Transcript 4 Oct 2012 Motivation and Engagement

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08:30:48 pm lrnchat: Hello everyone and welcome to #lrnchat. How have you been?
08:31:20 pm lrnchat: Please introduce yourself. Name, specialties, interests, etc.? #lrnchat
08:32:55 pm gabriellabroady: Hey #lrnchat Gabriella Broady here, still defrosting from son’s baseball game in MN – holy wind, Batman! Specialties: global learning
08:32:57 pm ThomasStone: RT @lrnchat: Join us at 8:30PM EST for #lrnchat. Tonight’s Topic: “Engagement and motivation in learning”.
08:33:04 pm trainersleaders: q0) I’m Paul Signorelli, a San Francisco-based writer-trainer-consultant active in #astd & other groups #lrnchat
08:33:21 pm lrnchat: Q0. We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:33:29 pm theASIDEblog: TheASIDEblog here, love using design in teaching and learning. #lrnchat
08:33:47 pm davidbell02: RT @lrnchat: Please introduce yourself. Name, specialties, interests, etc.? #lrnchat
08:34:33 pm theASIDEblog: Learned today it’s worth taking a risk to put your ideas out there. You never know what doors will open. #lrnchat
08:35:00 pm reubentozman: Hey. Reuben Tozman CLO edCetra in Toronto. How goes with youze? #Lrnchat
08:35:04 pm trainersleaders: q0) Learned (again) today that Google+ Hangouts continues to be a great teaching-training-learning tool in social learning #lrnchat
08:35:16 pm gabriellabroady: a0)learned that helping 9th grader understand prez debate for civics homework last night – not so easy. #lrnchat
08:35:19 pm davidbell02: Hello, David Bell, Houston, sales development and training, enjoy hiking, cycling and learning… #lrnchat
08:35:40 pm RioPDX: Rio from CDI Corporation, learning strategist. Today I learned that “not knowing your audience” is a systematic problem :-( #lrnchat
08:35:52 pm SeanPutman1: Hey Sean Putman from outside Detroit. #lrnchat
08:36:10 pm kelly_smith01: Q0) Kely smith Project Coordinator Plano, Texas #lrnchat
08:36:48 pm ThomasStone: .@gabriellabroady Hi there! I hope you are doing well. Good to see you on #lrnchat
08:37:05 pm petescottwalton: Hey all! Pete from San Francisco – I learned sometimes it’s better to take to action than to wait #lrnchat
08:37:18 pm reubentozman: Learned that @krisrockwell and his co. do great stuff on #thetoolbar last night. #Lrnchat
08:37:38 pm reubentozman: @RioPDX I used to work for CDI #Lrnchat
08:37:48 pm SeanPutman1: Q0)This week I start to learn the fundamentals of programming #lrnchat
08:38:04 pm ThomasStone: Tom Stone, from Rochester, NY. Now in my third week with Dale Carnegie Digital. Hello fellow #lrnchat folks!
08:38:23 pm lrnchat: Q1) When have you been motivated to learn? Why were you motivated? #lrnchat
08:38:40 pm reubentozman: So Math? RT @SeanPutman1: Q0)This week I start to learn the fundamentals of programming #Lrnchat
08:38:44 pm gabriellabroady: @ThomasStone hey Tom! Nice to hear from you – how goes it? I love #lrnchat, just always @ boys sports in evenings…
08:38:44 pm ThomasStone: This week I learned that the latest in office phone technology, coupled with a web portal backend, can do impressive things. #lrnchat
08:38:55 pm edCetraT: RT @lrnchat: Q1) When have you been motivated to learn? Why were you motivated? #lrnchat
08:38:58 pm davidbell02: Q0) I learned today that it’s not as much fun to learn when the only one make a point is the facilitator. #lrnchat
08:39:12 pm Quinnovator: a bit late to the 90 min memestream extravaganza that is #lrnchat (duck or join) welcome to new and returning participants!
08:39:21 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q1) When have you been motivated to learn? Why were you motivated? #lrnchat
08:39:26 pm SeanPutman1: @reubentozman Yup that is where they started #lrnchat
08:39:34 pm SeanPutman1: RT @lrnchat: Q1) When have you been motivated to learn? Why were you motivated? #lrnchat
08:39:36 pm kylemackie: Q1) The best motivation to learn is fear (and no, I’m not kidding) #lrnchat
08:39:50 pm JimLundy: RT @Quinnovator: RT @Quinnovator: a bit late to the 90 min memestream extravaganza that is #lrnchat (duck or join) welcome to new and returning participants!
08:39:58 pm SeanPutman1: Q1) Motivated to learn everyday, if your not getting better you are falling behind #lrnchat
08:40:03 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @SeanPutman1: RT @lrnchat: Q1) When have you been motivated to learn? Why were you motivated? #lrnchat
08:40:06 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, learning experience system architect, consultant/author/speaker, genial malcontent, Walnut Creek CA #lrnchat
08:40:22 pm RioPDX: @reubentozman nice to meet you! We’ll have to exchange stories :-) #lrnchat
08:40:26 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: RT @Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q1) When have you been motivated to learn? Why were you motivated? #lrnchat
08:40:27 pm edCetraT: q1)Motivated to learn when i was passionate about something. Why? i had clear objectives. clear performances i needed to achieve #lrnchat
08:40:33 pm Quinnovator: a1) always *motivated* to learn, but more interesting things than time! #lrnchat
08:41:04 pm reubentozman: Q1) interest based….always #Lrnchat
08:41:04 pm davidbell02: RT @lrnchat: Q1) When have you been motivated to learn? Why were you motivated? #lrnchat
08:41:05 pm eLearninCyclops: Jeff Goldman – eLearning Designer in Baltimore – Joining a bit late #lrnchat
08:41:05 pm trainersleaders: q1) I’ve been motivated to learn when I realize I’m falling behind…which also seems true for @SeanPutman1; nice to have company #lrnchat
08:41:13 pm Quinnovator: a1) motivated when directly relevant to problem I’m trying to solve/task trying to accomplish… #lrnchat
08:41:14 pm RioPDX: RT @lrnchat: Q1) When have you been motivated to learn? Why were you motivated? #lrnchat
08:41:24 pm reubentozman: @RioPDX I was out of MTL but served eastern canada #Lrnchat
08:41:29 pm KirkBoller: The best motivation to learn is when it’s something you’re interested in AND learning it will help your company. That never misses. #lrnchat
08:41:36 pm gabriellabroady: q1) when I want to try something-travel to a new place, design learning in new medium, I love to learn & I’m nosy-always motivated #lrnchat
08:41:37 pm Quinnovator: a1) motivated to learn when I recognize it’s a persistent situation where the knowledge will make that pain go away #lrnchat
08:42:00 pm theASIDEblog: Listening to TEDxNYED talks inside on a beautiful Sat. in spring & having know idea of time and wanting more. That’s engagement. #lrnchat
08:42:04 pm Quinnovator: a1) when I’m *curious* about it #lrnchat
08:42:04 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: RT @Quinnovator: a1) motivated when directly relevant to problem I’m trying to solve/task trying to accomplish… #lrnchat
08:42:04 pm edCetraT: Q1) Classic example. Sports. you’re motivated to learn a new technique or strategy in the game so you can better perform. #lrnchat
08:42:11 pm reubentozman: Is that personal experience? RT @kylemackie: Q1) The best motivation to learn is fear (and no, Im not kidding) #Lrnchat
08:42:13 pm davidbell02: Q1) That why I’m here tonight. #lrnchat
08:42:35 pm Quinnovator: a1) when I want to understand #lrnchat
08:42:40 pm RioPDX: A1) learning is like rowing upstream; not to advance is to fall back -Chinese proverb. Always motivated #lrnchat
08:42:45 pm reubentozman: RT @Quinnovator: a1) when Im *curious* about it>>>>yeah #Lrnchat
08:42:57 pm trainersleaders: RT @KirkBoller: Best motivation to learn is when its something youre interested in & learning it helps your company…never misses #lrnchat
08:42:59 pm reubentozman: RT @Quinnovator: a1) motivated to learn when I recognize its a persistent situation where the knowledge will make that pain go away #Lrnchat
08:43:04 pm eLearninCyclops: Q1) Been motivated to learn when it meant my work/life will be a bit easier #lrnchat
08:43:11 pm petescottwalton: a1: sounds strange but I learned that focusing on learning itself is important in everything you do. #lrnchat
08:43:15 pm Quinnovator: RT @eLearninCyclops: Q1) Been motivated to learn when it meant my work/life will be a bit easier #lrnchat
08:43:18 pm BenjaminHarwood: @kylemackie Terrified to admit this may not be entirely inaccurate in many but not all cases. #lrnchat
08:43:28 pm SeanPutman1: RT @Quinnovator: a1) motivated to learn when I recognize its a persistent situation where the knowledge will make that pain go away #lrnchat
08:43:30 pm ryantracey: Q1) I’m motivated to learn when I want to do something for myself (and not rely on others). #lrnchat
08:43:36 pm Quinnovator: RT @petescottwalton: a1: learned that focusing on learning itself is important in everything you do. #lrnchat < metalearning FTW
08:43:40 pm kelly_smith01: When you create your personal curriculum which aligns with your anticipated performance requirements.#lrnchat
08:43:41 pm Quinnovator: RT @ryantracey: Q1) I’m motivated to learn when I want to do something for myself (and not rely on others). #lrnchat
08:43:45 pm SeanPutman1: RT @eLearninCyclops: Q1) Been motivated to learn when it meant my work/life will be a bit easier #lrnchat
08:43:51 pm reubentozman: Q1) to get ahead… #Lrnchat
08:43:54 pm theASIDEblog: Walking out of a keynote address by Diane Ravitch so pumped to change attitudes toward learning, teaching and testing. #lrnchat
08:44:03 pm Quinnovator: RT @reubentozman: Q1) to get ahead… #Lrnchat < in many ways!
