Transcript 23 August 2012 Mentoring and Coaching

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08:31:04 pm lrnchat: Hello everyone and welcome to #lrnchat. How have you been?
08:31:32 pm JD_Dillon: It’s time for sharing and tweeting and learning! Pardon the volume. #lrnchat
08:31:38 pm lrnchat: Please introduce yourself. Name, specialties, interests, etc.? #lrnchat
08:31:48 pm dawnjmahoney: RT @lrnchat: 15 Minutes to #lrnchat… Hope to see you there.
08:32:19 pm cdna_OrgDev: @lrnchat Pretty good! Finishing up the last edits for the print version of our book. Exciting times. How about you? #cdna #lrnchat
08:32:58 pm reubentozman: Hello. Reuben Tozman CLO edCetra Training and aspiring optimist #Lrnchat
08:33:07 pm JD_Dillon: JD from Orlando, FL., interested in all things learning and performance improvement. Spend lots of time building wikis. #lrnchat
08:33:27 pm eLearninCyclops: Jeff Goldman – eLearning Designer in Baltimore, MD. This week my interest is compliance and HIPAA, ugh #lrnchat
08:33:27 pm urbie: #lrnchat urbie delgado, instructional designer, elearning engagement via story, humanizing distance ed one “once upon a time” at a time..
08:33:34 pm lrnchat: Q0. We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:33:37 pm cdna_OrgDev: Ashley. “Social Media Voice” for #cdna . Interested in #HR #OrgDev and company #culture Happy to chat with you all. #lrnchat
08:34:12 pm ktvee: Krissy from Missouri, addicted to learning #lrnchat
08:34:25 pm theASIDEblog: theASIDEblog here, interested in design in learning, visual literacy and creativity #lrnchat
08:34:29 pm cdna_OrgDev: A0. Employment branding is extremely important for engaging employees and attracting talent. It promotes #orgdev #lrnchat
08:34:50 pm AllisonAnderson: Hi all. Allison from Portland, OR. Learning Strategist in high tech. Still not sure what that means.
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08:34:51 pm CandiceCPLP: Hi, #lrnchat. Candice Kramer, ID/PM; this week – info graphics, next week, who knows?
08:35:02 pm JD_Dillon: A0) Experienced a great presentation from @C4LPT on social learning and workplace collaboration earlier this week. #lrnchat
08:35:15 pm DirectorAmy: Just found #lrnchat today. I’m Amy, Director of Ed Services in So Cal. Today I learned that coaching conversations are powerful in groups.
08:35:29 pm DirectorAmy: RT @lrnchat: Q0. We always begin with this: What did you learn today? If not today, then this week? #lrnchat
08:35:32 pm cdna_OrgDev: A0. Businesses must promote a learning company #culture to keep their competitive edge #lrnchat
08:36:02 pm cdna_OrgDev: @JD_Dillon Fantastic! We’re crazy about collaboration! #lrnchat
08:36:03 pm AllisonAnderson: A1) Putting staffing together with learning for to serve as enterprise talent org. Huge potential, well matched, lots of work. #lrnchat
08:36:16 pm theASIDEblog: We learned the importance of taking the time to recharge before the start of another school year by reading, beaching, & relaxing. #lrnchat
08:36:52 pm cdna_OrgDev: RT @AllisonAnderson: A1) Putting staffing together with learning for to serve as enterprise talent org. Huge potential] #lrnchat
08:36:53 pm urbie: #lrnchat learned that 75 mph is no where near the velocity i need to be traveling to make the jump to lightspeed.. at least in my Pilot..
08:37:02 pm CandiceCPLP: #lrnchat Q0. Today I learned that there is really no limit to the stupidity of leadership in the face of data. I knew that, tho
08:37:08 pm eLearninCyclops: Q0) Learned today – Still people out there who want PPT versions of my course 2 use in the classroom. Don’t think they get it #lrnchat
08:37:53 pm LnDDave: Q0) Greetings #lrnchat! David Kelly from NYC. I just learned that facebook updated their iPhone to a Native app instead of HTML5
08:38:43 pm edCetraT: Q0) hi all, Nancy from toronto
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08:39:06 pm eLearninCyclops: Q0) Learned 2day my kid’s class size is smaller this yr. Gr8 2 c our school that is hiring MORE teachers – thankful #lrnchat
08:39:29 pm reubentozman: Q0) learned what a ‘bung” was on a motorcycle #Lrnchat
08:39:37 pm lrnchat: Q1) What are the differences between mentoring and coaching? #lrnchat
08:40:03 pm edCetraT: Q0) I learned that i can read a book written for IDs without being an ID and learn a few things ;) #lrnchat
08:40:04 pm LnDDave: @eLearninCyclops That’s a nice change of pace from what you usually hear about teacher/student ratios. #lrnchat
08:40:12 pm cdna_OrgDev: @eLearninCyclops Def. It allows teachers to have more time to personally mentor children. Great for growth! #lrnchat
08:40:13 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are the differences between mentoring and coaching? #lrnchat
08:40:18 pm reubentozman: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are the differences between mentoring and coaching? #Lrnchat
08:40:24 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are the differences between mentoring and coaching? #lrnchat
08:40:26 pm chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are the differences between mentoring and coaching? #lrnchat
08:40:41 pm MichelleLBaker: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are the differences between mentoring and coaching? #lrnchat
08:41:09 pm cdna_OrgDev: A1. Mentoring seems to be more about learning and growth. It’s full of feedback, participative communication, and is a partnership. #lrnchat
08:41:15 pm lodtrain: #lrnchat Learned that some training vendors do not want to leave their Instructor Led Classroom to go virtual. Where they could reach more
08:41:15 pm urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are the differences between mentoring and coaching? #lrnchat
08:41:23 pm AllisonAnderson: A1) hmm.. mentoring is a longer term relationship, coaching is more specific. Maybe.
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08:41:29 pm JD_Dillon: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are the differences between mentoring and coaching? #lrnchat
08:41:37 pm cdna_OrgDev: A1. Coaching seems to be more of a corrective action. Unfortunately, it can be very one-way sometimes. #lrnchat
08:41:50 pm eLearninCyclops: Q1) Mentoring long term and much stronger commitment to the learner/prodigy #lrnchat
08:41:51 pm chet_stevenson: Q1) To me, mentoring is based on a relationship, coaching can be done by anyone. #lrnchat
08:41:56 pm reubentozman: Q1) subtle difference. Coaching is more performance oriented. More short term where mentoring is a closer long term kinda thing #Lrnchat
08:42:21 pm LnDDave: A1) Coaching is generally between a supervisor and direct report; mentoring doesn’t always follow hierarchy. #lrnchat
08:42:44 pm cdna_OrgDev: MT @reubentozman: Q1)Coaching is more performance oriented. More short term where mentoring is a closer long term kinda thing #lrnchat
08:43:03 pm edCetraT: RT @JD_Dillon: RT @lrnchat: Q1) What are the differences between mentoring and coaching? #lrnchat
08:43:04 pm AllisonAnderson: RT @LnDDave: A1) Coaching is generally between a supervisor and direct report; mentoring doesnt always follow hierarchy. #lrnchat
08:43:09 pm reubentozman: Good one RT @LnDDave: A1) Coaching is generally between a supervisor and direct report; mentoring doesnt always follow hierarchy. #Lrnchat
08:43:10 pm MichelleLBaker: Q1) A mentor models behavior FOR a mentee. A coach draws the behavior out IN the coachee. (among other things!) #lrnchat
08:43:21 pm JD_Dillon: A1) Depends on interpretation, but mentoring tends to be a long-term, individual process. Coaching is immediate/targeted. #lrnchat
08:43:30 pm culture_jammer: Ashley. “Social Media Voice” for #cdna . Interested in #HR #OrgDev and company #culture Happy to chat with you all. #lrnchat
08:43:35 pm culture_jammer: A0. Businesses must promote a learning company #culture to keep their competitive edge #lrnchat
08:43:40 pm atsc: I’m Lurking on #lrnchat
08:43:41 pm AllisonAnderson: RT @chet_stevenson: Q1) To me, mentoring is based on a relationship, coaching can be done by anyone. #lrnchat
08:44:00 pm lodtrain: #lrnchat Q1 Mentoring is done by someone you choose, Coaching by folks who choose to help us
08:44:09 pm AllisonAnderson: RT @MichelleLBaker: Q1) A mentor models behavior FOR a mentee. A coach draws the behavior out IN the coachee.>> Love this!
