Transcript 4-March 2010 (late)

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08:30:10 pm lrnchat: Welcome everyone to #lrnchat. How have you been? Q0 warm up after the rules.
08:31:01 pm moehlert: @lrnchat Good and how have you been? I understand there was a troll sighting…. #lrnchat
08:31:03 pm Quinnovator: time for #lrnchat, beware the next 90 mins of tweetstream, beware or join in!
08:31:14 pm tmiket: @MichaelMcCurry Welcome Michael Fasten your seat belt as we prepare for takeoff! #lrnchat
08:31:18 pm mellissalast: HAHA! Love it! RT @philipgreen: Sorry I missed #lrnchat today; I was busy training (mediating learning?)
08:31:27 pm kelly_smith01: Q0 Fine. How have you been #lrnchat with a double shift today? #lrnchat
08:31:35 pm lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1) Introduce yourself. (We do this again at the end). Location? Focus? Fave topics?
08:31:52 pm JaneBozarth: I am good, thanks. Have been listening to “Harry Potters” in the car, which has been quite fun. #lrnchat
08:32:06 pm oxala75: a #lrnchat troll?
08:32:10 pm roninchef: Next 90 minutes I will be chillaxing with my internet friends in #lrnchat
08:32:11 pm kristineshaheen: Q0 Doing well. Adapting to unemployment / transition. Have a few interesting opportunities to explore. Standard “change stress”. #lrnchat
08:32:25 pm lrnchat: 2) [try to] stay on the #lrnchat topic. A new question will be asked every 20 min or so. If you can, include Q# in related responses.
08:32:28 pm MichaelMcCurry: Mike McCurry, Experient, Chicago, Interested in Learning and building relationships #lrnchat
08:32:33 pm moehlert: Dear People Who Follow Me: Next 90 mins will be #lrnchat. Lots of tweets on learning and training. Join in!
08:32:36 pm JaneBozarth: RDU. ID/Trainer/Author/Doctor of Learnin’ stuff. Positive deviant, constructive heretic, really white teeth.#lrnchat
08:32:56 pm moehlert: RT @lrnchat: Rules for #lrnchat: 1) Introduce yourself. (We do this again at the end). Location? Focus? Fave topics?
08:33:03 pm kristineshaheen: Q1) Christine Shaheen. Toronto, Canada. Experience in reference development, webinars, facillitation. Taking my Cert. in Adult Ed. #lrnchat
08:33:06 pm hjarche: @kristineshaheen I’ve been unemployed for 7 yrs #lrnchat
08:33:10 pm niccinh: Nicci here from gorgeous Lake Tahoe. Into sales and marketing performance improvement. #lrnchat
08:33:28 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, learning experience design conspirator, blogger, consultant, author, writer, Walnut Creek CA #lrnchat
08:33:38 pm higgteach: Dear People Who Follow Me (though you are few and far between): Next 90 mins will be #lrnchat. Join in….if you dare!
08:33:40 pm SueSchnorr: 1. Sue Schnorr, Instructional Design Consultant, Rochester, NY — fav topic social media drives learning
#lrnchat
08:33:46 pm Schnicker: Heading in to #lrnchat , excuse my tweets for the next wee while or you’re welcome to join in.. :o)
08:33:48 pm kristineshaheen: @hjarche lol Ah, Harold. I have to admit that’s the eventual dream! #lrnchat
08:33:50 pm moehlert: @lrnchat Mark Oehlert. Outside Washington DC. Social Media/Learning, Anthropologist, Historian, Virtual Worlds and DOD Guy #lrnchat
08:33:51 pm jaycross: Jay Cross. Berkeley, California. Writing a paper on how to tell the difference between informal learning & snake oil. #lrnchat
08:33:52 pm lrnchat: 3) When writing, complete thoughts help followers outside chat learn from you. #lrnchat
08:33:55 pm mpetersell: Hi all! Mike from Connecticut; focused these days on using yammer to share info with managers in my company; howdy! #lrnchat
08:34:16 pm oxala75: craig wiggins, elearning jockey for the fed’rul gubmint. Metropolitan Washington DC. Poking complacent vision with a pointy stick. #lrnchat
08:34:30 pm jwillensky: Jason Willensky, freelance ID, Phoenix, AZ, scrambling to meet deadlines #lrnchat
08:34:30 pm lrnchat: 4) Remember to include the #lrnchat in all posts. http://tweetchat.com http://tweetgrid.com & http://twubs.com/lrnchat work well.
08:34:37 pm ThomasStone: Good evening everyone on #lrnchat this evening! Thomas Stone here, from Element K, in Rochester, NY.
08:34:38 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, ISD Consultant, Texas, Favorite topic — Gilbert and Sullivan
#lrnchat
08:34:39 pm Quinnovator: @niccinh was just in Lake Tahoe this past weekend; *great* snow! #lrnchat
08:34:41 pm moehlert: RT @lrnchat: 2) [try to] stay on the #lrnchat topic. new question will b asked every 20 min or so. If u can, include Q# in rel responses.
08:34:41 pm ADDIE_ID: ADDIE, Death Valley, hangin’ with Elvis, confusing process with model for 50 years. #lrnchat
08:34:46 pm moehlert: RT @lrnchat: 3) When writing, complete thoughts help followers outside chat learn from you. #lrnchat
08:34:48 pm DavidAKnopf: 1) David Knopf, San Francisco, beating sense into learners for 30 years now … #lrnchat
08:34:55 pm jaycross: Folks, #lrnchat is here. The weekly confab of people who think about the process of learning. Expect a few weird posts. #lrnchat
08:35:02 pm higgteach: Andrea in Ontario, elementary teacher #lrnchat
08:35:02 pm Quinnovator: and don’t forget the Official #lrnchat Drinking Game ™: http://lrnchatdrinkinggame.wikispaces.com/
08:35:06 pm gminks: gina from FLA living outside Boston, doing social media for an edu dept in a high tech company & finishing my grad degree #lrnchat
08:35:10 pm BertBates: howdy there #lrnchat -ians. 1st whack: Training for new PBX will fail. Learning the new PBX cuz the the boss’s wife’s on hold will succeed
08:35:16 pm Schnicker: Nicole Fougere, mountain biking, snowboarding, learning topic blogger for @Litmos LMS in Auckland, NZ #lrnchat
08:35:20 pm KoreenOlbrish: Koreen Olbrish of Tandem Learning, recovering ID, wanna be writer, big ring lover, social networking fool, just west of Philly #lrnchat
08:35:21 pm niccinh: @Quinnovator This weekend’s snow will be even better! Plus it’s Snowfest. Fun. #lrnchat
08:35:28 pm minutebio: Jeff Goldman, Baltimore, MD. e-Learning Designer and occasional classroom trainer, when they let me. #lrnchat
08:35:30 pm hjarche: I’m Harold, from downtown Sackville, New Brunswick, Canada, pop. 5K #lrnchat
08:35:31 pm nickfloro: Hi all, designing and building tools and apps for learning, games, tech, mobile, video in WashX, PA. #lrnchat
08:35:31 pm JaneBozarth: LOL RT @DavidAKnopf David Knopf, San Francisco, beating sense into learners for 30 years now … #lrnchat
08:35:32 pm jwillensky: @Schnicker You are coming at us from the future. I love that. #lrnchat
08:35:37 pm moehlert: RT @ADDIE_ID: ADDIE, Death Valley, hangin’ with Elvis, confusing process with model for 50 years. #lrnchat Awesome
08:35:38 pm corksea: Hello #lrnchat! Sarah, the Oregon coast. Math and online learning, mostly, but I’m new as a professional, so networking as well.
08:35:39 pm kristineshaheen: Q1) Interested in working with an young socmed friendly organization supportive of Learning and employing industry best practices. #lrnchat
08:35:43 pm odguru: Christy Pettit, Guelph,Canada lrnchatting for the next while sorry for the deluge #lrnchat
08:35:46 pm KoreenOlbrish: oooh, its jumping here tonight! Sweeet!
#lrnchat
08:35:51 pm MichaelMcCurry: I am inviting my friends from #eventprofs to join this chat… I think its gonna be good! #lrnchat
08:35:51 pm roninchef: Mason Masteka eLearning Curriculum Dev in Portland, ME. Open Source livin’ and learnin’. This week I am also a parsnip. #lrnchat
08:35:54 pm lrnchat: 5) Periodically RT questions so others outside #lrnchat know what you’re talking about & they can chime in too.
08:35:55 pm Quinnovator: and congrats to those who led and participated in the EU #lrnchat this morning; great showing it appeared (I saved myself for you all ;)
08:36:07 pm gminks: ok who is @ADDIE_ID #lrnchat
08:36:19 pm moehlert: RT @lrnchat: 4) Remember 2 include the #lrnchat in posts. http://tweetchat.com http://tweetgrid.com & http://twubs.com/lrnchat work well.
08:36:21 pm tmiket: Mike Taylor from Columbus, OH Good to be with the good people of #lrnchat
08:36:32 pm rjpanetti: Robert Panetti, learningpro, SoMe aficianado, creative destroyer of ignorance.. #lrnchat
08:36:46 pm TerrenceWing: Terrence Wing from Los Angeles, CA – Leadership and Management Dev
#lrnchat
08:36:46 pm kellygarber: @gminks a drinker, I’m thinkin … #lrnchat
08:36:46 pm ADDIE_ID: @jwillensky And I am coming to you from the past. #lrnchat
08:36:52 pm lrnchat: 6) On #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm & irony welcome though. Really.
08:36:55 pm jaycross: RT @gminks: ok who is @ADDIE_ID | Gina, failed lock-step design method.
#lrnchat
08:37:07 pm hjarche: @gminks @ADDIE_ID is dead, so don’t worry about it ;) #lrnchat
08:37:18 pm gminks: @kellygarber gotta love that! #lrnchat
08:37:22 pm SuzNet: Suzanne Choma Learning & Performance consultant, Rochester NY #lrnchat
08:37:25 pm moehlert: @corksea Ooh! Where on Orgeon Coast? Went to grad school at OSU #lrnchat
08:37:32 pm moehlert: RT @lrnchat: 5) Periodically RT questions so others outside #lrnchat know what you’re talking about & they can chime in too.
08:37:37 pm moehlert: RT @lrnchat: 6) On #lrnchat we aim to play nice. Sarcasm & irony welcome though. Really.
08:37:41 pm gminks: yall are KILLIN ME!!! :D #lrnchat
08:37:43 pm MichaelMcCurry: so what is our topic… I am new to this? #lrnchat
08:37:48 pm Schnicker: @jwillensky Rest assured that Friday is a great day! #lrnchat
08:37:50 pm roninchef: @Quinnovator The EU feed throws me into some kind of temporal displacement. Second week in a row I did a “Wait, what?!” #lrnchat
08:37:52 pm chrisstjohn: Chris St.John – Free Range Federali & Conference Mgr @ the Walmart of Learning (DAU) #lrnchat
08:37:54 pm LauraMattis: Laura from No. VA. Sales, training, & mgmt profressional; client/account mgr, proj mgr, leader, trainer, assist w/design & dev too #lrnchat
08:37:58 pm Quinnovator: @jaycross snake oil smells better than the faux social learning gurus? #lrnchat
08:38:07 pm jwillensky: @ADDIE_ID Well bless your dead little heart! #lrnchat
08:38:13 pm moehlert: @ADDIE_ID No. Not the past. You are all too with us in the present. ;-) @jwillensky #lrnchat
08:38:17 pm gminks: RT @Schnicker: @jwillensky Rest assured that Friday is a great day! #lrnchat
08:38:21 pm jaycross: RT @gminks: yall are KILLIN ME!!! :D Love the new picture, Gina #lrnchat
08:38:36 pm lrnchat: Q0 (our weekly #lrnchat welcome) What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
08:38:38 pm LauraMattis: RT @lrnchat: 4) Remember to include the #lrnchat in all posts. http://tweetchat.com http://tweetgrid.com & http://twubs.com/lrnchat work well.
08:38:41 pm Quinnovator: @roninchef yeah, it’s hard not to jump in, but I reckon two in one day…well I gotta book to write #lrnchat
08:38:46 pm gminks: @jaycross thank you sir. :) #lrnchat
08:38:50 pm ADDIE_ID: @hjarche @gminks UNdead, technically speaking. #lrnchat
08:38:57 pm oxala75: dammit #missedEUlrnchatAGAIN #lrnchat
08:39:07 pm britz: Mark Britz, Syracuse Orangeman. Daddy, ID, learning designer, portal advocate #lrnchat back for round 2
08:39:18 pm jwillensky: @Schnicker Good to know, because today was a good one to forget! #lrnchat
08:39:27 pm Quinnovator: @niccinh enjoy! #lrnchat
08:39:33 pm gminks: I’m trying to see if I can get my travel arranged for Learning Solutions. Just got clearance to go! #lrnchat
08:39:39 pm hjarche: @ADDIE_ID oops, sorry, didn’t realize you work for the UN #lrnchat
08:39:47 pm gminks: @ADDIE_ID do you like brains? #lrnchat
08:39:53 pm tmiket: Q0 Finally figured out how to program speed dial on corp office phone..only took 6 years too #lrnchat
08:39:54 pm kelly_smith01: Has ADDIE_ID ever been scene in the daylight? #lrnchat
08:39:57 pm moehlert: RT @lrnchat: Q0 (our weekly #lrnchat welcome) What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
08:40:03 pm marciamarcia: @chrisstjohn Per tonight’s #lrnchat theme, I’d suggest you mean DAU is “the Walmart of *Training*” ;) c:@moehlert
08:40:05 pm jaycross: Learned from reading Social Design Patterns of the amazing breadth of conventions, memes, and routines we’ve adopted online #lrnchat
08:40:10 pm chrisstjohn: Have a new bottle of wine. Rated 95. So let me start off by saying ROI! #lrnchat
08:40:12 pm Schnicker: Nice one!! RT @gminks: I’m trying to see if I can get my travel arranged for Learning Solutions. Just got clearance to go! #lrnchat
08:40:17 pm roninchef: @Quinnovator It happens during my mid day check in. I want to jump in too but the salt doesn’t come out of the mine on it’s own. #lrnchat
08:40:26 pm cellodav: David, sitting in my car with @bebm1 on a car wash date in N. Ontario both university faculty/admin #lrnchat
08:40:26 pm Quinnovator: Q0) learned today that publishers are STILL dinosaurs (hand insert footnote marks? grumble, mumble…) #lrnchat
08:40:35 pm KoreenOlbrish: i learned that you can never have enough friends or shoes or rings. #lrnchat
08:40:36 pm niccinh: Q0 Today I learned the line between transferring learning concepts into foreign languages and translating them. #lrnchat
08:40:45 pm wlonline: WL Wong, Sydney, ICT #lrnchat
08:40:49 pm mpetersell: RT @lrnchat: Q0 (our weekly #lrnchat welcome) What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week? #lrnchat
08:40:50 pm jwillensky: Q0 I learned, again, that language is slippery. Take the word “contract,” for instance… #lrnchat
08:40:55 pm kelly_smith01: I learned today that you can never proof read enough. (I’ve learned that before but forgot.) #lrnchat
08:41:05 pm Quinnovator: @gminks congrats! Hope to meet you there at #LS10! (finally) #lrnchat
08:41:06 pm gminks: I am learning about how leadership theory impacts how students make learning their own. #lrnchat
08:41:14 pm mellissalast: Hi! Mellissa from Ontario Canada. Two #lrnchat in 1 day. DD went to bed at a reasonable time!