08:44:06 pm KirkBoller: @petescottwalton Exactly. That is it! #lrnchat
08:44:26 pm kylemackie: @reubentozman @BenjaminHarwood not saying it’s always effective, but it does get the job done #lrnchat
08:44:50 pm trainersleaders: Ditto! RT @Quinnovator: a1) I’m motivated to learn when I’m *curious* about it…& want to understand #lrnchat
08:45:13 pm hjarche: In the Summer of 1978 I was very motivated to learn how to speak French when I met a young lady who could not speak English :) #lrnchat
08:45:20 pm ryantracey: @kylemackie Fear is a motivator, no question. But is it an *effective* motivator? #lrnchat
08:45:39 pm reubentozman: RT @edCetraT: Q1) Sports. youre motivated to learn a new technique or strategy in the game so you can better perform. #Lrnchat
08:45:41 pm davidbell02: Q1) I learn when I realize that I don’t have the ability to perform to the best of my ability. #lrnchat
08:45:47 pm Quinnovator: RT @hjarche: was very motivated to learn how to speak French when I met a young lady who could not speak English :) #lrnchat
08:45:48 pm kylemackie: @BenjaminHarwood @reubentozman e.g., how can i get out of this pit of villianous fairies alive? (cc: @DrGarcia) #lrnchat
08:46:04 pm Quinnovator: RT @davidbell02: Q1) I learn when I realize that I don’t have the ability to perform to the best of my ability. #lrnchat
08:46:36 pm SeanPutman1: RT @davidbell02: Q1) I learn when I realize that I dont have the ability to perform to the best of my ability. #lrnchat
08:46:40 pm SenseMakey: @ryantracey @kylemackie I think fear is sort of like cold temperatures – perks you up at first, sedates you after a while #lrnchat #lrnchat
08:46:44 pm kylemackie: @ryantracey the question wasn’t about effectiveness, was it? #lrnchat
08:46:53 pm theASIDEblog: We feel motivated when learning is transformative; we connect with something that grabs our attention and can’t let go. #lrnchat
08:46:56 pm reubentozman: @kylemackie But is it the “best” motivation? I agree it’s one of those factors. Not sure it’s the best motivation #Lrnchat
08:47:09 pm gabriellabroady: q1)motivated when I can help do “old things” in “new ways” – or help educate “resistors” to change #lrnchat
08:47:20 pm trainersleaders: q1) I’m also motivated to learn when I see that learning, work, & play are seamlessly interwoven #lrnchat
08:47:32 pm ThomasStone: Q1) Motivated to learn? When I have a deadline. When I am embarrassed by my ignorance or lack of skill. When I am curious. #lrnchat
08:47:36 pm kylemackie: @reubentozman the question was what motivates. fear is an awfully effective motivator #Lrnchat
08:47:39 pm ryantracey: @kylemackie No, I’m just extending the conversation ;0) #lrnchat
08:47:40 pm petescottwalton: @hjarche what better motivation is there? ;) #lrnchat
08:47:43 pm ActivateLearn: Hello everyone. Just joining in now (had to finish dreaded Powerpoint slides). Hope I haven’t missed much? #lrnchat
08:47:59 pm hjarche: @ryantracey guilt is much more effective than fear #lrnchat @kylemackie
08:48:08 pm edCetraT: q1) sometimes.. you just motivate yourself to learn because you just have to #lrnchat
08:48:09 pm JaneBozarth: Sorry I’m missing #lrnchat http://t.co/nw0UzIIC
08:48:23 pm lrnchat: Q2) Let’s flip that: When have you NOT been motivated to learn? Why were you NOT motivated? #lrnchat
08:48:23 pm BenjaminHarwood: @kylemackie Learned Russian rote translation style 20yrs ago..on the-spot drill translations. Learned accusative case fast! :-) #lrnchat
08:48:26 pm ThomasStone: Q1) When I can gain efficiency, which either means more work can get done or more leisure time. #lrnchat
08:48:37 pm kylemackie: @ryantracey @reubentozman @SenseMakey @BenjaminHarwood we shouldn’t ignore our natural instincts #lrnchat
08:48:37 pm ryantracey: RT @SenseMakey I think fear is sort of like cold temperatures – perks you up at first, sedates you after a while #lrnchat #lrnchat
08:48:50 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Lets flip that: When have you NOT been motivated to learn? Why were you NOT motivated? #lrnchat
08:49:13 pm SeanPutman1: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Lets flip that: When have you NOT been motivated to learn? Why were you NOT motivated? #lrnchat
08:49:34 pm odguru: Also just joining. Helping make a H’ween costume. A ninja assassin honey badger, to be exact. Hi all. #lrnchat
08:49:39 pm reubentozman: @kylemackie I think my point of contention was your claim that “fear is the best motivator”. I know what the question was. #Lrnchat
08:49:49 pm eLearninCyclops: Q2) Not motivated when told to learn and do something “just because” by a boss. #lrnchat
08:49:50 pm ActivateLearn: Q1) I’m motivated to learn if there’s something that will help me further in my life or career or simply, I want to! #lrnchat
08:49:57 pm KirkBoller: Learning = Opportunity to improve self and society overall. What happens if opportunity to learn increases across all sectors? #lrnchat
08:50:03 pm davidbell02: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Lets flip that: When have you NOT been motivated to learn? Why were you NOT motivated? #lrnchat
08:50:03 pm edCetraT: Q2) when you just need that extra credit to get your degree #lrnchat
08:50:05 pm SenseMakey: A2) disinterest, poor mood (feeling blah), no ownership of my own learning, not learning what I really want to (disinterest) #lrnchat
08:50:12 pm SeanPutman1: Q2)Most times I am unmotivated when forced to learn. Learn enough to get by or to “check” the box #lrnchat
08:50:20 pm gabriellabroady: q2) compliance training. nuff said #lrnchat
08:50:23 pm ryantracey: @hjarche Yes, I’d agree. #lrnchat
08:50:27 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Let’s flip that: When have you NOT been motivated to learn? Why were you NOT motivated? #lrnchat
08:50:39 pm reubentozman: Q2) when I was afraid so I walked away bwahahaha #Lrnchat
08:50:42 pm AriAvivi: #lrnchat Ari Avivi, acting director learning and development Saskatoon sk canada hello all
08:50:46 pm ThomasStone: Q2) Not motivated to learn? When tired or not feeling well. When no WIIFM is apparent. When the “current way” is “good enough” #lrnchat
08:50:51 pm odguru: @eLearninCyclops I find I physically cannot learn in a “made to for no good reason”. Too hijacked. #lrnchat
08:51:09 pm KirkBoller: NOT motivated when end result is a grade that means nothing. Memorizing stuff temporarily to get an A for example. #lrnchat
08:51:11 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @gabriellabroady: q2) compliance training. nuff said #lrnchat
08:51:17 pm ActivateLearn: Q2) When I’m told I HAVE to – when someone else controls my time; my learning; or what they think I need. I need autonomy. #lrnchat
08:51:23 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Let’s flip that: When have you NOT been motivated to learn? Why were you NOT motivated? #lrnchat
08:51:23 pm AriAvivi: #lrnchat Q1&Q@ motivation= wiifm n wiifm, no motivation
08:51:25 pm ActivateLearn: RT @lrnchat: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Let’s flip that: When have you NOT been motivated to learn? Why were you NOT motivated? #lrnchat
08:51:38 pm trainersleaders: q2) Was not motivated to learn when lessons were a) forced on me, b) had no interest/applicability, & c) were painfully uninspired #lrnchat
08:51:39 pm JaneBozarth: A2) nothing unmotivates me more than “mandatory” #lrnchat
08:51:41 pm kelly_smith01: When it is required. When it is scheduled for a specific time/place. #lrnchat
08:51:42 pm petescottwalton: I’m not motivated to learn if I feel it’s a waste of time – in the sense I could prioritize what I do spend my time learning better #lrnchat
08:51:47 pm SenseMakey: A2) My own inability to connect with the topic and get interested by finding its relevance to me. #lrnchat
08:52:01 pm ActivateLearn: RT @gabriellabroady: RT @gabriellabroady: q2) compliance training. nuff said #lrnchat
08:52:02 pm Quinnovator: a2) when someone else is telling me that I have to learn it #lrnchat
08:52:17 pm Quinnovator: RT @SenseMakey: A2) My own inability to connect with the topic and get interested by finding its relevance to me. #lrnchat
08:52:20 pm MadScientst: #lrnchat Q1 army airborne school – motivated to not get dropped from course or go SPLAT! airborne!
