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February 24, 2012Welcome
January 20, 2012#lrnchat is an online chat over the social messaging service Twitter. #lrnchat is on Thursdays at 8:30-9:30pm ET/5:30-6:30pm PT.
Participants are people interested in the topic of learning from one another and who want to discuss how to help other people learn in formal, informal, social and mobile ways. This summer we aim to renew our commitment to steer clear of topics that are more “training department” oriented (including topics around LMS and instructional design) and focus this time on rather on how people learn, what they learn, and what we’re learning.
The official Twitter account is @lrnchat. Learn more here. Instruction on how to #lrnchat are always available in the sidebar links.
The chats are transcribed to be read after the chats. The times listed in the transcript are based on which member of the #lrnchat moderation crew creates the transcript (and which time-zone they’re creating it from).
We look forward to learning with you.
Transcript 3 November 2011
November 4, 201108:30:53 pm lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been?
08:31:11 pm kelly_smith01: Big plate of hot wing in Mayberry conference room @#fakeDevLearn use handi-wipes before typing please. #lrnchat
08:31:20 pm lrnchat: #lrnchat Tonight’s theme: supporting and connecting learners
08:31:31 pm olliegardener: @rosler that update goes VERY well with your avatar
#lrnchat
08:31:33 pm briandusablon: RT @lrnchat: #lrnchat Tonight’s theme: supporting and connecting learners
08:31:47 pm susannahrl: Trying #lrnchat “live” at #DevLearn. Got some pre-session performance support from @JaneBozarth
08:31:51 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: #lrnchat Tonight’s theme: supporting and connecting learners
08:31:52 pm nancyrubin: Ready for #lrnchat. Tonight’s theme: supporting and connecting learners #lrnchat
08:32:08 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: #lrnchat Tonight’s theme: supporting and connecting learners
08:32:21 pm lrnchat: QIntro) Please introduce yourself: WWW, interests, passions, concerns? #lrnchat
08:32:43 pm kelly_smith01: Q0) Enjoying back-channel play-byplay of #devlearn – #lrnchat
08:32:45 pm rjhogue: RT @lrnchat: #lrnchat Tonights theme: supporting and connecting learners #lrnchat
08:32:48 pm LisaAGoldstein: Live from #devlearn so double hashtagging QT @lrnchat: #lrnchat Tonight’s theme: supporting and connecting learners
08:32:52 pm britz: RT @lrnchat: #lrnchat Tonights theme: supporting and connecting learners / hmm, “learners”? cn’t we just say ppl? workers? #lrnchat
08:33:05 pm LnDDave: Tonight’s #lrnchat comes from #devlearn demofest: here’s a pano pic that shows the scale of the event http://t.co/0xbviKl6
08:33:06 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: QIntro) Please introduce yourself: WWW, interests, passions, concerns? #lrnchat
08:33:30 pm rjhogue: QIntro) Rebecca from Ottawa – PhD student – mLearning and MOOCs
had a great time at mlearn2011 two weeks ago in Beijing #lrnchat
08:33:35 pm JaneBozarth: Hi folks from the #DevLearn Demofest floor . Well, not the floor really. I’m in a chair. #lrnchat
08:33:43 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: QIntro) Please introduce yourself: WWW, interests, passions, concerns? #lrnchat
08:33:49 pm criticallearner: Welcome #devlearn folks to the #lrnchat activity stream. Jump on in. Water’s fine. David Glow, Tampa, FL
08:33:53 pm britz: @LnDDave Daaaaaaaaave! #lrnchat
08:34:05 pm atsc: #lrnchat Andrew Chambers from University of New South Wales, An educational developer. Looks an interesting theme… Long time since here…
08:34:11 pm chambo_online: What up #lrnchat! Coming to you live from #devlearn,! #Lrnchat
08:34:16 pm chris_saeger: Qintro) roanoke va, helping people reach their goals through learning #lrnchat
08:34:29 pm JaneBozarth: Jane,RDU,livin’ it up at the Aria.What I did at 3 http://t.co/Wqi5SdaK #lrnchat
08:34:32 pm asbergman: Qintro) Andy from Indianapolis, IN – Product Release Training Manager. First #lrnchat #lrnchat
08:34:33 pm sue_freeman1: @TriciaRansom #lrnchat Let’s get this party started!
08:34:44 pm rosler: #lrnchat Q0) Shawn Rosler, developer, innovator, Captivater for a healthcare system in central PA. shawnrosler.blogspot.com
08:34:47 pm meganbowe: #DevLearn #lrnchat weeee
08:34:51 pm TriciaRansom: Juiced up, got wine, seat, and table. Ready to #lrnchat
08:35:08 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: QIntro) Please introduce yourself: WWW, interests, passions, concerns? #lrnchat
08:35:10 pm chris_saeger: @LnDDave Thanks for the backchannel. great work #lrnchat
08:35:10 pm chet_stevenson: Chester Stevenson, Instructional Designer/Trainer, Columbia, Missouri #lrnchat
08:35:12 pm kelly_smith01: Q0) Kelly Smith, freelancer – enjoying #devlearn chatter and #fakeDevLearn stuff – #lrnchat
08:35:25 pm HadiyaNuriddin: Q) 1 Intro #lrnchat I’m Hadiya, freelance ID in Chicago, living the ID dream, but ironically, first time lrnchatting.
08:35:28 pm lrnchat: Q0. What have you learned today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:35:48 pm susannahrl: Susannah, learning manager at Humana. Indoor rock climbing enthusiast and learning technology junkie #DevLearn #lrnchat
08:35:52 pm olliegardener: qintro) http://t.co/HcAGpJWb Passion: the potential of tech to facilitate, enable and engage learning in communities. #lrnchat
08:35:58 pm chambo_online: Much to the Bozarth’s joy, I am actually doing #lrnchat from an Apple product #Lrnchat
08:36:09 pm chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Q0. What have you learned today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:36:14 pm rjhogue: RT @lrnchat: Q0. What have you learned today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:36:14 pm LnDDave: @britz marrrrrrk!!! People miss you here man. #lrnchat
08:36:14 pm kelly_smith01: Q0) Learned that is a patience is a virtue even if it does not feel like it. #lrnchat
08:36:15 pm innovativesarah: #lrnchat Q0) Sarah Bloomfield (Carr), OD consultant, ID, innovator, blogger at http://t.co/En4Uu6XU. Chillin’ at #devlearn.
08:36:24 pm nancyrubin: attending #lrnchat from NY tonight. In the process of changing careers and locations. Twitterholic who is passionate about learning #lrnchat
08:36:28 pm stickylearning: Michael Eury, Learning Designer lurking in Melbourne Australia #lrnchat
08:36:48 pm alc47: Q0 that my fiends I’ ve never met before are wonderful people at DevLearn #Lrnchat
08:36:48 pm criticallearner: @LnDDave Thanks for the backchannel. great work #lrnchat > Seriously, indebted to you Mr. Kelly.
08:36:49 pm innovativesarah: #lrnchat Q0) I learned that content curation is the new content creation — and that I do more of it than I thought!
08:36:55 pm LisaAGoldstein: QT @TriciaRansom: Juiced up, got wine, seat, and table. Ready to #lrnchat Where are you?!? #devlearn
08:36:55 pm britz: Mark Britz, Mngr Learning Solutions, Syracuse NY … Eastern US site of #fakedevlearn. Yeah, that’s right we’re global! #lrnchat
08:37:00 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q0. What have you learned today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:37:00 pm TriciaRansom: This is Tricia, not in Chicago. I’m in Vegas baby!! #lrnchat
08:37:25 pm LearnNuggets: Kevin Thorn – NuggetHead Studioz – eLearning design #Lrnchat
08:37:26 pm kelly_smith01: @nancyrubin Congratulations on career change – keep Tweeting and posting links etc. #lrnchat
08:37:26 pm chris_saeger: Q0) am learning that there is life after work #lrnchat
08:37:27 pm Tracy_Parish: Tracy Parish, Newmarket, Ont. ID, LMS admin. Jill of all trades. #lrnchat participating from #devlearn
08:37:45 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q0. What have you learned today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:37:46 pm innovativesarah: RT @lrnchat: Q0. What have you learned today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:37:46 pm stickylearning: This week I’ve learnt that having your money riding on a horse that finishes second in the Melbourne Cup by just 2cm sucks! #lrnchat
08:37:48 pm rdeis: Ray Deis, Regina SK Canada. Live from the floor of DemoFest. Really on the floor all the chairs are taken. #Lrnchat
08:37:51 pm britz: @LnDDave Aww, thanks Dave – I have been feeling the love. My day will come. #lrnchat
08:37:55 pm nancyrubin: RT @innovativesarah: #lrnchat – learned that content curation is the new content creation — and I do more of it than I thought! #lrnchat
08:38:05 pm LisaAGoldstein: Lisa Goldstein, tweeting live from #devlearn! #lrnchat
08:38:06 pm rjhogue: Q0) timezones are a pain at this time of year, with everyone changing off of Daylight savings on different weekends! #lrnchat
08:38:12 pm chet_stevenson: Q0) I conceptualized that Skills training>Quasi-Training>Awareness Training #lrnchat
08:38:19 pm briandusablon: Q0) Brian Dusablon. I live at Todd English Pub in Vegas. I care about usability and accessibility. And real beer. #Lrnchat
08:38:20 pm nancyrubin: @kelly_smith01 Thanks!! #lrnchat
08:38:26 pm alc47: q0 I’ ve learned that Jane Bozarthzone is a really lovely supportive person! #Lrnchat
08:38:43 pm marciamarcia: Marcia Conner, founder of this party [err umm embedded learning opportunity], far from #devlearn, hearing great things. #lrnchat
08:38:46 pm LnDDave: ‚Äú@criticallearner: @LnDDave Thanks for the backchannel. great work #lrnchat > Seriously, indebted to you Mr. Kelly.‚Äù my pleasure… TRULY
08:38:47 pm TriciaRansom: Q0) I’ve learned that it’s a blast meeting fellow #lrnchat ers IRL!
08:38:50 pm briandusablon: Q0) I learned how to draw a clown from @learnnuggets. #Lrnchat
08:38:56 pm MariaOD: Q0.Maria, OD Specialist from Columbus, Ohio>>What was in that drink that I got at demofest? #devlearn #lrnchat
08:38:58 pm susannahrl: RT @lrnchat: Q0. What have you learned today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:39:00 pm C4LPT: #lrnchat qintro) Jane Hart joining #lrnchat from #devlearn tonight #lrnchat
08:39:04 pm MMTingley: Q0) Melissa Tingley, eLearning ID consultant and general edu-geek, Boston trying to adjust to new keybpard ‘scuse the typos 2nite.
#lrnchat
08:39:10 pm HadiyaNuriddin: Q0) #lrnchat I learned that iSpring let’s you use triggers for animation. I think I have a crush.
08:39:11 pm s0ngb1rd: Q0 I’ve learned that there is such a thing as good southern hospitality #lrnchat
08:39:14 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat Q0> Learned I married one of Siegfried/Roy’s tigers at #fakedevlearn last night (sorry, missing #devlearn, must cr8 new reality)
08:39:48 pm LisaAGoldstein: RT @lrnchat: Q0. What have you learned today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:39:56 pm asbergman: Q0) Customer service is just as important in training as it is in any part of your organization. #lrnchat
08:39:59 pm LearnNuggets: Q0) I learned how to say, “my feet hurt in Russian.” – “Voshi Nogi Bloyat” (I think that’s the spelling)
#Lrnchat
08:40:02 pm cammybean: #devlearn hanging at live #lrnchat!
08:40:02 pm LnDDave: David Kelly, training director from NYC, curator of #devlearn 2011 #lrnchat
08:40:09 pm b5alive: #lrnchat brian kalisch – nerd, gamer, wearer-of-many-hats for a non-profit. Been drinking from the firehose this week.
08:40:12 pm MariaOD: I learned that Jay Cross is ornery and kinda cute for a guy who wants to blow up the training department. #devlearn #lrnchat
08:40:13 pm chambo_online: Lisa Chamberlin freelance ID Walla Walla, WA and currently Las Vegas with a margarita by my side *drinking game* #Lrnchat
08:40:25 pm kelly_smith01: Q0) Found some new folks to follow on Twitter and blogs via #devlearn back channel #lrnchat
08:40:25 pm JaneBozarth: Q0 Learned more about design experiences, curation, and physics! #lrnchat
08:40:27 pm meganbowe: Q0) I learned that a little pre-session prep goes a long way in successful back channeling #lrnchat
08:40:38 pm s0ngb1rd: Q0 Also that man and machine are becoming seamless #lrnchat
08:40:43 pm MMTingley: Q0) I learned that sometimes “no” is the right answer. #lrnchat
08:40:45 pm kasey428: #lrnchat Q0) I learnr
08:40:47 pm nancyrubin: Q0) Learned that faculty need ID support when developing courses. They may be OK teaching and using LMS but not really at design. #lrnchat
08:40:50 pm rdeis: Q0 The way we play today is the way we work tomorrow. Design learning with that in mind. HT @tkspeaks #Lrnchat
08:40:54 pm JaneBozarth: @britz I’m not a ‘worker’, comrade. #lrnchat
08:40:57 pm ronindotca: Cameron Campbell, Canuck based in Christchurch NZ at Lincoln Uni. It’s a breezy spring day here, hi all #lrnchat
08:41:03 pm ChristyATucker: Christy Tucker, ID in NC, recently made the move to freelance #lrnchat
08:41:04 pm criticallearner: RT @mariaod: Learned that Jay Cross is ornery + kinda cute 4 a guy who wants to blow up the training department. #devlearn #lrnchat >awesome
08:41:05 pm britz: Q0) I learned I don’t tolerate org politics… never have. Just want some Autonomy, mastery & purpose …its what motivates me
#lrnchat
08:41:16 pm chet_stevenson: @chambo_online How can you be online while you’re in Vegas? Something not right there. #lrnchat
08:41:21 pm briandusablon: Q0) I learned a lot from really smart people at #devlearn. #Lrnchat
08:41:22 pm LnDDave: Q0) I learned that next year I’m going to skip DevLearn to attend #fakedevlearn 2012 on Mars. #lrnchat
08:41:23 pm dbolen: Don Bolen ATL hanging at #devlearn #Lrnchat
08:41:23 pm olliegardener: LoL RT @MariaOD: I learned that @jaycross’s ornery & kinda cute for a guy who wants to blow up the training department. #devlearn #lrnchat
08:41:28 pm susannahrl: Q0) I learned that learning tech folks have stopped saying “web 2.0″ because it’s just part of everyday life now #DevLearn #lrnchat
08:41:35 pm StephenCHudson: #lrnchat today I learned how to publish Flash to mobile devices at #DevLearn . Worth the price of admission in 1 hour. Thx @canadianpacman
08:41:36 pm agilistine: Q0) Learned that next year I want to go to #DevLearn #lrnchat
08:41:41 pm ronindotca: q0) I was reminded, once again, that IT departments should be called “The department for the suppression of innovation”. #lrnchat
08:41:42 pm NixTheNext: #lrnchat q0) becky from chicago, dev’er, loving #devlearn!
08:41:43 pm Tracy_Parish: RT @Tracy_Parish Learned that being able to do 300 clicks/mouse movements in 1 minute will make me a Starcraft champion #lrnchat @hybridkris
08:41:44 pm MariaOD: Q0. I learned that our librarians have been curating factual, useful, and good content for ages. #lrnchat
08:41:58 pm asbergman: RT @britz: Q0) I learned I dont tolerate org politics, never have. Just want some Autonomy, mastery & purpose,its what motivates me #lrnchat
08:42:00 pm LearnNuggets: Q0) learned that everyone at #devlearn have the same challenges. Better design #Lrnchat
08:42:04 pm b5alive: Q0) I’ve learned that live #lrnchat is chaotic fun.
08:42:08 pm britz: @JaneBozarth learners of the world unite! eh, just doesn’t have same punch
#lrnchat
08:42:08 pm marciamarcia: Today I learned that #pumpkinchunkin won’t be televised for another 11 days. @clarkeconner is heartbroken! #lrnchat
08:42:17 pm kelly_smith01: RT @LearnNuggets: Q0) learned that everyone at #devlearn have the same challenges. Better design #Lrnchat
08:42:18 pm nancyrubin: Hope you all will blog about your #devlearn experiences. It is great to read along with you all. (in addition to Twitter!) #lrnchat
08:42:22 pm lrnchat: Q1 How can we help support learning in the workflow, rather than as separate formal event? #lrnchat
08:42:24 pm JaneBozarth: RT @ronindotca: q0)reminded, once again, that IT departments should be called “The department for the suppression of innovation”. #lrnchat
08:42:35 pm LearnNuggets: RT @ronindotca: q0) I was reminded, that IT departments should be called “The department for the suppression of innovation”. #Lrnchat
08:42:35 pm KateHawk216: Trying #lrnchat live @ #devlearn. Thanks 4 making me stay @ the table.
08:42:36 pm rjhogue: Question, is there an academic stream at devlearn?
#lrnchat
08:42:40 pm kasey428: Q0) I learned that my attention span is much shorter than I thought….info overload. #lrnchat
08:42:40 pm MMTingley: RT @britz: @JaneBozarth learners of the world unite! eh, just doesnt have same punch
#lrnchat
08:42:46 pm chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Q1 How can we help support learning in the workflow, rather than as separate formal event? #lrnchat
08:42:46 pm innovativesarah: #lrnchat Q0) Yeah, DevLearn is great, but it’s sooo today. #l2011 starts on Sunday ![]()
08:42:49 pm sue_freeman1: Q0 #lrnchat working w/ manager-SMEs, trying to id right material & mode to communicate affective domain material – whoa! Headache.
08:42:52 pm jwillensky: @britz It’s not too late. Speed to JFK. @LnDDave #lrnchat
08:42:56 pm rosler: #lrnchat #DevLearn In person, rockin the LearnChat… http://t.co/932PvG4E
08:42:56 pm rjhogue: RT @lrnchat: Q1 How can we help support learning in the workflow, rather than as separate formal event? #lrnchat
08:42:59 pm LnDDave: Some of the #lrnchat regulars participating live from #devlearn http://t.co/u9oUdf7T
08:42:59 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q1 How can we help support learning in the workflow, rather than as separate formal event? #lrnchat
08:43:03 pm dbolen: Q0 learned that #devlearn is a lot of work! Long hours! #Lrnchat
08:43:03 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q1 How can we help support learning in the workflow, rather than as separate formal event? #lrnchat
08:43:04 pm chambo_online: Q0) I learned that “Vegas Blocks”are much longer than any other city block. #feethurt #Lrnchat
08:43:07 pm ChristyATucker: Q0) I learned that sometimes you just have to tell a client no. Gently. #lrnchat
08:43:21 pm olliegardener: RT @rjhogue: RT @lrnchat: Q1 How can we help support learning in the workflow, rather than as separate formal event? #lrnchat
08:43:25 pm MariaOD: Q0. I learn that HR/OD/L&D are all trying to solve the same business problem. Let’s work together. #lrnchat
08:43:27 pm ChristyATucker: RT @lrnchat: Q1 How can we help support learning in the workflow, rather than as separate formal event? #lrnchat
08:43:30 pm NixTheNext: RT @KateHawk216 Trying #lrnchat live @ #devlearn. Thanks 4 making me stay @ the table.<welcome!
08:43:31 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q1 How can we help support learning in the workflow, rather than as separate formal event? #lrnchat
08:43:34 pm kasey428: @chambo_online How well I know #lrnchat
08:43:34 pm susannahrl: RT @lrnchat: Q1 How can we help support learning in the workflow, rather than as separate formal event? #lrnchat
08:43:35 pm kelly_smith01: RT @ronindotca: q0) I was reminded, again, that IT departments should be called “The dept. for the suppression of innovation”. #lrnchat
08:43:37 pm LnDDave: ‚Äú@chris_saeger: @LnDDave Thanks for the backchannel. great work #lrnchat‚Äù << glad it’s appreciated.
08:43:41 pm MariaOD: RT @criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q1 How can we help support learning in the workflow, rather than as separate formal event? #lrnchat
08:43:44 pm rjhogue: Q1) better usability for tools … funny that usability best practices are known, put often not used! #lrnchat
08:43:46 pm C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q1 How can we help support learning in the workflow, rather than as separate formal event? #lrnchat
08:43:52 pm chet_stevenson: Q1) Performance Support, and enable leaders to support their employees learning on the job. #lrnchat
08:43:54 pm cammybean: #devlearn Live #lrnchat happening now. http://t.co/Bn5YknIA
08:43:56 pm atsc: #lrnchat Q0) Learned the power of linkedin for creating networks…
08:43:59 pm alc47: Q1 By positioning ourselves in the workflow – that way we understand #Lrnchat
08:44:05 pm NixTheNext: RT @LnDDave: Some of the #lrnchat regulars participating live from #devlearn http://t.co/u9oUdf7T
08:44:06 pm marciamarcia: First up: RT @lrnchat: Q1 How can we help support learning in the workflow, rather than as separate formal event? #lrnchat
08:44:07 pm JaneBozarth: Q1. Listen. #lrnchat
08:44:11 pm ronindotca: Oh, and I also learned that there is something past jealous… I found this out after reading #develearn posts #lrnchat
08:44:18 pm ChristyATucker: Q1) Can we start by identifying where learning is already happening in the workflow? #lrnchat
08:44:21 pm ryantracey: Ryan from Sydney, g’day all #lrnchat
08:44:28 pm StephenCHudson: #lrnchat intro – participating live at #DevLearn – I do flash development for HR and manage an LMS.
08:44:29 pm asbergman: Q1) creating workflow plans (that you understand) that match the competencies of the work being done by learners. #lrnchat
08:44:34 pm criticallearner: How many people at #devlearn will drink when I type ADDIE? #lrnchat (you’re welcome)
08:44:39 pm chambo_online: Q1) use your platform -whatever it is- to hold your just in time content. #Lrnchat
08:44:42 pm nancyrubin: Q1) Provide real- time training/learning opps (and apps
– let them access info when they need it where they need it. #lrnchat
08:44:48 pm britz: RT @LnDDave: Some of the regulars participating live from #devlearn http://t.co/MbPitrfg / Great pic of the master’s at work #lrnchat
08:44:48 pm innovativesarah: Q1) Make learning part of the experience so you don’t break the flow, meaning less formal (and harder for us to “measure,” sadly). #lrnchat
08:44:53 pm susannahrl: “@JaneBozarth: Q1. Listen. #lrnchat” amen!
08:45:11 pm kelly_smith01: Q1. Embed “learning” into job. Performance support etc. #lrnchat
08:45:14 pm urbie: #lrnchat urbie delgado, instructional designer, FLETC New Mexico, focus: re-humanizing elearning experience
08:45:17 pm MariaOD: Q1: Who’s the expert in the workflow? How are employees finding information and support? #lrnchat
08:45:20 pm dbolen: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1. Listen. ABSOLUTELY #Lrnchat
08:45:30 pm chet_stevenson: RT @innovativesarah: Q1) Make learning part of the experience so you dont break the flow, meaning less formal #lrnchat
08:45:32 pm asbergman: RT @nancyrubin: Q1) Provide real-time training/learning opps & apps – let them access info when they need it where they need it. #lrnchat
08:45:34 pm britz: RT @ChristyATucker: Q1) Can we start by identifying where learning is already happening in the workflow? / pave the cow path! #lrnchat
08:45:35 pm criticallearner: Q1> What do they use when working? Go right there. #lrnchat
08:45:37 pm LearnNuggets: Q1) Let go. The formal workflow doesn’t work much anymore #Lrnchat
08:45:38 pm nancyrubin: RT @kelly_smith01: Q1. Embed “learning” into job. Performance support etc. #lrnchat
08:45:38 pm ryantracey: Q1) Access to knowledge/info/content at the point of need, when it’s needed #lrnchat
08:45:44 pm kasey428: Q1)A simple employee support system in the form of a wiki or info database that one can access from the intranet or browser tab #lrnchat
08:45:45 pm s0ngb1rd: Q1 Think ‘support’ ‘guidance’and ‘responsiveness’ #lrnchat
08:45:46 pm klowey22: q1- connect people to people (through culture, process and tools) #lrnchat
08:45:50 pm LnDDave: ‚Äú@jwillensky: @britz It’s not too late. Speed to JFK. @LnDDave #lrnchat‚Äù Speed and JFK are concepts that don’t mesh well…
08:45:51 pm briandusablon: I’m out. Going to enjoy these people IRL while I can. Enjoy! #Lrnchat
08:45:51 pm MMTingley: Q1) Access to information. They not only need it, but need to know how to find it. #lrnchat
08:46:03 pm kasey428: RT @LearnNuggets: Q1) Let go. The formal workflow doesnt work much anymore #lrnchat
08:46:04 pm JaneBozarth: Q1 Find conversations: where are they talking w each other about perofrmance issues. #lrnchat
08:46:05 pm stickylearning: Q1 it’s a large part cultural & a smaller part providing simple tools to find the knowledge people need #lrnchat
08:46:09 pm olliegardener: RT @klowey22: q1- connect people to people (through culture, process and tools) #lrnchat
08:46:09 pm innovativesarah: RT @nancyrubin: Q1) Provide real- time training/learning opps (and apps
– let them access info when they need it where they need it. #lrnchat
08:46:10 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1. Listen. #lrnchat
08:46:19 pm kasey428: RT @klowey22: q1- connect people to people (through culture, process and tools) #lrnchat
08:46:23 pm susannahrl: #lrnchat Q)1 make sure we are actually giving learners what they need and make available for EASY on demand access
08:46:32 pm rosler: Q1) By fostering an environment where mistakes are viewed as learning events rather than problems. #lrnchat
08:46:35 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q0 what have i learned today? Learned that #DevLearn is a must-do experience for someone like me .. how to do next year?
08:46:41 pm NixTheNext: Q1 link to performance support materials in workflow documentation. link performance support to cbt & SoMe channels #devlearn #lrnchat
08:46:47 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) design to help ppl overcome a challenge in-the-moment, rather than to pass an assessment. #lrnchat
08:46:48 pm asbergman: Especially social platform tools … RT @klowey22: q1- connect people to people (through culture, process and tools) #lrnchat
08:46:52 pm MariaOD: Q1) Make learning invisible. Like electricity. It’s everywhere but nowhere. #michiokaku #lrnchat
08:46:55 pm britz: RT @MMTingley: Q1) Access to information. They not only need it, but need to know how to find it. / Access to ppl is key #lrnchat
08:47:01 pm criticallearner: Q1> Go where they work. Combine with the tools (sticker on fire extinguisher > thorough user manual) #lrnchat
08:47:01 pm rjhogue: @LearnNuggets I’m not sure I agree that it doesn’t work anymore … in some organizations they want formal learning/networking #lrnchat
08:47:04 pm rdeis: Q1 Ask people how they would like to access the learning or what barriers are in their way. #Lrnchat
08:47:07 pm ryantracey: Redefines what it means to learn – RT @MMTingley Q1) Access to information. They not only need it, but need to know how to find it. #lrnchat
08:47:08 pm asbergman: RT @rosler: Q1) By fostering an environment where mistakes are viewed as learning events rather than problems. #lrnchat
08:47:11 pm C4LPT: #lrnchat q1 build on what’s already happening
08:47:13 pm olliegardener: q1) by starting with the individual and what they need now to GTD. #lrnchat
08:47:16 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q1 how can we help support learning in the workflow rather than as a separate formal event?
08:47:21 pm ChristyATucker: Yes! RT @rosler: Q1) By fostering an environment where mistakes are viewed as learning events rather than problems. #lrnchat
08:47:21 pm Tracy_Parish: #lrnchat http://t.co/NoBT0IMJ Happening now!
08:47:22 pm LearnNuggets: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) design to help ppl overcome a challenge in-the-moment, rather than to pass an assessment. #Lrnchat
08:47:29 pm stickylearning: RT @MariaOD: Q1) Make learning invisible. Like electricity. It’s everywhere but nowhere. #michiokaku #lrnchat
08:47:31 pm StephenCHudson: Q1) social learning will help with integrated learning. People are learning all the time, embrace it and assist – #lrnchat
08:47:33 pm LnDDave: Q1) if learners need to stop working to start learning… Start over. #lrnchat
08:47:33 pm HadiyaNuriddin: Q1) #lrnchat Encourage a culture of experimentation on the job. Boy, will you learn quick.
08:47:35 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) View learning/performance improvement as a pull event or user-driven (on-going) event. #lrnchat
08:47:37 pm olliegardener: RT @asbergman: RT @rosler: Q1) By fostering an environment where mistakes are viewed as learning events rather than problems. #lrnchat
08:47:37 pm kburpee: RT @LnDDave: Tonight’s #lrnchat comes from #devlearn demofest: here’s a pano pic that shows the scale of the event http://t.co/0xbviKl6
08:47:46 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) make job aids and performance support tools easy to find and in the moment…not buried 19 clicks deep in an LMS. #lrnchat
08:47:49 pm rjhogue: @MMTingley I’d go one step further .. make information EASY to find… not buried … #lrnchat
08:47:51 pm LnDDave: RT @LearnNuggets: Q1) Let go. The formal workflow doesn’t work much anymore #Lrnchat
08:48:07 pm MMTingley: RT @stickylearning: RT @MariaOD: Q1) Make learning invisible. Like electricity. Its everywhere but nowhere. #michiokaku #lrnchat
08:48:12 pm chambo_online: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1 Find conversations: where are they talking w each other about perofrmance issues. #Lrnchat
08:48:13 pm LearnNuggets: RT @C4LPT: #lrnchat q1 build on whats already happening < Yes! And build in the ‘now’ #Lrnchat
08:48:16 pm LisaAGoldstein: Q1) My mind has been heavily on wikis and other ways learners can share through social tools. #Lrnchat
08:48:24 pm C4LPT: #lrnchat q1) liberate your courses from the LMS so they they can be used as desired / required
08:48:30 pm JaneBozarth: Q1 Watch for opps to solve problems, not “train” . #lrnchat
08:48:30 pm TriciaRansom: RT @LnDDave: Q1) if learners need to stop working to start learning… Start over. #lrnchat
08:48:30 pm NixTheNext: @MariaOD electricity is truly nowhere at #devlearn- at least electric outlets! #lrnchat
08:48:31 pm asbergman: Seen any success with this? RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) design to help ppl overcome a challenge in-the-moment, rather than to pass a test #lrnchat
08:48:34 pm ryantracey: Q1) Social learning is key to the workflow #lrnchat
08:48:34 pm ChristyATucker: Q1) I wonder if teaching people better search skills would help learning in the workflow. #lrnchat
08:48:36 pm EternalLearner: RT @C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q1 How can we help support learning in the workflow, rather than as separate formal event? #lrnchat
08:48:44 pm britz: Q1) support/encourage user-generated content efforts and the channels to share it #lrnchat
08:48:51 pm nancyrubin: q1) Provide way for learners to share what they are learning to benefit others in the org. #lrnchat
08:48:52 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q1 spend some time in the shoes of your target population of learners and ask where the pain meets the workflow.
08:49:02 pm susannahrl: RT @TriciaRansom: RT @LnDDave: Q1) if learners need to stop working to start learning… Start over. #lrnchat
08:49:03 pm b5alive: Q1) Stop treating it as a separate event. #lrnchat
08:49:04 pm MMTingley: Searchable. Tags are imortant. @rjhogue: Id go one step further .. make information EASY to find… not buried … #lrnchat
08:49:05 pm denniscallahan: Hi all – dropping in for a bit #lrnchat
08:49:05 pm marciamarcia: To learn in workflow: talk about surprises, share workarounds & improvements, change how work flows next time. #lrnchat
08:49:07 pm ChristyATucker: @LisaAGoldstein Yes, I’m thinking wikis too. Makes the information easier to find, update, search. #lrnchat
08:49:10 pm rosler: #lrnchat Honey Badger will devour your eLearning’s face.
08:49:10 pm criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat and more importantly, give them what they need to build 4 themselves (let go control/enable).
08:49:16 pm EternalLearner: RT @LnDDave: Q1) if learners need to stop working to start learning… Start over. #lrnchat
08:49:22 pm alc47: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1 Watch for opps to solve problems, not “train” . Help people do what they have to do #Lrnchat
08:49:24 pm NixTheNext: RT @LnDDave: Q1) if learners need to stop working to start learning… Start over. #lrnchat
08:49:24 pm LearnNuggets: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1 Watch for opps to solve problems, not “train” . #Lrnchat
08:49:30 pm nancyrubin: Not just search – tagging, too. RT @ChristyATucker: I wonder if teaching people search skills would help learning in the workflow. #lrnchat
08:49:30 pm kasey428: @asbergman Yes, passing a test means nothing! It means you cam take tests or are a good guesser. #lrnchat
08:49:37 pm JaneBozarth: RT @rosler: #lrnchat Honey Badger will devour your eLearnings face. #lrnchat
08:49:42 pm klowey22: RT @LearnNuggets: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1 Watch for opps to solve problems, not “train” . #Lrnchat
08:49:44 pm olliegardener: q1) By moving from delivery of content to enabling context rich know.sharing, social lrn & mutual support on the job #lrnchat
08:49:48 pm kasey428: RT @rosler: #lrnchat Honey Badger will devour your eLearnings face. #lrnchat
08:49:49 pm rjhogue: RT @ChristyATucker: Q1) I wonder if teaching people better search skills would help learning in the workflow. #lrnchat
08:49:49 pm TriciaRansom: @asbergman In my happy place! #lrnchat
08:49:49 pm denniscallahan: Q1) watch a master performer in the workflow, how are they getting what they need? #lrnchat
08:49:53 pm fggutierrez: RT @C4LPT: #lrnchat q1) liberate your courses from the LMS so they they can be used as desired / required
08:50:03 pm MariaOD: Q1: Give learners the tools and the support…then ‘get the heck out of the way’. Let them work. #lrnchat
08:50:04 pm olliegardener: RT @alc47: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1 Watch for opps to solve problems, not “train” . Help people do what they have to do #lrnchat
08:50:06 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q1 make quick-start job-aids learners use as take-aways from a class to help them remember (how to apply) what they just learned
08:50:10 pm asbergman: RT @kasey428: @asbergman Yes, passing a test means nothing! It means you cam take tests or are a good guesser. #lrnchat
08:50:11 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Move away from “learning” as a leader-centric event and more of at-time-of-need or at-time-desired by performer/end-user. #lrnchat
08:50:14 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat Q1> And for pete’s sake, don’t trap it on a moated-castle LMS deployment design (BAD ID! BAD!)
08:50:18 pm LearnNuggets: RT @criticallearner: Q1> give them what they need to build 4 themselves (let go control/enable). < “Let go” is the future. #Lrnchat
08:50:21 pm olliegardener: RT @susannahrl: RT @TriciaRansom: RT @LnDDave: Q1) if learners need to stop working to start learning… Start over. #lrnchat
08:50:29 pm meganbowe: Honey badger doesn’t learn chat, look at @LnDDave #lrnchat #DevLearn http://t.co/4hrgXn4l
08:50:38 pm MariaOD: RT @olliegardener: RT @alc47: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1 Watch for opps to solve problems, not “train”.Help people do what they have to do #lrnchat
08:50:40 pm alc47: @nancyrubin Learned to day that search is dead – better to use Twitter and ask questions! #Lrnchat
08:50:58 pm criticallearner: RT @learnnuggets: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1 Watch for opps to solve problems, not “train” . #Lrnchat
08:51:02 pm NixTheNext: RT @criticallearner: #lrnchat Q1> And for pete’s sake, don’t trap it on a moated-castle LMS deployment design (BAD ID! BAD!)
08:51:08 pm LnDDave: Q1) realize that it’s not about you… #lrnchat
08:51:08 pm olliegardener: RT @LearnNuggets @criticallearner: give them what they need 2 build 4 themselves (let go control/enable). < “Let go” is the future. #lrnchat
08:51:08 pm chambo_online: Honey badger is the new Chuck Norris #Lrnchat
08:51:08 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Careful with job aids. Some job aids should be faded while other job aids are permanent. #lrnchat
08:51:11 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) Design courses that teach ppl to solve common challenges. #lrnchat
08:51:29 pm meganbowe: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q1 How can we help support learning in the workflow, rather than as separate formal event? #lrnchat
08:51:31 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q1 integrate your courses with easy to use (and drop-dead simple to maintain) LMS; they can’t take it (course) if they can’t find.
08:51:32 pm criticallearner: RT @alc47: @nancyrubin Learned to day that search is dead – better to use Twitter and ask questions! #Lrnchat >YES!!
08:51:32 pm chambo_online: RT @criticallearner: #lrnchat Q1> And for petes sake, dont trap it on a moated-castle LMS deployment design (BAD ID! BAD!) #Lrnchat
08:51:41 pm mamaier262: “@cammybean: #devlearn hanging at live #lrnchat!” =(
08:51:45 pm audioswhite: RT @LnDDave: ‚Äú@chris_saeger: @LnDDave Thanks for the backchannel. great work #lrnchat‚Äù << glad it’s appreciated.
08:51:46 pm nancyrubin: @alc47 I still believe in search – has worked well for me to this point (and I still use my RSS reader, too!) along with Twitter. #lrnchat
08:51:50 pm StephenCHudson: “@ChristyATucker: Q1) I wonder if teaching people better search skills would help learning in the workflow. #lrnchat” > I often wonder that2
08:51:59 pm britz: Q1) Move from LMSs to Portals #lrnchat
08:52:03 pm meganbowe: @chambo_online damn straight #lrnchat
08:52:03 pm susannahrl: RT @urbie: #lrnchat Q1 integrate your courses with easy to use (and drop-dead simple to maintain) LMS; they can’t take it (course) if they can’t find.
08:52:04 pm audioswhite: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1. Listen. #lrnchat
08:52:04 pm LisaAGoldstein: If tweets are slower than normal it is because there is more talking than typing at #live #lrnchat at #devlearn http://t.co/vcZF2Ewr
08:52:24 pm alc47: @TriciaRansom Are courses part of helping people’s performance – not so sure! #Lrnchat
08:52:25 pm Musicmosaic1: First time @ #lrnchat … the all-in-one training unit here….learned how to program 360degree, 3D interactions this week. #lrnchat
08:52:40 pm criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat And (out of box thinking)- comb workflow for data to understand performance issues in workflow (analytics)
08:52:43 pm chet_stevenson: @LisaAGoldstein Trick is to get learners to actually use those tools. #lrnchat
08:52:43 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q1 use story (actual front-line stories are best) that learners can identify with and learn from. it’s the (learning) experience
08:52:48 pm ryantracey: Search + Twitter =
) #lrnchat
08:53:01 pm rdeis: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1 Watch for opps to solve problems, not “train” . #Lrnchat
08:53:08 pm denniscallahan: Q1) try to make the workflow as open & fluid as possible to allow for adjustments (learning) #lrnchat
08:53:08 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) stop designing courses. Teach ppl to solve problems. #lrnchat
08:53:10 pm LearnNuggets: RT @audioswhite: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1. Listen. < that also means to stop talking #Lrnchat
08:53:13 pm LnDDave: RT @britz: Q1) Move from LMSs to Portals #lrnchat
08:53:14 pm rosler: Hashtag much??? #lrnchat RT @KateHawk216: Honey badger invented elearning. @jaycross (@rosler told me to do it)
08:53:17 pm rjhogue: @alc47 if you have a dispersed work force, courses are often a chance for people to come together f2f and share ideas #lrnchat
08:53:19 pm sue_freeman1: ‚Äú@C4LPT: #lrnchat q1) liberate your courses from the LMS to be used as desired / required‚Äù AND re-use – let’s be efficient AND creative!
08:53:21 pm kelly_smith01: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) stop designing courses. Teach ppl to solve problems. #lrnchat
08:53:23 pm ilearnatwork: Q1) Let go of the need to ‘track’ and ‘report’ #lrnchat
08:53:25 pm innovativesarah: RT @LnDDave: Q1) realize that it’s not about you… #lrnchat
08:53:27 pm odguru: RT @britz: Q1) Move from LMSs to Portals #lrnchat
08:53:30 pm ChristyATucker: RT @rdeis: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1 Watch for opps to solve problems, not “train” . #lrnchat
08:53:36 pm NixTheNext: RT @Musicmosaic1: First time @ #lrnchat … the all-in-one training unit here….learned how to program 360degree, 3D interactions this week. #lrnchat
08:53:38 pm olliegardener: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) stop designing courses. Teach ppl to solve problems. #lrnchat
08:53:47 pm MMTingley: @Musicmosaic1 Yay! Hi Michael! #lrnchat
08:53:58 pm EternalLearner: I look forward to YouTube “honey badger” to learn more ‚Äú@chambo_online: Honey badger is the new Chuck Norris #Lrnchat‚Äù
08:54:06 pm denniscallahan: ‚Äú@rdeis: RT @JaneBozarth: Q1 Watch for opps to solve problems, not “train” . #Lrnchat‚Äù
08:54:08 pm alc47: RT @sue_freeman1: “@C4LPT: #lrnchat q1) liberate your courses from the LMS #Lrnchat
08:54:14 pm stickylearning: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) stop designing courses. Teach ppl to solve problems. #lrnchat
08:54:14 pm LnDDave: Q1) try to remove the word ‘course’ from vocabulary; doing so will help you remove it from your learning structure. #lrnchat
08:54:17 pm LearnNuggets: RT @LnDDave: RT @britz: Q1) Move from LMSs to Portals < Honey Badger don’t like no LMS #Lrnchat
08:54:19 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q1 develop instructions, standards and templates so motivated members of the population develop/design/train alongside you.
08:54:22 pm chambo_online: Addie Addie Addie Addie Addie. What honey badger does inVegas gets tweeted from vegas! #Lrnchat
08:54:30 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) ask ppl what they need, how they need it, and when they need it. Listen to their answers and then implement. #lrnchat
08:54:39 pm JaneBozarth: …and then Honey Badger showed up with a flask of rye…. #lrnchat
08:54:40 pm LearnNuggets: RT @LnDDave: Q1) try to remove the word course from vocabulary; doing so will help you remove it from your learning structure. #Lrnchat
08:54:53 pm criticallearner: RT @lnddave: Q1) try to remove the word ‘course’ from vocabulary; doing so will help you remove it from your learning structure. #lrnchat
08:55:05 pm JaneBozarth: Why are we talking about courses? #lrnchat
08:55:06 pm TriciaRansom: RT @LnDDave: Q1) try to remove the word ‘course’ from vocabulary; doing so will help you remove it from your learning structure. #lrnchat
08:55:08 pm ryantracey: Former for formal, latter for informal? RT @britz Q1) Move from LMSs to Portals #lrnchat
08:55:13 pm asbergman: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) ask ppl what they need, how they need it, and when they need it. Listen to their answers and then implement. #lrnchat
08:55:16 pm britz: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) Design courses tht teach ppl 2 solve common challenges. / Rather connect ppl 2 ppl who’ve overcome challenges #lrnchat
08:55:29 pm alc47: @LearnNuggets Stop talking about learning – talk performance support instead #Lrnchat
08:55:31 pm audioswhite: Q1) for many it requires some covert ninja type effort to move “corporate” culture to actual “work” culture #Lrnchat
08:55:34 pm lrnchat: Q2 How are you personally demonstrating your own learning in the flow of work? #lrnchat
08:55:36 pm marciamarcia: Sometimes you need to learn 4only long enough to do the work. Check if “how to” on @youtube, start doing fast. #lrnchat
08:55:38 pm rjhogue: Whats with the anti course focus tonight? Courses have their place … as does performance support …
#lrnchat
08:55:39 pm LnDDave: RT @JaneBozarth: Why are we talking about courses? #lrnchat
08:55:40 pm chris_saeger: @alc47 If tweets are slower than normal it is because there is more talking than typing <what can we learn from that?
#lrnchat
08:55:41 pm bkkevy: I can’t hear the #lrnchat from my demofest table. #devlearn
08:55:48 pm TriciaRansom: May I say it’s really hard to think/type/talk at the same time! #lrnchat
08:55:53 pm stickylearning: Q1 get rid of the training department #lrnchat
08:56:04 pm chambo_online: RT @lrnchat: Q2 How are you personally demonstrating your own learning in the flow of work? #Lrnchat
08:56:05 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q1 LMSs have a bad rep .. maybe it’s your particular LMS?
08:56:08 pm chet_stevenson: That’s gatta be some kinda party foul @chambo_online What honey badger does inVegas gets tweeted from vegas! #lrnchat
08:56:09 pm criticallearner: q1> #lrnchat be a business person first, L&D pro second.
08:56:13 pm JaneBozarth: Y’all stop with the courses talk or @alc47 will break. you. #lrnchat
08:56:18 pm susannahrl: RT @lrnchat: Q2 How are you personally demonstrating your own learning in the flow of work? #lrnchat
08:56:20 pm alc47: @bkkevy Hang on we’ll shout louder! #Lrnchat
08:56:29 pm TriciaRansom: I don’t understand? RT @lrnchat: Q2 How are you personally demonstrating your own learning in the flow of work? #lrnchat
08:56:30 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q2 How are you personally demonstrating your own learning in the flow of work? #lrnchat
08:56:35 pm StephenCHudson: ‚Äú@ilearnatwork: Q1) Let go of the need to ‘track’ and ‘report’ #lrnchat‚Äù > then how do you justify the training department? #buttsinseats
08:56:36 pm ryantracey: +1 RT @rjhogue: Whats with the anti course focus tonight? Courses have their place … as does performance support … #lrnchat
08:56:38 pm stickylearning: RT @lrnchat: Q2 How are you personally demonstrating your own learning in the flow of work? #lrnchat
08:56:40 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q2 How are you personally demonstrating your own learning in the flow of work? #lrnchat
08:56:42 pm ChristyATucker: RT @lrnchat: Q2 How are you personally demonstrating your own learning in the flow of work? #lrnchat
08:56:43 pm JaneBozarth: RT @bkkevy: I cant hear the #lrnchat from my demofest table. #devlearn #lrnchat
08:56:58 pm b5alive: Q2) Lots of Star Wars analogies. #lrnchat
08:56:59 pm marciamarcia: People are learning in the flow of work all the time. Question is how to support them learning more & sharing. #lrnchat
08:57:03 pm alc47: Yeah but only if you arevsmallerbthan me! RT @JaneBozarth: Yall stop with the courses talk or @alc47 will break. you. #Lrnchat
08:57:06 pm LisaAGoldstein: Often answering, “why” RT @susannahrl: RT @lrnchat: Q2 How are you personally demonstrating your own learning in the flow of work? #Lrnchat
08:57:06 pm Musicmosaic1: @TriciaRansom I agree…I’ve been trying to chat, talk on the phone, and follow the tweets simultaniously #lrnchat
08:57:10 pm rjhogue: RT @lrnchat: Q2 How are you personally demonstrating your own learning in the flow of work? #lrnchat
08:57:13 pm asbergman: +2 RT @rjhogue: Whats with the anti course focus tonight? Courses have their place … as does performance support … #lrnchat
08:57:15 pm britz: RT @TriciaRansom: May I say its really hard to think/type/talk at the same time! / Talk is cheap …cut that & focus on the other 2 #lrnchat
08:57:16 pm LearnNuggets: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) ask what they need, how they need it & when they need it. Listen for answers. < that word ‘listen’ again #Lrnchat
08:57:22 pm ilearnatwork: Q2) sharing and applying my ‘learnings’. by being innovative, not ‘the same as always’ #lrnchat
08:57:26 pm sue_freeman1: “@TriciaRansom: Q1) stop designing courses. Teach ppl to solve problems. #lrnchat” I think everyone enjoys problem-solving! Fun learning!
08:57:26 pm criticallearner: RT @urbie: #lrnchat Q1 LMSs have a bad rep .. maybe it’s your particular LMS? > More “how LMSs are used”, just like PPT.
08:57:29 pm LisaAGoldstein: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @bkkevy: I cant hear the #lrnchat from my demofest table. #devlearn #Lrnchat
08:57:34 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q1 understated at best, out-of-mind at worst: design accessible learning experiences that are useable by all.
08:57:45 pm olliegardener: q1) place indiv @ the center – start with supporting their work & lrng. KM, Curation, mutual support are offshoots that scale #lrnchat
08:57:48 pm chambo_online: Look, Honeybadger is actually tweeting from an iPad…I have stretched my skills…and now I am reaching for my glass. #Lrnchat
08:57:50 pm rosler: Honey Badger approves of #lrnchat shenanigans.
08:57:51 pm odguru: Q2) Try not to make the same mistake twice… #lrnchat.
08:57:55 pm HadiyaNuriddin: Q1) #lrnchat Designers need to know how the learner works, where they go, who do they talk to, when and why. Sometimes we assume to much.
08:58:07 pm Musicmosaic1: @MMTingley Hi Melissa! What did you learn today? #lrnchat
08:58:07 pm rjhogue: Q2) I blog … but my “flow of work” is academic and mostly online … so it is a great way to share my learning #lrnchat
08:58:13 pm audioswhite: RT @marciamarcia: People are learning in the flow of work all the time. Question is how to support them learning more & sharing. #lrnchat
08:58:13 pm JaneBozarth: I offer to lead book discussions. I use things I learn about (google docs, workd time buddy) in my workday #lrnchat
08:58:16 pm ryantracey: Q2) I populate wikis with content I know I will need again in future
P #lrnchat
08:58:21 pm susannahrl: ‚Äú@TriciaRansom: May I say it’s really hard to think/type/talk at the same time! #lrnchat‚Äù #newlifeskill
08:58:37 pm TriciaRansom: @britz Like the connecting ppl idea! #lrnchat
08:58:41 pm denniscallahan: Q1) sometimes the right support is no support #lrnchat
08:58:41 pm ChristyATucker: Q2) When I research tools or topics for work, I bookmark with @Diigo so I can find what I learned later #lrnchat
08:58:44 pm mojotillett: #lrnchat live from #devlearn http://t.co/B0TEZHxq
08:58:50 pm alc47: q2 By offering my own obsvations and insights for others to consider #Lrnchat
08:58:55 pm JaneBozarth: I apply new design skills. #lrnchat
08:58:55 pm MMTingley: Q2) Needs assessment is where I do most of my learning within my own workflow. #lrnchat
08:58:56 pm StephenCHudson: Q2) I have a personal blog (internal) where I discuss the things I learned in new projects. Maybe someday someone will read it #lrnchat
08:58:58 pm EternalLearner: Quickly solving challenges with the help of my global contacts! Q2 #lrnchat”
08:58:59 pm marciamarcia: I work, I learn, I share it with you, I learn more from you as a result, I can then do better work & learn more. #lrnchat
08:59:03 pm britz: Q2) I built great #PLN that I tap into on multiple devices throughout the day…inspiring, educating and (solution) generating! #lrnchat
08:59:03 pm TriciaRansom: Yikes! Just realized that we’re on a big screen! #lrnchat
08:59:11 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q2 I use story in all my courses; when I meet with customers in design meetings prime them on story: engaging experiences teach.
08:59:19 pm TriciaRansom: And sip wine RT @susannahrl: ‚Äú@TriciaRansom: May I say it’s really hard to think/type/talk at the same time! #lrnchat‚Äù #newlifeskill
08:59:24 pm asbergman: Q2 always trying to be a SME or resource for the learners #lrnchat
08:59:36 pm rjhogue: Q2) The other way is through conversations with colleagues … sharing experiences .. #lrnchat
08:59:39 pm kasey428: @marciamarcia, hello we miss you #lrnchat
08:59:40 pm alc47: @JaneBozarth please include the Q no. In your tweets!!!! #Lrnchat
08:59:57 pm Tracy_Parish: RT @britz: Q2) I built great #PLN that I tap into on multiple devices throughout the day…inspiring, educating and (solution) generating! #lrnchat
08:59:57 pm criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat Demo-ing my learning by applying more efficient methodologies with each progressive implementation (better code, deeper data)
09:00:00 pm MMTingley: Q2) Not only learning about the topic, but the audience, and the prob;em that requires solving
#lrnchat
09:00:06 pm dougdevitre: Q2) implementing then seeking immediate feedback on how to be better and not focus on what went wrong #lrnchat
09:00:18 pm LisaAGoldstein: DemoFest! #lrnchat #devlearn http://t.co/Gs9JapDG
09:00:18 pm LnDDave: “@kasey428: @marciamarcia, hello we miss you #lrnchat” << ditto
09:00:22 pm rjhogue: q2) I tweet my blog posts to hashtags that I think will be interested … increases readership
#lrnchat
09:00:22 pm olliegardener: How 2 enable & 2 scale RT @marciamarcia: Ppl r learning in the flow of work all the time. Q’s how 2 support them lrn more & sharing #lrnchat
09:00:23 pm chambo_online: Seriously q2) I connect with others who are smarter than me wherever I find them (hello PLN) and they stretch and challenge me #Lrnchat
09:00:23 pm kasey428: RT @JaneBozarth: I apply new design skills. #lrnchat
09:00:28 pm odguru: RT @nancyrubin: @alc47 I still believe in search – has worked well for me to this point (and I still use my RSS reader, too!) along with Twitter. #lrnchat
09:00:28 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q2 talk about mistakes, misses, take ownership of “oopsies” with customers and peers. do post-mortems as well as celebrations.
09:00:37 pm criticallearner: RT @asbergman: Q2 always trying to be a SME or resource for the learners #lrnchat
09:00:38 pm rosler: Q2) If my own flow of work involves educating an end user, I can share my mistakes while learning what it is I teach… #lrnchat
09:00:38 pm Musicmosaic1: @asbergman As the person who gets in the trenches, the designer always will be an SME. #lrnchat
09:00:39 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) Use PLN , search tools, #lrnchat contacts to identify new tools and practices. #lrnchat
09:00:45 pm stickylearning: Q2 every new design job means new ideas, skills, knowledge #lrnchat
09:00:45 pm MMTingley: Yes! RT @urbie: #lrnchat Q2 I use story in all my courses… engaging experiences teach. #lrnchat
09:00:45 pm chambo_online: RT @kasey428: @marciamarcia, hello we miss you #Lrnchat
09:00:46 pm odguru: RT @MariaOD: Q1) Make learning invisible. Like electricity. It’s everywhere but nowhere. #michiokaku #lrnchat
09:00:48 pm NixTheNext: Q2 Different cxn methods within team… I’ll make a podcast for my co-dev’ers and share just the link instead of emailing a tip #lrnchat
09:01:14 pm NixTheNext: RT @britz: Q2) I built great #PLN that I tap into on multiple devices throughout the day…inspiring, educating and (solution) generating! #lrnchat
09:01:18 pm LearnNuggets: RT @rosler: Q2) If my own flow of work involves educating an end user, I can share my mistakes while learning what it is I teach… #Lrnchat
09:01:18 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q2 I use my iPad in as many aspects of my instructional design work as possible, esp. when meeting with SMEs. Model tech practices.
09:01:18 pm JaneBozarth: RT @urbie talk about mistakes, misses, take ownership of “oopsies” with customers and peers.do post-mortems as well as celebrations #lrnchat
09:01:27 pm criticallearner: RT @chambo_online: Seriously q2) connect w/others smarter than me wherever I find them (hello PLN) and they stretch +challenge me #Lrnchat
09:01:32 pm Musicmosaic1: RT @odguru: RT @MariaOD: Q1) Make learning invisible. Like electricity. Its everywhere but nowhere. #michiokaku #lrnchat
09:01:33 pm JaneBozarth: RT @MariaOD: Q1) Make learning invisible. Like electricity. Its everywhere but nowhere. #michiokaku #lrnchat
09:01:36 pm georgekroner: @C4LPT or use LMS to share & reuse course packages that include content, forum topics, & tests/quizzes? #lrnchat http://t.co/vVMq2hYs
09:01:47 pm klowey22: q2) social project mgmt, emergent leadership, slowly move from email to social tools, many other informal learning methods… #lrnchat
09:01:50 pm marciamarcia: So what are *you* doing to share with people that *you’re* learning, not just talkin about orgs’s learning? #lrnchat
09:01:52 pm rdeis: Q2 I share what I learn and encourage others to do the same. #Lrnchat
09:01:59 pm sue_freeman1: ‚Äú@britz: Q2) … #PLN that I tap into on multiple devices throughout the day…inspiring…” #lrnchat‚Äù AMEN to that – & thank you, Jane! ![]()
09:02:13 pm cammybean: Q7b-part2) What design theory best represents your personality? #fakelrnchat #lrnchat HT to @bschlenker #devlearn
09:02:13 pm alc47: great simile RT @JaneBozarth: RT @MariaOD: Q1) Make learning invisible. Like electricity. Its everywhere but nowhere. #michiokaku #Lrnchat
09:02:14 pm StephenCHudson: Q2) I also make better products, applying the things I learn. Portfolio improvement is a great thing to see. #lrnchat
09:02:14 pm kasey428: RT @bkkevy: I cant hear the #lrnchat from my demofest table. #devlearn #lrnchat
09:02:14 pm kelly_smith01: Here we are at #FakeDevLearn participating in #lrnchat http://t.co/4QS6Oswv
09:02:16 pm JaneBozarth: RT @urbie useiPad in as many aspects of my instructional design work as possible, esp. when meeting with SMEs.Model tech practices. #lrnchat
09:02:18 pm NixTheNext: RT @marciamarcia: So what are *you* doing to share with people that *you’re* learning, not just talkin about orgs’s learning? #lrnchat
09:02:19 pm meganbowe: Q2) by finishing my work… Properly #DevLearn #lrnchat
09:02:22 pm s0ngb1rd: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @MariaOD: Q1) Make learning invisible. Like electricity. Its everywhere but nowhere. #michiokaku #lrnchat
09:02:23 pm MariaOD: Q2:I listen with genuine interest, meet them where they are, and give them tools to help solve problems. #lrnchat
09:02:46 pm LearnNuggets: Q2) we all have experiences and tell that story to friends & families. Tell stories in your learning design #Lrnchat
09:02:47 pm b5alive: RT @rdeis Q2 I share what I learn and encourage others to do the same. #Lrnchat
09:03:01 pm kelly_smith01: RT @LearnNuggets: Q2) we all have experiences and tell that story to friends & families. Tell stories in your learning design #Lrnchat
09:03:07 pm criticallearner: RT @stephenchudson: Q2) I also make better products, applying the things I learn. Portfolio improvement is a great thing to see. #lrnchat
09:03:12 pm asbergman: RT @MariaOD: Q1) Make learning invisible. Like electricity. Its everywhere but nowhere. #michiokaku #lrnchat
09:03:18 pm MMTingley: RT @MariaOD: Q2:I listen with genuine interest, meet them where they are, and give them tools to help solve problems. #lrnchat
09:03:20 pm LisaAGoldstein: Another view of live #lrnchat from #DevLearn http://t.co/H4U62u56
09:03:25 pm alc47: @MariaOD Q 2 Give or offer or suggest?
#Lrnchat
09:03:28 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q2 forget about “not designed here or by me”: ask for help; form communities of practice (in/out of org) read blogs n comment
09:03:34 pm britz: Q2) I proudly tell coworkers “I learned that through my Twitter network” early on I got blank stares …NOW they want in! #lrnchat
09:03:38 pm nancyrubin: Q2) Always learning myself – try to set a good example – share what I learn and what I know with whoever will listen
#lrnchat
09:04:00 pm olliegardener: q2) I connect with ppl that are on a similar path to myself, and actively search for opps 4 mutual support. #lrnchat
09:04:05 pm NixTheNext: q1 sample: I learned about agile dec at @dbolen session, gonna form a scrum when I get back to tackle old maintenance #devlearn #lrnchat
09:04:13 pm criticallearner: RT @MariaOD: Q1) Make learning invisible. Like electricity. Its everywhere but nowhere. #michiokaku #lrnchat <3
09:04:31 pm CynthiaMedinaM: RT @learning2011 A 4 Minute Welcome Video for MASIE Learning 2011 Participants http://t.co/tJgEK4qi Design
#elearning #L2011 #lrnchat
09:04:34 pm HadiyaNuriddin: Q2) #lrnchat Push the tools to the limits, it must be possible. If you hit a wall, fake it, but know when to cry uncle.
09:04:40 pm audioswhite: RT @britz: Q2) I built great #PLN that I tap into on multiple devices throughout the day…inspiring, educating and (solution) generating! #lrnchat
09:04:41 pm susannahrl: “@kelly_smith01: Q2) Use PLN , search tools, #lrnchat contacts to identify new tools and practices. #lrnchat” ditto
09:04:42 pm alc47: RT @olliegardener: q2) I connect with ppl that are on a similar path to myself, and actively search for opps 4 mutual support. #Lrnchat
09:04:52 pm LearnNuggets: RT @LisaAGoldstein: Another view of live #lrnchat from #DevLearn http://t.co/8DUV8wuS < and we’re LIVE! #Lrnchat
09:04:58 pm LnDDave: Q2) I ask questions, and share the answers. #lrnchat
09:05:11 pm criticallearner: q2> As a more experienced developer in the group I share my wisdom (aka prior screw ups) and stay with them as they experiment #lrnchat
09:05:21 pm asbergman: YES! RT @HadiyaNuriddin: Push the tools to the limits, it must be possible. If you hit a wall, fake it, but know when to cry uncle. #lrnchat
09:05:21 pm chambo_online: RT @LearnNuggets: Q2) we all have experiences and tell that story to friends & families. Tell stories in your learning design #Lrnchat
09:05:24 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q2 if possible locate yourself with the people you support.
09:05:25 pm rosler: #lrnchat Honey Badger won DemoFest. Yesterday.
09:05:26 pm TriciaRansom: What is q2? I’m all discombobulated! #lrnchat
09:05:32 pm chambo_online: RT @LnDDave: Q2) I ask questions, and share the answers. #Lrnchat
09:05:36 pm EternalLearner: RT @LearnNuggets: Q2) we all have experiences and tell that story to friends & families. Tell stories in your learning design #Lrnchat
09:05:41 pm marciamarcia: RT @nancyrubin: Q2 Always learning myself, try to set a good example, share what I learn & what I know with whoever will listen
#lrnchat
09:05:46 pm LisaAGoldstein: For the #fakedevlearn -ers #lrnchat #DevLearn http://t.co/Ou4GGYMw
09:05:49 pm rdeis: RT @britz: Q2) I proudly tell coworkers “I learned that through my Twitter network” early on I got blank stares…NOW they want in! #Lrnchat
09:06:07 pm dbolen: Off topic – the Aaron Silvers #lrnchat flash for serious drinking games http://t.co/9B6PPprf
09:06:07 pm mojotillett: RT @olliegardener: q2) I connect with ppl that are on a similar path to myself, and actively search for opps 4 mutual support. #lrnchat
09:06:11 pm LearnNuggets: RT @LnDDave: Q2) I ask questions, and share the answers. < Listening and sharing. I see a meme forming #Lrnchat
09:06:12 pm chambo_online: Honeybadger FTW! #Lrnchat
09:06:23 pm kasey428: Q2) my PLN is a go-to source and I try to play in kind #lrnchat
09:06:26 pm sue_freeman1: ‚Äú@britz: Q2) … “I learned that through my Twitter network” & got blank stares …NOW they want in! #lrnchat THAT’S where I wanna be!
09:06:28 pm marciamarcia: @TriciaRansom Q2 is on how do you personally share w/ others that you are learning as you work. #settingexample #lrnchat
09:06:43 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q2 get on a first name basis with the people you support. don’t think of ‘em as customers: reduce abstractions .. they’re people.
09:06:45 pm s0ngb1rd: #lrnchat must dash…its been brief but insightful…adieu ![]()
09:06:49 pm MMTingley: I don’t know why, but I am less jealous of the DevLearn group since they are not really in a bar like the last time…
#lrnchat
09:06:53 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) I talk with the ppl who take my courses, not their managers. #lrnchat
09:07:05 pm odguru: RT @dbolen: Off topic – the Aaron Silvers #lrnchat flash for serious drinking games http://t.co/9B6PPprf
09:07:07 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) Break the bounds of the three-ring binder and page-turning e-learning. #lrnchat
09:07:12 pm chrisstjohn: Listen and silent have the same letters #lrnchat
09:07:25 pm JaneBozarth: When twitter solves a problem, I take screenshot and send to boss #lrnchat
09:07:37 pm audioswhite: “@LnDDave: Q2) I ask questions, and share the answers. #lrnchat” < yes, start informally face2face and move to wirearchy
09:07:48 pm EternalLearner: “Use the force, Luke” haha ‚Äú@JaneBozarth: RT @MariaOD: Q1) Make learning invisible. Like electricity. Its everywhere but nowhere #lrnchat‚Äù
09:07:49 pm nancyrubin: Wishing I was at #devlearn and promising myself I will not miss it next year. While tweeting is fun – I wish I was there IRL. #lrnchat
09:07:52 pm marciamarcia: Ooh ahh! RT @chrisstjohn: Listen and silent have the same letters #lrnchat
09:07:59 pm LisaAGoldstein: The big picture of #DemoFest at #DevLearn for #LrnChat http://t.co/ySNsPFdx
09:08:02 pm larrystraining: RT @JaneBozarth: When twitter solves a problem, I take screenshot and send to boss #lrnchat <—love it!
09:08:03 pm rupalli_thacker: @marciamarcia I consider coaching and mentoring great tools to learn on the job..while in practice!#lrnchat
09:08:07 pm Tracy_Parish: I learned I should move beyond the seem and as the learners more today #Lrnchat @LearnNuggets
09:08:08 pm MMTingley: RT @JaneBozarth: When twitter solves a problem, I take screenshot and send to boss #lrnchat
09:08:16 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: When twitter solves a problem, I take screenshot and send to boss #lrnchat <—- Like here – say cheese
09:08:17 pm OpenSesameNow: RT @criticallearner: RT @urbie: #lrnchat Q1 LMSs have a bad rep .. maybe it’s your particular LMS? > More “how LMSs are used”, just like PPT.
09:08:19 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q2 big big big: don’t go off half-cocked. the goal is to make what you do repeatable, sustainable. document & share. peer-review 2
09:08:32 pm leonardocsouza: RT @marciamarcia: Ooh ahh! RT @chrisstjohn: Listen and silent have the same letters #lrnchat
09:08:37 pm NixTheNext: http://t.co/1q92tOAI Shirley Temple at #devlearn #lrnchat
09:08:55 pm criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat Show where broken: where you can get an answer from twitter or google on a phone quicker than co-supplied tools
09:08:59 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) When my PLN answers my question, I shout it from the rooftops and ask if they have a PLN too. #lrnchat
09:09:16 pm LearnNuggets: @Tracy_Parish Beyond the seem. I like that. #Lrnchat
09:09:27 pm hybridkris: Hey, you #lrnchat folks at #DevLearn know that you can actually, you know, talk to each other, right?
09:09:40 pm chrisstjohn: Use my iPad to access #lrnchat no matter where i am…
09:09:42 pm NixTheNext: .@criticallearner … Wisdom, aka prior screw ups… nice #lrnchat
09:09:44 pm rdeis: RT @chrisstjohn: Listen and silent have the same letters. #Lrnchat
09:09:48 pm olliegardener: as an entrepreneur I depend on collaboration beyond teamwork. Info w/out context’s worthless in this scenario. Choose tools wisely #lrnchat
09:09:50 pm marciamarcia: So often sharing what we’re learning means the specifics, not the theory, “I learned Y today.” #lrnchat
09:09:55 pm LisaAGoldstein: We need a live roll call at these two long tables… Who is at the other end of the table from me? #devlearn #Lrnchat
09:10:03 pm kasey428: RT @chrisstjohn: Use my iPad to access #lrnchat no matter where i am… #lrnchat
09:10:32 pm lrnchat: Q3 How can we find conversations about performance,requests for help, what workers are talking about, as it’s happening? #lrnchat
09:10:38 pm sue_freeman1: I’m infiltrating my presentation w/ Twitter learnings – what a great, diverse, fast resource!! #lrnchat
09:10:41 pm ryantracey: I still get incredulous stares – RT @britz Q2) “I learned that through my Twitter network” … early on I got blank stares #lrnchat
09:10:43 pm alc47: @LisaAGoldstein Which end are you? I’m at one end! #Lrnchat
09:10:46 pm criticallearner: @nixthenext Experience is the best teacher. She grades first, gives the lesson after #lrnchat
09:10:46 pm asbergman: RT @olliegardener: I depend on collab beyond teamwork. Info w/out contexts worthless in this scenario. Choose tools wisely #lrnchat
09:10:49 pm britz: Live! from #fakedevlearn http://t.co/w268wLsc ….yes, that is a sit-n-spin in background (they gave ‘em out on day 1) #devlearn #lrnchat
09:10:55 pm TriciaRansom: @LisaAGoldstein where are you? #lrnchat
09:10:56 pm susannahrl: “@hybridkris: Hey, you #lrnchat folks at #DevLearn know that you can actually, you know, talk to each other, right?” sounds unreasonable
09:10:59 pm LnDDave: Q2) I work on my search skills – Google, PLN, Social Networks – so that I can find Solutions to work issues quickly. #lrnchat
09:10:59 pm kelly_smith01: Q3 How can we find conversations about performance,requests for help, what workers are talking about, as it’s happening? #lrnchat
09:11:00 pm denniscallahan: Q2) I show or explain what I learned so others can see how it help them too. Then, they share and so on…#lrnchat
09:11:08 pm rjhogue: RT Q3 How can we find conversations about performance,requests for help, what workers are talking about, as its happening? #lrnchat
09:11:15 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q3 How can we find conversations re performance,requests for help, what workers are talking about, as it’s happening? #lrnchat
09:11:16 pm susannahrl: RT @lrnchat: Q3 How can we find conversations about performance,requests for help, what workers are talking about, as it’s happening? #lrnchat
09:11:22 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q3 How can we find conversations abt performance,requests for help, what workers are talking about, as it’s happening? #lrnchat
09:11:24 pm OpenSesameNow: Hi #DevLearn & #lrnchat! Joining you from the Las Vegas airport, on my way home. Sad to miss the live crew!
09:11:28 pm kasey428: Q3) Yammer is used in my company. Micro-blogging of any kind. #lrnchat
09:11:54 pm jmarrapodi: RT @britz: Live! from #fakedevlearn http://t.co/w268wLsc ….yes, that is a sit-n-spin in background (they gave ‘em out on day 1) #devlearn #lrnchat
09:12:01 pm britz: RT @lrnchat: Q3 How can we find conversations about performance,requests for help, what workers are talking abt, as its happening? #lrnchat
09:12:03 pm audioswhite: RT @britz: Live! from #fakedevlearn http://t.co/w268wLsc ….yes, that is a sit-n-spin in background (they gave ‘em out on day 1) #devlearn #lrnchat
09:12:06 pm MariaOD: RT @lrnchat: Q3 How can we find conversations abt performance,requests for help, what workers are talking about, as its happening? #lrnchat
09:12:15 pm ryantracey: Same goes – RT @kasey428: Q3) Yammer is used in my company. Micro-blogging of any kind. #lrnchat
09:12:15 pm Tracy_Parish: RT @kasey428: Q3) Yammer is used in my company. Micro-blogging of any kind. #lrnchat
09:12:16 pm stickylearning: @LisaAGoldstein The #lrnchat table goes all the way to me down in Australia
09:12:16 pm atsc: #lrnchat Q2) PLN like most people. Still twitter based. I email solutions internally. But LinkedIn can work too with private groups.
09:12:18 pm nancyrubin: q3) Provide way for learners to ask questions and share ideas – IDEA Exchanges, YouTube channels, guest blog posts on intranet… #lrnchat
09:12:18 pm JaneBozarth: Q3 How can we find conversations about performance,requests for help, what workers are talking about, as its happening? #lrnchat
09:12:19 pm asbergman: Q3) Ask the right questions, around the water cooler, twitter, informal hallway convos #lrnchat
09:12:22 pm NixTheNext: RT @criticallearner: @nixthenext Experience is the best teacher. She grades first, gives the lesson after #lrnchat
09:12:23 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q3 How can we find conversations about performance,requests for help, what workers are talking about, as it’s happening? #lrnchat
09:12:24 pm npmaven: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @MariaOD: Q1) Make learning invisible. Like electricity. Its everywhere but nowhere. #michiokaku #lrnchat
09:12:25 pm MariaOD: @OpenSesameNow good seeing you. Have a safe flight! #lrnchat
09:12:25 pm klowey22: RT @lrnchat: Q3 How can we find conversations abt performance,requests for help, what workers are talking about, as its happening? #lrnchat
09:12:30 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) If your enterprise has an internal social media platform – read internal blogs. #lrnchat
09:12:31 pm criticallearner: q3> #lrnchat Engage in the communities (they are your customers).
09:12:33 pm b5alive: Q3) Use the Google. Or the Twitters. #lrnchat
09:12:42 pm marciamarcia: For the record, I’m wildly impressed with the #devlearn participants chatting IRL & here simultaneously. #lrnchat
09:12:51 pm denniscallahan: Q3) you have to be where the work is happening, listen, watch, ask questions #lrnchat
09:12:54 pm rosler: Q3) By analyzing your audience and listening. #lrnchat
09:13:00 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q2 volunteer. work with people you don’t usually interact with. go outside your box. Like STEM: http://t.co/WQ0niq9i @ewrobelen
09:13:19 pm npmaven: RT @LnDDave: Q2) I work on my search skills – Google, PLN, Social Networks – so that I can find Solutions to work issues quickly. #lrnchat
09:13:22 pm asbergman: RT @denniscallahan: Q3) you have to be where the work is happening, listen, watch, ask questions #lrnchat
09:13:25 pm atsc: #lrnchat Q3) A private lInkedIn group. Just sent one up yesterday for our distance education developers.
09:13:39 pm MMTingley: Q3) Jive and IM #lrnchat
09:13:46 pm chambo_online: Q3 How can we find conversations about performance,requests for help, what workers are talking about, as its happening? #Lrnchat
09:13:46 pm EternalLearner: RT @marciamarcia: For the record, I’m wildly impressed with the #devlearn participants chatting IRL & here simultaneously. #lrnchat
09:13:47 pm agilistine: Q3) Diigo for information sharing, Basecamp for project mgmt collaboration #lrnchat
09:13:55 pm Tracy_Parish: Sit with coworkers at lunch. Listen to the frontline workers and what the are talking about. #lrnchat
09:13:57 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) Get invited to design meeting, marketing sessions, talk, take people to lunch or Starbucks, #Lrnchat
09:14:01 pm marciamarcia: RT @denniscallahan: Q3) you have to be where the work is happening, listen, watch, ask questions #lrnchat
09:14:02 pm alc47: Q3 Not sure I understand the Q but would talking to them anywhere, any time, any how get close? #Lrnchat
09:14:05 pm criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat Data data data. Not “person X put checkbox for completion in course Y” but analytics, trends, top searches, and biz results
09:14:08 pm rosler: Exactly –> RT @denniscallahan: Q3) you have to be where the work is happening, listen, watch, ask questions #lrnchat
09:14:12 pm StephenCHudson: Q3) we are lucky enough to have internal social media (socialcast) where people can share, ask, and learn. #lrnchat
09:14:20 pm HadiyaNuriddin: Q3) #lrnchat Listen, eavesdrop, spy, ask. But confirm with multiple sources. Hit the data from all sides. I’ve been led astray many times.
09:14:24 pm nancyrubin: q3) Break down silos! Create cross functional teams. Create social space where learners are comfortable sharing without fear. #lrnchat
09:14:27 pm urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q3 How can we find conversations about performance,requests for help, what workers are talking about, as it’s happening? #lrnchat
09:14:30 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) I squat in an empty cube in midst of my learners and put in headphones w/volume off. Then I LISTEN. #lrnchat
09:14:31 pm TriciaRansom: Uh-oh. I killed my twitter! #lrnchat
09:14:33 pm britz: Q3) I implemented Yammer in org. Incredible collaboration/sharing happening. I just sit back and watch the learning grow! #lrnchat
09:14:42 pm MMTingley: I didn’t know you could do that, thanks! RT @atsc: #lrnchat Q3) A private lInkedIn group. Just sent one up yesterday #lrnchat
09:14:47 pm MariaOD: Q3: Once we had a discussion in the bathroom stall. >>everywhere..ask..listen #lrnchat
09:15:01 pm klowey22: q3 – earning understanding that we ‘work out loud’ (share as much as possible/appropriate) #lrnchat
09:15:03 pm asbergman: RT @TriciaRansom: Q3) I squat in an empty cube in midst of my learners and put in headphones w/volume off. Then I LISTEN. #lrnchat
09:15:04 pm audioswhite: Q3) here is an old fashion approach I use, I walk around and talk to my production team at their desks, at least 2 times a day #Lrnchat
09:15:08 pm MMTingley: RT @TriciaRansom: Q3) I squat in an empty cube in midst of my learners and put in headphones w/volume off. Then I LISTEN. #lrnchat
09:15:08 pm rdeis: RT @denniscallahan: Q3) you have to be where the work is happening, listen, watch, ask questions >> Amen #Lrnchat
09:15:17 pm britz: @TriciaRansom that borders on creepy
#lrnchat
09:15:24 pm chambo_online: Q3)as in most things…observe and listen #Lrnchat
09:15:25 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q3 best way: talk (a lot) less and listen (a lot more). the people you support are experiencing pain, frustration.