08:41:25 pm ADDIE_ID: @gminks I used to. And they used to like me. #lrnchat
08:41:33 pm oxala75: Q0) I learned stuff about authoring tools, HTML 5 and jQuery. Also learned that Steve Jobs is going to win again, damn him #lrnchat
08:41:34 pm mpetersell: I learned that I can be resilient in the face of change upon change upon change without raiding the liquor (too much) #lrnchat
08:41:35 pm ShaSha16: Shandy Arroyo from Lawng Island, NY – Learning Technologies, Leadership Development, LMS Implementer … I could go on forever #lrnchat
08:41:39 pm TerrenceWing: @kelly_smith01 He/she @ADDIE_ID wasn’t on the EU lrnchat. Must be the sunlight thing #lrnchat
08:41:43 pm TrivWorks: @lrnchat We’ve learned it’s not what you say, but how you say it (still gotta be compelling, though) #lrnchat
08:41:43 pm MichaelMcCurry: I learned today, or reinforced today that life is precious.. not to be taken lightly #lrnchat
08:41:46 pm chrisstjohn: Today I learned that I am confronted with insurmountable opportunites. #lrnchat
08:41:49 pm Quinnovator: RT @KoreenOlbrish: i learned that you can never have enough friends or shoes or rings. #lrnchat < or luggage (m'lady claims I have a fetish)
08:41:52 pm moehlert: @lrnchat I learned that it is what it is. #lrnchat
08:41:54 pm hjarche: @chrisstjohn I'll see your ROI and raise you a learning solution! Drink #lrnchat
08:41:55 pm DavidAKnopf: Q0) learned I have a new course to develop and that it's already scheduled for 3/29-30 – fun! #lrnchat
08:42:02 pm JaneBozarth: I continue to learn about kitchen remodeling. Today: Faucets. #lrnchat
08:42:10 pm SueSchnorr: Q0 – I learned more about yammer today. #lrnchat
08:42:10 pm cellodav: Q0 my music students have a great sense of humor – bloopers reels on all videos #lrnchat
08:42:12 pm gminks: @Quinnovator I know! Hopefully I can arrange the travel, I may be too late. friggin corp rules #lrnchat
08:42:34 pm gminks: @JaneBozarth did you get to pick nice new ones?? #lrnchat
08:42:35 pm Quinnovator: @hjarche @chrisstjohn you gents thirsty or what? #lrnchat
08:42:37 pm reward75: Sorry I'm late, long day, just feeding Thing 1 & Thing 2 #lrnchat
08:42:39 pm Schnicker: Hmmm, I think I've forgotten what I learned already, darn. #lrnchat
08:42:42 pm DavidAKnopf: LOL – I did sconces today too. RT @JaneBozarth: I continue to learn about kitchen remodeling. Today: Faucets. #lrnchat
08:42:42 pm LauraMattis: Q0- learned that while our strengths r gr8t & help us progress in career, can also b limitation when leading; need 2b aware of self #lrnchat
08:42:44 pm JaneBozarth: @hjarche @chrisstjohn ROI! Learning solution! Drink! #lrnchat
08:42:47 pm LearnNuggets: Q0) Learned today I'm contagious w/ flu and in bed for two days #lrnchat
08:42:52 pm Quinnovator: RT @MichaelMcCurry: I learned today, or reinforced today that life is precious.. not to be taken lightly #lrnchat < amen
08:42:57 pm cellodav: RT @lrnchat: Q0 (our weekly #lrnchat welcome) What have you learned today? If nothing fabulous, what have you learned this week?
08:43:04 pm KoreenOlbrish: @moehlert It is what it is until it isn't, then it was. #lrnchat
08:43:05 pm janet_frg: Q0) learned that going graduation dress shopping with a picky teen is more wearing than dental work without novacaine #lrnchat
08:43:09 pm kelly_smith01: Q0) I will take that raise you a MBPI #lrnchat
08:43:13 pm jenisecook: Hello from sunny Calif. Virtual #elearning, #learning ID and developer glad to be on #lrnchat
08:43:14 pm edwsonoma: ellen wagner sonoma CA farmer , elearning biz analyst popping in to say hi #lrnchat
08:43:17 pm gminks: I also learned that when someone asks you to collaborate you should probably scope it out. Or it may be bigger than you expect. #lrnchat
08:43:18 pm JaneBozarth: @gminks Oohhh yes. From forty-million options. #lrnchat
08:43:20 pm hjarche: I learned that it still feels great when a client is happy with your work :-) #lrnchat
08:43:24 pm Quinnovator: RT @Schnicker: Hmmm, I think I've forgotten what I learned already, darn. #lrnchat < LOL I've had days like that
08:43:25 pm reward75: Regina Ward, NYC, focusing on time management today #lrnchat
08:43:26 pm roninchef: @oxala75 My Q0 is about jQuery too. I have to say I am interested to see how easy it is. #lrnchat
08:43:33 pm azmichelle: Hi. I'm Michelle from Phx, AZ. A college librarian. Today I learned (again)
that developing curriculum can be hard. #lrnchat
08:43:44 pm gminks: Like this: http://www.cnbc.com/id/35708501 #lrnchat
08:43:51 pm jsuzcampos: Q0) I learned today that I probably don't have time for #lrnchat for the 4th straight week. Boo.
08:43:52 pm Quinnovator: RT @LearnNuggets: Q0) Learned today I'm contagious w/ flu and in bed for two days #lrnchat Training synonymous Push – Learning synonymous Pull #lrnchat
08:48:19 pm Quinnovator: Q1) I can learn, and I can train, but they’re very different things! #lrnchat
08:48:22 pm KoreenOlbrish: @BumpusHound oh, people can be trained :)
#lrnchat
08:48:26 pm mellissalast: RT @chrisstjohn: IMO managers use the word training while students use the word learning. #lrnchat
08:48:27 pm tmiket: Q1 Like a take from EU session: Training is done to you – Learning is what you do #lrnchat
08:48:29 pm edwsonoma: yup what @koreenolbrish said #lrnchat
08:48:32 pm JaneBozarth: Q1) No, learning a much broader concept. Alas, mgmt usually thinks “learning” looks like “training”. #lrnchat
08:48:35 pm mpetersell: training attempts to impart knowedge/skills to people; learning is what we acquire – intentional or unintentionally #lrnchat
08:48:35 pm moehlert: RT @odguru: Training is to learning what tomatoes are to a spaghetti dinner. #lrnchat What she said.
08:48:36 pm MariaOD: Q1 training is very specific and immediate. Learning is broad and happens over time! #lrnchat
08:48:37 pm jwillensky: @jsuzcampos Oh, no way. It’s something else. #lrnchat
08:48:39 pm cellodav: RT @tmiket: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Do you view the nouns “training” and “learning” as the synonymous. Why/why not? #lrnchat
08:48:42 pm jaycross: Uh, does a bear sh…. Never mind.
#lrnchat
08:48:43 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) Someone else imposes the training. Learning is an act of the self. #lrnchat
08:48:44 pm minutebio: Q1) Reminds me of training-education difference “Do u want your kids to attend sex education or sex training?” #lrnchat
08:48:48 pm higgteach: While I think of learning as being of having been taught a way to delve in and explore a particular subject #lrnchat
08:48:55 pm oxala75: yup RT @kristineshaheen Training is the action, and Learning is the result (or training, one hopes, but also many other actions). #lrnchat
08:49:02 pm wlonline: Q1 dict: TRAINING the action of teaching a person or animal a particular skill or type of behavior : in-service training for staff. #lrnchat
08:49:04 pm JaneBozarth: RT @moehlert RT @odguru: Training is to learning what tomatoes are to a spaghetti dinner. #lrnchat What she said.
08:49:04 pm tmiket: @KoreenOlbrish but only if they learn something in the process! #lrnchat
08:49:07 pm marciamarcia: Today I learned my son & husband have a lot of tie-die. Full washload! Is it any wonder then that I like the term “social.” #lrnchat
08:49:10 pm BumpusHound: RT @minutebio: Q1) Reminds me of training-education difference “Do u want your kids to attend sex education or sex training?” #lrnchat
08:49:11 pm MichaelMcCurry: To me the word “training” is a very forceful word, whereas “learning” is a very engaging reference. #lrnchat
08:49:15 pm jaycross: Management actually confuses learning with schooling, which is even worse. #lrnchat
08:49:17 pm chrisstjohn: IMO training and indicator metrics go hand in hand, while learning is about standalone worth. #lrnchat
08:49:25 pm jenisecook: RT @moehlert: RT @odguru: Training is to learning what tomatoes are to a spaghetti dinner. #lrnchat What she said. #lrnchat
08:49:27 pm azmichelle: Q1) No, training seems shorter and aimed at specific tasks. Learning involves understanding and being able use what U learned #lrnchat
08:49:33 pm Quinnovator: RT @jsuzcampos: Q1) Someone else imposes the training. Learning is an act of the self. #lrnchat
08:49:35 pm britz: training just an avenue (one of many) for learning to travel on #lrnchat
08:49:39 pm wlonline: Q1 Dict: Learning – the acquisition of knowledge or skills through experience, practice, or study, or by being taught #lrnchat
08:49:40 pm jaycross: Gimme some informal training…. #lrnchat
08:49:50 pm oxala75: Q1) isn’t there a Benjamin Franklin quote suitable for this question? #lrnchat
08:49:50 pm LauraMattis: Q1- Learning is something that happens in (and outside) of training. #lrnchat
08:49:53 pm kristineshaheen: @Quinnovator Must csikszentmihalyi be used in contextÉ #lrnchat
08:49:55 pm minutebio: RT @MariaOD: Q1 training is very specific and immediate. Learning is broad and happens over time! #lrnchat
08:49:58 pm Schnicker: Training is a focused, structured, more rigid activity, while learning is broader & has more flexibility #lrnchat
08:50:01 pm jenisecook: Q1 20+ years ago, “training” used to equal “learning”, and “training” was fun. What happened over time? #lrnchat
08:50:02 pm jaycross: Social training…
#lrnchat
08:50:08 pm JaneBozarth: Right. RT @jaycross Management actually confuses learning with schooling, which is even worse. #lrnchat
08:50:08 pm SuzNet: Q1 – not syn; Learning is active and personal while training involves imparting knowledge and skills to others; #lrnchat
08:50:11 pm TerrenceWing: I like that. RT @jaycross: Gimme some informal training…. #lrnchat
08:50:13 pm mellissalast: Q1) I train, you learn. You learn, I train. I learn, you learn. You train, I train? Hard time with the last one. Who’s learning? #lrnchat
08:50:13 pm mpetersell: training is a deliberate attempt to impart knowledge; learning is part of life; you live you learn #lrnchat
08:50:16 pm ThomasStone: @JaneBozarth These were small businesses. Bigger businesses tend to do better, because often in cahoots with politicians. #lrnchat
08:50:18 pm wlonline: RT @jaycross: Management actually confuses learning with schooling, which is even worse. #lrnchat
08:50:21 pm kristineshaheen: Hmm. Anyone know how I made my keyboard instantly FrenchÉÉ Borrowing a laptop tonight. #lrnchat
08:50:23 pm LearnNuggets: Q1) Training & Learning not synonomous. Training is a collective of Learning – learned tasks #lrnchat
08:50:25 pm hjarche: training works for measurable & observable performance – and that’s it #lrnchat
08:50:30 pm JeffNugent: @lrnchat “Training” is for seals. I love seals. I love learning. I’m not a seal. #lrnchat
08:50:39 pm niccinh: Q1) Training is for working. Learning is for living. #lrnchat
08:50:40 pm tmiket: Must it be spelled correctly? 8-) @Quinnovator Must csikszentmihalyi be used in contextÉ #lrnchat
08:50:42 pm rjpanetti: Q1 training is content/company/SME centric. Learning is…uh..learner-centric #lrnchat
08:50:44 pm cellodav: Q1 (almost) never training is how you mod others’ behaviour / learning is how you mod your own thinking/brain #lrnchat
08:50:47 pm JaneBozarth: “Performance” is a word, too. #lrnchat
08:50:49 pm azmichelle: Hi tweeps, I’m participating in #lrnchat right now, so please forgive all the tweets. Or, join us! http://bit.ly/8Ymwvx
08:50:50 pm TerrenceWing: Both informal and formal. Yes RT @britz: training just an avenue (one of many) for learning to travel on #lrnchat
08:50:51 pm nickfloro: To me training is how to do a task. Learning is how you take that task and do it better, improve it, grow. #lrnchat /via @ejyoung67 – great!
08:50:51 pm rosamariatorres: #lrnchat Rosa Maria Torres. Ecuador (teaching a seminar in Argentina) I learned today how important a microphone can be when U lose ur voice
08:50:54 pm halifaxtweeters: RT @hjarche: I’m Harold, from downtown Sackville, New Brunswick, Canada, pop. 5K #lrnchat
08:50:58 pm hjarche: @kristineshaheen mac or pc?