08:52:25 pm theASIDEblog: Motivation dies with worksheet learning. #lrnchat #edchat http://t.co/kEsyMNHH
08:52:32 pm AriAvivi: #lrnchat wiifm is defined by internal motivators. Cash? prestige? power? fear?
08:52:37 pm ActivateLearn: RT @Quinnovator: RT @Quinnovator: a2) when someone else is telling me that I have to learn it #lrnchat
08:52:46 pm gabriellabroady: q2)not motivated in uncomfortable learning space (think rows of computers in classroom or cubicle)…#lrnchat
08:52:51 pm eLearninCyclops: Q2) Not motivated when there r better ways to learn it. (e.g., send me to a 2-day workshop when I can learn it online in 1) #lrnchat
08:52:57 pm reubentozman: Q2) when I feel I won’t overcome. Challenge is too great for my current skill set #Lrnchat
08:53:01 pm petescottwalton: @odguru Wow, I don’t recall such an awesome yet lethal costume before #lrnchat
08:53:10 pm Quinnovator: a1) when the relevance, the WIIFM, isn’t there #lrnchat
08:53:12 pm BenjaminHarwood: @kylemackie @reubentozman Learning to overcome fear is the greatest motivator. “Indeed, “we’ve nothing to fear but fear itself” #lrnchat
08:53:23 pm ActivateLearn: Q2) I think everyone’s answers to Q2 all relate to mandatory and compliance training – every.single.one.of.them #lrnchat
08:53:28 pm davidbell02: Q2) I’m not motivated to learn when there is no WIIFM. #lrnchat
08:53:29 pm SenseMakey: @janebozarth @quinnovator interesting that everyone is so anti-mandatory. I usually try to find a way to be interested… #lrnchat
08:53:41 pm theASIDEblog: Lack of choice zaps any motivation to learn. #lrnchat
08:53:41 pm kylemackie: @reubentozman if you are fearing for your life and need to learn something to survive, you definitely will be motivated #Lrnchat
08:53:43 pm Quinnovator: a2) when I’m really anxious, don’t see the relevance, don’t have confidence #lrnchat
08:54:06 pm KirkBoller: At @blpindy we assume motivation to learn there if there is passion for subject for employee and it relates to strategic direction. #lrnchat
08:54:13 pm odguru: @petescottwalton LOL. Not exactly an obvious choice is it? Going ut with a buddy.. a zombie unicorn with rabies. #lrnchat
08:54:34 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) When they promote the certificate of completion at the end of the learning. Wow a certificate. #lrnchat
08:54:39 pm gabriellabroady: RT @theASIDEblog: RT @theASIDEblog: Lack of choice zaps any motivation to learn. #lrnchat
08:54:43 pm SenseMakey: A2) if I’m feeling overwhelmed with information and to-do’s… which is fairly often! #lrnchat
08:54:49 pm eLearninCyclops: Q2) Not very motivated when there is no challenge in learning it. #lrnchat
08:54:51 pm petescottwalton: @theASIDEblog Yeah mindless work has such an immediate effect on sucking the energy out of someone #lrnchat
08:55:02 pm nlph: #lrnchat when I feel forced and don’t see the need, for sure
08:55:11 pm davidbell02: Q2) I would learn from compliance training if it was delivered in a fun and creative way. #lrnchat
08:55:18 pm AriAvivi: #lrnchat off topic… anyone going to CSTD in toronto at the end of the month?
08:55:23 pm Quinnovator: @SenseMakey if it’s mandatory, ie someone else believes it’s important, reckon they bloody well better get me to buy in #lrnchat
08:55:25 pm sparky1fan: RT @theASIDEblog: RT @theASIDEblog: Motivation dies with worksheet learning. #lrnchat #edchat http://t.co/kEsyMNHH
08:55:45 pm trainersleaders: @ActivateLearn: It would appear we can lead learners to learning spaces, but we can’t make them drink–or even inhale! #lrnchat
08:55:50 pm reubentozman: @BenjaminHarwood rhetoric….sorry. I can’t relate. There are times where Im happiest walking away instead of forcing myself #Lrnchat
08:56:04 pm RioPDX: A2) very tough to answer. But from about 4pm to 7pm it’s no learning time for me :-) silly answer, I know #lrnchat
08:56:13 pm petescottwalton: @Quinnovator agreed. those things bog me down too – especially the relevancy part #lrnchat
08:56:18 pm ActivateLearn: @kylemackie Ok, except for this.Don’t think compliance training is fearful.Only to mngrs who dont get paid if staff dont do it #lrnchat
08:56:21 pm edCetraT: @AriAvivi i’ll be there for a couple of hours (expo only) #lrnchat
08:56:24 pm Quinnovator: @SenseMakey I too recognize my epistemological role, but don’t believe it’s my obligation if *they* tell me I need it :) #lrnchat
08:56:38 pm Quinnovator: RT @reubentozman: Q2) when I feel I won’t overcome. Challenge is too great for my current skill set #Lrnchat
08:56:40 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) When I can not select the way or speed of how I learn. Not that there is always an option. #lrnchat
08:56:47 pm Fuller0727: RT @theASIDEblog: RT @theASIDEblog: Lack of choice zaps any motivation to learn. #lrnchat
08:56:53 pm kylemackie: @reubentozman if you’re “just curious” about learning something, I question your commitment. #Lrnchat
08:57:01 pm reubentozman: @kylemackie I get your point. I’m not disagreeing. Just not sure fear is the best motivator. That’s all I’m saying. #Lrnchat
08:57:16 pm novologic: Relevance is KEY @Quinnovator: a1) motivated when directly relevant to problem I’m trying to solve/task trying to accomplish #lrnchat
08:57:17 pm ActivateLearn: @trainersleaders I like that! #lrnchat
08:57:23 pm hjarche: @AriAvivi my colleague @c4lpt will be at CSTD TO #lrnchat
08:57:25 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) Compliance #lrnchat
08:57:34 pm Quinnovator: @kylemackie @reubentozman have heard that best motivators are fear, greed, and sloth ;) #Lrnchat
08:57:41 pm JaneBozarth: @SenseMakey i usually find a way to get out of it #lrnchat
08:57:43 pm gabriellabroady: q2)sometimes demotivated by having to learn templates (squish learning into pre-ordained format) #lrnchat
08:58:06 pm SeanPutman1: @reubentozman: @kylemackie If fear is my only motivator I am going to learn just enough to get by #lrnchat
08:58:12 pm odguru: @reubentozman @kylemackie fear is exhausting to maintain. People in flow also need help staying there but much more fun. #lrnchat
08:58:19 pm lrnchat: Q3) What benefits does motivation add to learning? #lrnchat
08:58:30 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What benefits does motivation add to learning? #lrnchat
08:58:35 pm teachernz: RT @theASIDEblog: RT @theASIDEblog: Lack of choice zaps any motivation to learn. #lrnchat
08:58:37 pm DanHirtEsq: Tardy to the party! Dan Hirt for #lrnchat !