09:15:29 pm olliegardener: q3) By providing a space (physical or virtual) where ppl feel comfortable, supported & valued for asking Qs. Connect & enable #lrnchat
09:15:33 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) Pose non-directed questions to co-workers to gauge their performance-related concerns. #Lrnchat
09:15:44 pm TriciaRansom: Mind out the gutter! RT @britz: @TriciaRansom that borders on creepy
#lrnchat
09:15:55 pm C4LPT: RT @britz: Q3) I implemented Yammer in org. Incredible collaboration/sharing happening. I just sit back and watch the learning grow! #lrnchat
09:15:59 pm criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat When folks say “listen” I get it, but there are great tools to really get fingers on the pulse of communities/trends/results
09:16:00 pm LisaAGoldstein: @mojotillett Making the rounds at #devlearn live #lrnchat http://t.co/4bMZkYNX
09:16:07 pm Tracy_Parish: RT @urbie: #lrnchat Q3 best way: talk (a lot) less and listen (a lot more). the people you support are experiencing pain, frustration.
09:16:12 pm atsc: @denniscallahan:Q3 you have to be where the work is happening, listen, watch, ask questions #lrnchat but work happens everywhere in big orgs
09:16:16 pm nancyrubin: Would love to have a #lrnchat on learning analytics – a new obsession of mine. What is worth tracking and what actions do we take? #lrnchat
09:16:23 pm EternalLearner: RT @LnDDave: Q2) I work on my search skills – Google, PLN, Social Networks – so that I can find Solutions to work issues quickly. #lrnchat
09:16:36 pm alc47: @olliegardener we’re you listening to my session #devlearn today – creepy! #Lrnchat
09:16:38 pm susannahrl: Abandoning #lrnchat in search of dinner with @StephenCHudson and @marykayd farewell!
09:16:41 pm chambo_online: RT @urbie: #lrnchat Q3 best way: talk (a lot) less and listen (a lot more). —>2 ears 1 mouth theory…listen 2x as much as talk #Lrnchat
09:16:54 pm olliegardener: q3) Our job’s not 2 “catch” Qs & deliver As, but 2 enable ppl 2 connect around issues, provide mutual support & 2 collaborate #lrnchat
09:17:23 pm criticallearner: @nancyrubin #lrnchat check out work of SOLAR, http://t.co/yER8cfVs, and George Siemens.
09:17:24 pm denniscallahan: Q3) live a day in the life of your customer, what does it really feel like #lrnchat
09:17:25 pm stickylearning: Q3 easy-ish in small workspaces, very very hard in national businesses with 1000s of sites & no internal social places #lrnchat
09:17:26 pm t2009daniels: RT @JaneBozarth: When twitter solves a problem, I take screenshot and send to boss #lrnchat
09:17:28 pm agilistine: @nancyrubin agreed. that would be a great topic #lrnchat
09:17:39 pm olliegardener: @alc47 not sure I picked up on the creepy bit!! ??
#lrnchat
09:17:45 pm chambo_online: Listen to @aaronsilvers and track the metrics of the activity stream #Lrnchat
09:17:54 pm kelly_smith01: RT @chambo_online: Listen to @aaronsilvers and track the metrics of the activity stream #Lrnchat
09:17:54 pm IdeaLearning: RT @EternalLearner: “Use the force, Luke” haha ‚Äú@JaneBozarth: RT @MariaOD: Q1) Make learning invisible. Like electricity. Its everywhere but nowhere #lrnchat‚Äù
09:18:03 pm MariaOD: Q3. Listening online doesn’t mean lurking. Listening means filtering, curating, and sharing #lrnchat
09:18:08 pm OpenSesameNow: @lrnchat Lurk near water coolers, conference rooms and the vending machines to overhear juicy conversations! #lrnchat
09:18:11 pm Tracy_Parish: @olliegardener great point on connecting ppl. #lrnchat
09:18:17 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) I ask the help desk to share with me their most commonly asked questions. #lrnchat
09:18:28 pm kelly_smith01: RT @TriciaRansom: Q3) I ask the help desk to share with me their most commonly asked questions. #lrnchat
09:18:28 pm nancyrubin: @criticallearner I am a big fan of George’s. Just saw him at Educause and loved his preso. Hoping to attend his conference, too. #lrnchat
09:18:29 pm criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat I think the shift of analytics for learning is moving from “CYA/accountability” to “real understanding for supporting ppl”
09:18:30 pm alc47: @olliegardener would psychic female intuition fit better? This is hilarious #Lrnchat
09:18:54 pm asbergman: Spot on! RT @olliegardener: Our jobs not 2 “catch” Qs & deliver As, but 2 enable ppl 2 connect around issuses, provide support #lrnchat
09:19:00 pm jmarrapodi: Goodness! Would someone from #devlearn go help out? RT @MoxziDotCom guess who still isn’t coming up on #lrnchat? http://t.co/d5wvCgst
09:19:11 pm criticallearner: RT @chambo_online: Listen to @aaronsilvers and track the metrics of the activity stream #Lrnchat > BINGO George Siemens too.
09:19:13 pm LearnNuggets: RT @OpenSesameNow: @lrnchat Lurk near water coolers, conference rooms and the vending machines to overhear juicy conversations! #Lrnchat
09:19:16 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) Some companies track “red flag” incidents – incidents that slow or stop a process – review these. #Lrnchat
09:19:20 pm olliegardener: For the record – twitter is now solving the problem. People you connect with THROUGH twitter are! #lrnchat
09:19:31 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) I love SoMe tools so I can “hear” watercooler convos in cyberspace. #lrnchat
09:19:35 pm MariaOD: @triciaransom, yes! Build partnership with IT esp. helpdesk. they have data you can use.. #lrnchat
09:19:36 pm stickylearning: RT @olliegardener: q3) Our job’s not 2 “catch” Qs & deliver As, but 2 enable ppl 2 connect around issues, provide mutual support & 2 collaborate #lrnchat
09:19:53 pm criticallearner: RT @olliegardener: Our jobs not 2 “catch” Qs & deliver As, but 2 enable ppl 2 connect around issuses, provide support #lrnchat
09:19:55 pm JD_Dillon: RT @criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat I think the shift of analytics for learning is moving from “CYA/accountability” to “real understanding for supporting ppl”
09:19:58 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q3 I’m 1500 miles n 2 time zones away from my nearest peer. so i team with the agents i support. they know more that we let on.
09:20:13 pm criticallearner: RT @kelly_smith01: Q3) Some companies track “red flag” incidents – incidents that slow or stop a process – review these. #Lrnchat >Pareto!
09:20:14 pm rdeis: RT @TriciaRansom: Q3) I ask the help desk to share with me their most commonly asked questions.>> Me too. Good for the big orgs. #Lrnchat
09:20:30 pm HadiyaNuriddin: Q3) #lrnchat Learn about what similar companies are doing and their challenges. Your learners are precious, but not unique.
09:20:34 pm criticallearner: RT @triciaransom: Q3) I love SoMe tools so I can “hear” watercooler convos in cyberspace. #lrnchat > YES, analytics/trends
09:20:36 pm chrisstjohn: Encourage and enable. Not command and control. #lrnchat
09:20:37 pm denniscallahan: RT @atsc #lrnchat but work happens everywhere in big orgs <yes, but u have to start somewhere. Being big gives u more opportunities ![]()
09:20:39 pm ryantracey: Q3) It’s amazing what you can learn via a good ol’ conversation. #lrnchat
09:20:41 pm lrnchat: Q4 How can we help talent pools/expertise find and connect with one another? #lrnchat
09:20:58 pm britz: Give me a pic for office wall. Someone snap a pic of #devlearn lrnchatters waving to us here at #fakedevlearn (yeah, rub it in) #lrnchat
09:21:10 pm C4LPT: RT @ryantracey: Q3) It’s amazing what you can learn via a good ol’ conversation. #lrnchat
09:21:11 pm stickylearning: RT @ryantracey: Q3) It’s amazing what you can learn via a good ol’ conversation. #lrnchat
09:21:14 pm LearnNuggets: RT @lrnchat: Q4 How can we help talent pools/expertise find and connect with one another? #Lrnchat
09:21:17 pm MariaOD: RT @lrnchat: Q4 How can we help talent pools/expertise find and connect with one another? #lrnchat
09:21:20 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q4 How can we help talent pools/expertise find and connect with one another? #lrnchat
09:21:24 pm olliegardener:
RT @ryantracey: Q3) Its amazing what you can learn via a good ol conversation. #lrnchat
09:21:25 pm urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q4 How can we help talent pools/expertise find and connect with one another? #lrnchat
09:21:44 pm marciamarcia: RT @lrnchat: Q4 How can we help talent pools/expertise find and connect with one another? #lrnchat
09:21:54 pm asbergman: Q4 I think its moving past expertise and finding a way to just connect people via intros, employee spot lights etc. #lrnchat
09:22:06 pm criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat I think analytics illustrates where to dig for deeper understanding, the understanding comes from conversations with those ppl
09:22:14 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q4 How can we help talent pools/expertise find and connect with one another? #lrnchat
09:22:20 pm LearnNuggets: Q4) connect talent pools by giving away knowledge. #Lrnchat
09:22:35 pm atsc: RT @lrnchat: Q4 How can we help talent pools/expertise find and connect with one another? #lrnchat
09:22:35 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q4 if you don’t know (i don’t) what talent pool/expertise is, ask. Is it like a community of practice/learning?
09:22:38 pm rdeis: RT @ryantracey: Q3) Its amazing what you can learn via a good ol conversation. >> That can’t be replaced with a computer. #Lrnchat
09:22:43 pm criticallearner: RT @learnnuggets: Q4) connect talent pools by giving away knowledge. #Lrnchat
09:22:48 pm kelly_smith01: RT @cnagel: RT @lrnchat: Q4 How can we help talent pools/expertise find and connect with one another? #lrnchat
09:22:50 pm chris_saeger: Q4) ppl aready know at a personal level, the trick is to make the talent pools visible to larger groups
#lrnchat
09:22:53 pm Pam_Boiros: RT @marciamarcia: I work, I learn, I share it with you, I learn more from you as a result, I can then do better work & learn more. #lrnchat
09:23:06 pm LearnNuggets: @urbie Yes #Lrnchat
09:23:08 pm ChristyATucker: RT @lrnchat: Q4 How can we help talent pools/expertise find and connect with one another? #lrnchat
09:23:13 pm asbergman: RT @criticallearner: Q3> Analytics shows where to dig for deeper understanding, the understanding comes from convos with those ppl #lrnchat
09:23:18 pm klowey22: q4 – each environment/culture/situation probably has slightly diff approaches to expertise location (profiles, search, tags, etc.) #lrnchat
09:23:25 pm britz: Q4) It can be as simple as creating the channels …motivated ppl will find a way thru the noise #lrnchat
09:23:25 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q4 the hard part is working within the constraints of your particular organization. it can be hurt if org doesn’t support it.
09:23:33 pm rosler: Q4) By facilitating a connection, then backing the hell up to let the ‘social’ happen… #lrnchat @JaneBozarth
09:23:44 pm chris_saeger: Q4) find ways to publicly recognize the “talent” pool, and reward sharing #lrnchat
09:23:50 pm audioswhite: RT @britz: Q4) It can be as simple as creating the channels …motivated ppl will find a way thru the noise #lrnchat
09:23:54 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) Would love for orgs to make it easy for ppl to find each other. When I worked at IBM we had Blue Pages (virtual phone book). #lrnchat
09:23:55 pm NixTheNext: @jmarrapodi @moxzidotcom is heyah! Working it now… #lrnchat http://t.co/EB9rMf1s
09:23:57 pm asbergman: RT @rosler: Q4) By facilitating a connection, then backing the hell up to let the social happen… #lrnchat @JaneBozarth #lrnchat
09:24:00 pm ChristyATucker: Q4) Provide social media tools like wikis & microblogging, and train people to use them #lrnchat
09:24:02 pm criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat more conversations/connections, the more folks understand the ppl and power of their network. Facilitate the connections.
09:24:03 pm MariaOD: Q4:Foster development/coaching/stretch opportunities. #lrnchat
09:24:04 pm klowey22: q4 – knowledge markets and talent markets? #lrnchat
09:24:04 pm nancyrubin: q4) Lunch and Learn, Virtual Events, Internal and External Communities of Practice, Social Spaces, Create Culture of Sharing #lrnchat
09:24:07 pm Tracy_Parish: Q4) we have to remember not to always go right to the tech solution. Offering food on a room is a great wake to get people together #lrnchat
09:24:08 pm C4LPT: RT @rosler: Q4) By facilitating a connection, then backing the hell up to let the ‘social’ happen… #lrnchat @JaneBozarth
09:24:10 pm chambo_online: RT @rosler: Q4) By facilitating a connection, then backing the hell up to let the social happen… #lrnchat @JaneBozarth #Lrnchat
09:24:20 pm denniscallahan: Need to leave early…have a good night all #lrnchat
09:24:33 pm marciamarcia: How can we connect people who have expertise w those who seek it or need it? #lrnchat
09:24:38 pm kelly_smith01: Q4) Find “champions” or leaders to “publicly” share and encourage others to share/collaborate. #Lrnchat
09:24:38 pm britz: RT @C4LPT: RT @rosler: Q4) By facilitating a connection, then backing the hell up to let the social happen… #lrnchat @JaneBozarth #lrnchat
09:24:43 pm LearnNuggets: RT @MariaOD: Q4:Foster development/coaching/stretch opportunities. #Lrnchat
09:24:45 pm criticallearner: RT @chris_saeger: Q4) ppl aready know at a pers level, the trick is to make the talent pools visible to larger groups
#lrnchat > Profiles
09:24:48 pm ChristyATucker: Q4) Employee directories where people can tag themselves with their expertise (a la Cisco) #lrnchat
09:24:52 pm JD_Dillon: RT @rosler: Q4) By facilitating a connection, then backing the hell up to let the ‘social’ happen… #lrnchat @JaneBozarth
09:24:59 pm ryantracey: Q4) Create open groups on your SoMe #lrnchat
09:25:10 pm criticallearner: RT @chris_saeger: Q4) find ways to publicly recognize the “talent” pool, and reward sharing #lrnchat
09:25:11 pm atsc: #lrnchat Q4) encouraging networking outside the pool then meetings, online forums – so talking more. But it starts in networking w/ the pool
09:25:26 pm MariaOD: Q4:Increase the training er…tuition assistance budget..lol #lrnchat
09:25:31 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q4 i have to go extra-curricular to find/share with communities of practice/learning. lots of #’s in the twitter-verse.
09:25:43 pm chambo_online: Well live chats with willing mentors aren’t a bad idea…#hinthint #Lrnchat
09:25:44 pm agilistine: Q4) Organize a brown bag lunch and invite lots of coworkers. #lrnchat
09:25:48 pm britz: RT @marciamarcia: How can we connect people who have expertise w those who seek it or need it? / incentives help #lrnchat
09:25:50 pm olliegardener: q4) Get beyond “shared interests”. how does our day2day work overlap -> find shared contexts, needs & opps for collaboration #lrnchat
09:25:52 pm MMTingley: Q4) Our org has several mini conferences so ppl from different business units can connect
#lrnchat
09:26:01 pm criticallearner: RT @kelly_smith01: Q4) Find “champions” or leaders to “publicly” share and encourage others to share/collaborate. #Lrnchat
09:26:03 pm Musicmosaic1: Q4) Start by creating a fundamentally communicative culture from top down.Flattening the org. leads to initial cross-communication. #lrnchat
09:26:03 pm kelly_smith01: Q4) Build a friendly Knowledge Management system that accommodates sharing/collaboration between internal entities. #Lrnchat
09:26:17 pm MariaOD: @agilistine how’s the brown bag working for your org? #lrnchat
09:26:18 pm kasey428: RT @rosler: Q3) By analyzing your audience and listening. #lrnchat
09:26:19 pm NixTheNext: @britz but is that relying on, ‘if you build it they will blog’? #devlearn #lrnchat
09:26:27 pm b5alive: Q4) If you have value & knowledge to offer, people will return the favor. #lrnchat
09:26:35 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q4 if $’s weren’t so tight i’d be at #DevLearn big-time. which reminds me: how does their small population share back home?
09:26:41 pm olliegardener: RT @nancyrubin: q4) Lunch & Learn, Virtual Events, Internal & External CoPractice, Social Spaces, Create Culture of Sharing #lrnchat
09:26:49 pm stickylearning: Q4 I like the idea of knowledge cafes that @DavidGurteen uses = knowledge sharing & networking combined #lrnchat
09:26:53 pm HadiyaNuriddin: Q4) #lrnchat I can show them the value of the connection, but I can’t make them value it. Unless there’s pizza.
09:27:02 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat ADDIE (or was it just me who needed a drink?)
09:27:03 pm Tracy_Parish: Use a tool that allows users to put in there list of talents and let others search for those that can help them #lrnchat
09:27:09 pm kelly_smith01: Q4) Internal blogging & micro-blogging – acknowledge and reward these activities.#Lrnchat
09:27:20 pm chrisstjohn: RT @ChristyATucker: Q4) Provide social media tools like wikis & microblogging, and train people to use them #lrnchat
09:27:22 pm marciamarcia: RT @b5alive: Q4) If you have value & knowledge to offer, people will return the favor. #lrnchat
09:27:25 pm ryantracey: Cool! RT @MMTingley: Q4) Our org has several mini conferences so ppl from different business units can connect #lrnchat
09:27:56 pm NixTheNext: Q4 we have a ‘guru’ wiki in our CoP. Self reporting, update when you learn new pieces. #devlearn #lrnchat
09:28:04 pm asbergman: Q4) Is anyone doing tweetchats for employees? Response? #lrnchat
09:28:04 pm chambo_online: Q4) Allow the space to communicate and don’t try to control, train, or compliance it #Lrnchat
09:28:07 pm marciamarcia: RT @Tracy_Parish: Use a tool that allows ppl to list talents and let others search for those that can help them #lrnchat
09:28:10 pm criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Short version: Get people together. Talking/sharing. Whatever helps that. Use tools to scale where needed.
09:28:14 pm stickylearning: Q4 merge the ideas of Knowledge Management with L&D #lrnchat
09:28:20 pm rdeis: RT @Tracy_Parish: Use a tool that allows users to put in there list of talents and let others search for those that can help them #Lrnchat
09:28:22 pm MMTingley: RT @Musicmosaic1: Q4) Flattening the org. leads to initial cross-communication. #lrnchat
09:28:26 pm britz: @NixTheNext Not necessarily. For me I worked to: know thy audience, select carefully, build ambassadors #lrnchat
09:28:33 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q4 when i’m back home in Phoenix, AZ i go to the monthly ASTD-VOS and ISTE meetings. network. seeing things differently. lunch cool
09:28:35 pm rosler: Cracked 1,000 tweets tonight thanks to #lrnchat, #devlearn, and Honey Badger
09:28:38 pm HadiyaNuriddin: Q4) #lrnchat Make them think it was their idea. You tell me how the connection will help. I can’t tell you, only kindly suggest.
09:28:40 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) recognize the “connectors” in an org w/out making it an additional work responsibility. #lrnchat
09:28:45 pm JaneBozarth: Jane’s extra Q: What % of people who say org doesn’t “allow’ social media actually tried to change that? #lrnchat
09:29:06 pm LearnNuggets: RT @marciamarcia: RT @Tracy_Parish: tool that allows ppl to list talents and let others search for those that can help them < Yes! #Lrnchat
09:29:15 pm TriciaRansom: RT @JaneBozarth: Jane’s extra Q: What % of people who say org doesn’t “allow’ social media actually tried to change that? #lrnchat
09:29:15 pm nancyrubin: q4) What about badges or some kind of internal reward system – klout perks (I know #klout is a sore subject this week ‚ò∫) #lrnchat
09:29:16 pm MariaOD: q4: Find what motivates them and exceed their expectation.
>>the return will amaze you #lrnchat
09:29:17 pm marciamarcia: RT @britz: For me I worked to: know thy audience, select carefully, build ambassadors #lrnchat
09:29:22 pm agilistine: @MariaOD last one we did was organized by our sustainability committee. went pretty good #lrnchat
09:29:24 pm b5alive: Q4) Is there a category on match.com for this? #lrnchat
09:29:29 pm C4LPT: RT @JaneBozarth: Jane’s extra Q: What % of people who say org doesn’t “allow’ social media actually tried to change that? #lrnchat
09:29:38 pm olliegardener: @marciamarcia @b5alive It doesnt have to be a favor. If ppl organise or do their work in a coworking tool, sharing is a biproduct #lrnchat
09:29:39 pm LearnNuggets: RT @JaneBozarth: Janes extra Q: What % of people who say org doesnt “allow social media actually tried to change that? < tried? 20% #Lrnchat
09:30:00 pm ryantracey: Nicely put – RT RT @stickylearning: Q4 merge the ideas of Knowledge Management with L&D #lrnchat
09:30:03 pm JaneBozarth: Jane’s extra answer: 5? #lrnchat
09:30:08 pm Musicmosaic1: RT @C4LPT: RT @JaneBozarth: Janes extra Q: What % of people who say org doesnt “allow social media actually tried to change that? #lrnchat
09:30:43 pm MariaOD: @agilistine we stopped ours..low attendance.. good luck to you #brownbag #lrnchat
09:30:45 pm NixTheNext: @britz so build it, plant it, cultivate it, and they will blog
#devlearn #lrnchat
09:30:46 pm TriciaRansom: QJane) my org said they were blocked. 10 months later I’m still on them. Sometimes you’ve just gotta say “hooey” to official line. #lrnchat
09:30:56 pm criticallearner: Jane’s extra Q: I did! The phrase that opened minds: “Mr. Exec, when I have a sticking point, you always say ‘go talk to..’” #lrnchat
09:30:58 pm urbie: @JaneBozarth @C4LPT how much of a % is me #lrnchat
09:31:05 pm Tracy_Parish: We just have to get a thesaurus and all will be fixed. Social to collaborate. Game to engagement. #lrnchat
09:31:07 pm rosler: @MoxziDotCom Borrow away!!! #lrnchat
09:31:09 pm chrisstjohn: Q4) every one of our 6 campuses has “eChampions” who live the dream. #lrnchat
09:31:18 pm marciamarcia: 2of3 go around bad systems. RT @JaneBozarth: What % of ppl who org doesnt allow social media try to change that? #lrnchat
09:31:27 pm chambo_online: RT @NixTheNext: @britz so build it, plant it, cultivate it, and they will blog
#devlearn—>yep #Lrnchat
09:31:38 pm chambo_online: and don’t make it mandatory #Lrnchat
09:32:13 pm kelly_smith01: RT @chambo_online: RT @NixTheNext: @britz so build it, plant it, cultivate it, and they will blog
#devlearn—>yep #Lrnchat
09:32:18 pm lrnchat: Q5 What are some ways we can nurture and participate, rather than control, workflow learning? New ideas for L&D? #lrnchat
09:32:19 pm britz: @NixTheNext yes… flicking the switch will fail ..every org culture different – gotta have your pulse on that for sure #lrnchat
09:32:21 pm marciamarcia: RT @criticallearner: Phrase that opened minds “Mr. Exec, when I have a sticking point, you always say go talk to..” #lrnchat
09:32:28 pm ryantracey: @chambo_online Just make performance mandatory. #lrnchat
09:32:29 pm MMTingley: Q4) Webex topics of interest bring ppl from X-company together virtually.
#lrnchat
09:32:33 pm MariaOD: Hey #lrnchat, it’s been fun. Starving yet again. Wonder if Watson ever gets hungry! Good nite! #lrnchat
09:32:50 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat email and phone were social media at one time… they aren’t blocking those. Folk will SoMe, with any luck, they include the co.
09:32:58 pm urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q5 What are some ways we can nurture and participate, rather than control, workflow learning? New ideas for L&D? #lrnchat
09:33:14 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q5 What are some ways we can nurture and participate, rather than control, workflow learning? New ideas for L&D? #lrnchat
09:33:22 pm britz: Q5) Think like a Community Member not a Community Manager #lrnchat
09:33:25 pm chrisstjohn: You can herd cats. Just move their food! #lrnchat
09:33:27 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q5 What are some ways we can nurture and participate, rather than control, workflow learning? New ideas for L&D? #lrnchat
09:33:36 pm JaneBozarth: RT @marciamarcia: 2of3 go around bad systems. RT @JaneBozarth: What % of ppl who org doesnt allow social media try to change that? #lrnchat
09:33:59 pm marciamarcia: Just for data. Yumm. RT @MariaOD: Starving yet again. Wonder if #Watson ever gets hungry! #lrnchat
09:34:07 pm kasey428: RT @chrisstjohn: You can herd cats. Just move their food! #lrnchat
09:34:08 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q5 go off your beaten path, listen to a different drummer. Some of my recent instructional strategies were inspired by cosmo.
09:34:14 pm Musicmosaic1: RT @chrisstjohn: You can herd cats. Just move their food! #lrnchat
09:34:25 pm alc47: Enable leadership to move through the communityRT @britz: Q5) Think like a Community Member not a Community Manager #Lrnchat
09:34:40 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat Interesting fact: I consult with a hi-tech security company. #1 risk for malware? You guessed right- folks getting around dumb blox
09:34:41 pm stickylearning: RT @ryantracey: @chambo_online Just make performance mandatory #lrnchat
09:35:13 pm olliegardener: @LearnNuggets @marciamarcia @Tracy_Parish why limit 2 “talents”. Creates bottlenecks & hiearchy. Connect ppl lrning in parallel #lrnchat
09:35:25 pm kelly_smith01: Nice article on sharing/collaboration no solution but good argument. http://t.co/zE6aLGMD #lrnchat
09:35:30 pm TriciaRansom: Q5) Nurturing and participation, by their very nature, infer listening, empowerment, caring, and options. #lrnchat
09:35:37 pm marciamarcia: RT @lrnchat: Q5 What are some ways we can nurture and participate, rather than control, workflow learning? #lrnchat
09:35:43 pm stickylearning: Q5 design to encourage collaboration and exploration #lrnchat
09:35:48 pm asbergman: RT @TriciaRansom: Q5) Nurturing and participation, by their very nature, infer listening, empowerment, caring, and options. #lrnchat
09:35:57 pm kelly_smith01: Q5 What are some ways we can nurture and participate, rather than control, workflow learning? New ideas for L&D? #lrnchat
09:36:12 pm nancyrubin: Encourage leadership to become part of the community. Bottom up adoption is good and so is top down! #lrnchat
09:36:21 pm kelly_smith01: RT @kasey428: RT @chrisstjohn: You can herd cats. Just move their food! #lrnchat
09:36:25 pm chrisstjohn: Q5) No Powerpoint! Be cunning and full of tricks. #lrnchat
09:36:29 pm ryantracey: Q5) Get your hands dirty. #lrnchat
09:36:32 pm kasey428: free from fear, freedom to disagree #lrnchat
09:36:33 pm rdeis: RT @stickylearning: Q5 design to encourage collaboration and exploration #Lrnchat
09:36:36 pm C4LPT: RT @chrisstjohn: You can herd cats. Just move their food! #lrnchat
09:36:36 pm olliegardener: RT @lrnchat: Q5 What are some ways we can nurture and participate, rather than control, workflow learning? New ideas for L&D? #lrnchat
09:36:42 pm alc47: RT @olliegardener:@Tracy_Parish why limit 2 “talents”. Connect ppl lrning in parallel . Give them frameworks To channel learning #Lrnchat
09:36:51 pm chambo_online: Offer Ideas of how the learning is relevant…answer “what’s in it for me?” and take it beyond just the same old same old #Lrnchat
09:36:58 pm LearnNuggets: Q5) don’t condem or criticize failure and mistakes. Encourage growth #Lrnchat
09:36:58 pm britz: @marciamarcia speaking of #Watson http://t.co/ACaumeUR #lrnchat
09:37:01 pm olliegardener: Now – that is a new idea
RT @ryantracey: Q5) Get your hands dirty. #lrnchat
09:37:06 pm NixTheNext: RT @chrisstjohn: You can herd cats. Just move their food! #lrnchat
09:37:11 pm LearnNuggets: RT @C4LPT: RT @chrisstjohn: You can herd cats. Just move their food! #Lrnchat
09:37:22 pm kasey428: RT @olliegardener:@Tracy_Parish why limit 2 “talents”. Connect ppl lrning in parallel . Give them frameworks To channel learning #lrnchat
09:37:23 pm marciamarcia: @criticallearner The best intentions for blocking malware can also block brainware learning, sharing, sparking #lrnchat
09:37:24 pm Musicmosaic1: Q5) Bring back apprenticeships #lrnchat
09:37:32 pm TriciaRansom: Q0) Just learned that twitterese for management is mgmt. thanks @NixTheNext! #lrnchat
09:37:32 pm kasey428: RT @LearnNuggets: Q5) dont condem or criticize failure and mistakes. Encourage growth #lrnchat
09:37:36 pm criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Workflow learning happens. Learn from it vs try to control it, and try to enhance support in key challenge areas.
09:37:36 pm chrisstjohn: Alan Kay said, “Once you put something into powerpoint, it ceases to be knowledge. #lrnchat
09:37:38 pm LearningLava: RT @chrisstjohn: You can herd cats. Just move their food! #lrnchat
09:37:45 pm chambo_online: RT @LearnNuggets: RT @C4LPT: RT @chrisstjohn: You can herd cats. Just move their food! #Lrnchat
09:38:03 pm criticallearner: RT @marciamarcia: The best intentions for blocking malware can also block brainware learning, sharing, sparking #lrnchat >True dat.
09:38:10 pm MMTingley: RT @chrisstjohn: Alan Kay said, “Once you put something into powerpoint, it ceases to be knowledge. #lrnchat
09:38:19 pm ryantracey: @olliegardener :0) #lrnchat
09:38:22 pm rosler: Q5) Stop trying to control the process so damn much…people are smart on their own. #lrnchat
09:38:24 pm kelly_smith01: Q5) Reward and acknowledge and demonstrate or point-out good internal practice of improving performance. #lrnchat
09:38:33 pm JaneBozarth: RT @C4LPT: RT @chrisstjohn: You can herd cats. Just move their food! #lrnchat
09:38:37 pm chambo_online: RT @chrisstjohn: Alan Kay said, “Once you put something into powerpoint, it ceases to be knowledge. #Lrnchat
09:38:48 pm alc47: RT @Musicmosaic1: Q5) Bring back apprenticeships We’ve been stuck with text based learning for too long #Lrnchat
09:38:49 pm Musicmosaic1: @chrisstjohn Don’t tell Articulate that.
#lrnchat
09:38:56 pm JaneBozarth: RT @marciamarcia: The best intentions for blocking malware can also block brainware learning, sharing, sparking #lrnchat
09:39:04 pm marciamarcia: @Musicmosaic1 rather than look to others to bring back apprenticeships, just bring them back. Jobswaps too. #lrnchat
09:39:10 pm LnDDave: Q5) check your ego at the door and realize that some of your skills may not be as valuable in the future; we need some new skills #lrnchat
09:39:22 pm kelly_smith01: RT @kasey428: RT @LearnNuggets: Q5) dont condem or criticize failure and mistakes. Encourage growth #lrnchat
09:39:29 pm kelly_smith01: RT @marciamarcia: @criticallearner The best intentions for blocking malware can also block brainware learning, sharing, sparking #lrnchat
09:39:30 pm olliegardener: q5) Make sharing a bi-product of working/learning – of organising your work, finding answers to Qs and “getting on with it” #lrnchat
09:39:41 pm LearnNuggets: RT @chrisstjohn: Alan Kay said, “Once something goes into PPT it ceases 2b knowledge. < then Alan Kay doesn’t know how to design #Lrnchat
09:39:52 pm JaneBozarth: @chrisstjohn too bad he can’t differentiate tool from designer #lrnchat
09:39:57 pm b5alive: RT @marciamarcia: The best intentions for blocking malware can also block brainware learning, sharing, sparking #lrnchat
09:40:04 pm olliegardener: RT @rosler: Q5) Stop trying to control the process so damn much…people are smart on their own. #lrnchat
09:40:19 pm marciamarcia: @alc47 Weve been stuck with text based *training* for too long. Learning is never text based. #lrnchat
09:40:29 pm kelly_smith01: RT @olliegardener: RT @rosler: Q5) Stop trying to control the process so damn much…people are smart on their own. #lrnchat
09:40:31 pm asbergman: RT @olliegardener: RT @rosler: Q5) Stop trying to control the process so damn much…people are smart on their own. #lrnchat
09:40:40 pm LearnNuggets: RT @LnDDave: Q5) check ur ego at the door & realize that some of ur skills may not be as valuable in the future; we need new skills #Lrnchat
09:40:50 pm MMTingley: Q5) Sharing is part of teamwork – often one of those company competencies that are always talked about #lrnchat
09:40:57 pm alc47: @olliegardener Why a by-product. Learning just as valid as output – just different timeframe #Lrnchat
09:40:58 pm C4LPT: RT @rosler: Q5) Stop trying to control the process so damn much…people are smart on their own. #lrnchat
09:41:10 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat PPT doesn’t kill learning, lame bulletpoints kill learning.
09:41:19 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q5 before you set out to slay your next instructional dragon laugh at something: http://t.co/kWUpyAFB .. laughing aerates the brain
09:41:21 pm alc47: RT @C4LPT: RT @rosler: Q5) Stop trying to control the process so damn much…people are smart on their own. #Lrnchat
09:41:24 pm britz: @LearnNuggets True knowledge does not lie within ppl but between them, in their conversations and interactions. Knowledge flows #lrnchat
09:41:33 pm TriciaRansom: Q5) focus on the learner, their needs and painpoints instead of just being an order-taker for courses. #lrnchat
09:41:49 pm JaneBozarth: RT @LnDDave: Q5) check ur ego at the door & realize that some of ur skills may not be as valuable in the future; we need new skills #lrnchat
09:41:52 pm chrisstjohn: Instead of competencies, i am beginning to like the idea of “merit badges”, you know short bits of free range learning. #lrnchat
09:41:53 pm stickylearning: RT @LearnNuggets: RT @chrisstjohn: Alan Kay said, “Once something goes into PPT it ceases 2b knowledge. < then Alan Kay doesn’t know how to design #Lrnchat
09:41:59 pm LearnNuggets: Q5) learning is and happens everywhere. So is inspiration and innovation. Let go! #Lrnchat
09:42:00 pm NixTheNext: Q5 Be subversive/go viral? Tweet as an entity other than l&d? (not so site its a good idea, but want thoughts) #devlearn #lrnchat
09:42:07 pm nancyrubin: RT @LearnNuggets True knowledge does not lie within ppl but between them, in their conversations and interactions. Knowledge flows #lrnchat
09:42:11 pm marciamarcia: Squashing human ingenuity seems to be the goal of some leaders. RT @rosler: Stop trying to control…people are smart on their own. #lrnchat
09:42:20 pm criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Think for 2 seconds: Do you like being controlled or autonomy? Then, why would you treat professional peers differently?
09:42:37 pm britz: RT @C4LPT: RT @rosler: Q5) Stop trying to control the process so damn much…people are smart on their own. /Hire ppl you trust #lrnchat
09:42:45 pm Musicmosaic1: Q5) Emulate the real world environment as much as possible. Living it is learning it. Making it your own is the key component. #lrnchat
09:42:46 pm kelly_smith01: Q5) Encourage new ideas – don’t be afraid to modify, eliminate the work flow or re-cast the work flow participants. #lrnchat
09:42:48 pm TriciaRansom: Quote of the night: Free range learning. #lrnchat
09:42:51 pm NixTheNext: RT @britz: @LearnNuggets True knowledge does not lie within ppl but between them, in their conversations and interactions. Knowledge flows #lrnchat
09:42:55 pm MMTingley: Deep! RT @britz: @LearnNuggets True knowledge doesn’t lie w/in ppl but btw them, in conversations & interactions. Knowledge flows #lrnchat
09:43:12 pm NixTheNext: .@britz is a twitter poet #devlearn #lrnchat
09:43:14 pm nancyrubin: Encourage (and help) employees to become experts in their field and share their information internally and externally #lrnchat
09:43:15 pm rosler: Sadly, truer words ne’er spoken… RT @marciamarcia: Squashing human ingenuity seems to be the goal of some leaders. #lrnchat
09:43:20 pm asbergman: @TriciaRansom is on it tonight! focus on the learner, their needs and painpoints instead of just being an order-taker for courses. #lrnchat
09:43:36 pm olliegardener: @alc47 A bi-product is often worth more than the principal product
Look at delicacies. #lrnchat
09:43:44 pm olliegardener: @TriciaRansom is on it tonight! focus on the learner, their needs and painpoints instead of just being an order-taker for courses. #lrnchat
09:43:48 pm chrisstjohn: PPT says “insert text here” NOT create knowledge event. #lrnchat
09:43:54 pm criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat What will you achieve by controlling? It’s not like you can learn FOR them (or make ‘em). They gotta take ownership. Give it.
09:43:57 pm ryantracey: I’m hungry – RT @TriciaRansom Quote of the night: Free range learning. #lrnchat
09:44:02 pm marciamarcia: We hire the smartest people we can find then treat them like idiots. #lrnchat
09:44:07 pm olliegardener: @LearnNuggets True knowledge doesnt lie w/in ppl but btw them, in conversations & interactions. Knowledge flows #lrnchat
09:44:25 pm b5alive: @marciamarcia Wouldn’t say never. Important not to *only* use text, though. #lrnchat
09:44:35 pm C4LPT: RT @marciamarcia: We hire the smartest people we can find then treat them like idiots. #lrnchat
09:44:39 pm JaneBozarth: RT @marciamarcia: We hire the smartest people we can find then treat them like idiots. #lrnchat
09:44:44 pm NixTheNext: RT @marciamarcia: We hire the smartest people we can find then treat them like idiots. #lrnchat
09:44:47 pm billymitchell1: RT @nancyrubin: Encourage (and help) employees to become experts in their field and share their information internally and externally #lrnchat
09:44:51 pm TriciaRansom: What the Sam Hill? I’ve got almost 7,000 tweets? #lrnchat
09:45:02 pm MMTingley: Yes, Don’t infantalize the learner! RT @marciamarcia: We hire the smartest people we can find then treat them like idiots. #lrnchat
09:45:02 pm nancyrubin: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @marciamarcia: We hire the smartest people we can find then treat them like idiots. #lrnchat
09:45:04 pm criticallearner: RT @marciamarcia: We hire the smartest people we can find then treat them like idiots. #lrnchat > Sad, but often true.
09:45:14 pm JD_Dillon: RT @marciamarcia: We hire the smartest people we can find then treat them like idiots. #lrnchat
09:45:25 pm writegrrl: Love it! RT @TriciaRansom: Quote of the night: Free range learning. #lrnchat
09:45:27 pm ChristyATucker: @marciamarcia I don’t know. Some orgs hiring processes are designed to find doormats. #lrnchat
09:45:32 pm BVChorale: #lrnchat trying a diff acct than @MoxziDotCom ! Hellooooo
09:45:36 pm TriciaRansom: I can see them running free! RT @ryantracey: I’m hungry – RT @TriciaRansom Quote of the night: Free range learning. #lrnchat
09:45:37 pm mfitri: RT @marciamarcia: We hire the smartest people we can find then treat them like idiots. #lrnchat
09:45:37 pm LearnNuggets: RT @chrisstjohn: PPT says “insert text here” NOT create knowledge event. < Dr. @JaneBozarth said that very thing today #Lrnchat
09:45:41 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q5 put yourself in the shoes of your learners: learn something new, like cartooning ( http://t.co/9H0OkfFG ) @zephrael
09:46:01 pm criticallearner: RT @christyatucker: @marciamarcia I don’t know. Some orgs hiring processes are designed to find doormats. #lrnchat > Sad, also true.
09:46:16 pm LearningLava: RT @marciamarcia: We hire the smartest people we can find then treat them like idiots. #lrnchat
09:46:21 pm glfceo: “@marciamarcia: We hire the smartest people we can find then treat them like idiots. #lrnchat” < reason? Idiots are in charge
)!!
09:46:21 pm lrnchat: QWrap) Time to wrap up. Goodbyes, farewells, shameless plugs welcome. #lrnchat
09:46:34 pm marciamarcia: Sadly true. RT @ChristyATucker: @marciamarcia Some orgs hiring processes are designed to find doormats. #lrnchat
09:46:39 pm britz: @TriciaRansom shhh im staying at circus-circus #lrnchat (kidding!) But they do have killer powdered eggs at breakfast buffet ![]()
09:46:41 pm C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: QWrap) Time to wrap up. Goodbyes, farewells, shameless plugs welcome. #lrnchat
09:46:42 pm tadmaster: “@marciamarcia: We hire the smartest people we can find then treat them like idiots. #lrnchat” – Mr. Nail, did that hammer hurt your head?
09:46:49 pm nancyrubin: Any thoughts on systems like this (just announced) Pearson and Knewton Team Up to Make Learning Personal http://t.co/rs5kxqUt #lrnchat
09:46:49 pm TriciaRansom: RT @marciamarcia: We hire the smartest people we can find then treat them like idiots. #lrnchat
09:46:59 pm chrisstjohn: @LearnNuggets Jane is one of the smartest ppl i know. #lrnchat
09:47:44 pm alc47: Nic Laycock grt to have shared “live”. Blogging about helping learning communities become effective #Lrnchat
09:47:50 pm LearnNuggets: Qwrap) NuggetHead Studioz – find me and let’s ideate and designboard. Awesome live chat tonight! Thanks everyone!!! #Lrnchat
09:47:52 pm britz: RT @chrisstjohn: @LearnNuggets Jane is one of the smartest ppl i know. / Yes THEY are
#lrnchat
09:47:56 pm urbie: #lrnchat urbie delgado, instructional designer, late of Phoenix/Roswell, focus: rehumanizing elearning, iPad driver, http://t.co/kUCk7xGL
09:48:03 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat Qwrap> David Glow, Tampa, FL: Anyone exploring learning analytics, I’d love to collabor8 (my new passion).
09:48:04 pm ryantracey: Qwrap) Foching up social media http://t.co/RQpJTZWO #shamelessplug #lrnchat
09:48:08 pm BVChorale: #lrnchat 20 tweets from here and THIS shows up in #lrnchat ?? I knew it was personal !!
09:48:09 pm tadmaster: @marciamarcia @rosler (I’m not part of #lrnchat but…) My mantra at work lately = “Control != Leadership”
09:48:10 pm JaneBozarth: Night y’all ! #LoveMeSomeLrnchat #lrnchat
09:48:20 pm kelly_smith01: Q5) Hagel and Brown say Break Your Filters http://t.co/0dJ1SoIL #lrnchat #bigshift
09:48:25 pm glfceo: RT @marciamarcia: Sadly true. RT @ChristyATucker: @marciamarcia Some orgs hiring processes are designed to find doormats. #lrnchat
09:48:30 pm NixTheNext: Qwrap- becky from chicago, thanks for the live tweet, #devlearn #lrnchat. Where’s dinner?
09:48:36 pm nancyrubin: For those of you in Vegas you have to go to Hash House a Go Go for breakfast – http://t.co/QgNVfYxa #devlearn #lrnchat
09:48:40 pm britz: Its over already!? Dang #lrnchat
09:48:49 pm C4LPT: qwrap) had a fab time #lrnchat in Vegas – more please
09:49:00 pm asbergman: QWrap) Andy from Indy, thanks for a great first #lrnchat
09:49:05 pm olliegardener: qwrap: Ollie Gardener. Cofounder of NoddlePod. Blog: http://t.co/tLnloJux #lrnchat
09:49:25 pm chambo_online: ChAmberlin from Vegas this week… And I am out #Lrnchat
09:49:26 pm tinotchka: RT @marciamarcia: We hire the smartest people we can find then treat them like idiots. #lrnchat
09:49:38 pm tinotchka: RT @marciamarcia: Sadly true. RT @ChristyATucker: @marciamarcia Some orgs hiring processes are designed to find doormats. #lrnchat
09:49:41 pm b5alive: QWrap) Goodnight from #devlearn. Now, where’s dinner? Anyone else hungry? #lrnchat
09:49:53 pm kelly_smith01: Qwrap) Night to #devlearn and #fakedevlearn folks and also #nonfakedevelear folks. #lrnchat
09:49:56 pm chrisstjohn: Shameless plug: http://t.co/6Olbqp0I. June 5-7. Keynotes by Hart, Kapor, O’Reilly and Seimens. It just doesnt get better. #lrnchat
09:50:09 pm marciamarcia: Plugs: If you’re not yet on the http://t.co/SSkGBXtB (lrnchat-list), pls let me know.
#lrnchat
09:50:18 pm britz: I’m Plugging #CNYASTD 1st Pecha Kucha Unconference 11/18. I was selected to speak twice – fun! http://t.co/TZHw2drS #lrnchat
09:50:22 pm JustStormy: someday i will get back to #lrnchat (sigh)
09:50:33 pm nancyrubin: Enjoy the rest of #devlearn. Catch you all next week. Nancy Rubin – undergoing career and life changes – all good… #lrnchat
09:50:40 pm ChristyATucker: QWrap) Christy Tucker in NC. Wishing I could be at #Devlearn with lots of you live. #lrnchat
09:50:55 pm jwillensky: OK, live #lrnchat: @stevier and I are here. We can start.
09:51:08 pm olliegardener: Recently launched a short animation about NoddlePod. what we r about & r trying to do. http://t.co/utIZmJWd #lrnchat
09:51:12 pm Musicmosaic1: QWrap) This was a nice first experience @ #lrnchat. I’m looking forward to my next learning challenge.
#lrnchat
09:51:16 pm rosler: QWrap) Keep learning, keep yearning, keep the knowledge fire burning. Honey Badger 4 Life
http://t.co/L8xETOC1 #lrnchat
09:51:48 pm nancyrubin: RT @olliegardener: Recently launched a short animation about NoddlePod. what we r about & r trying to do. http://t.co/Yii6GhOH #lrnchat
09:52:19 pm marciamarcia: Have a new “we’re working collaboratively” story in your org you’d like to get some press? Contact me. Thx! #lrnchat
09:52:38 pm olliegardener: ahh.. but it really is getting late. My eyelids aren’t quite as keen as I am
RT @britz: Its over already!? Dang #lrnchat
09:52:42 pm chrisstjohn: Qwrap: Chris StJohn (DAU – the WalMart of Learning) Empowering tech herder. Thumbing my nose at 1000s of yrs of educ tradition. #lrnchat
09:52:47 pm stickylearning: ‚Äú@stickylearning: QWrap Great to embed #lrnchat into my workflow today! Now I’ll explain to co-workers what I’ve been up to.‚Äù
09:53:00 pm MMTingley: Qwrap) Melissa Tingley, eLearning ID, digital storyteller and general edugeek, Boston. Wishing 2B at #devlearn #lrnchat
09:53:12 pm britz: Mark Britz wrapping up #fakedevlearn lrnchat hosting efforts from Syracuse, NY. ‘nite all …and thanks to the #devlearn live grp #lrnchat
09:53:29 pm BVChorale: #devlearn #lrnchat so I’m really @MoxziDotCom so please look me up there too. But at least now I can finally participate !
09:54:01 pm JaneBozarth: @britz hey good seeing you #lrnchat
09:54:09 pm TriciaRansom: Qwrap) this is Tricia in Vegas. ID at University of Illinois. Night all. And my husband said to tell all y’all Hi! #lrnchat
09:54:21 pm chrisstjohn: Every Thursday is #lrnchat ! Remember, the early sea gull gets the french fry!
09:54:54 pm stickylearning: RT @olliegardener: Recently launched a short animation about NoddlePod. what we r about & r trying to do. http://t.co/utIZmJWd #lrnchat
09:54:58 pm marciamarcia: Extra big thanks to @LnDDave #devlearn & all the new participants tonight. Hope to see you again real soon. #lrnchat
09:55:22 pm britz: @JaneBozarth Right back at ya Jane! see you at #lscon or #mlearncon ? #lrnchat
09:55:29 pm cingad: RT @chrisstjohn: You can herd cats. Just move their food! #lrnchat
09:55:34 pm bartb1067: RT @chrisstjohn: You can herd cats. Just move their food! #lrnchat
09:55:57 pm olliegardener: @marciamarcia if ur interested in coworking entrepreneurs; http://t.co/5245fEKU or students @ edinb.uni learning collaboratively? #lrnchat
09:56:09 pm SeaslugOfDoom: RT @b5alive QWrap) Goodnight from #devlearn. Now, where’s dinner? Anyone else hungry? #lrnchat << bloody starving
09:56:20 pm marciamarcia: So well said! RT @olliegardener: it really is getting late. My eyelids arent quite as keen as I am
#lrnchat
09:56:31 pm olliegardener: @stickylearning: QWrap Great to embed #lrnchat into my workflow today! Now Ill explain to co-workers what Ive been up to.” #lrnchat
09:56:40 pm nancyrubin: Good night folks. Thanks for another great #lrnchat. I learn more from you all every single week! Talk about just in time learning! #lrnchat
09:58:03 pm olliegardener: @marciamarcia
Thanks. might just hit the pillow now. “3:00 am” is just not a welcome sight #lrnchat
09:59:37 pm filopemen: RT @marciamarcia: We hire the smartest people we can find then treat them like idiots. #lrnchat
09:59:57 pm b5alive: @SeaslugOfDoom Lets do this. Who else wants to join up for dinner? #lrnchat #devlearn
10:01:44 pm lowcus: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @LnDDave: Q5) check ur ego at the door & realize that some of ur skills may not be as valuable in the future; we need new skills #lrnchat
10:02:46 pm EA_learning: Day two over from #DevLearn and I’m starving. Where is the food at and who is going? #Lrnchat
Transcript 27 October 2011 (late)
October 28, 201108:30:08 pm lrnchat: Welcome to #lrnchat! How are you this fine evening?
08:30:24 pm Quinnovator: it’s time for the memestream that is #lrnchat, duck or better yet join!
08:30:37 pm LnDDave: @criticallearner Hi David – Thanks very much for the kind words in your blog post! #lrnchat
08:30:40 pm chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Welcome to #lrnchat! How are you this fine evening?
08:30:44 pm Quinnovator: welcome to new and returning #lrnchat participants, another good time is in the offing
08:30:44 pm Ruthie_HB: @lrnchat Fantabulous! Ready for another #lrnchat. ![]()
08:31:00 pm briandusablon: Watch out! I’m back for the evening #lrnchat! #lrnchat
08:31:06 pm lrnchat: If you’re new to #lrnchat, our “rules” for playing are available here: http://t.co/4Lr208H4
08:31:06 pm LnDDave: I’m joining #lrnchat for the next 90 minutes – please excuse the excess tweets!
08:31:26 pm briandusablon: RT @lrnchat: If youre new to #lrnchat, our “rules” for playing are available here: http://t.co/P54Os4Da #lrnchat
08:31:35 pm Quinnovator: seeing some familiar faces here for #lrnchat tonite
08:32:01 pm huiwana: Hi #lrnchat Happy Friday from Singapore!
08:32:02 pm lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself; where you’re from. What have you learned today/this week?
08:32:31 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself; where you’re from. What have you learned today/this week?
08:32:47 pm pmtrainer: RT @lrnchat: Welcome to #lrnchat! How are you this fine evening? #lrnchat
08:32:58 pm Quinnovator: g’day to @briandusablon @LnDDave @criticallearner @rjpanetti @kelly_smith01 @minutebio and more, I’m sure #lrnchat
08:33:02 pm pmtrainer: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself; where youre from. What have you learned today/this week? #lrnchat
08:33:10 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, freelancing around #lrnchat
08:33:50 pm criticallearner: Hi #lrnchat folks: David Glow, Tampa, FL here.
08:34:03 pm HiTweeps: Hi @Ruthie_HB | re: Hi Tweeps! You might want to zip or mute me for the next 90 minutes. I’m going to hop into #lrnchat. ![]()
08:34:04 pm briandusablon: Q0) Hey friends. Brian Dusablon. Learning Ninja, dad, Cubs fan
. Care about your users, people. cc @remembertheuser & #TheToolBar #lrnchat
08:34:06 pm AnotherAnna: Portland, Oregon, learned chuffed is British slang for being pleased about something. Anything else didn’t stick. #Lrnchat
08:34:15 pm rjpanetti: @Quinnovator @briandusablon @LnDDave @criticallearner @kelly_smith01 @minutebio Top o’the evening to ya… #lrnchat
08:34:19 pm briandusablon: @Quinnovator Howdy Clark! #lrnchat
08:34:22 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, learning experience design strategist, author/consultant/speaker, genial malcontent, evil genius, Walnut Creek CA #lrnchat
08:34:35 pm pmtrainer: Coline Son Lee from Freano, CA, Performance Consultant. Learned some new tools of the trade in eLEarning #lrnchat
08:35:08 pm Quinnovator: and don’t forget the Official #lrnchat Drinking Game‚Ñ¢ http://t.co/VeuihVpN (drinks at the ready!)
08:35:09 pm Ruthie_HB: Ruth from Chicago burb. Web content manager & learning enthusiast. Learned it’s exhilarating crossing off your to-do list. #lrnchat
08:35:37 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman – eLearning Designer at Johns Hopkins in Baltimore, MD #lrnchat
08:35:53 pm briandusablon: RT @Quinnovator: and dont forget the Official #lrnchat Drinking Game‚Ñ¢ http://t.co/y5SHWSlT (drinks at the ready!) #lrnchat
08:36:07 pm odguru: Christy from Guelph Canada #lrnchat. Evenin’ everyone.
08:36:14 pm odguru: RT @Quinnovator: and don’t forget the Official #lrnchat Drinking Game‚Ñ¢ http://t.co/VeuihVpN (drinks at the ready!)
08:36:32 pm briandusablon: @Quinnovator La Fin Du Monde on tap for tonight.
#lrnchat
08:36:35 pm Quinnovator: q0) learned to resurrect old ideas that were good but too early, they may yet find their niche! #lrnchat
08:36:45 pm AnotherAnna: Anna, I also learned Latin American facilitator are very personable, but they don’t like the virtual classroom as much as F2F ##Lrnchat
08:36:56 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat shouldn’t the official drinking game tweet be offered with a few of the drinkwords embedded #experientiallearning
08:37:02 pm Quinnovator: @briandusablon ah, a *very* nice drop. Torpedo Extra IPA for me #lrnchat
08:37:06 pm LnDDave: Greetings #lrnchat, David Kelly from NYC. Learner, Dad. and for the next week, On-Site Backchannel Curator for DevLearn.
08:37:10 pm minutebio: @rjpanetti Right back at ya – Top o’the evening #lrnchat
08:37:30 pm Quinnovator: @briandusablon you’ll be doing *just* fine if you’ve got the 750 ml bottle!
#lrnchat
08:38:05 pm BizedgeLLC: RT @CatMoore: Why you only need to test with 5 users: http://t.co/7bMeCDf2 @ruzuku #lrnchat
08:38:26 pm chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Q0) We begin w/ a #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself; where you’re from. What have you learned today/this week?
08:40:04 pm lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with eLearning and/or performance support items you create? #lrnchat
08:40:05 pm Quinnovator: @CatMoore ah, yes, heuristic usability #lrnchat
08:40:11 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with eLearning and/or performance support items you create? #lrnchat
08:40:12 pm minutebio: Q0) Learned 2day – Participant knows smile sheets r not anonymous when they r the only 1 in class #lrnchat
08:40:15 pm chet_stevenson: Chester Stevenson, Instructional and Performance Technology Grad Student at Boise State, Learned personally the value of trust #lrnchat
08:40:26 pm chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with eLearning and/or performance support items you create? #lrnchat
08:40:31 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with eLearning and/or performance support items you create? #lrnchat
08:40:43 pm rjpanetti: Rjpanetti, learning consultant, Atlanta, I am steeped in old timey learning materials…I’m just silly with them… #lrnchat
08:40:46 pm Quinnovator: q1) think learners prefer to experience elearning and performance support, not “interface” with them
#lrnchat
08:40:47 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with eLearning and/or performance support items you create? #lrnchat
08:40:47 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with eLearning and/or performance support items you create? #lrnchat
08:40:48 pm KoreenOlbrish: <–western Philly burbs, games, virtual worlds, immersive learning…now a division of @ayogogames
#lrnchat
08:40:50 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with eLearning and/or performance support items you create? #lrnchat
08:41:18 pm pmtrainer: Q0) Got my feet wet with articulate this week
#lrnchat
08:41:21 pm TheAirton: Q0) Airton from the Mothership awaiting Beavis and Butthead’s return, oh and I do training stuff #lrnchat
08:41:24 pm chet_stevenson: RT @Quinnovator: q1) think learners prefer to experience elearning and performance support, not “interface” with them
#lrnchat
08:41:28 pm briandusablon: How Brian does #lrnchat. http://t.co/ru3OTmMj
08:41:34 pm pmtrainer: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with eLearning and/or performance support items you create? #lrnchat
08:41:56 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q0) I learned that I really have a lot of support out there! #lrnchat
08:42:12 pm minutebio: Q1) Sumtimes they feel entertained & although they don’t usually say “I met the objectives.” they do… Pretty sure #lrnchat
08:42:33 pm Quinnovator: q1) can range from “rather have my teeth pulled without anaesthetic” to “can I have another go?” #lrnchat
08:42:51 pm briandusablon: Q1) Our learners are pissed before they even get to the items I create. Accessing them is painful. #lrnchat
08:42:53 pm pmtrainer: Agreed! >>RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q0) I learned that I really have a lot of support out there! #lrnchat
08:43:03 pm rjpanetti: Q1) typically happy, sometimes grateful…it’s a big improvement over why they are used to. #lrnchat
08:43:08 pm TheAirton: Q1] At the moment, high involvement when job is on the line.and does not interfere with daily duties…
#lrnchat
08:43:10 pm criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat often, slightly worse than using the items they create themselves (if I am being honest)
08:43:12 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q1. We had one learner/player of an ARG jump up and down asking for more. Thought that was a good sign. #lrnchat
08:43:13 pm AnotherAnna: Q1) angry as all get when the tech doesn’t work, giddy when it’s done right. #Lrnchat
08:43:41 pm briandusablon: Nice! RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q1. We had one learner/player of an ARG jump up and down asking for more. Thought that was a good sign. #lrnchat
08:43:56 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with eLearning and/or performance support items you create? #lrnchat
08:44:07 pm Ruthie_HB: Q1) Depends on learners. Some r resistant @ 1st when hear “new” learning opp. is available but after trying become comfortable. #lrnchat
08:44:21 pm odguru: Q1) If they r involved, they feel great. If not suspicious. #Lrnchat
08:44:24 pm criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat Depends on how much legal and compliance “makes” us do some things- the more influence=”I want to drink bleach” from users
08:44:32 pm minutebio: Q1) Often happy when it is concise and relevant. #lrnchat
08:44:55 pm Quinnovator: q1) better design doesn’t take longer (er, after *some* work): http://t.co/4MF1pS1k #lrnchat
08:44:59 pm criticallearner: RT @koreenolbrish: Q1. We had one learner/player of an ARG jump up and down asking for more. Thought that was a good sign. #lrnchat >YES!
08:45:00 pm pmtrainer: Q1) Usually positive, I think the biggest issue is the equipment, if the equip works then things are smooth #lrnchat
08:45:21 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Can’t say at this moment – doing overview page turners
#lrnchat
08:45:24 pm criticallearner: RT @odguru: Q1) If they r involved, they feel great. If not suspicious. #Lrnchat
08:45:31 pm odguru: RT@KoreenOlbrish We had one learner/player of an ARG jump up and down asking for more. Thought that was a good sign. #lrnchat << Indeed!
08:45:31 pm minutebio: Q1) Many appreciate when they have practical take-aways like printable job aids #lrnchat
08:45:35 pm Quinnovator: q1) response better if you address the WIIFM! #lrnchat
08:45:47 pm kelly_smith01: RT @odguru: Q1) If they r involved, they feel great. If not suspicious. #Lrnchat
08:45:50 pm briandusablon: RT @Quinnovator: q1) better design doesnt take longer (er, after *some* work): http://t.co/yTe6NG3d #lrnchat
08:45:56 pm AnotherAnna: @pmtrainer very frustrating when the tech doesn’t work
#lrnchat
08:46:07 pm rjpanetti: Q1 continued) …but in the land of the blind a one-eyed man is a king! #lrnchat
08:46:16 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @odguru: Q1) If they r involved, they feel great. If not suspicious. #Lrnchat // if opp. to involve them early as new item create, helps!
08:46:22 pm pmtrainer: RT @minutebio: Q1) Many appreciate when they have practical take-aways like printable job aids #lrnchat
08:46:26 pm LnDDave: Q1) When learners complain about ‘having to take the training’ ,we own that as designers. #lrnchat
08:46:52 pm briandusablon: RT @LnDDave: Q1) When learners complain about having to take the training ,we own that as designers. #lrnchat
08:47:00 pm TheAirton: I call it the “So What” Factor RT @quinnovator: q1) response better if you address the WIIFM! #lrnchat
08:47:00 pm criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat If we get to really drive the whole “form follows function”, they like the efficiency (let ‘em test outta what they don’t need)
08:47:11 pm pmtrainer: RT @LnDDave: Q1) When learners complain about having to take the training ,we own that as designers. #lrnchat
08:47:15 pm minutebio: RT @LnDDave: Q1) When learners complain about having to take the training ,we own that as designers. #lrnchat
08:47:16 pm criticallearner: RT @minutebio: Q1) Many appreciate when they have practical take-aways like printable job aids #lrnchat
08:47:22 pm Quinnovator: q1) if you’re making it meaningful, relevant, and challenging, it’s better #lrnchat
08:47:27 pm TheAirton: What are the drinking rules tonight? #lrnchat
08:47:41 pm briandusablon: Q1) They love it if they get just what they need, right when they need it. Complain about compliance training. Normal. #lrnchat
08:47:49 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: q1) if you’re making it meaningful, relevant, and challenging, it’s better #lrnchat
08:47:53 pm MaryRNeducator: RT @Quinnovator: q1) better design doesn’t take longer (er, after *some* work): http://t.co/4MF1pS1k #lrnchat
08:47:54 pm Quinnovator: @TheAirton same as it ever was http://t.co/VeuihVpN #lrnchat
08:47:54 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @criticallearner: RT @minutebio: Q1) Many appreciate when they have practical take-aways like printable job aids #lrnchat
08:47:59 pm odguru: @kelly_smith01 what’s “overview page turners” #dumbquestion #lrnchat
08:49:05 pm criticallearner: RT @briandusablon: Q1) They love it if they get just what they need, when they need it. Complain about compliance training. Normal. #lrnchat
08:49:23 pm TheAirton: Thank You for the insight @quinnovator #lrnchat
08:50:33 pm Quinnovator: q1) seen bad job aids, that had good content but were still lacking in design, we need to do better! #lrnchat
08:50:35 pm criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat they hate it when legal/compliance folks mandate nav lockdowns so users “must” see content.
08:50:41 pm TheAirton: @odguru There are NO #dumbquestions, just inquisitive idiots
#lrnchat
08:50:42 pm briandusablon: Q1) I’m pushing more performance support than training. 1) give users what they want. 2) don’t have to go through LMS to access. #lrnchat
08:51:01 pm britz: Dang! Looks like a gr8 #lrnchat …pumpkin carving w/ kiddos takes precidence tho. Enjoy, i’ll be sure to read transcript.
08:51:01 pm rjpanetti: @LnDDave and yes, you need to take the training..we don’t have that chair from The Matrix that teaches Kung Fu in 30sec…yet #lrnchat
08:51:02 pm minutebio: Q1) “Give ‘em just enough 2 make ‘em dangerous” – my old boss use 2 say #lrnchat
08:51:10 pm briandusablon: Agreed. RT @Quinnovator: q1) seen bad job aids, that had good content but were still lacking in design, we need to do better! #lrnchat
08:51:24 pm Quinnovator: RT @briandusablon: Q1) pushing more performance support than training 1) give users what they want 2) don’t have to go through LMS #lrnchat
08:51:33 pm criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat Worst case, like this http://t.co/DdezNupM
08:51:48 pm Quinnovator: RT @criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat they hate it when legal/compliance folks mandate nav lockdowns so users “must” see content. < ditto
08:51:55 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) The less time spent in training class or mode the happier end-user will be, #lrnchat
08:51:56 pm criticallearner: RT @briandusablon: Q1) pushing more performance support than training 1) give users what they want 2) don’t have to go through LMS #lrnchat
08:52:00 pm briandusablon: @britz Awesome. Enjoy the pumpkin carving! #ThisManHasHisPrioritiesStraight #lrnchat
08:52:16 pm kelly_smith01: RT @briandusablon: Q1) pushing more performance support than training 1) give users what they want 2) don’t have to go through LMS #lrnchat
08:52:29 pm TheAirton: On Job Aids, if it isn’t useful on the ‘JOB’ then it’s a ‘while I’m in training aid” Focus on future use resource #lrnchat
08:52:32 pm Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: Q1) less time spent in training class/mode the happier end-user will be #lrnchat < tradeoff: sufficient practice needed
08:53:02 pm Ruthie_HB: @briandusablon Would you push it to them in chunks/bite-size bits as they perform? #lrnchat
08:53:09 pm minutebio: RT @Quinnovator: seen bad job aids, … | Know they’re good when plenty of staff have ‘em taped 2 their wall #lrnchat
08:53:13 pm LnDDave: Q1) When was the last time you heard someone complain about the iPhone interface? It just makes sense. Why can’t eLearning? #lrnchat
08:53:20 pm odguru: @rjpanetti @LnDDave Compliance classes are such a hard thing for all involved. 2 bad you can’t just say “don’t be an asshole.” #Lrnchat
08:53:39 pm Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q1) When was last time you heard someone complain about iPhone interface? It just makes sense. Why can’t eLearning? #lrnchat
08:53:43 pm pmtrainer: RT @TheAirton: On Job Aids, if it isnt useful on the JOB then its a while Im in training aid” Focus on future use resource #lrnchat
08:54:02 pm briandusablon: @Quinnovator @criticallearner even if locked down, we can still make those screens more user-friendly and consumable. #lrnchat
08:54:03 pm criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat Best case, they don’t realize we participated, they just worked and we walked alongside to support.
08:54:08 pm lrnchat: Q2) How do you design to meet the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
08:54:17 pm Quinnovator: q1) mistakes made: courses when job aids would do; compliance as CYA, not learning; knowledge dump instead of skill shift #lrnchat
08:54:23 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design to meet the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
08:54:24 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design to meet the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
08:54:26 pm briandusablon: @Ruthie_HB Depends on the user, environment, access, topic. #lrnchat
08:54:29 pm pmtrainer: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design to meet the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
08:54:42 pm Ruthie_HB: @theairton ..and assimilate that resource for reuse versus filing it away in a binder or training materials to collect dust. #lrnchat
08:54:46 pm kelly_smith01: @Quinnovator Agreed with need for sufficient practice. One way (there are others) mobile devices for practice. #lrnchat
08:54:52 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design to meet the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
08:54:55 pm Quinnovator: q2) know thy audience! #lrnchat (what makes their heart beat faster, get up in the morning, etc) #lrnchat
08:55:02 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design to meet the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
08:55:02 pm Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: @Quinnovator Agreed with need for sufficient practice. One way (there are others) mobile devices for practice. #lrnchat
08:55:04 pm TheAirton: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design to meet the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
08:55:05 pm criticallearner: RT @lnddave: Q1) When was last time u heard someone complain abt iPhone interface? just makes sense. >I use iStuff often 2 design #lrnchat
08:55:09 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design to meet the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
08:55:13 pm briandusablon: Q2) Know your audience. Interview them. Learn from them. Sit with them. #lrnchat
08:55:16 pm rjpanetti: RT @Quinnovator: q2) know thy audience! #lrnchat (what makes their heart beat faster, get up in the morning, etc) #lrnchat
08:55:37 pm LnDDave: Q2) Ask for feedback Before or During design, rather than after implementation. #lrnchat
08:55:43 pm AnotherAnna: Q2) don’t skip the assessment, does that ever happen? #lrnchat
08:56:01 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @quinnovator: q2) know thy audience! #lrnchat (what makes their heart beat faster, get up in the morning, etc) #lrnchat
08:56:13 pm Quinnovator: q2) hint: find out why the SMEs think it’s interesting; they do this as a passion, tap into it #lrnchat
08:56:15 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q2. I spend 80% of my time on audience and organizational analysis, 20% on design. Once you do the analysis, the design is gravy. #lrnchat
08:56:22 pm pmtrainer: Q2) How does it impact their job and their performance and the overall organization (biz objectives) #lrnchat
08:56:23 pm TheAirton: Q2} Easy, I ask questions! No, too easy? #lrnchat
08:56:40 pm MMTingley: Ok then, back from story time on to #lrnchat
08:56:43 pm criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat involve them
08:56:50 pm Quinnovator: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q2. spend 80% of time on audience & org analysis, 20% on design. Once you do the analysis, the design is gravy #lrnchat
08:56:52 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) Find ways to provide learning event and/or performance support to end-user at job location. #lrnchat
08:56:54 pm briandusablon: Q2) Don’t always design for lowest common denominator. This alienates your better employees. Work with both (or more) audiences. #lrnchat
08:57:12 pm briandusablon: Simple, ain’t it? RT @TheAirton: Q2} Easy, I ask questions! No, too easy? #lrnchat
08:57:14 pm minutebio: Q2) Know thy’re responsibilities, learning needs, expectations, etc. & design to them. It should make they’re job easier #lrnchat
08:57:26 pm criticallearner: RT @koreenolbrish: Q2. I spend 80% time on audience and org analysis, 20% on design. Once you do the analysis, the design is gravy. #lrnchat
08:57:27 pm MaryRNeducator: RT @Quinnovator: q2) hint: find out why the SMEs think it’s interesting; they do this as a passion, tap into it #lrnchat
08:57:31 pm minutebio: RT @briandusablon: Q2) Dont always design for lowest common denominator. This alienates your better employees.. #lrnchat
08:57:39 pm Quinnovator: RT @briandusablon: Q2) Don’t design for lowest common denominator. Alienates your better employees. Work with more audiences. #lrnchat
08:57:47 pm MaryRNeducator: RT @Quinnovator: q2) know thy audience! #lrnchat (what makes their heart beat faster, get up in the morning, etc) #lrnchat
08:57:49 pm pmtrainer: RT @criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat involve them #lrnchat
08:57:53 pm Ruthie_HB: Q2) Don’t design for one and done. Review audience outputs and constantly redesign as your audience learning develops/changes. #lrnchat
08:58:15 pm minutebio: RT @criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat involve them #lrnchat
08:58:17 pm LnDDave: Q2) User Testing… with actual users. #lrnchat
08:58:29 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @LnDDave: Q2) User Testing… with actual users. #lrnchat
08:58:33 pm pmtrainer: RT @MaryRNeducator: RT @Quinnovator: q2) know thy audience! #lrnchat (what makes their heart beat faster, get up in the morning) #lrnchat
08:58:42 pm Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q2) User Testing… with actual users. #lrnchat
08:58:48 pm MMTingley: Q2) Find out about real situations they encounter, and use them in the learning #lrnchat
08:58:53 pm odguru: RT @Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q2) User Testing… with actual users. #lrnchat
08:59:07 pm briandusablon: Q2) Easier to design in chunks and set up for re-use and can be dynamic than to design one thing and push it out to all. #lrnchat
08:59:08 pm Quinnovator: q2) test, test, and test again. Prototype early and often. Iterate #lrnchat
08:59:11 pm criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat I like the concept of UX vs UI- design for experience, not screen. Jobs said it best (Design is how it works)
08:59:13 pm pmtrainer: RT @MMTingley: Q2) Find out about real situations they encounter, and use them in the learning #lrnchat
08:59:16 pm Quinnovator: RT @MMTingley: Q2) Find out about real situations they encounter, and use them in the learning #lrnchat < bingo!
08:59:22 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @lnddave: Q2) User Testing… with actual users. #lrnchat
08:59:22 pm chet_stevenson: RT @Quinnovator: q2) hint: find out why the SMEs think it’s interesting; they do this as a passion, tap into it #lrnchat
08:59:28 pm minutebio: Q2) Keep in mind what worked for the audience in past courses, or didn’t. Apply what u learned re: design #lrnchat
08:59:38 pm briandusablon: @LnDDave users? what are those? #lrnchat
08:59:50 pm AnotherAnna: RT @chet_stevenson: RT @Quinnovator: q2) hint: find out why the SMEs think its interesting; they do this as a passion, tap into it #lrnchat
08:59:51 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) Keep context (work environment, performance, business cases) in mind. #lrnchat
08:59:57 pm minutebio: RT @pmtrainer: RT @MMTingley: Find out about real situations they encounter, and use them in the learning | Yes, make it relevant #lrnchat
09:00:07 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @quinnovator: RT @MMTingley: Q2) Find out about real situations they encounter, and use them in the learning #lrnchat < bingo! <…
09:00:25 pm minutebio: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Keep context (work environment, performance, business cases) in mind. #lrnchat
09:00:28 pm LnDDave: RT @briandusablon: @LnDDave users? what are those? #lrnchat < Sooo many responses… none of which are appropriate.
09:00:37 pm TheAirton: RT @criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat involve them
09:00:51 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @minutebio: Q2) Keep in mind what worked for the audience in past courses, or didn’t. Apply what u learned re: design #lrnchat
09:00:53 pm briandusablon: Experiential and real – yes! RT @MMTingley: Q2) Find out about real situations they encounter, and use them in the learning. #lrnchat
09:00:55 pm Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Keep context (work environment, performance, business cases) in mind. #lrnchat
09:01:07 pm chet_stevenson: RT @Quinnovator: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q2. spend 80% of time on audience & org analysis, 20% on design. Once you do the analysis, the design is gravy #lrnchat
09:01:14 pm odguru: Know your populations and enable people to have a real feeling of efficacy. #Lrnchat
09:01:15 pm criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat Focus on what they must. Back into the design. Get to perf as quick as possible. Design is done when nothing left to take out.
09:01:30 pm Quinnovator: RT @criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat like the concept of UX vs UI design for experience, not screen. Jobs said it best (Design is how it works)
09:02:02 pm Quinnovator: q2) (channeling @criticallearner ) think Learning Experience Design, not content design, instruction design #lrnchat
09:02:10 pm minutebio: Q2) Treat them as self directed learners. #lrnchat
09:02:22 pm pmtrainer: RT @odguru: Know your populations and enable people to have a real feeling of efficacy. #lrnchat
09:02:24 pm briandusablon: RT @Quinnovator: q2) (channeling @criticallearner ) think Learning Experience Design, not content design, instruction design #lrnchat
09:02:28 pm pmtrainer: RT @minutebio: Q2) Treat them as self directed learners. #lrnchat
09:02:29 pm criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat and if you want to get crazy- design something that actually gives the users control (layout settings, nav flexibility, etc.)
09:02:58 pm TheAirton: Q2] I use an ADDIE somewhere, just to say I did. #lrnchat
09:03:10 pm chet_stevenson: RT @Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Keep context (work environment, performance, business cases) in mind. #lrnchat
09:03:12 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) What does exemplary performance look like, feel like,impact, when completed? #lrnchat
09:03:17 pm Quinnovator: @TheAirton feeling thirsty, were we?
