & get 2 exactly what THEY need 2 learn, even if it’s only a small portion of the course.  #lrnchat
09:05:38 pm TheAirton: As I was looking for the cup, I realized Who moved my cheese? #lrnchat
09:05:51 pm LnDDave: Q2) Remember that the SME that is giving design ‘advice’ often has no clue about the actual end user experience. #lrnchat
09:05:56 pm briandusablon: Q2) @minutebio @criticallearner more important to design so they don’t even notice the interface or nav. They just go. #lrnchat
09:06:00 pm Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q2) Remember that the SME that is giving design ‘advice’ often has no clue about the actual end user experience. #lrnchat
09:06:13 pm criticallearner: RT @briandusablon: @minutebio not always. Too many options can make for a poor user experience. #lrnchat > links back to “know thy audience”
09:06:26 pm Quinnovator: @LnDDave and that the SME usually also doesn’t actually have insight anymore into *how* they do what they do #lrnchat
09:06:37 pm pmtrainer: Often Tru RT @LnDDave: Q2) Remember that SME that is giving design advice often has no clue about the actual end user experience. #lrnchat
09:06:54 pm briandusablon: Word. RT @LnDDave: Q2) Remember that the SME that is giving design advice often has no clue about the actual end user experience. #lrnchat
09:07:13 pm LnDDave: @Quinnovator or any clue about design… Why are we talking to SMEs again?!?!? #lrnchat
09:07:25 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) Hopefully “learners” move to a “pull” mentality – more self-directed and focused on identifying their needs  #lrnchat
09:07:42 pm Quinnovator: @LnDDave because we need to *use* them: to a) find out what makes this interesting, and b) to infer the method behind their madness #lrnchat
09:07:47 pm criticallearner: RT @briandusablon: Q2) @minutebio more important to design so they don’t even notice the interface or nav. They just go. #lrnchat >Gold star
09:07:51 pm minutebio: RT @briandusablon: @minutebio @criticallearner mo important 2design so they dont even notice the interface or nav. They just go. #lrnchat
09:07:59 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Hopefully “learners” move to a “pull” mentality – more self-directed and focused on identifying their needs #lrnchat
09:08:05 pm briandusablon: They know things. But keep ‘em away from my canvas. RT @LnDDave: @Quinnovator Why are we talking to SMEs again?!?!? #lrnchat
09:08:09 pm lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the instinct to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
09:08:12 pm LnDDave: @Quinnovator Oh yeah… THAT. ;-) #lrnchat
09:08:21 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the instinct to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
09:08:27 pm TheAirton: I need to ‘check’ a box RT @lnddave: @Quinnovator or any clue about design… Why are we talking to SMEs again?!?!? #lrnchat
09:08:33 pm briandusablon: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the instinct to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
09:08:34 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the instinct to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
09:08:43 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the instinct to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
09:08:46 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the instinct to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
09:08:58 pm briandusablon: Q3) Know your users. And give a damn. #lrnchat
09:09:04 pm TheAirton: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the instinct to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
09:09:08 pm knolinfos: #education #edchat #lrnchat #Twitter How to Use Twitter | @scoopit http://t.co/gVUL6zki
09:09:13 pm Ruthie_HB: @kelly_smith01 learners = sponge (sometimes they need to be reminded too, take learning into their own hands) #lrnchat
09:09:20 pm Quinnovator: q3) professionalism over passion: http://t.co/4Y607tOb #lrnchat
09:09:29 pm AnotherAnna: Q3) see answers to Q2!  #lrnchat
09:09:35 pm criticallearner: @LnDDave Q2> #lrnchat SME Role: “what performance is needed, and what does success look like?” “Thanks. Now get out so I can talk w/users”
09:09:37 pm odguru: RT @criticallearner: RT @briandusablon: Q2) @minutebio more important to design so they don’t even notice the interface or nav. They just go. #lrnchat >Gold star
09:09:40 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the instinct to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
09:09:49 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the instinct to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
09:10:01 pm odguru: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q2. I spend 80% of my time on audience and organizational analysis, 20% on design. Once you do the analysis, the design is gravy. #lrnchat
09:10:03 pm minutebio: Q3) Sharing design with others tru-out process & taking input. Storybrd 2 Implementation #lrnchat
09:10:03 pm chet_stevenson: @Quinnovator @LnDDave As @GuyWallace says, there’s a difference between a SME and an Exemplary performer, there’s a need for both. #lrnchat
09:10:12 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) I’ve learned much about “design for others” from interacting on Social Media esp. Twitter,FB and #lrnchat
09:10:23 pm Quinnovator: q3) measure the user’s engagement, not yours #lrnchat
09:10:38 pm briandusablon: Q3) Seriously. Care. If you care, you will think about your users and design for them. #lrnchat
09:10:39 pm Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: Q3) I’ve learned much about “design for others” from interacting on Social Media esp. Twitter,FB and #lrnchat
09:10:42 pm briandusablon: RT @Quinnovator: q3) measure the users engagement, not yours #lrnchat
09:10:48 pm kelly_smith01: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Seriously. Care. If you care, you will think about your users and design for them. #lrnchat
09:10:51 pm TheAirton: Q3() I’m not paid for me. I’m paid to involve and evolve them. #lrnchat
09:10:52 pm chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the instinct to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
09:11:02 pm criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat Got this beat outta me working in advertising- client reviews resembled skeet shooting (u learn to design for “them” quick)
09:11:04 pm briandusablon: Q3) Back to earlier response – involve your users. Early and often. #lrnchat
09:11:05 pm Quinnovator: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Seriously. Care. If you care, you will think about your users and design for them. #lrnchat < word
09:11:18 pm odguru: Q3) Continually working to understand myself and my motives better. #Lrnchat
09:11:24 pm minutebio: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Seriously. Care. If you care, you will think about your users and design for them. | must care #lrnchat
09:11:26 pm Quinnovator: RT @TheAirton: Q3() I’m not paid for me. I’m paid to involve and evolve them. #lrnchat < nice phrase
09:11:27 pm MMTingley: RT @kelly_smith01: Q3) Ive learned much about “design for others” from interacting on Social Media… #lrnchat
09:11:58 pm LnDDave: Q3) I love to take other’s elearning with my designer hat on – see what they did and why they did it. It expands my ideas. #lrnchat
09:12:06 pm briandusablon: Like this. A lot. > RT @TheAirton: Q3) Im not paid for me. Im paid to involve and evolve them. #lrnchat
09:12:17 pm Ruthie_HB: Q3) Understand that you are an advocate for the learner. #lrnchat
09:12:21 pm Quinnovator: @LnDDave you must have a strong stomach! :) #lrnchat
09:12:46 pm criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat Realize it designed for a perf purpose for OTHERS. Get over yourself and aim for these two needs.
09:12:56 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Ruthie_HB: Q3) Understand that you are an advocate for the learner. #lrnchat
09:13:01 pm briandusablon: Q3) Think about all the other crap they have to take. And then, don’t be THAT guy (or gal). #lrnchat
09:13:13 pm minutebio: Q3) Always learn from the last course design & listen 2 criticism from end-users #lrnchat
09:13:17 pm TheAirton: @quinnovator Thanks. If it’s ever used, just give me a shout out. Mom’s in Brazil would be proud. #lrnchat
09:13:20 pm LnDDave: @Quinnovator True. Some eLearning I take just to make myself feel better about what I’m doing. ;-) #lrnchat
09:13:33 pm LnDDave: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Think about all the other crap they have to take. And then, don’t be THAT guy (or gal). #lrnchat
09:13:43 pm briandusablon: w00t! 3-2 Rangers. (excuse the interruption) #lrnchat
09:13:48 pm criticallearner: RT @quinnovator: @LnDDave you must have a strong stomach! :) #lrnchat > I am detecting a  reference to an old sea of garbage blog ;)
09:13:51 pm briandusablon: RT @minutebio: Q3) Always learn from the last course design & listen 2 criticism from end-users #lrnchat
09:14:03 pm Ruthie_HB: Q3) Goes back to idea of not designing for one and done because for the learner, learning is never done. #lrnchat
09:14:07 pm criticallearner: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Think about all the other crap they have to take. And then, don’t be THAT guy (or gal). #lrnchat > Aces!
09:14:15 pm MMTingley: Q3) My #1 rule – Don’t infantalize the learner. #lrnchat
09:14:19 pm LnDDave: RT @TheAirton: Q3() I’m not paid for me. I’m paid to involve and evolve them. #lrnchat
09:14:25 pm chet_stevenson: Q3) Usability studies #lrnchat
09:14:34 pm minutebio: RT @Ruthie_HB: Q3) Understand that you are an advocate for the learner. | Yes! #lrnchat
09:14:53 pm Quinnovator: q3) pay attention to their *learning styles*.  NOT.  #lrnchat (sorry, just opened another beer and needed a drink)
09:15:07 pm TheAirton: @minutebio Criticism, How dare they? I shall make an elearning to fix the incorrect view of me. #lrnchat
09:15:10 pm briandusablon: Q3) Go outside the industry – how are web designers doing it? How are app developers doing it? Learn from them. #lrnchat
09:15:27 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat Q3> Let them trial, open your ears. Respond (how we did it with UX in web design and way back in ad testing).
09:15:39 pm briandusablon: Q3) Remember it’s about the entire experience. You may not be able to fix everything, but you can make some areas better. #lrnchat
09:15:41 pm Quinnovator: @criticallearner you have a good memory! #lrnchat
09:15:42 pm LnDDave: Q3) I sometimes look at the last couple of projects I’ve done at once, and only them realize patterns I didn’t realized I’d built. #lrnchat
09:16:03 pm minutebio: RT @TheAirton: @minutebio Criticism, How dare they? I shall make an elearning to fix the incorrect view of me. | That’ll show em :) #lrnchat
09:16:13 pm briandusablon: Q3) Learn from peers. Share. Review their work. Have them review yours. #lrnchat
09:16:16 pm TheAirton: Thought I was alone. phhheewwwww  RT @quinnovator:  #lrnchat (sorry, just opened another beer and needed a drink)
09:16:21 pm Quinnovator: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Think about all the other crap they have to take. And then, don’t be THAT guy (or gal). #lrnchat
09:16:28 pm LnDDave: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Learn from peers. Share. Review their work. Have them review yours. #lrnchat
09:16:35 pm pmtrainer: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Remember its about entire experience. You may not be able to fix everything, but can make some areas better. #Lrnchat
09:16:50 pm Quinnovator: q3) design an experience for them, not just a ‘course’ #lrnchat
09:16:54 pm minutebio: RT @LnDDave: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Learn from peers. Share. Review their work. Have them review yours. #lrnchat
09:17:05 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Learn from peers. Share. Review their work. Have them review yours. #lrnchat <– Review, yes!
09:17:14 pm kelly_smith01: RT @minutebio: RT @LnDDave: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Learn from peers. Share. Review their work. Have them review yours. #lrnchat
09:17:16 pm briandusablon: If I only had one post tonight: Q3) Don’t start inside a rapid development tool or PowerPoint. Start with a blank canvas. #lrnchat
09:17:39 pm Quinnovator: q3) make sure they know *who* designed it, as a little motivation for accolades rather than scorn #lrnchat
09:17:43 pm odguru: RT @briandusablon: If I only had one post tonight: Q3) Don’t start inside a rapid development tool or PowerPoint. Start with a blank canvas. #lrnchat
09:17:54 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @quinnovator: q3) design an experience for them, not just a ‘course’ #lrnchat // and that experience should lead to more learning opps.
09:17:59 pm criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat If your user will say “you’re making me work to make this work” it’s a clear sign it doesn’t work.
09:18:06 pm LnDDave: Q3) One of the most valuable things I ever did was anonymously watch someone take a course I built. VERY enlightening. #lrnchat
09:18:28 pm pmtrainer: I love to white-board RT @briandusablon: Q3) Dont start inside a rapid development tool or PowerPoint. Start with a blank canvas. #Lrnchat
09:18:46 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) Wish we could think less about lesson/module/topic and more about job/task/accomplishment #lrnchat
09:18:51 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat If your user will say “you’re making me work to make this work” it’s a clear sign it doesn’t work.
09:19:00 pm Quinnovator: RT @briandusablon: If only had 1 post tonight: Q3) Don’t start inside rapid development tool or PPT. Start with a blank canvas. #lrnchat
09:19:03 pm criticallearner: RT @lnddave: Q3) One of the most valuable things I ever did was anonymously watch someone take a course I built. VERY enlightening. #lrnchat
09:19:07 pm briandusablon: Heh. LMS vendors paying attention? RT @criticallearner: Q3> If users say “you’re making me work to make this work” it doesn’t work. #lrnchat
09:19:14 pm briandusablon: RT @LnDDave: Q3) One of the most valuable things I ever did was anonymously watch someone take a course I built. VERY enlightening. #lrnchat
09:19:44 pm Quinnovator: q3) excite their curiousity, incite their effort, reward their insight #lrnchat
09:19:52 pm criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat See what they use now, what they like. Align #noreinventingthewheel
09:19:57 pm LnDDave: RT @Quinnovator: q3) excite their curiousity, incite their effort, reward their insight #lrnchat
09:20:07 pm pmtrainer: RT @Quinnovator: q3) excite their curiousity, incite their effort, reward their insight #Lrnchat
09:20:15 pm minutebio: RT @LnDDave: 1 of most valuable things ever did ws anonymously watch sum1 take course I built. | Yes, but was tuff for me2 bite lip #lrnchat
09:20:21 pm TheAirton: Q3) No design is perfect. Take feedback, smile , and make better. Then say thanks. #lrnchat
09:20:34 pm Quinnovator: q3) find out what would make it ‘hard fun’ #lrnchat
09:20:36 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) On current job I keep binders of notes on scripts/activities/assessments – helps in development. #lrnchat
09:20:42 pm MaryRNeducator: RT @Quinnovator: q3) design an experience for them, not just a ‘course’ #lrnchat
09:20:51 pm markbrumley: Sample tech project rubric. New article. Share! http://t.co/mG6fXqSZ #lrnchat #teaching
09:20:57 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat See what they use now, what they like. Align #noreinventingthewheel // If it ain’t broke…
09:20:57 pm criticallearner: RT @Quinnovator: q3) excite their curiousity, incite their effort, reward their insight #Lrnchat > sounds like something Jobs would’ve said
09:21:05 pm briandusablon: It’s simple. Ask, & then listen. RT @TheAirton: Q3) No design is perfect. Take feedback, smile , and make better. Then say thanks. #lrnchat
09:21:10 pm criticallearner: RT @maryrneducator: RT @Quinnovator: q3) design an experience for them, not just a ‘course’ #lrnchat
09:21:49 pm TheAirton: Gold! RT @quinnovator: Reward Their Insight #lrnchat
09:21:49 pm Quinnovator: RT @TheAirton: Q3) No design is perfect. Take feedback, smile , and make better. Then say thanks. #lrnchat
09:22:05 pm lrnchat: Q4) How do you evaluate current learning systems? How do you incorporate feedback to continuously improve such systems? #lrnchat
09:22:16 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you evaluate current learning systems? How do you incorporate feedback to continuously improve such systems? #lrnchat
09:22:33 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How evaluate current learning systems? How incorporate feedback to continuously improve such systems? #lrnchat
09:22:36 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat Q3> and for “new directions” start yourself an inspiration file (smashing mag, etc.) but always test users’ reactions
09:22:38 pm pmtrainer: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you evaluate current learning systems? How do you incorporate feedback to continuously improve systems? #Lrnchat
09:23:02 pm MrsC_teach: RT @markbrumley: Sample tech project rubric. New article. Share! http://t.co/mG6fXqSZ #lrnchat #teaching
09:23:04 pm chet_stevenson: Q4) How do you evaluate current learning systems? How do you incorporate feedback to continuously improve such systems? #lrnchat
09:23:08 pm Quinnovator: q4) evaluate usability first, so not interfering. Then educational outcomes. Finally, evaluate engagement.  Next: how to do *that* #lrnchat
09:23:33 pm kelly_smith01: Q4) How do you evaluate current learning systems? How do you incorporate feedback to continuously improve such systems? #lrnchat
09:24:00 pm Quinnovator: q4) evaluating engagement: it’s subjective, just *ask* them. #Lrnchat
09:24:04 pm criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Can they perform as expected? Better than previously? And that metric comes from the biz, not the training.
09:24:07 pm pmtrainer: Q4) contacting mgrs or supervisors to get feedback as to learning transfer to job. Has desired performance improved? #Lrnchat
09:24:19 pm chet_stevenson: Q4) I do a Usability study #lrnchat
09:24:30 pm KoreenOlbrish: Sorry I’ve gotta bow out…giving feedback on 22 game design documents is not easy to balance with the #lrnchat siren song :)
09:24:37 pm minutebio: RT @pmtrainer: Q4) contacting mgrs or supervisors to get feedback as to learning transfer to job. Has desired performance improved? #lrnchat
09:24:42 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: q4) evaluating engagement: it’s subjective, just *ask* them. #Lrnchat
09:24:44 pm briandusablon: Q4) 1) navigate to said learning system. 2) scream and cover eyes. 3) shoot computer. #lrnchat
09:24:56 pm Quinnovator: q4) Set metrics: a) better than a kick in the teeth, b) better than how done now, c) worth $$? eg we’ll take 3 out of 4 saying b) #lrnchat
09:25:13 pm chet_stevenson: Q4) Usability Study, then a Formative Assessment #lrnchat
09:25:19 pm kelly_smith01: RT @briandusablon: Q4) 1) navigate to said learning system. 2) scream and cover eyes. 3) shoot computer. #lrnchat
09:25:30 pm Quinnovator: RT @chet_stevenson: Q4) I do a Usability study #lrnchat < ftw!
09:26:09 pm Quinnovator: RT @pmtrainer: Q4) contacting mgrs or supervisors to get feedback as to learning transfer to job. Has desired performance improved? #Lrnchat
09:26:14 pm briandusablon: Q4) Seriously. Care. Caring leads to meaningful evaluation, assessment, structure. #lrnchat
09:26:26 pm TheAirton: Q4) P1] Surveys do nothing, look into end results. Did 3 move to 4 and so on. P2] Test, feedback, change. Rinse and repeat. #lrnchat
09:26:41 pm go2sali: RT @markbrumley: Sample tech project rubric. New article. Share! http://t.co/mG6fXqSZ #lrnchat #teaching
09:26:50 pm Quinnovator: @pmtrainer that’s penultimate test: leading to behavior change. Ultimate: leading to impact on biz metrics? #Lrnchat
09:26:51 pm briandusablon: Q4) Constant prototyping, usability testing, etc. Involve users – they will LOVE to be on your testing team. #lrnchat
09:27:00 pm criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat A/B testing and control groups work well (A/B for differing approaches).
09:27:05 pm minutebio: Q4) Software training – Call the help desk and make sure those calling r not the 1s who took your course… Hopefully #lrnchat
09:27:17 pm Quinnovator: @pmtrainer but that’s not evaluating engagement (tho’ next to most important measure) #Lrnchat
09:27:33 pm pmtrainer: Q4) there must be a marked change in behavior #Lrnchat
09:27:53 pm LnDDave: Q4) Speaking honestly? I’m like many who evaluate poorly because we’re pressured to move on to the next thing. #lrnchat
09:28:00 pm Ruthie_HB: Q4) Review usage and evaluate disparity, disconnects with learner. Re-examine systems and improve. #lrnchat
09:28:05 pm pmtrainer: Agreed RT @Quinnovator: @pmtrainer thats penultimate test: leading to behavior change. Ultimate: leading to impact on biz metrics? #Lrnchat
09:28:27 pm Quinnovator: @criticallearner actually, prefer to set criteria, and work ’til I achieve (tho if in doubt, A/B works) #lrnchat
09:28:36 pm minutebio: Q4) Call that Kirkpatrick guy. #lrnchat
09:28:53 pm kelly_smith01: Q4) Like usability “studies” with target audience at or very near demographic of learning audience. #lrnchat
09:28:53 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @lnddave: Q4) Speaking honestly? I’m like many who evaluate poorly because we’re pressured to move on to the next thing. #lrnchat
09:28:58 pm Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q4) Speaking honestly? like many who evaluate poorly because we’re pressured to move on to the next thing #lrnchat < sad/true
09:29:25 pm chet_stevenson: @4) Use the Success Case Method (SCM) to evaluate post roll-out #lrnchat
09:29:25 pm pmtrainer: He retired. You’d need to call Jr. :) RT @minutebio: Q4) Call that Kirkpatrick guy. #Lrnchat
09:29:29 pm criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Related to @LnDDave ‘s comment: Also, if the tail wagging the dog metrics is “get the check in the box”, just do it, move on.
09:29:31 pm kelly_smith01: RT @LnDDave: Q4) Speaking honestly? I’m like many who evaluate poorly because we’re pressured to move on to the next thing. #lrnchat
09:29:37 pm ric9901: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
09:29:42 pm briandusablon: RT @Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q4) Speaking honestly? like many who evaluate poorly because we’re pressured to move on to the next thing #lrnchat < sad/true
09:30:28 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
09:30:30 pm criticallearner: RT @quinnovator actually, prefer to set criteria, and work ’til I achieve (tho if in doubt, A/B works) #lrnchat > Agree, A/B for cosmetics
09:30:48 pm sarcasticnem: RT @markbrumley Sample tech project rubric. New article. Share! bit.ly/qIoiOb #lrnchat #teaching #pwsd
09:30:50 pm briandusablon: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating training is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
09:30:50 pm criticallearner: RT @chet_stevenson: @4) Use the Success Case Method (SCM) to evaluate post roll-out #lrnchat
09:30:51 pm TheAirton: RT @minutebio: Q4) Call that Kirkpatrick guy. #lrnchat
09:30:54 pm chet_stevenson: RT @ric9901: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating training is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
09:31:06 pm MMTingley: Q4) We do pay very close attention to feedback, but we are not at the point of being able to test against performance. #lrnchat
09:31:18 pm briandusablon: @criticallearner Not just for cosmetics. Interaction types, interface, information mapping… #lrnchat
09:31:51 pm sarcasticnem: RT @sarcasticnem RT @markbrumley Sample tech project rubric. New article. Share! bit.ly/qIoiOb #lrnchat #teaching #cofp
09:32:18 pm pmtrainer: RT @MMTingley: Q4) We do pay very close attention to feedback, but we’re not at the pt of being able to test against performance. #Lrnchat
09:32:40 pm Quinnovator: @MMTingley um, then how do you know whether it’s actually making a *difference*?  #lrnchat
09:33:15 pm ThisLilParent: The basics of #SEO and #blogging http://t.co/K3OEW1L5 #WAHM #SAHM #SAHD #webmarketing #mktg #internet #lrnchat #career #writing #articles
09:33:30 pm criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Here’s what I use for Level 1′s http://t.co/OesvkeVk
09:33:52 pm delta_dc: Yesterday’s post: Metacognitive Memoirs – what are they?

http://t.co/crljvDDh

#edchat #mathchat #engchat #lrnchat #spnchat
09:34:10 pm pmtrainer: RT @criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Heres what I use for Level 1s http://t.co/rWuvnxbP #Lrnchat
09:34:18 pm Quinnovator: RT @criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Here’s what I use for Level 1′s http://t.co/kaaj5Sx6 < as long as it’s *all* flushed ;)
09:34:39 pm briandusablon: @ThisLilParent Please don’t spam our little chat. Not cool. #lrnchat
09:35:07 pm criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Measure and remeasure. Also, remember Ebbinghaus/Medina. Skills will atrophy. Pulse “refreshers” and get new data/feedback.
09:35:18 pm TheAirton: LMAO Top 10 Tweet! Getting these out tomorrow. RT @criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Here’s what I use for Level 1′s http://t.co/BCYJSDlb
09:35:52 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Here’s what I use for Level 1′s http://t.co/XJJo042I < As they say K.I.S.S. :)
09:36:03 pm lrnchat: Q5) What tools do you use to design (not build) learning/performance support? What tools for A/B testing? Analytics? Prototyping? #lrnchat
09:36:17 pm minutebio: Q4)  #lrnchat
09:36:25 pm MMTingley: @Quinnovator honestly we are doing well if people say they weren’t bored. #lrnchat
09:37:08 pm briandusablon: Posted earlier today > Q5) Why You Only Need to Test with 5 Users http://t.co/pE2PyEqv #lrnchat
09:37:11 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What tools do you use to design (not build) learning/performance support? What tools for A/B testing? Analytics? Prototyping? #lrnchat
09:37:37 pm criticallearner: RT @mmtingley: @Quinnovator honestly we are doing well if people say they weren’t bored. #lrnchat > Oy! (been there) Move them up the chain!
09:37:40 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What tools do u use 2 design (not build) learning/perfmance support? Tools -A/B testing? Analytics? Prototyp.. #lrnchat
09:37:51 pm Quinnovator: @ThisLilParent  @delta_dc  @knolinfos  @markbrumley @sarcasticnem either participate or stay away, but don’t spam  #lrnchat
09:38:04 pm TheAirton: Q5) Crayons and finger paint #lrnchat
09:38:06 pm briandusablon: Q5) @tomkuhlmann on usability: http://t.co/86XsJCuL #lrnchat
09:38:08 pm MMTingley: It’s a fairly new org – reaching beyond powerpoint is a big step up
#lrnchat
09:38:13 pm pmtrainer: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What tools do you use to design (not build) learning/performance support? for A/B testing? Analytics? Prototyping? #Lrnchat
09:38:42 pm Quinnovator: @MMTingley wrong metric. nice if they’re not bored, but how know it’s affecting business? #lrnchat < sympathetic, but…
09:38:50 pm criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat analytics + perf measures. Over and over. We see dips, we analyze to sharpen where support is needed. Refreshers. New measures.
09:39:11 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @theairton: Q5) Crayons and finger paint #lrnchat // Stick figures can express a lot!
09:39:12 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What tools to design (not build) learning/performance support? What tools for A/B testing? Analytics? Prototyping? #lrnchat
09:39:19 pm briandusablon: @MMTingley all the more reason you can have a big influence. New orgs are easiers to change than old ones. #lrnchat
09:39:53 pm briandusablon: Q5) http://t.co/3k0HU83x #lrnchat
09:40:18 pm MMTingley: Happily, yes > RT @briandusablon: @MMTingley all the more reason you can have a big influence.  #lrnchat
09:40:43 pm briandusablon: Q5) My PLN. #lrnchat
09:41:44 pm Quinnovator: RT @MMTingley: Happily, yes > RT @briandusablon: @MMTingley all the more reason you can have a big influence.  #lrnchat < yay!
09:41:51 pm TheAirton: Q5] White boards and arguments for design. Sample users. #lrnchat
09:41:57 pm apetroski: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
09:42:10 pm chet_stevenson: Q5) What tools do you use to design (not build) learning/performance support? What tools for A/B testing? Analytics? Prototyping? #lrnchat
09:42:25 pm criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Wireframes and basic prototypes. Let users chew them up. Post-deployment redesign info from usage (analytics) and biz results
09:42:40 pm marciamarcia: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” 1+ #lrnchat
09:42:48 pm Quinnovator: q5) use low-fi tools, diagramming (omnigraffle), MS office suite, Keynote.  #Lrnchat
09:43:37 pm MMTingley: Q5) Best tool is digital recorder – people’s stories tell me the most.  #lrnchat
09:43:38 pm briandusablon: Encourage the arguments! (but call them discussions) :-) RT @TheAirton: Q5] White boards and arguments for design. Sample users. #lrnchat
09:43:45 pm Quinnovator: q5) post-its, paper, whiteboards, flipcharts, html, keep prototyping investment low as long as possible #lrnchat
09:43:49 pm chet_stevenson: RT @Quinnovator: q5) use low-fi tools, diagramming (omnigraffle), MS office suite, Keynote.  #lrnchat
09:43:52 pm Ruthie_HB: Q5) Would love to use quick-and-dirty pics depicting task/learning object etc. Better sense of learner experience. #lrnchat
09:43:56 pm criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Following the “Apple stuff just makes sense” route, I got some design kits for Apple style mockups- and, it just makes sense.
09:44:01 pm doctorjeff: SM DAILY NEWS: regarding SM, many districts follow ed path of least resistance, when in doubt ban it …. #edchat #lrnchat #gtchat
09:44:03 pm disneydad2: RT @briandusablon: Q1) They love it if they get just what they need, right when they need it. Complain about compliance training. Normal. #lrnchat
09:44:12 pm chet_stevenson: RT @Quinnovator: q5) post-its, paper, whiteboards, flipcharts, html, keep prototyping investment low as long as possible #lrnchat
09:44:51 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: q5) post-its, paper, whiteboards, flipcharts, html, keep prototyping investment low as long as possible #lrnchat
09:45:04 pm criticallearner: Q5) #lrnchat Best UX tool- use cases or scenarios from the field/business. Repackage and re-serve.
09:45:07 pm chet_stevenson: I agree with @Quinnovator – Prefer low-tech options. I prefer to put things on actual paper first. #lrnchat
09:45:12 pm disneydad2: RT @briandusablon: Q1) I’m pushing more performance support than training. 1) give users what they want. 2) don’t have to go through LMS to access. #lrnchat
09:45:14 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @quinnovator: q5) post-its, paper, whiteboards, flipcharts, html, keep prototyping investment low as long as possible #lrnchat
09:45:33 pm MMTingley: Thinking photo storyboard here RT @Ruthie_HB: Q5) Would love to use quick-and-dirty pics depicting task/learning object etc.  #lrnchat
09:46:11 pm Quinnovator: RT @TheAirton: Q5] White boards and arguments for design. Sample users. #lrnchat
09:46:27 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @mmtingley: Thinking photo storyboard here RT @Ruthie_HB: Q5) Would love to use quick-and-dirty pics depicting task… #lrnchat // Yes!
09:46:38 pm Quinnovator: @doctorjeff if you’re not joining #lrnchat, kindly don’t post during the chat, ok?
09:46:55 pm kelly_smith01: I use my  flow charting system which consists of a Big Chief Tablet and a couple of multicolored pends. #lrnchat
09:47:20 pm Quinnovator: apologies, but getting stroppy about the bloody spamming in #Lrnchat, please excuse the messages
09:48:06 pm MMTingley: @Quinnovator  Stroppy?  #lrnchat
09:48:20 pm criticallearner: Yeesh, #lrnchat looks like the kingdom of Spamalot tonight. Might have to get my uber-hacker security pro friends to send some things ;)
09:49:29 pm Quinnovator: @MMTingley Aussie expression meaing sorta ‘grumpy’ (contamination from my 7 years down under) #lrnchat
09:49:35 pm odguru: RT @briandusablon: Encourage the arguments! (but call them discussions) :-) RT @TheAirton: Q5] White boards and arguments for design. Sample users. #lrnchat
09:49:40 pm TheAirton: New tool idea, thks RT @ruthie_hb: Q5) Would love to use quick-and-dirty pics depicting task/learning object etc.. #lrnchat
09:49:54 pm criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Because it’s accessible, I’ve even designed basic design flows in PPT for users to click thru for initial reactions.
09:50:03 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Please reintroduce yourself. Share links, requests & shameless plugs. #lrnchat
09:50:04 pm Quinnovator: @criticallearner if you’ve got those sort of friends, I’ve got another target or two… :) #lrnchat
09:50:05 pm briandusablon: @Quinnovator I wouldn’t call it contamination. :) #lrnchat
09:50:12 pm MMTingley: @Quinnovator Love it! #lrnchat
09:50:28 pm briandusablon: Dirty pics? Oh, wait. RT @TheAirton @ruthie_hb: Q5) Would love to use quick-and-dirty pics depicting task/learning object etc.. #lrnchat
09:50:43 pm chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Please reintroduce yourself. Share links, requests & shameless plugs. #lrnchat
09:51:00 pm odguru: RT @Quinnovator: q5) post-its, paper, whiteboards, flipcharts, html, keep prototyping investment low as long as possible #lrnchat
09:51:05 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Because it’s accessible, I’ve even designed basic design flows in PPT for users to click thru for…
09:51:10 pm briandusablon: @criticallearner Yes – show them the interaction flow. See if they follow. #lrnchat
09:51:33 pm chrisstjohn: Qwrap: Chris StJohn: Goverati @ DAU, the WalMart of Learning. Sunday Avatarian and supporter of the Rebel Alliance (usually) #lrnchat
09:51:33 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, enjoying an evening of social learning via a social media #lrnchat
09:52:20 pm chet_stevenson: chester stevenson, IPT Grad student at Boise State, One Stop Shop #lrnchat
09:52:38 pm TheAirton: LOL! RT @briandusablon: Dirty pics? Oh, wait. #lrnchat
09:52:39 pm writegrrl: RT @marciamarcia: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” 1+ #lrnchat
09:52:54 pm Ruthie_HB: @criticallearner Key! re: click thru for inital reactions, esp. if program is computer-based. user exp. diff. w/ mouse, keystrokes. #lrnchat
09:52:58 pm briandusablon: QWrap) I’m Brian Dusablon. I care about users. I’m talking about it at #DevLearn next week. http://t.co/apYcspu1 #lrnchat
09:53:12 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman – eLearning Designer in B’more.  Hope to c many of u at #DevLearn next week. #lrnchat
09:53:15 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat wrap> http://t.co/HbFDGilH Shameless plug for the work @LnDDave (the cooler David) does with backchannels.  Dave Glow, Tampa, FL
09:53:15 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, evil genius, consultant/author/speaker, genial malcontent, & learning experience design strategist extraordinaire #lrnchat
09:53:47 pm Quinnovator: amazed that it’s that time again, thanks for another wild and wooly #lrnchat to new and returning participants!
09:53:56 pm briandusablon: QWrap) Also, check out @emergentradio. @jkunrein and I drink beer. Oh, and we talk about usability, accessibility, tools, and more. #lrnchat
09:54:18 pm Ruthie_HB: Qwrap) Ruth here, always looking fwd to the next #lrnchat! Wish could join those live at #devlearn.
09:54:54 pm kelly_smith01: Thanks for the last 90 minutes #lrnchat
09:54:55 pm minutebio: @Quinnovator Only a little evil, right? #lrnchat
09:54:58 pm MMTingley: Melissa Tingley, eLearning ID, digital storyteller, and general eduGeek, Boston.
#lrnchat
09:55:04 pm Ruthie_HB: @briandusablon Lol. Not that type of “dirty”. #lrnchat
09:55:08 pm criticallearner: RT @briandusablon: check out @emergentradio. @jkunrein and I drink beer. Oh, and talk about usability, tools, and more. #lrnchat >gr8 stuff
09:55:21 pm TheAirton: Qwrap) Sith (low order) Airton, fun, non-user of speedos, and always fun learning from new and old tweeters in the #lrnchat
09:55:34 pm briandusablon: RT @criticallearner: #lrnchat wrap> http://t.co/HbFDGilH Shameless plug for the work @LnDDave (the cooler David) does with backchannels.  Dave Glow, Tampa, FL
09:56:04 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @quinnovator: amazed that it’s that time again, thanks for another wild and wooly #lrnchat to new and returning participants!
09:56:30 pm Quinnovator: @minutebio depends. To sacred cows, entrenched myths, etc, I’m pretty evil; otherwise, no :) #lrnchat (and not much of a genius either :)
09:57:01 pm briandusablon: QWrap) Remember the user, folks. It’s been fun. Thanks for the great dialogue. Cheers! #lrnchat
09:57:08 pm TheAirton: @mmtingley You tweeted it wrong, it’s Bahstun! Go Pats! Anything NY sucks! #lrnchat
09:58:08 pm marciamarcia: Marcia Conner, #lrnchat founder, travel’s been keeping me away for last few weeks. Look forward to next week here again.  #lrnchat
09:58:20 pm Quinnovator: RT @briandusablon: check out @emergentradio..@jkunrein and I drink beer. And talk about usability, accessibility, tools, & more #lrnchat
09:58:52 pm minutebio: @Quinnovator Good 2 know :) Hope 2 c you at devlearn. Have a g8 night. #lrnchat
09:59:02 pm lrnchat: Thanks for joining #lrnchat tonight. We’ll post the transcript on http://t.co/O8x38OGR See you from #DevLearn next Thursday!
10:00:16 pm randy_ramsey: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
10:00:17 pm MMTingley: @TheAirton Hmm, no Peyton to kick around this year – focus on Eli? #lrnchat
10:00:39 pm briandusablon: @minutebio find me, too, Jeff. Don’t think we’ve met in person. See you there! #lrnchat
10:00:42 pm minutebio: RT @briandusablon: Remember the user | Thought it was “Remember the Maine,” but this works 2 #lrnchat
10:01:19 pm TriciaRansom: UGH!!! I cannot believe that I missed #lrnchat tonight!!! Transcripts, here I come.
10:01:37 pm briandusablon: “Remember the Alamo” for me :) RT @minutebio: RT @briandusablon: Remember the user | Thought it was “Remember the Maine” #lrnchat
10:01:57 pm marciamarcia: Participated in great #IBMsocbiz webinar today on social learning, not social training. All about learning as part of work. #joyous #lrnchat
10:02:11 pm minutebio: RT @briandusablon: find me, too, Jeff. Dont think weve met in person. See you there! | We hv not. Look fwd 2 mtg u. Safe travels #lrnchat
10:02:52 pm TheAirton: Beavis and Butthead is on brain is off. #lrnchat
10:04:15 pm briandusablon: @marciamarcia that sounds nice. Looking forward to learning more. #lrnchat

Transcript 13 October 2011(Late)

October 14, 2011

8:30:00 pm lrnchat: Welcome to #lrnchat! How have you been?
08:30:50 pm kelly_smith01: Is a slew of Tweets like a flock of geeses? #lrnchat #Millersanalogies
08:31:13 pm billcush: Definitely not! RT @TheAirton: ADDIE! Too early?  @criticallearner: #lrnchat
08:31:51 pm billcush: Hope you feel better! RT @TriciaRansom: It’s  #lrnchat tonight and I’m feeling so awful from this cold I might miss it. Drats.
08:33:29 pm marciamarcia: RT @kelly_smith01: Is a slew of Tweets like a flock of geeses? #lrnchat #Millersanalogies #lrnchat
08:34:00 pm TheAirton: Good I’m 2+ already RT @billcush: Definitely not! RT @TheAirton: ADDIE! Too early?  @criticallearner: #lrnchat
08:34:58 pm minutebio: @kelly_smith01 Isn’t it a gaggle of geese? So, gaggle of tweets? #lrnchat
08:35:25 pm marciamarcia: Marcia Conner, founder of this there geeseflock, thrilled to join you for a bit before boybedtime.  #lrnchat
08:35:47 pm minutebio: @kelly_smith01 Oops – gaggle of tweet… got ya #lrnchat
08:36:05 pm billcush: Let me help…Kirkpatrick! RT @TheAirton: Good I’m 2+ already ..RT @TheAirton: ADDIE! Too early?  @criticallearner: #lrnchat
08:36:32 pm marciamarcia: @TriciaRansom: Hope you feel better soon! #lrnchat
08:37:51 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, freelancing some e-learning  – Texas but have VPM #lrnchat
08:38:55 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, freelancing some e-learning – Texas but have VPN #lrnchat  oops..
08:39:31 pm MMTingley: Trying to participate tonight, but I think the Internet is broken. #lrnchat
08:40:42 pm kellygarber: @billcush: Kirkpatrick! @TheAirton: ADDIE!  @criticallearner < be careful, we don’t want to make either a trending topic! <drink> #lrnchat
08:40:56 pm criticallearner: David Glow, Tampa, FL- enjoying all mentions of learning styles, ADDIE, Kirkpatrick- excuse typos as #lrnchat goes on.
08:41:35 pm kelly_smith01: Participating in “Occupy ADDIE” #lrnchat
08:42:30 pm billcush: That depends….RT @kellygarber: Kirkpatrick! @TheAirton: ADDIE!  @criticallearner don’t want to make either a trending topic! #lrnchat
08:42:45 pm kellygarber: Kelly Garber here, Gulfport-FL (the better side of the bay @criticallearner) – instructional designer. #lrnchat
08:42:53 pm TheAirton: Drinks  +3 +4 #lrnchat
08:43:12 pm billcush: Tweet of the day! RT @kelly_smith01: Participating in “Occupy ADDIE” #lrnchat
08:44:06 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman – eLearning Designer/Developer running a one person shop in Baltimore #lrnchat
08:44:40 pm jmarrapodi: Q0 Jean Marrapodi Learning Architect working at the intersection of high tech and low literacy. On my iPhone from Providence, RI  #lrnchat
08:44:51 pm benbutina: RT @kelly_smith01: Participating in “Occupy ADDIE”…this is what is great about the Internet: the specificity of the nerdiness. #lrnchat
08:45:17 pm marciamarcia: @billcush @kelly_smith01 Sadly, that’s still better than Occupy Kirkpatrick.  #lrnchat
08:45:45 pm ReubenTozman: sorry I’m late. Reuben Tozman from edCetra – irrelevant and irreverent #lrnchat
08:46:26 pm billcush: Nice! RT @marciamarcia: @billcush @kelly_smith01 Sadly, that’s still better than Occupy Kirkpatrick.  #lrnchat
08:46:44 pm aaronesilvers: Aaron Silvers. Chicago. Tweeting and eating tonight.  #lrnchat
08:47:09 pm ThomasStone: Me too… at least the “being late” part RT @ReubenTozman: sorry I’m late. Reuben Tozman from edCetra – irrelevant and irreverent #lrnchat
08:47:14 pm ReubenTozman: RT @MMTingley: Trying to participate tonight, but I think the Internet is broken. – sorry…I broke it
#lrnchat
08:47:15 pm MMTingley: Melissa Tingley, eLearning ID and general edu-geek, Boston #lrnchat
08:47:42 pm ThomasStone: Thomas Stone, from Rochester, NY. Senior Research Analyst with Taleo Research. Hello fellow #lrnchat folks!
08:48:18 pm marciamarcia: Hmm… where are those questions? Off to check. BRB. #lrnchat
08:48:26 pm ReubenTozman: @ThomasStone you sir are relevant and irreverent…you beat me on relevance #lrnchat
08:48:31 pm cammybean: #lrnchat Cammy Bean. Putting kids to bed and pondering relevancy.
08:49:13 pm maubuchler: Mau Buchler instructional designer on the road :) #lrnchat
08:49:17 pm kellygarber: RT @marciamarcia: Hmm… where are those questions? Off to check. BRB. <- you mean there is more to do tonight then drink? #lrnchat
08:49:23 pm ReubenTozman: RT @cammybean: #lrnchat Cammy Bean. Putting kids to bed and pondering relevancy. – I strap mine down #lrnchat
08:49:39 pm aaronesilvers: @cammybean ponder no longer. You are relevant. #lrnchat
08:51:04 pm ThomasStone: Attended a good GV ASTD event tonight: Donna Rawady (@drawady) on “Leadership Development: It Ain’t for Sissies!” #lrnchat #astd
08:51:11 pm lrnchat: We’re hoping you knew to chat and tell us how you’re doing. Sneak in sometime what you learned this week. #lrnchat
08:51:25 pm kelly_smith01: Rules we don’t need any stinking rules.  #lrnchat
08:51:36 pm TheAirton: Airton, mouskateer, do learning things in Orlando for a university, mini-mogul #OccupyADDIE #lrnchat
08:51:39 pm cammybean: @ReubenTozman Well tonight there’s been a panic over a missing stuffed dog. #lrnchat
08:51:41 pm lrnchat: We skipped the #lrnchat rules tonight. If you’re new around here and need em, check out http://t.co/RTLmsBiF
08:52:01 pm sogarlene: Q0 I learned I may actually enjoy my educational research class this quarter. #lrnchat
08:52:57 pm ReubenTozman: q0) First LMS was built in 1959 #lrnchat
08:53:05 pm cammybean: #lrnchat I learned…about learning stuff. It was all relevant.
08:53:19 pm kelly_smith01: Q0) Had a meeting with people in 4 different time zone one zone was in Europe. #lrnchat
08:53:40 pm benbutina: Ben Butina. Instructional Designer in Pittsburgh. Probably be in and out. #lrnchat
08:53:56 pm kelly_smith01: RT @reubentozman: q0) First LMS was built in 1959 #lrnchat  –> And version 1.1 is available next week.
08:53:59 pm ReubenTozman: q0) Lotus notes is a direct offshoot from the first LMS – which had integrated note taking #lrnchat
08:54:22 pm criticallearner: @reubentozman #lrnchat- First LMS built in ’59, too many still using the same specs from ’59.
08:54:25 pm LnDDave: Greetings #lrnchat, David Kelly from NYC popping in a bit for the evening session while I pack for #ASTDALC
08:54:30 pm lrnchat: Q1) Do training departments have the same influence today that they had 5 years ago? #lrnchat
08:54:40 pm ReubenTozman: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @reubentozman: q0) First LMS was built in 1959 #lrnchat  –> And version 1.1 is available next week->lol #lrnchat
08:54:46 pm kellygarber: RT @ReubenTozman: q0) First LMS was built in 1959 <– and hasn’t changed since. #lrnchat
08:54:48 pm maubuchler: Q0) Built in a methodology for ESL online #lrnchat
08:54:49 pm jmarrapodi: RT @ReubenTozman: q0) First LMS was built in 1959 #lrnchat
08:55:38 pm minutebio: Learned 2day – No 1 volunteers to b a fire marshal @ work, it doesn’t come w uniform & I’m gettin even w sum1 #lrnchat
08:55:47 pm kotch62: RT @emasie: Archive of Masie Webinar: 7 Learning Challenges for 2012 http://t.co/OGhAtxPM  #lrnchat #edtech #elearning #mlearning #astd #clo #hr #l2011
08:55:49 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Do training departments have the same influence today that they had 5 years ago? #lrnchat
08:55:52 pm ReubenTozman: RT @kellygarber: RT @ReubenTozman: q0) First LMS was built in 1959 <– and hasnt changed since.- actually it got worse over time #lrnchat
08:56:02 pm JaneBozarth: Geez I come in 20 minutes late and you’re already 80 minutes into the party.  #lrnchat
08:56:14 pm sogarlene: Q1) My experience… more influence as we partner with mgmt to address their strategic and operational challenges #lrnchat
08:56:23 pm cammybean: #lrnchat q1) Now that’s an interesting question!
08:56:36 pm JaneBozarth: I come in a few minutes late and find out @kelly_smith01 already had tweet of the night  #lrnchat
08:56:52 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Do training departments have the same influence today that they had 5 years ago? #lrnchat
08:57:00 pm marciamarcia: @cammybean <3 #lrnchat
08:57:12 pm ReubenTozman: q1) Training departments will always lack influence as training departments #lrnchat
08:57:34 pm minutebio: Q1) Hv seen training depts have less influence b/c they cannot deliver as quick as the web and SoMe can. #lrnchat
08:57:39 pm jmarrapodi: Q0) learned that some people just don’t get scenario based learning & crucify class when they teach w/ their attitude. #lrnchat
08:57:55 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Do training departments have the same influence today that they had 5 years ago? #lrnchat
08:57:57 pm JaneBozarth: q1 no. learners now have tools/ability to circumvent what’s prescribed and get what they need/want . JIT learning is finally real.  #lrnchat
08:58:07 pm jmarrapodi: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Do training departments have the same influence today that they had 5 years ago? #lrnchat
08:58:33 pm marciamarcia: This week I learned about the Goldilocks Zone: space where earth resides btwn the sun & cold that’s “just right” #lrnchat
08:58:38 pm benbutina: Q1) Don’t training departments always lose influence (and money and staff and resources) during economic downturns? #lrnchat
08:58:44 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Since I’m a freelancer I cannot say from experience – but still see a proliferation a focus on knowledge not performance. #lrnchat
08:58:52 pm cammybean: RT @minutebio: Q1) Hv seen training depts have less influence b/c they cannot deliver as quick as the web and SoMe can. #lrnchat
08:58:54 pm TheAirton: Q1) no change no influence :(   #lrnchat btw night chat is better that day. Maybe due to drinks!
08:58:55 pm criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat L&D Depts have potential to be MORE relevant than ever. Now what they do with the opportunity…
08:59:18 pm jmarrapodi: @maubuchler Have you seen ELL-U? Awesome stuff. #lrnchat
08:59:22 pm ReubenTozman: RT @criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat L&D Depts have potential to be MORE relevant than ever. Now what they do with the opportunity… #lrnchat
08:59:33 pm jmarrapodi: RT @minutebio: Q1) Hv seen training depts have less influence b/c they cannot deliver as quick as the web and SoMe can. #lrnchat
08:59:44 pm MMTingley: RT @criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat L&D Depts have potential to be MORE relevant than ever. Now what they do with the opportunity… #lrnchat
08:59:50 pm kellygarber: Q1: I don’t think departments have influence – training or otherwise. People though …can be very influential.  #lrnchat
09:00:10 pm JaneBozarth: RT @kelly_smith01: Q1)… still see a proliferation a focus on knowledge not performance. #lrnchat
09:00:25 pm Spongelab: Prepare for Halloween with Zombie science Facts: Real and Imagined (Infographic) http://t.co/RWnNHJrB #edtech #edchat #lrnchat #scichat
09:00:25 pm criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat more change in the world than ever, executed by people, needing skills- partnering right, train dept can be v. influential
09:00:55 pm ThomasStone: Q1) They had influence five years ago? Bum-bum, ching!  I kid. Seriously I’d say *more* influence today IF they have evolved. #lrnchat
09:00:59 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Seems like some are acknowledging social media but maybe not know how to deal with social learning. #lrnchat
09:01:01 pm ReubenTozman: RT @kellygarber: Q1: I dont think departments have influence – training or otherwise. People though …can be very influential.  #lrnchat
09:01:09 pm JaneBozarth: @ReubenTozman @criticallearner: they’ve always had ‘potential’… #lrnchat
09:01:13 pm cammybean: #lrnchat q1) doesn’t someone in these parts claim that…gasp…the training dept is dead?
09:01:14 pm minutebio: Q1) Those depts that act more as consultants than just “trainers” usually hv more influence in orgs #lrnchat
09:01:29 pm jmarrapodi: Q1) Have seen training depts lose focus in improving performance and think about Talent Management.  #lrnchat
09:01:41 pm JaneBozarth: @criticallearner can. are they, though?
#lrnchat
09:01:46 pm marciamarcia: Training depts have lost influence b/c there are so many options on how/where to learn. Training is just one. #lrnchat
09:02:22 pm sogarlene: Q1) I’m lucky to be in a place that values learning. My experience may be twisted (in a good way) #lrnchat
#lrnchat
09:02:26 pm jmarrapodi: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @kelly_smith01: Q1)… still see a proliferation a focus on knowledge not performance. #lrnchat
09:02:41 pm JD_Dillon: 1) Learning orgs have the OPPORTUNITY to have more influence. #lrnchat
09:02:42 pm minutebio: RT @ReubenTozman: RT @kellygarber: dont think depts hv influence – training or otherwise. People tho …can be very influential.  #lrnchat
09:03:03 pm criticallearner: @JaneBozarth #lrnchat- yes, many are evolving, capitalizing on the tools and environments that were not possible 5 yrs ago.
09:03:06 pm MMTingley: Shouldn’t that be the same thing? RT @jmarrapodi: Q1) … lose focus in improving performance and think about Talent Management.  #lrnchat
09:03:07 pm ReubenTozman: q1) Training departments have always sh*t on themselves by siloing themselves. The whole exercise of building a separtate ROI model #lrnchat
09:03:07 pm ThomasStone: By evolve, I mean modernizing blended learning w/ social, etc. Saying no to some training requests & providing perf. supp. instead #lrnchat
09:03:32 pm EvilSue: oooooooh ouchies! Response Cammy? RT @cammybean: #lrnchat q1) doesn’t someone in these parts claim that…gasp…the training dept is dead?
09:03:43 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Think training departments fear user control/choice or the whole PULL approach. #lrnchat
09:03:52 pm cammybean: RT @marciamarcia: Training depts have lost influence b/c there are so many options on how/where to learn. Training is just one. #lrnchat
09:04:03 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) I think depts lost much “political capital” over last 5 years by being order takers rather than advocates for learners  #lrnchat
09:04:12 pm JaneBozarth: @criticallearner ok #lrnchat
09:04:15 pm lrnchat: Q2) What did you think the training department would have accomplished by now? #lrnchat
09:04:15 pm criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat- since information is more democratized and readily available, training can focus on performance issues (vs info delivery)
09:04:23 pm minutebio: Q1) Depts need 2 influence BOTH their learners & management/execs. Prob is too many only influence 1 of them #lrnchat
09:04:28 pm ReubenTozman: q1) I disagree that training depts have the potential. They must cease to be training departments if they want influence/impact #lrnchat
09:04:29 pm JD_Dillon: 1) Tech advancements and #SoMe give learning orgs a greater reach and opportunity to influence performance. #lrnchat
09:04:31 pm TheAirton: I got a shovel RT @cammybean: #lrnchat q1) doesn’t someone in these parts claim that…gasp…the training dept is dead?
09:04:36 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What did you think the training department would have accomplished by now? #lrnchat
09:04:45 pm criticallearner: RT @minutebio: Q1) Depts need 2 influence BOTH their learners & management/execs. Prob is too many only influence 1 of them #lrnchat
09:04:46 pm JaneBozarth: RT @marciamarcia: Training depts have lost influence b/c there are so many options on how/where to learn. Training is just one. #lrnchat
09:04:51 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What did you think the training department would have accomplished by now? #lrnchat
09:04:54 pm benbutina: @TriciaRansom Sometimes the learners fight against being advocated for. They have eaten junk for so long, it tastes good to them. #lrnchat
09:05:28 pm JaneBozarth: too long to RT but what @ReubenTozman said.  #lrnchat
09:05:32 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What did you think the training department would have accomplished by now? #lrnchat
09:05:39 pm kellygarber: Q2: does this question assume we voted less influence for Q1? (I’m resisting this line of questions, i think)  #lrnchat
09:05:42 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What did you think the training department would have accomplished by now? #lrnchat
09:05:50 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) By now, training should have established reliable resources and tools for frontline employees. #lrnchat
09:05:52 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What did you think the training department would have accomplished by now? #lrnchat
09:05:57 pm jmarrapodi: RT @MMTingley Shouldn’t that be the same thing? unfortunately  improving perf ain’t talent management.  Too often just competencies #lrnchat
09:06:00 pm sogarlene: @kelly_smith01 ah, the “need to know” syndrome. Tried action mapping with some success. http://t.co/sWdh0v9j #lrnchat
09:06:02 pm MMTingley: Q1) Just now noticing distinction btw Training Dept and, say, Learning Team. #lrnchat
09:06:23 pm EvilSue: RT @marciamarcia: Training depts have lost influence b/c there are so many options on how/where to learn. Training is just one. #lrnchat
09:06:36 pm britz: Q1) I think influence has grown …supported by the Training Industrial complex of course – its a BIG machine ppl #lrnchat
09:06:43 pm benbutina: Q2) Everything that was supposed to be the “next big thing” when I started 11 years ago is still just around the corner. #lrnchat
09:06:44 pm cammybean: #lrnchat q2) Heaven on earth, that’s what I’ve been expecting. Or at least more evolved cyborgs. At the very least better chotckes.