#lrnchat
08:51:03 pm Quinnovator: @kristineshaheen only if you can pronounce it (and then drink ’til you can’t) #lrnchat
08:51:04 pm chrisstjohn: Josh Bersin’s 2008 study concluded that 20% of learning occured PRIOR to training. #lrnchat
08:51:04 pm marciamarcia: @wlonline Key to me: “or by *being* taught” rather than “doing the teaching.” #lrnchat
08:51:05 pm ShaSha16: Training seems so physical to me where learning is more mental, emotional and has a profound impact. #lrnchat
08:51:15 pm mellissalast: Yeah. Pass the parmesan! RT @odguru: Training is to learning what tomatoes are to a spaghetti dinner. #lrnchat
08:51:21 pm kelly_smith01: Successfull learning is when training is placed into context. #lrnchat
08:51:25 pm moehlert: @jaycross What about confusing classrooms with learning? Ouch #lrnchat
08:51:27 pm reward75: Q1) As someone mentioned earlier, training is the push of information while learning is the pull #lrnchat
08:51:32 pm odguru: RT @hjarche: training works for measurable & observable performance – and thats it < this ?? #lrnchat
08:52:00 pm minutebio: RT @rjpanetti: RT @tmiket: Q1 Like a take from EU session: Training is done to you – Learning is what you do #lrnchat
08:52:03 pm mellissalast: Mgmt thinks that training is measurable. Learning… well… not so much. #lrnchat
08:52:05 pm LearnNuggets: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q1. Training is the act. Learning is (hopefully) the result. #lrnchat
08:52:06 pm tmiket: Much more training is wasted than learning #lrnchat
08:52:07 pm jenisecook: RT @ADDIE_ID: Obviously training and learning are the same thing. What do you think accounts for my longevity? #lrnchat
08:52:07 pm billcush: Q1) Learning is something that someone does themselves. Training is something someone does to someone else. Needs a little work. #lrnchat
08:52:08 pm Jared_Ritzz: training is something you do. learning is something that happens #lrnchat
08:52:11 pm hjarche: @odguru good point – if well done etc etc #lrnchat
08:52:11 pm ShaSha16: RT @reward75: Q1) As someone mentioned earlier, training is the push of information while learning is the pull #lrnchat
08:52:14 pm DavidAKnopf: @ADDIE_ID Formaldehyde? #lrnchat
08:52:14 pm edwsonoma: @hjarche my hair was scorched after the last pecha kucha session I saw @WWayne present! The man is my PK master. #lrnchat
08:52:14 pm kelly_smith01: RT @ADDIE_ID: Obviously training and learning are the same thing. What do you think accounts for my longevity? #lrnchat
08:52:15 pm marciamarcia: Learning is an inside out. Training is outside in. #lrnchat
08:52:18 pm Quinnovator: @kristineshaheen you must have trained it well to get that French É #lrnchat
08:52:19 pm elearningart: in Swedish, i think there’s no difference between verbs “learn” and “teach.” you in fact can “learn” someone. learn is reflexive #lrnchat
08:52:19 pm wlonline: Q1 you can provide training but is the learner learning? #lrnchat
08:52:20 pm espnguyen: Learning to me is more subconscious while training seems more deliberate. #lrnchat
08:52:22 pm ejyoung67: Much easier to keep up with hashtag chats of high volume on computer…not crackberry. #justsayn #lrnchat #u30pro
08:52:26 pm SueSchnorr: I ‘trained’ my 4 year old not to take money out of my wallet. I found that she didn’t ‘learn’ when paying 4 coffee & had no cash! #lrnchat
08:52:26 pm LauraMattis: Is it imposing if learner wants 2b there? RT @Quinnovator: RT @jsuzcampos: Q1 Some1 else imposes training. Learning is act of self #lrnchat
08:52:29 pm MichaelMcCurry: RT @reward75: Q1) As someone mentioned earlier, training is the push of information while learning is the pull ->I love that.. true #lrnchat
08:52:31 pm gminks: maybe training is @ interactivity level 0 -3, leaning is higher http://bit.ly/dcZlgV #lrnchat
08:52:48 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q1. People never really stop learning. Training is a conscious push to focus that learning. #lrnchat
08:52:53 pm jwillensky: Q1 Training is pushed through specific media. Learning is pulled from wherever. #lrnchat
08:52:56 pm Quinnovator: RT @moehlert: @jaycross What about confusing classrooms with learning? Ouch #lrnchat
08:52:59 pm JaneBozarth: @chrisstjohn I am 92% suspicious of numbers like “20% of learning.” At least 87% of the time, anyway. #lrnchat
08:53:01 pm moehlert: @lrnchat Just ask, was there learning before there was training? Trainers? ’nuff said #lrnchat
08:53:03 pm britz: RT @marciamarcia: Learning is an inside out. Training is outside in. #lrnchat
08:53:08 pm jaycross: ASLD :#trngchat TMS
#lrnchat
08:53:09 pm SuzNet: Q1 — learning is taking in; training is putting out #lrnchat
08:53:15 pm gminks: RT @elearningart: in Swedish, theres no diff between verbs “learn” and “teach.” you in fact can “learn” someone. learn is reflexive #lrnchat
08:53:20 pm mpetersell: training can be useful when you want to focus on something in particular – or annoying when you don’t #lrnchat
08:53:25 pm tmiket: RT @moehlert: @lrnchat Just ask, was there learning before there was training? Trainers? ’nuff said #lrnchat
08:53:26 pm LearnNuggets: RT @SueSchnorr: I ‘trained’ my 4 year old not to take money out of my wallet. I found that she didn’t ‘learn’ when paying 4 coffee & had no cash! #lrnchat
08:53:27 pm marciamarcia: RT @elearningart: in Swedish, i think there’s no difference between verbs “learn” and “teach.” you in fact can “learn” someone. learn is reflexive #lrnchat
08:53:29 pm DavidAKnopf: RT @JaneBozarth: @chrisstjohn I am 92% suspicious of numbers like “20% of learning.” At least 87% of the time, anyway. #lrnchat
08:53:32 pm minutebio: RT @britz: RT @marciamarcia: Learning is an inside out. Training is outside in. #lrnchat
08:53:32 pm chrisstjohn: IMO I think training is an episodic intervention while learning is an enrichment process. #lrnchat
08:53:36 pm alalearning: Good discussion tonight on training vs. learning in #lrnchat RT @marciamarcia: Learning is an inside out. Training is outside in. #lrnchat
08:53:37 pm lorireed: Good discussion tonight on training vs. learning in #lrnchat RT @marciamarcia: Learning is an inside out. Training is outside in. #lrnchat
08:53:37 pm VenessaMiemis: #lrnchat training = task driven, repetition, rote; learning = nonlinear, spontaneous, understanding
08:53:52 pm rjpanetti: @ADDIE_ID you look very familiar. I think we have worked together in the past #lrnchat
08:53:54 pm blairteach: @lrnchat I tend to think of “training” as giving and “learning’ as acquiring. #lrnchat
08:53:55 pm jenisecook: Q1 “Training” is formalized “learning” mandated by the organization #lrnchat
08:54:01 pm ShaSha16: RT @minutebio: RT @britz: RT @marciamarcia: Learning is an inside out. Training is outside in. #lrnchat
08:54:03 pm chrisstjohn: But I like marciamarcia’s take on it too. #lrnchat
08:54:03 pm billcush: RT @SueSchnorr: ‘trained’ 4 yr old not to take money from wallet. Found that she didn’t ‘learn’ when paying 4 coffee & had no cash! #lrnchat
08:54:06 pm jaycross: RT @chrisstjohn: IMO I think training is an episodic intervention while learning is an enrichment process. #lrnchat
08:54:09 pm hjarche: Humans are innate learners – the rest is shit others try to impose on us #lrnchat
08:54:09 pm wlonline: @marciamarcia Is there a third word: training, teaching, learning? #lrnchat
08:54:11 pm Quinnovator: @gminks I have yet to see clear distinctions for interactivity levels #lrnchat
08:54:14 pm SueSchnorr: RT @mpetersell: training can be useful when you want to focus on something in particular – or annoying when you don’t #lrnchat
08:54:14 pm roninchef: Q1Training is like using sandbags against a flood. Learning is building a dam to control the river. #lrnchat
08:54:14 pm reward75: RT @JaneBozarth: @chrisstjohn I am 92% suspicious of numbers like “20% of learning.” At least 87% of the time, anyway. < LOL #lrnchat
08:54:18 pm LearnNuggets: RT @marciamarcia: Learning is an inside out. Training is outside in. #lrnchat
08:54:25 pm JaneBozarth: May be tweet of the night:RT @moehlert Just ask, was there learning before there was training? Trainers? 'nuff said #lrnchat
08:54:31 pm trappc: Q1 I can explore when I learn. Training is controlled. #lrnchat
08:54:44 pm ThomasStone: Rec. reading (for later) on the topic of words "learning", "training", etc: Jay Cross on "Dirty Words" http://bit.ly/5bM1RV #lrnchat
08:54:46 pm tmiket: People in same training take away very different learnings #lrnchat
08:54:56 pm marksylvester: RT @elearningart: in Swedish, i think there's no difference between verbs "learn" and "teach." you in fact can "learn" someone. learn is reflexive #lrnchat
08:54:56 pm gminks: RT @JaneBozarth: @hjarche @chrisstjohn ROI! Learning solution! Drink! #lrnchat
08:54:56 pm marciamarcia: @elearningart Next time someone uses "learn" & "train" interchangeably, I'm going to say, "How Swedish of you!" #lrnchat
08:55:04 pm odguru: Could make a real messy comparison to the management vs leadership debate here… technical vs holistic… #lrnchat
08:55:04 pm jsuzcampos: RT @chrisstjohn: IMO I think training is an episodic intervention while learning is an enrichment process. #lrnchat
08:55:05 pm oxala75: @SueSchnorr she might have been an autodidact, having taken it upon herself to learn about the green paper #lrnchat
08:55:08 pm LauraMattis: For my followers not familiar w/#lrnchat, sorry abt the high volume tweets, Thursday night weekly chat w/some great Twitter tweeps! #lrnchat
08:55:11 pm mellissalast: Oh I like THAT word! RT @JaneBozarth: "Performance" is a word, too. #lrnchat
08:55:17 pm minutebio: Training is structured.. an event. Learning happens at any time whether u like it or not. #lrnchat
08:55:21 pm JaneBozarth: @reward75 Hey Regina how are you tonight? #lrnchat
08:55:25 pm oxala75: RT @hjarche: Humans are innate learners – the rest is shit others try to impose on us #lrnchat
08:55:28 pm digizen: RT @hjarche: Humans are innate learners – the rest is shit others try to impose on us #lrnchat
08:55:41 pm billcush: Q1) there can be training without learning….there can also be learning without training. #lrnchat
08:55:44 pm JaneBozarth: RT @marciamarcia @elearningart Next time someone uses "learn" & "train" interchangeably, I'm going to say, "How Swedish of you!" #lrnchat
08:55:52 pm tmiket: RT @oxala75: RT @hjarche: Humans are innate learners – the rest is shit others try to impose on us #lrnchat
08:55:52 pm kelly_smith01: RT @minutebio: Training is structured.. an event. Learning happens at any time whether u like it or not. #lrnchat
08:55:57 pm cellodav: Q1 all trainees are learners. Not all learners are trainees #lrnchat ( in the carwash now)
08:55:58 pm reward75: When you say training is for tasks you're comparing it to education not learning #lrnchat
08:56:00 pm niccinh: RT @jsuzcampos: RT @chrisstjohn: IMO I think training is an episodic intervention while learning is an enrichment process. #lrnchat
08:56:00 pm lorireed: @adepollo #lrnchat takes place in Twitter. Check it out! Just follow the hashtag and join in!
08:56:03 pm classroomtools: #lrnchat Training is imposed from the outside; learning emerges (often under tutelage) from within.
08:56:03 pm Quinnovator: time for the old joke: what's diff btwn education and training?… want daughter to have sex ed, or sex training? #lrnchat
08:56:07 pm moehlert: @JaneBozarth Wow. Don't think I'v ever had a "Tweet of the Night" I assume it carries a huge monetary prize… #lrnchat
08:56:15 pm davesapp: RT @eduinnovation Learning is fresh and new..Training can be repetitive. Lrning is gathering of..Training is refining of #lrnchat I like it
08:56:18 pm DawnFine: what is that all about? RT @azmichelle: RT @jsuzcampos: Q1) Someone else imposes the training. Learning is an act of the self. #lrnchat
08:56:20 pm tmiket: @oxala75 Agreed! if they just clearly explain why we should want to learn it we would right? #lrnchat
08:56:27 pm ADDIE_ID: @rjpanetti All my work is in the past. #lrnchat
08:56:37 pm reward75: @JaneBozarth I'm good, trying to slow down so I can catch up, :-) #lrnchat
08:56:41 pm chrisstjohn: My wife (a beltway bandit VP) says training is geared to mastering an activity, while learning broadens your horizons. #lrnchat
08:56:42 pm marksylvester: @Quinnovator That was a good one that I can't RT #lrnchat
08:56:43 pm LauraMattis: @simbeckhampson Are you leaving us in the evening chat now? :) #lrnchat
08:56:49 pm odguru: Explicit vs tacit #lrnchat
08:57:16 pm MichaelMcCurry: Training is driven by a "push" process, whereas learning is clearly a "pull" process. #lrnchat
08:57:21 pm ShaSha16: made a short appearance at #lrnchat – time to put the little ones to bed – have fun with the stimulating convos
08:57:28 pm janet_frg: training is sometimes a necessary precursor to deep learning. I hope my surgeon is well trained, & has also learned from experience #lrnchat
08:57:34 pm ThomasStone: Q1: I'll admit they have the same number of letters, and both end in "ning"… but… #lrnchat
08:57:34 pm rosamariatorres: #lrnchat TRAINING (or teaching) adopts the perspective of those who teach/train. LEARNING adopts the perspective of learners. #learning
08:57:34 pm Dave_Ferguson: @ADDIE_ID I liked your early stuff. #lrnchat
08:57:35 pm chrisstjohn: RT @Quinnovator: What's diff btwn education and training?… Want daughter to have sex ed, or sex training? #lrnchat
08:57:44 pm rjpanetti: Q1 learning is constantly happening like time passing. Training is man's attempt to organize, stimulate and guide this phenomenon.. #lrnchat
08:57:46 pm JaneBozarth: @moehlert Lots of rewards. Maybe we'll even let you load the queue next week. #lrnchat
08:57:49 pm mequel: I confirmed that I'm pretty damn good a what I do, but I can't wait to get even better #lrnchat
08:57:57 pm billcush: RT @odguru: Could make a real messy comparison to the management vs leadership debate here… technical vs holistic… #lrnchat
08:58:00 pm moehlert: #lrnchat Whither education?
08:58:01 pm chrisstjohn: @jaycross I learned that from you. #lrnchat
08:58:13 pm hjarche: @odguru how does training help when all the knowledge you need is tacit? aye there's the rub #lrnchat
08:58:28 pm KoreenOlbrish: @ADDIE_ID Don't call it a comeback, you've been here for years #lrnchat
08:58:31 pm Quinnovator: @Dave_Ferguson it's already a legend, with an early period, and… #lrnchat
08:58:33 pm chnapa: RT @mpetersell: like the intentional (training) versus unintentional or unintended (learning) view #lrnchat
08:58:34 pm rawn: RT @elearningart: in Swedish, i think there's no difference between verbs "learn" and "teach." you in fact can "learn" someone. learn is reflexive #lrnchat
08:58:35 pm Dave_Ferguson: Train/learn spectrum is less productive than the procedural/tacit one. #lrnchat
08:58:36 pm jaycross: Sex education or sex learning, that is the question. #lrnchat
08:58:43 pm oxala75: i used to be a trainer. now i really want to do as much as i can to give ppl the stuff they need and get myself out of the way. #lrnchat
08:58:50 pm odguru: @hjarche Yes indeed… unless you can be trained to be a better learner #lrnchat
08:58:54 pm cellodav: RT @janet_frg: training is sometimes necessary precursor to deep learning.hope my surgeon is well trained&has also learned from exp #lrnchat
08:59:01 pm moehlert: @Dave_Ferguson @ADDIE_ID Before he sold out….. #lrnchat
08:59:04 pm hjarche: @janet_frg and I hope my surgeon is able to learn without training #lrnchat
08:59:04 pm jsuzcampos: RT @KoreenOlbrish: @ADDIE_ID Dont call it a comeback, youve been here for years <> #lrnchat
08:59:05 pm KoreenOlbrish: @JaneBozarth yes, yes! @moehlert gets to load the queue! winner winner! #lrnchat
08:59:10 pm oxala75: @jaycross well, i know which one i opted for. #lrnchat
08:59:11 pm ThomasStone: Q1: Training is neither necessary nor sufficient for learning. So definitely not synonymous. QED. #lrnchat
08:59:13 pm azmichelle: @DawnFine It is a discussion held in twitter. They post Qs and tweeps answer. Use #lrnchat hashtag. Check it out: http://bit.ly/8Ymwvx
08:59:16 pm Dave_Ferguson: I’ve seen “all learning is tacit.” May be true, in the sense that in the long run, we’re all dead.
#lrnchat
08:59:21 pm mpetersell: learning – impoving skills, schema and/or mental models; training attempts to aid that process #lrnchat
08:59:22 pm wlonline: Q1 training to meet targeted goals, objectives #lrnchat
08:59:23 pm JaneBozarth: Doesn’t. Nor, alas, do databases. hjarche @odguru how does training help when all knowledge you need is tacit? aye there’s the rub #lrnchat
08:59:26 pm Quinnovator: @jaycross sounds like a blatant solicitation to me! #lrnchat
08:59:28 pm higgteach: Training ‘pushed’ by ‘sage on the stage’? Learning encouraged by ‘guide on the side’? #lrnchat
08:59:31 pm Jared_Ritzz: learning is the assimilation of experiences, while training is passing on knowledge to others #lrnchat
08:59:41 pm kellygarber: following a process vs. adding to the process
#lrnchat
08:59:45 pm ljwaks: RT @jsuzcampos: Q1) Someone else imposes the training. Learning is an act of the self. #lrnchat
08:59:46 pm lrnchat: Wonder what’s the question? Check the @lrnchat acct for the latest. #lrnchat
08:59:48 pm mequel: @JaneBozarth our kids love books on tape the summer before last we completed all of the c.s. lewis lww&W series #lrnchat
08:59:52 pm ADDIE_ID: @Dave_Ferguson Some of us more dead than others. #lrnchat
08:59:53 pm moehlert: @JaneBozarth Oooh! Next week may be tough though…time for Game Developers Conference :-) Game design vs ISD Questions maybe? #lrnchat
08:59:57 pm jsuzcampos: Q1) Training happens. When done well, learning follows. Performance improves. #lrnchat
09:00:03 pm blairteach: Do #lrnchat sessions get archived? If so, where?
09:00:09 pm Quinnovator: RT @jaycross: Sex education or sex learning, that is the question. #lrnchat grow #lrnchat
09:00:40 pm niccinh: RT @KoreenOlbrish: oooh, NICE! RT @higgteach: Training pushed by sage on the stage? Learning encouraged by guide on the side? #lrnchat
09:00:45 pm rosamariatorres: #lrnchat Of course Training & Learning are not synoyimous. (Diifferent concepts). U mean TRAINING and EDUCATING are not synonymous?