#lrnchat
09:03:32 pm criticallearner: RT @briandusablon RT @Quinnovator: q2) think Learning Experience Design, not content design, instruction design #lrnchat >Performance Design
09:03:37 pm MMTingley: Ha! RT @TheAirton: Q2] I use an ADDIE somewhere, just to say I did. #lrnchat
09:03:55 pm minutebio: RT @criticallearner: you want to get crazy- design something that actually gives users control (layout settings, nav flexibility. #lrnchat
09:04:23 pm criticallearner: RT @mmtingley: Ha! RT @TheAirton: Q2] I use an ADDIE somewhere, just to say I did. #lrnchat >How’s the ROI on that method?
09:04:38 pm odguru: Sounds like user is a new drinking word. #Lrnchat
09:04:40 pm TheAirton: How ’bout just treating them like Grown A#$ Adults RT @minutebio: Q2) Treat them as self directed learners. #lrnchat
09:05:18 pm briandusablon: @minutebio @criticallearner not always. Too many options can make for a poor user experience. #lrnchat
09:05:35 pm minutebio: Q2) Make EASY to navigate & get 2 exactly what THEY need 2 learn, even if it’s only a small portion of the course. #lrnchat
09:05:38 pm TheAirton: As I was looking for the cup, I realized Who moved my cheese? #lrnchat
09:05:51 pm LnDDave: Q2) Remember that the SME that is giving design ‘advice’ often has no clue about the actual end user experience. #lrnchat
09:05:56 pm briandusablon: Q2) @minutebio @criticallearner more important to design so they don’t even notice the interface or nav. They just go. #lrnchat
09:06:00 pm Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q2) Remember that the SME that is giving design ‘advice’ often has no clue about the actual end user experience. #lrnchat
09:06:13 pm criticallearner: RT @briandusablon: @minutebio not always. Too many options can make for a poor user experience. #lrnchat > links back to “know thy audience”
09:06:26 pm Quinnovator: @LnDDave and that the SME usually also doesn’t actually have insight anymore into *how* they do what they do #lrnchat
09:06:37 pm pmtrainer: Often Tru RT @LnDDave: Q2) Remember that SME that is giving design advice often has no clue about the actual end user experience. #lrnchat
09:06:54 pm briandusablon: Word. RT @LnDDave: Q2) Remember that the SME that is giving design advice often has no clue about the actual end user experience. #lrnchat
09:07:13 pm LnDDave: @Quinnovator or any clue about design… Why are we talking to SMEs again?!?!? #lrnchat
09:07:25 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) Hopefully “learners” move to a “pull” mentality – more self-directed and focused on identifying their needs #lrnchat
09:07:42 pm Quinnovator: @LnDDave because we need to *use* them: to a) find out what makes this interesting, and b) to infer the method behind their madness #lrnchat
09:07:47 pm criticallearner: RT @briandusablon: Q2) @minutebio more important to design so they don’t even notice the interface or nav. They just go. #lrnchat >Gold star
09:07:51 pm minutebio: RT @briandusablon: @minutebio @criticallearner mo important 2design so they dont even notice the interface or nav. They just go. #lrnchat
09:07:59 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Hopefully “learners” move to a “pull” mentality – more self-directed and focused on identifying their needs #lrnchat
09:08:05 pm briandusablon: They know things. But keep ‘em away from my canvas. RT @LnDDave: @Quinnovator Why are we talking to SMEs again?!?!? #lrnchat
09:08:09 pm lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the instinct to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
09:08:12 pm LnDDave: @Quinnovator Oh yeah… THAT.
#lrnchat
09:08:21 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the instinct to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
09:08:27 pm TheAirton: I need to ‘check’ a box RT @lnddave: @Quinnovator or any clue about design… Why are we talking to SMEs again?!?!? #lrnchat
09:08:33 pm briandusablon: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the instinct to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
09:08:34 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the instinct to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
09:08:43 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the instinct to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
09:08:46 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the instinct to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
09:08:58 pm briandusablon: Q3) Know your users. And give a damn. #lrnchat
09:09:04 pm TheAirton: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the instinct to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
09:09:08 pm knolinfos: #education #edchat #lrnchat #Twitter How to Use Twitter | @scoopit http://t.co/gVUL6zki
09:09:13 pm Ruthie_HB: @kelly_smith01 learners = sponge (sometimes they need to be reminded too, take learning into their own hands) #lrnchat
09:09:20 pm Quinnovator: q3) professionalism over passion: http://t.co/4Y607tOb #lrnchat
09:09:29 pm AnotherAnna: Q3) see answers to Q2! #lrnchat
09:09:35 pm criticallearner: @LnDDave Q2> #lrnchat SME Role: “what performance is needed, and what does success look like?” “Thanks. Now get out so I can talk w/users”
09:09:37 pm odguru: RT @criticallearner: RT @briandusablon: Q2) @minutebio more important to design so they don’t even notice the interface or nav. They just go. #lrnchat >Gold star
09:09:40 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the instinct to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
09:09:49 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the instinct to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
09:10:01 pm odguru: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q2. I spend 80% of my time on audience and organizational analysis, 20% on design. Once you do the analysis, the design is gravy. #lrnchat
09:10:03 pm minutebio: Q3) Sharing design with others tru-out process & taking input. Storybrd 2 Implementation #lrnchat
09:10:03 pm chet_stevenson: @Quinnovator @LnDDave As @GuyWallace says, there’s a difference between a SME and an Exemplary performer, there’s a need for both. #lrnchat
09:10:12 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) I’ve learned much about “design for others” from interacting on Social Media esp. Twitter,FB and #lrnchat
09:10:23 pm Quinnovator: q3) measure the user’s engagement, not yours #lrnchat
09:10:38 pm briandusablon: Q3) Seriously. Care. If you care, you will think about your users and design for them. #lrnchat
09:10:39 pm Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: Q3) I’ve learned much about “design for others” from interacting on Social Media esp. Twitter,FB and #lrnchat
09:10:42 pm briandusablon: RT @Quinnovator: q3) measure the users engagement, not yours #lrnchat
09:10:48 pm kelly_smith01: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Seriously. Care. If you care, you will think about your users and design for them. #lrnchat
09:10:51 pm TheAirton: Q3() I’m not paid for me. I’m paid to involve and evolve them. #lrnchat
09:10:52 pm chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the instinct to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
09:11:02 pm criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat Got this beat outta me working in advertising- client reviews resembled skeet shooting (u learn to design for “them” quick)
09:11:04 pm briandusablon: Q3) Back to earlier response – involve your users. Early and often. #lrnchat
09:11:05 pm Quinnovator: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Seriously. Care. If you care, you will think about your users and design for them. #lrnchat < word
09:11:18 pm odguru: Q3) Continually working to understand myself and my motives better. #Lrnchat
09:11:24 pm minutebio: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Seriously. Care. If you care, you will think about your users and design for them. | must care #lrnchat
09:11:26 pm Quinnovator: RT @TheAirton: Q3() I’m not paid for me. I’m paid to involve and evolve them. #lrnchat < nice phrase
09:11:27 pm MMTingley: RT @kelly_smith01: Q3) Ive learned much about “design for others” from interacting on Social Media… #lrnchat
09:11:58 pm LnDDave: Q3) I love to take other’s elearning with my designer hat on – see what they did and why they did it. It expands my ideas. #lrnchat
09:12:06 pm briandusablon: Like this. A lot. > RT @TheAirton: Q3) Im not paid for me. Im paid to involve and evolve them. #lrnchat
09:12:17 pm Ruthie_HB: Q3) Understand that you are an advocate for the learner. #lrnchat
09:12:21 pm Quinnovator: @LnDDave you must have a strong stomach!
#lrnchat
09:12:46 pm criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat Realize it designed for a perf purpose for OTHERS. Get over yourself and aim for these two needs.
09:12:56 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Ruthie_HB: Q3) Understand that you are an advocate for the learner. #lrnchat
09:13:01 pm briandusablon: Q3) Think about all the other crap they have to take. And then, don’t be THAT guy (or gal). #lrnchat
09:13:13 pm minutebio: Q3) Always learn from the last course design & listen 2 criticism from end-users #lrnchat
09:13:17 pm TheAirton: @quinnovator Thanks. If it’s ever used, just give me a shout out. Mom’s in Brazil would be proud. #lrnchat
09:13:20 pm LnDDave: @Quinnovator True. Some eLearning I take just to make myself feel better about what I’m doing.
#lrnchat
09:13:33 pm LnDDave: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Think about all the other crap they have to take. And then, don’t be THAT guy (or gal). #lrnchat
09:13:43 pm briandusablon: w00t! 3-2 Rangers. (excuse the interruption) #lrnchat
09:13:48 pm criticallearner: RT @quinnovator: @LnDDave you must have a strong stomach!
#lrnchat > I am detecting a reference to an old sea of garbage blog ![]()
09:13:51 pm briandusablon: RT @minutebio: Q3) Always learn from the last course design & listen 2 criticism from end-users #lrnchat
09:14:03 pm Ruthie_HB: Q3) Goes back to idea of not designing for one and done because for the learner, learning is never done. #lrnchat
09:14:07 pm criticallearner: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Think about all the other crap they have to take. And then, don’t be THAT guy (or gal). #lrnchat > Aces!
09:14:15 pm MMTingley: Q3) My #1 rule – Don’t infantalize the learner. #lrnchat
09:14:19 pm LnDDave: RT @TheAirton: Q3() I’m not paid for me. I’m paid to involve and evolve them. #lrnchat
09:14:25 pm chet_stevenson: Q3) Usability studies #lrnchat
09:14:34 pm minutebio: RT @Ruthie_HB: Q3) Understand that you are an advocate for the learner. | Yes! #lrnchat
09:14:53 pm Quinnovator: q3) pay attention to their *learning styles*. NOT. #lrnchat (sorry, just opened another beer and needed a drink)
09:15:07 pm TheAirton: @minutebio Criticism, How dare they? I shall make an elearning to fix the incorrect view of me. #lrnchat
09:15:10 pm briandusablon: Q3) Go outside the industry – how are web designers doing it? How are app developers doing it? Learn from them. #lrnchat
09:15:27 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat Q3> Let them trial, open your ears. Respond (how we did it with UX in web design and way back in ad testing).
09:15:39 pm briandusablon: Q3) Remember it’s about the entire experience. You may not be able to fix everything, but you can make some areas better. #lrnchat
09:15:41 pm Quinnovator: @criticallearner you have a good memory! #lrnchat
09:15:42 pm LnDDave: Q3) I sometimes look at the last couple of projects I’ve done at once, and only them realize patterns I didn’t realized I’d built. #lrnchat
09:16:03 pm minutebio: RT @TheAirton: @minutebio Criticism, How dare they? I shall make an elearning to fix the incorrect view of me. | That’ll show em
#lrnchat
09:16:13 pm briandusablon: Q3) Learn from peers. Share. Review their work. Have them review yours. #lrnchat
09:16:16 pm TheAirton: Thought I was alone. phhheewwwww RT @quinnovator: #lrnchat (sorry, just opened another beer and needed a drink)
09:16:21 pm Quinnovator: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Think about all the other crap they have to take. And then, don’t be THAT guy (or gal). #lrnchat
09:16:28 pm LnDDave: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Learn from peers. Share. Review their work. Have them review yours. #lrnchat
09:16:35 pm pmtrainer: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Remember its about entire experience. You may not be able to fix everything, but can make some areas better. #Lrnchat
09:16:50 pm Quinnovator: q3) design an experience for them, not just a ‘course’ #lrnchat
09:16:54 pm minutebio: RT @LnDDave: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Learn from peers. Share. Review their work. Have them review yours. #lrnchat
09:17:05 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Learn from peers. Share. Review their work. Have them review yours. #lrnchat <– Review, yes!
09:17:14 pm kelly_smith01: RT @minutebio: RT @LnDDave: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Learn from peers. Share. Review their work. Have them review yours. #lrnchat
09:17:16 pm briandusablon: If I only had one post tonight: Q3) Don’t start inside a rapid development tool or PowerPoint. Start with a blank canvas. #lrnchat
09:17:39 pm Quinnovator: q3) make sure they know *who* designed it, as a little motivation for accolades rather than scorn #lrnchat
09:17:43 pm odguru: RT @briandusablon: If I only had one post tonight: Q3) Don’t start inside a rapid development tool or PowerPoint. Start with a blank canvas. #lrnchat
09:17:54 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @quinnovator: q3) design an experience for them, not just a ‘course’ #lrnchat // and that experience should lead to more learning opps.
09:17:59 pm criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat If your user will say “you’re making me work to make this work” it’s a clear sign it doesn’t work.
09:18:06 pm LnDDave: Q3) One of the most valuable things I ever did was anonymously watch someone take a course I built. VERY enlightening. #lrnchat
09:18:28 pm pmtrainer: I love to white-board RT @briandusablon: Q3) Dont start inside a rapid development tool or PowerPoint. Start with a blank canvas. #Lrnchat
09:18:46 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) Wish we could think less about lesson/module/topic and more about job/task/accomplishment #lrnchat
09:18:51 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat If your user will say “you’re making me work to make this work” it’s a clear sign it doesn’t work.
09:19:00 pm Quinnovator: RT @briandusablon: If only had 1 post tonight: Q3) Don’t start inside rapid development tool or PPT. Start with a blank canvas. #lrnchat
09:19:03 pm criticallearner: RT @lnddave: Q3) One of the most valuable things I ever did was anonymously watch someone take a course I built. VERY enlightening. #lrnchat
09:19:07 pm briandusablon: Heh. LMS vendors paying attention? RT @criticallearner: Q3> If users say “you’re making me work to make this work” it doesn’t work. #lrnchat
09:19:14 pm briandusablon: RT @LnDDave: Q3) One of the most valuable things I ever did was anonymously watch someone take a course I built. VERY enlightening. #lrnchat
09:19:44 pm Quinnovator: q3) excite their curiousity, incite their effort, reward their insight #lrnchat
09:19:52 pm criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat See what they use now, what they like. Align #noreinventingthewheel
09:19:57 pm LnDDave: RT @Quinnovator: q3) excite their curiousity, incite their effort, reward their insight #lrnchat
09:20:07 pm pmtrainer: RT @Quinnovator: q3) excite their curiousity, incite their effort, reward their insight #Lrnchat
09:20:15 pm minutebio: RT @LnDDave: 1 of most valuable things ever did ws anonymously watch sum1 take course I built. | Yes, but was tuff for me2 bite lip #lrnchat
09:20:21 pm TheAirton: Q3) No design is perfect. Take feedback, smile , and make better. Then say thanks. #lrnchat
09:20:34 pm Quinnovator: q3) find out what would make it ‘hard fun’ #lrnchat
09:20:36 pm kelly_smith01: Q3) On current job I keep binders of notes on scripts/activities/assessments – helps in development. #lrnchat
09:20:42 pm MaryRNeducator: RT @Quinnovator: q3) design an experience for them, not just a ‘course’ #lrnchat
09:20:51 pm markbrumley: Sample tech project rubric. New article. Share! http://t.co/mG6fXqSZ #lrnchat #teaching
09:20:57 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat See what they use now, what they like. Align #noreinventingthewheel // If it ain’t broke…
09:20:57 pm criticallearner: RT @Quinnovator: q3) excite their curiousity, incite their effort, reward their insight #Lrnchat > sounds like something Jobs would’ve said
09:21:05 pm briandusablon: It’s simple. Ask, & then listen. RT @TheAirton: Q3) No design is perfect. Take feedback, smile , and make better. Then say thanks. #lrnchat
09:21:10 pm criticallearner: RT @maryrneducator: RT @Quinnovator: q3) design an experience for them, not just a ‘course’ #lrnchat
09:21:49 pm TheAirton: Gold! RT @quinnovator: Reward Their Insight #lrnchat
09:21:49 pm Quinnovator: RT @TheAirton: Q3) No design is perfect. Take feedback, smile , and make better. Then say thanks. #lrnchat
09:22:05 pm lrnchat: Q4) How do you evaluate current learning systems? How do you incorporate feedback to continuously improve such systems? #lrnchat
09:22:16 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you evaluate current learning systems? How do you incorporate feedback to continuously improve such systems? #lrnchat
09:22:33 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How evaluate current learning systems? How incorporate feedback to continuously improve such systems? #lrnchat
09:22:36 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat Q3> and for “new directions” start yourself an inspiration file (smashing mag, etc.) but always test users’ reactions
09:22:38 pm pmtrainer: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you evaluate current learning systems? How do you incorporate feedback to continuously improve systems? #Lrnchat
09:23:02 pm MrsC_teach: RT @markbrumley: Sample tech project rubric. New article. Share! http://t.co/mG6fXqSZ #lrnchat #teaching
09:23:04 pm chet_stevenson: Q4) How do you evaluate current learning systems? How do you incorporate feedback to continuously improve such systems? #lrnchat
09:23:08 pm Quinnovator: q4) evaluate usability first, so not interfering. Then educational outcomes. Finally, evaluate engagement. Next: how to do *that* #lrnchat
09:23:33 pm kelly_smith01: Q4) How do you evaluate current learning systems? How do you incorporate feedback to continuously improve such systems? #lrnchat
09:24:00 pm Quinnovator: q4) evaluating engagement: it’s subjective, just *ask* them. #Lrnchat
09:24:04 pm criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Can they perform as expected? Better than previously? And that metric comes from the biz, not the training.
09:24:07 pm pmtrainer: Q4) contacting mgrs or supervisors to get feedback as to learning transfer to job. Has desired performance improved? #Lrnchat
09:24:19 pm chet_stevenson: Q4) I do a Usability study #lrnchat
09:24:30 pm KoreenOlbrish: Sorry I’ve gotta bow out…giving feedback on 22 game design documents is not easy to balance with the #lrnchat siren song ![]()
09:24:37 pm minutebio: RT @pmtrainer: Q4) contacting mgrs or supervisors to get feedback as to learning transfer to job. Has desired performance improved? #lrnchat
09:24:42 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: q4) evaluating engagement: it’s subjective, just *ask* them. #Lrnchat
09:24:44 pm briandusablon: Q4) 1) navigate to said learning system. 2) scream and cover eyes. 3) shoot computer. #lrnchat
09:24:56 pm Quinnovator: q4) Set metrics: a) better than a kick in the teeth, b) better than how done now, c) worth $$? eg we’ll take 3 out of 4 saying b) #lrnchat
09:25:13 pm chet_stevenson: Q4) Usability Study, then a Formative Assessment #lrnchat
09:25:19 pm kelly_smith01: RT @briandusablon: Q4) 1) navigate to said learning system. 2) scream and cover eyes. 3) shoot computer. #lrnchat
09:25:30 pm Quinnovator: RT @chet_stevenson: Q4) I do a Usability study #lrnchat < ftw!
09:26:09 pm Quinnovator: RT @pmtrainer: Q4) contacting mgrs or supervisors to get feedback as to learning transfer to job. Has desired performance improved? #Lrnchat
09:26:14 pm briandusablon: Q4) Seriously. Care. Caring leads to meaningful evaluation, assessment, structure. #lrnchat
09:26:26 pm TheAirton: Q4) P1] Surveys do nothing, look into end results. Did 3 move to 4 and so on. P2] Test, feedback, change. Rinse and repeat. #lrnchat
09:26:41 pm go2sali: RT @markbrumley: Sample tech project rubric. New article. Share! http://t.co/mG6fXqSZ #lrnchat #teaching
09:26:50 pm Quinnovator: @pmtrainer that’s penultimate test: leading to behavior change. Ultimate: leading to impact on biz metrics? #Lrnchat
09:26:51 pm briandusablon: Q4) Constant prototyping, usability testing, etc. Involve users – they will LOVE to be on your testing team. #lrnchat
09:27:00 pm criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat A/B testing and control groups work well (A/B for differing approaches).
09:27:05 pm minutebio: Q4) Software training – Call the help desk and make sure those calling r not the 1s who took your course… Hopefully #lrnchat
09:27:17 pm Quinnovator: @pmtrainer but that’s not evaluating engagement (tho’ next to most important measure) #Lrnchat
09:27:33 pm pmtrainer: Q4) there must be a marked change in behavior #Lrnchat
09:27:53 pm LnDDave: Q4) Speaking honestly? I’m like many who evaluate poorly because we’re pressured to move on to the next thing. #lrnchat
09:28:00 pm Ruthie_HB: Q4) Review usage and evaluate disparity, disconnects with learner. Re-examine systems and improve. #lrnchat
09:28:05 pm pmtrainer: Agreed RT @Quinnovator: @pmtrainer thats penultimate test: leading to behavior change. Ultimate: leading to impact on biz metrics? #Lrnchat
09:28:27 pm Quinnovator: @criticallearner actually, prefer to set criteria, and work ’til I achieve (tho if in doubt, A/B works) #lrnchat
09:28:36 pm minutebio: Q4) Call that Kirkpatrick guy. #lrnchat
09:28:53 pm kelly_smith01: Q4) Like usability “studies” with target audience at or very near demographic of learning audience. #lrnchat
09:28:53 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @lnddave: Q4) Speaking honestly? I’m like many who evaluate poorly because we’re pressured to move on to the next thing. #lrnchat
09:28:58 pm Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q4) Speaking honestly? like many who evaluate poorly because we’re pressured to move on to the next thing #lrnchat < sad/true
09:29:25 pm chet_stevenson: @4) Use the Success Case Method (SCM) to evaluate post roll-out #lrnchat
09:29:25 pm pmtrainer: He retired. You’d need to call Jr.
RT @minutebio: Q4) Call that Kirkpatrick guy. #Lrnchat
09:29:29 pm criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Related to @LnDDave ‘s comment: Also, if the tail wagging the dog metrics is “get the check in the box”, just do it, move on.
09:29:31 pm kelly_smith01: RT @LnDDave: Q4) Speaking honestly? I’m like many who evaluate poorly because we’re pressured to move on to the next thing. #lrnchat
09:29:37 pm ric9901: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
09:29:42 pm briandusablon: RT @Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q4) Speaking honestly? like many who evaluate poorly because we’re pressured to move on to the next thing #lrnchat < sad/true
09:30:28 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
09:30:30 pm criticallearner: RT @quinnovator actually, prefer to set criteria, and work ’til I achieve (tho if in doubt, A/B works) #lrnchat > Agree, A/B for cosmetics
09:30:48 pm sarcasticnem: RT @markbrumley Sample tech project rubric. New article. Share! bit.ly/qIoiOb #lrnchat #teaching #pwsd
09:30:50 pm briandusablon: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating training is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
09:30:50 pm criticallearner: RT @chet_stevenson: @4) Use the Success Case Method (SCM) to evaluate post roll-out #lrnchat
09:30:51 pm TheAirton: RT @minutebio: Q4) Call that Kirkpatrick guy. #lrnchat
09:30:54 pm chet_stevenson: RT @ric9901: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating training is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
09:31:06 pm MMTingley: Q4) We do pay very close attention to feedback, but we are not at the point of being able to test against performance. #lrnchat
09:31:18 pm briandusablon: @criticallearner Not just for cosmetics. Interaction types, interface, information mapping… #lrnchat
09:31:51 pm sarcasticnem: RT @sarcasticnem RT @markbrumley Sample tech project rubric. New article. Share! bit.ly/qIoiOb #lrnchat #teaching #cofp
09:32:18 pm pmtrainer: RT @MMTingley: Q4) We do pay very close attention to feedback, but we’re not at the pt of being able to test against performance. #Lrnchat
09:32:40 pm Quinnovator: @MMTingley um, then how do you know whether it’s actually making a *difference*? #lrnchat
09:33:15 pm ThisLilParent: The basics of #SEO and #blogging http://t.co/K3OEW1L5 #WAHM #SAHM #SAHD #webmarketing #mktg #internet #lrnchat #career #writing #articles
09:33:30 pm criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Here’s what I use for Level 1′s http://t.co/OesvkeVk
09:33:52 pm delta_dc: Yesterday’s post: Metacognitive Memoirs – what are they?
#edchat #mathchat #engchat #lrnchat #spnchat
09:34:10 pm pmtrainer: RT @criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Heres what I use for Level 1s http://t.co/rWuvnxbP #Lrnchat
09:34:18 pm Quinnovator: RT @criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Here’s what I use for Level 1′s http://t.co/kaaj5Sx6 < as long as it’s *all* flushed ![]()
09:34:39 pm briandusablon: @ThisLilParent Please don’t spam our little chat. Not cool. #lrnchat
09:35:07 pm criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Measure and remeasure. Also, remember Ebbinghaus/Medina. Skills will atrophy. Pulse “refreshers” and get new data/feedback.
09:35:18 pm TheAirton: LMAO Top 10 Tweet! Getting these out tomorrow. RT @criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Here’s what I use for Level 1′s http://t.co/BCYJSDlb
09:35:52 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Here’s what I use for Level 1′s http://t.co/XJJo042I < As they say K.I.S.S. ![]()
09:36:03 pm lrnchat: Q5) What tools do you use to design (not build) learning/performance support? What tools for A/B testing? Analytics? Prototyping? #lrnchat
09:36:17 pm minutebio: Q4) #lrnchat
09:36:25 pm MMTingley: @Quinnovator honestly we are doing well if people say they weren’t bored. #lrnchat
09:37:08 pm briandusablon: Posted earlier today > Q5) Why You Only Need to Test with 5 Users http://t.co/pE2PyEqv #lrnchat
09:37:11 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What tools do you use to design (not build) learning/performance support? What tools for A/B testing? Analytics? Prototyping? #lrnchat
09:37:37 pm criticallearner: RT @mmtingley: @Quinnovator honestly we are doing well if people say they weren’t bored. #lrnchat > Oy! (been there) Move them up the chain!
09:37:40 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What tools do u use 2 design (not build) learning/perfmance support? Tools -A/B testing? Analytics? Prototyp.. #lrnchat
09:37:51 pm Quinnovator: @ThisLilParent @delta_dc @knolinfos @markbrumley @sarcasticnem either participate or stay away, but don’t spam #lrnchat
09:38:04 pm TheAirton: Q5) Crayons and finger paint #lrnchat
09:38:06 pm briandusablon: Q5) @tomkuhlmann on usability: http://t.co/86XsJCuL #lrnchat
09:38:08 pm MMTingley: It’s a fairly new org – reaching beyond powerpoint is a big step up
#lrnchat
09:38:13 pm pmtrainer: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What tools do you use to design (not build) learning/performance support? for A/B testing? Analytics? Prototyping? #Lrnchat
09:38:42 pm Quinnovator: @MMTingley wrong metric. nice if they’re not bored, but how know it’s affecting business? #lrnchat < sympathetic, but…
09:38:50 pm criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat analytics + perf measures. Over and over. We see dips, we analyze to sharpen where support is needed. Refreshers. New measures.
09:39:11 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @theairton: Q5) Crayons and finger paint #lrnchat // Stick figures can express a lot!
09:39:12 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What tools to design (not build) learning/performance support? What tools for A/B testing? Analytics? Prototyping? #lrnchat
09:39:19 pm briandusablon: @MMTingley all the more reason you can have a big influence. New orgs are easiers to change than old ones. #lrnchat
09:39:53 pm briandusablon: Q5) http://t.co/3k0HU83x #lrnchat
09:40:18 pm MMTingley: Happily, yes > RT @briandusablon: @MMTingley all the more reason you can have a big influence. #lrnchat
09:40:43 pm briandusablon: Q5) My PLN. #lrnchat
09:41:44 pm Quinnovator: RT @MMTingley: Happily, yes > RT @briandusablon: @MMTingley all the more reason you can have a big influence. #lrnchat < yay!
09:41:51 pm TheAirton: Q5] White boards and arguments for design. Sample users. #lrnchat
09:41:57 pm apetroski: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
09:42:10 pm chet_stevenson: Q5) What tools do you use to design (not build) learning/performance support? What tools for A/B testing? Analytics? Prototyping? #lrnchat
09:42:25 pm criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Wireframes and basic prototypes. Let users chew them up. Post-deployment redesign info from usage (analytics) and biz results
09:42:40 pm marciamarcia: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” 1+ #lrnchat
09:42:48 pm Quinnovator: q5) use low-fi tools, diagramming (omnigraffle), MS office suite, Keynote. #Lrnchat
09:43:37 pm MMTingley: Q5) Best tool is digital recorder – people’s stories tell me the most. #lrnchat
09:43:38 pm briandusablon: Encourage the arguments! (but call them discussions)
RT @TheAirton: Q5] White boards and arguments for design. Sample users. #lrnchat
09:43:45 pm Quinnovator: q5) post-its, paper, whiteboards, flipcharts, html, keep prototyping investment low as long as possible #lrnchat
09:43:49 pm chet_stevenson: RT @Quinnovator: q5) use low-fi tools, diagramming (omnigraffle), MS office suite, Keynote. #lrnchat
09:43:52 pm Ruthie_HB: Q5) Would love to use quick-and-dirty pics depicting task/learning object etc. Better sense of learner experience. #lrnchat
09:43:56 pm criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Following the “Apple stuff just makes sense” route, I got some design kits for Apple style mockups- and, it just makes sense.
09:44:01 pm doctorjeff: SM DAILY NEWS: regarding SM, many districts follow ed path of least resistance, when in doubt ban it …. #edchat #lrnchat #gtchat
09:44:03 pm disneydad2: RT @briandusablon: Q1) They love it if they get just what they need, right when they need it. Complain about compliance training. Normal. #lrnchat
09:44:12 pm chet_stevenson: RT @Quinnovator: q5) post-its, paper, whiteboards, flipcharts, html, keep prototyping investment low as long as possible #lrnchat
09:44:51 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: q5) post-its, paper, whiteboards, flipcharts, html, keep prototyping investment low as long as possible #lrnchat
09:45:04 pm criticallearner: Q5) #lrnchat Best UX tool- use cases or scenarios from the field/business. Repackage and re-serve.
09:45:07 pm chet_stevenson: I agree with @Quinnovator – Prefer low-tech options. I prefer to put things on actual paper first. #lrnchat
09:45:12 pm disneydad2: RT @briandusablon: Q1) I’m pushing more performance support than training. 1) give users what they want. 2) don’t have to go through LMS to access. #lrnchat
09:45:14 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @quinnovator: q5) post-its, paper, whiteboards, flipcharts, html, keep prototyping investment low as long as possible #lrnchat
09:45:33 pm MMTingley: Thinking photo storyboard here RT @Ruthie_HB: Q5) Would love to use quick-and-dirty pics depicting task/learning object etc. #lrnchat
09:46:11 pm Quinnovator: RT @TheAirton: Q5] White boards and arguments for design. Sample users. #lrnchat
09:46:27 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @mmtingley: Thinking photo storyboard here RT @Ruthie_HB: Q5) Would love to use quick-and-dirty pics depicting task… #lrnchat // Yes!
09:46:38 pm Quinnovator: @doctorjeff if you’re not joining #lrnchat, kindly don’t post during the chat, ok?
09:46:55 pm kelly_smith01: I use my flow charting system which consists of a Big Chief Tablet and a couple of multicolored pends. #lrnchat
09:47:20 pm Quinnovator: apologies, but getting stroppy about the bloody spamming in #Lrnchat, please excuse the messages
09:48:06 pm MMTingley: @Quinnovator Stroppy? #lrnchat
09:48:20 pm criticallearner: Yeesh, #lrnchat looks like the kingdom of Spamalot tonight. Might have to get my uber-hacker security pro friends to send some things ![]()
09:49:29 pm Quinnovator: @MMTingley Aussie expression meaing sorta ‘grumpy’ (contamination from my 7 years down under) #lrnchat
09:49:35 pm odguru: RT @briandusablon: Encourage the arguments! (but call them discussions)
RT @TheAirton: Q5] White boards and arguments for design. Sample users. #lrnchat
09:49:40 pm TheAirton: New tool idea, thks RT @ruthie_hb: Q5) Would love to use quick-and-dirty pics depicting task/learning object etc.. #lrnchat
09:49:54 pm criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Because it’s accessible, I’ve even designed basic design flows in PPT for users to click thru for initial reactions.
09:50:03 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Please reintroduce yourself. Share links, requests & shameless plugs. #lrnchat
09:50:04 pm Quinnovator: @criticallearner if you’ve got those sort of friends, I’ve got another target or two…
#lrnchat
09:50:05 pm briandusablon: @Quinnovator I wouldn’t call it contamination.
#lrnchat
09:50:12 pm MMTingley: @Quinnovator Love it! #lrnchat
09:50:28 pm briandusablon: Dirty pics? Oh, wait. RT @TheAirton @ruthie_hb: Q5) Would love to use quick-and-dirty pics depicting task/learning object etc.. #lrnchat
09:50:43 pm chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Please reintroduce yourself. Share links, requests & shameless plugs. #lrnchat
09:51:00 pm odguru: RT @Quinnovator: q5) post-its, paper, whiteboards, flipcharts, html, keep prototyping investment low as long as possible #lrnchat
09:51:05 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Because it’s accessible, I’ve even designed basic design flows in PPT for users to click thru for…
09:51:10 pm briandusablon: @criticallearner Yes – show them the interaction flow. See if they follow. #lrnchat
09:51:33 pm chrisstjohn: Qwrap: Chris StJohn: Goverati @ DAU, the WalMart of Learning. Sunday Avatarian and supporter of the Rebel Alliance (usually) #lrnchat
09:51:33 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, enjoying an evening of social learning via a social media #lrnchat
09:52:20 pm chet_stevenson: chester stevenson, IPT Grad student at Boise State, One Stop Shop #lrnchat
09:52:38 pm TheAirton: LOL! RT @briandusablon: Dirty pics? Oh, wait. #lrnchat
09:52:39 pm writegrrl: RT @marciamarcia: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” 1+ #lrnchat
09:52:54 pm Ruthie_HB: @criticallearner Key! re: click thru for inital reactions, esp. if program is computer-based. user exp. diff. w/ mouse, keystrokes. #lrnchat
09:52:58 pm briandusablon: QWrap) I’m Brian Dusablon. I care about users. I’m talking about it at #DevLearn next week. http://t.co/apYcspu1 #lrnchat
09:53:12 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman – eLearning Designer in B’more. Hope to c many of u at #DevLearn next week. #lrnchat
09:53:15 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat wrap> http://t.co/HbFDGilH Shameless plug for the work @LnDDave (the cooler David) does with backchannels. Dave Glow, Tampa, FL
09:53:15 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, evil genius, consultant/author/speaker, genial malcontent, & learning experience design strategist extraordinaire #lrnchat
09:53:47 pm Quinnovator: amazed that it’s that time again, thanks for another wild and wooly #lrnchat to new and returning participants!
09:53:56 pm briandusablon: QWrap) Also, check out @emergentradio. @jkunrein and I drink beer. Oh, and we talk about usability, accessibility, tools, and more. #lrnchat
09:54:18 pm Ruthie_HB: Qwrap) Ruth here, always looking fwd to the next #lrnchat! Wish could join those live at #devlearn.
09:54:54 pm kelly_smith01: Thanks for the last 90 minutes #lrnchat
09:54:55 pm minutebio: @Quinnovator Only a little evil, right? #lrnchat
09:54:58 pm MMTingley: Melissa Tingley, eLearning ID, digital storyteller, and general eduGeek, Boston.
#lrnchat
09:55:04 pm Ruthie_HB: @briandusablon Lol. Not that type of “dirty”. #lrnchat
09:55:08 pm criticallearner: RT @briandusablon: check out @emergentradio. @jkunrein and I drink beer. Oh, and talk about usability, tools, and more. #lrnchat >gr8 stuff
09:55:21 pm TheAirton: Qwrap) Sith (low order) Airton, fun, non-user of speedos, and always fun learning from new and old tweeters in the #lrnchat
09:55:34 pm briandusablon: RT @criticallearner: #lrnchat wrap> http://t.co/HbFDGilH Shameless plug for the work @LnDDave (the cooler David) does with backchannels. Dave Glow, Tampa, FL
09:56:04 pm Ruthie_HB: RT @quinnovator: amazed that it’s that time again, thanks for another wild and wooly #lrnchat to new and returning participants!
09:56:30 pm Quinnovator: @minutebio depends. To sacred cows, entrenched myths, etc, I’m pretty evil; otherwise, no
#lrnchat (and not much of a genius either ![]()
09:57:01 pm briandusablon: QWrap) Remember the user, folks. It’s been fun. Thanks for the great dialogue. Cheers! #lrnchat
09:57:08 pm TheAirton: @mmtingley You tweeted it wrong, it’s Bahstun! Go Pats! Anything NY sucks! #lrnchat
09:58:08 pm marciamarcia: Marcia Conner, #lrnchat founder, travel’s been keeping me away for last few weeks. Look forward to next week here again. #lrnchat
09:58:20 pm Quinnovator: RT @briandusablon: check out @emergentradio..@jkunrein and I drink beer. And talk about usability, accessibility, tools, & more #lrnchat
09:58:52 pm minutebio: @Quinnovator Good 2 know
Hope 2 c you at devlearn. Have a g8 night. #lrnchat
09:59:02 pm lrnchat: Thanks for joining #lrnchat tonight. We’ll post the transcript on http://t.co/O8x38OGR See you from #DevLearn next Thursday!
10:00:16 pm randy_ramsey: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
10:00:17 pm MMTingley: @TheAirton Hmm, no Peyton to kick around this year – focus on Eli? #lrnchat
10:00:39 pm briandusablon: @minutebio find me, too, Jeff. Don’t think we’ve met in person. See you there! #lrnchat
10:00:42 pm minutebio: RT @briandusablon: Remember the user | Thought it was “Remember the Maine,” but this works 2 #lrnchat
10:01:19 pm TriciaRansom: UGH!!! I cannot believe that I missed #lrnchat tonight!!! Transcripts, here I come.
10:01:37 pm briandusablon: “Remember the Alamo” for me
RT @minutebio: RT @briandusablon: Remember the user | Thought it was “Remember the Maine” #lrnchat
10:01:57 pm marciamarcia: Participated in great #IBMsocbiz webinar today on social learning, not social training. All about learning as part of work. #joyous #lrnchat
10:02:11 pm minutebio: RT @briandusablon: find me, too, Jeff. Dont think weve met in person. See you there! | We hv not. Look fwd 2 mtg u. Safe travels #lrnchat
10:02:52 pm TheAirton: Beavis and Butthead is on brain is off. #lrnchat
10:04:15 pm briandusablon: @marciamarcia that sounds nice. Looking forward to learning more. #lrnchat
Transcript 27 October 2011 (early)
October 27, 201104:30:17 pm lrnchat: Welcome to #lrnchat! How have you been?
04:30:38 pm amirelion: RT @AndreaMay1: It’s almost time for #lrnchat. !Advance apologies for the volume of tweets in the next hour or so. Topic today: User Experience Design
04:31:08 pm lrnchat: If you’re new to #lrnchat, how it works is explained here: http://t.co/4Lr208H4
04:31:18 pm ThePrezenter: Hey #lrnchat I’ve been good thanks. Hi everyone
04:31:36 pm AndreaMay1: It’s been a good week…wrapping up a project that has been going for 1.5 years! #lrnchat
04:31:44 pm lesleywprice: RT @lrnchat: If youre new to #lrnchat, how it works is explained here: http://t.co/92gx1wKS #lrnchat
04:31:48 pm cellodav: RT @AndreaMay1: Its almost time for #lrnchat. !Advance apologies for the volume of tweets in the next hour or so. #lrnchat
04:32:08 pm lrnchat: Q0) Let’s get started w/ the #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself; where you’re from. What have you learned today/this week?
04:32:25 pm huiwana: RT @lrnchat: If you’re new to #lrnchat, how it works is explained here: http://t.co/4Lr208H4
04:32:26 pm lesleywprice: Its almost time for #lrnchat. !Advance apologies for the volume of tweets in the next hour or so. #lrnchat
04:32:41 pm amirelion: #lrnchat Busy week during which I learned quite a lot. ![]()
04:33:31 pm olliegardener: RT @lesleywprice: Its almost time for #lrnchat. !Advance apologies for the volume of tweets in the next hour or so. #lrnchat
04:34:07 pm cellodav: Q0) David Macdonald – Sudbury ON. Learned this week that “It gets better” is only part of the solution. Words require action. #lrnchat
04:34:10 pm OpenSesameNow: Hey #lrnchat! This is Kelly from the OpenSesame elearning marketplace in Portland, OR. Looking forward to chatting and also #DevLearn!
04:34:20 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q0) Let’s get started w/ the #lrnchat welcome: Introduce yourself; where you’re from. What have you learned today/this week?
04:34:26 pm ThePrezenter: #lrnchat In Bristol, UK. This week I’ve discovered Jing for quick screencasts. It’s awesome check it out http://t.co/arBlbwzE
04:34:39 pm JD_Dillon: Q0) JD from Orlando up in the #lrnchat … Learning how to turn an “office” into a functional, creative work space.
04:34:42 pm lesleywprice: q0) Lesley from Loughborough UK elearning has words that mean different things to different people http://t.co/htY9IVVn #lrnchat
04:35:34 pm NixTheNext: Q0) Good morning
Becky from Chicago, eLearning Dev’er, beyond psyched for #DevLearn! #lrnchat
04:35:41 pm amirelion: Amir Elion Director of Learning Solutions Kineo Israel. Learned this week of how a good conference can be a great learning platform #lrnchat
04:35:55 pm StephenCHudson: Today’s #lrnchat is on User Experience Design. Should be a good one!
04:36:11 pm huiwana: #lrnchat Q0)Huiwan, Singapore, e-learning, learnt abt the flood in Bangkok it’s not good. Please help pray for them
04:36:42 pm olliegardener: Hola #lrnchat! Cofounder of NoddlePod – a collaboration tool 4 people working and learning in parallel. #lrnchat
04:36:51 pm LeeMarkDavies: Hi, I’m Lee and this week I learned that no matter how often you go back, the Adelphi does not improve with age #nuszones #lrnchat
04:36:54 pm HollyJustice1: Q0) #Lrnchat Holly in Portland OR Job hunting daily! This week studied YouTube vs. http://t.co/Tmcuue3N. Videos seem key for portfolio.
04:36:57 pm npmaven: Debra Beck, adult educator, Wyoming: online instructor and professional development support of #nonprofits (esp. boards). #lrnchat
04:37:11 pm dbolen: Don Bolen, Atlanta, been playing with some online Agile PM tools and prepping for #DevLearn #lrnchat
04:37:28 pm AndreaMay1: Q0) Andrea May VP Inst. Desg Srvs @dashethomson in MN Learned this week I am glad to be done having kids! Welcome Lannister! #lrnchat
04:37:39 pm alc47: Q0 Nic Laycock SW England. Today I’ve learned I can do more than I think I can if i focus hard enough. Good to be here! #lrnchat
04:37:44 pm billcush: Q0) Morning all..Bill from Mountain View, CA. This weak I learned the more I learned about Sharepoint, the more my head aches. #lrnchat
04:38:25 pm AndreaMay1: RT @billcush: Q0) This week I learned the more I learned about Sharepoint, the more my head aches. #lrnchat <- I can sympathize with that!
04:38:33 pm JD_Dillon: @HollyJustice1 – Speaking of portfolios, I’m playing with different sharing options for my past presentations. Any suggestions? #lrnchat
04:38:35 pm lesleywprice: RT @billcush: Q0) This weak I learned the more I learned about Sharepoint, the more my head aches <deepest sympathy
#lrnchat
04:39:04 pm olliegardener: This week, I’ve learned that winter does arrive in Spain too and that windows are better left shut when it does. #lrnchat
04:39:04 pm JD_Dillon: @billcush – Amen on SharePoint headaches! #lrnchat
04:39:50 pm NixTheNext: Q0) this week I learned my co has a NICE CPE benefit; Looking for grad/certificate programs in ISD, resources welcome! #lrnchat
04:40:08 pm lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with the eLearning and/or performance support you create? #lrnchat
04:40:13 pm HollyJustice1: RT @lesleywprice: RT @lrnchat: If youre new to #lrnchat, how it works is explained here: http://t.co/92gx1wKS #lrnchat
04:40:29 pm LeeMarkDavies: thinks @shanechowen, @NickLinford, @PaulEeles, @IFL_Members, @dmetters, @AnnWalkerWEA, @WEAsouthern, etc should join #lrnchat
04:40:38 pm AndreaMay1: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with the eLearning and/or performance support you create? #lrnchat
04:40:41 pm huiwana: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with the eLearning and/or performance support you create? #lrnchat
04:40:58 pm billcush: @jd_dillon I guess there is a reason they sell 500-page books on Sharepoint. #lrnchat
04:41:00 pm lesleywprice: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with the eLearning and/or performance support you create? #lrnchat
04:41:04 pm npmaven: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with the eLearning and/or performance support you create? #lrnchat
04:41:32 pm ThePrezenter: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with the eLearning and/or performance support you create? #lrnchat
04:41:50 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with the eLearning and/or performance support you create? #lrnchat
04:42:06 pm lesleywprice: q1) a lot depends on whether they can see the benefits #WIIFM #lrnchat
04:42:13 pm LeeMarkDavies: “@lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with the eLearning and/or performance support you create? #lrnchat” – now in English?
04:42:20 pm npmaven: Q1) Noticing shift in #nonprofit audiences: less hesitation to consider e-learning as option than in past. Not full embrace, but… #lrnchat
04:42:25 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) Right now, between tech issues and lack of intuitive interface, not very good. #lrnchat
04:42:36 pm aaronesilvers: RT @JD_Dillon: Q1) Right now, between tech issues and lack of intuitive interface, not very good. #lrnchat
04:42:42 pm alc47: Q1 Most learners do not see elearning as performance support – just boring stuff they are forced to do with no link to workplace #lrnchat
04:42:52 pm billcush: Q1) When I just send out a link via email, people love it…when I tell them to search for it in the LMS, they say, “huh?” #lrnchat
04:43:00 pm npmaven: Can’t underestimate this! RT @lesleywprice: q1) a lot depends on whether they can see the benefits #WIIFM #lrnchat
04:43:19 pm aaronesilvers: @JD_Dillon If you can, share more about the lack of an intuitive interface, please! #lrnchat
04:43:20 pm amirelion: Q1) Many learners have high expectations these days from interface and design. #lrnchat
04:43:28 pm billcush: Yep! RT @alc47: Q1 Most learners do not see elearning as performance support – just boring stuff they are forced to do… #lrnchat
04:43:30 pm AndreaMay1: Q1) I think it varies learner to learner and client to client. The whole gamut of excellent to really annoyed. #lrnchat
04:43:31 pm aaronesilvers: RT @amirelion: Q1) Many learners have high expectations these days from interface and design. #lrnchat
04:43:32 pm chrisstjohn: Chris StJohn: Goverati, DAU (the WalMart of Learning), Empowering Tech Herder, thumbing a nose at 100s of yrs of educ tradition. #lrnchat
04:43:34 pm lesleywprice: RT @alc47: Q1 just boring stuff they are forced to do with no link to workplace < exactly no #WIIFM #lrnchat
04:43:59 pm ThePrezenter: Q1) Most of the audience have been in the workforce for over 20 years and arent tech savvy. The newness of it all scares them #lrnchat
04:44:33 pm aaronesilvers: @alc47 Is that the content or its interface? #lrnchat
04:44:37 pm lesleywprice: RT @amirelion: Q1) Many learners have high expectations these days from interface and design. #lrnchat
04:44:53 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) The best video games don’t require deep instructions or user manuals. Unfortunately, many eLearnings do. #lrnchat
04:45:10 pm aaronesilvers: @ThePrezenter eLearning has been around in one form or another for the last 15 years. What’s new? #lrnchat
04:45:15 pm dbolen: Q1 will vary depending upon the content – compliance and “mandatory” generally loathed #lrnchat
04:45:18 pm AndreaMay1: RT @amirelion: Q1)Many learners have high expectations from interface and design #lrnchat <-Yes, but orgs don’t necessarily have the same.
04:45:38 pm NixTheNext: Q1) I don’t think I have enough access to my learner to really know how they feel about my CBT interface. #lrnchat
04:45:39 pm amirelion: Q1) …however not many have has a good experience with UX design #lrnchat
04:45:52 pm cellodav: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with the eLearning and/or performance support you create? #lrnchat
04:45:54 pm NixTheNext: Q1) I know how they feel about the LMS though
#lrnchat
04:46:00 pm aaronesilvers: @AndreaMay1 Why don’t orgs have high expectations about interface design? #lrnchat
04:46:04 pm alc47: RT @aaronesilvers: @alc47 Is that the content or its interface? Content, interface and especially image of elearning #lrnchat
04:46:24 pm lesleywprice: RT @JD_Dillon: Q1) The best video games dont instructions/user manuals. Unfortunately, many eLearnings do.< people don’t read them #lrnchat
04:46:43 pm briandusablon: Exactly. RT @NixTheNext: Q1) I know how they feel about the LMS though
#lrnchat
04:46:55 pm aaronesilvers: @lesleywprice Why don’t people read the instruction manuals that come with the eLearning? #lrnchat
04:46:57 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q1) How do learners feel about interfacing with the eLearning and/or performance support you create? #lrnchat
04:47:14 pm aaronesilvers: You should know, friends, that I’m going to ask “why” a lot. #lrnchat
04:47:28 pm ThePrezenter: @aaronesilvers For my particular audience it’s new to them. Hence the scariness of it all #lrnchat
04:47:35 pm briandusablon: Q1) It’s tough when getting to the content is a complete pain in the ass. I keep it out of the LMS unless it’s required. #lrnchat
04:47:38 pm LnDDave: Greetings #lrnchat! David Kelly from NYC, popping in for a bit of the early discussion.
04:47:38 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) Designers need to understand the audience in order to properly define intuitive interface. #lrnchat
04:47:46 pm cellodav: Q1) as long as the content is up to date and easily found, they don’t care much about the UI #lrnchat
04:47:57 pm AndreaMay1: @aaronesilvers When I see this, it’s about budget and timeline…making the interface anything but functional is low on the list #lrnchat
04:48:04 pm briandusablon: He means it. RT @aaronesilvers: You should know, friends, that Im going to ask “why” a lot. #lrnchat
04:48:17 pm aaronesilvers: @cellodav Who’s your audience, if you don’t mind sharing? #lrnchat
04:48:19 pm NixTheNext: @aaronesilvers: @lesleywprice IMHO- you shouldn’t have to train how to use training; The UI should be intuitive w/o instructions. #lrnchat
04:48:29 pm aaronesilvers: @briandusablon Why do I mean it?
#lrnchat
04:48:32 pm ThePrezenter: RT @JD_Dillon: Q1) Designers need to understand the audience in order to properly define intuitive interface. #lrnchat
04:48:38 pm OpenSesameNow: @aaronesilvers We should make an instruction manual for the instruction manual for the instruction manual… #lrnchat
04:48:43 pm gillian_white: if it needs instructions, chances are it’s poorly designed #lrnchat
04:48:44 pm AndreaMay1: RT @aaronesilvers: You should know, friends, that I’m going to ask “why” a lot. #lrnchat <-Best way to learn!
04:48:47 pm aaronesilvers: RT @NixTheNext: @aaronesilvers: @lesleywprice IMHO- you shouldn’t have to train how to use training; The UI should be intuitive w/o instructions. #lrnchat
04:48:56 pm aaronesilvers: RT @OpenSesameNow: @aaronesilvers We should make an instruction manual for the instruction manual for the instruction manual… #lrnchat
04:49:01 pm ruzuku: Howdy #lrnchat! Abe from http://t.co/zauXPK2B here. I’m a UX researcher and designer with a strong interest in online learning.
04:49:01 pm aaronesilvers: RT @gillian_white: if it needs instructions, chances are it’s poorly designed #lrnchat
04:49:06 pm cellodav: @aaronesilvers good Q – undergrad university students #lrnchat
04:49:11 pm lesleywprice: RT @NixTheNext: @aaronesilvers: @lesleywprice ; The UI should be intuitive w/o instructions < exactly
#lrnchat
04:49:26 pm NixTheNext: RT @aaronesilvers: RT @gillian_white: if it needs instructions, chances are its poorly designed #lrnchat
04:49:31 pm lesleywprice: RT @gillian_white: if it needs instructions, chances are its poorly designed #lrnchat
04:49:31 pm alc47: RT @aaronesilvers: @lesleywprice Why dont people read manuals with the eLearning?>cos they are boring and not intuitive #lrnchat
04:49:35 pm olliegardener: q1) Our experience: users expect and love gr8t interface & design – orgs need it to integrate with SAP, but r unsure why #lrnchat
04:49:36 pm aaronesilvers: RT @briandusablon: Q1) It’s tough when getting to the content is a complete pain in the ass. I keep it out of the LMS unless it’s required. #lrnchat
04:49:46 pm briandusablon: RT @NixTheNext @aaronesilvers @lesleywprice shouldnt have to train how to use training; UI should be intuitive w/o instructions. #lrnchat
04:49:48 pm LnDDave: Q1) When learners complain about ‘having to take the training’ ,we own that as designers. #lrnchat
04:49:52 pm cellodav: Q1) interface usually only becomes an issue when it gets in the way of learning and content #lrnchat
04:50:05 pm alc47: RT @aaronesilvers: RT @gillian_white: if it needs instructions, chances are its poorly designed>exactly and treat people as idiots #lrnchat
04:50:11 pm cellodav: RT @LnDDave: Q1) When learners complain about having to take the training ,we own that as designers. #lrnchat
04:50:11 pm billcush: @cellodav So the UI is great when no one says anything about it. It’s that good. #lrnchat
04:50:11 pm olliegardener: RT @lesleywprice: RT @gillian_white: if it needs instructions, chances are its poorly designed #lrnchat
04:50:12 pm lesleywprice: RT @LnDDave: Q1) When learners complain about having to take the training ,we own that as designers. #lrnchat
04:50:14 pm NixTheNext: RT @LnDDave: Q1) When learners complain about having to take the training ,we own that as designers. #lrnchat
04:50:22 pm milindpansare: Top 10 Social Media Skills webinar http://t.co/FyNyvhYi #e20 #astd #elearning #lrnchat #socbiz #sabasoftware
04:50:38 pm aaronesilvers: @ThePrezenter I’m very curious about who your audience is that eLearning is still new. Not doubting you. Just interested. #lrnchat
04:50:39 pm ruzuku: This week, I learned about structures and techniques for creating ‘mastermind’ or peer-coaching groups. #lrnchat
04:50:54 pm AndrewJacobsLD: Q1 Fearful, expectant, bored. Depends on their previous experience and learning history. #lrnchat
04:50:58 pm CatMoore: RT @LnDDave: Q1) When learners complain about having to take the training, we own that as designers. #lrnchat
04:51:14 pm HollyJustice1: Q1) #lrnchat Newcomers expect passive and boring, want the classroom back. Experienced e-learners expect to learn efficiently, actively.
04:51:14 pm NixTheNext: RT @billcush: @cellodav So UI is great when no one says anything about it.< yep, but makes it touch to know what aspects work/don’t #lrnchat
04:51:21 pm JD_Dillon: RT @CatMoore: RT @LnDDave: Q1) When learners complain about having to take the training, we own that as designers. #lrnchat
04:51:23 pm LnDDave: Q1) When was the last time you heard someone complain about the iphone interface? It just makes sense. Why can’t eLearning? #lrnchat
04:51:32 pm ruzuku: Also this week, learned about the importance of self-care and renewal in teaching, via @jenlouden and #TeachNow. #lrnchat
04:51:41 pm ThePrezenter: Q1) I believe the next wave of workforce wont have any of the issues that most of todays workforce does. #lrnchat
04:51:42 pm cellodav: @billcush it might not be Grrrreat! but it’s at least good #lrnchat
04:51:51 pm chrisstjohn: Q1) Our learners have high expectations on GUI. We deliver over 12.5Million hrs seat time last year. Single sign on is a must #lrnchat
04:51:57 pm billcush: Q1) Part of the learning experience is that managers can create an experience that training is mandatory instead of voluntary. #lrnchat
04:52:03 pm OpenSesameNow: RT @lnddave: Q1) When was the last time you heard someone complain abt iphone interface? It just makes sense. Why can’t eLearning? #lrnchat
04:52:11 pm JD_Dillon: RT @LnDDave: Q1) When was the last time you heard someone complain about the iphone interface? It just makes sense. Why can’t eLearning? #lrnchat
04:52:20 pm aaronesilvers: @milindpansare Please do us a favor and contribute to a #lrnchat or refrain from spamming. We don’t puke in the middle of your webinars.
04:52:26 pm AndrewJacobsLD: RT @HollyJustice1: Q1) #lrnchat Newcomers expect passive and boring, want the classroom back. Experienced e-learners expect to learn efficiently, actively.
04:52:32 pm NixTheNext: @billcush managers?! they’re involved in training?? #lrnchat
04:52:37 pm AndreaMay1: RT @LnDDave: Q1) When have you heard someone complain about the iphone interface? It makes sense. Why can’t eLearning? #lrnchat <It should!
04:52:48 pm cellodav: RT @chrisstjohn: Q1) … Single sign on is a must > amen! #lrnchat
04:53:03 pm ruzuku: Q1) We often find it difficult to get good, in-depth understanding of how our learners are feeling and performing online… #lrnchat
04:53:07 pm amirelion: Q1) LMS UX does not have to be user unfriendly. #lrnchat
04:53:07 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) The interface/design should not be part of the learning experience but rather facilitate learning. #lrnchat
04:53:08 pm lesleywprice: RT @ThePrezenter: Q1) next wave of workforce wont have issues that todays workforce does < If design is bad reaction will be worse #lrnchat
04:53:55 pm ruzuku: Q1) … (cont’d) … we’re considering conducting usability studies with new learners, as well as observing ongoing courses. #lrnchat
04:54:17 pm cellodav: Q1) users don’t always know what is good or better, but they sure know what isn’t #lrnchat
04:54:21 pm dainadunlop: Hello everyone #lrnchat
04:54:24 pm billcush: No.They just make it mandatory for you. You need to be fixed, not them. RT @nixthenext: @billcush managers?! involved in training?? #lrnchat
04:54:31 pm lrnchat: Q2) How do you design for the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
04:54:32 pm cellodav: RT @JD_Dillon: Q1) The interface/design should not be part of the learning experience but rather facilitate learning. #lrnchat
04:54:34 pm LnDDave: Q1) If the first module a new user needs to complete is “How to use the interface”, you’re already behind. #lrnchat
04:54:41 pm NixTheNext: RT @cellodav: Q1) users dont always know what is good or better, but they sure know what isnt #lrnchat
04:54:43 pm amirelion: RT @billcush: @cellodav So the UI is great when no one says anything about it. It’s that good. #lrnchat
04:54:43 pm briandusablon: That depends. RT @JD_Dillon: Q1) The interface/design should not be part of the learning experience but rather facilitate learning. #lrnchat
04:54:53 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) If your audience is demographically diverse (ages, languages, tech skills), it must be reflecting in interface design. #lrnchat
04:54:57 pm HollyJustice1: RT @JD Dillon
Q1) The interface/design should not be part of the learning experience but rather facilitate learning. #lrnchat
04:55:04 pm NixTheNext: RT @LnDDave: Q1) If the first module a new user needs to complete is “How to use the interface”, youre already behind. #lrnchat
04:55:07 pm briandusablon: Indeed. RT @cellodav: Q1) users dont always know what is good or better, but they sure know what isnt #lrnchat
04:55:08 pm aaronesilvers: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design for the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
04:55:38 pm briandusablon: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design for the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
04:55:38 pm ruzuku: RT @HollyJustice1: Q1) #lrnchat Newcomers expect passive and boring, want the classroom back. Experienced e-learners expect to learn efficiently, actively.
04:55:42 pm AndreaMay1: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design for the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
04:55:43 pm olliegardener: RT @aaronesilvers: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design for the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
04:55:50 pm ThePrezenter: RT @lesleywprice @ThePrezenter: design is bad reaction will be worse – Agree with that, but by then they’ll be building the stuff! #lrnchat
04:55:53 pm lesleywprice: q1) designers have to learn that like in the classroom one size does not fit all #lrnchat
04:56:09 pm lesleywprice: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design for the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
04:56:10 pm CapAnalytics: Q2) Who is your audience? The learners? Their managers who send them to take the training? The business leaders calling for it? #lrnchat
04:56:13 pm cellodav: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design for the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
04:56:18 pm LnDDave: Q2) Well, it would help if we asked for feedback Before or During design, rather than after implementation. #lrnchat
04:56:28 pm ThePrezenter: RT @LnDDave: Q1) If the first module a new user needs to complete is “How to use the interface”, you’re already behind. #lrnchat
04:56:30 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) Ask the audience. Get a basic understanding of their wants/needs/likes regarding content design. Then, match to biz need. #lrnchat
04:56:32 pm dbolen: Q2 test the UI with real users #lrnchat
04:56:41 pm aaronesilvers: @gillian_white I am really really tired of vendors spamming #lrnchat.
04:56:43 pm dainadunlop: Q2) I start with a lot of discussion about what the needs and wants mean to them and why they need/want them #lrnchat
04:56:44 pm briandusablon: Q2) Start by learning about your audience. Too many times that is skipped. #lrnchat
04:56:51 pm NixTheNext: Q2) Before I start any new CBT, I review level 2 surveys from other CBTs I’ve done. Steal what worked, drop or improve what didn’t. #lrnchat
04:56:54 pm aaronesilvers: RT @briandusablon: Q2) Start by learning about your audience. Too many times that is skipped. #lrnchat
04:56:56 pm amirelion: Q2) a. Try to connect the content with the design. #lrnchat
04:56:57 pm lesleywprice: RT @LnDDave: Q2) Well, it would help if we asked for feedback Before or During design, rather than after implementation. #lrnchat
04:57:17 pm lesleywprice: RT @aaronesilvers: @gillian_white I am really really tired of vendors spamming #lrnchat. Agreed!! #lrnchat
04:57:17 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) As @LnDDave points out, use reliable audience members to test your content during development/UAT, not just implementation. #lrnchat
04:57:18 pm CatMoore: Instead of leaving users out of process til end, try usability testing at beginning. Or maybe http://t.co/z6lYMNGA #lrnchat
04:57:30 pm edCetraT: Q2) Consider the topic and leverage the real estate
#lrnchat
04:57:34 pm AndreaMay1: Q2)Have to start with thorough audience analysis and get to the user groups if you can, not just the managers or PMO #lrnchat
04:57:35 pm ruzuku: RT @lrnchat: Q2) How do you design for the needs and wants of your audience? #lrnchat
04:57:38 pm CatMoore: RT @briandusablon: Q2) Start by learning about your audience. Too many times that is skipped. #lrnchat
04:57:40 pm cellodav: RT @LnDDave: Q2) …if we asked for feedback Before or During design, rather than after implementation. > from expert learners too #lrnchat
04:58:23 pm HollyJustice1: Q2) Design for needs and wants by 1) consider output options 2) ask them. Sales, IT developer, cust. support = all different needs. #lrnchat
04:58:30 pm LnDDave: @ruzuku Nothing stops you from asking people for feedback earlier, and yet it is often skipped. #lrnchat
04:58:33 pm briandusablon: Q2) Have you done anything for this audience before? What was feedback then? What worked, didn’t work? #lrnchat
04:58:37 pm RamonaMata: A2: create for all learners. Include content that accommodates each style #lrnchat
04:58:38 pm oxala75: Q2) user testing, user testing, user testing. And then we test some users. #lrnchat
04:58:40 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) And … every project plan must include post review of measurement to determine what did(n’t) work for next time. #lrnchat
04:58:54 pm aaronesilvers: RT @briandusablon: Q2) Have you done anything for this audience before? What was feedback then? What worked, didn’t work? #lrnchat
04:59:01 pm lesleywprice: q2) think about what behaviour change you want to happen and reason why its not happening at the moment #lrnchat
04:59:06 pm LnDDave: RT @oxala75: Q2) user testing, user testing, user testing. And then we test some users. #lrnchat
04:59:13 pm NixTheNext: Q2) My babysitter has prob taken more of my CBTs than the average emp at my co! She’s my UAT tester
#lrnchat
04:59:13 pm briandusablon: Q2) prototype. prototype. prototype. And A/B testing… #lrnchat
04:59:26 pm briandusablon: RT @oxala75: Q2) user testing, user testing, user testing. And then we test some users. #lrnchat
04:59:27 pm HollyJustice1: RT @AndreaMay1: Q2)Have to start with thorough audience analysis and get to the user groups if you can, not just the managers or PMO #lrnchat
04:59:29 pm olliegardener: q2) Make sure “designing for” is the right approach. Assisting them assist each other can often be quicker & more flexible approach #lrnchat
04:59:29 pm amirelion: Q2) Show your clients mockups early and have them comment on design as well as content. #lrnchat
04:59:31 pm dbolen: RT @oxala75: Q2) user testing, user testing, user testing. And then we test some users. #lrnchat
04:59:36 pm AndrewJacobsLD: Q2 Too often the sponsor doesn’t know what they need and we design to want. Satisfied sponsors and dis-satisfied learners #lrnchat
04:59:39 pm briandusablon: Nice! RT @NixTheNext: Q2) My babysitter has prob taken more of my CBTs than the average emp at my co! Shes my UAT tester
#lrnchat
04:59:40 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) UAT must include a range of learners, both the exceptional and challenging employees. #lrnchat
04:59:47 pm StephenCHudson: Q2) Design based on previous experience with liked e-learning, create several mock-ups, buy-in and discussions before development #lrnchat
04:59:53 pm ruzuku: Q2) Being thoughtful about the audience for a course: their needs, goals, motivations – language & concepts they use. Learners 1st. #lrnchat
04:59:58 pm LnDDave: Q2) Assume that we DON’T know everything for a change.
#lrnchat
05:00:03 pm ThePrezenter: Q2) By getting the aims and objectives of my learning spot on from the start, and focusing on them throughout #lrnchat
05:00:04 pm briandusablon: @oxala75 and I think alike.
#lrnchat
05:00:09 pm SharonWingron: RT @LnDDave: Q1) When was the last time you heard someone complain about the iphone interface? It just makes sense. Why can’t eLearning? #lrnchat
05:00:26 pm olliegardener: RT @LnDDave: Q2) Assume that we DONT know everything for a change.
#lrnchat
05:00:26 pm gillian_white: RT @oxala75: Q2) user testing, user testing, user testing. And then we test some users. #lrnchat
05:00:31 pm lesleywprice: q2) language is soooo important #lrnchat
05:00:40 pm oxala75: RT @CatMoore: Instead of leaving users out of process til end, try usability testing at beginning. Or maybe http://t.co/z6lYMNGA #lrnchat
05:00:50 pm briandusablon: Ah, but be careful. Don’t assume they’re idiots, either. RT @LnDDave: Q2) Assume that we DONT know everything for a change.
#lrnchat
05:00:52 pm NixTheNext: RT @ThePrezenter: Q2) get the aims/objectives of my learning spot on from the start, and focusing on them throughout <SO important! #lrnchat
05:01:00 pm dainadunlop: Q2) Being able to design for needs/wants starts with understanding what is meant by those needs/wants and why they’re important #lrnchat
05:01:16 pm ruzuku: Q2) … (con’td) … Ideally, we’d like to ground our user analysis even more rigorously in research (e.g. in-depth interviews). #lrnchat
05:01:17 pm LnDDave: @briandusablon Wait… they’re not? #lrnchat
05:01:22 pm AndrewJacobsLD: RT @olliegardener: q2) Make sure “designing for” is the right approach. Assisting them assist each other can often be quicker & more flexible approach #lrnchat
05:01:27 pm CapAnalytics: .@JD_Dillon yes definitely measure to see what didn’t work and improve next time. Also go beyond learners themselves for feedback. #lrnchat
05:01:31 pm lesleywprice: q2) to assume makes an ‘ass’ out of ‘u’ and ‘me’ #lrnchat
05:01:38 pm briandusablon: Good resource. RT @oxala75: RT @CatMoore: Try usability testing at beginning. Or maybe http://t.co/3k0HU83x #lrnchat
05:01:46 pm HollyJustice1: @CatMoore #lrnchat Agreed – usability testing is always good. My hubby is my tester = general public. Thanks 4 tip on http://t.co/i4gePCRt.
05:01:47 pm aaronesilvers: RT @briandusablon: Good resource. RT @oxala75: RT @CatMoore: Try usability testing at beginning. Or maybe http://t.co/3k0HU83x #lrnchat
05:01:54 pm oxala75: the heavy responsibility of great minds. RT @briandusablon @oxala75 and I think alike.
#lrnchat
05:02:08 pm briandusablon: @LnDDave re: Q2) goes back to knowing your audience. Some might be. Some not. #lrnchat
05:02:18 pm olliegardener: q2) let them speak first. Asking for feedback and you’ve just forced them into your mode of thinking #lrnchat
05:02:35 pm eyiceyic: RT @HollyJustice1 @CatMoore #lrnchat Agreed – usability testing is always good. My hubby is my tester = general… http://t.co/BDJ4rxJ8
05:02:45 pm SharonWingron: online or F2F, SMEs need facilitation skills & facilitation skills are required for successful learning transfer #astdstl #lrnchat #lrn_stl
05:03:02 pm briandusablon: @oxala75 Pushing up the industry is good honest work, eh? #lrnchat
05:03:12 pm AndreaMay1: RT @oxala75: Q2)User testing, then we test some users. #lrnchat <My experience, clients do UAT on systems, not on training programs. Sigh.
05:03:13 pm RamonaMata: Q2: know your audience. Accommodate diff learning styles. Focus on the obj #lrnchat
05:03:18 pm briandusablon: Good idea! RT @olliegardener: q2) let them speak first. Asking for feedback and youve just forced them into your mode of thinking #lrnchat
05:04:05 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) Sometimes people outside the audience are great testers. The content should be THAT easy to use. Shouldn’t need to know more. #lrnchat
05:04:14 pm briandusablon: Q2) First step: care. #lrnchat
05:04:28 pm HollyJustice1: RT @ruzuku: Q2) Being thoughtful about the audience for a course: their needs, goals, motivations – language & concepts they use. Learners 1st. #lrnchat
05:04:32 pm gillian_white: RT @olliegardener q2) let them speak first. Asking for feedback and you’ve just forced them into your mode of thinking #lrnchat < SO true!!
05:04:34 pm lesleywprice: q2) test alternatives as sometimes people don’t know what they want until they try different things bit like trying on clothes
#lrnchat
05:04:48 pm JD_Dillon: RT @briandusablon: Q2) First step: care. #lrnchat
05:04:55 pm AndreaMay1: RT @briandusablon: Q2) First step: care. #lrnchat <–AMEN!
05:04:55 pm ruzuku: @briandusablon Curious, how do you employ A/B testing in the context of learning? #lrnchat
05:04:57 pm OpenSesameNow: .@sparkandco made a good point- as developers, we’re usability testers for content from SMEs. Up to us to push for coherent info. #lrnchat
05:05:07 pm ruzuku: RT @lesleywprice: q2) think about what behaviour change you want to happen and reason why its not happening at the moment #lrnchat
05:05:14 pm aaronesilvers: RT @OpenSesameNow: .@sparkandco made a good point- as developers, we’re usability testers for content from SMEs. Up to us to push for coherent info. #lrnchat
05:05:17 pm ruzuku: RT @oxala75: Q2) user testing, user testing, user testing. And then we test some users. #lrnchat
05:05:23 pm oxala75: lol….but yeah. RT @briandusablon Q2) First step: care. #lrnchat
05:05:32 pm RamonaMata: RT @AndreaMay1: RT @briandusablon: Q2) First step: care. #lrnchat <–AMEN! #lrnchat
05:06:17 pm ruzuku: @CatMoore Curious how would you use http://t.co/M0nbezq3 early in a design process? #lrnchat
05:06:25 pm aaronesilvers: RT @briandusablon: Q2) First step: care. #lrnchat
05:06:43 pm briandusablon: @ruzuku you can build multiple prototypes to see which one users prefer. Characters, interface, interaction styles, etc. #lrnchat
05:07:15 pm CatMoore: @ruzuku Usability testing early on to test the prototypes–activities and interface #lrnchat
05:07:18 pm briandusablon: @oxala75 sad how often that’s not the case. I know we all have to churn stuff out, but a lot of folks just don’t care enough. #lrnchat
05:07:48 pm CatMoore: Often we skip doing prototypes, or we don’t include learners in the development & testing of prototypes #lrnchat
05:07:51 pm lesleywprice: RT @briandusablon @ruzuku you can build multiple prototypes to see which one users prefer < give alternatives #lrnchat
05:08:01 pm HollyJustice1: @briandusablon @NixTheNext RT Q2) My babysitter … Shes my UAT tester
Funny and true! I use my impatient hubby for testing. #lrnchat
05:08:20 pm RamonaMata: Q2: work w a SME and then make it interesting lol #lrnchat
05:08:27 pm gillian_white: @lesleywprice “sometimes people don’t know what they want” < yes! and Apple knows this fact inside out- they tell US what we want #lrnchat
05:08:34 pm lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the natural tendency to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
05:08:38 pm erikapaezv: RT @CatMoore: Often we skip doing prototypes, or we don’t include learners in the development & testing of prototypes #lrnchat
05:09:02 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the natural tendency to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
05:09:11 pm amirelion: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the natural tendency to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
05:09:15 pm OpenSesameNow: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the natural tendency to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
05:09:30 pm lesleywprice: RT @gillian_white “sometimes people dont know what they want” < yes! and Apple knows this fact inside out- so do Microsoft! #lrnchat
05:09:32 pm olliegardener: q2) Be open for different solutions, digg deeper, listen actively. Sometimes the true problem isn’t according to plan.. #lrnchat
05:09:33 pm dbolen: RT @CatMoore: Often we skip doing prototypes, or we dont include learners in the development & testing of prototypes #lrnchat
05:09:36 pm cellodav: @briandusablon @ruzuku multiple prototypes are expensive in terms of personnel for small outfits (I’m a dept of 0.8) #lrnchat
05:09:45 pm lesleywprice: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the natural tendency to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
05:09:48 pm briandusablon: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the natural tendency to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
05:09:55 pm RamonaMata: RT @RamonaMata: Q2 and Q3: work w a SME and then make it interesting lol #lrnchat
05:09:56 pm AndreaMay1: RT @CatMoore: Often we skip prototypes, or don’t include learners in the dev. & testing #lrnchat <True, wish clients would build into plan
05:10:08 pm edCetraT: @briandusablon @reubentozman (side note.. i like your logo for #devlearn motorcyle mayhem… it’s cute #lrnchat
05:10:17 pm oxala75: @briandusablon it’s especially easy to not care when you allow urself to be divorced from the user workflow. #lrnchat
05:10:18 pm LnDDave: Q3) I love to take other’s elearning with my designer hat on – see what they did and why they did it. It expands my ideas. #lrnchat
05:10:21 pm cellodav: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the natural tendency to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
05:10:22 pm amirelion: Q3) Train yourself to listen #lrnchat
05:10:24 pm HollyJustice1: RT @lesleywprice: q2) test alternatives as sometimes people don’t know what they want until they try different things bit like trying on clothes
#lrnchat
05:10:24 pm AndreaMay1: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the natural tendency to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
05:10:28 pm briandusablon: @cellodav prototypes don’t have to be elaborate. #lrnchat
05:10:38 pm ruzuku: Q3) Design should be grounded in empathy for our learners. Build empathy through direct engagement & reflective listening. #lrnchat
05:10:47 pm AndrewJacobsLD: Q3 Design what I don’t like, review with SME and users, agree changes to improve. #lrnchat
05:10:59 pm AndrewJacobsLD: RT @LnDDave: Q3) I love to take other’s elearning with my designer hat on – see what they did and why they did it. It expands my ideas. #lrnchat
05:11:03 pm techherding: Showing up late, as usual, I’m Dick Carlson. Owned by 3 pugs in Sunny South Carolina. Builder of amazing learning, TechHerding.com #lrnchat
05:11:12 pm briandusablon: Yes. RT @oxala75: @briandusablon its especially easy to not care when you allow urself to be divorced from the user workflow. #lrnchat
05:11:15 pm lesleywprice: q3) no different from delivering F2F take one step back #lrnchat
05:11:20 pm gillian_white: Q3: by repeating “curse of knowledge, curse of knowledge” without pause while designing
#lrnchat
05:11:21 pm AndreaMay1: RT @LnDDave: Q3) I love to take other’s elearning w/my designer hat on – see what they did and why. It expands my ideas. #lrnchat <-Me Too!