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08:44:13 pm stickylearning: Q1 mentoring is showing people a way & letting them choose. Coaching is telling people to do things a certain way #lrnchat
08:44:24 pm theASIDEblog: Mentoring usually means to guide someone new to help them get settled. Coaching occurs once they’ve be there for awhile. #lrnchat
08:44:28 pm LnDDave: A1) Coaching is about supporting present task competency; mentoring is about preparing for future task competency. #lrnchat
08:44:32 pm denniscallahan: Hello #lrnchat – joining late
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08:44:40 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q1 mentor is breath mint. no, seriously, a mentor is like a coach but more one-to-one; coach is like a mentor but more one-to-many.
08:44:45 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @lodtrain: #lrnchat Q1 Mentoring is done by someone you choose, Coaching by folks who choose to help us #lrnchat
08:44:55 pm CandiceCPLP: Q1 mentoring for understanding the industry, culture, and finding a place in it. Coaching for personal dev/enrichment #lrnchat
08:45:02 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @stickylearning: Q1 mentoring is showing people a way & letting them choose. Coaching is telling people 2 do things certain way #lrnchat
08:45:11 pm StephenCHudson: Q1. Mentoring is guiding into new territory – Coaching works in current environment, adds new, corrects misconceptions or actions. #lrnchat
08:45:18 pm reubentozman: Q1) a mentor serves as a role model…some coaches are mentors in that way #Lrnchat
08:45:24 pm edCetraT: q1) coach someone new skills. mentor someone who wants to master skills #lrnchat
08:45:25 pm JD_Dillon: A1) In some unfortunate orgs, coaching has taken on a negative stigma while mentoring remains a positive concept. #lrnchat
08:45:35 pm cdna_OrgDev: RT @stickylearning: Q1 mentoring is showing people a way & letting them choose. Coaching is telling people 2 do things certain way #lrnchat
08:45:39 pm denniscallahan: Q1) Mentor is more career/life development, coaching is more job focused #lrnchat
08:45:46 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @LnDDave: Coaching is about supporting present task competency; mentoring is about preparing for future task competency | ditto #lrnchat
08:46:04 pm MichelleLBaker: Q1) Coaching focuses on skill/behaviors for the job. Mentoring focuses on strategy/connections for the career. #lrnchat
08:46:12 pm JD_Dillon: A1) Mentoring focuses on developing the person overall. Coaching focuses on performance outcomes. #lrnchat
08:46:21 pm LnDDave: Q1) Coaching is functional; mentoring is personal. #lrnchat
08:46:30 pm LnDDave: RT @JD_Dillon: A1) Mentoring focuses on developing the person overall. Coaching focuses on performance outcomes. #lrnchat
08:46:35 pm reubentozman: RT @LnDDave: A1) Coaching is about supporting present task competency; mentoring is about preparing for future task competency. #Lrnchat
08:46:41 pm theASIDEblog: Coaching is usually hierarchal, and mentoring within a level or discipline. Coaching and mentoring can’t be done by just anyone. #lrnchat
08:47:06 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q1 flip-side.. mentor is like signs on the highway pointing the way for learner who decides which to take; coach tells you (loudly)
08:47:13 pm theASIDEblog: Both mentor and coach need support and training to be effective. #lrnchat
08:47:51 pm eLearninCyclops: Q1) Mentor is there no matter where u end up, coach is with u as long as u r on their team #lrnchat
08:48:04 pm reubentozman: You can mentor without being chosen to do so. Your always chosen to coach #Lrnchat
08:48:13 pm LnDDave: A1) Coaching ends when you are able to perform a task on your own; mentoring focuses on continuous growth. #lrnchat
08:48:25 pm edCetraT: RT @JD_Dillon: A1) A good coach makes you a better play. A good mentor gets you into the hall of fame. #lrnchat
08:48:32 pm cdna_OrgDev: Regardless, mentors and coaches should help employees learn how to be more effective and efficient. They help you be the best. #lrnchat
08:48:38 pm SeanPutman1: Q1)Coach is the step by step, mentor is making you think about the step by step #lrnchat
08:48:40 pm stickylearning: Q1 you can coach or mentor, the difference is control #lrnchat
08:48:40 pm JD_Dillon: A1) A good coach makes you a better player. A good mentor helps you get yourself into the hall of fame. #lrnchat
08:49:33 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q1 redux a mentor was the teacher in 10th grade you credit for your current vocation; coach is the guy that made you sweat like mad
08:49:38 pm denniscallahan: @LnDDave – yes, mentoring can last a lifetime
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08:49:38 pm LnDDave: A1) Coaching is a required part of management, one that they often fail at because it is forced on them without understanding. #lrnchat
08:49:39 pm SeanPutman1: Q1) Mentors usually want to do the task, coaches can be assigned with no desire to do the task #lrnchat
08:49:54 pm MichelleLBaker: Q1) I can coach someone to behave a certain way…I can mentor someone to understand WHY. #lrnchat
08:50:11 pm theASIDEblog: By definition both instruct. In education we see mentors as helping someone new to the field. Coaching is for those in the field. #lrnchat
08:50:23 pm lodtrain: RT @eLearninCyclops: Q1) Mentor is there no matter where u end up, coach is with u as long as u r on their team #lrnchat
08:50:37 pm eLearninCyclops: @cdna_OrgDev @LnDDave Absolutely, I almost fell over (shock & joy) when they told me they increased # of teachers. #lrnchat
08:50:39 pm reubentozman: Coaching and mentoring r not mutually exclusive. Part of the same continuum. It’s the perception of those being helped that make it #Lrnchat
08:50:44 pm lrnchat: Q2) Have you ever seen a successful mentoring or coaching relationship? What made it work? #lrnchat
08:50:46 pm JD_Dillon: A1) Coaching is a transaction. Mentoring is a relationship. #lrnchat
08:51:09 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Have you ever seen a successful mentoring or coaching relationship? What made it work? #lrnchat
08:51:15 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Have you ever seen a successful mentoring or coaching relationship? What made it work? #lrnchat
08:51:24 pm edCetraT: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Have you ever seen a successful mentoring or coaching relationship? What made it work? #lrnchat
08:51:31 pm stickylearning: Q1 coaching > management: mentoring > leadership #lrnchat
08:51:37 pm theASIDEblog: @MichelleLBaker Respectfully disagree, both should teach understanding through instruction and constructive criticism. #lrnchat
08:51:39 pm SeanPutman1: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Have you ever seen a successful mentoring or coaching relationship? What made it work? #lrnchat
08:52:00 pm urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Have you ever seen a successful mentoring or coaching relationship? What made it work? #lrnchat
08:52:04 pm cdna_OrgDev: A2. Communication and trust on both ends. #lrnchat
08:52:13 pm JD_Dillon: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Have you ever seen a successful mentoring or coaching relationship? What made it work? #lrnchat
08:52:37 pm LnDDave: A2) I’ve seen a number of successful relationships. In all cases both coach and coachee see the benefits of the relationship. #lrnchat
08:52:51 pm lodtrain: @lrnchat Q2 Mentoring works with mutual respect and homework so to speak (actions to do to become better) #lrnchat
08:52:56 pm SeanPutman1: Q2) I have seen many successful mentoring relationships. The desire and trust of both parties makes it successful #lrnchat
08:52:57 pm MichelleLBaker: Pardon the #lrnchat tweets – we’re discussing Coaching & Mentoring tonight. Join us! #lrnchat
08:53:01 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q2 yes, Mrs. Beeson, my 10th grade journalism teacher, was my mentor til her death in ’92. trust (her’s in me) and belief (mine)..