09:00:45 pm moehlert: RT @lrnchat: Wonder what’s the question? Check the @lrnchat acct for the latest. #lrnchat
09:00:48 pm jwillensky: RT @jsuzcampos: Q1) Training happens. When done well, learning follows. Performance improves. #lrnchat
09:00:56 pm ThomasStone: Q1: Training is one of many *means* to the *end* of learning. And *learning* is (usually) itself a means for other values. #lrnchat
09:01:01 pm Dave_Ferguson: @Jared_Ritzz Training sometimes gets handed out, rather than passed on. Providing trng does not equal beh. change, let alone accomp #lrnchat
09:01:13 pm MariaOD: RT @marciamarcia Learning is something that happens w/in U that U cn share. Training happens outside of U that U cn bring in. #lrnchat
09:01:19 pm mequel: @ljwaks agreed #lrnchat
09:01:20 pm billcush: Nice! RT @higgteach: Training ‘pushed’ by ‘sage on the stage’? Learning encouraged by ‘guide on the side’? #lrnchat
09:01:30 pm TerrenceWing: @ThomasStone Good to see you this week #lrnchat
09:01:41 pm moehlert: @hjarche @odguru Wait, I thought that learning was an innate activity? #lrnchat
09:01:42 pm Dave_Ferguson: RT @ThomasStone: Training is one of many *means* to *end* of learning. And *learning* is (usually) itself a means for other values. #lrnchat
09:01:48 pm JaneBozarth: @rosamariatorres no, training and learning (training and educ. aren’t synonymous, either) #lrnchat
09:01:59 pm janet_frg: @hjarche agreed, but at the initial stage, training was prob necessary. a prereq to get foundational skills -learning is ongoing
#lrnchat
09:02:14 pm azmichelle: RT @tmiket: @blairteach lrnchat.wordpress.com #lrnchat
09:02:19 pm Quinnovator: @higgteach training can be done w/o sage on stage, don’t confuse goal w/ pedagogy #lrnchat
09:02:32 pm MariaOD: Sage on the stage! Oh the visual! #lrnchat
09:02:50 pm rjpanetti: @chrisstjohn that’s okay as long as uses the checklist too… #lrnchat
09:02:50 pm kelly_smith01: Training is guided by time and space. Learning is 24/7 anywhere #lrnchat
09:03:05 pm jaycross: RT @janet_frg: @hjarche agreed, but at initial stage, training was necessary. prereq to get foundational skills | Not for babies #lrnchat
09:03:21 pm Dave_Ferguson: @janet_frg I agree, tho’ training is often ‘best we can do’ effort & aligns w/ status quo… #lrnchat
09:03:22 pm tmiket: @MariaOD ..and dunce on the stage is even worse 8-) #lrnchat
09:03:36 pm rosamariatorres: #lrnchat Exactly. None of them are synonymous RT @JaneBozarth no, training and learning (training and education aren’t synonymous, either)
09:03:39 pm SueSchnorr: RT @kelly_smith01: Training is guided by time and space. Learning is 24/7 anywhere #lrnchat
09:03:54 pm JaneBozarth: @mequel Yeah I’m liking the Harry Potters. reserved Anne of Green Gables today. (library, for iPod. Dig it.) #lrnchat
09:04:04 pm jaycross: RT @tmiket: @MariaOD ..and dunce on the stage is even worse 8-) #lrnchat
09:04:08 pm odguru: @hjarche Like everything I suppose-get 2 dimension from training; flesh from doing. Have truly learned from others’ experiences tho #lrnchat
09:04:11 pm LearnNuggets: Q1) Training & Learning synonomous? Sure…they both end in “ing” #lrnchat
09:04:13 pm kristineshaheen: RT @Quinnovator: @higgteach training can be done w/o sage on stage, dont confuse goal w/ pedagogy #lrnchat
09:04:14 pm jenisecook: RT @kelly_smith01: Training is guided by time and space. Learning is 24/7 anywhere #lrnchat
09:04:21 pm Dave_Ferguson: …as in Little Corp Schoolhouse, fixed events, rosters, LMS bean count, certified, anointing. #lrnchat
09:04:32 pm hjarche: @jaycross here we disagree #lrnchat
09:04:32 pm rawn: RT @marciamarcia: Learning is something that happens within you that you can share. Training happens outside of you that you can bring in. #lrnchat c:@rawn
09:04:33 pm JaneBozarth: @rosamariatorres yes, that’s Q1 #lrnchat
09:04:40 pm TerrenceWing: Are you watching Star Trek and tweeting? @kelly_smith01: Training is guided by time and space. Learning is 24/7 anywhere #lrnchat
09:04:42 pm higgteach: @Quinnovator A good point, I guess too that learning could happen with training, under certain conditions #lrnchat
09:05:11 pm jaycross: RT @hjarche: @jaycross here we disagree Where? #lrnchat
09:05:25 pm odguru: @moehlert @hjarche – learning is innate, but mastery of it not so much… #lrnchat
09:05:31 pm LearnNuggets: As much as I want to stay, this flu is kicking my arse! Need to go lie down #lrnchat
09:05:49 pm tmiket: @TerrenceWing ..and the diff btw training and learning is even more drastic in big Enterprise #lrnchat
09:05:54 pm lrnchat: Q2) Is it good for the “training industry” to be called the “learning industry”? Can there even be “learning industry”? #lrnchat
09:05:54 pm minutebio: RT @kelly_smith01: Training is guided by time and space. // What is difference between time & space? #lrnchat
09:05:59 pm KoreenOlbrish: @LearnNuggets feel better!!! #lrnchat
09:06:00 pm ejyoung67: Thanks to #u30pro and #lrnchat tonight. Sorry for just lurking…been a long day. Must sign off now. Night all!
09:06:01 pm blairteach: @azmichelle @tmiket Thanks for #lrnchat link.
09:06:01 pm DavidAKnopf: Q1) Learning is one possible outcome of training, but it’s neither guaranteed nor even necessarily the most likely. #lrnchat
09:06:12 pm moehlert: #lrnchat So if they are not the same, then how do we feel about “e-learning”? If learning is internal, how do you “e” it?
09:06:13 pm Quinnovator: @LearnNuggets take care, see you another week all better #lrnchat
09:06:16 pm hjarche: @jaycross chicken/egg stuff, jay – we can take this offline – not a serious issue #lrnchat
09:06:21 pm odguru: RT @KoreenOlbrish: @LearnNuggets feel better!!! #lrnchat
09:06:38 pm blehet: #lrnchat is my greatest discovery on Twitter so far… guess I’ve learned something new today. No training necessary.
09:06:40 pm Schnicker: Training can lead to learning, but learning just is. #lrnchat
09:06:47 pm jsuzcampos: Signing out from New Hampshire. Will there be a follow-on training so that I can learn about what I missed? #lrnchat
09:06:49 pm mpetersell: training has objectives and intended outcomes; learning is what really happens; sometimes they match #lrnchat
09:06:49 pm Dave_Ferguson: I tire of “we don’t have to train kids” analogy (e.g., lang).True, but at work don’t have 2,500 hrs to learn finance system. #lrnchat
09:06:56 pm kelly_smith01: RT @DavidAKnopf:Q1) Learning is one possible outcome of training, but its neither guaranteed nor even necessarily the most likely. #lrnchat
09:06:56 pm Quinnovator: RT @odguru: @moehlert @hjarche – learning is innate, but mastery of it not so much… #lrnchat < right, don't *assume* good learning skills
09:07:03 pm moehlert: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is it good for the “training industry” to b called the “learning industry”? Can there even be "learning industry"? #lrnchat
09:07:25 pm KoreenOlbrish: @moehlert lol, ok, so let's call e-learning "e-training"…semantics, my friend, semantics :) #lrnchat
09:07:25 pm TerrenceWing: @tmiket I personally think when done right they are soulmates (training an d learning) #lrnchat
09:07:32 pm rosamariatorres: #lrnchat LEARNING can result from both EDUCATION or TRAINING (learning can also occur in the absence of education or training) #learning
09:07:34 pm reward75: RT @moehlert: So if they are not the same, then how do we feel about "e-learning"? < Maybe we should call it e-training #lrnchat
09:07:37 pm kellygarber: Q2 making an "industry" out of learning is like trying to patten breathing… #lrnchat
09:07:37 pm trappc: RT @moehlert: #lrnchat So if they are not the same, then how do we feel about "e-learning"? If learning is internal, how do you "e" it?
09:07:40 pm Quinnovator: @jsuzcampos calisthenics then training, 5AM #lrnchat
09:07:45 pm jenisecook: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is it good for “training industry” to be called the “learning industry”? Can there even be "learning industry"? #lrnchat
09:07:45 pm JaneBozarth: @learnNuggets. Have some soup. Get a nap. And wrap a hot towel around your head. #ferrisbuellersdad #lrnchat
09:07:46 pm tmiket: @blairteach wthashtag.com also very good – it keeps all the links in tact #lrnchat
09:07:51 pm Dave_Ferguson: @moehlert E-learning is just a label for all kinds of stuff. You don't take SPF 30 to the SunTrust Bank. #lrnchat
09:07:53 pm corksea: RT @blehet: #lrnchat is my greatest discovery on Twitter so far… guess I've learned something new today. No training necessary.
09:07:59 pm pookie_10920: Training is an event. Learning is a process. #lrnchat
09:08:01 pm niccinh: Q2) "Training Industry" v. "Learning Industry" seems like a natural cycle of needing a refresh every now and then. #lrnchat
09:08:01 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q2) good for the “training industry” to be called the “learning industry”? Can there even be "learning industry"? #lrnchat
09:08:10 pm UnfoldedOrigami: RT @VenessaMiemis #lrnchat training = task driven, repetition; learning = nonlinear, spontaneous, understanding < extremely interesting!
09:08:11 pm SuzNet: @moehlert learning moderated by technology, a means to an end? #lrnchat
09:08:13 pm jsuzcampos: Q2) Calling it a "learning industry" is like saying "breathing industry". Both are states of nature. #lrnchat
09:08:23 pm tmiket: @TerrenceWing agreed but key part was "if done right" that's the challenge no? #lrnchat
09:08:25 pm corksea: @blehet same here #lrnchat
09:08:29 pm moehlert: @KoreenOlbrish Semantics or "truth in advertising" ;-) Anybody ever sold a big ole box o' learning? #lrnchat
09:08:29 pm hjarche: @Quinnovator never assume – it makes an ass out of u and me #lrnchat
09:08:35 pm DavidAKnopf: RT @Quinnovator: … right, dont *assume* good learning skills < Indeed. You can be taught how to learn, but not trained to learn. #lrnchat
09:08:41 pm wlonline: RT @jsuzcampos: Q2) Calling it a "learning industry" is like saying "breathing industry". Both are states of nature. #lrnchat
09:08:47 pm mpetersell: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is it good for the “training industry” to be called the “learning industry”? Can there even be "learning industry" #lrnchat
09:08:51 pm ThomasStone: Q1: I've been paid to be a trainer. Wish I could get paid for being a learner… I'd be happy to grow rich that way! #lrnchat
09:08:53 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is it good for “training industry” to be called the “learning industry”? Can there even be "learning industry"? #lrnchat
09:09:00 pm kelly_smith01: Learning is placing training (what was trained) into context #lrnchat
09:09:06 pm moehlert: @SuzNet Training mediated by technology – learnng is internal, personal #lrnchat
09:09:09 pm Dave_Ferguson: @Quinnovator I have no hope whatsoever that "the industry" will agree on a name when it can't agree on what's nonsense. #lrnchat
09:09:21 pm MariaOD: Training is "practice practice practice" until it becomes automatic! #lrnchat
09:09:21 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q2. "Learning industry" is like "Learning departments"…people focused on helping people learn instead of delivering training #lrnchat
09:09:21 pm jwillensky: Q2 If people want to buy "learning," why not? #lrnchat
09:09:22 pm Quinnovator: Q2) learning industry? Learning is outcome; training, experimentation, collaboration, communication are 'industries' for learning #lrnchat
09:09:23 pm reward75: Q2) training industry… sounds like some of that snake oil… #lrnchat
09:09:28 pm kristineshaheen: Q2) I think "Learning Industry" sounds a bit odd: unprofessional? But it's certainly more accurate of ideals / intentions. #lrnchat
09:09:34 pm jenisecook: RT @pookie_10920: Training is an event. Learning is a process. Me: Are they both an "industry"? #lrnchat
09:09:39 pm pookie_10920: GMU ISD peeps. Join us now for learning chat. #lrnchat
09:09:43 pm tmiket: RT @lrnchat:Q2) Is it good for the “training industry” to be called the “learning industry”? Can there even be "learning industry"? #lrnchat
09:09:44 pm JaneBozarth: Q2) Prob w/ calling it the 'learning' industry is that people are further led believe it really is 'learning' #lrnchat
09:09:48 pm Schnicker: It's funny, when I say 'learners' to clients they blank, but say 'trainees' and they get it #lrnchat
09:09:52 pm jsuzcampos: RT @Quinnovator: calisthenics then training, 5AM <Roger that, sir. Over and out. #lrnchat
09:09:54 pm DavidAKnopf: Q2) If there's a "learning industry," I quit! Too silly!!! #lrnchat
09:09:57 pm moehlert: @Dave_Ferguson Ys but labels are important…ROI from training possible, ROI from learning? Squishier. #lrnchat
09:10:12 pm higgteach: @moehlert If learning can happen anywhere, then why not within the e-world? #lrnchat
09:10:15 pm jaycross: Q2 Should change to Getting-things-done Industry. Harder to cut its budget. #lrnchat
09:10:19 pm MariaOD: RT @LearnNuggets As much as I wnt 2 stay, ths flu is kicking my arse! Need 2 go lie dn #lrnchat<<True.
09:10:28 pm azmichelle: RT @JaneBozarth: Q2) Prob w/ calling it the learning industry is that people are further led believe it really is learning #lrnchat
09:10:33 pm chrisstjohn: RT @moehlert: @KoreenOlbrish Semantics or “truth in advertising” Anybody ever sold a big ole box o’ learning? #lrnchat (Not for under $75
09:10:37 pm Dave_Ferguson: @Schnicker Yes; our insider-baseball discussions often overlook what the CLIENT calls his problem and his workplace.
#lrnchat
09:10:38 pm Quinnovator: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @Quinnovator have no hope that “the industry” will agree on a name when it can’t agree on what’s nonsense. #lrnchat
09:10:38 pm tmiket: Lots of people are certainly making $$$ from it…so in that sense it is an industry #lrnchat
09:10:42 pm LauraMattis: Q2- What makes up training industry? Vendors? What makes up learning industry? Vendors + Learners = increased audience, growth! #lrnchat
09:10:45 pm DavidAKnopf: @Schnicker Yabbut you get to charge $more per hour if you say “learners.” :-p #lrnchat
09:10:47 pm sanchezjb: @moehlert e-Learning? Ouch! #lrnchat
09:10:50 pm odguru: RT @jwillensky: Q2 If people want to buy “learning,” why not? << After all, us slime bag vendors, we want some too! #lrnchat
09:10:56 pm jenisecook: Q2 How about workplace performance results industry? #lrnchat
09:10:56 pm kkapp: RT jaycross Q2 Should change to Getting-things-done Industry. Harder to cut its budget. #lrnchat
09:11:08 pm gsiemens: @hjarche but assumptions also permits glossing of details that may not be worth discussing at depth right now #lrnchat
09:11:13 pm JaneBozarth: Considering I'm getting email/discussion board blitz-spammed by people in the "social learning industry", well… #lrnchat
09:11:13 pm TerrenceWing: Doesn't a learning industry simply mean we have to get new business cards?