09:06:47 pm JaneBozarth: q2 I thought there’d be more, better online learning in place by now. #lrnchat
09:06:50 pm ReubenTozman: q2) Figured out that training is a subset of performance support (operations) and not vice versa #lrnchat
09:06:51 pm criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat I think the training dept (industry) would’ve accomplished NOT using PPT as a starting point by now #gunsdon’tkillbulletlistsdo
09:07:15 pm JaneBozarth: RT @ReubenTozman: q2) Figured out that training is a subset of performance support (operations) and not vice versa #lrnchat
09:07:40 pm minutebio: Q2) depts shld know by now what works online and what is best left in the traditional classroom.  #lrnchat
09:07:43 pm mobilelearning: RT @kelly_smith01: Rules we don’t need any stinking rules.  #lrnchat
09:07:46 pm britz: RT @JaneBozarth: q2 I thought thered be more, better online learning in place by now. #lrnchat
09:07:49 pm MMTingley: HA! RT @criticallearner: Q2> #gunsdontkillbulletlistsdo #lrnchat
09:07:50 pm minutebio: RT @JaneBozarth: q2 I thought thered be more, better online learning in place by now. #lrnchat
09:07:52 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) Hope they see the power of creating pathways to knowledge, expertise and performance improvement – not just creating learning. #lrnchat
09:07:54 pm criticallearner: RT @reubentozman: q2) Figured out that training is a subset of performance support (operations) and not vice versa #lrnchat
09:07:56 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) by now training should have predictable processes for developing quality materials, not bad PPTs for everything. #lrnchat
09:08:12 pm ReubenTozman: RT @JaneBozarth: q2 I thought thered be more, better online learning in place by now. ->Youdda thunk eh? #lrnchat
09:08:13 pm kellygarber: Q2: Training dept objectives are not their own – they align with the business unit/company objectives. (or should) #lrnchat
09:08:18 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) World domination…oh wait, this is bout training dept, not me… #lrnchat
09:08:41 pm cammybean: #lrnchat q2 Figured out that learning happens everywhere you look. especially not in a classroom.
09:08:42 pm purplelearn: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Do training departments have the same influence today that they had 5 years ago? #lrnchat
09:08:42 pm criticallearner: Q2) #lrnchat I think industry would’ve accomplished using training to drive strategic bus. objectives vs “proving compliance”
09:08:43 pm craigsimon66: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Do training departments have the same influence today that they had 5 years ago? #lrnchat
09:08:48 pm ReubenTozman: RT @kellygarber: Q2: Training dept objectives are not their own – they align with the business unit/company objectives. (or should) #lrnchat
09:08:52 pm sogarlene: Q2) Matrix style plug and and learn skills immediately! Or maybe design for real learning transfer more consistently #lrnchat
09:08:58 pm JaneBozarth: @minutebio heard from 1 agency today: 100% employees have daily computer access. 0% training delivered online. #lrnchat
09:08:58 pm purplelearn: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What did you think the training department would have accomplished by now? #lrnchat
09:08:59 pm minutebio: Q2) Know how 2 hire qualified trainers instead of good SMEs #lrnchat
09:08:59 pm craigsimon66: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What did you think the training department would have accomplished by now? #lrnchat
09:09:08 pm JaneBozarth: RT @cammybean: #lrnchat q2 Figured out that learning happens everywhere you look. especially not in a classroom. #lrnchat
09:09:09 pm maubuchler: RT @cammybean: #lrnchat q2 Figured out that learning happens everywhere you look. especially not in a classroom.
09:09:20 pm MMTingley: Q2) Oh, maybe, that reading glossary terms out loud does not an eLearning module make. #lrnchat
09:09:22 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) Thought we could create 5-inch three ring binders for course materials. (Remember the sarcasm rule.) #lrnchat
09:09:24 pm JD_Dillon: @criticallearner – great point! #lrnchat
09:09:33 pm jmarrapodi: Still seeing too many classes for class sake. Even biz #highered may forget the end result. Like  @JaneBozarth said knowledge only  #lrnchat
09:09:45 pm ReubenTozman: RT @minutebio: Q2) Know how 2 hire qualified trainers instead of good SMEs – Its the university model. SMEs not teachers #lrnchat
09:10:13 pm minutebio: @JaneBozarth Heck, we have 100% mobile phone access and no m-learning ;) #lrnchat
09:10:16 pm criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat Hope we would’ve learned by now that a new medium (ILT to WBT, WBT to Mobile) does not mean “repackage stuff”
09:10:37 pm jmarrapodi: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What did you think the training department would have accomplished by now? #lrnchat
09:10:37 pm sogarlene: Q2) agree totally with ReubenTozman… performance support is essential. Hadn’t considered the flip you suggest. pondering #lrnchat
09:10:52 pm JaneBozarth: RT @criticallearner: Hope we wouldve learned by now that a new medium (ILT to WBT, WBT to Mobile) does not mean “repackage stuff” #lrnchat
09:10:54 pm TriciaRansom: Signing off. Bad accident outside and hubby went out to help. Hope everyone is ok.  #lrnchat
09:11:04 pm JaneBozarth: RT @minutebio: @JaneBozarth Heck, we have 100% mobile phone access and no m-learning ;) #lrnchat
09:11:41 pm criticallearner: Q2) #lrnchat hope we would’ve accomplished more real embedding of learning/support in natural workflow vs going to training/taking a course
09:11:55 pm purplelearn: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @minutebio: @JaneBozarth Heck, we have 100% mobile phone access and no m-learning ;) #lrnchat
09:11:55 pm craigsimon66: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @minutebio: @JaneBozarth Heck, we have 100% mobile phone access and no m-learning ;) #lrnchat
09:11:59 pm JaneBozarth: @reubentozman oh dear SOOOOO many classroom trainers trying to stop it #lrnchat
09:12:37 pm ReubenTozman: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Thought we could create 5-inch three ring binders for course materials. -> CD Binder #lrnchat
09:13:04 pm jmarrapodi: RT @benbutina Q2) Everything that was supposed to be the “next big thing” when I started 11 yrs ago is still just around the corner #lrnchat
09:13:20 pm JaneBozarth: RT @criticallearner hope we wouldve accomplished more embedding in natural workflow vs going to training/taking a course #lrnchat
09:13:23 pm rdeis: RT @criticallearner Q2) hope we wouldve accomplished embedding of learning/support in workflow vs going to training/taking a course #lrnchat
09:13:24 pm criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat Hope we would’ve accomplished developing a training module for Jetsons-like flying cars #wheresmyflyingcar
09:13:24 pm jmarrapodi: RT @ReubenTozman: q2) Figured out that training is a subset of performance support (operations) and not vice versa #lrnchat
09:14:25 pm JaneBozarth: @criticallearner now discouraging to see so many anting to ‘implement social’ as yet another separate thing out of workflow–  #lrnchat
09:14:29 pm ReubenTozman: @JaneBozarth I’m sure – but here’s the kicker. If you cut access to the SME in a class, heaven forbid, you may have to lose it, no? #lrnchat
09:14:33 pm kelly_smith01: And to think m-learning extends/supplements  learning not  (I repeat not) replace training. #lrnchat
09:14:59 pm MMTingley: Q2) I’d hoped we could do cooler stuff, we’re getting there in terms of affordability, but still a long road. #lrnchat
09:15:05 pm JaneBozarth: @rdeis Ok srsly I did think I’d have a flying car by now. #lrnchat
09:15:07 pm kellaprice: See you tomorrow in person!Woohoo! RT @LnDDave Greetings #lrnchat, David Kelly from NYC while I pack for #ASTDALC
09:15:12 pm criticallearner: Q2) #lrnchat hope we would’ve accomplished another ADDIE mention by now #staythirstymyfriends
09:15:19 pm cammybean: Meanwhile, PBS is showing a special on Prohibition. #ofspecialinteresttothiscrowd
#lrnchat
09:15:24 pm MMTingley: RT @kelly_smith01: And to think m-learning extends/supplements  learning not  (I repeat not) replace training. #lrnchat
09:15:40 pm minutebio: Q2) Thought we’d have more people asking us to id training needs, instead of telling us. Still training ‘em #lrnchat
09:15:54 pm JaneBozarth: @ReubenTozman that ain’t the concern, i’m afraid.  #lrnchat
09:16:03 pm britz: RT @cammybean: Meanwhile, PBS is showing a special on Prohibition. #ofspecialinteresttothiscrowd / BTW – saw it, it’s gr8 #lrnchat
09:16:20 pm cammybean: @JaneBozarth As if “social learning” was just invented in the last two years.
#lrnchat
09:16:20 pm JaneBozarth: Bunch of lrnchatting inebriates RT @cammybean: Meanwhile, PBS is showing a special on Prohibition. #ofspecialinteresttothiscrowd #lrnchat
09:16:21 pm kellaprice: Trying to learn all the new #Hootsuite functions! En route to #astdalc RT @lrnchat Sneak in sometime what you learned this week. #lrnchat
09:16:32 pm kellygarber: Q2: thought we would have accomplished realizing that our role is to help others accomplish  #lrnchat
09:16:48 pm ReubenTozman: q2) That instructional designers are not developers and vice versa?  #lrnchat
09:17:07 pm jmarrapodi: There, just not used  RT @JD_Dillon Q2) by now trng shld have predictable proc 4 dev quality materials, not bad PPTs 4 everything. #lrnchat
09:17:15 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) I would hope training events move closer (delivery) to the job and closer to the time of performance. #lrnchat
09:17:16 pm JaneBozarth: Wasn’t it? We must know different people RT @cammybean: As if “social learning” was just invented in the last two years. #lrnchat
09:17:16 pm minutebio: Q2) Thought training managers would know how long it takes the eLearning needs to develop a course #lrnchat
09:17:28 pm minutebio: RT @kellygarber: Q2: thought we would have accomplished realizing that our role is to help others accomplish  #lrnchat
09:17:33 pm jmarrapodi: RT @kellygarber: Q2: Training dept objectives are not their own – they align with the business unit/company objectives. (or should) #lrnchat
09:17:43 pm MMTingley: Heck, now SMEs are developers! RT @ReubenTozman: q2) That instructional designers are not developers and vice versa?  #lrnchat
09:17:47 pm britz: Q2) I thought they’d finally figure out you can’t put 10lbs in a 5lb bag! #lrnchat
09:17:56 pm minutebio: RT @ReubenTozman: q2) That instructional designers are not developers and vice versa? | Unless they have 2 b #lrnchat
09:18:07 pm sogarlene: Q2) at ReubenTozman … or just having folks understand the difference between design and development. doh! #lrnchat
#lrnchat
09:18:16 pm criticallearner: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) I would hope training events move closer (delivery) to the job and closer to the time of performance. #lrnchat
09:18:25 pm minutebio: RT @britz: Q2) I thought theyd finally figure out you cant put 10lbs in a 5lb bag! #lrnchat
09:18:29 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Social learning started before the one-room schoolhouse . #lrnchat
09:18:30 pm rjpanetti: RT @JaneBozarth: @criticallearner nto ‘implement social’ as yet another separate thing out of workflow–  #lrnchat <— huge obstacle…
09:18:45 pm idol_era: RT@JaneBozarth: RT @cammybean: #lrnchat q2 Figured out that learning happens everywhere you look. especially not in a classroom. #lrnchat
09:19:03 pm idol_era: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @criticallearner hope we wouldve accomplished more embedding in natural workflow vs going to training/taking a course #lrnchat
09:19:11 pm criticallearner: @minutebio #lrnchat- oh please don’t get me started on how SMEs can miss every deadline, and they expect us to crash schedule to meet date
09:19:13 pm TheAirton: Q2) Training seems happy with filling requests/orders when it should be providing solutions. #lrnchat
09:19:15 pm JaneBozarth: @rjpanetti huge bottle of pricey snake oil.  I’ll sell you some social. Wanna buy a silo?  #lrnchat
09:19:36 pm cammybean: Q2) @ReubenTozman Instead they try to cram more skills and talents into one
individual…the poor one-stop elearning shop! #lrnchat
09:19:42 pm rjpanetti: @JaneBozarth @criticallearner instead of simplifying processes they add one more thing to worry about  #lrnchat
09:19:59 pm rdeis: RT @kelly_smith01: Q1) Social learning started before the one-room schoolhouse . #lrnchat
09:20:03 pm criticallearner: RT @britz: Q2) I thought they’d finally figure out you can’t put 10lbs in a 5lb bag! #lrnchat
09:20:39 pm ReubenTozman: q2) Maybe we would have figured out that cheating is ok when auditors aren’t looking over our shoulder. Its the answer that matters #lrnchat
09:20:47 pm britz: Q2) I thought they’d realize they need to invert the model of Lots of time training, Little time for reflection to be effective #lrnchat
09:20:50 pm ReubenTozman: q2) I like cheating #lrnchat
09:20:54 pm jmarrapodi: PREACH!!!! RT @cammybean q2 Figured out that learning happens everywhere you look. especially not in a classroom. #lrnchat
09:21:02 pm criticallearner: RT @rjpanetti: @JaneBozarth @criticallearner instead of simplifying processes they add one more thing to worry about  #lrnchat
09:21:22 pm JaneBozarth: by the $$pile-load “implement social” RT @rjpanetti:  instead of simplifying processes they add one more thing to worry about  #lrnchat
09:21:30 pm minutebio: RT @jmarrapodi: PREACH!!!! RT @cammybean q2 Figured out that learning happens everywhere you look. especially not in a classroom. #lrnchat
09:21:41 pm rdeis: RT @jmarrapodi: PREACH!!!! RT @cammybean q2 Figured out that learning happens everywhere you look. especially not in a classroom. #lrnchat
09:21:43 pm JaneBozarth: @criticallearner … and convince others it has to be complicated #lrnchat
09:21:54 pm TheAirton: No ADDIE. Drink anyways. #lrnchat
09:22:06 pm cammybean: @ReubenTozman It’s not cheating, it’s collaborating. #lrnchat
09:22:10 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat Social Learning started when caveman 1 asked caveman 2 to try to attack the night’s dinner from a different angle
09:22:17 pm JaneBozarth: RT @cammybean: @ReubenTozman It’s not cheating, it’s collaborating. #lrnchat
09:22:19 pm rjpanetti: @JaneBozarth no need to buy silos. Give people Sharepoint and they will make their own!  #lrnchat
09:22:19 pm jmarrapodi: RT @britz: Q2) I thought they’d finally figure out you can’t put 10lbs in a 5lb bag! #lrnchat
09:22:30 pm jmarrapodi: RT @kelly_smith01: Q1) Social learning started before the one-room schoolhouse . #lrnchat
09:22:37 pm JaneBozarth: RT @rjpanetti: @JaneBozarth no need to buy silos. Give people Sharepoint and they will make their own!  #lrnchat
09:22:54 pm MMTingley: Bah! RT @rjpanetti: @JaneBozarth no need to buy silos. Give people Sharepoint and they will make their own!  #lrnchat
09:22:57 pm exesyle: RT @cammybean: @ReubenTozman It’s not cheating, it’s collaborating. #lrnchat
09:23:04 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @rjpanetti: @JaneBozarth no need to buy silos. Give people Sharepoint and they will make their own!  #lrnchat
09:23:06 pm ReubenTozman: RT @cammybean: @ReubenTozman Its not cheating, its collaborating.->lol, not if your alone…??? #lrnchat
09:23:37 pm jmarrapodi: RT @minutebio #lrnchat- O please dont get me started on how SMEs cn miss every deadline, & they expect us 2 crash schedule 2 meet date
09:23:54 pm lrnchat: Q3) What do training depts do well that people don’t always notice they do well? #lrnchat
09:23:55 pm cammybean: @ReubenTozman Oh, I collaborate with myself all the time ;) #lrnchat
09:24:09 pm purplelearn: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What do training depts do well that people don’t always notice they do well? #lrnchat
09:24:10 pm craigsimon66: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What do training depts do well that people don’t always notice they do well? #lrnchat
09:24:10 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What do training depts do well that people dont always notice they do well? #lrnchat
09:24:14 pm ReubenTozman: Why is Grey’s Anatomy about surgically removing the … #lrnchat
09:24:16 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What do training depts do well that people dont always notice they do well? #lrnchat
09:24:23 pm criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat I hoped by now we’d realized kids disrupting class (like S. Jobs) was often actually a sign of things to improve
09:24:26 pm kelly_smith01: Silos were a concept in practice before they were tall thingees for  grain or barriers in an enterprise. #lrnchat
09:24:42 pm rdeis: Q2) Thought they would know the first choice shouldn’t always be the classroom. #lrnchat
09:24:45 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What do training depts do well that people don’t always notice they do well? #lrnchat
09:24:48 pm JaneBozarth: q3 Flip charting?  #lrnchat
09:24:53 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What do training depts do well that people dont always notice they do well? #lrnchat
09:25:01 pm JD_Dillon: Q3) learning orgs are in a great place to appreciate and share company culture, not create it. #lrnchat
09:25:01 pm britz: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What do training depts do well that people dont always notice they do well? #lrnchat
09:25:10 pm JaneBozarth: I really have to say even lrnchat is having a difficult time competing w Grey’s Anatomy tonight… #lrnchat
09:25:14 pm ReubenTozman: @nancysafar from @edcetrat is watching and telling me about the harvesting #lrnchat
09:25:20 pm cammybean: q3 ice breakers! #lrnchat
09:25:23 pm JaneBozarth: q3. Posting ground rules?  #lrnchat
09:25:28 pm jmarrapodi: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What do training depts do well that people don’t always notice they do well? #lrnchat
09:25:36 pm minutebio: Q3) Depts do well @ knowing their audience. People r surprised @ how well we know em & their lrning needs #lrnchat
09:25:46 pm britz: Q3) chew up employees valuable time?  oh wait…they notice that #lrnchat
09:25:54 pm sogarlene: Q3) process mapping, process improvement, needs assessment, employee engagement, culture building #lrnchat
#lrnchat
09:26:02 pm cammybean: q3 Being really enthusiastic in a classroom in order to generate “motivation” and “buy-in” #lrnchat
09:26:24 pm minutebio: Q3) Knowing technology #lrnchat
09:26:28 pm ReubenTozman: q3) Managing political landmines #lrnchat
09:26:37 pm minutebio: RT @cammybean: q3 Being really enthusiastic in a classroom in order to generate “motivation” and “buy-in” #lrnchat
09:26:50 pm kellygarber: RT @britz: Q3) chew up employees valuable time?  oh wait…they notice that  #lrnchat
09:27:46 pm minutebio: RT @ReubenTozman: q3) Managing political landmines | Yes, & navigating around them. #lrnchat
09:27:55 pm kelly_smith01: RT @cammybean: q3 ice breakers! #lrnchat  —> How many “ice breakers 4 trainers” books have been published?
09:28:02 pm jmarrapodi: RT @rdeis: Q2) Thought they would know the first choice shouldn’t always be the classroom. #lrnchat
09:28:04 pm chris_garber: RT @kellygarber: Q2: thought we would have accomplished realizing that our role is to help others accomplish  #lrnchat
09:28:18 pm ReubenTozman: q3) Creating lots of 5 inch 3 ring binders #lrnchat
09:28:25 pm rjpanetti: Q3) provide reports on training volume. Butts in seats, certifications, various other metrics slightly associated with learning  #lrnchat
09:28:28 pm minutebio: Q3) Truly caring about people’s professional development #lrnchat
09:29:00 pm jmarrapodi: Hey! it’s an art to be good at it.  RT @JaneBozarth q3 Flip charting?  #lrnchat
09:29:19 pm kelly_smith01: Asking everyone to introduce themselves and tell us one thing unique about them. #lrnchat
09:29:49 pm MariaOD: Hi #lrnchat! q3: We make the best coffee…well that is when we know the difference b/t regular and decaf! #lrnchat #whatl&ddowell
09:29:50 pm minutebio: Q3) Knowing how to skirt around IT’s cooky rules #lrnchat
09:30:12 pm JaneBozarth: @jmarrapodi didn’t say it wasn’t #lrnchat
09:30:18 pm kellygarber: @chris_garber well hello bro! – thanks for the drive by RT of  #lrnchat
09:30:20 pm criticallearner: RT @minutebio: Q3) Knowing how to skirt around IT’s cooky rules #lrnchat
09:30:22 pm jmarrapodi: Multitasking…RT @JaneBozarth I really have to say even lrnchat is having a difficult time competing w Grey’s Anatomy tonight… #lrnchat
09:31:02 pm jmarrapodi: RT @sogarlene: Q3) process mapping, process improvement, needs assessment, employee engagement, culture building #lrnchat
#lrnchat
09:31:02 pm onEnterFrame: q3) separate training issues from performance issues. #lrnchat
09:31:02 pm kelly_smith01: Seeing social media, social learning, sometimes e-learning, m-learning, informal learning and pull learning as a threat. #lrnchat
09:31:03 pm ReubenTozman: q3) Having implemented new accounting principles and possibly new economic rules by creating their own ROI model #lrnchat
09:31:03 pm MariaOD: q3: We are pretty good at getting things out just in time. Maybe even proactive and anticipatory.  #lrnchat
09:31:29 pm ReubenTozman: RT @minutebio: Q3) Knowing how to skirt around ITs cooky rules ->yes #lrnchat
09:31:34 pm jmarrapodi: RT @cammybean: q3 Being really enthusiastic in a classroom in order to generate “motivation” and “buy-in” #lrnchat
09:31:40 pm rebeccalcorn: Want to participate in #lrnchat, but I’m in DC at #ASTDALC2011 and the hotel charges for wifi. Too much work to participate on phone.
09:31:41 pm slhice: Q3) Being Corporate Communications Police Squad #lrnchat
09:31:48 pm kelly_smith01: RT @slhice: Q3) Being Corporate Communications Police Squad #lrnchat
09:31:59 pm onEnterFrame: good one RT @minutebio: Q3) Knowing how to skirt around IT’s cooky rules #lrnchat
09:32:12 pm billcush: Thanks goodness. Without ground rules, I wouldn’t know that its ok to use the restroom. RT @janebozarth: q3. Posting ground rules?  #lrnchat
09:32:21 pm criticallearner: Q3) #lrnchat Training Depts are very good at turning what should be a double sided job aid into a fully interactive course #notafan
09:32:30 pm britz: Q3) When training is really needed, and they have their sh*t together…then train, that’s what they are good at #lrnchat
09:32:52 pm MariaOD: q3: we can tell you how to change a tire in about 30 steps given a competent mechanic and some tools. #lrnchat
09:32:53 pm criticallearner: RT @mariaod: q3: We are pretty good at getting things out just in time. Maybe even proactive and anticipatory.  #lrnchat
09:33:00 pm JaneBozarth: RT @billcush: Thanks goodness. Without ground rules, I wouldn’t know that its ok to use the restroom. RT @janebozarth: q3. Posting ground rules?  #lrnchat
09:33:00 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What do training depts do well that people don’t always notice they do well? #lrnchat
09:33:17 pm kellygarber: RT @britz: Q3) When training is really needed, and they have their sh*t together…then train, thats what they are good at #lrnchat
09:33:24 pm JD_Dillon: Q3) Learning orgs can help remind a company of where it’s revenue comes from: it’s employees. #lrnchat
09:33:45 pm billcush: Q3) Mostly, training departments do a nice job getting new people ready for their jobs. #lrnchat
09:33:57 pm minutebio: Q3) We’re good at marketing courses. #lrnchat
09:33:58 pm MMTingley: Q3)Finding creative ways to present “need to know” stuff; Addressing human element even thru eLearning #lrnchat
09:34:38 pm jmarrapodi: RT @criticallearner: RT @minutebio: Q3) Knowing how to skirt around IT’s cooky rules #lrnchat
09:34:48 pm JD_Dillon: #Learning is a continuous, never-ending process. #Training is an event. #lrnchat
09:34:50 pm TheAirton: Q3) Using the Kirkpatrick 4 Levels of Eval #Lrnchat #OccupyADDIE
09:35:00 pm Dave_Ferguson: @billcush I’d say trng dept CAN get new people to acceptable entry-level skill at their jobs–though doesn’t always manage that. #lrnchat
09:35:02 pm kelly_smith01: RT @minutebio: Q3) We’re good at marketing courses. #lrnchat  —-> And making smile sheets.
09:35:24 pm chris_garber: RT @kellygarber: @chris_garber well hello bro! – thanks for the drive by RT of  #lrnchat <– @tapscout, must learn about this “drive by” RT
09:35:25 pm lrnchat: Q4) What do training depts try to do that they suck at? #lrnchat
09:35:25 pm criticallearner: Q3) #lrnchat Training Depts generally good at understanding how to run a good webcast vs just tool mechanics
09:35:45 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do training depts try to do that they suck at? #lrnchat
09:36:05 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do training depts try to do that they suck at? #lrnchat
09:36:06 pm rjpanetti: Q3) asking tough questions. you can expose the elephant in room by insisting something needs to make sense 2 teach it to others  #lrnchat
09:36:14 pm minutebio: Q4) Showing ROI #lrnchat
09:36:17 pm Dave_Ferguson: Small (inc 1-person) training dept often very user-job-focused b/c it doesn’t have time to waste on L&D rituals. #lrnchat
09:36:20 pm kellygarber: Q4: seriously? #lrnchat
09:36:26 pm MariaOD: Q4: We suck at ROI. #lrnchat
09:36:28 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) #Learning orgs are usually pretty bad at saying “NO” even when they disagree with a client. #lrnchat
09:36:29 pm craigsimon66: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do training depts try to do that they suck at? #lrnchat
09:36:34 pm MMTingley: Q4) Heh. Making compliance interesting. #lrnchat
09:36:40 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do training depts try to do that they suck at? #lrnchat
09:36:47 pm jmarrapodi: RT @JD_Dillon: #Learning is a continuous, never-ending process. #Training is an event. #lrnchat
09:36:50 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do training depts try to do that they suck at? #lrnchat
09:36:52 pm cammybean: RT @JD_Dillon: Q4) #Learning orgs are usually pretty bad at saying “NO” even when they disagree with a client. #lrnchat
09:37:05 pm Dave_Ferguson: ROI, even outside of training, is often just a designer label for puffery. What was the ROI of Daimler-Chrysler? #lrnchat
09:37:08 pm kelly_smith01: Q4) Evaluating the “effectiveness” of courseware (or training event(s). #lrnchat
09:37:20 pm jmarrapodi: RT @billcush: Q3) Mostly, training departments do a nice job getting new people ready for their jobs. #lrnchat
09:37:21 pm billcush: Q4) Improve business results. Performance consulting. #lrnchat
09:37:22 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) In many instances, desktop publishing #lrnchat
09:37:22 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Dave_Ferguson: ROI, even outside of training, is often just a designer label for puffery. What was the ROI of Daimler-Chrysler? #lrnchat
09:37:22 pm rjpanetti: Q4) performance consulting  #lrnchat
09:37:24 pm criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Training Depts generally poor at saying “No, that’s not even close to a learning project for us”
09:37:29 pm jmarrapodi: RT @MMTingley: Q3)Finding creative ways to present “need to know” stuff; Addressing human element even thru eLearning #lrnchat
09:37:51 pm criticallearner: RT @mmtingley: Q4) Heh. Making compliance interesting. #lrnchat > Heh, indeed.
09:37:52 pm cammybean: q4) adapt #lrnchat
09:37:57 pm onEnterFrame: q4) #lrnchat Saying no when asked to create/deliver bad training. Bowing to ‘customer’ pressure.
09:38:00 pm rjpanetti: RT @criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Training Depts generally poor at saying “No, that’s not even close to a learning project for us”
09:38:09 pm britz: RT @cammybean: q4) adapt #lrnchat
09:38:11 pm billcush: Yep! RT @rjpanetti: Q4) performance consulting  #lrnchat
09:38:13 pm sogarlene: Q4) evaluation in general, not just roi
#lrnchat
09:38:15 pm criticallearner: RT @kelly_smith01: Q4) Evaluating the “effectiveness” of courseware (or training event(s). #lrnchat > Better said!
09:38:16 pm MMTingley: Q4) Follow-up #lrnchat
09:38:39 pm billcush: RT @criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Training Depts generally poor at saying “No, that’s not even close to a learning project for us”
09:38:48 pm jmarrapodi: Or at least using smile sheets & their stats. 1:4 still counts RT @TheAirton Q3) Using the Kirkpatrick 4 Levels of Eval #Lrnchat
09:38:48 pm minutebio: RT @MMTingley: Q4) Follow-up #lrnchat
09:38:55 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) 3 letters = PPT #lrnchat
09:39:03 pm cammybean: q4) Educating internal customers about better solutions instead of being order takers. #lrnchat
09:39:04 pm TheAirton: Q3) The fact I/We are more effective informally #lrnchat
09:39:05 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do training depts try to do that they suck at? #lrnchat
09:39:10 pm ReubenTozman: q4) Being part of the business #lrnchat
09:39:10 pm minutebio: RT @billcush: RT @criticallearner: Training Depts generally poor at saying “No, thats not even close to a learning project for us” #lrnchat
09:39:12 pm Dave_Ferguson: To be fair, many trng departments are resonating the latest spasms infecting senior management outside of L&D. #lrnchat
09:39:19 pm JaneBozarth: q4 evaluate #lrnchat
09:39:23 pm britz: Q4) hiring …SME’s are not born trainers #lrnchat
09:39:25 pm criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat training depts bad at letting go of sacred cows (ADDIE) and myths (learning styles) GLUG!
09:39:35 pm JaneBozarth: q4 performance support  #lrnchat
09:39:48 pm MariaOD: Q4: Performance consulting.
#lrnchat
09:39:52 pm kellygarber: Q4: Any dept. bad at doing something that is outside the skill set of the collective team #lrnchat
09:39:53 pm JaneBozarth: RT @criticallearner: Training Depts generally poor at saying “No, thats not even close to a learning project for us” #lrnchat
09:39:54 pm minutebio: RT @JaneBozarth: q4 performance support  #lrnchat
09:39:54 pm kelly_smith01: Q4) They don’t ask client “Have you identified an exemplary performer?” #lrnchat
09:39:58 pm ReubenTozman: q4) If we all hate the PPT why do we all use it during our own conferences. I still don’t know #wesuck #lrnchat
09:40:06 pm rjpanetti: RT @britz: RT @cammybean: q4) adapt #lrnchat
09:40:07 pm criticallearner: RT @reubentozman: q4) Being part of the business #lrnchat > PERFECTLY STATED! Too often, a side dish (like SoMe, “value”…)
09:40:17 pm billcush: @criticallearner sometimes training depts have hard time saying ‘yes’ choosing to argue w biz instead of giving cust what they want #lrnchat
09:40:48 pm sogarlene: q4) regarding saying no-agree we are coerced into many things in the name of learning, but could we redirect vs saying no outright? #lrnchat
09:40:51 pm JaneBozarth: @ReubenTozman I don’t hate the PPT. Not the tool’s fault.  #lrnchat
09:40:54 pm cammybean: RT @ReubenTozman: q4) If we all hate the PPT why do we all use it during our own conferences. I still dont know #wesuck #lrnchat
09:40:58 pm britz: RT @kelly_smith01: Q4) They dont ask client “Have you identified an exemplary performer?” / I did that today tho ..phew! ;) #lrnchat
09:41:10 pm cammybean: RT @JaneBozarth: @ReubenTozman I dont hate the PPT. Not the tools fault.  #lrnchat
09:41:31 pm Dave_Ferguson: RT @JaneBozarth: @ReubenTozman I dont hate the PPT. Not the tools fault. // No, it’s often the fault of the tools.
#lrnchat
09:41:46 pm minutebio: Q4) Narrating our own online courses in our best FM radio voice. #lrnchat
09:41:50 pm ReubenTozman: RT @JaneBozarth: @ReubenTozman I dont hate the PPT. Not the tools fault. -> True…but we still make crap point presentations  #lrnchat
09:41:51 pm criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Generally, training depts suck at speaking the language of business vs business of training.
09:41:54 pm slhice: Q4) Integrate success mgmt/assurance from the get go to ensure ROI can be demonstrated. #lrnchat
09:42:07 pm JaneBozarth: I’m tired of RTing @ReubenTozman . Just… whatever he said. That.  #lrnchat
09:42:09 pm britz: Q4) knowing the difference between training and facilitation #lrnchat
09:42:15 pm kelly_smith01: PPT doesn’t kill learning –> the delivery does. #lrnchat
09:42:22 pm rdeis: RT @JaneBozarth: @ReubenTozman I dont hate the PPT. Not the tools fault.  #lrnchat
09:42:22 pm MariaOD: Q4: We are not good at enforcing the mandatory course. #lrnchat
09:42:30 pm minutebio: RT @JaneBozarth: @ReubenTozman I dont hate the PPT. Not the tools fault. | Last I checked it was PPTs fault #lrnchat
09:42:32 pm cammybean: @Dave_Ferguson Tru dat. The tools make it easy to create more crap. #lrnchat
09:42:39 pm JaneBozarth: @ReubenTozman not the tool’s fault. that was exactly my point.  #lrnchat
09:42:43 pm rjpanetti: Q-tangential…anyone read clay shirky’s metaphor of web2.0 as the printing press and the role of scribes? #lrnchat
09:42:46 pm kelly_smith01: RT @cammybean: @Dave_Ferguson Tru dat. The tools make it easy to create more crap. #lrnchat
09:42:46 pm Dave_Ferguson: Trng departments (and many of their clients) find it hard to resist (or escape) the Little Corporate Schoolhouse mentality…
#lrnchat
09:42:47 pm JaneBozarth: RT @kelly_smith01: PPT doesnt kill learning –> the delivery does. #lrnchat
09:42:48 pm minutebio: RT @britz: Q4) knowing the difference between training and facilitation | Yes! #lrnchat
09:42:50 pm cammybean: RT @JaneBozarth: Im tired of RTing @ReubenTozman . Just… whatever he said. That. > Yeah, what Jane said. #lrnchat
09:42:56 pm Dave_Ferguson: @cammybean I meant the tools who breathe. #lrnchat
09:43:09 pm kelly_smith01: RT @minutebio: RT @britz: Q4) knowing the difference between training and facilitation | Yes! #lrnchat
09:43:11 pm marciamarcia: Training depts suck at being clear they’re not in charge of learning. Ppl are responsible for their own learning. #lrnchat
09:43:16 pm cammybean: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @cammybean I meant the tools who breathe. #lrnchat
09:43:19 pm Dave_Ferguson: Has anyone, anywhere, had a use for CEUs?  Like, can you turn them in and get a food processor? #lrnchat
09:43:22 pm criticallearner: q4> #lrnchat we can suck at recognizing irony- like having an annual “L&D Week” to promote a culture of continuous learning #4real_notmadeup
09:43:29 pm JaneBozarth: Q4 we are not good at keeping courses from becoming “mandatory”  #lrnchat
09:43:29 pm ThomasStone: Good one RT @cammybean: q4) adapt #lrnchat
09:43:29 pm TheAirton: Q4) Trying to set performance instead of improving it. And costume parties. #lrnchat
09:43:33 pm cammybean: Face it. Most people are lazy. #lrnchat
09:43:42 pm minutebio: RT @marciamarcia: Training depts suck at being clear theyre not in charge of learning. Ppl are responsible for their own learning. #lrnchat
09:43:52 pm kelly_smith01: RT @cammybean: Face it. Most people are lazy. #lrnchat
09:44:07 pm JaneBozarth: @criticallearner perfect. #lrnchat
09:44:10 pm rjpanetti: Corp training depts are scribes of the 21st century.  #lrnchat
09:44:24 pm criticallearner: RT @marciamarcia: Training depts suck at being clear they’re not in charge of learning. Ppl are responsible for their own learning. #lrnchat
09:44:32 pm cammybean: Face it. Most people don’t have enough time. (Look at me surrounded by 800 piles of laundry at 10pm. I don’t have time for much.) #lrnchat
09:44:38 pm Dave_Ferguson: @criticallearner On irony, Roger Schank:  took training depts 30 years to get OH projector out of the bowling alley #lrnchat
09:44:41 pm billcush: I agree with that…RT @dave_ferguson: @billcush I’d say trng dept CAN get new people up to speed–though doesn’t always… #lrnchat
09:44:49 pm ThomasStone: Q4) secure manager follow-up to improve chances of behavior change #lrnchat
09:44:54 pm britz: Q4) letting go of pedagogical approaches #lrnchat
09:44:59 pm MariaOD: q5: Look for opportunity to help employees adapt to change. #lrnchat
09:45:04 pm criticallearner: RT @marciamarcia: Q5) What must training departments do to stay (or become) relevant? #lrnchat
09:45:07 pm cammybean: q5) Recognize that they’ve become increasingly irrelevant. #lrnchat
09:45:08 pm sue_freeman1: #lrnchat A little disappointed that folks use their own technology (work does not provide/support…).
09:45:17 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat Q5) What must training departments do to stay (or become) relevant? #lrnchat
09:45:18 pm cammybean: RT @marciamarcia: Q5) What must training departments do to stay (or become) relevant? #lrnchat
09:45:45 pm kelly_smith01: RT @cammybean: RT @marciamarcia: Q5) What must training departments do to stay (or become) relevant? #lrnchat
09:45:49 pm ThomasStone: RT @JaneBozarth: q4 performance support  #lrnchat
09:45:50 pm Dave_Ferguson: @billcush I agree re can; trng good fit for homogeneous groups, few locations, procedural skills, real s/k gaps. #lrnchat
09:45:54 pm britz: RT @ThomasStone: Q4) secure manager follow-up to improve chances of behavior change / yep! had that convo today too. I’m on a roll #lrnchat
09:46:00 pm MariaOD: Q5: Partner with managers to identify gaps. Be a performance consultant. #lrnchat
09:46:11 pm criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Know the big problems, challenges of the business, participate in resolving.
09:46:20 pm ReubenTozman: q5) Training departments need to disband. Stop being a training department #lrnchat
09:46:23 pm rjpanetti: Q5) know their product. Real learning pros create more capable people. All else is means to that end.  #lrnchat
09:46:25 pm ClickTrain: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @kelly_smith01: PPT doesnt kill learning –> the delivery does. #lrnchat
09:46:32 pm cammybean: Q5) Just let go and let training go viral within an org. #lrnchat
09:46:45 pm lrnchat: Q5) What must training departments do to stay (or become) relevant? #lrnchat
09:47:00 pm JD_Dillon: #Training doesn’t have to tell/show employees everything. Put info out there, make it easy to find/use. People will learn. #lrnchat
09:47:03 pm ThomasStone: Yes. I’ve asked you before, stop reading my mind. RT @JaneBozarth: @ReubenTozman I don’t hate the PPT. Not the tool’s fault.  #lrnchat
09:47:12 pm jmarrapodi: RT @lrnchat Q5) What must training departments do to stay (or become) relevant? #lrnchat
09:47:24 pm minutebio: Q5) Know audience, their needs & the tech they use & r comfortable with as a learning medium #lrnchat
09:47:32 pm britz: Q5) hire people who regularly attend lrnchat and/or @c4lpt ‘s Yammer Social Learning Community! :) #lrnchat
09:47:40 pm cammybean: q5) Send your training people forth into the rest of the organization and help them INTEGRATE.  #lrnchat
09:47:43 pm criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Focus on performance, don’t spoonfeed, but create environment for employees to get tools and support needed for their growth.
09:47:44 pm kelly_smith01: Q5) Collaborate and don’t think of the output as a product. #lrnchat
09:47:55 pm kelly_smith01: RT @cammybean: q5) Send your training people forth into the rest of the organization and help them INTEGRATE.  #lrnchat
09:47:57 pm Dave_Ferguson: Q5: what to do? Redefine or abandon ‘training’ as label. Most perf improve NOT the result of training. It just ain’t. #lrnchat
09:48:01 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone heh. how are you? Missed you at the learning 3.0 conference. Finally met Dave W.  #lrnchat
09:48:09 pm ReubenTozman: q5) Make a difference in a company’s bottom line. #lrnchat
09:48:12 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What must training departments do to stay (or become) relevant? #lrnchat
09:48:13 pm MariaOD: Q5: Align/Adapt L&D to the org’s strategic goals. Blessing er funding from the top. #lrnchat
09:48:22 pm JaneBozarth: q5 Get into the workflow instead of interrupting it #lrnchat
09:48:37 pm visualrinse: . @marciamarcia q5) gain new ground or go away. #lrnchat
09:48:38 pm TheAirton: Q5) If Training doesn’t have answer to “So what?” it shouldn’t be around. #lrnchat Someone do an ADDIE already
09:48:40 pm ReubenTozman: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Q5: what to do?Redefine or abandon training as label.Most perf improve NOT the result of training. It just aint. #lrnchat
09:48:42 pm billcush: Ha! RT @janebozarth: Q4 we are not good at keeping courses from becoming “mandatory”  #lrnchat
09:48:44 pm ReubenTozman: RT @JaneBozarth: q5 Get into the workflow instead of interrupting it #lrnchat
09:48:44 pm jmarrapodi: RT @MariaOD: Q5: Partner with managers to identify gaps. Be a performance consultant. #lrnchat
09:48:46 pm criticallearner: RT @janebozarth: q5 Get into the workflow instead of interrupting it #lrnchat
09:48:53 pm rjpanetti: RT @kelly_smith01: Q5) Collaborate and don’t think of the output as a product. #lrnchat
09:48:54 pm visualrinse: RT @ReubenTozman: q5) Make a difference in a company’s bottom line. #lrnchat
09:48:58 pm jmarrapodi: RT @criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Know the big problems, challenges of the business, participate in resolving.
09:49:00 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What must training departments do to stay (or become) relevant? #lrnchat
09:49:01 pm Dave_Ferguson: Stop measuring: butts in seats. Contact hours. Gigabytes of LMS shovelware. #lrnchat
09:49:12 pm complexified: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do training depts try to do that they suck at? #lrnchat
09:49:18 pm kelly_smith01: Don’t have client fill-out form with check boxes for e-learning, instructor-led, job-aid, etc.  #lrnchat
09:49:19 pm complexified: RT @JaneBozarth: q4 evaluate #lrnchat
09:49:23 pm minutebio: Q3) Listen more 2 learners & make sure execs know what learners & org needs #lrnchat
09:49:32 pm minutebio: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Stop measuring: butts in seats. Contact hours. Gigabytes of LMS shovelware. #lrnchat
09:49:35 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Stop measuring: butts in seats. Contact hours. Gigabytes of LMS shovelware. #lrnchat  –>Say yessss
09:49:38 pm billcush: Q5) Stop whining about resources and just get it done. No one else has enough resources either. #lrnchat
09:49:43 pm britz: RT @JaneBozarth: q5 Get into the workflow instead of interrupting it / Jane – you’re answers are so Nuts & Bolts ;) #lrnchat
09:49:45 pm criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat build business acumen so you can understand and predict how you can influence key things w/o waiting for requests- come w/solns
09:49:47 pm rdeis: Q5) Align with the business needs. #lrnchat
09:49:47 pm jmarrapodi: Q5) identify and solve real problems.  #lrnchat
09:49:48 pm sogarlene: q5) solve real problems, show performance results – not just statistics #lrnchat
09:49:52 pm minutebio: RT @kelly_smith01: Dont have client fill-out form with check boxes for e-learning, instructor-led, job-aid, etc.  #lrnchat
09:50:02 pm JD_Dillon: Q5) Don’t wait to be asked for a solution. Create one and improve performance without a business initiative. #lrnchat
09:50:02 pm criticallearner: RT @billcush: Q5) Stop whining about resources and just get it done. No one else has enough resources either. #lrnchat
09:50:05 pm ThomasStone: @JaneBozarth Doing great. Yes, Dave went to Learning 3.0 and I went to HR Tech. Hope to connect with you again at an event soon. #lrnchat
09:50:23 pm minutebio: RT @JD_Dillon: Q5) Dont wait to be asked for a solution. Create one and improve performance without a business initiative. #lrnchat
09:50:23 pm JaneBozarth: @Dave_Ferguson now you’re talkin’ crazy. We. Must.Have. Metrics. No matter how meaningless. #ITTicketsClosed #lrnchat
09:50:25 pm criticallearner: RT @dave_ferguson: Stop measuring: butts in seats. Contact hours. Gigabytes of LMS shovelware. #lrnchat
09:50:34 pm kelly_smith01: Move away from scheduled event – integrate into job/job performance #lrnchat
09:50:35 pm jmarrapodi: RT @janebozarth: q5 Get into the workflow instead of interrupting it #lrnchat
09:50:37 pm JaneBozarth: AMEN TO THAT RT @billcush: Q5) Stop whining about resources and just get it done. No one else has enough resources either. #lrnchat
09:50:43 pm rjpanetti: RT @criticallearner: RT @billcush: Q5) Stop whining about resources and just get it done. No one else has enough resources either. #lrnchat
09:50:56 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone i’m at devlearn and cstd  #lrnchat
09:51:06 pm marciamarcia: To stay relevant, training depts could become curators of the content thru out the org. Stop trying to control. #lrnchat
09:51:08 pm MariaOD: Q5: Leverage great free tools, communities, get creative. Just do it.  #lrnchat
09:51:10 pm rdeis: RT @JaneBozarth: q5 Get into the workflow instead of interrupting it #lrnchat
09:51:19 pm britz: Q5) To get relevant Training must stop calling people “learners” and call them what they are – workers #lrnchat
09:51:33 pm ThomasStone: Q5) Evolve. Say no more often. Emphasize shorter training and more perf. support outputs. Social. Mobile. Speak lang. of the biz. #lrnchat
09:51:41 pm JaneBozarth: RT @marciamarcia: To stay relevant, training depts could become curators of the content thru out the org. Stop trying to control. #lrnchat
09:51:49 pm ReubenTozman: RT @JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone im at devlearn and cstd -> your coming to CSTD? Are you bolred or something? #lrnchat
09:51:50 pm billcush: Q5) Produce a Profit and Loss statement. Or how about measure costs of training and try to reduce it just like every other group. #lrnchat
09:51:50 pm MariaOD: RT @billcush: Q5) Stop whining about resources and just get it done. No one else has enough resources either. <<Word #lrnchat
09:51:51 pm criticallearner: RT @britz: Q5) To get relevant Training must stop calling people “learners” and call them what they are – workers #lrnchat >Performers
09:51:58 pm cammybean: @visualrinse @reubentozman if not PPT then I’m bringing tap shoes. #lrnchat
09:52:08 pm jmarrapodi: Q5) Stop training when a job aid will do. HT @bmosh @arossett  #lrnchat
09:52:17 pm kelly_smith01: Imagine your self in one of the boxes or lines in a Rummler /Brache flow. You are part of the team. #lrnchat
09:52:20 pm JD_Dillon: Q5) Don’t rely on level 1s to tell you how good you are. Make the effort to implement robust assessment. Make Kirkpatrick right! #lrnchat
09:52:24 pm MariaOD: RT @ThomasStone: Q5) Evolve. Say no more often. Emphasize shorter training and more perf. support outputs. Social. Mobile… #lrnchat
09:52:25 pm criticallearner: RT @jmarrapodi: Q5) Stop training when a job aid will do. HT @bmosh @arossett  #lrnchat
09:52:33 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone would like to hear more about HRTech. Heard good things.  #lrnchat
09:52:45 pm minutebio: RT @jmarrapodi: Q5) Stop training when a job aid will do. HT @bmosh @arossett  #lrnchat
09:52:49 pm JaneBozarth: @ReubenTozman I’m never bolred, Reuben.  #lrnchat
09:52:58 pm MariaOD: RT @criticallearner: RT @jmarrapodi: Q5) Stop training when a job aid will do. HT @bmosh @arossett  #lrnchat
09:53:06 pm kelly_smith01: RT @minutebio: RT @jmarrapodi: Q5) Stop training when a job aid will do. HT @bmosh @arossett  #lrnchat
09:53:07 pm ThomasStone: … or face extinction. Tough economic times are here for a long time people. RT @rdeis: Q5) Align with the business needs. #lrnchat
09:53:16 pm MMTingley: RT @criticallearner: RT @britz: Q5) stop calling people “learners” and call them what they are – workers >Performers > Contributors #lrnchat
09:53:20 pm criticallearner: RT @jd_dillon: Q5) Don’t rely on L1s … Make the effort to implement robust assessment. Make Kirkpatrick right! #lrnchat > Bottoms up!
09:53:27 pm ReubenTozman: @JaneBozarth bored goddamnit #lrnchat
09:53:30 pm JaneBozarth: I have a bumper sticker in my office: “Oh, Evolve!”  #lrnchat
09:53:38 pm billcush: Roger that! RT @thomasstone: Q5) Evolve. Speak lang. of the biz. #lrnchat
09:53:45 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: I have a bumper sticker in my office: “Oh, Evolve!”  #lrnchat
09:53:47 pm sogarlene: q5 @kelly_smith01 …love the visual! thank you! #lrnchat
09:53:57 pm jmarrapodi: RT @JaneBozarth AMEN 2 THAT RT @billcush: Q5) stop whining about resources-just get it done. No 1 else has enough resources either. #lrnchat
09:53:58 pm marciamarcia: If you’re really L&D, act like it. Focus on helping ppl learn & develop everyway, not training them your way. #lrnchat
09:54:06 pm JaneBozarth: @ReubenTozman oh I’m bored more often than I’m bolred. I like Toronto. Will you be there?  #lrnchat
09:54:20 pm ReubenTozman: RT @marciamarcia: If youre really L&D, act like it. Focus on helping ppl learn & develop everyway, not training them your way. #lrnchat
09:54:34 pm cammybean: RT @marciamarcia: If youre really L&D, act like it. Focus on helping ppl learn & develop everyway, not training them your way. #lrnchat
09:54:35 pm billcush: Are you trying to put me in a box? RT @kelly_smith01: Imagine your self in one of the boxes or lines in a Rummler /Brache flow. #lrnchat
09:54:39 pm Dave_Ferguson: @kelly_smith01 I still have the one that says “when I want your opinion, I’ll give it to you.”
#lrnchat
09:54:43 pm ThomasStone: Shoot… I’m at neither this year. Me =  Masie Learning 11 & Training 12 RT @JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone i’m at devlearn and cstd  #lrnchat
09:54:49 pm kelly_smith01: New bumper sticker “The Future Began Yesterday” #lrnchat
09:54:49 pm JaneBozarth: RT @marciamarcia: If you’re really L&D, act like it. Focus on helping ppl learn & develop every way, not training them your way. #lrnchat
09:54:49 pm minutebio: RT @marciamarcia: If youre really L&D, act like it. Focus on helping ppl learn & develop everyway, not training them your way. #lrnchat
09:54:53 pm kellygarber: RT @marciamarcia: If youre really L&D, act like it. Focus on helping ppl learn & develop every way, not training them your way. #lrnchat
09:54:54 pm jmarrapodi: RT @britz: Q5) To get relevant Training must stop calling people “learners” and call them what they are – workers #lrnchat >Performers
09:55:03 pm ReubenTozman: @JaneBozarth I live in Toronto. I ignore CSTD #lrnchat
09:55:05 pm MariaOD: RT @marciamarcia: If youre really L&D, act like it. Focus on helping ppl learn & develop everyway, not training them your way. #lrnchat
09:55:09 pm jmarrapodi: RT @kelly_smith01: Imagine your self in one of the boxes or lines in a Rummler /Brache flow. You are part of the team. #lrnchat
09:55:19 pm criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Know what drives the business (really) help employees execute that with excellence.
09:55:20 pm kelly_smith01: RT @britz: Q5) To get relevant Training must stop calling people “learners” and call them what they are – workers #lrnchat >Performers
09:55:24 pm Dave_Ferguson: @ThomasStone I’m just at home. #lrnchat
09:55:49 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests, & shameless plugs welcome. #lrnchat
09:55:56 pm britz: Well, I like biting the hand that feeds me as much as the next guy, but alas I must depart. Good night from Syracuse, NY #lrnchat
09:56:09 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests, & shameless plugs welcome. #lrnchat
09:56:13 pm KatieStroudPro: Q5) Respect learners ability to learn and foster that ability #lrnchat (not #lrncht)
09:56:23 pm ThomasStone: My event recap blog posting up tomorrow! RT @JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone would like to hear more about HRTech. Heard good things.  #lrnchat
09:56:36 pm rdeis: RT @kelly_smith01 @minutebio @jmarrapodi: Q5) Stop training when a job aid will do. HT @bmosh @arossett  #lrnchat
09:56:45 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone I’m doing Masie virtually,couldn’t work out the trip. I’ll be at Training 12. Might recruit you for social media rodeo #lrnchat
09:56:48 pm kelly_smith01: RT @KatieStroudPro: Q5) Respect learners ability to learn and foster that ability #lrnchat (not #lrncht)
09:56:51 pm TheAirton: Q5) Spend 90% of your time in and around the business/ learners. Get out of the cave1 #lrnchat
09:57:10 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone good looking forward to it #lrnchat
09:57:17 pm ReubenTozman: wrap) Reuben Tozman. Will be presenting with @aaronsilvers at #devlearn, doing a session on content clouds and now doing #ignite #lrnchat
09:57:29 pm JD_Dillon: Thanks for the #lrnchat, all! JD from Orlando signing out! Keep the learning going 24/7. #virtualhighfives
09:57:30 pm Dave_Ferguson: Rx for Trng Dept (1) What Every Mgr Should Know  /Mager (2) Improving Perf / Rummler & Brache (3) Flawless Consulting / Block #lrnchat
09:57:31 pm cammybean: qw) Cammy Bean with Kineo. Evolving outside of Boston tonight. Trying to help orgs evolve every day. #lrnchat
09:57:33 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat wrap> Thanks for another insightful, fun, chat. Signing off, with a toast to ADDIE. David Glow, Tampa, FL.