08:53:18 pm AllisonAnderson: Q2) Commitment and Trust. Mutual respect. #lrnchat
08:53:24 pm JD_Dillon: A2) I’ve seen a lot more coaching than mentoring over the years. Both require trust, accountability, and shared goals. #lrnchat
08:53:29 pm eLearninCyclops: Q2) As mentor, finding opportunities 2 let person go off on own & try.Plenty of trust & having their back especially when they fail #lrnchat
08:53:31 pm cdna_OrgDev: A2. Listening and openness to be innovative to discover the best practices. Sometimes it requires teamwork. #lrnchat
08:53:34 pm LnDDave: A2) I think Coaching relationships often fail because managers coach by ‘telling’, and that’s different than coaching. #lrnchat
08:53:46 pm edCetraT: Q2) i think a good example would be coach/head coach relationship of a winning football team #lrnchat
08:53:53 pm SeanPutman1: RT @LnDDave: A2)Ive seen a # of successful relationships. In all cases both coach and coachee c the benefits of the relationship. #lrnchat
08:53:55 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @AllisonAnderson: Q2) Commitment and Trust. Mutual respect. #lrnchat
08:54:07 pm theASIDEblog: Coach is a trainer and mentor more of an advisor. At the end of the day, aren’t we talking about helping to instruct? #lrnchat
08:54:30 pm cdna_OrgDev: @LnDDave And I’m sure a lot of professionals don’t appreciate being “told” what to do. #lrnchat
08:54:38 pm LnDDave: A2) The best coaches and mentors know that they are also learners in the relationship. #lrnchat
08:54:39 pm JD_Dillon: A2) One employer used the term “coaching” for negative entries on employee records. How do you think the term was perceived? #lrnchat
08:55:17 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q2 at a workshop late last year I was reacquainted with mentoring; sadly i don’t hear/see evidence of them except at highest levels
08:55:42 pm cdna_OrgDev: @JD_Dillon I’ve seen organizations use coaching as a corrective action. Employees didn’t feel good if they had to be coached. #lrnchat
08:55:43 pm JD_Dillon: A2) Good mentors care beyond the requirements of the role. Coaches can leave work at the office and still succeed. #lrnchat
08:55:59 pm eLearninCyclops: Q2) Good Mentor wants prodigy to exceed their own abilities and knowledge. #lrnchat
08:56:01 pm MichelleLBaker: Q2) The successful relationships I’ve seen have been built on a common foundation of openness, trust, and communication. #lrnchat
08:56:03 pm chet_stevenson: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Have you ever seen a successful mentoring or coaching relationship? What made it work? #lrnchat
08:56:15 pm Tracy_Parish: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Have you ever seen a successful mentoring or coaching relationship? What made it work? #lrnchat
08:56:19 pm cdna_OrgDev: +100 Very true! #OrgDev #cdna RT @LnDDave: A2) The best coaches and mentors know that they are also learners in the relationship. #lrnchat
08:56:28 pm JD_Dillon: @cdna_OrgDev exactly! creates a fear of making mistakes that inhibits learning. #lrnchat
08:56:46 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q2 back in my lingo days Mike Bashista was a mentor; they’re like journeymen of old: taking on an apprentice..
08:57:00 pm LnDDave: A2) I’ve seen plenty of informal mentoring relationships that are never labeled as such; they’re often the most valuable. #lrnchat
08:57:10 pm eLearninCyclops: Q2) Helps when org encourages mentorships and provides time & resources for it to work #lrnchat
08:57:21 pm LnDDave: RT @eLearninCyclops: Q2) Helps when org encourages mentorships and provides time & resources for it to work #lrnchat
08:57:25 pm MMTingley: Q2) Just finished writing a program on coaching for managers: ongoing support and feedback for long term success
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08:57:28 pm AllisonAnderson: A2) I had a great coach. He pushed me 2see capabilities I’d not seen in myself, poked when necessary and encouraged when needed. #lrnchat
08:57:29 pm edCetraT: Q1) i mentor my husband and it all works just fine :) #lrnchat
08:57:33 pm MichelleLBaker: Oy.RT @jd_dillon: A2) 1 employer used “coaching” for negtv. entries on employee records.How do you think the term was perceived? #lrnchat
08:57:34 pm theASIDEblog: We’ve mentored and coached many. What makes it work is building a collaborative trust that we are on level playing fields. #lrnchat
08:57:39 pm cdna_OrgDev: @JD_Dillon yes. Most employees’ fear of being fired prevented them from learning the best way they could. #lrnchat
08:57:46 pm chet_stevenson: Q2) Mentoring that I’ve seen be successful started with mutual trust and respect. I believe that is the foundation. #lrnchat
08:58:19 pm Tracy_Parish: A2) I had a mentor that motivated me, helped me to know nothing was beyond reach, celebrated my successes, and advised on mistakes #lrnchat
08:58:25 pm cdna_OrgDev: @MMTingley I’m a big believer in participative leadership/communication. It works better when conversation is two-way #lrnchat
08:58:37 pm JD_Dillon: @cdna_OrgDev and then they got fired anyway bc they didn’t understand the role or perform due to lack of learning, right? #lrnchat
08:58:38 pm LnDDave: A2) Mentoring works best when it focuses on both Professional AND Personal development. #lrnchat
08:58:51 pm theASIDEblog: As coaches we sharpen skills, as mentors we provide guidance and act as sounding board. #lrnchat
08:59:02 pm denniscallahan: Q2) some of the most successful example I’ve seen don’t apply the mentor label, just natural #lrnchat
08:59:03 pm reubentozman: @Tracy_Parish Was it me? #Lrnchat
08:59:20 pm eLearninCyclops: Q2) Good mentor has always “raised the bar.” #lrnchat
08:59:27 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q2 in a way an org’s on-boarding process is mentoring scale, providing resources for the future; up to worker to run with..