05:11:38 pm ruzuku: @cellodav @briandusablon Seriously! I was wondering how feasible this approach would be – sounds tough for us… #lrnchat
05:11:42 pm cellodav: Q3) similar to answers to Q2): involve users from the beginning #lrnchat
05:11:42 pm oxala75: Q3) needs analysis, informal personas, and always remembering that you know nothing about the subject. focus on the problem. #lrnchat
05:11:44 pm NixTheNext: Q3) The most successful new UIs have NOT given users customize options! Think iPhone, Facebook… #lrnchat
05:11:49 pm RamonaMata: Q3: designing for me isnt an option. Always about the learner #lrnchat
05:11:59 pm aaronesilvers: RT @NixTheNext: Q3) The most successful new UIs have NOT given users customize options! Think iPhone, Facebook… #lrnchat
05:12:06 pm abigrace: RT @NixTheNext: @aaronesilvers: @lesleywprice IMHO- you shouldn’t have to train how to use training; The UI should be intuitive w/o instructions. #lrnchat
05:12:19 pm AndreaMay1: Q3) Don’t just do an audience analysis…actually apply what you have learned from it. #lrnchat
05:12:24 pm briandusablon: Q3) Again. Care. If you care about your users, you will design for them. #lrnchat
05:12:47 pm ruzuku: @CatMoore But how would you get meaningful feedback on content and interactions from a 15-20 minute test? #lrnchat
05:12:48 pm lesleywprice: q3) sometimes it feels like when we develop elearning we forget everything we have learned from traditional training #lrnchat
05:12:49 pm JD_Dillon: Q3) Experience other’s designs and see what people similar to your audience like to gain inspiration. #lrnchat
05:12:57 pm aaronesilvers: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you temper the natural tendency to design for yourself and, instead, design for others? #lrnchat
05:13:06 pm chrisstjohn: Q3: by using focus groups and making ISDs take each others courses. #lrnchat
05:13:10 pm NixTheNext: Q3) I design for myself ’cause I’m always right.
#lrnchat
05:13:12 pm cellodav: Q3) make use of others’ research too #lrnchat
05:13:17 pm aaronesilvers: RT @chrisstjohn: Q3: by using focus groups and making ISDs take each others courses. #lrnchat
05:13:23 pm StephenCHudson: Q3) Audience analysis and understanding help to put yourself in their shoes. Having to redo work helps you remember #lrnchat
05:13:33 pm amirelion: Q3) There are great website you can be inspired by. #lrnchat
05:13:48 pm aaronesilvers: @amirelion What websites inspire you? #lrnchat
05:13:51 pm briandusablon: Q3) Use available resources & PLN to get feedback. Interviews. Know your users. Go to them & learn from them in their environment. #lrnchat
05:14:01 pm 4KM: As I read #lrnchat, it isn’t obvious which elements of design you’re including (content, context, collaboration, platform, UI…)
05:14:07 pm RamonaMata: RT @NixTheNext: Q3) I design for myself cause Im always right.
haha #lrnchat
05:14:09 pm JD_Dillon: @NixTheNext – Is #Facebook a good example of quality design given user reaction lately?
Definitely #Apple! #lrnchat
05:14:10 pm LnDDave: Q3) Go against your habits on occasion. Ever try brushing your teeth with the OTHER hand? It makes you think about it differently. #lrnchat
05:14:13 pm aaronesilvers: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Use available resources & PLN to get feedback. Interviews. Know your users. Go to them & learn from them in their environment. #lrnchat
05:14:16 pm ruzuku: @NixTheNext I agree re: customization, but are iPhone and Facebook realistic design exemplars for the problems #lrnchat folks work on?
05:14:16 pm briandusablon: RT @AndreaMay1: Q3) Dont just do an audience analysis…actually apply what you have learned from it. #lrnchat
05:14:26 pm lesleywprice: RT @amirelion: Q3) There are great website you can be inspired by < exactly but also learn from others mistakes #lrnchat
05:14:27 pm ruzuku: RT @oxala75: Q3) needs analysis, informal personas, and always remembering that you know nothing about the subject. focus on the problem. #lrnchat
05:14:34 pm amirelion: Q3) Tom ideas – http://t.co/KBHoTSYq #lrnchat
05:14:42 pm NixTheNext: @aaronesilvers: @amirelion What websites inspire you? < not a site; I’m inspired by infographics in Bloomberg Businessweek! #lrnchat
05:14:47 pm JD_Dillon: Q3) Start fresh on each project. Even if you will reuse some assets, don’t get stuck in a rut doing the same thing over and over. #lrnchat
05:14:55 pm JD_Dillon: RT @LnDDave: Q3) Go against your habits on occasion. Ever try brushing your teeth with the OTHER hand? It makes you think about it differently. #lrnchat
05:14:55 pm CatMoore: @ruzuku It doesn’t take a long time to see if stuff is easy to use or appealing. #lrnchat
05:15:02 pm aaronesilvers: @4KM Are not all those elements present in a learner’s experience? #lrnchat
05:15:10 pm LnDDave: RT @CatMoore: @ruzuku It doesn’t take a long time to see if stuff is easy to use or appealing. #lrnchat
05:15:13 pm aaronesilvers: RT @NixTheNext: @aaronesilvers: @amirelion What websites inspire you? < not a site; I’m inspired by infographics in Bloomberg Businessweek! #lrnchat
05:15:31 pm lesleywprice: q3) also review what you have done in the past…you can learn a lot from what didn’t go well #lrnchat
05:15:43 pm JD_Dillon: Q3) Ask yourself … “Can my mom use this?” #lrnchat
05:15:48 pm 4KM: @aaronesilvers Yes, I think all those elements are important for learners. Wondering if important for all designers? #lrnchat
05:15:58 pm aaronesilvers: Q3) Own your #fail #lrnchat
05:15:59 pm CatMoore: Usability testing is just that–usability. Not a deep analysis of whether people are learning. #lrnchat
05:16:02 pm NixTheNext: @ruzuku Absolutely! standardizing UI across curriculum eliminates need to learn new UI for each course; But UI must be good. #lrnchat
05:16:08 pm LnDDave: RT @aaronesilvers: Q3) Own your #fail #lrnchat
05:16:10 pm HollyJustice1: Q3) Design for others. Be open to what the audience does now to learn. Google hangouts? Blogs? Videos? MP3 while running? #lrnchat
05:16:14 pm ruzuku: @CatMoore Maybe I’m too used to traditional user testing
. Anyway, would love to see article or case study on this approach #lrnchat
05:16:15 pm NixTheNext: RT @JD_Dillon: Q3) Ask yourself … “Can my mom use this?” #lrnchat
05:16:15 pm oxala75: one slightly controversial piece of elearning UX design advice: don’t trust your SME(s). #lrnchat
05:16:20 pm lesleywprice: RT @aaronesilvers: Q3) Own your #fail #lrnchat
05:16:24 pm briandusablon: Q3) Don’t start inside a rapid development tool or PowerPoint. Start with a blank canvas. #lrnchat
05:16:25 pm amirelion: @lesleywprice and sometimes you forget the good things that you’ve done. Recall and reuse them. #lrnchat
05:16:27 pm AndreaMay1: Q3)Some clients want interface consistent with other stuff they have…even if it is bad to start with. I lose sleep over this. #lrnchat
05:16:46 pm 4KM: @aaronesilvers For ex, might one continue to play with UI when the issue is not enough context about value of training? #lrnchat
05:16:58 pm briandusablon: Q3) Go outside the industry – how are web designers doing it? How are app developers doing it? Learn from them. #lrnchat
05:17:13 pm NixTheNext: RT @oxala75: one slightly controversial piece of elearning UX design advice: dont trust your SME(s). <not controversy; sad truth
#lrnchat
05:17:22 pm lesleywprice: RT @amirelion and sometimes you forget the good things that youve done. Recall and reuse them <good practioners are reflective #lrnchat
05:17:28 pm ruzuku: RT @oxala75: @briandusablon it’s especially easy to not care when you allow urself to be divorced from the user workflow. #lrnchat
05:17:33 pm oxala75: @briandusablon yep – start with paper and pencil (i start with a whiteboard), if you can. #lrnchat
05:17:35 pm amirelion: Q3) Think about other great interfaces. e.g. iPhone, Twitter… #lrnchat
05:17:45 pm AndreaMay1: RT @oxala75: controversial piece of elearning UX design advice: don’t trust your SMEs. #lrnchat <LOL…never. They are content, not design.
05:17:48 pm JD_Dillon: Q3) Design doesn’t need to match previous work, but it should align to past learner experiences. #lrnchat
05:17:54 pm techherding: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Don’t start w/ rapid development tool or PowerPoint. Start with a blank canvas. #lrnchat << I love my WhiteBoard
05:18:00 pm aaronesilvers: That’s UX design… > MT @4KM: all those elements are important for learners. Wondering if important for all designers? #lrnchat
05:18:04 pm chrisstjohn: RT @lesleywprice: RT @aaronesilvers: Q3) Own your #fail #lrnchat
05:18:08 pm JD_Dillon: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Don’t start inside a rapid development tool or PowerPoint. Start with a blank canvas. #lrnchat
05:18:33 pm LnDDave: Q3) Think about raising the bar. If you’re measuring success by ‘Number of Completions’, design may be the least of your concerns. #lrnchat
05:18:45 pm cellodav: RT @techherding: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Dont start w/ rapid development tool or PowerPoint. Start with a blank canvas. #lrnchat
05:18:46 pm amirelion: Q3) A different technique – deconstruct all UI elements and reconstruct them differently #lrnchat
05:18:48 pm techherding: RT @NixTheNext: RT @oxala75: dont trust your SME(s). Nothing wrong with that. They’re too close to the trees. #lrnchat
05:18:57 pm ruzuku: RT @AndreaMay1: Q3)Some clients want interface consistent with other stuff they have…even if it is bad to start with. I lose sleep over this. #lrnchat
05:18:59 pm aaronesilvers: Q3) As I learned from @amandamolly this last weekend, sketch like it’s toilet paper. Lots of uses, meant to be disposed of after #lrnchat
05:19:08 pm briandusablon: Q3) Remember it’s about the entire experience. You may not be able to fix everything, but you can make some areas better. #lrnchat
05:19:10 pm CatMoore: @ruzuku Short usability test, small number of users per Jakob Nielsen: http://t.co/vxt9D5I5 #lrnchat
05:19:29 pm LnDDave: RT @aaronesilvers: Q3) As I learned from @amandamolly, sketch like it’s toilet paper. Lots of uses, meant to be disposed of after #lrnchat
05:19:35 pm lesleywprice: RT @JD_Dillon: RT @briandusablon: Q3) Start with a blank canvas < but don’t reinvent the wheel if its not broken don’t fix it! #lrnchat
05:19:45 pm ruzuku: @CatMoore I agree re: usability vs. analysis of learning. What do you recommend for the latter? #lrnchat
05:19:50 pm TrainerBrew: RT @JD_Dillon: Q3) Start fresh on each project. Even if you will reuse some assets, don’t get stuck in a rut doing the same thing over and over. #lrnchat
05:19:52 pm 4KM: If all elements of design are considered, wouldn’t trust and collaboration with SMEs and others be integral part of prep? #lrnchat
05:19:53 pm JD_Dillon: RT @LnDDave: RT @aaronesilvers: Q3) As I learned from @amandamolly, sketch like it’s toilet paper. Lots of uses, meant to be disposed of after #lrnchat
05:20:05 pm aaronesilvers: Wait, #lrnchat. Wrong Amanda cited in my previous tweet.
05:20:07 pm briandusablon: I’ve never trusted SMEs. They like to print in full color to point out a missing comma. #lrnchat
05:20:17 pm TrainerBrew: RT @JD_Dillon: Q2) As @LnDDave points out, use reliable audience members to test your content during development/UAT, not just implementation. #lrnchat
05:20:19 pm ruzuku: @JD_Dillon Really? Is your mom the target audience for your project?
#lrnchat
05:20:30 pm oxala75: guys, i’m currently into this book http://t.co/GLipn5t9 re: UX design. Super helpful and very tactically-oriented #lrnchat
05:20:37 pm CatMoore: Why you only need to test with 5 users: http://t.co/7bMeCDf2 @ruzuku #lrnchat
05:20:41 pm OpenSesameNow: Great advice. RT @briandusablon: Q3) Don’t start [design] w/ rapid development tool or PowerPoint. Start with a blank canvas. #lrnchat
05:21:03 pm HollyJustice1: RT @amirelion: Q3) A different technique – deconstruct all UI elements and reconstruct them differently #lrnchat
05:21:05 pm techherding: Very first version of Windows put a button that said “Start” in the corner, used to close down system. It’s still there today. #lrnchat
05:21:08 pm dainadunlop: Actually I’ve worked with some great SMEs RT @briandusablon: I’ve never trusted SMEs. #lrnchat
05:21:08 pm oxala75: RT @briandusablon: I’ve never trusted SMEs. They like to print in full color to point out a missing comma. #lrnchat
05:21:12 pm chrisstjohn: @aaronesilvers Q3) great websites? Why http://t.co/tVFY4jce of course. 12.5Million hours of free seat time last year. #lrnchat
05:21:17 pm NixTheNext: Q3) I design in my rapid dev tool ’cause otherwise I sound like this trying to describe functionality http://t.co/bQzz1RdN #lrnchat
05:21:37 pm CatMoore: @ruzuku To evaluate whether people learned, measure performance change on the job. #lrnchat
05:21:45 pm NixTheNext: LOL RT @briandusablon: Ive never trusted SMEs. They like to print in full color to point out a missing comma. #lrnchat
05:21:51 pm oxala75: huh. guess we’ve been doing it right by accident. RT @CatMoore Why you only need to test with 5 users: http://t.co/zBrfTYDS @ruzuku #lrnchat
05:21:53 pm TrainerBrew: RT @LnDDave: @ruzuku Nothing stops you from asking people for feedback earlier, and yet it is often skipped. #lrnchat
05:21:58 pm lesleywprice: RT @CatMoore: @ruzuku To evaluate whether people learned, measure performance change on the job. #lrnchat
05:22:02 pm lrnchat: Q4) How do you evaluate your current learning systems? How do you incorporate feedback to continuously improve these systems? #lrnchat
05:22:06 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you evaluate your current learning systems? How do you incorporate feedback to continuously improve these systems? #lrnchat
05:22:34 pm lesleywprice: @lrnchat: Q4) How do you evaluate current learning systems? How do you incorporate feedback to continuously improve these systems? #lrnchat
05:22:53 pm techherding: “The evaluations continue until the performance improves.” #lrnchat
05:23:06 pm ruzuku: @CatMoore Totally! Understand, use & love discount usability testing. But that’s for iterative improvement of application UI… #lrnchat
05:23:26 pm amirelion: Q4) Tough one. I no we do it, never thought of it conciously how we do it… #lrnchat
05:23:40 pm michaelwillits: RT @OpenSesameNow: Great advice. RT @briandusablon: Q3) Don’t start [design] w/ rapid development tool or PowerPoint. Start with a blank canvas. #lrnchat
05:23:53 pm lesleywprice: q4) measure business impact don’t rely on happy sheets #lrnchat
05:23:55 pm OpenSesameNow: @techherding Heh. I’ll one-up you- I like to make sure evaluations are mandatory, at least 10-20 pages long, with long-form answers #lrnchat
05:23:58 pm amirelion: no>>know LOL #lrnchat
05:24:06 pm HollyJustice1: Q3) In design don’t assume you know it all. Look at other’s examples online. #lrnchat
05:24:08 pm AndreaMay1: Q4) As a consultant, I rarely get this opportunity…which is a bummer! #lrnchat
05:24:18 pm ruzuku: @CatMoore how does discount user testing help us understand learners’ engagement with content/activities? improve learning design? #lrnchat
05:24:24 pm AndrewJacobsLD: Q4 Don’t evaluate learning, evaluate development. Keep your eye on the bigger prize, not how happy your users are. #lrnchat
05:24:56 pm lesleywprice: q4) if you only rely on happy sheets learners might love it but if it has no impact on the business #whatsthepoint ? #lrnchat
05:25:03 pm cellodav: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do you eval your current learning systems? How do you incorp feedback to continuously improve these systems? #lrnchat
05:25:04 pm JD_Dillon: @ruzuku – Actually was at one point (both worked for Disney)! #lrnchat
05:25:29 pm chrisstjohn: Q4) There are a few LMS evaluation templates out there that are quite good. I will post a couple in tonights #lrnchat
05:25:32 pm cellodav: Q4) Standardized exams (just kidding!) #lrnchat
05:25:38 pm LnDDave: Q4) Speaking honestly? I’m like many who evaluate poorly because we’re pressured to move on to the next thing. #lrnchat
05:25:56 pm ExpertusONE: RT @lesleywprice: RT @CatMoore: @ruzuku To evaluate whether people learned, measure performance change on the job. #lrnchat
05:25:58 pm lesleywprice: RT @LnDDave: Q4) Speaking honestly? Im like many who evaluate poorly because were pressured to move on to the next thing. #lrnchat
05:26:00 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) Right now, living w/ level 1 and 2. Soon will incorporate more regular analysis, including focus groups and real-time comments. #lrnchat
05:26:00 pm CatMoore: @ruzuku I’m not saying that user testing measures engagement with content. It tests ease of use. #lrnchat
05:26:06 pm JaneBozarth: @oxala75 hey Craig how you doin’? #lrnchat
05:26:06 pm web20education: #pln #edchat #ukedchat #lrnchat join free now #edtech20 #socialmedia #curation project on #p2pu group http://t.co/UUpVd2VH #opened11 #wcet11
05:26:07 pm web20education: #pln #edchat #ukedchat #lrnchat join free now #edtech20 #socialmedia #curation project on #p2pu group… http://t.co/9cfmOdm8
05:26:08 pm oxala75: Q4) every one of our courses includes a “give us feedback!” bit that leads to a survey. We get several reviews/month this way. #lrnchat
05:26:09 pm amirelion: Some tips on UI design: http://t.co/Oga72pJ3 #lrnchat
05:26:17 pm ruzuku: @CatMoore OK… but we work on professional & personal development, outside the context of a specific workplace
#lrnchat
05:26:29 pm chrisstjohn: Q4) recently evaluated 387 LMSes. A template is the only was to cull out the wannabes. #lrnchat
05:26:54 pm StephenCHudson: Sorry to get pulled away from #lrnchat . Excited to see everyone at #DevLearn !
05:27:01 pm oxala75: @JaneBozarth hey Jane
pretty good. My direct report tipped me off to today’s #lrnchat, so I thought i’d make a cameo appearance.
05:27:02 pm NixTheNext: Q4) Unfortunately, the E in ADDIE truly is silent for us. #lrnchat
05:27:08 pm cellodav: Q4) give users ability to contact design team directly, bypassing assessors #lrnchat
05:27:23 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) Don’t wait for formalized feedback mechanisms, give learners a channel to provide opinions before/during/after training. #lrnchat
05:27:54 pm CatMoore: RT @NixTheNext: Q4) Unfortunately, the E in ADDIE truly is silent for us. #lrnchat
05:28:09 pm HollyJustice1: #lrnchat Q4) Customer surveys, course evaluations tell part of story. Rest is listening. I like to attend mtgs as fly on wall to hear buzz.
05:28:28 pm AndreaMay1: RT @NixTheNext: Q4) Unfortunately, the E in ADDIE truly is silent for us. #lrnchat <–Yep, too often, Sigh again.
05:28:31 pm amirelion: Q4) I wonder if we could use a test group approcah. Have more than one design and see different uses of them… #lrnchat
05:28:31 pm oxala75: Q4) in addition to surveys, we do synchronous screensharing sessions where users navigate the elearning while one of us watches. #lrnchat
05:28:39 pm ruzuku: Q4) Besides feedback surveys and looking at participation statistics? Not sure we have any amazing techniques. Open to ideas… #lrnchat
05:28:43 pm chrisstjohn: @techherding No Sir, I am a government employee.. (same thing?) #lrnchat
05:28:59 pm ruzuku: RT @JD_Dillon: Q4) Don’t wait for formalized feedback mechanisms, give learners a channel to provide opinions before/during/after training. #lrnchat
05:29:06 pm jmass: Q4) Iterative design methodology coupled with ongoing customer input
#lrnchat
05:29:17 pm oxala75: Q4) we ask/answer some questions but don’t do a lot of talking, otherwise. We let the user navigate, ask questions, make comments. #lrnchat
05:29:20 pm aaronesilvers: RT @NixTheNext: Q4) Unfortunately, the E in ADDIE truly is silent for us. #lrnchat
05:29:21 pm CatMoore: Q4) Evaluation: Design to meet a measurable performance goal, then compare before & after measurements. #lrnchat
05:29:32 pm cellodav: @NixTheNext http://t.co/DOmjbejf #lrnchat
05:29:57 pm NixTheNext: Q4) I’ve started embedding Google Spreadsheet forms to collect quick, “was this helpful” feedback. #lrnchat
05:30:03 pm ruzuku: RT @LnDDave: Q4) Speaking honestly? I’m like many who evaluate poorly because we’re pressured to move on to the next thing. #lrnchat
05:30:09 pm lesleywprice: RT @CatMoore: Q4) Design to meet measurable performance goal, then compare before & after measurements <= business impact #lrnchat
05:30:23 pm ruzuku: RT @AndrewJacobsLD: Q4 Don’t evaluate learning, evaluate development. Keep your eye on the bigger prize, not how happy your users are. #lrnchat
05:30:28 pm LnDDave: Q4) I look forward to having greater access to tech-based feedback; did the user get lost in the experience? #lrnchat
05:30:29 pm AndrewJacobsLD: @ruzuku Link 2 forums and chatrooms for user discussion. Include pre/post briefing questions as discussion topics for line managers #lrnchat
05:30:47 pm ExpertusONE: RT @CatMoore: Why you only need to test with 5 users: http://t.co/7bMeCDf2 @ruzuku #lrnchat
05:30:48 pm NixTheNext: I know! Count up those RT’s… it’s 5:00 somewhere
RT @cellodav: @NixTheNext http://t.co/WikUM6oD #lrnchat
05:30:55 pm cellodav: Q4) When evals are submitted, read them and act #lrnchat
05:31:05 pm JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
05:31:22 pm JD_Dillon: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
05:31:33 pm LnDDave: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
05:31:36 pm sparkandco: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
05:31:40 pm chrisstjohn: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
05:31:40 pm HollyJustice1: #lrnchat Q4) I like to ask leaders 1-on-1 if training worked for their team. Holds both of us accountable.
05:31:47 pm lesleywprice: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating training is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
05:32:03 pm oxala75: Q4) After feedback gathering period, idea is to meet w/stakeholders to revisit the elearning: did it help users do their jobs? #lrnchat
05:32:12 pm ruzuku: RT @NixTheNext: Q4) I’ve started embedding Google Spreadsheet forms to collect quick, “was this helpful” feedback. #lrnchat
05:32:15 pm NixTheNext: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating training is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
05:32:21 pm ruzuku: @NixTheNext Yup, we use Google forms also… #lrnchat
05:32:31 pm ruzuku: RT @CatMoore: Q4) Evaluation: Design to meet a measurable performance goal, then compare before & after measurements. #lrnchat
05:33:00 pm techherding: Yeah, when I hear people asking if they liked the lunch and if the A/C was ok, I’m off to the next project. #lrnchat
05:33:00 pm aaronesilvers: Well played > RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
05:33:07 pm ColinSteed: RT @CatMoore: Q4) Evaluation: Design to meet a measurable performance goal, then compare before & after measurements. #lrnchat
05:33:15 pm oxala75: Q4) chasing down learning application (applied learning…tomato, tomahto) is key — and often neglected #lrnchat
05:33:22 pm NixTheNext: @ruzuku We should tawk
I’m struggling with passing variables from #adobecaptivate via javascript w/o iframe embedding… #lrnchat
05:33:30 pm lesleywprice: RT @ruzuku: RT @NixTheNext: Q4) “was this helpful” < sounds a bit like happy sheets helpful does not always mean effective #lrnchat
05:33:38 pm JaneBozarth: @sue_freeman1 is this about #lrnchat? use the tag so it’ll show up –
05:33:39 pm sue_freeman1: #lrnchat You must measure the result of the training — not always easy… usually takes effort on the part of non-trainers: reluctant!
05:34:13 pm _Kavi: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
05:34:32 pm ruzuku: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
05:34:39 pm IntrepidLS: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
05:34:48 pm oxala75: @JaneBozarth wasn’t that Brinkerhoff line quoted in one of your articles? #lrnchat
05:34:54 pm sue_freeman1: #lrnchat One must measure the result of the training — not always easy… usually takes effort on the part of non-trainers: reluctant!
05:34:54 pm ExpertusONE: RT @CatMoore RT @ruzuku > Ah, Jakob Nielsen on #UEX testing. He’s brilliant at keeping it simple (both process & results) #lrnchat
05:35:18 pm coyenator: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
05:35:20 pm JaneBozarth: eLearning Guild 2011 report on social media for learning: 80% plan to “ask participants if they thought it was useful”. #lrnchat
05:35:24 pm cellodav: Q4 How do we evaluate an experience like lrnchat? The learning is successful but the UI is no more than a structured experience. #lrnchat
05:35:31 pm NixTheNext: @lesleywprice it’s only as good as follow-up- if answer = no, gotta find out why/what would’ve been. collecting is just 1st hurdle #lrnchat
05:35:33 pm JaneBozarth: @oxala75 at least. #lrnchat
05:35:42 pm OpenSesameNow: @janebozarth My goodness- Your tweet about Brinkerhoff just took over my entire #lrnchat HootSuite stream. That’s world domination.
05:35:54 pm ColinSteed: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat >Love that!
05:35:58 pm techherding: One of the ways I measure if my training/learning product was effective is is they keep paying me to do more. #lrnchat
05:36:00 pm JaneBozarth: @cellodav use the new Wenger measures for social media/interactions/outcomes #lrnchat
05:36:06 pm lrnchat: Q5) What tools do you use to design (not build) learning/performance solutions? What tools for A/B testing? Analytics? Prototyping? #lrnchat
05:36:11 pm JaneBozarth: @OpenSesameNow imagine. #lrnchat
05:36:22 pm JaneBozarth: @OpenSesameNow finally. #lrnchat
05:36:24 pm ruzuku: @lesleywprice @NixTheNext Here’s an example feedback form I’ve used in academic context (http://t.co/KixwyrQ4) – thoughts? #lrnchat
05:36:24 pm lesleywprice: q4) Unfortunately although it helps happy learner does not always = productive employee …is learning making a difference #lrnchat
05:36:30 pm SimonSalento: RT @AndrewJacobsLD: Q4 Don’t evaluate learning, evaluate development. Keep your eye on the bigger prize, not how happy your users are. #lrnchat
05:36:49 pm IntrepidLS: RT @JD_Dillon: Q4) Don’t wait for formalized feedback mechanisms, give learners a channel to provide opinions before/during/after training. #lrnchat
05:36:56 pm sowhatfaith: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
05:37:08 pm bschlenker: RT @aaronesilvers: I feel bad for @criticallearner but love his post: What happens in Vegas won’t stay in Vegas http://t.co/ut5XTUj4 #lrnchat #DevLearn
05:37:12 pm cellodav: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What tools do u use to design (not build) learning/perf solns? What tools for A/B testing? Analytics? Prototyping? #lrnchat
05:37:19 pm onsSara: jumping into #lrnchat very late… #lrnchat
05:37:23 pm lesleywprice: @ruzuku@NixTheNext Heres an example feedback form Ive used in academic context (http://t.co/lyZlmp2d) -Tks will have a look
#lrnchat
05:37:29 pm AndreaMay1: RT @techherding: One way I measure if my training product was effective is they keep paying me to do more. #lrnchat <Yes -love that metric!
05:37:30 pm dbolen: Q5 remember you can use pen/paper to build prototypes #lrnchat
05:37:38 pm OpenSesameNow: @janebozarth You, ma’am, have a knack for The Twitters. #lrnchat
05:37:41 pm amirelion: Q5) Paper and pencil. Whiteboard. Wireframe tools. Other people more creative than myself. #lrnchat
05:37:46 pm lesleywprice: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What tools do u use to design (not build) learning/perf solns? What tools for A/B testing? Analytics? Prototyping? #lrnchat
05:37:47 pm ruzuku: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What tools do you use to design (not build) learning/performance solutions? What tools for A/B testing? Analytics? Prototyping? #lrnchat
05:37:51 pm oxala75: Q5) PowerPoint, paper and pencil for learning/perf solution design #lrnchat
05:38:01 pm cellodav: RT @dbolen: Q5 remember you can use pen/paper to build prototypes #lrnchat
05:38:19 pm JaneBozarth: The info on Wenger -assessing value in communities- is in my “Truth About Social Learning” links at http://t.co/VDaghCsV #lrnchat
05:38:30 pm oxala75: Q5) Vovici for creating/hosting surveys for user testing #lrnchat
05:38:40 pm cellodav: @JaneBozarth thanks! learned more again
#lrnchat
05:38:55 pm lesleywprice: q5) mind mapping can be really helpful when building scenarios #lrnchat
05:39:15 pm AndreaMay1: Q5) Whatever works for the client and project…paper, PPT, online collaboration tools, etc. #lrnchat
05:39:24 pm HollyJustice1: RT @oxala75: Q4) we ask/answer some questions but don’t do a lot of talking, otherwise. We let the user navigate, ask questions, make comments. #lrnchat
05:39:31 pm oxala75: Q5) Google Analytics and our hosting/distribution solutions metrics tools for analytics #lrnchat
05:39:36 pm JD_Dillon: Q5) White boards go a long way for storyboarding/design. #lrnchat
05:40:00 pm ExpertusONE: RT @ColinSteed RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating training is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage” #lrnchat >Love it!
05:40:17 pm onsSara: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What tools do you use to design (not build) learning/performance solutions? What tools for A/B testing? Analytics? Prototyping? #lrnchat
05:40:31 pm ruzuku: Q5) Well, obviously we use http://t.co/NhVohgU5 to design & host courses & learning communities
#lrnchat
05:41:00 pm amirelion: Q5) I also use creative ideation techniques such as SCAMPER, SIT and more. #lrnchat
05:41:27 pm OpenSesameNow: @lrnchat We have a heatmapping tool for our website. Helps us understand where users eyes are attracted- not always what we expect! #lrnchat
05:41:44 pm ruzuku: Q5) Also rely on Google Docs for drafting text, Workflowy for collaborative outlining, & Behance Dot Grid notebooks for sketching! #lrnchat
05:42:24 pm oxala75: Q5) sometimes we use MockFlow for wireframing #lrnchat
05:42:24 pm ruzuku: RT @techherding: One of the ways I measure if my training/learning product was effective is is they keep paying me to do more. #lrnchat
05:42:37 pm HollyJustice1: @oxala75 Thanks for book tip RT http://t.co/iE3r1wL8 re: UX design. Super helpful and very tactically-oriented. #lrnchat
05:42:47 pm chrisstjohn: @OpenSesameNow which heatmapper do you use? #lrnchat
05:42:53 pm NixTheNext: @OpenSesameNow The guy who invented that heatmapping tool is in my extended family. #lrnchat
05:43:00 pm davefoord: RT @lesleywprice: q5) mind mapping can be really helpful when building scenarios #lrnchat <- mind mapping useful for lots of things
05:43:09 pm oxala75: @HollyJustice1 no problem! #lrnchat
05:44:11 pm bschlenker: RT @HollyJustice1: @oxala75 Thanks for book tip RT http://t.co/iE3r1wL8 re: UX design. Super helpful and very tactically-oriented. #lrnchat
05:44:42 pm AndrewJacobsLD: Q5 Design – Possibility thinking, lots of blank paper, caffeine. #lrnchat
05:45:02 pm ruzuku: RT @AndrewJacobsLD: Q5 Design – Possibility thinking, lots of blank paper, caffeine. #lrnchat
05:45:05 pm oxala75: ok, #lrnchat folks – i have to get some lunch and get back on my storyboard grind. ciao!
05:45:14 pm koutropoulos: RT @JaneBozarth: The info on Wenger -assessing value in communities- is in my “Truth About Social Learning” links at http://t.co/VDaghCsV #lrnchat
05:45:23 pm NixTheNext: RT @AndrewJacobsLD: Q5 Design – Possibility thinking, lots of blank paper, caffeine. #lrnchat
05:45:31 pm lesleywprice: RT @AndrewJacobsLD: Q5 Design – Possibility thinking, lots of blank paper, caffeine < or a bottle of wine ![]()
#lrnchat
05:45:33 pm bschlenker: RT @JaneBozarth: @cellodav use the new Wenger measures for social media/interactions/outcomes #lrnchat
05:46:16 pm koutropoulos: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
05:46:45 pm ruzuku: +1 … @oxala75 guys, i’m currently into this book http://t.co/RL2aWW5a re: UX design. Super helpful and very tactically-oriented #lrnchat
05:46:45 pm AndreaMay1: @oxala75 Have fun with that
#lrnchat
05:46:52 pm NixTheNext: Q5 is a stumper, eh? #lrnchat
05:47:06 pm oxala75: sorry, one more thing re: Q5) time as a design tool. Leave yourself LOTS of time to just think. #lrnchat Ok, now I’m gone.
05:47:38 pm ruzuku: @lesleywprice I think you and @AndrewJacobsLD are going to be designing very different learning experiences!
#lrnchat
05:47:40 pm aaronesilvers: That was a bit by design
> RT @NixTheNext: Q5 is a stumper, eh? #lrnchat
05:47:56 pm AndreaMay1: RT @NixTheNext: Q5 is a stumper, eh? #lrnchat <–Yeah, hard to answer in 140!
05:48:03 pm AndrewJacobsLD: Q5 Tools – Depends on solution. Esolutions in a hidden part of DLE with experienced testers and SME. #lrnchat
05:48:23 pm NixTheNext: RT @oxala75: one more thing re: Q5) time as a design tool. Leave yourself LOTS of time to just think. #lrnchat Ok, now Im gone. #lrnchat
05:48:58 pm lesleywprice: @ruzuku: I think you and @AndrewJacobsLD are going to be designing very different learning experiences!
lol! #lrnchat
05:49:20 pm HollyJustice1: @NixTheNext @OpenSesameNow Heatmapping tool! Wow! #lrnchat
05:49:35 pm NixTheNext: Q5) I go straight to my dev tool (after caffeine & lots o thinking). Prob not the best, but it works for me… #lrnchat
05:49:56 pm meganbowe: Q5) Analytics, to figure out where to research. Then prototyping fixes in those areas #lrnchat
05:50:03 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Please reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs are welcome. #lrnchat
05:50:38 pm cellodav: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Please reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs are welcome. #lrnchat
05:51:02 pm Laura4Ts: RT @ColinSteed: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat >Love that!
05:51:08 pm onsSara: Q5) tools for A/B testing?…pilot test in LMS w/broad range of students who complete a review form, then make “final” edits #lrnchat
05:51:14 pm JD_Dillon: Qwrap) JD from O-town, enjoyed more great thought partnership from #lrnchat!
05:51:53 pm aaronesilvers: Qwrap) Aaron Silvers, Community Manager for @learningreg and @ADL_Initiative. Speaking at #DevLearn. Shameless plugs to follow… #lrnchat
05:51:55 pm NixTheNext: Qwrap) Becky, Chicago, eLearning Dev’er primarily #AdobeCaptivate and #Lectora. T-minus 1 week for #Devlearn tweetup #lrnchat
05:52:06 pm ruzuku: @CatMoore thanks for your thoughts & links during #lrnchat today!
05:52:17 pm amirelion: Qwrap) Amir Elion, Kineo Israel. Please spread the word of Hebrew #lrnisr. Next meeting Nov 8, 2pm Israel time. #lrnchat
05:52:31 pm agilbertred: RT @CatMoore: Usability testing is just that–usability. Not a deep analysis of whether people are learning. #lrnchat
05:52:41 pm AndreaMay1: Qwrap)Andrea May in Minneapolis…Inst. Designer, training developer, and expert in SAP and propane. Visit us at http://www.dashe.com/blog #lrnchat
05:52:42 pm JaneBozarth: Looking forward to seeing many of you next week at #DevLearn! Join me for “Social Learning-Executives”, elearning design, more #lrnchat
05:52:43 pm aaronesilvers: US Sec.Ed. @arneduncan & US CTO @aneeshchopra will announce the release of @learningreg on 11/7 at the SETDA Leadership Summit. #lrnchat
05:52:43 pm CatMoore: @ruzuku You’re welcome. Thanks for participating. #lrnchat
05:53:08 pm JaneBozarth: RT @CatMoore: Usability testing is just that–usability. Not a deep analysis of whether people are learning. #lrnchat
05:53:29 pm amirelion: Thanks for a very interesting session. #lrnchat
05:53:29 pm AndrewJacobsLD: Qwrap L&D in UK, getting L&D at the front of business thinking, not an afterthought. http://t.co/rxS6mRf2 #lrnchat
05:53:34 pm dbolen: Qwrap Don Bolen hope to see some of y’all at #DevLearn BTW – speaking at said event – Agile PM and MSA + other acronyms #lrnchat
05:53:42 pm KavuBob: RT @aaronesilvers: US Sec.Ed. @arneduncan & US CTO @aneeshchopra will announce the release of @learningreg on 11/7 at the SETDA Leadership Summit. #lrnchat
05:53:48 pm cellodav: David Macdonald – gopher and ed techie at @ThorneloeUni in Sudbury, ON (1100 km east of Fargo ND) #lrnchat
05:53:51 pm chrisstjohn: Qwrap: Chris StJohn: Goverati @ DAU, the WalMart of Learning. Sunday Avatarian and supporter of the Rebel Alliance ((usually) #lrnchat
05:54:08 pm lesleywprice: qwrap)Lesley,UK check out prelim results of UKs biggest Learning Technology survey @towardsmaturity http://t.co/BZ3GKOWi #lrnchat
05:54:10 pm AndreaMay1: Thanks everyone for a great chat today! Catch you all next week
#lrnchat
05:54:26 pm CatMoore: Qwrap) Thanks all! Me: blog at http://t.co/wFg2yZna; teaching 2-day design certificate at Training 2012. #lrnchat
05:54:39 pm AndrewJacobsLD: Good #lrnchat session again today – thanks all.
05:54:41 pm aaronesilvers: Imma drop a whole lot of information with @mike_rustici on @projecttincan and details on where SCORM is going next at #DevLearn #lrnchat
05:54:43 pm cellodav: gotta love lrnchat – always end up with at least 5 new browser tabs open – thanks everyone! #lrnchat
05:54:50 pm ruzuku: Abe from http://t.co/NhVohgU5 . We’re a learning platform with good UX
. Check out our free intro course: http://t.co/rpADOHee #lrnchat
05:55:00 pm ruzuku: RT @AndrewJacobsLD: Good #lrnchat session again today – thanks all.
05:55:22 pm ruzuku: RT @amirelion: Thanks for a very interesting session. #lrnchat
05:55:41 pm sparkandco: Sad to have missed #lrnchat today, looked like a very pertinent discussion!
05:55:50 pm dbolen: RT @cellodav: gotta love lrnchat – always end up with at least 5 new browser tabs open – thanks everyone! Instapaper busy 2day! #lrnchat
05:55:51 pm AndreaMay1: @aaronesilvers Oh, I’ll have to check out the @lrndave back-channel on that one #lrnchat
05:56:02 pm aaronesilvers: Imma share insights on technology trends that will impact you and your company, and how new tech fits at #DevLearn #lrnchat
05:56:15 pm ccbranham: RT @JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat
05:56:33 pm BenMorton2: RT @CatMoore: Often we skip doing prototypes, or we don’t include learners in the development & testing of prototypes #lrnchat
05:56:37 pm HollyJustice1: Qwrap) Thanks for great ideas today. Holly from Portland OR USA. http://t.co/5J3It10K Sorry for the slowness- IE trouble today. #lrnchat
05:56:40 pm aaronesilvers: And there are several uncredited cameos planned in other workshops and presentations at #DevLearn #lrnchat
05:57:30 pm TerrenceWing: Last day 2 register. C #sociallearning behind the firewall @ the #Social Ecosystem Open House http://t.co/Tg9UAaYP #astd #lrnchat
05:58:10 pm Organicwal: RT @AndrewJacobsLD: Good #lrnchat session again today – thanks all.> Interesting read on a long boring train ride.
05:58:19 pm AndreaMay1: RT @AndreaMay1: @aaronesilvers Oh, I’ll have to check out the @lrndave back-channel on that one #lrnchat >Oops – meant @LnDDave
05:59:12 pm lrnchat: Thanks for joining #lrnchat. We’ll post the transcript on http://t.co/O8x38OGR See you again next Thursday (or later tonight).
06:00:11 pm meganbowe: RT @CatMoore: Why you only need to test with 5 users: http://t.co/UvvB7nVr #lrnchat
06:00:22 pm sparkandco: RT @oxala75: sorry, one more thing re: Q5) time as a design tool. Leave yourself LOTS of time to just think. #lrnchat <great point!
06:00:38 pm Spongelab: World’s deadliest spiders could hold the key to treating breast cancer | Mail Online http://t.co/NupwYHuB #edtech #edchat #lrnchat #scichat
06:00:53 pm bschlenker: RT @aaronesilvers: And there are several uncredited cameos planned in other workshops and presentations at #DevLearn #lrnchat
06:02:21 pm ZAX_CLO: ‚Äú@JaneBozarth: Brinkerhoff: “Evaluating ‘training’ is like evaluating the wedding instead of the marriage.” #lrnchat‚Äù
06:02:40 pm petercasebow: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @CatMoore: Usability testing is just that–usability. Not a deep analysis of whether people are learning. #lrnchat
06:03:10 pm bschlenker: #lrnchat will be LIVE during DemoFest next week at #DevLearn – a twitter chat IRF is something interesting to watch – don’t miss it!
06:04:16 pm JaneBozarth: RT @bschlenker: #lrnchat will be LIVE during DemoFest next week at #DevLearn – - dont miss it! #lrnchat
06:04:22 pm anicole87: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @CatMoore: Usability testing is just that–usability. Not a deep analysis of whether people are learning. #lrnchat
Transcript 20 October 2011 (late)
October 21, 201108:30:04 pm lrnchat: Welcome to tonight’s #lrnchat! How have you been?
08:31:01 pm lrnchat: If you’re new to #lrnchat, we have some instructions on our website: http://t.co/4Lr208H4
08:32:02 pm lrnchat: Q0) Our #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? What have you learned this week?
08:32:41 pm edCetraT: Hello everyone. Nancy, Toronto…patiently waiting for the kids to go to sleep
#lrnchat
08:32:49 pm ReubenTozman: Is #lrnchat happening?
08:33:36 pm hjarche: Social (networked) learning is part of spectrum that includes Workforce-centric (project team) learning http://t.co/Q4W9W1Pj #lrnchat
08:33:38 pm edCetraT: @ReubenTozman it looks like its just you and me. let’s lrnchat:)
#lrnchat
08:34:09 pm _Kavi: Stuck in a location without a proper net connection #lrnchat
08:34:28 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, learning experience design strategist, genial malcontent, author/speaker/consultant, Walnut Creek CA #lrnchat
08:34:32 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q0) Our #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? What have you learned this week?
08:34:45 pm JaneBozarth: @edCetraT @reubentozman I’m here. No answer to q0 because of NDAs lol #lrnchat
08:34:47 pm hjarche: sorry can’t stay for #lrnchat this evening – have to get up very early tomorrow morning
08:34:54 pm _Kavi: Its always a treat to be a part of #lrnchat. Doesn’t feel nice to miss #lrnchat
08:34:58 pm Quinnovator: q0) learned that some folks still don’t get social media: spamming hashtags like #lrnchat
08:34:58 pm urbie: #lrnchat qintro urbie delgado, instructional designer, nm & az, http://t.co/QPeu8BYR
08:35:10 pm RyanJSegrist: Wish I could join #lrnchat tonight. It’s been WAY too long
Hopefully next week.
08:35:21 pm Quinnovator: @hjarche “I came to say I must be going” #lrnchat
08:35:26 pm JaneBozarth: @edCetraT @reubentozman I’m here. No answer to q0 because of NDAs lol #lrnchat
08:35:48 pm JaneBozarth: Tweetchat probs tonight. Anyone using something other than Tweetdeck? #lrnchat
08:35:52 pm ReubenTozman: reuben tozman CLO of edCetra Training holed up in Ottawa #lrnchat
08:35:52 pm Quinnovator: welcome to new and returning #lrnchat participants, time for the rapid memestream!
08:35:58 pm _Kavi: Will try and access from the phone and go the distance to which its possible ! #lrnchat
08:36:04 pm TriciaRansom: Hey all, this is Tricia from Chicago… Will be in and out of #lrnchat tonight.
08:36:14 pm JaneBozarth: @RyanJSegrist Hi ryan good to see you. sorry you can’t stay. #lrnchat
08:36:35 pm urbie: #lrnchat what’d i learn today? about open access courtesy of @laurapasquini bit.ly/qZOjmx
08:36:37 pm JaneBozarth: RT @Quinnovator: q0) learned that some folks still don’t get social media: spamming hashtags like #lrnchat
08:36:37 pm edCetraT: @JaneBozarth LOL…using tweetchat. seems a little slow. what’s the topic tonight? #lrnchat
08:36:56 pm JD_Dillon: JD, learning development director, #Flyers fan, #Chipotle addice, Orlando, glad to be #lrnchat …ing
08:37:06 pm sogarlene: Hello all! Today I buzzed around too much to remember learning anything. Hope to find a calm space to reflect here. #lrnchat
08:37:21 pm JaneBozarth: q0 I did learn a lot about social media tools for project management #lrnchat
08:38:02 pm _Kavi: Good work is recognised for good work automatically stands out ! #lrnchat
08:38:07 pm nancyrubin: It’s time for #lrnchat – Nancy Rubin – Self-Employed Consultant – Tweeting from Educause in Philly (#edu11)
08:38:22 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat David Glow, Tampa, FL- fashionably late ![]()
08:38:23 pm JD_Dillon: Q0) Today I learned how powerful a random brainstorming session can be in getting someone on the right creative path. #lrnchat
08:38:30 pm RyanJSegrist: @JaneBozarth Hi Jane!! Good to see you too!! Unfortunately I have a few too many things on my plate to really do #lrnchat right.
08:38:41 pm ReubenTozman: RT @JaneBozarth: q0 I did learn a lot about social media tools for project management – like what #lrnchat
08:38:44 pm chambo_online: Lisa Chamberlin, learning maven, freelance ID, hater of hashtag spammers. #lrnchat
08:38:49 pm edCetraT: @JaneBozarth please share. always looking for tools to amalgamate all projects into one to giant gantt chart
#lrnchat
08:39:00 pm Quinnovator: RT @JD_Dillon: Q0) learned how powerful a random brainstorming session can be in getting someone on the right creative path. #lrnchat < Yay
08:39:22 pm _Kavi: Q0) healthy paranoia helps performance #lrnchat
08:39:30 pm nancyrubin: Q0) Learned a lot following along Educause (#edu11) stream online and then attending in person today and tomorrow #lrnchat
08:39:51 pm ReubenTozman: q0) I learned that even things that seem blk and white, aren’t #cryptic #lrnchat
08:40:02 pm ThomasStone: Thomas Stone, from Rochester, NY. Research Analyst with Taleo. Hello fellow #lrnchat folks!
08:40:03 pm lrnchat: Q1) Has your training department had an impact on performance? How do you show it? #lrnchat
08:40:30 pm chambo_online: Q0) I learned that Google Docs “collections” still confuses people…a lot. #lrnchat
08:40:48 pm kasey428: Kay Wood, DC metro, consultant to feds on work performance, elearning, instructional systems architect; I do whatever they ask. #lrnchat
08:40:51 pm criticallearner: Q0) #lrnchat Learned a friend is just about to welcome his first two kids (girls) into the world- any time now.
08:41:04 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Has your training department had an impact on performance? How do you show it? #lrnchat
08:41:06 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q1 how has training department had an impact on performance? We’ve developed a program for SMEs to develop training. We did LVL 4.
08:41:10 pm ReubenTozman: q0) I learned that people want learning on demand but when they see it, don’t know what to do with it #lrnchat
08:41:31 pm _Kavi: Q0) Ideas X Execution = Results. If either Ideas or execution is ’0′.. The result is ’0′ ! #lrnchat
08:41:37 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) Training definitely has upped performance but hard to quantify and too relied upon for continued improvement. #lrnchat
08:41:44 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Has your training department had an impact on performance? How do you show it? #lrnchat
08:41:48 pm Quinnovator: and don’t forget the Official #lrnchat Drinking Game‚Ñ¢ http://t.co/VeuihVpN (drinks at the ready!)
08:42:00 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Has your training department had an impact on performance? How do you show it? #lrnchat
08:42:01 pm ThomasStone: Q0) In the past week I’ve learned that a lot of people don’t keep up their LinkedIn connections nearly as well as they should. #lrnchat
08:42:12 pm _Kavi: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Has your training department had an impact on performance? How do you show it? #lrnchat
08:42:19 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) Learning orgs should support performance improvement, not own it 100%. #lrnchat
08:42:29 pm stellal: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Has your training department had an impact on performance? How do you show it? #lrnchat
08:42:42 pm rjpanetti: rjpanetti, flowlearner, Atlanta. Saw a demo of Chatter today. Did you know they app store? #lrnchat
08:42:58 pm JaneBozarth: q1. You mean positive, right? #lrnchat
08:43:01 pm Quinnovator: q1) start from impact you *want* , then design intervention accordingly, (not just training) to achieve, measure impact #lrnchat
08:43:02 pm criticallearner: Q1 #lrnchat My favorite example of showing impact: security co has prof. hackers try to phish your org after training #realwplearn
08:43:31 pm Quinnovator: RT @criticallearner: Q1 #lrnchat My favorite example of showing impact: security co has prof. hackers try to phish your org after training
08:43:41 pm _Kavi: Q1) The proof of the pudding is in the eating #lrnchat
08:44:16 pm ReubenTozman: q1) what does training have to do with performance?
#lrnchat
08:44:32 pm edCetraT: Q1) ppl were recently demonstrating performance by measuring ROI. i think that’s just stats and you can interpret it any way u want #lrnchat
08:44:47 pm Quinnovator: RT @reubentozman: q1) what does training have to do with performance? #lrnchat < well, it *can* (but rarely does ![]()
08:45:00 pm chambo_online: Q1) Well, they *show* it by the doodles, sighs, & eyeball rolls. I guess “training” isn’t in the top 40 of most desired tasks. #lrnchat
08:45:02 pm sogarlene: Q1) Impact on performance is inconsistently evaluated. Operations = easier. Other = not so easy. Return on Expectation interesting. #lrnchat
08:45:22 pm kasey428: @ReubenTozman training rarely if ever impacts performance, performance is a broader issue #lrnchat
08:45:47 pm chambo_online: RT @ReubenTozman: q1) what does training have to do with performance? #lrnchat
08:45:56 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat Q1) we measure pre/post (or “trained/control” grp) results from biz. Then survey “what contributed to perf?” (training is just 1)
08:46:07 pm _Kavi: Q1) setting clear objectives, meeting objectives, talking about having met objectives #lrnchat
08:46:20 pm Quinnovator: q1) measure impact on performance, whether training, support, eCommunity #lrnchat
08:46:42 pm ReubenTozman: RT @Quinnovator: q1) what does training have to do with performance? #lrnchat < well, it *can* – you’d never know it eh? #lrnchat
08:46:51 pm LnDDave: Greetings #lrnchat! David Kelly from NYC joining a little late.
08:46:51 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) we are still measuring sessions presented and backsides in seats. le sigh. #lrnchat
08:47:09 pm Quinnovator: RT @TriciaRansom: Q1) we are still measuring sessions presented and backsides in seats. le sigh. #lrnchat < hear you
08:47:23 pm djkrieg: #lrnchat a1 impacted performance on dealing with change -simple model worked for many projects
08:47:29 pm TriciaRansom: @LnDDave Hey there! #lrnchat
08:47:52 pm _Kavi: RT @Quinnovator: RT @reubentozman: q1) what does training have to do with performance? #lrnchat < well, it *can* (but rarely does ![]()
08:48:00 pm Quinnovator: @TriciaRansom see Gloria Gery’s rejoiner “may as well weigh ‘em” http://t.co/17vnaSLJ #lrnchat
08:48:03 pm nancyrubin: Training and professional development should be ongoing and part of org culture – foster employee engagement – win-win #lrnchat
08:48:08 pm _Kavi: RT @edCetraT: Q1) ppl were recently demonstrating performance by measuring ROI. i think that’s just stats and you can interpret it any way u want #lrnchat
08:48:09 pm criticallearner: q1> #lrnchat And when “measuring”, there is early discussion on “how” and the fact that it’s a v. rough correlation, not causal
08:48:14 pm ReubenTozman: RT @kasey428: training rarely if ever impacts performance, performance is a broader issue – Doesnt that make training pointless? #lrnchat
08:48:25 pm LnDDave: Q1) There are lots of techniques learning professionals use to show training impact. The problem is, most of them don’t. #lrnchat
08:48:26 pm TriciaRansom: Thanks for the laugh! RT @Quinnovator: @TriciaRansom see Gloria Gerys rejoiner “may as well weigh em” http://t.co/LwgrG0bn #lrnchat
08:48:32 pm djkrieg: #lrnchat the impact on performance comes from the individual
08:48:40 pm chambo_online: Q1)Training is to performance as grades are to learning…might be some correlation, but it is not direct. #lrnchat
08:49:21 pm Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q1) lots of techniques learning professionals use to show training impact. problem is, most of them don’t #lrnchat < true that
08:49:28 pm criticallearner: @triciaransom Unfortunately, too many “burgers served” metrics still out there #lrnchat
08:49:36 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) I have issues with stats ie ROI. I love numbers and can make them say anything you want them to say. #lrnchat
08:49:41 pm _Kavi: RT @Quinnovator: @TriciaRansom see Gloria Gery’s rejoiner “may as well weigh ‘em” http://t.co/17vnaSLJ #lrnchat
08:49:46 pm LnDDave: Q1) If you ARE going to try to show impact, at least use a metric that is applicable to the desired performance outcomes. #lrnchat
08:50:00 pm TriciaRansom: @criticallearner Hi! How have you been? #lrnchat
08:50:11 pm LnDDave: RT @chambo_online: Q1)Training is to performance as grades are to learning…might be some correlation, but it is not direct. #lrnchat
08:50:13 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) Do you mean all 5s on the smile sheet doesn’t = improved performance?
#lrnchat
08:50:41 pm MandiTorrez: @nancyrubin I agree until there becomes a PD overload. I can only try to implement so many “new ideas” at once. #lrnchat
08:50:53 pm TriciaRansom: Multi-tasking: #lrnchat and Project Runway and trying to keep warm! Winter came to Chicago early this year! #lrnchat
08:51:05 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat Q1> THE issue is that too often it’s centered around the content or learner, not the performance/behavior
08:51:28 pm nancyrubin: The 10 Things Managers Must Do to Increase Employee Engagement http://t.co/u4PI2nDG #lrnchat
08:51:32 pm ExpertusONE: RT @JD_Dillon: Q1) Do you mean all 5s on the smile sheet doesn’t = improved performance?
#lrnchat
08:51:34 pm Quinnovator: RT @JD_Dillon: Q1) Do you mean all 5s on the smile sheet doesn’t = improved performance?
#lrnchat < ![]()
08:51:36 pm kuriousmind: RT @criticallearner: #lrnchat Q1> THE issue is that too often it’s centered around the content or learner, not the performance/behavior
08:51:49 pm Quinnovator: RT @criticallearner: #lrnchat Q1> THE issue is that too often it’s centered around the content or learner, not the performance/behavior < !
08:51:49 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) We use smile sheets to measure and evaluate what we do and what they learned and what they implemented. #lrnchat
08:51:57 pm JaneBozarth: Most training isn’t intended to have an impact on performance. It’s CYA. #lrnchat
08:52:03 pm Nic_707: Late to #lrnchat – but at least am here!
08:52:09 pm _Kavi: RT @chambo_online: Q1)Training is to performance as grades are to learning…might be some correlation, but it is not direct. #lrnchat
08:52:11 pm sogarlene: Q1) Seeing lots of negatives. Can anyone share a positive example of ROI or impact on performance? #lrnchat
08:52:21 pm Quinnovator: @TriciaRansom and just *how* do smilesheets evaluate what they implemented?!? #lrnchat
08:52:21 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat Q1> My newly designed Level 1 survey http://t.co/mPSYlcZ8
08:52:24 pm TriciaRansom: Yep! RT @JaneBozarth: Most training isnt intended to have an impact on performance. Its CYA. #lrnchat
08:52:38 pm LnDDave: RT @sogarlene: Q1) Seeing lots of negatives. Can anyone share a positive example of ROI or impact on performance? #lrnchat
08:52:46 pm TriciaRansom: Still not clear on that…RT @Quinnovator: @TriciaRansom and just *how* do smilesheets evaluate what they implemented?!? #lrnchat
08:53:00 pm kasey428: @ReubenTozman Training focuses on skill development or mandated check the box. Training can be a component of a performance plan. #lrnchat
08:53:04 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) Most eLearning does improve performance! Employees become SO much better at clicking forward arrows! #lrnchat
08:53:09 pm criticallearner: RT @janebozarth: Most training isn’t intended to have an impact on performance. It’s CYA. #lrnchat > TOO TRUE, and too sad ![]()
08:53:44 pm LnDDave: @sogarlene I did a complete ROI analysis for my CFO, and in doing so proved it to be a waste of my efforts. THAT WAS a success. #lrnchat
08:53:49 pm JaneBozarth: I have it on good authority that “fun” in and of itself is proof that people learned. Not a credible authority, but a good one. #lrnchat
08:54:07 pm criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat If we don’t believe in the value of our own craft, then what are we doing here?
08:54:08 pm lrnchat: Q2) Who else (outside of “training”) is supporting or improving performance? #lrnchat
08:54:10 pm kasey428: RT @JD_Dillon: Q1) Most eLearning does improve performance! Employees become SO much better at clicking forward arrows! #lrnchat
08:54:11 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) Once got an email got from learner that thanks to my course they closed a deal they’d been working on for 1 year. #lrnchat
08:54:18 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Who else (outside of “training”) is supporting or improving performance? #lrnchat
08:54:23 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Who else (outside of “training”) is supporting or improving performance? #lrnchat
08:54:39 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Who else (outside of “training”) is supporting or improving performance? #lrnchat
08:54:47 pm ReubenTozman: q2)operations #lrnchat
08:54:49 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Who else (outside of “training”) is supporting or improving performance? #lrnchat
08:54:52 pm chambo_online: RT @JaneBozarth: “fun” in and of itself is proof that people learned. Not a credible authority, but a good one.–>what she said #lrnchat
08:54:53 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Who else (outside of “training”) is supporting or improving performance? | Just joined #lrnchat
08:54:53 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Who else (outside of “training”) is supporting or improving performance? #lrnchat
08:54:57 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) Big difference between who IS and who SHOULD support performance improvement. It requires a cultural shift in the entire org. #lrnchat
08:55:03 pm Quinnovator: q2) well, the learners often *try*, hampered by bad portal design, firewall blockage, no coordination across silos #lrnchat
08:55:15 pm diannedNipu: RT @nancyrubin: The 10 Things Managers Must Do to Increase Employee Engagement http://t.co/u4PI2nDG #lrnchat
08:55:31 pm jsuzcampos: Q2) Lots of first line supervisors I know work really hard to support performance of their teams.
#lrnchat
08:55:32 pm edCetraT: Q2) ourselves. anyone that is passionate in something. will increase the drive to learn and perform
#lrnchat
08:55:32 pm criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat Operations, business process improvement. Good training can’t get around bad tools or process at times. #gotta_align!
08:55:35 pm Nic_707: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Who else (outside of “training”) is supporting or improving performance? #lrnchat
08:55:38 pm LnDDave: Q2) If your managers are not supporting performance improvement, than performance is likely not improving. #lrnchat
08:55:39 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) co-workers, help-desk, water cooler chats, imagination, SMEs. #lrnchat
08:55:40 pm _Kavi: ‘New Improved’ Performance, if at all, happens after learning and on the job ! The job has many demands & many fathers #lrnchat
08:55:41 pm urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Who else (outside of “training”) is supporting or improving performance? #lrnchat
08:55:45 pm JaneBozarth: q2 FYI: @elearningguild report social media for learning: 30% respondents said no interest in providing performance support #lrnchat
08:55:54 pm Quinnovator: q2) IT often takes a stab, Operations & Engineering will develop some support materials, Legal gives some *help*
#lrnchat
08:55:57 pm ThomasStone: The taskmaster with the whip? RT @lrnchat: Q2) Who else (outside of “training”) is supporting or improving performance? #lrnchat
08:55:59 pm minutebio: Q2) Good help desk / ITstaff when they teach how to fix it yourself #lrnchat
08:56:06 pm nancyrubin: Employees should set personal goals and revisit periodically not just at a review – SMART Goal-setting http://t.co/AzM7lEuR #lrnchat
08:56:08 pm LnDDave: Q2) The Google. #lrnchat
08:56:09 pm chambo_online: RT @TriciaRansom: Q2) co-workers, help-desk, water cooler chats, imagination, SMEs. #lrnchat
08:56:13 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: q2 FYI: @elearningguild report social media for learning: 30% said no interest in providing performance support #lrnchat
08:56:14 pm djkrieg: #lrnchat real collaboration the kind that is developed out of trust and open minds
08:56:18 pm jsuzcampos: Q2) I have lots of peers and colleagues who support my performance every day through simple discussion.
#lrnchat
08:56:19 pm ExpertusONE: Ouch – truth hurts! RT @kasey428: RT @JD_Dillon: Most eLearning improves performance! Ppl become great at clicking forward arrows! #lrnchat
08:56:25 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) C-suite down must have performance improvement on their priority list 365/year, not as an annual check-in-the-box HR strategy. #lrnchat
08:56:34 pm Quinnovator: RT @minutebio: Q2) Good help desk / ITstaff when they teach how to fix it yourself #lrnchat < yes, but only *some* probs
08:56:35 pm urbie: #lrnchat operations and line SMEs, super taking on the development delivery roles to make training more engaging .. so-me on the front lines
08:56:45 pm mollybob: @janebozarth re Q2) #lrnchat improving performance should be a managerial responsibility, not just the domain of training.
08:56:50 pm LnDDave: @ThomasStone Tom! I haven’t seen you in the chat in a while. How are you? #lrnchat
08:56:54 pm rjpanetti: RT @LnDDave: Q2) If your managers are not supporting performance improvement, than performance is likely not improving. #lrnchat
08:56:57 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat Q2> The community (workers, industry). Look at #lrnchat – don’t we all help each other understand our craft more?
08:57:03 pm minutebio: RT @chambo_online: RT @TriciaRansom: Q2) co-workers, help-desk, water cooler chats, imagination, SMEs. #lrnchat
08:57:03 pm nancyrubin: RT @JD_Dillon: Q2) C-suite down must have performance improvement on their priority list 365/year, not as an annual check-in-the-box HR strategy. #lrnchat
08:57:07 pm ThomasStone: yes, definitely RT @minutebio: Q2) Good help desk / ITstaff when they teach how to fix it yourself #lrnchat
08:57:10 pm JaneBozarth: q2 each other #lrnchat
08:57:15 pm Quinnovator: RT @jsuzcampos: Q2) I have lots of peers and colleagues who support my performance every day through simple discussion. #lrnchat
08:57:26 pm JaneBozarth: @mollybob did i say otherwise? #lrnchat
08:57:29 pm _Kavi: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Who else (outside of “training”) is supporting or improving performance? #lrnchat
08:57:35 pm minutebio: Q2) Org development staff #lrnchat
08:57:45 pm Quinnovator: q2) your network, even if you have to take a ‘social media cigarette break’ and take your mobile outside #lrnchat
08:57:45 pm chambo_online: @Quinnovator Legal’s *help* falls under “with friends like this…who needs enemies” #lrnchat
08:57:53 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) I learn from you guys. Thanks #lrnchat !! #lrnchat
08:57:55 pm JD_Dillon: RT @Quinnovator: RT @jsuzcampos: Q2) I have lots of peers and colleagues who support my performance every day through simple discussion. #lrnchat
08:58:17 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat Q2) Siri
08:58:18 pm chambo_online: RT @jsuzcampos: Q2) I have lots of peers and colleagues who support my performance every day through simple discussion. #lrnchat
08:58:22 pm ThomasStone: In orgs that truly live the 70/20/10 thing, then I’d say the biggest group that helps performance is “peers”. #lrnchat
08:58:28 pm LnDDave: Q2) Individuals. They own their performance, not the trainers. #lrnchat
08:58:30 pm kasey428: RT @jsuzcampos: Q2) I have lots of peers and colleagues who support my performance every day through simple discussion. #lrnchat
08:58:44 pm LnDDave: RT @Quinnovator: q2) your network, even if you have to take a ‘social media cigarette break’ and take your mobile outside #lrnchat
08:58:55 pm Quinnovator: @chambo_online “we’re from legal and we’re here to help you” #lrnchat
08:58:56 pm JaneBozarth: q2 lots of times learners now (think sales) get the really useful info from marketing dept re new products, specs, etc. #lrnchat
08:59:00 pm JD_Dillon: @criticallearner – Nice! #Siri has revealed the meaning of life to me … many times! #lrnchat
08:59:04 pm ThomasStone: Doing fine… I was on last week, lightly RT @LnDDave: @ThomasStone Tom! I haven’t seen you in the chat in a while. How are you? #lrnchat
08:59:09 pm LnDDave: RT @ThomasStone: In orgs that truly live the 70/20/10 thing, then I’d say the biggest group that helps performance is “peers”. #lrnchat
08:59:46 pm ThomasStone: What the red-head-said –> RT @JaneBozarth: q2 each other #lrnchat
09:00:00 pm rjpanetti: Q2) even the best training is still an antecedent to performance. Consequences from boss, peers, and environment are the real key #lrnchat
09:00:20 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) Personally, I think marketing and training dept should be inseparable. #lrnchat
09:00:27 pm minutebio: Q2) At times the customers teach us… especially for customer facing staff #lrnchat
09:00:35 pm Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q2) Individuals. They own their performance #lrnchat < but unless they’re very self-effective…(don’t take for granted)
09:00:41 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone why can’t everyone just agree? How are you,anyway? Channeled you in a convo the other day. #lrnchat
09:00:55 pm sogarlene: Q2) Who? In a perfect world, leaders and peers support performance. Now, if you asked “what” supports training… #lrnchat
09:01:01 pm kasey428: RT @rjpanetti: Q2) even the best training is still an antecedent to performance. #lrnchat
09:01:12 pm JaneBozarth: @TriciaRansom ID and marketing have way more in common than they realize #lrnchat
09:01:13 pm jsuzcampos: Q2) Performance only improves among motivated workers. You gotta help yourself, too.
#lrnchat
09:01:38 pm minutebio: RT @TriciaRansom: ..I think marketing and training dept should be inseparable. | Yes, but sumtimes its love-hate relationship #lrnchat
09:01:44 pm JD_Dillon: @minutebio – Great point regarding the value of #learning from customers on a regular, informal basis. #lrnchat
09:01:46 pm TriciaRansom: Much of what I do is marketing and sales RT @JaneBozarth: @TriciaRansom ID and marketing have way more in common than they realize #lrnchat
09:01:47 pm minutebio: RT @jsuzcampos: Q2) Performance only improves among motivated workers. You gotta help yourself, too. #lrnchat
09:02:02 pm criticallearner: RT @triciaransom: Q2) Personally, I think marketing and training dept should be inseparable. #lrnchat > recent article said ed is mktg.
09:02:14 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth @TriciaRansom good marketing is educating the customer #lrnchat
09:02:37 pm minutebio: RT @Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth @TriciaRansom good marketing is educating the customer #lrnchat
09:02:50 pm ExpertusONE: Q2) Execs say talent is key now. Means find right ppl & help them fit in stand out & flourish in the role. Learning s/b ctr of that #lrnchat
09:02:52 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator & often ID is ‘selling’ learner on making a change #lrnchat
09:03:05 pm ThomasStone: @JaneBozarth I’m doing fine… but thinking a lot about all of my friends at Element K. Tough week for them I think. #lrnchat
09:03:06 pm TriciaRansom: And good education is selling the product RT @Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth @TriciaRansom good marketing is educating the customer #lrnchat
09:03:18 pm kasey428: RT @JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator & often ID is selling learner on making a change #lrnchat
09:03:25 pm ReubenTozman: q2) did i mention operations – their whole job is to create efficient performance #lrnchat
09:03:26 pm Nic_707: Totally agree – RT Quinnovator – @JaneBozarth @TriciaRansom good marketing is educating the customer #lrnchat
09:03:32 pm sogarlene: q2) @jsuzcampos Great point! Motivation to learn is key? How to achieve it? culture? leader style? so many pieces to the puzzle #lrnchat
09:03:42 pm Quinnovator: @ExpertusONE but *everyone* wants the right ppl, you aren’t going to be able to corner the market, need to develop #lrnchat
09:03:42 pm chambo_online: Training is theory, performance requires practice for improvement. Whatever gives opportunity to practice skills works. #lrnchat
09:03:44 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone yeah I wondered how it would play out for them. We’ve dealt w Tara and always liked her. Hope she’ll be ok. #lrnchat
09:03:45 pm JD_Dillon: @criticallearner @triciaransom – Marketing/training/communication have many similarities, trying to ‘sell’ people on new ideas. #lrnchat
09:03:49 pm nancyrubin: Talent: Our Most Valuable Global Currency Is Managed like a Commodity – Forbes http://t.co/un13V0fa #lrnchat
09:04:09 pm ExpertusONE: Yes – for multiple reasons! RT @criticallearner: RT @triciaransom: Q2) Personally, I think mktg & training dept s/b inseparable… #lrnchat
09:04:15 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth as long as it’s ‘solution selling’, not the used-car type… #lrnchat
09:04:42 pm criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat good marketing and good education is about helping the person realize their own motivators to change
09:05:26 pm JD_Dillon: RT @criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat good marketing and good education is about helping the person realize their own motivators to change
09:05:44 pm criticallearner: RT @chambo_online: Training is theory, perf requires practice for improvement. Whatever gives opportunity to practice skills works. #lrnchat
09:06:30 pm criticallearner: RT @quinnovator: @JaneBozarth as long as it’s ‘soln selling’, not the used-car type… #lrnchat BINGO (fool once, but after trust is gone..)
09:06:36 pm JaneBozarth: Suddenly craving a ginger ale. Could someone run out and pick one up for me? Thx. #lrnchat
09:07:07 pm chambo_online: @JaneBozarth What? Not Mt. Dew? #lrnchat
09:07:08 pm ReubenTozman: RT @JaneBozarth: Suddenly craving a ginger ale. Could someone run out and pick one up for me? Thx. – no #lrnchat
09:07:13 pm Quinnovator: support can be perf support, eCommunity, not just training. If not there, people will find, make, or abandon hope #lrnchat
09:07:24 pm JaneBozarth: @criticallearner @quinnovator shoot the messenger, why don’t you? #lrnchat
09:07:34 pm sogarlene: @ThomasStone what happened at element k? gads! I remember at CompuServe we supported ZDNet which-correct if wrong-became element k #lrnchat
09:07:45 pm JaneBozarth: @ReubenTozman nice. #lrnchat
09:07:58 pm criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat I was a former mkt research guy, now a L&D guy. They are VERY similar (WIIFM).
09:08:01 pm JaneBozarth: @chambo_online I HAVE that. So of course not what I’m craving…. #lrnchat
09:08:05 pm TriciaRansom: Uh-oh, no Mt. Dew? What happened? RT @JaneBozarth: Suddenly craving ginger ale. Could someone run out and pick one up for me? Thx. #lrnchat
09:08:09 pm lrnchat: Q3) How do you isolate the effects training has (vs. other factors) on performance? How do data tell your story? #lrnchat
09:08:18 pm JaneBozarth: @sogarlene ElementK was acquired by Skillsoft. #lrnchat
09:08:24 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you isolate the effects training has (vs. other factors) on performance? How do data tell your story? #lrnchat
09:08:30 pm Nic_707: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you isolate the effects training has (vs. other factors) on performance? How do data tell your story? #lrnchat
09:08:37 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you isolate the effects training has (vs. other factors) on performance? How do data tell your story? #lrnchat
09:08:38 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you isolate the effects training has (vs. other factors) on performance? How do data tell your story? #lrnchat
09:08:40 pm sogarlene: @JaneBozarth I have a case of ginger ale. You can stop by and enjoy a refreshing beverage with sock monkey.
#lrnchat
09:08:47 pm JaneBozarth: RT @criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat I was a former mkt research guy, now a L&D guy. They are VERY similar (WIIFM). #lrnchat
09:09:03 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you isolate the effects training has (vs. other factors) on performance? How do data tell your story? #lrnchat
09:09:05 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you isolate the effects training has (vs. other factors) on performance? How do data tell your story? #lrnchat
09:09:06 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth how about some *real* ale (or at least Ginger Beer) #lrnchat
09:09:08 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) We don’t do that. Excited to learn how you guys do it in the “real world”! #lrnchat
09:09:23 pm JD_Dillon: Q3) Isolation of training impact requires full business buy-in, often hard to get when the org is in flux 365/year. #lrnchat
09:09:29 pm ExpertusONE: Q2) If u want me to up perform don’t “deliver” training to me. Offer paths to learn, discover & apply individually or collectively #lrnchat
09:09:34 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you isolate the effects training has (vs. other factors) on performance? How do data tell your story? #lrnchat
09:09:45 pm ThomasStone: @sogarlene Element K was previously Ziff Davis Education, in the late 90s. Big news Friday was SkillSoft buying for $110m from NIIT #lrnchat
09:10:06 pm criticallearner: @JaneBozarth @sogarlene “I have a case of ginger ale”- is that an ailment or an inventory? #lrnchat
09:10:08 pm JaneBozarth: I simply cannot wait to hear the answers to this one, ye who believe in the ROI Unicorn. #lrnchat
09:10:17 pm Quinnovator: q3) getting all researchy and stuff: compare ‘trained’ group’s performance with control group #lrnchat
09:10:36 pm chambo_online: Q3) Data tell the story with Infographics! No wait, with Infoposters! No wait, with pictograms! #lrnchat
09:10:39 pm ReubenTozman: q3) bwahahaha #lrnchat
09:10:42 pm JD_Dillon: Q3) Alignment of improved performance and training is good. Isolation of improvement metrics with training is GREAT! #lrnchat
09:11:07 pm Quinnovator: @JaneBozarth she said “ROI”, but she’s only drinking Ginger Ale, where’s the fun in that? #drinkinggame #lrnchat
09:11:14 pm nancyrubin: The Importance And ROI Of Employee Training And Development: http://t.co/CL1Sz87t #lrnchat
09:11:21 pm JaneBozarth: @JD_Dillon and so how do you do it? #lrnchat
09:11:23 pm TheAirton: Q3) If the Company stays on a path longer than a day… well I wouldn’t what that is. #lrnchat
09:11:25 pm TriciaRansom: RT @chambo_online: Q3) Data tell the story with Infographics! No wait, with Infoposters! No wait, with pictograms! #lrnchat
09:11:32 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator am not. said I don’t have any. #lrnchat
09:11:32 pm LnDDave: Q3) Isolating effects is labor intensive, and it’s credibility is suspect at best. Proceed with caution… #lrnchat
09:11:41 pm criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat a. ASK! b. control groups or pre/post c. discuss method with stakeholders and “experts” and d. realize it’s not a perf science
09:11:50 pm ThomasStone: Q3) Easy to do in controlled/simplistic circumstances. In most real-life scenarios, it is difficult. So many co-founding factors. #lrnchat
09:11:56 pm JaneBozarth: Has there been a single answer yet to Q3? #lrnchat
09:12:05 pm JD_Dillon: Q3) As @Quinnovator said, you just need to ask the employee “what helped you improve?” #lrnchat
09:12:30 pm TheAirton: RT @reubentozman: q3) bwahahaha #lrnchat
09:12:38 pm JaneBozarth: Hard to RT what @thomasstone just said w/o losing meaning. What he said. #lrnchat
09:12:41 pm Quinnovator: q3) it’s in the alignment: (the ‘K’ word) had it right: start with biz impact and work backward to intervention, then work forward #lrnchat
09:12:52 pm urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you isolate the effects training has (vs. other factors) on performance? How do data tell your story? #lrnchat
09:13:03 pm ThomasStone: Q3) If you have a *major* training/etc. push, and no other obvious factors change, and you see major ++, then can be attributed. #lrnchat
09:13:16 pm JD_Dillon: @JaneBozarth – Still working on that in my org, constant moving target. #lrnchat
09:13:19 pm sogarlene: @criticallearner LOL I love a good word play! trainers are so witty! #lrnchat
09:13:26 pm chambo_online: @LnDDave It’s not hard…you put a big yellow circle around the diagram you want to emphasize and a blinky arrow. #lrnchat
09:13:33 pm TheAirton: Can someone help me understand how or why ROI is important or measured in what we do? #lrnchat
09:13:42 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) But can we really isolate ourselves from the larger whole? Training should be part of an organic/organized effort, not alone. #lrnchat
09:13:42 pm Quinnovator: @JD_Dillon ? that’s not what I said. Asking might be triangulation, but not only data point #lrnchat (pulling my leg?)