09:58:02 pm ReubenTozman: qwrap) Also visit @melissabathory at our booth and ask about #anan. First system of its kind…be amazed #lrnchat
09:58:03 pm kellygarber: RT @TheAirton: Q5) Spend 90% of your time in and around the business/ learners. Get out of the cave #lrnchat
09:58:23 pm kelly_smith01: Qw) Kelly Smith, freelancing instructional design #lrnchat
09:58:42 pm kelly_smith01: RT @kellygarber: RT @TheAirton: Q5) Spend 90% of your time in and around the business/ learners. Get out of the cave  (or silo) #lrnchat
09:58:44 pm cammybean: Plugging my latest article “Learning’s but a stream” http://t.co/Iz8qtdXH #lrnchat
09:58:55 pm billcush: Qwrap)  Bill Cushard. In Denver, CO. Had fun writing this post about branding LMSs internally. http://t.co/MZpo3TIe #lrnchat
09:59:02 pm ThomasStone: .@JaneBozarth Even though I don’t know what a social media rodeo is, count me in anyway. #lrnchat
09:59:12 pm Dave_Ferguson: Dave Ferguson, author of weight-y blog posts, Wash DC, learning consultant, freelance aphorist. #lrnchat
09:59:16 pm JaneBozarth: Jane Bozarth, soon for DevLearn w multi sessions, then CSTD, trying to keep #sociallearning out of the hands of assassins. #lrnchat
09:59:20 pm KatieStroudPro: Qwrap) I came in at the tail end of this chat. I’m a self-proclaimed learning solutions engineer. #lrnchat http://t.co/qQgbCU4C
09:59:25 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone cowboy up!  #lrnchat
09:59:33 pm Dave_Ferguson: @ThomasStone Social medio rodeo — I’m sure there’s branding.
#lrnchat
09:59:46 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone neither do I. #MakinItUp #DontItSoundCool?  #lrnchat
09:59:55 pm ReubenTozman: qwrap) Also publishing book with #astd on “Learning on Demand: How web technology is shaping the future of learning” – buy it #lrnchat
09:59:58 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman, eLearning Designer at Johns Hopkins. Blogging at http://t.co/d4O7gfoG   #lrnchat
09:59:59 pm ThomasStone: Another fine #lrnchat folks, after initial tech glitches. Thomas Stone, from Rochester, NY… signing off.
10:00:11 pm kellygarber: Qwrap) thanks for a great chat tonight, and cheers to the lurkers @chris_garber @tapscout @themartinidiva  #lrnchat
10:00:25 pm marciamarcia: Would you please share this survey w/the ppl in your org responsible for #socbiz strategy? http://t.co/9LMmLpA4 #lrnchat
10:00:50 pm JaneBozarth: Also author “Social Media for Trainers” & “Better than Bullet Points:Creating Engaging eLearning with POWERPOINT” watch for 2nd ed. #lrnchat
10:00:56 pm MMTingley: Qwrap) Melissa Tingley, eLearning ID and general edu-geek, Boston. Good night, all! #lrnchat
10:00:58 pm kelly_smith01: RT @cammybean: Plugging my latest article “Learning’s but a stream” http://t.co/jddqzzTW  #lrnchat
10:01:40 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: “Social Media for Trainers” & “Better than Bullet Points:Creating Engaging eLearning with PPT,” watch for 2nd ed. #lrnchat
10:01:47 pm JaneBozarth: @kellygarber love it when people call out the lurkers  #lrnchat
10:02:10 pm klowey22: RT @marciamarcia: Would u please share this survey w ppl in ur org responsible for #socbiz strategy? http://t.co/UVxrC05y #lrnchat #kmers
10:02:11 pm ThomasStone: .@Dave_Ferguson  I’m allergic to hot pokers. #lrnchat
10:02:31 pm jmarrapodi: Qwrap) Jean M learning architect @ intersection of high tech & low literacy. Plug for 11/2 @LoisKelly @MASS_ISPI on corp rebels  #lrnchat
10:02:45 pm kelly_smith01: Move along there lurker move along #lrnchat
10:03:07 pm minutebio: RT @marciamarcia: …Share this survey w/the ppl in your org responsible for #socbiz strategy? http://t.co/Pw3lD62Z #lrnchat
10:03:13 pm TheAirton: QWrap) Airton, Orlando, Dog walker, Lead singer say hi when you’re here. #FistBumps Great meeting yous #Lrnchat night chat is better….
10:03:45 pm chrisstjohn: Chris StJohn (DAU – the WalMart of Learning) Digital Goverati, Sunday Avatarian #lrnchat
10:03:51 pm JaneBozarth: Ok time to do the IOS5 upgrade. Anybody want to wait with me?  #lrnchat
10:03:57 pm JaneBozarth: RT @kelly_smith01: Move along there lurker move along #lrnchat
10:04:02 pm KatieStroudPro: QWrap2) Plugging my latest article http://t.co/l0QbAaMj Read if you think you’re an expert. #lrnchat
10:04:43 pm JaneBozarth: @kelly_smith01 soon the defense of the lurkers complete w quoting Wenger out of context will begin… #lrnchat

Transcript 13 October 2011(Early)

October 14, 2011

04:30:25 pm lrnchat: Welcome to #lrnchat! How have you been?
04:30:43 pm C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Welcome to #lrnchat! How have you been?
04:30:48 pm jzurovchak: #lrnchat starting!  Get ready to roll!
04:31:03 pm ReubenTozman: RT @lesleywprice: @ReubenTozman: @stevier – love the video yesterday ;) < my fav video of the day is http://t.co/9jwSlfB8 – awesome #lrnchat
04:31:10 pm lesleywprice: RT @C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Welcome to #lrnchat! How have you been? #lrnchat
04:31:13 pm lrnchat: We’re skipping the #lrnchat rules tonight. If you’re new, brush up at http://t.co/4Lr208H4
04:31:18 pm AndreaMay1: Hi #lrnchat ers. Hope everyone had a good week.
04:31:41 pm _Kavi: There you go !! hello all ! RT @lrnchat: Welcome to #lrnchat! How have you been?
04:31:52 pm PaFitzpatrick: Hello all at #lrnchat – Patrick Fitzpatrick from @PTKLearning here in the wonderful city of Sheffield UK
04:31:58 pm kelly_smith01: Prewrap) Fine and busy. #lrnchat
04:32:03 pm olliegardener: RT @AndreaMay1: Hi #lrnchat ers. Hope everyone had a good week. #lrnchat
04:32:07 pm lrnchat: Q0) Let’s get started w/ the #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? What have you learned this week?
04:32:12 pm alc47: Hi everyone – now for some fun relaxation at the end of a busy day! #lrnchat
04:32:22 pm megbertapelle: hi peeps – sorry to miss today, have a good one! off to record VO (eewww, gotta listen to my own voice!) :-) wish me luck! #lrnchat
04:32:23 pm C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q0) Let’s get started w/ the #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? What have you learned this week?
04:32:26 pm jzurovchak: John Zurovchak in Columbus, Ohio – ready for #lrnchat
04:32:30 pm JD_Dillon: It’s time for #lrnchat! Let the collective brilliance commence!
04:32:47 pm ThePrezenter: Hi #lrnchat. It’s been a stressful week so far. Really starting to feel the pinch of the enconomic crisis
04:33:17 pm amirelion: Hi All. Amir Elion from Israel #lrnchat
04:33:25 pm stipton: RT @lrnchat: Q0) Let’s get started w/ the #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? What have you learned this week?
04:33:31 pm ReubenTozman: Reuben Tozman CLO of edCetra Training. Here for 30 mins. I’ve been asked by the republic of me to represent me today
#lrnchat
04:33:40 pm HollyJustice1: Hello from Holly in Oregon! Happy to be join #lrnchat
04:33:50 pm lesleywprice: q0) Today I learned that simple things really do mean a lot this week I’ve learned don’t be afraid to ask for advice #lrnchat
04:33:57 pm ReubenTozman: RT @amirelion: Hi All. Amir Elion from Israel – shalom. ma nishma #lrnchat
04:34:01 pm _Kavi: RT @lrnchat: Q0) Let’s get started w/ the #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? What have you learned this week?
04:34:06 pm alc47: I’ve learned (again) that I’m a techno dunce – but having fun learning to use my iPad #lrnchat
04:34:15 pm jzurovchak: I’ve been looking more into the idea of “badges” in training and skill development….will be interesting to see how it unfolds. #lrnchat
04:34:24 pm amirelion: Q0) Learned today that brewing coffee on a picnic gas stove can be dangerous… #lrnchat
04:34:38 pm JD_Dillon: Q0) The #iOS5 update has helped me learn a lot about the most effective use of my technological resources. #lrnchat
04:34:44 pm lesleywprice: RT @alc47: Ive learned (again) that Im a techno dunce – but having fun learning to use my iPad <at least you have one lol!! #lrnchat
04:35:12 pm C4LPT: @lrnchat Jane Hart joining #lrnchat today from Laguna Niguel in Calfornia
04:35:13 pm ReubenTozman: q0) In 1960, the cost of building a one hour computer based training course for the PLATO system was 300000$. Thats 1960 dollars #lrnchat
04:35:19 pm laurawalshphoto: Attending #lrnchat for first time in months. Interested in how critical learning is to solving societal/economic problems.
04:35:20 pm _Kavi: Q0) I learnt…. that many times good questions are good answers in themselves ! #lrnchat
04:35:20 pm wordwealthy: Attending #lrnchat for first time in months. Interested in how critical learning is to solving societal/economic problems.
04:35:41 pm AjayPangarkar: Hi #lrnchat…doing well. Learned to be more patient with people
04:35:52 pm lesleywprice: q0) I’ve learned that I was right to go Android and not buy a blackberry lol!
#lrnchat
04:35:56 pm alc47: RT @C4LPT: @lrnchat Jane Hart joining #lrnchat today from Laguna Niguel in Calfornia >Lucky for some! #lrnchat
04:36:01 pm AndreaMay1: Q0) This  morning I learned about troubleshooting intermittent  pilot gas burner control systems…hard work for a Thursday morning #lrnchat
04:36:05 pm amirelion: RT @_Kavi: Q0) I learnt…. that many times good questions are good answers in themselves ! AGREED #lrnchat
04:36:10 pm PaFitzpatrick: Q0) This week I have learned that my 3 year old son is very good an negotiation skills – especially when I am not well #lrnchat
04:36:19 pm _Kavi: RT @lesleywprice: q0) Today I learned that simple things really do mean a lot this week I’ve learned don’t be afraid to ask for advice #lrnchat
04:36:25 pm laurawalshphoto: I learned that in the U.S. the quit rate is now higher than layoffs. What does that say? #lrnchat
04:36:43 pm olliegardener: @C4LPT Nice! :) #lrnchat
04:36:46 pm StephenCHudson: q0) I learned that it is better to ask why someone is requesting a change rather than to make it so the solution is best #lrnchat
04:36:58 pm Tracy_Parish: Q0) I learned this week how to admin another LMS.  Can never have too many in one organization.  ugggg #lrnchat
04:37:01 pm _Kavi: Learnt that many times, people just need  a patient ear ! Thats all ! #lrnchat
04:37:11 pm C4LPT: q1) I’ve learned that there still many pple who think  #sociallearning is  something you have to implement top-down in ur org  :( #lrnchat
04:37:18 pm arossett: attending #lrnchat from Laguna Niguel. Learned you can get here from San Diego in 58 minutes.
04:37:24 pm lesleywprice: RT @laurawalshphoto I learned that in the U.S. the quit rate is higher than layoffs. What does that say? < Amazed at that stat!! #lrnchat
04:37:32 pm stipton: Q0) the axiom of telling ppl something 10 times before they absorb your message is sooooo true. #lrnchat
04:37:34 pm ThePrezenter: Q0) Today I’ve learnt that @prezi loves using .swf files. This week I’ve found genius way to prsnt a @prezi using an Android tablet #lrnchat
04:37:35 pm AndreaMay1: RT @laurawalshphoto: I learned that in the U.S. the quit rate is now higher than layoffs. What does that say? #lrnchat <– Interesting!
04:37:53 pm Tracy_Parish: Q0) I also learned the difference in taste from a $40 bottle of wine and a $10 one.  :) #lrnchat
04:38:02 pm _Kavi: The BB outage got me reflecting on dependence on technology ! #lrnchat
04:38:10 pm lesleywprice: RT @C4LPT q1) Ive learned that there still many pple who think #sociallearning is  something you  implement top-down in ur org  :( #lrnchat
04:38:17 pm jzurovchak: Learning about spiders and starfish , Nantaans and decentralized organizations in today’s world…#lrnchat
04:38:25 pm lesleywprice: RT @Tracy_Parish: Q0) I also learned the difference in taste from a $40 bottle of wine and a $10 one.  :) < like that one! #lrnchat
04:38:39 pm lesleywprice: RT @_Kavi: The BB outage got me reflecting on dependence on technology ! #lrnchat
04:38:45 pm ThePrezenter: Q0) I also got very warm fuzzy feeling when building some FISH! training this week. Such a great tool for fun in the workplace #lrnchat
04:38:58 pm AndreaMay1: RT @C4LPT: q1) learned still many pple who think  #sociallearning is  something u have to implement top-down in ur org  :( #lrnchat <-Ugh
04:39:12 pm ThePrezenter: RT @AndreaMay1: RT @laurawalshphoto: I learned that in the U.S. the quit rate is now higher than layoffs. What does that say? #lrnchat <– Interesting!
04:39:24 pm HollyJustice1: Q0) Today’s lesson being nice and offering help pays off – the world is small.  This week learned how to use images in my blog. #lrnchat
04:39:31 pm Tracy_Parish: @ThePrezenter Did people actually get to throw stuff around?  LOL #lrnchat
04:40:00 pm amirelion: I learned that organizing a tweetchat is hard work and not many people come. 2nd #lrnisr chat took placer this week. #lrnchat
04:40:00 pm alc47: @arossett Seems like all the important people are there! #lrnchat
04:40:07 pm lrnchat: Q1) Do training departments have the same influence today that they had five years ago? #lrnchat
04:40:20 pm PaFitzpatrick: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Do training departments have the same influence today that they had five years ago? #lrnchat
04:40:44 pm sparkandco: Lurking in #lrnchat today – I have no training dept so not sure I’ll have much to contribute!
04:40:51 pm lesleywprice: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Do training departments have the same influence today that they had five years ago? #lrnchat
04:41:07 pm kelly_smith01: RT @C4LPT: q1) I’ve learned that there still many pple who think  #SoMe is  something you have to implement top-down in ur org  :( #lrnchat
04:41:08 pm C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Do training departments have the same influence today that they had five years ago? #lrnchat
04:41:17 pm StephanieDaul: Sorry I’m late.  Trying to finish 2 big project that are due at the same time. #lrnchat
04:41:17 pm ThePrezenter: @Tracy_Parish #lrnchat Haha not on this occasion. I’m training on some top secret new mobile devices being released soon so no throwing!
04:41:18 pm lesleywprice: q1) did they ever have influence???  #lrnchat
04:41:31 pm ReubenTozman: q1) Not sure they had any greater influence 5 years ago. Always a silo and still trying to silo themselves I find #lrnchat
04:41:51 pm amirelion: Q1) In Israel some have more, some unchanged. I feel as if the general trend is for deeper influence. #lrnchat
04:41:55 pm AjayPangarkar: Q1) #lrnchat …it depends, the ones that deliver on business objectives “yes”, otherwise they are only a necessary evil for snr managers
04:41:56 pm lesleywprice: RT @ReubenTozman: q1) Not sure they had any greater influence 5 years ago. Always a silo and still trying to silo themselves I find #lrnchat
04:41:56 pm alc47: Q1 Did they have an influence 5 years ago #lrnchat
04:41:56 pm aaronesilvers: Heh > RT @lesleywprice: q1) did they ever have influence???  #lrnchat
04:42:03 pm AndreaMay1: Q1) For the ones  I consult with, I’d say they have more influence in some areas and less in others #lrnchat
04:42:07 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) IMO, training departments have MORE influence, less training and more organizational development groups driving talent growth. #lrnchat
04:42:08 pm jzurovchak: #lrnchat  Q1  – Not sure about our organization…we still creatie”courses” for the masses, but I’m sure there is a lot of “other” going on
04:42:08 pm alc47: RT @ReubenTozman: q1) Not sure they had any greater influence 5 years ago. Always a silo and still trying to silo themselves I find #lrnchat
04:42:24 pm MarniDunning: RT @sparkandco: Lurking in #lrnchat today – I have no training dept so not sure I’ll have much to contribute!
04:42:32 pm arossett: 1) interesting question abt influence of trng depts. What to measure? Did we measure 5 yrs ago? Do we now? Who judges? #lrnchat
04:42:39 pm C4LPT: Q1) They probably like to think they do; but the reality is more and more pple are working around them #lrnchat
04:42:50 pm aaronesilvers: RT @arossett: 1) interesting question abt influence of trng depts. What to measure? Did we measure 5 yrs ago? Do we now? Who judges? #lrnchat
04:42:54 pm lesleywprice: q1) Until training departments understand and align with business objectives they will never have any influence #lrnchat
04:42:55 pm alc47: @AjayPangarkar necessary evils are ceasing to exist – they are being chopped out #lrnchat
04:43:03 pm aaronesilvers: RT @C4LPT: Q1) They probably like to think they do; but the reality is more and more pple are working around them #lrnchat
04:43:08 pm StephenCHudson: q1) social media (lrng) and collab platforms (sharepoint) have democratized learning. I see influence waining #lrnchat
04:43:08 pm LnDDave: Greetings #lrnchat.  David Kelly from NYC, joining a little late.
04:43:11 pm jzurovchak: #lrnchat  Are more peopole really working around training dpts today or are we just able to track it better looking at SOME?
04:43:13 pm ReubenTozman: q1) Backwards logic of training departments is: If I can prove I’m different then I have value. We need an ROI model thats diff’t. #lrnchat
04:43:23 pm AndreaMay1: Q1) Think it depends on the org and how much they value centralized training #lrnchat
04:43:31 pm alc47: RT @C4LPT: Q1) probably think they do; but the reality is more and more pple are working around them. Self-directed learning #lrnchat
04:43:34 pm C4LPT: RT @StephenCHudson: q1) social media (lrng) and collab platforms (sharepoint) have democratized learning. I see influence waining #lrnchat
04:43:35 pm tracydg1: @lesleywprice Agreed #lrnchat
04:43:38 pm ThePrezenter: Q1) Amazing question. I think they do #lrnchat but only the ones taht have moved with the times. I had a job interview a while back…cont
04:43:42 pm PaFitzpatrick: Q1) More influence: TD’s are significant in employee Stabilizing & upskilling is essential to org’s since the economic crisis #lrnchat
04:43:49 pm lesleywprice: RT @LnDDave: Greetings #lrnchat.  David Kelly from NYC, joining a little late. < better late than never :-) #lrnchat
04:43:55 pm wordwealthy: Tweeting from correct account now! Influence of training depts feels limiting to me, since some orgs train without formal dept. #lrnchat
04:43:57 pm stipton: Q1) Absolutely big dif from 5 yrs ago – in the right hands. Stop being trainers, start being business partners. #lrnchat
04:44:00 pm kelly_smith01: How many of us were with the same organization as 5 yrs ago – Does that organization (or even industry) still exist? #lrnchat
04:44:04 pm ThePrezenter: Q1) #lrnchat and was amazed at how they just wrote content and spat out Ppt files.
04:44:14 pm jzurovchak: #lrnchat  Still not sure how much social media is being used in our organization…not sure where or how to look…
04:44:24 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Do training departments have the same influence today that they had five years ago? #lrnchat
04:44:29 pm lesleywprice: RT @stipton: Q1) Absolutely big dif from 5 yrs ago -  Stop being trainers, start being business partners. <exactly!! #lrnchat
04:44:30 pm kelly_smith01: RT @stipton: Q1) Absolutely big dif from 5 yrs ago – in the right hands. Stop being trainers, start being business partners. #lrnchat – Hope
04:44:42 pm AndreaMay1: RT @stipton: Q1)Absolutely big dif from 5 yrs ago – in the right hands. Stop being trainers, start being business partners. #lrnchat <-agree
04:44:52 pm alc47: RT @stipton: Q1) Absolutely big dif – in the right hands. Stop being trainers, start being business partners.>But very few doing it #lrnchat
04:44:57 pm aaronesilvers: Q1) I think 5yrs ago Training Depts. assumed they owned “learning.” Turns out everyone owns it. #lrnchat
04:44:58 pm _Kavi: Q1. Influence is a function of being able to influence. We are lot better than where we were 5 years ago #lrnchat
04:44:59 pm PaFitzpatrick: Q1) however there is more pressure on TD’s now to deliver effective training.  Their accountability has increased dramatically #lrnchat
04:45:02 pm cammybean: Cammy Bean here – tweeting live from Massachusetts. #lrnchat
04:45:05 pm ThePrezenter: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @stipton: Q1) Absolutely big dif from 5 yrs ago – in the right hands. Stop being trainers, start being business partners. #lrnchat – Hope
04:45:12 pm billcush: News: Freeing the LMS  http://t.co/VSq6rJR0 #lrnchat
04:45:18 pm arossett: RT @AndreaMay1: RT @stipton: Q1). Stop being trainers, start being business partners. #lrnchat <-agree
04:45:43 pm aaronesilvers: Q1) Training definitely helps with efficiencies. Training doesn’t necessarily add revenues #assumption #lrnchat
04:45:54 pm ReubenTozman: q1) Training is still an event. We still build events and it needs to stop. #lrnchat
04:45:59 pm jzurovchak: #lrnchat Q1) We seem to still be providing much of the same services to the organization..trying to improve…but no real, hard evidence yet
04:46:00 pm lesleywprice: RT @_Kavi: Q1Influence is a function of being able to influence. We are lot better than 5 years ago <not convinced :-( #lrnchat
04:46:04 pm kelly_smith01: RT @aaronesilvers: Q1) Training definitely helps with efficiencies. Training doesn’t necessarily add revenues #assumption #lrnchat
04:46:06 pm LnDDave: Q1) Training Dept influence is largely determined by the learning culture you are able to build within the org. #lrnchat
04:46:13 pm amirelion: Q1) is their role to have more influence? Or should they work behind the scenes to make other make the difference? #lrnchat
04:46:15 pm alc47: @PaFitzpatrick Delivering effective training does not belong in the new peer connected and social world #lrnchat
04:46:17 pm stipton: .@PaFitzpatrick As it should be, just as every other depart in a business LEARNING needs to be held accountable for their goals. #lrnchat
04:46:19 pm PaFitzpatrick: RT @LnDDave: Q1) Training Dept influence is largely determined by the learning culture you are able to build within the org. #lrnchat
04:46:41 pm sparkandco: RT @reubentozman: q1) Training is still an event. We still build events and it needs to stop. #lrnchat
04:46:52 pm bschlenker: RT @aaronesilvers: Q1) I think 5yrs ago Training Depts. assumed they owned “learning.” Turns out everyone owns it. #lrnchat
04:46:55 pm wordwealthy: Question for me is how much influence does learning have within organizations? What priority does business place on learning? #lrnchat
04:46:56 pm ThePrezenter: RT @aaronesilvers: Q1) I think 5yrs ago Training Depts. assumed they owned “learning.” Turns out everyone owns it. #lrnchat
04:46:57 pm stipton: RT @LnDDave: Q1) Training Dept influence is largely determined by the learning culture you are able to build within the org. #lrnchat
04:47:04 pm ReubenTozman: Have a great #lrnchat. Gotta run. My final thought: for train depts to be relevant they need to cease being a training dept #lrnchat
04:47:06 pm nlkilkenny: #lrnchat Q1) I think they still have some influence. In smart companies their focus & approach has changed.
04:47:12 pm lesleywprice: RT @LnDDave: Q1) Training Dept influence determined by the learning culture< shouldn’t training dept be trying to change culture? #lrnchat
04:47:15 pm jzurovchak: #lrnchat Q1) How many training departments have really made these changes…or just wishful thinking?
04:47:33 pm StephanieDaul: RT @sparkandco: RT @reubentozman: q1) Training is still an event. We still build events and it needs to stop. #lrnchat
04:47:36 pm alc47: RT @sparkandco: RT @reubentozman: q1) Training is still an event. We still build events and it needs to stop.>Keep saying it! #lrnchat
04:47:39 pm ThePrezenter: @sparkandco @reubentozman #lrnchat Such a great point made. I never thought of it in that way. Stop building events!!!
04:47:39 pm lesleywprice: RT @ReubenTozman: Have a great #lrnchat. My final thought: for train depts to be relevant they need to cease being a training dept #lrnchat
04:47:57 pm kelly_smith01: Still  page turning e-learning and this -is-what-you-need-to-know instructor-led learning out there. #lrnchat
04:48:15 pm C4LPT: RT @aaronesilvers Q1) I think 5yrs ago Training Dpts assumed they owned “learning” Turns out everyone owns it #lrnchat <but they cant let go
04:48:15 pm j_allen: RT @aaronesilvers: Q1) I think 5yrs ago Training Depts. assumed they owned “learning.” Turns out everyone owns it. #lrnchat
04:48:16 pm HollyJustice1: Q1)Training depts influence more people + mgmt despite smaller size and less $. Lifetime learning is up in USA due to bad economy #lrnchat
04:48:19 pm PaFitzpatrick: @alc47 I should choose my words more carefully ‘training’ I should be saying empowering KSA #lrnchat
04:48:35 pm _Kavi: q1) The focus is shifting from ‘training’ to ‘performance consulting’. Seen less as an ‘intrusion’ and more as ‘enabler’ #lrnchat
04:48:41 pm Tracy_Parish: Q1) Our training depts r so swamped doing mandatory stuff, that they aren’t able to keep up with devlping new skills for employees. #lrnchat
04:48:41 pm lesleywprice: q1) sometimes feel like a broken record..training depts tend to focus on bums on seats…so focus on wrong end of learner #lrnchat
04:48:54 pm alc47: RT @PaFitzpatrick: @alc47 I should choose my words more carefully training I should be saying empowering KSA>That’s better! #lrnchat
04:49:03 pm ThePrezenter: Q1) #lrnchat Love the ideas here that we need to think of ourselves as business partners and stop thinking of learning as an event
04:49:04 pm stevier: @reubentozman Thanks, Reuben! :) #lrnchat
04:49:05 pm LnDDave: RT @aaronesilvers: Q1) I think 5yrs ago Training Depts. assumed they owned “learning.” Turns out everyone owns it. #lrnchat
04:49:10 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) It takes a learning culture to allow a learning organization to have the right influence on a company’s success. #lrnchat
04:49:11 pm stipton: .@wordwealthy “What priority does business place on learning? ” Business only makes L&D a priority based leardership from L&D #lrnchat
04:49:17 pm amirelion: Q1) Events <> Influence. Tackling real problems and opportunities = influence. #lrnchat
04:49:22 pm AndreaMay1: @jzurovchak  In my  experience , training departments are becoming much more strategic and less about how many people trained #lrnchat
04:49:26 pm TruaxTrainer: RT @HollyJustice1: Q1)Training depts influence more people + mgmt despite smaller size and less $. Lifetime learning is up in USA due to bad economy #lrnchat
04:49:30 pm PaFitzpatrick: @alc47  it was a moment of been stuck in the past – wont happen again #lrnchat
04:49:38 pm _Kavi: Q1) Technology has played a major role in the way people learn. Its a golden opp for Learning function #lrnchat
04:49:45 pm LnDDave: Q1) The training departments that have focused less on training and more on performance likely have more influence. #lrnchat
04:49:52 pm StephanieDaul: RT @lesleywprice: feels like a broken record..training depts tend to focus on bums on seats…so focus on wrong end of learner #lrnchat
04:49:52 pm bschlenker: Q1) If we thought Trng Dpts were “the first to go” in hard times before.  Today, its almost justified. Begin to think different #lrnchat
04:50:07 pm jzurovchak: @PaFitzpatrick Good to hear! We seem to still be stuck in the mire here…trying to change…but no evidence yet…#lrnchat
04:50:09 pm PaFitzpatrick: RT @LnDDave: Q1) The training departments that have focused less on training and more on performance likely have more influence. #lrnchat
04:50:10 pm aaronesilvers: RT @bschlenker: Q1) If we thought Trng Dpts were “the first to go” in hard times before.  Today, its almost justified. Begin to think different #lrnchat
04:50:11 pm stipton: .@lesleywprice Totally agree – butts in seats means nothing.  Business wants performance results, that’s how L&D stays critical. #lrnchat
04:50:23 pm alc47: RT @LnDDave: Q1) The training departments that have focused less on training and more on performance likely have more influence. #lrnchat
04:50:43 pm _Kavi: RT @AndreaMay1: @jzurovchak  In my  experience , training departments are becoming much more strategic and less about how many people trained #lrnchat
04:50:47 pm tracydg1: @_Kavi Exactly.  Who said there’s no training problem, there are performance problems. Training is one of the solutions. #lrnchat
04:50:53 pm jzurovchak: We are definitely still counting completions…data fed up to the execs based on “courses” completed… #lrnchat
04:50:59 pm stipton: .@jzurovchak  evidence of what? #lrnchat
04:50:59 pm olliegardener: q1) the training depts influence (on what matters) is determined by what role they enact in the business #lrnchat
04:51:07 pm JffZllr: Training still a need for blue-collar beginrs. @reubentozman: q1) Training is still an event. We still build events / needs to stop #lrnchat
04:51:07 pm HollyJustice1: RT Yes!@LnDDave Q1) Training Dept influence is largely determined by the learning culture you are able to build within the org. #lrnchat
04:51:16 pm wordwealthy: @stipton But if you have leadership who believes in potential of learning/knows it works, they may nurture learning culture. #lrnchat
04:51:17 pm _Kavi: Q1) Its a competitive time. Learning is becoming a differentiator. And more importantly, business is seeing it. #lrnchat
04:51:18 pm tracydg1: RT @alc47: RT @LnDDave: Q1) The training departments that have focused less on training and more on performance likely have more influence. #lrnchat
04:51:25 pm alc47: RT @bschlenker: Q1)  thought Trng Dpts were “1st to go” in hard times before.  Today, IT IS justified. Think different – QUICKLY #lrnchat
04:51:30 pm olliegardener: RT @LnDDave: Q1) The training departments that have focused less on training and more on performance likely have more influence. #lrnchat
04:51:40 pm petersonandrew: #lrnchat Formal training fills in the assembly line knowledge gaps
04:51:43 pm lesleywprice: RT @tracydg1: @_Kavi Exactly.  Training is one of the solutions. < only if its aligned to business performance #lrnchat
04:51:48 pm jzurovchak: @stipton  Evidence of a shift away from counting course completions and toward some of the other ideas in this forum #lrnchat
04:51:52 pm ThePrezenter: RT @_Kavi: Q1) Its a competitive time. Learning is becoming a differentiator. And more importantly, business is seeing it. #lrnchat
04:51:56 pm AndreaMay1: RT @JffZllr: Training still a need for blue-collar beginrs.  #lrnchat <–very true!
04:52:15 pm tracydg1: When seen as a performance consulting, training depts tend to be more easily acceptable and seen as a business partner #lrnchat
04:52:17 pm alc47: @JffZllr Most blue collar workers learn most from watching their experienced workmates – just like everyone else #lrnchat
04:52:28 pm PaFitzpatrick: Q1) TD’s MUST educate the rest of the business so that they understand L&D, forms of L&D that work effectively for role/person/dept #lrnchat
04:52:31 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) Key to continued success is continued learning. The right learning org can facilitate this, but the culture must align. #lrnchat
04:52:31 pm wordwealthy: RT @tracydg1 @alc47 @LnDDave: Q1) training depts that focus less on training and more on performance likely have more influence. #lrnchat
04:52:42 pm aaronesilvers: Q1) For years, “training” measured what could easily be measured. We forget that what we count doesn’t necessarily count. #lrnchat
04:53:04 pm LnDDave: Q1) It’s somewhat ironic, but the training departments that influence more realize they need to control less. #lrnchat
04:53:17 pm sparkandco: RT @AndreaMay1 @JffZllr: Training still need 4 blue-collar beginrs.  #lrnchat <–very true! <but still need fdbk loops + spaced repetition
04:53:24 pm C4LPT: Q1) T depts influence is  still mainly to enforce formal training – which people endure rather than enjoy  #lrnchat
04:53:29 pm bschlenker: Q1) We should begin to train companies how to train each other…to make this transition with new media.  THAT’s where the value is #lrnchat
04:53:29 pm lesleywprice: RT @AndreaMay1 @JffZllr Training still need for blue-collar beginrs.  #lrnchat < true! <but only if it serves a real business need #lrnchat
04:53:31 pm alc47: RT @aaronesilvers: Q1) “training” measured what could easily be measured. We forget that what we count doesnt necessarily count. #lrnchat
04:53:33 pm amirelion: RT @aaronesilvers: We forget that what we count doesnt necessarily count. #lrnchat
04:53:39 pm StephanieDaul: RT @LnDDave: Q1) Its somewhat ironic, but the training departments that influence more realize they need to control less. #lrnchat
04:53:39 pm stipton: @wordwealthy absolutely – L&D has take resp for blding culture w/bus. We sit in corner &complain & do nothing to lead the charge.  #lrnchat
04:53:45 pm jzurovchak: RT @bschlenker: Q1) We should begin to train companies how to train each other…to make this transition with new media.  THAT’s where the value is #lrnchat
04:53:55 pm lesleywprice: RT @C4LPT: Q1) T depts influence is  still mainly to enforce formal training – which people endure rather than enjoy <exactly! #lrnchat
04:53:55 pm PaFitzpatrick: @jzurovchak it just take one new innovator and one new acceptor to make a change #lrnchat
04:53:57 pm JffZllr: @alc47 – I don’t disagree – if your experienced people are competent. Otherwise “follow Bob” training can be hazardous #lrnchat
04:54:01 pm ThePrezenter: RT @aaronesilvers: Q1) For years, “training” measured what could easily be measured. We forget that what we count doesn’t necessarily count. #lrnchat
04:54:04 pm bschlenker: RT @C4LPT: Q1) T depts influence is  still mainly to enforce formal training – which people endure rather than enjoy <true that! #lrnchat
04:54:31 pm jzurovchak: @PaFitzpatrick  Wish it were the case here…still hitting the wall….#lrnchat
04:54:57 pm aaronesilvers: Q1) @JffZllr is dead-on. Training is hugely important for skilled labor, military… #lrnchat
04:55:03 pm medikly: Here’s a great presentation if you need inspiration: Shifting To 21st Century Learning http://t.co/uAKfnQ25 #sociallearning #lrnchat
04:55:05 pm alc47: RT @bschlenker: RT @C4LPT: Q1) T depts influence is  still mainly to enforce formal training >Still command and control mentality #lrnchat
04:55:07 pm AndreaMay1: RT @sparkandco: Training still need 4 blue-collar beginrs.  #lrnchat <–very true! <but still need fdbk loops + spaced repetition <-For sure
04:55:07 pm JffZllr: Once employee knows basics, tie them to a community for ongoing improvement/feedback #lrnchat
04:55:08 pm gerdriesen: Q0) Ger Driesen Netherlands L&D junk learned today from millenial @veramaliepaard more about how they like to work as professional #lrnchat
04:55:19 pm lesleywprice: q1) why don’t training departments anticipate…if they really understood the business they could and then add real value #lrnchat
04:55:25 pm stipton: Let me get this off my chest – stop, for love of Pete, calling yourselves a “training” depart.  We train dogs, we develop people.  #lrnchat
04:55:25 pm bschlenker: @JffZllr That’s why TRUST is important.  If you TRUST that you’re workers are competent then “follow Bob” works fine…right? #lrnchat
04:55:34 pm PaFitzpatrick: @C4LPT the issue is – organisation dont want people to enjoy work, so why enjoy learning? needs to be a mass change in attitude #lrnchat
04:55:36 pm amirelion: Wonder if those that haven’t change will be around in 5 years time… #lrnchat
04:55:37 pm olliegardener: RT @alc47: @JffZllr Most blue collar workers r improvising, learning as they go. Require a wider PLN than the ‘more exp.employees’ #lrnchat
04:55:50 pm TekaraInc: Its a competitive time. Learning is becoming a differentiator. And more importantly, business is seeing it. #lrnchat ~Well said @_Kavi
04:55:50 pm wordwealthy: RT @bschlenker @C4LPT: Q1) T depts influence still mainly to enforce formal training which people endure rather than enjoy <true! #lrnchat
04:55:58 pm alc47: RT @JffZllr: Once employee knows basics, ENCOURAGE them into a community for ongoing improvement/feedback #lrnchat
04:56:03 pm ThePrezenter: Q2) 90% focused on online training and eLearning, and realising that face2face classroom sessions are a thing of the past #lrnchat
04:56:08 pm JffZllr: I think most of our #lrnchat conversations tend to focus on knowledge workers.
04:56:11 pm lesleywprice: RT @stipton: Let me get this off my chest – stop, calling yourselves a “training” depart.We train dogs, we develop people.  #lrnchat
04:56:13 pm HollyJustice1: RT @jzurovchak I agree Counting Completions doesn’t tell whole story. Train for job improvements and new projects assigned! #lrnchat
04:56:14 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) Training dept should be a key partner in all facets of the business and support a learning culture, not just events. #lrnchat
04:56:35 pm bschlenker: ? + ? != ?  #lrnchat
04:57:00 pm olliegardener: RT @alc47: RT @JffZllr: Once employee knows basics, ENCOURAGE them into a community for ongoing improvement/feedback #lrnchat
04:57:08 pm aaronesilvers: @JffZllr I hear you, boss. #lrnchat
04:57:09 pm JffZllr: Right @bschlenker That’s why TRUST is important. If you TRUST that you’re workers are competent then “follow Bob” works fine-right? #lrnchat
04:57:18 pm sparkandco: RT @JffZllr: I think most of our #lrnchat conversations tend to focus on knowledge workers. <good observation – challenge us
04:57:23 pm nlkilkenny: @techherding Hi, Dick: Q2) Where did you think the training department would be by now? #lrnchat
04:57:24 pm aaronesilvers: RT @bschlenker: ? + ? != ?  #lrnchat
04:57:29 pm TerrenceWing: Well said RT @StephanieDaul: RT @LnDDave the training departments that influence more realize they need to control less. #lrnchat
04:57:33 pm techherding: Lovin’ it!
RT @amirelion: RT @aaronesilvers: We forget that what we count doesnt necessarily count. #lrnchat
04:57:40 pm nlkilkenny: Q2) Thought they’d buy in to “informal learning” principles and cultural practices more by now…. maybe an inch or two more :) #lrnchat
04:57:44 pm PaFitzpatrick: @jzurovchak I will have some major change things to show you at the end of the year — watch this space #lrnchat
04:58:05 pm statweestics: #lrnchat is getting popular, +900% the last hour : http://t.co/dUAMEJ4d
04:58:05 pm ThePrezenter: #lrnchat Gotta fly guys. Enjoy the rest of your chat. Will trya nd catch up later.
04:58:44 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Where did you think the training department would be by now? #lrnchat
04:58:49 pm TheAirton: Q1) It seems most Learning/ Training Depts have a predisposed mentality to “ride in the back” and be okay with that #lrnchat
04:59:01 pm C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Where did you think the training department would be by now? #lrnchat
04:59:04 pm nlonergan: RT @bschlenker: RT @C4LPT: Q1) T depts influence is  still mainly to enforce formal training – which people endure rather than enjoy <true that! #lrnchat
04:59:06 pm lesleywprice: @lrnchat: Q2) Where did you think the training department would be by now? #lrnchat
04:59:28 pm amirelion: Q2) Thought they’d stop asking mgrs. what courses you need? and start asking what are your performance problems. #lrnchat
04:59:35 pm JD_Dillon: I don’t do #training. I do #learning. #lrnchat
04:59:45 pm jzurovchak: #lrnchat Q2)  Would have liked more  unfettered use of social media tools to build communities within the company….
04:59:48 pm wordwealthy: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Where did you think the training department would be by now? #lrnchat
04:59:51 pm C4LPT: FYI Just seen a notification there is  a Twitter timeline problem #lrnchat
05:00:04 pm HollyJustice1: Q2) Hoped for lots of training by video live plus more interactive self-paced training. Still too much passive learning out there. #lrnchat
05:00:17 pm AndreaMay1: RT @stipton: stop, for love of Pete, calling yourselves a “training” depart.  We train dogs, we develop people.  #lrnchat <–LOL Love it!
05:00:17 pm lesleywprice: q2) thought they might have learned something about training that meets business needs …or is that too big an ask? #lrnchat
05:00:26 pm _Kavi: Q2) Data would be paramount. measuerment would be paramount. While its been important, its not paramount ! performace is ! #lrnchat
05:00:34 pm stipton: Parting thought – good to vent but up to L&D to lead the charge. want Change in culture, start it – don’t take no for an answer.  #lrnchat
05:00:37 pm Tracy_Parish: Q2) I was hoping we would have grown staff-wise.  10 years ago 1:266, now were are  1:1000, staff:employees.  #lrnchat
05:00:38 pm dpontefract: Retired. RT @lrnchat: Q2) Where did you think the training department would be by now? #lrnchat
05:00:43 pm lesleywprice: RT @C4LPT: FYI Just seen a notification there is  a Twitter timeline problem..< twitter has been playing up all afternoon #lrnchat
05:01:16 pm stipton: Gotta run – I love the conversation but conference calls are in my immediate future.  #lrnchat
05:01:18 pm dainadunlop: Q2) The same place they’ve been for a long time – need to hire people with a biz background and separate from the HR dept to chg #lrnchat
05:01:35 pm arossett: Hate to fling a cliche, but I hoped the trng dept would have a seat at the table, to influence and execute strategy, to matter. #lrnchat
05:01:39 pm sue_freeman1: @C4LPT #lrnchat Way more use of technology to demonstrate diversity in means of getting the message across.
05:01:40 pm alc47: RT @dpontefract: Retired. RT @lrnchat: Q2) Where did you think the training department would be by now?>Great answer! #lrnchat
05:01:41 pm jzurovchak: Q2) Our execs are taking notice of social media tools to connect w retail customers, but not so much for developing employees yet  #lrnchat
05:01:42 pm _Kavi: Q2) Thought most training depts wouldnt go beyond training ! today we have a firmt foot in the partnership door #lrnchat
05:01:42 pm LnDDave: Q2) Honestly? I expect the industry to be exactly where it is. We still need to tip the scales towards this mass shift. #lrnchat
05:01:43 pm DannyOrtegon: Q1) Smart leaders have always opposed anything not supporting BU results. Latest online learning “revolution” just makes it easier #lrnchat
05:01:55 pm tracydg1: RT @AndreaMay1: RT @stipton: stop, for love of Pete, calling yourselves a “training” depart.  We train dogs, we develop people.  #lrnchat <–LOL Love it!
05:02:13 pm wordwealthy: Q2) Not called a training dept, for starters. Expected more to be focused on personal relevancy and informal learning.#lrnchat
05:02:28 pm dainadunlop: Q2) They still use “Smile” sheets after training – that’s got to go #lrnchat
05:02:44 pm JffZllr: RT @jzurovchak: Q2) Our execs are taking notice of SOME tools to connect w retail customers, but not for developing employees yet  #lrnchat
05:02:50 pm sue_freeman1: @stipton #lrnchat  I am working subversively at that — trying to set a good example!
05:03:16 pm tracydg1: Q2) thought the word ‘training’ would be archaic and we would be focusing on true learning and development. #lrnchat
05:03:32 pm AjayPangarkar: Training dept must change (they haven’t so far) …they must recognize they are a business unit, not an “academic” unit #lrnchat
05:03:41 pm _Kavi: Q2)Thought we would need more skills in delivery etc ! Discovering that we need to enable access to knowledge/learning & step aside #lrnchat
05:03:44 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) I’d expect learning to be accepted as driver of financial success. I get that corporate culture is not quite there … yet. #lrnchat
05:04:05 pm JffZllr: But some only change their name and keep doing what they’re doing… RT @stipton: stop calling yourselves a “training” depart. #lrnchat
05:04:07 pm _Kavi: RT @dainadunlop: Q2) They still use “Smile” sheets after training – that’s got to go #lrnchat
05:04:17 pm nlkilkenny: @arossett #lrnchat That’s not a cliche it’s valid and an actual need. Training & ID’s often are seen as peripheral like IT.
05:04:43 pm LnDDave: Q2) The question represents the problem. Most never considered it. It’s hard to think about tomorrow when you live in yesterday. #lrnchat
05:04:47 pm aaronesilvers: Q2) I had kinda hoped that for corporate types, “training” would’ve shrunk a bit, maybe even integrated more and become a practice. #lrnchat
05:04:48 pm twb822: @TerrenceWing @StephanieDaul @LnDDave  I agree with a hearty AMEN!!!  Control is a delusion  #lrnchat
05:05:00 pm chrismaclaren: @JD_Dillon Agree – still think learning depts are seen as a nice to have – the blame I think lies with the L&D depts themselves
#lrnchat
05:05:06 pm C4LPT: Q2) I had hoped T depts would be encouraging indivs and teams to become more self-reliant in addressing their performance problems #lrnchat
05:05:08 pm lesleywprice: RT @_Kavi: RT @dainadunlop: Q2) They still use “Smile” sheets after training – thats got to go <hate happy sheets :-) :-) #lrnchat
05:05:22 pm nlkilkenny: Oh twitter how you gobble up & spit out my tweets #lrnchat
05:05:22 pm stipton: @JffZllr It starts with a mindset change.  as do most things. #lrnchat
05:05:32 pm tracydg1: Q2) food for thought:how about being a service provider and partner rather than a cost centre? #lrnchat
05:05:53 pm bschlenker: For non-Apple geeks: ? + ? != ? (translation: Command & Control is not an Option) #lrnchat
05:05:59 pm lesleywprice: @nlkilkenny: @arossett  Training & IDs often are seen as peripheral like IT < thats because they are seen as back office function #lrnchat
05:06:05 pm LearnNuggets: Q2) Training dept will change from the top down. Needs a strategic ‘leader’ and not looked at as “that dept. over there.” #lrnchat
05:06:11 pm C4LPT: RT @tracydg1: Q2) tht the word ‘training’ wd be archaic & we wd be focusing on true learning & dev. #lrnchat <more than that -on performance
05:06:13 pm dainadunlop: and they need different people to affect that chg RT @stipton: @JffZllr It starts with a mindset change.  as do most things. #lrnchat
05:06:18 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) I think the backseat mentality is partially L&D’s fault … but who put them there in the first place? #lrnchat
05:06:25 pm techherding: +1Go You! RT @stipton: Stop, for love of Pete, calling yourselves a “training” depart.  We train dogs, we develop people.  #lrnchat
05:06:28 pm aaronesilvers: Q2) Training is supposed to be something we do to develop novices into journeymen. It’s a verb that became a department. #lrnchat
05:06:39 pm TheAirton: Q2) I expected a more solutions based partnership as o
pposed to a “I need/ You make’ #lrnchat
05:06:45 pm chrismaclaren: Q2) I am not surprised to see learning depts in a similar place to where they were 5 years ago – they are often last to innovate!
#lrnchat
05:06:45 pm wordwealthy: RT @JD_Dillon: Q2) I’d expect learning to be accepted as driver of financial success. > YES! #lrnchat
05:06:56 pm LearnNuggets: RT @bschlenker: For non-Apple geeks: ? + ? != ? (translation: Command & Control is not an Option) #lrnchat < Nice!
05:06:57 pm DannyOrtegon: Q2) L&D groups face absorption/exile into “HR Line”. Pressure of org hiearchy trumps critical assessment. #lrnchat
05:07:15 pm PaFitzpatrick: q2) TD’s have advanced. BUT a better understanding on how media tech can dramatically change learning is required #lrnchat
05:07:29 pm JffZllr: RT @TheAirton: Q2) I expected a more solutions based partnership as opposed to a “I need/ You make’ #lrnchat
05:07:40 pm HollyJustice1: Safety, paying attention is key. My hubby trains UPS newbies in loading trailers; they work to avoid accidents. @JffZllr @alc47  #lrnchat
05:07:42 pm LnDDave: Q2) I would have expected more trainers to have the “It’s not about me” epiphany. #lrnchat
05:07:46 pm _Kavi: Q2)  Move from being a ‘cost centre’  to …. #lrnchat
05:07:47 pm AndreaMay1: Q2) I truly thought many of them would have more flexibility/agility by now…not so much #lrnchat
05:07:54 pm amirelion: Q2) I joined internal t. depts. 5.5 years ago. Felt I had influence, but not enough. Maybe that’s why I left for supplier side now #lrnchat
05:07:59 pm SandyAdam: RT @bschlenker: For non-Apple geeks: ? + ? != ? (translation: Command & Control is not an Option) #lrnchat
05:08:07 pm C4LPT: RT @chrismaclaren:Q2) I am not surprised to see learning depts in a similar place to 5 years ago – they are often last to innovate! #lrnchat
05:08:10 pm techherding: Big diff btw “competent” and “teacher” RT @bschlenker: @JffZllr  If you TRUST that your wkrs are cmpt then “follow Bob” works fine #lrnchat
05:08:19 pm LearnNuggets: @techherding @stipton We could call it the HCMDO – Human Capital Management Development Organization? #lrnchat
05:08:23 pm AndreaMay1: RT @amirelion: Q2) Thought they’d stop asking mgrs. what courses you need? and start asking what r your performance problems. #lrnchat <wish
05:08:33 pm tracydg1: @C4LPT Agree. In support of the organisation’s overall performance. #lrnchat
05:08:36 pm KavisMusings: RT @LnDDave: Q2) I would have expected more trainers to have the “It’s not about me” epiphany. #lrnchat
05:08:43 pm aaronesilvers: Q2) Luke Skywalker had Jedi Training. It’s not all bad. Note though — Master (Yoda) to Apprentice (Luke) #lrnchat
05:08:46 pm bschlenker: Idealist: Training is for dogs.  Realist: Training is for workers doing repetitive tasks that they need to memorize, do better. #lrnchat
05:08:48 pm lesleywprice: Q2)  Its not just about learning its about understanding where skills and knowledge are relevant and applying where appropriate #lrnchat
05:08:49 pm techherding: OK.  You all knew I was lying when I said I was going to lurk, right?  #lrnchat
05:08:55 pm SandyAdam: @C4LPT whew, thought it was me #lrnchat
05:09:03 pm dainadunlop: Q2) maybe “training dept’s” need to be trained on how to chg. Where’s the ASTD/CSTD leadership in that? #lrnchat
05:09:06 pm LnDDave: RT @bschlenker: Idealist: Training is for dogs.  Realist: Training is for workers doing repetitive tasks that they need to memorize, do better. #lrnchat
05:09:14 pm gerdriesen: Q2) Just tell Mngt you will skip all training initiatives and from their reaction you’ll know where you are #lrnchat
05:09:18 pm nlkilkenny: @lesleywprice @arossett Think it’s ironic. Training/ID just like IT is key to business success. :) Still believe it! #lrnchat
05:09:27 pm lrnchat: Q3) What do training departments do well that people don’t always notice they do well? #lrnchat
05:09:31 pm AndreaMay1: @stipton  Have fun on those! #lrnchat
05:09:33 pm PaFitzpatrick: q2) do TD’s know how social media, games tech, mobile apps, etc can deliver the essential KSA’s? If not, then the business doesnt #lrnchat
05:09:34 pm MikeCollins007: RT @lesleywprice RT @stipton: We train dogs, we develop people  #lrnchat > like photographs? ;-) Ppl develop themselves in right conditions
05:09:45 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q2 the training department is where I thought it’d be: SMEs produce the bulk of their own learning experiences mentored by IDs
05:09:47 pm _Kavi: Q2) Steady state in learning is a dynamic place ! #lrnchat
05:09:48 pm aaronesilvers: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What do training departments do well that people don’t always notice they do well? #lrnchat
05:09:49 pm AjayPangarkar: Q2) #lrnchat…there is nro shame in being a cost center…but be a contributing business unit
05:09:54 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What do training departments do well that people don’t always notice they do well? #lrnchat << C.Y.A.
05:09:54 pm C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What do training departments do well that people don’t always notice they do well? #lrnchat
05:10:05 pm KavisMusings: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What do training departments do well that people don’t always notice they do well? #lrnchat
05:10:05 pm nlkilkenny: RT @dainadunlop: Q2) maybe “training dept’s” need to be trained on how to chg. Where’s the ASTD/CSTD leadership in that? #lrnchat
05:10:06 pm dainadunlop: Q3) they improve internal processes and the customer exp #lrnchat
05:10:07 pm lesleywprice: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What do training departments do well that people dont always notice they do well? #lrnchat
05:10:11 pm TheAirton: Those in #Learning aren’t prepared or care to the right questions or see the expectations to be considered a “partner” #lrnchat
05:10:18 pm nlkilkenny: RT @bschlenker: Idealist: Training is for dogs.  Realist: Training is for workers doing repetitive tasks that they need to memorize, do better. #lrnchat
05:10:20 pm chrismaclaren: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What do training departments do well that people dont always notice they do well? #lrnchat
05:10:22 pm jzurovchak: Q3)  #lrnchat  Use SoMe as a means to connect and build community….demonstrating the desired end in the process…
05:10:24 pm tracydg1: L&D needs to really view itself as being a strategic / forward thnkg entity within the org rather than reactive and responsive #lrnchat
05:10:40 pm lesleywprice: q3)still trying to figure that one out :-) #lrnchat
05:10:49 pm _Kavi: Q3) They create a +ve mood in the organisation.  A mood that the org is interested in employees #lrnchat
05:10:55 pm amirelion: Q3) Some t.dept I know do quite a decent job at induction of large numbers of employees #lrnchat
05:11:04 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q3 training departments do this very well (not that it’s noticed): scaffold SMEs developing their own learning experiences.