08:59:30 pm MichelleLBaker: Q2) Best coaching relationships are ones not trying to be a “training replacement”. Different approach. Different solution. #lrnchat
08:59:30 pm stickylearning: Q2 agree w @ mentoring is often informal, self organised #lrnchat
08:59:38 pm Tracy_Parish: RT @edCetraT: Q1) i mentor my husband and it all works just fine :) #lrnchat…. NICE, I’m going to call it mentoring now too. :)
08:59:41 pm Nic_707: Finally here! Hello #lrnchat -ers
08:59:42 pm cdna_OrgDev: @JD_Dillon yes which ended up shaking the #culture up and creating more of a negative stigma towards it #lrnchat
08:59:51 pm LnDDave: A2) Good coaches and mentors know what to say; great coaches and mentors know when to say nothing and listen. #lrnchat
08:59:56 pm AllisonAnderson: Q2) There are people that have no idea that they’ve mentored me. But perhaps that’s a role model. #lrnchat
09:00:12 pm JD_Dillon: A2) Its much easier to identify a successful coaching experience than a successful mentoring relationship. #lrnchat
09:00:16 pm Tracy_Parish: RT @reubentozman: @Tracy_Parish Was it me? #Lrnchat You’re definitely one of mine.
09:00:16 pm theASIDEblog: The success of coaching or mentoring depends on the interaction between both parties. One should never be superior over the other. #lrnchat
09:00:32 pm msbolton1: Hi #lrnchat, Mary Bolton from West Virginia. I train, coach, and consult leaders in State government.
09:00:33 pm JD_Dillon: RT @LnDDave: A2) Good coaches and mentors know what to say; great coaches and mentors know when to say nothing and listen. #lrnchat
09:00:38 pm cdna_OrgDev: This is a great chat and I’m sad to say I have to head out.You are all amazing. Feel free to connect. See u next time #cdna #orgdev #lrnchat
09:00:41 pm Nic_707: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Have you ever seen a successful mentoring or coaching relationship? What made it work? #lrnchat
09:01:13 pm LnDDave: @cdna_OrgDev Thanks for joining the chat- see you next week! #lrnchat
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09:01:26 pm MMTingley: @MichelleLBaker Training is a (or series of) discrete topics. Coaching is ongoing.
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09:02:03 pm lrnchat: Q3) Who should choose the mentor/coach, the mentee/coachee or the organization? More importantly, Why? #lrnchat
09:02:12 pm theASIDEblog: Mentoring and coaching work best when there is a reciprocal relationship. #lrnchat
09:02:20 pm LnDDave: RT @theASIDEblog: Mentoring and coaching work best when there is a reciprocal relationship. #lrnchat
09:02:22 pm Tracy_Parish: RT @LnDDave: A2) Good coaches and mentors know what to say; great coaches &mentors know when to say nothing and listen. #lrnchat Spot On
09:02:35 pm urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q3) Who should choose the mentor/coach, the mentee/coachee or the organization? More importantly, Why? #lrnchat
09:02:36 pm theASIDEblog: Do we try to emulate mentors and idolize coaches? #lrnchat
09:02:38 pm JD_Dillon: RT @lrnchat: Q3) Who should choose the mentor/coach, the mentee/coachee or the organization? More importantly, Why? #lrnchat
09:02:38 pm reubentozman: There goes that joke but thnx RT @Tracy_Parish: RT @reubentozman: @Tracy_Parish Was it me? #Lrnchat Youre definitely one of mine. #Lrnchat
09:02:41 pm eLearninCyclops: Q2) When both parties know, or try their best to find out, the prodigy’s goals – 1st step to success #lrnchat
09:02:46 pm SeanPutman1: RT @lrnchat: Q3) Who should choose the mentor/coach, the mentee/coachee or the organization? More importantly, Why? #lrnchat
09:02:50 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @lrnchat: Q3) Who should choose the mentor/coach, the mentee/coachee or the organization? More importantly, Why? #lrnchat
09:03:00 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q3) Who should choose the mentor/coach, the mentee/coachee or the organization? More importantly, Why? #lrnchat
09:03:18 pm Nic_707: RT @lrnchat: Q3) Who should choose the mentor/coach, the mentee/coachee or the organization? More importantly, Why? #lrnchat
09:03:31 pm edCetraT: RT @LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q3) Who should choose the mentor/coach, the mentee/coachee or the organization? More importantly, Why? #lrnchat
09:03:59 pm reubentozman: Q3) I’m not sure mentors need to be explicitly chosen. And why does this matter? #Lrnchat
09:04:11 pm JD_Dillon: A3) Often a mentee must find the right-fit mentor while the org can designate coaches based on skill. #lrnchat
09:04:13 pm SeanPutman1: Q3)I think the mentor and mentee choose together. there has to be the trust, respect and give and take between them #lrnchat
09:04:20 pm LnDDave: A3) There really is no choosing of a coach. It’s based on the supervisor/direct report relationship. #lrnchat
09:04:22 pm Nic_707: Q3) A combination! All parties have to be on board for it to be successful #lrnchat
09:04:34 pm theASIDEblog: Mentors are softer than coaches. You emulate mentors whereas you work for coaches to improve your skills. #lrnchat
09:04:36 pm eLearninCyclops: Q3) Sometime the relationship just evolves without any intent on any1’s part. #lrnchat
09:04:42 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q3 it’s like in McCaffrey’s Dragon Riders of Pern. Mentor and mentee impress on each other when they first meet.
09:04:51 pm JD_Dillon: A3) Both coaches and mentors must fit their audiences. #lrnchat
09:05:15 pm WRApioneers: Admissions officers @WRApioneers pair students with their mentors based on shared interests and experiences. #Lrnchat
09:05:22 pm LnDDave: A3) Mentors can be chosen by mentee or matched up by an org. I don’t think a mentor should choose their mentee though. #lrnchat
09:05:23 pm JD_Dillon: A3) Players usually don’t get to pick the coach, unless you’re Dwight Howard. #lrnchat
09:05:25 pm theASIDEblog: We tend to pick mentors, but we assign coaches. #lrnchat
09:05:43 pm denniscallahan: Q3) depends – i have mentors/coaches who don’t even know they are my mentors/coaches #lrnchat
09:06:09 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q3 about coach, can’t really say. Either the last time i had was too long ago to recollect or the memories too painful.
09:06:14 pm theASIDEblog: @JD_Dillon Agree, but we tend to fit mentors with mentees, but assign coaches. #lrnchat
09:06:26 pm reubentozman: Exactly ! RT @denniscallahan: Q3) depends – i have mentors/coaches who dont even know they are my mentors/coaches #Lrnchat
09:06:42 pm edCetraT: RT @denniscallahan: Q3) depends – i have mentors/coaches who dont even know they are my mentors/coaches #lrnchat
09:06:48 pm JD_Dillon: @theASIDEblog Agreed! #lrnchat
09:07:10 pm Nic_707: @eLearninCyclops Q3) Sometime the relationship just evolves <- Love this! How often you seen this? #lrnchat
09:07:40 pm SeanPutman1: @LnDDave Maybe chosen is the wrong word, but there has to be the level of trust and respect for the relationship to work #lrnchat
09:08:44 pm WRApioneers: @denniscallahan That’s esp. true in a school setting. #Lrnchat
09:08:45 pm reubentozman: @WRApioneers are they mentors or coaches and how do you differentiate? #Lrnchat
09:08:49 pm JD_Dillon: A3) Consider Mr. Miyagi from ‘The Karate Kid.’ They didn’t really pick each other but an amazing mentor relationship! #lrnchat
09:08:56 pm MariaOD: RT @lrnchat: Q3) Who should choose the mentor/coach, the mentee/coachee or the organization? More importantly, Why? #lrnchat
09:09:18 pm CandiceCPLP: Q3 a knowledgable HR rep, able to chk refs, understand programs. Mentee should be able to change if no rapport develops #lrnchat
09:09:58 pm reubentozman: @JD_Dillon Ummm…you are aware that was fiction ;) wax on wax off #Lrnchat
09:10:00 pm andrearist: Q1) mentors tell, coaches ask #lrnchat
09:10:03 pm LnDDave: A3) what’s unfortunate is that many mentor relationships get strained once it moves from informal to formal. #lrnchat
09:10:15 pm eLearninCyclops: @Nic_707 I have seen it (evolving mentorship) happen more @ orgs without set mentor program. & w my old boss (still mentor) #lrnchat
09:10:56 pm reubentozman: @JD_Dillon I see an entire Lrnchat based on lessons from the Karate Kid mind you #Lrnchat
09:10:58 pm JD_Dillon: @reubentozman who wouldnt kill to have their own Mr. Miyagi! everyone needs a little crane technique. #lrnchat
09:11:07 pm CandiceCPLP: Q2 yes, mostly the mentee’s commitment. #lrnchat -sorry for delay !