08:58:43 pm SenseMakey: So if you hate mandated learning….how did you deal with college? #lrnchat
08:58:45 pm SeanPutman1: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What benefits does motivation add to learning? #lrnchat
08:58:47 pm davidbell02: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What benefits does motivation add to learning? #lrnchat
08:58:51 pm edCetraT: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What benefits does motivation add to learning? #lrnchat
08:58:53 pm DanHirtEsq: RT @lrnchat: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What benefits does motivation add to learning? #lrnchat
08:58:56 pm reubentozman: @kylemackie Seriously? Curiosity as a motivating factor doesn’t make sense to you? Guess I would’ve never built an engine then. #Lrnchat
08:59:02 pm ActivateLearn: @kylemackie @reubentozman Don’t agree with this.I was curious about MOOCs,did #gamification12 course on coursera&nearly finished it #lrnchat
08:59:04 pm Quinnovator: a3) adding emotional engagement to cognitive #lrnchat
08:59:04 pm KirkBoller: Dull, ie compliance, is demotivating. Try to add fun, game elements, to combat this. #lrnchat
08:59:15 pm eLearninCyclops: Q3) Retention #lrnchat
08:59:16 pm RioPDX: A2) when the subject does not offer value to my job or life. That really stops me on my tracks #lrnchat
08:59:18 pm edCetraT: q3) better retention and willingness to master a skill #lrnchat
08:59:36 pm ActivateLearn: @kylemackie @reubentozman I could say I was pleasantly surprised – which motivated more to actually complete it. #lrnchat
08:59:46 pm SenseMakey: a3) motivation -> better encoding and retention. The brain is more fertile for learning if in a motivated state. #lrnchat
08:59:48 pm eLearninCyclops: Q3) People r willing to take the next course too #lrnchat
08:59:51 pm reubentozman: Q3) motivation is the fuel to the process of learning. It’s everything. Trumps design anyday #Lrnchat
08:59:52 pm JaneBozarth: Re mandatory: need to control others & ‘make people’ do something is huge problem in our field #lrnchat
08:59:58 pm davidbell02: Q3) When I think motivation, I think goals. When I have goals, I do whatever it takes to achieve them…including learning. #lrnchat
09:00:06 pm ActivateLearn: RT @lrnchat: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What benefits does motivation add to learning? #lrnchat
09:00:14 pm novologic: Everything, acceptance, engagement, retention @Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What benefits does motivation add to learning? #lrnchat
09:00:14 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: Re mandatory: need to control others & ‘make people’ do something is huge problem in our field #lrnchat < verily
09:00:24 pm kelly_smith01: RT @lrnchat: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What benefits does motivation add to learning? #lrnchat
09:00:25 pm gabriellabroady: a3)openess to taking in information, #lrnchat
09:00:33 pm Quinnovator: RT @novologic: Everything, acceptance, engagement, retention RT @lrnchat: Q3) What benefits does motivation add to learning? #lrnchat
09:00:34 pm DanHirtEsq: A3) It increases retention b/c the learners see value, as long as the motivation is learning based and not chocolate bars..#lrnchat
09:00:35 pm kelly_smith01: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @JaneBozarth: Re mandatory: need to control others & ‘make people’ do something is huge problem in our field #lrnchat
09:00:37 pm SeanPutman1: RT @reubentozman: Q3) motivation is the fuel to the process of learning. Its everything. Trumps design anyday #lrnchat
09:00:40 pm AriAvivi: #lrnchat motivation in learning assists in transference and application. If they didn’t want the learning i the first place…
09:00:45 pm reubentozman: @SeanPutman1 so true #Lrnchat
09:01:04 pm gabriellabroady: q3)that whole adult learning theory thing – relevancy is accepted #lrnchat
09:01:18 pm SenseMakey: @Quinnovator @janebozarth true, I can definitely see that. I am wondering from perspective of you as a learner, not trainer. #lrnchat
09:01:40 pm KirkBoller: Motivation = Retention, interest, sharing, creative thinking. You have to find a way to make motivation the kickstarter. #lrnchat
09:01:42 pm libmou: Qs. 2 when forced to learn something boring & the instructor is not engaging. #lrnchat
09:01:46 pm davidbell02: RT @gabriellabroady: q3)that whole adult learning theory thing – relevancy is accepted #lrnchat
09:01:47 pm AriAvivi: #lrnchat mandatory learning is meant to protect against lawsuits, not promote improvement
09:01:49 pm gabriellabroady: RT @Quinnovator: RT @Quinnovator: @kylemackie @reubentozman have heard that best motivators are fear, greed, and sloth ;) #Lrnchat
09:01:52 pm Quinnovator: a3) removes the teflon that keeps learners from engaging #lrnchat
09:01:54 pm petescottwalton: a3: easier and faster to learn – though it’s hard to keep motivation always high. #lrnchat
09:01:56 pm trainersleaders: q3) Can’t imagine learning without motivation–seems as if that would be like trying to breathe without air. #lrnchat
09:02:00 pm teachernz: @SenseMakey I did what I had to… and little more #lrnchat
09:02:12 pm novologic: @DanHirtEsq motivation and bribes are not really the same thing #lrnchat
09:02:20 pm teachernz: RT @KirkBoller: RT @KirkBoller: Dull, ie compliance, is demotivating. Try to add fun, game elements, to combat this. #lrnchat
09:02:42 pm SenseMakey: Yeah, I guess that sums it up! ha. > RT @teachernz: @SenseMakey I did what I had to… and little more #lrnchat
09:02:46 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @petescottwalton: a3: easier and faster to learn – though its hard to keep motivation always high. #lrnchat
09:02:50 pm BenjaminHarwood: @lrnchat A3) Motivation keeps it real and meaningful. #lrnchat
09:02:52 pm ActivateLearn: RT @AriAvivi: RT @AriAvivi: #lrnchat mandatory learning is meant to protect against lawsuits, not promote improvement
09:03:00 pm DanHirtEsq: @novologic I agree, for sure. I think they are frequently confused. #lrnchat
09:03:09 pm Quinnovator: @SenseMakey reckon the responsibility is on both sides: you help me understand why, I will do the work to learn how #lrnchat
09:03:25 pm reubentozman: @ActivateLearn yeah….curiosity is the natural lead in to ‘learning’. #Lrnchat
09:03:46 pm Quinnovator: a3) minimizes transfer distance: we’re motivated when we need to apply, helps if we’re motivated when we learn/practice #lrnchat
09:03:47 pm nlph: #lrnchat motivation overcomes technique …. A truly motivated learner from the start doesn’t need chocolate
09:03:57 pm reubentozman: RT @edCetraT: q3) better retention and willingness to master a skill #Lrnchat
09:03:58 pm hjarche: “@AriAvivi: #lrnchat mandatory learning is meant to protect against lawsuits, not promote improvement” so true!
09:04:01 pm trainersleaders: RT @reubentozman: Q3) motivation is the fuel to the process of learning. Its everything. Trumps design anyday #lrnchat
09:04:22 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Quinnovator: RT @Quinnovator: a3) adding emotional engagement to cognitive #lrnchat
09:04:23 pm ActivateLearn: Q3) It’s also quite pleasant to work with people who find your learning design motivating. Brings a smile to your face #lrnchat
09:04:53 pm odguru: @nlph chocolate helps though #lrnchat
09:04:54 pm KirkBoller: Trust and support good people, give them responsibility and a challenging assignment, and they learn beyond your expectations. #lrnchat
09:05:01 pm SenseMakey: @Quinnovator Interesting…and brilliant. I do think we co-create learning. #lrnchat
09:05:02 pm trainersleaders: RT @hjarche: “@AriAvivi: #lrnchat mandatory learning is meant to protect against lawsuits, not promote improvement” so true! #lrnchat
09:05:07 pm reubentozman: RT @trainersleaders: q3) Cant imagine learning without motivation–seems as if that would be like trying to breathe without air. #Lrnchat
09:05:42 pm BenjaminHarwood: RT @hjarche: RT @hjarche: “@AriAvivi: #lrnchat mandatory learning is meant to protect against lawsuits, not promote improvement” so true!