#lrnchat
09:11:18 pm kelly_smith01: Q2) Well they do have CLOs. Have not met one have seen pictures. #lrnchat
09:11:19 pm lmccune: Q2) We structure our budgets around the training industry. Can't imagine a "learning budget" catching on. #lrnchat
09:11:35 pm cellodav: RT @lrnchat: Q2) Is it good for the “training industry” to b called the “learning industry”? Can there even be "learning industry"? #lrnchat
09:11:37 pm MariaOD: Training is quantitative while learning is qualitative! Making my professor proud! #lrnchat
09:11:45 pm Dave_Ferguson: @moehlert I've earned my living via words all my life — but I shun prof society & vendor industry jargon-arguments. #lrnchat
09:11:50 pm ThomasStone: Q2: Sure, "learning industry" would be the orgs, vendors, consultants, mags, blogs… that help *enable* more, better learning. #lrnchat
09:11:50 pm hjames: RT @lrnchat: Wonder what's the question? Check the @lrnchat acct for the latest. #lrnchat
09:11:51 pm kellygarber: RT @DavidAKnopf: Q2) If theres a "learning industry," I quit! Too silly!!! #lrnchat
09:11:57 pm moehlert: @higgteach My stance is that there are opportunities for learning everywhere but learning is ultimately a personal, intimate act #lrnchat
09:12:00 pm tmiket: @lmccune Wouldn't you pay more for learning than training? I would #lrnchat
09:12:00 pm Quinnovator: @KoreenOlbrish but we want to deliver *outcomes*! We don't learn for intellectual self-gratification, but to DO something new #lrnchat
09:12:04 pm dianadell: New to #lrnchat. Can someone give me the scoop? Where are the questions that are being discussed? #lrnchat
09:12:04 pm mellissalast: Oh there's that word again, performance… RT @jenisecook: Q2 How about workplace performance results industry? #lrnchat
09:12:07 pm jenisecook: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Well they do have CLOs. Have not met one have seen pictures. #lrnchat
09:12:08 pm minutebio: Q2) In corp world, mgt is far more receptive to the term "training" and "learning" may be a bit soft for 'em #lrnchat
09:12:33 pm kasey428: When I think of training, I think tasks, not analytical skills. #lrnchat
09:12:35 pm moehlert: @jaycross Sure but then they/we would have to live up to it. ;-) #lrnchat
09:12:35 pm jwillensky: @MariaOD Oh, you'll get a gold star for that one! :-) #lrnchat
09:12:40 pm kristineshaheen: Q2) What about the "professional development" industry? Inclusive, positive, professional, familiar: is there a conflict? #lrnchat
09:12:43 pm niccinh: Correction: Q2) "Training" v "Learning" is marketing wordsmithing. If it sells more, go for it. Quality will speak for itself. #lrnchat
09:12:49 pm wlonline: @dianadell Hello and welcome #lrnchat
09:12:53 pm DavidAKnopf: Let's be the performance enhancement industry. We can just dispense steroids. #lrnchat
09:13:00 pm Schnicker: @DavidAKnopf hows that work? #lrnchat
09:13:00 pm minutebio: RT @jenisecook: RT @kelly_smith01: Q2) Well they do have CLOs. Have not met one have seen pictures. #lrnchat
09:13:07 pm KoreenOlbrish: @Quinnovator agree, but that doesn't preclude an industry or groups of like-minded people who are focused on facilitating learning #lrnchat
09:13:08 pm kristineshaheen: Q2, con't… as in, I feel that this term may mean something else in another context. #lrnchat
09:13:09 pm rosamariatorres: #lrnchat LEARNING cannot be taken 4 granted. Not all that is taught is learnt RT @lrnchat: Q2) “training industry” =“learning industry”?
09:13:10 pm wlonline: RT @dianadell: New to #lrnchat. Can someone give me the scoop? Where are the questions that are being discussed? #lrnchat
09:13:14 pm tmiket: @minutebio In my corp world most have prob never even thought of the difference IMHO #lrnchat
09:13:26 pm Dave_Ferguson: @minutebio I'll suggest performance improvement as a term, but if client calls it transfer of training, I'm good with that. #lrnchat
09:13:29 pm billcush: Quite true. RT @minutebio: Q2) In corp world, mgt is more receptive to "training" and "learning" maybe a bit soft for 'em #lrnchat
09:13:33 pm reward75: RT @DavidAKnopf: Lets be the performance enhancement industry. We can just dispense steroids. #lrnchat
09:13:40 pm wlonline: @billcush Kinda like organizational learning… #lrnchat
09:13:40 pm cellodav: Q2 how many gvt ministries of learning are there? #lrnchat
09:13:51 pm kasey428: Corp world asks for training, not learning. #lrnchat
09:13:53 pm jwillensky: RT @DavidAKnopf: Let's be the performance enhancement industry. We can just dispense steroids. #lrnchat
09:13:53 pm ThomasStone: RT @KoreenOlbrish: "Learning industry" like "Learning departments"..people focused on helping people learn instead of del. training #lrnchat
09:13:58 pm KoreenOlbrish: are we all so jaded that we can't believe people can help people learn. and that there could be an "industry" around that? #lrnchat
09:13:59 pm Quinnovator: @dianadell go to lrnchat.wordpress.com or see RTs #lrnchat
09:13:59 pm moehlert: @Dave_Ferguson Best use of the "shun" ever: http://bit.ly/OUJ29 #lrnchat
09:14:00 pm tmiket: I like the getting stuff done better, faster cheaper industry #lrnchat
09:14:14 pm chnapa: Q2) Learning industry: Could be a way to break the paradigm in business that learning has to take place in a classroom #lrnchat.
09:14:15 pm ljwaks: @jsuzcampos Righto. Next thing we'll NEED the learning industry, just like we need the health industry #lrnchat
09:14:18 pm rdeis: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Q2. "Learning industry" is like "Learning depts"..people focused on helping ple learn instead of delivering trg #lrnchat
09:14:37 pm starsandfrogs: @cellodav I doubt we really ever learn. We just get better and better at pretending we do. #lrnchat
09:14:46 pm JaneBozarth: Right RT @kasey428 Corp world asks for training, not learning. #lrnchat
09:14:51 pm Quinnovator: @KoreenOlbrish yes, I resemble that remark. Yes, I want to facilitate learning, but for a goal: "performance industry"? #lrnchat
09:15:00 pm mpetersell: I work in Learning and Performance; before that Strategic Learning; before that Global Learning #lrnchat
09:15:00 pm mequel: labels are important. Discourse is important. I'm glad there are those of us who care to #lrnchat ourselves into a better world
09:15:02 pm ThomasStone: Sorry, David Allen owns GTD! RT @jaycross: Q2 Should change to Getting-things-done Industry. Harder to cut its budget. #lrnchat
09:15:04 pm kristineshaheen: @dave_ferguson @minutebio Someone at CSTD conference last year mentioned "Performance Improvement" was the new flag to wave. #lrnchat
09:15:07 pm rjpanetti: Q2 I think most people equate training with "courses". As we find ways to provide more informal learning the label changes #lrnchat
09:15:15 pm wlonline: @dianadell we are talking about training vs learning and now q2 about "learning industry" #lrnchat
09:15:17 pm Dave_Ferguson: @KoreenOlbrish Absolutely not jaded. Overcorrection for talky, bullet-ridden, HRD-massaged sheepdip masquerading as training. #lrnchat
09:15:26 pm Quinnovator: RT @DavidAKnopf: Let's be the performance enhancement industry. We can just dispense steroids. #lrnchat < LOL or worse
09:15:39 pm steelepierce: @dianadell #lrnchat blog here w/specs http://bit.ly/11Am3
09:15:40 pm tmiket: And usually get it @janebozarth RT @kasey428 Corp world asks for training, not learning. #lrnchat
09:15:42 pm minutebio: RT @tmiket: @minutebio In my corp world most have prob never even thought of the difference // There's a difference? Kidding #lrnchat
09:15:43 pm starsandfrogs: @cellodav Q2 answer: One ministry of education is one too many. #lrnchat
09:15:45 pm DavidAKnopf: Is it reasonable to think there is a single 2- or 3-word label that describes the entire industry? I doubt it. #lrnchat
09:15:49 pm kasey428: I work for a training/consulting firm, but we try to create positive learning environments, ILT or E. #lrnchat
09:15:52 pm jenisecook: @Quinnovator Yup, that's what I suggested; see my earlier tweet re: "performance industry". Not sure I like "industry" tho. #lrnchat
09:16:00 pm kristineshaheen: Also have heard "Learning and Development", hybrid from T&D. #lrnchat
09:16:05 pm hblowers: @MariaOD really? I've always training as educ packaged as oppostunites. Learning is opportunites seized. #lrnchat
09:16:06 pm jaycross: RT @starsandfrogs: @cellodav I doubt we really ever learn. We just get better at pretending we do. How 'bout Imagination Industry? #lrnchat
09:16:07 pm pookie_10920: In corporate, learning + training are synonymous . Probably shouldn't be that way. #lrnchat
09:16:09 pm KoreenOlbrish: a lot of training depts rebranding to "Learning and Development" depts. I think the intention is good, even if execution is poor #lrnchat
09:16:11 pm LauraMattis: Q2- "Training industry" sounds so exclusive, while "lrng industry" more inclusive & actually incl trainer's customer, the learner. #lrnchat
09:16:19 pm mpetersell: I think learning industry better describes what we do; than training – there are many ways to learn; our job enables that #lrnchat
09:16:21 pm Quinnovator: @KoreenOlbrish more just worried that using 'learning' still gets us bucketed in the 'cost center' mentality #lrnchat
09:16:26 pm tjmeister: RT @KoreenOlbrish are we all so jaded we can't believe people cn help people learn,& that there could be an "industry" around that? #lrnchat
09:16:30 pm Schnicker: @KoreenOlbrish Not jaded, but in the same way we find it easier to define training than learning, such an all-encompassing word #lrnchat
09:16:34 pm niccinh: But corp also wants to be different. Learning=buzz RT @JaneBozarth: Right RT @kasey428 Corp world asks for training, not learning. #lrnchat
09:16:38 pm wlonline: RT @kristineshaheen: Also have heard "Learning and Development", hybrid from T&D. <– me too #lrnchat
09:16:40 pm rosamariatorres: #lrnchat The purpose of training and of education is LEARNING RT @JaneBozarth Right RT @kasey428 Corp world asks for training,not learning.
09:16:44 pm tmiket: @kasey428 As in we can't MAKE them learn-only increase the odds #lrnchat
09:16:51 pm Quinnovator: really do believe that 'learning' needs to move to be as much org-wide infrastructure as IT #lrnchat
09:16:52 pm reward75: I don't know… industrializing natural processes… isn't that what agriculture is doing, super hormoned food #lrnchat
09:17:01 pm DavidAKnopf: Not all training/learning is about performance, though. #lrnchat
09:17:01 pm jenisecook: @KoreenOlbrish My former employer rebranded to Talent Acquisition and Development. "Dev" included training & learning. #lrnchat
09:17:03 pm Dave_Ferguson: @Quinnovator ISPI has tried for decades to get 'performance improvement' msg out. Hobbled by dense language… #lrnchat
09:17:11 pm billcush: Q2 Training & Performance Improvement. RT @kristineshaheen: @dave_ferguson @minutebio "Performance Improvement" …the new flag… #lrnchat
09:17:19 pm odguru: Have worked with a number of orgs that had safety and/or quality report right to the CEO. Need that kind of focus. #lrnchat
09:17:19 pm kristineshaheen: @DavidAKnopf I think one term is necessary and will happen certain places whether we like it or not – employment data, for one. #lrnchat
09:17:30 pm KoreenOlbrish: @Quinnovator LOL, yes, well…we're definitely still seen as a cost center…thus the old standby "ROI" objection to investments #lrnchat
09:17:31 pm Quinnovator: RT @tmiket: @kasey428 As in we can't MAKE them learn-only increase the odds #lrnchat < exactly, it's a probablistic game
09:17:32 pm moehlert: @KoreenOlbrish No, not that jaded. But is that this industry? #lrnchat
09:17:32 pm JaneBozarth: @rosamariatorres Not necessarily. #lrnchat
09:17:46 pm higgteach: Curious as to where the word 'education' fits for all on the training/learning contiuum #lrnchat
09:17:48 pm wlonline: man-made versus natural – would that apply to training vs learning? #lrnchat
09:17:50 pm Quinnovator: You can lead a learner to learning, but you can't make 'em think (to paraphrase Dorothy Parker) #lrnchat
09:18:10 pm gminks: RT @Quinnovator: really do believe that learning needs to move to be as much org-wide infrastructure as IT #lrnchat
09:18:16 pm Dave_Ferguson: @kristineshaheen Sadly, performance improvement's flag is the Liechtenstein of the Training / Learning Industry. #lrnchat
09:18:19 pm JaneBozarth: My biggest challenge is getting mgmt to see that learning can also happen outside of training #lrnchat
09:18:19 pm jenisecook: @DavidAKnopf Hmmm.. performance = outcomes, results, no matter if Knowledge, Skills, or Attitude…? #lrnchat
09:18:26 pm chnapa: RT @Quinnovator: " I want to facilitate learning, but for a goal: "performance industry"? "- Speaks to managements focus on results #lrnchat
09:18:30 pm LauraMattis: Yes, we are evolving! RT @lrnchat Q2) Good 4 “training industry” 2b called “learning industry”? Can there even be lrng industry? #lrnchat
09:18:32 pm kelly_smith01: ISPI (or friends of ISPI) just about invented Performance Improvement term. #lrnchat
09:18:34 pm pookie_10920: Watching #theoffice and doing #lrnchat. Multitask overload.
09:18:43 pm Schnicker: Could do! RT @wlonline: man-made versus natural – would that apply to training vs learning? #lrnchat
09:18:46 pm JaneBozarth: Learning happens lots of places in an organization, but training isn't there. #lrnchat
09:18:52 pm mequel: @JaneBozarth so true. It's because they haven't learned the difference. It is the job of the Training/Learning dept to edct them #lrnchat
09:18:57 pm KoreenOlbrish: @moehlert Well, I named my company "Tandem Learning" :) #lrnchat
09:18:57 pm Quinnovator: @higgteach I actually see training-education as the continuum, learning underpinning both #lrnchat
09:19:09 pm MariaOD: Learning is messy and hard to assess! That's my my assessment instruments lack validity! #lrnchat
09:19:16 pm gminks: not always. Tech no longer has that luxury RT @JaneBozarth: Right RT @kasey428 Corp world asks for training, not learning. #lrnchat
09:19:16 pm jaycross: RT @JaneBozarth: My biggest challenge is getting mgmt to see that learning can also happen outside of training. THAT's a big one #lrnchat
09:19:19 pm JaneBozarth: @dave_ferguson said Liechtenstein! Drink! #lrnchat
09:19:37 pm Quinnovator: RT @JaneBozarth: Learning happens lots of places in an organization, but training isn't there. #lrnchat I like that: arts as core curriculum?
09:23:30 pm kristineshaheen: RT @SuzNet: training is only one means to facilitate learning, training industry is way too narrow #lrnchat
09:23:38 pm ADDIE_ID: @rosamariatorres Now you’re catching on! #lrnchat
09:23:40 pm rosamariatorres: #lrnchat And EDUC? RT @dianadell TRAINING is the conscious-planned process of transferring knowledge,skills &attitudes to others-D. Stockley
09:23:46 pm ALSJASON: #lrnchat If training and learning were synonymous, that would assume that one would learn everything they were trained on.@eduinnovation
09:23:48 pm kerina: RT @jwillensky: Did somebody actually claim “training” and “learning” were synonymous? #lrnchat [~.^]
09:23:56 pm tmiket: @wlonline a person had to build the online training right? #lrnchat
09:24:03 pm ALSJASON: RT @lrnchat: Q1) Do you view the nouns “training” and “learning” as the synonymous. Why/why not? #lrnchat
09:24:08 pm ThomasStone: Uh-oh… here come the torrent of movie references! LOL RT @KoreenOlbrish: @JaneBozarth @gminks I wouldn’t call it working, Bob. #lrnchat
09:24:26 pm odguru: RT @cellodav: RT @jaycross: How bout Imagination Industry? #lrnchat > I like that: arts as core curriculum? Like “ingenuity” too #lrnchat
09:24:26 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @hybridkris: True ROI story: I worked for a co. that wouldnt approve $1500 for a server b/c saving $100K a year wasnt enough. #lrnchat
09:24:34 pm mellissalast: Yes, hard to reliquish control. RT @rjpanetti: Getting training org comfortable w/ learning coming frm elsewhere also a challenge. #lrnchat
09:24:39 pm gminks: the Nazis had pieces of flair they made the Jews wear…… #lrnchat
09:24:40 pm JaneBozarth: Not that I saw. RT @jwillensky: Did somebody actually claim “training” and “learning” were synonymous? #lrnchat
09:24:48 pm wlonline: @tmiket i agree; just saying the process of the actual training may not involve a person but an interface #lrnchat
09:24:50 pm dianadell: @steelepierce @wlonline @Quinnovator thanks for the info #lrnchat
09:24:59 pm jaycross: RT @ALSJASON If training and learning synonymous, would assume that one would learn everything they were trained on.@eduinnovation #lrnchat
09:25:04 pm JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone Oh go fill out your TPS cover sheet. #lrnchat
09:25:23 pm higgteach: @Dave_Ferguson yes, thanks for this. was not nec. referring to formal ed #lrnchat
09:25:32 pm jlknott: RT @kasey428: ‘training’ is often mandated. I know how I respond to ‘mandated’…not happy. #lrnchat
09:25:34 pm Quinnovator: RT @cellodav: RT @jaycross: How ’bout Imagination Industry? #lrnchat > I like that: arts as core curriculum? < innovation industry?