09:11:37 pm eLearninCyclops: Q3) Alexander’s father picked his mentor (Aristotle), it worked out pretty well #philospherking #lrnchat
09:11:42 pm lrnchat: Q4) How do mentoring and coaching support reflective learning? #lrnchat
09:12:04 pm denniscallahan: @LnDDave – yes, I’m seen the informal relationship work out better #lrnchat
09:12:04 pm jbuonora: People learn best when getting coached not managed #lrnchat #edchat it’s an all day process
09:12:08 pm LnDDave: A3) a mentee should have say on their mentor to ensure the person matches the needs of their future path. #lrnchat
09:12:10 pm MMTingley: Q3) If informal mentor is best, how to convince Sr. ppl to invest time in ppl who are not direct reports?
#lrnchat
09:12:15 pm lodtrain: @lrnchat you should choose your mentor. At work we have a self guided approach with info materials and best practices #lrnchat
09:12:21 pm JD_Dillon: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do mentoring and coaching support reflective learning? #lrnchat
09:12:28 pm SeanPutman1: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do mentoring and coaching support reflective learning? #lrnchat
09:12:42 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do mentoring and coaching support reflective learning? #lrnchat
09:12:46 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do mentoring and coaching support reflective learning? #lrnchat
09:12:50 pm denniscallahan: @WRApioneers – i think it’s the same in corporate too #lrnchat
09:13:00 pm Nic_707: @reubentozman @JD_Dillon <– haha – I would love to see this too #lrnchat
09:13:10 pm Nic_707: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do mentoring and coaching support reflective learning? #lrnchat
09:13:37 pm MichelleLBaker: Yes, grasshopper! RT @jd_dillon: Consider Mr. Miyagi frm The Karate Kid. Didn’t pick each other but an amazing mentor relationship! #lrnchat
09:14:04 pm JD_Dillon: A4) Coaching is based on specific past execution, analysis of outcomes, and correction of behaviors/skills. #lrnchat
09:14:40 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @JD_Dillon: A4) Coaching is based on specific past execution, analysis of outcomes, and correction of behaviors/skills. #lrnchat
09:14:41 pm urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q4) How do mentoring and coaching support reflective learning? #lrnchat
09:14:44 pm reubentozman: Q4) both mentors and coaches are interested 3rd parties who can provide biased feedback for you #Lrnchat
09:14:48 pm JD_Dillon: @Nic_707 @reubentozman I’m all for it and will even wear the headband! #lrnchat
09:14:52 pm jbuonora: Best coaches I’ve ever had encouraged me that it’s ok to make mistakes and we learn from “failing” #lrnchat #edchat #astd
09:15:25 pm theASIDEblog: Organizations generally choose coaches and mentors. Sshould mentees/coachees have a say? #lrnchat
09:15:27 pm Nic_707: @MMTingley Q3) If informal mentor is best, how to convince Sr. ppl to invest time in ppl who are not direct reports? <–great Q #lrnchat
09:15:30 pm msbolton1: A3) Many managers seek their own coach. #lrnchat
09:15:36 pm urbie: #lrnchat @MMTingley if informal best why wait for leadership/senior ppl to make it happen? can’t it happen on the line, trenches casually?
09:15:41 pm LnDDave: A4) Coaching should be built on reflective learning; it’s based on discussing past and planning future performance. #lrnchat
09:15:47 pm AllisonAnderson: A4) a mentor can help you digest, analyze, try and adjust over the long haul. Safe place 2fail. Coach will b more corrective. #lrnchat
09:15:51 pm denniscallahan: Q4) mentoring is highly reflective by not providing answers but items to consider, other points of view, etc #lrnchat
09:15:58 pm LnDDave: RT @JD_Dillon: A4) Coaching is based on specific past execution, analysis of outcomes, and correction of behaviors/skills. #lrnchat
09:16:11 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q4 suppose that reflection in a coaching relationship can happen when you’re down mending hamstrings..
09:16:46 pm SeanPutman1: Q4)Mentors and coaches can provide the sounding board and give feedback making the mentee think about past actions #lrnchat
09:16:53 pm SeanPutman1: RT @LnDDave: A4) Coaching should be built on reflective learning; its based on discussing past and planning future performance. #lrnchat
09:16:56 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q4 mentoring supports reflective learning because at each step the mentee/learner decides which track to take; mentor doesn’t point
09:17:27 pm MMTingley: @urbie If Sr leaders think it’s a good use of their time. How many do?
#lrnchat
09:17:34 pm reubentozman: RT @SeanPutman1: Q4)Mentors and coaches can provide the sounding board and give feedback making the mentee think about past actions #Lrnchat
09:17:44 pm AllisonAnderson: RT @SeanPutman1: Q4)Mentors and coaches can provide the sounding board and give feedback making the mentee think about past actions #lrnchat
09:17:55 pm LnDDave: A4) Both mentoring and coaching require examining lessons learned from experiences. #lrnchat
09:18:04 pm reubentozman: RT @AllisonAnderson: A4) a mentor can help you digest, analyze, try and adjust over the long haul. Coach will b more corrective. #Lrnchat
09:18:34 pm LnDDave: RT @SeanPutman1: Q4)Mentors and coaches can provide the sounding board and give feedback making the mentee think about past actions #lrnchat
09:18:51 pm urbie: @MMTingley #lrnchat at my level i don’t see sr leadership. i have heard they go off to mountaintop retreats, sequestered like..
09:19:26 pm WRApioneers: @LnDDave Expertise plays a role as well.
#Lrnchat
09:19:52 pm LnDDave: A4) we often don’t take time to reflect; coaching and mentoring add dedicated time for reflection to our calendar. #lrnchat
09:20:27 pm denniscallahan: Q4) space to discuss and think through failures #lrnchat
09:20:29 pm theASIDEblog: Coaches work on weaknesses, mentors work on guidance. #lrnchat
09:20:55 pm theASIDEblog: Coaches work on skill sets, mentors work on guidance and leadership. #lrnchat
09:20:56 pm Quinnovator: Q4: communicating to coach/mentor requires extra processing of situation to communicate #lrnchat (on ground in ORD for a short time)
09:21:28 pm lrnchat: Q5) Is learning a natural result of mentoring/coaching, or does there need to be a specific focus on learning? Why? #lrnchat
09:21:46 pm AllisonAnderson: RT @LnDDave: A4) we often dont take time 2reflect; coaching and mentoring add dedicated time for reflection to our calendar..LIKE!