09:13:47 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat Q3> biz runs on fuzzy estimates always- sales forecasts, customer data. The fact training data won’t be 100% right is A-OK
09:14:25 pm JD_Dillon: @Quinnovator – agreed, part of the evaluation puzzle #lrnchat
09:14:49 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q3. we perform accreditation on the components of training and benchmark against similar groups that do not; we share using so-me
09:14:50 pm SocialCatalysts: RT @nancyrubin: The Importance And ROI Of Employee Training And Development: http://t.co/CL1Sz87t #lrnchat
09:15:03 pm criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat since biz runs on estimates, work with execs to get trusted estimators to help, be honest when presenting about guesstimates
09:15:09 pm JaneBozarth: Someone please take the nonanswers to Q3 and give me some lofty platitudes about ROI now. 1-2-3 go! #lrnchat
09:15:28 pm ExpertusONE: @criticallearner: Ask = Good pt. Once upon a time mktg perf measurement was an oxymoron. You start where you can & build #lrnchat
09:15:46 pm sogarlene: Q3) Oy, isolating training impact from all else is a challenge unless of course the impact is bad, then it is training’s fault, eh? #lrnchat
09:15:53 pm LnDDave: Q3) I find isolation unnecessary; usually correlation between matching performance objectives and outcomes is enough. #lrnchat
09:16:01 pm ThomasStone: Q3) My preference is for strong anecdotes/stories/explanations to prove value of L&D initiatives. Can be far more meaningful. #lrnchat
09:16:08 pm Quinnovator: @TheAirton well yes, but it’ll take a weeklong workshop at $50K. Or forget about ROI and worry about impacting performance
#lrnchat
09:16:19 pm JaneBozarth: Don’t forget to divide by the square root of rainbows. #lrnchat
09:16:39 pm 4KM: @LnDDave I’m having a moment of deja vu
#lrnchat
09:16:46 pm criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat Folks said learning the new way cut time by more than half (some training, some process improvement, but high value)
09:16:51 pm chambo_online: RT @sogarlene: Q3) unless of course the impact is bad, then it is trainings fault, eh?—>the truth is spoken there… #lrnchat
09:16:55 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: Don’t forget to divide by the square root of rainbows. #lrnchat < the unicorn speaks!
09:16:58 pm chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you isolate the effects training has (vs. other factors) on performance? How do data tell your story? #lrnchat
09:17:14 pm criticallearner: RT @lnddave: Q3) I find isolation unnecessary; usually correlation between matching performance objectives and outcomes is enough. #lrnchat
09:17:19 pm LnDDave: @4KM The second #lrnchat sesion always has a bit of that. ![]()
09:17:29 pm chambo_online: RT @JaneBozarth: Dont forget to divide by the square root of rainbows. #lrnchat
09:17:41 pm ExpertusONE: Anything is better than # burgers served!
RT @ThomasStone: Q3) My preference is for strong anecdotes… #lrnchat
09:17:44 pm kelly_smith01: Sorry so late to #lrnchat busy writing a script and I used the term “ROI” in said script. ![]()
09:17:44 pm minutebio: RT @LnDDave: …isolation unnecessary; usually correlation btwn matching perf. objcts &outcomes engh | Seen work evn w banking excs #lrnchat
09:17:49 pm Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: @4KM The second #lrnchat sesion always has a bit of that.
< all over again
09:17:52 pm Nic_707: RT @JaneBozarth: Don’t forget to divide by the square root of rainbows. #lrnchat
09:17:56 pm TheAirton: @Quinnovator exactly my point… oy vey $50k… What can 37 cents get me? #lrnchat
09:18:05 pm sogarlene: Q3) if training acts as performance consultant then trainnig is responsible for engaging mgmt, perforamnce support… lines blur #lrnchat
09:18:24 pm Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: Sorry late to #lrnchat busy writing a script and I used term “ROI” in said script.
< that’s *definitely* a ‘drink’!
09:18:26 pm TriciaRansom: Q3) I think data can tell the story of improvement. But attributing the change solely to training…hmmm. #lrnchat
09:18:37 pm kelly_smith01: Also used the word “collaboration” in the script. #lrnchat
09:18:44 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat Q3> As for presenting, follow politic examples- concrete, personal stories resonate more than charts (chart is just the bkdrop)
09:18:50 pm jrandersoniii: The #lrnchat ers are not making any lasting relationship with the peddlers of Phillips ROI methodology – love people who eschew the kool aid
09:19:09 pm Quinnovator: @TheAirton read some blog posts on evaluation @jaycross, me, others #lrnchat
09:19:12 pm ExpertusONE: Haha! Welcome to ROI-eality
RT @kelly_smith01: Sorry so late to #lrnchat busy writing a script and I used the term “ROI” #lrnchat
09:19:20 pm chet_stevenson: Q3: Evaluate performance pre and post training… and determine if any factors have changed outside of training. #lrnchat
09:19:24 pm rjpanetti: Q3) i still like the reversal. Give them perf support, mobile mentor network, clear goals & objectives…then take it all away.
#lrnchat
09:19:40 pm JaneBozarth: @jrandersoniii There’s no such thing as ROI of most training, except maybe simple 1:1 don’t wreck the forklift #lrnchat
09:19:43 pm TriciaRansom: @criticallearner I like to have the data for the nay-sayers, but the stories for the personal oomph and emotional buy-in. #lrnchat
09:19:52 pm JaneBozarth: @jrandersoniii But the unicorn is so pretty! #lrnchat
09:20:17 pm minutebio: Q3) Anecdotal evidence seems to be more memorable than data. #lrnchat
09:20:26 pm sogarlene: Q3) @jrandersoniii My next class in my MS Ed is ROI. Anyone have a project for me? doh! #lrnchat
09:20:39 pm ExpertusONE: Q3) Yes – and never let the facts distort a good story
#lrnchat
09:20:46 pm TheAirton: Q3) Call me cynical..(actually Airton) but you train “JIm” how to sell X. Jim sells 15″X”. Who gets the credit? ROI was? #lrnchat
09:20:54 pm stevier: Q3) We ask our founding fathers to isolate data for us http://t.co/puIX6TjX #lrnchat
09:21:07 pm chambo_online: @chet_stevenson Don’t forget to factor in whether there was coffee and donuts. #changessuccessrates #lrnchat
09:21:13 pm criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat Tonights session: ROId rage.
09:21:15 pm kelly_smith01: So with ROI there is a methodology to the maddinglyology? #lrnchat
09:21:29 pm JaneBozarth: @sogarlene prove that there’s no such thing. #lrnchat
09:21:34 pm chambo_online: RT @criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat Tonights session: ROId rage. #lrnchat
09:21:43 pm JaneBozarth: @kelly_smith01 yes. and for lots of money I’ll tell you about it. #lrnchat
09:21:51 pm Quinnovator: q3) choose: $50K at 500%, or $100k at 300%, one has better ROI, other has bigger impact. Hello? #lrnchat
09:22:03 pm lrnchat: Q4) Who is responsible for performance improvement within your organization? Who should own it? #lrnchat
09:22:04 pm chet_stevenson: @chambo_online Of course… coffee and donuts.. motivational factors. #lrnchat
09:22:08 pm Quinnovator: RT @criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat Tonights session: ROId rage
09:22:08 pm TriciaRansom: where were you when I had a WHOLE SEMESTER on it?!?!?! RT @criticallearner: Q3> #lrnchat Tonights session: ROId rage. #lrnchat
09:22:15 pm TheAirton: Ever since I began using @JaneBozarth ROI formula (I added rainbows for padding) I got it figured out. Yes unicorns are pretty. #lrnchat
09:22:20 pm minutebio: RT @TheAirton: Call me cynical.. but you train “JIm” how 2 sell X. Jim sells 15″X”. Who gets credit? | Good economy may get credit #lrnchat
09:22:22 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q4) Who is responsible for performance improvement within your organization? Who should own it? #lrnchat
09:22:23 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q4) Who is responsible for performance improvement within your organization? Who should own it? #lrnchat
09:22:28 pm JaneBozarth: Q4) Who is responsible for performance improvement within your organization? Who should own it? #lrnchat
09:22:33 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q4) Who is responsible for performance improvement within your organization? Who should own it? #lrnchat
09:22:33 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q4) Who is responsible for performance improvement within your organization? Who should own it? #lrnchat
09:22:42 pm sogarlene: Q3) ROI is dollars cents, right? I suppose that translates to performance, but is the question tonight more practical than that? #lrnchat
09:22:46 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q4) Who is responsible for performance improvement within your organization? Who should own it? #lrnchat
09:22:50 pm JaneBozarth: q4 I am hoping for the day learners rise up and take what’s theirs. #lrnchat
09:22:52 pm JD_Dillon: Q3) Is the time/effort/money measuring ROI worth it if you can subjectively attest to at least cursory improvement? #lrnchat
09:22:53 pm chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Q4) Who is responsible for performance improvement within your organization? Who should own it? #lrnchat
09:22:55 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) Everyone should own performance improvement. Every person should strive to constantly improve. #lrnchat
09:23:18 pm kelly_smith01: Every time I type ROI I stop an make imaginary quote marks with my fingers. #lrnchat
09:23:21 pm Nic_707: RT @lrnchat: Q4) Who is responsible for performance improvement within your organization? Who should own it? #lrnchat
09:23:22 pm JaneBozarth: @JD_Dillon no #lrnchat
09:23:23 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) RIght now, training and HR. Who should be? Everyone wearing a company ID. #lrnchat
09:23:27 pm Quinnovator: q4) learning needs to own performance (trust IT to understand it?), build into org infrastructure like electricity/plumbing #lrnchat
09:23:34 pm Nic_707: RT @TriciaRansom: Q4) Everyone should own performance improvement. Every person should strive to constantly improve. #lrnchat
09:23:36 pm chet_stevenson: Training dept is responsible for facilitating performance improvement… but everyone owns it. #lrnchat
09:23:47 pm JaneBozarth: RT @TheAirton: since I began using @JaneBozarth ROI formula I got it figured out. Yes unicorns are pretty. #lrnchat
09:23:50 pm ExpertusONE: Q4) Not sure who SHOULD own it, but in today’s climate if there IS perf improvement, everyone’s scrambling to claim some of the pie #lrnchat
09:24:16 pm minutebio: Q4) If there is performance improvement, training likes 2 get credit. If not, well…
#lrnchat
09:24:23 pm mollybob: everyone should be responsible for perf. improvemt, fostered as part of org. culture. championed by leadership and mmt #lrnchat
09:24:25 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: q4 I am hoping for the day learners rise up and take what’s theirs #lrnchat < self-effective learners FTW!
09:24:26 pm nancyrubin: Have to run – thanks for the conversation #lrnchat – see you next week. ![]()
09:24:29 pm criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat each individual is responsible for his/her own performance, career, development, life- we just provide the environment/opp.
09:24:44 pm JaneBozarth: RT @kelly_smith01: Every time I type ROI I stop an make imaginary quote marks with my fingers. #lrnchat
09:24:53 pm minutebio: RT @chet_stevenson: Training responsible for facilitating performance improvemnt… but everyone owns it. | Yes, including learners #lrnchat
09:24:59 pm KoreenOlbrish: Who is that so thoughtful? @edwsonoma? @stevier: Q3) We ask our founding fathers to isolate data for us http://t.co/V8mysufP #lrnchat
09:25:05 pm chambo_online: @Quinnovator @janebozart #occupylearning? #lrnchat
09:25:20 pm bonnieendicott: RT @lrnchat: Q4) Who is responsible for performance improvement within your organization? Who should own it? #lrnchat
09:25:21 pm cammybean: Q4) every single body should own it. #occupyperformance #lrnchat
09:25:22 pm minutebio: RT @criticallearner: individual is responsible for his/her own performance, career, development, life- we provide environment/opp. #lrnchat
09:25:24 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) If there is improvement, it’s a direct result of my courses. If there isn’t, I blame management.
#lrnchat
09:25:29 pm sogarlene: @JaneBozarth “prove that there is no such thing” might be an interesting approach to the class. geez! too funny #lrnchat
09:25:31 pm Quinnovator: RT @mollybob: everyone should be responsible for perf. imprvmt, fostered as part of org. culture. championed by leadership #lrnchat
09:25:53 pm chambo_online: RT @cammybean: Q4) every single body should own it. #occupyperformance #lrnchat
09:25:57 pm TheAirton: Q4) If you get a paycheck from that place, you own it. #lrnchat
09:25:58 pm minutebio: RT @TriciaRansom: Q4) If there is improvement, its a direct result of my courses. If there isnt, I blame management.
#lrnchat
09:26:07 pm criticallearner: RT @chambo_online: @Quinnovator @janebozart #occupylearning? #lrnchat > you beat me to it!
09:26:09 pm chet_stevenson: @minutebio especially learners #lrnchat
09:26:12 pm urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q4) Who is responsible for performance improvement within your organization? Who should own it? #lrnchat
09:26:21 pm JaneBozarth: @sogarlene especially since there isn’t . #lrnchat
09:26:22 pm Quinnovator: q4) would like leadership to take ownership: learn out loud, champion meta-learning, create a collaborative culture #lrnchat
09:26:33 pm cammybean: Every time someone says ROI, an angel gets its wings. @JaneBozarth @kelly_smith01 #lrnchat
09:26:39 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) A new employee should understand who is going to be there to help them succeed from day 1 in a learning culture. #lrnchat
09:26:51 pm kelly_smith01: I’m writing a new book “ROI by Objectives” #lrnchat
09:26:51 pm criticallearner: RT @theairton: Q4) If you get a paycheck from that place, you own it. #lrnchat
09:26:51 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q4 we (everyone) owns performance improvement .. it actually falls on a separate group .. but they matrix in to every dept.
09:27:00 pm chambo_online: RT @cammybean: Every time someone says ROI, an angel gets its wings. @JaneBozarth @kelly_smith01 #lrnchat
09:27:06 pm briandusablon: RT @Quinnovator: RT @mollybob: everyone should be responsible for perf. imprvmt, fostered as part of org. culture. championed by leadership #lrnchat
09:27:07 pm TriciaRansom: Q4) Ideally there is complete alignment w/in org around performance that obliterates silos, turf-wars, agendas, etc. #lrnchat
09:27:15 pm sogarlene: Q3 or whatever inspired the ROI posts… even Phillips says only a small percentage of classes-5% maybe-warrant ROI evaluation. #lrnchat
09:27:17 pm TriciaRansom: RT @cammybean: Every time someone says ROI, an angel gets its wings. @JaneBozarth @kelly_smith01 #lrnchat
09:27:24 pm JaneBozarth: RT @kelly_smith01: Im writing a new book “ROI by Objectives” #lrnchat
09:27:28 pm bonnieendicott: RT @mollybob: everyone is responsible for perf. improvemt, fostered as part of org. culture. championed by leadership #lrnchat <–Agree!
09:27:30 pm minutebio: Q4) Good managers, especially those that reinforce training, should get lots of credit. #lrnchat
09:27:35 pm JD_Dillon: @criticallearner @theairton – What about direct deposit? Does that get me a pass? #lrnchat
09:27:38 pm stevier: Q4) Who’s responsible for performance improvement? They are! http://t.co/jSKgrOJw #lrnchat
09:27:45 pm chambo_online: @cammybean Here I thought a bell rang and my dogs mouth started watering RE: people saying ROI #lrnchat
09:27:59 pm LnDDave: Q4) HT @aaronesilvers: If performance improvement is an event, no one owns it; If it’s continuous, its cultural and everyone does #lrnchat
09:28:05 pm cammybean: RT @Quinnovator: q4) would like leadership to take ownership: learn out loud, champion meta-learning, create a collaborative culture #lrnchat
09:28:19 pm kelly_smith01: Everytime someone believes in ROI a puppy has an “accident” on a white shag carpet. #lrnchat
09:28:23 pm Quinnovator: q4) the *org* needs to own performance improvement #lrnchat
09:28:26 pm JaneBozarth: @chambo_online ROI is great, except for that part where we can’t answer Q3. oops. #lrnchat
09:28:37 pm Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: Everytime someone believes in ROI a puppy has an “accident” on a white shag carpet. #lrnchat < LOL
09:28:40 pm LnDDave: RT @JaneBozarth: @chambo_online ROI is great, except for that part where we can’t answer Q3. oops. #lrnchat
09:28:40 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: @chambo_online ROI is great, except for that part where we can’t answer Q3. oops. #lrnchat
09:28:42 pm JaneBozarth: Please not my puppy RT @kelly_smith01: Everytime someone believes in ROI a puppy has an “accident” on a white shag carpet. #lrnchat
09:29:06 pm criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat each person is responsible, but the impact management/leadership has on valuing the right performance is key #udoneyourtpsforms
09:29:22 pm ExpertusONE: Q4) Right. Why should it be a zero-sum game? This is where training can be a hero, by generating inclusive win-win outcomes for all #lrnchat
09:29:27 pm sogarlene: Q4) it takes a community In my experience training has opportunity to drive a collaborative approach to performance improvement. #lrnchat
09:29:28 pm serenacheong: RT @thomasstone: In orgs that truly live the 70/20/10 thing, then I’d say the biggest group that helps performance is “peers”. #lrnchat
09:29:34 pm kelly_smith01: @JaneBozarth It’s his puppy if that happens. #lrnchat
09:29:42 pm serenacheong: RT @lnddave: Q2) If your managers are not supporting performance improvement, than performance is likely not improving. #lrnchat
09:29:44 pm TheAirton: @jd_dillon Oh that’s just quaint. #lrnchat
09:29:47 pm TriciaRansom: Trying to explain the ROI humor to my husband, and he’s not getting it. Does that mean I’m an L&D nerd? #lrnchat
09:29:53 pm JaneBozarth: I’m thinkin’ maybe managers could manage… #lrnchat
09:29:59 pm JaneBozarth: @kelly_smith01 true #lrnchat
09:30:11 pm cammybean: @JaneBozarth @kelly_smith01 that’s what puppy school is for, right? #lrnchat
09:30:20 pm bschlenker: ‚Äú@kelly_smith01: Everytime someone believes in ROI a puppy has an “accident” on a white shag carpet. #lrnchat‚Äù <ROFL!
09:30:28 pm Quinnovator: @TriciaRansom um, yes (and say hi) #lrnchat
09:30:31 pm JaneBozarth: @TriciaRansom no, it means if you still see the humor that there’s still time to save you #lrnchat
09:30:32 pm minutebio: RT @TriciaRansom: Trying to explain ROI humor to husband, and hes not getting it. Does that mean Im an L&D nerd? | Sorry, yes #lrnchat
09:30:46 pm ThomasStone: Q4) The guy with the red stapler, in cubicle 23-D. #lrnchat
09:30:54 pm criticallearner: @triciaransom with you! My wife don’t get the whole #lrnchat thing.
09:31:08 pm sogarlene: Q4) @JaneBozarth “I’m thinkin’ maybe managers could manage” but we first have to train managers, eh? chicken and egg #lrnchat
09:31:30 pm criticallearner: RT @cammybean: @JaneBozarth @kelly_smith01 that’s what puppy school is for, right? #lrnchat > ROI of pup school = carpetcleansavings
09:31:31 pm TriciaRansom: @criticallearner He just leaves the room every Thursday evening. Poor guy…but he tries! #lrnchat
09:31:45 pm Quinnovator: @sogarlene @JaneBozarth new definition of manage: “support” #lrnchat
09:31:54 pm JaneBozarth: RT @ThomasStone: Q4) The guy with the red stapler, in cubicle 23-D. #lrnchat
09:31:59 pm jmarrapodi: Bummed to be missing #lrnchat. Slammed. Does anyone know what happened to the copy button in @Jing? Gone AWOL. Not there.
09:32:13 pm TriciaRansom: @Quinnovator He says “hi”! #lrnchat
09:32:22 pm sogarlene: @triciaransom “does that mean I’m an L&D nerd” YES!!!!! Join the club! Wait, your doing lrnchat so you are already in! #lrnchat
09:32:31 pm JaneBozarth: @sogarlene Hey maybe we should hire people who are more suited to management? #lrnchat
09:32:34 pm JD_Dillon: @sogarlene @JaneBozarth – Novel idea: training managers b4 they become managers to be better managers. #lrnchat
09:32:41 pm koutropoulos: RT @JaneBozarth: Most training isn’t intended to have an impact on performance. It’s CYA. #lrnchat
09:32:56 pm JaneBozarth: An aside: How much training is really due to bad hiring? #lrnchat
09:33:07 pm TheAirton: Success for T&D depends on the length of the “Learning Journey”. The longer the BETTER. ROI Esssplained #lrnchat
09:33:13 pm bonnieendicott: RT @janebozarth: @sogarlene Hey maybe we should hire people who are more suited to management? #lrnchat <– i vote leadership vs. mgmt
09:33:17 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: An aside: How much training is really due to bad hiring? #lrnchat < and how much hiring is due to bad training?
09:33:23 pm cammybean: @criticallearner @janebozarth @kelly_smith01 See? You made the dog do it again now! #lrnchat
09:33:27 pm TriciaRansom: Vote is in…apparently I am an L&D nerd! #lrnchat
09:33:35 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: Most training isn’t intended to have an impact on performance. It’s CYA. #lrnchat (and a way for some to make $$$)
09:33:35 pm billcush: Jumping into #lrnchat mid-stream is like jumping into that two-rope jump-rope thing…
09:33:42 pm LnDDave: RT @JaneBozarth: An aside: How much training is really due to bad hiring? #lrnchat < Statistically? Way to @#$^ing much.
09:33:46 pm minutebio: RT @JaneBozarth: An aside: How much training is really due to bad hiring? | I have isolated the data & answer is TONS #lrnchat
09:33:47 pm chet_stevenson: RT @JaneBozarth: An aside: How much training is really due to bad hiring? | I’d like to see some research on this. #lrnchat
09:33:55 pm criticallearner: RT @janebozarth: An aside: How much training is really due to bad hiring? #lrnchat > 93.62% #madeup_but_feelsright
09:34:07 pm ThomasStone: Good question. Answer = 63%. RT @JaneBozarth: An aside: How much training is really due to bad hiring? #lrnchat
09:34:22 pm TriciaRansom: I can do an ROI on that for you… RT @JaneBozarth: An aside: How much training is really due to bad hiring? #lrnchat
09:34:28 pm sogarlene: @JaneBozarth “maybe we should hire people who are more suited to management” direct hit!
OK, so we train HR fist? doh! #lrnchat
09:34:38 pm ExpertusONE: @ExpertusONE: Speaking of mgrs – some outside of learning orgs live & die by their ROI metrics. Is it bad to speak their language? #lrnchat
09:34:39 pm JD_Dillon: @bonnieendicott – Agreed! The best know when to lead and when to manage. #lrnchat
09:34:53 pm huiwana: Hi y’all #lrnchat, just joined. Are you at Q4 or all done?
09:35:16 pm JaneBozarth: @sogarlene We should FOR SURE hire better people there. #lrnchat
09:35:30 pm TheAirton: 68% of statistics are made 32% of the time @criticallearner #lrnchat
09:35:30 pm LnDDave: @ExpertusONE Speaking the language is OK. It helps you educate them on what REALLY matters. #lrnchat
09:35:47 pm criticallearner: RT @sogarlene: @JaneBozarth “maybe we hire people who are more suited to mgnt” OK, so we train HR fist? doh! #lrnchat >in a tailspin!
09:36:03 pm lrnchat: Q5) What incentives are there for individuals to improve performance? What about teams/groups? #lrnchat
09:36:07 pm JaneBozarth: Just FYI: it’s a fun game, but you will never convince me that the answer is always “training”. #lrnchat
09:36:12 pm ReubenTozman: Sorry was chatting with @edcetrat. Did anybody answer q3? #lrnchat
09:36:12 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What incentives are there for individuals to improve performance? What about teams/groups? #lrnchat
09:36:18 pm ExpertusONE: Now THAT’s a helpful Q RT @ThomasStone: Good Q. A = 63%. RT @JaneBozarth: An aside: How much training is really due to bad hiring? #lrnchat
09:36:20 pm chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What incentives are there for individuals to improve performance? What about teams/groups? #lrnchat
09:36:23 pm criticallearner: RT @theairton: 68% of statistics are made 32% of the time @criticallearner #lrnchat > but we are only 46% sure of that.
09:36:24 pm JaneBozarth: @criticallearner lol. #lrnchat
09:36:25 pm LnDDave: I’m kinda amazed at the combination of poor hiring and record unemployment. #lrnchat
09:36:30 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What incentives are there for individuals to improve performance? What about teams/groups? #lrnchat
09:36:33 pm JaneBozarth: Q5) What incentives are there for individuals to improve performance? What about teams/groups? #lrnchat
09:36:43 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What incentives are there for individuals to improve performance? What about teams/groups? #lrnchat
09:36:47 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What incentives are there for individuals to improve performance? What about teams/groups? #lrnchat
09:36:52 pm ThomasStone: In all seriousness @JaneBozarth, for many reasons I think we will continue to see an increase in legit hire-then-train approaches. #lrnchat
09:36:55 pm chambo_online: RT @ReubenTozman: Sorry was chatting with @edcetrat. Did anybody answer q3? #lrnchat
09:36:57 pm criticallearner: RT @reubentozman: Sorry was chatting with @edcetrat. Did anybody answer q3? #lrnchat
09:36:58 pm huiwana: #lrnchat Q5) The good employees would be intrinsic motivation plus perhaps a little monetary and recognition
09:37:03 pm JaneBozarth: @ReubenTozman no. no one answered q3, but then some kept saying ROI was real. I got confused and asked for a ginger ale. #lrnchat
09:37:04 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: Just FYI: it’s a fun game, but you will never convince me that the answer is always “training” #lrnchat < mug’s game
09:37:14 pm minutebio: Q5) Recognition, promotion, respect… #lrnchat
09:37:15 pm chet_stevenson: There are models that apply the Behavioral Engineering Model to teams. Incenting teams just as important as individuals. #lrnchat
09:37:18 pm billcush: Figures never lie, but liars sure can figure.RT @theairton: 68% of statistics are made 32% of the time @criticallearner #lrnchat
09:37:24 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone oh i think so too. I just wonder if maybe we shouldn’t do more and better training on hiring… #lrnchat
09:37:24 pm TriciaRansom: Q5) In my experience, ppl w/improved performance get increased workloads… #lrnchat
09:37:27 pm LnDDave: Q5) If you don’t improve you’re standing still and therefore falling behind. That’s all the incentive I need. #lrnchat
09:37:30 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What incentives are there for individuals to improve performance? What about teams/groups? #lrnchat
09:37:36 pm ThomasStone: I say this @JaneBozarth because even with high unemployment rate in my areas, there are serious skill gaps for many orgs. #lrnchat
09:37:44 pm criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Relevance.
09:37:44 pm Quinnovator: q5) internal, and the ones we put in place #lrnchat
09:37:48 pm huiwana: @TriciaRansom Haha, almost sounds like a negative reward, rite? #lrnchat
09:37:55 pm TheAirton: I think the fact work with adults counts for something when creating learning…right? #lrnchat
09:37:56 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: q5) internal, and the ones we put in place #lrnchat
09:38:03 pm JaneBozarth: no. RT @reubentozman: Sorry was chatting with @edcetrat. Did anybody answer q3? #lrnchat
09:38:04 pm JD_Dillon: Q5) An org should be structured to motivate employee performance improvement w/ professional growth, not just COLAs. #lrnchat
09:38:09 pm TriciaRansom: @huiwana Exactly! #lrnchat
09:38:13 pm brainysmurf1234: RT @Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: An aside: How much training is really due to bad hiring? #lrnchat < and how much hiring is due to bad training?
09:38:17 pm Nic_707: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What incentives are there for individuals to improve performance? What about teams/groups? #lrnchat
09:38:29 pm ThomasStone: So we hire for attitude and competencies, and then train for the skills and job specifics. Trend likely to grow. #lrnchat
09:38:30 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone I don’t disagree. Was responding to someone else– #lrnchat
09:38:45 pm TriciaRansom: @JD_Dillon What’s a COLA? #lrnchat
09:38:50 pm huiwana: @TriciaRansom Then there’s the ‘Learn to say no’ and ‘Manage your boss’ trainings to go of course! #lrnchat
09:38:53 pm JaneBozarth: No. Yet they still say ROI is real. RT @reubentozman: Sorry was chatting with @edcetrat. Did anybody answer q3? #lrnchat
09:39:02 pm kelly_smith01: I work interdependently and must create by own incentives #lrnchat
09:39:06 pm criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Sometimes the carrot, sometimes the stick
09:39:06 pm brainysmurf1234: RT @Quinnovator: q4) would like leadership to take ownership: learn out loud, champion meta-learning, create a collaborative culture #lrnchat
09:39:07 pm billcush: Q5) Objective goals and merit system. Those how improve performance the most….get the most “whatever..” #lrnchat
09:39:14 pm TriciaRansom: @huiwana See, you get it…job security for us, right? #lrnchat
09:39:33 pm huiwana: @TriciaRansom Totally! #lrnchat
09:39:44 pm TheAirton: Q5) In this economy most are motivated just to keep a job. #lrnchat
09:39:45 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone if we only WOULD hire for those things. Not, “Oh, you went to UNC too?” and “You think you’d like to work here?” #lrnchat
09:39:46 pm ReubenTozman: q5) Should there be incentives? Don’t we hire people to perform. What about ‘You can come to work tomorrow’… #lrnchat
09:40:09 pm sogarlene: q4) thinking of Thomas Gilbert… capacity, motivation, incentive… Most performance problems aren’t training issues only KSAs. #lrnchat
09:40:12 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone i once asked new hires to tell me about their job interviews. They said they really didn’t talk. #lrnchat
09:40:14 pm kelly_smith01: Is “ROI for Dummies” a book with a yellow cover or a statement? #lrnchat
09:40:15 pm chambo_online: Good work is it’s own reward? In this economy that seems to be it. #lrnchat
09:40:19 pm billcush: Yes…internal incentive is best motivator. RT @quinnovator: q5) internal, and the ones we put in place #lrnchat
09:40:27 pm brainysmurf1234: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Has your training department had an impact on performance? How do you show it? #lrnchat
09:40:29 pm Quinnovator: q5) epistemological shift (that’s *got* to be a ‘drink’), but learners need to understand *their* role in learning #lrnchat
09:40:37 pm criticallearner: RT @theairton: Q5) In this economy most are motivated just to keep a job. #lrnchat > what happens when that changes?
09:40:38 pm LnDDave: Q5) Job Security? #lrnchat
09:40:43 pm huiwana: I’ve got the opportunity to work w/ some very smart &motivated people so I see lots intrinsic motivation in performance improvement #lrnchat
09:40:54 pm Nic_707: RT @criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Sometimes the carrot, sometimes the stick
09:40:56 pm kelly_smith01: RT @sogarlene: q4) thinking of Thomas Gilbert… =… Most performance problems aren’t training issues only KSAs. #lrnchat
09:40:56 pm chet_stevenson: Q5) When I think of incentives, I also think of motivation… see Dan Pink #lrnchat
09:41:03 pm brainysmurf1234: hey #change11 have you heard of #lrnchat?
09:41:16 pm TheAirton: But it don’t pay rent RT @chambo_online: Good work is it’s own reward? In this economy that seems to be it. #lrnchat
09:41:20 pm edCetraT: q5) i think in today’s world.. it’s show me the money..i’ll learn. i’ll perform. show me more, i’ll exceed your expectations. maybe #lrnchat
09:41:24 pm chambo_online: RT @chet_stevenson: Q5) When I think of incentives, I also think of motivation… see Dan Pink #lrnchat
09:41:31 pm huiwana: #lrnchat Q5) A good mentor helps a lot in this day where one can lose focus with the abundance of info and (often many) things to do
09:41:32 pm LnDDave: Q5) Unfortunately, in many orgs performance improvement is addressed in terms of failure after the fact. #lrnchat
09:41:35 pm cammybean: #lrnchat q5) in this economy the incentive to improve may be to simply keep your job.
09:41:36 pm chet_stevenson: Q5) Move from “If, then” incentives to “Now That” incentives. #lrnchat
09:41:39 pm ReubenTozman: q5) Is there an ROI when you provide incentives? #lrnchat
09:41:44 pm Quinnovator: @reubentozman that works if it’s “we’re doing really cool, er, stuff, and don’t you want to continue to play?” #lrnchat
09:41:58 pm ThomasStone: @JaneBozarth Training on hiring is one way; another is connect talent profiles from all-stars to recruiting process to hire similar #lrnchat
09:42:02 pm JD_Dillon: Q5) Can employees perform to their potentials if their primary motivation is avoiding termination? Or will they find shortcuts? #lrnchat
09:42:35 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone Tom: I don’t disagree. #lrnchat
09:42:35 pm TheAirton: @criticallearner: #lrnchat > what happens when that changes? Then they work on “passion” … r
09:42:48 pm JaneBozarth: RT @ReubenTozman: q5) Is there an ROI when you provide incentives? #lrnchat
09:43:01 pm TriciaRansom: Gotta hop off early. This is Tricia in the frozen tundra of Chicago saying thanks for the convo! And hubby says to tell you guys hi #lrnchat
09:43:04 pm chet_stevenson: @ReubenTozman q5) Is there an ROI when you provide incentives? | Should you calculate ROI for incentives? what about ROE instead? #lrnchat
09:43:16 pm cammybean: #lrnchat q5) Institutionalized stagnation may prevent lots from trying to improve at all. The bureaucracy must persist!
09:43:28 pm Quinnovator: @reubentozman does recognition count as an incentive? #lrnchat
09:43:38 pm minutebio: RT @cammybean: in this economy incentive to improve may be to simply keep your job. | Or 2 help your org & economy improve & grow #lrnchat
09:43:39 pm huiwana: #lrnchat @ReubenTozman I would say incentive shouldn’t be seen as a cost to get performance, but it can be powerful as a bonus or surprise
09:43:40 pm criticallearner: RT @jd_dillon: Q5) Can employees perform to potential if primary motivation is avoiding termination? Or will they find shortcuts? #lrnchat
09:43:48 pm JaneBozarth: Peformance gets punished all the time, y’all. #lrnchat
09:43:50 pm TriciaRansom: RT @cammybean: #lrnchat q5) Institutionalized stagnation may prevent lots from trying to improve at all. Bureaucracy must persist! #lrnchat
09:44:07 pm ThomasStone: I know… sorry, I’m behind on the tweetstream tonight RT @JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone Tom: I don’t disagree. #lrnchat
09:44:08 pm criticallearner: RT @cammybean: #lrnchat q5) Institutionalized stagnation may prevent lots from trying to improve at all. The bureaucracy must persist!
09:44:09 pm LnDDave: Q5) One incentive to improve performance would be a boss who does not look at it as a threat. #lrnchat
09:44:17 pm criticallearner: RT @quinnovator: @reubentozman does recognition count as an incentive? #lrnchat > Does in my book!
09:44:18 pm ReubenTozman: @Quinnovator yeah – I’m not an HR guy. I know that as an employer, I expect performance. Yes – recognition is an incentive #lrnchat
09:44:25 pm kelly_smith01: RT @LnDDave: Q5) One incentive to improve performance would be a boss who does not look at it as a threat. #lrnchat
09:44:29 pm huiwana: @triciaransom @JaneBozarth #lrnchat like getting more work, rite?
09:44:38 pm cammybean: @Quinnovator @reubentozman doesn’t applause count as extrinsic motivation? Is that the same as incentive? #lrnchat
09:44:46 pm Quinnovator: @edCetraT don’t think it’s just money; Pink cites: autonomy, mastery, sense of purpose #lrnchat
09:44:55 pm billcush: It can happen! RT @huiwana: I;ve worked w/ very smart&motivated people..see lots intrinsic motivation in performance improvement #lrnchat
09:45:14 pm kelly_smith01: Sometimes performance is a threat to the organization. #lrnchat
09:45:16 pm TheAirton: Q5) Once financial gains have been removed they will find a “way” @JD_Dillon #lrnchat
09:45:30 pm ReubenTozman: @Quinnovator I think non recognition is more a factor than recognition #lrnchat
09:45:32 pm billcush: Nice! RT @lnddave: Q5) One incentive to improve performance would be a boss who does not look at it as a threat. #lrnchat
09:45:32 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: Peformance gets punished all the time, y’all. #lrnchat
09:45:34 pm Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: Q5) One incentive to improve performance would be a boss who does not look at it as a threat. #lrnchat
09:45:43 pm criticallearner: Q5) #lrnchat major incentive to improve performance is building a trustbank for more autonomy (Dan Pink motivators)
09:45:44 pm huiwana: @billcush #lrnchat yes, when I see them so enthusiastic, naturally I become influenced that way too. Team dynamics!
09:45:53 pm JaneBozarth: or the manager RT @kelly_smith01: Sometimes performance is a threat to the organization. #lrnchat
09:46:00 pm Quinnovator: RT @kelly_smith01: Sometimes performance is a threat to the organization. #lrnchat < broken org, eh?
09:46:03 pm JaneBozarth: RT @LnDDave: Q5) One incentive to improve performance would be a boss who does not look at it as a threat. #lrnchat
09:46:03 pm JD_Dillon: RT @criticallearner: Q5) #lrnchat major incentive to improve performance is building a trustbank for more autonomy (Dan Pink motivators)
09:46:09 pm billcush: You performed great, BUT you could have done better! RT @janebozarth: Peformance gets punished all the time, y’all. #lrnchat
09:46:10 pm TheAirton: Esssplain…? RT @kelly_smith01: Sometimes performance is a threat to the organization. #lrnchat
09:46:13 pm TriciaRansom: Q5) I’m hi-performer, get “privilege” of teaching others, xtra workload, etc. Hard to stay internally motivated. #lrnchat
09:46:17 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: or the manager RT @kelly_smith01: Sometimes performance is a threat to the organization. #lrnchat < broken manager
09:46:26 pm sogarlene: Q4) @quinnovator I like Dan Pink’s stuff. When someone can boil motivation down to three words, we have a shot and understanding. #lrnchat
09:46:30 pm cammybean: @ReubenTozman @quinnovator Ahh the power of disincentive. #lrnchat
09:46:37 pm huiwana: #lrnchat Q5) Taking a high level perspective, motivation is a choice.
09:46:38 pm minutebio: RT @TriciaRansom: Q5) Im hi-performer, get “privilege” of teaching others, xtra workload, etc. Hard to stay internally motivated. #lrnchat
09:46:41 pm JaneBozarth: RT @TriciaRansom: Q5) Im hi-performer, get “privilege” of teaching others, xtra workload, etc. Hard to stay internally motivated. #lrnchat
09:47:04 pm Quinnovator: @TriciaRansom sounds like my son at school “I do good, so I get *more* work?!?!” Sigh #lrnchat
09:47:11 pm chambo_online: *Automatic* incentives/rewards can decrease motivation (#drive). Unexpected appreciation or recognition can + motivation. #lrnchat
09:47:15 pm TriciaRansom: Q5) How many times hearing “Show-off…you’re making the rest of us look bad. Just wait till you’ve been here as long as us…” #lrnchat
09:47:25 pm JaneBozarth: @sogarlene i can boil motivation down to 2 words: “or else” . #lrnchat
09:47:35 pm ReubenTozman: @Quinnovator You’re all over this incentive stuff…hm.Srsly I expect perf because thats what we agreed to when u came to wrk 4 me #lrnchat
09:47:37 pm huiwana: @Quinnovator @TriciaRansom #lrnchat has your son learnt the ‘How to Say No’ trick?
09:47:43 pm TriciaRansom: @Quinnovator So how do you motivate that person? What’s the magic answer? #lrnchat
09:47:47 pm JD_Dillon: @huiwana – Recruiting needs to find intrinsically motivated people and the culture needs to maintain that mentality. #lrnchat
09:47:51 pm Quinnovator: @chambo_online ah, the partial reinforcement schedule, like gambling (ahem) #basicbehaviorism #lrnchat
09:47:52 pm cammybean: RT @chambo_online: *Automatic* incentives/rewards can decrease motivation (#drive). Unexpected appreciation or recognition can + motivation. #lrnchat
09:48:01 pm JaneBozarth: “Do it my way or watch your butt! I ain’t runnin no daisy farm.” ~Nathan Arizona #lrnchat
09:48:02 pm huiwana: @TriciaRansom #lrnchat I hate that one too… sour grapes!
09:48:18 pm chambo_online: @TriciaRansom – No good deed goes unpunished…I can relate #lrnchat
09:48:20 pm billcush: @huiwana High-energy, motivated performance begets high-energy motivated performance. Fuddy duddies stay away. #lrnchat
09:48:28 pm TriciaRansom: RT @JaneBozarth: “Do it my way or watch your butt! I aint runnin no daisy farm.” ~Nathan Arizona #lrnchat
09:48:29 pm huiwana: @JD_Dillon #lrnchat Agree that talent acquisition is very important.
09:48:31 pm Quinnovator: @huiwana learned the “how to get mom & dad to go to bat for me as educational instigators”
#lrnchat
09:48:40 pm cammybean: @chambo_online That’s why slot machines work – the unexpected ca-ching. #lrnchat
09:48:55 pm huiwana: #lrnchat @Quinnovator Hahaha!
09:49:07 pm TheAirton: @criticallearner: Q5) #lrnchat #autonomy can be seen as the enemy in most orgs (Dan Pink motivators)
09:49:22 pm billcush: Ugh! RT @triciaransom: Q5) ..Show-off…you’re making the rest of us look bad. Just wait till you’ve been here as long as us…” #lrnchat
09:49:27 pm kelly_smith01: Motivation may also come as “Hey, it’s not me (making you do this), it’s big boss. (indirect threat) #lrnchat
09:49:42 pm ReubenTozman: @Quinnovator not bcause there’s any other incentive. Bad HR policy I get it. But I took pride in what I did regardles the incentive #lrnchat
09:49:47 pm huiwana: #lrnchat @billcush right on!
09:49:54 pm chambo_online: @Quinnovator @cammybean RE: Vegas rewards—> you will remind me to leave my wallet in my hotel room while at #devlearn, right? #lrnchat
09:50:03 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Please reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs are welcome. #lrnchat
09:50:06 pm criticallearner: RT @theairton: Q5) #lrnchat #autonomy can be seen as the enemy in most orgs (Dan Pink motivators) > if ind and org aligned, shouldn’t be!
09:50:10 pm TriciaRansom: Q5) If I’m rewarded for my performance in 3rd quarter when perf reviews happen, how do you motivate me to perform rest of year? #lrnchat
09:50:12 pm Quinnovator: @TriciaRansom let’s calculate the ROI of that
seriously: meaningful work, opportunity to engage, support to excel #lrnchat
09:50:17 pm sogarlene: Q5) more work may be good. could be different work that is more aligned with the person’s strengths = a way to move up. #lrnchat
09:50:18 pm chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Please reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs are welcome. #lrnchat
09:50:32 pm ThomasStone: “Perhaps I can find new ways to motivate them.” – Darth Vader #lrnchat
09:50:45 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Please reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs are welcome. #lrnchat
09:50:53 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Please reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs are welcome. #lrnchat
09:51:00 pm Quinnovator: @reubentozman takes support to learn pride in work, process not mandate #lrnchat
09:51:03 pm TriciaRansom: muuu-waaa-haaa-haaa… RT @ThomasStone: “Perhaps I can find new ways to motivate them.” – Darth Vader #lrnchat
09:51:03 pm cammybean: RT @ThomasStone: “Perhaps I can find new ways to motivate them.” – Darth Vader #lrnchat
09:51:10 pm huiwana: @TriciaRansom #lrnchat It’s all in the records! You’re being watched, especially by your subordinates. Beware!
09:51:11 pm TheAirton: @criticallearner I agree and so do the most forward thinking companies. #lrnchat
09:51:19 pm chambo_online: RT @ThomasStone: “Perhaps I can find new ways to motivate them.” – Darth Vader #lrnchat
09:51:24 pm chet_stevenson: Chester Stevenson, Trainer/ID/eLearning, Instructional and Performance Technology Grad Student at Boise State University #lrnchat
09:51:37 pm kelly_smith01: RT @chambo_online: RT @ThomasStone: “Perhaps I can find new ways to motivate them.” – Darth Vader #lrnchat
09:51:37 pm billcush: “You’re a daisy if you do.” Doc Holliday. RT @janebozarth: “Do it my way r watch your butt! I ain’t runnin no daisy farm.”N.Arizona #lrnchat
09:51:43 pm ExpertusONE: RT @ThomasStone: “Perhaps I can find new ways to motivate them.” – Darth Vader #lrnchat
09:51:44 pm JaneBozarth: RT @cammybean: RT @ThomasStone: “Perhaps I can find new ways to motivate them.” – Darth Vader #lrnchat
09:51:49 pm JD_Dillon: RT @ThomasStone: “Perhaps I can find new ways to motivate them.” – Darth Vader #lrnchat
09:51:54 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Please reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs are welcome. #lrnchat
09:52:03 pm JaneBozarth: @billcush I’m your huckleberry. #lrnchat
09:52:13 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, learning experience design strategist, evil genius, consultant/author/speaker, genial malcontent #lrnchat
09:52:22 pm TriciaRansom: Is it over already? Really? This is Tricia, L&D nerd in Chicago, saying good night. My husband says bye too. #lrnchat
09:52:26 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat and that’s a wrap! David Glow, Tampa, FL
09:52:50 pm ReubenTozman: qwrap – 3 sessions at #DevLearn and check out #anan while your there. #lrnchat
09:52:50 pm huiwana: #lrnchat Qwrap) Huiwan Teh, L&D support giver, Singapore
09:53:19 pm ThomasStone: A great line from Tombstone — I use that all the time! RT @JaneBozarth: @billcush I’m your huckleberry. #lrnchat
09:53:23 pm cammybean: #lrnchat Qw) Cammy Bean with Kineo – always trying to improve, some days just managing to do my best. See you at #devlearn!
09:53:29 pm JaneBozarth: Qwrap: ruler of Planet Jane, keeping celebrities alive on Thursdays for over 2 years, font snob, potential offender, ROI Deny-er #lrnchat
09:53:40 pm criticallearner: Siri, what is the ROI of #lrnchat?
09:53:43 pm billcush: QWrap) Bill. Late-comer. Trainin’ guy peddlin’ my wares. Jjust tryin’ to change the way people learn at work. http://t.co/lRnA9wId #lrnchat
09:53:44 pm JD_Dillon: Thanks for the chat-o-learnin’ … Goodnight from Orlando. My cats say “meow” and “down with ROI.” #lrnchat
09:53:53 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, Freelancing in ID stuff #lrnchat
09:53:58 pm TheAirton: Airton, still in Orlando (Brazil beaches in 6 wks) , work with @JD_Dillon, Unicorns rule, but think of adding rainbows @JaneBozarth #lrnchat
09:54:17 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone there are so many– #lrnchat
09:54:20 pm Quinnovator: upcoming 1: mobile strategy workshop at DevLearn, author session at Learning 2011 hope to see you there! #lrnchat
09:54:46 pm ThomasStone: Qwrap) There are those who call me… Tom. Just your basic Enchanter from Rochester, NY. #lrnchat Good night all!
09:54:55 pm Quinnovator: upcoming 2: 2 DC workshops via local ASTD chapter, CSTD #lrnchat < hope to see you there
09:55:03 pm billcush: Ciao! RT @triciaransom: Is it over already? This is Tricia, L&D nerd in Chicago, saying good night. My husband says bye too. #lrnchat
09:55:08 pm JaneBozarth: Plug: do come say howdy at #DevLearn next month! #lrnchat
09:55:30 pm Quinnovator: and, of course, books on mobile designingmlearning.com, and serious game design engaginglearning.com #lrnchat
09:55:31 pm chambo_online: Lisa Chamberlin, learning maven, doxie wrangler, freelance ID, Walla Walla, WA Blogging on the Intranet @ #devlearn #lrnchat
09:55:43 pm TriciaRansom: @billcush Hope you’re doing well…going to Vegas next month? #lrnchat
09:55:46 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: Plug: do come say howdy at #DevLearn next month! #lrnchat < me (and lots more of us) too!
09:55:55 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman – eLearning Designer helping people improve performance and occasionally bringing danish #lrnchat
09:56:35 pm TriciaRansom: @ThomasStone Tim the Enchanter! Now I’ve got to watch that movie! #lrnchat
09:56:36 pm chambo_online: And quit laughing…Walla Walla is really a place…seriously. #lrnchat
09:56:45 pm ReubenTozman: I will be one of the dirty bikers at #devlearn wearing a patch. Be afraid…ok? #lrnchat
09:56:46 pm Quinnovator: thanks to all new and returning #lrnchat participants for another fun and interesting session
09:57:25 pm chambo_online: @ReubenTozman Geeks of Anarchy… #lrnchat
09:57:32 pm Quinnovator: RT @chambo_online: And quit laughing…Walla Walla is really a place…seriously. #lrnchat < yeah, and so is Wagga Wagga *snort* ![]()
09:57:49 pm huiwana: #lrnchat @chambo_online I believe you. I have a friend who graduated from University of Walla Walla.
09:58:21 pm chambo_online: @huiwana Woohoo – *proof of life* #lrnchat
09:58:22 pm ReubenTozman: Also some #devlearn speaker presentations will be available through #anan. Come and mix up slides and make your own presentations #lrnchat
09:58:30 pm TriciaRansom: I grew up in Champaign, pronounced champagne…RT @chambo_online: And quit laughing…Walla Walla is really a place…seriously. #lrnchat
09:58:51 pm ReubenTozman: RT @chambo_online: @ReubenTozman Geeks of Anarchy…you mean ‘bad ass of anarchy’ #lrnchat
09:59:03 pm lrnchat: Thanks for joining us. We’ll post the transcript on http://t.co/O8x38OGR See you again next Thursday. Stay classy, #lrnchat. ![]()
09:59:46 pm chambo_online: RT @ReubenTozman: Geeks of Anarchy…you mean bad ass of anarchy—>oh, er, uh yeah…*that’s* what I meant
#lrnchat
10:00:45 pm ExpertusONE: W/some serious onions!
KK Keeper of the Expertus flame Mtn View CA RT @chambo_online: quit laughing. Walla Walla is a place #lrnchat
Transcript 20 October 2011 (early)
October 21, 201104:30:46 pm lrnchat: Welcome to #lrnchat! How have you been?
04:30:48 pm LisaAGoldstein: RT @npmaven: Likely flurry of tweets to come – #Lrnchat is about to begin. Join in! #lrnchat
04:31:02 pm PaFitzpatrick: #lrnchat about to start
04:31:10 pm lrnchat: If you’re new to #lrnchat, how it works is explained here: http://t.co/4Lr208H4
04:32:03 pm lrnchat: Q0) Let’s get started w/ the #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? What have you learned this week?
04:32:09 pm alc47: Nic Laycock – Very busy but exciting week – lots of progress – getting excited for DevLearn #lrnchat
04:32:29 pm alc47: Do we have a topic for today? #lrnchat
04:32:41 pm OpenSesameNow: Ditto! RT @lisaagoldstein: RT @npmaven: Likely flurry of tweets to come – #Lrnchat is about to begin. Join in! #lrnchat
04:33:00 pm ckagy: Participating in #lrnchat. Hold on to your hats!
04:33:16 pm ckagy: RT @lrnchat: Q0) Let’s get started w/ the #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? What have you learned this week?
04:33:48 pm MimiBarbara: Participating in #lrnchat today. Flurry of tweets for a while.
#lrnchat
04:33:54 pm mdkemmler: Q0) Listening to Recording of Train for Success presentation by Randy Hinrichs re: new book – http://t.co/5993IhOj #lrnchat
04:34:03 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q0) Let’s get started w/ the #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? What have you learned this week?
04:34:26 pm aaronesilvers: @alc47 We’re talking about performance today #lrnchat
04:34:51 pm StephenCHudson: #lrnchat q0) This week I have learned that it is sometimes best to ask around. Rec from friend will save me $800 on insurance
04:34:55 pm ckagy: Q0) i’ve been learning about using games to converge on ideas after brainstorming #lrnchat
04:34:58 pm TriciaRansom: Its Thursday, so that means #lrnchat-a weekly discussion of learning and development. Pardon my tweets! If you wanna, come join us!
04:34:59 pm alc47: RT @aaronesilvers: @alc47 Were talking about performance today #lrnchat
04:35:02 pm PaFitzpatrick: Q0) I have learned that some org’s fear change, esp changes in elearning. But do the fear change more than improved performance? #lrnchat
04:35:16 pm LisaAGoldstein: Q0) I learned that there will be a #lrnchat tweetup at DevLearn11 during DemoFest. Look for the big screen showing #lrnchat feed #lrnchat
04:35:23 pm MimiBarbara: Q0) Learned I prefer the cooler weather. Hallelujah, Fall is finally arriving! #lrnchat
04:35:42 pm alc47: This week I have learned how much better Keynote is than Powerpoint #lrnchat
04:35:42 pm npmaven: Q0) I (re)learned the power of helping others define their learning needs.
Always like having that reinforced-& seeing results. #lrnchat
04:35:43 pm MimiBarbara: Q0) Learned doing a pilot really helps you work out the kinks. #lrnchat
04:35:54 pm JeffMerrell: RT @dpontefract: A follow-up to the digital natives post; “Introducing the Digital Learning Quadrants” http://t.co/ghRMkte6 #hr #lrnchat #edchat #leadership
04:36:09 pm TriciaRansom: Q0) I learned that a cold really can last for more than a week…and can be extraordinarily debilitating! #lrnchat
04:36:11 pm aaronesilvers: Q0) Remembering this week that no matter how strong my armor is, some topics find a way of poking me in the same tender spot #lrnchat
04:36:13 pm PaFitzpatrick: RT @alc47: This week I have learned how much better Keynote is than Powerpoint #lrnchat >> I’ll second that – esp keynote on iPad
04:36:35 pm aaronesilvers: RT @LisaAGoldstein: Q0) I learned that there will be a #lrnchat tweetup at DevLearn11 during DemoFest. Look for the big screen showing #lrnchat feed #lrnchat
04:36:49 pm alc47: RT @LisaAGoldstein: there will be#lrnchat tweetup @ DevLearn during DemoFest. Look for big screen showing #lrnchat feed>Fantastic #lrnchat
04:36:53 pm MimiBarbara: @JeffMerrell Nice! #lrnchat
04:37:10 pm MimiBarbara: @aaronesilvers That will be terrific! #lrnchat
04:37:38 pm CapAnalytics: Joining our first #lrnchat ! Capital Analytics is here to discuss all things related to measuring the impact of human capital initiatives.
04:37:42 pm StephenCHudson: I also learned that I have a new reason to attend #DevLearn – the VirtuSphere simulation environment http://t.co/0AdSefpy #lrnchat
04:37:45 pm britz: @LisaAGoldstein @npmaven don’t ever use the word “flurry” w/ a guy from Syracuse in #lrnchat ![]()
04:37:49 pm TriciaRansom: What’s our topic? And are we doing intros? #lrnchat
04:38:02 pm TriciaRansom: @CapAnalytics Welcome! #lrnchat
04:38:36 pm alc47: RT @StephenCHudson: #DevLearn – the VirtuSphere simulation environment http://t.co/8oIIzGwt>Awesome #lrnchat
04:38:38 pm LisaAGoldstein: @britz
#lrnchat
04:39:04 pm OpenSesameNow: @aaronesilvers @lisaagoldstein So excited for the tweetup! #lrnchat
04:39:05 pm aaronesilvers: Aaron Silvers, Chicago, IL. Community Manager for @learningreg and @ADL_Initiative. Speaking at #devlearn. Big things afoot. #lrnchat
04:39:10 pm AndreaMay1: Q0) Hey #lrnchat ers This week I learned that sometimes my old furnace just needs a kick in the backside
04:39:40 pm TriciaRansom: Me too! RT @OpenSesameNow: @aaronesilvers @lisaagoldstein So excited for the tweetup! #lrnchat
04:39:55 pm npmaven: Heh. @britz, I’m in Wyoming. “Flurry” has multiple meanings here, too.
#lrnchat
04:40:10 pm lrnchat: Q1) Has your training department had any impact on performance? How can you show it? #lrnchat
04:40:29 pm ckagy: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Has your training department had any impact on performance? How can you show it? #lrnchat
04:40:29 pm npmaven: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Has your training department had any impact on performance? How can you show it? #lrnchat
04:41:06 pm OpenSesameNow: Kelly at OpenSesame, the world’s elearning marketplace in Portland, OR. Excited for DevLearn and talking performacne on #lrnchat!
04:41:07 pm MimiBarbara: Q1) Working on a learning impact strategy in my org “as we speak.” #lrnchat
04:41:12 pm alc47: Q1 Please let’s stop talking about training – this is LEARN chat #lrnchat
04:41:34 pm AndreaMay1: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Has your training department had any impact on performance? How can you show it? #lrnchat
04:41:37 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Has your training department had any impact on performance? How can you show it? #lrnchat
04:41:40 pm OpenSesameNow: @aaronesilvers For sure! I’m excited for the tweetup in particular to meet some people like Lisa in person… #lrnchat
04:41:41 pm MimiBarbara: Q1) Performance improvement efforts run by L&D showing positive impact to business results! #lrnchat
04:41:51 pm ckagy: Q1) on who’s performance? Ours (not sure), or our client’s (yes). Not so good eating our own dogfood. #lrnchat
04:41:54 pm CapAnalytics: This week at @Gartner_inc conf we learned that information is the oil of the 21st century and analytics is the combustion engine #lrnchat
04:42:07 pm dietsociety: @lrnchat the only way to show impact is to measure change in relation to training outcomes – via improvements in quality/metrics #lrnchat
04:42:44 pm AndreaMay1: Q1) yes, shown by reduction of errors in transaction processing and helpdesk calls after implementing an EPSS #lrnchat
04:42:50 pm alc47: RT @ckagy: Q1) on whos performance? Ours (Not), or our clients (yes). Not so good eating our own dogfood. #lrnchat
04:43:00 pm LisaAGoldstein: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Has your training department had any impact on performance? How can you show it? #lrnchat
04:43:18 pm aaronesilvers: @ckagy Share what you can about eating your own dogfood, please. What’s up with that? #lrnchat
04:43:30 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) We don’t measure that. Still documenting number of sessions and backsides in seats. #lrnchat
04:43:47 pm CapAnalytics: . @dietsociety We’ll take you a step further–make sure those training outcomes are linked to business goals #lrnchat
04:43:53 pm alc47: RT @AndreaMay1: Q1) yes, reduction of errors in transaction processing and helpdesk calls after EPSS>good eg of performance change #lrnchat
04:44:09 pm olliegardener: ops.. almost missed #lrnchat then. Cofounder of tech start-up #noddlepod #lrnchat
04:44:15 pm MimiBarbara: Q1) Show impact on performance by taking a “before and after” snapshot #lrnchat
04:44:20 pm LisaAGoldstein: @OpenSesameNow Awww!! Thanks!!! And Ditto!!!! #lrnchat
04:44:39 pm BrianNido: Q0) Things I learned his week: that Steve Jobs spoke at #Educause 13 years ago: http://t.co/1QtfgBA5 #lrnchat
04:44:54 pm alc47: RT @LisaAGoldstein: @OpenSesameNow Awww!! Thanks!!! And Ditto!!!!>me too #lrnchat
04:45:27 pm techherding: Q00 Dick Carlson, Freezing to death in 65 degrees, SC. Purveyor of TechHerding.com and father of three happy Pug Dogs. #lrnchat
04:45:44 pm ckagy: @aaronesilvers we struggle to implement the things we routinely recommend to clients. #lrnchat
04:46:17 pm alc47: RT @ckagy: @aaronesilvers we struggle to implement the things we routinely recommend to clients>means we don’t believe them. #lrnchat
04:46:18 pm C_More_Zebras: #lrnchat – how is it Thursday already?
04:46:26 pm AndreaMay1: @alc47 Thanks much! I was please to see a measurable outcome on that. #lrnchat
04:46:28 pm techherding: Q0 This week, I have learned that if you ask for it, some times you get it — and more. #lrnchat
04:46:43 pm olliegardener: q0) things I learned this week: I can sign documents without printing, signing and scanning (ps: Preview) I like! #lrnchat
04:46:50 pm kasey428: Q1) question doesn’t apply to my work situation since we develop training for others & we don’t eat our own dog food #lrnchat
04:46:57 pm LisaAGoldstein: Q0) I think there is so much we can do to improve. Considering adding Yammar windows in ALL of our software applications. #lrnchat
04:46:59 pm ckagy: RT @alc47: RT @ckagy: we struggle to implement the things we routinely recommend to clients>means we don’t believe them. <
#lrnchat
04:47:08 pm aaronesilvers: @kasey428 this seems to be a trend. #lrnchat
04:47:27 pm AlanMontague: Q0 Alan Montague in Chicago kind of late and kind of lurking…..
#lrnchat
04:48:32 pm AlanMontague: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Has your training department had any impact on performance? How can you show it? #lrnchat
04:49:23 pm aaronesilvers: Is it quiet in here or is it just Twitter being slow? #lrnchat
04:49:38 pm ckagy: @aaronesilvers i’m wrkn 2 get a simple pre-training action plan started. plan has 2 include ways 2 share wht U learned w/ peers #lrnchat
04:49:39 pm alc47: @LisaAGoldstein Intention of carrying learning into workplace improvement using Yammer as platform? #lrnchat
04:49:58 pm AlanMontague: Q1 Yes, With fast up to speed new hires hitting perf targets. Sad that they mostly don’t stay long enough to make real contribution #lrnchat
04:49:59 pm OpenSesameNow: @lisaagoldstein That’s a really cool idea – integrating the collaboration throughout the workflow. #lrnchat
04:50:17 pm techherding: Q1: Don’t have a “training department” here — just me and the pugs. But measuring effect is #1 job. #lrnchat
04:50:17 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Has your training department had any impact on performance? How can you show it? #lrnchat
04:50:39 pm LnDDave: Greetings #lrnchat. David Kelly from NYC, joining a little late…
04:50:40 pm alc47: @aaronesilvers Seems very quiet – very few contributing, almost nobody checked in #lrnchat
04:50:47 pm aaronesilvers: @ckagy Are your customers in the business wanting it? Are you guys wanting it for yourselves? Or, are you trying to make change? #lrnchat
04:51:03 pm LisaAGoldstein: Deep thinking; big question right out of the gate RT @aaronesilvers: Is it quiet in here or is it just Twitter being slow? #lrnchat
04:51:30 pm MimiBarbara: Q1) We want performance impact data and we want our business partners to want it! #lrnchat
04:51:46 pm ckagy: @aaronesilvers i want it internally, because i’m tired to seeing people reinvent the wheel and silo knowledge #lrnchat
04:51:54 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) One of our biggest problems is we cannot concretely show it. Right now its “the right thing to do.” Need Level 3/4 evidence. #lrnchat
04:52:00 pm aaronesilvers: @MimiBarbara What impact data are you seeking? What’s keeping you from it? #lrnchat
04:52:14 pm kasey428: Q1) speaking for the client, it depends, there have been great successes & abysmal failures #lrnchat
04:52:30 pm aaronesilvers: @JD_Dillon What’s keeping you from getting that data? #lrnchat
04:52:44 pm olliegardener: @alc47 everyone is at the myriad of events going on today..! #chr3 #workplacetrends #likeminds .. and an edu. event too me thinks #lrnchat
04:52:54 pm LisaAGoldstein: Q1) Does this count? Hundreds of employees grateful for knowledge that they didn’t have before? #lrnchat
04:52:54 pm ckagy: we’re also working on explicit recognition of barriers and enablers to performance. not always KSAs! but that’s elementary stuff #lrnchat.
04:53:03 pm briandusablon: You and me both. Why hello Lrnchat – been a while. RT @LnDDave: Greetings. David Kelly from NYC, joining a little late… #lrnchat
04:53:15 pm MimiBarbara: @aaronesilvers Nothing is keeping us from it. We’re working it! Building a plan to have the partners begging for it! #lrnchat
04:53:28 pm AndreaMay1: RT @JD_Dillon: Q1) biggest problems is we can’t concretely show it. Now its “the right thing to do.” Need Level 3/4 evidence. #lrnchat 04:53:29 pm JD_Dillon: @aaronesilvers – Cohesive efforts between business partners and learning … Getting both on same page with same priorities. #lrnchat
04:53:30 pm ckagy: RT @LisaAGoldstein: Q1) Does this count? Hundreds of employees grateful for knowledge that they didn’t have before? #lrnchat < sure!
04:53:30 pm OpenSesameNow: @ckagy often stuff that’s most effective is stuff w/ shortest rollout period: using video to create short “courses” for ex. #lrnchat
04:53:50 pm LnDDave: Q1) There are lots a ways to show training impact. The challenge is to choose the correct and meaningful metric. #lrnchat
04:54:05 pm lrnchat: Q2) Who else (non-training) is helping support or improve performance? #lrnchat
04:54:15 pm C_More_Zebras: Q1) #lrnchat do you have your own @FiremanEd42 ? If you did how would you use him?
04:54:19 pm MimiBarbara: RT @LnDDave: Q1) There are lots a ways to show training impact. The challenge is to choose the correct and meaningful metric. #lrnchat
04:54:23 pm ckagy: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Who else (non-training) is helping support or improve performance? #lrnchat
04:54:31 pm LisaAGoldstein: Q1) Managers sending thanks on a regular basis, university constantly evolving based on input from learners/managers #lrnchat
04:54:37 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Who else (non-training) is helping support or improve performance? #lrnchat
04:54:37 pm kasey428: Q1) the common thread 4 the failures most often was when leadership ‘knew’ what the workforce needed w/o an outside analysis #lrnchat
04:54:41 pm LisaAGoldstein: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Who else (non-training) is helping support or improve performance? #lrnchat
04:54:41 pm cammybean: Cammy joining now — was late cuz I was off performing
#lrnchat
04:54:47 pm AlanMontague: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Who else (non-training) is helping support or improve performance? #lrnchat
04:54:48 pm briandusablon: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Who else (non-training) is helping support or improve performance? #lrnchat
04:54:51 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) Level 1 scores are always high, almost too high … Client may like it, but is it making a difference for the customer? IDK. #lrnchat
04:55:07 pm gullapalli09: RT @angelsandoval: The Human Factor: The Connection Between Social Networking and #Learning by Mary Arnold http://t.co/j3Htf0Bo #lrnchat
04:55:10 pm ImagiRaven: Valerie Noll checking in late to #lrnchat
04:55:10 pm AndreaMay1: Q2) Internal centers of excellence – training dept is contributor but not owner #lrnchat
04:55:18 pm LisaAGoldstein: Q2) Lucky to have a company culture with immense support and hunger from everyone-all the way from the very top to the very bottom #lrnchat
04:55:19 pm cammybean: Q2) Peers and colleagues provide support and improve performance all day long (think heads over cubical walls). #lrnchat
04:55:21 pm ImagiRaven: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Who else (non-training) is helping support or improve performance? #lrnchat
04:55:33 pm AlanMontague: Q2 pretty much EVERYONE. after all 70% of learnign is informal right?
#lrnchat
04:55:34 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) Leadership must be the frontline for performance improvement w/ learning/HR/communication/c-suite support. #lrnchat
04:55:36 pm CapAnalytics: Q1) To get the data, you have to go outside of training–check in with your stakeholders who are sending their people to training #lrnchat
04:55:39 pm MimiBarbara: Q2) Managers of learners should be helping to support improved performance. They don’t always put that as top priority in my org. #lrnchat
04:55:46 pm LnDDave: Q2) Either your managers are helping support performance, or it’s not simply not improving. #lrnchat
04:55:51 pm ckagy: Q2) project management unit. they crave higher efficiency & less re-work of deliverables #lrnchat
04:55:59 pm alc47: Q2 Every person inthe organisation who shares and helps someone else #lrnchat
04:56:07 pm briandusablon: Agreed. Anyone who gives a damn, anyway. RT @AlanMontague: Q2 pretty much EVERYONE. after all 70% of learnign is informal right? #lrnchat
04:56:16 pm MimiBarbara: RT @cammybean: Amen! 2) Peers and colleagues provide support and improve performance all day long (think heads over cubical walls). #lrnchat
04:56:19 pm vmc_teachers: Hi everyone! I’m @christinerenaud – Community manager for the Teachers’ Center of the Virtual Museum of Canada, based in Montreal. #lrnchat
04:56:21 pm JD_Dillon: @cammybean – Great point! Most learning happens without anyone’s knowledge between peers regardless of formal efforts! #lrnchat
04:56:29 pm npmaven: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Who else (non-training) is helping support or improve performance? #lrnchat
04:56:36 pm alc47: @MimiBarbara Q2 It’s not a top down issue – learning is social and peer driven #lrnchat
04:56:38 pm cammybean: Q2) What about the Google? Has that ever helped you improve your performance? #lrnchat
04:56:49 pm LnDDave: Q2) Google. #lrnchat
04:56:53 pm kasey428: Q2) in my org divisional execs encourage specialists to go to conferences, workshops & seminars sponsored by others #lrnchat
04:56:56 pm npmaven: RT @JD_Dillon: @cammybean-Great point! Most learning happens without anyone’s knowledge between peers regardless of formal efforts! #lrnchat
04:56:57 pm vmc_teachers: Happy to participate in my 1st #lrnchat of the year! What’s the topic today? #lrnchat
04:57:02 pm AndreaMay1: Q2) In some cases HR too, by helping to enable more flexible and collaborative work environments. #lrnchat
04:57:14 pm briandusablon: RT @cammybean: Q2) What about the Google? Has that ever helped you improve your performance? #lrnchat
04:57:16 pm LisaAGoldstein: Yes! knowledge sharing RT @alc47: @LisaAGoldstein Inten of carrying learning into workplace improvement using Yammer as platform? #lrnchat
04:57:18 pm CapAnalytics: Q@) @MimiBarbara you’re spot on–make sure you get their support at the outset, and they will help define success of the training #lrnchat
04:57:20 pm cammybean: Q2) Sometimes, gasp, I even take the initiative to read books to help me improve my performance. #lrnchat
04:57:26 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Who else (non-training) is helping support or improve performance? #lrnchat
04:57:32 pm techherding: RT @cammybean: Cammy joining now — was late cuz I was off performing
#lrnchat << Playing the kazoo on a streetcorner, again? 04:57:35 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) Steve Jobs significantly improved my performance during the past few years —> amazing tech tools! #lrnchat
04:57:35 pm kasey428: Q2) we are also encouraged to learn on our own via whatever avenues, hence I am here! #lrnchat
04:57:41 pm ImagiRaven: That would be my hope RT @AlanMontague: Q2 pretty much EVERYONE. after all 70% of learnign is informal right?
#lrnchat
04:57:44 pm ckagy: i c lots of individual learning encourages, but not the same attention to work group performance #lrnchat
04:57:44 pm alc47: RT @npmaven: RT @JD_Dillon: @cammybean-Great point! learning happens between peers regardless of formal efforts! #lrnchat
04:57:46 pm MimiBarbara: @alc47 Agree re social learning, but managers still need to support and provide feedback. That need doesn’t go away. #lrnchat
04:57:48 pm npmaven: …an obvious challenge to the measurement call (informal peer learning)! #lrnchat
04:57:53 pm AndrewJacobsLD: Checking in late for #lrnchat
04:57:59 pm MimiBarbara: RT @kasey428: Q2) we are also encouraged to learn on our own via whatever avenues, hence I am here! #lrnchat
04:58:05 pm skiley1013: NEED OPINION: Should an eLearning Developer candidate be disqualified if they cannot produce an easy to access web-based portfolio? #lrnchat
04:58:07 pm cammybean: Q2) Sometimes, gasp, I even take the initiative to ask for feedback from my managers and peers to improve my performance. #lrnchat
04:58:11 pm AndreaMay1: RT @cammybean: Q2) Sometimes I even take the initiative to read books to help me improve my performance. #lrnchat 04:58:22 pm cammybean: Q2) Sometimes, gasp, I ask for feedback from my clients. #lrnchat
04:58:25 pm alc47: @CapAnalytics Q2 More likely wreck it by trying to control it. #lrnchat
04:58:27 pm LisaAGoldstein: Yes! RT @OpenSesameNow: @lisaagoldstein That’s a really cool idea – integrating the collaboration throughout the workflow. #lrnchat
04:58:34 pm LnDDave: Q2) The individuals. They own their performance, not trainers. #lrnchat
04:58:36 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) SMEs, long-term employees, help-desk kinda, water-cooler info, co-workers, imaginiation… #lrnchat
04:58:38 pm OpenSesameNow: @cammybean Oh my goodness. You’re a revolutionary. #lrnchat
04:58:44 pm ckagy: RT @LnDDave: Q2) The individuals. They own their performance, not trainers. #lrnchat
04:58:50 pm olliegardener: q2) the manager that knows how to get out of the way, 2 act as a catalyst 4 learning & unleash the performance people r capable of #lrnchat
04:58:58 pm briandusablon: @skiley1013 No. A lot of people can’t share anything they’ve developed inside other orgs. #lrnchat
04:59:14 pm alc47: @MimiBarbara Why do they need to suuport what is halppening anyway – best to get out of the way and let it happen #lrnchat
04:59:32 pm techherding: Step one in corporate training/learning design, unfortunately, is determining how you’ll show off and measure success. #lrnchat
04:59:33 pm britz: ‚Äú@lrnchat Q2) Who else (non-training) is helping support or improve performance? #lrnchat‚Äù/ workers…via informal /social channels
04:59:59 pm alc47: RT Yes, yes!@LisaAGoldstein: Yes! RT @OpenSesameNow: @lisaagoldstein really cool – integrating collaboration in the workflow. #lrnchat
05:00:00 pm aaronesilvers: RT @techherding: Step one in corporate training/learning design, unfortunately, is determining how you’ll show off and measure success. #lrnchat
05:00:22 pm kasey428: Q2) I read anything that piques my interest & wander the net in pursuit of enlightenment in learning & performance improvement. #lrnchat
05:00:25 pm alc47: @techherding So we start with a false premise??!!!! #lrnchat
05:00:27 pm npmaven: Nice! RT @olliegardener: q2) manager who knows how 2 get out of way, act as a catalyst 4 learning & unleash performance.. #lrnchat
05:00:32 pm thefooshshow: RT @aaronesilvers: Aaron Silvers, Chicago, IL. Community Manager for @learningreg and @ADL_Initiative. Speaking at #devlearn. Big things afoot. #lrnchat
05:00:33 pm AndrewJacobsLD: Q2 – Too many to list. Any interaction between people, with tech or knowledge, or sole reflection could improve performance #lrnchat
05:00:40 pm AlanMontague: LOL but oh so true!