09:05:48 pm teachernz: Motivation can remain high if students have input into the learning, self directed, self paced, choice, autonomy. #lrnchat
09:06:14 pm SeanPutman1: RT @trainersleaders: q3) Cant imagine learning without motivation–seems as if that would be like trying to breathe without air. #lrnchat
09:06:19 pm AriAvivi: #lrnchat what i find interesting as a designer though may not be what learners find interesting.
09:06:21 pm SenseMakey: @trainersleaders @AriAvivi great point about mandatory learning. #lrnchat
09:06:21 pm gabriellabroady: RT @teachernz: RT @teachernz: Motivation can remain high if students have input into the learning, self directed, self paced, choice, autonomy. #lrnchat
09:06:43 pm teachernz: RT @hjarche: RT @hjarche: “@AriAvivi: #lrnchat mandatory learning is meant to protect against lawsuits, not promote improvement” so true!
09:07:04 pm SenseMakey: Yes, research support this> RT @teachernz ..if students have input into the learning, self directed, self paced, choice, autonomy. #lrnchat
09:07:22 pm kelly_smith01: Motivation is in the eyes of the beholder – is there an ADDIE-like model for motivation? #lrnchat (attempt at humor)
09:07:41 pm lodtrain: @lrnchat #lrnchat learned a great app simplemind+ to map out elearning ideas and themes @tomkuhlmann
09:08:01 pm Motivology: rt @kelly_smith012012Motivation is in the eyes of the beholder – is there an ADDIE-like model for motivation? #lrnchat (a… #motivology
09:08:04 pm ActivateLearn: @AriAvivi Yes the challenge as a learning professional is to work with client to find right solution for their needs and styles #lrnchat
09:08:10 pm theASIDEblog: Without motivation, engagement & empowerment of learners, there is nothing but rote learning. #lrnchat
09:08:12 pm wls1961: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @JaneBozarth: A2) nothing unmotivates me more than “mandatory” #lrnchat
09:08:19 pm lrnchat: Q4) What helps raise your motivation to learn? #lrnchat
09:08:28 pm DanHirtEsq: RT @lrnchat: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What helps raise your motivation to learn? #lrnchat
09:08:42 pm petescottwalton: sorry all, got to bail early. Great chatting with you all and can’t wait till next time! #lrnchat
09:08:50 pm DanHirtEsq: A4) WIIFM!!!! #lrnchat
09:08:52 pm SeanPutman1: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What helps raise your motivation to learn? #lrnchat
09:08:58 pm ActivateLearn: RT @lrnchat: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What helps raise your motivation to learn? #lrnchat
09:09:00 pm SenseMakey: A4) Relevance, relevance, relevance. Then interest. #lrnchat
09:09:21 pm theASIDEblog: Learning is owned when you actually participate in doing, making and owning it. #lrnchat
09:09:28 pm AriAvivi: @ActivateLearn #lrnchat we are an internal department, so we are often our own clients. “design something good so they will learn”
09:09:30 pm davidbell02: RT @lrnchat: Q4) What helps raise your motivation to learn? #lrnchat
09:09:44 pm SeanPutman1: Q4)Curiosity, a skill that I want/need to learn, simple self improvement #lrnchat
09:09:51 pm kelly_smith01: Motivation occurs when the “learner” recognizes and can apply the subject/content of the learning. #lrnchat
09:09:52 pm trainersleaders: q4) A creatively inspired learning facilitator/trainer/instructor/friend raises my motivation to learn–some who cares! #lrnchat
09:09:54 pm reubentozman: I’m out. Thnx all. Check out my book http://t.co/nU6wGSHj #Lrnchat
09:10:20 pm AriAvivi: #lrnchat q4 WIIFM which is different for each person and each stage of their learning career
09:10:22 pm avafruin: RT @theASIDEblog: RT @theASIDEblog: Learning is owned when you actually participate in doing, making and owning it. #lrnchat
09:10:28 pm gabriellabroady: q4)knowing I’ll get a chance to use it, & not being punished for getting up to speed/proficiency #lrnchat
09:10:30 pm ActivateLearn: Q4) Social interaction;exchanging ideas;sharing info;not being precious about what we know&share;feedback;acknowledgement; support #lrnchat
09:10:40 pm davidbell02: Q4) Failure #lrnchat
09:10:44 pm DanHirtEsq: @trainersleaders Passionate trainers is a huge help! #lrnchat
09:10:59 pm hjarche: @kelly_smith01 I think we need “The 7 Steps of Motivation (TM)” – we could sell it as an add-on to the LMS #lrnchat
09:11:06 pm gabriellabroady: q4)knowing that leadership ppl will be expected to play by the same rules…hmm. #lrnchat
09:11:09 pm SenseMakey: A4) @trainersleaders someone who cares – interesting. that motivates me, but I’m not sure if it’s to *learn* or please the teacher #lrnchat
09:11:18 pm AriAvivi: @trainersleaders #lrnchat very true. why would a learner invest if the instructor won’t ‘drink the kool aid’
09:11:22 pm trainersleaders: RT @kelly_smith01 Motivation occurs when the “learner” recognizes and can apply the subject/content of the learning. #lrnchat
09:11:35 pm teachernz: What r WE DOING with students? Are we filling them w facts or equipping them w skills/processes? the former they can do themselves #lrnchat
09:12:03 pm novologic: @kelly_smith01 motivation starts before that only if learner believes they need to learn something. #lrnchat
09:12:21 pm AriAvivi: #lrnchat a great facilitator has to be the same as a salesman.
09:12:29 pm theASIDEblog: @lrnchat Choice, empowerment and so what motivates learners. #lrnchat
09:12:39 pm ActivateLearn: @AriAvivi That’s helpful.Sometimes internal clients tell us (L&D) what they think they want in design some right, some wrong. #lrnchat
09:12:47 pm trainersleaders: Yes! Passion is priceless in learning! RT @DanHirtEsq Passionate trainers is a huge help! #lrnchat
09:12:59 pm AriAvivi: #lrnchat sorry to stir the pot and run… family calls. Hope to find some of you at CSTD in toronto.
09:13:00 pm DanHirtEsq: @AriAvivi Highlighting value to the ‘customer’ #lrnchat
09:13:07 pm gabriellabroady: RT @theASIDEblog: RT @theASIDEblog: @lrnchat Choice, empowerment and so what motivates learners. #lrnchat
09:13:38 pm theASIDEblog: If you have no voice in the learning process, you check out from participating. #lrnchat
09:13:48 pm nlph: #lrnchat the best of all worlds – learners are clear on motivation – why- before they ever start the learning
09:13:56 pm SenseMakey: I agree for corporate training. But for graduate education, I need help just understanding material. @teachernz #lrnchat
09:14:02 pm gabriellabroady: q4)sometimes my motivation raised when learning in a room w/like-minded people – like @ a conference…or lrnchat for example..#lrnchat
09:14:49 pm theASIDEblog: Play helps to discover a passion for learning. If you can’t play, you can’t learn. #lrnchat
09:14:53 pm ryantracey: Q4) I’m motivated by communities of like-minded people. #lrnchat
09:15:05 pm DanHirtEsq: @gabriellabroady you can’t feel like the best guy in the band and be motivated. you need hang out with ppl smarter than yourslf. #lrnchat
09:15:08 pm ryantracey: @gabriellabroady Oh, snap! #lrnchat
09:15:22 pm davidbell02: RT @gabriellabroady: q4)sometimes my motivation raised when learning in a room w/like-minded people #lrnchat
09:15:37 pm libmou: Qs. 4) when learning is contextual, meaningful. Try to make things relevant in my classes so that students can connect. #lrnchat
09:15:39 pm SenseMakey: @gabriellabroady @ryantracey great point. I am motivated by lrnchat! #lrnchat
09:15:48 pm trainersleaders: q4) A great colleague @pat2pattern suggests that when the head of a company attends a learning session, we see its importance #lrnchat
09:15:50 pm kylemackie: @reubentozman didn’t say it doesn’t make sense, being curious adds less to the drive than fighting for survival #Lrnchat
09:16:00 pm teachernz: @SenseMakey so Teach the material? Or teach strategies to help understand the material? #lrnchat but I agree a base is often needed to start
09:16:02 pm avafruin: @theASIDEblog if students can approach learning in the same way they approach play, they will DEFINITELY learn #lrnchat
09:16:07 pm ActivateLearn: RT @ryantracey: RT @ryantracey: Q4) I’m motivated by communities of like-minded people. #lrnchat
09:16:08 pm KirkBoller: A belief that staying ahead of trends will benefit clients & also staff in advancing their own skills. Learning I do based on this. #lrnchat
09:16:26 pm davidbell02: RT @SenseMakey: @gabriellabroady @ryantracey great point. I am motivated by lrnchat! #lrnchat
09:16:59 pm gabriellabroady: @DanHirtEsq exactly why do u think I join prof associations & online chats?! LOL #lrnchat
09:17:12 pm SenseMakey: @teachernz I was speaking as a learner (grad student myself). I need help with phrases like “organismic metatheory” #lrnchat
09:17:39 pm lodtrain: @lrnchat #lrnchat Q4) When I know the value and WIIFM (whats in it for me) then I am there taking the course.