05:11:07 pm DannyOrtegon: Q2) Ex: Absorption of many OD functions into “HR” pretty much done deal. L&D must leverage online by being learning architects. #lrnchat
05:11:16 pm Tracy_Parish: RT @_Kavi: Q3) They create a +ve mood in the organisation.  A mood that the org is interested in employees #lrnchat
05:11:16 pm PaFitzpatrick: Q3) unfortunately, there is not enough of success measurement carried out – learning Impact on Business #lrnchat
05:11:25 pm AndreaMay1: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What do training departments do well that people don’t always notice they do well? #lrnchat
05:11:35 pm HollyJustice1: I agree. Many jobs in training facilitate partnerships now. RT @_Kavi Q2)… enable access to knowledge/learning & step aside #lrnchat
05:11:41 pm LearnNuggets: Daytime #lrnchat is hard to participate. Just got pulled away. Hope to see/play tonight.
05:11:44 pm LnDDave: Q3) Most Orgs respect the program, but do not realize what it took to build it. #lrnchat
05:11:44 pm TheAirton: Q3) Picking the right color and  animations/ transitions for the slides #lrnchat
05:11:47 pm _Kavi: Q3) Creating the +ve mood is often not noticed. But remove all learning initiatives and then see the reaction ! #lrnchat
05:11:49 pm nlkilkenny: @AndreaMay1 @amirelion #lrnchat Amen! Yes! I see some HPI (Performance needs) being addressed but it’s slowly catching on where I work.
05:12:16 pm _Kavi: bang on ! RT @LnDDave: Q3) Most Orgs respect the program, but do not realize what it took to build it. #lrnchat
05:12:20 pm tederick: RT @dpontefract: Retired. RT @lrnchat: Q2) Where did you think the training department would be by now? #lrnchat
05:12:24 pm techherding: @LearnNuggets @stipton Or call it Big Important Training Environment Educational Mechanism #lrnchat
05:12:28 pm urbie: late to the #lrnchat party today: #iOS5 issues delayed me. haven’t updated? might want to wait for the .x release
05:12:38 pm tracydg1: Q3) Are the face of the org and set the tone (usually positive and uplifting) for newcomers #lrnchat
05:12:40 pm chrismaclaren: Finally someone noticed!! Haha RT @TheAirton: Q3) Picking the right color and  animations/ transitions for the slides #lrnchat
05:12:42 pm lesleywprice: RT @TheAirton: Q3) Picking the right color and  animations/ transitions for the slides < lol!! :-) #lrnchat
05:12:43 pm wordwealthy: Q3) I don’t know. Haven’t noticed. ;-) …BUT probably large-scale coordination of formal learning. Ton of work goes into it. #lrnchat
05:12:46 pm PaFitzpatrick: Q3) differing performance agenda can disrupt this: what works for one – doesnt work for another #lrnchat
05:12:49 pm ebase: Q3) What do training departments do well that people dont always notice they do well? #lrnchat  Keep track of people places and resources
05:12:54 pm JD_Dillon: Q3) What do we do well? Needs analysis for identifying performance AND operational gaps – turning this into learning interventions. #lrnchat
05:13:00 pm chrismaclaren: Spot on! RT @LnDDave: Q3) Most Orgs respect the program, but do not realize what it took to build it. #lrnchat
05:13:02 pm aaronesilvers: Q3) Training is great for mechanics. Training is great for skills that make use of efficiency and effectiveness. #lrnchat
05:13:10 pm arossett: q3) so called training depts typically give a hoot about people development. They advocate it. They symbolize continuous growth.  #lrnchat
05:13:13 pm LnDDave: Q3) Project Management. #lrnchat
05:13:38 pm sue_freeman1: #lrnchat “lrn depts the last to innovate”– lrn ldrshp seen as dev oppty =18-24 mo revolving door.  Good lrn ldrshp is NOT common or casual!
05:13:45 pm bschlenker: RT @ebase: Q3) What do training departments do well that people dont always notice they do well? #lrnchat  Keep track of people places and resources
05:13:46 pm lesleywprice: RT @LnDDave: Q3) Project Management. < ooohh wish I had thought of that one :-) #lrnchat
05:13:47 pm tracydg1: Q3) begin the integration into the org #lrnchat
05:13:52 pm ebase: Q3) What do training departments do well that people dont always notice they do well?  Be consistent in quality and delivery    #lrnchat
05:13:54 pm _Kavi: Q3) L&D teams know the pulse of the organisation.  #lrnchat
05:14:03 pm Tracy_Parish: Q3) Social convening.  We can host events, any event, with our eyes close. #lrnchat
05:14:05 pm chrismaclaren: Q3) Navigating the organization, networking, leveraging SME’s, helping facilitate the sharing of knowledge #lrnchat
05:14:28 pm aaronesilvers: Q3) What training doesn’t do is provide the “adaptive stance” people need to deal with the unknowns. #lrnchat
05:14:29 pm sue_freeman1: #lrnchat We are VERY responsive to our customers!
05:14:36 pm Tracy_Parish: Q3) We’re great at taking the complex and making it look simple or manageable. #lrnchat
05:14:44 pm lesleywprice: RT @_Kavi: Q3) L&D teams know the pulse of the organisation. < if only :-( #lrnchat
05:14:45 pm HollyJustice1: Q3) Seek outside opinions via #lrnchat!  Keep up with the tools of the trade. Hard for those outside training to see importance.
05:14:47 pm LnDDave: Q3) Communicate Effectively. #lrnchat
05:14:54 pm LnDDave: RT @Tracy_Parish: Q3) We’re great at taking the complex and making it look simple or manageable. #lrnchat
05:15:08 pm amirelion: Q3)  sometimes good t. dept. are able to put a shocking mirror in front of execs #lrnchat
05:15:11 pm aaronesilvers: Q3) Training is about algorithms. For heuristics, you need to be cognitively flexible; agile and adaptive #lrnchat
05:15:14 pm bschlenker: RT @aaronesilvers: Q3) Training is great for mechanics. Training is great for skills that make use of efficiency and effectiveness. #lrnchat
05:15:14 pm billcush: Please Don’t Call Your LMS an LMS | @Mindflash http://t.co/UUgfMPnR #lrnchat
05:15:25 pm dainadunlop: Yes we are RT @Tracy_Parish: Q3) We’re great at taking the complex and making it look simple or manageable. #lrnchat
05:15:26 pm AndreaMay1: Q3)Trng dept  r good at setting and maintaining standards…bad thing about decentralized, informal…no standards, can’t maintain #lrnchat
05:15:33 pm arossett: q3) Training depts know where unrealized resources sit. Like 1st line supervisors. Oh how we need them, oh how they frustrate us. #lrnchat
05:15:36 pm _Kavi: 3) The defining of problems by business leaders, bring clarity to themselves ! Good questions help ! #lrnchat
05:15:36 pm tracydg1: Q3) forward thinking depts usually introduce the org to new technologies to help to improve learning, communication, collaboration #lrnchat
05:15:40 pm chrismaclaren: Q3) demonstrate high communication, presentation and facilitation skills
#lrnchat
05:15:56 pm AndreaMay1: @nlkilkenny  It can’t happen fast enough! #lrnchat
05:16:03 pm MikeCollins007: Q3. No one has mentioned having to demo to regulator that ppl have received training via induction or programme to be compliant #lrnchat
05:16:04 pm JJRiquelmeM: RT @TekaraInc: Its a competitive time. Learning is becoming a differentiator. And more importantly, business is seeing it. #lrnchat ~Well said @_Kavi
05:16:13 pm LnDDave: Q3) We’re also REALLY good at generating reports that no one looks at. ;-) #lrnchat
05:16:26 pm lesleywprice: RT @chrismaclaren: Q3) demonstrate high communication, presentation and facilitation skills <evidence??? #lrnchat
05:16:34 pm lesleywprice: RT @LnDDave: Q3) Were also REALLY good at generating reports that no one looks at. ;-) #lrnchat
05:16:41 pm PaFitzpatrick: RT @LnDDave: Q3) Project Management. #lrnchat > I would argue that in terms of elearning.  Lack of dev knowledge cripples projects
05:16:44 pm _Kavi: :) Oh yes they do. Or rather..they better! RT @lesleywprice: RT @_Kavi: Q3) L&D teams know pulse of the organisation. < if only :-( #lrnchat
05:16:59 pm JD_Dillon: @LnDDave – Agreed! Q3) We’re also REALLY good at generating reports that no one looks at. ;-) #lrnchat
05:17:02 pm wordwealthy: Q3) While great depts exist, my experience is most focus on baseline skills devt or training in management principles. #lrnchat
05:17:03 pm chrismaclaren: @aaronesilvers Agree – We often fail to prepare them for “what if?” rather than “what’s known”… #lrnchat
05:17:06 pm _Kavi: ha ha !! RT @LnDDave: Q3) We’re also REALLY good at generating reports that no one looks at. ;-) #lrnchat
05:17:07 pm lesleywprice: RT @LnDDave: Q3) Were also REALLY good at generating reports that no one looks at. ;-) < can we get a certificate for that? #lrnchat
05:17:20 pm C4LPT: RT @LnDDave: Q3) We’re also REALLY good at generating reports that no one looks at. ;-) #lrnchat
05:17:36 pm aaronesilvers: RT @C4LPT: RT @LnDDave: Q3) We’re also REALLY good at generating reports that no one looks at. ;-) #lrnchat
05:17:40 pm AndreaMay1: RT @sue_freeman1: #lrnchat We are VERY responsive to our customers! <–I all were like that, but sadly not the case.
05:17:47 pm alc47: Q3 Are these things really “good” in the learning context – I fear not #lrnchat
05:17:58 pm chrismaclaren: And happy sheets that show all were happy! RT @LnDDave: Q3) Were also REALLY good at generating reports that no one looks at. ;-) #lrnchat
05:18:27 pm MikeCollins007: Q3. We offer businesses peace of mind that ppl have been ‘trained’ and the box has been ticked #lrnchat
05:18:29 pm LnDDave: Q3) Building a bridge between the needs of the org and the desire of the individual. #lrnchat
05:18:36 pm wordwealthy: RT @aaronesilvers: Q3) What training doesn’t do is provide the “adaptive stance” people need to deal with the unknowns. >agree! #lrnchat
05:18:46 pm aaronesilvers: @chrismaclaren The thing is… you can’t *train* for “what if”; that requires experience. #lrnchat
05:18:48 pm dainadunlop: Q3) What we need to be really good at is chg behaviour and keeping it changed #lrnchat
05:18:51 pm amirelion: RT @LnDDave: Q3) Were also REALLY good at generating reports that no one looks at. ;-) < Only after advanced Excel course #lrnchat
05:18:57 pm gerdriesen: Q3) training dprts provide good (formal skills training, make pro’s more effective (keep fingers crossed on @JaneBozarth reaction) #lrnchat
05:18:59 pm chrisstjohn: Call for Presentations. June 5-7, 2012 Innovations in eLearning Symposium (DAU/GMU) goto ow.ly/1tqEf5 for keynotes/workshops #lrnchat
05:19:20 pm wordwealthy: RT @dainadunlop: Q3) What we need to be really good at is chg behaviour and keeping it changed #lrnchat
05:19:33 pm C4LPT: Q3) Well the lack of inspiring answers to this Q says it all for me #lrnchat
05:19:38 pm lesleywprice: q3) and numeracy/arithmetic..we can count courses and people that have been on them #lrnchat
05:19:48 pm gerdriesen: Saw today dogs can train people! ‚Äú@MikeCollins007: RT @lesleywprice RT @stipton: We train dogs, we develop people  #lrnchat >
05:19:57 pm dainadunlop: That’s funny but true RT @lesleywprice: q3) and numeracy/arithmetic..we can count courses and people that have been on them #lrnchat
05:19:59 pm lesleywprice: RT @C4LPT: Q3) Well the lack of inspiring answers to this Q says it all for me #lrnchat
05:20:33 pm chrismaclaren: @aaronesilvers Agree of course, but we need to shift the mindset of employees that think we do… #lrnchat
05:20:45 pm gerdriesen: ! “@aaronesilvers: Q3) Training is great for mechanics. Training is great for skills that make use of efficiency + effectiveness. #lrnchat”
05:20:51 pm AndreaMay1: @chrismaclaren The thing is… you can’t *train* for “what if” #lrnchat True, but u can teach strategies for dealing with what if
05:20:52 pm arossett: RT @nlkilkenny: Training & ID’s  seen as peripheral like IT. I worked at  an accountant conference. Bemoaned peripheral status too. #lrnchat
05:20:53 pm _Kavi: Q3) This question has got me thinking. Actually, ..’ouch’ … #lrnchat
05:21:10 pm lesleywprice: q3) we can count courses and people that have been on them < we can even tell you how much it cost…maybe #lrnchat
05:21:13 pm gerdriesen: ‚Äú@_Kavi: Q3) L&D teams know the pulse of the organisation.  #lrnchat‚Äù
05:22:02 pm JffZllr: I struggle w/ it too… RT @_Kavi: Q3) This question has got me thinking. Actually, ..’ouch’ .. #lrnchat
05:22:03 pm TheAirton: Q3) My main role is being the “Floor psychologist” #lrnchat
05:22:09 pm lrnchat: Q4) What do training departments try to do that they suck at? #lrnchat
05:22:15 pm tracydg1: RT @AndreaMay1: @chrismaclaren The thing is… you can’t *train* for “what if” #lrnchat True, but u can teach strategies for dealing with what if
05:22:22 pm AndreaMay1: RT @gerdriesen: Saw today dogs can train people! @MikeCollins007 @lesleywprice @stipton: #lrnchat > my dog has successfully trained me!
05:22:27 pm C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do training departments try to do that they suck at? #lrnchat
05:22:29 pm bschlenker: RT @C4LPT: Q3) Well the lack of inspiring answers to this Q says it all for me <doesn’t it though? wow!  #lrnchat
05:22:58 pm _Kavi: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do training departments try to do that they suck at? #lrnchat
05:22:59 pm amirelion: Q4) I feel a bashing coming on… #lrnchat
05:23:01 pm techherding: RT @LnDDave: Q3) We’re also REALLY good at generating reports that no one looks at. << AKA “Metrics That Don’t Matter” #lrnchat
05:23:02 pm PaFitzpatrick: Q3) What they shouldnt – try to be everything rather that focus on the key focus #lrnchat
05:23:08 pm bschlenker: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do training departments try to do that they suck at? <Prove Business value #lrnchat
05:23:10 pm AndreaMay1: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do training departments try to do that they suck at? #lrnchat
05:23:20 pm LnDDave: RT @C4LPT: Q3) Well the lack of inspiring answers to this Q says it all for me #lrnchat <<Exactly
05:23:34 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) We definitely suck at saying “No” sometimes … especially to internal client groups. #lrnchat
05:23:43 pm aaronesilvers: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do training departments try to do that they suck at? #lrnchat
05:23:51 pm dainadunlop: Q4) Actually change behaviour #lrnchat
05:23:54 pm _Kavi: RT @JD_Dillon: Q4) We definitely suck at saying “No” sometimes … especially to internal client groups. #lrnchat
05:24:07 pm JffZllr: Amen! RT @JD_Dillon: Q4) We definitely suck at saying “No” sometimes … especially to internal client groups. #lrnchat
05:24:12 pm amirelion: RT @JD_Dillon: Q4) We definitely suck at saying “No” sometimes … especially to internal client groups. << =lack of real focus #lrnchat
05:24:31 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do training departments try to do that they suck at? #lrnchat
05:25:05 pm _Kavi: Q4) forcefit ‘solutions’ which then turn out to be bigger problems ! #lrnchat
05:25:06 pm jzurovchak: Q4  #lrnchat  Demonstrate the link between performance improvement and our training and development efforts
05:25:08 pm aaronesilvers: My question: what behaviors are they trying to change? > RT @dainadunlop: Q4) Actually change behaviour #lrnchat
05:25:32 pm dainadunlop: Q4) Creating lean and focused improvement programs #lrnchat
05:25:36 pm LnDDave: Q4) While we’re skilled at facilitating change, we often suck at it in our own role. #lrnchat
05:25:38 pm aaronesilvers: Do they *try*? RT @jzurovchak: Q4  #lrnchat  Demonstrate the link between performance improvement and our training and development efforts
05:25:43 pm amirelion: We suck at stopping to chase after trivial things such as workshop sandwiches and thinking on what really matters #lrnchat
05:26:07 pm techherding: Q4) Teach their customers to fish, rather then just giving them fish. #lrnchat
05:26:07 pm jzurovchak: @aaronesilvers  #lrnchat  We try….and fail….
05:26:09 pm _Kavi: Q4)  Partnering with business and focussing on business needs. Not on capabilities of the training team ! #lrnchat
05:26:10 pm chrisstjohn: Q4: IT #lrnchat
05:26:27 pm AndreaMay1: Q4) Often they try to make the same solution work for  everything they do…definitely sucks #lrnchat
05:26:30 pm LnDDave: RT @techherding: Q4) Teach their customers to fish, rather then just giving them fish. #lrnchat
05:26:35 pm dainadunlop: That’s the 1st question to ask RT @aaronesilvers: My question: what behaviors are they trying to change? #lrnchat
05:26:44 pm HollyJustice1: Q4) Be $$$ generating. Evidence in work for SW company.Training for your SW products buys loyalty & support. It is not a cash cow.
#lrnchat
05:26:53 pm bschlenker: And on a side note:  I’d like to welcome anyone new to #lrnchat today!  Several new peeps to follow.  Welcome! #lrnchat
05:27:06 pm LnDDave: RT @bschlenker: And on a side note:  I’d like to welcome anyone new to #lrnchat today!  Several new peeps to follow.  Welcome! #lrnchat
05:27:09 pm AndreaMay1: Q4) Also suck at meaningful evaluation #lrnchat
05:27:13 pm alc47: Q4 Control learning either overtly or covertly #lrnchat
05:27:15 pm sue_freeman1: #lrnchat  Energizing workers — who don’t want to be energized.  We do all right with the willing…
05:27:29 pm jzurovchak: RT @AndreaMay1: Q4) suck at meaningful evaluation #lrnchat
05:27:30 pm _Kavi: Q4) Get lost in a world of PPTs, exercises, courses, tests and activities ! These are means. not ends ! #lrnchat
05:27:34 pm PaFitzpatrick: Q4) Terrible at evaluating the success of learning delivery, they go from project2project without proper analysis on what works #lrnchat
05:27:44 pm chrismaclaren: Q4) try and ‘own’ knowledge #lrnchat
05:27:44 pm aaronesilvers: RT @PaFitzpatrick: Q4) Terrible at evaluating the success of learning delivery, they go from project2project without proper analysis on what works #lrnchat
05:27:45 pm lesleywprice: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do training departments try to do that they suck at? #lrnchat
05:27:55 pm amirelion: @bschlenker Could join today as it’s holiday in Israel. 6:30 PM here. #lrnchat
05:28:02 pm LnDDave: Q4) Letting Go. #lrnchat
05:28:10 pm C4LPT: Q4)  T depts actually fail to help pple understand tht “learning”  – not just training – is the key to continuous improvement #lrnchat
05:28:14 pm _Kavi: RT @LnDDave: Q4) Letting Go. #lrnchat
05:28:20 pm aaronesilvers: RT @LnDDave: Q4) Letting Go. #lrnchat
05:28:25 pm lesleywprice: q4)assessment….when will they learn that assessment is not about testing? #lrnchat
05:28:26 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q4 training departments shouldn’t try to integrate humor into their courses because they’re not so good at it
05:28:45 pm bschlenker: RT @amirelion: @bschlenker Could join today as its holiday in Israel. 6:30 PM here. <Glad you’re here! Great input! #lrnchat
05:28:51 pm PaFitzpatrick: RT @C4LPT: Q4)  T depts actually fail to help pple understand tht “learning”  – not just training – is the key to continuous improvement #lrnchat
05:28:53 pm amirelion: Q4) Daring to ask difficult questions. #lrnchat
05:28:56 pm LnDDave: Q4) Moving away from an event-based model. #lrnchat
05:29:04 pm PaFitzpatrick: RT @urbie: #lrnchat Q4 training departments shouldn’t try to integrate humor into their courses because they’re not so good at it
05:29:11 pm arossett: q4] execution… following programs into work and life, seeding the workplace, assuring alignment, enabling indep lrng and ref.  #lrnchat
05:29:15 pm aaronesilvers: @LnDDave Do they even try? #lrnchat
05:29:16 pm bschlenker: RT @LnDDave: Q4) Letting Go. <Sometimes the simplest answers are the most profound #lrnchat
05:29:30 pm chrismaclaren: Q4) understand that learning is not about the deployment, but about the end change in behavior #lrnchat
05:29:37 pm AndreaMay1: Q4) Pushing back when the business says they need “training”…do they really? #lrnchat
05:29:49 pm _Kavi: Q4) The focus of learning is with the ‘learner’ !  A key enabler is the learners manager ! rope them in ! #lrnchat
05:29:54 pm amirelion: RT @urbie: Q4 training departments shouldnt try to integrate humor into their courses because theyre not so good at it < FUNNY! #lrnchat
05:29:55 pm techherding: +1 RT @AndreaMay1: Q4) Pushing back when the business says they need “training”…do they really? #lrnchat
05:30:02 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q4 an other thing that training departments aren’t so adept at is vetting educational technology before employing it
05:30:02 pm LnDDave: RT @aaronesilvers: @LnDDave Do they even try? #lrnchat < Some do, but not hard enough.
05:30:05 pm JffZllr: Great TED talk about buying a drill… don’t need drill, just the hole! @_Kavi These are means. not ends ! #lrnchat
05:30:26 pm jzurovchak: Q4) #lrnchat Getting a seat at the table with the C-level gang and being taken seriously…
05:30:29 pm 4KM: A4) Informal learning; Social learning ; Constructivist learning #lrnchat
05:30:42 pm C4LPT: Q4) They fail to realise that most of the real learning happens without them being involved at all #lrnchat
05:30:43 pm LnDDave: Q4) Moving things from the ‘Wish List’ to the ‘Action List’. #lrnchat
05:30:47 pm chrismaclaren: Q4) understanding how learning really happens within the org
#lrnchat
05:30:53 pm aaronesilvers: RT @C4LPT: Q4) They fail to realise that most of the real learning happens without them being involved at all #lrnchat
05:31:03 pm aaronesilvers: RT @chrismaclaren: Q4) understanding how learning really happens within the org
#lrnchat
05:31:04 pm LnDDave: RT @C4LPT: Q4) They fail to realise that most of the real learning happens without them being involved at all #lrnchat
05:31:05 pm stipton: So true! RT @C4LPT: Q4) They fail to realise that most of the real learning happens without them being involved at all #lrnchat
05:31:09 pm lesleywprice: RT @C4LPT: Q4) They fail to realise that most of the real learning happens without them being involved at all #lrnchat
05:31:13 pm AndreaMay1: RT @jzurovchak: Q4) #lrnchat Getting a seat at the table with the C-level gang and being taken seriously…< This is a CONSTANT challenge
05:31:18 pm HollyJustice1: #lrnchat Q4) What do training departments try to do that they suck at? These answers are making me sad! Core stuff we should do.
05:31:18 pm chrismaclaren: Yes!! RT @C4LPT: Q4) They fail to realise that most of the real learning happens without them being involved at all #lrnchat
05:31:34 pm _Kavi: Q4) Leveraging of social media tools for which, L&D needs to be familiar & comy with social media tools #lrnchat
05:31:42 pm amirelion: RT @AndreaMay1: Q4) Pushing back when the business says they need “training”…do they really? <<< SO TRUE #lrnchat
05:31:42 pm C4LPT: Q4) They fail to realise they can’t manage everything everyone learns in the organisation #lrnchat
05:31:45 pm 4KM: A4) Developing strong, meaningful relationships beyond their department boundaries #lrnchat
05:31:48 pm janenb: RT @AndreaMay1: Q4) Pushing back when the business says they need “training”…do they really? #lrnchat
05:31:48 pm jzurovchak: Q4)  Getting organization to understand what they REALLY do…#lrnchat
05:31:49 pm wordwealthy: Have to run but tnx for a great #lrnchat. Good to be back in the loop. Feel like Q5 for another time should be: How do we fix Q4?
05:32:11 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) Getting the big, game-changing initiatives approved/developed while not being distracted by short-term business requests. #lrnchat
05:32:12 pm alc47: RT @C4LPT: Q4)  T depts fail to help pple understand learningis the key to continuous improvement>so fail with their core mission #lrnchat
05:32:14 pm LnDDave: Q4) Doing what should be done rather than what’s always been done. #lrnchat
05:32:15 pm lesleywprice: q4)they fail to realise that they are their to improve business results and that does not always just = training #lrnchat
05:32:29 pm _Kavi: RT @HollyJustice1: #lrnchat Q4) What do training departments…they suck at? These answers are making me sad! Core stuff we should do.
05:32:38 pm tracydg1: #lrnchat Thanks for a great session.  Looking forward to next week.
05:32:59 pm arossett: q4] letting go– judiciously. I worry tht we throw our hands up about influence  at work. We must, without hyper managing #lrnchat
05:33:02 pm alc47: Q4 Fail to recognise their role is to help not manage #lrnchat
05:33:04 pm dainadunlop: Yes! RT @lesleywprice: q4)they fail to realise  they are there to improve business results and that does not always just = training #lrnchat
05:33:06 pm PaFitzpatrick: Q4) In some cases the believe learning should be a dictation, where they are frightened in exploration. #lrnchat
05:33:07 pm chrismaclaren: Q4) keep their focus on the wider business objective / need #lrnchat
05:33:11 pm LnDDave: RT @arossett: q4] letting go– judiciously. I worry tht we throw our hands up about influence  at work. We must, without hyper managing #lrnchat
05:33:22 pm techherding: RT @lesleywprice …and that does not always just = training #lrnchat << I’d venture that RARELY does “just training” increase business.
05:33:26 pm AndreaMay1: RT @LnDDave: Q4) Doing what should be done rather than what’s always been done. #lrnchat <–Here, here!
05:33:43 pm PaFitzpatrick: Q4) TD’s dont believe that they need to education and develop their own skills on what works for the learners #lrnchat
05:34:08 pm chrismaclaren: Q4) that they are a means to the end – their learning deployment is not the end itself!
#lrnchat
05:34:12 pm alc47: Q4 Fail in gaining respect of the business as people able to help improve performnace #lrnchat
05:34:16 pm 4KM: Once asked director of HR (where I was in employee & org development) about metrics. “Bums in seats of course.” #lrnchat
05:34:19 pm anicole87: RT @arossett: q4] letting go– judiciously. I worry tht we throw our hands up about influence  at work. We must, without hyper managing #lrnchat
05:34:24 pm bschlenker: RT @arossett: q4] execution… following programs into work and life, seeding the workplace, assuring alignment, enabling indep lrng and ref.  #lrnchat
05:34:27 pm C4LPT: Q1) They fail to realise that a LMS does NOT manage learning #lrnchat
05:34:36 pm sue_freeman1: #lrnchat And occasionally they want us to spin flax into gold… :)
05:34:42 pm 4KM: LOL RT @C4LPT: Q1) They fail to realise that a LMS does NOT manage learning #lrnchat
05:34:49 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) We kinda suck at devoting time/effort to developing our own team members. Clients aren’t the only learners. #lrnchat
05:34:57 pm JffZllr: 4) Gap between what we offer others and how we learn ourselves… #lrnchat
05:35:00 pm LnDDave: Q4) Looking at “What If?” as a question of possibilities instead of a question of risks. #lrnchat
05:35:10 pm techherding: Lovin’ it!  RT @C4LPT: Q1) They fail to realise that a LMS does NOT manage learning #lrnchat
05:35:12 pm dainadunlop: Got to go – thanks for the chat #lrnchat
05:35:28 pm LnDDave: RT @C4LPT: Q1) They fail to realise that a LMS does NOT manage learning #lrnchat < Or that you may not even need one.
05:35:34 pm _Kavi: RT @JD_Dillon: Q4) We kinda suck at devoting time/effort to developing our own team members. Clients aren’t the only learners. #lrnchat
05:35:35 pm chrismaclaren: Yep – eating our own dog food! RT @JD_Dillon: Q4) We kinda suck at devoting time/effort to developing our own team members. #lrnchat
05:35:43 pm alc47: Q4 Pursue LMS as a holy grail – when in fact it gets in the way of learning #lrnchat
05:36:02 pm bschlenker: RT @C4LPT: Q4) They fail to realise that most of the real learning happens without them being involved at all #lrnchat
05:36:02 pm _Kavi: Has huge ramifications! RT @alc47: Q4 Fail in gaining respect of the business as people able to help improve performnace #lrnchat
05:36:05 pm lrnchat: Q5) How can training departments stay relevant? #lrnchat
05:36:06 pm MikeCollins007: RT @AndreaMay1 RT @gerdriesen: Saw today dogs can train people! @MikeCollins007 @lesleywprice @stipton: #lrnchat > every dog has its day
05:36:16 pm jzurovchak: #lrnchat  Time for me to run….thanks for a very thought-provoking time today!
05:36:23 pm C4LPT: Q4) They fail to realise that most learning occurs in the workflow not in separate learning systems #lrnchat
05:36:24 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q4 one thing that training departments REALLY suck at is seeing what they do/contribute to an org. through the eyes of the customer
05:36:31 pm AndreaMay1: RT @JD_Dillon: Q4)suck at devoting effort to developing Rown team. Clients aren’t the only learners. #lrnchat <–U hit that nail on the head
05:36:32 pm _Kavi: RT @lrnchat: Q5) How can training departments stay relevant? #lrnchat
05:36:49 pm JD_Dillon: Q5) Stay relevant by partnering with learning professionals outside your company – what cool stuff are they doing? #lrnchat
05:36:51 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q5) How can training departments stay relevant? #lrnchat
05:36:52 pm chrismaclaren: RT @lrnchat: Q5) How can training departments stay relevant? #lrnchat
05:36:53 pm chrismaclaren: Q5) by staying close to the business
#lrnchat
05:37:00 pm professorjosh: Seeing what #lrnchat is all about right now – Guess I’ll need to play catch up – Pardon my tweets!
05:37:20 pm aaronesilvers: RT @lrnchat: Q5) How can training departments stay relevant? #lrnchat
05:37:45 pm alc47: Q5 The only way is by winning the confidence of business that they understand and have something to offer to help solve problems #lrnchat
05:37:47 pm AndreaMay1: RT @lrnchat: Q5) How can training departments stay relevant? #lrnchat
05:37:54 pm chrismaclaren: Q5) by focusing on developing their own skills and learning from other orgs #lrnchat
05:37:55 pm olliegardener: RT @alc47: Q4 Pursue LMS as a holy grail – when in fact it gets in the way of learning #lrnchat
05:37:55 pm JD_Dillon: Q5) Stay relevant by grabbing (not asking for) a seat at the table for key business decisions. #lrnchat
05:37:59 pm 4KM: A5 Insist on collaborative design work w senior management #lrnchat
05:38:04 pm LnDDave: Q5) Training Departments can stay relevant by swimming with the changing tide instead of against it. #lrnchat
05:38:05 pm lesleywprice: q4) fail to realise that they are not engaging with CEO’s http://t.co/DnHhSm23 only 18% of CEO’s think L & D add value #lrnchat
05:38:08 pm amirelion: Q5) Start asking the right questions re: performance and biz results #lrnchat
05:38:13 pm _Kavi: Q5) Stay focussed. Stay relevant. to performance and results ! #lrnchat
05:38:27 pm HollyJustice1: I agree.Look around like a newbie and see what’s up! RT@chrismaclaren Q4) understanding how learning really happens within the org #lrnchat
05:38:27 pm JD_Dillon: Q5) Stay relevant by suggesting your peers participant in #lrnchat! :-)
05:38:34 pm PaFitzpatrick: Q5) by  understanding how to deliver learning, knowledge, skills. How to get people and stake holder to embrace learning #lrnchat
05:38:34 pm _Kavi: Q5) back up arguments with research and data #lrnchat
05:38:45 pm alc47: @_Kavi Road to oblivion if it fails #lrnchat
05:38:52 pm 4KM: @techherding Small uncomfortable chairs could help too w numbers and speed of rotation #lrnchat
05:39:02 pm bschlenker: Here’s a little ointment after the beating: REGULATIONS will ALWAYS require prove of TRAINING. We do THAT very efficiently #lrnchat
05:39:06 pm lesleywprice: q5)talk business language…don’t use training L & D jargon or #buzzwords #lrnchat
05:39:17 pm chrismaclaren: Q5) by exploring, embracing and implementing latest trends, technologies and ideas #lrnchat
05:39:25 pm _Kavi: Q5) Speak to people. Listen to people. Its all about people. And therefore, learn their language ! #lrnchat
05:39:36 pm chrismaclaren: Essential! RT @lesleywprice: q5)talk business language…dont use training L & D jargon or #buzzwords #lrnchat
05:39:38 pm LnDDave: Q5) Eliminate the word ‘Training’ from your vocabulary. Language is powerful and can shift perspectives. #lrnchat
05:39:47 pm amirelion: Q5) build platforms and more opportunities for good learning to happen all around the org #lrnchat
05:39:53 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q5 training departments can stay relevant by being like Private Duffy in http://t.co/bAGCe0tp and working with the customer
05:40:09 pm alc47: @bschlenker Is that ointment deserved? #lrnchat
05:40:11 pm JD_Dillon: @LnDDave – Agreed! Like I said, I don’t do #training. I do #learning! #lrnchat
05:40:13 pm PaFitzpatrick: Q5) Dont fight: Social Learning, Games Technology or Mobile dev – these are their to help – embrace it #lrnchat
05:40:17 pm professorjosh: Q5) Find what users really need, make sure you are updating, provide a multitude of modes & get ahead of the norm #lrnchat
05:40:23 pm maranca: Q4) you train dogs and pple learn #lrnchat
05:40:26 pm C4LPT: Q5) By moving from “command and control” mentality to “encourage and engage” = very different approaches #lrnchat
05:40:38 pm chrismaclaren: Q5) Stop doing the airplane routine at beginning of formal learning – phones off, sit still, face front! #lrnchat
05:40:38 pm LnDDave: RT @C4LPT: Q5) By moving from “command and control” mentality to “encourage and engage” = very different approaches #lrnchat
05:40:56 pm _Kavi: Q5) embrace change and tchnology. These are enablers. besides, thats what new age learners are comfortable with #lrnchat
05:41:00 pm PaFitzpatrick: Q5) Take time to understand what the learner really wants/needs — dont assume one shoe fits all #lrnchat
05:41:06 pm _Kavi: RT @LnDDave: Q5) Eliminate the word ‘Training’ from your vocabulary. Language is powerful and can shift perspectives. #lrnchat
05:41:11 pm AndreaMay1: Q5) Shift focus from service provider to collaborator…use our knowledge to help business further their goals #lrnchat
05:41:27 pm lesleywprice: q5) There just seems to be such a proliferation of #buzzwords…even L & D people don’t understand them…#plainenglish please?? #lrnchat
05:41:33 pm chrismaclaren: RT @_Kavi: Q5) embrace change and tchnology. These are enablers. besides, thats what new age learners are comfortable with #lrnchat
05:41:51 pm techherding: @alc47 @bschlenker I’ve used Dr. Brent’s Magical Learning Salve, and I’m here to tell you it’s better than lard mixed with Tabasco! #lrnchat
05:41:55 pm _Kavi: Q5) Plan the work. Work the plan. Thats the best way to build reputation #lrnchat
05:42:02 pm alc47: Q5 Understand the difference between managing learning and leadership in learning #lrnchat
05:42:09 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q5 training departments can stay relevant by using words with fewer syllables when they talk about what they do to help an org.
05:42:12 pm 4KM: A5) Find ways to inspire decision makers about new ways of #learning. Make it source of pride; not item on to do list #lrnchat
05:42:13 pm LnDDave: Q5) Allocate a little more of ‘today’ to thinking and planning for tomorrow. #lrnchat
05:42:13 pm PaFitzpatrick: Q5) if you do elearning – do it right. Dont assume that rapid development is best – understand the learner, objective and need #lrnchat
05:42:27 pm chrismaclaren: Q5) Put greater focus on ongoing performance support, not initial deployment #lrnchat
05:42:35 pm ebase: RT @amirelion: Q3)  sometimes good t. dept. are able to put a shocking mirror in front of execs #lrnchat
05:42:47 pm olliegardener: q5) be creative, listen, support, enable, engage- b the catalyst for performance, learning and change – then get out of the way! #lrnchat
05:42:49 pm professorjosh: Q4) Training dept should not be the only trainers, figure out the team of people who will be best trainers on a topics & get buy in #lrnchat
05:43:01 pm C4LPT: Q5) Help individuals and teams work smarter (learning is a means to the end; not the end goal) #lrnchat
05:43:05 pm _Kavi: Q5)  The day, business folks take to learning roles, the team has evolved to a higher plane ! #lrnchat
05:43:06 pm ebase: RT @alc47: Q5 Understand the difference between managing learning and leadership in learning #lrnchat
05:43:09 pm olliegardener: RT @_Kavi: Q5) embrace change and tchnology. These are enablers. besides, thats what new age learners are comfortable with #lrnchat
05:43:10 pm 4KM: @alc47 Say more? #lrnchat
05:43:17 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q5 training departments can stay relevant by capturing stories from the trenches and making learning experiences from them
05:43:23 pm LnDDave: Q5) Want to shift towards a culture of continuous learning and development? Start with yourself. #lrnchat
05:43:29 pm _Kavi: RT @LnDDave: Q5) Want to shift towards a culture of continuous learning and development? Start with yourself. #lrnchat
05:43:36 pm aaronesilvers: RT @LnDDave: Q5) Want to shift towards a culture of continuous learning and development? Start with yourself. #lrnchat
05:43:36 pm olliegardener: RT @C4LPT: Q5) By moving from “command and control” mentality to “encourage and engage” = very different approaches #lrnchat
05:43:40 pm LnDDave: RT @C4LPT: Q5) Help individuals and teams work smarter (learning is a means to the end; not the end goal) #lrnchat
05:43:46 pm ebase: Q5) stay aligned with the priorities of the company #lrnchat
05:43:50 pm _Kavi: RT @urbie: #lrnchat Q5 training departments can stay relevant by capturing stories from the trenches & making learning experiences from them
05:43:52 pm alc47: Q5 Lock the office-get out into the business and learn what it is about – then look to see what can be done from learning to help #lrnchat
05:43:54 pm rickzanotti: RT @C4LPT: Q5) Help individuals and teams work smarter (learning is a means to the end; not the end goal) #lrnchat
05:44:12 pm ebase: Q5) reframe issues to reveal the learning need #lrnchat
05:44:19 pm HollyJustice1: Q5) Stay relevant by listening to grapevine. What do the employees say at lunch? Then tie dept needs and new tools to training. #lrnchat
05:44:26 pm _Kavi: Q5) Be regular at #lrnchat :)
05:44:26 pm C4LPT: RT @alc47: Q5 Lock the office-get out into the business and learn what it is about – then look to see what can be done to help #lrnchat
05:44:37 pm maranca: Q5) How can training departments stay relevant? #lrnchat – they can become a learner again…
05:44:37 pm techherding: As Patrick said, beware Rapid Development. I’ve never had a client show my work and say “Of course, he did this really fast.” #lrnchat
05:44:38 pm dbhasin: RT @4KM: A5) Find ways to inspire decision makers about new ways of #learning. Make it source of pride; not item on to do list #lrnchat
05:44:47 pm mpsavage: RT @aaronesilvers: Q1) I think 5yrs ago Training Depts. assumed they owned “learning.” Turns out everyone owns it. #lrnchat
05:44:49 pm _Kavi: RT @ebase: Q5) reframe issues to reveal the learning need #lrnchat
05:44:50 pm 4KM: A5) Consider severing ties btwn standard HR functions and learning functions. Attach latter to org executive #lrnchat
05:44:51 pm dbhasin: RT @_Kavi: RT @urbie: #lrnchat Q5 training departments can stay relevant by capturing stories from the trenches & making learning experiences from them
05:44:56 pm dbhasin: RT @lrnchat: Q5) How can training departments stay relevant? #lrnchat
05:45:04 pm dbhasin: RT @_Kavi: Has huge ramifications! RT @alc47: Q4 Fail in gaining respect of the business as people able to help improve performnace #lrnchat
05:45:07 pm alc47: RT @_Kavi: Q5) Be regular at #lrnchat :) Lol #lrnchat
05:45:07 pm dbhasin: RT @arossett: q4] letting go– judiciously. I worry tht we throw our hands up about influence  at work. We must, without hyper managing #lrnchat
05:45:11 pm AndreaMay1: Q5) Learning to effectively evaluate learning. #lrnchat
05:45:13 pm PaFitzpatrick: RT @techherding: As Patrick said, beware Rapid Development. I’ve never had a client show my work and say “Of course, he did this really fast.” #lrnchat
05:45:17 pm dbhasin: RT @_Kavi: bang on ! RT @LnDDave: Q3) Most Orgs respect the program, but do not realize what it took to build it. #lrnchat
05:45:22 pm dbhasin: RT @lesleywprice: RT @ReubenTozman: Have a great #lrnchat. My final thought: for train depts to be relevant they need to cease being a training dept #lrnchat
05:45:26 pm sue_freeman1: #lrnchat We need to be fearless.  Listen, find new, good stuff and move forward.  Not as easy as it sounds.
05:45:31 pm maranca: Great though! RT @LnDDave: Q5) Eliminate the word ‘Training’ from your vocabulary. Language is powerful and can shift perspectives. #lrnchat
05:45:33 pm professorjosh: Q2) Training dept should be the coordinators of training but use your resources as a company to train – empower the peeps involved! #lrnchat
05:45:37 pm dbhasin: RT @LnDDave: Q1) Training Dept influence is largely determined by the learning culture you are able to build within the org. #lrnchat
05:45:47 pm dbhasin: RT @stipton: My fav topic RT @lrnchat: Todays #lrnchat theme: Make Training Department Relevant. Join us at 11:30am ET/4:30pm BT or 8:30pm ET. #lrnchat
05:45:57 pm C4LPT: Q5) Observe how the “smart workers” in your org are already using the techs to support their own learning/performance #lrnchat
05:45:59 pm dbhasin: RT @pgsimoes: Best of EDEN 2010 Special Issue European Journal of #Open, Distance and #ELearning http://t.co/NABZFu7I #edtech #edchat #lrnchat #eadsunday
05:46:05 pm JD_Dillon: Q5) Do what is right for the learner regardless of other influences. #lrnchat
05:46:13 pm dbhasin: RT @marciamarcia: RT @lrnchat: If internal motivations are required for lasting change, why do educators & leader keep focusing on external ones? #lrnchat
05:46:13 pm _Kavi: Q5) What can be done, can be. What cant be, cant be. Dont promiese teh moon. You are not God ! #lrnchat
05:46:15 pm dbhasin: RT @marciamarcia: RT @Dave_Ferguson: [Kudos} originally referred to fame or glory, especially in battle... #lrnchat
05:46:22 pm dbhasin: RT @ExpertusONE: RT @lesleywprice RT @4KM: Friend once said "There is no end to what you can accomplish if you dont care who gets the credit" Like! #lrnchat
05:46:22 pm alc47: @LnDDave: Q5) Eliminate the word Training from your vocabulary. Language is powerful and can shift perspectives. #lrnchat
05:46:33 pm dbhasin: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What motivates you to learn something new? What could motivate you to change something you're resistant to changing? #lrnchat
05:46:41 pm PaFitzpatrick: Q5) Evaluate the impact of learning - if you get it wrong change it - if you get it right enhance it #lrnchat
05:46:47 pm dbhasin: RT @olliegardener: RT @chrisstjohn: RT @ebase: #Lrnchat recognition is public and reward is private.  Give me recognition over reward any day #lrnchat
05:46:57 pm dbhasin: RT @megbertapelle: RT @ckagy: #lrnchat recognition = admiration, awareness.  reward = receiving something tangible << Reward can be intangible too #lrnchat
05:46:59 pm 4KM: A5) Determine [few] places where training is needed. Put much more focus on learning #lrnchat
05:47:03 pm C4LPT: Q5) Stop talking about “learners” but refer them as people or workers  – then u wll begin to think differently #lrnchat
05:47:03 pm HollyJustice1: We all like good stories! RT @_Kavi @urbie: #lrnchat Q5) … capturing stories from the trenches & making learning experiences from them
05:47:12 pm _Kavi: RT @C4LPT: Q5) Stop talking about “learners” but refer them as people or workers  – then u wll begin to think differently #lrnchat
05:47:13 pm LnDDave: Q5) Relevance requires an awareness of what’s going on around you.   Participate in communities to stay up to date. #lrnchat
05:47:32 pm professorjosh: Evaluation & Redesign is important! RT @andreamay1: Q5) Learning to effectively evaluate learning. #lrnchat
05:48:05 pm _Kavi: Q5) learning is fun. And fun is infectious. Keep it that way. #lrnchat
05:48:06 pm techherding: Q5) Validate your plans, content and output with the learners. Impressing your client is nice, but if learners like it, you win. #lrnchat
05:48:07 pm glennojr: RT @C4LPT: Q5) Stop talking about “learners” but refer them as people or workers  – then u wll begin to think differently #lrnchat
05:48:38 pm 4KM: A5) Don’t think “staying relevant.” Think big attitude shift; treat as major, mulit-pronged change initiative #lrnchat
05:48:43 pm olliegardener: q5) recognise the unpredictability of business. Don’t expect to keep up – your job is to enable others 2 do so! #lrnchat
05:48:46 pm professorjosh: Sometimes you don’t need to reinvent the wheel but other times you need to make the wheel from scratch #lrnchat
05:49:03 pm C4LPT: Q5) I’m still hearing too many training focused response to this Q here  – need to think outside of training #lrnchat
05:49:06 pm chrismaclaren: Q5) Recognize that it is all about helping people work smarter (stolen from @C4LPT and ITA!). Makes everything much simpler. #lrnchat
05:49:08 pm ajeanne: RT @professorjosh: Sometimes you don’t need to reinvent the wheel but other times you need to make the wheel from scratch #lrnchat
05:49:15 pm _Kavi: Q5) One size fits one. Period. #lrnchat
05:49:34 pm 4KM: @C4LPT Not from me ;-) Quite agree with you. #lrnchat
05:49:37 pm olliegardener: RT @_Kavi: Q5) One size fits one. Period. #lrnchat
05:49:58 pm simbeckhampson: RT @LnDDave: Q5) Eliminate the word ‘Training’ from your vocabulary. Language is powerful and can shift perspectives. #lrnchat
05:50:00 pm C4LPT: @4KM :) #lrnchat
05:50:07 pm lttlewys: RT @4km: A5) Don’t think “staying relevant.” Think big attitude shift; treat as major, mulit-pronged change initiative #lrnchat
05:50:09 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome. #lrnchat
05:50:15 pm professorjosh: Empower others in the organization to teach something, best way to master something & use your internal resources #lrnchat
05:50:26 pm C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome. #lrnchat
05:50:27 pm 4KM: Saw a huge list of “all learning hashtags” somewhere the other day. HUGE focus on training and formal learning #lrnchat
05:50:33 pm _Kavi: RT @professorjosh: Empower others in the organization to teach something, best way to master something & use your internal resources #lrnchat
05:50:33 pm lesleywprice: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome. #lrnchat
05:50:56 pm chrismaclaren: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome. #lrnchat
05:51:23 pm glennojr: RT @kelly_smith01: How many of us were with the same organization as 5 yrs ago – Does that organization (or even industry) still exist? #lrnchat
05:51:23 pm AndreaMay1: Qwrap) Andrea May in Minneapolis. VP Instr. Design Services @dashethomson  Visit the Social learning blog http://www.dashe.com/blog #lrnchat
05:51:28 pm alc47: RT @olliegardener: q5) recognise the unpredictability of business. Dont expect to keep up – your job is to enable others 2 do so! #lrnchat
05:51:31 pm glennojr: RT @C4LPT: RT @StephenCHudson: q1) social media (lrng) and collab platforms (sharepoint) have democratized learning. I see influence waining #lrnchat
05:51:32 pm dbhasin: RT @ajeanne: RT @professorjosh: Sometimes you don’t need to reinvent the wheel but other times you need to make the wheel from scratch #lrnchat
05:51:35 pm dbhasin: RT @chrismaclaren: Q5) Recognize that it is all about helping people work smarter (stolen from @C4LPT and ITA!). Makes everything much simpler. #lrnchat
05:51:36 pm glennojr: RT @C4LPT: Q1) They probably like to think they do; but the reality is more and more pple are working around them #lrnchat
05:51:38 pm simbeckhampson: RT @professorjosh: Empower others in the organization to teach something, best way to master something & use your internal resources #lrnchat
05:51:40 pm amirelion: Amir Elion. Director of Learning Solutions at @kineoisrael please join Herbew #lrnisr next session on Nov. 8 #lrnchat
05:51:40 pm C4LPT: Qwrap) Jane Hart still in SoCal See my emerging bk NEW Workplace Learning:How to help individuals work smarter http://t.co/kJ04fg3K #lrnchat
05:51:42 pm dbhasin: RT @_Kavi: Q5) learning is fun. And fun is infectious. Keep it that way. #lrnchat
05:51:50 pm dbhasin: RT @4KM: A5) Don’t think “staying relevant.” Think big attitude shift; treat as major, mulit-pronged change initiative #lrnchat
05:51:56 pm dbhasin: RT @olliegardener: q5) recognise the unpredictability of business. Don’t expect to keep up – your job is to enable others 2 do so! #lrnchat
05:51:56 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q5 training depts can stay relevant by getting that customers are usually in dark about how/what they do (and who does what)
05:51:58 pm PaFitzpatrick: QWrap) Patrick Fitzpatrick MD  @PTKLearning eLearning Innovators from Sheffield UK: Please follow  @PaFitzpatrick and @PTKLearning #lrnchat
05:52:00 pm lesleywprice: qwrap) Lesley Price…interested in any evidence of really effective implementation…I’m keen to learn :-) #lrnchat
05:52:02 pm dbhasin: RT @C4LPT: Q5) I’m still hearing too many training focused response to this Q here  – need to think outside of training #lrnchat
05:52:06 pm professorjosh: Josh – Valencia College – Instructional Designer, Professor, & Blogger http://t.co/wBF4nLi3 Excite, Engage, Educate! #lrnchat
05:52:12 pm dbhasin: RT @4KM: A5) Determine [few] places where training is needed. Put much more focus on learning #lrnchat
05:52:13 pm 4KM: Qwrap: belated hello. Alice MacGillivray: Among other things, I love to create deliberately under-designed learning environments #lrnchat
05:52:13 pm LnDDave: QWrap) David Kelly, from NYC.  Thanks for another great #lrnchat!
05:52:16 pm dbhasin: RT @PaFitzpatrick: Q5) Evaluate the impact of learning – if you get it wrong change it – if you get it right enhance it #lrnchat
05:52:20 pm MMaryMcKenna: @billcush @Mindflash Good blog Bill, I’ve posted up a comment on there #lrnchat (@LearningPool) #lms #elearning
05:52:23 pm dbhasin: RT @alc47: @LnDDave: Q5) Eliminate the word Training from your vocabulary. Language is powerful and can shift perspectives. #lrnchat
05:52:30 pm dbhasin: RT @_Kavi: Q5) What can be done, can be. What cant be, cant be. Dont promiese teh moon. You are not God ! #lrnchat
05:52:32 pm dbhasin: RT @JD_Dillon: Q5) Do what is right for the learner regardless of other influences. #lrnchat
05:52:37 pm JD_Dillon: Qwrap) Great sharing today in #lrnchat! Keep the discussion going 24/7 and remember that learning is the only path to change! @JD_Dillon
05:52:43 pm dbhasin: RT @4KM: A5) Consider severing ties btwn standard HR functions and learning functions. Attach latter to org executive #lrnchat
05:52:49 pm amirelion: Qwrap) my blog (mostly Hebrew) – http://t.co/r4DICDbw #lrnchat
05:52:54 pm dbhasin: RT @C4LPT: RT @alc47: Q5 Lock the office-get out into the business and learn what it is about – then look to see what can be done to help #lrnchat
05:52:58 pm dbhasin: RT @maranca: Q5) How can training departments stay relevant? #lrnchat – they can become a learner again…
05:53:35 pm chrismaclaren: Chris Maclaren – looking to provide presentation design support – from slide design to storytelling. Shout to find out more!! #lrnchat
05:53:44 pm urbie: #lrnchat qwrap urbie delgado, instructional/learning experience designer & storyteller late of New Mexico .. http://t.co/kUCk7xGL
05:53:46 pm dbhasin: RT @JD_Dillon: Qwrap) Great sharing today in #lrnchat! Keep the discussion going 24/7 and remember that learning is the only path to change! @JD_Dillon
05:53:47 pm alc47: Qwrap. Nic Laycock – heavily into what makes virtual communities places wher people wnat to be and learn http://t.co/LGsk4xTN #lrnchat
05:53:54 pm lesleywprice: qwrap) tks for another great session tweeps…really enjoyed it…in the words of ‘Poirot’ keeps the old grey cells active :-) #lrnchat
05:53:55 pm dbhasin: RT @MMaryMcKenna: @billcush @Mindflash Good blog Bill, I’ve posted up a comment on there #lrnchat (@LearningPool) #lms #elearning
05:53:56 pm techherding: Dick Carlson — SC PugDaddy, E-Learning Designer and Sage — I’ve been thrown out of MUCH nicer places than this! #lrnchat
05:54:05 pm dbhasin: RT @chrismaclaren: Chris Maclaren – looking to provide presentation design support – from slide design to storytelling. Shout to find out more!! #lrnchat
05:54:17 pm dbhasin: RT @4KM: Qwrap: belated hello. Alice MacGillivray: Among other things, I love to create deliberately under-designed learning environments #lrnchat
05:54:21 pm dbhasin: RT @professorjosh: Josh – Valencia College – Instructional Designer, Professor, & Blogger http://t.co/wBF4nLi3 Excite, Engage, Educate! #lrnchat
05:54:28 pm dbhasin: RT @LnDDave: QWrap) David Kelly, from NYC.  Thanks for another great #lrnchat!