#lrnchat
09:22:01 pm SeanPutman1: RT @lrnchat: Q5) Is learning a natural result of mentoring/coaching, or does there need to be a specific focus on learning? Why? #lrnchat
09:22:04 pm Quinnovator: Q4: feedback from coach/mentor requires extra processing to incorporate #lrnchat
09:22:04 pm LnDDave: RT @denniscallahan: Q4) space to discuss and think through failures #lrnchat
09:22:24 pm Nic_707: RT @lrnchat: Q5) Is learning a natural result of mentoring/coaching, or does there need to be a specific focus on learning? Why? #lrnchat
09:22:26 pm theASIDEblog: Mentors are someone you seek for counsel and direction. Coaches look to refine strengths and weaknesses. #lrnchat
09:22:30 pm eLearninCyclops: Q4) Mentor lends an ear, discusses successes & failure. And they travel along w u, not just pt. the way #lrnchat
09:22:40 pm JD_Dillon: RT @lrnchat: Q5) Is learning a natural result of mentoring/coaching, or does there need to be a specific focus on learning? Why? #lrnchat
09:22:43 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @lrnchat: Q5) Is learning a natural result of mentoring/coaching, or does there need to be a specific focus on learning? Why? #lrnchat
09:22:48 pm reubentozman: Q5) learning happens anytime anywhere…it’s a continuous process. No need for specific focus on learning #Lrnchat
09:22:52 pm AllisonAnderson: @Quinnovator Welcome friend! Happy Layover! #lrnchat
09:23:09 pm WRApioneers: @Quinnovator We need to take the reflective time to process action. #Lrnchat
09:23:11 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q5) Is learning a natural result of mentoring/coaching, or does there need to be a specific focus on learning? Why? #lrnchat
09:23:14 pm urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q5) Is learning a natural result of mentoring/coaching, or does there need to be a specific focus on learning? Why? #lrnchat
09:23:18 pm msbolton1: A3) management should monitor the mentee/mentor relationship and coach where possible. #lrnchat
09:23:22 pm reubentozman: Q5) but good coaches and mentors help us be better #Lrnchat
09:23:38 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @reubentozman: Q5) learning happens anytime anywhere…its a continuous process. No need for specific focus on learning #lrnchat
09:23:40 pm LnDDave: A4) a good coach/mentor doesn’t simply provide answers; they let you explore and work out the answer on your own. #lrnchat
09:23:55 pm SeanPutman1: Q5) Learning should b a natural result. The Mentee should hopefully b learning from the mentor/coaches experience, past mistakes #lrnchat
09:23:56 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q5) Is learning a natural result of mentoring/coaching, or does there need to be a specific focus on learning? Why? #lrnchat
09:23:58 pm Nic_707: RT @reubentozman: Q5) learning happens anytime anywhere…it’s a continuous process. No need for specific focus on learning #Lrnchat
09:24:08 pm LnDDave: RT @Quinnovator: Q4: feedback from coach/mentor requires extra processing to incorporate #lrnchat
09:24:18 pm SeanPutman1: RT @reubentozman: Q5) learning happens anytime anywhere…its a continuous process. No need for specific focus on learning #lrnchat
09:24:32 pm JD_Dillon: A5) Quality coaching and mentoring result in improved outcomes, which require learning to take place naturally. #lrnchat
09:24:53 pm Quinnovator: Q5: Feedback needs to aligned with performance, consciously or not :) #lrnchat
09:25:01 pm HCESCgifted: RT @rpetersmauri: Hop on the infographic trend and easily make your own. Great for students! http://t.co/Z0fO5D3J #edtech #lrnchat #elemchat #library #sachat
09:25:04 pm Nic_707: @LnDDave A4) a good coach/mentor doesn’t simply provide answers; they let you explore and work out the answer on your own <–agree #Lrnchat
09:25:05 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q5 learning is natural result of paying attention, practice, satisfaction. if they’re present in mentor/coach experience then yes.
09:25:15 pm denniscallahan: RT @JD_Dillon: A5) Quality coaching and mentoring result in improved outcomes, which require learning to take place naturally. #lrnchat
09:25:18 pm LnDDave: A5) coaching requires a specific learning focus; it’s task based and should lead to a path of competency. #lrnchat
09:25:23 pm reubentozman: Q5) especially in an org, it’s about performance. Focus on that and learning will happen. #Lrnchat
09:25:23 pm MichelleLBaker: Q5) Learning can be a natural outcome of coaching/mentoring. Still want to make the link back to performance, though! #lrnchat
09:25:44 pm Quinnovator: @AllisonAnderson nice to be able to drop in, and see friends like you! #lrnchat
09:26:55 pm JD_Dillon: A5) Let’s focus on accomplishments and let learning happen. #lrnchat
09:27:05 pm reubentozman: @LnDDave But don’t you think focus should be on the competency. Wouldn’t learning be a natural result one way or the other? #Lrnchat
09:27:28 pm AllisonAnderson: A5) Mentoring=long term/less focused. Coaching=impactful if you are going 4a targeted goal. #lrnchat
09:27:44 pm reubentozman: RT @JD_Dillon: A5) Lets focus on accomplishments and let learning happen. #Lrnchat
09:28:33 pm PDin140orLESS: RT @theASIDEblog: Mentors are someone you seek for counsel and direction. Coaches look to refine strengths and weaknesses. #lrnchat
09:28:37 pm MMTingley: Q5) Learning can come from bouncing ideas off a person. A good coach makes her/himself available for that.
#lrnchat
09:28:55 pm LnDDave: @reubentozman ultimately yes, but many managers don’t grasp competency well. #lrnchat
09:29:17 pm MichelleLBaker: RT @MMTingley: Q5) Learning can come from bouncing ideas off a person. A good coach makes her/himself available for that. #lrnchat
09:30:00 pm MMTingley: A5) I also see mentoring largely about access to resources (connections and knowledge. #lrnchat
09:30:25 pm WRApioneers: Teachers are coaches and mentors both! #Lrnchat
09:30:27 pm MichelleLBaker: Indeed… RT @LnDDave: @reubentozman ultimately yes, but many managers dont grasp competency well. #lrnchat
09:30:55 pm edCetraT: q5) i think Google has proven that we don’t need to put any focus on learning. it just happens #lrnchat
09:31:10 pm urbie: #lrnchat tangent question.. some teachers have a podium (sage on the stage), coaches have clipboards. what does a mentor have?
09:31:14 pm Nic_707: Delaying meetings so I can stay on #lrnchat … mostly successful
09:31:19 pm LnDDave: RT @MMTingley: A5) I also see mentoring largely about access to resources (connections and knowledge. #lrnchat
09:31:23 pm andrearist: #lrnchat Q5) if the goal is to get better at something, and the mentor/coach enables this, learning by doing is a focus
09:31:52 pm AllisonAnderson: A5) If I am reflecting (per Q4) then I’m most likely focused on goal. But I can still get a lot out of a cup o’ coffee w/ mentor. #lrnchat
09:32:17 pm msbolton1: A4) a good coach guides mentee’s to self discovery through thought provoking questions #lrnchat
09:32:18 pm urbie: #lrnchat @reubentozman @lnddave competency is variable, analog.. on a continuum.. not just one competency.. unless just doing proves comp.