09:18:01 pm kylemackie: Q4) What helps raise your motivation to learn? when learning is necessary for survival. #lrnchat
09:18:24 pm lrnchat: Q5) How much time are you willing to give to something you want to learn? How much do ACTUALLY give? If different, why? #lrnchat
09:19:04 pm SeanPutman1: RT @lrnchat: Q5) How much time are you willing to give to something you want to learn? How much do ACTUALLY give? If different why? #lrnchat
09:19:27 pm lodtrain: @lrnchat #lrnchat Q2)I am not motivated to learn when I don’t know why the course is pushed to me, so no change management awareness applied
09:19:41 pm davidbell02: RT @lrnchat: Q5) How much time are you willing to give to something you want to learn? How much do ACTUALLY give? #lrnchat
09:19:54 pm theASIDEblog: Resticting free, unstructured learning limits the ability to think on your own. #lrnchat
09:19:58 pm Quinnovator: apologies: on a conf call that I thought was 9AM PT, but instead was pinged that it’s 9PM Singapore time (e.g. now). Bugger. #lrnchat
09:20:03 pm SeanPutman1: Q5)Depends on the task, if highly motivated as long as it takes. Been learning to restore cars for 25+ years #lrnchat
09:20:21 pm DanHirtEsq: a5) maybe 8 hours a week. I’d say I’m pretty close, but life and family sometimes prevent it. #lrnchat
09:21:34 pm ryantracey: +1 MT @SeanPutman1 Q5) As long as it takes. #lrnchat
09:21:35 pm eLearninCyclops: #Lrnchat Q5) if the benefit is gr8 enuf, I am willing to give a lifetime to learning it
09:21:39 pm PML33T: @ImDuta Teacher should have gotten rid of irresponsible students instead. The device isn’t bad. The user is. #lrnchat
09:21:58 pm ActivateLearn: Q5). Devote least 1-2 hours per week for my prof learning. I love it so doesn’t seem like a chore.Also incorporate it into my work #lrnchat
09:22:01 pm KirkBoller: If you want to learn you will no matter the time required. You’ll give exactly what you can. Diff if any means it will take longer. #lrnchat
09:22:01 pm _valeriei: “@lrnchat: Q2) Let’s flip that: When have you NOT been motivated to learn? Why were you NOT motivated? #lrnchat” good Q!
09:22:03 pm trainersleaders: q5) I’m willing to & actually do give as much time as needed to something I want to learn (hours/days/weeks)–& I expect results #lrnchat
09:22:46 pm davidbell02: RT @trainersleaders: q5) Im willing to & actually do give as much time as needed to something I want to learn (hours/days/weeks #lrnchat
09:22:50 pm theASIDEblog: Time does not matter when you’re engaged and love what you are learning. #lrnchat
09:23:03 pm ryantracey: RT @eLearninCyclops: #Lrnchat Q5) if the benefit is gr8 enuf, I am willing to give a lifetime to learning it #lrnchat
09:23:23 pm trainersleaders: RT @eLearninCyclops: Q5) if the benefit is gr8 enuf, I am willing to give a lifetime to learning it #lrnchat
09:23:24 pm SenseMakey: A5) My learning of anything is perpetually short-changed as a busy adult. I often let go of interests to maintain balance #lrnchat
09:23:37 pm gabriellabroady: q5)I’m impatient-wanna try stuff asap & just tweak as I go- example: not a person who reads instructions when building something #lrnchat
09:23:58 pm MikeAbrams: I’m late for the #lrnchat party. What are we eating? I brought some dip.
09:24:35 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @theASIDEblog: RT @theASIDEblog: Time does not matter when you’re engaged and love what you are learning. #lrnchat
09:24:39 pm theASIDEblog: We give up time every Thursday because we are motivated to chat and learn from others. #lrnchat
09:24:40 pm DanHirtEsq: @MikeAbrams There’s a bean-bag chair in the corner, have a seat! #lrnchat
09:24:52 pm BenjaminHarwood: @ActivateLearn #lrnchat The more MOOC offerings I come across, the more I try to make it a priority to spend 1 hour per week participating.
09:25:19 pm trainersleaders: A true learner’s entry to the meal: RT @MikeAbrams: Im late for the #lrnchat party. What are we eating? I brought some dip. #lrnchat
09:25:43 pm teachernz: Thanks for the thinking #lrnchat but the barista is looking at my empty coffee cup. Time to move on I think :-)
09:26:36 pm trainersleaders: RT @theASIDEblog: We give up time every Thursday [for live #lrnchat] because we are motivated to chat and learn from others. #lrnchat
09:26:44 pm Fuller0727: RT @theASIDEblog: RT @theASIDEblog: Learning is owned when you actually participate in doing, making and owning it. #lrnchat
09:27:08 pm gabriellabroady: RT @trainersleaders: RT @trainersleaders: RT @theASIDEblog: We give up time every Thursday [for live #lrnchat] because we are motivated to chat and learn fro …
09:28:25 pm lrnchat: Q6) When have you been anxious about learning? What made you feel that way? #lrnchat
09:28:32 pm DanHirtEsq: RT @lrnchat: RT @lrnchat: Q6) When have you been anxious about learning? What made you feel that way? #lrnchat
09:28:52 pm SeanPutman1: RT @lrnchat: Q6) When have you been anxious about learning? What made you feel that way? #lrnchat
09:28:53 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @lrnchat: RT @lrnchat: Q6) When have you been anxious about learning? What made you feel that way? #lrnchat
09:29:02 pm davidbell02: RT @lrnchat: Q6) When have you been anxious about learning? What made you feel that way? #lrnchat
09:29:29 pm SenseMakey: A6) Have I really ever been anxious about learning? Not sure. Anxious about performance expectations, though. #lrnchat
09:29:39 pm ActivateLearn: RT @lrnchat: RT @lrnchat: Q6) When have you been anxious about learning? What made you feel that way? #lrnchat
09:29:52 pm DanHirtEsq: A6) When the stakes are really high I get anxious. If I’m a technophobe but have to learn software for a changing job, yikes! #lrnchat
09:30:07 pm SeanPutman1: Q6)When I am learning something new that is outside my comfort zone. #lrnchat
09:30:18 pm davidbell02: Q6) When completing compliance training the day it’s due. #lrnchat
09:30:31 pm eLearninCyclops: #Lrnchat q6) anxious when trying to learn how to fix my broken car, blog, PC, or ______.