09:25:35 pm LauraMattis: I gotta say good night, have a great rest of the night! #lrnchat
09:25:37 pm Dave_Ferguson: @rosamariatorres I must say that often when someone tries to "transfer an attitude" to me, the result isn't what they expected. #lrnchat
09:25:54 pm hblowers: @MariaOD good point. but more stuff shouldn't over shadow engagment. More stuff is only valuable if paired with more opp to seize. #lrnchat
09:25:55 pm tmiket: just don't take my swingline stapler! RT @JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone Oh go fill out your TPS cover sheet. #lrnchat
09:26:01 pm odguru: @jwillensky – see lots of interchangeable use – i.e. learning solutions that are actually discovery, training & follow up… #lrnchat
09:26:08 pm lrnchat: Q3) What other ambiguities in the training and development space? What makes it vague? #lrnchat
09:26:09 pm JaneBozarth: @thomasstone @koreenolbrish @gminks Actually MY favorite thing isn't line, but"planning to plan" flow chart in conference room #lrnchat
09:26:16 pm kasey428: RT @rosamariatorres I must say that often when someone tries to "transfer an attitude" to me, the result isnt what they expected. #lrnchat
09:26:30 pm Quinnovator: @LauraMattis g'nite! #lrnchat
09:26:32 pm ThomasStone: with a sliced fish on it RT @JaneBozarth: @ThomasStone Oh go fill out your TPS cover sheet. #lrnchat
09:26:39 pm wlonline: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What other ambiguities in the training and development space? What makes it vague? #lrnchat
09:26:41 pm dianadell: Training is only successful if learning occurs. #lrnchat
09:26:48 pm odguru: RT @rosamariatorres I must say that often when someone tries to "transfer an attitude" to me, the result isnt what they expected. #lrnchat
09:26:54 pm chrisstjohn: RT @smcclements: But in an ideal world upper Kirkpatrick levels can ascertain topical learning. #lrnchat
09:26:57 pm mpetersell: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What other ambiguities in the training and development space? What makes it vague? #lrnchat
09:26:58 pm Quinnovator: @Dave_Ferguson sounds like a 'bad' attitude, you gotta get your mind right! #lrnchat
09:27:01 pm moehlert: @JaneBozarth "PC Load Letter. WTF does that mean?" #lrnchat
09:27:06 pm tmiket: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What other ambiguities in the training and development space? What makes it vague? #lrnchat
09:27:08 pm KoreenOlbrish: hehe RT @Dave_Ferguson: I must say-often when someone tries to "transfer an attitude" to me, the result isnt what they expected #lrnchat
09:27:11 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What other ambiguities in the training and development space? What makes it vague? #lrnchat
09:27:11 pm moehlert: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What other ambiguities in the training and development space? What makes it vague? #lrnchat
09:27:12 pm JaneBozarth: RT @lrnchat Q3) What other ambiguities in the training and development space? What makes it vague? #lrnchat
09:27:18 pm jwillensky: @odguru Do you think this is a semantic, buzzword-y issue? #lrnchat
09:27:26 pm DavidAKnopf: Q3) The wording of this question seems vague and ambiguous. #lrnchat
09:27:29 pm gminks: heh RT @moehlert: @JaneBozarth "PC Load Letter. WTF does that mean?" #lrnchat
09:27:39 pm SuzNet: RT @rosamariatorres I must say that often when someone tries to "transfer an attitude" to me, the result isnt what they expected. #lrnchat
09:27:57 pm Quinnovator: Q3) most of the terms in the #lrnchat drinking game? (http://lrnchatdrinkinggame.wikispaces.com/)
09:28:02 pm niccinh: RT @DavidAKnopf: Q3) The wording of this question seems vague and ambiguous. #lrnchat
09:28:02 pm jaycross: Well, apparently social and informal are sufficiently vague for the snake-oil salespeople to go wild. #lrnchat
09:28:03 pm mpetersell: q3 – What makes it vague is there are so many ways to learn; there are only a few practical effective ways to train #lrnchat
09:28:09 pm SuzNet: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What other ambiguities in the training and development space? What makes it vague? #lrnchat
09:28:12 pm smcclements: via dianadell
Training is only successful if learning occurs. #lrnchat great point!
09:28:16 pm gminks: q3 is sorta vague #lrnchat
09:28:27 pm KoreenOlbrish: Q3. Knowledge assessment vs performance assessment. that one just kills me. #lrnchat
09:28:27 pm elearningart: Q3- the fact that the measurement of learning rarely occurs #lrnchat
09:28:28 pm minutebio: Q3) Vague – "Blended learning" #lrnchat
09:28:30 pm Dave_Ferguson: @Quinnovator On my Facebook page, I list my religion as Reform Behaviorist. #lrnchat
09:28:31 pm tmiket: Q3 Who / what qualifies as 'good' seems to pretty vague to most doesn't it? #lrnchat
09:28:32 pm DavidAKnopf: ROFL! RT @rosamaria I must say that often when someone tries to "transfer an attitude" to me, the result isnt what they expected. #lrnchat
09:28:45 pm pookie_10920: I agree RT @MLx: calling it "learning" seems more participatory, "training" seems one-sided. #lrnchat
09:28:56 pm Quinnovator: Q3) classroom and learning (courtesy of @moehlert ) #lrnchat
09:28:59 pm reward75: Q3) Training vs. Development, people think I took some trainings now I have developed #lrnchat
09:29:03 pm MariaOD: Q3- I don't get NPS score yet we always ask that question on the smile sheet #lrnchat
09:29:03 pm KoreenOlbrish: LOL RT @gminks: q3 is sorta vague #lrnchat
09:29:07 pm niccinh: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What other ambiguities in the training and development space? What makes it vague? #lrnchat
09:29:12 pm cellodav: RT @lrnchat: Q3) What other ambiguities in the training and development space? What makes it vague? #lrnchat
09:29:16 pm rosamariatorres: #lrnchat They CANT be synonymous. LEARNING is the expected outcome of TRAINING RT @lrnchat Q1) Do U view training & learning as synonymous
09:29:21 pm Quinnovator: RT @jaycross: Well, apparently social and informal are sufficiently vague for the snake-oil salespeople to go wild. #lrnchat
09:29:26 pm kelly_smith01: RT @elearningart: Q3- the fact that the measurement of learning rarely occurs #lrnchat
09:29:45 pm ADDIE_ID: Q3) Ideas of process and model often seem confused. Just sayin'. #lrnchat
09:29:26 pm kelly_smith01: RT @elearningart: Q3- the fact that the measurement of learning rarely occurs #lrnchat
09:29:45 pm ADDIE_ID: Q3) Ideas of process and model often seem confused. Just sayin'. #lrnchat
09:29:53 pm Quinnovator: @Dave_Ferguson there you go waving that there 'religion' flag #lrnchat
09:29:54 pm jwillensky: Q3 In corporateland — is desired outcome behavioral change, or is it hearts and minds? #lrnchat
09:30:29 pm minutebio: RT @jwillensky: Q3 In corporateland — is desired outcome behavioral change, or is it hearts and minds? #lrnchat
09:30:30 pm KoreenOlbrish: Sigh. On this, I agree with the Undead. RT @ADDIE_ID: Q3) Ideas of process and model often seem confused. Just sayin. #lrnchat
09:30:34 pm odguru: @kasey428: Corp asks for training,<Interesting dichotomy. Butts in seats is visible activity. CEOs ask 4 "innovation"(mean lrning) #lrnchat
09:30:37 pm Quinnovator: Q3) knowledge and skills: seem to think the former will generate the latter somehow magically (magical thinking!) #lrnchat
09:30:38 pm DavidAKnopf: Q3) The Kirkpatrick levels seem poorly understood. (Can I have a drink now?) #lrnchat
09:30:38 pm Dave_Ferguson: @jwillensky In SMART corporate land, desired outcome is ACCOMPLISHMENT. #lrnchat
09:30:41 pm JaneBozarth: Irony! Drink! RT @ADDIE_ID Q3) Ideas of process and model often seem confused. Just sayin'. #lrnchat
09:30:44 pm SuzNet: Q3 evil ADDIE #lrnchat
09:30:49 pm mpetersell: @jwillensky in corp land business results are desired; the rest is gravy #lrnchat
09:30:53 pm oxala75: @jwillensky often neither. depressingly, CYA is often the goal. #lrnchat
09:31:00 pm odguru: @jwillensky Ya it's marketing. But troublesome in that there is an expectation that there will be magic. #lrnchat
09:31:01 pm kellygarber: @bonnyface you took my comment out of context – join us in #lrnchat to join in on the discussion
09:31:03 pm kelly_smith01: RT @ADDIE_ID: Q3) Ideas of process and model often seem confused. Just sayin.
(Oh – I just retweeted @ADDIE_ID) #lrnchat
09:31:04 pm mellissalast: Had no idea there was a drinking game! DAMN! #lrnchat
09:31:09 pm marciamarcia: RT @jwillensky: In corporateland is desired outcome behavioral change, or is it hearts and minds? #lrnchat
09:31:11 pm jaycross: I'm writing a paper geared to taming the snake-oil crowd. Sometimes we have to tell stories rather than platitudes.
#lrnchat
09:31:20 pm chrisstjohn: Which is more important? Having knowledge or skills? #lrnchat
09:31:38 pm Quinnovator: @DavidAKnopf well played. Drink, sir! #lrnchat
09:31:39 pm kristineshaheen: Q3) When is involvement in process and procedure development / facillitation appropriate as part of ID. #lrnchat
09:32:00 pm tmiket: @chrisstjohn Performance is ultimate goal #lrnchat
09:32:00 pm wlonline: RT @chrisstjohn: Which is more important? Having knowledge or skills? #lrnchat
09:32:00 pm DavidAKnopf: RT @chrisstjohn: Which is more important? Having knowledge or skills? < Depends what you're responsible for, no? #lrnchat
09:32:08 pm JaneBozarth: @DavidAKnopf Misunderstanding often from the fact that IT'S JUST A FREAKIN' TAXONOMY aarrgghhhh… gasp…. #lrnchat
09:32:21 pm mellissalast: HAHA! RT @ADDIE_ID: Q3) Ideas of process and model often seem confused. Just sayin'. #lrnchat
09:32:21 pm marciamarcia: @oline73 "Real training"? Does that imply there is "fake training"? Goody. #lrnchat
09:32:23 pm Quinnovator: um, ROI and value, (seriously, not drink bait, but doing the obligatory anyway) #lrnchat
09:32:33 pm Dave_Ferguson: @jwillensky As Tom Gilbert said, "Behavior, you take with you. Accomplishment, you leave behind."
#lrnchat
09:32:38 pm odguru: @jaycross say more about the snake oil paper? #lrnchat
09:32:40 pm JaneBozarth: @mellissalast Seriously? Why do you think we do this? #lrnchat
09:32:46 pm billcush: Neither unless applied in action. RT @chrisstjohn: Which is more important? Having knowledge or skills? #lrnchat
09:32:53 pm dianadell: Effective training can speed up the learning process. #lrnchat
09:33:01 pm DavidAKnopf: RT @JaneBozarth: Misunderstanding often from the fact that ITS JUST A FREAKIN TAXONOMY aarrgghhhh… < LOL! Drink! Then breathe! #lrnchat
09:33:01 pm jaycross: RT @chrisstjohn: Which is more important? Having knowledge or skills? I'll take both, Chris. You want oxygen or food? Pick one. #lrnchat
09:33:02 pm Quinnovator: @chrisstjohn Darn, I *know* the answer to that… #lrnchat
09:33:09 pm JaneBozarth: @marciamarcia I got yer fake trainin' right here. Step right up! #lrnchat
09:33:09 pm gminks: @Quinnovator whats wrong with ROI and value? (and drinking?) #lrnchat
09:33:11 pm KoreenOlbrish: Re: assessment, isn't the goal of TRAINING that people LEARN to DO something (better or differently?) Performance is key #lrnchat
09:33:12 pm mpetersell: @JaneBozarth Not a freaking taxonomy – its a bloomin' taxonomy! #lrnchat
09:33:21 pm MariaOD: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @jwillensky As Tom Gilbert said, "Behavior, you take with you. Accomplishment, you leave behind."
#lrnchat
09:33:22 pm Quinnovator: @elearningart *hic* #lrnchat
09:33:27 pm jwillensky: @odguru Maybe we should brand ourselves as the Training/Learning/Performance Improvement/OD industry. #lrnchat
09:33:37 pm janet_frg: @chrisstjohn knowledge or skills? knowlegde w/o skill and skill w/o knowledge can be equally undesirable. want to have both.