05:54:30 pm chrismaclaren: Thank you all for sharing your thoughts, ideas and experiences!! #lrnchat
05:54:34 pm dbhasin: RT @lesleywprice: qwrap) Lesley Price…interested in any evidence of really effective implementation…I’m keen to learn :-) #lrnchat
05:54:43 pm dbhasin: RT @4KM: Saw a huge list of “all learning hashtags” somewhere the other day. HUGE focus on training and formal learning #lrnchat
05:54:48 pm dbhasin: RT @AndreaMay1: Qwrap) Andrea May in Minneapolis. VP Instr. Design Services @dashethomson  Visit the Social learning blog http://www.dashe.com/blog #lrnchat
05:54:53 pm dbhasin: RT @professorjosh: Empower others in the organization to teach something, best way to master something & use your internal resources #lrnchat
05:54:56 pm olliegardener: Qwrap) Ollie Gardener. Entrepreneur & co-founder of NoddlePod. Seen our brand new concept cartoon? http://t.co/RJqyeDM5 :) #lrnchat
05:55:00 pm dbhasin: RT @lttlewys: RT @4km: A5) Don’t think “staying relevant.” Think big attitude shift; treat as major, mulit-pronged change initiative #lrnchat
05:55:15 pm dbhasin: RT @chrismaclaren: Thank you all for sharing your thoughts, ideas and experiences!! #lrnchat
05:55:18 pm dbhasin: RT @lesleywprice: qwrap) tks for another great session tweeps…really enjoyed it…in the words of ‘Poirot’ keeps the old grey cells active :-) #lrnchat
05:55:20 pm amirelion: QWrap – Enjoyed today chat. All that want a free copy of my 100 Creative Presetation Ideas e-book plz. contact me #lrnchat
05:55:41 pm _Kavi: QWrap) Kavi, Mumbai.  Head L&D.  Having fun changing a few things, putting in place a few others & persisting with the rest #lrnchat
05:56:18 pm _Kavi: QWrap) Awesome chat today ! Has left me thinking !! Thank you for all teh wonderful exchanges on #lrnchat
05:57:05 pm lindseyb16: #lrnchat important for 1:1 instructor interaction as any participation is difficult for the risk averse learner http://t.co/EBqalEL6
05:57:09 pm alc47: @dbhasin Thought they were “little” grey cells – off now to eat some fish! #lrnchat
05:57:39 pm PaFitzpatrick: good #lrnchat this week – until next time
05:58:05 pm maranca: Me …RT@amirelion:QWrap Enjoyed today chat. All that want a free copy of my 100 Creative Presentation Ideas e-book plz. contact me #lrnchat
05:58:19 pm AndreaMay1: Thanks for another awesome #lrnchat!  Have a great week :-)
05:58:36 pm HollyJustice1: Goodbye to #lrnchat from Holly in Portland OR  Connecting others to knowledge is my passion. Job hunting and tackling new challenges daily!
05:58:48 pm amirelion: @maranca Will send #lrnchat
05:59:05 pm ebase: RT @olliegardener: Qwrap) Ollie Gardener. Entrepreneur & co-founder of NoddlePod. Seen our brand new concept cartoon? http://t.co/RJqyeDM5 :) #lrnchat
05:59:11 pm Tracy_Parish: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @tmiket: How to create a memorable mini-scenario #articulate #lrnchat http://t.co/B0g8R83f
05:59:12 pm lrnchat: Thanks for joining #lrnchat. We’ll post the transcript on http://t.co/O8x38OGR See you again next Thursday.
05:59:22 pm maranca: QWrap) Great chat today ! 1st time I’ve been able to participate Thank you  all!  #lrnchat
06:00:12 pm ISD20: Tx 4 RT @medikly: Interesting! RT @isd20: What Facebook is teaching us about social LMS http://t.co/cbRjG7lD #lrnchat #sociallearning
06:00:12 pm _Kavi: @olliegardener @HollyJustice1 @alc47 @chrismaclaren @4KM @JffZllr @gerdriesen @lesleywprice Thanks to wonderful fellow learners ! #lrnchat
06:00:52 pm Spongelab: In bubble-rafting snails, the eggs came first http://t.co/r9bZZ1VK #edtech #edchat #lrnchat #scichat #gbl
06:01:13 pm _Kavi: @lesleywprice @TekaraInc @ThePrezenter @tracydg1 Thanks for the wonderful RTs and partnering in the learning !! #lrnchat
06:02:51 pm maranca: Qwrap- MaryAnne – currently job hunting worldwide- Love challenges of starting from scratch! Thx for the learning today! #lrnchat
06:03:09 pm OpenSesameNow: @lesleywprice Another Poirot enthusiast!! I have literally read every Poirot novel. Delicious mysteries! #lrnchat
06:03:20 pm 4KM: @dbhasin Thank you for connecting through your #lrnchat RTs today; always interesting to see what you find valuable.
06:04:58 pm kkapp: Games Influencing Politics: Herman Cain 999 Plan: Did It Come From SimCity? http://t.co/6MkXf3Ot #games #simulations #lrnchat #astd #edchat

Transcript 6 October 2011(Late)

October 7, 2011

08:31:08 pm lrnchat: Welcome to #lrnchat! How have you been?
08:31:24 pm lrnchat: Rule 1 for #lrnchat: Introduce yourself. Where are you based? Focus? Favorite topics? What brings you here?
08:31:48 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Welcome to #lrnchat! How have you been? | & we’re off #lrnchat
08:32:31 pm lrnchat: Rule 2. Stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 15 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
08:33:30 pm MMTingley: Tweet blast for the next 90 minutes. TIme for
#lrnchat
08:33:35 pm lrnchat: Rule 3. When tweeting your response, complete thoughts help followers outside #lrnchat learn from you.
08:33:39 pm kelly_smith01: I know I am feeling better than TweetDeck is performing. #lrnchat
08:33:47 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman – eLearning Designer, maker of job aids 2day, at Johns Hopkins Healthcare in Baltimore. #lrnchat
08:34:22 pm Quinnovator: welcome to new and returning #lrnchat participants, looking forward to another great session
08:34:26 pm lrnchat: Rule 4: Remember to include #lrnchat in all posts. http://t.co/3Chbdd9N http://t.co/iiHBQBVP & http://twubs.com automate that.
08:34:55 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, learning experience design strategist extraordinaire, author/speaker/consultant, genial malcontent, Walnut Creek CA #lrnchat
08:35:22 pm TheAirton: Aloha All, Airton, from the Mickey Mouse Kingdom, bad eyes can’t focus, #SocialMedia #eLearning #training, Words w/ Friends ppl #lrnchat
08:36:05 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith – freelancing for now and for…. North Texas  #lrnchat
08:36:08 pm odguru: RT @MMTingley: Tweet blast for the next 90 minutes. TIme for
#lrnchat
08:36:25 pm TheAirton: #HootSuite convert RT @kelly_smith01: I know I am feeling better than TweetDeck is performing. #lrnchat
08:36:26 pm lrnchat: Rule 6. On #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm & irony welcome, though. Seriously, but not too serious.
08:37:05 pm stevier: Stevie Rocco, senior learning designer, Penn State University. We are! #lrnchat
08:37:30 pm lrnchat: Rule 7. Before we end #lrnchat, reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too.
08:38:26 pm Quinnovator: There is no Rule 8. Rule 9:  don’t forget the Official #lrnchat Drinking Game‚Ñ¢ http://t.co/VeuihVpN (drinks ready?)
08:38:31 pm lrnchat: Q0) Time for the #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? What have you learned this week?
08:38:42 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q0) Time for the #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? What have you learned this week?
08:38:42 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat intro> David Glow, Tampa, FL. On cough meds- excuse typos and crazy thoughts.
08:38:49 pm TriciaRansom: Its Thursday, so that means for next 90 minutes an AVALANCHE of learning and development tweets coming to you from #lrnchat! #lrnchat
08:38:53 pm CongresoUNAD: RT @Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, learning experience design strategist extraordinaire, author/speaker/consultant, genial malcontent, Walnut Creek CA #lrnchat
08:39:12 pm KoreenOlbrish: <– west of Philly, you can’t stop me (can only hope to contain me), a little Joan, a little Danaerys, a little Lisbeth #lrnchat
08:39:14 pm kellygarber: <– instructional designer, Florida – good evening all
#lrnchat
08:39:26 pm TriciaRansom: This is Tricia in chicago in her “home office”…really a closet. But hey, it works! #lrnchat
08:39:37 pm Love2LearnAJS: @lrnchat  #lrnchat  I learned a lot about Steve Jobs contribution to technology in the last 24 hours and the personal obstacles he overcame.
08:39:39 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q0) Time for the #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? What have you learned this week? #lrnchat
08:39:45 pm stevier: Q0) I’ve learned that rolling with the punches is sometimes the best you can do. And it feels okay to let go, sometimes. #lrnchat
08:39:57 pm criticallearner: Q0) #lrnchat This wk I learned my wife saying “I want to do something mindless” is not a mating call (always had a hunch)
08:40:05 pm Quinnovator: q0) learned that someone iconic can move people to deep emotion #lrnchat RIP Steve
08:40:05 pm dbolen: Don Bolen, ATL, PM, learning designer #lrnchat
08:40:16 pm ronindotca: Waves at #lrnchat! Off to the gym shortly but just wanted to say hi. Hi. (Christchurch at Lincoln University)
08:40:24 pm TriciaRansom: Q0) Learned that I look for learning moments just so I can answer this question every week. When you look for learning, you grow! #lrnchat
08:40:41 pm Love2LearnAJS: @lrnchat  #lrnchat   I also read a great article on HTML5 that will help me get my captivate projects onto my Ipad…eventutally
08:40:45 pm stevier: RT @TriciaRansom: Q0) Learned that I look for learning moments just so I can answer this question every week. When you look for learning, you grow! #lrnchat
08:41:02 pm TriciaRansom: @ronindotca *waving wildly* Hi! #lrnchat
08:41:39 pm Quinnovator: q0) learned that it’d been too long since I’ve gone out to see comedy #lrnchat
08:41:47 pm TriciaRansom: Q0) Of course, I can never remember my learning moments by the time Thursday gets here, but hey, that’s ok, right? #lrnchat
08:42:07 pm MMTingley: Melissa Tingley eLearning ID and general edu-geek, Boston.
#lrnchat
08:42:34 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q0. Today I learned things can always get worse, I can handle whatever gets thrown at me & my kiddos are awesome dinner dates #lrnchat
08:42:36 pm Quinnovator: q0) learned that I’m too shy to be a great socializer, but happily ride on the backs of those who are (thanks @JaneBozarth ) #lrnchat
08:42:50 pm edwsonoma: #lrnchat ellen wagner learning tech analyst sonoma CA is doing a drive by
08:43:16 pm TriciaRansom: me 2! RT @Quinnovator: q0) learned Im too shy to be great socializer but happily ride on the backs of those who are (@JaneBozarth ) #lrnchat
08:43:36 pm odguru: Q0) Learned for the 475,689th time today to listen to that little voice inside me. #lrnchat
08:43:52 pm Quinnovator: @KoreenOlbrish didn’t recognize you in your new avatar! #lrnchat
08:44:02 pm TriciaRansom: Q0) Learned that I do a pretty good job of hiding my shyness/fear of meeting strangers. Gets easier the more I do it. #lrnchat
08:44:03 pm stevier: Q0) I learned to say, “Not my pig, not my farm” for things I shouldn’t really be wasting energy on. #lrnchat
08:44:17 pm edupdater: RT @Spongelab: BBC News – Nobel win for crystal discovery http://ow.ly/6PPHn #edchat #lrnchat #scichat #gbl #cdned #edtech
08:44:27 pm Quinnovator: RT @stevier: Q0) I learned to say, “Not my pig, not my farm” for things I shouldn’t really be wasting energy on. #lrnchat < like that ;)
08:44:46 pm kellygarber: RT @stevier: Q0) I learned to say, “Not my pig, not my farm” for things I shouldnt really be wasting energy on. #lrnchat
08:45:04 pm minutebio: RT @stevier: learned to say, “Not my pig, not my farm” for things I shouldnt really be wasting energy on. | I Need 2 borrow that #lrnchat
08:45:10 pm lrnchat: Q1) What do you believe is the difference between recognition & rewards? Do you personally prefer one over the other? #lrnchat
08:45:18 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What do you believe is the difference between recognition & rewards? Do you personally prefer one over the other? #lrnchat
08:45:27 pm MMTingley: Q0) Learned that I may not be an engineer, but btw Jobs, Jive training, and iPhone/Siri, I’m still very much a tech geek this wk.  #lrnchat
08:45:28 pm stevier: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What do you believe is the difference between recognition & rewards? Do you personally prefer one over the other? #lrnchat
08:45:29 pm odguru: RT @stevier: Q0) I learned to say, “Not my pig, not my farm” for things I shouldn’t really be wasting energy on. #lrnchat
08:45:29 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What do you believe is the difference between recognition & rewards? Do you personally prefer one over the other? #lrnchat
08:45:34 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What do you believe is the difference between recognition & rewards? Do you personally prefer one over the other? #lrnchat
08:45:37 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) What do you believe is the difference between recognition & rewards? Do you personally prefer one over the other? #lrnchat
08:46:06 pm Quinnovator: q1) recognition is people looking at you, rewards are things given you #lrnchat
08:46:09 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) for me, being recognized is a reward. Unless I’m being recognized for something bad…then it’s more of a punishment… #lrnchat
08:46:16 pm stevier: Q1) Recognition is acknowledgment. Rewards are tangible. Of the two, I find recognition (or even “thank you”) more inspiring. #lrnchat
08:46:23 pm minutebio: Q1) I prefer recognition, but an occasional reward is OK 2 #lrnchat
08:46:30 pm odguru: Q1) Reco is often frequent; rewards are markers #lrnchat
08:46:32 pm Quinnovator: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) being recognized is a reward. Unless I’m being recognized for something bad…then it’s more of a punishment #lrnchat
08:47:10 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) Dont get me wrong, I’ll take a reward, especially monetary, but I get the “warm fuzzy” from being recognized. #lrnchat
08:47:14 pm KoreenOlbrish: @Quinnovator I’m back to the less anime version :) #lrnchat
08:47:15 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What do you believe is the difference between recognition & rewards? Do you personally prefer one over the other? #lrnchat
08:47:23 pm sllacera: Q0) I learned that some people believe in me more than I believe in myself. This simply pushed me to just do it. #lrnchat
08:47:24 pm kellygarber: Q1: recognition includes your peers hearing of your deed, reward is a token for your efforts. #lrnchat
08:47:28 pm Love2LearnAJS: @lrnchat    #lrnchat  Q0) I’m learning the value of Skype, although I realize  I’m late on my discovery compared to the rest of the world
08:47:31 pm Quinnovator: q1) prefer recognition unless my base needs aren’t being met, then may *need* rewards (not a good thing) #lrnchat
08:47:34 pm JaneBozarth: Traveling & hard to #lrnchat  by phone but hope everyone’s happy & well.
08:47:49 pm kelly_smith01: Recognition is for measurable accomplishment and public acknowledgment of that accomplishment. #lrnchat
08:47:58 pm TriciaRansom: @JaneBozarth Happy as clams, we are. #lrnchat
08:48:06 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth another drive by: join @edwsonoma in the bangers club #lrnchat
08:48:17 pm KoreenOlbrish: lol, awesome :) ‚Äú@stevier: Q0) I learned to say, “Not my pig, not my farm” for things I shouldn’t really be wasting energy on. #lrnchat‚Äù
08:48:25 pm jjthfuture: @stevier  #lrnchat  I’m stealing that quote!  Awesome
08:48:27 pm mizminh: @lrnchat recognition can be very rewarding #lrnchat
08:49:14 pm KoreenOlbrish: same ‚Äú@Quinnovator: q1) prefer recognition unless my base needs aren’t being met, then may *need* rewards (not a good thing) #lrnchat
08:49:30 pm TriciaRansom: Instruction book-Really? RT @JaneBozarth: My award for 20 yrs of service. Came w/ instruction booklet. #lrnchat twitpic.com/6w1beh #lrnchat
08:49:35 pm jjthfuture: @lrnchat:  #lrnchat   Q1) External rewards come and go…recognition builds self-esteem and encourages me to work harder
08:49:36 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat Q1> Recognition is public acknowldgement. Reward (done right) is meaningful thanks.
08:49:37 pm stevier: RT @KoreenOlbrish: same ‚Äú@Quinnovator: q1) prefer recognition unless my base needs aren’t being met, then may *need* rewards (not a good thing) #lrnchat
08:49:51 pm dbolen: q1 recognition, then you know that you made a difference. Reward can be too easy, order out of catalog #lrnchat
08:49:54 pm sllacera: RT @mizminh: @lrnchat recognition can be very rewarding #lrnchat
08:50:03 pm Quinnovator: q1)  being RT’d is great recognition :) #lrnchat
08:50:07 pm stevier: Q1) Reminds me of Alfie Kohn’s book called Punished by Rewards… #lrnchat
08:50:14 pm minutebio: RT @jjthfuture:  External rewards come and go…recognition builds self-esteem and encourages me to work harder #lrnchat
08:50:28 pm sllacera: Q1) I prefer recognition since my love language is “words of affirmation” #lrnchat
08:50:30 pm minutebio: RT @Quinnovator: q1)  being RTd is great recognition :) #lrnchat
08:50:48 pm TriciaRansom: @quinnovator I’d say you have bigger problems than rewards/recognition if don’t have base needs. #lrnchat
08:50:58 pm criticallearner: RT @minutebio: RT @Quinnovator: q1)  being RTd is great recognition :) #lrnchat
08:51:07 pm Quinnovator: q1) for an odd synchronicity (I hadn’t known #lrnchat topic in advance) blogged today about motivation: http://t.co/5EvHK5aI (fyi)
08:51:09 pm JaneBozarth: My award for 20 years of service. Came w instruction booklet. http://t.co/UiwfMbXU #lrnchat
08:51:28 pm TriciaRansom: @quinnovator forgot my smiley to you on last tweet  #lrnchat
08:51:35 pm JaneBozarth: @TriciaRansom yes #lrnchat
08:51:47 pm Quinnovator: @TriciaRansom agreed, but compare US to Australia: in US don’t make living wage, *need* tips, for example #lrnchat
08:51:48 pm odguru: @JaneBozarth did you feel very valued and esteemed by this globe? #lrnchat
08:51:56 pm kelly_smith01: @JaneBozarth Was instruction book for spinning or for geography? #lrnchat
08:52:05 pm rjpanetti: Sorry I’m late…hwy was jammed with broken heroes on a last chance power power drive… #lrnchat
08:52:19 pm kellygarber: Q1: recognition is the nod that keeps giving, rewards are forgotten soon as the party is over
#lrnchat
08:52:25 pm TriciaRansom: Instruction = spin? RT @JaneBozarth: My award for 20 years of service. Came w instruction booklet. http://t.co/ava7V9Yd #lrnchat
08:52:30 pm stevier: RT @TriciaRansom: Instruction = spin? RT @JaneBozarth: My award for 20 years of service. Came w instruction booklet. http://t.co/ava7V9Yd #lrnchat
08:52:42 pm Quinnovator: @rjpanetti glad you made out on the road tonite #lrnchat
08:52:57 pm Love2LearnAJS: @lrnchat  #lrnchat   was responding under personal instead of prof…sorry…not jjthfuture, should be Love2LearnAJS
08:53:03 pm stevier: RT @rjpanetti: Sorry I’m late…hwy was jammed with broken heroes on a last chance power power drive… #lrnchat <–Awesome
08:53:15 pm JaneBozarth: A former boss excused high performers from performance reviews & status reports. THAT was my favorite recognition ever. #lrnchat
08:53:59 pm kellygarber: @JaneBozarth did it come with a “you are here” sticker? #lrnchat
08:54:10 pm TriciaRansom: SWEET! RT @JaneBozarth: former boss excused high performers from perf reviews & status reports. THAT was my fave recognition ever. #lrnchat
08:54:27 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth love the irony: how know high performers to excuse if don’t do reviews? #lrnchat
08:54:32 pm rjpanetti: @Quinnovator …there was no place left to hide…thanks Clark! #lrnchat
08:54:33 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat Q1> Best reward is generally being given the full trust and confidence of team, leaders (recognition of job well done).
08:54:49 pm odguru: q1) I need respect but not particularly the warm fuzzy. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.  #lrnchat
08:54:56 pm jjthfuture: RT @Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth love the irony: how know high performers to excuse if don’t do reviews? #lrnchat
08:55:23 pm odguru: It’s too bad manners are considered recognition. They are missing (i.e. Thanks!) in far too many work relationships. … #lrnchat
08:55:45 pm sllacera: @JaneBozarth I got that same globe for 5 years… oh jeeezzz #lrnchat
08:55:48 pm TheAirton: Q1) Rewards can seem finite, where recognition can include an award apart from public knowledge #lrnchat
08:56:12 pm KoreenOlbrish: #lrnchat best recognition/reward for me is getting more work/projects/referrals :)
08:56:24 pm Dave_Ferguson: @odguru Hell, bad manners are often considered good management.
#lrnchat
08:56:34 pm kelly_smith01: Recognize for accomplishments/contributions – not for perfect attendance, not being late or being a good person. #lrnchat
08:56:37 pm minutebio: RT @Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth love the irony: how kno h performers excuse if dont do rvws | EZ – Th 1′s who eventually get promoted #lrnchat
08:56:39 pm Quinnovator: q1) think the ‘extrinsic’ rewards/gamification somehow undermine our intrinsic value #lrnchat (but then, I’m a native Californian :)
08:56:55 pm criticallearner: RT @dave_ferguson: @odguru Hell, bad manners are often considered good management.
#lrnchat
08:57:09 pm minutebio: RT @KoreenOlbrish: #lrnchat best recognition/reward for me is getting more work/projects/referrals :) | Performnce punishmnt #lrnchat
08:57:11 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator because perf reviews should be for low performers anyway .And we know who they are. Yes we do. #lrnchat
08:57:21 pm jjthfuture: RT @criticallearner: RT @dave_ferguson: @odguru Hell, bad manners are often considered good management.
#lrnchat   and THAT is a darn shame
08:57:22 pm stevier: @Quinnovator That’s why I still think that “Punished by Rewards” had something going for it. Need to re-read. #lrnchat
08:57:24 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) every time I see reward, I think of a wanted poster. Every time I see recognition, I see someone on a stage. Wonder why. #lrnchat
08:57:27 pm MariaOD: Hi #lrnchat, how about reward or recognition for failures?  #lrnchat
08:57:28 pm MMTingley: RT @KoreenOlbrish: #lrnchat best recognition/reward for me is getting more work/projects/referrals :) #lrnchat
08:57:36 pm Quinnovator: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @odguru Hell, bad manners are often considered good management. #lrnchat
08:57:38 pm odguru: @Dave_Ferguson I have missed you Dave! #lrnchat
08:58:13 pm minutebio: RT @MariaOD: Hi #lrnchat, how about reward or recognition for failures? | Gov’t workers? #lrnchat
08:58:18 pm TheAirton: Q1) Not a warm fuzzy person and recognition (maybe reward) should be given when something is ABOVE and BEYOND day to day task. #lrnchat
08:58:20 pm Quinnovator: @stevier and I think Dan Pink’s “Drive” also puts a nail in that coffin #lrnchat (getting close to Halloween, folks!)
08:58:25 pm criticallearner: RT @mariaod: Hi #lrnchat, how about reward or recognition for failures?  #lrnchat
08:59:02 pm stevier: I would LOVE to see that instituted! RT @criticallearner: RT @mariaod: Hi #lrnchat, how about reward or recognition for failures?
08:59:16 pm KoreenOlbrish: Yes & yet they are so common? ‚Äú@Quinnovator: q1) think the ‘extrinsic’ rewards/gamification somehow undermine our intrinsic value #lrnchat
08:59:23 pm MariaOD: @minutebio, is it that obvious? But seriously we don’t do enough to learn from our failures. #lrnchat
08:59:35 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) I’ll expand that, and say how about reward or recognition for mediocrity?  #lrnchat
08:59:36 pm odguru: @Quinnovator have history w Mcclelland motivations i.e. http://t.co/9W4mlfbY (Power Achievement, Affiliation) need reco 4 all 3. #lrnchat
08:59:36 pm rjpanetti: Q1) the latter being more powerful if done on a regular basis and in most cases low or little cost.. #lrnchat
08:59:44 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat Q1> Rewards are often just “off” in what is given as well as why.
09:00:09 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator my favorite perf review ever, in entirety: “Jane shakes, rattles & rolls.” #lrnchat
09:00:09 pm odguru: @JaneBozarth giggle – yes, I can! #lrnchat
09:00:14 pm Dave_Ferguson: I wonder if the folks who act as though money’s never rewarding turn down pay raises? #lrnchat
09:00:18 pm Quinnovator: @MariaOD heard a better idea: don’t celebrate failure, but instead raise a cheer when the lesson’s learned (makes it safe) #lrnchat
09:00:25 pm Love2LearnAJS: #lrnchat   Recognition is more sincere because it’s low cost..
09:00:44 pm odguru: RT @Dave_Ferguson: People mock rewards for failures, then wonder why nobody takes risks.
#lrnchat
09:00:52 pm lrnchat: Q2) What motivates you to learn something new? What could motivate you to change something you’re resistant to changing? #lrnchat
09:01:06 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) If we promote sameness, we’ll always be the same. And if reward/recognize stagnation, does that imply punishing innovation? #lrnchat
09:01:11 pm criticallearner: RT @dave_ferguson: I wonder if the folks who act as though money’s never rewarding turn down pay raises? #lrnchat
09:01:31 pm MariaOD: @Quinnovator hear hear..raise a cheer..
#lrnchat
09:01:36 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What motivates you to learn something new? What could motivate you to change something you resist changing? #lrnchat
09:01:38 pm stevier: #lrnchat Q2) I am motivated to learn something to complete a task or to solve a problem. This JAZZES me utterly and I ramp it up.
09:01:41 pm Love2LearnAJS: #lrnchat  Q2  It helps me grow inside, makes me a better Mom, better innovator, expands my horizons….I LOVE 2 LEARN
09:01:46 pm MMTingley: MT @Quinnovator: @MariaOD heard a better idea: dont celebrate failure, instead raise a cheer for lessons learned (makes it safe) #lrnchat
09:02:19 pm TheAirton: Bum tap recognition in sports is not allowed in the workplace. #lrnchat
09:02:28 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) Oddly enough, I love to learn, but resist change.  #lrnchat
09:02:31 pm kelly_smith01: There’s no success like failure And that failure’s no success at all #lrnchat
09:02:40 pm odguru: Re @Quinnovator/@KoreenOlbrish *extrinsic*: funny cause they’re corny as hell AND if not thoughtfully replaced an inalienable right.#lrnchat
09:03:07 pm Quinnovator: @KoreenOlbrish see my blog post; whole *huge* bloody multi-day show on ‘motivation’ was co-located with Learning 3.0 conf #lrnchat
09:03:08 pm bonnieendicott: Bonnie from Dallas joining late. Interesting topic, I see. #lrnchat
09:03:19 pm criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat Life motivates me to learn. If I don’t, I don’t know how to operate in an ever-changing world.
09:03:23 pm Dave_Ferguson: (If you plan to fail and succeed, which have you done?)
#lrnchat
09:03:27 pm Love2LearnAJS: #lrnchat  I learn out of necessity, determination…and hope that if I share with others, they will share with me..then I learn even more!
09:03:43 pm minutebio: Q2) Motivated to learn things that will make things easier & more interesting #lrnchat
09:03:54 pm Quinnovator: RT @Dave_Ferguson: (If you plan to fail and succeed, which have you done?) #lrnchat < he’s on a roll and here all week, folks!
09:04:11 pm bonnieendicott: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What motivates you to learn something new? What could motivate you to change something you’re resistant to changing? #lrnchat
09:04:11 pm kelly_smith01: “Lessons learned” is often mentioned  as something worthy of capturing in Knowledge Management.  #lrnchat
09:04:15 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) I’ll learn something, just because (ie want to have more trivia in my head). But I only change if I’m forced to.  #lrnchat
09:04:19 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What motivates you 2 learn something new? What could motivate you 2 change something you’re resistant to changing? #lrnchat
09:04:21 pm rjpanetti: @Dave_Ferguson money is rewarding but it’s a minimum requirement. You gotta go social to get discretionary effort  #lrnchat
09:04:25 pm JaneBozarth: @sllacera did it have a little goldlike plated emblem? that’s worth 15. #lrnchat
09:04:25 pm KoreenOlbrish: @Quinnovator uh oh. #lrnchat will read…
09:04:57 pm MariaOD: @lrnchat Q2 my own personal drive motivates me to learn. Learning helps me change in increments. #lrnchat
09:05:06 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @Love2LearnAJS: #lrnchat  learn out of necessity, determination…& hope – if share w/ others, share with me..I learn even more! #lrnchat
09:05:14 pm TheAirton: Q2) Luckily I have the mind of Dug from Pixar’s Up.. squirrel! Not much prodding needed #lrnchat
09:05:15 pm kellygarber: Q2: I love to learn because I hate being wrong.  #lrnchat
09:05:33 pm Love2LearnAJS: #lrnchat Q2) I”m learning three things right now at the same time…learning about auto hashtag, that other‚Ķ (cont) http://t.co/1jOenB0g
09:05:49 pm Dave_Ferguson: I have in mind 50-year-olds I know for whom a $15/hour job would be a step up. And they’re not alone in this economy. #lrnchat
09:05:52 pm Quinnovator: q2) curiousity or utility, usually.  WIIFM (What’s In It For Me).  able to do things I can’t do now but want to #lrnchat
09:06:17 pm ryantracey: Q2) The need to do something new, or simple curiosity. #lrnchat
09:06:22 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) I’m motivated to learn because it makes me feel good. I’m motivated to change because stagnation would be more painful.  #lrnchat
09:06:26 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) Learn via PLN, informally, and through channels like #lrnchat – no limits a pull approach.  #lrnchat
09:06:28 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @Quinnovator: q2) curiousity or utility, usually.  WIIFM (Whats In It For Me).  able to do things I cant do now but want to #lrnchat
09:06:46 pm MariaOD: Q2: Sometimes I don’t have choice with change. It’s the transition…that’s hard.. #lrnchat
09:06:49 pm Quinnovator: RT @kellygarber: Q2: I love to learn because I hate being wrong.  #lrnchat < *so* with you
09:06:52 pm TheAirton: Q2) Drinks help to breakdown learning resistance. #lrnchat
09:06:55 pm Love2LearnAJS: Q2) and because knowledge is power   #lrnchat
09:07:08 pm sllacera: @JaneBozarth yes… wow, I feel so valued! BLAH! #lrnchat
09:07:17 pm CongresoUNAD: RT @Quinnovator: RT @kellygarber: Q2: I love to learn because I hate being wrong.  #lrnchat < *so* with you
09:07:27 pm criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat Seeing awesome things others did and thinking “how’d they do that? Can I pull it off?” is motivating.
09:07:30 pm jjthfuture: RT @TheAirton: Q2) Drinks help to breakdown learning resistance. #lrnchat  I’ll drink to that
09:07:30 pm sllacera: RT @Dave_Ferguson: (If you plan to fail and succeed, which have you done?)
#lrnchat
09:07:46 pm rjpanetti: Q2) curiosity and the potential to really impact people’s lives. #lrnchat
09:08:26 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat Seeing awesome things others did & thinking “howd they do that? Can I pull it off?” motivating. #lrnchat
09:09:21 pm kellygarber: RT @criticallearner: Q2> Seeing awesome things others did and thinking “howd they do that? Can I pull it off?” is motivating. #lrnchat
09:09:34 pm KoreenOlbrish: ha! Yes :) ‚Äú@kellygarber: Q2: I love to learn because I hate being wrong.  #lrnchat‚Äù
09:10:09 pm kelly_smith01: Ask others (#lrnchat folks) you trust what they read how they implement their PULL/informal learning. #lrnchat
09:10:19 pm criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat And honestly, shiny objects can motivate. Feeling extremely compelled to learn about Siri.
09:10:35 pm MMTingley: RT @KoreenOlbrish: ha! Yes :) ‚Äú@kellygarber: Q2: I love to learn because I hate being wrong.  #lrnchat‚Äù #lrnchat
09:10:47 pm Dave_Ferguson: I like to learn because I hate not knowing.  Though some stuff I can let slide, like most pro sports. #lrnchat
09:10:52 pm Quinnovator: q2) also, learn at least partly to *practice* learning, get better, learning to learn aka meta-learning #lrnchat
09:10:59 pm chambo_online: Lisa Chamberlin – freelance IDer, adjuncter, spaghetti dinner maker, #lrnchatter, multitasker, late-r   Hi! #lrnchat
09:11:01 pm TheAirton: Q2) Just staying attempting ahead of my kids keeps me learning. #lrnchat
09:11:02 pm Love2LearnAJS: RT @jjthfuture: RT @TheAirton: Q2) Drinks help to breakdown learning resistance. #lrnchat  I’ll drink to that
09:11:06 pm pattishank: RT @kelly_smith01: “Lessons learned” is often mentioned  as something worthy of capturing in Knowledge Management.  #lrnchat
09:11:09 pm kelly_smith01: RT @kellygarber: Q2: I love to learn because I hate being wrong.  #lrnchat Or keeping 1 or more steps ahead.
09:11:15 pm ryantracey: @Dave_Ferguson People who aren’t motivated by money typically have plenty of it. #lrnchat
09:11:18 pm sllacera: Q2) My grandma always tells me to keep my brain in shape. She is the smartest grandma ever! #lrnchat
09:11:19 pm pattishank: RT @Dave_Ferguson: (If you plan to fail and succeed, which have you done?)
#lrnchat
09:11:45 pm MMTingley: Q2) I have always refused to let a machine get the better of me. That’s motivation. #lrnchat
09:11:47 pm Quinnovator: q2) we learn what *we* want to, and others will choose otherwise #lrnchat
09:12:06 pm criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat Smart folks with varying perspectives that expand my mind motivate me to learn.
09:12:09 pm Love2LearnAJS: RT @TheAirton: Q2) Just staying attempting ahead of my kids keeps me learning. #lrnchat
09:12:10 pm DavidDLaCroix: RT @Dave_Ferguson People mock rewards for failures, then wonder why nobody takes risks.
#lrnchat
09:12:13 pm Quinnovator: q2) e.g. , e.g. NO one knows all of MS Word, I many know styles, you may know mail merge  (please, learn ‘styles’ :) #lrnchat
09:12:18 pm kellygarber: RT @sllacera: Q2) My grandma always tells me to keep my brain in shape. She is the smartest grandma ever! <- awesome #lrnchat
09:12:22 pm chambo_online: My first question is what’s Q2? #lrnchat
09:12:41 pm tsauri28: RT @kelly_smith01: “Lessons learned” is often mentioned  as something worthy of capturing in Knowledge Management.  #lrnchat
09:12:45 pm Quinnovator: RT @chambo_online: My first question is what’s Q2? #lrnchat < you’ll have to figure out how to learn that ;)
09:12:47 pm TheAirton: Mine says the same at 92 RT @sllacera: Q2) My grandma always tells me to keep my brain in shape. She is the smartest grandma ever! #lrnchat
09:12:58 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @Quinnovator: q2) e.g. , e.g. NO one knows all of MS Word, I many know styles, you may know mail merge  (please, learn styles :) #lrnchat
09:13:28 pm Love2LearnAJS: #lrnchat stop learning or loving  or  laughing…then you stop living….I can’t have that!
09:13:29 pm chambo_online: @Quinnovator lazy begging isn’t an option? #lrnchat
09:13:32 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) Mom always says (and so did her mom and her grandmother, and her great-grandmother): “You’re never too old to learn”. #lrnchat
09:13:49 pm Dave_Ferguson: @tsauri28 Agree, though I do think in many orgs, “lessons learned” is a euphemism for “project mortuary.” #lrnchat
09:13:56 pm jjthfuture: @chambo_online  #lrnchat   pretty sure without going all the way back it was “what motivates you to learn”
09:14:11 pm Quinnovator: @stevier @allthingsnoisy actually @moehlert started it, but he’s been MIA for months! #lrnchat
09:14:15 pm TriciaRansom: @chambo_online Something to do with what motivates you to learn AND what motivates you to change when you don’t want to . #lrnchat
09:14:28 pm Quinnovator: RT @chambo_online: @Quinnovator lazy begging isn’t an option? #lrnchat if it works!
09:14:31 pm minutebio: The best recognition is from your peers. The one’s who actually know 1st hand the effort put forth. #lrnchat
09:14:55 pm criticallearner: RT @dave_ferguson: @tsauri28 Agree, though I do think in many orgs, “lessons learned” is a euphemism for “project mortuary.” #lrnchat
09:15:04 pm kelly_smith01: RT @minutebio: The best recognition is from your peers. The one’s who actually know 1st hand the effort put forth. #lrnchat
09:15:04 pm TriciaRansom: Sorry bout the caps in last tweet…my laptop has a troll in it. Or it was a case of user erROR. #lrnchat
09:15:12 pm kellygarber: RT @lrnchat Q2) What motivates you to learn something new? What could motivate you to change something youre resistant to changing? #lrnchat
09:15:12 pm Love2LearnAJS: #lrnchat   like right now I want to LEAR N why Tweetdeck keeps defaulting back to my personal…frustrating!
09:15:21 pm MMTingley: @DaveFerguson Ppl who mock rewards for failure are rewarded by the punishment of others. Sad.
#lrnchat
09:15:31 pm chambo_online: @jjthfuture @TriciaRansom @Quinnovator – ah, whew – SOME ppl show the love :-) That’s what motivates me ;)
#lrnchat
09:15:47 pm Quinnovator: RT @Love2LearnAJS: #lrnchat stop learning or loving  or  laughing…then you stop living….I can’t have that! < hear hear
09:15:54 pm stevier: I’m a little thirsty… “ADDIE” #lrnchat
09:15:55 pm lrnchat: Q3) When do you or your org reward someone for a significant accomplishment? Is there a better way to recognize them? #lrnchat
09:15:59 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q3) When do you or your org reward someone for a significant accomplishment? Is there a better way to recognize them? #lrnchat
09:16:01 pm TheAirton: Q3… cometh forth…? #lrnchat
09:16:02 pm MariaOD: We do a ‘lessons learned’ ..but not sure how results are shared to learn from for future projects. #lrnchat
09:16:07 pm kelly_smith01: Best recognition is when one’s recognized contributions change (improve) a process. #lrnchat
09:16:11 pm TriciaRansom: Feeling the recognition! RT @chambo_online: @jjthfuture @TriciaRansom @Quinnovator SOME ppl show the love Thats what motivates me  #lrnchat
09:16:24 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q3) When do you or your org reward someone for a significant accomplishment? Is there a better way to recognize them? #lrnchat
09:16:26 pm MariaOD: RT @stevier: Im a little thirsty… “ADDIE” <<yes! #yuengling  #lrnchat
09:16:31 pm Quinnovator: q3) glory uber alles #lrnchat
09:16:33 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q3) When do you or your org reward someone for a significant accomplishment? Is there a better way to recognize them? #lrnchat
09:16:47 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @lrnchat: Q3) When do you or your org reward someone for a significant accomplishment? Is there a better way to recognize them? #lrnchat
09:16:53 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) When do you or your org reward someone for a significant accomplishment? Is there a better way to recognize them? #lrnchat
09:17:07 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q3) When do you or your org reward someone for a significant accomplishment? Is there a better way to recognize them? #lrnchat
09:17:24 pm MMTingley: Q3) Cake! Now, you tell me, is there a better way? #lrnchat
09:17:31 pm stevier: Q3) Our org gives public kudos in meetings. And everyone actually means it when they say “good job.” It’s lovely. #lrnchat
09:17:32 pm Love2LearnAJS: @lrnchat  #lrnchat  Q3)  for my kids I recognize them over and over and publicly 3 acts of kindness, being the bigger person, self imprvmnt
09:17:36 pm Quinnovator: q3) find out how they *want* to be recognized (not same thing for all peeps) #lrnchat
09:17:38 pm chambo_online: Q3) My org? I think the saying is “Hard work is its own reward”…wish it were better. #lrnchat
09:17:45 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) Each month, we have to enter our own kudos into a document on Sharepoint which is shared with someone.  #lrnchat
09:18:06 pm minutebio: Q3) Recognize when L&D staff make people/org more effective #lrnchat
09:18:09 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @MMTingley: Q3) Cake! Now, you tell me, is there a better way? #lrnchat
09:18:27 pm Quinnovator: RT @stevier: Q3) Our org gives public kudos in meetings. And everyone actually means it when they say “good job.” It’s lovely. #lrnchat
09:18:33 pm criticallearner: @mariaod Q2> #lrnchat Unfortunately, lessons learned are documented for filing, not action, too often.
09:18:46 pm TheAirton: Q3) Chest bumps and highfives #lrnchat @Quinnovator Alles? Hiring? #lrnchat
09:19:14 pm Love2LearnAJS: #lrnchat  Q3) Human nature  and the hierarchy of needs says we need esteem, and recog helps that
09:19:20 pm Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: Q3) Any recognition should present recognized accomplishment(s) as a paradigm for others. You can do this. #lrnchat
09:19:24 pm criticallearner: @mmtingley Q3> #lrnchat I see cake and raise: ice cream cake.
09:19:41 pm FaithLegendre: RT @lrnchat: Q3) When do you or your org reward someone for a significant accomplishment? Is there a better way to recognize them? #lrnchat
09:19:41 pm criticallearner: RT @quinnovator: q3) find out how they *want* to be recognized (not same thing for all peeps) #lrnchat
09:19:44 pm Dave_Ferguson: Since it’s money, I guess the multimillion-$ golden parachute means nothing to your average CEO. #lrnchat
09:19:46 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) Where I work, being mandated to collect and document our kudos makes it seem more like a chore, not a recognition/reward. #lrnchat
09:19:50 pm odguru: reward and recognition is completely tailored to the individual’s interests and needs. #Lrnchat
09:20:01 pm minutebio: Q3) Our org recognizes 1 person each month with a $500 reward and pres has town hall explaining person’s accomplishmnt #lrnchat
09:20:09 pm Quinnovator: @TheAirton heard some expert says ‘cheers’, high-fiving among team mates is powerful #lrnchat
09:20:14 pm Love2LearnAJS: @kelly_smith01  #lrnchat   True, true…we all want to have a part in changing the world…in memory of Steve Jobs
09:20:18 pm FaithLegendre: RT @Quinnovator: RT @Love2LearnAJS: #lrnchat stop learning or loving  or  laughing…then you stop living….I can’t have that! < hear hear
09:20:19 pm kellygarber: RT @stevier: Im a little thirsty… “ADDIE” <- i’ll drink to that #lrnchat
09:20:30 pm Dave_Ferguson: @TriciaRansom You’re just bucking for the “best lister of self-kudos” award.
#lrnchat
09:20:36 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) Would love it if management would ask what motivates me, and then uses that. Time off, professional development, bonus… #lrnchat
09:20:39 pm Quinnovator: @Dave_Ferguson golden-parachutes is just the CEO equivalent of ‘got your back’ I reckon #lrnchat
09:20:40 pm MMTingley: Q3) I was once rewarded with extra vacation days. That was fabulous! #lrnchat
09:20:54 pm sllacera: Q3) @MMTingley Any food! We don’t ever underestimate the power of free food! #lrnchat
09:20:59 pm minutebio: Q3 -  #lrnchat
09:21:10 pm TriciaRansom: True, true…but still is a chore! RT @Dave_Ferguson: @TriciaRansom Youre just bucking for the “best lister of self-kudos” award. #lrnchat
09:21:16 pm Love2LearnAJS: @Quinnovator  #lrnchat  and good manager should know that is rule number 1
09:21:21 pm tsauri28: :) RT @Dave_Ferguson @tsauri28 Agree, though I do think in many orgs, “lessons learned” is a euphemism for “project mortuary.” #lrnchat
09:21:30 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat q3> Org has public award ceremonies- unfortunately, too many recognize wrong folks getting credit for work of others.
09:21:37 pm marciamarcia: Yet so few companies even offer! RT @MMTingley: I was once rewarded with extra vacation days. That was fabulous! #lrnchat
09:21:42 pm chambo_online: Q3) So that ink jet printed certificate with the clipart smiley and the comic sans font “Good job!” is not enough? #lrnchat
09:22:06 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) Once was on a project where ppl were rewarded w/great parking spaces. I think a good one would be 1-1 time w/muckety mucks. #lrnchat
09:22:09 pm minutebio: RT @MMTingley: was once rewarded w extra vacation days. That was fabulous! | Gr8 & lower cost to org… just make up work whn back #lrnchat
09:22:13 pm MariaOD: Q3 Promotions although unclear on accomplishments. Reason for reward/recognitions more transparent.  Backchannel can be tough.. #lrnchat
09:22:14 pm odguru: RT:@kellygarber @stevier: Im a little thirsty… “ADDIE” <- i’ll drink to that #lrnchat  now that’s 3.
09:22:23 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @chambo_online: Q3) So ink jet printed certificate with the clipart smiley and the comic sans font “Good job!” is not enough? #lrnchat
09:22:25 pm AgilistaAG: @agilistine Q4) Walk the path 1st clearing it of obstacles & potential traps so my workers can focus on what they love 2 do #lrnchat
Awww :)
09:22:41 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat q3> Manager of our dept asked every team member to document kudos for others for formal use in perf reviews (not an org std).
09:22:56 pm Quinnovator: @chambo_online the certificate they got from me for the workshop, with my *signature* , now that had to be special (sarcasm alert) #lrnchat
09:22:58 pm kelly_smith01: Reading some Knowledge Management topics and recognizing significant accomplishments/improvement is important.  #lrnchat :-)
09:23:10 pm Dave_Ferguson: Did you learn (yet) that “kudos” (it’s singular) comes from Greek kydos, “that which is heard of?”
#lrnchat
09:23:18 pm TheAirton: Q3) Actively search out the small significant changes then smile, extend hand and thank them. Technically called “being nice” #lrnchat
09:23:28 pm marciamarcia: Ick! RT @TriciaRansom: Being mandated to collect & document our kudos makes it seem like a chore, not recognition/reward. #lrnchat
09:23:41 pm TriciaRansom: Love this! RT @Dave_Ferguson: Did you learn (yet) that “kudos” (its singular) comes from Greek kydos, “that which is heard of?” #lrnchat
09:23:42 pm chambo_online: RT @Quinnovator:  the certificate they got  for the workshop, with my *signature* , now that had to be special (sarcasm alert) #lrnchat
09:23:50 pm Love2LearnAJS: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Did you learn (yet) that “kudos” (it’s singular) comes from Greek kydos, “that which is heard of?”
#lrnchat    Thanks!
09:24:12 pm kasey428: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Did you learn (yet) that “kudos” (its singular) comes from Greek kydos, “that which is heard of?” #lrnchat
09:24:19 pm Dave_Ferguson: @TriciaRansom It originally referred to fame or glory, especially in battle…
#lrnchat
09:24:29 pm ryantracey: @MMTingley I agree. Little things like cake can make a big difference. #lrnchat
09:24:52 pm marciamarcia: Heard! RT @Dave_Ferguson: “kudos” (its singular) comes from Greek kydos, “that which is heard of?” #lrnchat
09:24:57 pm Dave_Ferguson: @TriciaRansom “This story shall the good man teach his son…and we in it shall be remembered…we few, we happy few…” #lrnchat
09:25:06 pm kelly_smith01: Don’t get to cheesy with awards. Someone at my company did get a Christmas cheeseball though. Shared it. #lrnchat
09:25:16 pm marciamarcia: RT @Dave_Ferguson: [Kudos} originally referred to fame or glory, especially in battle… #lrnchat
09:25:29 pm sllacera: RT @TriciaRansom: Love this! RT @Dave_Ferguson: Did you learn (yet) that “kudos” (its singular) comes from Greek kydos, “that which is heard of?” #lrnchat
09:26:05 pm kasey428: I have a box full of certificates. I suspect that there some paper mites there as well now. I would have preferred comp time.  #lrnchat
09:27:01 pm Love2LearnAJS: @kasey428  #lrnchat  Yes, when I packed up my office in June had a whole box of certs…no one sees them but me now…and I already know
09:27:21 pm odguru: RT @marciamarcia: RT @Dave_Ferguson: [Kudos} originally referred to fame or glory, especially in battle… #lrnchat
09:27:33 pm Quinnovator: won bottle of Irish Whiskey once for best reading of Dirty Limericks! Boss was ‘old school’ #lrnchat (reading skill, not expert knowledge :)
09:27:45 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) If you are giving rewards, make sure they’re culturally appropriate (ie know that a holiday ham is NOT appreciated by all!) #lrnchat
09:27:50 pm minutebio: Q3 – Gr8 Reward – 20% time. Give me Friday to work on my own project… Like Pink talks abt in #Drive #lrnchat
09:28:01 pm kelly_smith01: A friend mentioned a company that gave a ugly old bowling trophy for accomplishments at monthly company meetings. #lrnchat
09:28:06 pm chambo_online: More important 2me is for org to actually have a clue what I do or even notice the impact of my work #youknowme,youreallyknowme #lrnchat
09:28:10 pm Dave_Ferguson: I won 3 gallons of cheap wine for my Halloween costume once. You could, too, if I told you what it was. #lrnchat
09:28:20 pm kelly_smith01: RT @minutebio: Q3 – Gr8 Reward – 20% time. Give me Friday to work on my own project… Like Pink talks abt in #Drive #lrnchat
09:28:27 pm minutebio: RT @TriciaRansom: …make sure theyre culturally appropriate (ie know that a holiday ham is NOT appreciated by all!) #lrnchat
09:28:33 pm Dave_Ferguson: @minutebio Yes, and another reward would be: let me CHOOSE my own project that I get time to work on. #lrnchat
09:29:11 pm odguru: @chambo_online Integrity, respect accountability.  All hugely motivating fr me.  KNowing what I do is good too! #lrnchat
09:29:17 pm Quinnovator: hmm, noticing a small theme on booze and rewards: if you do well you get to forget what you’re doing? Seems kinda sad… #lrnchat
09:29:19 pm ryantracey: Q3) How about role-relevant rewards, like a book / subscription / conference ticket…? #lrnchat
09:29:35 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @odguru: @chambo_online Integrity, respect accountability.  All hugely motivating fr me.  KNowing what I do is good too! #lrnchat
09:29:36 pm Love2LearnAJS: @Dave_Ferguson  #lrnchat  better yet, send me somewhere to learn something I want to learn but don’t know and need to conquer
09:29:47 pm Quinnovator: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @minutebio Yes, and another reward would be: let me CHOOSE my own project that I get time to work on. #lrnchat
09:30:11 pm chambo_online: RT @Love2LearnAJS: @Dave_Fergusonbetter yet, send me somewhere to learn something I want to learn but dont know and need to conquer #lrnchat
09:30:16 pm TheAirton: Q3) Always have “Thank You” or “Recognition” business cards. Catch them in the ACT and thank them. #lrnchat
09:30:19 pm criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat A lot of latitude on an important project is a great reward (deep demonstration of faith in my contributions).
09:30:24 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @minutebio Yes, and another reward would be: let me CHOOSE my own project that I get time to work on. #lrnchat
09:30:33 pm lrnchat: Q4) What are you in need of changing in yourself or your org? Are there external forces that could help motivate the change? #lrnchat
09:30:49 pm minutebio: Q3)  #lrnchat
09:31:11 pm icepoeta: RT @KoreenOlbrish: ha! Yes :) ‚Äú@kellygarber: Q2: I love to learn because I hate being wrong.  #lrnchat‚Äù
09:31:19 pm JoanVinallCox: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What are you in need of changing in yourself? Are there external forces that could help motivate the change? #lrnchat
09:31:29 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What are you in need of changing in yourself/your org? Are there external forces that could help motivate change? #lrnchat
09:31:35 pm Love2LearnAJS: #lrnchat  Q4)  need to be more organized at home…need to fix that for efficiency to do more things with that free time I dream of!
09:31:36 pm kelly_smith01: Q4) Communicating what I know and can do to others. #lrnchat
09:31:54 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: What are you in need of changing in yourself or your org? r there external forces that could help motivate the change? #lrnchat
09:31:57 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What in need of changing in yourself or org? Are there external forces that could help motivate the change? #lrnchat
09:32:10 pm icepoeta: RT @TriciaRansom Q2) Oddly enough, I love to learn, but resist change.  #lrnchat  – true for many of us!
09:32:12 pm ywsanchez: @dainadunlop I think we all have preferences, but learning style should not be the main focus of your design. #lrnchat
09:32:21 pm MariaOD: @lrnchat Q4 We are challenged to evolve our team to adapt and thrive on change by 2015…help! #lrnchat
09:32:23 pm kelly_smith01: Q4) Need to organize my PLN one of these days, one of these days…#lrnchat
09:32:34 pm Quinnovator: q4) listening better #lrnchat
09:32:34 pm Love2LearnAJS: #lrnchat  Q4) my kids are my external force for changing and bettering myself always
09:32:57 pm Quinnovator: Q4) separating out ‘do’ from ‘reflect’ and making sure there’s the latter #lrnchat
09:33:03 pm chambo_online: Q4) I dream the dreams…I just need to make them happen.  Inertia issues. #jfdi #lrnchat
09:33:04 pm minutebio: RT @kelly_smith01: Q4) Communicating what I know and can do to others. | Sometimes sharing portfolio alone does it. #lrnchat
09:33:17 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) Random question: How liable are orgs for rewards? ie-In case of alcohol and person relapses/wrecks car? #lrnchat
09:33:29 pm Love2LearnAJS: #lrnchat  Q4) external force could be wanting more recognition..(time warp back to Q1
09:33:45 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat Q4> Extrinsic motivators generally have a bad rep, but I have many: keeping up with world, learning from others- drives my change.