09:30:36 pm ActivateLearn: Q6) For me it was at university – where my education to achieve my first qualification and start a career was the biggest hurdle #lrnchat
09:30:50 pm KirkBoller: Fear of failure makes you anxious about learning, when failing is in fact one of the best ways to learn. Managing that is key! #lrnchat
09:30:51 pm kylemackie: Q6) Learning is an anxiety-producing activity by definition, isn’t it? Otherwise, you’re probably not learning anything. #lrnchat
09:31:10 pm ryantracey: Q6) When you are playing catch-up. #lrnchat
09:31:22 pm gabriellabroady: q6)when I finally met a software I couldn’t figure out by messing around (InDesign)-& I was doing work 4 a client #lrnchat
09:31:41 pm kylemackie: Q6) and is there anything wrong with anxiety? #lrnchat
09:31:44 pm theASIDEblog: Learners get anxious when they worry about failing. Encourage failure in learning to grow from mistakes. Anxiety will drop. #lrnchat
09:32:06 pm DanHirtEsq: @KirkBoller I think we need to express the value of failure to our learners. Make training failure friendly. #lrnchat
09:32:40 pm KirkBoller: Make “failing experience” a safe environment and fun. Gamification and simulation rather than actually failing for real. #lrnchat
09:32:43 pm trainersleaders: q6) Used to be anxious about learning when I worried about grades–then realized how idiotic it was to let fear of failure stop me #lrnchat
09:32:55 pm ActivateLearn: Bye everyone. Must log off now and get back to work as I have pressing deadlines. Been fun! #lrnchat
09:33:01 pm SeanPutman1: @kylemackie to a degree no, a bit of anxiety can be good. Too much anxiety could lead to losing motivation #lrnchat
09:33:08 pm libmou: Qs. 5) it depends! When integrated in daily life, it’s not a chore… Learning by doing makes it perfect! #lrnchat
09:33:13 pm KirkBoller: @DanHirtEsq Agree! Just posted more on just that. #lrnchat
09:33:19 pm SenseMakey: A6)I may be the outlier for this one-very rarely had test anxiety. Even then, the anxiety is still around expectations, isn’t it? #lrnchat
09:33:20 pm gabriellabroady: q6) Learning a foreign language – with a hearing loss – conjugations when you can’t hear “s” are a bi***! #lrnchat
09:34:20 pm trainersleaders: RT @KirkBoller: Fear of failure makes you anxious about learning; failing is…one of the best ways to learn; managing that is key #lrnchat
09:34:35 pm ryantracey: @SeanPutman1 @kylemackie Anxiety is probably a bell curve… transforming from a motivating force to a destructive one. #lrnchat
09:34:35 pm theASIDEblog: We need to leave early tonight. Thanks for the chat. #lrnchat
09:35:40 pm SeanPutman1: @ryantracey for sure. #lrnchat
09:36:25 pm gabriellabroady: q6)learning in transformational moments (birth of child, accident, death of loved one), anxious how to behave-no “steps” to follow #lrnchat
09:36:33 pm SenseMakey: A6) I am trying to think of any examples where *learning* causes anxiety, rather than apprehension about evaluation… can’t! #lrnchat
09:36:51 pm trainersleaders: @KyleMackie The problem with anxiety/stress in learning is that it shuts down the neocortex, so learning is impeded. #lrnchat
09:37:08 pm kylemackie: key motivators to learning are fear and anxiety. the goal is to make fear and anxiety not so scary, but not to lose sight of them. #lrnchat
09:38:15 pm kylemackie: @trainersleaders learning *as you define it* is impeded, yes. #lrnchat
09:38:19 pm lrnchat: Q7) What barriers does anxiety produce when someone is learning? #lrnchat
09:38:40 pm SeanPutman1: Gotta run, thanks for the chat everyone! #lrnchat
09:38:43 pm SenseMakey: A6) isn’t *learning* – pure and simple – inherently pleasurable? When someone wants to score you, isn’t that when anxiety starts? #lrnchat
09:38:45 pm DanHirtEsq: RT @lrnchat: RT @lrnchat: Q7) What barriers does anxiety produce when someone is learning? #lrnchat
09:38:47 pm MikeAbrams: Thanks! RT @DanHirtEsq: @MikeAbrams There’s a bean-bag chair in the corner, have a seat! #lrnchat
09:39:00 pm ThomasStone: RT @SenseMakey: A6) Have I really ever been anxious about learning? Not sure. Anxious about performance expectations, though. #lrnchat
09:39:19 pm KirkBoller: @SenseMakey How about if you don’t keep learning every day you won’t be able to do your job eventually? No evaluation involved. #lrnchat
09:39:27 pm MikeAbrams: Lol. RT @trainersleaders: A true learner’s entry to the meal: RT @MikeAbrams: Im late for the #lrnchat party. What are we eating?
09:39:39 pm DanHirtEsq: a7) Anxiety distracts learners and causes self-doubt. #lrnchat
09:39:56 pm teachernz: #lrnchat down under @ Rocket Espresso Bar http://t.co/C5PEXRfT
09:40:09 pm davidbell02: RT @lrnchat: Q7) What barriers does anxiety produce when someone is learning? #lrnchat
09:40:23 pm DanHirtEsq: RT @teachernz: RT @teachernz: #lrnchat down under @ Rocket Espresso Bar http://t.co/C5PEXRfT
09:40:43 pm SenseMakey: A7) Anxiety totally interferes with learning, in my opinion. I don’t think it helps – I think cognitive arousal helps learning. #lrnchat
09:41:03 pm Quinnovator: a7) a tiny bit of stress is ok, but too much interferes with performance, learning #lrnchat
09:41:09 pm gabriellabroady: RT @DanHirtEsq: RT @DanHirtEsq: a7) Anxiety distracts learners and causes self-doubt. #lrnchat
09:41:17 pm kylemackie: @DanHirtEsq self-doubt isn’t all bad. oh wait, now I’m not so sure… ;) #lrnchat
09:41:35 pm davidbell02: Q7) I believe anxiety limits the blood supply to my brain. #lrnchat
09:41:47 pm kylemackie: @Quinnovator and what of “thriving under stress”? #lrnchat
09:41:55 pm KirkBoller: A7. Lack of confidence. Fear. Futility. Why bother? Needs to be fun, safe, but realistic experience. #lrnchat
09:42:15 pm SenseMakey: @KirkBoller I think that’s what we try to do in our organization. Assessments < actual performance, thanks to @JD_Dillon. #lrnchat
09:42:17 pm DanHirtEsq: @kylemackie I guess everything in moderation. Except #lrnchat. Bring it on!
09:42:18 pm briandusablon: Can’t wait to read this: RT @reubentozman: Body of work I’m pleased about. I think you’ll enjoy it http://t.co/1TPa6zKI #LrnChat
09:42:19 pm trainersleaders: RT @kylemackie self-doubt isn’t all bad. oh wait, now I’m not so sure… ;) #lrnchat
09:42:25 pm Quinnovator: @kylemackie U-shaped curve of performance, some good, too much bad (though peak of curve differs by individual) #lrnchat
09:42:32 pm MJK60631: RT @lrnchat: RT @lrnchat: Q7) What barriers does anxiety produce when someone is learning? #lrnchat
09:42:44 pm libmou: Anxiety can be a motivating variable for learning! #lrnchat
09:43:13 pm kylemackie: a stress-free environment is devoid of opportunities to learn. #lrnchat
09:43:19 pm SenseMakey: Yes. A tiny bit! RT @Quinnovator: a7) a tiny bit of stress is ok, but too much interferes with performance, learning #lrnchat
09:44:24 pm kylemackie: at least *someone* understands. RT @libmou: Anxiety can be a motivating variable for learning! #lrnchat
09:44:31 pm SenseMakey: I think “anxiety” is being confused with “cortical arousal” in some cases. Yes, we need stimulation and challenge, but not too much #lrnchat
09:44:50 pm MJK60631: Q7) Anxiety in learning interferes w/focus and self-confidence. #lrnchat
09:45:58 pm marciamarcia: And learning! Hmm. Does anxiety help with anything? RT @MJK60631: Anxiety in learning interferes w/focus and self-confidence. #lrnchat
09:46:27 pm KirkBoller: @SenseMakey Awesome! #lrnchat
09:47:02 pm SenseMakey: I think it always comes back to finding flow. http://t.co/COONwMwU #lrnchat
09:47:36 pm Quinnovator: @kylemackie @libmou some anxiety may be motivating, but too much actually interferes with learning #lrnchat
09:48:23 pm lrnchat: Q8) What reduces anxiety about learning? #lrnchat
09:48:35 pm marciamarcia: Just waving #lrnchat friends. Finishing up prep for #HRTechConf next week. If you’re going, please stop by & say hello!