#lrnchat
09:33:40 pm kristineshaheen: Oy….. RT @mpetersell: @JaneBozarth Not a freaking taxonomy – its a bloomin taxonomy! #lrnchat
09:33:56 pm tracieverett: RT @eduinnovation: Learning is fresh and new..Training can be repetitive. Learning is gathering of..Training is refining of #lrnchat
09:33:56 pm DavidAKnopf: @jaycross I pick oxygen. That'll buy me time to forage for food. #lrnchat
09:33:58 pm Mrkeenan: @MrKeenan.com: Five Points of Disconnect Between Teachers and Effective Teaching http://bit.ly/a2Sbyx #education #edchat #lrnchat
09:34:06 pm reward75: @chrisstjohn niether, you need the knowledge to apply the skills, and you need the skills to execute the knowledge #lrnchat
09:34:08 pm Dave_Ferguson: Management is not without sin. Often the goal of 'training' is: we told 'em, they didn't do it, they're fired. #lrnchat
09:34:09 pm SuzNet: RT @mpetersell: @JaneBozarth Not a freaking taxonomy – its a bloomin taxonomy! #lrnchat
09:34:10 pm kasey428: Gov. metric for federal employees often # butts in seats; not whether any learning occurred. Taxpayer $ wasted. #lrnchat
09:34:10 pm odguru: @jwillensky Ya! That's good and clear. #lrnchat
09:34:16 pm lmccune: mpetersell @jwillensky in business results are desired- Yes, and in class students are tested on what they've "learned". #lrnchat
09:34:20 pm gminks: BREATHE! RT @JaneBozarth: @DavidAKnopf Misunderstanding often from the fact that ITS JUST A FREAKIN TAXONOMY aarrgghhhh… gasp…. #lrnchat
09:34:21 pm JaneBozarth: @kristineshaheen No that's a different taxonomy. Two! #lrnchat
09:34:22 pm cellodav: Q3 what is the true end of training in industry? Trainees often sure it's not their learning… #lrnchat
09:34:25 pm chrisstjohn: RT @DavidAKnopf: @jaycross I pick oxygen. That'll buy me time to forage for food. #lrnchat
09:34:44 pm billcush: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Re: assessment, isn't the goal of TRAINING that people LEARN to DO something. Performance is key #lrnchat
09:34:46 pm jaycross: RT @odguru: @jaycross say more about the snake oil paper? http://www.jarche.com/2010/03/social-snake-oil/ and then… #lrnchat
09:34:47 pm kristineshaheen: SO much fake… RT @marciamarcia: @oline73 "Real training"? Does that imply there is "fake training"? Goody. #lrnchat
09:34:51 pm kasey428: RT @Dave_Ferguson: Management is not without sin. Often the goal of training is: we told em, they didnt do it, theyre fired. #lrnchat
09:34:59 pm MariaOD: RT @dianadell: Effective training can speed up the learning process. #lrnchat
09:35:07 pm girishmungra: RT @Schnicker: Training is a focused, structured, more rigid activity, while learning is broader & has more flexibility #lrnchat
09:35:08 pm JaneBozarth: @mpetersell Was talking about the other taxonomy. #lrnchat
09:35:14 pm niccinh: @janet_frg Disagree. The internet's got all the knowledge I'll ever need…now if only I had the skills to find that knowledge. #lrnchat
09:35:44 pm DavidAKnopf: Understatement of the day award goes to… RT @Dave_Ferguson: Management is not without sin. #lrnchat
09:35:44 pm Quinnovator: @gminks nothing wrong with drinking! $2K yields $10K better ROI than $10K yields $20K, rather have 8K net or 10K? #lrnchat
09:36:00 pm odguru: @jaycross – specific to social media/social learning or training in general (re the snake oil?) #lrnchat
09:36:18 pm kristineshaheen: @niccinh Just-in-Time knowledge delivery? #lrnchat
09:36:29 pm rosamariatorres: #lrnchat Attitudes cannot be transferred :) RT @SuzNet When someone tries 2 "transfer an attitude" to me, the result isnt what they expected
09:36:52 pm billcush: Q3) Ambiguities in training..Training to Management..It can be good, fast, and Inexpensive. Pick 2. Mgmt wants all three. #lrnchat
09:36:58 pm KoreenOlbrish: U need training! RT @niccinh: Disagree.The internets got all the knowledge I need…if only I had the skills to find that knowledge #lrnchat
09:36:59 pm badsquare: RT @KoreenOlbrish: Re: assessment, isn't the goal of TRAINING that people LEARN to DO something (better or differently?) Performance is key #lrnchat
09:37:18 pm badsquare: RT @jaycross: I'm writing a paper geared to taming the snake-oil crowd. Sometimes we have to tell stories rather than platitudes.
#lrnchat
09:37:25 pm JaneBozarth: @mellissalast More than you are now. #lrnchat
09:37:33 pm gminks: @Quinnovator don't know, had too many drinks now #lrnchat
09:38:13 pm higgteach: Q3) Ambiguous (as well as hilarious) to me is the term 'brain-based learning' #lrnchat
09:38:18 pm mellissalast: @JaneBozarth Good answer. :-D #lrnchat
09:38:18 pm oxala75: RT @kristineshaheen: Oy….. RT @mpetersell: @JaneBozarth Not a freaking taxonomy – its a bloomin taxonomy! #lrnchat
09:38:30 pm DavidAKnopf: Assessment is critical, but there are plenty of reasons people avoid doing it, including trainers and training managers. #lrnchat
09:38:52 pm tmiket: What other kind is there? RT @higgteach: Q3) Ambiguous (as well as hilarious) to me is the term 'brain-based learning' #lrnchat
09:39:07 pm niccinh: More like JIT knowledge "recall" RT @kristineshaheen: @niccinh Just-in-Time knowledge delivery? #lrnchat
09:39:09 pm azmichelle: RT @higgteach: Q3) Ambiguous (as well as hilarious) to me is the term brain-based learning / Ha! True. #lrnchat
09:39:14 pm oxala75: yup RT @Dave_Ferguson Management is not without sin. Often the goal of 'training' is: we told em, they didn't do it, they're fired. #lrnchat
09:39:16 pm noahsparks: RT @KoreenOlbrish: U need training! RT @niccinh: Disagree.The internets got all the knowledge I need…if only I had the skills to find that knowledge #lrnchat
09:39:18 pm rosamariatorres: #lrnchat It is training,but ineffective (common) RT @kristineshaheen Just because it should lead 2 learning,and doesn't,is it not training?
09:39:20 pm cellodav: RT @niccinh now if only I had the skills to find that knwldg #lrnchat < lrning helps u do something gr8 with what u find
09:39:21 pm higgteach: @tmiket exactly! #lrnchat
09:39:25 pm DavidAKnopf: BBL? WOT?!?! RT @higgteach: Q3) Ambiguous (as well as hilarious) to me is the term brain-based learning #lrnchat
09:39:26 pm minutebio: RT @tmiket: What other kind is there? RT @higgteach: Q3) Ambiguous (as well as hilarious) to me is the term brain-based learning #lrnchat
09:39:26 pm kelly_smith01: RT @DavidAKnopf: Assessment is critical, there are plenty of reasons people avoid doing it, includ. trainers and training managers. #lrnchat
09:39:33 pm mpetersell: @DavidAKnopf assessment can be threatening to the trainer; if the assessed person fails then the trainer has failed #lrnchat
09:39:34 pm kasey428: @KoreenOlbrish Why, there's nothing like a 20 question quiz to confirm learning has occurred…not. Who made that rule, anyway? #lrnchat
09:39:37 pm jaycross: RT @odguru: @jaycross – specific to social media learning? also informal, many LMS claims. eLearning went thru this 10 years ago. #lrnchat
09:39:46 pm californiakara: Q3) Mgmt: Fix it. ID: Root cause? Mgmt: Fix that. ID: Ok. *tinker* Fixed! Mgmt: Oh, that's not what I meant. #lrnchat
09:39:50 pm billcush: Q3) Ambiguities in training: Learning. How do you measure learning even with assessments . Performance is not vague. #lrnchat
09:40:08 pm kellygarber: If I google how to fly a plane and spend days reading about it …will you be my passenger? …or do I need training? #lrnchat
09:40:11 pm oxala75: RT @kasey428: Gov. metric for federal employees often # butts in seats; not whether any learning occurred. Taxpayer $ wasted. #lrnchat
09:40:19 pm kristineshaheen: @rosamariatorres Exactly. #lrnchat
09:40:21 pm SuzNet: RT @azmichelle: RT @higgteach: Q3) Ambiguous (as well as hilarious) to me is the term brain-based learning / Ha! True. #lrnchat
09:40:33 pm DavidAKnopf: Yes, 'bad' assessments can have negative impact on trainers, managers, and budgets. #lrnchat
09:40:36 pm KoreenOlbrish: @kasey428 the people who follow the CYA rule…box checked! We're good! :) #lrnchat
09:40:39 pm rosamariatorres: #lrnchat Should be. RT @danroy1002 @rosamariatorres The purpose of learning is action. #learning #action
09:40:45 pm mpetersell: RT @kasey428: @KoreenOlbrish Why, theres nothing like a 20 question quiz to confirm learning has occurred..not. Who made that rule? #lrnchat
09:40:49 pm ThomasStone: don't confuse with pancreas-based RT @higgteach: Q3) Ambiguous (as well as hilarious) to me is the term 'brain-based learning' #lrnchat
09:40:53 pm higgteach: @minutebio my question exactly #lrnchat
09:41:03 pm Quinnovator: RT @higgteach: Q3) Ambiguous (as well as hilarious) to me is the term 'brain-based learning' #lrnchat < yep
09:41:04 pm kristineshaheen: @niccinh I'd argue that you still need enough knowledge to understand where to start your search. #lrnchat
09:41:27 pm JaneBozarth: Ha! RT @kellygarber If I google how to fly a plane &spend days reading about it will you be my passenger? Or do I need training? #lrnchat
09:41:32 pm tmiket: not just govt @kasey428: Gov metric for fed emps often # butts in seats; not whether learning occurred. #lrnchat
09:41:43 pm mellissalast: Q3) "Just in Time Training (JITT)" – just in time for what?? Maybe last week was JIT for me? Then what?! #lrnchat
09:41:44 pm kellygarber: …please join us in #lrnchat before confirming that what I'm tweeting is off the hook. :) #lrnchat
09:41:46 pm kerina: RT @kellygarber: If I google how to fly a plane & spend days reading about it …will u be my passenger? …or do I need training? #lrnchat
09:41:52 pm Quinnovator: @ThomasStone don't like where this is going (back to intellectual self-gratification) #lrnchat
09:41:59 pm higgteach: @ThomasStone spleen-based learning is something to behold, though! #lrnchat
09:42:04 pm kasey428: @ThomasStone 'brain-based learning' LOL. #lrnchat
09:42:14 pm oxala75: @sharon_elin @kellygarber i dunno, but you'll definitely need practice. #lrnchat
09:42:21 pm Quinnovator: @kellygarber more like off the rails? #lrnchat
09:42:30 pm niccinh: Agreed. Skills still trump knowledge tho. RT @kristineshaheen:@niccinh Id argue that you need enough knowledge to start your search #lrnchat
09:42:38 pm ThomasStone: @kasey428 The guy who was tired of writing 50-question quizzes! #lrnchat
09:42:39 pm DavidAKnopf: And the #lrnchat drinking game involves liver-based learning. #lrnchat
09:42:40 pm marciamarcia: RT @ThomasStone Don't confuse with pancreas-based RT @higgteach: Ambiguous (& hilarious) to me is the term 'brain-based learning' #lrnchat
09:42:41 pm kasey428: RT @higgteach: @ThomasStone spleen-based learning is something to behold, though! #lrnchat
09:42:50 pm Dave_Ferguson: I'll repeat myself (a first!): "So how much of this job involves answering multiple-guess questions?" #lrnchat
09:42:56 pm wlonline: RT @kerina: RT @kellygarber If I google how to fly plane & spend days reading abt it will u be my passenger? or do I need training? #lrnchat
09:42:56 pm Schnicker: I love #lrnchat, it gets so outta hand. I spend most of the time scrolling, reading & giggling
09:43:08 pm KoreenOlbrish: Totally forgot about this…I hear gut-based learning is really catching on. RT @kasey428: @ThomasStone brain-based learning LOL. #lrnchat
09:43:18 pm JaneBozarth: RT @higgteach: @ThomasStone spleen-based learning is something to behold, though! #lrnchat
09:43:18 pm kristineshaheen: @niccinh ie: Which icon is your browser? Which bookmark do you click to search the Internet?
#lrnchat
09:43:19 pm tmiket: RT @Dave_Ferguson: I'll repeat myself (a first!): "So how much of this job involves answering multiple-guess questions?" #lrnchat
09:43:21 pm jaycross: RT @kasey428: RT @higgteach: @ThomasStone spleen-based learning is something to behold, though! #lrnchat
09:43:31 pm azmichelle: LOL! RT @DavidAKnopf: And the #lrnchat drinking game involves liver-based learning. #lrnchat
09:43:32 pm mpetersell: RT @Schnicker: I love #lrnchat, it gets so outta hand. I spend most of the time scrolling, reading & giggling – Aye! #lrnchat
09:43:38 pm hjarche: I was in the pilot training business – we focused on performance, not hours of training #lrnchat
09:43:47 pm pollyalida: rt @mlx calling it "learning" seems more participatory, "training" seems one-sided. #lrnchat So r w teachers, trainers, facilitators ??
09:44:02 pm Quinnovator: @Dave_Ferguson isn't all of life a 'multiple guess' question? Best training there is! #lrnchat
09:44:03 pm kristineshaheen: @niccich Arguably of course those are actually sklls depending how you approach it. #lrnchat
09:44:18 pm kelly_smith01: I'll have to Google spleen based learning #lrnchat
09:44:19 pm MariaOD: @hblowers i see what you're saying aim to provide skill/knowledge/enrichment opportunities! #lrnchat
09:44:22 pm mellissalast: But when it doubt, pick C RT @Dave_Ferguson: "So how much of this job involves answering multiple-guess questions?" #lrnchat
09:44:24 pm minutebio: @kellygarber: I google hw 2 fly plane & spend dys reading about it will u be passenger? // R there complimentary drinks & pretzels? #lrnchat
09:44:27 pm Dave_Ferguson: @KoreenOlbrish I've certainly seen lot of gluteus-maximus-based learning. #lrnchat
09:44:52 pm allonsdanser: RT @Schnicker: I love #lrnchat, it gets so outta hand. I spend most of the time scrolling, reading & giggling
09:44:58 pm kasey428: I bet someone working on his or her PhD come up with 'brain-based' learning. Ah, academia… #lrnchat
09:45:00 pm kelly_smith01: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @KoreenOlbrish Ive certainly seen lot of gluteus-maximus-based learning. #lrnchat
09:45:04 pm higgteach: @Dave_Ferguson as well as talking from this same zone #lrnchat
09:45:09 pm kristineshaheen: Actually separating skills & knowledge = not possible in reality. Labels, methods, theories, taxonomies are just useful tools. #lrnchat
09:45:16 pm ThomasStone: Good to hear! LOL RT @hjarche: I was in the pilot training business – we focused on performance, not hours of training #lrnchat
09:45:17 pm kellygarber: training is the arena where we create a safe environment to try, to fail, to succeed, to try again …to learn. #lrnchat
09:45:28 pm JaneBozarth: @mellissalast @dave_ferguson It's hardly ever E #lrnchat
09:45:38 pm Quinnovator: just was told of client who wants 1 hour per module. Going to have to argue for outcomes-based performance. Sigh. #lrnchat
09:45:38 pm minutebio: RT @kellygarber: training is the arena where we create a safe environment to try, to fail, to succeed, to try again …to learn. #lrnchat
09:45:40 pm kasey428: @KoreenOlbrish Ive certainly seen lot of gluteus-maximus-based learning #lrnchat
09:46:05 pm Quinnovator: RT @mellissalast But when in doubt, pick C RT @Dave_Ferguson "So how much of this job involves answering multiple-guess questions?" #lrnchat
09:46:11 pm ThomasStone: Now I'm *really* LOL RT @Dave_Ferguson: @KoreenOlbrish I've certainly seen lot of gluteus-maximus-based learning. #lrnchat
09:46:17 pm kellygarber: @allonsdanser hahaha …yes, LOTs of drinks!
#lrnchat
09:46:24 pm cellodav: RT @hjarche: I was in the pilot training business – we focused on performance, not hours of training #lrnchat
09:46:34 pm mellissalast: There's that word 'performance' again. RT @hjarche: I was in the pilot trng biz – we focused on performance, not hours of training #lrnchat
09:46:43 pm DavidAKnopf: @Quinnovator: just was told of client who wants 1 hour per module. < 1 hr per module? Will they suture learners to the chairs? #lrnchat
09:46:45 pm KoreenOlbrish: @Quinnovator but Clark! Can't you design all content to be learned in exactly one hour? ;) #lrnchat
09:46:53 pm kelly_smith01: Wasn't Gluteus-Maximus a character in Gladiator? #lrnchat
09:46:58 pm odguru: RT @Dave_Ferguson: @KoreenOlbrish I've certainly seen lot of gluteus-maximus-based learning. HAHAHA! #lrnchat
09:47:03 pm chnapa: "Brain-based learning:" …Was it the ancient egyptians who thought the stomach was the seat of all knowledge? #lrnchat
09:47:13 pm MariaOD: My iPhone twitters apps have all stopped responding! They need more training asap! #lrnchat
09:47:13 pm Quinnovator: I'm certainly well trained to recite back what is spewed to me. Wonder what it has to do with life? #lrnchat
09:47:22 pm hjarche: @ThomasStone I'd appreciate it if you kept your gluteus-maximus-based learning to yourself #lrnchat
09:47:31 pm billcush: It's all about performance. RT @hjarche: I was in the pilot training business – we focused on performance, not hours of training #lrnchat
09:47:50 pm odguru: The colon is known to be the "second brain"… #lrnchat
09:47:53 pm jaycross: RT @chnapa: "Brain-based learning:" …Was it egyptians who thought the stomach was the seat of all knowledge? Some say the heart #lrnchat
09:48:03 pm Dave_Ferguson: @hjarche Most of the time, you only get 50% of the G-M based learning. #lrnchat
09:48:04 pm sahana2802: Just got back from office + dinner and missed #lrnchat…
09:48:06 pm marciamarcia: Did someone say THE purpose of learning is action? Tripe. Learning is for change. No action required. Can be change of thought. #lrnchat
09:48:13 pm JaneBozarth: RT @Quinnovator I'm certainly well trained to recite back what is spewed to me. Wonder what it has to do with life? #lrnchat
09:48:18 pm Quinnovator: 'spray and pray' & 'show up and throw up': neither equals learning! #lrnchat
09:48:32 pm jaycross: RT @odguru: The colon is known to be the "second brain"… WHY?