09:33:45 pm minutebio: Q4) saying “No” #lrnchat
09:33:51 pm stevier: Q4) I need to change both myself AND my org, to meet somewhere in the middle. #lrnchat
09:33:51 pm MMTingley: Q4) Kitchen sink thinking – the impulse to put everything in for everyone who wants something. #lrnchat
09:34:01 pm MariaOD: Q4 I would like to learn how to read minds. But really I need to listen and respond better. It’s not always about me. #lrnchat
09:34:30 pm minutebio: RT @MMTingley: Q4) Kitchen sink thinking – the impulse to put everything in for everyone who wants something. #lrnchat
09:34:55 pm criticallearner: RT @quinnovator: q4) listening better #lrnchat
09:34:58 pm Love2LearnAJS: #lrnchat   Q4)  I hear voices of self doubt less…would like to not heart them at all…
09:35:04 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) Ideally, I’d like to change and become Supreme Ruler of the Universe. Plan B is to grow into a being a better person.  #lrnchat
09:35:40 pm kelly_smith01: Q4) Having longer sessions of sitting down and reading – esp – professionally relevant materials . #lrnchat
09:35:48 pm ryantracey: +1 RT @minutebio: Q4) saying “No” #lrnchat
09:35:56 pm kasey428: Q4) Self: Tooting my own horn Org: Do not fear change. Embrace it. #lrnchat
09:36:07 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) I need to learn to give up control. So do a lot of other people and organizations.  #lrnchat
09:36:07 pm Love2LearnAJS: RT @TriciaRansom: Q4) Ideally, I’d like to change and become Supreme Ruler of the Universe. #lrnchat I”m applying for that job too!
09:36:11 pm chambo_online: Q4) Less distraction, more action. #lrnchat
09:36:13 pm rjpanetti: RT @kelly_smith01: Q4) Need to organize my PLN one of these days, one of these days…#lrnchat
09:36:21 pm Quinnovator: RT @Love2LearnAJS: #lrnchat   Q4)  hear voices of self doubt less…would like to not hear them at all… < me too
09:36:56 pm criticallearner: RT @chambo_online: Q4) Less distraction, more action. #lrnchat
09:36:56 pm Quinnovator: q4) get out of my own way #lrnchat
09:36:57 pm MariaOD: @criticallearner fortunately our org is small but you’re right..’lessons learned’ is just another deliverable to check off the list #lrnchat
09:37:15 pm kasey428: RT @chambo_online: Q4) Less distraction, more action. #lrnchat
09:37:19 pm Quinnovator: RT @stevier: Q4) I need to change both myself AND my org, to meet somewhere in the middle. #lrnchat < hear *that*!
09:37:22 pm chambo_online: @Quinnovator: @Love2LearnAJS: Just don’t converse with the voices…that would be really bad. #lrnchat
09:37:33 pm kellygarber: RT @chambo_online: Q4) Less distraction, more action. <- that’s a good one, the more I work, the more I’m distracted :) #lrnchat
09:37:48 pm chambo_online: RT @Quinnovator: q4) get out of my own way #lrnchat
09:37:49 pm marciamarcia: Love the distinction btwn external force & external reward RT @Love2LearnAJS: My kids are my external force for changing… #lrnchat
09:37:50 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat Q4> Follow the advice that made Jobs so special “Think different”
09:38:10 pm Love2LearnAJS: RT @chambo_online: @Quinnovator: @Love2LearnAJS: Just don’t converse w/ the voices. #lrnchat   They are on final warning, soon to be fired.
09:38:13 pm Quinnovator: RT @criticallearner: #lrnchat Q4> Follow the advice that made Jobs so special “Think different”
09:38:17 pm kelly_smith01: Focus on saying no http://t.co/DWHti586 (Jobs video) #lrnchat
09:38:44 pm chambo_online: RT @kelly_smith01: Focus on saying no http://t.co/gRgAjWrV (Jobs video) #lrnchat
09:39:03 pm Love2LearnAJS: RT @Quinnovator: RT @criticallearner: #lrnchat Q4>Follow advice that made Jobs so special “Think different”  You read the stanford speech?
09:39:13 pm minutebio: Q4) Insisting others take charge of their own development and should not need their hand held all the time. #Takeinitiative #lrnchat
09:39:21 pm MariaOD: Q4 Have a focus but don’t be afraid to ‘touch’ every facet of the org. Like Jobs did.. #lrnchat
09:39:22 pm kelly_smith01: If you see a box or silo don’t go inside. #lrnchat
09:40:00 pm MariaOD: RT @Quinnovator: RT @criticallearner: #lrnchat Q4> Follow the advice that made Jobs so special “Think different” <<Take risks.. #lrnchat
09:40:04 pm minutebio: RT @kelly_smith01: If you see a box or silo dont go inside. | What’s in there? #lrnchat
09:40:11 pm kellygarber: RT @kelly_smith01: If you see a box or silo dont go inside. <- back away from the light #lrnchat
09:40:13 pm stevier: Q4) If folks don’t see the box they should think outside, it means that it’s so sealed they need a candle first. #lrnchat
09:40:19 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) Each year I pick one thing about myself I want to change and I focus on that single change. Imagine if every org did that same. #lrnchat
09:40:29 pm Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: If you see a box or silo don’t go inside. #lrnchat < break down walls!
09:40:40 pm minutebio: RT @kellygarber: RT @kelly_smith01: If you see a box or silo dont go inside. <- back away from the light #lrnchat
09:40:47 pm odguru: RT @Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: If you see a box or silo don’t go inside. #lrnchat < break down walls!
09:40:50 pm lrnchat: Q5) If internal motivations are required for lasting change, why do educators & leader keep focusing on external ones? #lrnchat
09:40:52 pm TriciaRansom: This is the box/silo speaking “Come to the light…Luke, I’m your father…” #lrnchat
09:40:53 pm Love2LearnAJS: #lrnchat  or just build a better box or silo than the world has ever seen…with a trap door for your favorite people
09:41:00 pm criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Express the change in terms of business value to help org see the other side.
09:41:08 pm kelly_smith01: Think outside the box – Live/work outside the silo. #lrnchat
09:41:14 pm marciamarcia: If you see a box or silo don’t go inside. RT @kelly_smith01 <beautifully said! #lrnchat
09:41:16 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q5) If internal motivations are required for lasting change, why do educators & leader keep focusing on external ones? #lrnchat
09:41:28 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q5) If internal motivations are required for lasting change, why do educators & leader keep focusing on external ones? #lrnchat
09:41:30 pm stevier: Q5) We focus on external change because it’s easier to measure. Internal is HARD. But so UTTERLY worth it. #lrnchat
09:41:38 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q5) If internal motivations are required for lasting change, why do educators & leader keep focusing on external ones? #lrnchat
09:41:41 pm kasey428: RT @marciamarcia: If you see a box or silo dont go inside. RT @kelly_smith01 <beautifully said! #lrnchat
09:42:06 pm chambo_online: Q5) For the same reason they manage top down – it’s what they feel they can control #illusion #lrnchat
09:42:07 pm criticallearner: RT @stevier: Q5) We focus on external change because it’s easier to measure. Internal is HARD. But so UTTERLY worth it. #lrnchat
09:42:23 pm Quinnovator: q5) because understanding internal motivations takes some time to make a habit and “it’s good for them!” #lrnchat
09:42:25 pm TriciaRansom: Q5) Internal change = hard. External change = easy…and measurable. #lrnchat
09:42:39 pm marciamarcia: RT @lrnchat: If internal motivations are required for lasting change, why do educators & leader keep focusing on external ones? #lrnchat
09:42:41 pm MariaOD: RT @kasey428: RT @marciamarcia: If you see a box or silo dont go inside. RT @kelly_smith01 <beautifully said! #lrnchat
09:42:53 pm TheAirton: Q5) External changes are easier to blame when/ if they fall through. #lrnchat
09:43:22 pm criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Habit/tradition. All B-schools push the Org Dev external motivators/rewards teachings.
09:43:22 pm kellygarber: RT @TriciaRansom: Q5) Internal change = hard. External change = easy…and measurable. <- close enough to ROI to drink! #lrnchat
09:43:27 pm Quinnovator: q5) because then we’d have to get to know them, and there just isn’t time!  (sarcasm) #lrnchat
09:43:48 pm kelly_smith01: They may think they capture internal with MBTI – #lrnchat
09:43:55 pm kasey428: Q5) It is much easier to empower change you can see than change what cannot be seen. #lrnchat
09:44:01 pm minutebio: Q5) It’s easier to reward externally. Easy way out #lrnchat
09:44:02 pm TriciaRansom: Q5) With external change, you can use ADDIE to develop a pedagogy for ROI…or something like that. #lrnchat
09:44:02 pm TheAirton: #lrnchat and Speed #F1 practice. Good times
09:44:19 pm Quinnovator: q5) because we need replicability and efficiency, not effectiveness (sarcasm) #lrnchat
09:44:45 pm Love2LearnAJS: #lrnchat  because it’s easier for them, and we allow it….people need to stand up and be heard
09:45:00 pm kellygarber: RT @TriciaRansom: Q5) With external change, you can use ADDIE to develop a pedagogy for ROI…or something like that. <-cheers!! #lrnchat
09:45:01 pm minutebio: Q5 -  Sometimes internal motivation is just 2 “mushy.” #lrnchat
09:45:27 pm stevier: @kellygarber Well played! #lrnchat
09:45:35 pm criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Because the soft stuff is the hard stuff ;)
09:45:36 pm kelly_smith01: If their thought dreams could be seen. #lrnchat
09:45:52 pm Love2LearnAJS: #lrnchat  they need more examples of internal motivation giving the best success…Mr. Jobs, US
09:45:54 pm Quinnovator: RT @criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Because the soft stuff is the hard stuff ;)
09:46:04 pm odguru: Q5) People are 80% water and 20% a bit stuck.Change or Die shows change is hard even when stakes r higher than a lateral promotion. #lrnchat
09:46:12 pm MMTingley: RT @criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Because the soft stuff is the hard stuff ;) #lrnchat
09:46:42 pm minutebio: RT @MMTingley: RT @criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Because the soft stuff is the hard stuff ;) #lrnchat
09:46:42 pm kasey428: RT @criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Because the soft stuff is the hard stuff ;) #lrnchat
09:46:58 pm MariaOD: RT @Quinnovator: RT @criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Because the soft stuff is the hard stuff ;) #lrnchat
09:47:31 pm chambo_online: Q5) Repeat after me: Internal motivation is personal. #lrnchat
09:47:40 pm TriciaRansom: Q5) Can/should an organization really push internal change on others? Who decides what that change is?  #lrnchat
09:47:59 pm ywsanchez: Ask a Cognitive Scientist: Can Teachers Increase Student’s  Self-Control?  (via Dan Williingham) |  http://t.co/XpslBGpX  | #edchat #lrnchat
09:48:00 pm Love2LearnAJS: #lrnchat  Q5) it requires digging deep, feeling much, learning passionately …not everyone wants to work that hard…they need weeded out
09:48:09 pm kellygarber: RT @stevier: @kellygarber Well played! <- thanks for the recognition! :) #lrnchat
09:48:22 pm MMTingley: Q5) I think there’s a sense that only high performers are internally driven. #lrnchat
09:48:25 pm Quinnovator: RT @chambo_online: Q5) Repeat after me: Internal motivation is personal. #lrnchat < sing after me “let’s get personal, personal” ONJ
09:48:30 pm minutebio: RT @chambo_online: Q5) Repeat after me: Internal motivation is personal. | Internal motivation is personal. #lrnchat
09:48:34 pm TriciaRansom: And since it is, can it be institutionalized? RT @chambo_online: Q5) Repeat after me: Internal motivation is personal. #lrnchat
09:48:35 pm stevier: @kellygarber I’ll buy you a “reward” if we ever meet IRL… ;) #lrnchat
09:48:43 pm criticallearner: RT @chambo_online: Q5) Repeat after me: Internal motivation is personal. #lrnchat > you motivated me to RT this!
09:49:19 pm kelly_smith01: Internal requires trust – not something you can put on a chart. #lrnchat
09:49:43 pm kellygarber: RT @stevier: @kellygarber Ill buy you a “reward” if we ever meet IRL… ;) <- oh that would be grand! I’m motivated! #lrnchat
09:49:44 pm Love2LearnAJS: #lrnchat  Q5)  quantification is difficult
09:49:52 pm MariaOD: Q5 External motivation is more culturally accepted and safe…i.e. the globe we saw earlier.. #lrnchat
09:50:01 pm minutebio: Q5) We are internally motivated to attend 2night’s  #lrnchat
09:50:21 pm Quinnovator: q5) need to have a mission worth wanting to succeed, external begs the question of ‘why’ #lrnchat
09:51:12 pm chambo_online: Q5) External reward can kill motivation…#drive #lrnchat
09:51:12 pm mequel: RT @minutebio: Q3 – Gr8 Reward – 20% time. Give me Friday to work on my own project… Like Pink talks abt in #Drive #lrnchat
09:51:20 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome. #lrnchat
09:51:21 pm mequel: RT @TriciaRansom: Q3) Rewarding and recognizing doesn’t have to be about $. At old job, just wanted a fleece. That woulda made me happy. #lrnchat
09:51:28 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome. #lrnchat
09:51:38 pm kelly_smith01: RT @chambo_online: Q5) External reward can kill motivation…#drive #lrnchat
09:51:41 pm Quinnovator: RT @chambo_online: Q5) External reward can kill motivation…#drive #lrnchat < who cares?  :)
09:51:48 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome. #lrnchat
09:51:51 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome. #lrnchat < already?
09:52:08 pm criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat @chambo_online I think you can understand a person’s internal motivations (I think I know my kids’ motivators and use them)
09:52:08 pm MMTingley: Q5) More ppl need to read “First Break all the Rules.” Strengths come closest to indicating internal motivation.
#lrnchat
09:52:30 pm Quinnovator: thanks to new and returning #lrnchat participants for another mind-expanding session
09:52:33 pm chambo_online: RT @Quinnovator: RT @chambo_online:  who cares?  :) —> Low blood sugar? #lrnchat
09:52:45 pm Love2LearnAJS: my first full  #lrnchat totally rocked….great motivation to learn more and come back
09:52:51 pm stevier: Qwrap) Stevie Rocco, Senior Learning Designer for Penn State, signing off. :) Beat Iowa! #lrnchat
09:52:52 pm MariaOD: Qwarp: Maria from Columbus, Ohio. Work in HR/OD/ID for a public library where failure is celebrated..Go Bucks! #lrnchat
09:53:32 pm Love2LearnAJS: #lrnchat   will be back on the job market soon…just accepted to psu ed tech program….
09:53:36 pm odguru: Christy in Canada – please let let me know your fav collaboration software! #lrnchat
09:53:57 pm Quinnovator: qwrap) Clark Quinn, learning experience design strategist, consultant/author/speaker, genial malcontent, internally motivated #lrnchat
09:54:06 pm criticallearner: Thanks for another great #lrnchat, folks. Signing off from Tampa, FL. ADDIE (for those of you needing one last drink)
09:54:15 pm minutebio: Gr8 lrnchat 2night, thx every1 – Jeff Goldman, eLearning Designer in Baltimore #lrnchat
09:54:30 pm Love2LearnAJS: #lrnchat    SPHR, Captivate Developer, diversity practitioner, york pa
09:54:42 pm kellygarber: Qw: Kelly, Florida – Instructional Designer. Great chat, thanks all. #lrnchat
09:54:43 pm TriciaRansom: Qwrap) This is the Supreme Ruler saying goodnight and thanks to everyone for helping me learn/grow tonight. I enjoyed it! #lrnchat
09:54:45 pm Quinnovator: @odguru fave collaboration?  whatever all my peeps are on! #lrnchat (google docs, mostly)
09:54:47 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, freelancing mostly in North Texas sometimes Minnesota #lrnchat
09:54:57 pm MariaOD: @odguru sharepoint #lrnchat
09:55:22 pm kasey428: Kay Wood…late again, DC area, and woefully tired elearning and performance consultant #lrnchat
09:55:24 pm kelly_smith01: Great chat internally and externally. #lrnchat
09:55:24 pm Love2LearnAJS: RT @MariaOD: @odguru sharepoint #lrnchat  agreed.  Sharepoint
09:55:47 pm chambo_online: Qwrap) Lisa Chamberlin, Freelance ID, Washington State, all things learning related, full of spaghetti now. #lrnchat
09:55:59 pm MMTingley: @odguru Jive! #lrnchat
09:56:08 pm Quinnovator: @kasey428 repeat after me “one more day ’til the weekend!” (sleep well) #lrnchat
09:56:18 pm odguru: @Quinnovator Google docs is where we seem to be too.  Need a better streaming discussion. IS there a google thing 4 that. #lrnchat
09:56:19 pm Love2LearnAJS: #lrnchat  will add some of you to follow…great networking…appreciated
09:56:26 pm MariaOD: Any insight on how to help staff adapt and thrive on change much appreciated.  #lrnchat
09:56:44 pm Quinnovator: @chambo_online thought the expression was “full of baloney” :) #lrnchat
09:56:44 pm TheAirton: QWrap) Airton in O-Town, High Fives till the next #lrnchat I will be following you. BTW @Quinnovator last 2 blog posts were right on
09:56:53 pm stevier: @Quinnovator We’re using Google docs, VoiceThread, and exploring Organic Groups in Drupal for collaboration.#lrnchat
09:57:22 pm Quinnovator: @TheAirton thanks! #lrnchat
09:57:56 pm MMTingley: Qwrap) Melissa Tingley eLearning ID and general edu-geek Boston. Have a great weekend everyone! #lrnchat
09:58:30 pm Quinnovator: @odguru google wave? sorry, couldn’t resist ;)    Not sure what streaming discussion is.  Google groups for asynch? #lrnchat
09:59:52 pm lrnchat: Thanks for joining #lrnchat. We’ll post the transcript on http://lrnchat.com See you again next Thursday.

Transcript 31 March 2011 (early)

March 31, 2011

10:30:15 am lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been?
10:30:28 am urbie: #lrnchat starts in a minute — outgoing tweets increasing in number like nobody’s business (papa used to say that a lot)..
10:30:31 am StephanieDaul: #lrnchat starts in 5 min. This week’s topic is Learning Analytics
10:30:47 am MimiBarbara: #lrnchat starting now. This week’s topic is Learning Analytics! #lrnchat
10:30:58 am alc47: #lrnchat now for 90 mins – lots and lots of Tweets #lrnchat
10:31:23 am juandoming: RT @MoodleMcKean: Google +1 Adds Recommendations to Search Results : Free Technology for Teachers http://bit.ly/fOE108 #edtech #elearning #tlchat #lrnchat
10:31:35 am lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1. Introduce yourself. Location? Focus? Fave topics? What brings you here tonight?
10:31:53 am megbertapelle: @lrnchat gd thx! :) crazy busy, but finishing up a new elearning – incorporating more practice a la @CatMoore, hope 4 gd feedback #lrnchat
10:32:07 am megbertapelle: RT @lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1. Introduce yourself. Location? Focus? Fave topics? What brings you here tonight?
10:32:08 am RyanJSegrist: Learning Analytics sounds like numbers! I like numbers! :) #lrnchat
10:32:17 am RyanJSegrist: RT @lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1. Introduce yourself. Location? Focus? Fave topics? What brings you here tonight?
10:32:20 am MandyRG: I was energised after webinar delivery at 12 today for #lsgwebinar but now I’m feeling knackered. Energised agn now for #lrnchat
10:32:22 am rachelsparrow: trying out #lrnchat for the first time!
10:32:28 am cahlan: #lrnchat Cahlan Sharp. Orem, UT. Focus is Learning Analytics product development.
10:32:30 am lrnchat: Rule2. [try to] stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 15 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
10:32:38 am megbertapelle: @rachelsparrow welcome! #lrnchat
10:32:46 am KristiBroom: RT @MimiBarbara: #lrnchat starting now. This weeks topic is Learning Analytics! #Lrnchat
10:32:50 am derekwwade: Hello to my followers – my Twitter output will increase a bit for the next half hour — join me on #lrnchat
10:32:55 am StephanieDaul: RT @alc47: #lrnchat now for 90 mins – lots and lots of Tweets #lrnchat
10:33:08 am megbertapelle: RT @lrnchat: Rule2. [try to] stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 15 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
10:33:22 am JaneBozarth: Thanks to @weisblatt for this week’s questions #lrnchat
10:33:22 am billcush: Have a minor but annoying cold and cough today! But here with bells on. RT @lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been?
10:33:25 am lrnchat: Rule3. When writing, complete thoughts help followers outside chat learn from you. #lrnchat
10:33:25 am c4lpt: RT @lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1. Introduce yourself. Location? Focus? Fave topics? What brings you here tonight?
10:33:28 am StephanieDaul: @rachelsparrow Welcome, hope you enjoy the discussion #lrnchat
10:33:39 am megbertapelle: RT @lrnchat: Rule3. When writing, complete thoughts help followers outside chat learn from you. #lrnchat
10:33:42 am rachelsparrow: #lrnchat – hi I’m Rachel, based in Bristol, I work predicting the future trends of l&d and future proofing the company. Love social media
10:33:42 am MandyRG: #lrnchat Mandy Randall-Gavin from Brighton UK here. Learning & Development Consultant STILL waiting for the next amazing job opportunity
10:33:49 am adfunkster: I’m participating in #lrnchat in 5min. Ignore my seemingly random messages – or come and participate too! :)
10:33:55 am davidakoontz: hi, first timer at learn chat – @derekwwade is guiding me…; Chicago, Agile SW Coach #lrnchat
10:34:04 am urbie: todays #lrnchat topic: something called learning analytics
10:34:05 am LnDDave: Jumping into #lrnchat for the next 90 minutes. Please excuse the excess tweets, and feel free to join us! #lrnchat
10:34:07 am c4lpt: @rachelsparrow Hi Rachel! Enjoy! #lrnchat
10:34:07 am StephanieDaul: @InfoAtOCP Welcome to #lrnchat
10:34:20 am MimiBarbara: Q0) Barbara Smith, Atlanta, GA. Focus is instructional design strategy and innovation. #lrnchat
10:34:24 am lrnchat: Rule4. Remember to include #lrnchat in all posts. http://tweetchat.com http://tweetgrid.com & http://twubs.com work well.
10:34:31 am katridgely: #Lrnchat Kat Ridgely, Senior Learning Tech Spec., VA, just looking to share some good info! Second lrnchat for me.
10:34:36 am JaneBozarth: Raleigh-Durham. Interested in ID, training, and moving past both. Write for Learning Solutions and now editing eLearn magazine. #lrnchat
10:34:49 am megbertapelle: @davidakoontz welcome to #lrnchat! :)
10:34:56 am urbie: #lrnchat intro: urbie delgado, instructional designer, interested in (re)humanizing distance ed, washington, dc, former phd stoodent
10:35:00 am megbertapelle: RT @lrnchat: Rule4. Remember to include #lrnchat in all posts. http://tweetchat.com http://tweetgrid.com & http://twubs.com work well.
10:35:04 am wls1961: Wanda Simpson, Ed Tech Coordinator, Morgantown, WV #lrnchat
10:35:16 am dawnjmahoney: RT @LnDDave: Jumping into #lrnchat for the next 90 minutes. Please excuse the excess tweets, and feel free to join us! #lrnchat
10:35:20 am catherine_delia: Will be listening in on #lrnchat for next hour or so. Potentially elevated level of tweeting. Topic: Learning Analytics.
10:35:20 am alc47: @rachelsparrow Welcome – have fun! #lrnchat
10:35:28 am c4lpt: Jane Hart, SoBiz Consultant in the UK and part of the Internet Time Alliance #inttime #lrnchat
10:35:36 am mrch0mp3rs: How we doin’ #lrnchat?
10:35:37 am lrnchat: Rule5. Periodically RT questions so those outside #lrnchat know what you’re talking about & so they can chime in too.
10:35:38 am RyanJSegrist: Q0) Ryan Segrist in DC, learning all the time. I kicked Articulate’s butt this week!!! #lrnchat
10:35:47 am megbertapelle: RT @lrnchat: Rule5. Periodically RT questions so those outside #lrnchat know what you’re talking about & so they can chime in too.
10:35:47 am StephanieDaul: Stephanie Daul, Learning Development Consultant, Chicago, IL #lrnchat
10:35:48 am atomic_jenna: Jenna Papakalos, Online Marketing Manager, Orlando, FL Atomic Training #lrnchat
10:35:58 am kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, Learning Consultant, Finishing project in Denver then back to North Texas #lrnchat
10:36:09 am dbolen: Don Bolen, Atlanta, PM, learning design and strategist #lrnchat
10:36:16 am roquegus: Gus Roque, Instructional Designer @ FIU Online #lrnchat
10:36:16 am npmaven: Debra Beck, Wyoming. Adult educator/online instructor (grad-level)/nonprofit board development wonk. #lrnchat
10:36:22 am billcush: RT @lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1. Introduce yourself. Location? Focus? Fave topics? What brings you here tonight?
10:36:22 am atomic_jenna: @mrch0mp3rs Doing great! You? #lrnchat
10:36:26 am Tina_Barr: Joining in on #lrnchat please excuse the heavy tweeting!
10:36:28 am KatieStroudPro: Hello everyone. Katie Stroud here. Just started out on my own as a training consultant. #lrnchat
10:36:28 am lrnchat: Rule6. On #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm & irony welcome though. Really. Seriously. #bringiton
10:36:30 am edCetraTraining: Nancy Safar, edCetra Training, introducing Jeffrey our PM to lrnchat #lrnchat
10:36:31 am olliegardener: Hi everyone. Ollie here. Co-founder of NoddleSoft. Tweeting from my sunny veranda in Croatia :) #lrnchat
10:36:34 am megbertapelle: RT @lrnchat: Rule6. On #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm & irony welcome though. Really. Seriously. #bringiton
10:36:36 am maritzavdh: Maritza van den Heuvel, Product Manager at Kaplan Learning Technologies. Cape Town, South Africa. #lrnchat
10:36:37 am derekwwade: Derek W. Wade, Chicago IL – helping people learn how to work better by playing better, and play better by working better. #lrnchat
10:36:38 am chettbradley: #lrnchat hello everyone, Chett from Toronto here. PD go-to for health prof. assn. Liking learning models, uxd, infographic design
10:36:58 am KristiBroom: Hi Everyone! Kristi Broom, Minneapolis, MN, learning technology, innovation, social stuff #Lrnchat
10:37:00 am olliegardener: @alc47 evening Nic :) #lrnchat
10:37:06 am JaneBozarth: @RyanJSegrist Hi Ryan! How’ve you been? #lrnchat
10:37:09 am derekwwade: Bringing @davidakoontz into the mix, please welcome ;) #lrnchat
10:37:15 am RyanJSegrist: @KristiBroom Hi Kristi! #Lrnchat
10:37:16 am c4lpt: Don’t forget the Official Lrnchat Drinking Game™ http://lrnchatdrinkinggame.wikispaces.com/ (drinks at the ready!) #lrnchat
10:37:19 am dawnjmahoney: #lrnchat Dawn Mahoney CPLP -T&D Mgr, ID, Facilitator–passionate learner near Madison WI Welcome all–glad to c u all today!
10:37:19 am lrnchat: Rule7. A few mins before the end of #lrnchat, reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too.
10:37:25 am alc47: Nic Laycock Learning consultant helping organisations through the SoMe transition #lrnchat
10:37:29 am megbertapelle: RT @c4lpt: Don’t forget the Official Lrnchat Drinking Game™ http://lrnchatdrinkinggame.wikispaces.com/ (drinks at the ready!) #lrnchat
10:37:34 am adfunkster: #lrnchat Dirk Funk, Instructional designer from Amarillo school district. First time to participate instead of lurk.
10:37:35 am JudithELS: I’m just about to join #lrnchat so please excuse excessive tweets in the next hour. Pls do join us though … #lrnchat
10:37:40 am Tina_Barr: Hello all, Tina in Boston. Community manager for @carneysandoe #lrnchat
10:37:55 am megbertapelle: RT @lrnchat: Rule7. A few mins before the end of #lrnchat, reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too.
10:38:16 am maritzavdh: Going to catch a few minutes of #lrnchat before I have to be off again. My topics: performance support, mlearning, social learning.
10:38:25 am lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
10:38:27 am megbertapelle: @adfunkster welcome Dirk! #lrnchat
10:38:27 am scogill: #lrnchat intro: Sarah – Atlanta GA – Curriculum Manager responsible for content for new product training interested in social learning
10:38:31 am LauraLJ: Just about to participate in #lrnchat why not join me?
10:38:31 am megbertapelle: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
10:38:31 am alc47: @olliegardener Evening Ollie – how’s your week? #lrnchat
10:38:32 am purplelearning: Just about to participate in #lrnchat why not join me?
10:38:37 am JaneBozarth: Hello @davidakoontz . Say something funny, quick! #lrnchat
10:38:43 am JudithELS: Hi everyone. Judith Christian-Carter here from Warwickshire, UK who lives, breathes & eats learning. Yummy! #lrnchat
10:38:48 am AndreaMay1: #lrnchat Hi everyone, Andrea May in Minneapolis. VP, Inst Design for @dashethomson
10:38:49 am mrch0mp3rs: Aaron Silvers, Chicago, IL. Community Manager for @ADL_Initiative @LrnEXP @learningreg . CLO, Blogger, After Hours Party Person #lrnchat
10:38:50 am StephanieDaul: @adfunkster Welcome Dirk! #lrnchat
10:39:09 am maritzavdh: @JudithELS Hello. :-) Nice to be in #lrnchat with you tonight, albeit brief from my side.
10:39:11 am CherylMcLean: Cheryl McLean, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Focus is on ID and social media. Looking forward to #lrnchat discussion on Learning Analytics
10:39:12 am simbeckhampson: Paul Simbeck-Hampson, Consultant: Creativity, Design and Innovation, South Germany… http://simbeckhampson.com – Good evening :) #lrnchat
10:39:12 am billcush: Mountain View, CA. Sales training…among other things…software, leadership dev, etc. #lrnchat
10:39:18 am LnDDave: Greetings #lrnchat – David Kelly, Training Director from NYC. Looking forward to another engaging discussion.
10:39:19 am catherine_delia: Hi Catherine from Rochester, NY, e-learning systems mgr, I usually do late session, but can’t tonite. #lrnchat
10:39:20 am RyanJSegrist: @JaneBozarth Hi Jane! I’ve been good. I’m glad I can get back into #lrnchat again. How have you been?
10:39:27 am atomic_jenna: @JaneBozarth Hi! You will be in my neck of the woods for the ASTD conference. We must get together! #lrnchat
10:39:27 am Tina_Barr: @JudithELS Hello! Good to ‘see’ you. I have not been able to do any chats for some time! #lrnchat
10:39:38 am TriciaRansom: Hi everyone, this is Tricia in Chicago! #lrnchat
10:39:39 am davidakoontz: duck #lrnchat
10:39:50 am KatieStroudPro: Haven’t learned much today–the day just got started over here in the Pacific Northwest. #lrnchat
10:39:57 am RaphaelHickling: #lrnchat Good day everyone. Raphael form Brooklyn NY and founder of StudyBoost.com
10:39:58 am MandyRG: #lrnchat Q0) I’ve learned that preparation is EVERYTHING if you’re delivering an online session. be prepared with technology as well as you
10:39:58 am dawnjmahoney: #lrnchat Q0) Learned that I just may not be as good at multi-tasking as I used to think I am. Dang! Research mt be right!
10:40:03 am alc47: Q0 I’ve learned that being kind brings warmth – even in cyberspace #lrnchat
10:40:09 am simbeckhampson: Twitter followers: Excuse tweet volume, it’s time for #lrnchat – if it gets too noisy, my advice is, join in :)
10:40:10 am mrch0mp3rs: @atomic_jenna Can’t complain about a thing. #lrnchat
10:40:11 am chettbradley: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
10:40:18 am TriciaRansom: Attention followers, I’ll be in the weekly online L&D chat called #lrnchat. AVANLANCHE of tweets coming…why dont u stop by?
10:40:29 am cahlan: #lrnchat Q1) learned that Krispy Kremes aren’t always the best start to a morning
10:40:35 am c4lpt: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week? #lrnchat
10:40:35 am atomic_jenna: @mrch0mp3rs Ditto! I’m fresh off vacation and loving life. #lrnchat
10:40:37 am Tina_Barr: Q0) I have learned that nature likes to play April Fool’s too (incoming snow storm tomorrow) #lrnchat
10:40:42 am KristiBroom: @RyanJSegrist Hi Ryan. How are you? #Lrnchat
10:40:45 am purplelearning: Hello #lrnchat peeps, I also Tweet as @LauraLJ and will be using that for my conversations.
10:40:47 am wls1961: Q0) learned my brother is at Photoshop World and I’m not! #lrnchat
10:40:50 am adfunkster: #lrnchat Am learning to create multimedia ePub files for distributing content to our staff using eReaders.
10:40:52 am TriciaRansom: Q0) Just learned all about SharePoint…going to use it for SME review instead of emails #lrnchat
10:40:55 am JudithELS: @maritzavdh Nice to touch base with you too – it’s been too long :-( #lrnchat
10:40:56 am MimiBarbara: Q0) I’ve learned I function much better when I mind map my work. #lrnchat
10:41:03 am MandyRG: RT @cahlan: #lrnchat Q1) learned that Krispy Kremes aren’t always the best start to a morning>really? Never had that problem meself..
10:41:07 am RyanJSegrist: #lrnchat I have learned that you need more than one set of eyes on a piece of educational material…or else you look goofy
10:41:11 am megbertapelle: RT @dawnjmahoney: #lrnchat Q0) Learned that I just may not be as good at multi-tasking as I used to think I am. Dang! Research mt be right!
10:41:16 am KristiBroom: @TriciaRansom Hi Tricia. Warming up for you in Chicago? #Lrnchat
10:41:19 am dawnjmahoney: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
10:41:21 am simbeckhampson: Q0) I learnt that Google continues to shine in innovation and creativity. Blogger overhaul and +1 launch all within 24 hrs!! #lrnchat
10:41:22 am c4lpt: Q1) I’ve learned you sometime need to behave like an elephant (don’t ask!) #lrnchat
10:41:25 am InfoAtOCP: RT @TriciaRansom: Q0) Just learned all about SharePoint…going to use it for SME review instead of emails #lrnchat <-SharePoint’s tough
10:41:25 am derekwwade: Q0) I have learned how to better quiet my inner self-Judge, and allow learners to have their own experience w/o it being “about me” #lrnchat
10:41:32 am billcush: Hi @triciaransom: Hi everyone, this is Tricia in Chicago! #lrnchat
10:41:34 am RyanJSegrist: @KristiBroom I’ve been doing well. How have you been? #Lrnchat
10:41:36 am janet_frg: Have the rare chance to join in #lrnchat, please excuse the extra tweets.
10:41:39 am urbie: #lrnchat learned that sometimes giving up is the right thing to do
10:41:46 am catherine_delia: Q0) Learning more & more about Articulate and loving it, hoping to find the money to buy it. #lrnchat
10:41:52 am JaneBozarth: Q0 Learning about using PowerPoint on the Ipad. #lrnchat
10:41:52 am StephanieDaul: RT @TriciaRansom: Q0) Just learned all about SharePoint…going to use it for SME review instead of emails <love fewer emails> #lrnchat
10:41:56 am alc47: @c4lpt Really? #lrnchat
10:41:56 am TriciaRansom: @KristiBroom Warm? In Chicago? Coldest March in 28 years according to weatherman. sigh #lrnchat
10:41:58 am Tina_Barr: RT @katridgely: #lrnchat Q0) I learned that snakes in the bronx can post very funny tweets @BronxZoosCobra
10:42:07 am dbolen: Q0 learned that must trust my spidey sense and not fall into this is the way we do it here and resulting bad outcome #lrnchat
10:42:12 am TriciaRansom: @InfoAtOCP Tell me about it #lrnchat
10:42:17 am KristiBroom: Q0) I conquered a pivot table and chart in Excel. Not sure I learned yet though. #Lrnchat
10:42:20 am billcush: Q0) Today I learned I really can host lively discussions on Yammer instead of in a class. #lrnchat It is happening right now.
10:42:26 am LnDDave: Q0) I learned that hooking my iPad up to my HDTV is pretty damned awesome, and something I can leverage for learning. #lrnchat
10:42:29 am TriciaRansom: @billcush Hey! How you doin’? #lrnchat
10:42:34 am edCetraTraining: Q0) More ppl use celoxis as a pm tool than i thought #lrnchat
10:42:37 am atomic_jenna: @LnDDave Love that #lrnchat
10:42:38 am megbertapelle: love it! > RT @MimiBarbara: Q0) I’ve learned I function much better when I mind map my work. #lrnchat
10:42:42 am TriciaRansom: @StephanieDaul Everyone loves fewer emails, right? #lrnchat
10:42:43 am olliegardener: @c4lpt an invaluable skill I find – in certain circumstances ;/ #lrnchat
10:42:46 am MimiBarbara: @dbolen I trust your spidey sense. #lrnchat
10:42:47 am rachelsparrow: Q0 I’ve learnt how to set up an external group on Yammer! #lrnchat
10:42:51 am davidakoontz: Q0) Schneider’s Culture model: Collaboration, Control, Cultivation, Competence are the quadrants #lrnchat
10:42:52 am StephanieDaul: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week? #lrnchat
10:42:56 am katridgely: RT @billcush: Q0) Today I learned I really can host lively discussions on Yammer instead of in a class. #lrnchat It is happening right now.
10:43:04 am MandyRG: RT @KristiBroom: Q0) I conquered a pivot table and chart in Excel. Not sure I learned yet though. #Lrnchat>gotta start somewhere right?
10:43:05 am KristiBroom: @RyanJSegrist I’m doing well too. Glad to see you here again! #Lrnchat
10:43:06 am Tina_Barr: Q0) I (re)learned to just have faith at times that things can work out positively, even when you have no control #lrnchat
10:43:08 am megbertapelle: RT @derekwwade: Q0) I have learned how to better quiet my inner self-Judge, and allow learners to have their own experience w/o it being “about me” #lrnchat
10:43:14 am TriciaRansom: Q0) Learned that the Dept. of Streets & Sanitation is cutting workforce…mainly rat catchers. UGH #lrnchat
10:43:18 am dawnjmahoney: #lrnchat I’ve learned that we have an official drinking game Wiki–who knew?
10:43:18 am janet_frg: Q0) I learned that @Dave_Ferguson writes great blogs http://bit.ly/huMBUM (okay I already knew it but this one is really good!) #lrnchat
10:43:20 am billcush: Cool. I find it difficult..maybe its the change. RT @mimibarbara: Q0) I’ve learned I function much better when I mind map my work. #lrnchat
10:43:21 am RaphaelHickling: #lrnchat Q0) I’ve learned rain cannot stop progress. Its raining here in NY.
10:43:23 am jennystaley: Q0: Trying out Basecamp as a way to share online student portfolios #lrnchat
10:43:24 am JaneBozarth: Q0 Also learned about Storyline, coming soon from Articulate oohhhh, shiny…. #lrnchat
10:43:32 am rachelsparrow: @JaneBozarth that sounds very interesting #lrnchat
10:43:38 am OpenSesameNow: Good morning, #lrnchat! Kelly from OpenSesame elearning marketplace in Portland. Learned I am much better @ recording screencasts @ home
10:43:39 am kelly_smith01: Q0) Learning (in process) Google +1 as mentioned by #LRNCHAT folks (it is in test mode)
10:43:41 am catherine_delia: Q0) Contemplating how we can use Adobe X to maintain 100+ pg manual for elearning module. #lrnchat
10:43:43 am dbolen: RT @jennystaley: Q0: Trying out Basecamp as a way to share online student portfolios #lrnchat great tool
10:43:44 am KristiBroom: @TriciaRansom Ugh. Hope it warms up soon. #Lrnchat
10:43:46 am mrch0mp3rs: Q0) culling data from Facebook Questions, ppl like when I post something serious about food including a music or movie reference. #lrnchat
10:43:53 am JudithELS: Q0) I’ve learned this week that I can produce better work when I slow down a bit! #lrnchat
10:43:53 am maritzavdh: Q0) I’ve learnt that just because people are in the same building doesn’t mean they’re going to speak to each other. #lrnchat
10:43:56 am RyanJSegrist: @KristiBroom Good to go! I’m glad to be back. #Lrnchat
10:44:05 am MimiBarbara: RT @JaneBozarth: Looks fascinating! Q0 Also learned about Storyline, coming soon from Articulate oohhhh, shiny…. #lrnchat
10:44:06 am megbertapelle: RT @LnDDave: Q0) I learned that hooking my iPad up to my HDTV is pretty damned awesome, and something I can leverage for learning. #lrnchat
10:44:09 am mrch0mp3rs: RT @maritzavdh: Q0) I’ve learnt that just because people are in the same building doesn’t mean they’re going to speak to each other. #lrnchat
10:44:10 am StephanieDaul: Q0) This week I’m playing with Articulate…learning lots of cool tricks. #lrnchat
10:44:19 am TriciaRansom: @JaneBozarth That sounds interesting…Storyline that it #lrnchat
10:44:20 am billcush: @janebozarth Creating (from scratch) ppt on iPad or viewing? Both? #lrnchat
10:44:24 am LauraLJ: learned today (or was reminded) how colleagues can be the best therapists when needing to rationalise #lrnchat
10:44:30 am rachelsparrow: @JaneBozarth PP on IPad! #lrnchat
10:44:35 am maritzavdh: Reduce to speed up! T @JudithELS: Q0) I’ve learned this week that I can produce better work when I slow down a bit! #lrnchat #pkflow
10:44:37 am Tina_Barr: RT @rachelsparrow: @JaneBozarth PP on IPad! #lrnchat
10:44:40 am KatieStroudPro: Q0) This week I learned the psychology behind why we use “ahs” and “ums” in our speech. #lrnchat
10:44:44 am simbeckhampson: @maritzavdh Oooh, stress in the office? #lrnchat
10:44:45 am dawnjmahoney: RT @TriciaRansom: Q0) Learned that dept cutting workforce…mainly rat catchers. UGH #lrnchat |wow! beware in summer by the river!
10:44:52 am catherine_delia: @StephanieDaul Me Too! #lrnchat
10:44:53 am JaneBozarth: @billcush both. and editing existing #lrnchat
10:44:53 am TriciaRansom: Q0) I’ve re-introduced myself to the wonders of Captivate 5. #lrnchat
10:44:59 am LauraLJ: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
10:45:01 am megbertapelle: RT @janet_frg: Q0) I learned that @Dave_Ferguson writes great blogs http://bit.ly/huMBUM (okay I already knew it but this one is really good!) #lrnchat
10:45:03 am KristiBroom: Q0) and for @chambo_online, I did learn a new noun/verb: “you can Excel it” #Lrnchat
10:45:07 am LnDDave: Q0) I also confirmed my belief that following backchannels like #LS2011 and #CLOSYM can be very rewarding. #lrnchat
10:45:08 am purplelearning: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
10:45:09 am lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat
10:45:11 am StephanieDaul: RT @JaneBozarth: Q0 Also learned about Storyline, coming soon from Articulate oohhhh, shiny…. <can’t wait to see it> #lrnchat
10:45:14 am MimiBarbara: @KatieStroudPro Um, why? #lrnchat
10:45:16 am anetqedu: Q0) Today I learned that #lrnchat now has a chattime not in the middle of the night. (I still don’t get the info on something AM or EST PST)
10:45:19 am RyanJSegrist: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat
10:45:22 am alc47: Q0 This week I’ve learned in practice what i saw before – how baby elephants learn #lrnchat
10:45:25 am Tina_Barr: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat
10:45:27 am caseywaid: Do tell more abt storylon i luv shiny stuff #lrnchat
10:45:34 am megbertapelle: YAY! :) I wanna check it out 2! :) RT @JaneBozarth: Q0 Also learned abt Storyline, coming soon from Articulate oohhhh, shiny…. #lrnchat
10:45:34 am innerquest: @KatieStroudPro Ahh, right, that, um, sounds really, er, interesiting… #lrnchat
10:45:37 am c4lpt: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat
10:45:38 am derekwwade: @KatieStroudPro Psych behind “um” and “uh”? Interesting! Link please? #lrnchat
10:45:39 am TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat
10:45:39 am billcush: Giddy Up! RT @janebozarth: @billcush both. and editing existing #lrnchat
10:45:42 am LnDDave: @RaphaelHickling I’m working in Brooklyn Raphael – where are you based? #lrnchat
10:45:43 am davidakoontz: @mrch0mp3rs @maritzavdh some studies show that 100 feet in a building might as well be a airplane trip #lrnchat
10:45:43 am MimiBarbara: RT @LnDDave: Amen! Q0) I also confirmed my belief that following backchannels like #LS2011 and #CLOSYM can be very rewarding. #lrnchat
10:45:44 am AndreaMay1: Q0) Learned that polleverywhere.com can have many useful and fun applications. #lrnchat
10:45:47 am web20education: RT @c4lpt: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat
10:45:48 am JaneBozarth: @StephanieDaul We hear ‘game changer’ a lot. Storyline may be it. #lrnchat
10:45:49 am JudithELS: @Tina_Barr Gr8 to see you again too. Like you I’ve missed this weekly quality chat. #lrnchat
10:45:51 am catherine_delia: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat
10:45:52 am chettbradley: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat
10:46:06 am simbeckhampson: @alc47 How do baby elephants learn, Nic? #lrnchat
10:46:17 am MimiBarbara: Q0) I’ve learned following David Kelly’s blog helps me pull together my backchannel comments and thoughts. #lrnchat
10:46:19 am davidakoontz: Q1) none #lrnchat
10:46:21 am JudithELS: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat
10:46:22 am KristiBroom: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #Lrnchat
10:46:29 am billcush: @triciaransom Great. Being productive…having fun. Going skiing this weekend. #lrnchat
10:46:31 am dawnjmahoney: RT @KatieStroudPro Psych behind “um” and “uh”? Interesting! Um.. more info pls! #lrnchat
10:46:32 am LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat
10:46:32 am wls1961: Q1) butts in seats #lrnchat
10:46:33 am katridgely: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat
10:46:40 am roquegus: RT @chettbradley: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat #lrnchat
10:46:43 am StephanieDaul: RT @JaneBozarth: @StephanieDaul We hear game changer a lot. Storyline may be it. <Really. We have someone in the beta group> #lrnchat
10:46:43 am urbie: #lrnchat speaking of things learned today — new iPhone app coming tomorrow — Nexercise — exercise encouragement is good
10:46:50 am MandyRG: #lrnchat Q1) Bums on seats, Rather than changing behaviour. Why bother I say.
10:46:50 am megbertapelle: RT @LnDDave: Q0) I also confirmed my belief that following backchannels like #LS2011 and #CLOSYM can be very rewarding. #lrnchat
10:46:53 am simbeckhampson: @maritzavdh Nail biting, hair pulling – got it, nasty – wish you luck ;) #lrnchat
10:46:55 am megbertapelle: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat
10:47:04 am TriciaRansom: Q1) We did a survey last November… #lrnchat
10:47:10 am MimiBarbara: Q1) We collect the learning standards: Level 1, 2, 3 data. So little Level 4. #lrnchat
10:47:13 am alc47: @simbeckhampson They have a helping trunk when needed but have to take responsibility. Ask @c4lpt #lrnchat
10:47:16 am maritzavdh: Q1) Dare I say it – we don’t collect learning data. We’ve tried, but we’re so busy building learning tools, we don’t get to it. #lrnchat
10:47:20 am KristiBroom: +1 RT @dawnjmahoney: RT @KatieStroudPro Psych behind “um” and “uh”? Interesting! Um.. more info pls! #Lrnchat
10:47:31 am LnDDave: Q0) I also learned that I need to remember to send @MimiBarbara her check – :) Thanks for the comments! #lrnchat
10:47:31 am StephanieDaul: RT @MandyRG: #lrnchat Q1) Bums on seats, Rather than changing behaviour. Why bother I say. #lrnchat
10:47:32 am dbolen: Q0 shouldn’t you be collecting data on business results ? #lrnchat
10:47:33 am urbie: #lrnchat org trying to solve keeping bad people out — collects lots of data (that i can’t talk about)..
10:47:34 am simbeckhampson: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat
10:47:34 am Tina_Barr: @TriciaRansom what format did you use for the survey? #lrnchat
10:47:35 am TriciaRansom: Q1) We do Level 1 for ILT #lrnchat
10:47:42 am LnDDave: RT @wls1961: Q1) butts in seats #lrnchat
10:47:44 am billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat
10:47:52 am barrydahl: Q0) I’ve learned that college employees don’t want to be graded on work performance by A-F scale. It’s OK for students, though. #lrnchat
10:47:57 am sahana2802: Are we wired for mobile learning? #mlearning #workplace_learning #lrnchat http://icio.us/KXGLTu
10:47:57 am catherine_delia: Q1) Collect mostly quantitative data. Num modules, users, completions. Solves, demonstrated compliance regs. #lrnchat
10:47:58 am RyanJSegrist: We seem to try and collect data about what people “should” do as part of public service. #lrnchat
10:48:04 am MimiBarbara: Q0) We collect numbers. What do we then do with the numbers? Not much. Report out. #lrnchat
10:48:04 am Barb_D: #lrnchat New Here. Barb David, ed mgr for NAIOP (association). Resp for content and speakers.
10:48:07 am StephanieDaul: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) We do Level 1 for ILT #lrnchat
10:48:07 am davidakoontz: Q1) I’ve done smile sheets for training classes – with some success – using dot voting on big visible chart #lrnchat
10:48:08 am dawnjmahoney: RT @maritzavdh: Q1)Dare I say it-dont collect learning data. Weve tried, but were so busy building learning tools- dont get to it. #lrnchat
10:48:10 am TriciaRansom: @Tina_Barr Survey Gizmo…a lot like SurveyMonkey #lrnchat
10:48:25 am simbeckhampson: @alc47 Aha, very interesting research, if not a little out of the box ;) #lrnchat
10:48:28 am Tina_Barr: Q1) What do you do with any numbers you do collect? #lrnchat
10:48:31 am InfoAtOCP: Q1) In training salespeople, we measure performance after they have taken the program to determine ROI #lrnchat
10:48:32 am katridgely: #lrnchat Q1) Look at levels 1 and 2, but that’s about it. Send data for clients to review, use the data for improving designs.
10:48:38 am JudithELS: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) We did a survey last November… <We’ve done those too but for clients not for us. #lrnchat
10:48:38 am derekwwade: Q1) Org is trying to change corp process. Data is “# of teams that have attended training” #lrnchat
10:48:44 am billcush: Q1) Collect learning data? Do people have USB ports next to their ears? #lrnchat
10:48:46 am LnDDave: Q1) I collect learning and performance data; in truth, I’m not asked for it, but it’s valued when I share it. #lrnchat
10:49:00 am Tina_Barr: @TriciaRansom I am very familiar with SurveyMonkey (that is our go to) but I love to learn new systems, glad I asked thx! #lrnchat
10:49:01 am dawnjmahoney: Q1) Associate Satisfaction…. (dit dit dit dah–gasp) #lrnchat
10:49:07 am alc47: @simbeckhampson Simply observing community behaviour and applying it #lrnchat
10:49:09 am MimiBarbara: Q0) Don’t think org considers problems to solve but tries to prove activity. #lrnchat
10:49:12 am simbeckhampson: @JudithELS Hi Judith, nice to see you. It’s been a while… #lrnchat
10:49:14 am scogill: #lrnchat we count how many people attend and smile sheet at the end – if we’re good we’ll also conduct a level 2 test
10:49:20 am c4lpt: @simbeckhampson @alc47 Will show you a picture. Hold on will need to get it organised. #lrnchat
10:49:24 am JaneBozarth: Q1 Completion– how many, not necessarily whether right ones completed 1/2 #Lrnchat
10:49:25 am chettbradley: Q1- i work for a prof. assn, so data relates to clinical knowledge gaps and $$ feasible solutions to fill them. #lrnchat
10:49:27 am barrydahl: Q1) state system was building a very good analytics tool for our LMS – but then pulled funding right before it was fully cooked. #lrnchat
10:49:29 am katridgely: #lrnchat Q1) quant and qual data, that is.
10:49:30 am olliegardener: q1) Christ.. I’m in the wrong business. Should have developed a “but detector” :/ #lrnchat
10:49:37 am StephanieDaul: Q1) we just started using Cameo after a class for level 2 #lrnchat
10:49:45 am OpenSesameNow: Q1) We look at time spent on courses/pages; ease of finding what you need. Hope to make UI intuitive. #lrnchat
10:49:46 am chettbradley: keep forgetting to put #lrnchat in my msgs! such a noobie at this!
10:49:48 am ivan_eLearning: RT @sahana2802: Are we wired for mobile learning? #mlearning #workplace_learning #lrnchat http://icio.us/KXGLTu
10:49:49 am anetqedu: Q1) Not much – haven’t got time to document what we do – too busy doing it most of the time… #lrnchat
10:49:52 am atomic_jenna: Q1) Training activity, usage reports on courses #lrnchat
10:49:59 am dawnjmahoney: Q1) Not enough is my real answer. Nor does it truly link to solutions #lrnchat
10:50:00 am TriciaRansom: RT @olliegardener: q1) Christ.. I’m in the wrong business. Should have developed a “but detector” :/ #lrnchat
10:50:05 am c4lpt: Q1) We don’t collect learning data – because it’s a meaningless activity. We are only interested in performance data #lrnchat
10:50:20 am Tina_Barr: RT @dawnjmahoney: Q1) Not enough is my real answer. Nor does it truly link to solutions #lrnchat SAME!