RT @LnDDave: Q2) Google. #lrnchat
05:00:43 pm _SachinGaur: RT @radar How “Angry Birds”-playing robot could shape the future of mobile testing http://t.co/lQZOlrpo Interview with @hugs #Games #Lrnchat
05:00:45 pm CapAnalytics: Q2) @alc47 Thinking they’ll wreck it is awfully cynical. Has this been your experience when working with stakeholders? #lrnchat
05:01:11 pm techherding: Q2) Thing that improves my performance most is failing. I do it a lot, and leave space in my planning for it. #lrnchat
05:01:13 pm kasey428: RT @techherding: Step 1 in corporate training/learning design, unfortunately, is determining how youll show off & measure success. #lrnchat
05:01:16 pm briandusablon: RT @LnDDave: Q2) The individuals. They own their performance, not trainers. #lrnchat
05:01:16 pm MimiBarbara: @alc47 What if it’s not happening? What if the learner needs coaching? Managers should still coach to improved performance. #lrnchat
05:01:23 pm aaronesilvers: RT @techherding: Q2) Thing that improves my performance most is failing. I do it a lot, and leave space in my planning for it. #lrnchat
05:01:25 pm designedlearnin: @cammybean Books are still a great learning device…especially if they are designed for learning (like the ‘Dummies’ series) #lrnchat
05:02:00 pm alc47: @CapAnalytics Absolutely – have rarely seen management or leadership do anything to accelerate learning. #lrnchat
05:02:00 pm AndreaMay1: RT @LnDDave: Q2) The individuals. They own their performance, not trainers. #lrnchat 05:02:16 pm kasey428: RT @techherding: Q2) Thing that improves my performance most is failing. I do it a lot, and leave space in my planning for it. #lrnchat
05:02:27 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) Employees themselves should be permitted/motivated to learn more on their own, just need to put the right tools in place. #lrnchat
05:02:34 pm alc47: @MimiBarbara No, managers are just some of the poeple who are in a position to caoch #lrnchat
05:02:34 pm techherding: @alc47 No, we make sure that what we do CAN BE MEASURED and CAN BE REPORTED. #lrnchat
05:03:07 pm npmaven: RT @LnDDave: Q2) The individuals. They own their performance, not trainers. #lrnchat
05:03:26 pm olliegardener: RT @JD_Dillon: Q2) Employees should be permitted/motivated to learn more on their own, just need to put the right tools in place. #lrnchat
05:03:27 pm MimiBarbara: @alc47 Absolutely! Some of my best coaches are my peers. #lrnchat
05:03:32 pm ckagy: RT @techherding: @alc47 No, we make sure that what we do CAN BE MEASURED and CAN BE REPORTED. #lrnchat < self defense
05:03:44 pm alc47: RT YES!@AndreaMay1: individuals own their performance, not trainers. 05:03:57 pm 4KM: RT @alc47: Q1 Please let’s stop talking about training – this is LEARN chat #lrnchat
05:04:00 pm LisaAGoldstein: RT @MimiBarbara: @alc47 Absolutely! Some of my best coaches are my peers. #lrnchat
05:04:17 pm CapAnalytics: Q2) @alc47 Is it b/c learning doesn’t speak mgmt’s language? We’ve seen strong mgmt support when learning can show proof of impact #lrnchat
05:04:44 pm alc47: @techherding Fundamentally disagree – why does it have to be reported? Performance requires no self-defence #lrnchat
05:05:03 pm aggiegirlz: RT @techherding: Step one in corporate training/learning design, unfortunately, is determining how you’ll show off and measure success. #lrnchat
05:05:09 pm alc47: Point proven!RT @LisaAGoldstein: RT @MimiBarbara: @alc47 Absolutely! Some of my best coaches are my peers. #lrnchat
05:05:20 pm kasey428: Q2) having a PLN network is key, but measurement is difficult. I can say that I learn everyday from those far smarter than me. #lrnchat
05:05:30 pm AndreaMay1: Another lull… #lrnchat
05:05:37 pm techherding: Two ways to do projects: Work, work, work, work, test. Work, test, work, test, work, test, work test. Using “failing” is #2. #lrnchat
05:05:59 pm AndreaMay1: It’s MEA weekend here in MN…lots of folks off work and school today #lrnchat
05:06:00 pm ckagy: @alc47 still, you need agreement on what constitutes performance. #lrnchat
05:06:10 pm LisaAGoldstein: @CapAnalytics The most successful university is one with EVERYONE on your team; ask managers what they want in OUR/THEIR university #lrnchat
05:06:10 pm alc47: @CapAnalytics That’s much better language now! We have to be part of business with an expertise to offer to help performance #lrnchat
05:06:11 pm 4KM: Re: #leadership enabling #learning: Communities of Practice can be great places to witness that this can happen #lrnchat #KMers @alc47
05:06:13 pm spbt_tweets: RT @LnDDave Q2) The individuals. They own their performance, not trainers. #lrnchat
05:06:21 pm OpenSesameNow: @andreamay1 As @JaneBozarth points out, often largest need in the performance area is not training, but removing admin. obstacles #lrnchat
05:06:40 pm alc47: RT @kasey428: Q2) PLN network key, but measurement is difficult. I can say that I learn everyday from those far smarter than me. #lrnchat
05:06:59 pm 4KM: RT @ckagy: @alc47 still, you need agreement on what constitutes performance. #lrnchat 05:07:00 pm npmaven:
RT @4KM: Re: #leadership enabling #learning: Communities of Practice can be great places to witness that this can happen #lrnchat
05:07:07 pm sparkandco: RT @OpenSesameNow: @andreamay1 As @JaneBozarth points out, oftn largest need isn’t training, but removing admin. obstacles #lrnchat
05:07:13 pm alc47: RT @4KM: Re: Communities of Practice can be great places to witness that this can happen #lrnchat #KMers @alc47 #lrnchat
05:07:17 pm CapAnalytics: RT @LisaAGoldstein: @CapAnalytics The most successful university is one with EVERYONE on your team; ask managers what they want in OUR/THEIR university #lrnchat
05:07:25 pm LisaAGoldstein: @CapAnalytics If a manager is unhappy – ask them to specifically say what exactly should be done to improve the product. #lrnchat
05:07:28 pm olliegardener: q2) Leadership and org.systems that don’t punish playfulness, failing or being wrong. There r great lessons in falling on ur face! #lrnchat
05:07:37 pm ckagy: RT @4KM: RT @ckagy: @alc47 still, U need agreement on wht constitutes performance. #lrnchat 05:07:48 pm kasey428: Q2) Heck I learn everyday from those I am mentor. Every day is learning event for me. #lrnchat
05:07:52 pm olliegardener: RT @4KM: Re: #leadership enabling #learning: Communities of Practice can be great places to witness that this can happen #lrnchat #lrnchat
05:08:00 pm LnDDave: RT @kasey428: Q2) Heck I learn everyday from those I am mentor. Every day is learning event for me. #lrnchat
05:08:04 pm techherding: Performance = Achieving Standards (If there are no standards, run!) #lrnchat
05:08:17 pm AndreaMay1: RT @OpenSesameNow:As @JaneBozarth points out, largest need in performance area isn’t training, but removing admin obstacles #lrnchat 05:08:28 pm lrnchat: Q3) How do you isolate the effects of training vs. other factors on performance? How do data tell your story? #lrnchat
05:08:42 pm Dave_Ferguson: I’d say (b/c Rummler, Gilbert, Harless did) that MOST perf. improvement does not involve training…
#lrnchat
05:08:49 pm LisaAGoldstein: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you isolate the effects of training vs. other factors on performance? How do data tell your story? #lrnchat
05:08:50 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you isolate the effects of training vs. other factors on performance? How do data tell your story? #lrnchat
05:08:56 pm sparkandco: RT @Dave_Ferguson: I’d say (b/c Rummler, Gilbert, Harless did) that MOST perf. improvement does not involve training…
#lrnchat
05:08:57 pm ckagy: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you isolate the effects of training vs. other factors on performance? How do data tell your story? #lrnchat
05:09:03 pm ImagiRaven: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you isolate the effects of training vs. other factors on performance? How do data tell your story? #lrnchat
05:09:07 pm kasey428: RT @Dave_Ferguson: I’d say (b/c Rummler, Gilbert, Harless did) that MOST perf. improvement does not involve training…
#lrnchat
05:09:12 pm npmaven: RT @lrnchat: Q3) How do you isolate the effects of training vs. other factors on performance? How do data tell your story? #lrnchat
05:09:16 pm alc47: @techherding No! performance means getting results #lrnchat
05:09:37 pm LisaAGoldstein: Q3) If individuals feel they are doing a better job because of what they learned. Ask them. #lrnchat
05:09:38 pm Dave_Ferguson: …but “training” is what training depts tend to think they do, & what many mgrs / execs ask for or expect. #lrnchat
05:09:39 pm techherding: RT @Dave_Ferguson: I’d say (b/c Rummler, Gilbert, Harless did) that MOST perf. improvement does not involve training…
#lrnchat << Shhhhh!
05:09:45 pm LnDDave: Q3) Isolating the effects takes a lot of effort, and it’s credibility is suspect. Proceed with caution… #lrnchat
05:10:03 pm OpenSesameNow: @andreamay1 @sparkandco of course question then becomes, how can L&D peeps fight the good fight against admin obstacles!?! #lrnchat
05:10:33 pm ckagy: Q3) plan for it. pre- post- tests, control groups, trend lines, etc, but come to agreement w/ stakeholders on measure first #lrnchat
05:10:33 pm kasey428: RT @Dave_Ferguson: …but “training” is what training depts tend to think they do, & what many mgrs / execs ask for or expect. #lrnchat
05:10:36 pm briandusablon: @Dave_Ferguson true. We can keep pushing back, though. That’s our duty. #lrnchat
05:10:37 pm MimiBarbara: Q3) Identify the other factors and have learners assign them a percentage impact #lrnchat
05:10:40 pm Dave_Ferguson: Influences on perf: skill/known; work enviro (time/tools/info); motiv/incent systems (internal/external); personnel select.
#lrnchat
05:10:52 pm LisaAGoldstein: Q3) Has the goal of the training been met? If yes, then ask your employees – was it partly because of the training? #lrnchat
05:10:55 pm briandusablon: @OpenSesameNow with hoodies. #lrnchat
05:11:01 pm sparkandco: RT @MimiBarbara: Q3) Identify the other factors and have learners assign them a percentage impact #lrnchat 05:11:01 pm JD_Dillon: Q3) Need strong client/learning alignment so that training is an integral part of performance initiatives. #lrnchat
05:11:03 pm ckagy: RT @LnDDave: Q3) Isolating the effects takes a lot of effort, and it’s credibility is suspect. Proceed with caution… #lrnchat < really?
05:11:03 pm C_More_Zebras: @LisaAGoldstein give the audience a safe platform to speak. #lrnchat
05:11:04 pm CapAnalytics: Q2) @kasey428 We did a mentoring study @ Sun Microsystems http://t.co/Wn5gHpxB mentors got just as much benefit as mentees #lrnchat
05:11:21 pm alc47: Exactly RT @techherding: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Id say that MOST perf. improvement does not involve training… #lrnchat << Shhhhh! #lrnchat
05:11:22 pm Dave_Ferguson: Formal training (in theory) addresses skill/knowledge gaps. You can’t train your way out of crappy job design (or low pay). #lrnchat
05:11:24 pm LisaAGoldstein: I agree! RT @C_More_Zebras: @LisaAGoldstein give the audience a safe platform to speak. #lrnchat
05:11:30 pm vmc_teachers: @lrnchat Are we talking about performance in school? About learning in general in the context of work? #lrnchat
05:11:45 pm JD_Dillon: Q3) Too many operational pilots = little/no ability to determine impact of enterprise learning efforts. #lrnchat
05:12:08 pm OpenSesameNow: @briandusablon So, you’re saying, with unabashed bribery? #lrnchat
05:12:17 pm alc47: We seem to be focusing on training not learning – no point in this chat for me – see you all sometime #lrnchat
05:12:21 pm Dave_Ferguson: @vmc_teachers *I* am talking about on-the-job performance. You’ll have to figure out other folks yourself.
#lrnchat
05:12:22 pm 4KM: In knowledge mgmt we might look at employee perceptions: e.g. we think improvement was 50% fm #KM and 50% fm other factors #lrnchat
05:12:24 pm AndrewJacobsLD: #lrnchat Q3 Should you isolate training from results? You can’t count everything that counts.
05:12:32 pm JD_Dillon: Q3) Have a strong plan going into any initiative. Lay out the measurement strategy early to account for any other influences. #lrnchat
05:12:43 pm AndreaMay1: RT @OpenSesameNow: @sparkandco : Need to get those admin types to understand that obstacles impeded PERFORMANCE! #lrnchat
05:12:45 pm LnDDave: @ckagy Isolating the effects is hard, especially if the data is coming via employee surveys. #lrnchat
05:12:50 pm techherding: I’m talking about teaching someone to run a punch press, or drive an airplane. If talking about giving someone self-esteem… #lrnchat
05:12:58 pm sparkandco: RT @OpenSesameNow: @andreamay1how can L&D peeps fight the good fight against admin obstacles!?! 05:14:47 pm 4KM: @ckagy (back to Q2) capacity for what depends on business. To respond effectively to disaster, for example. #lrnchat
05:14:50 pm sparkandco: Q3) Build a dashboard that shows multiple impacts – learning/biz, etc -show over time, not event based #lrnchat
05:15:04 pm ckagy: RT @LnDDave: @ckagy Isolating effects is hard, especially if the data is employee surveys. #lrnchat < surveys <> business need.
05:15:04 pm CapAnalytics: RT @ckagy: RT @LnDDave: @ckagy Isolating effects is hard, if the data is employee surveys. #lrnchat < use tangibles that are already measured.
05:15:07 pm Dave_Ferguson: (Mager’s the 1-hour version; Rummler/Brache the grad course) #lrnchat
05:15:25 pm AndreaMay1: Q#) very, very tricky. Not sure it is possible to effectively separate one from the other outside of a controlled study situation #lrnchat
05:15:35 pm OpenSesameNow: @sparkandco I agree. One of most successful projects I’ve worked on was bc special proj team had membership from ALL depts. #lrnchat
05:15:37 pm LnDDave: Q3) Challenges of Isolation: Do you have a control group? What data are you using? Are you adjusting surveys for confidence? #lrnchat
05:15:48 pm pbernardon: RT @4KM: In knowledge mgmt we might look at employee perceptions: e.g. we think improvement was 50% fm #KM and 50% fm other factors #lrnchat
05:15:49 pm CapAnalytics: RT @JD_Dillon: Q3) Have a strong plan going into any initiative. Lay out the measurement strategy early to account for any other influences. #lrnchat
05:15:56 pm ckagy: RT @4KM: @ckagy capacity 4 wht depends on business. 2 respond effectively 2 disaster, 4 example. #lrnchat < is that not performance on cue?
05:16:11 pm ckagy: RT @CapAnalytics: Q3) Isolation isn’t easy, but def. credible when done right. The methodology’s used all over cos.–but not popular in learning & HR #lrnchat
05:16:13 pm MimiBarbara: RT @CapAnalytics: Q3) Isolation isnt easy, but credible when done right. Methodology used all over-but not popular in learning & HR #lrnchat
05:16:15 pm sue_freeman1: #lrnchat Nigh on impossible, as Jack Sparrow would tell. Supv os huge in training reinforcem’t on the job. When it’s good, we all win!
05:17:02 pm alc47: @techherding If #lrnchat is about training then it has lost its point. Learning is not about training
05:17:02 pm LisaAGoldstein: Q3) Not sure if “how much” is important. Yes/No answer to ‘did it help’ is critical. Training is just part of the team effort. #lrnchat
05:17:10 pm ckagy: Q3) Jack Phillips, Toni Hodges DeTunq, other authors go into this deeply. #lrnchat
05:17:32 pm CapAnalytics: Q3) @LnDDaveDo you have a control group?-Yes in the data What data are you using?-Need operational data outside of L&D #lrnchat
05:17:37 pm 4KM: @ckagy Re: is [capacity] not performance on cue? Good pt; there may be lag that makes [quarterly/annual] measures impossible #lrnchat
05:18:10 pm MimiBarbara: @ckagy When did Toni Hodges become DeTunq? #lrnchat
05:18:16 pm LnDDave: Q3) I find isolation unnecessary; usually correlation is enough. #lrnchat
05:18:29 pm ITKnowConsult: is so busy i forgot about #lrnchat today!
05:18:45 pm LisaAGoldstein: RT @LnDDave: Q3) I find isolation unnecessary; usually correlation is enough. #lrnchat
05:19:11 pm ckagy: RT @LnDDave: Q3) I find isolation unnecessary; usually correlation is enough. #lrnchat
05:19:23 pm CapAnalytics: Q3) @LnDDave Q3) Are you adjusting surveys for confidence?-No need-surveys are one part. Need performance data–ops, sales, etc. #lrnchat
05:19:36 pm LnDDave: @ckagy I’m certified in the Phillips Methodology, and I find it’s often used well beyond it’s conservative design. #lrnchat
05:20:06 pm ckagy: @LnDDave somehow that doesn’t surprise me… #lrnchat
05:20:46 pm LnDDave: @CapAnalytics Disagree on survey adjustments, especially – and this is often the case – if it’s your ONLY data outside of outcomes. #lrnchat
05:21:12 pm LnDDave: @ckagy Everybody wants to make themselves look good…
#lrnchat
05:21:12 pm CapAnalytics: Q3) Correlation is sufficient for some initiatives. Isolation crucial to show proof to c-suite & make predictive improvements. #lrnchat
05:21:14 pm ITKnowConsult: @olliegardener certified pdf signature you mean? #lrnchat
05:21:14 pm ckagy: @LnDDave it is hard to be conservative when you have to justify or prove a point. #lrnchat
05:21:23 pm techherding: Pretty much any tool can be used to hammer a nail.
RT @ckagy: @LnDDave somehow that doesn’t surprise me… #lrnchat
05:21:24 pm JD_Dillon: @LisaAGoldstein @LnDDave – Correlation is good, isolation is GOLD! #lrnchat
05:21:33 pm aaronesilvers: RT @LnDDave: @CapAnalytics Disagree on survey adjustments, especially – and this is often the case – if it’s your ONLY data outside of outcomes. #lrnchat
05:21:33 pm ckagy: RT @LnDDave: @ckagy Everybody wants to make themselves look good…
#lrnchat < LOL
05:21:46 pm 4KM: Seems to me that isolation could be practical for simple and complicated work but not complex work #lrnchat
05:21:52 pm LisaAGoldstein: So, how do you do it? RT @JD_Dillon: @LisaAGoldstein @LnDDave – Correlation is good, isolation is GOLD! #lrnchat
05:22:04 pm lrnchat: Q4) Who “owns” performance improvement within your organization? Who should own it? #lrnchat
05:22:11 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q4) Who “owns” performance improvement within your organization? Who should own it? #lrnchat
05:22:17 pm ckagy: RT @lrnchat: Q4) Who “owns” performance improvement within your organization? Who should own it? #lrnchat
05:22:21 pm CapAnalytics: Q3) @LnDDave true if you only have surveys. But you can’t get to isolation with surveys alone. #lrnchat
05:22:37 pm MimiBarbara: RT @lrnchat: Q4) Who “owns” performance improvement within your organization? Who should own it? #lrnchat
05:22:47 pm LisaAGoldstein: Anyone who receives a paycheck RT @lrnchat: Q4) Who “owns” performance improvement within your organization? Who should own it? #lrnchat
05:22:50 pm C_More_Zebras: Q4) if its not everyone, I’m stumped. #lrnchat
05:23:06 pm Dave_Ferguson: At GE, goal was to make six sigma (as a data-driven, perf-imp approach) part of everyone’s approach to problems. #lrnchat
05:23:08 pm ckagy: RT @C_More_Zebras: Q4) if its not everyone, I’m stumped. #lrnchat < well said
05:23:15 pm briandusablon: RT @lrnchat: Q4) Who “owns” performance improvement within your organization? Who should own it? #lrnchat
05:23:26 pm LnDDave: @CapAnalytics Isolation also requires open sharing of data across departments… which is harder to find than a rare white elk. #lrnchat
05:23:46 pm 4KM: Can you isolation experts/fans answer Qs like when did you get ROI on your degree or what makes you respect a leader? (curious) #lrnchat
05:23:48 pm Dave_Ferguson: So the worker / workgroup “owns” perf improvement. You can still have specialists to help them w/ deeper skill. #lrnchat
05:23:57 pm briandusablon: Q4) Performance Improvement, under Org. Development. But each business unit owns it to some extent. #lrnchat
05:24:12 pm 4KM: RT @C_More_Zebras: Q4) if its not everyone, I’m stumped. #lrnchat
05:24:16 pm CraigTaylor74: Q4) You. Me. Them. Us. Everybody. Every booooooody, needs somebooooody #lrnchat
05:24:17 pm ckagy: Q4) if performance data is visible, all can own PI. If it’s kept secret, the pool is smaller. #lrnchat
05:24:22 pm OpenSesameNow: Q4) Who owns performance support? Answer: RT @C_More_Zebras: Q4) if its not everyone, I’m stumped. #lrnchat
05:24:35 pm vmc_teachers: Q2) Did someone mention Communities of practice? Anyone part of one? #lrnchat
05:24:38 pm briandusablon: Q4) Should be enterprise strategy and support, with individuals owning it, with access to resources and personnel to help them. #lrnchat
05:25:07 pm LnDDave: Q4) Anyone accountable for results. Sadly, that’s not 100% of all employees in many orgs. #lrnchat
05:25:10 pm ckagy: RT @4KM: cn U isolation fans answer Qs lk when did U get ROI on yr degree or wht makes U respect a leader? (curious) #lrnchat < nope!
05:25:13 pm AndreaMay1: Q4)So many levels to this. Individual performance, department performance, business unit performance…each claim some ownership #lrnchat
05:25:13 pm 4KM: .@vmc_teachers Yes, I mentioned CoP and am quite involved in various ways #lrnchat
05:25:16 pm C_More_Zebras: @ckagy @OpenSesameNow cheers! #lrnchat
05:25:23 pm techherding: I assumed it was whoever hung those motivational posters on the walls — with the kittens and the mountains, and the sayings? #lrnchat
05:25:43 pm CapAnalytics: Q3) @LnDDave No one said it was easy
We have published examples with leading Fortune 500s if you’d like to learn more. #lrnchat
05:25:46 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) Simple . . . EVERYONE! In reality, it should be a key component of every department’s strategy. #lrnchat
05:25:50 pm 4KM: RT @techherding: Assumed it was whoever hung motivational posters on walls — with the kittens and the mountains, and the sayings? #lrnchat
05:25:50 pm aaronesilvers: RT @techherding: I assumed it was whoever hung those motivational posters on the walls — with the kittens and the mountains, and the sayings? #lrnchat
05:26:55 pm briandusablon: RT @Dave_Ferguson: So the worker / workgroup “owns” perf improvement. You can still have specialists to help them w/ deeper skill. #lrnchat
05:26:58 pm ImagiRaven: Lol RT @techherding: …whoever hung those motivational posters on the walls — w/ the kittens and the mountains, and the sayings? #lrnchat
05:27:07 pm MimiBarbara: Q4) Everyone should “own” performance support. L&D and the business provides opportunities to support improvement. #lrnchat
05:27:19 pm briandusablon: RT @techherding: I assumed it was whoever hung those motivational posters on the walls – w/ kittens and mountains, and the sayings? #lrnchat
05:27:27 pm kasey428: @techherding Classic response
I can’t think of anything more non-motivating than a motivational poster. #lrnchat
05:27:39 pm OpenSesameNow: @learnnuggets @briandusablon BTW, I am pouting that I was not invited. No wine for you guys. #lrnchat
05:27:41 pm LnDDave: @CapAnalytics The ‘How’ can be fairly easy. I think the greater challenge is knowing when you need to isolate, and when you don’t #lrnchat
05:28:08 pm 4KM: .@CapAnalytics Would be interested in complex work exs: perhaps public sector, non-routine wk w multiple objectives/influences? #lrnchat
05:28:10 pm C_More_Zebras: Q4) who’s looking out for the why’s and where’s? who’s proactive and are they allowed to communicate it? #lrnchat
05:28:34 pm amirelion: RT @MimiBarbara: Q4) Everyone should “own” performance support. L&D and the business provides opportunities to support improvement. #lrnchat
05:28:41 pm MimiBarbara: Q4) Everyone should “own” performance support. L&D and the business provide opportunities to support improvement. #lrnchat
05:28:47 pm techherding: I’m not being sarcastic. You can tell exactly how a company feels about PI by whether there are posters or class schedules. #lrnchat
05:29:42 pm 4KM: .@LnDDave @CapAnalytics Have me thinking about #permaculture and related movements. Expect interacting layers & unexpected benefits #lrnchat
05:30:00 pm sumeet_moghe: Three antipatterns to protect your learning community from http://t.co/IRary6Vg #some #sociallearning #lrnchat #e20 #socbiz
05:30:54 pm aaronesilvers: @techherding I’m a simple gal. An agenda when I get a meeting invite is all I need to know about how serious we are. #lrnchat.
05:30:56 pm kasey428: @techherding I worked for an org that had those bloody things framed in the break room. The messages didn’t work. #lrnchat
05:31:13 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) Performance improvement must be part of the company’s culture 24/7, not a bi-annual check-in-the-box initiative. #lrnchat
05:31:35 pm 4KM: .@techherding Workplace semiotics; a great playground. #lrnchat
05:31:45 pm C_More_Zebras: RT @JD_Dillon: Q4) Performance improvement must be part of the company’s culture 24/7, not a bi-annual check-in-the-box initiative. #lrnchat
05:31:55 pm CapAnalytics: @4KM Happy to chat offline and share examples. In the interim check out these case studies: http://t.co/qfMMDLi9 #lrnchat
05:32:22 pm aaronesilvers: Q4) If performance improvement is an “event” then no one really owns it. If it’s continuous, it’s in the culture and everyone does. #lrnchat
05:32:24 pm kasey428: @JD_Dillon: Q4) Performance improvement must be part of the companys culture 24/7, not a bi-annual check-in-the-box initiative. #lrnchat
05:32:37 pm 4KM: @CapAnalytics Thanks #lrnchat
05:33:06 pm aaronesilvers: @techherding I have that rule. Funny how much *I* tend to get in trouble for sticking to it. #lrnchat
05:33:20 pm kasey428: What @aaronesilvers said: Q4) If performance improvement is an “event” then no one really owns it. If its continuous… #lrnchat
05:33:29 pm 4KM: A4 Performance improvement always sounds great, but need to think about what stops being managed as it is not measured. #lrnchat
05:33:38 pm Dave_Ferguson: Test for not-serious-about-performance: Scott Adams would reject your real-life example as too silly for “Dilbert.” #lrnchat
05:33:38 pm LnDDave: RT @aaronesilvers: Q4) If performance improvement is an “event” then no one really owns it. If it’s continuous, it’s in the culture and everyone does. #lrnchat
05:33:58 pm CapAnalytics: . @LnDDave I think the greater challenge is knowing when you need to isolate–Yes. Isolation isn’t appropriate for everything. #lrnchat
05:34:54 pm briandusablon: RT @aaronesilvers: Q4) If performance improvement is an “event” then no one really owns it. If it’s continuous, it’s in the culture and everyone does. #lrnchat
05:35:33 pm aaronesilvers: Q4) Don’t get me wrong. I love events if they’re special. The bi-annual everyone clean your desk event is not special, nor is it PI #lrnchat
05:35:48 pm techherding: In general, if it costs money or is painful, 90% of the orgs I’ve worked with just aren’t serious about PI. You? #lrnchat
05:36:03 pm lrnchat: Q5) What incentives are there for individuals to improve performance? #lrnchat
05:36:11 pm thotstr: RT @aaronesilvers: Q4) If performance improvement is an “event” then no one really owns it. If it’s continuous, it’s in the culture and everyone does. #lrnchat
05:36:20 pm CapAnalytics: Q4) Is performance improvement always necessary? Sometimes root cause is processes or environment factors that need fixing first #lrnchat
05:36:41 pm kasey428: @techherding Yes, and those work for me. #lrnchat
05:36:43 pm briandusablon: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Test 4 not-serious-about-performance: Scott Adams would reject your real-life example as too silly for Dilbert. #lrnchat
05:37:14 pm JaneBozarth: Comin’ in late for #lrnchat. What’d I miss?
05:37:16 pm aaronesilvers: @techherding I think teams can get serious about PI. I don’t think any massive top-down-only initiative meets its goals #lrnchat
05:37:18 pm 4KM: #lrnchat link: MT @PeggyHolman When we discover we are not alone but part of a larger whole, something shifts. We commit to both.
05:37:26 pm briandusablon: Good question. Job security? Self-motivation? RT @lrnchat: Q5) What incentives are there for individuals to improve performance? #lrnchat
05:37:32 pm JD_Dillon: Q5) Incentives should be related to personal fulfillment and professional growth. $$/titles should coincide but not be the focus. #lrnchat
05:37:45 pm techherding: Q5) Incentive #1 is “New Job” #lrnchat
05:38:00 pm aaronesilvers: @briandusablon Sometimes, and you know this, you have to improve yourself with stealth. #lrnchat
05:38:13 pm techherding: Qhadaffi’s Dead RT @JaneBozarth: Comin’ in late for #lrnchat. What’d I miss?
05:38:17 pm ImagiRaven: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What incentives are there for individuals to improve performance? #lrnchat
05:38:20 pm briandusablon: @JaneBozarth only like, everything. We’re done now. We’ve solved all the world’s problems. Except for cheaper hashtags. #lrnchat
05:38:33 pm LnDDave: Q5) Incentive to improve? If you’re not moving forward, then you’re falling behind by standing still. #lrnchat
05:38:40 pm chrisstjohn: Performance improvement is a double edged sword we need to get our hands around. #lrnchat
05:38:44 pm cammybean: Q5) In this day in age the incentive to improve performance might simply be to keep your job! #lrnchat
05:38:48 pm aaronesilvers: @JaneBozarth do you offer a rent-to-own program for hashtags? #lrnchat
05:38:52 pm LnDDave: RT @cammybean: Q5) In this day in age the incentive to improve performance might simply be to keep your job! #lrnchat
05:38:53 pm briandusablon: @aaronesilvers shhhhhh. They’re listening. Oh. Wait. No they’re not. #lrnchat
05:38:54 pm ckagy: RT @cammybean: Q5) In this day in age the incentive to improve performance might simply be to keep your job! #lrnchat
05:39:02 pm aaronesilvers: @JaneBozarth Perhaps a subscription model? #lrnchat
05:39:04 pm OpenSesameNow: Better question might be “What mistakes do orgs make that interfere w/ individuals’ natural drive to improve?” #lrnchat
05:39:04 pm LnDDave: RT @briandusablon: @aaronesilvers shhhhhh. They’re listening. Oh. Wait. No they’re not. #lrnchat
05:39:14 pm briandusablon: RT @techherding: Q5) Incentive #1 is “New Job” #lrnchat
05:39:23 pm 4KM: Q5: We too rarely ask individuals what is meaningful to them. #lrnchat
05:39:28 pm cammybean: RT @OpenSesameNow: Better question might be “What mistakes do orgs make that interfere w/ individuals natural drive to improve?” #lrnchat
05:39:33 pm amirelion: Q5) Best incentive should be intrinsic. #lrnchat
05:39:40 pm techherding: RT @chrisstjohn: Performance improvement is a double edged sword we need to get our hands around. #lrnchat < 05:40:08 pm aaronesilvers: @cammybean dunno. Sometimes improving performance means fighting commonly accepted status quo. That can cost you a job, too. #lrnchat
05:40:09 pm AndreaMay1: RT @techherding: If it costs money or is painful, orgs just aren’t serious about PI. #lrnchat 05:41:38 pm briandusablon: Q5) I want to improve so I can help others improve, moving the whole ship forward. Doesn’t always work, but I feel better 4 trying. #lrnchat
05:41:51 pm amirelion: @cammybean Got me. Striving for Kiano Reeves performance at Matrix.
#lrnchat
05:41:56 pm aaronesilvers: RT @briandusablon: Q5) I want to improve so I can help others improve, moving the whole ship forward. Doesn’t always work, but I feel better 4 trying. #lrnchat
05:42:06 pm OpenSesameNow: @janebozarth Is there lay-away in time for the holidays?!?! My mom is dreaming of her very own hashtag in her stocking #lrnchat
05:42:18 pm briandusablon: RT @aaronesilvers: @cammybean dunno. Sometimes improving performance means fighting commonly accepted status quo. That can cost you a job, too. #lrnchat
05:43:40 pm chrisstjohn: Learning in NOT an event. It happens all the time, everywhere. #lrnchat
05:43:41 pm JaneBozarth: Q5 helps if managers know what ‘good performance’ looks like. Many don’t #CloseThatTicket #lrnchat
05:44:01 pm LnDDave: Q5) Incentives are positive; In many orgs Performance Improvement is addressed only as a failure after the fact. #lrnchat
05:44:12 pm CapAnalytics: RT @chrisstjohn: Remember, there is no “off” position on the learning switch. #lrnchat
05:44:23 pm 4KM: Q5 If an incentive-rich space can be created and protected, people will find their own. #lrnchat
05:44:25 pm kasey428: Q5) Why not ask employee what his or her motivators are? If no reward system, r we high-performers solely to feel good? #lrnchat
05:44:31 pm amirelion: @JaneBozarth So true. Also means we should start the journey with managers… #lrnchat
05:44:39 pm kasey428: RT @JaneBozarth: Q5 helps if managers know what good performance looks like. Many dont #CloseThatTicket #lrnchat
05:44:49 pm JD_Dillon: RT @LnDDave: Q5) Incentives are positive; In many orgs Performance Improvement is addressed only as a failure after the fact. #lrnchat
05:44:58 pm JD_Dillon: RT @chrisstjohn: Learning in NOT an event. It happens all the time, everywhere. #lrnchat
05:45:00 pm Dave_Ferguson: @4KM Re incentive-rich space: sure works for CEOs. #lrnchat
05:45:06 pm aaronesilvers: Nothing buys performance improvement like donuts. #lrnchat
05:45:49 pm 4KM: @Dave_Ferguson My iCal Alarm went “blap” right after you posted that! #lrnchat
05:45:50 pm AndreaMay1: RT @aaronesilvers: Nothing buys performance improvement like donuts. #lrnchat 05:45:57 pm JaneBozarth: RT @aaronesilvers: Nothing buys performance improvement like donuts. #lrnchat
05:34:22 pm C_More_Zebras: Q5) not to be a contrarian, but take a look at the disincentives to perform at the same time. #intheweeds #lrnchat
05:46:03 pm ITKnowConsult: RT @chrisstjohn: Learning in NOT an event. It happens all the time, everywhere. #lrnchat
05:46:06 pm LnDDave: Q5) It might also help if managers did not consider recognition of performance improvement by direct reports as a threat. #lrnchat
05:46:13 pm Dave_Ferguson: @aaronesilvers Depends on the individual, and on the doughnuts. #lrnchat
05:46:20 pm AlanMontague: Q5, surely it has to come down to Mastery, Autonomy or Purpose. or is @DanielPink wrong? #lrnchat
05:46:25 pm techherding: RT @aaronesilvers: Nothing buys performance improvement like donuts. #lrnchat << Current thinking has shown a switch to muffins.
05:46:34 pm 4KM: .@Dave_Ferguson I was thinking of some great light-touch, innovative groups I’ve seen – rich for intrinsic motivators #lrnchat
05:46:54 pm AndreaMay1: RT @LnDDave: Q5) It might help if managers did not consider recognition of performance improvement by direct reports as a threat. #lrnchat
05:46:54 pm briandusablon: Ha! RT @aaronesilvers: Nothing buys performance improvement like donuts. #lrnchat
05:46:58 pm aaronesilvers: @techherding tops of muffins, perhaps. #lrnchat
05:47:04 pm JaneBozarth: RT @LnDDave: Q5) It might also help if managers did not consider recognition of performance improvement by direct reports as a threat. #lrnchat
05:47:04 pm amirelion: All this means we should be asking very different questions inside our orgs. #lrnchat
05:47:04 pm KevinDJones: RT @cammybean: RT @OpenSesameNow: Better question might be “What mistakes do orgs make that interfere w/ individuals natural drive to improve?” #lrnchat
05:47:13 pm AlanMontague: LOL! RT @aaronesilvers: Nothing buys performance improvement like donuts. #lrnchat
05:47:24 pm OpenSesameNow: @lnddave Oooh, good one. #lrnchat
05:47:36 pm Dave_Ferguson: @4KM I realize that; I was just thinking of wildly out-of-kilter incentives some CEOs get for riding company as it nosedives. #lrnchat
05:47:38 pm LisaAGoldstein: RT @OpenSesameNow: Better question might be “What mistakes do orgs make that interfere w/ individuals natural drive to improve?” #lrnchat
05:47:44 pm briandusablon: RT @LnDDave: Q5) Might also help if managers did not consider recognition of performance improvement by direct reports as a threat. #lrnchat
05:47:45 pm JaneBozarth: @C_More_Zebras agree that disincentives to performance can be an equal problem #lrnchat
05:47:54 pm 4KM: Q5 Do we discourage the mavericks and disruptors when we reward the mainstream climbers? #lrnchat
05:48:08 pm kasey428: @LnDDave Great point! #lrnchat
05:48:12 pm bikespoke: RT @4KM: Q5 Do we discourage the mavericks and disruptors when we reward the mainstream climbers? #lrnchat
05:48:20 pm 4KM: @Dave_Ferguson And rightly so #lrnchat
05:48:36 pm OpenSesameNow: @kevindjones I really think most mgmnt teams have little idea what actually drives their people – gets worse in bigger orgs. #lrnchat
05:48:36 pm aaronesilvers: No merit pay increases for a third year in a row. We expect 12 hour productivity blocks M-F. But hey, I brought bagels! Yay team! #lrnchat
05:48:41 pm AlanMontague: RT @LnDDave: It might also help if managers did not consider recognition of performance improvement by direct reports as a threat. #lrnchat
05:48:43 pm amirelion: @4KM Seen it happen all the time! #lrnchat
05:49:12 pm CapAnalytics: Have to run–thanks everyone for a great time on our first #lrnchat!
05:49:19 pm 4KM: So, what would disruptor incentives look like? #lrnchat
05:49:24 pm kasey428: @4KM, let’s face it, Wall Street has paid for non-performance as well as it has for performance. Go figure. #lrnchat
05:49:58 pm AlanMontague: @LnDDave Personally I want to be surrounded by people who are smarter than me! #lrnchat
05:50:04 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome. #lrnchat
05:50:34 pm AndreaMay1: Q5)Fine line with incentives too…many people do just enough to gain incentive then fall back. Sustainability is key #lrnchat
05:50:37 pm LnDDave: @CapAnalytics Thanks for the stimulating discussion. Hope to see you in future chats. #lrnchat
05:50:42 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome. #lrnchat
05:50:56 pm briandusablon: Exactly. RT @bikespoke: RT @4KM: Q5 Do we discourage the mavericks and disruptors when we reward the mainstream climbers? #lrnchat
05:51:07 pm ImagiRaven: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome. #lrnchat
05:51:47 pm amirelion: Sorry I was able to join late today. One of the central topics in my POV. Will try to join late session (although it’s 3AM here…) #lrnchat
05:51:52 pm 4KM: Qwrap: thought provoking as usual. Thanks. Alice MacGillivray: I work w customized, lightly structured learning environments #lrnchat
05:51:52 pm C_More_Zebras: Christopher Allen, Allen Interactions & ZebraZapps, Minneapolis. Qwrap #lrnchat
05:51:53 pm briandusablon: @aaronesilvers Merit increases can be disincentive. Little to no differentiation between top performers and incompetents. #lrnchat
05:52:03 pm JD_Dillon: Qwrap) Thanks for the #lrnchat everyone! Keep the conversation going socially 24/7 and #learn it up! – JD
05:52:05 pm Dave_Ferguson: Abe Lincoln’s disruptor, the False Claims Act, helped feds recover $22 billion between 1987 – 2008. That’s perf imp. #lrnchat
05:52:21 pm chrisstjohn: Chris St.John at DAU – the WalMart of Learning, Empowering Tech Herder thumbing our nose at 1000s of yrs of educational tradition. #lrnchat
05:52:34 pm aaronesilvers: @briandusablon No increases can be disincentives too. Goes back to recognition vs. reward discussion a few weeks back. #lrnchat
05:52:44 pm cammybean: Qw) Cammy with Kineo — trying to #lrnchat and perform at the same time today — thanks for the fun!
#lrnchat
05:52:49 pm bikespoke: @briandusablon @4KM What is more valuable solving the problem, or connecting the dots. #lrnchat Not all minds alike.
05:52:53 pm gdochuk: I like this answer! RT @aaronsilvers Nothing buys performance improvement like donuts. #lrnchat
05:53:12 pm amirelion: Qwrap: I try looking at learning and performance as constant and unique riddles with lots of room for creative answers. #lrnchat
05:53:33 pm aaronesilvers: @gdochuk EVERYONE likes donuts. Even people with gluten allergies. #lrnchat
05:54:03 pm LnDDave: QWrap) David Kelly from NYC, looking forward to an expanded #DevLearn Backchannel in two weeks! http://t.co/xx1HUgwr #lrnchat
05:54:14 pm LnDDave: RT @AlanMontague: @LnDDave Personally I want to be surrounded by people who are smarter than me! #lrnchat << Ditto!
05:54:18 pm aaronesilvers: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Abe Lincoln’s disruptor, the False Claims Act, helped feds recover $22 billion between 1987 – 2008. That’s perf imp. #lrnchat
05:54:23 pm 4KM: @bikespoke @briandusablon Not to mention creating spaces where all those things and more can thrive #lrnchat
05:54:30 pm ImagiRaven: Qwrap Valerie Noll, enjoyed today’s insightful #lrnchat
05:54:35 pm briandusablon: Qwrap) Brian Dusablon: by day: Performance Consultant, Cubs fan, dad. By night: learning ninja, disruptor, guerrilla, entrepreneur. #lrnchat
05:54:42 pm AndreaMay1: Qwrap)Andrea May in Minneapolis. See my latest post: Gamification in Workplace Learning: The Role of Play http://t.co/MVg8mA9A #lrnchat
05:55:19 pm andrewtrickett: RT @4KM: Q5 Do we discourage the mavericks and disruptors when we reward the mainstream climbers? #lrnchat
05:55:37 pm OpenSesameNow: Qwrap) Kelly, from the OpenSesame elearning marketplace. Plugging our blog w/cool L&D discussions: http://t.co/FbfSnP2i #lrnchat
05:55:41 pm aaronesilvers: Aaron Silvers, Chicago. Gonna hit y’all at #DevLearn with news about big technology trends hitting your workplace in the next year. #lrnchat
05:55:43 pm AndreaMay1: Thanks Lrnchaters for another fun and insightful session
#lrnchat
05:55:53 pm gdochuk: @aaronesilvers Give me a Boston Cream or some custard-filled donut and I’m totally on board! #lrnchat
05:56:04 pm C_More_Zebras: you don’t need a reason other than making time to have fun: http://t.co/ayuDTQOB #lrnchat
05:56:24 pm AlanMontague: Qwrap Alan in Chicago. keep me crossed form me CPLP results out next week…
#lrnchat
05:56:40 pm bikespoke: RT @4KM: @bikespoke @briandusablon Not to mention creating spaces where all those things and more can thrive #lrnchat
05:56:58 pm 4KM: @gdochuk That helps make you eligible for the subsidized employee fitness program as well! #lrnchat
05:57:10 pm briandusablon: RT @aaronesilvers: Aaron Silvers, Chicago. Gonna hit y’all at #DevLearn with news about big technology trends hitting your workplace in the next year. #lrnchat
05:57:43 pm kasey428: Kay Wood, DC metro, consultant to feds on performance, elearning, social learning, learning-learning.Next: #devlearn11 #dl11 #lrnchat
05:58:40 pm amirelion: #lrnchat plz see my question for a lecture I’m preparing on Blue Ocean in HR fields http://t.co/RqwDKZNX
05:58:58 pm briandusablon: Qwrap) Shameless plugs: talking usability & accessibility at #DevLearn. Check out #TheToolBar w/ me & @jkunrein on @EmergentRadio. #lrnchat
05:59:10 pm lrnchat: Thanks for joining #lrnchat. We’ll post the transcript on http://t.co/O8x38OGR See you again next Thursday (or later tonight).
05:59:48 pm 4KM: @lrnchat Thanks for your work behind and during #lrnchat
06:00:11 pm kasey428: Actually will be talking about performance improvement & collaboration at #devlearn11 #dl11 #lrnchat
06:01:41 pm _SachinGaur: Imagine #lrning #simulations at this level-The #Gadget Show builds FPS simulator that shoots back (video) http://t.co/elQgegfQ #lrnchat
Transcript 13 October 2011(Late)
October 14, 20118:30:00 pm lrnchat: Welcome to #lrnchat! How have you been?
08:30:50 pm kelly_smith01: Is a slew of Tweets like a flock of geeses? #lrnchat #Millersanalogies
08:31:13 pm billcush: Definitely not! RT @TheAirton: ADDIE! Too early? @criticallearner: #lrnchat
08:31:51 pm billcush: Hope you feel better! RT @TriciaRansom: It’s #lrnchat tonight and I’m feeling so awful from this cold I might miss it. Drats.
08:33:29 pm marciamarcia: RT @kelly_smith01: Is a slew of Tweets like a flock of geeses? #lrnchat #Millersanalogies #lrnchat
08:34:00 pm TheAirton: Good I’m 2+ already RT @billcush: Definitely not! RT @TheAirton: ADDIE! Too early? @criticallearner: #lrnchat
08:34:58 pm minutebio: @kelly_smith01 Isn’t it a gaggle of geese? So, gaggle of tweets? #lrnchat
08:35:25 pm marciamarcia: Marcia Conner, founder of this there geeseflock, thrilled to join you for a bit before boybedtime. #lrnchat
08:35:47 pm minutebio: @kelly_smith01 Oops – gaggle of tweet… got ya #lrnchat
08:36:05 pm billcush: Let me help…Kirkpatrick! RT @TheAirton: Good I’m 2+ already ..RT @TheAirton: ADDIE! Too early? @criticallearner: #lrnchat
08:36:32 pm marciamarcia: @TriciaRansom: Hope you feel better soon! #lrnchat
08:37:51 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, freelancing some e-learning – Texas but have VPM #lrnchat
08:38:55 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, freelancing some e-learning – Texas but have VPN #lrnchat oops..
08:39:31 pm MMTingley: Trying to participate tonight, but I think the Internet is broken. #lrnchat
08:40:42 pm kellygarber: @billcush: Kirkpatrick! @TheAirton: ADDIE! @criticallearner < be careful, we don’t want to make either a trending topic! <drink> #lrnchat
08:40:56 pm criticallearner: David Glow, Tampa, FL- enjoying all mentions of learning styles, ADDIE, Kirkpatrick- excuse typos as #lrnchat goes on.
08:41:35 pm kelly_smith01: Participating in “Occupy ADDIE” #lrnchat
08:42:30 pm billcush: That depends….RT @kellygarber: Kirkpatrick! @TheAirton: ADDIE! @criticallearner don’t want to make either a trending topic! #lrnchat
08:42:45 pm kellygarber: Kelly Garber here, Gulfport-FL (the better side of the bay @criticallearner) – instructional designer. #lrnchat
08:42:53 pm TheAirton: Drinks +3 +4 #lrnchat
08:43:12 pm billcush: Tweet of the day! RT @kelly_smith01: Participating in “Occupy ADDIE” #lrnchat
08:44:06 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman – eLearning Designer/Developer running a one person shop in Baltimore #lrnchat
08:44:40 pm jmarrapodi: Q0 Jean Marrapodi Learning Architect working at the intersection of high tech and low literacy. On my iPhone from Providence, RI #lrnchat
08:44:51 pm benbutina: RT @kelly_smith01: Participating in “Occupy ADDIE”…this is what is great about the Internet: the specificity of the nerdiness. #lrnchat
08:45:17 pm marciamarcia: @billcush @kelly_smith01 Sadly, that’s still better than Occupy Kirkpatrick. #lrnchat
08:45:45 pm ReubenTozman: sorry I’m late. Reuben Tozman from edCetra – irrelevant and irreverent #lrnchat
08:46:26 pm billcush: Nice! RT @marciamarcia: @billcush @kelly_smith01 Sadly, that’s still better than Occupy Kirkpatrick. #lrnchat
08:46:44 pm aaronesilvers: Aaron Silvers. Chicago. Tweeting and eating tonight. #lrnchat
08:47:09 pm ThomasStone: Me too… at least the “being late” part RT @ReubenTozman: sorry I’m late. Reuben Tozman from edCetra – irrelevant and irreverent #lrnchat
08:47:14 pm ReubenTozman: RT @MMTingley: Trying to participate tonight, but I think the Internet is broken. – sorry…I broke it
#lrnchat
08:47:15 pm MMTingley: Melissa Tingley, eLearning ID and general edu-geek, Boston #lrnchat
08:47:42 pm ThomasStone: Thomas Stone, from Rochester, NY. Senior Research Analyst with Taleo Research. Hello fellow #lrnchat folks!
08:48:18 pm marciamarcia: Hmm… where are those questions? Off to check. BRB. #lrnchat
08:48:26 pm ReubenTozman: @ThomasStone you sir are relevant and irreverent…you beat me on relevance #lrnchat
08:48:31 pm cammybean: #lrnchat Cammy Bean. Putting kids to bed and pondering relevancy.
08:49:13 pm maubuchler: Mau Buchler instructional designer on the road
#lrnchat
08:49:17 pm kellygarber: RT @marciamarcia: Hmm… where are those questions? Off to check. BRB. <- you mean there is more to do tonight then drink? #lrnchat
08:49:23 pm ReubenTozman: RT @cammybean: #lrnchat Cammy Bean. Putting kids to bed and pondering relevancy. – I strap mine down #lrnchat
08:49:39 pm aaronesilvers: @cammybean ponder no longer. You are relevant. #lrnchat
08:51:04 pm ThomasStone: Attended a good GV ASTD event tonight: Donna Rawady (@drawady) on “Leadership Development: It Ain’t for Sissies!” #lrnchat #astd
08:51:11 pm lrnchat: We’re hoping you knew to chat and tell us how you’re doing. Sneak in sometime what you learned this week. #lrnchat
08:51:25 pm kelly_smith01: Rules we don’t need any stinking rules. #lrnchat
08:51:36 pm TheAirton: Airton, mouskateer, do learning things in Orlando for a university, mini-mogul #OccupyADDIE #lrnchat
08:51:39 pm cammybean: @ReubenTozman Well tonight there’s been a panic over a missing stuffed dog. #lrnchat
08:51:41 pm lrnchat: We skipped the #lrnchat rules tonight. If you’re new around here and need em, check out http://t.co/RTLmsBiF
08:52:01 pm sogarlene: Q0 I learned I may actually enjoy my educational research class this quarter. #lrnchat
08:52:57 pm ReubenTozman: q0) First LMS was built in 1959 #lrnchat
08:53:05 pm cammybean: #lrnchat I learned…about learning stuff. It was all relevant.
08:53:19 pm kelly_smith01: Q0) Had a meeting with people in 4 different time zone one zone was in Europe. #lrnchat
08:53:40 pm benbutina: Ben Butina. Instructional Designer in Pittsburgh. Probably be in and out. #lrnchat
08:53:56 pm kelly_smith01: RT @reubentozman: q0) First LMS was built in 1959 #lrnchat –> And version 1.1 is available next week.
08:53:59 pm ReubenTozman: q0) Lotus notes is a direct offshoot from the first LMS – which had integrated note taking #lrnchat
08:54:22 pm criticallearner: @reubentozman #lrnchat- First LMS built in ’59, too many still using the same specs from ’59.
08:54:25 pm LnDDave: Greetings #lrnchat, David Kelly from NYC popping in a bit for the evening session while I pack for #ASTDALC
08:54:30 pm lrnchat: Q1) Do training departments have the same influence today that they had 5 years ago? #lrnchat
08:54:40 pm ReubenTozman: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @reubentozman: q0) First LMS was built in 1959 #lrnchat –> And version 1.1 is available next week->lol #lrnchat
08:54:46 pm kellygarber: RT @ReubenTozman: q0) First LMS was built in 1959 <– and hasn’t changed since. #lrnchat
08:54:48 pm maubuchler: Q0) Built in a methodology for ESL online #lrnchat
08:54:49 pm jmarrapodi: RT @ReubenTozman: q0) First LMS was built in 1959 #lrnchat
08:55:38 pm minutebio: Learned 2day – No 1 volunteers to b a fire marshal @ work, it doesn’t come w uniform & I’m gettin even w sum1 #lrnchat
08:55:47 pm kotch62: RT @emasie: Archive of Masie Webinar: 7 Learning Challenges for 2012 http://t.co/OGhAtxPM #lrnchat #edtech #elearning #mlearning #astd #clo #hr #l2011
08:55:49 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Do training departments have the same influence today that they had 5 years ago? #lrnchat
08:55:52 pm ReubenTozman: RT @kellygarber: RT @ReubenTozman: q0) First LMS was built in 1959 <– and hasnt changed since.- actually it got worse over time #lrnchat
08:56:02 pm JaneBozarth: Geez I come in 20 minutes late and you’re already 80 minutes into the party. #lrnchat
08:56:14 pm sogarlene: Q1) My experience… more influence as we partner with mgmt to address their strategic and operational challenges #lrnchat
08:56:23 pm cammybean: #lrnchat q1) Now that’s an interesting question!
08:56:36 pm JaneBozarth: I come in a few minutes late and find out @kelly_smith01 already had tweet of the night #lrnchat
08:56:52 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Do training departments have the same influence today that they had 5 years ago? #lrnchat
08:57:00 pm marciamarcia: @cammybean <3 #lrnchat
08:57:12 pm ReubenTozman: q1) Training departments will always lack influence as training departments #lrnchat
08:57:34 pm minutebio: Q1) Hv seen training depts have less influence b/c they cannot deliver as quick as the web and SoMe can. #lrnchat
08:57:39 pm jmarrapodi: Q0) learned that some people just don’t get scenario based learning & crucify class when they teach w/ their attitude. #lrnchat
08:57:55 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Do training departments have the same influence today that they had 5 years ago? #lrnchat
08:57:57 pm JaneBozarth: q1 no. learners now have tools/ability to circumvent what’s prescribed and get what they need/want . JIT learning is finally real. #lrnchat
08:58:07 pm jmarrapodi: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Do training departments have the same influence today that they had 5 years ago? #lrnchat
08:58:33 pm marciamarcia: This week I learned about the Goldilocks Zone: space where earth resides btwn the sun & cold that’s “just right” #lrnchat
08:58:38 pm benbutina: Q1) Don’t training departments always lose influence (and money and staff and resources) during economic downturns? #lrnchat
08:58:44 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Since I’m a freelancer I cannot say from experience – but still see a proliferation a focus on knowledge not performance. #lrnchat
08:58:52 pm cammybean: RT @minutebio: Q1) Hv seen training depts have less influence b/c they cannot deliver as quick as the web and SoMe can. #lrnchat
08:58:54 pm TheAirton: Q1) no change no influence
#lrnchat btw night chat is better that day. Maybe due to drinks!
08:58:55 pm criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat L&D Depts have potential to be MORE relevant than ever. Now what they do with the opportunity…
08:59:18 pm jmarrapodi: @maubuchler Have you seen ELL-U? Awesome stuff. #lrnchat
08:59:22 pm ReubenTozman: RT @criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat L&D Depts have potential to be MORE relevant than ever. Now what they do with the opportunity… #lrnchat
08:59:33 pm jmarrapodi: RT @minutebio: Q1) Hv seen training depts have less influence b/c they cannot deliver as quick as the web and SoMe can. #lrnchat
08:59:44 pm MMTingley: RT @criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat L&D Depts have potential to be MORE relevant than ever. Now what they do with the opportunity… #lrnchat
08:59:50 pm kellygarber: Q1: I don’t think departments have influence – training or otherwise. People though …can be very influential. #lrnchat
09:00:10 pm JaneBozarth: RT @kelly_smith01: Q1)… still see a proliferation a focus on knowledge not performance. #lrnchat
09:00:25 pm Spongelab: Prepare for Halloween with Zombie science Facts: Real and Imagined (Infographic) http://t.co/RWnNHJrB #edtech #edchat #lrnchat #scichat
09:00:25 pm criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat more change in the world than ever, executed by people, needing skills- partnering right, train dept can be v. influential
09:00:55 pm ThomasStone: Q1) They had influence five years ago? Bum-bum, ching! I kid. Seriously I’d say *more* influence today IF they have evolved. #lrnchat
09:00:59 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Seems like some are acknowledging social media but maybe not know how to deal with social learning. #lrnchat
09:01:01 pm ReubenTozman: RT @kellygarber: Q1: I dont think departments have influence – training or otherwise. People though …can be very influential. #lrnchat
09:01:09 pm JaneBozarth: @ReubenTozman @criticallearner: they’ve always had ‘potential’… #lrnchat
09:01:13 pm cammybean: #lrnchat q1) doesn’t someone in these parts claim that…gasp…the training dept is dead?
09:01:14 pm minutebio: Q1) Those depts that act more as consultants than just “trainers” usually hv more influence in orgs #lrnchat
09:01:29 pm jmarrapodi: Q1) Have seen training depts lose focus in improving performance and think about Talent Management. #lrnchat
09:01:41 pm JaneBozarth: @criticallearner can. are they, though?
#lrnchat
09:01:46 pm marciamarcia: Training depts have lost influence b/c there are so many options on how/where to learn. Training is just one. #lrnchat
09:02:22 pm sogarlene: Q1) I’m lucky to be in a place that values learning. My experience may be twisted (in a good way) #lrnchat
#lrnchat
09:02:26 pm jmarrapodi: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @kelly_smith01: Q1)… still see a proliferation a focus on knowledge not performance. #lrnchat
09:02:41 pm JD_Dillon: 1) Learning orgs have the OPPORTUNITY to have more influence. #lrnchat
09:02:42 pm minutebio: RT @ReubenTozman: RT @kellygarber: dont think depts hv influence – training or otherwise. People tho …can be very influential. #lrnchat
09:03:03 pm criticallearner: @JaneBozarth #lrnchat- yes, many are evolving, capitalizing on the tools and environments that were not possible 5 yrs ago.
09:03:06 pm MMTingley: Shouldn’t that be the same thing? RT @jmarrapodi: Q1) … lose focus in improving performance and think about Talent Management. #lrnchat
09:03:07 pm ReubenTozman: q1) Training departments have always sh*t on themselves by siloing themselves. The whole exercise of building a separtate ROI model #lrnchat
09:03:07 pm ThomasStone: By evolve, I mean modernizing blended learning w/ social, etc. Saying no to some training requests & providing perf. supp. instead #lrnchat
09:03:32 pm EvilSue: oooooooh ouchies! Response Cammy? RT @cammybean: #lrnchat q1) doesn’t someone in these parts claim that…gasp…the training dept is dead?
09:03:43 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Think training departments fear user control/choice or the whole PULL approach. #lrnchat
09:03:52 pm cammybean: RT @marciamarcia: Training depts have lost influence b/c there are so many options on how/where to learn. Training is just one. #lrnchat
09:04:03 pm TriciaRansom: Q1) I think depts lost much “political capital” over last 5 years by being order takers rather than advocates for learners #lrnchat
09:04:12 pm JaneBozarth: @criticallearner ok #lrnchat
09:04:15 pm lrnchat: Q2) What did you think the training department would have accomplished by now? #lrnchat
09:04:15 pm criticallearner: Q1> #lrnchat- since information is more democratized and readily available, training can focus on performance issues (vs info delivery)
09:04:23 pm minutebio: Q1) Depts need 2 influence BOTH their learners & management/execs. Prob is too many only influence 1 of them #lrnchat
09:04:28 pm ReubenTozman: q1) I disagree that training depts have the potential. They must cease to be training departments if they want influence/impact #lrnchat
09:04:29 pm JD_Dillon: 1) Tech advancements and #SoMe give learning orgs a greater reach and opportunity to influence performance. #lrnchat
09:04:31 pm TheAirton: I got a shovel RT @cammybean: #lrnchat q1) doesn’t someone in these parts claim that…gasp…the training dept is dead?
09:04:36 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What did you think the training department would have accomplished by now? #lrnchat
09:04:45 pm criticallearner: RT @minutebio: Q1) Depts need 2 influence BOTH their learners & management/execs. Prob is too many only influence 1 of them #lrnchat
09:04:46 pm JaneBozarth: RT @marciamarcia: Training depts have lost influence b/c there are so many options on how/where to learn. Training is just one. #lrnchat
09:04:51 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What did you think the training department would have accomplished by now? #lrnchat
09:04:54 pm benbutina: @TriciaRansom Sometimes the learners fight against being advocated for. They have eaten junk for so long, it tastes good to them. #lrnchat
09:05:28 pm JaneBozarth: too long to RT but what @ReubenTozman said. #lrnchat
09:05:32 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What did you think the training department would have accomplished by now? #lrnchat
09:05:39 pm kellygarber: Q2: does this question assume we voted less influence for Q1? (I’m resisting this line of questions, i think) #lrnchat
09:05:42 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What did you think the training department would have accomplished by now? #lrnchat
09:05:50 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) By now, training should have established reliable resources and tools for frontline employees. #lrnchat
09:05:52 pm TriciaRansom: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What did you think the training department would have accomplished by now? #lrnchat
09:05:57 pm jmarrapodi: RT @MMTingley Shouldn’t that be the same thing? unfortunately improving perf ain’t talent management. Too often just competencies #lrnchat
09:06:00 pm sogarlene: @kelly_smith01 ah, the “need to know” syndrome. Tried action mapping with some success. http://t.co/sWdh0v9j #lrnchat
09:06:02 pm MMTingley: Q1) Just now noticing distinction btw Training Dept and, say, Learning Team. #lrnchat
09:06:23 pm EvilSue: RT @marciamarcia: Training depts have lost influence b/c there are so many options on how/where to learn. Training is just one. #lrnchat
09:06:36 pm britz: Q1) I think influence has grown …supported by the Training Industrial complex of course – its a BIG machine ppl #lrnchat
09:06:43 pm benbutina: Q2) Everything that was supposed to be the “next big thing” when I started 11 years ago is still just around the corner. #lrnchat
09:06:44 pm cammybean: #lrnchat q2) Heaven on earth, that’s what I’ve been expecting. Or at least more evolved cyborgs. At the very least better chotckes.
09:06:47 pm JaneBozarth: q2 I thought there’d be more, better online learning in place by now. #lrnchat
09:06:50 pm ReubenTozman: q2) Figured out that training is a subset of performance support (operations) and not vice versa #lrnchat
09:06:51 pm criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat I think the training dept (industry) would’ve accomplished NOT using PPT as a starting point by now #gunsdon’tkillbulletlistsdo
09:07:15 pm JaneBozarth: RT @ReubenTozman: q2) Figured out that training is a subset of performance support (operations) and not vice versa #lrnchat
09:07:40 pm minutebio: Q2) depts shld know by now what works online and what is best left in the traditional classroom. #lrnchat
09:07:43 pm mobilelearning: RT @kelly_smith01: Rules we don’t need any stinking rules. #lrnchat
09:07:46 pm britz: RT @JaneBozarth: q2 I thought thered be more, better online learning in place by now. #lrnchat
09:07:49 pm MMTingley: HA! RT @criticallearner: Q2> #gunsdontkillbulletlistsdo #lrnchat
09:07:50 pm minutebio: RT @JaneBozarth: q2 I thought thered be more, better online learning in place by now. #lrnchat
09:07:52 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) Hope they see the power of creating pathways to knowledge, expertise and performance improvement – not just creating learning. #lrnchat
09:07:54 pm criticallearner: RT @reubentozman: q2) Figured out that training is a subset of performance support (operations) and not vice versa #lrnchat
09:07:56 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) by now training should have predictable processes for developing quality materials, not bad PPTs for everything. #lrnchat
09:08:12 pm ReubenTozman: RT @JaneBozarth: q2 I thought thered be more, better online learning in place by now. ->Youdda thunk eh? #lrnchat
09:08:13 pm kellygarber: Q2: Training dept objectives are not their own – they align with the business unit/company objectives. (or should) #lrnchat
09:08:18 pm TriciaRansom: Q2) World domination…oh wait, this is bout training dept, not me… #lrnchat
09:08:41 pm cammybean: #lrnchat q2 Figured out that learning happens everywhere you look. especially not in a classroom.
09:08:42 pm purplelearn: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Do training departments have the same influence today that they had 5 years ago? #lrnchat
09:08:42 pm criticallearner: Q2) #lrnchat I think industry would’ve accomplished using training to drive strategic bus. objectives vs “proving compliance”
09:08:43 pm craigsimon66: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Do training departments have the same influence today that they had 5 years ago? #lrnchat
09:08:48 pm ReubenTozman: RT @kellygarber: Q2: Training dept objectives are not their own – they align with the business unit/company objectives. (or should) #lrnchat
09:08:52 pm sogarlene: Q2) Matrix style plug and and learn skills immediately! Or maybe design for real learning transfer more consistently #lrnchat
09:08:58 pm JaneBozarth: @minutebio heard from 1 agency today: 100% employees have daily computer access. 0% training delivered online. #lrnchat
09:08:58 pm purplelearn: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What did you think the training department would have accomplished by now? #lrnchat
09:08:59 pm minutebio: Q2) Know how 2 hire qualified trainers instead of good SMEs #lrnchat
09:08:59 pm craigsimon66: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What did you think the training department would have accomplished by now? #lrnchat
09:09:08 pm JaneBozarth: RT @cammybean: #lrnchat q2 Figured out that learning happens everywhere you look. especially not in a classroom. #lrnchat
09:09:09 pm maubuchler: RT @cammybean: #lrnchat q2 Figured out that learning happens everywhere you look. especially not in a classroom.
09:09:20 pm MMTingley: Q2) Oh, maybe, that reading glossary terms out loud does not an eLearning module make. #lrnchat
09:09:22 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) Thought we could create 5-inch three ring binders for course materials. (Remember the sarcasm rule.) #lrnchat
09:09:24 pm JD_Dillon: @criticallearner – great point! #lrnchat
09:09:33 pm jmarrapodi: Still seeing too many classes for class sake. Even biz #highered may forget the end result. Like @JaneBozarth said knowledge only #lrnchat
09:09:45 pm ReubenTozman: RT @minutebio: Q2) Know how 2 hire qualified trainers instead of good SMEs – Its the university model. SMEs not teachers #lrnchat
09:10:13 pm minutebio: @JaneBozarth Heck, we have 100% mobile phone access and no m-learning
#lrnchat
09:10:16 pm criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat Hope we would’ve learned by now that a new medium (ILT to WBT, WBT to Mobile) does not mean “repackage stuff”
09:10:37 pm jmarrapodi: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What did you think the training department would have accomplished by now? #lrnchat
09:10:37 pm sogarlene: Q2) agree totally with ReubenTozman… performance support is essential. Hadn’t considered the flip you suggest. pondering #lrnchat
09:10:52 pm JaneBozarth: RT @criticallearner: Hope we wouldve learned by now that a new medium (ILT to WBT, WBT to Mobile) does not mean “repackage stuff” #lrnchat
09:10:54 pm TriciaRansom: Signing off. Bad accident outside and hubby went out to help. Hope everyone is ok. #lrnchat
09:11:04 pm JaneBozarth: RT @minutebio: @JaneBozarth Heck, we have 100% mobile phone access and no m-learning
#lrnchat
09:11:41 pm criticallearner: Q2) #lrnchat hope we would’ve accomplished more real embedding of learning/support in natural workflow vs going to training/taking a course
09:11:55 pm purplelearn: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @minutebio: @JaneBozarth Heck, we have 100% mobile phone access and no m-learning
#lrnchat
09:11:55 pm craigsimon66: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @minutebio: @JaneBozarth Heck, we have 100% mobile phone access and no m-learning
#lrnchat
09:11:59 pm JaneBozarth: @reubentozman oh dear SOOOOO many classroom trainers trying to stop it #lrnchat
09:12:37 pm ReubenTozman: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Thought we could create 5-inch three ring binders for course materials. -> CD Binder #lrnchat
09:13:04 pm jmarrapodi: RT @benbutina Q2) Everything that was supposed to be the “next big thing” when I started 11 yrs ago is still just around the corner #lrnchat
09:13:20 pm JaneBozarth: RT @criticallearner hope we wouldve accomplished more embedding in natural workflow vs going to training/taking a course #lrnchat
09:13:23 pm rdeis: RT @criticallearner Q2) hope we wouldve accomplished embedding of learning/support in workflow vs going to training/taking a course #lrnchat
09:13:24 pm criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat Hope we would’ve accomplished developing a training module for Jetsons-like flying cars #wheresmyflyingcar
09:13:24 pm jmarrapodi: RT @ReubenTozman: q2) Figured out that training is a subset of performance support (operations) and not vice versa #lrnchat
09:14:25 pm JaneBozarth: @criticallearner now discouraging to see so many anting to ‘implement social’ as yet another separate thing out of workflow– #lrnchat
09:14:29 pm ReubenTozman: @JaneBozarth I’m sure – but here’s the kicker. If you cut access to the SME in a class, heaven forbid, you may have to lose it, no? #lrnchat
09:14:33 pm kelly_smith01: And to think m-learning extends/supplements learning not (I repeat not) replace training. #lrnchat
09:14:59 pm MMTingley: Q2) I’d hoped we could do cooler stuff, we’re getting there in terms of affordability, but still a long road. #lrnchat
09:15:05 pm JaneBozarth: @rdeis Ok srsly I did think I’d have a flying car by now. #lrnchat
09:15:07 pm kellaprice: See you tomorrow in person!Woohoo! RT @LnDDave Greetings #lrnchat, David Kelly from NYC while I pack for #ASTDALC
09:15:12 pm criticallearner: Q2) #lrnchat hope we would’ve accomplished another ADDIE mention by now #staythirstymyfriends
09:15:19 pm cammybean: Meanwhile, PBS is showing a special on Prohibition. #ofspecialinteresttothiscrowd
#lrnchat
09:15:24 pm MMTingley: RT @kelly_smith01: And to think m-learning extends/supplements learning not (I repeat not) replace training. #lrnchat
09:15:40 pm minutebio: Q2) Thought we’d have more people asking us to id training needs, instead of telling us. Still training ‘em #lrnchat
09:15:54 pm JaneBozarth: @ReubenTozman that ain’t the concern, i’m afraid. #lrnchat
09:16:03 pm britz: RT @cammybean: Meanwhile, PBS is showing a special on Prohibition. #ofspecialinteresttothiscrowd / BTW – saw it, it’s gr8 #lrnchat
09:16:20 pm cammybean: @JaneBozarth As if “social learning” was just invented in the last two years.
#lrnchat
09:16:20 pm JaneBozarth: Bunch of lrnchatting inebriates RT @cammybean: Meanwhile, PBS is showing a special on Prohibition. #ofspecialinteresttothiscrowd #lrnchat
09:16:21 pm kellaprice: Trying to learn all the new #Hootsuite functions! En route to #astdalc RT @lrnchat Sneak in sometime what you learned this week. #lrnchat
09:16:32 pm kellygarber: Q2: thought we would have accomplished realizing that our role is to help others accomplish #lrnchat
09:16:48 pm ReubenTozman: q2) That instructional designers are not developers and vice versa? #lrnchat
09:17:07 pm jmarrapodi: There, just not used RT @JD_Dillon Q2) by now trng shld have predictable proc 4 dev quality materials, not bad PPTs 4 everything. #lrnchat
09:17:15 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) I would hope training events move closer (delivery) to the job and closer to the time of performance. #lrnchat
09:17:16 pm JaneBozarth: Wasn’t it? We must know different people RT @cammybean: As if “social learning” was just invented in the last two years. #lrnchat
09:17:16 pm minutebio: Q2) Thought training managers would know how long it takes the eLearning needs to develop a course #lrnchat
09:17:28 pm minutebio: RT @kellygarber: Q2: thought we would have accomplished realizing that our role is to help others accomplish #lrnchat
09:17:33 pm jmarrapodi: RT @kellygarber: Q2: Training dept objectives are not their own – they align with the business unit/company objectives. (or should) #lrnchat
09:17:43 pm MMTingley: Heck, now SMEs are developers! RT @ReubenTozman: q2) That instructional designers are not developers and vice versa? #lrnchat
09:17:47 pm britz: Q2) I thought they’d finally figure out you can’t put 10lbs in a 5lb bag! #lrnchat
09:17:56 pm minutebio: RT @ReubenTozman: q2) That instructional designers are not developers and vice versa? | Unless they have 2 b #lrnchat
09:18:07 pm sogarlene: Q2) at ReubenTozman … or just having folks understand the difference between design and development. doh! #lrnchat
#lrnchat
09:18:16 pm criticallearner: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) I would hope training events move closer (delivery) to the job and closer to the time of performance. #lrnchat
09:18:25 pm minutebio: RT @britz: Q2) I thought theyd finally figure out you cant put 10lbs in a 5lb bag! #lrnchat
09:18:29 pm kelly_smith01: Q1) Social learning started before the one-room schoolhouse . #lrnchat
09:18:30 pm rjpanetti: RT @JaneBozarth: @criticallearner nto ‘implement social’ as yet another separate thing out of workflow– #lrnchat <— huge obstacle…
09:18:45 pm idol_era: RT@JaneBozarth: RT @cammybean: #lrnchat q2 Figured out that learning happens everywhere you look. especially not in a classroom. #lrnchat
09:19:03 pm idol_era: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @criticallearner hope we wouldve accomplished more embedding in natural workflow vs going to training/taking a course #lrnchat
09:19:11 pm criticallearner: @minutebio #lrnchat- oh please don’t get me started on how SMEs can miss every deadline, and they expect us to crash schedule to meet date
09:19:13 pm TheAirton: Q2) Training seems happy with filling requests/orders when it should be providing solutions. #lrnchat
09:19:15 pm JaneBozarth: @rjpanetti huge bottle of pricey snake oil. I’ll sell you some social. Wanna buy a silo? #lrnchat
09:19:36 pm cammybean: Q2) @ReubenTozman Instead they try to cram more skills and talents into one
individual…the poor one-stop elearning shop! #lrnchat
09:19:42 pm rjpanetti: @JaneBozarth @criticallearner instead of simplifying processes they add one more thing to worry about #lrnchat
09:19:59 pm rdeis: RT @kelly_smith01: Q1) Social learning started before the one-room schoolhouse . #lrnchat
09:20:03 pm criticallearner: RT @britz: Q2) I thought they’d finally figure out you can’t put 10lbs in a 5lb bag! #lrnchat
09:20:39 pm ReubenTozman: q2) Maybe we would have figured out that cheating is ok when auditors aren’t looking over our shoulder. Its the answer that matters #lrnchat
09:20:47 pm britz: Q2) I thought they’d realize they need to invert the model of Lots of time training, Little time for reflection to be effective #lrnchat
09:20:50 pm ReubenTozman: q2) I like cheating #lrnchat
09:20:54 pm jmarrapodi: PREACH!!!! RT @cammybean q2 Figured out that learning happens everywhere you look. especially not in a classroom. #lrnchat
09:21:02 pm criticallearner: RT @rjpanetti: @JaneBozarth @criticallearner instead of simplifying processes they add one more thing to worry about #lrnchat
09:21:22 pm JaneBozarth: by the $$pile-load “implement social” RT @rjpanetti: instead of simplifying processes they add one more thing to worry about #lrnchat
09:21:30 pm minutebio: RT @jmarrapodi: PREACH!!!! RT @cammybean q2 Figured out that learning happens everywhere you look. especially not in a classroom. #lrnchat
09:21:41 pm rdeis: RT @jmarrapodi: PREACH!!!! RT @cammybean q2 Figured out that learning happens everywhere you look. especially not in a classroom. #lrnchat
09:21:43 pm JaneBozarth: @criticallearner … and convince others it has to be complicated #lrnchat
09:21:54 pm TheAirton: No ADDIE. Drink anyways. #lrnchat
09:22:06 pm cammybean: @ReubenTozman It’s not cheating, it’s collaborating. #lrnchat
09:22:10 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat Social Learning started when caveman 1 asked caveman 2 to try to attack the night’s dinner from a different angle
09:22:17 pm JaneBozarth: RT @cammybean: @ReubenTozman It’s not cheating, it’s collaborating. #lrnchat
09:22:19 pm rjpanetti: @JaneBozarth no need to buy silos. Give people Sharepoint and they will make their own! #lrnchat
09:22:19 pm jmarrapodi: RT @britz: Q2) I thought they’d finally figure out you can’t put 10lbs in a 5lb bag! #lrnchat
09:22:30 pm jmarrapodi: RT @kelly_smith01: Q1) Social learning started before the one-room schoolhouse . #lrnchat
09:22:37 pm JaneBozarth: RT @rjpanetti: @JaneBozarth no need to buy silos. Give people Sharepoint and they will make their own! #lrnchat
09:22:54 pm MMTingley: Bah! RT @rjpanetti: @JaneBozarth no need to buy silos. Give people Sharepoint and they will make their own! #lrnchat
09:22:57 pm exesyle: RT @cammybean: @ReubenTozman It’s not cheating, it’s collaborating. #lrnchat
09:23:04 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @rjpanetti: @JaneBozarth no need to buy silos. Give people Sharepoint and they will make their own! #lrnchat
09:23:06 pm ReubenTozman: RT @cammybean: @ReubenTozman Its not cheating, its collaborating.->lol, not if your alone…??? #lrnchat
09:23:37 pm jmarrapodi: RT @minutebio #lrnchat- O please dont get me started on how SMEs cn miss every deadline, & they expect us 2 crash schedule 2 meet date
09:23:54 pm lrnchat: Q3) What do training depts do well that people don’t always notice they do well? #lrnchat
09:23:55 pm cammybean: @ReubenTozman Oh, I collaborate with myself all the time
#lrnchat
09:24:09 pm purplelearn: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What do training depts do well that people don’t always notice they do well? #lrnchat
09:24:10 pm craigsimon66: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What do training depts do well that people don’t always notice they do well? #lrnchat
09:24:10 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What do training depts do well that people dont always notice they do well? #lrnchat
09:24:14 pm ReubenTozman: Why is Grey’s Anatomy about surgically removing the … #lrnchat
09:24:16 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What do training depts do well that people dont always notice they do well? #lrnchat
09:24:23 pm criticallearner: Q2> #lrnchat I hoped by now we’d realized kids disrupting class (like S. Jobs) was often actually a sign of things to improve
09:24:26 pm kelly_smith01: Silos were a concept in practice before they were tall thingees for grain or barriers in an enterprise. #lrnchat
09:24:42 pm rdeis: Q2) Thought they would know the first choice shouldn’t always be the classroom. #lrnchat
09:24:45 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What do training depts do well that people don’t always notice they do well? #lrnchat
09:24:48 pm JaneBozarth: q3 Flip charting? #lrnchat
09:24:53 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What do training depts do well that people dont always notice they do well? #lrnchat
09:25:01 pm JD_Dillon: Q3) learning orgs are in a great place to appreciate and share company culture, not create it. #lrnchat
09:25:01 pm britz: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What do training depts do well that people dont always notice they do well? #lrnchat
09:25:10 pm JaneBozarth: I really have to say even lrnchat is having a difficult time competing w Grey’s Anatomy tonight… #lrnchat
09:25:14 pm ReubenTozman: @nancysafar from @edcetrat is watching and telling me about the harvesting #lrnchat
09:25:20 pm cammybean: q3 ice breakers! #lrnchat
09:25:23 pm JaneBozarth: q3. Posting ground rules? #lrnchat
09:25:28 pm jmarrapodi: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What do training depts do well that people don’t always notice they do well? #lrnchat
09:25:36 pm minutebio: Q3) Depts do well @ knowing their audience. People r surprised @ how well we know em & their lrning needs #lrnchat
09:25:46 pm britz: Q3) chew up employees valuable time? oh wait…they notice that #lrnchat
09:25:54 pm sogarlene: Q3) process mapping, process improvement, needs assessment, employee engagement, culture building #lrnchat
#lrnchat
09:26:02 pm cammybean: q3 Being really enthusiastic in a classroom in order to generate “motivation” and “buy-in” #lrnchat
09:26:24 pm minutebio: Q3) Knowing technology #lrnchat
09:26:28 pm ReubenTozman: q3) Managing political landmines #lrnchat
09:26:37 pm minutebio: RT @cammybean: q3 Being really enthusiastic in a classroom in order to generate “motivation” and “buy-in” #lrnchat
09:26:50 pm kellygarber: RT @britz: Q3) chew up employees valuable time? oh wait…they notice that #lrnchat
09:27:46 pm minutebio: RT @ReubenTozman: q3) Managing political landmines | Yes, & navigating around them. #lrnchat
09:27:55 pm kelly_smith01: RT @cammybean: q3 ice breakers! #lrnchat —> How many “ice breakers 4 trainers” books have been published?