#lrnchat
09:48:33 pm sahana2802: RT @marciamarcia: Did someone say THE purpose of learning is action? Tripe. Learning is for change. No action required. Can be change of thought. #lrnchat
09:48:33 pm mellissalast: @KoreenOlbrish @Quinnovator Yes, and every job aid is exactly 1 page in length. #lrnchat
09:48:38 pm SuzNet: @chnapa yes, don't think the ancient Greeks thought the brain had much to do with learning either #lrnchat
09:48:41 pm dtitle: Doesn't matter what anatomical part student learns with; he won't learn it at all if he senses it does not come from your heart #lrnchat
09:49:05 pm kristineshaheen: RT @marciamarcia: THE purpose of learning is action? Tripe. Learning is for change. No action required. Can be change of thought. #lrnchat
09:49:12 pm JaneBozarth: RT @marciamarcia THE purpose of learning is action? Tripe. Learning is for change. No action required. Can be change of thought. #lrnchat
09:49:16 pm kellygarber: @Quinnovator probably could have left it with "off" …serious backchannel draft over here! #lrnchat
09:49:43 pm mellissalast: No, but great performance objectives. RT @Quinnovator: 'spray and pray' & 'show up and throw up': neither equals learning! #lrnchat
09:49:44 pm Quinnovator: @marciamarcia how know there's change in thought, if no change in behavior (he says, baiting and ducking) #lrnchat
09:49:48 pm Dave_Ferguson: DC-based Dave, learning / performance improvement, wry anecdotes, signing off. Night, all (adjust for your time zone). #lrnchat
09:49:55 pm Quinnovator: RT @mellissalast: @KoreenOlbrish @Quinnovator Yes, and every job aid is exactly 1 page in length. #lrnchat < LOL
09:49:58 pm SueSchnorr: @Quinnovator reminds me of the JFK controller, who trained his kids to read the communications, but learned an important lesson.. #lrnchat
09:49:59 pm KoreenOlbrish: RT @marciamarcia: THE purpose of learning is action? Tripe. Learning is for change. No action required. Can be change of thought. #lrnchat
09:50:10 pm oxala75: i'm trying to explain to someone what #lrnchat is, and they looked over my shoulder to read "gluteus maximus-based learning"
09:50:24 pm jaycross: RT @JaneBozarth: RT @marciamarcia Thought without change is wasted effort (I think… must ponder that). #lrnchat
09:50:33 pm JaneBozarth: And now, shall we, ponder the concept of "performance" objectives? #lrnchat
09:50:40 pm DavidAKnopf: @Quinnovator Pretty sure you can detect that with a well crafted assessment. ;) #lrnchat
09:50:46 pm Quinnovator: @Dave_Ferguson off so soon? Always a pleasure. Stay well #lrnchat
09:50:49 pm KoreenOlbrish: @Dave_Ferguson G'night Dave. I owe you a non-Twitter based conversation :) #lrnchat
09:50:53 pm MariaOD: RT @jaycross RT @odguru: The colon is known to be the "second brain"… WHY?
#lrnchat <<humm thought they were lower
09:51:04 pm odguru: @jaycross In fetal dev initial *brain cells* split. half go to the brain, the rest r beginnings of the colon.http://tiny.cc/Eoud2 #lrnchat
09:51:14 pm technostats: RT @marciamarcia: Learning is an inside out. Training is outside in. #lrnchat
09:51:16 pm lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links & requests (or shameless plugs) welcome, too. #lrnchat
09:51:28 pm kellygarber: @JaneBozarth oh you are trying to stir the pot tonight! :) #lrnchat
09:51:29 pm allonsdanser: RT @JaneBozarth: And now, shall we, ponder the concept of "performance" objectives? #lrnchat
09:51:37 pm KoreenOlbrish: @JaneBozarth oh yes! Why do we state learning objectives but not performance objectives? #lrnchat
09:51:46 pm jaycross: Whoops… I meant "learning without change" is wasted effort. (Not sure) #lrnchat
09:51:51 pm cellodav: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links & requests (or shameless plugs) welcome, too. #lrnchat
09:51:52 pm chrisstjohn: Night all. Reminder, June 1-2-3 http://bit.ly/2pac2R has opened for registration. #lrnchat
09:51:55 pm mellissalast: No, I just wanted one more shot. RT @JaneBozarth: And now, shall we, ponder the concept of "performance" objectives? #lrnchat
09:52:00 pm rosamariatorres: #lrnchat ??? So, training for what? RT @JaneBozarth @rosamariatorres learning not necessarily expected outcome of training
09:52:07 pm kasey428: @Dave_Ferguson Bye, Dave. I want to read more of the your Dad's stories! #lrnchat
09:52:08 pm MariaOD: Is listening learning? Depends? #lrnchat
09:52:12 pm Quinnovator: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links & requests (or shameless plugs) welcome, too. #lrnchat
09:52:14 pm ronindotca: @Quinnovator but Clark! Can't u design all content 2 B learned in exactly 1 hr? ;) #lrnchat /RT@KoreenOlbrish OF COURSE!! & for all contexts
09:52:22 pm kellygarber: RT @lrnchat: Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself. Links & requests (or shameless plugs) welcome, too. < saved by the bell!!! #lrnchat
09:52:31 pm ThomasStone: As I rec'd earlier… on use of words in L&D field, be sure to read Jay Cross' recent CLO mag column: http://bit.ly/5bM1RV #lrnchat
09:52:37 pm Quinnovator: wow, that time again? What a hoot of a #lrnchat, as always
09:52:38 pm jwillensky: Jason Willensky, Learning/Training/Performance Consultant, Phoenix, AZ. Ciao! #lrnchat
09:52:43 pm Quinnovator: RT @chrisstjohn: Night all. Reminder, June 1-2-3 http://bit.ly/2pac2R has opened for registration. #lrnchat
09:52:47 pm mrch0mp3rs: @KoreenOlbrish If orgs care so much about performance, why don't they measure actual performance instead of the surface activities? #lrnchat
09:52:52 pm oxala75: Qwrap) craig wiggins, elearning jockey. Looking into gluteus maximus-based learning (how smart is Kim Kardashian?) #lrnchat
09:53:00 pm jaycross: Jay, going to continue writing snake-oil screed. #lrnchat
09:53:06 pm sahana2802: Just in time to say bye to everyone on #lrnchat. Sahana, ID from Mumbai, India flying back to India on Saturday…Next session from India…
09:53:13 pm BertBates: I've been forced to create 1000's of Java multiple-guess q's… I avoid "A" as the answer ; ) #lrnchat
09:53:19 pm Quinnovator: @oxala75 see, that's learning! #lrnchat
09:53:26 pm KoreenOlbrish: oh damn…performance discussion for another day? the time's just a-flyin' by tonight! #lrnchat
09:53:32 pm reward75: @KoreenOlbrish in performance mgmt they have performance objectives but not learning is involved #lrnchat
09:53:33 pm DavidAKnopf: Cheers, everyone. Hope you satisfy all your learning & performance objectives this week! #lrnchat
09:53:34 pm MariaOD: Thanks #lrnchat! I'm learning tonight!
09:53:38 pm JaneBozarth: @sahana2802 Hi Sahana! Bye Sahana! Safe travels! #lrnchat
09:53:39 pm jaycross: RT @ThomasStone: on use of words in L&D field, be sure to read Jay Cross recent CLO mag column: http://bit.ly/5bM1RV Thanks, Tom #lrnchat
09:53:41 pm KoreenOlbrish: @mrch0mp3rs well, they do measure sales :) #lrnchat
09:53:50 pm SuzNet: Hopefully listening leads to learning. or vice versa RT @MariaOD: Is listening learning? Depends? #lrnchat
09:53:55 pm mpetersell: Mike from Connecticut; The latest from Many Ways to Learn: http://tinyurl.com/yj9rr4m Thanks for keeping me sane with this insanity #lrnchat
09:54:00 pm azmichelle: Qwrap) Michelle the librarian saying good night and thanks for the great discussion! #lrnchat
09:54:08 pm ThomasStone: Good night all, Tom Stone from Element K in Rochester, NY. #lrnchat
09:54:14 pm mrch0mp3rs: @KoreenOlbrish touché #lrnchat :)
09:54:15 pm ADDIE_ID: ADDIE, undead. Proof that even the undead can spell "neologism" correctly. #lrnchat
09:54:18 pm cellodav: David M clean car & training my brain (whichever of them) to learn in Sudbury ON cellodav.wordpress.com #lrnchat
09:54:22 pm kelly_smith01: Kelly Smith, ISD Consultant (between gigs) keeping up with learning via #lrnchat #lrnchat
09:54:22 pm kasey428: Kay Wood, exhausted learning (eh?) consultant. test writer and ISD, DC metro, signing off. #lrnchat
09:54:25 pm Quinnovator: @kristineshaheen think it's about misconceptions of what's useful, not real understanding (consumer audience, not internal) #lrnchat
09:54:34 pm kellygarber: Qwrap) freelance ISD, pilot in learning, night all! #lrnchat
09:54:50 pm SueSchnorr: Good night, learning. Good night, training. Good night, moon! I'm hanging with my 4 year old too much! Have a good week all! #lrnchat
09:55:01 pm jaycross: Can the rest of you feel the community bonds being formed here? See you next week, compadres. #lrnchat
09:55:07 pm chnapa: Cheryl Hall developing online/mobile wine education in the beautiful Napa Valley; http://bit.ly/c8GNgm; its free #lrnchat
09:55:16 pm niccinh: Qwrap) Less sure how to describe myself after all this. So here's a shameless plug for my fav non-profit: http://readglobal.org/ #lrnchat
09:55:22 pm ronindotca: Cameron Campbell, Canuckistanian in Kiwiland, edugeek, tired traveller, lurker extraorinaire joining u from tomorrow. #lrnchat
09:55:30 pm Quinnovator: g'nite all you great #lrnchat folks. Have a great evening and hope to see you next week!
09:55:41 pm kelly_smith01: Brown bear, Brown bear what do you see? #lrnchat
09:55:42 pm hjarche: Good night, John Boy #lrnchat
09:55:47 pm reward75: Regina Ward, NYC, graduation in 2 months, YAY!! #lrnchat
09:55:50 pm higgteach: educator from Ontario, twitter explorer…thanks for a great first twitter conversation! #lrnchat
09:55:54 pm billcush: qwrap) Bill from Charlotte, NC…helping people help customers. #lrnchat
09:55:56 pm JaneBozarth: Rock on, #lrnchatters. Jane, RDU, gubmint worker, ID learning writing person. Learnin' more about community. #lrnchat
09:55:58 pm higgteach: Night all. #lrnchat
09:56:07 pm rosamariatorres: #lrnchat Rosa Maria Torres. Ecuador.Researcher. International adviser education & learning RT @lrnchat Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself
09:56:14 pm Quinnovator: Clark Quinn, troublemaker, learning experience design evangelist, author, consultant, speaker, #lrnchat
09:56:18 pm minutebio: Jeff, e-Learning Designer/Developer and lately classroom agitator. #lrnchat
09:56:18 pm JaneBozarth: RT @hjarche Good night, John Boy #lrnchat
09:56:30 pm wlonline: Thanks everyone! #lrnchat
09:56:35 pm higgteach: @niccinh I hear that! #lrnchat
09:56:39 pm Quinnovator: RT @jaycross: Can the rest of you feel the community bonds being formed here? See you next week, compadres. #lrnchat < yep
09:56:49 pm KoreenOlbrish: Koreen Olbrish, eastern Keystone State, getting set for a bunch of learning at #gdc next week. Getting my gamer geek on! #lrnchat
09:56:51 pm MariaOD: @2slappy lmao u are making me soooo ornery! #lrnchat
09:56:57 pm pookie_10920: V Dority. ISD student. I learned alot about training. Night. #lrnchat
09:57:02 pm anouka: RT @rosamariatorres: #lrnchat Rosa Maria Torres. Ecuador.Researcher. International adviser education & learning RT @lrnchat Qwrap) Time to reintroduce yourself
09:57:14 pm SuzNet: Suzanne from Rochester NY, enjoyed learning with and from you all #lrnchat
09:57:18 pm Quinnovator: RT @reward75: Regina Ward, NYC, graduation in 2 months, YAY!! < there IS no graduation from #lrnchat (good wishes!)
09:57:24 pm wlonline: RT @higgteach: educator from Ontario, twitter explorer…thanks for a great first twitter conversation! #lrnchat
09:57:42 pm marciamarcia: @Quinnovator Hmm. You don't know when your thoughts change, aye? #lrnchat
09:57:47 pm allonsdanser: RT @oxala75: Qwrap) craig wiggins, elearning jockey. Looking into gluteus maximus-based learning (how smart is Kim Kardashian?) #lrnchat Heh
09:57:55 pm MariaOD: RT @2slappy @MariaOD I love learning from your #lrnchat tweets! <<<JOIN US!
09:57:56 pm JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator @regina75 Graduation is for quitters. #lrnchat
09:58:06 pm SuzNet: @chnapa I'll drink to that! looking forward to checking out your site. #lrnchat
09:58:29 pm SueSchnorr: We had a good showing from Rochester, TomStone, SuzNet….. anyone else? #lrnchat
09:58:38 pm mellissalast: Evening #lrnchat + drinking game much better than 11:30AM EST #lrnchat + coffee. It's just not the same. ;-)
09:59:00 pm BertBates: tech author, cognitator #lrnchat
09:59:04 pm reward75: RT @Quinnovator: RT @reward75: Regina Ward, graduation in 2 months < there IS no graduation from #lrnchat <merit pay at least? #lrnchat
09:59:22 pm rosamariatorres: #lrnchat Thanks for the chat. Greetings to all from Buenos Aires :)
09:59:23 pm cellodav: RT @JaneBozarth: @Quinnovator @regina75 Graduation is for quitters. #lrnchat
09:59:32 pm lrnchat: Thank you for joining us on #lrnchat. Pls invite others next week. If you blog about this, let us know! http://lrnchat.com
09:59:38 pm odguru: Nite all. Thanks -I appreciate the equality of the playing field in this community. Everyone can learn here (&drink if ya got'em) #lrnchat
10:00:10 pm cammybean: ID Live on EdTechTalk Friday at noon eastern — with @kkapp talking about instructional design. #lrnchat
10:00:19 pm kristineshaheen: Truuuue story. RT @mellissalast: #lrnchat + drinking game much better than 11:30AM #lrnchat + coffee. Its just not the same. ;-) #lrnchat
10:01:01 pm MariaOD: Thanks! @hblowers yes! What we learn with pleasure we never forget! #lrnchat
10:01:08 pm marciamarcia: Marcia Conner, #lrnchat founder, finishing book on learning via social media, great to see ppl here see training & learning are diff. Night.
10:01:09 pm cammybean: Sorry I missed #lrnchat tonight — looks like fun as always…

One Response to “Transcript 4-March 2010 (late)”

  1. Learning: traditional or independent? Says:

    […] Training has replaced learning as the term of choice. (For more on that issue, see transcript of tonight’s #lrnchat.) […]

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