10:50:20 am dbolen: RT @C4LPT: Q1) We don’t collect learning data – because it’s a meaningless activity. We are only interested in performance data #lrnchat yes
10:50:25 am kelly_smith01: Q1) Most of the time (it seems) a company lacks the money, time, or expertise to capture and “ise” learning evaluation data. #lrnchat
10:50:30 am chettbradley: Q1- as for how well we fill said gaps w/ our programs…let’s just say we’re still building those metrics. ;) #lrnchat
10:50:39 am buckinsand: RT: @C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat #lak11
10:50:41 am billcush: Q1) Problem 1: Run training more efficiently, so we collect cost per hour of ISD time and time it takes to dev training. #lrnchat
10:50:43 am StephanieDaul: Q1) Mainly how many courses we delivered and how many took the online stuff #lrnchat
10:50:44 am edCetraTraining: Q1) collecting data is one thing,but i’m not sure that the ultimate question of what problem they are trying to solve is answered. #lrnchat
10:50:45 am barrydahl: Q1) data from LMS would have been used as early warning 4 struggling students, w/interventions to try to bring them back to success #lrnchat
10:50:47 am LearningGrump: @lrnchat hello all, am fleeting in and out this afternoon. Apologies. #lrnchat
10:50:48 am KatieStroudPro: @dawnjmahoney @DerekWWade @innerquest @mimibarbara Um it started when Mom said WHO BROKE IT!? You needed time to think so said um #lrnchat
10:51:02 am katridgely: RT @c4lpt: Q1) We don’t collect learning data – because it’s a meaningless activity. We are only interested in performance data #lrnchat
10:51:02 am krueger: RT @c4lpt: Q1) We don’t collect learning data – because it’s a meaningless activity. We are only interested in performance data #lrnchat
10:51:05 am bayuadhitya: RT @c4lpt: Q1) We don’t collect learning data – because it’s a meaningless activity. We are only interested in performance data #lrnchat
10:51:21 am JaneBozarth: @chettbradley try tweetchat.com — it will add the hashtag #lrnchat
10:51:22 am maritzavdh: Would love to stay and chat more, but alas. Life is calling. Keep the faith in learning, all. #lrnchat
10:51:24 am MimiBarbara: RT@C4LPT:Nice!!! Q1) We dont collect learning data – because its a meaningless activity. We are only interested in performance data #lrnchat
10:51:26 am adfunkster: #lrnchat Collecting subjective information (not real data) did staff change behavior? Did student performance improve.
10:51:31 am LnDDave: Q1) Org asks about activity, but cares about performance. They have grown to see me as the bridge between the 2 #lrnchat
10:51:33 am TriciaRansom: Q1) I think often the problem we (as L&D professionals) are trying to solve is justifying our existence #lrnchat
10:51:50 am JaneBozarth: Q1 one year we had 2,000 more people complete online new hire orientation than we actually hired. Success!! #lrnchat
10:51:59 am JaneBozarth: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) I think often the problem we (as L&D professionals) are trying to solve is justifying our existence #lrnchat
10:52:07 am RyanJSegrist: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1 one year we had 2,000 more people complete online new hire orientation than we actually hired. Success!! #lrnchat
10:52:10 am InfoAtOCP: RT @LnDDave: Q1) Org asks about activity, but cares about performance. They have grown to see me as the bridge between the 2 #lrnchat
10:52:11 am billcush: Q1) Problem 2: NH Time to Proficiency: How long does it take a NH to meet performance goals..sales, calls per hour, etc #lrnchat
10:52:12 am dawnjmahoney: @KatieStroudPro Huh. How much did this course cost again? (I want in on that action!) <wink, nudge, grin> #lrnchat
10:52:18 am JudithELS: Q1) My experience is that only L&D people take any notice of learning data #lrnchat
10:52:22 am KristiBroom: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) I think often the problem we (as L&D professionals) are trying to solve is justifying our existence #Lrnchat
10:52:24 am alc47: RT @katridgely: Q1) dont collect learning data – its a meaningless activity. We are only interested in performance data #lrnchat
10:52:33 am OpenSesameNow: I think @CharlieSheen is working on this RT @olliegardener q1) Christ. I’m in wrong business. Should have developed “butt detector” #lrnchat
10:52:34 am scogill: #lrnchat Q1) problem we’re trying to fix is how to get our training content to the right people – role based learning paths in our future
10:52:34 am simbeckhampson: Collecting data is not meaningless if your purpose is to extract the a synthesis which can be better used to affect performance. #lrnchat
10:52:35 am katridgely: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) I think often the problem we (as L&D professionals) are trying to solve is justifying our existence #lrnchat
10:52:44 am LnDDave: Q1) Honestly, I have very little interest in the reports I get from my LMS; why should I expect anyone else to? #lrnchat
10:52:47 am TriciaRansom: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1 one year we had 2,000 more people complete online new hire orientation than we actually hired. Success!! #lrnchat
10:52:48 am billcush: Q1) Problem 3: Increase revenues. How to help sales people sell better, more, etc. #lrnchat
10:52:51 am dawnjmahoney: RT @c4lpt: Q1) We dont collect learning data – because its a meaningless activity. We are only interested in perf data|Agree! #lrnchat
10:53:00 am StephanieDaul: RT @JudithELS: Q1) My experience is that only L&D people take any notice of learning data <needs to be biz data for ppl to see it> #lrnchat
10:53:01 am MimiBarbara: RT @JudithELS: So true! Q1) My experience is that only L&D people take any notice of learning data #lrnchat
10:53:03 am cahlan: #lrnchat Q1) we try to help clients gather content data & survey data for finding insights about online course usage and attitudes
10:53:09 am anetqedu: Q1) But we collect lots of teaching data… completion, on-time, delayed, hours etc. All part of our funding model w. the state #lrnchat
10:53:10 am LnDDave: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) I think often the problem we (as L&D professionals) are trying to solve is justifying our existence #lrnchat
10:53:21 am JaneBozarth: RT @JudithELS: So true! Q1) My experience is that only L&D people take any notice of learning data #lrnchat
10:53:27 am Tina_Barr: RT @anetqedu: Q1) But we collect lots of teaching data… completion, on-time, delayed, hours etc. All part of our funding model w. the state #lrnchat
10:53:34 am JaneBozarth: Really surprising info coming out in #lrnchat this morning…
10:53:39 am billcush: Funny! RT @barrydahl: Q0) ..learned that college emps don’t want to be graded on work perf by A-F scale. OK for students, though. #lrnchat
10:53:46 am dawnjmahoney: RT @MimiBarbara: RT @JudithELS: So true! Q1) My experience is that only L&D people take any notice of learning data #lrnchat
10:54:06 am RyanJSegrist: Q1 How does one quantify ethical behavior in a measurable way? Counting mere compliance doesn’t work. I keep running into that #lrnchat
10:54:15 am billcush: Yep RT @c4lpt: Q1) We don’t collect learning data – because it’s a meaningless activity. We are only interested in performance data #lrnchat
10:54:20 am InfoAtOCP: Q1) The key to collecting data is asking questions that measure the programs objective, otherwise wasted activity #lrnchat
10:54:24 am anetqedu: RT @LnDDave: Q1) Honestly, I have very little interest in the reports I get from my LMS; why should I expect anyone else to? #lrnchat
10:54:25 am mrch0mp3rs: RT @RyanJSegrist: Q1 How does one quantify ethical behavior in a measurable way? Counting mere compliance doesn’t work. I keep running into that #lrnchat
10:54:26 am simbeckhampson: Making sense of the data is work. Collective intelligence is the future. Combining AI and HI. #insights feed #success #lrnchat
10:54:27 am LearningGrump: @lrnchat Q1, I don’t even have an LMS. I should, but as a one man team I have enough to get on with.
10:54:32 am alc47: RT @JudithELS: Q1) My experience is that only L&D people take any notice of learning data #lrnchat
10:54:34 am adfunkster: RT @LnDDave: Q1) Honestly, I have very little interest in the reports I get from my LMS; why should I expect anyone else to? #lrnchat
10:54:35 am c4lpt: Q1) Course completions, happy sheets, etc tell you very little . What counts is can people do their jobs (better) #lrnchat
10:54:46 am caseywaid: We use lrn data for marketing our trning #lrnchat
10:54:48 am LnDDave: Q1) I rarely share data. I collect data so I can tell a credible story. #lrnchat
10:54:48 am scogill: @MimiBarbara @JudithELS we’ve had success lately getting sales mgrs to look @ data, so far all they care for is time spent training #lrnchat
10:54:51 am Tina_Barr: RT @InfoAtOCP: Q1) The key 2 collecting data is asking ?s that measure the programs objective, otherwise wasted activity #lrnchat AGREE
10:54:53 am flowersprof: Q1) We also collect data on what % of time trainers are spending against key activities, e.g. delivery, perf suppt #lrnchat
10:54:53 am JaneBozarth: @RyanJSegrist well, that goes back to whether ethics can be ‘taught’, maybe? #lrnchat
10:55:06 am StephanieDaul: RT @c4lpt: Q1) Course completions, happy sheets, etc tell you very little . What counts is can people do their jobs (better) #lrnchat
10:55:07 am cahlan: #lrnchat learning data is important, but only as it connects to performance data. We want to solve for better perf. by improving learning
10:55:12 am alc47: RT @c4lpt: Q1) Course completions, happy sheets, etc tell you very little . What counts is can people do their jobs (better) #lrnchat
10:55:23 am LearningGrump: @lrnchat Q1 and I started to use evaluation sheets until I realised only I was caring about them. No one has asked me for them, even my boss
10:55:29 am simbeckhampson: RT @LnDDave: Q1) I rarely share data. I collect data so I can tell a credible story. < point in case… #lrnchat
10:55:30 am JudithELS: RT @c4lpt: Q1) Course completions, happy sheets, etc tell you very little . What counts is can people do their jobs (better) <Yes #lrnchat
10:55:32 am OpenSesameNow: RT @c4lpt: Q1) We don’t collect learning data – because it’s a meaningless activity. We are only interested in performance data #lrnchat
10:55:33 am dawnjmahoney: RT@RyanJSegrist:Q1 How does 1 quantify ethical behavior n measurable way? Counting mere compliance doesnt work-keep running into it #lrnchat
10:55:42 am Jeffrey_Furtado: Jeffrey Furtado, Project Manager #edcetratraining.com, Toronto ON – hello all #lrnchat
10:55:55 am catherine_delia: So what is learning data, really? #lrnchat
10:56:06 am lress: RT @c4lpt: Q1) We don’t collect learning data – because it’s a meaningless activity. We are only interested in performance data #lrnchat
10:56:15 am TheBobPikeGroup: RT @LnDDave: Q1) Org asks about activity, but cares about performance. They have grown to see me as the bridge between the 2 #lrnchat
10:56:18 am RyanJSegrist: @JaneBozarth You’re right. Sheesh, this ethics & learning business begs one question after another. #lrnchat
10:56:20 am Tina_Barr: Q1) Learning data is only really valuable if you are able to adjust given the analytics. Otherwise, why do it? #lrnchat
10:56:25 am KristiBroom: Good question RT @catherine_delia: So what is learning data, really? #Lrnchat
10:56:27 am InfoAtOCP: RT @catherine_delia: So what is learning data, really? #lrnchat <-good question!
10:56:27 am TriciaRansom: Good question! RT @catherine_delia: So what is learning data, really? #lrnchat
10:56:31 am Barb_D: @Jeffrey_Furtado Hi Jeffrey #lrnchat
10:56:44 am chrstphr_adams: Q1) If more learning pros would care about business data, more business pros would care about learning data. #lrnchat
10:56:46 am adfunkster: how to measure this? RT @c4lpt: Q1) …….. What counts is can people do their jobs (better) #lrnchat
10:56:56 am InfoAtOCP: RT @Tina_Barr: Q1) Learning data is only really valuable if you are able to adjust given the analytics. Otherwise, why do it? #lrnchat <True
10:57:06 am Jeffrey_Furtado: Q1) – Agreed. Data is collected, but how many follow up #lrnchat
10:57:07 am TheSkyHighGuy: #lrnchat Q)0 – I learned that practice and persistence can help you win the Kerry & Limerick round toastmasters international speech contest
10:57:07 am scogill: #lrnchat Q1) does L&D have insight to performance data or do we have to rely on the business? learning data is in our control to collect
10:57:10 am 2GFred: RT @JaneBozarth: Really surprising info coming out in #lrnchat this morning… #lrnchat
10:57:10 am OpenSesameNow: RT @chrstphr_adams: Q1) If more learning pros would care about business data, more business pros would care about learning data. #lrnchat
10:57:13 am TriciaRansom: Q1) As a recovering Type A Consultant, I can honestly tell you I can spin any data to tell the story I want to tell…not reality #lrnchat
10:57:17 am KristiBroom: Q1) I’m watching all the tweets and wondering if we are suffering from data admiration. #Lrnchat
10:57:22 am katridgely: RT @catherine_delia: So what is learning data, really? #lrnchat
10:57:24 am rachelsparrow: @alc47 @c4lpt totally agree Nic – proof is in the pudding! #lrnchat
10:57:28 am LauraLJ: RT @OpenSesameNow: RT @c4lpt: Q1) We don’t collect learning data – because it’s a meaningless activity. We are only interested in performance data #lrnchat
10:57:28 am KatieStroudPro: Q1) I’m a consultant now, so my reply is…It depends! #lrnchat
10:57:32 am RyanJSegrist: RT @KristiBroom: Q1) I’m watching all the tweets and wondering if we are suffering from data admiration. #Lrnchat
10:57:33 am Jeffrey_Furtado: @Barb_D @Jeffrey_Furtado – Hello Barb D #lrnchat
10:57:36 am derekwwade: RT @LnDDave: Q1) Org asks about activity, but cares about performance. They have grown to see me as the bridge between the 2 #lrnchat
10:57:46 am dawnjmahoney: RT @JudithELS Sales mgrs comment-this is hilarious-they breathe data! #lrnchat
10:58:09 am dawnjmahoney: @RyanJSegrist @KristiBroom yes #lrnchat
10:58:09 am alc47: RT RT @chrstphr_adams: Q1) If learning pros would care about business data, more business pros would care about learning data. #lrnchat
10:58:14 am 2GFred: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat
10:58:17 am Barb_D: (q1) whats the diff between learning data and performance data? #lrnchat
10:58:53 am LnDDave: Q1) I’m always amazed by the amount of data that is collected, and never used. Be brave enough to stop if it doesn’t make sense. #lrnchat
10:59:04 am alc47: @Barb_D There should be no diff between learning data and performance data #lrnchat
10:59:08 am MimiBarbara: @Barb_D Learning data is knowledge-based. Performance data is how the learning application impacted business metrics. #lrnchat
10:59:12 am adfunkster: #lrnchat I think we have to start with the question what is the purpose of data. That will help define what the data is we should collect.
10:59:15 am TriciaRansom: Q1) I think often its difficult for us to have access to performance data…IT silos, dept. silos, mng silos #lrnchat
10:59:15 am Barb_D: and does the data collected vary depending on if it is an internal vs external training? #lrnchat
10:59:18 am scogill: RT @LnDDave: Q1) I’m always amazed by the amount of data that is collected, and never used. Be brave enough to stop if it doesn’t make sense. #lrnchat
10:59:35 am dawnjmahoney: @RyanJSegrist @KristiBroom But to fund projects etc need the data-good & bad #lrnchat
10:59:36 am AndreaMay1: q1) Does the business simply want compliance data, or actual evidence of improvement through training? #lrnchat
10:59:36 am StephanieDaul: Q1) with the data we collect (butts in seats) we are trying to justify your being here #lrnchat
10:59:41 am OpenSesameNow: @barb_d Learning data measures engagement/participation/success in learning process. Perf. data measures in the on-the-job context. #lrnchat
10:59:41 am katridgely: RT @adfunkster: #lrnchat I think we have to start with the question what is the purpose of data. That will help define what the data is we should collect.
10:59:50 am krueger: RT@Barb_D Barb David (q1) whats the diff between learning data and performance data? | Should be the same! #lrnchat
10:59:50 am scogill: @LnDDave #lrnchat I had that problem in a previous role, no one used my data so I stopped the endless excel spreadsheet reports!
10:59:55 am npmaven: RT @alc47: @Barb_D There should be no diff between learning data and performance data #lrnchat
10:59:59 am tenartemis: Kristen, Orlando, unemployed trainer Q1) is completion data, learning data? #lrnchat
11:00:03 am jeffreytaekman: RT @Callooh: Visual Storytelling: Interview with Nancy Duarte, – http://goo.gl/y86AD #lrnchat #elearning
11:00:09 am JaneBozarth: DUH y’all that’s what cardboard boxes are for. A place to put the data after we print it out. #lrnchat
11:00:18 am adfunkster: RT @AndreaMay1: q1) Does the business simply want compliance data, or actual evidence of improvement through training? #lrnchat
11:00:24 am JaneBozarth: Gloria Gery: “Why don’t we just weigh them?” #lrnchat
11:00:25 am mrch0mp3rs: RT @tenartemis: Kristen, Orlando, unemployed trainer Q1) is completion data, learning data? #lrnchat
11:00:27 am catherine_delia: RT @npmaven: RT @alc47: @Barb_D There should be no diff between learning data and performance data #lrnchat
11:00:27 am chettbradley: RT @chrstphr_adams: “Q1) If more learning pros would care about business… ” for us not in priv. enterprise that doesn’t hold up #lrnchat
11:00:28 am kelly_smith01: Q1) Sometime learning data is used as a “performance measure” for trainers, ISDers, etc. #lrnchat
11:00:37 am alc47: @OpenSesameNow @barb_d Not sure about the assertion of success – can only be measured in workplace performance #lrnchat
11:00:39 am Barb_D: @OpenSesameNow so for external customers, perf data is more difficult to collect #lrnchat
11:00:40 am KristiBroom: Q1) I also think that sometimes because data collection can be automated, it’s easy to keep it “just in case.” #Lrnchat
11:00:41 am LnDDave: Q1) Ever notice that orgs ask for data from external vendors that they don’t ask for internally? #Hypocrisy #lrnchat
11:00:47 am JudithELS: RT @JaneBozarth: DUH yall thats what cardboard boxes are for. A place to put the data after we print it out <LOL #lrnchat
11:00:53 am dgeaston: RT @simbeckhampson: Making sense of the data is work. Collective intelligence is the future. Combining AI and HI. #insights feed #success #lrnchat
11:00:58 am mrch0mp3rs: RT @LnDDave: Q1) Ever notice that orgs ask for data from external vendors that they don’t ask for internally? #Hypocrisy #lrnchat
11:00:59 am LnDDave: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) I think often its difficult for us to have access to performance data…IT silos, dept. silos, mng silos #lrnchat
11:01:05 am LearningGrump: Hmm. Just had an interesting notion from #lrnchat regarding data collection and reporting.
11:01:09 am JaneBozarth: YES RT @LnDDave: Q1) Ever notice that orgs ask for data from external vendors that they dont ask for internally? #Hypocrisy #lrnchat
11:01:09 am alc47: RT @JaneBozarth: Gloria Gery: “Why dont we just weigh them?” Brilliant – about as much use!! #lrnchat
11:01:09 am sahana2802: Mobile learning 101 by Judy Brown #mlearning #workplace_learning #lrnchat http://icio.us/LHbElt
11:01:10 am StephanieDaul: RT @kelly_smith01: Q1) Sometime learning data is used as a “performance measure” for trainers, ISDers, etc. #lrnchat
11:01:45 am lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:01:45 am OpenSesameNow: @alc47 @Barb_D Agreed! I meant success measured in learning through “quiz/assessment”; did not mean to imply actual measurement. #lrnchat
11:01:59 am Tina_Barr: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:02:06 am 2GFred: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:02:08 am TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:02:08 am MimiBarbara: RT @OpenSesameNow: Lrng data measures engagement/participation/success in learning process. Perf. data measures on-the-job context. #lrnchat
11:02:11 am RyanJSegrist: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:02:15 am alc47: @StephanieDaul @kelly_smith01 Really – I need to be convinced #lrnchat
11:02:16 am chettbradley: RE: @chrstphr_adams probably true for “training” but for PD we need the org to recognize the trends we spot in order to lead prof. #lrnchat
11:02:24 am JaneBozarth: Q2 Lord yes. #lrnchat
11:02:27 am dawnjmahoney: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:02:28 am JudithELS: RT @kelly_smith01: Q1) Sometime learning data is used as a “performance measure” for trainers, ISDers, etc. <As with teachers! #lrnchat
11:02:28 am billcush: Tweet of the day. RT @lnddave: Q1) Ever notice that orgs ask for data from vendors that they don’t ask for internally? #Hypocrisy #lrnchat
11:02:29 am catherine_delia: We need to track compliance, which is just evidence of completion for the regulatory and accreditation agencies. #lrnchat
11:02:37 am LnDDave: @scogill Oooo, I hate the Excel Export. I’ve actually caught cheats there. (HINT: The LMS won’t misspell COMPLETED) #lrnchat
11:02:39 am Barb_D: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:02:39 am KristiBroom: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #Lrnchat
11:02:40 am Tina_Barr: Q2) anonymity is not always ethical but if info is not it can create ethical issues #lrnchat
11:02:42 am c4lpt: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:02:45 am KatieStroudPro: Q1) no. 1 purpose for collecting learning data in my space is to measure increased revenue. #lrnchat
11:02:46 am JudithELS: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:02:51 am LearningGrump: @lrnchat Hmm. I don’t think so. It’s as ethical as collecting Census data. #lrnchat
11:02:53 am TriciaRansom: Q2) I know that there may sometimes be issues w/how it’s used especially for people in unions. #lrnchat
11:02:55 am MimiBarbara: RT @KristiBroom: Q1) I also think that sometimes because data collection can be automated, its easy to keep it “just in case.” #lrnchat
11:02:56 am JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:02:58 am LauraLJ: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:02:59 am StephanieDaul: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:02:59 am alc47: @OpenSesameNow So what does that prove – that people are good at quizzes! #lrnchat
11:03:06 am katridgely: #lrnchat Q1) learning data is also used as a mktng for business. “Telling” with learn data is easier than “showing” with perf. data
11:03:06 am chettbradley: RT @Barb_D: and does the data collected vary depending on if it is an internal vs external training? #lrnchat Very much so i think!
11:03:09 am solveh: Q1) completion data for compliance documentation, plus happy sheets #lrnchat
11:03:11 am LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:03:16 am catherine_delia: Learning data and performance efficiencies is another beast entirely. #lrnchat
11:03:17 am gjcannon: Q1) L&D reports on what it can measure and what it can directly attribute to itself which isn’t bottom line performance. #lrnchat
11:03:21 am katridgely: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:03:24 am dgeaston: RT @c4lpt: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What learning data does your org collect? Why? What problem is org trying to solve? #lrnchat
11:03:25 am JaneBozarth: I have seen the data used for harm/to punish. #lrnchat
11:03:26 am kelly_smith01: Q1) I think Level 1 “smile” sheets are used more to satisfy the customer (they think we care) than improve the product #lrnchat
11:03:32 am LearningGrump: @lrnchat Q2 I guess it’s more about how the data is used like @TriciaRansom has just said #lrnchat
11:03:34 am KatieStroudPro: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:03:34 am billcush: And thats the only data L&D pros should get…RT @triciaransom: Q1) Its difficult to get perf data > silos, dept. silos, mng silos #lrnchat
11:03:45 am InfoAtOCP: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat <-Are the ethical issues in how you use the data?
11:03:45 am OpenSesameNow: @alc47 That’s what I mean, yes. I did not say it was a useful measure. #lrnchat
11:03:48 am TriciaRansom: Q2) It depends on what data you’re collecting. If it’s name, age, race, gender, and test scores you are a lawyer’s dream! #lrnchat
11:03:49 am JaneBozarth: Also data gathered in such a way as to skew perception. #lrnchat
11:03:52 am dawnjmahoney: RT @billcush: Tweet of the day. RT @lnddave: back to justification again #lrnchat
11:03:53 am billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:03:54 am Tina_Barr: RT @kelly_smith01: Q1) I think Level 1 “smile” sheets R used more 2 satisfy the customer (they think we care) than improve product #lrnchat
11:03:59 am RyanJSegrist: Q2 If the data are anonymous, does the issue go away? (Pardon the Platonic Dialogic reponses today ;) #lrnchat
11:04:03 am mrch0mp3rs: Q2) There are all sorts of ethical issues with collecting learning data. Starting with who’s collecting it; what data; what purpose #lrnchat
11:04:09 am LnDDave: RT @JaneBozarth: I have seen the data used for harm/to punish. #lrnchat
11:04:14 am anetqedu: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:04:26 am KatieStroudPro: RT @InfoAtOCP: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat <-Are the ethical issues in how you use the data?
11:04:28 am JudithELS: RT @JaneBozarth: I have seen the data used for harm/to punish. <Yes, me too, & sadly all too often #lrnchat
11:04:30 am JaneBozarth: @mrch0mp3rs and who has access to it, and why. #lrnchat
11:04:32 am katridgely: #lrnchat Q2) too easy to spin! you might need to actually change a design but someone might spin it to make it look good – learner loses
11:04:35 am chettbradley: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:04:52 am OpenSesameNow: RT @billcush: And that’s only data L&D should get..RT @triciaransom Its difficult to get perf data > silos, dept. silos, mng silos #lrnchat
11:04:56 am StephanieDaul: Q2) you have to ask why you are collecting data #lrnchat
11:04:57 am _Kavi: Later entry is entry nevertheless ! #lrnchat
11:04:58 am cahlan: Q2) It boils down to being good stewards of data. Data by itself is not nefarious. #lrnchat
11:05:01 am chettbradley: RT @JaneBozarth: Q2 Lord yes. #lrnchat
11:05:08 am JaneBozarth: Are there ethical implications to collecting data that is never used or analyzed? #lrnchat
11:05:15 am mrch0mp3rs: Q2) That said, I’m VERY CLEARLY in support of generalized capture of a person’s experience with content. Check @LrnEXP on why. #lrnchat
11:05:15 am adfunkster: Q2) #lrnchat yes – depending on intended and actual use of the data collected.
11:05:18 am buckinsand: RT: @C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat #lak11
11:05:20 am _Kavi: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat
11:05:20 am scogill: #lrnchat Q2) I see no harm in collecting the data- but when all you have is #s you can present ‘em just to show what YOU want them to see
11:05:22 am 2GFred: Q2) Ethical issues arise from what you do or DON’T do with information. Is learning data turned into information? #lrnchat
11:05:23 am Tina_Barr: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q2) Starting with who’s collecting it; what data; what purpose #lrnchat (Agree with WHO/purpose ++ how collected)
11:05:23 am chettbradley: Q2 Where do we begin with that one…? #lrnchat
11:05:26 am JaneBozarth: @katridgely yes too much spin #lrnchat
11:05:32 am MimiBarbara: RT @cahlan: So true! Q2) It boils down to being good stewards of data. Data by itself is not nefarious. #lrnchat
11:05:34 am katridgely: RT @cahlan: Q2) It boils down to being good stewards of data. Data by itself is not nefarious. #lrnchat
11:05:37 am TriciaRansom: Q2) Look at that BP employee who lost a laptop w/gulf resident’s SSN, names, etc. What’s your storage protocol? #lrnchat
11:05:37 am AndreaMay1: @catherine_delia That’s by far the easiest training outcome to track #lrnchat
11:05:37 am JaneBozarth: RT @chettbradley: Q2 Where do we begin with that one…? #lrnchat
11:05:37 am LnDDave: Q2) Any time data is collected without a set plan for it’s use, you’re opening the door to ethical issues. #lrnchat
11:05:41 am c4lpt: Q2) Yes, because assumptions can be made on flimsy evidence #lrnchat
11:05:51 am katridgely: @JaneBozarth good point! #lrnchat
11:05:52 am KristiBroom: RT @2GFred: Q2) Ethical issues arise from what you do or DONT do with information. Is learning data turned into information? #Lrnchat
11:05:55 am urbie: #lrnchat ethical issues in collecting learning data? nope, so long as you use it for good and not evil (thank you Maxwell Smart)..
11:05:59 am StephanieDaul: RT @LnDDave: Q2) Any time data is collected without a set plan for its use, youre opening the door to ethical issues. #lrnchat
11:06:09 am alc47: RT @chettbradley: Q2 Where do we begin with that one…? Not sure – seems irrelevant to me #lrnchat
11:06:14 am JaneBozarth: Right. Evidence is not proof. RT @c4lpt: Q2) Yes, because assumptions can be made on flimsy evidence #lrnchat
11:06:16 am dawnjmahoney: Q2) Yes. I get LMS report requests all of the time for the carrot/stick of performance #lrnchat
11:06:16 am Barb_D: Q2 we need age, gender info when doing a needs assessment.. helps us understand our market and who we are reaching. #lrnchat
11:06:23 am kelly_smith01: Q2) Does the company seperate learning data from performance evaluation and do the make it clear to everyone. #lrnchat
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11:06:35 am dawnjmahoney: RT @JaneBozarth: Right. Evidence is not proof. RT @c4lpt: Q2) Yes, because assumptions can be made on flimsy evidence #lrnchat
11:06:38 am mrch0mp3rs: Q2) How do you audit/guarantee that the data will be used for the purposes intended or afforded in ways that protect the ind? #lrnchat
11:06:47 am billcush: Q2) Those issues could be reduced/elim if L&D pros had access to same reports as ops leaders..sales, CSat, costs, etc #lrnchat
11:06:48 am RyanJSegrist: Q2 Privacy isn’t the only issue. Misuse or falsification of data could be a problem too. #lrnchat
11:06:49 am JaneBozarth: Also re ethics of data, like child’s ‘permanent record’– how long kept, how long followed on particular employee? #lrnchat
11:06:53 am mrch0mp3rs: Q2) Who owns the data once its been collected? #lrnchat
11:07:02 am chettbradley: Q2 for health profs. lrning/pract. data can result in continued/revoked license to practice. So YES there are ethics involved #lrnchat
11:07:15 am LnDDave: Q2) Honesty Regarding Lvl1- is it ethical to tell someone their opinions matter when in truth the data is not changing anything? #lrnchat
11:07:28 am _Kavi: Q2) When learning data is used for ‘promotion’ recommendation, it still isnt ethical. IMHO #lrnchat
11:07:31 am alc47: @kelly_smith01 That makes more sense as a question – if data collected is related to performance can there be ethical issues? #lrnchat
11:07:33 am solveh: Q2) all data collection has been verified & cleared w/ authorities & unions. Clearly defined usage & purpose! Transparency helps #lrnchat
11:07:40 am RyanJSegrist: RT @_Kavi: Q2) When learning data is used for ‘promotion’ recommendation, it still isnt ethical. IMHO #lrnchat
11:07:44 am cahlan: Q2) btw, check out “Web analysts code of ethics”, interesting read: http://bit.ly/ev5qxg #lrnchat
11:07:49 am _Kavi: RT @dawnjmahoney: Q2) Yes. I get LMS report requests all of the time for the carrot/stick of performance #lrnchat
11:07:56 am Barb_D: @RyanJSegrist: Q2 Privacy isnt the only issue. Misuse or falsification of data could be a problem too. <EW falsification of data… #lrnchat
11:08:03 am TriciaRansom: Q2) If you collect this data, such as age, gender, etc. for needs assessment, what happens if those ppl sue org (Walmart) #lrnchat
11:08:07 am leavittm: @chettbradley also implications for healthcare employers – continued/denied accreditation, fines #lrnchat
11:08:10 am OpenSesameNow: Q2) This is a depressing question & answer set. Does anyone’s org have ethics policies on this stuff that they could share? #lrnchat
11:08:13 am LnDDave: RT @JaneBozarth: Are there ethical implications to collecting data that is never used or analyzed? #lrnchat <Could have just RTed this…
11:08:13 am AndreaMay1: RT @JaneBozarth: I have seen the data used for harm/to punish. #lrnchat Me too – those organizations are NOT pleasant places to be .
11:08:14 am JaneBozarth: What about learners who don’t know what we collect/ what we have access to and keep? It’s become the Panopticon in many ways… #lrnchat
11:08:19 am katridgely: Data can be so misleading – take “Mars Needs Moms”. Thought the data showed audiences would love it. Wrong! Off subj., but relates #lrnchat
11:08:21 am gjcannon: Q2) not doing something at all with the data is potentially an ethical issue. Status quo, no smoke without fire etc #lrnchat
11:08:32 am RyanJSegrist: @Barb_D That’s what I say too! Boo cold fusion!! #lrnchat
11:08:38 am _Kavi: Q1) My first question…Does the learner know that data about his learning is being collected ? #lrnchat
11:08:38 am KatieStroudPro: Q2) …it depends ;-) #lrnchat but seriously, what is collected, how it’s stored, how it’s used & what “learners” know about the process
11:08:39 am chettbradley: RT @InfoAtOCP: Q2) Are there ethical issues in collecting learning data? #lrnchat <-Are the ethical issues in how you use the data?
11:08:45 am barrydahl: Q2) Maybe the Q should be – is it unethical to sit on this mountain of student learning data and do nothing with it? #lrnchat
11:08:56 am JaneBozarth: http://bozarthzone.blogspot.com/2009/02/e-learning-and-panopticon.html #lrnchat
11:08:58 am simbeckhampson: Q2) btw, check out “Web analysts code of ethics”, interesting read: http://bit.ly/ev5qxg #lrnchat
11:09:01 am chettbradley: RT @JaneBozarth: Also data gathered in such a way as to skew perception. #lrnchat
11:09:06 am _Kavi: Q2) My first question…Does the learner know that data about his learning is being collected ? #lrnchat
11:09:15 am Tina_Barr: RT @barrydahl: Q2) mayB the Q shld B – is it unethical 2 sit on mountain of student learning data & do nothing w/ it? #lrnchat Agree! :-)
11:09:31 am cahlan: Q2) in summary, points are 1. keep data secure, 2. full disclosure, 3. allow user opt-out, 4. accountability http://bit.ly/ev5qxg #lrnchat
11:09:33 am chettbradley: RT @JaneBozarth: Also data gathered in such a way as to skew perception. #lrnchat All too often – hence the “ethics”
11:09:35 am LnDDave: Q2) Ethical concerns are one reason I don’t share ‘data’ unless specifically asked for. I share stories based on my data. #lrnchat
11:09:44 am katridgely: @barrydahl I think it depends on what the data is really saying. Guess you won’t know til you climb down the mtn. #lrnchat
11:09:44 am billcush: Q2) “There are so many stocks to analyze, where does one begin?” Warren Buffet’s reply, “Begin with the letter A.” #lrnchat
11:09:45 am TriciaRansom: Q2) Giving people opt-out rights is ethical…as long as clearly explain whats collected, why, how used/stored/accessed. #lrnchat
11:09:55 am mrch0mp3rs: Q2) The sitting on the data is a problem. Lifecycle mgmt of data always an issue. Think about your Gmail. I just deleted 2005. #lrnchat
11:09:55 am RussMK: @_Kavi #lrnchat absolutely there are, may be regulatory ones in some countries (EU) as well.
11:10:01 am npmaven: RT @LnDDave: Q2) Ethical concerns are one reason I dont share data unless specifically asked for. I share stories based on my data. #lrnchat
11:10:03 am RyanJSegrist: Q2 In terms of terribleness, which is worse: Collecting data and not using it? or NOT collecting potentially useful data? #lrnchat
11:10:12 am katridgely: RT @TriciaRansom: Q2) Giving people opt-out rights is ethical…as long as clearly explain whats collected, why, how used/stored/accessed. #lrnchat
11:10:19 am Barb_D: RT @cahlan: Q2) in summary, points are 1. keep data secure, 2. full disclosure, 3. allow user opt-out, 4. accountability < Nice #lrnchat
11:10:19 am npmaven: RT @TriciaRansom: Q2) Giving people opt-out rights is ethical… clearly explain whats collected, why, how used/stored/accessed. #lrnchat
11:10:36 am jennystaley: RT @barrydahl: Q2) Maybe the Q should be – is it unethical to sit on this mountain of student learning data and do nothing with it? #lrnchat
11:10:36 am JaneBozarth: RT @mrch0mp3rs sitting on the data is a problem. Lifecycle mgmt of data always an issue.Think about your Gmail.I just deleted 2005. #lrnchat
11:10:44 am dawnladams: Who needs evidence to make assump? Usually only 1 comment. RT @C4LPT: Q2) Yes, because assumptions can be made on flimsy evidence. #lrnchat
11:10:45 am mrch0mp3rs: Q2) Here’s the other side of the coin: fear of the ethical issues resulting in avoidance doesn’t change the problem set #lrnchat
11:10:49 am LauraLJ: @janebozarth There are lies, damned lies and statistics #lrnchat
11:11:08 am LauraLJ: Q2) ethical issues with collecting learning data? only if misused #lrnchat
11:11:09 am RyanJSegrist: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q2) Here’s the other side of the coin: fear of the ethical issues resulting in avoidance doesn’t change the problem #lrnchat
11:11:14 am KristiBroom: Q2) do we ever know about all the data collected on us? Clicks on websites, satellite images. The ethics question goes beyond lrng #Lrnchat
11:11:15 am mrch0mp3rs: Q2) Also, worth noting, this is a very hard problem for which there will likely be no universal solution. #lrnchat
11:11:17 am npmaven: @barrydahl: Q2) Maybe the Q should be – is it unethical to sit on this mountain of student learning data and do nothing w/it? #lrnchat
11:11:18 am chettbradley: @JaneBozarth what would the answer be if we asked the ethical implications of collecting health info docs never used? #lrnchat
11:11:19 am JaneBozarth: Ethical? Buying an expensive LMS so you can get 96 reports you don’t intend to ever view? #lrnchat
11:11:26 am katridgely: RT @LauraLJ: @janebozarth There are lies, damned lies and statistics #lrnchat
11:11:27 am tenartemis: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q2) the other side of the coin: fear of the ethical issues resulting in avoidance doesnt change the problem set #lrnchat
11:11:30 am adfunkster: RT @LnDDave: Q2) Ethical concerns are one reason I don’t share data unless specifically asked for I share stories based on my data. #lrnchat
11:11:34 am LnDDave: Q2) Another ethical concern: Excel Exports are not data; they are COPIES of data that can be ALTERED. #lrnchat
11:11:40 am OpenSesameNow: Alarming thought. RT @janebozarth: What about learners who don’t know what we collect/what we have access to & keep? … #lrnchat
11:11:42 am Barb_D: RT @LauraLJ: Q2) ethical issues with collecting learning data? only if misused #lrnchat
11:11:47 am _Kavi: RT @LnDDave: Q2) Another ethical concern: Excel Exports are not data; they are COPIES of data that can be ALTERED. #lrnchat
11:11:48 am StephanieDaul: RT @JaneBozarth: Ethical? Buying an expensive LMS so you can get 96 reports you dont intend to ever view? #lrnchat
11:11:50 am rachelsparrow: computer is playing up – so bye for now. Really enjoyed reading the input! #lrnchat
11:11:56 am c4lpt: RT @JaneBozarth: Ethical? Buying an expensive LMS so you can get 96 reports you dont intend to ever view? <or actually need #lrnchat
11:11:59 am billcush: Would think thats everyone’s expectation…in a company. RT @_kavi: Q2) Does learner know that data is being collected ? #lrnchat
11:12:03 am TriciaRansom: Good point RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q2) Here’s the other side: fear of ethical issues resulting in avoidance doesn’t change problem #lrnchat
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11:12:12 am flowersprof: RT @KristiBroom: Q2) do we ever know about all the data collected on us? Clicks on websites, satellite images. The ethics question goes beyond lrng #Lrnchat
11:12:13 am scogill: RT @LnDDave: Q2) Another ethical concern: Excel Exports are not data; they are COPIES of data that can be ALTERED. #lrnchat
11:12:14 am katridgely: RT @LnDDave: Q2) Another ethical concern: Excel Exports are not data; they are COPIES of data that can be ALTERED. #lrnchat
11:12:14 am urbie: RT @npmaven @TriciaRansom Q2) Giving people opt-out rights #lrnchat good luck with that
11:12:34 am billcush: @lauralj @janebozarth Figures never lie…but liars sure can figure. #lrnchat
11:12:45 am mrch0mp3rs: Q2) There will be more wicked problems to deal with. The abundance of data we can’t control is something we need to get comfy with #lrnchat
11:12:47 am _Kavi: @RussMK Well I guess we havent reached that level of regulatory awareness in this part of the world ! #lrnchat
11:12:48 am chettbradley: RT @2GFred: Q2) Ethical issues arise from what you do or DON’T do with information. Is learning data turned into information? #lrnchat
11:12:50 am smarte_pants: RT @JaneBozarth: Ethical? Buying an expensive LMS so you can get 96 reports you dont intend to ever view? #lrnchat
11:12:51 am wls1961: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q2) There will be more wicked problems to deal with. The abundance of data we can’t control is something we need to get comfy with #lrnchat
11:12:53 am chettbradley: @2GFred good point #lrnchat
11:13:07 am wls1961: RT @billcush: @lauralj @janebozarth Figures never lie…but liars sure can figure. #lrnchat
11:13:12 am catherine_delia: RT @urbie: RT @npmaven @TriciaRansom Q2) Giving people opt-out rights #lrnchat good luck with that < agree #lrnchat
11:13:15 am mrch0mp3rs: Q2) Also something we need to get comfy with: forgiveness. You’re going to find stuff out about others you don’t want to know. #lrnchat
11:13:21 am katridgely: @urbie @npmaven @TriciaRansom well the problem with that too is you get the people who love or hate – not the inbetween. #lrnchat
11:13:21 am JudithELS: Feathers are being spat> RT @JaneBozarth: Ethical? Buying an expensive LMS so you can get 96 reports you dont intend to ever view? #lrnchat
11:13:34 am bschlenker: Hi #lrnchat! Sorry I’m late. Catching up now. Cheers! #lrnchat
11:13:44 am alc47: RT @KristiBroom: Q2) ethics Q is beyond lrng – if constrain selves to data about ability to perform is there an issue? #lrnchat
11:13:51 am StephanieDaul: We collect the data but do we ever change our behavior because it? I’ve never been asked to change a course based on lrn data #lrnchat
11:13:53 am LnDDave: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q2) Also, worth noting, this is a very hard problem for which there will likely be no universal solution. #lrnchat
11:13:54 am KristiBroom: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q2) There will be more wicked problems. The abundance of data we cant control is something we need 2 get comfy with #Lrnchat
11:13:56 am Tina_Barr: @bschlenker Welome! Better late than never! #lrnchat
11:14:01 am leavittm: RT @leahmacvie: Mobile tech may, in fact, change the way we learn: Content, Compute, Capture, Communicate. -Clark Quinn #lrnchat
11:14:03 am mrch0mp3rs: Q2) We’re goint to have to learn not to sweat the small stuff. You can’t have all this ubiquity and tailored services and not share #lrnchat
11:14:07 am ICTEvangelist: RT @MoodleMcKean: 5 Free iPhone Apps for the Classroom –SimpleK12 http://bit.ly/hoUdme #ipad #ipod #iphone #apps #edapp #mlearning #edtech #elearning #lrnchat
11:14:11 am betseymerkel: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q2) Also something we need to get comfy with: forgiveness. You’re going to find stuff out about others you don’t want to know. #lrnchat
11:14:19 am alc47: Q2 Is the real Q being asked here about the ethics of an LMS? #lrnchat
11:14:30 am ICTEvangelist: RT @MoodleMcKean: ICT – Those who can, tweet – Features – TES Connect http://bit.ly/g7uOcz #edtech #elearning #lrnchat #cpchat #edchat #tlchat
11:14:30 am JaneBozarth: I myself am a wicked problem. #lrnchat
11:14:43 am mrch0mp3rs: RT @JaneBozarth: I myself am a wicked problem. #lrnchat
11:14:45 am catherine_delia: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q2) We’re goint to have to learn not to sweat the small stuff. You can’t have all this ubiquity and tailored services and not share #lrnchat
11:14:45 am gjcannon: Q2) ethics = capturing data you analyse and then turn into action #lrnchat
11:14:51 am dawnladams: @ Cisco we have legalize on eval tools. RT @JaneBozarth: What about learners who don’t know what we collect, have access to, keep? #lrnchat
11:14:58 am Barb_D: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q2) Were goint to have to learn not to sweat the small stuff. <<ah.. but what IS the small stuff…? #lrnchat
11:15:05 am 2GFred: add Comply? RT @leavittm: RT @leahmacvie: Mobile tech maychange the way we learn: Content, Compute, Capture, Communicate #lrnchat
11:15:10 am LnDDave: Q2) I don’t think collecting data is unethical. It’s how we collect it and how the data is used that raises ethical concerns. #lrnchat
11:15:15 am Barb_D: @JaneBozarth LOL #lrnchat
11:15:26 am KristiBroom: @alc47 Good question. Feels like the answer should be no concerns about perf data, but I’m seeing lots of concerns. #Lrnchat
11:15:36 am LnDDave: RT @bschlenker: Hi #lrnchat! Sorry I’m late. Catching up now. Cheers! <Hi Brent!
11:15:41 am bschlenker: @mrch0mp3rs Q2) I’m a big fan of forgiveness. Been afraid to mention as I didn’t want people to roll eyes at me ;-) #lrnchat
11:15:44 am Dave_Ferguson: @dawnladams Legalese is always in plentiful supply. Demand, though, is variable. #lrnchat
11:15:50 am betseymerkel: @mrch0mp3rs Q2) There’ll be more wicked problems to deal w/. Abundance of data we can’t control’s something we need 2get comfy w/ #lrnchat
11:15:53 am lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:15:55 am RyanJSegrist: @LnDDave Q2) I agree. The actual “collection” is morally neutral. #lrnchat
11:16:04 am _Kavi: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:16:11 am RyanJSegrist: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:16:13 am KristiBroom: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #Lrnchat
11:16:13 am InfoAtOCP: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:16:16 am c4lpt: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:16:19 am mrch0mp3rs: Good follow-up by @Barb_D: What is the small stuff? < The small stuff is whatever is not vitally important to the context, IMHO #lrnchat
11:16:21 am alc47: @KristiBroom Exactly. How people learn is not our issue – except to help them – the key is the outcome #lrnchat
11:16:23 am Barb_D: RT @RyanJSegrist: @LnDDave Q2) I agree. The actual “collection” is morally neutral. #lrnchat
11:16:23 am JudithELS: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:16:23 am bschlenker: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:16:27 am TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:16:28 am Barb_D: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:16:32 am KatieStroudPro: RT @janebozarth: Ethical? Buying an expensive LMS so you can get 96 reports you don’t intend to ever view? #lrnchat
11:16:48 am katridgely: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:16:50 am chettbradley: Very true! RT @leavittm: @chettbradley also implications for healthcare employers – continued/denied accreditation, fines #lrnchat
11:16:53 am 2GFred: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:16:54 am LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:16:57 am billcush: @_kavi Should be disclosed up front, right. People should be told how…I think. #lrnchat
11:17:06 am JaneBozarth: q3 Formative: usability testing, watching learners, testing along the way, including learners in design and tryout phases #lrnchat
11:17:11 am urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:17:16 am JaneBozarth: RT @leavittm: @chettbradley also implications for healthcare employers – continued/denied accreditation, fines #lrnchat
11:17:21 am TriciaRansom: Q3) Ok, I’ll admit it – I have no idea what this question means. What is formative and summative data? #lrnchat
11:17:26 am alc47: RT RT @janebozarth: Ethical? Buying an expensive LMS so you can get 96 reports you dont intend to ever view? Agreed #lrnchat
11:17:31 am Dave_Ferguson: @janebozarth In my skeptical experience, the decision makers viewed the LMS reports. Once. At the sales pitch. #lrnchat
11:17:36 am bschlenker: aside) Seeing lots of new faces today! Great to meet you all! #lrnchat
11:17:39 am mrch0mp3rs: @bschlenker I love that Don Henley song #lrnchat
11:17:42 am RyanJSegrist: RT @TriciaRansom: Q3) Ok, I’ll admit it – I have no idea what this question means. What is formative and summative data? #lrnchat <Me too!
11:17:44 am Barb_D: RT @TriciaRansom: Q3) Ok, Ill admit it – I have no idea what this question means. What is formative and summative data? <TY! #lrnchat
11:17:56 am chettbradley: Re: ethics – how many here have had formal training in ethical practice and/or psychometrics? #lrnchat
11:18:05 am StephanieDaul: Q3) I would love to say we collect formative but we never change anything…even during a pilot program #lrnchat
11:18:10 am Barb_D: @bschlenker Hiya! :) #lrnchat
11:18:12 am LauraLJ: Does Data Protection Act (UK) give guidelines on collecting data ref: Q2) #lrnchat
11:18:13 am billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:18:19 am _Kavi: Q3) Theres some data in the numbers. How many ? Who all ? Who did ? How long? Real data is at the work place! “Whats changed ?” #lrnchat
11:18:22 am Dave_Ferguson: @TriciaRansom Formative: as things are happening (like feedback during a course). Summative: afterward (like post-course). #lrnchat
11:18:22 am mrch0mp3rs: RT @chettbradley: Re: ethics – how many here have had formal training in ethical practice and/or psychometrics? #lrnchat
11:18:23 am dawnjmahoney: Q2) Some projects/not all. True ISD & ADDIE only present sum of the time #lrnchat
11:18:25 am KatieStroudPro: Q3) currently not collecting any data. Clients all in development mode. #lrnchat
11:18:31 am LnDDave: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? < I like to watch (Keep the context people…) #lrnchat
11:18:33 am web20education: RT @MoodleMcKean: ICT – Those who can, tweet – Features – TES Connect http://bit.ly/g7uOcz #edtech #elearning #lrnchat #cpchat #edchat #tlchat
11:18:39 am KatieStroudPro: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:18:46 am JaneBozarth: RT @Barb_D: RT @TriciaRansom: Formative = tasting soup as you prepare it. Summative = tasting after it’s served. #lrnchat
11:18:57 am JudithELS: Q3) We’re not but many of our clients are, via feedback Qs (formative) and tests/workbooks (summative). #lrnchat
11:18:59 am bschlenker: RT @Barb_D: @bschlenker Hiya! :) <Hi Barb! #lrnchat
11:19:18 am cahlan: Q3) formative: during the learning process, summative: after the learning process (after the fact) #lrnchat
11:19:29 am dawnladams: RT @c4lpt: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:19:33 am RyanJSegrist: Q3 We collect summative data with evaluation surveys. Very Bleah #lrnchat
11:19:38 am OpenSesameNow: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @Barb_D: RT @TriciaRansom: Formative = tasting soup as you prepare it. Summative = tasting after it’s served. #lrnchat
11:19:40 am JaneBozarth: Agree RT @LnDDave: < I like to watch (Keep the context people…) #lrnchat
11:19:43 am LnDDave: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @TriciaRansom Formative: as things are happening (like feedback during a course). Summative: afterward (like post-course). #lrnchat
11:19:51 am onsSara: Hello all, joining late #lrnchat
11:19:51 am KristiBroom: Q3) we collect formative during proofs of concept and pilots, and summative after. Lots of surveys/reactions #Lrnchat
11:19:56 am dawnjmahoney: Q3) How:Smiley sheets, focus group, survey, OJT observation, interviews-before, during & after pilot #lrnchat
11:19:58 am urbie: #lrnchat Q3 formative/summative: depends on the course.. could be on the gunnery range, practice in class, online asssessment, observation
11:19:59 am lingsc: RT @MoodleMcKean: ICT – Those who can, tweet – Features – TES Connect http://bit.ly/g7uOcz #edtech #elearning #lrnchat #cpchat #edchat #tlchat
11:20:10 am JaneBozarth: Summative eval= summation. After it’s over. Formative: as it is being developed, before people finish course, etc. #lrnchat
11:20:10 am bschlenker: @LauraLJ Those puppies are darn cute! Dang! there goes my ADD again ;-) What’s the question? #lrnchat
11:20:10 am tenartemis: Q3) while I tailor learning based on formative, most data that’s collected and stored is summative #lrnchat
11:20:14 am Barb_D: We use a volunteer focus group to review our courses, then we review the test results and eval (smile sheets) after #lrnchat
11:20:21 am c4lpt: Q3) Formative = en route; summative = end of journey #lrnchat
11:20:32 am MimiBarbara: Q3) Hit and miss on collection of formative and summative data. #lrnchat
11:20:34 am KatieStroudPro: RT @TriciaRansom: Q3) Ok, I’ll admit it – I have no idea what this question means. What is formative and summative data? #lrnchat
11:20:41 am kelly_smith01: Q3) I have done much formative evaluation – not always sure of how we handled reliability but validity was addressed strong #lrnchat
11:20:44 am Barb_D: RT @JaneBozarth: Formative = tasting soup as you prepare it. Summative = tasting after its served. #lrnchat
11:20:44 am LnDDave: Q3) I stop talking and start listening. #lrnchat
11:20:45 am JaneBozarth: Q3 Blogs, wikis, other social tools good for intersession reflective work = good for getting formative info #lrnchat
11:20:51 am bschlenker: RT @c4lpt: Q3) Formative = en route; summative = end of journey <Well played! #lrnchat
11:20:54 am Dave_Ferguson: Formative: hey, we’re making good time. Summative: Cleveland? I was heading to Denver! #lrnchat
11:21:01 am mrch0mp3rs: RT @JaneBozarth: Q3 Blogs, wikis, other social tools good for intersession reflective work = good for getting formative info #lrnchat
11:21:03 am KatieStroudPro: RT @c4lpt: Q3) Formative = en route; summative = end of journey #lrnchat
11:21:05 am billcush: Q3) Summative data: obtain perf reports the biz already produces: sales figures, calls per hour, quality scores, etc. #lrnchat
11:21:10 am allthingsnoisy: Q3) Each course has a pass/fail score (formative). Our summative eval is whether or not they pass enough courses to gain cert #lrnchat
11:21:12 am dbolen: Q3 depends on course, full motion simulator formative and then used for debrief #lrnchat
11:21:14 am _Kavi: Q3) I always have a group discussion with learners post ‘event’ with the learners ! There is a wealth of info in listening in! #lrnchat
11:21:17 am JaneBozarth: Q3. Last week we… how have you used, what have you seen… ? #lrnchat
11:21:24 am Tina_Barr: Heading out for lunch. Thanks for the #lrnchat
11:21:30 am StephanieDaul: RT @LnDDave: Q3) I stop talking and start listening. <would love to see more of that going on!> #lrnchat
11:21:35 am bschlenker: RT @JaneBozarth: Q3 Blogs, wikis, other social tools good for intersession reflective work = good for getting formative info <like! #lrnchat
11:21:44 am chettbradley: RT @JaneBozarth: I myself am a wicked problem. #lrnchat Love it!d
11:21:45 am c4lpt: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Formative: hey, were making good time. Summative: Cleveland? I was heading to Denver! #lrnchat
11:21:46 am JaneBozarth: Evaluation data should be used to IMprove, not just prove. Am I really the only one who thinks that? #lrnchat
11:21:47 am _Kavi: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @Barb_D: RT @TriciaRansom: Formative = tasting soup as you prepare it. Summative = tasting after it’s served. #lrnchat
11:21:49 am KristiBroom: LOL! RT @Dave_Ferguson: Formative: hey, were making good time. Summative: Cleveland? I was heading to Denver! #Lrnchat
11:21:52 am bschlenker: @Tina_Barr Bye, Tina! See ya next week! #lrnchat
11:22:03 am RyanJSegrist: Q3 Much of our education is always being revised and improved. It blurs the line btw formative and summative #lrnchat
11:22:17 am JudithELS: RT @JaneBozarth: Evaluation data should be used to IMprove, not just prove. Am I really the only one who thinks that? <NO #lrnchat
11:22:22 am bschlenker: RT @KristiBroom: LOL! RT @Dave_Ferguson: Formative: hey, were making good time. Summative: Cleveland? I was heading to Denver! #lrnchat
11:22:25 am KatieStroudPro: RT @KristiBroom: LOL! RT @Dave_Ferguson: Formative: hey, were making good time. Summative: Cleveland? I was heading to Denver! #Lrnchat
11:22:27 am alc47: RT @StephanieDaul: Q3) I stop talking and start listening. <would love to see more of that going on!>better than gathering data #lrnchat
11:22:30 am c4lpt: Q3) So since most people’s learning never ends it’s about constantly seeing how they are doing on the job – are they still en route #lrnchat
11:22:31 am kkapp: @JaneBozarth Evaluation data should be used to IMprove, not just prove. Am I really the only one who thinks that? #lrnchat with u on that!