09:28:02 pm jmarrapodi: RT @rdeis: Q2) Thought they would know the first choice shouldn’t always be the classroom. #lrnchat
09:28:04 pm chris_garber: RT @kellygarber: Q2: thought we would have accomplished realizing that our role is to help others accomplish #lrnchat
09:28:18 pm ReubenTozman: q3) Creating lots of 5 inch 3 ring binders #lrnchat
09:28:25 pm rjpanetti: Q3) provide reports on training volume. Butts in seats, certifications, various other metrics slightly associated with learning #lrnchat
09:28:28 pm minutebio: Q3) Truly caring about people’s professional development #lrnchat
09:29:00 pm jmarrapodi: Hey! it’s an art to be good at it. RT @JaneBozarth q3 Flip charting? #lrnchat
09:29:19 pm kelly_smith01: Asking everyone to introduce themselves and tell us one thing unique about them. #lrnchat
09:29:49 pm MariaOD: Hi #lrnchat! q3: We make the best coffee…well that is when we know the difference b/t regular and decaf! #lrnchat #whatl&ddowell
09:29:50 pm minutebio: Q3) Knowing how to skirt around IT’s cooky rules #lrnchat
09:30:12 pm JaneBozarth: @jmarrapodi didn’t say it wasn’t #lrnchat
09:30:18 pm kellygarber: @chris_garber well hello bro! – thanks for the drive by RT of #lrnchat
09:30:20 pm criticallearner: RT @minutebio: Q3) Knowing how to skirt around IT’s cooky rules #lrnchat
09:30:22 pm jmarrapodi: Multitasking…RT @JaneBozarth I really have to say even lrnchat is having a difficult time competing w Grey’s Anatomy tonight… #lrnchat
09:31:02 pm jmarrapodi: RT @sogarlene: Q3) process mapping, process improvement, needs assessment, employee engagement, culture building #lrnchat
#lrnchat
09:31:02 pm onEnterFrame: q3) separate training issues from performance issues. #lrnchat
09:31:02 pm kelly_smith01: Seeing social media, social learning, sometimes e-learning, m-learning, informal learning and pull learning as a threat. #lrnchat
09:31:03 pm ReubenTozman: q3) Having implemented new accounting principles and possibly new economic rules by creating their own ROI model #lrnchat
09:31:03 pm MariaOD: q3: We are pretty good at getting things out just in time. Maybe even proactive and anticipatory. #lrnchat
09:31:29 pm ReubenTozman: RT @minutebio: Q3) Knowing how to skirt around ITs cooky rules ->yes #lrnchat
09:31:34 pm jmarrapodi: RT @cammybean: q3 Being really enthusiastic in a classroom in order to generate “motivation” and “buy-in” #lrnchat
09:31:40 pm rebeccalcorn: Want to participate in #lrnchat, but I’m in DC at #ASTDALC2011 and the hotel charges for wifi. Too much work to participate on phone.
09:31:41 pm slhice: Q3) Being Corporate Communications Police Squad #lrnchat
09:31:48 pm kelly_smith01: RT @slhice: Q3) Being Corporate Communications Police Squad #lrnchat
09:31:59 pm onEnterFrame: good one RT @minutebio: Q3) Knowing how to skirt around IT’s cooky rules #lrnchat
09:32:12 pm billcush: Thanks goodness. Without ground rules, I wouldn’t know that its ok to use the restroom. RT @janebozarth: q3. Posting ground rules? #lrnchat
09:32:21 pm criticallearner: Q3) #lrnchat Training Depts are very good at turning what should be a double sided job aid into a fully interactive course #notafan
09:32:30 pm britz: Q3) When training is really needed, and they have their sh*t together…then train, that’s what they are good at #lrnchat
09:32:52 pm MariaOD: q3: we can tell you how to change a tire in about 30 steps given a competent mechanic and some tools. #lrnchat
09:32:53 pm criticallearner: RT @mariaod: q3: We are pretty good at getting things out just in time. Maybe even proactive and anticipatory. #lrnchat
09:33:00 pm JaneBozarth: RT @billcush: Thanks goodness. Without ground rules, I wouldn’t know that its ok to use the restroom. RT @janebozarth: q3. Posting ground rules? #lrnchat
09:33:00 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What do training depts do well that people don’t always notice they do well? #lrnchat
09:33:17 pm kellygarber: RT @britz: Q3) When training is really needed, and they have their sh*t together…then train, thats what they are good at #lrnchat
09:33:24 pm JD_Dillon: Q3) Learning orgs can help remind a company of where it’s revenue comes from: it’s employees. #lrnchat
09:33:45 pm billcush: Q3) Mostly, training departments do a nice job getting new people ready for their jobs. #lrnchat
09:33:57 pm minutebio: Q3) We’re good at marketing courses. #lrnchat
09:33:58 pm MMTingley: Q3)Finding creative ways to present “need to know” stuff; Addressing human element even thru eLearning #lrnchat
09:34:38 pm jmarrapodi: RT @criticallearner: RT @minutebio: Q3) Knowing how to skirt around IT’s cooky rules #lrnchat
09:34:48 pm JD_Dillon: #Learning is a continuous, never-ending process. #Training is an event. #lrnchat
09:34:50 pm TheAirton: Q3) Using the Kirkpatrick 4 Levels of Eval #Lrnchat #OccupyADDIE
09:35:00 pm Dave_Ferguson: @billcush I’d say trng dept CAN get new people to acceptable entry-level skill at their jobs–though doesn’t always manage that. #lrnchat
09:35:02 pm kelly_smith01: RT @minutebio: Q3) We’re good at marketing courses. #lrnchat —-> And making smile sheets.
09:35:24 pm chris_garber: RT @kellygarber: @chris_garber well hello bro! – thanks for the drive by RT of #lrnchat <– @tapscout, must learn about this “drive by” RT
09:35:25 pm lrnchat: Q4) What do training depts try to do that they suck at? #lrnchat
09:35:25 pm criticallearner: Q3) #lrnchat Training Depts generally good at understanding how to run a good webcast vs just tool mechanics
09:35:45 pm minutebio: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do training depts try to do that they suck at? #lrnchat
09:36:05 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do training depts try to do that they suck at? #lrnchat
09:36:06 pm rjpanetti: Q3) asking tough questions. you can expose the elephant in room by insisting something needs to make sense 2 teach it to others #lrnchat
09:36:14 pm minutebio: Q4) Showing ROI #lrnchat
09:36:17 pm Dave_Ferguson: Small (inc 1-person) training dept often very user-job-focused b/c it doesn’t have time to waste on L&D rituals. #lrnchat
09:36:20 pm kellygarber: Q4: seriously? #lrnchat
09:36:26 pm MariaOD: Q4: We suck at ROI. #lrnchat
09:36:28 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) #Learning orgs are usually pretty bad at saying “NO” even when they disagree with a client. #lrnchat
09:36:29 pm craigsimon66: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do training depts try to do that they suck at? #lrnchat
09:36:34 pm MMTingley: Q4) Heh. Making compliance interesting. #lrnchat
09:36:40 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do training depts try to do that they suck at? #lrnchat
09:36:47 pm jmarrapodi: RT @JD_Dillon: #Learning is a continuous, never-ending process. #Training is an event. #lrnchat
09:36:50 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do training depts try to do that they suck at? #lrnchat
09:36:52 pm cammybean: RT @JD_Dillon: Q4) #Learning orgs are usually pretty bad at saying “NO” even when they disagree with a client. #lrnchat
09:37:05 pm Dave_Ferguson: ROI, even outside of training, is often just a designer label for puffery. What was the ROI of Daimler-Chrysler? #lrnchat
09:37:08 pm kelly_smith01: Q4) Evaluating the “effectiveness” of courseware (or training event(s). #lrnchat
09:37:20 pm jmarrapodi: RT @billcush: Q3) Mostly, training departments do a nice job getting new people ready for their jobs. #lrnchat
09:37:21 pm billcush: Q4) Improve business results. Performance consulting. #lrnchat
09:37:22 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) In many instances, desktop publishing #lrnchat
09:37:22 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Dave_Ferguson: ROI, even outside of training, is often just a designer label for puffery. What was the ROI of Daimler-Chrysler? #lrnchat
09:37:22 pm rjpanetti: Q4) performance consulting #lrnchat
09:37:24 pm criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Training Depts generally poor at saying “No, that’s not even close to a learning project for us”
09:37:29 pm jmarrapodi: RT @MMTingley: Q3)Finding creative ways to present “need to know” stuff; Addressing human element even thru eLearning #lrnchat
09:37:51 pm criticallearner: RT @mmtingley: Q4) Heh. Making compliance interesting. #lrnchat > Heh, indeed.
09:37:52 pm cammybean: q4) adapt #lrnchat
09:37:57 pm onEnterFrame: q4) #lrnchat Saying no when asked to create/deliver bad training. Bowing to ‘customer’ pressure.
09:38:00 pm rjpanetti: RT @criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Training Depts generally poor at saying “No, that’s not even close to a learning project for us”
09:38:09 pm britz: RT @cammybean: q4) adapt #lrnchat
09:38:11 pm billcush: Yep! RT @rjpanetti: Q4) performance consulting #lrnchat
09:38:13 pm sogarlene: Q4) evaluation in general, not just roi
#lrnchat
09:38:15 pm criticallearner: RT @kelly_smith01: Q4) Evaluating the “effectiveness” of courseware (or training event(s). #lrnchat > Better said!
09:38:16 pm MMTingley: Q4) Follow-up #lrnchat
09:38:39 pm billcush: RT @criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Training Depts generally poor at saying “No, that’s not even close to a learning project for us”
09:38:48 pm jmarrapodi: Or at least using smile sheets & their stats. 1:4 still counts RT @TheAirton Q3) Using the Kirkpatrick 4 Levels of Eval #Lrnchat
09:38:48 pm minutebio: RT @MMTingley: Q4) Follow-up #lrnchat
09:38:55 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) 3 letters = PPT #lrnchat
09:39:03 pm cammybean: q4) Educating internal customers about better solutions instead of being order takers. #lrnchat
09:39:04 pm TheAirton: Q3) The fact I/We are more effective informally #lrnchat
09:39:05 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do training depts try to do that they suck at? #lrnchat
09:39:10 pm ReubenTozman: q4) Being part of the business #lrnchat
09:39:10 pm minutebio: RT @billcush: RT @criticallearner: Training Depts generally poor at saying “No, thats not even close to a learning project for us” #lrnchat
09:39:12 pm Dave_Ferguson: To be fair, many trng departments are resonating the latest spasms infecting senior management outside of L&D. #lrnchat
09:39:19 pm JaneBozarth: q4 evaluate #lrnchat
09:39:23 pm britz: Q4) hiring …SME’s are not born trainers #lrnchat
09:39:25 pm criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat training depts bad at letting go of sacred cows (ADDIE) and myths (learning styles) GLUG!
09:39:35 pm JaneBozarth: q4 performance support #lrnchat
09:39:48 pm MariaOD: Q4: Performance consulting.
#lrnchat
09:39:52 pm kellygarber: Q4: Any dept. bad at doing something that is outside the skill set of the collective team #lrnchat
09:39:53 pm JaneBozarth: RT @criticallearner: Training Depts generally poor at saying “No, thats not even close to a learning project for us” #lrnchat
09:39:54 pm minutebio: RT @JaneBozarth: q4 performance support #lrnchat
09:39:54 pm kelly_smith01: Q4) They don’t ask client “Have you identified an exemplary performer?” #lrnchat
09:39:58 pm ReubenTozman: q4) If we all hate the PPT why do we all use it during our own conferences. I still don’t know #wesuck #lrnchat
09:40:06 pm rjpanetti: RT @britz: RT @cammybean: q4) adapt #lrnchat
09:40:07 pm criticallearner: RT @reubentozman: q4) Being part of the business #lrnchat > PERFECTLY STATED! Too often, a side dish (like SoMe, “value”…)
09:40:17 pm billcush: @criticallearner sometimes training depts have hard time saying ‘yes’ choosing to argue w biz instead of giving cust what they want #lrnchat
09:40:48 pm sogarlene: q4) regarding saying no-agree we are coerced into many things in the name of learning, but could we redirect vs saying no outright? #lrnchat
09:40:51 pm JaneBozarth: @ReubenTozman I don’t hate the PPT. Not the tool’s fault. #lrnchat
09:40:54 pm cammybean: RT @ReubenTozman: q4) If we all hate the PPT why do we all use it during our own conferences. I still dont know #wesuck #lrnchat
09:40:58 pm britz: RT @kelly_smith01: Q4) They dont ask client “Have you identified an exemplary performer?” / I did that today tho ..phew!
#lrnchat
09:41:10 pm cammybean: RT @JaneBozarth: @ReubenTozman I dont hate the PPT. Not the tools fault. #lrnchat
09:41:31 pm Dave_Ferguson: RT @JaneBozarth: @ReubenTozman I dont hate the PPT. Not the tools fault. // No, it’s often the fault of the tools.
#lrnchat
09:41:46 pm minutebio: Q4) Narrating our own online courses in our best FM radio voice. #lrnchat
09:41:50 pm ReubenTozman: RT @JaneBozarth: @ReubenTozman I dont hate the PPT. Not the tools fault. -> True…but we still make crap point presentations #lrnchat
09:41:51 pm criticallearner: Q4> #lrnchat Generally, training depts suck at speaking the language of business vs business of training.
09:41:54 pm slhice: Q4) Integrate success mgmt/assurance from the get go to ensure ROI can be demonstrated. #lrnchat
09:42:07 pm JaneBozarth: I’m tired of RTing @ReubenTozman . Just… whatever he said. That. #lrnchat
09:42:09 pm britz: Q4) knowing the difference between training and facilitation #lrnchat
09:42:15 pm kelly_smith01: PPT doesn’t kill learning –> the delivery does. #lrnchat
09:42:22 pm rdeis: RT @JaneBozarth: @ReubenTozman I dont hate the PPT. Not the tools fault. #lrnchat
09:42:22 pm MariaOD: Q4: We are not good at enforcing the mandatory course. #lrnchat
09:42:30 pm minutebio: RT @JaneBozarth: @ReubenTozman I dont hate the PPT. Not the tools fault. | Last I checked it was PPTs fault #lrnchat
09:42:32 pm cammybean: @Dave_Ferguson Tru dat. The tools make it easy to create more crap. #lrnchat
09:42:39 pm JaneBozarth: @ReubenTozman not the tool’s fault. that was exactly my point. #lrnchat
09:42:43 pm rjpanetti: Q-tangential…anyone read clay shirky’s metaphor of web2.0 as the printing press and the role of scribes? #lrnchat
09:42:46 pm kelly_smith01: RT @cammybean: @Dave_Ferguson Tru dat. The tools make it easy to create more crap. #lrnchat
09:42:46 pm Dave_Ferguson: Trng departments (and many of their clients) find it hard to resist (or escape) the Little Corporate Schoolhouse mentality…
#lrnchat
09:42:47 pm JaneBozarth: RT @kelly_smith01: PPT doesnt kill learning –> the delivery does. #lrnchat
09:42:48 pm minutebio: RT @britz: Q4) knowing the difference between training and facilitation | Yes! #lrnchat
09:42:50 pm cammybean: RT @JaneBozarth: Im tired of RTing @ReubenTozman . Just… whatever he said. That. > Yeah, what Jane said. #lrnchat
09:42:56 pm Dave_Ferguson: @cammybean I meant the tools who breathe. #lrnchat
09:43:09 pm kelly_smith01: RT @minutebio: RT @britz: Q4) knowing the difference between training and facilitation | Yes! #lrnchat
09:43:11 pm marciamarcia: Training depts suck at being clear they’re not in charge of learning. Ppl are responsible for their own learning. #lrnchat
09:43:16 pm cammybean: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @cammybean I meant the tools who breathe. #lrnchat
09:43:19 pm Dave_Ferguson: Has anyone, anywhere, had a use for CEUs? Like, can you turn them in and get a food processor? #lrnchat
09:43:22 pm criticallearner: q4> #lrnchat we can suck at recognizing irony- like having an annual “L&D Week” to promote a culture of continuous learning #4real_notmadeup
09:43:29 pm JaneBozarth: Q4 we are not good at keeping courses from becoming “mandatory” #lrnchat
09:43:29 pm ThomasStone: Good one RT @cammybean: q4) adapt #lrnchat
09:43:29 pm TheAirton: Q4) Trying to set performance instead of improving it. And costume parties. #lrnchat
09:43:33 pm cammybean: Face it. Most people are lazy. #lrnchat
09:43:42 pm minutebio: RT @marciamarcia: Training depts suck at being clear theyre not in charge of learning. Ppl are responsible for their own learning. #lrnchat
09:43:52 pm kelly_smith01: RT @cammybean: Face it. Most people are lazy. #lrnchat
09:44:07 pm JaneBozarth: @criticallearner perfect. #lrnchat
09:44:10 pm rjpanetti: Corp training depts are scribes of the 21st century. #lrnchat
09:44:24 pm criticallearner: RT @marciamarcia: Training depts suck at being clear they’re not in charge of learning. Ppl are responsible for their own learning. #lrnchat
09:44:32 pm cammybean: Face it. Most people don’t have enough time. (Look at me surrounded by 800 piles of laundry at 10pm. I don’t have time for much.) #lrnchat
09:44:38 pm Dave_Ferguson: @criticallearner On irony, Roger Schank: took training depts 30 years to get OH projector out of the bowling alley #lrnchat
09:44:41 pm billcush: I agree with that…RT @dave_ferguson: @billcush I’d say trng dept CAN get new people up to speed–though doesn’t always… #lrnchat
09:44:49 pm ThomasStone: Q4) secure manager follow-up to improve chances of behavior change #lrnchat
09:44:54 pm britz: Q4) letting go of pedagogical approaches #lrnchat
09:44:59 pm MariaOD: q5: Look for opportunity to help employees adapt to change. #lrnchat
09:45:04 pm criticallearner: RT @marciamarcia: Q5) What must training departments do to stay (or become) relevant? #lrnchat
09:45:07 pm cammybean: q5) Recognize that they’ve become increasingly irrelevant. #lrnchat
09:45:08 pm sue_freeman1: #lrnchat A little disappointed that folks use their own technology (work does not provide/support…).
09:45:17 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat Q5) What must training departments do to stay (or become) relevant? #lrnchat
09:45:18 pm cammybean: RT @marciamarcia: Q5) What must training departments do to stay (or become) relevant? #lrnchat
09:45:45 pm kelly_smith01: RT @cammybean: RT @marciamarcia: Q5) What must training departments do to stay (or become) relevant? #lrnchat
09:45:49 pm ThomasStone: RT @JaneBozarth: q4 performance support #lrnchat
09:45:50 pm Dave_Ferguson: @billcush I agree re can; trng good fit for homogeneous groups, few locations, procedural skills, real s/k gaps. #lrnchat
09:45:54 pm britz: RT @ThomasStone: Q4) secure manager follow-up to improve chances of behavior change / yep! had that convo today too. I’m on a roll #lrnchat
09:46:00 pm MariaOD: Q5: Partner with managers to identify gaps. Be a performance consultant. #lrnchat
09:46:11 pm criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Know the big problems, challenges of the business, participate in resolving.
09:46:20 pm ReubenTozman: q5) Training departments need to disband. Stop being a training department #lrnchat
09:46:23 pm rjpanetti: Q5) know their product. Real learning pros create more capable people. All else is means to that end. #lrnchat
09:46:25 pm ClickTrain: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @kelly_smith01: PPT doesnt kill learning –> the delivery does. #lrnchat
09:46:32 pm cammybean: Q5) Just let go and let training go viral within an org. #lrnchat
09:46:45 pm lrnchat: Q5) What must training departments do to stay (or become) relevant? #lrnchat
09:47:00 pm JD_Dillon: #Training doesn’t have to tell/show employees everything. Put info out there, make it easy to find/use. People will learn. #lrnchat
09:47:03 pm ThomasStone: Yes. I’ve asked you before, stop reading my mind. RT @JaneBozarth: @ReubenTozman I don’t hate the PPT. Not the tool’s fault. #lrnchat
09:47:12 pm jmarrapodi: RT @lrnchat Q5) What must training departments do to stay (or become) relevant? #lrnchat
09:47:24 pm minutebio: Q5) Know audience, their needs & the tech they use & r comfortable with as a learning medium #lrnchat
09:47:32 pm britz: Q5) hire people who regularly attend lrnchat and/or @c4lpt ‘s Yammer Social Learning Community!
#lrnchat
09:47:40 pm cammybean: q5) Send your training people forth into the rest of the organization and help them INTEGRATE. #lrnchat
09:47:43 pm criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Focus on performance, don’t spoonfeed, but create environment for employees to get tools and support needed for their growth.
09:47:44 pm kelly_smith01: Q5) Collaborate and don’t think of the output as a product. #lrnchat
09:47:55 pm kelly_smith01: RT @cammybean: q5) Send your training people forth into the rest of the organization and help them INTEGRATE. #lrnchat
09:47:57 pm Dave_Ferguson: Q5: what to do? Redefine or abandon ‘training’ as label. Most perf improve NOT the result of training. It just ain’t. #lrnchat
09:48:01 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone heh. how are you? Missed you at the learning 3.0 conference. Finally met Dave W. #lrnchat
09:48:09 pm ReubenTozman: q5) Make a difference in a company’s bottom line. #lrnchat
09:48:12 pm criticallearner: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What must training departments do to stay (or become) relevant? #lrnchat
09:48:13 pm MariaOD: Q5: Align/Adapt L&D to the org’s strategic goals. Blessing er funding from the top. #lrnchat
09:48:22 pm JaneBozarth: q5 Get into the workflow instead of interrupting it #lrnchat
09:48:37 pm visualrinse: . @marciamarcia q5) gain new ground or go away. #lrnchat
09:48:38 pm TheAirton: Q5) If Training doesn’t have answer to “So what?” it shouldn’t be around. #lrnchat Someone do an ADDIE already
09:48:40 pm ReubenTozman: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Q5: what to do?Redefine or abandon training as label.Most perf improve NOT the result of training. It just aint. #lrnchat
09:48:42 pm billcush: Ha! RT @janebozarth: Q4 we are not good at keeping courses from becoming “mandatory” #lrnchat
09:48:44 pm ReubenTozman: RT @JaneBozarth: q5 Get into the workflow instead of interrupting it #lrnchat
09:48:44 pm jmarrapodi: RT @MariaOD: Q5: Partner with managers to identify gaps. Be a performance consultant. #lrnchat
09:48:46 pm criticallearner: RT @janebozarth: q5 Get into the workflow instead of interrupting it #lrnchat
09:48:53 pm rjpanetti: RT @kelly_smith01: Q5) Collaborate and don’t think of the output as a product. #lrnchat
09:48:54 pm visualrinse: RT @ReubenTozman: q5) Make a difference in a company’s bottom line. #lrnchat
09:48:58 pm jmarrapodi: RT @criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Know the big problems, challenges of the business, participate in resolving.
09:49:00 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Q5) What must training departments do to stay (or become) relevant? #lrnchat
09:49:01 pm Dave_Ferguson: Stop measuring: butts in seats. Contact hours. Gigabytes of LMS shovelware. #lrnchat
09:49:12 pm complexified: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do training depts try to do that they suck at? #lrnchat
09:49:18 pm kelly_smith01: Don’t have client fill-out form with check boxes for e-learning, instructor-led, job-aid, etc. #lrnchat
09:49:19 pm complexified: RT @JaneBozarth: q4 evaluate #lrnchat
09:49:23 pm minutebio: Q3) Listen more 2 learners & make sure execs know what learners & org needs #lrnchat
09:49:32 pm minutebio: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Stop measuring: butts in seats. Contact hours. Gigabytes of LMS shovelware. #lrnchat
09:49:35 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Stop measuring: butts in seats. Contact hours. Gigabytes of LMS shovelware. #lrnchat –>Say yessss
09:49:38 pm billcush: Q5) Stop whining about resources and just get it done. No one else has enough resources either. #lrnchat
09:49:43 pm britz: RT @JaneBozarth: q5 Get into the workflow instead of interrupting it / Jane – you’re answers are so Nuts & Bolts
#lrnchat
09:49:45 pm criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat build business acumen so you can understand and predict how you can influence key things w/o waiting for requests- come w/solns
09:49:47 pm rdeis: Q5) Align with the business needs. #lrnchat
09:49:47 pm jmarrapodi: Q5) identify and solve real problems. #lrnchat
09:49:48 pm sogarlene: q5) solve real problems, show performance results – not just statistics #lrnchat
09:49:52 pm minutebio: RT @kelly_smith01: Dont have client fill-out form with check boxes for e-learning, instructor-led, job-aid, etc. #lrnchat
09:50:02 pm JD_Dillon: Q5) Don’t wait to be asked for a solution. Create one and improve performance without a business initiative. #lrnchat
09:50:02 pm criticallearner: RT @billcush: Q5) Stop whining about resources and just get it done. No one else has enough resources either. #lrnchat
09:50:05 pm ThomasStone: @JaneBozarth Doing great. Yes, Dave went to Learning 3.0 and I went to HR Tech. Hope to connect with you again at an event soon. #lrnchat
09:50:23 pm minutebio: RT @JD_Dillon: Q5) Dont wait to be asked for a solution. Create one and improve performance without a business initiative. #lrnchat
09:50:23 pm JaneBozarth: @Dave_Ferguson now you’re talkin’ crazy. We. Must.Have. Metrics. No matter how meaningless. #ITTicketsClosed #lrnchat
09:50:25 pm criticallearner: RT @dave_ferguson: Stop measuring: butts in seats. Contact hours. Gigabytes of LMS shovelware. #lrnchat
09:50:34 pm kelly_smith01: Move away from scheduled event – integrate into job/job performance #lrnchat
09:50:35 pm jmarrapodi: RT @janebozarth: q5 Get into the workflow instead of interrupting it #lrnchat
09:50:37 pm JaneBozarth: AMEN TO THAT RT @billcush: Q5) Stop whining about resources and just get it done. No one else has enough resources either. #lrnchat
09:50:43 pm rjpanetti: RT @criticallearner: RT @billcush: Q5) Stop whining about resources and just get it done. No one else has enough resources either. #lrnchat
09:50:56 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone i’m at devlearn and cstd #lrnchat
09:51:06 pm marciamarcia: To stay relevant, training depts could become curators of the content thru out the org. Stop trying to control. #lrnchat
09:51:08 pm MariaOD: Q5: Leverage great free tools, communities, get creative. Just do it. #lrnchat
09:51:10 pm rdeis: RT @JaneBozarth: q5 Get into the workflow instead of interrupting it #lrnchat
09:51:19 pm britz: Q5) To get relevant Training must stop calling people “learners” and call them what they are – workers #lrnchat
09:51:33 pm ThomasStone: Q5) Evolve. Say no more often. Emphasize shorter training and more perf. support outputs. Social. Mobile. Speak lang. of the biz. #lrnchat
09:51:41 pm JaneBozarth: RT @marciamarcia: To stay relevant, training depts could become curators of the content thru out the org. Stop trying to control. #lrnchat
09:51:49 pm ReubenTozman: RT @JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone im at devlearn and cstd -> your coming to CSTD? Are you bolred or something? #lrnchat
09:51:50 pm billcush: Q5) Produce a Profit and Loss statement. Or how about measure costs of training and try to reduce it just like every other group. #lrnchat
09:51:50 pm MariaOD: RT @billcush: Q5) Stop whining about resources and just get it done. No one else has enough resources either. <<Word #lrnchat
09:51:51 pm criticallearner: RT @britz: Q5) To get relevant Training must stop calling people “learners” and call them what they are – workers #lrnchat >Performers
09:51:58 pm cammybean: @visualrinse @reubentozman if not PPT then I’m bringing tap shoes. #lrnchat
09:52:08 pm jmarrapodi: Q5) Stop training when a job aid will do. HT @bmosh @arossett #lrnchat
09:52:17 pm kelly_smith01: Imagine your self in one of the boxes or lines in a Rummler /Brache flow. You are part of the team. #lrnchat
09:52:20 pm JD_Dillon: Q5) Don’t rely on level 1s to tell you how good you are. Make the effort to implement robust assessment. Make Kirkpatrick right! #lrnchat
09:52:24 pm MariaOD: RT @ThomasStone: Q5) Evolve. Say no more often. Emphasize shorter training and more perf. support outputs. Social. Mobile… #lrnchat
09:52:25 pm criticallearner: RT @jmarrapodi: Q5) Stop training when a job aid will do. HT @bmosh @arossett #lrnchat
09:52:33 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone would like to hear more about HRTech. Heard good things. #lrnchat
09:52:45 pm minutebio: RT @jmarrapodi: Q5) Stop training when a job aid will do. HT @bmosh @arossett #lrnchat
09:52:49 pm JaneBozarth: @ReubenTozman I’m never bolred, Reuben. #lrnchat
09:52:58 pm MariaOD: RT @criticallearner: RT @jmarrapodi: Q5) Stop training when a job aid will do. HT @bmosh @arossett #lrnchat
09:53:06 pm kelly_smith01: RT @minutebio: RT @jmarrapodi: Q5) Stop training when a job aid will do. HT @bmosh @arossett #lrnchat
09:53:07 pm ThomasStone: … or face extinction. Tough economic times are here for a long time people. RT @rdeis: Q5) Align with the business needs. #lrnchat
09:53:16 pm MMTingley: RT @criticallearner: RT @britz: Q5) stop calling people “learners” and call them what they are – workers >Performers > Contributors #lrnchat
09:53:20 pm criticallearner: RT @jd_dillon: Q5) Don’t rely on L1s … Make the effort to implement robust assessment. Make Kirkpatrick right! #lrnchat > Bottoms up!
09:53:27 pm ReubenTozman: @JaneBozarth bored goddamnit #lrnchat
09:53:30 pm JaneBozarth: I have a bumper sticker in my office: “Oh, Evolve!” #lrnchat
09:53:38 pm billcush: Roger that! RT @thomasstone: Q5) Evolve. Speak lang. of the biz. #lrnchat
09:53:45 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: I have a bumper sticker in my office: “Oh, Evolve!” #lrnchat
09:53:47 pm sogarlene: q5 @kelly_smith01 …love the visual! thank you! #lrnchat
09:53:57 pm jmarrapodi: RT @JaneBozarth AMEN 2 THAT RT @billcush: Q5) stop whining about resources-just get it done. No 1 else has enough resources either. #lrnchat
09:53:58 pm marciamarcia: If you’re really L&D, act like it. Focus on helping ppl learn & develop everyway, not training them your way. #lrnchat
09:54:06 pm JaneBozarth: @ReubenTozman oh I’m bored more often than I’m bolred. I like Toronto. Will you be there? #lrnchat
09:54:20 pm ReubenTozman: RT @marciamarcia: If youre really L&D, act like it. Focus on helping ppl learn & develop everyway, not training them your way. #lrnchat
09:54:34 pm cammybean: RT @marciamarcia: If youre really L&D, act like it. Focus on helping ppl learn & develop everyway, not training them your way. #lrnchat
09:54:35 pm billcush: Are you trying to put me in a box? RT @kelly_smith01: Imagine your self in one of the boxes or lines in a Rummler /Brache flow. #lrnchat
09:54:39 pm Dave_Ferguson: @kelly_smith01 I still have the one that says “when I want your opinion, I’ll give it to you.”
#lrnchat
09:54:43 pm ThomasStone: Shoot… I’m at neither this year. Me = Masie Learning 11 & Training 12 RT @JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone i’m at devlearn and cstd #lrnchat
09:54:49 pm kelly_smith01: New bumper sticker “The Future Began Yesterday” #lrnchat
09:54:49 pm JaneBozarth: RT @marciamarcia: If you’re really L&D, act like it. Focus on helping ppl learn & develop every way, not training them your way. #lrnchat
09:54:49 pm minutebio: RT @marciamarcia: If youre really L&D, act like it. Focus on helping ppl learn & develop everyway, not training them your way. #lrnchat
09:54:53 pm kellygarber: RT @marciamarcia: If youre really L&D, act like it. Focus on helping ppl learn & develop every way, not training them your way. #lrnchat
09:54:54 pm jmarrapodi: RT @britz: Q5) To get relevant Training must stop calling people “learners” and call them what they are – workers #lrnchat >Performers
09:55:03 pm ReubenTozman: @JaneBozarth I live in Toronto. I ignore CSTD #lrnchat
09:55:05 pm MariaOD: RT @marciamarcia: If youre really L&D, act like it. Focus on helping ppl learn & develop everyway, not training them your way. #lrnchat
09:55:09 pm jmarrapodi: RT @kelly_smith01: Imagine your self in one of the boxes or lines in a Rummler /Brache flow. You are part of the team. #lrnchat
09:55:19 pm criticallearner: Q5> #lrnchat Know what drives the business (really) help employees execute that with excellence.
09:55:20 pm kelly_smith01: RT @britz: Q5) To get relevant Training must stop calling people “learners” and call them what they are – workers #lrnchat >Performers
09:55:24 pm Dave_Ferguson: @ThomasStone I’m just at home. #lrnchat
09:55:49 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests, & shameless plugs welcome. #lrnchat
09:55:56 pm britz: Well, I like biting the hand that feeds me as much as the next guy, but alas I must depart. Good night from Syracuse, NY #lrnchat
09:56:09 pm billcush: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests, & shameless plugs welcome. #lrnchat
09:56:13 pm KatieStroudPro: Q5) Respect learners ability to learn and foster that ability #lrnchat (not #lrncht)
09:56:23 pm ThomasStone: My event recap blog posting up tomorrow! RT @JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone would like to hear more about HRTech. Heard good things. #lrnchat
09:56:36 pm rdeis: RT @kelly_smith01 @minutebio @jmarrapodi: Q5) Stop training when a job aid will do. HT @bmosh @arossett #lrnchat
09:56:45 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone I’m doing Masie virtually,couldn’t work out the trip. I’ll be at Training 12. Might recruit you for social media rodeo #lrnchat
09:56:48 pm kelly_smith01: RT @KatieStroudPro: Q5) Respect learners ability to learn and foster that ability #lrnchat (not #lrncht)
09:56:51 pm TheAirton: Q5) Spend 90% of your time in and around the business/ learners. Get out of the cave1 #lrnchat
09:57:10 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone good looking forward to it #lrnchat
09:57:17 pm ReubenTozman: wrap) Reuben Tozman. Will be presenting with @aaronsilvers at #devlearn, doing a session on content clouds and now doing #ignite #lrnchat
09:57:29 pm JD_Dillon: Thanks for the #lrnchat, all! JD from Orlando signing out! Keep the learning going 24/7. #virtualhighfives
09:57:30 pm Dave_Ferguson: Rx for Trng Dept (1) What Every Mgr Should Know /Mager (2) Improving Perf / Rummler & Brache (3) Flawless Consulting / Block #lrnchat
09:57:31 pm cammybean: qw) Cammy Bean with Kineo. Evolving outside of Boston tonight. Trying to help orgs evolve every day. #lrnchat
09:57:33 pm criticallearner: #lrnchat wrap> Thanks for another insightful, fun, chat. Signing off, with a toast to ADDIE. David Glow, Tampa, FL.
09:58:02 pm ReubenTozman: qwrap) Also visit @melissabathory at our booth and ask about #anan. First system of its kind…be amazed #lrnchat
09:58:03 pm kellygarber: RT @TheAirton: Q5) Spend 90% of your time in and around the business/ learners. Get out of the cave #lrnchat
09:58:23 pm kelly_smith01: Qw) Kelly Smith, freelancing instructional design #lrnchat
09:58:42 pm kelly_smith01: RT @kellygarber: RT @TheAirton: Q5) Spend 90% of your time in and around the business/ learners. Get out of the cave (or silo) #lrnchat
09:58:44 pm cammybean: Plugging my latest article “Learning’s but a stream” http://t.co/Iz8qtdXH #lrnchat
09:58:55 pm billcush: Qwrap) Bill Cushard. In Denver, CO. Had fun writing this post about branding LMSs internally. http://t.co/MZpo3TIe #lrnchat
09:59:02 pm ThomasStone: .@JaneBozarth Even though I don’t know what a social media rodeo is, count me in anyway. #lrnchat
09:59:12 pm Dave_Ferguson: Dave Ferguson, author of weight-y blog posts, Wash DC, learning consultant, freelance aphorist. #lrnchat
09:59:16 pm JaneBozarth: Jane Bozarth, soon for DevLearn w multi sessions, then CSTD, trying to keep #sociallearning out of the hands of assassins. #lrnchat
09:59:20 pm KatieStroudPro: Qwrap) I came in at the tail end of this chat. I’m a self-proclaimed learning solutions engineer. #lrnchat http://t.co/qQgbCU4C
09:59:25 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone cowboy up! #lrnchat
09:59:33 pm Dave_Ferguson: @ThomasStone Social medio rodeo — I’m sure there’s branding.
#lrnchat
09:59:46 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone neither do I. #MakinItUp #DontItSoundCool? #lrnchat
09:59:55 pm ReubenTozman: qwrap) Also publishing book with #astd on “Learning on Demand: How web technology is shaping the future of learning” – buy it #lrnchat
09:59:58 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman, eLearning Designer at Johns Hopkins. Blogging at http://t.co/d4O7gfoG #lrnchat
09:59:59 pm ThomasStone: Another fine #lrnchat folks, after initial tech glitches. Thomas Stone, from Rochester, NY… signing off.
10:00:11 pm kellygarber: Qwrap) thanks for a great chat tonight, and cheers to the lurkers @chris_garber @tapscout @themartinidiva #lrnchat
10:00:25 pm marciamarcia: Would you please share this survey w/the ppl in your org responsible for #socbiz strategy? http://t.co/9LMmLpA4 #lrnchat
10:00:50 pm JaneBozarth: Also author “Social Media for Trainers” & “Better than Bullet Points:Creating Engaging eLearning with POWERPOINT” watch for 2nd ed. #lrnchat
10:00:56 pm MMTingley: Qwrap) Melissa Tingley, eLearning ID and general edu-geek, Boston. Good night, all! #lrnchat
10:00:58 pm kelly_smith01: RT @cammybean: Plugging my latest article “Learning’s but a stream” http://t.co/jddqzzTW #lrnchat
10:01:40 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: “Social Media for Trainers” & “Better than Bullet Points:Creating Engaging eLearning with PPT,” watch for 2nd ed. #lrnchat
10:01:47 pm JaneBozarth: @kellygarber love it when people call out the lurkers #lrnchat
10:02:10 pm klowey22: RT @marciamarcia: Would u please share this survey w ppl in ur org responsible for #socbiz strategy? http://t.co/UVxrC05y #lrnchat #kmers
10:02:11 pm ThomasStone: .@Dave_Ferguson I’m allergic to hot pokers. #lrnchat
10:02:31 pm jmarrapodi: Qwrap) Jean M learning architect @ intersection of high tech & low literacy. Plug for 11/2 @LoisKelly @MASS_ISPI on corp rebels #lrnchat
10:02:45 pm kelly_smith01: Move along there lurker move along #lrnchat
10:03:07 pm minutebio: RT @marciamarcia: …Share this survey w/the ppl in your org responsible for #socbiz strategy? http://t.co/Pw3lD62Z #lrnchat
10:03:13 pm TheAirton: QWrap) Airton, Orlando, Dog walker, Lead singer say hi when you’re here. #FistBumps Great meeting yous #Lrnchat night chat is better….
10:03:45 pm chrisstjohn: Chris StJohn (DAU – the WalMart of Learning) Digital Goverati, Sunday Avatarian #lrnchat
10:03:51 pm JaneBozarth: Ok time to do the IOS5 upgrade. Anybody want to wait with me? #lrnchat
10:03:57 pm JaneBozarth: RT @kelly_smith01: Move along there lurker move along #lrnchat
10:04:02 pm KatieStroudPro: QWrap2) Plugging my latest article http://t.co/l0QbAaMj Read if you think you’re an expert. #lrnchat
10:04:43 pm JaneBozarth: @kelly_smith01 soon the defense of the lurkers complete w quoting Wenger out of context will begin… #lrnchat
Transcript 13 October 2011(Early)
October 14, 201104:30:25 pm lrnchat: Welcome to #lrnchat! How have you been?
04:30:43 pm C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Welcome to #lrnchat! How have you been?
04:30:48 pm jzurovchak: #lrnchat starting! Get ready to roll!
04:31:03 pm ReubenTozman: RT @lesleywprice: @ReubenTozman: @stevier – love the video yesterday
< my fav video of the day is http://t.co/9jwSlfB8 – awesome #lrnchat
04:31:10 pm lesleywprice: RT @C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Welcome to #lrnchat! How have you been? #lrnchat
04:31:13 pm lrnchat: We’re skipping the #lrnchat rules tonight. If you’re new, brush up at http://t.co/4Lr208H4
04:31:18 pm AndreaMay1: Hi #lrnchat ers. Hope everyone had a good week.
04:31:41 pm _Kavi: There you go !! hello all ! RT @lrnchat: Welcome to #lrnchat! How have you been?
04:31:52 pm PaFitzpatrick: Hello all at #lrnchat – Patrick Fitzpatrick from @PTKLearning here in the wonderful city of Sheffield UK
04:31:58 pm kelly_smith01: Prewrap) Fine and busy. #lrnchat
04:32:03 pm olliegardener: RT @AndreaMay1: Hi #lrnchat ers. Hope everyone had a good week. #lrnchat
04:32:07 pm lrnchat: Q0) Let’s get started w/ the #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? What have you learned this week?
04:32:12 pm alc47: Hi everyone – now for some fun relaxation at the end of a busy day! #lrnchat
04:32:22 pm megbertapelle: hi peeps – sorry to miss today, have a good one! off to record VO (eewww, gotta listen to my own voice!)
wish me luck! #lrnchat
04:32:23 pm C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q0) Let’s get started w/ the #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? What have you learned this week?
04:32:26 pm jzurovchak: John Zurovchak in Columbus, Ohio – ready for #lrnchat
04:32:30 pm JD_Dillon: It’s time for #lrnchat! Let the collective brilliance commence!
04:32:47 pm ThePrezenter: Hi #lrnchat. It’s been a stressful week so far. Really starting to feel the pinch of the enconomic crisis
04:33:17 pm amirelion: Hi All. Amir Elion from Israel #lrnchat
04:33:25 pm stipton: RT @lrnchat: Q0) Let’s get started w/ the #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? What have you learned this week?
04:33:31 pm ReubenTozman: Reuben Tozman CLO of edCetra Training. Here for 30 mins. I’ve been asked by the republic of me to represent me today
#lrnchat
04:33:40 pm HollyJustice1: Hello from Holly in Oregon! Happy to be join #lrnchat
04:33:50 pm lesleywprice: q0) Today I learned that simple things really do mean a lot this week I’ve learned don’t be afraid to ask for advice #lrnchat
04:33:57 pm ReubenTozman: RT @amirelion: Hi All. Amir Elion from Israel – shalom. ma nishma #lrnchat
04:34:01 pm _Kavi: RT @lrnchat: Q0) Let’s get started w/ the #lrnchat welcome: What have you learned today? What have you learned this week?
04:34:06 pm alc47: I’ve learned (again) that I’m a techno dunce – but having fun learning to use my iPad #lrnchat
04:34:15 pm jzurovchak: I’ve been looking more into the idea of “badges” in training and skill development….will be interesting to see how it unfolds. #lrnchat
04:34:24 pm amirelion: Q0) Learned today that brewing coffee on a picnic gas stove can be dangerous… #lrnchat
04:34:38 pm JD_Dillon: Q0) The #iOS5 update has helped me learn a lot about the most effective use of my technological resources. #lrnchat
04:34:44 pm lesleywprice: RT @alc47: Ive learned (again) that Im a techno dunce – but having fun learning to use my iPad <at least you have one lol!! #lrnchat
04:35:12 pm C4LPT: @lrnchat Jane Hart joining #lrnchat today from Laguna Niguel in Calfornia
04:35:13 pm ReubenTozman: q0) In 1960, the cost of building a one hour computer based training course for the PLATO system was 300000$. Thats 1960 dollars #lrnchat
04:35:19 pm laurawalshphoto: Attending #lrnchat for first time in months. Interested in how critical learning is to solving societal/economic problems.
04:35:20 pm _Kavi: Q0) I learnt…. that many times good questions are good answers in themselves ! #lrnchat
04:35:20 pm wordwealthy: Attending #lrnchat for first time in months. Interested in how critical learning is to solving societal/economic problems.
04:35:41 pm AjayPangarkar: Hi #lrnchat…doing well. Learned to be more patient with people
04:35:52 pm lesleywprice: q0) I’ve learned that I was right to go Android and not buy a blackberry lol!
#lrnchat
04:35:56 pm alc47: RT @C4LPT: @lrnchat Jane Hart joining #lrnchat today from Laguna Niguel in Calfornia >Lucky for some! #lrnchat
04:36:01 pm AndreaMay1: Q0) This morning I learned about troubleshooting intermittent pilot gas burner control systems…hard work for a Thursday morning #lrnchat
04:36:05 pm amirelion: RT @_Kavi: Q0) I learnt…. that many times good questions are good answers in themselves ! AGREED #lrnchat
04:36:10 pm PaFitzpatrick: Q0) This week I have learned that my 3 year old son is very good an negotiation skills – especially when I am not well #lrnchat
04:36:19 pm _Kavi: RT @lesleywprice: q0) Today I learned that simple things really do mean a lot this week I’ve learned don’t be afraid to ask for advice #lrnchat
04:36:25 pm laurawalshphoto: I learned that in the U.S. the quit rate is now higher than layoffs. What does that say? #lrnchat
04:36:43 pm olliegardener: @C4LPT Nice!
#lrnchat
04:36:46 pm StephenCHudson: q0) I learned that it is better to ask why someone is requesting a change rather than to make it so the solution is best #lrnchat
04:36:58 pm Tracy_Parish: Q0) I learned this week how to admin another LMS. Can never have too many in one organization. ugggg #lrnchat
04:37:01 pm _Kavi: Learnt that many times, people just need a patient ear ! Thats all ! #lrnchat
04:37:11 pm C4LPT: q1) I’ve learned that there still many pple who think #sociallearning is something you have to implement top-down in ur org
#lrnchat
04:37:18 pm arossett: attending #lrnchat from Laguna Niguel. Learned you can get here from San Diego in 58 minutes.
04:37:24 pm lesleywprice: RT @laurawalshphoto I learned that in the U.S. the quit rate is higher than layoffs. What does that say? < Amazed at that stat!! #lrnchat
04:37:32 pm stipton: Q0) the axiom of telling ppl something 10 times before they absorb your message is sooooo true. #lrnchat
04:37:34 pm ThePrezenter: Q0) Today I’ve learnt that @prezi loves using .swf files. This week I’ve found genius way to prsnt a @prezi using an Android tablet #lrnchat
04:37:35 pm AndreaMay1: RT @laurawalshphoto: I learned that in the U.S. the quit rate is now higher than layoffs. What does that say? #lrnchat <– Interesting!
04:37:53 pm Tracy_Parish: Q0) I also learned the difference in taste from a $40 bottle of wine and a $10 one.
#lrnchat
04:38:02 pm _Kavi: The BB outage got me reflecting on dependence on technology ! #lrnchat
04:38:10 pm lesleywprice: RT @C4LPT q1) Ive learned that there still many pple who think #sociallearning is something you implement top-down in ur org
#lrnchat
04:38:17 pm jzurovchak: Learning about spiders and starfish , Nantaans and decentralized organizations in today’s world…#lrnchat
04:38:25 pm lesleywprice: RT @Tracy_Parish: Q0) I also learned the difference in taste from a $40 bottle of wine and a $10 one.
< like that one! #lrnchat
04:38:39 pm lesleywprice: RT @_Kavi: The BB outage got me reflecting on dependence on technology ! #lrnchat
04:38:45 pm ThePrezenter: Q0) I also got very warm fuzzy feeling when building some FISH! training this week. Such a great tool for fun in the workplace #lrnchat
04:38:58 pm AndreaMay1: RT @C4LPT: q1) learned still many pple who think #sociallearning is something u have to implement top-down in ur org
#lrnchat <-Ugh
04:39:12 pm ThePrezenter: RT @AndreaMay1: RT @laurawalshphoto: I learned that in the U.S. the quit rate is now higher than layoffs. What does that say? #lrnchat <– Interesting!
04:39:24 pm HollyJustice1: Q0) Today’s lesson being nice and offering help pays off – the world is small. This week learned how to use images in my blog. #lrnchat
04:39:31 pm Tracy_Parish: @ThePrezenter Did people actually get to throw stuff around? LOL #lrnchat
04:40:00 pm amirelion: I learned that organizing a tweetchat is hard work and not many people come. 2nd #lrnisr chat took placer this week. #lrnchat
04:40:00 pm alc47: @arossett Seems like all the important people are there! #lrnchat
04:40:07 pm lrnchat: Q1) Do training departments have the same influence today that they had five years ago? #lrnchat
04:40:20 pm PaFitzpatrick: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Do training departments have the same influence today that they had five years ago? #lrnchat
04:40:44 pm sparkandco: Lurking in #lrnchat today – I have no training dept so not sure I’ll have much to contribute!
04:40:51 pm lesleywprice: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Do training departments have the same influence today that they had five years ago? #lrnchat
04:41:07 pm kelly_smith01: RT @C4LPT: q1) I’ve learned that there still many pple who think #SoMe is something you have to implement top-down in ur org
#lrnchat
04:41:08 pm C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Do training departments have the same influence today that they had five years ago? #lrnchat
04:41:17 pm StephanieDaul: Sorry I’m late. Trying to finish 2 big project that are due at the same time. #lrnchat
04:41:17 pm ThePrezenter: @Tracy_Parish #lrnchat Haha not on this occasion. I’m training on some top secret new mobile devices being released soon so no throwing!
04:41:18 pm lesleywprice: q1) did they ever have influence??? #lrnchat
04:41:31 pm ReubenTozman: q1) Not sure they had any greater influence 5 years ago. Always a silo and still trying to silo themselves I find #lrnchat
04:41:51 pm amirelion: Q1) In Israel some have more, some unchanged. I feel as if the general trend is for deeper influence. #lrnchat
04:41:55 pm AjayPangarkar: Q1) #lrnchat …it depends, the ones that deliver on business objectives “yes”, otherwise they are only a necessary evil for snr managers
04:41:56 pm lesleywprice: RT @ReubenTozman: q1) Not sure they had any greater influence 5 years ago. Always a silo and still trying to silo themselves I find #lrnchat
04:41:56 pm alc47: Q1 Did they have an influence 5 years ago #lrnchat
04:41:56 pm aaronesilvers: Heh > RT @lesleywprice: q1) did they ever have influence??? #lrnchat
04:42:03 pm AndreaMay1: Q1) For the ones I consult with, I’d say they have more influence in some areas and less in others #lrnchat
04:42:07 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) IMO, training departments have MORE influence, less training and more organizational development groups driving talent growth. #lrnchat
04:42:08 pm jzurovchak: #lrnchat Q1 – Not sure about our organization…we still creatie”courses” for the masses, but I’m sure there is a lot of “other” going on
04:42:08 pm alc47: RT @ReubenTozman: q1) Not sure they had any greater influence 5 years ago. Always a silo and still trying to silo themselves I find #lrnchat
04:42:24 pm MarniDunning: RT @sparkandco: Lurking in #lrnchat today – I have no training dept so not sure I’ll have much to contribute!
04:42:32 pm arossett: 1) interesting question abt influence of trng depts. What to measure? Did we measure 5 yrs ago? Do we now? Who judges? #lrnchat
04:42:39 pm C4LPT: Q1) They probably like to think they do; but the reality is more and more pple are working around them #lrnchat
04:42:50 pm aaronesilvers: RT @arossett: 1) interesting question abt influence of trng depts. What to measure? Did we measure 5 yrs ago? Do we now? Who judges? #lrnchat
04:42:54 pm lesleywprice: q1) Until training departments understand and align with business objectives they will never have any influence #lrnchat
04:42:55 pm alc47: @AjayPangarkar necessary evils are ceasing to exist – they are being chopped out #lrnchat
04:43:03 pm aaronesilvers: RT @C4LPT: Q1) They probably like to think they do; but the reality is more and more pple are working around them #lrnchat
04:43:08 pm StephenCHudson: q1) social media (lrng) and collab platforms (sharepoint) have democratized learning. I see influence waining #lrnchat
04:43:08 pm LnDDave: Greetings #lrnchat. David Kelly from NYC, joining a little late.
04:43:11 pm jzurovchak: #lrnchat Are more peopole really working around training dpts today or are we just able to track it better looking at SOME?
04:43:13 pm ReubenTozman: q1) Backwards logic of training departments is: If I can prove I’m different then I have value. We need an ROI model thats diff’t. #lrnchat
04:43:23 pm AndreaMay1: Q1) Think it depends on the org and how much they value centralized training #lrnchat
04:43:31 pm alc47: RT @C4LPT: Q1) probably think they do; but the reality is more and more pple are working around them. Self-directed learning #lrnchat
04:43:34 pm C4LPT: RT @StephenCHudson: q1) social media (lrng) and collab platforms (sharepoint) have democratized learning. I see influence waining #lrnchat
04:43:35 pm tracydg1: @lesleywprice Agreed #lrnchat
04:43:38 pm ThePrezenter: Q1) Amazing question. I think they do #lrnchat but only the ones taht have moved with the times. I had a job interview a while back…cont
04:43:42 pm PaFitzpatrick: Q1) More influence: TD’s are significant in employee Stabilizing & upskilling is essential to org’s since the economic crisis #lrnchat
04:43:49 pm lesleywprice: RT @LnDDave: Greetings #lrnchat. David Kelly from NYC, joining a little late. < better late than never
#lrnchat
04:43:55 pm wordwealthy: Tweeting from correct account now! Influence of training depts feels limiting to me, since some orgs train without formal dept. #lrnchat
04:43:57 pm stipton: Q1) Absolutely big dif from 5 yrs ago – in the right hands. Stop being trainers, start being business partners. #lrnchat
04:44:00 pm kelly_smith01: How many of us were with the same organization as 5 yrs ago – Does that organization (or even industry) still exist? #lrnchat
04:44:04 pm ThePrezenter: Q1) #lrnchat and was amazed at how they just wrote content and spat out Ppt files.
04:44:14 pm jzurovchak: #lrnchat Still not sure how much social media is being used in our organization…not sure where or how to look…
04:44:24 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Do training departments have the same influence today that they had five years ago? #lrnchat
04:44:29 pm lesleywprice: RT @stipton: Q1) Absolutely big dif from 5 yrs ago - Stop being trainers, start being business partners. <exactly!! #lrnchat
04:44:30 pm kelly_smith01: RT @stipton: Q1) Absolutely big dif from 5 yrs ago – in the right hands. Stop being trainers, start being business partners. #lrnchat – Hope
04:44:42 pm AndreaMay1: RT @stipton: Q1)Absolutely big dif from 5 yrs ago – in the right hands. Stop being trainers, start being business partners. #lrnchat <-agree
04:44:52 pm alc47: RT @stipton: Q1) Absolutely big dif – in the right hands. Stop being trainers, start being business partners.>But very few doing it #lrnchat
04:44:57 pm aaronesilvers: Q1) I think 5yrs ago Training Depts. assumed they owned “learning.” Turns out everyone owns it. #lrnchat
04:44:58 pm _Kavi: Q1. Influence is a function of being able to influence. We are lot better than where we were 5 years ago #lrnchat
04:44:59 pm PaFitzpatrick: Q1) however there is more pressure on TD’s now to deliver effective training. Their accountability has increased dramatically #lrnchat
04:45:02 pm cammybean: Cammy Bean here – tweeting live from Massachusetts. #lrnchat
04:45:05 pm ThePrezenter: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @stipton: Q1) Absolutely big dif from 5 yrs ago – in the right hands. Stop being trainers, start being business partners. #lrnchat – Hope
04:45:12 pm billcush: News: Freeing the LMS http://t.co/VSq6rJR0 #lrnchat
04:45:18 pm arossett: RT @AndreaMay1: RT @stipton: Q1). Stop being trainers, start being business partners. #lrnchat <-agree
04:45:43 pm aaronesilvers: Q1) Training definitely helps with efficiencies. Training doesn’t necessarily add revenues #assumption #lrnchat
04:45:54 pm ReubenTozman: q1) Training is still an event. We still build events and it needs to stop. #lrnchat
04:45:59 pm jzurovchak: #lrnchat Q1) We seem to still be providing much of the same services to the organization..trying to improve…but no real, hard evidence yet
04:46:00 pm lesleywprice: RT @_Kavi: Q1Influence is a function of being able to influence. We are lot better than 5 years ago <not convinced
#lrnchat
04:46:04 pm kelly_smith01: RT @aaronesilvers: Q1) Training definitely helps with efficiencies. Training doesn’t necessarily add revenues #assumption #lrnchat
04:46:06 pm LnDDave: Q1) Training Dept influence is largely determined by the learning culture you are able to build within the org. #lrnchat
04:46:13 pm amirelion: Q1) is their role to have more influence? Or should they work behind the scenes to make other make the difference? #lrnchat
04:46:15 pm alc47: @PaFitzpatrick Delivering effective training does not belong in the new peer connected and social world #lrnchat
04:46:17 pm stipton: .@PaFitzpatrick As it should be, just as every other depart in a business LEARNING needs to be held accountable for their goals. #lrnchat
04:46:19 pm PaFitzpatrick: RT @LnDDave: Q1) Training Dept influence is largely determined by the learning culture you are able to build within the org. #lrnchat
04:46:41 pm sparkandco: RT @reubentozman: q1) Training is still an event. We still build events and it needs to stop. #lrnchat
04:46:52 pm bschlenker: RT @aaronesilvers: Q1) I think 5yrs ago Training Depts. assumed they owned “learning.” Turns out everyone owns it. #lrnchat
04:46:55 pm wordwealthy: Question for me is how much influence does learning have within organizations? What priority does business place on learning? #lrnchat
04:46:56 pm ThePrezenter: RT @aaronesilvers: Q1) I think 5yrs ago Training Depts. assumed they owned “learning.” Turns out everyone owns it. #lrnchat
04:46:57 pm stipton: RT @LnDDave: Q1) Training Dept influence is largely determined by the learning culture you are able to build within the org. #lrnchat
04:47:04 pm ReubenTozman: Have a great #lrnchat. Gotta run. My final thought: for train depts to be relevant they need to cease being a training dept #lrnchat
04:47:06 pm nlkilkenny: #lrnchat Q1) I think they still have some influence. In smart companies their focus & approach has changed.
04:47:12 pm lesleywprice: RT @LnDDave: Q1) Training Dept influence determined by the learning culture< shouldn’t training dept be trying to change culture? #lrnchat
04:47:15 pm jzurovchak: #lrnchat Q1) How many training departments have really made these changes…or just wishful thinking?
04:47:33 pm StephanieDaul: RT @sparkandco: RT @reubentozman: q1) Training is still an event. We still build events and it needs to stop. #lrnchat
04:47:36 pm alc47: RT @sparkandco: RT @reubentozman: q1) Training is still an event. We still build events and it needs to stop.>Keep saying it! #lrnchat
04:47:39 pm ThePrezenter: @sparkandco @reubentozman #lrnchat Such a great point made. I never thought of it in that way. Stop building events!!!
04:47:39 pm lesleywprice: RT @ReubenTozman: Have a great #lrnchat. My final thought: for train depts to be relevant they need to cease being a training dept #lrnchat
04:47:57 pm kelly_smith01: Still page turning e-learning and this -is-what-you-need-to-know instructor-led learning out there. #lrnchat
04:48:15 pm C4LPT: RT @aaronesilvers Q1) I think 5yrs ago Training Dpts assumed they owned “learning” Turns out everyone owns it #lrnchat <but they cant let go
04:48:15 pm j_allen: RT @aaronesilvers: Q1) I think 5yrs ago Training Depts. assumed they owned “learning.” Turns out everyone owns it. #lrnchat
04:48:16 pm HollyJustice1: Q1)Training depts influence more people + mgmt despite smaller size and less $. Lifetime learning is up in USA due to bad economy #lrnchat
04:48:19 pm PaFitzpatrick: @alc47 I should choose my words more carefully ‘training’ I should be saying empowering KSA #lrnchat
04:48:35 pm _Kavi: q1) The focus is shifting from ‘training’ to ‘performance consulting’. Seen less as an ‘intrusion’ and more as ‘enabler’ #lrnchat
04:48:41 pm Tracy_Parish: Q1) Our training depts r so swamped doing mandatory stuff, that they aren’t able to keep up with devlping new skills for employees. #lrnchat
04:48:41 pm lesleywprice: q1) sometimes feel like a broken record..training depts tend to focus on bums on seats…so focus on wrong end of learner #lrnchat
04:48:54 pm alc47: RT @PaFitzpatrick: @alc47 I should choose my words more carefully training I should be saying empowering KSA>That’s better! #lrnchat
04:49:03 pm ThePrezenter: Q1) #lrnchat Love the ideas here that we need to think of ourselves as business partners and stop thinking of learning as an event
04:49:04 pm stevier: @reubentozman Thanks, Reuben!
#lrnchat
04:49:05 pm LnDDave: RT @aaronesilvers: Q1) I think 5yrs ago Training Depts. assumed they owned “learning.” Turns out everyone owns it. #lrnchat
04:49:10 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) It takes a learning culture to allow a learning organization to have the right influence on a company’s success. #lrnchat
04:49:11 pm stipton: .@wordwealthy “What priority does business place on learning? ” Business only makes L&D a priority based leardership from L&D #lrnchat
04:49:17 pm amirelion: Q1) Events <> Influence. Tackling real problems and opportunities = influence. #lrnchat
04:49:22 pm AndreaMay1: @jzurovchak In my experience , training departments are becoming much more strategic and less about how many people trained #lrnchat
04:49:26 pm TruaxTrainer: RT @HollyJustice1: Q1)Training depts influence more people + mgmt despite smaller size and less $. Lifetime learning is up in USA due to bad economy #lrnchat
04:49:30 pm PaFitzpatrick: @alc47 it was a moment of been stuck in the past – wont happen again #lrnchat
04:49:38 pm _Kavi: Q1) Technology has played a major role in the way people learn. Its a golden opp for Learning function #lrnchat
04:49:45 pm LnDDave: Q1) The training departments that have focused less on training and more on performance likely have more influence. #lrnchat
04:49:52 pm StephanieDaul: RT @lesleywprice: feels like a broken record..training depts tend to focus on bums on seats…so focus on wrong end of learner #lrnchat
04:49:52 pm bschlenker: Q1) If we thought Trng Dpts were “the first to go” in hard times before. Today, its almost justified. Begin to think different #lrnchat
04:50:07 pm jzurovchak: @PaFitzpatrick Good to hear! We seem to still be stuck in the mire here…trying to change…but no evidence yet…#lrnchat
04:50:09 pm PaFitzpatrick: RT @LnDDave: Q1) The training departments that have focused less on training and more on performance likely have more influence. #lrnchat
04:50:10 pm aaronesilvers: RT @bschlenker: Q1) If we thought Trng Dpts were “the first to go” in hard times before. Today, its almost justified. Begin to think different #lrnchat
04:50:11 pm stipton: .@lesleywprice Totally agree – butts in seats means nothing. Business wants performance results, that’s how L&D stays critical. #lrnchat
04:50:23 pm alc47: RT @LnDDave: Q1) The training departments that have focused less on training and more on performance likely have more influence. #lrnchat
04:50:43 pm _Kavi: RT @AndreaMay1: @jzurovchak In my experience , training departments are becoming much more strategic and less about how many people trained #lrnchat
04:50:47 pm tracydg1: @_Kavi Exactly. Who said there’s no training problem, there are performance problems. Training is one of the solutions. #lrnchat
04:50:53 pm jzurovchak: We are definitely still counting completions…data fed up to the execs based on “courses” completed… #lrnchat
04:50:59 pm stipton: .@jzurovchak evidence of what? #lrnchat
04:50:59 pm olliegardener: q1) the training depts influence (on what matters) is determined by what role they enact in the business #lrnchat
04:51:07 pm JffZllr: Training still a need for blue-collar beginrs. @reubentozman: q1) Training is still an event. We still build events / needs to stop #lrnchat
04:51:07 pm HollyJustice1: RT Yes!@LnDDave Q1) Training Dept influence is largely determined by the learning culture you are able to build within the org. #lrnchat
04:51:16 pm wordwealthy: @stipton But if you have leadership who believes in potential of learning/knows it works, they may nurture learning culture. #lrnchat
04:51:17 pm _Kavi: Q1) Its a competitive time. Learning is becoming a differentiator. And more importantly, business is seeing it. #lrnchat
04:51:18 pm tracydg1: RT @alc47: RT @LnDDave: Q1) The training departments that have focused less on training and more on performance likely have more influence. #lrnchat
04:51:25 pm alc47: RT @bschlenker: Q1) thought Trng Dpts were “1st to go” in hard times before. Today, IT IS justified. Think different – QUICKLY #lrnchat
04:51:30 pm olliegardener: RT @LnDDave: Q1) The training departments that have focused less on training and more on performance likely have more influence. #lrnchat
04:51:40 pm petersonandrew: #lrnchat Formal training fills in the assembly line knowledge gaps
04:51:43 pm lesleywprice: RT @tracydg1: @_Kavi Exactly. Training is one of the solutions. < only if its aligned to business performance #lrnchat
04:51:48 pm jzurovchak: @stipton Evidence of a shift away from counting course completions and toward some of the other ideas in this forum #lrnchat
04:51:52 pm ThePrezenter: RT @_Kavi: Q1) Its a competitive time. Learning is becoming a differentiator. And more importantly, business is seeing it. #lrnchat
04:51:56 pm AndreaMay1: RT @JffZllr: Training still a need for blue-collar beginrs. #lrnchat <–very true!
04:52:15 pm tracydg1: When seen as a performance consulting, training depts tend to be more easily acceptable and seen as a business partner #lrnchat
04:52:17 pm alc47: @JffZllr Most blue collar workers learn most from watching their experienced workmates – just like everyone else #lrnchat
04:52:28 pm PaFitzpatrick: Q1) TD’s MUST educate the rest of the business so that they understand L&D, forms of L&D that work effectively for role/person/dept #lrnchat
04:52:31 pm JD_Dillon: Q1) Key to continued success is continued learning. The right learning org can facilitate this, but the culture must align. #lrnchat
04:52:31 pm wordwealthy: RT @tracydg1 @alc47 @LnDDave: Q1) training depts that focus less on training and more on performance likely have more influence. #lrnchat
04:52:42 pm aaronesilvers: Q1) For years, “training” measured what could easily be measured. We forget that what we count doesn’t necessarily count. #lrnchat
04:53:04 pm LnDDave: Q1) It’s somewhat ironic, but the training departments that influence more realize they need to control less. #lrnchat
04:53:17 pm sparkandco: RT @AndreaMay1 @JffZllr: Training still need 4 blue-collar beginrs. #lrnchat <–very true! <but still need fdbk loops + spaced repetition
04:53:24 pm C4LPT: Q1) T depts influence is still mainly to enforce formal training – which people endure rather than enjoy #lrnchat
04:53:29 pm bschlenker: Q1) We should begin to train companies how to train each other…to make this transition with new media. THAT’s where the value is #lrnchat
04:53:29 pm lesleywprice: RT @AndreaMay1 @JffZllr Training still need for blue-collar beginrs. #lrnchat < true! <but only if it serves a real business need #lrnchat
04:53:31 pm alc47: RT @aaronesilvers: Q1) “training” measured what could easily be measured. We forget that what we count doesnt necessarily count. #lrnchat
04:53:33 pm amirelion: RT @aaronesilvers: We forget that what we count doesnt necessarily count. #lrnchat
04:53:39 pm StephanieDaul: RT @LnDDave: Q1) Its somewhat ironic, but the training departments that influence more realize they need to control less. #lrnchat
04:53:39 pm stipton: @wordwealthy absolutely – L&D has take resp for blding culture w/bus. We sit in corner &complain & do nothing to lead the charge. #lrnchat
04:53:45 pm jzurovchak: RT @bschlenker: Q1) We should begin to train companies how to train each other…to make this transition with new media. THAT’s where the value is #lrnchat
04:53:55 pm lesleywprice: RT @C4LPT: Q1) T depts influence is still mainly to enforce formal training – which people endure rather than enjoy <exactly! #lrnchat
04:53:55 pm PaFitzpatrick: @jzurovchak it just take one new innovator and one new acceptor to make a change #lrnchat
04:53:57 pm JffZllr: @alc47 – I don’t disagree – if your experienced people are competent. Otherwise “follow Bob” training can be hazardous #lrnchat
04:54:01 pm ThePrezenter: RT @aaronesilvers: Q1) For years, “training” measured what could easily be measured. We forget that what we count doesn’t necessarily count. #lrnchat
04:54:04 pm bschlenker: RT @C4LPT: Q1) T depts influence is still mainly to enforce formal training – which people endure rather than enjoy <true that! #lrnchat
04:54:31 pm jzurovchak: @PaFitzpatrick Wish it were the case here…still hitting the wall….#lrnchat
04:54:57 pm aaronesilvers: Q1) @JffZllr is dead-on. Training is hugely important for skilled labor, military… #lrnchat
04:55:03 pm medikly: Here’s a great presentation if you need inspiration: Shifting To 21st Century Learning http://t.co/uAKfnQ25 #sociallearning #lrnchat
04:55:05 pm alc47: RT @bschlenker: RT @C4LPT: Q1) T depts influence is still mainly to enforce formal training >Still command and control mentality #lrnchat
04:55:07 pm AndreaMay1: RT @sparkandco: Training still need 4 blue-collar beginrs. #lrnchat <–very true! <but still need fdbk loops + spaced repetition <-For sure
04:55:07 pm JffZllr: Once employee knows basics, tie them to a community for ongoing improvement/feedback #lrnchat
04:55:08 pm gerdriesen: Q0) Ger Driesen Netherlands L&D junk learned today from millenial @veramaliepaard more about how they like to work as professional #lrnchat
04:55:19 pm lesleywprice: q1) why don’t training departments anticipate…if they really understood the business they could and then add real value #lrnchat
04:55:25 pm stipton: Let me get this off my chest – stop, for love of Pete, calling yourselves a “training” depart. We train dogs, we develop people. #lrnchat
04:55:25 pm bschlenker: @JffZllr That’s why TRUST is important. If you TRUST that you’re workers are competent then “follow Bob” works fine…right? #lrnchat
04:55:34 pm PaFitzpatrick: @C4LPT the issue is – organisation dont want people to enjoy work, so why enjoy learning? needs to be a mass change in attitude #lrnchat
04:55:36 pm amirelion: Wonder if those that haven’t change will be around in 5 years time… #lrnchat
04:55:37 pm olliegardener: RT @alc47: @JffZllr Most blue collar workers r improvising, learning as they go. Require a wider PLN than the ‘more exp.employees’ #lrnchat
04:55:50 pm TekaraInc: Its a competitive time. Learning is becoming a differentiator. And more importantly, business is seeing it. #lrnchat ~Well said @_Kavi
04:55:50 pm wordwealthy: RT @bschlenker @C4LPT: Q1) T depts influence still mainly to enforce formal training which people endure rather than enjoy <true! #lrnchat
04:55:58 pm alc47: RT @JffZllr: Once employee knows basics, ENCOURAGE them into a community for ongoing improvement/feedback #lrnchat
04:56:03 pm ThePrezenter: Q2) 90% focused on online training and eLearning, and realising that face2face classroom sessions are a thing of the past #lrnchat
04:56:08 pm JffZllr: I think most of our #lrnchat conversations tend to focus on knowledge workers.