09:32:30 pm denniscallahan: @LnDDave @reubentozman – competency is more of an HR term, everyone understands output, performance #lrnchat
09:32:32 pm lrnchat: Q6) Are mentoring / coaching relationships strictly 1:1? Are there ways that mentoring/coaching can be scaled?#lrnchat
09:33:05 pm JD_Dillon: RT @lrnchat: Q6) Are mentoring / coaching relationships strictly 1:1? Are there ways that mentoring/coaching can be scaled?#lrnchat #lrnchat
09:33:14 pm SeanPutman1: RT @lrnchat: Q6) Are mentoring / coaching relationships strictly 1:1? Are there ways that mentoring/coaching can be scaled?#lrnchat #lrnchat
09:33:40 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @lrnchat: Q6) Are mentoring / coaching relationships strictly 1:1? Are there ways that mentoring/coaching can be scaled? #lrnchat
09:34:04 pm SeanPutman1: Q6)They can absolutely be scaled, many people are mentors/coaches to more than one person. #lrnchat
09:34:16 pm MichelleLBaker: Q6) An active PLN is proof that 1:many can work for mentoring/coaching… #lrnchat
09:34:17 pm reubentozman: Q6) technology has done a great job of enabling both to be scaled #Lrnchat
09:35:15 pm SeanPutman1: Q6)Through blogs, twitter, etc many people don’t know how many people they mentor #lrnchat
09:35:15 pm reubentozman: Q6) one word…YouTube #Lrnchat
09:35:19 pm MichelleLBaker: RT @denniscallahan: @LnDDave @reubentozman competency is more of an HR term, everyone understands output, performance<– seriously #lrnchat
09:35:20 pm denniscallahan: RT @MichelleLBaker: Q6) An active PLN is proof that 1:many can work for mentoring/coaching… #lrnchat
09:35:21 pm JD_Dillon: A6) Mentoring requires a distinct relationship and should be 1:1 IMO. Coaching can be effectively scaled. #lrnchat
09:35:25 pm LnDDave: A5) I think assuming coaching and mentoring results in learning assumes it is being done well; often, it’s not. #lrnchat
09:35:33 pm eLearninCyclops: Q6) Coaching easier 1 to many than mentoring, which takes more dedication/time #lrnchat
09:35:45 pm theASIDEblog: @PDin140orLESS The difference is minuscule. Both are crucial to learning and developing character. #lrnchat
09:35:47 pm urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q6) Are mentoring / coaching relationships strictly 1:1? Are there ways that mentoring/coaching can be scaled?#lrnchat
09:36:24 pm LnDDave: RT @MichelleLBaker: Q6) An active PLN is proof that 1:many can work for mentoring/coaching… #lrnchat
09:36:27 pm reubentozman: @LnDDave You can learn to do things wrong. Doesn’t mean your not learning #Lrnchat
09:36:31 pm LnDDave: RT @reubentozman: Q6) technology has done a great job of enabling both to be scaled #Lrnchat
09:36:37 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q5 mentoring relationships are 1:1.. you’re going to have some serious frank conversations. coaching is more open.
09:37:21 pm AllisonAnderson: A6) Probably scalable but it’s also going 2look different. #lrnchat
09:37:31 pm AlisonSeaman: RT @MichelleLBaker: Q6) An active PLN is proof that 1:many can work for mentoring/coaching… #lrnchat
09:37:38 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q5 s’pose you can scale mentoring (something to learn) via elearning or youtube. but it’s 1:1 in practice. it’s like a rule.
09:38:38 pm Nic_707: RT @MichelleLBaker: Q6) An active PLN is proof that 1:many can work for mentoring/coaching… #lrnchat
09:38:39 pm theASIDEblog: Mentoring and coaching are relationship based. Both require a degree of connection to be effective. #lrnchat
09:38:41 pm reubentozman: @urbie Disagree that mentoring is 1:1. There can be leaders on teams that are mentors to many #Lrnchat
09:38:56 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @LnDDave: RT @reubentozman: Q6) tech has done great job of enabling both to be scaled | Allows for distance, but larger ratio? #lrnchat
09:38:58 pm LnDDave: @reubentozman if I’m learning something because my coach tells me to without understanding why, my coach needs focus on learning. #lrnchat
09:40:40 pm Nic_707: RT @MichelleLBaker Q6) An active PLN is proof that 1:many can work for mentoring/coaching… #lrnchat
09:41:20 pm LnDDave: Q6) tech can extend my reach to many, but coaching and mentoring still needs individual attention and interaction. #lrnchat
09:41:50 pm reubentozman: @LnDDave I see what u’r saying. In my reality tunnel, focus on performance means that as long as u’r doing it right who cares #Lrnchat
09:42:55 pm reubentozman: @LnDDave But I see your POV #Lrnchat
09:43:33 pm lrnchat: Q7) How can a coaching or mentorin program go wrong? What makes it fail? #lrnchat
09:44:05 pm SeanPutman1: @LnDDave There does need to be some interaction, but a blog post comment, a tweet can work to interact with more than 1 person #lrnchat
09:44:07 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @lrnchat: Q7) How can a coaching or mentorin program go wrong? What makes it fail? #lrnchat
09:44:10 pm urbie: RT @lrnchat: Q7) How can a coaching or mentorin program go wrong? What makes it fail? #lrnchat
09:44:15 pm SeanPutman1: RT @lrnchat: Q7) How can a coaching or mentorin program go wrong? What makes it fail? #lrnchat
09:44:18 pm JD_Dillon: RT @lrnchat: Q7) How can a coaching or mentorin program go wrong? What makes it fail? #lrnchat
09:44:42 pm JD_Dillon: A7) Lack of trust, buy-in, communication … So many things can go wrong! #lrnchat
09:44:52 pm urbie: been so long since i participated in #lrnchat .. were there always 7 questions???
09:45:10 pm MichelleLBaker: Q6) Every situation, ratio & relationship is unique. Doesn’t have to be traditional to be effective. #lrnchat
09:45:17 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: Q7) How can a coaching or mentorin program go wrong? What makes it fail? #lrnchat
09:45:39 pm denniscallahan: Q7) don’t rely too much on mentor, believe in yourself #lrnchat
09:45:49 pm urbie: #lrnchat Q7 hubris is the arch-enemy of coaching/mentoring.. on the part of either party.
09:45:53 pm eLearninCyclops: Q7) When it is a bad fit, but an artificial commitment has been made (e.g., set-up by org not participants) #lrnchat
09:45:54 pm SeanPutman1: Q7)Sure they can go wrong, if the respect/trust is lost in the relationship #lrnchat
09:46:12 pm AllisonAnderson: RT @urbie: been so long since i participated in #lrnchat .. were there always 7 questions??? Don’t think so – we are overachieving #lrnchat
09:46:13 pm reubentozman: Q7) bad eggs… #Lrnchat
09:46:20 pm MountTantiss: #edapp #edtech #education @Mayerjs #elearning #lrnchat #mlearning #teachers
09:46:26 pm LnDDave: Q7) when it is forced. #lrnchat
09:46:35 pm AllisonAnderson: RT @denniscallahan: Q7) dont rely too much on mentor, believe in yourself #lrnchat
09:46:37 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @SeanPutman1: Q7)Sure they can go wrong, if the respect/trust is lost in the relationship #lrnchat
09:47:29 pm LnDDave: @urbie the last few weeks we’ve tried more #lrnchat questions to keep things moving a bit. Thoughts?
09:47:32 pm urbie: #lrnchat after some reflection i think grammas are the archtypical mentors. might not be possible #fail with her but others, yes. b humble.
09:48:03 pm urbie: @LnDDave #lrnchat more is good. quantity goes up time commit doesn’t change that’s value!