11:22:32 am AndreaMay1: We collect a lot of summative data about training success by monitoring trends in help desk issues after software implementations. #lrnchat
11:22:33 am _Kavi: Me AGREE ! RT @JaneBozarth: Evaluation data should be used to IMprove, not just prove. Am I really the only one who thinks that? #lrnchat
11:22:50 am Barb_D: RT @RyanJSegrist: Q3 Much of our education is always being revised and improved. << Ours Too! #lrnchat
11:22:58 am JaneBozarth: @_Kavi Hi Kavi always good to see you! #lrnchat
11:22:59 am KristiBroom: Q3) formative: good to be f2f where possible to get multiple levels of reaction and for quick changes #Lrnchat
11:23:00 am LauraLJ: RT @JaneBozarth: Evaluation data should be used to IMprove, not just prove. Am I really the only one who thinks that? #lrnchat
11:23:08 am dawnladams: Q3) Formative during dev-concept doc,design doc,alpha,beta,pilot. Summative-Metrics That Matter#lrnchat
11:23:11 am npmaven: Nope. RT @JaneBozarth: Evaluation data should be used to IMprove, not just prove. Am I really the only one who thinks that? #lrnchat
11:23:17 am chettbradley: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:23:20 am adfunkster: I agree! RT @JaneBozarth: Evaluation data should be used to IMprove, not just prove. Am I really the only one who thinks that? #lrnchat
11:23:22 am JaneBozarth: RT @KristiBroom: Q3) formative: good to be f2f where possible to get multiple levels of reaction and for quick changes #lrnchat
11:23:24 am mrch0mp3rs: Q3) Activity Streams/paradata are formative. Look at facebook: you “liked” something.; Kindle: you highlight and take notes. #lrnchat
11:23:26 am kelly_smith01: RT JaneBozarth:‎ Evaluation data should be used to IMprove, not just prove. Am I really the only one who thinks that? #lrnchat
11:23:33 am LnDDave: Q3) Formative: “My car is running like cr@p…”; Summative, from a mechanic: “Your car needs a new engine”. #lrnchat
11:23:46 am billcush: Nope. RT @janebozarth: Evaluation data should be used to IMprove, not just prove. Am I really the only one who thinks that? #lrnchat
11:23:48 am MimiBarbara: Q3) Design shop started focusing on formative eval last year. Still trying to figure out how to manage long-term. #lrnchat
11:23:49 am JudithELS: Using evaluation data to ‘prove’ anything is fraught with problems & is greatly abused. #lrnchat
11:23:58 am onsSara: Q3) I do formative= discussion posts, learning checkpoints (‘tho data not retained on this one) #lrnchat
11:24:09 am _Kavi: Great to chat with you Jane ! :D RT @JaneBozarth: @_Kavi Hi Kavi always good to see you! #lrnchat
11:24:13 am LnDDave: RT @JaneBozarth: Evaluation data should be used to IMprove, not just prove. Am I really the only one who thinks that? #lrnchat
11:24:13 am chettbradley: Really? By nature or by design? RT @Barb_D: RT @RyanJSegrist: @LnDDave Q2) I agree. The actual “collection” is morally neutral. #lrnchat
11:24:18 am StephanieDaul: Q3) my organization it still complete design and move on…check it off the list. We really just do the summative #lrnchat
11:24:19 am bschlenker: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q3) Activity Streams/paradata are formative. Look at facebook: you “liked”.; Kindle: highlight and take notes. #lrnchat
11:24:19 am LauraLJ: RT @janebozarth :Evaluation data should be used to IMprove, not just prove. #lrnchat >> with you there
11:24:29 am Dave_Ferguson: @LnDDave Summative from car dealer: “You need a new car.” Of course, for him, that’s formative, too. #lrnchat
11:24:32 am c4lpt: RT @JaneBozarth: Evaluation data should be used to IMprove, not just prove. Am I really the only one who thinks that? <I agree #lrnchat
11:24:39 am JaneBozarth: Ok back to Q1 Do people revise based on data collected? Did you fix temperature in room ppl have complained about since 1983? #lrnchat
11:24:39 am katridgely: #lrnchat fire alarms going off – gotta go!
11:24:53 am JaneBozarth: RT @StephanieDaul: Q3) my org it still complete design and move on…check it off the list. We really just do the summative #lrnchat
11:25:09 am mrch0mp3rs: Q3) Note to self – I need to start explaining paradata more in terms of formative data for broader instructional crowds #lrnchat
11:25:15 am adfunkster: #lrnchat evaluating and improving should be a never ending process. It’s the bushiness of learning we are in.
11:25:18 am nimblecopy: RT @learnchat Q3) How are you collecting formative and summative data now? #lrnchat
11:25:21 am dawnjmahoney: RT @StephanieDaul: Q3) my organization it still complete design; move on…check it off the list. We really just do the summative #lrnchat
11:25:23 am billcush: That’s excellent! Issues should drop after training. RT @andreamay1: …monitor help desk issues after software implementations. #lrnchat
11:25:25 am StephanieDaul: RT @LauraLJ: RT @janebozarth :Evaluation data should be used to IMprove, not just prove. #lrnchat >> with you there #lrnchat
11:25:39 am kelly_smith01: Q3) You can use Twitter (if you have a plan) for formative and summative evaluation. #lrnchat
11:25:40 am dawnjmahoney: RT @LnDDave: RT @JaneBozarth: Evaluation data should be used to IMprove, not just prove. Am I really the only one who thinks that? #lrnchat
11:25:59 am dawnjmahoney: RT @MimiBarbara: Q3) Design shop started focusing on formative eval last year. Still trying to figure out how to manage long-term. #lrnchat
11:26:03 am RyanJSegrist: @chettbradley I think by nature. When you add an intentionality for using the data, then it starts to get into ethics #lrnchat
11:26:05 am npmaven: @janebozarth Finding that the ‘iMprove’ motive is harder to sell than it should be. ;) But absolutely, I agree. #lrnchat
11:26:05 am bschlenker: Q3) Formative = repetition, 30secs, 2hours…| Summative = TEN YEARS – Dr. Medina (short to long term memory) #lrnchat
11:26:07 am KatieStroudPro: RT @JaneBozarth: Ok back to Q1 Do people revise based on data collected? Did you fix temperature in room ppl have complained about since 1983? #lrnchat
11:26:10 am alc47: RT @c4lpt: Q3) If peoples learning never ends issue is seeing how they perform – are they still en route. Formative only internal #lrnchat
11:26:12 am Barb_D: RT @adfunkster: #lrnchat evaluating and improving should be a never ending process. Its the business of learning we are in. #lrnchat
11:26:23 am scogill: #lrnchat @JaneBozarth Q1 – it took 5 yrs but we just reorganized the furniture in our training room to actually be comfortable for a class!
11:26:27 am ourfounder: RT @maritzavdh: Reduce to speed up! T @JudithELS: Q0) I’ve learned this week that I can produce better work when I slow down a bit! #lrnchat #pkflow
11:26:28 am adfunkster: #lrnchat finding effective forms of form.. and summ.. evaluation is the trick. forms that will tell you what you need to know to improve.
11:26:30 am 2GFred: @JaneBozarth room temp s/b formative not summative. Why have that Q on smile sheet collected at end? too late! #lrnchat
11:26:30 am onsSara: q3) Our summative=immediate post course eval, 6 mo. checkin w/students re: their personal dev. action plan #lrnchat
11:26:32 am JaneBozarth: @mrch0mp3rs start now? #lrnchat
11:26:33 am tenartemis: @JaneBozarth Is the temperature change in the room going to increase profit? If yes, we will change. #lrnchat
11:26:35 am MimiBarbara: Q3) Today lead ID is in charge of formative evaluation while course is under design. #lrnchat
11:26:39 am chettbradley: Q3 due to complexities, rely on mbrs/anec. to ID gross gaps. then refine with focus groups. #lrnchat
11:26:45 am npmaven: Too familiar RT @StephanieDaul: Q3) my organization it still complete design; move on…check it off the list. We just do summative #lrnchat
11:26:53 am _Kavi: Q3) Data can be diced to death! Statistics being the lampost to the drunkard, Not for light but for support, is famous #lrnchat
11:27:07 am LauraLJ: #lrnchat learning programmes living and breathing things always evolving. Use data to help them grow not whither and die
11:27:07 am urbie: #lrnchat Q3 summative assessments: a car that instructor can make skid — the student recovers safely, or..
11:27:09 am dawnjmahoney: RT @JaneBozarth:back to Q1 lolololo #lrnchat
11:27:13 am dawnladams: If not revising don’t ask question. Timeframe a factor too.RT @JaneBozarth: Ok back to Q1 Do people revise based on data collected?#lrnchat
11:27:16 am scogill: #lrnchat Q3) I’m on a global team who hands content to regional teams in hope that they implement and measure
11:27:35 am JaneBozarth: I really am curious: Do orgs use all that data towards revising and improving? #lrnchat
11:27:42 am lisacrispin: RT @maritzavdh: Reduce to speed up! T @JudithELS: Q0) I’ve learned this week that I can produce better work when I slow down a bit! #lrnchat #pkflow
11:27:51 am 2GFred: RT @_Kavi: Q3) Data can be diced to death! Statistics being the lampost to the drunkard, Not for light but for support, is famous #lrnchat
11:27:51 am Dave_Ferguson: @tenartemis You would think “increase profit” would be a cure-all for corporate ill. But then there’s General Motors. #lrnchat
11:27:54 am cahlan: Gotta go, great discussion. Shameless plug for our learning analytics gathering & reporting tool: (http://enfuseanalytics.com) #lrnchat
11:28:10 am JaneBozarth: Summative evaluation = evaluation by autopsy. Examine after the patient has died… #lrnchat
11:28:12 am StephanieDaul: Q3) Do some of our CLOs even know why you would do both? #lrnchat
11:28:15 am LnDDave: edited: RT @JaneBozarth: I really am curious: Do orgs use ANY that data towards revising and improving? #lrnchat
11:28:18 am InfoAtOCP: RT @JaneBozarth: I really am curious: Do orgs use all that data towards revising and improving? #lrnchat <-We do, else what’s the point?
11:28:22 am mrch0mp3rs: Q3) Everytime a learner asks a question in a class, hits google to clarify in context of a learning activity — it’s formative #lrnchat
11:28:37 am nimblecopy: Q3) I don’t always have access to learners through my clients, but when possible I interview them & get valuable improvement ideas. #lrnchat
11:28:40 am Dave_Ferguson: @scogill “In hope?!?” #lrnchat
11:28:45 am dawnjmahoney: RT @dawnladams: If not revising dont ask question. Timeframe a factor too. |here! Here! #lrnchat
11:28:49 am _Kavi: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q3) Everytime a learner asks a question in a class, hits google to clarify in context of a learning activity — it’s formative #lrnchat
11:29:09 am Barb_D: RT @LnDDave: edited: RT @JaneBozarth: I really am curious: Do orgs use ANY that data towards revising and improving? < We do. #lrnchat
11:29:11 am mrch0mp3rs: Q3) Your after-action review is a summative evaluation. What did we do? What worked? What could we IMPROVE #lrnchat
11:29:11 am c4lpt: RT @JaneBozarth: Summative evaluation = evaluation by autopsy. Examine after the patient has died… <LOL #lrnchat
11:29:14 am KatieStroudPro: RT @2GFred: RT @_Kavi: Q3) Data can be diced to death! Statistics being the lampost to the drunkard, Not for light but for support, is famous #lrnchat
11:29:28 am scogill: #lrnchat when I delivered our 1wk new hire program I’d get feedback when we took the class out to dinner & made improvements based on that
11:29:29 am _Kavi: Awesome ! RT @JaneBozarth: Summative evaluation = evaluation by autopsy. Examine after the patient has died… #lrnchat
11:29:38 am LauraLJ: RT @JaneBozarth: I really am curious: Do orgs use all that data towards revising and improving? #lrnchat
11:29:38 am LnDDave: RT @JaneBozarth: Summative evaluation = evaluation by autopsy. Examine after the patient has died… #lrnchat
11:29:41 am chettbradley: @RyanJSegrist perhaps – but what if a handy “use” only becomes apparent after the fact? unless IDs gross trends only… danger #lrnchat
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11:29:52 am ddrrnt: RT @simbeckhampson: Making sense of the data is work. Collective intelligence is the future. Combining AI and HI. #insights feed #success #lrnchat
11:29:52 am dawnladams: No. But time,resources,money,value dictate improve. RT @C4LPT: RT @JaneBozarth: Eval data s/be used to IMprove, not just prove. #lrnchat
11:30:08 am Dave_Ferguson: The less orgs use eval data to improve processes, likelier they are to believe in sage-on-the-stage / sheep-dip training. #lrnchat
11:30:14 am JaneBozarth: To @mrch0mp3rs ‘s excellent point: How many do after-action reviews? #lrnchat
11:30:18 am lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:30:27 am dawnjmahoney: RT @JaneBozarth: I really m curious: Do orgs use data towards revising & improving?|Sales Compliance Regulatory Mortality-some yes #lrnchat
11:30:28 am _Kavi: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:30:29 am KatieStroudPro: RT @_kavi: Awesome ! RT @JaneBozarth: Summative evaluation = evaluation by autopsy. Examine after the patient has died… #lrnchat
11:30:40 am JaneBozarth: @dawnladams no, eval data shouldn’t be used to improve? really? #lrnchat
11:30:40 am npmaven: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:30:43 am jpb_ellicom: RT @JaneBozarth: Summative evaluation = evaluation by autopsy. Examine after the patient has died… #lrnchat
11:30:47 am KristiBroom: We do RT @JaneBozarth: To @mrch0mp3rs s excellent point: How many do after-action reviews? #Lrnchat
11:30:48 am RyanJSegrist: @chettbradley Good point. I can’t help parsing it out though. I was a philosopher in another life… #lrnchat
11:30:49 am 2GFred: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:30:52 am LauraLJ: RT@JaneBozarth I really am curious: Do orgs use all that data towards revising and improving? #lrnchat… very unlikely
11:30:53 am Barb_D: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:30:55 am KristiBroom: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #Lrnchat
11:30:56 am LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:30:59 am JudithELS: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:31:02 am KatieStroudPro: RT @janebozarth: I really am curious: Do orgs use all that data towards revising and improving? #lrnchat <–the training or the business?
11:31:02 am JaneBozarth: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:31:07 am c4lpt: Q3) If we see learning as ongoing and not as ad hoc events thats why performance data is more valuable #lrnchat
11:31:09 am billcush: Bye all-y’all. Gotta go. #lrnchat
11:31:12 am _Kavi: Q4) Do we measure conversations over coffee ? #lrnchat
11:31:19 am mrch0mp3rs: Q3) the more granular you can collect, the more often you collect, the more evidence you build of what and how learning takes place #lrnchat
11:31:24 am c4lpt: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:31:24 am dawnjmahoney: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:31:25 am urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:31:26 am JaneBozarth: @RyanJSegrist How did that pay? #lrnchat
11:31:31 am KatieStroudPro: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:31:33 am dawnladams: No. Most use as measuring stick to reach goal. RT @JaneBozarth: Do orgs use all that data towards revising and improving? #lrnchat
11:31:34 am JaneBozarth: RT @c4lpt: Q3) If we see learning as ongoing and not as ad hoc events thats why performance data is more valuable #lrnchat
11:31:48 am 2GFred: those conversing do. :-) RT @_Kavi: Q4) Do we measure conversations over coffee ? #lrnchat
11:31:49 am barrydahl: Q4) Colleges give credit 4 life exper, or things learned on the job. Why would informal/social learning not get the same treatment? #lrnchat
11:31:50 am derekwwade: Afraid I have to jump off, all – just when the informal learning fun starts too! #lrnchat
11:31:50 am JaneBozarth: If L&D could find way to get ‘credit’ for it… RT @_Kavi: Q4) Do we measure conversations over coffee ? #lrnchat
11:31:57 am mSenbetta: Why not pass measurement to the leader to see if performance has improved? #lrnchat
11:32:07 am dawnjmahoney: RT @_Kavi: Q4)Do we measure conversations over coffee?|M w/Kavi. Informal lng in halls has happened 4ever. No measurement #lrnchat
11:32:08 am LnDDave: Q4) It’s about measuring performance changes; we can always backtrack to what influenced the change. #lrnchat
11:32:13 am RyanJSegrist: @JaneBozarth You know the expression about starving philosophers? It’s true! #lrnchat
11:32:14 am c4lpt: Q4) Whoooa don’t even go there! Social activity data is as meaningless as LMS data #lrnchat
11:32:15 am mrch0mp3rs: Q3) The collection of all this formative data (paradata) leads to the ethical questions. #lrnchat
11:32:15 am Dave_Ferguson: @mrch0mp3rs I’m a fan of data, but if you get too granular, you end up with bags of beach sand. Don’t collect just b/c you CAN. #lrnchat
11:32:22 am _Kavi: LOL RT @JaneBozarth: If L&D could find way to get ‘credit’ for it… RT @_Kavi: Q4) Do we measure conversations over coffee ? #lrnchat
11:32:23 am mrch0mp3rs: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @mrch0mp3rs I’m a fan of data, but if you get too granular, you end up with bags of beach sand. Don’t collect just b/c you CAN. #lrnchat
11:32:31 am KristiBroom: Depends who paid for the coffee ;-) RT @_Kavi: Q4) Do we measure conversations over coffee ? #Lrnchat
11:32:32 am JaneBozarth: @derekwwade The informal learning fun started at 11:30 ET :-) #lrnchat
11:32:43 am JaneBozarth: RT @Dave_Ferguson Im a fan of data, but if you get too granular, you end up with bags of beach sand. Dont collect just b/c you CAN. #lrnchat
11:32:50 am mrch0mp3rs: @Dave_Ferguson To my last point, that’s gets to the ethics. Why collect what will not be used? #lrnchat
11:32:53 am OpenSesameNow: Q4) You could measure employees’ subjective perception of the acceleration of the access to info, morale, are they having fun? #lrnchat
11:32:54 am _Kavi: LOL RT @KristiBroom: Depends who paid for the coffee ;-) RT @_Kavi: Q4) Do we measure conversations over coffee ? #Lrnchat
11:32:57 am JaneBozarth: RT @c4lpt: Q4) Whoooa dont even go there! Social activity data is as meaningless as LMS data #lrnchat
11:32:59 am nimblecopy: @scogill Yes, you get many ideas for improving the training when you get the learners together in a group..consensus and compromise #lrnchat
11:32:59 am alc47: Q4 The answer is still the same – what is happening to business and individual performance #lrnchat
11:33:03 am JudithELS: Too right! RT @c4lpt: Q4) Whoooa dont even go there! Social activity data is as meaningless as LMS data #lrnchat
11:33:09 am chettbradley: @RyanJSegrist would love to get to that point! #lrnchat
11:33:10 am Barb_D: RT @mrch0mp3rs Im a fan of data, but if you get too granular, you end up with bags of beach sand. Dont collect just b/c you CAN. #lrnchat
11:33:10 am KatieStroudPro: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat <–indeed, how?
11:33:11 am scogill: #lrnchat Q4) we’ve tried tracking conversations / job shadowing – it gets out of hand and there is no standard!
11:33:11 am LauraLJ: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:33:20 am _Kavi: :) RT @2GFred: those conversing do. :-) RT @_Kavi: Q4) Do we measure conversations over coffee ? #lrnchat
11:33:36 am sparkandco: RT @dawnjmahoney: RT @LnDDave: RT @JaneBozarth: Evaluation data should be used to IMprove, not just prove. Am I really the only one who thinks that? #lrnchat
11:33:37 am LnDDave: RT @c4lpt: Q4) Whoooa don’t even go there! Social activity data is as meaningless as LMS data #lrnchat
11:33:40 am urbie: #lrnchat Q4 measuring informal/social learning.. damn straight we should: how?.. indirectly: noisy breakrooms after a change; observe later
11:33:41 am kelly_smith01: Q4) Evaluation of informal/social learning seems to fall into a non-statistical area – relates more to motivation – self-reliance #lrnchat
11:33:48 am Dave_Ferguson: @mrch0mp3rs Even short of ethics, just plain efficiency. I collected lotsa data in tryouts of online courses; little after rollout. #lrnchat
11:33:49 am barrydahl: Q4) Unfortunately, when colleges give credit for things other than a class – you almost have to take a class to get the credit. #lrnchat
11:33:51 am dawnjmahoney: And m OK not measuring what doesnt need to be. N my world I care abt Compliance & Regulatory measures getting more consistent #lrnchat
11:33:51 am JaneBozarth: RT @2GFred: those conversing do. :-) RT @_Kavi: Q4) Do we measure conversations over coffee ? #lrnchat
11:34:14 am Dave_Ferguson: (well, okay, much less, rather than “little”) #lrnchat
11:34:19 am RyanJSegrist: @chettbradley I wish you luck! I tried but couldn’t feed myself on it #lrnchat
11:34:19 am nimblecopy: RT @lrnchat Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:34:22 am mSenbetta: Measuring informal and social learning!! Humm, is that formalizing it totally chaning the intent #lrnchat
11:34:28 am Barb_D: q4) You HEAR the feedback, but is it measurable? I think it is more real-world reference to support other data #lrnchat
11:34:28 am bschlenker: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:34:29 am LauraLJ: #lrnchat Q4) measuring informal learning? not in the sense we currently measure otherwise we’ll kill it
11:34:32 am KristiBroom: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @mrch0mp3rs Im a fan of data, if u get 2 granular, u end up w/ bags of beach sand. Dont collect just b/c u CAN. #Lrnchat
11:34:38 am dawnladams: Q4: Social/informal-old metrics don’t apply. Need to show biz impact to enable use. Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:34:39 am KatieStroudPro: Q4) I feel challenged. Going to have to think about this one. How to measure social/informal learning… #lrnchat
11:34:52 am JaneBozarth: @barrydahl that is why a workplace learning experience should be more clearly distinguished from an academic ‘course’ #lrnchat
11:35:03 am _Kavi: RT @JaneBozarth: @barrydahl that is why a workplace learning experience should be more clearly distinguished from an academic ‘course’ #lrnchat
11:35:16 am KristiBroom: RT @alc47: Q4 The answer is still the same – what is happening to business and individual performance #Lrnchat
11:35:21 am mrch0mp3rs: @JaneBozarth @C4LPT I disagree a little; have to consider the purposes of an LMS. Might be useful if it makes sense of the data. #lrnchat
11:35:23 am JaneBozarth: Then won’t it go away? LOL RT @LauraLJ: measuring informal learning? not in sense we currently measure otherwise we’ll kill it #lrnchat
11:35:32 am RyanJSegrist: RT @JaneBozarth: @barrydahl that’s why workplace learning should be more clearly distinguished from an academic ‘course’ #lrnchat
11:35:37 am bschlenker: RT @JaneBozarth: @barrydahl that is why a workplace learning experience should be more clearly distinguished from a “course” #lrnchat
11:36:04 am JaneBozarth: Had prof once who graded based on # of posts to discuss. board. Friend’s goal was to have 100 meaningless posts. Nice shirt, Jane. #lrnchat
11:36:12 am urbie: #lrnchat Q4 measuring informal/social learning how-to: like this: http://t.co/Xpx7PZn — with an iPad or iPhone, an app, facebook, twitter..
11:36:21 am mrch0mp3rs: Q4) Along with previous set of wicked problems, we have to re-examine what we mean by “measure.” Not interested in counting tweets #lrnchat
11:36:24 am StephanieDaul: @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:36:31 am c4lpt: RT @alc47: Q4 The answer is still the same – what is happening to business and individual performance #lrnchat
11:36:37 am RyanJSegrist: Q4 OJT usually seems to be more outcome-directed. Shouldn’t it be easier to measure in a utilitarian sense? #lrnchat
11:36:42 am JaneBozarth: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4)… we have to re-examine what we mean by “measure.” Not interested in counting tweets #lrnchat
11:36:53 am scogill: #lrnchat Q4) isn’t it part of social lrning to build an environment- nurture it- and let go? measuring every little detail isn’t letting go!
11:36:56 am _Kavi: Q4) learners always know how to get you data for data’s sake ! #lrnchat
11:37:00 am nimblecopy: Q4) Get feedback about informal learning in an informal way…through conversations…interviews or online communications. #lrnchat
11:37:02 am Barb_D: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4) Along with previous set of wicked problems, we have to re-examine what we mean by “measure.” #lrnchat
11:37:04 am Dave_Ferguson: @JaneBozarth Oh, nowadays there are entire web sites filled with nothing but meaningless posts. #lrnchat
11:37:07 am LauraLJ: RT @c4lpt Q3) If we see learning as ongoing and not as ad hoc event……..#lrnchat >> need to think learning not training.
11:37:11 am MimiBarbara: Q4) Still trying to decide if social learning impact on performance is measurable. #lrnchat
11:37:18 am mrch0mp3rs: Q4) Very interested in seeing how ideas spread in an org over time. We can measure that. It’s valuable. #lrnchat
11:37:24 am bschlenker: Q4) I remember hearing about a Management/Leadership course that required mandatory blogging. <faceinhands> #lrnchat
11:37:25 am JaneBozarth: Have book somewhere that talks about ‘karma points’: adding to discussion, encouraging further thinking, engaging at deep level… #lrnchat
11:37:26 am tenartemis: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4) we have to re-examine what we mean by “measure.” Not interested in counting tweets #lrnchat
11:37:29 am dawnjmahoney: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4) w/prev set of wicked problems/ have to re-examine what we mean by “measure.” Not interested in counting tweets #lrnchat
11:37:33 am _Kavi: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4)… we have to re-examine what we mean by “measure.” Not interested in counting tweets #lrnchat
11:37:43 am JaneBozarth: @Dave_Ferguson Yep. We learned to do that in college. #lrnchat
11:37:43 am LnDDave: RT @tenartemis: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4) we have to re-examine what we mean by “measure.” Not interested in counting tweets #lrnchat
11:37:44 am catherine_delia: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4) Along with previous set of wicked problems, we have to re-examine what we mean by “measure.” Not interested in counting tweets #lrnchat
11:37:48 am Barb_D: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4) Very interested in seeing how ideas spread in an org over time. We can measure that. Its valuable. #lrnchat
11:37:57 am StephanieDaul: Q4) how do you measure someone who is reading but not participating but still improving their performance? #lrnchat
11:38:03 am dawnladams: RT @JaneBozarth: @dawnladams no, eval data shouldn’t be used to improve? really? The right eval data s/b used 4 improve. #lrnchat
11:38:05 am chettbradley: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:38:06 am MimiBarbara: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4) Very interested in seeing how ideas spread in an org over time. We can measure that. Its valuable. #lrnchat
11:38:28 am JaneBozarth: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4) Very interested in seeing how ideas spread in an org over time. We can measure that. Its valuable. #lrnchat
11:38:34 am adfunkster: #lrnchat Q4) yes. Start with defining what skills, behaviors, knowledge, etc. should change a result of social/informal learning.
11:38:34 am LauraLJ: #lrnchat training = straight-jacket; learning = an open door
11:38:37 am KristiBroom: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4) Very interested in seeing how ideas spread in an org over time. We can measure that. Its valuable. #Lrnchat
11:38:39 am chettbradley: Q4 can’t answer that one…yet. #lrnchat
11:38:40 am NonprofResMemo: RT @JaneBozarth: Evaluation data should be used to IMprove, not just prove. Am I really the only one who thinks that? #lrnchat
11:38:44 am mrch0mp3rs: Q4) Very interested in how people find information that ties to their performance and improving that seeking speed. Measureable #lrnchat
11:38:45 am JaneBozarth: @dawnladams you said no, it shouldn’t ? I don’t understand. #lrnchat
11:38:45 am catherine_delia: Good point. RT @MimiBarbara: Q4) Still trying to decide if social learning impact on performance is measurable. #lrnchat
11:38:49 am 2GFred: Ethics in business has to do with how people treat each other… interact… social learning/feedback… possibilities? #lrnchat
11:38:55 am c4lpt: Q4) So watch out for all the new systems that are going to “measure” social learning! #lrnchat
11:39:00 am bschlenker: Q4) More interesting is seeing the curation of social info turning into solid biz solution #lrnchat
11:39:17 am _Kavi: Q4) There needs to be a movement against ‘measuring everything’ ! Somethings cant be. Lets get real ! #lrnchat
11:39:20 am catherine_delia: RT @StephanieDaul: Q4) how do you measure someone who is reading but not participating but still improving their performance? #lrnchat
11:39:24 am StephanieDaul: RT @c4lpt: Q4) So watch out for all the new systems that are going to “measure” social learning! #lrnchat
11:39:28 am JaneBozarth: @dawnladams but ok. Respect your opinion. #lrnchat
11:39:28 am JaneBozarth: @dawnladams but ok. Respect your opinion. #lrnchat
11:39:39 am KristiBroom: RT @bschlenker: Q4) More interesting is seeing the curation of social info turning into solid biz solution #Lrnchat
11:39:40 am alc47: Q4@LauraLJ @c4lpt disagree – we need to think performance not learning or training – #lrnchat
11:39:42 am urbie: @bschlenker: Q4) required mandatory blogging. <faceinhands> #lrnchat .. forced is no good.. George Carlin: “They gotta wanna!”
11:39:47 am JaneBozarth: Gold rush. RT @c4lpt: Q4) So watch out for all the new systems that are going to “measure” social learning! #lrnchat
11:39:58 am Dave_Ferguson: @stephaniedaul What is it that causes you to say the performance has improved? #lrnchat
11:40:16 am dawnjmahoney: Q4) Kind of Gladwell’s premise in The Tipping Point #lrnchat
11:40:25 am dawnjmahoney: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @stephaniedaul What is it that causes you to say the performance has improved? #lrnchat
11:40:31 am StephanieDaul: Q4) we don’t even know what social learning is…how can you measure what you can’t define. #lrnchat
11:40:33 am janet_frg: @Dave_Ferguson: “sheep-dip training.” just made me choke on my coffee :-) #lrnchat
11:40:33 am chettbradley: Q4 first thots: provide ops not defined outcomes. constant form. evals. can ID trends for formal progs ltr. #lrnchat
11:40:37 am dawnjmahoney: RT @KristiBroom: RT @bschlenker: Q4) More interesting is seeing the curation of social info turning into solid biz solution #lrnchat
11:40:42 am mrch0mp3rs: Q4) Interested in an org who are the amplifers for org messages, who are the idea generators. We can analyze that for good reasons #lrnchat
11:40:48 am catherine_delia: @dawnjmahoney Gladwell came to my mind as well. #lrnchat
11:40:51 am MimiBarbara: RT @KristiBroom: RT @bschlenker: Q4) More interesting is seeing the curation of social info turning into solid biz solution #lrnchat
11:40:51 am Barb_D: Participating in my first Twitter Chat! Cool!!! #lrnchat
11:40:55 am OpenSesameNow: @janebozarth @c4lpt Social learning measurement tools probably just as useful as the tools to measure ROI on social media. #lrnchat
11:40:57 am _Kavi: q4) No one can ever be 100 % sure that the changes are (only) because of the social learning program in vogue ! #lrnchat
11:41:04 am KristiBroom: Q4) To show value…sell solutions, we have to be able to tell a story. Informal/social are big players in that story #Lrnchat
11:41:06 am JaneBozarth: I expect all of you to show up on time for my new mandatory social learning program.Tomorrow 10 am ET.You must participate. & blog. #lrnchat
11:41:07 am kelly_smith01: Q4)Just do NOT use MBPI to measure social or informal learning. #lrnchat
11:41:11 am LnDDave: Q4) I see it as more connecting than measuring. We measure performance; we connect that performance to what influenced it. #lrnchat
11:41:15 am dawnladams: Didn’t mean shouldn’t use, meant most orgs don’t use. RT @JaneBozarth: @dawnladams you said no, it shouldn’t ? I don’t understand. #lrnchat
11:41:16 am c4lpt: For me (and ITA #inttime) learning=working=learning @alc47 @LauraLJ #lrnchat
11:41:17 am dawnjmahoney: RT @StephanieDaul: Q4) how do you measure someone who is reading but not participating but still improving perf? #lrnchat
11:41:17 am tenartemis: Q4) Can you tie performance metrics into social learning experiences? Can you prove improvement over time? #lrnchat
11:41:23 am LauraLJ: #lrnchat Q4) it’s risk assessment: the benefits of supporting (not forcing) informal learning opportunities outweigh the risks
11:41:28 am nimblecopy: RT @C4LPT Q4) So watch out for all the new systems that are going to “measure” social learning! #lrnchat
11:41:30 am JaneBozarth: yeah…RT @OpenSesameNow Social learning measurement tools probably just as useful as the tools to measure ROI on social media. #lrnchat
11:41:40 am mrch0mp3rs: RT @tenartemis: Q4) Can you tie performance metrics into social learning experiences? Can you prove improvement over time? #lrnchat
11:41:47 am Barb_D: RT @StephanieDaul: Q4) we dont even know what social learning is…how can you measure what you cant define. <Amen #lrnchat
11:41:50 am JaneBozarth: @dawnladams you said no before. Ok… #lrnchat
11:41:53 am dawnjmahoney: @catherine_delia yay! (hoped I wasn’t all the way out on my own there) #lrnchat
11:42:08 am LnDDave: RT @Barb_D: Participating in my first Twitter Chat! Cool!!! #lrnchat WELCOME!
11:42:23 am adfunkster: #lrnchat it’s not always the tool that needs to be measured. more often it is the result of interaction with the tool that needs measuring.
11:42:25 am Dave_Ferguson: @tenartemis I’m conducting my own n=1 experiment on tracking improvement following informal learning. #lrnchat
11:42:30 am mrch0mp3rs: @tenartemis With the data, you can make the case for correlation between social learning (by any definition) and performance #lrnchat
11:42:35 am JudithELS: Got to dash (slowly!). Thanks for having me & the superb chat this pm. See you all next week. #lrnchat
11:42:37 am bschlenker: @mrch0mp3rs @tenartemis Yes. But the proof is in the biz results. #lrnchat
11:42:40 am RyanJSegrist: Q4 Maybe instead of performance, we could measure influence in social learning. Define outcomes in terms of behavior probability #lrnchat
11:42:45 am MimiBarbara: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4) Very interested in how people find information that ties to their performance and improving that seeking speed. #lrnchat
11:42:54 am dawnladams: But ask right q’s. Temp isn’t one I’d ask. RT @JaneBozarth: @dawnladams you said no, it shouldn’t ? I don’t understand. #lrnchat
11:43:06 am alc47: RT @c4lpt: For me (and ITA #inttime) learning=working=learning @alc47 @LauraLJ Agreed so the measure is performance! #lrnchat
11:43:09 am anthonyloftis: Q4) Marketers struggle to measure the impact of social media, and their jobs depend on results from campaigns. #lrnchat
11:43:14 am chettbradley: RT @RyanJSegrist: RT @JaneBozarth: @barrydahl that’s why workplace learning should be more clearly distinguished from an academic ‘course’ #lrnchat
11:43:14 am LauraLJ: #lrnchat Q4) perhaps if we have more conversations with people- find out how they learned to do their job instead of ticking boxes…
11:43:24 am LnDDave: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4) Very interested in how people find information that ties to their performance and improving that seeking speed. #lrnchat
11:43:36 am dawnjmahoney: @JaneBozarth Title: SoMe for FUN & business improvement (publish or perish inherent subtext) #lrnchat
11:43:40 am urbie: @bschlenker: @mrch0mp3rs @tenartemis Yes. But the proof is in the biz results. #lrnchat .. and human factors: less absenteeism, accidents..
11:43:43 am mrch0mp3rs: Q4) The “measuring” isn’t rocket science. Getting us to stop mesauring what’s “easy” to measure and start on what’s important is. #lrnchat
11:43:48 am bschlenker: @Barb_D I didn’t realize this was you first chat. I hope you take some time to reflect at the end and report back. #lrnchat
11:43:48 am 2GFred: RT @LauraLJ: #lrnchat Q4) perhaps if we have more conversations with people- find out how they learned to do their job #lrnchat
11:43:50 am _Kavi: RT @LauraLJ: #lrnchat Q4) perhaps if we have more conversations with people- find out how they learned to do job instead of ticking boxes
11:43:53 am LnDDave: RT @LauraLJ: #lrnchat Q4) perhaps if we have more conversations with people- find out how they learned … instead of ticking boxes…
11:44:11 am OpenSesameNow: A case study! RT @dave_ferguson: I’m conducting my own n=1 experiment on tracking improvement following informal learning. #lrnchat
11:44:29 am Barb_D: RT @bschlenker: @Barb_D I hope you take some time to reflect at the end and report back. <Will do! #lrnchat
11:44:32 am KristiBroom: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4) The “measuring” isnt rocket science. Getting us to stop mesauring whats “easy” and start on whats important is. #Lrnchat
11:44:39 am mpalko: Q4) maybe we need to work backwards. Find the top performers first, then ask how they became that way #lrnchat
11:44:51 am dawnjmahoney: RT @LauraLJ: Q4) perhaps if we have more conversations with people- find out how they learned …instead of ticking boxes|huh! #lrnchat
11:44:54 am langholloman: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @mrch0mp3rs I’m a fan of data, but if you get too granular, you end up with bags of beach sand. Don’t collect just b/c you CAN. #lrnchat
11:45:01 am bschlenker: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4) The “measuring” isnt rocket science. stop mesauring whats “easy” to measure and start on whats important is. #lrnchat
11:45:05 am JaneBozarth: RT @mpalko: Q4) maybe we need to work backwards. Find the top performers first, then ask how they became that way #lrnchat
11:45:16 am Dave_Ferguson: Tom Gilbert noted that before you can measure, you have to ID the requirements for performance. Orgs tend to forget that part. #lrnchat
11:45:17 am mrch0mp3rs: I’d argue this goes as much on our collective shoulders as it does to the leaders of orgs: expect better. Seriously. #lrnchat
11:45:17 am RyanJSegrist: RT @mpalko: Q4) maybe we need to work backwards. Find the top performers first, then ask how they became that way #lrnchat
11:45:17 am catherine_delia: Like it. RT @mpalko: Q4) maybe we need to work backwards. Find the top performers first, then ask how they became that way #lrnchat
11:45:24 am tenartemis: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4) “measuring” isnt rckt sci Getting us to stop mesauring whats “easy” to measure and start on whats important is #lrnchat
11:45:24 am Barb_D: RT @mpalko: Q4) maybe we need to work backwards. Find the top performers first, then ask how they became that way #lrnchat
11:45:26 am adfunkster: I agree @mrch0mp3rs: Q4) … Getting us to stop mesauring what’s “easy” to measure and start on what’s important is. #lrnchat
11:45:30 am JaneBozarth: @mpalko bet some wouldn’t like the answer to that. #lrnchat
11:45:36 am LauraLJ: #lrnchat Q4) doesn’t it come back to measuring performance
11:45:41 am scogill: @mpalko also interview average / poor performers and see what’s different! #lrnchat
11:45:45 am LnDDave: RT @Dave_Ferguson: … before you can measure, you have to ID the requirements for performance. Orgs tend to forget that part. #lrnchat
11:45:51 am sifowler: <drive-by> Hello #lrnchat tweeps. Man, I miss you guys. Just not the space for it these days. Hope that’ll change soon.
11:45:55 am elliotross: Good Q RT @KatieStroudPro: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:45:57 am lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too. #lrnchat
11:45:58 am LnDDave: RT @mrch0mp3rs: I’d argue this goes as much on our collective shoulders as it does to the leaders of orgs: expect better. Seriously. #lrnchat
11:46:00 am alc47: RT @LauraLJ: #lrnchat Q4) more chat with people- how learned to do job instead of ticking boxes…Maybe tells us what to do to help #lrnchat
11:46:01 am dawnjmahoney: I feel like we’ve come completely full circle here. What is measured/why/why not/who cares/No don’t do it… :-) #lrnchat
11:46:06 am RyanJSegrist: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too. #lrnchat
11:46:16 am KatieStroudPro: RT @LnDDave: RT @Dave_Ferguson: … before you can measure, you have to ID the requirements for performance. Orgs tend to forget that part. #lrnchat
11:46:21 am _Kavi: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too. #lrnchat
11:46:21 am JaneBozarth: @mpalko Bet answer will never be, “Oh, I am a top performer because I spent 6 days of my career in your leadership academy.” #lrnchat
11:46:22 am gdochuk: As former prof I tried to ‘force’ postings. utter failure! @JaneBozarth Had prof who graded based on # of posts to discuss. board. #lrnchat
11:46:26 am c4lpt: q4) This fixation with “measuring learning” is old world thinking; we’re moving into new world thinking #lrnchat
11:46:33 am LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too. #lrnchat
11:46:39 am LeeMarkDavies: “Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat” – isn’t that for individuals to do?
11:46:39 am KristiBroom: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too. #Lrnchat
11:46:41 am nimblecopy: RT @LauraLJ: #lrnchat Q4) perhaps if we have more conversations with people- find out how they learned to do their job instead of ticking boxes…
11:46:54 am catherine_delia: RT @c4lpt: q4) This fixation with “measuring learning” is old world thinking; were moving into new world thinking #lrnchat
11:46:58 am Barb_D: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too. #lrnchat
11:47:01 am urbie: #lrnchat qwrap.. urbie delgado, instructional designer, washington (cherry trees in bloom), dc, focus: (re)humanizing distance ed..
11:47:05 am c4lpt: Qwrap) To explain the elephant references earlier this is Elephant Learning aka E-Learning ;) #lrnchat http://twitpic.com/4fd5du
11:47:09 am KristiBroom: Really good questions again today. Many thanks to the author! #Lrnchat
11:47:26 am chettbradley: Deets? RT @JaneBozarth: I expect all of you to show up on time for my new mandatory social learning program.Tomorrow 10 am ET.#lrnchat
11:47:28 am Dave_Ferguson: Dave Ferguson, 6 hours into reorg of my digital files–like re-articulating your own skeleton. Or mine. #lrnchat
11:47:30 am 2GFred: QW) Fred Stevens, Bus Perf Improvement & Pers Growth Coaching. Joined late, but learned a lot as usual! Thanks everyone! #lrnchat
11:47:37 am jungleejanwar: RT @_Kavi: Q4) There needs to be a movement against ‘measuring everything’ ! Somethings cant be. Lets get real ! #lrnchat
11:47:43 am JaneBozarth: Jane, Raleigh, world’s oldest millenial, new iPad2 owner, wicked problem. Buy all my books. #lrnchat
11:47:59 am bschlenker: Qwrap) Brent Schlenker – PhxAZ – Pumped for mLearnCon in June – Plotting for DevLearn in Nov. – [insert letter]Learning #lrnchat
11:48:02 am chettbradley: RT @adfunkster: #lrnchat it’s not always the tool that needs to be measured. more often it is the result of interaction with the tool that needs measuring.
11:48:03 am mpalko: Qwrap) Michael Palko trainer / community mgr Raleigh NC. Spent my lunch hour with a bunch of top performers #lrnchat
11:48:07 am alc47: RT @c4lpt: q4) This fixation with “measuring learning” is old world thinking; were moving into new world thinking. Totally agree #lrnchat
11:48:11 am LnDDave: QW) David Kelly, Training Director from NYC, looking forward to future opportunities! #lrnchat
11:48:13 am MimiBarbara: Qwrap) Barbara Smith, Atlanta #lrnchat
11:48:33 am dawnjmahoney: I’m still here near Mad-Town USA (heard of r Gov lately?) Enjoy you all! #lrnchat
11:48:33 am tenartemis: Qwrap) Kristen Boettcher, Formerly Employed Trainer, Orlando, FL. First full #lrnchat participation. #lrnchat
11:48:38 am Barb_D: Barb David. Education Manager. DC area association. Loved my first chat here! Enjoyed “meeting” you all! I’ll be back :) #lrnchat
11:48:47 am alc47: RT @c4lpt: Qwrap) To explain the elephant refs this is Elephant Learning aka E-Learning ;) #lrnchat http://twitpic.com/4fd5du #lrnchat
11:48:58 am chettbradley: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @tenartemis I’m conducting my own n=1 experiment. #lrnchat Don’t forget to fill in your ethical consent form!
11:48:59 am RyanJSegrist: QW) Ryan Segrist in DC, learn learn learning all the time. Thanks everyone for a great #lrnchat!
11:49:05 am OpenSesameNow: Kelly, from the OpenSesame elearning marketplace. Shameless plug for our sweet learning blog: www.opensesame.com/blog #lrnchat
11:49:07 am MimiBarbara: RT @KristiBroom: Really good questions again today. Many thanks to the author! #lrnchat
11:49:16 am _Kavi: RT @_Kavi: Kavi. Mumbai. Learner. For a long time now. #lrnchat
11:49:21 am 2GFred: @tenartemis Hope you enjoyed it. Thanks for getting involved! #lrnchat
11:49:23 am scogill: will there be donuts? RT @JaneBozarth I expect all of you to show up on time for my new mandatory social learning program. #lrnchat
11:49:36 am nimblecopy: RT @lrnchat Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome, too. #lrnchat
11:49:37 am urbie: #lrnchat http://t.co/VhAEwi0
11:49:37 am JaneBozarth: Love having new folks here. Hope y’all had fun! #lrnchat
11:49:48 am bschlenker: Good topic folks! I’m looking forward to hearing what the night crowd has to say about the topic. Cheers! #lrnchat
11:49:55 am _Kavi: Good questions and wonderful connections ! Thanks all ! RT @_Kavi: RT @_Kavi: Kavi. Mumbai. Learner. For a long time now. #lrnchat
11:49:57 am LnDDave: QW) I often reflect on #lrnchat discussions via my blog, found here: http://bit.ly/aTHCdY
11:49:57 am mrch0mp3rs: Qwrap) Aaron Silvers, Chicago, IL. Follow @LrnEXP. Read my blog (aaronsilvers.com). Ask the hard questions, fight the good fight! #lrnchat
11:50:02 am KristiBroom: Qwrap) Kristi Broom, Minneapolis, MN, learning technology #Lrnchat
11:50:08 am JaneBozarth: @scogill No, but if y’all write that on smile sheets for 10 years, and I don’t look at them, then we will have collected data. #lrnchat
11:50:20 am JaneBozarth: Good stuff> RT @LnDDave: QW) I often reflect on #lrnchat discussions via my blog, found here: http://bit.ly/aTHCdY #lrnchat
11:50:24 am jungleejanwar: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @Barb_D: RT @TriciaRansom: Formative = tasting soup as you prepare it. Summative = tasting after it’s served. #lrnchat
11:50:27 am scogill: #lrnchat Qwrap) Sarah – Atlanta – always looking to learn how to do things better and MAKE improvements! Thanks for a great hour! #lrnchat
11:50:38 am catherine_delia: Fast pace w/ the early group. Adios from Rochester, at the intersection of employee ed and academics. Thanks All! #lrnchat
11:50:46 am nimblecopy: Qwrap) Signing off…Jennie, Nimble Copy, instructional design and copywriting, Portland, Oregon #lrnchat
11:50:46 am flowersprof: Qwrap) Turea Flowers, Atlanta, GA #lrnchat
11:50:48 am dawnjmahoney: @scogill @JaneBozarth And we will have the room temp fixed at least w/in 2-12 degrees of how u like it–promise :-) #lrnchat
11:50:50 am chettbradley: RT @KristiBroom: RT @mrch0mp3rs: Q4) The “measuring” isnt rocket science. Getting us to stop mesauring whats “easy” and start on whats important is. #Lrnchat
11:50:50 am KatieStroudPro: Qwrap) Katie Stroud, training consultant currently partnered with @1080Group take our survey http://ow.ly/4quWN #lrnchat
11:50:51 am adfunkster: #lrnchat Qwrap) Thank you everyone! I enjoyed the time to think and reflect with you. – Dirk Funk, instructional designer from Amarillo, TX
11:51:27 am KavisMusings: Oldest millenial ! Thats aspiraational ! RT @JaneBozarth: Jane, Raleigh, world’s oldest millenial, new iPad2 owner,……. #lrnchat
11:51:34 am LauraLJ: #lrnchat Qwrap) thanks guys for a great conversation see me also @purplelearning and www.purplelearning.co.uk (blog).
11:51:35 am purplelearning: #lrnchat Qwrap) thanks guys for a great conversation see me also @purplelearning and www.purplelearning.co.uk (blog).
11:51:43 am mrch0mp3rs: AND DEFINITELY check out @LnDDave ‘s blog. His #lrnchat reflections are gold http://bit.ly/aTHCdY
11:51:50 am gdochuk: Qwrap) Vancouver BC, new to the field (but not learning), was late to #lrnchat always interested in new opportunities to explore this field
11:52:05 am mrch0mp3rs: And for all my new followers, thanks for pushing me over 1900 today. W00T!!!!! #lrnchat
11:52:10 am chettbradley: Qwrap – relieved I did SO much better this time. Spent 20 minutes ABOVE the 1/2 way mark on the chat scroll bar! :) #lrnchat
11:52:34 am _Kavi: Oldest millenial ! Thats aspirational ! RT @JaneBozarth: Jane, Raleigh, world’s oldest millenial, new iPad2 owner……. #lrnchat
11:52:34 am alc47: We need some real debates here – not creeping concensus. – see you all next week #lrnchat
11:52:48 am 2GFred: @chettbradley congrats! That takes focus and effort! #lrnchat
11:52:49 am mrch0mp3rs: @chettbradley It’s six weeks of hell before the epiphany strikes of how to manage Twitter. Good job! #lrnchat
11:53:16 am JaneBozarth: I’m a little disappointed that our wit and beauty did not attract @BronxZoosCobra in today… #lrnchat
11:53:19 am AndreaMay1: @billcush We hope to see drops in help desk issues, but it also gives real insights about items that are still a training problem. #lrnchat
11:53:39 am LnDDave: For an archive of my #lrnchat posts, check this post: http://bit.ly/g5Qsk7 Thanks for the feedback!
11:54:57 am cristinadiezm: RT @c4lpt: Qwrap) To explain the elephant references earlier this is Elephant Learning aka E-Learning ;) #lrnchat http://twitpic.com/4fd5du
11:55:04 am RyanJSegrist: @JaneBozarth I’m not disappointed to not see @BronxZoosCobra…Its tweets are poisonous! #lrnchat
11:55:10 am cristinadiezm: RT @c4lpt: Q4) So watch out for all the new systems that are going to “measure” social learning! #lrnchat
11:55:33 am chettbradley: Qwrap – Chett, Toronto. Thanks everyone – that was brilliant fun. I’m going to try putting my brain back together now… #lrnchat
11:55:51 am OpenSesameNow: @tenartemis Welcome to #lrnchat! Hope it was engaging.
11:56:22 am TerrenceWing: Congrats RT @mrch0mp3rs: And for all my new followers, thanks for pushing me over 1900 today. W00T!!!!! #lrnchat
11:57:10 am JaneBozarth: @RyanJSegrist @BronxZoosCobra VENOMous, not POISONous. She’s really sensitive about that. #lrnchat
11:57:16 am StephanieDaul: QWrap) Stephanie Daul, Learning Consultant, Chicago – looking for someone with an eval background #lrnchat
11:57:23 am joostrobben: RT @c4lpt: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What about informal and social learning? Can we/should we try to measure that? How? #lrnchat
11:57:44 am joostrobben: RT @c4lpt: Q3) If we see learning as ongoing and not as ad hoc events thats why performance data is more valuable #lrnchat
11:58:18 am AndreaMay1: qwrap) Great discussion today. Visit our blog @dashethomson http://bit.ly/dX18Bt #lrnchat
11:59:13 am lrnchat: Thank you for joining us on #lrnchat. We’ll post the transcript later on http://lrnchat.com. See you next week!
11:59:17 am ReichundRanicki: RT @simbeckhampson: Making sense of the data is work. Collective intelligence is the future. Combining AI and HI. #insights feed #success #lrnchat
11:59:19 am chambo_online: My Twitter BFFs: @lnddave @janebozarth @lrnchat @mrch0mp3rs @kristibroom @cammybean @profgesser. Find yours @ http://twitterbffs.com
11:59:30 am chambo_online: My Twitter BFFs: @lnddave @janebozarth @lrnchat @mrch0mp3rs @cammybean @kristibroom @profgesser. Find yours @ http://twitterbffs.com
11:59:38 am Barb_D: RT @LnDDave: For an archive of my #lrnchat posts, check this post: http://bit.ly/g5Qsk7 Thanks for the feedback! <you are too cool! #lrnchat
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