04:56:11 pm lesleywprice: RT @stipton: Let me get this off my chest – stop, calling yourselves a “training” depart.We train dogs, we develop people. #lrnchat
04:56:13 pm HollyJustice1: RT @jzurovchak I agree Counting Completions doesn’t tell whole story. Train for job improvements and new projects assigned! #lrnchat
04:56:14 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) Training dept should be a key partner in all facets of the business and support a learning culture, not just events. #lrnchat
04:56:35 pm bschlenker: ? + ? != ? #lrnchat
04:57:00 pm olliegardener: RT @alc47: RT @JffZllr: Once employee knows basics, ENCOURAGE them into a community for ongoing improvement/feedback #lrnchat
04:57:08 pm aaronesilvers: @JffZllr I hear you, boss. #lrnchat
04:57:09 pm JffZllr: Right @bschlenker That’s why TRUST is important. If you TRUST that you’re workers are competent then “follow Bob” works fine-right? #lrnchat
04:57:18 pm sparkandco: RT @JffZllr: I think most of our #lrnchat conversations tend to focus on knowledge workers. <good observation – challenge us
04:57:23 pm nlkilkenny: @techherding Hi, Dick: Q2) Where did you think the training department would be by now? #lrnchat
04:57:24 pm aaronesilvers: RT @bschlenker: ? + ? != ? #lrnchat
04:57:29 pm TerrenceWing: Well said RT @StephanieDaul: RT @LnDDave the training departments that influence more realize they need to control less. #lrnchat
04:57:33 pm techherding: Lovin’ it!
RT @amirelion: RT @aaronesilvers: We forget that what we count doesnt necessarily count. #lrnchat
04:57:40 pm nlkilkenny: Q2) Thought they’d buy in to “informal learning” principles and cultural practices more by now…. maybe an inch or two more
#lrnchat
04:57:44 pm PaFitzpatrick: @jzurovchak I will have some major change things to show you at the end of the year — watch this space #lrnchat
04:58:05 pm statweestics: #lrnchat is getting popular, +900% the last hour : http://t.co/dUAMEJ4d
04:58:05 pm ThePrezenter: #lrnchat Gotta fly guys. Enjoy the rest of your chat. Will trya nd catch up later.
04:58:44 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Where did you think the training department would be by now? #lrnchat
04:58:49 pm TheAirton: Q1) It seems most Learning/ Training Depts have a predisposed mentality to “ride in the back” and be okay with that #lrnchat
04:59:01 pm C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Where did you think the training department would be by now? #lrnchat
04:59:04 pm nlonergan: RT @bschlenker: RT @C4LPT: Q1) T depts influence is still mainly to enforce formal training – which people endure rather than enjoy <true that! #lrnchat
04:59:06 pm lesleywprice: @lrnchat: Q2) Where did you think the training department would be by now? #lrnchat
04:59:28 pm amirelion: Q2) Thought they’d stop asking mgrs. what courses you need? and start asking what are your performance problems. #lrnchat
04:59:35 pm JD_Dillon: I don’t do #training. I do #learning. #lrnchat
04:59:45 pm jzurovchak: #lrnchat Q2) Would have liked more unfettered use of social media tools to build communities within the company….
04:59:48 pm wordwealthy: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Where did you think the training department would be by now? #lrnchat
04:59:51 pm C4LPT: FYI Just seen a notification there is a Twitter timeline problem #lrnchat
05:00:04 pm HollyJustice1: Q2) Hoped for lots of training by video live plus more interactive self-paced training. Still too much passive learning out there. #lrnchat
05:00:17 pm AndreaMay1: RT @stipton: stop, for love of Pete, calling yourselves a “training” depart. We train dogs, we develop people. #lrnchat <–LOL Love it!
05:00:17 pm lesleywprice: q2) thought they might have learned something about training that meets business needs …or is that too big an ask? #lrnchat
05:00:26 pm _Kavi: Q2) Data would be paramount. measuerment would be paramount. While its been important, its not paramount ! performace is ! #lrnchat
05:00:34 pm stipton: Parting thought – good to vent but up to L&D to lead the charge. want Change in culture, start it – don’t take no for an answer. #lrnchat
05:00:37 pm Tracy_Parish: Q2) I was hoping we would have grown staff-wise. 10 years ago 1:266, now were are 1:1000, staff:employees. #lrnchat
05:00:38 pm dpontefract: Retired. RT @lrnchat: Q2) Where did you think the training department would be by now? #lrnchat
05:00:43 pm lesleywprice: RT @C4LPT: FYI Just seen a notification there is a Twitter timeline problem..< twitter has been playing up all afternoon #lrnchat
05:01:16 pm stipton: Gotta run – I love the conversation but conference calls are in my immediate future. #lrnchat
05:01:18 pm dainadunlop: Q2) The same place they’ve been for a long time – need to hire people with a biz background and separate from the HR dept to chg #lrnchat
05:01:35 pm arossett: Hate to fling a cliche, but I hoped the trng dept would have a seat at the table, to influence and execute strategy, to matter. #lrnchat
05:01:39 pm sue_freeman1: @C4LPT #lrnchat Way more use of technology to demonstrate diversity in means of getting the message across.
05:01:40 pm alc47: RT @dpontefract: Retired. RT @lrnchat: Q2) Where did you think the training department would be by now?>Great answer! #lrnchat
05:01:41 pm jzurovchak: Q2) Our execs are taking notice of social media tools to connect w retail customers, but not so much for developing employees yet #lrnchat
05:01:42 pm _Kavi: Q2) Thought most training depts wouldnt go beyond training ! today we have a firmt foot in the partnership door #lrnchat
05:01:42 pm LnDDave: Q2) Honestly? I expect the industry to be exactly where it is. We still need to tip the scales towards this mass shift. #lrnchat
05:01:43 pm DannyOrtegon: Q1) Smart leaders have always opposed anything not supporting BU results. Latest online learning “revolution” just makes it easier #lrnchat
05:01:55 pm tracydg1: RT @AndreaMay1: RT @stipton: stop, for love of Pete, calling yourselves a “training” depart. We train dogs, we develop people. #lrnchat <–LOL Love it!
05:02:13 pm wordwealthy: Q2) Not called a training dept, for starters. Expected more to be focused on personal relevancy and informal learning.#lrnchat
05:02:28 pm dainadunlop: Q2) They still use “Smile” sheets after training – that’s got to go #lrnchat
05:02:44 pm JffZllr: RT @jzurovchak: Q2) Our execs are taking notice of SOME tools to connect w retail customers, but not for developing employees yet #lrnchat
05:02:50 pm sue_freeman1: @stipton #lrnchat I am working subversively at that — trying to set a good example!
05:03:16 pm tracydg1: Q2) thought the word ‘training’ would be archaic and we would be focusing on true learning and development. #lrnchat
05:03:32 pm AjayPangarkar: Training dept must change (they haven’t so far) …they must recognize they are a business unit, not an “academic” unit #lrnchat
05:03:41 pm _Kavi: Q2)Thought we would need more skills in delivery etc ! Discovering that we need to enable access to knowledge/learning & step aside #lrnchat
05:03:44 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) I’d expect learning to be accepted as driver of financial success. I get that corporate culture is not quite there … yet. #lrnchat
05:04:05 pm JffZllr: But some only change their name and keep doing what they’re doing… RT @stipton: stop calling yourselves a “training” depart. #lrnchat
05:04:07 pm _Kavi: RT @dainadunlop: Q2) They still use “Smile” sheets after training – that’s got to go #lrnchat
05:04:17 pm nlkilkenny: @arossett #lrnchat That’s not a cliche it’s valid and an actual need. Training & ID’s often are seen as peripheral like IT.
05:04:43 pm LnDDave: Q2) The question represents the problem. Most never considered it. It’s hard to think about tomorrow when you live in yesterday. #lrnchat
05:04:47 pm aaronesilvers: Q2) I had kinda hoped that for corporate types, “training” would’ve shrunk a bit, maybe even integrated more and become a practice. #lrnchat
05:04:48 pm twb822: @TerrenceWing @StephanieDaul @LnDDave I agree with a hearty AMEN!!! Control is a delusion #lrnchat
05:05:00 pm chrismaclaren: @JD_Dillon Agree – still think learning depts are seen as a nice to have – the blame I think lies with the L&D depts themselves
#lrnchat
05:05:06 pm C4LPT: Q2) I had hoped T depts would be encouraging indivs and teams to become more self-reliant in addressing their performance problems #lrnchat
05:05:08 pm lesleywprice: RT @_Kavi: RT @dainadunlop: Q2) They still use “Smile” sheets after training – thats got to go <hate happy sheets
#lrnchat
05:05:22 pm nlkilkenny: Oh twitter how you gobble up & spit out my tweets #lrnchat
05:05:22 pm stipton: @JffZllr It starts with a mindset change. as do most things. #lrnchat
05:05:32 pm tracydg1: Q2) food for thought:how about being a service provider and partner rather than a cost centre? #lrnchat
05:05:53 pm bschlenker: For non-Apple geeks: ? + ? != ? (translation: Command & Control is not an Option) #lrnchat
05:05:59 pm lesleywprice: @nlkilkenny: @arossett Training & IDs often are seen as peripheral like IT < thats because they are seen as back office function #lrnchat
05:06:05 pm LearnNuggets: Q2) Training dept will change from the top down. Needs a strategic ‘leader’ and not looked at as “that dept. over there.” #lrnchat
05:06:11 pm C4LPT: RT @tracydg1: Q2) tht the word ‘training’ wd be archaic & we wd be focusing on true learning & dev. #lrnchat <more than that -on performance
05:06:13 pm dainadunlop: and they need different people to affect that chg RT @stipton: @JffZllr It starts with a mindset change. as do most things. #lrnchat
05:06:18 pm JD_Dillon: Q2) I think the backseat mentality is partially L&D’s fault … but who put them there in the first place? #lrnchat
05:06:25 pm techherding: +1Go You! RT @stipton: Stop, for love of Pete, calling yourselves a “training” depart. We train dogs, we develop people. #lrnchat
05:06:28 pm aaronesilvers: Q2) Training is supposed to be something we do to develop novices into journeymen. It’s a verb that became a department. #lrnchat
05:06:39 pm TheAirton: Q2) I expected a more solutions based partnership as o
pposed to a “I need/ You make’ #lrnchat
05:06:45 pm chrismaclaren: Q2) I am not surprised to see learning depts in a similar place to where they were 5 years ago – they are often last to innovate!
#lrnchat
05:06:45 pm wordwealthy: RT @JD_Dillon: Q2) I’d expect learning to be accepted as driver of financial success. > YES! #lrnchat
05:06:56 pm LearnNuggets: RT @bschlenker: For non-Apple geeks: ? + ? != ? (translation: Command & Control is not an Option) #lrnchat < Nice!
05:06:57 pm DannyOrtegon: Q2) L&D groups face absorption/exile into “HR Line”. Pressure of org hiearchy trumps critical assessment. #lrnchat
05:07:15 pm PaFitzpatrick: q2) TD’s have advanced. BUT a better understanding on how media tech can dramatically change learning is required #lrnchat
05:07:29 pm JffZllr: RT @TheAirton: Q2) I expected a more solutions based partnership as opposed to a “I need/ You make’ #lrnchat
05:07:40 pm HollyJustice1: Safety, paying attention is key. My hubby trains UPS newbies in loading trailers; they work to avoid accidents. @JffZllr @alc47 #lrnchat
05:07:42 pm LnDDave: Q2) I would have expected more trainers to have the “It’s not about me” epiphany. #lrnchat
05:07:46 pm _Kavi: Q2) Move from being a ‘cost centre’ to …. #lrnchat
05:07:47 pm AndreaMay1: Q2) I truly thought many of them would have more flexibility/agility by now…not so much #lrnchat
05:07:54 pm amirelion: Q2) I joined internal t. depts. 5.5 years ago. Felt I had influence, but not enough. Maybe that’s why I left for supplier side now #lrnchat
05:07:59 pm SandyAdam: RT @bschlenker: For non-Apple geeks: ? + ? != ? (translation: Command & Control is not an Option) #lrnchat
05:08:07 pm C4LPT: RT @chrismaclaren:Q2) I am not surprised to see learning depts in a similar place to 5 years ago – they are often last to innovate! #lrnchat
05:08:10 pm techherding: Big diff btw “competent” and “teacher” RT @bschlenker: @JffZllr If you TRUST that your wkrs are cmpt then “follow Bob” works fine #lrnchat
05:08:19 pm LearnNuggets: @techherding @stipton We could call it the HCMDO – Human Capital Management Development Organization? #lrnchat
05:08:23 pm AndreaMay1: RT @amirelion: Q2) Thought they’d stop asking mgrs. what courses you need? and start asking what r your performance problems. #lrnchat <wish
05:08:33 pm tracydg1: @C4LPT Agree. In support of the organisation’s overall performance. #lrnchat
05:08:36 pm KavisMusings: RT @LnDDave: Q2) I would have expected more trainers to have the “It’s not about me” epiphany. #lrnchat
05:08:43 pm aaronesilvers: Q2) Luke Skywalker had Jedi Training. It’s not all bad. Note though — Master (Yoda) to Apprentice (Luke) #lrnchat
05:08:46 pm bschlenker: Idealist: Training is for dogs. Realist: Training is for workers doing repetitive tasks that they need to memorize, do better. #lrnchat
05:08:48 pm lesleywprice: Q2) Its not just about learning its about understanding where skills and knowledge are relevant and applying where appropriate #lrnchat
05:08:49 pm techherding: OK. You all knew I was lying when I said I was going to lurk, right? #lrnchat
05:08:55 pm SandyAdam: @C4LPT whew, thought it was me #lrnchat
05:09:03 pm dainadunlop: Q2) maybe “training dept’s” need to be trained on how to chg. Where’s the ASTD/CSTD leadership in that? #lrnchat
05:09:06 pm LnDDave: RT @bschlenker: Idealist: Training is for dogs. Realist: Training is for workers doing repetitive tasks that they need to memorize, do better. #lrnchat
05:09:14 pm gerdriesen: Q2) Just tell Mngt you will skip all training initiatives and from their reaction you’ll know where you are #lrnchat
05:09:18 pm nlkilkenny: @lesleywprice @arossett Think it’s ironic. Training/ID just like IT is key to business success.
Still believe it! #lrnchat
05:09:27 pm lrnchat: Q3) What do training departments do well that people don’t always notice they do well? #lrnchat
05:09:31 pm AndreaMay1: @stipton Have fun on those! #lrnchat
05:09:33 pm PaFitzpatrick: q2) do TD’s know how social media, games tech, mobile apps, etc can deliver the essential KSA’s? If not, then the business doesnt #lrnchat
05:09:34 pm MikeCollins007: RT @lesleywprice RT @stipton: We train dogs, we develop people #lrnchat > like photographs?
Ppl develop themselves in right conditions
05:09:45 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q2 the training department is where I thought it’d be: SMEs produce the bulk of their own learning experiences mentored by IDs
05:09:47 pm _Kavi: Q2) Steady state in learning is a dynamic place ! #lrnchat
05:09:48 pm aaronesilvers: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What do training departments do well that people don’t always notice they do well? #lrnchat
05:09:49 pm AjayPangarkar: Q2) #lrnchat…there is nro shame in being a cost center…but be a contributing business unit
05:09:54 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What do training departments do well that people don’t always notice they do well? #lrnchat << C.Y.A.
05:09:54 pm C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What do training departments do well that people don’t always notice they do well? #lrnchat
05:10:05 pm KavisMusings: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What do training departments do well that people don’t always notice they do well? #lrnchat
05:10:05 pm nlkilkenny: RT @dainadunlop: Q2) maybe “training dept’s” need to be trained on how to chg. Where’s the ASTD/CSTD leadership in that? #lrnchat
05:10:06 pm dainadunlop: Q3) they improve internal processes and the customer exp #lrnchat
05:10:07 pm lesleywprice: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What do training departments do well that people dont always notice they do well? #lrnchat
05:10:11 pm TheAirton: Those in #Learning aren’t prepared or care to the right questions or see the expectations to be considered a “partner” #lrnchat
05:10:18 pm nlkilkenny: RT @bschlenker: Idealist: Training is for dogs. Realist: Training is for workers doing repetitive tasks that they need to memorize, do better. #lrnchat
05:10:20 pm chrismaclaren: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What do training departments do well that people dont always notice they do well? #lrnchat
05:10:22 pm jzurovchak: Q3) #lrnchat Use SoMe as a means to connect and build community….demonstrating the desired end in the process…
05:10:24 pm tracydg1: L&D needs to really view itself as being a strategic / forward thnkg entity within the org rather than reactive and responsive #lrnchat
05:10:40 pm lesleywprice: q3)still trying to figure that one out
#lrnchat
05:10:49 pm _Kavi: Q3) They create a +ve mood in the organisation. A mood that the org is interested in employees #lrnchat
05:10:55 pm amirelion: Q3) Some t.dept I know do quite a decent job at induction of large numbers of employees #lrnchat
05:11:04 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q3 training departments do this very well (not that it’s noticed): scaffold SMEs developing their own learning experiences.
05:11:07 pm DannyOrtegon: Q2) Ex: Absorption of many OD functions into “HR” pretty much done deal. L&D must leverage online by being learning architects. #lrnchat
05:11:16 pm Tracy_Parish: RT @_Kavi: Q3) They create a +ve mood in the organisation. A mood that the org is interested in employees #lrnchat
05:11:16 pm PaFitzpatrick: Q3) unfortunately, there is not enough of success measurement carried out – learning Impact on Business #lrnchat
05:11:25 pm AndreaMay1: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What do training departments do well that people don’t always notice they do well? #lrnchat
05:11:35 pm HollyJustice1: I agree. Many jobs in training facilitate partnerships now. RT @_Kavi Q2)… enable access to knowledge/learning & step aside #lrnchat
05:11:41 pm LearnNuggets: Daytime #lrnchat is hard to participate. Just got pulled away. Hope to see/play tonight.
05:11:44 pm LnDDave: Q3) Most Orgs respect the program, but do not realize what it took to build it. #lrnchat
05:11:44 pm TheAirton: Q3) Picking the right color and animations/ transitions for the slides #lrnchat
05:11:47 pm _Kavi: Q3) Creating the +ve mood is often not noticed. But remove all learning initiatives and then see the reaction ! #lrnchat
05:11:49 pm nlkilkenny: @AndreaMay1 @amirelion #lrnchat Amen! Yes! I see some HPI (Performance needs) being addressed but it’s slowly catching on where I work.
05:12:16 pm _Kavi: bang on ! RT @LnDDave: Q3) Most Orgs respect the program, but do not realize what it took to build it. #lrnchat
05:12:20 pm tederick: RT @dpontefract: Retired. RT @lrnchat: Q2) Where did you think the training department would be by now? #lrnchat
05:12:24 pm techherding: @LearnNuggets @stipton Or call it Big Important Training Environment Educational Mechanism #lrnchat
05:12:28 pm urbie: late to the #lrnchat party today: #iOS5 issues delayed me. haven’t updated? might want to wait for the .x release
05:12:38 pm tracydg1: Q3) Are the face of the org and set the tone (usually positive and uplifting) for newcomers #lrnchat
05:12:40 pm chrismaclaren: Finally someone noticed!! Haha RT @TheAirton: Q3) Picking the right color and animations/ transitions for the slides #lrnchat
05:12:42 pm lesleywprice: RT @TheAirton: Q3) Picking the right color and animations/ transitions for the slides < lol!!
#lrnchat
05:12:43 pm wordwealthy: Q3) I don’t know. Haven’t noticed.
…BUT probably large-scale coordination of formal learning. Ton of work goes into it. #lrnchat
05:12:46 pm PaFitzpatrick: Q3) differing performance agenda can disrupt this: what works for one – doesnt work for another #lrnchat
05:12:49 pm ebase: Q3) What do training departments do well that people dont always notice they do well? #lrnchat Keep track of people places and resources
05:12:54 pm JD_Dillon: Q3) What do we do well? Needs analysis for identifying performance AND operational gaps – turning this into learning interventions. #lrnchat
05:13:00 pm chrismaclaren: Spot on! RT @LnDDave: Q3) Most Orgs respect the program, but do not realize what it took to build it. #lrnchat
05:13:02 pm aaronesilvers: Q3) Training is great for mechanics. Training is great for skills that make use of efficiency and effectiveness. #lrnchat
05:13:10 pm arossett: q3) so called training depts typically give a hoot about people development. They advocate it. They symbolize continuous growth. #lrnchat
05:13:13 pm LnDDave: Q3) Project Management. #lrnchat
05:13:38 pm sue_freeman1: #lrnchat “lrn depts the last to innovate”– lrn ldrshp seen as dev oppty =18-24 mo revolving door. Good lrn ldrshp is NOT common or casual!
05:13:45 pm bschlenker: RT @ebase: Q3) What do training departments do well that people dont always notice they do well? #lrnchat Keep track of people places and resources
05:13:46 pm lesleywprice: RT @LnDDave: Q3) Project Management. < ooohh wish I had thought of that one
#lrnchat
05:13:47 pm tracydg1: Q3) begin the integration into the org #lrnchat
05:13:52 pm ebase: Q3) What do training departments do well that people dont always notice they do well? Be consistent in quality and delivery #lrnchat
05:13:54 pm _Kavi: Q3) L&D teams know the pulse of the organisation. #lrnchat
05:14:03 pm Tracy_Parish: Q3) Social convening. We can host events, any event, with our eyes close. #lrnchat
05:14:05 pm chrismaclaren: Q3) Navigating the organization, networking, leveraging SME’s, helping facilitate the sharing of knowledge #lrnchat
05:14:28 pm aaronesilvers: Q3) What training doesn’t do is provide the “adaptive stance” people need to deal with the unknowns. #lrnchat
05:14:29 pm sue_freeman1: #lrnchat We are VERY responsive to our customers!
05:14:36 pm Tracy_Parish: Q3) We’re great at taking the complex and making it look simple or manageable. #lrnchat
05:14:44 pm lesleywprice: RT @_Kavi: Q3) L&D teams know the pulse of the organisation. < if only
#lrnchat
05:14:45 pm HollyJustice1: Q3) Seek outside opinions via #lrnchat! Keep up with the tools of the trade. Hard for those outside training to see importance.
05:14:47 pm LnDDave: Q3) Communicate Effectively. #lrnchat
05:14:54 pm LnDDave: RT @Tracy_Parish: Q3) We’re great at taking the complex and making it look simple or manageable. #lrnchat
05:15:08 pm amirelion: Q3) sometimes good t. dept. are able to put a shocking mirror in front of execs #lrnchat
05:15:11 pm aaronesilvers: Q3) Training is about algorithms. For heuristics, you need to be cognitively flexible; agile and adaptive #lrnchat
05:15:14 pm bschlenker: RT @aaronesilvers: Q3) Training is great for mechanics. Training is great for skills that make use of efficiency and effectiveness. #lrnchat
05:15:14 pm billcush: Please Don’t Call Your LMS an LMS | @Mindflash http://t.co/UUgfMPnR #lrnchat
05:15:25 pm dainadunlop: Yes we are RT @Tracy_Parish: Q3) We’re great at taking the complex and making it look simple or manageable. #lrnchat
05:15:26 pm AndreaMay1: Q3)Trng dept r good at setting and maintaining standards…bad thing about decentralized, informal…no standards, can’t maintain #lrnchat
05:15:33 pm arossett: q3) Training depts know where unrealized resources sit. Like 1st line supervisors. Oh how we need them, oh how they frustrate us. #lrnchat
05:15:36 pm _Kavi: 3) The defining of problems by business leaders, bring clarity to themselves ! Good questions help ! #lrnchat
05:15:36 pm tracydg1: Q3) forward thinking depts usually introduce the org to new technologies to help to improve learning, communication, collaboration #lrnchat
05:15:40 pm chrismaclaren: Q3) demonstrate high communication, presentation and facilitation skills
#lrnchat
05:15:56 pm AndreaMay1: @nlkilkenny It can’t happen fast enough! #lrnchat
05:16:03 pm MikeCollins007: Q3. No one has mentioned having to demo to regulator that ppl have received training via induction or programme to be compliant #lrnchat
05:16:04 pm JJRiquelmeM: RT @TekaraInc: Its a competitive time. Learning is becoming a differentiator. And more importantly, business is seeing it. #lrnchat ~Well said @_Kavi
05:16:13 pm LnDDave: Q3) We’re also REALLY good at generating reports that no one looks at.
#lrnchat
05:16:26 pm lesleywprice: RT @chrismaclaren: Q3) demonstrate high communication, presentation and facilitation skills <evidence??? #lrnchat
05:16:34 pm lesleywprice: RT @LnDDave: Q3) Were also REALLY good at generating reports that no one looks at.
#lrnchat
05:16:41 pm PaFitzpatrick: RT @LnDDave: Q3) Project Management. #lrnchat > I would argue that in terms of elearning. Lack of dev knowledge cripples projects
05:16:44 pm _Kavi:
Oh yes they do. Or rather..they better! RT @lesleywprice: RT @_Kavi: Q3) L&D teams know pulse of the organisation. < if only
#lrnchat
05:16:59 pm JD_Dillon: @LnDDave – Agreed! Q3) We’re also REALLY good at generating reports that no one looks at.
#lrnchat
05:17:02 pm wordwealthy: Q3) While great depts exist, my experience is most focus on baseline skills devt or training in management principles. #lrnchat
05:17:03 pm chrismaclaren: @aaronesilvers Agree – We often fail to prepare them for “what if?” rather than “what’s known”… #lrnchat
05:17:06 pm _Kavi: ha ha !! RT @LnDDave: Q3) We’re also REALLY good at generating reports that no one looks at.
#lrnchat
05:17:07 pm lesleywprice: RT @LnDDave: Q3) Were also REALLY good at generating reports that no one looks at.
< can we get a certificate for that? #lrnchat
05:17:20 pm C4LPT: RT @LnDDave: Q3) We’re also REALLY good at generating reports that no one looks at.
#lrnchat
05:17:36 pm aaronesilvers: RT @C4LPT: RT @LnDDave: Q3) We’re also REALLY good at generating reports that no one looks at.
#lrnchat
05:17:40 pm AndreaMay1: RT @sue_freeman1: #lrnchat We are VERY responsive to our customers! <–I all were like that, but sadly not the case.
05:17:47 pm alc47: Q3 Are these things really “good” in the learning context – I fear not #lrnchat
05:17:58 pm chrismaclaren: And happy sheets that show all were happy! RT @LnDDave: Q3) Were also REALLY good at generating reports that no one looks at.
#lrnchat
05:18:27 pm MikeCollins007: Q3. We offer businesses peace of mind that ppl have been ‘trained’ and the box has been ticked #lrnchat
05:18:29 pm LnDDave: Q3) Building a bridge between the needs of the org and the desire of the individual. #lrnchat
05:18:36 pm wordwealthy: RT @aaronesilvers: Q3) What training doesn’t do is provide the “adaptive stance” people need to deal with the unknowns. >agree! #lrnchat
05:18:46 pm aaronesilvers: @chrismaclaren The thing is… you can’t *train* for “what if”; that requires experience. #lrnchat
05:18:48 pm dainadunlop: Q3) What we need to be really good at is chg behaviour and keeping it changed #lrnchat
05:18:51 pm amirelion: RT @LnDDave: Q3) Were also REALLY good at generating reports that no one looks at.
< Only after advanced Excel course #lrnchat
05:18:57 pm gerdriesen: Q3) training dprts provide good (formal skills training, make pro’s more effective (keep fingers crossed on @JaneBozarth reaction) #lrnchat
05:18:59 pm chrisstjohn: Call for Presentations. June 5-7, 2012 Innovations in eLearning Symposium (DAU/GMU) goto ow.ly/1tqEf5 for keynotes/workshops #lrnchat
05:19:20 pm wordwealthy: RT @dainadunlop: Q3) What we need to be really good at is chg behaviour and keeping it changed #lrnchat
05:19:33 pm C4LPT: Q3) Well the lack of inspiring answers to this Q says it all for me #lrnchat
05:19:38 pm lesleywprice: q3) and numeracy/arithmetic..we can count courses and people that have been on them #lrnchat
05:19:48 pm gerdriesen: Saw today dogs can train people! “@MikeCollins007: RT @lesleywprice RT @stipton: We train dogs, we develop people #lrnchat >
05:19:57 pm dainadunlop: That’s funny but true RT @lesleywprice: q3) and numeracy/arithmetic..we can count courses and people that have been on them #lrnchat
05:19:59 pm lesleywprice: RT @C4LPT: Q3) Well the lack of inspiring answers to this Q says it all for me #lrnchat
05:20:33 pm chrismaclaren: @aaronesilvers Agree of course, but we need to shift the mindset of employees that think we do… #lrnchat
05:20:45 pm gerdriesen: ! “@aaronesilvers: Q3) Training is great for mechanics. Training is great for skills that make use of efficiency + effectiveness. #lrnchat”
05:20:51 pm AndreaMay1: @chrismaclaren The thing is… you can’t *train* for “what if” #lrnchat True, but u can teach strategies for dealing with what if
05:20:52 pm arossett: RT @nlkilkenny: Training & ID’s seen as peripheral like IT. I worked at an accountant conference. Bemoaned peripheral status too. #lrnchat
05:20:53 pm _Kavi: Q3) This question has got me thinking. Actually, ..’ouch’ … #lrnchat
05:21:10 pm lesleywprice: q3) we can count courses and people that have been on them < we can even tell you how much it cost…maybe #lrnchat
05:21:13 pm gerdriesen: “@_Kavi: Q3) L&D teams know the pulse of the organisation. #lrnchat”
05:22:02 pm JffZllr: I struggle w/ it too… RT @_Kavi: Q3) This question has got me thinking. Actually, ..’ouch’ .. #lrnchat
05:22:03 pm TheAirton: Q3) My main role is being the “Floor psychologist” #lrnchat
05:22:09 pm lrnchat: Q4) What do training departments try to do that they suck at? #lrnchat
05:22:15 pm tracydg1: RT @AndreaMay1: @chrismaclaren The thing is… you can’t *train* for “what if” #lrnchat True, but u can teach strategies for dealing with what if
05:22:22 pm AndreaMay1: RT @gerdriesen: Saw today dogs can train people! @MikeCollins007 @lesleywprice @stipton: #lrnchat > my dog has successfully trained me!
05:22:27 pm C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do training departments try to do that they suck at? #lrnchat
05:22:29 pm bschlenker: RT @C4LPT: Q3) Well the lack of inspiring answers to this Q says it all for me <doesn’t it though? wow! #lrnchat
05:22:58 pm _Kavi: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do training departments try to do that they suck at? #lrnchat
05:22:59 pm amirelion: Q4) I feel a bashing coming on… #lrnchat
05:23:01 pm techherding: RT @LnDDave: Q3) We’re also REALLY good at generating reports that no one looks at. << AKA “Metrics That Don’t Matter” #lrnchat
05:23:02 pm PaFitzpatrick: Q3) What they shouldnt – try to be everything rather that focus on the key focus #lrnchat
05:23:08 pm bschlenker: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do training departments try to do that they suck at? <Prove Business value #lrnchat
05:23:10 pm AndreaMay1: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do training departments try to do that they suck at? #lrnchat
05:23:20 pm LnDDave: RT @C4LPT: Q3) Well the lack of inspiring answers to this Q says it all for me #lrnchat <<Exactly
05:23:34 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) We definitely suck at saying “No” sometimes … especially to internal client groups. #lrnchat
05:23:43 pm aaronesilvers: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do training departments try to do that they suck at? #lrnchat
05:23:51 pm dainadunlop: Q4) Actually change behaviour #lrnchat
05:23:54 pm _Kavi: RT @JD_Dillon: Q4) We definitely suck at saying “No” sometimes … especially to internal client groups. #lrnchat
05:24:07 pm JffZllr: Amen! RT @JD_Dillon: Q4) We definitely suck at saying “No” sometimes … especially to internal client groups. #lrnchat
05:24:12 pm amirelion: RT @JD_Dillon: Q4) We definitely suck at saying “No” sometimes … especially to internal client groups. << =lack of real focus #lrnchat
05:24:31 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do training departments try to do that they suck at? #lrnchat
05:25:05 pm _Kavi: Q4) forcefit ‘solutions’ which then turn out to be bigger problems ! #lrnchat
05:25:06 pm jzurovchak: Q4 #lrnchat Demonstrate the link between performance improvement and our training and development efforts
05:25:08 pm aaronesilvers: My question: what behaviors are they trying to change? > RT @dainadunlop: Q4) Actually change behaviour #lrnchat
05:25:32 pm dainadunlop: Q4) Creating lean and focused improvement programs #lrnchat
05:25:36 pm LnDDave: Q4) While we’re skilled at facilitating change, we often suck at it in our own role. #lrnchat
05:25:38 pm aaronesilvers: Do they *try*? RT @jzurovchak: Q4 #lrnchat Demonstrate the link between performance improvement and our training and development efforts
05:25:43 pm amirelion: We suck at stopping to chase after trivial things such as workshop sandwiches and thinking on what really matters #lrnchat
05:26:07 pm techherding: Q4) Teach their customers to fish, rather then just giving them fish. #lrnchat
05:26:07 pm jzurovchak: @aaronesilvers #lrnchat We try….and fail….
05:26:09 pm _Kavi: Q4) Partnering with business and focussing on business needs. Not on capabilities of the training team ! #lrnchat
05:26:10 pm chrisstjohn: Q4: IT #lrnchat
05:26:27 pm AndreaMay1: Q4) Often they try to make the same solution work for everything they do…definitely sucks #lrnchat
05:26:30 pm LnDDave: RT @techherding: Q4) Teach their customers to fish, rather then just giving them fish. #lrnchat
05:26:35 pm dainadunlop: That’s the 1st question to ask RT @aaronesilvers: My question: what behaviors are they trying to change? #lrnchat
05:26:44 pm HollyJustice1: Q4) Be $$$ generating. Evidence in work for SW company.Training for your SW products buys loyalty & support. It is not a cash cow.
#lrnchat
05:26:53 pm bschlenker: And on a side note: I’d like to welcome anyone new to #lrnchat today! Several new peeps to follow. Welcome! #lrnchat
05:27:06 pm LnDDave: RT @bschlenker: And on a side note: I’d like to welcome anyone new to #lrnchat today! Several new peeps to follow. Welcome! #lrnchat
05:27:09 pm AndreaMay1: Q4) Also suck at meaningful evaluation #lrnchat
05:27:13 pm alc47: Q4 Control learning either overtly or covertly #lrnchat
05:27:15 pm sue_freeman1: #lrnchat Energizing workers — who don’t want to be energized. We do all right with the willing…
05:27:29 pm jzurovchak: RT @AndreaMay1: Q4) suck at meaningful evaluation #lrnchat
05:27:30 pm _Kavi: Q4) Get lost in a world of PPTs, exercises, courses, tests and activities ! These are means. not ends ! #lrnchat
05:27:34 pm PaFitzpatrick: Q4) Terrible at evaluating the success of learning delivery, they go from project2project without proper analysis on what works #lrnchat
05:27:44 pm chrismaclaren: Q4) try and ‘own’ knowledge #lrnchat
05:27:44 pm aaronesilvers: RT @PaFitzpatrick: Q4) Terrible at evaluating the success of learning delivery, they go from project2project without proper analysis on what works #lrnchat
05:27:45 pm lesleywprice: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What do training departments try to do that they suck at? #lrnchat
05:27:55 pm amirelion: @bschlenker Could join today as it’s holiday in Israel. 6:30 PM here. #lrnchat
05:28:02 pm LnDDave: Q4) Letting Go. #lrnchat
05:28:10 pm C4LPT: Q4) T depts actually fail to help pple understand tht “learning” – not just training – is the key to continuous improvement #lrnchat
05:28:14 pm _Kavi: RT @LnDDave: Q4) Letting Go. #lrnchat
05:28:20 pm aaronesilvers: RT @LnDDave: Q4) Letting Go. #lrnchat
05:28:25 pm lesleywprice: q4)assessment….when will they learn that assessment is not about testing? #lrnchat
05:28:26 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q4 training departments shouldn’t try to integrate humor into their courses because they’re not so good at it
05:28:45 pm bschlenker: RT @amirelion: @bschlenker Could join today as its holiday in Israel. 6:30 PM here. <Glad you’re here! Great input! #lrnchat
05:28:51 pm PaFitzpatrick: RT @C4LPT: Q4) T depts actually fail to help pple understand tht “learning” – not just training – is the key to continuous improvement #lrnchat
05:28:53 pm amirelion: Q4) Daring to ask difficult questions. #lrnchat
05:28:56 pm LnDDave: Q4) Moving away from an event-based model. #lrnchat
05:29:04 pm PaFitzpatrick: RT @urbie: #lrnchat Q4 training departments shouldn’t try to integrate humor into their courses because they’re not so good at it
05:29:11 pm arossett: q4] execution… following programs into work and life, seeding the workplace, assuring alignment, enabling indep lrng and ref. #lrnchat
05:29:15 pm aaronesilvers: @LnDDave Do they even try? #lrnchat
05:29:16 pm bschlenker: RT @LnDDave: Q4) Letting Go. <Sometimes the simplest answers are the most profound #lrnchat
05:29:30 pm chrismaclaren: Q4) understand that learning is not about the deployment, but about the end change in behavior #lrnchat
05:29:37 pm AndreaMay1: Q4) Pushing back when the business says they need “training”…do they really? #lrnchat
05:29:49 pm _Kavi: Q4) The focus of learning is with the ‘learner’ ! A key enabler is the learners manager ! rope them in ! #lrnchat
05:29:54 pm amirelion: RT @urbie: Q4 training departments shouldnt try to integrate humor into their courses because theyre not so good at it < FUNNY! #lrnchat
05:29:55 pm techherding: +1 RT @AndreaMay1: Q4) Pushing back when the business says they need “training”…do they really? #lrnchat
05:30:02 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q4 an other thing that training departments aren’t so adept at is vetting educational technology before employing it
05:30:02 pm LnDDave: RT @aaronesilvers: @LnDDave Do they even try? #lrnchat < Some do, but not hard enough.
05:30:05 pm JffZllr: Great TED talk about buying a drill… don’t need drill, just the hole! @_Kavi These are means. not ends ! #lrnchat
05:30:26 pm jzurovchak: Q4) #lrnchat Getting a seat at the table with the C-level gang and being taken seriously…
05:30:29 pm 4KM: A4) Informal learning; Social learning ; Constructivist learning #lrnchat
05:30:42 pm C4LPT: Q4) They fail to realise that most of the real learning happens without them being involved at all #lrnchat
05:30:43 pm LnDDave: Q4) Moving things from the ‘Wish List’ to the ‘Action List’. #lrnchat
05:30:47 pm chrismaclaren: Q4) understanding how learning really happens within the org
#lrnchat
05:30:53 pm aaronesilvers: RT @C4LPT: Q4) They fail to realise that most of the real learning happens without them being involved at all #lrnchat
05:31:03 pm aaronesilvers: RT @chrismaclaren: Q4) understanding how learning really happens within the org
#lrnchat
05:31:04 pm LnDDave: RT @C4LPT: Q4) They fail to realise that most of the real learning happens without them being involved at all #lrnchat
05:31:05 pm stipton: So true! RT @C4LPT: Q4) They fail to realise that most of the real learning happens without them being involved at all #lrnchat
05:31:09 pm lesleywprice: RT @C4LPT: Q4) They fail to realise that most of the real learning happens without them being involved at all #lrnchat
05:31:13 pm AndreaMay1: RT @jzurovchak: Q4) #lrnchat Getting a seat at the table with the C-level gang and being taken seriously…< This is a CONSTANT challenge
05:31:18 pm HollyJustice1: #lrnchat Q4) What do training departments try to do that they suck at? These answers are making me sad! Core stuff we should do.
05:31:18 pm chrismaclaren: Yes!! RT @C4LPT: Q4) They fail to realise that most of the real learning happens without them being involved at all #lrnchat
05:31:34 pm _Kavi: Q4) Leveraging of social media tools for which, L&D needs to be familiar & comy with social media tools #lrnchat
05:31:42 pm amirelion: RT @AndreaMay1: Q4) Pushing back when the business says they need “training”…do they really? <<< SO TRUE #lrnchat
05:31:42 pm C4LPT: Q4) They fail to realise they can’t manage everything everyone learns in the organisation #lrnchat
05:31:45 pm 4KM: A4) Developing strong, meaningful relationships beyond their department boundaries #lrnchat
05:31:48 pm janenb: RT @AndreaMay1: Q4) Pushing back when the business says they need “training”…do they really? #lrnchat
05:31:48 pm jzurovchak: Q4) Getting organization to understand what they REALLY do…#lrnchat
05:31:49 pm wordwealthy: Have to run but tnx for a great #lrnchat. Good to be back in the loop. Feel like Q5 for another time should be: How do we fix Q4?
05:32:11 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) Getting the big, game-changing initiatives approved/developed while not being distracted by short-term business requests. #lrnchat
05:32:12 pm alc47: RT @C4LPT: Q4) T depts fail to help pple understand learningis the key to continuous improvement>so fail with their core mission #lrnchat
05:32:14 pm LnDDave: Q4) Doing what should be done rather than what’s always been done. #lrnchat
05:32:15 pm lesleywprice: q4)they fail to realise that they are their to improve business results and that does not always just = training #lrnchat
05:32:29 pm _Kavi: RT @HollyJustice1: #lrnchat Q4) What do training departments…they suck at? These answers are making me sad! Core stuff we should do.
05:32:38 pm tracydg1: #lrnchat Thanks for a great session. Looking forward to next week.
05:32:59 pm arossett: q4] letting go– judiciously. I worry tht we throw our hands up about influence at work. We must, without hyper managing #lrnchat
05:33:02 pm alc47: Q4 Fail to recognise their role is to help not manage #lrnchat
05:33:04 pm dainadunlop: Yes! RT @lesleywprice: q4)they fail to realise they are there to improve business results and that does not always just = training #lrnchat
05:33:06 pm PaFitzpatrick: Q4) In some cases the believe learning should be a dictation, where they are frightened in exploration. #lrnchat
05:33:07 pm chrismaclaren: Q4) keep their focus on the wider business objective / need #lrnchat
05:33:11 pm LnDDave: RT @arossett: q4] letting go– judiciously. I worry tht we throw our hands up about influence at work. We must, without hyper managing #lrnchat
05:33:22 pm techherding: RT @lesleywprice …and that does not always just = training #lrnchat << I’d venture that RARELY does “just training” increase business.
05:33:26 pm AndreaMay1: RT @LnDDave: Q4) Doing what should be done rather than what’s always been done. #lrnchat <–Here, here!
05:33:43 pm PaFitzpatrick: Q4) TD’s dont believe that they need to education and develop their own skills on what works for the learners #lrnchat
05:34:08 pm chrismaclaren: Q4) that they are a means to the end – their learning deployment is not the end itself!
#lrnchat
05:34:12 pm alc47: Q4 Fail in gaining respect of the business as people able to help improve performnace #lrnchat
05:34:16 pm 4KM: Once asked director of HR (where I was in employee & org development) about metrics. “Bums in seats of course.” #lrnchat
05:34:19 pm anicole87: RT @arossett: q4] letting go– judiciously. I worry tht we throw our hands up about influence at work. We must, without hyper managing #lrnchat
05:34:24 pm bschlenker: RT @arossett: q4] execution… following programs into work and life, seeding the workplace, assuring alignment, enabling indep lrng and ref. #lrnchat
05:34:27 pm C4LPT: Q1) They fail to realise that a LMS does NOT manage learning #lrnchat
05:34:36 pm sue_freeman1: #lrnchat And occasionally they want us to spin flax into gold… ![]()
05:34:42 pm 4KM: LOL RT @C4LPT: Q1) They fail to realise that a LMS does NOT manage learning #lrnchat
05:34:49 pm JD_Dillon: Q4) We kinda suck at devoting time/effort to developing our own team members. Clients aren’t the only learners. #lrnchat
05:34:57 pm JffZllr: 4) Gap between what we offer others and how we learn ourselves… #lrnchat
05:35:00 pm LnDDave: Q4) Looking at “What If?” as a question of possibilities instead of a question of risks. #lrnchat
05:35:10 pm techherding: Lovin’ it! RT @C4LPT: Q1) They fail to realise that a LMS does NOT manage learning #lrnchat
05:35:12 pm dainadunlop: Got to go – thanks for the chat #lrnchat
05:35:28 pm LnDDave: RT @C4LPT: Q1) They fail to realise that a LMS does NOT manage learning #lrnchat < Or that you may not even need one.
05:35:34 pm _Kavi: RT @JD_Dillon: Q4) We kinda suck at devoting time/effort to developing our own team members. Clients aren’t the only learners. #lrnchat
05:35:35 pm chrismaclaren: Yep – eating our own dog food! RT @JD_Dillon: Q4) We kinda suck at devoting time/effort to developing our own team members. #lrnchat
05:35:43 pm alc47: Q4 Pursue LMS as a holy grail – when in fact it gets in the way of learning #lrnchat
05:36:02 pm bschlenker: RT @C4LPT: Q4) They fail to realise that most of the real learning happens without them being involved at all #lrnchat
05:36:02 pm _Kavi: Has huge ramifications! RT @alc47: Q4 Fail in gaining respect of the business as people able to help improve performnace #lrnchat
05:36:05 pm lrnchat: Q5) How can training departments stay relevant? #lrnchat
05:36:06 pm MikeCollins007: RT @AndreaMay1 RT @gerdriesen: Saw today dogs can train people! @MikeCollins007 @lesleywprice @stipton: #lrnchat > every dog has its day
05:36:16 pm jzurovchak: #lrnchat Time for me to run….thanks for a very thought-provoking time today!
05:36:23 pm C4LPT: Q4) They fail to realise that most learning occurs in the workflow not in separate learning systems #lrnchat
05:36:24 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q4 one thing that training departments REALLY suck at is seeing what they do/contribute to an org. through the eyes of the customer
05:36:31 pm AndreaMay1: RT @JD_Dillon: Q4)suck at devoting effort to developing Rown team. Clients aren’t the only learners. #lrnchat <–U hit that nail on the head
05:36:32 pm _Kavi: RT @lrnchat: Q5) How can training departments stay relevant? #lrnchat
05:36:49 pm JD_Dillon: Q5) Stay relevant by partnering with learning professionals outside your company – what cool stuff are they doing? #lrnchat
05:36:51 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q5) How can training departments stay relevant? #lrnchat
05:36:52 pm chrismaclaren: RT @lrnchat: Q5) How can training departments stay relevant? #lrnchat
05:36:53 pm chrismaclaren: Q5) by staying close to the business
#lrnchat
05:37:00 pm professorjosh: Seeing what #lrnchat is all about right now – Guess I’ll need to play catch up – Pardon my tweets!
05:37:20 pm aaronesilvers: RT @lrnchat: Q5) How can training departments stay relevant? #lrnchat
05:37:45 pm alc47: Q5 The only way is by winning the confidence of business that they understand and have something to offer to help solve problems #lrnchat
05:37:47 pm AndreaMay1: RT @lrnchat: Q5) How can training departments stay relevant? #lrnchat
05:37:54 pm chrismaclaren: Q5) by focusing on developing their own skills and learning from other orgs #lrnchat
05:37:55 pm olliegardener: RT @alc47: Q4 Pursue LMS as a holy grail – when in fact it gets in the way of learning #lrnchat
05:37:55 pm JD_Dillon: Q5) Stay relevant by grabbing (not asking for) a seat at the table for key business decisions. #lrnchat
05:37:59 pm 4KM: A5 Insist on collaborative design work w senior management #lrnchat
05:38:04 pm LnDDave: Q5) Training Departments can stay relevant by swimming with the changing tide instead of against it. #lrnchat
05:38:05 pm lesleywprice: q4) fail to realise that they are not engaging with CEO’s http://t.co/DnHhSm23 only 18% of CEO’s think L & D add value #lrnchat
05:38:08 pm amirelion: Q5) Start asking the right questions re: performance and biz results #lrnchat
05:38:13 pm _Kavi: Q5) Stay focussed. Stay relevant. to performance and results ! #lrnchat
05:38:27 pm HollyJustice1: I agree.Look around like a newbie and see what’s up! RT@chrismaclaren Q4) understanding how learning really happens within the org #lrnchat
05:38:27 pm JD_Dillon: Q5) Stay relevant by suggesting your peers participant in #lrnchat! ![]()
05:38:34 pm PaFitzpatrick: Q5) by understanding how to deliver learning, knowledge, skills. How to get people and stake holder to embrace learning #lrnchat
05:38:34 pm _Kavi: Q5) back up arguments with research and data #lrnchat
05:38:45 pm alc47: @_Kavi Road to oblivion if it fails #lrnchat
05:38:52 pm 4KM: @techherding Small uncomfortable chairs could help too w numbers and speed of rotation #lrnchat
05:39:02 pm bschlenker: Here’s a little ointment after the beating: REGULATIONS will ALWAYS require prove of TRAINING. We do THAT very efficiently #lrnchat
05:39:06 pm lesleywprice: q5)talk business language…don’t use training L & D jargon or #buzzwords #lrnchat
05:39:17 pm chrismaclaren: Q5) by exploring, embracing and implementing latest trends, technologies and ideas #lrnchat
05:39:25 pm _Kavi: Q5) Speak to people. Listen to people. Its all about people. And therefore, learn their language ! #lrnchat
05:39:36 pm chrismaclaren: Essential! RT @lesleywprice: q5)talk business language…dont use training L & D jargon or #buzzwords #lrnchat
05:39:38 pm LnDDave: Q5) Eliminate the word ‘Training’ from your vocabulary. Language is powerful and can shift perspectives. #lrnchat
05:39:47 pm amirelion: Q5) build platforms and more opportunities for good learning to happen all around the org #lrnchat
05:39:53 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q5 training departments can stay relevant by being like Private Duffy in http://t.co/bAGCe0tp and working with the customer
05:40:09 pm alc47: @bschlenker Is that ointment deserved? #lrnchat
05:40:11 pm JD_Dillon: @LnDDave – Agreed! Like I said, I don’t do #training. I do #learning! #lrnchat
05:40:13 pm PaFitzpatrick: Q5) Dont fight: Social Learning, Games Technology or Mobile dev – these are their to help – embrace it #lrnchat
05:40:17 pm professorjosh: Q5) Find what users really need, make sure you are updating, provide a multitude of modes & get ahead of the norm #lrnchat
05:40:23 pm maranca: Q4) you train dogs and pple learn #lrnchat
05:40:26 pm C4LPT: Q5) By moving from “command and control” mentality to “encourage and engage” = very different approaches #lrnchat
05:40:38 pm chrismaclaren: Q5) Stop doing the airplane routine at beginning of formal learning – phones off, sit still, face front! #lrnchat
05:40:38 pm LnDDave: RT @C4LPT: Q5) By moving from “command and control” mentality to “encourage and engage” = very different approaches #lrnchat
05:40:56 pm _Kavi: Q5) embrace change and tchnology. These are enablers. besides, thats what new age learners are comfortable with #lrnchat
05:41:00 pm PaFitzpatrick: Q5) Take time to understand what the learner really wants/needs — dont assume one shoe fits all #lrnchat
05:41:06 pm _Kavi: RT @LnDDave: Q5) Eliminate the word ‘Training’ from your vocabulary. Language is powerful and can shift perspectives. #lrnchat
05:41:11 pm AndreaMay1: Q5) Shift focus from service provider to collaborator…use our knowledge to help business further their goals #lrnchat
05:41:27 pm lesleywprice: q5) There just seems to be such a proliferation of #buzzwords…even L & D people don’t understand them…#plainenglish please?? #lrnchat
05:41:33 pm chrismaclaren: RT @_Kavi: Q5) embrace change and tchnology. These are enablers. besides, thats what new age learners are comfortable with #lrnchat
05:41:51 pm techherding: @alc47 @bschlenker I’ve used Dr. Brent’s Magical Learning Salve, and I’m here to tell you it’s better than lard mixed with Tabasco! #lrnchat
05:41:55 pm _Kavi: Q5) Plan the work. Work the plan. Thats the best way to build reputation #lrnchat
05:42:02 pm alc47: Q5 Understand the difference between managing learning and leadership in learning #lrnchat
05:42:09 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q5 training departments can stay relevant by using words with fewer syllables when they talk about what they do to help an org.
05:42:12 pm 4KM: A5) Find ways to inspire decision makers about new ways of #learning. Make it source of pride; not item on to do list #lrnchat
05:42:13 pm LnDDave: Q5) Allocate a little more of ‘today’ to thinking and planning for tomorrow. #lrnchat
05:42:13 pm PaFitzpatrick: Q5) if you do elearning – do it right. Dont assume that rapid development is best – understand the learner, objective and need #lrnchat
05:42:27 pm chrismaclaren: Q5) Put greater focus on ongoing performance support, not initial deployment #lrnchat
05:42:35 pm ebase: RT @amirelion: Q3) sometimes good t. dept. are able to put a shocking mirror in front of execs #lrnchat
05:42:47 pm olliegardener: q5) be creative, listen, support, enable, engage- b the catalyst for performance, learning and change – then get out of the way! #lrnchat
05:42:49 pm professorjosh: Q4) Training dept should not be the only trainers, figure out the team of people who will be best trainers on a topics & get buy in #lrnchat
05:43:01 pm C4LPT: Q5) Help individuals and teams work smarter (learning is a means to the end; not the end goal) #lrnchat
05:43:05 pm _Kavi: Q5) The day, business folks take to learning roles, the team has evolved to a higher plane ! #lrnchat
05:43:06 pm ebase: RT @alc47: Q5 Understand the difference between managing learning and leadership in learning #lrnchat
05:43:09 pm olliegardener: RT @_Kavi: Q5) embrace change and tchnology. These are enablers. besides, thats what new age learners are comfortable with #lrnchat
05:43:10 pm 4KM: @alc47 Say more? #lrnchat
05:43:17 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q5 training departments can stay relevant by capturing stories from the trenches and making learning experiences from them
05:43:23 pm LnDDave: Q5) Want to shift towards a culture of continuous learning and development? Start with yourself. #lrnchat
05:43:29 pm _Kavi: RT @LnDDave: Q5) Want to shift towards a culture of continuous learning and development? Start with yourself. #lrnchat
05:43:36 pm aaronesilvers: RT @LnDDave: Q5) Want to shift towards a culture of continuous learning and development? Start with yourself. #lrnchat
05:43:36 pm olliegardener: RT @C4LPT: Q5) By moving from “command and control” mentality to “encourage and engage” = very different approaches #lrnchat
05:43:40 pm LnDDave: RT @C4LPT: Q5) Help individuals and teams work smarter (learning is a means to the end; not the end goal) #lrnchat
05:43:46 pm ebase: Q5) stay aligned with the priorities of the company #lrnchat
05:43:50 pm _Kavi: RT @urbie: #lrnchat Q5 training departments can stay relevant by capturing stories from the trenches & making learning experiences from them
05:43:52 pm alc47: Q5 Lock the office-get out into the business and learn what it is about – then look to see what can be done from learning to help #lrnchat
05:43:54 pm rickzanotti: RT @C4LPT: Q5) Help individuals and teams work smarter (learning is a means to the end; not the end goal) #lrnchat
05:44:12 pm ebase: Q5) reframe issues to reveal the learning need #lrnchat
05:44:19 pm HollyJustice1: Q5) Stay relevant by listening to grapevine. What do the employees say at lunch? Then tie dept needs and new tools to training. #lrnchat
05:44:26 pm _Kavi: Q5) Be regular at #lrnchat ![]()
05:44:26 pm C4LPT: RT @alc47: Q5 Lock the office-get out into the business and learn what it is about – then look to see what can be done to help #lrnchat
05:44:37 pm maranca: Q5) How can training departments stay relevant? #lrnchat – they can become a learner again…
05:44:37 pm techherding: As Patrick said, beware Rapid Development. I’ve never had a client show my work and say “Of course, he did this really fast.” #lrnchat
05:44:38 pm dbhasin: RT @4KM: A5) Find ways to inspire decision makers about new ways of #learning. Make it source of pride; not item on to do list #lrnchat
05:44:47 pm mpsavage: RT @aaronesilvers: Q1) I think 5yrs ago Training Depts. assumed they owned “learning.” Turns out everyone owns it. #lrnchat
05:44:49 pm _Kavi: RT @ebase: Q5) reframe issues to reveal the learning need #lrnchat
05:44:50 pm 4KM: A5) Consider severing ties btwn standard HR functions and learning functions. Attach latter to org executive #lrnchat
05:44:51 pm dbhasin: RT @_Kavi: RT @urbie: #lrnchat Q5 training departments can stay relevant by capturing stories from the trenches & making learning experiences from them
05:44:56 pm dbhasin: RT @lrnchat: Q5) How can training departments stay relevant? #lrnchat
05:45:04 pm dbhasin: RT @_Kavi: Has huge ramifications! RT @alc47: Q4 Fail in gaining respect of the business as people able to help improve performnace #lrnchat
05:45:07 pm alc47: RT @_Kavi: Q5) Be regular at #lrnchat
Lol #lrnchat
05:45:07 pm dbhasin: RT @arossett: q4] letting go– judiciously. I worry tht we throw our hands up about influence at work. We must, without hyper managing #lrnchat
05:45:11 pm AndreaMay1: Q5) Learning to effectively evaluate learning. #lrnchat
05:45:13 pm PaFitzpatrick: RT @techherding: As Patrick said, beware Rapid Development. I’ve never had a client show my work and say “Of course, he did this really fast.” #lrnchat
05:45:17 pm dbhasin: RT @_Kavi: bang on ! RT @LnDDave: Q3) Most Orgs respect the program, but do not realize what it took to build it. #lrnchat
05:45:22 pm dbhasin: RT @lesleywprice: RT @ReubenTozman: Have a great #lrnchat. My final thought: for train depts to be relevant they need to cease being a training dept #lrnchat
05:45:26 pm sue_freeman1: #lrnchat We need to be fearless. Listen, find new, good stuff and move forward. Not as easy as it sounds.
05:45:31 pm maranca: Great though! RT @LnDDave: Q5) Eliminate the word ‘Training’ from your vocabulary. Language is powerful and can shift perspectives. #lrnchat
05:45:33 pm professorjosh: Q2) Training dept should be the coordinators of training but use your resources as a company to train – empower the peeps involved! #lrnchat
05:45:37 pm dbhasin: RT @LnDDave: Q1) Training Dept influence is largely determined by the learning culture you are able to build within the org. #lrnchat
05:45:47 pm dbhasin: RT @stipton: My fav topic RT @lrnchat: Todays #lrnchat theme: Make Training Department Relevant. Join us at 11:30am ET/4:30pm BT or 8:30pm ET. #lrnchat
05:45:57 pm C4LPT: Q5) Observe how the “smart workers” in your org are already using the techs to support their own learning/performance #lrnchat
05:45:59 pm dbhasin: RT @pgsimoes: Best of EDEN 2010 Special Issue European Journal of #Open, Distance and #ELearning http://t.co/NABZFu7I #edtech #edchat #lrnchat #eadsunday
05:46:05 pm JD_Dillon: Q5) Do what is right for the learner regardless of other influences. #lrnchat
05:46:13 pm dbhasin: RT @marciamarcia: RT @lrnchat: If internal motivations are required for lasting change, why do educators & leader keep focusing on external ones? #lrnchat
05:46:13 pm _Kavi: Q5) What can be done, can be. What cant be, cant be. Dont promiese teh moon. You are not God ! #lrnchat
05:46:15 pm dbhasin: RT @marciamarcia: RT @Dave_Ferguson: [Kudos} originally referred to fame or glory, especially in battle... #lrnchat
05:46:22 pm dbhasin: RT @ExpertusONE: RT @lesleywprice RT @4KM: Friend once said "There is no end to what you can accomplish if you dont care who gets the credit" Like! #lrnchat
05:46:22 pm alc47: @LnDDave: Q5) Eliminate the word Training from your vocabulary. Language is powerful and can shift perspectives. #lrnchat
05:46:33 pm dbhasin: RT @lrnchat: Q2) What motivates you to learn something new? What could motivate you to change something you're resistant to changing? #lrnchat
05:46:41 pm PaFitzpatrick: Q5) Evaluate the impact of learning - if you get it wrong change it - if you get it right enhance it #lrnchat
05:46:47 pm dbhasin: RT @olliegardener: RT @chrisstjohn: RT @ebase: #Lrnchat recognition is public and reward is private. Give me recognition over reward any day #lrnchat
05:46:57 pm dbhasin: RT @megbertapelle: RT @ckagy: #lrnchat recognition = admiration, awareness. reward = receiving something tangible << Reward can be intangible too #lrnchat
05:46:59 pm 4KM: A5) Determine [few] places where training is needed. Put much more focus on learning #lrnchat
05:47:03 pm C4LPT: Q5) Stop talking about “learners” but refer them as people or workers – then u wll begin to think differently #lrnchat
05:47:03 pm HollyJustice1: We all like good stories! RT @_Kavi @urbie: #lrnchat Q5) … capturing stories from the trenches & making learning experiences from them
05:47:12 pm _Kavi: RT @C4LPT: Q5) Stop talking about “learners” but refer them as people or workers – then u wll begin to think differently #lrnchat
05:47:13 pm LnDDave: Q5) Relevance requires an awareness of what’s going on around you. Participate in communities to stay up to date. #lrnchat
05:47:32 pm professorjosh: Evaluation & Redesign is important! RT @andreamay1: Q5) Learning to effectively evaluate learning. #lrnchat
05:48:05 pm _Kavi: Q5) learning is fun. And fun is infectious. Keep it that way. #lrnchat
05:48:06 pm techherding: Q5) Validate your plans, content and output with the learners. Impressing your client is nice, but if learners like it, you win. #lrnchat
05:48:07 pm glennojr: RT @C4LPT: Q5) Stop talking about “learners” but refer them as people or workers – then u wll begin to think differently #lrnchat
05:48:38 pm 4KM: A5) Don’t think “staying relevant.” Think big attitude shift; treat as major, mulit-pronged change initiative #lrnchat
05:48:43 pm olliegardener: q5) recognise the unpredictability of business. Don’t expect to keep up – your job is to enable others 2 do so! #lrnchat
05:48:46 pm professorjosh: Sometimes you don’t need to reinvent the wheel but other times you need to make the wheel from scratch #lrnchat
05:49:03 pm C4LPT: Q5) I’m still hearing too many training focused response to this Q here – need to think outside of training #lrnchat
05:49:06 pm chrismaclaren: Q5) Recognize that it is all about helping people work smarter (stolen from @C4LPT and ITA!). Makes everything much simpler. #lrnchat
05:49:08 pm ajeanne: RT @professorjosh: Sometimes you don’t need to reinvent the wheel but other times you need to make the wheel from scratch #lrnchat
05:49:15 pm _Kavi: Q5) One size fits one. Period. #lrnchat
05:49:34 pm 4KM: @C4LPT Not from me
Quite agree with you. #lrnchat
05:49:37 pm olliegardener: RT @_Kavi: Q5) One size fits one. Period. #lrnchat
05:49:58 pm simbeckhampson: RT @LnDDave: Q5) Eliminate the word ‘Training’ from your vocabulary. Language is powerful and can shift perspectives. #lrnchat
05:50:00 pm C4LPT: @4KM
#lrnchat
05:50:07 pm lttlewys: RT @4km: A5) Don’t think “staying relevant.” Think big attitude shift; treat as major, mulit-pronged change initiative #lrnchat
05:50:09 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome. #lrnchat
05:50:15 pm professorjosh: Empower others in the organization to teach something, best way to master something & use your internal resources #lrnchat
05:50:26 pm C4LPT: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome. #lrnchat
05:50:27 pm 4KM: Saw a huge list of “all learning hashtags” somewhere the other day. HUGE focus on training and formal learning #lrnchat
05:50:33 pm _Kavi: RT @professorjosh: Empower others in the organization to teach something, best way to master something & use your internal resources #lrnchat
05:50:33 pm lesleywprice: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome. #lrnchat
05:50:56 pm chrismaclaren: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links, requests & shameless plugs welcome. #lrnchat
05:51:23 pm glennojr: RT @kelly_smith01: How many of us were with the same organization as 5 yrs ago – Does that organization (or even industry) still exist? #lrnchat
05:51:23 pm AndreaMay1: Qwrap) Andrea May in Minneapolis. VP Instr. Design Services @dashethomson Visit the Social learning blog http://www.dashe.com/blog #lrnchat
05:51:28 pm alc47: RT @olliegardener: q5) recognise the unpredictability of business. Dont expect to keep up – your job is to enable others 2 do so! #lrnchat
05:51:31 pm glennojr: RT @C4LPT: RT @StephenCHudson: q1) social media (lrng) and collab platforms (sharepoint) have democratized learning. I see influence waining #lrnchat
05:51:32 pm dbhasin: RT @ajeanne: RT @professorjosh: Sometimes you don’t need to reinvent the wheel but other times you need to make the wheel from scratch #lrnchat
05:51:35 pm dbhasin: RT @chrismaclaren: Q5) Recognize that it is all about helping people work smarter (stolen from @C4LPT and ITA!). Makes everything much simpler. #lrnchat
05:51:36 pm glennojr: RT @C4LPT: Q1) They probably like to think they do; but the reality is more and more pple are working around them #lrnchat
05:51:38 pm simbeckhampson: RT @professorjosh: Empower others in the organization to teach something, best way to master something & use your internal resources #lrnchat
05:51:40 pm amirelion: Amir Elion. Director of Learning Solutions at @kineoisrael please join Herbew #lrnisr next session on Nov. 8 #lrnchat
05:51:40 pm C4LPT: Qwrap) Jane Hart still in SoCal See my emerging bk NEW Workplace Learning:How to help individuals work smarter http://t.co/kJ04fg3K #lrnchat
05:51:42 pm dbhasin: RT @_Kavi: Q5) learning is fun. And fun is infectious. Keep it that way. #lrnchat
05:51:50 pm dbhasin: RT @4KM: A5) Don’t think “staying relevant.” Think big attitude shift; treat as major, mulit-pronged change initiative #lrnchat
05:51:56 pm dbhasin: RT @olliegardener: q5) recognise the unpredictability of business. Don’t expect to keep up – your job is to enable others 2 do so! #lrnchat
05:51:56 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q5 training depts can stay relevant by getting that customers are usually in dark about how/what they do (and who does what)
05:51:58 pm PaFitzpatrick: QWrap) Patrick Fitzpatrick MD @PTKLearning eLearning Innovators from Sheffield UK: Please follow @PaFitzpatrick and @PTKLearning #lrnchat
05:52:00 pm lesleywprice: qwrap) Lesley Price…interested in any evidence of really effective implementation…I’m keen to learn
#lrnchat
05:52:02 pm dbhasin: RT @C4LPT: Q5) I’m still hearing too many training focused response to this Q here – need to think outside of training #lrnchat
05:52:06 pm professorjosh: Josh – Valencia College – Instructional Designer, Professor, & Blogger http://t.co/wBF4nLi3 Excite, Engage, Educate! #lrnchat
05:52:12 pm dbhasin: RT @4KM: A5) Determine [few] places where training is needed. Put much more focus on learning #lrnchat
05:52:13 pm 4KM: Qwrap: belated hello. Alice MacGillivray: Among other things, I love to create deliberately under-designed learning environments #lrnchat
05:52:13 pm LnDDave: QWrap) David Kelly, from NYC. Thanks for another great #lrnchat!
05:52:16 pm dbhasin: RT @PaFitzpatrick: Q5) Evaluate the impact of learning – if you get it wrong change it – if you get it right enhance it #lrnchat
05:52:20 pm MMaryMcKenna: @billcush @Mindflash Good blog Bill, I’ve posted up a comment on there #lrnchat (@LearningPool) #lms #elearning
05:52:23 pm dbhasin: RT @alc47: @LnDDave: Q5) Eliminate the word Training from your vocabulary. Language is powerful and can shift perspectives. #lrnchat
05:52:30 pm dbhasin: RT @_Kavi: Q5) What can be done, can be. What cant be, cant be. Dont promiese teh moon. You are not God ! #lrnchat
05:52:32 pm dbhasin: RT @JD_Dillon: Q5) Do what is right for the learner regardless of other influences. #lrnchat
05:52:37 pm JD_Dillon: Qwrap) Great sharing today in #lrnchat! Keep the discussion going 24/7 and remember that learning is the only path to change! @JD_Dillon
05:52:43 pm dbhasin: RT @4KM: A5) Consider severing ties btwn standard HR functions and learning functions. Attach latter to org executive #lrnchat
05:52:49 pm amirelion: Qwrap) my blog (mostly Hebrew) – http://t.co/r4DICDbw #lrnchat
05:52:54 pm dbhasin: RT @C4LPT: RT @alc47: Q5 Lock the office-get out into the business and learn what it is about – then look to see what can be done to help #lrnchat
05:52:58 pm dbhasin: RT @maranca: Q5) How can training departments stay relevant? #lrnchat – they can become a learner again…
05:53:35 pm chrismaclaren: Chris Maclaren – looking to provide presentation design support – from slide design to storytelling. Shout to find out more!! #lrnchat
05:53:44 pm urbie: #lrnchat qwrap urbie delgado, instructional/learning experience designer & storyteller late of New Mexico .. http://t.co/kUCk7xGL
05:53:46 pm dbhasin: RT @JD_Dillon: Qwrap) Great sharing today in #lrnchat! Keep the discussion going 24/7 and remember that learning is the only path to change! @JD_Dillon
05:53:47 pm alc47: Qwrap. Nic Laycock – heavily into what makes virtual communities places wher people wnat to be and learn http://t.co/LGsk4xTN #lrnchat
05:53:54 pm lesleywprice: qwrap) tks for another great session tweeps…really enjoyed it…in the words of ‘Poirot’ keeps the old grey cells active
#lrnchat
05:53:55 pm dbhasin: RT @MMaryMcKenna: @billcush @Mindflash Good blog Bill, I’ve posted up a comment on there #lrnchat (@LearningPool) #lms #elearning
05:53:56 pm techherding: Dick Carlson — SC PugDaddy, E-Learning Designer and Sage — I’ve been thrown out of MUCH nicer places than this! #lrnchat
05:54:05 pm dbhasin: RT @chrismaclaren: Chris Maclaren – looking to provide presentation design support – from slide design to storytelling. Shout to find out more!! #lrnchat
05:54:17 pm dbhasin: RT @4KM: Qwrap: belated hello. Alice MacGillivray: Among other things, I love to create deliberately under-designed learning environments #lrnchat
05:54:21 pm dbhasin: RT @professorjosh: Josh – Valencia College – Instructional Designer, Professor, & Blogger http://t.co/wBF4nLi3 Excite, Engage, Educate! #lrnchat
05:54:28 pm dbhasin: RT @LnDDave: QWrap) David Kelly, from NYC. Thanks for another great #lrnchat!
05:54:30 pm chrismaclaren: Thank you all for sharing your thoughts, ideas and experiences!! #lrnchat
05:54:34 pm dbhasin: RT @lesleywprice: qwrap) Lesley Price…interested in any evidence of really effective implementation…I’m keen to learn
#lrnchat
05:54:43 pm dbhasin: RT @4KM: Saw a huge list of “all learning hashtags” somewhere the other day. HUGE focus on training and formal learning #lrnchat
05:54:48 pm dbhasin: RT @AndreaMay1: Qwrap) Andrea May in Minneapolis. VP Instr. Design Services @dashethomson Visit the Social learning blog http://www.dashe.com/blog #lrnchat
05:54:53 pm dbhasin: RT @professorjosh: Empower others in the organization to teach something, best way to master something & use your internal resources #lrnchat
05:54:56 pm olliegardener: Qwrap) Ollie Gardener. Entrepreneur & co-founder of NoddlePod. Seen our brand new concept cartoon? http://t.co/RJqyeDM5
#lrnchat
05:55:00 pm dbhasin: RT @lttlewys: RT @4km: A5) Don’t think “staying relevant.” Think big attitude shift; treat as major, mulit-pronged change initiative #lrnchat
05:55:15 pm dbhasin: RT @chrismaclaren: Thank you all for sharing your thoughts, ideas and experiences!! #lrnchat
05:55:18 pm dbhasin: RT @lesleywprice: qwrap) tks for another great session tweeps…really enjoyed it…in the words of ‘Poirot’ keeps the old grey cells active
#lrnchat
05:55:20 pm amirelion: QWrap – Enjoyed today chat. All that want a free copy of my 100 Creative Presetation Ideas e-book plz. contact me #lrnchat
05:55:41 pm _Kavi: QWrap) Kavi, Mumbai. Head L&D. Having fun changing a few things, putting in place a few others & persisting with the rest #lrnchat
05:56:18 pm _Kavi: QWrap) Awesome chat today ! Has left me thinking !! Thank you for all teh wonderful exchanges on #lrnchat
05:57:05 pm lindseyb16: #lrnchat important for 1:1 instructor interaction as any participation is difficult for the risk averse learner http://t.co/EBqalEL6
05:57:09 pm alc47: @dbhasin Thought they were “little” grey cells – off now to eat some fish! #lrnchat
05:57:39 pm PaFitzpatrick: good #lrnchat this week – until next time
05:58:05 pm maranca: Me …RT@amirelion:QWrap Enjoyed today chat. All that want a free copy of my 100 Creative Presentation Ideas e-book plz. contact me #lrnchat
05:58:19 pm AndreaMay1: Thanks for another awesome #lrnchat! Have a great week ![]()
05:58:36 pm HollyJustice1: Goodbye to #lrnchat from Holly in Portland OR Connecting others to knowledge is my passion. Job hunting and tackling new challenges daily!
05:58:48 pm amirelion: @maranca Will send #lrnchat
05:59:05 pm ebase: RT @olliegardener: Qwrap) Ollie Gardener. Entrepreneur & co-founder of NoddlePod. Seen our brand new concept cartoon? http://t.co/RJqyeDM5
#lrnchat
05:59:11 pm Tracy_Parish: RT @kelly_smith01: RT @tmiket: How to create a memorable mini-scenario #articulate #lrnchat http://t.co/B0g8R83f
05:59:12 pm lrnchat: Thanks for joining #lrnchat. We’ll post the transcript on http://t.co/O8x38OGR See you again next Thursday.
05:59:22 pm maranca: QWrap) Great chat today ! 1st time I’ve been able to participate Thank you all! #lrnchat
06:00:12 pm ISD20: Tx 4 RT @medikly: Interesting! RT @isd20: What Facebook is teaching us about social LMS http://t.co/cbRjG7lD #lrnchat #sociallearning
06:00:12 pm _Kavi: @olliegardener @HollyJustice1 @alc47 @chrismaclaren @4KM @JffZllr @gerdriesen @lesleywprice Thanks to wonderful fellow learners ! #lrnchat
06:00:52 pm Spongelab: In bubble-rafting snails, the eggs came first http://t.co/r9bZZ1VK #edtech #edchat #lrnchat #scichat #gbl
06:01:13 pm _Kavi: @lesleywprice @TekaraInc @ThePrezenter @tracydg1 Thanks for the wonderful RTs and partnering in the learning !! #lrnchat
06:02:51 pm maranca: Qwrap- MaryAnne – currently job hunting worldwide- Love challenges of starting from scratch! Thx for the learning today! #lrnchat
06:03:09 pm OpenSesameNow: @lesleywprice Another Poirot enthusiast!! I have literally read every Poirot novel. Delicious mysteries! #lrnchat
06:03:20 pm 4KM: @dbhasin Thank you for connecting through your #lrnchat RTs today; always interesting to see what you find valuable.
06:04:58 pm kkapp: Games Influencing Politics: Herman Cain 999 Plan: Did It Come From SimCity? http://t.co/6MkXf3Ot #games #simulations #lrnchat #astd #edchat