09:48:05 pm edCetraT: q7) mentoring dissipates when there’s no longer shared beliefs #lrnchat
09:48:09 pm denniscallahan: Q7) Mentoring/Coaching is not a 1 way street #lrnchat
09:48:22 pm WRApioneers: A7) THe coach/mentor must be reflective in his role. #lrnchat
09:48:37 pm theASIDEblog: Things go wrong when there is a lack of trust. TRUST is key to any relationship for it to be honest. #lrnchat
09:49:19 pm denniscallahan: @LnDDave @urbie – I haven’t attended in a while either – I like having a few more questions
#lrnchat
09:49:49 pm AllisonAnderson: @LnDDave I like the add’l Q’s – unless we get on a real roll with the answers, in which case I think I’d choose depth over breadth #lrnchat
09:49:58 pm theASIDEblog: Mentors/Coaches should never see themselves as superior to those they are assigned to help. #lrnchat
09:50:03 pm ebradley07: What is the solution? RT @reubentozman: Q7) bad eggs… #Lrnchat
09:50:03 pm LnDDave: A7) when boundaries are crossed. #lrnchat
09:50:05 pm DanHirtEsq: Both parties need to put effort into the relationship. It shouldn’t be a compliance thing #lrnchat
09:50:51 pm reubentozman: RT @edCetraT: q7) mentoring dissipates when theres no longer shared beliefs #Lrnchat
09:51:31 pm theASIDEblog: Mentors/Coaches need to see that they could be wrong in their guidance and correct mistakes. #lrnchat
09:52:32 pm LnDDave: A7) when it shifts from something you want to do, to something you have to do. #lrnchat
09:53:02 pm SeanPutman1: RT @LnDDave: A7) when it shifts from something you want to do, to something you have to do. #lrnchat
09:53:14 pm JD_Dillon: RT @LnDDave: A7) when it shifts from something you want to do, to something you have to do. #lrnchat
09:53:35 pm reubentozman: RT @LnDDave: A7) when it shifts from something you want to do, to something you have to do. #Lrnchat
09:53:37 pm Dave_Ferguson: -@AllisonAnderson Re Qs, as Thurber said, it’s better to have some of the questions than all of the answers. #lrnchat
09:53:46 pm eLearninCyclops: RT @LnDDave: A7) when it shifts from something you want to do, to something you have to do. #lrnchat
09:53:59 pm theASIDEblog: Powerful exchange tonight on #lrnchat. Much appreciate the give and take. Thank you.
09:54:07 pm MichelleLBaker: @AllisonAnderson @LnDDave – Agree about the 7 Qs! Moderator needs to read the group – when to ask a new Q or keep a topic going. #lrnchat
09:54:30 pm lrnchat: QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourself. (Shameless plugs welcome.) #lrnchat
09:55:16 pm LnDDave: RT @lrnchat: QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourself. (Shameless plugs welcome.) #lrnchat
09:55:51 pm Quinnovator: Q7: goes wrong when culture isn’t aligned to individual improvement #lrnchat
09:56:04 pm lrnchat: Thanks for the feedback on number of questions folks. We’re always looking for ways to improve the chat. #lrnchat
09:56:07 pm Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave A7) when it shifts from something you want to do, to something you have to do. #lrnchat
09:56:12 pm urbie: @LnDDave disagree having to do is hard-stop. recalling mentor’s advice via higher-ed after 30 years denial.. #lrnchat .. i get it now..
09:56:22 pm LnDDave: RT @Quinnovator: Q7: goes wrong when culture isn’t aligned to individual improvement #lrnchat
09:56:24 pm urbie: RT @lrnchat: QWrap) It’s that time again. Please re-introduce yourself. (Shameless plugs welcome.) #lrnchat
09:56:49 pm reubentozman: Qwrap) Reuben Tozman will be @devlearn and Training2013. Book available at DevLearn. #Lrnchat
09:56:52 pm denniscallahan: Thx, enjoyed the discussion! Dennis Callahan Workplace Learning – http://t.co/mG8PvKLu #lrnchat
09:56:57 pm Quinnovator: Oh, well, got in a *little* #lrnchat
09:57:10 pm JD_Dillon: Qwrap) JD from Orlando, hosting webinar w/ @IntrepidLS Commitment to Organizational Creativity in September http://t.co/5MpxJ9wh #lrnchat
09:57:13 pm LnDDave: @urbie I agree – having to do it isn’t a hard-stop, but it opens the door to failures. #lrnchat
09:57:21 pm urbie: #lrnchat Qwrap urbie delgado, instructional designer, story as elearning best practice, competency one “once upon a time” at a time..
09:57:45 pm LnDDave: @reubentozman Nice! I didn’t know the book release date was set. Congrats! #lrnchat
09:58:23 pm SeanPutman1: Thanks all for a great chat! Sean Putman, Director of Training & Doc’s, outside Detroit. Speaking @devlearn see you all there #lrnchat
09:58:25 pm DanHirtEsq: New to the conversation and the industry. Started a podcast to learn what i can. http://t.co/7Q4iHzEN #lrnchat
09:58:27 pm LnDDave: QWrap) David Kelly from NY. Join me at next week’s #Chat2lrn discussing backchannel learning. Details here: http://t.co/vcnN514n #lrnchat
09:58:51 pm reubentozman: @LnDDave Yeah…goes to printing September 10. #Lrnchat
09:59:21 pm LnDDave: Thanks everyone for a great chat. Tell your friends to join us next week, same bat time, same bat channel… #lrnchat
09:59:21 pm MichelleLBaker: Michelle from #Indy, signing out. Thanks for a great chat, everyone! http://t.co/QHjDaJJh #lrnchat
09:59:35 pm SeanPutman1: RT@reubentozman:Qwrap) Reuben Tozman will be @devlearn and Training2013. Book available @ DevLearn. >Good Stuff! Look forward to it #lrnchat
09:59:39 pm MMTingley: Melissa Tingley, eLearning ID and general edu-geek, Boston. Happy to have made it back to #lrnchat
09:59:40 pm LnDDave: RT @reubentozman: @LnDDave Yeah…goes to printing September 10. #Lrnchat << PRINTING? They still PRINT books? ;-)
10:00:11 pm reubentozman: Qwrap) check out http://t.co/1NwBRATj for some innovative ways to manage your ppt content #Lrnchat
10:00:13 pm AllisonAnderson: Qwrap) Allison in Oregon. Nice tweeting w/you all. Have a good trip CQ! Will see some of u @DevLearn! #lrnchat
10:00:28 pm edCetraT: Thanks everyone.have a good night!
#lrnchat
10:00:35 pm LnDDave: @MMTingley We’re happy to have you here. You always have great insights. Hope to see you again soon. #lrnchat
10:00:45 pm reubentozman: @LnDDave Lol,….available as ebook also #Lrnchat
10:00:53 pm lrnchat: Goodnight everyone. See you next week, August 30th, 8:30pm EST / 5:30pm PST. #lrnchat
10:01:00 pm TradeEthically: RT @denniscallahan: Thx, enjoyed the discussion! Dennis Callahan Workplace Learning – http://t.co/mG8PvKLu #lrnchat
10:01:19 pm reubentozman: @AllisonAnderson Your at DevLearn? Awesome. Been a long time since I saw u last #Lrnchat
10:01:42 pm eLearninCyclops: Qwrqp) Jeff Goldman – elearning designer. Thx for the gr8 #lrnchat
10:03:16 pm MMTingley: @LnDDave So nice :) #lrnchat

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