09:48:36 pm DanHirtEsq: RT @lrnchat: RT @lrnchat: Q8) What reduces anxiety about learning? #lrnchat
09:48:52 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @lrnchat: Q8) What reduces anxiety about learning? #lrnchat
09:49:13 pm SenseMakey: A8) Expectation management! I think expectations are the real source of anxiety. #lrnchat
09:49:26 pm MJK60631: RT @lrnchat: RT @lrnchat: Q8) What reduces anxiety about learning? #lrnchat
09:49:45 pm DanHirtEsq: a8) Supportive trainers. Comfortably paced learning. having clear objectives. #lrnchat
09:50:11 pm eLearninCyclops: Q8) Giving learners expectations of what they should achieve and the support of the trainer and management #lrnchat
09:50:14 pm KirkBoller: Defined checkpoints. Feedback and coaching. Knowing the support is there to complete the learning task(s). #lrnchat
09:50:18 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @DanHirtEsq: a8) Supportive trainers. Comfortably paced learning. having clear objectives. #lrnchat
09:50:23 pm kylemackie: @lrnchat wearing comfortable shoes to class #lrnchat
09:50:23 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q8) What reduces anxiety about learning? #lrnchat
09:50:29 pm gabriellabroady: RT @SenseMakey: RT @SenseMakey: A8) Expectation management! I think expectations are the real source of anxiety. #lrnchat
09:51:11 pm SenseMakey: A8) I think part of expectation management is in helping learners to construct their schema of the topic and learning experience. #lrnchat
09:51:14 pm gabriellabroady: a8) space (time, room, opportunity) to try and make mistakes #lrnchat
09:51:20 pm ryantracey: Q8) Often it’s just the learning, when you gain a bit of knowledge/confidence & realise it’s not that bad after all. #lrnchat
09:51:22 pm kylemackie: physical comfort is important. #lrnchat
09:51:24 pm trainersleaders: q8) Supportive instructors/learning facilitators & learning environments help reduce anxiety in learning–& communities of learning #lrnchat
09:51:28 pm eLearninCyclops: Q8) Opportunities to use the skills/knowledge right away. & if possible, in a safe environment. #lrnchat
09:51:43 pm MJK60631: Q8) Self-confidence and a plan for approaching a new or daunting topic. How does one eat an elephant? One bite at a time. #lrnchat
09:51:49 pm Quinnovator: a8) safe practice, obvious desire for learner success, well-defined support, evidence that content is well grounded and designed #lrnchat
09:51:53 pm eLearninCyclops: Q8) Safe environ to practice new skills #lrnchat
09:51:59 pm Quinnovator: RT @eLearninCyclops: Q8) Safe environ to practice new skills #lrnchat
09:52:04 pm DanHirtEsq: RT @eLearninCyclops: RT @eLearninCyclops: Q8) Safe environ to practice new skills #lrnchat
09:52:20 pm Quinnovator: a8) early success #lrnchat
09:52:28 pm ryantracey: @trainersleaders Yes, a collaborative culture is key. #lrnchat
09:52:36 pm SenseMakey: A8) Helping learners construct a framework in their mind that makes it easier to plug in the details as they go along. #lrnchat
09:52:43 pm ryantracey: RT @Quinnovator: RT @eLearninCyclops: Q8) Safe environ to practice new skills #lrnchat
09:52:44 pm DanHirtEsq: @eLearninCyclops I always get a little jumpy if there’s a role play without much practice. ‘come on up to the front!’ #lrnchat
09:52:53 pm novologic: @MJK60631 we always tell our clients “don’t try to boil the ocean all at once” #lrnchat
09:52:59 pm davidbell02: RT @eLearninCyclops: Q8) Safe environ to practice new skills #lrnchat
09:53:29 pm trainersleaders: RT @DanHirtEsq a8) Supportive trainers, comfortably paced learning, & having clear objectives [reduce anxiety about learning]. #lrnchat
09:53:46 pm SenseMakey: @DanHirtEsq @elearningcyclops ha, right? It’s like when you go to see Rocky Horror for the first time. #lrnchat
09:53:47 pm davidbell02: RT @Quinnovator: a8) early success #lrnchat
09:55:13 pm Quinnovator: a8) approachably sized chunks, scaffolding, meaningful tasks #lrnchat
09:55:17 pm trainersleaders: RT @gabriellabroady a8) space (time, room, opportunity) to try and make mistakes [reduces anxiety about learning] #lrnchat
09:55:26 pm lrnchat: QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourself. (Shameless plugs welcome.) #lrnchat
09:55:41 pm DanHirtEsq: RT @lrnchat: RT @lrnchat: QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourself. (Shameless plugs welcome.) #lrnchat
09:55:41 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @SenseMakey: @DanHirtEsq @elearningcyclops ha, right? Its like when you go to see Rocky Horror for the first time | Exactly :) #lrnchat
09:55:46 pm trainersleaders: RT @SenseMakey: A8) Expectation management [reduces anxiety in learning]! I think expectations are the real source of anxiety. #lrnchat
09:55:52 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @davidbell02: RT @Quinnovator: a8) early success #lrnchat
09:56:06 pm ryantracey: Next week I’m posting a blog *in favor of* compliance training. Stay tuned! http://t.co/plrBW22W #ShamelessPlug #lrnchat
09:56:18 pm Quinnovator: thanks to new and old friends for another great #lrnchat!
09:56:33 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @ryantracey: Next week Im posting a blog *in favor of* compliance training. Stay tuned! http://t.co/f9yjpq6F #ShamelessPlug #lrnchat
09:56:43 pm MJK60631: @novologic Sound advice. Too often, students talk themselves out of learning because the gap between here & there overwhelms. #lrnchat
09:57:24 pm SenseMakey: Qwrap) Heather, Instructional Designer, grad student, learner, and privileged to work with @JD_Dillon who sadly isn’t here. #lrnchat
09:57:37 pm DanHirtEsq: Dan Hirt, podcaster, blogger, trainer, man about town. http://t.co/brX5vGZA #lrnchat Thanks All!
09:57:47 pm davidbell02: QWrap) Enjoyed the evening, David, Houston, I plan to ride my bike this weekend. #lrnchat
09:57:56 pm SenseMakey: @ryantracey The Rapid E-Learning Blog had a good post about compliance courses back in May, I think. #lrnchat
09:58:00 pm MJK60631: RT @lrnchat: RT @lrnchat: QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourself. (Shameless plugs welcome.) #lrnchat
09:58:17 pm trainersleaders: lrnchat wrap: Paul Signorelli, writer-trainer-consultant; learning-motivation resource (ppt): http://t.co/fZMErztV #lrnchat
09:58:17 pm eLearninCyclops: Jeff Goldman – eLearning Designer in Baltimore and… “Let’s do the time warp again” :) #lrnchat
09:58:21 pm BenjaminHarwood: @Quinnovator As with most things Twitter, just stumbled across #lrnchat for the first time. It’s been fun. See you around then…
09:58:35 pm Quinnovator: hope to see you at mobilearnasia or devlearn #lrnchat
09:58:54 pm Quinnovator: @BenjaminHarwood glad you found and liked it! #lrnchat
09:58:55 pm KirkBoller: Kirk Boller, VP @blpindy. Like the chat. Thanks to all at #lrnchat. Check out #talktech, 3pm EST Thursdays. #lrnchat
09:59:35 pm MJK60631: QWrap) Melissa from the brand new @KraftFoods in the great state of Illinois. Thanks for always inspiring, folks! #lrnchat
09:59:36 pm ryantracey: @SenseMakey I’ll look it up, thanks! #lrnchat
10:00:53 pm DanHirtEsq: Just posted it! http://t.co/2pErDCuR #lrnchat
10:01:23 pm lrnchat: Goodnight everyone. See you next week, October 4th, 8:30pm EST / 5:30pm PST. #lrnchat
10:01:39 pm trainersleaders: Yes! RT @MJK60631 Too often, students talk themselves out of learning because the gap between here & there overwhelms. #lrnchat
10:01:51 pm libmou: Glad I stumbled across #lrnchat today! That’s what I learned

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